Alex Jones Show - 20130120_Sun_Alex

00:00:01.000 From the front lines of the Information War, it's Alex Jones.

00:00:10.000 It's Sunday, the 20th day of January, 2013.

00:00:12.000 There's an important report filed by Melissa Melton.

00:00:20.000 Melissa Melton reporting for InfoWars Nightly News.

00:00:23.000 Last week, Alex Jones appeared on the Pierce Morgan Show on CNN to discuss his views on gun control.

00:00:30.000 The following night, Pierce decided to host a panel regarding Alex's appearance.

00:00:34.000 And he had on Daily Beast sports columnist Buzz Bissinger, Huffington Post Abby Huntsman, and lawyer Gloria Allred.

00:00:42.000 And Mr. Bissinger made what can only be described as a threat against Alex's life.

00:00:46.000 Let's take a look at this clip. 0.99

00:00:47.000 It is pathetic, it is ridiculous that you are allowed, I don't care what the justification is, that you are allowed in this country to own a semi-automatic weapon, much less a handgun. 0.99

00:00:59.000 But what do you need a semi-automatic weapon for? 0.99

00:01:02.000 The only reason I think you need it is, Pierce, challenge Alex Jones to a boxing match, show up with a semi-automatic that you got legally, and pop him!

00:01:11.000 I'd love to see that!

00:01:12.000 In uniform!

00:01:15.000 I'll borrow my brother's uniform.

00:01:16.000 Now, as you saw in that clip, Bissinger tells Morgan the only reason he would need a semi-automatic gun is to, quote, pop Alex Jones, to which they all laugh.

00:01:27.000 And Abby Huntsman actually says, I'd love to see that.

00:01:30.000 And Morgan even says he would borrow his brother's uniform.

00:01:33.000 And this isn't the only time during that television show that a threat was made on Alex.

00:01:38.000 Earlier in the show, one of Pierre's guests also made the comment that he hoped Alex's children would not be killed.

00:01:44.000 I don't want Alex Jones to get the phone call at 3 o'clock in the morning that one of his children have been shot and killed by somebody who shouldn't have a handgun or a rifle.

00:01:54.000 This kind of talk from supposedly anti-gun activists is abhorrent.

00:01:58.000 They're making a threat on national television to shoot and possibly murder someone.

00:02:03.000 And it's no joke either.

00:02:04.000 As you'll see in this next clip, Private investigator Doug Hagman came on the Alex Jones Show just a few weeks ago and talked about how he has an inside source in the Department of Homeland Security and that the DHS is actually keeping a list of pro-gun activists and political activists who will be taken out.

00:02:22.000 Anyone reporting on journalism, speaking out against government policies, anyone who protests anything that is antithetical to this regime, will be shut up and censored, if you will.

00:02:35.000 And not only that, but according to my source, put on a list, because when the money supply, or when the economy collapses, we can no longer buy anything, and the rides break out.

00:02:47.000 The very first people to go, according to my source, the very first people to be rounded up, the very first targets, if you will, on the radar of this regime are the people that are speaking the truth about what's taking place.

00:03:00.000 On Hagman's site, he relayed in detail that there are lists of political dissidents maintained by DHS and vocal opponents of the politics of the global elite, the bankers, and the opponents of anything standing in their way.

00:03:11.000 Well, they are on the top of the list to be, quote, handled.

00:03:15.000 In the days following that broadcast, news broke that Keith Ratliff, a man behind FPS Russia, a gun show on YouTube that made the channel one of the top ten most popular on the entire site, was tied to a chair and shot execution-style in the back of the head.

00:03:30.000 Then, John Noveske of Noveske Rifleworks, a gun manufacturer known for his AR-15s, was mysteriously killed in a car crash just days after he posted a list on Facebook linking mass shootings and horrible acts of murder and suicide to anti-psychotic medications.

00:03:46.000 In the wake of these threats against Alex on the Pierce Morgan Show, it would seem Twitter fans picked up Pierce's sentiment and also threatened to shoot Alex.

00:03:55.000 One Twitterer wrote, I hope Alex Jones gets taken by terrorists who shoot his arms and legs off starting at the fingers and toes and work their way up.

00:04:03.000 Another, for the first time I see a good reason for guns in the USA. 1.00

00:04:08.000 Alex Jones, someone please shoot this Muppet. 1.00

00:04:11.000 I wish somebody would shoot this Alex Jones guy in the face. 1.00

00:04:14.000 And then another responded, please and thank you. 0.94

00:04:17.000 As the system ratchets up this war on our Second Amendment rights, we are seeing some unprecedented attacks against pro-gun activists and political activists who are just trying to fight for our freedom.

00:04:28.000 Are we going to see another false flag next?

00:04:30.000 Are we going to see another mass shooting, another Oklahoma City, another systematic takeout of a group like we did in Waco?

00:04:36.000 Well, Doug Hagman left us with this chilling warning.

00:04:39.000 By the way, Alex, according to my DHS source, expect more.

00:04:43.000 Expect at least one more.

00:04:45.000 One more incident to really solidify in the minds of people that these big bad assault rifles, that misnomer to be sure, are not to be in the hands of the American people.

00:04:57.000 For InfoWars Nightly News, I'm Melissa Melton.

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00:06:00.000 All the leaves are brown.

00:06:02.000 All the leaves are brown.

00:06:04.000 And the sky is gray.

00:06:07.000 And the sky is gray.

00:06:09.000 Well, it's our first visit with Ron Paul of 2003.

00:06:14.000 He is now the former Congressman.

00:06:18.000 The first time I interviewed him, he was running for Congress again, I guess back in 95, 96.

00:06:25.000 And he'd been in Congress once before as a Libertarian, and of course went back as a Republican.

00:06:30.000 And he has been our greatest defender of liberty.

00:06:32.000 Worldwide loved and admired.

00:06:34.000 He's got big announcements coming up soon.

00:06:36.000 I've heard the rumors and I'll see if he'll give us any hint.

00:06:39.000 But he joins us obviously to talk about the fiscal cliff that he said we've already gone over a long time ago.

00:06:45.000 What's happening with that?

00:06:46.000 The Sandy Hook shooting.

00:06:48.000 The announcements of the NSA openly spying on us.

00:06:51.000 It's like everything Ron Paul talked about 15 years ago and got called a conspiracy theorist.

00:06:55.000 Good, good to be with you.

00:06:56.000 Yep, very good.

00:06:57.000 Family got here.

00:06:58.000 We had a lot of fun and didn't solve any world problems.

00:07:02.000 Wow, you heard what I threw out there, sir.

00:07:03.000 Good.

00:07:04.000 Did you have a good Christmas?

00:07:04.000 Good to be with you.

00:07:06.000 Yep.

00:07:06.000 Very good.

00:07:07.000 Family got here.

00:07:08.000 We had a lot of fun and didn't solve any world problems.

00:07:12.000 I wish I need to learn how to unplug as well.

00:07:14.000 Wow.

00:07:15.000 You heard what I threw out there, sir.

00:07:17.000 Where would you like to start first?

00:07:18.000 Well, the things that I've talked about is mostly, well, the general deterioration of our individual freedoms and our liberties and our markets.

00:07:27.000 But I think the big thing as I wound down my career dealt with, you know, financial and the economy.

00:07:35.000 And I think both major parties and most members of Congress are in total denial as to what the real problem is, because they think it's just a budget.

00:07:45.000 You know, well, if we change this number, raise taxes, cut spending, you know, pretend to cut spending, we'll solve the problem.

00:07:53.000 And I think it's much bigger than that.

00:07:54.000 I think, first off, the country is bankrupt.

00:07:56.000 We're insolvent.

00:07:57.000 We can't pay the bills, and they won't admit it.

00:08:00.000 I mean, we have these obligations of $220 trillion in national debt of $16 trillion.

00:08:06.000 We're the biggest born debtor nation ever.

00:08:09.000 And that is ignored.

00:08:12.000 And they talk about, you know, what they're going to do with tinkering with the tax code.

00:08:20.000 And they talk about cuts, which aren't cuts.

00:08:23.000 It's just all deceit and trying to fool the people into believing that they can tinker with a budget.

00:08:31.000 But I think the problem is, is government is too big, they don't follow the Constitution, they don't know what the rule of government ought to be in a free society, and they don't admit we're bankrupt.

00:08:42.000 And oftentimes I've used this saying that, are we going to go over the cliff?

00:08:47.000 Well, in many ways, we're over the cliff in that we're not going to retrace ourselves.

00:08:51.000 If you're over a cliff, you just don't have a chance to climb back up.

00:08:54.000 And we really don't.

00:08:55.000 We're not going to have enough people in Congress in the next go-around, or do we have them now?

00:09:00.000 We have better people now, and we're going to have some people speaking for us.

00:09:04.000 But we can't go back and all of a sudden balance our budget, remove the regulations, and protect our liberties.

00:09:12.000 All we have to do is listen to our president, what his plans are.

00:09:15.000 But the Republicans aren't doing a whole lot more because we're facing a situation where it took a hundred years for our governments and our schools to indoctrinate our people to accepting the idea that the role of government ought to be to take care of us and provide perfect safety and make sure nobody falls through the net and take care of people and the whole world.

00:09:43.000 And I think we have to address the subject, what should the role of government be, The founders made an attempt at it.

00:09:49.000 They wrote a constitution.

00:09:50.000 We don't obey it.

00:09:51.000 And to me, if we would accept the notion that the role of government is to protect our freedoms, provide some national defense for us, provide a sound currency, and protect our liberties.

00:10:03.000 There would be no warfare state and there would be no welfare state.

00:10:07.000 And nobody wants to address that.

00:10:09.000 You know, in all this talk, neither Republicans or Democrats would even suggest about cutting the militarism.

00:10:18.000 The only talk was, should we increase the military expenditures by 18% or 20%.

00:10:22.000 The people who wanted 18% were were castigated for slashing national defense and said they were, you know, unpatriotic.

00:10:32.000 So that is where the mess is.

00:10:34.000 I see the mess that we're in, a problem of education, a consequence of 100 years of control of many generations indoctrinating them into bad economic policy and bad foreign policy.

00:10:46.000 Congressman, you've talked about globalism, the Bilderberg Group, people like that, but it's now in the Financial Times of London It's in hundreds of papers, but we can probably pull some up and put them on screen, where they announce global government by the six megabanks.

00:11:00.000 And I listened to Bloomberg Financial on XM, and they brag that they've conquered Europe with debt, they've signed the Europeans onto derivatives, they've got them dependent on socialism, but most of the debt is actually the central bank's debt that are really private.

00:11:15.000 And now I see them wrecking us, Congressman, on purpose to make us debt slaves while also making us dependent.

00:11:23.000 I mean, surely they know the facts.

00:11:25.000 Even the Congressional Budget Office, as you know, three or four years ago said we were bankrupt.

00:11:29.000 All these other government economists have admitted this.

00:11:31.000 So you're not just somebody who studied economics, you're also a medical doctor.

00:11:36.000 It's kind of like a patient that's got cancer all over their body.

00:11:39.000 This is already a done deal.

00:11:42.000 What's your take on my statement that we've been maneuvered into rack and ruin by loan sharks? 0.95

00:11:48.000 I mean, I think it's important to not just say they're a bunch of buffoons in D.C. 0.90

00:11:52.000 Goldman Sachs, J.P.

00:11:53.000 Morgan and others, in my research, are just mafia organizations that want us as basically debt slaves on a sharecropping plantation.

00:12:03.000 I think it's partially true, but it also involves indoctrination through education.

00:12:10.000 It's just not 10 or 15 people who get together and all of a sudden they can change people's minds.

00:12:15.000 People endorse Keynesianism.

00:12:16.000 They endorse the Federal Reserve.

00:12:18.000 They endorse us being the police of the world and we should have these wars in the Middle East. 1.00

00:12:22.000 So they have been indoctrinated.

00:12:25.000 And yes, there are a few who are going to benefit.

00:12:27.000 You know, I can't read into their minds.

00:12:30.000 I don't know.

00:12:30.000 They sit back and say, you know what, we're going to bankrupt the country and cause causes chaos.

00:12:34.000 I think they try to get away with manipulating and maneuvering and benefiting themselves both with power and money.

00:12:40.000 And philosophically, it doesn't work out.

00:12:43.000 So they have to react.

00:12:45.000 So they take advantage of it.

00:12:46.000 It's sort of like taking advantage.

00:12:48.000 Don't let a major crisis go to waste.

00:12:51.000 I mean, they create the problems.

00:12:52.000 They think they're going to get away with it.

00:12:55.000 And then when the crisis hits, they make use of it.

00:12:57.000 And they say, well, we have to do.

00:13:00.000 They're motivated by money and power, and they have to have control.

00:13:03.000 Sure.

00:13:04.000 I'm talking about they're smart enough to on a daily basis, say, well, we're going to do A and B is going to be I think they're mostly unintended consequences that occur and they react.

00:13:16.000 I'd like to get people to react differently.

00:13:18.000 I agree with you that at the mid-level and even the upper levels, obviously, it's just a corrupt system people have been born into now, but I'm talking about the 112-point plan that got leaked out of the World Bank when Joseph Stiklitz resigned the Nobel Prize winner in economics in 2002.

00:13:35.000 It talked about how they manipulated third-world countries into bankruptcy to take control, and it discussed doing it to the West. 0.97

00:13:41.000 So, at Bilderberg, from our sources, but also at Davos, I've got Herman Von Ruppe, head of the EU, saying we're going to use the financial crisis to bring in the new world order.

00:13:53.000 That may be, and I don't know every individual who makes these plans, but I do know that I meet a lot of people who believe.

00:14:01.000 I mean, you take a guy like Bernanke.

00:14:03.000 I think Bernanke actually believes that.

00:14:05.000 You know, I think he really believes that he's been sent here by the Creator to make sure we never have a Great Depression before because they didn't print the money fast enough.

00:14:16.000 I don't think he sits and says, and goes much further than this, because he has invested a lifetime into proving this ideology.

00:14:26.000 I think he's wrong.

00:14:27.000 He's determined to prove he's right.

00:14:29.000 He creates trillions and trillions of dollars.

00:14:32.000 And then these people that you're talking about, they know what's going on, and they line up, and they get involved, and they learn how to manipulate the system for political reasons.

00:14:41.000 So we know that our president has an agenda, and it's very, very clear.

00:14:47.000 So he works his agenda with the system that exists.

00:14:50.000 I agree with you.

00:14:51.000 There's different factions who only care about themselves and together the perfect storm.

00:14:56.000 But you're saying he thinks he's right, you think you're right.

00:14:58.000 Sir, I watched a speech that's in our film Matrix of Evil you gave in 2003 at McKinney-Ruff's right outside Austin, here in South Austin, and you laid out everything that was going to happen.

00:15:09.000 How they'd use the drones here, how they'd have the NSA spy on us, how they would use the Patriot Act on the citizens, how when they collapse things they would use that to take full control.

00:15:19.000 How the derivatives bubble would work.

00:15:20.000 It's like you're a prophet, but you're not.

00:15:22.000 You were in there in the committees.

00:15:23.000 You've studied history.

00:15:24.000 You know what was going to happen.

00:15:25.000 You said the stimulus wouldn't work.

00:15:28.000 You said all these things wouldn't work.

00:15:30.000 You said that the Republicans would vote to raise taxes.

00:15:34.000 $1 of cuts for every 41 in spending increases.

00:15:37.000 77% of Americans with tax increases on payroll.

00:15:40.000 I mean, it's like the lying and... What's happened is we've been eased into this tyranny, and so now you're here saying, well, we'll see who's gonna be proven right.

00:15:49.000 You've been proven right, Congressman!

00:15:51.000 Toot your own horn! 1.00

00:15:54.000 We'll be right back with the conclusion of our important interview with Congressman Ron Paul.

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00:20:02.000 Coast to Coast, direct from Austin.

00:20:05.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

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00:20:22.000 I've tried to be nice to him, but he says he's now the leader of the libertarian movement.

00:20:26.000 Yes, I saw that.

00:20:27.000 I'll have to check him out.

00:20:28.000 I wonder what he believes in.

00:20:30.000 Yeah, because he told me that your supporters four years ago were going to blow us up with bombs and that we did Oklahoma City.

00:20:35.000 And then he keeps, you know, saying that we shouldn't get in the government's face.

00:20:38.000 I mean, my only deal with Glenn Beck is he says I'm dangerous and basically shouldn't be on the air.

00:20:43.000 Piers Morgan basically says that as well.

00:20:45.000 And then now he tells me that he's my leader.

00:20:48.000 And that he's now going to become Ron Paul and Alex Jones, I guess, mixed.

00:20:51.000 Do you have any comments on that?

00:20:52.000 Not too much, because I don't know exactly what he's talking about.

00:20:56.000 All I can do is speak for myself on what I believe in and what I'm trying to do, and I've been pretty much upfront on, you know, what the principles are and in which direction we should go and effort.

00:21:09.000 I think I do one thing differently than others, and that is I try to stick to, you know, ideas rather than personalities.

00:21:18.000 And, of course, we've already mentioned the President, and I mentioned George Bush.

00:21:22.000 But over the years, I basically don't attack the individuals.

00:21:25.000 I don't generally attack Bernanke.

00:21:27.000 Sure, but you did call him a demagogue when he said that your supporters wanted to blow up buildings.

00:21:32.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

00:21:33.000 But generally speaking, I don't do the personality thing.

00:21:37.000 As a matter of fact, if you do the personality thing, you get a lot more attention, but I don't want it to distract.

00:21:44.000 People will try to entice me to say, what should we do with Bernanke?

00:21:49.000 How should we punish him?

00:21:51.000 Remember what our governor said that we should do with it.

00:21:54.000 I might agree with it.

00:21:56.000 I might even say things along that way, but most of the time I'll go and say it's the system.

00:22:00.000 It's the system of the Federal Reserve.

00:22:02.000 No, no, no.

00:22:03.000 I agree.

00:22:04.000 And that is what I want to concentrate.

00:22:06.000 Some people will concentrate on different things.

00:22:08.000 They'll have different tactics and different viewpoints, and I think that's fine.

00:22:12.000 No, no, listen, I think Glenn Beck does a lot of great work and has gotten better and better.

00:22:16.000 He is just systematically, I don't infight.

00:22:18.000 You'll never hear my show talking about other people that are in the Liberty Movement.

00:22:21.000 He just routinely says, he said I made up the 1.6 billion bullets, even though that's AP Reuters direct federal purchases.

00:22:29.000 You know, I'm making up the police state.

00:22:31.000 I'm making up NSA spying.

00:22:33.000 Your supporters want to blow buildings up. 0.99

00:22:37.000 He is trying to gatekeep, and I'm just warning you that unless you join with Soran, Dr. Paul, he's going to stab you in the back.

00:22:45.000 And I'm only saying that kind of like a chart when you're coming into a bay in a boat.

00:22:49.000 I'm just marking the chart, Dr. Paul, but you're a smart guy.

00:22:52.000 You know that.

00:22:52.000 We've only got about six, seven minutes left in closing.

00:22:55.000 Sandy Hook and now the Feinstein Bill and others to make us physically turn them in, not just go back and re-register with the ATF at their pleasure.

00:23:04.000 Now they want to just open where they decide, law-abiding citizens turning their guns in.

00:23:08.000 What is your take on that?

00:23:09.000 And are you concerned about a purge or persecution of gun owners?

00:23:13.000 Well, I'm concerned about their inconsistency.

00:23:16.000 They want to get rid of guns because somebody used a gun and did some violence.

00:23:19.000 But we all know that more people are getting killed with hammers and fists and knives.

00:23:27.000 So they're not very consistent.

00:23:29.000 They see an opportunity.

00:23:32.000 And they want to get rid of the guns.

00:23:33.000 Some people believe they're dangerous and want to get rid of them, and other people want to get rid of them because they know that guns can resist a government tyranny, and some people like the idea that governments become tyrants and they should run things as long as the government kills children, it's okay, so they want to protect that.

00:23:51.000 You know, all that scandal and outcry, which much of it was justified seeing kids getting killed, it's a horror.

00:24:00.000 But at the same time, how about those people who are saying, okay, this is an excuse to take away the rights of people who use guns to defend their family.

00:24:08.000 How many of them are shouting and screaming about the children that our drones are killing on a daily basis because they're Muslim kids in different color and they're overseas?

00:24:21.000 We can do it by directing drones from this country.

00:24:24.000 That doesn't even count.

00:24:26.000 So that's what their whole goal is, is to distract us from some of the horrors that governments perpetuate and the way they destroy our liberties and they perpetuate the violence.

00:24:37.000 I mean, compared to the violence that governments have perpetuated on the people versus what the people do to each other, there's no contest.

00:24:44.000 Historically, government's the number one killer, as you know.

00:24:46.000 University studies out of Hawaii and others.

00:24:49.000 292 million people killed by 20th century non-military combatants.

00:24:53.000 We have a red alert, sir, that just came out while you were on with us.

00:24:56.000 DrudgeReport.com, Weekly Standard, AP, you name it.

00:25:00.000 Obama...

00:25:01.000 White House threatens executive action to physically confiscate the firearms.

00:25:06.000 Biden has now given a speech, sir.

00:25:09.000 They've got a bunch of state reps and federal reps. 0.99

00:25:11.000 I've literally got over 10 articles.

00:25:13.000 They're all calling for executive orders.

00:25:15.000 And Obama is saying now that he'll do everything in his power, including executive orders.

00:25:21.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we feared.

00:25:23.000 Congressman, constitutionally, that's beyond a constitutional crisis.

00:25:26.000 As a constitutional expert, sir, if he signs an order, ordering we turn in our guns, What does that mean?

00:25:33.000 Well, it should go without saying that he's gone way too far.

00:25:36.000 It also should go without saying that he's acting with the use of illegal violence, and he becomes the violent person to say that if you don't... And this is not new.

00:25:47.000 He's been doing this, you know, in environmental regulations.

00:25:49.000 If Congress moves too slowly, well, I'll write an executive order.

00:25:53.000 But he didn't invent the executive order and the signing orders.

00:25:56.000 You know, I'll ignore this.

00:25:58.000 But it's accelerating and getting dictatorial.

00:26:01.000 What do we do if Obama orders us to turn our guns in?

00:26:06.000 Doesn't that make him a dictator if he just says, I'll do whatever I want?

00:26:08.000 It's certainly a dictatorial move on that.

00:26:12.000 If the American people had been a little better versed, maybe they wouldn't have re-elected him.

00:26:19.000 So, I do not say that he is a dictator like some of the 20th century dictators that killed 290 million people, but these are dictatorial moves.

00:26:28.000 They're very, very dangerous, and people say to me, why are you worried about, you know, the military arresting Americans?

00:26:36.000 Setting the precedent under NDAA.

00:26:38.000 We're almost out of time.

00:26:39.000 Because only one or two people were involved, yeah, but the principles 100%.

00:26:42.000 When you establish your principles.

00:26:44.000 So what he's doing is perpetuating a principle of putting more power into the presidency.

00:26:50.000 And it's very, very dangerous.

00:26:52.000 Setting the precedent under NDAA.

00:26:54.000 We're almost out of time.

00:26:55.000 Sir, will you turn in your semi-autos?

00:26:58.000 Well, I might not even have anything to turn in for that purpose.

00:27:04.000 But I don't think the American people will.

00:27:07.000 I've always assumed that the line in the sand may well be drawn.

00:27:11.000 If the federal agent marches in unannounced and they say, well, give me your gun and give me your gold, I don't think we'll do that calmly.

00:27:23.000 I think the American people will highly resent it and resist.

00:27:27.000 So you think I was right, then, telling Piers Morgan, if they try to confiscate the guns, it will start 1776 Part 2?

00:27:32.000 I don't know whether I put them in the same words, but I think I said something very similar to what you're saying.

00:27:38.000 Well, God bless you, sir.

00:27:39.000 I hope we can get you back again in a month.

00:27:41.000 What are any other websites that are important to plug?

00:27:43.000 Just campaignforliberty.org?

00:27:47.000 We're listing some new things there because we're making some other webpages.

00:27:50.000 I'm going to have a home page.

00:27:54.000 Unfortunately, I didn't have ronpaul.com, so I'm going to have to have ronpaul'shomepage.com.

00:28:00.000 That'll be coming up, but it's not ready yet.

00:28:02.000 Big announcement's coming soon.

00:28:02.000 All right.

00:28:03.000 We'll talk to you and say hi to the family.

00:28:05.000 Thank you.

00:28:05.000 God bless you, sir.

00:28:06.000 Great to talk to that man during this dark time.

00:28:08.000 I told you executive orders were coming.

00:28:10.000 They're getting us ready to see if we'll take it.

00:28:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this could be it.

00:28:18.000 Well, that concludes my interview with Congressman Ron Paul last week.

00:28:21.000 Just incredibly important information, where he agrees with me that most Americans' line in the sand is the Second Amendment.

00:28:28.000 It's how our country was founded.

00:28:30.000 And this is nothing but pure tyranny we're witnessing right now.

00:28:33.000 So I pray we can fix this peacefully through the courts, through the states, and through the Congress.

00:28:38.000 And a lot of people are standing up against this tyranny.

00:28:41.000 Including our next interview.

00:28:44.000 Former state rep and, of course, Luby's Massacre survivor and mother and all-around just amazing patriot, Susanna Hupp.

00:28:53.000 I talked to her and here are some excerpts of this incredibly important interview.

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00:33:28.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:33:36.000 Representative Susanna Grasha-Hupp, former representative.

00:33:40.000 She's a survivor of the Luby's Massacre.

00:33:42.000 Some of her family was killed.

00:33:44.000 She famously testified before Congress to Chuckie Schumer that, hey, our guns aren't for duck hunting.

00:33:51.000 The full testimony is up at InfoWars.com right now.

00:33:54.000 We just reposted it up there.

00:33:56.000 She said it's to protect us from you guys up there.

00:34:00.000 And I wanted to get her on the air because she was instrumental nationwide testifying before legislatures everywhere, not just the Texas legislature that she later chaired committees on, to get concealed carry in.

00:34:12.000 And we've seen 25, 30 percent or more reductions in every state that's done it.

00:34:16.000 So she'll be joining us to the bottom of the hour here in just a moment.

00:34:20.000 Here is just a short excerpt of her testimony before Congress.

00:34:26.000 The Second Amendment is not about duck hunting.

00:34:29.000 And I know I'm not going to make very many friends saying this, but it's about all rights, all of our rights, to be able to protect ourselves from all of you guys up there.

00:34:42.000 Man, that was back in the mid-1990s, and here we are in 2013.

00:34:48.000 Great way to kick off the new year with a champion of liberty.

00:34:52.000 I've got to say, if any one person got concealed carry in, you can say what you want about it turning a right into a privilege.

00:34:59.000 The point is, is that it put guns on the street in law-abiding citizens' hands, and the criminals are keeping their heads down.

00:35:06.000 Violent crime down over 20% nationwide on average since then.

00:35:10.000 We've shown the new FBI statistics.

00:35:12.000 Except in areas where they've taken the guns, crime is up.

00:35:15.000 Former representative, talk show host on 590 AM, you name it.

00:35:18.000 Best-selling author.

00:35:21.000 Mrs. Hupp, good to have you on with us.

00:35:22.000 Hey! 0.99

00:35:23.000 Happy New Year to you, Alex.

00:35:25.000 Well, I am excited.

00:35:27.000 What's your take on everything that's happening and the open calls now and the Feinstein bill to physically make you turn guns in?

00:35:35.000 It's a scary thing, isn't it?

00:35:37.000 You know, I've talked to a lot of friends of mine who We all kind of talk big, you know, you hear the from my cold dead fingers comments.

00:35:47.000 But the truth of the matter is, if a bunch of jackbooted thugs show up at my door and put a gun to my child's head and says, turn over all your guns or else, I'm probably going to turn over my guns.

00:36:02.000 You know, so I think it's really important and I think this is why so often revolutions are mostly about young people and young people without extended families.

00:36:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:16.000 It's a scary world right now.

00:36:19.000 It certainly is, but there's 160 plus million gun owners. 0.76

00:36:23.000 If 1% fight back, that's 1.5 million soldiers.

00:36:27.000 I agree, most people are going to turn to men, at least in the first wave.

00:36:31.000 But the tyranny that follows is going to result in a civil war. 0.94

00:36:35.000 And have you noticed all the branding of Obama as the new Lincoln and how he's going to kick the butt of the states? 0.94

00:36:40.000 It's pretty creepy. 0.97

00:36:42.000 It is.

00:36:42.000 It's very frightening.

00:36:43.000 And, you know, when I talk about people turning in their guns, I think there are an awful lot of people that are going out of their way to purchase guns that don't have a track record, you know, that can't be traced to them.

00:36:55.000 And those guns are going to be hidden and buried all over the place.

00:36:59.000 And, you know, we might be some of those people.

00:37:03.000 Alex, you and I are going to be the first doors that they knock on.

00:37:08.000 You're right.

00:37:09.000 They're going to try to make examples of people.

00:37:11.000 Why do you think, for listeners that just joined us, we have the clip, Dianne Feinstein and others are saying, Mr. and Mrs. America, get ready to turn your guns in.

00:37:22.000 Why do I think she's doing that?

00:37:23.000 I think because she's absolutely clear that she has the backing of the President and she now has, I would say, 70% of the media firmly behind her.

00:37:36.000 You know, I was actually sitting, getting a manicure a few days ago, and there was a lady kind of across from me, somebody I didn't know at all, and she got to talking about the guns and the shooting in Connecticut, and she turned to me and said, well, I just think we should get rid of all the guns.

00:37:50.000 What do you think?

00:37:53.000 Of course, that was a mistake, right?

00:37:54.000 No, I took it very easy on her, and I didn't tell her any of my background or anything.

00:37:58.000 I simply said, well, you know, I've thought about it, and it seems to me that not one single one of these mass shootings has ever occurred where guns were allowed.

00:38:10.000 And she stopped, and she kind of blinked, and she got up, and she went and washed her hands, and then came back and sat down and looked at me, and she said, you know, I never thought about that, but you're right.

00:38:21.000 So I think there are an awful lot of people out there that you can't grab with statistics.

00:38:26.000 You can't grab with logic.

00:38:30.000 I think there are a lot of people out there that you have to put them in a position of being, you know, as close as you can.

00:38:38.000 Put them mentally in the position of being completely helpless.

00:38:42.000 And then ask them if they would rather have somebody with them, even if they choose not to have a gun, if they would rather have somebody with them that knows how to use one or not.

00:38:51.000 Even if they won't defend themselves, most people are willing to defend their child.

00:38:58.000 So I do my best to talk about that.

00:39:02.000 I know it's hard for you to talk about it, but you do to save other lives.

00:39:05.000 And I've got to commend you again.

00:39:07.000 As you know, people can pull up the uniform crime statistics.

00:39:10.000 Since concealed carry became ubiquitous in most states, crime rates on average around 24 to 25 percent.

00:39:17.000 National, it's only about 20 because of some of the gun-free zones like Chicago and New York.

00:39:20.000 But the Louvies Massacre was a mass murder that took place October 16, 1991, in Killeen, Texas, United States.

00:39:28.000 Uh, when George, uh, Henard, uh, crashed his pickup truck through the front window, gotta ban pickup trucks, on a Luby's cafeteria and shot 50 people, killing 23.

00:39:37.000 Uh, exchanged shots with responding officers and then hid in a bathroom and fatally shot himself.

00:39:44.000 Uh, you were there, you lost your parents, I know it's tough to talk about, but We've now seen fathers that lost children in the last few shootings come out and say, don't use this to take people's guns, but the media tries to ignore them.

00:39:57.000 You as a survivor, I mean, you more than anybody have a right to lay out the record.

00:40:02.000 Can you, for people that don't know, describe what happened and what would have happened if you would have had a firearm?

00:40:10.000 Well, to try to keep it brief for you folks, my parents and I, I was about 31 I think at the time, or I just dated myself, my parents and I had gone to a local cafeteria and we were actually eating with the manager of the cafeteria.

00:40:24.000 The place was packed, it was boss's day, it was the day after payday, middle of the day, beautiful day.

00:40:31.000 And this guy drove his truck through the window, it was a floor-to-ceiling window, and crashed into a number of tables and came to a jerking halt, pretty much in the middle of the restaurant.

00:40:44.000 And, of course, you think it's an accident.

00:40:46.000 And we began to rise up to go help the people he had knocked over, and we heard gunshots.

00:40:52.000 I was on the passenger side of the vehicle, and it was maybe 15 feet away from me.

00:40:58.000 My father and I immediately got down on the floor and put the table, turned the table up on its side in front of us.

00:41:04.000 My mom was down behind us.

00:41:06.000 And the shooting continued.

00:41:08.000 Realize this was 1991 and these mass shootings weren't occurring back then, so it wasn't the first thing that comes to your mind.

00:41:15.000 We were waiting for him to say something like, all right, everybody put your wallets up on the table, or something like that.

00:41:24.000 That didn't happen.

00:41:25.000 He just kept shooting.

00:41:27.000 And when he worked his way around the front of the truck and he was working toward us, a full, I'm going to say 45 seconds had passed.

00:41:35.000 And I realized he was just executing people.

00:41:40.000 And it took 45 seconds.

00:41:42.000 Alex, 45 seconds is an eternity.

00:41:46.000 When I did realize it, I reached for my purse that had fallen on the floor next to me.

00:41:50.000 I thought, I've got him.

00:41:51.000 I've got this guy.

00:41:53.000 I used to carry a gun in my purse illegally because an assistant VA out of Houston that was a patient of mine convinced me to carry it illegally.

00:42:04.000 But I did like most people.

00:42:06.000 You know, you think, eh, what are the odds?

00:42:07.000 If I need a gun, it's going to be if I break down on a back road somewhere.

00:42:11.000 It sure as heck not going to be in a crowded restaurant in the middle of the day.

00:42:17.000 But my gun was 100 yards away in my car where I had begun dutifully leaving it.

00:42:23.000 So, uh, long story short, at that point, my dad started to break free from my grip and said, I've got to do something.

00:42:30.000 I've got to do something. 0.76

00:42:31.000 He's going to kill everybody in here. 0.99

00:42:33.000 And he made a run at the guy and the guy just turned and shot my father in the chest. 0.81

00:42:39.000 Um, again, I apologize.

00:42:43.000 I'm trying to make it a short story.

00:42:45.000 No, it's important.

00:42:46.000 Thank you for sharing it.

00:42:49.000 We'll be right back with more of this powerful testimony from Susannah Hupp.

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00:47:35.000 Let's go back to this amazing testimony by Luby's Massacre survivor, Susannah Hupp.

00:47:43.000 The good news with that, my dad was mortally wounded.

00:47:46.000 I mean, he had covered maybe half the distance, 7-8 feet from me, but he was still alive.

00:47:51.000 The good thing about that was it made the gunman change directions and he had to go off to my left instead of continuing directly toward me.

00:47:58.000 Somebody way at the back of the restaurant broke out one of the windows back there and began to escape through that window.

00:48:04.000 People were able to escape that way.

00:48:07.000 We were kind of up in the front corner and couldn't get out.

00:48:09.000 When I saw what I thought was a chance, the gunman had his back turned toward me, I stood up, I grabbed my mother by the shirt collar and said, come on, come on, we gotta run, we gotta get out of here.

00:48:19.000 And my feet grew wings.

00:48:20.000 So, circle it back around, my mom did not follow me out.

00:48:25.000 And I didn't know that until after, literally, I was outside of the restaurant.

00:48:30.000 She was staying with your dad, wasn't she?

00:48:32.000 Police officers later told me what happened to her.

00:48:35.000 They said that, and a number of them were patients of mine, and they took me and my family to lunch about a week later and told us, they said that when they got into the front, they saw a woman on her knees cradling a mortally wounded man.

00:48:50.000 And they didn't know who the gunman was.

00:48:52.000 And they saw this 30-something-year-old man walk up to her.

00:48:56.000 They said, he put a gun to her head.

00:48:57.000 She looked up at him, put her head down, and he pulled the trigger.

00:49:01.000 And they said all they had to do was fire a shot into the ceiling, and this guy ravaged to a back bathroom alcove area.

00:49:08.000 As he said, exchanged a little gunfire with him and then put a bullet in his own head.

00:49:11.000 My parents had just had their 47th wedding anniversary a couple of weeks prior to this, and it just didn't occur to me while I was running.

00:49:19.000 Mom wasn't going anywhere without Dad.

00:49:21.000 So I was really angry, Alex.

00:49:23.000 I was really, I was really angry.

00:49:26.000 I felt very guilty.

00:49:27.000 I was, I was very angry.

00:49:29.000 I know people think I made this up later, but you can check the newspapers from the second day.

00:49:34.000 I said I was angry at my legislators because they had legislated me out of the right to protect myself and my family.

00:49:41.000 And you can say, well, Susanna, you could have missed.

00:49:44.000 Yeah, I could have.

00:49:45.000 Your gun could have jammed.

00:49:46.000 Well, okay, it's possible it was a revolver.

00:49:48.000 Not likely, but it's possible.

00:49:50.000 But the one thing you can't argue with is it would have changed beyond.

00:49:55.000 I can't begin to tell you how frustrating it is to sit there and wait for it to be your turn and having no way, no means of defending yourself.

00:50:05.000 I can't imagine being in that position again and having my children or my grandchildren with me and having no way of defending them.

00:50:14.000 It makes me physically ill.

00:50:15.000 Well, we now have countless cases since she went public back in 91, 92, 93, where people have at churches and everywhere else stopped gunmen.

00:50:24.000 Just happened down in San Antonio.

00:50:25.000 It's just happened other places just since the Sandy Hook shooting.

00:50:30.000 And the media will not cover it nationally.

00:50:34.000 And we see these countless local news videos of gunmen coming in trying to shoot people for no reason at shops and concealed carry folks that know how to use them.

00:50:42.000 Take them out.

00:50:44.000 And I see the gun grabbers rushing in to try to ban guns right now because they know the gun culture and the self-defense culture is taking over society.

00:50:52.000 All the top rated TV shows.

00:50:54.000 Women out buying guns. 0.99

00:50:57.000 Liberal women's magazines, you know, show women with guns now. 1.00

00:51:02.000 Not because they want guns, the liberal owners, but because they realize women have woken up.

00:51:06.000 They're losing.

00:51:08.000 That's why they're launching this offensive against the Second Amendment. 1.00

00:51:11.000 Would you like to elaborate on that statement?

00:51:13.000 Do you agree or disagree?

00:51:14.000 I agree with you, but I do think that they see an opportunity here because of the Connecticut shooting.

00:51:22.000 You know, it's so hard for any of us to imagine all those little children being just executed like that.

00:51:33.000 And they put the guilt onto us!

00:51:35.000 Have you ever seen such demonization of gun owners where they say we're Klan, we're Nazis, we helped kill those children when it was a gun-free zone and the media advertising crazies go to schools and kill people. 0.72

00:51:49.000 If anybody has blood on their hands, it's them!

00:51:52.000 Isn't that the truth?

00:51:53.000 That's something that I've advocated for for years, is for teachers to be able to carry.

00:51:57.000 And of course, here in Texas, individual schools can make that decision.

00:52:01.000 My school does not allow the teachers to carry.

00:52:04.000 But I can tell you that I know a few that carry anyway.

00:52:06.000 They just keep their mouth shut and do it, thank God.

00:52:09.000 You know, the bad guys, I don't know why people don't get this.

00:52:13.000 Bad guys like that want a high body bag count.

00:52:16.000 They're gonna go where they think they can shoot as many people as possible without anybody shooting back at them. 1.00

00:52:22.000 Nobody knows these cowards like you. 1.00

00:52:24.000 No doubt your father saved your life. 0.98

00:52:28.000 Nobody knows these evil people like you, Susanna Hupp, a survivor of the Luby's Massacre here with us, and really, you know, the grandmother of the Concealed Carry movement.

00:52:38.000 No doubt, not to use the term grandmother like she's old, but she's the person that really started it.

00:52:43.000 Thank God and save countless lives. 0.69

00:52:46.000 Why do these cowards always commit suicide as soon as the cops show up? 0.98

00:52:50.000 I mean it just shows they really are ghoulish demons that they all act exactly the same. 0.98

00:52:56.000 You know, I'm trying to teach my children.

00:52:58.000 I have two boys, 16 and 14, and I think society in general tries to teach people that these bad guys are just misunderstood or they've had a hard life or, you know, all the various and sundry excuses that you can come up with for them.

00:53:15.000 I mean, I've actually literally had people ask me, why didn't you try to talk the guy down?

00:53:21.000 I mean, I can't even argue with that.

00:53:21.000 Like, really?

00:53:25.000 Yeah, just shot your dad in the chest and then you're going to go talk to him. 0.94

00:53:28.000 Let me go talk to this guy about his childhood. 0.95

00:53:31.000 What I'm trying to teach my children is that, you know, there certainly are criminals, I would say the vast majority of criminals in the world, that were created.

00:53:41.000 You know, they did have bad childhoods and whatnot.

00:53:44.000 But there's also evil.

00:53:46.000 I honestly believe there is Absolute evil that exists in the world.

00:53:52.000 That's my next point.

00:53:53.000 Have you noticed that with Son of Sam, Ramirez the Night Stalker, Harrison Kleibold, Lanza, and the guy that just shot the firefighters, they were all admitted devil worshippers.

00:54:06.000 Shouldn't we be profiling them?

00:54:07.000 I did not know that, but I'm not even slightly surprised.

00:54:12.000 Okay, maybe mildly surprised, but not shocked.

00:54:15.000 That's incredible.

00:54:16.000 The evil exists and I believe that you must do your best to stand between evil and innocent people.

00:54:25.000 And it doesn't mean, again, I want to make this clear because, you know, I'll tell you what one of my biggest fears is, Alex.

00:54:31.000 One of my biggest fears is that I'm going to be in some position that I get shot and killed by a bad guy and I'm not able to get a round off for some reason.

00:54:40.000 And I'm so afraid that the other side is going to say, see, her gun didn't help her.

00:54:45.000 And I've said it a million times, it's not a guarantee.

00:54:49.000 It changes the odds.

00:54:52.000 It means you're not a helpless prey animal to be fed upon by devil worshippers and psychopaths.

00:54:57.000 At least I'm not going to be an easy target. 0.55

00:54:59.000 I'm going to do my best. 1.00

00:55:01.000 I'm going to do my best to bloody him. 0.96

00:55:03.000 You know, they might take me out, but I'm going to do my best to put him in the hospital at the very least. 0.97

00:55:07.000 Everybody's going to know who the bad guy is.

00:55:09.000 You know, in the time we have here, because I know you've got to go Shane, maybe you can do five more minutes with us after the break to talk about your book, which I need to carry at the InfoWars online bookstore because I know it's so important.

00:55:19.000 We all need to reach out to the dumbed down people that really think turning their guns in is going to protect them.

00:55:25.000 Looking at Dianne Feinstein, have you seen the testimony in Congress where she admits she has a concealed carry but doesn't want you to be able?

00:55:33.000 I have seen written quotes from it, but I have not actually seen it, no.

00:55:38.000 It's amazing though, I mean how can they all have bodyguards and she can be worth a hundred billion bucks, but then we're not supposed to have guns.

00:55:44.000 I remember being on CNN or one of those shows when Rosie O'Donnell, there had been some incident with one of her adopted children.

00:55:54.000 A bodyguard protected the child.

00:55:56.000 You know, and I went on the air and said, she must be horribly, horribly, uh, um, feel awfully silly at the moment because she's telling all of us to disarm and most of us don't have her kind of money that we can hire personal bodyguards for our kids.

00:56:10.000 And she must be terribly embarrassed.

00:56:11.000 But I feel that way pretty much about fine fine and most of them.

00:56:15.000 It's just an elitist attitude.

00:56:16.000 It's okay for me, but it's not for you because I don't trust you.

00:56:19.000 Well, if you notice, I've even got Christian Science Monitor admitting, I have an article, that our government's trying to restrict free speech online and going the way of China. 0.94

00:56:28.000 I've got an article, after you leave us, we're going to go over, where top Georgetown professors saying, yeah, go ahead and kill old people, death panels.

00:56:36.000 I mean, they're not just going after the Second Amendment.

00:56:38.000 Do you see it as a big canary in the coal mine that they are this open and brazen right now?

00:56:43.000 Here's what I really think, Alex.

00:56:47.000 I don't think Obama is the problem.

00:56:49.000 I don't think Feinstein is the problem.

00:56:52.000 I honestly believe that our public education system is the problem.

00:56:57.000 Because those are the people that are growing up to run for office, that think socialism and Marxism is a good thing.

00:57:04.000 They're the ones that grow up and vote for the Obamas and the Feinsteins.

00:57:09.000 So I truly believe, you know, you and I tend to attack this, and a lot of partisans tend to attack this at the top, you know, when we have to get so-and-so out of office or into office.

00:57:21.000 And I really hope that the problem is down in the political system.

00:57:27.000 Alright folks, that's all we've got time for with Susannah Hupp.

00:57:30.000 We're going to go to break and start the second hour with special reports.

00:57:34.000 Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America.

00:57:36.000 And, yes ladies and gentlemen, we discovered her, we found her identity, the Obama phone lady.

00:57:42.000 Obama got us a phone, he's going to do more.

00:57:45.000 That's right, I had her in studio last week.

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00:59:59.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones. .

01:00:11.000 Our reporters went on the streets of Austin to get people's take on the attempted gun ban.

01:00:15.000 I'm here to not only talk about voting no on some of the legislation that is loosening up regulations, Registration and re-registration of gun owners, but more importantly to ban assault weapons.

01:00:38.000 An assault weapon is a weapon full automatic.

01:00:43.000 It's allowed only the military and police.

01:00:48.000 It's only for the military and police and for a special trust where you can get, where you can buy a class-free weapon.

01:00:55.000 I don't think that taking away a person's right to bear arms is the answer, but I do believe that there should be restrictions.

01:01:02.000 I have a clean record, so technically I could go to a gun show and purchase as many guns as I want to, have them in my house.

01:01:09.000 I have a four-year-old daughter.

01:01:11.000 Why should I have an assault rifle?

01:01:12.000 A gun show?

01:01:13.000 A shooting range?

01:01:14.000 You never see mass shootings there.

01:01:16.000 There's all kinds of ammo and guns and people walking all around them.

01:01:19.000 Yeah, I don't support the assault weapon ban.

01:01:21.000 What I do believe is a good alternative would be, like my colleague here mentioned, is stronger restrictions when it comes to evaluating the people's mental health.

01:01:32.000 Psychiatrist exam or something.

01:01:34.000 Now what about in China where a gentleman, I believe it was around the same time, slashed 20 children with a knife?

01:01:39.000 What do you say to people who may bring that up?

01:01:41.000 Well, I can tell you that I'm a citizen of America and in America we're a civilized people and a civilized people We need to set our own rules in place to govern our country.

01:01:54.000 What do you say to people who say, well, maybe Sandy Hook guy had a gun, but this guy had a knife?

01:01:59.000 A person with a knife is a lot easier to subdue.

01:02:01.000 What do you think about gun-free zones at schools?

01:02:05.000 Free massacre zone!

01:02:07.000 Say the principal had a gun in her office, would she have had time to even pull it out, take off the safety and use it?

01:02:14.000 And to that extent, so I don't think that's a good argument.

01:02:17.000 How long did they have to wait until someone got there to stop this guy?

01:02:20.000 Because no one in this quote-unquote safe school zone or no gun zone was there to defend the children.

01:02:27.000 Obama's kids, they go to a school with 11 guards.

01:02:32.000 Now besides assault weapons, are you for any other type of legislation such as Yes, but I think the core of it is to get rid of the weapons.

01:02:40.000 You know, it's just another incremental step.

01:02:42.000 I mean, okay, is it ten rounds today?

01:02:44.000 Is it five rounds next week?

01:02:45.000 People say they don't want you to have more than 10 rounds in your magazine.

01:02:48.000 You know, it's just another incremental step.

01:02:50.000 I mean, okay, is it 10 rounds today?

01:02:52.000 Is it five rounds next week?

01:02:54.000 One of the alternatives I really, really would push for would be raising the price on bullets, Raising the price on bullets, raising the taxes on bullets.

01:03:01.000 Okay, you realize that a deer rifle or an AR-15 are basically the same thing, just one looks spookier than the other?

01:03:07.000 Well, it should be a weapon that shoots one bullet at a time.

01:03:11.000 The federal government recently just spent, you know, just purchased 1.6 billion.

01:03:14.000 I believe it was in the past calendar year.

01:03:17.000 Well, if it's the federal government purchasing it, then it's probably going to go to our law enforcement.

01:03:21.000 And I think that's something that our law enforcement people need.

01:03:25.000 Not too long ago, the Empire State Building, where the police opened fire on one guy and hit eight or nine other people who were not their intended target.

01:03:31.000 So, what do you say to that?

01:03:35.000 Well, I mean, we can have no comment on that.

01:03:38.000 Don't you want to defend yourself against tyranny?

01:03:42.000 Yes, sir, I do.

01:03:42.000 Somebody that wants you put down like this, wants to make you a slave?

01:03:46.000 Isn't that the freedom of the Second Amendment?

01:03:49.000 No, as far as the Second Amendment, it has the right to a well-regulated militia.

01:03:52.000 Do you think a well-regulated militia could use something like assault weapons?

01:03:57.000 And the Second Amendment is the right to bear arms.

01:03:59.000 And it also has for a well-regulated militia.

01:04:02.000 That's also in there as well, miss.

01:04:03.000 Well, it's our military is our militia, not our common everyday citizens.

01:04:09.000 Now sir, there are people out there that say, why do you need a semi-automatic rifle such as the one allegedly used in the Sandy Hook shooting?

01:04:17.000 Well, just once again, it's not about my need.

01:04:20.000 It's about my right.

01:04:22.000 Miss, if I can ask you a question talking about the blood of children on our hands.

01:04:26.000 The Obama administration, and it went back to Bush as well, had something called Operation Fast and Furious where they gave fully automatic weapons to Mexican drug cartels.

01:04:34.000 Now they said it was a sting operation.

01:04:36.000 But it was used to kill a border patrol agent, policeman, as well as other children.

01:04:40.000 Do you think anybody should be held accountable for that?

01:04:42.000 Okay, I'm not going to comment on that.

01:04:44.000 When seconds count, police are only minutes away.

01:04:48.000 And I carry a 1911 because the police was too heavy.

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01:06:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is now the top story at Infowars.com and DrudgeReport.com.

01:06:26.000 With the video, we played it earlier, White House threatens executive orders on guns.

01:06:30.000 I told you that was coming.

01:06:31.000 Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, told you that.

01:06:35.000 There have been a lot of tweets sent out calling for my death, calling for Larry Pratt's death, calling for Wayne LaPierre's death at NRA.

01:06:44.000 They say we killed the children.

01:06:46.000 They say it's our fault.

01:06:47.000 I guess we killed the people that died or been injured in that big ferry crash.

01:06:51.000 We've got to ban ferries now.

01:06:53.000 Bad things happen.

01:06:54.000 There's 7.5 billion people in the world or close to it.

01:06:57.000 315 million here.

01:06:58.000 They wave the bloody shirt of 20 poor dead children we pray for and their families and then tell us we did it when they're the ones that made them victim of disarmament zones.

01:07:06.000 And I told you, they're going to use an executive order.

01:07:09.000 The ATF last year started telling gun shops what to do outside law, and they told him, hey, don't argue.

01:07:15.000 When he's reelected, we'll do whatever we want.

01:07:16.000 I talked to multiple gun show people in Tennessee, in Arizona, in California, and Austin.

01:07:22.000 We broke that they were being given memos, and they said, well, there's no law.

01:07:26.000 This law didn't pass.

01:07:27.000 They said, well, you do what we say, or we're going to shut you down.

01:07:30.000 We found an eye that wasn't dotted, literally.

01:07:34.000 And now when you go in to do your background, it's all put in a computer.

01:07:38.000 When you call the feds, it's all computerized.

01:07:40.000 You're already registered.

01:07:41.000 They're now saying they're going to physically take the semi-autos.

01:07:45.000 Like Dianne Feinstein said, Mr. and Mrs. America, get ready to turn your guns in.

01:07:49.000 And then Piers Morgan says, I don't want your guns.

01:07:49.000 That's a quote.

01:07:51.000 I just want you to turn all these in.

01:07:53.000 And then I get angry at him.

01:07:55.000 And then he says, I'm dangerous and shouldn't have guns when I have no criminal record.

01:07:58.000 And then the next night, last night, And the man we're about to talk to is scheduled to be on air tonight, Larry Pratt.

01:08:05.000 Piers Morgan doesn't have a big audience, but when it's a gun debate, it goes in all the other news and tens of millions, probably a hundred million.

01:08:13.000 I mean, this is the biggest story in the last two days is what I did with Piers Morgan.

01:08:17.000 And that wasn't my full plan.

01:08:19.000 It was part of it.

01:08:19.000 If he pulled bull, I was going to get in his face.

01:08:22.000 Because all he ever does is bully people.

01:08:24.000 So I gave him his own medicine back.

01:08:26.000 And put him on notice because I realized what Ron Paul said last hour.

01:08:30.000 He said, the line in the sand is the guns.

01:08:33.000 There will be a revolution, he agreed with me, if they come to take the guns.

01:08:37.000 It will happen.

01:08:38.000 Folks, I don't want this to happen.

01:08:40.000 I'm not planning to physically resist.

01:08:42.000 I'm a media person.

01:08:43.000 I'm a general.

01:08:44.000 Okay?

01:08:45.000 They're going to use this to purge and persecute gun owners.

01:08:48.000 And it is going to be an unmitigated nightmare for police and military.

01:08:52.000 Even if he's trying to carry it out.

01:08:54.000 I mean, it's a death sentence.

01:08:56.000 And that's the Globalist's plan.

01:08:58.000 They've been preparing for this, and police are like, you're right, if this happens it's going to be horrible, but they wouldn't dare.

01:09:03.000 Yes, they will!

01:09:04.000 And they're getting it ready for another executive order with the next mass shooting you know will happen with all their hyping.

01:09:09.000 And now we have them saying, Larry, I called you this morning to get you on when you were driving into work.

01:09:14.000 Have you had a chance to see the CNN clip now where the host and his two guests talk about shooting me and agree it's okay as long as they wear a uniform?

01:09:23.000 Alec, I haven't had a chance to even look at a clock.

01:09:26.000 I've been so non-stop.

01:09:28.000 But I'll tell you what, you were just discussing this executive order.

01:09:32.000 That is something that I believe I might have even talked about on your show, because you've been nice enough to have me on so many times.

01:09:39.000 But sometime well into last year, it occurred to me, these guys don't have the votes in Congress.

01:09:45.000 And after the election, it was clear, they didn't have the votes in Congress for the next Congress either.

01:09:51.000 But Obama has shown by what he's done in other areas such as immigration, he'll just bloody well do what he wants and issue an executive order against the law, against the Constitution.

01:10:04.000 Hey, when you're socializing the country, Well, you know, what's a few broken laws here and there?

01:10:10.000 They were only put on the books by a bunch of dead people that aren't here anymore.

01:10:15.000 It's our country now, and I won it because I got elected.

01:10:18.000 And so I think he believes he might have been elected king, although even the British king has far less power than what he's presuming.

01:10:26.000 But I saw what they would do.

01:10:30.000 If you assume the guy is lawless, then you don't have to be a prophet, and I'm not a But I could see that that would be, for him, the course of least resistance.

01:10:40.000 That's where his water would flow, if you will.

01:10:44.000 And he's doing it!

01:10:46.000 Well, I had Ron Paul on, and you just heard me basically paraphrase what he said.

01:10:50.000 He agreed that they want a civil war. 0.72

01:10:53.000 They know what they're doing.

01:10:54.000 If they think they're going to get 160 million gun owners to turn their guns in, there will be a percentage that's not going to go along with it.

01:11:02.000 Well, it's very, very, very critical that if anything bad comes down, that it be very clear that it was the government initiating violence.

01:11:17.000 Remember Lexington and Concord?

01:11:19.000 That day's battle was started by the British because, I think his name was Preston or Prescott, the captain on Lexington Green said, hold your fire until, until fired upon.

01:11:33.000 And if I recall correctly, there were a couple of guys that died almost immediately following that order because the British did fire first.

01:11:41.000 Yeah, quite a few of them, but that gave them the moral high ground.

01:11:46.000 And I think it's absolutely essential that we hold our fire, that we even be willing to perhaps be the first one down because we are in a war of ideas, monster that we even be willing to perhaps be the first one down because we are in a war of ideas, monster culture clash, and it's absolutely essential that

01:12:13.000 We need to make it understandable that there are two kinds of rebels.

01:12:19.000 There's the rebel who goes out in the mountains on his own and is out there, kind of like Robin Hood, shooting people.

01:12:27.000 And then there's the rebel that comes with a badge.

01:12:31.000 If either one of them are acting outside the law, that makes them a rebel.

01:12:36.000 And I know the statists of our time can't get it through their head that they could be the rebels.

01:12:42.000 But the Constitution was put up to strictly limit what the federal government can do.

01:12:49.000 Well, that's profound what you said.

01:12:51.000 When Lenin took over and then Stalin, they were rebels and they even call us counter-revolutionaries.

01:12:58.000 That's what Bill Ayers and Obama in his training, they know they're the rebels.

01:13:02.000 That's why they operate.

01:13:03.000 And you're absolutely right.

01:13:16.000 So we need to remember the Battle of Lexington.

01:13:20.000 It ultimately went very poorly for the British that day, because our guys insisted that the moral high ground be theirs.

01:13:32.000 And that may take a lot more courage than would be needed to go and hide behind a rock and shoot, which they did later in the day.

01:13:41.000 But to stand there at first, naked against the British ball that was coming down at him out of those muskets, that was real courage.

01:13:50.000 But they knew why they were there.

01:13:52.000 In fact, their preacher had preached on that the Sunday before.

01:13:57.000 And he was there with them because he believed as much as they did what he'd been preaching about.

01:14:03.000 I believe he died.

01:14:05.000 I don't remember that, but that's entirely possible because it was not a fun day for either side.

01:14:10.000 The British ultimately lost about a quarter to a third of their entire regiment that they sent out.

01:14:16.000 Some 800 guys, not that many made it back.

01:14:20.000 And more importantly, We were able to get to London ahead of the British couriers and point out what had happened and who had fired first.

01:14:30.000 And that it was this oppressive government that we'd been hollering about for four and six years in formal petitions.

01:14:38.000 Petitions of right, bills of right, all those kinds of things were gone.

01:14:42.000 Over to the British mainland, being published in their newspapers, and then it finally came to that.

01:14:50.000 And so I think we have to remember that history, the history that's not being taught in our government schools.

01:14:56.000 But our forefathers did it right, and God willing, we'll do it right.

01:15:02.000 We'll be right back with the conclusion of our important interview with the head of Gun Owners of America, Larry Pratt.

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01:20:05.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

01:20:12.000 I can't believe we're to the point that we're having to talk about 1775, 1776.

01:20:16.000 I mean, this is not a joke.

01:20:19.000 And I had you on a few weeks ago and I said, from all I've seen, this will be the greatest assault ever.

01:20:23.000 And you said it's shaping up to be that.

01:20:25.000 Undoubtedly now, Larry Pratt of GunOwners.org, this is clearly the greatest assault ever.

01:20:31.000 Certainly in my lifetime.

01:20:33.000 For a while I've been comparing it to Columbine, but I'm beginning to think that they are Much bolder than they were even back in Columbine.

01:20:44.000 And one of the guys here made a suggestion which I still think could well be the case.

01:20:49.000 And that is, they've overreached.

01:20:51.000 What Dianne Feinstein has proposed in her legislation is so far beyond what she got enacted in 94.

01:21:01.000 that they're essentially, with a few exceptions, coming for it all.

01:21:06.000 Her much vaunted statement after she had enacted her, quote-unquote, limited gun ban of 1994 was, well, I just didn't have the votes.

01:21:17.000 Otherwise, I'd have said, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in. 1.00

01:21:20.000 Well, we know what her objectives are, so we shouldn't be fools.

01:21:25.000 She's told us, and she's now indicating that she wants more.

01:21:30.000 Now, I think she's getting greedy, and I think we can use that against her. 1.00

01:21:35.000 Without money, I guarantee you, Alex, none of these Jaspers here inside the Beltway are volunteers. 0.98

01:21:41.000 They're extremely well-paid.

01:21:44.000 I'm sure that 99% of your listeners would love to have what this 1% that works here in the government class is being paid.

01:21:53.000 This is definitely something that can be solved partially by money.

01:22:02.000 If we can get around the Speaker of the House who is like a downed tank blocking a bridge, and if somehow we can build another bridge or get him off the bridge in some way, then I think we could actually enact a spending measure that had a proviso in it.

01:22:21.000 None of these funds may be used for the implementation of executive order, whatever it might be.

01:22:28.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:22:30.000 You have always, again, been a very measured, calm person.

01:22:34.000 And I'm like that in private.

01:22:35.000 When I get wound up, I get very, very upset. 0.86

01:22:38.000 And, you know, did that with Piers Morgan because he's always been a bully.

01:22:41.000 I was not going to let him bully me.

01:22:42.000 So I just basically dominated him.

01:22:45.000 But I want to play you a clip here because this is what was said last night, amongst other things.

01:22:51.000 They said they hope my children don't end up dead.

01:22:54.000 And then there was this.

01:22:56.000 So I'm going to play it for you now.

01:22:58.000 Piers Morgan and guest discuss shooting Alex Jones.

01:23:01.000 Daily Beast writer Buzz Bissinger says Piers Morgan should pop Alex Jones with a semi-automatic weapon.

01:23:08.000 Then Huntsman's daughter, Abby Huntsman of the Huffington Post says, I'd love to see that laughter in a uniform.

01:23:14.000 Piers Morgan, I'd borrow my brother's uniform, who reportedly is an army officer.

01:23:18.000 So I guess if it's a uniform, it's okay.

01:23:19.000 I want to play this clip and get your take on it.

01:23:21.000 Here it is.

01:23:22.000 But what do you need a semi-automatic weapon for?

01:23:26.000 The only reason I think you need it is, Pierce, challenge Alex Jones to a boxing match, show up with a semi-automatic that you got legally, and pop him.

01:23:34.000 I'd love to see that.

01:23:35.000 In uniform.

01:23:36.000 I'll borrow my brother's uniform.

01:23:39.000 That's enough.

01:23:41.000 I'll borrow my brother's uniform.

01:23:42.000 And then there was talk of, I hope my children don't get killed.

01:23:45.000 I mean, and this is entering a whole nother level of creepville.

01:23:49.000 What they did there is reveal the heart of the leftist.

01:23:53.000 The leftist is about force.

01:23:56.000 They're about imposing their righteousness on us schlubs that don't know what's good for us.

01:24:03.000 And it's such a delightful topic to talk about, offing some loudmouth like Alex Jones.

01:24:10.000 That'll teach those bumpkins a thing or two, won't it? 1.00

01:24:15.000 I guess it will.

01:24:16.000 My children were there watching when their deaths were being discussed.

01:24:19.000 I mean, they're clearly trying to terrorize the entire American people with these shootings.

01:24:23.000 While they're horrible, statistically, it's one of the rarest forms of death.

01:24:27.000 Along with our general murder rate, which is declining.

01:24:27.000 Right.

01:24:31.000 And I was just looking at something happily.

01:24:33.000 My son Eric pulled something up that's quite good.

01:24:37.000 There's an under-reporting of murder data in England, which has always held up as the country that's so wonderful compared to ours.

01:24:45.000 British crime, I'm quoting from the finding, uh, reporting tactics keep murder rates artificially low.

01:24:51.000 And then this is a quote from a report from the Inspectorate of Constabulary.

01:24:57.000 Um, suppose that three men kill a woman during an argument outside a bar.

01:25:01.000 They are arrested for murder but because of problems with identification.

01:25:04.000 quote, and the main witness is dead.

01:25:07.000 Charges are eventually dropped.

01:25:09.000 In American crime statistics, the event counts as a three-person homicide.

01:25:13.000 But in British statistics, it counts as nothing at all.

01:25:17.000 And then the report is quoted directly here.

01:25:21.000 With such differences, this is British, 2000, with such differences in reporting criteria, comparisons of U.S. homicide rates with British homicide rates is a sham.

01:25:34.000 That's the British cop group, the Inspectorate of Constabulary.

01:25:40.000 Well, can I have that headline?

01:25:41.000 Because I've got the Telegraph and others admitting that they're the crime capital of Europe.

01:25:46.000 Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in the world, because of course they have more guns.

01:25:52.000 But you can just type in Britain or England, the crime capital of Europe.

01:25:57.000 People are beat, stabbed, you name it.

01:26:00.000 I read all the time where if you fist fight someone raping your wife that busts in your house, they throw the book at you.

01:26:05.000 You know, the farmer who'd been robbed three times, defended himself, and they threw him in prison. 0.92

01:26:11.000 Yeah, they probably give some condoms to the guy that was raping your wife and tell him to clean up his act. 1.00

01:26:17.000 Amazing. 0.98

01:26:18.000 I know, I mean, but see, that's on purpose.

01:26:20.000 They want, that's a criminal government trying to team up with the criminals.

01:26:24.000 Why do they love crime-ridden cities run by mafias? 1.00

01:26:28.000 Well, because we're then terrorized and we must depend all the more for our, quote, protection on the very authorities that have put us into that predicament to begin with.

01:26:40.000 And I don't know whether they're accepting it in England, although it is, as The Telegraph said two days after that Piers Morgan interview, it is the fourth most violent country in the world.

01:26:53.000 Violent crime, which would include murder, but also rape and everything else.

01:26:57.000 And that's what watered down numbers because I've seen those numbers before that they just let murder.

01:27:01.000 I mean, they don't even investigate when they come to your house and you and your wife are chopped up.

01:27:05.000 I mean, it's just like you could have the neighbor running around with a hand in their, you know, hand of a chopped off person.

01:27:11.000 They just say, oh, no big deal.

01:27:12.000 Right.

01:27:13.000 They do not believe in self-defense.

01:27:16.000 That farmer who was infamous up in the little town of Norfolk in England had, after like a third home invasion by the same gypsy gang members that had been terrorizing the whole area, he shot one of them in the dark of night who was coming up the stairs.

01:27:34.000 Actually shot both of them and killed one of them.

01:27:37.000 And for that, they gave him a life sentence, which now he's out of jail because happily, British public opinion finally focused on that outrage.

01:27:46.000 And see, that's what scares me is that I'm still a young man, 38, but I've got aches and pains and things and problems now from a life of action.

01:27:57.000 I can't imagine once I get old and all I can depend on is the gun.

01:28:02.000 I mean, if two guys are coming up my stairs, I'm going to get so angry, even if they're pretty tough, I can probably deal with them.

01:28:07.000 But not when I'm 65, 70, I need that firearm.

01:28:11.000 And more and more now.

01:28:13.000 You know, I mean, as I get older, more and more I try to avoid physical stuff.

01:28:17.000 It's just natural.

01:28:18.000 We need to equalize things for the infirm, the old, the women, handicapped. 0.86

01:28:25.000 I mean, the real liberal thing to do is to arm women. 1.00

01:28:29.000 Exactly.

01:28:31.000 And to make it so that Unarmed children can be protected by their teachers, the janitors, whatever, in schools, rather than insist for now 20 years that if we just say no guns at schools, everything will be fine. 0.65

01:28:31.000 Exactly. 0.65

01:28:46.000 Well, everything is not fine.

01:28:47.000 That's where most of our, in fact, that's where all of our mass murders have occurred in whatever kind of gun control.

01:28:53.000 I hope you can get that out tonight with Piers Morgan.

01:28:55.000 Five more minutes with our guest on the other side, GunOwners.org, it's Larry Pratt.

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01:33:03.000 Direct from Austin.

01:33:05.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

01:33:09.000 From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.

01:33:19.000 When you wake up in the morning and I...

01:33:23.000 Welcome back to the second half of InfoWars Nightly News.

01:33:28.000 We got the Obama phone lady to come down to Austin, Texas. 0.69

01:33:32.000 And if you're a new viewer and you missed it, it's the famous clip that we're gonna play right now of her saying, hey, he gave us a phone, he's gonna do more.

01:33:44.000 Obama.

01:33:45.000 You got Obama phone?

01:33:46.000 Yes, everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone.

01:33:50.000 Keep Obama in president, you know?

01:33:52.000 He gave us a phone.

01:33:54.000 He's gonna do more.

01:33:54.000 He gave you a phone.

01:33:55.000 How'd he give you a phone?

01:33:57.000 You sign up and you're on full stamps, you're on Social Security, you got low income, you disability.

01:34:02.000 I have a question.

01:34:03.000 Okay, what's wrong with Romney again? 1.00

01:34:05.000 Romney, he sucks! 1.00

01:34:07.000 Hey! 1.00

01:34:11.000 And so here they are, all the way from Cleveland, Ohio.

01:34:14.000 We've got Harvey, her husband, and we've got Michelle Dowery right here in studio with us. 0.63

01:34:20.000 Thank you for coming to Austin.

01:34:22.000 Thank you.

01:34:24.000 So what are you thinking so far?

01:34:26.000 Well, I'm liking it.

01:34:28.000 I like Austin, Texas.

01:34:31.000 I like what you told me about Obama and showed me on the internet what he Was doing and what he's about.

01:34:38.000 And we're going to show some more of those clips here in a moment.

01:34:41.000 But I mean, talk about that.

01:34:42.000 Talk about the clips you saw.

01:34:43.000 Well, I say one clip.

01:34:44.000 One clip was about me with my new job and my taxes and how much taxes they took out for me.

01:34:52.000 And he said he wouldn't do that.

01:34:55.000 So there he is, saying that he's going to do something and he did other.

01:35:01.000 And let's be clear, I'm not here trying to get you to support Mitt Romney.

01:35:04.000 I didn't support Mitt Romney.

01:35:06.000 No, you told me that.

01:35:07.000 In fact, I'm going to show you... You're not for Romney or you're for Obama.

01:35:10.000 In fact, I'm going to give you some documentaries like Terror Storm.

01:35:13.000 That exposes Bush involved in or at least elements that control him in allowing terror attacks to take place to take our liberties.

01:35:13.000 Right.

01:35:20.000 Right.

01:35:21.000 My whole issue is I'm here to shoot down politically this whole facade.

01:35:25.000 Right.

01:35:25.000 That's my goal and it's annoying to me to know that the big mega banks they want taxes higher on the average people because there's there's hundreds of millions of us that turns into trillions because they take that money offshore.

01:35:38.000 It's the big banks that get those bailouts.

01:35:40.000 Right.

01:35:41.000 They're always criticizing people who are down and out, get a little bit of help, welfare.

01:35:45.000 My issue is, is that most welfare is corporate welfare.

01:35:49.000 And if we're going to have corporate welfare, like General Motors, I want General Motors to stay in America, not to move to China.

01:35:57.000 Harvey, what's your take on that?

01:35:59.000 Yeah, I'd rather for them to stay here in America because we need the jobs in America. 0.99

01:36:03.000 Especially if we bail them out.

01:36:05.000 Right.

01:36:05.000 Yeah, if we bail them out, we've got to have the jobs in America.

01:36:07.000 Can't send them over there because all the taxes and money going over there.

01:36:11.000 It's amazing.

01:36:12.000 And they spin it and say, oh, we're going to help other countries giving them jobs.

01:36:16.000 All they do is basically force the people off their farms in China and make them go work as slaves in those factories. 0.99

01:36:22.000 Did you know they have suicide nets around the apple factories in China?

01:36:26.000 Because they go up on top of the building and jump off.

01:36:30.000 Oh, and then they catch him and make him go back to work.

01:36:32.000 I'm not joking.

01:36:33.000 In fact, folks, that sounds so insane.

01:36:35.000 When you guys type in suicide nets at Foxconn factories, that's the subcontractor. 0.95

01:36:40.000 Again, this stuff's so crazy, I say it and feel like a liar.

01:36:45.000 But then when you show it, like you showed me in the interview with the radio station, you showed me how, yeah, you got a job, but look how many took 2%, more taxes, but just a couple years ago, he said he won't do that.

01:37:02.000 Well, actually, it's 3.8, and then another 2%, and then another 3-something on investments, yeah.

01:37:08.000 Let's say you're 401K, where they just take that out for the, there it is, inside Apple's Foxconn factories.

01:37:14.000 See the suicide nets?

01:37:16.000 Yep.

01:37:16.000 Right.

01:37:17.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:37:18.000 Scroll down and show them.

01:37:21.000 And by the way, they now forced drug them, reportedly.

01:37:24.000 And they have forced abortions inside the factory. 0.99

01:37:27.000 I think that sucks. 0.97

01:37:28.000 Where is it? 0.97

01:37:29.000 I wish they'd make a Django movie about that.

01:37:31.000 Showing some communist Chinese getting busted up instead of trying to create division. 0.93

01:37:36.000 See, here's the difference.

01:37:37.000 I didn't bring you here to put you down and make Democrats look bad.

01:37:40.000 Because I understand they gave you the Democrat or the Republican choice.

01:37:43.000 They're both a con game.

01:37:44.000 Getting clowned both ways.

01:37:44.000 Both of them.

01:37:46.000 I brought you here to bring us together and say we've got to stand up and demand we be treated like human beings or all of us, like Ross Perot said, naphthene gap will create a giant sucking sound. 0.70

01:37:56.000 He would bring us down, not Mexico up. 1.00

01:37:59.000 And Mexico went down, and we went down, didn't we?

01:38:01.000 Right.

01:38:01.000 We went right down with them, for real.

01:38:03.000 I mean, did things get better after Nathan got?

01:38:06.000 Nope.

01:38:07.000 No sir.

01:38:08.000 Nope.

01:38:10.000 And see, that's real, because when me and you was in our news cam, you know, when we were interviewing for the radio station, you showed me how he said it.

01:38:22.000 He said it in his own words.

01:38:24.000 It was Obama face, and it was Obama talking, saying he would not cut a person like me $20,000 or $30,000 a year, our taxes.

01:38:35.000 Here I am.

01:38:36.000 I just got a job.

01:38:37.000 My taxes are cut.

01:38:40.000 He did everybody.

01:38:41.000 He did everybody.

01:38:42.000 He said $200,000 or more, didn't he?

01:38:43.000 He was making $30,000 or more, didn't he?

01:38:43.000 $250,000 or more.

01:38:44.000 $250,000 or more.

01:38:47.000 And people, 77% of Americans, people making under $30,000, right around $30,000, depending on how they break it down, you get 3.8% taken out on top of 10% already.

01:39:01.000 That's the thing.

01:39:03.000 When you get unemployment and all that, you already paid into that.

01:39:06.000 But see, that's like misleading us saying he's the president.

01:39:09.000 You know, and if you don't know, like, you know, you show me the incidents with the Happy Meal, and that's true.

01:39:17.000 Here you is getting a Happy Meal that's worth $2, a cheeseburger and a fry, a dollar a piece, because it's a 99-cent menu.

01:39:25.000 But I'm going to throw in this toy for free, because it's for kids. 0.78

01:39:28.000 And I know I'm going to get a lot of fools to buy this Happy Meal for $4 or $5, when it's only worth $2. 0.94

01:39:34.000 Woody bought a million and billions of those toys! 0.97

01:39:38.000 Just a fraud in the box.

01:39:40.000 Exactly.

01:39:41.000 Same thing as with the phones.

01:39:45.000 $47 trillion since 2008 has been given one way or another to foreign banks.

01:39:50.000 Right.

01:39:51.000 And a couple hundred billion in infrastructure.

01:39:54.000 Can you imagine if they put $47 trillion into that?

01:39:55.000 $47 trillion.

01:39:59.000 And so that if you divided 47 trillion amongst 315 million Americans, what's the math on that?

01:40:06.000 Whoa, at least about 50.

01:40:08.000 I think it's more than that.

01:40:10.000 That's like blind to the full of Obama phone lady. 1.00

01:40:13.000 Listen, the Obama phone's corporate welfare.

01:40:17.000 They give a handful of corporations all this money on track phones that are $25 at Walmart.

01:40:23.000 I found out what the government's paying for those, almost $100 a piece.

01:40:26.000 What?

01:40:27.000 It's another payoff.

01:40:28.000 Right.

01:40:29.000 And they're only getting two onions in it?

01:40:30.000 Not even that, the track phone that they give you, the phone that Obama gave you?

01:40:34.000 Oh, it's worth more than me buying a Rev-O.

01:40:36.000 By the way, that's $134,000 apiece if they divided that money up amongst us.

01:40:42.000 We're making the money.

01:40:44.000 Well, that's the crazy thing.

01:40:45.000 These megabanks aren't even getting that money.

01:40:47.000 It's to back up derivatives that people like Ken Lay developed, but also Bernie Madoff.

01:40:53.000 But he went to jail for a $100 billion death.

01:40:54.000 This is trillions.

01:40:56.000 They've connected all this fraudulent money that was never real onto our economy.

01:41:03.000 And so they threaten us.

01:41:04.000 They go, if you don't pay this off, at least just pay the interest on it.

01:41:08.000 That's what the $47 trillion is for.

01:41:09.000 It's actually $1,500 trillion.

01:41:12.000 It's more money than there is in the whole world many, many times over.

01:41:15.000 It's all a scam.

01:41:16.000 These con artists created all this money and then bought the politicians with fiat money, made out of nothing, and got them to sign us on to their debt.

01:41:26.000 To their debt.

01:41:28.000 And put their name up.

01:41:30.000 Exactly.

01:41:31.000 I'm here ranting.

01:41:32.000 It's just, let's play a clip that she's talking about.

01:41:34.000 Let's go through these clips.

01:41:36.000 Here is a clip of Obama four years ago in the last campaign saying, hey, I won't raise your payroll taxes, none of your taxes.

01:41:43.000 And then we've shown you the news articles where 77% of Americans, or basically anybody that gets payroll taxes who's working, you get more money taken out.

01:41:52.000 Hundreds of dollars a month on average.

01:41:54.000 Here's that clip.

01:41:58.000 I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.

01:42:10.000 Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.

01:42:20.000 So that's the same clip we played on the radio.

01:42:24.000 Let's play one more clip of Obama promising, and there's a bunch of these lies, to never try to take anybody's guns.

01:42:30.000 Let's go to that clip right now.

01:42:34.000 When y'all go home and you're talking to your buddies and they say, ah, he wants to take my gun away.

01:42:40.000 You've heard it here, I'm on television, so everybody knows it.

01:42:44.000 I believe in the Second Amendment.

01:42:47.000 I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms.

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01:47:05.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

01:47:09.000 Defending the Republic from enemies, foreign and domestic.

01:47:24.000 It's Alex Jones.

01:47:26.000 So there's just a couple of lies.

01:47:36.000 We played more on the radio.

01:47:37.000 What's your take on this?

01:47:39.000 It's like, it's like he buffed us up to get into something and did show us something different.

01:47:46.000 I'm talking about from the four years, last four years I campaigned for him.

01:47:50.000 He said what he was going to do to Lee and Harvard.

01:47:53.000 Lee and Harvard still looks the same.

01:47:55.000 Describe that, that's a neighborhood.

01:47:56.000 That's a neighborhood where Obama when he first came, for the first four years a lot of black minorities helped him in that community and Reached out and did what they did.

01:48:09.000 Then I was one of those that worked for him and that community four years ago.

01:48:15.000 And he told us just like you showed me the clip.

01:48:17.000 I wish I could have saved the clip from Lee and Harvard because he said he was going to rebuild this.

01:48:22.000 He was going to make the traffic light different.

01:48:25.000 He was going to do all this to Lee and Harvard.

01:48:27.000 Because he won his first election.

01:48:29.000 Now that he's won the first election, that was four years ago.

01:48:33.000 It's almost now five years, and Lee and Harvard and Cleveland, Ohio are still the same.

01:48:38.000 But he had that office, said Obama office.

01:48:42.000 People like me four years ago went there and worked for him and did what we did to get him an election.

01:48:48.000 It's gone on five years.

01:48:49.000 Lee and Harvard still look the same.

01:48:52.000 Same thing with me on my behalf.

01:48:55.000 You said, even though I found out you wasn't the man for the Obama phone, but when you got in the election, the Obama phones were passed.

01:49:03.000 By me telling people, I want to say it's like leading them on to something that was not true.

01:49:12.000 It's all a con game.

01:49:13.000 Even if you get something, it's money they already stole from you some other way.

01:49:17.000 Right.

01:49:18.000 My point is, these people are not trying to give anybody a free lunch.

01:49:23.000 And then what happens is people then just start buying into the system, going, well, it's corrupt.

01:49:28.000 I'll just screw anybody I can to get ahead.

01:49:30.000 Then everybody starts screwing everybody. 0.97

01:49:31.000 Right. 0.85

01:49:32.000 Then the whole society collapses.

01:49:34.000 And that's what we're hitting.

01:49:35.000 Do you ever go to some of the churches?

01:49:38.000 I go to church.

01:49:39.000 I go to Anointed Gates in Cleveland, Ohio.

01:49:42.000 And our pastor was telling us that if you don't get your line in order with God now, because even with Obama, You ain't heard him say one thing.

01:49:53.000 I pledge allegiance to the flag.

01:49:55.000 You know, we used to sing when we start school.

01:49:58.000 You see, they don't have that in the schools no more.

01:50:00.000 And look what they got in there.

01:50:01.000 They got the guns, the man coming in, killing the kids, all that going on.

01:50:05.000 But first and foremost, every morning I wake up, I thank God because I'm breathing and I got another day.

01:50:11.000 Same thing with Obama.

01:50:13.000 Obama got a person like me.

01:50:16.000 They called me the Obama phone lady.

01:50:18.000 He got a person like me.

01:50:20.000 Give me more Then I was worth, because I got a job now.

01:50:23.000 I didn't make as much as I made when I worked for Obama, but he reared me in to work.

01:50:31.000 And here I was, quote-unquote, illiterate.

01:50:36.000 And as soon as I got my check, I'm like, you mean to tell me by me working for Obama I got all the money?

01:50:42.000 Not nan dollar taxes went out my check.

01:50:45.000 Where can you work at?

01:50:46.000 I wouldn't care who you work for.

01:50:48.000 The taxes got to come out.

01:50:51.000 I worked for Obama.

01:50:52.000 No government took my food stamps or anything.

01:50:56.000 And that's just right.

01:50:57.000 That's a An incident I've seen with my own self that was not even right.

01:51:02.000 That's because Obama's a made man.

01:51:04.000 You're working for the big, big guy there.

01:51:06.000 Well, even if you is working for the big, big guy, where's my tax dollars going?

01:51:11.000 And they didn't take out any.

01:51:12.000 That's a scam.

01:51:14.000 I don't care who you work for, the law is the same as with me and anybody else.

01:51:19.000 They're gonna take Obama guns and put them off, take the street people guns and take them off and let him have the guns? 0.68

01:51:25.000 No.

01:51:26.000 That's why they're doing what they're doing now.

01:51:28.000 With these guns and everything.

01:51:30.000 You know?

01:51:32.000 Now, you had a few different views yesterday.

01:51:34.000 Our talk, did that help things click, or what happened?

01:51:38.000 Oh, with your talk and what you, what me seeing with my own eyes.

01:51:43.000 Thank God that I did come here to be on the Alex Jones Show, because I, one thing that caught my eye was my taxes.

01:51:52.000 And I seen that my taxes on my check, like, it went up.

01:51:58.000 Even if you put two or three kids, I put five.

01:52:01.000 And his deal was high.

01:52:02.000 They took over like $30, $40.

01:52:05.000 You know?

01:52:06.000 And that money, who was that money going to?

01:52:09.000 Just corruptive.

01:52:11.000 I felt that's corrupt.

01:52:12.000 Well, I mean, he said... He wouldn't take my money.

01:52:14.000 Listen, what's sick, I told you about Kennedy, and anybody can pull this up.

01:52:17.000 Right.

01:52:18.000 Depending on the tax bracket, 50% cut, 30% cut, but he cut taxes massively.

01:52:22.000 Right, for us low minority people.

01:52:25.000 Well, he did.

01:52:26.000 20, 30, 50.

01:52:26.000 Kennedy actually cut the taxes, and guess what happened?

01:52:29.000 Tax receipts doubled.

01:52:30.000 People go, well, how does more money come in if you tax less?

01:52:33.000 Because if you give people their own money, they go out and spend it.

01:52:36.000 Right.

01:52:36.000 And now all the chain reactions and then all this money comes in.

01:52:39.000 Turning back around.

01:52:40.000 Then I believe we got some new laws.

01:52:42.000 Yeah, so why do they want high taxes then?

01:52:44.000 Because they can pick the winners and the losers.

01:52:46.000 The big end... Have you heard about General Electric and people paying no tax?

01:52:49.000 Right.

01:52:50.000 I haven't heard that one yet.

01:52:51.000 These big... Type it in, folks.

01:52:53.000 General Electric paid zero tax.

01:52:55.000 Google paid 3.5 or something.

01:52:57.000 What, they got some writers?

01:52:58.000 I'm paying over 40%.

01:52:58.000 They wrote the laws.

01:53:01.000 All these, the real ultra-rich are exempt.

01:53:04.000 Yeah.

01:53:04.000 That's why Howard Dean came out a month ago and he said, oh no, poor people need to pay more tax.

01:53:08.000 Really?

01:53:09.000 Why not the rich?

01:53:10.000 Really, really.

01:53:11.000 Everybody, listen, I got family that are professionals.

01:53:13.000 They aren't living as good as they were 20 years ago.

01:53:16.000 Right, no one is.

01:53:17.000 And they can't, I mean, and they're getting, you know, weird audits and bills and stuff doesn't, I mean, everybody I know.

01:53:25.000 Is having trouble.

01:53:26.000 Right.

01:53:26.000 Okay, and I live in one of the wealthiest cities in the country.

01:53:28.000 There it is.

01:53:29.000 GE.

01:53:30.000 And by the way, GE lobbies.

01:53:33.000 They lobbied for these tax increases.

01:53:35.000 You know why?

01:53:35.000 Because they're a bank.

01:53:37.000 They're bank owned.

01:53:38.000 They get banker bailout money.

01:53:39.000 They get tax money.

01:53:41.000 They're the biggest welfare queens in the world. 1.00

01:53:44.000 Yeah.

01:53:44.000 GE?

01:53:45.000 Yeah.

01:53:46.000 All of them.

01:53:46.000 It is unbelievable the government contracts they get.

01:53:50.000 Maybe just giving them money right back.

01:53:52.000 Again, now that since I met you, Alex Jones, it seemed like more of the poor that I've seen vote for Obama and go out and do what they needed to do to get him an election, we still in the same bracket.

01:54:05.000 Four years ago.

01:54:06.000 No, exactly.

01:54:08.000 They're experts in conning people.

01:54:10.000 Because, you know, we're in countries in trouble, people need money.

01:54:14.000 Hey, do whatever, help me.

01:54:15.000 They don't want to help you because they want to make you poor so they can control you and buy you for nothing.

01:54:22.000 Keep us content.

01:54:23.000 See, look, look, look.

01:54:23.000 People that have got money and their own jobs, their own companies, what are they?

01:54:26.000 They're self-sufficient.

01:54:28.000 They have no word for it.

01:54:29.000 It's called uppity.

01:54:30.000 Right.

01:54:30.000 And they want the American people to not be uppity.

01:54:34.000 And quote-unquote what they're doing to our brothers and sisters now.

01:54:38.000 I got teenagers in like a 23, 21. 1.00

01:54:40.000 They want to frame them, give them a number, send them to prison for the little stupid things. 0.99

01:54:47.000 When quote-unquote, where I live in Cleveland, it's a lot of work need to be done here. 0.97

01:54:53.000 You know, if I was the president, what I could do, and I know it takes time, but Like I'm saying, four years ago, now it should be in the working.

01:55:01.000 You want again?

01:55:02.000 I got a 21-year-old, went to jail.

01:55:05.000 But if there aren't any jobs, and all you know is this quick money, what would you do?

01:55:12.000 Listen, you know what's come out in Congress?

01:55:14.000 The drugs are shipped into the communities by the government.

01:55:17.000 The big banks, on record.

01:55:19.000 Guys, pull up Bloomberg.

01:55:22.000 Bloomberg.com.

01:55:24.000 376 laundered drug money.

01:55:26.000 376 billion laundered drug money.

01:55:29.000 That's just Wachovia and Wells Fargo.

01:55:31.000 In two years, laundered 300.

01:55:36.000 376 billion.

01:55:39.000 Now if they decriminalize drugs, there wouldn't be any money in it, people wouldn't be shooting each other, and they wouldn't have an excuse to bust in your house.

01:55:46.000 They put something out as an excuse to get you tied into it to take you to jail.

01:55:52.000 See, I've seen that with my own eyes.

01:55:54.000 Oh, there it is.

01:55:55.000 Banks financing Mexican gangs admitted in a Wells Fargo deal.

01:55:58.000 Now let's show them the article.

01:56:00.000 They ran the aircraft, everything.

01:56:01.000 In the article it says... They found 126 black.

01:56:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:07.000 But that's not even the... Where's the article that says $376 billion?

01:56:10.000 That's one of the articles, but it's $376 billion.

01:56:11.000 That's one of the articles, but it's $376 billion. 0.70

01:56:16.000 This is a mafia, and they're a mafia that to feel good about all the evil they're engaged in, they just say we're all a bunch of animals and deserve it.

01:56:23.000 Meanwhile, they're just wrecking society.

01:56:25.000 And the elite's own kids get destroyed by this.

01:56:27.000 We have USA Today.

01:56:28.000 Let's put that up.

01:56:29.000 Wachovia Bank helped launder Mexican drug money.

01:56:31.000 Let's scroll down.

01:56:32.000 Does it say 307?

01:56:32.000 There it is.

01:56:33.000 300.

01:56:33.000 Oh, excuse me.

01:56:33.000 It was 2 billion more than I said.

01:56:35.000 378.4 billion.

01:56:35.000 more than I said, 378.4 billion.

01:56:39.000 That's a lot.

01:56:40.000 Let me tell you, cops pull me over for an expired sticker or something.

01:56:46.000 They go, we want to search your car for drugs. 0.99

01:56:47.000 And I start laughing.

01:56:49.000 I go, you mean the drugs getting laundered in that Wells Fargo right there? 0.72

01:56:53.000 You're a joke, man.

01:56:55.000 You know full well the government deals with drugs. 0.86

01:56:57.000 And a lot of the cops go, yeah, we know.

01:56:59.000 Okay, Facebook.com forward slash ObamaPhoneLady.

01:57:03.000 All right!

01:57:04.000 I got my own.

01:57:05.000 And we're gonna put it right up there on screen for everybody.

01:57:08.000 And taking us out is ObamaPhoneLady. 0.61

01:57:11.000 I'm gonna see you guys later.

01:57:13.000 Nice being in Austin, Texas.

01:57:15.000 Good having you.

01:57:16.000 Good having Harvey.

01:57:17.000 We really enjoyed hanging out with you.

01:57:21.000 I interviewed the Obama phone lady for more than two hours on radio and TV.

01:57:25.000 If you want to see all of it, it's posted at our video site, PrisonPlanet.tv, and also InfoWars.com.

01:57:31.000 That's it for this Sunday transmission.

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Alex Jones Show - January 20, 2013

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