Alex Jones Show - 20130304_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:09.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:11.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:13.000 You want answers?

00:00:15.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:16.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:20.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:25.000 And a rousing good morning.

00:00:33.000 Catherine Albrecht here, filling in for Alex Jones.

00:00:37.000 Let's hope he gets a good, well, a week of well-deserved rest.

00:00:40.000 Alex Jones, on the front lines of liberty out there defending our rights, out there fighting against the globalists and the folks like Piers Morgan, who would take away your guns and your rights and all of your freedoms.

00:00:52.000 Well, you know, even Alex Jones, hard to believe, because it's hard to believe that man ever gets tired or ever rests.

00:01:00.000 We're encouraging him.

00:01:01.000 Hey, get a back rub. 0.52

00:01:02.000 Take a little break.

00:01:03.000 So I'm sitting in with you.

00:01:05.000 I will be with you today, Monday.

00:01:07.000 This is March 4th, 2013.

00:01:09.000 I'll also be with you Tuesday and Friday as well.

00:01:13.000 And you may know me.

00:01:14.000 My radio program broadcasts not long after Alex's on the same network, the GCN Network.

00:01:19.000 Catherine Albrecht is my name.

00:01:21.000 I've been a regular guest.

00:01:22.000 on Alex's show in the past and you probably know me either as the RFID lady or the privacy lady or maybe the lady who's out there always telling you to get off of Google and make the switch over to start page, that private search engine we've been talking about for a while.

00:01:36.000 So it is my pleasure to be with you today.

00:01:38.000 I've got a pretty exciting show lined up for you.

00:01:42.000 Alex said, hey, bring some of your best guests on.

00:01:44.000 So I'm going to be doing that today.

00:01:46.000 First hour, I want to give you some updates from the news, bring a couple of things to your attention in terms of how the technology is merging to create what I've been referring to as the giant, hey, you know, I got a name for it.

00:01:59.000 How about the web?

00:02:01.000 Ooh, the web.

00:02:02.000 How about the net?

00:02:03.000 Let's call it that.

00:02:04.000 Trouble is, that's what it's already called.

00:02:07.000 But if you put it all together, you realize that all of these technologies are combining to create prison walls, whether it is a net, whether it is a web, whether it's a jail, whether it's a prison, lots of ways you can refer to it.

00:02:21.000 And the crazy part about this, I think our ancestors, especially back in the days of, you know, John sitting there on the island of Patmos, taking down some dictation from the big guy in the sky in the Book of Revelation, I think he would have said, I can't imagine that anybody's going to welcome the changes that come about as this global entity takes form.

00:02:43.000 And yet we look around ourselves and we see that people are welcoming it with open arms.

00:02:48.000 Isn't it crazy?

00:02:49.000 It's almost like there's a degree of discernment that some people have and a degree of discernment that other people seem to not have ears at all to hear.

00:02:58.000 But if you are listening to this radio program, if you're a regular listener to Alex Jones or to my own show, then I'm guessing that you have ears to hear and you're feeling something coming.

00:03:08.000 Something.

00:03:10.000 And that something that's coming, when you really feel it down in your bones, it probably gives you a little bit of a chill.

00:03:15.000 Maybe.

00:03:16.000 Maybe makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck.

00:03:18.000 Well, there's other people out there Who are dancing with joy at the development of the encroaching technology.

00:03:25.000 Several of those folks out there, one of them, you'll get a kick out of this one, Justin Bieber.

00:03:29.000 Yeah, any Justin Bieber fans out there?

00:03:32.000 Yeah, I didn't think so.

00:03:33.000 Well, Justin Bieber's latest plan, he has actually been enlisted as one of many, of a long line of folks here, enlisted to promote And make cool, at least to his following, his fans, to make the idea of embracing this future technology very cool.

00:03:51.000 Yeah, Justin Bieber, he's actually marketing a prepaid card so that kids will get away from using cash and move into using numbered payment systems.

00:04:01.000 Give you more details on that as we come back.

00:04:03.000 I've got a break coming up here in just a moment.

00:04:05.000 I also want to talk about how those spy drones, turns out they've been in use now, spying on Americans for the last seven years.

00:04:12.000 Yeah, we just started hearing about these last year.

00:04:15.000 By the time we hear about it, usually this stuff's been around for a couple of years at the very least, and even the seven years may be an understatement as to how long this stuff has been going on.

00:04:25.000 But yeah, we've got the drones now getting equipped with eavesdropping surveillance.

00:04:31.000 ...technology on board, so not only can they spy on you and look through your window, but they'll also be able to listen to you.

00:04:37.000 All right, we'll be right back, right after this break coming up, and then the final thing I want to talk about this hour is national service.

00:04:44.000 Yeah, you want to sign up for that?

00:04:46.000 It's not compulsory military service they're promoting now, but compulsory public service, and guess who's going to be defining what that is?

00:04:53.000 All right, I'm your host for this, uh, today's show at least, Kathryn Albrecht.

00:04:57.000 Fill it in for Alex.

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00:08:13.000 In the heart of the resistance, you're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

00:08:18.000 Hey, hey, good morning.

00:08:26.000 Katherine Albrecht here with you, filling in for Alex Jones.

00:08:29.000 He's taking a much needed break.

00:08:31.000 I'll tell you, out there fighting on the front lines, he needs a little break.

00:08:34.000 So I'm going to be your guest today, tomorrow, and Friday also of this week, giving you updates on the area of my expertise, which is the issues of privacy, the encroaching technological, oh, I suppose you could call it the web or the net or the trap or the jail.

00:08:51.000 Lots of names you can give it.

00:08:52.000 By the way, in Spanish, it's called la red, which means the trap.

00:08:56.000 So isn't it crazy that this thing we call the Internet, this web, this net, has such an entrapment just built right into its name?

00:09:04.000 One of the things that I've been long concerned about, and anyone who's listened to my radio show over the last six years or followed my work since 1999, actually Alex is one of the folks who helped wake me up way back when, then you know that I'm extremely concerned about the elimination of cash.

00:09:22.000 You know, retail privacy, this idea that when you make a purchase, you know, if you think about it, in the past, it used to be an issue of our parents needing the ability to grow food or have the ability to provide for themselves, maybe have some land, be able to put a roof over their heads.

00:09:36.000 Well, for us nowadays, it's less an issue of being able to plant crops on your own land.

00:09:40.000 It's literally an issue of being able to walk into the grocery store and buy food.

00:09:45.000 And we know that historically, whenever governments have wanted to crack down on people, they do it by either rationing or eliminating altogether their ability to buy the things that they need to survive.

00:09:56.000 Well, there's an interesting story in the news out this week.

00:09:58.000 We know that Justin Bieber...

00:10:01.000 I know, I say the name and I want to laugh.

00:10:03.000 Justin Bieber, before you laugh too hard, note that he has more than 51 million friends on Facebook.

00:10:10.000 I didn't even realize there were enough people of his age group to actually friend him, to have 51 million friends on Facebook.

00:10:16.000 30 million Twitter followers.

00:10:19.000 Say what you will about Justin Bieber, it is absolutely the case that he's got an immense Following of young fans.

00:10:26.000 Well, guess what?

00:10:27.000 The powers that be have decided to use Justin Bieber to promote.

00:10:31.000 And this is going to blow your mind.

00:10:32.000 He is marketing a prepaid payment card designed to promote responsible teen spending.

00:10:38.000 He's promoting this to his millions of fans, taking to social media to spread this message.

00:10:43.000 It is a MasterCard from a company called Bill My Parents, Inc.

00:10:48.000 And it is called the Spend Smart Mastercard.

00:10:52.000 Now, why is this important?

00:10:53.000 Because let me tell you what they're conditioning these kids to accept.

00:10:57.000 And I really would alert you, if you're a parent, to take a look at the things that are being marketed and targeted at your children.

00:11:04.000 Because really, the kids are the next generation.

00:11:06.000 It's not going to take too long for today's teens to be tomorrow's judges and corporate officers and bankers and attorneys and everything else.

00:11:15.000 They're going to become the power structure That we are going to grow old at their mercy.

00:11:20.000 And these folks, including Justin Bieber, who just turned 19 apparently last week, these folks are the future.

00:11:27.000 So what is it they're promoting to the kids of the future?

00:11:30.000 Well, let me give you some of the details out of this.

00:11:33.000 Prepaid card to teach financial responsibility.

00:11:37.000 Here's what it does, though.

00:11:39.000 Every time a teen swipes the card, both the parent and the teen receive an immediate text that tells them how much was spent, where it was spent, and what the balance is on the card.

00:11:50.000 Now, if you were a teen, would you really want to switch from cash in your pocket to a prepaid plastic numbered payment device that every place you went would rat you out to your parents?

00:12:02.000 Alright, well let me ask you, even if you thought it was appropriate for parents to know every last dime and penny that you spent, and exactly where you were when you spent it, what kind of conditioning is this creating?

00:12:14.000 Yeah, every time a teen swipes the card, the parent receives an immediate text, get this, it gets worse.

00:12:20.000 The parents can also lock and unlock the card if it gets lost, or if a parent wants the child to stop using the card for any reason, they have the ability, the parent that is, to log on and immediately shut down your ability to use this numbered payment device.

00:12:36.000 Sound familiar?

00:12:37.000 Maybe sounds like something coming up in our future.

00:12:40.000 My big concern And I keep saying this over and over, is that we've got to start, if we're not already, we've got to start using cash.

00:12:48.000 Cash, use it or lose it.

00:12:50.000 Let's talk about one place we've already seen the cash beginning to vanish, in Texas and Washington State, and that is your ability to pay cash at the toll roads.

00:12:58.000 And anytime they take away your ability to pay cash and switch you over into a numbered payment system, you get all of the things that we're seeing here with Justin Bieber's promoted Bill My Parents smart MasterCard, which is the ability for someone out there, some parental unit, whether it's your own mom or dad, as in the case of this particular nasty thing, or whether it's your, you know, maybe it's Nancy Pelosi, Maybe it is Hillary Clinton.

00:13:25.000 Maybe it's Big Sister out there just wanting to make sure that you stick to your diet. 1.00

00:13:29.000 You know, we all have a hard time sticking to our resolutions.

00:13:32.000 We say, oh, I'm going to lose 10 pounds.

00:13:34.000 Well, a card like this, you know, you could reach out to Big Sister and Big Sister could actually help you to make sure that you didn't buy that extra pint of Haagen-Dazs or maybe any pint of Haagen-Dazs ever again.

00:13:45.000 See, once you start tying in the ability to monitor what people purchase, which is what credit cards enable you to do, which is what all of these numbered payment systems do, then you get to the next step.

00:13:56.000 Now, we know.

00:13:58.000 Why is it that you don't want your guns registered, for example?

00:14:02.000 Well, the reason you don't want your gun registered is because you know from history, which tells us this pretty clearly, that when you register guns, the next step is confiscating guns, or controlling them, limiting who can actually have access to self-defense.

00:14:17.000 And then you get restrictions on who can have access to self-defense.

00:14:21.000 And then ultimately you wind up with confiscation and control.

00:14:25.000 And you wind up with a system that says, no, I'm sorry, no, no, people of your ethnic background, people of your economic background, people of your political views, people of your persuasion, whatever that might be, you're not allowed to have a gun.

00:14:40.000 Well, that's bad enough when it's guns, and I'm a big supporter of the Second Amendment, but let me tell you how it's going to be truly horrific when it comes down to food, clothing, the basic things you buy at the store, batteries, extension cords, whatever you need to live in today's world.

00:14:58.000 A new computer.

00:14:59.000 All of it is going to be tied into a registration system, and it's coming.

00:15:03.000 Now, I first talked about this way back in 1999, When I founded Caspian, the consumer privacy group that I founded, as kind of an armchair activist back then, I was frustrated or concerned, I suppose, at the use of RFID, not RFID, well that came later, but in 1999, at the use of the plastic supermarket frequent shopper cards.

00:15:26.000 They go by a lot of names.

00:15:27.000 The main name that they use is Loyalty Card, which I love because it's got such a big brother-y political feel to it.

00:15:34.000 But the use of these loyalty cards at cash registers across the U.S.

00:15:39.000 has now expanded to the point where literally billions of dollars of infrastructure have been built right into the cash registers all across the globe, not just in the U.S., but everywhere.

00:15:51.000 You can go to Jamaica, you can find these things.

00:15:53.000 You can go to South Korea, and you'll find them.

00:15:55.000 You can go to Yemen and Saudi Arabia, and you will find that their cash registers are no longer just calculators with cash doors, but they've now been turned into high-tech, customer-identifying, price-changing, computerized units hooked up to the Internet.

00:16:13.000 And they're hooked up to vast multinational databases, which makes it even more disturbing.

00:16:18.000 So, we've already got the system in place to take all of the purchases being made on the globe and route them back to the central brain, whether that's run by Google or whether that's run by the NSA, whoever winds up running that.

00:16:31.000 But we already have the infrastructure to do it.

00:16:34.000 And the remaining piece is to get the world's people away from cash, over to a system where every time they walk up to one of those cash registers in Yemen, or Saudi Arabia, or Mexico, or any of the other places all across the globe that this infrastructure has been installed, to get them to identify themselves at the point of sale.

00:16:54.000 Now, once you tie this a little further, there was just an article out, Alex and I were talking about this on his show last week, and you can find the link online at InfoWars.com, is Alex and I were talking about this new study out, or this new story out in the Wall Street Journal, that essentially vindicates what I've been saying for 10 years now, I guess 13 years since I founded Caspian, to talk about these supermarket cards, is now they're converting the purchases that you make at the supermarket into individual nutritional and health profiles.

00:17:23.000 So what that means is when you buy that Haagen-Dazs, they calculate the number of grams of fat, the number of grams of sugar, the number of grams of strawberry concentrate.

00:17:31.000 They put all of that into a giant database of information about everything that you eat and everything you take home to your family.

00:17:38.000 Now, up until now, you're not noticing that that's happening behind the scenes.

00:17:42.000 It's underground.

00:17:43.000 It's been going on literally for years.

00:17:45.000 I know this because I attended a talk at MIT where one of the key executives of Stop and Shopper, a big grocery chain up here in New England, he was talking about the supermarket cards and said, you know, it's really great and the best part is the customers have no idea how much data we're gathering on them when they scan that card.

00:18:04.000 And I raised my hand, you know, just kind of a member of the audience who didn't know who I was, and I said, excuse me, why are you spending all that money?

00:18:11.000 You know, these things are expensive.

00:18:12.000 You've got to pay for the card, you've got to pay for the key fobs, and especially you have to pay for the data entry.

00:18:18.000 You've got to build in this huge infrastructure into all of your cash registers.

00:18:21.000 Why are you doing that?

00:18:23.000 And he said, well, we're hoping to recoup some of our expenses by sharing the information with HMOs.

00:18:30.000 And, you know, this was back in, what, 2003, 2004?

00:18:34.000 So, nearly ten years ago.

00:18:36.000 And now you've got the Wall Street Journal coming out and saying it directly.

00:18:39.000 Yeah, absolutely, that's what they're doing.

00:18:41.000 By the way, if there are any employees of Safeway out there listening to this radio show, Safeway was one of the very first supermarkets in the country to introduce the Safeway Club Card.

00:18:52.000 You know, the bonus card, the reward card, the Safeway Club Card.

00:18:56.000 And what they're not telling you is that Safeway employees are kind of the vanguard.

00:19:01.000 They're at the front end of this new plan.

00:19:04.000 If you are a Safeway employee, you actually can receive a, and I'm going to cough when I say this.

00:19:09.000 I'm going to make air quotes with my fingers.

00:19:11.000 You can receive a discount.

00:19:14.000 On your health insurance, by allowing Safeway to record every single stitch of celery, every single hamburger that you purchase and consume through Safeway stores so that they can monitor that you are eating healthy.

00:19:28.000 And if you do, they'll give you, and again I'll cough and use air quotes, they'll give you a discount on your insurance.

00:19:34.000 I would argue that now that they're putting this all together, this ability to convert all of your food purchases into nutritional records, believe me, Obamacare is not going to be far behind.

00:19:46.000 All right, I'm your host, Dr. Kathryn Albrecht, filling in for Alex Jones.

00:19:50.000 Let's all join together and send him some warm wishes of relaxation, a little bit of a rest.

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00:24:28.000 Thanks for tuning in.

00:24:30.000 I'm filling in for Alex Jones this week.

00:24:32.000 So delighted to be with you.

00:24:33.000 I've been a regular guest on Alex's show.

00:24:35.000 I think the first time I was on his show was probably back in 2001 or 2002.

00:24:39.000 And I've been listening to his show since before 1999, when I myself became an activist.

00:24:44.000 So, truly an honor and a real pleasure to be here with you guys this week.

00:24:49.000 And again, just putting out all my best wishes for Alex to actually get a little bit of a break.

00:24:54.000 I know he's been working overtime.

00:24:56.000 I've heard even when he's on a break, though, he keeps working.

00:24:59.000 I'm going to send him a little email.

00:25:00.000 Hey Alex, I hope you're taking a break.

00:25:02.000 Alright.

00:25:03.000 Well, let's see.

00:25:04.000 I've got a couple of additional things I want to bring to your attention this hour.

00:25:07.000 Then I want to open up the phone lines here and get your thoughts on some of these stories.

00:25:12.000 One of them is, speaking of young people, we know that if you want to change society, then if you can get all the young people into one place and condition them in a particular way, then you can create the future.

00:25:26.000 Good or bad, I suppose.

00:25:28.000 I don't know.

00:25:29.000 The future I want to see does not involve large masses of people thinking the same in groupthink.

00:25:33.000 But certainly the powers that be out there like that kind of thing.

00:25:37.000 And that's one of the reasons why the government schools and all of this sort of mass groupthink, where kids are isolated and segregated by age, Where they're isolated and segregated away from adults other than the single authority figure who tells them what to do all day long.

00:25:51.000 That's kind of the mindset.

00:25:53.000 And of course Hitler said to the people who opposed him back in the 1930s and 40s, he said, listen guys, I don't care about you.

00:26:00.000 Meaning the adults who opposed him, his opponents.

00:26:03.000 He said, I don't care about you because the future is your kids and they already belong to me.

00:26:08.000 Yeah.

00:26:08.000 So, if you're sending your kids to the government schools, then do not be surprised if your kids come home and hold viewpoints that don't match your own.

00:26:16.000 And if you're sending your kids out into the university world, they're going to get even more indoctrination.

00:26:22.000 And let me tell you something, I, in 2006, I graduated from Harvard, I got my doctorate in 2006, and that year The commencement speaker was Jim Lehrer.

00:26:33.000 You know Jim Lehrer from the McNeil-Lehrer News Hour?

00:26:36.000 You may also know Jim Lehrer because he is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

00:26:41.000 And if you've been paying attention, you know that those are the global elite that get the message out about whatever it is that they want to have publicized, right?

00:26:49.000 You've got all that major mainstream MSM, mainstream media folks out there, and Jim Lehrer is one of them.

00:26:57.000 I thought it was the weirdest thing ever when, at my commencement speech, Jim Lehrer gets up.

00:27:01.000 I didn't really know much about him.

00:27:02.000 I mean, I've watched his TV show a couple of times, but I didn't really know much about him.

00:27:06.000 He gets up and proceeds to deliver to all of these graduating future leaders of Harvard University a speech about how the goal is to get everybody performing service, that we all need to be reconnected with one another.

00:27:21.000 Let me read you just a couple of quotes from there, then I want to tie it into what's going on today.

00:27:24.000 These guys always announce what they're going to do in advance.

00:27:27.000 He says, we can spur great deeds.

00:27:29.000 This is a literal quote from his speech at my commencement.

00:27:32.000 We can spur great deeds that history will mark decades and even centuries from now.

00:27:36.000 If Harvard can find the courage to change itself, it can change the world.

00:27:41.000 He cited, quote, several opportunities, including the ongoing revolution in life sciences and biomedical research and all of that challenge.

00:27:49.000 But then the key thing is he went on and talked about how we need to have some form of national service.

00:27:56.000 Here's his quote.

00:27:56.000 He says he entered the Marines reluctantly during peacetime, but the experience changed his life.

00:28:01.000 He says, quote, I'm grateful my country forced me to serve my country, not for my country's sake, but for my own.

00:28:08.000 And then he goes on and talks about how important it is that we have, listen to this, a national discussion about implementing a new compulsory service.

00:28:17.000 He said this could encompass the military, the Peace Corps, and other areas.

00:28:21.000 Quote, I believe we need a new, real, hard, wait, hard, real world dose of shared experience.

00:28:28.000 And then he goes on and talks about this.

00:28:30.000 He says the problem with voluntary service Is it gives people not enough options?

00:28:38.000 Voluntary service just isn't going to do it.

00:28:39.000 He wants national service.

00:28:41.000 He says, quote, 2006, I say let that debate and all others around national service begin.

00:28:47.000 All right, now this is where these things get announced.

00:28:49.000 Pay attention, by the way, and I'm going to start paying more attention, to the commencement speeches delivered at the universities of the elite.

00:28:57.000 Because they're after the future generations. 0.96

00:29:00.000 So what is it now that's coming out?

00:29:03.000 Well, we've got a new bill that has been introduced into Congress right now that would call for mandatory public service.

00:29:11.000 So it all ties in.

00:29:12.000 It comes around.

00:29:13.000 It goes around.

00:29:14.000 It's all part of the same circle.

00:29:16.000 This is a new bill.

00:29:17.000 I'll be giving you details on it if you want to oppose it.

00:29:19.000 I would strongly recommend that it's going into committee.

00:29:22.000 But it would call for mandatory national service for all Americans between the ages of 18 and 24.

00:29:26.000 All right.

00:29:28.000 Yeah, they're coming for the kids.

00:29:29.000 They really are.

00:29:30.000 So yeah, you and I get it.

00:29:33.000 I hope there are some kids listening out there.

00:29:34.000 I hope you guys get it too.

00:29:36.000 They're coming for you.

00:29:38.000 All right, Katherine Albrecht here filling in for Alex Jones. 1.00

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00:35:10.000 Alright, let's see, I want to tell you just a little bit about this bill that ties in with what Jim Lehrer was warning us.

00:35:16.000 I'm going to call it warning us about back in 2006.

00:35:19.000 He would call it promoting.

00:35:20.000 And believe me, these folks who are all part of the Council on Foreign Relations, they get their marching orders and then they go out into positions of influence.

00:35:29.000 Like Jim Lehrer did at the commencement speech in 2006 at Harvard.

00:35:33.000 And then, you know, it takes a couple years.

00:35:35.000 What's it been, like seven years since then?

00:35:36.000 Takes a couple years and then it begins to make its way to the forefront.

00:35:41.000 Right now it's in the forefront as a bill that has been introduced.

00:35:46.000 748.

00:35:46.000 H.R.

00:35:47.000 Happy Valentine's Day.

00:35:49.000 This was your Valentine's gift.

00:35:50.000 This was introduced on February 14th.

00:35:54.000 2013 opponents, let's see, we'll post some information on my blog at KMAShow.com and also post some information about InfoWars of how you can oppose this.

00:36:04.000 The bill would require...

00:36:08.000 Let's see.

00:36:08.000 Authorize the induction, I'll read this, of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end strength requirements, etc., etc., but it also requires all persons in the U.S.

00:36:17.000 between the ages of 18 and 25 to perform national service.

00:36:22.000 They would either serve the country as a member of uniformed services or civilian service.

00:36:27.000 That civilian service could be served with federal, state, or local government programs, including community-based organizations.

00:36:35.000 Who do you think is going to be determining Which community-based organizations are appropriate and which are not?

00:36:41.000 Yeah, that's the big question here.

00:36:43.000 There's been a lot of speculation regarding this since President Obama, who also is part of the same cabal, in 2008, just a year and a half after Jim Lehrer made his little statement there to the students of Harvard, he called for a quote, citizen army or a quote, civilian national security force.

00:37:03.000 What a frightening idea.

00:37:04.000 Alright, just giving you a heads up, this thing is making its way through committee.

00:37:07.000 We'll give you information on how you can oppose it here shortly.

00:37:11.000 Alright, so a couple of topics on the table right now.

00:37:14.000 One of them is Justin Bieber with his 50 million Facebook followers promoting the use of a card.

00:37:20.000 This is a prepaid payment card.

00:37:23.000 That would tell your parents, if you're a kid, tell your parents exactly how much you spent down to the penny and exactly where you spent it in real time via a text and would give the parents the ability to just wave a wand and turn off your ability to make payments altogether.

00:37:38.000 Sound like conditioning?

00:37:39.000 Yeah, it kind of does to me too.

00:37:41.000 Alright, speaking of that, let's go to Chris calling in from Kentucky.

00:37:46.000 Let's see, I think we got Chris on the line.

00:37:48.000 Chris, go right ahead.

00:37:49.000 Hello.

00:37:49.000 Hello, Catherine.

00:37:51.000 Thank you so much for bringing this up.

00:37:53.000 Yes, you were talking about the rewards cards earlier.

00:37:56.000 Not just major chains that are doing this, but small businesses around here, such as coffee shops, are doing it.

00:38:02.000 It's like, if you buy so much quantity of this product, we'll give you one or two free of all the counting records they put you in a database about.

00:38:10.000 Well, it depends, Chris, on how they do it, because I'm actually a big fan of the punch cards, you know, where you've just got a little card, because they don't need to know who you are.

00:38:18.000 You don't need to tell them anything about yourself.

00:38:20.000 You don't have to use a numbered account.

00:38:22.000 You're not in a computer.

00:38:23.000 And if you're a little coffee shop and you're thinking of introducing something like this, you don't have to pay for all the software and everything else.

00:38:28.000 Just get yourself a stack of cards and a unique little punch thing and, you know, buy six coffees, get a seventh free.

00:38:35.000 That, to me, seems like the way to go rather than the big databases.

00:38:39.000 So, Chris, are you a member of any of these rewards cards?

00:38:42.000 No, not at all.

00:38:43.000 I don't even have a cell phone.

00:38:46.000 There you go.

00:38:46.000 I do have a computer.

00:38:47.000 I have internet on start page.

00:38:50.000 Glad to hear it.

00:38:52.000 Good.

00:38:53.000 I tell you that our privacy, this commercial, another one I saw not long ago was this window got broken on a house and the neighbors looked at each other and said, We came up with this iPhone.

00:39:05.000 You electronically write your check through a cell phone to the bank, wireless, and you talk about privacy issues.

00:39:13.000 Is this the one, I think this is the Samsung Galaxy ad where they hold the phones together to one another and the money just transfers automatically, changes hands?

00:39:22.000 Exactly.

00:39:24.000 You know, that's really where they want to move us to.

00:39:27.000 As soon as they can get us away from cash, believe me, they would have done it yesterday if they could, is to get us to stop using cash.

00:39:33.000 And even though all these television ads would make you think that people don't use cash anymore, it is still between 70 and 85 percent of purchases in the U.S.

00:39:41.000 today are made with cash.

00:39:42.000 So, we are not a cashless society by any stretch.

00:39:46.000 And it turns out that the worse the economy gets, the more people revert to using cash.

00:39:51.000 So, they're really just tearing their hair out in frustration because many more of us are saying, forget the credit cards.

00:39:57.000 I don't want to be paying that interest rate.

00:39:59.000 I'm going to go back to using cash.

00:40:01.000 So, they're going to try using the media, using folks like Justin Bieber, using video games, using every possible way that they can come up with to get us off of cash.

00:40:11.000 Yeah, and I'm glad you're resisting it.

00:40:13.000 I think we all need to.

00:40:14.000 And the thing I continue to say, cash, use it or lose it.

00:40:17.000 And if they want your personal information to make a purchase, decline.

00:40:21.000 Say no thank you.

00:40:23.000 And those of you, by the way, using shopper cards under a fake name, that'll only work until you use a credit card or an ATM card.

00:40:30.000 Because you can sign up as Mickey Mouse, but the minute you scan the, you know, John Q. Peterson card, they throw Mickey Mouse out and put your name at the top.

00:40:39.000 So if you shop at a store that absolutely forces you to use a frequent shopper card to get the discounts and you don't have any other alternatives, those are a lot of ifs, but if you are in that situation, what I would recommend doing is get two separate supermarket cards, take a sharpie marker and on one of them write cash and only use that one when you have cash.

00:40:59.000 And if you ever find yourself without cash and you have to use a credit card, then write credit or ID on the other one and then use that one with your ID and that way most of your purchases will be anonymous with that cash card.

00:41:10.000 And I'd say, you know, periodically just lose it and sign up for another one as anonymously as you can.

00:41:15.000 All right, let's go on to, let's see, got additional callers here.

00:41:18.000 Let's go to Julio who's been holding for some time in Illinois.

00:41:22.000 Good afternoon or good morning, Julio.

00:41:24.000 Hello.

00:41:24.000 I think it's afternoon.

00:41:25.000 Good afternoon.

00:41:26.000 Good afternoon.

00:41:26.000 Depends on where you're at.

00:41:28.000 I'm a big fan of your work.

00:41:29.000 Thank you!

00:41:31.000 I have a privacy question but I want to mention something about GMOs briefly.

00:41:34.000 I'm doing a documentary and last week I was just outside of the Pentagon near DC and was able to ask a few questions to Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack.

00:41:46.000 And asked him about GMO safety, if it's safe for human consumption, will we ever see some sort of USDA GMO label similar to a USDA organic label.

00:41:58.000 He flat out told me, he also told me about drought resistant seeds.

00:42:03.000 Number one, drought resistant seeds are safe, they're very beneficial.

00:42:07.000 Number two, there's no, quote, reputable study out there, end quote, that says GMOs aren't safe for human consumption.

00:42:17.000 And then finally he said he does not foresee a day that will see GMO labeling from the USDA.

00:42:24.000 So I found that very interesting.

00:42:26.000 I don't think those guys are going to be the source through which that's going to come if it comes.

00:42:30.000 I mean, I'm sure you could have asked the Alabama school department, hey, when are you guys going to have desegregation back in the 40s?

00:42:36.000 And they would have said, no, we're not going to do it.

00:42:38.000 It really takes people sitting down and, you know, sometimes literally sitting in the streets and blocking traffic to say, we absolutely demand it.

00:42:48.000 And I don't think any of these guys is going to come out and voluntarily do that, because there's way too much money at stake.

00:42:54.000 They've got the entire Monsanto, Nubico, Dwayne Andreas, Archer Daniels, Midland Cabal breathing down their necks, and that's where the money is right now.

00:43:03.000 So until there's enough pressure to overcome the inertia that you get when there's huge amounts of money involved, we're not going to see those changes.

00:43:13.000 That's why I'm looking for the state level.

00:43:15.000 You know, I personally have totally given up on the federal government to really solve any of our problems.

00:43:21.000 I think they're more of a source of problems than a solution.

00:43:23.000 But on the local level, you're seeing communities all over the country saying, we're a GMO-free zone.

00:43:29.000 You can't plant those crops here anymore.

00:43:30.000 You've got Hawaii now saying, no more imported GMO foods unless they're labeled.

00:43:34.000 You've got, you know, on the local level, California almost, almost passing, and some say it did pass, that initiative that would have required labeling.

00:43:43.000 And you know what it reminds me of, Julio, is back when they first introduced RFID.

00:43:48.000 And that's the microchips, remote tracking microchips on consumer products.

00:43:52.000 And I said, you've got to label them.

00:43:54.000 And we had this bill, we introduced the bill, and I spoke at a big RFID conference.

00:43:58.000 All these men, it was like three women and like 200 men.

00:44:02.000 And I'm standing up there on the stage and I said, listen, I've got some legislation I want to talk to you guys about.

00:44:06.000 And they're all glaring and they want to throw tomatoes at the stage.

00:44:09.000 And I said, no, no, you guys are going to like this.

00:44:11.000 You think I'm going to get up here and say we need to ban RFID and consumer products, but what I really just want is labeling.

00:44:18.000 And they still kept glaring at me.

00:44:19.000 And one guy stood up in the front row and he says, Catherine, you know as well as we do, if we label it, it's the same as a ban because people aren't going to buy it.

00:44:29.000 And my response to that was, listen, if you can't tell people you're doing it, then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

00:44:35.000 So, I think we're going to see the same thing, any kind of labeling, whether it's labeling of garbage in the milk, human growth hormone in the milk, whether it's labeling bovine growth hormone, whether it's labeling of GMO, whether it's labeling of RFID tracking devices.

00:44:49.000 If they have to tell you about it, they know that you're going to say no way.

00:44:55.000 And what it's really going to come down to, even if they do label it, they're still going to be doing it in the cheap stuff, going out to the people who aren't educated enough to read a label.

00:45:03.000 And then you're going to see a real divide in our culture between the people who are poor and not educated, who will become sicker and sicker, and those who have the money to avoid the genetically modified foods.

00:45:14.000 And I don't want to see that division in our society.

00:45:16.000 I don't think that's going to be a good move, really, for anyone involved.

00:45:19.000 Hey, thanks for the call, Julio.

00:45:20.000 I appreciate it.

00:45:20.000 All right, let's go to Dan calling in from Idaho on compulsory service.

00:45:24.000 Hello, Dan.

00:45:25.000 Hello, Catherine.

00:45:28.000 I think that when the parents get put under control by using these cards with their children, then when big sister wants to justify her doing the same thing to us in the future, she'll just say, well, you did it to your kids.

00:45:40.000 Why can't we do it to you?

00:45:42.000 See, isn't that the case?

00:45:43.000 And, you know, you're so right here, Dan, because oftentimes what people say to me is, well, you know, if they're going to have RFID tracking, why don't they just put that on Congress?

00:45:52.000 And I say, that'd be the worst thing in the world to do.

00:45:54.000 Because the minute you take the people who are in positions of authority and control, and you accustom them to being tracked, monitored, and surveilled, then they don't even blink or think twice before they do it to us.

00:46:05.000 And this whole thing about parents, you know, getting parents on board.

00:46:09.000 Parents are, I have to say, whenever I talk about implantable microchips and tracking devices, everybody says, oh no, that's terrible, I don't want it, get it away from me.

00:46:17.000 Oh, but wait, could you put that on my kid?

00:46:21.000 There's something about the desire, and I think it's in part because kids are so out of the control of parents today, that if you can appeal to parents' sense that their kids are out of control, then you can get the parents to put the prison bars on the kids.

00:46:37.000 You can get the parents to actually inject probably tracking devices right into their own flesh and blood, right into their kid's flesh.

00:46:44.000 You can probably get parents to not only sign up for this Justin Bieber cash card program, but actually get them to beg for it or even pay for it.

00:46:53.000 So there's something really going on there where they appeal to our sense of being out of control.

00:46:58.000 And the one place where people feel like they do have a little bit of control is over their own children.

00:47:02.000 So yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

00:47:04.000 I think that once they get the parents to do it, to sign up for this, then they'll turn around and say, all right, now we want y'all to do it.

00:47:10.000 And you know it's coming.

00:47:12.000 You know, especially in light of Obamacare.

00:47:14.000 I said I was going to mention that.

00:47:15.000 You know, Obamacare is going to be all about you paying for that guy over there's medical care. 1.00

00:47:20.000 And right now, heck no, I don't want you monitoring my Haagen-Dazs consumption, but I would like you to monitor that guy's Haagen-Dazs consumption because I don't want to have to pay for his triple bypass surgery in a year.

00:47:32.000 So I think they're going to use that as the justification.

00:47:35.000 Look how expensive all this health care is.

00:47:38.000 We don't have enough money for your health care because we're paying for that guy over there eating 50 bags of Cheetos a month. 0.95

00:47:44.000 Why don't we just use the technology that we've got in place right now?

00:47:48.000 And register his Cheeto purchases and cut them off.

00:47:51.000 You know, make that guy not eat the Cheetos. 1.00

00:47:53.000 And everybody's going to go, oh yeah, sounds good!

00:47:56.000 You know, that's what they're doing at Safeway right now.

00:47:57.000 So I think it's coming.

00:48:00.000 I really do.

00:48:00.000 I think it's in our future.

00:48:03.000 You know, they won't pay for what I'll do with this insurance.

00:48:06.000 And I won't do what they'll pay for because I go everything natural.

00:48:09.000 And when my children were born back in the early 80s, I started having children, we just had them at home.

00:48:17.000 We didn't get a birth certificate, we didn't get a social security number, we put the entry in the Bible, we took the Bible down and got them passports, and the kids have been able to function extremely well.

00:48:30.000 We made a historic case in Wyoming when my son was issued a driver's license without a social security number, but we just lived to a different tune for a long time.

00:48:42.000 I tell you, Dan, I would love to hear that story, actually, because I've had a number of people on my own radio show in recent weeks talking about their court cases and their opposition to being numbered or having their kids numbered.

00:48:54.000 So if you could reach out to me, if you go to my website, it's kmashow.com or just katherinealbrecht.com, you can find the contact info on there.

00:49:02.000 And reach out to me, because I'd love to talk to you further about that.

00:49:05.000 Especially parents out there who've made the choice not to number their kids.

00:49:09.000 I think that, you know, the powers that be want you to believe that that doesn't happen, and I happen to know for a fact that it absolutely does, and that there are a lot of kids out there who are not part of the system.

00:49:21.000 So, thank you, Dan.

00:49:22.000 Please reach out and say hello to me.

00:49:22.000 I appreciate the call.

00:49:25.000 Let's see if we can squeeze in Bob in Michigan about compulsory service here just under the break.

00:49:29.000 Bob, are you there?

00:49:30.000 Thank you for taking my call, and I'm going to add to what the previous caller said.

00:49:30.000 Very good.

00:49:35.000 The Social Security number and the driver's license and so on makes you chattel goods of the executive branch of the government.

00:49:44.000 And if you look on the statutes that apply to the Social Security number, it requires that you get order and notice.

00:49:53.000 And my question to everybody, has anybody at all ever received order and notice?

00:49:59.000 This is what they don't want.

00:50:01.000 People are arguing about the mechanics of this, and we don't want that.

00:50:05.000 This is what you do.

00:50:06.000 That gentleman that was just on there is spot on, and I'm just giving you the rest of the story.

00:50:12.000 I'm with you, Bob.

00:50:13.000 And let me point out one other thing, too, about this whole compulsory service thing, tying in with IDing your kids at birth, is that's the system through which the registration for military service right now Is the way that they will nail your kids.

00:50:27.000 When your kids turn 18 or apply for college, if they don't fill out that form, if they don't sign up for Selective Service Registration, then they're in violation of federal law.

00:50:36.000 So there's no law making you register your kids.

00:50:39.000 But once you turn 18, you've got to do it, especially if you want to go to college or qualify for any kind of grant or scholarship.

00:50:45.000 And that's going to be a big part of this compulsory service for everyone, girls included, if this thing passes, if this new piece of legislation passes.

00:50:53.000 Alright, Catherine Albrecht filling in for Alex Jones. 0.99

00:50:56.000 We'll be right back with more of your calls.

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00:54:26.000 So good to be on with you today.

00:54:28.000 Giving you guys a heads up about a couple of things.

00:54:31.000 Compulsory National Service.

00:54:33.000 Obama warned us about it back as a candidate in 2008.

00:54:36.000 They elected him anyway.

00:54:38.000 He said, quote, we cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set.

00:54:46.000 We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, and just as well-funded.

00:54:54.000 He referred to this as a citizen army.

00:54:57.000 God forbid.

00:54:58.000 A citizen army back in 2008.

00:54:59.000 Of course, they want to disarm us, so they don't really want a citizen army. 0.79

00:55:03.000 They just want an army.

00:55:05.000 Of peons willing to march in staff and do what they say.

00:55:08.000 We were warned about this also by Jim Lehrer back in 2006.

00:55:11.000 He spoke at my own graduation speech at Harvard as I received my doctorate.

00:55:15.000 He got up there and I said, what in the world?

00:55:17.000 What kind of weird speech is this?

00:55:19.000 How would Jim Lehrer get up and tell us that we all need compulsory national service but a voluntary national service would not be adequate because it would be split between the elite and the common man.

00:55:31.000 And only if it is mandatory for all people alike will it be fair and just and equitable gulp.

00:55:38.000 Yeah, that's what they want.

00:55:39.000 They want everything to be equally abysmal for all people in the country.

00:55:44.000 So let's hope this thing doesn't pass.

00:55:45.000 Introduced February 14, 2013.

00:55:48.000 It has already been referred to the House Armed Services Committee.

00:55:51.000 And the chair of that committee is Representative Buck McKeon.

00:55:55.000 He's a Republican from California.

00:55:57.000 He is going to be determining whether the bill passes and moves on to the committee stage.

00:56:02.000 Opponents are urged to call Representative McKeon there in California and tell him how they feel about the bill.

00:56:08.000 You can also send him tweets and post on his Facebook page.

00:56:12.000 You can also contact Representative Rangel by contacting him as well, and I'll post information about that on my blog at KMAShow.com.

00:56:21.000 Alright, speaking further about compulsory service, let's see, we've got Zoe on the line, listening from Illinois.

00:56:29.000 Hi Zoe!

00:56:30.000 Hi!

00:56:32.000 I do have a couple things.

00:56:34.000 Isn't compulsory service enslavement, even though it's temporary?

00:56:38.000 You know, it sounds like it, doesn't it?

00:56:39.000 Exactly.

00:56:40.000 It's essentially yanking you out of your home and putting a gun to your head if you don't comply and saying, yea verily, now you'll work for us.

00:56:47.000 So yes, it definitely has that sense to it, doesn't it?

00:56:51.000 I think it is, and I wanted to tell you a couple things.

00:56:53.000 First of all, you'll probably never want to speak to me again, because on the weekend I was sort of, I wasn't coerced, but I was kind of gently urged and signed up for a restaurant card that I didn't know you had to put your name and address and an email, and I don't even use email, but I have one, and so I ended up doing it, and while I'm letting my friend do it, I'm actually blind.

00:57:20.000 I was going, why am I doing this?

00:57:22.000 And I did.

00:57:23.000 I think we need to listen to that little voice, Zoe.

00:57:26.000 You know, if there's a voice inside of you going, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, you know, that's that's called your conscience.

00:57:32.000 It should probably be operational.

00:57:35.000 You know, this signing up for all of these rewards things is going to become easier and easier, though, because in this case, you had a friend and she had to fill out a form and put down your name and then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:57:44.000 You know, in the future, what it's going to involve Is there going to say, hey, you want to sign up for a discount?

00:57:48.000 And I put that in air quotes because the discount is always just avoiding a surcharge, really.

00:57:54.000 Because what they do is they crank the rates up really high, the prices or the meals or the whatever it is, they crank it up high to accommodate these discounts.

00:58:01.000 Believe me, they're not going to lose any money off of this.

00:58:03.000 And then they twist your arm to get you, you know, by essentially threatening you with higher prices or poor service.

00:58:11.000 And then if you comply, then you get the decent prices once again.

00:58:14.000 So, you know, it's a bad plan across the board.

00:58:18.000 I encourage people not to do it.

00:58:19.000 But in the future, it's just going to be tap your cell phone.

00:58:21.000 They're going to say, hey, you want to sign up?

00:58:22.000 Just tap your smartphone against this little thing.

00:58:25.000 Boom.

00:58:25.000 And it's done.

00:58:26.000 Because they want to take away that moment, Zoe, that you had where your conscience kicked in and said, I probably shouldn't do this.

00:58:32.000 All right, thanks for the call.

00:58:34.000 Coming back right after this hour with Adrian Salbucci.

00:58:38.000 He's going to talk to us about the global economic situation.

00:58:41.000 He's going to be joining us from Buenos Aires.

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01:00:20.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:25.000 Hey, we're back.

01:00:32.000 Katherine Albrecht here with you, filling in for Alex Jones.

01:00:36.000 He's taking a much-needed break, and I wish him all the best as he takes a deep breath.

01:00:41.000 Hope he gets a massage.

01:00:42.000 We were talking about maybe getting him out there for a little shoulder relaxation.

01:00:46.000 You know, we all need that.

01:00:47.000 I gotta tell you, it's hard to be out here on the front lines doing this work.

01:00:51.000 It is difficult every day.

01:00:52.000 You know, because it's coming so fast and so furious, you open up whatever portal you have to news, whether it's Infowars.com, whether it is your email, and emails coming in from friends and colleagues, whether it's the newsletters that you get, whether it's the television that you turn on.

01:01:09.000 However it is that it's coming at you, it's coming at you fast and furious.

01:01:14.000 Do you feel it?

01:01:16.000 I can't even cover, even if I had all day.

01:01:18.000 We've got three hours here on Alex's show.

01:01:20.000 I'm going to be due in two hours, in just a couple hours of my own radio show.

01:01:24.000 And even with that amount of time, there is no possible way that I'm going to get to all the stories that, for one day alone, have come across my desk.

01:01:33.000 It is overwhelming.

01:01:35.000 Utterly overwhelming.

01:01:36.000 And so the question then becomes, what do we do?

01:01:38.000 How do we respond to the onslaught, the immense onslaught of all of this stuff happening?

01:01:44.000 And the one thing I would advise you, don't get discouraged.

01:01:48.000 I know that's easy to say, right?

01:01:50.000 But don't get discouraged because you, as one individual, are not going to be able to stop the onslaught.

01:01:55.000 You are not.

01:01:56.000 There are people out there working to inform, educate, and fight back.

01:02:00.000 Alex Jones, of course, being one of the people at the forefront for well over a decade now.

01:02:05.000 I'm out there fighting the RFID spy chips.

01:02:07.000 We've got other people out there fighting against genetically modified foods.

01:02:10.000 We've got people fighting on many of the battlefronts.

01:02:14.000 But ultimately, one individual person is not going to be able to stop this.

01:02:18.000 So, at the end of the day, what are you responsible for?

01:02:22.000 This is really my question for you.

01:02:24.000 At the end of the day, you're not responsible if this hideous bill that I was talking about in the first hour of Alex's show here, this awful bill that would make mandatory, compulsory public service for people ages 18 to 24, if that bill passes, that's not going to be your personal fault.

01:02:42.000 You can't control whether that passes or not.

01:02:45.000 You can make a phone call, you can maybe sign a petition, but ultimately that's going to pass whether you get involved or not, as much as I hate to say that.

01:02:55.000 The question then becomes, what can you do?

01:02:58.000 And what are you responsible for?

01:03:00.000 And I say this maybe as a pep talk, even for myself.

01:03:03.000 If we do get to the point where there are implantable microchips, God forbid, because they're really dangerous, check out my website at chipmenot.com to see how they cause cancer.

01:03:12.000 But even that, even the thing where I've staked out my own territory and been fighting against this for 10 years, even if that passes, is it going to be my fault that it passes?

01:03:23.000 So let me just give you a little bit of maybe reassurance that at the end of the day you are responsible for your own actions.

01:03:31.000 If you sign up your kids to be implanted with microchips, shame on you! 0.95

01:03:34.000 You're going to have to answer for that.

01:03:36.000 If you sign up and actually support some of these steps in this direction, or you shop at the stores that are implementing these terrible programs, or you get rid of cash and you only use your credit card, or you sign up for all the frequent shopper club cards, Then you're contributing to the problem.

01:03:54.000 So while we can't solve the problem, we can certainly remove ourselves from contributing to it.

01:03:59.000 And this is actually in the book of Revelation in the Bible.

01:04:02.000 There's actually a place where it says, speaking of Babylon, speaking of the evil sort of empire of the end, known as Babylon in the Bible, it actually says, come out of her my people.

01:04:14.000 Lest you be partakers of her sins and receive of her plagues.

01:04:19.000 So I believe right now, if I had to look at the number one thing that we're supposed to do above and beyond anything else, come out.

01:04:25.000 Don't participate.

01:04:26.000 Don't feed the beast.

01:04:28.000 Don't give it your data.

01:04:29.000 Don't log on to Google 50 times a day and say, well, right now I'm thinking about this and next I'm thinking about that.

01:04:35.000 Don't tell him.

01:04:36.000 Pull out.

01:04:37.000 Remove yourself.

01:04:38.000 Step back.

01:04:39.000 Don't participate in Babylon. 1.00

01:04:41.000 And then, once you've done that, then we can start figuring out where you can find your particular battleground, and where you can stake your own spot in defending.

01:04:50.000 All right.

01:04:51.000 I'm Dr. Kathleen Albrecht, filling in for Alex Jones.

01:04:53.000 When we come back, we'll be joined by Adrienne Salbucci, joining us from Buenos Aires, Argentina, right after this.

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01:08:10.000 Hey, that's Drake.

01:08:25.000 Katherine Albrecht here.

01:08:26.000 Happy to be with you.

01:08:27.000 Filling in for Alex Jones while he takes a much-deserved rest.

01:08:31.000 Let's hope he actually gets a little bit of rest.

01:08:33.000 I've heard that guy is a round-the-clock workaholic, but it is nice to see him taking just a little bit of time off.

01:08:39.000 You may know me as the RFID lady, or the Spy Chips, co-author of the best-selling book, Spy Chips.

01:08:45.000 I've been a regular guest on Alex's show, also on Coast to Coast AM, and of course I host my own daily radio program on the Genesis Communications Network.

01:08:53.000 It comes on not long after Alex's show, and I am here filling in for him as we take on the New World Order.

01:09:01.000 Speaking of the New World Order, one of the key components of the New World Order, if you happen to live somewhere outside of the United States of America, is the power structure that is being wielded by the United States of America.

01:09:15.000 Sometimes it's helpful to get a perspective from outside the U.S.

01:09:18.000 and see what exactly does U.S.

01:09:20.000 foreign policy and what exactly does U.S.

01:09:22.000 economic policy do to other countries around the globe and what can it tell us About the nature of the beast that we are fighting.

01:09:31.000 Well, joining us this hour to talk about all of that is my guest, Adrian Salbucci.

01:09:36.000 He is an international consultant and author and a speaker on geopolitics, economics and risk management.

01:09:43.000 He joins us live today from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

01:09:46.000 Welcome, Adrian.

01:09:47.000 Hello.

01:09:48.000 Hello, Catherine.

01:09:50.000 It's a pleasure to be on the show again.

01:09:52.000 Well it's great to have you on and I especially want to thank you for really bringing to not just our attention but to the attention of the world what is going on right there in Argentina.

01:10:03.000 I want to get into this hour your new article that just came out in Russia Times called the US is the Don Corleone of international politics kind of likening the US to the mob.

01:10:14.000 Before we dive into that topic though can you give us a sense what's going on down there in Argentina for Americans who may not be aware of your economic circumstances and maybe help tie that in with what's going on worldwide?

01:10:27.000 Well, yes.

01:10:28.000 Argentina, first of all, has had chronic financial and sovereign debt problems for decades.

01:10:34.000 I would say at least 30, 35 years.

01:10:37.000 We have been imposed a sovereign debt that is unpayable.

01:10:41.000 In other words, there is no way that the country can ever pay for it.

01:10:44.000 Which means that we are in the chains of a debt system.

01:10:48.000 And what is a debt system?

01:10:50.000 It's a system whereby the creditor will always have the debtor trapped, knowing that the debtor cannot pay back.

01:10:57.000 And not being able to pay back, that means that he will be an eternal debtor.

01:11:01.000 He will always be owing money.

01:11:03.000 And it is that sovereign debt which has been the key component ensuring that Argentina is always fully controlled by the global power elite, who run the whole debt system and who run the whole banking, private banking institutions and the multilateral institutions like the World Bank, the IMF, or even the Federal Reserve in America as a special example, to ensure that the system will always continue.

01:11:28.000 It just rolled over on and on, and that makes full control of Argentina possible.

01:11:32.000 And, you know, we can liken it, I suppose, to the indentured servitude, that there were many immigrants who came to the U.S., back at the turn of the 20th century, or even earlier in the 1800s, who kind of signed up and said, listen, in exchange for letting me get on the ship and coming to the States, I'll work for you for 7 years, 10 years, etc.

01:11:52.000 And while they were working, we just in the last hour played a song about the company store.

01:11:56.000 I owe my soul to the company store.

01:11:58.000 While they were working, you know, the food and the roof over their heads and their clothing all got tacked onto that.

01:12:05.000 And in some cases you end up with people who are in just a perpetual cycle of debt, of never breaking free.

01:12:11.000 We see the same thing going on with people today who are on the treadmill of paying off their credit cards at 20% interest rates.

01:12:18.000 When right now you can't even put your money in a bank for 1% these days, and yet they're still running on that treadmill to pay off that debt.

01:12:25.000 That's more on the individual level, which I think most people can relate to.

01:12:29.000 When we start getting into debt, Adrienne, on the national level, what does that look like for a nation?

01:12:35.000 We know that if my credit card debt is too much, then I have to take all the money that I earn every month to pay it, and I can't feed my kids.

01:12:43.000 What does it do to a nation to be in that level of debt?

01:12:47.000 Well, even personal credit card debt will theoretically stop when you die, so at least death is an escape point.

01:12:54.000 However, in nations, since there is legal continuity for literally decades and centuries, a country will continue having to pay a foreign debt, perhaps incurred 10, 20, 50, even 100 years back.

01:13:08.000 Which means that what it all boils down to is that the government, the local government, More than acting as a sovereign government, we'll act as an agency that retains the work of the local people for and on behalf of the global power elite.

01:13:25.000 Let me explain that a little bit further.

01:13:26.000 America calls it democracy.

01:13:29.000 But what it is, in fact, it is that the whole banking system, one of its key factors, is to control the electoral system, to control political campaigning, to control candidates, to control the whole so-called democratic system, so that always somebody is elected into power as President, Prime Minister, or in Congress, that will ensure that no matter what happens, the sovereign debt will always be paid.

01:13:55.000 It will always have top priority, and as long as the local government does that, the global power elite is happy.

01:14:01.000 When they stop doing that, then you have coups that are orchestrated, you have invasions, or you have the dreadful things that happened to world leaders in different parts of the world throughout the last century, throughout the last decades.

01:14:12.000 So basically what America or the Europeans call democracy is merely the system that is used by the banking elite to control countries.

01:14:22.000 And every country like Argentina will just end up having the best democracy that money can buy, which is no democracy whatsoever, because money is not democratic, nor should it be.

01:14:33.000 So, when you talk about Argentina, and I remember even as a child hearing about how Argentinian money was just valueless, I mean, tacking on zeros, that was the first time I ever heard about it.

01:14:44.000 Now we hear about Zimbabwe and other countries for other reasons having a similar problem.

01:14:48.000 Argentina seems to have been particularly hard hit by this inflationary cycle in which all of your savings as citizens of Argentina become worthless, all of your pensions become worthless, How does that fit into the cycle that you're talking about, debt to the international bankers?

01:15:05.000 Well look, I'm 60 years old and in my adult life I've gone through three military coups, a lost war against Britain, and at least four financial collapses.

01:15:18.000 The last two have been horrendous.

01:15:19.000 We had hyperinflation in 1989 and a complete banking and monetary collapse in 2001-2002.

01:15:24.000 2001 2002 just to give you an idea.

01:15:28.000 Since 1970 we have knocked off 13 zeros to our currency.

01:15:34.000 So one peso of today, which will only buy you, that won't even buy you a bus ride in downtown Buenos Aires, in 1970 was equivalent to 10 trillion pesos, which would have purchased Argentina two or three times over.

01:15:47.000 So that's just to give you an example of what really hyperinflation is all about.

01:15:52.000 The way it works, unfortunately, and in the case of Argentina it's particularly sad, because most of our ongoing sovereign debt was incurred by an illegal military and civilian regime that took over power in 1976 by force.

01:16:08.000 Getting rid of the democratically elected government.

01:16:11.000 That was in March 1976.

01:16:12.000 Starting then is when our sovereign debt problem started.

01:16:17.000 And today, we could easily show that that is debt that was incurred illegally.

01:16:23.000 And there's a legal precedent called odious debt.

01:16:26.000 Odious debt, which goes back to the beginning of last century.

01:16:29.000 And Argentina could easily trigger that and repudiate that debt.

01:16:33.000 But we need an Argentine government, president or congress to do that.

01:16:37.000 And the so-called democracy system works so well that over the past 40 years, not one single Argentinian president, not one single Argentinian Congress has had the courage of saying, we're not going to pay that debt, we're going to declare it odious debt, and you, Citicorp, you, JPMorgan Chase, you, Goldman Sachs, have to prove to me that you did not know that that ongoing regime was absolutely dreadful and that they were killing people, and that you were not aware of all the mischief that you were doing.

01:17:04.000 Now, there is a legal precedent for that, But unfortunately, as I say, the democratic system for them works so well that no Argentinian would ever take the initiative of doing that, at least not from the government.

01:17:15.000 Now, talk to us about your current president there in Argentina.

01:17:19.000 Mrs. Kirchner, she is the wife of the former president, Nestor Kirchner, who handpicked her as his successor.

01:17:27.000 Mr. Kirchner died about two, three years back, two and a half years back.

01:17:31.000 And she has been totally functional to the global power elite. 0.98

01:17:35.000 Because although she calls herself a Peronist, that means that she is aligned theoretically to the ideology of Juan Perón and Evita Perón, who are very much revered here.

01:17:45.000 ...as emotional symbols.

01:17:46.000 In actual fact, she is not a Peronist at all, but she's a Social Democrat.

01:17:50.000 And social democracy is particularly dangerous because it's sort of a three-way trap.

01:17:55.000 On all social and cultural issues, it is very left-wing.

01:18:00.000 On political issues, it is very centered.

01:18:02.000 It will respect the global power elite 100%.

01:18:05.000 And on economic and financial matters, it is right-wing capitalist.

01:18:08.000 It will always pay, pay, and pay.

01:18:10.000 So unfortunately, she is very functional, and she has made different somersaults on various matters. 0.92

01:18:16.000 But right now in Argentina, we have high inflation and a total prohibition for Argentine citizens to buy foreign currency because the government is gobbling up Every single dollar you can imagine, in order to what?

01:18:30.000 In order to pay the bankers sovereign debt.

01:18:32.000 So, more functional to the global banking elite than that, it's hard to imagine.

01:18:37.000 Right, and I experienced that actually in Mexico in the 1980s when they had their huge inflationary cycle.

01:18:43.000 We were not allowed to cash out our pesos for dollars.

01:18:46.000 So I know what that's like to watch the money that you have in the bank, your hard-earned money.

01:18:50.000 And I was only down there a year as a television co-host in my teens.

01:18:54.000 I sat there and watched my money become absolutely worthless.

01:18:57.000 Thousands of dollars just, you know, going poof before my very eyes.

01:19:00.000 So I know exactly how that works.

01:19:02.000 I want to talk, yeah, it's a painful, it's a very painful experience.

01:19:08.000 Is that coming for the US, Adrian?

01:19:10.000 Are we about to see the same thing happen to our currency here?

01:19:13.000 Well, yes, and that might tie into a very interesting and highly complex problem which is hardly ever addressed in any of the mainstream media, and that is that if the ongoing oil markets, basically we have two oil markets, the New York Mercantile Exchange and and then the London market and to a lesser extent the Dubai market.

01:19:33.000 If there were to be a fourth oil market, for example, Iran, that started trading not in U.S. dollars, which is the monopoly currency for the oil market, but started trading in other currencies, and all the dollars that are circulating in international markets were to go back to the States, Hold and all the dollars that are circulating in international markets were to go We're coming up.

01:19:53.000 Hold that thought.

01:19:54.000 When we come back, I want to talk about a fourth oil market with my guest Adrian Salbucci, live from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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01:25:28.000 All right, let's get back to our conversation with Adrian Salbucci.

01:25:30.000 Adrian, before the break, you were explaining to us about the price of oil and the different oil markets, that if one of them were to pull out of using dollars and switch, for example, to Iranian currency, that we'd be in trouble.

01:25:43.000 How would that work?

01:25:45.000 Well, let's first say something which is rather obvious, but a lot of people seem to lose sight of.

01:25:51.000 What is inflation?

01:25:52.000 Inflation is when the monetary authority issues too much money that does not tally with economic growth.

01:25:59.000 So you have inflation, even hyperinflation.

01:26:01.000 When that happens to a country like Argentina, you can sort of seal the country off, the way they did with us in 1989, and all that hyperinflation is your problem, Argentina.

01:26:10.000 You deal with it, which is fine.

01:26:12.000 When the United States of America, however, issues a lot of currency, they don't call it inflation, they call it Quantitative Easing 1, Quantitative Easing 2, Quantitative Easing 3, when they issue too much money, that money does not stay in America, but is spread the world over.

01:26:28.000 Very especially, or one of the key factors, is the oil market.

01:26:32.000 So the oil market is all done, most of it, abroad, and it is done in United States dollars and U.S.

01:26:37.000 dollar denominated financial instruments.

01:26:40.000 However, if a fourth oil market were to open in Iran, as they have been threatening to do since 2004, and I'm not saying it's going to be handled in Iranian currency, but maybe in euros, maybe in Russian rubles, maybe in schwans, maybe in a basket maybe in Russian rubles, maybe in schwans, maybe in a basket of these currencies, and it were to become a major oil market, it would replace the dollar to a great

01:27:06.000 Those dollars would tend to flow back into the United States, and lo and behold, that's when America would all of a sudden catch a heavy bout of inflation and even hyperinflation.

01:27:16.000 So that, I think, explains why the American leadership, both public and private, are so, so very, very, very nervous over Iran.

01:27:26.000 It's not about weapons of mass destruction.

01:27:29.000 It's not about the nuclear program.

01:27:31.000 It's about a new oil market and how the oil market will continue faring.

01:27:35.000 At least if the dollar has to be phased out, they want to do it on their terms, on America's terms, and on the Iranians' terms, which is something I can understand. 0.98

01:27:44.000 So this oil market, give us a sense just globally, how much of the global economy is accounted for by oil today?

01:27:52.000 Oh, something like 20% of the entire economy.

01:27:54.000 It is one way or another related to oil, related to oil refining, related to petroleum hydrocarbon products.

01:28:02.000 And it's not just... This is a problem that the Western mindset has.

01:28:06.000 We tend to think with silo mentalities.

01:28:09.000 The oil market is X zillion dollars.

01:28:11.000 Okay, we just look at it financially.

01:28:14.000 The oil market is geopolitics.

01:28:16.000 It is military strategy.

01:28:18.000 And you have countries like Russia that are very much aware of that.

01:28:21.000 You have countries like China that are very much aware of that.

01:28:24.000 And China does not, contrary to Russia, China does not have its own oil.

01:28:28.000 That's why it purchases a lot of Iranian oil.

01:28:31.000 Something like 12% of its oil imports into China are Iranian oil.

01:28:36.000 That's why neither China... 0.95

01:28:38.000 Nor Russia, for different reasons, are going to allow the Western powers to overrun Iran the way they allowed them to overrun Iraq, although they didn't like it, or Libya last year.

01:28:48.000 So there are a lot of factors that have to be taken into account, which are not just financial and economic.

01:28:55.000 Yeah, and you know, whenever they start talking to us about regime change and we just want to liberate those people over there in X country, you always have to ask yourself a little bit deeper, what is the economic consideration?

01:29:07.000 Would you agree with that?

01:29:09.000 Yes, and let me give you an example.

01:29:11.000 In November 2002, you remember that Saddam Hussein from Iraq lost the first Gulf War against George Bush Senior.

01:29:18.000 There were UN sanctions, and those UN sanctions later on allowed him to trade $1 billion a year for medicines, oil for medicines and for food.

01:29:27.000 He did that year after year, and then in 2002, November to be exact, Saddam Hussein decided to sell that $1 billion in oil in Euros.

01:29:36.000 Well, if you remember rightly, in March 2003, Saddam Hussein had some problem with the United States.

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01:33:03.000 Don't know much about history.

01:33:11.000 Don't know much biology.

01:33:15.000 Don't know much about a science book.

01:33:19.000 Don't know much about the French I took.

01:33:22.000 But I do know that I love you.

01:33:28.000 Yeah, I don't know much about history.

01:33:34.000 They don't really teach us much about history, do they?

01:33:37.000 Especially not 20th century history, because it implicates a lot of people who are still living and breathing today.

01:33:45.000 Let's name one name specifically, and that would be Kissinger.

01:33:49.000 I want to get into that just a little bit.

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01:33:54.000 His new article out in Russia Times is called, The U.S.

01:33:57.000 is the Don Corleone of international politics.

01:34:01.000 Making that reference to being kind of like the mob out there, putting the pressure, leaning on other countries and our foreign policy certainly has had a big impact on other nations.

01:34:12.000 Also that of the international banking regime, which is the puppet master that controls the U.S., which then turns around and controls the other countries around the globe militarily.

01:34:22.000 And in other ways.

01:34:23.000 So let's get back to our conversation.

01:34:24.000 I am going to open up the phone lines here in just a couple of moments, but I do want to give Adrian Salbucci an opportunity to tell us the big picture.

01:34:31.000 I want to remind you that you are listening to Dr. Katherine Albrecht.

01:34:35.000 I'm filling in for Alex Jones today.

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01:35:10.000 All right, let's get back to our conversation.

01:35:11.000 Adrienne, before the break, we were talking about the first and second wars over in Iraq with Saddam Hussein.

01:35:18.000 And my question for you was, should we really believe this story that we were told, or the official story, that Saddam Hussein was just a really mean tyrant and the U.S.

01:35:29.000 just doesn't like really mean tyrants and wants to protect the people?

01:35:34.000 Well, not really.

01:35:35.000 Obviously, I mean, geopolitics, or Machtpolitik, as the Germans would say, is based on permanent interests of every nation.

01:35:42.000 And I think the United States does it just as Britain does it, and just as every serious nation should do so.

01:35:47.000 Russia, China, even Argentina.

01:35:49.000 We don't do that.

01:35:50.000 That's our problem and our mistake.

01:35:52.000 We can't blame anybody else for that.

01:35:54.000 However, in the case of Saddam Hussein, he was definitely most instrumental to the United States.

01:35:59.000 It was only when he disobeyed orders in 1990 with the invasion of Kuwait that he was ousted.

01:36:06.000 And although he was not ousted then, he ended up being ousted by George Bush Jr.

01:36:10.000 many years later.

01:36:11.000 And it all had to do with this oil market system using the dollar or trying to ...to move away from the dollar.

01:36:18.000 Just compare with what happened in 2011 with Libya.

01:36:21.000 Muammar Gaddafi was about to introduce the gold dinar, which was going to be a gold-backed currency to be used for North African oil and he was...

01:36:32.000 assassinated on public television with Hillary Clinton laughing and saying, "We came, we saw he died," and chuckling her way through on CBS News.

01:36:40.000 So Iran knows that they run the same risk, but there's a big difference.

01:36:45.000 Their backs are covered.

01:36:47.000 And that is where the mainstream Western media really renders such a bad service to all the Western world and the whole planet, because they're trying to make us believe that Iran is a danger because of the nuclear program, And yet, you just played that beautiful song, Don't Know Much About History.

01:37:04.000 People don't know much about history.

01:37:05.000 Iran has not invaded or attacked anybody in over 120 years.

01:37:10.000 However, Iran was invaded by Britain in World War I.

01:37:13.000 It was invaded by Britain and the former Soviet Union in World War II because they needed Persian oil to make war against Hitler.

01:37:21.000 When the Iranians finally have a democratically elected Prime Minister, Mohammad Mossadegh, who nationalized in 1951 the Anglo-Iranian oil company, Today known as British Petroleum.

01:37:32.000 The CIA and the British MI6 orchestrated a coup and he was ousted.

01:37:37.000 And the Iranians were imposed the horrendous and authoritarian regime of the Shah of Persia, Reza Pahlavi.

01:37:44.000 When they finally got rid of him with the revolution of the Ayatollahs in 1979, what did America and the Western powers do?

01:37:50.000 They financed and they gave Saddam Hussein, who was their boy, All the necessary weapons to make a war of attrition that lasted eight years and cost one million Iranian lives. 0.84

01:38:02.000 That was from 1981 to 1988.

01:38:03.000 It was only when Saddam Hussein disobeyed and did the Kuwait trick that he was finally ousted. 0.77

01:38:10.000 But as long as these little dictators do what they are told, they can stay in power all they want.

01:38:14.000 It happened with us with the military junta.

01:38:16.000 It was very pro-American until General Galtieri, you remember him, got up one day and said, I'm going to invade the Falkland Islands.

01:38:23.000 So he had to be ousted.

01:38:24.000 That's Argentina we're speaking about, and my guest this hour, Adrian Salbucci, international consultant, author, and speaker on geopolitics, economics, and risk management.

01:38:34.000 He joins us live from Buenos Aires, Argentina, one of the victims of the multinational bankers, certainly with economic hardships over many, many decades.

01:38:46.000 Before we open up the phone lines, let me go ahead and do that now.

01:38:50.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:38:51.000 Adrienne, let me ask you, just in a nutshell, why do you call the U.S.

01:38:55.000 the John Corleone of international politics?

01:38:58.000 Well, I think we have to be very fair in the following, because a lot of people tend to think, especially here in Latin America, oh, it's the Americans, it's the Yankees, Yankee, go home.

01:39:08.000 It is not the fault of the American people.

01:39:11.000 The problem is, and that is something that I think Alex Jones has done a great job, and you yourself, Catherine, in helping people understand this, there is a supranational global power elite, which includes the mega-bankers and the mega-oil companies.

01:39:24.000 Which is embedded, embedded inside the United States, Britain and other European countries, but especially embedded inside the United States because of your military prowess and your power.

01:39:35.000 But although it is inside the United States, it is not part of the United States.

01:39:40.000 It does not look after, doesn't even care about the American national interest.

01:39:43.000 Although it might end up occupying the White House and your Congress and most of your media and your banking system.

01:39:49.000 So it is not really the American people who are at fault, but rather, who have no choice but to select between Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola every time there is an election.

01:39:58.000 But it is really this global power elite embedded inside, and that acts like a mafia. 0.93

01:40:03.000 It's like a parasite. 1.00

01:40:04.000 It's like a parasite.

01:40:05.000 You know, I think about these ants that get infected with this fungus, and the fungus makes the ants march up to the very, very tip-top of a tree and then die, so they can dispel the fungal spores from the top of the tree.

01:40:18.000 And the ant is just trying to live its own life, but once this thing gets a hold of it, the thing drives it to its own interests, and it really does feel parasitic.

01:40:27.000 What you're talking about, this thing that is controlling U.S.

01:40:30.000 money, the U.S.

01:40:31.000 economy, the American people, the American debt, and especially the American military to accomplish its own goals.

01:40:39.000 They've got us climbing up to the top of the tree, and they don't care if we wind up, you know, sticking up to the top of the tree like these little ants with With our teeth embedded in the wood while we die, as long as it gets to continue its own proliferation, and that's really what we're seeing.

01:40:53.000 All right, let me go ahead and open up the phone lines.

01:40:55.000 Adrian Salbucci is my guest this hour.

01:40:58.000 I'm of course your host, Dr. Kathryn Albrecht.

01:41:00.000 I am filling in for Alex Jones, who's taking a much-needed break this week.

01:41:04.000 And let's go directly to the line in Connecticut and say hello to George.

01:41:07.000 George, you're on with Adrian Salbucci.

01:41:09.000 Go right ahead.

01:41:11.000 Hi, I was wondering how you would see this Monster from the inside, this parasite, would try to take down the United States, or is this actually against their own interests, because so many people are waking up, that maybe it might be more dangerous for them to take the system down than try to prolong it, but how would they probably take it down, and how do we get rid of them, from your point of view, since you see it from the outside, sometimes you can see clear from the outside than you can from the inside?

01:41:40.000 It's a very good question, George.

01:41:42.000 Zbigniew Brzezinski, who is the ideologue of the Trilateral Commission and who was Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, he said at the Council on Foreign Relations about two and a half years ago that the main risk of the global power elite is the political awakening of the masses of people the world over, including the United States.

01:42:02.000 That's why it's so important for them to have full control of the media.

01:42:07.000 So that we see the world through their eyes and not through reality.

01:42:11.000 As I was saying, we have to be convinced and talking to believing that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

01:42:17.000 That Iran is a hell of a risk and a danger because of its nuclear program. 1.00

01:42:22.000 But they completely ignore the fact that the only country with weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East, is the state of Israel.

01:42:30.000 Which, unfortunately, the Israeli lobby, the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee, for example, has huge leverage inside the United States, inside its government, inside the banking industry, and inside the media.

01:42:41.000 So probably the awakening of political awareness is the key point definitely around it.

01:42:46.000 They know that they are playing with fire.

01:42:48.000 Because if the people really awaken, you Americans, for example, might take back America. 0.95

01:42:53.000 We're trying to take back Argentina, but Argentina is a tiny country.

01:42:57.000 We have no military power.

01:42:58.000 We're really not that important.

01:43:00.000 We are earmarked for something else, for future occupation of our huge territory, down south in Patagonia especially.

01:43:07.000 But America has THE military power of the world.

01:43:12.000 So it is very important for them to control you, and they're bound to get very aggressive and very violent in order to achieve their end.

01:43:19.000 So if anything, I would say that America is such an important nation right now that you probably are running one of the worst risks of any of us.

01:43:27.000 You mean the worst risks in terms of being a population that's waking up?

01:43:31.000 Yes, that's dangerous from the point of view of the global power elite, the CFR people, the Trilateral Commission people, the Bilderberg people, that is very dangerous.

01:43:40.000 Same in Europe, where you see people are waking up in Italy, in Ireland, in Greece, in Spain, even in the UK and in France, that this whole banker system is absolutely criminal.

01:43:52.000 It's absolute mafia.

01:43:53.000 They have the same codes as Don Corleone, as Masery, as Freemasonry, and as all these other secret and semi-secret organizations that unfortunately are wrecking so much havoc nowadays, including the Vatican.

01:44:05.000 I'm not saying the church, I'm just saying the earthly Vatican, who are as good or as bad as the men who run it.

01:44:12.000 Let me ask you this, Adrienne.

01:44:13.000 In terms of national sovereignty, and I think George's question speaks to this, we are Americans.

01:44:19.000 You are in Argentina.

01:44:20.000 We've got people who really are looking to their national governments to make these kinds of changes or to protect them against this global encroachment.

01:44:32.000 Is it in the desire of the globalists to eliminate national sovereignty altogether so they don't have to futz around with all these individual nation-states?

01:44:41.000 Absolutely.

01:44:42.000 If you look at Foreign Affairs, which is the journal of the Council on Foreign Relations, in their April 1974 issue, April 1974, you had one of their academics, Richard Gardner, saying that instead of going at an all-out attack against national sovereignty, we have to go roundabout and end run, he called it, destroying it and eroding it piece by piece so that it falls on its own.

01:45:06.000 And they've achieved that, not just in a country like Argentina, but even in the United States, where I think it helps a lot to address George's question.

01:45:14.000 If we redefine the President of the United States, the Prime Minister of Britain, or the President of Argentina, not as sovereign Presidents or Prime Ministers, but as Chief Executive Officers, as the CEO.

01:45:25.000 Obama and Bush before him are the CEO of America, Cameron is the CEO of Britain, Mrs. Kirchherr is the CEO of Argentina.

01:45:32.000 Because that will lead you to ask two questions.

01:45:34.000 If my president is the CEO of the country, who is on the board of directors above him?

01:45:39.000 And who are the shareholders who really own the country?

01:45:42.000 And that is where you start running into the global power elite, and that makes a lot of cliques come about together and people start saying, oh, now I get it.

01:45:51.000 When you vote for Obama or Mitt Romney, you're just being given the final choice.

01:45:56.000 Coca-Cola or Pepsi-Cola?

01:45:57.000 And that's no choice at all.

01:45:59.000 It is not.

01:46:00.000 And when we tried to have an alternative, I think Ron Paul had probably more popular support in this country than any candidate, at least in my lifetime.

01:46:08.000 We very clearly saw how we were not allowed to have a public choice.

01:46:13.000 And I think that was a wake-up call for a lot of people.

01:46:15.000 I think to recognize that we really are not a democratic country, that we really don't, on the popular level, determine who the president is going to be.

01:46:23.000 I think that was a wake-up call.

01:46:25.000 And maybe a bit disillusioning for some folks.

01:46:28.000 All right, George, thank you for the call.

01:46:29.000 I want to see if we can get in another call before the break.

01:46:32.000 Let's go to Doris, who's been listening in Tennessee. 0.94

01:46:34.000 Hi, Doris, you're on with Adrienne Salbucci and Catherine Albrecht. 0.93

01:46:37.000 Go right ahead.

01:46:38.000 Yes, I wanted to ask the gentleman about China and the kickstone pipeline.

01:46:48.000 We know Obama is not in control of this, but I'm going to use Obama's name, excuse me.

01:46:57.000 The Keystone Pipeline he stopped.

01:47:00.000 And we know from Bible prophecy there's going to be a war filed with China.

01:47:05.000 China's going to play a big part in it, and Russia.

01:47:09.000 So, when he does begin to drill and let the Keystone Pipeline go through, will he sell it, will he let us use it here, or will it go to China?

01:47:24.000 And will he even be the person in charge of that?

01:47:28.000 Adrian, when we're talking about international pipelines and large quantities of oil flowing, is that really going to be a kind of a debate or maybe an economic behind-the-scenes underground war between the U.S.

01:47:42.000 and China?

01:47:43.000 It sounds as though we're on opposite ends of the power structure there.

01:47:47.000 How does China fit in with all of this?

01:47:49.000 Absolutely.

01:47:50.000 China has been around for thousands of years, and they have thousands of years of being an imperial power, even though at times they themselves were colonized by France and Britain, for example, in the 19th century and the early 20th century.

01:48:02.000 The Chinese know how to bide their time.

01:48:05.000 When it comes to oil, for example, the Chinese who have little oil are purchasing all of their oil, or a lot of it, from Russia on the one hand, and from Iran on the other hand.

01:48:16.000 Now, oil is a key issue, no doubt about it, and it has sort of grouped countries together.

01:48:21.000 That's why you have China and Russia working together on many issues, Syria and Iran, no doubt, and the Middle East in general.

01:48:28.000 And you also have countries like India and Pakistan.

01:48:31.000 Now, another thing that the Wall Street Journal, and it ties in with Doris's question, another thing that the Wall Street Journal and the mainstream media don't tell you, and this came out only on 2nd March, the day before yesterday, is that India and Iran are negotiating a pact, a treaty, whereby Iran would is that India and Iran are negotiating a pact, a treaty, whereby Iran would sell oil to India and India would pay in gold, which is the same thing as moving the oil market away

01:48:57.000 They would start paying in gold, and Iran has already told the Indians, were we even willing to accept rupees, and they told the Japanese, we're willing to accept yen.

01:49:05.000 But it goes back to what we were saying at the beginning of the program, Oil is not just about money.

01:49:10.000 It's not just about the price of oil.

01:49:12.000 It's about geopolitics and geo-strategy.

01:49:15.000 And that's where we have to understand that the Chinese and the Russians are biding their time very well.

01:49:20.000 And unfortunately, America...

01:49:22.000 and the Western powers have made mistake after mistake after mistake for having done the wrong thing in the wrong place at the wrong time, which explains why America, Europe, and Israel are so hysterical in their foreign policy, to say, in a way, because they know that their window of opportunity is shutting down fast.

01:49:38.000 I have a friend with...

01:49:40.000 Yeah, I want to thank Doris for the call, and I just want to ask you quickly, when we're talking about the international bankers and you referred to the nations as being CEOs, the presidents, What about China?

01:49:51.000 Is China also under the thumb of the same global board, or are they under a different... on that global scale, if you were to see the board of directors, do they also control China?

01:50:04.000 I would venture to say that the Chinese sit on the board.

01:50:07.000 That's why it's so very interesting.

01:50:09.000 Because of course you have the global banking system inside China.

01:50:13.000 They've been in there for years.

01:50:15.000 Think of it.

01:50:16.000 HSBC, the Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, was born almost in China during the Opium Wars.

01:50:21.000 That's where they were born in the middle of the 19th century.

01:50:25.000 And their leverage, same with Jardine Matheson and other major British banking and financial institutions.

01:50:31.000 They've been there for centuries.

01:50:32.000 But the Chinese know that Politics is not black or white.

01:50:36.000 It's not good guys and bad guys.

01:50:38.000 The West tends to present everything like Tweety Bird and Sylvester Cad.

01:50:42.000 Good guys and bad guys.

01:50:43.000 The Chinese know that reality is somewhere in between.

01:50:47.000 That truth lies in some shade of grey.

01:50:49.000 So they do negotiate.

01:50:51.000 Let's pick that up when we come back.

01:50:53.000 I've got a bunch of callers as well.

01:50:55.000 We'll try to get to your calls right after this.

01:50:56.000 I'm Catherine Albrecht filling in for Alex Jones.

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01:54:21.000 I'm going to try to get through all these phone calls.

01:54:23.000 We had quite a number of them with people calling in to speak to my guest, Adrian Salbucci, joining us from Argentina, where he is an international consultant and also an expert on geopolitics and economics.

01:54:36.000 Let's go directly back to those phone lines.

01:54:38.000 And let's see, we got Kay on the line in New Jersey.

01:54:41.000 Hello, Kay.

01:54:43.000 Yes, hello.

01:54:45.000 I had a couple of questions, one for you and one for Adrian.

01:54:51.000 All right, let's see if we can get to him.

01:54:54.000 Go right ahead.

01:54:56.000 Yes, number one for Adrian was would it not be a feasible idea to kind of disconnect from the elite scheme by just not paying for anything or not going to the bank or not paying taxes I think there are enough people that are awake, and you can prove that with the whole gun grab thing, to possibly produce some type of significant impact by disconnecting from the system.

01:55:24.000 And also, would it really be an actual thing that could possibly work, living completely on cash in today's modern world anyhow?

01:55:38.000 May I answer that?

01:55:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:55:40.000 This idea of somehow disconnecting or living off the grid.

01:55:44.000 I love that idea, and a lot of people are doing that, not just in your country, but in my country and the world over.

01:55:49.000 The problem being that normally most people are sort of scared and they say, well, if I don't pay my light bill, if I don't do this with the bank, my whole life is going to be turned upside down.

01:55:58.000 And maybe it will to a great extent.

01:56:00.000 What we will probably need in America and here is for a very serious crisis to really hit us.

01:56:06.000 So it's not just some people who wake up, but everybody who's going to have to wake up.

01:56:10.000 Because when the ship starts to sink, nobody can say, oh, I'll just keep sleeping it through.

01:56:15.000 Everybody has to get up and jump ship and try to save your lives.

01:56:18.000 It happened to us 10 years ago when the whole financial system collapsed and people went back to bartering, exchanging services, growing their own vegetables in their backyard and so forth.

01:56:29.000 But as the crisis subsided and the money started flowing again, because the global power elite know how to control these crises, most people just went back to business as usual.

01:56:38.000 So it's a combination of knowing how to take the opportunity of ongoing and increasingly serious crises on the one hand, And on the other hand, to do what Catherine and Alex are doing of increasing popular awareness to know that we are all sleeping on the Titanic.

01:56:53.000 Yeah, and I gotta say, I think that's one of the reasons why they're cracking down on things like organic food and food co-ops and natural organic milk because that is a way to make sure that you can't get out, that you can't drop out, that you can't be off the grid.

01:57:06.000 I think it's also why they're increasing the amount of surveillance and really putting those top-down controls on even what we can eat as a way to kind of slow that down.

01:57:15.000 Hey, thanks for the call.

01:57:16.000 Kay, I'm sorry I didn't get to your other question, but I do want to see if we can fit in our other callers.

01:57:21.000 Let's see, we've got Jim in California.

01:57:23.000 Jim, really quickly, go right ahead.

01:57:26.000 Yes, Adrienne, I want to just pick up on the idea of CEOs of countries, which presidents are.

01:57:36.000 The one president that wasn't the CEO of our country, John Fitzgerald Connerty, during 1960 to 1963, didn't play along with the big bankers that were his boss, and decided to print United States notes of the executive order.

01:57:50.000 And then shortly, not too long after that, he was taken out, and so were all the United States notes that were printed out there, about four and a half billion dollars worth.

01:57:59.000 So the conspiracy I mean, what do you think about that?

01:58:04.000 All I think we've been getting is bought-off commissions to give fake reports and a lot of misinformation in history.

01:58:13.000 Let's let Adrian address that.

01:58:15.000 Adrian, do you think that the JFK assassination tied into this whole CEO notion that he just said, I'm not going to play ball, and they said, fine, we'll take you out?

01:58:23.000 That was another false flag done inside the United States itself.

01:58:23.000 Absolutely.

01:58:28.000 As though, you know, some nut had killed John Kennedy.

01:58:31.000 John Kennedy in 1962 started issuing those famous U.S.

01:58:36.000 Treasury currency notes, which had the red seal instead of the green seal.

01:58:41.000 I gotta catch up.

01:58:42.000 We'll be back.

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02:00:24.000 And so rousing a low, I'm Katherine Albrecht, filling in for Alex Jones as he takes a well-deserved break.

02:00:38.000 Hey, I know he's going to come back 50 times, 50 times more on top of his game than ever, and that's saying a lot for Alex.

02:00:47.000 I had the absolute pleasure of being in Austin last week, actually traveling out to Texas.

02:00:53.000 I had an opportunity to actually broadcast my program from Alex's studio, also being a guest there I'm sure it's posted up on YouTube and elsewhere.

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02:01:04.000 You can also, I'm sure it's posted up on YouTube and elsewhere, my interview with Alex Jones sitting right there in the studio.

02:01:10.000 What an awesome experience that was and just the powerful amount of energy coming from all the listeners there.

02:01:16.000 So it is a privilege and an honor to be sitting here, sitting in, sitting here, sitting in for Alex Jones.

02:01:22.000 He will be back next week.

02:01:23.000 I'm going to be with you today, Tuesday, and Friday of this week.

02:01:28.000 I am Catherine Albrecht.

02:01:30.000 KMAShow.com is my website, or just my name, CatherineAlbrecht.com.

02:01:35.000 And you may know me as the co-author of the book Spy Chips.

02:01:37.000 I've been dealing with the issue of consumer privacy and implantable microchips and also those RFID spy chips that they want to put in all the products.

02:01:45.000 I've been doing that for a number of years.

02:01:46.000 A couple of websites just to bring to your attention.

02:01:49.000 ChipMeNot.com is the website that deals with the Cancer-causing aspect of implantable RFID microchips.

02:01:57.000 Spychips.com, the now kind of historical website for our book.

02:02:02.000 That's the book I co-authored with Liz McIntyre, the best-selling expose on RFID.

02:02:07.000 If you don't have a copy, consider getting a copy, even if it's from your local library.

02:02:11.000 It's not so much your money I'm after than your mind.

02:02:14.000 So please, if you haven't read Spy Chips yet, all the stuff we talked about there, it's all happening.

02:02:18.000 It's all happening today, right now.

02:02:20.000 So please check it out and stop by and visit my website.

02:02:24.000 Also, for folks who have been kind of following my story over the years, both through Alex's show and through my own, just wanted to let you guys know that the cancer, the breast cancer that I was battling, is in full remission as far as we know.

02:02:38.000 I will be getting some fairly important scan results today, and I will be reporting those on my radio show, which airs from 3 to 5 p.m.

02:02:46.000 Central Time at KMAShow.com.

02:02:48.000 Just a heads up on that.

02:02:50.000 Alright, well, let me, in this couple of minutes we have here, I want to just give you an update on what's going on in San Antonio, Texas.

02:02:57.000 The latest in the battle against RFID spy chips is taking place on the ground in the San Antonio schools.

02:03:05.000 This hour, or actually today's program, I opened talking about how they're coming for the kids.

02:03:11.000 And they're coming for the kids both with the new Justin Bieber Bill My Parents credit card.

02:03:17.000 This is a cash stored rewards card to encourage kids and kind of condition them to start using plastic numbered cards and numerical accounts instead of cash.

02:03:28.000 As I mentioned in the first hour of today's show, that card can be remotely viewed by parents.

02:03:35.000 Every time you make a purchase on it, it sends a little text and says, here's exactly what Johnny bought with his credit card, you know, with his little stored value card.

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02:03:47.000 And of course, gives the parents the ability to log on and simply cut off That kid's cash account altogether.

02:03:54.000 Well, that's just one form of conditioning that's being brought against our kids.

02:03:58.000 This hour, we're going to be joined by Lenore Scanese from Free Range Kids, talking about all the ways that the schools and the media at large are conditioning our children to accept, I would say almost being infantilized, being turned into Consumptive units, I guess, consumption units here, that do nothing but buy, spend, consume and obey.

02:04:22.000 And that conditioning begins very early on in the schools.

02:04:25.000 No other place are you going to find, that I'm aware of, where you have to ask the permission of an authority figure to even exercise your own bodily functions.

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02:04:36.000 Right.

02:04:36.000 Well, that's some powerful conditioning, folks.

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02:04:40.000 And it goes far beyond that.

02:04:42.000 We'll be joined by Lenore Skenazy in just a couple of minutes.

02:04:46.000 She's going to be telling us about how we've turned our kids into a bunch of helpless mambies when we come back. 1.00

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02:08:13.000 Hey, Catherine Albert here, filling in for Alex Jones. - What? 0.92

02:08:24.000 I want to talk about kids this hour.

02:08:26.000 Yeah, because kids really are the grown-ups of tomorrow, aren't they?

02:08:30.000 You know, we were kids not too long ago, those of us who are grown-ups now, and a lot of who we are today really is a product of what we were exposed to, both messages and propaganda, and just our experiences growing up.

02:08:44.000 I remember when I was a kid, I remember in seventh grade, I came up with this brilliant idea and I shut her down.

02:08:51.000 I don't know if all 7th graders come up with these terrible ideas, but I said, you know what we need to do if we want to eliminate racism?

02:08:57.000 We just need to make sure everybody marries somebody of a different race. 1.00

02:09:00.000 Don't even ask me where this is coming out of my little 7th grade brain, but my parents Thank the Lord, took me aside and said, you know, that's really a terrible idea.

02:09:10.000 And actually shamed me into sitting down and listening to why that was a bad idea.

02:09:15.000 Now, I'm not saying that, you know, I'm perfect.

02:09:17.000 I went through my period of thinking the government was the solution to the problems.

02:09:21.000 I've been through a lot of the same educational process that the listeners have gone through.

02:09:26.000 But there were parents in my life who could set me straight.

02:09:30.000 And I think nowadays it's becoming more of a challenge.

02:09:33.000 There is so much less interaction between kids and parents these days.

02:09:37.000 I recently read a study that said less than 30 minutes a week of meaningful conversation occurs between the average teenager and the average parent.

02:09:46.000 Less than 30 minutes a week.

02:09:49.000 Now, I want you to contrast that, say, with The Little House on the Prairie days.

02:09:53.000 If you haven't re-read those books recently, pull them off the shelf.

02:09:55.000 Re-read The Little House on the Prairie.

02:09:57.000 And you've got Laura, and you've got Mary, and you've got Ma, and you've got Pa.

02:10:01.000 And I'll tell you that there's a whole lot more than 30 minutes a week of back-and-forth sharing of values and even political conversation.

02:10:10.000 It all takes place there.

02:10:12.000 So as we increasingly turn over our kids to the little tiny screens with their thumbs moving around there, and as we turn over our kids to Facebook, and turn over our kids to the television, and especially turn our kids over to the government authorities that run the government schools, it's not a surprise that we get them back and they don't want to hear what we have to say.

02:10:31.000 Yeah, I shudder to think what would happen if my 7th grade self had I'd live today.

02:10:37.000 I don't know.

02:10:38.000 Scary thought.

02:10:39.000 All right, well, joining me this hour to talk about how we're infantilizing children and actually turning them into a bunch of mambies who do not have the ability to even find their way out of a paper bag, much less grow up into fully competent Mature, independent adults. 0.94

02:10:57.000 My guest this hour, Lenore Skenazy.

02:10:59.000 She is the author of the book and the blog Free Range Kids.

02:11:03.000 She's also the host of the Discovery TLC international television program called The World's Worst Mom.

02:11:10.000 That is tongue-in-cheek there.

02:11:11.000 She's actually a terrific mom. 0.91

02:11:13.000 Lenore Skenazy is a New York City columnist turned reality TV show host and she Ashley first gained notoriety or prominence or fame, if you would, by letting her nine-year-old son take the subway alone in New York. 0.97

02:11:28.000 Yikes.

02:11:28.000 All right, Lenore Skenazy, hello and welcome to the show.

02:11:33.000 Great to have you on.

02:11:34.000 So I want to talk, I know your story, letting your nine-year-old take the subway has a lot of people shuddering.

02:11:42.000 How could you allow a nine-year-old to actually go on the subway?

02:11:45.000 I can tell you though, after sort of engaging your message, which initially was really shocking to me, But after really sitting with it for the last couple of months, I see the world in a whole new way.

02:11:57.000 And I actually see the way that kids nowadays are not allowed to do anything.

02:12:02.000 Not allowed to go to the bathroom, not allowed... At Burger King, I see kids who want to go up and get a straw.

02:12:07.000 You know, we're talking like a 10-foot walk to the... No, honey, you could be snatched.

02:12:11.000 No, don't do it.

02:12:12.000 For God's sake, I want to see you live till you're a grown-up. 0.71

02:12:16.000 It's crazy!

02:12:18.000 It really is crazy.

02:12:21.000 I want to get into some specific stories that have been going on lately, but before we do that I just want to ask your opinion about all of this overprotective helicopter parenting.

02:12:31.000 What is it and how did we get started doing this kind of crazy treating kids like they were completely incompetent?

02:12:39.000 We think we're doing it out of, I mean, we actually are doing it out of love, but somehow it comes across like, I don't trust you to do anything.

02:12:46.000 I mean, just think about the words of when we take our kids to school today.

02:12:50.000 I mean, the fact is that we do take them to school today.

02:12:53.000 10% of kids, 11 actually.

02:12:55.000 Um, still walk to school.

02:12:57.000 And if you contrast that to, like, when we were growing up, it was always, you know, there was arrival, the bell rang, and then there was dismissal.

02:13:02.000 Yay! 0.99

02:13:03.000 The other bell rang.

02:13:04.000 And now it's drop off and pick up.

02:13:07.000 I mean, those are the two different times of the day.

02:13:09.000 And just inherent in that word change is the way we're thinking of kids.

02:13:13.000 They used to be able to get themselves to school.

02:13:16.000 They used to, the kids themselves used to be the crossing guards.

02:13:19.000 You know, I had a sixth grade crossing guard when I was in first grade.

02:13:23.000 And I married him, but that's another story.

02:13:26.000 And nowadays, it's drop-off and pick-up as if we don't think kids can do it, as if we think they're either too incompetent, too dreamy, or, of course, too endangered to do anything on their own.

02:13:38.000 Whenever I suggest that kids are, you know, they're happier when they go and they play outside and they meet up with up with a friend and they shoot some hoops or they make a hopscotch, if anybody still knows how to make a hopscotch, grid on the ground, everybody says, oh, but that's crazy.

02:13:52.000 And it's like, since when is that crazy?

02:13:55.000 Crime is down since the 70s, 80s, and 90s when most of today's parents were growing up.

02:14:01.000 And yet we act as if it's, you know, Nazi Germany out there.

02:14:05.000 And if the kids go out there, they're going to be snatched.

02:14:07.000 And I just have to say that the latest piece today on my blog is a father writing to me asking for advice, which I wish I had some advice to give him.

02:14:16.000 He let his six-year-old walk around.

02:14:18.000 You know, he taught her how to walk around the neighborhood, how to cross the street safely.

02:14:21.000 They're in some quiet little suburb.

02:14:23.000 And she was doing just that.

02:14:24.000 She walked to the store the other day, and the cops not only picked her up, they didn't even tell the dad that they had her.

02:14:32.000 The dad went looking for her when she didn't come home, went to the store, you know, that he'd sent her to.

02:14:37.000 The storekeeper said, oh, you know what?

02:14:40.000 She was taken by the cops.

02:14:42.000 So he went to the police station and there was his daughter behind bullet-proof glass and he was not allowed to talk to her or take her home for 20 minutes while the cops decided whether, you know, they called Child Protective Services and Child Protective Services reluctantly said, okay, he's allowed to take her back home.

02:15:01.000 But now he's being investigated by Child Protective Services all because he trusted his six-year-old to have a little bit of a life and you're not allowed to do that anymore.

02:15:11.000 Well, so, let me ask you, Lenore, what are the laws on that?

02:15:14.000 At what age, like, where is the cutoff?

02:15:20.000 Not only legally, but just in terms of common sense.

02:15:22.000 At what age can a kid, or do the cops, for example, consider a kid competent to just walk down the street?

02:15:29.000 Oh, well, those are two questions.

02:15:30.000 At what age is a kid competent, and at what age do cops consider a kid competent?

02:15:35.000 I don't even think it's just cops.

02:15:36.000 I think it's the whole generation of adults that has forgotten how much freedom they had at age six.

02:15:43.000 I have a book, gosh, somewhere on my extremely messy desk.

02:15:46.000 That was put out in the 80s and it was called Your Six-Year-Old.

02:15:50.000 And it just gave a list of things that a kid in first grade should be able to do.

02:15:54.000 They should be able to recognize colors and make some shapes and draw in the lines.

02:15:59.000 And they should be able to go, you know, four to eight blocks around the neighborhood and go visit a friend and go play in the park.

02:16:05.000 And this was normal and not exceptionally dangerous or weird or superstar behavior in the 80s.

02:16:13.000 It was just And the fact is that now, you know, the six-year-old gets picked up, it's, you know, you're asking what is the age that kids can do things.

02:16:23.000 I'd say at six, they are definitely capable, like I was and like you probably were, of going down the street, knocking on a neighbor's door and saying, let's play.

02:16:31.000 But there is no actual cutoff date for, like, when you're allowed to start being alone or doing something on your own or...

02:16:40.000 Only two states have an age even that is officially you're allowed to stay home alone.

02:16:45.000 What are those by the way?

02:16:47.000 One of them is I think it's Maryland is age 8 and Illinois has some really high age and I can't remember That doesn't surprise me, being Illinois, that's one of the... I'm from Illinois to begin with.

02:16:59.000 But those are also, I mean, there's always wiggle room on those too.

02:17:02.000 It's like if you're keeping your child in an endangered spot, you know, if there's drug paraphernalia around and there's no food in the kitchen and there's a fire, you know, I mean, it's different.

02:17:12.000 You know, the authorities get to interpret whether they found what you're doing dangerous or negligent or not.

02:17:19.000 And that's the crux of the problem, because to me, a six-year-old who has been trained by her parents, that the dad who wrote to me said, you know, we've taught her all about crossing the street, we've watched her, and we've, you know, gradually let her go, you know, longer distances after we've been, you know, certain that she is capable.

02:17:36.000 And to me, that sounds like very responsible parents.

02:17:39.000 But obviously, the cops are picking this kid up and not letting the dad talk to her. 0.98

02:17:43.000 Because they think of him as an irresponsible parent.

02:17:46.000 So if you have a, if the authorities have been sort of brainwashed to the idea that like no child is ever safe, no child is ever competent, every child needs 24-7 supervision or they are in danger, Then it becomes, you know, me saying, kids are very competent and let's look back in history and what about Huck Finn?

02:18:06.000 What about, like you were talking, Little House on the Prairie?

02:18:09.000 And them saying, what about that child who was kidnapped in 1987 from a bus stop?

02:18:14.000 And me saying, you know, we can always go to the worst case scenario, but that can't be our benchmark for every decision.

02:18:25.000 Well now, for all the parents out there listening going, oh my gosh, don't you know kids are being snatched off the street left and right?

02:18:32.000 What are you talking about?

02:18:33.000 And I'm sure there's a lot of parents out there with that exact response to this, because I have to admit, the first time I heard you speak, I had the same response.

02:18:40.000 What?

02:18:41.000 What?

02:18:41.000 No, no, because it's exactly opposite of what we've been told.

02:18:45.000 Give us some statistics.

02:18:46.000 How likely is it that a six-year-old walking down the street is going to be kidnapped?

02:18:50.000 Well, here's one of my favorite statistics.

02:18:53.000 First of all, the idea that we can have absolute, perfect safety, which has become the goal.

02:19:00.000 And I don't mind it being the goal, but it's elusive.

02:19:02.000 It will never happen, no matter what.

02:19:04.000 I mean, here in New York, we just had a tragic case yesterday where a whole family was killed by a hit-and-run.

02:19:09.000 I mean, you can never predict everything that's going to happen.

02:19:12.000 But in terms of the big fear, which is some stranger on the street snatching your kid, Um, this is such a rare crime that if you actually wanted it for some reason, if you wanted to know, like, how long would you have to keep your child outside unattended for that horrible scenario to be likely to happen, for them to be picked up, kidnapped by a stranger?

02:19:35.000 I don't know if I've asked you this one before.

02:19:37.000 If I have, then you'll know the answer, but how long do you think you would have to keep the kid outside for that to be likely to happen?

02:19:45.000 It's sort of like asking how many lottery tickets would you have to buy to be likely to win the lottery.

02:19:50.000 I'm going to give the guests, or the listeners, this break to think that over.

02:19:54.000 Okay, great.

02:19:55.000 We're coming up in a break.

02:19:56.000 Lenora Skanazy is my guest, and the question hanging in the air here, how long would you have to leave a kid out to be kidnapped?

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02:26:16.000 All right, let's get back to the question that's been burning in everyone's minds.

02:26:19.000 Lenore, your question was, if you had a six-year-old walking in the street, how long would it take for that six-year-old to be How long would they have to be out there to be statistically likely to be kidnapped?

02:26:30.000 And I guess the average answer would be, I don't know, three, four hours, seven hours.

02:26:35.000 What is the answer?

02:26:36.000 Think, Iron.

02:26:37.000 Think, Iron.

02:26:37.000 And it's how long would they have to be out there to be statistically likely to be kidnapped?

02:26:43.000 And the answer is 750,000 years.

02:26:49.000 How do you get that?

02:26:50.000 750,000 years that a kid would have to be... As a bad numbers person, I had Warwick Cairns do the number crunching for me, looking at the FBI statistics on kidnapping in America and also how many kids there are.

02:27:07.000 I don't know, he put it through some kind of computer program.

02:27:10.000 And that's the number he came up with.

02:27:12.000 I use it because when I talk about how rare these crimes are, they never seem rare because our minds work a lot like Google in that if you ask yourself, gee, you know, can my kid walk to the bus stop?

02:27:29.000 And your mind is like shuffling, you know, basically entering, you know, bus stop child safety.

02:27:36.000 The cases that we've heard about in the news, some of them 35 years old, like the case of Eitan Pace here in New York City, or some of them, you know, 20-something years old, like J.C.

02:27:45.000 Dugard, who was taken from a bus stop in California and kept in captivity.

02:27:50.000 Those come up because they are so rare.

02:27:54.000 They made the news.

02:27:55.000 They shocked us.

02:27:56.000 They saddened us.

02:27:58.000 And we saw their pictures for years, sometimes for decades.

02:28:03.000 And they're easy to find in our brains.

02:28:06.000 What we can't find in our brains is the picture of the tens of millions, hundreds of millions, perhaps, of children who have gone to school in the years who have not been kidnapped, who walked there just like you and me as kids, and made it through safe and sound, which is such a vast majority, that You know, it's almost statistically not there, the kids who are hurt.

02:28:31.000 And so, but because we see the J.C.

02:28:34.000 Dugard and the, you know, Elizabeth Smart in our mind, at the top of that Google search, just like a Google search, we think it's the most relevant to our lives, even though it's actually the least relevant.

02:28:48.000 So, that's why I tried to flip it with, like, well, let's look at how unlikely it is that your child will be hurt.

02:28:55.000 Well, and I think that's the downside of the news cycle because, you know, I've had news before that I wanted to break with the mainstream media, and I have contacts within the media for a lot of the spy chips and RFID stuff that I've been working on.

02:29:07.000 And they always say, unless there's a victim, I don't care how evil or terrible the thing is you've discovered, we need a victim.

02:29:14.000 We've got to put a face on the screen.

02:29:16.000 We've got to have somebody that will engender all those emotions on the part of the viewers.

02:29:22.000 Well, I used to work for the New York Daily News, the big tabloid here, Superman's Paper, for 14 years.

02:29:27.000 And if you didn't have a picture of a person, you couldn't run the story on our page.

02:29:31.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:29:32.000 Because they need a victim, exactly.

02:29:34.000 And so for that reason, if they get a victim, they milk it for everything it's worth.

02:29:37.000 All right, my guest is Lenore Skenazy.

02:29:39.000 FreeRangeKids.com is her blog.

02:29:42.000 I'm your host, Dr. Katherine Albrecht.

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02:33:02.000 The answer to 1984 is 1776.

02:33:14.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

02:33:17.000 Indeed, you are.

02:33:24.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:26.000 Catherine Albrecht filling in for Alex Jones.

02:33:28.000 That's Dr. Catherine Albrecht.

02:33:29.000 My website, kmashow.com.

02:33:33.000 Yeah, we're going to open up the phone lines here in just a moment.

02:33:38.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:33:38.000 Before we do that, I've got a question for my guest, Lenore Skenazy.

02:33:42.000 And the reason why I think this topic is so critically important for people who love liberty in this country is because of what it does to children.

02:33:50.000 When you don't allow them to do a single darn thing by themselves, and I'm talking not even pick up a butter knife to spread the butter on the bread, at what point do these kids ever become independent functional adults or do they always remain infantilized looking for some authority figure to give them permission to breathe?

02:34:09.000 Uh, that is a big question.

02:34:10.000 I don't know the answer, but I can tell you a couple things that I do hear that are disturbing.

02:34:14.000 One is that, um, until recently, like until the mid-90s, um, when kids went to college and they felt they needed some psychological help and they went to the counseling services, the number one reason they went for was a breakup, you know?

02:34:29.000 Their boyfriend or their girlfriend dumped them and they were feeling terrible.

02:34:32.000 Um, but what switched then and what has remained the case since then is now they're going because they are overwhelmed by anxiety.

02:34:40.000 And I think they're overwhelmed because they are not used to coping on their own.

02:34:44.000 And in terms of Alex Jones' message and yours, what worries me about that is if you can't cope on your own, Who do you turn to?

02:34:51.000 Is there supposed to be always somebody telling you exactly what to do and how to do it?

02:34:57.000 Well, if you're not used to thinking on your own, perhaps you start seeking that.

02:35:02.000 I just wanted to tell you one other disturbing trend that I heard from the idea that kids just aren't doing things on their own.

02:35:10.000 playing.

02:35:10.000 They're not organizing their own games.

02:35:12.000 They're not building the treehouse.

02:35:13.000 The treehouse is built for them, and then somebody stands underneath and makes sure that nobody falls.

02:35:17.000 Well, NASA started realizing that they were having a problem because as the Apollo 13 generation was retiring, and they needed to replace the guys who basically sent us to the moon, they were getting these brilliant graduates of MIT and Caltech, and they could they were getting these brilliant graduates of MIT and Caltech, and they could do anything, absolutely anything when it came to a computer program or a simulation of something in But when it was the real world...

02:35:46.000 When you needed to figure out how are we going to get these guys back from the moon with some duct tape and a carton of Tang, they were dumped because they had done so little on their own.

02:35:58.000 Everything had been programmed.

02:35:59.000 Everything was perfect.

02:36:00.000 Everything was intellectually stimulating.

02:36:02.000 But there was no leadership and no thinking on their feet.

02:36:05.000 And so NASA and the Jet Propulsion Labs, from what I hear, have started when they interview prospective employees, have started to ask them, how did you spend your childhood?

02:36:16.000 Did you spend some time on your own?

02:36:18.000 Did you tinker?

02:36:19.000 Did you make anything on your own?

02:36:20.000 Did you blow up something in the basement?

02:36:23.000 Because that's what we actually need.

02:36:24.000 Oh, yeah, I did that on SimCity.

02:36:27.000 I build a whole city through my computer interface.

02:36:29.000 Yeah, so I'll build a SimCity way to get those guys home.

02:36:34.000 No, it's really the case.

02:36:36.000 And, you know, I've had some guests on my show who've talked about the real problem for employers, trying to find employees, and not just NASA, but just across the board, people who not only are able to get the job done but are willing to get the job done.

02:36:51.000 There's a second piece because they were saying, you know, you ask people, you'll have these 18, 19 year old interns and you'll say, hey, can you go make a cup of coffee?

02:36:59.000 Or can you make a couple of photocopies?

02:37:01.000 And they'll say, heck no!

02:37:02.000 I didn't go to college to be doing that kind of job.

02:37:05.000 And so you've also got this sense of entitlement right along with the incompetence.

02:37:10.000 It's like a great combination.

02:37:12.000 Oh my gosh!

02:37:13.000 So I don't know what's going to happen as we go forward.

02:37:15.000 And also this notion that, you know, kids are turning to their parents, Mommy, can I go get a straw?

02:37:22.000 And Mommy says, well, as long as I'm watching very closely.

02:37:25.000 And at some point, that's going to be the person who's going to say, excuse me, Obamacare, can I please take this aspirin?

02:37:32.000 You know, it just creates this total sense on the part of the kids that they're not competent.

02:37:39.000 Right, the just sort of like, tell me what to do, I'm a vessel, like we're talking about with the pick off and drop off.

02:37:45.000 It's, you know, bring me someplace, tell me what to do, and then bring me home.

02:37:50.000 One thing I heard that was very interesting was an article by an HR person, I think she was the head of HR at IBM, but I could be wrong, saying that she preferred to hire the children of immigrants Preferably immigrants who didn't speak English because that meant that the kids were not having their parents interfering for them all the time.

02:38:12.000 Oh, my gosh.

02:38:13.000 And arguing with the teacher and doing their homework.

02:38:16.000 If you're the child of somebody who doesn't speak the language, you have to assert yourself and become almost the grown-up in those situations.

02:38:24.000 And she's impressed by them because they've made it on their own already.

02:38:28.000 They've already succeeded by the time they've graduated college as opposed to the mother calling up the professor and saying, B-!

02:38:34.000 B-! 0.98

02:38:35.000 My son knows Milton like nobody knows Milton!

02:38:38.000 You're getting that on the college level, too.

02:38:40.000 You've got parents calling up college professors complaining about the grades.

02:38:44.000 I know.

02:38:45.000 And parents wanting to go with their kids for college application interviews.

02:38:49.000 If I were a kid, I would have been mortified.

02:38:50.000 I actually moved out of my home at age 15.

02:38:53.000 I went down to Mexico and lived on my own in a foreign country where they didn't even speak English.

02:38:58.000 And, you know, I look at what a 15-year-old... Well, if I was a layman from IBM, I'd hire you.

02:39:02.000 There you go!

02:39:02.000 And that probably would be a good move because I wound up running my own business when I came back and starting college at 15 and just independently.

02:39:11.000 I couldn't become a grown-up fast enough.

02:39:15.000 I wanted all those skills and abilities.

02:39:17.000 I wanted the ability to maneuver on my own in the world and be independent.

02:39:22.000 The human drive is to become a grown-up until you've taken it out of kids by never letting them... I mean, say you drive a kid every day to school, and then you drive them to their soccer game, and then somebody, you know, the coach tells you when it's going to start, and makes the teams, and now we're playing, and now you've got to eat the organic grapes, and now your parents can drive you home.

02:39:42.000 I mean, you really don't have much of a life.

02:39:45.000 And we think that we're, you know, helping our children because we're giving them this great opportunity.

02:39:50.000 They're on travel soccer and we're not making them walk because it's cold or it's rainy.

02:39:54.000 And actually what we've done is taken out that essential element of childhood, which is the drive to grow up and the joy that you get out of like, I got myself home.

02:40:03.000 I got lost and I got myself home.

02:40:05.000 Those are great moments, not terrible.

02:40:07.000 Yeah, and we really do try to stamp them out of kids.

02:40:10.000 My guest this hour, Lenore Skenazy, her absolutely just riveting blog is at FreeRangeKids.com.

02:40:16.000 I encourage you to check it out.

02:40:17.000 She's got stories on there of kids who've been suspended for school for doing things like making a sheet of paper in the shape of an L, because that shape L might look like a gun.

02:40:26.000 What was this recent one you had on there about the cake?

02:40:31.000 Yeah, no, the most recent case of this, and they do seem to be coming about one every two weeks, this is a boy at the beginning of the day, he had some kind of pastry, it sounds like maybe a Pop-Tart, and he chewed it into, he was trying to make it into, he says, the shape of a mountain, but the teacher thought it looked more like a gun.

02:40:47.000 And therefore, because of this deadly pastry, he was suspended because we've absolutely lost our minds when it comes to these zero-tolerance laws.

02:40:57.000 And we can't tell the difference between a piece of paper shaped like a gun, a piece of pastry shaped like a gun, a Lego sculpture shaped like a gun, and kids are getting suspended for all of these, for a Hello Kitty gun.

02:41:10.000 which suits bubbles, a child was recently suspended.

02:41:13.000 Because we just go immediately to, oh, my God, what if this is real?

02:41:18.000 I mean, we just love thinking of our children in constant danger and catastrophizing even the simplest, nicest parts of their day, like eating a pastry or playing with their friends.

02:41:28.000 One kid was suspended because he was playing with another friend.

02:41:32.000 He was playing, I'm going to save the world.

02:41:33.000 And to save the world, he threw a pretend grenade, which is a totally imaginary thing, like I'm going to do now.

02:41:39.000 Boom, boom, boom, you know.

02:41:41.000 And that's what he got suspended for because the teacher could not see the difference between playing and war and imagination and an actual grenade that would blow up the school.

02:41:52.000 And what is this conditioning for, though?

02:41:54.000 You know, I fly all the time and I'm standing in the TSA line, and you know that if I did what you had just done right now in the air, that I would be hauled off in handcuffs and interrogated under a swinging lightbulb for 24 hours.

02:42:06.000 And, you know, it's not just in the schools, it's everywhere.

02:42:09.000 And I think it's really conditioning for don't even think.

02:42:13.000 Don't even think a thought.

02:42:16.000 Conditioning to what I call, it's like, learned obtuseness.

02:42:19.000 It's like, you know, the chances that somebody's saying, wow, you know, I'm really going to bomb this plane is, uh, you know, a board and surly from waiting in the line versus a terrorist who, and, and say it's a grandmother in a wheelchair and you're still supposed to treat this like an absolute threat. 0.99

02:42:35.000 That's, that's like willing yourself not to think like a normal human being and become an obtuse idiot, which is what you'd have to be to, to suspend a kid who's Yeah, they have. 0.96

02:42:46.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:42:46.000 Alright, let's go to the phone lines. 1.00

02:42:48.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:42:48.000 I'm Dr. Kathryn Albrecht.

02:42:48.000 My guest, Lenore Skenazy, is online at FreeRangeKids.com.

02:42:50.000 And let's go to, let's see, we've got Mike listening in California.

02:42:53.000 Hi, Mike.

02:42:53.000 You're on with Lenore Skenazy.

02:42:54.000 Go ahead.

02:42:54.000 Hi, Mike.

02:42:54.000 All right, let's go to the phone lines, 1-800-259-9231.

02:42:58.000 I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.

02:43:00.000 My guest, Lenore Skenazy, is online at freerangekids.com.

02:43:04.000 And let's go to, let's see, we've got Mike listening in California.

02:43:08.000 Hi, Mike.

02:43:09.000 You're on with Lenore Skenazy.

02:43:10.000 Go ahead.

02:43:10.000 Hi, Mike.

02:43:12.000 Hi, Dr.

02:43:13.000 There we go.

02:43:15.000 Go ahead.

02:43:17.000 I'm in Red Bluff, California.

02:43:18.000 We just had a girl kidnapped and murdered on our way home from school.

02:43:22.000 Oh, it's horrifying.

02:43:24.000 This week, the perpetrator said, went crazy on drugs.

02:43:29.000 We had one of the interstate, international, kidnap, murder, eat children arrested less than a year ago in Anderson, California, right up the street.

02:43:40.000 My own child is trafficked.

02:43:42.000 The FBI is covering this up.

02:43:44.000 Don't use their statistics.

02:43:47.000 I personally know of an interstate rink.

02:43:51.000 There's a cancer of corruption inside the FBI.

02:43:54.000 And Alex is right.

02:43:55.000 Our children are being trafficked.

02:43:58.000 Don't let your children out there to be victimized.

02:44:02.000 Here's what I would say.

02:44:03.000 I would say definitely have your kids, especially in a neighborhood where there's been a tragedy and perhaps the person hasn't been found, definitely travel with a buddy.

02:44:14.000 That's obviously much safer.

02:44:16.000 And what I always tell parents is to tell their children Not that you can't talk to strangers because, you know, if, God forbid, something bad is happening, you want the child to feel very free to knock on somebody else's door or to run across the street to the guy who's raking his leaves and say, I'm going to stand next to you.

02:44:33.000 I don't like the guy in the van that's passing by.

02:44:35.000 So you can always talk to strangers, but never ever go off with strangers.

02:44:39.000 And don't feel bad if you're making a stink or screaming or running.

02:44:43.000 Don't feel embarrassed.

02:44:44.000 Don't feel like you have to be a good girl.

02:44:46.000 Don't go off with strangers.

02:44:48.000 You can talk to strangers, but don't go off with strangers.

02:44:50.000 Well, and let me address this, because I think Mike is hitting on something pretty important, which is that there are international rings that do traffic in children.

02:45:00.000 Even the mainstream media acknowledges this.

02:45:02.000 So we know that that kind of thing does happen.

02:45:05.000 I would say for parents in a community like that, I probably would not let a six-year-old walk down the street in today's day and age.

02:45:11.000 Lenore, I'm sorry.

02:45:13.000 I probably wouldn't, but I see 12-year-olds who can't even go to the bathroom by themselves.

02:45:18.000 You were telling me the story of a 12-year-old boy whose mother didn't want to let him actually go to the bathroom.

02:45:26.000 He's 12 years old.

02:45:27.000 At what point, and I would ask this of Mike, at what point do kids earn the right to be able to walk down the street or go to the bathroom?

02:45:35.000 Where does that cut off happen?

02:45:37.000 Is it at 21?

02:45:38.000 When can they walk down the street?

02:45:41.000 Is Mike still there?

02:45:42.000 Well yes, this area, in this area, this is massive corruption.

02:45:47.000 It's worse than Boston.

02:45:49.000 You can Google up FBI ruling bulger, B-U-L-G-E-R, whitey bulger, and understand the FBI has been, a cancer inside the FBI, has been allowing this to continue, including an interstate trafficking ring. 0.79

02:46:07.000 Thanks for the call, Mike.

02:46:08.000 Let me just jump in with a couple of thoughts here.

02:46:10.000 First of all, any time the word Google comes up, I have to correct it and say, around here, we start page it.

02:46:14.000 Because we're giving billions of dollars of free advertising to Google every time we say to Google something.

02:46:19.000 And we use Start Page, the private search engine here.

02:46:21.000 But the other thing I want to say, Lenore, let's say somebody really just doesn't feel safe with their kids walking down the street alone.

02:46:26.000 That's not really what this is about.

02:46:28.000 What it's really about is letting a kid use a sharp knife in the kitchen.

02:46:34.000 Letting a kid use a hammer and nails in their own backyard to build a treehouse.

02:46:39.000 Things that nowadays parents are not letting their kids do anything.

02:46:42.000 There are parents who won't let their children cut a sandwich.

02:46:46.000 There are parents who won't let children, you know, play in the backyard.

02:46:50.000 What we've started to do is think of children as in danger by everything.

02:46:55.000 And just like we were talking about with the TSAC's danger in every passenger, I feel like we as parents are encouraged to think, oh, my God, this cup has plastic, and plastic could hurt my child.

02:47:07.000 Oh my God, this drop side crib.

02:47:09.000 I mean, we just recalled all the drop side cribs because it's sad every, you know, once in a while somebody dies in them, but does that mean that the crib is inherently It's dangerous.

02:47:20.000 You know, one in eight million children dies in a crib.

02:47:24.000 We started saying that this means that we can't have that on the market anymore.

02:47:28.000 So the crib is dangerous, the cup is dangerous, the knife is dangerous, and outside is dangerous because there's sun and the sun could give you cancer.

02:47:36.000 I mean, we don't think of anything as I think it's harming the parents as well.

02:47:45.000 All right, let me go to New York.

02:47:46.000 I want to get a woman's opinion on this.

02:47:47.000 Catherine is holding on the line in New York.

02:47:49.000 Catherine, you're on with Lenora Skenazy.

02:47:50.000 Go ahead.

02:47:53.000 Oh, Catherine.

02:47:54.000 Hello?

02:47:54.000 Yeah, go right ahead.

02:47:58.000 Oh, hi.

02:47:59.000 Yeah, Catherine, I was actually able to sit in on your talk up at the Liberty Forum in New Hampshire, and I want to thank you for that.

02:48:07.000 And I just wanted to say that I grew up the complete opposite of what you're describing here.

02:48:13.000 I mean, unfortunately, when I was growing up, I was like kind of running away because my home life was Um, you know, a bit stressful to say the least.

02:48:24.000 There was like some domestic violence and divorce and I was, you know, pushed out.

02:48:30.000 Um, you know, uh, you know, forced to kind of grow up too fast.

02:48:35.000 And I think, I mean, of course there's a balance, you know, not letting kids grow up enough and pushing them.

02:48:40.000 And then, you know, even me, I wanted to kind of grow up fast, but it doesn't work because Everything has to be done in nature's process and growing up too fast and not having people to rely on and lean on sufficiently enough actually prevents you from ending up independent and healthy also.

02:49:02.000 That's a great point.

02:49:03.000 I don't think anybody's recommending that kids just be shoved out.

02:49:11.000 No, not at all.

02:49:12.000 First of all, I'm really sorry you grew up in that kind of environment because it sounds really rough.

02:49:18.000 The idea of free range is not freewheeling and it's certainly not abuse.

02:49:22.000 It's the idea that we do what, you know, hopefully good parents have done throughout time.

02:49:27.000 Which is gradually train our children to be more responsible and give them their independence as they prove it.

02:49:34.000 So if you teach your child to cross the street safely and you've watched him do it and you know that he's competent, then you let him start crossing the street, you know, your own block and then maybe a couple blocks further.

02:49:45.000 And you do the same with riding a bike.

02:49:47.000 You do the same with letting them babysit.

02:49:50.000 It's a gradual process and it doesn't have anything to do with neglect.

02:49:54.000 It has to do with teaching.

02:49:55.000 Well, and I think that it's almost a sign of an involved parent who actually wants to nurture those skills.

02:50:02.000 And, you know, it's probably much easier to just leave your kid in the basement playing video games and not ever let them do anything than to have them come up in the kitchen and actually help you out with the sharp knife.

02:50:11.000 You know, or learn how to sharpen a knife, or actually enable them to do some of the things you're talking about.

02:50:16.000 I think about, Lenore, when you let your nine-year-old take the subway, you were not just off in some crack house, you know, spacing out while he did that.

02:50:23.000 You were, like, standing by.

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02:50:31.000 And we sat on the floor with him and looked at the map and made sure he knew how to read the map and gave him quarters for the phone and gave him $20 in case, God forbid, something happened and he needed to hop in a cab and had been on the subway umpteen times with him before and we knew our kid.

02:50:47.000 I think it's really, if I could just sum it up, I think it's a different form of involved parenting that's more about establishing independence than dependence.

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02:54:02.000 In the morning you go running For the man who stole your water Then you'll fly till he is donning But they catch you at the border

02:54:29.000 And the homeowners are all slanging As they drag you by your feet But the hangman isn't hanging And they put you on the street Yeah, go back, jack, do it again Wheels are in rounds and And speaking of back, we are back.

02:54:54.000 Final segment here, Katherine Albrecht filling in for Alex Jones as he gets some much-deserved rest.

02:55:00.000 We need him tan-rested and ready to continue to lead the revolution across this country against the New World Order.

02:55:07.000 We all know what's coming.

02:55:08.000 We all do.

02:55:08.000 We all feel it in our bones.

02:55:10.000 Whether you want to call it a spiritual or a political or an economic battle, we all feel it coming.

02:55:15.000 And I for one have my hat off to Alex Jones.

02:55:18.000 I want to say thank you for all that he does.

02:55:20.000 I also want to say thank you to all the listeners for all the support.

02:55:23.000 I've gotten lots of lovely emails in from you guys this hour.

02:55:26.000 I am going to be with you again tomorrow and also on Friday.

02:55:29.000 I've got a whole lineup of fabulous guests and of course I'll be giving you the updates from my corner of the battle where I work on the issue of RFID tracking, consumer privacy, and also going to be reporting in on what's going on down there in San Antonio.

02:55:44.000 Where they've got 4,200 kids wearing remotely readable RFID tracking beacons around their necks.

02:55:50.000 See, that's really where this goes.

02:55:52.000 Lenore Skenazy is my guest this hour.

02:55:54.000 Lenore, let me ask you about this program down in Texas, because taken to its logical conclusion, This idea that kids are not competent, that they're not allowed to go anywhere or be anywhere.

02:56:05.000 I just spent a week down in San Antonio, Texas talking to the vendor of this program where they've got these remotely readable tracking devices around kids' necks.

02:56:14.000 Every 25 seconds they believe that these kids are at such risk on campus that they need to pinpoint their precise location, store it in a giant database, and know where these kids are literally every 25 seconds all day long.

02:56:27.000 That's twice a minute.

02:56:29.000 And, yeah, well, here's the part that really gets me is, as I was talking to Mike Wade, the vendor of this program at Wade-Garcia, he actually said that one of the administrators at one of the schools says he can't sleep at night because after the kids leave the bus stop, you know, after they get off the bus, he can't track them all the way home and throughout their evening and for the entire rest of their lives.

02:56:51.000 So he says he literally is losing sleep, quote-unquote, because he cannot track the kids in his school after they leave school.

02:56:58.000 You know, it's so interesting because what I talk about a lot is that all these new devices that are supposed to give us peace of mind, from the cell phone to GPSing our kids to RFID text, actually do the exact opposite.

02:57:11.000 Because in the olden days, when I didn't immediately come home from school, My mom figured I'd stopped at a friend's house, or maybe I went to get a candy bar, or I was playing in the park, or whatever, and she didn't immediately freak out.

02:57:23.000 But nowadays, if you can't get your kid on the phone immediately, if you send a text and they're not there, or you're GPSing them and their battery runs out and you don't know where they are, the immediate idea is that, oh my God, they're in terrible danger, because that's what we've been trained to think.

02:57:39.000 The second that we're not in touch, Either physically or electronically with our kids, we're supposed to imagine the very worst.

02:57:46.000 And there are TV commercials and radio commercials that go on and on about like, imagine if your child wasn't with you, don't you have to know all the time or they could be in terrible danger.

02:57:54.000 And when you're taught to act like that, you start thinking that you can't let your children out of your eyes or out of your electronic eyes ever.

02:58:04.000 And it drives you crazy, and it trains the child that they're a prisoner.

02:58:08.000 It's like those ankle bracelets that guys on parole wear.

02:58:12.000 I mean, somehow we're supposed to be tracking them all the time.

02:58:16.000 Well, and they're going to grow up expecting that.

02:58:18.000 They're going to feel unsafe unless they're being tracked, and they're going to be begging the government for the tracking device.

02:58:23.000 All right, James, that music means we're done here.

02:58:27.000 Lenore Skenazy, I want to thank you so much for joining me.

02:58:30.000 FreeRangeKids.com.

02:58:32.000 All right, and apologies to the callers I didn't get to, but I will be back, and we'll do it all again tomorrow.

02:58:38.000 Katherine Albrecht filling in for Alex Jones.

02:58:40.000 God bless.

02:58:41.000 Bye-bye.

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