Alex Jones Show - 20130308_Fri_Alex

00:00:02.000 Big Brother.

00:00:08.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:10.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:12.000 You want answers?

00:00:14.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 And happy Friday.

00:00:32.000 Alex Jones Show, Katherine Albrecht filling in for Alex.

00:00:36.000 My last day here with you guys.

00:00:37.000 What a delight to be part of the Alex Jones Freedom Empire, making its way across the globe here.

00:00:44.000 I've been hearing from people in New Zealand, I've been hearing from people across Europe, I've been hearing from people in South America.

00:00:50.000 Amazing how this freedom message, we here in the U.S.

00:00:54.000 think that we're kind of the epicenter of freedom.

00:00:56.000 And I think in a lot of ways we are, especially if you're in a place like North Korea, you're probably looking out at the shining beacon of the U.S.

00:01:03.000 But people are waking up to this message all over the globe, in large measure because of programs like this one, in large measure because of the Internet, which is enabling us to get this message out.

00:01:15.000 And, you know, I really think we have a brief window of time to do it, too.

00:01:18.000 Because you know that the globalists have their plan.

00:01:21.000 The government would very much like to shut all of this down.

00:01:24.000 You know, no more of that conversing.

00:01:27.000 You know, I have this book on my floor-to-ceiling bookshelf of 20th century history.

00:01:32.000 And it is all about the laws that were enacted in the Soviet Union.

00:01:36.000 It's a really boring book.

00:01:37.000 You know, it's just page after page of legal... It's translated in English, but it was a Russian law book or a Soviet law book in the Cold War.

00:01:47.000 And in there, do you know that the Soviets actually required, back in the day when they had mimeograph machines and they were first coming out with photocopiers, that you had to get a permit in order to make copies of just a piece of paper.

00:02:02.000 I'm looking at that going, okay, well, that's some serious top-down control there.

00:02:07.000 Because they didn't want, in the same way that the British back in the days of the Founding Fathers of the U.S., they didn't want more than a couple of people gathering at a time.

00:02:17.000 That's why that particular right is right there in the U.S.

00:02:19.000 Constitution, in the Bill of Rights.

00:02:21.000 They don't want people getting together.

00:02:23.000 They don't want people disseminating information.

00:02:26.000 Because if they can control all the information, of course in the Soviet Union they controlled the newspapers, they controlled the radio, they controlled the television. 0.56

00:02:33.000 They were it!

00:02:34.000 You had your state-controlled media and that was all there was.

00:02:36.000 And they didn't want people even making mimeographed copies.

00:02:40.000 Anybody old enough to remember in the 60s and 70s those drum roller machines with the purple ink that would be all fuzzy?

00:02:48.000 Your teacher would give you a handout and it'd still be wet.

00:02:51.000 It'd be like damp from the roller thing.

00:02:53.000 And they had a particular smell about them.

00:02:55.000 Well, you know, in those days, I'm sure even for teachers to hand out worksheets to their students, they had to get literally a permit from the government.

00:03:05.000 As I look at what's going on today, I think, my gosh, it would be fun just to teleport Stalin just ever so briefly into the modern era and just watch his smoke come out of his ears and watch him absolutely flip out.

00:03:17.000 Because we've got the power beyond photocopies, my goodness.

00:03:21.000 We've got the power to reach literally hundreds of millions of people and I'm so glad we're doing it.

00:03:27.000 Alright, well my name is Catherine Albrecht.

00:03:29.000 If you're not familiar with my work, I'm the RFID lady.

00:03:32.000 I've been working on the issue of consumer privacy, shopper privacy, and fighting against the encroachment of radio frequency ID devices, whether it's in products, Or as we're going to be talking about this hour, in furniture, heaven forbid, or the worst case of all, on human beings, or even in human beings.

00:03:52.000 We're going to be talking about that a little bit this hour as well.

00:03:55.000 The RFID microchip is merging with the cell phone, is merging with the global brain, is merging with the internet.

00:04:03.000 It's all coming together.

00:04:05.000 And it's not a mistake, as I've said before on this show and my own program, that it's a web.

00:04:10.000 It is called a web because there's a spider sitting at the center of it.

00:04:14.000 It is called a net because there's somebody holding the net.

00:04:18.000 And you may think that you're in charge of a lot of this technology, and in a lot of ways we are.

00:04:22.000 But when it comes right down to it, this net, this web, is not only going to be a place through which we can communicate with one another, but it's going to be a place through which this global thing is going to have its eyes and ears on all of us.

00:04:35.000 All right, we'll be talking about that this hour, also opening up for your phone calls a little bit later this hour.

00:04:41.000 Microchip markets RFID technology that transmits via the human body?

00:04:46.000 Yeah, that and we've got a new Wall Street Journal article out about how companies are tracking their employees.

00:04:52.000 All right, all that and more when we come back.

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00:08:34.000 Life's a good in this town.

00:08:37.000 Life's a good in this town.

00:08:43.000 This town is our town.

00:08:50.000 This town is the plan of rest.

00:08:53.000 It is our town.

00:08:55.000 It's our country.

00:08:56.000 It's our planet, in case you hadn't noticed that lately. 0.99

00:08:59.000 All you pond scum out there. 0.92

00:09:01.000 Yeah, the globalists want to think it's their town, but they are a tiny, mincey, minuscule little fraction of the mass of humanity that lives on this planet. 0.99

00:09:11.000 And it really is time for us to remind them of that.

00:09:14.000 Especially because we've got a constitution that makes it very clear that these folks are our servants.

00:09:19.000 So I'm always pleased when I see that, at least on the local level, the local and the state level, that the people who are getting elected kind of still get that.

00:09:27.000 You know, it hasn't gone totally to their heads in the way that it has on the federal level.

00:09:32.000 And on my own radio program, this is of course the Alex Jones Show, and I'm Katherine Albrecht.

00:09:36.000 Fill it in for Alex.

00:09:37.000 I do my own radio show for two hours, Monday through Friday.

00:09:41.000 And on Fridays, I always kind of try to dispel a little bit of the darkness that we've been looking at all week long.

00:09:48.000 And I do a little thing called Good News Friday.

00:09:51.000 Well, I want to give you just a couple of the good news stories, just a little preview of what I'm going to be talking about on my show.

00:09:56.000 And I want to share some of the positive stories that are coming out.

00:10:00.000 It's always good news when When we have something positive going on.

00:10:04.000 Well, let me tell you, the state of Ohio is considering a ban against traffic cameras.

00:10:09.000 Wouldn't that be a good thing?

00:10:10.000 You know, the idea that the state has its eyes on all of our cars is really disturbing.

00:10:15.000 We know that not only can the traffic cameras now zoom in and see your face or determine whether you're, you know, grimacing or scowling or smiling as you sit there at the red light, they're also able now to do automatic license plate recognition in a lot of municipalities.

00:10:31.000 And this is a big income source for these communities.

00:10:35.000 Well, there's a court in Ohio that has said, no, you can't be doing this.

00:10:40.000 Let me just read you the article here.

00:10:41.000 This is out of W. Ohio TV.

00:10:44.000 They say, the days of red light and speed cameras at Ohio intersections could be numbered.

00:10:49.000 A Hamilton County court judge ruled Thursday, that would be yesterday, that a traffic camera ordinance in a little small village near Cincinnati cannot be enforced.

00:10:59.000 Yeah, now this is interesting.

00:11:01.000 Listen to the stats on this. 0.99

00:11:02.000 You guys will die.

00:11:03.000 Alright, only 2,188 people live in Elmwood Place, Ohio. 0.99

00:11:10.000 Right?

00:11:10.000 Just a little small town.

00:11:11.000 2,000 people, approximately.

00:11:13.000 But cameras have caught more than 20,000 drivers speeding through town in just the last, well, less than a year.

00:11:21.000 They just installed these things in September of last year, so just a couple of months.

00:11:26.000 20,000 drivers getting tickets?

00:11:27.000 You gotta be kidding me.

00:11:28.000 Well, what are they making off of this?

00:11:31.000 1.5 million dollars since September of last year.

00:11:34.000 October, November, December, that's like what?

00:11:36.000 Three months?

00:11:37.000 Wait, no.

00:11:37.000 Three months of 2012.

00:11:39.000 Five months worth?

00:11:41.000 1.5 million bucks.

00:11:42.000 You know why these guys are doing it.

00:11:44.000 Yeah, in the decision, the judge said, well, not enough signage warning the motorists, they're not calibrating them, it's a for-profit company, a whole bunch of problems with this.

00:11:53.000 But I am delighted to see that not only is the court striking this down, but there's even bipartisan legislation introduced in the state of Ohio to knock out those traffic cameras.

00:12:04.000 We've been seeing legislation like this introduced in other states.

00:12:08.000 And I would say this is an encouraging move.

00:12:10.000 Wherever you're located, you may want to consider lobbying for those cameras to be shut down.

00:12:15.000 You know, they do a lot more than just monitor people who are violating the law.

00:12:19.000 Yeah, they can also use them for really any purpose they want to, and we ought to probably put the brakes on that.

00:12:25.000 So I would encourage you to get involved in that movement against the eyes of the state being on every street corner.

00:12:32.000 All right, the other bit of good news this week, I know it's kind of I suppose it's good news, TSA allowing knives and golf clubs back on U.S.

00:12:43.000 I say I suppose it's good news because it's about time, isn't it?

00:12:43.000 planes.

00:12:47.000 Next they're going to tell us we're going to be allowed to have a conversation on the plane.

00:12:52.000 It's pretty bad when they take away your rights and then they give them back to you piecemeal.

00:12:56.000 Thank you, government, sir.

00:12:58.000 Thank you, thank you that we're allowed to do something that, you know, people have been doing for years and years before you took those rights away.

00:13:03.000 But the USTSA has said that it will allow people to carry small pocket knives onto passenger planes for the first time since the September 11th terrorist attacks, along with golf clubs, hockey sticks, and plastic wiffle ball style bats.

00:13:19.000 Can you believe that it's been illegal for over 10 years now to carry a wiffle ball bat onto an airplane?

00:13:27.000 Yeah, just try beating somebody over the head with that.

00:13:29.000 They've got the holes in them, they don't do much.

00:13:32.000 The agency will permit knives with retractable blades shorter than 2.3 inches, so we're talking just the barest tiny of pocket knives here, and narrower than one-half inch.

00:13:44.000 The new rules are going to take effect at the end of April.

00:13:48.000 Yeah, they're also going to allow sticks used to play lacrosse, billiards, and hockey, ski poles, and as many as two golf clubs.

00:13:56.000 Yeah, you know, because if you have three or four, you could get in big trouble with that.

00:14:01.000 All right, the flight attendants having a hissy fit about this. 1.00

00:14:05.000 I'm not sure why they get so upset about pocketknives.

00:14:07.000 How many pocketknife attacks did we really have before they banned the pocketknives?

00:14:12.000 Really?

00:14:13.000 Realistically?

00:14:14.000 Most men I know, especially in certain parts of the country in the South, actually carried a pocketknife as just part of the stuff in their pockets along with their keys and their change and their wallets.

00:14:24.000 And you didn't see a rash of, you know, Tiny knife attacks on the airplane.

00:14:29.000 So, I suppose that's good news.

00:14:31.000 They're letting us do that again.

00:14:33.000 Got another law out of Texas.

00:14:35.000 Speaking of local lawmakers, who are my heroes, gotta say.

00:14:38.000 Texas is now proposing one of the nation's most sweeping mobile privacy laws.

00:14:44.000 If signed into law, this is such a no-brainer, but if signed into law, cops would actually have to get a warrant before they could use your phone to track you and get your location data.

00:14:55.000 Now, a pair of new mobile privacy bills recently introduced in the state of Texas are among the, quote, most sweeping ever seen.

00:15:03.000 Yeah, they actually offer better protection on the Texas state level than a couple of similar bills introduced in Congress this week.

00:15:10.000 If passed, they would establish a probable cause requirement.

00:15:14.000 Yeah, you'd have to get a warrant.

00:15:16.000 You'd have to show probable cause in order to obtain location information from GPS devices and also tap and trace and cell phone tower location data.

00:15:27.000 This data, if the bill passes, would only be disclosed to law enforcement, quote, If there's probable cause to believe the records disclosing location information will provide evidence in a criminal investigation.

00:15:39.000 It's about flipping time, don't you think?

00:15:42.000 All right, so I gotta tell you, I am always delighted when we see on the state and local level these kinds of bills getting introduced.

00:15:53.000 I have already, years ago, I gave up on the federal government, although I gotta say I was pretty pleased with Rand Paul and his filibuster here over the last couple of days.

00:16:02.000 So I think there is still some stuff that can be done on the federal level, but if you're really looking to make change, I believe that that change is going to be happening on the local and the state level.

00:16:12.000 Joining me later this, the third hour of today's program, Tom Woods and I are going to be talking about nullification and state rights as well, so stay tuned for that.

00:16:24.000 We'll definitely be getting into where the power structure is and where we as individuals can actually get in there and make some changes.

00:16:32.000 Well, I've got a couple more bits of good news, but I think that's probably enough to tide us over for the moment.

00:16:38.000 I now want to turn our attention to something that's maybe a little bit more disturbing.

00:16:43.000 And you guys, if you've been following my work at all, and I know Alex has talked about this extensively on the show as well, we are fighting against the tagging of students in San Antonio, Texas with RFID tracking beacons around their necks.

00:16:59.000 And one of the reasons that we've said, hey listen, this tracking pilot program at two schools down there, 4,200 kids being forced to wear a lanyard with a battery-powered ID tag around their necks, that sends out a signal that's monitored every 25 seconds and recorded in a giant database so they know where all the kids are all the time, all day long, that it's going to set a bad precedent for the future, right?

00:17:22.000 Those kids are going to grow up.

00:17:23.000 And what is school all about?

00:17:24.000 Well, school is about conditioning kids.

00:17:28.000 It's really not about education, and I can't help myself, I've got to share this other story with you.

00:17:32.000 The other breaking news today, most New York City high school grads cannot read.

00:17:39.000 Basic skills like reading, writing, and math need to be relearned.

00:17:43.000 Nearly 80% of New York City high school graduates have to relearn basic skills like reading before they can enter the City University's community college system.

00:17:55.000 Right?

00:17:55.000 So this story just out today, So, let's clarify this, because my background is in education.

00:18:00.000 I have a doctorate from Harvard University in education.

00:18:02.000 This is what I do.

00:18:03.000 It's what I've done my whole life.

00:18:05.000 And I can say that as far as education goes, the government schools, obviously if 80% of kids graduating from them can't read or write, you would say that they're a failure, right?

00:18:16.000 Well, if you talk to John Taylor Gatto, who I knew has been a guest on this program in the past, who's written the underground history of American education.

00:18:24.000 He's a former New York Teacher of the Year, so he knows what he's talking about.

00:18:28.000 He'll come right out and tell you the schools aren't failing.

00:18:31.000 The schools are succeeding brilliantly.

00:18:33.000 They're doing exactly what they were set out to do, which is to condition kids to accept keeping their mouths shut, keeping their heads low, obeying authority, and staying in line.

00:18:44.000 That's what the schools are about, and they succeed in that brilliantly.

00:18:48.000 So, when you take a look, now let's turn our attention away from New York, where 80% of kids can't read, and now let's look back at Texas, where you've got 4,200 kids as part of a trial this year, with these remotely readable tracking devices around their necks.

00:19:01.000 What do you think they're learning?

00:19:02.000 What do you think they're teaching these kids?

00:19:04.000 Well, they're teaching them to accept this notion that it's appropriate for the people in charge of you.

00:19:08.000 Well, first of all, that there are people in charge of you in large numbers that can segregate, slice and dice you into a little age-segregated unit that can then put this thing around your neck and punish you if you fail to wear it, like Andrea Hernandez, who was expelled for refusing to wear her little tracking device around her neck.

00:19:27.000 So, you know, that sends a pretty powerful message.

00:19:29.000 We will expel you, we will punish you, we will make your life miserable unless you don't. 0.98

00:19:34.000 Well, already, the thing that I've been predicting, that this is going to hit the workplace, it's happening.

00:19:39.000 New story out in the Wall Street Journal, titled, Tracking Sensors Invade the Workplace.

00:19:44.000 There's a new company out there putting trackers not only around employees' necks, But even on the furniture that they sit in to determine how often they get up or take breaks?

00:19:54.000 All right, more on that story when we come back.

00:19:56.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:19:57.000 I'm Kathryn Albrecht filling in.

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00:24:38.000 I'm your guest host, Catherine Albrecht, riding shotgun with you for the next couple of hours.

00:24:42.000 Going to open up the phone lines here in the next segment.

00:24:44.000 Let me give out that number.

00:24:45.000 It's 1-800-259-9231.

00:24:49.000 That's 1-800-259-9231.

00:24:52.000 If you'd like to call in with a question or a comment about any of the topics we're talking about this hour, I want to get into this whole concept of tracking people becoming a normal part of life.

00:25:06.000 And if they can get it into the schools, they always want to start with the kids.

00:25:10.000 You know, as I said last week when I was a guest in the studio with Alex, it's really about conditioning the kids.

00:25:16.000 You know, Hitler said, I don't care about you adults who oppose me.

00:25:20.000 Because I've already got your kids.

00:25:22.000 See, that's where they want to go.

00:25:23.000 And we look at the schools.

00:25:24.000 They've got our kids in the schools.

00:25:26.000 They're clearly doing a horrific job of educating them.

00:25:29.000 But that's not what the schools are about.

00:25:32.000 At least not according to John Taylor Gatto.

00:25:34.000 He says the schools are about conditioning compliant adult units to function in the economy and to take the boring factory jobs and to sit at a boring desk and work until they're 65.

00:25:48.000 And then take the government-issued retirement and just be good worker drones.

00:25:53.000 That's what the schools are about.

00:25:54.000 And they do a great job of that.

00:25:55.000 Think about it.

00:25:56.000 All day long, what are your kids told?

00:25:57.000 You know, I was thinking about this recently.

00:26:00.000 I was at church, and most of the kids at my church are homeschooled.

00:26:04.000 But one of the kids is schooled at a government school, and he was doing something.

00:26:09.000 Like taking water out of the water fountain and spraying it around the room or something.

00:26:12.000 I walked over to him and I said, excuse me, where are we?

00:26:16.000 Can you tell me what building we're in?

00:26:17.000 Is it appropriate to be spewing the water?

00:26:20.000 Where are we?

00:26:21.000 And he just looked at me like a deer in the headlights.

00:26:23.000 I wanted to say, well, we're at church.

00:26:25.000 I was going to say, well, church is probably not a good place to be doing what you're doing.

00:26:29.000 But he just looked at me.

00:26:30.000 And I realized, I've tried several times to just even say hello or good morning or just have a little chat with this kid.

00:26:36.000 And he never says anything.

00:26:38.000 He's almost mute.

00:26:39.000 And yet, you know, he can sit there and play his video games, he's got a little thumb on the machine.

00:26:44.000 And I got to thinking, why is it that kids nowadays, kids who are government schooled, don't look you in the eye, and they can't carry on a conversation with you?

00:26:53.000 Whereas homeschooled kids do.

00:26:54.000 In fact, that's always the difference.

00:26:56.000 You can tell the homeschooled kids, because they look you in the eye, they can speak, they've got ideas, they interact, they go back and forth.

00:27:02.000 But the government schooled kids, they just kind of shrink away and stare at you with these wide-eyed stares, or else they just look at the floor.

00:27:09.000 And I realized, what's the reason?

00:27:11.000 What is the message that they get from the time they get to class in the morning until the time they leave?

00:27:17.000 Be quiet.

00:27:17.000 Don't talk.

00:27:18.000 Keep your voice down.

00:27:19.000 Don't talk.

00:27:20.000 Be quiet.

00:27:21.000 All day long they're told not to talk.

00:27:23.000 So is it any surprise that we're creating an entire generation, an entire country, full of people who do not know how to even speak? 1.00

00:27:31.000 Much less speak up against wrongdoing, but literally even speak at all.

00:27:37.000 I've heard about people going on dates and they're literally texting each other across the table from their little handheld devices rather than having actual conversations.

00:27:47.000 So I think this ties in with this article out of the Wall Street Journal, this sensor tracking article they're talking about.

00:27:53.000 Furniture being outfitted with RFID receptor devices and also having these RFID devices around people's necks.

00:28:04.000 Right?

00:28:04.000 This started at Bank of America.

00:28:05.000 All right.

00:28:07.000 Let's see.

00:28:08.000 Oh, by the way, we've got a breaking news story.

00:28:10.000 I've got to share this with you really quickly and we're coming up on a break in a moment.

00:28:13.000 But TSA screeners Allow federal agent with fake bomb to pass through security at Newark Airport.

00:28:21.000 That's breaking news out of the New York Post.

00:28:23.000 We'll be posting that up on Infowars.com and or Prison Planet.

00:28:28.000 So you get the breaking news right first right here on this radio program.

00:28:32.000 This is the Alex Jones Show of course.

00:28:34.000 Alright, speaking of sensors, maybe that's what they're going to do at the airports now.

00:28:38.000 Just outfit everybody with a sensor.

00:28:40.000 Did you hear the proposal a couple of years ago to actually put cameras onto the seat backs so they could sit there and watch you on the airplane?

00:28:49.000 Yeah, well the only reason that didn't fly is a lot, excuse the pun, that didn't fly because the frequent flyers said, heck no, you know, we're paying hundreds of bucks for these tickets and that's the one place where we actually recognize that it's us you're going to be looking at rather than the terrorist.

00:29:05.000 Well, Bank of America a couple years ago wanted to study How people were interacting with one another.

00:29:12.000 So they asked 90 workers to wear these badges.

00:29:15.000 The same kind of thing they're using at the school down in San Antonio.

00:29:19.000 To wear these badges with tiny sensors to record their movements.

00:29:23.000 And get this, they could even record their conversations and their tone of voice in the conversations.

00:29:29.000 My question for you, why in the heck would 90 people agree to do that?

00:29:32.000 If your employer asked you voluntarily to wear a thing around your neck that would record your conversations, I really hope you'd say no thank you.

00:29:39.000 All right, I'm Katherine Albrecht filling in for Alex Jones, and we'll be right back and taking your phone calls right after this.

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00:33:09.000 It's Alex Jones. - What?

00:33:12.000 Mother, mother, there's too many of you crying.

00:33:19.000 Brother, brother, brother, there's far too many of you dying.

00:33:28.000 You know we've got to find a way to bring some loving here today.

00:33:38.000 Yeah.

00:33:40.000 Yeah, what's going on?

00:33:41.000 Katherine Albrecht here with you, filling in for Alex Jones.

00:33:43.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:47.000 Delightful being here with you.

00:33:48.000 We're opening up the phone lines right now.

00:33:51.000 And before we do that, I just wanted to make a couple of notes about health.

00:33:54.000 We're going to be talking about health a little bit in the second hour of today's program.

00:33:58.000 Particularly complementary and alternative ways that you can deal with cancer, one of the things that's been kind of at the forefront of my life the last couple of years, as I've discussed on Alex Jones' show, and I think Alex was one of the first to break the story, I actually had stage 3c breast cancer, really nasty, locally advanced breast cancer.

00:34:19.000 And I am so excited because I just began on Wednesday the clinical trial of a new drug called, it's a mouthful, Tetra-Thiomalybdate.

00:34:29.000 This is a drug that's not funded by any pharmaceutical company.

00:34:32.000 It is cheap enough you could salt the roads with it.

00:34:34.000 There's not big bucks behind it.

00:34:36.000 But there is, the folks at Cornell University, Dr. Linda Vedant is the researcher on this, And I've got to tell you, there's a big story coming out next week in the New York Times about this.

00:34:47.000 She just published her results in the Annals of Oncology.

00:34:52.000 I am patient number 60 on this phase 2 clinical trial of this drug to prevent recurrence of breast cancer.

00:34:59.000 And I've got to tell you, I think this woman has cured breast cancer because the way this disease kills you is it comes back. 0.99

00:35:06.000 You know, you treat it and it's gone and you're in remission.

00:35:09.000 And then 3, 5, 10, 20 years go by, and then if it does come back and metastasizes, then that's all she wrote.

00:35:16.000 Well, the women that she's been treating, stage 4 cancer patients, who normally have less than a two-year lifespan, are now six years out with no evidence of disease whatsoever.

00:35:27.000 It's extraordinary.

00:35:28.000 It's amazing stuff.

00:35:29.000 I've blogged about it on my blog.

00:35:31.000 If you go to katherinealbrecht.com, Or I know that's hard to spell.

00:35:35.000 You can just try KMAShow.com.

00:35:38.000 Click on the blog.

00:35:39.000 You can see all the links right there.

00:35:41.000 There are still spaces.

00:35:43.000 I just spoke to her on Wednesday.

00:35:44.000 She gave me permission to talk about it on the show before the New York Times article comes out next week.

00:35:49.000 There are still spaces for a dozen more women on there. 1.00

00:35:52.000 The key, though, is the women have to be Stage 3 or Stage 4. 1.00

00:35:57.000 At high risk of breast cancer recurrence, they have to have no evidence of disease.

00:36:01.000 In other words, no active tumors.

00:36:03.000 And I believe she's taking stage 2 triple negative breast cancer patients.

00:36:07.000 So you heard it first here.

00:36:09.000 You're going to be hearing it in the New York Times next week.

00:36:12.000 And when that hits, I've got to say, I'm so excited.

00:36:16.000 I am patient number 60 on that trial.

00:36:18.000 No side effects as far as we can tell, other than preventing the cancer from coming back.

00:36:23.000 Sounds mighty good to me.

00:36:25.000 Alright, I do want to get back to the phone lines here.

00:36:27.000 I also want to remind you that InfoWars shop is where you can go to get all your InfoWars gear.

00:36:33.000 And also please make a point of supporting the sponsors here on this radio program.

00:36:38.000 And finally, speaking of health, Alex is in great health.

00:36:40.000 I, in no way...

00:36:42.000 I believe that he has taken this week to do anything other than wrestle cactuses with his bare hands, I think was the email that came in earlier this week.

00:36:51.000 So Alex is in absolutely fabulous health.

00:36:55.000 I got to visit with him last week.

00:36:57.000 And we just want to keep him that way, so I am glad that he is able to get just a little bit of a break.

00:37:01.000 I know it can be a lot of work running the huge InfoWars empire.

00:37:07.000 So when he comes back, I know he's going to be tan-rested and ready to take on the New World Order.

00:37:12.000 And I know you guys are helping him do that, so keep it up.

00:37:16.000 Alright, phone lines are open 1-800-259-9231.

00:37:17.000 Let's go to Noel, listening in Illinois.

00:37:19.000 Hello.

00:37:19.000 Let's go to Noel, listening in Illinois.

00:37:22.000 Hello.

00:37:23.000 Yes, hello.

00:37:24.000 I'm a big fan of your work, Catherine.

00:37:27.000 I was watching the cybersecurity hearing yesterday, the Senate hearing, and it just got me thinking again, knowing that we could be looming on the last days of freedom on the Internet.

00:37:41.000 I'm a big fan of startpage.com.

00:37:43.000 I use it a lot during my investigative reporting work to look up some documents away from Google.

00:37:49.000 Any suggestions on, say, Email servers, or if someone is going to register a website away from a company like GoDaddy, who is pro SOPA and CISPA, or any suggestions or recommendations for those who are trying to do their best to prevent malicious attacks online, knowing that websites are tracking.

00:38:15.000 What are ways that we could prevent ourselves online?

00:38:18.000 You know, it's tough stuff.

00:38:19.000 I've actually done a couple of interviews with the folks behind Tor, the Onion Router, which is probably, you know, for the really hardcore folks who really want to restrict their, you know, kind of create a buffer between themselves and the actual Internet.

00:38:33.000 You can also use proxy servers.

00:38:36.000 Startpage has a proxy server built in.

00:38:38.000 A lot of people don't realize that, that when you search with Startpage, the private search engine that searches Google for you, But then strips out all the details and erases all records of your visit that I helped to create, so full disclosure there.

00:38:51.000 When you use Startpage, among your Startpage search results, if you look underneath the results, you'll actually see it says, View by XQuick Proxy.

00:38:59.000 And if you just want to visit a website privately, and I frequently do this if I'm visiting the National Institutes of Health looking up cancer research, for example, because I don't particularly want to send them my personal information or pick up one of their tracking cookies.

00:39:12.000 What I'll do is I'll do the search on StarPage.

00:39:14.000 I'll get the results and then I'll click View by XQuick Proxy of, you know, let's say NIH.gov.

00:39:22.000 And when that information comes back, it's been filtered through StarPage.

00:39:25.000 So StarPage goes out, loads the third-party website you want to see onto the StarPage servers, serves it to you, and then deletes all records that you've been there.

00:39:33.000 The Onion Router is similar.

00:39:35.000 I've heard good things.

00:39:37.000 In fact, my husband has just recently installed Ghostory on my computer to strip out a lot of the third-party tracking cookies and other observation.

00:39:47.000 And, you know, one of the key places is your ISP.

00:39:50.000 That's one of the weak links because your ISP is aware of all the websites that you're visiting unless they're HTTPS encrypted.

00:39:58.000 So Startpage was actually the first search engine to incorporate HTTPS or SSL encryption just by default, but it means that your ISP can't observe what you're doing.

00:40:08.000 And one of the things I want to encourage Startpage to develop as soon as we get our private email out there, the alternative to Gmail, is I want to encourage Startpage to develop a DNS lookup service because the DNS is another place where every website that you're visiting, it's got to be resolved.

00:40:24.000 They've got to resolve the DNS address, the IP address, and that's all being recorded as well.

00:40:30.000 So it's a huge question.

00:40:32.000 We could probably do three hours just on that alone, Noel, but I would say just keep an eye on what StarPage is doing because we're working on a lot of those privacy products.

00:40:42.000 Thank you so much.

00:40:43.000 What was that program you just mentioned about the cookies?

00:40:45.000 I've been aware about cookies as well.

00:40:46.000 Did you say Ghosterly?

00:40:48.000 Ghostery.

00:40:49.000 Yeah.

00:40:50.000 G-H-O-S-T-E-R-Y. 1.00

00:40:52.000 Ghostery.

00:40:54.000 And I haven't sat down, I've been in a whirlwind lately, so I've not sat down to do the full top-to-bottom review, but my husband has, and he thought it was good enough to put it on our office computers and our home computers.

00:41:06.000 And it's been kind of cool, because I get less garbage.

00:41:11.000 So, check that one out, too, and I'll keep folks posted on that.

00:41:15.000 My website, by the way, KMAShow.com.

00:41:19.000 These are the kinds of things I talk about on my radio show.

00:41:22.000 So, if you're interested in that kind of information, as it crosses my desk, that's usually where I get it out to folks.

00:41:28.000 So, thanks for the call, Noel.

00:41:29.000 I appreciate your interest.

00:41:31.000 Let's go to Zach, listening in Tennessee.

00:41:33.000 Good afternoon, Zach, or good morning, wherever you are.

00:41:37.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:41:38.000 First of all, I want to start out and say that you do a great job with your analysis.

00:41:41.000 The way that you're kind of calm, like the Hagmans. 1.00

00:41:43.000 I think a lot of people like Alex's style, like I do, because they're either football players or military, but for a lot of the women and people who aren't awake yet, I think your style is really good.

00:41:53.000 And I was going to ask you... No, thank you.

00:41:56.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:41:56.000 Did you hear Mike Adams a couple weeks ago and Alex Jones, he was talking about, you know, it'll be amazing if we can even survive the next 50 years.

00:42:05.000 And then I heard you talking to Alex about Ray Kurzweil.

00:42:09.000 I didn't know if you saw the Sunday, February 24th edition of Coast to Coast AM, but he was on there and they were talking about, you know, having these chips that were the size of blood cells.

00:42:21.000 By the time 2030 rolls around, that's only 17 years off.

00:42:29.000 That kind of correlates with what Mike Adams said about surviving the next 50 years.

00:42:33.000 It depends on what you mean by surviving.

00:42:37.000 I think everybody feels like we're really starting to move very quickly in a particular direction.

00:42:43.000 Ray Kurzweil is interesting because his book, The Singularity, it starts off, even if you don't read the whole book, if you can just read the first chapter, It starts off talking about what an exponential growth curve looks like.

00:42:55.000 And for people who aren't mathematically inclined, it essentially means that for us to double the amount of technology we had back in, oh I don't know, 5,000 BC, took like a thousand years or 3,000 whatever, and then to double it, it begins doubling in shorter and shorter increments of time.

00:43:12.000 So all of the technology, I'm making these numbers up, but like between 1800 and 1900 you had a doubling and now you're having this doubling literally within a matter of weeks or even days where we are absolutely at this exponential fast pace and his whole theory here about the singularity is that it is going to begin increasing at a rate that we humanly can't keep track of.

00:43:36.000 And that we will actually have to incorporate the computer network inside of our own brains or chips in our brains to even keep track of the pace of technological change.

00:43:46.000 And that at some point, you talk about survival, at some point we will dump what he refers to, I'll paraphrase here, but basically these meat packages that we walk around in called bodies, and we will upload ourselves into This gigantic virtual matrix that's this computer network and once we're in that it won't matter if the earth becomes too polluted to live on because we will all just be bits and bytes in some vast giant computerized brain.

00:44:13.000 Now what I think is so interesting about that is that it pretty much does correspond to what the Bible talks about as well in the book of Revelation that there's going to be a time when everything is going to become numerical.

00:44:23.000 We're going to have these numbers in our right hands or our foreheads And when we take that, or when we bow down to that, when we become a part of that, when we worship that, that that's pretty much all she wrote.

00:44:35.000 At least in terms of your ability to ever come in contact with God, to say the least.

00:44:41.000 And I think the two are one and the same, I really do.

00:44:43.000 I believe that this whole notion of uploading yourself for safekeeping or immortality into the computer system, Is going to be a form of handing your soul, literally removing your soul from your body and handing it over to this thing we're building.

00:44:59.000 And the thing we're building, I think, as I mentioned on Alex's show last week, I think what we're building is the body of the beast.

00:45:04.000 I think we're actually building the thing that this dark spirit is going to inhabit.

00:45:08.000 So yeah, the future, I don't know.

00:45:11.000 People say, is it coming tomorrow?

00:45:12.000 When's it all going to end?

00:45:14.000 And I say, we really don't know.

00:45:17.000 We don't.

00:45:17.000 It could be thousands of years.

00:45:18.000 It could be a handful of years.

00:45:21.000 But I will say this, we are the first generation to ever live on planet Earth that has the ability to implement the Mark of the Beast.

00:45:27.000 And that's happened since I became an activist in 1999.

00:45:30.000 I have watched it happen just in the last 12, 13 years that we have that ability.

00:45:35.000 So it's happening really quickly.

00:45:37.000 I'm with you there.

00:45:39.000 The way he was trying to sell it is that your brain can only take in, like you said, like 300 million items of information, and after that you have to archive and dismiss it.

00:45:48.000 So he was basically saying that by, you know, taking these blood-sized, or blood cell-sized chips that, you know, like you said, it's just like if you re-watch The Matrix, how they upload into The Matrix and get all these programs and software, but if you look at The Matrix... Give it to me!

00:46:02.000 At that point, are you even human anymore?

00:46:04.000 Ray Kurzweil, and there's another guy named Peter Cochran, C-O-C-H-R-A-N-E, he has a blog, he's with British Telecom, he's kind of the Ray Kurzweil of England, and he actually wrote this really creepy blog entry that talks about how when his dad died, that he would have given anything.

00:46:22.000 And, you know, anytime you say I'd give anything...

00:46:25.000 You know, cue the dark music, right?

00:46:27.000 He said he would give anything to remain in contact with that consciousness that was his father.

00:46:32.000 And, you know, once you start talking about trying to revive the dead or staying in contact with the dead, then you open yourself up to all kinds of disturbing things.

00:46:39.000 And what he, in this article, talks about Is how we will all become one single unified consciousness across not just the globe but the universe.

00:46:50.000 And then we will travel out into the universe looking for host bodies to inhabit.

00:46:56.000 Now this is not a religious guy, this is a technologist.

00:46:59.000 So this whole idea that your brain can't contain it all or your body can't even contain your own brain, that you're going to have to get out there and become sort of at one with this global entity or this universal entity, this universal consciousness.

00:47:13.000 And it all ties in with the age of Aquarius people and the New Age people. 0.98

00:47:16.000 We're all going to have some kind of enlightenment.

00:47:17.000 There's going to be some event and we're all going to come together.

00:47:21.000 And that sounds really beautiful when you think about ending war and world peace and such, but it starts sounding really scary when you actually look at what the technologists are saying they want to do.

00:47:31.000 And just for people who aren't aware, Ray Kurzweil is now the Director of Engineering for Google.

00:47:37.000 So these crazy ideas that I'm talking about, even this Peter Cochran guy, he's the technologist for British Telecom, or was for many years.

00:47:46.000 They're not bizarre out there philosophers.

00:47:50.000 It's not David Icke making these statements.

00:47:53.000 And I don't mean to imply he's bizarre or otherwise.

00:47:55.000 Make your own opinions on that.

00:47:56.000 But he's more of a thinker of what's the future going to look like.

00:48:00.000 These other guys are technologists with their hands actually on the power to implement it through Google and elsewhere.

00:48:06.000 So, Zach, you know, take a look at Google Glass.

00:48:09.000 This idea of a pair of glasses that you're just going to wear that will filter all of your experiences up into the cloud as you experience them.

00:48:16.000 We're already there.

00:48:17.000 You know, it's happening as we go.

00:48:19.000 Hey, listen, I appreciate the call.

00:48:21.000 Thanks for getting me off into some of that futuristic stuff, because it's really relevant and we all feel it.

00:48:28.000 All right, let's go to Dave, listening in Arizona.

00:48:30.000 Hi, Dave.

00:48:31.000 Oh, hi, Catherine.

00:48:33.000 Thank you for having me on.

00:48:36.000 Are you still there?

00:48:37.000 Appreciate the call.

00:48:37.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:48:38.000 Go ahead.

00:48:38.000 Okay, okay, good.

00:48:40.000 Well, I'm going to hit you with a shocker and then I'm going to tell you the solution.

00:48:45.000 The shocker is, I believe, the Mark of the Beast is already implemented.

00:48:51.000 And, for example, I'm going to ask you a question here.

00:48:53.000 Do you know the four ways that we can be marked in order that we will have to be able to buy and sell?

00:49:01.000 Well there's one, I'm going to jump in here before you get into that and tell you that there is one key component of the Mark of the Beast which is a worship component.

00:49:10.000 That when you read, and let me tell everybody where it is, the last book of the Bible, Revelation, you can remember the unlucky number 13.

00:49:15.000 So it's in chapter 13.

00:49:17.000 It's the last three verses in chapter 13.

00:49:20.000 So go to the end of the Bible and then go to the end of chapter 13.

00:49:24.000 And it talks about a time when all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and bond or imprisoned or enslaved, will be caused to have a number on their right hand or their forehead without which they cannot buy and sell.

00:49:35.000 And then in order to receive that, they will have to worship the beast or his image.

00:49:40.000 So Dave, I know lots of people contact me and they say, well it's Sunday worship, that's the seven-day Adventist.

00:49:45.000 Lots of people say, well it's being Catholic or whatever.

00:49:47.000 There's a million different explanations.

00:49:49.000 But I would have to ask you, whatever it is that you're taking a number to do, it's not involving worship, at least not yet.

00:49:56.000 I don't know anybody bowing the knee and making a prayer before receiving these numbers.

00:50:01.000 Okay, let me finish this now.

00:50:01.000 Would you agree?

00:50:04.000 Okay, if you go to Deuteronomy, the Lord asked his people to put his commandments In their frontlets, which is between the eyes, it's in the pineal gland.

00:50:14.000 And he also said, bear them as a sign upon thine hand.

00:50:17.000 What that means is we know the Ten Commandments, right?

00:50:22.000 And we do the Ten Commandments so that people can see us following the Ten Commandments when we do something that we obey God.

00:50:33.000 Well, I'm trying to tie this in and we're about to come up on a break here in just a second, so I wanted to give you a chance.

00:50:37.000 How does this tie in with the Mark?

00:50:39.000 Okay, the mark of the beast is we also have to have the name or the number.

00:50:43.000 Okay, do you say that you are a U.S.

00:50:46.000 citizen on your taxes?

00:50:48.000 There's no warship there, Dave.

00:50:50.000 That's where... Well, I'll tell you what.

00:50:51.000 Drop me an email.

00:50:52.000 KMA at spychips.com.

00:50:54.000 I'd love to talk to you further about this.

00:50:56.000 Drop me an email.

00:50:56.000 That's the best way to reach me or call into my show.

00:50:59.000 Alright, we'll be right back with more of your calls.

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00:54:57.000 Katherine Albrecht here with you, filling in for Alex Jones.

00:55:00.000 This is, of course, the Alex Jones Show.

00:55:03.000 I want to encourage you to swing by InfoWars.com for all this information.

00:55:07.000 Can be found right at your fingertips and it's a blessing that it can.

00:55:10.000 Let's hang on to that ability, folks.

00:55:12.000 As they start talking about censoring the Internet, as they start talking about protecting the children, we've got to be there saying, I don't care what you do, but don't take away my Internet and don't tax it.

00:55:23.000 Don't put any kind of restrictions on making me use some kind of biometric or fingerprint or iris scan to access my own Internet.

00:55:33.000 That is the direction we want to go, of course.

00:55:35.000 That's exactly what they're going to do.

00:55:37.000 They always step in and say, well, for efficiency or for security, one or the other.

00:55:41.000 They're the two big watchwords.

00:55:43.000 We need to fill in the blank.

00:55:46.000 And they're going to push it.

00:55:47.000 And they're going to push it hard.

00:55:48.000 In fact, there's a new proposal over in Europe to get rid of pornography on the Internet.

00:55:53.000 You know, hey, that might be a good thing.

00:55:55.000 I don't know.

00:55:55.000 There's a proposal out of Berkeley wanting to put taxes on email to fund the Postal Service.

00:56:01.000 All right, well, let's look at both of those on the face.

00:56:03.000 You may say, well, arguments in pro, arguments con, First Amendment.

00:56:07.000 They don't have that over in Europe, by the way.

00:56:09.000 But you can look at that.

00:56:10.000 But then you've got to realize what's the real agenda underneath that.

00:56:13.000 And the real agenda under it is they want to control, watch, monitor, and ultimately take away your right to hear radio programs like this and to go online and get the kind of information that you can get at Infowars.com.

00:56:25.000 So say no to it, fight back against it.

00:56:27.000 Alright, let's see if we can fit in one or two more phone calls here in the last couple of minutes of this hour of the show.

00:56:32.000 Let's go to Terry, listening in Washington.

00:56:35.000 Hi Terry.

00:56:36.000 Gary, how you doing?

00:56:38.000 Good, go right ahead.

00:56:39.000 Hey, you've got to admit that after September 11th, the world as we know it has changed.

00:56:50.000 I would say absolutely, and you know, a bunch of us, including Alex, we were predicting this long before September 11th happened, that there was a plan afoot to have some major event occur that would enable them to take away our freedoms.

00:57:05.000 So it's unfolding just the way we thought it would.

00:57:07.000 We just didn't know what the event was going to be.

00:57:09.000 So yeah, I'm totally with you.

00:57:11.000 September 11th changed a lot.

00:57:14.000 Go ahead. 1.00

00:57:15.000 And the PSA just made the biggest, most stupid mistake they ever made. 1.00

00:57:19.000 How so? 1.00

00:57:20.000 To allow knives on the planes.

00:57:23.000 Knives is what took the planes down.

00:57:26.000 Do you really believe that?

00:57:27.000 Because I've got to tell you, when I go on the plane, and I just want to say this, Terry, I carry a purse with me.

00:57:32.000 My purse has like underwire in it.

00:57:35.000 In fact, my bra has underwire in it, or at least did before I got breast cancer.

00:57:39.000 You know, I could sharpen that into a knife.

00:57:42.000 I mean, if you want to take a knife on the plane, there's a thousand and one ways that you could take a sharpened metal object onto the plane.

00:57:48.000 The fact that we're not seeing planes falling out of the sky left and right is, to my mind, evidence of exactly what Bruce Schneier, security expert, talks about in his new book.

00:57:57.000 There really isn't a threat out there.

00:58:00.000 Because if there was, I mean, my gosh, you could poison the water supplies, you could be taking people down left and right.

00:58:05.000 There's a thousand and one ways that terrorists could absolutely be destroying this country.

00:58:09.000 And the fact that it's not happening, to my mind, is absolutely evidence that it's not real.

00:58:15.000 It isn't.

00:58:15.000 I mean, I could take my barrette and gouge your eye out.

00:58:18.000 I could take a pencil out of my purse and jab it into your jugular vein. 0.99

00:58:23.000 All right, we're coming up on a break.

00:58:24.000 So sorry.

00:58:25.000 This program always comes to a very quick end at that first hour.

00:58:29.000 But when I come back on the other end, we're going to talk cancer treatments, alternative complementary medicine, with John Salim.

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01:00:01.000 Big Brother.

01:00:08.000 Mainstream media.

01:00:10.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:12.000 You want answers?

01:00:14.000 Well, so does he.

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01:00:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:24.000 It is the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:34.000 I'm your guest host, Dr. Kathryn Albrecht.

01:00:36.000 So glad to be here with you.

01:00:37.000 Alex is out, I don't know, wrestling wild boars with pen knives.

01:00:43.000 Shooting off his .50 caliber rifle.

01:00:45.000 I don't know how he's blowing off steam, but I'm glad he's getting a little bit of a break.

01:00:48.000 He will be back with you again, first thing Monday morning, leading the resistance yet again.

01:00:52.000 Tan rested and ready.

01:00:55.000 He is in great shape, reporting in saying he's having a blast out there doing whatever it is he's doing while we Hold the fort down for his return.

01:01:05.000 All right, we do have a full bank of phone calls.

01:01:06.000 And before we get into our topic of this hour, I do want to see if we can bring just a couple of them up.

01:01:11.000 Callers, do me a favor and see if you can get to your point quickly.

01:01:14.000 Let's go to Chris listening in New Mexico.

01:01:16.000 Hey, Chris.

01:01:18.000 Hello, Catherine.

01:01:19.000 Hi there.

01:01:19.000 What's on your mind?

01:01:20.000 Yes.

01:01:21.000 Yeah, I just wanted to hopefully attempt to dispel a persistent myth in reference to the two billion rounds of ammunition purchased by DHS.

01:01:30.000 Well, it is, of course, concerning that they purchased that quantity.

01:01:34.000 I wanted to Just basically explain that from since before September 11, DHS as well as what was previously INS and some other agencies do indeed use hollow point rounds for target practice.

01:01:50.000 Is this where they're shooting at the kids and the grandmas in the target practice? 0.88

01:01:56.000 Yeah, I think that's a more recent thing, but most definitely.

01:01:59.000 That's a little creepy, yeah.

01:02:02.000 Let me ask you this, Chris, and I don't know if you work for DHS or where you have this information, but what is it that DHS needs to be shooting at, I ask you?

01:02:10.000 If they're out there doing target practice with hollow point bullets, first of all, those suckers are not things you would ever want to aim at a human being, unless you were really up against a pretty hardcore enemy.

01:02:22.000 What are they looking at?

01:02:23.000 Billions? 0.59

01:02:23.000 This is enough ammunition to kill every single one of us in America multiple times over. 0.59

01:02:29.000 You can't even shoot that much ammo at a target.

01:02:32.000 So who's the enemy that they're going to need to shoot with this stuff?

01:02:36.000 Correct, yeah, and like I said, it is most definitely a concern of the quantity that they're purchasing, but in most law enforcement circles, as law enforcement officers will explain, hollow point rounds are designed to not go through the target and hit a second innocent bystander.

01:02:52.000 They're designed to break up and flower out into the target. 0.96

01:02:56.000 That is why they don't allow agents to use the full metal jacket target rounds because they're afraid that upon leaving the range, and I'm sure it had happened before, before they change this policy, like I said, it's been over 13 years now, that going home, on your way home, or maybe later on in the future, get into an incident and you forget to have switched out your rounds to the hollow points, You get into a situation, you end up firing those full metal jackets, and they go through the person you're shooting and, you know, kill the person behind them.

01:03:25.000 My gosh, though, you know, you take a look at what happened in Tiananmen Square, because that's the last time I'm aware of hollow point bullets being used against civilians.

01:03:33.000 And the Chinese military actually shot their own, you know, perfectly peaceful protesters in the back with hollow point bullets.

01:03:42.000 You can actually do a star page search on it and see photographs of what a human body looks like when it's been blasted with a hollow point bullet.

01:03:49.000 So, I'm not a big fan of people walking around with those things in the chamber.

01:03:53.000 I just, you know, the whole concept of that is a little bit mortifying.

01:03:57.000 And I won't even say a little bit.

01:03:59.000 We've got now the CIA chief, we've got the Attorney General really struggling to even make the point that our own military is not allowed to just kill us in cold blood without any kind of due process in our own country.

01:04:11.000 So, thank you for the insight there, but I've got to tell you, I just find the whole thing super creepy.

01:04:17.000 Alright, let's see.

01:04:19.000 I want to apologize to Ryan, Dan, and Scarfie.

01:04:22.000 It looks like we're probably not going to get to all of these phone calls just because we're coming up on a break here.

01:04:27.000 This is the very short segment as we go into the second hour of the program.

01:04:31.000 I want to let you know that my guest this hour is going to be John Saline.

01:04:35.000 We're going to be talking about complementary treatments that can help you get through cancer treatment and more, boost your immune system, keep you healthy, and believe me, I know of what I speak because I've been down that road before.

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01:08:20.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:24.000 Hey, it is Friday, folks.

01:08:31.000 Heading into a weekend.

01:08:33.000 Can't wait.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, it's been a long week.

01:08:35.000 Lots of stuff going on this week.

01:08:37.000 Lots of stuff going on.

01:08:38.000 I don't know, just kind of, it's swirling all around you, isn't it?

01:08:41.000 You blink and 50 stories go right on past you.

01:08:45.000 Yeah, the big news, well, we've got so much big news, but I can My hat is off this week to Rand Paul.

01:08:53.000 You know, a good old-fashioned filibuster, what do you get up there and talk 13 hours about drones?

01:08:59.000 It's about time.

01:09:00.000 Do you even think that that hearing would have had, do you think any of the mainstream media would have even covered the issue of drones being able to kill people on American soil, American citizens without due process if it hadn't been for him standing up and doing that?

01:09:15.000 You know, I know a lot of folks, myself included, have given Rand Paul a really hard time because he's not Ron Paul.

01:09:21.000 But I will say, you know, hats off, well done.

01:09:24.000 So, on my show I do Good News Friday every Friday.

01:09:26.000 That's one of the things I'm going to be talking about this afternoon on my show.

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01:09:35.000 All right, well, let me give you just a little bit of background about this hour's guest.

01:09:39.000 Joining me this hour, John Saline.

01:09:41.000 He is an expert on mushrooms and their use for medicinal purposes.

01:09:46.000 And I've taken a lot of flak over the last couple of years since I was diagnosed with breast cancer for doing the conventional treatment and also for doing complementary treatment.

01:09:55.000 Let me give you, let me explain what I mean.

01:09:58.000 When I was diagnosed with breast cancer, I found a lump in my breast the size of a chicken's egg.

01:10:04.000 Literally, like, you know, you open up the dozen eggs, that's how big this lump was.

01:10:08.000 Don't ask me how I didn't find it before.

01:10:10.000 I could kick myself a thousand times over that I didn't, but I'd never had a mammogram, wasn't old enough to qualify for the average screening, and by the time I found it, it was a big moment of, holy cow!

01:10:21.000 Now, I've always been Ms.

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01:10:24.000 I do not eat hydrogenated anything.

01:10:27.000 I avoid soy and everything GMO.

01:10:29.000 I am about as clean of an eater and as clean of a liver.

01:10:35.000 I probably have a clean liver too, but I live well and really try to avoid all things processed and all things nasty.

01:10:43.000 Nevertheless, I developed breast cancer and I've got some family history.

01:10:46.000 My aunt unfortunately passed away from it.

01:10:49.000 My mother's aunt and possibly my mother's grandmother also passed away from breast cancer.

01:10:54.000 So I was probably in the crosshairs without even realizing it.

01:10:57.000 But when I developed breast cancer, The question I had to ask myself is, okay, now what?

01:11:03.000 And it's the question everybody, one in three of us, by the way, is going to get cancer.

01:11:07.000 So, if you're fortunate enough not to have experienced this, I absolutely pray that you never do, but I'm betting that you either know somebody or will know somebody who's going to go down this road because one in three of us is getting it.

01:11:18.000 One in eight women is getting breast cancer nowadays. 0.99

01:11:21.000 So, as I had to make the decision, what am I going to do?

01:11:27.000 Basically, I had competing things from both sides.

01:11:29.000 I live and work in this alternative media world myself, and I'd always heard, well, don't cut, burn, and poison the cancer.

01:11:37.000 You've got to instead do all these natural things to build yourself up.

01:11:40.000 Long story short, I took a month, and I lived about as clean as a human being can live.

01:11:44.000 I lived on raw, natural, organic juices, celery juice and carrot juice.

01:11:48.000 We bought a juicer.

01:11:50.000 I did hypnosis.

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01:11:53.000 I did relaxation.

01:11:54.000 I did massages.

01:11:56.000 I did every possible thing a human being can possibly do.

01:11:59.000 I took every supplement that's known to reduce cancer.

01:12:02.000 And then I paid $700 to go back in and have this huge tumor re-evaluated to see if it had shrunk.

01:12:08.000 Well, not only had it not shrunk, it may have even grown a little bit.

01:12:11.000 And it was at that point I said, you know what?

01:12:13.000 I can't mess around with this.

01:12:14.000 Because if it hasn't already metastasized, it's right on the edge of doing so.

01:12:18.000 Because it's huge!

01:12:19.000 I've got to get it out.

01:12:21.000 So, long story short, I did two years of very aggressive, conventional therapy.

01:12:27.000 But, now here's where I get all the grief.

01:12:29.000 Well, you shouldn't have done that.

01:12:29.000 You should have alkalized your body, or you should have done, you know, fill-in-the-blank alternative natural treatment in Mexico, or Tijuana Clinic, this and that.

01:12:37.000 My aunt did that, and she died.

01:12:39.000 She did all-natural, you know, kombucha, and garlic, and she had this guru, and she did what the guru said, and it didn't work.

01:12:49.000 And in many cases, it doesn't work.

01:12:51.000 Well, I didn't want to be a statistic.

01:12:53.000 And when I looked at my stats, my chances of surviving this cancer without conventional treatment were less than 1%.

01:12:59.000 It was 0.8% that I would still be alive and kicking in 10 years.

01:13:04.000 Those statistics got my attention, and if there's one thing I know how to do, it's research.

01:13:10.000 Just to write the book Spy Chips, our expose on RFID, my co-author Liz and I, we went through 30,000 documents to write that book, Spy Chips.

01:13:18.000 By the way, if you haven't read it, get a copy out of your library and sit down with it, because it's stuff you need to know.

01:13:23.000 But if I could read 30,000 documents to write a book on RFID, you better believe I could sit down and read way more than that in order to save my own life.

01:13:32.000 So I did.

01:13:34.000 And what I came up with is a new way, or a different way, of navigating this whole cancer experience, which is taking the best of both worlds.

01:13:44.000 So at the same time I'm getting flack from all my listeners, Catherine, how could you possibly do chemo?

01:13:49.000 At the same time I was getting that, My oncologist was giving me grief because I was complementary.

01:13:55.000 I was adding in all of the resveratrol and the curcumin and the hawthorn for heart function and acetylcholine for neuropathy and you name it.

01:14:05.000 So I take between 30 and 40 pills a day of complementary herbs and other supplements in order to make sure that I never see this beast again.

01:14:15.000 Now, both sides are at war.

01:14:17.000 The conventional oncologist wants nothing to do with all of my herbal supplements, and all the alternative people want nothing to do with all the information that I've gleaned about radiation and chemotherapy.

01:14:29.000 And I believe that we need to have a better merging of those two.

01:14:33.000 Joining me this hour is John Saline of Mushroom Science.

01:14:37.000 When my husband was trying to figure out why my white blood cell counts were dropping so low after chemo, my wonderful husband went online and did some research and he discovered that over in Japan they have taken a purified form of Coriolis mushroom They have purified it and extracted it into something that they literally hang in the chemo center in an IV bag and administer to patients to keep their white blood cell count from dropping.

01:15:04.000 And that is how I wound up discovering the whole thing about mushrooms and discovering John Saline.

01:15:10.000 And with no further ado, let me go ahead and welcome John Saline to the program.

01:15:14.000 Hello, John.

01:15:14.000 Hi, Catherine.

01:15:15.000 How are you doing?

01:15:16.000 Hey, it is great to have you here with me.

01:15:18.000 So, I know that was kind of a lengthy introduction here, but I gotta tell you, ever since I found the Coriolis, when I was going through this more treatment than my oncologist has ever given to anyone, she told me.

01:15:30.000 As I was going through that, one of the key problems that you have when you do the conventional therapy, it's hard on the body.

01:15:35.000 And one of the ways it's hard is the white blood cell count.

01:15:38.000 So, talk to us about what they've discovered over in Japan with the PSK.

01:15:42.000 Well, Japan's medical system is really different than ours.

01:15:48.000 They have a long tradition of herbal medicine, and China, Japan, Korea, they have allowed their herbal medicine to co-evolve with the advent of allopathic or modern medicine, surgery, pharmaceuticals, you know, that kind of approach.

01:16:07.000 And back in the 60s, When a chemist for Corea Incorporated, a pharmaceutical company, his neighbor was basically sent home to die.

01:16:23.000 He had stomach cancer and they said, well, we've done what we can do.

01:16:26.000 Go get your affairs in order.

01:16:30.000 So this guy's neighbor was running all over the neighborhood picking a certain mushroom and making tea out of it and drinking it.

01:16:37.000 Lo and behold, he got better.

01:16:39.000 So the chemist You know, it took a while, but he convinced his boss, the people above him, like, hey, we need to take a look at this.

01:16:50.000 And, well, they started researching it, and researching other mushrooms as well.

01:16:56.000 What they refer to as medicinal, or tonic, that deliver tonic benefits, as defined in Chinese and Japanese herbalism.

01:17:06.000 And they found that these mushrooms, They have polysaccharides in their cell walls, and these polysaccharides contain beta-glucans.

01:17:18.000 And they can, because your white blood cells are basically your cellular immune system.

01:17:25.000 Right, so the white blood cells are the immune cells that come out and attack the foreign invaders.

01:17:31.000 Correct.

01:17:31.000 And in the case of cancer...

01:17:36.000 Right, against pathogens, viruses and bacteria, but also against cancer cells as well.

01:17:43.000 Well, but it is.

01:17:44.000 I mean, you know, it's always important to have a healthy immune system.

01:17:47.000 Absolutely.

01:17:48.000 More so than when you're dealing with a serious issue like you are.

01:17:56.000 We have immune cells.

01:17:58.000 They don't really know why.

01:17:59.000 I mean, they know how it works.

01:18:01.000 That's not exactly why it works.

01:18:04.000 We have immune cells that are hardwired to respond to these beta-glucans.

01:18:12.000 And this is what I find so interesting, that the reason the mushrooms work, and it took me a while to really understand all of this with your help, is that when you eat the hot water extract of these mushrooms, the polysaccharides, which are little molecules in the beta-glucans inside of there, they have a particular shape, if I have this understood correctly.

01:18:35.000 Yeah, basically a physical trigger.

01:18:38.000 A pathogen-associated molecular pattern.

01:18:40.000 Now that sounds kind of spooky, but your non-specific immune response has to very quickly, it casts a wide net, and has to very quickly look at something.

01:18:53.000 Does that belong here?

01:18:54.000 Yes or no?

01:18:55.000 Is it a threat?

01:18:56.000 Yes or no?

01:18:59.000 So, just to summarize this, when you take in one of these beta-glucans, one of the polysaccharides, or the little natural sugars that occur in these mushrooms, the body says, holy cow, this is a pathogen.

01:19:12.000 It looks like a pathogen because of the shape of it.

01:19:15.000 So, the immune cells then get stimulated.

01:19:17.000 They start pouring out of the bone marrow.

01:19:20.000 That's the whole key is that the cytotoxin, the response created, is effective.

01:19:22.000 But when they get there, they take a look and go, wait a minute, this isn't a pathogen.

01:19:26.000 This is just a piece of food.

01:19:28.000 And now that we're here, now that we've created this huge army, what else can we attack?

01:19:34.000 That's the whole key is that the cytotoxic, the response created, is effective against all pathogens.

01:19:43.000 Well, that's the thing I personally experienced.

01:19:48.000 I want to let listeners know exactly how this benefits cancer patients going through chemotherapy when we come back.

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01:25:09.000 It is Good News Friday, and we're talking this hour about an inexpensive alternative to those $3,000 new Lasta shots or new Pigeon shots.

01:25:21.000 If you know what I'm talking about, anybody out there, I certainly went through this.

01:25:25.000 When they give you chemotherapy, let me just give you the background as to why this is so important.

01:25:30.000 When they give you chemo, the chemo works by destroying fast dividing cells.

01:25:36.000 And cancer cells, the reason they are cancer cells is because they're multiplying and dividing rapidly out of control.

01:25:43.000 So what the chemo does is it goes in and it makes that cell division process not work.

01:25:49.000 So, any cells that are in the process of dividing as the chemo goes through the body, the couple of hours that it's active, those cells will die.

01:25:57.000 That's why women lose their hair. 1.00

01:25:58.000 It's one of the reasons why you have the nausea and some of the side effects of chemotherapy, which they've gotten really good at mitigating, by the way.

01:26:04.000 But that's how chemotherapy destroys cancerous tumors because they are fast replicating.

01:26:10.000 That's how you get a tumor.

01:26:11.000 It's something that's grow, grow, grow, grow, grow until it's big enough to be some huge lump that then takes out your bodily function.

01:26:18.000 So, in this process, unfortunately, one of the sets of cells that is continually dividing are your white blood cells inside of your bone marrow.

01:26:27.000 And as they're dividing to create your immune system, then the chemo goes in and blasts them out.

01:26:34.000 And so, one of the side effects of chemotherapy is a drop in your white blood cell count.

01:26:38.000 It's called neutropenia.

01:26:40.000 And so, every time that I would have a chemotherapy treatment, which I believe absolutely saved my life, Every time I would have that life-saving treatment, the downside would be my immune function would drop through the floor.

01:26:52.000 I wound up with colds and flus and infections and strep infections bursting out of my skin.

01:26:59.000 It was a nightmare because every pathogen that came down the pike I was susceptible to it because I didn't have the white blood cells. 0.93

01:27:05.000 So what they do at the chemo center is they send you in for a $3,000 shot called either Nulastro or Nupigen.

01:27:13.000 This $3,000 shot, you have to go in 72 hours or what was it, 48, 72 hours after your chemo treatment.

01:27:17.000 what was it, 48, 72 hours after your chemo treatment.

01:27:20.000 They give you this $3,000 shot.

01:27:23.000 And by the way, not all women's insurance will even cover this.

01:27:27.000 Um, When they give you the shot, it's super painful going in, and then you have to take pain pills because it forces the bone marrow to produce the white blood cells.

01:27:37.000 It's extremely painful.

01:27:38.000 It's like the worst cramps you can ever imagine in your arm, especially in your legs.

01:27:43.000 That's where you've got the long bone marrow.

01:27:45.000 So that is the standard way that we do it here in the U.S.

01:27:49.000 It's costing a fortune.

01:27:50.000 Take every patient who's receiving chemotherapy, multiply it out by four or eight treatments, and then multiply that out by all of the people who have cancer, and you can only imagine the amount of money being spent on this.

01:28:01.000 Well, in Japan, as we were discussing with John Selene of Mushroom Science, in Japan they don't do that.

01:28:06.000 They give people, right in the chemo center, in the IV bag, something called PSK.

01:28:12.000 That's P as in Peter, S as in Sam, K as in Catherine.

01:28:16.000 PSK, which is nothing more than a purified extract of Coriolis mushroom.

01:28:21.000 It's got the polysaccharides that we're talking about.

01:28:24.000 It's got the shape that triggers the immune system naturally on its own to stimulate those cells to begin pouring out of the bone marrow and then go after what it needs to go after.

01:28:34.000 So, long story short, in my case, I did the new Aster shot for the first couple of times, and in several cases it wasn't even working.

01:28:40.000 It wasn't bringing my blood cell count up to where it needed to be.

01:28:44.000 My husband went online, he discovered that there's only one company on the planet, essentially, that makes the right form of this, the hot water extract.

01:28:51.000 That company is called Mushroom Science.

01:28:54.000 He discovered that the Coriolis mushroom, I'll spell it for you, C-O-R-I-O-L-U-S, the Coriolis mushroom Is the over-the-counter, you-can-just-buy-it-yourself version of PSK.

01:29:07.000 So he bought it.

01:29:08.000 He went to Mushroom Science.

01:29:09.000 I think it's like buy five, get one free, I think.

01:29:12.000 And bought a case of it.

01:29:14.000 I started taking it, and sure enough, the next time I went in for my white blood cell count test, which they always do right before your next chemo, it was normal!

01:29:23.000 Not only not low, but normal, and not at the low end of normal either, right in the center of normal.

01:29:28.000 And I never again had that neutropenia problem.

01:29:31.000 So that's what enabled me to get through chemo and to not have to end the life-saving treatment, because I was able to support my immune system through the process.

01:29:40.000 So you put all that together, it's extraordinary.

01:29:43.000 Mushroom science And, uh, by the way, I blogged about this and there's a link on my website at kmashow.com if you click on the blog.

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01:35:01.000 This is Coriolis mushroom.

01:35:03.000 Super amazing stuff.

01:35:04.000 You know, I'm a kind of wear it on my sleeve Bible believing Christian.

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01:35:13.000 It's just a question of figuring out what it all is.

01:35:16.000 And the mushrooms, you know, they're out there.

01:35:18.000 Sure, and they're available and they have this incredible effect on the human body and it's positive.

01:35:24.000 They stimulate that immune system which enables you to get through chemotherapy or even if you're not going through chemo, if you're falling prey to every infection that comes down the pike. 1.00

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01:35:46.000 See, most people, you kind of have to take it on faith.

01:35:48.000 But I have the actual blood test results of when I was taking it and when I wasn't taking it.

01:35:54.000 And it essentially saved me because it enabled me to get through all of my chemotherapy treatments without having this awful drop in white blood cell count.

01:36:03.000 Alright, I want to get back to John Salin here in a moment.

01:36:05.000 I also want to let you know that if you are a cancer patient, or if you know a cancer patient who's going through this process, everybody always contacts me.

01:36:12.000 How do I get it?

01:36:13.000 How do I get it?

01:36:14.000 I have linked it on my website, on my blog actually, at KMA Show, or just my name, Catherine Albrecht, or you can go straight to MushroomScience.com.

01:36:24.000 And if you use the coupon code, Catherine, which is, I believe it's built into my site at kmashow.com, if you click the link of the Mushroom Science Coriolis box, but you can also just type it in, K-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E, if you use the coupon code, with a purchase, only if you make a purchase, you will actually, I think John, you're sending people a book?

01:36:45.000 Do you have a mushroom book that you're sending out?

01:36:47.000 Yeah, a free book by Dr. Mark Spangler.

01:36:48.000 It's The Health Benefits of Medicinal Mushrooms.

01:36:50.000 So, let's, and I want to get into that.

01:36:53.000 Let me open up the phone lines and then I want to get into some of the other health benefits because for me it's been really Coriolis and Mitochi and I take the Mitochi every day because of a lot of the research out there showing that it's just a good thing for cancer survivors to be on anyway.

01:37:08.000 So, you're kind of my expert.

01:37:09.000 I've been kind of sitting at your feet here for the last couple of years learning about this.

01:37:14.000 Phone lines 1-800-259-9231.

01:37:19.000 John, give us a sense.

01:37:20.000 When you talk about this book that people get free with a purchase, what is the information in the book that people need to know?

01:37:27.000 What are some of the high points of the medicinal impact of mushrooms?

01:37:30.000 Probably one of the most important points that Dr. Stengler makes is how to choose a properly manufactured mushroom supplement.

01:37:44.000 Unfortunately, in the U.S., the vast majority of the mushroom supplements on the market are not extracted.

01:37:54.000 They're just not going to work.

01:37:56.000 So, he teaches you what to look for on the label, which is really quite simple, but very essential.

01:38:06.000 He gives you examples, literal examples of what you want to see on the supplement pack.

01:38:11.000 That's the one part of the bottle every company must, by law, tell the truth.

01:38:17.000 Now, the key here is hot water extract, is that correct?

01:38:21.000 That's the key that makes your product different?

01:38:23.000 Yeah, or just the word extract.

01:38:25.000 And you want to see the percentage of polysaccharides.

01:38:29.000 We've known how to test for polysaccharides for half a century now.

01:38:33.000 You know, how to measure them, quantify them, test for them at our company.

01:38:37.000 We have our own lab where we have all the analytical chemistry tools to do that, and there's no good reason to leave that information off the label.

01:38:48.000 I mean, you have to know it to control your manufacturing process.

01:38:51.000 So every company should know the percentage of polysaccharides in their product.

01:38:57.000 If they're not telling you the percentage, it's not an extract, and it's not an extract, It's not something you want to use.

01:39:04.000 Well, let me get into that because one of the questions people ask is, well, hang on a second, can I just buy this and eat it?

01:39:11.000 And the answer is, you're probably not going to find Coriolis out there in your local Whole Foods.

01:39:18.000 The texture of wood.

01:39:19.000 I mean, I suppose if you put it in the crock pot for a couple of weeks, you might get it down to a point where you could chew it.

01:39:24.000 But, you know, we're using 20 to 25 kilos of dried mushrooms.

01:39:29.000 To concentrate down to one kilo of a dehydrated extract.

01:39:34.000 So, I mean, our extraction facility is basically a giant teapot, but at the end of the line, we convert it to a powder.

01:39:43.000 Too expensive to sell as a liquid.

01:39:46.000 There is one good liquid supplement on the market, which we sell on our website, Maitake Gold.

01:39:53.000 That's the one I take.

01:39:54.000 Yeah, that is the one that I take.

01:39:56.000 Well, let me explain this, because I'm actually a member of the Mycological Society of Boston, so I'm a long-time mushroomer.

01:40:04.000 My husband and I have studied mushrooms for years, and I never realized that they'd be, you know, one of the things saving my life.

01:40:10.000 But the thing people need to understand about mushrooms is that the fruit of the mushroom, the thing that you actually eat or make a tea out of or that you see growing above the ground, is just a visible fruit, almost like the apples on a tree.

01:40:22.000 That underneath there, the real mushroom organism is the mycelium.

01:40:26.000 It's the thready, it's like these long thin threads.

01:40:29.000 And that's really the organism that lives year round and lives under the ground.

01:40:34.000 And it pops up periodically, these fruits.

01:40:36.000 So you can pick all the mushrooms you want and not kill the mushroom plant, quote unquote, or the mushroom mycelium.

01:40:43.000 Without killing the fungus, but the problem with some of the other products out there, and I know on Coast to Coast recently there was a guy on talking about Coriolis and you and I were both cringing because a lot of these Coriolis supplements, I know that Mushroom Science is the only one that's the hot water extract, but some of these other supplements don't even give you the mushroom, they give you the mycelial mass, which does not contain the polysaccharides.

01:41:06.000 So how can they get away with claiming that?

01:41:08.000 The mycelium does contain the polysaccharides, but Those products, when they grow the mycelium on rice, number one, it's still 60-65% rice.

01:41:18.000 So only a third of the product roughly is mycelium.

01:41:21.000 But if it's not extracted, the cell walls are made of chitin, same thing as the lobster shell.

01:41:27.000 You know how tough those are.

01:41:29.000 Our body can't break it down, you know.

01:41:32.000 And universally, every traditional herbal practice that has used mushrooms medicinally, when they want the medicine, they throw it in the teapot.

01:41:43.000 Every study ever published, including all the data on PSK, also hot water extracted for that very reason.

01:41:51.000 Now, it's not that often that you get absolute consensus between thousands of years of verbal practice and every scientific study ever done on a particular subject, but here you have it.

01:42:04.000 Right, and this is the research that my husband did.

01:42:08.000 He's also the wonderful genius who found the tetrathioma live-date trial, the Cornell trial that I just began, that's doing copper depletion to prevent a recurrence.

01:42:17.000 So both of these things I have to say I owe to my husband because he went out there And did the hardcore research, especially the mushrooms, because I was a little bit too worn down.

01:42:25.000 Because of the white blood cell count and all the infections I was getting, I was in no position to even research.

01:42:30.000 So he went out there and said, Coriolis mushroom, but the problem is where do we get the right kind that actually matches the PSK out of Japan?

01:42:38.000 We can't order PSK.

01:42:39.000 My chemo center wasn't going to put it in an IV bag.

01:42:42.000 And then when he found you and found Mushroom Science, it was like, thank goodness that there is a supplier that's actually making that version available for the public to purchase.

01:42:51.000 So it's awesome stuff.

01:42:52.000 It's called Coriolis Mushroom.

01:42:54.000 And you've got a couple of different kinds on the website.

01:42:58.000 I have a link if people want to go directly to the one I take.

01:43:01.000 I still take it every day.

01:43:02.000 I will continue to take it every day of my life.

01:43:05.000 And if you want to know the one I'm taking, it already includes the coupon code as well.

01:43:09.000 It's at KMAShow.com and then just click on the blue link on the right that says blog.

01:43:14.000 You'll see a picture of the Coriolis box itself and when you click it, it'll take you directly to the Mushroom Science website where you can get a free book if you place an order.

01:43:23.000 All right, let's go to the phone lines.

01:43:24.000 We've got Tom holding in West Virginia.

01:43:26.000 Hi Tom, you're on with John Selene and Catherine Albrecht.

01:43:29.000 Go right ahead.

01:43:30.000 Hi John and Catherine.

01:43:31.000 I was wondering, John, if you'd heard of Cobiason?

01:43:35.000 From the 50s and 60s?

01:43:37.000 No, I have not.

01:43:39.000 Okay, well that's the same principle that was researched, you know, in the 50s.

01:43:45.000 It's based on Ectomyces bovis, which is a fungal fungus, and it was found to actually be a very strong attacker of cancer, all forms of cancer, but the FDA banned it in 1964 after a 13-year controversy.

01:44:06.000 uh... that was pretty big in the country uh... the discoverer was a uh... mycologist who studied at the uh... louis pasteur institute and um... he he discovered it basically uh... he he had the idea that uh... you know horses sometimes get this tumor on their throat and um... so he uh...

01:44:36.000 He realized that sometimes the horse will survive, but most of the time they'll die from the tumor.

01:44:45.000 It's a very, very fast-growing tumor, and it's called lumpy jaw.

01:44:51.000 And so he, well, the discoverer, his name was Stevan Jerozik, he discovered this crevice in 1951, which was a Basically, he... Well, let me hand this question back to John.

01:45:10.000 John, in terms of the mushrooms, I know that at Mushroom Science you've got a whole variety of different mushrooms that have been shown in all kinds of clinical testing to be good for a whole variety of different conditions.

01:45:22.000 As far as the FDA goes, what does the FDA have to say about mushroom supplements?

01:45:26.000 I think Tom raises an interesting point.

01:45:28.000 Well, they're classified as dietary supplements.

01:45:33.000 They wanted to regulate dietary supplements as drugs.

01:45:36.000 There are a lot of very unhappy people on all sides of all political spectrums.

01:45:44.000 So Senator Orrin Hatch from Utah and Senator Harkin from Iowa got together and passed the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994.

01:45:57.000 Which said the FDA has to regulate them as food and then come up with a set of rules for good manufacturing practices.

01:46:07.000 Sure, are they still working on that?

01:46:09.000 Have they come up with those?

01:46:11.000 The FDA was so angry that they couldn't regulate the stuff about the drugs, they ignored the law for years.

01:46:19.000 And then finally, in 2008, which was 14 years later, they started coming out with the rules.

01:46:28.000 And then 2008, it was for the really big companies, 200 and over.

01:46:33.000 2009, companies between 220 employees to 200 employees.

01:46:35.000 2009 companies between 220 employees to 200 employees, and then 2010 companies of 20 employees or less, those rules apply.

01:46:48.000 And then mainly, and you know, it's not a bad thing to have standard operating procedures and to keep the kind of paperwork that allows the FDA, regardless of what you think about them, you know.

01:47:01.000 The reason they came into being was a lot of issues with the safety of You know, it's interesting.

01:47:07.000 I was just on the Memorial Sloan Kettering website, which has just a great resource of all the alternative treatments and natural treatments and supplements and everything else.

01:47:17.000 And I strongly encourage people to check those out.

01:47:19.000 Coriolis, by the way, is on there and very highly regarded by Memorial Sloan Kettering.

01:47:24.000 So they've got all the links to the research and everything else.

01:47:26.000 But what I thought was very interesting is they talked about contamination.

01:47:30.000 There was one acai berry that was contaminated by the tryptosomes, I think, or whatever the word is, of these parasites.

01:47:38.000 Things like that, clearly you don't want to be taking acai berry supplements that are going to give you some parasitic disease.

01:47:44.000 So there is a role for that.

01:47:45.000 You have to be careful.

01:47:47.000 They're food products, which means they can harbor pathogens.

01:47:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:47:51.000 And I think one of the other ones, they were talking about kombucha that was brewed in something that had been glazed in lead, and people got lead poisoning.

01:47:59.000 So, you know, yeah, there are certain issues, but I think we all are in agreement that we don't want the FDA to say, no, you can't eat a mushroom any longer.

01:48:07.000 Hey, Tom, let me thank Tom for the phone call.

01:48:07.000 Exactly.

01:48:09.000 Let's see if we can squeeze in another one before the break.

01:48:10.000 Let's go to, let's see, Jack, listening in Illinois.

01:48:13.000 Hi, Jack, you're on with John Selene.

01:48:17.000 Hello?

01:48:17.000 Is Jack with us?

01:48:18.000 Hi, Jack, yeah, go right ahead.

01:48:20.000 Yes, we love you, we love you, we love you.

01:48:23.000 But you speak too fast for us to write what we need to write down, and we need a phone number to try to reach this product.

01:48:30.000 We're of Amish background.

01:48:32.000 Alright, John, can you give us a phone number where people can call?

01:48:35.000 And the coupon code is Catherine, so that'll get you the book.

01:48:39.000 And what's the phone number where people can call, John?

01:48:42.000 Well, first I will tell them is there is a toll-free number.

01:48:45.000 It's 888-330.

01:48:48.000 Oh, boy.

01:48:52.000 I'm going to give you the one I know for sure.

01:48:54.000 There is a code 541.

01:48:55.000 541-344-1396.

01:48:55.000 And they can give you the toll free number.

01:49:01.000 We'll grab it and give it to you.

01:49:04.000 But I have to remind people that I'm the only one there that answers technical questions.

01:49:12.000 And I will not be in the office, back in the office, until Tuesday of next week, Tuesday afternoon.

01:49:19.000 Shannon's there.

01:49:20.000 Shannon is wonderful.

01:49:23.000 The last time I talked about this on Coast to Coast, poor Shannon was absolutely swamped and asked me to tell the listeners that if you do order the supplement, try to get your order in first because the people who ordered towards the end, there was a bit of a delay.

01:49:38.000 I think you guys had to order in more products.

01:49:40.000 So it could be up to a week or so or even two or three weeks before you actually get it.

01:49:45.000 Yeah, that last show generated thousands of orders.

01:49:48.000 More than we normally process in a day.

01:49:52.000 It could take three to four days.

01:49:55.000 We're better prepared this time.

01:49:57.000 So, you can go to my website KMA Show.

01:49:59.000 K-M-A. 1.00

01:50:00.000 Those are my initials.

01:50:01.000 K-M-A Show dot com.

01:50:04.000 And then on the right hand side there is a blog link, the blue link.

01:50:09.000 And actually I think it's right on my home page.

01:50:10.000 It's actually right at KMA Show.

01:50:11.000 It's on the right hand side.

01:50:12.000 You'll see a box of the Coriolis mushroom that I take everyday.

01:50:16.000 And you can also just go directly to MushroomScience.com and the product is called Coriolis.

01:50:23.000 C-O-R-I-O-L-I-S. 1.00

01:50:26.000 Coriolis Mushroom.

01:50:27.000 Coriolis Super Strength.

01:50:28.000 The Super Strength one is the one that I take.

01:50:31.000 We can't use the word P-S-K because it's trademarked by Bayer Aspirin.

01:50:35.000 There's lots of aspirin.

01:50:39.000 Yes, and take it on an empty stomach because I didn't realize I was supposed to be doing that until recently.

01:50:44.000 So I take it in the morning on an empty stomach and then between meals because that way the polysaccharides distribute through the body and stimulate the immune system.

01:50:53.000 All right, stay tuned.

01:50:53.000 We'll be back and try to get the rest of your calls right after this.

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01:54:01.000 This is not America.

01:54:19.000 So it's like Star Page.

01:54:24.000 And you have the ability to...

01:54:28.000 Do it!

01:54:29.000 They want to take it all away.

01:54:30.000 They want to take away your alternatives on the internet.

01:54:32.000 They want to take away your alternatives through the media.

01:54:36.000 Believe me, they would love to shut down the Alex Jones Show.

01:54:40.000 I'm sure there are plots afoot right now to try to find a way to do it, but we've got this tricky little thing called the First Amendment that stands in the way of them doing that.

01:54:49.000 And as far as your alternatives for health, I'm a big believer in evidence.

01:54:55.000 So I actually got some email on my show yesterday.

01:54:57.000 I was railing against some of these charlatans with bogus cancer cures that don't do anything, that have absolutely no evidence other than a couple of smiling people who they say did great, but there's no scientific evidence.

01:55:11.000 And if there's one thing Harvard taught me, it was how to do research.

01:55:15.000 And you can go on to PubMed.com or PubMed.gov.

01:55:21.000 The one will redirect to the other.

01:55:23.000 PubMed is the website repository for all of the peer-reviewed academic medical journal studies.

01:55:31.000 Go on there!

01:55:33.000 Don't take my word for it or John Selene's word for it.

01:55:35.000 Go on there and look up Coriolis Mushroom at PubMed.com and you will see dozens of peer-reviewed scientific medical journal articles on this.

01:55:45.000 You can look up Coriolis, C-O-R-I-O-L-U-S-P-S-K.

01:55:50.000 at PubMed.com, and you will see published in journals of oncology, published in journals of biochemistry, you'll see it place after place that this is actually being shown to have a direct and immediate impact on the immune system.

01:56:03.000 Powerful stuff.

01:56:04.000 The Japanese have figured it out. 1.00

01:56:05.000 Hopefully at some point here in the U.S., we'll get around this $3,000 new elastishot that is so painful for women and other cancer patients and actually make the transition to PSK.

01:56:16.000 But you don't have to wait for that.

01:56:18.000 You can do it directly.

01:56:19.000 You can do it yourself.

01:56:20.000 And this is why I say reach out for these alternatives when they're available to you.

01:56:24.000 Let's see, in response to the call asking about the phone number, John, I actually went on your website and let me give the toll-free number.

01:56:31.000 It's 888-283-6583.

01:56:37.000 That's Mushroom Science.

01:56:38.000 I know that you don't have a massive staff over there and you're not staffed with 50 people answering the phone, so I would encourage people to... Yeah, I would encourage people to wait until Tuesday afternoon to call when I'm there because I can answer the questions.

01:56:50.000 Well, that's to answer questions, but if they want to place an order, today would probably be the better time to do it while you still have stock, because I know that whenever we talk about this, right, you run out and then it takes a couple of weeks.

01:57:01.000 So, if people do want to just call and place an order.

01:57:03.000 The other thing you can do, please remember the coupon code, Catherine.

01:57:07.000 And when you go to MushroomScience.com, and let me clarify again, you don't want to get the Coriolis elsewhere because it's not hot water extracted.

01:57:16.000 It's not PSK.

01:57:17.000 So when you go to MushroomScience.com, if you scroll down to the left, you'll actually see my picture there, Catherine Albrecht.

01:57:23.000 And if you click it, it says, Welcome Coast to Coast listeners.

01:57:25.000 We need to update that.

01:57:26.000 Welcome Alex Jones listeners.

01:57:28.000 But if you click that, it will take you to the Coriolis Super Strength PSK Formula page.

01:57:34.000 And you can just enter in the coupon code, Catherine, K-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E, right there.

01:57:40.000 Alright, so let's see if we can squeeze in another phone call.

01:57:43.000 We've got, let's see, Ken listening in Indiana.

01:57:46.000 Ken, really quickly in our last minute here.

01:57:48.000 Go ahead.

01:57:50.000 Cathy, you're such a blessing.

01:57:52.000 I just want to tell you that I just make it quick here.

01:57:55.000 I've always believed that the key to good health is stimulating your immune system.

01:57:58.000 I used to put herbs in the children's applesauce when they were younger and we had very healthy young children.

01:58:05.000 I guess what I want real quick is I'm a 58 year old male.

01:58:09.000 I'm interested in maintaining good health in my elderly years.

01:58:14.000 Could you recommend, is there things just for men or is it generally that you recommend?

01:58:20.000 I know in John's book that he covers a lot of that, and I'm going to be blogging about that on my website at KMAShow.com.

01:58:29.000 In fact, I'm writing a book on this.

01:58:31.000 John Selene, yeah, I want to thank you so much.

01:58:33.000 We've come to the end of the program.

01:58:35.000 MushroomScience.com is the website to learn more.

01:58:35.000 Thank you so much.

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02:00:59.000 Alright, well, I am your host, Katherine Albrecht.

02:01:01.000 As you know, I cover a bunch of stuff.

02:01:03.000 My last 12-13 years of my life has been devoted to fighting against implantable microchips, RFID incursion, and other forms of privacy incursion.

02:01:15.000 And I'm kind of on a new kick right now because I'm so frustrated with all the misinformation floating out there about cancer.

02:01:22.000 And if one in three of us is going to be diagnosed with a scourge of a disease, you know, that's more people than got the Black Plague back in Europe during the plague years.

02:01:30.000 I mean, this thing is, it's coming.

02:01:33.000 And it's here, and every time I turn around, you know, women in their thirties being stricken with this awful disease.

02:01:40.000 We really need to be thinking prevention, we really need to be thinking treatment, and we really need to be figuring out how to intelligently navigate the options that we have available.

02:01:50.000 And I would encourage you not to fall prey to the people who say, oh yes, just take my, you know, miracle holy water that I've waved some ions over and it'll cure you of cancer.

02:02:01.000 Don't go in there To the conventional folks.

02:02:04.000 If you get cancer, if you're diagnosed with cancer, at the very least do yourself one favor.

02:02:10.000 Get a professional oncologist opinion.

02:02:13.000 There is research out there, you can find this again at PubMed, that shows that the people who travel more than 50 miles for their cancer treatment Actually have a higher survival rate.

02:02:23.000 And that's not because travel somehow makes you healthier.

02:02:26.000 It's because traveling means that you've avoided your local podunk hospital and you've traveled to a world-class cancer center.

02:02:34.000 That's what I've done.

02:02:35.000 I've got a lovely little hospital right here in Nashua that I could have gone to.

02:02:38.000 In fact, that's where I was first diagnosed.

02:02:40.000 But I take the hour and a half drive into Boston to go to Dana-Farber, which is a world-class cancer center.

02:02:47.000 If I hadn't have done that, I would have gotten different treatment.

02:02:50.000 So, at least, at the very least, get an opinion from an oncologist.

02:02:54.000 Sit down and figure out what your options are before you absolutely throw the baby out with the bathwater.

02:02:59.000 People are living longer than ever with the cancer treatments available conventionally.

02:03:04.000 It doesn't mean it's really good for you.

02:03:06.000 You've got to really go in tough to knock out the cancer.

02:03:09.000 You nurture yourself with the complementary stuff, and that's how you bring your health back, and that's also what you can do to survive the treatments.

02:03:16.000 Like the Coriolis mushroom we were talking about.

02:03:18.000 All right, really quickly, let's go to Mark who's been holding in Florida with a question on cancer.

02:03:23.000 Go ahead, Mark.

02:03:25.000 Are you there?

02:03:26.000 Yep, I'm right here.

02:03:27.000 Go right ahead.

02:03:28.000 You're live.

02:03:28.000 Yeah, I want to ask you, I sent you an email and it had a link to Dr. Brzezinski.

02:03:35.000 There's a video.

02:03:40.000 I've watched his video.

02:03:41.000 I've watched the Lorraine Day video.

02:03:43.000 I own the Gerson books.

02:03:44.000 I've got the whole nine yards.

02:03:46.000 Yes, so I'm very familiar.

02:03:48.000 Your question?

02:03:49.000 Awesome.

02:03:50.000 Awesome.

02:03:50.000 No, I just wanted to talk about, you know, how the FDA tried to ruin this guy and, you know, all the injuries that they brought.

02:03:57.000 Let me speak to that real quick, Mark, because this is one of the things, man, I was going off on this yesterday with my husband.

02:04:04.000 I'm like, I'm writing a book.

02:04:05.000 I'm writing a book.

02:04:06.000 Because the fact that the FDA goes after somebody is not necessarily a badge of honor.

02:04:12.000 Oftentimes, and I'm going to put Brzezinski to the side, we could have a whole separate conversation because I think his treatment is one of the ones that as far as I can tell is kind of on the edge.

02:04:21.000 Like I can't totally discredit it.

02:04:23.000 I'm also not blown away with its effectiveness.

02:04:25.000 But there are true charlatans out there.

02:04:28.000 I mean real people like, there's a thing called, what is it, MMS, which is an actual heavily toxic compound that would kill you if you were to take it.

02:04:36.000 And you got those people out there promoting that kind of stuff.

02:04:39.000 So, I don't know, when the FDA goes after somebody, it may really be because they deserve being gone after.

02:04:44.000 You know, I'm not a huge fan of the FDA going after people, but sometimes it's warranted.

02:04:49.000 So just because somebody got, you know, shut down by the FDA doesn't mean they had a cancer cure.

02:04:54.000 All right, stay tuned.

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02:08:55.000 I am delighted to be joined this hour by one of the most insightful commentators in America today.

02:09:01.000 I'm referring to Tom Woods.

02:09:04.000 He's the New York Times bestselling author of 11 books.

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02:09:18.000 One of the brightest, most thoughtful people out there today.

02:09:22.000 And I welcome Tom Woods to the program.

02:09:24.000 Hello, Tom.

02:09:25.000 Hi, Catherine.

02:09:26.000 Thank you very much.

02:09:28.000 Hey, I'm so glad you could join us.

02:09:29.000 I know that you have been extremely busy.

02:09:33.000 You were on a stage doing the keynote address at the New Hampshire Liberty Forum right here in Nashua just about a week ago, and it was just awesome to have an opportunity to hear you speak.

02:09:44.000 I now have signed copies of all your books, and I have been getting quite an education, I gotta tell you.

02:09:49.000 I thought I knew A lot about American history and the economy and the meltdown and all of this but after reading your books I'm learning a whole lot more so you've been busy.

02:10:01.000 Let's jump in.

02:10:02.000 I want to talk first of all about some of the things going on in the news these days and especially about an issue that I know you've talked about on Alex's show in the past and that's nullification.

02:10:14.000 I actually opened today's show talking about some of the local But local and state-level laws to bring freedom back, and it really seems to me that it's on that state level and on that local level that we're beginning to see the political change rather than the top-down change model out of Washington.

02:10:33.000 What are your thoughts on that?

02:10:35.000 Yeah, I think a lot of people, naturally, they want to win the whole thing right away.

02:10:39.000 So they think, well I better support so-and-so for Congress or so-and-so for U.S.

02:10:44.000 Senate.

02:10:45.000 But that really, I think, hasn't gotten us anywhere.

02:10:47.000 If you just look over the past hundred years, You know, I sometimes joke that one of the world's shortest books should be Great Conservative Victories.

02:10:56.000 What are they?

02:10:58.000 The victories have been entirely on the side of the advance of the federal government.

02:11:02.000 So I think it's very encouraging to see that people have decided that maybe we ought to try something else.

02:11:07.000 Try at the local level to see what we can do to push back.

02:11:11.000 And so people have even begun using this word nullification that goes all the way back to the days of Thomas Jefferson.

02:11:18.000 And involves the idea that the states have to be the guardians of the Constitution in the last resort.

02:11:24.000 And when you use the word nullification against the political and media establishments, I mean, it is like you are flashing a crucifix in front of Dracula.

02:11:36.000 So, to me, that makes it an end in itself.

02:11:38.000 I mean, I love scaring these people, making them think that they are, in fact, losing their grip over the minds of the public, that we are having unapproved thoughts, we're pursuing strategies we're not supposed to pursue, and I'm glad to see that it's gaining traction, even though, with the exception of this program and a few isolated hosts here and there, You will not hear nullification mentioned on any of the so-called patriotic right-wing radio stations.

02:12:07.000 You won't hear Mark Levin talk about it, Sean Hannity won't talk about it, Rush Limbaugh won't talk about it.

02:12:14.000 As usual, when something might actually help, not a word from any of the usual suspects.

02:12:19.000 Well, and because nullification really is their worst nightmare, it's us taking power back away from them.

02:12:26.000 It seems like our whole political structure has been based, at least during my lifetime, on the federal government mandating these universal dictates.

02:12:37.000 I'll give you one example right here in New Hampshire where you were recently visiting.

02:12:40.000 I don't know if you availed yourself of the opportunity not to wear your seatbelt in the state of New Hampshire, but we are the only one out of 50 states that has said no to the federal highway transportation funding and said, heck, we don't want your national law that says we all have to wear seatbelts.

02:12:58.000 By the way, we have one of the highest rates in the nation of people actually wearing their seatbelt, but we're not doing it at the point of a government gun.

02:13:05.000 We're not required by law to do it.

02:13:07.000 We do it because it's common sense.

02:13:09.000 So, you know, you look at things like that where you've got one state that stands up and says, heck no, we don't want to do it.

02:13:14.000 And believe me, we have gotten so much grief for just that one decision here in New Hampshire.

02:13:19.000 It comes up every single time we have an election cycle, every single time funding gets discussed.

02:13:23.000 They want to put the screws to us and say, well, we won't give you your own money back, your own money that we took from the state in taxes.

02:13:30.000 We won't give you your money back for highway funding.

02:13:33.000 So that's just one example of a state being able to stand up and say, heck no, to something.

02:13:39.000 It seems like the big place we're seeing this now, though, is Obamacare.

02:13:42.000 Where's that going?

02:13:44.000 Well, just quickly on the seatbelt thing, I realize this is beside the real point is that the states have the power to deal with these issues on their own, but it's interesting to note that Sam Peltzman, who is a University of Chicago researcher, actually found that when you have a seatbelt law, there's actually no difference in traffic fatalities.

02:14:03.000 It actually does not have any effect whatsoever because It's true that there are fewer people in the car who wind up injured, but there wind up being more pedestrians who are injured, because marginally, people drive more recklessly when they're wearing the seatbelt.

02:14:16.000 So on balance, the number of people who perish is the same, regardless of the seatbelt thing.

02:14:21.000 So they're not even right, even when they try to be bossy, they're still wrong!

02:14:27.000 But in terms of Obamacare, that's getting a lot of attention, to be sure.

02:14:30.000 And in fact, here's a very interesting item.

02:14:33.000 In South Carolina, which in some ways is the cradle of nullification, but really Virginia and Kentucky are, but later this month, March 19th and 20th, there are some hearings going on, where people are going to be testifying first before the whole General Assembly of South Carolina, and then secondly before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the constitutionality of state nullification.

02:14:55.000 And one of the people testifying on behalf of its constitutionality is a name I hope will be familiar to listeners of this program, and that's Walter Williams, who's a fantastic columnist.

02:15:05.000 He's a fill-in host for Rush Limbaugh, but he's like the anti-Limbaugh, and he's outstanding on issues like this.

02:15:13.000 And, I mean, if you know anything about Walter Williams, that is going to be one YouTube we are going to cherish for a good long time.

02:15:19.000 So yeah, so people are embracing this like crazy.

02:15:22.000 At the same time, the official libertarian and conservative organizations out of Washington, D.C.

02:15:28.000 won't touch it with a ten-foot pole.

02:15:30.000 They're going around trying to tell state officials to ignore nullification, to try to defeat it.

02:15:36.000 So, as usual, it's us against the whole establishment, but you know how David and Goliath turns out, so I'm willing to go with that.

02:15:44.000 Well, for people who may not understand the concept of nullification, give us the rundown.

02:15:49.000 Well, the gist of it is that, and this was Jefferson's idea by and large, that if you let the federal government police itself on the Constitution, it's not going to do a good job.

02:15:59.000 It has absolutely no interest whatsoever in limiting its own power.

02:16:03.000 And so if it is allowed to interpret the Constitution monopolistically, no one else can interpret it.

02:16:09.000 Then, well, what should we expect?

02:16:11.000 We should expect that it will continue to discover more and more powers for itself.

02:16:15.000 So, it's not enough to say we've got three branches of the federal government and they check each other, but what if they all unite to gang up on the rest of us, which is exactly what's happened?

02:16:25.000 Well, then we need another layer of protection, and that's what nullification is, where the states step in and say, look, we created this thing, We were here before there was a federal union.

02:16:35.000 It's the states that created the federal union, so we obviously, as James Madison said in the last resort, the states, the parties to the Constitution, have to have some defense mechanism so that the thing they created, the federal government, doesn't devour them.

02:16:50.000 And that's what nullification is, the assertion of power by the state government to prevent the enforcement in their state of an unconstitutional federal law.

02:17:00.000 So, now, Obamacare again is the one that comes to mind, because I know that's the one that a lot of states have been really working to fight back against.

02:17:07.000 What are some other issues that have hit this nullification hot button for the states?

02:17:12.000 Well, if anything, I would say that there's been maybe even more enthusiasm Regarding applying nullification to the various initiatives we've seen regarding gun ownership and restrictions on gun ownership.

02:17:24.000 This has gotten the attention of a great many people who otherwise would never have heard of this idea and now of course we're hearing about many sheriffs who are prepared to resist and not to enforce some of these new restrictions on gun ownership.

02:17:37.000 This is all very encouraging and interesting.

02:17:40.000 And, you know, indeed, even though a lot of the folks in the Tea Party have been asleep at the wheel on many issues and they're much, much too easily caught up with the latest Republican phony, I have to give them credit for being willing to listen on nullification when their own heroes on TV and radio won't touch it with a ten-foot pole.

02:17:59.000 But the Second Amendment has now been a huge hot-button issue in terms of nullifying.

02:18:05.000 Well, let's talk about that.

02:18:06.000 So what might the federal government do, and how might the states respond to that?

02:18:11.000 Well, they could impose various restrictions on magazine capacity, they could impose various restrictions on the types of firearms people can own, they could impose additional registration requirements, and so on down the line.

02:18:25.000 They could do various measures, take various approaches like that.

02:18:28.000 And we've seen, for example, in Utah, I think it was something like either 28 out of 29 or 29 out of 30 sheriffs signing a letter to the executive branch of the U.S.

02:18:40.000 government saying, well, you can pass these things all you want, but we're not going to carry them into effect.

02:18:46.000 And we saw that also in Arizona, and then there were sheriffs all over the country saying, we're not going to carry these things into effect.

02:18:53.000 I'm sure, or at least I strongly suspect, that Sheriff Richard Mack has been a guest on this program.

02:18:58.000 And Sheriff Mack's view is that no president wants to have a showdown with a sheriff.

02:19:03.000 Presidents have got a certain amount of political capital they could use, and they're not going to expend that capital fighting a sheriff when, by and large, no matter what differences there are on the local level, people like their local sheriff.

02:19:15.000 And if you are giving him a hard time, they're not going to like you.

02:19:17.000 And if the sheriff actually defeats the president, well, this is a horrendous humiliation.

02:19:22.000 So by and large, I think what will happen in some cases is the executive branch will decide it has other fish to fry, it's not worth the aggravation of fighting this, and you might actually eke out some victories this way through decentralization.

02:19:35.000 Yeah, what a great idea.

02:19:36.000 I'm glad to see people on the local level, the state level, really standing up and saying no to some of this stuff.

02:19:43.000 And, you know, if we can't get the laws passed on the federal level, then we can pass them on the local level.

02:19:48.000 I'm thinking about some GMO labeling laws I've been seeing coming down the pike.

02:19:52.000 And if they pass something we don't like, well, the states don't have to enforce it.

02:19:56.000 We'll talk more about that when we come back.

02:19:58.000 Stay tuned.

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02:25:03.000 Just let all that stress roll off you, as my mom would say, like water off a duck.

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02:25:13.000 Rub your aching feet, because we're going to focus on a little bit of good news here.

02:25:17.000 Tom Woods is my guest this hour, and I really believe that this nullification issue, this states rights And just local action is one of the most encouraging things I've seen in my almost 15 years as an activist.

02:25:31.000 Tom, can you give us some reason for optimism right now?

02:25:35.000 It feels like everywhere we turn there's doom and gloom.

02:25:37.000 What is there to feel good about today?

02:25:40.000 Well... Come on, you can do it!

02:25:45.000 Well, I mean, there are some good cases for optimism.

02:25:50.000 I mean, the fact, you know, as we've been talking about the state nullification issue, to me, even more than any victories you might win from it, the fact that so many people are willing to latch onto it when it's not part of the mainstream.

02:26:02.000 Like, people have been intimidated into thinking that if their opinions don't fall between, you know, Rachel Maddow and Joe Scarborough, then, you know, they're some kind of dangerous extremist and they better rethink what they're thinking.

02:26:15.000 Nullification is nowhere to be found in that little restricted spectrum of thoughts that we are allowed to have in this country.

02:26:22.000 And the fact that more and more people are having this thought tells me that we are succeeding in breaking people away from conventional thinking.

02:26:30.000 And they feel better about having a thought that, no, has not been pre-approved for them by the New York Times.

02:26:35.000 Well, good!

02:26:36.000 But the New York Times has wrecked this country!

02:26:38.000 So, of course, if they don't like something, that's almost always an endorsement.

02:26:45.000 I'm with you there, and let me also, I'll add my own two cents on a direction I think that is the right direction outside of the pages of the New York Times, and that is the GMO labeling issue.

02:26:54.000 That California, you know, they couldn't get their lawmakers to do it, so they did a petition and said we'll get this darn thing on the ballot by hook or by crook, and it It just seems like people are beginning to wake up to the fact that it's not the pundits in Washington and the people on Capitol Hill that are going to make life better.

02:27:11.000 If it's going to get better, we've got to roll up our sleeves and do it ourselves.

02:27:15.000 And that's encouraging to me, that people are starting to feel empowered again after decades or even maybe a generation or two of total apathy.

02:27:24.000 Yeah, I agree completely.

02:27:25.000 When I was at the Free State Project's Liberty Forum a couple weeks ago, and if you guys don't know Free State Project, check out freestateproject.org because they are doing some great stuff.

02:27:35.000 The idea, for those who don't know it, is that they want to get as many Liberty people to New Hampshire as they can, so that they can put pressure to make that one state a place that's hospitable, increasingly hospitable to Liberty.

02:27:48.000 Now, I grew up in Massachusetts, which is the exact opposite.

02:27:52.000 And, of course, we spent our time in New Hampshire buying goods without taxes on them.

02:27:56.000 Yeah, you drove over the border here.

02:27:57.000 We live near the border.

02:27:59.000 We throw rocks at you guys down there in Texas.

02:28:02.000 Right, right.

02:28:03.000 I mean, of course, the real immigration problem in America is the border between Massachusetts and New Hampshire. 1.00

02:28:08.000 All these stupid idiots in Massachusetts have screwed up that state, and then they want to move to New Hampshire. 0.99

02:28:13.000 But anyway, so the Free State Project is doing wonderful things, but what I like about it is, when I was at their event, everybody had a table Talking about the things they're doing right now. 1.00

02:28:22.000 They're not sitting there thinking, well, you know, in four years we'll have another election and see what happens.

02:28:26.000 They're taking things into their own hands right now.

02:28:28.000 We're going to try this.

02:28:28.000 We're going to carve out this area of freedom, that area of freedom.

02:28:31.000 We're going to do jury nullification, for example.

02:28:34.000 Or we're going to secede from the Federal Reserve System by using bitcoins and all this stuff.

02:28:39.000 This has just fascinated me.

02:28:41.000 There are so many young entrepreneurial minds who are taking that clever mind that they have And putting it in the service of how can I live free in an unfree world?

02:28:51.000 So that, the strength, the smarts of these young people going on display just at this one conference made me think, you know, even though things look pretty grim right now, maybe in the long term, as the federal government sees the wheels coming off and it can't make good on a lot of its promises, people will be looking for other answers and that's us!

02:29:12.000 Yeah, and thank you for mentioning Bitcoins.

02:29:15.000 That was really awesome.

02:29:17.000 The conversation was happening about that at the Liberty Forum.

02:29:20.000 And we were out there too with the StartPage table, encouraging people to think outside the box in their internet usage as well, to use StartPage.com instead of Google.

02:29:29.000 You know, we do have alternatives, and I think that the market is opening up for more of those alternatives.

02:29:34.000 So, I encourage people, check out StarPage.com as an alternative to Google.

02:29:38.000 Bitcoins as an alternative to cash.

02:29:41.000 Check out Tom Woods' own website at TomWoods.com.

02:29:44.000 More with him when we return right after this.

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02:33:51.000 Hey, we're back.

02:33:52.000 I want to open up the phone lines this segment.

02:33:56.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:33:57.000 We're visiting with best-selling, New York Times best-selling author, Tom Woods.

02:34:01.000 And I say New York Times best-selling author because I think that's meaningful.

02:34:07.000 Tom Woods is not writing your latest thriller novel.

02:34:10.000 He is writing some pretty hardcore commentary that is going directly in the face of what people are being told through the pages of things like the New York Times.

02:34:20.000 It's always exciting to see somebody who's really got it wired and saying it like it is to reach that level of prominence in the New York Times.

02:34:29.000 His books, by the way, if you haven't read them yet, The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History, it's a great read.

02:34:36.000 It's nice short little segments of things that you thought you knew, but you knew wrong.

02:34:40.000 He also wrote the book, you can get this one wherever fine books are sold, called Roll Back, Repealing Big Government, Before the coming fiscal collapse, the book Meltdown, a free market look at why the stock market collapsed.

02:34:53.000 If you want to understand what exactly went wrong and how we're in this financial mess, Tom Wood's book Meltdown is the place to do it.

02:34:59.000 Speaking of nullification this hour, and of course he's got a book called Nullification, How to Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century.

02:35:08.000 And that is a hardcover book.

02:35:10.000 All of this available at TomWoods.com.

02:35:12.000 I want to encourage you to check it out.

02:35:14.000 Phone lines here 1-800-259-9231.

02:35:18.000 If you have a question for our guest Tom Woods, he's an expert on economics and history and just generally how to make things a little bit better around here.

02:35:28.000 So let's see, Tom, before we get to the phone calls here, can you talk to us just briefly about your books?

02:35:34.000 And if people could only get one book, what one would you recommend?

02:35:38.000 Oh, golly, yeah, it's like one potato chip, right?

02:35:41.000 How could you possibly?

02:35:44.000 Well, I don't know, I mean, I do like, I have a sort of fondness for the Politically Incorrect Guide to American History, because that's the one that kind of launched me onto the map.

02:35:54.000 Before then, I was writing scholarly books, which, let's just say, one writes scholarly books for the satisfaction of writing them, not for the book sales.

02:36:02.000 Yeah, you got that right.

02:36:04.000 We both know, right?

02:36:05.000 So, but yeah, the Politically Incorrect Guide to American History, it's a neat little book because it's meant to be sort of modeled after the Complete Idiot's Guide or Such-and-Such for Dummies and that book actually was quite successful and so the publisher decided to do a whole series of books and now they have the Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution and to Global Warming and to all these different subjects that

02:36:30.000 You kind of wish you knew about, but you don't have time to read 20 books, and so we try to distill, like, the best stuff from the 20 books, and the stuff that's politically incorrect or not talked about, we stuff it in there.

02:36:42.000 So, maybe you could start there.

02:36:44.000 Well, give us the one fact that most of our listeners don't know about American history that would probably make our eyebrows shoot up.

02:36:52.000 Oh gosh, but this audience knows everything!

02:36:55.000 If I were to say, now look, Andrew Jackson helped the economy by getting rid of the Second Bank of the United States, people would be yawning.

02:37:01.000 Of course I know that!

02:37:04.000 Or if I say that it was actually perfectly legal for the Southern states to secede from the Union.

02:37:08.000 They'd say, yeah, well sure!

02:37:11.000 But then if I tell you this about You know, today we were talking about nullification and how the states can use it today, but I think it's a completely forgotten story.

02:37:19.000 This is why I was able to write a whole book called Nullification.

02:37:22.000 It's a completely forgotten story how the states, through much of American history, did in fact push back against the federal government.

02:37:29.000 And no, it wasn't just the southern states.

02:37:32.000 And no, it didn't have anything to do with slavery.

02:37:34.000 To the contrary, I show it case after case.

02:37:37.000 You have states and governors and legislatures saying, no, we are not going to do this.

02:37:41.000 Go take a hike.

02:37:43.000 In fact, the second half of that book is just all documents.

02:37:47.000 Old documents, old speeches, old statements by people in states all over the country, so you don't have to take my word for it.

02:37:53.000 This was the America we used to have.

02:37:55.000 Where people didn't just sit back and say, well, I'll wait for the Supreme Court to dictate to me what my rights are.

02:38:01.000 No, to the contrary, this was a country where people said, no, no, no, you can't do this.

02:38:05.000 And one of my favorite examples comes from Connecticut.

02:38:08.000 Like, Connecticut is like the last place on earth we would look to today for leadership on anything.

02:38:14.000 But in 1809, the governor of Connecticut, Jonathan Trumbull, said,

02:38:19.000 That what was being done to Connecticut and New England with the embargo of Jefferson and then later with Madison as well, this embargo and the searches and seizures were unconstitutional and so he was saying that no state official should lend any aid or support to this and he said that it falls back to the state legislatures in dangerous cases of usurped power to stand between the federal government and their people to protect them From the federal government usurping powers.

02:38:49.000 That was Connecticut.

02:38:50.000 That was Connecticut 200 years ago.

02:38:51.000 So, I mean, in other words, even in Connecticut, people used to have guts.

02:38:55.000 These sorts of stories could be multiplied over and over and over.

02:38:59.000 And you know how many of these stories people learn in a typical American history classroom?

02:39:03.000 Of course, a big, fat goose egg.

02:39:05.000 So that's my job, is to dig them up and put them in nullification or put them in the Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.

02:39:05.000 Yeah, none.

02:39:10.000 Because if you don't have the history right, You're not going to understand current events, or you're not going to know, actually, what tools you have, frankly, to stand up for yourself.

02:39:20.000 Well, and nullification, I think, ties in directly with Rand Paul pulling the filibuster.

02:39:26.000 How many times have we seen a filibuster of any kind of magnitude that did something Like what Rand Paul did, bringing an issue not only to the attention of all the other members of Congress as they sat there till midnight listening, but to the attention where the media had to cover something.

02:39:44.000 So there are these tools out there and it's really cool seeing people like Rand Paul dust them off and get up there and use them.

02:39:50.000 And see states like South Carolina.

02:39:52.000 Isn't that awesome?

02:39:53.000 And I would say, on top of the service that it did, from a political point of view, it really was a stroke of genius on his part, because between now and two years from now, he is going to be jockeying for position against all these other people like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz and all the others.

02:40:13.000 And now he just pulled something that I don't see how any of them can duplicate.

02:40:17.000 So even just from his own personal standpoint, It makes sense, but I also think from a philosophical standpoint, whatever I do think he was sincere on this issue.

02:40:29.000 Anyway, it was fantastic that there was actually one guy who made the wheels screech to a halt for just a half a day.

02:40:36.000 That's more than we can say for anybody else.

02:40:39.000 That's right, and he got this issue of drones being able to kill Americans on American soil out of the internal memos and onto the national stage, where even the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times and Time Magazine is going to have to say something about it now.

02:40:55.000 So now you've got Americans aware of the fact that, yeah, these drones in the skies really do want to kill you.

02:41:00.000 And maybe that's not so good.

02:41:02.000 So I think it's great.

02:41:03.000 I think it's part of the same nullification, GMO foods, all the stuff we're talking about, where people are realizing we don't have to take this stuff lying down.

02:41:10.000 It's a good thing.

02:41:11.000 And I'm glad we've got people representing us and writing books about this and speaking about it and in the state halls of power and in places like the New Hampshire Liberty Forum.

02:41:21.000 Alright, let's go to the phone lines.

02:41:23.000 We've got Travis listening in Washington.

02:41:25.000 Travis, you're on with Tom Woodson.

02:41:26.000 Catherine Albrecht, go right ahead.

02:41:28.000 Hi, I was just curious.

02:41:31.000 I got a question about sovereignty.

02:41:33.000 Do you know much about it?

02:41:35.000 I mean, as far as I know, the Constitution was set up to regulate the states by Washington, D.C., which was a federal entity.

02:41:45.000 But when it comes down to the people themselves, you basically have to claim your sovereignty to assert any dignity or power over the federal government or the states.

02:41:58.000 And it goes back to like the Articles of Confederation.

02:42:01.000 Are you talking about individual sovereignty of ourselves?

02:42:04.000 That's right, that's right.

02:42:06.000 I'm talking about sovereignty of yourself.

02:42:09.000 Let's talk about that, Tom, because I know there's been sort of a sovereign citizen movement that's had various degrees of successes and failures over the years.

02:42:17.000 Do we as individuals have rights over this corrupt system?

02:42:20.000 Well, sure.

02:42:21.000 I mean, of course, the whole natural rights tradition, going back hundreds of years, indicates that we are the fundamental building blocks of the society, and anything like states or whatever come later.

02:42:34.000 And these are just subsidiary institutions, but of course we are the primary units.

02:42:38.000 The way the American system works is that the peoples of the states are considered to be the sovereigns, not the state governments, not the federal government.

02:42:47.000 The peoples of the states begin with the sovereign powers, and then they apportion those powers between the states and the federal government.

02:42:54.000 So the federal government is not in charge.

02:42:57.000 The peoples of the states divide their powers between those two entities.

02:43:02.000 And then when they want to recall them, they remain the sovereigns.

02:43:05.000 And any time they want to recall those powers, they can exercise their sovereign powers to do so.

02:43:10.000 Now, the governments don't think we have these powers, which is the roadblock.

02:43:14.000 But I can prove this.

02:43:16.000 I mean, in Chapter 4 of Nullification, that's what that chapter is all about.

02:43:20.000 Alright, Travis, I encourage you to get a copy of the book.

02:43:22.000 TomWoods.com is the website, and he talks about this and more in there.

02:43:26.000 You know, when we start talking about, though, our individual rights, you only have the rights as far as you're actually able to exercise them.

02:43:35.000 And I'm thinking about folks who've said, well, hang on a second, there's not a law requiring us to pay income tax, for example.

02:43:40.000 But just try not paying it, and you'll wind up in jail.

02:43:44.000 So, at what point do the nullification rights of the states, for example, just taking this up to the state level, at what point does the federal government just say, no, I'm sorry, state of South Carolina or state of Connecticut or wherever, we're going to stomp on you if you try to exert that right.

02:43:58.000 Is that happening?

02:44:00.000 That is true, and it's conceivable that it could happen.

02:44:02.000 We can't rule out that possibility.

02:44:04.000 But, it's my view that if you have a great many states working together in concert, it becomes much more difficult for the federal government to figure out exactly how to handle it.

02:44:14.000 I mean, consider all the states that are defying it on various issues involving marijuana.

02:44:19.000 Now, so far, there has not been considerable pushback on that.

02:44:23.000 I mean, we've got two states that just out and out legalized marijuana just now.

02:44:27.000 You know, I mean, this is going on, and they are trying to think of exactly how to deal with it, but they realize that there's... You know, any issue where Congressman Tom Tancredo and a left-wing hippie both agree is an issue where the society has changed.

02:44:42.000 And do we want to, again, expend all our political capital sending tanks into Colorado to throw pot smokers into cages? 0.67

02:44:50.000 I mean, it seems to me they have other things that they want to do.

02:44:53.000 Well, eventually you get the critical mass where they really don't want to turn large numbers of us even further against the federal government than we already are.

02:45:02.000 That's right.

02:45:02.000 The thing is that they want to exert power through persuading us that they are legitimate.

02:45:08.000 They don't want to have to exert power through the expression of brute force, because that has the unhappy consequence of alerting other people that there's something wrong.

02:45:18.000 They just want us to go to their crummy schools and be propagandized into thinking that it's good for us to be kicked around by these people.

02:45:25.000 That's the way they prefer to rule. 0.56

02:45:27.000 Not with the iron fist, but with the fist in a glove.

02:45:31.000 Yeah, and I think that's why their control of the media is so significant as well, and why it's so important that shows like the Alex Jones Show and the work that Alex is doing, the work that you've been doing, and I know that you guest host on other shows as well, you're making the rounds.

02:45:44.000 I think that's why it's so important that we have our voices out there as alternative voices to this mainstream media.

02:45:51.000 All right, let's go to Dennis, listening in Colorado, with a question on nullification.

02:45:55.000 Dennis, you're on with Tom Woods.

02:45:56.000 Go ahead.

02:45:58.000 Hi, Catherine and Tom.

02:46:01.000 Yes.

02:46:02.000 Okay.

02:46:04.000 Yeah, I want to give you information about here in Colorado.

02:46:09.000 I worked in the federal government here in Colorado for 20 years and then I thought, if there's a real movement of people uniting to save the country from the budget problem and having to borrow 40% or more of our money to pay the So, what I did was direct.

02:46:35.000 I resigned before I retired.

02:46:40.000 And so, by resigning, I didn't impact anybody a lot except myself.

02:46:49.000 I took all my money out of my savings and paid off my house.

02:46:54.000 And where I'm going with this nullification, you'll see in a moment.

02:47:00.000 I paid off all my bills and I did so within my means.

02:47:06.000 So I was just trying to set an example and I don't know if there's anyone out there that wants to sacrifice and just give a little and everyone puts in a little.

02:47:21.000 Patriots will bring back the budget if they don't.

02:47:30.000 Well, John, is this more like a personal nullification, like you yourself just saying, I'm not going to participate any longer in the system?

02:47:39.000 Well, I didn't want to participate in waste, fraud, and abuse.

02:47:44.000 And there's all three of those.

02:47:46.000 And the whistleblower provisions don't work.

02:47:51.000 So by voicing my dissent, by leaving and talking about it, basically all i could do now tom i want to ask you something because one of the themes on on my radio show and i do a daily show from four to six p_m_ also on the same network that you see in genesis network i've been talking a lot about the the biblical call to come out of her my people you know this sound and

02:48:17.000 Come out of Babylon lest you be partakers of her sins or receivers of her plagues. 0.99

02:48:22.000 And I know that you're a very devout Catholic and have given a lot of thought to that connection as well between religion and faith and politics and such.

02:48:32.000 What do you think about people like John in Idaho who said, I just can't participate anymore, I'm just going to come out.

02:48:38.000 Does that make the machine stronger or weaker when we make those choices?

02:48:43.000 Well, if people know about it, then it can make it weaker because of, you know, the good example of one person is much more powerful than the example of a thousand drones.

02:48:54.000 And by drones I don't mean, now we have to clarify, people just go with the flow, right?

02:49:00.000 So that's very important.

02:49:01.000 But I think we need to follow that counsel in all areas of life.

02:49:05.000 And so, you know, education is an example.

02:49:07.000 We've got to get our kids to the point where... And this is not easy for every family to do.

02:49:11.000 I don't want to make it sound like if your kids are in the government schools that you're a terrible person.

02:49:16.000 It's hard.

02:49:17.000 It's hard to get your kids out of that system.

02:49:17.000 I understand that.

02:49:20.000 But if it's possible, then That is a very important step forward, too, because it's through the media and through education that they get control of the American mind.

02:49:30.000 And in both of those ways, there is increasingly a kind of an intellectual secession movement that's going on that is the most exciting thing that I've seen in my lifetime.

02:49:41.000 I think that homeschooling is right on the money and I'm actually banking on the future with all these homeschoolers coming up and saying no because they're not indoctrinated in the same way that these government school kids are.

02:49:55.000 I'll keep saying it, the work that I do on privacy, you don't have to have a frequent shopper card, you don't have to shop at the stores that are monitoring your purchases, you don't have to be a part of all of these systems, there are alternatives.

02:50:07.000 That's why we were talking about Coriolis Mushroom or Startpage or all the things that Alex is talking about.

02:50:13.000 There are so many ways that we can say no to the system and just jettison what they're doing.

02:50:21.000 You know, if we all just stopped buying genetically modified foods and said, heck no to Nabisco and Kellogg's and all those big brands, you know, overnight you'd see those guys scrambling to become better.

02:50:31.000 And I think the same is also true with the government system as well.

02:50:35.000 Alright, Tom Woods is my guest.

02:50:36.000 His website is TomWoods.com.

02:50:39.000 Nice easy one to remember.

02:50:40.000 TomWoods.com.

02:50:41.000 I want to let you know that he has a Liberty Classroom.

02:50:45.000 Speaking about education that I would encourage you to check out.

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02:54:01.000 Oh, yeah, that's like the sad music that's like the sad music at the end of the show there.

02:54:24.000 But don't worry, Alex is coming back on Monday.

02:54:26.000 Katherine Albrecht here.

02:54:27.000 I'm coming to an end of my three days of guest hosting for Alex.

02:54:31.000 It has been an absolute joy.

02:54:33.000 I can't even tell you how much fun I've had getting to know the listeners.

02:54:36.000 I've gotten some fabulous emails from you guys.

02:54:38.000 If you want to drop me a line, it's KMA at spychips.com.

02:54:42.000 If you don't have a copy of Spy Chips, please get yourself a copy so you can learn about the stuff I work on, the whole RFID issue, and check out So chipfreeschools.com, if you want to put some support over there to the folks at Texans for Accountable Government.

02:54:57.000 We're fighting back against chips in the schools, tracking kids.

02:55:01.000 So chipfreeschools.com is that website.

02:55:03.000 That's run by Heather Fazio.

02:55:04.000 And, of course, my own website is my name, katherinealbrecht.com or kmashow.com.

02:55:11.000 I encourage you to swing on by and check out my show if you get an opportunity to do that.

02:55:15.000 It's available as a podcast as well, so you can listen to six years of my archive shows.

02:55:20.000 and Alex has me on pretty frequently.

02:55:23.000 We'll see if we can continue to keep up that great relationship.

02:55:27.000 I know Alex is doing such good work and I really am just honored to have been a part of this week of radio.

02:55:33.000 Tom Woods, before we wrap up this hour, let me let you put in a plug for your Liberty Classroom and also for some of your books and let people know how they can get more Tom Woods.

02:55:44.000 Well, you know, we've been talking about ways that you can You can, instead of just waiting for the political people to just hand you freedoms, you can just do things yourself.

02:55:53.000 There actually are ways, very liberating ways, that you can exercise freedom and help spread it to others.

02:55:58.000 And so, I used to be a big complainer.

02:56:00.000 I would complain, well, the university professors are filling the kids' heads with propaganda.

02:56:05.000 Isn't that a shame?

02:56:06.000 But, well, look, with the Internet, I can do something about that now.

02:56:10.000 I just turn the camera on myself, And I can teach anybody who wants to listen, so duh, why am I waiting so long?

02:56:17.000 So I started a website, libertyclassroom.com, where basically I'm teaching US history, not in the way where we're supposed to worship the presidents, and where would we be without President so-and-so, and all this nonsense, but with a much more critical eye on these people.

02:56:32.000 And we've got courses on that, on economics, on European history, and they're all courses you can just listen to in your car while you're driving, and then you can ask us questions about them in our discussion forum.

02:56:41.000 So it's the most exciting thing I've done.

02:56:43.000 It's at libertyclassroom.com, and I put up a coupon code.

02:56:47.000 You can get a discount on it by typing in ALEX in all caps, like you're shouting, ALEX!

02:56:54.000 There we go.

02:56:56.000 Which you made me do.

02:56:57.000 Let's all shout that in unison, yeah.

02:57:01.000 That's what I've been up to.

02:57:03.000 Also, my books, you can find them at TomWoods.com.

02:57:06.000 I think you'll like them.

02:57:07.000 But I'm working on a top-secret project right now that basically involves homeschooling.

02:57:13.000 I'm putting together a K-12 homeschool curriculum for Liberty people.

02:57:18.000 And it's going to be not just you're going to learn great stuff, but also we're going to train these students to spread the message.

02:57:26.000 So they all have to have a YouTube channel.

02:57:28.000 They all got to start a blog.

02:57:30.000 They all have to take public speaking.

02:57:32.000 So they're not just going to have a lot of good knowledge in their heads.

02:57:34.000 They're going to be conveying this to others.

02:57:36.000 When is this coming out?

02:57:37.000 When can we wait for that?

02:57:38.000 You'll start seeing it this fall.

02:57:40.000 You can start to enroll in it this fall in September.

02:57:43.000 All right, this fall.

02:57:44.000 Tom Woods, thank you so much for being with me this hour on the Alex Jones Show.

02:57:48.000 TomWoods.com is Tom's website and also want to remind listeners out there you can get a free e-copy of the InfoWars.com magazine.

02:57:57.000 That's InfoWars.com slash newsletter.

02:57:59.000 You can also get hard copies at cost at the InfoWars store speaking about getting information out To educate people about liberty.

02:58:07.000 It is an extraordinarily well-produced magazine.

02:58:10.000 I know because there is a startpage.com ad for the world's most private search engine right there on the inside cover.

02:58:16.000 So I've read them cover to cover.

02:58:18.000 Good stuff!

02:58:19.000 TomWoods.com, InfoWars.com slash newsletter.

02:58:23.000 My website KMAShow.com.

02:58:26.000 Let me wish you guys a fabulous weekend and say God bless you.

02:58:29.000 Thank you so much for letting me be a part of your week.

02:58:32.000 Alex will be back on Monday.

02:58:33.000 Can't wait.

02:58:34.000 All right.

02:58:34.000 God bless y'all.

02:58:35.000 Thanks for listening.

02:58:36.000 Bye-bye.

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Alex Jones Show - March 08, 2013

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