Alex Jones Show - 20130501_Wed_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:11.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:26.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:28.000 This is Wednesday, May 1st.

00:00:30.000 It's already May, yes?

00:00:32.000 Of 2013.

00:00:32.000 This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in as the guest host today for Alex, who allegedly will be back either tomorrow or the next day.

00:00:41.000 We're not sure yet, but in any case...

00:00:45.000 I also want to give a shout-out to Jakari and David Knight for their excellent job hosting the show over the last couple of days, really breaking it down.

00:00:55.000 Some very good analysis by those guys.

00:00:56.000 In fact, I'm going to quote them later.

00:00:58.000 But let me give you a brief of what's coming up in the show today.

00:01:02.000 We've got three guests for you.

00:01:03.000 We've got Jeffrey John Aufderheide with some news about a vaccine Refusenik tracking app.

00:01:11.000 Yeah, the government wants to track people who are refusing vaccines.

00:01:15.000 So that's coming up later in this hour.

00:01:18.000 Then in the second hour, we've got an interview with Wayne Allen Root, author of the Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.

00:01:27.000 You gotta love the title.

00:01:28.000 How to survive, thrive, and prosper during Obamageddon.

00:01:33.000 I saw that title.

00:01:35.000 I just had to invite this guy on the show.

00:01:37.000 And I've never interviewed him before, but it should be really interesting.

00:01:41.000 He's got a lot of great recommendations, like a one-year income tax holiday for all taxpayers in America.

00:01:48.000 I mean, how can you not love that idea?

00:01:50.000 So we're going to have Wayne Allen Root on in the second hour, and then in the third hour today, we're going to have Dr. Busby, the expert on radiation with some very important updates on Fukushima.

00:02:01.000 There is radiation spiking in the soils.

00:02:04.000 Let's see, we've got some more breaking news on that over here.

00:02:07.000 We'll get to that in the third hour, but a lot's happening with Fukushima.

00:02:11.000 And as usual, you are not being told the truth about Fukushima, about the radiation that's coming to America.

00:02:20.000 Now, in terms of the news, we're going to break down the news between now and the time that all of these guests come on board.

00:02:28.000 And we've got a lot of breaking news here, so I'm just going to run down some of the headlines right now, and then after we come back from the next break, we'll get into the actual details.

00:02:38.000 But we've got millions are on welfare in America who are not citizens of America.

00:02:45.000 That's been a big breaking story over the past couple days, but some new information came out yesterday from Judicial Watch where there are now apparently workers in the welfare system who are speaking out and saying that there were, quote, van loads of

00:03:03.000 benefits handed out to illegal immigrants and that the local office was given a quota said you have to hand out this this much benefit in a quote benefit free money to people otherwise we're gonna yank your budget so they just began basically throwing money at anybody who would walk through the door who could fill out a form and sign it. 0.50

00:03:23.000 They're just throwing money at them because that's of course how the welfare state really works.

00:03:29.000 So we've got that story coming up.

00:03:31.000 We've got 42% of the American people, according to a poll, are unaware that Obamacare is law.

00:03:39.000 Unaware!

00:03:40.000 Yeah, you talk about, I mean, sometimes we joke, we talk about the zombification of the masses in America.

00:03:48.000 And you see those things like when Mark Dice did that piece about people signing the petition to usher in a Nazi-style police state.

00:03:56.000 Well, now 42% of Americans are unaware that Obamacare is law.

00:04:01.000 They have no clue what planet they're on, okay?

00:04:04.000 They don't even know.

00:04:05.000 They don't know, probably, you know, who's their senator, who's their congressperson.

00:04:11.000 They have no clue what is going on.

00:04:13.000 They're not aware of reality.

00:04:14.000 They have no cognitive function.

00:04:17.000 We'll get to that later.

00:04:18.000 Here's some other stories we have coming up here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:04:21.000 Genetically modified wheat could permanently damage human genetics by silencing hundreds of genes throughout the body.

00:04:29.000 This is a whole new level of information warfare.

00:04:32.000 It's genetic information warfare.

00:04:35.000 We'll talk about that.

00:04:36.000 Got a couple of stories that I put up about control versus empowerment and how to tell whether people are really evil or good.

00:04:44.000 We'll go into that.

00:04:45.000 It's a very important philosophical shortcut, you might say.

00:04:49.000 And then we've got ten trends that are driving America into social and spiritual crisis.

00:04:56.000 We're going to cover that here in the next segment.

00:04:58.000 This is Mike Adams on the Alex Jones Show.

00:04:58.000 Stay with us.

00:05:00.000 We'll be right back.

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00:08:10.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:14.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

00:08:21.000 This is Wednesday, May 1st, 2013.

00:08:24.000 And this is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, sitting in, guest hosting for Alex today.

00:08:29.000 Yes, you are in the right place if you're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

00:08:34.000 And I gotta say, I'm in a great mood.

00:08:36.000 I'm in a great mood today because we are winning the info war on so many fronts.

00:08:42.000 It's astonishing.

00:08:43.000 The liberal media, you can't even call them liberal, the leftist lying mainstream media is in total desperation.

00:08:54.000 All the stories that they wanted to cover up and sweep under the rug have been exposed by InfoWars and other alternative news people, you know, Matt Drudge and to some extent my site and others.

00:09:08.000 We're winning on so many fronts that they're just backpedaling now.

00:09:11.000 They just have to deny that they did deny, because their denials have been exposed as total lies, you know, with the DHS bullets that they said didn't exist, and now the whole story about the Boston Marathon bombing is all falling apart.

00:09:26.000 You know, I was talking to the crew before the show, I was like, I want to make sure, let's fact check this, that the alleged Boston Marathon bomber who was found in the boat He was unarmed, right?

00:09:37.000 I mean, he didn't have a gun, right?

00:09:39.000 And they said, right!

00:09:40.000 And they brought up the news piece to confirm that.

00:09:42.000 He didn't have a gun.

00:09:43.000 He was unarmed.

00:09:45.000 And yet, I remember the description of the police encounter was that they, quote, exchanged fire.

00:09:52.000 They exchanged fire.

00:09:53.000 How do you exchange fire with an unarmed person? 0.79

00:09:57.000 And then CJ says, I think the police were exchanging fire with each other, which is Almost certainly the accurate assessment of the situation.

00:10:08.000 They were shooting each other, okay?

00:10:11.000 The police, the cops.

00:10:13.000 The FBI, you name it, whoever's on the scene, they were shooting each other and they were imagining that they were in a gunfight with a terrorist who probably had nothing to do with this other than being told he was performing a drill for the CIA.

00:10:28.000 So the whole story just completely unravels.

00:10:30.000 The whole thing falls apart.

00:10:31.000 Yeah, they're showing the cop that was shot, probably, you know, so-called friendly fire.

00:10:38.000 All the lies are unraveling, is my point.

00:10:40.000 And today on the show, by the way, I should introduce the guest we have coming up, just so you know.

00:10:45.000 But we're going to unravel even more of the liberal media, leftist media lies.

00:10:50.000 Excuse me, I've got to stop using the word liberal.

00:10:52.000 It just doesn't, it doesn't fit anymore.

00:10:55.000 Anyway, here's who we have coming up.

00:10:57.000 We've got at the bottom of this hour, we've got Jeffrey John Alfterheide from Vactruth.com.

00:11:02.000 He's going to be giving us some breaking news just in a short segment about a new vaccine refusers tracking application.

00:11:09.000 Yeah, if you refuse vaccines, you're going to be tracked like a fugitive.

00:11:14.000 Hey, maybe the cops will exchange fire with you too for refusing vaccines, even though you don't have a gun.

00:11:20.000 That's the new thing.

00:11:22.000 You gotta love the word games of the new police state.

00:11:25.000 Okay, so we exchanged fire with an unarmed man, and the town was in a state of, quote, lockdown, and everybody was supposed to, quote, shelter in place.

00:11:36.000 Yeah, it's not martial law.

00:11:39.000 No, don't worry folks, there's no martial law happening here.

00:11:41.000 You're just supposed to shelter in place, which means stay in your home until we drag you out of your home at gunpoint.

00:11:51.000 So, shelter in place until we knock on your door and then come out with your hands up.

00:11:56.000 And as Ron Paul rightly said, he's more concerned about the police state reaction to the bombing than he was about the bombing itself.

00:12:05.000 And that's accurate.

00:12:06.000 Yes, Ron Paul, you are right, yet again.

00:12:09.000 I mean, we should be a lot more worried about police rolling up and down the streets with their armored assault vehicles and pointing their loaded rifles at people in their homes who are taking photos out of second-story windows.

00:12:24.000 We should be a lot more concerned about those people than any so-called bombers or terrorists or people running around with pressure cookers.

00:12:32.000 And oh, by the way, we have another story.

00:12:34.000 We're going to play a video later on about a so-called activist chick who went onto a college campus and got a bunch of college students to sign a petition banning pressure cookers. 1.00

00:12:47.000 Because the pressure cookers are apparently so evil!

00:12:52.000 They're so incredibly evil!

00:12:54.000 You know, cooking utensils!

00:12:56.000 Wasn't there a school teacher who was suspended from his job last week for bringing garden tools to school to show his students how you garden?

00:13:06.000 Yeah, because I guess these garden tools, a little shovel, a little rake, They're their evil terrorist weapons!

00:13:16.000 Unbelievable.

00:13:16.000 Yeah, there it is.

00:13:17.000 A teacher suspended for showing gardening tools to class.

00:13:21.000 Look how evil those gardening tools are. 0.70

00:13:23.000 It's a pair of scissors.

00:13:25.000 It's a... It's a... What is it?

00:13:28.000 Like a pitchfork.

00:13:29.000 A small pitchfork.

00:13:31.000 And now pressure cookers are evil too.

00:13:34.000 And in fact, as I recall, the manufacturer of pressure cookers, one of the manufacturers, actually pulled their pressure cookers off the shelves. 0.94

00:13:43.000 Williams and Sonoma, thank you guys, they pulled it off the shelves temporarily before realizing what morons they were and then reversing their recall and putting the pressure cookers back on the shelves. 0.95

00:13:58.000 You know, here's what's probably sooner or later, somebody is going to commit murder with a blender. 0.94

00:14:04.000 You know, they're going to run up and down the marathon with a blender.

00:14:08.000 You know, like the Vitamix Murderer or whatever.

00:14:12.000 You know, nothing against Vitamix.

00:14:14.000 Actually, Vitamix is a great product.

00:14:15.000 But they're going to be like the Vitamix Rampage.

00:14:19.000 And then there's going to be a call to ban Vitamixes because someone used them in some kind of atrocious, horrific crime.

00:14:26.000 There is no physical object that is safe from the irrational insanity of the radical left.

00:14:32.000 Believe me.

00:14:33.000 You know, you stab someone with a pencil, they want to ban pencils.

00:14:36.000 You hit somebody over the head with a laptop, they want to ban all laptops.

00:14:40.000 You know, it's just, it's incredible.

00:14:41.000 Their incredible infatuation with inanimate objects is just beyond comprehension.

00:14:46.000 I can't even get into it.

00:14:47.000 But getting back to, I promised you some of the guests here that are coming up today.

00:14:51.000 So here's who we've got.

00:14:53.000 In the second hour, I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing.

00:14:55.000 It's all so funny. 0.85

00:14:57.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.63

00:14:58.000 But in the second hour, we've got Wayne Allen Root, the author of the Ultimate Obama Survival Guide. 0.88

00:15:03.000 What a great title.

00:15:05.000 How to survive, thrive, and prosper during Obamageddon.

00:15:09.000 I love it.

00:15:10.000 I love it.

00:15:11.000 A guy who writes a title like that, he gets on the show.

00:15:14.000 Alright?

00:15:15.000 That's all there is to it.

00:15:16.000 You write a title that good, you're on the show.

00:15:19.000 So I saw the book on Amazon and I said we gotta get this guy on the show.

00:15:19.000 Period.

00:15:23.000 Wayne Allen Root will join us in the second hour.

00:15:25.000 And then in the third hour we've got Dr. Busby, the expert on Fukushima and radiation, to give us the latest breaking news on how we're all being irradiated by a problem that the leftist media says doesn't exist.

00:15:39.000 I mean, think about it.

00:15:40.000 Hey, the bullets don't exist.

00:15:42.000 Let's see, the Bill of Rights doesn't exist, and radiation doesn't exist, and Building 7 fell in the perfect demolition-style footprint because it had a couple of office fires, even though in the history of all buildings that are constructed out of concrete and steel, and concrete doesn't Melt at those temperatures, by the way.

00:16:03.000 In the entire history of all such buildings, only one building has ever fallen in its own perfect footprint like demolition, and that was Building 7.

00:16:11.000 So, even invoking the laws of physics, my friends, invoking the laws of physics makes you a conspiracy theorist.

00:16:20.000 Yes, if you understand thermodynamics and architectural engineering, compression strength of concrete, And the torsion resistance of rebar.

00:16:31.000 If you understand these things, you are a conspiracy theorist according to people like Rachel Maddow.

00:16:39.000 Oh my god, don't get me laughing on that person.

00:16:46.000 Oh my god, okay.

00:16:47.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:16:47.000 Let's get on to the news.

00:16:48.000 I'm just too excited today, but here's, let's get on to some of the news.

00:16:53.000 I brought a bunch of news to go over.

00:16:56.000 Let's start with this one.

00:16:56.000 GM wheat.

00:16:58.000 Genetically modified wheat could permanently damage human genetics by silencing hundreds of genes throughout the body.

00:17:05.000 And it turns out that the GM wheat may be able to transmit its defects through multiple generations of humans.

00:17:14.000 So now, by the way, GM wheat is not yet commercialized, so I don't want to raise alarm over wheat.

00:17:20.000 If you go buy wheat right now, it's not GMO, okay, just to be clear.

00:17:24.000 But, they're trying to commercialize GM wheat, they're trying to get the USDA to approve it, and of course the USDA loves Monsanto, and so does Obama, so they're gonna say, yeah, thumbs up, go for more GMOs in the environment, and in the food supply.

00:17:37.000 Pretty soon, if they get their way, we're gonna have GM wheat, and then we're gonna have a bunch of our genes turned off.

00:17:45.000 Like turning off the biological switches that control everything in your body.

00:17:49.000 How wonderful is that?

00:17:51.000 Just another way to deactivate humanity.

00:17:54.000 Anyway, check out that story.

00:17:57.000 I think it's up at InfoWars.com as well.

00:18:00.000 Getting to other news, we've got illegal aliens are collecting food stamps. 0.78

00:18:07.000 Now, I wrote about this earlier in the week.

00:18:10.000 And it's true that the USDA, and by the way, thanks goes to Judicial Watch for this story, judicialwatch.org, and they filed Freedom of Information Act requests, they got these documents that proved the Obama administration, the USDA under Obama, was pushing food stamps to illegals in Mexico!

00:18:32.000 Saying, you can sign up for food stamps and get the free food credit from the US government and we won't check your immigration status.

00:18:41.000 How wonderful is that?

00:18:42.000 And by the way, on food stamps, did you know what you can buy?

00:18:46.000 You can buy diet soda with aspartame, you can buy regular soda, you can buy lobster, you can buy porterhouse steaks, all the steak and lobster you want, you can buy it all on the USDA's food stamp program which is called the SNAP program because apparently somebody there snapped and decided to just start giving away all the Americans' money to illegals who never even paid a dime of tax into the system ever in their whole lives. 0.51

00:19:11.000 So, you can buy all these things, but guess what you can't buy on the Federal Food Stamp Program?

00:19:16.000 You can't buy vitamins.

00:19:18.000 You can't buy nutrition.

00:19:19.000 You can't buy superfoods, because they don't want you to be nourished.

00:19:23.000 They want you to be a victim.

00:19:26.000 I want you to be a dependent on the system.

00:19:28.000 And guess who makes money off the food stamp program?

00:19:30.000 JP, Morgan, Chase, and all the other big banks that actually process all those transactions to the tune of millions of dollars a year in profits for those banks.

00:19:41.000 While Obama gets to recruit a bunch of people that might get amnesty so they can vote more Democrats into office as they're collecting free food stamp money from the government.

00:19:50.000 How wonderful is that?

00:19:51.000 Stay with us.

00:19:51.000 We'll be right back after this break with much more.

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00:24:16.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:24:17.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex today.

00:24:20.000 Thank you for joining us as we continue to break down all the ways that we are winning the info war by just telling the truth.

00:24:27.000 We just tell the truth.

00:24:27.000 It's so simple.

00:24:29.000 Now, on this issue that I was talking about before we went to break, You know, millions, I don't know how many, maybe tens of millions of dollars, probably a lot more if you think about it, are being handed out in food stamps to illegals in America.

00:24:43.000 Now, when I wrote this story, and I posted it on Facebook, just to just get it out there, even knowing that I was going to get completely bashed by these deranged Facebook users, the first thing they said was, you can't call them illegals.

00:25:00.000 You can't call them that.

00:25:03.000 You have to be politically correct.

00:25:04.000 Otherwise, everything you say is discredited if you call them illegals. 0.97

00:25:08.000 You have to call them, quote, undocumented citizens.

00:25:12.000 Undocumented citizens.

00:25:13.000 I said, well, how is that?

00:25:16.000 Because, first of all, They did come into the country illegally, and secondly, they're not citizens of this country. 1.00

00:25:25.000 So I can't, you know, sneak into Mexico and then just run around and get food stamps from the Mexican government, get free healthcare from the Mexican government, and get a free education, and then just say, I'm not illegal, I'm just undocumented.

00:25:39.000 I mean, come on.

00:25:40.000 Every other country in the world would kick you out, or at least not pay you a bunch of benefits.

00:25:46.000 That's the real insanity.

00:25:47.000 Look, I'm not against the entire culture.

00:25:51.000 There's a lot to love about Latino culture and the Mexican people, you know, and I've lived in South America.

00:25:57.000 I'm just against us spending U.S.

00:26:00.000 taxpayer dollars to give them benefits when they're not even citizens.

00:26:05.000 I mean, how simple is it?

00:26:08.000 How crazy is that?

00:26:11.000 So just tell them the truth.

00:26:12.000 You know, it gets you hated, I guess, by everybody today.

00:26:18.000 I completely hated.

00:26:20.000 And now Judicial Watch says illegal aliens got food stamps by the van load.

00:26:24.000 But just to be clear, I'm not against food stamps for American citizens who are in a temporary poverty crisis.

00:26:30.000 I'm not against that.

00:26:31.000 You know, if we can help some families out for a short-term period.

00:26:36.000 I'm all in favor of that.

00:26:37.000 I'd be happy to personally donate food to them.

00:26:39.000 That'd be better, actually, than paying the money of the federal government and having them waste it.

00:26:42.000 I'd rather just give food to people who need it.

00:26:46.000 And I've done that, actually, in the past.

00:26:47.000 I've donated truckloads of food to the American Red Cross in Wyoming, by the way.

00:26:52.000 I mean, I've done things like that.

00:26:54.000 But to give away money to people who aren't even citizens, it's insane.

00:26:57.000 So all of you haters and trolls out there, you're wrong and you know it.

00:27:03.000 And if you keep this system going, they're going to come after your money, and your house, and your job, and they're just going to take everything.

00:27:11.000 And your bank account, they're just going to take it all.

00:27:13.000 So, by the way, switching topics here very quickly.

00:27:17.000 You know, there's been a lot of confusion in the minds of people on the left, a lot of confusion about when exactly is it okay to murder people.

00:27:28.000 And, you know, because they're not covering the abortion trial in Philadelphia, because basically the leftist media says it's okay to kill babies not only before they're born, but even right after they're born. 0.97

00:27:40.000 You know, stab them in the neck with a pair of scissors, or just jab, you know, jab them with sharp objects, maybe garden tools, who knows. 0.94

00:27:48.000 But it's okay, the left says, to kill the babies after they're born, and you can even have post-birth abortions, but, you know, up to three years of age. 1.00

00:27:56.000 So it's okay to kill all those babies, according to the left. 0.99

00:27:59.000 And, but then once they go to grade school and they're in a place like Sandy Hook, then you can't kill them anymore. 0.96

00:28:06.000 And if somebody does kill them, then it's the end of the world and you have to take away all rights and all liberties to protect that child that apparently was perfectly okay to kill six years earlier.

00:28:18.000 If it was just called a choice.

00:28:20.000 All right, so in order to clear up some of the confusion on this, I did some research and I found a graphic called The Collectivist Guide to Appropriate Murder, which is put out by the Democratic Party.

00:28:30.000 And we're going to show that on screen here on PrisonPlanet.tv for those of you watching.

00:28:34.000 I'm just going to run through this very quickly.

00:28:36.000 Here is, when is it appropriate to murder people?

00:28:40.000 According to the left.

00:28:42.000 Alright, so prenatal murder is perfectly acceptable, that's called abortion, that's called a choice. 0.97

00:28:47.000 You can just take them out, done.

00:28:49.000 Post-birth abortion, well that's also still a choice. 1.00

00:28:53.000 And who cares if this abortionist was, you know, severing the spinal columns of little babies that were breathing, you know, right after they're born.

00:29:00.000 Just, you know, slicing away, right there.

00:29:03.000 The media doesn't think that's important to cover because they support it!

00:29:06.000 They love it! 1.00

00:29:07.000 Kill more babies, that's totally okay. 1.00

00:29:10.000 Infanticide, yeah, as it's called. 0.99

00:29:12.000 Now then, once the children become school age and then they're wearing backpacks and they have these cute little tennis shoes and they're going to school, then they enter the cute zone, you can't kill them anymore, according to the left.

00:29:24.000 Not okay. 0.97

00:29:24.000 Not okay to kill them. 0.97

00:29:25.000 But after they turn 18, it's okay to kill them once again if they're in favor of conservatism or firearms ownership. 1.00

00:29:33.000 You can go on the evening news and you can say, shoot these people, and everybody laughs about it like Piers Morgan is totally okay. 1.00

00:29:39.000 And when they're elderly, you can kill them again. 1.00

00:29:42.000 Because you gotta have the death panels, save taxpayer money, run Obamacare! 0.99

00:29:46.000 Yeah, that's when it's okay to kill people according to the collectivist left, I just wanted to clarify that.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:33:01.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

00:33:09.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

00:33:12.000 All right, welcome back, folks.

00:33:18.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:20.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in.

00:33:21.000 I'm the editor of NaturalNews.com, a frequent contributor to Infowars.com.

00:33:26.000 And before we get on to our guest here, let me just say, by the way, that last bit was obviously satire.

00:33:32.000 I hope you know that.

00:33:34.000 I was going to mention that, but then it went to commercial.

00:33:37.000 Obviously satire.

00:33:41.000 The left would never admit that they support murder, even though they do.

00:33:45.000 They openly do.

00:33:47.000 And by the way, I just want to give thanks to the media that's actually covering the abortion murder trial.

00:33:54.000 So I want to give a shout out to cnsnews.com.

00:33:58.000 They've been really having great coverage of it.

00:34:01.000 I want to give a shout out to Breitbart.

00:34:03.000 Obviously, Drudge Report.

00:34:05.000 StoryLeak has been doing some good work, and they've just submitted a new video that I'm in for the Paul Revere contest.

00:34:11.000 I didn't have any part in creating it, but they interviewed me for it.

00:34:15.000 And that was just released last night.

00:34:16.000 I don't even really know the name.

00:34:18.000 Oh, Disarmed.

00:34:19.000 That's the name, Disarmed.

00:34:20.000 So you can check that.

00:34:22.000 It's a pretty hard-hitting video about gun rights.

00:34:27.000 And he interviews Steve Toth, the Texas representative.

00:34:30.000 Who is really an awesome guy who gets it.

00:34:33.000 So, I just want to give a shout out to all of these media sources, alternative media, that are doing such a great job out there.

00:34:42.000 I mean, there's Rumor Mill News, there's Steve Quayle dot com, there's just so many.

00:34:48.000 I'm sorry if I'm leaving some out, but there's so many great websites out there that are doing a good job.

00:34:52.000 So we've got to be thankful for them.

00:34:53.000 And of course, InfoWars.com.

00:34:56.000 Don't take all this for granted.

00:34:57.000 This could easily go away.

00:34:59.000 The government could easily come in and just seize all of these websites.

00:35:04.000 Oh, and by the way, along those lines, I remember a few months ago I talked about developing a peer-to-peer information distribution technology.

00:35:11.000 And I kind of dropped the ball on that.

00:35:13.000 I know some of you out there who are listeners were talking with me about that.

00:35:17.000 Technically, it's a very, very difficult project, but there's possibly a breakthrough in that the BitTorrent company has just released a product called BitTorrent Sync.

00:35:26.000 And I'm checking that out right now to see if we can use a peer-to-peer sync to essentially distribute videos and articles and other content by dropping it into a local folder and having it sync peer-to-peer across all the other computers that have the same share link.

00:35:44.000 So I'm checking that out.

00:35:45.000 That's BitTorrent Sync.

00:35:46.000 If you want to check that out, that could be the answer to what we do in the alternative media if the government tries to take down all of our websites.

00:35:54.000 We do need a peer-to-peer decentralized or non-centralized information sharing technology.

00:36:01.000 And that could be the answer.

00:36:03.000 So anyway, a lot of you out there who are even more geeky than I am can probably figure that out and get us some answers, but we've got to have a technology that could be it.

00:36:12.000 Now, getting on to our first guest, who's joining us just for a few minutes for an update on this.

00:36:17.000 His name is Jeffrey John Alfterheide.

00:36:20.000 He's the main contributor to VacTruth.com.

00:36:26.000 Yeah, VacTruth.com.

00:36:27.000 Vac, short for vaccine, of course.

00:36:29.000 VacTruth.com.

00:36:31.000 And Jeffrey, I hope I pronounced your name correctly.

00:36:34.000 You can correct me.

00:36:35.000 He's a fantastic writer.

00:36:37.000 I've been following much of his work for many years.

00:36:40.000 And he just posted a story in the last day or two about a tracking application, I'm trying to find, here it is, a tracking app that would allow the government to track vaccine refusers.

00:36:54.000 So here to give us the details on that story and why it's relevant to all of us and our health freedom is Jeffrey John Aufderheide.

00:37:01.000 Jeffrey, thank you for joining us.

00:37:03.000 Hey, thanks for having me on, Mike.

00:37:04.000 I really appreciate the opportunity to be on the show.

00:37:06.000 You bet.

00:37:07.000 It's a pleasure to have you on.

00:37:09.000 How do I pronounce your name, by the way?

00:37:10.000 I should know this.

00:37:11.000 You nailed it.

00:37:11.000 So, you're one of the few.

00:37:13.000 Oh, really?

00:37:14.000 I nailed it?

00:37:14.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:15.000 Alright.

00:37:16.000 Well, there's a first for everything.

00:37:18.000 So, go ahead.

00:37:19.000 Tell us about the story.

00:37:21.000 Absolutely, Mike.

00:37:22.000 So, what we have here is an application that's called Vaccine Refused.

00:37:26.000 Now, on the surface, it appears to be, you know, pretty benign.

00:37:30.000 What it does is it actually tracks just pretty much what the name says.

00:37:34.000 The vaccine that is refused by you, if you go into a pediatrician's office or a doctor's office or whoever, they can plug in the type of vaccine that you refused, if it's all of them or one or two, some demographic information, and the data is supposed to be stored anonymously at the University of Iowa.

00:37:55.000 So I started to dig into this.

00:37:56.000 As a matter of fact, I just want to give a shout out to one of my colleagues, Bonnie St.

00:38:01.000 Marie, for sending me this.

00:38:03.000 And I started to dig into this a little bit deeper, and what I found out is that the lead researcher, his name is Dr. Philip Palgreen, and he's the Director of Infectious Disease Society of America's Emerging Infections Network.

00:38:17.000 And so what that basically means is that the CDC has started a program since 1995 to work in cooperation with this society, and what they're doing is they're basically developing this Sentinel Network.

00:38:31.000 Well, I don't think anybody has any problem with them tracking the emergence of disease, but this tracking of people who refuse to get vaccinated, that's very worrisome.

00:38:51.000 That smacks of, you know, police state medicine.

00:38:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:38:55.000 And so, you know, on the surface they say, well, all this data is anonymous.

00:38:59.000 All this data is, you know, it's safe and secure.

00:39:03.000 But, okay, so here's the deal.

00:39:06.000 That might be true to some degree.

00:39:08.000 But now we have to take a look at what else the Centers for Disease Control is in, right?

00:39:13.000 So, they're into something also called the Immunization Information System, and that registers all of your vaccine information into their databases.

00:39:22.000 And they have these programs that are being tied into these state database registry programs Where they can track information such as your patient's first name, your social security number, your address, your sex, your mother's name, you know, if you're a child, the vaccine type, the vaccine manufacturer, the lot number, the vaccine provider.

00:39:45.000 So, what's to say, Mike, that that vaccine provider, being a doctor's office, presses that button and says, this person refused.

00:39:52.000 And it correlates to that type of information.

00:39:55.000 Yeah, they can cross-reference it through a relational database check.

00:39:58.000 It's easy.

00:39:59.000 Absolutely.

00:40:00.000 And I don't buy for one second that this stuff is anonymous.

00:40:03.000 Because, you know, his name is Bruce Schneier, and he writes this great op-ed piece called The Internet is a Surveillance State.

00:40:10.000 And he talks about three different examples.

00:40:13.000 He talks about Chinese military hackers who were implicated in a set of attacks against the government.

00:40:18.000 Well, these hackers accessed their Facebook account from the same infrastructure they carried out their attacks on.

00:40:26.000 Or what about a hacker that was identified that he practiced excellent security practices and he slipped up a little bit and he was caught by the FBI?

00:40:36.000 Or what about Paula Broadwell?

00:40:38.000 She's the one that had the affair with CIA Director David Petraeus.

00:40:44.000 She used anonymous email accounts wherever she went from the hotels, and the only commonality was that she was the only person they could find that logged in from these hotels.

00:40:46.000 email accounts wherever she went from the hotels.

00:40:50.000 And the only commonality was that she logged in from, she was the only person they could find that logged in from these hotels.

00:40:57.000 So they know how to correlate all the data.

00:40:59.000 They know how to do this, and so it's a joke for them to say that everything is anonymous and we're not going to be tracking this.

00:40:59.000 Right.

00:40:59.000 They know how to do this, and so it's a joke for them to say that everything is anonymous and we're not going to be tracking this.

00:40:59.000 Right.

00:41:05.000 So the whole point behind this application is that it has the ability to not only create heat maps but also pinpoint exact locations and again this is of course my opinion based on my experience, but it has the ability to correlate your home address, all but it has the ability to correlate your home address, all that type of information and put it on a nice little So then the question becomes who gets that application, who gets that phone application?

00:41:31.000 Well right, and how is it going to be applied?

00:41:34.000 Because we know already that parents who refuse vaccines for their children often have their children kidnapped by CPS or, you know, taken away by the state, essentially.

00:41:46.000 And that, in addition, we know that the medical police state is rising under Obamacare, it's gaining more power, and that people who refuse vaccines could then be denied health care procedures.

00:41:59.000 Oh yeah, it's just the tip of the iceberg.

00:42:00.000 I mean, let's take, Mike, let's just take a look at, there was a recent study done by Frank DeStefano, the Director of Immunization Safety for the Centers for Disease Control.

00:42:11.000 They took data from Kaiser Permanente and tried to, you know, use, count antigens, right?

00:42:17.000 As far as if vaccines were going to cause autism.

00:42:21.000 Now, you know, how does that kind of relate here?

00:42:23.000 Well, they already have the tie-ins to the health industry.

00:42:27.000 They already know who gets what.

00:42:29.000 When are they going to start using this information?

00:42:32.000 What's going to be the ramifications, as you just said?

00:42:35.000 Well, and you can bet it's going to be some nefarious use.

00:42:35.000 Right.

00:42:38.000 I mean, since when did the government ever collect data on people and use it to do good?

00:42:43.000 I mean, come on!

00:42:46.000 Well, you know, the thing is, like this last year, what happened with the nurses?

00:42:54.000 They got fired for not taking their vaccines, right?

00:42:57.000 So, what's to say that they're not going to give this type of data?

00:43:01.000 You know, the government can put a little bit of pressure on, you know, through some laws or whatever have you.

00:43:08.000 They're very expert at doing this.

00:43:10.000 but then put some pressure on some corporations to say, "Hey, you know what?

00:43:13.000 If you're not going to have your people vaccinated, then you're going to lose these types of benefits." Now, and the problem is that the government actually purchases a large volume of vaccines, so they are heavily financially interested in making sure that we can continue to consume vaccines.

00:43:29.000 Sure.

00:43:30.000 So...

00:43:31.000 But, well, let me interject here, though.

00:43:34.000 My concern is that the very definition of vaccine is being morphed where they're talking about behavioral vaccines where they inject you with Maybe a nanotech or an organ region specific chemical that essentially lobotomizes a section of your brain.

00:43:55.000 They could call it a vaccine against radicalism, for example.

00:43:58.000 You know, their definition of radicalism.

00:44:01.000 They can say, oh, you haven't had your vaccine against radicalism, therefore you might be a radicalized danger to society.

00:44:08.000 You've got to take this vaccine, which is really a lobotomy that takes away your free will, takes away critical thinking and so on.

00:44:12.000 I mean, couldn't it proceed to that point or maybe Perhaps we're already there?

00:44:17.000 Well, I think, you know, I think we have to take a look at this at a broader scope, even in vaccines.

00:44:24.000 Because if they can do this for vaccines, what's to say, oh, we're going to mandate this type of medication for you, and if you don't take it, well, we know who you are, and we know where you live.

00:44:33.000 That's right.

00:44:34.000 And so what we have, you know, this might be a concern for certain demographics because, you know, we're concerned about vaccines, but what we really have to be taking a look at is a broader scope.

00:44:45.000 Is what does this have the ability to do?

00:44:48.000 And it gives the ability of the high priests of pharmacology to put out their agenda.

00:44:57.000 And track who is complying, who is not.

00:45:00.000 That's right.

00:45:01.000 And give them what, you know, I mean, you can take a look at what's happening in schools, you know, if children aren't getting that Ritalin or whatever.

00:45:07.000 I mean, they've had, in the past, some children have been taken away from CPS.

00:45:12.000 Some parents have gotten in a lot of trouble.

00:45:14.000 So I think, you know, George Washington summed it up best as saying, you know, government is not reason, it's not eloquent, it's force.

00:45:20.000 And like fire is dangerous, it's a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

00:45:25.000 I think we have to be very careful of who is influencing our government.

00:45:29.000 We also know that doctors will conspire, well especially pediatricians, they will conspire with CPS to take away your children.

00:45:29.000 Absolutely.

00:45:36.000 I've even said that you should not take your children to a conventional pediatrician ever.

00:45:41.000 Because you should go to a naturopath instead.

00:45:44.000 Because a conventional pediatrician, if you don't follow their mandates of what they want you to do to your child, they can just call the sheriff or call the police department and literally have your children kidnapped right there at gunpoint.

00:45:57.000 This happens over and over again.

00:45:57.000 And they do!

00:45:59.000 Of course.

00:46:00.000 I think the big thing to keep in mind there is all parents are at different stages of their awakening, if you will, Mike.

00:46:10.000 And I think that's why we are so passionate about what we do is because we're trying to reach those people that maybe not are already awake.

00:46:18.000 I mean, those are the people that are joining our ranks and that are helping out.

00:46:20.000 It's those parents that are, you know, maybe it's their first child.

00:46:25.000 And the thing is that they're feared into doing this.

00:46:28.000 They're feared into going to a pediatrician.

00:46:30.000 They're feared into vaccinating because, you know, a lot of parents that I talk to, their gut instinct is like, well, you know, I never really felt like these vaccines were the right thing to do.

00:46:39.000 And then I did more research, but then it was too late, and then my child was injured.

00:46:43.000 And you find a lot of parents with their first child being injured, such as myself.

00:46:47.000 I have about five or six autistic children just in my block alone.

00:46:53.000 It's pretty crazy.

00:46:54.000 No, but you're right.

00:46:55.000 Young parents especially, they are naive. 0.99

00:46:58.000 They don't understand.

00:46:59.000 They think, well, the system would never do something that would put my child's health at risk.

00:47:03.000 No, right, right.

00:47:04.000 But that's wrong.

00:47:05.000 The system always puts your child at risk by injecting your child with, I mean, let's face it, you know, mercury, thimerosal, formaldehyde, MSG, and aluminum.

00:47:16.000 These are all things that are admitted to be put into various vaccines.

00:47:19.000 It's admitted by the CDC.

00:47:20.000 This is not a conspiracy theory.

00:47:22.000 This is listed by the CDC on their own website that that's in vaccines.

00:47:25.000 Yeah, and not to mention viruses cultured off of monkey kidneys, calf blood, sheep skin, monkey testicles, mouse brain.

00:47:36.000 You know, I mean, you can't really make this stuff up. 0.59

00:47:37.000 What do you have against monkey testicles? 0.99

00:47:39.000 Come on, man. 1.00

00:47:40.000 I mean, everybody should want to shoot those up. 0.93

00:47:42.000 That was causing cancer in a lot of people back in the 1950s and 60s. 0.59

00:47:46.000 That was in the polio vaccine.

00:47:49.000 I can't believe that you're against animal parts being injected.

00:47:55.000 Tell us about your website, by the way, vactruth.com.

00:47:58.000 Most of our listeners have heard of your website, but just give us a quick overview of what people can find there.

00:48:02.000 Yeah, sure.

00:48:03.000 Vactruth.com was started by myself in 2009.

00:48:07.000 My oldest son was injured by vaccines after 21 vaccine doses.

00:48:11.000 He stopped reaching his developmental milestones.

00:48:14.000 And, you know, Mike, we went to what I consider the medical marrow ground.

00:48:19.000 We went to psychologists, neurologists, speech therapists, occupational therapists, you name it, and y'all came back with the same answer.

00:48:29.000 Is that your child appears to be normal from what we can tell.

00:48:34.000 However, we don't know what's wrong with him, you know, and you're just going to have to live with this the rest of your life.

00:48:40.000 And so that started my journey.

00:48:41.000 And, you know, lo and behold, you know, we looked into vaccines and looked into autism and we found our answers.

00:48:48.000 And so what that truth is, is an attempt to reach parents and to kind of tell them the other side of the story, that there's more out to the story than just what your pediatrician tells you and you should research vaccines, you should research what's in vaccines and research what type of reactions can happen to your little baby.

00:49:09.000 You can look at for example the MMR vaccine insert and that has over 65 adverse reactions in it.

00:49:17.000 And then our main goal is to empower parents, because then the bullying doesn't work.

00:49:25.000 The triggers that doctors use don't work.

00:49:28.000 The psychological methods and manipulation that the media learned from Edward Bernays do not work on parents because then they can see past all the garbage.

00:49:39.000 Well, being informed is the ultimate defense.

00:49:41.000 Doctors use the same techniques on cancer patients.

00:49:45.000 I had a recent situation of someone, sort of a distant relative in the family, who the hospital said he had a really high PSA number, which is a completely bogus test they still use for prostate cancer.

00:49:59.000 They didn't even do any biopsy, no MRIs, nothing.

00:50:02.000 They just looked at this number and they started dosing him up with chemotherapy.

00:50:06.000 They almost killed the man.

00:50:07.000 I mean, they almost killed him.

00:50:08.000 Everything was shutting down.

00:50:09.000 Kidneys, colon, liver, it was all shutting down.

00:50:12.000 We rescued him out of the hospital, saved his life.

00:50:14.000 He's back to normal, walking, healthy again.

00:50:17.000 You know, his biological functions are working again.

00:50:20.000 But the hospital was trying to kill him, and they used the same tactics.

00:50:24.000 They intimidated people.

00:50:26.000 I took some doing, believe me.

00:50:28.000 Believe me.

00:50:28.000 I mean, the hospitals today, they are murder centers.

00:50:32.000 They are literally trying to kill you, but we're out of time, Jeffrey.

00:50:36.000 I want to thank you for coming on the show today.

00:50:37.000 It's great talking with you.

00:50:39.000 Hey, fantastic being on the show.

00:50:40.000 Appreciate the opportunity, Mike, and always a pleasure.

00:50:43.000 Appreciate your passion and desire.

00:50:45.000 Thank you, Jeffrey Aufderheide.

00:50:46.000 He is the founder of vactruth.com, everybody.

00:50:49.000 Check out the website, read his articles.

00:50:51.000 The guy knows what he's talking about and he's helping a lot of people.

00:50:54.000 Stay with us.

00:50:55.000 We'll be right back on The Alex Jones Show.

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00:54:14.000 The Boston Manhunt missed the boat as police skip the street where the alleged bomber was hiding out in the boat, unarmed.

00:54:24.000 Yeah, the police, so they locked down the whole city.

00:54:27.000 Well, not the whole city, but this whole section of the city.

00:54:31.000 About 400,000 people or so.

00:54:33.000 Locked down.

00:54:34.000 What does that mean?

00:54:34.000 Shelter in place.

00:54:35.000 Like pull out your tent?

00:54:36.000 Set up a tent in your living room?

00:54:38.000 I'm sheltering in place.

00:54:40.000 Yes, I'm doing as I'm obedient.

00:54:43.000 I'm doing as I'm told.

00:54:45.000 But anyway, Boston Manhunt missed the boat.

00:54:47.000 The police skipped the street that this guy was on.

00:54:51.000 Alright, so they're rolling up and down all the other streets.

00:54:56.000 And terrorizing, terrorizing all the citizens who are trying to be as compliant as possible because they're completely spineless.

00:55:07.000 Not one person said, no, you can't come in my house.

00:55:10.000 You don't have a warrant. 0.99

00:55:11.000 Get out of here, you criminals. 0.95

00:55:12.000 Not one person said that. 0.99

00:55:15.000 Wait till they try that in Texas.

00:55:17.000 They're gonna get met with a lot of constitutional lawyers who challenge him.

00:55:24.000 But no, they missed the boat, but they're pulling everybody out of their homes, people who are completely innocent.

00:55:30.000 They have no warrants, they have no reasonable, probable cause whatsoever to pull anybody out of their homes.

00:55:36.000 So the police are terrorizing Boston and they're skipping the street where the so-called terrorist is actually located. 0.92

00:55:46.000 How pathetic does it get?

00:55:49.000 And we're showing a video for those of you watching online. 0.94

00:55:52.000 Well, we're just showing you some video of how they're pulling people out of their homes at gunpoint.

00:55:58.000 Put your hands up!

00:55:59.000 Put your hands up!

00:56:00.000 Yeah, you're living in Boston now.

00:56:02.000 This is a police state. 1.00

00:56:04.000 You're a criminal. 0.99

00:56:04.000 Show me your papers. 0.99

00:56:06.000 No!

00:56:06.000 Keep your hands up.

00:56:07.000 Don't show me your papers.

00:56:08.000 Don't reach in your pocket.

00:56:09.000 Put your hands back up.

00:56:10.000 Show me your papers!

00:56:11.000 And there's a photo of this guy in an armored vehicle pointing his rifle at a citizen with a camera.

00:56:18.000 Because, you know, cameras are evil.

00:56:21.000 So anyway, they skip the street.

00:56:24.000 Did they skip it on purpose?

00:56:26.000 I don't know.

00:56:27.000 Maybe not.

00:56:28.000 They skip the street, and then when they finally come back and find the guy, they have a, quote, shootout with an unarmed man.

00:56:35.000 They say they exchanged gunfire with a guy who didn't even have a gun.

00:56:39.000 I just...

00:56:43.000 It's beyond comedy at this point. 0.99

00:56:46.000 The theater is so pathetic. 0.99

00:56:50.000 It's all theater. 1.00

00:56:51.000 That's all it is.

00:56:52.000 The government has ceased to become a body that governs, and it has become a body that actually has sort of like Shakespeare in the park.

00:57:03.000 Shakespeare at the Marathon.

00:57:04.000 But it's not Shakespeare, it's some other tragedy.

00:57:06.000 And it's all theater!

00:57:07.000 It's got the fake Hollywood blood, it's got the professional actors that they use that they openly admitted to play the roles of victims, and then it's got the police role-playing as if they're police, who are actually following some kind of law, but really they're just rolling up and down.

00:57:24.000 What they're really doing is acting like they're, you know, the Stasi or secret police from the old Soviet Union or something.

00:57:32.000 It's all role-playing, folks.

00:57:34.000 It's all role-playing, including the victims, including the people in the homes, the people in Boston who were sheltering in place, who were huddling in their homes, so afraid.

00:57:42.000 We don't have any guns to defend ourselves because we are in favor of gun control.

00:57:48.000 So we need the police to protect us.

00:57:51.000 Oh, look!

00:57:52.000 The police are coming to protect us!

00:57:54.000 Knock, knock, knock!

00:57:55.000 Come out with your hands up!

00:57:58.000 They're not protecting us!

00:57:59.000 They're arresting us!

00:58:00.000 What went wrong? 1.00

00:58:02.000 Well, what went wrong, you pathetic morons, is that you gave up your liberties. 1.00

00:58:07.000 You disarmed yourself. 1.00

00:58:08.000 You handed power over to the corrupt criminal police state that is now using that power against you. 1.00

00:58:15.000 You are the morons! 1.00

00:58:17.000 You are pathetic! 1.00

00:58:19.000 Stop giving up your rights. 1.00

00:58:21.000 Stop giving up your freedoms.

00:58:23.000 Okay?

00:58:24.000 Do something for yourself.

00:58:25.000 Stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

00:58:28.000 Don't let the police state roll over you and your freedoms, alright?

00:58:31.000 We've had enough of that.

00:58:33.000 Be a human being, for God's sake!

00:58:33.000 Stand up.

00:58:35.000 We'll be right back on the Alice Jones Show.

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00:59:56.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

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01:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:26.000 All right, we are already into the second hour.

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01:00:36.000 I was just ranting about how pathetic people are in that Boston area where there's just shelter in their homes and nobody even says, did the police have the right to come in and just yank us all out of our homes without warrants?

01:00:50.000 Just because there's a teenager on the loose? 0.92

01:00:53.000 Really?

01:00:54.000 If it was a police state lockdown, every time a teenager was on the loose, we would all be living in little tents in our living rooms.

01:01:05.000 We would all be sheltering in place permanently.

01:01:07.000 Because there's always a teenager on the loose, right?

01:01:09.000 That's part of being a teenager.

01:01:13.000 An unarmed one at that. 0.69

01:01:16.000 Hiding in a boat.

01:01:17.000 How terrible.

01:01:20.000 So, let's talk about banning pressure cookers.

01:01:25.000 Because everything that's related to a crime is instantly demonized by the mainstream media.

01:01:31.000 I mean, I guess if a bald guy shot some kid in a grade school, then they would ban hair.

01:01:40.000 Because a bald guy did it.

01:01:45.000 No, no, they would have to mandate hair, I'm sorry.

01:01:47.000 We gotta get the logic straight here.

01:01:49.000 No more bald guys.

01:01:51.000 You gotta get hair in order to be a non-criminal.

01:01:55.000 So, hair plugs for everybody to stop crime, and then we'll put a sign in front of the school that says, this is a bald-free zone.

01:02:04.000 In addition to the gun-free zone.

01:02:06.000 That's it!

01:02:07.000 I've got it figured out!

01:02:08.000 Eureka!

01:02:09.000 Folks, this is the solution!

01:02:13.000 You observe whatever happens in the crime.

01:02:17.000 You get all the traits, no matter what object they have, no matter what they look like, what they're wearing.

01:02:21.000 He's wearing blue jeans, so blue jeans must be bad.

01:02:26.000 That's the answer right there.

01:02:27.000 It's all about correlation and connection.

01:02:29.000 Now, oh, look what we have here, folks.

01:02:32.000 Oh my goodness.

01:02:34.000 Thanks for bringing that in.

01:02:36.000 We have a pressure cooker in a black backpack.

01:02:39.000 Obviously a terrible weapon of mass destruction right here in the studio.

01:02:44.000 Oh my goodness, let's open it up.

01:02:46.000 Oh no!

01:02:48.000 It's a pressure cooker!

01:02:50.000 What an evil object!

01:02:52.000 I'm sure that it's been used more in bombings than it has been in cooking chicken.

01:02:58.000 Obviously it's an evil, evil device.

01:03:00.000 So evil.

01:03:02.000 Who makes this pressure cooker? 0.81

01:03:04.000 Where is it made?

01:03:05.000 Let's see.

01:03:06.000 There's even something in it.

01:03:07.000 What did you guys put in here?

01:03:10.000 Presto.

01:03:11.000 The Presto pressure cooker.

01:03:13.000 A terrible item.

01:03:16.000 Let's go to this video where an activist is trying to get college students to ban pressure cookers because they're so evil.

01:03:22.000 Let's go to that.

01:03:24.000 Hi friends, it's Liberal Chick here.

01:03:26.000 And I'm here on the FIU campus to have students sign a petition to ban pressure cookers because I really feel that they are what caused the Boston bombings.

01:03:39.000 So we need to ban them, we need to control who has them, so we can have a safer society.

01:03:46.000 Hi, can I ask you to sign that petition to ban bomb materials?

01:03:51.000 Sure.

01:03:51.000 Awesome, thank you.

01:03:52.000 Well, this is to ban bomb materials.

01:03:54.000 Pressure cookers have been known to be used for a lot of bombs.

01:03:57.000 They were used in the Boston bombings, and so we're trying to limit who can get them, limit who can use them and stuff, so... Daddy's gonna be so proud of me.

01:04:06.000 They were actually used in the Boston bombings, so just trying to limit who can get them and...

01:04:12.000 Yeah, like only like restaurants and stuff, but still it's a little iffy, you know.

01:04:16.000 They've caused like house fires and stuff and just trying to keep people safe by just reducing the number of them.

01:04:24.000 Oh my gosh, thank you so much.

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01:04:26.000 Oh, thank you.

01:04:27.000 So I have my final in this class, a history of the Beatles, in like an hour.

01:04:32.000 Oh, so you wore it to, like, celebrate?

01:04:34.000 Yeah, I usually wear Beatles shirts to every class.

01:04:37.000 So there's a class for history of the Beatles?

01:04:40.000 Only, like, restaurants and stuff.

01:04:43.000 This activist chick is awesome. 1.00

01:04:45.000 She's doing a great job.

01:04:47.000 You have to be careful.

01:04:47.000 You use it a lot?

01:04:49.000 I mean, especially if someone, like, tries to take it from you and, like, make a bomb.

01:04:55.000 Good job, Activist Chick.

01:04:57.000 That was awesome.

01:04:58.000 Great video.

01:04:59.000 You really made your point.

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01:08:00.000 Big Brother.

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01:08:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:26.000 Alright, welcome back.

01:08:27.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

01:08:29.000 Yep, Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex today.

01:08:31.000 Thank you for continuing with us.

01:08:33.000 We've been talking about pressure cookers, and we just showed a video in the last segment about a so-called activist chick, that's sort of her screen name, going on to college campuses and having college students sign petitions to ban pressure cookers.

01:08:47.000 Because, you know, pressure cookers are such evil devices.

01:08:50.000 I've got one in the studio right here in front of me.

01:08:51.000 An actual pressure cooker.

01:08:52.000 Yes!

01:08:53.000 Contraband!

01:08:54.000 Here in the Infowars studio.

01:08:56.000 Somebody call the Austin Police!

01:08:58.000 We've got a pressure cooker right here in the studio!

01:09:00.000 And it's filled with... sugar!

01:09:05.000 That probably is dangerous right there.

01:09:07.000 I got a couple of ideas on the pressure cooker.

01:09:10.000 Here, let me put that lid on.

01:09:11.000 Stop that terrible sound.

01:09:13.000 Okay.

01:09:14.000 Couple of ideas.

01:09:14.000 Number one.

01:09:16.000 What we should really have, and this is me speaking from the heart, is we should have nationwide pressure cooker universal background checks before you purchase a pressure cooker.

01:09:25.000 You gotta give your ID, you gotta fill out a form, and I think we should put the ATF in charge of vetting pressure cooker purchases, because after all, the ATF is alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives.

01:09:40.000 Don't forget the explosives part.

01:09:41.000 It's actually the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

01:09:46.000 Don't forget the E. 0.64

01:09:47.000 This is the E right here.

01:09:49.000 So pressure cookers should now be controlled by the ATF and all the stores that sell pressure cookers like Walmart, Target, I don't know, all these stores, they should now apply for federal firearms licenses.

01:10:03.000 Yeah, they got to be like class 3 retailers.

01:10:06.000 And then they could sell pressure cookers and suppressors and rocket launchers together, right there.

01:10:15.000 That's just what we need.

01:10:17.000 Obviously this is all satire, but universal background checks for pressure cookers, a great idea.

01:10:21.000 Another great idea is...

01:10:24.000 The, what I'm calling the Bill Gates variety of the pressure cooker, where what you do is you surround, instead of filling the pressure cooker with nails and scrap metal and ball bearings, what you do is you fill it with vaccines.

01:10:37.000 And that way, you set it in a crowd, like Bill Gates or one of his minions would set it in a crowd, and when it explodes, it vaccinates everybody!

01:10:45.000 Just instantly vaccinates everybody.

01:10:47.000 Mission accomplished for the government.

01:10:49.000 They love it.

01:10:50.000 And then they can claim, you know, it was a terrorist attack, but thank God people won't get the flu.

01:10:56.000 Thank God that we put vaccines in that bomb, that pressure cooker.

01:11:01.000 So those are my two ideas.

01:11:04.000 Am I getting too cynical in my non-old age?

01:11:08.000 Oh, it's going to be terrible.

01:11:10.000 By the time I'm 80, guys, it's going to be totally out of control.

01:11:14.000 Okay, truthfully, yeah, thanks guys.

01:11:19.000 They said to lock me away before I reach 80.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, look, I'm not doing this for very much longer, believe me, because we're winning at so many levels, man.

01:11:33.000 I can't wait.

01:11:34.000 I can't wait for the mass awakening, the next society based on liberty, which I believe is coming.

01:11:41.000 I think we're going to win at every level.

01:11:45.000 And in the future, you know what?

01:11:48.000 Pressure cookers should remain legal so people can cook their beans and rice.

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01:12:03.000 Because lobster, you can buy lobster on the food stamp program. 0.69

01:12:08.000 Now, in just a few minutes, and yes, by the way, half of what I say here on the show is, like, cynical satire, probably pathetic attempts at comedy.

01:12:17.000 I admit it.

01:12:18.000 It's just... But what else can you do, man?

01:12:21.000 It's so insane!

01:12:22.000 It's so insane, like, banning pressure cookers and...

01:12:27.000 Fake blood on the scene and actors everywhere.

01:12:30.000 It's so insane.

01:12:31.000 What can you do?

01:12:32.000 But, you know, I guess if you have, you know, two brain cells that are functioning, you're a conspiracy theorist now because you can think for yourself.

01:12:39.000 So there you go.

01:12:40.000 But coming up here in just a few minutes, we've got Wayne Allen Root, author of the Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.

01:12:47.000 How to survive, thrive, and prosper during Obamageddon.

01:12:50.000 And he does not endorse my last segment on The Pressure Cooker, by the way.

01:12:54.000 His appearance on the show is not an endorsement of everything I just said.

01:12:58.000 Which is extremely politically incorrect.

01:13:00.000 And that's why I said it.

01:13:03.000 Because this is free speech being exercised right here.

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01:13:14.000 You know, to see the contradictions, to see the hypocrisy when we point them out.

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01:13:24.000 We do both.

01:13:25.000 We do both, because we want you to be informed, but we also want you to have a good day.

01:13:30.000 Even though the police state is collapsing all around us, or expanding all around us, I should say.

01:13:35.000 Liberty is collapsing temporarily.

01:13:38.000 We want you to have a good time.

01:13:40.000 While you're fighting for liberty, okay?

01:13:41.000 That's the bottom line.

01:13:42.000 Now, speaking of people who fight for liberty, we've got Wayne Allen Root, again, author of the Obama Survival Guide, the ultimate Obama Survival Guide, I should say, which is available on Amazon.com and, you know, bookstores everywhere, and I've never interviewed Wayne before, but he joins us now on the Alex Jones Show.

01:14:00.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:14:01.000 Hey Mike, how are ya?

01:14:03.000 I'm having a good time here, just doing my part for liberty.

01:14:05.000 How about you?

01:14:06.000 I'm so thrilled and honored that you have me on.

01:14:08.000 I'm thrilled that you found me, and I'm really thrilled it's the first time I've ever been on Alex Jones.

01:14:13.000 I think I've done every conservative and libertarian talk show on the entire planet except Alex Jones, and I was waiting and wondering when Alex was ever going to call, so I'm glad you called.

01:14:23.000 Well, it's funny.

01:14:24.000 I just happened across your book.

01:14:26.000 I was literally shopping on Amazon, which I do a lot, you know, getting books and things, and your book popped up and the title was fantastic.

01:14:33.000 I did a little research on you.

01:14:34.000 I found your website.

01:14:36.000 I liked what you were proposing.

01:14:38.000 For example, you proposed a one-year income tax holiday where none of us would pay any federal income taxes.

01:14:44.000 Tell us about that.

01:14:49.000 So what I did with this book is they gave me an impossible deal.

01:14:52.000 They said, Wayne, you've got 60 days to write the book, The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.

01:14:58.000 Can you do it? 0.98

01:14:59.000 And I said, are you crazy? 0.98

01:15:00.000 60 days? 0.98

01:15:02.000 And they said, we have faith in you.

01:15:03.000 You'll do it.

01:15:04.000 I brought it in one week early.

01:15:04.000 And I did it.

01:15:06.000 They wanted 50,000 words.

01:15:07.000 I delivered 100,000 one week early.

01:15:08.000 And what we decided You know, the book already is 450 pages of solutions for America instead of the usual criticisms of Obama and nothing but.

01:15:20.000 It's solutions!

01:15:21.000 But they decided that, you know, we'll save the solutions for America for another day at another time.

01:15:27.000 Let's just write the solutions for the individuals.

01:15:29.000 So they cut that out.

01:15:30.000 But I think if you wanted to turn around this economy, you want to turn a horrible, what I call Obama Great Depression, into a boom economy, you would do Reagan on steroids.

01:15:42.000 Ronald Reagan turned around Jimmy Carter's horrible economy, the worst since the Great Depression, in just two years by just cutting taxes from the 70% rate to the 20% rate, and overnight, voila, by rewarding the people that do all the work and invest all the money and risk all the money and work 16 hours a day, the entrepreneurs and the business owners, Overnight, the whole economy turned around.

01:16:03.000 And you could do the same thing now, but I would do it Reagan on steroids. 1.00

01:16:06.000 I would give everyone a one-year income tax vacation.

01:16:09.000 For one year, we all get to keep our own money.

01:16:12.000 Well, I love the idea, and it's actually feasible, because if you look at the banker bailouts that took place, the government instantly created over a trillion dollars when they wanted to, and they gave it to the banksters.

01:16:25.000 They could just create another trillion dollars.

01:16:29.000 Let's see, the personal income tax paid to the federal government each year is about 2 trillion?

01:16:34.000 1.2 trillion.

01:16:35.000 1.2, okay.

01:16:36.000 So they could create that instantly and just say, you don't have to pay any taxes this year.

01:16:36.000 Correct.

01:16:40.000 They could do it.

01:16:41.000 Not only are you right in giving it to the bankers, they've given it to the people, the citizens and the small business owners, the entrepreneurs.

01:16:47.000 But on top of that, the stimulus that Obama created was about a trillion dollars.

01:16:52.000 It was, you know, 800 billion, give or take a 50 billion or so, maybe 800, 850 billion.

01:16:57.000 So that's almost 1.2 trillion.

01:16:59.000 So if you had enough money to give a stimulus out to the biggest Democratic contributors in the world and the people who supported Obama to just hand money to the unions and the Democratic contributors Yeah, crony capitalism.

01:17:13.000 ...and the Obama supporters, you certainly would have had a trillion to give to the actual people that create the jobs, which are us, the taxpayers.

01:17:21.000 Why don't you get to keep our own money instead of handing it out to others?

01:17:24.000 So, it's a tragedy that no one thinks this way, or not enough people think this way.

01:17:29.000 And I just got back, I rushed back to do the interview with you.

01:17:32.000 I gave a keynote speech at a major event in Las Vegas at the Mirage Hotel.

01:17:36.000 And I was telling them a similar story.

01:17:38.000 I was saying, you guys don't get it.

01:17:40.000 This is a worldwide conspiracy.

01:17:43.000 Obama's part of it, but almost every country in the world is doing the same thing.

01:17:47.000 To create two classes of people.

01:17:48.000 The super rich, who are dependent on government for bribes to stay super rich and to get even richer.

01:17:54.000 Bribes like stimulus and bailout and all the other things from green energy to government contracts.

01:18:01.000 And then, and of course, to pump $85 billion a month into the stock market to make sure the richest CEOs in America sell their stocks for $50 to $100 million a year, and then they all support Obama in return for him creating a two-class society, the super-rich and the rest of us who are all poor, or going to soon be poor, dependent on government.

01:18:20.000 So both classes desperately are dependent on the guy in charge, and this creates bigger government and more powerful Well, that's what's maddening about this, the entire Obama philosophy, which is actually bigger than Obama himself, obviously.

01:18:36.000 Correct.

01:18:37.000 But the philosophy is the destruction of innovation and entrepreneurship and small business, the destruction of any self-reliance or independence.

01:18:49.000 It's all about putting everybody in a victim role so they're dependent on the government.

01:18:54.000 And it is destroying the U.S.

01:18:56.000 economy.

01:18:57.000 Well, let me tell you a story.

01:18:59.000 I mean, like I said, my book is mostly solutions, and I hope we get to them when this interview's over, but I still got to tell you this story.

01:18:59.000 book.

01:19:05.000 I don't know what it's interrupting.

01:19:06.000 I got to tell you this.

01:19:08.000 I'm the only guy who could put Obama at the scene of the crime in this whole country, because I was his college classmate.

01:19:12.000 Did you know that?

01:19:13.000 No, I didn't know that.

01:19:14.000 Class of 83, Columbia University.

01:19:17.000 He says he graduated class of 83, same day as me, says he was political science, same as me, says he was pre-law, same as me.

01:19:23.000 If that's true, I never met him, but if that's true, and that's strange too, but let's not get into that.

01:19:28.000 I never saw him, never heard of him, never met him in my entire life, don't know anyone who did, but assuming he went there, and he probably just never went to class, probably too busy attending Communist Party meetings, but assuming he went to class, And we're going to go to break in a few seconds.

01:19:42.000 Sure.

01:19:43.000 Go ahead.

01:19:43.000 Go to break and we'll finish when we get back.

01:19:44.000 All right.

01:19:45.000 All right.

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01:25:04.000 Now, getting back to Wayne Allen Root, the author of the Ultimate Obama Survival Guide, let me read you a quote from Wayne's website that I found, and I like this quote.

01:25:15.000 It's perfect.

01:25:16.000 It's also very uncensored.

01:25:18.000 This is why I like talking to Wayne.

01:25:19.000 He says, quote, Obama is purposely overwhelming the U.S.

01:25:23.000 economy.

01:25:24.000 Yeah, you know what's funny?

01:25:25.000 I just wanted to mention real quick, I sat here, you know, during the break listening to your ads, and your ads are my book!

01:25:31.000 But the bonus is brilliant.

01:25:33.000 As he destroys and taxes to death business owners, he also cripples his political opposition.

01:25:38.000 Strong words, but accurate, Wayne.

01:25:41.000 Yeah, you know what's funny?

01:25:42.000 I just wanted to mention real quick, I sat here during the break listening to your ads, and your ads are my book.

01:25:47.000 The Alex Jones Show is my book, The Ultimate Survival Guide.

01:25:51.000 You know, my book is about lots of great financial advice from 18 of the richest guys in the country, and for me, a common-sense small businessman, how you prosper on all the terrible moves Obama's gonna make And they're not a mistake, he's not inexperienced, they're purposeful.

01:26:05.000 And then my book is about homeschooling, because we homeschool our four children.

01:26:08.000 And my oldest is attending Harvard and now Oxford, straight A student at both, even though she was never in a single class.

01:26:15.000 Good for you.

01:26:16.000 Which proves you don't need the government to educate your kids.

01:26:19.000 And then I interviewed a U.S. Special Forces commando about survival techniques, what you do if everything goes to hell, how to turn your home into a fortress and protect your family, what guns you need, what bullets you need, how much water, how much food.

01:26:31.000 And I'm listening to these ads.

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01:26:37.000 This is me.

01:26:39.000 So I'm so proud to be on your show.

01:26:41.000 I think I found a home.

01:26:42.000 That's what the ultimate Obama survival guide is about.

01:26:45.000 But that's the Columbia story, because I think you'll really be fascinated by this.

01:26:48.000 So I go to Columbia University, and Obama claims he graduated on the same day.

01:26:52.000 And so he must have gone to the same classes, even though I never saw him.

01:26:55.000 He must have known the same people.

01:26:56.000 He must have hung out in the same restaurants nearby.

01:26:59.000 And we must have talked about the same thing.

01:27:00.000 Do you know what they talked about at Columbia 24 hours a day for four years?

01:27:04.000 Destroying capitalism.

01:27:04.000 No.

01:27:06.000 Taking down the American system.

01:27:08.000 I was the Reagan consumerist.

01:27:09.000 conservative at Columbia.

01:27:10.000 And I had to sit and listen to nothing but communist and Marxist radicals all day long telling me how racist America was and how terrible America was and how it was a system that breeded inequality and there was no fairness and the system had to be taken down completely and destroyed.

01:27:28.000 And how did they plan to do it?

01:27:30.000 All day long for four years, this is what I heard ad nauseum.

01:27:33.000 How did these radicals who all outwardly, proudly, publicly said, wait, I'm a communist.

01:27:39.000 All my fellow students, not most of them, 99% of them said they hated the system and resented the system and wanted to destroy capitalism and bankrupt all the rich people.

01:27:39.000 They said this.

01:27:49.000 And they said they'd do it with a system called Cloward and Piven.

01:27:53.000 Two Columbia professors who were married, who had a system.

01:27:58.000 They were married.

01:27:58.000 They were You had to destroy America from within, and you could only do it by electing a guy who's a handsome guy, who looks good, who wears nice suits, who cuts his hair or his afro to look like a lawyer.

01:27:58.000 They were married.

01:28:09.000 He looks like Mr. Prosecutor, Mr. Lawyer, someone you respect, a businessman.

01:28:14.000 He shakes hands, he kisses babies, he hugs women, he smiles with pearly white teeth.

01:28:19.000 He tells people that he's a uniter, not a divider.

01:28:22.000 He tells people And he's a convincing linguistic speaker with lots of manipulations in his speech.

01:28:34.000 And then he destroys the system from within with this specific, Mike, this specific agenda.

01:28:34.000 Yeah.

01:28:34.000 That's it.

01:28:40.000 He overwhelms the system with government spending, debt, and entitlement, meaning food stamps, disability, welfare, aid to dependent children, free meals at school, unemployment extended forever.

01:28:54.000 Let me ask you something, folks.

01:28:55.000 Does this sound like what's happening right now?

01:28:57.000 Yeah.

01:28:58.000 This isn't a mistake.

01:28:59.000 That's the playbook right there.

01:29:00.000 That's it.

01:29:01.000 This isn't a mistake.

01:29:02.000 This was a purposeful plan devised at Columbia.

01:29:04.000 in front of me and my classmate got elected and he is carrying it out. 0.97

01:29:09.000 Don't think Obama's dumb, I think he's brilliant. - Well, he's a brilliant manipulator, absolutely. 0.99

01:29:16.000 Now, we've got to go to another break here, but when we come back from the break, I'd like you to get into some of the solutions.

01:29:21.000 Specifically, how do we protect ourselves from the train wreck of Obamacare and all the new taxes that are going to be kicking in over the next three years to punish us for not buying the overpriced private insurance that the government wants us to buy?

01:29:36.000 And how do we protect ourselves from the economy being gutted by Obama?

01:29:40.000 And also, how do we protect our liberties?

01:29:42.000 So those are some of the questions I have for you.

01:29:44.000 Wayne Allen Root continues with us after this break here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:29:48.000 We'll be right back.

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01:33:28.000 Just to throw everybody for a loop.

01:33:37.000 What we ought to do, we were talking about this during the break here with the crew, we ought to have like a pressure cooker homeless food drive, you know?

01:33:44.000 Like drive around town with a bunch of pressure cookers on a trailer, feeding the homeless, just to freak people out, to say, gosh, are they good or are they evil?

01:33:53.000 I mean, they're helping hungry people, but my God, they have pressure cookers and pressure cookers are evil.

01:34:01.000 That's the kind of thing we like to do just to make people think.

01:34:04.000 You know?

01:34:04.000 I'm sure the Austin police would find that very amusing.

01:34:08.000 Anyway, I'm sure they're listening right now shaking their heads, oh my god.

01:34:12.000 I hope these Infowars people don't drive around town with pressure cookers.

01:34:17.000 By getting back to our guest, Wayne, do you have a pressure cooker in your home?

01:34:22.000 Because that could be a sign that you're evil.

01:34:25.000 Yeah, well, certainly Obama thinks I'm evil because I have the ultimate Obama survival guide in my book.

01:34:29.000 And by the way, we don't have time for this today, but I wrote a commentary at the Blaze, Glenn Beck site, back in, I don't know, I guess it was last August, about the fact that literally no one in the country has a bigger mouth than me against Obama.

01:34:40.000 I've been everywhere in the media for four years ripping this guy to shreds, and suddenly I had a major IRS attack.

01:34:46.000 Really?

01:34:47.000 I mean, literally, they came after me with a vengeance, and I had to hire one of the best tax lawyers in America, if not the best tax lawyer.

01:34:47.000 All my life.

01:34:53.000 And he said, my God, I've never seen anything like this.

01:34:56.000 You are on the president's enemies list.

01:34:57.000 So you're talking about a Chicago thug that comes after people with the government, with the police state, with the Internal Revenue Service.

01:35:05.000 You're talking about massive audits, massive taxes, massive regulations.

01:35:10.000 Did you know I went to the government's own website and the last 90 days from January 1st to the end of the first quarter, March 31st, 6,118 new government regulations.

01:35:21.000 This guy must have sweat shops with lawyers working in shifts 24 hours a day to think up ways to destroy the American economy.

01:35:31.000 Are you kidding me?

01:35:31.000 That's how they wrote the health care bill.

01:35:33.000 It had to be like a sweatshop word processing convention.

01:35:37.000 And they're doing it with the immigration bill too.

01:35:39.000 It's almost a thousand pages.

01:35:40.000 And you know there's lawyer legalese in it that none of us can even read.

01:35:44.000 No!

01:35:44.000 That is intended to destroy the country.

01:35:46.000 You know it!

01:35:47.000 The trick is to overwhelm the legislators with so much language that they can't possibly parse it.

01:35:52.000 And overwhelm guys like me.

01:35:54.000 I can't keep up with all the bad bills and bad policies and bad executive actions.

01:36:00.000 On the Exorcist, okay?

01:36:04.000 Well, let's get to some solutions, though.

01:36:06.000 We promised listeners that, and I know that's what your book is mostly about.

01:36:08.000 It's called The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.

01:36:11.000 And by the way, I ordered your book.

01:36:13.000 It's been the last three weeks.

01:36:16.000 Number one finance book at Amazon, and the number one conservative or liberal book at Amazon.

01:36:20.000 Really?

01:36:21.000 Well, good job.

01:36:22.000 I don't know.

01:36:23.000 I'd never heard of it until a couple of days ago, so I just literally stumbled across it online.

01:36:28.000 I ordered the book.

01:36:28.000 I haven't received it yet, so I haven't read it yet.

01:36:31.000 But, in any case, it sounds very intriguing.

01:36:33.000 Tell us about some of the solutions that are in the book.

01:36:35.000 Sure.

01:36:35.000 So I came up with an 18-point plan that I believe is a common sense small business man could help you compete with Obama.

01:36:41.000 It's called Y-Pod, because I know everything needs a catchy name.

01:36:44.000 Y-Pod, it's your personal Obama defense shield.

01:36:49.000 I went out and interviewed 18 of the richest guys in America to make sure I was right, and asked them what their game plan is, and these guys are worth $100 million or more, a couple of billionaires, three of them manage billion-dollar hedge funds, and guess what they said?

01:37:01.000 They all basically agreed.

01:37:02.000 I wrote 18 chapters with what they said in the book.

01:37:05.000 So you get my advice, and then you get the advice of 18 really rich, successful guys telling you what they're doing.

01:37:10.000 It kind of matched.

01:37:11.000 But is it also applicable to regular income people who aren't wealthy?

01:37:18.000 So here's some of the things that we all agreed on, though.

01:37:20.000 I think it's important to hear what me, Wayne Root, you know, a small businessman, common sense guy, said that agrees with what the 18 millionaires and billionaires highfalutin guy said.

01:37:29.000 Who all dislike Obama, by the way.

01:37:31.000 They're more us than they are them.

01:37:33.000 But having said that, so number one, they all agreed you gotta buy gold.

01:37:37.000 There wasn't one of the 18 who didn't believe that gold isn't the answer as the economy is destroyed, as debt is massively increased, as spending will only go up whether it's Republican or or Democrats, it isn't going to make a difference.

01:37:48.000 Is Obama the worst?

01:37:49.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:37:50.000 Is he the worst on steroids?

01:37:51.000 Yes.

01:37:52.000 Is he the biggest government nanny state socialist Marxist you'll ever find?

01:37:55.000 Yes.

01:37:56.000 But guess what?

01:37:57.000 Romney wouldn't have been much better and George W. Bush wasn't much better and even my hero, Ronald Reagan, government increased dramatically under Reagan.

01:38:04.000 So you're never going to stop it.

01:38:05.000 It just isn't going to happen.

01:38:07.000 So, the debt will continue to go up.

01:38:07.000 Yeah.

01:38:10.000 And if you know the debt will go up in America and all over the world, Japan is basically twice as in-debt as America, twice as bad as Greece.

01:38:17.000 Japan is dead. 0.97

01:38:18.000 If you know Europe is dead.

01:38:19.000 Europe's entering a Great Depression right now as we speak.

01:38:22.000 I believe America is as well, but Europe's even worse.

01:38:24.000 Well yeah, and they're just taking money out of private bank accounts across Europe.

01:38:28.000 The only way out of this, according to big government liberals, the only way out, to me the way out, Mike, is you cut spending dramatically.

01:38:36.000 Yes.

01:38:36.000 And so the only way out is you inflate.

01:38:39.000 You inflate, inflate, inflate.

01:38:40.000 You print, you print, you print.

01:38:42.000 You spend, you spend, you spend.

01:38:43.000 That's right.

01:38:43.000 So therefore, you want to own gold.

01:38:45.000 Here are some numbers that will blow your mind, though.

01:38:47.000 I'll bet your audience never heard these numbers.

01:38:49.000 They're from my book.

01:38:50.000 In 1913, if you had a million dollars, today it's worth $40,000.

01:38:55.000 If you kept your money in the U.S.

01:38:56.000 dollar, it's worth $40,000 because of the effects of inflation.

01:38:59.000 If you took the same million and you put it in gold, you know what it's worth today?

01:38:59.000 Right.

01:39:02.000 $47 million.

01:39:04.000 $77 million.

01:39:07.000 71, today it's worth $200,000.

01:39:09.000 If you took the same million and put it in gold, over $40 million today.

01:39:13.000 So when CNBC and all their experts tell you not to buy gold, and Warren Buffett tells you not to buy gold, gold has outperformed Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway stock by 300% since the year 2000.

01:39:25.000 No, they tell you not to buy gold because that's a political agenda on their part.

01:39:31.000 Correct.

01:39:31.000 They want you in the U.S.

01:39:32.000 dollar, and they want you in the stock market to make all these rich guys rich so they can back Obama, all for the obvious reasons they want to fool you.

01:39:39.000 Biggest Ponzi scheme in world history, by the way, the stock market.

01:39:42.000 Oh, of course.

01:39:43.000 Completely rigged.

01:39:44.000 So, number two, what do these guys say?

01:39:46.000 What do I say?

01:39:47.000 Move to a no-tax state.

01:39:48.000 See, you can't avoid Obama's taxes.

01:39:51.000 I'm not a magic man, Mike.

01:39:52.000 I can't wave a wand and say, you won't have to pay the taxes.

01:39:55.000 But at least if you're living in Nevada, where I live, If you're living in Texas or Florida, your state income tax is zero.

01:40:01.000 So as Obama increases taxes by, say, 20%, which is overwhelming and you can't survive and you can't pay your mortgage and you can't take care of your kids properly, you go to a state where you pay 20% less and it evens out.

01:40:13.000 You're not doing any better, but at least you're not doing worse.

01:40:16.000 All of the 18 millionaires and billionaires have moved to either Nevada, Texas, or Florida.

01:40:21.000 It was just random.

01:40:22.000 I called them.

01:40:23.000 I didn't know they lived in those states.

01:40:24.000 They all said, I got out of Illinois.

01:40:25.000 I got out of New York.

01:40:26.000 I got out of California.

01:40:27.000 California, yeah.

01:40:28.000 There's a nightmare tax state.

01:40:29.000 I got to get out of Maryland and move to Virginia.

01:40:31.000 Much better just walking across a border.

01:40:33.000 So that's one way to help yourself.

01:40:35.000 They all said invest in farmland and agriculture stocks.

01:40:38.000 Oh, I've said the same thing.

01:40:39.000 Yeah, food producing land.

01:40:40.000 Yep.

01:40:44.000 Well, personally, I wouldn't own Exxon Mobil, but I hear what you're saying.

01:40:47.000 But what about defense against Obamacare?

01:40:49.000 up to the pump and filling up your gas tank and complaining, next time you'll cheer when the price of gas goes up.

01:40:54.000 Why are you complaining when all you have to do is own Exxon Mobil, and when the price goes up, you make money?

01:40:59.000 Well, I wouldn't.

01:41:00.000 Personally, I wouldn't own Exxon Mobil, but I hear what you're saying.

01:41:03.000 But what about defense against Obamacare?

01:41:05.000 What can we do in that realm?

01:41:06.000 Well, you know, first of all, I interviewed a doctor, you know, a real important MD who refused to put his name on it.

01:41:13.000 He did an anonymous chapter that told you all the ways to deal with Obamacare.

01:41:17.000 But I'd rather tell you the financial end that I recommend.

01:41:20.000 And the financial end is, look, you'll deal with Obamacare by hearing what medical experts say.

01:41:25.000 I'm not one and don't claim to be one, but I'm a financial guy.

01:41:28.000 I'm a smart, common sense guy.

01:41:30.000 And I think you should invest in medical real estate and medical stocks.

01:41:34.000 Why?

01:41:34.000 Because the government is the one now in charge of medical.

01:41:38.000 And the government, when they spend, couldn't care less how much they're spending because there's no one watching over them and it's not their money.

01:41:45.000 So we all know they buy $10 wrenches at the Pentagon for $500.

01:41:48.000 And they fix toilets with a little ring that costs $0.20 and they pay $100 for it.

01:41:53.000 They're now going to do that in the medical field.

01:41:55.000 So if I was you, I would make sure I owned pharmaceutical companies on the stock exchange.

01:41:59.000 I would make sure I owned any form of a medical company that will benefit from 40 million people without health insurance being now forced into the system and the government's paying the bill.

01:42:10.000 I think health insurance companies, Mike, are going to get rich.

01:42:12.000 But I hear you on the financial side, but what about morally?

01:42:18.000 I'm going to challenge a little bit on this point on the pharmaceutical companies, because morally, you know, so many of these companies are engaged in so many crimes, corruption, bribery, kickbacks, killing people, medical experiments on children and so on.

01:42:30.000 You could challenge me.

01:42:30.000 I won't debate you.

01:42:31.000 All I'll say to you is I'm a capitalist and I believe in making money because with the money, I could choose to do good.

01:42:37.000 I give a lot of money to charity.

01:42:38.000 I give about $100,000 a year to charity.

01:42:40.000 I take care of people.

01:42:41.000 I take care of my family.

01:42:43.000 And if all of you make money on my advice, you'll do good things with your money, protect your own families.

01:42:48.000 To me, it's sticking your head in the sand to say, morally, I disagree with what pharmaceutical companies do because I'm with you.

01:42:54.000 I'm a health nut.

01:42:54.000 I disagree.

01:42:55.000 I eat organic food and take 100 vitamin pills a day, and I hate what the FDA does on behalf of pharmaceutical companies to good vitamin manufacturers.

01:43:03.000 But having said that, if I see a good opportunity, I'm going to try and make some money and help you protect your health.

01:43:09.000 Well, I would say, but by the way, just let me throw this in, I would say there are some medical device companies that are a lot more ethical than the big pharma companies are very unethical, but there might be some, let's say generic pharmaceutical companies that aren't engaged in all these crimes, that are just doing sort of basic, you know, antibiotics that

01:43:30.000 Well, listen, my ultimate recommendation for the medical end of things, for fighting Obamacare, is you don't want to get in the system.

01:43:40.000 That's right, yeah, that's right.

01:43:44.000 You don't want to deal with government, so you want to take vitamins, you want to be healthy, you want to work out, you want to eat organic, and so invest in Whole Foods.

01:43:54.000 Yes.

01:43:54.000 A Whole Foods company.

01:43:55.000 Invest in vitamin manufacturers.

01:43:57.000 That's your angle, okay?

01:43:57.000 Yes.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, I got it.

01:44:01.000 I just never want to get in the system.

01:44:03.000 I'm going to be so healthy, I don't want to ever get near a hospital or be involved in the system.

01:44:07.000 Yeah, because once you do, then you get sicker, then you get C. diff infections, then you get superbugs, then you get side effects, then it's worse.

01:44:14.000 And meanwhile, all you have to do is eat healthy and take vitamins and you never get sick.

01:44:17.000 That's right.

01:44:17.000 I've never been sick in my life.

01:44:19.000 And I've been taking vitamins since I was 15 years old.

01:44:21.000 I've been a vitamin nut.

01:44:22.000 I was a bodybuilder and an athlete, and I took good care of my body.

01:44:25.000 Never smoked, never drank, never done a drug.

01:44:27.000 Lots of vitamins, lots of working out, and I've never really been sick other than sniffles in my whole life.

01:44:32.000 So you don't need the medical system if you take care of yourself, but the government and the pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know that.

01:44:39.000 But Mike, that doesn't mean I'm not willing to make a bet on a pharmaceutical company and make an extra $10,000 and therefore take care of my family.

01:44:47.000 Well, but the real issue here is that Obama is forcing us to buy into a system that we don't want to use.

01:44:53.000 Understood.

01:44:54.000 It's all going to come crashing down.

01:44:55.000 We all know that.

01:44:56.000 It cannot work.

01:44:59.000 bonds and real estate may be the most important thing I could tell you today.

01:45:02.000 Because not only did I write that as my singular most important thing besides gold and moving to a low-tech state, that was number three, but all the 18 millionaires and billionaires agreed, don't invest in American biotech companies, don't invest in American pharmaceuticals, invest in ones that supply China, India, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, invest in ones that supply China, India, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Australia, New Zealand, Why?

01:45:24.000 Because those are countries where people are still hungry and ambitious, and they know you either work or you starve to death.

01:45:30.000 So those countries are going to kick our butt for the next 10 years and grow much faster than us, and you want to invest in ETFs, exchange-traded funds, and mutual funds that invest in those countries' pharmaceutical and technology and electronic and hospitality Well, what about people who don't have money to invest?

01:45:49.000 I mean, they're barely getting by, the tax burden is so huge, there's so much money going out the door.

01:45:54.000 What do they do?

01:45:55.000 What do they do?

01:45:55.000 So, listen, if you have no money, I can't wage a magic wand and make you money, but I could tell you move to a place where you keep more of your own money.

01:46:02.000 You don't work one day longer, but you keep an extra 10% or 20%.

01:46:05.000 That makes sense.

01:46:06.000 I could have you invest in your children's education by explaining how I homeschooled my daughter to Harvard and Oxford.

01:46:11.000 She's now a straight-A student and won the John Harvard Award and the highest honors in Oxford a month ago without ever being in a classroom in her life, and I could show you that in the Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.

01:46:21.000 And then I can educate you through a U.S. military special forces commando how to...

01:46:27.000 Buy the best survival materials you can for your house, to turn your home into a fortress, and to take care of your family.

01:46:33.000 All of that, without me being the expert.

01:46:35.000 I found the right experts in the ultimate Obama survival guide.

01:46:39.000 And here's one more thing for a guy who doesn't make a lot of money, Mike.

01:46:42.000 I said this on Fox News two days ago.

01:46:44.000 I said, you know, you have people like schoolteachers.

01:46:47.000 I don't mean to single out anyone, but I always hear schoolteachers, members of the teachers' union complaining, I only make $70,000 a year.

01:46:52.000 I should make $100,000.

01:46:53.000 I should make $150,000.

01:46:54.000 No, the taxpayers aren't responsible for your money.

01:47:00.000 God never woke up one day and said, you have a right to only work one job, and the U.S. 0.58

01:47:03.000 Constitution doesn't say that.

01:47:05.000 Go get a second job.

01:47:06.000 Go get a third job.

01:47:07.000 You may have to work twice as hard to make half the money.

01:47:10.000 That's what I do.

01:47:11.000 How come you can't do it?

01:47:12.000 I have multiple careers, Mike.

01:47:14.000 I work 16 hours a day.

01:47:16.000 I work weekends.

01:47:16.000 I work holidays.

01:47:17.000 I've never taken a full day off in 20 years, and that's why Obama calls me rich.

01:47:22.000 But you know what the reality is?

01:47:25.000 Maybe everyone should take up that idea that you gotta work hard in America to make money again, and maybe a poor person will become much more successful.

01:47:34.000 I completely agree.

01:47:35.000 I completely agree with you.

01:47:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm in the same boat.

01:47:38.000 You know, built my network, my system from nothing but hard work for, you know, decades of hard work.

01:47:46.000 But you see, psychologically, the system today has become so invested in victimization and dependence that on the radical left, I'm going to say, they feel like Your money belongs to them, you know.

01:47:59.000 How dare you want to keep your money?

01:48:01.000 They should get the food stamps, they should get unlimited welfare, you know.

01:48:05.000 And Obama encourages that!

01:48:06.000 Man, they want to pull you down to their level.

01:48:08.000 Yes, they do.

01:48:08.000 This is sheer misery.

01:48:09.000 Yes.

01:48:10.000 But, you know, listen, when you talk about victimization, I'll tell you a very funny story.

01:48:14.000 Did you know in January, did Alex Jones tell his audience in January that the United States government labeled anyone who has food allergies as disabled?

01:48:21.000 Did you know that?

01:48:24.000 my whole life, and that's the reason I got into vitamins and health food.

01:48:27.000 I'm gluten intolerant, and I don't eat regular bread anymore.

01:48:31.000 I eat the gluten-free bread.

01:48:32.000 I don't want a wheelchair. 1.00

01:48:34.000 I don't want a disability check.

01:48:35.000 It's no big deal.

01:48:36.000 I've lived a wonderful life while I have terrible allergies.

01:48:39.000 Who cares?

01:48:40.000 But this is all part of Obama's campaign to destroy us mentally and make us all believe we are weak and capable of taking care of ourselves.

01:48:49.000 Absolutely.

01:48:50.000 I think that's it.

01:48:51.000 Essentially, the Marxist mindset sucks the soul out of humans. 1.00

01:48:57.000 I mean, it literally sucks your soul away and leaves you as a pathetic victim, a dependent, and also a de-educated, dumbed-down person. 0.99

01:49:07.000 You mentioned your daughter was homeschooled, and Ron Paul has worked with Gary North to put out a homeschool curriculum that looks fantastic. 0.98

01:49:14.000 But public education is really about de-educating people to make them, as George Carlin said, obedient workers to the system.

01:49:22.000 Correct.

01:49:22.000 How bad is that?

01:49:25.000 Barack Obama was re-elected, so he's smart, that's why they do that.

01:49:28.000 They push you like sheep or cattle, they herd you into the public school system, where you are taught on a daily basis that this is a terrible nation, it is a racist nation, it hates blacks, gays, and Hispanics, it hates anyone who isn't white in the power structure, and that we have to atone for terrible things we've done forevermore.

01:49:44.000 Our nation's built upon greed, and you've got to elect people like Barack Obama with a politically correct agenda that believes in fairness, equality, and social justice. 0.95

01:49:52.000 And sure enough, we re-elected a man who has created the worst economy since the Great Depression in 1929, and most of the damage has been upon women, blacks, and Hispanics. 1.00

01:50:02.000 Yep, that's right. 0.62

01:50:03.000 He's damaging his own support base.

01:50:04.000 Now, we've only got a few seconds left here, Wayne.

01:50:07.000 I want you to give out your website so people can check out your information there.

01:50:12.000 I love your enthusiasm, Wayne, and most of your ideas.

01:50:15.000 Your book is awesome.

01:50:16.000 three weeks now, and it's available at Amazon.com or any fine bookstore, Sam's Club, Costco, Barnes and Noble.

01:50:21.000 And my website is root4america.com.

01:50:24.000 That's R-O-O-T for America.com. 0.69

01:50:27.000 Because Mike, that's what I do every day is root for this great country, root for America.

01:50:31.000 Well, I love your enthusiasm, Wayne, and most of your ideas.

01:50:34.000 Your book is awesome.

01:50:36.000 I'm going to read it soon.

01:50:36.000 So thanks for joining us here today.

01:50:38.000 Hey, thank you.

01:50:38.000 And God bless everyone.

01:50:39.000 Let's keep We've got to save the middle class and small business from these crazy people who are out to wipe us out.

01:50:45.000 All right.

01:50:46.000 Thank you, Wayne.

01:50:47.000 Thank you.

01:50:47.000 All right.

01:50:48.000 There goes Wayne.

01:50:49.000 Alan Root there.

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01:54:15.000 I'm going to cover... That was an interesting interview with Wayne Allen Root.

01:54:20.000 Definitely a high energy guy.

01:54:21.000 Got some great ideas.

01:54:22.000 I'm going to check out his book and sort of see where he's going with all those ideas.

01:54:27.000 But I appreciate him coming on the show.

01:54:29.000 I like to mix up the guests here.

01:54:31.000 I don't want to have the same person on over and over and over again.

01:54:36.000 I like to bring in some new perspectives, some new voices from time to time.

01:54:40.000 So I always try to reach out and bring in new people.

01:54:44.000 And by the way, Alex doesn't even normally know who I'm bringing on.

01:54:49.000 So if you ever wonder how this works around here when I'm hosting.

01:54:56.000 The truth is, I invite my own guests.

01:54:58.000 And sometimes Alex will recommend, you know, we want this person on, but then I'll invite a couple other guests.

01:55:05.000 So it's actually pretty much up to me who I bring on.

01:55:08.000 And that seems to have worked out, you know, pretty well.

01:55:11.000 So, in case you're curious.

01:55:14.000 Alex usually calls me, he usually calls me like just a couple days before.

01:55:18.000 Can you host?

01:55:21.000 Like, oh man, I was gonna go on a picnic that day, but we'll rearrange things.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, I'll come and host for you.

01:55:29.000 Anyway, in this segment, oh by the way, we've got a guest coming up in the next hour, Dr. Chris Busby.

01:55:37.000 With news about, let's see, the Iraq effects with depleted uranium, veterans dying of cancer.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, we've covered that quite a bit on the show here, but we'll get, I guess, more details on that from Dr. Busby when we get into the third hour.

01:55:51.000 But until then, I wanted to read you this.

01:55:53.000 Well, not word for word, but just go over it with you.

01:55:56.000 Ten civilization-shaping trends for 2013 that are driving us into social and spiritual crisis.

01:56:02.000 This is an article I put together.

01:56:04.000 It's on InfoWars.com and also my website, NaturalNews.com.

01:56:08.000 I just wanted to go over this because I feel like this is really crucial for us to understand the big trends of what's happening.

01:56:16.000 So, let's go over these very quickly.

01:56:18.000 Number one, we've got the rise of human-engineered genetics.

01:56:21.000 You know, GMOs, you're familiar with that.

01:56:23.000 But also now in animals and soon in babies.

01:56:26.000 And this is a very dangerous, mad science experiment that we need to be very careful with.

01:56:31.000 Number two, the reality escapism.

01:56:34.000 Google Glass, social networks, online gaming, they are providing venues for people to escape reality and actually get deeper into what I call detachment from the real world.

01:56:45.000 And from detachment comes all these other problems, mental health problems, physical health problems, sociological problems, and so on.

01:56:53.000 People don't feel like they're really part of a human civilization anymore.

01:56:57.000 They're living out their lives in these virtual worlds.

01:57:01.000 Number three, the demonization of normalcy.

01:57:04.000 So everything that's normal is now being demonized.

01:57:07.000 And everything that's freakish or abnormal is being celebrated by the trendies.

01:57:13.000 So, normalcy is the new closet.

01:57:15.000 If you're normal, you gotta hide in the closet because, you know, you're normal.

01:57:19.000 Number four, the rise of omission journalism.

01:57:21.000 The mainstream media is mostly focused now on making sure they leave things out of the news, like the abortion murder trial in Philadelphia, like the DHS bullets, like the real story on the Boston Marathon bombing, and so on.

01:57:35.000 It's all about what they leave out.

01:57:36.000 Omission journalism.

01:57:38.000 Number five, the idiocracy effect, where the people who are reproducing the most across the board are those who are least qualified to lead human civilization forward. 0.97

01:57:48.000 Those who are most capable tend to have the least children, and this was obviously depicted in the movie by Mike Judge called Idiocracy, which took us, I don't know, a few hundred years in the future, where human civilization devolved into a bunch of idiots walking around And anyone who used, you know, big words like, uh, cognitive, was considered a Mr. Big Words Fancy Pants. 0.94

01:58:10.000 Using big words like cognitive. 0.67

01:58:13.000 All right, we'll get into the rest of this list after we come back, but number six here is the censorship and criminalization of knowledge.

01:58:22.000 We'll get to that and the others when we come back here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:58:25.000 Stay with us.

01:58:26.000 We've also got Dr. Busby straight ahead, our guest for the third hour with an update on Fukushima and radiation, plus some other news and commentary, so stay with us.

01:58:35.000 We'll be right back.

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02:00:22.000 All right, we're into the third hour there.

02:00:30.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:32.000 Welcome back.

02:00:33.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in here for Alex today.

02:00:36.000 We've got Dr. Busby coming up in just a few minutes with updates on Fukushima radiation and radiological weapons.

02:00:45.000 So that should be an interesting segment for sure.

02:00:48.000 He's standing by, we'll get to him in a few minutes, but I want to continue with this list of 10 civilization-shaping trends for 2013.

02:00:56.000 Not to borrow, you know, not to borrow the word trends from Gerald Salenti, who's, by the way, probably my favorite guest here on the show.

02:01:04.000 He did a great job hosting the other day as well.

02:01:06.000 But these are trends that aren't financial trends, but big picture trends of where we're headed.

02:01:12.000 So, it's crucial to know this, and I'll tell you why at the end, because we're getting to an era that I call the suffering, followed by what I call the rise of the consciousness movement, which is also a spiritual renaissance movement.

02:01:24.000 But, point number six here is the censorship and criminalization of knowledge.

02:01:30.000 Now this is about the system, the government, the globalists, destroying knowledge.

02:01:35.000 They've already done it with nutritional supplements where it's illegal to tell the truth about how a natural herb or vitamin or supplement can prevent disease.

02:01:44.000 But they want to do it with all areas, so they want to destroy society's memory of history.

02:01:52.000 And they're doing this by demonizing the Founding Fathers, they're doing this by demonizing the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, by teaching a revisionist history in public schools and so on.

02:02:02.000 Lots of ways that they're trying to destroy knowledge and make society as a whole forget where it came from and how it got to where we are today.

02:02:14.000 Because if you can erase someone's memory, then you can manipulate them, which is what the government wants to do.

02:02:19.000 So, destroying knowledge, destroying memory, is all about manipulating the immediate future.

02:02:25.000 Number seven, selective dehumanization.

02:02:29.000 And this is about abandoning the value of life, and we see this with the abortions, and the post-birth abortions, you know, the abortion murderer, On trial alleged murderer, on trial who was killing babies with a pair of scissors after they were born.

02:02:45.000 It's all dehumanization.

02:02:47.000 They say they're not really babies, they're just a choice.

02:02:50.000 You know, dehumanized.

02:02:52.000 Number eight, the theaterization of narratives for political gain.

02:02:55.000 False flags, in other words.

02:02:57.000 This is about the government using public theater Which is, you know, 9-11, which is the Waco attack, which is Sandy Hook, public theater to accomplish its political goals because it gets so much more traction, it's so much more psychologically efficient.

02:03:17.000 For the government to conduct reactionary theater rather than actually pursue proactive education that would move people in a positive direction.

02:03:28.000 They know that through terror and fear they can have highly viral memes spread throughout the population that will then lead to their political goals.

02:03:37.000 Number nine, the end of privacy.

02:03:40.000 Yeah, the government wants to end all privacy.

02:03:42.000 The NSA spy center being constructed in Utah is all about tracking every email, tweet, voice, phone call, phone text, everything, every web address you ever visit, every web form you ever fill out.

02:03:54.000 It's all going to be tracked and cross-referenced and then used to incriminate you.

02:04:00.000 And then number 10 is the rewriting of history.

02:04:01.000 We've covered this briefly before, but this is really, again, about destroying society's memory.

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02:04:11.000 And where is this all heading us?

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02:08:33.000 Yes, this is the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:34.000 This is the third hour.

02:08:36.000 Welcome back.

02:08:37.000 We are featuring this hour an interview with Dr. Christopher Busby, an expert on radiation in Fukushima, who has been very outspoken about the dangers of even low levels of ionizing radiation from not just the Fukushima disaster, but other radiological events.

02:08:55.000 And he joins us by Skype now to give us the latest breakdown on radiological weapons, a little bit of update on Fukushima, and some thyroid problems in children, a few other points as well.

02:09:06.000 Welcome to the show, Dr. Busby.

02:09:09.000 Yes, hello.

02:09:10.000 I'm talking to you from Riga.

02:09:12.000 I headed off to the woods and I'm now in the woods in my little house in Latvia.

02:09:18.000 And what I want to talk to you about really, I mean it's my main thing, but I'll just plug it again, is what I see as the, and what actually is, the biggest human health, public health scandal of all time, which is this released to the environment by scientists since 1945 of all these radioactive substances like strontium-19, plutonium-239 and cesium-137 and all that.

02:09:45.000 And this whole umbrella of this radiological public health scandal covers all of the things that I've researched in the last 20 years.

02:09:54.000 Fukushima, Chernobyl, increases in childhood cancer near nuclear sites, contaminated sea.

02:10:02.000 We've done work on the Baltic Sea, on the Irish Sea.

02:10:05.000 And most recently, of course, I've been involved in looking at depleted uranium and even some kind of new enriched uranium weapon which has been deployed by the Israelis in Lebanon and also in Fallujah, as we found out and published in the literature.

02:10:22.000 So it's made me public enemy number one, of course, amongst the people who plug nuclear power stations.

02:10:27.000 Well, I'm sure.

02:10:28.000 But, but, if you look at the sources of all this, so, you're talking about not only nuclear power, but nuclear weapons testing, obviously.

02:10:35.000 Do you get into nuclear medical exposure?

02:10:39.000 Well nuclear medical exposure is mostly external and this is, and I think it's quite relevant for me to point out that it's not about low-level radiation.

02:10:50.000 The argument is not about low-level radiation, it's about external and internal radiation because actually radiation is measured in various units, millisieverts and millirads and These units relate to energy that's transferred to the human body.

02:11:07.000 So it's a physics-based unit that is used.

02:11:11.000 And the problem is, the big problem is, that it doesn't work for internal radionuclides.

02:11:15.000 And I can briefly explain why.

02:11:18.000 The transfer of external energy, like gamma rays, into the body is the same as sitting in front of the fire and heating yourself and warming yourself up.

02:11:26.000 You can get so many joules per kilogram of your body in terms of heat energy.

02:11:32.000 But you could get the same number of joules per kilogram into your body if you reached into the fire and you ate a hot coal.

02:11:38.000 And that's a very reasonable analogy, but the difference between standing somewhere where the radioactivity level is slightly higher, so you've got external radiation like from an x-ray machine or something like that.

02:11:50.000 Which is actually not, it may be low-level radiation, but it's not a big deal.

02:11:54.000 But then ingesting or inhaling radioactive iodine, like for instance from Fukushima, or particles of depleted uranium from some weaponized use in Iraq, those things, those tiny tiny particles and the internal radionuclides that damage the DNA, they are the serious problem.

02:12:12.000 And that is the biggest public health scandal of all time.

02:12:17.000 No, I just wanted to ask you the question.

02:12:19.000 So externally, the radioactive particles, you are subject to them via the inverse square law of distance, right?

02:12:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:12:29.000 It's just like sitting in front of a light.

02:12:31.000 But then internally, your distance to the particle is zero.

02:12:31.000 Right.

02:12:35.000 Absolutely so.

02:12:36.000 And a lot of these particles are alpha emitters too, which normally an alpha particle wouldn't pass through your skin.

02:12:42.000 But uranium, for example, plutonium, they're alpha emitters and they're sitting inside you.

02:12:47.000 And so they only have a very short range and they damage, they produce enormous local doses to cells.

02:12:53.000 So it isn't at all low-level radiation.

02:12:55.000 But the con is this, that the nuclear industry, or in fact the military who started this way back in the 50s, The con is that they dilute all of that energy into the whole body, whereas actually the energy is all in one place, usually on the DNA.

02:13:09.000 Yeah.

02:13:11.000 In turn, this is outrageous.

02:13:13.000 Well, in terms of internal sources, this is fascinating.

02:13:15.000 I've got a lot of questions for you already, but in your assessment, is it a higher risk of internal exposure through inhalation of airborne particles, or is it through eating food?

02:13:26.000 No, it's more from inhalation.

02:13:29.000 And the reason is quite simple.

02:13:31.000 That over evolutionary timescales, the gut has found ways of excluding a lot of these radionuclides.

02:13:38.000 Because there are a lot of natural radionuclides, like radium and uranium, Um, uh, thorium and, and daughters of these substances, which occur naturally.

02:13:47.000 And the gut seems to be quite clever at keeping a lot of this stuff out.

02:13:52.000 But if it's inhaled, it gets into the lungs.

02:13:54.000 It goes through the lungs into the, into the, uh...

02:13:57.000 Tracheobronchial lymph nodes and then the lymphatic system can take it anywhere and in particular where it takes it is to the female breast because that's quite close by and so these particles get into the female breast so we find high levels of breast cancer in people who live downwind or close to nuclear power stations for example.

02:14:16.000 I mean there's an awful lot of hoo-ha about childhood leukemia near nuclear power stations but nobody's been looking at adults.

02:14:22.000 Who live near nuclear power stations for the simple reason that the cancer registries refuse to release the data.

02:14:30.000 We've had to knock on doors in order to do these studies.

02:14:33.000 So which radiological isotopes are more likely to be airborne?

02:14:39.000 For example, downwind from Fukushima, is someone likely to inhale a particle of cesium?

02:14:46.000 Uranium.

02:14:46.000 No, no, no.

02:14:49.000 All of the effects in Iraq are a consequence of the use of uranium weapons. 0.95

02:14:54.000 I don't say depleted uranium weapons because we've actually measured this stuff and we found that since about 2003, since the second Gulf War, That they've been using ordinary uranium, or even slightly enriched uranium, which is something which is a bit odd, which we don't quite understand.

02:15:08.000 And it may well be, and I've suggested this, a consequence of a new type of weapon, which is a fusion weapon.

02:15:15.000 But I mean, whether that's true or not, certainly uranium is the thing that's causing the effects in Iraq.

02:15:23.000 And my feeling is probably uranium particles are what causes the effects downwind of nuclear power stations.

02:15:28.000 Because at the end of the day, uranium is what they run on.

02:15:31.000 Uranium is what they run on.

02:15:32.000 I mean, I've done a number of studies, for example, up in America, near Los Angeles, around the Santa Susana site there, the field laboratory, where people are all dying like flies all around there, and nobody seems to figure out how it works.

02:15:47.000 But if you look through the data, if you look through the environmental reports of Boeing and Rocketdyne, who are the people who run the operation, You find that there's enormous amounts of enriched uranium in the air filters.

02:15:58.000 But nobody looks at uranium because it's kind of thought to be natural and somehow therefore safe.

02:16:03.000 But of course the particularized version of it is certainly not natural and it's certainly not safe.

02:16:08.000 What isotopes of uranium are likely to be airborne and what kind of half-life are we talking about there?

02:16:14.000 Well, the half-life is 4.7 billion years.

02:16:19.000 Well, that's a little more than a human life span.

02:16:22.000 That's quite a long time, the uranium.

02:16:24.000 In fact, uranium is the problem that they have when they try to bury nuclear waste.

02:16:28.000 I mean, another study that I've done is to look at the Swedish proposals to build a nuclear waste site underneath the Baltic Sea.

02:16:41.000 Which is already the most radioactive sea in the world.

02:16:44.000 And by the time all of the other radionuclides like cesium and strontium and all the short-lived stuff has gone away, the uranium and the radium is still there.

02:16:51.000 Because those things have enormously long half-lives.

02:16:54.000 They have geological half-lives.

02:16:56.000 But, of course, the particles won't stay there forever.

02:16:58.000 The particles are produced when the weapons are used, and they go up in the air, and then they land in the desert, and they hang around for quite a long time, and my feeling is they still are there.

02:17:07.000 I was in Iraq in 2001.

02:17:10.000 I went there with Al Jazeera, a lot of measuring equipment and everything, and I found a lot of depleted uranium particles there from the first Gulf War, so that was like ten years later, yeah.

02:17:20.000 Well, we also see in the veterans who are around the DU weapons, they are exhibiting very high rates of cancer and I think you even mentioned... That's true, that's true. 0.95

02:17:31.000 Yes, I've done some studies.

02:17:33.000 I've been called in as an expert recently on a number of United Kingdom veterans who were deployed in the second Gulf War and the first Gulf War and they were basically cleaning out vehicles that had been struck by depleted uranium bullets.

02:17:47.000 And they've got lymphomas and they've got colon cancer too.

02:17:53.000 And there are two of them with colon cancer and the odds against that happening, I can tell you, at the age, because they're both 40, at that age the odds against both of them getting colon cancer is 1 in 780,000.

02:18:06.000 That's the lifetime odds.

02:18:08.000 So it's quite obviously the uranium that's caused the colon cancer.

02:18:11.000 But the government and the military, they just refuse to concede all of this stuff.

02:18:16.000 And it's impossible to do any research because the cancer registries won't release the data.

02:18:20.000 Right, right.

02:18:21.000 This is a global cover-up, but it's also easy to sweep under the rug because so many of the symptoms of radiological poisoning are, they can be diagnosed as something different, and the symptoms can take a long time to be diagnosable.

02:18:39.000 Well, that's the main problem.

02:18:40.000 It's like stabbing somebody and then they die 20 years later.

02:18:42.000 Right.

02:18:43.000 And so it's quite hard to do those sorts of cases.

02:18:45.000 But it's not, it's getting easier, I have to say.

02:18:48.000 The problem also, of course, is this.

02:18:52.000 That in the last 10 years, we've realized a lot more about the way in which radio, there's been a lot of research done, and this hasn't fed through into the people who regulate the limits and so on but anyway what what we found out is that radiation doesn't just give you cancer it gives you heart attacks it damages your children it it more or less increases the rate of just about every illness that there is so it's a kind of premature aging yeah like a stealth epidemic

02:19:20.000 Yeah, so if you're looking, I mean for instance, if you want to do a study and you look for increases in cancer, you won't only find increases in cancer and because of that you don't find as high an increase in cancer as you might predict.

02:19:33.000 And the reason is that people die of something else before they get cancer.

02:19:37.000 Cancer is an old age, it's something that increases exponentially with age.

02:19:41.000 We are going to take a quick break, but stay with us folks, we're interviewing Dr.

02:19:47.000 Chris Busby on radiation poisoning of our planet.

02:19:51.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

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02:24:00.000 We're continuing our interview with Dr. Chris Busby here on The Alex Jones Show.

02:24:21.000 This is Mike Adams filling in for Alex today, and we are focused on radiological poisoning.

02:24:27.000 Specifically, uranium is our focus in this part of the conversation.

02:24:32.000 But just before we go back to Dr. Busby, there is some breaking news that's being broadcast on the mainstream media right now.

02:24:38.000 Apparently some friends of the alleged Boston Marathon bombers are being arrested and charged with lying to the government.

02:24:46.000 So there you go.

02:24:48.000 If you lie to the government, I guess they had some fireworks or something that they threw away before the FBI showed up.

02:24:55.000 So, details are sketchy, but we'll see where that goes.

02:24:59.000 But God forbid anyone who lies to the government, because the government always tells us the truth, especially in the nuclear industry, right?

02:25:06.000 And this is our conversation with Dr. Busby, where, here's my question, it seems like the defense industry, or the weapons industry, let's call it, Has a very deeply vested interest in protecting its investment in nuclear products and also the nuclear power industry.

02:25:25.000 So you've got these two very powerful industries that want this truth to remain a secret, it seems.

02:25:30.000 And it seems like you're knocking heads with these two industries quite frequently.

02:25:36.000 Yes, that's right.

02:25:37.000 Actually, in the fifties is when it really got bad.

02:25:41.000 That's when it all started because they wanted to, as you say, they wanted to test nuclear weapons in the atmosphere and it was quickly becoming apparent that this was killing people.

02:25:53.000 So what they did was that they forced all of this information underground and by 1959 there was an agreement between The World Health Organization and the International Atomic Energy Agency, whereby all of the research into this, the health effects of radiation, of the type of radiation I'm talking about, was put into the hands of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

02:26:16.000 Now I also, and this still goes on, because I was in Brussels talking about the, we've made a petition, incidentally there is something that people can do about this.

02:26:25.000 So we have a website which we set up last year, called nuclearjustice.org.

02:26:31.000 We formed an International Committee for Nuclear Justice in Vilnius, Lithuania.

02:26:35.000 And so this is some... people can get in touch with us.

02:26:38.000 There are petitions that can be used based on human rights.

02:26:42.000 Anyway, my point is, I went to Brussels to make an intervention on behalf of the Green Group of the European Parliament.

02:26:51.000 And I was talking about this whole issue, and what I learned there was that the new radiation protection legislation which is going through, which I was asked to go and talk about, is going to be put in the hands of the people who, in the hands of the industry, rather than the hands of the Environment Committee, because they have these different committees in the European Union.

02:27:10.000 And they have a committee that's involved in environment and health, and they have another committee that's involved, or directorate, that's involved in looking after industry.

02:27:21.000 So it's the industry committee who's going to be dealing with the legislation relating to radiation.

02:27:25.000 And this is exactly like it happened in the 50s, where they gave the protection of human beings and the protection of the environment into the hands of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

02:27:35.000 Right, to turn it over to the very people who are the problem.

02:27:37.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:27:39.000 But you know, I mean, I was very interested earlier in your list of, and I quite went along with a lot of that stuff, you know, what I would call the Sovietization of the planet, actually. 0.91

02:27:50.000 Because although the Soviet Union has collapsed, all of the things that the Soviet Union went in for, all of this airbrushing of history and the teaching of nonsense and All the things that you talk about have now have now become mainstream in the United States and certainly in my country in England as well too. 0.51

02:27:50.000 Yeah. 0.51

02:28:08.000 So you really basically if you want to learn something you go to the internet and then you just have to kind of sift through all the crazy stuff.

02:28:15.000 But basically you get a much better idea of what's going on than if you listen to the news or if you look in the newspaper.

02:28:20.000 Well, I think that this nuclear industry, this is a classic example of where they are attempting to destroy actual knowledge, destroy history, and spoon-feed you a new narrative that is at odds with physical reality, or in this case, actual physics.

02:28:35.000 Yeah, well, I've thought a lot about this, and I've concluded Because you have to either think well they're just bad people or evil or something and you have to think how can they possibly go in for all of this nonsense?

02:28:49.000 So then you can say well they might have a lot of money, people give them money in brown envelopes and all this and there's probably a bit of that happens as well.

02:28:55.000 But my feeling is that it's a way of looking at the world and this way of looking at the world arrived in the last century with science itself and in some way science itself, especially physics actually, Physicists seem to be able to believe stuff that everybody thinks is manifest nonsense.

02:29:14.000 And they can somehow control the way in which the world works by saying, well look, we're much cleverer than you are and you have to listen to what we say because we can do mathematics and you can't. 0.94

02:29:24.000 And most of the people, like the politicians who are all stupid anyway, you know, or most of them, They're desperate to show that they're as clever as the physicists. 0.84

02:29:35.000 Stay with us, we've got to go to a quick break here, but stay with us and we'll have a long segment with you afterwards. 0.98

02:29:40.000 I want to get into this with you to talk about the scientific dictatorship, in a sense, where just exactly what you said, they're trying to shove this down our throats and it's not true.

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02:33:25.000 Alright, we're continuing our interview with Dr. Chris Busby, an expert on ionizing radiation, and he helped create the website nuclearjustice.org, and we have a long segment here with him.

02:33:44.000 Just before the break, Dr. Busby mentioned that there are some Let's say fundamental themes of conventional science that he believes are not legitimate, or I'm paraphrasing.

02:33:59.000 But I'd like to ask you about that, Dr. Busby.

02:34:01.000 What are the things about modern science that you think need to be questioned?

02:34:06.000 Well, I think the problem is that science became a very, very powerful machine from when it began, probably in about the 15th century.

02:34:17.000 And it was based on empirical evidence.

02:34:19.000 So what happened is that rather than just come out and say, this is so because the church teaches that it's so, let's have a look and see whether it works.

02:34:29.000 And so they do an experiment and the experiment would show whatever it showed.

02:34:33.000 And very often that would be That would be something that wasn't expected and they would have to re-jig the whole understanding of reality to fit in with experimental work.

02:34:44.000 And you remember Galileo.

02:34:45.000 Galileo was challenged by the Inquisition because he said that there were the moons of Jupiter and in the Bertolt Brecht Play of Galileo.

02:34:53.000 He actually shows the Inquisitors, through his telescope, the moons of Jupiter and they say, as I recall, they say, well this must be a very uncertain machine and we don't really believe in this machine if it shows something that cannot exist.

02:35:09.000 The point is that that's exactly the situation we have now.

02:35:12.000 We have, for example, many, many studies that show that there's an increase in childhood leukemia around nuclear sites.

02:35:20.000 But the nuclear, but the radiation risk organizations, the United Nations Scientific Committee, In the United States, the various committees there, NRC and so on, and the International Committee on Radiological Protection, which was based in Sweden, is now based in Canada.

02:35:39.000 These committees are controlling the understanding of the health effects of radiation, and they continue to act exactly like the Inquisition.

02:35:47.000 They say, well, these childhood leukemias cannot exist because we know that they cannot exist because our formulae say that they cannot exist.

02:35:55.000 And that's the situation we're in now.

02:35:56.000 That's exactly it.

02:35:58.000 I've talked about this as well.

02:36:00.000 The scientific method is predicated on the idea that you must assess all the available evidence and then sort it out.

02:36:08.000 You can't filter selectively the evidence that you don't like because it disagrees with your preconceived notion of what the theory is.

02:36:16.000 But that's what we see.

02:36:17.000 Well, there are two philosophical rules here.

02:36:20.000 There's the rules of induction and the rules of deduction.

02:36:22.000 So what they say is that they know how much cancer is caused by radiation on the basis of experiments that have been done on the survivors of the Hiroshima bomb.

02:36:31.000 Okay, and that was all external radiation, and it was a very big dose.

02:36:35.000 And therefore, on the basis of that theory, and this is a formula, this is an equation, okay?

02:36:40.000 Mathematics.

02:36:41.000 We're back to mathematics.

02:36:42.000 On the basis of this mathematical equation, It's impossible that these children near the nuclear sites could have their cancers as a consequence of radiation.

02:36:52.000 And the same thing happens with Fukushima.

02:36:54.000 We have the World Health Organization now came out with a big document recently that said that the effects of the Fukushima accident, because the doses were so small, are not even going to be measurable.

02:37:04.000 And in the middle of all this, people are having 40% increase in... No, 40% of the people who have the children tested have got thyroid nodules.

02:37:12.000 People are just falling down dead all over the place.

02:37:15.000 And there's lots of evidence that they're covering it all up.

02:37:18.000 And this is exactly like Galileo.

02:37:20.000 This is a failure of science itself.

02:37:23.000 In many ways I agree with you.

02:37:25.000 In many ways modern science has become the new dogmatic church that science originally fought against because we're supposed to be based on actual evidence.

02:37:35.000 I remember having a conversation recently with A physicist, just about the table of elements, and I asked about mercury and how toxic was mercury, and he spelled it out for me.

02:37:45.000 Oh, this is extremely toxic, a potent neurotoxin, toxic to biology at many, many different levels.

02:37:52.000 And then I asked him, I said, well, so what do you think about injecting children with trace amounts of mercury?

02:37:58.000 And he said, no, that's extremely dangerous, should never be done, it's not human.

02:38:02.000 I said, well, what about injecting a child with a vaccine?

02:38:05.000 And he said, oh, well, it's okay in that case.

02:38:07.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.

02:38:09.000 Well, you know, the problem, I mean, actually I have to blame Einstein for this.

02:38:14.000 Because if you go back far enough, what you find is that Victorian science was generally understood.

02:38:20.000 It was like common sense.

02:38:22.000 But then round about the 1920s, between 1905 when they came out with special relativity through to about 1930, The whole thing was turned on its head and suddenly we had to believe stuff that was manifestly impossible.

02:38:36.000 And the people who went to the top of the list who said these things were the physicists, the mathematical physicists.

02:38:41.000 And if you look in government now, if you look in the UK government, if you look in American government, you look all over the place.

02:38:47.000 Look in the European Union, you find that the people who are the advisors, the senior advisor to government, are always mathematical physicists.

02:38:53.000 And those are people who can believe virtually anything.

02:38:55.000 Now somebody should point out to them that they appear to have lost 95% of the universe as a result of their calculations, you know?

02:39:03.000 Exactly so!

02:39:04.000 We have to believe these guys when they tell us that these radiation effects are harmless, when in fact we see in front of our, in every study that we do, that people are dying all over the place.

02:39:15.000 It's terrible.

02:39:16.000 When they say they've discovered the God particle, but all it is is a statistical anomaly.

02:39:20.000 First of all, it's not a particle, and it's not God, and it's a statistical... They didn't really find something that you can look at.

02:39:30.000 It's not even that.

02:39:31.000 The point is, when they do these experiments, what they do is they don't actually see anything.

02:39:35.000 What they do is they have a huge computer program which analyzes all of the stuff that's going on inside this machine that they've got, where they're smashing things together at enormous energies, and then they apply all of the equations that they figured out long ago, are the right equations, and they come out with answers which may or may not be right, but maybe the equations are wrong in the first place.

02:39:55.000 That's the point.

02:39:56.000 It's all mathematical.

02:39:57.000 It's exactly like the analysis of the health effects of radiation, where it's a mathematical equation, it says it can't happen, so they say it's impossible.

02:40:05.000 And yet there's some dead person sitting in front, lying in front of them in the road.

02:40:08.000 And they say, well, this person cannot exist, just like Galileo and the Inquisition.

02:40:12.000 Anyway, we have to do something about it, you know.

02:40:15.000 We have to stop believing these physicists.

02:40:17.000 We have to start taking control of this whole area and getting hold of the information itself.

02:40:22.000 I mean, why is it that the cancer registries are allowed to refuse to release data about the levels of cancer around nuclear plants or around areas where there's radiation?

02:40:31.000 Why?

02:40:32.000 I mean, it must be...

02:40:34.000 A lot of vested interest.

02:40:36.000 Well, in addition to your site nuclearjustice.org, is there another website where people can stay up-to-date with your investigations?

02:40:42.000 Yes, yes, there is.

02:40:44.000 There are a couple of websites that they should look at.

02:40:47.000 One is the low-level radiation campaign website, which is llrc.org, low-level radiation campaign.

02:40:55.000 And if they want to look at the work I've done, they look at the Green Audit, so it's www.greenaudit.org.

02:41:02.000 So those two websites have most of the stuff that we are doing. 0.97

02:41:06.000 If they look on my Wikipedia entry, incidentally, they will find that I'm every sort of scurrilous, you know, idiot.

02:41:13.000 Because the nuclear industry have a whole team of people that spend their whole time cutting me down on the internet and putting up all sorts of, you know. 0.64

02:41:22.000 And I just don't have the time to deal with it all.

02:41:25.000 You know, I'd have to have a whole department of people just checking.

02:41:27.000 So my Wikipedia entry is a sort of battle of the psalms.

02:41:30.000 Wikipedia is largely discredited on anything that threatens corporate interests.

02:41:36.000 Yeah, teams of trolls work on that. 0.80

02:41:38.000 But I want to get back, because you mentioned the history of physics and the development of much of this knowledge base.

02:41:44.000 You know, if you look back to the early physicists who were...

02:41:48.000 Investigating radiation?

02:41:49.000 You know, even at the time, they said it wasn't dangerous and a lot of them died from cancer, like Curie and many others who were experimenting and even trying to isolate, up to that point, unknown elements in the table of elements.

02:42:04.000 They died from radiation poisoning.

02:42:07.000 Yes, and a lot of them burned their arms off and got cancer as a result of using those x-ray tubes and so on.

02:42:14.000 And somehow we're led to believe that everything is okay.

02:42:16.000 Anyway, the point is that if you look at the limits, the dose limits, if you go right back to that early time and look at the dose limits and watch them through the whole of the last century, you find they go down and down and down and down and down exponentially.

02:42:28.000 And eventually, in 1990 or so, they hit the one millisievert level, which is the legal limit today.

02:42:34.000 But the reason they don't go down any further, which of course they should do, The reason they don't go down any further is because the nuclear industry wouldn't be able to function and the military wouldn't be able to function if that went down any further.

02:42:45.000 But as I said before, you know, the important thing is not the actual radiation dose, it's where it's from, it's what it's from.

02:42:52.000 We have places in the world now which have become absolutely dangerous to live near and this is what nuclear justice is about.

02:42:59.000 It's to try and use human rights legislation to raise that issue. 0.69

02:43:03.000 Can you tell us some of those geographical locations?

02:43:07.000 Yes, yes.

02:43:09.000 It's places where radioactivity has accumulated.

02:43:12.000 So you've got quite a few of them in America.

02:43:14.000 You've got the Hanford site in Washington.

02:43:17.000 You've got Oak Ridge.

02:43:21.000 You've got certainly Los Angeles, up in northwestern Santa Susana, up in the Seamy Hills there.

02:43:28.000 That's an area which is massively contaminated with radioactivity from the rocket dime.

02:43:34.000 And there was an explosion there in 1959, I think it is, from the sodium reactor, which melted down and spewed stuff all over the place.

02:43:44.000 That's quite a dangerous place.

02:43:45.000 The Irish Sea and the Baltic Sea, yes.

02:43:49.000 Sorry to interrupt, but I want to understand, how do these radioactive particles get kicked up into the air?

02:43:55.000 Is it from wind?

02:43:56.000 Is it a farmer plowing a field?

02:43:57.000 How does it happen?

02:43:59.000 Well, all of those things.

02:44:01.000 But actually, if we were to go to, for instance, the Los Angeles one, it's caused by disturbing the soil.

02:44:08.000 So what they've been doing there since about 1995 to 2005, they were knocking down buildings and remediating the land and trucking a lot of this stuff out on trucks.

02:44:19.000 And of course it just generated vast amounts of dust.

02:44:22.000 Actually, farmers, for example, if you take farmers, the highest rates of leukemia and lymphoma in terms of occupations are from farmers, because of course they plough up the fields and that's got all the weapons fallout on them.

02:44:35.000 Then the other very interesting one, which is certainly going to affect people in Japan, is what's called sea-to-land transfer.

02:44:42.000 If you dump all this radionuclide stuff into the sea, what happens is it adheres to the surface, it adsorbs on the surface of clays and fine particles.

02:44:51.000 And so when the waves crash into the beach and you get those white horses, those bubbles turn inside out and they force this stuff up into the air and there's this phenomenon called sea-to-land transfer which is quite well described in the literature.

02:45:05.000 I mean people have measured plutonium by distance from the sea in the Irish Sea and basically people living within about one kilometer from the sea get a much higher level of cancer.

02:45:16.000 And I've done studies that show that, and that's why, because they inhale this stuff from the sea to land transfer, and that's going to affect people all along the east coast of Japan.

02:45:24.000 It certainly affects people in the Irish Sea, where Sellafield releases this stuff into the Irish Sea, and it will affect people in the Baltic Sea too.

02:45:31.000 Dr. Busby, is there a handheld radiation detection device that a consumer could use to determine whether such particles are airborne near them?

02:45:43.000 Not sensitive enough?

02:45:43.000 Not really, no.

02:45:45.000 No, because it's for the same reason that I said.

02:45:49.000 What the handheld radiation detector does, no matter how sensitive it is, is it measures dose.

02:45:55.000 It can only average over the size of the machine that's being used.

02:45:59.000 Right.

02:46:00.000 And so these little particles wouldn't have any effect on that.

02:46:03.000 I mean, there are ways in which you can deal with it, but they're a bit complicated.

02:46:07.000 You have to get sticky filters.

02:46:08.000 So you put up some sellotape on a piece of paper, and then it sticks to the sellotape, and then you can put something called... you can put a plastic on there called CR39, and then you can see the tracks when you... or you can put some photographic film.

02:46:22.000 As well.

02:46:23.000 And in fact, a colleague of mine in America, in the United States, looked at some of the dust from Fukushima and was able to image these particles quite easily.

02:46:35.000 Well, it seems critical, really, for especially people living near these areas that you identify as possibly having high levels of latent radioactive particles, to be able to have some kind of a device or something they can I agree with you, but basically there isn't anything.

02:46:54.000 I mean, all you can do is you can bulk this stuff.

02:46:57.000 So what you can do is you can look at vehicle air filters, for example, which is what I did in Fukushima.

02:47:03.000 I got a lot of Japanese people to send me the filters from their motorcars. 1.00

02:47:08.000 And then what we did is we measured the, in bulk, we measured the concentrations of material in those filters.

02:47:13.000 And one filter I got sent by a lady in central Tokyo.

02:47:16.000 So she was living in an apartment which was 300 meters from the Tokyo Tower.

02:47:22.000 And she sent me her air conditioning filter which was inside the room.

02:47:25.000 That she lived in.

02:47:26.000 It just circulated air inside the room.

02:47:26.000 So it was inside.

02:47:29.000 And there was about 120,000 becquerels per kilogram of cesium in that filter.

02:47:33.000 There was a lot of uranium-235, uranium-238.

02:47:36.000 There was lead-210, which nobody had detected.

02:47:40.000 Obviously, a lot of lead-210 was coming out of Fukushima.

02:47:43.000 So that was quite... And I put up a video.

02:47:45.000 I put up a video on YouTube about that.

02:47:47.000 It's quite a scary business, because this is Tokyo.

02:47:49.000 Population 36 million.

02:47:51.000 Yeah, and the really scary thing is that your lungs are the filter.

02:47:55.000 I mean, if you're walking around breathing in that area, you are accumulating all that in your lungs.

02:47:59.000 That's your whole point.

02:48:02.000 That's my point.

02:48:03.000 I mean, we can't take somebody's lung out and measure it, but we can certainly take a filter out of a car and measure it.

02:48:08.000 And so if the filter intercepts material as it gets sucked into the engine, we can have a fairly good idea of how fast the engine is turning and how much air goes through it and the efficiency of the filter and all that sort of stuff.

02:48:21.000 So how effective would an N95 mask be?

02:48:24.000 You know, the kind of mask that people use for flu pandemics and things.

02:48:27.000 Would those block?

02:48:28.000 What, you mean just those little monkey masks?

02:48:31.000 Those little white things? 1.00

02:48:32.000 No, they're useless. 0.99

02:48:33.000 That's what I think, too.

02:48:35.000 You have to have a proper aerosol mask, like the sort of thing that you would buy.

02:48:41.000 For working with dangerous aerosols.

02:48:43.000 Like something that seals around your face.

02:48:46.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:48:47.000 You'd have to use that.

02:48:48.000 And even that won't intercept some of these very small uranium particles that they're using, that are created in weaponization.

02:48:56.000 Those things are down in the 50 nanometer to 150 nanometer range, and they go straight through any of those things.

02:49:03.000 In fact, they go straight through the skin.

02:49:05.000 They go straight through the skin?

02:49:05.000 What?

02:49:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:49:08.000 Nanoparticles, which is like a big deal now.

02:49:11.000 Everybody's researching nanoparticles.

02:49:13.000 I mean, nanoparticles go straight through the skin.

02:49:15.000 That's how all these things make women look younger, you know? 0.99

02:49:21.000 They just put the paste on, it goes through the skin, it plumps the skin out and makes them look younger.

02:49:25.000 But are you saying that they're radioactive uranium particles that are nano-sized that can... Yes, yes.

02:49:30.000 Absolutely.

02:49:31.000 The Americans, when they were first developing this stuff, they did measurements at the, where is this, somewhere in, they have a base in America, I can't remember the name offhand anyway, so they did impact collections using various systems that measured the diameter of the particles.

02:49:50.000 So basically what you're saying is we're all screwed, is what you're saying.

02:49:53.000 We're all screwed unless we can Stop this pollution. 0.94

02:49:56.000 Unless we can stop these people using them.

02:49:59.000 This is why I say, well somebody, I mean I was asked by Russia today to contribute to some program and they said what's the most serious radiation or nuclear hazard in existence at the moment.

02:50:11.000 They were talking about the strategic arms limitation talks, you know, and whether Iran is going to drop a bomb on Iraq and on Israel.

02:50:19.000 But actually this has been going on for a very long time.

02:50:22.000 It already exists.

02:50:23.000 The most serious The biggest item in this whole area is the refusal of the international committees that legislate about exposures to concede that there is a huge problem.

02:50:35.000 Right.

02:50:36.000 Denial.

02:50:36.000 That's it.

02:50:38.000 Well, Dr. Busby, we're out of time, but I want to thank you for joining me today.

02:50:41.000 It's been a fascinating discussion.

02:50:42.000 Okay.

02:50:44.000 Okay.

02:50:45.000 Thank you.

02:50:45.000 We've got to go to break here, but folks, Dr. Busby's website is nuclearjustice.org, and thank you once again, Dr. Busby, for joining us.

02:50:54.000 Okay, thanks.

02:50:54.000 Bye.

02:50:55.000 We'll be back after this break, folks, with the conclusion of today's Alex Jones Show.

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02:54:15.000 We just interviewed Dr. Chris Busby, who had some frightening information that possibly these radioactive nanoparticles can penetrate your skin, and thus having a mask may not really help you.

02:54:31.000 So, great.

02:54:32.000 As I said in the last segment, I guess that means we're all screwed.

02:54:36.000 Unless we somehow manage to raise awareness on this, which Dr. Busby is attempting to do, and shut down the nuclear industry.

02:54:44.000 I did read that some fusion experiments are underway or being constructed and about to commence that would be a hot fusion energy generation that would make fission obsolete.

02:54:57.000 Fission is conventional nuclear power.

02:54:58.000 It would make that completely obsolete.

02:55:01.000 So there are possibly some solutions, but that could be many decades away.

02:55:06.000 I wouldn't bet on it.

02:55:08.000 And besides, you know, the government loves to have a nuclear industry because the side effect is weapons-grade plutonium and uranium, weapons-grade materials, basically.

02:55:18.000 But in the final few minutes of today's show, I wanted to go through some of the headlines that we failed to get to earlier, just to give you a sense of the total insanity that has now taken over our society.

02:55:31.000 So here we go.

02:55:32.000 We've got a company so far, a company that is telling its employees to get a tattoo of the company logo.

02:55:40.000 And then they will get raises.

02:55:42.000 A 15% pay raise for getting a tattoo of the company logo.

02:55:47.000 Yeah, like you won't regret that 10 years later.

02:55:50.000 Like a walking billboard of some now bankrupt corporation.

02:55:55.000 Three dead, 17 wounded in shootings just in Chicago in one night.

02:56:00.000 Yep, that's Chicago for you.

02:56:02.000 The gun-free zone where everybody gets shot.

02:56:08.000 Oh, here we go, athletes out of the closet! 0.61

02:56:11.000 I don't know why we're celebrating this NBA star who announced he's gay.

02:56:15.000 I don't know what the big deal is either way, what was the sexual orientation of these NBA players and NFL players, I just...

02:56:26.000 I mean, really?

02:56:27.000 Do we have to worship everybody who comes out of the closet now?

02:56:29.000 I mean, I guess the day is coming when we're going to have to... It's going to get so popular to be gay, that we're going to have to worship an athlete, a male athlete, that actually likes to sleep with women! 0.98

02:56:39.000 You know? 0.98

02:56:40.000 That's going to be an anomaly!

02:56:42.000 Oh my God!

02:56:42.000 You know?

02:56:43.000 Today, Jeffrey Jones came out of the closet.

02:56:45.000 He likes women! 0.76

02:56:46.000 My God!

02:56:47.000 So unpopular!

02:56:49.000 So bizarre!

02:56:50.000 What a freak of nature!

02:56:52.000 It's going to get that crazy, you know?

02:56:53.000 Just crazy.

02:56:54.000 Firstly, I don't care.

02:56:57.000 I'm a libertarian.

02:56:58.000 Do what you want, just don't push it on me, okay?

02:57:00.000 Bloomberg murder rate comments, he said, were sad and inappropriate for public officials to tout their crime-fighting efforts by highlighting other cities' murder rates.

02:57:12.000 In other words, he's saying you're not supposed to talk about the murder rate in Chicago or New York, especially New York.

02:57:19.000 Being that it's Bloomberg.

02:57:21.000 Eating disorders, orthorexia, are on the rise.

02:57:25.000 And by the way, they consider it an eating disorder if you're into nutrition.

02:57:28.000 Yeah.

02:57:29.000 If you read ingredients labels, that's a disorder.

02:57:32.000 You might have a psychiatric disorder because you read ingredients labels because you don't want to consume, you know, aspartame or MSG.

02:57:39.000 How about some GPS tags for dementia patients? 0.99

02:57:43.000 Let's track Granny Before we kill her with the death panels. 1.00

02:57:48.000 That way we can find her when it's time for the death panel. 0.97

02:57:51.000 GPS tags for your parents and grandparents.

02:57:55.000 How's that?

02:57:56.000 Airline employees caught abusing security badges and letting their family members through security.

02:58:02.000 How about you just bypass security?

02:58:04.000 I got a badge!

02:58:05.000 I work for the TSA!

02:58:07.000 I spend half my time molesting little children, and the other half letting my family members through security without going through the checkpoint.

02:58:13.000 Ah! 0.70

02:58:14.000 Two hands! 0.97

02:58:15.000 One hand for the... No, I'm not going there! 1.00

02:58:18.000 TSA, you suck! 1.00

02:58:20.000 You are evil! 1.00

02:58:21.000 Evil people! 1.00

02:58:23.000 All right.

02:58:23.000 Enough said.

02:58:24.000 I enjoyed the show today.

02:58:26.000 Thanks for having me on, Alex.

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