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00:00:01.000 big brother mainstream media government cover-ups You want answers?

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00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 It's not quite Alex Jones this Friday.

00:00:30.000 I am your guest host, Holland Vanden Heuwenhoff.

00:00:33.000 I'd like to thank Alex for having me on as his guest host today.

00:00:36.000 It's my pleasure.

00:00:38.000 I drove down here to Austin from Oklahoma City yesterday in order to host the show.

00:00:44.000 It's been a while.

00:00:45.000 It's been several months since I first had the opportunity to guest host the Alex Jones Show and it's always a lot of fun.

00:00:51.000 And I'm looking forward to a good time today.

00:00:54.000 Today we're going to be talking a lot about Benghazi.

00:00:57.000 That is in the news.

00:00:58.000 And what they're talking about in the mainstream media It's not exactly what occurred at Benghazi, what we need to be talking about regarding Benghazi.

00:01:06.000 So we'll be talking about that a lot and we'll also be taking your calls.

00:01:10.000 I believe Friday is First Time Friday or First Caller Friday, so we'll be taking your calls later.

00:01:16.000 I'm really looking forward to engaging Alex's audience one-on-one and seeing what they think about my performance here.

00:01:23.000 Anyways, of course, my name is Holland van den Nieuwenhoff.

00:01:27.000 I have been on this show a couple of times, a number of times over the past couple of years, mainly, of course, regards to the work I've done on A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City, 1995.

00:01:41.000 That documentary is, of course, available in the Info Shop, and it's the expose of the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:01:51.000 Oklahoma City by a noble lie.

00:01:53.000 Oklahoma City 1995 is the correct title.

00:01:57.000 And we spent a number of years compiling that information and in doing so developed our own little viewpoint on false flag attacks and talking to people on the inside.

00:02:09.000 As I have in my associates in research and writing, we have talked to some of the main players involved in these operations.

00:02:16.000 And we've come to a realization of how these operations are executed on the ground.

00:02:23.000 So using that lens I'll be applying it to current events and what may have happened or not in Benghazi and of course with the Boston bombing of which InfoWars has been on the tip of the spear.

00:02:36.000 Literally breaking that story wide open something Alex and I have been talking about for a while now is the evolving curve of the information war.

00:02:45.000 Not only are we unraveling these attacks immediately after they occur, we are unraveling them as the official script is being laid out.

00:02:54.000 We are now actually dictating terms to the elite regarding the narrative they want to give to the American people.

00:03:01.000 That was a battle, what happened after the Boston bombing, an info battle, and guess who won?

00:03:07.000 We did.

00:03:07.000 The truth seekers.

00:03:08.000 Because truth is on our side.

00:03:10.000 We don't have to make anything up.

00:03:12.000 We don't have to remember our lies.

00:03:13.000 We simply have to tell the truth.

00:03:16.000 So that was a tremendous victory.

00:03:18.000 Historical victory.

00:03:18.000 And hopefully one that will dictate the course of future actions.

00:03:23.000 Of course, if you want to check out A Noble Lie, go to the Info Shop.

00:03:28.000 It's a two-hour documentary about the Columbus City bombing.

00:03:30.000 And learning about that, it's not just learning about ancient history.

00:03:34.000 First of all, some of the same players are still involved right now.

00:03:38.000 Of course, Eric Holder being the primary one.

00:03:40.000 He's now Attorney General of the United States.

00:03:42.000 He was responsible, initiated and supervised Operation Fast and Furious, and has taken, I'm sure, a hand in many of the false-like attacks that have occurred since that one fell apart.

00:03:54.000 Eric Holder, back in the late 1990s, was put in charge of the investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:04:02.000 At the behest of the federal government for the Department of Justice and obviously we saw where that direction took us and how Eric Holder made his bones covering up for the elite in the very beginning of his career in government.

00:04:16.000 I'm sure he had already been vetted before that but he definitely made his bones after the Oakland City bombing specifically And covering up the torture murder of Kenneth Trentadue, who was a prisoner in federal custody, mistaken for John Doe No.

00:04:31.000 2 by the FBI, and tortured to death.

00:04:33.000 Eric Holder supervised that cover-up.

00:04:36.000 That's who we're dealing with, people.

00:04:38.000 Anyways, I thank you for joining me this Friday.

00:04:40.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

00:04:42.000 I am Holland van der Neuenhoff, and we will be right back.

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00:08:11.000 It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.

00:08:19.000 Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.

00:08:23.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:08:26.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:08:32.000 I'm your host, Holland van den Oorenhoff.

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00:08:44.000 I'd like to comment on that.

00:08:45.000 You know, I've come up to the info operation here in Austin a couple of times, and I doubt there's another talk show host in the world who's employing, you know, as several dozen people as Alex is.

00:08:58.000 I don't even know what the number is.

00:09:00.000 But every single one of these people, you know, they are relying upon the support of the community, which is supporting Alex in his endeavors to expose the truth.

00:09:09.000 So that is why your support is important, to keep us going, to pay the bills, literally, of the operation so we can continue to spread the word and continue to be a thorn in the side of the globalist elite.

00:09:25.000 What Dan Bodondi did in Boston when he shut down a press conference of the governor, the entire world was watching that press conference and immediately after when he mentioned a false flag attack, guess what the world did?

00:09:37.000 When they shut down that press conference, he went on Google, they went on Google, and they started looking up false flag attack.

00:09:43.000 That was people across the world who saw that endeavor waking up.

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00:09:52.000 Today, like I said, we'll be taking callers later on, but I'd like to get into a little of what Benghazi is going on there, the implications, and compare Benghazi perhaps to the most recent terrorist attack that has struck this country, the Boston bombings.

00:10:07.000 When you look at Benghazi, four Americans killed, including a U.S.

00:10:12.000 Ambassador, that compound under attack for hours.

00:10:16.000 For those of you unaware of my background, I served the United States Marine Corps in the infantry.

00:10:21.000 Not long after the Benghazi attacks occurred, I received a call on my own show, Radio Free Oklahoma on the Logos Radio Network, which is on Monday evenings, and it was a former Marine himself.

00:10:32.000 I did not know him, but he was calling in.

00:10:33.000 He had worked security.

00:10:36.000 Embassy security for the Ambassador Chris Stevens in Jerusalem.

00:10:40.000 And he expressed confusion, amazement that there was no military relief while the embassy in Benghazi was under attack.

00:10:50.000 Because I had brought that up on air.

00:10:51.000 I was like, I served in the Marines.

00:10:53.000 I know how embassy security operations work.

00:10:55.000 I have many friends who serve in that capacity in the fast company anti-terrorist team who respond to attacks on embassies.

00:11:03.000 And also embassy guards themselves.

00:11:05.000 And I can tell you this, that had that been a legitimate affair, a simple if the crowd was simply mad because of some YouTube video that was produced in California several months before, There would have been a military response literally within minutes.

00:11:25.000 Benghazi is right on the coast of Libya.

00:11:27.000 There is a carrier group sitting in the Mediterranean.

00:11:31.000 We have bases all over the Middle East, all over Israel, all over the region, in Italy, across the water.

00:11:39.000 Had that been a legitimate affair, I guarantee within minutes there would have been helicopters circling over that embassy, with the Marines boiling out, armed to the teeth.

00:11:51.000 That's not what we saw.

00:11:52.000 What we saw was the embassy for the United States, the most powerful empire in recorded history, under attack for four hours by 60 members of a so-called mob, with no relief in sight.

00:12:08.000 One of the tell-tale signs of an inside job, or that the fix is in, is the lack of military or security response when normally there would be.

00:12:19.000 And when an ambassador for the United States is under attack for four hours, there should have been massive military response.

00:12:28.000 And there was zero, which tells you someone gave a stand-down order, someone wanted those people to die.

00:12:35.000 The information coming out of Benghazi is very interesting.

00:12:38.000 It turns out that, of course, there was a weapons pipeline being run out of Benghazi.

00:12:42.000 Those weapons that were used in the Libyan so-called revolution were now being shipped over to Syria, where they're being used now in Syria to fulfill our current foreign policy objectives there.

00:12:53.000 Perhaps the attack had something to do with that.

00:12:55.000 There also has been conjecture, informed conjecture, that the Benghazi affair was supposed to be a It was actually a public relations ploy, which turned into a fiasco, because apparently the thing is, that theory is that they were going to pull off kidnapping the ambassador.

00:13:18.000 And then the Obama administration will pull off the master foreign policy coup of recovering the ambassador.

00:13:24.000 I don't know if that's true or not, but the point I want to make is, is when you come up with these grandiose false flag attacks on paper and you try to execute them on the ground, that's two very different things.

00:13:35.000 What they taught us in the Marines, that a plan never survives the first contact with the enemy, and that's usually true. 1.00

00:13:40.000 And with these false flag attacks, for the most part, the covert arm of U.S.

00:13:45.000 intelligence can rely upon the mainstream media to cover their tracks.

00:13:50.000 It's not like when people criticize so-called conspiratorial thinking, or what I like to call the counter-narrative, the argument often is, well, you know, the government is so incompetent they can never pull this off.

00:14:02.000 Well, you know what?

00:14:03.000 They are incompetent and they can't pull this off. 0.97

00:14:05.000 They mess up left and right. 0.98

00:14:06.000 I see it left and right.

00:14:08.000 But they can rely upon the mainstream media to not connect these dots.

00:14:13.000 Even though many of these anomalous facts may be reported at one time or another, it's never packaged for mass consumption when it's time to feed the story to the public.

00:14:22.000 It's never put into the official narrative.

00:14:25.000 And so that's what we're seeing with Benghazi.

00:14:28.000 We're seeing the mainstream media basically complicit with the administration in what appears to be a horribly botched operation.

00:14:37.000 In the light of the Boston bombings, I'm beginning to think that their learning curve is nowhere near the information revolution's learning curve.

00:14:47.000 They seem to not be learning their lessons.

00:14:49.000 What we saw in Benghazi, compared to Boston, was there are several dichotomous facts.

00:14:57.000 One, of course, President Obama hesitated early on to label what happened in Benghazi an act of terrorism.

00:15:04.000 When by definition any stretch of the word it actually is terrorism when you have a Crowd that's mad for whatever reason storming an embassy I mean that's happened before in American history, and it was called terrorism then why is it not terrorism now?

00:15:20.000 With the Boston bombings you had the the initial manhunt of course which was botched and they later settled on to the two Chechen brothers and But you saw a manhunt for specific individuals.

00:15:33.000 In the case of Benghazi, there is no talk of bringing the perpetrators to justice.

00:15:37.000 None at all.

00:15:38.000 The Obama administration is not talking about bringing the attackers of Ambassador Stevens into court, or bringing them to Guantanamo, or anything.

00:15:47.000 There is no, it's not even on the table to seek justice for Benghazi.

00:15:51.000 Because even trying to open up that can of worms and let people to learn even more about it might lead to that story blowing wide open and what actually happened.

00:16:01.000 Now the Congressional Republicans right now are digging into Benghazi.

00:16:05.000 It's probably not for truly altruistic reasons.

00:16:08.000 We can be sure that party politics has a reason to play, but we can utilize this to our advantage and find out what they are finding out about Benghazi.

00:16:17.000 Now, I don't know if they're going to take it all the way.

00:16:20.000 Probably not.

00:16:21.000 Usually these investigations by partisan politicians do not take the investigations all the way where they need to go.

00:16:29.000 But, we can still discover information, and the Republicans right now are on it.

00:16:33.000 As much as the media is trying to downplay Benghazi and act like it's ancient history, in many ways they're trying to say it is.

00:16:40.000 But it's not, because it is the current administration, and it deals with what is happening in the Middle East, and what exactly were they doing in Libya?

00:16:50.000 Now, the truth on this event will come out.

00:16:53.000 Eventually, we live in the age of information.

00:16:55.000 There are no more secrets.

00:16:56.000 All mysteries are revealed.

00:16:59.000 Um, but are we going to be able to connect the dots on the information and make positive choices?

00:17:05.000 Or are the American people going to forget about the case by the time the truth comes out?

00:17:08.000 Because that's usually how it is.

00:17:10.000 By the time the truth comes out, the case is forgotten.

00:17:12.000 There have been 9 or 12 other more interesting things happening in the news, at least the news playing up these things.

00:17:19.000 To distract people away from what is really going on.

00:17:22.000 By the time we discover what really happened in Benghazi, we will have moved on to nine different scandals.

00:17:28.000 And that is their game plan at least.

00:17:30.000 And it will not impact what is going on.

00:17:34.000 But the information revolution is not just about revealing information, reporting information.

00:17:39.000 It's about acting on information, using that information to affect our choices.

00:17:44.000 And if we act on the information that the administration lied about Benghazi, is lying about everything else, is lying about the Boston bombing.

00:17:53.000 And if this partisan effort, if it is mainly partisan, I'm going to give the Republicans the benefit of the doubt on this because they are uncovering some good stuff.

00:18:00.000 If they can take this investigation to where it needs to go, because where it needs to go, frankly, I mean, I know where it needs to go.

00:18:08.000 But where it needs to go for right now is the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, resigning or being tried for treason. 0.98

00:18:16.000 Because she is ultimately responsible for what happened to her ambassador, to her embassy, on her watch.

00:18:23.000 Her signature's on the papers, pulling down security from the Benghazi embassy.

00:18:28.000 There was no good reason for that.

00:18:30.000 When Al-Qaeda is flying the black flag of Al-Qaeda over whole towns in Libya, why would you be decreasing security at your embassy?

00:18:40.000 There is no good reason for that.

00:18:42.000 That was before the age of sequester.

00:18:45.000 And the budget certainly allowed.

00:18:47.000 In fact, there were special forces officers saying that they offered to supplement State Department security of the embassy facilities there, an offer which was turned down.

00:18:59.000 They actually turned down offers.

00:19:01.000 Of assistance for security because obviously they were planning to breach that security at Benghazi and pull up some kind of public relations stunt that obviously went very wrong.

00:19:14.000 Once again, we're not saying the government is all powerful and they control everything.

00:19:17.000 They try to.

00:19:18.000 They try to.

00:19:19.000 And they can rely upon the mainstream media to not hold them accountable.

00:19:23.000 They mess up all the time.

00:19:25.000 They messed up this.

00:19:26.000 They messed up Boston.

00:19:27.000 And you know what?

00:19:28.000 The more mistakes they make, Better for us, because they expose themselves.

00:19:33.000 Anyways, I am Holland van den Nieuwenhoff, a guest hosting the Alex Jones Show this Friday.

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00:24:19.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:24:23.000 I am not Alex Jones.

00:24:24.000 I am guest hosting today, May 10th, this Friday.

00:24:27.000 My name is Holland van den Nieuwenhoff.

00:24:30.000 I am the writer and producer for the film documentary, A Noble Lie, which you can get at the InfoWars store at Noble Lie, Oklahoma City, 1995.

00:24:40.000 The definitive expose of the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:24:43.000 If you're unfamiliar with that work, let me assure you that our sources, our first-hand sources, our witnesses in the film are police officers, victims, family members, survivors, investigators, people who are directly involved with what happened in Oklahoma City and the things they saw were at a direct variance with the official narrative being dictated by the government and the mainstream media.

00:25:08.000 This is a theme seen time and time again.

00:25:10.000 People on the ground, first responders, seeing things that are directly contradicting what the government is saying.

00:25:17.000 Now in Benghazi, we're seeing the same thing.

00:25:19.000 We have Gregory Hicks, the number two man in Libya.

00:25:23.000 In fact, when Chris Stevens, the ambassador, was killed in the Benghazi affair, Hicks became the number one man in Libya.

00:25:30.000 His questions, his testimony about questioning what he was seeing regarding security, what the official narrative was, he started questioning the official narrative of the Benghazi attacks.

00:25:41.000 And for that, he was demoted, made a desk officer after being a, you know, a service officer for 22 years.

00:25:48.000 And in his own words, he was basically, they let him know that his line of questioning was unwelcome.

00:25:55.000 Now if we are to expect a full and open inquiry into what happened in Benghazi, what we're seeing is the classic precursor to persecuting whistleblowers.

00:26:06.000 And of course the Obama administration, contrary once again to its word and to its campaign promises, has been probably, at least in modern history, The most energetic in prosecuting whistleblowers who work for the government, even more so than President Bush.

00:26:28.000 And, you know, all of the liberal sentiment behind the Obama administration, I can even respect genuine liberals who are perhaps are collectivists and believe in socialism.

00:26:39.000 If you actually believe that, I can respect that viewpoint.

00:26:43.000 But if you support the Obama administration, I now know that you don't even mean what you say.

00:26:49.000 The Obama administration is not even liberal or progressive, or it's not even socialist. 0.96

00:26:54.000 It's fascist. 0.79

00:26:54.000 It's a warmongering extension of the corporate regime. 0.79

00:26:59.000 And he's basically, like I said, replicating the first two terms of Bush.

00:27:05.000 And all the celebrities and rock stars out there who are still supporting the Obama administration, look at what is happening.

00:27:10.000 Compared to what is happening with this administration, the actions that they are doing with your ideals and with your sentiment, and if you cannot reconcile the two, one or the other needs to go.

00:27:18.000 You can't have both.

00:27:20.000 Regarding Benghazi, we're seeing the lies left and right.

00:27:24.000 I'm opening up the phones right now.

00:27:26.000 The phone number is 1-800-259-9231.

00:27:27.000 I repeat, 1-800-259-9231.

00:27:27.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:27:31.000 I repeat, 800-259-9231.

00:27:36.000 Please call in and we will engage the audience.

00:27:39.000 Now, regarding Benghazi, if you go back to the beginning, you remember that they blamed it on a supposed YouTube video.

00:27:46.000 And for that reason, this crowd in this one location in Benghazi, the only location in the world where people were getting mad about this video, they just happened to attack the embassy and kill the ambassador.

00:27:56.000 Now, of course, I'm a filmmaker myself, I work in film, so when I looked at the so-called YouTube video, the Benghazi video, I don't even know what the title is, that supposedly inflamed the crowd, that caused these attacks, within about two minutes I realized, this is not a film.

00:28:13.000 This is not even, there was no way someone was trying to sell this to anyone for investment.

00:28:17.000 This literally is a PR op.

00:28:20.000 I can tell by looking at it.

00:28:21.000 That is not a product that anyone was trying to take seriously.

00:28:26.000 And surely not the crowd in Benghazi.

00:28:29.000 The film, or the so-called film, the video, is basically unwatchable.

00:28:34.000 And it makes no sense.

00:28:36.000 And that is not why the crowd at Benghazi decided to attack that embassy.

00:28:40.000 That is a cover story.

00:28:42.000 And a very weak cover story.

00:28:43.000 And I mentioned before that, of course, the Obama administration was not, at first was reluctant to regard the Benghazi attacks as terrorism.

00:28:53.000 Why is that?

00:28:54.000 Because they don't want the anti-terrorism apparatus that they have helped build up inflicted upon themselves and asking questions, of course.

00:29:03.000 It looks like we got a caller and like I said we are opening up the phone lines 800-259-9231.

00:29:08.000 Call in and we will discuss your topic or your question.

00:29:16.000 So let's go to Mark from Texas.

00:29:18.000 Hello Mark, welcome to InfoWars.

00:29:23.000 Hey Mark, we're getting ready to go to break in about 10 seconds.

00:29:27.000 Speaking to you, I just ordered your film online, I thought.

00:29:31.000 Excellent.

00:29:32.000 Well, thank you, Mark.

00:29:33.000 Welcome to the show.

00:29:33.000 Yes, sir.

00:29:35.000 Hey, Mark, we're getting ready to go to break in about 10 seconds.

00:29:38.000 Can you hold on to the other side and we can continue the conversation?

00:29:41.000 Sure, you bet.

00:29:44.000 Well, thank you for calling in.

00:29:45.000 Like you're listening to the Alex Jones Show, I am the guest host, Holland Vanden Oorenhoff.

00:29:49.000 We will be right back after these messages.

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00:33:00.000 Big Brother.

00:33:18.000 Mainstream media.

00:33:20.000 Government cover-ups.

00:33:21.000 You want answers?

00:33:23.000 Well, so does he.

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00:33:28.000 Hey, you White House.

00:33:36.000 I'm not you.

00:33:39.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:50.000 I'm your host, Holland Vanden Heuvel.

00:33:52.000 This is May 10th, Friday.

00:33:55.000 Looks like we're going to go back to our caller, Mark from Texas.

00:33:57.000 Hello, Mark.

00:33:58.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

00:34:00.000 You were saying that you had purchased a copy of A Noble Lie.

00:34:04.000 Is there anything else?

00:34:06.000 Yes, sir.

00:34:07.000 What bothers me is nobody's even ever heard of this.

00:34:10.000 And I have passed it around.

00:34:13.000 I even sent it to another talk show.

00:34:15.000 I don't know if you ever heard of the Lynn Willey talk show here in Texas.

00:34:19.000 I guess not.

00:34:22.000 And because I want people to, you know, to understand that this stuff is real.

00:34:27.000 I didn't used to believe this stuff.

00:34:28.000 I used to think, ah, it's all nutcases, conspiracy theories.

00:34:32.000 No.

00:34:33.000 And if, because I tell people, look, you can Google police officer Donald Browning.

00:34:39.000 You can Google the late, murdered by the way, uh, Officer Terrence Yakey.

00:34:46.000 And also recently the late, um, What's his name?

00:34:50.000 Heidelberg?

00:34:50.000 Hoppy Heidelberg?

00:34:51.000 Hoppy Heidelberg, yes, of course, who passed last year also.

00:34:54.000 I'm sorry, we lost him recently.

00:34:56.000 You can Google those things and you can see.

00:34:58.000 These are not fly-by-night witnesses.

00:35:03.000 These are people who really were there and seeing what happened or were personally threatened.

00:35:08.000 It was Hoppy and of course, Police Officer Browning.

00:35:13.000 Like I said earlier in the show, we were talking to the actual people involved in these events.

00:35:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:19.000 Police officers who had their lives threatened by FBI agents.

00:35:23.000 Don Browning was on the Infowars show not long after release, talking about the fact that in police headquarters, Don Browning, an Oakland City police officer, one of the first responders who helped save lives.

00:35:34.000 Yes, he was confronted by an FBI agent who told him that he and his wife might lose their lives if he continued to ask questions.

00:35:43.000 That is the caliber of people we are dealing with.

00:35:46.000 We are dealing with simple thugs who threaten the lives of innocent people if you ask questions.

00:35:52.000 We're seeing that being played out here also in Benghazi, where people who ask questions are having at least their careers threatened now, and if they keep on asking, even more will get threatened.

00:36:02.000 Mark, is there anything else?

00:36:04.000 Yeah, and I also tell him, by the way, that Officer Browning, forget just the fact he's a police officer, but he's a fact that he's a Vietnam vet, Marine Vietnam vet, actually a rifleman in Vietnam.

00:36:15.000 So, you know, and I try to tell people, if Oklahoma was a false flag, everything that's going on now, the shooting at Newtown, the shooting in Colorado, in Aurora, Colorado, and other shootings, and including what happened in Boston, you can believe is a good chance The government is behind it.

00:36:35.000 Stop admiring the FBI.

00:36:36.000 The FBI has become a criminal organization as is the CIA.

00:36:40.000 It's unfortunate, but this is what's happening.

00:36:43.000 And by the way, did you ever hear of William Cooper?

00:36:45.000 Yes, I have.

00:36:48.000 I'm reading a book right now called Behold a Pale Horse.

00:36:53.000 The famous book by William Cooper, yes.

00:36:55.000 And in it, he writes, this is, he wrote this book in 1990 now.

00:37:02.000 He predicted a lot of the shootings and stuff.

00:37:04.000 As a matter of fact, he said they already happened, and blamed it on CIA mind control, including using drugs such as Prozac.

00:37:10.000 If you want, I can read you page 225.

00:37:11.000 Oh, that's all right.

00:37:13.000 I've actually read the book, and I'm sure many of our listeners have, but they can definitely look that up.

00:37:17.000 It's valuable to reference that.

00:37:19.000 I thank you, Mark, for calling in.

00:37:22.000 Thank you very much and also for your purchase of the Noble Eye and of course spread that around and this is something that I will relate to the audience and time and time again this is what I was striving for with the Noble Eye.

00:37:33.000 What we were striving for was for that product to be a wake-up tool and I have had more than one person come to me and tell me that they were able to wake up stubborn members of their family or their friends Who were unable to grasp a lot of the information, but seeing it laid out in the way it was in A Noble Lie allowed them to make the conclusions that can only be gotten from a sober examination of the evidence.

00:37:58.000 So it does serve as a valuable wake-up tool, and in that I am glad.

00:38:01.000 So I thank you, Mark, for checking out A Noble Lie, for spreading the word, and for calling in.

00:38:07.000 Well, thank you for calling in, Mark.

00:38:07.000 Excellent.

00:38:09.000 We have a number of callers on the line.

00:38:10.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:38:13.000 Like I said, I thank you, Mark, for bringing up that topic.

00:38:15.000 When you verify that at least one event in American history, like the Oklahoma City bombing, was indeed a false flag attack, that did happen.

00:38:25.000 And then you ascertain the fact that no one was held accountable, no one in government was fired, no one was held accountable for treason, for mass murder of their own citizens, for perpetuating that attack.

00:38:36.000 And I'd like to Clarify some things.

00:38:38.000 When I say inside job, that it was an inside job, it was.

00:38:42.000 But it's not that every street agent on the scene is involved in a cover-up of the fact that a criminal arm of the government blew up its own facility or blew up its own people to affect a political agenda.

00:38:53.000 It's not.

00:38:54.000 And that the people on the ground, and that's what you see in the use of these military drills, like in Boston, You saw the men in the black hoodies and the khaki tactical pants and the desert boots with the same backpack as the Chechen suspects. 0.89

00:39:10.000 Obviously there was a military drill, police drill in effect at the time.

00:39:16.000 Now the purpose of the drill, which is the common denominator many times for these false flag attacks, is twofold.

00:39:23.000 It allows the movement of assets into place.

00:39:26.000 It provides a plausible deniability and security for those assets if they're moved into place.

00:39:30.000 Oh, we're just part of an exercise or a drill.

00:39:34.000 After the fact, after it goes live, after it blows up, after there are casualties on the ground that they weren't expecting, the players were not expecting, the drill effectuates the cover-up because now all the people involved in what they initially thought was a legitimate law enforcement or military operation are now complicit in mass murder.

00:39:55.000 And they're going to keep their mouth shut.

00:39:56.000 And that's even if they care to report it.

00:39:59.000 For the most part, all the people on the ground are covering up what they expect and what they think is simply a massive foul-up by their agency, which of course happens time and time again.

00:40:09.000 And let's not leave it out of the purview of government employees to cover up their own mistakes.

00:40:14.000 So the drill is twofold, to move the assets into place and to help effectuate the cover-up Actors the fact by letting all the law enforcement officers or military officers involved let them know Oh, by the way, this is part of an operation, but it's top secret and you can't talk about it Of course, I'm not making that up.

00:40:30.000 We saw the same thing after the Oklahoma City bombing something that's not in a noble lie was the fact that several police officers on the scene who first responded were sequestered and Uh, brought together separately by FBI agents and told that there was an undercover operation going on involving the Ryder truck, involving what happened in Oklahoma City, and for security reasons, ongoing undercover operation, you cannot talk about it.

00:40:57.000 That is the security at work.

00:41:00.000 They use that cover story time and time again.

00:41:02.000 And the one thing I have delineated from my study of government false flag attacks is that they will not vary the formula if it's successful.

00:41:10.000 There's no reason for them to.

00:41:13.000 If it works, they will keep on doing it.

00:41:15.000 Almost to where it loses, I'm sorry to put it this way, but it loses its originality.

00:41:20.000 They literally use the same standard operating procedure every time.

00:41:25.000 Because it works.

00:41:27.000 Well, it's going to keep on working until we hold them accountable.

00:41:29.000 Until we put enough pressure on the mainstream media to keep on asking those questions that are going to make the government uncomfortable.

00:41:36.000 And until that happens, they're going to continue doing things the same way.

00:41:40.000 But I think for Boston, they may have to change their methods of operation because Boston was very sloppy.

00:41:48.000 Benghazi was very sloppy.

00:41:49.000 Maybe they're losing their edge because they're not competing with the truth anymore because they can rely upon the media to just cover everything up.

00:41:56.000 But they're not very good these days.

00:41:56.000 I don't know.

00:41:58.000 And I don't want it to be that way, but it is.

00:42:01.000 And viewing the lens of Benghazi and the Boston bombings through what I've discovered first-hand, with the Oklahoma City bombing is amazing.

00:42:09.000 I've interviewed first-hand players in the Oklahoma City bombing, members who were involved with the neo-Nazi right back in the mid-90s.

00:42:20.000 One of those men, Johnny Bangerter, informed me that prior to the Oklahoma City bombing, he was in the Las Vegas area at the time.

00:42:28.000 He was being approached by an informant who was asking him to bomb a federal building with ammonium nitrate and Tovex boosters.

00:42:38.000 That does sound familiar, because that's exactly what played out several months later, on April 19th, 1995, in Oklahoma City.

00:42:47.000 This guy, who was approaching Johnny Bangerter, pitching a script, literally pitching a script, which later played out.

00:42:53.000 Now, the spooky thing about this, this man who was pitching the script was an ATF informant. 0.96

00:43:00.000 So what we have is direct proof of the ATF using their informants, selling the OKC script around the country to various neo-Nazi groups, until someone obviously was foolish enough to take the bait.

00:43:13.000 So you see the fact that they are approaching people before these attacks, trying to get them to effectuate these attacks.

00:43:21.000 We've seen this in the war on terror.

00:43:23.000 Time and time again with the so-called Christmas tree bomber, another incident that we're almost forgotten now because of these larger events.

00:43:32.000 And what you see the SOP is the FBI sends an informer to approach some confused kid who's working at McDonald's.

00:43:38.000 And he talks to him over some so-called jihadi website, which of course is a CIA front.

00:43:44.000 And this young kid is talking to Jihad, paid to do it.

00:43:48.000 They pay for his apartment.

00:43:50.000 They put him on the no-fly list so he can't get away from his handler who is freaking him out.

00:43:55.000 He tries to get a job in Alaska, so they put him on the no-fly list so he can't get a job.

00:44:00.000 So what does he have to do now?

00:44:01.000 He has to ask for more money from his FBI handler.

00:44:04.000 He's now even more under control.

00:44:06.000 And later, of course, that FBI handler hands him a cell phone and tells him to blow up something.

00:44:12.000 So he dials the number and is arrested.

00:44:14.000 He's still in jail for the rest of his life, and the war on terror is given more justification for its existence.

00:44:22.000 So these operations are happening all the time.

00:44:24.000 All it takes for an operation for something real to happen, a real bomb, is to take one of these existing, always existing, always ongoing sting operations, and instead of putting in fake explosives, like they say they do these times, put in a real bomb, like they did at Oklahoma City.

00:44:44.000 And watch it blow up and watch every agent on the scene scramble for cover and start coming up with cover stories because they may not exactly know what happened, but they know they'll get in trouble for whatever happened.

00:44:57.000 So they're going to cover themselves.

00:44:59.000 So the cover up after the fact is also not based upon universal knowledge of the attack.

00:45:06.000 Everyone is covering up everything for their own reasons.

00:45:10.000 And that's probably what we're going to see at Benghazi.

00:45:15.000 Let's go to our next caller.

00:45:16.000 We've got a number of callers on the line.

00:45:18.000 Like I said, this is Friday.

00:45:19.000 I'm the guest host in place of Alex, and I'd like to talk to his audience.

00:45:23.000 So let's go to Steve from Costa Rica.

00:45:26.000 Oh, hi.

00:45:26.000 Hello, Steve.

00:45:29.000 Great.

00:45:29.000 I'm glad to meet you.

00:45:30.000 It's wonderful to get on talking to you guys.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, it's just amazing how people just aren't being aware of the corruption that's going on there and these false flags.

00:45:43.000 Things are becoming so obvious that it's just phenomenal that they just don't get it.

00:45:48.000 Well, a lot of them do get it, but it's not in their interest to talk about it.

00:45:53.000 Well, I don't know, they're being lazy or something.

00:45:55.000 You know, I'm doing everything I can from down here because I talk pretty crazy myself and, you know, I'm doing the YouTube stuff and... Well, when you live in an insane world, being a little crazy is probably not an entirely bad thing.

00:46:09.000 Well, what the Chico's call me down here is gringo local, so I might have deserved that in some respect, because they know I'm not your normal gringo down here. 1.00

00:46:19.000 But it takes a while to get a little respect down here.

00:46:22.000 But one of the things, too, with this whole corruption stuff and And this whole banking structure that's affected Costa Rica, which I'm really so sad to see, is the last two presidents have borrowed so much money, billions and billions and hundreds of billions of dollars from these same banksters in Europe that have been repossessed in Greece and Cyprus that are going for billions and billions and hundreds of billions of dollars from these same banksters And they're going to be coming here.

00:46:48.000 They already done it to Stockton, California.

00:46:51.000 They repossessed Stockton.

00:46:52.000 People don't understand.

00:46:54.000 They're taking their pension funds.

00:46:56.000 When are they going to wake up?

00:46:58.000 Exactly.

00:46:59.000 What's happening in Europe, what is happening in Greece, what they tried to pull off in Iceland is just a precursor of what they're going to try to pull off We're not asking people to make fantabulous, you know, inventions here.

00:47:13.000 Just learn the lessons of very recent history and apply them to what's going on today.

00:47:18.000 What they pulled off, what they tried to pull off in Iceland, what they're pulling off in Greece, Spain, Italy, is what they're going to do in this country when the bill comes.

00:47:26.000 We are no different and we are not immune from history.

00:47:31.000 Peace by peace, like a cancer.

00:47:33.000 It's spreading like a cancer, not like a virus, because that grows too fast.

00:47:37.000 Peace by peace, and they're going to consume everybody.

00:47:40.000 And they're going to consume this poor country, too. 0.82

00:47:42.000 And these people know it down here, because there is austerity down here.

00:47:45.000 Everything has gone up, the cost of living, although it's a heck of a lot cheaper than the United States.

00:47:50.000 But still, in their respect, in their economy, everything has gone up, and the locals don't like it.

00:47:57.000 And they're pretty upset with the president.

00:47:58.000 You know, she's one of the first women presidents. 1.00

00:48:01.000 And she got him.

00:48:02.000 She got bought off by the United States.

00:48:04.000 Well, that's what happens.

00:48:05.000 I mean, Costa Rica is definitely within the sphere of influence of the United States, and they're not going to allow an independent to run that country for too long.

00:48:12.000 I thank you for calling in, Steve.

00:48:15.000 Great.

00:48:16.000 Good talking to you.

00:48:17.000 Have a great day then.

00:48:18.000 Awesome.

00:48:20.000 I have a lot of friends who have decided to go the expatriate route who are in Ecuador and Costa Rica and other countries.

00:48:25.000 I don't blame them at all.

00:48:27.000 I mean, if you want to go to Costa Rica, I fully sympathize.

00:48:30.000 I'm sure it's a beautiful country.

00:48:33.000 I myself was born in this country and I've already made a name for myself saying the things I do, so it's already too late for me to run.

00:48:37.000 It's not in my nature anyway.

00:48:40.000 But I fully understand those people who flee tyranny that is happening in this country, who have seen history and seeing it playing out again in this country. 0.99

00:48:49.000 You would be a fool to not read the signs and take action. 0.98

00:48:52.000 Either get out or go to battle, one or the other. 0.99

00:48:55.000 I'm not passing judgment on those who get out.

00:48:57.000 I think you're wise to avoid what's going on in this country.

00:49:01.000 I perhaps am not the smart one for sticking around and fighting it out, but then again, it's not the first time I've been accused of that.

00:49:08.000 Anyways, we're going to our next caller, John from Texas.

00:49:11.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show!

00:49:14.000 and what's going on, Buck.

00:49:15.000 I really appreciate what you guys are doing out there.

00:49:18.000 And people are spreading the word.

00:49:20.000 You know, I ain't going to run either, you know.

00:49:22.000 I look at it, and I already know what they're trying to do to us.

00:49:27.000 I'm not dealing with it, you know.

00:49:30.000 I'm not having it.

00:49:31.000 But I just got some breaking news is the reason why I'm calling, because, you know, every day listening, my first time calling.

00:49:36.000 But I got some breaking news.

00:49:36.000 Excellent.

00:49:40.000 The Texas bombing, the West Texas bombing, - Are you talking about the fertilizer plant in Waco, Texas?

00:49:47.000 Is that what you're referring to?

00:49:49.000 Yes, sir.

00:49:50.000 Okay.

00:49:51.000 I'm looking at my news just now.

00:49:53.000 I got it recorded and everything.

00:49:55.000 I got footage of it, but he caught a guy.

00:49:58.000 You say caught the man, is that caught on private communications between first responders?

00:50:08.000 Is that on the news?

00:50:09.000 No, no.

00:50:10.000 He said that he caught the guy.

00:50:12.000 Federal agents got this guy now and he's an EMS guy.

00:50:16.000 EMS or EMT, one of the two.

00:50:20.000 His name is Brian.

00:50:24.000 Well, yeah, we have the article online right now on InfoWars.

00:50:27.000 I'm looking at it right now.

00:50:28.000 So it looks like there is some developing information in that investigation.

00:50:31.000 I was wondering exactly how that fertilizer plant exactly went up.

00:50:35.000 Being on fire doesn't necessarily mean it'll explode.

00:50:37.000 Anyways, I think you're calling into the Alex Jones Show.

00:50:40.000 We're going to break right now and go to our next callers.

00:50:43.000 I thank you for calling in.

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00:54:05.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:10.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:54:19.000 I'm Holland Van Den Ornop, guest hosting this May 10th.

00:54:24.000 All the callers on the line, be patient.

00:54:27.000 I will get to you as soon as I can.

00:54:29.000 Today we're discussing, as a direct topic, the information coming out of the Benghazi attacks on September 11th of last year.

00:54:38.000 We can cover other topics, of course.

00:54:39.000 There's a lot of other topics.

00:54:40.000 I really want to get into the fact that the State Department has shut down the 3D printing plans that are being distributed, that they're citing an international arms control treaty They shut down a website that's doing plans on making a gun, printing a gun on a 3D printer.

00:54:57.000 Of course, Alex has had Cody Wilson on the show in the past talking about this new evolution in manufacturing.

00:55:05.000 The fact that now engineers are going to have more power than politicians.

00:55:10.000 I think that's a new good trend.

00:55:13.000 I've had my dealings with a number of politicians over the year.

00:55:16.000 I've not been impressed.

00:55:17.000 With their IQ, however, engineers, I'm fully confident, can pull off their plans competently.

00:55:25.000 And the latest news coming out of Cody Wilson and his enterprise, his endeavors, is that the State Department has shut down his website and its distribution of files that allow 3D printers to print up the Liberator handgun.

00:55:41.000 Which is a ABS plastic handgun that can be made entirely from a 3D printer minus the nail which you can buy at Home Depot as a firing pin.

00:55:50.000 A weapon that fires apparently most popular pistol calibers.

00:55:55.000 It's based on the Liberator pistol from World War II, which is a one-shot pistol dropped behind the lines to the French Resistance.

00:56:01.000 The idea being that you took the Liberator in your hand, and you walked up to a German sentry, you dispatched the sentry with your Liberator, and you took his weapon, and now you were armed to fight the Resistance.

00:56:12.000 Cody Wilson has invoked that name for the Liberator, and his new principal handgun And the State Department has struck back by shutting down the website and its distribution because apparently foreign users are offloading or downloading those files and that violates some international arms control treaty.

00:56:33.000 So we're seeing the pushback.

00:56:35.000 On this gun control fight.

00:56:39.000 Now what Cody Wilson and his people are doing is circumventing the whole political process by conventionally which they restrict and control our behavior through taxation, through laws, through bans, through prisons.

00:56:52.000 When you can print up whatever is your heart's desire, if it be a gun, it really doesn't matter how many words are written on a piece of paper signed by the governor.

00:57:04.000 That is not reality.

00:57:06.000 What is happening on the ground is reality.

00:57:08.000 And now, we're going to be able to see the capability to manufacture your own weaponry.

00:57:15.000 Now some people may be predicting some kind of Mad Max chaotic world in such an event, but it's not too much different from what's going on now, because you can purchase basically whatever you want.

00:57:23.000 You're just going to be able to circumnavigate government restriction on your freedom.

00:57:29.000 So perhaps the new fight for freedom is not going to be in the halls of state capitals of the White House, of the Congressional Building in D.C.

00:57:38.000 Maybe the future fight for freedom will be in laboratories.

00:57:42.000 Beyond computers.

00:57:42.000 And actually I think that's what's happening now.

00:57:45.000 We see a lot of people on the edge of the technological revolution.

00:57:48.000 How are freedom oriented?

00:57:51.000 Directly so.

00:57:52.000 Involved in the fight.

00:57:53.000 We see it.

00:57:54.000 We want the hackers and engineers and technological gurus on our side.

00:57:59.000 Because this obsolete system that they're trying to keep in place over us, controlling our behavior, is obsolete.

00:58:06.000 They're refusing to come to grips with it, and now they're striking back by trying to ban things, like with the State Department, banning defense distributed from getting these plans on how to make guns out there.

00:58:20.000 We can fight back.

00:58:20.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

00:58:22.000 I'm Holland Vanden Heuwenhoff.

00:58:23.000 We'll be right back.

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00:59:59.000 Big Brother.

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01:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

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01:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:27.000 Welcome back, I'm Holland Vanden Ornoff.

01:00:29.000 Let's go to our next caller.

01:00:31.000 Greg from Colorado.

01:00:33.000 Hello Greg and welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:35.000 You're speaking with Holland Vanden Ornoff.

01:00:37.000 Welcome to the show.

01:00:39.000 Hello?

01:00:40.000 Yes, Greg.

01:00:41.000 You're on the air.

01:00:42.000 Yeah, I'm here.

01:00:44.000 I got a question I haven't heard anybody ask and one of the battle cries seems to be, quote Bono, who benefits?

01:00:53.000 And on all the gun manufacturing and ammo shortages and stuff, it seems like the gun manufacturers and ammo manufacturers are benefiting.

01:01:01.000 And I wondered if anybody had traced up the ownership of the gun manufacturers and stuff.

01:01:07.000 Well, that's a very good question, Greg.

01:01:08.000 And what you're seeing actually is pushback from many players in the gun industry, including Magpul out of California and other companies, PTR out of Connecticut.

01:01:18.000 They are pulling out of their home states where they were founded, where they conduct their operations, because their state governments are restricting their ability to sell their products.

01:01:27.000 That is an admirable and noble effort on their part.

01:01:30.000 To exert effort to get away from there.

01:01:32.000 We're seeing other gun companies who are being strangely silent.

01:01:35.000 Now I'll give you a hint as to the gun companies are being strangely silent in this fight.

01:01:39.000 They also receive hefty government contracts for the war on terror.

01:01:43.000 Remington, HK, FN, those are the big gun manufacturers in this company.

01:01:49.000 And the reason they are big is because they are making M4s and squad automatic weapons and M240 Gulls for the US military for their war on terror.

01:01:57.000 That's where the real money and guns is, is government contracts.

01:02:01.000 Not selling Ruger deer rifles to Jim Bob in Oklahoma City, okay?

01:02:07.000 That is not a major money industry.

01:02:10.000 It's money industry, but it's not...

01:02:12.000 Anything compared to the money and the connections that are being forged with the major gun manufacturers that are dealing in government contracts.

01:02:21.000 And those gun manufacturers have been strangely silent in this gun control fight.

01:02:26.000 Maybe they don't want to jeopardize their government contracts.

01:02:28.000 So if you really want to look into a conspiracy regarding the gun manufacturers, look into the gun manufacturers who are making their money off selling guns to the government.

01:02:37.000 Awesome.

01:02:38.000 Thanks for answering my question.

01:02:39.000 You're welcome, Greg, and thank you for calling in.

01:02:41.000 Let's go to our next caller, Scott from Missouri, the Show-Me State.

01:02:46.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

01:02:46.000 Hello, Scott.

01:02:48.000 Hi.

01:02:49.000 I have some comments to make, and then I have a question.

01:02:56.000 It's regards to waking people up.

01:02:58.000 Okay.

01:02:59.000 And consider a hypothetical situation.

01:03:01.000 Let's just pretend for one moment that tomorrow on Fox News they aired, let's say, the director of the CIA literally confessing the whole operation to be an inside job.

01:03:12.000 Take Boston, we'll just take that.

01:03:13.000 Okay.

01:03:14.000 He confesses that Boston's an inside job, blah blah blah, and let's say there's a five minute clip.

01:03:18.000 It's a nice fantasy to indulge in, but go ahead.

01:03:21.000 It's a nice fantasy to indulge in, someone actually telling the truth in government, but go ahead.

01:03:21.000 What's that?

01:03:26.000 Of course, it would never happen, but let's say there's a five minute segment, there's a whole talking head thing, and anyway.

01:03:31.000 And then after that, the media, mainstream media says, oh wait, we screwed up, we weren't supposed to air that.

01:03:35.000 And of course, there's the blackout, like always.

01:03:38.000 My point is, I could take that video, I could show it to ten people, they're all going to say I'm nuts, they're still not going to wake up, even if they believed the video, They'll sit there and ponder it in their head for a moment, and then they'll just go back to what they're doing, voting for Democrats or Republicans.

01:03:53.000 The point is, I've woken some people up, just like some people have woken me up, but most of the people that I deal with, including my family, they're so stubborn that they just don't understand.

01:04:04.000 They think that, well, on one side, they believe in the whole Democrat thing, and they watch CNN.

01:04:09.000 On the other side, they watch the whole Fox thing, and they believe in the Republican Uh, philosophy, and I keep trying to tell them. 0.99

01:04:15.000 I said, they're all crooks. 0.87

01:04:16.000 You know, 9-11's an insider. 1.00

01:04:17.000 I go through the whole spiel, the whole deal, and it doesn't matter.

01:04:20.000 My point is, let's just say George Bush did, Wile E. Coyote style, push the plunger for the Trade Center.

01:04:28.000 It doesn't matter.

01:04:29.000 Take the 93 bombing.

01:04:31.000 It's all on record that it was an... Oh yeah, I mean, what you're arguing is not so much hypothetical, it's happened before.

01:04:37.000 And referencing 1993, the first attack on the World Trade Centers, they admitted it was their bomb, they cooked them, they told them to do it. 0.84

01:04:44.000 It was in the New York Times, 60 Minutes, and of course nothing occurs.

01:04:47.000 I thank you for calling in, Scott, and we're going to break right now.

01:04:50.000 And for those of you listening, we'll be right back after these messages.

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01:08:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this live Friday edition as we broadcast worldwide.

01:08:23.000 I am coming to you from a South Texas highway as I drive down the road via the magic of audio Skype and Holland van den Nieuwenhoff, a filmmaker and researcher and talk show host in his own right, who I've known for Many years is come the master of ceremonies the MC today Who is basically the traffic cop?

01:08:45.000 We're going to have also David Knight at the bottom of the hour pop in with a bunch of other breaking news Including new developments in the West fertilizer explosion Where they're now saying it might be foul play.

01:08:58.000 We're going to be looking into that as well and obviously Benghazi then Jakari Jackson will pop in with some special reports coming up In the last 30 minutes and we're going to continue in the next two hours with open phones I will be live of course in studio this Sunday 4 to 6 p.m.

01:09:18.000 Central Standard Time, but the reason I like to have Holland Vanden Heuwenhoff in Is that I listen to his show?

01:09:26.000 Whenever I get a chance and of course he's comfortable on his own show And he's a first-class brain and does a great job.

01:09:35.000 You can hear he's a little bit nervous doing this one, going from hundreds of thousands to millions of listeners.

01:09:39.000 But he's doing a great job today, so I want to welcome him into the second hour.

01:09:43.000 I know some stations and XM, now Channel 244, join us in the second and third hours.

01:09:50.000 And of course, we also have InfoWars Nightly News.

01:09:52.000 But I just wanted to tell you why I have Holland Van Den Neuenhoff hosting the show.

01:09:57.000 He was a Marine Corps rifle leader, and he's just a great researcher.

01:10:03.000 And I've heard his analysis, read his analysis, and it's been spot on on so many points.

01:10:09.000 Plus, with the case of Oklahoma City, he got the film made that is the only professionally done definitive work 18, 19 years after that tragic event in 1995, open and shut who the players were, the bombs inside the buildings, who planted them, directly the bombs inside the buildings, who planted them, directly from the police officers and other survivors.

01:10:29.000 So, I always promote that film.

01:10:31.000 I'm also in it.

01:10:32.000 A Noble Lie, 1995, available on InfoWars.

01:10:36.000 Store.com and get it show it to friends and family because they will then understand false flag you see something like Benghazi or you see something like You know something out there like the Boston bombing when you study Covert history, military history, black-op history, staged event history, and there's hundreds of declassified French, Italian, British, German, Nazi, Russian, Communist, Czarist before them, Maoist staged events.

01:11:06.000 When you learn the Romans were obsessed with staging events and blaming it on their enemies, when you learn that this is such a part of history, then you look at each new event and say, well, is it the usual culprit or is it a real event?

01:11:19.000 And there are real events.

01:11:22.000 There are real events, kind of like there are four-leaf clovers, but they're very, very rare in a grove of clover, in a patch of clover.

01:11:30.000 You can look for ten hours and maybe find one mutation that is the real lone wolf anomaly.

01:11:38.000 Very, very rare.

01:11:39.000 Maybe.

01:11:41.000 The, you know, shootings in Norway.

01:11:43.000 Maybe that was real.

01:11:44.000 But there was a drill there and a stand down as well.

01:11:46.000 They use the drill so if their operatives get caught, they can then say it was just part of the drill.

01:11:53.000 They use it to also confuse everybody when the event happens so no one knows who was involved because there were so many people there taking part in something that mirrors it.

01:12:01.000 But in the case of Benghazi, for those that don't know, when I've covered Bilderberg in the U.S., uh... last year and four years before that almost five years ago in virginia they had marines in plainclothes following us Uh, breaking in our room.

01:12:19.000 We had some stuff taken.

01:12:20.000 We believe it was them.

01:12:21.000 Never made a big deal about that on air.

01:12:24.000 Cracking into our phones and threatening us and telling us what we were talking about on the phone so they'd know it was the government.

01:12:30.000 Flipping us off.

01:12:31.000 We have photos of this in plain clothes.

01:12:33.000 Marines coming in and sitting down next to us in the restaurant at our hotel saying, hey, you want to attack the State Department?

01:12:40.000 And then they let her just admit who they were and said, we're making sure you're not playing anything.

01:12:44.000 Okay, so the Marines guard the embassies.

01:12:47.000 At Holland, of course, there's a Marine, and he's talked to Marines, but it's on record the procedure.

01:12:51.000 They had a base a mile away, less than a mile.

01:12:54.000 They had helicopter bases five miles away.

01:12:56.000 They had predators in the sky.

01:12:58.000 The Al-Qaeda forces were hired to be the head of security in Benghazi.

01:13:02.000 There was a stand-down, not a six-hour, more like an eight-hour, from when they began to desperately call for help, and the group was massing out front.

01:13:11.000 And Holland, we talked privately about what you believe happened, and I wish you'd break down some of that, because a lot of my other sources agree, they were meant to attack the place, use the protest as the cover to get the missiles in the warehouse behind it, so the government could have plausible deniability later and say, Al Qaeda stole the heatseekers, which they're now showing on London Guardian and Associated Press.

01:13:35.000 They're very proud of it.

01:13:37.000 But regardless, when they lied, and we now have a congresswoman, Up on InfoWars.com, saying, we ought to play that clip later if we have time, when David Knight comes in, you know, saying, no, Obama knew, Obama ordered the stand down.

01:13:50.000 Of course he did.

01:13:51.000 Of course Hillary was in charge of the State Department. 1.00

01:13:53.000 They, once it started, they wanted those people dead.

01:13:57.000 And the two SEALs assigned to CIA, who broke orders to stand down, Who went and shot at the guys from behind and made it go a lot longer.

01:14:07.000 They are what made it incredibly obvious to CENTCOM and NATO and all of them that there was a stand down.

01:14:12.000 Because NATO was in charge.

01:14:14.000 See, that's why the globalists, Obama has transferred power to NATO.

01:14:18.000 Because now he can plausibly deny and cut the Pentagon chain out of things.

01:14:22.000 This is a coup.

01:14:23.000 We've had the coup.

01:14:25.000 And now the coup is obvious that globalists have taken over America.

01:14:28.000 This is what we're getting at.

01:14:29.000 So I want you to be able to break that down, Holland. 1.00

01:14:33.000 And also continue to take some more calls, but for those that study this, it came out day one that they stood down.

01:14:41.000 It came out day one they had predators over it and got caught lying.

01:14:44.000 Five days after it happened, they had Rice, ambassador of the UN, say that this wasn't terror, no one thought of it.

01:14:51.000 If terrorists and hundreds of guys, first 200, then 300, then some message 400 or more, with anti-aircraft weapons at point-blank range and grenade launchers and bazookas and heavy machine guns and a stand-down with inside knowledge of how to break in and how to get past the countermeasures, this is ridiculous. with anti-aircraft weapons at point-blank range and grenade launchers and And again, it's hiding in plain view.

01:15:12.000 And what's happened is they're using 1960s and 70s events when they controlled the newspapers and they controlled all the media to still run these events and it doesn't work anymore.

01:15:23.000 So, Holland, I wanted you, before we go to break, to spend the next five minutes.

01:15:26.000 We know they're lying about Benghazi, but what do you think exactly happened there, and how big will this be?

01:15:31.000 And here's the big one.

01:15:32.000 What will they stage?

01:15:33.000 I said in the first hour yesterday, they might stage an attack on Obama to make him the victim.

01:15:38.000 Horrible idea to call for violence.

01:15:41.000 Horrible idea to wish for harm on Obama, as we've heard some say.

01:15:44.000 That only turns him into a victim. 0.97

01:15:47.000 He is a puppet himself. 1.00

01:15:50.000 I would take the bullet for Obama, Alex. 1.00

01:15:52.000 I would take it rather than listen to the martyrdom afterwards. 0.78

01:15:56.000 So what will they do?

01:15:56.000 Absolutely.

01:15:58.000 A new war?

01:15:59.000 Escalation of Syria? 0.95

01:16:01.000 Another false flag?

01:16:01.000 What do you think they're going to try to pull?

01:16:04.000 That's the big one, because this is one of the biggest political events in the last hundred years in this country.

01:16:10.000 This is a giant, huge event where they have been caught, pants down, hand in cookie jar.

01:16:16.000 This is huge.

01:16:18.000 Again, again, they've been caught and the false flag attack has become, like I said, standard operating procedure.

01:16:24.000 It's literally how they start a new program now.

01:16:27.000 It's like, well, we want to implement a new agenda.

01:16:29.000 What do we do?

01:16:29.000 Well, we're going to have to create something.

01:16:31.000 We're going to have to create reality.

01:16:33.000 Karl Rove talked about this openly during the Bush administration.

01:16:36.000 They are now putting it on the ground.

01:16:38.000 And what we're going to see in the future, Alex, I think obviously is an attack that's going to be blamed on domestic dissent.

01:16:45.000 They still need to play that card.

01:16:48.000 And perhaps they were trying to play it during the Boston bombings.

01:16:51.000 And that would be hard for me to impart the frustration, the feelings I was going through watching that go down nearly on the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.

01:17:00.000 During on Patriots Day, when these significant dates in effect and we see terrorism again striking America.

01:17:10.000 Like Alex said, I served the United States Marine Corps.

01:17:13.000 I was a rifle squad leader and I took my oath seriously to the Constitution to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic activists.

01:17:21.000 I nearly yelled those words in the recruiting station when I gave the oath because I meant it.

01:17:26.000 And I told my Marines also that if I ever get the order to disarm the American people, the officer who gives that order, well, he's going to be a very unlucky man that day.

01:17:34.000 And I'm headed home to defend my family.

01:17:36.000 And they were good with that.

01:17:37.000 They were very good with that.

01:17:39.000 I'd actually like to make a revelation on air here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:17:44.000 One of the arresting officers of the Chechen bombers, the one they found in the boat, one of the arresting officers was actually in my rifle squad in the Marine Corps.

01:17:53.000 We were very close.

01:17:55.000 We got in a lot of scraps together.

01:17:56.000 We are brothers.

01:17:58.000 And he is unable to provide me with information.

01:18:02.000 And when Anderson Cooper had the Watertown SWAT team on air, in gear, Talking about their noble capture of the suspect, I noticed that my friend, who was the officer who cuffed that man, was not in that crowd.

01:18:16.000 He was not being interviewed.

01:18:17.000 In fact, he was in the Caribbean on vacation.

01:18:20.000 So they actually sequestered him, they sent him away, and he is unable to talk to anyone, especially me.

01:18:26.000 Um, so the fix isn't on that.

01:18:28.000 They don't want people talking about the arresting officers talking about what they saw, the fact that in that boat that that kid had no weapon, that they riddled the boat with bullets trying to kill him.

01:18:39.000 I was very surprised when they found that found that boy alive.

01:18:43.000 And then when he stood up, when he stood up, no blood out of the throat, then he cut his throat out, and now we have the video and the audio of them saying, don't shoot, we didn't do it.

01:18:51.000 You have the witnesses saying they didn't shoot.

01:18:53.000 They had orders to get rid of those guys, just like the two dead cops, Friendly Fire, just like the cops shooting nine people in New York last year, trying to cover that up, saying it was a mass shooting.

01:19:04.000 This happens over and over again.

01:19:06.000 I mean, we would be crazy To believe what known liars are telling us over and over again.

01:19:11.000 But, Holland, what you said, I know we're going to break, when we come back, what you said at the very start of the show, you should repeat that, that was an info war battle over the truth.

01:19:22.000 At the beginning and middle and now throughout the next phase of the Boston bombing.

01:19:28.000 Clearly we've been lied to. 0.78

01:19:30.000 Clearly those guys were patsies.

01:19:32.000 Clearly the older brother was part of a CIA State Department funded Muslim extremist infiltrator group. 0.83

01:19:38.000 Because when they say Groups out of Chechnya and Dagestan attacked America.

01:19:43.000 Those groups are all run by the Global... They support the American government. 0.64

01:19:46.000 I talked to a special forces operator who was shooting Russian cops in Chechnya in the mid-90s at the behest of this government.

01:19:51.000 The Chechen groups support the U.S. 1.00

01:19:53.000 government.

01:19:55.000 They were created 100% on record, funded.

01:19:57.000 Because they were a tool against the Russians. 0.93

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01:23:58.000 it's the only one you've got welcome back to the Alex Jones show on I'm the guest host today, Holland van den Nieuwenhoff.

01:24:23.000 I'd like to reiterate a point I was talking about earlier.

01:24:25.000 Talking about winning the info war, winning the info battle.

01:24:29.000 For those of you waiting for the revolution to occur, it's happening now.

01:24:33.000 There's no reason to wait.

01:24:34.000 The information revolution is now.

01:24:36.000 We are in three phases of resistance.

01:24:39.000 Right now we're in the ideological phase.

01:24:42.000 The information war, of which Alex Jones and his operation are the tip of the spear, as we've seen in recent events.

01:24:49.000 And what happened in Boston, was a major historical battle in that information war.

01:24:57.000 And we won hands down.

01:25:02.000 Won that battle.

01:25:03.000 We're winning the war.

01:25:06.000 Hillary Clinton herself admitted on TV that we are losing the information war.

01:25:11.000 That was a call for help.

01:25:12.000 And they are hurting.

01:25:14.000 That's right.

01:25:14.000 They are losing.

01:25:15.000 And we are winning.

01:25:17.000 What we saw in Boston, the fact that the official story was unraveling as it was being laid out.

01:25:23.000 Tells you that.

01:25:24.000 So what's going to be the next learning paradigm for the information revolution?

01:25:27.000 Perhaps unraveling these operations before they occur.

01:25:31.000 Perhaps we can save lives.

01:25:34.000 That is the challenge I'm issuing to this new information paradigm.

01:25:38.000 To what we're doing now.

01:25:39.000 We need to stop these attacks before they occur.

01:25:41.000 We need to start saving lives directly.

01:25:44.000 Show that to the world.

01:25:45.000 Not only are we exposing this, we are saving lives.

01:25:48.000 Are you still there, Alex?

01:25:50.000 Yes, I am, and I'm going to turn the broadcast over to you and the listeners and David Knight coming in with some breaking news in the next segment.

01:25:56.000 But again, it's a great responsibility.

01:26:01.000 When I got up here on air and I told the listeners, hey, We're the tip of the spear.

01:26:05.000 We're fighting the tyranny.

01:26:06.000 We need your support.

01:26:08.000 It's because it is creepy.

01:26:10.000 It is scary to sit there and see the international media attack us and say don't listen to us.

01:26:19.000 And it's scary to know that we're effective.

01:26:21.000 And it's scary to know that we're actually having Victories against me.

01:26:25.000 I mean it's booing.

01:26:26.000 It's exciting.

01:26:27.000 It's good because I want liberty, but it's also creepy to you know to know that that humanity does have power and that we have individually taken action against these people and That because we built a platform to do it that we're having a huge effect so that's why we asked listeners for their prayers or support and Garrison was asked Jim Garrison, you know people so how do you how are you still alive with all the JFK info and

01:26:52.000 They've now had a top Republican come out and point out what we already know, that LBJ basically gave the order to have him killed with people above him.

01:26:58.000 And he said, well, you've got to stay in the sunshine.

01:27:01.000 You've got to stay in the light.

01:27:02.000 You've got to stay big.

01:27:04.000 Our only answer going through this black hole is to go in through and beyond.

01:27:08.000 We've got to go 110%.

01:27:11.000 Because the old sports adage, as soon as you don't go 100%, that's when you get hurt.

01:27:16.000 Anybody that plays sports knows that.

01:27:18.000 It's not the football play, where you go over 100% as hard as you can, that you get hurt.

01:27:24.000 It's when you aren't meditating, you don't go 100%.

01:27:28.000 It's when you're lazy.

01:27:29.000 None of us can be lazy.

01:27:31.000 And the globalists are cornered right now. 1.00

01:27:33.000 Uh, everything they do basically turns to crap. 1.00

01:27:37.000 And, but still they're in control. 0.98

01:27:38.000 And, and Hillary two years ago said we're losing the info war, emergency.

01:27:42.000 Uh, Brzezinski's saying that.

01:27:45.000 And so they're trying to set up a police state.

01:27:47.000 But we need the people in government who aren't evil to realize this isn't a joke and your naivete is going to empower this total takeover.

01:27:55.000 And the general public, not just government.

01:27:57.000 We get the government we deserve.

01:27:59.000 We have been passive. 1.00

01:28:00.000 We have been pathetic. 1.00

01:28:01.000 And we have let so much of this evil take over. 0.99

01:28:04.000 But here's the final big issue.

01:28:06.000 They are going to try to stage something to get themselves out of this.

01:28:10.000 And we need to put pressure on the Republicans to go all the way.

01:28:15.000 There needs to be impeachment.

01:28:16.000 There needs to be indictment.

01:28:18.000 They have been caught ordering the stand down.

01:28:20.000 They have been caught lying to Congress.

01:28:22.000 They have been caught lying, just like Fast and Furious.

01:28:25.000 They cannot get away with this Benghazi thing. 0.99

01:28:27.000 This is so cut and dry.

01:28:29.000 And I, quite frankly, am surprised. 0.98

01:28:31.000 That it's come out this hardcore and that the State Department people weren't bigger scumbags and have all this courage. 0.93

01:28:39.000 That gives me faith that there are still a lot of good people, but we've got to stand behind good people. 0.95

01:28:45.000 You can look at the body language of Hicks and others.

01:28:48.000 Those are good men and women.

01:28:49.000 They're freaked out.

01:28:50.000 They're putting their lives on the line.

01:28:52.000 They know what really happened.

01:28:53.000 It's more than a stand down. 0.99

01:28:54.000 It was an op to kill those people and then cover it up. 0.94

01:28:57.000 And I saw Obama in Austin yesterday, video on the news live. 0.99

01:29:01.000 He looked doubly arrogant and smug. 0.93

01:29:03.000 That's a cover. 0.90

01:29:04.000 These are men just like us.

01:29:07.000 They can be defeated.

01:29:08.000 We can restore the republic.

01:29:10.000 But we've got to have the will and to believe we can win.

01:29:13.000 The globalists are not all powerful.

01:29:15.000 And if God be with us, who can stand against us?

01:29:17.000 So, again, spread the word about the broadcast.

01:29:20.000 Support our local AM and FM affiliates.

01:29:22.000 This is history, what's happening.

01:29:24.000 And we're willing to do it, so support us.

01:29:27.000 And we're going to support others that stand up for truth.

01:29:29.000 Hollin' in and newin' off. 0.79

01:29:30.000 I'm going to hand things over to you.

01:29:31.000 I'll be back Sunday at 4 to 6.

01:29:33.000 And David Knight's coming up with you and phone calls.

01:29:35.000 All this and a lot more straight ahead.

01:29:37.000 And great job to the crew.

01:29:39.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:29:39.000 We'll be right back.

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01:33:14.000 So, Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:25.000 I'm guest hosting today, May 10th, Holland van den Oorenhof, Ivan Studio, Special Info Wars reporter David Knight with some topics, some timely news.

01:33:36.000 Before we go into that, we had a caller call in earlier announcing the news that someone had been investigated or there was an opening criminal investigation into the West Texas fertilizer plant explosion.

01:33:46.000 That appears to be true.

01:33:47.000 We just have been handed information by the producers here in Alex's studio.

01:33:51.000 That an EMT or EMSA worker is indeed under investigation for perhaps being responsible for the explosion there in Waco, Texas.

01:34:01.000 Obviously it's very strange when a fertilizer plant in Waco, Texas goes up in fire just a couple days before the anniversary of Waco.

01:34:08.000 My hackles were on edge there.

01:34:11.000 Apparently this paramedic named Bryce Reed was arrested for possessing a destructive device according to local reports.

01:34:18.000 Read had been a speaker at a memorial service for the victims of the explosion.

01:34:22.000 It's not clear that the two new developments are related.

01:34:24.000 Now keep in mind, this person may or may not be involved.

01:34:27.000 We've seen in recent history the FBI pinning major crimes on people, Elvis impersonators.

01:34:35.000 Apparently we're involved with the Poison Letters, the DC.

01:34:38.000 It seems like they're kind of replaying the mid-90s when they were using Richard Jewell as the bogeyman for so many things.

01:34:44.000 They're doing the same thing now.

01:34:45.000 So this paramedic may or may not be involved, may or may not be guilty, and may or may not be true.

01:34:51.000 So it is developing, it is breaking, and we will definitely keep an eye on it.

01:34:55.000 But David Knight?

01:34:55.000 Yeah, there's a lot of suspicious stuff about that, and we've had a lot of people asking us to do more reporting on that.

01:35:02.000 We've tried to stay on the obvious false flag with the obvious agenda, which is the Boston bombing.

01:35:08.000 You know, personally, I felt that if the government was involved in this in some way, if it wasn't, it wasn't likely that it was an accident, you know, but, you know, if it was just a criminal case, because there was a long-standing lawsuit between them and Monsanto, that had been kind of dormant for a while.

01:35:24.000 It wasn't really clear what motivations anybody had, either personal or government motivations in this, if anything, because like you said, the timing and the location looked like it might be a distraction.

01:35:33.000 We wanted to stay on point.

01:35:34.000 We wanted to stay on the Boston bombing because it was so obviously a false flag.

01:35:39.000 Yeah.

01:35:39.000 And speaking of that, I gotta tell you, this is the first time we've met.

01:35:43.000 I really love your documentary, A Noble Lie, and we've mentioned that many, many times from day one with this Boston bombing, and the fact that there were certain elements that were present that made it obvious that there was something going on here that wasn't exactly what the government was telling us.

01:35:58.000 The fact that we had eyewitnesses saying that it was a drill at the beginning and at the end, and even the police chief saying that they had an unusually large number of people there, they were paying special attention to the finish line and all that sort of thing, as well as the pictures that surfaced and that sort of thing.

01:36:12.000 But, as we told people, your documentary, Noble Light, it took a long time for that to come out.

01:36:17.000 There were elements at the very beginning that were clear.

01:36:19.000 I remember back when it happened, and I remember the New American carrying a Brigadier General, you probably... Hinton K. Parton, yes.

01:36:26.000 The New American did excellent work.

01:36:27.000 And he was a specialist on that.

01:36:29.000 He said the blast pattern just doesn't make any sense.

01:36:32.000 You don't get a blast that big.

01:36:33.000 You don't get that kind of a pattern from that.

01:36:35.000 So there's something else going on.

01:36:37.000 So it was clear from that standpoint.

01:36:39.000 But that was back in the 90s.

01:36:41.000 We didn't have alternative media then.

01:36:42.000 We didn't have people that were staying on this stuff in real time.

01:36:46.000 The government media basically was just, oh yeah, that's the way it is.

01:36:50.000 So, but the stuff that you turned up took a long time to come out.

01:36:53.000 It took a lot of investigation on your part.

01:36:56.000 Same thing happened with Mike McNulty and Waco.

01:36:58.000 You know, he did a series of documentaries on Waco over a 10-year period of time.

01:37:03.000 And as time goes on, the truth eventually leaks out, even when you've got a controlled press like they did in the early 90s.

01:37:10.000 Even when you've got the government actively suppressing people and actively, in the case of that police officer, you know, perhaps killing him.

01:37:18.000 Yes, he was murdered for what he saw.

01:37:20.000 The truth eventually gets out.

01:37:21.000 What's changed is that because now we've got an active, visible alternative media, it's changing much more quickly.

01:37:28.000 And you've got situations, look at Benghazi for example.

01:37:32.000 That took a few months to go out.

01:37:33.000 It was obvious even to the mainstream press, was calling BS on the fact that this was the Muslim street inflamed by some movie.

01:37:40.000 In one location across the Middle East.

01:37:42.000 Only one place where they met and they killed the ambassador.

01:37:44.000 Exactly.

01:37:44.000 That was just beyond belief for anybody.

01:37:47.000 Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice stuck with that story.

01:37:50.000 It's like, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

01:37:52.000 You know, and they did that for several days.

01:37:53.000 It was the only thing they had.

01:37:55.000 The only thing they had.

01:37:56.000 Exactly.

01:37:57.000 So, when people say, when people look at our research, and we have to document stuff more carefully than the mainstream media does because they rely on your credulous faith.

01:38:06.000 Well that's the thing Dave, and that's the thing about, there was a caller earlier trying to explain his frustration about trying to wake people up, and the position we are in trying to fight the official narrative is that every single one of our facts must be true to the T, ultimately vetted, because the thing is when you're trying to wake someone up and you're presenting them with information, If you have one fact that it's not backed up, they will latch on to that and hold on to that regardless of the rest of the bulk of your argument.

01:38:34.000 It's all lost because one thing that you said perhaps did not pan out to a tee.

01:38:34.000 That's right.

01:38:41.000 And that is just human nature.

01:38:42.000 I'm not saying it's right or wrong, whatever.

01:38:44.000 It's human nature and if you're going to want to wake people up, you're going to have to deal with that.

01:38:47.000 And the counter to that is to being absolutely sure and vetted in your information.

01:38:52.000 But the thing is, that's not too hard either.

01:38:53.000 Because what the stories they put out are simply ludicrous.

01:38:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:38:57.000 Absolutely.

01:38:58.000 So, these types of things are going to come out.

01:39:00.000 And when people call us conspiracists, I mean, pick a conspiracy.

01:39:03.000 Fast and Furious.

01:39:05.000 Benghazi.

01:39:06.000 You know, even going back in time, look at the Iran-Contra thing, right?

01:39:09.000 You know, I mean, it's just, yes, government does get involved in conspiracy.

01:39:13.000 And yes, it is selected elements within the government.

01:39:16.000 That's modus operandi.

01:39:17.000 Conspiracy is two or more people engaging in a criminal enterprise.

01:39:20.000 I mean, that's the bulk of criminal activity.

01:39:22.000 Right, and the government charges people with a crime of conspiracy all the time.

01:39:26.000 But they level that charge at us essentially to say, you're off in loony land.

01:39:30.000 But like you said, we have to carefully document everything.

01:39:33.000 And it was amazing to me that this hit piece that came from National Review against Alex Jones was basically talking about the gospel of Alex Jones and how he's got some credulous audience that just takes everything that he says on faith.

01:39:45.000 But in reality, they didn't back that up with anything.

01:39:47.000 Even the first paragraph they went into was talking about bullets and ammunition story.

01:39:52.000 Which, from day one, we linked to the FedBiz op page, which showed the actual purchase order.

01:39:58.000 And now it turns out Senator Inhofe is now confirming that's all true.

01:40:01.000 That's not conspiracy theory.

01:40:02.000 And the National Review made the incredible statement that the ammunition levels were the same as they were the previous year, and it was all for target hunting.

01:40:10.000 And we had deceived these congressmen and senators who were coming in there.

01:40:14.000 So they threw their own Republican senators under the bus.

01:40:17.000 Yeah, National Review is supposed to be an arch-conservative, has been an arch-conservative paper for decades, or news magazine.

01:40:24.000 How come they are serving, how come they are fulfilling a propaganda agenda for the government?

01:40:30.000 Well, because from the beginning they were affiliated with the CIA, William F. Buckley, and the neocons, and they have basically been cheerleaders for every military engagement everywhere.

01:40:39.000 So just like MSNBC, you know, and CNN, yeah, if you scratch their roots, you find the CIA and you find the military-industrial complex, you know.

01:40:48.000 Is that so hard to believe, people, that the media is controlled?

01:40:51.000 Just think about it this way.

01:40:52.000 Power organizes, right?

01:40:54.000 Power organizes to implement its own agenda, fulfill its own needs.

01:40:58.000 Why would the power elite not control the media?

01:41:03.000 That's two and two equals four.

01:41:03.000 Of course they would.

01:41:05.000 They would control the media.

01:41:07.000 Well, if you think that they don't control the media, that's anomalous to the laws of history and nature.

01:41:12.000 Absolutely.

01:41:14.000 Changing the subject off of Benghazi, off of the conspiracy stuff again, we mentioned this briefly and I want to cover this.

01:41:20.000 This DC march that's coming up.

01:41:22.000 Yeah, Adam Kokesh, former Marine, is calling for an armed march on July 4th to, I guess, to symbolize our stand on gun rights.

01:41:31.000 Marching armed around DC.

01:41:33.000 And a lot of people have called into question, and of course there's a lot of risk, as people pointed out, there's a lot of risk that the government can false flag that.

01:41:33.000 It's ballsy.

01:41:41.000 That you can put Agent Provocateur. 0.98

01:41:42.000 Provocateur, fire one shot. 0.56

01:41:43.000 A whole lot of people, exactly.

01:41:45.000 They now have an excuse to basically do whatever they want if one guy does something.

01:41:49.000 Very, very risky.

01:41:50.000 However, there is a reason for him going in with loaded rifles.

01:41:55.000 And we've got a special report that I did basically looking at and analyzing what the D.C.

01:42:00.000 Police Chief said and what the Supreme Court has done relative to the D.C.

01:42:06.000 laws five years ago.

01:42:08.000 Let's play that special report right now guys.

01:42:13.000 Okay, they got it coming up in just a second.

01:42:15.000 Washington Police Chief Kathy Lanier had this to say when asked about Adam Kokesh's planned 4th of July march into Washington with loaded rifles.

01:42:24.000 First, I want to clear up, there's a difference between civil disobedience, which I think is this is being portrayed as a civil disobedience, and actually violation of the law.

01:42:32.000 I mean, there's two different things here.

01:42:33.000 So, civil disobedience, people come to Washington, D.C.

01:42:37.000 to protest policies and government policy all the time, no problem.

01:42:42.000 But when you cross into the District of Columbia with firearms and you're not in compliance with the law, now you're talking about a criminal offense and there's going to be some action by police.

01:42:50.000 So, Chief Lanier wants to make some kind of a distinction between civil disobedience and violating the law.

01:42:57.000 So, here again is her definition of civil disobedience.

01:43:01.000 Civil disobedience, people come to Washington D.C.

01:43:04.000 to protest policies and government policy all the time, no problem.

01:43:08.000 Note that Chief Lanier characterizes peaceful assembly in order to petition the government as civil disobedience.

01:43:15.000 But what law does a demonstration break?

01:43:18.000 When someone exercises their right to protest, specifically recognized by the First Amendment, how is that disobedience in any way?

01:43:27.000 Since the D.C.

01:43:28.000 Police Chief hasn't read the Constitution that she swore to uphold when she took office, let's remind her what it says. 1.00

01:43:34.000 The right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

01:43:42.000 Chief Lanier.

01:43:44.000 Going to Washington and protesting government policy is not civil disobedience.

01:43:49.000 It's an exercise of a constitutionally guaranteed right.

01:43:54.000 Civil doesn't mean polite.

01:43:56.000 It means government.

01:43:58.000 And as we all know from experience, government is not always civil.

01:44:03.000 Disobedience means to actively and publicly disobey laws that are unjust.

01:44:08.000 It is violating the law.

01:44:11.000 Martin Luther King had this to say about violating a court order against him marching.

01:44:17.000 That I do feel that there are two types of laws.

01:44:20.000 One is a just law and one is an unjust law.

01:44:24.000 I think we all have moral obligations to obey just laws.

01:44:29.000 On the other hand, I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws because non-cooperation with evil is as much a moral obligation as is cooperation with good.

01:44:41.000 Civil disobedience always involves violating a law.

01:44:45.000 That's where the disobedience part comes in.

01:44:47.000 So Kathy Lanier's distinction between civil disobedience and violating the law is nonsense.

01:44:53.000 But what is the law that Adam Kokesh and his marchers would be disobeying or violating?

01:44:59.000 The very law that was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2008.

01:45:03.000 In D.C.

01:45:04.000 vs. Heller.

01:45:05.000 Now, it's interesting to note that Dick Heller, the plaintiff in the case, was actually a D.C.

01:45:09.000 cop who was suing for his right to carry a gun off-duty.

01:45:14.000 Of course, the real precedent for it being an individual right is the Second Amendment itself.

01:45:19.000 Both the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that D.C.' 's gun laws violate the Constitution.

01:45:27.000 Washington, D.C.' 's Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975 specifically outlawed handguns and requires all firearms, including rifles and shotguns, to be kept, quote, unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock.

01:45:44.000 That is why I imagine Adam Kokash and the D.C.

01:45:47.000 marchers are going to be marching with loaded rifles to illustrate the fact that Police Chief Lanier and the District of Columbia have thumbed their noses at the Constitution and the Supreme Court decision of five years ago.

01:46:01.000 So, Police Chief Lanier, there is no difference between civil disobedience and violating the law.

01:46:06.000 But since you maintain there's a distinction, I would ask you, is your refusal to obey a Supreme Court ruling of five years ago that was made specifically about your gun laws, and your refusal to obey the Constitution that you swore to uphold, is that civil disobedience, or is that violating the law?

01:46:26.000 For InfoWars, I'm David Knight.

01:46:30.000 That was excellent work, David.

01:46:31.000 I thought it was very interesting that the D.C.

01:46:34.000 Police Chief basically said that you're free to do as you're told.

01:46:38.000 Mm-hmm.

01:46:40.000 Those were the words out of her mouth.

01:46:41.000 I mean, she had no concept of what civil disobedience means.

01:46:44.000 Disobedience, like you said, means disobeying an unjust law.

01:46:49.000 By definition, breaking the law.

01:46:51.000 She viewed civil disobedience only as lawfully approved activity.

01:46:55.000 Right, right.

01:46:56.000 Exactly.

01:46:57.000 I mean, it's almost as if, you know, if you're going to come here and have a protest I don't really want you to do that, but I'm going to tolerate it.

01:47:03.000 And that makes me such a wonderful person because I'm tolerating you speaking your mind.

01:47:07.000 Exactly.

01:47:08.000 I mean, if you go all the way back to Thoreau, the whole idea is that if you've got an unjust law, in his case he was protesting slavery and the Mexican-American War.

01:47:18.000 And he was saying, you know, if you allow these injustices to go on, you are consenting to those.

01:47:24.000 And so what he's saying is when the government is, and then that was applied to specific laws in the case of Gandhi and Martin Luther King.

01:47:30.000 You have laws that are on the books that are unlawful, unconstitutional, immoral.

01:47:36.000 I mean, the thing is, we have an obligation to fight that.

01:47:38.000 And we have 40,000 laws on the books.

01:47:40.000 The average person commits three felonies a day.

01:47:41.000 So which laws exactly are we supposed to be, are you supposed to be enforcing, or which are we supposed to be following?

01:47:47.000 Because if you really believe that you must follow the law, no matter what it says, you're going to have a long day in front of you.

01:47:47.000 Exactly.

01:47:53.000 Well, and one of the things that I found interesting about her is that The liberals like to say, don't take the text as a literal meaning.

01:48:02.000 So the liberals don't want to be literal.

01:48:04.000 They want a living constitution which basically says, if the Supreme Court says it means this, it now means this.

01:48:10.000 Regardless of how obvious.

01:48:11.000 There are no principles, it just evolves to what we want it to be.

01:48:14.000 Right, right.

01:48:14.000 So you've got a law that we can all read and we can all understand it because it's clear, but if the Supreme Court says that it means exactly the opposite, then that's what we're going to go with, the Living Constitution.

01:48:24.000 And it'll be unclear because it'll be written by lawyers and Supreme Court justices.

01:48:28.000 It will not be clear to read.

01:48:29.000 Exactly.

01:48:29.000 But in this particular case, the Supreme Court Which is her, you know, typical liberal's appeal, ultimate appeal to authority.

01:48:37.000 The Supreme Court struck down her law five years ago. 0.96

01:48:41.000 And they're not, you know, they're not, they're still enforcing that.

01:48:44.000 Yeah.

01:48:45.000 And I tried to contact them.

01:48:46.000 I sent them two emails.

01:48:48.000 I left a phone message.

01:48:49.000 I talked to someone independently.

01:48:51.000 I could not get her to talk to me about it.

01:48:53.000 So that's why I did the piece here.

01:48:54.000 I would have much rather have interviewed her and talked to her about it.

01:48:57.000 But, you know, she's not willing to defend that.

01:49:00.000 Of course not.

01:49:01.000 And you can see what she is.

01:49:02.000 She was basically a bureaucrat in a uniform. 1.00

01:49:03.000 Right.

01:49:04.000 And what a uniform.

01:49:05.000 Wasn't that a great uniform?

01:49:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:06.000 With all those stars that she had.

01:49:07.000 Yeah, she looked like Ike Eisenhower there, getting ready to land on the beaches of Normandy. 0.69

01:49:11.000 Actually, I thought she looked more like somebody out of a Gilbert and Sullivan or Marx Brothers movie.

01:49:17.000 I was thinking Spaceballs, actually.

01:49:20.000 But that's what you have, is you have a bureaucrat in uniform without a sense of irony, telling us that civil disobedience is following the law.

01:49:20.000 That's right.

01:49:28.000 I guess, well, she probably did go to public school is what it is.

01:49:31.000 And look at the way they control demonstrations, though, too.

01:49:33.000 I mean, you know, you've got controlled free speech zones when they have political conventions and everything.

01:49:38.000 They put people, literally put the demonstrators in cages.

01:49:41.000 And give them one microphone and a soapbox.

01:49:43.000 I mean, it's absolutely absurd what they do at political conventions.

01:49:47.000 It's absolutely absurd what they do at G8 conventions or anything.

01:49:50.000 You know, Rabdu was arrested a couple of years ago.

01:49:53.000 And he wasn't even, they were miles away from the event.

01:49:56.000 And they sent out an army of like 1,500 cops to bully and bludgeon and arrest a crowd of demonstrators, ironically against police brutality.

01:50:07.000 So, I mean, you know, talk about not having a sense of irony.

01:50:07.000 Oh.

01:50:10.000 They don't have a sense of irony or a sense of humor or even a sense of what's legal and illegal.

01:50:10.000 Yeah.

01:50:15.000 Exactly.

01:50:16.000 They just have a sense of what authority is telling them what to do.

01:50:18.000 Uh, on the 3D gun issue that I heard you talking about yesterday.

01:50:22.000 It was interesting that that broke just as he had already been scheduled in an interview with Alex.

01:50:27.000 And he was on the interview with Alex when he got that and so that kind of broke here and Jakari interviewed him yesterday because he's here locally at the University of Texas in Austin.

01:50:27.000 Oh really?

01:50:38.000 And we've got a clip of that.

01:50:40.000 Do you guys have that loaded up, that clip from Jakari's interview?

01:50:46.000 Okay.

01:50:46.000 We'll do that after break, perhaps.

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01:54:01.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:54:14.000 I am guest hosting today.

01:54:15.000 My name is Holland Vandernoonoff.

01:54:16.000 I have David Knight in studio discussing his reporting, some special insight on topics going on.

01:54:23.000 David, what would you like to cover next?

01:54:25.000 Well, we were talking about Cody Wilson coming in here and talking about the 3D gun issue and that sort of thing.

01:54:32.000 We had a report from Jakari Jackson.

01:54:34.000 We don't really have enough time to play that because we've got a short segment here, but you can see that on Prison Planet TV.

01:54:40.000 You can also see it probably on InfoWars.com, but certainly on the Alex Jones Channel on YouTube.

01:54:45.000 It's only about three minutes, but it's a good interview.

01:54:48.000 But it's important on a number of issues, just like you mentioned, you know, they're asserting this U.N.

01:54:53.000 Arms Trade Treaty, which hasn't even been ratified by the Senate.

01:54:57.000 Well, they're asserting it now, but a year ago that was a conspiracy theory.

01:55:00.000 The U.N.

01:55:00.000 That's right.

01:55:01.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

01:55:01.000 Treaty.

01:55:02.000 And actually... Now they're invoking it.

01:55:04.000 I believe it was a conspiracy.

01:55:05.000 I believe that Fast and Furious was a part of building up a false flag.

01:55:09.000 I mean, the New York Times has mentioned that Fast and Furious was a false flag.

01:55:13.000 I believe that they were trying to build up a narrative saying, this is why we need to have the U.N.

01:55:17.000 Arms Trade Treaty.

01:55:18.000 Yeah, they were building up that narrative.

01:55:20.000 I remember several years ago when border violence was making news, and I saw President Obama get on the news and say that the border violence was a result of, of course, guns being, you know, bought in American gun stores.

01:55:31.000 I was thinking... He just repeated that again this last week, down in Mexico.

01:55:34.000 Really?

01:55:35.000 Yeah, the same charge.

01:55:36.000 Well, he certainly has no shame.

01:55:38.000 No.

01:55:39.000 Because President Obama is responsible for the death of at least 3,000 Mexican citizens.

01:55:43.000 I'm surprised that people in Mexico are not enraged that he is in their country talking to them about gun violence.

01:55:49.000 Yeah, you're talking about that directly with Fast and Furious.

01:55:49.000 Absolutely.

01:55:52.000 Indirectly, you could say the entire Mexican drug war is American foreign policy.

01:55:57.000 Because when you look at the gun violence in American cities, for example, the Chicago police chief has said that 80% of the firearms fatalities in Chicago are drug gang related.

01:56:07.000 It's all about, it's just, you know, Same thing we had with Al Capone, driving by and shooting rival gangs with machine guns.

01:56:13.000 Exactly the same thing.

01:56:16.000 Prohibition always does that. 0.86

01:56:18.000 Quite frankly, if they prohibit guns, you're going to see that in spades.

01:56:24.000 We're not talking hypotheticals here.

01:56:25.000 Look at Chicago.

01:56:26.000 They actually have banned firearms.

01:56:28.000 You can't own a firearm in Chicago, literally, to save your life.

01:56:31.000 In one day, 20 people get shot.

01:56:34.000 Twenty people don't get shot in one day in Afghanistan, okay?

01:56:37.000 But it happens on the streets of Chicago where guns are illegal.

01:56:42.000 So why do you think, how do people think, or politicians think, that outlawing guns on a mass scale is going to solve any problem besides criminalizing guns and making every gun crime wall shoot through the roof because literally guns will be illegal?

01:56:58.000 Absolutely.

01:57:00.000 Going back to this U.N.

01:57:00.000 Arms Trade Treaty, I believe that the goal all along, for this round at least, ultimately they're after total prohibition, but their goal this time around is registration.

01:57:10.000 Yep.

01:57:11.000 Universal background checks, registration.

01:57:13.000 They need to have that before they can really do a good job of confiscation.

01:57:16.000 And I believe that the UN Arms Trade Treaty, as well as Fast and Furious, all this was targeted toward that.

01:57:22.000 And we can see now in the case of Cody Wilson that they're even asserting these same sorts of things to shut down the 3D gun stuff.

01:57:31.000 But if you look at the timing as well, the UN Arms Trade Treaty was coming up in July for a vote.

01:57:37.000 And the week before, and it was in trouble because all this Fast and Furious stuff was breaking.

01:57:41.000 So it broke, but it went the opposite way that they wanted to.

01:57:45.000 Everybody found out it was a false flag.

01:57:47.000 Just like ClimateGates.

01:57:48.000 They tried to pull off a contrived agenda and it blows up literally in their face.

01:57:54.000 So that had broken and it was interesting that exactly a week to the day before they were to have the UN Arms Trade Treaty they did the Aurora Colorado shooting happened.

01:58:05.000 Wow.

01:58:05.000 And so you know I thought that was basically going to push it over the edge.

01:58:09.000 That didn't get them any traction.

01:58:11.000 So what they did was they delayed it to after the American election.

01:58:14.000 And it looked like they were going to set it up to do it as a lame duck session, but they did it afterwards because they had big wins in the Democrats and Obama.

01:58:23.000 Exactly.

01:58:24.000 There's a methodology to the madness, people.

01:58:25.000 You're listening to it now on the Alex Jones Show.

01:58:27.000 I'm guest hosting today, Holland Vanden Nuenhoff, and we will be right back.

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02:00:24.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show, May 10th, 2013.

02:00:28.000 I'm the guest host today, Holland van den Oornhoff.

02:00:33.000 We had David Knight on with a special report on the planned armed march in DC on July 4th by Adam Kokesh and others.

02:00:43.000 Adam Kokesh obviously is a former Marine like myself, so I am following this very closely.

02:00:49.000 I respect the man very much and his courage in taking an armed march on DC not to Break the law, or to commit violence, but to demonstrate our belief in our ability to carry our firearms wherever we like, to assert our rights whenever we like, and not ask for government permission.

02:01:12.000 Because if you have to ask for permission too many times, eventually you're just going to be banned.

02:01:15.000 And that's what's happening.

02:01:16.000 And Dave Knight was right.

02:01:17.000 Registration, background checks, those are a preliminary to outright confiscation.

02:01:24.000 We're not arguing hypotheticals here.

02:01:25.000 That has happened in every nation.

02:01:27.000 That has outlawed outright firearms has been always preceded by registration or background checks and licensing.

02:01:38.000 Now you may say, well, that sounds great.

02:01:39.000 Oh, we should license firearms because they're dangerous.

02:01:43.000 They license cars also, and that does not make driving any safer.

02:01:47.000 No one is talking about banning cars.

02:01:50.000 And also, cars are not in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution.

02:01:54.000 Firearms are, for a reason.

02:01:56.000 For the very reason this government, not just this government and the United Nations, is so intent on stripping us of our right to firearms.

02:02:05.000 Why are they so intent on disarming us?

02:02:08.000 If they're not after our guns, why are they doing it, and why?

02:02:13.000 What is in the future that we're going to take such offense to, where they're going to be afraid of an armed populace?

02:02:21.000 If you cannot trust your people with firearms, then the government cannot be trusted.

02:02:25.000 And the fact that they're exerting such effort, years in the making, fast and furious, like David Knight said, was specifically planned to culminate within a certain time period, which failed.

02:02:36.000 The story blew up once again.

02:02:38.000 The information war winning out over the lie.

02:02:41.000 The story blew out just like ClimateGate right before their big conference.

02:02:45.000 It came out the emails that they had faked all of the evidence.

02:02:48.000 He's been further corroborated since then.

02:02:50.000 It's actually been a global cooling period.

02:02:52.000 I really don't want to hear the phrase global warming again for the rest of my life now.

02:02:57.000 It's gone.

02:02:57.000 It's done.

02:02:58.000 It's dead.

02:02:59.000 Or global climate change.

02:03:01.000 That's a state of being.

02:03:02.000 Anyways, same thing with gun control, with Fast and Furious.

02:03:06.000 That was planned Far in advance.

02:03:10.000 Utilizing ATF, FBI, monitoring gang members, or encouraging them to purchase firearms in American gun stores.

02:03:18.000 When those gun stores, when the owners exhibited reluctance to sell firearms to known gang members and called the ATF saying, hey man, I don't want to sell to this guy.

02:03:27.000 I got a bad feeling.

02:03:28.000 His paperwork is not up to speed.

02:03:29.000 He has a criminal history.

02:03:31.000 And I don't want to sell a gun to this criminal.

02:03:33.000 You know what the ATF told him?

02:03:34.000 You will sell him that gun or we will come to your store and find any violation.

02:03:38.000 You didn't cross an I. You didn't dot a T. We're going to take you down. 0.99

02:03:42.000 Unless you play ball.

02:03:43.000 So of course they play ball.

02:03:44.000 They sold the guns.

02:03:45.000 Those guns were moved down to Mexico over a number of years.

02:03:47.000 Thousands of them.

02:03:49.000 Those guns have been recovered from thousands of crime scenes where innocent people, victims of the war on drugs in Mexico, have been slain.

02:04:00.000 And they were slain by weapons provided by the United States government that they moved across the border into a foreign country.

02:04:08.000 And like I said, the people of Mexico need to wake up to what's really going on. 0.93

02:04:11.000 Some of them are.

02:04:12.000 They're talking about it.

02:04:13.000 But the fact that they tolerated President Obama to come over there and lecture them about gun violence when President Obama is personally directly responsible for over 3,000 deaths and serves a system that's indirectly responsible for thousands more because of the war on drugs.

02:04:29.000 He needed to be talked to about what his government had been doing in Mexico.

02:04:33.000 Not trying to tell Mexico how to stop gun violence in this country.

02:04:39.000 Anyways, you're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

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02:08:00.000 Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. .

02:08:23.000 Welcome back to the last hour of the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:25.000 I'm guest hosting today, May 10th, 2013.

02:08:29.000 My name is Holland Van Den Ouenhoff.

02:08:32.000 I've been on the show a number of times.

02:08:34.000 I guest hosted for the first time several months ago.

02:08:36.000 I had a wonderful time, and I thank Alex for inviting me back.

02:08:39.000 Apparently he wanted to take the day off.

02:08:40.000 He does have a long, hard schedule, so I'm more than happy to give him some relief and to have the honor.

02:08:48.000 To be on one of the most popular radio and news shows in the world, especially in the light of what happened after the Boston bombing.

02:08:55.000 When people have become aware, when Google searches for the term false flag attack increased a hundredfold, you know that this audience is increasing and people are waking up.

02:09:04.000 Of course, I've been asked on to host because of the special insight I've learned and gained as a researcher, writer, producer for the documentary A Noble Lie.

02:09:13.000 Oklahoma City 1995, which is about the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, the first modern expose of that event.

02:09:22.000 I highly recommend that product, if only, not only because I worked on it, but if only because I've been told more than once, and this is the greatest honor I could have gotten out of that movie.

02:09:32.000 Was that that film has provided has been a wake-up tool to so many people by the very fact when they look at Oklahoma City and they realize the weight of evidence that is contrary to the official story but yet the government and the media is still invested in the official story people realize the depth of the lie that they will engage in To cement their control.

02:09:54.000 Knowing that to be true, people can apply that to current events and view those events through that lens and perhaps not abide by whatever horrific agenda is always on the table when these deep state events occur.

02:10:11.000 This is the last hour of the Alex Jones Show.

02:10:13.000 We're going to have Jakari Jackson coming on in just a few short minutes giving a special report. 0.99

02:10:17.000 We have a number of callers on the line.

02:10:19.000 I want to get to them because they've been patient.

02:10:22.000 It looks like we have Witness in Texas.

02:10:25.000 Hello Witness, if that's your name, you're on the Alex Jones Show.

02:10:28.000 What would you like to talk about?

02:10:28.000 Thank you, sir.

02:10:30.000 I'm here to share the facts about the ongoing war by many here to define my right to speak truth to power.

02:10:37.000 In fact, Alex Jones himself Asked me by name to call in about this very subject last time I was on air here.

02:10:45.000 And back then, Austin's mayor had banned me from City Hall for trivial, nonsensical hogwash reasons.

02:10:52.000 And since then, I've been banned from the Travis County Commissioner's Court twice already.

02:10:58.000 And recently... Well, it certainly sounds like you're trying hard enough.

02:11:00.000 I congratulate you.

02:11:02.000 Well, thank you, sir.

02:11:03.000 And I've been trying to get through to talk about this ever since.

02:11:07.000 And the most recent one was Uh, the presiding Judge Biscoe of the Travis County Commission Court, he banned me for four months, meaning 16 weeks.

02:11:19.000 I'm an involved citizen.

02:11:20.000 I go every week, and this is for five years now.

02:11:22.000 I have a better attendance record than even the judge.

02:11:25.000 Well, you know, if every citizen out there is a thing, there was a lesson from the Gulag Archipelago, where a prisoner decided to fight back against the system by basically filling out every single piece of paperwork there was.

02:11:39.000 It was all legal.

02:11:40.000 He was simply playing the system by its own rules, and basically brought that whole camp To a halt, because every prisoner around him was writing letters to certain bureaucrats, certain officials that had to be answered, had to go through a process.

02:11:53.000 The whole system in that region ground to a halt by weight of paperwork.

02:11:57.000 Now, if we as citizens actually just get on the ground and get involved in every aspect of civil, meaning government life, that would bring the whole thing to a grind right now, which is why probably they find your obstinance so unnerving.

02:12:13.000 Hallelujah, that's exactly true, and friends are starting to come.

02:12:19.000 I was told by a couple of friends that they would actually come to the Travis County Commission Court and speak on my behalf.

02:12:26.000 That didn't happen, but scheduling conflicts came up, but they're going to help me.

02:12:33.000 There are more people who are helping me on this, and again, my big crime was just, I They're there to speak on an item on the agenda.

02:12:42.000 Exactly.

02:12:44.000 All they want is rubber stamps.

02:12:45.000 They just want rubber stamps.

02:12:46.000 They don't want qualified debate.

02:12:47.000 They don't want the citizens asking questions.

02:12:50.000 They want a rubber stamp on what agenda they wish to implement.

02:12:54.000 And if a citizen stands up, even in the halls of city council, and begins to exercise his civic duty in this day and age, that citizen can become a problem very quickly.

02:13:04.000 That's exactly right.

02:13:05.000 It was $25 million of taxpayer money that they were planning on just giving away on yet another boondoggle here.

02:13:15.000 And it was my turn to speak.

02:13:17.000 I was sitting up there for a half hour taking notes on all these government officials who were making excuses.

02:13:22.000 And it was my turn to speak and the judge said, OK, Mr. Reefer, see, do you have anything relevant to say?

02:13:28.000 I mean, I was sitting there for a half hour and obviously I had three pages of notes.

02:13:34.000 But when I questioned his questioning me, you know, he went, he defied the quorum by not letting me speak.

02:13:41.000 It was my time to speak, he interrupted me with an illogical question, and I threw it back at him. 1.00

02:13:47.000 Well, by golly, Judge, isn't that a little bit, you know, idiotic? 1.00

02:13:51.000 And I didn't call him an idiot. 1.00

02:13:53.000 That's not wise to insult a judge in his own courtroom. 0.98

02:13:56.000 Is there another, is there an upcoming event you're going to be attending, speaking at, you need to raise support for?

02:14:03.000 Yes sir, I go every Tuesday and that is every weekly meeting of the Travis County Commissioner's Court and they start at 9 and I need, we all need more people to show up.

02:14:14.000 There you go.

02:14:15.000 I'll speak on my behalf or just I mean, he doesn't have that role to define me, my constitutional rights, because he didn't like the question I was going to ask.

02:14:24.000 Well, you know what?

02:14:25.000 If you give up and go home, he will win.

02:14:28.000 So keep up your fight, and keep on fighting, because you know what?

02:14:31.000 It's not just your liberty, it's everyone's liberty at stake.

02:14:33.000 I have very good friends of mine who are fighting for the liberty of everyone in court, risking their own freedom, and I commend you all.

02:14:39.000 Thank you for calling in, Witness.

02:14:41.000 Bless you.

02:14:42.000 Thank you, sir.

02:14:43.000 We'll get to the next caller in a second.

02:14:45.000 It's a very good point, fighting back on the local level.

02:14:49.000 The political game on the national level, on the big level, that's fixed.

02:14:52.000 We saw that with the Ron Paul campaign in both presidential elections.

02:14:57.000 Where the will of the people was and how the establishment responded by literally stealing elections, stealing conventions, locking doors on people, behaving in childish manners to preserve their stranglehold on the way we educate our environment, our so-called democracy.

02:15:15.000 So knowing that, that the national game is fixed, how do we fight back?

02:15:19.000 On the local level, everywhere.

02:15:21.000 Because they can control the national level.

02:15:24.000 What they cannot control is mass insurrection in every city council, in every county commissioner's meeting.

02:15:30.000 They cannot control that, which is why they don't tell you the power you can exercise in those chambers.

02:15:36.000 You really want to mess up the system, go local.

02:15:39.000 Anyways, let's go to our next caller, Anne-Marie of Illinois.

02:15:42.000 Hello, Anne-Marie.

02:15:43.000 Welcome to Alex Jones Show.

02:15:45.000 What would you like to talk about?

02:15:47.000 Well, I was hoping that Alex Jones was on today so I can tell him thank you.

02:15:52.000 I'll pass it along.

02:15:54.000 I'm sorry?

02:15:54.000 I'll pass it along.

02:15:55.000 He needed to take a day off, you understand?

02:15:57.000 Yeah, I do.

02:15:59.000 He's, you know, he's got so much on his mind.

02:16:03.000 I do live in Illinois, and I'm very, very aware of what's going on here, and I've always questioned certain things, but certain people always says, like you say on the radio, conspiracy theory.

02:16:16.000 But I've always been that person, like, in the matrix where you're half-asleep and half-awake.

02:16:22.000 You know, I just came back from Illinois, Anne-Marie, on a project and I've never been to that state.

02:16:27.000 I am returning, not by choice, but for the project.

02:16:30.000 And I was amazed at the police state presence outside Chicago.

02:16:35.000 That is Obama land. 0.50

02:16:37.000 I mean, I grew up in Oklahoma, I've lived in Texas and lived in a couple different places around the world.

02:16:42.000 But I've never seen on a highway in America, or no, a street in America, within a quarter mile, three different police officers just standing there by the side of the road, pointing a radar gun at traffic.

02:16:53.000 Nothing else to do.

02:16:55.000 Outside the murder capital of the world, where 20 people get shot in a day.

02:16:59.000 The police are literally just lazing every car that goes by.

02:17:03.000 Every intersection, as far as I could tell, had a red light camera.

02:17:07.000 Now, I don't know if that's the new standard in America.

02:17:09.000 I live in Oklahoma, like I said, and we're kind of behind the times, for better or worse.

02:17:15.000 But I was shocked.

02:17:16.000 Every intersection had a red light camera.

02:17:19.000 And the people were not safer.

02:17:20.000 They certainly were not happier.

02:17:22.000 They, in fact, it's the most stratified society I've ever seen.

02:17:26.000 The people were at war with one another.

02:17:28.000 And I couldn't wait to leave.

02:17:31.000 That's how they want it, and that's how it is, because it's normal.

02:17:36.000 We consider it normal.

02:17:37.000 We never really ride down Lakeshore Drive and see that gun and think it wasn't normal.

02:17:43.000 So that's the brainwashing.

02:17:45.000 I hope it never becomes normal where I live, but if things keep on going, I'm sure they will.

02:17:50.000 Well, I am a citizen that's awake.

02:17:53.000 And like you say, they don't like us awake, they like us asleep.

02:17:56.000 And I hate the fact of, you know, governing people with control.

02:18:01.000 I am not from this country.

02:18:03.000 I wasn't born here, but I am a citizen of this country.

02:18:07.000 And anything Alex Jones speak about, I do my research on.

02:18:11.000 Because I don't take people at face value.

02:18:15.000 I have to know what they're about and do your research.

02:18:18.000 People wake up.

02:18:21.000 Simple.

02:18:23.000 Well, I thank you for calling in, Anne-Marie.

02:18:25.000 Sorry about that.

02:18:26.000 I had a bug in my throat.

02:18:27.000 Is there anything else you'd like to talk about?

02:18:30.000 Um, just I hope that your listeners are listening and I hope that more people like me start to wake up and realize that we are in control and we need to voice our opinion.

02:18:41.000 And I hope that, especially from my community here in Illinois, realize that this is all a game.

02:18:49.000 Well, people are waking up, Ann Marie, and even in Illinois, which is the heart of the beast in many ways, your efforts are even needed more directly.

02:18:59.000 You are behind enemy lines.

02:19:02.000 And your efforts, like a commando behind enemy lines, are felt even more effectively.

02:19:07.000 And I thank you for calling in and I thank you.

02:19:09.000 Thank you guys.

02:19:11.000 Let's go to the next caller.

02:19:13.000 Peter from Boston.

02:19:14.000 This is regarding the Boston bombings.

02:19:15.000 Let's get some eyes on the scene in Boston with Peter.

02:19:19.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

02:19:21.000 Thank you very much, Holland.

02:19:22.000 And I've seen bits of your documentary and it enlightened me in a way as part of my waking up process.

02:19:28.000 So thank you for that.

02:19:29.000 I want to talk about the congressional hearings yesterday.

02:19:31.000 Okay.

02:19:32.000 Hey, Peter, you know what?

02:19:34.000 I want to talk to you about this, but we're coming up on break and we'll get you right on the other side.

02:19:39.000 Is that all right?

02:19:40.000 Yes.

02:19:40.000 Excellent.

02:19:41.000 It's regarding the bombings.

02:19:42.000 We want to listen to what you have to say about that.

02:19:42.000 Excellent.

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02:19:47.000 I am guest hosting.

02:19:48.000 My name is Holland Van Denuenhoff, and we'll be right back after these messages.

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02:24:16.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:24:17.000 In a few minutes, we're going to have Jakari Jackson on with a special report. 0.93

02:24:20.000 That'll be interesting, I'm sure.

02:24:22.000 As of now, we're taking your calls.

02:24:23.000 We have Peter from Boston, who's going to offer his insight on the Boston bombing.

02:24:28.000 So, Peter from Boston, welcome to the Alex Jones Show again.

02:24:30.000 Thank you for holding over the break.

02:24:32.000 What would you like to discuss?

02:24:34.000 Well, first I want to start by saying I agree with Alex's scenario of the suspects being CIA operatives.

02:24:44.000 It's not a scenario, that's an analysis.

02:24:46.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:24:47.000 Go ahead.

02:24:47.000 I do agree with Alex on that, but I want to talk about the hearings yesterday because I think this is where we'll see the agenda starting to play itself out.

02:24:54.000 I want to make five quick points.

02:24:56.000 This is what I took from watching the hearings.

02:24:59.000 There seem to be three agendas, five agendas.

02:25:02.000 The first one is that they want to eliminate the police jurisdictions that separate radio communications between different small town departments and other town departments.

02:25:13.000 Do you think they want to do that to restrict people listening in on those communications?

02:25:17.000 They want to open up, they want to be able to override the small town.

02:25:23.000 Police radio transmissions so that they could, for instance, call for a stand-down.

02:25:28.000 The Watertown police were the first to arrive at the boat, and I think that they're responsible for saving that kid's life, because if they hadn't been there, I don't know if he'd be alive today.

02:25:36.000 Like I said... That's the one thing they want to do.

02:25:38.000 Go ahead.

02:25:39.000 They want to criminalize not reporting if your neighbor, your friend, your spouse, or your parents don't express anti-government sentiments.

02:25:49.000 Well, they're already talking about it in Florida, where they're saying that if your neighbor hates the government, I want to know that man's name.

02:25:56.000 Exactly, or you're liable for a crime.

02:25:58.000 The third point is that they want to monitor the Internet and people's use of the Internet to visit anti-government websites.

02:26:06.000 Yeah, they're talking about the self-radicalization, once again blaming an inanimate object, the Internet, as being responsible for this terrorist act.

02:26:15.000 They want to be able to censor the internet, and they want to be able to promote the demonization of Islam. 1.00

02:26:22.000 And I think, more than anything, they want to promote the demonization of Islam.

02:26:26.000 And I think that... Well, it fulfills the purpose.

02:26:29.000 It justifies the continued war on terror.

02:26:32.000 It justifies the continued crackdown on our liberties.

02:26:34.000 They're going to milk the Muslim excuse as far as they can, as long as it is effective. 1.00

02:26:42.000 And I cannot imagine the fear that good, honest Muslim Americans are feeling as a result of all this bashing of themselves and their religion. 0.50

02:26:51.000 But you know, I also believe that everything that they're accusing the Islamists of, they themselves are guilty of. 0.97

02:26:56.000 And by they, I mean these...

02:26:58.000 Infiltrators into every vector of influence in the United States government and including the media and publications for the last hundred years.

02:27:07.000 And I think you know which group I'm talking about.

02:27:08.000 Yeah, they're trying to engineer a clash of civilizations, they've talked about this, by demonizing the Muslim world.

02:27:15.000 And it's working.

02:27:16.000 Exactly.

02:27:16.000 Again, accusing them of all the things that actually they themselves are guilty of.

02:27:20.000 These infiltrators.

02:27:23.000 And they're in every level, in every place, in every organization, in every charity, and they have essentially taken over every vector of influence that we're exposed to as Americans at home.

02:27:36.000 I just want to quote James Forrestal, who was mysteriously found dead.

02:27:42.000 Hanging from a hospital sheet from his hospital room.

02:27:46.000 Yes.

02:27:47.000 He was the first Secretary of Defense and he said no group in this country should be permitted to influence our policy to the point it could endanger our national security.

02:27:57.000 And I believe there is a group that has infiltrated, again, every vector of influence.

02:28:05.000 And I think that group needs to be identified.

02:28:06.000 And not to identify it is to do nothing but slash at the branches and not the root of the problem.

02:28:13.000 That's my opinion.

02:28:14.000 That's where I'm coming from.

02:28:17.000 Peter, I appreciate your eyes on the ground in Boston, your insight, the fact that you're awake, and for calling in.

02:28:22.000 Thank you very much.

02:28:23.000 Thank you.

02:28:24.000 Excellent.

02:28:27.000 Yes, Peter actually had a good point.

02:28:29.000 The Watertown Police Department which showed up and arrested the second Chechen brother in that boat, his point was they were probably not supposed to be the responding department and they probably saved that young man's life because they were not the hit team.

02:28:43.000 I revealed earlier on the show for the first time that the arresting officer in that case was actually a brother of mine in the Marine Corps.

02:28:53.000 I was his squad leader.

02:28:55.000 And he has not been interviewed by Anderson Cooper as a member of the Watertown SWAT team.

02:29:00.000 In fact, he was in the Caribbean at that time, so they sent him away.

02:29:02.000 And he's not been allowed to talk to me or anyone else.

02:29:05.000 Well, he's gotten some word out.

02:29:06.000 I've been able to confirm some information, but then the Attorney General for Massachusetts issued a verbal gag order.

02:29:15.000 And he's no longer allowed to talk about what he saw.

02:29:18.000 But the point about the radio communications was, yes, the Watertown SWAT team showed up.

02:29:22.000 Perhaps they weren't supposed to show up, because I have no doubt that that kid in the boat was not supposed to live to tell his tale.

02:29:29.000 Anyways, you're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

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02:33:00.000 You are listening to an Infowars.com Frontline Report.

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02:33:34.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:36.000 I'm your guest host, Holland van den Nieuwenhoff.

02:33:39.000 Thank you for joining us.

02:33:40.000 We have a number of callers on the line.

02:33:41.000 Before we go back to them, we have Jakari Jackson in studio.

02:33:43.000 How you doing, Holland?

02:33:44.000 Outstanding.

02:33:45.000 A fellow Okie.

02:33:46.000 Yes.

02:33:47.000 It's finally great to meet you in person.

02:33:49.000 Yeah, I think I was here when I interviewed back in July or August, you guys were here, but I didn't get a chance to talk to you because you were live on air, and then I had to run out to the airport.

02:33:58.000 But, you know, it's nice to meet you in person.

02:34:00.000 I had a chance to interview you.

02:34:01.000 You were one of the first interviews I had when I got down here to Austin, so it's nice to meet you in person.

02:34:06.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:34:07.000 It's an honor to meet everyone here at the InfoOperation.

02:34:10.000 A lot of talent behind the scenes.

02:34:11.000 I'd like to thank the staff behind the scenes for their support and everything else.

02:34:15.000 You were going to bring up a number of topics.

02:34:17.000 Apparently there is a video that's going viral.

02:34:20.000 Yes, this is one of the top videos on YouTube right now.

02:34:23.000 This was actually sent to me last night.

02:34:25.000 Had a chance to review it.

02:34:27.000 It's a very interesting piece.

02:34:28.000 I'm pretty sure a lot of people have already had it.

02:34:30.000 Had a chance to see it if you're savvy on YouTube.

02:34:32.000 It's the clip of a student.

02:34:33.000 He's in class and he basically tells his teacher that she doesn't know how to teach.

02:34:37.000 It's a very interesting clip.

02:34:38.000 Then I want to talk a little bit about this and maybe some homeschooling things as well.

02:34:42.000 But let's go ahead with that clip. 0.98

02:34:44.000 If you would just get up and teach them instead of handing them a freaking packet, yo. 0.95

02:34:49.000 There's kids in here who don't learn like that. 0.96

02:34:51.000 They need to learn face to face.

02:34:53.000 You're just getting mad because I'm pointing out the obvious.

02:34:56.000 No, I'm just wasting my time.

02:34:57.000 No, I'm not wasting your time.

02:34:59.000 I'm telling you what you need to do.

02:35:00.000 Get out.

02:35:01.000 You want kids to come into your class?

02:35:02.000 You want them to get excited for this?

02:35:04.000 You gotta come in here, you gotta make them excited.

02:35:07.000 You want a kid to change and start doing better? 0.97

02:35:09.000 You gotta touch his freaking heart. 0.98

02:35:10.000 Can't expect a kid to change if all you do is just tell him. 0.98

02:35:15.000 You gotta, you gotta take this job serious.

02:35:18.000 This is the future of this nation.

02:35:20.000 And when you come in here, like you did last time, and make a statement about, oh, this is my paycheck.

02:35:26.000 Indeed it is.

02:35:28.000 But this is my country's future and my education.

02:35:31.000 Can you go outside, please?

02:35:34.000 But there's a limit.

02:35:36.000 When I'm not... But simply making an observation.

02:35:41.000 And now I will leave.

02:35:43.000 You're welcome. 0.96

02:35:45.000 And if you would like, I'll teach you a little more so you can actually learn how to teach a freaking class.

02:35:51.000 Because since I got here, I've done nothing but read packets. 0.81

02:35:55.000 So don't try and take credibility for teaching me, Jack.

02:36:00.000 Now Holland, that was a very interesting clip, I thought so, because, you know, I had a chance, I was very fortunate, I got to go to one of the better schools within my city, so I can't say I can actually relate to his particular situation, but we see a lot of that with the No Child Left Behind and so on, and the guy says in the clip, all you do is you hand us packets, you don't teach us anything, you don't engage us in any way, you just give us, you know, the school gives you these packets and you give them to us.

02:36:21.000 Yeah, that kid didn't mention No Child Left Behind, but that's exactly what that is.

02:36:24.000 I've talked to Teachers are working now teaching kids and they say we're not allowed to teach.

02:36:29.000 Right.

02:36:30.000 All we do is just hand information so they can pass the test.

02:36:33.000 And it's basically pass the test.

02:36:35.000 That's all they do.

02:36:36.000 They're trying to change them, to train them to pass the test, not to think critically, to get any type of real skills that will help them in actual life.

02:36:44.000 It's just read this packet and take the test.

02:36:46.000 That's pretty much all they're trained to do.

02:36:47.000 Well, that's the purpose of public education is not to create an enlightened, inquisitive, active citizenry who's going to be vigorous in defense of their rights.

02:36:57.000 It is to create corporate cogs and political minions who will do what they're told.

02:37:02.000 That is the purpose of public education.

02:37:03.000 That was his founding in Prussia, in Germany.

02:37:06.000 They openly talked about, we're going to have a stratified education system.

02:37:10.000 One class for the peasants, one class for the managers, one class for the elite.

02:37:13.000 We see that played out to this day.

02:37:15.000 And if people happen to become educated in the public educated system, that's just an unintended consequence.

02:37:21.000 Yes, and actually since you bring up those foreign areas, let's take a look at this article right here if we can get a dot cam.

02:37:26.000 Americans warn homeschooling is stripped of rights.

02:37:28.000 Now this is from earlier in this month, but it's still very relevant.

02:37:32.000 Recently, U.S.

02:37:33.000 Attorney General Eric Holder once again has said that homeschooling is not a parent's right.

02:37:40.000 It is a statement that some are saying should frighten American parents.

02:37:43.000 Nations like Germany and Sweden show that the government's take away homeschooling rights.

02:37:48.000 It's a slippery slope with no parental rights.

02:37:52.000 Eric Holder.

02:37:53.000 We gotta love that guy.

02:37:54.000 He's providing us with a really... He's staying pretty busy.

02:37:56.000 A lot of good material he gives us.

02:37:58.000 I mean, from Fast and Furious to anything else and now he's talking about... Now he's taking a stand on homeschooling.

02:38:03.000 Yes.

02:38:04.000 So, yeah, I really respect his stand on homeschooling.

02:38:07.000 Well, Eric Holder obviously is a tool of the establishment through and through.

02:38:10.000 That's how he got his start in the Department of Justice covering up the Oklahoma City bombing back in 1996.

02:38:13.000 He wasn't involved from the beginning, but he was brought in afterwards to manage the cover-up.

02:38:18.000 And now he's brought back as Attorney General, just in time to manage Fast and Furious.

02:38:22.000 Now he's issuing statements on this about homeschooling.

02:38:24.000 Yeah.

02:38:25.000 And you want to take your advice from this guy.

02:38:27.000 And people always bring up the question, like, why do you blame Obama or Eric Holder or whoever?

02:38:32.000 I mean, when you look at a guy like Eric Holder, who is purposely withholding documents that could get to a deeper level of Fast and Furious, if nothing else, he's guilty of that.

02:38:41.000 You know, even if maybe he wasn't.

02:38:42.000 He's been censured by Congress.

02:38:44.000 Yeah, maybe he's not a wily coyote pushing down the plunger on the dynamite, but the guy is withholding critical information.

02:38:49.000 He's the cover-up artist.

02:38:51.000 He's not the executioner.

02:38:52.000 He is the one put in place to cover up everything and to make sure that any inquiries will be frustrated by his position as Attorney General.

02:39:01.000 Exactly and it's just more we see the war on the homeschoolers war on People just want to educate the children themselves like because I heard some of the guys talking they have very young children now And I was asking one of the guys well when your child gets old enough to go to school What are you gonna?

02:39:14.000 Do he's like well?

02:39:15.000 I guess I'm just got to send him out to school and just detox and when they get back home And it seems like a very laborious process You know you send your kid out there for you know eight hours a day or so then they come home like okay almost everything They told you was a lie You know, that's pretty much the situation.

02:39:28.000 Well, 2 plus 2 does equal 4, but everything else, there's an agenda button.

02:39:31.000 Well, even that!

02:39:32.000 Yeah, well, that's the thing, is 2 plus 2 equals 4 may not be the same always, according to 1984.

02:39:36.000 Yeah, so, I mean, that's the situation people are dealing with, and I know we have some calls, and we'll get to those in just one second.

02:39:42.000 I definitely want to have people's opinions on this, on the homeschooling front, on the clip we just showed with the student, and just get everybody's opinions on these matters.

02:39:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:39:51.000 Let's go to the callers.

02:39:52.000 I'd like to relate one story first.

02:39:53.000 I have a very good friend of mine who's an Oakland City school teacher.

02:39:55.000 He spent a couple years in the business and he finally came to me and he said, you know what?

02:39:59.000 I think I found out what my job was.

02:40:00.000 I said, what? 0.99

02:40:01.000 I think my job is to keep poor people dumb. 1.00

02:40:05.000 Because he's not allowed to teach these inner city kids. 0.99

02:40:07.000 Not allowed at all.

02:40:08.000 And I said, I think you're onto it.

02:40:10.000 That's pretty much what it is to keep the status quo as it is.

02:40:15.000 And to effectuate control of the whole society.

02:40:17.000 That is the purpose of public education, and he is learning the hard way.

02:40:21.000 Yeah, and a lot of teachers get blamed, and I mean, just like the teacher we saw, from what I understand, that was the actual teacher, not some substitute teacher, was the person I was told.

02:40:30.000 Yeah, I mean, it seemed like a substitute teacher.

02:40:32.000 They come in, you know, okay, I'm teaching math today, I'm teaching something.

02:40:35.000 Here's a packet, I'm gonna be on my laptop.

02:40:37.000 Yeah, that's pretty much what it is.

02:40:39.000 But the teachers take a lot of heat for this, but a lot of people don't know that the teachers can't really actively engage.

02:40:44.000 I mean, she didn't seem too engaged herself, but let's say if it was a teacher who was interested in the materials and the students' well-being, you know, they can't actively engage them on that level to really boost up the children.

02:40:56.000 No, you're going to be rapidly frustrated if you're an earnest teacher like my friend.

02:40:58.000 He joined out of good instincts to teach his community, to raise the next generation, and he's totally frustrated in his efforts and he's come to the conclusion that his job is to stratify society.

02:41:09.000 And he's waking up.

02:41:11.000 Anyways, we have a number of callers.

02:41:12.000 I don't want to leave them out.

02:41:14.000 We'll take, Jakari and I, we're going to take your calls and talk about what you want to talk about.

02:41:17.000 We have Jamie from Tennessee going to discuss 3D guns.

02:41:20.000 Welcome, Jamie, to the Alex Jones Show.

02:41:23.000 You'd like to talk about 3D guns.

02:41:26.000 Yeah, that's correct.

02:41:27.000 I also want to comment real quick on Zakari's statement about No Child Left Behind.

02:41:33.000 I'm 23 years old and I have a 5-year-old son.

02:41:36.000 I'm about $60,000 in debt because I've kept him in school since he was 3 months old in the local college here.

02:41:44.000 They have a child division there.

02:41:47.000 Back to the No Child Left Behind part, I'm sorry I was jumping out of the way there.

02:41:54.000 I was raped and molested for more than 10 years of my life and moved throughout foster homes, foster homes, a residential facility, to group home.

02:42:04.000 During this no child left behind period when the law was put into place, I was actually in school.

02:42:11.000 What this did for someone like me or anyone else who's been abused throughout their past They pretty much put you in what's called a behavior modification class.

02:42:22.000 If you've had any sort of traumatizing events, they put you in what's called a behavior modification class.

02:42:28.000 It's actually called behavior modification?

02:42:31.000 Behavior modification.

02:42:32.000 Wow, at least they're not being shy about it.

02:42:35.000 They seclude you completely from the school.

02:42:38.000 And this is just an example.

02:42:40.000 This is my example.

02:42:41.000 This is actually what happened to me.

02:42:42.000 While I was in this foster care agency, I went to another county and left the jurisdiction of the county which the behavior modification was housed in.

02:42:52.000 When I went to this other county for foster care, they put me in a normal school.

02:42:55.000 Did they keep you drugged up on Big Pharma psychotropic drugs?

02:43:00.000 Absolutely.

02:43:02.000 Psychotropic drugs, Seroquel, Trazodone, Lithium, Adderall.

02:43:06.000 What you'll find often is that these CPS agencies are actually farming out these children, selling them as lab monkeys basically, to big pharma, testing drugs on them, testing the long-term results of heavy exposure to big pharma.

02:43:20.000 So that is what they're doing, literally selling these children.

02:43:23.000 Absolutely.

02:43:25.000 And during my four years in this... I'm sorry, let me go back.

02:43:28.000 While I was in the school with normal kids, I did absolutely fine.

02:43:33.000 I had no altercations whatsoever.

02:43:35.000 I actually excelled in school.

02:43:37.000 When I went back to the jurisdiction and completed my foster care program, in the amount of time, the minimum amount of time that you could complete it in, I went back and showed them the progress that I had made.

02:43:48.000 And they said, no, that's too bad.

02:43:49.000 You didn't do it in our county, under our eyes.

02:43:52.000 It doesn't count.

02:43:53.000 I said, okay.

02:43:55.000 So I spent three more years in this behavior modification class that has eighth grade books.

02:43:59.000 Whether you're 12th grade or eighth grade, you study the same books every single year.

02:44:04.000 Wow.

02:44:05.000 So really, the child is completely left behind.

02:44:08.000 They act like you're not left behind.

02:44:10.000 And even the kids who do act out in school.

02:44:12.000 Now me, for instance, you give a 14-year-old kid 300 milligrams of Steroquil a morning, And then 300 milligrams at lunch.

02:44:20.000 By the time I even get on the bus, I'm nodding out so hard that it's like a morphine drip.

02:44:25.000 I can't stay awake.

02:44:27.000 So I get to school, lay down my head, and then I'm disobeying direct orders.

02:44:32.000 And they call the police on you.

02:44:34.000 Well, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

02:44:36.000 They feed you full of drugs.

02:44:37.000 This leads to unproductive behavior, which you're then penalized for, which leads to more drugs.

02:44:42.000 This is the whole system.

02:44:43.000 It's self-feeding.

02:44:44.000 Yeah, and I'm only a few years older than the caller, but I saw many kids on drugs when I was in school.

02:44:49.000 I'm not necessarily saying they got them.

02:44:51.000 No.

02:44:52.000 Because of the school but you know behavior problems at home or whatever the case may be and they come in they're doped up like so they have trouble paying attention they're acting out in class even the kids who may not may have not had such a adverse reaction to the medication there they kind of have this placebo effect you know they think if I take this drug or if I don't take this drug I'm just gonna act wild so they just come in and just act wild.

02:45:13.000 I was talking to some young people, some friends of mine, and they were relating the fact that street drugs are really no longer even used in high schools.

02:45:21.000 Not really.

02:45:22.000 It's all pharma.

02:45:23.000 It's all pharma.

02:45:24.000 I'm only a few years older than the caller.

02:45:25.000 But, you know, maybe some marijuana, but other than that, most of it was...

02:45:30.000 It's all big pharma drugs.

02:45:32.000 They sell from their parents or their cell.

02:45:33.000 I was shocked, surprised.

02:45:34.000 I mean, and that's what they want.

02:45:36.000 They want everyone hooked on pharma from a young age because these are behavior modification drugs.

02:45:43.000 Well, if they're behavior modification drugs, they can modify your behavior to a desired end.

02:45:47.000 Now, you did have a question about the... Go ahead.

02:45:47.000 Exactly.

02:45:53.000 Jakari, I just want to let you know that about three months ago I was listening to InfoWars and I'm not too sure where I had heard about it yet.

02:45:59.000 Was Alex ever on a radio show called Coast to Coast AM?

02:46:02.000 Yes, he's been on there several times.

02:46:04.000 Okay, okay, okay.

02:46:05.000 So, I started to wake up in 2011 and pretty much fell back asleep with, you know, Pfitzer and Purdue University cramming their medication down my throat.

02:46:16.000 I woke up about three months ago to you, Jakari, and I just want to say I appreciate everything you guys are doing.

02:46:22.000 and all the info warriors out there that are getting the info out and just doing their part to wake this up.

02:46:28.000 I definitely appreciate that, sir.

02:46:30.000 Thank you so much, Shikari.

02:46:32.000 And I just have one question, and I'll take my answer off the air to get the next caller in line.

02:46:36.000 What do you all think?

02:46:40.000 I saw the statement on InfoWars that Obama gave the stand down order in Benghazi. 0.68

02:46:46.000 Do you all think that this is, I mean, he's already, in my opinion, a tyrant traitor.

02:46:53.000 and has been, and I don't believe he was ever eligible to be the president of the United States.

02:46:57.000 Do you all think that this will change the public's view if this goes viral and they actually, big media does start picking it up?

02:47:06.000 Actually, in my opinion, this is big media.

02:47:08.000 InfoWars is big media.

02:47:09.000 Do you all think that this will change the public's opinion?

02:47:12.000 And I'll take my answer off there.

02:47:13.000 Thank you.

02:47:14.000 Well, to address your first thing, talking about did Obama get the standout order, we actually have a document made from the .cam guys.

02:47:22.000 This is on InfoWars right now by Paul Joseph Watson.

02:47:25.000 Congresswoman Obama gave Benghazi stand-down order.

02:47:28.000 Now this is referencing a, you can take a look at that, Holland, I don't know if you had a chance to see it yet.

02:47:33.000 This was referencing a congresswoman who was on a radio show and she was asked, you know, you've dealt in foreign relations and so forth.

02:47:41.000 Who could give in order to have a stand down like this?

02:47:44.000 And she said, the only person I know of is the president.

02:47:47.000 Actually, her definitive statement was, she was asked, because you have been an ambassador, you have been overseas with similar responsibilities and similar missions.

02:47:55.000 Who gives such an order to stand down?

02:47:57.000 Where does that come from?

02:47:58.000 The answer from the former ambassador, the President of the United States.

02:48:03.000 Yes.

02:48:03.000 So that's pretty black and white, and the White House is not denying this, they're just not answering the question.

02:48:09.000 So that leads us to believe that Obama was directly involved in issuing that stand-on order, which led to the deaths of four Americans.

02:48:16.000 Yeah, and I don't think this is just a incompetence deal.

02:48:20.000 I mean, people knew about it.

02:48:22.000 They let it happen.

02:48:23.000 Some people may have been actively engaged in things such as stand-downs.

02:48:26.000 As far as the caller's other point, will this help wake up the American people?

02:48:31.000 Maybe.

02:48:32.000 The thing I've found... The people are going to have to wake up themselves.

02:48:35.000 Yes.

02:48:35.000 The thing I've found to be most effective, because we get a lot of calls, how do I wake up my cousin or my aunt or my dad or whoever, is I tell people, tell your friend or whoever to set their own line.

02:48:45.000 When it hits this bad, I'll come back and tell you, and don't make an excuse for it, this is what you said, when it gets this bad you'll wake up, you'll write your congressman, you'll call out Obama or whatever the case may be.

02:48:56.000 Yeah, just write down something ludicrous that you don't think will ever happen and give it about three months in a will, and then come to me and let's talk.

02:49:02.000 Exactly.

02:49:02.000 Yeah.

02:49:03.000 Thank you for calling in.

02:49:05.000 We'll go to our next caller, Eric from Tennessee.

02:49:08.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show, Eric.

02:49:10.000 It looks like you want to discuss the NATO arms agreement.

02:49:13.000 Welcome to the show.

02:49:15.000 Thanks, guys.

02:49:16.000 Great to talk to both of you.

02:49:17.000 Great to meet you for the first time.

02:49:19.000 You're doing a great job hosting today.

02:49:20.000 I just thought I'd throw that in there.

02:49:24.000 Thank you very much.

02:49:28.000 The printing of the gun blows my mind.

02:49:31.000 I mean, the fact that they can throw that in there.

02:49:34.000 Well, they view it as a threat, obviously, because now that the ability to disseminate that information to print a gun anywhere you like is out there, now they're shutting it down because it is a direct assault on the long-term plan to affect the market for guns.

02:49:51.000 Exactly.

02:49:52.000 And even more than that, when we had Cody Wilson, I'll let you finish, Collin, but I just want to throw this point out there.

02:49:55.000 We had Cody Wilson on the show last night, and he said this isn't just an attack on guns, this is an attack on information.

02:50:01.000 Because this information goes onto the internet, and they're trying to censor this internet site, so it's beyond guns.

02:50:06.000 It's just something that they think they can target safely, or, you know, safely to an extent.

02:50:11.000 Because you'll have the soccer moms and other people, I don't want people with printable guns, so that's how they start, and then it's going to be the next thing, then the next thing, then they don't want you making whatever in your house.

02:50:18.000 But go ahead and make your point, Collin.

02:50:21.000 Well, the thing about what I was thinking, and it's the first thing I thought about yesterday when I was listening to Alex, and he called in and said that they had shut him down.

02:50:30.000 The first thing that popped into my head was, well, if he was to limit his site where it could not be accessed worldwide, if it could only be accessed inside the United States, then at that point it would no longer be an export.

02:50:45.000 Well, I'm sure Cody's a pretty smart guy, actually he is, and I'm pretty sure he's going to outsmart the government bureaucrats on this one also.

02:50:51.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he has something up his sleeve.

02:50:54.000 I'm not exactly up on the legal aspects of it.

02:50:57.000 Well, thank you, Eric, for calling in.

02:51:01.000 We're going to break right now.

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02:54:19.000 I'm your guest host today.

02:54:21.000 May 10th, my name is Holland Vanden Heuwenhoff.

02:54:24.000 I'd like to remind my audience who I am.

02:54:26.000 I served in the Marine Corps as a rifle squad leader.

02:54:29.000 I continue to serve my country in exposing the truth.

02:54:32.000 I was a writer and producer for a documentary called A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City 1995, which is available at the Infowars store.

02:54:39.000 I highly recommend you pick that up.

02:54:41.000 I've been told more than once that it has been proven a valuable wake-up tool to the so-called uninitiated to this evidence.

02:54:48.000 For those who have been resistant to this information.

02:54:51.000 That's very well done.

02:54:52.000 I want to tell you this story.

02:54:53.000 I know we have callers, and I'll try to be brief.

02:54:55.000 I was taking a criminal justice class back in Oklahoma right before, it was actually right before I got this job at Infowars, and I was in the class, about 40 people.

02:55:04.000 Some of these people go in for advanced degrees and so on, and I engaged the professor, and I asked him about Oklahoma City bombing.

02:55:11.000 And we started talking about, not just Timothy McVeigh, but the other people out at LOM City.

02:55:15.000 And in a class of about 40 people, this is a night class, you know, a lot of older people, professionals.

02:55:20.000 I'm probably one of the youngest people in the class.

02:55:21.000 I'm probably like 25, 24 at the time.

02:55:24.000 Well, I guess 25.

02:55:26.000 And he says, you know, concerning LOM City, he said, I think you and I are the only people in this room who know what you're talking about.

02:55:33.000 And a room full of criminal justice majors.

02:55:35.000 You know, because even people in Oklahoma don't know about this information I'm finding out.

02:55:39.000 Yeah, Ellewing City, of course, is a neo-Nazi compound in eastern Oklahoma, which, by the way, was a federal honey trap.

02:55:45.000 The founder and leader was making $400 a month.

02:55:48.000 We have the paperwork, $400 a month, as an informant while he's running one of the largest neo-Nazi communities in the country.

02:55:55.000 What does that tell you?

02:55:55.000 That that so-called movement is largely funded By the federal government who invents these bogeymen to justify their existence.

02:56:04.000 But regarding Oklahoma City, Jakari, that's a good point.

02:56:08.000 The fact that that operation has existed in eastern Oklahoma without any kind of security, without people knowing about it.

02:56:14.000 Tells you that if it was a real threat to the establishment, it wouldn't be there.

02:56:18.000 It serves a purpose.

02:56:19.000 Exactly, exactly.

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02:56:41.000 So let's get to our callers before we leave.

02:56:45.000 We have Adrian from California.

02:56:47.000 Adrian, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

02:56:49.000 What would you like to talk about?

02:56:51.000 Hi, this is Adrian Lomeli.

02:56:55.000 I'm a first-time caller.

02:56:56.000 Excellent.

02:56:58.000 And I just wanted to say thank you to everyone Pushing the cause and everyone's effort for bringing down the criminal organization that we call the United States government.

02:57:12.000 And along with all the great points today that everybody's taken in, I want this point kind of out there for people to just think about and indulge in.

02:57:22.000 Just an example of mainstream media madness, I guess.

02:57:30.000 A lot of things I've seen with the attacks on Alex Jones and Infowars on the Rachel Maddow Show.

02:57:35.000 Oh yeah, they're attacking him in the mainstream and that's good because they can't ignore this operation.

02:57:39.000 It seems like every day we're flipping through the mainstream channels and they're talking about Drudge and they're talking about Alex or even Dan Badandi sometimes, you know what I'm talking about.

02:57:46.000 But at least people are getting our attention, but please go ahead, sir.

02:57:50.000 Yeah, totally.

02:57:52.000 I've noticed a big change in people as soon as Alex was on Piers Morgan and all that.

02:58:00.000 Like people say, at first they deny you, they deny you it's even existing, and then they call you crazy, and they're just really nervous, and they are shutting down in a lot of ways of their thinking, I guess.

02:58:13.000 We're seeing it played out, and history rhymes as well as repeats.

02:58:17.000 Anything else, Adrian?

02:58:18.000 Yeah, I just wanted to say that I've seen the attempts of the mainstream media to push the libertarian movement strictly on, like, the conservative side, which I agree is an arm of that, but I kind of feel like they're pushing InfoWars' Alex Jones to the right wing.

02:58:36.000 Oh, they're trying to pigeonhole him.

02:58:38.000 We're about out of time.

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