Alex Jones Show - 20130516_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:11.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:36.000 It is Thursday, the 16th day of May, 2013, and we are going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:41.000 2013, and we are going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:47.000 Joseph Curled, White House correspondent and reporter for The Washington Times and DrudgeReport.com, will be joining us to give us his take on all the unfolding, exploding scandals.

00:01:00.000 Then Kevin Booth has had Warner Brothers pick up his American Drug War II.

00:01:05.000 I consulted and worked on American Drug War I, and this one gets into what the drug war is doing to children, And I'm told by people that have seen it, I haven't seen it yet, it's going to come out on, I think it's HBO, absolutely tear-jerking and really exposes the phony drug war.

00:01:19.000 Again, I don't like drugs, folks, they destroy a lot of people.

00:01:22.000 The drug war is meant to keep the prices up, to put money into the drug war for the big banks and others.

00:01:28.000 Drugs should be not shown as sexy, but as loser-ish.

00:01:33.000 Kevin Booth's going to be joining us, and his film actually does that.

00:01:36.000 Larry Pinckney, founding Black Panther, their communications director of the original Black Panther Party, who saw all the COINTELPRO firsthand.

00:01:46.000 We flew him in.

00:01:46.000 He's here in Austin.

00:01:48.000 He's being interviewed for an upcoming film.

00:01:49.000 He's going to be in studio with us in the third hour today.

00:01:53.000 So, Joseph Kurl, Kevin Booth, and Larry Pinckney today.

00:01:56.000 That said, I told you that my gut told me that this Benghazi Gate thing, after I really saw it explode last week, And now the IRS gate and the spying gate and the harassment of the whistleblowers, the torture coming out of Benghazi, that's what's really serious.

00:02:17.000 That report a month ago that was in the New York Times, but just in the back of the paper, that a congressional bipartisan committee found war crimes of George W. Bush and Obama.

00:02:28.000 That's a big part of this.

00:02:30.000 There's ongoing torture.

00:02:31.000 In fact, Obama has expanded it according to all of our sources and evidence that's come out.

00:02:36.000 I mean, they are torturing at more than a hundred sites around the world that are known.

00:02:42.000 Thirty-something in Iraq, two in Guantanamo Bay.

00:02:49.000 They have a big camp and another camp within it.

00:02:51.000 Two sites there.

00:02:52.000 They're torturing in Egypt and a bunch of sites in Romania, in Poland, in Ukraine. 0.74

00:02:59.000 In Georgia, and in the United States, reportedly, and other locations.

00:03:04.000 And it is hard core.

00:03:07.000 And again, it is not, quote, real terrorists that are being tortured.

00:03:11.000 It is people for fake confessions, you name it.

00:03:14.000 You cannot believe a word.

00:03:15.000 You know, it's like when our pilots would get shot down by Northern Vietnam and then a year later appear on North Vietnamese TV, you know, and film releases saying we're evil, we target civilians on purpose, you know, we drop this and that.

00:03:27.000 A lot of it wasn't true.

00:03:29.000 Everybody knew you don't listen to that.

00:03:31.000 It's not admissible.

00:03:32.000 Because they admittedly use torture.

00:03:35.000 They put you in a cage smaller than your body for a year.

00:03:38.000 And by the way, everybody breaks, ends up saying whatever they want them to say.

00:03:44.000 Most people would break in a few hours, buried alive, stuff like that.

00:03:49.000 And that's what goes on at Guantanamo Bay.

00:03:53.000 That's what goes on at the camp within it, the CIA base.

00:03:58.000 That's what goes on at these places.

00:04:00.000 And some of these guys are so tough, like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, waterboarded hundreds of times, that he would not break and confess to things he hadn't done until they brought his kids in and started to go to work on them.

00:04:14.000 And then he said, look, I'll say whatever you want.

00:04:18.000 I'll say whatever you want.

00:04:20.000 And he confessed to bombing buildings that were built four years after he was in custody.

00:04:25.000 He was in custody seven years before he broke.

00:04:29.000 Seven years of torture.

00:04:34.000 Seven... You say what you want about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, whoever that double, triple agent really is, but tough as nails. 0.77

00:04:45.000 Oh man, I tell ya.

00:04:46.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:47.000 We're going to get into all of it.

00:04:50.000 This is big.

00:04:50.000 This whole thing's big.

00:04:52.000 It's all unraveling very, very quickly right now.

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00:08:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, the 16th day of May, 2012. 12.

00:08:28.000 I am your host, Alex Jones, and we are going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:08:32.000 Joseph Curl, senior writer and White House correspondent for the Washington Times, also Drudge Researcher, DrudgeReport.com Researcher, will be popping in.

00:08:44.000 At the bottom of the hour via the road via cell phone to give us the latest inside.

00:08:49.000 He's got all the inside sources on how serious and how big all of this is.

00:08:55.000 The word he gave me is it's going to be the IRS stuff and the spying that's going to probably bring down Obama.

00:09:02.000 Not Benghazi.

00:09:03.000 Now that's when I talked to him yesterday.

00:09:04.000 We're going to see the latest info he's got at the bottom of the hour.

00:09:08.000 Kevin Booth has got his new American Drug War 2 being put out by Warner Brothers, coming out soon.

00:09:15.000 Very powerful.

00:09:16.000 I haven't seen it, but I've talked to people that have seen it, and there's not a dry eye in the house.

00:09:20.000 It shows what the drug war does to kids.

00:09:22.000 That is all coming up, and Larry Pinkney, former communications director for the original Black Panther Party, to talk about government dirty tricks and more, will be in studio with us.

00:09:34.000 He's here to be interviewed for the Obama Deception Part 2.

00:09:37.000 That's why he's in town.

00:09:38.000 We flew him in yesterday.

00:09:39.000 He got in last night.

00:09:41.000 We've got new Boston bombing info.

00:09:44.000 We've got amazing, the good, the bad, and the ugly on the Second Amendment front.

00:09:49.000 We have Russian government putting in a war fleet in the Mediterranean in an escalation to Syria situation.

00:09:57.000 Israel says they will bring down Assad and he retaliates for future airstrikes.

00:10:01.000 It's like we're going to bomb you now and if you fight back in any way we're going to basically blow your whole country up. 0.77

00:10:06.000 I think that's reasonable. 0.99

00:10:07.000 I think Syria should be nuked and every man, woman and child killed and Al Qaeda should be put in charge. 1.00

00:10:13.000 And I think Israel is right to be doing that. 0.98

00:10:16.000 So there you go, I support Israel 110%.

00:10:18.000 It's a little bit of satire there.

00:10:20.000 I mean, it just shows how all these governments are completely out of control.

00:10:24.000 And it's even in mainstream news now, like, I was on some of the Israeli news sites and the people there are going, why are we putting Al-Qaeda in there?

00:10:32.000 Why are we doing this?

00:10:33.000 I mean, Assad's not doing anything to us.

00:10:35.000 I mean, I'm not a fan of Assad, but...

00:10:38.000 The Jews in Israel, in the Jerusalem Post and Harots and all the others in Times of Israel, go read the comments.

00:10:47.000 About half of them are going, what on earth is going on here?

00:10:53.000 What is happening here?

00:10:57.000 So even the Israelis don't like what's happening and going on on that front.

00:11:02.000 We're going to be getting to all of that.

00:11:05.000 But when I talk about rats leaving the sinking ship, when I talk about things like that, I'm here on air, it's a Thursday radio broadcast, and I'm about to go live a few minutes ago, and I think to myself, what do I cover first in this scandal?

00:11:29.000 Here's the bottom line.

00:11:31.000 I figured that you would see more of a Benghazi whitewash. 0.99

00:11:36.000 Because if the Republicans got into the open lies, where the system has been caught red-handed, Covering up, ordering a stand-down, their own security force attacking the facility, the stand-down, the fact that they got caught lying about the stand-down, now they've put out selected emails to try to cover their trail and say that they knew nothing.

00:12:03.000 If the Republicans went with that, which they never do, because they don't want to bring down the whole system because they're so tied into it, If they went into any areas of truth on Benghazi, it would bring down Obama.

00:12:14.000 So I said, I don't expect them, and I'm rarely wrong, and I was wrong last week, last Wednesday with the testimony, or was it Tuesday?

00:12:22.000 I said, I don't expect them to really get into this, and they're just gonna say it was a screw-up, and they were incompetent, and try to score some political points.

00:12:30.000 But because the witnesses bucked the gag orders and the threats, and went ahead and told the truth, This whole thing blew up in the establishment's face, and now Boehner and people that were basically, you know, involved in a giant whitewash, they are now being forced to talk about, you know, criminal investigations, arrest, an IRS gate, you name it.

00:13:01.000 Because there's total credibility hemorrhaging going on right now and there's not much blood to run out of this thing left.

00:13:07.000 The globalists are in shock.

00:13:09.000 They're in trouble.

00:13:10.000 This happens throughout history and so many times people just can't believe that a tyranny has a fall or that tyranny gets damaged.

00:13:19.000 Tyranny is in serious trouble right now.

00:13:23.000 It's flailing around, and if we intensify the attack, instead of standing back and watching the spectacle, if we just fire everything we've got at them politically, with the truth, and keep pounding, and keep discrediting, it's going to give other cowards in the media political cover who don't like what's been going on and who have a conscience, it's going to give them cover to have more of a swarm attack on the corrupt system.

00:13:52.000 And if we get them on Benghazi and IRSgate and Spygate and all this, it's over folks.

00:13:57.000 It will give other people courage.

00:13:59.000 They've been trying to intimidate all the whistleblowers.

00:14:02.000 Government's been coming down with both feet trying to shut down any opposition to corruption.

00:14:07.000 They've been trying to have a reign of intimidation.

00:14:10.000 And the minute that dam breaks, which is starting to happen, it will cause a flood that could really bring real reform to this country.

00:14:20.000 But you're going to have to decide that you have power.

00:14:23.000 You're going to have to decide, I'm not even talking to our audience, they know that.

00:14:26.000 I'm talking to mainstream media that listens to this show.

00:14:29.000 You're going to have to decide that you don't want to be total mouthpieces anymore.

00:14:35.000 And you've also got to stop being so arrogant and still thinking that you're able to bamboozle the public.

00:14:41.000 Because a lot of you are... 0.99

00:14:43.000 sociopathic in your business dealings. 1.00

00:14:45.000 You may not even be totally sociopathic, but you behave like sociopaths. 1.00

00:14:49.000 And some of you are not just sociopaths, you're psychopaths. 0.99

00:14:52.000 But even a cold-blooded psychopath would not want to be involved with this new world order unless you have a death wish. 1.00

00:14:59.000 And some of you are very, very dark.

00:15:01.000 You're in love with darkness and you're enjoying the spectacle of globalism.

00:15:07.000 But that's a very small percentage of people.

00:15:10.000 Maybe Maybe one-tenth of one percent are really, really French kissing the devil and really know what they're into. 0.97

00:15:20.000 Most of you are cowardly that serve evil and you recognize its power and so you think by embracing it you're going to get power when all you turn into is a chicken neck slave by serving it. 0.96

00:15:31.000 Okay? 0.97

00:15:32.000 And if you had good natures in you, you would have known that real power is in goodness, but that you wouldn't be good for the power sake.

00:15:44.000 Because with great power comes great responsibility.

00:15:46.000 But I'm going to stop preaching.

00:15:50.000 I was initially wrong because I'm just so used to the system whitewashing everything.

00:15:55.000 This is blown up.

00:15:56.000 That testimony was real.

00:15:57.000 It was epic.

00:15:58.000 It was historical last Thursday, last Friday as all that broke.

00:16:02.000 And now...

00:16:04.000 The power structure is in major damage control.

00:16:08.000 They may stage new wars, they may stage new terror attacks, and even if they did something giant, the cat is out of the bag, the genie's out of the bottle, the horse left the stable, the train left the station, Humpty Dumpty fell off the wall, and all the king's horses, all the king's men aren't going to put it back together again.

00:16:26.000 It is the best of times, the worst of times.

00:16:30.000 It was a time of great knowledge and of incredible foolhardiness, to paraphrase A Tale of Two Cities.

00:16:38.000 You guys actually print me or put up on screen the opening of A Tale of Two Cities.

00:16:42.000 I don't want to butcher that citation.

00:16:46.000 The issue here is it is the best of times, the worst of times.

00:16:48.000 That's how the universe works.

00:16:50.000 As great evil rises, great good rises.

00:16:54.000 For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

00:16:57.000 It's quantum mechanics.

00:16:58.000 But all the ancients knew this.

00:17:00.000 And so, as evil tries to take over, it actually opens windows for good to come in and shift the script.

00:17:11.000 There it is.

00:17:12.000 It was the best of times.

00:17:13.000 It was the worst of times.

00:17:14.000 It was the age of wisdom. 0.95

00:17:16.000 It was the age of foolishness.

00:17:18.000 It was the epoch of belief. 0.92

00:17:20.000 It was the epoch of incredulity.

00:17:23.000 It was the season of light.

00:17:24.000 It was the season of darkness.

00:17:26.000 It was the spring of hope.

00:17:27.000 It was the winter of despair.

00:17:29.000 We had everything before us.

00:17:31.000 We had nothing before us.

00:17:33.000 We were all going direct to heaven.

00:17:36.000 We were all going direct to hell.

00:17:39.000 Oh, man!

00:17:41.000 Ooh, the classics.

00:17:43.000 I mean, does that not say everything right there?

00:17:46.000 Ooh, I mean, how could anybody not be incredibly energized right now?

00:17:56.000 But the minute I saw those deputy ambassadors, the minute I saw the head of anti-terrorism for the State Department, the minute I saw them with tears in their eyes, but steel in their jaws, and the courage to tell the truth, and the minute I saw the goosebumps on their skin, and I saw that, just like you can see it on me right now, the minute they stepped into the truth, It was like an electrical charge connected and I went, whoa, I was wrong.

00:18:26.000 This is the fall of Obama if you want it.

00:18:29.000 But it's more than the fall of Obama.

00:18:30.000 It is a chink in the armor. 1.00

00:18:32.000 Take that crowbar and just rip it in and reach in there to the heart of the New World Order.

00:18:38.000 Tear it out.

00:18:40.000 Because I'm telling you, ladies and gentlemen, People don't believe they have power.

00:18:44.000 They don't believe the great can fall.

00:18:46.000 They believe these crooks in government with their con man confidence game, facade of false chutzpah, bravado, machismo, aplomb, whatever you want to call it, it is just that.

00:18:59.000 It is a facade.

00:19:01.000 They are scared.

00:19:04.000 They live lives of fear and insecurity.

00:19:11.000 Now, here's what I'm talking about.

00:19:14.000 They excise two days of the emails, and there's emails in there, in this fake data leak they've done to cover up Benghazi and act like they didn't do anything, with Petraeus saying, I don't like what you've done.

00:19:23.000 That's why they got rid of him.

00:19:25.000 Just as our sources said back in October.

00:19:27.000 Wow, they were all on target.

00:19:30.000 And now you've got congressmen saying the Justice Department cloakroom was wiretapped.

00:19:37.000 Yeah, that's what Senators and people are saying a lot more is about to come out. 0.81

00:19:43.000 And you've got rats running.

00:19:45.000 We've got slimeball Chris Matthews saying he doesn't like Obama anymore. 0.97

00:19:52.000 And you've got absolute minion Bill Press saying it.

00:19:55.000 I mean, that is the signal that the rodents are running in fear.

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00:24:01.000 So, Bill Press, the globalist minion, ...has now come out and said that Obama is just horrible, basically, and that Attorney General Eric Holder should step down.

00:24:27.000 The Atlantic Wire, that is basically the official White House, one of its official White House propaganda organs, is calling for Holder's head, or saying it's imminent, that he's going to have to step down after his, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I'm not a crook, Nixon 2.0.

00:24:46.000 Or Nixon squared.

00:24:48.000 You've got the guy that said he gets excited, tingle up his leg into his groin area when he hears Obama talk. 0.96

00:24:56.000 That's pretty disgusting imagining. 0.95

00:24:59.000 Slimeball and Obama hanging out. 0.82

00:25:01.000 He says he doesn't get the tingle anymore.

00:25:03.000 So there you go.

00:25:04.000 He does not get aroused when watching and listening to Obama.

00:25:10.000 So there you go. 0.81

00:25:12.000 And that's kind of the meter, the canary in the coal mine, is that Chris Matthews is not aroused in his groin region when Obama is on television.

00:25:22.000 I mean, that's kind of like the cooking timer.

00:25:22.000 That's it.

00:25:25.000 Ding!

00:25:26.000 All right, Chris Matthews does not want to date Obama anymore.

00:25:30.000 It's all, or whatever it means to have a tingle up your leg.

00:25:33.000 I don't, pretty much everybody thinks that means we're twinkle in the eye.

00:25:37.000 I don't know what, I mean I have a little bit of humor here because this is so out of control, but of course the NSA and Justice Department is tapping Congress.

00:25:44.000 They've caught MI6 and MI5 tapping Parliament in England.

00:25:49.000 This is the illegitimate bureaucracy tapping the real government.

00:25:53.000 The bureaucracy tells Congress they can't see the Homeland Security Directives.

00:25:57.000 They tell the Homeland Security Committee, you can't see PDD 51.

00:26:02.000 You can't see our orders for civil unrest.

00:26:05.000 That's dictatorship right there, folks.

00:26:07.000 The central government is now run by foreign interests that control the President, and they're out of control.

00:26:13.000 But the routing of these people has begun, and here is the Congressman Devin Nunes on a radio show.

00:26:22.000 I don't trust the Department of Justice on this.

00:26:23.000 of the Weekly Standard, as it's been out since last night, saying that they were tapping the cloakroom.

00:26:30.000 The cloakroom, which is where they go into the little office areas and sit around and talk on the telephone or talk to each other.

00:26:38.000 Let's go ahead and go to that clip.

00:26:39.000 I don't trust the Department of Justice on this.

00:26:42.000 Do you, Congressman Nunes?

00:26:43.000 No, I absolutely do not, especially after this wiretapping incident, essentially, of the House of Representatives.

00:26:52.000 I don't think people are focusing on the right thing when they talk about going after the AP reporters.

00:26:57.000 The big problem that I see is that they actually tapped right where I'm sitting right now.

00:27:03.000 Wait a minute, this is news to me.

00:27:05.000 I have no idea what you're talking about.

00:27:07.000 So, when they went after the AP reporters, right, went after all of their phone records, they went after the phone records including right up here in the House gallery, right up from where I'm sitting right now.

00:27:19.000 So, you have a real separation of powers issue here that, you know, did this really rise to the level that you would have to get phone records that would most likely include members of Congress?

00:27:29.000 Because as you know, members of Congress talk to the press all the time.

00:27:32.000 Wow!

00:27:32.000 I did not know that, and that is a stunner.

00:27:36.000 It's a separation of powers issue and it's a freedom of press issue and now you've got the IRS going after people.

00:27:42.000 So these things are starting to cascade one upon the other and you have the White House pretending like they're in the clouds, like it's not their issue somehow.

00:27:52.000 There you go, ladies and gentlemen, and that was Hugh Hewitt's radio show.

00:27:56.000 I think I've been on that show.

00:27:57.000 So, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.

00:28:00.000 And this is what Mitch McConnell said last week.

00:28:03.000 And on Sunday, he said, a lot more is coming out.

00:28:06.000 You ain't seen nothing yet.

00:28:08.000 We've got to come back with that liner.

00:28:09.000 You ain't seen nothing yet.

00:28:11.000 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-baby.

00:28:12.000 No, you ain't seen nothing yet.

00:28:14.000 And we could sit here and joke around about this.

00:28:16.000 This is very, very serious.

00:28:18.000 Speaking of joking around, more and more people Who have not been politically active other than through their satire, like Mike Judge, are speaking out against the New World Order, against things going on.

00:28:29.000 And that's what it's going to take is all of you that have been silent in power positions, or just out there upon the fruited plain, all of us have power.

00:28:36.000 We've got to say no to this system.

00:28:38.000 We've got to raise our voices against it.

00:28:42.000 I've talked to Mike Judge for years, you know, off and on, off the telephone and text messages and things, but we've always both been busy and I've never really bugged him, so we never hung out, but I hung out quite a bit with him this week, Monday and Tuesday, did a big interview with him.

00:28:54.000 It's about 50 minutes long.

00:28:55.000 We're going to premiere it, shot it at his house in high def video next Thursday here on the radio slash TV show, and it's going to be a news-making interview.

00:29:03.000 A lot of it's about him growing up and But also, Second Amendment, things like that, it's pretty powerful.

00:29:10.000 So I want to take you out here with Hank Hill and Beavis and Butthead via the one, the only Mike Judge.

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00:33:45.000 All right, folks, we are joined by Joseph Curl, political correspondent, White House reporter for The Washington Times, broken some of the biggest stories in the last 20 years politically, and that's why he also is one of the heavy hitters, the few, the proud, the drudges, over at DrudgeReport.com.

00:34:07.000 Who can say that?

00:34:09.000 Not, not, not many, ladies and gentlemen.

00:34:13.000 And I intro'd this with, you ain't seen nothing yet, because when you have Congressman Devin Nunes coming out and saying, look, they were spying on the cloakroom and Congress, and that's a separation of powers violation.

00:34:28.000 Well, yeah, can you imagine if the Congress was spying on the White House with illegal wiretaps?

00:34:32.000 And he's like, does that rise to impeachment?

00:34:35.000 I don't know, does Charlie Manchin cutting babies out of Sharon Tate's stomach rise to murder?

00:34:41.000 It's just, it's like, well, it is the president, you know, maybe he's allowed to, I mean, even the, even the Republicans cannot get hardcore with things that are just out in the open because our normalcy bias is to accept anything.

00:34:55.000 It's like we have mass Stockholm syndrome.

00:34:58.000 But, but let me tell you.

00:34:59.000 Political catastrophe, political Waterloo, political rigor mortis is setting in to the Obama administration with, I don't know, I don't remember, I know nothing, I'm Sergeant Schultz from Hogan's Heroes, with all of them, they're being caught lying on Benghazi, the IRS spying, the whistleblower persecutions, the wiretapping, all of it, they're in deep trouble.

00:35:25.000 And that's why you've got Bill Press saying, you know, the Attorney General needs to step down, and Obama, and Chris Matthews says his leg doesn't get the tingle up into his, you know, groin anymore over this.

00:35:36.000 And all of these people are running scared.

00:35:38.000 The Atlantic Wire, that basically is a White House organ, says, is the end of the Eric Holder's tenure at the Justice Department.

00:35:45.000 It's not enough to throw him under the bus.

00:35:47.000 Not enough to go, all of them, Okay, they need to go to jail.

00:35:51.000 These guys make Nixon look like an angel compared to the things they've done and what they've been caught doing.

00:35:56.000 And joining us is Joseph Curl of TheWashingtonTimes.com and DrudgeReport.com, the guy who really has the inside scoop.

00:36:04.000 Will it be Benghazi?

00:36:05.000 Will it be IRS gay? 1.00

00:36:06.000 Will it be spy gay? 1.00

00:36:07.000 Will it be intimidation gay? 0.99

00:36:09.000 Will it be perjury gay? 0.98

00:36:11.000 Will it be, uh...

00:36:13.000 I mean, can we bring back Fast and Furious now?

00:36:15.000 Will this bring down Obama?

00:36:17.000 And what do you expect him to try to do to stop it?

00:36:19.000 What is the inside intel directly from the belly of the beast, the District of Criminals Joe Curl?

00:36:27.000 Hey, Alex.

00:36:28.000 The most fascinating thing that's been happening so far, the thing that really intrigues me out of this whole, now this is a criminal message, but as you mentioned, Fast and Furious is still hanging out there.

00:36:28.000 Hey, buddy.

00:36:39.000 We've never really gotten any answers on that.

00:36:42.000 The most amazing thing, and it just keeps happening, is the lack of accountability from the administration.

00:36:48.000 It's really, you know, my buddy over at the Washington Post, Dana Milbank, wrote today that the holders seemed almost proud to not know anything.

00:36:56.000 You know, what you've got over in the Justice Department now is he recused himself from this whole AP, you know, seizing the phone records of the Associated Press, and he literally sat in front of the Congressman and just said, I don't know anything.

00:37:10.000 I mean, he was calling in front of Congress, and then he said for four hours, I don't know anything.

00:37:15.000 And then you've got Hillary, she's not involved in, doesn't know anything about Benghazigate.

00:37:22.000 You've got, you know, now we're hearing that the White House is trying to spin the whole IRS mess as a couple of low-level guys in Cincinnati who were just rogue operators who were doing something nobody knows anything.

00:37:36.000 The weirdest thing, and I was talking to my dad the other night about, he remembers all the way back to Eisenhower and Truman, and he was saying, you know, Terry Truman had a big placard on his desk that said, The Buck Stops Here.

00:37:48.000 Right now, we don't know where this buck stops, but what Obama keeps saying is, it sure as heck doesn't stop at me.

00:37:55.000 Well, we know where the buck stops.

00:37:57.000 I mean, Obama gets his orders from the big unions, from the big foreign banks.

00:38:01.000 He gets his orders from basically the Socialists, the Communist Party.

00:38:05.000 He gets his orders from the big tax-free foundations.

00:38:08.000 I mean, he gets his orders from the heirs.

00:38:12.000 Right.

00:38:13.000 And they're spending all of their time and effort You know, I think it's not ludicrous to start talking about Richard Nixon, because this is the classic, and I wrote a column about this a couple of weeks ago in the Washington Times, the classic conundrum of the second term.

00:38:31.000 These guys all get in messes, all the way back to Eisenhower, you know, with the U-2, and then you've had, you know, Reagan had a Ron Contra.

00:38:39.000 Clinton, of course, had Monica Miller-Lee, and you had Bush, who had his own problems and messes going on, and now you've got Now you've got Obama with this.

00:38:49.000 The biggest problem and the way you can talk about Nixon in the same breath as Obama, even though these things are just starting, is it's all a cover-up.

00:39:00.000 The cover-up of how they deal with the information once it's out there.

00:39:03.000 We're starting to hear weird little things that, you know, this IRS stuff was actually known years ago within the IRS and weeks ago at the White House, but nothing ever really came out of it until right before The reason they eventually put this out or put it out when they did was that the Inspector General's report was about to come out.

00:39:23.000 They knew it was about to break anyway, so they had to dump it.

00:39:26.000 So, yeah, it's just very strange what's happening.

00:39:30.000 And it really makes me wonder, you know, this is an administration that hasn't really had any scandals.

00:39:38.000 All of a sudden, they've got three scandals going at the same time.

00:39:42.000 And I think I sent you a message the other day saying, you know, Benghazi is the big one.

00:39:47.000 And it wouldn't surprise me if they had these scandals hanging around, and they just dumped them out to try and storm the real scandal, which is Benghazi.

00:39:57.000 Yeah, and then we talked on the phone, you said Benghazi is the big one, but you were saying, at least a few days ago, you expect the IRS deal to be the one that actually could bring them down.

00:40:07.000 Yeah, well, I mean, that's the one that really crosses over, you know, that does get right into Nixonian stuff.

00:40:13.000 That's what Nixon was doing.

00:40:15.000 Nixon was using the IRS to literally target his enemy.

00:40:19.000 He was telling the IRS to go out and get my enemy.

00:40:24.000 Now, you know, the real question is going to be, where does this come down on?

00:40:28.000 And, you know, guys, presidents have gotten better and better at pausing with the liability and not leaving any fingerprints on anything.

00:40:37.000 So the question is, will this ever be traceable back to Obama?

00:40:40.000 And the answer is probably not.

00:40:44.000 The thing that's most striking to me is, you know, this is a culture now, a culture of corruption that's endemic to this administration and administration-wide.

00:40:56.000 I mean, we're seeing it across all these different agencies.

00:40:59.000 You know, when you have the Justice Department coming in and saying, I don't know what's happening, you have the Attorney General saying, I don't know what's going on in my own building.

00:41:07.000 I don't know what happened that night in Benghazi.

00:41:10.000 You've got the IRS.

00:41:11.000 We don't know what happened.

00:41:12.000 The President doesn't know what happened.

00:41:14.000 You've got the Secretary of State saying, I don't really know what happened that night in Benghazi.

00:41:18.000 You've got the IRS.

00:41:19.000 We don't know what happened.

00:41:20.000 The President doesn't know what happened.

00:41:22.000 Nobody seems to know what's going on.

00:41:24.000 Well, by the way, Joseph Curl, they have a new witness.

00:41:27.000 Hillary and Eric Holder and all of them announced they're going to have a special spokesman now testifying for them.

00:41:34.000 And he's going to come on the show with us right now.

00:41:36.000 This is the White House's statement on any further scandals.

00:41:40.000 Oh, I see nothing.

00:41:42.000 I was not here.

00:41:43.000 I did not even get up this morning.

00:41:47.000 So there you go.

00:41:48.000 That's the new White House press secretary.

00:41:54.000 Well, it was really shocking yesterday.

00:41:58.000 I loved that CNN and MSNBC, they were still doing their OJ reports and their little light-hearted things.

00:42:05.000 And here you've got the Attorney General testifying saying, I don't know what's happening in the Department of Justice.

00:42:12.000 I don't know what's going on there.

00:42:13.000 I had it, but I have no idea what's happened.

00:42:15.000 And by the way, as you know, just over the weekend they were arrogant saying it's no big deal.

00:42:19.000 Democrats were defending it on MSNBC.

00:42:22.000 Good, we need to persecute Tea Parties. 0.94

00:42:24.000 Now they've just sacked the IRS Commissioner today.

00:42:27.000 Now Democrats, what does it signify to have Chris Matthews of Slimeball, to have Bill Press, to have all of the Atlantic Wire running from Obama and Holder right now?

00:42:39.000 Are we seeing the beginning of a rout?

00:42:41.000 What is the atmosphere there in DC?

00:42:45.000 Well, that's another fascinating part of it.

00:42:49.000 Whatever I think of the media and what they did in the second re-election campaign, the coverage that Obama got.

00:42:58.000 I mean, remember, we had unemployment hovering around 8.5%.

00:43:01.000 The economy is terrible.

00:43:04.000 Everything that Obamacare is going to be a nightmare.

00:43:08.000 Everything that was happening really should have been, you know, failed for a president trying to get re-elected, but the media was the one that, you know, unified behind Obama to continue to sell him.

00:43:20.000 I think what is beginning to happen right now is the media is starting to look at this president and go and say collectively, boy, we backed a big-time loser, and if we don't get off this guy pretty soon, we're all going to go down with him.

00:43:36.000 You know, I would like to say that Bush's presidency was the worst ever.

00:43:42.000 It certainly wasn't.

00:43:44.000 And I think we might really, literally be looking at one of the worst presidencies in the last several years.

00:43:49.000 I mean, we're going to end up, right now the recession is longer.

00:43:53.000 Then the depression, the Great Depression, it's longer than the recession that followed the Great Depression.

00:43:59.000 The job numbers are terrible.

00:44:02.000 And then we've got all this corruption and all this crazy stuff going on.

00:44:06.000 Could you say this is the I-know-nothing administration?

00:44:09.000 Because they say, oh, the economy's great.

00:44:11.000 They lie about everything.

00:44:13.000 And why do you think suddenly things are turning against them?

00:44:17.000 I mean, I agree with you.

00:44:18.000 There was kind of a hope that other scandals that they think are more survivable, other than lying about a stand-down so people can be killed.

00:44:24.000 But, I mean, even that, going from crisis to crisis, I have a sense from afar watching this that this could really end in the impeachment of Obama, you name it.

00:44:36.000 I mean, what's your gut?

00:44:39.000 Well, that's what's been really interesting to me, and I think you tried to do a message on the IRS, thinking that was a really big one, but it was before I really started to think about the way this is going to play out, and we're seeing it play out right now.

00:44:54.000 I mean, yesterday, Obama was trying to look like the take-charge guy.

00:44:59.000 He makes it sound like he's just heard about this, even though we're hearing that he actually knew about it for several weeks in the White House.

00:45:07.000 So, what he does is he comes on TV, yes, last night, and he says that he asked his Treasury Secretary to request the resignation from the IRS head.

00:45:20.000 Now, the IRS head, he's only the acting head of the IRS.

00:45:23.000 He's only been in there for a while, and his term was ending in June anyway.

00:45:28.000 So, I wasn't really thinking how this thing plays out.

00:45:31.000 So, what you have there is you've got a low-level, do-nothing guy who's not really responsible for this.

00:45:38.000 He now loses his job.

00:45:40.000 And they're going to end up fobbing the rest of this stuff off on these rogue IRS agents in Cincinnati.

00:45:49.000 So, that scandal is going to come and go.

00:45:51.000 And you've got On the phone records scandal, you're basically going to have, I mean, maybe this Deputy Attorney General will be canned over at the Department of Justice, but Eric Holder's going to, it looks like right now, stay above this whole fray.

00:46:08.000 I doubt that Obama's going to kill his good buddy over there and let him go.

00:46:14.000 So, these things will play out for several more months, but in the end, we're probably just going to have some lower-level guys fall on their swords and disappear, and that's what's starting to make me wonder if...

00:46:26.000 This isn't all there to obscure Benghazi.

00:46:32.000 No, but I tend to agree with you.

00:46:33.000 I mean, that's when we talk on the phone.

00:46:34.000 That's what I think is going on, is Benghazi, there was a stand-down.

00:46:39.000 A bunch of the military were there and witnessed it.

00:46:41.000 Now they're putting out selective emails with two-day gaps.

00:46:45.000 I agree with you.

00:46:46.000 It's Benghazi that is really what they're afraid of.

00:46:50.000 What's the word on that?

00:46:51.000 Are they going to get away with that as well?

00:46:52.000 Or will they politically Be destroyed and be a total lame duck now, but criminally get away with it and just kind of drift into the future?

00:47:04.000 Yeah, I do think, I mean, you know, remember that that was more than six months ago, on September 11, 2012.

00:47:11.000 So, the media couldn't care less about that story until the Weekly Standards, Stephen Hayes, pulled all that stuff up and threw that out there, you know, about the emails and about the, you know, who was saying what at the time, about the video and about the spontaneous demonstration, which never, you know, neither of those were ever involved.

00:47:33.000 The really interesting thing is going to be, that's what I've been noticing, is how do they change this subject from Benghazi?

00:47:42.000 Because Benghazi is reaching critical mass now.

00:47:45.000 So how do we get off Benghazi?

00:47:46.000 Well, let's throw them a couple of scandals that will really consume Washington. 0.91

00:47:52.000 And Washington, far more interested in the IRS scandal, because they're newer, and the phone scandal.

00:47:59.000 Then they are in Benghazi.

00:48:01.000 And then the last thing that's fascinating is the White House, you know, they have—they don't know anything about—you know, the White House spokesman doesn't know anything about the APD phone scandal and pushes that over to the Department of Justice.

00:48:15.000 They're outraged over the IRS thing, and they're taking action on that.

00:48:20.000 But on Benghazi, they dismissed it as just a political wish-on.

00:48:24.000 And that, again, strikes me as that's what they want.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, no, no.

00:48:28.000 Their jihadis killed everybody and they ordered a stand-down and a bunch of missiles are missing and finally Fox News was covering that over the weekend.

00:48:37.000 So, you know, my gut tells me, Joe Curley in Washington Times joining us, my gut tells me though that They'll be lucky if they're just politically destroyed and then powerless for three years.

00:48:48.000 But I don't even see that happening.

00:48:50.000 I smell blood in the water, and I think even starting new wars is not going to politically get them out of this.

00:48:57.000 I see a total loss of confidence in them. 0.97

00:48:59.000 All the Democrats I know finally hate Obama and finally are apologizing to me for saying he's a crook.

00:49:06.000 I mean, you're more of a journalist, so you stick to what you can 100% prove. 0.66

00:49:10.000 I'm a journalist and a pundit, and I can say as a pundit, I think Obama is politically rotting.

00:49:19.000 What do you say to that?

00:49:20.000 Well, I think that's absolutely right.

00:49:22.000 I think, you know, there was question as to whether he was really ever going to get anything done.

00:49:29.000 Because remember, he's the one who's created this poisonous atmosphere in Washington.

00:49:35.000 He's the one who has literally spent four years haranguing Congress and blaming everything on Congress.

00:49:41.000 Well, now he needs Congress, and you're right.

00:49:43.000 Even some Democrats now are starting to shift on Obama and abandon him.

00:49:49.000 So, yeah, I think politically he's gone.

00:49:51.000 I think it's, you know, he's not going to get anything to Congress again.

00:49:56.000 And I think this immigration thing is going to fall apart. 1.00

00:49:59.000 I think he wants to get done, going to fall apart, because you're beginning to see, even Democrats are beginning to wonder about this guy, and they don't.

00:50:10.000 don't have his back anymore.

00:50:11.000 And that's the problem that Obama always had, is that he's been so aggressively critical of Congress that he doesn't really have any friends over there.

00:50:21.000 He doesn't talk with them often.

00:50:22.000 He doesn't meet with them privately.

00:50:25.000 Yeah, I thought Bush vacationed a lot. 0.90

00:50:27.000 Obama's vacationed something like double what Bush did and seems completely disconnected and arrogant.

00:50:32.000 Well, if you notice, and I'm sure your listeners have noticed, That has also been kind of the talking point that's been coming out of Washington is He's so bright, he's so intellectual, but he has this problem that Spock has of just being disengaged.

00:50:48.000 He's not emotional because he is so intelligent.

00:50:50.000 Tell you what, Joe Curl, The Washington Times and DrudgeReport.com, do six more minutes with us.

00:50:55.000 On the other side, I want to come back and finish up this thought and ask, what's the other big scandals that Mitch McConnell talks about?

00:51:00.000 What are those?

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00:54:05.000 You know, I think the degeneration of Obama and how they tried to sell all this collectivist tyranny is trendy.

00:54:17.000 I just think there's a total collapse in confidence in it.

00:54:20.000 And that's going to go for Republicans as well if they don't deliver liberty. 0.94

00:54:23.000 That's why Ted Cruz is rising like a rocket.

00:54:27.000 Rand Paul is rising because they're delivering.

00:54:30.000 And the empty demonization, calling Ted Cruz a bully, calling Rand Paul a kook for pointing out the U.N.

00:54:35.000 treaty, puts the U.N.

00:54:37.000 over our guns, it isn't working anymore, and you were finishing up your Spock point, and then I wanted to ask you, what's the next big scandals on the radar and other tidbits, Joe Curl, of DrudgeReport.com and TheWashingtonTimes.com?

00:54:52.000 What else do you expect to see?

00:54:53.000 What other key nuggets would you like to reveal to the listeners?

00:55:00.000 Well, I will tell you that, um, when I tweeted this out a couple of days ago, I have a person at the CIA who said, there's another shoe to drop.

00:55:07.000 And I asked him, you mean there's a fourth shoe?

00:55:09.000 And he said, yeah, at least a fourth shoe, maybe a fifth shoe.

00:55:11.000 So there, there are things out there.

00:55:13.000 I mean, I think you're, I think, It's not inconceivable that there will be something to this whole, you know, apparently the phone records that were subpoenaed not only had to do with the Associated Press, but had to do with their phone lines in various different places, including in the house, and including phone calls that may or may not have been made from the house cloakroom.

00:55:38.000 Now, the house cloakroom is where You know, members of Congress, members of the House will go to really do the inside behind the scenes horse trading where they really talk about, they really talk far more candidly than they do on the floor.

00:55:54.000 probably than they do in lots of other caucus meetings and things like that.

00:55:58.000 This is where they get out of the nitty-gritty that they really make deals in the courtroom where a lot of bills are finally agreed upon.

00:56:06.000 So if they're inside that place, that means that they're inside the halls of Congress.

00:56:12.000 They're literally hearing negotiations on bills and legislation, which is, again, a frightening cross over the First Amendment and constitutional rights.

00:56:25.000 So, I think there's something there.

00:56:27.000 I still think, you know, despite the fact that they want to dismiss it as a political witch hunt, and that's how they turn on everything, is that, oh, this is all just political.

00:56:38.000 Well, everything's political, especially with this White House.

00:56:41.000 This White House makes everything political.

00:56:44.000 So there's where we're going to see more information coming in.

00:56:49.000 It was very smart of the White House yesterday to dump out those So almost three days, but the lapdog press isn't even pointing that out. 0.81

00:56:55.000 They're going, see?

00:56:56.000 This shows they didn't know anything!

00:56:57.000 something like 94 emails that, as you mentioned, don't even begin until 67 hours after the attack.

00:56:57.000 See?

00:57:04.000 And we don't know very much.

00:57:07.000 So almost three days, but the lapdog press isn't even pointing that out.

00:57:12.000 They're going, see, this shows they didn't know anything. 1.00

00:57:15.000 See, they are idiots. 1.00

00:57:16.000 And see, that's also brilliant by the White House that wants to do this, because when the GOP comes back and says, well, you know, hey, how about the rest of this information? 1.00

00:57:27.000 They were going, look, we're giving you a lot of, that's what Jay Cunningham actually We've turned over thousands of documents, you know, and now you can tell it's a political wish-up, because it's never good enough.

00:57:36.000 Whenever we turn over, it's never enough.

00:57:40.000 Oh yeah, no, no.

00:57:52.000 That's what Petraeus emails about.

00:57:55.000 He goes, I don't like the talking point, the narrative I've been given.

00:57:58.000 It's not true.

00:57:59.000 So they even left that in there. 1.00

00:58:00.000 Maybe they're lazy or stupid. 1.00

00:58:02.000 This is such a cheap, such a cheap trick though. 1.00

00:58:04.000 I mean, this would be like if I was going out of a parking garage and they wanted my parking ticket.

00:58:08.000 And I said, you know what?

00:58:09.000 I don't have that, but here's a phone book.

00:58:11.000 And they went, no, no, no, no.

00:58:12.000 I want, I want the parking ticket.

00:58:14.000 Hey, I gave you a phone book.

00:58:15.000 That's thousands of pieces of paper.

00:58:17.000 Hey, listen, Joe Curl, people can follow your great columns.

00:58:20.000 What a political theater over at the Washington times.

00:58:23.000 And a lot of it appears what Monday mornings at drudge report.com.

00:58:26.000 I know you're a busy guy.

00:58:27.000 Thanks for all the time, bro.

00:58:28.000 Thank you.

00:58:30.000 There goes Joseph Curl.

00:58:30.000 We'll see you.

00:58:31.000 Great guy.

00:58:32.000 Great reporter.

00:58:33.000 We'll be right back with our number two.

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01:00:23.000 Okay, folks, it is Thursday, the 16th day of May 2012, and the last 30 minutes I had Joseph Curl of DrudgeReport.com and WashingtonTimes.com on with us, and I was saying bye to him at the end of the hour, and he said, hey, you raised Petraeus, that's the big point we need to get to, so he's graciously held over another five minutes with us.

01:00:41.000 If you just joined us, the whole thing's unraveling, obviously.

01:00:44.000 They've released from 67 hours later, almost three days later, select emails Acting like this is the whole data dump, and the media, I have the headlines here, the White House knew nothing about Benghazi. 1.00

01:00:56.000 They were bumbling idiots. 1.00

01:00:58.000 What an old trick. 1.00

01:00:59.000 Almost three days after they've got their talking points straight, but Petraeus is in the email saying, I don't like these talking points, I don't like this story, this basically isn't true.

01:01:09.000 And Curl on-air was saying, he's got CIA sources, so do I. I have Defense Department sources, like Colonel Schaefer, who swears he'll come on, but it's threatened not to, since he came on to drop bombshells back in October, right after Benghazi.

01:01:23.000 And so, Curl was saying there's more on Petraeus coming, Petraeus knows.

01:01:27.000 Is that why they ran him out?

01:01:28.000 Is that why they fired a bunch of CENTCOM?

01:01:31.000 Joe Curl, what's the big scoop on Benghazi, the other shoes to drop, and what do you know about Petraeus?

01:01:37.000 Well, that's the fascinating thing, is that when Petraeus happened, you know, remember, he was head of the CIA, and the CIA was heavily involved in Benghazi.

01:01:46.000 In fact, you know, some sources have told me that there was the embassy there in Tripoli, there was the annex as well in the consulate in Benghazi, an annex someplace nearby, and people, you know, many people have talked about Whether there was a dark side in Benghazi, that they were taking some people, suspected terrorists, to a place the CIA may have been heavily involved in, we really don't know.

01:02:09.000 But it was remarkable that the head of the CIA, a four-star general, Petraeus, was drummed out so quickly over a sex scandal.

01:02:19.000 Remember, this was after Benghazi happened.

01:02:22.000 And, you know, there were all kinds of speculation.

01:02:26.000 No one could prove anything, but there was speculation that Petraeus knew an awful lot and was very unhappy with the dealings with the White House and the story that was formulated and the back and forth.

01:02:38.000 And now we are starting to see from these emails the place between the CIA, the State Department, and the White House.

01:02:45.000 So, Petraeus is the one, I think, who knows an awful lot more about this.

01:02:49.000 Now, we see in this last email, Petraeus says, you know, after they finally get their talking points together, leave out the terrorist attack, leave out al Qaeda, don't mention anything about a spontaneous protest.

01:03:03.000 Now we see that Petraeus said, well, I'd rather not use these talking points if you don't mind, because they're not accurate.

01:03:09.000 The CIA, who actually knows what happened there, was telling the State Department, here's what we're comfortable with.

01:03:15.000 And the State Department for political reasons, the White House for political reasons, was saying, well, we sure don't want to say that.

01:03:20.000 The State Department didn't want anything said because they're trying to protect Hillary. 0.99

01:03:25.000 The White House didn't want anything said because they were trying to win re-election.

01:03:28.000 I mean, this is two months before re-election.

01:03:31.000 The last thing they can have is a terrorist attack under this president.

01:03:35.000 It was a protest.

01:03:37.000 We can now call 9-11 a protest under this new labeling.

01:03:42.000 Right, exactly.

01:03:44.000 So, Petraeus is the one I would really watch for.

01:03:47.000 I think Petraeus, he obviously knows everything that's happened there.

01:03:52.000 He's obviously not exactly happy with the way he was treated and drummed out.

01:03:58.000 I mean, you know, it's not unheard of for, you know, certainly the Russians will set up their politicians with scandal. 0.83

01:04:04.000 Sure, why doesn't Congress Why don't the Republicans call Petraeus for Benghazi hearings?

01:04:13.000 Well, that would be a brilliant move.

01:04:15.000 I mean, if they could bring him in.

01:04:18.000 The question is whether, I mean, can you still call Hillary Clinton?

01:04:21.000 She was Secretary of State then, she isn't now. 0.60

01:04:24.000 Can she be called back in to testify in front of Congress? 0.99

01:04:27.000 Because, obviously, her testimony now is all suspect.

01:04:31.000 I mean, what she said Absolutely.

01:04:33.000 We'll have to get you back up on that soon.

01:04:34.000 In fact, I see you have a column from a while back saying watch for Petraeus in the Benghazi probe scandal.

01:04:39.000 So you called it.

01:04:39.000 Joe Curl, again, thank you so much for the time.

01:04:42.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:04:42.000 We'll be right back, folks.

01:04:43.000 like Petraeus.

01:04:44.000 Well, we'll have to get you back up on that soon.

01:04:44.000 Absolutely.

01:04:47.000 In fact, I see you have a column from a while back saying watch for Petraeus in the Benghazi probe scandal.

01:04:52.000 So you called it.

01:04:53.000 Joe Curl, again, thank you so much for the time.

01:04:55.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:04:56.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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01:08:22.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are now ladies and gentlemen, we are now into our number two.

01:08:42.000 And the scandals enveloping Obama are exploding.

01:08:46.000 and And now they put out selected emails to confuse everyone that they didn't know anything about Benghazi, but Petraeus and others obviously are out there in the emails exposing that they got their story straight over 67 hours before they put out any emails.

01:09:03.000 So they're not putting out emails from the first 67 hours.

01:09:06.000 Pretty outrageous, obvious tactic there.

01:09:10.000 You've got a hardball, slimeball Chris Matthews saying he doesn't like Obama anymore.

01:09:16.000 Basically the luster, the tingle in his groin region.

01:09:21.000 His leg has gone away.

01:09:22.000 He's no longer like a schoolgirl at an Elvis concert. 0.94

01:09:27.000 And then we also have Bill Press coming out against the attorney general.

01:09:31.000 Atlantic Wire coming out against the attorney general.

01:09:33.000 You know, when will they resign?

01:09:35.000 They need to resign.

01:09:35.000 They need to go to jail for Fast and Furious for Benghazi.

01:09:39.000 Now congressmen are coming out saying that the word is the cloakroom.

01:09:44.000 And that's my word is that Mitch McConnell and others know the Congress was being spied on.

01:09:50.000 The cloakroom is where they go to talk shop.

01:09:53.000 That was tapped.

01:09:54.000 Of course the Congress is tapped.

01:09:57.000 I mean, it came out that's going on in England.

01:09:59.000 The Parliament's tapped.

01:10:00.000 They are spying on the legitimate government.

01:10:03.000 As bad as Congress is, that's the elected government.

01:10:06.000 I mean, they go before Congress and say, the NATO commands our military and commands our president.

01:10:11.000 I mean, right there, there should have been arrest.

01:10:13.000 There should have been, you know, helicopters landing.

01:10:16.000 You know, mass arrest of all these traitors.

01:10:18.000 You know, huge trials.

01:10:20.000 I mean, that was just like, I serve NATO.

01:10:23.000 Our orders come from NATO.

01:10:24.000 I mean, America's under foreign power control. 0.69

01:10:31.000 But instead, you know, Congressman Devin Nunes is like, yeah, the word is we're tapped at the Justice Department.

01:10:38.000 And is that wrong?

01:10:38.000 I mean, is that?

01:10:40.000 We played the clip last hour.

01:10:41.000 It's up on Infowars.com and DrugReport.com as it is from the Weekly Standard.

01:10:45.000 I mean, is that a wrong thing to do?

01:10:46.000 I mean...

01:10:47.000 Does that rise the level of impeachment?

01:10:50.000 I don't know.

01:10:50.000 I mean, you know, it's a felony to do it to anybody without a warrant, but, you know, one branch of government tapping the other branch illegally, you know, tapping the Congress, is that wrong thing to do?

01:11:01.000 Gee, I don't, you know, is it wrong what Jeffrey Dahmer did?

01:11:04.000 Is it wrong to rob banks?

01:11:07.000 I mean, it just never ceases to amaze me, the normalcy bias.

01:11:13.000 And again, if you don't know what the normalcy bias is, will you pull up the definition of normalcy bias?

01:11:15.000 Let me give them the technical one, but basically, thanks guys, incredible crew, like octopuses in there running all the stuff, following along with my scattergun way of meandering rabbit trail way of doing things.

01:11:27.000 It's just that learned helplessness, normalcy bias, it all ties together, but normalcy bias is where you just grow up in tyranny so you think it's normal.

01:11:36.000 The normalcy bias refers to extreme mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

01:11:39.000 It causes people to underestimate the severity of the disaster and not to basically respond to it.

01:11:46.000 And it's more than that.

01:11:47.000 When you just grow up in disasters, you just think it's normal, don't you?

01:11:50.000 Well, we give our firstborn to Herod. 0.91

01:11:53.000 Or, you know, we give our firstborn to... We give our firstborn to Pharaoh because he wants them killed. 0.99

01:12:03.000 Or the Romans, you know, want to kill the firstborn. 0.94

01:12:05.000 I mean, government was always, in every culture, in Aztecs, you know, I talk about this constantly, they always go, you know, we want your kids. 0.98

01:12:13.000 Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna eat them.

01:12:16.000 Mesoamerica, that was the main meat source, the ruling class, we're gonna eat your children. 1.00

01:12:20.000 We like the little ones, the veal, the human veal. 0.59

01:12:24.000 And again, if you teleported back to the Aztec Kingdom 600 years ago, and what's Mexico City today, their headquarters, and you said, I think it's wrong that you're gonna kill that one-year-old boy, and chop his heart out, and then have the lower priest class sell the meat in the market. 0.96

01:12:40.000 You know, the sun is actually a gaseous nuclear reaction, and we orbit it, and it's gonna come back up tomorrow, even if you don't chop that heart out.

01:12:49.000 They would look at you and laugh.

01:12:53.000 That's the normalcy bias.

01:12:54.000 We played the clip and Devin Nunes, who you've got to say has courage compared to most of them, is like, well the other big shoe to drop is we've been told the cloakroom is wiretapped and they've bugged us and they're listening to us.

01:13:08.000 Is that bad?

01:13:09.000 Is that wrong?

01:13:10.000 And I guess that's a tactic to kind of go, what do you think about that?

01:13:13.000 Is that a problem?

01:13:15.000 So maybe he was just being cheeky, but we played earlier Sgt.

01:13:21.000 Schultz from Hogan's Heroes going, I know nothing, I know nothing, I know nothing.

01:13:26.000 But here is the new Sgt.

01:13:29.000 Schultz, Attorney General of Fast and Furious, Deputy Attorney General who covered up Oklahoma City, that came out in federal court.

01:13:36.000 He's a very nice man.

01:13:38.000 Eric Holder.

01:13:40.000 And see, in the beginning, a patriot's a scarce man, hated, feared, scorned, but in time, when his cause succeeds, put him adjoining, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

01:13:48.000 That's Mark Twain.

01:13:50.000 I had to hit the bar bar early on and talk about Agenda 21 and cancer viruses and vaccines and the government hiring and running Al Qaeda and then finally, God love them, Glenn Beck started covering it, Michael Savage has been covering it for years, talking about false flags that Obama could stage, and then now Limbaugh's covering it and Sean Hannity's covering it and now More and more people are covering it because of Infowars.com and I gotta give credit where credit's due.

01:14:18.000 The first mega alternative media, I mean, what do you call it?

01:14:24.000 It's not mainline media, it's not alternative media, it's just free media.

01:14:28.000 DrudgeReport.com.

01:14:29.000 So, InfoWars, then Drudge, and then now everybody else follows.

01:14:33.000 And that's good!

01:14:34.000 But let me tell you, it's a lonely feeling to be demonized and attacked and know you're right and be out front on things that are admitted and hiding in plain view, like NSA wiretapping of everybody.

01:14:45.000 Oh yeah, everything's recorded, Alex.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, it's in the Telecommunications Act.

01:14:49.000 Here it is.

01:14:50.000 The spec's putting it in place in 1996 over a five-year period.

01:14:53.000 Here, just read it.

01:14:54.000 I'm not gonna read that kook.

01:14:56.000 Now they're on CNN going, yeah, we record everything you do going back at least ten years.

01:15:00.000 At least, well, actually 13, 19, 2001.

01:15:03.000 So we can just go back and hear all your conversations.

01:15:08.000 It's for your safety, of course.

01:15:10.000 See, now I thought Bilderberg didn't.

01:15:14.000 Just four years ago, New York Times said Bilderberg does not exist, and that I'm a full-on schizophrenic, imagining Bilderberg in Virginia.

01:15:22.000 Really, now it's all over the British press again.

01:15:24.000 Now it's all admitted.

01:15:26.000 Now people brag they go, since we blew its cover, and go, it's no big deal.

01:15:29.000 Now it is secret, and we'll try to arrest any reporters that try to get near.

01:15:34.000 But, uh, it's no big deal, Mr. Gopher.

01:15:36.000 You know, Caddyshack, it's no big deal.

01:15:40.000 Maybe we can find that clip where Bill Murray's dropping the plastic explosive in.

01:15:47.000 Just a friendly squirrel, Mr. Gopher.

01:15:48.000 Not a plastic explosive or anything.

01:15:51.000 You know, I mean, they're changing laws to take your bank accounts and announcing it.

01:15:56.000 What's wrong with having your bank account taken by a foreign bank?

01:15:59.000 What's wrong with Bank of America?

01:16:01.000 It's really a foreign bank, you know, taking people's houses they don't even have deeds to that are paid for.

01:16:05.000 I mean, it's no big deal, Mr. Gopher.

01:16:09.000 I mean, come on!

01:16:10.000 But speaking of comedy, because it's unintentional comedy, here is the Attorney General yesterday saying, I don't know, I don't know.

01:16:18.000 There's only some of the I don't knows.

01:16:20.000 I know nothings.

01:16:20.000 Here it is.

01:16:21.000 Do you know why that was not done?

01:16:24.000 There are exceptions to that rule.

01:16:26.000 I do not know, however.

01:16:27.000 Again, Mr. Chairman, I don't know.

01:16:30.000 I don't know.

01:16:33.000 I don't know.

01:16:37.000 That I don't know.

01:16:38.000 I just don't know.

01:16:38.000 I don't know whether or not... I just don't know.

01:16:41.000 I don't know exactly how IRS has constructed it.

01:16:45.000 I don't know when the subpoena was issued.

01:16:47.000 Well, I don't know precisely.

01:16:48.000 I don't know.

01:16:49.000 I don't know.

01:16:50.000 I don't know the specific questions.

01:16:53.000 Again, I don't know what happened.

01:16:54.000 Well, either you know or you don't know.

01:16:55.000 I don't know.

01:16:59.000 I don't know.

01:16:59.000 I just don't know when.

01:17:01.000 I don't know.

01:17:02.000 I'm not sure I know what you're talking about.

01:17:05.000 Alright.

01:17:06.000 I did not know.

01:17:07.000 I don't know what you are going to ask me.

01:17:09.000 I didn't know.

01:17:09.000 I technically... I don't know.

01:17:12.000 I don't know.

01:17:15.000 I know nothing!

01:17:16.000 I have seen nothing!

01:17:18.000 I was not even here!

01:17:19.000 I mean, this is so in your face, ladies and gentlemen.

01:17:23.000 Now I want to go to a clip of Mike Judge, some more humor here.

01:17:26.000 Again, the fact that Mike Judge, who is obviously a libertarian type guy from King of the Hill and the messages that are in that, I'd always suspected this.

01:17:36.000 I've talked to him over the years here and there over the phone and text messages, and we have a lot of mutual friends.

01:17:40.000 But I interviewed Mike Judge a few days ago, about a 50-minute interview raw.

01:17:47.000 There's phones ringing and stuff in the background, so it'll be about 45 minutes long.

01:17:50.000 We're going to premiere it next Thursday in one of the three hours.

01:17:55.000 If there's big breaking news, it'll be in the third hour.

01:17:57.000 If there's not a bunch of breaking news, it'll be in the second hour.

01:18:00.000 But we're going to premiere that here on the radio slash TV.

01:18:02.000 It's radio for all the listeners on XM and over 150 affiliates out there.

01:18:08.000 But you can also go to prisonplanet.tv if you're a member and see the video.

01:18:12.000 But the little trailer that I'm about to play of your radio listener...

01:18:16.000 You can see the video of it up on InfoWars.com.

01:18:20.000 It just went up there.

01:18:22.000 Comedy icon Mike Judge talks to Alex Jones.

01:18:25.000 And so this little teaser is up there if you actually want to see the video.

01:18:29.000 But, you know, the fact that Mike Judge, who I looked into it, does not ever really talk about his views politically openly, he did with us.

01:18:35.000 And I actually held back.

01:18:36.000 He was saying so much I didn't want to, because they will, they try to keep people that are big Hollywood A-list on a short leash, but he's a great, great patriot.

01:18:46.000 Montana slash Texan, a nice mix there.

01:18:49.000 But let's go to Mike Judge who, well, is a rocket scientist and one of, literally, and one of the greatest comedic minds ever.

01:18:57.000 And he agreed with my analysis that he's a satirist.

01:19:00.000 So let's go to a little teaser of the Mike Judge interview coming up next Thursday, seven days from now, on this transmission.

01:19:07.000 Here it is.

01:19:08.000 Hello, this is Hank Hill, and I'm telling you what, you need to listen to Alex Jones.

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01:19:29.000 Infoworth.com There were people literally on the YouTube going, I can do a better Beavis than Butthead.

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01:19:54.000 Oh, I see nothing.

01:19:56.000 I was not here.

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01:24:16.000 Yeah, it's me, Mr. Squirrel.

01:24:19.000 Yeah, hi.

01:24:21.000 Uh, just a harmless squirrel, not a plastic explosive or anything, nothing to be worried about.

01:24:26.000 I'm just here to make your last hours on Earth as peaceful as possible.

01:24:30.000 Yes, don't mind this, this is a doctor's order and so forth.

01:24:32.000 Yeah, you don't mind if I just pop in there, a few laughs, huh?

01:24:36.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:24:37.000 Well, in the words of Jean-Paul Sartre, au revoir, good sir.

01:24:41.000 This is a good piece.

01:24:45.000 What's up, Doc?

01:24:48.000 Ladies and gentlemen, if the gopher is scared of the plastic explosive, He is a conspiracy theorist.

01:25:07.000 They're setting up cameras behind armored vehicles, millions of bullets.

01:25:11.000 The training manuals say they're preparing to put us in, quote, re-education camps, official army manuals.

01:25:18.000 I can put it on screen for you if you like, or just type in, a new army manual covers re-education camps, how to break our families up.

01:25:25.000 It says who they're going to put in there, Tea Party people!

01:25:28.000 And the IRS is targeting us and, you know, they're running torture camps all over the world.

01:25:33.000 Everything's fine, Mr. Gopher.

01:25:35.000 Not a plastic explosive or anything.

01:25:37.000 Nothing to worry about, Mr. Squirrel, in your last hours on Earth.

01:25:42.000 I mean, the tyranny is here.

01:25:46.000 And I say the Gopher is a conspiracy theorist.

01:25:48.000 He should have gone and hugged the plastic explosive, even though he looked through the window and saw the greenskeeper, with the explosives, talking about his plan to blow up the Gopher.

01:25:57.000 Even though the globalists have got all these public documents.

01:25:59.000 It's on record they ship in the drugs.

01:26:01.000 It's on record they launder the money.

01:26:02.000 It's on record!

01:26:03.000 They had congressional hearings in 97 with the inspector general of the CIA admitting it.

01:26:08.000 But we're just supposed to go, oh, nothing to worry about, Mr. Gover.

01:26:12.000 Now joining us for the balance of the hour is Kevin Booth.

01:26:16.000 And folks, he's really here because he was a producer for Bill Hicks.

01:26:19.000 We're just going to go come clean since everybody on the internet has exposed us.

01:26:22.000 We're running scared right now.

01:26:25.000 Folks, I am Bill Hicks.

01:26:28.000 I joked the other day and said that, and people said he accidentally said it.

01:26:30.000 I accidentally just said it again right there.

01:26:33.000 And it's actually kind of mean to the family, folks.

01:26:35.000 Bill really did die of pancreatic cancer.

01:26:37.000 And that's not why Kevin Booth is here.

01:26:42.000 He's here to talk about American Drug War II.

01:26:44.000 I just want to be honest with folks.

01:26:46.000 Actually, Kevin Booth is Bill Hicks and Sam Kennison.

01:26:49.000 He was good friends with him as well.

01:26:51.000 And folks, Richard Pryor didn't die.

01:26:54.000 I'm going to be honest.

01:26:55.000 I'm not Bill Hicks.

01:26:56.000 I'm Richard Pryor.

01:26:58.000 I'm like Michael Jackson.

01:26:58.000 OK?

01:26:59.000 They took the pigment out of my skin.

01:27:02.000 And I'm Richard Pryor, folks.

01:27:04.000 I'm also...

01:27:06.000 St.

01:27:06.000 Jerome, George Carlin, and a Vatican assassin.

01:27:10.000 So, you're going to talk about American Drug War II, which actually wasn't produced by you, it was produced by Bill Hicks.

01:27:16.000 Kevin, do you want to come clean with the fact of how you were the mastermind producer behind my transformation?

01:27:22.000 Uh, well, even though both you guys are still alive at the same time, uh... I'm 2Pops Shakur, too.

01:27:28.000 We started the plastic surgery in the, uh, out at the Port-A-Potty at the, uh, public access station.

01:27:33.000 We had a team of plastic surgeons... Sorry, guys.

01:27:37.000 ...behind the Port-A-Potty in the dumpster back there, making the transformations.

01:27:43.000 But I'm sure you have sacredcowproductions.com.

01:27:45.000 I'm sure you're... I mean, this has been going on for years now, man.

01:27:47.000 They're digging through my, like, birth records and stuff to prove I'm Bill Hicks.

01:27:52.000 Yeah, no, I was amazed.

01:27:54.000 I went on YouTube the other day and searched it and there's hundreds of videos now.

01:27:58.000 So it's definitely, it's taking off.

01:28:01.000 It's taken off.

01:28:02.000 But it's mean to the family.

01:28:03.000 It's mean to the family.

01:28:04.000 Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

01:28:06.000 And then, you know, when you got Russell Crowe calling you up asking if you're really Bill Hicks, you know it's gone too far.

01:28:11.000 I just, I can't handle it, man.

01:28:15.000 I'm living in a Twilight Zone episode.

01:28:18.000 I'm sorry, you want to address me as Bill now, Kevin?

01:28:21.000 Alright, Billy.

01:28:23.000 But doesn't it kind of make you mad being good friends with Bill and being there when he died to hear all this?

01:28:28.000 You know, what makes me mad are just some of the people out there that aren't real crazy about you.

01:28:33.000 Like some of the Bill fans that are not so crazy about you that are saying, you know, Kevin owes us some sort Well, they cut the feed right there.

01:28:44.000 They didn't want us to hear the Bill Hicks thing.

01:28:45.000 That was us cutting the feed.

01:28:47.000 Kevin, your audio cut out.

01:28:49.000 Say that again. 0.71

01:28:49.000 Bill Hicks fans say what? 0.71

01:28:51.000 My fans say what?

01:28:53.000 You know, I just get a lot from like the Bill Hicks fans that aren't all that crazy about you.

01:28:59.000 Always saying, well, Kevin Booth owes us some sort of an explanation for his association with Alex.

01:29:05.000 But I'm Bill.

01:29:06.000 I mean, well, how would you not keep associating with me?

01:29:09.000 I know, they've got the eye scanning to prove it.

01:29:12.000 They can prove it.

01:29:13.000 They've got everything.

01:29:14.000 The one guy goes into detail.

01:29:17.000 He puts your eyes over each other.

01:29:19.000 Anybody out there, just go to YouTube and just do Bill Hicks is Alex Jones and you'll see all these videos.

01:29:25.000 Well, you know, we're getting desperate.

01:29:26.000 We're getting desperate while we're talking about this.

01:29:29.000 This is damage control, Kevin.

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:33.000 All right, folks.

01:29:34.000 I'm not gonna joke around about this.

01:29:34.000 No, for the family.

01:29:36.000 I am not Bill Hicks.

01:29:38.000 Okay?

01:29:38.000 I'm actually Bill Clinton's son.

01:29:41.000 All right, we're gonna be, uh... No, it's true, folks.

01:29:44.000 I have to... Okay, we're gonna get serious, get into the drug war.

01:29:47.000 Straight ahead with Kevin Booth, American Drug War II.

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01:33:01.000 The Christmas is coming to you.

01:33:08.000 Waging war on corruption.

01:33:13.000 It's Alex Jones, coming to you live from the front lines of the InfoWar.

01:33:22.000 Kevin Booth grew up in Houston, Texas.

01:33:24.000 He was a teenager.

01:33:26.000 Him and Bill Hicks were best friends.

01:33:28.000 That's why we're getting into Bill Hicks.

01:33:30.000 And I want to get into your new film and hold you a little bit in the next hour as I got you on late.

01:33:34.000 Larry Pinckney, one of the founders of the Black Panther Party, is going to be in studio with us.

01:33:39.000 He's also going to be on the Nightly News tonight.

01:33:41.000 And we're here interviewing him for a film I'm making.

01:33:43.000 But congratulations on American Drug War being, I've seen it in a lot of newspapers, cited as something that's really exposed the drug wars, the fraud it is, aired on a lot of the big cable networks, big hit.

01:33:53.000 American Drug War 2, I've talked to people that have seen it, say it is an unrivaled masterpiece and blows the first one away.

01:34:00.000 I mean, you probably are six, seven years, correct me if I'm wrong, in the making of this.

01:34:04.000 I know how that is when you really want to make a real film, you just get obsessed with it.

01:34:08.000 He moved out to L.A.

01:34:09.000 to really cover the drug war more closely, to make American Drug War II.

01:34:13.000 I think you told me it's been picked up by Warner Brothers.

01:34:16.000 It's going to be in select theaters across the country.

01:34:18.000 Very important to be a hit in theaters so it gets expanded everywhere.

01:34:22.000 But this gets into what it does to children.

01:34:24.000 American Drug War II.

01:34:26.000 And so we will be breaking that down and playing some exclusive video audio clips never before seen here today ahead of its release.

01:34:35.000 We're going to get into that.

01:34:35.000 But since we bring up Bill Hicks, talk about growing up a little bit briefly with Bill Hicks, being his first producer with stuff like Ninja Bachelor Party and so much more.

01:34:45.000 And then, of course, you told me the story privately.

01:34:47.000 I think it's also in the best-selling book that came out later.

01:34:50.000 About, you know, being there the day he died of pancreatic cancer.

01:34:53.000 You know, I'm not afraid to die, but I've got so much work I want to do.

01:34:56.000 And Bill had so much work.

01:34:58.000 He was so young.

01:34:58.000 I mean, just a few minutes on Bill Hicks, remembering him.

01:35:02.000 Okay.

01:35:03.000 God, I never know what to expect when I come on here.

01:35:05.000 You're all serious, then you get all funny on me.

01:35:07.000 It's like a roller coaster ride.

01:35:10.000 You know, I mean, that's an interesting thing because, I mean, you're going 100 miles an hour and basically Bill was never a guy that wasted any time.

01:35:18.000 And when he would be around people that wasted his time or just wanted to hang out, he would usually, like, bolt and go do his own thing.

01:35:25.000 He was trying to achieve things.

01:35:27.000 But definitely once Bill was diagnosed with cancer, instead of running around and telling everybody, he didn't want people to feel sorry for him, and he didn't want people to coddle him, and he definitely didn't want his life to slow down, so he kept it a complete secret, even from me for a long time, and basically just cranked up the volume, and he got as much done as possible before he passed away.

01:35:49.000 And the whole time when he was sick, You know, it was believed he was going to pull through.

01:35:53.000 I mean, you know, we're all praying for this miracle and for a while the tumor markers were looking better.

01:35:58.000 But we literally, he got sick while we were working on an album called Arizona Bay in my home studio.

01:36:04.000 It was an album where we were doing music and comedy together.

01:36:07.000 And we did Rant in E Minor while he was sick.

01:36:11.000 We worked on a brand new Ninja Bachelor party.

01:36:13.000 We did a bunch of TV shows and interviews and he was We're working on a pilot for a TV show for Channel 4 in England called Council of the Netherworld.

01:36:22.000 And so Bill, even though he was extremely sick, probably in a lot of pain, he was just running to the finish line and knowing that this was going to be the legacy that he left behind on Earth, whatever that was.

01:36:36.000 Incredible.

01:36:37.000 Amazing comedian.

01:36:38.000 Amazing political mind.

01:36:40.000 It's just a ride.

01:36:41.000 Alright, Kevin, shifting gears into your film.

01:36:44.000 I'm going from memory.

01:36:45.000 Am I right?

01:36:46.000 Seven years you've spent on American Drug War II?

01:36:49.000 Well, I mean, you know, I've been on this topic now for about ten years.

01:36:52.000 I mean, just kind of like you with Police State.

01:36:54.000 You know, you keep making the same movie over and over again until you get it right.

01:36:58.000 You know, we did American Drug War One, which covered all the aspects of the drug war, from the Ricky Ross, CIA crack cocaine, to the crystal meth epidemic, to private prisons and how they operate, up into touching on medical marijuana.

01:37:14.000 Then we put out another film called How We Won the West, which is a little bit more of a playful

01:37:18.000 Film showing like the business of marijuana in California and what the future of business could be and really back there in 2009 everybody was thinking like this is it it's gonna be legalized well things have really gone downhill since then we've got another initiative here in California Prop D that we're supposedly supposed to be voting on and so we've gone from having a thousand dispensaries in LA down to like a hundred and thirty legally operated ones and so you know I just got back from Denver now if you want to be a pothead go to Denver

01:37:47.000 Like, they don't even smoke marijuana anymore.

01:37:49.000 Everybody smokes this thing called dabs now.

01:37:51.000 It's funny, they finally legalized marijuana, and now marijuana's not good enough for them anymore.

01:37:56.000 It's all about this dabbing thing, which is like this really hardcore, powerful stuff.

01:38:01.000 I'm sure I'm going to get some people complaining that I said that, but it just seems like, you know, how high can you get?

01:38:06.000 But Denver's gone to pot, in a good way.

01:38:09.000 It was fun, it's fun.

01:38:10.000 But if you want to, like, just go crazy and smoke pot, move to Denver for sure.

01:38:15.000 But marijuana didn't used to be as strong as it is now.

01:38:18.000 It's like horse tranquilizers now or something.

01:38:20.000 Well, you know, but the point of that is, though, is that really the stronger it gets, the less you need to smoke.

01:38:25.000 And so if the complaint is that smoking things is bad for you, which it is, smoking anything is not good for you, then the less you smoke, the better.

01:38:31.000 So, you know, people argue, well, this isn't your this isn't your Parents would stock marijuana anymore, and that's why it should be against the law.

01:38:40.000 Well, but the point is, back in the day, somebody would have to smoke ten joints to rival the high you get from one bong hit of some of the special stuff.

01:38:47.000 Especially if you're vaping with Willie Nelson.

01:38:50.000 Yeah, or dabbing.

01:38:52.000 Look up dabbing.

01:38:53.000 Dabbing is like the next level.

01:38:55.000 Of course, nobody could be happy.

01:38:57.000 I was in a club in Denver.

01:38:58.000 I just wanted to take a hit.

01:38:59.000 You know, I could travel with it.

01:39:02.000 Everybody's like, oh, you still smoke flour?

01:39:04.000 Hey, this old guy, look at this old guy, still smokes flour.

01:39:06.000 Oh my God.

01:39:08.000 What an old timer.

01:39:09.000 He doesn't dab.

01:39:10.000 I'm sorry, but let's get into the film because it shows what this does to kids.

01:39:16.000 Right, so off the bat, I mean, you know, to start, I wanted to not start directly on marijuana.

01:39:21.000 And you know, my wife and I, Trey, tried to have children for many years and haven't been able to have children.

01:39:28.000 And so we decided to become foster parents here in Los Angeles.

01:39:30.000 And when we didn't do this as part of the film, it just was one of these things that became, and I've been accused of doing this for the film, but we actually ended up coaching the children.

01:39:37.000 You can't respond to trolls, Kevin.

01:39:38.000 I mean, you like adopt a bunch of sheltered dogs.

01:39:41.000 The truth is, is that those were the babies.

01:39:43.000 Everybody's maternal, and so now you want to take care of real humans, and it's good you also take care of all the dogs.

01:39:49.000 So, you know, here in Los Angeles County alone there's 35,000 children that have been taken away from their parents in these horrible group homes and foster homes and it's a business.

01:40:00.000 The business becomes how many children can you stick in one home to make as much money.

01:40:05.000 This is really a CPS film, that's why it's so powerful, that's why I'm surprised they've picked it up.

01:40:09.000 Get into that, what you discovered being involved in this.

01:40:13.000 Well, you know, right off the bat, right before Christmas, not this last Christmas, but the Christmas before, we had a younger, 11-year-old girl named Stephanie brought to our home, and she was going to spend Christmas with us.

01:40:25.000 Seemed like a totally normal, rational child, and then comes, like, all these bottles of pills.

01:40:31.000 And they say, OK, you got to give her these in the morning and these at night.

01:40:36.000 And it's, you know, Adderall.

01:40:37.000 And we come to realize that she has to be basically given amphetamines in the morning and then barbiturates at night. 0.86

01:40:44.000 And she just came from a group home where all the kids in this one group home were on the same exact regimen of barbiturates and amphetamines.

01:40:53.000 And it's basically just a way Of chemically controlling a group.

01:40:57.000 It's like a chemical straitjacket.

01:40:59.000 By the way, about 20% of our military is now, they're doing that to them too.

01:41:02.000 I mean, this is, this is THX 1138.

01:41:04.000 Yeah, no, it's, it's unbelievable.

01:41:06.000 And so we, we, you know, and, and the thing was, we were put into a position of if we didn't give her the medication, they would remove her from us because they're, you know, screening her and testing her constantly while she was with us.

01:41:18.000 And you discovered they do this to all of them basically because they get more money Yeah, well basically what you find out in the foster system very quickly is that the higher, like the more problems your kid has, the more money you can make and the more money all the social workers make and everybody involved.

01:41:36.000 So you're a successful writer, filmmaker, I'm not going to brag, but you live in a famous guy's former house, you're in a nice place, you don't need this for the money, you know, three wolves and five dogs isn't enough, you're paternal, you want to take care of some young people.

01:41:51.000 We're just trying to help a kid.

01:41:52.000 You know what I mean?

01:41:53.000 We're just trying to help a kid and experience something that we hadn't experienced before.

01:41:57.000 And then jumping into raising a teenager with a lot of problems is a lot to bite off already.

01:42:02.000 But, you know, we went through quite a bit to get them the court order to lower the amount of Adderall.

01:42:11.000 And here's something I'd like to say, and I know this is probably an extremely irresponsible thing to say.

01:42:16.000 Uh, and a lot of, it's probably a bad thing to say and a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but I believe that anybody who's going to give mind-altering drugs to a little child should have to take them first themselves.

01:42:27.000 I think that's a great thing.

01:42:28.000 I just think, you know what?

01:42:29.000 You know what?

01:42:30.000 I just don't think you should hand Paxil to some little kid and then wonder why he's like trying to tear his hair out.

01:42:35.000 Why don't you take it first?

01:42:37.000 And then maybe it would make sense.

01:42:39.000 Or, you know, I took one little speck of this Adderall and I thought I was going to have a heart attack.

01:42:44.000 I'm not kidding you.

01:42:45.000 And this was just, like, not even a crumb of what this little child was taking every day.

01:42:50.000 Oh my God, and then it makes them calm later once they burn out.

01:42:54.000 It kills brain cells.

01:42:56.000 And it usually ends up making them want to become addicted to cocaine.

01:42:59.000 Hey, I took speed twice.

01:43:01.000 You know, in high school, people would talk me into it.

01:43:03.000 That's why I never did hard drugs.

01:43:04.000 I was like, I'm up for two days, and then I vomit for another day.

01:43:04.000 I tried.

01:43:07.000 And I want to like, you know, basically get in fistfights with people.

01:43:11.000 I mean, this is hellish.

01:43:13.000 Yeah, no, and it carves out a place in your brain that is going to basically make you an addict later in life because you... The studies show you're four times more likely to be a drug addict after they put you on this stuff.

01:43:24.000 Yeah, so they know what they're doing.

01:43:26.000 70% roughly of foster kids are on up to seven drugs.

01:43:30.000 But yeah, get into the film.

01:43:31.000 We've got some clips.

01:43:32.000 What clips you want to go to first?

01:43:33.000 Well, let's start the one about foster children before we get into talking about marijuana.

01:43:37.000 So the this first clip is just like a minute and a half or so about my wife and I fostering this child.

01:43:44.000 And and then her.

01:43:45.000 It also has her sister in there who was taken to another group home.

01:43:48.000 But we knew her sister, too.

01:43:50.000 And out of out of the blue, because she tried to like they quote, drowned another girl in a pool when they were just playing in a swimming pool.

01:43:57.000 And she held someone else's little girl in her water.

01:44:00.000 They diagnosed her as being schizophrenic and put her on all these powerful schizophrenia medications.

01:44:04.000 Just never, you know, never in her whole life had been, you know, diagnosed.

01:44:08.000 And you're an expert on that because you took care of your late brother who was schizophrenic.

01:44:11.000 Yeah, she's not schizophrenic.

01:44:13.000 I mean, maybe she has some emotional problems.

01:44:15.000 Who wouldn't, if they were taken away from their parents?

01:44:17.000 Well, putting kids on speed will make them become, what, artificially schizophrenic.

01:44:21.000 Everybody knows that.

01:44:22.000 Well, what about just taking a child away from their parents?

01:44:25.000 I think taking a child away from their parents, like what child is not going to be traumatized from that?

01:44:30.000 It's a completely traumatic experience.

01:44:33.000 And so they start handing these kids drugs.

01:44:35.000 And by the way, since you raised this point, I didn't even know about it.

01:44:37.000 We've talked about the film and I'm sure people have seen it out in L.A.

01:44:41.000 Uh, you know, the rough cuts.

01:44:42.000 You know, you bring up what trolls say about, oh, he put a foster kid now that, you know, she's gone back to her mother and you've got an authorization to put her in the film.

01:44:49.000 He put her in the film.

01:44:50.000 He did this to put her in a film.

01:44:51.000 I remember the last six, seven years, all the incarnations about prisons and enslaving and marijuana.

01:44:58.000 And then I remember you telling me, now I'm going this direction because I discovered all this.

01:45:01.000 Oh my God, you're right.

01:45:03.000 It's all true.

01:45:04.000 It's so horrible.

01:45:05.000 In fact, you even told me a few months ago, you said you didn't fully believe me about the CPS and stuff before.

01:45:11.000 No, and it's crazy, but the thing is, is that when you get into it, you know, it's not like any of these people are evil.

01:45:19.000 I mean, we have these people in my house all the time.

01:45:21.000 I'm friends with a lot of these people.

01:45:23.000 We have case workers and social workers and county workers.

01:45:25.000 I mean, the foster child we're taking care of now, she's 16 years old.

01:45:29.000 I'm not kidding you, Alex.

01:45:30.000 She has 20, 20 people that work for her.

01:45:34.000 It is insane.

01:45:35.000 We go to these meetings where, like, it's literally like 20 people around a table that, you know, I'm the intern for her social workers, you know, management company, and they're all making money off this one child.

01:45:47.000 And so the more problems, too, it's like, oh, she lost her temper, we gotta, like, up her level of care. 0.99

01:45:51.000 Oh, they're at a pool and a little kid fell off and went under, tried to murder him, that we're gonna put you on an antipsychotic.

01:45:58.000 Exactly.

01:45:58.000 It's that fast.

01:45:59.000 It's that fast.

01:46:00.000 I mean, they just, they don't even question it.

01:46:03.000 Okay, so what's this first clip we're going to play?

01:46:04.000 Exclusive?

01:46:05.000 Yeah, this is about us fostering this little girl and we interview her sister as well.

01:46:13.000 And just for the record, you know, her mother has become an activist.

01:46:18.000 She's back with her mother now and it's all good.

01:46:21.000 And they, believe me, they want to be in this.

01:46:22.000 And by the way, that's what you've worked to do is get them back with their parents.

01:46:25.000 You're telling me, can you say what you told me off record about how I mean, the system doesn't really want kids back with their parents, do they?

01:46:33.000 Yeah, no, they fight it.

01:46:34.000 And, you know, we even get messages about, like, how bad they're doing all the time.

01:46:38.000 And then we check in with them and they're like, no, we're doing good.

01:46:40.000 And it's kind of like... No, no, the system doesn't want you... Look, folks, they take people's kids that fall off jungle gyms and break their finger at school. 0.67

01:46:49.000 And then they start an investigation at the hospital and then come to your house and find a dirty plate and take your kid for that when the kid breaks their finger at the school.

01:46:59.000 I know someone that happened with.

01:47:00.000 Let's go to this clip.

01:47:01.000 Here it is.

01:47:03.000 But if I wanted to become a foster dad, I was no longer allowed to use my homegrown remedy.

01:47:08.000 Weekly searches of our home by seasoned California caseworkers with sensitive noses kept me on the up and up.

01:47:17.000 We're not allowed to smoke pot.

01:47:18.000 Right before Christmas, the agency sent my wife and I an 11-year-old girl whose mother had been in prison for several years.

01:47:25.000 Along with our new foster daughter, Stephanie, came prescriptions for the powerful amphetamine Adderall and a very powerful antidepressant sleeping pill.

01:47:34.000 Before becoming our foster daughter, Stephanie had been living in a home with ten other children for over three years.

01:47:39.000 Wow!

01:47:40.000 During that time, she was regularly sedated and put to bed by 7 p.m.

01:47:44.000 and then woken up at 6 a.m.

01:47:46.000 with Adderall in order to go to school, as were most of the other children living in the home.

01:47:50.000 You saved a victim!

01:47:52.000 Newly diagnosed as being schizophrenic and drugged accordingly, Stephanie's sister, Brittany, was also placed in foster care.

01:47:59.000 I started the medication in the group home but before I had the medication I was good.

01:48:04.000 I was good but then I don't know what happened and they just put me on medication.

01:48:13.000 As foster parents, the more problems we could list our child with, the more we got paid.

01:48:17.000 If a child throws something or makes a threatening gesture, we could raise their category of care.

01:48:22.000 More drugs for the child equals more money for everyone, including the agencies, doctors, and on a grand scale, the pharmaceutical companies.

01:48:30.000 We don't drug our children.

01:48:32.000 We raise our children and nurture them and take care of them.

01:48:36.000 But the institutions that they end up in do it.

01:48:40.000 Just to keep the log jam from getting worse, you know?

01:48:44.000 I'm 11 years old, and I feel kind of sad being taken away from my mom.

01:48:50.000 And I didn't know it would be like that.

01:48:52.000 And I've been in foster care for so long, I'm ready to go home.

01:48:57.000 Wow.

01:48:58.000 You know, Kevin, you've got, you're doing something no one's ever done, and I think there's a reason you obsessed over this film for, it's been seven years, the other one took three, this is seven, and, or six and a half, and I mean, you really stumbled into something big here, and the fact that you're able to show this is just amazing.

01:49:15.000 Yeah, I know.

01:49:15.000 It's taken some time, you know.

01:49:19.000 You have to put in the time to do a story like this.

01:49:21.000 I mean, you know, we couldn't have just put this out while the girls were still in the foster system.

01:49:25.000 We had to make sure that these girls got out of the foster system before we could tell this story.

01:49:30.000 And so, it was, you know, it was about a three-year plan just to tell the fun story of this girl.

01:49:34.000 And the before and after.

01:49:34.000 I've seen, like, three-year-olds grabbed by the foster system, totally healthy, happy.

01:49:38.000 Six months later, their teeth have fallen out.

01:49:40.000 They have black circles around their eyes.

01:49:42.000 They look like concentration camp victims.

01:49:43.000 Because you cried for mommy!

01:49:45.000 They put you on drugs.

01:49:46.000 Oh, yeah, and the average foster home is not like our house.

01:49:50.000 I mean, we're the, you know, I'm not sitting here bragging and saying we got some great house, but trust me, the average foster home is... No, you got a nice pad, but the whole point is, listen, for a summer, I worked for a major carpet cleaner.

01:50:02.000 And this is when I was 18.

01:50:03.000 And my dad's like, get out of the house and get another job.

01:50:06.000 You know, I don't care if you don't have enough with one job, get two jobs.

01:50:09.000 You're not going to be, you know, that's good.

01:50:11.000 You'll throw you out of the nest.

01:50:12.000 And I got that job because it was a place where I could get paid 15 bucks an hour back then because it was rough work.

01:50:17.000 You know, the apprentice got paid like 15.

01:50:19.000 They had guys like 25.

01:50:21.000 You'd be there helping.

01:50:22.000 And let me tell you, I had to go to the foster houses.

01:50:24.000 I'm like, what are these?

01:50:25.000 And it'd be like some three-bedroom house with kids that, you know, you'd see like cages where they were locking them up, a dirty mattress, kids that look like zombies.

01:50:34.000 It would always be like some weird pot-bellied guy that, you know, now I know probably like a pedophile was, you know, wandering around.

01:50:40.000 And then they won't investigate them because that's their people.

01:50:44.000 And they've passed the little tests.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, and cops out there, you get to go in houses, you know, and plumbers.

01:50:51.000 Let me tell you, it's service people that see all this stuff, man.

01:50:54.000 And I mean, let me tell you, please, we'll be right back with Kevin Booth.

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01:54:15.000 Folks, I go covering news for years, locally in Austin, would have families contact me and I would go and see the CPS take their newborn baby for no reason and file it with the county clerk with different names and a three-year-old filing just so lazy, the social workers I saw, that I would go to court and there would be a different name on the paperwork and they abused the three-year-old. 0.71

01:54:42.000 And I'd be there in court, not allowed to talk, and people would be like, they'd have a public, you know, defender in the fake court.

01:54:47.000 It's not even a real court, not a jury.

01:54:49.000 Family court.

01:54:50.000 I actually saw this happen.

01:54:52.000 I show these documents on AXS TV, this is like 16 years ago, and one of the cases, I'm having flashbacks to this because it was such a wake-up call, and they would go, because you abused the three-year-old, it would be someone else's name, we're taking this one, and they'd go, who is my first child?

01:55:08.000 They'd go, psychiatric evaluation!

01:55:10.000 Psychiatric evaluation!

01:55:12.000 And, I mean, they would just take their kid, because it was blonde-haired, blue-eyed, and they could get a top dollar.

01:55:17.000 And I don't know about the L.A.

01:55:18.000 system.

01:55:18.000 I've read it's pretty darn bad as well.

01:55:20.000 They're in Southern California.

01:55:22.000 But they've had the doctors over CPS go public over the kids dying from the medications.

01:55:28.000 And it is a holocaust, folks. 0.95

01:55:30.000 And I know so much about it.

01:55:32.000 It frustrates me, because how do I explain it all to you if you haven't been a carpet cleaner for three months and seen it?

01:55:41.000 if you have the creepiness of it.

01:55:43.000 And then you don't want to attack all foster parents because a lot of them are good Christian people or liberals, real liberals like Kevin Booth and Trey Booth, his wife, who I've known for many years are really just big sweetie pies who love to take care of injured animals and stuff.

01:55:58.000 I'm always like, oh, no, they found another hurt possum in the yard.

01:56:02.000 Now they're nursing the possum back to life, you know.

01:56:05.000 Come over there with possums and raccoons, they're nursing back to life.

01:56:07.000 So they wanted to help young people.

01:56:09.000 And then they found out about this.

01:56:10.000 And I want to commend you for your courage, Kevin.

01:56:13.000 What's the next clip we're going to premiere here on air for folks?

01:56:16.000 Well, thanks.

01:56:17.000 We're going to circle back into the about children and cancer here.

01:56:20.000 But real quick, I just wanted to talk about That in 2003, the U.S.

01:56:25.000 government actually obtained the patent for medical marijuana in the form of the Department of Health and Human Services patenting cannabinoids.

01:56:35.000 And this is going to lead into a thing that there is a Canadian man named Rick Simpson that discovered an age-old version of cannabis oil that cured his own cancer.

01:56:46.000 And after he cured his cancer and thousands of other people's cancer with this ancient cannabis oil, he had to flee Canada because they raided him.

01:56:55.000 And now a lot of people are trying to work to get this into the modern-day pharmacopoeia.

01:57:00.000 And this brings up the main character.

01:57:03.000 The main character in American Drug War II is a little boy named Cashy Hyde.

01:57:08.000 And in the movie, I'm not going to give any spoiler alerts here on your show because I want people to go see the film on Channel 6, but he basically was in a coma for 40 days with a peanut-sized brain tumor.

01:57:21.000 The hospital staff told the parents, Mike Hyde and Callie Hyde, to make funeral arrangements

01:57:28.000 And Mike had been reading about this cannabis oil on the internet and they snuck in, his wife is actually a registered nurse, they snuck in some syringes of the cannabis oil into the emergency room in Salt Lake City and started injecting it into their dying son's feeding port, you know, just into his feeding port and literally in a day he pops out of the coma and he starts eating and then the tumor shrinks and that's kind of where our story starts.

01:57:53.000 And Tommy Chong says he drank the oil and it made his, and years later, made his cancer go away.

01:57:59.000 Right, so this next little clip I want to show right now is kind of called... We're going to have to play it the next hour.

01:58:03.000 We're going to have you on for 20 more minutes and we're going to have our guest, Mr. Pinckney, in here, one of the founding Black Panther Party members, to get into the whole New World Order and everything else here today.

01:58:12.000 We're going to get to these other four clips, exclusive premiere here of American Drug War II, picked up by, what, Warner Brothers, right, Kevin?

01:58:12.000 But stay there, Kevin.

01:58:20.000 Well, it's picked up by Gravitas, it's being helped promoted by Warner Brothers, and it's coming out on theatrical through a company called Tug.com that I want to tell everybody about.

01:58:28.000 Yeah, and we're gonna tell folks, coming up, what cities it's gonna be in so you can see it first.

01:58:33.000 Very important film.

01:58:34.000 It's really a CPS, drugging the kid film.

01:58:37.000 Very important.

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02:00:22.000 All right, award-winning filmmaker Kevin Booth is our guest.

02:00:33.000 Larry Pinkney's coming in at 20 after.

02:00:35.000 In the next segment, we're going to play three or four other exclusive clips here with people recovering from cancer with cannabis oil, the CPS drugging kids with deadly drugs, just inside, seven-year, really it's a ten-year investigation, but he put out American Drug War, the first one in like four years, and now this will be Six, seven years on this one.

02:00:58.000 And Kevin Booth's our guest right now.

02:00:59.000 Next segment, those clips are coming up.

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02:01:05.000 Kevin, what are other points people need to know about the process of seven years making a film and the different stages it went through, different things you look at in the film?

02:01:16.000 Well, I mean, the process is basically just going out into the world and just, you know, having relationships with people.

02:01:25.000 And, you know, these relationships take time.

02:01:28.000 And everything, just like a fine wine, it has to go through its natural process.

02:01:35.000 And, you know, films like these, they just can't be rushed.

02:01:38.000 You know, I mean, like the thing about fostering the girls, You know, we couldn't just turn around and stick that out on the internet.

02:01:44.000 We would have gotten them in trouble.

02:01:45.000 We would have gotten in trouble.

02:01:46.000 We would have lost them.

02:01:47.000 So there just has to be a process to that.

02:01:52.000 And also in this movie, we follow this young boy fighting cancer for two years.

02:01:56.000 And so we watch a two-year battle, a two-year roller coaster ride in the film.

02:02:02.000 So, some time goes by on this thing, and it's just been an evolution of doing this.

02:02:07.000 You know, I also go out and I do lectures all across the country at different universities, and so just getting to talk to kids about this and what their feelings are, and you know, I guess I've tried to make myself a little bit of an expert in the field.

02:02:21.000 That's why I just keep staying on the topic of drugs.

02:02:26.000 It's really incredible what you've been able to put together.

02:02:29.000 We're going to break here in a few minutes, but what are the next four clips?

02:02:32.000 We already talked about one.

02:02:33.000 Clip number two we're going to play coming up.

02:02:35.000 Then you've got a bunch of other clips we're going to be premiering here today.

02:02:39.000 Tell people about some of what's coming up.

02:02:42.000 Well the next clip is about rediscovering cannabis oil and it just talks about this basically how just a hundred years ago this cannabis oil was in every doctor's black bag and because of the drug war how it's been demonized and that people are being refused this incredible medicine and how the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies are set up to where you can't patent a plant.

02:03:05.000 And so therefore, what they're trying to do, and you've got the Department of Health and Human Services now has gotten a patent to cannabinoids, and this should worry people because what a lot of people believe they're going to do now is they're going to start stripping the plant down and trying to just patent just like little various things.

02:03:22.000 So you'll have to buy this one spray to get this one aspect of the marijuana plant.

02:03:26.000 You'll have to take this one pill.

02:03:28.000 To get that aspect of it, instead of just being able to consume the one natural plant and get everything.

02:03:33.000 We're also talking about GMO-ing it, and only allowing you to have the GMO, and then banning everything else, of course.

02:03:46.000 Mixing it up out there.

02:03:47.000 Yeah, yeah, your audio's cutting out a bit.

02:03:48.000 We're going to go to break, Kevin.

02:03:50.000 No, no, we've got another minute.

02:03:51.000 What were you trying to say?

02:03:52.000 I said a lot of people already believe that the GMO strains are already being mixed in with all the really high-end seeds.

02:03:59.000 So, you know, that conspiracy has been going along for a long time now, that people believe that the GMO... By the way, you visited the big Emerald Triangle, too.

02:04:08.000 I mean, is that going to be in the film?

02:04:10.000 No, that's in the last film.

02:04:12.000 You know, I try to keep it all fresh, so I'm trying to cover things that, you know, this new film is mostly based on children.

02:04:17.000 We also, we went to Juarez, Mexico.

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02:04:30.000 Yeah, I was a little crazy. 1.00

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02:04:38.000 Yes, I did. 0.90

02:04:39.000 Just keep... Don't turn off the camera.

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02:04:46.000 That's right.

02:04:46.000 Like Wonder Woman?

02:04:47.000 I've got a green belt from the YMCA, so... Well, I mean, we all saw your karate skills in Ninja Bachelor Party.

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02:08:12.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show!

02:08:17.000 You know, last hour before Kevin Booth got on with us, I showed how ridiculous it was on TV with Obama with Marines with their white gloves.

02:08:26.000 I thought it was absurdist, you know, holding the umbrellas over them.

02:08:29.000 I'm glad Drudge picked up on that himself, obviously.

02:08:32.000 I mean, look at this.

02:08:33.000 Punch it up for people watching on TV.

02:08:35.000 Obama calls in Marines to shield him from rain.

02:08:39.000 Fires IRS boss, who was leaving anyways, a complete confidence-in-holder.

02:08:44.000 I mean, this is just all a criminal organization.

02:08:47.000 Stage-fast and furious to blame the Second Amendment, everything.

02:08:51.000 And White House down, set for summer release.

02:08:55.000 All these movies where the White House is getting attacked by people so the White House can be seen as this historic, you know, heroes.

02:09:04.000 Amazing.

02:09:05.000 So that's just some of the news.

02:09:07.000 If you go up to InfoWars.com, you can see all the latest news there on the site.

02:09:16.000 We're going to go back to Kevin Booth here in a moment.

02:09:18.000 A Senate subcommittee investigating Apple's offshore tax practices.

02:09:21.000 How about their slave factories in China with the suicide nets?

02:09:25.000 Because I thought they were liberal.

02:09:26.000 A police department forced to borrow ammo from local residents.

02:09:30.000 I haven't even gotten to that Second Amendment news yet.

02:09:32.000 DC moves to force gun owners to buy prohibitive liability insurance.

02:09:38.000 That is devastating.

02:09:40.000 Comedy icon Mike Judge talks to Alex Jones, that interview.

02:09:43.000 Teasers up there with some satire.

02:09:45.000 Pretty powerful.

02:09:46.000 Please get that out to everybody.

02:09:47.000 A judge is going to get political in this interview coming up next week, folks.

02:09:50.000 We taped it two days ago at his house.

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02:09:54.000 Googleberg merger ushers in Plandopolis future for hybrid age.

02:09:59.000 Council vetoes display of English flag because it's offensive to Muslims.

02:10:03.000 Just all part of the Balkanization. 0.99

02:10:05.000 Obama-backed rebels carry out public executions.

02:10:08.000 Warning, graphic video.

02:10:10.000 That's just some of what's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:10:16.000 Now Larry Pinckney's coming up with the balance of the hour into some overdrive.

02:10:20.000 Founding member of the Black Panther Party.

02:10:21.000 Very interesting fellow.

02:10:22.000 We appreciate him flying all the way to Austin, Texas to be here with us for a new film we're making, but it'll also be live in studio.

02:10:29.000 Kevin, we've got like nine minutes left.

02:10:32.000 What's the next clip we're going to and then we're going to go to it?

02:10:34.000 For American Drug War II.

02:10:37.000 The one about rediscovering cannabis oil.

02:10:39.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and roll that now, Beavis.

02:10:44.000 Callie and I started sneaking the oil into his G-tube, and they started weaning him off of all those drugs I named off.

02:10:51.000 And over a course of two weeks, we literally pulled him off of all eight of those medications.

02:10:56.000 We had him sitting up in bed, eating again, laughing.

02:10:59.000 He had a quality of life that wasn't possible on the drugs they were giving him.

02:11:04.000 And the whole time, the nurses and the doctors were saying, God, this is just miraculous that Cash is doing so well.

02:11:10.000 So as all these doctors are saying, God, we don't understand how he survived all of this.

02:11:14.000 This don't make any sense to us.

02:11:16.000 I pulled that patent out.

02:11:17.000 The government has on cannabis as a neuroprotective antioxidant.

02:11:21.000 Does cannabis really have an anti-cancer effect?

02:11:24.000 I mean, we've seen the work of Tashkent.

02:11:26.000 We've seen the data from the Kaiser cohort.

02:11:29.000 There was an animal study that the National Toxicology Program did as well, where they fed Mice and rats increasing dosages of THC via a tube in their stomach and found at the end of two years that the animals that got the highest dosages actually had fewer tumors, both benign and malignant.

02:11:46.000 That's Dr. Donald Abrams.

02:11:47.000 Well, you know, in the early 1900s, John D. Rockefeller got together with his rich friends and they started all these medical foundations and they took over the medical schools.

02:11:57.000 And all they taught the doctors that were being trained is allopathic medicine.

02:12:02.000 Medicine from chemicals and poisons.

02:12:04.000 And of course, they owned the chemical plants.

02:12:07.000 And you know, what a great way to sell their products.

02:12:10.000 So they brainwashed the public and all these doctors into believing that this was the way to go.

02:12:14.000 When in reality, the only thing that actually heals, you know, is empiric medicine.

02:12:18.000 Medicine from plants.

02:12:20.000 And old John D. Rockefeller himself, as I understand it, he lived to be almost 100 years old, and he wouldn't even take his own medicine.

02:12:27.000 What he took was empiric medicine, medicine from plants.

02:12:30.000 But they didn't mind, you know, selling the chemicals to us, did they?

02:12:34.000 The pharmaceutical company and the way that they operate, it has to be a molecule, you know, no more than five molecules, in fact, to make up a drug to get approved through the FDA.

02:12:42.000 Cannabis absolutely does not qualify.

02:12:44.000 I think the pharmaceutical company figured out, well, this extremely popular plant medicine that everybody could grow in their backyard is not available for us to make profit at this time.

02:12:54.000 We have this interesting balance occurring as maturation of individuals fulfill their kind of cannabis destiny, whether or not they produce enough to be open-minded or closed-minded.

02:13:07.000 And if you look historically at the nature of mankind, we've been ruled by people quite clearly that are what I would call on high people.

02:13:16.000 Again, Kevin Booth, Patriot.

02:13:19.000 You can hear him going after the Rockefellers in this with the history. 0.84

02:13:22.000 And this is getting picked up for distribution to be on cable.

02:13:25.000 His other stuff has been on, what, Showtime, HBO, you name it.

02:13:29.000 Now getting picked up.

02:13:30.000 It's very important.

02:13:32.000 This gets seen in theaters everywhere.

02:13:33.000 Where do people go to see the first theaters and things?

02:13:36.000 If it sells out at those theaters, then folks, they'll book it in other theaters, just like Obama 2016 and others.

02:13:44.000 Yeah, give people the date, Kevin.

02:13:47.000 Yeah.

02:13:48.000 Right, it's June 6th, and if you go to americandrugwar2.com or just americandrugwar.com or americandrugwar2.com and look for the screenings through a company called Tug out of Austin.

02:13:58.000 I want to make sure everybody's at the LA screening, everybody's at the Austin screening.

02:14:02.000 It'll also be done through Brave New Books.

02:14:05.000 But you gotta buy your tickets in advance to make sure that the theater books.

02:14:10.000 So I need everybody to get out there and buy tickets immediately.

02:14:12.000 That's right, you buy them and if it doesn't book, you get your money back.

02:14:14.000 But it's all good.

02:14:15.000 No, no, the problem is this is going to sell out.

02:14:17.000 Your stuff always sells out.

02:14:19.000 Well, there's theaters all across the country, so go in there.

02:14:22.000 I'll take you to this website, and there's theaters all over Florida, New York.

02:14:25.000 We've got theaters booked everywhere, but we've got to sell all the tickets, or we've got to sell enough tickets by May 30th, so please get out there and buy the tickets immediately.

02:14:33.000 And again, folks, I'm not making any money off of this.

02:14:35.000 I'm doing this because I want this film to be a hit, because I want to save the children that they're murdering with prescription drugs via the CPS.

02:14:42.000 Let's go to the next clip.

02:14:43.000 We're almost out of time, Kevin.

02:14:44.000 Tell people the next clip.

02:14:45.000 Uh, just basically the torture that kids are still going through and that we're using chemo stuff from the 1970s.

02:14:50.000 This is a continuation of the little Cash Hive story.

02:14:53.000 There it is.

02:14:54.000 The next clip.

02:14:57.000 Cashie's mom, Callie, is a registered nurse, and although some say it's not necessary, she always insists that the oil be sterilized at a professional laboratory.

02:15:08.000 Cashie looks really good today.

02:15:13.000 Mike shares one of the many regrettable situations that Cashy and many other children with cancer commonly endure.

02:15:19.000 They weren't even going to try and remove his infected port until Sunday. 1.00

02:15:24.000 I had to actually tell them that they were stupid. 0.97

02:15:27.000 So every day they had to pull this patch off of his chest and they had to pull the gauze stuff into the wound hole that was in it. 0.99

02:15:38.000 Now that's fighting cancer with the American Cancer Society.

02:15:42.000 That's fighting cancer with the pediatric oncology floors.

02:15:46.000 This is the answer that all of our prosecutors, sheriffs, police officers, governors, this is what they say to be the best way for our kids.

02:15:55.000 It's all on purpose, folks. 1.00

02:15:57.000 I say bullshit. 1.00

02:15:59.000 Bleep that. 1.00

02:16:00.000 That's torture, man.

02:16:03.000 Have you ever seen a person who had cancer and used marijuana to help them eat or to alleviate their condition?

02:16:11.000 Somebody suffering from terminal cancer?

02:16:15.000 No, I have not.

02:16:16.000 And if you had, and I have, and seen that it helps them with their appetite and makes them smile, would you agree that it has some benefit to society for somebody who's dying and that marijuana is the only thing that makes them eat and makes them smile?

02:16:30.000 Is there not an efficacious situation there?

02:16:34.000 I think that's between him and his doctor.

02:16:38.000 Well, if it's between him and his doctor, why does the DEA take a position that medical marijuana is wrong, which you've taken.

02:16:44.000 You've taken the position it's not between him and his doctor.

02:16:46.000 You have a publication, which on page 6 of your publication in 2011, has the most insane and banal paragraph.

02:16:55.000 The legalization movement is not simply a harmless academic exercise.

02:16:59.000 The moral danger of thinking marijuana is... Gentleman's time has expired.

02:17:02.000 The gentlewoman from California, Ms.

02:17:04.000 Chu. 0.93

02:17:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the cancer viruses are in the vaccine.

02:17:09.000 Pediatric cancers sometimes are up 10,000 percent.

02:17:12.000 They're killing all of us. 0.84

02:17:13.000 And because they make money, they give you the cancer, and then they go and suck all the money out of you while they kill you and your family. 0.98

02:17:20.000 And then they'll now take your kids and take them and do medical experiments on them. 1.00

02:17:24.000 I mean, this is unbelievable, Kevin.

02:17:27.000 Yeah I know and a lot of the footage that you're seeing this thing this this was hidden camera footage that the family actually you know we're filming off their iPhones and so forth without the hospital's knowledge so there's a lot of a lot of footage in this movie you're not going to see anywhere else and I think it's very interesting at that It's amazing.

02:17:43.000 Now we've got one more clip here.

02:17:44.000 Let's go ahead and roll that clip right now.

02:17:46.000 admitting that she doesn't know anything about cancer and cannabis, while you've got 52% of all Americans saying they want it legalized.

02:17:54.000 It's just like Twilight Zone.

02:17:57.000 And the DEA is still pumping out propaganda saying that anybody that belongs to the marijuana legalization movement is domestic terrorists.

02:18:05.000 It's amazing.

02:18:07.000 Now we've got one more clip here.

02:18:09.000 Let's go ahead and roll that clip right now.

02:18:10.000 Here's the final clip.

02:18:11.000 And then we'll get Kevin's comment There are only three groups of which I'm aware that are very interested in keeping marijuana illegal.

02:18:23.000 They're the police.

02:18:24.000 A lot of people know about them.

02:18:25.000 And that tends to take the form of chiefs of police, police unions trying to hold on to overtime pay, prisons, private prison industry.

02:18:35.000 The other is cartels.

02:18:37.000 Because cartels make 70% of their profits from marijuana sales alone.

02:18:41.000 I was lucky enough to cross the bridge into Juarez with veteran journalists Brett and Craig Renault who report for the New York Times.

02:18:48.000 The battle between the police and the cartels is really heated up and the cartels are saying they're going to kill one police officer every day and in the last month and a half they have killed about 19 local police officers here and just last night in this area two more were killed.

02:19:06.000 The brutally poor circumstances of Juarez make many of the children perfect marks for cartel recruitment.

02:19:12.000 If you don't want to go into the cartel, they won't force you.

02:19:16.000 They like for you to go by yourself.

02:19:20.000 Because if they force you, you can go and tell the police and they will help you sometimes.

02:19:27.000 But if you go by yourself, they will ask you to do anything and you will do it.

02:19:33.000 And they give you a transponder number to squawk that's a little off the norm.

02:19:38.000 And so an ATC... Alright, folks, listen.

02:19:40.000 I'll have to air the rest of this tonight on the Nightly News.

02:19:43.000 Thank you, Kevin Booth, for premiering this year.

02:19:46.000 I congratulate you on your courage and your great work.

02:19:49.000 People can find out more at americandrugwar2.com to get these screened all over the country.

02:19:54.000 Great job, Kevin.

02:19:55.000 This is a revolutionary thing you've done.

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02:24:15.000 There's a big Forbes article out today.

02:24:18.000 And you're only getting mugged if you go downtown.

02:24:20.000 There's a big Forbes article out today.

02:24:24.000 I live back in the woods, you see.

02:24:29.000 Disarming realities as gun sales soar, gun crimes plummet.

02:24:35.000 And, of course, we've been hammering on this forever, and now those statistics are getting out.

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02:24:46.000 Meanwhile, the bullet shortage is so bad, police chief has citizens for ammo, gets a 1,500 round loan amid strong public response.

02:24:54.000 The evil public up in Minnesota, in Proctor, Minnesota.

02:24:58.000 DC considers quarter million dollar insurance policy for gun buyers.

02:25:01.000 Next it'll be a million.

02:25:03.000 So if they can't get your guns one way, they'll get them the other.

02:25:06.000 That's just some of what we have.

02:25:08.000 And joining us for the rest of the hour and then into some overdrive today is Larry Pinckney with Black Activist WG.org.

02:25:16.000 He also is the editor, editorial board member of blackcommentator.com, a great news site.

02:25:22.000 And, of course, he is a veteran Black Panther Party.

02:25:24.000 They're at its founding.

02:25:25.000 The former Minister of the Interior of the Republic of New Africa, a former political prisoner, and the only American to have successfully self-offered his civil political rights case to the United Nations under the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights.

02:25:39.000 And he, of course, has been a guest on PBS, you name it, and documentaries about COINTELPRO, how the government targets people with dirty tricks like Having people get behind me and yell, kill Michelle Malkin, and the phone rings and it's the Denver Post and National TV saying, why'd you say killer?

02:25:57.000 They had, it was all a setup, and luckily we had video and it came out it was a setup, and then now with the Austin gun rally they had somebody run up and cuss right behind the pro-gun people to then blame us.

02:26:09.000 These are the tactics, and that's light COINTELPRO.

02:26:13.000 Thank you for coming to Austin, Texas.

02:26:15.000 Larry Pinckney, it's great to have you here.

02:26:17.000 This is a short segment, but I asked you, I said, what do you want to get into first?

02:26:20.000 The wars, the scandals, the government running Al Qaeda?

02:26:22.000 You go, no, I want to talk about the Second Amendment first.

02:26:25.000 And so let's talk about that, Larry Pinckney.

02:26:27.000 Well, first of all, I want to thank you very, very much, Alex.

02:26:30.000 It's a pleasure being here in Austin, Texas.

02:26:32.000 It's a fantastic job that all of you are doing.

02:26:36.000 We're trying.

02:26:37.000 It is fantastic.

02:26:38.000 So let me just get right into it.

02:26:40.000 As far as the Second Amendment is concerned, that is to say, the right to defend ourselves.

02:26:47.000 We're not just talking about bearing arms, we're saying the right to defend ourselves.

02:26:51.000 It was the reason that the Second Amendment came into being.

02:26:55.000 It didn't happen by osmosis.

02:26:57.000 We have to understand that if we are not able to defend ourselves, everyday ordinary black, white, brown, red, yellow people, American citizens, we are in deep trouble if the government For example, the Department of Homeland Security, which has been gathering munitions, you name it.

02:27:19.000 Well, who are they going to use those munitions and ammunition against?

02:27:22.000 It's not a foreign agency.

02:27:24.000 It has to be against... The training manuals say it's for anybody that, quote, promotes the Constitution.

02:27:30.000 And what does that tell us?

02:27:32.000 Apparently it tells us that the Constitution has been made null and void.

02:27:36.000 It means anybody that wants a check on unlimited power is the enemy.

02:27:39.000 Right, right.

02:27:41.000 So, I wanted to, and I thank you for asking me, I wanted to begin by this, at this stage.

02:27:47.000 Being one of the veterans of the Black Panther Party, the party was founded in October 1966 in Oakland, California.

02:27:56.000 I joined the party in 1967, the following year.

02:27:59.000 But however, I want people to remember this.

02:28:01.000 By the end of the 1980s, in fact even before, frankly, The Black Panther Party for self-defense had been absolutely, physically decimated.

02:28:15.000 Murders by and from the federal government.

02:28:20.000 I'm also talking about set-ups.

02:28:22.000 I'm talking about discreditation.

02:28:24.000 I'm talking about every vile, vicious, despicable tactic.

02:28:29.000 Infiltrations.

02:28:30.000 Infiltrations.

02:28:32.000 And people died.

02:28:33.000 Many, many people died.

02:28:34.000 Families were destroyed.

02:28:36.000 This is what we need to understand.

02:28:38.000 I don't care what our color is.

02:28:40.000 Black, white, brown, red, yellow.

02:28:41.000 We'd better all understand that we are in this struggle together.

02:28:45.000 And if we are to survive, we'd better do it collectively, and we'd better do it together, and we'd better stop being played off one against the other.

02:28:54.000 We don't have to agree 100% with every... No, but if anybody has their rights taken, we all have our rights taken.

02:28:59.000 That is correct.

02:29:00.000 That is absolutely... Hang together, hang separate.

02:29:02.000 That's right.

02:29:03.000 And what we're going to do is we are going to be together.

02:29:06.000 Because we are going to win this thing.

02:29:09.000 As we said back in the day in the party, all power to the people.

02:29:12.000 And we meant that not only figuratively, but quite literally. 0.98

02:29:16.000 Yeah, how can you have so-called liberals today who used to say, I think wrongly, you know, kill the pigs, because we need to wake the police up as well. 0.97

02:29:25.000 Now they're, no, give the cops all the guns, we can't have them. 0.97

02:29:31.000 We're going to come back with Larry Pinckney.

02:29:32.000 You can tell he's an amazing speaker in mind.

02:29:34.000 We're going to be breaking it all down, straight ahead, in, through, and beyond.

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02:33:11.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:14.000 Monday through Friday from 11 a.m. until until 2 p.m.

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02:33:29.000 We are here.

02:33:30.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

02:33:32.000 Larry Pinkney.

02:33:33.000 I've been in the Black Panther Party since right after it was set up.

02:33:36.000 Helped found chapters in different parts of the country.

02:33:38.000 Was their, you know, spokesman.

02:33:41.000 And was targeted, put in jail politically.

02:33:43.000 Even came out in Congress.

02:33:45.000 If my memory serves correctly, that he was set up politically.

02:33:48.000 So an on-record former political prisoner here with us.

02:33:52.000 And when he was getting to, he just joined us, Is that they always sell the idea of let's just take one group's rights.

02:33:58.000 And so they say, hey, let's take the Muslims rights. 1.00

02:34:01.000 And then now you hear it's for libertarians, conservatives, anti-war people, Tea Party, people that promote the Constitution.

02:34:08.000 But notice the media only went with, oh, they went after conservatives and Tea Party.

02:34:12.000 Now it turns out it was anybody promoting the Constitution.

02:34:15.000 Oh, it was anti-war groups.

02:34:17.000 Not fake liberal fascists, but any real liberals.

02:34:20.000 Folks, the terms mean nothing.

02:34:21.000 If you want justice, then you want...

02:34:25.000 Basic checks and balances.

02:34:27.000 And if you don't know history, ladies and gentlemen, for new listeners, we are becoming a tyranny.

02:34:31.000 Now, Larry Pinckney, I don't want to rant here, because I can talk as well, but I want to hear what you have to say.

02:34:36.000 You were saying a lot during the break, you know, the good report to people that you talk to people waking up everywhere, but finishing up the point on the Second Amendment, on hang together or hang separate, Larry Pinckney.

02:34:46.000 You know, the fact is, is that if we do not know our history, Howard Zinn says this very well.

02:34:51.000 He says, if you do not know your history, it's as if you were born yesterday.

02:34:56.000 And if you were born yesterday, anyone can tell you anything who's in a position of authority, and you have no way of checking up on it.

02:35:04.000 My purpose as a veteran of the party, as an activist continuing today in the year 2013, my purpose is to do everything that I can to wake people up, to get them to understand, all of us, that the power must rest with us collectively.

02:35:21.000 Everyday black, white, brown, red and yellow people, everyday people.

02:35:25.000 I was just saying to you during our break, Alex, and I'd like to say this on the air, That InfoWars has done and is doing an incredible job.

02:35:36.000 I have received, and I say an incredible job, I'm talking about in terms of waking people up, making, getting people to think.

02:35:42.000 Critically think.

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02:35:45.000 Use your common sense.

02:35:47.000 Critically think.

02:35:48.000 And InfoWars, it's about that.

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02:35:56.000 Oh no!

02:35:57.000 We're all in this together.

02:35:57.000 I mean, I have no future, my children don't.

02:35:59.000 If you don't have a future, if your family doesn't have a future, I mean, it's really such a simple equation.

02:36:04.000 We interviewed Professor Grimm a few weeks ago out in LA, a video interview that's free online for everybody.

02:36:09.000 He just said, look, it's the same thing.

02:36:11.000 If I'm not free, you're not free.

02:36:12.000 I mean, it's such a simple equation and you see the divide and conquer.

02:36:16.000 And then you have to engage it sometimes in, hey, you've been divided and conquered, but it's still a group coming down on you because they've been programmed that that's how you get things done, and people think they're getting a power out of a group.

02:36:27.000 How about a group that's into freedom, Bill of Rights, Constitution, due process, and the right of the people to be armed?

02:36:34.000 I mean, that is a fundamental right, and the right of free speech.

02:36:37.000 You know, as Bush leaves office, the whole agenda just continues.

02:36:40.000 What do you make Of Obama and his foreign policy of putting Al-Qaeda in Libya and Syria against countries that were actually stabilizing forces in that region.

02:36:51.000 Well the whole point of drone man Barack Obama, let's call him what he really is, drone man Barack Obama, the whole point of Obama's policies really is to destabilize, destabilize government's countries.

02:37:10.000 Now why?

02:37:11.000 Because if they can destabilize it, if Obama and his minions, drone men, can do this, then they have the pretext for going into those countries. 0.71

02:37:21.000 And by the way, there are plenty of Americans, everyday Americans, who die as a result of this.

02:37:28.000 Whether they're in the U.S.

02:37:29.000 military or whether they're just tourists trying to see another country, trying to acclimatize themselves to another culture.

02:37:38.000 This, how do, and I'm trying to be very calm about this.

02:37:42.000 Can you imagine being in Pakistan where every day a plane flies over and just blows up whoever they want illegally? 0.98

02:37:48.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:37:49.000 And the fact is, is that it's being done in our name, our name.

02:37:53.000 And I call the left out about this, the so-called left, the so-called liberals, the so-called progressives.

02:37:59.000 Where are you?

02:38:00.000 What are you doing now?

02:38:02.000 When G.W.

02:38:03.000 Bush was doing this, you were out in the streets.

02:38:06.000 Where are you now?

02:38:08.000 Barack Obama, drone man, has taken this, he has extended the policies of Bush and exacerbated them.

02:38:08.000 Okay?

02:38:17.000 Let's stop being hypocrites. 0.99

02:38:19.000 Let's be real. 0.98

02:38:20.000 Let's come together collectively as a people.

02:38:22.000 That's how I, that is my take on it.

02:38:25.000 Well, I've talked to so many national security people who are even establishment And they're like, look, these big corporations just want new wars to sell more bombs and to get resources for other corporations, and we don't even get the booty.

02:38:38.000 And I wouldn't be for it if we were getting the booty.

02:38:40.000 But we're paying, so many guys go, we need to go into Iraq to get the oil.

02:38:40.000 Right.

02:38:44.000 Oil prices went up.

02:38:46.000 The truth is they went in because Saddam was over pumping to pay off his debts, driving down the price. 0.53

02:38:51.000 We went to Iraq to jack the price up.

02:38:54.000 Right, right.

02:38:55.000 It's always the opposite.

02:38:57.000 I was just saying on a program last week, the host asked me, well, what do you think about the, how do you deal with the corporate stream media news?

02:39:05.000 I said, this is how I deal with the corporate stream media news.

02:39:08.000 I look at it, I reverse it, and then I move forward to find the truth.

02:39:12.000 I decipher it.

02:39:13.000 It's like if someone is speaking Russian or French or German or Swahili or whatever, you have to decipher the language first.

02:39:20.000 And this is how we have to handle this.

02:39:22.000 I call it corporate stream vomit.

02:39:24.000 Let's be honest.

02:39:25.000 Because that's what it is.

02:39:27.000 It's meant to control.

02:39:29.000 And look at the messages, how they're anti-family, anti-male, anti-woman, anti-child.

02:39:29.000 Every day.

02:39:35.000 I mean, this is a group of crooks. 0.98

02:39:36.000 Yes, and they are well-trained and well-funded crooks. 1.00

02:39:41.000 They are criminals. 0.99

02:39:42.000 It makes the mafia look like child's play. 0.99

02:39:45.000 It really, really does. 1.00

02:39:47.000 Because they've all competed with each other in evil to develop the ultimate synthesis of scum. 0.98

02:39:52.000 And it's a narrative, Alex, my brother, it's a narrative. 0.98

02:39:56.000 It's a narrative that this corporate stream media puts out.

02:40:00.000 I call them the propaganda arm of the government, of the corporate-owned government.

02:40:05.000 They are this so-called news media, in quotation marks, propaganda arm.

02:40:10.000 Why, Herman Goering, of World War II fame, would be Absolutely ecstatic with joy to see how so many people in this country, and throughout the world, but in this country, have been programmed and to accept that narrative, buy that narrative, forget their narrative.

02:40:31.000 We must develop our own narrative.

02:40:32.000 That's my next question, and we do that from history, common sense, research, not being lazy.

02:40:37.000 Because even when you want to know the truth, it's hard to get it.

02:40:40.000 Much less just being lazy and just accepting whatever you're told.

02:40:43.000 Plus the world's so busy, I don't blame people, but it's at your peril that you ignore this info.

02:40:48.000 The narrative seems to be collapsing more and more, though, for the establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans.

02:40:55.000 And A, do you agree with that?

02:40:56.000 And B, how do you expect them to try to then clamp back down and get control of the narrative?

02:41:01.000 Absolutely, I agree with that.

02:41:02.000 These Democrats, Republicans, I call them Republicrats, because they all feed from precisely the same trough, okay?

02:41:11.000 But absolutely, I agree with that.

02:41:13.000 Their narrative is being challenged and questioned, and therefore is being broken down.

02:41:20.000 But we've got a lot more work to do.

02:41:21.000 A lot more work to do.

02:41:23.000 However, The monsters that we're dealing with, and yes they are monsters, I'm not, I understand that they're supposed to be human beings, but human beings can act in very monstrous ways, and that's what they do, deliberately.

02:41:37.000 Anyway, the point is, is that We can expect that the corporate stream media, the corporate government, Wall Street, the whole bunch of them, their gang, I like that term because that's exactly what they are, their gang, they're going to engage in all kinds of activities.

02:41:54.000 They're going to have false flag events occurring constantly.

02:42:00.000 Because that diverts people's attention, it keeps people in fear, it keeps people divided.

02:42:00.000 Why?

02:42:06.000 Expect this, brothers and sisters.

02:42:08.000 I had Bloomberg, two reporters, call me yesterday, doing a big investigative report, and they kept going, why do you think the government might be involved?

02:42:15.000 And I said, well, they've been involved in hundreds of events, and they didn't want to hear real events.

02:42:18.000 They didn't want to see facts.

02:42:20.000 I go, if somebody's done something over and over again, and then it fits the same narrative, and then they're covering stuff up, and these guys were handled by the FBI and CIA, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then when the guy's in the hospital, they say that they've now admitted to it, and now there's a letter found in the boat.

02:42:34.000 I mean, all, I mean, it's, and they wouldn't, and they kept saying, Well, we're going to say you said this, and they would say something I didn't say, and go, is that fair?

02:42:41.000 Is that fair for an hour?

02:42:43.000 And I said, man, I can't do this anymore with you.

02:42:45.000 I said, this is what I said.

02:42:47.000 And they'd go, but is it fair to say this?

02:42:48.000 And they'd say back this other thing.

02:42:50.000 Is it fair?

02:42:51.000 And it was just that they were there to get a fake statement. 1.00

02:42:54.000 And they're listening right now to put it out there to make us look stupid. 1.00

02:42:54.000 Right. 1.00

02:42:57.000 And look, man, I don't have all the answers. 0.99

02:42:59.000 I just know this government's run by a bunch of crooks and it's getting worse. 0.98

02:43:04.000 And I kept telling the reporters, I go, do you really think you're safe living in a country run by a bunch of ruthless crooks? 0.93

02:43:09.000 Do you really want to play games right now?

02:43:11.000 And the fact is, as you were talking, as you were talking just now, Alex, I thought about the USS Liberty.

02:43:17.000 How many people, how many people in this country are aware of the USS Liberty?

02:43:21.000 Tell them about it.

02:43:21.000 Okay?

02:43:22.000 The ship that was attacked.

02:43:25.000 Really, as a result of U.S.

02:43:27.000 guidance by the Israelis, who were acting as proxies.

02:43:32.000 This was a ship that had all Americans on it.

02:43:35.000 When I say all Americans, it was a U.S.

02:43:36.000 Navy ship! 1.00

02:43:38.000 Okay?

02:43:38.000 It was attacked.

02:43:39.000 It was in international waters.

02:43:41.000 It was attacked for over two hours!

02:43:43.000 Many people on that vessel were killed.

02:43:47.000 Okay?

02:43:47.000 This was at the bidding of whom?

02:43:49.000 Of our own government!

02:43:51.000 And I use the word, own, in heavy quotation marks.

02:43:54.000 Now, if they'll do that, And they've done so many other things, from the Pueblo incident in the late 1960s, to what occurred just a few years later with USS Liberty, to what the Central Intelligence Agency and other agencies have done in New York, in Minneapolis, in Los Angeles.

02:44:12.000 When I say what they have done, I'm talking about the tactics that they use to control and manipulate.

02:44:19.000 Well, they go out and find mentally ill or low IQ people, give them money for years, then give them real bombs.

02:44:25.000 They coordinate, they lead, they hatch the plans.

02:44:27.000 And I was quoting the New York Times to Bloomberg, going, hey, here's the New York Times admitting all the major terror plots were hatched by the FBI.

02:44:35.000 Here's the headline.

02:44:36.000 They go, we're not going to discuss that.

02:44:37.000 Why?

02:44:38.000 And I was like, well then how am I supposed to?

02:44:38.000 Why?

02:44:40.000 I'm the conspiracy theorist.

02:44:42.000 You've got groups that have done this over and over again.

02:44:44.000 They're dangerous.

02:44:44.000 I don't like messing with them, but it's got to be done.

02:44:47.000 Justice demands it, and you've got these giggling reporters on the other end. 1.00

02:44:51.000 I'm like, hey, this isn't funny!

02:44:53.000 Right, it's very dangerous and it's absolutely necessary that we the people understand that it's affecting our very lives and livelihoods for that matter.

02:45:04.000 The fact is that if we don't pay attention to it, you know, I know I've heard the thing before Alex, I'm sure you have.

02:45:10.000 Oh, Jones is a conspiracy theorist!

02:45:13.000 Okay, you know what my answer is to that?

02:45:16.000 You, sir, madam, are a denial theorist.

02:45:21.000 Okay?

02:45:21.000 We've got, and that's part of that corporate narrative.

02:45:24.000 Just keep people denying, just keep them running around like, you know, rats in a cage, like hamsters running across that wheel, and we can control them.

02:45:33.000 It's time for us to stop being denial theorists.

02:45:35.000 It's time for us to be critical thinkers.

02:45:38.000 And most of the time, it's their narrative that they're trying to put in your mouth, or my mouth, That's what they're trying to do.

02:45:44.000 Which is constantly changing.

02:45:45.000 Why do you think all this stuff is coming out on Obama right now?

02:45:50.000 I mean, I think it's because they've intimidated the press.

02:45:52.000 Obviously, Obama is just kind of their puppet to be able to get their agenda through.

02:45:56.000 And people think it's trendy and go back to sleep.

02:45:58.000 It's the globalist agenda like Bush, Obama.

02:46:01.000 They're all just puppets of this, clearly.

02:46:02.000 But a lot of times they bring out scandals in the second term because the power structure doesn't want one group getting too powerful.

02:46:09.000 But this, I think, I watched those hearings where those whistleblowers went public.

02:46:13.000 They were scared.

02:46:13.000 They were told to stand down.

02:46:15.000 For some reason they wanted that ambassador dead.

02:46:17.000 We now know it was to get missiles to Al-Qaeda. 0.97

02:46:19.000 And they think we're so dumb they're going to have Al-Qaeda blow stuff up and then I guess take our liberties because they're Al-Qaeda blow stuff up.

02:46:25.000 Do you think that's accurate or what do you think is going on? 0.88

02:46:29.000 Well, the bitter irony when we speak of Al-Qaeda is Al-Qaeda is in fact what?

02:46:33.000 It came into being as a result of the United States CIA.

02:46:37.000 On record.

02:46:38.000 It's right on record.

02:46:39.000 This is on congressional record.

02:46:41.000 It is all over the place.

02:46:43.000 But how many people are cognizant of that?

02:46:46.000 How many people know that the quote-unquote terrorists We're groomed by none other than our so-called government, okay?

02:46:57.000 And we are the victims, as well as people all over the world.

02:47:00.000 And that's not even our theory.

02:47:02.000 We know they were, and protected, and so why do I get my rights taken?

02:47:07.000 Right.

02:47:07.000 I mean, this is the oldest trick in the book.

02:47:08.000 Right, right.

02:47:09.000 And as I said, Herman Goering and others in the Third Reich, and people go, ah, don't bring up the Nazis, don't bring up the Nazis.

02:47:16.000 Okay, let's bring up Benito Mussolini.

02:47:18.000 He did the same thing.

02:47:19.000 Soviets. 0.72

02:47:20.000 Yes, and for that matter, let's bring up the U.S.-backed dictator Francisco Franco.

02:47:27.000 He did the same thing in Spain.

02:47:28.000 He did false flags.

02:47:29.000 Yes, all the time.

02:47:30.000 All the time.

02:47:31.000 So this is not an ideological thing, this is a people's real thing, and we better We better pay attention.

02:47:37.000 Well, yeah, because even if real terrorists attack us, we gut up, we deal with it, we don't give our rights up because of it.

02:47:42.000 But when they blow something up and go, day one, give your rights up, 9-11, you'll never have rights again, it's the end of freedom in America.

02:47:49.000 Well, even if they didn't do it, which the shows they did, you're trying to take my rights using a tragedy.

02:47:54.000 You don't negotiate with terrorists, you don't give up your rights because of it.

02:47:57.000 I mean, right there, there's no doubt that's what's going on.

02:48:00.000 Absolutely.

02:48:01.000 There is no doubt.

02:48:02.000 I mean, you know, if we give up our rights, then we have no right to freedom, to justice, to liberty, to any of those things.

02:48:11.000 Why do you think these scandals are coming out now then?

02:48:13.000 I think that thanks to what you are doing and others like yourself, I think that more and more the corporate stream media and the corporate controlled government are finding themselves in a situation where they're being questioned and challenged.

02:48:29.000 And I think we need to intensify that questioning and challenging.

02:48:32.000 In fact, that's what they've been bemoaning.

02:48:34.000 They've been saying there's all this new media and groups that we don't control.

02:48:34.000 I think you're right.

02:48:40.000 People are pointing out that we said something different a week ago than we're saying now.

02:48:43.000 Right, right.

02:48:43.000 Absolutely.

02:48:44.000 And I smile, not because it's funny, but it's so ludicrous. 1.00

02:48:48.000 It is pathetic. 0.98

02:48:50.000 And I always say to sisters and brothers, brothers and sisters, let's keep some levity in this. 0.98

02:48:57.000 Because if we don't have some levity, we'll go insane.

02:49:00.000 And we're not going to go insane.

02:49:00.000 I agree.

02:49:01.000 We're going to keep some levity in this.

02:49:03.000 And so I smile.

02:49:05.000 And the more we look at what the tactics are of these people, they really haven't changed.

02:49:11.000 They really haven't changed from the 60s to the 70s to the 80s.

02:49:14.000 No, they don't change.

02:49:14.000 It's funny.

02:49:17.000 Are like obsessive compulsive.

02:49:19.000 They do the same thing the exact same way.

02:49:20.000 Right.

02:49:21.000 Here's an example.

02:49:21.000 A lot of cops are actually waking up and I don't want to play part of that balkanization, demonizing them because that's what they want us to be, us against them.

02:49:27.000 But they're trying to make police more and more corrupt, more and more authoritarian.

02:49:32.000 And when a cop's all over the country, I'll walk up and say, why are you videotaping?

02:49:35.000 And I'll be on the street corner.

02:49:36.000 I go, well, you're 100 yards away.

02:49:37.000 Am I interfering with you?

02:49:38.000 Well, no, but I want your name and stuff.

02:49:39.000 And I go, well, I want your name and stuff.

02:49:41.000 And then I'll just laugh.

02:49:42.000 And I'll go, come on, man, this isn't North Korea. 1.00

02:49:44.000 And I've noticed then they'll start laughing too, realizing they've been told to do this, but it's so stupid. 0.99

02:49:49.000 If you act afraid, Then they like alert and take you to jail, but if you laugh and go, man, knock it off! 1.00

02:49:55.000 Stop, you know, this is ridiculous. 0.99

02:49:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:49:57.000 Then they kind of click and go, yeah, this is ridiculous.

02:49:59.000 You know, like cops were saying we couldn't hand out our magazines in downtown Austin.

02:50:03.000 And I called them up, got the cops on the phone.

02:50:05.000 My guys were down there and I, and I go, why are you doing this to America?

02:50:08.000 Why are you doing this to your family?

02:50:10.000 I'm like, yeah, I know.

02:50:10.000 You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

02:50:11.000 I listen to your show.

02:50:12.000 I've been told to do this.

02:50:14.000 And we go out and give that ticket and I'm going to sue you.

02:50:16.000 And so then they back off, but they already given some tickets.

02:50:19.000 And then I go down there and the cops are all, hey, let's pose with a photo.

02:50:21.000 You're right, we don't like it.

02:50:22.000 We're glad you stood up to us.

02:50:24.000 We don't like to follow these orders.

02:50:25.000 Well, you should say no up front.

02:50:27.000 Right.

02:50:28.000 You should say no, like I did, instead of just... I mean, in America, we can't hand out magazines during Stop by Southwest anywhere downtown.

02:50:36.000 I mean, what's wrong with you?

02:50:37.000 Right, right.

02:50:38.000 And the fact is, is that, you know, all people, whether they call themselves police officers, whether they call themselves military, I don't give a zip what they call themselves.

02:50:46.000 The fact of the matter is, is that we better begin from a standpoint of our humanity and our freedom.

02:50:50.000 We better begin there and end there and keep it there.

02:50:53.000 So, uh... I agree with you.

02:50:55.000 We gotta go to break.

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02:56:17.000 Now, Larry Pinckney, I've asked a bunch of questions here.

02:56:19.000 We're going to go into overdrive in the next hour.

02:56:22.000 And, you know, I've thrown out some stuff here.

02:56:24.000 But what do you want to get into?

02:56:27.000 Because obviously we can talk about a lot of stuff, but what do you want to get into?

02:56:30.000 Well, I want to get into... I want to remind people.

02:56:34.000 All of us.

02:56:35.000 That we are the ones who ultimately have the power.

02:56:39.000 We have to recognize this.

02:56:41.000 It's one thing, and it's extremely important, to warn people.

02:56:45.000 That's why the system tells us we don't have power and flies around in big jets and red carpets and big giant buildings is to make us feel small.

02:56:52.000 And if we feel small, we feel powerless.

02:56:52.000 Right, right.

02:56:54.000 We are not!

02:56:58.000 Powerless, okay?

02:56:59.000 I think that we need to understand, and some of the things... That's the key, that's what scares them.

02:57:05.000 So we're going to get into that in detail?

02:57:05.000 Yes.

02:57:06.000 We're just telling people what's coming up.

02:57:06.000 Yes.

02:57:07.000 What else do you want to get into?

02:57:08.000 Well, I'll follow your lead.

02:57:10.000 No man, I want to see what you wildcarded.

02:57:12.000 What else do you want to get into?

02:57:12.000 Okay.

02:57:13.000 Okay, what I would like to get into is I would also like to talk a bit About some possibilities of what we can be doing out there.

02:57:23.000 I want to be very positive.

02:57:25.000 Talk about solutions.

02:57:28.000 I think it begins with the seed of the universe like Gandhi said is in all of us.

02:57:32.000 And the Bible says we're made in the image of the Creator.

02:57:34.000 That's pretty heavy stuff.

02:57:36.000 Humans we create.

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02:57:46.000 It's the same thing, a beautiful soul.

02:57:48.000 And it tears my guts out to see the persecution of the innocent, and the persecution, the eugenics of the globalists. 0.94

02:57:54.000 And I want the globalists to know, and I think they know this, you're never going to inherit all the great things that humanity's going to have if you try to take it from other people.

02:58:02.000 The only way you're going to get anything is to try to give it to everybody else.

02:58:05.000 That doesn't mean buy into the fake counterfeit of, well, they give everything you've got to the government to distribute it.

02:58:10.000 That's the lie of control.

02:58:11.000 I'm talking about if you don't want justice and goodwill.

02:58:15.000 People ask, what do you stand for?

02:58:16.000 Goodwill.

02:58:17.000 I start with goodwill. 0.98

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03:00:22.000 All right, folks, we're in overdrive with Larry Pinckney, black activist, WG.org.

03:00:33.000 All right, you were getting into the power of humanity.

03:00:36.000 Let's spend five minutes on that and then come back, the final segment with you live here, getting into solutions.

03:00:40.000 Larry Pinckney.

03:00:41.000 I want to say that I think that all of us, all of us, Uh, men, women, children, black, white, brown, red, yellow, all of us need to understand that if we're going to bring about change, to change things for ourselves individually as well as everyone collectively, that means we have to understand that the power rests with us, not with the government, not with corporations, but with us.

03:01:05.000 We have to begin to communicate With each other.

03:01:09.000 Does that mean we're going to agree 100% of the time?

03:01:12.000 Absolutely not!

03:01:13.000 We don't want robots! 0.97

03:01:14.000 We want thinking, feeling human beings.

03:01:18.000 And I think that's very important.

03:01:20.000 Anybody who's in agreement with someone 100% of the time, somebody's lying.

03:01:24.000 And we don't want liars.

03:01:26.000 We want thinking, critically thinking, acting, doing people.

03:01:30.000 So ultimately, Alex, I feel, ultimately, that I see good things in the future.

03:01:36.000 I really do.

03:01:37.000 I see good things happening.

03:01:38.000 When I say good things, I mean people are waking up from being in a state of sheeple, if you will.

03:01:45.000 They're waking up to understand that we're the ones who can change our lot.

03:01:50.000 Okay?

03:01:51.000 And to me, that's extremely important because, you know, I've heard people say, well, you guys do, you just talk about all the bad things.

03:01:59.000 Well, we don't just talk about the bad things, we identify those... Well, the world is so beautiful and good, it's because I love all the beauty and the good stuff, that the evil that's growing makes me mad.

03:02:10.000 It's like if you have a forest fire out back your house, hey, don't talk about the fire, come in and have a beer!

03:02:10.000 Right.

03:02:16.000 What's gonna burn our house down if we don't put the fire out?

03:02:18.000 Exactly, good point.

03:02:19.000 I actually use that example myself when people criticize me for being on certain programs, including this one, and I ask them, What do you think about the substance of what the program was about?

03:02:31.000 Oh, that was good!

03:02:33.000 I said, well, if something does not compute, if that was good, the substance of what the program was about, what is your problem?

03:02:39.000 They said, well, it's just that it's that program.

03:02:42.000 Well, I think they don't want the criticism by trolls.

03:02:46.000 They misjudge the trolls attacking means you're doing good work and there's nothing to be afraid of.

03:02:52.000 But if you're not being criticized, no one's looking at you.

03:02:52.000 Right.

03:02:55.000 I mean, when you get big groups of people looking at you, you're going to get attacked.

03:02:58.000 Right, right.

03:02:59.000 That just goes with it.

03:03:00.000 And you know, that's what Brother Malcolm X said, too.

03:03:02.000 He said it in almost exactly the same words.

03:03:05.000 If you're not doing something for the people, you're not going to get attacked.

03:03:09.000 But if you are, if you're serving the people, Rest assured, you're gonna be attacked.

03:03:14.000 So, we gotta look at it from that positive.

03:03:17.000 Sure, that's what I'm saying, is that I don't have all the answers.

03:03:21.000 I hear stuff I say six months later, don't totally agree with it, because it's whatever mindset you're in, or how you're saying it.

03:03:27.000 You're like, oh, I wish I would have said it this way.

03:03:29.000 But, look, I'm not gonna overthink it.

03:03:31.000 They want us to all overthink it while they screw us, consciously.

03:03:34.000 I'm just trying to get people out of their coma.

03:03:36.000 You don't have to agree with me.

03:03:38.000 Wake up, man!

03:03:39.000 Stuff isn't good!

03:03:41.000 Get him out of that comatose state, you know.

03:03:44.000 Again, I hearken back to Brother Malcolm.

03:03:46.000 Malcolm talks about how, you know, you go to the dentist's office and the dentist shoots you up with Novocaine.

03:03:52.000 Meanwhile, you're bleeding all over the place, but you don't feel it.

03:03:55.000 You don't see it.

03:03:56.000 Because they've shot you up with Novocaine.

03:03:58.000 That's a good analogy, I didn't know he does.

03:03:59.000 Perfect.

03:04:00.000 Yeah, that was Malcolm's analogy.

03:04:01.000 We're deadened, yeah, yeah.

03:04:02.000 Exactly.

03:04:03.000 And then I say get rid of the deadening, or you say it, and you're causing pain.

03:04:08.000 No, I'm getting the deadening away so you know what's going on.

03:04:10.000 Exactly, and therefore do something about it.

03:04:13.000 You know, it's like the analogy you used about the house.

03:04:16.000 If the house is on fire and the neighbor says, well forget that, come, let's have a beer.

03:04:19.000 Well, I like beer, but come on!

03:04:21.000 The house is on fire, for crying out loud.

03:04:23.000 That's a great analogy yourself.

03:04:25.000 Well, I mean, I liken it to banging on somebody's door and going, hey, your house is on fire, and they go, don't be so negative.

03:04:30.000 And I'm like, I mean, it's like, you know.

03:04:33.000 That's very good.

03:04:34.000 That is.

03:04:34.000 I'm sorry.

03:04:35.000 I mean, they started setting up police checkpoints on the highway, searching everybody like 15 years ago.

03:04:39.000 People sued.

03:04:39.000 They got upset.

03:04:40.000 They ruled against it.

03:04:41.000 They quit it.

03:04:41.000 Now they're back.

03:04:42.000 It's like, don't be anti-police.

03:04:44.000 I'm not anti-police.

03:04:45.000 Right.

03:04:46.000 A country that has checkpoints is North Korea or Mexico.

03:04:48.000 And I've been to Mexico and you're driving to go see the pyramids and the military pulls over the bus and shakes the driver down and the driver gets on and is crying because they just robbed his wallet.

03:04:58.000 You know, I don't want to live like that.

03:05:00.000 We'll be right back.

03:05:01.000 Hello, I'm Alex Jones.

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03:08:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

03:08:04.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

03:08:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are live.

03:08:17.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

03:08:19.000 Larry Pinckney, the Information Minister at one point for the Black Panther Party, Minister of the Interior, just a really interesting political mind.

03:08:29.000 He was getting into the power of the people and that we have the power.

03:08:32.000 We were talking about getting people out of their commas and other solutions.

03:08:35.000 In this 12 minutes, you've got the floor, my friend.

03:08:38.000 Breakdown solutions, ideas for people out there.

03:08:42.000 Right, right.

03:08:42.000 And let me just say that, just historically, I want to be very correct about this, I was Minister of Interior for the Republic of New Africa, RNA as we called it.

03:08:52.000 I can't keep track of it all.

03:08:53.000 Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

03:08:54.000 I was in it and I still have it all for me.

03:08:57.000 Alright, I was a section leader in the Black Panther Party, I'm a veteran of the party, etc, etc.

03:09:01.000 Anyway, the point is this.

03:09:03.000 The people in this country, the people in this country have to be creative.

03:09:10.000 We have to come up with our solutions.

03:09:12.000 You remember in the first segment we were talking about Malcolm's analogy about the Novocain being shot in people's gums, making us numb so we don't see or feel our pain.

03:09:24.000 What we need to do after we get that novocaine out, and what do I mean by that?

03:09:28.000 I mean after we stop being couch potatoes, after we stop being disillusioned, after we stop being divided, and begin to understand.

03:09:37.000 Start taking it personal, the globalists are screwing us, instead of fighting with each other.

03:09:40.000 That's right, that's right.

03:09:42.000 That's point one.

03:09:43.000 And you know what?

03:09:44.000 We can do that in a heartbeat.

03:09:46.000 Individually and collectively.

03:09:48.000 We can do that in a heartbeat.

03:09:49.000 Is it easy?

03:09:50.000 It's easier than you think.

03:09:51.000 If somebody tries to push you around and rob your rights, you need to take it personal.

03:09:55.000 They're trying to rob you of your most precious possession that a lot of people have fought and died for.

03:10:01.000 Right, right.

03:10:01.000 And one of the things I have learned, and I'm still learning, I'm always learning, But one of the things that I have learned, especially in the last, I'd say, three to four years, despite all of my political background and organizing and blah blah blah, I've learned that it is important for me to reach out to other people, especially those people You don't think like me.

03:10:23.000 Oh no, they want to keep us in boxes.

03:10:25.000 Right, right.

03:10:26.000 Okay, and I've learned that it's important for me to listen to that perspective.

03:10:32.000 Because if I listen closely enough, I find out that there's a kernel in there that I agree with.

03:10:37.000 I may not understand everything that someone is saying, but I can get where they're coming from.

03:10:44.000 I can understand their pain because I feel that.

03:10:46.000 And that's enlightening.

03:10:47.000 Yes, yes, and empowering.

03:10:50.000 I hate that word because it's so overused and misunderstood.

03:10:55.000 But in the real sense of empowerment, that's empowering.

03:10:58.000 Because when I, and I'm talking about from personal experience, You know, Alex, three, four years ago, if someone had said to me, you know, you're going to be speaking with Alex Jones, I'd have looked at them, I'd have said, hmm, really?

03:11:14.000 But the more I began to pay attention to InfoWars, and it is a war on for our minds, it is, I looked at that, I said, my God!

03:11:26.000 That is correct!

03:11:27.000 It's a war on for our minds.

03:11:29.000 And when we understand this, we understand that we've got to do something about it.

03:11:34.000 It's one thing to say, okay, it's a war on for our minds, but that's what you're doing.

03:11:38.000 That's what InfoWars is doing.

03:11:39.000 That's what the entire crew here at InfoWars is doing.

03:11:42.000 Putting it out.

03:11:43.000 Food for thought.

03:11:44.000 Everyone's heard that expression.

03:11:46.000 Food for thought.

03:11:47.000 So, solutions.

03:11:48.000 Solutions.

03:11:50.000 The solutions will not come from the top.

03:11:54.000 They will come from the bottom.

03:11:55.000 They will come from us if we visualize a pyramid.

03:11:59.000 What holds up that pyramid?

03:12:00.000 That's why the system is obsessed with anything that's really grassroots and tries to take it over.

03:12:05.000 That's right.

03:12:05.000 Because the power is really there.

03:12:06.000 That's right.

03:12:07.000 And they know it.

03:12:08.000 Alright?

03:12:08.000 The system knows it.

03:12:10.000 The point is, it's time for us.

03:12:13.000 That's why they're so scared of citizens with cameras and want to intimidate us.

03:12:17.000 And by the way, it doesn't matter.

03:12:19.000 I'm so glad you mentioned that, Alex.

03:12:19.000 And you're so right.

03:12:21.000 You're so right.

03:12:22.000 It doesn't matter what their ideology is.

03:12:26.000 I'm talking about these citizens with the cameras.

03:12:28.000 They don't care.

03:12:29.000 Right-wing, left-wing, liberal, whatever they call themselves.

03:12:33.000 If you've got a camera, they're threatened.

03:12:35.000 And they're not threatened by a big news truck ever, because they know that's on a leash.

03:12:39.000 Yeah, they control that.

03:12:40.000 ABC, NBC, Fox, PBS.

03:12:43.000 Hey, who cares?

03:12:44.000 Rob Dewey got arrested on a hilltop in Pittsburgh with the media, showing them attacking peaceful demonstrators after the G20.

03:12:51.000 And they came up the hill and got everybody that was mainstream media and said, you can go.

03:12:54.000 And they arrested Dew and roughed him up.

03:12:57.000 He won a lawsuit against him.

03:12:58.000 But you're like, oh, you're with InfoWars?

03:13:00.000 You're going to jail, buddy.

03:13:02.000 And you know what?

03:13:03.000 That says that InfoWars is doing something right in a big way.

03:13:08.000 Right, correct, human.

03:13:10.000 That's what I mean when I say the people struggle.

03:13:13.000 I say keep it up.

03:13:15.000 Kudos to Rob.

03:13:16.000 Well it shows the sides though.

03:13:18.000 It shows that they knew.

03:13:20.000 Mainstream media's with us.

03:13:21.000 Right.

03:13:22.000 He's there with another expensive camera up on a hill just like they were.

03:13:25.000 You're going to jail.

03:13:26.000 We got the video.

03:13:27.000 They go, get on your knees! 0.53

03:13:30.000 In America, and G20's over for half a day.

03:13:33.000 They just wanted to go attack some college kids that were out in the park.

03:13:36.000 Of course, of course.

03:13:38.000 And of course, the narrative is always reversed, isn't it?

03:13:41.000 Think about it.

03:13:41.000 It's the college kids, it's sort of like, and I'm not saying this to all cops, but I've personally experienced, and I know many, many people of all colors have experienced, it's like when some cops beat you up, then you end up charged with assault.

03:13:55.000 Oh, it's on video all the time.

03:13:57.000 I mean, it's not funny, but a sense of humor, so... Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's like, man, you're gonna beat me up, that's one thing, but then you're gonna bear false witness?

03:14:03.000 Right, you're gonna charge me with beating myself up?

03:14:06.000 It's like, wow, that's deep!

03:14:09.000 You know, but, but... And they'll still do it when there's footage of it!

03:14:12.000 Yes!

03:14:13.000 And the jury will go, well, you did raise your arm after he'd already hit you five times, that's assault to block the blow.

03:14:19.000 Have you seen the new things where people are convicted where the cop's fist hits you, so his fist gets hurt and that's assaulting the cop?

03:14:19.000 Yes.

03:14:25.000 Woo! 0.99

03:14:25.000 No, no, that's like Israel and Syria. 0.99

03:14:28.000 Israel's in the Times of Israel, says Israel will bring down Assad if he retaliates for further airstrikes.

03:14:35.000 And they say, if you respond in any way, we will then carpet bomb you. 0.97

03:14:38.000 That is sick! 0.98

03:14:41.000 Think about it. 1.00

03:14:42.000 I'm going to bomb you, and if you respond, we're going to really invade you. 0.99

03:14:46.000 Which is what we want to do anyway. 0.97

03:14:48.000 Okay, but if you dare to defend... Syria for two years is laying there and taking our government and others putting Al-Qaeda in. 0.79

03:14:55.000 I was reading the Israeli papers.

03:14:55.000 You know the good news?

03:14:57.000 Half the comments are going, why are we funding Al-Qaeda?

03:14:59.000 Exactly.

03:15:00.000 I mean, even the Israelis are going, this is wrong. 1.00

03:15:02.000 I mean, it's like seeing Syria lay there for two years and take it is finally getting through to people. 0.95

03:15:07.000 It is.

03:15:08.000 Syria's smart.

03:15:09.000 I mean, you know, it's...

03:15:11.000 What they're doing, their tactics, they're definitely smart.

03:15:14.000 Because they, I think they understood.

03:15:16.000 At least some of them.

03:15:18.000 Well no, it's admitted to Sod Ridge Info Wars. 0.67

03:15:19.000 And I'm not saying he's a great guy, but that's come out.

03:15:22.000 It's not a question of great guy, no great guy.

03:15:24.000 It's a question of the people.

03:15:26.000 This is not a struggle in Syria of the people.

03:15:26.000 The people.

03:15:29.000 Al-Qaeda is killing the Alawite minority.

03:15:31.000 Exactly. 1.00

03:15:31.000 And the Christian, lining them up and killing them. 1.00

03:15:33.000 That's turning all the people, I've talked to high-level Sunnis who would be with the Sunnis that are doing this, but they're doing war crimes, so the Syrians are now unifying against it. 0.99

03:15:45.000 Right, right.

03:15:46.000 That's the power of the people.

03:15:48.000 It's backfiring though.

03:15:49.000 Why do psychos always think beating us and attacking us is going to intimidate us?

03:15:53.000 Because that's the way they figured that's what they think, therefore that's the way we think.

03:15:57.000 But that's not the way we think.

03:15:59.000 It's not the way we think.

03:16:00.000 And we're not going to accept that narrative.

03:16:02.000 We're going to be creative.

03:16:04.000 We're going to come up with our own narrative.

03:16:06.000 And you know, I was thinking as you were talking about Syria, I was also thinking about the same thing happened in Libya.

03:16:12.000 Same thing.

03:16:13.000 Am I saying Gaddafi, Muammar Gaddafi, was good or bad?

03:16:18.000 Well, he was actually good for Africa. 0.54

03:16:18.000 I'm not saying either. 0.54

03:16:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:16:20.000 You could say it was for ego or whatever.

03:16:21.000 He gave most of the money to build up infrastructure, and he was actually lifting Africa up. 0.84

03:16:25.000 Yes.

03:16:26.000 And he said the government's putting HIV in the shots, which they caught him.

03:16:28.000 Right.

03:16:29.000 I gotta say, you know, compared to... The fact is he was definitely becoming a good guy.

03:16:34.000 That's why they did it.

03:16:34.000 Yeah.

03:16:35.000 Well, and also... Well, I mean, they got his money to invest.

03:16:37.000 He came into the West. 0.69

03:16:38.000 Said, I want to be friends.

03:16:38.000 Right, right.

03:16:40.000 Well, see, you destabilize a region.

03:16:42.000 I don't mean you, obviously.

03:16:43.000 No, no, no.

03:16:44.000 Yes.

03:16:44.000 America.

03:16:45.000 This corporate government destabilizes a region.

03:16:49.000 There's a method to their madness. 0.99

03:16:51.000 They are quite insane, by the way. 0.93

03:16:53.000 But there's a method to their madness. 0.98

03:16:55.000 You destabilize that region.

03:16:56.000 You send it in like a cancer to infest the area.

03:17:00.000 The last thing that...

03:17:05.000 You know, the Obamatrons, and the Republicrats, Democrats, the last thing they want, the last thing they want is a stable country, a stable government.

03:17:15.000 But Bush, just like Webster Tarpley and our other guest said, and Professor Griff, in Obama Deception 1 that we made five years ago, or four, yeah, five years ago, is that they gotta have a black face to invade with AFRICON. 0.94

03:17:27.000 And we even predicted they're going to take over Libya and then have Al-Qaeda attack, and then have the West invade Africa to kill Al-Qaeda, but they won't even kill Al-Qaeda, they'll kill the groups they want, knowing Americans can't even find Africa on a map. 0.67

03:17:39.000 Exactly.

03:17:40.000 And so it's like, we're killing Al-Qaeda!

03:17:42.000 And meanwhile the government put Al-Qaeda in!

03:17:44.000 Right.

03:17:45.000 They developed Al-Qaeda, they groomed Al-Qaeda, they made Al-Qaeda, they created Al-Qaeda, and... They arm Al-Qaeda, they put Al-Qaeda in, and then say we're going to invade Africa to get Al-Qaeda, and then they don't even go get Al-Qaeda! 0.62

03:17:57.000 They go kill the great fighting al Qaeda! 0.83

03:17:58.000 Of course, of course. 0.99

03:18:00.000 And again, I smile, it's not funny.

03:18:02.000 It's sick.

03:18:03.000 It's sick. 0.55

03:18:04.000 It was an incredible crime against humanity to do that to Libya. 1.00

03:18:04.000 It really is. 1.00

03:18:07.000 Yes.

03:18:08.000 But our power is, our power collectively, as a people, black, white, brown, red, yellow people, our power is knowledge.

03:18:15.000 We know this.

03:18:16.000 So what are we going to do about it?

03:18:16.000 We know this.

03:18:18.000 We're going to reach out, we're going to connect with each other.

03:18:21.000 We're going to come up with ways and means, as Brother Malcolm said, we're going to go in the closet, but boy, when we come out of that closet, we're going to be united.

03:18:28.000 And we're going to have our disagreement, but we're going to have them in the closet.

03:18:31.000 Well, I mean, look, it's a crime to go to a stable country, destroy it, and then engage in ethnic cleansing. 0.99

03:18:36.000 Right.

03:18:37.000 Of black Africans, you know, 40,000 wound up and killed so far.

03:18:40.000 Did that wake up the black community to Obama?

03:18:42.000 I noticed it woke up Farrakhan.

03:18:45.000 I mean, to a certain extent.

03:18:45.000 Yes.

03:18:46.000 I mean, he came out and criticized his brother Obama when they did that in Libya, because that really is a crime.

03:18:52.000 Well, it woke up, to some degree, some other folks, too, such as Amari Baraka, aka Leroy Jones.

03:19:00.000 But, you know, we'll see if it was genuine or not.

03:19:03.000 I don't know.

03:19:03.000 I can't say.

03:19:04.000 Now, speaking for everyday, just everyday black folk, okay?

03:19:09.000 I think it is beginning to have an impact, especially among young blacks who are going, well, wait a minute, something doesn't compute here.

03:19:17.000 We're over here, we're bombing, but somebody's got to tell them!

03:19:20.000 That information has got to be gotten to them.

03:19:23.000 They've got to understand Libya is North Africa.

03:19:25.000 They've got to understand Somalia is East Africa.

03:19:28.000 They've got to understand that what is going on, and when you look at Syria, where is Syria in relation to Africa?

03:19:36.000 It's not on the African continent, but it's extremely close.

03:19:38.000 But again, I'm not from Africa.

03:19:40.000 Well, I guess originally everybody is.

03:19:41.000 But the point is, I have empathy.

03:19:44.000 In fact, I would tell young black folks, why do you only care about something in Central Africa?

03:19:48.000 I mean, I care about if they're committing a war crime in Libya, or in Syria, or in Jordan, or in the Balkans.

03:19:56.000 Exactly.

03:19:57.000 I mean, I don't care who it's happening to.

03:19:57.000 Exactly.

03:19:59.000 If it's wrong, we'll be right back.

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03:23:59.000 Final segment with Larry Pinkness.

03:24:13.000 It's hard to get off air with him.

03:24:16.000 And I think you're going to be on the Nightly News.

03:24:17.000 I don't know if Jakari Jackson's doing it or who's doing it, but you're invited to that.

03:24:20.000 I don't want to exhaust you too much.

03:24:21.000 We're going to get some good Austin Pollo Rico here, and then we're going to do an interview for Obama Deception 2.

03:24:28.000 Obama, Cynthia McKinney has said and others.

03:24:31.000 It's not that he's a lesser of two evils, he's more effective.

03:24:34.000 And when the whole evil globalist culture says he's our savior, I knew, oh my gosh, get ready, they're going to be able to run the whole thing here.

03:24:41.000 But you know, I mean, I knew about some of your early on past Marxist-Leninist type stuff.

03:24:45.000 People would ask me, why would you have Larry Pinckney on?

03:24:46.000 Because I've watched over the years how you've expanded, you were describing it as populism, you know, seeing these are all tools of control.

03:24:54.000 What is your view now politically?

03:24:56.000 Because now, Yeah, well, as you and I were talking about, Alex, the bottom line is, yes, I studied Marx-Leninism, Marxist-Leninism, Maoism.

03:25:05.000 Yeah, I studied these things.

03:25:08.000 But the more I began to... and that doesn't mean that I don't have some respect for some aspects.

03:25:15.000 But I evolved, and I'm still evolving.

03:25:18.000 I'm evolving into a peopleist, a populist.

03:25:23.000 You see, any kind of ideology, be it right-wing, left-wing, or any... It's always going to go to the individual.

03:25:28.000 Yes, that's it.

03:25:30.000 But it's an individualism where you love the individual, but then it creates a true diverse Uh, collectivism, not the false collectivism.

03:25:39.000 Notice the big mega-banks are always funding communism, just like Carol Quigley said, because it's another central control, like fascism.

03:25:46.000 Have you evolved, and I'm not saying I have all the answers, but have you evolved to the fact that it's got to be individual, but individuals have to then band together, and that basically, more of a real libertarian philosophy, not the fake corporatist, where it's a corporate collectivism.

03:26:01.000 See, I mean, all these terms mean nothing.

03:26:02.000 Right, right.

03:26:03.000 How would you describe yourself now, then?

03:26:04.000 I would describe myself as moving very strongly and quickly towards populism, alright?

03:26:12.000 This is why it's so important for me to be able to speak and communicate with anyone from any ideology, any ideology, okay?

03:26:20.000 I refuse to be narrow.

03:26:23.000 Oh, it's gotta be a Marxist-Leninist!

03:26:25.000 Oh, it's gotta be dialectical materialism!

03:26:27.000 Oh, it's gotta be, it's like, please!

03:26:29.000 You want to get out of the box?

03:26:29.000 Please!

03:26:30.000 Yes!

03:26:31.000 We've got to all get out of this box, if we really want change.

03:26:34.000 Now, if we don't really want change, then stop the BS.

03:26:38.000 Stop the BS, please, please, please.

03:26:40.000 Be honest, and say, I don't really want change.

03:26:43.000 I'm comfortable where I am. 0.99

03:26:44.000 I'm comfortable intellectually masturbating. 0.99

03:26:46.000 I like that! 0.99

03:26:47.000 Okay, be honest!

03:26:49.000 But no, I believe that if we are going to have people change, then we'd better get the heck out of the box.

03:26:57.000 The sooner, the better.

03:26:58.000 Exactly.

03:26:59.000 We don't want to replace one crony capitalist system with a crony communist system.

03:27:04.000 We want to, I mean I say it, get back to the Enlightenment, the Renaissance.

03:27:08.000 It's all about breaking up the cartels and empowering the individual.

03:27:11.000 And that's what they're scared of.

03:27:11.000 Right.

03:27:12.000 Harold Quigley said we like fascism, we like communism, we like socialism, we like it all because we can buy off whoever's in charge.

03:27:12.000 Right.

03:27:20.000 Just like they didn't like Gaddafi because he created a socialism, but it actually delivered 90% of the stuff to the people and built infrastructure.

03:27:28.000 They want a communism where it's a bunch of royal commies up in their little command center, everybody else are slaves.

03:27:33.000 And that's, I think that's a very, very important point that you've just made.

03:27:38.000 You see, any kind of ism Capitalism, communism, socialism, ask yourself what they really mean.

03:27:46.000 What does that really mean?

03:27:48.000 It means, your description, I'm going to have to keep that one in mind, watch this program, because I like the way you describe that.

03:27:53.000 They want a palatial elite, if you will.

03:27:58.000 They don't mind if they have a palatial elite, whether they call it communism, capitalism, socialism, whatever other ism they're going to come up with next.

03:28:07.000 But we, the people, have got to understand that if we are to really empower ourselves, I use that word again, but if we're really to empower ourselves, we have to dispense with that, we have to reach out to each other, we have to be honest, which is why I began earlier in this program, I began by saying, Alex, where is the so-called left now that drone man Obama is bombing and killing and maiming?

03:28:32.000 Where is he?

03:28:32.000 They feel like they're in charge now, reflected glory, so they bought into it.

03:28:37.000 So what is that?

03:28:37.000 Right.

03:28:38.000 That's hypocrisy.

03:28:40.000 That's deceit.

03:28:41.000 It's hypocrisy.

03:28:43.000 It's not being principled.

03:28:44.000 We have got to be principled. 0.99

03:28:46.000 That's more important than any idiocy. 0.99

03:28:48.000 Exactly. 0.99

03:28:49.000 If a Republican was in charge doing this, I'd be against them.

03:28:52.000 If people say, well, why are you bashing Obama?

03:28:53.000 Well, back when I didn't like Bush, I was a communist.

03:28:56.000 Now I don't like Obama. 0.98

03:28:57.000 I'm a right-wing racist extremist.

03:28:59.000 There's nothing to do with that.

03:29:00.000 I want justice, and I want to get our Bill of Rights and Constitution back, and I want to get true independence back, because it creates so much wealth.

03:29:08.000 Our only problem is our kids become decadent slobs. 1.00

03:29:11.000 I mean, nothing turns loose liberty like People being able to be upwardly mobile.

03:29:19.000 And the mega cartels, everything they can to block that.

03:29:22.000 We're out of time.

03:29:23.000 Larry Pinckney will be back on the Nightly News.

03:29:24.000 We're going to exhaust you today.

03:29:26.000 We're going to interview you for Obama Deception 2 next.

03:29:29.000 And then we're going to get you on the Nightly News if you want to do that.

03:29:31.000 And it's just great meeting you in person.

03:29:33.000 Thank you so much.

03:29:34.000 You know I love being here.

03:29:35.000 Absolutely.

03:29:36.000 It's awesome.

03:29:36.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Black Activist, WG.org.

03:29:41.000 I'm Alex Jones with Infowars.com.

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Alex Jones Show - May 16, 2013

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