Alex Jones Show - 20130610_Mon_Alex

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00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:16.000 You want answers?

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00:00:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:30.000 All right, good morning on this Monday, June 10, 2013.

00:00:33.000 Yes, the NSA spy scandal, it's all true.

00:00:39.000 They are listening to your phone calls.

00:00:42.000 They are reading your emails.

00:00:44.000 They are getting your logins, your passwords, your text chats, your files, everything you store in the online cloud is being scanned.

00:00:53.000 It's all true.

00:00:55.000 All the denials are complete lies.

00:00:57.000 They've all been caught, the tech companies, caught in their lies by the slides of the PRISM program, released now by Edward Snowden, who has just stepped forward yesterday to claim responsibility for leaking these slides to the Guardian and the Washington Post.

00:01:14.000 And this is the subject of our show today.

00:01:17.000 We're going to have three guests on today.

00:01:19.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:01:21.000 We're going to have Jim Mars joining in with some historical analysis and context of this outrageous spy program.

00:01:29.000 We're also going to have John Rappaport on in the second hour.

00:01:33.000 He's going to be joining us to give us some more information about Snowden himself and the nature of the spy program and what else they might be watching and listening to that hasn't yet been reported.

00:01:44.000 And in the third hour, we've got Texas Representative Steve Stockman on.

00:01:48.000 He has been outraged by these confirmed reports of the NSA spying program, and he's been putting out some hilarious tweets calling out the Obama administration, which, if you recall, promised in 2007 that it was going to be the administration of transparency.

00:02:05.000 Yeah, we weren't going to have government secrets anymore.

00:02:08.000 The government was going to answer to the people.

00:02:11.000 Well, guess what?

00:02:11.000 That was all a big lie, too.

00:02:13.000 It's just lies within lies within lies.

00:02:17.000 Now, if you're not familiar with this subject yet, let me just break it down for you very quickly.

00:02:24.000 Ed Snowden, a 29-year-old senior intelligence analyst, a computer... you might call him a geek, but a genius geek who worked for the CIA, and then he worked for a contractor that was providing services to the NSA.

00:02:39.000 He leaked details of the program to the Guardian and did an interview with Glenn Greenwald, an actual journalist.

00:02:46.000 Yes, they still exist.

00:02:48.000 And he's one of them, apparently.

00:02:50.000 And the Guardian published this, and so did the Washington Post, over the last few days.

00:02:54.000 And then yesterday, a video was distributed by the Guardian that is an interview between Glenn Greenwald and Ed Snowden, the whistleblower, that gave all the details Fascinating, amazing details.

00:03:07.000 Check out these quotes of what you heard in the video which describes, quote, turnkey tyranny.

00:03:16.000 He says, quote, we collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.

00:03:22.000 He says, any analyst at any time can target anyone, any selector, anywhere.

00:03:28.000 I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the president.

00:03:38.000 These are the words of Edward Snowden, the whistleblower who is now hiding out in Hong Kong and knows that they're going to try to kill him.

00:03:49.000 He is reportedly seeking asylum in Iceland, and we do have some breaking news for you on that coming up right after this break, where Iceland appears to be welcoming him to seek political asylum there.

00:04:02.000 There's an article about that on InfoWars.com right now by Kurt Nemo.

00:04:07.000 So check that out.

00:04:08.000 But that's the focus of today's show.

00:04:10.000 Everything about the NSA spy grid.

00:04:12.000 We're going to break it down for you of what they're scanning, what they're snooping into, Speaking of Snoop, we've got to get to some of Leno's quotes about the Obama administration.

00:04:25.000 He says, yes, Snoop is back in the news.

00:04:28.000 Not Snoop Dogg, Snoop Obama!

00:04:30.000 Leno's had some good lines lately.

00:04:32.000 He said, hey, forget about Big Brother watching you, now we actually have a brother watching you.

00:04:37.000 That's Leno's quote.

00:04:39.000 Very funny, but poignant comedy from Leno on that.

00:04:43.000 We've got other quotes coming up.

00:04:45.000 Great guests straight ahead, plus more analysis and breakdown of this exploding spy scandal from the NSA that exposes the lies and the deceptions of big government.

00:04:55.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:04:57.000 We'll be right back with all that and much more, so stay with us.

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00:08:12.000 In the heart of the resistance, you're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

00:08:17.000 All right, welcome back.

00:08:21.000 This is the Alex Jones Show on Monday, June 10, 2013.

00:08:24.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex, who is traveling right now.

00:08:29.000 He's actually on an airplane, arriving in a few hours here in the United States, back from the Bilderberg Conference in the UK.

00:08:37.000 Lots of excitement there, of course.

00:08:38.000 Lots of coverage of that over the past few days and all of last week here at InfoWars Studios.

00:08:44.000 But now we're covering the NSA spy scandal, the explosive revelations that have been emerging now throughout even the mainstream media, The Guardian, The Washington Post, and now hundreds, if not thousands, of mainstream media sources covering this explosive news, which revealed the top secret slides, the slideshow That revealed the government is spying on everything you do.

00:09:08.000 Your phone calls, your emails, your login passwords, your online storage files, your photos, your social media networking posts.

00:09:15.000 Everything is being spied on routinely, wholesale copied, archived, data mined, relationally I don't know the right word for it.

00:09:28.000 The intelligence community is basically looking at your data every way they can to get as much information out of it so that they can nail you.

00:09:36.000 They can nail you for things that are otherwise innocent.

00:09:40.000 And I want to get your comments on this because there's a lot of outrage out there.

00:09:46.000 I want to get callers today.

00:09:47.000 I haven't had many callers in the last couple of times that I've hosted.

00:09:51.000 So call in 800-259-9231.

00:09:53.000 We'd like to get you on the show to hear your comments.

00:09:58.000 We're going to move quickly between calls, so have a short comment ready please.

00:10:02.000 800-259-9231.

00:10:06.000 We'll start taking your calls here in just a few minutes.

00:10:09.000 Also coming up today on the show, we've got great guests lined up for you.

00:10:12.000 Author and researcher Jim Mars will be joining us at the bottom of this hour.

00:10:17.000 And in the next hour, we've got John Rappaport with additional analysis of just how damaging this is to the international surveillance and spy community.

00:10:26.000 Well, damaging them, but freedom for us, because you see, it's exposing the lies and the hypocrisy of government, where Obama claimed it was all going to be fully transparent, we're not going to keep any secrets from you, we're going to be honest with you, we're going to work to protect your interests and your rights, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:43.000 All lies, all coming out now.

00:10:46.000 So many scandals.

00:10:47.000 Another day, another scandal in the White House.

00:10:49.000 In fact, there's even a scandal about the State Department that has broken today.

00:10:52.000 It's up on DrudgeReport.com right now, if you want to check that out.

00:10:57.000 We're not even going to cover that today because we're so focused on last week's scandals and the weekend's scandals and the NSA spying scandal.

00:11:03.000 Another day, another scandal.

00:11:05.000 It's the IRS, it's the Department of Justice, it's the EPA, it's the NSA. 0.98

00:11:10.000 It's like another day, another piece of the alphabet gets exposed as being total, criminal, lying, corrupt outfit. 0.97

00:11:19.000 It's unbelievable. 0.66

00:11:20.000 Here are some things that you need to know and then we're going to go to your phone calls which are already coming in.

00:11:25.000 We're going to go to you just in a minute there, Taylor and Houston and others.

00:11:30.000 The big lies.

00:11:31.000 Here are the big lies about all this that you need to know.

00:11:33.000 Number one.

00:11:35.000 The government claimed it wasn't listening to your phone calls.

00:11:37.000 Those are Obama's words.

00:11:39.000 We're not listening to your phone calls or he said no one is listening to your phone calls.

00:11:43.000 They are listening to your phone calls.

00:11:44.000 They're recording all of your phone calls.

00:11:46.000 They're parsing them with actual recognition software that can listen to the words and create a text transcript and then data mine the text transcript.

00:11:56.000 That's what they're doing.

00:11:58.000 The second big lie.

00:12:00.000 The tech companies came out.

00:12:01.000 Apple, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo Mail, AOL, Skype, and others.

00:12:08.000 They all came out and said, no, the government doesn't have direct access to our servers.

00:12:13.000 That's not true.

00:12:14.000 That's a big lie.

00:12:16.000 Well, they're parsing words.

00:12:18.000 They're using lawyer speak.

00:12:20.000 It turns out, even if the government didn't have direct access to the servers, they have side door access.

00:12:26.000 Maybe not back door, but side door access.

00:12:28.000 All those companies push the data over to a side door, and then the government picks it up from there.

00:12:33.000 But then, Sunday, another top secret slide was released.

00:12:38.000 By the Guardian, which showed directly that in fact the government has direct server access.

00:12:46.000 It's right there in the slide, it says we have direct server access to Google, Apple, Yahoo, and others.

00:12:52.000 They have it, it's there, it's confirmed from the slide.

00:12:57.000 These companies are required by law to lie to you.

00:13:00.000 All these tech companies.

00:13:01.000 They have to lie to you or they will go to jail because that's part of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

00:13:07.000 FISA.

00:13:08.000 If they don't lie, they go to jail.

00:13:09.000 So of course they're lying to you.

00:13:11.000 Everybody is lying to you, okay?

00:13:13.000 Obama has been lying to you.

00:13:15.000 Feinstein and the Intelligence Committee, lying to you.

00:13:18.000 The tech companies, lying to you while they read your emails.

00:13:22.000 And the NSA, lying to you.

00:13:24.000 They're all lying to you.

00:13:26.000 And by now, more and more people are finally waking up and figuring that out.

00:13:30.000 And finally, the last big lie before we go to the phone calls, Obama has been defending all of this, astoundingly, because he's the guy who said we were going to have full transparency and then all this happens under his watch and he didn't shut it down.

00:13:46.000 He didn't eliminate these programs.

00:13:48.000 He carried on the Bush-era Patriot Act surveillance regime and made it worse.

00:13:55.000 Obama is worse than Bush on spying on Americans.

00:13:59.000 But he says, quote, I think we've struck the right balance.

00:14:04.000 The right balance, Obama says.

00:14:06.000 What balance is that, where the government spies on everything that we do, but if we go out and videotape a police officer on a public street, we go to jail and get prosecuted for wiretapping?

00:14:19.000 But the government can wiretap us 24-7 in complete violation of the Fourth Amendment?

00:14:25.000 Without even a warrant?

00:14:27.000 Without even any suspicion of you?

00:14:28.000 They can track everything you do online?

00:14:31.000 That's a balance, Obama? 1.00

00:14:34.000 You're a sociopath! 1.00

00:14:35.000 You're insane! 1.00

00:14:37.000 That's not balance. 0.98

00:14:38.000 Balance would be the government tracks only people that they know have a reason to be tracked.

00:14:44.000 They get a warrant.

00:14:45.000 They get a specific person.

00:14:46.000 They get a name.

00:14:47.000 This person, they say, might be a criminal, might be a terrorist.

00:14:50.000 They get a warrant.

00:14:51.000 I don't have any problem with that.

00:14:53.000 That's perfectly okay with me.

00:14:54.000 You get a warrant, you can track them.

00:14:56.000 But to wholesale track everybody, even innocent people, and then call it a balance? 1.00

00:15:03.000 Obama, you're insane. 1.00

00:15:06.000 You're a sociopath, alright? 1.00

00:15:07.000 That's absolute insanity. 1.00

00:15:09.000 Let's go to the calls and get some other public opinion on this.

00:15:12.000 Taylor from Houston, thank you for calling in.

00:15:15.000 You're on the air, go ahead.

00:15:18.000 Oh, you know, Mike, they've called us crazy, you know.

00:15:22.000 It's such a flip-flop, you know.

00:15:24.000 Now we're the ones that are on the attack, and they're the ones that are on the defensive.

00:15:28.000 And, you know, what just astounds me is The audacity of these people to look at somebody sitting right across them in a courtroom or in a transcripted meeting and sit there and pull out documents and show them, like, no, here's the evidence.

00:15:44.000 This is what you're doing.

00:15:45.000 And they can just look right back at them and go, meh.

00:15:48.000 Right.

00:15:49.000 Total denial.

00:15:50.000 And you're absolutely right.

00:15:52.000 We, the alternative media, the info warriors, we have been right all along.

00:15:57.000 Think about that.

00:15:58.000 How far back has Alex been warning people about this exact scenario?

00:16:03.000 He said, the government's reading your emails, and they said he was crazy.

00:16:06.000 Your thoughts?

00:16:08.000 I mean, that's exactly right, and I'm tired of being the one that's called crazy.

00:16:12.000 If I was the one sitting up there across from the courtroom with those people, I would slam my hand down on that desk and say, no!

00:16:19.000 You're the ones that are lying to us! 1.00

00:16:20.000 I'm tired of listening to your crap! 1.00

00:16:22.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:16:23.000 Good call, Taylor.

00:16:24.000 Thank you for calling in.

00:16:26.000 Let's go to D.C.

00:16:27.000 in West Virginia.

00:16:29.000 I guess that's the name, D.C.

00:16:30.000 You're on the air on the Alex Jones Show.

00:16:32.000 Go ahead.

00:16:33.000 Mike Adams, the man, what's going on?

00:16:35.000 I know they're going to try to get as many calls as possible, so I'll be quick.

00:16:38.000 I just want to say, I went to last year's Bilderberg, and as an American, I'm a little disappointed now to see the great protesters over there in the UK.

00:16:47.000 When I saw the screens, it looked like they had a good couple thousand people.

00:16:52.000 We had maybe a couple hundred.

00:16:53.000 But that's okay.

00:16:54.000 I'm glad people are waking up.

00:16:56.000 And real quick, one day, I'm really hoping that you could do, if not a whole show, maybe a YouTube or something, on the vaccinations.

00:17:06.000 Because I've got a little baby.

00:17:08.000 We have not given him the head beat yet because I don't believe in the head beat.

00:17:12.000 And then he's got his 10 months coming up soon.

00:17:14.000 So I'm really, really, really trying to wake his mother up.

00:17:17.000 Well, D.C., good for you.

00:17:18.000 You sound like a very compassionate, concerned, and responsible parent who wants to learn more about vaccines.

00:17:25.000 We will cover that on future shows.

00:17:27.000 I will cover that in more detail on future shows.

00:17:30.000 Today we're focusing on the NSA, the explosive spy scandal.

00:17:33.000 I'm sure you understand that.

00:17:35.000 We will continue to cover vaccines because the truth has to come out on all these issues.

00:17:39.000 GMOs, vaccines, radiation, the chemtrails, you name it.

00:17:44.000 And it's all going to come out.

00:17:45.000 So thank you for your comments, D.C.

00:17:45.000 It's coming out now.

00:17:47.000 We'll keep that in mind as we plan future shows.

00:17:49.000 Let's go to J.B.

00:17:50.000 in Alabama.

00:17:51.000 Go ahead, J.B., you're on the air on the Alex Jones Show.

00:17:54.000 Hey, thanks for taking my call, Mike.

00:17:57.000 Really, I want to ask the question, because I see a great business opportunity here.

00:18:01.000 Where is the company that's going to come in and set up a system with encrypted everything and not make a key?

00:18:09.000 You're absolutely right.

00:18:10.000 People want information, they hand them the paper with all this just garbled gunk on it, and they say, there you go.

00:18:19.000 There is a billion-dollar opportunity here for a company to set that up.

00:18:22.000 You're exactly right.

00:18:23.000 Very, very insightful.

00:18:25.000 We need a social media network that guarantees it doesn't share information with the government.

00:18:30.000 We need an online email system that guarantees that.

00:18:33.000 Now, there may be these systems that exist.

00:18:35.000 I've actually tried to look into some of them.

00:18:38.000 The things I've found so far are a little clunky or a little difficult to use, so somebody needs to make an easy-to-use, streamlined system, and it would be a multi-billion dollar opportunity.

00:18:46.000 The, you know, like the hushmail of social networking, something like that.

00:18:50.000 Very good point, JB.

00:18:51.000 Thank you for your call.

00:18:52.000 Let's go on to whistleblower number nine in Texas.

00:18:56.000 I guess we skipped one through eight, but let's go to whistleblower number nine.

00:19:00.000 Thank you for your call.

00:19:01.000 Thanks, Mike.

00:19:02.000 Frankly, I've been banned from City Hall and twice now banned from local Commissioner's Court.

00:19:07.000 Uh, yeah, is this, uh, Reefer Seed?

00:19:09.000 You got it!

00:19:10.000 Yeah, yeah, I recognize your voice.

00:19:12.000 I know, man, they're shutting you out of everything!

00:19:13.000 What's going on?

00:19:15.000 Well, they banned me from the local Commissioner's Court, and this time for 16 weeks!

00:19:19.000 Because I happened to object to his preliminary question.

00:19:23.000 It was, you know, belittling and harassing me.

00:19:26.000 I was sitting there literally on stage for a half hour, taking notes, and he said, OK, Ms.

00:19:30.000 Reaverstein, you got something relevant to say?

00:19:33.000 They hate the fact that you want to actually express your First Amendment rights there at City Hall.

00:19:33.000 Yeah, I know.

00:19:39.000 It's unbelievable.

00:19:40.000 Well, I wonder what they think now that all this is coming out, that basically everything that you and others in the alternative media have been saying, it's all true.

00:19:48.000 So maybe they should listen up.

00:19:49.000 We should banish them from City Hall.

00:19:51.000 We should banish them.

00:19:53.000 Yeah, exactly!

00:19:54.000 And my message is, don't give up.

00:19:55.000 Keep talking truth to these criminals.

00:19:57.000 Nixon's IRS client for minor.

00:19:59.000 That's right, Reefer C. Thank you for your call.

00:20:01.000 More power to you, man.

00:20:02.000 Stay with us.

00:20:03.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:18.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:24:20.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:24:20.000 We're covering the explosive NSA spy scandal.

00:24:25.000 It's been breaking in the news globally over the last, well, roughly 36 hours or so, especially since the whistleblower, Ed Snowden, stepped forward and claimed responsibility for breaking that information to the Guardian and the Washington Post.

00:24:40.000 Now Snowden, it turns out, is a Ron Paul supporter.

00:24:44.000 See, this is the Ron Paul revolution continuing.

00:24:47.000 Gotta thank Ron Paul for inspiring people to recognize when terrible government abuses are taking place right under their nose.

00:24:56.000 And Snowden did see what was happening and he sounded the alarm at great risk to himself.

00:25:02.000 But let's go to his actual words as he describes what he saw happening as a senior intelligence analyst working essentially for the NSA.

00:25:10.000 This is an interview conducted by Glenn Greenwald for The Guardian.

00:25:14.000 Let's hear what Snowden has to say.

00:25:16.000 Any analyst at any time can target anyone, any select or anywhere.

00:25:21.000 Where those communications will be picked up depends on the range of the sensor networks and the authorities that that analyst is empowered with.

00:25:29.000 Not all analysts have the ability to target everything.

00:25:32.000 But I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if I had a personal email.

00:25:43.000 Alright, so that's the key section right there that he had the authority to wiretap a federal judge.

00:25:49.000 Or you, or anyone, even the president.

00:25:52.000 You see, the power of this system, this is not about catching terrorists.

00:25:57.000 This is a system that can be used to get dirt on anyone in America, because everybody's got secrets.

00:26:03.000 So you can get dirt on a congressman, you can get dirt on a senator, you can get dirt on a CEO, you can find something that somebody is embarrassed about.

00:26:13.000 Some chat, some emails, some files, some voicemails, some phone call.

00:26:18.000 And you can use it against them in a blackmail operation where the NSA would essentially control all the power in the country.

00:26:25.000 Underground power.

00:26:27.000 Not the overt democracy, but covert power through blackmail and influence.

00:26:33.000 That's a very big deal, and it's a very dangerous situation to have any agency with that much power.

00:26:39.000 Almost omniscience.

00:26:41.000 The power of God to listen and watch what you do.

00:26:44.000 But not the ethics of God.

00:26:46.000 The power of God, but the ethics of Satan, basically, is what the NSA is.

00:26:51.000 So let's continue with phone calls.

00:26:53.000 Let's go to Aaron in Nevada.

00:26:55.000 Aaron, you're on the air.

00:26:56.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:26:59.000 Oh.

00:27:00.000 Buddy, it's not only the government.

00:27:03.000 Just happened up here.

00:27:04.000 We got this string of grocery stores called Raley's.

00:27:09.000 What happened was is that they had their database hacked at the corporate level.

00:27:14.000 And what happens is that when you're a customer and you swipe your debit card, your ATM card, your credit card, all of that information is stored on The grocery stores, in this case, database.

00:27:29.000 And they know this.

00:27:29.000 Right.

00:27:30.000 So the hackers go in and they steal all of that information.

00:27:35.000 How I found out about it was I got a call from the credit card company, which I used to buy my groceries.

00:27:43.000 And they told me, yeah, this is what happened.

00:27:45.000 They told me all the details.

00:27:46.000 They said, we're going to have to send you out some new cards.

00:27:48.000 Nobody.

00:27:49.000 They haven't tried to use your number and account information yet, but they could.

00:27:54.000 Well, you're exactly right, Aaron.

00:27:56.000 That's a good point.

00:27:57.000 But there have been many, many cases of corporations having their databases hacked and credit cards stolen.

00:28:01.000 You're right about that, and that is one thing that's bad, but what we're dealing with with this NSA spy scandal is companies that voluntarily turn over your details to the federal government without revealing it to their customers.

00:28:14.000 So that's a violation of federal law.

00:28:16.000 It's a violation of the Constitution.

00:28:18.000 It's also a violation of their terms of service agreements with Well, thank you.

00:28:23.000 Good to talk to you.

00:28:25.000 Just three very quick points.

00:28:26.000 One, President Obama's remarks on Friday in response to this whole revelation were nothing short of a collection of sophistries and lies.

00:28:31.000 And Habu, you are on the air on the Alex Jones Show.

00:28:34.000 Well, thank you.

00:28:34.000 Go ahead.

00:28:36.000 Good to talk to you.

00:28:38.000 Just three very quick points.

00:28:39.000 One, President Obama's remarks on Friday in response to this whole revelation were nothing short of a collection of sophistries and lies.

00:28:50.000 Absolutely.

00:28:50.000 Yeah.

00:28:51.000 Two, this is a seminal moment for American people. - Wow.

00:28:56.000 While we were aware of this kind of spying, we didn't realize the breadth and depth and the extent and thoroughness of this.

00:29:04.000 This is almost dystopian, completely.

00:29:07.000 So it's a time for Americans to rally around the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

00:29:12.000 It isn't a Republican or Democrat matter.

00:29:15.000 And lastly, you know, for the long, this is a question I haven't heard answered or even brought up.

00:29:20.000 For the longest time, we were told about this program saying, well, it goes through the courts and all that.

00:29:27.000 Kind of made to feel good about it.

00:29:30.000 But I mean, one has to wonder, how can a court authorize for, you know, phone companies to... Illegal acts.

00:29:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:39.000 For millions.

00:29:40.000 Really good points, Habu.

00:29:40.000 For millions.

00:29:42.000 We've got to go to break, but I thank you for your call.

00:29:44.000 Really good points.

00:29:45.000 Very coherent arguments there.

00:29:46.000 We must rally to restore the Republic.

00:29:49.000 And Rand Paul is actually introducing a bill to restore the Fourth Amendment.

00:29:52.000 So we'll talk about that and play that video from Rand Paul later.

00:29:55.000 Stay with us.

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00:33:34.000 This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in for Alex Jones today, who is on an airplane, actually getting back to the United States after protesting Bilderberg.

00:33:45.000 And callers, please stay on the line.

00:33:47.000 We are going to go ahead and take some of your calls as Jim Mars joins us.

00:33:51.000 I'd like to direct some of your questions to Jim.

00:33:53.000 Now, Jim Mars is a legendary researcher, author, writer, a true, you might call him an old-school journalist in the fact that, gee, he checks his facts.

00:34:03.000 You know, real journalism.

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00:34:30.000 And Jim Mars joins us now on the Alex Jones Show to give us his analysis of what's happening with Snowden, the whistleblower, and the explosive NSA spy grid scandal that's now breaking big all over the world.

00:34:41.000 Jim, welcome to the show.

00:34:43.000 Hey Mike, it's a pleasure to be with you.

00:34:45.000 Yeah, I find it real interesting because I'm old enough to have gone through the Pentagon Papers scandal thing and I remember when that first broke and everybody's going, oh well there's nothing to that, but don't mind the man behind the curtain.

00:35:01.000 And of course that resulted in the resignation of a president.

00:35:06.000 We keep our fingers crossed that something similar might happen on this thing if we keep the story in front of us.

00:35:13.000 And I think the key thing to remember is that Ed Snowden basically is not telling us anything That so many of us knew already.

00:35:22.000 What he's doing is giving inside confirmation to the fact that your government spies on you, okay?

00:35:30.000 And it has nothing to do with security, because the whole war on terrorism is basically a fraud anyway, because yes, there are foreign people who would like to harm the United States, but if left to their own devices, they probably couldn't afford to rent a camel to get over here. 0.89

00:35:48.000 The people we have to worry about are the people who are leading and ordering about people like Ed Snowden.

00:35:58.000 Well, Jim Snowden actually addresses some of what you said there.

00:36:01.000 He says that when this first began, the FISA program did mostly focus on foreigners, you know, non-Americans.

00:36:09.000 But he says increasingly it was turned, that entire security apparatus, the spy grid, was turned against Americans and is now used domestically.

00:36:19.000 And this is his quote.

00:36:21.000 He says now that we gather more information, where's that actual quote, more information Well, and I'll tell you, if you really stop and look at it and back off and view the big picture, what's very, very disturbing to me is that when I was a young man, if you spoke about the Constitution and the Republic,

00:36:48.000 and true liberty and freedom, you were considered a patriot, and you were considered a fine, upstanding American.

00:36:57.000 Today, according to material that's been put out by the Obama administration and passed around to police departments and other law enforcement by the fusion centers, if you speak about the Constitution and if you support the freedom and liberty and if you speak about the Constitution and if you support the freedom and liberty and criticize the government, you're some I mean, where are we going, folks?

00:37:22.000 It's worse than the McCarthy era. 0.66

00:37:24.000 Well, let's talk about that because you have written about JFK extensively.

00:37:29.000 In fact, you've researched the JFK assassination more than anyone, so you can actually give us a historical context of this.

00:37:37.000 Can you compare this today to the Nixon-Watergate scandal?

00:37:42.000 Can you give us a sense of scale of how much bigger and how much more dangerous this NSA spy scandal is compared to what Nixon did?

00:37:51.000 Well, yes, and again, because with Nixon and Watergate, you're just dealing with a corrupt president who was using the arm of the federal government to attack his political enemies.

00:38:04.000 Today, they are attacking everybody, okay?

00:38:08.000 And by the way, people should be cognizant of the fact that Watergate was a presidential assassination.

00:38:16.000 All right.

00:38:17.000 In fact, it was an extension of the Kennedy assassination.

00:38:21.000 The big difference, of course, was that Kennedy was physically killed, while Nixon was just politically killed.

00:38:28.000 And both of them were orchestrated.

00:38:31.000 It's like one of the members of the infamous Warren Commission was bemoaning the fact, he said, we have to show the world that the United States is not just another banana republic.

00:38:43.000 Okay, where you can shoot the leader and take over. 0.52

00:38:43.000 Right. 0.52

00:38:46.000 But unfortunately, folks, we are just another banana republic. 0.97

00:38:50.000 So, Jim, if...

00:38:51.000 Bigger and meaner and, you know, with better weaponry.

00:38:54.000 Julian Assange even spoke to that recently.

00:38:57.000 He talked about the catastrophic breakdown of law and order in the United States, and he's right about that.

00:39:02.000 But give us this answer, Jim.

00:39:05.000 If Nixon was forced to resign over the Watergate scandal, which was minuscule compared to what we're seeing today, what should be done with Obama today if we are a country of law?

00:39:20.000 What should happen to him?

00:39:22.000 Well, several things should have happened long before now.

00:39:25.000 Number one, I know everybody rolls their eyes and goes, oh, this is just some politicking.

00:39:33.000 But I think the evidence is certainly strong enough.

00:39:37.000 Uh, to point out that he is not even constitutionally qualified to be president, that there should have been at some point a legitimate hearing.

00:39:45.000 The Supreme Court has never ruled on his eligibility.

00:39:49.000 They simply refused to look at it.

00:39:51.000 And that's a starting point.

00:39:54.000 Second thing would be grand juries.

00:39:56.000 And the main thing is, and the thing that I hope this might lead to, is impeachment proceedings.

00:40:04.000 I mean, if we can impeach Bill Clinton because of a stain on a dress, surely we can impeach Obama over loss of liberty, loss of sovereignty, murdering people around the world, designating American citizens for assassination without trial Come on.

00:40:23.000 I know.

00:40:24.000 I mean Bill Clinton was only stalking one woman and Obama's stalking all women and men and everybody in the United States.

00:40:31.000 Jim, are you up to take a few calls?

00:40:33.000 Sure.

00:40:34.000 All right.

00:40:34.000 Let's go to our callers who've been waiting patiently.

00:40:36.000 Marcus in Texas.

00:40:38.000 Marcus, you're on the air.

00:40:39.000 Direct your question please to Jim.

00:40:43.000 Can you give me just a second to take my phone off the Yeah, go for it, man.

00:40:48.000 And while you're doing that, let me give out the web address of Jim Mars.

00:40:50.000 It is jimmars.com.

00:40:52.000 That's Mars with two Rs, okay?

00:40:55.000 M-A-R-R-S. 1.00

00:40:56.000 jimmars.com will get you information about Jim and his books and his research.

00:41:00.000 Now, caller Marcus, go ahead, sir.

00:41:03.000 Okay, I'm back.

00:41:04.000 Jim, do you remember about 2,000 years ago, there was a man who was completely unselfish and gave himself, just like Mr. Snowden, Oh yes, I do.

00:41:19.000 In fact, there's been several people like that.

00:41:22.000 And isn't it interesting how that the people who advocate tyranny and control and propagate fear and loathing, they seem to prosper and do well, but the people like the fellow you're talking about, plus about a dozen others I could name, who say, let's all get along, let's be peaceful, let's love our fellow man, and they tend to get assassinated or strung up in one way or another, don't they?

00:41:50.000 Yeah, and why...

00:41:51.000 Yes, sir.

00:41:51.000 Well, good question, Colin, but let me ask this, too.

00:41:54.000 Why do we now have apologists for all of this, Jim?

00:41:57.000 We've got these, you know, predictably, the Liberals and the Democrats are out there running around on the mainstream media saying, oh, who cares that they're reading all our email and listening to all our phone calls?

00:42:07.000 We can trust Obama!

00:42:09.000 He's our savior!

00:42:10.000 It's insane!

00:42:11.000 That's right.

00:42:12.000 Well, all I can picture is a middle class German in the 1930s who said, well, I'm not doing anything wrong.

00:42:21.000 What do I care if the government snoops on me and spies on me and launches wars all around the world?

00:42:30.000 You know, because I am not guilty.

00:42:33.000 I am merely following my orders.

00:42:36.000 Exactly.

00:42:37.000 Exactly.

00:42:37.000 Smell the history.

00:42:39.000 Well, now, Rand Paul, we're going to play this video later, Rand Paul is now saying that he wants 10 million Americans to join in a class action lawsuit that he wants to take to the Supreme Court to challenge all of this.

00:42:53.000 But let me ask you this, Jim, even if the Supreme Court ruled that this was illegal and unconstitutional, This NSA spy system isn't going to go down voluntarily.

00:43:02.000 They may say, oh yeah, we agreed not to spy on Americans anymore.

00:43:05.000 Yeah, wink, wink, cross your fingers behind your back.

00:43:07.000 I mean, come on, it's a joke.

00:43:09.000 They're going to do whatever they want because they are a runaway criminal gang that recognizes no boundaries and no law.

00:43:15.000 How do we ever stop this, Jim?

00:43:17.000 Well, for one thing we can do, I'll tell you one little trick I've been doing just to thwart the system, because as I said in the beginning, this is nothing new.

00:43:28.000 It's new that somebody on the inside has come forward and says, yes, we're doing all this, as opposed to the denials by both government and the communications companies.

00:43:40.000 Well, what we know they've been doing for a long time with their supercomputers is recording everything that goes, emails and telephone calls and everything else.

00:43:50.000 And then it's run through a filter, see?

00:43:52.000 And if you say certain words like Osama bin Laden or nuclear bomb or Iraq, Afghanistan, then it flags it and then people will start listening to find out what you're saying.

00:44:04.000 So, what we do is we overload the system.

00:44:07.000 Every time you call up your mom, you say, hey, mom, Osama bin Laden sends a nuclear bomb to see if you've had any drones come over.

00:44:16.000 And you throw in every word you can think of before you start your conversation, and then you can overload them.

00:44:23.000 You know, that's actually a really good strategy.

00:44:25.000 I'm glad you mentioned that.

00:44:26.000 That's the noise strategy.

00:44:28.000 Because if you think about it, this guy Snowden, who came forward, he's just one of probably thousands of analysts, many of which are probably in their 20s, who are sitting around at these desks Just analyzing and listening to people's phone calls that have been flagged by the system.

00:44:43.000 So you're right.

00:44:43.000 If you can seed all of these phone calls with these kinds of words, and even in your emails and so on, then yeah, they're going to flag you, but they're going to waste all their time listening to nonsense.

00:44:54.000 Exactly.

00:44:55.000 And of course, then there are those who say, well, you're going to harm our national security.

00:44:59.000 Well, if you go back and actually look at the terrorist attacks that we've had in this country, beginning with 9-11, you're going to find that every one of them involves a CIA or FBI informant.

00:45:17.000 In other words, it's all agents provocateur.

00:45:21.000 They've all been created, folks.

00:45:25.000 They're the ones setting it up so they have an excuse to spy on us, and then they can... It's the oldest trick in the book.

00:45:31.000 I mean, you go back to the Nazis who set fire to the Reichstag, to their parliament building, and then blamed it on communist terrorists, and began to eradicate the Communist Party in Germany.

00:45:45.000 And they always claim they need more power, they need to listen to more people.

00:45:49.000 Jay Leno, here's his quote.

00:45:51.000 Quote, we wanted a president that listens to all Americans.

00:45:55.000 Now we have one.

00:45:57.000 Let's take another caller.

00:45:57.000 Good for you, Jay.

00:45:59.000 Ryan in Minnesota.

00:46:01.000 Ryan, you're on the Alex Jones Show with Jim Mars and Mike Adams.

00:46:04.000 Go ahead, Ryan.

00:46:06.000 Yes, hi.

00:46:06.000 It's nice to talk to both of you today.

00:46:09.000 I'm happy to see that this information has finally been made public.

00:46:13.000 Most of us in the know have probably I already assumed it was taking place, but the actual breadth and depth of the information that they have and can store is just, you know, crazy.

00:46:24.000 Mind-boggling, yeah.

00:46:26.000 I'm wondering what's next.

00:46:28.000 You know, if we're not on our computer or at home or have a cell phone on us, are they going to make us wear some kind of microphone and camera?

00:46:35.000 You know, we don't want to be away from technology that could possibly track and record everything we're saying.

00:46:41.000 Well, check this out.

00:46:42.000 I saw a camera being announced.

00:46:45.000 It's some kind of a camera that takes, you clip it onto your shirt and it takes a photo of your entire life.

00:46:51.000 It takes a photo every 60 seconds of everything you do all day long and then it uploads it to the cloud.

00:46:59.000 I wouldn't doubt it, and it might be mandatory here in the future.

00:47:02.000 Who knows?

00:47:03.000 Good point!

00:47:04.000 They might say, oh, you don't get Obamacare, you don't get healthcare, unless you wear all this surveillance equipment.

00:47:09.000 Yeah, but go ahead with your question.

00:47:10.000 I wouldn't wear anything anyway, guys, because if you think about it, every time you pull up at a stoplight or walk up to a corner, there's cameras, and I'm sure there's no big technical problem to put listening devices there.

00:47:23.000 Well, they've got them in the lamppost.

00:47:24.000 Remember that story from, I don't know, a year ago or something here on InfoWars?

00:47:28.000 The streetlights are actually fitted with microphones in some places to listen to you.

00:47:33.000 Oh, but wait, that's a conspiracy theory.

00:47:35.000 No, no one's listening to you.

00:47:37.000 But go ahead with your question though, caller.

00:47:41.000 Yeah, I'm just wondering how much more, how further could they possibly erode what we have left of the Fourth Amendment?

00:47:48.000 I mean, what else besides, you know, stopping everybody when they drive down the road for no reason?

00:47:55.000 They will take all you give them.

00:47:58.000 Alright?

00:47:58.000 And we have been giving, giving, giving.

00:48:00.000 It's time to say that's it.

00:48:02.000 No more.

00:48:02.000 And the answer to that, too, Ryan, is that they'll have mind-reading technology.

00:48:06.000 They will literally read your mind, and they'll put in pre-crime.

00:48:09.000 You know, it's just like that movie, what was it called, with Tom Cruise Minority Report?

00:48:15.000 Yeah.

00:48:15.000 That movie could become a reality.

00:48:19.000 They want to read your mind.

00:48:19.000 That's where they want to go.

00:48:20.000 But great call, Ryan.

00:48:21.000 Any further comments on that, Jim, before we go to the next call?

00:48:24.000 Have you ever heard of a Yotta bike?

00:48:24.000 Yeah, quickly.

00:48:27.000 No.

00:48:28.000 Okay.

00:48:30.000 They are building, the National Security Agency is in the process of completing a huge project A compound, $2 billion compound in Utah, that is one-third larger than the U.S. capital to store all forms of communication.

00:48:51.000 So in other words, they're not only listening, they're storing it all the way.

00:48:55.000 And they're going up to a yottabyte, okay?

00:48:58.000 A yottabyte?

00:49:00.000 What's that?

00:49:01.000 Well, you already know about gigabytes.

00:49:01.000 Okay.

00:49:04.000 That's the most commonly used unit for computer hard disk storage.

00:49:08.000 And a petabyte, that's a thousand petabytes equals an exabyte.

00:49:12.000 And a thousand exabytes equals a zettabyte.

00:49:15.000 And a thousand zettabytes equals a yottabyte.

00:49:18.000 In other words, a yottabyte It holds, you know, one quadrillion gigabytes, and the average household computer holds about 200 gigabytes.

00:49:31.000 They are now putting in the capacity to not only listen, but to store all of the information on everybody.

00:49:40.000 Well yeah, and what do you think they're going to use this for?

00:49:42.000 Are they going to use this to help uplift humanity?

00:49:46.000 It's by selling it to commercial enterprises so they can pinpoint your marketing needs and pinpoint you for advertising.

00:49:57.000 And then they'll figure out ways to use that for psychological warfare operations so that they can get you to believing in just about anything they want you to believe in.

00:50:09.000 This is massive slavery.

00:50:09.000 It's incredible.

00:50:11.000 This is so far beyond 1984.

00:50:12.000 This is Orwellian to the extreme.

00:50:16.000 Let's go to another caller to get some more comments.

00:50:19.000 Bill from Philadelphia.

00:50:20.000 Bill, you're on the air with Jim Mars.

00:50:21.000 Go ahead.

00:50:23.000 Yeah.

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00:50:23.000 Hi, Jim.

00:50:25.000 I just wanted to make a comment and then you guys can add to it what you see fit.

00:50:30.000 People in this country have to stop having the opinion that if I'm doing nothing wrong, then what does it matter?

00:50:37.000 Well, it does matter because there's a dossier being created on every American in this country.

00:50:42.000 What I have done to try to limit my exposure is cash as much as possible, unplug the cable... Hey Bill, stay with us.

00:50:52.000 Will you stay on the line?

00:50:53.000 We got to go to break, but I want to get more of your tips on the other side of this break.

00:50:56.000 So just stay with us.

00:50:57.000 We'll continue with you right here on the Alex Jones Show.

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00:54:59.000 Had a little bit too much chocolate today.

00:55:01.000 Jim Mars continues with us.

00:55:03.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:55:04.000 No, this is not NPR.

00:55:06.000 You're tuning into the Truth Radio, actually the alternative media, which is now the new mainstream media, since the alternative media likes to pretend none of this exists.

00:55:17.000 They told Alex years ago that he was crazy to say the NSA was listening to your phone calls and reading your emails.

00:55:23.000 Turns out he was right all along, once again.

00:55:26.000 And another person who was right is, of course, Jim Mars, who continues with us as a guest in this segment.

00:55:32.000 Jim, Continuing with this story, what do you think is going to happen to the whistleblower, Ed Snowden?

00:55:38.000 Does he die within weeks or days?

00:55:41.000 What happens?

00:55:42.000 No, they're a little smarter than that.

00:55:44.000 If he should suddenly get run over tomorrow, I think everybody in the whole world would go, aha!

00:55:51.000 You know, so now that's not going to help their cause any.

00:55:54.000 No, they'll come out with some expert, some psychiatrist, some psychologist, and they'll all start Give him that psycho babble and try to say, well, he's just delusional and he doesn't know what he's talking about.

00:56:07.000 But the problem is he does know what he's talking about.

00:56:10.000 And as I said before, in fact, as we said at the beginning of the show, he's basically only telling us what we already knew to be true.

00:56:19.000 But you actually kind of stole some of my thunder there because the big point I was going to make is that everyone who's been pointed to and called a conspiracy theorist, and that's yourself, Mike Adams, that's Alex Jones, that's myself, you know, and a lot of that's Alex Jones, that's myself, you know, and a lot of others, turns out, gee, we're Okay.

00:56:42.000 In fact, that's the only thing that keeps my sanity because sometimes I try to catch myself up and go, hey Mars, maybe you're just making stuff up.

00:56:51.000 Maybe just looking at things the wrong way.

00:56:53.000 Maybe you are just a conspiracy theorist.

00:56:56.000 So I get real objective and I sit back and I'll look at all of the evidence and all of the facts and all the information I have and I go, no.

00:57:05.000 It's all true!

00:57:06.000 The same thing I'm sure that you've done, Mike.

00:57:09.000 Yeah, in fact, we have a caller on this very point.

00:57:11.000 Gary from New Mexico.

00:57:13.000 Gary, welcome to the show.

00:57:14.000 You have comments about Alex mentioning all this years ago, I understand?

00:57:19.000 Actually, yes.

00:57:21.000 Jim and Mike, you guys have in your archives a video from Bill Benny, the article of Adan Salazar, August 28, 2012.

00:57:33.000 And when I called in, I mentioned that Bill Benny knows if he can connect the dots to Operation Thin Thread, Trailblazer, and now what he came out with, uh, Alex... Oh, and Stellar Wind.

00:57:54.000 And Jim said it exactly.

00:57:56.000 You can connect the dots to Snowden, to Stellar Wind, to the Theta.

00:58:02.000 Yeah, all the puzzle pieces are all coming together now.

00:58:05.000 We see what's happening.

00:58:06.000 Culture of intimidation with the IRS, the Department of Justice, surveilling journalists, and now all this comes out with the NSA.

00:58:14.000 Jim, we've only got about 30 seconds in this segment.

00:58:16.000 Yeah, well, there's no justice in the Justice Department, and there's no intelligence in the intelligence community.

00:58:16.000 Your comments.

00:58:23.000 It's time for the people to start taking the power back to themselves and trying to turn the United States of America back into a freedom-loving republic.

00:58:33.000 Well said, Jim, and we're going to go to break here shortly, but we're going to continue on the other side of that with five more minutes of Jim Mars and his comments on the breaking NSA scandal, and we'll be right back.

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01:00:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:32.000 Well, the NSA spy grid scandal has exploded onto the global scene.

01:00:36.000 Now people are realizing their government has been lying to them and spying on them in ways they never could have imagined before.

01:00:44.000 It's so devastating to the credibility of the government that now it has a lot of people asking...

01:00:50.000 Is it time for a citizen's revolt against this big brother expansion of government power?

01:00:58.000 And continuing in our last segment with author Jim Mars of jimmars.com.

01:01:02.000 That's two R's on the Mars.

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01:01:07.000 Jim is going to give us some more information on why this matters.

01:01:10.000 So Jim...

01:01:11.000 We were just talking about what you think might happen to Snowden.

01:01:14.000 Apparently we're being told that he is now missing in Hong Kong and faces a fear of extradition there.

01:01:21.000 Might be trying to sneak his way over to Iceland.

01:01:23.000 That's a long haul though, isn't it?

01:01:25.000 Yeah, it's a long haul.

01:01:26.000 Besides that, hey, we are indeed in the global village today.

01:01:32.000 You can't get away from it.

01:01:33.000 He went to Hong Kong because Hong Kong, although now part of China, does have a certain amount of autonomy.

01:01:40.000 Of course, I remember visiting in Tibet, and they were told there they had some autonomy, and then as soon as they tried to exercise their autonomy, the Chinese swooped down and killed a bunch of them and frightened them out.

01:01:54.000 But here's the thing.

01:01:55.000 There is no more real nations, OK?

01:01:58.000 Because at the very top of the power pyramid, in China even, you find the very same people.

01:02:05.000 I mean, they practically own the United States.

01:02:07.000 They were just recently given entree to the Federal Reserve, our reserves, and they have drawing rights like everybody else.

01:02:14.000 They're members of the G20 that's all being administered through the old Bank of International Settlements, the World Bank.

01:02:24.000 And at the very top, it's the same people controlling both.

01:02:28.000 But this gives us an opportunity because they want to continue to keep the facade going that somehow we're enemies with China.

01:02:36.000 So in China, they can report pretty openly about all the corruption and the bad stuff going on in America.

01:02:42.000 While in America, we can report on the bad stuff going on in China.

01:02:47.000 But in either country, you can't report on what's happening in that country.

01:02:50.000 because they have control over the media.

01:02:52.000 That's right.

01:02:53.000 What you do is you start listening to the Chinese sources to find out what's happening here, and the Chinese need to start listening to U.S. media to find out what's happening over there.

01:03:02.000 It's an oddball thing, but I think you'll agree with me that at the top, the leadership is the same.

01:03:08.000 Absolutely.

01:03:10.000 They're all interested in total domination over the people and if you look at what Snowden gave as his justification for why he stepped forward, he was saying that he did not want to live in a country where this kind of surveillance is happening on a routine basis.

01:03:24.000 He actually had some morals and some ethics.

01:03:29.000 He was a Ron Paul supporter.

01:03:31.000 He saw what was going on and he decided to step forward even knowing, because he worked for the CIA, knowing that they would try to kill him.

01:03:38.000 Yeah.

01:03:39.000 You know, you mentioned Ron Paul.

01:03:41.000 I am probably one of the few people who have actually and legally voted for Ron Paul for President of the United States.

01:03:49.000 That was in 1988 when he ran as the candidate for the Libertarian Party.

01:03:56.000 And all I've got to do is say this.

01:03:58.000 Going all the way back into the 80s, Ron Paul was the only man who shone any backbone, who spoke truth, who spoke to truth, who tried to tell us what's going on, and tried to tell us here's what you could do about it, and he's always ended up being, you know, tail last, and oh, just forget him, and never mind about him, and blah blah blah.

01:04:19.000 Why do we continue to fall for the media hype of the worst people in the whole world.

01:04:25.000 And when we finally get somebody that's got some sense and actually probably has the best interest of everyone at heart, and, of course, he's not very dynamic because he looks like and acts like just kind of an old country doctor.

01:04:41.000 But, of course, wait a minute, he is just an old country doctor.

01:04:45.000 The very type of people person that we need in a leadership position.

01:04:50.000 We're out of time on this segment, but great insights and everybody, I want to encourage you to check out Jim Mars' website and also his book, Our Occulted History.

01:04:58.000 Thank you, Jim, for joining us on the Alex Jones Show today.

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01:08:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:28.000 All right, welcome to the second hour of the Alex Jones Show, the first hour of the This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex.

01:08:40.000 He'll be back on the show tomorrow with a lot to say about this explosive scandal, the NSA spy grid scandal.

01:08:48.000 Now, the whistleblower Ed Snowden.

01:08:51.000 He has stepped forward at great risk to his own life and also potentially the lives of his family members.

01:08:58.000 Who knows what these spooks are going to do because of this?

01:09:01.000 But he has stepped forward, of course, in this groundbreaking interview.

01:09:04.000 It's probably the biggest story of the century in terms of government surveillance.

01:09:10.000 It's so much bigger than anything else, even Watergate or anything even approaching that.

01:09:15.000 Glenn Greenwald, a journalist from The Guardian, this is the biggest story of his life, absolutely.

01:09:20.000 No question about it.

01:09:22.000 Now we're going to play, in just a second, we're going to play another segment from that interview.

01:09:26.000 But first, I want to tell you that one of these leaked slides of the PRISM data collection system that Snowden leaked to the Guardian shows the actual dates at which these services were activated with connections to the government.

01:09:42.000 So the government has direct server access to Microsoft and Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, Google and Gmail, and Google Drive also if you store your files in the cloud, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, and Apple.

01:09:57.000 All of these are now sharing data with the federal government, sharing all of your data, your logins, your passwords, your emails, your text chats, your voice chats, your photos, your posts.

01:10:10.000 Social media posts, everything that you've been doing lately that you post online, they know about it.

01:10:15.000 They're even scanning your files if you use Google Drive.

01:10:18.000 We have got to get to a point now across the board where we all stop using these companies' products and services.

01:10:25.000 Period.

01:10:27.000 It's difficult.

01:10:28.000 It's difficult.

01:10:29.000 I mean, we still use them on our website.

01:10:31.000 But we've got to find alternatives.

01:10:33.000 Now, we dropped Facebook comments from our website just about, what was it, 10 days ago, maybe only a week ago.

01:10:40.000 We dropped them.

01:10:42.000 Because we were fed up with Facebook censorship.

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01:10:45.000 We dropped them.

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01:10:50.000 And what do you know, the IQ of the commenters went straight up.

01:10:55.000 All of a sudden the comments were more intelligent!

01:10:58.000 But we've all got to find ways to do this, and as a caller mentioned in the last hour, there is a huge business opportunity here for people who can create truly secure, non-betraying services that are chats and emails.

01:11:14.000 I mean, there's start page email, I think it's called start mail, but it's, you know, you got to pay 50 bucks a year, I think is what it costs, but at least you get your privacy.

01:11:23.000 50 bucks is a small price to pay to get your privacy.

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01:12:24.000 Now let's continue with that interview with Snowden and see what he has to say about how anyone can be flagged as guilty under this system.

01:12:33.000 Go ahead.

01:12:35.000 Because even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded, and the storage capability of these systems increases every year, consistently, by orders of magnitude, to where it's getting to the point you don't have to have done anything wrong.

01:12:51.000 You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, And attack you on that basis to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer.

01:13:16.000 Yeah, there's the comment.

01:13:18.000 They can paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer.

01:13:21.000 You can go ahead and cut that video.

01:13:24.000 Think about that.

01:13:25.000 Because they spy on you and everyone, they can go back in time and they can scrutinize every decision you ever made, every conversation you ever had, things that you may have not even thought of.

01:13:35.000 I mean, in the future, if they catch you speeding down the road, they could use this system to go back And catch you on a phone call talking about how much you love to drive fast and then, you know, worsen your speeding ticket.

01:13:47.000 That's obviously a very silly, light example.

01:13:50.000 They could use this to do many, many other things to threaten and intimidate you, shut down your speech or influence.

01:13:56.000 Key people in key positions of power to change their decisions, like members of Congress.

01:14:01.000 And by the way, quick correction, I just mentioned in the last segment that we dropped Facebook as our discussion engine.

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01:14:17.000 I'm not even sure what InfoWars is using for their engine, but when I say we, I meant Natural News.

01:14:23.000 It's kind of playing, you know, dual roles here.

01:14:25.000 When I come in and host for Alex Jones, obviously I'm speaking on behalf of InfoWars, or at least as a guest host for InfoWars, but sometimes I sort of revert back to the we meaning national news.

01:14:36.000 In any case, the bottom line is we all got to get away from these services because we know they're sharing all of this information with the government.

01:14:42.000 So I know, because I've had conversations with Alex privately, I know that Alex is also concerned and looking for ways to eliminate any kind of connection with any of these services, you know, not even to use their services.

01:14:57.000 But he's also right when he says that as long as Facebook has an audience, we've got to use the enemy's tools to spread the truth.

01:15:04.000 So I'm sure that InfoWars and Natural News will both continue to post on Facebook But we encourage people to stop posting your personal details on there.

01:15:15.000 You know, we can post news on there, that's not a problem.

01:15:18.000 But if you go on there and post, you know, who's your friend and what you did last weekend and here's pictures of your family, that's the kind of information they can use against you.

01:15:25.000 So don't use these services for anything that can ever be used against you.

01:15:32.000 Here's some additional breaking news.

01:15:33.000 And by the way, we've got John Rappaport coming up at the bottom of this hour for his analysis of what's going on.

01:15:38.000 And we're going to continue with your calls.

01:15:39.000 So stay on the line there, Jack and Francis and Linda and others.

01:15:43.000 Stay on the line.

01:15:44.000 We'll get to you in just a minute here.

01:15:45.000 We've still got time.

01:15:46.000 Iceland is considering offering NSA whistleblower asylum.

01:15:51.000 So, this is a quote from Birgitta Jonsdottir.

01:15:55.000 Sorry, I butcher these Nordic names, they're difficult.

01:15:59.000 But she is the Executive Director of the International Modern Media Institute.

01:16:02.000 And in this article posted on InfoWars right now by Kurt Nimmo, she states that she essentially welcomes Snowden to seek asylum in Iceland.

01:16:14.000 And Snowden has said, the only thing I can do is sit here and hope the Hong Kong government does not deport me.

01:16:21.000 Well, there can be a lot of pressure brought to bear on the Hong Kong government, believe me, even, if necessary, death threats from, you know, the right spooks.

01:16:31.000 So Snowden is in danger.

01:16:32.000 He has now apparently, quote, disappeared off the radar in Hong Kong.

01:16:37.000 He checked out of the hotel.

01:16:37.000 No one can find him.

01:16:40.000 He's on the run, because he knows he's going to have to.

01:16:44.000 Otherwise, he's going to be probably killed or tortured.

01:16:48.000 And in any case, they're definitely going to try to assassinate his reputation and character.

01:16:53.000 So watch out for retroactive false flags where they plant evidence into his past.

01:17:00.000 See, this is the kind of thing that the NSA can do.

01:17:02.000 They can fabricate some fictional history, and they can put it into his record, into his past, and then they can bring that out and say, ah, see, he was, you know, caught...

01:17:15.000 Smoking crack or whatever back in, you know, 19 or 2005.

01:17:20.000 They can make up anything.

01:17:21.000 At this point, you can't believe anything the NSA is saying, okay?

01:17:25.000 You can't believe anything the government is telling you.

01:17:27.000 Certainly not Obama, who covered all this up.

01:17:30.000 Certainly not the NSA, who's in the business of deception.

01:17:33.000 I mean, this whole thing was a grand deception.

01:17:37.000 You can't believe anything that they're telling you from this point forward.

01:17:40.000 So let's hope that Snowden gets asylum in Iceland or some other country.

01:17:45.000 Maybe, hey, maybe Ecuador, huh?

01:17:48.000 They'll have Julian Assange and Snowden.

01:17:51.000 Ecuador could start to put together Quite a little roster of some whistleblowers right there.

01:17:56.000 They could be a force to be reckoned with.

01:17:59.000 Go Correa! 0.98

01:18:01.000 Yeah, grant this guy asylum.

01:18:02.000 But let's continue with the calls with Jack in Florida.

01:18:06.000 Jack, you're on the air.

01:18:08.000 Go ahead with your questions or comments.

01:18:13.000 You there, Jack?

01:18:15.000 Hey Mike, how you doing?

01:18:16.000 Alright, doing good.

01:18:17.000 Thanks for your call.

01:18:18.000 You do a fantastic job every time you host the show, man.

01:18:21.000 I greatly appreciate it.

01:18:22.000 Thank you.

01:18:23.000 I'm doing my best.

01:18:24.000 What's on your mind?

01:18:24.000 I wanted to talk about the NSA whistleblowing stuff, obviously.

01:18:28.000 The news.

01:18:29.000 A couple comments and a question for you.

01:18:32.000 Go for it.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, go for it.

01:18:34.000 Well, Thursday woke up, life changed forever, obviously, for everybody.

01:18:38.000 You know, the news that this has been going on, we were all kooks all this time, and, you know, we were all right.

01:18:42.000 So it was Alex, this has been going on forever.

01:18:44.000 They're watching everything that we do, they're listening to everything that we do.

01:18:48.000 And I think the implications of this have absolutely nothing to do with foreign terrorism whatsoever.

01:18:53.000 I think this is completely domestic.

01:18:54.000 Would you agree with that?

01:18:56.000 Well, my guess is it probably started out with foreign terrorists, maybe back, you know, right after it got signed into law, but then it quickly shifted to focus on domestic.

01:19:04.000 So now I think you're right.

01:19:05.000 I think it's almost entirely domestic focus.

01:19:08.000 Yeah, and look at the implications of this.

01:19:10.000 Look at the election.

01:19:11.000 I mean, did this guy really win the election at this point?

01:19:13.000 You know?

01:19:14.000 You're supposed to know.

01:19:15.000 If they know everything that's going on, they're probably blackmailing people left and right.

01:19:18.000 Oh, of course.

01:19:19.000 And they probably blackmailed the Chief Justice on the whole Obamacare ruling, which is why he won 80 to the last minute.

01:19:26.000 Wow, that's a really good point.

01:19:27.000 What if they got all his emails?

01:19:29.000 They control everything.

01:19:29.000 Yeah.

01:19:30.000 Exactly.

01:19:31.000 This is total awareness of everything going on in our country, 24-7.

01:19:37.000 I would even state that they could probably predict the future with this stuff.

01:19:42.000 Oh, well we already know Google has those algorithms to predict the future behavior of individuals based on their search behavior and their emails and things like that.

01:19:49.000 That's not even science fiction.

01:19:50.000 That's already here.

01:19:51.000 So they're tracking me.

01:19:54.000 They're poisoning the food and the water.

01:19:56.000 We gotta go to break.

01:19:57.000 But stay with us.

01:19:58.000 I want to go back to you after this break.

01:19:59.000 So stay with us.

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01:24:05.000 All right, we're going to continue with our caller here in just a second, Jack in Florida.

01:24:17.000 Thanks for staying on the line.

01:24:18.000 But I was just joking with the guys, the producers here between segments.

01:24:23.000 So you know, the problem with the NSA is that The people there are really smart.

01:24:29.000 I mean, this guy, Snowden, he's obviously a very high IQ individual.

01:24:32.000 They grabbed him right out of high school.

01:24:34.000 He never even finished high school.

01:24:35.000 He went straight from, I don't know, you know, being a sophomore in high school to working for the CIA, probably doing some kind of crazy, you know, computer decryption algorithms or something.

01:24:46.000 The problem is that the people there are just too smart.

01:24:48.000 What we need is to put the TSA in charge of the NSA.

01:24:54.000 So that they're not very capable.

01:24:55.000 You know, you'd go into the NSA analyst room and all the agents would be putting on latex gloves and saying, we don't want to catch something from people's email.

01:25:05.000 Instead of surveilling your phone calls, you'd find they're all just surfing child porn sites because they are pedophiles after all. 0.52

01:25:13.000 So I think that's our answer, Obama.

01:25:16.000 You should just take all the TSA agents and just let them run the NSA.

01:25:20.000 And then we'd all be safe.

01:25:21.000 Because they're not going to get anything done that's useful.

01:25:25.000 And by the way, Obama, if you were really smart, you know what you would do?

01:25:29.000 You would give this guy, Snowden, give him the highest citizen's award in the history of America.

01:25:36.000 That would separate you from the scandal.

01:25:38.000 And it would ensure the safety of this guy who is, after all, protecting Americans from bad government.

01:25:46.000 So Obama does have a strategy to protect himself from this scandal and maybe avoid impeachment.

01:25:52.000 But let's go back to our caller, Jack, in Florida.

01:25:53.000 You had some good points there.

01:25:55.000 What are your thoughts continuing with this?

01:25:57.000 Where do you think this is all going?

01:25:58.000 I also think that, just to build on what I was talking about before with Justice Roberts, they probably did this to betray us, too.

01:26:05.000 I think it came out that all this was leaked through emails.

01:26:08.000 And the whole Benghazi thing.

01:26:09.000 They're using this as complete control to just blackmail anybody who opposes what they want.

01:26:13.000 Because they've got all your information and everything about you now.

01:26:16.000 You know, you're exactly right.

01:26:17.000 I think we have to go back now and re-examine these key decisions and these key setups and scandals with this now in light.

01:26:26.000 Because you're right.

01:26:27.000 And like I was saying, they're poisoning the water, they're poisoning the food, they're spraying the skies, and these people expect me to disarm?

01:26:34.000 I mean, this is laughable, are you kidding me?

01:26:38.000 You're obviously coming after the American public, let's face it.

01:26:41.000 A hundred plus million gun owning Americans are the only thing standing in the way of these people taking over the world. 0.89

01:26:48.000 They've already disarmed the whole Western world. 0.90

01:26:51.000 Everybody's already disarmed.

01:26:53.000 This is why you see the gun grab going on right now.

01:26:56.000 I think they knew that this was going to come out.

01:27:00.000 I think you're being unreasonable.

01:27:03.000 We can trust them with a national gun registration list.

01:27:06.000 I know we can't trust the IRS, we can't trust the DOJ, we can't trust the FDA, we can't trust the ATF, the DEA, the NSA.

01:27:14.000 We can't trust them.

01:27:15.000 They're going to abuse the list.

01:27:16.000 But I think a nationwide gun registration list, oh yeah, they would keep their promise on that one.

01:27:23.000 Yeah.

01:27:24.000 How could you think otherwise?

01:27:25.000 It's scary to think that they're listening and recording to this phone call we're having right now, Mike.

01:27:30.000 Oh, you can bet they're listening to this broadcast!

01:27:33.000 I'll put all the proper keywords, right?

01:27:33.000 Oh, absolutely!

01:27:36.000 And I'm going to start doing what Jim Morris said.

01:27:38.000 Every time I make a phone call or send an email from now on, it's just going to be nothing but keywords.

01:27:43.000 No, you just make it into a song like, bomb-a-da-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb And I think they're going to use the data center they're building out in Utah to link this whole system up to all of the cameras that they're putting at every intersection, too.

01:28:09.000 Pretty soon they're going to have a matrix.

01:28:10.000 They're going to plug that data center into your spinal column. 0.99

01:28:15.000 It'll be just like out of the Matrix.

01:28:17.000 Folks, we are living in it right now.

01:28:19.000 It is already here.

01:28:21.000 It is here.

01:28:21.000 Yeah.

01:28:22.000 Very good.

01:28:23.000 I really love your call.

01:28:24.000 Great points, Jack.

01:28:25.000 Thank you for your call.

01:28:26.000 Awesome.

01:28:28.000 Great to have you on.

01:28:28.000 You bet.

01:28:30.000 Great calls all day.

01:28:31.000 You guys are awesome.

01:28:32.000 You get it.

01:28:32.000 In fact, let's take another call right now.

01:28:34.000 Simeon in England, or Simon, sorry, in England.

01:28:38.000 Sorry I butchered your name there, sir, but you're on the air.

01:28:39.000 Go ahead.

01:28:40.000 Hi there.

01:28:41.000 It's Simeon from England.

01:28:43.000 Simeon.

01:28:44.000 First time caller.

01:28:45.000 Great.

01:28:46.000 Go ahead.

01:28:47.000 Yeah, I've been researching this sort of stuff since I was 17.

01:28:52.000 I'm now 26, so I was awake quite early.

01:28:56.000 I just want to make some points and give some advice.

01:29:00.000 Go ahead, we've got about one minute before break, go ahead.

01:29:02.000 Okay, but people haven't looked at this in an overall way, because over here, when internet-ready computers were first given to us, all the newspapers all said, to be frank, they all said, oh my god, it's got pornography on it, it's terrible, blah, blah, blah.

01:29:25.000 Immediately, everyone started buying computers.

01:29:27.000 And I think the whole idea of people buying a personal computer and then advertising it as having porn on it and things like that was an advert to get people to use this.

01:29:45.000 Well, some interesting points there about invading the culture.

01:29:48.000 We got to go to break, Simon.

01:29:49.000 I apologize, but thank you for your points.

01:29:52.000 John Rappaport comes up after this break.

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01:33:15.000 Neil Cavuto went ballistic yesterday when interviewing people about the NSA spy scandal And ballistic in a good way, by the way.

01:33:27.000 I admire what he said.

01:33:30.000 He lost it.

01:33:31.000 And it was refreshing to see.

01:33:33.000 He looked a little bit like Alex Jones on Piers Morgan.

01:33:36.000 Let's actually go to that clip and listen to Neil Cavuto lay into these guests for just carrying their party line nonsense instead of actually addressing the issue that we're all being spied on.

01:33:47.000 Here's Neil.

01:33:48.000 ...reporting and not protecting the First Amendment in this country, people are seriously in doubt about whether the White House is looking out for the country's best interests.

01:33:57.000 Well, it's the creepiness factor.

01:33:58.000 And I understand that.

01:33:59.000 It's the creepiness factor.

01:34:00.000 Julian, I mean, I guess what I'm asking you is, what part of Custer don't you understand here, where you're surrounded and you see one incident after another that comes up?

01:34:09.000 If you want to conflate and combine all these issues and then make these general statements, you can do that.

01:34:13.000 crises invaded or potentially invaded institutions of all sorts doing pretty much the same thing.

01:34:21.000 There is a pattern.

01:34:22.000 If you want to conflate and combine all these issues and then make these general statements, you can do that.

01:34:27.000 I just don't think it's a very thoughtful way of approaching it.

01:34:29.000 Well, no, why don't you think about what I just said, Julian?

01:34:32.000 I'm asking you to think and connect all the... Now, Julian, don't play the politics game.

01:34:36.000 I don't connect the dots.

01:34:37.000 I don't connect the dots, Neil.

01:34:38.000 Julian, I'm telling you, drop the liberal thing and focus on the reality thing.

01:34:42.000 You have one entity after another going after the American people.

01:34:46.000 You have one System of government, one agency, one department after another, essentially doing the same thing.

01:34:53.000 You can call that conflating.

01:34:55.000 I am telling you there's a pattern, and you're just working your shoulders, but I guarantee you, Julian, if it were George Bush doing it, you would rightly be all over it.

01:35:07.000 You want me to respond?

01:35:08.000 So, look, you can't conflate all of these issues.

01:35:11.000 You have to speak about them separately because they're very different.

01:35:14.000 In the case of the IRS, I agree the targeting was wrong, but there was never any connection to the White House.

01:35:19.000 Nobody's proven that.

01:35:20.000 In the case of the AP case, no one was criminalizing investigative reporting.

01:35:26.000 Nobody in the Justice Department ever spoke about prosecuting Rosen.

01:35:29.000 That was simply a method.

01:35:32.000 That's enough guys.

01:35:34.000 He's awesome.

01:35:34.000 I'm not going to get any longer at this point.

01:35:37.000 Ben Stein, Julian.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, because I want to talk facts and you want to make these general broadsides.

01:35:41.000 I'm sorry, Julian.

01:35:42.000 You're saying nothing and it's offensive.

01:35:44.000 Okay, well then, why don't we speak about him specifically?

01:35:47.000 Let's speak of, let's debate his issues specifically.

01:35:49.000 You're the one making the general allegations.

01:35:51.000 Cavuto, Cavuto, Cavuto, yeah, Cavuto. 1.00

01:35:56.000 You play the same old damn game. 0.99

01:35:58.000 He's awesome. 1.00

01:35:59.000 It's nice to see him actually get a little angry about that.

01:36:04.000 Where do these liberal reporters get off on this idea, oh you can't conflate these issues?

01:36:10.000 You know what they're saying is, you can't talk about more than one thing.

01:36:15.000 I mean, oh wait a minute, there's a pattern here.

01:36:17.000 There's the IRS, there's the DOJ, there's the NSA.

01:36:21.000 There's all the lies that Obama told when he was running for office that turned out he's continuing the things he said he would stop, like the secret military prisons.

01:36:30.000 And you can't, quote, conflate these issues.

01:36:32.000 You can't talk about more things, more than one thing at a time.

01:36:36.000 You can't connect the dots.

01:36:37.000 Are you kidding me?

01:36:38.000 It's insane!

01:36:40.000 Good job Cavuto in this case, going after these guys.

01:36:43.000 I actually appreciate your outrage on the air, Cavuto.

01:36:46.000 Now to give us some more context on this, we're joined now by John Rappaport, a great analyst and researcher and writer.

01:36:53.000 His website is nomorefakenews.com, the name says it all.

01:36:58.000 John Rappaport joins us now by Skype for additional analysis.

01:37:01.000 John, what did you think of Neil Cavuto going ballistic in a good way?

01:37:08.000 Hey Mike, well I think we need more of that.

01:37:10.000 I think we need more ballisticism from these guys who are finally getting fed up.

01:37:17.000 I don't care whether they're on the left or the right or the middle or up or down.

01:37:21.000 You know, it just gets to a point where even they have a tough time pretending that it's all very neutral and we're having a ridiculous conversation about these things.

01:37:33.000 No, because it's all completely insane.

01:37:35.000 I mean, the government wants to get into your pants, into your brain, into everything you've got, into your bank, and they'll do whatever it takes, and they are doing whatever it takes.

01:37:47.000 And so this latest revelation about the NSA is just one more monster on top of all the other monsters, and it also indicts all the corporations, the tech companies, who have been complying and agreeing and lying and obfuscating about the fact that You know, they're all in it together. 0.85

01:38:08.000 Well, yeah, that's why Cavuto said, quote, "Drop the liberal thing and just answer the freaking question. 0.86

01:38:14.000 Act like a human being. 0.97

01:38:15.000 We're all being spied on." You know, forget about who's in the White House for a minute and just think like a human being.

01:38:22.000 But these liberals refuse to do that.

01:38:24.000 They want their guy in the White House to be on the winning team.

01:38:28.000 And as Cavuto said, if Bush was in the White House and this was going on, the left would be screaming bloody murder over all the spy scandals.

01:38:35.000 But now that Obama is in, it's okay.

01:38:37.000 Bill Maher says, oh, it's fine because I trust Obama. 1.00

01:38:41.000 Are you that stupid? 1.00

01:38:41.000 Really? 1.00

01:38:42.000 Come on.

01:38:44.000 Well, he gave him a million bucks, so I guess he has to defend him.

01:38:47.000 I don't know.

01:38:48.000 But yeah, you know, if Bush were in the White House now, the Republicans would be defending him.

01:38:55.000 They would be saying, well, There's no thing that we must refrain from doing to protect the security of the United States, and if we have to put everybody under hypnotic drugs 24 hours a day all over the world to do it, let's do it, because we'll all be safe then and everybody will be at peace.

01:39:16.000 These people just keep on switching sides and going back and forth because they're paid to do that.

01:39:22.000 I mean, that's why they send their kids to college. 0.55

01:39:25.000 That's how they can afford their house payments. 0.93

01:39:27.000 And let's remember how this all began.

01:39:30.000 Let's go back to the so-called terror attacks of 9-11.

01:39:34.000 And then the outrage in the Bush era, pushing of the Patriot Act, and how all the Republicans said, yeah, let's give up our rights!

01:39:43.000 And now those same Republicans are screaming, well, Obama's taking our rights!

01:39:47.000 You gave them to him!

01:39:48.000 Come on, people! 0.72

01:39:49.000 I mean, come on!

01:39:50.000 Look in the mirror!

01:39:52.000 Where did that all start?

01:39:53.000 Yeah, right.

01:39:54.000 Give me a break! 1.00

01:39:55.000 And let's go to war in Iraq. 0.77

01:39:57.000 Yes, we have to go to war in Iraq.

01:39:59.000 Why are we going to war in Iraq?

01:40:00.000 Again, I can't remember.

01:40:01.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:03.000 WMDs.

01:40:04.000 Where are they?

01:40:05.000 I don't know.

01:40:06.000 But let's go to war anyway. 0.98

01:40:07.000 And let's let a lot of people get killed. 1.00

01:40:10.000 And let's kill a lot of people. 1.00

01:40:12.000 It's a great thing. 1.00

01:40:13.000 And we have to support the troops and this and that and the other thing.

01:40:17.000 You know, When people can't get far enough back to see what's actually going on, they literally go insane.

01:40:26.000 Because they're right in the middle of all this crossfire and they just begin to react negatively to everything that their training tells them they have to react to.

01:40:37.000 It's just pure mind control.

01:40:39.000 You've got to see the big picture here, you know?

01:40:42.000 A slave state. 0.81

01:40:43.000 That's what we're talking about.

01:40:45.000 Yeah, total slave state.

01:40:46.000 And we had a caller previously who brought up some very good points saying, hey, maybe that key decision about Obamacare by a Supreme Court justice who changed his mind last minute, maybe they got his private emails and threatened him with something.

01:40:59.000 You know, maybe Petraeus was threatened, or they got his emails and then were able to expose his affair and kick him out of power.

01:41:07.000 I mean, they've probably been using this all along to get certain people out of the way and get other people to change their decisions.

01:41:15.000 Oh yeah, no question about it.

01:41:17.000 And another thing that the public is very confused about, you know, you don't have to say that Petraeus is a saint.

01:41:26.000 In order to say, at the same time, that he was railroaded and discredited because he was saying things that the administration didn't want him to say.

01:41:38.000 Right.

01:41:38.000 It's not black or white, folks.

01:41:41.000 Wake up!

01:41:42.000 You know, because people get all in a tizzy about that.

01:41:45.000 Well, so you're defending Petraeus and you're saying that he's the most... No!

01:41:50.000 Just saying that this is how they take people down.

01:41:53.000 And by the way, since you mentioned Obamacare, Mike, All of this spying and surveilling and record keeping and so forth, let us not forget.

01:42:06.000 That your medical records are going to be added into this matrix.

01:42:11.000 Every single thing that happens in the doctor's office is all going to be part of your profile that is assembled by the NSA and the FBI and the CIA and every other agency.

01:42:23.000 DHS is working on this to complete a whole picture of you.

01:42:29.000 And those medical records will be right in there.

01:42:31.000 The same government that's spying on your email, grabbing your logins and passwords, and listening to your phone calls, is now going to know about your erectile dysfunction problem.

01:42:41.000 How wonderful is that?

01:42:42.000 And if they see fit to blackmail you or extort you with that, they will.

01:42:49.000 Absolutely.

01:42:50.000 By the way, sir, you don't know me, but how's the Viagra working out?

01:42:55.000 Yeah, right.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, secret phone call.

01:42:56.000 Yeah, sit down.

01:42:58.000 Let's have a little conversation because you've been doing some things here as a congressman that we think you ought to, you know, have second thoughts about.

01:43:07.000 Yeah, like voting for an extension of Obamacare.

01:43:09.000 You know, come January 1, believe me, these state exchanges are going to just implode with technical problems.

01:43:17.000 But let's go to some phone calls, John.

01:43:19.000 Let's bring in some callers because we've had such great calls today.

01:43:22.000 We've got a caller on the line, Linda from Boston.

01:43:24.000 The note I have here is that it's bigger than the NSA.

01:43:27.000 So Linda from Boston, you're on the air with John Rappaport.

01:43:30.000 Go ahead, Linda.

01:43:33.000 Are you there?

01:43:35.000 Glenda! 0.99

01:43:38.000 I think the NSA was listening to her phone call and she called in and they already took care of her.

01:43:43.000 That's too bad.

01:43:43.000 Let's go to John in Wisconsin fighting the New World Order.

01:43:47.000 John, you're on the air.

01:43:48.000 Hello!

01:43:50.000 Hey there, you're on the air.

01:43:52.000 Yes.

01:43:52.000 You're on the air.

01:43:53.000 Well, I first wanted to thank Alex and the show for years ago, about 10 years ago he used to end the show with the exhortation, go out and fight the New World Order.

01:44:03.000 I have enjoyed doing that.

01:44:06.000 A couple things with Perry's emails and now trying to get some of that video footage from the Boston Marathon.

01:44:13.000 It's a little thing I could do.

01:44:14.000 And that's kind of what I think our next step is as citizens is, hey, this machinery has gotten really large.

01:44:21.000 Somewhere this gear work of tyranny is spinning near you, and I firmly believe that somewhere you have the spanner in your hand to stick it in.

01:44:31.000 And we just all have to do our little part in whichever way we can to just get in the way.

01:44:36.000 Well, good point, John.

01:44:38.000 Great question.

01:44:39.000 John Rappaport, please answer that.

01:44:41.000 How do we take action against this incredible spy grid that seems almost omniscient?

01:44:47.000 It knows all our secrets.

01:44:48.000 How do you even, how do you stop a system like that?

01:44:52.000 Well, I suggested, I'm working on an article now.

01:44:56.000 I think people have to use their imaginations.

01:44:58.000 For example, how about videotaping yourself as you go around, you know, your daily life and then send the video file to the NSA?

01:45:08.000 Help them! 0.51

01:45:09.000 Help them! 0.51

01:45:10.000 So what would happen if 50,000 people started taking themselves and saying, you know, we are loyal patriotic Americans and we believe that we should be spied on.

01:45:20.000 In fact, we don't think you're doing a good enough job.

01:45:23.000 So we want to fill up your email boxes with public information, with videos of us living our lives every day.

01:45:30.000 And you can look at all of it, you see.

01:45:34.000 And all of a sudden this gets to be a story.

01:45:36.000 Oh, look what's happening here.

01:45:38.000 This gets to be a gigantic joke on the NSA.

01:45:40.000 But how do you even send a video to the NSA?

01:45:43.000 It seems like the only way you can get it into their hands is by sending it through a service where you don't want them to spy on you.

01:45:49.000 It's not like they have an inbox where you can voluntarily submit.

01:45:54.000 They only get things illegally.

01:45:56.000 Well, they do have public outreach.

01:45:59.000 I mean, every organization does.

01:46:01.000 You know, public information officer, press office, liaisons to the public, public education that they do, all this sort of insanity.

01:46:13.000 And if you look hard enough, I've done this as a reporter.

01:46:17.000 Oh, look, here's an email address.

01:46:18.000 I think I'll send somebody an email here.

01:46:20.000 And lo and behold, it gets through.

01:46:22.000 Just like, well, you can't walk into the White House and talk to Obama, but you can get to the White House through various email addresses and so forth.

01:46:32.000 Or if you fail at that, you post it up on YouTube.

01:46:35.000 An open confession to the NSA.

01:46:37.000 Here's what I've really been doing.

01:46:39.000 Here's my boring life.

01:46:42.000 I was picking carrots this morning.

01:46:45.000 Yeah, talk about a spanner. 1.00

01:46:47.000 I mean, you have to think imaginatively here.

01:46:51.000 You have to turn the tables on them in some way.

01:46:54.000 There's all kinds of things that people can figure out if they give a little thought and imagination to it.

01:46:59.000 I can just see the NSA.

01:47:02.000 Some analysts assigned to my life, they'd be bored out of their minds.

01:47:05.000 Oh, he's feeding the chickens again.

01:47:07.000 Oh, my God.

01:47:09.000 He's milking the goats.

01:47:10.000 Uh-oh.

01:47:11.000 I wonder if that's raw milk.

01:47:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:47:14.000 He might be a terrorist! 0.87

01:47:16.000 He's going after the farm animals!

01:47:18.000 Driving a tractor!

01:47:21.000 Yeah, my life... I'm flagged as a terrorist on multiple fronts, you know, just for growing food, you know?

01:47:29.000 Too late for you.

01:47:30.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:47:31.000 Well, check this out.

01:47:33.000 Representative Steve Stockman, a congressman from Texas, he's going to be joining us, by the way, in the next hour.

01:47:38.000 He's got some hilarious tweets that he put out over the weekend on the spy scandal, and one of his tweets was as follows, and I want your comments on this, John, and then we'll probably take some more calls.

01:47:49.000 Quote, at this point, the only way to prevent people from hearing your conversations is to have them on MSNBC.

01:47:58.000 That's a good one, yeah.

01:47:59.000 I think that's very good, sure.

01:48:01.000 There's only, I don't know, they only have a few hundred thousand people watching out of 300 and something million on MSNBC.

01:48:08.000 Yeah, that's a good one, I like that.

01:48:11.000 Yeah, well, let's take another call then, what do you say?

01:48:13.000 Okay, sure.

01:48:14.000 Alright, let's go to Francis in North Carolina.

01:48:17.000 Francis, you're on the air with John Rappaport and Mike Adams here.

01:48:20.000 Go ahead.

01:48:20.000 Good day to you both, for that matter.

01:48:25.000 As much as there is a surveillance grid and cameras, sensors this way, that way, of everyone's backside and so forth at nauseam, there's one that I have not heard anybody address that I have taken note of for months.

01:48:41.000 This occurs at an intersection either as you're stopping at a red light or even after you pass the intersection, they are placed in the pavement after an intersection.

01:48:53.000 If anyone happens to pay attention and look at these lines that are cut into the pavement, on the West Coast, they look like circles.

01:49:02.000 On the East Coast, they look like squares or rectangles or whatever that are actually cut into the pavement.

01:49:08.000 And the only thing I can surmise is that they are wires or magnetic strips of some sort that actually can scan your vehicle when you pass over it.

01:49:18.000 Hmm, that's an interesting idea.

01:49:20.000 I wouldn't put it past the NSA.

01:49:22.000 What do you think, John?

01:49:23.000 Is something like that going on?

01:49:24.000 I haven't heard of that particular thing.

01:49:26.000 Assuming that it's not just to regulate traffic lights and so forth.

01:49:30.000 Yeah, we'll look into that one.

01:49:33.000 What if every car is built with an RFID system already built into it?

01:49:37.000 You know, they're trying to put black boxes into the cars, but what if the caller's right?

01:49:41.000 Maybe they have an RFID transponder, and every time you drive over one of these intersections, you know, the location of your car gets uploaded to the NSA, which they cross-reference with your phone calls and everything else.

01:49:53.000 I mean, it's just another layer of tracking.

01:49:55.000 It could be true.

01:49:57.000 It could definitely be true.

01:49:58.000 The whole point of this is that they want to and they're getting closer and closer to be able to track everybody all the time in real time, wherever they are, whatever they do, whatever they say, wherever they go.

01:50:13.000 That's, you know, the mission.

01:50:15.000 That's their mission statement.

01:50:17.000 Has nothing to do with stopping terrorism.

01:50:19.000 Has to do with control.

01:50:20.000 That's what they're after.

01:50:21.000 That's what they've always been after.

01:50:23.000 And these monsters that are committing crimes every day that run these super spy networks, you know, they are the people who are the technicians for You know, we call it what you will, global management, the police state, and so on.

01:50:40.000 And all of the spinoffs that we've been hearing, you know, for example... John, we're going to go to break here, but we'll continue with you on the other side of that break, and thank you for that caller.

01:50:48.000 That's very interesting.

01:50:49.000 Hey, if they're not tracking your cars with RFIDs, they're certainly taking pictures of you and using facial recognition algorithms.

01:50:56.000 To see who's driving your car and where else you might be going on that same day.

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01:54:05.000 I love how when Bush was in office, all these Democrats and liberals were screaming about all these Democrats and liberals were screaming about Bush's terrible police state.

01:54:27.000 Oh my God, this guy is spying on us.

01:54:29.000 He's got the Patriot Act.

01:54:31.000 He's threatening our civil rights.

01:54:33.000 Call the ACLU!

01:54:34.000 In fact, let's nominate a man for president who's a constitutional scholar named Obama.

01:54:40.000 And then when Obama gets into office, all these same people Who are so intellectually just dishonest, betraying every principle, as long as their guy is in office.

01:54:52.000 All these same liberals and Democrats say, what?

01:54:55.000 Spying?

01:54:56.000 We love to be spied on!

01:54:57.000 Obama's in office, we love to be spied on now!

01:54:57.000 We love it!

01:55:00.000 Surveillance?

01:55:01.000 Go surveillance!

01:55:02.000 More, more, more!

01:55:03.000 Who cares about the Constitution?

01:55:05.000 Who cares about the Bill of Rights?

01:55:06.000 Our guys in the White House, we're winning, winning, winning!

01:55:08.000 That's what they do! 0.99

01:55:09.000 I mean, how pathetic is that John Rappaport? 0.99

01:55:15.000 Yeah, and why do people vote? 0.98

01:55:18.000 You know, if they only have a choice between two jackasses, when either go to a third party, if there's somebody really who stands for freedom, or just opt out completely. 0.98

01:55:34.000 Because, you know, face it, somebody's going to the polls to put these criminal morons in office every couple of years, four years, six years, depending on which position they hold. 0.99

01:55:46.000 And they perform the same way year after year, decade after decade. 0.99

01:55:52.000 And yet people still allow these people to, you know, run Washington, D.C. to the degree that they do.

01:56:00.000 It's just completely insane.

01:56:01.000 It's incredible. 1.00

01:56:03.000 Yeah, I mean, how stupid, how completely stupid. 1.00

01:56:07.000 So one possible example of hope, real hope for real change, not the fake hope and change that we've been offered is. - Yeah. 1.00

01:56:17.000 A real example is Rand Paul, and we're going to cut to a video of him describing what he wants to do to challenge this NSA spy grid all the way up to the Supreme Court.

01:56:27.000 Let's roll a couple of minutes of that.

01:56:28.000 Go ahead, guys.

01:56:30.000 Well, you know, they're looking at a billion phone calls a day, is what I read in the press, and that doesn't sound to me like a modest invasion of privacy.

01:56:39.000 It sounds like an extraordinary invasion of privacy.

01:56:42.000 The Fourth Amendment says that you have to look at, and you can ask for a warrant for a specific to a person place in the items.

01:56:50.000 This is a general warrant.

01:56:52.000 This is what we objected to and what our founding fathers partly fought the revolution over is they did not want generalized warrants where you could go from house to house with soldiers looking for things or now from computer to computer to phone to phone without specifying who you're targeting.

01:57:08.000 Well, let's look at the effects of the internet surveillance program as opposed to the phone surveillance program in 2009.

01:57:15.000 Well, that's enough.

01:57:16.000 Rand Paul basically said it right there.

01:57:19.000 John Rappaport, your comments on Rand Paul, if you were able to hear that clearly.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, I was.

01:57:24.000 Sure, I mean, if we've got people like him who are willing to press this issue and not just, you know, make a little press conference out of it.

01:57:34.000 And to actually force this up to higher levels, why not?

01:57:40.000 But I'm afraid, I'm not confident at all that the Supreme Court would do anything about it.

01:57:45.000 Well, and plus, the Supreme Court justices may all be compromised by the NSA.

01:57:49.000 Yeah, of course.

01:57:50.000 So then you have to ask who's really running things.

01:57:53.000 Sure, I don't have a lot of faith in the Supreme Court coming out and deciding, yes, this is completely wrong and it has to be dismantled.

01:58:03.000 They're not going to do that.

01:58:04.000 They're not going to go over to the NSA and say, OK, guys, you've got here enough storage for Six hundred quadrillion pieces of information.

01:58:16.000 So we're going to limit you down to five million.

01:58:19.000 Those are the only legal ones that you can have.

01:58:21.000 They're not going to do that.

01:58:23.000 They're going to make some kind of concession.

01:58:26.000 Yes.

01:58:28.000 You can't cut your fingernails in the lobby of the NSA building anymore, okay?

01:58:33.000 That's where we're going with this.

01:58:35.000 No, it's clear the NSA is going to keep lying to Congress, lying to the public.

01:58:38.000 And lying to the Supreme Court.

01:58:40.000 And lying to the Supreme Court, absolutely.

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02:01:37.000 Now, John Rappaport has also been a guest host here before.

02:01:40.000 Lots of us are polling for The Truth.

02:01:43.000 We are helping to promote alternative media because this is the only media where you're going to get the truth.

02:01:49.000 I mean, think about the march against Monsanto all across the country.

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02:01:56.000 Can you believe that?

02:01:58.000 So, we're telling you the truth as best we see it.

02:02:01.000 So John Rappaport continues with us here for the next few minutes.

02:02:05.000 John, what would you like people to remember most from your interview today?

02:02:09.000 What are the take-home points from this NSA spy grid exploding in our faces?

02:02:16.000 People who thought, you know, that it was only telephones.

02:02:21.000 Yes, they're spying on phone calls.

02:02:23.000 We knew all about that.

02:02:24.000 And maybe they're able to track things on the internet and so forth.

02:02:29.000 But now we're talking about a colossus made up of these huge tech companies.

02:02:37.000 Google and AOL and, you know, all the way down the line, Microsoft, Apple, et cetera, all the way.

02:02:43.000 And NSA working together as one monster deciding What to do about what they know about you, and they're collecting everything in their capability of collecting it.

02:02:57.000 And that's not only illegal, it's not only criminal, it's not only like a gigantic crime family, which it is, but it's all about freedom.

02:03:08.000 And that's the thing to never give up on, to understand what your freedom means, what it is, and to resist any and all efforts to take it away from you.

02:03:19.000 From a tactical standpoint, it's very tricky to not allow the NSA to spy on you because they're into everything now.

02:03:26.000 All these tech giants have backed doors directly into the government.

02:03:30.000 They're copying and data mining everything.

02:03:33.000 Your text, your voicemails, your Skype messages, your Facebook posts.

02:03:37.000 How do you do that and still stay connected to our online world?

02:03:42.000 I mean, what do you do?

02:03:43.000 Go out and buy a Linux system and run, you know, run Linux everything?

02:03:47.000 A lot of people don't have the technical knowledge to do that.

02:03:50.000 I certainly don't.

02:03:52.000 All I can say, Mike, is that for a number of years now, there have been who knows how many thousands or even millions of people on the Internet who decided they don't care.

02:04:04.000 I just don't care.

02:04:05.000 Yeah, okay, they're spying on me.

02:04:08.000 Sure, all right.

02:04:09.000 So they know what I'm writing and they know what I'm reading.

02:04:12.000 Does that mean that I'm going to stop doing what I'm doing?

02:04:15.000 No, it means that I'm going to do more of what I've already been doing.

02:04:20.000 That's the point.

02:04:22.000 You do more of the good things.

02:04:25.000 And you, and you just barrel straight ahead.

02:04:28.000 Yes, there are, I'm sure there are things you can do to, you know, avoid the maximum possible amount of spying on you.

02:04:36.000 But, you know, you're out there, so just be out there, and do it, and don't worry about, uh, oh I have to pull back.

02:04:43.000 That's what they want you to do.

02:04:45.000 They want you to go silent.

02:04:47.000 Don't go silent.

02:04:48.000 Yeah, they want to censor and intimidate, that's for sure.

02:04:50.000 Well, that was John Rappaport, everybody, from nomorefakenews.com.

02:04:54.000 Thank you for joining us on the show today, John.

02:04:57.000 Thanks so much, Michael.

02:04:58.000 Always good to have you on.

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02:08:38.000 All right, welcome back to the Alex Jones Show, the third hour here.

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02:08:46.000 And you know, there's a huge backlash now forming against the NSA spy grid disclosures.

02:08:52.000 Most people aren't happy to know that their private emails and phone calls are all being surveilled.

02:08:57.000 I mean, their passwords, their files, their photos, you name it.

02:09:01.000 It's Big Brother galore.

02:09:03.000 It's Orwellian To the extreme.

02:09:08.000 Orwell couldn't even have imagined this.

02:09:09.000 It's unbelievable.

02:09:11.000 Now, some of the comments that have been passed around the internet over the weekend about this are quite funny, even though this is a tragedy against the Fourth Amendment and the Bill of Rights.

02:09:22.000 There's a lot of comedy out there, and in fact some of the best comedy came from Texas Representative Steve Stockman, who was tweeting over the weekend some really fantastic tweets.

02:09:32.000 I'll share a couple of them with you, and then he joins us on the show.

02:09:35.000 He said, quote, someone should tell Obama 1984 wasn't intended to be an instruction manual.

02:09:42.000 And he said, this is my favorite one, at this point the only way to prevent people from hearing your conversations is to have them on MSNBC.

02:09:51.000 Yeah, I'm sure they will appreciate that one, but it's funny.

02:09:54.000 So joining us now from Texas District No.

02:09:57.000 36, I believe, is Representative Steve Stockman.

02:10:00.000 Mr. Stockman, welcome to the show.

02:10:02.000 Thanks.

02:10:03.000 One of the things we try to do is always have fun, and making fun of liberals, you can't have any more fun than that.

02:10:10.000 I know, you have to laugh at this because it's so insane.

02:10:13.000 What were your initial thoughts when you became aware of these astonishing disclosures?

02:10:19.000 Well, I mean, it follows with Obama's intent to focus on the citizens as the criminal, and the terrorists are not to be investigated.

02:10:28.000 You had the Russians send us a whole profile of what was potential terrorists, and instead And also, he subscribed to Terrorist Magazine, and he subscribed and posted terrorist websites, but that didn't rise to the level of interest that the Tea Party and average citizens have become the target.

02:10:53.000 It's alarming.

02:10:55.000 We do live in a world where good is bad and bad is good, and we have targeted American citizens over that of terrorists.

02:11:05.000 It's extraordinary how this apparatus has now been turned against the people, and I think you would agree with me on this, that this is being done outside of the permission of Congress.

02:11:17.000 I mean, Congress has been lied to by the NSA about this.

02:11:21.000 Would you agree with that characterization, and what are your thoughts?

02:11:24.000 Well, there was an actual question, which they showed in a clip of it, where they're asking the head of NSA if there was a collection, I think it was a congressman, it may have been Weidman, Who asked a direct question, are you collecting massive amounts of data on each citizen?

02:11:42.000 And the retort back from him was no, we're not.

02:11:45.000 So, yeah, if they claim now that that was a mis... I think Dianne Feinstein said that it was just a misunderstanding of the question, which can be...

02:11:58.000 Well, I guess we could always say it's a misunderstanding.

02:12:00.000 But what about the idea that this NSA system, it's almost omniscient.

02:12:04.000 I mean, they can keep tabs on anybody, including federal judges, including people like you, including your colleagues in the House, including Senators.

02:12:15.000 No one is safe from this.

02:12:16.000 Do you see the potential for massive abuse on this?

02:12:21.000 There is massive abuse already.

02:12:23.000 I mean, it's alarming.

02:12:26.000 If you think about it, these are the same guys now that want to register your guns, and they can't keep this kind of data private, yet they're claiming they can keep it private.

02:12:37.000 If you register your guns, they're not going to let the data out.

02:12:40.000 But clearly, we have a situation in which they don't have control.

02:12:45.000 over the information.

02:12:47.000 It's just, it is a, it is a world and it's alarming.

02:12:51.000 And what I don't understand is why the American people aren't getting upset.

02:12:54.000 It seems like no matter what Obama does, he says he has to read about what he's doing in the paper. - - He's detached from it.

02:13:01.000 - Yeah, Obama's gonna be really angry when he finds out what the president did.

02:13:05.000 - Yeah, exactly.

02:13:07.000 - Man, that's terrible.

02:13:08.000 But, yeah, are you starting to get calls or feedback from your constituents?

02:13:13.000 What's the word?

02:13:14.000 I mean, I know it's only Monday and this is going to take a while to sink in, but what's the word from your staff so far on any kind of anger, outburst about this?

02:13:24.000 Well, we're getting calls.

02:13:26.000 We're just not, I don't understand from my office, and by the way, we appreciate those that call us and support us.

02:13:34.000 And because, as you know, we're up against the big media and others that are in the mainstream.

02:13:41.000 So when they call, we appreciate it.

02:13:43.000 But what I don't understand is people outside of your listeners, you interview them or talk to them, it's puzzling to me at what degree they're willing to give up their individual freedoms for the perception of security.

02:13:56.000 And we both know that you give up your individual liberties, you soon have neither.

02:14:01.000 Exactly, right.

02:14:03.000 Now, your tweets are also really part of a pattern of liberty that comes out of Texas.

02:14:10.000 It seems like more than any other state.

02:14:12.000 I mean, Texas is where Ron Paul came from, and then, you know, Rand Paul in Kentucky now, but of course from Texas.

02:14:20.000 And you're here in Texas.

02:14:21.000 There are many other liberty lovers in Texas.

02:14:24.000 Is Texas really sort of the headquarters of liberty for America now?

02:14:29.000 Well, it's becoming a last fashion, apparently.

02:14:32.000 New Hampshire used to be that way, but it seems like everybody from Massachusetts moved there, and they loved the freedom in New Hampshire, so they immediately voted in people that hated freedom, so it's kind of odd.

02:14:42.000 But, you know, in my district alone, we've had, since my election in November, we've had 30,000 new people come in here because of the ability to get jobs and to operate without There's still too much government intrusion, but at least in Texas we have.

02:15:01.000 As you know, I guess you're in Austin, but you know we have less intrusion.

02:15:07.000 Although, the Obama administration came down here to praise the jobs, but immediately is implementing more restrictions on those companies that are trying to create jobs.

02:15:17.000 Right, that was funny.

02:15:18.000 I think when Obama comes to Texas, he should stop talking and start listening, because Texas has got the economy figured out, it's got liberty figured out, at least a lot better than the feds.

02:15:29.000 Yeah, I was laughing at Olivia on NPR the other day.

02:15:33.000 She was commenting, she was saying, these extreme right states, such as Texas, have unfortunately got lucky, and now their economy is doing better.

02:15:45.000 Well, if you're listening... It has nothing to do with the extreme, quote unquote, extreme right policies, but it had to do with luck.

02:15:50.000 But see, that's just a language trick.

02:15:52.000 To call freedom, to call liberty, to call the Constitution extreme?

02:15:56.000 You know, that's a classic liberal leftist trick that they play on NPR as they're trying to hypnotize you, by the way.

02:16:03.000 Thank you for listening to NPR.

02:16:04.000 By the way, I'm doing it with your tax dollars.

02:16:07.000 Well, of course, yeah, of course.

02:16:08.000 We have to subsidize everything that's evil from the federal government.

02:16:13.000 People are shocked that government radio would want more government.

02:16:18.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:16:20.000 So about your tweets though, these are so funny.

02:16:22.000 They're really funny and insightful.

02:16:24.000 How do you come up with these tweets like this one?

02:16:27.000 The Democrats defending IRS abuses and illegal spying programs are the same one who insists they would never abuse a gun registry database.

02:16:35.000 Yeah, well, I think it's, you know, our friends at the, that do the cartoon, I just went blank, what's the one that they did?

02:16:46.000 They attack liberals and they asked us, why do you attack liberals instead of conservatives?

02:16:51.000 I said, well, conservatives are used to being attacked, but if you make fun of a liberal, they just go nuts.

02:16:58.000 A bumper sticker, which we've actually had during the campaign, it said if babies had guns it wouldn't be aborted.

02:17:05.000 And that just drove them nuts.

02:17:08.000 So anything we can do to strike the humor, and really their positions are quite humorous if you look at their ideology, it's easy to make fun of.

02:17:18.000 Well, it is funny.

02:17:19.000 We ran a story at Natural News, my website, last week about Pink Pistols.

02:17:24.000 It's a non-profit group that teaches gays and lesbians how to shoot for self-defense. 1.00

02:17:31.000 And the story just confused people.

02:17:34.000 They didn't know what to attack.

02:17:35.000 It was like, You know, some of the people were like, I'm against guns but I support gays, I can't attack the story.

02:17:41.000 It's like, no one could attack the story because it was crossing those two issues together in a way that doesn't normally happen.

02:17:48.000 Yeah, we did that with rape victims and the Huffington Post went off on us saying, you know, how can you say that?

02:17:48.000 People went ballistic.

02:17:55.000 It's just quite easy.

02:17:57.000 We want rape victims to have guns. 1.00

02:18:00.000 Then maybe they won't get raped. 0.96

02:18:00.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.96

02:18:03.000 Yeah, actually, we want all women to have guns. 1.00

02:18:05.000 And somebody said, well, you know, women don't know how to shoot guns. 1.00

02:18:08.000 I said, well, in Texas, all women do. 1.00

02:18:09.000 They'll teach them.

02:18:11.000 Oh, heck, at the ranges I've seen, women are very competent with guns and rifles and shotguns as well. 1.00

02:18:17.000 Let me read another one of your tweets.

02:18:19.000 Obama is collecting private information on every American, but says it's wrong to make someone show an ID to vote.

02:18:26.000 That's so true!

02:18:29.000 Yeah, there was another one we talked about, which was kind of funny.

02:18:34.000 R.S.

02:18:35.000 to God, I really did call, just ask Obama.

02:18:42.000 I don't know if you remember, of course you're aware of this, but the head of R.S.

02:18:48.000 was in the White House more than anybody else.

02:18:50.000 Of course, Obama and them never talked about this during the campaign, I'm sure.

02:18:55.000 He was in the White House 157 times.

02:18:58.000 And, of course, Obama had to read the paper about him showing up 157 times.

02:19:03.000 And we were talking, laughing, that he didn't know that this guy was in the White House 157 times, but he knows that you ordered Domino's.

02:19:14.000 It's so true. 0.84

02:19:14.000 Exactly. 0.84

02:19:15.000 He seems to have no clue what's going on right around him, but then the government's keeping tabs on all the details of your private life.

02:19:21.000 But any final thoughts?

02:19:22.000 We're about to wrap this up, Congressman.

02:19:24.000 Any final thoughts to leave us with here?

02:19:28.000 I appreciate the people that follow us, and as you know, we're giving away AR-15, which is also driving people nuts.

02:19:35.000 And if you go to our website, you know, you can pick up, register for a free AR-15.

02:19:41.000 Well, that's fantastic.

02:19:42.000 Just make sure you give away enough ammo, because people can't find that .223 these days.

02:19:46.000 Yeah, that's the next thing we're going to do.

02:19:48.000 Yeah, give them a couple of 30-round clips and say, Welcome to Texas!

02:19:53.000 Alright, well thank you, Congressman Stockman.

02:19:53.000 Yep.

02:19:56.000 It's a pleasure to have you on.

02:19:58.000 You have a great day and I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us.

02:19:58.000 Thank you so much.

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02:24:32.000 Again, 800-259-9231.

02:24:36.000 And I got to say, what I am really struck by in all of this is just how insane the media is to say, don't listen to Alex Jones.

02:24:47.000 I mean, Alex Jones has been right on so many things for so long, and he's been called a conspiracy theorist for so long on all the things that are now coming out and verified as true, that frankly, the mainstream media owes Alex Jones a massive apology.

02:25:05.000 A massive apology.

02:25:08.000 So all of the reporters out there in the mainstream media who have made fun of Alex, and they called him a conspiracy theory, and they called him a kook.

02:25:17.000 Or you know, whatever terms they use that are derogatory, they need to apologize now.

02:25:23.000 It's all coming out.

02:25:25.000 The NSA spy grid is coming out.

02:25:28.000 We are under assault.

02:25:30.000 We are being spied on by our own government.

02:25:33.000 And the media needs to stop with the nonsense.

02:25:37.000 I'm surprised.

02:25:39.000 I'm surprised that they don't even have, they should have like a Broadway special called, Don't Listen to Alex Jones.

02:25:46.000 It would go something like, Don't listen to Alex Jones.

02:25:50.000 Don't listen to Alex Jones.

02:25:53.000 No one is tapping your phones.

02:25:55.000 No one is searching your homes.

02:25:56.000 Like in Boston.

02:25:57.000 Don't listen to Alex Jones.

02:25:59.000 Don't listen to Alex Jones.

02:26:02.000 Fluoride is good for your bones.

02:26:04.000 There are no government drones.

02:26:07.000 Just listen to NPR, cause they never go too far.

02:26:11.000 Just listen to MSNBC, and give them an audience of three.

02:26:17.000 Don't listen, don't listen, don't listen, don't listen, don't listen to Alex Jones.

02:26:22.000 Don't listen, don't listen, don't listen, don't listen, because he's always right.

02:26:26.000 Yeah, I've had way too much chocolate today, sorry about that.

02:26:33.000 Uh, that's my singing debut on the Alex Jones Show.

02:26:36.000 You'll probably never see me again.

02:26:39.000 Like, no more of that!

02:26:40.000 Get the health ranger, get him off of there!

02:26:43.000 Oh my God, he's turning the show into opera!

02:26:46.000 Something's gone wrong!

02:26:47.000 Get Alex back here! 0.99

02:26:48.000 Thank God he's on an airplane right now or he'd be calling in right this minute!

02:26:52.000 Alright, let's go to calls.

02:26:53.000 Scott in Idaho.

02:26:55.000 Scott, you're on the air with apparently an insane health ranger.

02:26:59.000 Go ahead, Scott.

02:27:01.000 I think you have a fine voice, Michael.

02:27:02.000 Well, thank you!

02:27:06.000 I believe it was Benjamin Franklin that told us that a nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved.

02:27:16.000 It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.

02:27:20.000 I've had a website since about 1995 where I've taught people exactly what their rights are and what are the meanings of some of the words that we Throw around so carelessly like liberty, freedom, and justice.

02:27:35.000 I've spent probably the last 20 years trying to define these words for myself.

02:27:40.000 Excellent!

02:27:41.000 Go ahead, plug the website.

02:27:42.000 What's the site?

02:27:43.000 Uh, the website, you can find it on Google, just, or, uh, start page, just type in jailhouse lawyer and the word angel fire.

02:27:52.000 I'm the jailhouse lawyer and I'm on the Angel Fire domain.

02:27:56.000 I've got a legal research engine there where people can do their own legal research, be their own lawyer.

02:28:04.000 Many people aren't aware that at the turn of the century, most people were either their own lawyer or they got somebody that could talk for them in court.

02:28:14.000 That was before the American Bar Association got a monopoly on who can practice law in the courts.

02:28:20.000 Good point, Scott.

02:28:21.000 But let me ask you about the word freedom, because freedom is always abused.

02:28:25.000 Obama says freedom is being spied on.

02:28:27.000 That's freedom.

02:28:28.000 Can you talk for a minute about the abuse of the word freedom?

02:28:32.000 Sure.

02:28:34.000 Freedom, like other rights that were granted to us, and not by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, We're granted to us by God, previous to government, and those are the rights that we need to learn and cherish, because rights are property.

02:28:50.000 When they steal your rights, they're stealing your property.

02:28:54.000 This is the mindset that our founding fathers had, that rights are property.

02:29:00.000 But the Supreme Court of the United States has told us in one of its nefarious decisions that any rights not timely demanded in the courts are deemed to be waived.

02:29:13.000 So what I tell people is if you're not in court demanding your rights, you're waiving your rights.

02:29:19.000 And if you don't know what your rights are, you don't have any.

02:29:23.000 You nailed it.

02:29:24.000 You nailed it.

02:29:25.000 Because people walk in, and they don't realize they're walking into a trap, a legal trap.

02:29:25.000 Exactly.

02:29:30.000 So I appreciate your call, and I hope people check out your website there on Angel Fire.

02:29:36.000 And we'll be back with more phone calls.

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02:29:41.000 We'll be right back with more of your calls.

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02:33:05.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

02:33:15.000 News.

02:33:18.000 All right, there are a bunch of petitions that you need to be aware of.

02:33:21.000 One petition seeks a White House pardon for the whistleblower, Edward Snowden.

02:33:27.000 So search for that on the start page, of course.

02:33:31.000 Petition seeks White House pardon for Snowden so far.

02:33:34.000 Well, the petition says, let me just read this, if you believe in NSA surveillance?

02:33:40.000 We challenge you to a live public debate with Edward Snowden.

02:33:44.000 That would be funny.

02:33:45.000 Let's have the constitutional scholar, Obama, debating the NSA senior intelligence analyst whistleblower, Snowden.

02:33:53.000 Man, I'd pay money to see that.

02:33:55.000 To get a front row seat for that, I'd pay good money.

02:33:58.000 So far, we don't have very many signatures because it was just launched.

02:34:02.000 So add some signatures, we need 100,000, and then the White House will respond to that.

02:34:06.000 Also, wait a minute, I think there's 20,000.

02:34:10.000 I'm mixing up, there's several petitions.

02:34:13.000 Alright, so there are 20,000 signatures on the petition to pardon Snowden, 21,000.

02:34:17.000 And then another petition is to have Obama debate Edward Snowden.

02:34:24.000 And then finally we've also got the InfoWars petition, demand that Obama resign.

02:34:30.000 And how many signatures do we have on that petition, guys, so far?

02:34:34.000 You can find that at InfoWars.com or just search for the White House petition to demand that Obama resign.

02:34:42.000 Save us the trouble of going through an impeachment process is the description, and that's a story by Paul Joseph Watson.

02:34:50.000 That's got 13,000 signatures so far, and I'm sure it's rising quickly because that's also a very new petition.

02:34:56.000 Sign these petitions!

02:34:58.000 It's one way that you can make an impact on all of this.

02:35:03.000 Now, we're going to go, before we go back to your phone calls, and thank you for holding, whoa, Ship, Linda, Mike, Tom, and others, we're going to go to a video from Fox News featuring Judge Napolitano and his comments on why the Fourth Amendment actually matters.

02:35:20.000 Let's take a look at that.

02:35:21.000 First, though, let's take this new matter to the judge.

02:35:23.000 Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.

02:35:25.000 Harry Reid says, we should just calm down, Judge.

02:35:29.000 This has been going on a long time.

02:35:31.000 They've been able to stop some sort of terrorism, this, that, or the other thing.

02:35:34.000 So just don't worry about it.

02:35:36.000 just relax everybody see that the first though let's take this new matter to the judge Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.

02:35:47.000 Harry Reid says, we should just calm down, Judge.

02:35:50.000 This has been going on a long time.

02:35:52.000 They've been able to stop some sort of terrorism, this, that, or the other thing.

02:35:55.000 So just don't worry about it.

02:35:57.000 Just relax, everybody.

02:35:58.000 See, the laws are really screwy here, Shep.

02:36:01.000 The laws allow the executive branch, the President and his agents, to tell select members of Congress when they are doing things like that, but prohibits those members of Congress from telling the other members of Congress or the American people.

02:36:14.000 Just because Harry Reid knew about this for seven years and it's been going on for seven years, does not mean that it is constitutionally permissible.

02:36:22.000 This is a phishing expedition on the grandest scale we've ever seen in American history.

02:36:27.000 They are looking for a select group of people and in order to find that select group of people, the Constitution says, present some evidence against them to a judge and you'll get a search warrant for their phones.

02:36:37.000 Rather than doing that, they got a search warrant for a hundred and thirteen million phones.

02:36:42.000 That we know of.

02:36:43.000 That we know of.

02:36:44.000 And they said to us, you know, don't worry.

02:36:46.000 Trust us.

02:36:46.000 It's fine.

02:36:47.000 We're not listening to the calls, we're just keeping records of them.

02:36:50.000 Who would trust them after this?

02:36:51.000 The Constitution doesn't trust them.

02:36:53.000 As Catherine Harris just pointed out, they lied under oath this administration.

02:36:58.000 When they were asked under oath, are you collecting information about American citizens?

02:37:03.000 Good job, Judge.

02:37:04.000 That's the point, is who would trust the NSA at this point?

02:37:08.000 How can you ever trust them?

02:37:09.000 And also, how can you ever trust these technology companies?

02:37:13.000 They lied to you, okay?

02:37:15.000 Google, Facebook, AOL, Apple.

02:37:18.000 They lied to you when they said that there are no backdoors.

02:37:21.000 We've seen the prism slide.

02:37:23.000 There is a backdoor, direct server access to all these tech companies.

02:37:26.000 They've been lying to their users for years.

02:37:29.000 We've got the timeline.

02:37:31.000 We know what year they started the connection.

02:37:33.000 Where does it end?

02:37:35.000 Probably never ends unless we somehow stand up to it.

02:37:38.000 And if we don't, they're going to end up reading our thoughts, okay?

02:37:42.000 And throwing us in jail for thought crimes.

02:37:45.000 And you know all of us here at InfoWars are of course guilty of thought crimes because we actually can think.

02:37:52.000 So that right there makes you a threat, a terrorist for having skeptical thoughts about the fake news that we're all being told by the mainstream media.

02:38:04.000 Let's go to some more calls because we're getting such great calls today.

02:38:07.000 Let's see if we can get a crazy call here at some point.

02:38:10.000 But let's go to Ship in San Antonio.

02:38:12.000 Doesn't it sound crazy?

02:38:13.000 Ship, you're on the air. 0.99

02:38:15.000 Are you crazy or do you love to be spied on? 0.99

02:38:18.000 What's the deal? 1.00

02:38:19.000 Oh man, I hate being spied on, dude.

02:38:22.000 And it seems like they just, uh, more and more spy on us.

02:38:27.000 Yeah, that's their goal.

02:38:28.000 That's their system.

02:38:29.000 And, oh, and you're paying for it, Chip.

02:38:31.000 Your tax dollars are paying for you to be spied on.

02:38:34.000 How do you like that?

02:38:35.000 It's pretty typical.

02:38:37.000 I mean, that just goes along with the whole agenda that they push on us every day.

02:38:43.000 Well, what do you think we should do about it?

02:38:44.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:38:46.000 Oh, no, it's cool.

02:38:47.000 Um, I live here in San Antonio, you know, and, um, I have a bunch of friends that are, you know, ex-military and a bunch of the alphabet gangs and stuff.

02:38:56.000 And they have, you know, kind of given me info here and there.

02:39:00.000 Basically, there are, you know, hubs here in San Antonio that are spy stations, dude.

02:39:06.000 Like, they listen to your calls, they do everything.

02:39:09.000 It's a data mining center.

02:39:10.000 Yeah?

02:39:11.000 And there's not just one, there's quite a bit.

02:39:12.000 Like, the one I know for sure is an old Kmart.

02:39:16.000 That's to the magnitude of how big it is.

02:39:20.000 The Blue Light Special Surveillance Grid.

02:39:23.000 No kidding, right?

02:39:24.000 Yeah.

02:39:25.000 So what do your friends say they want to do about it?

02:39:28.000 Are they just going to sit back and let it, let the NSA roll over them or what?

02:39:32.000 Well, it's not like, I mean, I'm one of a few, you know, my brother-in-law is really big into it, like feels the same way I do, but you know, it's kind of hard to push and not push, just like open the ears to people that, you know, don't want to hear it.

02:39:47.000 You know, you kind of, kind of gradually ease them into it.

02:39:52.000 Like, at first you tell them their emails are being read, and then... You know, and it's frustrating because you want somebody to be like, you know, take the bull by the horns, you know, and they are just so naive and weak to say, you know, well, whatever, this is the way it is.

02:40:07.000 And I'm like, dude, you can't be like that, man.

02:40:11.000 You've got to really get out there and...

02:40:13.000 And say, you know what, enough is enough, dude.

02:40:16.000 And they're like, well, where do I start?

02:40:17.000 What do I do?

02:40:18.000 Well, no, ship.

02:40:19.000 They trust the Obama government.

02:40:21.000 They trust Obama.

02:40:23.000 See, they wouldn't trust a Republican with these powers, no, because that would be bad.

02:40:26.000 And I agree, that is bad.

02:40:28.000 But they trust a Democrat with it because Democrats never do anything evil.

02:40:33.000 Get that straight.

02:40:34.000 It's the naivety and this, it can't happen to us, this exceptionalism.

02:40:41.000 You know, that, oh, you know, it won't happen to us here, which is a crock and it's a shame that people don't see that, you know, it can happen anywhere.

02:40:50.000 It's not just saying, oh, this could happen somewhere else or a foreign country.

02:40:55.000 Like, why are we so exempt?

02:40:57.000 Why are we...

02:40:58.000 so special we are not we are humans and people just as everywhere else well in fact it's so bad that the whistleblower fled to china to tell the truth about america i mean it's like it's like fleeing to north korea and saying kim jong-un you know give me freedom it's just that's how bad it's gotten in america it's just crazy and it's like where where do they where do we cross that line to

02:41:27.000 Like Adam Kokesh and stuff, I was totally for that, but at the same time, it's like, man, that's a thin blue line to where you gotta say, man, what could they stage something like that, even though A peaceful protest should be that of the people.

02:41:41.000 And it's like we have gotten so far away from our forefathers that they are rolling in their graves.

02:41:47.000 Well, it's clear this is never going to be stopped by a bunch of peaceful protests.

02:41:50.000 I mean, I'm not calling for violence, but peaceful protests are going to go nowhere because they're just going to keep lying to us, basically.

02:41:57.000 Exactly.

02:41:58.000 And it's like, if a peaceful protest isn't enough, and these little You know, 10 bits of information we're getting that aren't awaking everybody.

02:42:08.000 It's like, what is?

02:42:09.000 What will wake you up, people?

02:42:11.000 Yeah, it's going to have to be like a mass roundup of people, you know, throwing them into the incinerators and then, you know, maybe some people wake up.

02:42:19.000 But great call, Chip.

02:42:21.000 I really appreciate you calling in.

02:42:22.000 Good, good conversation there.

02:42:23.000 Let's go to Mike in Chicago.

02:42:25.000 Mike, you've got comments about false flags.

02:42:27.000 That's what the notes say.

02:42:30.000 You know, I was just kind of looking at some of the stuff going on in California and it kind of seems kind of odd how some of these people get away with walking around with what they say that they're carrying.

02:42:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:42:40.000 You know, somebody with a vest with multiple clips and shotguns and assault rifles.

02:42:45.000 How did this guy walk around and not get caught by anybody?

02:42:47.000 You're talking about the shooting.

02:42:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:42:51.000 How did nobody take this guy down?

02:42:53.000 Well, I know, since people get the police called on them when they're carrying an umbrella or a water gun or a Pop-Tart.

02:43:00.000 Absolutely.

02:43:02.000 You know, I live in an association, which I think they're like Nazis, you know, is where I live. 0.88

02:43:06.000 Right, homeowner Nazis.

02:43:07.000 And I was burning one day some leaves.

02:43:10.000 Next thing I know, I have four police officers at my house for burning leaves.

02:43:14.000 Yeah, well, that's an act of terrorism against the environment there, bud.

02:43:19.000 I'm telling you.

02:43:20.000 And, you know, I wanted to tell a quick story.

02:43:23.000 I'm in my mid-30s, and when I was about 8 years old, my dad took me to Army Surplus for my birthday.

02:43:31.000 That must have been fun.

02:43:34.000 It's like a kid in a candy store.

02:43:37.000 Well, I got, like, boots and a little backpack, and then they had, like, little training grenades, you know, and they had holes in the bottom.

02:43:46.000 Well, I actually brought it to school because we used to play war.

02:43:50.000 And I threw it, like, into, like, a crowd of kids were playing, and I knew it was fake then, you know.

02:43:50.000 Yeah.

02:43:57.000 Well, the next thing I know, I'm in the office, and all that happened at that time was I went to a Catholic school.

02:44:03.000 All that happened at that time was my dad got called, my mom got called. 0.99

02:44:07.000 You know, my dad whooped my butt. 0.83

02:44:09.000 But now, if you did that, even if it was fake, you'd be thrown in jail and they'd throw the jail away. 0.98

02:44:16.000 Oh yeah.

02:44:17.000 They would arrest the parents, take the kids.

02:44:19.000 Yeah, I mean, gee, how dare you have a fake, you know, hand grenade.

02:44:24.000 Unbelievable.

02:44:24.000 You know, I was eight years old.

02:44:26.000 I knew it was fake, but it was, you know, when you're a kid like that, it was fun playing war and stuff.

02:44:30.000 Nowadays, if you did that, What if you had a little toy tank?

02:44:34.000 You know, a toy tank?

02:44:35.000 It might be a real one.

02:44:37.000 They can... Absolutely.

02:44:38.000 How dare you bring a tank to school?

02:44:41.000 Absolutely.

02:44:42.000 And, you know, just, you know, I just wanted to say, you know, that the times have changed so much now and I'm in my early thirties and I'm looking at going, wow, I feel like I'm turning into an old man because just stuff is changing so fast and the way kids are growing up and being You're right, Mike.

02:44:59.000 And now these kids are growing up under the regime of the NSA.

02:45:01.000 and the way they've got to think and the things they can and can't do.

02:45:04.000 You can't have a garden.

02:45:05.000 You can't have this.

02:45:06.000 You can't have that anymore.

02:45:07.000 And it's just America is not America anymore.

02:45:10.000 Well, you're right, Mike.

02:45:11.000 And now these kids are growing up under the regime of the NSA.

02:45:15.000 So as these kids grow up, everything is being monitored.

02:45:18.000 Can you imagine when those kids grow up and become, let's say, congressmen or senators, all the stuff they did as kids being used against them by the NSA?

02:45:26.000 I mean, imagine that.

02:45:27.000 I mean, come on, we were all, you know, 18 once.

02:45:31.000 Think of the stuff you did when you were 18.

02:45:33.000 Imagine if that was all on the record.

02:45:35.000 Come on.

02:45:36.000 No, no.

02:45:39.000 Thank you for your time.

02:45:41.000 I just wanted to get that out.

02:45:43.000 I love the show and you guys are doing an awesome job.

02:45:45.000 Keep it going.

02:45:46.000 Well, good call, Mike.

02:45:47.000 Thank you for your comments.

02:45:48.000 I really appreciate the callers today.

02:45:49.000 Let's go to another caller.

02:45:51.000 Josh in Utah.

02:45:52.000 Josh, you're live on National Radio.

02:45:55.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:45:57.000 Hey Mike, I think you're doing an awesome job and I would love to see you have your own show, if you choose.

02:46:03.000 Hey, thank you sir.

02:46:04.000 Well, I've offered Alex to do a weekly health show, like a health exposed type of show.

02:46:10.000 So as soon as his new studio is ready, maybe we'll do that.

02:46:13.000 I'd love to do it.

02:46:14.000 That would be great.

02:46:16.000 Also, I thought this year's Bilderberg coverage was outstanding.

02:46:20.000 It was great to see they actually admit that they exist.

02:46:24.000 No, the next step is to actually have them admit what they're actually talking about.

02:46:28.000 Oh, you mean, are you talking about that conference that doesn't exist?

02:46:33.000 Yeah.

02:46:34.000 Yeah, that one.

02:46:35.000 Well, you notice I didn't talk about it today because I don't talk about things that don't exist.

02:46:39.000 How dare you call about the B, the B thing, you know, because letters of the alphabet are thought crimes.

02:46:48.000 You have to talk about something other than B. I'm sorry.

02:46:53.000 Okay, well, tell me what you want me to talk about.

02:46:56.000 Well, we have to talk about the Ildeberg Conference, is my point.

02:46:59.000 Ildeberg.

02:47:00.000 Oh, Ildeberg, okay.

02:47:01.000 And the Ildebergers. 1.00

02:47:03.000 It was just a great conference.

02:47:05.000 I thought a lot of things got out there, and a lot of things came out, and I'm just happy things are progressing in the right direction.

02:47:14.000 Well, isn't it interesting, though, Josh, that five years ago the media pretended that Alex Jones was delusional when he was reporting about the Ildebergers, and now they say, oh, it's all real, but it doesn't matter, it's just a bunch of people meeting about nothing really important.

02:47:29.000 Yeah, they're just talking about, uh...

02:47:31.000 You know, how to improve their businesses.

02:47:34.000 They're doing such a good job.

02:47:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:47:36.000 It's like a country club.

02:47:37.000 They're just shooting pool, ordering chicken fried steak, and having some tea.

02:47:41.000 That's the Ilderberg Conference.

02:47:42.000 Well, thank you for your call, Josh.

02:47:44.000 Some good points.

02:47:45.000 Let's go to Dave in Michigan with maybe comments on the NSA.

02:47:48.000 Dave, you're on the air.

02:47:50.000 Hey, Mike.

02:47:50.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:47:51.000 I just wanted to say I think Alex did a great job in England, and I've really learned a lot from you over the years sitting in for Alex.

02:48:00.000 Thank you.

02:48:04.000 I'm walking over the window, I'm opening my window, I'm sticking my head out the window, and I'm saying, I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT ANYMORE!

02:48:15.000 Yeah man, say it!

02:48:17.000 I love it!

02:48:18.000 I love your energy!

02:48:19.000 People are off the charts, the news, the media, the You know, the government, everybody, and the neighbors.

02:48:30.000 People are so asleep at the wheel. 1.00

02:48:34.000 It's pathetic. 1.00

02:48:35.000 You can't wake anybody up. 0.99

02:48:37.000 We've been on longevity for two years.

02:48:39.000 That stuff is great.

02:48:41.000 I'm legally blind and I moved from the city to the country on 10 acres because of Alex Jones.

02:48:51.000 Um, you know, I don't agree with everything he says, but I'm telling you, he is the best we got.

02:48:56.000 And, you know, you're right up there with him.

02:48:58.000 And I love what you're teaching us about, you know, our bodies and the environment and, you know, just being the health ranger and, uh.

02:49:07.000 Well, thank you, Dave.

02:49:08.000 Thank you, Dave.

02:49:09.000 I love your energy and your passion, and you're right, you know.

02:49:12.000 None of us are perfect, but we're the best we got, you know, and it's not about any person.

02:49:17.000 It's not about Alex or me or any, or, you know, Celente or anybody.

02:49:22.000 It's not about any people.

02:49:23.000 It's about how we, the people, Are standing up against this charity and exposing the charity and telling the truth even in the face of just incredible lies and deceptions by the mainstream media.

02:49:34.000 And we won't shut up and we won't put up with it and we won't sit down and behave.

02:49:40.000 We're going to keep speaking out and fighting back against these injustices.

02:49:43.000 We're going to keep doing it right here from Infowars.com and all of the alternative media which is the new mainstream media.

02:49:49.000 So you're right on.

02:49:51.000 I love your passion and we're with you man.

02:49:53.000 Thank you.

02:49:54.000 All right.

02:49:54.000 Thank you for your call, Dave.

02:49:56.000 Let's go to Mark in Philadelphia.

02:49:58.000 Go ahead, Mark.

02:49:59.000 Welcome to the show.

02:50:00.000 Helldranger.

02:50:02.000 Hey.

02:50:03.000 How are you, sir?

02:50:04.000 I'm doing good today.

02:50:05.000 I'm having a little too much fun, I've been told.

02:50:08.000 I've got a quick list of items I'd love to hit you with real quick.

02:50:11.000 Alright, go for it.

02:50:12.000 First off, not only does this snooping stifle and eviscerate the Fourth Amendment, but it clearly stifles the First Amendment because you have people of all kinds, of all their different types of digital communications, where they're going to feel like they can't say anything.

02:50:27.000 as if they probably shouldn't have already, moving forward because, well, personal and otherwise, it's going to be recorded to be used against them as blackmail a la J. Edgar Hoover for the next decade.

02:50:37.000 Oh, yeah.

02:50:37.000 Okay, number one.

02:50:39.000 Secondly, I have not heard anyone talk about the fact that this massive amount of business espionage that's going to be going on here where, you know, we're talking about Iran-Contra on steroids.

02:50:51.000 Oh, yeah.

02:50:51.000 Hey, Mark, we've got to go to break.

02:50:53.000 Stay on the phone though.

02:50:54.000 We'll come right back to you after this break and continue with your points, okay?

02:50:58.000 It's a great call.

02:50:58.000 Stay with us.

02:50:59.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:51:00.000 We'll be right back after this break with more insanity.

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02:54:24.000 You never know what you're going to find behind the desk here at the Alex Jones headquarters in Infowars Studio.

02:54:30.000 Today, I walk in and there's the Infidel body armor just sitting here. 1.00

02:54:36.000 Oh my god, it's heavy too.

02:54:38.000 And I was joking with the guys that we should have a new brand called Infidel Castro body armor that only stops communist bullets. 0.79

02:54:49.000 They thought that's not even funny.

02:54:51.000 Gone too far.

02:54:53.000 Infidel Armor.

02:54:54.000 They're a sponsor of the show now, right?

02:54:56.000 That's why there's armors here?

02:54:58.000 Or is this Alex's plan?

02:55:00.000 This is his escape plan!

02:55:02.000 He's gonna come back, say something, interview Ed Snowden, and then slap on the body armor and head out of here.

02:55:09.000 No, I'm sorry.

02:55:10.000 Let's go to calls.

02:55:11.000 Nick in California.

02:55:12.000 You're on the air, Nick.

02:55:13.000 Crazy subjects.

02:55:14.000 What's on your mind, Nick?

02:55:16.000 There are magnetic strips on the road that detect cars just before it gets flowing.

02:55:21.000 Well, the status quo is a collective of information being sold for personal gain and the use of it for manipulation.

02:55:28.000 Yeah.

02:55:29.000 And the crazy part is you're getting your blood and urine samples just for environmental aspects.

02:55:35.000 The chemtrails are going stealth.

02:55:38.000 Wait a minute.

02:55:38.000 You get your grocery cards, they know what you're buying.

02:55:41.000 They'll get somebody into that company and I'm afraid to buy bottled water anyway, I have to.

02:55:46.000 Wait a minute, I just want to clarify.

02:55:48.000 So you're saying, I mean they are swabbing your DNA at police stops and checkpoints now, and they are monitoring your grocery purchases with your loyalty cards, you're right.

02:55:56.000 And I've had my blood test, I mean my urine test just taken, and a week later there was a door slam and I thought I was smelling something and things went wrong with me for a while.

02:56:05.000 What?

02:56:05.000 I mean that's the reality today.

02:56:08.000 All these chemicals and concentrations that can be used.

02:56:10.000 Well, I don't quite track everything you're saying, but I think you're on to something.

02:56:15.000 A criminal is a biological corrupt, and if you're in a holy place like the land of Jesus, and they pour something in your urine and corrupt you, they can run stuff.

02:56:27.000 I'm curious what's in your urine test.

02:56:29.000 Let's go to the next caller, Mike in Wyoming.

02:56:31.000 Sorry, it just helps to have your thoughts organized.

02:56:35.000 Mike, in Wyoming, you're on the air.

02:56:37.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:56:39.000 Yeah, hi Mike.

02:56:39.000 I was watching Fox News as I was getting ready for work this morning and I heard Congressman Kevin McCarthy say some pretty nasty things about Oh, the whistleblower.

02:56:54.000 Snowden.

02:56:55.000 Snowden, thank you, who went out to Hong Kong and then Stephen King was quoted also as saying that no country should give sanctuary to these guys.

02:57:04.000 And I would encourage people to call their offices, that is McCarthy and King.

02:57:10.000 Peter King?

02:57:13.000 Peter King, thank you.

02:57:16.000 It is a horror novel that we are reading, though, by the way.

02:57:20.000 A former IRA terrorist, gun runner.

02:57:25.000 This man should know terrorism when he sees it.

02:57:27.000 Call their offices and encourage them to impeach Obama rather than trying to discourage whistleblowers.

02:57:35.000 One other thing, you were talking about the NSA and how health information is not going to be safe anymore.

02:57:43.000 The AIG, the American Insurance Group, which controls the majority of medical insurance in this country until, you know, until it was bought out basically by the government.

02:57:58.000 I mean, they were run by Morris Greenberg, who was closely attached to the CIA, so I have no doubt that the CIA had access to medical records for many years during Greenberg's tenure there.

02:58:11.000 Well, it's pretty clear that we are now living under a spy-ocracy, maybe combined with an idiocracy, but definitely a spy-ocracy component.

02:58:20.000 Well, anyway, I thank you for your call.

02:58:21.000 That's our last caller.

02:58:22.000 That's our show for today.

02:58:24.000 Thank you for listening or watching on PrisonPlanet.TV.

02:58:27.000 Check more news at InfoWars.com.

02:58:30.000 Thank you to the crew today.

02:58:31.000 You did a great job.

02:58:31.000 Awesome show.

02:58:33.000 I enjoyed the calls and the production values.

02:58:35.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger.

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02:58:41.000 Alex is back tomorrow.

02:58:42.000 I don't know when I'm back, but he'll let me know.

02:58:44.000 Talk to you later.

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Alex Jones Show - June 10, 2013

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