Alex Jones Show - 20130613_Thu_Alex

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00:00:29.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this Thursday Worldwide Transmission, the 13th day of June 2020.

00:00:52.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:57.000 General Hamid Gul, that nobody can get on television or radio in the Western media, nobody, will be joining us because he's a listener of the show.

00:01:11.000 General Hamid Gul, who ran the Afghan war with the CIA against the Russians, will be joining us from Pakistan to talk about the West now running Al Qaeda in Libya and Syria and what he thinks is behind that.

00:01:26.000 Let's just say a lot of government agencies will be listening on air and on the phone line.

00:01:31.000 A lot of times they try to jam the phone lines.

00:01:31.000 We have to.

00:01:33.000 We have to move around.

00:01:34.000 Then Colonel Tony Schaefer will be joining us, who was blocked from killing bin Laden right before 9-11 about two months before in 2001.

00:01:46.000 He is going to be coming on to give us his take on the whole NSA situation.

00:01:50.000 And then I got a nice call from Dr. Pachinik this morning.

00:01:54.000 Saying he's got the big inside scoop and his big buddies with General Alexander, the head of the NSA or head of Cyber Command.

00:02:01.000 We're going to work on getting him on tomorrow or Sunday.

00:02:04.000 We'll see about that.

00:02:06.000 You know, last night I had dinner with my dad and he said, you know, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't talk about me and the CIA.

00:02:19.000 And I said, why?

00:02:20.000 And he goes, because it sounds crazy.

00:02:24.000 And I said, well, was your run-ins with them true?

00:02:27.000 I mean, I saw some of it as a kid.

00:02:30.000 And he said, well, yeah, but people aren't going to believe it.

00:02:33.000 And I said, I don't care.

00:02:35.000 General Hamid Ghul's coming on.

00:02:37.000 That sounds crazy.

00:02:38.000 It's happening.

00:02:40.000 I had MI5 and police tell me Bilderberg's going to go public to BBC.

00:02:45.000 We broke it.

00:02:46.000 It happened.

00:02:48.000 And more and more, that's the issue that I have trouble with, my dad does, we all do.

00:02:52.000 We can't believe how real reality is, how bizarre it is for the stranger than fiction.

00:02:59.000 So my dad opened up last night and said, I guess go ahead and talk about it.

00:03:04.000 He didn't sign any national security agreements about when he was one of the favorite Just because he was a smart guy and friendly.

00:03:15.000 Professors once a week when he went and taught at Baylor Dental School and Oral Surgery School.

00:03:24.000 And he told me some pretty wild stuff.

00:03:29.000 How they would send the CIA there because they could have bigger operating rooms.

00:03:35.000 They'd have to have other CIA people there when anything medical was done to anybody.

00:03:40.000 Of course, that's on record that that goes on because they could drug somebody and try to get data.

00:03:44.000 So that was one reason.

00:03:46.000 But then my dad and a few other professors out of a whole bunch of them there were picked to be the ones they wanted to be worked on by because they knew my dad's, I guess, family background and things, you know, goes way back.

00:03:59.000 That's kind of how this works, at least in the old days.

00:04:02.000 If you went back to the start of the country, then you were like, you know, seen as safe or whatever.

00:04:06.000 CIA is completely different now.

00:04:08.000 It's just completely turned over to foreign corporations and globalists and has been deeply in bed with them for a long time.

00:04:13.000 But he was telling me about senior CIA people coming, and that's when they tried to hire him and some of the other professors.

00:04:19.000 To go work in Maryland, and they said, we noticed in your college file you were into cybernetics and electrical engineering, and even did some of that in the National Science Program when you were in high school, building lasers and things.

00:04:34.000 You like that?

00:04:35.000 He goes, but yeah, I have to go back to school and get an electrical engineering.

00:04:38.000 No, no, no, there are shortcuts.

00:04:40.000 You don't need to do that.

00:04:42.000 The point is, is my dad's like, don't tell those stories. 0.54

00:04:45.000 They sound nuts.

00:04:46.000 You know, the general public won't believe it. 0.97

00:04:48.000 Well, whatever.

00:04:49.000 It's true.

00:04:49.000 So it's told.

00:04:50.000 And he said, I could tell it.

00:04:52.000 And I kind of babbled through it because it was parts of it he didn't want told.

00:04:54.000 So that's why I was kind of.

00:04:56.000 Bumbling around there, but just how bizarre that in the early 80s.

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00:08:25.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:33.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

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00:08:54.000 Thank you so much for joining us, ladies and gentlemen.

00:08:57.000 It is Thursday, the 13th day of June 2013, and here's what I want to do.

00:09:05.000 I have got just massive amounts of key news and information.

00:09:09.000 I'd like to mention some of what's coming up, and then I'd like to open the phones up for first-time callers to give us your take on all the scandals from Benghazigate to NSAgate to IRS Harassmentgate to Everything that we see unfolding, will this country pull out of what's happening?

00:09:30.000 And Max Keiser predicted about a year ago that by April, late April or early May, there would be an accelerated collapse of world markets based on an implosion of the dollar.

00:09:45.000 And he claims that he's now predicted somewhat accurately because it's now begun.

00:09:50.000 Started last week, it's continuing.

00:09:51.000 Global shares drop, dollar slumps as Route gathers pace.

00:09:55.000 I want to get him back on today or tomorrow, just for like 10 minutes.

00:09:58.000 Nikkei plunges 6.4, re-enters bear market at CNBC.

00:10:04.000 We've got a bunch of news on Obamacare and the fight on that today as well.

00:10:10.000 This is an investor's business daily.

00:10:12.000 On Monday, Congressman Stockman of Texas on this broadcast with Mike Adams, the health ranger, sitting in said that, look, in Congress, in the congressional investigations, Uh, that Al-Qaeda and Muslim extremists cannot be targeted by the NSA.

00:10:26.000 Uh, and that it's only for the Tea Party.

00:10:32.000 Well, Investors Business Daily has confirmed that with Congress.

00:10:35.000 This is a big deal.

00:10:38.000 I mean, not only were they always building homeland security for the American people, and to intimidate the press, and to make sure good people in government can't blow the whistle and stop corruption.

00:10:49.000 Now, they're not even saying it's pointed at Al-Qaeda anymore.

00:10:54.000 And that's why when I go through TSA and they want to grope me and search me and ask me if I'm a terrorist, I just go, hey, the government runs Al-Qaeda, they ship in the drugs.

00:11:02.000 You got a problem, sir?

00:11:03.000 Yeah, I do, actually.

00:11:04.000 This is all security theater to train me that I'm a prisoner.

00:11:08.000 Well, let's just get you right through.

00:11:10.000 Oh, we apologize.

00:11:11.000 Hey, you know, those machines will give you cancer. 0.99

00:11:13.000 Oh, actually, we do.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:15.000 Oh, can I have your autograph?

00:11:16.000 I mean, because it's mass Stockholm syndrome.

00:11:20.000 The TSA people are under mass Stockholm syndrome.

00:11:23.000 The police are under it.

00:11:25.000 The bureaucrats are under it. 0.97

00:11:26.000 The population's under it. 0.98

00:11:28.000 People in government are under more hen-pecking, micromanagement, red-tape garbage on short leashes by the government!

00:11:37.000 Now they're taught to not be on any leashes with the Constitution or Bill of Rights, but when it comes to government dominating each other, that's where it's going on. 0.92

00:11:45.000 The police might as well be robots now.

00:11:48.000 How they're being watched live in their squad cars more and more with these data links, and audio links, and they're reviewing what they do, and telling them to be more aggressive, and telling them to be rude, and telling them to dominate.

00:11:59.000 That's the kind of stuff going on.

00:12:01.000 That's the revolution in policing they're trying to push.

00:12:05.000 Because the globalists have got to get things ready before they collapse everything or there'll be a restoration of the republic.

00:12:12.000 The globalists are the revolutionaries.

00:12:15.000 They're the ones trying to twist society, bankrupt institutions, de-industrialize to get control.

00:12:21.000 We're under a military globalist economic attack.

00:12:24.000 I mean, look at this Investors Business Daily headline.

00:12:34.000 Obama's snooping excludes mosque.

00:12:37.000 Missed Boston bombers.

00:12:39.000 Oh, I guarantee you they didn't miss them, they were running them.

00:12:42.000 Those guys were patsies, undoubtedly.

00:12:44.000 The secret war, infiltration, sabotage, mayhem.

00:12:47.000 For years, four-star general Keith Alexander has been building a secret army capable of launching devastating cyber attacks.

00:12:53.000 Now it's ready to be unleashed and unleash hell.

00:12:57.000 Curt Nemo, like five years ago, wrote articles about Cyber Command that's already operating.

00:13:01.000 They're building giant, huge bases in San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, just around where I live.

00:13:08.000 There's one down the street from my house that spies on citizens locally.

00:13:12.000 Threat fusion centers everywhere.

00:13:15.000 Giant facility in Utah.

00:13:16.000 Facilities in the Ozarks.

00:13:18.000 I mean, they're just building these things everywhere.

00:13:21.000 It's no exaggeration.

00:13:23.000 In the amount of funds being spent, I saw one number of about 15 times the Manhattan Project.

00:13:32.000 And it's, they told you to fight Al-Qaeda.

00:13:36.000 It's actually used to shut down the internet and spy on anybody who's resisting Al-Qaeda.

00:13:43.000 The radical Muslim Jihad Brigades they use to take down their enemies. 0.75

00:13:47.000 They took down the Constitution with them.

00:13:50.000 They're taking down Libya and Syria, trying to take down Russia with them. 0.98

00:13:54.000 They took down Serbia with them, had the Muslims attack, Serbia fought back. 0.99

00:13:59.000 The West invaded, blew up the infrastructure of the country, handed it over to the Albanian Muslims and Al-Qaeda. 1.00

00:14:05.000 And again, I'm not anti-Serb, I'm not anti-Muslim, I'm showing you how this is done. 1.00

00:14:10.000 Sure, the Serbs did atrocities, and the Croats and the Muslims did atrocities as well.

00:14:15.000 In fact, about 2 to 1 against the Serbs.

00:14:17.000 Sometimes I'll get in the car and somebody will say, I am Croatian or I am Croatian Muslim and I don't appreciate you supporting the Serbs.

00:14:26.000 And I'm like, look, you know the numbers.

00:14:30.000 You know that you guys started a lot of that and actually killed about double the Serbs. 1.00

00:14:34.000 Does not matter, they are pigs! 1.00

00:14:35.000 And I'm like, well, I'm not a Serb, okay? 1.00

00:14:38.000 I got a lot of blood in me and I'm not Slavic. 1.00

00:14:40.000 I think Slavics are great, great people, but I'm not Slavic.

00:14:43.000 Okay, I don't have a dog in this fight, other than justice. 0.97

00:14:47.000 And you know the UN and NATO started all that, and went in, and they're just like, whatever, some of what you say is good, but much of it, Serbian pigs, blah blah blah. 1.00

00:14:58.000 The point is, is that I'm not, I'm not Arabic, I'm not Semitic, I'm not, I don't have any connection to Syria.

00:15:09.000 Other than Syria was democratizing and being friendly, and women weren't wearing burqas, and their standard living was going up despite all sorts of sanctions and stuff, and they were not funding terrorism, and they have jihadis swinging by the chandeliers of their country, beheading Christians, burning down mosques, blowing up synagogues, and man, Bill Clinton's in the news today in Politico going, Bill Clinton splits with President Obama on Syria, says he's not doing enough.

00:15:38.000 See how that gives Obama fake left cover?

00:15:40.000 You've only given a billion to Al Qaeda.

00:15:43.000 You've only got howitzer attacks going out of Turkey against him.

00:15:47.000 You've only got... that's not enough Obama.

00:15:49.000 And then that gives Obama cover.

00:15:50.000 Oh, he's not doing enough.

00:15:53.000 He's a peacenik.

00:15:54.000 Let's give him a peace prize.

00:15:56.000 And they got the neocons going, attack!

00:15:59.000 Attack!

00:16:00.000 Clinton's like, I agree with John McCain.

00:16:04.000 It's all, they all just sit around and go, okay, we're all going to be for the NSA spying, and Dianne Feinstein, you're going to come out against it, even though your husband's getting contracts from it, in the hundreds of millions.

00:16:13.000 How's that sound?

00:16:15.000 And then she comes out and puts out a half-baked attempt, you know, we need to have questions, huh?

00:16:20.000 I mean, it's all bad theater.

00:16:23.000 I mean, the worst dinner theater, if you've ever gone to dinner theater, you know, have dinner and see a play, the worst dinner theater is better than these people.

00:16:31.000 They are bad actors.

00:16:34.000 And I mean that as a double entendre pun.

00:16:37.000 They are bad actors on every single front.

00:16:42.000 They're just gangsters who want to impoverish the West so they don't ever have a political rebellion that puts them all in jail.

00:16:51.000 And they write books explaining that.

00:16:54.000 That's really what makes me so mad about all this, is they're blowing the engine out of the U.S.

00:16:58.000 They're shutting down our power plants, our grids, paying to ship our jobs overseas.

00:17:04.000 It's not just that competition with slave labor in China.

00:17:07.000 You know, you pay $21 billion to move General Motors to China.

00:17:11.000 The government federalizes it with your money, when it was far from going under, and then ships it to China, and it's in the back of the newspaper like a great thing.

00:17:22.000 And then Obama raises the carbon price yesterday of a defunct, defeated, never passed law And then the money literally goes to him.

00:17:33.000 He has major investments in the Chicago Mercantile. 0.94

00:17:36.000 Just flagrantly illegal, flagrantly ridiculous. 0.76

00:17:41.000 See, there's just some of the news that I've got here in the stack today. 0.84

00:17:49.000 By the way, Colonel Schaeffer thought he was on at 1 o'clock Eastern today.

00:17:58.000 So that's good.

00:17:59.000 So we've moved Hameed Ghul to one. 1.00

00:18:02.000 General Hameed Ghul.

00:18:05.000 And we moved Schaefer to noon.

00:18:08.000 So that'll be good.

00:18:10.000 But I want both of them on, but I really want Ghul on.

00:18:14.000 So just, I have to do producing live on the air because things change sometimes.

00:18:19.000 Okay, fantastic.

00:18:19.000 They were talking in my ear.

00:18:20.000 I was giving them answers.

00:18:21.000 Thank you, crew.

00:18:25.000 I mean, I tell you, it's just a Twilight Zone reality here.

00:18:29.000 Reality is out of control, ladies and gentlemen.

00:18:33.000 And then I've got all this other news here.

00:18:36.000 Jeff Duncan questions IRS gun usage.

00:18:40.000 They've got thousands of agents training with M16s.

00:18:44.000 And of course, you know what the targets are.

00:18:46.000 That isn't in the Politico article.

00:18:48.000 The targets are of five-year-old children.

00:18:51.000 Not to not shoot them.

00:18:52.000 They're called no hesitation. 0.99

00:18:56.000 So that you do learn to shoot the children. 0.98

00:19:01.000 So we've got that.

00:19:02.000 And then we finally got breaking what we've been covering for years on Democracy Now and in a Radar Online story.

00:19:10.000 Government keeps a list of 8 million names considered threats to be rounded up during a civil emergency.

00:19:19.000 Unbelievable.

00:19:20.000 Yeah, that's going to work real well.

00:19:21.000 You guys couldn't hold Baghdad?

00:19:24.000 But you're going to try to arrest 8 million Americans and take us to your little summer Dachau? 0.74

00:19:30.000 It isn't going to happen.

00:19:32.000 But if you want to start a civil war and make yourselves all targets, be my guest.

00:19:39.000 I mean, I've done everything I can to try to stop this total, criminal, insane takeover.

00:19:48.000 The General Staff tried to tell Hitler not to invade Russia and they still did it. 0.96

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00:24:15.000 Alright, so I want to get your take on the state of the world.

00:24:23.000 I'm going to take a lot of phone calls when I come back in the next segment.

00:24:27.000 For first-time callers, it's 800-259-9231.

00:24:32.000 800-259-9231.

00:24:36.000 And then we've got Colonel Tony Schaefer joining us with the inside scoop on the NSA, the funding of Al-Qaeda, all the big scandals.

00:24:46.000 He's got a lot to break down today when he joins us.

00:24:50.000 And then we've got General Hamid Ghul, the former head of Pakistani intelligence, ISI, who ran the CIA covert war in Afghanistan against the Russians. - He's going to be joining us to give us all the little geopolitical secrets.

00:25:09.000 Because, I mean, I've already researched all this myself.

00:25:12.000 I know Gould to be extremely accurate.

00:25:14.000 And to have made big announcements months before they were in the geopolitical arena publicly.

00:25:21.000 So, very powerful interview with Gould set for the Third hour today.

00:25:29.000 I guess that'll be 11 p.m.

00:25:32.000 Pakistan time. 0.56

00:25:34.000 Okay, some of the other, you know, big news I'm getting into and Schaefer's on with us.

00:25:40.000 NSA spying is about intimidating the media and the American citizens.

00:25:45.000 Blanket surveillance is about covering up government corruption and shilling free speech, not catching terrorists.

00:25:51.000 And I should probably have Watson add to the article because I worked on it with him.

00:25:55.000 It's an article by Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson.

00:25:58.000 This Investors Business Daily article and the congressman on Monday here on the show saying exactly that.

00:26:03.000 But it's now been confirmed that they will not target Radical Mosque even with warrantless wiretapping, but everyone else.

00:26:15.000 And that's because they don't want the Radical Moss being surveilled, because they're running them.

00:26:19.000 They're trying to get attacks going, because every time there's an attack, who loses their rights?

00:26:23.000 I mean, you cannot deny this.

00:26:26.000 And it's the fact that we'll cover this great truth, and we're the first to do it, that I'm demonized by the entire liberal fake, you know, liberal authoritarian media, all the fake neocons.

00:26:38.000 All of them are attacking us now, because it's all coming out, and we've got incredible credibility.

00:26:45.000 It's coming out the government gave a billion bucks to Al Qaeda.

00:26:48.000 Rand Paul's saying, why are we funding Al Qaeda in the Senate floor?

00:26:52.000 And he's the most popular Republican.

00:26:54.000 Because mainline Republicans are waking up.

00:26:58.000 And they know who hits the barbed wire first.

00:27:01.000 Max Keiser has an article out today that we posted on InfoWars.com where he talks about shock jocks and populist politicians awakening Britain.

00:27:11.000 And how the liberty movement's the hottest thing over there and how liberty candidates are winning in all the major elections.

00:27:17.000 I mean, I was there and the cops were all, we love you, we're awake!

00:27:21.000 I mean, it's like Ceausescu's Romania, ladies and gentlemen.

00:27:24.000 No one knew it was going to fall until the day it did.

00:27:28.000 And most of you, again, are not recognized like I am or some other libertarian public figure is.

00:27:34.000 We get overrun with supporters.

00:27:38.000 Now again, we're still a minority, maybe 30-40%, but 5% started the war with the Brits, or they started it, but we want it, our ancestors, and then set up a new country.

00:27:47.000 I'm not looking for a war.

00:27:50.000 I have selfish reasons for that, but also intellectually, militarily, historically, they want to start a physical war, because they've got a better chance of winning that.

00:28:01.000 than they do of winning a gradual, awakening, velvet revolution.

00:28:07.000 A cultural revolution, but not a Maoist one.

00:28:10.000 Basically the quintessential opposite, a libertarian, individually driven, but also collectively working together as individuals against the collective communist, who themselves are run by the collective crony capitalist.

00:28:25.000 And that's the great oxymoron that isn't an oxymoron.

00:28:27.000 It is the ultra old money that always finances command and control because that's how they centralize markets. 0.99

00:28:34.000 That's where the mega wealth comes from.

00:28:37.000 Then you don't have to compete.

00:28:38.000 You just gotta have cameras and black uniforms and citizen snitches and we know where all this spying goes. 1.00

00:28:45.000 Historically.

00:28:46.000 We know where it leads.

00:28:49.000 So this article is very important.

00:28:50.000 NSA spying is about intimidating the media and American citizens.

00:28:55.000 Blanket surveillance is about covering up government corruption and shilling free speech, not catching terrorists.

00:29:01.000 And then Paul Watson goes over all of the history and evidence of that.

00:29:07.000 I mean, they've had all this total surveillance.

00:29:09.000 Did it stop 9-11?

00:29:10.000 No.

00:29:11.000 Did it stop the Boston bombings?

00:29:13.000 Then you go find out, oh, actually people at the NSA knew about the attacks of 9-11 and tried to stop it and were ordered to stand down.

00:29:13.000 No.

00:29:22.000 And what did those people listening to the phone calls hear?

00:29:26.000 Like Seibel Edmonds and others?

00:29:30.000 They heard Al-Qaeda being commanded by criminal elements of who?

00:29:36.000 The CIA and private contractor corporations.

00:29:41.000 The government's so big, folks, we said the government did 9-11.

00:29:44.000 Criminal elements within the government that want to bring down freedom and want to have a centralized system, they run Al-Qaeda.

00:29:52.000 They did it.

00:29:53.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:29:57.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

00:30:01.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:16.000 For Christ's sake, Ben, don't you understand?

00:33:19.000 Americans love television!

00:33:21.000 They wean their kids on it!

00:33:23.000 Listen, they love game shows, they love wrestling, they love sports and violence!

00:33:29.000 So what do we do?

00:33:31.000 We give them what they want!

00:33:34.000 We're number one, Ben!

00:33:36.000 That's all that counts!

00:33:38.000 Believe me, I've been in the business 30 years!

00:33:41.000 Well, I haven't been in show business as long as you have, Killian.

00:33:44.000 But I'm a quick learner.

00:33:47.000 So I'm going to give the audience what I think they want.

00:33:50.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center, in the heart of the Resistance.

00:34:00.000 Think about that, ladies and gentlemen.

00:34:02.000 This is one of the main centers of resistance to the Global Crime Syndicate's organized takeover.

00:34:11.000 And they are trying to take us to a very bad place indeed.

00:34:14.000 The toll-free number to join us, ladies and gentlemen, is...

00:34:22.000 259-9231.

00:34:23.000 800-259-9231.

00:34:23.000 And it is the 13th day of June 2013.

00:34:24.000 800-259-9231.

00:34:29.000 And it is the 13th day of June 2013.

00:34:34.000 And I'm going to your phone calls here in just a moment.

00:34:38.000 But getting back to the public rollout.

00:34:42.000 Now, whether these leaks are real or not, they're going to try to spin it now as a public discussion to sell us on how everything we do being tracked is for our own safety.

00:34:55.000 Bye.

00:34:55.000 and And even if they can convince a majority of people to support this in a constitutional republic, it is still illegal.

00:35:05.000 Just like if you have 51% of people saying, you know, blacks shouldn't have a right to vote or eat in a restaurant, The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, common law, common sense states, no, they do have that right.

00:35:20.000 And it's the same story over and over again.

00:35:23.000 They're trying to sell us on this idea.

00:35:26.000 But I will remind you again, what is in investor business daily, that the NSA is not allowed to target Muslims. 0.73

00:35:34.000 And people say, oh, that's because Barack Obama's a secret Muslim.

00:35:37.000 No, he's not.

00:35:39.000 They don't want other parts of federal agencies stopping the provocateur groups that they're out there organizing to carry out events which they then use to demonize Muslims and go after the general public's rights and liberties.

00:36:00.000 It's a very simple equation.

00:36:01.000 It's full-spectrum dominance.

00:36:04.000 They go after the American people with the terrorist threat, and they go after the countries that they blame for the terror threat with what they've manufactured, and then the globalists get to take over everything at the same time.

00:36:19.000 It is elementary how they do this, and we have to get this basic understanding through our minds.

00:36:25.000 And it's not my view, it's not my opinion.

00:36:29.000 This whole thing is hiding in plain sight.

00:36:34.000 It is now all admitted.

00:36:36.000 And that is why we're being demonized.

00:36:38.000 That is why we're being attacked.

00:36:40.000 That is why they're going after us.

00:36:41.000 Because we're here going, the government's trying to take on conservatives, libertarians, gun owners, and saying veterans are the new terror threat.

00:36:47.000 The government's buying billions of rounds of ammo, 7,000 armored vehicles.

00:36:51.000 They're setting up checkpoints, they're getting riot control police ready everywhere.

00:36:55.000 They're saying that they're preparing for imminent collapse.

00:36:58.000 I don't know if that's really going to happen or they're using this as an excuse to put all this in place.

00:37:02.000 But regardless, it's a giant boondoggle to the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about.

00:37:08.000 He said it will take over and it's run by a technological elite.

00:37:14.000 That's a quote.

00:37:17.000 And then, here we are, he said that in 61, and here we are, it's all come true! 0.59

00:37:23.000 And that's why they're attacking us, because we're speaking common sense.

00:37:27.000 And yeah, then I go on a BBC News show, and they got two guys cutting me off, trying to shut me up, laughing at me, so I just blew up at them, and said, look, I'm not going to play this game anymore.

00:37:39.000 I want to do a special piece on this from Vice Magazine.

00:37:43.000 Vice actually does some pretty good stories sometimes.

00:37:46.000 But now that they're on mainstream television, they're getting a little bit more establishment.

00:37:51.000 And I want to do kind of like a professor piece on this to show the anatomy of a sophomoric trendy hit piece.

00:37:59.000 Of course, almost every commenter in this article, what I read this morning, like 90 plus percent of them are against it saying, what's wrong with you?

00:38:06.000 You're demonizing the crowd.

00:38:07.000 This is done to make dissent look bad.

00:38:10.000 They went and found that, you know, People out there kind of having a carnival time, maybe 5% of the thousands that came out to protest Bilderberg.

00:38:19.000 And then they say no one could tell us why they were there.

00:38:22.000 No one could tell us what Bilderberg was. 1.00

00:38:24.000 Everyone was basically idiots. 1.00

00:38:26.000 And they say it over and over and over again. 1.00

00:38:30.000 Lying to their audience.

00:38:33.000 And you know who was really there?

00:38:34.000 A famous, because it was in the news, I wish I'd have run into him, a famous 90 year old RAF fighter ace that shot down a bunch of German aircraft over London.

00:38:47.000 He was there.

00:38:49.000 There were two members of Parliament, a member of the European Union Parliament giving powerful speeches.

00:38:55.000 The crowd, basically about half of them looked like Irish and British and Scottish farmers.

00:39:03.000 There were a lot of Scots that, you know, came down.

00:39:09.000 There was a group of Scots that actually walked in because that's like a cultural thing to walk 400, 500 miles.

00:39:14.000 They walked in to London to be there.

00:39:17.000 Just an amazing group of people and they went around and found every person That was there to have a good time and acting goofy.

00:39:27.000 So what?

00:39:28.000 We should go protest and cover things and make it fun.

00:39:31.000 I mean, I don't judge people because they got tattoos on their faces or, you know, or they're, you know, offering, you know, people, you know, massages or whatever, but that was a small minority.

00:39:46.000 And they distort it and make a sick joke out of it.

00:39:48.000 And the good news is people Got angry at it.

00:39:51.000 But then, you know, they ask, well, what is Bilderberg?

00:39:54.000 Why does it matter?

00:39:55.000 And Alex claims they're putting cancer viruses in the vaccines.

00:39:58.000 Why would they want to do that?

00:39:59.000 And nothing he said was coherent.

00:40:01.000 Really?

00:40:02.000 We have a history of Western governments doing thousands of declassified lethal test programs, nerve gassing trips, putting syphilis in people's vaccines.

00:40:15.000 Just radiating foster children and I'm up there giving a speech about that and saying they're doing it now on a wide scale and holding up London Independent from that day saying 40% of Britons We'll have cancer within four years at the current rate, National Health Service. 1.00

00:40:33.000 But no discussion of, why is everybody getting cancer?

00:40:36.000 It's always, let's find a cure.

00:40:38.000 And then in the article they say, what does that mean?

00:40:40.000 We should find out why everybody's getting cancer, why the rate's going up, instead of finding a cure.

00:40:47.000 And the article says that makes no sense.

00:40:50.000 We want to find a cure.

00:40:55.000 It'd be like if a hundred people a night in Austin, Texas were getting shot.

00:40:59.000 Say, we need to find a way to cure gunshot wounds.

00:41:03.000 Instead of finding out who's shooting a hundred people a night.

00:41:08.000 I mean, if a thousand people a day in Chicago were being poisoned by cyanide, would you try to find a cure for cyanide poisoning?

00:41:16.000 And have everybody walk around with a pack of cyanide antidote?

00:41:20.000 Which, by the way, there isn't one.

00:41:23.000 No, you try to find out who's poisoning people.

00:41:25.000 And they literally sit there acting like they don't know what I'm talking about.

00:41:35.000 And I thought about it.

00:41:37.000 That's why I get mad at Piers Morgan.

00:41:39.000 That's why I got mad at the BBC.

00:41:41.000 When a bunch of condescending fake intellectuals are sitting there going, so you believe Bilderberg exists and you believe they have bad plans.

00:41:49.000 I'm like, look!

00:41:50.000 I'm done playing games.

00:41:52.000 Jesus Christ went in and overturned the money changers tables. 0.97

00:41:57.000 Paul Revere rode around saying, get your guns, get ready to kill people.

00:42:00.000 And we call him a hero. 0.92

00:42:01.000 I'm just saying, look!

00:42:02.000 I'm done with you! 0.99

00:42:04.000 You just came into this promo piece Saying that, oh, these people believe we're poisoning the water.

00:42:15.000 That Bilderberg guy, in the tape piece, and one in studio, right before I went on, I walked past him.

00:42:21.000 I interviewed their treasury secretary, you know, the ex-checker, the chancellor.

00:42:27.000 It's on Infowars.com.

00:42:30.000 I saw people on there going, oh, really?

00:42:31.000 You want to interview the Bilderberger?

00:42:32.000 Yeah, right.

00:42:33.000 People cannot believe that someone could stand up, that someone could resist, that someone could have success, and I'm nobody.

00:42:41.000 People cannot believe anything.

00:42:43.000 They can't believe we had Mike Judge on the show.

00:42:45.000 They couldn't believe we interviewed Charlie Sheen.

00:42:47.000 They couldn't believe we interviewed Ron Paul.

00:42:49.000 They can't believe we're going to have Hamid Gul on.

00:42:51.000 They can't believe we have whistleblowers because they live unexceptional lives in their basements.

00:42:57.000 Thinking everyone else is like them, and that humanity is basically done. 0.90

00:43:04.000 And that's why they don't believe there can be corrupt elites, even though those corrupt elites write books about what they're doing, because they think everyone is such an incredible, pathetic, jellyfish, cynical, wannabe trendy who are actually just scared little boys and girls sitting there criticizing the rest of us that want to build a better civilization and a better wannabe trendy who are actually just scared little boys and girls

00:43:31.000 I mean, I've had people over the years come to my house or my parents' house and see some of my oil paintings, which I don't even think are that good. 0.53

00:43:38.000 I mean, some of them are pretty good.

00:43:39.000 And they go, there's no way you painted that.

00:43:42.000 And I go, is that a figurative speech, like you're joking?

00:43:43.000 No, no, I don't believe you painted that.

00:43:46.000 You're like a redneck. 1.00

00:43:47.000 I mean, how did you paint?

00:43:48.000 You're from Texas.

00:43:48.000 You people can't even, you know, wipe your noses.

00:43:51.000 I mean, I just don't get, like, the yuppie thing where They're like all domesticated and they're scared of guns unless it's in the hands of the government and they don't believe anything can be created or nothing can be done and they just kind of walk around all week freaking out over everything and jealous of anyone who's successful.

00:44:08.000 I mean I just don't get it.

00:44:10.000 I want humanity to get off its knees and stand up.

00:44:13.000 I believe in humanity.

00:44:14.000 I think you're beautiful.

00:44:16.000 I think you're smart.

00:44:17.000 I think you have a destiny.

00:44:18.000 I know you do.

00:44:20.000 And I just do not understand How you bought into this idea that humanity's a bunch of crud.

00:44:27.000 Yes, we can do some horrible things.

00:44:28.000 True.

00:44:29.000 Alright, I'm done ranting.

00:44:30.000 I said I'd take phone calls.

00:44:31.000 We got so much news coming up.

00:44:33.000 I talked about this two days ago, but now it's finally getting news coverage, and I heard it On a local radio station this morning, they were like, why would the cops be running federal checkpoints all over the country, not just Alabama, where you pull up to one lane and they're there at a checkpoint and say, mind if we take a blood sample?

00:44:33.000 I mean, look at this.

00:44:57.000 Because they've had these things before in Texas.

00:44:59.000 I've driven into one where they use it to search your car.

00:45:02.000 And they see the scared person, they direct people over because the public's so scared.

00:45:07.000 I mean, if a cop said, take your dress off, most women would do it right there. 1.00

00:45:10.000 I mean, you know.

00:45:12.000 And they say, bend over, and they put their hands inside of you now in Texas.

00:45:15.000 I mean, we can show you the video, folks, and they say, bend over, and they take your pants off and ram their hand, you know.

00:45:21.000 I mean, this is how America works now.

00:45:23.000 So, they say, and they sit there with needles taking your blood now, and it's a federal program, and no one knows why they're doing it.

00:45:29.000 They're doing it to acclimate everyone.

00:45:32.000 It's already an executive order that they're going to take blood at highway checkpoints.

00:45:35.000 I covered that in my first film, 1997.

00:45:37.000 People are like, well, where is it then?

00:45:40.000 They haven't phased it in yet, because people aren't going along with it.

00:45:44.000 Just like when they start, I remember 15 years ago I saw the city council plan with the federal document.

00:45:50.000 Because it was on TV, on access, you know, they carry the city channel, I watched it.

00:45:56.000 And they said, we're here with this million dollar grant over the next three years to start big discounts and incentives for the newest, above the current emission standards on the car.

00:46:09.000 And they said this will be used to prepare and acclimate the public for when the new federal regulations come out.

00:46:15.000 And then I went to one of the events to cover it and they said, yes, we're here to condition the public.

00:46:19.000 And just like that sounds innocuous, that's why they have helicopter drills and army checkpoints and do all this, is to acclimate you.

00:46:26.000 They're going to pull you over, and they're going to take blood from everybody, and that's the stated plan.

00:46:31.000 But it's for your safety, of course.

00:46:35.000 Just like the government ships the narcotics in on record for your safety. 0.99

00:46:38.000 Stop being chumps! 0.98

00:46:40.000 We have a Bill of Rights and Constitution for a reason, because anytime you let a government get big, corrupt groups take it over and hell gets released. 0.96

00:46:52.000 Cyber Command said five years ago they're going to attack news sites in the US.

00:46:57.000 They're involved in PSYOPs.

00:46:58.000 This whole thing is aimed at America, folks. 0.68

00:47:02.000 The globalists have conquered America.

00:47:04.000 They're not in full control yet, but they've conquered the federal government.

00:47:07.000 They've got a million reasons why they're doing what they're doing, but they're carrying out Agenda 21 to bankrupt you and your family.

00:47:13.000 Richard in Idaho, you're on the air.

00:47:16.000 First-time caller, welcome.

00:47:21.000 Go ahead, Richard.

00:47:22.000 I'm not getting any audio from the network.

00:47:23.000 Go ahead, Richard.

00:47:25.000 Hey, uh, I've got a few points to make, and I gotta tell you, I'm a little... This is no prank call.

00:47:31.000 I've listened to other prank callers call, but this is not one of those.

00:47:35.000 I have a couple of points that I want to make, first of all... Well, number one, I'm gonna tell the... I'm gonna put you on hold.

00:47:39.000 I'm gonna put you on hold right now.

00:47:41.000 There's a phenomenon, and we've not started call screening, because I kind of like that wild card thing, where people can just call in unless I'm talking about a specific topic, but I think we're gonna install call screening for one reason.

00:47:56.000 People want to be call screened and they get on the show and they do a call screen thing with me.

00:48:03.000 They tell me what they want to talk about.

00:48:05.000 Sir, Richard, you are on the air.

00:48:09.000 Sir, I want to hear from you.

00:48:11.000 Go ahead.

00:48:11.000 Make your point.

00:48:13.000 So a few, uh, several weeks ago, you mentioned a name about a counterintelligence agent, uh, John Loftus.

00:48:20.000 I believe his name is John Christopher Loftus.

00:48:22.000 He comes from Ogden, Utah, where I, Where I actually come from.

00:48:27.000 I believe that he's been used to gather intel upon who I am due to the fact of who my daughter is.

00:48:33.000 Well, sir, again, you say it's not a prank call.

00:48:35.000 I can't just have people come on my show and talk about a public figure saying you have connections to him.

00:48:41.000 You believe he's gathered intel?

00:48:41.000 Send us a letter.

00:48:43.000 He's like a retired Justice Department lawyer that exposed that MI6 was involved in the London bombings on Fox News and the Associated Press and also wrote a book about IBM and the Holocaust.

00:48:56.000 Give me a moment, please.

00:48:59.000 No, I'm not going to give you a moment.

00:49:00.000 I appreciate your call.

00:49:01.000 You've got to send me proof.

00:49:04.000 You say you believe he's surveilling your daughter.

00:49:06.000 I mean, I'm not in the business here of getting sued, OK?

00:49:11.000 All right, there you go.

00:49:12.000 And now I'll be a government agent because I did that.

00:49:15.000 And listen, I apologize to you, caller, if you've got some proof.

00:49:19.000 But I mean, this is just wild.

00:49:22.000 Let's talk to Shane in Pennsylvania.

00:49:24.000 Shane, you're on the air.

00:49:27.000 Hey, Alex.

00:49:29.000 Yeah, I just wanted to make a point about what you were saying earlier about how they're trying to force this debate now between liberty and security and... When you give up liberty, you get tyranny.

00:49:43.000 You never get the security.

00:49:46.000 The insecurity is letting them do this.

00:49:49.000 Exactly.

00:49:50.000 And, you know, it's kind of an uphill battle because, you know, the general public has just been conditioned to accept this.

00:50:00.000 I mean, you turn on the Dark Knight and their heroes are using sonar and stuff like that to catch the bad guys.

00:50:08.000 Well, they're using the wireless system on the phone to broadcast and look through walls and pick up the thing, which is what the Kinect and the smart meter does.

00:50:17.000 Exactly.

00:50:18.000 Everything is conditioning.

00:50:20.000 Right.

00:50:21.000 And, you know, the villain in Skyfall is just You know, some hacker, computer guy.

00:50:29.000 It's just, it's all over the place.

00:50:31.000 And the government's outgunned and doesn't even know how to open their email.

00:50:35.000 The poor babies.

00:50:37.000 The poor babies.

00:50:40.000 Anything else you want to add?

00:50:41.000 You want to come back and add some more?

00:50:41.000 It's a great point, Shane.

00:50:44.000 I know, I'm good.

00:50:45.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:50:46.000 God bless you.

00:50:46.000 Great points.

00:50:48.000 Again, we don't screen calls, so we get the very best and the very worst.

00:50:51.000 But, you know, it's like when callers call in and say, my name's John Doe, and I'm, I, I, sometimes people will spoof and say they're someone else.

00:50:59.000 So, I don't like last names on air, and I don't like saying stuff about people that you can't prove first.

00:51:05.000 Okay?

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00:55:30.000 Okay, we got some good news I haven't gotten to yet, but I'll get to this after Schaefer leaves us.

00:55:36.000 Justices of the Supreme Court rule human genes Cannot be patented.

00:55:41.000 And that gives you some hope for sanity.

00:55:44.000 And I've scanned over part of the ruling.

00:55:46.000 I don't really see any loopholes in there.

00:55:50.000 I mean, obviously, they go and they get blood samples and stuff, they even patent your particular genes, but also the gene for cancer of a particular type, and then try to block you from testing it.

00:56:01.000 Monsanto has said you can't test those honeybees guts, you know, for our Roundup pesticide, because we have that patented.

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00:56:13.000 So we'll sue you if you try to test for our poison.

00:56:17.000 And courts have ruled for them! 0.99

00:56:20.000 That's asinine! 0.91

00:56:22.000 Like if they could patent cyanide, and you can't test for cyanide at the autopsy because we have that patented. 0.97

00:56:28.000 You're not selling it, so you should be able to test for it.

00:56:32.000 And it's just outrageous.

00:56:36.000 It is outrageous.

00:56:37.000 And this is some good news.

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00:56:43.000 Let's talk to John in New York.

00:56:45.000 First time caller.

00:56:45.000 Thanks for holding, John.

00:56:46.000 Good to talk to you.

00:56:47.000 How may I serve you today?

00:56:48.000 Alex, you're doing great work.

00:56:50.000 I enjoy listening to you.

00:56:52.000 I don't agree with everything you say, but then again, if I did, I wouldn't be thinking for myself.

00:56:57.000 But I do credit you with opening my eyes to a lot of issues.

00:57:01.000 Sure, thank you.

00:57:02.000 You know, there's been a lot of talk lately about this surveillance grid that's been created, and I really think that they've been moving not just through surveillance, but I think they've even stepped it up a little bit to interference, specifically with what you're doing.

00:57:17.000 I use an application on my iPhone to listen to your program over the internet when I'm driving in my car and whatnot.

00:57:26.000 And when I'm home listening to your program using this one particular application, if I'm listening to it on my Wi-Fi, it works just fine.

00:57:38.000 But as soon as I leave my house and go out into AT&T's coverage with their 4G, Using the same program, it gets scrambled and I lose my connection and I can't listen.

00:57:52.000 So I've tested this in a few ways where I listen to other radio stations or other radio programs.

00:57:58.000 I'll be listening to it on my Wi-Fi.

00:58:00.000 I'll drive out of range.

00:58:01.000 It will stay on.

00:58:02.000 It will reshuffle itself and buffer and go to either another server or it'll keep playing.

00:58:10.000 But whenever I try to listen to InfoWars radio using this particular program over the AT&T network, I'm unable to.

00:58:18.000 Well, you know, that could just be that we need to upgrade those free apps.

00:58:22.000 We need people to make free apps for us.

00:58:23.000 I mean, we have limited resources.

00:58:26.000 We're trying to develop some new apps right now.

00:58:29.000 Sure, Alex, seriously, because it works just fine when I'm within my own network, but as soon as I leave to go into AT&T's 4G network, it gets redirected to other servers.

00:58:41.000 No, what I'm saying is it may not be meshing with that system well, or who knows, they may be trying to block it.

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01:00:06.000 Big Brother.

01:00:13.000 Mainstream media.

01:00:15.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:17.000 You want answers?

01:00:19.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:21.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:25.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:29.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are now into hour number two.

01:00:47.000 Joining us in the next segment is Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer.

01:00:50.000 We'll be able to break down his take on the whole NSA situation as well as his new book.

01:00:54.000 And General Hamid Gul, the former head of the Mujahideen against the Russians, can really give us an inside look at what's happening with the globalist funding Al-Qaeda worldwide and what's happening currently in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

01:01:06.000 And Mohammed Karzai coming out a few months ago and saying the West is actually running Al Qaeda.

01:01:10.000 Of course, that's always been known, but not generally by the public.

01:01:15.000 Due to globalist propaganda, cannot even find their own state on a map.

01:01:19.000 In some cases, much less the planet.

01:01:22.000 They don't know what a globe is.

01:01:23.000 I'm not even being sarcastic.

01:01:24.000 IQs are dropping very quickly under the chemical warfare operations of the globalists. 0.98

01:01:29.000 Jason in Missouri, you're on the air.

01:01:32.000 Thanks for holding.

01:01:33.000 Welcome.

01:01:35.000 Oh, thank you, Alex.

01:01:37.000 First time caller.

01:01:39.000 I'm a victim of Katrina.

01:01:42.000 It took me at least a week for the Army to show up during that time.

01:01:45.000 I don't watch any reality TV because I think the Kardashians, who cares?

01:01:50.000 I thought the Kardashians were some alien creature from Star Trek.

01:01:55.000 No, they force feed you the culture they want you to think is the norm.

01:01:59.000 And people just grow up believing the TV loves them and it's going to help them.

01:02:04.000 Yeah, and the point I wanted to make, sir, and I didn't want to take a lot of your time, I'm really upset about this Fourth Amendment with Obama just walking all over it.

01:02:15.000 But I thought it was a conspiracy that they were spying on us without warrants.

01:02:18.000 I mean, they care about us.

01:02:21.000 I cannot believe this. 0.98

01:02:22.000 It's ridiculous. 0.95

01:02:24.000 I mean, he should be impeached, he should be arrested, and he should be prosecuted. 0.97

01:02:28.000 It's crazy.

01:02:29.000 But here's why he won't be, because this is a long-term program before Obama.

01:02:35.000 That is the military industrial complex basically swallowing the internet.

01:02:40.000 This NSA rollout and cyber security is the takeover of the internet, the ending of the free web, and is basically beyond what the communist Chinese have done. 0.99

01:02:51.000 Yeah, it's totally ridiculous.

01:02:54.000 I wanted to thank you again, and I hope I get to call again sometime.

01:02:59.000 God bless you, sir.

01:03:00.000 I appreciate your call.

01:03:01.000 But yes, they should all be prosecuted.

01:03:03.000 And Obama is pushing it.

01:03:05.000 And they're pushing a lot of web-type initiatives that really kill freedom on the Internet. 0.90

01:03:11.000 But I just had that reawakening.

01:03:14.000 That we've been talking about this so long that I tend to lay out the agenda and then not go back and explain it to new listeners.

01:03:21.000 The globalists are getting rid of the free internet as we know it.

01:03:25.000 They are forcing all networks over their systems to control content, not just to surveil it.

01:03:30.000 This has all been announced.

01:03:32.000 And there are domestic CIA spying operations and psyops against the public.

01:03:37.000 That's all admitted and fake news and on and on and on.

01:03:44.000 The globalists are multinational.

01:03:46.000 They're waging war against everybody.

01:03:48.000 Dee in Alabama, go ahead, you're on the air.

01:03:52.000 I had a few points I wanted to make.

01:03:55.000 One is, I think that anybody that subscribes to, like, you know, supports National Public Radio, any of the print media that did not make any mention at all, or have not made any mention at all, of Bilderberg, the people that have, you know, subscribed to them need to cancel their subscriptions right to the news media or to the network.

01:04:20.000 and tell them that they have totally lost credibility and you will not financially support an organization that is hiding and being complicit with these criminals, these international criminals.

01:04:34.000 So that's the one point I wanted to make.

01:04:39.000 Another point is that anybody that's in the military that is out here helping them with their chemtrailing and their anti-life agenda that has any inkling that they are a part of a compartmentalized process that is leading to the destruction of life. 0.69

01:04:58.000 I tell you what, I got Colonel Schaefer coming up, but if you want to hold, I'll come back to you because you're on fire.

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01:08:19.000 Well, so does he.

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01:08:25.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:33.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we're now into the second hour.

01:08:35.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

01:08:37.000 I'm your host Alex Jones.

01:08:38.000 The websites are InfoWars.com and we also have InfoWars Nightly News 7 o'clock every evening.

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01:08:46.000 We're going to go back to your calls towards the end of the hour for everybody that's holding and take some of those calls for Colonel Shaver because most of you are calling in on the whole Edward Snowden situation and what's happening with that.

01:08:58.000 But here's Investors Business Daily reporting on what Congressman Stockman of Texas said on Monday, on this broadcast, that Al Qaeda and Muslims and radical mosques are off limits of warrantless NSA spying, but the Tea Party and the Associated Press and the American people, we are the subject of it.

01:09:21.000 And what you're seeing is a total flip that I warned of 11 years ago of Homeland Security onto the American people.

01:09:28.000 Returning veterans, gun owners, conservatives.

01:09:30.000 There was a big Boston Globe article yesterday that we wrote about saying that they're training in Boston for the militia bombing the next marathon, basically.

01:09:39.000 With no proof of that.

01:09:42.000 Because the enemy is the pro-lifers.

01:09:44.000 The enemy is constitutionalists.

01:09:46.000 I mean, that's a fact.

01:09:48.000 And it's even when Democrats are out of power, the Republican leadership does not like constitutionalists.

01:09:54.000 Okay, it's that simple.

01:09:56.000 The checks and balances get in the way of the globalist corporate takeover and all these special interests.

01:10:02.000 Now, he's got a new book out.

01:10:03.000 We're going to talk about that at the bottom of the hour, and I can't wait to read it.

01:10:06.000 It's in a bohemian grove, of all things.

01:10:09.000 We're going to talk about it.

01:10:10.000 But Colonel Anthony Schaeffer is a Bronze Star Medal recipient and is a CIA-trained Senior Intelligence Operations Officer and Reserve Army Lieutenant Colonel with more than 22 years of experience in the intelligence community.

01:10:21.000 And I'm not going to go through his whole bio and university studies and degrees, but Could have killed bin Laden several times in order to stand down by the CIA, and then he exposed Abel Danger and Stratus Ivy, the programs he was in, and what was happening there.

01:10:37.000 He's got the new book out, The Last Line, which is a total meltdown scenario for the U.S.

01:10:44.000 worst case scenario plan, so people can actually think about this and talk about this.

01:10:49.000 What these guys do is they end up writing Fiction books like Ian Fleming so they can get stuff out there.

01:10:54.000 I mean, I'm sure he won't say that, but we'll see what Schaefer tells us.

01:10:57.000 I can't wait to read it.

01:10:58.000 The point is, we ought to carry it, the info or store, but it just now came out.

01:11:03.000 But the point I want to get to here with him first off...

01:11:06.000 uh... is that we know shabell edmonds came out it was an fbi translator with NSA communications saying look elements of the CIA and contractors were in command of al-qaeda on 9-11 and then after and they were running drugs, guns, everything.

01:11:20.000 Hamid Gul is coming on next hour, former head of Pakistani intelligence led the CIA war on record against the Russians.

01:11:27.000 He says the same thing.

01:11:28.000 Mohammed Karzai comes out and says look these bombings that are happening ...are being basically orchestrated by corporate interests that want to keep a war going in Afghanistan.

01:11:37.000 So we say it's the government.

01:11:38.000 It's not really.

01:11:39.000 It's elements that want no-bid contracts for a $15 million tarp that really costs $500.

01:11:45.000 It's people that want to keep the gravy train going, that want to have all these wars that are not in our interest.

01:11:52.000 Okay, and there's a lot of people in the government, like Colonel Schaefer, that have spoken out against it.

01:11:55.000 Now, I don't want to put words in your mouth.

01:11:57.000 I've thrown out a lot here, setting the table, but I want to get into, first off, since you were on, what you make of Karzai coming out and saying that.

01:12:07.000 What you make of the fact that the government has given a billion dollars to al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda affiliated groups that are leading the attack in Syria.

01:12:15.000 And in the aftermath of Libya that you accurately predicted when it first started. 0.98

01:12:19.000 And where this is going.

01:12:20.000 And now the narrative where even Rand Paul comes out two weeks ago and says in the Senate we shouldn't be funding al-Qaeda in Syria.

01:12:27.000 They can't call us conspiracy theorists anymore.

01:12:30.000 Where is that going?

01:12:31.000 How does it tie into Snowden because people I respect think that he may have been fed a line of bull.

01:12:38.000 Not that he's an operative of the Chinese or something but he's been set up by other groups.

01:12:43.000 And there's an internal agency fight going on.

01:12:46.000 So I've thrown a lot out, Colonel Schaefer, but you're the guy to talk to who's had all the access to this over the years and is up there in the middle of Fox News and the middle of the Army War College and the Pentagon.

01:12:57.000 Of all those things I threw out there, what do you make of it and where do you see this going?

01:13:03.000 Well, let's break it down little by little.

01:13:05.000 I agree with Rand Paul about funding the enemy, and Alex, we've talked about this before.

01:13:08.000 You know, there's a great book, well-researched by Doug Wiesing, called Funding the Enemy. 0.97

01:13:13.000 And he, you know, it's one of those things, he's no conspiracy theorist, he's a researcher, and he goes through in painful detail, talks about how we, by sometimes stupidity, sometimes kind of looking the other way, go about funding the very people who are out to kill us. 0.98

01:13:28.000 It's totally insane.

01:13:30.000 So, when you put that with everything else going on, and I really admire the way you put it there at the beginning of your introduction.

01:13:38.000 Look, there's a real move to really kind of make us look the other way.

01:13:43.000 One of the problems, going back to Able Danger, you mentioned that, was that we were prohibited from looking at the mosques. 1.00

01:13:49.000 And at Muslim groups because of certain pre-911 concerns.

01:13:55.000 And of course we knew then, Alex, they were using that system for command and control.

01:14:00.000 They do not regard religion with the same reverence we do.

01:14:03.000 They actually use it as an operational tool.

01:14:05.000 And I have a severe problem with DHS within our own intelligence community where now they're trying to basically take out any reference to radical Islamists or use anything relating to their religion It's something that we should be concerned about because clearly, I mean, there are people who are sworn to our destruction and somehow now the focus is on conservatives.

01:14:26.000 So, we as Americans have to be very cognizant of that and I agree with you on the assessment of DHS.

01:14:33.000 DHS is something that I would, if I were in charge, get rid of immediately.

01:14:37.000 We don't need it.

01:14:38.000 We had U.S. 0.93

01:14:39.000 Customs Service before.

01:14:40.000 We had the FBI.

01:14:41.000 We had the Immigration and National Service.

01:14:43.000 They all function pretty well.

01:14:45.000 Not perfectly, but pretty well without having a humongous bureaucracy known as the DHS on top of it.

01:14:50.000 So we've got to be very cognizant of that.

01:14:53.000 Then you mix in this illegal, essentially, amalgamation, vacuum cleaning, if you will, of information relating to U.S.

01:15:01.000 citizens.

01:15:03.000 Let me be clear for your audience here.

01:15:06.000 99.999% of all U.S.

01:15:08.000 citizens will never be, never see, never have any contact with a terrorist.

01:15:14.000 But yet, somehow now, it's been completely reversed.

01:15:18.000 And so, the fact that NSA is doing this, the fact that Stoughton brought it out, I think it's significant.

01:15:24.000 And let me say something operationally.

01:15:26.000 While I agree with Representative Sensenbrenner, I do believe he's sincere.

01:15:30.000 I do believe that he is saying that the Patriot Act was never designed to do this, yet it is.

01:15:36.000 Let me say something on the operational side.

01:15:38.000 Having been at the cutting edge as one of the pioneers of using data mining, The way they're going about it, Alex, is ensuring failure.

01:15:48.000 I don't believe for a minute Keith Alexander's comments in front of Congress yesterday that they have, quote-unquote, broken up dozens of terrorist attacks.

01:15:56.000 It's not possible.

01:15:58.000 What they've done, they're taking probably 3 billion, now think about that, 3 billion transactions a day.

01:16:04.000 Very complex transactions, a lot of data, and yet what they're looking for is maybe 10.

01:16:09.000 Maybe 10.

01:16:10.000 And so what they're doing by doing it this way, by doing this vacuum cleaning of these large amounts of data, they're ensuring that they will probably never see those tents that they actually need.

01:16:21.000 And so it's totally reverse to what we did, Enable Danger.

01:16:24.000 Our job, we knew, was to protect the fourth The first, fourth, and fifth amendments to make sure that we did not violate that.

01:16:31.000 And we went in with very precise guidelines of what we wanted to get.

01:16:35.000 So, in the essence, what we're looking at here is a government, as far as I can tell, has completely lost track of who the enemy is.

01:16:44.000 And they're overfunded, they have far more capability than the capacity that they have targets at this point, and the targets they're going after are not the ones which really threaten us.

01:16:55.000 Expanding on that though, I mean DHS day one started branding it to Tea Party, Constitutionalist, you name it, and now they have removed in the manual the word Al-Qaeda and things and put in there Constitutionalist, Tea Party.

01:17:10.000 It's absurdist that they've gotten away with this.

01:17:13.000 Where are the congressional hearings and what do you make of the two billion bullets and the seven thousand armored vehicles that I see driving around Austin and the new training manuals where they're saying we're going to fight the militia, we're going to fight conservatives.

01:17:29.000 Well, I guess if they try to turn it into Mao Zedong or something, I guess there will be a civil war.

01:17:34.000 I mean, are the crazy leftists really imagining they're going to have like some Spanish civil war and we're the fascist and they're going to lock us all up because you've got things like main core out now in the mainstream news with 8 million Americans listed, most of them libertarian and conservatives that have to be rounded most of them libertarian and conservatives that have to be rounded up during an I mean this is insane!

01:17:57.000 That's totally insane.

01:17:58.000 Again, I can't speak to the left's philosophy on this, Alex.

01:18:02.000 I have a few friends on the left, but I really don't know how they think.

01:18:06.000 The bottom line is this.

01:18:07.000 The issue you bring up is very timely and important.

01:18:12.000 Any civil unrest By necessity, by tradition, is basically dealt with by the local officials.

01:18:21.000 That is to say, local law enforcement first.

01:18:23.000 If it becomes beyond their control, you bring in the freakin' National Guard.

01:18:27.000 Now, I'm a former member of the Ohio Guard.

01:18:29.000 Uh, and, uh, we spent time training for both civil support regarding riots and civil support regarding natural disasters.

01:18:37.000 And so I'm appalled, and I don't believe it's constitutional for FEMA to be expanding to the level it is regarding first responder type actions.

01:18:45.000 Those really should be left with the state.

01:18:47.000 And obviously with DHS regarding civil control.

01:18:50.000 Again, I don't see how the... And they always said they weren't doing that and it was a conspiracy theory.

01:18:55.000 Now they're in the news with command and control offices and civil unrest and taking over government.

01:19:01.000 I mean, is that not completely unconstitutional?

01:19:04.000 It is!

01:19:05.000 And again, this goes back to the state level, you know, and Ken Cuccinelli is running for governor here in Virginia.

01:19:11.000 And I've spoken to Ken about this.

01:19:13.000 Ken is a very, you know, very much a fighter against intrusion of the federal government.

01:19:19.000 Because Virginia, like Texas, is a very strong state.

01:19:21.000 We have a very strong economy.

01:19:23.000 We are considered, more or less, although we're kind of going purple, I think we're still a conservative state.

01:19:28.000 And these states really do say, look, we can handle things on our own.

01:19:33.000 You know, you do have a National Guard.

01:19:34.000 The National Guard's mission under Title 32, the U.S.

01:19:38.000 Code Title 32, is to serve as the state's militia.

01:19:42.000 That is their job.

01:19:43.000 So what you may be seeing here, Alex, really is a setup where you may see the federal government basically kind of trying to usurp those very capabilities which were designed to do civil unrest issues or Yeah, federal dictatorship.

01:19:58.000 Colonel, I want to talk more about that and your book straight ahead.

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01:24:17.000 There's a new book out.

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01:24:21.000 Look, what you're getting at here, studying history, studying the Constitution, Tenth Amendment...

01:24:27.000 Caesar crossing the Rubicon, uh, in what was it, 40-something, uh, B.C.

01:24:33.000 All of this, it's basically the federal government getting on a war footing against the states and the people, and then their training manuals and all of it read like science fiction, or absurdist, you know, we're gonna fight the Tea Party, we're gonna fight Tea Party insurrections, the Army War College, you know, prepares for war in North Carolina, and simulations with the gun owners, and it, If they try to confiscate the guns or do something like that, it's an illegitimate move.

01:25:01.000 I don't want a civil war.

01:25:02.000 I'm not naive.

01:25:04.000 You're a combat veteran.

01:25:05.000 I know you're not naive.

01:25:06.000 Colonel Schaefer, I mean, is this not a war footing?

01:25:10.000 Homeland Security is getting on, baiting and switching, saying it was for Al-Qaeda, now saying it's for us.

01:25:15.000 And you were telling me off-air that you're in all these different government and other meetings and that people are pretty concerned.

01:25:22.000 And you were telling me that, I guess, is good news.

01:25:26.000 Say about my statement that there's a war footing here being prepared a stockpiling for war and and I mean is it legitimate? 0.79

01:25:33.000 Should we turn our guns in and worship Mao Zedong?

01:25:37.000 Well, I think what we need to be cognizant of is why, what is the justification for both the spending and focus?

01:25:45.000 I'm an intelligence officer and generally speaking, you know, I go with whatever the facts tell me.

01:25:50.000 You know, if the facts are the Boston bombers blow up people and they're trained or affiliated with Al-Qaeda, then I would suspect that that should be our focus. 0.75

01:26:00.000 I don't remember the last time that we've had a radical right conservative group Blow up anything, kill anybody, or even make noises like it intends to.

01:26:08.000 You know, you can, you know, and so to me, the idea that veterans, and by the way, there's a trend afoot to disarm veterans.

01:26:16.000 Certain veterans I know, personally, have been told to give up their guns if they want certain benefits.

01:26:21.000 So, you know, and I believe that's part of a larger scheme to disarm people who, um, are considered conservative or former military.

01:26:30.000 It's totally insane.

01:26:31.000 So the question then becomes, if it's not based on intelligence, let us say that the threat evaluations aren't there to justify the placement, expenditure, and focus of strategic resources, you know, national resources against a target, then why?

01:26:47.000 Why would they be doing this?

01:26:48.000 And this goes back to the IRS thing.

01:26:51.000 So I mean, you know, why on earth... I don't believe for a minute... I mean, you've been around a long time.

01:26:56.000 No low-level civil servant is ever going to take on their own initiative to target a specific group or... Well, they've been caught lying now.

01:27:04.000 It turns out they ordered it from the highest levels, just like... and they're persecuting the media.

01:27:09.000 They're a bunch of authoritarians.

01:27:10.000 I mean, if it looks like it, walks like it, quacks like it, this is what it is. 1.00

01:27:15.000 So what do we do?

01:27:17.000 Well, the thing to do is be vigilant.

01:27:20.000 Congress isn't the one funding all this.

01:27:21.000 This is one of those grand ironies I don't think people fully understand.

01:27:24.000 It's like the federal government, as part of the executive branch, can only function if it's given funding by the Congress.

01:27:31.000 Congress has the power of purse.

01:27:33.000 It was designed that way.

01:27:35.000 So what baffles me, and I have a lot of conservative friends up on the Hill, is how somehow all this money keeps getting given to DHS and other elements of the government.

01:27:45.000 And by the way, Congress is the one who writes the laws for IRS to function within how this all happened.

01:27:51.000 So really all roads, despite the bad actions of the executive branch, go back to Congress.

01:27:55.000 So again, I just got to ask people if they're really concerned to call their congressmen.

01:28:01.000 Buck the heck out of them, because they're the ones who actually signed it.

01:28:05.000 What do you make of these Republicans, but also Bill Maher, the authoritarian leftist, calling for Snowden to be arrested and he's a traitor, you know, executing, disappearing. 0.92

01:28:05.000 Sure. 0.92

01:28:16.000 That's been talked about. 0.97

01:28:17.000 I mean, what do you make of, is that Congress scared that they've been part of allowing this to happen, so they're covering their butt? 0.95

01:28:27.000 I think as part of it, I think that there needs to be some level of, I think, just reckoning regarding the whole silly situation. 0.88

01:28:34.000 I mean, the fact is, you know, certain people cross the aisle on this issue.

01:28:39.000 Certain people understand that what we're talking here, let me mention one guy, Jeremy Scahill.

01:28:45.000 Jeremy is on the left, but he and I have shared an interest and accountability And actually asking hard questions about why are we doing certain things?

01:28:54.000 And this is where, again, the expenditures don't make sense, the focus doesn't make sense, based on the fact that we have an external threat that we know about, that's well-identified, that's attacked us, that continues to try to attack us, and yet somehow we're now focusing inward.

01:29:08.000 And again, this does not make sense from the threat information I'm aware of, nor the recent history of who has done attacks within the Continental United States.

01:29:18.000 Folks, the book is The Last Line.

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01:29:32.000 We're going to talk about that on the other side, but first I'm going to ask him More about the strategy of funding Al Qaeda against Syria and where he thinks that's going to go, straight ahead on the other side.

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01:35:48.000 Going back to Colonel Schaefer, I want to finish that one point and get into your book here.

01:35:51.000 What is it doing in the Pentagon?

01:35:54.000 What is it doing with all your high-level sources in national security, because I know you're in there like nobody else we talked to, to have it so cut and dry now that they're putting jihadis and al-Qaeda in Syria to commit war crimes, and to have Clinton pushing Obama to do even more, and then to know heat-seeking missiles have been given to al-Qaeda.

01:36:13.000 What are they going to do when al-Qaeda blows up airliners with this?

01:36:16.000 Take more of my liberties?

01:36:18.000 I mean, are people going to go to jail?

01:36:19.000 Because you told me off-air, I want you to say it in your own words, that people are really waking up in government right now.

01:36:24.000 What can you tell us about that?

01:36:26.000 Well, first off, there's a realization, Alex, and you can probably figure it, all of our options for Syria are bad.

01:36:32.000 I mean, I don't want to get into details or get into trouble, but there's people been fired over telling the truth to the White House, saying, look, these are the options we have.

01:36:43.000 And they're all bad.

01:36:44.000 And by the way, getting involved directly is just going to make things worse, you know.

01:36:48.000 So the whole idea of arming these folks, and let's be honest here, there's clear evidence in my judgment that the Libya consulate that was attacked on the 9-11 anniversary was very much involved in moving, you know, obtaining surface-air missiles.

01:37:01.000 Other arms from the Libyans and transferring it via the Turks to the rebels in Syria.

01:37:06.000 I just don't think it's in our interest to be doing that sort of thing based on the fact, as you mentioned, Alex, that chances are pretty good this is all going to come back and bite us someday, as we've seen other involvement we've had other places.

01:37:16.000 So I think a lot of people on the inside who really think things through understand the folly of potential foreign involvement.

01:37:24.000 It's not to say we shouldn't do something to help.

01:37:25.000 I think there's always things we can do to help.

01:37:27.000 It's just we should not be the ones who put food Yeah, but I mean, you say help, I mean, if Assad is kicked out...

01:37:37.000 Then the vacuum is jihadis.

01:37:39.000 That's like 100 times worse.

01:37:41.000 Hear me out of this, Alex.

01:37:43.000 My think tank has actually said we do not want to see the central Syrian government destroyed because the inevitable result of such destruction would be a failed state like we see in Libya. 0.95

01:37:53.000 And again, as you point out, they would then have the jihadis at base of operation.

01:37:57.000 No, no, we agree.

01:37:58.000 It's just that we have, you know, the Assad issue is something we have to deal with realistically.

01:38:02.000 But no, we cannot afford to allow the central Syrian government, the thing which keeps that country together to fall because it will become a jihadi safe haven. 1.00

01:38:11.000 And as bad as it is in Libya, I believe the consequences of Syria falling will be far worse. 0.53

01:38:16.000 Well, look at the new video out of the president of Egypt in a meeting. - I mean, With the top ministers talking about how they're going to attack America and Israel.

01:38:25.000 I mean, come on.

01:38:27.000 The military industrial complex wants to sell weapons and they're putting the next phase of crazies in so we can have wars with everybody.

01:38:35.000 And I can pay for it and you can pay for it.

01:38:38.000 And then the country goes bankrupt.

01:38:40.000 But why do the military industrial complex care?

01:38:42.000 They'll just sell weapons to somebody else.

01:38:46.000 Well, I work with the Pentagon Budget Group that looks at spending, and Alex, let me tell you something.

01:38:51.000 Larry Korb and I were in a panel on Capitol Hill earlier this week, I'm sorry, late last week, and it was packed with staff who actually did want to take on a serious look at how we can cut the defense budget because, as you point out, I think there's a propensity to jump in and do things without regard to what we're trying to achieve, what's going to cost us, and how much will any military action actually benefit the American citizen.

01:39:13.000 So I think this is something we ought to be concerned about, is that we need to step back from the over-reliance and over-use of military force to achieve often dubious national security objectives which cannot be linked to a larger long-term global strategy.

01:39:29.000 Wow, we've only got about six minutes left with Colonel Schaefer.

01:39:31.000 Let's get into the last line.

01:39:33.000 Tell us as much as you can.

01:39:34.000 You were telling me that, I mean, obviously there's a lot of stuff you can't get into in a non-fiction book because of national security, but you were telling me off-air that this is pretty much a... Well, what can you tell us about this?

01:39:48.000 Well, it's a worst-case scenario.

01:39:50.000 The last line focuses on the southwest border.

01:39:53.000 And Bill Keith, my writing partner, is a great researcher.

01:39:56.000 He's brilliant.

01:39:57.000 And so what we did, and I was very reluctant to do the book, by the way.

01:40:01.000 My publisher comes to me and says, hey, we want you to do Fiction is like, you know, and Alex, you know this, the book business ain't all that good.

01:40:07.000 I mean, you don't make a lot of money off of it, but you put a lot of time into it.

01:40:11.000 So, um, I reluctantly accepted the challenge.

01:40:13.000 They gave me kind of carte blanche of what I wanted to do, and I said, I want to do the Southwest border.

01:40:17.000 And so what we did is we actually took and did research on all the bad guys out there, basically try to figure out a baseline of who is really out there, who are truly, you know, evil, what's going on, and we took the stuff going on and then combined it, if you will, Into a compelling narrative where we basically say, what if?

01:40:36.000 What if this happens?

01:40:37.000 What if this happens?

01:40:38.000 To basically show that the border security, which everybody seems to be not worrying about right now, is something we should definitely be worried about.

01:40:46.000 And on top of that then, we took me, basically the way I was 20 years ago, Chris Teller, no surprise, the main character of the book is based partially on me.

01:40:54.000 And we took, since the DOD, as you know Alex, doesn't like me talking about actual things I did.

01:40:59.000 We took me to where I was about 20 years ago and basically have taken my bad habits and put them into the 21st century into this very interesting time of talent.

01:41:10.000 And then we throw a few other twists in.

01:41:14.000 I will leave it to your audience to judge for themselves if we were able to accomplish a frighteningly real scenario.

01:41:21.000 My friend Ralph Peters in his blurb board actually calls it authentically, chillingly authentic.

01:41:27.000 So I'd like to believe we've achieved that.

01:41:29.000 And then when you read it, We put it, we want to make the reader know what it feels like to kind of be in the main character's shoes.

01:41:37.000 We want them to kind of explain.

01:41:39.000 Well you've sold me, you've sold me on it.

01:41:42.000 Give us some of the basic plot because I mean I know obviously you're getting into who real threats are and I haven't read the book yet but let me just guess.

01:41:49.000 Here's the problem, if the West really does attack Iran, And if Iran is in danger of actually collapsing, the mullahs, like Hitler and their bunker, are going to pull the trigger, and they're going to trigger real terror sleeper cells that we know are all over Western Europe, all over the U.S. 0.93

01:42:05.000 This country is totally infiltrated.

01:42:07.000 The chi-coms might jump on board. 1.00

01:42:10.000 God only knows.

01:42:10.000 Now let me guess, is that what's in the book?

01:42:13.000 Part of it is, absolutely.

01:42:14.000 We have Hezbollah doing bad things. 1.00

01:42:15.000 They basically find ways.

01:42:17.000 There's a reason they pretend to come do things here.

01:42:20.000 They lie to the drug cartel.

01:42:21.000 They co-opted the drug cartel.

01:42:23.000 And then they start expanding out what they're doing in the United States.

01:42:25.000 And let me add another thing.

01:42:26.000 There's riots in L.A.

01:42:27.000 Imagine that!

01:42:28.000 Or we have other elements we just talked about earlier involved, too.

01:42:31.000 So it's a potpourri of bad things happening, if you will.

01:42:36.000 And again, we tell it in such a way to make people wake up.

01:42:39.000 What could 100 special forces trained troops do to America in one day?

01:42:39.000 Let me bring this up.

01:42:47.000 I mean, I know because I've studied it.

01:42:48.000 Oh my goodness.

01:42:49.000 For people that don't know, I mean, you could go up the tops of buildings.

01:42:52.000 I don't want to get into what you can do dumping into the air conditioning systems, what you can do with fire.

01:42:57.000 I mean, I personally, I would never do this, but just studying history, I mean, I could, I mean, it's unbelievable what sleeper cells could do.

01:43:06.000 Well, yeah, we talk about asymmetric warfare, which, you know, you've talked about before, and absolutely.

01:43:09.000 So I don't want to give away the plots for everybody right now, but let me tell you, what you talk about is in there.

01:43:15.000 We actually have, again, a very realistic, very well-researched plot that is based on real fact.

01:43:21.000 So we've taken things that have been in the media, we've expanded upon it, we've said, okay, if they do this, then what if they do, you know, if they do X, then what if they do Y and Z, where would that all go?

01:43:30.000 And it ends up with a huge, you know, set of Of catastrophes within the United States, which I think, again, we do very realistically and in such a way that I think people are going to say, oh my God, that could actually happen.

01:43:42.000 Well, I'll tell you, I haven't read your book yet, but what keeps me awake at night is these criminal megacorporations who would stand to gain from an authoritarian America who've already set up this police state grid, who would then finance terrorist groups with several layers of separation to have actual radical stage stuff as a pretext to then bring in a soft martial law from which we never emerge.

01:44:09.000 And I actually see that as the real scenario Of basically a false flag, but a more complex false flag with more buffers.

01:44:19.000 Because when I look at the constellation of Homeland Security setups, the pre-programming, the movies, I actually see what you are talking about as a real scenario that criminal globalist elements actually allow to happen bare minimum to radically transform the United States.

01:44:36.000 I mean, I'm sure you read RAND Corporation stuff.

01:44:38.000 I mean, it's thinly veiled in there.

01:44:40.000 In closing, what's your take on that?

01:44:43.000 Well, I think there are clearly, and again, I think you'll appreciate the book, because we actually do work in a conspiracy, as you're alluding to.

01:44:50.000 We talk about the fact that there may be elements within our own government, and not our government.

01:44:55.000 And you mentioned this earlier, it's not the government.

01:44:57.000 There's elements within the government.

01:44:58.000 There's people with agendas who will use the government for their own proximal reasons.

01:45:03.000 And so we do talk about that.

01:45:05.000 I think it is a realistic thing.

01:45:06.000 I think it happens every day.

01:45:08.000 Lobbying is a form of that, only done officially.

01:45:10.000 I think there's other ways people manipulate the government, use the government for their own purposes.

01:45:14.000 And I'm with you.

01:45:16.000 I think people don't fully understand how the government can be co-opted to do things against its own people's interests if certain incentives are provided to those inside the government.

01:45:25.000 Well, the book just came out last week.

01:45:27.000 I haven't read it yet, but you told me Bohemian Grove's in it.

01:45:30.000 So then I kind of connected dots off the storyline, because there's really only a few real scenarios.

01:45:35.000 So I can't wait to read it, because I know a lot of it's actually stuff that wouldn't get out there if it wasn't fiction.

01:45:40.000 But in closing, give us a hint.

01:45:43.000 I mean, don't give away too much, because I'm going to read it about the last line with Colonel Anthony Schaefer and William H. Keith.

01:45:50.000 But Bohemian Grove, are they the bad guys?

01:45:52.000 Or is something hatched in there?

01:45:54.000 Wow.

01:45:55.000 Something hatched in there.

01:45:56.000 Yeah, again, I've seen you when you did the show on the Bohemian Grove.

01:46:02.000 I don't want to say it didn't influence our thinking, because it did.

01:46:04.000 But just be aware, as you just point out, there's certain elements of the government who may work against our own people's interests, and it's tied into the Bohemian Grove.

01:46:12.000 I'll leave it at that for you to... Unbelievable.

01:46:14.000 I can't wait to have you on after I've read it.

01:46:17.000 Colonel Schaefer, thank you so much for joining us.

01:46:21.000 All right, there he goes, folks.

01:46:22.000 Wow.

01:46:23.000 Again, we set him up for the show like two weeks ago because I had to be out of town, and he was coming on when the book came out, and then I was quizzing him about what's in the book, and it all just clicked that he's basically telling you what they might do in this book.

01:46:40.000 Pretty amazing, pretty amazing.

01:46:42.000 That guy tried to kill Bin Laden twice.

01:46:44.000 They had him in the sights, were told not to.

01:46:46.000 That's on record, and he can confirm what Sabel Edmonds brought out.

01:46:50.000 I can tell you, I've got Pentagon sources that are good people, other than Schaefer, who's also good.

01:46:56.000 They know what's going on.

01:46:57.000 They don't like what's happening, and they really don't want to see America fall into authoritarianism and become incredibly poor and pathetic and then blamed for the New World Order, because that's the plan. 0.99

01:46:57.000 They're not stupid. 0.99

01:47:09.000 Uh, and it is very exciting to see this awakening happening. 0.95

01:47:14.000 Uh, you know, he said on air, there's a big awakening, but he said, I want to tell you, I'm in a lot of big meetings.

01:47:18.000 Uh, well, I'm not gonna even say what he told me off air.

01:47:20.000 Cause he didn't say it was off record, but I've gotten in trouble with him particularly before on Benghazi when he said stuff to me off air, but didn't say it was off record.

01:47:30.000 And then I kind of set it on air and then.

01:47:32.000 He got him in some trouble.

01:47:36.000 So I'll just leave it at that.

01:47:37.000 You start talking to these people, they'll tell you stuff and won't even say it's off record.

01:47:37.000 And that's the problem.

01:47:41.000 And then later they're like, hey, what are you doing saying that?

01:47:46.000 That's why so many times I'm almost stuttering and gibbering here on air, because I'm trying to, like, remember, okay, what can I talk about?

01:47:53.000 What can I talk about?

01:47:55.000 What can I say?

01:47:56.000 Or somebody tells me something and says I can say it on record, but then I think, well, wait, that shouldn't be on record, because that's going to get him in trouble.

01:48:03.000 Like Dave Mustaine.

01:48:04.000 He said all that stuff in a video interview about Obama and, you know, staging the, um, You know, shootings and stuff and a history of it.

01:48:14.000 And, you know, he was here visiting me because we're good friends.

01:48:18.000 My wife's friends with his wife. 0.74

01:48:19.000 And then he left.

01:48:20.000 And then I just didn't even tell him.

01:48:22.000 I just cut it out.

01:48:24.000 And people are like, well, that's censoring.

01:48:25.000 Well, I knew it would become a firestorm.

01:48:28.000 And I didn't want to hurt Dave when I did the interview.

01:48:31.000 So it is, it's true.

01:48:32.000 I started censoring myself because that wasn't critical to get that out.

01:48:36.000 Sure, I got a bunch of visitors off of it if I were to put it out, but I didn't do it just for that.

01:48:41.000 And then he went to a concert, I think in like...

01:48:45.000 Somewhere in Asia, I forget where it was.

01:48:48.000 What's the big island nation?

01:48:50.000 Singapore.

01:48:51.000 And then he talked about it and then it was, you know, they tried to destroy him with it.

01:48:55.000 And I just don't want to see my friends destroyed on my show.

01:48:58.000 I've learned that lesson with Charlie Sheen, let me tell you.

01:49:02.000 I mean, I've got videos with Charlie and just all sorts of stuff.

01:49:06.000 The media would just have a national field day with it.

01:49:09.000 Guess what I did?

01:49:10.000 I said I got videos.

01:49:12.000 I actually came across them last week, and guess what happened?

01:49:15.000 I mean, there was none of it bad stuff.

01:49:16.000 It was just, you know, it would be sensational.

01:49:18.000 Deleted!

01:49:19.000 Deleted!

01:49:20.000 It's just gone!

01:49:20.000 And what amazes me is that everybody's like, wow, why would you do that?

01:49:27.000 That's, you know, interesting stuff with Charlie Sheen.

01:49:30.000 Because that's not what I'm trying to do to people.

01:49:35.000 And I think that's the difference between people that want to be honorable and people that are dishonorable is that they could care less.

01:49:42.000 And I'm always amazed that people that I let into my confidence, not of anything bad I'm doing, but things that's in confidence, they like use that and then distort that.

01:49:52.000 And it's just the ultimate in scumminess is the point that I'm trying to get at here.

01:50:01.000 And so, I don't even know why I'm going off into that.

01:50:03.000 It's just that spending so much of my brain power trying to not burn people is one of the most frustrating things in my life.

01:50:12.000 This is just countless examples of it.

01:50:15.000 And I guess being a news editor, wearing that hat, as well as a journalist, as well as a rabble-rouser, as well as a patriot, it's a lot of hats to wear.

01:50:22.000 As well as businessman, researcher, ad executive, all of it.

01:50:26.000 That's why I get so scatterbrained on air, is because there's a lot going on.

01:50:31.000 Next segment, Dee, John, Walter, Jamie, Fred, we'll get to all of you in this segment and the next.

01:50:36.000 And then we've got General Hamid Ghul joining us to really go deep into who runs Al Qaeda.

01:50:42.000 Uh, and more.

01:50:43.000 So that's all coming up straight ahead.

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01:54:24.000 Don't want no shackles on me.

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01:54:30.000 Don't want no shackles.

01:54:32.000 He's a patriot.

01:54:33.000 He hates the new world order and loves his family.

01:54:36.000 You're a new listener out there and this show sounds shocking.

01:54:39.000 You're just not looking into what we're saying.

01:54:42.000 I mean, I may come off like a hole in a china cabinet sometimes, but it's because I'm upset.

01:54:49.000 Again, I went on that BBC interview last Sunday, and I mean, they're making jokes about fluoride in the water, and I'm like, hey man, cancer rates exploding aren't funny!

01:55:04.000 You wanna know why I blew up?

01:55:05.000 They were making fun of me in a promo video coming in, and it's not that I care about being made fun of, I care about all the people they're killing!

01:55:11.000 It's not funny!

01:55:14.000 I mean, I take that personal, that they're hurting all these innocent people, and people are like, oh, well thank you for Caring, Alex!

01:55:21.000 Caring!

01:55:22.000 I mean, they're killing us on purpose!

01:55:24.000 The White House science czar writes books about it!

01:55:26.000 Ecoscience bragging!

01:55:30.000 Where are the grand juries?

01:55:31.000 Where are the indictments?

01:55:32.000 But it's so over the top!

01:55:34.000 Like Vice Magazine writes this big comedy piece going, fluoride, fluoride, all he talks about is fluoride!

01:55:39.000 And he won't explain why it's bad!

01:55:41.000 Harvard studies?

01:55:43.000 Brain tumors?

01:55:44.000 Cancer?

01:55:45.000 Pancreatic cancer?

01:55:46.000 Liver cancer?

01:55:48.000 Bone cancer?

01:55:49.000 20 point IQ reductions?

01:55:51.000 It ain't funny!

01:55:53.000 But you say it's funny, and I physically get angry and have hateful thoughts.

01:55:59.000 I just, you know, I don't think that's funny.

01:56:02.000 If I saw somebody at a McDonald's putting poison in somebody's drink, I'd probably break their nose.

01:56:08.000 And people are like, oh, that's... I just don't get it.

01:56:11.000 I don't get laying here while we're robbed and assaulted and putting up with all this, and I'm mad.

01:56:17.000 I'm not in a trance.

01:56:19.000 And I realize more and more that is important.

01:56:21.000 For all my failures, folks, getting angry, getting people out of their normalcy bias is the secret.

01:56:26.000 And we've got to do it.

01:56:27.000 Dee in Alabama, thanks for holding.

01:56:29.000 I wanted to go back to you and then we'll get to Fred and Jamie and Walter and John.

01:56:33.000 We'll get to all of you.

01:56:33.000 But go ahead, Dee, you're on the air.

01:56:35.000 Yeah, Alex, what I was saying was that anybody that's in the military that has any inkling that they are participating in the geoengineering, the chemtrailing, like you had that young lady that was on there that was in the military for nine years in the Air Force from Tinker Air Force Base.

01:56:55.000 If you have any thought that what you're doing is killing life here, you need to go and retire.

01:57:01.000 It's not worth the money. 0.97

01:57:02.000 You're killing your mother, your father, your kids. 0.97

01:57:05.000 Yeah, for those that don't know, tons a week of barium salts, aluminum dioxide, and radioactive isotopes were delivered to be added to the jet fuel to then be aerosolized and sprayed out. 0.95

01:57:17.000 I mean, tons, tons a week.

01:57:20.000 Go ahead.

01:57:21.000 Right.

01:57:21.000 So what I'm saying is, when crimes against life are brought in, ultimately, you're not going to be able to hide behind the cover and say, I was just a soldier doing my job.

01:57:35.000 That's what the Nazis claimed.

01:57:37.000 It's not going to fly.

01:57:38.000 But if you get out now and when indictments are brought in, you say, yeah, I finally figured it out and I knew what was going on and I decided the best thing for me to do was just to leave.

01:57:53.000 I agree.

01:58:04.000 I think everybody should just start whistleblowing everywhere.

01:58:07.000 Whether it's anonymous, non-anonymous, there's plenty of ways to mail envelopes, there's plenty of ways to get stuff, you know, go on YouTube, whatever.

01:58:15.000 You know crimes are being committed.

01:58:18.000 Everybody just starts standing up, not just government, but if everybody starts blowing the whistle.

01:58:23.000 If a citizen sees corruption, that doesn't blow the whistle, it's on them.

01:58:26.000 We've all gotta stand up against evil everywhere, and it's a process we will turn the tide.

01:58:32.000 If not, it's gonna totally take over.

01:58:34.000 Well said, uh, D. Say something, okay?

01:58:37.000 You see something, like they want you to spy on your neighbor?

01:58:40.000 When you see them doing it, then say something.

01:58:43.000 Well said.

01:58:44.000 I couldn't say it as good.

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02:00:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCM Radio Network.

02:00:06.000 Big Brother.

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02:00:15.000 Government cover-ups.

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02:00:19.000 Well, so does he.

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02:00:32.000 Coming up in the next segment, Lieutenant General Hamid Gul, head of the Pakistani ISI and their military during the Mujahideen War with the Russians is going to be joining us to give us all the inside secrets on how the Globalists run Al Qaeda.

02:00:48.000 But right now, Walter in Michigan, thanks for holding.

02:00:51.000 You're on the air, sir.

02:00:53.000 Hello, Mr. Jones.

02:00:54.000 It's a pleasure to speak to you, sir.

02:00:56.000 Pleasure to talk to you, my friend.

02:00:58.000 Hey, I'm going to take this in a little bit different direction.

02:01:03.000 I don't go to many movies, because in my opinion, most of them are junk, and TV tends to be even worse, for the most part.

02:01:13.000 But I must commend you on your critique of oblivion.

02:01:17.000 For those of us who are awake, absolutely right on.

02:01:21.000 It's all about compartmentalization.

02:01:23.000 It's all about becoming human.

02:01:25.000 You know, even if you're just a program machine, it's amazing.

02:01:28.000 It was great.

02:01:29.000 I actually walked out of there floating on a cloud of hope, you know, after watching it.

02:01:36.000 And I was at a show earlier in the month, and like I said, I don't go to too many, but there was an old trailer from a movie, I don't know if you heard of it, called Django.

02:01:52.000 And when I saw this trailer, it absolutely made me physically ill.

02:01:56.000 Well, it's meant to create racial division, and I've studied history.

02:01:58.000 Oh, exactly!

02:01:59.000 I actually watched it to critique it, and it was so disgusting I couldn't even critique it. 0.97

02:02:04.000 Number one, it's not historically accurate, and it's torture porn, and it's race war porn, and it's the globalists are desperate to play us off against each other. 0.90

02:02:14.000 Right, and all it was meant to be was psychological warfare designed to create civil unrest.

02:02:21.000 And it was nothing but that.

02:02:23.000 And I would not suggest to anybody to go see that.

02:02:29.000 Just, you know what, Alex, if there was any African Americans in the theater at the time, and there wasn't, I noticed why the trailer was playing, I would have got up and left.

02:02:40.000 That's all a shame.

02:02:43.000 No, I tell you, it's all done.

02:02:45.000 Why don't they do a movie about the U.N.

02:02:46.000 kidnapping little kids and torturing them?

02:02:48.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:02:50.000 They want to go back 170 years and then misrepresent everything and then project it out. 0.99

02:02:57.000 But why don't they make a movie about them killing 52% of blacks before they're born? 0.99

02:03:01.000 Oh, no, no, no. 0.99

02:03:02.000 Let's just get everybody fighting with each other now and then attach an agenda, a big government, to prove... I mean, here's an article right here.

02:03:10.000 More whites now dying, Bangor Daily News, than births. 0.99

02:03:15.000 And I saw people in the comments on another article about this going, good, whites are the evil. 1.00

02:03:20.000 These are white people. 1.00

02:03:21.000 We all need to intermarry to get rid of the evil whites. 1.00

02:03:24.000 It's just evil people. 0.99

02:03:25.000 I mean, you have African tribes that kill each other because one lives on one side of the river and the other doesn't, or one worships this god and the other worships that god. 1.00

02:03:33.000 It's all bull.

02:03:34.000 The globalists just use something to divert and distract people.

02:03:39.000 And it is a religion. 1.00

02:03:41.000 Whites hating themselves is a religion and then doing whatever government says as the referee to prove that they think they're scum. 1.00

02:03:49.000 Good points, Walter. 1.00

02:03:50.000 Jamie in Michigan.

02:03:51.000 Another call from Michigan.

02:03:52.000 You're on the air.

02:03:54.000 Oh, hey Alex.

02:03:55.000 It's good to finally get a hold of you.

02:03:57.000 You've got about a minute, brother.

02:03:59.000 Okay, well I had a couple quick points I wanted to make.

02:04:01.000 One is just about civil disobedience.

02:04:05.000 I had to report for jury selection today.

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02:04:12.000 It's like a pawn entry.

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02:04:19.000 And I'm like, no.

02:04:22.000 You ordered me here, you'll hold me, you know?

02:04:24.000 I was like, you ordered me here, and if you don't do it, you'll be held in contempt to leave.

02:04:28.000 And I'm like, no, I'm not leaving.

02:04:30.000 You can't order me here and then have to force me to waive my Fourth Amendment. 0.89

02:04:35.000 That's ridiculous.

02:04:37.000 And so then that, you know, cop walks up to me, and he's just, you know, got his hands hitched on his belt, just walking up there bolstering to me, and they just, you know, we just kept going back and forth, and finally I just walked out.

02:04:48.000 And it's just like, You know, they started trying to tell me you have to comply with this plaque on your building, and I'm like, well, don't you have to comply with this?

02:04:56.000 Yeah, the point is, America never had this before.

02:04:58.000 Why do we have it now?

02:05:00.000 And now, they're starting, well, absolutely.

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02:08:18.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.

02:08:26.000 We're now into the third hour of World Wide Broadcast.

02:08:29.000 I am your host, Alex Jones.

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02:08:48.000 Every time he comes on, maybe once or twice a year, he's very gracious to do that.

02:08:52.000 It's 11 o'clock at night over there in Pakistan.

02:08:55.000 I get calls from CNN, Fox News, you name it, saying, how do you get General Hamid Gul on?

02:09:03.000 And I guess because they're aware of the show and know that we won't distort what he's saying and it's live.

02:09:08.000 They always want, of course, to tape interviews with me and stuff and I don't do it because I've seen them distort it.

02:09:13.000 So it is a big exclusive to get General Hamid Gul on the broadcast.

02:09:19.000 He's a Lieutenant General, Hamid Gul, a retired Pakistani Army General and known for heading the ISI, Inter-Service Intelligence, Pakistan Intelligence Agency.

02:09:30.000 During the Soviet-Afghan War and leading the Mujahideen to victory.

02:09:35.000 And of course he's traveled the world and consulted here with world leaders in Europe and the United States.

02:09:43.000 And the website is GeneralHameedGhul.com.

02:09:48.000 So people can check that out as well.

02:09:51.000 And he has exposed the fact that Al-Qaeda, as its modern The Permutation Show is run by the West as a pretext to invade Pakistan, Afghanistan, to take liberties in the U.S., in Europe, and now it's never been more naked. 0.62

02:10:08.000 When he was first on the broadcast six, seven years ago, there were a bunch of national, international news stories saying, and preposterous, General Gould is on that crazy Alex Jones, saying Al-Qaeda's run by the West when it was founded by the West for another purpose and then turned into what it is today.

02:10:27.000 And now it's in the news.

02:10:30.000 Senator Paul two weeks ago said, we're funding Al Qaeda in Syria.

02:10:33.000 It's a crime.

02:10:35.000 I had Colonel Schaffer on last hour from the Pentagon saying it's wrong and most of the Pentagon doesn't like it and people are being fired.

02:10:43.000 And he said, but I can't say more or I'll be basically brought up on national security violation charges.

02:10:48.000 But when the government's criminal, it's treason to not go public.

02:10:52.000 So the point is there's a real moment of conscience here where our government, the Pentagon, the rest of it realizes that a group of globalist criminals have hijacked the country.

02:11:01.000 So he's here to talk about how Mohammed Karzai has gone public and said Al Qaeda is bombing things here at the behest of the Pentagon and the West and NATO.

02:11:12.000 It's now all coming out.

02:11:14.000 So how does that affect things? 0.84

02:11:16.000 What does that say about the parasites that have basically gotten into the West's mind and taken it over?

02:11:22.000 And where does he see this going with his...

02:11:26.000 his well-schooled and trained mind that has a lot of gravitas.

02:11:29.000 He's well-known worldwide as having a great grasp on the hidden geopolitical machinations.

02:11:35.000 So without further ado, General Hamid Ghul joining us from Pakistan via audio Skype.

02:11:40.000 Sir, you heard me lay out some of the points there.

02:11:42.000 Where do you want to go first in what I brought up or are there other points you'd like to make?

02:11:49.000 Well, I would want to start from Syria because I think it is no more a secret that the West is supporting them.

02:12:00.000 The rebels of the Al-Qaeda fighters are being supported fully.

02:12:06.000 And what is more, that perhaps the chemical weapons are being used by the operators of Al-Qaeda rather than by the government of Bashar al-Assad.

02:12:19.000 There is a suspicion in my mind and there is some evidence of that because I heard some voices and then after that those voices were choked.

02:12:30.000 Obviously the West doesn't want to get into this mess.

02:12:34.000 But obviously Karzai is the first voice who has said that Al-Qaeda is being used by the West, both in Afghanistan and in Syria.

02:12:44.000 But I will go beyond that and say that they were used in Libya as well as in Tunis.

02:12:52.000 In Libya, for instance, there was a man who was heading the rebel forces in Libya, supported fully by the West.

02:13:03.000 And he was the younger brother of Abu Yahya al-Libi, a famous Al-Qaeda leader who was killed here by drone attack in Pakistan.

02:13:13.000 He was perhaps number two after Amin al-Zawahiri in Al-Qaeda hierarchy.

02:13:21.000 And I know a lot of people now who are running the government in Libya Because France simply wanted to get the Arabian oil to fuel their industry and they thought it convenient that Al-Qaeda could be used for this purpose.

02:13:41.000 But I think it exposes the dichotomy, the hypocrisy in the Western mind that on the one hand they treat Al-Qaeda as a terrorist organization and they are waging a war And what George Bush had once described, in 60 countries this war is to go on.

02:14:02.000 They have turned the world upside down, the American economy has gone overboard.

02:14:08.000 It is in such quandary that I think it will take decades to come out of it, if at all it does.

02:14:15.000 And it has taken away the moral high ground that America once used to enjoy.

02:14:22.000 It has exposed the military might of America badly.

02:14:27.000 And all this war against terrorism has actually turned upon America in a very big way and in a negative way.

02:14:36.000 And now it is Karzai, their ally, their puppet, who is talking so openly against them.

02:14:44.000 And he says that it's not only the occupation of Afghanistan, which is a bad enough crime, but I think It is also that Al-Qaeda is being used to bomb and it is being financed.

02:14:58.000 Indians are fully involved in it.

02:15:01.000 As far as Pakistan is concerned, I know. 0.84

02:15:04.000 Because each one is trying to grind their own axe.

02:15:07.000 And they think that if Pakistan is somehow given the title of a failed state, then they will have a strong case to say that Pakistan must not exist, must not possess the nuclear weapon.

02:15:21.000 And the Israeli lobbies and the Indian lobbies are now fully riding on the neck of the Americans, on the back of the Americans. 0.79

02:15:31.000 But unfortunately, Obama has turned out to be a weakling. 0.90

02:15:36.000 He has been a very weak president. 0.99

02:15:40.000 He is gutless. 0.99

02:15:42.000 He lacks courage. 0.65

02:15:43.000 He cannot stand up to the Pentagon and its generals.

02:15:47.000 He cannot stand up to the neocons.

02:15:50.000 This is his problem.

02:15:51.000 He can't even do a small thing like close the Guantanamo Bay Camp.

02:15:58.000 That prison is still there, although five years ago, more than five years ago, he promised that this would be closed.

02:16:07.000 So if this is the situation, this is a bad omen for America in the future, and the future generations of the American people.

02:16:15.000 Now, being specific again, General Hamid Gul, Lieutenant General, former head of the ISI, former head, leader of the Mujahideen, with the CIA and others that were able to bring down and defeat the Soviets who were undefeated, he joins us now.

02:16:28.000 When you were first on seven years ago, but then on again last year, and many other times, you laid out What was going to happen?

02:16:37.000 You pointed out they're running the bombings in Afghanistan, they're running Al-Qaeda in Pakistan, and you explained they have them bomb things so they have an excuse to come in with drones to then bomb the villages to stir people up, to destabilize, and the non-military mind goes, well why would people running America run Al-Qaeda?

02:16:57.000 You run Al-Qaeda as the reason to be there, to control the opium and have the no-bid weapons contracts as a cash cow, which then bankrupts America, but makes these multinational corporations incredibly rich.

02:16:57.000 It's simple.

02:17:12.000 And now that's all mainstream news.

02:17:14.000 So I'd like you to speak... How big a deal is it that Mohammed Karzai, the president of Afghanistan, people that don't know, came out a few months ago and said, these bombings are done by Al-Qaeda and the West as an excuse to stay here.

02:17:26.000 Now I don't just believe him, I went and looked at the evidence, that's what it was.

02:17:30.000 Uh, and that's what you've said.

02:17:32.000 So, what does this signify?

02:17:34.000 To have him going public?

02:17:36.000 To have Pentagon generals being fired because they're going public?

02:17:39.000 Uh, I mean, this looks like almost a collapse of this agenda, because they didn't want this out in the open, General.

02:17:45.000 So what does this mean, geopolitically?

02:17:49.000 Well, geopolitically, it means that America has been completely washed out.

02:17:54.000 And unless they quickly achieve a clean break, They will cut a very sorry figure because I think this is an axiomatic principle of war that once you are defeated and you must break away immediately, cut off and run from there, scoot from there.

02:18:16.000 And do so gracefully if you can, but unfortunately the way they have chosen, because the security contractors, and there are no less than 105,000 security contractors now employed in Afghanistan, They're all the old hands of the CIA and the FBI and various other agencies and the cronies of some of the people who are running the show in America.

02:18:42.000 So, obviously, it's big money involved for them.

02:18:44.000 And then there is opium trade, which is worth more than $5 billion in raw form.

02:18:51.000 92% of the world's total raw opium market is now being provided for by the Afghan trade, opium trade.

02:19:02.000 And it is happening right under their nose, and I'm afraid some of the military aircraft have been used for this purpose, because it is not possible.

02:19:12.000 We know that there was a time when we used to have great holds of these narcotics in Pakistan, but for the last six or seven years, there are no big holds.

02:19:24.000 So where are they going?

02:19:25.000 Which route are they taking?

02:19:26.000 Obviously Iran they cannot use as a route.

02:19:29.000 Pakistan is not being used.

02:19:31.000 So what is the route?

02:19:32.000 It is the aerial route which is being used.

02:19:35.000 And it's going to Europe, it is going to America itself.

02:19:39.000 And what a tragedy!

02:19:41.000 In order to make money they are spoiling their future ambitions.

02:19:45.000 This is atrocious to say the least.

02:19:48.000 And what Karzai is saying is because he's frustrated now.

02:19:52.000 But he cannot reverse his project at this stage.

02:19:55.000 Well, Lieutenant General Gould, we're going to come right back to you, sir, to finish up this bombshell thought.

02:20:00.000 He's saying the only drug route is out on U.S. aircraft, the opium.

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02:24:06.000 All right, my friends, this is a short segment, long segment coming up with Lieutenant General Hamid Gould.

02:24:18.000 You have to understand, he's probably the most famous general in the last hundred years in Central Asian history.

02:24:27.000 Not just Pakistani history.

02:24:29.000 Very successful across the board, fighting the Russians that, I don't know, probably had 20 times the firepower from some of the statistics I've seen, in some cases 100 times, and was successful. 0.97

02:24:42.000 And then in the last decade, while he's seen Afghanistan and Pakistan encircled and destabilized, he's been saying, why are you doing this?

02:24:50.000 When he'd been an ally with the United States in the West.

02:24:53.000 And what I've found is, I research this stuff all the time, but I'm not a military trained man like him.

02:24:58.000 He was a successful wartime general in that war, but a successful commander in the Kashmir War with India, if memory serves, in frontline combat.

02:25:10.000 And when he comes on, what he says ends up happening a year, two years later.

02:25:13.000 I mean, he's not selling you an agenda.

02:25:16.000 He cares about his country.

02:25:17.000 I have him on and respect him because I know he's just telling the truth.

02:25:21.000 And the truth is always the best way to go.

02:25:24.000 Sure, he has a bias towards not wanting his country overthrown and their weapons stolen and destabilized, but I've looked geopolitically for my family.

02:25:33.000 It's good to not have Pakistan, you know, be turned over to a bunch of radicals. 1.00

02:25:37.000 Now, this is a short segment, General, and I've taken time talking about who you are.

02:25:41.000 I just want the audience to get that you know what you're talking about.

02:25:45.000 So, you're saying the West is there for opium and contracts. 0.87

02:25:49.000 I have family in Afghanistan right now, in the army, who fly around picking up contractors that are blown up all day on the side of the road.

02:25:57.000 The helicopters are getting shot up.

02:25:59.000 The losses are being covered up.

02:26:00.000 I wasn't told that by the family.

02:26:02.000 I have that from separate sources.

02:26:03.000 But how bad is the route right now?

02:26:06.000 And if the lobbyists are paying off the politicians to just keep people there, there's still a breaking point with, I guess, Americans and contractors hanging off skids like Saigon in the mid-70s.

02:26:19.000 I mean, where does this end as a military man who knows this region like no one else?

02:26:26.000 Alex, I think this is worse than Vietnam. 1.00

02:26:30.000 I think the stakes are much higher for those people who are involved in making big money.

02:26:37.000 I think there has to be a neutral commission set up by the We will probe into the properties which have been purchased recently, the waterfront properties and a lot of money which has been accumulated in Swiss banks and elsewhere.

02:26:54.000 And we have to look into it, who made all this money, the trillions of dollars which have been pilfered out of this.

02:27:02.000 And that Corps of Engineers, which is a despicable thing for me as a soldier, to think about that Corps of Engineers, U.S.

02:27:11.000 Corps of Engineers, It's actually getting graphed up to 25 percent.

02:27:17.000 They get false receipts signed by the contractor, the road is bad, which they build.

02:27:25.000 Bridges are blown up on their order.

02:27:28.000 They want those bridges to be blown up so that they can be reconstructed and more money can flow into their pocket.

02:27:35.000 So this has corrupted the American people and the longer they stay, the more damage A whole nation's character wants a very proud nation.

02:27:50.000 It is a proud nation, even today, I would say, one of the greatest nations.

02:27:55.000 Unfortunately, what is being done to it by a handful of people who are selfish, avaricious, and they would stop at nothing to make money.

02:28:06.000 So I will also comment upon the generals who fully know that this war has been lost, but even then they will not stop at sacrificing the boys and girls of their own nation for what their interests are and because they are so arrogant.

02:28:27.000 Some of them are not corrupt, but they are very arrogant.

02:28:29.000 They think that we cannot be defeated.

02:28:31.000 But the fact is that they have been defeated very badly.

02:28:35.000 And now their choices are to go out gracefully or to be disgraced and have their noses rubbed in the hard soil of Afghanistan.

02:28:46.000 This is the choice on which we stand today.

02:28:49.000 Unless they realize this, that we have made a mistake, and they curtail their agenda, and they do not fall under the influence of those people who want to go out to make money, there is going to be embarrassment for America.

02:29:07.000 Why 2014?

02:29:09.000 If you have lost the war already, and it has been known since 2009 that this is an unwinnable war, then why take five more years?

02:29:21.000 And yet, some generals are saying, no, we must stay on!

02:29:26.000 Why do you want to stay on?

02:29:28.000 Because there are contractors who are building up the bases there in Afghanistan, We're on the march.

02:29:36.000 The empire's on the run.

02:29:38.000 been awarded the contact.

02:29:39.000 Oh, they're still planning to stay.

02:29:41.000 Stay there.

02:29:41.000 Absolutely.

02:29:42.000 We're going to come back and look at that in the bombshell you dropped.

02:29:44.000 You're saying the West, and there's proof of some of this, is bombing our own troops as a pretext to keep them there.

02:29:51.000 Unbelievable.

02:29:52.000 We'll be right back.

02:29:54.000 We're on the march.

02:29:54.000 Stay with us.

02:29:58.000 The empire's on the run.

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02:33:34.000 We're back live, ladies and gentlemen.

02:33:38.000 You know, we tend to think of this as America And the West versus the Muslims. 1.00

02:33:45.000 And that's how the media tries to sell it. 0.92

02:33:47.000 The truth is, if you look on record, and I had Lt.

02:33:50.000 Col.

02:33:50.000 Anthony Schafer on earlier, who used to be part of the unit hunting bin Laden and wasn't allowed to kill him, because he was a cutout.

02:34:00.000 There are powerful global corporations that have made The last number I saw was something like 7 trillion dollars the last 11 plus years in these wars.

02:34:08.000 Just unbelievable.

02:34:11.000 And the rip-offs and the scams and all of it.

02:34:14.000 And then I talked to family and I talked to mercenaries I know and people and they go, oh I know the government.

02:34:20.000 One group of it funds Al-Qaeda and some of the Taliban.

02:34:23.000 And I understand, you know, now there's some of the other tribal groups.

02:34:26.000 It's more of a grudge match and they're mad at people in their country.

02:34:28.000 But whatever. 1.00

02:34:31.000 You know, I just like to kill people. 0.99

02:34:34.000 And I'm not talking about my family so much. 0.99

02:34:36.000 Or maybe I am.

02:34:37.000 The point is, the point is they just like to fight.

02:34:40.000 And I guess the Afghans like to fight too.

02:34:42.000 It's their country. 0.76

02:34:43.000 But this is insane.

02:34:45.000 But a lot of these people have been in two, three, four tours and don't want to fight.

02:34:48.000 And they're sent back even when their foot's been blown off.

02:34:51.000 They put prosthesis on them and make them go. 0.90

02:34:54.000 Uh, over there.

02:34:55.000 Uh, and then meanwhile these corporations sit back and make trillions of dollars of our taxpayer money and this is immoral.

02:35:02.000 Now, Mohammed Karzai comes out and says the West is blowing stuff up and funding Al-Qaeda.

02:35:06.000 That's on record.

02:35:07.000 But there are other tribal groups, and nobody knows them better than General Gould, who could, the only guy that ever could go in and manage them all and focus them against the Russians. 0.58

02:35:15.000 And he pointed out, I mean, if Pakistan tried to come in and take over Afghanistan, they probably couldn't do it.

02:35:19.000 And they share a lot of cultural heritage.

02:35:21.000 I mean, he can correct me if I'm wrong.

02:35:22.000 Maybe Pakistan could. 0.98

02:35:23.000 No one's ever conquered them.

02:35:25.000 So, there's no way the West, in my view, and the war planners really thought they could go beat these people.

02:35:31.000 They just wanted to go in and have the perfect endless war because they're not thinking about American interest.

02:35:37.000 They're not thinking about that.

02:35:38.000 Why are they putting radicals in all these other countries?

02:35:41.000 They want the next war. 0.87

02:35:42.000 General, do you agree or disagree with what I just said because your audio was breaking up a bit and people may have missed it?

02:35:48.000 Did I hear you correctly say that there are groups being funded to blow up contractors and troops, not just to try to blow up the central government?

02:35:57.000 And that, I mean, what percentage of the resistance against the West is actually being funded by the West as a pretext to stay there from your Research General, Gould?

02:36:08.000 There is, Alex, for your audience, I want to clarify one thing.

02:36:14.000 That there is a genuine Al-Qaeda.

02:36:16.000 There's no doubt about it.

02:36:17.000 That was a reaction to what America was doing.

02:36:21.000 And their own countries, which were under the tutelage of America, were actually doing.

02:36:26.000 So those people came in and they had gathered in Afghanistan.

02:36:32.000 That's true.

02:36:33.000 Then, immediately, the CIA created their own Al-Qaeda, and that parallel Al-Qaeda, or parallel Taliban as far as Pakistan is concerned, they are nations of America themselves.

02:36:48.000 And, unfortunately, the British are fully involved in this. 0.94

02:36:52.000 The other European countries have kept a distance, but the British and the Americans together, they have been playing this game for a long time now.

02:37:02.000 But this is a very dangerous game, because they know that Afghanistan has never been conquered, it has been known as a graveyard of the superpowers, and yet another superpower is getting buried there.

02:37:16.000 It is still time to achieve a clean break, but unfortunately, as I said, those greedy people who are running the show and who are filling the pockets of the people who are the decision makers, they would not let them break away.

02:37:33.000 While any logic, any reason, any rationale would suggest that they must go away as quickly as possible.

02:37:40.000 Now, going out of Afghanistan The only relief zone is Pakistan. 0.93

02:37:46.000 They can't go towards Iran, they cannot go towards the Soviet Union, the Russians, because Putin is at loggerhead with them, he is very high, and he will not allow the Northern Network, as it is called euphemistically, it's not going to work.

02:38:05.000 But Pakistan is also being targeted.

02:38:08.000 Why is Pakistan being destabilised on purpose, when this is the only relief loan for you?

02:38:14.000 This is a big question.

02:38:16.000 It means only one thing, that the Israelis and the Indians, more particularly the Israelis, would never rest in peace unless Pakistan is brought to a status of a failed state, where Pakistan can be universally declared as a state which must not possess nuclear weapons. 0.79

02:38:36.000 So, I think American policy makers are playing in two different hands.

02:38:43.000 One is the fear and ambition of the Indians and the Israelis, and the other is the greed of the multinationals. 0.84

02:38:57.000 So, these two factors put together, are going to destroy the future of the American people.

02:39:04.000 They will have to go back to isolation.

02:39:07.000 They are using drones.

02:39:10.000 As soon as our new government, after a very handsome turnout by the people, in spite of threats from the Taliban, the Taliban of Pakistan, that they would attack any polling station, any number of polling stations.

02:39:27.000 But people of Pakistan turned out in huge numbers.

02:39:30.000 And as soon as democracy was established, within two days, there was a drone attack.

02:39:37.000 Because the Prime Minister, at that time, Prime Minister-elect Nawaz Sharif had said earlier on that he would engage the Taliban in talks so that this turmoil, this bloodshed in Pakistan ends.

02:39:51.000 That means America is not being friendly to the very country that they need so much for their withdrawal.

02:39:59.000 Let's be specific, General, because your audio is breaking up just a little bit.

02:40:02.000 We may try to reconnect here in a moment.

02:40:04.000 Joining us via audio Skype from Pakistan, Lieutenant General Hamid Gul, who headed up the victory against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

02:40:13.000 Let me ask you this question then.

02:40:15.000 Specifically, what do you expect, because you've been very accurate the last seven years coming on and we appreciate that, what do you now expect to happen as multinational corporations want to make all this money, the Israel lobby doesn't want you to have nuclear weapons that you already have, India, for whatever reason, you know, has some problems with Pakistan, long-standing Uh, rivalries.

02:40:39.000 Where do you expect this to go?

02:40:41.000 If it's on record, the so-called war occupation is failing, uh, then how long will this go on?

02:40:50.000 How will this end?

02:40:51.000 Because, as you said, they're building more bases.

02:40:53.000 I don't think they're leaving in 2014.

02:40:55.000 They always say they're leaving.

02:40:56.000 They didn't really leave Iraq.

02:40:58.000 They've got, you know, troops and bases there.

02:41:00.000 I mean, how do you expect this to end?

02:41:02.000 How do you expect, uh, Syria to end?

02:41:04.000 How do you exp... I mean...

02:41:06.000 Because it looks like the globalists are just saying, you know, hey, let's make money, but the military knows it cannot even carry this out.

02:41:15.000 As far as South Asia is concerned, I think China is the net gainer, and they are coming in in a quiet way.

02:41:22.000 They have already got hold of the Wagah port from Pakistan, because Pakistan was so much beleaguered and so angry with America that they handed it over to the, almost for a song, to the Chinese. 0.87

02:41:36.000 So Chinese are going to be sitting on the gullet of the Western economy, which is because No, nearly 50% of the oil flows through that area and Chinese will be right there on top of it. 1.00

02:41:50.000 So, Chinese are coming in, and Chinese, Pakistan and future of Afghanistan together is going to be a big problem for America and the West. 1.00

02:42:01.000 And their dream of going, reaching out to Central Asian oil reserves and the markets in the future and the mineral reserve is going to end up in a disaster.

02:42:12.000 So, I don't think this is possible.

02:42:14.000 As far as Syria is concerned, Syria is again becoming a Shia-Sunni problem, unfortunately. 0.99

02:42:25.000 And the people of Al-Qaeda, they are operating there, but they are not.

02:42:32.000 Obama is very tentative.

02:42:34.000 When you are tentative in a war, which is very important for your interest, this is not going to help.

02:42:41.000 That means it's a disaster.

02:42:42.000 You don't know what you want to do.

02:42:45.000 Your mission is not clear.

02:42:47.000 So, if you are not helping them, slowly, gradually, Bashar al-Assad, along with help from Hezbollah, is going to get back and take control of whole of Syria, and then Iraq will be in trouble in future.

02:43:04.000 So, this Middle East will remain for a while, the battleground. 1.00

02:43:09.000 And here the Russians have big stakes. 0.76

02:43:12.000 And President Putin is supporting, he's sending S-300 anti-missile missiles.

02:43:18.000 So, this is a big development, a huge development.

02:43:21.000 Absolutely, so now Russia, so correct me if I'm wrong, what the globalists have done, acting against Western interest, Is there driving former ally Pakistan to the hands of the communist Chinese, which Pakistan was leery of. 0.65

02:43:34.000 You guys aren't communist, but you've been driven into their hands.

02:43:37.000 And now Russia is coming in as the good guy.

02:43:40.000 It's almost like the people running America want to destroy us.

02:43:43.000 Because if you look at it, there's things bigger than just money.

02:43:46.000 They are destroying our name.

02:43:48.000 They are empowering Russia and China.

02:43:48.000 They are.

02:43:51.000 And they are destroying American interest, and that's why I've been told by high-level Pentagon sources, way above Tony Schafer, generals, former top CIA people, that they're all upset that these multinationals are doing this, because geopolitically, they are really... Why are they doing this?

02:44:09.000 This is insane!

02:44:12.000 Yes indeed it is because I think they don't have a very clear vision.

02:44:18.000 They lack the vision.

02:44:19.000 They have no grand vision of the world for tomorrow.

02:44:23.000 This is the problem.

02:44:24.000 They are myopic and they are looking to their immediate interest and a lot of people want personal glory like General Petraeus for example.

02:44:35.000 He was looking for when he was asking for surge, and he got it, 33,000 more troops in Afghanistan, which was an utter failure, because he thought that he would be able to run for the presidential election, and he will get a name for himself. because he thought that he would be able to run If these are the objectives of the top people, that means they are not looking to the interests of the nation, they are looking at their personal interests.

02:45:02.000 This is selfishness of the highest order.

02:45:04.000 And because of that, a lot of problems creep in, a lot of flaws in the policymaking creep up.

02:45:10.000 General, again, General Hamid Gould is joining us via audio.

02:45:17.000 We probably should have done phone.

02:45:18.000 It's better at times, worse at times, but this is such riveting information if the audience can make it all out.

02:45:25.000 I mean, what you're saying is the truth.

02:45:27.000 I mean, it's not hidden.

02:45:29.000 And so the Pentagon knows this, and other geopolitical strategists know this.

02:45:34.000 I mean, do you think they're really going to leave in 2014?

02:45:40.000 Next year?

02:45:42.000 I think they will try to drag their feet, but unfortunately it is not going to happen that way because I know as a military man and I think those people among your audience who have had any knowledge of the military They would understand that there are three important factors, time, space, and relative strength, which determine the outcome of any conflict on the battlefield.

02:46:07.000 Now, in this particular case, if they have lost the spaces and their relative strength is reduced only to firepower, which they have, which they can initiate from anywhere, from the seas or even from America, their B-1s and B-2s can from the seas or even from America, their B-1s and B-2s can fly out directly from America and come and But if they want to stay here, that means they will be in fortress defense.

02:46:35.000 The spaces will be in somebody else's control, a hostile population, a hostile force which is not afraid of fighting and which is not tired of fighting. 0.80

02:46:44.000 Then the factor of time is very important.

02:46:48.000 Afghans say that time is on our side. 0.99

02:46:51.000 We possess the time and Americans possess the watch.

02:46:54.000 So a factor of time is entirely on their side.

02:46:58.000 So this is the issue which has to be settled militarily.

02:47:02.000 But it's like England, when they tried to occupy Scotland for 500 years, they could never do it because the people never submitted.

02:47:10.000 Isn't the key resistance, and even if people don't even have weapons, if they don't comply and just resist, you can never occupy someone.

02:47:20.000 How right you are, Alex.

02:47:22.000 I am a student of military history, and there is not one example that I can quote to you where a nation has been defeated by invading armies.

02:47:33.000 It is not possible to defeat armies, but armies cannot defeat nations.

02:47:39.000 And that's why globalism tries to get rid of national sovereignty and nationalism because they want to conquer us with this corporate evil.

02:47:47.000 And that's all they're doing.

02:47:48.000 They're picking off every nation one at a time.

02:47:51.000 And they've already picked off America. 0.64

02:47:53.000 But if we ever reawaken as Americans and go back to being the good guys...

02:47:57.000 This evil will vanish very quickly, but if we go down this dark path, General Gould, where do you see America, England, Israel, all these countries ending?

02:48:07.000 Because you can see the whole world is turning against us because we have been occupied by criminal groups.

02:48:15.000 Yes, yes indeed there is a cavity inside, there's a hollowness inside, which needs to be addressed before addressing the external issues.

02:48:24.000 And Obama had made that promise and that's why he was given the peace prize, Nobel Prize for Peace.

02:48:30.000 But unfortunately he has not come up to the promise.

02:48:33.000 So it is a receding power.

02:48:39.000 I can read Paul Kennedy once again, the rise and fall of the Western power, where he described the Western power as a terrifying power.

02:48:48.000 It has only one way to go, and that is downhill. 1.00

02:48:51.000 But that it will go downhill so fast because of the stupidity of the American leadership, nobody could have ever imagined. 1.00

02:49:00.000 So it's a receding power. 1.00

02:49:02.000 It is going back.

02:49:03.000 It is shaking.

02:49:04.000 And I think the pendulum of power is shifting elsewhere.

02:49:08.000 And the globalists, who've moved all their power bases to China, Kissinger and others, and are moving our factories there, they actually want that, and they're sucking us dry while they destroy our name, and they move to China.

02:49:22.000 I don't think there is a design behind that.

02:49:25.000 They are not doing it on design.

02:49:27.000 They are doing it because simply they are greedy.

02:49:29.000 They want to make money.

02:49:30.000 This is the problem with capitalism.

02:49:33.000 And capitalism, eventually it goes on self-destruct.

02:49:38.000 It destroys the very society in which it thrives, in which it flourishes, but eventually it ends up in destroying that society.

02:49:47.000 When you let criminal combines get together, what economic system do you like, General Ghul?

02:49:53.000 Well, flat taxation.

02:49:54.000 I think Steve Forbes at one time said, this is the economic system that we need to follow.

02:50:00.000 Mortar economy is one way to go.

02:50:04.000 if you don't like that, then there has to be taxation, which has to be flat.

02:50:09.000 80% of taxation in America, in Pakistan, in any other country which is following the Western model or Adam Smith's model, it comes from the poor people.

02:50:21.000 That's why poor are becoming poorer and rich are becoming very rich.

02:50:24.000 In America, it is the worst because there are only a handful of families, probably two dozen families which control a lot of wealth, more than half the wealth of America.

02:50:36.000 Perhaps you may have even better figures about it.

02:50:40.000 So what you're saying is we need fair taxes where...

02:50:44.000 Because yeah, the billionaires are exempt, and they put the taxes on the middle class, making us poor.

02:50:48.000 I want you to quantify that when we come back, final segment with General Hamid Gul.

02:50:51.000 Then I'll do some overdrive and take John and other people's calls, Fred in Connecticut, Lindsey, everybody.

02:50:57.000 We'll get to all of you.

02:50:58.000 General Hamid Gul, final segment, amazing interview with this gentleman.

02:51:03.000 You never get to hear this stuff.

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02:54:28.000 And I was talking to General Amin Ghul about economic systems, and he was saying Islamic system.

02:54:34.000 Explain to us that system, because I've seen that scene as kind of a free market.

02:54:39.000 It's been described from what I've seen as a layman as kind of a capitalist system.

02:54:42.000 But maybe I'm wrong.

02:54:43.000 Describe to me the Islamic economic system from your perspective.

02:54:49.000 The economic system has two ingredients in it.

02:54:52.000 One is that there is a tax rate, tax on production, straight away, because in case of crops, etc., or anything that you produce, you take in commodity or you take in cash.

02:55:08.000 And then on accumulation, if you build a huge big house and you need to pay tax on it, and to the extent that poor people can have a roof on their head, The second aspect of it is interest-free.

02:55:24.000 Loan.

02:55:26.000 Loan is full of interest.

02:55:28.000 And can you imagine that American people can get anything they want, but they have to work. 0.55

02:55:33.000 They actually get enslaved because of that.

02:55:37.000 The flavor of life is lost for them.

02:55:39.000 They keep on working their back off all their life in order to pay back the loan.

02:55:44.000 Now that is anti-Islamic.

02:55:47.000 Islam does not say that you should enslave anybody because of the fiscal system that you have created.

02:55:55.000 So really there is no freedom when you think that you Actually, you're owned by, you become the slaves of the multinationals, or the big companies, or the corporate... Well, I guess the Federal Reserve, to themselves, they give themselves free money, interest-free, so I guess the New World Order actually follows the Islamic system, but only for themselves. 0.91

02:56:20.000 Yes, indeed, but it has to be for the rest of the world.

02:56:23.000 Now, we have to look at Western democracy also.

02:56:26.000 After all, the gift of colonization was Western democracy, slave trading was Western democracy, big wars were the gift of Western democracy, and now these multinationals, they are crossing the border, there's no flag, no frontier.

02:56:41.000 If China suits them, they rush off to China and start making money there and then sending things back to America. 0.80

02:56:50.000 So American dollars are going on India to the Chinese coffers.

02:56:55.000 And the Chinese, what are they doing? 1.00

02:56:56.000 They are paying To the Americans in form of loans and they are eventually going to buy all your big assets and institutions.

02:57:07.000 You will see that will happen because this is the flaw in the system.

02:57:11.000 And this system needs to be reformed.

02:57:14.000 General, I appreciate you giving us your perspective on that.

02:57:16.000 Very interesting.

02:57:17.000 And I look forward to having you back on in the next few months.

02:57:21.000 Sometime we ought to do video Skype if we get a better connection.

02:57:24.000 But I hope that we can end these illegal wars and stop trying to destabilize the world and that America can become a country again instead of a A force used by multinationals to take over the planet.

02:57:37.000 We pay for it, we get the blame for it, and I'm sick of it.

02:57:40.000 And I hope the Pakistani people and Afghan people understand there are a lot of Americans here that are fighting, you know, to try to stop the globalists from using us for evil.

02:57:52.000 And I hope the Pakistani people do realize that the West did try to help you guys against the Russians.

02:57:58.000 Yes, it did.

02:57:59.000 We do appreciate that.

02:58:00.000 And we have been allies and friends of America.

02:58:03.000 But unfortunately, America always decides to eventually... Some dark prince in America tries to destroy its own friends.

02:58:12.000 So this is the real tragedy.

02:58:15.000 You must understand, know yourself and know your enemy, and half the problem is over.

02:58:21.000 But unfortunately, they neither know their enemy, nor do they know their friend.

02:58:27.000 Absolutely.

02:58:28.000 That's an older saying than G.I.

02:58:30.000 Joe, knowing is half the battle.

02:58:31.000 That's an old military term.

02:58:32.000 Thousands of years old, and America doesn't know, and that's why we're in so much trouble.

02:58:36.000 Knowing is half the battle.

02:58:38.000 Hence, InfoWars.com.

02:58:40.000 General Hamid Gul, thank you so much for joining us.

02:58:42.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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03:00:49.000 I got a bunch of news I haven't gotten to is why I'm going to overdrive.

03:00:51.000 I'm going to go to calls right now and come back.

03:00:53.000 Go to more calls then to the news.

03:00:55.000 Things like this.

03:00:56.000 Bank robbery suspect wants NSA surveillance records for defense.

03:01:01.000 Now that all the sheeple are learning this is going on, People are going to say, hey, you have records that I was on the phone when that robbery went on.

03:01:11.000 So then everybody's going to want to start dialing into this, kind of like a public Google, into the whole public's activity.

03:01:19.000 And this is just amazing.

03:01:22.000 Sputchenik thinks it's all a big psy-op, and he says he knows General Alexander.

03:01:27.000 I gotta be honest though, you know, Pachinik says some really inflammatory things on air.

03:01:32.000 I know he listens.

03:01:34.000 He's a very interesting guy and I just...

03:01:36.000 I just think about, you know, what is he going to say once he gets on air.

03:01:40.000 But I'm thinking about getting him on to talk about this because he is a very interesting source.

03:01:43.000 And he went into North Korea during the whole Korean crisis thing.

03:01:47.000 I mean, he's just a real character.

03:01:49.000 So we've got some of that news.

03:01:51.000 And I just had Hamid Gul on, which, again, I think he was overdriving on his iPhone via Skype, but most of it you could hear pretty good.

03:01:58.000 It's just such important information.

03:02:00.000 And I really can't find anything he's saying that, you know, isn't true when it comes to military stuff.

03:02:04.000 Here's the deal.

03:02:05.000 The West is stirring up and funding radical Islamists, so they have an excuse to invade and take over the countries, to not even put good governments in, but to put worse ones in, to keep the cycle going.

03:02:17.000 It is hyper-immoral.

03:02:19.000 And they go, well, war isn't immoral, we're doing this to dominate.

03:02:23.000 The people doing it don't want us to have families.

03:02:26.000 The globalists that have conquered us are the worst bunch in the world, is my point. 0.84

03:02:32.000 I don't want to be under these Islamic regimes. 1.00

03:02:34.000 I don't want to be under some type of totalitarian Christian government. 0.90

03:02:42.000 I want to be under the Constitution.

03:02:46.000 I want to be under due process and freedom.

03:02:48.000 And man, right now we're a conquered state of the globalist.

03:02:51.000 They've got the federal government.

03:02:52.000 They've got most of the states.

03:02:53.000 They're taking over.

03:02:54.000 They're trying to shut off the free internet.

03:02:56.000 That's what this NSA building all these giant bases are about.

03:02:59.000 It's about the new internet.

03:03:00.000 That's the new conduit.

03:03:02.000 Google is part of the NSA.

03:03:04.000 And I don't like being conquered.

03:03:07.000 And they've come in with a corporate system so that it isn't a foreign army, because they know people always resist that.

03:03:12.000 And by resisting it, not serving you food, not being your friend, not paying the taxes, militarily resisting you.

03:03:20.000 There's many ways to resist, so they know to come in with Hollywood stars and glitz, and it's a psychological takeover.

03:03:28.000 And I want the New World Order out of my life.

03:03:33.000 And much of the public is just caught in complete thrall.

03:03:37.000 Complete thrall, having no idea how much scientific manipulation they're under.

03:03:45.000 And then you talk to somebody like Hamid Gul, I mean, because I'm informed about this stuff. 0.70

03:03:50.000 And I know for some new listeners who may not be informed, that might have been, you know, sounded like Martian to you, especially with the bad connection, or the jumbled connection, what he was saying, but I'm listening to it and it's just all right on.

03:04:02.000 Because it's on record they created a new Al Qaeda on top of the old Al Qaeda and a new Taliban.

03:04:08.000 And then they went and arrested the real Taliban that wasn't really doing anything and flew the new fake Taliban out to safety into Pakistan. 0.84

03:04:16.000 That was the airlift of evil.

03:04:18.000 And then you just see full spectrum dominance.

03:04:20.000 For someone that doesn't get this, it's like, what do you mean our government funds the terrorists?

03:04:24.000 They're fighting them.

03:04:25.000 No, they fund them as the reason to be in those countries.

03:04:29.000 They fund them as the reason to have the black hole to spend trillions of dollars on.

03:04:33.000 I mean, it's so elementary, I don't know how the public doesn't get it.

03:04:37.000 Remember the famous case, like, 18 years ago?

03:04:39.000 It was when I first got on air, I covered it.

03:04:41.000 In New York City, a guy was going around with a ball-peen hammer, breaking a hundred windshields a night on average, and the cops finally clicked and went, look at all these ads for windshield dings up everywhere, and staked out and caught the owner in the areas, going and bashing the windshields out right under his billboards, to then have people go get the windshields fixed.

03:05:02.000 I mean, that's it.

03:05:03.000 That's how it works.

03:05:05.000 That's what it is, okay?

03:05:06.000 Real simple.

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03:08:16.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

03:08:19.000 All right, we're in overdrive.

03:08:28.000 Take your phone calls.

03:08:30.000 There's a lot of other breaking news as well up on Infowars.com.

03:08:34.000 Congressman Peter King calls for prosecution of journalists who broke NSA's snooping story.

03:08:41.000 The NSA is committing felonies billions of times a day, conservatively.

03:08:45.000 It's on record it's a felony.

03:08:47.000 It's on record they've been caught lying.

03:08:48.000 It's on record they're building a machine many times bigger than it was.

03:08:53.000 It's on record that Alexander has bragged it'll be able to take over the old web, shut down free speech.

03:08:58.000 It is incredible.

03:09:02.000 It is outrageous that all of this is going on.

03:09:09.000 And the article written by Steve Watson breaks all this down.

03:09:14.000 In fact, Steve goes over it.

03:09:15.000 The rep who supported terrorists calls for jailing reporters in America.

03:09:22.000 And that's right, King is on record supporting the IRA.

03:09:26.000 And again, folks, I support Irish freedom and independence.

03:09:31.000 But if you look at the IRA the last 50 years, it was a British intelligence operation to remove the moral high ground away from the Irish people so that they can claim we have to be here because you're bombing London.

03:09:47.000 Almost all of that was staged.

03:09:49.000 Almost all of it.

03:09:49.000 That's now mainline news in England.

03:09:52.000 So King wasn't even really supporting the Irish Republican Army.

03:09:57.000 He was supporting intelligence front groups.

03:10:00.000 against the Irish people, from my research.

03:10:03.000 Again, it's more sophisticated than that, ladies and gentlemen.

03:10:07.000 But once you understand the sophistication, it's all completely clear, and it's admitted.

03:10:12.000 It's not just, we're saying this is our view. 0.81

03:10:15.000 So, it's pretty disgusting. 0.98

03:10:20.000 It is pretty darn disgusting. 0.92

03:10:23.000 To see the persecution of the press. 0.88

03:10:26.000 And I'm telling you, this whole Homeland Security thing is for the Tea Party.

03:10:29.000 It's for Libertarians.

03:10:30.000 You got Joe Biden in private speeches saying we gotta shut down the Tea Party and go after Rand Paul.

03:10:35.000 Because they know Rand Paul is popular, populist, constitutional, and is going to take over the Republican Party.

03:10:44.000 Freedom is sexy, politically.

03:10:47.000 And people want it.

03:10:49.000 And a real constitutional vision will bring people together Everybody likes to organize into a gang.

03:10:54.000 How about we organize as freedom lovers together?

03:10:57.000 And stop worrying about what's race or religion or color, sexual preference, all these things.

03:11:02.000 Let's start becoming pro-human, pro-liberty.

03:11:05.000 And anything the globalists are pushing, we know is bad.

03:11:08.000 It's not a conservative or liberal issue, abortion.

03:11:10.000 It's an issue of they push it to lower the population.

03:11:15.000 It is done to dehumanize humanity.

03:11:20.000 I don't want to go on a tirade.

03:11:21.000 I said I'd go to your calls.

03:11:23.000 John in Florida, thanks for holding her on the air.

03:11:24.000 Welcome.

03:11:27.000 How you doing, Alex?

03:11:28.000 It's great to finally get to talk to you.

03:11:31.000 Great to have you.

03:11:33.000 Listen, Alex, you came back from London and you said we've got to take this to a whole new level, and you're right.

03:11:41.000 Adam Kokesh was talking about a march on D.C., our march.

03:11:46.000 He was talking about the Second Amendment.

03:11:48.000 But you know what?

03:11:49.000 This thing is so much bigger than all that.

03:11:51.000 We need a march on Washington, D.C., calling for the impeachment of Obama.

03:11:56.000 We need to start right at the top.

03:11:58.000 He's the captain of the ship.

03:12:00.000 He says he doesn't know what the NSA is doing.

03:12:02.000 He says he doesn't know about the IRS and what they're doing.

03:12:06.000 He doesn't know anything.

03:12:07.000 Well, you know, if you're a captain and you don't know anything, then you don't need to be the captain anymore.

03:12:12.000 Well, listen, here's the issue.

03:12:14.000 I don't think one march will do it, but marching locally, calling into radio, going to city council, talking about issues, resisting, speaking out in the TSA line, spreading the word about this broadcast.

03:12:27.000 We've got 22,167 signatures.

03:12:32.000 For an article we put up last week and gave no promotion for the White House to respond to a petition for Obama to resign for illegally violating Article 1, Section 8, and all the different things that they've done.

03:12:48.000 We put it out July 7, 2013.

03:12:52.000 We did another one too, just on the spying.

03:12:53.000 We didn't see the numbers on that.

03:12:56.000 And it's due July 7th.

03:13:00.000 It started a few weeks ago, or last week.

03:13:03.000 The point is, guys, print me that and show me the InfoWars article.

03:13:06.000 What I want is the InfoWars article, because what they did is they did two petitions, and there's one particular one that I particularly want to promote.

03:13:12.000 But my point is, just print me the InfoWars, I can pull it up, the InfoWars article, so I can give people the specifics, and give them the headline to be able to find it.

03:13:20.000 Go sign the petition so that the White House has to respond.

03:13:26.000 Okay, and again people say, well it doesn't matter, it's a non-binding petition.

03:13:29.000 It makes them respond and makes it a media issue.

03:13:33.000 So I agree with you.

03:13:35.000 We need to push, and even if Obama's just a puppet, it scares the other puppets when we hold them accountable.

03:13:42.000 Go ahead.

03:13:44.000 Absolutely.

03:13:45.000 See, the thing is, if Obama feels the heat and if people start calling for him to resign or calling for impeachment or whatever, all the minions other than him, too, start worrying and scurrying.

03:13:57.000 And that's what we need to do.

03:13:59.000 And I'll tell you, as a listener, and I've only been a listener for a few months, I have felt a lot of things going on in this country were just wrong.

03:14:06.000 It was all in my gut.

03:14:07.000 And when I started listening to your program, it just came so alive in me.

03:14:13.000 I tell you what, I gotta read a dose of the Bible every day just to keep my temper down, just to keep some peace.

03:14:20.000 Instead of getting angry, I hear you brother, and thanks for the call John.

03:14:24.000 Instead of getting angry, go wake people up.

03:14:27.000 Get aggressive.

03:14:27.000 Every few people you wake up, in numbers that brings them down.

03:14:31.000 Everybody's always looking for one magic solution, one march, one thing that can be done.

03:14:37.000 And that doesn't exist.

03:14:39.000 If the one film was made that hit the zeitgeist, and was like an hour long, and was seen by 300 million Americans, and caused a total shift, kind of like Uncle Tom's Cabin or something, against slavery, then maybe.

03:14:53.000 But other than that, there is no silver bullet.

03:14:57.000 There is no silver bullet.

03:14:58.000 It's a lot of little things that lead to the collapse of the globalist.

03:15:03.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Fred in Connecticut.

03:15:05.000 Fred, thanks for holding.

03:15:06.000 Go ahead.

03:15:06.000 Thank you.

03:15:08.000 Yeah, I'm calling with some Sandy Hook information regarding your upcoming meeting with Dr. Steve Pechenik.

03:15:16.000 Yes.

03:15:17.000 Okay, my sister is a social worker in that town and she's been working very closely with Jack Pinto's family.

03:15:26.000 Sir, I have no idea what you're talking about.

03:15:30.000 People call in here like they're, like they're, like they're calling, you know, like their cousin or something about what happened in the barn.

03:15:36.000 I mean, I don't... Wait, hang on, hang on, let me explain.

03:15:39.000 Pecheneg is going around saying Sandy Hook never happened.

03:15:43.000 What I'm here to tell your audience is that I know for a fact...

03:15:46.000 That it did.

03:15:47.000 I don't know exactly what happened, but I'm saying that you gotta watch out for that guy.

03:15:51.000 I do not trust him.

03:15:53.000 I know for a fact that people are missed in that town and children have died.

03:15:58.000 And I think it's ridiculous that he's going out, you know, promoting George Bush and promoting the fact that he thinks the Sandy Hook never happened.

03:16:05.000 No, no, I hear you.

03:16:06.000 I hear you and I appreciate your call.

03:16:07.000 I'm gonna move quick to the other callers.

03:16:09.000 I believe people were killed at Sandy Hook, and I'm on record saying that.

03:16:13.000 And basically, Bloomberg and others are saying that I didn't say that.

03:16:16.000 And I believe people died in the Boston bombing.

03:16:19.000 Okay, I just want to be clear about all that.

03:16:21.000 Let's go ahead and talk.

03:16:22.000 I speak for me, and I hear you, but I'm moving quick to get to everybody.

03:16:26.000 Allen in Georgia, you're on the air.

03:16:28.000 Welcome, sir.

03:16:31.000 How you doing?

03:16:35.000 Good.

03:16:35.000 Just one thing first and foremost is praise God for somebody like Amid Ghul.

03:16:40.000 I'd like to give your audience a little taste of what he's all about.

03:16:45.000 He's got a quote here back when, I think it was 10 hours from the September 11th attack, where they were asking him did he believe Osama Bin Laden was behind it.

03:16:57.000 And he says, from a cave inside a mountain?

03:16:59.000 Or a peasant's hovel?

03:17:01.000 Let's be serious, Osama inspires countless millions by standing up for Islam against American-Israel imperialism.

03:17:07.000 He doesn't have the means for such a sophisticated operation.

03:17:11.000 Not only that, in the same article here, this is UPI.com.

03:17:16.000 This is actually a source Wikipedia left.

03:17:20.000 I know Gould said that.

03:17:23.000 And he pointed out that killed Benazir Bhutto and the rest of it.

03:17:27.000 He's a super heavy hitter.

03:17:29.000 That's why I wish... And another thing, he said that Osama Bin Laden's English was impeccable. 0.51

03:17:34.000 I mean, he's been to universities and says he's impeccable, but yeah, he's got these CIA videos where we're being told what he's telling all of us.

03:17:42.000 Oh no, his CIA codename was Tim Osman.

03:17:45.000 That's on record.

03:17:46.000 No, it's all staged.

03:17:47.000 The killing of bin Laden, it's all staged.

03:17:49.000 It's all fake.

03:17:51.000 Okay, and another thing is, well, just to also throw this in there, I did make the video The Dark Tyrant Rises.

03:17:57.000 I don't know if you actually got to see that.

03:18:00.000 Or not, but for the Stop Dictator Obama contest.

03:18:03.000 Akon, for a while, was my YouTube name.

03:18:05.000 Well, great job, bro.

03:18:06.000 I'm gonna jump real quick to get one more person in.

03:18:08.000 Thank you.

03:18:09.000 Alexis in New York, first time caller.

03:18:11.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

03:18:14.000 Hi.

03:18:16.000 I recently came across a documentary by Aaron Russo.

03:18:20.000 He used to be a famous director in the 90s.

03:18:23.000 He died of, you know, quote-unquote, cancer.

03:18:25.000 Yes, America, freedom to fascism.

03:18:29.000 Yeah, and he couldn't find a law that requires the average American to pay an income tax.

03:18:33.000 I heard you earlier talking about how they're targeting certain groups on income taxes.

03:18:38.000 No, no, no.

03:18:39.000 The millionaires don't pay any taxes on average.

03:18:42.000 It's all a giant scam.

03:18:44.000 It's all a complete fraud.

03:18:46.000 Yeah, and I was wondering if maybe, you know, you'd like to attend a protest that I'm trying to put together on the first weekend in August in D.C.

03:18:54.000 to, you know, protest against it because they need to stop.

03:18:57.000 They can't keep doing this.

03:18:58.000 Well, ma'am, I hear you and I appreciate your call.

03:19:01.000 I probably won't be able to attend that, but I have been For, you know, 18 years exposing that the IRS is a collection agency for the private Federal Reserve and is designed to siphon off our money and bankrupt the country.

03:19:12.000 Lindsey, last caller real fast, thanks for holding, from Washington.

03:19:15.000 Go ahead and take us out.

03:19:16.000 Hey Alex, first time caller and I just wanted to let you know I'm completely savvy with what you have at risk and I wanted to thank you very much.

03:19:26.000 And what I wanted to talk to you about was the new Kinect for the Microsoft.

03:19:31.000 Yeah, that scans your whole house and watches you and tracks you, yeah.

03:19:35.000 Yeah, well, you know, Dr. Ron Paul said he had concerns about snow dudes getting hit with a cruise missile or a drone attack.

03:19:43.000 This new Kinect really looks like something where they could track you, and if they don't like what you say, or give you a threat to America, to use that as a drone strike against Americans.

03:19:53.000 Well, they don't have to do that.

03:19:54.000 They just give you vaccines and you die anyways.

03:19:56.000 Or you drink fluoride and you become mentally retarded, but... No, I mean, the Kinect is an imperial probe droid robot literally watching you in your house. 0.93

03:20:05.000 I mean, that's a fact.

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Alex Jones Show - June 13, 2013

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