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00:00:32.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show on this Monday, July 1st, 2013.

00:00:36.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, sitting in for Alex today.

00:00:40.000 He will be back tomorrow with some amazing guests.

00:00:43.000 And speaking of amazing guests, we've got today coming up NSA insider Wayne Madsen.

00:00:50.000 So you'll definitely want to stay tuned into that.

00:00:52.000 He has been leaking documents that are now breaking news in the EU, showing that the United States government, well, the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI, I don't know if you can really call them the government, maybe the shadow government, has been bugging the embassies, the diplomats, basically all communications, going back to EU countries.

00:01:15.000 So, that's big news, big breaking news, and I think the Guardian pulled their story on that after publishing it, so there's some controversy there already.

00:01:24.000 We'll talk to Wayne Madsen later on in the show about that issue.

00:01:28.000 Also coming up today in the, well, actually just at the bottom of this hour, we've got Greg Caton.

00:01:34.000 He is a resident of Ecuador.

00:01:37.000 He was kidnapped by the U.S.

00:01:39.000 State Department at gunpoint in Ecuador, was illegally extradited.

00:01:44.000 You can't even really use the word extradited because that implies a legal process.

00:01:47.000 He was kidnapped, actually, out of Ecuador, flown back to the United States and thrown in prison for two years.

00:01:54.000 And it turns out that the United States of America actually has a routine habit of kidnapping Americans that they want to kidnap in Ecuador.

00:02:04.000 And the reason that's relevant right now is because, of course, Ed Snowden is seeking asylum in Ecuador and 14 other countries at the moment, according to recent press on DrudgeReport.com today, 15 countries on his list of possible asylum destinations.

00:02:20.000 So what happens if Ed Snowden ends up in Ecuador And then the U.S.

00:02:24.000 government just decides to kidnap him like they did Greg Caton.

00:02:27.000 Well, we're going to find out by talking to Mr. Caton today.

00:02:31.000 Get more information about how that actually works and how lawless and insane it really is.

00:02:36.000 Now on the world news front, by the way, we've just got a ton of news today on so many fronts.

00:02:41.000 Health, politics, finance, you name it.

00:02:43.000 And that's the reason I only have two guests today because it's just so much news to cover.

00:02:48.000 We've got, of course, The big Egyptian protest, the biggest civil protest in the history of the world, according to some press reports, happening right now.

00:02:58.000 They're trying to throw, I believe his name is Mohamed Morsi, out of office there.

00:03:03.000 The recently elected leader of Egypt following the uprising against the former dictator.

00:03:10.000 It's a big deal.

00:03:11.000 We're talking about millions of people in the streets right now, and we're talking about the potential for armed conflict.

00:03:17.000 So it could break out into an actual civil war, a shooting war in Egypt.

00:03:21.000 That could happen in just the next few days.

00:03:23.000 Now I know the U.S.

00:03:25.000 press doesn't tend to cover those things very much, but it's something that you need to know about.

00:03:29.000 Now in the United States today, one of the big issues that's happening is right here, just a few miles from where I sit here at the InfoWars studio, You've got Texas debating abortion limits and a big rally.

00:03:43.000 Well, two big competing rallies are now forming at the Capitol building just a few miles from here.

00:03:49.000 And you've got police officers in riot gear on horseback.

00:03:56.000 And they're setting up massive barricades all around the state capitol.

00:04:00.000 They brought in police in riot gear from Houston, because apparently the Austin police force wasn't large enough, so they had to ship them in from Houston.

00:04:10.000 I guess, are they expecting some kind of a, are they expecting the pro-choice people to have a mad rush into the Capitol and have a coup or something?

00:04:19.000 I mean, I'm not sure what's all the police all about, but things are heating up over there.

00:04:24.000 The Democrats not happy that they can't kill babies after 20 weeks, 20 weeks of pregnancy.

00:04:31.000 They want to have the right to make sure they can terminate that baby's life at 21 weeks, 24 weeks, 28 weeks, you name it. 0.98

00:04:39.000 Hey, they want to kill the baby after it's born and call it post-birth abortion. 1.00

00:04:44.000 So they are rallying to protect their, quote, right to kill babies that are Already, you know, humans, of course. 0.96

00:04:55.000 I mean, viable human beings whose lives are protected under the Constitution.

00:05:02.000 So that's what's going on right now.

00:05:03.000 We'll be right back after this break with all that breaking news, all those guests, and much more.

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00:08:35.000 Bye.

00:08:36.000 All right, welcome to the show.

00:08:37.000 This is Monday, July 1st, 2013.

00:08:39.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:08:41.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex today.

00:08:45.000 Alex will be back tomorrow.

00:08:46.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:08:48.000 We've got for the next three hours just astonishing news that you can't miss.

00:08:53.000 And let me just give you an example of what we're talking about.

00:08:55.000 And we also have some great guests coming on, including Wayne Madsen, NSA insider, who's been breaking news all over the world.

00:09:03.000 So he'll be joining us in the second hour.

00:09:05.000 But check this out, the Department of Defense is creating a copy of all of us in an alternate reality, well a virtual reality, to find out how long you can go without food or water or how you will respond to televised propaganda, writes the Register.

00:09:22.000 It turns out that the DOD is developing a massive, what they call a sentient world simulation.

00:09:31.000 They're creating a massive psyop simulator in a complex computer system to simulate the decisions of every sentient being on the planet.

00:09:41.000 They're actually going to populate it with, you know, seven billion little sentient programs or whatever the actual number is, to find out how you're going to react to their psychological operations.

00:09:53.000 So then they're going to test in the simulation what would happen if they did a false flag attack, for example.

00:09:59.000 How would you react?

00:10:00.000 They're going to test what would happen if they dumped more fluoride into the water and dumbed everybody down a little more.

00:10:06.000 They're going to test probably chemtrail attacks, biological weapons, rolling out more liberal propaganda like making you think the family is bad.

00:10:18.000 And that the only people that should have rights are undocumented immigrants, or people who are not heterosexual, gays, or, you know, they're going to test every possible agenda they can think of in this simulator. 0.91

00:10:34.000 So that's just the start of the kind of news that we're going to get into today.

00:10:39.000 This simulator, the Sentient World Simulator, replicates financial institutions Media outlets and even street corner shops.

00:10:47.000 It applies theories of economics and human psychology and its developers believe they can predict how individuals and mobs will respond to various stressors.

00:10:58.000 Well isn't that just delightful?

00:11:01.000 So now we're going to have a PSYOP simulator run by the Department of Defense.

00:11:07.000 And need I remind you, by the way, that Google and NASA Remember, Google has ties to the NSA.

00:11:15.000 NASA, part of the federal government, obviously, has just purchased a 512-qubit quantum computer that operates in multiple physical dimensional realities.

00:11:26.000 I mean, this is science fiction becoming real.

00:11:31.000 A 512-qubit quantum computer from a company called D-Wave has just been purchased.

00:11:36.000 Now, a quantum computer is Well, pardon the pun, the metaphor, but literally, quantum leaps above the processing capability of a normal CPU like you might have in your home computer or even the supercomputer.

00:11:52.000 Quantum computers operate in multiple dimensions and they will allow these computing systems to achieve things like Easy speech recognition, visual recognition.

00:12:03.000 They will allow robots to have tactical thinking, to have reasoning skills, to be able to outthink human beings.

00:12:10.000 There's the article, it's in Scientific American.

00:12:12.000 Google and NASA snap up quantum computer called D-Wave 2.

00:12:16.000 I wrote about this on Natural News last week.

00:12:19.000 It's a big deal.

00:12:20.000 Because, and I'm going to talk about this later in the show, We are entering an era that is called the rise of the machines.

00:12:28.000 Now Alex spoke about this last week and he was right on about it.

00:12:32.000 His analysis is 100% correct.

00:12:33.000 I'm going to add to that analysis today and tell you why the future doesn't need most of you.

00:12:39.000 I know that's shocking to hear, but the rise of robots with quantum computing processing units is going to make most human labor obsolete.

00:12:52.000 And that's going to mean that we're going to have five or six billion people on the planet that the globalists no longer need.

00:13:00.000 So we'll get into that in more detail.

00:13:03.000 You can only imagine what that means in terms of population control and mass soft kill, genocide, the Holocaust 2.0 that's going to be coming in the next few decades. 0.94

00:13:13.000 But let's move on to other news in the meantime.

00:13:15.000 We'll get back to that because that's more of an in-depth topic.

00:13:17.000 Russian forces To provide security at U.S.

00:13:21.000 events.

00:13:21.000 This is a top story on InfoWars.com right now.

00:13:24.000 Paul Joseph Watson wrote this.

00:13:26.000 Check this out.

00:13:27.000 FEMA signs a deal with the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry to quote, exchange experts.

00:13:36.000 Yeah, we're going to exchange some experts so that Russian officials can provide security at mass events in the United States.

00:13:45.000 Oh yeah.

00:13:47.000 So the sellout of U.S.

00:13:49.000 sovereignty continues.

00:13:51.000 And of course, FEMA would love to do it.

00:13:53.000 FEMA, of course, the agency that likes to go door-to-door confiscating people's guns every time there's a hurricane or a flood or a tornado.

00:14:01.000 First thing they do is say, hey, let's take your guns.

00:14:04.000 Take your guns away.

00:14:05.000 Now we're going to have apparently Russian troops coming in to assist FEMA with that effort.

00:14:12.000 There was a press release released by the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense And the U.S.

00:14:19.000 officials, they met on June 25th at the 17th Joint U.S.-Russia Cooperation Committee on Emergency Situations, and they said they're going to quote exchange experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters.

00:14:32.000 Oh, you mean like major disasters that the U.S.

00:14:34.000 government causes?

00:14:36.000 The ones that they make happen?

00:14:41.000 I'm not saying that every hurricane or tornado or fire is caused by the government, but they can certainly set off their own disaster, such as an epidemic, a release of a bioweapon, a self-replicating weapon that could cause a national disaster.

00:14:59.000 And then they call in the Russians.

00:15:01.000 You know, it's funny, because Steve Quayle has been talking about this for many years.

00:15:05.000 If you go to Steve Quayle's website, stevequayle.com, He's always got headlines that talk about, oh, the Russian troops coming in.

00:15:12.000 That they're already positioned, he says.

00:15:14.000 They're already positioned in key places all around the country.

00:15:18.000 Not a lot of people are talking about that, but now here's further proof in this story that FEMA wants Russian troops to come in and take over in emergency situations.

00:15:27.000 So, see, there you go.

00:15:29.000 There you go.

00:15:30.000 It's all happening right before our very eyes.

00:15:32.000 Now another story up on InfoWars.com by Kit Daniels, one of the newer members of the writing team here.

00:15:39.000 ATF is arming robbers in hatched plots Leaving many dead.

00:15:45.000 Now this is a huge breaking story and I think it was USA Today.

00:15:48.000 Yeah, USA Today did a big in-depth investigation.

00:15:51.000 Oh my God!

00:15:52.000 USA Today was involved in actual journalism!

00:15:56.000 I'm impressed!

00:15:57.000 I'm impressed!

00:15:58.000 I think they did a good job with this one.

00:15:58.000 I love it!

00:16:00.000 So the story is like this.

00:16:02.000 ATF agents are setting up these honeypot operations, sting operations, to ensnare would-be armed robbers to say, hey, let's go hit this drug distribution House, where they've got a bunch of weed, or a bunch of smack, or whatever, and they have a lot of cash.

00:16:23.000 Let's, let's go hit them. 0.99

00:16:25.000 Let's bring in some guns, you know, shoot a few people, tie up everybody else, take their smack, take their cash, and, and they've got undercover footage showing this. 0.98

00:16:37.000 Well, and it turns out that these little honeypot operations have so far left seven people dead.

00:16:46.000 Because the ATF is going out there and recruiting people who bring guns to the sting and lead starts flying and people end up dead.

00:16:57.000 And so not everybody in the court system is happy about all of this.

00:17:01.000 In fact, they're saying it's a clear case of entrapment.

00:17:05.000 That in fact, one or two federal judges here is on the record, you have to look at the story on Infowars.com, ATF arming robbers is the first headline, that some judges are saying that this is entrapment, this is not legitimate, the ATF is running around recruiting these people and practically making them do this.

00:17:24.000 Well, we know the FBI does the same thing!

00:17:27.000 The FBI plans most of the terror plots that they then foil in the United States.

00:17:33.000 That was right out of the New York Times!

00:17:35.000 The FBI plans the attack.

00:17:37.000 Remember, they planned an attack to blow up a bridge in Cleveland.

00:17:41.000 They planned an attack to fly, what was it, a drone into the Pentagon, I think, or the White House.

00:17:47.000 The FBI comes up with these plots, and then they run around finding these low IQ, mentally impaired individuals, who are usually substance addicted.

00:17:56.000 They give them a few beers, they give them some weed, they give them whatever, to get them on board to say, yeah, you drive the van, you fly the drone, you set the bombs, whatever, we'll give you more weed, we'll give you more beer, more alcohol, more cash.

00:18:09.000 And then at the very last minute, the FBI, oh, catches these terrorists!

00:18:15.000 Oh, really?

00:18:16.000 Well, they weren't terrorists until the FBI put the plans in their hands.

00:18:21.000 They weren't just bums on the street, okay?

00:18:23.000 Harmless bums sitting on the street until the FBI came along and recruited them to become terrorists so that the FBI could then claim it's stopping terrorism. 0.99

00:18:34.000 And what kind of terrorism is it stopping?

00:18:37.000 The terrorist That it comes up with!

00:18:40.000 So, the ATF is now joining the FBI in this little scheme here.

00:18:45.000 Now, I watched some of that video, by the way.

00:18:47.000 It is freaky!

00:18:48.000 You got this African-American dude in there, sitting in that car, talking about how he's gonna cap everybody, and how he's done it a million times before, and how he's so cool, and how he does it high on drugs to make sure that he's clear-headed. 0.98

00:19:00.000 This is what he says in the car!

00:19:02.000 This is on the video!

00:19:04.000 I'm just like, wow!

00:19:06.000 Man!

00:19:06.000 No wonder I carry a Glock all the time.

00:19:09.000 I mean, people like that come in, I'm going to let loose on them.

00:19:15.000 And no wonder I don't run a drug distribution house.

00:19:18.000 That's not a good career move, if you want to stay alive, by the way.

00:19:23.000 Let's move on to some other news.

00:19:25.000 I'm sorry, I've got to move faster.

00:19:26.000 We've got so much crazy news, but it's all so insane at every level.

00:19:30.000 We've got single women's insurance premiums for health insurance are going to double in California. 1.00

00:19:35.000 That's thanks to Obamacare.

00:19:37.000 Yeah.

00:19:37.000 Thank you, Obama, for your gift to single women.

00:19:40.000 Make them pay twice what they used to pay into the monopoly-run health insurance exchanges that have now been mandated by the same Supreme Court that says same-sex couples can marry each other.

00:19:55.000 We'll talk about that in another minute when we come back.

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00:24:35.000 Let's go to the next insane story.

00:24:37.000 Clorox has unleashed a hate speech ad campaign smearing fathers. 0.91

00:24:43.000 Yes, they're attacking fathers, calling them, well, essentially the same as clueless dogs.

00:24:49.000 They're saying that fathers lack the judgment and fine motor skills to take care of children.

00:24:55.000 Compares dads to dogs in an online promotional piece called Six Mistakes That New Dads Make. 0.99

00:25:03.000 It accuses dads of being so stupid that they can't put their children's clothes on frontwards, the clothes are on backwards, and they take their babies out in the rain with short sleeves on and sit them down in front of reality TV shows like the Kardashians. 1.00

00:25:19.000 And probably just incredible. 1.00

00:25:23.000 So here we go.

00:25:26.000 Clorox has joined the bandwagon of attacking men.

00:25:29.000 And I don't know about you out there, but I'm sick of it.

00:25:32.000 I'm fed up with it.

00:25:33.000 And I'm not going to be, I'm not going to put up with it anymore. 0.99

00:25:36.000 I'm going to talk about this because if Clorox had said these very same things about blacks or women or gays, They would have been blasted, they would have marches on their headquarters, they would have been just reamed in the mainstream media, but because they chose to attack fathers, well suddenly it's all funny and it's all okay because dads are always depicted as morons. 0.97

00:26:05.000 In sitcoms, and TV shows, and movies, and the popular press, and apparently by Clorox as well. 0.96

00:26:12.000 So, I have announced over on Natural News a boycott of Burt's Bees.

00:26:18.000 You may say, wait a minute, what's Burt's Bees got to do with anything here?

00:26:22.000 Well, Clorox owns Burt's Bees.

00:26:25.000 So, I think that all dads out there should stop buying Clorox and stop buying Burt's Bees products to protest this attack, this hate speech attack against men.

00:26:38.000 And here's some of the quotes that they say.

00:26:41.000 Some fathers, men, dads have been inspired by raunchy comedies to bring babies to inappropriate places like casinos, pool halls, and poetry readings.

00:26:51.000 This is actually from Clorox.

00:26:54.000 This is hate speech against men.

00:26:59.000 Now what I'm wondering is why is this okay to always attack men?

00:27:04.000 And the answer is because the system is trying to destroy families and especially trying to destroy men. 0.99

00:27:10.000 And last week when Alex covered with Ben Fuchs on this show, The feminization of men through BPA chemicals, plastics chemicals, hormone mimickers that are just throughout the food supply, throughout food packaging.

00:27:27.000 He hit on something that's very true that the White House is denying.

00:27:31.000 That these chemicals tend to feminize males.

00:27:34.000 So you've got the male population in America is shifting towards a metro-sexual kind of stance, a feminization, where they're no longer willing to stand up for any of their rights.

00:27:45.000 And that's part of the agenda, I think, is to get men to not stand up for their rights. 0.68

00:27:50.000 Men are supposed to be the warrior archetype.

00:27:55.000 Protectors of the family.

00:27:56.000 Part of the family unit working in cooperation with their wives to raise healthy children. 1.00

00:28:02.000 But now the system wants to say, well, men are morons and only women can change diapers. 1.00

00:28:07.000 And that's what Clorox has jumped on to. 1.00

00:28:09.000 And of course, they heard an earful from men who were tired of being smeared for being men.

00:28:16.000 And they pulled that campaign off of the Internet.

00:28:19.000 But of course, we linked to it, a cached version of it, so you can still see what it says.

00:28:24.000 But this is a kind of sexism.

00:28:28.000 And I'm wondering, when is the civil rights movement for men going to be formed?

00:28:35.000 When is that going to take off?

00:28:36.000 And when is the civil rights movement for maligned Caucasians going to take off? 0.58

00:28:43.000 Because today it is apparently okay to use racial slurs, cracker, cracker this, cracker that. 0.93

00:28:52.000 Against white men, and especially against fathers as Clorox just did, it's okay to bash whites, it's okay to bash men, to blame them for everything! 0.60

00:29:01.000 Civil rights is supposed to be about all men and women are created equal, regardless of your color. 0.51

00:29:07.000 And I denounce racism, and I know that Alex does as well.

00:29:10.000 Here at Infowars, we denounce racism, we denounce corporate smear campaigns against men and against fathers, and against women.

00:29:18.000 We would jump to the same defense if they were attacking gays or women. 0.63

00:29:24.000 Or African Americans. 0.98

00:29:26.000 Because we actually believe in civil rights.

00:29:29.000 That is, that all men and women are created equal and that they all deserve equal protection and equal dignity in our culture.

00:29:37.000 So enough of the attacks on white men and fathers, Clorox. 1.00

00:29:41.000 Get it through your stinking heads. 1.00

00:29:44.000 Fire your marketing department. 1.00

00:29:45.000 And grow up and go back and read your history books.

00:29:48.000 Read Martin Luther King.

00:29:50.000 Judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin, okay?

00:29:54.000 Get it through your heads.

00:29:56.000 We're sick of it.

00:29:57.000 We've had enough of it.

00:29:58.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:59.000 We're on the march.

00:30:00.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:08.000 I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

00:33:29.000 Thomas Jefferson I refuse to be censored and silenced by the bigots out there who say that anything that a white man says criticizing the position or the policy of a black president is automatically racist. 1.00

00:33:50.000 I refuse to play that stupid mind game. 1.00

00:33:53.000 Alright? 1.00

00:33:55.000 We're going to lay it out straight in every case and we're going to fight for the civil rights of everybody regardless of their skin color, regardless of their religion.

00:34:04.000 I mean, this is a libertarian principle, that we think you should be free to live your life with minimum intervention, or the least government intervention possible.

00:34:13.000 Even if I don't agree with your position, or your religion, or even your sexual orientation, I'm not going to go out there and push my beliefs on you, but at the same time, I don't want you to push your beliefs on me.

00:34:27.000 It's a two-way street.

00:34:28.000 You gotta respect and tolerate each other and have dignity for each other.

00:34:34.000 That's the way it works.

00:34:35.000 So, when I criticize an Obama policy, that's not racism, people.

00:34:41.000 That's me criticizing a policy or a behavior or a speech or a decision of a person.

00:34:48.000 It's not racism just because he happens to have more skin pigmentation. 0.98

00:34:51.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

00:34:54.000 I mean, come on. 0.93

00:34:55.000 You know, part of the problem, and by the way, we've got Greg Kayton coming up in just a second here.

00:35:00.000 To talk about the U.S.

00:35:01.000 government kidnapping Americans in Ecuador.

00:35:03.000 But part of the problem is that we have gone past the threshold where most Americans can actually parse language, where you can actually communicate to them at a linguistic level of sufficient cognitive understanding, grasping the concepts that are trying to be discussed.

00:35:20.000 And I think a great example of this was defense witness at the Zimmerman trial, Rachel Jeantel.

00:35:27.000 I don't know how she was brought up or what chemicals she was exposed to, but she cannot parse language.

00:35:36.000 She is illiterate. 0.85

00:35:37.000 That is not a racist comment just because she's black. 1.00

00:35:40.000 If a white woman was on the stand and did the same things, she would be illiterate. 1.00

00:35:45.000 She is a victim of the system, people. 0.98

00:35:48.000 I'm not criticizing her as a person.

00:35:50.000 I'm saying she is a victim.

00:35:52.000 Of the system, of the mass fluoride poisoning, of the heavy metals in the food, the pesticides in the food, all of the environmental chemicals that are put out there, the BPA and others, the chemtrails, are killing the brain function of people everywhere and we're starting to see that when a woman gets on the stand like that, a 19-year-old woman, and can't read! 0.95

00:36:12.000 Something is wrong with our country and she is a victim, alright?

00:36:15.000 And that's not racist to say that. 0.98

00:36:17.000 I'm defending her against the system that's trying to poison her and kill her. 0.98

00:36:21.000 It's sad.

00:36:22.000 It saddens my heart to see a 19-year-old African-American woman, Haitian, you know, Haitian heritage growing up in Miami, who can't really speak in coherent sentences.

00:36:37.000 Something is wrong with that.

00:36:39.000 We need to protect all of us, all of our children, our young girls and boys, teenagers, black, white, Asian, you name it.

00:36:46.000 We all are being victimized and poisoned by this system.

00:36:49.000 We all need protection against the global elite that are trying to kill us.

00:36:54.000 And I think she's just an example of just how bad it has gotten.

00:36:58.000 So my heart goes out to her.

00:36:59.000 I hope we can find a way to help her heal.

00:37:03.000 Let's go to our guest, Greg Caton.

00:37:06.000 Now let me give you a quick background.

00:37:07.000 He's joining us by Skype.

00:37:09.000 This is a big deal.

00:37:10.000 You know how Edward Snowden says he may be seeking asylum in Ecuador?

00:37:16.000 Well, that may not work out for him in the way that he thinks it will.

00:37:20.000 And the reason is because the U.S.

00:37:23.000 State Department has a track record of kidnapping American citizens in Ecuador who are breaking no laws whatsoever, but that America wants to bring back to America to persecute for its own political reasons.

00:37:41.000 Now, this has already happened to this gentleman, Greg Cate, and a man who I've known for many years, because I wrote about him when this happened several years ago.

00:37:49.000 He joins us by Skype now.

00:37:51.000 Thank you, Greg, and welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

00:37:54.000 Thank you for having me, Mike.

00:37:56.000 Well, it's great to have you on, Greg, and I would like you to lay out briefly the story of what happened to you, because back a couple years ago when it happened, no one believed us.

00:38:06.000 Today, people believe more of the rogue shadow operation.

00:38:10.000 So I want you to lay out what happened to you so that people can get this story and now they will believe it.

00:38:16.000 Well, actually, a kidnapping attempt was made against me in November of 2008.

00:38:25.000 So I knew they would probably try it again.

00:38:30.000 What happened is I had a business associate by the name of Dr. Neville Solomon, and these geniuses at the State Department, because I guess we're the same high gringos, we kind of stand out, kind of stood out in Guayaquil.

00:38:46.000 Actually, because I had been living there, confused him for me and actually kidnapped him and his 15-year-old son Michael and only after interviewing them and for a period of three minutes were they able to figure out oh my god we've kidnapped the wrong guy.

00:39:02.000 And when you say they were these the State Department officials or had they bribed the locals?

00:39:07.000 The protocol they normally use is and this is done all over the world by the way Most people don't know this has been codified in actually all the way to the U.S.

00:39:15.000 Supreme Court.

00:39:16.000 When I was kidnapped and brought back to the United States in Louisiana, I had a Defense attorney by the name of Randall McCain out of Lafayette, Louisiana defended me, and one of the first things he told me on the very first meeting, he says, you don't see, because I was saying, this was all illegal.

00:39:32.000 Can't you do anything about this?

00:39:34.000 It's part of my demands.

00:39:34.000 I said, no, I can't do anything about it.

00:39:35.000 The U.S.

00:39:36.000 Supreme Court has codified it.

00:39:38.000 We will kidnap anybody, anywhere we want, for any reason, We don't need a justification.

00:39:46.000 All this talk about extradition, this and extradition, that and political asylum, it's all smoke and mirrors.

00:39:51.000 I gotta tell you right now, it's all smoke and mirrors.

00:39:53.000 This is big breaking news right now.

00:39:57.000 Sorry about the delay if I'm talking over you because you're joining us from Ecuador.

00:40:00.000 A little bit of delay in the Skype, but this is big breaking news, folks.

00:40:04.000 Not only is the United States government running death squads that we know assassinate people like Breitbart and Michael Hastings.

00:40:13.000 And many others.

00:40:14.000 Gary Webb, I think, was another case.

00:40:16.000 They are also running globally kidnapping schemes against innocent Americans like you, Greg.

00:40:24.000 Because, again, you were engaged in selling a rainforest herbal topical salve, like a skin cream, that was perfectly legal to sell in Ecuador.

00:40:34.000 You were breaking no laws whatsoever.

00:40:36.000 We still do.

00:40:36.000 That's the whole thing about it.

00:40:37.000 We still do.

00:40:40.000 You know, we sell Amazonian medicinal herbs all over the world.

00:40:46.000 It was never illegal.

00:40:47.000 In fact, actually not even the overt reason that they claimed they were kidnapping.

00:40:52.000 They said it was because of a probation violation.

00:40:54.000 And the truth is that I had someone, while I was in prison the first time, an employee who embezzled over $20,000.

00:41:02.000 Uh, from us, and after I got out, I did an audit of our books and discovered it all, and when she found out that I was gonna go to the authorities, she immediately went and started, uh, talking to prosecutors, trying to get my probation revoked with the, the, under the logic that, well, if I can put this guy away in prison, no matter how many criminal acts I committed, I'll be able to get it all covered up, and I'll even get, uh, the support of prosecutors.

00:41:24.000 So you were set up?

00:41:26.000 Oh, completely set up.

00:41:27.000 And I knew it was being set up.

00:41:28.000 So here I am in a room in downtown Guayaquil with the guy that's right under President Correa at the time it was the fellow who was the Minister of Government and his name was Gustavo Lorea.

00:41:39.000 I'm sitting there with him and I'm sitting with the governor of Guaya province and people who don't know much about Ecuador, Guaya province out of the 24 provinces in Ecuador, it is the wealthiest, it is the center of commerce.

00:41:52.000 Guayaquil is like the New York City of Ecuador.

00:41:56.000 It's far more influential.

00:41:57.000 It's like, it's, you know, it's the 800 pound gorilla commercially speaking in the Ecuadorian economy.

00:42:03.000 So, and they're assuring me, giving, you know, telling me, do you really believe, as if I'm an insane person, right?

00:42:10.000 As if I must be insane for suggesting that over something as insignificant as a probation violation, which I didn't commit in the first place, by the way, which was supposedly that I was making H3O, the product that I was manufacturing, that I had in The United States.

00:42:33.000 It's one step away from saying, we need to kidnap this guy.

00:42:37.000 We're the United States government.

00:42:40.000 This guy has an overdue parking ticket.

00:42:42.000 We need to kidnap him and bring him back.

00:42:43.000 He's overdue. 0.62

00:42:44.000 We're going to get that $50.

00:42:45.000 But they did.

00:42:47.000 And by the way, back your microphone off your mouth a little bit.

00:42:50.000 Getting a little static there.

00:42:51.000 A little hot.

00:42:52.000 But they did come kidnap you, which astonished the Ecuadorian officials.

00:42:57.000 I know Correa himself was jaw-droppingly astonished that the U.S.

00:43:02.000 would violate international law, would actually bring agents in there to conduct an armed operation against you in your own driveway to kidnap you, take you out of the country illegally, while at the same time people like Obama accuse Hong Kong of violating the rule of law for not turning over Edward Snowden. 0.86

00:43:18.000 I mean, what hypocrisy! 0.88

00:43:20.000 Well, it's beyond hypocrisy.

00:43:22.000 On April 17th of 2012, there was a committee here.

00:43:27.000 It's an immigration committee that decides difficult cases.

00:43:30.000 And what the ruling of the Ecuadorian government was, is that what happened to me was completely without legal foundation, which is kind of a sweet, euphemistic way of saying, hey, United States government, you were rogues, you committed a rogue operation, and everything you did to this man is illegal.

00:43:45.000 Now, what's the proof of that?

00:43:47.000 I'm just kind of saying this on your... What is the proof of that?

00:43:49.000 Well, the proof of that is that I'm here because in any country in the world, if you are deported for felony, any kind of felony, if you're deported, you're not coming back.

00:43:56.000 You're not welcome back in a country that once you've been deported for legal reasons, so the... What they did is they... All the mention of my deportation and the records of the Ecuadorian government have been completely expunged.

00:44:09.000 Why?

00:44:10.000 Because it was illegal.

00:44:11.000 In fact, you are an entrepreneur, a very successful one, I would say, who is, in fact, helping the Ecuadorian economy, bringing value to their rainforest, the renewable resources, the medicinal resources that people are being paid to harvest, and your company is packaging them and shipping them out.

00:44:32.000 You're bringing jobs and also exporting health products To the other nations of the world that don't have the climate to have a rainforest.

00:44:41.000 I mean, you should be given a medal or something by Correa for a humanitarian award for what you're doing.

00:44:49.000 I mean, seriously.

00:44:50.000 Correa's got a tough job.

00:44:52.000 Yeah, I know.

00:44:52.000 I'm just saying you're a good guy.

00:44:54.000 You're not a criminal guy.

00:44:56.000 Right, and the very fact that... And then, the other proof, people sometimes raise their eyebrow when I say that Everything that was put on, when I was put on the Interpol red list and my name was uh... Oh yeah, I want to talk about Interpol.

00:45:10.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:12.000 You know Osama, my first cousin?

00:45:13.000 Osama bin Laden.

00:45:14.000 Right, they had your face right next to Osama bin Laden and other like serial killers and war criminals. 0.52

00:45:20.000 The State Department managed to get you put on Interpol.

00:45:24.000 The proof that everything that the FDA and Interpol said was completely false is the fact that I'm here because I had my passport renewed in August of 2011, if I'd had any kind of pending...

00:45:38.000 criminal charge that is even closely remotely similar to the things that the FDA and Interpol were saying that they wouldn't have even renewed my passport.

00:45:48.000 Anyone who's ever gotten a passport knows you can't even be arrears on your child support payments now and get a United States passport, let alone have, you know, the criminal charges for hurting people with, you know, because you're... No, but they got their pound of flesh out of you because they put you in prison For, what was it, almost two years in Louisiana?

00:46:10.000 Well, the total time was 21 months.

00:46:12.000 You know, they give you 15% off, they give you a fig leaf for a good time.

00:46:17.000 So they put you in prison, and you had to do the prison time, and then when you got out, they renewed your passport, and you went back to Ecuador, and Ecuador welcomed you back in, and there you are now running an admirable business yet again.

00:46:30.000 Correct.

00:46:31.000 It's incredible.

00:46:32.000 I think what we see, what disturbs me, and I don't know that this has really been Even conveyed to your audience the rapidity with which it's getting worse.

00:46:40.000 Now, for instance, in my case, at least, I can say I had the privilege of having a kangaroo court.

00:46:46.000 It was all nonsense.

00:46:46.000 The State Department is there basically dictating to the Ecuadorian judge just exactly how to violate the law.

00:46:52.000 And by the way, I don't know what's ever happened to that judge, but I know that They'll never disclose to me what disciplinary measures they took against the people who were paid off on this side to do this.

00:47:05.000 Greg, I want to make sure we get to the other kidnappings that are taking place.

00:47:10.000 Yeah, let's talk about James Martin Malone.

00:47:13.000 This is a guy who, unlike myself, James Martin Malone was a guy, he's a few years younger than myself, I think he's something like 54 now.

00:47:21.000 Anyways, in 1990, roughly 23 years ago, Marty was doing a job for somebody, he was transporting things along in his car, and he got caught up in some kind of drug bust for transporting drugs.

00:47:39.000 And the prosecutor has since admitted, there's really no evidence that this guy ever knew, had conscious knowledge, that of all the things he had in his car, it included cocaine.

00:47:49.000 Make a long story short, guy gets 22 years and finds a way to get out, or maybe he's on bail, I can't remember, but he gets to Ecuador.

00:47:58.000 And he lives here safely for a period of 22 years.

00:48:02.000 And by the way, this was big news down in Ecuador.

00:48:05.000 I knew this guy personally.

00:48:06.000 His wife was the general manager of one of my companies.

00:48:09.000 So what happened?

00:48:10.000 an Ecuadorian company that I had.

00:48:11.000 So I'm very, very intimate.

00:48:13.000 This is not hearsay.

00:48:14.000 This is not because I read it in the paper down here.

00:48:16.000 This is somebody I know, I knew.

00:48:18.000 We ate lunch together regularly, and his wife-- - So what happened?

00:48:21.000 What did they do? - This guy gets into a tiff with his wife. 0.97

00:48:25.000 I guess they were separated or something.

00:48:27.000 And she knew that he had legal issues back in the United States.

00:48:30.000 So he gets ahold of local officials there in Santa Elena, Provincia de Santa Elena, and they pick him up, stick him on a plane, and take him back.

00:48:39.000 No law, no judge, no court, no nothing.

00:48:42.000 All this talk I hear about, well, you know, Ecuador, they don't have an extradition treaty with the United States.

00:48:47.000 It's all nonsense.

00:48:49.000 It's all nonsense.

00:48:49.000 What we're seeing globally is a pattern of complete lawlessness, where the United States government will do anything it wants, violate any law it wants.

00:48:58.000 I mean, Obama's got secret kill lists, I guess they're not even that secret anymore, of Americans that he's going to have killed.

00:49:05.000 Drone strikes on civilian weddings and parties all over the Middle East, killing women and children.

00:49:13.000 And now we've got that it has come out that the U.S.

00:49:16.000 government is spying on its EU allies.

00:49:20.000 You know, the United States is getting a reputation for being a lawless, rogue nation.

00:49:26.000 Kind of like the way we used to think of North Korea.

00:49:28.000 That's what we're seeing here.

00:49:29.000 I mean, and we see it in many different ways.

00:49:31.000 And by the way, I'm not saying anything that's counter to...

00:49:34.000 The official message of the Ecuadorian government.

00:49:36.000 You hear President Correa, I mean, he gives a weekly address here on Saturdays.

00:49:39.000 You remember that, right, Mike?

00:49:41.000 Yeah, yeah, I remember listening to some of that.

00:49:43.000 And, you know, he's constantly railing.

00:49:45.000 On the one hand, you know, it's not that Ecuador is in any kind of unfriendly posture to the United States.

00:49:51.000 You know, there's a very... Ecuadorians go to Miami all the time.

00:49:55.000 I mean, there's trade back and forth.

00:49:58.000 There's very good feelings, but it's like...

00:50:01.000 The relationship between Ecuador and the United States is kind of like the wife who says to her husband, you will not disrespect me. 0.99

00:50:07.000 You're not going to call me a bitch. 0.98

00:50:09.000 If you fight with me, you're going to fight fair. 0.98

00:50:11.000 You're going to respect my feelings.

00:50:13.000 You're going to respect my opinions and you're not going to disrespect me.

00:50:15.000 You know, it's that kind of a thing.

00:50:16.000 And so you constantly have this thing.

00:50:19.000 It's not like Ecuador is saying, you know, we hate the United States.

00:50:24.000 Sure.

00:50:24.000 But Cray has made it very, very easy.

00:50:26.000 You know, he's a graduate, as you know, of the University of Illinois in economics.

00:50:30.000 He calls himself a half gringo.

00:50:32.000 He prefers himself kind of a Let's bring it back to Snowden though, Greg.

00:50:40.000 What would happen if Snowden, if Ed Snowden goes to Ecuador to seek asylum there, I want your assessment of what exactly would happen to him there, because it is very likely that the Ecuadorian government cannot protect him.

00:50:55.000 From, let's say, a U.S. 0.92

00:50:56.000 Navy SEAL team or something like that, if the U.S.

00:50:58.000 really wants to get them.

00:50:59.000 But let's talk about that when we come back with Greg Caton, the Amazon Rainforest herbal formulator who was kidnapped by U.S.

00:51:08.000 State Department authorities.

00:51:09.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:18.000 This is the Alex Jones Show, and we have an exclusive interview with a man who was kidnapped from Ecuador by the United States government over the crime of selling medicinal herbal products that help people get healthier, if you can believe that.

00:54:36.000 There's nothing I won't believe anymore in terms of what the government will do to oppress freedom.

00:54:42.000 So the question to you, Greg, is what would happen If Edward Snowden actually were granted asylum in Ecuador and relocated to Ecuador, do you think he would be safe there?

00:54:56.000 Could Correa's administration protect him?

00:55:00.000 Well, I can only give you my opinion based on what I've experienced here.

00:55:06.000 Others that I've known have been kidnapped and so forth.

00:55:10.000 He wouldn't have any semblance of a life that you and I would call free.

00:55:14.000 I mean, he would have to be under some kind of military, he'd have to be guarded, he'd have to... Because, uh, based on the fact that this is such, apparently, such a, uh, a big piece of theater for the U.S.

00:55:26.000 government, you had Biden down here actually telling Korea, you will not give this guy political asylum, and basically, What Correa did, this was in the news here, he was very respectful to Biden.

00:55:36.000 He said, I respect your opinions, if he ever comes to Ecuador, if he does, you will be the first ones we call to get your input on the subject, but the final decision must be ours.

00:55:46.000 That's again, it's again the thing of respect.

00:55:48.000 Respect our sovereignty, okay?

00:55:50.000 Respect that we are a sovereign nation.

00:55:52.000 So, my opinion, based on what I've seen here, one of two things would happen if he wasn't in some kind of almost a military prison with special forces protection.

00:56:03.000 One, he'd either be kidnapped, they'd pay somebody who's corrupt within the police force to kidnap him, very much like they did in my case.

00:56:11.000 You know, a la John Perkins, they're going to send in the Jackals. 0.84

00:56:14.000 It's going to be one or the other.

00:56:15.000 He's not going to have a life that you and I would call free.

00:56:17.000 Greg, Alex is joining us on the phone.

00:56:19.000 Pop in for a second for an important comment on this topic.

00:56:22.000 Stay on the line with us, Greg.

00:56:23.000 Alex, go ahead.

00:56:26.000 Welcome in the five minutes to end this segment and finish up the story with riveting radio.

00:56:31.000 I just want to put some context to this.

00:56:33.000 Can you guys hear me good?

00:56:34.000 Yeah, you're good.

00:56:35.000 Alright, I'm taking the kids fishing today.

00:56:37.000 I appreciate you doing the show.

00:56:38.000 I'm coming back to work tonight.

00:56:39.000 Look, there's an article on drugreport.com on the right-hand side.

00:56:43.000 Top story.

00:56:45.000 Russian troops and Russian security forces advise at US public events What is this about?

00:56:53.000 This is about global governance, State Department Memorandum 7277, International Treaty, where the diplomatic community, mercenaries, Interpol police can go anywhere in the world and grab anybody they want and ignore extradition laws.

00:57:13.000 And that's how Americans can be visiting Germany.

00:57:18.000 And they say the Holocaust didn't happen and they get arrested and put in prison for five years.

00:57:22.000 Now, whether you think that happened or not, I think Hitler was bad and killed a bunch of people. 0.89

00:57:26.000 They used cases like that to set the precedent, or now they're going to arrest you if you deny man-made global warming.

00:57:32.000 And they're calling for arresting us.

00:57:34.000 So this is global government where we have no rights, and these multinational globalists can even send in mercenaries.

00:57:42.000 Right.

00:57:43.000 And that's why we have Mexican troops in Katrina. 1.00

00:57:47.000 That's why U.S.

00:57:48.000 troops are in Canada for the Olympics, patrolling the streets.

00:57:52.000 Well, the same death squads, Alex, that they sent after Hastings or Breitbart or the Assassins, I mean, they are operating globally.

00:58:02.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:58:04.000 It came out in mainstream U.S.

00:58:05.000 news, the back of the paper, five years ago.

00:58:08.000 Former Latin American death squad hired by the CIA, more than 10,000 of them, were brought in to run death squads in Baghdad.

00:58:17.000 This is a global mafia that does whatever it wants.

00:58:20.000 I remember reading national news about this guy's case where the FDA just wanted to persecute somebody for selling a salve.

00:58:28.000 I mean, give me a break.

00:58:30.000 And so they went after him.

00:58:32.000 And so I want to be able to finish the story, but I think it's important for people just to know in the context of Hastings, We're going to break, Alex.

00:58:39.000 and Aaron Sports and the DC Madden and on and on and on.

00:58:44.000 Yeah, we're going to break, Alex.

00:58:45.000 We'll be back in one minute.

00:58:46.000 Sure, sir.

00:58:47.000 I'm done.

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01:00:32.000 And we're back at the top of the second hour.

01:00:33.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:35.000 Mike Adams filling in for Alex today who was just joining us in the last segment with some very important points.

01:00:42.000 We are interviewing Greg Caton and Alex mentioned how we are dealing with a global lawless mafia that will run kidnapping operations anywhere it wants in any country.

01:00:53.000 That respects no law, no sovereignty whatsoever.

01:00:56.000 Remember the work of John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, where he described exactly what they did in Central and South America to assassinate leaders, to overthrow governments, to put governments in debt to US interests.

01:01:13.000 And this kind of thing continues, and Greg Ketan joins us for the rest of this segment.

01:01:17.000 He is one of the many victims of the U.S.-run international kidnapping operations, and this is an exclusive interview here on InfoWars.com.

01:01:27.000 So Greg, before you got interrupted there, you were finishing your assessment of what you think might happen to Edward Snowden if he is granted asylum in Ecuador.

01:01:37.000 You want to finish that thought?

01:01:39.000 Yeah, it's simply that He wouldn't be a free man.

01:01:44.000 He's not going to be like, you know, if I want to leave here and I want to go down to, you know, Coffee Tree or one of the other gringo hangouts here and talk to my friends, because here in Cuenca you've got, you know, 5,000 Americans who are down here. 0.97

01:01:57.000 By the way, it would surprise you, even you, and I know you've lived here, to know how many people are flooding down here and the percentage of them that are here because of just the frightening events The U.N.

01:02:08.000 Acolytes have been reporting.

01:02:09.000 Exactly.

01:02:12.000 And, you know, I mean, I personally, just by way of example, I personally, this is a very close person, I personally know of a rancher in Montana that moved down here because he went hunting and he ran into a railroad spur and saw with his own eyes.

01:02:29.000 What the hell is this?

01:02:30.000 He found boxcars three levels high, shackles all around the perimeter. 0.68

01:02:34.000 Every other boxcar had a guillotine in it.

01:02:37.000 And of course, you know, he's just got this huge, gigantic WTF going on in the back of his mind.

01:02:42.000 He got out.

01:02:44.000 We keep hearing these rumors of guillotines, and I don't know why.

01:02:47.000 I mean, doesn't anybody have pictures or something?

01:02:51.000 Well, there's YouTubes of them.

01:02:53.000 Just type in guillotine and use the...

01:02:55.000 YouTube filters for the last month.

01:02:58.000 There's there is more of them surfacing.

01:02:58.000 There's more.

01:03:00.000 Yes. 0.64

01:03:00.000 I'm not sure I can even spell it because according to the Clorox Corporation, I'm a retard since I'm a male. 0.64

01:03:05.000 Oh, I know. 0.94

01:03:06.000 It's getting ridiculous.

01:03:08.000 But people, I think the most important message as it pertains to my case, as it pertains to the case of James Martin Malone, who was taken from here without even so much as seeing any official.

01:03:19.000 I just grabbed him and took him, you know, mafia style.

01:03:22.000 The most important thing is for people to know that any time you see the word extradition, it's part of a non-existent mythology.

01:03:29.000 It's a mythology.

01:03:30.000 We don't have extraditions anymore.

01:03:31.000 We have kidnappings.

01:03:32.000 They're not extraditions.

01:03:34.000 It's a shadow system of injustice that operates in parallel with the delusional fake justice system that's just for show for the public.

01:03:43.000 But underneath it all, there's this shadow rogue system of criminal mafia global government.

01:03:47.000 That's what's really running the show.

01:03:50.000 You know what?

01:03:51.000 They know that down here.

01:03:52.000 They know that down here.

01:03:53.000 You know, there's... You know, I haven't met any officials and I've...

01:03:59.000 They know what's going on.

01:04:00.000 You know, I met, I'm not going to say his name on the air because he's well-known here.

01:04:04.000 He very closely became the President of Ecuador himself.

01:04:07.000 He is currently one of Korea's ministers.

01:04:10.000 And I was up in his office and he took me to his conference room, which he and I alone.

01:04:15.000 No security people, none of his subordinates, nobody.

01:04:17.000 Just he and I. You've got one minute left.

01:04:21.000 Okay, anyways, long and short of it, as he said to me, you know, we know this is going on.

01:04:25.000 He compared my case, I was actually stunned, to St.

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01:04:28.000 John of the Cross.

01:04:32.000 John of the Cross wrote the most magnificent literature ever penned in the Spanish language.

01:04:37.000 So, they know that the prison system in the U.S.

01:04:40.000 is very hokey.

01:04:41.000 They know it, and they express it in a variety of ways.

01:04:44.000 The website for Greg Kayton is HerbHealers.com.

01:04:48.000 Did I get that right, Greg?

01:04:49.000 Right.

01:04:50.000 H-E-R-B and then Healers.com.

01:04:52.000 Okay.

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01:05:02.000 Greg, best to you.

01:05:03.000 Stay safe.

01:05:04.000 Keep us posted if any more action happens in Ecuador, all right?

01:05:08.000 Very well.

01:05:08.000 Will do.

01:05:09.000 Thank you.

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01:08:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:32.000 All right, continuing with the Alex Jones Show, this is the second hour.

01:08:36.000 We just finished up an interview with Greg Caton, an American citizen who was kidnapped at gunpoint in Ecuador by the rogue United States government that runs like a global mafia, running kidnapping and assassination squads everywhere in the world, including domestically in the United States.

01:08:55.000 If you think Michael Hastings' car just blew up for no reason, you know, you probably need to rethink that.

01:09:05.000 We've got a clip here that we want to go to from an interview with Julian Assange, who was all of a sudden back in the news headlining a lot of news reports because of Of course, the Ed Snowden situation.

01:09:17.000 Check out this interview, this segment.

01:09:20.000 Let's go to the 8 minute and 40 second segment of this interview, guys.

01:09:24.000 Go ahead and roll that.

01:09:25.000 Look, there is no stopping the publishing process at this stage.

01:09:30.000 Great care has been taken to make sure that Mr. Snowden can't be pressured by any state.

01:09:38.000 To stop the publication process I mean the United States by canceling his passport has left him for the for the moment Marooned in Russia.

01:09:51.000 Is that really a great outcome by the State Department?

01:09:54.000 Is that really what it wanted to do?

01:09:56.000 I think that's every citizen has the right to their citizenship and To take someone's principal component of citizenship, their passport, away from them is a disgrace.

01:10:08.000 Mr Snowden hasn't been convicted of anything.

01:10:11.000 There are no international warrants out for his arrest.

01:10:15.000 To take a passport from a young man in a difficult situation like that is a disgrace.

01:10:20.000 He is a hero.

01:10:21.000 He has told people of the world... So there we go, that's the part I wanted to roll there.

01:10:27.000 A couple of important points there.

01:10:28.000 Number one, the State Department takes away Snowden's passport, marooning him, says Assange, in the Russian airport, and then the State Department accuses Russia of holding on to him.

01:10:41.000 Well, it's the State Department that took his passport away, making it impossible for him to travel.

01:10:47.000 So once again, the government is causing the problem that it's accusing Snowden of, or Russia of causing.

01:10:55.000 So, and the other thing here is that Assange says that Snowden's information will get out, that it cannot be stopped.

01:11:04.000 This is crucial because what you are witnessing here is a global war, an info war at the highest levels between truth tellers, citizens, global citizens who want to expose the darkest secrets of how government is actually run.

01:11:22.000 And we're going to have Wayne Madsen, by the way, coming up in about 20 minutes to give us more details on some of the darkest secrets of how government is actually run.

01:11:32.000 They say you should never ask a sausage maker how a sausage is made, otherwise you'll never eat it.

01:11:41.000 Well, by the same token, you should never ask your government how it runs government.

01:11:46.000 Because if you knew, you'd be outraged, you'd be marching on the Capitol.

01:11:51.000 So what people like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are doing is simply bringing these facts to the surface, to give the people the transparency that Obama promised to give people, but then betrayed people over by keeping, in fact, expanding more secrets.

01:12:11.000 So Snowden wants to bring this out in the public, and he has taken steps.

01:12:17.000 This is what's important to understand.

01:12:19.000 He has taken steps to make sure that additional information will be leaked if anything happens to him.

01:12:26.000 I think he has what I might call an info dead man switch in place.

01:12:32.000 In fact, I'm 100% certain this is the case, even though I don't have any inside info on it.

01:12:38.000 If I were Snowden, I would do that.

01:12:40.000 So if anything happens to him, if he winds up dead, gets blown up in a car like Hastings, or suddenly dies from a heart attack like Breitbart the day before he was going to release some damning information on Obama, Well then, guess what?

01:12:55.000 The dead man switch is activated and probably all kinds of damning information is going to get released.

01:13:00.000 So right now, the U.S.

01:13:01.000 government needs to be thinking very carefully about how they're going to treat Edward Snowden because if they try to go after him and kill him, I think they are going to probably set in motion some things that could Result in the downfall of the current criminal administration.

01:13:18.000 Which is, of course, what Assange would probably like to see, and what Snowden would like to see, and I think many freedom lovers everywhere would like to see.

01:13:27.000 Let's go on to some other news, and we'll come back to some clips in a minute, but check this out.

01:13:31.000 The teen that was charged for wearing an NRA t-shirt has had the charges dismissed against him.

01:13:40.000 A 14-year-old student named Jared Markham, the charges have been dismissed by a judge.

01:13:44.000 He was facing one year in jail for wearing a shirt that said to protect your First Amendment.

01:13:51.000 I mean, look at the irony of that.

01:13:54.000 Arrested for saying protect our constitutional rights.

01:13:57.000 Arrested by a police officer who swore an oath to defend the Constitution.

01:14:03.000 And then arrested the teen for wearing a t-shirt that says defend the Constitution.

01:14:07.000 This is how crazy it has become.

01:14:09.000 That story is up on InfoWars.com by Paul Joseph Watson right now.

01:14:16.000 By the way, another important point about that story is that the judge imposed a gag order that would have prevented Markham from discussing anything about the case in public.

01:14:28.000 Because, of course, you can't allow someone who's wearing a t-shirt that says protect the First Amendment to have the First Amendment right.

01:14:35.000 That would just be too much freedom in America!

01:14:40.000 Too much freedom!

01:14:41.000 You can't give people too much freedom.

01:14:43.000 All right, here's another story that will blow your mind.

01:14:45.000 Again, there's no way we can even cover all this today.

01:14:48.000 Hospitals and cancer centers are now getting women drunk at mammogram parties, liquoring them up so that they can then get mammograms that give them a false diagnosis of cancer.

01:15:02.000 This is being called a form of medical date rape. 1.00

01:15:06.000 Yeah, medical date rape. 0.96

01:15:10.000 And I wouldn't be surprised if lots of women come out and defend this practice. 1.00

01:15:15.000 Yeah, we have the right to get drunk and then get irradiated with mammograms and then get dosed up with chemotherapy and have our breasts removed surgically with double mastectomies.

01:15:27.000 That's our right!

01:15:28.000 I wouldn't be surprised to find some women out there doing that. 1.00

01:15:35.000 It's just another medical abuse and exploitation of women. 1.00

01:15:39.000 Where does it end, folks?

01:15:41.000 Where does it end?

01:15:43.000 And those of us who try to speak up for women and try to speak up for civil rights and for human rights and for freedoms, we're always labeled sexist and racist.

01:15:53.000 Oh, we're so terrible!

01:15:55.000 For mentioning that everybody's rights should be equally protected.

01:16:00.000 Alright, major change coming to the security lines at Denver International Airport.

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01:16:13.000 We could offer some inappropriate jokes on this, but I'll skip it, but the dogs are apparently easy to train to sniff you in the same areas that the TSA is normally touching.

01:16:26.000 So, wow, very useful to sniff you.

01:16:30.000 And, of course, they managed to find some passengers that were raving about, oh, we love the dogs sniffing us as if we're criminals carrying drugs all the time.

01:16:38.000 All right, Colorado's gun control laws go into effect Monday!

01:16:45.000 That's today.

01:16:48.000 Either today or next week, I'll have to check it out.

01:16:51.000 So, you're not going to be able to buy guns without going through a universal background check, which means you can't even sell a gun to your own son, or family member, or father, or uncle.

01:17:02.000 And the ban on high capacity magazines, anything that holds more than 15 rounds.

01:17:08.000 So, in Colorado, now, if you have to do battle with a gang of meth heads that's coming to raid your ranch, Your rifle can only have 15 rounds in it, while the meth heads can have 30.

01:17:23.000 Or 100, even.

01:17:26.000 So, this bill is going to put law-abiding citizens at a tactical disadvantage against criminal gangs, which is, of course, the whole point of gun control.

01:17:36.000 To turn everybody into a victim.

01:17:39.000 And that story, by the way, is out of the Denver Post.

01:17:42.000 All right, a story from Ron Paul.

01:17:44.000 If you like the surveillance state, you'll love E-Verify.

01:17:48.000 Part of the government's new mandate for employers is E-Verify that requires Americans to carry a Quote, tamper-proof social security card in order to get a job.

01:18:02.000 So you got to show the card to your employer and then the employer has to verify the eligibility by running it through a federal database, which means the federal government will then have a log, a record of every person where they were on what day applying for which job.

01:18:19.000 How's that?

01:18:20.000 Isn't that wonderful?

01:18:22.000 Just more police state antics from the Obama administration.

01:18:26.000 Now the UK government has banned GMOs from Parliament, but forces them on the public.

01:18:32.000 You know how Monsanto banned GMOs from its own cafeteria?

01:18:32.000 Isn't this interesting?

01:18:36.000 And you know the global elite, they don't eat GMOs, they eat all organics.

01:18:40.000 They drink raw milk, not pasteurized processed milk, but of course they always say that the public should eat the things that they won't, because You know, the poisons have got to go somewhere.

01:18:52.000 How would they get rid of them if they didn't have people eat them all the time?

01:18:58.000 So, GMOs banned from Parliament, but still good enough for the common people.

01:19:04.000 But hey, at least Europe is, you know, banning more GMOs than the United States.

01:19:09.000 I think GMOs are required to be labeled in something like 56 countries around the world?

01:19:16.000 Something like that?

01:19:17.000 But not in America, no!

01:19:19.000 Moving on, next story, the NSA can obtain one billion cell phone calls a day and store them and listen to them.

01:19:28.000 This is more information coming out of the Guardian and Glenn Greenwald, the journalist that has been covering the Ed Snowden situation.

01:19:38.000 And, by the way, I want to talk about...

01:19:42.000 We're going to break.

01:19:42.000 We'll do that when we get back, but last piece here in this segment.

01:19:47.000 The implementation of online insurance exchanges, this is the Obamacare Insurance Exchange, could be worse than the Y2K predictions. 0.89

01:19:55.000 Y2K was a walk in the park compared to the state insurance exchanges, which are undoubtedly not going to be ready in time, which I think is October 1.

01:20:03.000 So get ready for those to crash and burn while you're trying to get your Obama mandate into health insurance.

01:20:08.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

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01:28:29.000 Now, let's move on to some other news.

01:28:31.000 HIV vaccine...

01:28:33.000 Experiment infects 41 volunteers. 0.93

01:28:37.000 So get this, the NIH certified study included 2,500 men who were having sex with other men, according to the release, or having sex with transgender individuals.

01:28:52.000 They were assigned to receive the experimental vaccine HVTN 505. 0.68

01:28:58.000 Sounds like someone's license plate.

01:29:00.000 And the other half were given a placebo.

01:29:01.000 Well, it turns out that 41 of the men who were given the vaccine actually were given HIV.

01:29:09.000 So once again, more proof that the vaccines give you the diseases that they claim to be stopping.

01:29:09.000 Wow.

01:29:18.000 And it reminds me of last year, the Merck scientists came out in a whistleblower lawsuit against Merck that said Merck knew its measles vaccines were causing measles.

01:29:31.000 That its vaccines were not effective at blocking the diseases that it claimed to block.

01:29:37.000 And so that lawsuit, I don't know where it's gone since then, but that was filed last year.

01:29:41.000 Vaccines are a vector to infect you with the disease that they claim to be blocking, okay?

01:29:48.000 If you get vaccines, you're poisoning yourself.

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01:33:29.000 We're continuing on the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:31.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:33:32.000 This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in for Alex.

01:33:36.000 He'll be back tomorrow.

01:33:38.000 He's off today, so thanks for tuning in.

01:33:42.000 We've got Wayne Madsen coming up right now.

01:33:44.000 Now, Madsen is, of course, an NSA insider.

01:33:49.000 He's got a lot of information.

01:33:50.000 He's been a frequent guest on this show, and he's been on the money, on the mark, Every time, with everything that he has said, it's all come out.

01:33:59.000 It's all come true.

01:34:00.000 And he was involved, I believe, in the leaking of information to the press in the EU that recently broke.

01:34:09.000 We'll let him clarify that if I'm wrong.

01:34:12.000 About the US government spying on its own allies, European governments.

01:34:18.000 And there's some controversy about that story, and here to help explain and navigate that is Wayne Madsen himself.

01:34:25.000 Mr. Madsen, welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:34:27.000 It's great to have you back on.

01:34:32.000 I don't think he can hear me.

01:34:32.000 Can you hear me, sir?

01:34:36.000 Can you hear me, Wayne?

01:34:37.000 I can not hear you, no.

01:34:40.000 All right, good to hear you.

01:34:41.000 Welcome to the show, sir.

01:34:43.000 Good to be with you.

01:34:44.000 Good to hear your voice.

01:34:45.000 Now, you've been spot on with your predictions, but tell us, what is the deal with, I think, The Guardian pulling its story that it initially published announcing that the U.S.

01:34:57.000 government was spying on its European allies?

01:34:58.000 What's the story behind that story?

01:35:01.000 Well, the story behind the story, unfortunately, what I told The Observer, and it's a sister newspaper, The Guardian, they're owned by the same company,

01:35:12.000 I told the reporter for The Observer, I said, look, German Chancellor Merkel and French President Hollande are crying about the fact that this cable tap was discovered because of the Ed Snowden revelations on a transatlantic 14 cable that goes from Denmark to the Netherlands to Germany to Belgium to France and then over to the UK and then to Tuckerton, New Jersey.

01:35:41.000 They said, oh, you're spying on the communications of German and French citizens.

01:35:48.000 When in fact, both these countries, Germany to a much bigger extent than France, have been engaged in providing signals intelligence data, including information tapped from submarine cables to the NSA for decades.

01:36:06.000 And it hasn't stopped.

01:36:08.000 You know, they're crying crocodile tears because what they don't want their own populations to know is that they themselves are spying on their own citizens and some of this information.

01:36:21.000 I would suggest a large part of the information is being sent to NSA that's so overwhelmed with data now they have to build a 17 football field data center in Utah that can handle one yottabyte, and don't ask me how many zeros are after that number, one yottabyte of data.

01:36:39.000 But this is why I told the Observer.

01:36:43.000 I gave them two declassified documents.

01:36:45.000 I don't have any classified documents.

01:36:47.000 I haven't worked at NSA for a long, long time.

01:36:50.000 But I also know what's declassified and what those documents meant at the time they were still classified.

01:36:57.000 What's interesting though, Wayne, is that the things that you've been saying and the declassified documents that you are able to access and acquire They suddenly have more relevance and context in the context of Ed Snowden going public with his revelation.

01:37:13.000 So now suddenly, are you finding that the press, the mainstream media, is taking you more seriously as well for the things that you've been warning on for years?

01:37:22.000 Well, to the contrary, yes.

01:37:25.000 Now, one thing about the Observer.

01:37:27.000 They contacted me.

01:37:29.000 There's been some suggestions that the Observer got their information from another blog, and I gave an interview to the person who runs that blog.

01:37:37.000 That's Simon Davies.

01:37:38.000 An old friend of mine used to head up Privacy International.

01:37:42.000 I'm still on the International Advisory Board of Privacy International, but we discussed ways to advance this story and show the hypocrisy of the French and the British in this matter. 0.98

01:37:54.000 And, you know, the Observer was contacted.

01:37:58.000 I gave an interview to Simon Davies, who put it on the privacysurgeon.com website, and then the Observer called me to verify everything I said, and I did, and they all had these declassified documents.

01:38:12.000 The Observer came back and said, look, we understand that you've written some controversial things in the past.

01:38:17.000 I said, yeah, to say the least.

01:38:19.000 I don't work at I don't work at NSA anymore.

01:38:22.000 I make my living as a journalist.

01:38:24.000 I do muckraking journalism, and that's very uncomfortable to certain chardonnay-swilling people that, you know, inhabit the expensive clubs and restaurants of Manhattan and DC.

01:38:39.000 But, you know, that's what I do for a living.

01:38:42.000 So they were aware of this.

01:38:44.000 They said they ran my quotes to the legal department of the Mail and Guardian corporate parent.

01:38:54.000 They signed off on it.

01:38:56.000 The editors signed off on it.

01:38:59.000 And then when the story hits, the Guardian, of course, put it on their website.

01:39:03.000 And then it was on the first edition, the print edition of the Observer, the Sunday Observer.

01:39:08.000 Why did they pull it off of the online edition then?

01:39:11.000 Well, they not only pulled it off the online version, but the second print run of the Observer.

01:39:18.000 They dropped my picture on the front page for one of an old and haggard looking Mick Jagger.

01:39:24.000 You know, I mean, but it was too late.

01:39:29.000 And see, I got a call saying, It's too late.

01:39:34.000 The Observer has already gone from, it's already running in the presses and it goes on to the trucks and out to what the British call the news agents.

01:39:41.000 They're the sidewalk stands and the places that sell news around Britain.

01:39:47.000 So it was out there and so it's easy to pull a website but it's very hard to pull a print edition.

01:39:54.000 You can come out with a new edition.

01:39:56.000 It cost them a lot of money to do this.

01:39:57.000 Why did they do it?

01:39:59.000 I have to figure that I created a firestorm with my revelations about the Germans and the French, because one of the biggest German newspapers, Die Welt, also put it on their website with a picture of Angela Merkel with a caption underneath also put it on their website with a picture of Angela Merkel with a caption underneath of my quote stating that Merkel complaining about spying was like the inspector Raynaud in the movie Casablanca complaining that there was

01:40:29.000 I'm shocked.

01:40:30.000 I'm shocked.

01:40:31.000 Well, that's what she did. 1.00

01:40:33.000 Well, we know Merkel.

01:40:34.000 But all of these countries, I think we just lost the connection with Wayne.

01:40:39.000 All of these countries are spying on each other to the extent that they can be.

01:40:45.000 But as Wayne Madsen was just explaining there, then they deny that they're doing any spying on their own citizens because, oh my god, you know, denial is the name of the game.

01:40:55.000 You have to deny everything.

01:40:57.000 By the way, this is a good opportunity to give out the phone number because I did want to take some calls for Wayne Madsen.

01:41:01.000 So if you'd like to call him, the number is 800-259-9231.

01:41:06.000 Yep, that's it.

01:41:10.000 800-259-9231.

01:41:11.000 And I'd like to take a couple of questions for Wayne Madsen when he gets back on here, but also I'd like to take some of your questions personally at the top of the next hour.

01:41:20.000 We're going to cover a lot more news.

01:41:22.000 We've also got a segment on the rise of the machines that I want to go through with you.

01:41:26.000 Which explains why you, why the future doesn't need you.

01:41:31.000 And in the meantime, check this out.

01:41:32.000 Facebook censorship is continuing and they censor anyone who talks about the Second Amendment, Chick-fil-A, Jesus, the NRA.

01:41:43.000 These are all key concepts that will get you banned and now Todd Starnes of Fox News reports that Facebook has blocked his postings because he posted support for the National Rifle Association.

01:41:55.000 Facebook then later apparently Apologize for blocking that.

01:42:00.000 Yeah, see they just block it by default.

01:42:02.000 And then if you're powerful enough to reach the Facebook legal team, which is very, very difficult to do, then they might, they might retract that and take off the block of your account.

01:42:14.000 But that's only after the fact.

01:42:16.000 By default, they block everything. 0.93

01:42:18.000 And Facebook, by the way, has largely degenerated into a cesspool of trolls.

01:42:25.000 And I tell you, when we post things on Facebook, the comments are so inane, they are the most It's like these people, it's like they're not real, it's like they're computer algorithm generated.

01:42:42.000 Seriously, and I think many of them are.

01:42:43.000 I think something like a third of the accounts on Facebook are actually just computer systems that are just posting nonsense based on the keywords that you put out there. 1.00

01:42:54.000 That's why they seem so stupid. 0.99

01:42:56.000 Because these algorithms are not very advanced. 1.00

01:43:02.000 In any case, we have Wayne Madsen back.

01:43:04.000 The connection is a little dicey there, but he's back with us.

01:43:07.000 So Wayne, picking up where you left off there, my question to you is, you know, why aren't the people of Germany and France thrilled that the NSA is spying on them?

01:43:18.000 Because the NSA should be keeping them safe, just like they do Americans.

01:43:22.000 Well, that's what's happened.

01:43:23.000 See, a lot of these, all these arrangements with the Germans and the French and the Dutch and the Danes and everyone else, they were done during the Cold War.

01:43:31.000 But remember what happened.

01:43:33.000 The Soviet Union, which was a much overplayed threat, you know, during the Cold War, disappears and they need a new, a new enemy. 0.76

01:43:43.000 And it became terrorism, specifically global jihadist terrorism.

01:43:49.000 Let's not talk about who has funded these terrorist groups over the years.

01:43:53.000 Al-Qaeda, which was organized by the CIA to fight the Soviets, the Taliban.

01:43:58.000 was organized by the CIA to fight the other Afghan factions.

01:44:04.000 You know, so all the Muslim Brotherhood was started by British intelligence and then started working for the American intelligence.

01:44:13.000 So, you know, our fingerprints are all over these groups, but they serve the purpose of providing that enemy, that suspicious, mysterious enemy that the governments need to basically cow their populations.

01:44:30.000 Right.

01:44:30.000 Live in a state of fear.

01:44:31.000 Just like out of 1984.

01:44:34.000 Yeah.

01:44:35.000 Is there any indication that the Observer slash Guardian is going to reinstate that story?

01:44:41.000 Or are they now too afraid to actually print the truth on this topic?

01:44:45.000 Well, what happened was, after they printed the story, and as I said, this was vetted, you know, my past as a journalist was well known to them.

01:44:55.000 People who say they didn't bother checking Google, of course they check Google!

01:44:58.000 I mean, this is a major paper, a major media operation that happens to own two newspapers, The Guardian And the Observer.

01:45:07.000 But what happened was, I think, certain European politicians and the Obama administration got nervous that, you know, the Emperor has no clothes.

01:45:19.000 They're not spying on terrorism.

01:45:22.000 As a matter of fact, you hear Merkel and Hollande complaining about the Americans are spying on us during sensitive EU-American trade negotiations.

01:45:32.000 That's what it's all about!

01:45:32.000 Aha!

01:45:34.000 That's what it's all about.

01:45:35.000 They're afraid we're going to get a leg up on them on trade negotiations.

01:45:41.000 In other words, Merkel cares more about Volkswagens coming to the United States and Hollande about French Brie sales to the United States than they are the spying on their own people. 0.50

01:45:51.000 Sure.

01:45:52.000 Right.

01:45:52.000 It boils down to.

01:45:53.000 Always the case.

01:45:54.000 And these two phonies, Hollande and Merkel, you know, think that they can get away with the crying these crocodile tears, you know.

01:46:02.000 After they're kicked out of office, they ought to go on, you know, their own television networks on.

01:46:07.000 Theater.

01:46:09.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:46:11.000 It's a great act they put on.

01:46:13.000 They have the acting experience.

01:46:14.000 Let me get your take on this and then we'll go to some calls for you, Wayne.

01:46:17.000 The Register has announced that the Department of Defense is setting up a sentient world psyop simulator.

01:46:25.000 That's a massive computer system that simulates the decision process of all individuals On the planet.

01:46:32.000 And it even simulates media outlets and utilities and financial institutions and so on.

01:46:37.000 It's going to use this to test PsyOps to see how the population might react. 0.87

01:46:42.000 What do you think about this PsyOps simulator?

01:46:45.000 Well, it makes The Matrix, the movie The Matrix, look like a documentary of future events.

01:46:50.000 Right. 0.99

01:46:52.000 I mean, you know, this is our money being wasted on this crap. 0.99

01:46:56.000 That's the only, you know, that's the only word I can use to describe it. 0.99

01:47:00.000 You know, PSYOP simulators.

01:47:02.000 What's the matter with the real PSYOP people, all the sock puppets, some of which attacked me immediately, by the way.

01:47:08.000 I think part of what the Guardian, you know, and the Observer, what they reacted to was this same group that went after Dan Rather, you remember.

01:47:16.000 Sitting there ready, waiting to go after people.

01:47:19.000 They dig, they dig, they dig.

01:47:20.000 Well, this is real psyops, but I guess these people, you know, they have to take a break sometimes.

01:47:26.000 They gotta eat, they gotta go to the bathroom.

01:47:28.000 So it's better, I guess, for these intelligence agencies to have, you know, some mechanism that doesn't take potty breaks and smoke breaks.

01:47:37.000 Well, right, and it's faster.

01:47:39.000 I mean, they can test something and see how they think it might operate before they actually try a rollout.

01:47:44.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:47:46.000 But look, you know, if the American public, you know, I love, you know, Rand Paul, he talks about how the government wastes money on, you know, robotic squirrels and the mating habits of, you know, bumblebees and all this other stuff.

01:48:01.000 But the American people knew some of the garbage that the intelligence community has wasted their money on.

01:48:07.000 More outrage, but isn't it funny? 0.90

01:48:08.000 The intelligence community and military don't come under the austerity cuts as much as, you know, some of the other agencies do.

01:48:14.000 Well, no.

01:48:15.000 Some of them provide services, but, you know, for example, the Air Force paid a guy $50,000 to come up with a feasibility study for a Star Trek transporter device.

01:48:26.000 Did he get the information?

01:48:27.000 He got it from a Trekkie website and sold it to the Air Force.

01:48:30.000 Great.

01:48:32.000 Hey, we should get into that racket, huh?

01:48:33.000 Let's take some phone calls.

01:48:36.000 As remote viewers, you know, clairvoyance.

01:48:39.000 That's right.

01:48:39.000 Go talk to dead people, you know.

01:48:42.000 Yeah, well, maybe those are the people that have the secrets.

01:48:47.000 They've been killed.

01:48:49.000 I'd like to ask Richard Nixon if they have that capability, you know, how screwed up things are today.

01:48:55.000 Nixon would be shaking his head over this mess.

01:48:58.000 Yeah, well if you walk into the NSA headquarters and you got a bunch of guys with their hands on Ouija boards, then something's definitely wrong with the intelligence community.

01:49:06.000 Let's go to a caller, Frank in North Carolina.

01:49:09.000 Frank, welcome to the show.

01:49:11.000 You're on with Wayne Madsen.

01:49:13.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:49:14.000 Yes.

01:49:15.000 Order out of chaos.

01:49:16.000 Their order.

01:49:17.000 Right.

01:49:18.000 Sorry, my phone is just starting to go a little bit bad here.

01:49:18.000 Yeah.

01:49:21.000 I'll make it quick.

01:49:22.000 My source on this is one individual.

01:49:25.000 He says he's received warnings from two individual insiders, one in military intelligence, I believe, and another one in law enforcement, I believe.

01:49:34.000 David Laurie Vanderbeek.

01:49:35.000 He's running for governor.

01:49:36.000 I'm not sure if you guys have talked about this yet, but he sounds pretty intelligent, you know, legitimate patriot.

01:49:42.000 He says he's got these two guys that have warned him of a possible false flag attack on the Scout Jamboree on the grounds of the Bechtel Reservation in West Virginia beginning July 15th.

01:49:50.000 Possibly a bioterrorist false flag attack.

01:49:55.000 He claims that the governor of West Virginia has already I've already stated secretly that this area is under martial law.

01:50:04.000 Alright, well good call Frank.

01:50:05.000 We don't want to put words into the mouth of the governor there, but it's a legitimate question.

01:50:10.000 What do you think, Wayne, of the possibility of upcoming false flags?

01:50:14.000 Well, listen, after what happened at the Social Democratic Youth Camp in Norway outside of Oslo, you know, with Breivik, I wouldn't send any kids to these jamborees and these camp meetings, especially the ones that have a lot of public attention, media attention.

01:50:32.000 I just don't think we can do it anymore.

01:50:34.000 Not because I'm afraid of Joe Jihadi out there setting off a bomb, but as the caller said, There are too many anomalies with some of these attacks.

01:50:46.000 Like Boston Marathon bombing.

01:50:47.000 Total drill.

01:50:49.000 I won't even get into all the other... I know there's a lot of logistics questions on the ground, but the fact is that the uncle, Uncle Ruslan, is more tied up with the CIA.

01:50:58.000 We've got to go to break, Wayne.

01:51:00.000 Sorry to interrupt you there, but stay with us.

01:51:01.000 We'll be right back after this break.

01:51:03.000 More with Wayne Madsen and your call.

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01:54:22.000 We're interviewing NSA, former NSA insider Wayne Madsen, who is the source behind some of the documents that resulted in a Guardian story that was then yanked off the web because it made some people nervous.

01:54:38.000 You know, in our world today, people who tell the truth are the most viciously attacked.

01:54:45.000 If you, if you lie to everybody, oh, you got it made, you know, you can, you can host a show on CNN, you know, you can, you can, your business is going to get government grants. 0.97

01:54:54.000 If you're a big fat liar, you know, no problem, you got it made.

01:54:57.000 But if you tell the truth, oh no, you're going to have struggle, you're going to have to Work your way and actually fend off criticism and attacks and that's the situation that most of us are in who are truth-tellers including Wayne Madsen. 0.98

01:55:13.000 Wayne, we're going to take a couple more calls here with you but...

01:55:17.000 On that last point, do you even pay any attention to the critics?

01:55:22.000 Because I don't.

01:55:23.000 I don't have time with it.

01:55:24.000 But how do you deal with the criticism?

01:55:27.000 I did this morning.

01:55:28.000 I had to fire off some rebuttals to some people who defend that they're journalists and had to point out the background of these people.

01:55:36.000 There's one guy who writes for the Daily Beast.

01:55:39.000 Now, let's remember what the Daily Beast is.

01:55:41.000 You know, the editor is Tina Brown.

01:55:44.000 This doyen of the British Fleet Street circuit and now more lately of the Manhattan Chardonnay swilling crowd.

01:55:57.000 The Daily Beast bought Newsweek from the Washington Post company a couple years ago for a dollar.

01:56:02.000 Right, I remember that.

01:56:04.000 A dollar.

01:56:05.000 That's what the combined media operations of the Daily Beast and Newsweek are worth.

01:56:12.000 One dollar.

01:56:13.000 I'd say that that's overly inflated.

01:56:18.000 So there's a guy there named Michael Moynihan.

01:56:20.000 Now this guy...

01:56:24.000 He was a struggling journalist in the United States and he went where every struggling journalist goes to make a name for themselves.

01:56:31.000 Stockholm, Sweden.

01:56:33.000 You know, I mean, so he gets tied up with a think tank over there called Timbro that's been linked to Karl Rove.

01:56:39.000 The wonderful Karl Rove.

01:56:41.000 You know, this guy's a hack.

01:56:43.000 He's a political party hack for the GOP.

01:56:46.000 He's not a journalist.

01:56:48.000 So he attacked, he goes on a vicious attack, suggests that You know, the observer never even contacted me.

01:56:58.000 Well, let's not give him any more attention.

01:57:01.000 The fact is, all of us who tell the truth are going to be just routinely attacked.

01:57:04.000 It just goes with the territory.

01:57:06.000 Let's take a call.

01:57:07.000 Let's go to Chris in Kentucky.

01:57:09.000 Chris, you're on the show.

01:57:10.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

01:57:12.000 Wayne Madsen is our guest.

01:57:14.000 Go ahead.

01:57:15.000 Yes, thank you very much.

01:57:16.000 Wayne, I want to thank you, first of all, real quick.

01:57:18.000 Thank you for being a patriot and standing up.

01:57:20.000 My question is, these new phones that are coming out, is this going to be data?

01:57:24.000 You move it with your eyes.

01:57:25.000 You can move the web page with your eyes.

01:57:27.000 And could they take a retina scan of your eyes and database in the NSA?

01:57:30.000 Have you had any information about that?

01:57:32.000 Well, look, you know, let me tell you what the NSA has.

01:57:35.000 They have a, you know, there's a group in the DOD called the DOD Advanced Research Projects Agency.

01:57:42.000 As a matter of fact, What we know about metadata and PRISM was originally a project under Homeland Security and DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, it was called Total Information Awareness System.

01:57:56.000 It was headed up by none other than disgraced retired Admiral John Poindexter of Iran Contra Infamy.

01:58:03.000 You know, these people never go away.

01:58:05.000 They never go away.

01:58:10.000 Now it's known as PRISM.

01:58:11.000 But NSA, and it's mostly through their R&D division there, they're always looking at the next phases.

01:58:19.000 They always say, oh, we can't keep up with technology.

01:58:22.000 One thing we know about the intelligence community is they drive technology.

01:58:26.000 Google got its seed money from where?

01:58:29.000 The CIA.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, the internet came out of DARPA.

01:58:32.000 Oracle.

01:58:32.000 Oracle was once the name of a CIA project on a relational database system.

01:58:37.000 Now it's a big company.

01:58:38.000 We're going to go to break again, Wayne.

01:58:40.000 Will you stay with us for one more segment?

01:58:42.000 Absolutely.

01:58:42.000 All right.

01:58:43.000 We'll be back in just over one minute with more calls for Wayne Madsen.

01:58:43.000 Stay with us, folks.

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02:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:35.000 We've got Wayne Madsen continuing with us for the next five minutes, plus callers on the line.

02:00:41.000 This is Mike Adams filling in for Alex Jones.

02:00:45.000 You are in the right place if you're tuning in to the Alex Jones Show, so welcome.

02:00:48.000 This is, what is this, the third hour already?

02:00:51.000 How could it be?

02:00:52.000 Time flies when you're being spied on.

02:00:54.000 So Wayne, there was a caller that Alex was unable to get to, I think yesterday, that had a question for you.

02:01:03.000 The caller was asking, can we somehow flip the surveillance technology back onto the government?

02:01:09.000 Is there a way that the citizens can monitor the government and actually create the transparency that presidents always promise but never deliver?

02:01:17.000 Is that possible?

02:01:19.000 Well, I think Ed Snowden has shown it is possible.

02:01:22.000 But unfortunately for him, he's wound up as an international pawn with Vladimir Putin today saying, you know, he can stay in Russia as long as he stops making these revelations.

02:01:32.000 Another person over there said he's applied for asylum in 15 countries.

02:01:36.000 He's really going to wind up like a CIA whistleblower from a few decades ago named Phil Agee.

02:01:42.000 Phil Agee traveled on a Grenada passport, a Nicaraguan passport, before he settled down with a German passport.

02:01:48.000 Wow.

02:01:48.000 He did eventually come back to the United States after they decided they weren't going to arrest him.

02:01:54.000 That's the life he's faced.

02:01:57.000 Whistleblowers do that. 1.00

02:01:58.000 They're trying to expose the government's wrongdoings.

02:02:04.000 But look at the price they've paid.

02:02:06.000 They've been put in jail.

02:02:07.000 They've had guns drawn on them in the shower.

02:02:10.000 They've lost fortunes.

02:02:12.000 Their retirement nest eggs have disappeared with legal fees.

02:02:16.000 So this is what happens to the whistleblowers.

02:02:19.000 What if we had an initiative where we put webcams in all the offices of all government employees so that the public can log in and see what your tax dollars are doing at that moment?

02:02:30.000 You wouldn't see much.

02:02:30.000 You'd see a lot of government employees sleeping or going down to fetch these styrofoam boxes full of food.

02:02:38.000 They're like ants, you know.

02:02:39.000 They go back to the cafeterias in their federal buildings and they're extremely obese people.

02:02:46.000 I suggested to one group one time I was in an elevator at the GSA building in DC and the elevator didn't move and there were three rather obese persons on there and I suggested that maybe They should take the freight elevator instead.

02:03:03.000 This is what you would see in any given federal problem.

02:03:07.000 Well, I thought I was being politically incorrect, and here you go, breaking a new one open for us there, Wayne.

02:03:14.000 I'm sorry, but that's how the government really works.

02:03:17.000 We don't want those webcams.

02:03:18.000 They might be too horrifying for us.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, they would be horrifying, but look, today you can get get arrested for taking a photograph of a federal office building.

02:03:27.000 I know.

02:03:28.000 So lots of luck getting a webcam inside.

02:03:31.000 You can't even get a camera on the outside.

02:03:32.000 Yeah, but don't we have the right?

02:03:33.000 I mean, we're paying their salaries.

02:03:35.000 We should have the right.

02:03:36.000 Let's go to another caller, though.

02:03:37.000 Habu in Wisconsin.

02:03:38.000 Habu, welcome to The Alex Jones Show.

02:03:40.000 You're on with Wayne Madsen.

02:03:42.000 Yeah, hello, Mike Adams and Wayne Madison.

02:03:47.000 You know, just as an aside, I hope you people in Austin take up the case of that Justin Carter kid who is facing, I mean, lengthy sentences just for putting some just kidding posts on Facebook.

02:04:01.000 But anyway, Mr. Madison, may I ask you a couple of quick questions?

02:04:07.000 Do you recommend people adding all these kind of tags which would, you know, which would Uh, catch the emails, and if 100 million people of us did it, would it jam up the system?

02:04:20.000 Oh, the keyword tags.

02:04:21.000 We only have 45 seconds.

02:04:23.000 Go ahead, Wayne.

02:04:24.000 Simple answer, no.

02:04:25.000 They've got all kinds of algorithms that look at context and other words, so they've figured that out.

02:04:32.000 Yeah, those keywords.

02:04:34.000 When Echelon was out, people decided to do that, and it did not affect their system whatsoever.

02:04:41.000 Wayne, what's your website?

02:04:43.000 It is WayneMadsenReport.com and anyone can go to the homepage and read about what happened with the Observer, the Guardian, and with links to the original documents that I provided them.

02:04:54.000 Alright, WayneMadsenReport.com and Madsen is spelled M-A-D-S-E-N.

02:04:58.000 Madsen, two syllables in that name.

02:05:01.000 WayneMadsenReport.com, thank you Wayne for joining us on the show today.

02:05:04.000 You bet.

02:05:05.000 It's great to have you on, so stay with us.

02:05:07.000 A lot more news straight ahead.

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02:08:09.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

02:08:20.000 I'm just an average man with an average man.

02:08:25.000 All right, welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:27.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, editor of naturalnews.com, filling in for Alex today.

02:08:34.000 Thanks for joining us.

02:08:35.000 This is the third hour.

02:08:36.000 We just heard from Wayne Madsen, and for the rest of this hour, I've got a few comments here, and then I want to take your calls and then cover some of the remaining news that we haven't yet had a chance to cover.

02:08:49.000 And I mentioned a couple of good films here, State of Mind.

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02:08:57.000 So, before I was hosting the show, one of my friends asked me, he said, Mike, are you gonna talk about same-sex marriage?

02:09:04.000 Because you haven't really gone on the record.

02:09:08.000 What do you think about same-sex marriage?

02:09:11.000 And you're hosting Alex's show.

02:09:12.000 You gotta talk about that, aren't you?

02:09:15.000 Aren't you gonna talk about it?

02:09:18.000 Well, I don't know, all this talk about same-sex marriage and opposite-sex marriage and...

02:09:23.000 From what I hear, most Americans would be happy with any sex in their marriage, frankly.

02:09:27.000 It's like, it's a no-sex marriage. 0.98

02:09:30.000 But I'm not even really sure, I'm not sure if we can enforce all these rules one way or another, because personally, I can't tell the gender of some of these people, so I'm not, I mean, I'm not trying to be, you know, insulting or anything, I'm just saying, I can't tell.

02:09:47.000 You've got some of these You know, macho gay women riding around and trying to pick up dates, riding on Harleys. 1.00

02:09:54.000 You want to go on a ride? 0.98

02:09:57.000 No, no, I don't want to go on a ride.

02:10:01.000 Not with you.

02:10:02.000 No, please.

02:10:04.000 I mean, if you go on a date with one of these gals, you got to it's almost like you got to buy him a plane ticket on the first date so you can march him through TSA for a gender check. 0.96

02:10:04.000 No. 0.96

02:10:16.000 You know what I mean?

02:10:18.000 It's like, slip a 50 to the agent and ask him, hey, what's the verdict, buddy?

02:10:24.000 Am I dating a dude?

02:10:27.000 Or a chick? 1.00

02:10:30.000 I'm sorry.

02:10:31.000 I'm sorry.

02:10:32.000 I know it's not politically correct.

02:10:33.000 I'm just saying.

02:10:34.000 I'm just saying.

02:10:35.000 Why do we have to have all this discussion about all these things?

02:10:38.000 There's so many more important issues out there, like the fluoride in the water.

02:10:42.000 Why do we have to be obsessed about what gender people are when they get married?

02:10:48.000 I mean, how does the TSA even tell, by the way, if someone comes in and they're not sure?

02:10:52.000 I mean, do they have like a gender-neutral line?

02:10:55.000 You know, a pat-down?

02:10:56.000 Like someone there named Pat doing the pat-down?

02:10:59.000 Hi, I'm pat-down Pat.

02:11:02.000 I'm going to pat you down today.

02:11:04.000 I'm the gender-neutral TSA pat-down expert.

02:11:07.000 I was highly trained as the head of security at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch, and we have a very special pat-down procedure that we use there.

02:11:21.000 Is that the way they really do it?

02:11:22.000 Seriously?

02:11:24.000 But, you know, back on the issue of same-sex marriage, I mean, come on, if Michael Moore marries Janet Napolitano, isn't that a same-sex marriage?

02:11:32.000 I mean, really?

02:11:34.000 Isn't that, doesn't that qualify?

02:11:36.000 Because, you know, who are we to say that they can't have their fun together, their joy, frolicking in the sunset, hand in hand, bounding through fields of clover?

02:11:47.000 You know, off into the sunset?

02:11:49.000 It would be wonderful.

02:11:50.000 Can you imagine those two getting married up there at the altar?

02:11:54.000 There's like the Reverend says, I now pronounce you man and wife.

02:11:57.000 You may kiss the bride.

02:11:58.000 And then both of their heads turn like the exorcist.

02:12:03.000 360 degrees.

02:12:04.000 There is no bride.

02:12:06.000 What?

02:12:06.000 There's no bride?

02:12:07.000 And then they start to kiss and there's like hormones and pheromones flying and exploding every which way.

02:12:13.000 Like a bad scene out of the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

02:12:16.000 A cross-dressing transvestites appear on stage and start dancing in a musical number with meatloaf. 0.98

02:12:23.000 And then George Carlin and Richard Pryor come back to life and show up on stage and their heads turn and see these two French kissing in matrimony and their heads explode out of the sheer horror of it. 0.84

02:12:36.000 So, so yeah, I'm all for it.

02:12:38.000 Yeah.

02:12:41.000 At least that's how it plays out in my head.

02:12:46.000 So, uh, go ahead.

02:12:48.000 Go ahead and roll.

02:12:49.000 That's a comedy bit, by the way, folks.

02:12:50.000 That's, that's called exercising your free speech.

02:12:53.000 That's a comedy bit aimed at some public figures that deserve to be made fun of.

02:12:59.000 Just, just a little bit.

02:13:00.000 Just a little bit.

02:13:01.000 So, uh, let's go to some calls.

02:13:04.000 Get a little more serious here.

02:13:05.000 You gotta have fun from time to time because it's, it's too insane to take seriously all the time.

02:13:09.000 Let's go to Phil in Florida.

02:13:11.000 Phil, you're on the show.

02:13:13.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

02:13:15.000 Hey, Mr. Adams.

02:13:16.000 Thanks for everything.

02:13:17.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:13:18.000 You betcha.

02:13:19.000 Yeah, I just had a question.

02:13:22.000 I mean, I was surprised when everybody was surprised about this N.A.

02:13:25.000 stuff, mostly because Alex and yourself have opened my eyes to exactly how corrupt and gigantic our government has become.

02:13:35.000 And I don't know.

02:13:36.000 I mean, I'm not saying that the Snowden story is a distractor, but I don't know whatever happened to this check and dude the FBI executed over here in Orlando.

02:13:44.000 Which guy?

02:13:46.000 The Chechen guy that they were interviewing that supposedly knew the bombers in Boston.

02:13:51.000 They haven't heard anything on that.

02:13:51.000 Right.

02:13:53.000 And the last thing I heard, the FBI was investigating it.

02:13:56.000 That was a month ago.

02:13:57.000 Well, this is the problem that the scandals are coming so fast and furious, pun intended, that you don't even have time to dig into one before another one crops up.

02:14:07.000 And they know that the attention span of the people is so short that they will just jump from one scandal to the next, and then when you want to go back to one that you haven't fully uncovered, they'll say, oh, that's old news, it's no longer relevant.

02:14:18.000 So that's, I think that's what's happening.

02:14:21.000 I mean, who knows what that guy had?

02:14:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:14:25.000 Supposedly he knew this kid, and now he's dead.

02:14:27.000 No one can ask him.

02:14:28.000 So that's what I wanted to ask Mr. Madsen.

02:14:31.000 Thanks for having me on, and hopefully someone will look into it a little more.

02:14:35.000 You bet, Phil.

02:14:35.000 Thanks for your call.

02:14:36.000 I mean, we do know that the death squads are operating in America.

02:14:40.000 Some rogue element of the government is running around killing people.

02:14:44.000 We know that's true.

02:14:46.000 And just for the record, I want to be on the record like Alex said, I'm not suicidal.

02:14:52.000 I don't drive fast cars down the highway.

02:14:54.000 I don't drink alcohol.

02:14:56.000 I don't visit prostitutes. 1.00

02:14:58.000 I don't use recreational drugs.

02:15:00.000 I'm not into any of that stuff.

02:15:02.000 So if they try to set me up with that stuff, you know it's staged.

02:15:06.000 I mean, if I die like in a farm equipment accident, that might be real.

02:15:13.000 Like a John Deere ran over him or something, you know.

02:15:16.000 That could be real because I'm actually out there on the farm, but I try to be safe.

02:15:20.000 So let's go to a white grand wizard in Florida. 0.85

02:15:25.000 Mr. Wizard, welcome to the show.

02:15:27.000 Yes, hello Mr. Adams.

02:15:30.000 I'd like to ask Alex's Infowars team if they're going to do a documentary or a movie on the trains, the guillotine trains, that are all around America.

02:15:45.000 Where they are, who built them, when they're supposed to be used, etc.

02:15:50.000 at that point.

02:15:51.000 Well, I will certainly pass on that comment.

02:15:53.000 The thing is, I keep hearing about these trains full of guillotines.

02:15:58.000 I gotta profess, I've never seen any photos of this.

02:16:00.000 I don't know that that's real.

02:16:02.000 People keep telling me.

02:16:03.000 I just don't know.

02:16:05.000 Why would they use guillotines in the first place?

02:16:08.000 It sounds like a lot of trouble to go through when you could just unleash a biological weapon and just do it much more quickly.

02:16:15.000 Well, that's a good question in itself, but I've seen photos of those trains.

02:16:20.000 They're three stacked high, three levels high, and they each have a guillotine. 0.73

02:16:26.000 You know, you ride around, you kill people, and then you dump them off in a mass grave. 0.98

02:16:29.000 That's my assumption. 0.99

02:16:30.000 Well, I mean, there's just way more efficient ways to kill people.

02:16:35.000 You know, bullets, for example.

02:16:36.000 I mean, the DHS has bought all that ammunition.

02:16:38.000 That's probably a much faster way, I think.

02:16:41.000 Probably, I'm just guessing, I'm just putting this out there, that maybe these are some kind of mechanical parts.

02:16:48.000 That look like guillotines, but maybe they're not guillotines.

02:16:51.000 I'm just saying.

02:16:51.000 That's just conjecture.

02:16:53.000 I don't, I profess, I don't know the situation.

02:16:55.000 We'll look into it, but thanks for your call, Mr. Wizard.

02:16:59.000 We'll look into the guillotine situation.

02:17:01.000 I don't know, man.

02:17:02.000 I guess nothing would surprise me at this point.

02:17:04.000 Let's go to Dylan in Minnesota, I believe.

02:17:07.000 Welcome, Dylan.

02:17:08.000 Hi, Mike.

02:17:11.000 Yeah, I was really hoping to get through to Wayne Morrison, but But I suppose I'll address my question to you.

02:17:18.000 I was curious if there was any new information on Philip Marshall.

02:17:23.000 He was a 9-11 researcher and apparently he used to fly in cocaine for the CIA, which he admitted in the 80s, and he was found dead in his home with his two children who were also deceased.

02:17:42.000 Well, I'm not aware of any additional information on that individual.

02:17:45.000 In fact, that's the first time I've heard his name.

02:17:47.000 I haven't.

02:17:48.000 I'm sorry.

02:17:49.000 I'm not a specialist on, you know, the CIA drug-running situation.

02:17:54.000 But now that you put it out there here on the show, maybe others will bring some information forth on that.

02:18:00.000 I appreciate your question.

02:18:02.000 There's a lot of leads that need to be followed up here, because I think all the evidence is out there.

02:18:06.000 We just, we don't have the manpower here at InfoWars to run like full-on investigations into every single thing that needs to be investigated.

02:18:14.000 We're just, we're doing the best we can, but thank you for your tip.

02:18:18.000 Maybe that'll spur some information to be brought forth.

02:18:20.000 Let's go to another caller, Bobby in Texas.

02:18:23.000 Thank you, Bobby.

02:18:23.000 Welcome to the show.

02:18:25.000 That is quite a number there, Reefer Seed.

02:18:27.000 Is this Reefer Seed?

02:18:28.000 Well, you have a very particular voice, but nice intro there.

02:18:29.000 the quantum world simulators and all those confused at best, truly evil, most likely lockstep sociopaths waiting war on all of us, especially babies.

02:18:38.000 That is quite a number there, reefer seed.

02:18:41.000 Is this reefer seed?

02:18:42.000 By golly, you picked me up one more time.

02:18:45.000 Well, you have a very particular voice, but nice intro there.

02:18:49.000 What's on your mind, buddy?

02:18:50.000 Well, just briefly, why not let gays just use another name than marriage, like civil But more importantly, I wanted to thank you, Sir Mike Adams, for everything you do for all of us.

02:19:01.000 And by the way, today's doubling of student loan interest rates is part of the truly evil sociopath's plan to impoverish and destroy our once-proud constitutional republic.

02:19:11.000 Well, there is a plan underway.

02:19:13.000 I mean, it's not only the student loan rates, it's also the health insurance rates doubling for single women in California. 0.93

02:19:18.000 I don't know if you heard that earlier.

02:19:19.000 The Obamacare exchanges are about to kick in.

02:19:21.000 Rates are going to go up for everybody.

02:19:24.000 They're trying to destroy everybody, including, as you've experienced, free speech.

02:19:28.000 Are they letting you go into the Capitol building anymore and protest these days?

02:19:32.000 I'm not allowed to speak at the Travis County Commissioner's Court sessions.

02:19:36.000 I can speak at City Hall, but only once in every four meetings.

02:19:41.000 I plan to buy at least, by the way, two Bokashi food waste recyclers so as to have both organic and non-organic soil to work with.

02:19:50.000 Of course, I prefer to buy only organic.

02:19:53.000 Well, Reefer C, we've got to go to a break.

02:19:55.000 But nice to hear from you again.

02:19:56.000 Thanks for your call and your questions.

02:19:58.000 And after this, we're going to go to more calls.

02:20:01.000 So call in.

02:20:02.000 And we're going to go to George, Eric, Mike, and others.

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02:24:08.000 All right, we're back on the Alex Jones Show.

02:24:20.000 Thank you for staying with us.

02:24:22.000 I hope you've enjoyed the show so far.

02:24:24.000 We appreciate your support here at InfoWars, and I appreciate your support in particular.

02:24:30.000 I am a guest volunteer host, so I guess I'm only here because the listeners like me to come back, and so Alex invites me back.

02:24:41.000 You know, as long as he keeps doing that, I'll keep coming back and I'll give you my take on things.

02:24:45.000 And, you know, I'm not going to be politically correct.

02:24:48.000 I'm not going to be censored.

02:24:49.000 I'm going to lay out the issues as I see them.

02:24:52.000 And I'm not going to be intimidated by critics out there that want me to shut up and not talk about the issues that really matter.

02:24:59.000 So, you know, there you go.

02:25:01.000 I have no boss.

02:25:02.000 I can't be fired.

02:25:02.000 I'm not on the payroll.

02:25:04.000 So there you go.

02:25:04.000 That's why I'm telling the truth.

02:25:06.000 Now, speaking of the truth, This is a discussion that I had planned for today, and then we'll go to your calls after this, after the next break, but this is a discussion I call the rise of the machines and why the future doesn't need you.

02:25:19.000 I want to elaborate on what Alex said last week.

02:25:23.000 Now, here's the thing.

02:25:24.000 The technology is becoming viable now to have, in the next couple of decades, humanoid-shaped robots.

02:25:31.000 They'll probably be about five foot nine.

02:25:32.000 They want to make them a little bit shorter than a typical, you know, American male. 0.93

02:25:37.000 to be slightly less intimidating.

02:25:39.000 They will be powered by quantum computing processing units that have very high-end vision recognition systems, motor coordination skills, and corporations will be able to buy them to replace workers to do light labor work.

02:25:55.000 Now, the first application of this is, of course, They will be soldiers on the field.

02:26:01.000 They will be commanded by a human soldier that's the key decision maker, but the actual grunts that are carrying the rifles and doing the real hard frontline battle work, like defusing IEDs, That's going to be done by robotic soldiers, and we're showing on screen, by the way, an actual walking robotic soldier that's being developed by Boston Dynamics, for those of you watching on PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:26:24.000 So it is becoming a reality very quickly.

02:26:27.000 And these look creepy, spooky, real-life robots, humanoid robots, but as they become less expensive and they go into mass production, then the corporations are going to start buying them to replace workers.

02:26:41.000 Why is that?

02:26:43.000 Main reason?

02:26:44.000 Unions.

02:26:44.000 You see, corporations don't want to deal with unions, and if they hire robots to replace people, then they don't have to negotiate with the union for the robot.

02:26:55.000 I know a lot of you out there listening are in unions, and you may be thinking, holy cow, that's crazy, but it's true.

02:27:02.000 Your corporation would rather not have a human do the job if they could have a robot do the job.

02:27:07.000 So what's going to happen is we're going to have robots creeping into the low-level labor supply, displacing the low-level labor workers, which includes, by the way, most of the current so-called illegal immigrants, undocumented workers, who might be granted amnesty if the amnesty bill becomes law.

02:27:24.000 They're going to be doing a lot of agricultural work, harvesting crops and so on.

02:27:28.000 They will be one of the first to be replaced by labor robots.

02:27:34.000 So you're going to have millions and millions of displaced workers who used to be undocumented immigrants, now have blue card status in the U.S.

02:27:41.000 potentially, and now they're out of work.

02:27:44.000 And, by the way, everybody that's working in fast food, if you're a fast food cashier, your job is going to be replaced by a robot in the next couple of decades.

02:27:53.000 You're going to become obsolete.

02:27:54.000 This is going to happen higher and higher in the workforce as robots become more complex and more capable.

02:28:01.000 What it means is that probably eventually up to 70, 80, maybe even 90% of the workforce is going to become obsolete.

02:28:11.000 You get that?

02:28:12.000 Obsolete in the minds of the globalists that run the system.

02:28:16.000 So, in their minds, they're thinking, okay, we've got robots taking over the jobs, all these billions of people are displaced out of the workforce, they've got no jobs, they've got no way to make a living, they've got no skills that we need now because the robots can do the work for them.

02:28:31.000 What are you going to do if you're a globalist?

02:28:33.000 Holocaust 2.0 is what you're going to do. 0.99

02:28:36.000 You're going to soft kill masses of people, or you're going to put in infertility technologies to make sure that nobody can reproduce, thereby reducing the human population.

02:28:46.000 Leaving only the top 10% that have skills that robots can't replace.

02:28:51.000 Those are skills like engineering skills, entrepreneurial skills, business finance skills, artist skills, you know?

02:28:57.000 A robot can't be an artist because it doesn't have the spirit, the free will consciousness of creation in it, like an artist can create a work of art.

02:29:04.000 You're always going to have value in society.

02:29:07.000 But if you're a low-end laborer out there, eventually you or your children or your grandchildren are going to become obsolete and replaced by the robots.

02:29:16.000 The solution to this, you can't stop the robots, right?

02:29:20.000 They're coming.

02:29:21.000 The technology is moving forward.

02:29:23.000 DARPA is doing the investments.

02:29:24.000 They want the soldiers.

02:29:25.000 The corporations want the workers. 0.99

02:29:26.000 You can't stop that.

02:29:28.000 What you can do out there is upgrade your value.

02:29:32.000 Invest in your own education.

02:29:34.000 Improve your skills.

02:29:36.000 Be somebody, I mean, be somebody that has a skill that a robot can't replace and teach your children to be that way and your grandchildren to be that way.

02:29:46.000 They can be safe in a society even if there is a Holocaust 2.0 that tries to get rid of the lower class of workers that the globalists are trying to kill.

02:29:55.000 That's the Rise of the Machines segment.

02:29:57.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

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02:30:13.000 Tyranny is here.

02:30:15.000 The grim future foretold in 1984 has become reality.

02:30:19.000 It really says that the state is God.

02:30:21.000 The United States is now recognized globally as one of the most oppressive police states on Earth.

02:30:27.000 This film conclusively proves the existence of a secret network of FEMA camps, now being expanded nationwide.

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02:30:44.000 Prepare to enter the secretive world of emergency dictatorship.

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02:30:58.000 The police state isn't coming.

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02:31:59.000 Are we choosing our own destiny or has it been pre-selected for us?

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02:33:08.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:33:18.000 Continuing here on the Alex Jones Show, we're going to break down some more news and take your calls. - Yes.

02:33:31.000 Virginia college student arrested after buying bottled water.

02:33:36.000 Oh my, the undercover officer.

02:33:41.000 Thought she had alcohol in her possession when she had actually just left some kind of convenience store buying bottled water.

02:33:50.000 So she was arrested because I guess there's not enough real crimes going on.

02:33:55.000 So, you know, the FBI, the ATF, the alcohol enforcement people have to run around, you know, making up victims, making up their own crimes so they can arrest somebody.

02:34:03.000 I mean, aren't there real crimes going on that you could investigate?

02:34:08.000 I mean, why isn't the FBI out there investigating all the corporate corruption in the pharmaceutical industry?

02:34:14.000 If you want to find criminals, just go to the top of that little cabal right there.

02:34:19.000 Apple applies for the iWatch trademark.

02:34:24.000 Yes, a lot of people think that means that they're going to have a wearable watch technology that will, of course, watch you.

02:34:32.000 So, if you actually want to wear an extension of the NSA on your wrist, it'll probably monitor, you know, your heartbeat.

02:34:42.000 So that when you're being interrogated by the TSA at airport security, they can determine if you have an elevated heart rate or something like that.

02:34:51.000 I bet it will monitor your heart rate and report it back to Apple because there's nothing, there's nothing that they won't do now to violate your privacy.

02:35:04.000 Another news item here, the Monsanto-funded World Food Prize has been granted to...

02:35:11.000 Well, Monsanto.

02:35:14.000 Yes, Monsanto funded an organization that gave itself an award, the World Food Prize Award, which is granted to somebody that apparently helps advance human development by spreading genetic pollution all around the world, and so they came up with their own prize and financed it and they gave it to themselves.

02:35:34.000 This would be like, like, I don't know, InfoWars coming up with the InfoWars award and then awarding it to Alex Jones.

02:35:42.000 I mean, it's so self-serving for Monsanto to do this.

02:35:46.000 It's a complete joke.

02:35:48.000 You notice, by the way, at the highest levels of government and corruption, they're always giving each other awards and academic degrees and knighthoods and all these things.

02:35:59.000 Oh yeah, on the day that they're bombing some innocent civilians somewhere, they'll give them, you know, the Peace Prize.

02:36:07.000 The Obama Peace Prize.

02:36:09.000 Because his bombs are love bombs.

02:36:12.000 They don't blow up, they blow in.

02:36:16.000 Alright, let's go to a video, then we'll go to your calls after this.

02:36:19.000 Saddam was a key in an early CIA plot, it turns out.

02:36:24.000 This is news that is suddenly resurging in interest.

02:36:29.000 Let's run this video clip about Saddam Hussein.

02:36:32.000 So we decided that Saddam Hussein ought to accept something very similar. 0.84

02:36:38.000 Now, probably a lot of you know that Saddam has been our boy for a very, very long time. 0.91

02:36:42.000 You may remember Abdul Karim Qasim, who was president of Iraq in the early 60s.

02:36:49.000 Qasim came up with a unique concept.

02:36:53.000 He said, Iraqi oil ought to go to benefit the Iraqi people.

02:37:01.000 How novel is that?

02:37:08.000 Well, we didn't like that very much.

02:37:12.000 He began to tax the oil companies, particularly the British and some American companies, and threatened to nationalize our oil companies.

02:37:20.000 And so we decided that Kasim had to go.

02:37:22.000 We, the CIA, sent in an assassination team.

02:37:26.000 It was headed by a man who was still going through high school, an Iraqi citizen who was still going through high school.

02:37:34.000 They They riddled Qasim's car with bullets on the streets of Baghdad and missed him.

02:37:42.000 The head of this assassination team was wounded and fled to Syria.

02:37:46.000 His name was Saddam Hussein.

02:37:48.000 He was a CIA agent in those days, an assassin for us.

02:37:53.000 He failed.

02:37:54.000 He was our boy.

02:37:55.000 He was our man.

02:37:57.000 And so, and we sold him a lot of, and gave him a lot of tanks.

02:38:02.000 We built him, Bechtel built him big chemical, I don't know, my father-in-law was chief architect at Bechtel, built, sat on big chemical plants.

02:38:11.000 They were used and we knew that they were used to make mustard gas and other chemical weapons that were being employed against the Kurds and later the Iranians.

02:38:21.000 We knew this, but we sold them these things.

02:38:24.000 You have to remember that Middle Eastern oil is the oil that's used by a great deal of Europe and China and Japan.

02:38:31.000 If we control Middle Eastern oil, we control our biggest All right, that's John Perkins, author of Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

02:38:42.000 We've got to have John back on this show, by the way.

02:38:45.000 We've got to track him down.

02:38:48.000 He's got a lot of good information.

02:38:49.000 He knows how these things work.

02:38:52.000 The U.S.

02:38:52.000 government obviously recruits people like Saddam Hussein to do its bidding to hijack and overthrow foreign nations and get them into debt with the World Bank so that the U.S.

02:39:02.000 then has leverage to control the resources of those countries.

02:39:06.000 And then the resources are then shipped out and brought back to the United States.

02:39:09.000 Typically oil being one of them.

02:39:11.000 This is by the way one of the reasons why there's so much tension with Ecuador.

02:39:14.000 Ecuador has a huge oil reserve there in the eastern section of the country and it has apparently just signed over much of the exploration rights of that sector to China.

02:39:24.000 Yeah, so...

02:39:26.000 A lot of competition going on there between the U.S.

02:39:29.000 and China to get the natural resources of the world.

02:39:31.000 I mean, what else?

02:39:32.000 What else is it really all about?

02:39:33.000 Power.

02:39:34.000 Power and domination.

02:39:37.000 Let me bring you this piece of news very quickly, then we'll go to a call.

02:39:42.000 Jennifer Lopez has been forced to apologize for singing happy birthday to a brutal Turkmen dictator accused of torture.

02:39:51.000 She was singing happy birthday to him at a celebration concert and she has now apologized for singing the song to the most repressive, one of the most repressive regimes in the world according to Human Rights Watch.

02:40:02.000 And in related news, Lady Gaga has changed the national anthem to end with the line, and the home of the gay. 0.89

02:40:12.000 She thinks she's living in a country that is like 90% gay or something. 0.87

02:40:18.000 Maybe her supporters are, but certainly not the rest of the country. 0.95

02:40:22.000 I mean, again, stop shoving in our face, okay, Lady Gaga? 0.86

02:40:26.000 You're a warped individual at every level.

02:40:29.000 That's right.

02:40:34.000 I didn't say it!

02:40:35.000 They said it.

02:40:35.000 This is on CNN.

02:40:36.000 They don't want overweight airline flight attendants because they take too much fuel to fly back and forth. 1.00

02:40:43.000 So they're hiring ultra-thin women Who also, by the way, happened to fit through the aisles better in an emergency. 1.00

02:40:50.000 That's no joke.

02:40:51.000 I mean, in an emergency situation, you've got to be able to get your bod out of the aisle, out of the plane, and help other passengers escape.

02:40:58.000 So there's actually a physical reason behind that as well.

02:41:01.000 I know it's politically incorrect to talk about women being thin, you know, but hey, that's what this airline is doing, so we're reporting the news. 0.57

02:41:09.000 Let's go to George in Connecticut.

02:41:12.000 George, thank you for holding and welcome to the show.

02:41:14.000 Hi Mike, I have a comment and also a question.

02:41:18.000 A quick comment is I know you did a movie, or not a movie, a documentary with Gary Noll on the genetically engineered seeds.

02:41:27.000 He has a great idea that he started up with his radio show.

02:41:32.000 He basically, you can dial in and listen to the show while you're, you know, you dial into that number and it'll automatically, you don't need any special app or anything like that.

02:41:43.000 I think Alex should do something like that.

02:41:46.000 What we should do is have hundreds of people meet up at government buildings and like the walls of Jericho, they turn on the show and then have an amplifier and take the Yeah.

02:41:59.000 That's pretty cool.

02:42:00.000 Yeah, well, Gary Knoll's great and I really like his work in nutrition and truth-telling on issues like vaccines as well.

02:42:09.000 I believe he's on the Progressive Radio Network, PRN.

02:42:13.000 I think that Alex's audience is so large that if there was a call-in number it would be overwhelmed.

02:42:20.000 They'd have to have like an NSA-style data system here just to handle all those phone calls, but it's an interesting idea for sure.

02:42:27.000 Do you have another question?

02:42:29.000 I have a question on something that Alex was talking about on Friday.

02:42:34.000 Maybe you can help me fill it in or if you can't, maybe you can talk to Alex and he can get more details on it.

02:42:39.000 That idea that he was talking about that they basically have in the Obamacare that basically gives them up to a 12-year amnesty on any illegals working so they don't have to work less than 30 hours to avoid the penalty or the cost of Obamacare that basically makes American citizens second class citizens in their own country when it comes to hiring.

02:43:03.000 So I would like to know what that specific, where he got that information, because I've been trying to find it and I can't find it.

02:43:11.000 And I'd like to bring that up with the immigration bill, because if we can add that with the immigration bill, that's almost a killer app if it's not these people.

02:43:20.000 Well, good question, George.

02:43:22.000 I'll run that by Alex.

02:43:23.000 He might even be hearing your comment right now.

02:43:26.000 Look, the thing is, almost nobody knows what's in this bill.

02:43:29.000 It's just like Obamacare.

02:43:29.000 That's the thing.

02:43:31.000 Pelosi's saying, let's pass it so we can find out what's in it.

02:43:35.000 It's so massive and it's so full of pork and deception, and you have to navigate it like a minefield, a linguistic minefield, just to figure out what's in it. 0.70

02:43:45.000 But you can bet it's bad for America.

02:43:47.000 So, it is true that the amnesty bill is going to try to give corporations preferential benefits if they hire these newly documented, formerly illegal undocumented immigrants over Americans. 0.52

02:44:02.000 That's absolutely true because this bill is designed to destroy America.

02:44:06.000 It's not a human rights bill, it is an economic destruction bill for America. 0.52

02:44:11.000 And any Republicans, by the way, that get behind it are just committing political suicide.

02:44:15.000 So it needs to be fixed in a huge way.

02:44:19.000 Let's go to Mike in Denver.

02:44:21.000 Mike, thank you for your call.

02:44:22.000 You're on the air.

02:44:22.000 Go ahead.

02:44:23.000 Hey Mike, how's it going today?

02:44:24.000 It's going pretty good.

02:44:26.000 Are you enjoying the show?

02:44:27.000 You know, you're coming along so great, I was going to tell you that from the very first time I heard you guest host till today, you're just spectacular.

02:44:35.000 Oh man, well... Keep up the good work!

02:44:38.000 We're doing our best, that's all.

02:44:40.000 What's your question or comment?

02:44:42.000 You know, comment out here in Denver, I don't think many of us are going to follow the gun laws, and on the 10th it's going to actually go to the federal court to see if we can suppress those.

02:44:50.000 Yeah.

02:44:51.000 Our sheriffs did a good job with that.

02:44:52.000 Yeah.

02:44:53.000 My question, given the GMO, how much is actually in the food supply, is probably not coming out, so is there something that can counter it besides just not buying it?

02:45:04.000 So what's your question then?

02:45:07.000 Well, there's so much wheat and corn GMO that's not labeled and is in the food supply.

02:45:11.000 Yeah.

02:45:12.000 And we probably can't get it back out of the food supply, so I'm wondering what will counter that.

02:45:17.000 Oh, well, I think that if we stop planting genetically modified corn and soy, the two largest, and cotton, the three largest GMO crops.

02:45:27.000 Remember, wheat is not yet commercially, you know, genetically modified, even though it's been contaminated as such.

02:45:32.000 But if we stop planting it, then I think the GMOs will Definitely go drastically down.

02:45:39.000 We may never get rid of them.

02:45:40.000 You're exactly right on that point because of the genetic pollution and contamination issue, but we can at least get them out of the food supply.

02:45:46.000 A lot of people don't know that a food can be labeled as GMO-free even when it has typically up to 0.5% of GMOs in it.

02:45:56.000 So there's even GMOs in the foods that are certified GMO-free.

02:46:00.000 It's a trace level, but you can't get it completely out of the food.

02:46:05.000 A lot of people don't know that.

02:46:06.000 There's some things about the food supply that most Americans have no idea of.

02:46:10.000 For example, the USDA certified organic seal does not certify that your food doesn't have super high levels of lead, mercury, arsenic, cadmium, and other heavy metals in it.

02:46:20.000 They're not tested at all.

02:46:21.000 So you can have certified organic food grown in China, imported into the United States, sold at health food stores that is heavily contaminated with lead, which causes developmental, you know, cognitive impairment in children.

02:46:35.000 And also causes mental retardation, which I think we're seeing in the culture. 1.00

02:46:38.000 So I hope that answers your question.

02:46:41.000 I got off on a little tangent there.

02:46:45.000 Anyway, but thanks for your call there, Mike.

02:46:46.000 Let's go to Eric in Tennessee.

02:46:49.000 Eric, you're on the air.

02:46:49.000 Go ahead.

02:46:51.000 Hey, Mike.

02:46:52.000 How's it going today, bud?

02:46:53.000 It's going pretty good.

02:46:54.000 I'm having a good time here today, trying to mix it up and inform people and not have it too boring at the same time.

02:47:03.000 Yeah, well, you went off on quite the tangent with the Napolitano thing there.

02:47:08.000 That was visually striking.

02:47:10.000 Yeah, wasn't it?

02:47:11.000 You like that idea of Michael Moore and Janet Napolitano in matrimony?

02:47:15.000 It's in my throat a little, you know?

02:47:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:47:20.000 I know the feeling.

02:47:22.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:47:23.000 I had just a couple of comments.

02:47:25.000 I mean, I see these guys like Snowden, and to me it looks like, I mean, It really takes me back to the Revolutionary War.

02:47:34.000 It's like they're running through the streets yelling the British are coming.

02:47:38.000 Yeah.

02:47:39.000 You know?

02:47:39.000 I mean, those are our guys.

02:47:41.000 And if the American people won't stand up for them and make more noise to get them back in this country and get them free, And let that information out?

02:47:52.000 I mean, we've already lost.

02:47:54.000 Well, yeah, that's the big issue, and that's what Snowden said was his greatest fear, is that the American people become aware of all of this, and then they sit back and do nothing.

02:48:03.000 And the theory of why that's happening, at least the theory here at InfoWars, and I agree with it, is that the people are so dumbed down, their brain numbed, zombies, in a very You know, it's the fluoride, it's the heavy metals in the food that we just talked about, it's the GMOs, it's all these things.

02:48:22.000 People are being stupefied.

02:48:24.000 That's not the correct use of that term, but they're being made into brain dead zombies by the chemical assault, which is deliberate, I believe.

02:48:36.000 Since I started listening to Alex Jones, it's been about a year and a half since I actually woke up and looked around and saw the disaster that was going on around me.

02:48:46.000 I've turned off my Dish Network completely. 0.94

02:48:49.000 I've cut myself off from all of that mainstream crap.

02:48:53.000 I don't even look at it online anymore. 0.89

02:48:56.000 I mean, I get my news directly from InfoWars.com.

02:48:59.000 I listen to Glenn Beck occasionally.

02:49:01.000 I know that's a no-no.

02:49:03.000 He does make some good points, and he does give tips to Alex Jones every once in a while, you know.

02:49:08.000 He will kind of nod his way, even though he says he tries to kill him, which I don't understand that.

02:49:14.000 No, I don't get that either.

02:49:15.000 I mean, yeah, I listen to Glenn Beck maybe once a month when somebody sends me a tip, but the last tip he had was it was going to be this huge announcement that would bring down the government, and I was like, wow, cool, Glenn Beck is going to do some big whistleblowing thing, and then the next day it was like nothing, and he never talked about it.

02:49:31.000 I don't know what happened.

02:49:33.000 I think he got pressured just like they got pressured in the UK and pulled that story from the paper.

02:49:37.000 Why would you pre-announce it?

02:49:39.000 If you have intelligence that's going to quote, bring down the government, you don't go on the air the day before and announce that you have that information.

02:49:48.000 Oh, you know, he was eating crow for a week over that, you know, but I mean, the government had to have leaned on him.

02:49:53.000 Somebody somewhere leaned on him and said, you know, you do this.

02:49:56.000 If you do this, you're a dead man.

02:49:58.000 Well, yeah. 0.95

02:49:58.000 I mean, if you have that information, you've got to get it out immediately so that you aren't the person that they can kill to stop it. 0.95

02:50:06.000 But see, to me, that was a big disappointment in Glenn Beck.

02:50:11.000 I know it can happen to anybody.

02:50:13.000 Maybe his source changed his mind, and so that promise was broken to him.

02:50:17.000 Maybe it's not his fault.

02:50:18.000 But I hear you.

02:50:18.000 I don't know.

02:50:20.000 Do you have another question?

02:50:21.000 Yeah, I have one more comment.

02:50:23.000 The Xbox 360 that they're replacing with the Xbox One, Uh, you know the, uh, the Kinect sensor that you put on the old 360?

02:50:30.000 Right, right.

02:50:32.000 I unplugged mine, like, a year ago.

02:50:34.000 Yeah, because it's watching you.

02:50:36.000 It unplugs from the back of the 360.

02:50:37.000 I don't know, you know, a lot of people don't seem to realize that, but you can just unplug that bad boy.

02:50:42.000 It's not as sensitive and it's not as good, but if you turn it on picture mode, that thing has a better camera than my back camera phone.

02:50:50.000 Well, not only can you unplug it, but you can take your Xbox 360 and you can set it on some cinder blocks and you can blast it with a Barrett 50 Cal.

02:50:58.000 That also renders it inoperable.

02:51:00.000 So that's what I would suggest to do in legal and lawful areas only.

02:51:06.000 But thanks for your calls.

02:51:06.000 More straight ahead.

02:51:07.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

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02:53:58.000 All right, we're back in the last segment here on the Alex Jones Show.

02:54:26.000 We're going to continue with your calls in a minute.

02:54:28.000 I want to plug this book that I think is really important for our time.

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02:55:07.000 Check out that book, and also check out this movie, State of Mind, The Psychology of Control.

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02:55:17.000 I can't wait to see this video.

02:55:19.000 Like I said, guys, I'm stealing this copy, okay?

02:55:22.000 I'm taking it home.

02:55:26.000 They said the case might be empty.

02:55:28.000 It's like your theft-proof copy here in the studio.

02:55:33.000 There's all kinds of interesting things here behind Alex's desk.

02:55:38.000 I'm not going to steal anything, I promise.

02:55:41.000 But State of Mind is one of the videos that... Oh, it ships out on the 15th of July.

02:55:46.000 Okay, let's go to your calls.

02:55:49.000 Jamie in Michigan.

02:55:50.000 Go ahead.

02:55:50.000 Jamie, you're on the air.

02:55:52.000 Hi, Mike.

02:55:53.000 Hey.

02:55:55.000 I had two comments and a question for you.

02:55:58.000 I'll try to make them quick.

02:55:59.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:56:00.000 The first comment is, I've been pretty awake since 9-11.

02:56:06.000 And I've, you know, progressively and progressively got more and more upset with not being able to figure out why, what to do about it.

02:56:13.000 And I watched Network.

02:56:15.000 And the movie where the guy freaks out on a newscast show.

02:56:19.000 Right.

02:56:19.000 And he gets all the people to scream Good advice.

02:56:21.000 People should exercise that.

02:56:21.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:56:22.000 I'm not going to take it anymore.

02:56:23.000 And I thought we should have a time at 1 p.m. at least one day a week.

02:56:28.000 You should voice your opinion.

02:56:29.000 Call your senator.

02:56:30.000 Call your congressman.

02:56:32.000 That's what I've been doing, calling Alex Jones show at 1 p.m.

02:56:35.000 Doing something to literally make your voice be heard.

02:56:37.000 Good advice.

02:56:38.000 People should exercise that.

02:56:38.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:56:39.000 But see, everybody's being scared into a state of cowardice where they think that voice on your opinion is not acceptable or politically correct.

02:56:49.000 You know, you're not supposed to speak out in America.

02:56:51.000 That's the new thing.

02:56:52.000 But those of us who aren't afraid, who are willing to stand up for liberty and say, I'm not afraid of you, our voices will be heard by those people who are.

02:56:59.000 That's right.

02:57:00.000 We do have some people on our side and it'll snowball effect 1 p.m.

02:57:05.000 I'm really trying to promote this month.

02:57:06.000 Everybody I know, I got a group.

02:57:08.000 I'm mad at telling I'm not going to take it anymore on Facebook for people to join up, trying to get people active.

02:57:15.000 All right.

02:57:15.000 So the group name is I'm not going to take it anymore.

02:57:18.000 I'm mad as hell.

02:57:19.000 I'm not going to take it anymore.

02:57:20.000 I'm mad as hell.

02:57:21.000 It has a little lock system next to it.

02:57:24.000 Group, you might have to ask to join.

02:57:24.000 It's open.

02:57:27.000 Accepting all invitations.

02:57:29.000 Alright.

02:57:30.000 Well, that's cool.

02:57:31.000 People, you can check out the group.

02:57:32.000 I'm mad as hell.

02:57:33.000 I'm not going to take it anymore.

02:57:34.000 Group on Facebook.

02:57:36.000 But I agree with you, Jamie, that we've got to voice our opinions.

02:57:36.000 Thanks for the call.

02:57:39.000 That's why I'm here.

02:57:40.000 I know that's why Alex is here as well.

02:57:42.000 Let's go to Michael in Texas.

02:57:44.000 Michael, welcome to the show.

02:57:47.000 Oh, thanks for taking my call, Mike.

02:57:50.000 Yeah, just a couple of things.

02:57:52.000 You are a favorite.

02:57:54.000 We're glad to have you on the show.

02:57:55.000 Anytime you come on, we're glad to have you here.

02:57:57.000 Oh, thank you, sir.

02:57:59.000 And I'd like to make a comment about Ronnie Rieferseed.

02:58:01.000 He is one fantastic info warrior.

02:58:03.000 He doesn't miss a commissioner's meeting.

02:58:03.000 Yeah.

02:58:05.000 He's down at City Hall every chance he gets.

02:58:08.000 And if all the listeners would at least put out half of that effort, we can get a whole lot further along down the road.

02:58:12.000 Well, I know.

02:58:13.000 Reefer Seed, and that's why they're trying to shut him up, because he's the guy who's actually out there asking questions of the city council.

02:58:19.000 I mean, everybody should be doing that.

02:58:21.000 Oh, hey, sir, Michael, I apologize, but we have reached the end of the show.

02:58:25.000 So I've got to let you go there.

02:58:27.000 But thank you all for listening today, and thank you for your calls.

02:58:31.000 Thank you for all of you for your support.

02:58:33.000 InfoWars.com is the website where you can check out the news, InfoWars Store, the products that support this broadcast.

02:58:38.000 Thank you, crew, for your great job today.

02:58:41.000 Thank all of you for putting up with me.

02:58:43.000 I'll be back whenever Alex asks me back.

02:58:45.000 This is Mike Adams signing off on the Alex Jones Show.

02:58:47.000 Take care, everybody.

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Alex Jones Show - July 01, 2013

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