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00:00:02.000 We've got it.

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00:00:09.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:00:13.000 It's Alex Jones, coming to you live from the front lines of the InfoWar.

00:00:23.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is the fourth day of August 2013.

00:00:34.000 On this live Sunday edition, I am your host Alex Jones.

00:00:39.000 We're going to be here as we are every Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

00:00:41.000 Central, for the next two hours.

00:00:47.000 This happens more and more when I'm about to start a broadcast that I just try to focus as much as I can to cover every bit of news and information we have and to try to lay it all out as best we can understand exactly what's happening.

00:01:05.000 I got here three hours before the show today and I prepared for the broadcast basically for about four hours before that at home.

00:01:17.000 And I think I'm almost like a race car driver or something that goes out and does a bunch of laps and almost practices too much beforehand.

00:01:25.000 Now, you know, some days I come in here 30 minutes before the show and don't do a lot of preparation because I already know what I want to talk about.

00:01:32.000 But when it gets into a subject like Benghazi, or it gets into a subject like the NSA, or a subject like Obamacare, or a subject like immigration reform, I start studying the subject, and then get so much knowledge, it's hard to put it all out there.

00:01:54.000 But I'm going to try to go over it all today.

00:01:58.000 I think the most amazing facet of it, and what kind of dumbfounds me personally, is that it's 100% Fact that the White House, Obama, the State Department, the CIA, the Pentagon, ordered a stand down.

00:02:20.000 And sat there and waited 14 hours to get people on the ground, and it took him over six hours to overrun the embassy substation arms cache and kill the people inside.

00:02:32.000 It was the front office of a large warehouse complex out back with thousands of heat-seeking missiles, anti-aircraft guns, rocket launchers, so both small, medium, and some heavy arms.

00:02:48.000 And I've spent the last day going back and digging up the Colonel Schaeffer interviews, the Wayne Madsen interviews, the Dr. Steve Pachenik interviews, where they all laid out in the days, weeks, and months after

00:03:11.000 Going back ten months ago to September 11th, last year, within just a few days and then weeks and months, they laid it all out that their sources said there was a stand-down ordered by Obama, that there was a giant arms cache there with the ambassador from Turkey being there, and that it was being transferred to Syria, and that the Benghazi security force

00:03:37.000 Had been ordered to basically go over and kill the ambassador and everybody inside by an unnamed group.

00:03:44.000 Who do you think pays them? 0.99

00:03:45.000 The White House.

00:03:47.000 To get rid of witnesses so they could basically have plausible deniability later and say, oh my gosh, Al Qaeda got all these missiles, we've got to take your rights away.

00:03:59.000 They've got thousands of missiles crippling Europe and the U.S.

00:04:03.000 We've got to set checkpoints up everywhere and take all your rights and have the TSA, you know, stick their hands down your pants everywhere because of Al Qaeda. 0.82

00:04:12.000 We laid all that out with our guests and our sources.

00:04:17.000 Who weren't speculating, they were told this by their CIA, FBI, Defense Department, State Department sources.

00:04:27.000 And then I went back last night, this morning, today, and I watched.

00:04:31.000 These hour-long interviews with Wayne Madsen, Colonel Schaffer's, Pachinick, Dr. Pachinick, and it was all exactly accurate.

00:04:40.000 Then I even found Kudlow Reports a month after we broke it with their witnesses saying the same thing on CNBC.

00:04:47.000 So all this big news coming out, because now CNN's reporting the same thing we've been saying the last few days, is that we've caught them red-handed.

00:04:56.000 There's no mystery to Benghazi. 1.00

00:04:58.000 We're gonna break all that down when we come back.

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00:05:59.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

00:06:13.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

00:06:15.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:06:32.000 I am your host, Alex Jones, and we are here six days a week live live.

00:06:38.000 You have just now tuned into the Sunday edition 4 to 6 p.m.

00:06:43.000 every single Sunday Central Time.

00:06:46.000 It is the fourth day of August 2013.

00:06:51.000 Ladies and gentlemen we have solved the Benghazi mystery and we solved it We solved it nine months ago, just a few weeks after the September 11th attack on the embassy substation that killed Ambassador Stevens and other CIA State Department personnel.

00:07:18.000 And we on record with an NSA whistleblower, Wayne Madsen, with the former head of State Department Psychological Warfare, Dr. Steve Pachinik, with the former head of Major Operations in Black Ops, Colonel Tony Schaffer, and other guests we had on.

00:07:36.000 And up on InfoWars.com right now, We have the confirmed Benghazi was cover-up of arms transfer to Al-Qaeda by Kurt Nemo and yours truly Alex Jones.

00:07:51.000 And we worked yesterday and today on this article that has from September of last year and October and November Seven different links, three of them posted.

00:08:07.000 Video interviews slash radio with Colonel Schaefer, Wayne Madsen, Dr. Steve Pachanek on the show first on our broadcast.

00:08:26.000 Breaking down exactly what happened at Benghazi.

00:08:30.000 And ladies and gentlemen, if I knew this a few days and a few weeks...

00:08:37.000 After the entire government in the State Department, the FBI, the CIA, the Defense Department, NATO, they all know.

00:08:44.000 There was two Predator drones over.

00:08:46.000 There was a C-130.

00:08:47.000 It took them 14 hours to get personnel there.

00:08:50.000 They stood down for over six hours to let them be killed.

00:08:54.000 That is a premeditated, deliberate stand-down.

00:08:56.000 And we have a Congresswoman who is a former ambassador saying only the President could order a stand-down of something of that magnitude.

00:09:06.000 on a State Department facility.

00:09:11.000 And that's what went on.

00:09:13.000 That's what happened.

00:09:14.000 Congresswoman Obama gave Benghazi a stand-down order.

00:09:20.000 And we're going to be going over Ann Wagner's comments, the Congresswoman, on that as well.

00:09:27.000 So the point is, is that you've got all this other incredibly important news.

00:09:31.000 We're going to get to that in the second hour.

00:09:32.000 We've got NSA whistleblower, Navy veteran Wayne Madsen joining us at the bottom of the hour to go over this.

00:09:40.000 But if you want to go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and click on the top red link story, confirm Benghazi was cover-up of arms transfer to Al-Qaeda, you will see my guest, With their sources in the Pentagon, the State Department, the NSA, the CIA, and NATO.

00:10:04.000 Madsen had just been in Libya right before that happened, by the way.

00:10:06.000 He actually goes to these places.

00:10:09.000 Writes for some of the biggest publications in the country.

00:10:11.000 They all laid it out.

00:10:12.000 Three different guests.

00:10:13.000 And I had some others on as well, but they were speculating.

00:10:16.000 These guys all had sources that said the same thing.

00:10:21.000 And by the way, when Colonel Schaeffer was on the broadcast, he ran Stratus IV and other major programs, could have killed Bin Laden twice in order to stand down in 2000 and 2001, testified in the 9-11 hearings.

00:10:31.000 He was called in and threatened, because he teaches at the Army War College and also runs some other think tanks, and is also a contributor to Fox News, but he was called in and threatened when he came on my show and said that, and couldn't come on for like six, seven months after that happened.

00:10:51.000 And is only now able to come on the show.

00:10:53.000 I mean, it was a total freak-out when he came on and said what he said.

00:10:56.000 And what did he say?

00:10:57.000 Heat-seeking missiles were transferred out of three giant warehouses.

00:11:03.000 You can look at the Google Maps of this, that were controlled by that building behind it, filled with all of these heavy, medium, and light weapons.

00:11:10.000 We're talking thousands of over 10,000 heat-seeking missiles missing in Libya.

00:11:15.000 Several thousand.

00:11:16.000 I also talked off-record to an Air Force colonel.

00:11:22.000 I talked to an Air Force colonel here in Austin, Texas.

00:11:27.000 I'll just leave it at that.

00:11:30.000 I talked to an Air Force colonel in person that said, yes, they got most of the 10,000 heat-seeking missiles, and there were thousands in that building alone.

00:11:40.000 And you had the Turkish ambassador, the foreign minister, there meeting hours before.

00:11:46.000 My guest broke that!

00:11:48.000 Months and months before it was in the news, and if you just tuned in, what am I getting at here?

00:11:54.000 CNN Thursday night came out, and we're going to play clips of this after the break.

00:12:00.000 CNN came out and said, oh, we're breaking that there were 35 CIA operatives in warehouses behind the building.

00:12:13.000 And that there were missiles and heat-seeking missiles in there.

00:12:17.000 Now, we broke this here, okay?

00:12:19.000 And I don't want the credit.

00:12:20.000 I just want people to understand, we don't make stuff up.

00:12:23.000 I told you a year and a half ago, right after the Navy SEALs, 20 plus, what was it, 23 Navy SEALs blew up on a Chinook aircraft in a fake mission and then were attacked once they hit the ground.

00:12:36.000 That I talked to a Navy SEAL who's a friend of the family, one of my dad's friends, he's friends with his father, we've known him for over a decade, you know, enough to come over to barbecues at my parents' house.

00:12:46.000 And they said, no, no, he's in another SEAL team, I'm not going to say the SEAL team, but that everybody that they talked to in SEAL Team 6 knows there was a bomb on the helicopter.

00:12:55.000 And it was the setup.

00:12:56.000 Well, I told you that over a year ago, now that's Fox News, that's Associated Press, since Michael Savage had some of the families on saying it two weeks ago.

00:13:05.000 And then that forced them to cover it.

00:13:07.000 And we're in contact with the families as well.

00:13:10.000 But they've been scared to come on so far.

00:13:12.000 These are actual families that lost family.

00:13:15.000 Not the SEAL I knew, an active duty who has friends in SEAL Team 6.

00:13:20.000 I don't make stuff up, you understand?

00:13:22.000 And I know real information when I get it.

00:13:25.000 We broke the Homeland Security documents saying veterans and gun owners and Tea Party people are the main terror threat.

00:13:31.000 Remember that four years ago?

00:13:34.000 People didn't believe it at first?

00:13:35.000 We just continue to break bombshell after bombshell.

00:13:39.000 So understand, I'm working seven days a week.

00:13:44.000 I'll be honest, I can't even be home now with my wife and children.

00:13:47.000 They're so innocent, they're so good.

00:13:48.000 I just think, my God, they're not safe if I don't go fight this.

00:13:51.000 I cannot, I don't even go home basically anymore.

00:13:56.000 Because when I'm there, all I'm thinking about is this.

00:13:58.000 And fighting it.

00:14:00.000 That's how real this is, ladies and gentlemen.

00:14:02.000 That's how in the game for this republic and freedom I am.

00:14:05.000 And I don't know where the other talk show hosting people are.

00:14:08.000 You think you're just going to play games with the new world order?

00:14:10.000 You're going to play games with the corrupt corporate mafias that have taken over our government? 1.00

00:14:14.000 You think any of you are going to have a future?

00:14:16.000 You think your bank accounts, your pension funds, your jobs are safe?

00:14:20.000 Nobody's safe until we wake up as a country and get our nation back on track.

00:14:25.000 We've never been perfect, folks, but we've never been this corrupt and this overrun by special interests.

00:14:31.000 And corrupt forces have never, never gotten away with things at this magnitude.

00:14:38.000 You think I'm happy that we were all proven right from ten months ago, nine and a half months ago?

00:14:45.000 I guess it was about nine months, nine and a half months ago, we broke this.

00:14:49.000 And I sat there on Thursday and Friday going, didn't we report this first?

00:14:53.000 I went and looked at it Friday and I looked at it Saturday and I'm like, InfoWars.com and my contacts and who we had on the air, we broke that and then we're so forward-looking fighting the next globalist threat, the next authoritarian wave, that we weren't even going to report on the fact that we broke all this.

00:15:13.000 And then, weeks after we broke all this, credit where it's due, the Kudlow Report.

00:15:18.000 But I gotta be honest, that show continues to actually tell the truth on so many issues.

00:15:24.000 Like when the foreign banks brag they've conquered us, they show the headline.

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00:15:31.000 They report it.

00:15:32.000 We're going to play that clip that it was an arms deal.

00:15:36.000 But the whole issue here is, there's no debate there was a standout.

00:15:41.000 The only question is, did they go, oh, it's embarrassing that our Al-Qaeda buddies are killing people.

00:15:45.000 Let's just say it was from a movie and whitewash it.

00:15:48.000 Or did they send them in to kill them so that there's dead men tell no tales of why Al-Qaeda was given thousands of missiles.

00:15:55.000 Which the system is going to use then as a threat against the West to take all of our liberties.

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00:20:39.000 So here's the issue.

00:20:40.000 You can go up to InfoWars.com, see our article with the YouTube stamped, because we're also a TV show, not just radio, YouTube stamped uploads from a week after With the September 11th attack in Benghazi last year, two weeks after, three weeks after, a month after, two months after, laying it out first, everything that happened in Benghazi.

00:21:04.000 And why is that important?

00:21:06.000 Well, the next media outlet that I saw to tell the truth from their sources was the November 11th program on CNBC, the Kudlow Report.

00:21:17.000 With John Batchelor, who I continue to see tell the truth.

00:21:21.000 I mean, gotta give credit where credit's due.

00:21:23.000 He may... I can't vouch for him on every subject.

00:21:25.000 I don't watch it routinely.

00:21:26.000 I just continue to see clips where that guy, you know, is getting accurate information.

00:21:30.000 And I wish this wasn't true. 0.61

00:21:31.000 I wish it was just a group of out-of-control jihadis that went and killed some people.

00:21:36.000 I wouldn't be happy about that, but it's a lot less scary Then, well, wait a minute.

00:21:41.000 My sources said that they hired several hundred local Al-Qaeda militia, the same ones that they put in charge in Benghazi when they used that as a base of operations against Gaddafi, NATO, Obama, the globalist.

00:21:55.000 And Congress had some issues with that, obviously, arming Al-Qaeda there.

00:22:00.000 And then they were using it to arm out of Libya the weapons left over from that war and Qaddafi stockpiles that were pretty high-tech, including British, US, and French-made missiles, heat-seekers, to then give those to al-Qaeda, that is the main force, attacking Assad in Syria, to then turn that country over to al-Qaeda. 0.56

00:22:20.000 And again, I've been telling you this for over two years, now it's mainstream news, that yes, al-Qaeda makes up over 60% of the main fighters against Assad.

00:22:31.000 Again, showing that our so-called government is using these people to destabilize the world and as a pretext to take our liberties.

00:22:39.000 And I'm going to explain how this works in a moment.

00:22:41.000 But this is a big deal that this has now been confirmed because you have Colonel Schaefer and Wayne Madsen coming up in the next segment and Dr. Pachinic and all these government sources we have and an Air Force colonel separately that I talked to off-record.

00:22:58.000 Just a month after it happened.

00:23:01.000 All confirmed what is just widely known.

00:23:04.000 The Air Force colonel said it is widely known.

00:23:07.000 Anybody with an intelligence clearance knows it because it was in situation rooms in the Pentagon, situation rooms in Lanley, Virginia at the CIA, the NSA, on the aircraft carriers, the Mediterranean, at the NATO headquarters.

00:23:20.000 They all had feeds of it happening in high def from the predators.

00:23:27.000 And he said he talked to people that were on duty and witnessed it and people sat there as it played out hour after hour.

00:23:34.000 It's one thing if you drop a missile and then a kid walks outside the, you know, the hut, you go, oh my gosh, we killed a kid.

00:23:40.000 It's another thing to sit there and watch people killed and fighting back hour after hour and being ordered to stand down.

00:23:50.000 And then to see it all lied about in the media.

00:23:54.000 That's why Benghazi is so dangerous for the Obamanoids. 1.00

00:23:58.000 And so there was a stand down.

00:24:00.000 The security that they hired to run Benghazi was the group, we have their name, the list, all of it that went and did the killing.

00:24:10.000 But they had inside knowledge of how to attack a facility.

00:24:13.000 That's now come out.

00:24:14.000 Everything we were told came out later to be confirmed.

00:24:17.000 And now CNN and the London Telegraph and AP and others are saying, yes, we've talked to CIA people.

00:24:24.000 They're being given monthly polygraphs, something that's usually done every two years, to find out if they're talking to the media, to cover up what's happening.

00:24:31.000 And these people are so mad about what happened, they tell us it was an arms deal and it was missiles and heat-seeking missiles.

00:24:38.000 I mean, boom!

00:24:39.000 That's Jack Tapper reporting that.

00:24:42.000 So let's go to a small clip from that full report that we have linked up on InfoWars.com.

00:24:47.000 Nine plus months after we told you first, again, we know what we're talking about.

00:24:53.000 This has now come out.

00:24:54.000 And the bigger issue is, if we know, if Alex Jones knows, if my guests know, The whole system knows, okay?

00:25:02.000 So this is not a mystery to people in government. 0.96

00:25:05.000 This is not a mystery to the media whores. 1.00

00:25:07.000 Let's go to this clip. 0.62

00:25:08.000 Lawmakers want to know about what happened with the terrorist attacks.

00:25:10.000 There's this question of the weapons in Libya that were there and what happened to them.

00:25:15.000 Yeah, the speculation on Capitol Hill has included that, Jake.

00:25:19.000 The possibility that the U.S. 0.89

00:25:20.000 agencies operating in Benghazi were actually secretly helping to move specifically service-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels.

00:25:31.000 We know two U.S.

00:25:33.000 agencies operating in Benghazi.

00:25:34.000 One was the State Department and the other was the CIA.

00:25:37.000 The State Department told us they were only helping the new Libyan government destroy weapons that were deemed damaged, aged, or too unsafe to retain, and that the State Department was not involved in any transfer of weapons to other countries.

00:25:52.000 But the State Department, Jake, clearly told us they can't speak for any other agencies, meaning the CIA.

00:25:58.000 And when you start talking about missions, the CIA just flatly would not go on record.

00:26:03.000 All right.

00:26:04.000 Now, ladies and gentlemen, we know they're the warehouses.

00:26:07.000 We were told by just, I mean, the guy that co-wrote Tom Clancy's books, for heaven's sakes.

00:26:12.000 That's how high up Dr. Pchenik is.

00:26:14.000 Former head of black ops, psych warfare.

00:26:17.000 Basically, for the whole government.

00:26:18.000 That that happened within weeks of it going on.

00:26:20.000 Well, actually, it was on days after that I had him on earlier this year.

00:26:25.000 Then, we, again, had all these other witnesses on.

00:26:29.000 Colonel Schaefer, Wayne Madsen is coming up in the next segment.

00:26:32.000 Now, let's give credit where credit's due.

00:26:35.000 Weeks after we break this, CNBC, Benghazi is not about Libya.

00:26:42.000 It's about the NSC operation.

00:26:45.000 Exactly what Pchenik said.

00:26:48.000 Moving weapons into Turkey to Al-Qaeda out of Libya.

00:26:56.000 Here is that clip from nine months ago.

00:26:59.000 Benghazi is not about Libya.

00:27:01.000 Benghazi is about the policy of the Obama administration to involve the United States without clarity to the American people not only in Libya but throughout the whole of the Arab world now in turmoil.

00:27:14.000 Benghazi is about the NSC directing an operation that is perhaps shadowy, perhaps has a presidential finding, perhaps doesn't, that takes arms and men and puts them into Syria in the guise of the Free Syrian Army.

00:27:29.000 This is a very large story, Larry, and it's right in front of us for the second term.

00:27:34.000 Boy, this thing's going to unravel like crazy.

00:27:36.000 It's going to unravel like crazy.

00:27:37.000 Alright, let's stop right there.

00:27:39.000 Absolutely, it's going to unravel like crazy.

00:27:42.000 And when we were covering this ten months ago, nine months ago, we were the conspiracy theorists.

00:27:46.000 I mean, these are real guests, real people that have proven accurate over and over and over again.

00:27:52.000 The mainstream media, most of the time, is trying to lie to you and keep you in the dark, folks. 0.99

00:27:56.000 Everybody knows the truth who isn't completely stupid. 0.98

00:28:00.000 Just most people in the system play along with the lie. 0.91

00:28:02.000 I want to play Representative Ann Wagner, who was also an ambassador just a few months ago, saying only Obama could give the stand-down order as we go out to break.

00:28:11.000 And last quick question I have for you, Congresswoman, because you have been an ambassador, you have been overseas with similar responsibilities and similar missions, who gives such an order to stand down?

00:28:25.000 Where does that come from?

00:28:26.000 The President of the United States.

00:28:28.000 The President of the United States.

00:28:32.000 Alright, when we come back, we're going to get Wayne Madsen.

00:28:35.000 He formerly worked in one of the security details over the NSA, now known as the Q Group.

00:28:42.000 That's the people that keep the secrets secret.

00:28:45.000 He's going to be coming on with us to break down, now nine months after he broke all this here, any other details we have and ask, what does it mean that all this is now beginning to come out?

00:28:56.000 Has the dam broke on Benghazi?

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00:33:22.000 Again, thank you for joining us on this live Sunday edition.

00:33:40.000 We've been talking about Benghazi and what it means.

00:33:44.000 I mean, why would they want to order a stand-down and let people be killed?

00:33:48.000 Bare minimum, they ordered a stand-down.

00:33:49.000 That's come out.

00:33:50.000 There was a stand-down.

00:33:51.000 They're threatening everybody.

00:33:53.000 They're acting totally paranoid.

00:33:55.000 They've been caught lying.

00:33:56.000 We know there were arms being transferred.

00:33:59.000 But did they go in there to get rid of the State Department because the State Department wouldn't transfer the heat-seeking missiles to Al-Qaeda?

00:34:06.000 That's now being discussed on CNN.

00:34:09.000 That's now what the CIA whistleblowers are telling CNN and Reuters and AP.

00:34:17.000 This is so big.

00:34:18.000 We're going to get to that with Wayne Madsen, NSA whistleblower in his own right, who's testified to Congress, the EU, you name it.

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00:37:00.000 Going to Wayne Madsen of WayneMadsenReport.com.

00:37:05.000 He's a syndicated columnist, written for some of the biggest papers in the country, reported on major national news stories on national security, helped found what the Electronic Frontier Foundation and other groups has testified to the EU, the Congress, In the first wave of NSA exposure, 15 years ago and then 12 years ago with James Bamford, the producer of Nightline, Body of Secrets, so much of what's come out on the NSA was actually broken by Wayne Madsen.

00:37:32.000 And Wayne Madsen was in a unique position to understand all of this because he worked in internal security at the NSA watching the watchers.

00:37:42.000 And it's said that they actually follow the law up until, well, just the last decade or so.

00:37:48.000 So we're going to be breaking that down with Wayne into the next hour a little bit, but first I wanted to get into Benghazi with him, because if you look at the layers of the onion here, folks, Wayne Madsen, Steve Pachinick, Dr. Pachinick, and Colonel Schaefer, who works at the highest level of black ops, all said the same thing in the week The month and the months after.

00:38:10.000 And their interviews are all up on InfoWars.com.

00:38:13.000 Insider, Wayne Madsen and others exposed the confirmed Benghazi was cover-up of arms transfer to Al-Qaeda.

00:38:22.000 And why are we going back to this now?

00:38:24.000 Because we said it first, then CNBC of all places, DrugsReport.com covered it within a month of it as well.

00:38:34.000 But the establishment, prostitute, parrot media, the state-run media, to a large extent, just said it was no big deal.

00:38:43.000 A film made people mad when that film had been out for months with a trailer for it.

00:38:47.000 So now it's confirmed it was about arms transfer.

00:38:50.000 So the question is, this is what Wayne said nine months ago, I'm going to ask him now, the question is, A, did the attack start, it was the Benghazi hired security by the State Department, by the CIA, by the National Security Council.

00:39:05.000 They didn't want to be embarrassed, so just let them kill them and then they'll get the weapons and we'll use the terror threat later to take rights.

00:39:11.000 Or, I think the evidence points towards this, they sent them in to wipe them out, but Navy SEALs showed up who didn't follow orders to stand down and pinned down the Al Qaeda people for six plus hours until the cover-up became evident.

00:39:24.000 Regardless, there's been a cover-up.

00:39:26.000 Regardless, there's been a stand-down.

00:39:28.000 Wayne Madsen of waynemadsenreport.com, thank you so much for coming on.

00:39:32.000 I know it's a scary position.

00:39:34.000 You had to leave the country last year after this for a few months because of death threats.

00:39:38.000 This is not a game, folks.

00:39:40.000 This is not a joke.

00:39:41.000 Look at Michael Hastings, they blew up.

00:39:45.000 We're all sad about being right.

00:39:47.000 We wish we were wrong, but now in hindsight, and now as you've been proven absolutely accurate, What happened here?

00:39:55.000 What is your latest intel?

00:39:56.000 What are your sources saying?

00:39:58.000 Well, it's what I said originally.

00:40:00.000 I think there were a lot of things at play in Benghazi.

00:40:04.000 I think, yes, I think the U.S.

00:40:07.000 had supplied weapons to the Libyan rebels, and then obviously when the Syria thing happened, they wanted to transfer not only weapons, but some of these Islamist fighters from the Libyan campaign to the Syrian campaign.

00:40:21.000 And obviously Stevens, the ambassador, was a part of this.

00:40:27.000 The other thing, this wasn't a U.S., really a U.S.

00:40:29.000 Embassy operation in Benghazi.

00:40:32.000 It was a CIA station operating under diplomatic cover.

00:40:35.000 How many people We're going in there and getting visas to visit the United States.

00:40:40.000 That's usually what the purpose of embassies is.

00:40:43.000 Issue visas, protect U.S. 0.67

00:40:44.000 citizens.

00:40:44.000 And you said that last year.

00:40:45.000 It's now confirmed it was a CIA op.

00:40:47.000 And so we see the rats leaving the sinking ship as State Department points the finger at CIA.

00:40:47.000 Yeah.

00:40:53.000 Yeah, now we know lots of CIA personnel were on the ground in Benghazi.

00:40:58.000 And then the other thing is, what happened right after Obama was re-elected?

00:41:03.000 We had General Petraeus, the CIA director, basically fired over an extramarital affair that was known about before he was fired.

00:41:12.000 We also know that Mitt Romney during a campaign said, we need an October surprise.

00:41:18.000 Uh, for this campaign.

00:41:20.000 So, obviously there was an interest by many parties in setting the stage for some incident at some embassy.

00:41:27.000 It turns out it was Benghazi, that anti-Islamic movie that came out.

00:41:32.000 Yes, it had been out, but look how that thing was hyped around the world.

00:41:36.000 And, you know, the people that, some of the actors that were in that were porn actors in Hollywood.

00:41:42.000 And FBI informants.

00:41:43.000 But I mean, here's my question for you.

00:41:45.000 Bottom line, Did they order the hit of the ambassador to cover up the weapons transfer?

00:41:51.000 Or was it the security force, the Al-Qaeda force they'd hired, that got out of hand?

00:41:56.000 Yeah, I think it got out of hand.

00:41:58.000 I think, you know, look, the CIA controls Al-Qaeda.

00:42:02.000 They're controlling them in Syria.

00:42:03.000 They control them in Libya.

00:42:05.000 I would suggest that the Patsy's used, and you know, one could argue whether they were even connected to Al-Qaeda.

00:42:12.000 We were told that by the Tony 9-11 Commission.

00:42:14.000 The ones used in 9-11.

00:42:16.000 We know that one of them was an Egyptian Air Force colonel named Mohammed Atta that spent a heck of a lot of time at the officers club at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.

00:42:25.000 He doesn't sound like my idea of a run-of-the-mill Al Qaeda operative.

00:42:29.000 He sounds like a run-of-the-mill CIA operative.

00:42:32.000 So, you know, we control this bin Laden and Al Qaeda. 0.99

00:42:37.000 And now when it's convenient for NSA to turn on the fear machine again, Al Qaeda, a chatter between Al Qaeda leaders.

00:42:46.000 That's where I'm going next.

00:42:47.000 I haven't gotten, we're going to come back to you Wayne.

00:42:50.000 That's where we're going next.

00:42:51.000 With right as all this Benghazi breaks, right as all this comes down, oh my gosh, close all the embassies, Al Qaeda is going to attack. 0.62

00:42:59.000 We'll cover that when we come back.

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00:47:14.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:47:22.000 I haven't even gotten yet to the issue that Wayne Madsen joining us just raised as we went to break.

00:47:37.000 The End You have our so-called government, a collection of foreign, corporate, offshore, above-the-law, diplomatic community crooks.

00:47:47.000 You have them founding Saudi Arabia, creating the Wahhabis, creating Al-Qaeda. 1.00

00:47:57.000 Turning Egypt over to them, turning Libya over to them, turning Syria preemptively over to them, giving them heavy weapons on record, and then lobbying to get Congress to authorize more heavy weapons. 0.86

00:48:10.000 And the Council on Foreign Relations about a year ago had the quote, we've shown it many times, we need al-Qaeda.

00:48:16.000 They make up over 60% of the best fighters.

00:48:20.000 The Al Qaeda flags, chanting they're going to blow America up after they've taken down Assad.

00:48:25.000 We've written countless articles and shown you those videos.

00:48:28.000 And then Lindsey Graham, the anti-gun, pro-open border, John McCain 2.0 slimebag, comes out today and says, I agree with Obama, I met with the Vice President.

00:48:42.000 This is scary.

00:48:44.000 We need to close all the embassies and be scared.

00:48:47.000 Al Qaeda is on steroids, they're coming to get us. 0.92

00:48:52.000 It is so frightening.

00:48:53.000 Give up all your rights.

00:48:56.000 Do what I say or the monsters will get you.

00:48:58.000 Al Qaeda is what they use to take all our liberties here in America. 0.89

00:49:04.000 It's so obvious. 0.98

00:49:06.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.84

00:49:07.000 I want to play a clip of that and then go back to Wayne Madsen to talk about how serious this is because they might actually have some of their Al Qaeda forces blow something up. 0.91

00:49:17.000 And again, some of the mid-level and low-level jihadis actually believe they're attacking America.

00:49:21.000 They'll follow orders from guys up on top.

00:49:23.000 Most of them born in America, turns out, are really CIA.

00:49:26.000 Because CIA isn't America, folks.

00:49:28.000 It's a bunch of foreign interests that have infiltrated it and totally control it.

00:49:32.000 And that's congressional hearings that have admitted that.

00:49:34.000 So let's go to Graham.

00:49:36.000 Fear-mongering, saying it's scary, you need to be scared, and forget all the other news, the NSA spying, and just do what they say or Al-Qaeda will blow you and your family up.

00:49:48.000 Here's the scary clip.

00:49:50.000 As you watch this unfold, what does it, what is your general impression here?

00:49:56.000 This looks, if you're an ordinary American, looks pretty scary.

00:50:00.000 Scary.

00:50:02.000 Well, I had a briefing with the Vice President.

00:50:04.000 It is scary.

00:50:05.000 Al-Qaeda is on the rise in this part of the world.

00:50:09.000 NSA program is proving its worth yet again.

00:50:13.000 We're spying on you to keep you safe from the Al-Qaeda we run. 1.00

00:50:18.000 Has to be fixed.

00:50:19.000 If this happens a year from now, our intelligence communities and military will be less capable.

00:50:25.000 They need more power, absolutely.

00:50:27.000 That's where the war is going.

00:50:28.000 We should all wear cameras inside our bodies to make sure Al-Qaeda... We're about to withdraw from Afghanistan. 0.99

00:50:33.000 I don't want Afghanistan to become Iraq where we withdraw all of our troops. 0.90

00:50:36.000 You need that opium, huh?

00:50:37.000 Terrorism comes back, you know.

00:50:39.000 Western Afghanistan is a safe haven for Al-Qaeda. 0.98

00:50:42.000 Al-Qaeda?

00:50:44.000 Safe haven?

00:50:44.000 Like Syria and Libya?

00:50:46.000 Oh good!

00:50:46.000 Oh you did?

00:50:47.000 Yay Obama! 1.00

00:50:48.000 Let's get rid of the Republican rhino who wants your guns and open borders and who looks like a complete psychopath. 1.00

00:50:53.000 We've learned from Benghazi. 1.00

00:50:54.000 Oh, you did.

00:50:56.000 And the administration's doing this right.

00:50:58.000 Oh, good.

00:50:59.000 Yay, Obama. 1.00

00:51:00.000 Let's get rid of the Republican rhino who wants your guns at open borders and who looks like a complete psychopath. 1.00

00:51:07.000 I mean, I would not. 0.98

00:51:08.000 If I walked in a restaurant and my waiter looked like Lindsey Graham and had eyes like that, I'd get up and leave.

00:51:14.000 I mean, I get shivers up my spine.

00:51:16.000 And by the way, we know about Mr. Graham.

00:51:18.000 Oh boy, let me tell you.

00:51:22.000 Clowning around.

00:51:23.000 Okay, Wayne, we're going to get into more issues in the next hour, but you've got the floor on this issue.

00:51:27.000 Break down what we're dealing with, with these threats.

00:51:32.000 Well, suppose that embassies that are being targeted and just the fear-mongering with CNN going, this is scary, isn't it?

00:51:40.000 Yeah, I mean, isn't it amazing that so-called news reporters like Ate Too Much Candy Crowley is talking to Miss South Carolina about scary things?

00:51:51.000 Look, this has made out a whole plot, this chatter that was intercepted because NSA has to push back against Congress.

00:52:01.000 Congress is actually growing a pair now and starting to talk about limiting the power that NSA has to conduct this surveillance in total violation of the Fourth Amendment.

00:52:12.000 Which they admit is targeting the press and not Al-Qaeda they run.

00:52:15.000 Yeah, so what we have here, you've got, you know, Miss South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, you've got Saxby Chambliss, you know, the draft dodger from Georgia.

00:52:25.000 He's been engaged in this This rhetorical flourish.

00:52:28.000 You know, the guy who called Max Cleveland, who left three limbs in South Vietnam, called him a coward during the campaign.

00:52:35.000 And then you've got Peter King, this guy who supported the provisional wing of the Irish Republican Army talking about terrorism.

00:52:45.000 And you know, my sources in British intelligence told me who were in New York following this guy in the 1970s and 80s said, Peter King was not only raising money but providing material for the provisional wing of the IRA that committed acts of terrorism in Northern Ireland, in the UK.

00:53:04.000 I was on London Underground trains where I was forced to evacuate because of suspicious packages found during an IRA bombing campaign in London and we've got this guy Peter King talking about terrorism.

00:53:18.000 He's a terrorist! 0.97

00:53:19.000 This fat, gaelic terrorist has the nerve to be talking about terrorism and now he wants to run for President of the United States. 1.00

00:53:27.000 These politicians are revolting, disgusting, nauseating. 0.99

00:53:31.000 To hear these guys on these Sunday talk shows with these talking heads like Candy Crowley and these other nimrods talking about that all they're doing is feeding the fear factor on behalf of NSA. 0.99

00:53:45.000 We know now that NSA is using propagandists, using social networking to go after people like Tom Drake, and William Binney, and Russ Tice, and all these others who have blown the whistle on NSA.

00:53:59.000 Are you kidding?

00:54:00.000 They're using social network to go after me?

00:54:02.000 People need to know, all these trolls attacking us folks, it's because we're up here breaking the news.

00:54:09.000 Yeah, what am I, you know, what am I paying money to the Naval, my tax money goes to the U.S.

00:54:13.000 Naval War College.

00:54:14.000 I hold an International Relations Certificate from that college.

00:54:19.000 And there's a professor up there who engages in constant Twitter campaigns against people like myself, against you, against Russ Tice, against Tom Drake, against others.

00:54:29.000 You know, what are we paying the salaries of these people to attack us for?

00:54:36.000 You know, I'm just disgusted by it and insulted by it and I think we're the ones, you know, he says he's, you know, people like that say they're not speaking on behalf of the government.

00:54:45.000 When he was on the Chris Hayes Show on MSNBC with Professor U.S.

00:54:50.000 Naval War College right under his name.

00:54:52.000 I defy that person that told me that he's not speaking.

00:54:55.000 Let's expand on this.

00:54:56.000 The open announcement That they're going to have Pentagon squads, PR squads, every federal agency.

00:55:04.000 Social Security is going to do counterintelligence against their recipients.

00:55:09.000 The government is getting on a war footing against the American people and announcing the gloves are off and that they're going to engage in psyops or lies against us.

00:55:18.000 What does that signify?

00:55:20.000 This has been going on for a while, but what does it signify they're bringing it out in the open?

00:55:24.000 Well, I remember old K.S.

00:55:25.000 Leinstein, he was basically Obama's information czar.

00:55:29.000 He's out of there, but you know, his wife's a U.S. 0.95

00:55:33.000 ambassador to the U.N., Samantha Power, so the policy will continue.

00:55:37.000 No, you're right, that's in the news, that they're running it.

00:55:40.000 Our government, they go, it's legal for us to have psyops attack citizens in press now. 0.96

00:55:46.000 It's also legal for me to go after these sock puppets and these PSYOP organizers and these people who are on the government payroll who engage in this.

00:55:46.000 Yeah, good.

00:55:56.000 It's fine for me to go after them.

00:55:57.000 Exactly, but I mean, look, just because there was a law before and they say there isn't a law now, this is what the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany did. 0.62

00:56:06.000 It's called denouncing.

00:56:07.000 Denouncing.

00:56:08.000 Yeah.

00:56:09.000 They are really showing who they are.

00:56:11.000 That's right, you know, in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, East Germany, with the Stasi, how did you go after people?

00:56:18.000 You had the neighbors and their colleagues denounce them.

00:56:21.000 Denounce them to the media, denounce them to the government, denounce them to the public.

00:56:26.000 And this is exactly what's going on today in this country.

00:56:29.000 It's, you know, it's the...

00:56:32.000 It's so un-American. 0.91

00:56:33.000 It defies logic.

00:56:35.000 Well, meanwhile, all we're doing is exposing the looting of the banks, the looting of our rights, the killing of the ambassador.

00:56:43.000 I see this as signs of desperation.

00:56:45.000 What's the mood in DC?

00:56:49.000 Look, amongst the intelligence community, those who have not been sucked into the machine that causes your brain to get scrambled and you drink the purple Kool-Aid, you know, the Jonestown beverage of choice, if you're not in that category, your morale is very low.

00:57:06.000 People in NSA, you know, they're not all buying into this.

00:57:11.000 There's people there that know that what people like Snowden have said and others is the truth.

00:57:17.000 But look, that Q group you mentioned earlier, that's internal NSA security.

00:57:22.000 They've become a police force within a police force, an intelligence agency within an intelligence agency.

00:57:27.000 They're requiring all kinds of checks now.

00:57:30.000 They've got this, like, snitch on your colleague program.

00:57:34.000 And that has been extended all through the whole federal government.

00:57:37.000 And they're doing monthly polygraph tests.

00:57:39.000 I mean, this is a flaming authoritarian government.

00:57:42.000 Obama is persecuting the press.

00:57:44.000 They're calling him Nixon on steroids.

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01:00:03.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:00:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:15.000 By the way, after Wayne leaves us, I'll get into this breaking news at InfoWars.com.

01:00:21.000 Insider blows the whistle on military takeover plan.

01:00:23.000 It's really a DHS takeover plan at a military base.

01:00:26.000 Why would the U.S.

01:00:27.000 government need a mock U.S.

01:00:28.000 town at Fort... How do you pronounce that?

01:00:31.000 Chafee?

01:00:33.000 Arkansas.

01:00:35.000 So we're going to be getting into that report that's up on InfoWars.com and all the photos of it.

01:00:42.000 Going back to Wayne Madsen.

01:00:43.000 Wayne, I want to get specifically into some of the other scandals and also in the next segment open the phones up so people can ask you questions, but I really want to get, because I know you have a lot of government sources and others, how far is this going to go?

01:00:57.000 Because I mean, even the Washington Post, I saw a story yesterday, said, oh, Obama succeeded where Nixon failed.

01:01:05.000 And it was like, he knows how to persecute the press.

01:01:08.000 It's kind of cool when he does.

01:01:10.000 And he knows how to persecute people that whistleblow corruption.

01:01:12.000 And then you've got John McCain saying, attack Russia, and all this bizarreness over Snowden.

01:01:19.000 I mean, I know they're tyrants and they've taken us over, but it's also kind of comical That it's so dysfunctional and obviously illegal everything they're doing.

01:01:34.000 Yeah, it's to the point now.

01:01:35.000 You know, they've got everybody now.

01:01:37.000 Our sources, investigative journalist sources, have dried up for the most part.

01:01:43.000 They're scared.

01:01:45.000 They've been frozen.

01:01:45.000 We know with the wiretapping of the Associated Press and Fox News and other journals, New York Times, myself, we can't get people to talk.

01:01:57.000 But look, that doesn't mean there's still not people in the government that know this garbage is being invented embassies closures, this is what the government's not telling you.

01:02:10.000 First of all, the list was odd. 0.92

01:02:12.000 There's a lot of Arab and Muslim embassies and consulates in Arab and Muslim countries that were shut down for today.

01:02:21.000 Plus, they're shut down on the weekend usually anyways.

01:02:25.000 Yeah, and now they say they're going to be shut down.

01:02:28.000 Many are going to be shut down for the following week.

01:02:32.000 But we have to remember, on the 7th of August to the 8th, it's the celebration of Eid al-Fitr.

01:02:38.000 It's the end of Ramadan.

01:02:39.000 Everybody, you know, the fasting is over.

01:02:42.000 It's, you know, food and partying and that type of thing.

01:02:46.000 So obviously you're going to have closures anyway this week.

01:02:49.000 This thing is made out of old cloth.

01:02:51.000 I looked at the list though.

01:02:53.000 It was very funny that Not among the embassies closed was Islamabad, where Kerry had to walk back something.

01:03:00.000 He said, he said, well, you know, we're going to stop using drones on Pakistan and he had to walk that back.

01:03:04.000 That was obviously a political decision not to close the embassy in Islamabad because tensions are very high now between the US and Pakistan.

01:03:12.000 Also not closed were the embassy in Beirut.

01:03:15.000 Now, we're told that there's a significant problem with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

01:03:19.000 Well, they didn't close that embassy, so obviously there is no problem with Hezbollah in Lebanon, or never has been.

01:03:25.000 And the embassies in Tunis, where there's been violence, and in Rabat, Morocco, where there was violence over the Moroccan king, freeing a Spanish spy who was a convicted pedophile, raped 11 Moroccan boys.

01:03:36.000 That one wasn't closed.

01:03:38.000 And now this following week, we have embassies in Mauritius, Madagascar, Burundi, and Rwanda, countries that don't have large Muslim populations closing. 0.94

01:03:47.000 But, you know, one in Mauritania is being opened, and the one in Kurdistan, up in northern Iraq, the consulate there is being, this thing was put together by a bunch of morons in the State Department, political types. 0.81

01:04:01.000 If they asked any of the seasoned Foreign Service officers there, they would have said... 0.58

01:04:06.000 Well look, if you're going to close the embassies, you better close all of them, and don't do this kind of cherry picking, because your list is going to smell really bad, and it smells real bad.

01:04:15.000 You're absolutely right.

01:04:16.000 When we come back, I want you to recap this.

01:04:18.000 I want to put a map up for TV viewers that are watching at Infowars.com forward slash show, or on presentplanet.tv.

01:04:25.000 I want to put that up for people so they can understand.

01:04:28.000 They're not shutting them down in Baghdad, and Saudi Arabia, and Lebanon.

01:04:33.000 They're shutting them down down in Rwanda, way down on the west coast of Africa that has a tiny Muslim population and no history of terror attacks.

01:04:41.000 I want to explain this to them.

01:04:43.000 I mean, the disdain they have for the public is just unbelievable.

01:04:48.000 And what a way to change the subject from our government funding Al-Qaeda to, oh, we're closing the embassies, they'll get us. 0.82

01:04:54.000 It's all just a simulation.

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01:06:09.000 It's Alex Jones.

01:06:16.000 Well, the former head of the NSA is on Fox News right now, calling for us all to give up our rights.

01:06:22.000 We have to have everything we do tracked and recorded and get rid of the Fourth Amendment, and the Tenth Amendment for that matter, and have the Feds in our lives, because of Al-Qaeda, who they founded and who they've armed on record. 0.88

01:06:34.000 And we've also got all these embassies shut down in places like Rwanda, where there's never been any terrorist attacks against any Western operations, almost no Muslims.

01:06:46.000 And they don't have it shut down in other places.

01:06:53.000 And of course, you've got Rwanda right in the middle of Africa. 0.58

01:06:57.000 So just, so just absolutely, absolutely ridiculous that things like this are going on.

01:07:04.000 And Wayne Madsen, former of the National Security Agency, syndicated columnist, waynemadsenreport.com.

01:07:09.000 To recap what you were saying, they're not shutting down embassies in Lebanon, north of Israel.

01:07:16.000 They're not shutting them down in places like Pakistan.

01:07:19.000 They're just shutting them down Or it doesn't even matter to then say, see, we need to spy on you without warrants and Congress, how dare you say, you know, that we shouldn't outdo the East German Stasi. 0.77

01:07:31.000 I mean, this is ridiculous.

01:07:33.000 You know, the list of embassies that was closed down makes no sense at all. 0.85

01:07:33.000 Right. 0.85

01:07:38.000 For example, there was an attempt by a gunman some time ago, last year, to enter the U.S.

01:07:44.000 Embassy in Ankara, in Turkey.

01:07:46.000 He was shot before he could get in there.

01:07:48.000 But that embassy wasn't closed.

01:07:50.000 Why?

01:07:51.000 Because Turkey's a member of NATO.

01:07:52.000 Turkey's helping us in Syria.

01:07:54.000 This list is unusual.

01:07:56.000 And also, And the embassy in the former Soviet Central Asian stands that are primarily Muslim, they weren't shut down.

01:08:04.000 The one in Azerbaijan wasn't shut down because the U.S.

01:08:07.000 has a lot of oil connections there.

01:08:10.000 And now this coming week, The one in Kurdistan has reopened, the U.S.

01:08:16.000 Consulate there, and a few others, and now new ones are being closed. 0.98

01:08:21.000 The thing makes no sense at all because the thing was, I think it was just done at a moment's notice to help NSA convince everybody that they need to continue doing this surveillance, so some political weenie at the State Department pulled this list literally out of their butt. 0.98

01:08:38.000 Without any sort of forethought.

01:08:40.000 And anyone who knows anything about U.S.

01:08:42.000 foreign policy and the closure of embassies knows that Idaho Fitter is coming up this week.

01:08:48.000 So, you know, these embassies were going to be closed anyway.

01:08:51.000 And this whole thing was just an effort in a ridiculous propaganda ploy.

01:08:58.000 Folks, I want to give you the numbers so you have a chance to talk directly to Wayne Madsen.

01:09:02.000 The phones are open for Wayne Madsen, your questions for a syndicated columnist, researcher, someone who's advised Congress, the EU on national security issues concerning the NSA-type grids, your chance to ask him about Benghazi Gate, any of it, 877-789-ALEX, 877-789-2539.

01:09:16.000 877-789-ALEX. 877-789-2539.

01:09:22.000 Questions only for Wayne Madsen. 877-789-2539.

01:09:28.000 But we have now an open debate about the persecution of the press, persecution of whistleblowers.

01:09:35.000 They've been caught with the stand-down order on Benghazi.

01:09:39.000 They've been caught with Fast and Furious.

01:09:41.000 They've just been caught, you know, as you said a month ago when you were down here visiting in Austin, Texas, Obama has outnixed Nixon to the power of 10.

01:09:50.000 How do you think Obama's going to end?

01:09:52.000 Because I know he's a front man, but they've gotten so much done under him.

01:09:57.000 Where do you see all this going?

01:09:59.000 I mean, if Liberty vs. Tyranny was a football game, what's the score?

01:10:04.000 Well look, it's his birthday today.

01:10:06.000 He's 54 years old.

01:10:09.000 Is it 54 or 52?

01:10:10.000 He's 52 years old today.

01:10:12.000 He's going to be leaving office in 2017, January.

01:10:21.000 He's going to still be a young guy.

01:10:23.000 He's now going to be taking contributions for his presidential library, which it looks like it's going to be in Chicago.

01:10:30.000 Oh boy!

01:10:31.000 And now he's going to be on everyone's take.

01:10:33.000 You know, he's going to be just like Bill Clinton and the rest of them getting donations.

01:10:36.000 So this guy is going to be obviously doing much more with the Saudis and the Qataris because he knows that they're going to give him a lot of money for that library.

01:10:43.000 He's turning the whole Middle East over to them and their Al-Qaeda people. 1.00

01:10:45.000 That's just part of it.

01:10:47.000 Absolutely.

01:10:48.000 He's looking at his legacy and his library and all that stuff.

01:10:52.000 So the real whore phase of pardons and everything is about to begin. 0.97

01:10:57.000 Yeah, he's going to be cutting all kinds of side deals.

01:11:01.000 And obviously countries that are not going along with his program, like Russia and China, are going to face a lot more pushback by the U.S.

01:11:13.000 Look, he's got Susan Rice as his National Security Advisor.

01:11:16.000 She's more interested in going after Venezuela and Cuba and Iran and Russia and China.

01:11:21.000 She's very silent on Bahrain, which is did a very bloody crackdown on its own population. 0.65

01:11:28.000 Where is she on Saudi Arabia, one of the most misogynist countries on the planet? 1.00

01:11:33.000 Where is she on these other U.S.-supported dictatorships? 0.97

01:11:38.000 You know, this is what we're going to see, because Bahrain's going to probably kick in a nice hefty sum for the Obama presidential library, and so will a lot of these other, not only countries, but companies.

01:11:50.000 And look, you know, I'd say that the people in charge of the Trans-Canada pipeline, the XL pipeline, they're probably already writing the check for the Obama library, so he approves that pipeline.

01:12:04.000 Absolutely.

01:12:05.000 Shut down the American pipelines and only allow their pipelines to open up. 0.94

01:12:10.000 I mean, this is how real business is done.

01:12:11.000 You don't build things, you just get paid off and shut down people's competition.

01:12:16.000 Speaking of Bahrain, Amber Lyon, who won several Emmys for her television news reporting, she found out they were killing her stories when she was there in Bahrain, lining men, women, and children up and shooting them, and were paying a half million dollars per episode to kill Were they killing her show?

01:12:36.000 They were paying a half mil to CNN to kill reporting on it.

01:12:40.000 So when we say pro regimes, we mean pro-globalist regimes they've seized.

01:12:45.000 And I want to be clear, I've studied history as you have.

01:12:48.000 I don't romanticize Russia.

01:12:49.000 My family's been in America since the Mayflower, before it was even colonies.

01:12:54.000 I know Russia's got its own problems.

01:12:57.000 You know, at the same time, they're decrying spying.

01:12:59.000 They're trying to go more free market.

01:13:01.000 They have lower taxes than us in Russia.

01:13:05.000 And then Putin defies them.

01:13:07.000 And then John McCain, for those that don't know, on Friday said, basically, we should have war with Russia.

01:13:13.000 And we're seeing other bizarre, insane statements, with the whole Snowden thing, giving him a temporary visa there.

01:13:22.000 What do you make of that?

01:13:24.000 I mean, yeah, look, how do we criticize Russia?

01:13:30.000 We have George Soros, who's one of Obama's big funders.

01:13:34.000 An admitted Nazi collaborator. 0.99

01:13:36.000 Yeah, right, and he's paying money to this pussy riot to basically disrupt religious services in Moscow. 0.97

01:13:47.000 That's right, they're going and violating other people's speech so they can claim Putin and Russia is violating free speech when they're the ones setting up free speech zones here and it turns out that that punk rock band is openly funded by the State Department. 0.89

01:14:09.000 Absolutely.

01:14:10.000 And who's in Cairo today as Obama's personal representatives?

01:14:14.000 But Ms. 0.83

01:14:15.000 Lindsey and John McCain and Shane McCain.

01:14:20.000 They're his personal representatives over there.

01:14:22.000 I mean, when are these two guys going to go to Ikea and start picking out furniture together?

01:14:26.000 I mean, it's incredible. 0.99

01:14:28.000 You send these two lunatics. 0.98

01:14:32.000 Both these guys have been very critical of Obama. 0.97

01:14:35.000 But look, Obama's not his own.

01:14:37.000 He's being told what to do.

01:14:39.000 It's like when he ran in 2008.

01:14:42.000 Somebody that I know with the CIA said, You know, you don't know what you're supporting here.

01:14:48.000 You have no idea who this guy is.

01:14:50.000 And, you know, I thought about that and started looking into him.

01:14:53.000 Of course, he had already been elected president.

01:14:54.000 I realized this guy had a CIA pedigree.

01:14:57.000 You know, and I wrote a book about it.

01:14:59.000 And, by the way, I have a new book out about it.

01:15:00.000 It's called NSA Surveillance Reflections and Revelations 2001 to 2015.

01:15:06.000 And, by the way, I want to carry all your books.

01:15:08.000 Why in the world are they not in the InfoWars store?

01:15:11.000 We need to get that deal going, Wayne.

01:15:12.000 I know some of them are e-books.

01:15:14.000 Yeah, some of them are.

01:15:15.000 And also, well, they can be Lulu and Amazon Create.

01:15:19.000 They're carrying both of them.

01:15:21.000 They came out last week.

01:15:22.000 But, basically, it's It's to show that I was reporting on some of these... Absolutely!

01:15:27.000 Listen, I'm going to carry the hard copy starting next week.

01:15:30.000 We're going to get you back on about that to go over the whole history of the spying.

01:15:34.000 WayneMadsworthReport.com.

01:15:35.000 You can find all of his new books that just came out.

01:15:38.000 You're not too good at promoting your books, buddy.

01:15:40.000 You need to tell me about this.

01:15:41.000 I want to get you on about that.

01:15:42.000 Wayne, stay there.

01:15:43.000 We're going to come back and take some phone calls on the other side.

01:15:48.000 Of this break.

01:15:49.000 And you know the number.

01:15:50.000 It's different on Sunday than it is on the weekday show.

01:15:53.000 It's 877-789-ALEX.

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01:15:58.000 We'll be right back.

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01:20:31.000 In the next two segments, I'm going to go to your phone calls for Wayne Madsen, formerly with the National Security Agency, syndicated columnist, great author and researcher on a host of subjects.

01:20:42.000 Just always has amazing info that just continues to turn out to be accurate over the decade plus I've been interviewing him.

01:20:48.000 And then I'm going to get into the attack on free speech.

01:20:50.000 Did you know in Seattle they've banned the word paper bag and the word citizen, saying it's hurtful.

01:20:56.000 Brown bag is racist.

01:20:58.000 Uh, and the word citizen is racist.

01:21:00.000 I actually have newscasts.

01:21:01.000 I'm not, I'm not joking.

01:21:03.000 And I have articles where Gadsden flags are being taken down, the police are being dispatched.

01:21:07.000 That's racist now.

01:21:08.000 Don't tread on me.

01:21:09.000 Uh, they'll say your guns are racist. 0.98

01:21:12.000 In fact, they are now saying they're racist.

01:21:14.000 And then take those.

01:21:15.000 Uh, this is authoritarianism. 0.97

01:21:18.000 And a dumbed down public. 0.71

01:21:19.000 Yeah, there's Fox News.

01:21:21.000 Seattle to ban potentially offensive words like brown bag and citizen.

01:21:25.000 I mean, I say this stuff now and it was like in Wisconsin, an animal shelter had a baby deer because the mama got run over and they sent us eight armored vehicle SWAT team to the well-known facility and came and killed the deer in front of them because you're not allowed to have a baby deer.

01:21:41.000 I mean, it's just, it's like, It's like every control freak nutball gets into government or corporations, big ones, and we just bow down.

01:21:50.000 That's the opposite of what America is.

01:21:51.000 We're all...

01:21:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, independent sovereign citizens that have rights.

01:21:56.000 We're being told, oh, we're running over your rights for reasons.

01:21:59.000 No, that's not what's happening.

01:22:00.000 So we'll get into some of that.

01:22:01.000 That's all up on InfoWars.com.

01:22:04.000 Articles like, confirmed Benghazi was covered up of transfer of arms to Al-Qaeda.

01:22:08.000 Isn't it rich?

01:22:09.000 Lindsey Graham says Al-Qaeda is on steroids now. 0.95

01:22:11.000 Well, yeah, after you and Obama gave them heat-seeking missiles, you've been saying give them more heavy arms, you little turd. 0.99

01:22:17.000 But you know the general public can't find their butt with both hands. 0.99

01:22:22.000 I mean, you people are just unbelievable. 1.00

01:22:24.000 It's sick. 0.98

01:22:26.000 It's like a bank robber calling the police on the teller.

01:22:29.000 Veterans sue city over takedown of Gadsden Flag.

01:22:31.000 That's on Infowars.com.

01:22:33.000 Insider blows the whistle on military takeover plan as they're training to occupy U.S.

01:22:38.000 towns and cities.

01:22:39.000 Amazing.

01:22:39.000 Again, it's not an attack on our military.

01:22:41.000 It's an attack on who's commanding them.

01:22:43.000 That's just some of it.

01:22:44.000 Wayne, we're going to go to the calls right now.

01:22:47.000 Any other tidbits you'd like to add before I go to these calls?

01:22:50.000 Well, I mean, you know, I always say, you know, you hear these stories about what they did to the poor, you know, fawn up in Wisconsin, and then there was a 95-year-old man who was tasered and shot by the police because he refused medical treatment in some facility, so they just killed him.

01:23:07.000 I mean, a 95-year-old guy, you know? 0.98

01:23:09.000 Oh, no, there's a new video of a homeless guy calls a cop reportedly a bitch. 0.98

01:23:14.000 She pulls the gun out and shoots him in the stomach, and they're saying they mailed... 0.99

01:23:18.000 I'm seeing 10 articles a day where cops shoot innocent people unarmed now.

01:23:22.000 I mean, you know, it's like every dystopian future sci-fi movie all actually, you look at them now and you think, my God, what is that?

01:23:22.000 Uh, yeah.

01:23:31.000 Is that a movie?

01:23:32.000 Is that a documentary?

01:23:34.000 Or no, is that a vacation spot?

01:23:37.000 I see dystopic stuff made 50 years ago and I'm like, that was a good place to go live.

01:23:41.000 Exactly.

01:23:42.000 Exactly.

01:23:43.000 I mean, it's, you know, and I said this even back, you know, when we had Bush Cheney in there, you know, I said, America seems to be suffering from moral indignation, fatigue.

01:23:54.000 It's like, oh, you know, people say, I don't want to hear anymore.

01:23:57.000 I don't want to hear anymore.

01:23:58.000 But, you know, they've got to hear more.

01:23:59.000 They've got to, you know, they've got to understand that if they don't, they don't stand up and refuse to be just swallowed up by this Machine, uh, that, you know, it's going to come get them eventually.

01:24:13.000 They're going to succumb to it.

01:24:15.000 You know, they're going to be, uh, they're going to wake up, you know, you know, it's like many of our founders said, you know, it's not like South America where the tanks go in the street overnight.

01:24:25.000 You got a military regime, uh, the day before you might add a democratically elected president.

01:24:31.000 In this country, it's like a slow burn, you know?

01:24:34.000 It doesn't happen overnight.

01:24:36.000 It's a gradual thing, and then when you realize it, it's too late.

01:24:39.000 Absolutely, but those are hard to beat because they're so incremental.

01:24:42.000 David in British, Columbia up in Canada.

01:24:44.000 You're on the air with Wayne Madsen.

01:24:45.000 Go ahead.

01:24:47.000 Yes, sir, go ahead.

01:24:49.000 Yes, on your issues, questions for Mr. Madsen, you've raised numerous issues there.

01:24:56.000 I'm wondering on the Benghazi situation, do we see it as an October surprise, much like Jimmy Carter, where the intelligence agencies were trying to subvert Obama and put Mitt Romney in power?

01:25:09.000 Secondly, do we see Putin's resistance to the U.S.

01:25:13.000 as a counterbalancing force which might help stabilize the world?

01:25:18.000 And thirdly, do we see these recent, I'm looking at antiwar.com and I'm thinking Interpol issues global alert after prison breaks in Iraq, Libya, and Pakistan.

01:25:29.000 And we have Syrian rebels capture anti-tank missiles from government forces.

01:25:34.000 And I'm wondering if these prison breaks of Al-Qaeda personnel are meant to reinforce the Syrian attack.

01:25:39.000 I was about to say, I want him to answer that, but on the last one.

01:25:43.000 They've been caught doing fake prison breaks, where they get people, train them, basically get them to get in line, find out who'll work with them, and then they release them to go carry out operations and call it a prison break, Wayne.

01:25:55.000 Well, that's true.

01:25:55.000 I'll answer the last one first, then, since we're on that subject.

01:25:59.000 You know, exactly, because there was a huge prison break in Yemen some years ago, and people who were accused of being involved in the bombing of the U.S.

01:26:09.000 as coal were released.

01:26:11.000 You know, and all the guards are looking the other way.

01:26:13.000 Obviously, yeah, I mean, the U.S.

01:26:16.000 must have had some say-so there, and of course, You know, and then these guys that get released from Guantanamo, many times they go back working with the insurgent groups, and if they were tortured, they may not have been insurgents to begin with, but they certainly are insurgents after they were tortured.

01:26:34.000 Exactly, it's factories that are producing these people. 0.94

01:26:37.000 Exactly, so on the Benghazi thing with Mitt Romney, look, Mitt Romney was caught with an open mic saying, what we need here is our Jimmy Carter strategy.

01:26:48.000 Now what does that mean?

01:26:49.000 What happened with Jimmy Carter?

01:26:53.000 George Bush and Bill Casey Arranged to meet with the Ayatollah Khomeini's representatives in Paris.

01:27:01.000 By the way, this came out in the Iran-Contra.

01:27:03.000 This is not your opinion.

01:27:05.000 It was arms for no hostages.

01:27:07.000 Keep the hostages at the embassy in Tehran and you'll get weapons from us. 0.99

01:27:13.000 They sent the weapons over there.

01:27:14.000 I wrote extensively about this.

01:27:16.000 They were sent over on a ship called the SS Poet out of Philadelphia.

01:27:21.000 Yeah, everything.

01:27:23.000 Parts for Iranian F-14s that were embargoed, and they were all delivered to the port of Bandar Abbas, and then after that, the SS poet with the 34 U.S.

01:27:33.000 crew Disappears.

01:27:38.000 Disappears.

01:27:39.000 The government said it disappeared in the Atlantic on its way to deliver corn to Port Said, Egypt.

01:27:44.000 It was never even cited going through the Straits of Gibraltar.

01:27:46.000 So that's just like killing the Navy SEALs that were on the fake Bin Laden raid.

01:27:50.000 Absolutely. 0.93

01:27:50.000 They killed the guys that delivered that. 0.93

01:27:52.000 Everybody working for the government should know, if you're involved in a dirty op, they're going to kill you, idiots. 1.00

01:27:58.000 Yeah, yeah, because you know too much. 1.00

01:28:00.000 You know, and so yeah, so when he's, when Romney said a Jimmy Carter strategy, bingo, that was it.

01:28:06.000 I said, oh he's, there's something going on and I would almost bet that Petraeus had to be involved.

01:28:12.000 Remember, he was the neocon darling. 0.56

01:28:14.000 Sure, sure, well I'm not defending the neocons, but let me ask you this question.

01:28:17.000 Why did Obama go along with the cover-up then?

01:28:20.000 Well, he couldn't fire Petraeus.

01:28:22.000 Look at, you know, he couldn't fire Petraeus before it looked bad.

01:28:25.000 It's me saying, oh, why is he firing a CIA director right before the election?

01:28:29.000 He didn't want that problem right before the election because, you know, people started asking questions.

01:28:34.000 Obama wanted to keep it focused on his cult of personality, right?

01:28:39.000 So he didn't want this problem.

01:28:41.000 So they fired, where did they fire Petraeus?

01:28:43.000 The day after the election.

01:28:45.000 Absolutely.

01:28:46.000 We're going to come back with Don in Michigan, Dan in Wisconsin, Thomas in Ohio, Meryl in Utah, and others.

01:28:53.000 And thanks for the call from British Columbia, David.

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01:33:09.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

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01:33:37.000 And we are back.

01:33:40.000 Look, our government's always had problems.

01:33:41.000 All governments have, historically.

01:33:43.000 But special interests that are very ruthless have gotten control.

01:33:48.000 And if you look at how they gave weapons to Iran, and then weapons and advice to Iraq to have a seven-year war that killed over a million people, or you look at how our government funded Russia to then fund North Vietnam to invade the South, that's all been declassified.

01:34:06.000 You figure out, wow, it's not a government, it's these big arms dealers and banks and combines, just like the Rothschilds funding both sides of the Napoleonic Wars.

01:34:16.000 That's in mainline textbooks.

01:34:18.000 And they just sit back while we all kill each other and take our liberties and take our freedoms, which makes their crimes more secure via national security.

01:34:28.000 And I'm sick of it.

01:34:29.000 I want to go to your calls quickly now with Wayne Madsen, NSA whistleblower, with your comments or questions for him.

01:34:34.000 And let's go to Don in Michigan.

01:34:36.000 Go ahead, you're on the air, Don.

01:34:38.000 Hi there.

01:34:39.000 Hey, buddy.

01:34:41.000 Wayne Manson, I'd like to know, they've had three prison breaks here recently.

01:34:45.000 Are they playing on a false flag?

01:34:46.000 Or are they getting their people out so they can use them?

01:34:50.000 Well, yeah, I think that's cannon fodder. 0.94

01:34:52.000 Look, there was a big one in Iraq, right? 1.00

01:34:55.000 And it's not far from Iraq into Syria, so obviously, how many, what was it, 500 or something like that?

01:35:01.000 That's where they send the jihadis. 0.97

01:35:03.000 Yeah, instantly, you've got 500 added to the ranks in Syria.

01:35:06.000 The weapons are starting to go into Syria in a big way now, because, you know, Assad has been able to fight back successfully against these rebels, these jihadis.

01:35:19.000 And Israel hit Russian installations in Syria.

01:35:22.000 Unprecedented.

01:35:23.000 And now you've got the Syrian Kurds battling the Islamists, the jihadists in Syria.

01:35:29.000 And here we go with the Kurds again. 1.00

01:35:31.000 But these Kurds, unlike the Kurds in Iraq, don't have the support of the United States.

01:35:36.000 So, you know, it's an amazing turn of events, but as part of this, remember, this whole neocon op thing is to destabilize what they call the Crescent of Insurgency, the Crescent of Violence, which they claim goes from Morocco all the way to Indonesia, the Muslim Crescent.

01:35:56.000 Global destabilization is good for weapons contracts. 0.68

01:35:59.000 Anything else there, Don?

01:36:01.000 Well, it was Pakistan and Libya, and then one of the articles in the Guardian, they went through specifically yelling out for certain prisoners to free them.

01:36:10.000 So I just wondered if that was their idea.

01:36:12.000 Oh yeah, they're just... Yeah, no.

01:36:14.000 They've been caught before with these fake breaks.

01:36:16.000 When Gaddafi said on TV that why is the U.S.

01:36:19.000 funding al-Qaeda, that they are the rebels, everybody laughed at him, thought he was crazy.

01:36:23.000 Now look, I've seen Gaddafi personally in Libya and in New York at the U.N.

01:36:30.000 and I think the guy might have been a hash user, but I was at least told that by some people close to him.

01:36:36.000 But I don't think he was, you know, he was not off his rocker with that statement.

01:36:40.000 He was right on the money when he said Well, that's all been admitted at the main force, especially, yeah, it was Al-Qaeda. 0.90

01:36:46.000 I'm just sick of them taking my rights in the name of Al-Qaeda when they run them.

01:36:49.000 I mean, it's... Lindsey Graham, Al-Qaeda's gonna get us. 0.81

01:36:52.000 Aren't you scared, Candy?

01:36:53.000 Oh, I'm very scared.

01:36:55.000 I mean, this is like bad acting in a third-grader play.

01:36:59.000 I think Al-Qaeda's the name of a guy.

01:37:01.000 I think there's a guy named Al-Qaeda, and Lindsey probably wants his phone number.

01:37:05.000 All right, Don, thank you.

01:37:08.000 Dan in Wisconsin, you're on the air.

01:37:11.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:37:13.000 Listen, Wayne, I'd just like to ask you a question.

01:37:16.000 Now, I've been hearing that, you know, this whole Benghazi attack was really about kidnapping Ambassador Stevens in order to go ahead and negotiate with Obama for the release of the blind sheet.

01:37:30.000 Yeah, that's what I've heard is it was going to be a false flag.

01:37:33.000 It could have been a false flag so Obama could have a fake hostage rescue.

01:37:39.000 Right, you're right, because look, even with the Iranian embassy seizure, you know, the Iranians had demands.

01:37:46.000 We just didn't want to exceed any of their demands.

01:37:49.000 They wanted the Shah back, who had gotten out of there, for example. 0.99

01:37:52.000 That was one of the demands.

01:37:53.000 So obviously, if there was one of these false flag embassy hostage seizure situations, there would have been demands made.

01:38:01.000 Yeah, I mean, we know this.

01:38:02.000 There was a stand down.

01:38:03.000 They've been caught lying.

01:38:05.000 We don't know what really went on.

01:38:06.000 We know there were weapons there.

01:38:08.000 Wayne said that nine months ago.

01:38:09.000 It's now confirmed.

01:38:10.000 CNN, we appreciate your call.

01:38:12.000 I mean, I'm not tooting your horn.

01:38:14.000 That's a big deal.

01:38:15.000 How are you, because you were the first guy we got on that knew that.

01:38:18.000 And then Schaefer agreed and so did Pachinic.

01:38:21.000 I mean, you can't give us your sources, but you were pretty sure on that.

01:38:24.000 I mean, is that like widely known?

01:38:26.000 Well, it was amongst people in the intelligence community and in the State Department, and even in the military.

01:38:32.000 Again, this was before the huge crackdown.

01:38:37.000 Look, they were already going after some whistleblowers.

01:38:39.000 They'd already indicted a few.

01:38:40.000 But the chill hadn't totally set in yet, so some people were still willing to talk.

01:38:45.000 Sure.

01:38:46.000 They're hard to find these days, though.

01:38:48.000 Well, we just got an Urban Warfare Center DHS built on a military base from the people inside.

01:38:54.000 They say they're training to take on the American people at these villages. 0.94

01:38:57.000 That's admitted they're training to take on the Tea Partiers, and that's in the Army War College reports and everything, but it's still bizarre to actually see the photos, so we got a whistleblower.

01:39:06.000 Insider blows the whistle on military takeover plan.

01:39:09.000 We got that from a contractor who was former military, and we vetted that through two other sources, by the way, so that's up on InfoWars.com.

01:39:17.000 Let's go ahead and go to Megan in Pennsylvania.

01:39:20.000 You're on the air with Wayne Madsen.

01:39:23.000 Hello?

01:39:23.000 Yes, go ahead.

01:39:24.000 Welcome.

01:39:25.000 I didn't think you'd hear me.

01:39:26.000 Hi, Wayne.

01:39:26.000 Hi, Alex.

01:39:27.000 Hey.

01:39:30.000 Do you think it's more that the people of America are scandal-proof these days or that we're just not hearing about it?

01:39:37.000 Because, I mean, the truth came out about Benghazi.

01:39:40.000 I mean, so many people know about 9-11.

01:39:43.000 I think it's a mix of both.

01:39:45.000 I mean, I think it's a mix of both.

01:39:46.000 But you just get used to living, you know, basically in a tyranny.

01:39:49.000 And then as the increments like the frog in the pot, what do you think, Wayne?

01:39:52.000 No, I think a part of it is what I call moral indignation fatigue.

01:39:56.000 But the caller's right.

01:39:58.000 We're not given a lot of this news.

01:39:59.000 You know, the veteran newsman with NBC, John Palmer, died, I believe it was yesterday, in Washington.

01:40:06.000 And, you know, he's a he's no pun intended.

01:40:09.000 And he is a dying breed of journalists.

01:40:11.000 Back in the day when he was on the air, you know, we got straight news.

01:40:16.000 And remember, it was a half-hour news broadcast with commercials.

01:40:20.000 It was only 22 minutes of news.

01:40:23.000 You know, we got more news in that 22 minutes, and we get an hour after hour after hour on his thumb.

01:40:29.000 Cable news programs and that's part of the problem right there.

01:40:32.000 The news back then was focused.

01:40:35.000 The time was at a premium and people like John Palmer and people like, you know, there were many like him, Paul Duke.

01:40:42.000 I've met some of these guys and they were great guys, but unfortunately they don't exist anymore.

01:40:46.000 I mean, now we have state-run media other than a few talk radio and a few websites like WayneMadsenReport.com, DrudgeReport.com, Infowars.com, whether it's left, right, center, libertarian, we want truth and justice and freedom.

01:41:00.000 They're openly announcing that the Pentagon, oh what did you make of last week, or now we can have it go, the Pentagon going, we're going to stop lying, but we're going to go out and engage all the blogs.

01:41:12.000 I see that as the opening salvo, the takeover of the media.

01:41:15.000 But the entire NSA Pentagon building at Fort Meade, hundreds of brass there, they look like they had the worst, they look worse than Japanese surrendering to Douglas MacArthur.

01:41:27.000 Their morale looked hellish.

01:41:30.000 What was happening there?

01:41:31.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

01:41:32.000 Look, they're all having to fill out financial disclosure forms more often than they ever had in the past.

01:41:39.000 In other words, they don't have any private life at all.

01:41:42.000 Not that when you work at NSA, you're like anybody else who works... But they're living under a real oppression.

01:41:48.000 Yeah, very much so.

01:41:49.000 That Q group is like an internal Stasi combined with Gestapo combined with the KGB. 0.99

01:41:56.000 It's absolutely awful.

01:41:57.000 They use psychiatrists.

01:41:59.000 If you express any Opposition to what's going on.

01:42:02.000 You're sent to the shrink and based on... and these aren't even qualified psychiatrists.

01:42:06.000 These are... They're political hacks.

01:42:08.000 Psychologists.

01:42:09.000 Yeah, anybody get a psychology degree.

01:42:11.000 My God, you don't need a medical... you don't need the... The point is they cherry-pick ones that go along with the game plan.

01:42:17.000 Then you lose your security clearance if they deem you crazy.

01:42:20.000 You know, they used to do this in the Soviet Union. 0.73

01:42:22.000 They had psychiatric hospitals where they sent dissidents and said, well, if you don't like the Soviet fatherland and the workers' paradise, you must be crazy.

01:42:32.000 You know what, Wayne?

01:42:32.000 That's what they do.

01:42:33.000 Take us to the wall.

01:42:34.000 Take us to the end.

01:42:35.000 15 more minutes.

01:42:36.000 We're going to come back and go to, well, Thomas is gone.

01:42:38.000 We're going to go to Thomas, Merrill, and a few other callers on the other side of this quick break in the final segment.

01:42:46.000 And then I'll give you some of this political correctness, how they're trying to divide and conquer.

01:42:49.000 But I want to have Wayne finish up where he thinks this country is going.

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01:47:37.000 By the way, tomorrow on the weekday show, 12 noon and 3 pm eastern, we'll look at insider blows the whistle on military takeover plan.

01:47:44.000 Why would the US government need to build mock US cities and towns and train for invading them?

01:47:50.000 Well, they admit it's for gun confiscation if they're ordered.

01:47:54.000 But if we politically stand up against this, they won't be able to sell the idea.

01:47:58.000 That's why we're in an info war.

01:48:00.000 But they want us divided against each other.

01:48:03.000 Military against civilian.

01:48:04.000 I hear mayors calling us civilians, police calling us civilians.

01:48:07.000 You're civilians too.

01:48:09.000 And the military is not supposed to be involved domestically.

01:48:11.000 But now it's like you're upper class of your government, and then all the rest of us are civilian.

01:48:16.000 I mean, it's very aberrant, the conversion we're seeing here. 0.99

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01:48:29.000 It's got Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman merged together.

01:48:32.000 on the cover to show that it's divide and conquer.

01:48:35.000 And we look at how they're trying to get us obsessed on fighting with each other in the name of political correctness that really creates tribalism and division and racism instead of worrying about global offshore banks that have diplomatic immunity and steal $85 billion of taxpayer money a month in QE3.

01:48:54.000 So just so you don't think I'm lying, because this sounds crazy, when I saw this Thursday when we first covered it, I didn't believe it when I first saw the headline.

01:49:02.000 Seattle bans the word brown paper bag saying the word browns racist and the word citizen might hurt illegals feelings so you can't use that.

01:49:10.000 Here's a short clip from that newscast so you know I'm not joking.

01:49:14.000 Here it is.

01:49:16.000 And then we will go to your phone calls.

01:49:18.000 We represent all the residents of Seattle.

01:49:23.000 That is part of the memo to City Hall that spells it all out.

01:49:26.000 A recommendation to no longer use the terms citizen or brown bag.

01:49:30.000 The Office for Civil Rights says Seattle serves all residents whether they're citizens or not.

01:49:35.000 Some like it and some don't.

01:49:38.000 And then it just goes on to say it's racist to say the word brown bag.

01:49:41.000 I mean, Wayne Madsen, this is right out of the Soviet Union.

01:49:46.000 What is your take on this?

01:49:48.000 Well, it's right out of 1984 in Newspeak.

01:49:56.000 You're speechless, aren't you?

01:50:01.000 Oh, Wayne accidentally unplugged his headphones.

01:50:03.000 He's getting them plugged back in right now.

01:50:05.000 Let's go to a phone call while he's doing that.

01:50:07.000 Thomas in Ohio.

01:50:09.000 Thomas, I think he's got his headset plugged back in.

01:50:11.000 We're watching him via video Skype.

01:50:12.000 All of you can watch us at Infowars.com forward slash show, by the way, not just radio, but TV as well.

01:50:18.000 What's your question for Wayne Madsen, Thomas?

01:50:21.000 Hello.

01:50:22.000 Thank you for taking my call and thank you for what you guys do.

01:50:25.000 I'll try to be quick.

01:50:27.000 I see what's going on in Syria.

01:50:30.000 Libya, Egypt, and with the NSA spying and all these different things.

01:50:35.000 I'm actually a member of the CSPOA.

01:50:37.000 I'm a police officer.

01:50:38.000 I joined up because I wanted to physically take a stand against evil for what was right.

01:50:43.000 And once I see this stuff going on, I want to do something about it, but we have no recourse.

01:50:48.000 I can't even get on Yahoo.

01:50:49.000 I get on Yahoo.

01:50:50.000 I see the news story.

01:50:51.000 I try to comment.

01:50:52.000 They censor my comments out.

01:50:54.000 I mean, we have no recourse.

01:50:55.000 What can we do about this?

01:50:56.000 I mean, this stuff outrages me, but they say your recourse is to vote somebody else in.

01:51:00.000 What do we do?

01:51:00.000 It's not working.

01:51:01.000 Well, that's right.

01:51:02.000 The globalists have given us the Internet, but now they're practicing the gaming of it with cybersecurity.

01:51:08.000 You only support alternative media.

01:51:10.000 Uh, you own, you know, you support other people in your department that actually stand for a free country and not for thug, thug behavior.

01:51:17.000 Again, they train the cops to be thugs and the public turns against them exactly what they wanted.

01:51:22.000 The public should go out and talk to police, try to support good police, speak out against bad police.

01:51:28.000 I mean, basically good people have done nothing and that's what has allowed evil to take over.

01:51:34.000 Wayne Madsen?

01:51:36.000 You know, I was actually looking for a story on my iPhone earlier.

01:51:36.000 Well, absolutely.

01:51:43.000 That's why I wasn't looking at the camera.

01:51:45.000 But I was looking for a story because you mentioned something earlier about, you know, how this country is being destroyed.

01:51:54.000 You know, a story to follow is what's happening in Detroit right now with the sell-off of the assets of the city.

01:51:59.000 One of the assets is Belle Isle, which is in the Detroit River between Michigan and Ontario, Canada.

01:52:05.000 And they're talking about creating a separate Commonwealth, where it's going to be like a corporate tax-free zone.

01:52:15.000 It won't be part of Michigan, it won't be part of Detroit.

01:52:17.000 No, no, that's the model of the world, is the globalist bankrupt thing, and then they're exempt.

01:52:22.000 And here you're going to have this island.

01:52:25.000 In the middle of the Detroit River, where you're going to have all these multinationals coming in there, not beholden to any law?

01:52:33.000 I mean, this is U.S.

01:52:34.000 territory, but it won't be U.S.

01:52:35.000 territory.

01:52:36.000 No, no, no.

01:52:36.000 They call it the Singapore model of authoritarianism.

01:52:39.000 That's what they're going to.

01:52:40.000 That's what Peter Thiel's pushing.

01:52:42.000 After they implode things, then they go to a hyper-libertarianism, where they're exempt, but still feed into government troughs.

01:52:50.000 Yeah, and what's next?

01:52:51.000 Is Staten Island going to be next after that?

01:52:54.000 You know, Key West?

01:52:55.000 You know, Oahu?

01:52:57.000 You know, where does it stop?

01:52:59.000 You know, is this going to be the bulk of the United States?

01:53:00.000 While the corporations lobby to raise our taxes to get it in corporate welfare. 0.99

01:53:05.000 Great point.

01:53:06.000 Anything else, Thomas?

01:53:08.000 No, that's pretty much it.

01:53:09.000 Thank you.

01:53:10.000 Thank you.

01:53:10.000 Yeah, no, it's good to hear police officers and sheriff's deputies that care.

01:53:14.000 I know most of them I run into are awake and care.

01:53:16.000 And by the way, the first people taking it in Detroit are the police officers and the firemen.

01:53:20.000 They're losing their pensions.

01:53:22.000 They worked all their lives and they're losing their pensions in Detroit.

01:53:25.000 Yeah, and I've talked to, like, top nuclear physicist engineers.

01:53:28.000 We should be working two days a week with all the automation, living like kings.

01:53:31.000 But they've artificially are creating this neo-feudalism.

01:53:34.000 Let's talk to Merrill in Utah.

01:53:37.000 You're on the air.

01:53:38.000 Go ahead.

01:53:40.000 Hey, how you doing, Alex?

01:53:42.000 Good, sir.

01:53:43.000 And Wayne?

01:53:43.000 Thanks for calling.

01:53:44.000 Hey, um, I was up at the protest here in Utah at the NSA building, and I ran into this lady who runs a website called, like, it's Silent Weapons for Silent Wars or something.

01:53:58.000 I was wondering if Wayne's heard anything about that.

01:54:01.000 Yeah, that's Colonel Alexander.

01:54:02.000 That's the soft kill operation.

01:54:04.000 You got any comments on that?

01:54:06.000 Uh, well, you know, it's the, what's the name of the guy, Colonel?

01:54:11.000 It's the Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.

01:54:14.000 Is this the guy who was involved with the movie Men Who Stare at Goats was based on?

01:54:20.000 Yes.

01:54:21.000 Oh yeah, I know him, I met him.

01:54:24.000 Yeah, well look, you know, that data center in Utah, and thanks for protesting that, this thing is, This thing is a huge, you know, the NSA says it's collecting the metadata, but it's only looking at what it has a court order for.

01:54:41.000 Not if it's out in that data center.

01:54:42.000 What are they going to tell, send these judges out there to make sure that... They admit on record they're grabbing everything.

01:54:48.000 What did you make of Alexander this week?

01:54:50.000 And I appreciate your call, sir.

01:54:52.000 What did you make of, at the Las Vegas Black Hat event, Alexander, the head of the NSA, a separate Alexander than Colonel Alexander, what did you make of the head of cyber security of the NSA saying, we don't spy without warrants, when a month, two weeks ago, he admitted he lied to Congress about that?

01:55:10.000 He and General Clapper, the DNI, both lied to Congress.

01:55:13.000 And, you know, it used to be that, you know, that was contempt of Congress.

01:55:17.000 That was a jailable offense back in the old days.

01:55:22.000 But yeah, look, Alexander has gone to this, before this conference.

01:55:27.000 He was basically banned this year from the other one, the DEF CON conference.

01:55:32.000 But he, you know, he's at, obviously he's out there trying to recruit people for Cyber Command.

01:55:37.000 Oh, he said, we need you to fight for freedom.

01:55:40.000 Oh yeah, yeah, to be part of the surveillance structure of the United States.

01:55:44.000 So one guy in the audience apparently yelled and called him a liar.

01:55:48.000 You know, and he denied it.

01:55:50.000 Well he said, you know, follow the Constitution.

01:55:52.000 A bunch of them heckled him.

01:55:53.000 And then he goes, we are, we're promoting freedom.

01:55:56.000 When he said to Congress, we don't spell on anybody.

01:55:57.000 And he goes, I'm sorry, I was misleading you two days later.

01:56:01.000 And then now he's like, no, no.

01:56:02.000 And then he talked in a real slow NPR voice.

01:56:06.000 Like really freaked everybody out.

01:56:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:56:09.000 Look, this guy came out of the Army Intelligence Corps.

01:56:16.000 He was in Fort Huachuca.

01:56:18.000 He's spent his entire career as an intelligence guy, just like his predecessor.

01:56:24.000 Yeah, and he's trying some NLP trick that doesn't work on anybody that has an IQ above 70.

01:56:31.000 And the other problem is, why is it now that directors of the NSA serve these lengths of time, almost equal to the FBI director?

01:56:39.000 Used to be they'd serve a normal military tour.

01:56:42.000 Three or four years max.

01:56:44.000 Alexander's been in there for I don't know how many years.

01:56:46.000 Lane, we're out of time.

01:56:47.000 We're out of time for calls.

01:56:48.000 I apologize.

01:56:49.000 I'm getting you back on in the next few weeks and I want to carry your books because I've read your others.

01:56:52.000 They're excellent.

01:56:53.000 Tell us about your new book and the other book.

01:56:55.000 It's the same book.

01:56:57.000 It's NSA Surveillance Reflections and Revelations 2001 to 2013.

01:57:02.000 Basically a compilation of what I've already written about NSA with some of the Snowden revelations and showing how they match up.

01:57:11.000 WayneMadsenReport.com or there on Amazon.

01:57:13.000 Wayne, thank you so much.

01:57:15.000 Look forward to talking to you again.

01:57:16.000 Good to be with you, Alex.

01:57:17.000 All right, that was a good hour and a half interview with him.

01:57:19.000 30-minute intro.

01:57:20.000 I'm sorry to the other callers that are holding.

01:57:22.000 I'll have to get back to you tomorrow during the weekday show.

01:57:25.000 12 to 3 p.m. Eastern, 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Central.

01:57:27.000 Yes, that's 9 a.m. to noon Pacific, 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Mountain, or Montana time as they call it.

01:57:35.000 Great job to the crew.

01:57:36.000 Great job to all of you out there.

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01:57:49.000 God bless you all.

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