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00:00:37.000 To fix Obamacare, Congress will have to stand down and allow Obama to operate outside of the courts, outside of law, outside of Congress. 0.87

00:00:48.000 And of course, this is the big test now, because the Republican leadership You know, helped write this with foreign banks, so they wanted to go through.

00:00:55.000 That's their orders.

00:00:56.000 And so now, Obama will be like, hey, let me do what I want outside of law, and I'll give you the free health care.

00:01:02.000 And then of course, you'll let him be dictator.

00:01:05.000 It'll get even worse, as I keep telling you, for years and months, specifically.

00:01:10.000 And then it'll just get worse and worse and worse.

00:01:12.000 It's kind of like if you stuck your arm in something and something bit your finger off, you wouldn't stick your arm back in there.

00:01:17.000 So you stick your arm in the Obamacare hole, And you pull it out and three fingers have been chewed off.

00:01:25.000 And then you hear a voice going, I love you, stick your hand back in.

00:01:28.000 I'll give you a bag of gold if you stick your hand back in.

00:01:31.000 You know, come to healthcare.gov.

00:01:33.000 Oh, I love you.

00:01:34.000 I love you.

00:01:35.000 I love you.

00:01:35.000 And you go, well, it sounds sweet.

00:01:37.000 You know, it sounds like Harry Lennox, who now has gone public to media and Chicago, that he actually for years was there and trained Obama.

00:01:50.000 And then you watch and listen to Lennox, and you go back to videos of him years ago, he's Obama!

00:01:54.000 He's the guy, he's the American, he's the smooth-talking guy, the Shakespearean actor, who trained Obozo.

00:02:03.000 I mean, we know Obama. 0.64

00:02:05.000 I shouldn't call him a bozo, but I like to denigrate their puppets. 1.00

00:02:07.000 He's actually a viciously successful puppet who savagely stabbed America in the back a thousand times and we're bleeding out right now. 0.89

00:02:14.000 So he's actually the Great Destroyer, the most successful New World Order agent ever against the Republic. 0.82

00:02:20.000 Benedict Arnold rolls in his grave with jealousy, flopping end over end, foaming at the mouth with just absolute rapine.

00:02:30.000 Let's get into some of the Obozo care news.

00:02:33.000 They're now reporting that the fix could make it worse.

00:02:36.000 That's what McClatchy's saying, of course.

00:02:38.000 Always going to make it worse.

00:02:40.000 That's the plan.

00:02:42.000 More Navigators exposed in new video with the Veritas Project.

00:02:49.000 Where they're telling them to engage in fraud, and cheat everyone, and lie on everything, and commit felonies, and that they work for the Democratic Party, and that they're going to take over the country.

00:02:57.000 And no mainstream media is picking that up, because again, this is the age of total criminality.

00:03:02.000 GOP warns of constitutional crisis, but they're controlled at the top, so don't expect anything.

00:03:08.000 A Democratic representative says they haven't seen this much panic since 9-11.

00:03:12.000 Now that was a staged event too.

00:03:14.000 And the New York Times says there's a crisis in confidence in Obozo.

00:03:18.000 Well, it doesn't matter, he's not facing re-election.

00:03:20.000 So he's designed the abomination, the O-Vomit.

00:03:26.000 That's the best name, because they're vomiting out their hatred on us with Obama.

00:03:31.000 Like boiling oil dumped off a castle wall on our heads.

00:03:36.000 We're saying it's a crisis in confidence.

00:03:38.000 And then that will run everyone to the self-propelled Baron Harkinen, Jabba the Hutt's illegitimate son, the governor of New Jersey.

00:03:47.000 That will run everyone to him and his suspenser belts.

00:03:52.000 And then, of course, he'll come in and double down the savagery and all the neocon talk show hustle, defend him and say you're liberal if you don't like him and that I'm a commie because I don't like Christie.

00:04:05.000 All the rest of it.

00:04:06.000 I mean, this is how they operate.

00:04:08.000 This is how the game works.

00:04:09.000 And if America puts up with this again, I know there's electronic voting machines and a lot of fraud, but it doesn't matter.

00:04:15.000 We should be out in the streets by the millions, demanding the resignation of the abomination, Vomitus Maximus, Ludus Brutus, Turtus, I mean, I'm trying to come up with names in Latin here, a little bit of pig Latin here, to describe what they're doing to us, ladies and gentlemen. 0.89

00:04:42.000 But, uh, I gotta have some gallows humor sometimes.

00:04:45.000 I'm having really trouble dealing with this.

00:04:47.000 Uh, just watching the total criminal takeover and them dancing around on the grave of America, shutting everything down.

00:04:53.000 Restaurants I used to go to are shut down or half empty.

00:04:55.000 Movie theaters are empty.

00:04:56.000 Autonomy's imploding.

00:04:58.000 I live in the best city in the country and I can see the rot setting in everywhere while globalists fly around above me going to the F1 race this weekend that taxpayers paid for. 0.96

00:05:07.000 These billionaires suck me dry, giggling at me.

00:05:11.000 Why does the United States spend the largest percentage of GDP in the world on healthcare? 0.98

00:05:16.000 Why do we have the highest cancer rates on the planet?

00:05:19.000 The highest rates of diabetes, autism, and every other major disease.

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00:08:32.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us on this Friday edition.

00:08:54.000 We are now into the second hour.

00:08:55.000 We have a guest that we're getting hooked up on Skype right now who's an expert on the technotronic technocracy age, the governing system that the globalists actually describe themselves as being adherents of.

00:09:10.000 And this is the system they're trying to set up, so that's coming up here in a few minutes.

00:09:14.000 First off, Congressman McDermott is saying he hasn't seen this much panic on the floor since 9-11.

00:09:22.000 House Democrat compares congressional panic over Obamacare to worst terror attack in nation's history.

00:09:28.000 Well yeah, that manufactured globalist event killed 3,000 people and was tragic.

00:09:34.000 And then thousands more from the deadly dust the government lied about.

00:09:37.000 But this is going to kill the economy and the engine of prosperity and kill millions through death panels and rationed care on record.

00:09:47.000 I mean, we knew what was in the bill, we knew the plan, and now, get ready.

00:09:52.000 Get ready to become impoverished.

00:09:55.000 Because they want you impoverished under Cloward and Piven to give up on the free market, blame capitalism for crony fraud capitalism that they brought in, where they socialize our lives, but then transfer the wealth to themselves.

00:10:08.000 So that is just some of the news.

00:10:11.000 Also CBS is reporting that a TSA agent officer bled for 33 minutes in LAX shooting.

00:10:19.000 Airports are supposed to be the most secure places in the country, except for like military bases.

00:10:24.000 And then this guy bled for 33 minutes while they got the SWAT team all suited up and ready.

00:10:29.000 Again, it's the culture of just worrying about their safety all day.

00:10:32.000 Until the point is nobody's safe because a nanny state can do nothing but make you domesticated. 1.00

00:10:38.000 A nanny state can do nothing except basically turn you into a sheep. 0.78

00:10:50.000 It's so simple.

00:10:53.000 And then we've got the other news up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:10:58.000 Reports out Obama is an actor trained by Harry Lennox.

00:11:02.000 This is a big deal if this goes viral. 0.98

00:11:05.000 That Harry Lennox is saying, and it's on record they were friends for about 17 years, and that they had done work together and they'd go to each other's houses and now he reportedly says Obama's horrible and is a rat. 0.98

00:11:21.000 That's another quote. 0.99

00:11:23.000 A rat. 0.98

00:11:25.000 And that Obama was trained by him to be presidential. 0.90

00:11:30.000 And then of course if you watch Uh, Harry Lennox to an interview.

00:11:34.000 It's Obama.

00:11:35.000 The same cadence, the same voice.

00:11:38.000 Obama is copying Lennox, or Lennox is copying Obama.

00:11:43.000 It's like the same guy.

00:11:44.000 And I believe Lennox over Obama, so that article and the source on that is up on Infowars.com right now.

00:11:52.000 Also, again, the Federal Reserve is planning to accelerate money printing.

00:11:57.000 Congressman warns of Obama creating secret security force, armed security force, that's actually in the Obamacare bill.

00:12:04.000 And then the media is like, oh, he would never do that.

00:12:07.000 They've already set it up with mercenaries with top security clearances guarding federal buildings now.

00:12:13.000 And then the billions of bullets and all the training and the rest of it.

00:12:15.000 I mean, this is just simply, simply amazing.

00:12:19.000 And then some of the other news.

00:12:22.000 Countdown US hits debt ceiling in 84 days.

00:12:27.000 And again, Obama said raising the debt does not raise the debt.

00:12:30.000 Only not raising it.

00:12:32.000 That's the only thing that is financially irresponsible.

00:12:38.000 We have a bigger debt than we have yearly GDP.

00:12:41.000 We have a higher debt-to-savings ratio than Spain and Greece that are both completely bankrupt.

00:12:47.000 And their answer is, get us deeper into debt.

00:12:49.000 Why not?

00:12:50.000 The globalists want us impoverished. 0.93

00:12:53.000 And if Rand Paul wants to cut the defense budget, he's a traitor. 0.98

00:12:57.000 And if Ted Cruz wants to cut some of the corporate welfare and entitlement welfare, oh, he's a horrible person.

00:13:05.000 You can't continue to do this and have 101 million people on food assistance and 100 plus million people on government dole.

00:13:13.000 There's more people on the dole now than in the workforce.

00:13:16.000 Let me say that again.

00:13:18.000 What about the people going bankrupt everywhere?

00:13:21.000 What about the people losing their houses?

00:13:24.000 Well, the folks that have been not working for five, ten years, they go, I don't care!

00:13:28.000 Tax the rich!

00:13:29.000 It's the ultra-rich lobbying for that, against the middle class, their historic enemy, to bankrupt the country. 0.99

00:13:35.000 Once they've done that, you're all going to have your welfare taken away.

00:13:39.000 Here's an article, China to ease one-child policy.

00:13:43.000 That's because it's caused such a problem, having upwards of, what is it, 60, 70 more million men than they have women.

00:13:54.000 And it's causing all sorts of societal problems.

00:13:58.000 And India is about to outstrip them in population. 0.98

00:14:00.000 And they've ended the labor camps.

00:14:03.000 That's being reported by Reuters.

00:14:05.000 China unveils boldest reforms in decades.

00:14:09.000 Shows that the new president is in command.

00:14:11.000 Folks, they don't need labor camps anymore. 0.99

00:14:13.000 Because they call them jobs.

00:14:15.000 And you go in their suicide nets and they forced drug you and forced abortion. 0.96

00:14:19.000 And you're basically locked up at night.

00:14:21.000 And they just don't call it labor camps.

00:14:25.000 And don't worry, China is now on the UN Human Rights Board, deciding what's human rights, along with Cuba.

00:14:32.000 Along with Cuba, I hope it gets better. 1.00

00:14:34.000 Saudi Arabia is probably a bigger tyranny than China, per capita. 0.97

00:14:39.000 The only thing worse is North Korea, and I expect them to be made, you know, the head of the UN operation. 1.00

00:14:45.000 So, that's just some of the news, up on InfoWars.com, up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:14:51.000 EPA blocks cities from installing fire hydrants.

00:14:56.000 Again, the EPA is shutting down over 500 power plants.

00:14:59.000 Bloomberg reports Philadelphia has 119 fire hydrants that cost about $2,000 each waiting in a warehouse to be installed, yet they sit there in dry dock because federal regulators say their fittings might taint drinking water with lead.

00:15:14.000 Yeah, the last lead smelting plant in the US, it's a very important metal for a lot of natural uses, it's been shut down, so you can't even get bullets, but they allow lead in the food from China, just no lead in food produced here.

00:15:28.000 And I'm talking microscopic amounts you can't have here.

00:15:30.000 You can just ship it in at thousands of times that.

00:15:33.000 Again, everything is meant to shut us down.

00:15:37.000 Shut us down.

00:15:38.000 Shut America down.

00:15:39.000 Because remember, the globalists, they're all above the law.

00:15:41.000 They're all exempt.

00:15:42.000 This is what their neo-feudalism is.

00:15:45.000 Under a technological tyranny, a technocracy.

00:15:48.000 And that leads us now to our guest who will be with us for the balance of the hour.

00:15:53.000 And then the top former Secret Service agent, he was the head of operations when the president would go overseas.

00:16:01.000 Dan Bongino is going to join us with a lot of key intel at the start of the next hour.

00:16:07.000 And then we'll take phone calls the last 30 minutes or so, I promise.

00:16:10.000 But Patrick Wood, I was familiar with his writings and work.

00:16:14.000 From newsreviews.com and other places, but I heard him for an hour on Dr. Stan Monteith a few nights ago, and I've read the Technotronic Age, I've read the Anglo-American Establishment, I've read Quigley's books, I've read Brzezinski's books, I read Council on Foreign Relations publications, and so I knew everything he was saying was accurate, but he knew stuff I didn't know and I went and looked it up and it was accurate.

00:16:41.000 So I wanted to get him on because He is an editor of a weekly financial analysis service, Findings and Forecasts.

00:16:49.000 He has studied elite globalization policies, which you need to do to understand economics, since the late 70s when he partnered with the late Anthony C. Sutton, who was a listener and been on the show.

00:17:00.000 To co-author Trilaterals Over Washington Volumes 1 and 2.

00:17:04.000 He remains a leading expert on the elitist Trilateral Commission, their policies and achievements in creating their self-proclaimed new international economic order.

00:17:12.000 He is also a leading expert on historic and modern technocracy, which plays a prominent role in current world affairs.

00:17:19.000 That says it lightly.

00:17:23.000 An economist by education, a financial analyst and writer by profession, an American constitutionalist by choice, Wood holds a biblical worldview.

00:17:32.000 He has a deep historical insight into the modern attacks on sovereignty, property rights and personal freedom.

00:17:38.000 Such attacks are the epitome.

00:17:41.000 Uh, and, uh, by the implementation of UN policies, such as Gen 21, sustainable development, smart growth, and in education, the widespread adoption of Common Core, 2 plus 2 equals 5.

00:17:51.000 His current research builds on Trilateral Commission hegemony involving transhumanism, technocracy, And more, and how these are co-opting economics, politics, and religion, which together represent the major pillars of society.

00:18:04.000 Yes, they're taking over all sciences, philosophies, and re-engineering them, and I appreciate them coming on.

00:18:09.000 We're going to skip this network break because I'm behind.

00:18:11.000 This is such important intelligence, so stations shouldn't be skipping this break.

00:18:15.000 It's a network break.

00:18:16.000 We're going to do this because it's time, it's important.

00:18:21.000 Augustforecast.com is his site, and he will be here frequently.

00:18:25.000 There's so many amazing minds out there that we just, you know, just tend to forget in our rush.

00:18:30.000 And Anthony Sutton, of course, advised Congress, discovered all the documents at the Ford Foundation and others, with Patrick Wood, who was a top congressional advisor, on the plan to convert America to a tyranny, how our government funded Stalin, Lenin before him.

00:18:45.000 Hitler didn't run them or control them, built them, just like Saddam and Al-Qaeda and all of it. 0.97

00:18:51.000 And to understand the scientific tyranny, the application of dehumanization, we give you probably one of the greatest living experts.

00:19:00.000 Because I went and looked into him, and I'd seen his writings, and I was like, I forgot about Patrick Wood.

00:19:04.000 Why has he never been on the show?

00:19:05.000 He might have been on, I might have forgot, but I don't believe he's ever been with us.

00:19:08.000 And it's just so important, a treasure trove.

00:19:10.000 The reason I'm building this up is, you need to understand, this is your world.

00:19:14.000 This is how it really runs.

00:19:15.000 These are the guys that in Congress got the documents and went to the Canadian archives and got the intel to put out the intel and to post the documents on their websites.

00:19:26.000 I had Sutton on about 17 years ago, and then I tried to get him on a few years later, and he said, I'm sorry, I'm too ill, but I appreciate your work.

00:19:32.000 And then he died like a week later.

00:19:34.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:19:34.000 He was like on his deathbed and was sending me emails back.

00:19:37.000 So I just really admire his work as well.

00:19:39.000 And we need to remember these men that have fought so hard.

00:19:41.000 Mr. Wood, I know it's probably annoying having me gush over you, but your intel is so vital to the preservation of human dignity.

00:19:50.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

00:19:51.000 I appreciate the opportunity to get some of this information out.

00:19:54.000 I've been trying hard, as you know, and I always enjoy doing radio and TV interviews whenever I can.

00:20:02.000 Well, let's do this.

00:20:03.000 Let's say you're talking to a new audience.

00:20:05.000 If you had five minutes on national TV, which this basically is now, three million people right now conservatively watching and listening, how would you introduce it to laymen?

00:20:13.000 Because my listeners are very smart, very informed, but they always want to give stuff to their family.

00:20:19.000 And so they want it crystallized.

00:20:21.000 Give us the basic overview and then get into the nuts and bolts of technocracy.

00:20:26.000 Well, it's really a, you know, it's a complex and a deep topic, but basically the first idea is this.

00:20:34.000 The problems we've been having in the last 35 to 40 years, especially, have been economic in nature rather than political.

00:20:41.000 And there's a lot of emphasis in the public, like in the Tea Parties, the conservative movement, and even in liberal circles as well, that the world revolves around politics.

00:20:52.000 That is, arguing in Congress and, you know, fighting with the executive branch and so on.

00:20:58.000 And my studies on the Trilateral Commission have pretty much pointed out, I think with great detail, that the takeover of America has been economic in nature.

00:21:10.000 And that was the nature originally of the Trilateral Commission.

00:21:12.000 It was formed in 1973 by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

00:21:18.000 They said frequently that they were going to create a new international economic order.

00:21:24.000 They used that in every one of their early publications.

00:21:28.000 We didn't really know at the time exactly what that would look like, but we had a pretty good idea for meeting the policies.

00:21:34.000 And they have managed over a period of now since 1973, some 35 plus years, to create this new international economic order.

00:21:43.000 And if we look around, this is what we see today, Alex.

00:21:46.000 This is what's important to realize.

00:21:48.000 Back then, people criticized us for being conspiracy nuts.

00:21:52.000 Today, we have the force of history behind us, which after a 25-year period, of course, becomes history.

00:21:58.000 We can now look back at history and see that what we said in the 1970s was exactly right.

00:22:04.000 This is exactly what they've done.

00:22:06.000 We know that the world system today is broken, almost beyond repair.

00:22:12.000 And we have to put the finger where the finger belongs.

00:22:16.000 And it belongs with this very small, elite group of internationalists That were represented by the members of the Trilateral Commission back in 1973 and ever since, I might add.

00:22:28.000 And they have influenced our government, the executive branch of our government especially.

00:22:33.000 They have influenced our government to an extreme that has literally excluded the American people altogether.

00:22:41.000 We have no control over Congress anymore, it appears.

00:22:45.000 And the executive branch is just going to do what it wants to do.

00:22:48.000 So there's been a fundamental change in the political system in our country for sure. 0.99

00:22:54.000 But the political system was really just useful idiots for this elite group of economy changers, if you will. 0.98

00:23:04.000 They had to use the political system to get what they wanted to do. 0.94

00:23:08.000 Economically over these last years and so we see we see things like the North American Free Trade Agreement, DAFTA, CAFTA, we say that we see the Trans-Pacific Partnership being negotiated right now that is hopefully not going to get put through on fast track but the administration is trying to get fast track authority established again.

00:23:33.000 So you know this this hegemony has Has continued from 1973 to today.

00:23:41.000 Hasn't let up.

00:23:43.000 Nobody has identified these people behind the scenes.

00:23:47.000 Nobody has, even politicians will not write about them or speak about them.

00:23:52.000 In fact, I think the only living politician living or dead that I know that ever talked about the Trilateral Commission was Barry Goldwater when he wrote his memoirs with no apologies back in 1979.

00:24:06.000 Um, so this group was not talked about.

00:24:09.000 These people are not talked about.

00:24:10.000 We've been writing about him since 19 well, 1977, really, and nothing has changed.

00:24:18.000 You know, they're doing the same thing today they did back then.

00:24:22.000 I don't know how else I could summarize it in a very short period of time, Alex.

00:24:25.000 Well, you've done a great job.

00:24:26.000 In fact, I'm going to pull up the Barry Goldwater quote, with no apologies, where he describes how it's an economic takeover.

00:24:33.000 We're designed to fight a Stalin, a Hitler, a Mao.

00:24:37.000 We see a foreign enemy. 0.98

00:24:38.000 But when it's corporate and regulatory and incremental, and it creates a global group of less than 100 corporations, in Rockefeller's own words, He's written New York Times articles bragging about it.

00:24:50.000 How they want centralized control and how they divide up the world.

00:24:54.000 US-based companies get the toll roads in Spain.

00:24:57.000 Spain gets the toll roads over here.

00:25:00.000 It's where they divide up the world amongst themselves.

00:25:03.000 And then bring in a technocracy to be able to control the population scientifically where it's impossible to ever get out of it or even know what you're in, and you've dumbed down the population.

00:25:15.000 So I want to walk down, walk through what technocracy and the technotronic age is, what they're doing with it, because, I mean, as best I understand it, it is the It is the Cecil Rhodes plan of 1900 and the British royalty and their empire that was in trouble.

00:25:33.000 They said, we'll go corporate, take down our flag, but use corporate energy to still control these holdings that we once had, like India and other places.

00:25:42.000 And at the same time we'll export this corporate plan and team up with other robber barons in the United States and Europe.

00:25:49.000 That's what Bilderberg later became.

00:25:51.000 But their philosophy comes out of eugenics and Malthus and Galton.

00:25:57.000 And so it's basically eugenics scientifically deployed through a world government corporate System so it's very hard to fight. 0.66

00:26:06.000 I want to get your take on that in a moment.

00:26:07.000 But we did find the quote from no apologies with Barry Goldwater.

00:26:12.000 He says quote the Trilateral Commission is an international.

00:26:16.000 Again, the Trilateral Commission is international and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interest by seizing control of the political government of the United States.

00:26:29.000 The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power, political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical, the churches, from no apologies.

00:26:41.000 Now, let me break this down for folks and give you the floor. 0.99

00:26:45.000 America was pretty much the sole superpower by the end of World War II, so the globalists had to create a fake bipolar world by giving weapons to the Soviets to then build them up to let us become a tyranny and then share in a backdoor globalist deal taking over different areas of the world in the name of fighting each other.

00:27:06.000 In full spectrum dominance.

00:27:08.000 Then, they ended that farce, and then moved on to the new Al-Qaeda threat, which they actually ran, to use that to take our liberty. 0.69

00:27:15.000 So I'm basically describing the main trait of technocracy is that it's totally amoral, except for the eugenics-based system, that it doesn't even, it uses everything, as Carol quickly said, socialism, fascism, communism, as long as it's command and control.

00:27:30.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:27:32.000 Well, the book Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, we refer to it in pretty much everywhere people talk about, oh, it's a brave new world.

00:27:42.000 That book was written in 1932, Alex, and it was written by Aldous Huxley looking straight into the face of technocracy that was a big movement back then.

00:27:54.000 I didn't discover the technocracy movement from the 1930s until a few years ago.

00:28:00.000 And when I did, it piqued my interest so much I had to investigate and just, you know, go crazy looking for information to try and find out what they're all about.

00:28:08.000 It was a huge movement back in those days, had a big popularity, a large popularity in Canada and especially in the West, although it did pretty well in the East as well.

00:28:20.000 But these technocrats specified very carefully what they would do if they could replace capitalism.

00:28:28.000 They believed in the Great Depression that capitalism was dead.

00:28:31.000 Unemployment lines were wrapping around blocks.

00:28:34.000 Soup kitchens were serving people all day long.

00:28:38.000 And they believed that they could provide an economic system that would be better than capitalism.

00:28:46.000 It didn't get very far.

00:28:47.000 It kind of died out as a movement around 1938 to 40.

00:28:52.000 But today, it's had a resurgence, if you will.

00:28:58.000 Sure, it's been adopted as the globalist management program.

00:29:01.000 It has now been adopted by the globalist management program.

00:29:04.000 And the reason I say this is important, we follow the money.

00:29:08.000 Back in the 1930s, the Rockefeller and Carnegie crowd were dumping buckets of money onto the eugenics movement.

00:29:16.000 This is well known and well documented.

00:29:18.000 They did not dump any money on the technocracy movement back then.

00:29:23.000 And so the technocracy movement kind of withered and died after a period of time.

00:29:27.000 However, when Zbigniew Brzezinski resuscitated those ideas in 1970 with his book called Between Two Ages, America's Role in the Technotronic Era, that apparently caught Rockefeller's I. That's right, Patrick Woods.

00:29:45.000 Stay there.

00:29:46.000 We'll explain who David Rockefeller is, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and more.

00:29:50.000 These two men, you can say more than anybody now, literally govern our civilization.

00:29:56.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:34.000 We're going back to our guest, and I'm willing to try to give him the floor to break down the history of this.

00:33:50.000 But you hear me start almost hyperventilating when he's talking about it because I've done the research.

00:33:55.000 I know it's true.

00:33:56.000 I watched David Rockefeller on C-SPAN 50-something times.

00:34:00.000 I read their publications.

00:34:01.000 I know out of over 70 globalist organizations set up since the 30s, he set up almost all of them, or his dad did, and he's like the omnibudsman of just all of the merger, the whole plan, and then he adopted technocracy, and that's the cameras, that's the systems, that's the, to apply that to eugenics.

00:34:23.000 And if you wonder why the New York Times endorses it and why all these elites endorse it, the Venus Project and its founder is part of the technocracy movement.

00:34:33.000 This is, you live in a giant plastic concentration camp, basically, with a computer programmed by the elite, the mega-opolis controlling your life.

00:34:42.000 I mean, I could not think of a more horrible fate.

00:34:44.000 But we're going to go back to our guest in a moment.

00:34:46.000 Here's an example of technocracy, okay?

00:34:48.000 Bureaucracy as a science of control.

00:34:52.000 And notice the elites, the central bankers the last few years have been calling themselves, and at Davos they go, we're technocrats.

00:35:01.000 That's a bureaucrat with 1984 Spygrids who has a eugenics philosophy. 0.98

00:35:05.000 But briefly, look at this.

00:35:07.000 Harvard study confirms fluoride reduces children's IQ.

00:35:10.000 Out of 20-plus studies conducted, excuse me, 27 studies, I always say 24 for some reason, 27 studies over 22 years, scientifically reviewed by Harvard Medical School and their top researchers, And the National Research Council, this is not some side group, they said take fluoride out as a pesticide, take it out of the water.

00:35:32.000 It is giving us massive cancer and dumbing us down.

00:35:35.000 You might as well have a chemical weapon.

00:35:37.000 It is a chemical weapon.

00:35:39.000 The Nazis got it from the Russians to put it in the water. 0.77

00:35:42.000 That's a Nuremberg trial.

00:35:44.000 Now it's in the halogen family.

00:35:46.000 It's the bad halogen.

00:35:48.000 What is the good halogen that blocks it and removes it?

00:35:51.000 Iodine.

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00:36:12.000 The point is, this is what I take.

00:36:14.000 It's incredible.

00:36:15.000 And yes, I fund my operation with this, with good products, but that's an example of technocracy.

00:36:20.000 Oh, the government before it was like this, in the 20s, said, oh, we were having all this retardation and problems. 0.96

00:36:24.000 Put it in the salt.

00:36:26.000 Oh, IQs go up 15%.

00:36:27.000 Here's that study.

00:36:28.000 Business Insider reports on it.

00:36:30.000 You see, that's technocracy.

00:36:32.000 Oh, let's take it out and put the bad thing in.

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00:37:20.000 Okay, now I'm going to shut up because we've only got him for like 25 minutes, then we've got the former top Secret Service agent coming on who made national headlines last week with our story from InfoWars.com on DrudgeReport.com, where he said, look, it's worse than you know, but he wouldn't go further than that.

00:37:35.000 I've talked to other Secret Service that say it's unbelievable, we can't tell you.

00:37:39.000 I'm going to see what I can squeeze out of him coming up.

00:37:42.000 Uh, at the start of the next hour.

00:37:43.000 But going back to Patrick Wood, publisher, he's an economist, renowned, exposed the Trilaterals, co-wrote the book Trilaterals Over Washington with the icon, Anthony C. Sutton, who blew skull and bones wide open with Charlotte Iserby.

00:37:56.000 He joins us.

00:37:57.000 Okay, so get into, we got up to Brzezinski, who he is, who David Rockefeller is, tell us, explain technocracy and then what's happening in our world.

00:38:06.000 Americans don't ought to like communism.

00:38:08.000 Well, explain what technocracy is.

00:38:10.000 Communism by the elite, by another name, with them offshore exempt from it.

00:38:15.000 Patrick Wood, break it down.

00:38:17.000 Well, when I discovered technocracy as a historical study a few years ago, it really piqued my interest and I said I had to go and research it in depth and I made several trips to secure original research on technocracy.

00:38:33.000 I found out that It had been skipped in the history books primarily because at the time, in the thirties, Randolph Hearst got so hacked off by being used by these people that he sent a memo out to all of his newspapers around the country and told them, basically, if you ever mention the word technocracy again, you are fired.

00:38:54.000 And so there was no more articles on technocracy after that time, really.

00:38:58.000 And so it was a little difficult going back and getting this information.

00:39:01.000 But after I studied it enough, It really occurred to me that I needed to go back and read Zbigniew Brzezinski's book again, in light of technocracy.

00:39:12.000 And what I found out, Alex, is that his writings lined up philosophically and, you know, idea for idea sort of thing, with the doctrine and dogma that was presented in the 1930s.

00:39:23.000 It was very radical back then.

00:39:25.000 In fact, one prominent technocrat wrote a book, a public book, Suggesting that President Roosevelt should declare himself dictator after his election so that he could implement technocracy back then.

00:39:40.000 We can be thankful that he didn't take him up on that.

00:39:43.000 But life might be different today.

00:39:46.000 But when I went back and read Krasinski again, I was shocked to realize that he was basically saying the same thing.

00:39:56.000 And here's what's kind of ironic or strange.

00:39:59.000 Brzezinski was at Columbia University at the time.

00:40:03.000 Well, in 1932, technocracy as a movement was also housed in Columbia University.

00:40:13.000 Even though the movement got kicked out, all of the professors that were part of it stayed on at Columbia.

00:40:19.000 Many of them died there in their positions, you know, retired and passed.

00:40:23.000 And so here's Brzezinski picking up the trail at the same university where it left off.

00:40:29.000 Basically spouting the same dogma.

00:40:32.000 One phrase in particular from his book, one quote, I'd like to read it just because it will just stand your hair on end, that Brzezinski understood this even back in 68-70.

00:40:45.000 And I'll have to be the first to admit, Brzezinski was a brilliant man.

00:40:49.000 I don't agree with him on anything he really did or said or wrote, but you have to give him credit for being a brilliant guy.

00:40:57.000 He foresaw the future back then.

00:41:00.000 Of course, they went and manufactured the future after that, but here's what he wrote.

00:41:05.000 The Technotronic Era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society.

00:41:11.000 technocratic.

00:41:12.000 So he quote again, the technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society.

00:41:20.000 Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values.

00:41:27.000 Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete trials containing even the most personal information about the - Set a set.

00:41:42.000 These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.

00:41:49.000 Now, I remember that book being on the bookshelf when I was a small child, and by the time I was 10 and was able to read good, I tried to read it, didn't understand it, but I sat around the kitchen table hearing all this from my father growing up, and that's the Internet.

00:42:05.000 That's all of it.

00:42:06.000 It was all built and designed to be this grid.

00:42:09.000 So they've built a society to control us, and that's the nanny state. 0.99

00:42:14.000 That's the Close the Greenbelt for no reason and control people. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Set up checkpoints.

00:42:21.000 Tell your kids they can't play tag.

00:42:23.000 Say the state rules your kids. 0.96

00:42:25.000 This is putting a grid in the name of keeping us safe in that's actually a grid of tyranny and control.

00:42:32.000 Well, it's interesting that the documents from the early 1930s specified what needed to take place in order for technocracy to survive, or to be implanted.

00:42:45.000 One of the things, because technocracy was energy-based, one of the main tenets of their Philosophy was that the price-based economic system was going to be discarded, that was capitalism of course, and it was going to be substituted by a system of energy credits or energy currency that would be used to monitor all exchange of goods and services in the economy.

00:43:11.000 And a carbon-based currency, we haven't seen that of course quite yet, but we see the push for carbon-based everything around the world.

00:43:19.000 This is what sustainable development's about.

00:43:21.000 This is what everything green is about.

00:43:24.000 This is what Agenda 21 is about.

00:43:27.000 You get the idea.

00:43:28.000 It's everywhere today.

00:43:30.000 And in fact, there are actually articles out in the last five years that are openly discussing carbon currency, but it's really kind of still in a minor mode.

00:43:40.000 And in England, they show the school kids a cartoon called Megapolis, where the computer tells you when you can go outside, it tells you when you can eat.

00:43:48.000 Everyone has their job in the technocracy.

00:43:51.000 You're only allowed to have one child.

00:43:53.000 This is the plan.

00:43:54.000 So for folks out there, it's fun to know about football and what size, you know, jockstrap your favorite sports person wears for whatever reason.

00:44:03.000 I'm being sarcastic.

00:44:05.000 But that doesn't matter.

00:44:06.000 That's a diversion.

00:44:07.000 You read these books written in the 1930s by Aldous Huxley, whose brother was a eugenicist and went on to found the transhumanist movement and head up the UN UNESCO program and Agenda 21 and all of it that came out of a meeting in 92.

00:44:25.000 You really see it's all the same control freak scientific dictatorship system under different names.

00:44:34.000 It's just that the brilliantly evil Brzezinski Who believes in things beyond good and evil, foresaw the gestalt, and got the real world manager, David Rockefeller, behind it.

00:44:48.000 Because David Rockefeller, if you had to say one guy's king of the world, you'd have to say it was David Rockefeller.

00:44:53.000 Not so much now, but he was the prime mover working 18 hours a day to bring this world government in.

00:44:59.000 And now his people are in place everywhere, and he chose the Brzezinski model On record.

00:45:05.000 And then he integrated it with eco-science eugenicist model.

00:45:09.000 The injections and the additives to dumb us down.

00:45:11.000 It's all White House science are on record.

00:45:13.000 And you realize this is their military battle plan assaulting us. 1.00

00:45:17.000 And they think we're so dumb. 0.98

00:45:20.000 That we wouldn't get this and warn people. 0.90

00:45:22.000 And the elite's comments to me when I've talked to some of the high-level people, and I mean head of the Kissinger Group on record and others off record, is, Alex, the public can't even understand you.

00:45:32.000 You're one of us, even if you don't know it, and you're going to grow up and see that.

00:45:36.000 I'm going to grow up and see that and block development in the third world when that would actually reduce their population. 0.99

00:45:41.000 What you claim you want, I've got to see that when you're busy funding Al Qaeda to then blow stuff up to take my rights. 0.88

00:45:47.000 The point is they claim it's all scientific for the better good.

00:45:51.000 At the bottom of it is really an authoritarian lust for dehumanization.

00:45:55.000 And I want you to continue with your presentation and all these slides you sent us for the TV viewers.

00:46:01.000 Continuing to get into their plan, studying them, and working with Sutton on their larger plan, what would you say their real philosophy was?

00:46:11.000 I mean, in just ten words or less.

00:46:12.000 I mean, what is it?

00:46:14.000 Neo-feudalist?

00:46:15.000 Just haters of humanity?

00:46:17.000 Control freaks?

00:46:18.000 Who are these people?

00:46:20.000 Well, they're driven by money.

00:46:22.000 They're driven by a lust for money.

00:46:25.000 They sought to create a new international economic order in 1973.

00:46:29.000 I don't really think that game plan has changed.

00:46:34.000 It's still an economic issue.

00:46:35.000 It's still about profits.

00:46:37.000 It's still about manipulation of the markets for their good.

00:46:41.000 They would press out competition, and they have pressed out competition over the decades.

00:46:47.000 Um, so it's still, they're still looking to make as much money as they can.

00:46:53.000 They have little regard for the amount of money that you and I might make.

00:46:56.000 In fact, the original model of technocracy from the 30s did away with private property altogether.

00:47:02.000 We see this theme picked up in Agenda 21 documents, by the way, that private property is out.

00:47:09.000 Well sure, they want a post-industrial world.

00:47:11.000 They want to make us poor, in their own words, as a tool of control.

00:47:16.000 Well, essentially, what they want is just all of our production, Alex.

00:47:19.000 If you go back to the feudal world, the Dark Ages, it was very dark, and you look at people back then, they were mostly farmers, agrarian, but they were productive, they were able to grow things, and the land yielded stuff.

00:47:32.000 It's just that the lords of the land took 90% of everything that they grew.

00:47:40.000 Or, you know, the animals they bred.

00:47:42.000 They were not allowed to keep anything except for just, you know, what they needed to stay alive.

00:47:48.000 And this is kind of where we're going.

00:47:50.000 They're still looking at getting the output of our hands, if you will, the output of our production.

00:47:57.000 But they want it for themselves.

00:47:59.000 They don't want to share it back with us.

00:48:02.000 So even in the end, that's still a very economic-oriented You're right, and they used our energy to build their little castles in the sky for their power trip, so it's robbing our destiny.

00:48:15.000 Continue with your presentation.

00:48:16.000 That's exactly right.

00:48:18.000 Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in 1970, again in Between Two Ages, and I quote this, he said, The nation-state as a fundamental unit of man's organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force.

00:48:30.000 International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concept of the nation-state.

00:48:41.000 Close quote.

00:48:42.000 That says a mouthful, but this also has not changed.

00:48:46.000 This philosophy of this elite group has not changed since Brzezinski wrote that in 1970.

00:48:52.000 And they believe that the nation-state is basically just not compatible with reality, and they are acting as if it did not exist.

00:49:01.000 So, as they move forward in the world, in China, in Europe, and of course in India and other minor countries, and especially in North America, as they have moved forward, we can see their fingerprints and their footprints all over the economic scene, and they have used or co-opted the political mechanisms to achieve their new economic order pipe dream.

00:49:26.000 Well, that's right.

00:49:27.000 Instead of an economy based on whoever has the best innovations, who's the most honorable, it becomes who is the technocrats?

00:49:34.000 Who is in control?

00:49:35.000 And then they're tax-exempt under globalism and have diplomatic immunity, and we are just crushed by total surveillance, which is their plan.

00:49:45.000 You know, you're old enough to remember some of the old green people from maybe the 60s and 70s with their long hair and so on.

00:49:54.000 If you can find one of those original green people today and talk to them about the current state of the green movement, you'll see them spitting molten nails because they believe that their movement was taken over by these people, the Rockefeller crowd and so on.

00:50:11.000 They were given a lot of money, then they were told after they had the money, well you're not managing right, we need to send in our managers to manage the organization, and basically the whole green movement got hijacked by this group and now has been turned on us, of course showered with money, but it has been turned on us to bring this green agenda to bring in an energy-based society.

00:50:35.000 And as an economic system, I can't stress that enough because that's what Smart Grid is all about, for instance.

00:50:42.000 That's what Cap-and-Trade is all about, for instance.

00:50:45.000 That's what global warming is all about, for instance.

00:50:47.000 With Al Gore being on the front of every publication, almost, that has anything to do with global warming, Al Gore is a member of the Trilateral Commission.

00:50:58.000 Still is.

00:50:59.000 Stay there.

00:50:59.000 That's right.

00:51:00.000 We're going to come back with our guest to break this down.

00:51:02.000 I'm Alex Jones with InfoWars.com.

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00:54:28.000 Folks, here's an example of how the propaganda is 24-7.

00:54:33.000 I was in the coffee room this morning watching MSNBC monitoring state-run media and they were promoting the end of the earth because of the hurricane or the Typhoon that hit the Philippines and saying Al Gore was right.

00:54:50.000 We've got to do the carbon taxes.

00:54:52.000 That will save it.

00:54:55.000 And then just now during the break on CNN, they're worshipping Ted Turner and his far-reaching impact was the headline and how he is saving the earth.

00:55:06.000 I mean, it's just never-ending.

00:55:08.000 Let us run the world.

00:55:10.000 We're saving you.

00:55:12.000 And then meanwhile, Ted Turner, David Rockefeller, all of them are on record supporting an 80 plus percent population reduction.

00:55:20.000 We're joined by Patrick Wood.

00:55:22.000 He sent us amazing documents today.

00:55:24.000 If you're a TV viewer, we've been putting these documents and documentation and quotes up on screen.

00:55:29.000 We've got until five after next hour.

00:55:31.000 Then we've got the famous Secret Service agent joining us with Inside Intel.

00:55:35.000 But Patrick, in the time we've got left in this segment and the next, I want to have you back very soon.

00:55:41.000 Get into their philosophy, eugenics, how it ties into the older globalist plans and all the other key points that people need to know about technocracy, the system that we're going under right now.

00:55:55.000 Well, we haven't really broached the subject of transhumanism, and I don't know that we have time to do that, but... Start getting into it.

00:56:05.000 The Rockefeller crowd back in the 30s, well, the 1920s and 30s, poured a lot of money into the eugenics movement.

00:56:14.000 And it was a very big movement back then.

00:56:16.000 It's kind of been buried.

00:56:18.000 Especially buried since World War II with Nazi Germany's experience with eugenics. 0.72

00:56:25.000 Kind of been a taboo topic and hasn't been discussed much.

00:56:28.000 Yeah, they call it implementation by stealth.

00:56:30.000 That's their official policy.

00:56:32.000 Well, it is now, for sure.

00:56:35.000 Back then, though, since there wasn't a lot of money poured on top of Technocracy Incorporated, eugenics was not really part of their agenda.

00:56:45.000 Not directly, in any case.

00:56:46.000 Some of their members were obviously influenced by the eugenics movement back then, but that was not really an official part of their platform, if you will.

00:56:59.000 They were very economic in nature.

00:57:01.000 They were focused on creating an economy that would be balanced, that would be free of poverty.

00:57:09.000 Exactly, but David Rockefeller wants to use it to carry out eugenics.

00:57:13.000 He wants a computerized, weaponized system to dehumanize.

00:57:17.000 Well, yes, we can see the dovetail in modern times, where eugenics is an undercurrent that's starting to come back to the surface in this.

00:57:29.000 Transhumanism really brings this out. 0.99

00:57:32.000 Transhumanism and technocracy are like Siamese twins joined at the hip, if you will.

00:57:37.000 They're both based on scientism, the philosophy of scientism.

00:57:41.000 And transhumanism basically sets up a society of the haves and the have-nots, again, based on genetic modification.

00:57:51.000 And so those who are genetically enhanced, if you will, will be the haves, and the rest of the people who are not genetically enhanced, maybe they won't be as smart, maybe they won't be as strong or athletic or whatever, they will be the have-nots.

00:58:08.000 And, you know, basically we'll end up with a eugenic system that can be controlled by a push button rather than by EDIC as it was during Nazi Germany.

00:58:17.000 And then people will beg to be enslaved by the new genetic modifications in the toxic environment when it's really a Trojan horse back door of control.

00:58:25.000 That's how they always sell it.

00:58:27.000 Absolutely on target with your research, and of course, as you said, Huxley was one of these transhumanists before it even had the term, and his brother founded that movement when eugenics was given a bad name on record.

00:58:39.000 We're gonna come back in 60 seconds, give you five more minutes to get into other tidbits.

00:58:42.000 We'll definitely have to have you back in the near future.

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01:00:31.000 All right, final segment with the man that heads up AugustForecast.com, the amazing Patrick Wood.

01:00:47.000 And I tell you, next time I'm out of town, because this excites me so much I won't shut up, but I'm adding important info.

01:00:54.000 And like David Knight does the show, he's a smart engineer, knows about this stuff.

01:00:58.000 He ought to have Wood on for like two hours.

01:01:02.000 So the next time I'm out of town or the next time I'm not doing the show and I have night doing it, I want to get wood on for two hours.

01:01:08.000 Patrick, what have we not covered today that people need to know about?

01:01:11.000 I think it's important that suddenly the globalists, the new term they use is technocrat.

01:01:15.000 I mean, they're really trying to make that sexy and, you know, it's not surveillance that they watch everything we do.

01:01:20.000 They're watching it to make the economy better, but really they're just giving it to the insiders.

01:01:25.000 Well, you know, the spooky thing is, let me read you two of the official requirements from the 1932 document called Technocracy Study Course.

01:01:34.000 That was kind of their Bible of the day.

01:01:37.000 One said, quote, provide a specific registration of the type, kind, etc.

01:01:41.000 of all goods and services where produced or where used.

01:01:44.000 The next one says, provide specific registration of the consumption of each individual plus a record and description of the individual.

01:01:54.000 And Alex, this is exactly what the Total Surveillance Society is doing to us right now.

01:01:59.000 They're collecting all of the financial records, as well as any other profile or psychographic information they can get, so they can slice us and dice us economically, if you will, and put us in, you know, maybe pigeonhole us politically as well.

01:02:12.000 You know, there are threats to their system, but this is an economic movement.

01:02:18.000 To try and extract the maximum amount possible from individual consumers is very consumer-centric, but everything is focused on collecting this information to make this system work.

01:02:32.000 This is the last piece, according to the original documents of technocracy, that needs to be put in place before technocracy can actually be enforced.

01:02:44.000 And that's why I'm really concerned today about this total awareness society business because when they get this in place completely, somewhere in knowledge is power of course, there's going to come a time when they can flip the switch and basically say, we're now in control and now you will do what we say.

01:03:03.000 That's right.

01:03:04.000 It's a total military takeover.

01:03:05.000 The smart meters controlling how hot or cold our house is.

01:03:08.000 The satellites not letting us cut a tiny tree in our backyard.

01:03:11.000 Just absolute bureaucratic hell.

01:03:14.000 And then the robots get rid of the regular jobs and the farming.

01:03:18.000 So literally, like a Kurt Vonnegut book, their plan is to have a third of the population as enforcers, and they're going to hire the people they poisoned through the eugenics operation to literally rule over those of us that are informed. 0.94

01:03:30.000 So it's not even the eugenics that they've claimed they're building.

01:03:33.000 If somebody wanted really to feed the world, what we need to do is increase the CO2 content in the atmosphere by 10%.

01:03:39.000 That's right.

01:03:42.000 It would feed the world in a heartbeat.

01:03:43.000 But when you take CO2 out, plants can't grow, crops can't thrive, and people start... Well, see, I would endorse a real open market, open source technocracy That empowered and had us go to Alpha Centauri's.

01:04:01.000 But this, this, this, this technocracy is a bunch of beam counting communists adopted by robber baron eugenicists that openly are using it as a weapon system.

01:04:10.000 And so we've got to point out technocracy is what's delivering the poverty.

01:04:14.000 It's the enemy.

01:04:16.000 It is the enemy, and the people who have brought us technocracy are the enemy as well. 0.99

01:04:21.000 I wouldn't really lay the blame necessarily at the feet of congressmen and senators, but, you know, because they've mostly been useful idiots and not really knowing what they're doing. 0.90

01:04:31.000 But if we look behind it to these people who have brought us technocracy, this is where the trouble is. 0.98

01:04:38.000 And if we don't get rid of those people and get them out of our government system and get them off our back, They will not be stopped, and we will never be satisfied.

01:04:49.000 You know, how much water can you squeeze out of a sponge?

01:04:53.000 This is what they're doing to us.

01:04:55.000 And the only way to get more water out of the sponge is to wring it harder and harder.

01:04:59.000 That's right.

01:05:00.000 Patrick Wood, Augustforecast.com.

01:05:00.000 That's the plan.

01:05:03.000 We're going to be talking to you soon.

01:05:04.000 Folks can find your great work right there.

01:05:06.000 Thank you so much, sir.

01:05:08.000 Thank you, Alex.

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01:08:42.000 Coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'm going to go back to Roy, Jeff, John, Peter, Kat, and others that want to talk about Obamacare.

01:08:51.000 Are they still supporters of it or were they ever?

01:08:53.000 Some of them are Obama supporters calling and they want to discuss it.

01:08:56.000 Speaking of that, we're going to put up on screen for TV viewers, radio listeners can go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

01:09:04.000 Former MSNBC host, health plan soars 350% thanks to Obamacare.

01:09:11.000 And he tweeted out, I bought a catastrophic health policy for $170 a month when I left MSNBC.

01:09:18.000 Obamacare cancelled the policy, new rate $600 a month, thanks Mr. President.

01:09:25.000 And he should feel good.

01:09:26.000 Some folks are having 500, 600 percent increases.

01:09:30.000 So there you go.

01:09:31.000 Affordable Care Act.

01:09:33.000 The joke is on all of us.

01:09:36.000 And I want to replay his quote meltdown where he said, we have a corrupt government. 0.97

01:09:39.000 It's evil.

01:09:40.000 They've all got to be removed.

01:09:41.000 America's in deep trouble.

01:09:42.000 And they fired him, basically forced him out of it.

01:09:44.000 Remember that?

01:09:46.000 It was like a year ago.

01:09:46.000 How long ago was that?

01:09:47.000 Time just flies.

01:09:49.000 I don't remember.

01:09:49.000 Six months?

01:09:51.000 About six months ago.

01:09:53.000 I mean, he just said what was true.

01:09:55.000 That's crazy!

01:09:57.000 There's not an out-of-control political class. 0.78

01:09:59.000 You're fired!

01:10:00.000 Doesn't matter if you had some of the highest ratings in that area for that station that has no ratings.

01:10:06.000 I mean, it's just, it's like, if you don't commit to evil, you get purged.

01:10:11.000 If you don't commit to insanity, you get removed.

01:10:15.000 Now, Michael Maloof joins us with some just amazing research.

01:10:19.000 We're so thankful he could come on.

01:10:20.000 Currently, he's a senior staff writer for WorldNetDaily.com, specializing in international political and economic analysis, former senior security policy analyst for the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

01:10:31.000 Maloof has almost 30 years of federal service, 23 years of which was with the U.S.

01:10:36.000 Defense Department.

01:10:37.000 If I go over all of his military, Defense Department history, we'll never be able to get to him.

01:10:43.000 So we're just going to tell you that he's also a best-selling author.

01:10:45.000 Malouf's recent book, A Nation Forsaken, EMP, The Escalating Threat of American Catastrophe, published by WorldNetDaily, available at WND.com.

01:10:56.000 And he joins us He joins us right now to talk about something that we've been covering the last two years.

01:11:04.000 In fact, we've been right at the forefront, as WorldNetDaily has been, and others have been, getting into the fact that Obama is radically, as he promised to do, transforming America.

01:11:20.000 In the regulatory positions, the military positions, in the judgeships, everywhere, really putting hardcore Marxists, worshippers of Lenin, Mao, Socialists, Eugenicists, I mean this is scary.

01:11:36.000 So it doesn't matter when Obama leaves, we've got a crew of really dangerous people in there, who fundamentally hate this country on record.

01:11:45.000 Obama went to Reverend Wright's church 21 years.

01:11:47.000 It was like a Ku Klux Klan meeting house for black folks, but he never really heard the sermons.

01:11:52.000 This is pure bull.

01:11:53.000 And of course, he's a front man for the globalists, but the point is, they're using this radical Marxist ideology as the shock troops to take over.

01:12:00.000 That the insider we have on right now, Michael Maloof, he has talked to all these major generals, you name it, brigadier generals, the list goes on and on, who've confirmed what our Navy SEAL sources have said on record and off record, what our military police sources have said, what Fort Hood PSYOPS has told us that we've confirmed.

01:12:19.000 They've given us good intel over and over again.

01:12:20.000 These are good men.

01:12:21.000 I've met them.

01:12:24.000 There is a total purge with a litmus test.

01:12:26.000 Will you confiscate guns?

01:12:28.000 Now, this is a litmus test on other issues as well, but we've got Mr. Maloof on with us right now.

01:12:35.000 His articles at worldnetdaily.com, and we link to them on infowars.com.

01:12:41.000 Here's Alan West.

01:12:42.000 Congress must probe military firings.

01:12:44.000 I agree with that.

01:12:45.000 I've been saying that for months.

01:12:46.000 General blames Night Stalker for military purge.

01:12:50.000 He's got General Boykin, all of them going public.

01:12:53.000 Congressional Medal of Honor winners going public.

01:12:56.000 Major generals, you name it.

01:12:57.000 And so he joins us.

01:12:58.000 Sir, thank you so much.

01:12:59.000 Please break down from your high-level sources as much as you can tell us.

01:13:04.000 Well, thanks for having me.

01:13:05.000 Thank you.

01:13:07.000 Number one, there seems to be something permeating not only at the high ranks, but now it's coming down to the mid-levels and even mid-level officers and even into the enlisted ranks.

01:13:23.000 If you disagree with the president's or the administration's policy, you are basically set aside and your career is basically ended.

01:13:34.000 And this seems to be catching on more and more.

01:13:36.000 Now there are, as Congressman West mentioned to me, there are some zipper issues that have occurred, even among the higher ranks.

01:13:45.000 But as General Boykin told me, this is unprecedented to have so many flag officers, so many four-star generals removed in such a short period of time.

01:13:55.000 We're talking about nine general officers just in one year.

01:13:58.000 He removed some the previous years.

01:14:02.000 Some of the other presidents, Bush and removed a few generals because they disagreed with his policy on Iraq.

01:14:11.000 But it wasn't at the scale that we're seeing in the Obama administration today.

01:14:16.000 In fact, sir, I've seen Defense Link articles, and I've seen your articles, and break it down, it's 200 or more.

01:14:22.000 This has never happened in U.S.

01:14:25.000 history, and it's not like it's a downsizing.

01:14:28.000 This is political persecution.

01:14:30.000 Can you tell us what the generals have told you the litmus tests are?

01:14:33.000 Well, some of the litmus tests include if you speak out against radical Islam, like Lieutenant Colonel Dooley.

01:14:43.000 Uh, this was, uh, and then General Dempsey, who's our, who's the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, actually ridiculed Doolittle for doing that.

01:14:51.000 But this was an instructor who was talking about radical Islam in a classroom, in an approved class, and yet he's out.

01:14:59.000 And so it's, and we've had some other, uh, Well, that was my next point.

01:15:15.000 We have Fort Hood leaking two weeks ago, and then Fox confirmed it, and the Secretary of the Army, as you know, went public.

01:15:20.000 They were saying, if you're evangelical or give money to the Tea Party, we will court-martial you.

01:15:25.000 That is unprecedented.

01:15:26.000 And then bad-mouthing the Founding Fathers in Army manuals?

01:15:29.000 I mean, this is absurdist.

01:15:31.000 Yeah, the generals have been quite vocal that if you're not speaking the administration outlook on things, you're basically going to be railroaded out.

01:15:44.000 Generally, the generals and military personnel generally cannot speak out against the commander-in-chief while they're on active duty.

01:15:53.000 Exactly, sir.

01:15:54.000 So you're the expert on this.

01:15:55.000 From what I've read, these guys really aren't even bucking things.

01:15:59.000 They just know they're patriots, so they must be spying on them or have intelligence files on them?

01:16:04.000 Well, as I think General Vallali told me, they actually have senior officers who are acting almost like communist political commissars.

01:16:15.000 That's right.

01:16:16.000 who are looking out for anyone who expresses opposition or even questions a policy determination.

01:16:26.000 And the troops believe that their First Amendment rights now are being dismissed as a consequence.

01:16:36.000 Well, yes, sir, Mr. Maloufio.

01:16:37.000 If you tell somebody you can't give money to evangelicals or the Tea Party, that is a trillion times over the top.

01:16:43.000 I mean, that's like Soviet level.

01:16:46.000 Yep.

01:16:47.000 Well, that's why General Velali said it was like communist commissars.

01:16:52.000 This is the way things are going.

01:16:54.000 The enlisted men and even the mid-level officers are trying to watch their six constantly now because they don't know.

01:17:03.000 If they say something that's out of line, they don't know if this is the end of their career.

01:17:07.000 Often times they're not told anything.

01:17:09.000 Nothing.

01:17:09.000 It's just that they just don't get promoted and they get set aside and if you don't get promoted after a certain period of time, you're out.

01:17:17.000 Now you talk about the big issue here.

01:17:19.000 The morale.

01:17:20.000 They've got to know.

01:17:22.000 Persecuting Christians, saying you can't even give money to the Tea Party, violating the First Amendment.

01:17:26.000 I mean, they've got to know that's going to kill morale.

01:17:29.000 Trying to put women in front line combat. 1.00

01:17:32.000 Yes.

01:17:32.000 There are three elements here that are really sticking in the crawl of a lot of the military personnel.

01:17:38.000 That is, one would be gays in the same foxholes, women in the foxholes, as well as the rules of engagement. 0.98

01:17:50.000 Rules of engagement are really a demoralizing factor, and as a consequence, a number of our troops have actually gotten killed because we couldn't respond in a firefight, or there could be the possibility of civilians, and so our troops have had to stand down.

01:18:11.000 There have been instances of this time and again, especially in Afghanistan.

01:18:17.000 And it's actually gotten some of our troops killed.

01:18:19.000 But then meanwhile, that's when it's a group they want to protect.

01:18:22.000 Meanwhile, from what I've read from my sources, what's really freaking the military out is that they're now actually having to go to Iraq and Jordan and actually train al-Qaeda.

01:18:31.000 And these guys are on the record on foreign news bragging that they literally insult on the basis.

01:18:37.000 I'm surprised they don't get killed. 0.99

01:18:38.000 These special warfare people and say, I killed you dirty Americans just five years ago in Iraq. 1.00

01:18:44.000 And when I'm done with Assad, I'm going to kill you. 1.00

01:18:47.000 That has got Special Warfare literally, literally freaking out because, as you know, committing suicide because they're being told to train al Qaeda. 0.99

01:18:55.000 What can you say about that?

01:18:57.000 Well, the problem is that we're seeing increasing numbers of these guys who are our friends today but are going to turn on us tomorrow just like we trained the Mujahideen and actually helped create the Mujahideen against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and now it's become our worst enemy.

01:19:16.000 Well, sir, I've been asking the questions.

01:19:18.000 We've had guys shot by, you know, green on blue and there have been some very recent cases of this.

01:19:27.000 Yes, sir.

01:19:27.000 You're the expert on this with your sources.

01:19:29.000 I mean, you've got Congressional Medal of Honor winners, retired major generals.

01:19:33.000 I mean, just an incredible list talking to you and really not to anybody else.

01:19:38.000 Why have they come to you, A?

01:19:39.000 And then, B, I've been asking the questions.

01:19:41.000 I want to give you the floor the next 10 minutes, sir.

01:19:43.000 Give us a presentation on what you think is most important, what people need to know, and what this is going to do To US force structure with China and the rest of it literally turning into something like a Marxist college.

01:19:56.000 I mean, that's going to destroy the military.

01:19:58.000 A few of the generals told me, I reached out to them.

01:20:04.000 Some of them have been somewhat outspoken on this, but when you actually confront them and get them to think about it, they see a much larger problem here that's emerging and it's permeating throughout the ranks.

01:20:16.000 It's just not a few.

01:20:18.000 And they're seeing some of these firings as being politically motivated.

01:20:21.000 For example, the three generals that got canned right on the eve of, right after Benghazi.

01:20:29.000 The concern is that they were using the firings to deflect attention from this ongoing investigation on Benghazi, which is far from resolved.

01:20:39.000 And as a consequence, there seems to be the notion of trying to hide things.

01:20:46.000 We've had some CIA officers actually told, if you go up and testify, you're going to be removed from your jobs.

01:20:52.000 So the intimidation is somewhat happening in the intelligence world, but it's also much more, and it's easier in the military world, because these guys have to salute, take orders, and shut up.

01:21:07.000 But the overarching picture is that it's having a fundamental problem of emasculating the troops.

01:21:18.000 I've had General Vallali and even General Grady tell me that our readiness is being affected as a consequence of this.

01:21:28.000 Our troops, our troop structure is being cut back tremendously.

01:21:31.000 They're using age-old equipment.

01:21:34.000 Our ships, we're down to about a third of the size of what our Navy was in terms of capital ships at the time.

01:21:44.000 So there's a complete emasculation of our military forces across the board.

01:21:51.000 And this is becoming a very, very serious problem in terms of readiness.

01:21:55.000 And I think this is what is really of concern to the upper brass.

01:22:02.000 Well, again, if you just joined us, we have a gentleman who advised the Pentagon on national security at the highest levels for a long time in the office of the Secretary of Defense, Michael Maloof.

01:22:14.000 He's got his new book out.

01:22:15.000 We'll talk about that some briefly here in a minute.

01:22:18.000 Look, here's my issue, okay?

01:22:20.000 I'm known as this radical libertarian guy that, you know, is so out there.

01:22:24.000 Now I'm not known as that because it's all coming true.

01:22:26.000 I wish I'd been proven wrong.

01:22:28.000 I would love to, like, Not work this hard, not be in this much danger with these people, with the threats and the socialist harassment and all of it.

01:22:35.000 But, I mean, it does get to a point where I can't even believe this, that we have the training manual and the threats, saying the founding fathers, quote, wouldn't be accepted into today's military.

01:22:48.000 I mean, I can't even believe it's that over the top.

01:22:52.000 We have them saying, if you were part of the Tea Party and give them money, that's aiding a terrorist.

01:22:57.000 And we're going to use stuff that's used on Al-Qaeda, if you're funding radical Islam, and we're going to arrest you. 0.98

01:23:02.000 It actually said, you may be court-martialed.

01:23:06.000 That is so over the top, and then meanwhile, there is radical Islam, and I'm not some, as they call it, Islamophobe.

01:23:12.000 But I know there are those major radical elements that Obama is totally cozying up to.

01:23:18.000 So let me ask you this question from your inside sources and overall full-spectrum analysis of this.

01:23:24.000 What is the strategy backing radical Islam, trying to overthrow the military?

01:23:30.000 I'm not a total fan of it, but they're better than Al-Qaeda, ten times better, in places like Egypt. 0.82

01:23:35.000 Getting rid of Gaddafi, putting in Al Qaeda, trying to get rid of Assad, put in the crazies. 0.91

01:23:41.000 I mean, what is the grand stratagem here?

01:23:44.000 Well, there seems to be, part of it I think has to do with a traditional type of alliance that we had basically with the Saudis.

01:23:54.000 The Saudis have been the biggest exporters of Wahhabi, Sunni Wahhabism for years and of course they were the creation of a lot of the Islamist radicals. 0.99

01:24:08.000 I mean you have Prince Bandar now who is Well, you might not agree with the government of Bashar al-Assad, but in Syria, he is a major backer and financier of the foreign fighters that are going in there.

01:24:26.000 He's also, and also the Chechens.

01:24:29.000 He told Putin that he can turn on and off the switch.

01:24:32.000 I think a lot of this has to do with our traditional ties and the fact that Obama now has begun to show a little bit of a tilt toward Iran that has even incensed the Saudis even more, and they're actually increasing a lot of the spread of the Islamic radical fighters.

01:25:00.000 So you now today see them not only waiting for the United States to leave Afghanistan and opening up, which will then allow these radicals to come back into Central Asia, into the Caucasus, but also into the Arabian Peninsula. 0.56

01:25:15.000 And then you swing around into Somalia and North Africa and into the Maghreb.

01:25:20.000 There is a pattern of behavior of these radical Islamists, and a lot of this is actually beyond our control today.

01:25:29.000 And with the decimation of our own military and the fact that we are not, that this radical Islamic movements are actually increasing and not diminishing because of all the work we did in, I agree. 0.99

01:25:43.000 Well, sir, I was about to say, I mean, I'm not a military man like yourself for a long time inside of the Defense Department, but I've made a study of just history.

01:25:50.000 that took somewhat to increase more special forces and what have you.

01:25:54.000 Well, sir, I was about to say, I mean, I'm not a military man like yourself for a long time, insider at the Defense Department, but I've made a study of just history.

01:25:54.000 I agree.

01:26:01.000 It's so interesting.

01:26:02.000 I mean, I look at where America is right now, and if I wanted to destroy America, even midterm, I would do what Obama's doing.

01:26:09.000 And I've got to admit, he's probably now ten times worse than I thought he would be.

01:26:13.000 I mean, this just, at a gut level, I look at all the different strategies and stratagem and gambits that are going on, and clearly, I see U.S.

01:26:26.000 interests now turning al-Qaeda loose in the Red Crescent around Russia, threatening China.

01:26:33.000 And I'm not a fan of what China's doing. 0.94

01:26:34.000 I'm an American.

01:26:35.000 But I see almost a setup against America.

01:26:40.000 To put us into wars we can't win, with infiltration in the military to destroy it, and I've always been somebody who's more libertarian like Rand Paul, I say cut it, but now I get what you're saying is that there's... I mean, for the first time ever, I know the whole CFR elite and stuff are globalist, but...

01:26:57.000 I mean, are they really crazy enough to try to really destroy American credibility and get rid of us and maybe just sell out to the Communist Chinese or something? 0.98

01:27:06.000 I mean, I just look at it and everything points towards sell-out America, and the globalists have power through America.

01:27:13.000 And I've criticized that strategy. 0.85

01:27:15.000 I don't like being that corrupt imp, but this is really bad.

01:27:19.000 Yeah, well, we're seeing it now as we try to deploy and do that pivot to East Asia. 0.59

01:27:24.000 Yes.

01:27:25.000 We just don't have the Navy to deal with that on a full-time basis and try to live up to commitments elsewhere.

01:27:31.000 And when you have a diminished naval force, it's going to make it even much more difficult.

01:27:39.000 And we're going to have people who are just going to leave the military.

01:27:41.000 Uh, the fact, to get back here to a second, to the, to the, uh, uh, of our own military, the fact that they're now, uh, easing out the captains and the majors, the people who have actually been fighting the wars, and, and they're, they're now leaving, then who do we have who has, who's had that battlefield experience as they get on up to the upper, upper ranks?

01:28:04.000 It's going to be, it's going to be very, very serious problem, uh, as, as, uh, in the, in the years to come.

01:28:10.000 In keeping a very strong military, and I think that this is what's alarming the generals to a great extent.

01:28:16.000 And this is going to have a bearing on our force structure and our ability to project power in the future.

01:28:24.000 And look out for our interests that we have all around the world.

01:28:26.000 Now these other countries that you mentioned, Russia and China, now it's intriguing that they too have a Wahhabi problem. 0.98

01:28:34.000 They have a Sunni radical Islamist problem themselves.

01:28:39.000 Within the Caucasus and the North Caucasus area, the Russians are very fearful that these Sunnis are going to be creating havoc come the time of the February 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi. 1.00

01:28:51.000 And this is where Bandar came in.

01:28:53.000 He actually said, Mr. Putin, if you change your policies toward Syria and Iran, I can assure you, you will not be attacked during the Olympics.

01:29:04.000 And I saw that in the Russian news and Bandar didn't deny it.

01:29:07.000 Nope.

01:29:08.000 I mean, why is Saudi Arabia so arrogant to threaten a nuclear superpower? 0.99

01:29:12.000 Yes.

01:29:13.000 Well, the fact that Bandar has this capability, this outreach, I mean, he does want to become king of Saudi Arabia when King Abdullah dies.

01:29:24.000 But this is his power base.

01:29:26.000 This is his... He wants to be able to show that he is able to project this kind of capability and this power.

01:29:31.000 That's why he's basically taken a much more independent line from the United States.

01:29:35.000 And we see that now in terms of... Yeah, he sounds like Napoleon.

01:29:38.000 Intriguing.

01:29:38.000 Michael Maloof's our guest.

01:29:39.000 Do five more minutes with us.

01:29:40.000 I want you to be able to finish up and then talk about your book.

01:29:42.000 And I want to ask you about solutions.

01:29:44.000 How do we get out of this?

01:29:45.000 On the other side with Michael Maloof.

01:29:47.000 Man, this is intriguing.

01:29:48.000 This guy really knows his geopolitics, folks, because I study it.

01:29:52.000 Constantly, and I'm learning something right now, so that says something.

01:29:55.000 We'll be right back with a final little bit with Michael Maloof, then your phone calls.

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01:34:18.000 The republic will rise again if we rediscover American ideals.

01:34:28.000 But if we continue down this road, it is bad.

01:34:30.000 You know, as much as I don't like the American empire...

01:34:35.000 Then I realized that the American Empire in its death throes is like trying to start World War III while undermining the military with all the weird socialist anti-male stuff that goes on.

01:34:48.000 There's always been gay people in the military, folks. 0.73

01:34:51.000 They don't want anybody that's obsessed with sexual stuff running around stirring up trouble. 0.80

01:34:56.000 The military fires more people over officers with women under them. 0.87

01:35:01.000 They're trying to do a mission.

01:35:03.000 You don't want guys with all the women under them. 1.00

01:35:05.000 I run an operation with women that work here. 1.00

01:35:06.000 I don't need a bunch of stuff going on here with people.

01:35:09.000 I go, don't fraternize with people here, even though it's tempting.

01:35:13.000 And now it's like you're going to be with men?

01:35:17.000 That are like coming after you?

01:35:18.000 I mean, it's crazy.

01:35:19.000 That's why you don't put women in those combat units. 1.00

01:35:22.000 But I'm ranting, and I'll do that after he leaves.

01:35:25.000 Michael Maloof, best-selling author, is with us, former top Pentagon analyst, and the Office of the Secretary of Defense, World Net Daily, senior writer.

01:35:35.000 I asked you during the break the question, I'll say it for the audience right now.

01:35:38.000 Give me the best answer you can get because I've not seen anybody.

01:35:40.000 I know some of these generals are public.

01:35:42.000 Some haven't been so public.

01:35:43.000 You've got quite a list you're interviewing.

01:35:45.000 So you're in there because they trust you.

01:35:48.000 My intel from some of these very people, but I won't say it on air, is that Obama is looking to use DHS as a fifth arm to take over.

01:35:57.000 Marine Corps colonels gone public and others have, but that's about as high as they've gone public.

01:36:02.000 Navy SEALs on record have gone public.

01:36:04.000 Obama may actually think about staging some crisis or letting Al Qaeda attack us and claiming the Tea Parties with him, even though that makes no sense.

01:36:12.000 The State Department has been putting stuff out like that, so has West Point.

01:36:17.000 And trying to go after the American people, they're trying to take the guns, and even though they can't succeed in the mission, the experience, the voyage, is the destination, that they want to start some civil war. 0.69

01:36:33.000 In America, and that's what I'm getting from high-level military sources, have they said anything on or off record to you like that?

01:36:40.000 A. And B. What are they saying the destination is?

01:36:45.000 What is Obama and his controllers, what are they trying to do?

01:36:48.000 Well, I think he's trying to change the fundamental approach with his very liberal approach toward trying to make the military a social experiment.

01:37:00.000 He's never been a fan of the military anyway.

01:37:03.000 I mean, he was a community organizer and then he becomes president.

01:37:07.000 I don't mean to interrupt, sir, but what about his advisors?

01:37:16.000 If you wanted to kill the military, this is what you do.

01:37:19.000 Why isn't the establishment stopping him?

01:37:22.000 Well, the establishment is scared to death because they're going to be out.

01:37:25.000 I mean, this is why one of my stories had to do with Valerie Jarrett.

01:37:30.000 She's what we call the Night Stalker, and she's one who guides and counsels him.

01:37:37.000 She's very leftist-leaning and has roots that go back to communist socialist practices at the local level in Chicago many, many years before.

01:37:49.000 And now they've just brought it up to the national level, and this is part of a plan of theirs.

01:37:55.000 And the fact that DHS is receiving so much ammunition and getting troop carriers and things like this, I've had some folks suggest to me that there is a possibility that he is planning something to not only emasculate the military, but actually create his own strong civilian force.

01:38:16.000 The question is why.

01:38:20.000 Congress should have been pursuing this as to why this is happening.

01:38:24.000 They've never gotten a straight answer.

01:38:25.000 And yet Congress is still overlooking this possibility, this problem of why DHS is arming the way it is.

01:38:34.000 DHS is part of the problem.

01:38:35.000 They've got other issues that they've got to deal with.

01:38:37.000 And not the least of which is dealing with natural catastrophes and yet they want another fighting.

01:38:43.000 Well that's another issue.

01:38:44.000 They've pivoted, talking about pivoting from the Middle East to Asia, they have pivoted like 95% from Al-Qaeda.

01:38:51.000 I get the manuals the police send them to me, we break them on the national news all the time.

01:38:55.000 95% pivot.

01:38:56.000 I mean it'll be like a hundred page training manual.

01:39:01.000 I don't publish a lot of these because it could be actually damaging the real national security, but we show the cover sheets and stuff.

01:39:07.000 95% of it will be about Tea Party gun owners, veterans, Christians, and then like one page on Al-Qaeda.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, they see the threat more from within than from without.

01:39:17.000 And I think that this is what we're seeing.

01:39:19.000 It's pretty much what happened during the Clinton years.

01:39:22.000 He never wanted to talk about, after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, that that was actually a terrorist act.

01:39:30.000 It was a criminal act by some disgruntled people.

01:39:33.000 There was a failure to want to recognize that you do have an external threat, but it's more internal with your lone wolves and what he would refer to as your right-wing militant groups.

01:39:47.000 And that's where I think the DHS is looking more as to where the threat is coming from within.

01:39:52.000 Sure.

01:39:53.000 Well, I mean, here's my issue, sir.

01:39:54.000 And you're a smart guy.

01:39:55.000 I have had a lot of military in my family.

01:39:58.000 I've literally read probably 500 books on military history.

01:40:03.000 Study it.

01:40:04.000 I know I don't know the tip of the iceberg.

01:40:06.000 I look at Valerie Jarrett. 0.98

01:40:08.000 I've read her papers.

01:40:09.000 I've seen her give speeches. 1.00

01:40:10.000 She's a low-grade moron. 1.00

01:40:11.000 The woman looks mentally ill. 1.00

01:40:13.000 And I'm sorry. 0.99

01:40:14.000 Our country... 0.94

01:40:15.000 And I'm not usually the guy that goes with the theory of incompetence, but it's even more frightening that the elite running this country are a bunch of incompetent, dumb commies, and I'll use that low pejorative, it's what they are, who literally are social engineering, and that's ten times more scary than an in-control elite, because at least an in-control elite doesn't want to blow the planet up. 0.98

01:40:37.000 These mental patients, look what they've done with Obamacare. 0.99

01:40:41.000 This is a disaster.

01:40:42.000 I mean, I think Obama needs to be impeached.

01:40:45.000 I know WorldNetDaily's leading a big group up to try to get that done, coming up in a few weeks.

01:40:50.000 I mean, what do... Here's my final question.

01:40:52.000 What do we do?

01:40:53.000 Well, I mean, A, do you agree with me that these are very unstable weirdos?

01:40:57.000 And then B, what are the generals and others saying that we can do, any ideas, to try to stop this?

01:41:06.000 Well, first of all, yes, I would agree with you that these are unstable weirdos.

01:41:10.000 They have their own agenda.

01:41:12.000 They're in the position of power right now.

01:41:14.000 The argument is, well, you voted for them, but we've got to live with it.

01:41:18.000 And I've had a lot of people in comments on some of my stories saying, well, Maybe we need to be taking back the government, and there's talk like that now that's coming through.

01:41:32.000 People are very alarmed, but there's nothing that you can do about it short of taking up arms, it seems, because we live under a nation of laws.

01:41:42.000 And uh... we voted for the man and uh... or as many many people voted for me and I know I didn't but uh... but then we have to live with it until the next election.

01:41:50.000 Well I was about to say though, I mean take the military strategy, we say they're a bunch of buffoons but they've got, they're ready, they want a civil war, they want to push us, that's what the Navy SEALs on and off record including a naval officer told me uh... who's commanded large groups of SEALs, I'll just leave it at that and then we've had the SEALs on the show, that that's their analysis.

01:42:09.000 The Navy The Navy Special Warfare people have looked at this and they say it's exactly what you were just alluding to.

01:42:15.000 They want to push us into this, but then we have no choice, but maybe we do.

01:42:19.000 So let me ask you as a smart guy who's talked to all these other folks, what do we do?

01:42:23.000 We don't want a civil war with poor cops and military that are just following orders, but we can't go under commie control.

01:42:29.000 What do we do?

01:42:30.000 I think we have to continue publicly bringing this out.

01:42:34.000 I think people who are in the system and people who have just come out, they need to speak out.

01:42:39.000 Of course, they're still concerned, even in retirement, if they want to get contractor jobs and what have you.

01:42:46.000 But we are at a point where things could really turn south on us.

01:42:53.000 And we need to be bringing this out more and more and just keep hammering it and hammering it to really make this resonate in the people's consciousness.

01:43:01.000 And I would agree with congressman west that we we need a congressional oversight and just what is really going on not that anything will ever come up but but the mere fact that it's being brought out publicly i think is going to be necessary to keep to keep i agree and for those that don't know you know that's why you have the congress commission officers to begin with because you just can't have a napoleon or a hitler run all the military themselves

01:43:26.000 That's always the bane of any free civilization is that Julius Caesar comes along, and I think, I really think these people running things, well they talk about it, they talk about it, they want him to be a dictator, want him to declare martial law.

01:43:38.000 You know, Sheila Jackson Lee.

01:43:40.000 So I think, I mean, we need to listen to what these people are saying.

01:43:43.000 Absolutely.

01:43:44.000 And deal with it.

01:43:45.000 In closing, and I appreciate your time, sir, tell us about your new book, A Nation Forsaken.

01:43:51.000 Boy, that says it all.

01:43:52.000 Yes, well, that was the whole idea.

01:43:54.000 The federal government has let us down in trying to protect this country against an electromagnetic pulse, either from natural, from the sun, or from man-made, which can be some little small country with a nuclear weapon and a means of delivery system that can just explode it over at a high altitude and knock out our national grid.

01:44:15.000 And all of the other critical, life-sustaining critical infrastructures which depend upon that grid, they can do it with one blast.

01:44:24.000 And we're not ready for it, and we have not equipped our, and we have not hardened our facilities, whether it's for telecommunications or pipelines.

01:44:38.000 Or even our emergency responders.

01:44:41.000 They would also be affected.

01:44:43.000 Our hospitals would be affected.

01:44:44.000 We're totally dependent.

01:44:46.000 I mean, look at the depression.

01:44:47.000 Most Americans were self-sufficient and it was devastating.

01:44:50.000 If we have something like this now, all the experts I talk to, I haven't read your book yet, I want to read it, but I mean, they say this is something we don't come back from, at least not in the way we have been.

01:45:01.000 That's right.

01:45:02.000 Well, Jim Woolsey and Newt Gingrich have recently formed an EMP coalition, and they're talking about this now.

01:45:10.000 They're trying to get a national effort underway to get Congress to pass what's called the SHIELD Act.

01:45:15.000 I don't think it's going to pass.

01:45:17.000 It might pass in the House, but certainly not in the Senate.

01:45:19.000 And also working more with the states to get the legislators at the state level to direct their public utilities to start hardening these facilities.

01:45:30.000 We can mitigate this problem with just $2 billion across nationwide if we put our minds to it.

01:45:36.000 $2 billion that they'll spend instead to put in transgender bathrooms. 0.98

01:45:41.000 I mean, it's just unbelievable.

01:45:42.000 Well, listen, I really appreciate you joining us, Mr. Malouf, and your analysis, and unfortunately I concur with all of it, and I just hope we can make it out of this.

01:45:50.000 I mean, it's good news that Obamacare is finally blowing up so bad that I think I think this could be the end of Obama being able to get stuff done.

01:45:59.000 The problem is, he just signs executive orders like shutting down our power plant, speaking of power, and does it.

01:46:04.000 So let me ask you this, are we at the most dangerous point right now, then, because Obama's sinking like a rock, but that's when he might try something.

01:46:12.000 And what could that be to get his agenda back on track?

01:46:16.000 Well, yeah, it'll be the tail wagging the dog episode.

01:46:18.000 You know, people talk about, well, can he be impeached for this?

01:46:23.000 He lied to the American people.

01:46:24.000 Well, he also lied to Congress, and that should be a misdemeanor right there.

01:46:27.000 He lied to Congress about Obamacare, in which people would not be able to lose their doctors or their health care, and on the basis of that, they went ahead and passed that legislation without any Republican support, certainly, but it did go through the Congress, and as a consequence, they now are finding that it's just not true.

01:46:54.000 And so that, to me, is something maybe the legal types need to look at. 1.00

01:46:58.000 Did he, in lying to the Congress the way he did, did he, to get that legislation passed, has he, in fact, committed a misdemeanor, which is, under the Constitution, impeachable?

01:47:10.000 It certainly is.

01:47:12.000 We've got to send a message that we're not going to put up with this type of just rampant craziness and control freak behavior.

01:47:19.000 Thank you so much for your time.

01:47:20.000 Well, thanks for having me.

01:47:21.000 Wow, that was a scary interview.

01:47:22.000 But you know, folks, we're not trying to scare you.

01:47:25.000 I'm the type of guy that if it's flooding and I need to go to higher ground, then I go to higher ground.

01:47:34.000 It's not that I'm living in fear.

01:47:35.000 I woke up three weeks ago.

01:47:38.000 Open my back door, looking onto the property.

01:47:41.000 I have a small piece of property, there's a ranch behind me.

01:47:44.000 And there was a, no exaggeration, I was thinking 500 foot wide, no it was, I actually kind of guesstimated, measured it, about a...

01:47:56.000 Thousand feet past my property, on over the fence line, giant Barton Creek was like a torrent of white rapids blasting out of a fire hose.

01:48:08.000 And it was coming up to our property line, up to the fence, all the way up to the pillars of our house, because our house is built on stilts, because it's in an area that floods every 50 years.

01:48:21.000 And it kept rising and rising.

01:48:23.000 And it wasn't that I was living in fear that I went out and looked out the window and saw the water rising.

01:48:30.000 And I walked in and I said, oh honey, it's not raining anymore.

01:48:32.000 It's been raining for 12 hours straight.

01:48:34.000 We're up near the headwaters.

01:48:35.000 It should be okay.

01:48:36.000 I don't think it's going to be an issue.

01:48:39.000 And obviously my children and wife are freaked out.

01:48:42.000 I'm no hydrologist, but I can tell it's not raining anymore.

01:48:44.000 We're up near the headwaters.

01:48:45.000 It should be okay.

01:48:46.000 But I said, if it keeps raining, It might knock out our porch and stuff, so we might have to leave.

01:48:52.000 But I said, and I went and looked at the weather report, it wasn't going to keep raining, so it was alright.

01:48:56.000 And then, within a few hours, it went back down to like 50 feet across, so.

01:49:02.000 I was knocking trees over, you name it.

01:49:03.000 It was like a major river blasting by my house from just a side creek that goes into Barton Creek.

01:49:10.000 The reason I tell that analogy now is, or that story, As an analogy of what we're currently under.

01:49:17.000 I mean, I'm just watching a giant rising waters of tyranny.

01:49:21.000 And I'm sitting here going, um, we need to say no to this. 0.96

01:49:27.000 I'm getting called an extremist and a radical and I want to kill cops and I want to kill people and I don't want to kill anybody. 0.96

01:49:34.000 I just want to be a nice guy. 0.97

01:49:36.000 I just want to live in a free country.

01:49:39.000 Our government sold us out to China and others.

01:49:42.000 Undermining us at the same time, attacking anything good. 0.64

01:49:45.000 I mean, these people are just deviants. 0.72

01:49:47.000 I've now come to the realization they are deviants. 1.00

01:49:50.000 Deviant, not like they want to go have sex with somebody. 0.93

01:49:53.000 I've learned that's not even really what you call deviance.

01:49:55.000 That's like the distractionary deviance.

01:49:57.000 It's the deviance of like screwing things up.

01:50:00.000 Messing with things, and doing nasty things, and doing bad things.

01:50:05.000 We all need to be like Dylan Rattigan six months ago that got fired.

01:50:08.000 He's going, this is all corrupt, we're in trouble.

01:50:10.000 You flipped out because he's there around all the lies you're supposed to flip out.

01:50:14.000 You're supposed to say, I'm not going to be part of this anymore!

01:50:17.000 Like Howard Beale and Network.

01:50:21.000 And that's all I've done.

01:50:22.000 I mean, I win.

01:50:24.000 Because military told me about it.

01:50:26.000 And I saw Marines training to take our guns in America, and I was a mainline Libertarian Republican then, and I was like, oh my gosh.

01:50:36.000 And I found out about the whole plan.

01:50:37.000 They've been trying this forever.

01:50:39.000 They already run everything.

01:50:42.000 They don't need to be doing all this.

01:50:43.000 They literally want to go after families.

01:50:47.000 They literally want our guns.

01:50:48.000 They want to break us.

01:50:49.000 They want to dominate us.

01:50:51.000 They already run everything, folks.

01:50:53.000 They want to screw us over.

01:50:56.000 They hate us. 0.97

01:50:58.000 It's like racism against Native Americans when they've already been defeated. 1.00

01:51:02.000 Hunting everyone down and killing them. 0.97

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01:54:09.000 In 1814, we took a little trip along with Colonel Jackson on the mighty Mississippi.

01:54:21.000 In 1814, we took a little trip along with Colonel Jackson down to mighty Mississippi.

01:54:25.000 We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we whooped the bloody British in the town of New Orleans. 1.00

01:54:30.000 We fired our guns and the British kept a coming. 1.00

01:54:33.000 There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.

01:54:36.000 We fired once more and they began to running on down to Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.

01:54:44.000 Just remember, they start a civil war, folks.

01:54:44.000 That means 10,000 troops.

01:54:47.000 Must have been a hundred of them beating on the drum.

01:54:49.000 They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring.

01:54:52.000 We stood beside our cotton bales and didn't say a thing.

01:54:54.000 That means 10,000 troops.

01:54:55.000 We fired our guns and the British kept a-coming. 1.00

01:54:57.000 There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.

01:55:00.000 We fired once more and they began to run in. 0.72

01:55:03.000 Just remember, they start a civil war, folks. 0.99

01:55:06.000 Those of us in leadership will be killed first.

01:55:12.000 And I'm not even worried about that. 0.94

01:55:15.000 I'm worried about beating these guys in the end.

01:55:17.000 There's things bigger than one person's life.

01:55:20.000 There's the children, and there's justice to be served.

01:55:22.000 I don't want this physical war to come.

01:55:26.000 And I'm doing everything I can, and on my knees every day before my Almighty Creator, asking for the guidance.

01:55:38.000 You know, sometimes in God's plan, bad things happen.

01:55:42.000 We're here so that people have a choice in their heart to make about which side they're going to be on in their heart.

01:55:49.000 And that's the most important decision.

01:55:51.000 None of us can do this alone.

01:55:53.000 We don't know what the outcome's going to be short term.

01:55:56.000 But we know that in the end, right always comes out on top.

01:56:00.000 It may take a hundred years.

01:56:02.000 It may take six months.

01:56:03.000 It may take a day.

01:56:06.000 We don't know what's in store for us.

01:56:08.000 There's a lot of twists and turns in this.

01:56:12.000 But everybody can feel the great danger we're all in.

01:56:16.000 We can tell history is already happening and is about to happen.

01:56:20.000 And I feel like every day this could be my last broadcast here.

01:56:26.000 And everybody can tell hearing me on the air that and you could feel it as well.

01:56:32.000 This is history happening right now and you need to decide who your heart's with.

01:56:38.000 It's real simple if you want to break it down to men He certainly wasn't perfect, but if you studied him, he had amazing courage and leadership and providence.

01:56:47.000 Are you with George Washington?

01:56:49.000 Or are you with Barack Obama?

01:56:55.000 Are you with people like Martin Luther King, who wasn't perfect, but had a lot of courage and vision?

01:57:01.000 Or are you with people like Hillary Clinton?

01:57:06.000 You're gonna have to make a decision.

01:57:09.000 You gotta decide, in life, it isn't about how many baubles you got, it isn't how many people know who you are, believe me, I've got that, it means nothing.

01:57:17.000 It matters what you stand for and what you did.

01:57:19.000 It's not about the toys, folks, it's about what you did.

01:57:24.000 It's the Aaron Tippin cheesy song, but it's not cheesy.

01:57:26.000 We say it's cheesy because we feel cheesy when we feel like doing the right thing, like that's bad.

01:57:31.000 No, that's good.

01:57:32.000 You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.

01:57:36.000 You've got to be your own man, not a puppet on the string.

01:57:39.000 Never compromise what's right and uphold your family name.

01:57:43.000 You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.

01:57:47.000 Yeah, we might have had more money, been better off, live in a better house if dad had done more Giving in a little more back and down.

01:57:59.000 But in the final equation, ladies and gentlemen, we have a civilization because people didn't bend over and bow down.

01:58:06.000 That's why the corrupt always try to attack those that are pure of heart to tell us we're impure, to tell us we're frauds, to tell us we're lies.

01:58:16.000 Because they then know that that affects us and we'll give up thinking we're not worthy to fight evil.

01:58:22.000 You understand that?

01:58:24.000 They are willfully evil.

01:58:25.000 Their hearts are evil.

01:58:26.000 That's the difference.

01:58:27.000 We are willfully good.

01:58:29.000 We have goodwill.

01:58:31.000 We have courage.

01:58:32.000 We have honor.

01:58:33.000 We have strength.

01:58:34.000 We have the future.

01:58:36.000 If we take it in our hands, now is the time to choose which side you serve.

01:58:42.000 Now is the time to give your heart to liberty or to tyranny.

01:58:46.000 Overdrive, coming up.

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02:00:01.000 Coast to Coast, direct from Austin.

02:00:04.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

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02:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:31.000 Well, we're into the third hour here today.

02:00:43.000 It's one o'clock Central Standard Time.

02:00:46.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and John McAfee, of course, the most famous antivirus maker out there in the company.

02:00:54.000 Still one of the top companies out there that bears his name.

02:00:57.000 He's an inventor, a journalist, a really interesting fellow.

02:01:01.000 And of course, the website is whoismcoffee.com.

02:01:05.000 And he joins us here.

02:01:06.000 We're going to come back in the next segment and really get into all the things he wants to cover.

02:01:09.000 But he was here about an hour before it came out and he said, yeah, I just talked to I just talked to NBC and they're going to be talking about how the Feds tried to hire him to come try to fix health care.

02:01:20.000 So I guess they are all hands on deck trying to hire all the tech gurus to fix stuff.

02:01:24.000 We're going to talk about that coming up in the next segment.

02:01:27.000 But John, it is great to meet you in person, buddy.

02:01:30.000 Well, it's great to meet you, Alex.

02:01:31.000 I've talked to you on the phone so many times, I felt like I knew you anyway.

02:01:35.000 Well, it's good to have you here.

02:01:36.000 What do you think of Austin so far?

02:01:38.000 Very nice town.

02:01:38.000 I like Austin.

02:01:39.000 It's small, small enough to be enjoyable and not too crowded, and yet large enough to have coffee shops.

02:01:46.000 Well, it used to be a lot smaller, like 100,000 people.

02:01:49.000 Now it's over a million, but it is spread out.

02:01:51.000 Right.

02:01:52.000 I hear you have a water problem.

02:01:53.000 We do.

02:01:54.000 We're running out of water.

02:01:55.000 Well, until it flooded last week.

02:01:57.000 Every decade or so, there's a drought.

02:01:59.000 Next, we're going to have the dams about to break.

02:02:01.000 All right.

02:02:02.000 Well, that's preferable, I think.

02:02:04.000 I think the prettiest places in Austin would be down on, say, the Colorado River.

02:02:10.000 Have you seen that yet?

02:02:11.000 I have.

02:02:11.000 Beautiful.

02:02:12.000 I think that's the river I'm staying on at the Four Seasons.

02:02:16.000 I've got a beautiful view of some river.

02:02:17.000 There were punters out this morning.

02:02:21.000 What do you want to get into?

02:02:22.000 I mean, obviously, we'll talk about Obamacare.

02:02:23.000 That's the big breaking news.

02:02:25.000 We'll get an update on Brazil, NSA.

02:02:27.000 You say there's more than just the NSA spying on us.

02:02:30.000 I mean, if the NSA is spying on us, and they're just one covert branch of the government, then everybody has to be.

02:02:30.000 Well, obviously.

02:02:36.000 It would be ridiculous to have the NSA spying on the U.S.

02:02:40.000 population, but the CIA and the FBI and other covert arms not doing it, or the military.

02:02:45.000 So you know for a fact that we're being spied on by everyone.

02:02:48.000 You know, Edward Snowden just blew the whistle on one aspect, and so we're focused on that.

02:02:53.000 And the other branches are probably going, oh, please don't let them focus on us.

02:02:58.000 Well, that's right.

02:02:59.000 I mean, there's 15 big intelligence agencies, but it gets worse than that.

02:03:03.000 Because it came out the DEA is hooked into the NSA, tracking everybody.

02:03:08.000 I mean, so they're listening to you talk about a pot plant you've got growing in your backyard.

02:03:12.000 Well, I don't smoke pot, but... No, no, but I'm at the public out there, sure.

02:03:15.000 Of course, right.

02:03:16.000 So, all the agencies cooperate to a certain extent.

02:03:19.000 I mean, they're jealous of each other and they keep guarded secrets, but you can be guaranteed that something of interest to one agency may be of interest to another.

02:03:26.000 And so, there's nothing that we do that isn't known now.

02:03:30.000 I mean, that has to be the case.

02:03:33.000 I also want to talk about your product when it comes out, because you're already one of the most famous computer type inventors out there.

02:03:39.000 I tell you, this will be revolutionary if it's not just an off-site proxy you go through, because we know they tap the backbone before it even gets there.

02:03:46.000 They've bragged about that.

02:03:47.000 If it's a device in front of your computer, I don't know why I didn't think of that.

02:03:50.000 I guess I'm not John McAfee.

02:03:52.000 Well, you know, it's a very simple concept.

02:03:54.000 People think that it's going to be difficult to implement, but it's not.

02:03:57.000 It's a very simple idea.

02:03:58.000 It's just you step outside the box and say, OK, everyone's trying to fix the Internet.

02:04:03.000 It's too big.

02:04:04.000 It's been here too long.

02:04:05.000 There are too many pieces.

02:04:07.000 I said, well, it can't be fixed.

02:04:09.000 Why don't we just create another Internet, sort of a sub part of the real Internet, and as it grows, perhaps that will be the new Internet.

02:04:16.000 But it's very simple.

02:04:17.000 The concept rests on the principle that if they do not know, if no one knows, even yourself, the ID of the person you're sending it to or receiving information from, then how can anybody watch that information?

02:04:29.000 And if the information itself is encrypted, then even if it is intercepted, it means nothing.

02:04:34.000 And my encryption technique has not been vetted by the NSA or they were not involved in the development of it.

02:04:40.000 So, like every other technique is, so they can't look at it, nor can any other agency.

02:04:46.000 Well, John McAfee's our guest in studio.

02:04:48.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

02:04:50.000 And when we come back, we're going to dive into an in-depth interview.

02:04:53.000 I'm going to ask him about human potential, where he thinks things are going, transhumanism, Ray Kurzweil.

02:04:58.000 I've got a bunch of my questions.

02:04:59.000 We're going to cover his points first, because I asked him before we went live, what do you want to cover?

02:05:03.000 I've got a list of four things.

02:05:05.000 It's all coming up live, uncensored, straight ahead.

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02:08:33.000 It's Alex Jones.

02:08:35.000 Well, John Mack is our guest.

02:08:43.000 He's come to Austin to visit with us, and this morning he did an interview With CNBC, and it's GOP asked for tech founder, ex-fugitive McAfee, to diagnose Obamacare.

02:08:55.000 And that fits in with the Politico article, tech surge to repair Obamacare websites.

02:09:00.000 They're saying it's like the Manhattan Project, as they panic to try to fix it.

02:09:05.000 Now, of course, John McAfee is an extremely famous Computer programmer, engineer, worked for all sorts of big corporations, NASA, you name it.

02:09:15.000 He developed McAfee, which is still the dominant antivirus system out there.

02:09:20.000 He's also been better known lately for escaping out of the kleptocratic area of beliefs and exposing connections to the communist Chinese, Muslim terrorists, you name it, Ryerson plots.

02:09:35.000 And when he broke this on our show, I said, man, that is hard to believe.

02:09:39.000 And but I still had him on and said it may be true, but then it all later came out in the news months and months later.

02:09:47.000 So he is definitely a blessed, charmed man to have been able to make it out of there into Guatemala and then back to the good old US of A. And we're going to talk about his view on the world and so many issues, the NSA, you name it.

02:10:02.000 But first, sir, let's get into Obamacare.

02:10:06.000 Wow, so you've been contacted by the government to try to come in and fix it.

02:10:09.000 What did you tell them and why did you refuse?

02:10:12.000 I was contacted by the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

02:10:16.000 They're the ones that oversee the Obamacare package.

02:10:20.000 And if I would come out and basically oversee some of the changes and give them input on what needed to be done.

02:10:29.000 I said, sure.

02:10:30.000 Then they added, but we can't pay your expenses or anything.

02:10:33.000 The government is shut down.

02:10:34.000 I'm thinking, well, you pay $600 million to a completely inoperable agency to build this system.

02:10:42.000 I said, OK, well, I'll pay my own way.

02:10:46.000 And they said, okay.

02:10:47.000 And then they came back and said, well, we can't even get the committee members all together because, again, the chaos of the shutdown.

02:10:55.000 Can we do it on the phone?

02:10:56.000 And at that point I go, okay, I'm out of here.

02:10:59.000 They expect me to give them advice on a system that requires showing them charts and graphs and how this thing is put together and what's wrong with it.

02:11:06.000 And they want to do it over the phone.

02:11:08.000 They're not serious.

02:11:09.000 They just want to say, we contacted McAfee, he gave us some advice and we're going to implement it.

02:11:14.000 Which is utter nonsense, they're not.

02:11:15.000 My advice would be, throw it away and start over.

02:11:19.000 You cannot fix the system that's there, it is impossible.

02:11:22.000 The way it is architected, any good programmer will tell you, it's just not going to work.

02:11:27.000 And they can pour money into it, another $50 million, another $100 million, it will never work the way that it is.

02:11:33.000 It needs to be redone.

02:11:35.000 A friend of mine, Mike Adams, who's a successful computer programmer, he said the same thing two and a half weeks ago.

02:11:40.000 He said several things.

02:11:41.000 He said, it looks like basically chimpanzees were in there tied up to keyboards writing this.

02:11:47.000 It's gibberish.

02:11:48.000 It's not even bad code.

02:11:49.000 That came out today.

02:11:50.000 Yes.

02:11:51.000 And he said that the government always throws more money at something that doesn't work when you need to scrap it.

02:11:57.000 But he said that's what all the top programmers are saying.

02:11:59.000 That is what you, John McAfee, as a well-known top programmer, are saying.

02:12:03.000 But clearly the Commerce Committee knows that too, so what do you think the real reason is?

02:12:08.000 Mike and others are saying, now it's actually coming out, that it's really an NSA front, and they're just getting data for who doesn't have insurance to fine them, and it's totally cold-blooded.

02:12:18.000 Might be.

02:12:19.000 Might be.

02:12:19.000 Because it doesn't seem like they were serious in actually implementing a Medicare system.

02:12:24.000 And you're right.

02:12:25.000 The code.

02:12:26.000 After the rollout, there were programmers that went on bulletin boards asking for help on programs that they had been working on for this system.

02:12:35.000 All of them Indian. 0.99

02:12:36.000 CGI has over 10,000 programmers in the country of India.

02:12:40.000 And they're doing very basic programming in a language that only runs on the front end, that is, your computer.

02:12:46.000 So when you log on to Obamacare, the programs are downloaded to your computer and run, and then ship the data back.

02:12:52.000 It's a very cheap and easy way of doing it.

02:12:54.000 And that's fine if you have 10 or 20 users, but if you have millions, it just isn't going to work.

02:12:59.000 And that's why the architecture can't support it.

02:13:01.000 But to have a company whose employees are asking for help from the general public on fixing their problems is absurd.

02:13:10.000 If you go through the code, there are fundamental misspellings in there.

02:13:14.000 You know, this shouldn't be happening.

02:13:15.000 This should be a professional company.

02:13:17.000 And that company CGI that worked for the government of Canada about seven years ago was fired because of incompetence and not delivering what they had wanted.

02:13:28.000 So why did we choose a Canadian company when there are plenty of American companies that are very technically competent in this area?

02:13:34.000 I have no idea.

02:13:36.000 Well that's another issue.

02:13:37.000 Consumer Reports is now saying don't go to the website because you can basically have your identity stolen on it.

02:13:42.000 Absolutely.

02:13:43.000 Absolutely.

02:13:44.000 And it's not just the website.

02:13:45.000 You don't even know if it's a legitimate website because there are so many examiners that can have their own websites.

02:13:53.000 And, uh, sorry, that's my telephone here.

02:13:55.000 Hey, it kind of sounds cool.

02:13:56.000 It's like Star Trek-y. 0.98

02:13:56.000 Let me turn this sucker off. 0.98

02:13:57.000 So, there's, there are so many, um, uh, examiner sites that anybody can put together. 0.97

02:14:04.000 And the, um, uh, the sites can be made by hackers.

02:14:08.000 They can steal your identity.

02:14:09.000 They can ask for your social security number.

02:14:12.000 And the following day, your bank account's going to be empty.

02:14:14.000 And, and this is going to cost consumers, in terms of lost income and identity theft, more than the entire Obamacare package costs to implement.

02:14:25.000 Unbelievable, and Obama came out today, I forget the exact quote, let me look at DrugsReport.com and find it.

02:14:30.000 He came out and called it a good deal and that it's exceeding expectations.

02:14:36.000 Well, I mean, I don't know whose expectations those would be.

02:14:39.000 Does that win the B.S.

02:14:40.000 award of all time?

02:14:41.000 Well, I think so, or unless your expectations are dramatically lower than any sane person would want to have.

02:14:47.000 So, really, that makes no sense.

02:14:49.000 What would the expectations be if, in fact, when it rolled out, you couldn't log on, you couldn't get support, there was no security, and it was crashing every three minutes?

02:14:59.000 So what expectations could you possibly have that it met?

02:15:03.000 I have no clue. 1.00

02:15:04.000 That is definitely bullshit. 1.00

02:15:07.000 And again, John McAfee is our guest in studio. 1.00

02:15:10.000 Going back here then to understand this.

02:15:14.000 The Republican committee chair calls you up and says help us fix it and they want you to just tell them over the phone how to fix something that's like many times more complex than landing probably the Mars rover on the moon.

02:15:26.000 Something this complex with all these different hundreds of millions people that are supposed to use it with all these interfaces and all these exchanges and nobody's ever made something like this work before from what I've been told.

02:15:36.000 And then they want you over the phone to tell them how to do it.

02:15:36.000 Right.

02:15:39.000 Right.

02:15:39.000 What did you say to them?

02:15:40.000 Well, first of all, it wasn't the committee chairman, it was the lawyer for the committee, Sean Hayes, who contacted me and he was very flattering.

02:15:48.000 He said, you know, I'm sure this won't be a heavy lift for you with the managerial expertise and all of this.

02:15:53.000 I said, well, okay.

02:15:54.000 And then he said, but I can't pay you expenses.

02:15:56.000 I go, well, okay.

02:15:57.000 I mean, I'm a good American.

02:15:58.000 You need help, I'll help.

02:16:00.000 Then when it got down to, you know, we can't get the committee members all together, can you do this over the phone, I realized that they're not even serious.

02:16:07.000 I never even responded.

02:16:08.000 This was an email, this last one.

02:16:10.000 They wanted you as a PR name.

02:16:11.000 As a PR name.

02:16:12.000 Say we contacted John McAfee and he's given us great advice and don't worry, everything's going to be fine.

02:16:17.000 But it's not.

02:16:18.000 And so I don't want to be involved.

02:16:19.000 Did you give him the advice you gave our listeners?

02:16:21.000 Scrap it?

02:16:22.000 Well, they know that.

02:16:23.000 I've been saying that in the press for a week now.

02:16:26.000 So yeah, they have to scrap it.

02:16:27.000 And they're not going to listen to that.

02:16:28.000 Or at least scrap the front end.

02:16:30.000 Well, how do you have a website based on a law?

02:16:34.000 It's got to follow this cockamamie law.

02:16:36.000 Well, that's the other problem here.

02:16:38.000 Technology within the government.

02:16:40.000 There are 6,000 pages of regulations for how you develop technological programs.

02:16:46.000 And it takes years to write those regulations.

02:16:49.000 Technology is an area where every year you throw yourself on the way because it's out of date and you get a new one with new features.

02:16:55.000 Technology is advancing rapidly.

02:16:58.000 The regulations are years old.

02:17:00.000 How on earth can you develop a high-tech program using regulations that take three years to write?

02:17:05.000 That's the fundamental problem.

02:17:07.000 It has to be simplified.

02:17:08.000 Throw the regulations out.

02:17:09.000 Trust the people that you're contracting with.

02:17:12.000 Get American companies to produce the thing.

02:17:15.000 And let's get real here.

02:17:18.000 Well, there are laws that most of our tech that's government-funded should come from the U.S., but they religiously ignore it because of globalism.

02:17:25.000 They want to de-industrialize this country so they can pick the winners and losers. 0.60

02:17:30.000 Absolutely.

02:17:31.000 But given that, then you can't complain when your systems don't work.

02:17:35.000 You can't complain when... and I'm not putting down Indians, by the way, or India.

02:17:39.000 They are very intelligent people and great programmers.

02:17:41.000 But CGI takes them and puts them through a three-month training class.

02:17:45.000 Three months!

02:17:46.000 And expects them to now produce miracle code.

02:17:48.000 It doesn't work that way.

02:17:49.000 And then connect it with all the other code.

02:17:51.000 And connect it with all the other code.

02:17:52.000 It's like, sure, that's a very cheap way of doing it.

02:17:54.000 And you're going to get a lot of code.

02:17:56.000 But then how on earth do you fix it?

02:17:57.000 This is the problem.

02:17:58.000 But I've talked to programmers that say, and now it's in the news, that it's just gibberish, a lot of it. 0.99

02:18:02.000 Like people just gave up and delivered crap. 0.95

02:18:05.000 They did, because they were under the gun for time. 0.98

02:18:07.000 It has to be done, it has to be done.

02:18:08.000 I know how that works.

02:18:09.000 You're a programmer and you don't even understand what the problem is and you're trying to fix it.

02:18:13.000 And your boss says, get it done by Friday.

02:18:15.000 Well, you get it done by Friday and you hope no one ever runs that program to find out that it doesn't work.

02:18:21.000 That's like homework you do on the school bus.

02:18:23.000 That's it.

02:18:24.000 You're scribbling as fast as you can go.

02:18:24.000 On the way, on the way.

02:18:26.000 I hope the teacher doesn't read this.

02:18:29.000 But unfortunately, we do on these programs.

02:18:31.000 They're going to get found out.

02:18:31.000 And we are.

02:18:33.000 Well, yeah, I mean, it's not like Common Core where they teach the kids 2 plus 2 equals 4.

02:18:37.000 A computer's got to have it right or it won't work.

02:18:40.000 I guess the banksters... 100% right.

02:18:40.000 Absolutely.

02:18:42.000 Exactly.

02:18:43.000 I guess the banksters and the globalists have finally tried to feed their con artist bull into a computer.

02:18:48.000 That's it.

02:18:49.000 And it's not working.

02:18:50.000 It's certainly not working the way this was implemented.

02:18:53.000 So what do you think is going to happen?

02:18:55.000 He's now trying to blame Republicans and people that don't like socialist health care for the website failing.

02:19:00.000 He did that in a speech today.

02:19:01.000 Well, you know, you can blame the manager of the technological program and nothing else.

02:19:05.000 CGI is responsible, period, for delivering a working program.

02:19:10.000 They did not because, really, it was unrealistic given the way that they did it.

02:19:16.000 And they did it in order to make money.

02:19:18.000 I understand that.

02:19:19.000 You've got a certain income.

02:19:20.000 You have $100 million that the government's paying you.

02:19:22.000 If you can get it done for $500,000, you have a 99.5% profit margin.

02:19:27.000 But now CGI is going to get more money to fix it.

02:19:30.000 Which they can't.

02:19:31.000 And they're going to use the same programmers because you can't use new ones to fix an existing program.

02:19:37.000 If they threw it out, grab some really decent programmers.

02:19:39.000 I mean, top-notch programmers.

02:19:42.000 Don't tell them how to fix it.

02:19:44.000 We want it to fail.

02:19:47.000 John McAfee, we're going to break.

02:19:47.000 Okay.

02:19:49.000 Incredible to have this guy in studio with us.

02:19:52.000 We're going to come back and let him continue on that point in the NSA, his device he's coming up with very soon that I hope to sell here, and a lot more.

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02:24:17.000 And you saw the media hype and the demonization of him when he was down in Belize.

02:24:24.000 But we need to do a part two, maybe for the Nightly News with you, where we go back and show how all the stuff you talked about with us earlier this year, or I guess last year, all of it later turned out to come out.

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02:24:36.000 So we'll have an update in the next segment with Mr. McAfee with us.

02:24:40.000 Again, I'm Alex Jones, if you just tuned in.

02:24:42.000 But continuing with healthcare.gov, I mean, I understand as a top programmer, You know, reportedly genius level by the media and all the stuff you've invented over the years, that you look at this and you say, it could be fixed. 0.98

02:24:54.000 My issue is, I've talked to other programmers that are very smart as well, they say there's no way government didn't know this was a piece of crap and wasn't going to work.

02:25:03.000 What do you think's really going on here? 0.94

02:25:05.000 Well, I mean, obviously.

02:25:06.000 I mean, any sane person is going to test what they have developed at least one time.

02:25:11.000 And usually you test it for many, many months.

02:25:14.000 And if the government has any interest in this program, then they had to have people monitoring the development.

02:25:19.000 So of course they knew it wasn't going to work.

02:25:21.000 Or they didn't bother to test it at all.

02:25:23.000 This is the bizarre truth of the issue.

02:25:26.000 So, I don't know what's going on.

02:25:28.000 I do know that what happened is unthinkable if it were being managed by a true technological manager.

02:25:36.000 They would not let this happen.

02:25:37.000 You build the program, you design it, you go through an alpha test period for a few months, which is, you know, you have a few people logging in, then a beta test where you simulate Massive amounts of input, and then you fix the problems and you roll it out.

02:25:51.000 Clearly they didn't go through any of that.

02:25:53.000 This is not the normal way of developing software.

02:25:57.000 I don't know what it is, but I've never seen it before.

02:26:02.000 I keep going back over this because it's just the whole thing is so, not Orwellian, more Twilight Zone because Obama's up there saying it's a great deal and exceeding expectations and just bizarreness.

02:26:14.000 It'd be like if my wife came home and I was in bed with seven women and I got up and said, honey, I've never cheated on you, baby.

02:26:20.000 I mean, it's just the level of BS.

02:26:25.000 Well, you know, by the way, that is the standard approach.

02:26:28.000 I mean, if your wife does catch you in bed with a woman, you deny it. 0.99

02:26:31.000 Never ever admit.

02:26:32.000 So I guess it is, like Bill Clinton said, deny, deny, deny.

02:26:36.000 So I guess it is literally, what's the term they use for that in the Pentagon?

02:26:41.000 Gaslighting.

02:26:42.000 That's it.

02:26:43.000 That's it.

02:26:43.000 So, you know, I really don't have a clue.

02:26:46.000 I am not politically connected.

02:26:47.000 I can tell you everything you need to know about computers, software, networking, security, but I don't have a clue.

02:26:55.000 I think that something's wrong and it's not going the way it should.

02:26:57.000 What do you think about the whole NSA thing being exposed?

02:27:01.000 We know that's been going on for a long time, but why now is it getting exposed and where do you think it's going?

02:27:06.000 Well, it's getting exposed because someone, Edward Snowden, said something and showed us.

02:27:11.000 Now he's hiding out in Russia now, unfortunately Russia.

02:27:15.000 However, why are we worrying about the NSA?

02:27:17.000 It's every single covert agency of the government, and there are 15 or 20 of those agencies.

02:27:22.000 And you know for a fact that if one agency is spying on us, that they're all spying on us.

02:27:27.000 This is a fact.

02:27:28.000 And they all share information, so the CIA, the FBI, Army Intelligence, they are all watching us.

02:27:35.000 I know this, I've known this for years. 0.98

02:27:37.000 If I say something, people go, oh, you're paranoid, you're crazy.

02:27:39.000 And it takes someone like Snowden to pop up and show us, and we go, oh my God, the NSA is spying on us.

02:27:45.000 Well, duh!

02:27:45.000 Of course they are.

02:27:46.000 They have been for years.

02:27:49.000 Well, talking about CGI, they do the Pentagon's most complex systems, so they obviously knew this wasn't going to work, so therefore it was done by design to put off Obamacare and only bring in the fine part.

02:28:01.000 I think clearly it's just there to fine people.

02:28:03.000 It's entirely possible.

02:28:04.000 I don't know for a fact, but something is going on that is not sensible.

02:28:10.000 Not to the minds of someone who has been developing systems like this their whole life.

02:28:14.000 So you could be absolutely right.

02:28:15.000 Let's shift gears into your device.

02:28:18.000 I can't wait till this comes out.

02:28:20.000 We were talking during the break about the government won't be your biggest problem.

02:28:23.000 Who will be your biggest problem with your device that blocks the NSA?

02:28:26.000 I think the music industry and the TV industry.

02:28:29.000 They are so paranoid about intellectual property.

02:28:34.000 That is, please don't let anybody make one copy of my music or my video.

02:28:40.000 And yet statistically, I mean if you look at the figures, The music industry and the television industry and the movie industry has never made more money than they are today with all of the piracy that's going on.

02:28:52.000 And also statistics say that people who pirate videos are the most purchasers.

02:28:58.000 They pay them more money for the ones that they do want.

02:29:01.000 So they have no reason to be doing what they're doing.

02:29:04.000 But I guarantee you there's already been comments made that this is a dangerous product and a dangerous idea that they're going to try and block it.

02:29:11.000 I want to talk about this when we come back in the long segment, because it tortures me.

02:29:15.000 I have an old TV, not that old, like five, six years, that has a DVD player on the side that I've run in the garage on the treadmill.

02:29:21.000 It broke.

02:29:23.000 That DVD player.

02:29:24.000 So I went and got another one, plugged it in, and it gave me a message and said, you're not allowed to run another device in this anti-piracy.

02:29:30.000 And these are bought DVDs.

02:29:32.000 Right, I understand.

02:29:33.000 And then I have all this other equipment in here for TV where we're trying to put on a show, and I'll buy the equipment, it's my show!

02:29:39.000 It won't let it run over a television.

02:29:40.000 Right, and I can buy a DVD from Australia and pay for it legitimately and it will not run on my American DVD player because it's a different region.

02:29:48.000 So it's stopping technological development so that they can kleptocratically make more money and instead they're screwing up all the devices like Dr. Stallman talks about.

02:29:57.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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02:34:13.000 Sounds very interesting.

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02:34:21.000 That was certainly fun to openly exercise our right to self-defense and deprogram all these people who think you shouldn't own guns.

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02:36:27.000 So we got cut off by the break.

02:36:29.000 You were getting into your device.

02:36:31.000 I mean, tell the audience as much as you can tell them.

02:36:33.000 You were telling me quite a bit, but I don't know if that was in confidence, about how revolutionary but also simple this is going to be and what it's going to do.

02:36:43.000 The device is basically a hardware device that interfaces with your smartphone.

02:36:48.000 You carry it in your pocket.

02:36:49.000 It has an on-off switch and a little light to show that the battery is running and that's it.

02:36:49.000 It has no screen.

02:36:54.000 And we have an application that runs on your iPhone or your Android phone that when you want to switch from the internet to the secure network, you press a button and then you're now in our network, which is anybody else who has one of these devices within a quarter of a mile, you're communicating.

02:37:11.000 And if you're in a city or a college campus, there may be thousands of those that are close by.

02:37:17.000 It's an information sharing network.

02:37:19.000 It's a file sharing network.

02:37:19.000 So it's like a new internet or a private new internet.

02:37:21.000 And it'll start out small, of course, because everyone won't have these things.

02:37:25.000 But eventually, I mean, you switch from the current internet to the secure internet over and over and over.

02:37:32.000 And to begin with, you might not be able to communicate with someone in India.

02:37:36.000 But after a year, when we get enough of these and the information is relayed, Then it'll be just like the internet.

02:37:41.000 But it'll be able to get on the net as the first reason, but then protect your identity.

02:37:45.000 That's... Absolutely.

02:37:46.000 It protects your identity, and when you're on the secure part of the network, no one knows who you are.

02:37:50.000 All of the data is encrypted, and it's encrypted by a technique that the NSA has not been involved in, so they can't break it, they can't get into it.

02:37:58.000 And neither the sender nor the receiver... Let me guess, does it have to deal with holograms?

02:38:03.000 It does not, no sir.

02:38:04.000 Okay.

02:38:05.000 I was trying to... If it did, I wouldn't tell you, would I?

02:38:09.000 No, no, I was talking to my dad about this, and he said, I bet it's a hologram interface.

02:38:14.000 My dad's smarter than I am in some ways, but go ahead.

02:38:16.000 No, I'm not going to say for the simple reason that we don't want people to know.

02:38:22.000 So it's going to be very secure.

02:38:24.000 So neither the NSA, nor the CIA, nor the FBI, nor Army Intelligence, nor anyone can find out who you're talking to, what you're saying, and what you're exchanging, which is really what we should have that right anyway.

02:38:36.000 Now, you're a trailblazer in your own right, obviously, but other great minds are going to hear this, or they probably already thought of it.

02:38:42.000 Even if they try to stop you selling this here domestically, it's going to be a huge international market, and then other people are going to make clones, or knockoffs, and then other technologies.

02:38:50.000 They're not going to be able to stop this.

02:38:52.000 Well, they may stop me temporarily, of course.

02:38:54.000 They may say, you can't sell this.

02:38:56.000 And I'll say, fine.

02:38:59.000 Your control stops at your boundaries.

02:39:01.000 You have Canada and Mexico in the ocean.

02:39:02.000 I'll sell it everywhere else.

02:39:04.000 It will have to get here eventually.

02:39:06.000 Any technology which is beneficial will eventually get here.

02:39:09.000 We know that.

02:39:10.000 It just may take time.

02:39:11.000 The music industry is going to raise hell and complain.

02:39:15.000 The movie industry is going to complain.

02:39:17.000 You know, intellectual property has been way overplayed by them for the past 10 years.

02:39:23.000 Well, think about it.

02:39:23.000 They're trying to get world treaties that end free speech globally for them.

02:39:27.000 They are encroaching on our rights in the name of their rights. 0.90

02:39:31.000 I'm sick of it.

02:39:32.000 Absolutely.

02:39:33.000 And so they are shutting down operations that are valid, useful things.

02:39:40.000 It's like shutting down telephones.

02:39:42.000 Because criminals are using it to covertly rob banks or whatever.

02:39:47.000 It's insane.

02:39:48.000 We can't protect ourselves to the point that we can't even use technology.

02:39:52.000 Well, folks used to hack with a telephone.

02:39:54.000 I mean, do you ban using telephones?

02:39:56.000 That's right.

02:39:56.000 In fact, the first one to do so was a gentleman named Captain Crunch, who got these little whistles from the captain, and he learned how to make tones on it for the old telephone so that he could make free long-distance calls.

02:40:06.000 That was the first telephone hacking.

02:40:08.000 Well, we didn't shut down the phones because of that.

02:40:10.000 We didn't.

02:40:11.000 We just arrested him, and that's a sensible thing to do.

02:40:14.000 But now they're wanting us to shut down technologies like file sharing which is very useful for everything.

02:40:20.000 You have files, you've got photographs that you take on vacation that you want to share with your friends.

02:40:24.000 You put it out in the cloud and they can share it.

02:40:26.000 Do you want to stop that because people can put music that they haven't paid for on the net?

02:40:32.000 That's right.

02:40:32.000 You can't have prior restraint.

02:40:34.000 I ran into anti-gun people at our Alamo open carry this Saturday and they said You know, my daughter got shot at Aurora, and I said, I'm sorry for your daughter, but statistically, crimes using guns are down 49% because a good guy's having guns, just department numbers.

02:40:52.000 They didn't even deny that, but they still said, well, it's still gun owner's fault this happened.

02:40:56.000 And I said, if somebody stabs somebody, is it the knife maker's fault?

02:41:01.000 Or if I sell somebody a car, and they drive down the road and kill somebody, this putting the guilt on us when we didn't do it, it's just crazy.

02:41:09.000 It's an authoritarianism!

02:41:11.000 I've owned and carried guns ever since I was 12 when my father took me hunting for the first time.

02:41:11.000 Absolutely.

02:41:17.000 And he taught me how to handle guns properly, and not to point them at people, and how to load them and unload them.

02:41:22.000 And seriously, for the past 10 years, I have never been without a gun, except when I shower.

02:41:28.000 And when I get paranoid sometimes, I don't shower, so my wife complains.

02:41:31.000 And I've never pointed a gun at anyone.

02:41:34.000 Certainly never shot at anybody.

02:41:37.000 But it is to me a deterrent if we all carry guns.

02:41:40.000 I lived in a town called Rodeo, New Mexico.

02:41:42.000 A small town of a couple hundred people.

02:41:44.000 Everybody was armed there.

02:41:46.000 Everybody.

02:41:46.000 I love it.

02:41:47.000 Well, they never had a problem.

02:41:48.000 They never had a robbery in the grocery store.

02:41:51.000 They never had anything.

02:41:52.000 A criminal coming through town that, you know, pulls a gun out at a cafe.

02:41:57.000 All the customers are going to pull a gun.

02:41:59.000 Criminals are on record that they don't go to small towns and rural areas because they know.

02:42:04.000 They know.

02:42:05.000 And so what's wrong with that?

02:42:06.000 And there's some violent crime there.

02:42:07.000 We all carry guns, but I never saw a gun pulled and pointed anywhere.

02:42:10.000 Well, you asked permission if you could, you know, like, hey, I'm bringing a gun.

02:42:13.000 We're like, well, you better.

02:42:14.000 Right, that's what they said.

02:42:15.000 So don't try anything here, they said.

02:42:17.000 We're all armed.

02:42:18.000 Well, no, but I mean, for us it's like having a pencil or a coffee cup.

02:42:21.000 It's a tool.

02:42:22.000 I sleep with mine.

02:42:23.000 Now, I stopped sleeping with it in my hand for obvious reasons, okay?

02:42:27.000 But I sleep... Aw, then it gets all lonely.

02:42:29.000 Yeah, you know what?

02:42:30.000 Nightmares and things like that, it's pretty scary.

02:42:32.000 My co-worker said, no more, it's not going to be in your hand anymore.

02:42:35.000 I said, if I lay it next to me, here on the bed, that's okay.

02:42:41.000 Um, but I'm always with a gun.

02:42:43.000 And why not?

02:42:44.000 I mean, the criminals have guns.

02:42:46.000 Well, off record, you've had a lot of issues, obviously.

02:42:50.000 Of course.

02:42:51.000 And I, you know, I mean, for a month and a half, the Belizean government was actively trying to shoot me.

02:42:55.000 And, um, you know, why shouldn't I carry guns?

02:42:58.000 And why shouldn't I be able to protect myself?

02:42:59.000 Well, why are they allowed to have guns, but we aren't?

02:43:02.000 Well, that's the problem, isn't it?

02:43:03.000 And here's the thing.

02:43:04.000 If you pass a law saying we can't have guns, I promise you, the criminals don't care.

02:43:08.000 They're already breaking the law.

02:43:09.000 Do you think they care if they're carrying an illegal weapon?

02:43:12.000 That's so absurd.

02:43:13.000 So we're not going to take it out of the hands of the people who are going to do damage with guns.

02:43:17.000 We're taking it out of the hands of people who protect themselves from those people who are trying to do damage.

02:43:22.000 So, I don't know.

02:43:23.000 You know, I'm going to have my gun in my hand except when I'm sleeping, or in my pocket.

02:43:27.000 I've got one here now, obviously.

02:43:30.000 And, you know, as long as I can, because it's my right.

02:43:34.000 But I mean, it goes back to rural areas where you had grizzly bears, or the immigrants were fighting with the natives.

02:43:40.000 I mean, it came down to you better have a gun on you or you could get killed.

02:43:43.000 Or you would get killed. 0.96

02:43:45.000 It's a fact of life.

02:43:46.000 I mean, you know, the world is a dangerous place, especially outside of our comfort zone.

02:43:50.000 Well, here's my issue.

02:43:51.000 We're not worried about death threats around here and stuff, because somebody ever tries to come around here with something, I mean, anybody wants to carry a gun in their briefcase, or CHL, you name it, folks are packing around here.

02:44:01.000 Right.

02:44:02.000 And that's just the way it is, and it's peaceful, it's happy, and everybody's friendly.

02:44:05.000 If someone does come in here, I'll stand with you with my gun, all right?

02:44:05.000 Right.

02:44:12.000 You know, I like revolvers myself, just because they're, you know, you know.

02:44:12.000 Ready to go.

02:44:16.000 I do too, and I prefer the hammerless.

02:44:18.000 I didn't even know that's what you had.

02:44:18.000 Oh, really?

02:44:20.000 Well, I've got all kinds of guns.

02:44:21.000 I carry different guns for different occasions.

02:44:23.000 It's loaded.

02:44:24.000 Here, I'll let you... I notice yours is not.

02:44:26.000 There you go.

02:44:27.000 All right.

02:44:28.000 I like a .357 just because in a stressful situation.

02:44:28.000 There you go.

02:44:31.000 It's loaded, I didn't see it.

02:44:32.000 Oh yeah, oh yeah.

02:44:34.000 A .357, you know, in a stressful situation is good.

02:44:36.000 It's got the best penetration for something like this.

02:44:38.000 No question, but that's a little light at carrying speed.

02:44:40.000 Oh, it's beautiful, it's beautiful.

02:44:42.000 So, and the hammerless variety, you know, so many times you pull your gun out of your pocket not to point it at someone just at the end of the day and the hammer gets caught on your pocket.

02:44:48.000 But look at our guns, they're friendly.

02:44:50.000 They're hanging out together right there.

02:44:52.000 We got a document cam shot on that.

02:44:54.000 In fact, we'll put them over here by you, and they can just have some time together.

02:44:59.000 Look at that, that's like powerful, they're like exchanging.

02:45:04.000 I have some .357s too.

02:45:05.000 I tell you what the finest little carry gun is, is the new Ruger, that little micro .380.

02:45:10.000 I know it doesn't carry a bunch of a punch, but you know.

02:45:13.000 One of my friends' wives carries that in her purse. 1.00

02:45:16.000 Yeah, well I carry one in each pocket sometimes.

02:45:18.000 Because they're so light you can't see them, you don't even know you're carrying them.

02:45:21.000 Um, you know, seven rounds, 380, 380's not a bad gun.

02:45:24.000 James Bond used the Beretta 380, remember that?

02:45:27.000 In the first James Bond movie?

02:45:29.000 They tried to give him a different gun.

02:45:30.000 You're like an adventurer, aren't you?

02:45:32.000 I don't know.

02:45:33.000 What made you go down to Belize?

02:45:35.000 I guess adventure.

02:45:36.000 Why not?

02:45:37.000 You know, I think we might live once, just once.

02:45:41.000 And if that's the case, I don't want to miss anything.

02:45:42.000 I don't want to miss anything, Alex.

02:45:46.000 Without getting into your security and things, you're traveling around the U.S.

02:45:50.000 I am.

02:45:50.000 right now?

02:45:51.000 I'm traveling with security.

02:45:52.000 And because of an incident that happened recently, I've beefed it up, and I'm traveling with some very serious security now.

02:45:59.000 I did notice that.

02:46:00.000 Well, that's a good thing.

02:46:01.000 But, I mean, going back, obviously you were a computer programmer, I think worked at NASA in places, going over your bio.

02:46:08.000 I mean, do you have any shadowy background that you think they might be after you for?

02:46:11.000 I mean, not shadowy bad, but secretive stuff.

02:46:16.000 Well, I mean, I had a top-secret security clearance for a while when I worked at NASA.

02:46:20.000 And I did work on some black programs, but nothing that anyone wanted to off me for.

02:46:24.000 I think my biggest concern is Belize.

02:46:26.000 You know, I ran afoul of the Belizean government.

02:46:29.000 And I came back and I stated some things that maybe should not have been stated.

02:46:33.000 That the Prime Minister ordered the death of Arthur Young.

02:46:36.000 That John Salivar was selling passports illegally.

02:46:41.000 And this is the Minister of National Security, he's in charge of the army and the police and of course the Prime Minister is in charge of everything.

02:46:48.000 They're not happy about that and they're afraid that if I provide more evidence the entire government will unravel.

02:46:54.000 So obviously I have to think that maybe in the back of their minds they would they would feel better if I wasn't here.

02:47:02.000 Well I know you talk... Is that paranoia?

02:47:04.000 No I don't think that's That's paranoia.

02:47:05.000 I mean, knowing what goes on in the government of Belize, what it's used for, how famously piratical it is, I don't know about those individuals, but I know that certainly I would be concerned if I had the entire Belizean mafia-style government angry at me.

02:47:20.000 Right, and the other thing is that they have a longer reach than you might imagine.

02:47:25.000 For example, there are American businesses that would love to do business in Belize for a lot of reasons.

02:47:30.000 You can do illegal things there if you pay the right people and your profits can soar.

02:47:36.000 In fact, the Belizean soccer team came to Portland, where I live, in July.

02:47:41.000 That's kind of weird, isn't it?

02:47:41.000 To play soccer.

02:47:42.000 And with them, there was an American businessman who had a private jet, who was flying around John Salvador, and two other people, the head of the press office in Belize and a city councilman named Dean Samuels.

02:47:56.000 And, um, you know, you look at that and you think, well, you know, I don't know, why did they come to my city?

02:48:00.000 Why did the head of national security come to my town way up there, you know?

02:48:03.000 And so I'm thinking, well, I don't know, maybe I should be cautious.

02:48:06.000 And I am cautious.

02:48:07.000 I don't call that paranoia. 1.00

02:48:09.000 You'd be stupid if you weren't concerned. 1.00

02:48:09.000 Well, I don't know. 1.00

02:48:10.000 I would be stupid. 0.98

02:48:11.000 And so as a result, when I go somewhere, people arrive in advance. 0.99

02:48:15.000 They check things out.

02:48:16.000 They look to see if anything unusual is happening.

02:48:19.000 I change venues constantly.

02:48:20.000 I tell them I'm going to be staying at one hotel and check into another.

02:48:23.000 And when I arrive, I arrive with some serious security.

02:48:27.000 So, um... Well, I mean, going back to Belize, you were talking about Muslims in certain countries and riots, and it was nowhere in the press, and then it had to be four months later, exactly what you said about that came out.

02:48:41.000 And you said that's one of the reasons they were after you.

02:48:43.000 I mean, do you now know, have you figured out, out of all the reasons, why you think folks were after you?

02:48:49.000 They're asking because of what I knew.

02:48:50.000 Because, you know, when they raided my compound in Orange Walk in May, shot my dog in front of my eyes, did a half million dollars worth of damage, kept me handcuffed in the sun for 14 hours.

02:49:02.000 By the way, I don't recommend that as something to do for fun, Alex.

02:49:06.000 That does hurt, believe me.

02:49:06.000 No, that hurts!

02:49:08.000 I tried not to whimper the whole day and I didn't.

02:49:11.000 And then left, and then came back and said, you know, are you going to reconsider giving us a donation to the party?

02:49:19.000 And I go, no, I'm not.

02:49:20.000 I went to the press.

02:49:22.000 At that point, I started handing out presents, computers that I had my own software on just to monitor things, okay?

02:49:28.000 I gave them to all the government ministers and their secretaries and their aides, and that's how I found out what was happening.

02:49:35.000 You gave them a Trojan horse.

02:49:37.000 You made them think they'd won.

02:49:38.000 You started giving them goodies.

02:49:39.000 Absolutely.

02:49:40.000 And just like the general public, they just take devices.

02:49:40.000 Absolutely.

02:49:42.000 They take devices.

02:49:43.000 They don't think.

02:49:44.000 They don't think, well, who is this man?

02:49:45.000 Well, I'm John McAfee, for heaven's sake.

02:49:47.000 I invented computer security.

02:49:48.000 You think I can't turn on your microphone on your laptop in your office and watch what you're doing?

02:49:54.000 That's so trivial.

02:49:55.000 Anybody can do it.

02:49:57.000 Maybe, in retrospect, it may have been a mistake.

02:50:00.000 Because then you learned all the secrets.

02:50:02.000 You were like your own private NSA.

02:50:03.000 I learned all the stuff that's going on and it was scary.

02:50:06.000 And then I came back and I made the mistake of actually telling it on the blog.

02:50:09.000 And so, yeah, you know, you would be paranoid, too, if, you know, these people came up to your town and some American, some shady American businessman with a private jet flying them all over America, showing up in your town, is like, whoa!

02:50:23.000 So, you know, maybe the next time I'm on your show, we will discuss this in greater detail.

02:50:27.000 It might make a really nice show.

02:50:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:50:31.000 I tell you.

02:50:32.000 Because an event did actually happen recently that caused me to more than double my security and start asking a bunch of very hard questions.

02:50:42.000 I bet they're not happy they messed with you, though.

02:50:46.000 If they wouldn't have done that to your dog and all that stuff, would everything be fine?

02:50:48.000 They didn't shot my dog.

02:50:49.000 I think we could have fixed it.

02:50:50.000 But you don't shoot my dogs.

02:50:52.000 My dogs are family.

02:50:54.000 You know, I don't know how you feel about animals, but a dog is... Oh, I love dogs.

02:50:59.000 Well, you know, they're a member of the family.

02:51:01.000 They provide protection.

02:51:02.000 I think they're maybe the best members of my family.

02:51:04.000 Well, certainly the most loyal member.

02:51:05.000 Exactly.

02:51:06.000 I promise you, he's never going to turn on you.

02:51:08.000 We'll be right back.

02:51:08.000 Exactly.

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02:54:19.000 Technology is rapidly increasing, to say the least.

02:54:32.000 Some people like Ray Kurzweil believe that there's going to be a singularity.

02:54:34.000 I believe you'll have a singularity in information and news first, or something approximating that, something getting close to it.

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02:55:04.000 I mean, it was real.

02:55:05.000 Sure.

02:55:05.000 But I think at the higher level, they told them to do it to try to get people's confidence to go, we promise we won't lie anymore.

02:55:10.000 But here is Ray Kurzweil, one of the Google execs, saying, meet the Google executive who plans to cheat death.

02:55:17.000 Ray Kurzweil takes 150 vitamins a day so he can hold out long enough for invention of robots that will keep humans alive.

02:55:24.000 Now whether this is real or not, In my film, Endgame, that I made seven years ago, I show all the quotes.

02:55:29.000 They say humans are bad.

02:55:31.000 They're going to establish world government, forcibly reduce world population.

02:55:35.000 They're going to merge with machines and live forever.

02:55:37.000 I didn't say that, as the New York Times said.

02:55:39.000 I was quoting Kurzweil and others.

02:55:41.000 Here he is back in the news today.

02:55:42.000 This is the Daily Mail.

02:55:45.000 What do you think of these things? 0.89

02:55:48.000 Because whether it's feasible down the road or not, these people are maniacs who are anti-human.

02:55:54.000 What is your take on it?

02:55:55.000 Well, you know, in one respect, I admire Kurzweil because he developed some great musical devices.

02:56:05.000 And a copy machine or a bunch of other stuff?

02:56:07.000 I'm not sure about the copy machine.

02:56:08.000 Well, a modern one.

02:56:09.000 He's a scanner.

02:56:10.000 He's a brilliant man.

02:56:11.000 There's no question about it.

02:56:14.000 I don't want to merge with the machine, quite frankly.

02:56:16.000 I would rather become a little more human than I even am.

02:56:19.000 I think we become machines by spending our days watching the television instead of watching the world around us.

02:56:25.000 I agree.

02:56:26.000 And I think that there's so much of modern life which turns us into machines that why bother making a mechanical device to connect with us?

02:56:32.000 We're already halfway machines.

02:56:34.000 I'd like to go the other way.

02:56:35.000 And let's get a little more human, you know, let's have more personal face-to-face communication, and let's get out and shoot, or do what we like to do, or just get some fresh air, jog around the block.

02:56:45.000 How much of that is happening these days?

02:56:47.000 It's less and less and less.

02:56:48.000 And when it does happen, it's structured and it's formalized.

02:56:52.000 So, you know... Yeah, it's called quality time to take your kids out in nature.

02:56:56.000 Well, quality time should be every moment of life, as I understand it.

02:56:59.000 Every single moment.

02:57:00.000 And if you're not having quality time, 24 hours a day, do something else, Alex.

02:57:06.000 I agree.

02:57:07.000 The revolution against tyrants is having fun, having friends, and not being in the cookie-cutter system.

02:57:12.000 That's it.

02:57:13.000 Exactly.

02:57:14.000 You know, getting into real life.

02:57:16.000 And take some risks, because any quality time is risky.

02:57:20.000 It means you've got to get off of your comfortable sofa, out of your safe, secure house, and into a world which is unpredictable and unknown.

02:57:28.000 It's a mystery.

02:57:29.000 Well, isn't that how things were when you were a kid?

02:57:31.000 Wasn't it great to get out and explore the mystery of life, the mystery of the world?

02:57:36.000 Absolutely, going to a friend's house and going out in the woods.

02:57:38.000 You bet.

02:57:39.000 Sneaking on some farmer's ranch.

02:57:42.000 Picking strawberries in your neighbor's backyard at night without them knowing.

02:57:45.000 Whatever.

02:57:46.000 It's an adventure.

02:57:48.000 It's life as it should be.

02:57:50.000 We should all be children again.

02:57:51.000 They're trying to insert us into these bubbles where they bombard us with nothing but their propaganda to keep us from seeing the wider universe.

02:57:59.000 Alright, well that's how they control us, see?

02:58:01.000 If you see the wider universe, you're going to ask questions, aren't you?

02:58:03.000 Like, what the hell are you saying? 0.98

02:58:05.000 You're giving us garbage about Obamacare. 0.99

02:58:07.000 But if all we get is the news, some of us are going to believe it. 0.99

02:58:11.000 You can fool all the people some of the time.

02:58:14.000 But you're talking about singularities?

02:58:16.000 You can't fool all the people all the time.

02:58:19.000 What do you think of a singularity?

02:58:20.000 I mean, do you think that really will come?

02:58:23.000 I think it's happened in many cases.

02:58:25.000 I think this is evidence of it here.

02:58:28.000 We have something which is so obviously broken and improper that the President is saying, well, this is what I expected.

02:58:34.000 It meets expectations.

02:58:35.000 So it's a con artist singularity.

02:58:37.000 Absolutely.

02:58:38.000 It's like a magician doing a trick.

02:58:40.000 Don't watch what the left hand is doing.

02:58:42.000 And if we don't watch what the left hand is doing, we go, Hold on, we got a one minute break.

02:58:46.000 I gotta do five minutes overdrive.

02:58:47.000 John McAfee's our guest.

02:58:48.000 It was McAfee.com.

02:58:50.000 Wow.

02:58:50.000 This guy's really interesting.

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Alex Jones Show - November 28, 2013

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