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00:00:20.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is Sunday, the first day of June 2021.

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00:00:47.000 Wow, a lot of Bilderberg coverage of the week with our crew coming up.

00:00:50.000 We're going to be...

00:00:51.000 Breaking down this Sunday edition, we have four guests coming up.

00:00:55.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts getting into the Ukraine situation, what's really happening with the economy, the gear up for an implosion.

00:01:01.000 Larry Pratt, the founder of Gun Owners of America, he believes they're going to try to sign an executive order making you get biometric guns and banning all the others.

00:01:09.000 I mean this is huge what's coming up on that front.

00:01:12.000 We have our media analyst John Rappaport joining us on a host of issues.

00:01:17.000 and Bilderberg, and Media Control, and then finally co-author of Tom Clancy novels, with some incredible breaking intel on the mass shooting, and more, Steve Pchenik.

00:01:27.000 All that and more coming up on this Sunday, worldwide transmission.

00:01:32.000 This is a revolution of awakening, a revolution of liberty, a revolution of freedom.

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00:01:41.000 They didn't want people to know that Bilderberg existed.

00:01:43.000 Just ten years ago, the media would say it didn't exist.

00:01:45.000 The New York Times in 2007 said I was insane it didn't exist. 2008!

00:01:50.000 It's 2008.

00:01:52.000 Now it's all over NBC, CBS, you name it, and it's because of sites like DrudgeReport.com.

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00:02:19.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am so honored to be here with you on this worldwide transmission, and I'm just excited because when I see more and more mainstream media trying to stay pertinent, being forced to admit Bilderberg, and even saying, yeah, why are they meeting in secret?

00:02:32.000 Are they violating the Logan Act, the Official Secrets Act?

00:02:36.000 Should there be investigations?

00:02:37.000 We've come so far.

00:02:39.000 Once we identify the globalists, it's amazing what we can do.

00:02:43.000 Once we show there's special interests that are controlling things, crony capitalists, the opposite of free market, we can stop the globalists from scapegoating true libertarianism and true free market and true private property and family and whatever you're into.

00:02:58.000 The mutual aggression truce, that I won't initiate aggression on you unless I'm defending myself and you won't on me.

00:03:05.000 And you'll let me live my life and you can live your life and I won't try to use government to run your life, you don't do it to me.

00:03:10.000 That builds an amazing society.

00:03:13.000 Doesn't mean it's not a moral society because then what works becomes popular.

00:03:17.000 It's not what gang you're in or what special interest you're in.

00:03:20.000 No, ladies and gentlemen, it's what type of Production you're involved in, what you've produced, what you've done, what you've made, what you stand for.

00:03:34.000 People come see you because of what you have done and who you are, not off of what group you're part of.

00:03:40.000 I mean, I don't care if you're black or white, if you play the guitar great and sing great, I want to come hear you and I admire you.

00:03:45.000 I don't care if you're Asian or American Indian or Mexican.

00:03:48.000 If I admire your art, I'll hang it in my house and try to invite you over to dinner if I can.

00:03:53.000 Because that's true humans admiring each other, and that builds a better and better society as people vote with their feet, vote with their opinions, vote with their dollars, vote with their applause, or vote with their disdain for what they like and what they don't like.

00:04:08.000 That is the essence of freedom.

00:04:10.000 We don't need the government to make us free.

00:04:12.000 We change our lives and become more free.

00:04:14.000 Doesn't matter what their phony laws say.

00:04:16.000 They will move in our direction.

00:04:17.000 And that's what's happening across the board.

00:04:19.000 And we'll be talking about that with John Rappaport today as well.

00:04:23.000 So four guests.

00:04:25.000 I'm going to just, sometimes I think I'm going to jam-pack this Sunday show with quick two-segment interviews.

00:04:30.000 If everybody shows up today.

00:04:32.000 And I think they will.

00:04:33.000 Larry Pratt.

00:04:35.000 Paul Gregg Roberts.

00:04:37.000 Steve Puccini. 0.75

00:04:38.000 John Rappaport and good old, you know, the crazy Texan that loves freedom so much he stutters and talks over his guests.

00:04:47.000 Yours truly, Alexander Emmerich Jones.

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00:06:58.000 We have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, father of Reaganomics, former head of the Treasury and Policy of Reagan, coming on to talk about the economy, the wars, Obama, what's happening with the dollar.

00:07:10.000 We have the co-author of many of the books with Tom Clancy joining us as well.

00:07:15.000 Dr. Steve Pachinik to talk about the latest Snowden revelations and a lot more.

00:07:19.000 He's also a psychiatrist and we'll look at what happened with Elliot Rodger last weekend when he killed some of the folks reportedly out there in California.

00:07:30.000 Half of the six he killed was with a knife but you never hear that really in the media.

00:07:36.000 Should we all be collectively guilty because we own knives that he used a butcher knife? 0.99

00:07:41.000 It's just as stupid to say gun owners should be collectively responsible for the gun. 0.99

00:07:46.000 But that's really how crazy it is. 0.99

00:07:48.000 That's coming up as well.

00:07:50.000 And we have our media analyst to get into Bilderberg 2014 which is closing down today with our reporters over in Copenhagen reporting all week and tomorrow the global elite being exposed And their agenda, almost to a man, to disarm the people, to consolidate power, and to have crony capitalism, the opposite of free market capitalism, which shuts down their competition.

00:08:13.000 That's coming up as well with John Rappaport today.

00:08:16.000 So, four guests on this Sunday transmission.

00:08:20.000 And joining us for this segment and the next, On the Second Amendment front, and so much more, is the head of Gun Owners of America, the group that keeps the NRA honest, the only no-compromise Second Amendment organization in the country, that's a Ron Paul quote, Larry Pratt, to cover the waterfront.

00:08:38.000 First off, There's a second amendment angle on the VA.

00:08:42.000 General Shinseki, what was it, on Friday resigned, along with Jay Carney.

00:08:46.000 The exodus from the Obama sinking ship accelerates as he tries to blame his underlings. 0.93

00:08:51.000 The VA, folks, has been treating people like garbage for a long time, but it's gotten worse under Obama. 0.87

00:08:55.000 People try to say, oh, don't politicize it. 0.97

00:08:57.000 It is political.

00:08:58.000 The Republicans are going to score points, so what?

00:09:00.000 Let them. 1.00

00:09:01.000 The fact is the troops are being treated like garbage. 0.99

00:09:04.000 They're being denied care. 0.98

00:09:05.000 They're being told they've had procedures done that haven't been.

00:09:08.000 This is horrible.

00:09:10.000 And I don't care if the Republicans make it political.

00:09:13.000 This is a crime that's going on.

00:09:15.000 So it's not okay just because people are making it political.

00:09:18.000 They're trying to change the subject, and I wanted to get Larry Pratt's take on this.

00:09:22.000 The mass shooting a week, eight days ago, nine days ago, and other gun grabbing going on.

00:09:27.000 Larry Pratt, thanks for joining us.

00:09:29.000 Alex, thanks for having me.

00:09:30.000 I really appreciate your show and appreciate being on it.

00:09:34.000 You've got us started, I think, in the right direction for this discussion.

00:09:37.000 The VA has become a really ugly scandal, a whistleblower in Phoenix.

00:09:48.000 has reported seventeen hundred vets that have not even been put on a waiting list in order to get treatment.

00:09:59.000 I guess the thinking was that that way nobody would realize just how bad the problem was if they didn't have a waiting list to look at.

00:10:07.000 So in one case the government is not interested in keeping lists of Americans, but in another case where they're not supposed to, they do.

00:10:18.000 And by that I'm saying that they are making lists of us when we get our backgrounds checked.

00:10:24.000 And we know that they're doing it.

00:10:27.000 They've done longitudinal studies letting scholars at the background check data.

00:10:35.000 And if you can do a longitudinal study over a period of time, that means they haven't destroyed the data after 24 hours.

00:10:42.000 Surprise.

00:10:44.000 And I believe that this administration would be quite capable If there were some kind of excuse, like a Katrina or any sort of declaration of a state of seizure, who knows what this guy is capable of doing?

00:11:04.000 They've already shown what they did after Katrina.

00:11:07.000 They went to the gun stores, I think they've got better technology now, and they collected the names of gun owners in and around New Orleans, and then they went door to door!

00:11:16.000 So it's already happened!

00:11:18.000 In our country.

00:11:19.000 And then, just yesterday, the House sprang a surprise vote.

00:11:24.000 Nominal Republican Peter King wants to shovel millions of more dollars to the National Criminal Instance Check System so that they can have more money for states to gather up more names of people who have not been adjudicated of committing a crime of violence or Perhaps suspected of endangering themselves.

00:11:52.000 No due process, just give us the names.

00:11:55.000 And that's not a good sign.

00:11:56.000 That's very concerning.

00:11:58.000 Very concerning.

00:11:59.000 So, this is just hot off the press.

00:12:01.000 These guys sprang this as a surprise vote, and a lot of Republicans voted wrong on it, and it may be the only quote-unquote gun vote this year, and they're going to look pretty bad.

00:12:15.000 Shifting gears into other issues, the Washington Times last week got an army document by a concerned people, and it openly said, and this has officially been confirmed, that they're training with tanks, armored vehicles, drones under an Obama directive 2012 to take on the American people, namely the Tea Party.

00:12:34.000 Forbes also reported on that.

00:12:36.000 So the billions of bullets, the Homeland Security saying the Tea Party's the threat, I mean, this is crazy!

00:12:44.000 What is Obama thinking? 0.93

00:12:46.000 Well, he's certainly not thinking that Muslims are a threat. 0.90

00:12:50.000 So he's turning to his political opponents, declaring that they're the enemy, and ignoring the fact that Muslims, from time to time, have a tendency to go boom! 0.93

00:13:00.000 And it really shows how upside-down, mixed-up they are.

00:13:05.000 But we shouldn't be surprised, because some time ago, Homeland Insecurity Chief Janet Napolitano fingered veterans as potential terrorists, people who believe in the Second Amendment, that are pro-life, Well, I want to work for limited government.

00:13:26.000 I guess that, the idea of limited government really would terrorize a socialist.

00:13:30.000 So, maybe I, if we look at it from her point of view... Yeah, to them it's terrorism!

00:13:35.000 I mean, George Washington, freedom, they're scared of it.

00:13:39.000 I think that's exactly right.

00:13:40.000 I know it sounds preposterous, probably to people listening to this show, except for the few that might be monitoring for the government, but the fact of the matter is, I do think they tend to think that way.

00:13:54.000 The enemy is freedom, and they really are doing what they can to extinguish it.

00:14:00.000 This is a very dangerous administration, and they don't seem to have any concern at all about acting without any authority.

00:14:10.000 They just, as the President one time said, if the Congress won't move, then I've got a pen and I've got a phone.

00:14:18.000 And I guess, you know, the Emperor is able to do that.

00:14:23.000 Of course, he's probably confusing emperorship and presidency.

00:14:27.000 That's right, and in case a new listener is doubting me on this, it's inside the ring, respected journalist Bill Gertz.

00:14:32.000 Memo outlines Obama's plan to use the military against citizens.

00:14:35.000 High-level Pentagon source sent him the document.

00:14:38.000 He was able to confirm it's real, though restricted, and they have a link to the document in the article, and it's a multi-hundred page report, fully detailing the plan to suppress the American people.

00:14:50.000 I think there should be congressional investigations about this right now.

00:14:55.000 Let's hope.

00:14:56.000 And they might have the investigation, but what they need to do is put some heat on the court that would ultimately receive the criminal complaint, if they can have an investigation and then produce a criminal complaint, as they did with the contempt citation of Eric Holder.

00:15:15.000 They turned that over to the D.C.

00:15:17.000 federal court.

00:15:19.000 That was over a year ago.

00:15:20.000 Nothing has happened.

00:15:21.000 Now, the House has not The House, if it had the determination, could simply tell the court, you know, in the next budget...

00:15:29.000 We're just not going to be able to find the money for you all.

00:15:33.000 At least not until you... That's the way to do it.

00:15:35.000 Just cut the money off.

00:15:36.000 So until they get on the stick, just tell them that their fat checks are not going to be able to be sent out.

00:15:44.000 Larry Pratt, we're going to have a jam-packed segment coming up.

00:15:46.000 I'm going to try to give you the floor to break down the latest attacks on the Second Amendment and where they're coming from.

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00:16:01.000 We'll be right back with Larry Pratt.

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00:21:18.000 No, we have an amazing guest coming up, and of course, I think the most amazing right up front, Larry Pratt.

00:21:22.000 And the reason I say that is, I've studied politics.

00:21:25.000 I've been in it 20 years, more than that.

00:21:27.000 He's been in it 50 years, promoting Liberty, Proto-Tea Party.

00:21:30.000 If it wasn't for Gun Owners of America... 0.75

00:21:33.000 I don't usually gush with most our guests, which is true.

00:21:36.000 We wouldn't have a Second Amendment right now to any extent.

00:21:39.000 We'd be like England or Australia. 0.97

00:21:41.000 They're following the same blueprint.

00:21:43.000 Gun owners was also able to radicalize the NRA.

00:21:46.000 Even Ted Nugent, who's a listener and calls into the show, you've heard him, has said on this show, even though he's a board member of the NRA, and I'm not knocking the NRA, I used to, that we were able to radicalize it.

00:21:57.000 And it should be radicalized.

00:21:59.000 Radical's not a bad word when you're facing radical anti-American behavior.

00:22:03.000 As Barry Goldwater said, radicalism in defense of liberty is no vice.

00:22:08.000 And sometimes silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

00:22:11.000 And it's just an example of how they tell us, settle down, don't accuse us of stuff that's hardcore, it sounds crazy.

00:22:18.000 Well, if somebody's doing it, if Obama's shipping guns into Mexico to blame the Second Amendment and gets caught, it's sensational, say it! 0.72

00:22:26.000 Anyways, enough of that.

00:22:27.000 Larry, we've only got nine minutes in this segment.

00:22:29.000 I want to get into the covert attacks on the Second Amendment, the overt, Obama saying he may act with executive orders to go after guns, biometric guns, even Senator Cornyn's warning of that, that that's their plan, this latest mass shooting that was really a stabbing that they don't want to talk about, and other issues.

00:22:46.000 Larry Pratt, you've got the floor.

00:22:48.000 Let's start with Operation Choke Point.

00:22:50.000 It's been going on longer than we've known about it, but the name has finally emerged thanks to Whistleblower.

00:22:58.000 And what they're doing is they're putting the squeeze on banks through the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, saying that if you deal with some 13 industries that are deemed dangerous, then you are going to either not be able to extend lines of credit or you're going to have to charge much higher fees.

00:23:24.000 And wouldn't you know, Gun stores are one of the 13 industries they're going after.

00:23:31.000 That is exactly the pen and telephone approach that our dear leader has promised us.

00:23:38.000 And this is... companies are getting dropped by their banks because of this squeeze.

00:23:44.000 It's what Hitler did for the first seven years before he started arresting everybody. 0.91

00:23:49.000 Yeah, and it works pretty well.

00:23:52.000 Now the good news is that this is Still somewhat America.

00:23:57.000 And there's been a very effective response.

00:24:00.000 One group that had made high-end rifles is now something like Macmillan Services.

00:24:07.000 Something of that sort.

00:24:09.000 From Macmillan Rifles to Macmillan Services.

00:24:13.000 And they're saying, well, you know, you can have a credit processing operation without being under the FDIC.

00:24:20.000 And so merchants are going to them and getting decent rates and they're not being clobbered by a bank that's being in turn stiffed by the FDIC.

00:24:33.000 Now the further good news we've got somebody looking into this and hopefully within a week or two we're gonna have a setup where we can offer what Macmillan is doing.

00:24:46.000 So if you're a gun store and you're being hammered by the The way the banks are being squeezed by the Obama administration?

00:24:55.000 Well, you'll be able to get that done just fine, because you don't need to be a banker to do credit card.

00:25:01.000 And, you know, for credit cards that bounce, well, you factor that in as your cost of doing business, and we think we'll probably be able to lower, to offer a lower fee Absolutely.

00:25:13.000 being done before the banks...

00:25:15.000 That's right.

00:25:15.000 The answer is if these big mega banks that are Goldman Sachs and others that have been caught, JPMorgan Chase giving money to anti-gun groups and stuff, they want to play hardball, we'll just take our business completely away from them.

00:25:25.000 Absolutely.

00:25:26.000 I'm excited by this, and I'm hoping that we really can pull this off.

00:25:31.000 And it may be an independent company that's set up.

00:25:34.000 It may be part of gun ownership.

00:25:36.000 We should use libertarian and conservative money to build our system, to defend ourselves, and we should do it without them trying to control us with it.

00:25:44.000 Here, here.

00:25:46.000 Wow, incredible Larry.

00:25:47.000 Moving on to other covert ways they're attacking, and then this mass shooting.

00:25:50.000 Well, one of the things that we've found in this push for the smart gun, which the most recent iteration is put out by the Armitage company, they How do you operate this with an RFID chip in the watch that you have to be wearing on your shooting hand for the gun to operate?

00:26:11.000 Well, not only is it not reliable, it doesn't work every single time.

00:26:17.000 In fact, I learned last night from a guy that knows a lot more about guns than I do, that with every magazine that's in that gun, ten round magazine, there's going to be one round that jams.

00:26:30.000 Of more concern, if they were able to fix the jamming problem, is that the watch and the gun both operate with an RFID chip.

00:26:39.000 Well, guess what?

00:26:40.000 That can be hacked!

00:26:42.000 Of course!

00:26:43.000 Oh, my!

00:26:44.000 And then they just want to ban all the guns that don't have it.

00:26:46.000 I mean, this is a total... Well, I was just reading today that they have a technology which is being installed, say, in a theater.

00:26:52.000 You go into the theater, you got a cell phone.

00:26:54.000 This technology, this RFID system, would detect the cell phone and keep it from ringing.

00:27:00.000 Well, that's a benign use.

00:27:02.000 That's, you know, nobody's going to object too much.

00:27:05.000 But that same technology could shut your smart gun off and then your gun isn't very smart at all.

00:27:11.000 Absolutely.

00:27:12.000 This whole smart technology is about piggybacking, spying, and control.

00:27:15.000 That's on record.

00:27:16.000 Apple phones, they admit it now, when you go to concerts, just won't work automatically.

00:27:20.000 I mean, that's them preemptively blocking you like a criminal.

00:27:23.000 In the time we've got left, Larry, do you think Senator Cornyn's right that he's really planning to maybe do an executive order and try this?

00:27:32.000 I happen to agree with the Senator on this one.

00:27:36.000 I think this guy is out of control.

00:27:40.000 The speaker of the house is... well, I have a laugh line now in some of my talks.

00:27:46.000 I say, zoologists have uncovered a new phylum.

00:27:49.000 It's called the Johannes Beinerus.

00:27:53.000 It walks upright, but it has no spine.

00:27:55.000 Oh my goodness, I think that is the very creature.

00:27:58.000 We need to get rid of Beiner and get somebody good in there.

00:28:01.000 Finally, what do you make of the killer in Santa Monica killing half of the six people with a knife?

00:28:07.000 And he did it in what amounts to a gun-free zone.

00:28:10.000 The sheriff of that liberal county has only given a little over 50 concealed carry permits.

00:28:17.000 Wow.

00:28:17.000 So it's like nobody can protect themselves.

00:28:20.000 And then he cased the joint.

00:28:22.000 We understand from his screeds and his YouTubes and whatnot that he was thinking about one place and then when he cased it he found that there were too many cops.

00:28:31.000 And so he went to another place at another time when he figured he'd have maximum opportunity.

00:28:36.000 So, this was a little spoiled kid in a very liberal home, an anti...

00:28:42.000 Second Amendment home, broken home too, for that matter, which is also typical of young criminals.

00:28:50.000 And then we get the blame.

00:28:51.000 Larry, we're out of time.

00:28:52.000 Promise you'll come back for a full 30 minutes soon?

00:28:54.000 I sure hope so.

00:28:55.000 Thank you, sir.

00:28:55.000 Thank you.

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00:33:18.000 Defending the Republic from enemies, foreign and domestic.

00:33:33.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:33:35.000 Well, John Rappaport is an investigative journalist, best-selling author, and a frequent contributor to Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and our and a frequent contributor to Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and our online syndicated columns.

00:33:55.000 He also is the editor of NoMoreFakeNews.com, and we've got him on with us for two segments today.

00:34:02.000 We've got a bunch of guests jam-packed on this Sunday edition.

00:34:07.000 We're here every Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

00:34:09.000 Central.

00:34:10.000 And we of course return weekdays with the live weekday show 11 a.m.

00:34:15.000 to 2 p.m.

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00:34:18.000 Most Sundays this broadcast is live as well.

00:34:22.000 Sometimes you hear David Knight and our other reporters hosting the show.

00:34:25.000 Right now they're over in Europe.

00:34:28.000 In Copenhagen, Denmark, covering the 60th anniversary of the Bilderberg Group.

00:34:33.000 And I'm going to have them on tomorrow with a final take on the event that's been going on for 60 years, openly to establish world government.

00:34:43.000 The dam really broke this year, more than ever, on Bilderberg, thanks to Infowars.com, WorldNetDaily.com, DrudgeReport.com, and all the rest of the real media.

00:34:53.000 Most of it is libertarian slash what you'd call paleo-conservative or constitutionalist.

00:34:57.000 Because we're diametrically opposed to Bilderberg, just instinctively, to being slaves to offshore corporate interest.

00:35:03.000 And you see a Tea Party, Ron Paul style, UKIP sweeping the EU Parliament elections, the British elections, the local elections in England, the national elections.

00:35:14.000 Same thing starting to happen here.

00:35:16.000 This is a real revolution.

00:35:17.000 It's got the Republicans and Democrats trying to target it, to kill it here domestically.

00:35:21.000 Same thing in Europe.

00:35:23.000 Now, can they co-opt it?

00:35:24.000 They're going to try.

00:35:25.000 But so far they've been unable to do it.

00:35:28.000 They tried to take over the Tea Party, demonize it as Republican.

00:35:31.000 That didn't work.

00:35:32.000 So I wanted to ask John Rappaport, who's a savvy media analyst joining us from Southern California, his take on Bilderberg 2014 and the mind control that world government didn't exist and these shadowy rooms didn't exist.

00:35:44.000 We saw reporters beat up, the videos on Infowars.com, we saw the windows blacked out at the Five Star Marriott Resort in Copenhagen.

00:35:52.000 We saw giant fences put up, free speech zones, all for something that didn't exist.

00:35:56.000 But suddenly, the dam has broken.

00:35:58.000 Hundreds of publications, from the Wall Street Journal, to the London Guardian, to CNBC, are now forced to report on it.

00:36:05.000 And most of them said, yeah, looks like a corporate conspiracy.

00:36:08.000 They've gone from denying it exists, to actually being kind of against Bilderberg.

00:36:13.000 We did see a few publications make fun of it, but Rappaport, what is happening?

00:36:19.000 Well, as you say, Alex, the dam has burst.

00:36:23.000 The news has gotten out from Infowars and other media outlets are picking it up and they're being forced to admit that it exists.

00:36:33.000 And also, the whole structure of monolithic media control of the planet has shattered.

00:36:43.000 And to me that is one of the main agendas that these people behind closed doors are discussing as we speak over there.

00:36:51.000 What are we going to do about that?

00:36:54.000 We're no longer able to just send lies down the pipeline and have them published as fact in the controlling media because There's too much media now.

00:37:07.000 We can't keep a lid on everything.

00:37:10.000 And how are we going to gain back that control?

00:37:13.000 What can we do?

00:37:15.000 I'm quite sure that those discussions are ongoing.

00:37:19.000 And of course, one of the main suggestions will be to provoke a major crisis, an event that will need to be covered with one story, One set of facts, a.k.a.

00:37:38.000 lies, that will try to bring back one control, one world control of the media so that everybody's on the same page.

00:37:48.000 Because they're losing the battle.

00:37:51.000 They can't, you know, keep putting their fingers in the dam and stopping the water.

00:37:56.000 With the major media even now reporting on the event, They're in serious trouble.

00:38:03.000 Serious trouble.

00:38:04.000 Well, here's an example.

00:38:05.000 Nielsen reported last week that CNN in a year lost 44% of their viewers.

00:38:10.000 MSNBC, 24%.

00:38:11.000 And that's from their already shrunk audience.

00:38:14.000 They're joke level.

00:38:16.000 Ed Schultz just quit his radio show. 0.97

00:38:18.000 There's no so-called liberal radio because they're not liberals, they're fascists.

00:38:21.000 I would consider you a liberal. 0.61

00:38:22.000 Myself a liberal.

00:38:23.000 More guns, more freedom, more of our own money.

00:38:27.000 I mean, I think the whole facade's falling.

00:38:29.000 What do you think?

00:38:30.000 Yeah, absolutely falling.

00:38:32.000 No question about it.

00:38:34.000 And not just in the United States, all over the world.

00:38:37.000 So these guys are living in the past over there at Bilderberg.

00:38:42.000 You know, they're still trying to behave as if they've got an iron grip on everything.

00:38:49.000 And it's, you know, 1965 and nobody even knows they exist and they're meeting every year and they're trying to pretend that, but other voices among them are saying, you know, we have to wake up here.

00:39:02.000 This whole thing is being destroyed.

00:39:04.000 Our whole control factor is being destroyed.

00:39:08.000 And so I think that another one of their discussions that has to do with mind control is how do we improve the technology of surveillance?

00:39:18.000 I mean, it's awesome even now, but how do we keep track of everybody all the time, everywhere on the planet, whatever they do, wherever they go, their actions, their thoughts, their statements, their words?

00:39:32.000 Online, offline, everywhere.

00:39:35.000 Because that's really, in their minds, the only solution they have.

00:39:40.000 That's right, and what they've got, all the big establishment government outfits saying, end net neutrality, end fairness, repeal the fairness doctrine, bring back restrictions on talk radio, bring back restrictions on all sorts of speech.

00:39:55.000 They're telling college students you can't have a fiesta party.

00:39:58.000 It's racist.

00:39:59.000 You can't say the word girl.

00:40:01.000 You can't say the word bossy.

00:40:02.000 I mean, this is a Monty Python skit if it wasn't actually happening.

00:40:07.000 It's so absurdist that I really do now think they're smoking their own propaganda dope.

00:40:14.000 Yeah, no question about it.

00:40:16.000 Hey, let me shift gears.

00:40:17.000 We're going to go to break here in a minute and come back and get into some other topics that I know you want to get into, but Santa Monica.

00:40:23.000 The so-called mass shooting, half the six people that were killed, you know, he's the seventh, so we don't count him, were killed by knives.

00:40:31.000 But then, Dr. Steve Pchenik's coming up later, you know, famous spy in his own right, he says it's a false flag.

00:40:36.000 You live out there in Southern California, what's your gut tell you?

00:40:40.000 You know, I just finished reading for the second time this guy, Elliot Rogers' manifesto.

00:40:45.000 That huge, whatever it is, 140-page document.

00:40:50.000 And I gotta say that there's something that rings exceedingly phony about this.

00:40:55.000 Watching him talk on video, reading his words.

00:40:59.000 This looks like some kind of a put-up prop job to me.

00:41:04.000 He doesn't sound legit.

00:41:06.000 For several reasons.

00:41:10.000 He's making himself out to be boo-hoo, look at me, I can't get a girl, I have money, I have a BMW. 0.93

00:41:18.000 But when you read his words and you listen to him talk, it's like he's faking the whole thing.

00:41:25.000 It's like it's coming off as an arrogant joke.

00:41:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:29.000 You know, this isn't somebody who's really desperate.

00:41:33.000 This is somebody who's faking being desperate, who's faking the whole message that he's trying to put forward here.

00:41:41.000 And of course, in the wake of the shooting, we know the agenda, you know. 0.91

00:41:46.000 More psychiatric care, invasive psychiatric care, take away everybody's guns, which would now have to include... White men are bad, more racial division, I mean it just goes on and on. 0.66

00:41:57.000 Exactly. 0.95

00:41:59.000 To me, there's something set up and phony about this whole deal.

00:42:03.000 It's just...

00:42:04.000 Well, what I don't get is, why an Aurora, Sandy Hook, and now this, massive connections to Hunger Games?

00:42:10.000 You know, the first time it was a connection, I said, come on listeners, knock it off.

00:42:13.000 The second time, where she lives in the town, you know, the author, it gets a little weird.

00:42:17.000 Now, his dad's the director?

00:42:19.000 Uh, I mean, this is getting weird.

00:42:22.000 Is there's a unit director on The Hunger Games and he directed this one small sequence within Hunger Games that was a propaganda message about the new society and how we have to ritually sacrifice the children in order to remember that the treason of the rebellion was a horrible crime and would never stand for it again.

00:42:44.000 And then you've got children killed in San Diego, children killed in Santa Barbara.

00:42:49.000 And they have the exact same Armored vehicles in the new movie, the second one, Catching Fire, that they are actually deploying on our streets.

00:42:57.000 It's the same armored vehicle.

00:42:59.000 And then Marxism is the way to fix the problems when the globalists run that.

00:42:59.000 Yeah.

00:43:03.000 I'm telling you, this is getting so weird.

00:43:04.000 I can't figure it out.

00:43:05.000 I don't know the truth.

00:43:07.000 I'm trying to find it just like you are, folks.

00:43:09.000 We'll be back.

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00:47:14.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

00:47:18.000 Big Brother. .

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00:47:31.000 Government cover-ups.

00:47:33.000 You want answers?

00:47:35.000 Well, so does he.

00:47:37.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

00:47:46.000 Final segment in this hour.

00:47:48.000 We have got Dr. Steve Pchenik joining us and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts in the next hour, the second hour.

00:47:56.000 You do not want to miss that key intel on multiple fronts.

00:48:00.000 And we'll get Dr. Pchenik's take on the situation with the mass shooting last week.

00:48:04.000 He told me in an email, clear false flag, and he used to run psych warfare operations for the Pentagon, on record, and co-wrote a bunch of Tom Clancy's books.

00:48:12.000 I mean, it's really off the charts to have him saying that.

00:48:16.000 Let's go back in this final segment for this hour with media analyst of nomorefakenews.com, John Rappaport.

00:48:23.000 John, during the break you said you wanted to get back into some more on Bilderberg, then your take on the Snowden revelations the last week, and then this new document the Washington Times put out.

00:48:32.000 that the Pentagon leaked to him, that the Pentagon's concerned about, the open admission that Obama wants to use drones, tanks, troops against the Tea Party.

00:48:40.000 I mean, this is just, I can't believe how all this stuff's coming out.

00:48:44.000 John Rappaport, other thoughts on Bilderberg's 60-year anniversary?

00:48:47.000 One of the things that they're doing over there is, in the wake of the Snowden revelations that the U.S.

00:48:56.000 has been spying on other government leaders around the world, other governments.

00:49:01.000 They want to smooth all this out among themselves.

00:49:04.000 They want to sit down and say, look, we know.

00:49:06.000 You knew we were spying on you.

00:49:08.000 You're spying on us.

00:49:10.000 You know, let's not, you know, fake it here.

00:49:13.000 We know what's going on.

00:49:14.000 We've always known what's going on, and it's been okay until it hit the press.

00:49:19.000 So let's You know, smooth over our problems.

00:49:24.000 Let's figure out how we're going to play it in the press.

00:49:27.000 We can act insulted and so forth and protest and everything, but underneath it, the surveillance programs are going to expand.

00:49:34.000 You know that.

00:49:35.000 We know that.

00:49:36.000 Let's make sure there's no hard feelings.

00:49:38.000 Everybody's on the same page.

00:49:40.000 That is preeminent because they don't want this kind of thing with Snowden to suddenly cause a serious blow up and personal conflicts among world leaders who are all aiming toward one world government.

00:49:55.000 As far as the Snowden revelations on the Brian Williams interview, You know, he says, I'm a spy.

00:50:02.000 You know, I'm not a low-level analyst.

00:50:06.000 He decides for some reason he didn't want to say this before, but now he does.

00:50:11.000 I was trained as a spy by the CIA, by NSA, by DIA.

00:50:16.000 I worked under cover names abroad, overseas.

00:50:20.000 I'm a spy.

00:50:22.000 Well, the main takeaway from that is, and people have to really understand this, is that spies lie all the time.

00:50:28.000 That's what they're trained to do.

00:50:30.000 I mean, you can't become a spy unless you lie.

00:50:35.000 That's the main test.

00:50:36.000 Can you lie through your teeth 24 hours a day and with a straight face?

00:50:42.000 So now this begins to throw into doubt something about Snowden.

00:50:49.000 Regardless of how he appears, regardless of what he's saying, regardless of the fact that yeah, he's exposed these documents which certainly some of us knew about all along.

00:51:01.000 Oh yeah, I mean now he's the only avatar, the only symbol exposing Any type of big brother when there was all these real whistleblowers that are getting put in jail or ignored that nobody's giving attention to that have brought out even bigger revelations.

00:51:15.000 He's a way to control it and that's what Pchenik said a year ago and earlier this year and I kind of poo-pooed it but I tell you it's starting to really look bad.

00:51:25.000 Yeah, and also it's starting to look like Snowden was a way to let the population know that they're being spied on all the time, because that's the main point.

00:51:35.000 That's it, a trial balloon throwing it in our face, and then doubling down saying it's traitorous to even oppose it.

00:51:42.000 Exactly.

00:51:43.000 But you've got to let the population know that they're being spied on all the time if surveillance has any purpose at all.

00:51:50.000 Because that's really the purpose of it, is to keep people in check so that they won't think certain things, won't say certain things.

00:51:57.000 Yeah, they want you to know you're being listened to so you self-censor instead of saying, so what?

00:52:01.000 I've done nothing wrong.

00:52:03.000 I'm going to expose you. 0.99

00:52:04.000 Quit listening to me, criminal. 0.97

00:52:05.000 Exactly.

00:52:06.000 Exactly.

00:52:07.000 So, you know, that's his function in the larger scheme of things, is to be the one who lets everybody know that they're being spied on.

00:52:16.000 I mean, what else is it?

00:52:18.000 That's what it is.

00:52:21.000 But I know I'm a moral real guy.

00:52:23.000 I know you're real.

00:52:24.000 I want freedom.

00:52:25.000 I'm a paleo, conservative, libertarian, constitutionalist.

00:52:31.000 And so I know that when I expose the spying, people would say, oh, you're doing that to scare us.

00:52:35.000 You work for them.

00:52:36.000 But even if I don't work for them, I guess if the public are cowards, I guess I do.

00:52:41.000 I guess if I expose this evil's going on, I guess I am doing the bad guy's work.

00:52:45.000 If I've misjudged the public and they're really cowards, it'll roll over now because I'm I'm telling them what's going on.

00:52:52.000 I mean, do you see what I'm saying intellectually?

00:52:54.000 I do, yes, I do.

00:52:57.000 You know, on balance, though, people can detect when you're being real.

00:53:03.000 You know, you're not being a spy, you're being real and you're exposing the truth.

00:53:07.000 And that's what communicates to people.

00:53:10.000 Whereas in the case of some of these so-called defectors, You say, yeah, well, their real mission is to let the public know that they're being spied on.

00:53:17.000 I mean, that's the whole purpose.

00:53:19.000 Sure, you notice the Russians have been trying to get rid of him forever.

00:53:22.000 Yeah.

00:53:23.000 And then nobody will take him.

00:53:24.000 I mean, they want him out.

00:53:26.000 Because it also becomes this anti-Russia thing.

00:53:26.000 Sure.

00:53:29.000 Remember how they didn't want to let him fly in, but he did?

00:53:31.000 Yeah.

00:53:33.000 I tell you, I don't want to demonize him.

00:53:34.000 He may be a good guy.

00:53:36.000 He may be getting handled and manipulated as well.

00:53:38.000 Who knows?

00:53:39.000 I think that was the whole objective from the beginning and that's what I wrote about originally when the revelations came out.

00:53:45.000 That he was being manipulated from the beginning.

00:53:49.000 No, no, we carried your articles and Kurt Nemo agreed with them and did his own digging and I kind of...

00:53:55.000 I've just been accused so much myself that I kind of have this defense mechanism that, oh no, he's not a triple agent or something.

00:54:01.000 But I tell you, we live in a cloak and dagger world, John, and the public just better start thinking about it.

00:54:06.000 Shifting gears into one final topic with you in the time we have, I'm sure you saw last Friday The article that Drudge Report picked up that was on the WashingtonTimes.com, it's also on Infowars.com, we then wrote about it.

00:54:19.000 This new document that got leaked to them, 3025.18, Department of Defense Directive, where it says we're going to use drones, tanks, armor against the general public, civil unrest is coming.

00:54:31.000 And then if you expand into other documents, it's Tea Party.

00:54:33.000 This is the total proof of what we've been saying.

00:54:36.000 The military is being formed into an army to go after the general public.

00:54:41.000 What is your take on this?

00:54:42.000 Here's the headline.

00:54:43.000 Bill Gertz, directive outlines Obama's plan to use the military against citizens.

00:54:49.000 This has been a plan for a long time, but it's certainly escalated since 9-11.

00:54:55.000 And this is just a continuation of that.

00:54:57.000 This is saying You people, all you people of the U.S.

00:55:02.000 population know that nobody can be trusted, that there are people out there who want to do us harm, and so we're going to have to clamp down on everybody in order to preserve your freedom, of which there will be none when we, you know, militarize the entire country.

00:55:20.000 So this is, you know, Leaking one drip and drop at a time and then we get boom this latest revelation which is bigger.

00:55:30.000 It's again to let people know this is what we're doing.

00:55:34.000 This is and and then people say yeah wow that's I don't know about that and then they go back to what they were doing and they become you know Mind control to accept this.

00:55:46.000 Okay, so this is going to be the state of affairs.

00:55:50.000 It's not just going to be the cops.

00:55:52.000 It's going to be the entire military now.

00:55:54.000 It's going to lock down the country because we're always under threat.

00:55:58.000 The war on terror never stops.

00:56:00.000 And I guess I'll just have to accommodate myself to that.

00:56:03.000 So this is more training for the American people, so to speak.

00:56:09.000 Undoubtedly.

00:56:10.000 And then it's not pointed at Al Qaeda, which they now admit our government runs.

00:56:14.000 It's pointed directly at us.

00:56:16.000 Why do you think they're going after the Real Tea Party so much?

00:56:20.000 Oh, well, to me, that's obvious because it was and is a burgeoning movement of people who, when you take away all the insane propaganda, you know, against it, are people who are constitutionalists, who look at the meaning of the original documents and say, OK, so this was all about limiting the power of government.

00:56:44.000 Wow.

00:56:45.000 Individual freedom, limiting the power of government.

00:56:48.000 That's what government should be.

00:56:50.000 That's what we want.

00:56:52.000 That's what these people are saying.

00:56:53.000 That's what they've really been saying all along at the core of the Tea Party and these constitutional movements.

00:57:01.000 And that's a direct threat against the state, against the government of the United States, which is all about expanding power.

00:57:08.000 Exactly.

00:57:09.000 It's diametrically opposed to the collectivist Borg model.

00:57:13.000 Exactly.

00:57:13.000 Totally opposed.

00:57:15.000 So it's like we've got to clamp down on these people. 0.90

00:57:18.000 We've got to associate them with terrorists, with threats, with crazy people. 0.78

00:57:22.000 You know what, John?

00:57:23.000 We're out of time, but I've got this one little five-minute segment coming up that some stations don't carry, but folks at PrisonPlanet.tv see.

00:57:29.000 We're going to break.

00:57:29.000 Come back and do five more minutes with us to finish this, because I want to talk about solutions.

00:57:33.000 You say it better than anybody, how to break out of the trance, how to wake folks up.

00:57:38.000 I want to talk about how to break the trance, coming up, second hour, John Rappaport, one more segment, then we've got Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of Reaganomics on the economy, on world politics, on Bilderberg and so much more, and then Dr. Steve Pchenik, spy master, co-author, Tom Clancy.

00:57:55.000 It's all coming up.

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01:00:01.000 Coast to Coast.

01:00:02.000 Direct from Austin.

01:00:04.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

01:00:07.000 Network.

01:00:08.000 There is a war in It's happening now.

01:00:38.000 It will decide the fate of humanity.

01:00:40.000 The time to choose sides has come.

01:00:43.000 We are the resistance.

01:00:45.000 We are the Infowar.

01:00:49.000 And folks, it is Sunday, June 1st, 2014, and I am just sitting here, thinking about all this, and it just hit me.

01:01:02.000 We really are broadcasting from FEMA Region 6.

01:01:04.000 We really are in a 10-part global government, with 10 sub-regions per region.

01:01:10.000 It really is public.

01:01:12.000 They really are putting cancer viruses and vaccines and brain-damaging hydrofluorosilic acid in the water.

01:01:19.000 I really own their books where they admit they're doing it on my bookshelf.

01:01:24.000 It's a Twilight Zone episode.

01:01:25.000 But in a way, it's exciting, it's real, it's animating.

01:01:30.000 Let me tell you, I'm not worried about my hair sticking up in public anymore.

01:01:33.000 I'm not worried about what people think about me.

01:01:35.000 I care about this species.

01:01:37.000 Not because I'm a hero. 0.99

01:01:39.000 Just because I'm not a piece of crap. 0.96

01:01:41.000 I just want to have a better world. 0.99

01:01:43.000 I like nice people, not scum.

01:01:45.000 But nice people have been blinded, we've been brought up incrementally with the poison being titrated, built up, so we have an incredible tolerance to it, and they've used our own adaptability against us to put up with the abuse. 0.62

01:01:58.000 And in the last four minutes, we've gotten this short segment with John Rappaport.

01:02:01.000 John, you talk about breaking the trance.

01:02:04.000 Because I don't want to just wake people up in a sub-trance, where they go, okay, it's happening, and feel hopeless.

01:02:11.000 We can change the world and make it better if we take the next step.

01:02:15.000 How do we do that?

01:02:16.000 How do we break out of the trance?

01:02:19.000 You know, Alex, what I've always said is that people have to go back to the root.

01:02:24.000 What is the root?

01:02:25.000 Freedom.

01:02:26.000 And then they have to understand what that means for them fully.

01:02:32.000 You know, because when people do understand that, they become motivated to take action.

01:02:37.000 They don't just sit there and stare out the window.

01:02:40.000 But the problem is, is a lot of people get kind of a half idea of what their own particular freedom means.

01:02:47.000 They don't really learn about it.

01:02:49.000 They don't contemplate it.

01:02:51.000 Nobody teaches it to them.

01:02:53.000 They have to do it themselves.

01:02:55.000 Because everything that we're saying here comes back to that.

01:02:59.000 They're trying to destroy freedom.

01:03:01.000 That's their goal.

01:03:02.000 Control means no freedom.

01:03:04.000 You're a slave.

01:03:05.000 Okay, so what is your freedom?

01:03:08.000 What does that really mean?

01:03:09.000 Oh, it's a word.

01:03:11.000 It means I can shop here, or I can go there, or I can take a vacation.

01:03:15.000 That has nothing to do with anything.

01:03:17.000 The deeper an individual gets to understand the root of his own freedom, he not only understands how they are trying to take it away, but what power lies in that freedom that he has.

01:03:30.000 The power to act.

01:03:32.000 The power to do the right thing. 1.00

01:03:34.000 The power not to be a schmuck. 0.96

01:03:36.000 The power to have your own original thoughts and not take up the false freedom of exercising the fake freedoms they try to sell us to carry out, like, oh, you're free if you do this or that. 0.97

01:03:47.000 Well, yeah, if I want to, but it needs to originate from my spirit, from my core, not from their system.

01:03:53.000 You bet.

01:03:54.000 You bet.

01:03:55.000 And that's why they're going after Constitutionalists, because Constitutionalists begin to understand that, hey, my freedom really has nothing to do with the government at all.

01:04:06.000 You know, or the media, or any official, anybody.

01:04:10.000 It has to do with me.

01:04:11.000 My freedom is prior to any law, any rule, any regulation.

01:04:15.000 They want you to go to them to have them certify your freedom when the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence are beautiful because they say, no, your freedom already existed.

01:04:24.000 We're just pointing some of it out here.

01:04:26.000 We've got to say, I'm free.

01:04:28.000 I don't care what the hell you say.

01:04:30.000 Exactly.

01:04:31.000 That's how it all starts.

01:04:33.000 People have to separate that.

01:04:35.000 They have to say, no, my freedom has nothing to do with anybody.

01:04:39.000 Giving something to me. 0.75

01:04:40.000 I mean, is that ridiculous? 0.95

01:04:43.000 Does somebody give you, you know, your hand? 0.96

01:04:45.000 No, it's yours.

01:04:47.000 Somebody give you your freedom?

01:04:48.000 Absolutely not.

01:04:49.000 John, it's too powerful.

01:04:50.000 I want to get you on for a full hour this week.

01:04:53.000 Guys, let's set up John Rappaport for the weekday show right now.

01:04:55.000 Let's do a full hour on true freedom.

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01:05:03.000 In fact, let me even let him host a few hours so I'm not interrupting.

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01:06:08.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

01:06:17.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

01:06:21.000 You know, we've been running that liner for about 18 years on air, and folks used to think it was a joke, and it is kind of tongue-in-cheek.

01:06:29.000 But now, we really are under this occupied government.

01:06:34.000 The bureaucracy, the corporate interest, they just do whatever they want.

01:06:38.000 And it was in the Washington Times last week, I just talked about it with Gunners of America head Larry Pratt, that oh, the Pentagon is training to crush the Tea Party and gun owners and to use drones against them, and that is NORTHCOM's main mission.

01:06:52.000 I mean, it's just, it's crazy!

01:06:54.000 That, you know, I talked about that five years ago with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:06:57.000 He'd bring it up and we were like, oh, that's those nuts.

01:07:00.000 And then now it's just all out in the open.

01:07:02.000 We're moving into authoritarianism.

01:07:04.000 The whole world is, in my view.

01:07:06.000 And for two segments, we've got four guests today on this Sunday edition.

01:07:10.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of Reaganomics, multi-time best-selling author, listed by many publications as one of the top ten living economists.

01:07:18.000 So he's kind of a big deal, sits on a lot of the boards, some of the biggest think tanks.

01:07:23.000 He has been saying we're turning into a total authoritarian system and that we never really left the recession and those numbers are now coming in proving that.

01:07:31.000 I want to cover the waterfront with him about geopolitical things that are happening, Obama's West Point speech, really the state of the republic.

01:07:41.000 We're going to talk about that in two short segments with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:07:44.000 I'll also give you his website in a moment, so be ready for that.

01:07:47.000 We, of course, syndicate his column at Infowars.com as well on the internet.

01:07:52.000 But there's a lot of stuff to get to today here.

01:07:55.000 Where do you want to begin, Dr. Roberts?

01:07:57.000 You're also the editor of the Wall Street Journal, I should throw in for good measure.

01:08:01.000 I mean, I threw out kind of a cornucopia of issues.

01:08:04.000 What do you want to tackle first or do you want to cover something else?

01:08:07.000 It's your show, Alex, so I'll accommodate you and what you think your audience is into.

01:08:13.000 What do you want to dive into first and then I threw out?

01:08:17.000 Well, I thought that Obama's West Point speech was very revealing, and particularly some of the reaction to it.

01:08:27.000 So, maybe that sort of is in the news.

01:08:32.000 It sets the stage for a lot of the else that you mentioned.

01:08:35.000 Let's get into it.

01:08:38.000 Well, you notice that Obama said that he believed in American exceptionalism.

01:08:47.000 With every fiber of his body, or something to that extent.

01:08:51.000 Now, what he's saying is that he believes that Americans are ubermensch, and that they are superior to other people in other countries, and that this superiority means that we have the right to prevail

01:09:10.000 over others and that we will continue to intervene in the affairs of the rest of the world and that the military is the prime way with which we intervene.

01:09:23.000 So we see here a policy of no diplomacy, just coercion, force.

01:09:32.000 The only diplomacy the United States has is you do what we say and we'll bomb you into the Stone Age.

01:09:38.000 Remember that?

01:09:40.000 And he's saying that just because we're coming out of Afghanistan, it doesn't mean that we're not going to continue to intervene wherever we think that we want to.

01:09:54.000 So this, in a way, is an indication that there's no backing off on the strategic threat that the Obama regime has brought to Russia and Ukraine.

01:10:09.000 That there's no backing off on the Obama regime's resurrection of the Cold War in place of the Soviet threat.

01:10:20.000 We now have the Russian threat, and we are building up forces in the Baltics and in Eastern Europe against a non-existent Russian threat.

01:10:34.000 So just like, in my opinion and I believe yours, that the War on Terror was a hoax that served the military security complex, we're now going to have a Cold War hoax.

01:10:47.000 There's a new way.

01:10:47.000 Oh, that's a great way to coin it.

01:10:49.000 It's a Cold War hoax, and I do totally agree with you. 1.00

01:10:52.000 And, you know, it's one thing to have manifest destiny when you're fighting a bunch of Native Americans, and they're actually fighting back against you. 1.00

01:10:59.000 You could say there was a war.

01:11:00.000 I'm not endorsing it.

01:11:01.000 But to start a new Lebensfrau or living space thing, you know, against Russia and people, it's just madness, especially when the country itself is sinking into the mud.

01:11:15.000 That's right.

01:11:16.000 And look, it's also revoking Reagan's greatest accomplishment.

01:11:22.000 Reagan ended the Cold War.

01:11:25.000 The Reagan-Gorbachev agreements ended the Cold War.

01:11:28.000 And by the way, you don't toot your horn, but you were a big part of that.

01:11:32.000 I had a role in it.

01:11:34.000 Yes.

01:11:36.000 So we now have the United States government repudiating its most popular president in a long, long time, and his greatest accomplishment, and a great accomplishment for humanity, because ending the Cold War greatly reduced the threat of nuclear annihilation of everybody.

01:11:56.000 And so now we're going to start it back up.

01:11:59.000 Which means that the whole notion of something going wrong, and the button getting pushed, and nuclear weapons going off, and as all the scientists have made clear... And it's gonna kill reforms in Russia.

01:12:11.000 It's gonna... It's gonna kill the whole world if something goes wrong.

01:12:17.000 You know, the scientists have made it clear that if 1% of the weapons in the American and Russian arsenal were used, there'd be a nuclear winner.

01:12:28.000 Billions of people would die of starvation.

01:12:32.000 The agriculture would be wiped out for 10 years.

01:12:37.000 The catastrophe, the potential catastrophe of starting up another military competition With another nuclear power, this is reckless beyond anybody's imagination.

01:12:50.000 And it's all being done so they can continue to steal money for taxpayers, give it to the military security complex to protect us against a hoax threat, and then the money cycles back to the politicians and campaign donations.

01:13:08.000 So, this shows a government that's just corrupt beyond any previous measure.

01:13:15.000 of corruption, and that they would put this type of risk on human life.

01:13:22.000 I mean, extinction is possible if these weapons go off.

01:13:26.000 So, I think that tells you just how bad the situation is, how low the leadership has sunk, and there's hardly really a word about it.

01:13:39.000 The Washington Post jumped all over Obama for not being aggressive enough.

01:13:45.000 For not sending troops into Syria.

01:13:50.000 For not sending NATO into the Ukraine.

01:13:54.000 We have to protect all these people.

01:13:56.000 Blah, blah.

01:13:57.000 It's really just mind-boggling.

01:14:01.000 I sometimes think that the whole country simply lost its head.

01:14:07.000 Well, what it is, is a bunch of different, as you said, special interests that would literally, you know, kill their grandma for a stick of bubblegum, who just are disconnected from reality.

01:14:17.000 They're not statesmen.

01:14:18.000 They've destroyed our soft power.

01:14:20.000 You know, they have... Obama says you built a business, you didn't build it.

01:14:24.000 2 plus 2 equals 5, they teach the kids in school.

01:14:28.000 This is a general insanity in the ruling class, in my view.

01:14:32.000 And I don't know where it goes, Dr. Roberts.

01:14:34.000 Well, I think it goes to collapse.

01:14:37.000 It goes to collapse and that's probably the best hope the country has because when it collapses the elites are all discredited and it gives us a chance to do something else if we're ready and aware and can get partially out of the matrix so that we can think.

01:14:59.000 Wow it's just incredible with all your experience and all the things you've been a part of hearing you say that but it's right there in our face I want to talk about the technicals on the economy, but also first Putin being boxed in.

01:15:09.000 We've only got a little bit of time now, but can you start getting into why I saw in your column at paulcraigroberts.org that you were getting into the fact that he's boxed in?

01:15:21.000 Yes, you see, Washington has no intention of letting the situation in the Ukraine be reconciled or be resolved.

01:15:31.000 They want to keep this conflict going because they've got Putin in a box.

01:15:38.000 If he steps in to protect the Russian speaking elements in Ukraine that are under attack, he will then confirm the demonization. 0.56

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01:16:04.000 And not just all these phony numbers.

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01:20:32.000 Well, he was number two at the Department of Treasury with Ronald Reagan, worked on the deal to get the Soviets to basically try to reform.

01:20:40.000 And in Russia it got a lot better in many ways.

01:20:41.000 I've talked to a lot of Russians, seen the numbers.

01:20:44.000 And now all this Western pressure is making him become authoritarian again.

01:20:48.000 Which is great for the special interest here, but Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is our guest, syndicated columnist, political analyst, economist, and I want to get into the economies, why he's really here today, but this Russia thing is so important.

01:21:00.000 So, start over, you got cut off by the break.

01:21:02.000 Putin's in a box.

01:21:04.000 You were saying part one is...

01:21:05.000 That if he defends the Russians that are 75% of the East or so, that are being ethnically cleansed, attacked with helicopters, being taken over, massacred, then he's invading Ukraine, that's always been part of Russia in that area. 0.80

01:21:18.000 But then if he doesn't do that, how's he boxed in?

01:21:22.000 Well, then he's undermined with the nationalists in Russia.

01:21:26.000 He's shown that he's weak.

01:21:28.000 He's not standing up for Russians. 1.00

01:21:30.000 He's intimidated by the Americans.

01:21:32.000 So he'll lose his hard support within Russia.

01:21:36.000 And what Washington will do, they will turn loose on him the hundreds of NGOs.

01:21:43.000 Within Russia, the Washington finances, and they will ally with the nationalists, the Russian nationalists, and they'll start making protests against Putin and he will lose support within Russia itself.

01:21:59.000 So either way, he's weakened.

01:22:01.000 The first part of the box, he's weakened with the Europeans that he hopes he'll be able to move away in part from from the Americans because of their energy dependence on Russia and their trade with Russia.

01:22:15.000 But if he doesn't fall into that part of the trap, the other part is he becomes a guy who failed to stand up for Russia, who gave in to the Americans, who's scared.

01:22:28.000 And the protests within Russia will undermine him.

01:22:30.000 So he's really in a difficult situation.

01:22:32.000 Exactly.

01:22:33.000 He gets more powerful if he makes the wrong decision and engages and threatens World War III with the ultra-nationalists who are ready for a war. 0.97

01:22:42.000 But I mean, can't they be sophisticated enough, the Russians aren't stupid, to understand the trap they're being put into?

01:22:47.000 Isn't there some third way for them to not give in to the George Soros operation that he bragged last week he's behind? 0.93

01:22:55.000 I think the NGOs are too numerous and too well-entrenched.

01:22:58.000 You know, Russia didn't do anything about them for 20 years.

01:23:03.000 And they're all through Russia, and a lot of the young professionals are really won over by American propaganda.

01:23:11.000 So I think he's in a difficult position.

01:23:13.000 I think what he should have done early was simply to step in, take back the Russian territories that were always part of Russia, and then deal with the remainder based on what happens.

01:23:26.000 But now he's fallen into this trap that the Americans sprung on him.

01:23:30.000 Whatever he does, he's going to lose one way or the other.

01:23:33.000 But Doc, when you say Americans, I'm an American, you're an American, I mean, I understand it is America technically doing this, and NATO, but I mean, it's special corporate interest.

01:23:46.000 Isn't there a way to differentiate so the public understands that it's criminal groups doing this?

01:23:51.000 Well, I always say Washington.

01:23:53.000 Yeah.

01:23:54.000 Because Washington is a creature of the private interest groups, you know, Wall Street, the military security complex, you know, agribusiness, energy, mining, timber.

01:24:07.000 So, I always say Washington.

01:24:09.000 If I say America, it's just a mistake, really.

01:24:12.000 No, no, I'm not even criticizing you for that, because it's true.

01:24:12.000 I shouldn't.

01:24:15.000 I feel bad being drug along by the hair with this, as you do, and seeing America that hadn't been perfect.

01:24:21.000 But, you know, I mean, back in the 50s and stuff, I mean, we were better than most other countries.

01:24:26.000 We were exceptional in many ways, from my view.

01:24:28.000 Now we're exceptionally evil.

01:24:31.000 I'm afraid so.

01:24:32.000 I'm afraid that's the case.

01:24:34.000 And, of course, though, We may be faced with substantial economic problems here.

01:24:42.000 Which may deter Washington from being able to carry out its anti-Russian strategy because the first quarter came in with the revisions, negative, as we all knew it was.

01:24:56.000 They tried to hide it with the initial release.

01:24:59.000 And most likely the second quarter will be.

01:25:02.000 Now they're claiming, oh, if the second quarter is going to be fine, the first quarter is just due to the weather.

01:25:08.000 But it's hard to see any growth in real consumer income, any growth in retail sales, real retail sales, any growth in consumer credit.

01:25:18.000 Except for student loans.

01:25:21.000 And so you don't see any kind of activity boosting the economy.

01:25:26.000 So I don't think there's any basis for the economy to do anything but sink.

01:25:32.000 If it sinks in the second quarter, then there's the specter of recession.

01:25:36.000 Because two negative quarters means recession.

01:25:41.000 And I don't think they'll be able to spend it.

01:25:44.000 And I don't know what policy they can use to combat it.

01:25:47.000 If they go back to more QE, to more quantitative easing, more money printing, this could put pressure on the dollar, especially with the announcement by China and Russia that they're going to be leaving the dollar system.

01:26:02.000 Not all at once, but they're going to be leaving it and settle their trade with other countries in their own currencies.

01:26:08.000 So more QE could cause holders of dollars to say, oh, no, here they are again, turning more money.

01:26:16.000 The goods and services aren't increasing.

01:26:19.000 That means the dollars we're holding are going down.

01:26:22.000 Let's get out of them.

01:26:23.000 So the United States could face a currency crisis on top of the sinking economy.

01:26:29.000 Now that would simply devastate its power and its ability to be an international bully, and therefore Putin could escape the trap.

01:26:41.000 And now they're trying to shift from doing gas deals in Europe to that big gas deal with the Chinese.

01:26:45.000 I know that's got the neocons upset.

01:26:47.000 And again, we got Obama and the neocons.

01:26:49.000 For those that don't know, Trotsky got run out by Stalin.

01:26:52.000 He ran down to Mexico.

01:26:54.000 But when he got killed, all his followers ran up here and set up the neocon, neoconservative movement.

01:27:00.000 These are literally the children of the Trotsky communists.

01:27:04.000 And they've always been anti-Russian after they got kicked out.

01:27:08.000 And I think, you're a bigger expert on this than I am, Doctor, but isn't that part of the... Russia's not doing anything to anybody, they're not expanding, they're just trying to hold on, and the establishment's trying to start a war with them.

01:27:20.000 I mean, is it just because the Trotskyite neocons hate Russians?

01:27:25.000 Well, they do hate Russians, just like the Poles, like Brzezinski hates them.

01:27:31.000 There's no doubt, you're right, that the neocons today are the children of people who were, at one point in their life, Trotskyists.

01:27:41.000 And so you do have this sort of... But it's more than that.

01:27:45.000 It's also the doctrines.

01:27:46.000 It's the Brzezinski Doctrine, the Wolfowitz Doctrine.

01:27:49.000 And those doctrines are that the United States, in order to remain the sole superpower, has to prevent the rise of Russia. 0.81

01:27:56.000 Pax Americana.

01:27:58.000 Well, it's Empire Americana.

01:28:02.000 And so they must prevent the rise of Russia. 0.96

01:28:05.000 And so whatever you can do to screw up Russia, do it. 0.83

01:28:09.000 Whatever.

01:28:10.000 But it's a global society that screws up Europe and then screws us up.

01:28:14.000 Also, the neocons can play God, and then you got Brzezinski running Obama, it's two peas in a pod.

01:28:19.000 How does your gut tell you it ends on that front and the economy?

01:28:22.000 Because, look, I'm in the supposed richest city in the country now, Boomtown, and most people I know are really having the most trouble of their lives.

01:28:29.000 So I know we're in a really a depression in many areas, and then they're saying, oh, we're a recession, despite all the QE Unlimited.

01:28:37.000 Yeah, I think the people in Washington have overreached.

01:28:41.000 China and Russia together is an impossible combination to prevail over. 1.00

01:28:47.000 So the notion that Obama expressed last Wednesday, I think it was, at West Point, that we are always going to prevail, we are the exceptional people, and that the military is our way of prevailing, this is unrealistic.

01:29:00.000 It's delusional.

01:29:01.000 Dr. Roberts, thank you for spending some of your Sunday with us.

01:29:04.000 We'll talk to you soon.

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01:33:14.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

01:33:18.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

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01:33:36.000 Thank you for joining us on this original June 1st, 2014 Sunday broadcast.

01:33:42.000 We're now into the two final segments and we've saved some of the most informative, thought-provoking information to the last.

01:33:49.000 And that is Dr. Steve Pchenik.

01:33:51.000 I won't go over his whole bio in the interest of time, but he co-authored a lot of books with Tom Clancy.

01:33:56.000 They've got a posthumously published book that he worked on with Clancy that is coming out as we speak.

01:34:02.000 We'll get Dr. Pchenik to mention that at the end because it's interesting and it ties into what's happening currently.

01:34:09.000 That's why people like Tom Clancy and Pchenik's books is because they accurately predict so much of what then unfolds.

01:34:16.000 But the reason I wanted to get him on is that he said back last year but then again in February on the nightly news here at Infowars.com that he thinks Snowden is a setup.

01:34:30.000 All I know is they don't want it known that the NSA is spying on everybody.

01:34:34.000 They don't want it known that this is happening and going on.

01:34:36.000 But if it's already going to come out, could he then become the authority, an avatar, as Pucinich called it, and be a limited hangout, basically, to then control the information?

01:34:47.000 Or could he work for big corporations like Google and Microsoft that are doing more spying than the NSA is doing?

01:34:52.000 And that's admitted.

01:34:54.000 I'm not saying I agree with Pchenik, but he did run psychological operations for the State Department, and he is a famous psych warfare guy in his own right.

01:35:02.000 He knows General Alexander.

01:35:04.000 I know he knows Clapper and people, so we're going to find out if it's his opinion he's saying that he thinks this is an elaborate operation with Snowden, or whether he has actual proof of that.

01:35:16.000 But first, I wanted to play a brief clip of Brian Williams on NBC, the reason we're having Pchenik back on.

01:35:22.000 Last week, he came out and said, oh, I was trained as a spy.

01:35:26.000 I worked for the CIA and NSA.

01:35:27.000 That's what Pachinik had said in multiple interviews, was that, you know, to quote Pachinik, he's more than just a technician, Alex.

01:35:35.000 Well, now he's saying that himself.

01:35:37.000 So here's Brian Williams with Snowden.

01:35:40.000 I was trained as a spy in sort of the traditional sense of the word, in that I lived and worked undercover, overseas, pretending to work in a job that I'm not, and even being assigned a name that was not mine.

01:35:55.000 But I am a technical specialist.

01:35:57.000 I am a technical expert.

01:35:59.000 That's enough!

01:36:00.000 The interview got a lot of attention.

01:36:01.000 I'm not going to replay the clips of Pchenik predicting that he would come out and say that.

01:36:05.000 We aired it last week on the show, but now we've got Pchenik on this Sunday.

01:36:09.000 Doc, we've only got this segment and the next, so let's condense it down.

01:36:12.000 Thanks for coming on the Sunday Show on short notice.

01:36:16.000 Break down why you said that, and why it's important, and what you say about his new comments.

01:36:23.000 I want to thank you very much, and I want to thank your audience.

01:36:25.000 The reason I said it is because I know the modus operandi of the CIA.

01:36:29.000 The very important thing that you have to understand about Snowden is that he is a manufacturer A product of the CIA or the military-industrial complex.

01:36:39.000 Why do I say that?

01:36:41.000 Number one, he followed the modus operandi of the predecessor, Daniel Ellsberg.

01:36:47.000 Both were so-called in the military.

01:36:49.000 Snowden failed the so-called special forces.

01:36:52.000 That's what he claimed.

01:36:54.000 He was never qualified.

01:36:56.000 Daniel Ellsberg was in military intelligence and worked at the State Department at the cover, but was really in the CIA working for General Lansdale.

01:37:04.000 That was 40 years ago.

01:37:06.000 Both came out in terms of a company that was not apparently affiliated with the military intelligence complex in the case.

01:37:15.000 Uh, Ellsberg, it was the RAND Corporation where I came in and I worked on the Soviet Union.

01:37:20.000 And in the case of Snowden, it was Booz Allen that received $6 billion from the CIA directly.

01:37:28.000 And the head of Booz Allen at the time that Snowden was in there was McKiernan, who was deputy director acting DCI of the CIA.

01:37:36.000 And now the head of it was McDonald.

01:37:38.000 Uh, who is a naval intelligence officer.

01:37:41.000 And so, James Clapper was in Booz Allen, as were many other CIA operatives.

01:37:47.000 And so, he came out of the CIA.

01:37:49.000 Born, bred out of the CIA. 0.94

01:37:52.000 What he said, and what he said specifically in this interview with Brian Williams, where Brian Williams was totally hacked by an operative.

01:37:59.000 Because if you listen to the words that Snowden said, he said very distinctly, I am a CIA spy.

01:38:05.000 I predicted that a year ago.

01:38:06.000 I predicted that on your show six months ago.

01:38:08.000 What does that really mean?

01:38:10.000 What that really means is that the CIA, Snowden in particular, is working with his handlers, who in particular is a man named John Brennan.

01:38:19.000 That's the one name that has not come out repeatedly in his conversation over his indictments.

01:38:25.000 What Snowden said was, I'm against people like Keith Alexander, and I happen to know Keith Alexander.

01:38:32.000 I like him, but that doesn't mean I justify that he had a massive surveillance of the American public.

01:38:38.000 But the two people that Snowden attacked were military officials.

01:38:42.000 One who was particularly very powerful, and that was Keith Ellis.

01:38:45.000 And that's what you said last year when no one was saying it.

01:38:48.000 You said it was part of a inner CIA Pentagon power struggle, which they now admit Benghazi's a big part of.

01:38:54.000 Exactly.

01:38:55.000 This is the extension of Benghazi and the CIA and the military fighting out for control of the military-industrial complex as it's evidenced by companies like SAIC, Booz Allen, MITRE, L3 Corporation.

01:39:08.000 This has nothing to do with the American public, the safety of the American public, the national security, or with the sanctity of our nation.

01:39:17.000 This has to do simply with the fact that the military industrial complex, particularly the intelligence corporation, could care less about our safety as does the military.

01:39:27.000 Because the military feels, and this is very painful for me to say, having been a Navy captain, that we do not have a nation anymore.

01:39:34.000 We have an army, but we do not have a nation.

01:39:36.000 We have an America, we have a country, but we do not have an army.

01:39:40.000 And the CIA, Military Intelligence, National Geospatial Agency, National Security Agency, It feels the same way.

01:39:47.000 They don't care about the protection and the national security of America.

01:39:51.000 They haven't really done anything to prevent terrorism, to protect us.

01:39:55.000 What they care about is one simple matter.

01:39:58.000 They want to game out the issue of who gets the most money in the military-industrial complex, particularly in intelligence.

01:40:05.000 That's why I could predict this matter.

01:40:07.000 It's not something I read in TV.

01:40:09.000 Alright, made up.

01:40:10.000 Keith Alexander is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful individual now in national security.

01:40:16.000 He acquired that power because contrary to what the CIA was 30 years ago, which was based on humans, which is what Snowden said very specifically, And Snowden was very proud of the fact that he was part of an intelligence gathering capacity where you don't have to go to college anymore.

01:40:32.000 And it's true. 0.56

01:40:33.000 You just have to be very proficient on the internet.

01:40:36.000 So people like Snowden were hired by the CIA.

01:40:39.000 Sure, sure.

01:40:40.000 through the National Security Agency, at the same time worked at the Defense Intelligence Agency because all of the other groups, including the CIA, are not as proficient as the National Security Agency.

01:40:51.000 - Sure, sure, and you've worked in the State Department, you know, but mainly from the Army angle, helping found Delta Force, and that's on record.

01:40:57.000 - Correct, I helped found Delta Force with Larry Eagle, I'm not going to tell full credit.

01:41:01.000 The reason we didn't have a Delta Force is because we had hostage negotiations 30 years ago.

01:41:06.000 I didn't have the counterpart to what the British had, the SAS.

01:41:10.000 And we needed a key force.

01:41:11.000 And that's why we nurtured, Larry Eagleburg and I nurtured Special Forces and Delta Force so that we could have a precision instrument to go in and strike out people.

01:41:20.000 Now we're about to go on a break.

01:41:21.000 I want to come back again into the bigger picture here and where this is all going.

01:41:26.000 What, for laymen, what is the point then in the warfare inside the establishment?

01:41:32.000 What is the point of Snowden then?

01:41:33.000 What's the objective?

01:41:34.000 The Snowden point is very simple.

01:41:36.000 More money for more intelligence that has nothing to do with the protection of the Republic.

01:41:42.000 The republic and America is irrelevant to the aggrandizement of private institutions that are affiliated with our intelligence community.

01:41:50.000 So the CIA grows bigger, more inefficient.

01:41:52.000 NSA grows bigger, more inefficient.

01:41:55.000 A defense intelligence agent grows bigger and inefficient.

01:41:58.000 And America is paying a very heavy price while we lose our capacity to really protect ourselves and to garner any sense of economic strength.

01:42:08.000 We are losing our capacity to be a viable republic.

01:42:12.000 Because our military and our intelligence system is sucking out the very marrow of our existence, which is money, servitude, loyalty, transparency.

01:42:22.000 Sure.

01:42:22.000 All right, well stay there.

01:42:23.000 We've got to go to break.

01:42:24.000 Dr. Steve Pachinick is our guest.

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01:42:30.000 But we're going to go to break here.

01:42:31.000 I remember seeing people like military professors like Thomas Barnett a decade ago on C-SPAN lecturing at the Naval War College in places, telling the generals and the admirals, we don't represent America, we represent Wall Street.

01:42:45.000 And when they say that, they mean a select inside group in Wall Street that are monopoly capitalists who are exempt from taxes, who lobby to raise our taxes to get corporate welfare.

01:42:56.000 I want to get Steve Pucinich's take on that statement, if he thinks it's accurate.

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01:47:29.000 Waging war on corruption.

01:47:32.000 It's Alex Jones.

01:47:34.000 It's the time of the season.

01:47:37.000 You know, I just gave a speech in Dallas.

01:47:40.000 There was a keynote speaker introducing T-Bone Pickens on the fact that only a moral society can be successful.

01:47:46.000 And I know that's an understatement.

01:47:48.000 People understand that.

01:47:49.000 But I'm saying the obvious, but we've lost touch of that.

01:47:54.000 There are a lot of smart people and resources in third world countries, but they just let bureaucracies take over in special interest. 1.00

01:47:59.000 And I want to get into what you're saying in a private email to me.

01:48:03.000 I want to get your full take on this, Dr. Pachinik.

01:48:06.000 Elliot Roger, from the Santa Monica shooting last week, that's been collectively blamed on white males and gun owners, even though half the people he purportedly killed, he used a knife on.

01:48:16.000 I want to get your take as a I'll go over it.

01:48:19.000 Remember, I told you Sandy Hook was a false flag and that came out to be true. 1.00

01:48:23.000 This one's a false flag too.

01:48:24.000 Well, I want to get into that in a moment, but finishing up with the whole point of Snowden and where this is going.

01:48:31.000 I mean, he seemed extremely confident, I would almost say arrogant in that interview with Brian Williams, like they're trying to rehab him to taking back to the country like Lee Harvey Oswald, who we know was a CIA operative and never joined the Russians.

01:48:46.000 You have to understand, Snowden, Klaus Snowden, doesn't mean anything.

01:48:49.000 Snowden is part of the game that the CIA and the intelligence community is playing off of the backdrop of America, Russia, and China.

01:48:57.000 You have to understand, Snowden just represents an institution which really has to take down a much more powerful institution like the National Security Agency and really wants to go in and create a narrative which is a false narrative.

01:49:13.000 What they want to do, Snowden and his So it's just like the FBI and CIA always want to make the other the bad guy.

01:49:19.000 You're saying it's CIA wanting to get all the blame off it onto the NSA.

01:49:23.000 Well, not only that.

01:49:24.000 They want to say it is good guys and bad guys.

01:49:26.000 The truth of the matter is this is not about bad guys and good guys.

01:49:29.000 This is about people who want to play games with the American public and taxpayers.

01:49:33.000 And all of them want to play games with the taxpayers because all of our military generals go back into SAC or Booz Allen.

01:49:41.000 They get six billion dollars from the CIA, James Clapper.

01:49:44.000 You got, you know, the same thing.

01:49:46.000 You have John Brennan, who's never been brought up on charges of illegal activities on 9-11.

01:49:51.000 Benghazi, he was accused in Benghazi, and I've said it repeatedly.

01:49:55.000 He's been accused of drone attacks, yet the FBI has never investigated him.

01:50:00.000 Secret Service has never investigated him.

01:50:02.000 ATF has never investigated him.

01:50:03.000 But it's the one man that Snowden doesn't want to mention.

01:50:06.000 And by that very absence in intelligence and counterintelligence, I can tell you that he's a handler.

01:50:11.000 And that the CIA is very much embedded in this kind of gaming that goes on.

01:50:16.000 And it's Eisenhower who said, they have created a legacy of ashes.

01:50:20.000 And it was Jimmy Carter, whom I served, who got rid of 4,000 operatives.

01:50:24.000 It's time now for America to say, it's enough with the CIA, enough with our intelligence community.

01:50:30.000 We're going to cut off funding in general.

01:50:32.000 And then we're going to bring in people who can really understand what is required Well, they've tripled the size of the CIA, they're operating domestically, and they've got their minions just running around everywhere.

01:50:43.000 They've had Homeland Security try to recruit every doctor my dad knows to spy on their patients and people, and when they get deeper enough into it, because he managed hundreds of doctors, he just retired, he dug into it and found out it's connected to the CIA.

01:50:58.000 What is the CIA doing trying to recruit every doctor and dentist?

01:51:03.000 It's again, it's self-aggrandizing.

01:51:04.000 What happened is, over 30 years in working in the State Department and overseeing the CIA in many opportunities, they have really been dysfunctional.

01:51:12.000 In the Soviet Union, in Thailand, I had to get rid of the station chief.

01:51:16.000 In Paris, I had to get rid of the station chief.

01:51:18.000 In Panama, I had to get rid of the station chief.

01:51:21.000 In Panama, I had to get rid of some of their operatives.

01:51:24.000 And basically what's happening, it's an organization that's so filled, and I not have anything against this religion.

01:51:30.000 Basically, Irish Catholic individuals.

01:51:33.000 You have Brennan, McTiernan, you have Donlan, you have Doyle, you have Keith Alexander, all of whom follow the catechism of hierarchy.

01:51:43.000 And with this type of ritualization that's instilled, and I have nothing against Catholics, My family's partly Catholic.

01:51:49.000 If you have embedded in the CIA a hierarchy which has this false notion that they have to follow orders irrespective of legality of the orders, John Brennan has to be called forth in front of a committee

01:52:03.000 Just as Colby was in front of a committee of independent prosecutors and testify about Benghazi, testify about 9-11, testify about the drone attacks, testify about Snowden, testify about who he knew, because the one name that does not come out is the very name that's involved in all of this, including McTiernan, who is acting head of the CIA.

01:52:26.000 What's happening is the aggrandizement and self-aggrandizement of intelligence communities at the expense of the Republic That is the expense of the American taxpayer is out of control, and it's destroying our nation.

01:52:39.000 We do not have more security because it's bigger.

01:52:42.000 We have less security because it's ineffective.

01:52:45.000 And the CIA wants to have the capacity that the NSA had in electronic surveillance, which didn't prove to be better.

01:52:52.000 It just proved to be bigger and more expensive and more deadly to our people.

01:52:56.000 Well, it sounds like a recipe for disaster to have 800,000 private contractors and more than 50 companies with access to all the super-secret spy hubs.

01:53:04.000 I mean, that just sounds like a way to be infiltrated by not just foreign governments, but every other corporation.

01:53:10.000 It sounds like a takedown plan of the country.

01:53:12.000 Well, it's not purposeful.

01:53:14.000 We're not that clever.

01:53:15.000 In other words, whenever you think that anybody's planning to take it down, whether it's the Council on Foreign Relations or anybody, nobody's that clever. 1.00

01:53:21.000 What it is is greed, self-aggrandizement, and stupidity. 0.98

01:53:25.000 And by the way, you've been pretty big on the CFR for a long time, but I know got out of it. 0.98

01:53:29.000 Well, it was a waste of my money and time, because what happened is you have every Flotsam and Jetsam.

01:53:34.000 It was really like a nursing home for those who weren't able to do anything, and a nursing home for a lot of neocon Jews who did terrible things in 9-11. 0.83

01:53:44.000 Richard Haass, Elliot Abrams, you had a whole bunch of them.

01:53:48.000 And Fife, who was still accountable, but they're sitting in the, uh, Yeah, I'm Jewish, but my aunt is Catholic.

01:53:55.000 I grew up in Cuba because the American liberal democracy didn't allow us in, thanks to Roosevelt.

01:53:59.000 - Steve, Steve, how would you describe yourself?

01:54:02.000 Because you're Jewish and Catholic, right? - Yeah, I'm Jewish, but my aunt is Catholic.

01:54:06.000 I grew up in Cuba because the American liberal democracy didn't allow us in, thanks to Roosevelt.

01:54:13.000 My whole family was exterminated by the Germans.

01:54:16.000 I grew up at the age of six.

01:54:18.000 I came to the United States.

01:54:19.000 Grew up on 108th Street in Amsterdam.

01:54:22.000 One of us went to Booker T. Washington, a black school.

01:54:25.000 It wasn't Obama.

01:54:26.000 Someday I want to get you on just about all your spy stories that you can talk about and how you helped.

01:54:30.000 The point is, I'm just an American citizen and I'm willing to work again for this country, put my life on the line again, say, look, No, I understand.

01:54:40.000 Let me get you on soon to do a whole discussion about this.

01:54:43.000 We've only got about three minutes left.

01:54:44.000 Briefly, what do you think really happened with the bizarre Santa Monica mass shooting?

01:54:48.000 Well, Santa Monica follows the entire protocol of Sandy Hook.

01:54:53.000 It's a false flag.

01:54:54.000 It's a liberal community.

01:54:55.000 It's tied into Susan Collins' Hunger Game.

01:54:57.000 You have a directive Hunger Game.

01:54:59.000 There's no such guy as Rogers. 0.99

01:55:01.000 You can't have a mentally ill kid killed.

01:55:03.000 Why the last three shootings have Hunger Games connections?

01:55:06.000 What's the point of that?

01:55:07.000 Susan Collins was writing that.

01:55:09.000 She was co-opted by the entire system to play out the scenario of anti-gun control, when in fact she was making money on the very notion of Hobbesian killing and people being atavistic.

01:55:23.000 She is very, very dangerous in this community of pro-anti-gun.

01:55:28.000 It's not an accident.

01:55:29.000 It's related to Susan Collins, who lives in Newtown.

01:55:32.000 Well, I was about to say, a lot of those movies are actually very, they act like they're pro, uh, you know, revolt against tyranny, but they're kind of Marxist. 1.00

01:55:39.000 They're basically stupid. 0.99

01:55:39.000 They're Marxist. 0.99

01:55:41.000 But what I'm saying is, this mental health kid cannot kill seven people, wound 13, and stab three. 0.98

01:55:47.000 It's impossible. 0.84

01:55:48.000 I ran a maximum security ward at St.

01:55:50.000 Elizabeth's Hospital where I had the criminally insane, and they can't write 140 pages and write a video about themselves.

01:55:56.000 So this is, again, A redux of Newtown, it's a tire false flag, and a Mr. Martinez who talks about craven politicians. 0.87

01:56:05.000 It's absurd! 0.55

01:56:05.000 I've never used that word, craven. 0.55

01:56:08.000 If you look it up cowardly, nobody talks about that in Greek.

01:56:11.000 So this is again a false flag.

01:56:13.000 And you have to go back to Obama, you have to go back to the FBI, you have to go back to Eric Holder.

01:56:18.000 Well the FBI, even the New York Times admits, out of 100 bombing plots, 99 were staged by the FBI.

01:56:24.000 That article came out a few years ago.

01:56:26.000 They have to be accountable again.

01:56:27.000 You have a new director and I want to know where is the ATF, Agency for Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, where's the FBI, where's Eric Holder, where's the subpoenas coming in for false flag.

01:56:39.000 It can't continue and the president has to be held accountable.

01:56:41.000 Well, I want to get you back on soon.

01:56:43.000 Tell us about the new book, posthumously, that you and Clancy worked up.

01:56:48.000 Well, I have two excellent writers, George Galderos and Steve Couch.

01:56:52.000 They're both specialists.

01:56:53.000 They were in the Navy Intelligence.

01:56:55.000 They work in Coronado Beach.

01:56:57.000 What we did was to create a scenario several years ago with Clancy and I about Syria and the importance of the fact that if Muslims were killing Christians, both in Syria and the Middle East, And how Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia were all in a cahoots, or playing off one another, and creating a civil war in Syria, where the Iranians were fighting Saudi Arabia, and where the American government got involved accidentally.

01:57:24.000 And it all ended up basically happening, it's out of the ashes, Dr. Steve McHenry?

01:57:28.000 It's out of the ashes, Tom Clancy's ops center, with George Galderosi and Dick Alright, thank you so much.

01:57:35.000 My pleasure.

01:57:35.000 Thank you for coming on.

01:57:36.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

01:57:37.000 Have a good rest of your weekend.

01:57:39.000 Okay, thank you so much.

01:57:40.000 There goes Dr. Steve McShannock.

01:57:42.000 That's it for me, your host Alex Jones.

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