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00:00:00.000 Coast to Coast, direct from Austin.

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00:00:20.000 You want answers?

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00:00:23.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:31.000 Welcome, welcome, welcome.

00:00:38.000 Welcome.

00:00:39.000 Today's date is September 16th, 2014.

00:00:42.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:46.000 We're going to be here live from 11 a.m.

00:00:50.000 just right now to 2 p.m.

00:00:51.000 Central.

00:00:52.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:00:53.000 I'm your host Rob Due.

00:00:54.000 It's a pleasure to be with you today.

00:00:55.000 We have a lot of big news coming up.

00:00:59.000 We're going to recap some Ebola news that if you were listening to the Sunday Show, I went over with Paul Joseph Watson, plus some new news.

00:01:08.000 We are now deploying troops to the area.

00:01:12.000 Of course, it's just for everybody's safety.

00:01:14.000 That's why you deploy troops to areas.

00:01:17.000 Like this to, uh, usually to take them over and grab people's resources.

00:01:21.000 But here we're going to be building hospitals.

00:01:23.000 We're going on humanitarian missions.

00:01:25.000 That's the mail-on-line US to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone.

00:01:31.000 That's going to be, we're going to get into that coming up.

00:01:35.000 At the bottom of this hour, we're going to premiere a video which is going viral on the Alex Jones channel right now.

00:01:42.000 And it's, when we send our crew, I have that up right there guys.

00:01:45.000 Y'all can pull that up.

00:01:47.000 For our 9-11 terror watch in New York City, we sent two of our reporters and a cameraman there.

00:01:52.000 9-11 firefighter blows WTC cover-up wide open.

00:01:57.000 This is an amazing interview with firefighter Rudy Dent.

00:02:02.000 And he was there.

00:02:03.000 He actually saw World Trade Center 7.

00:02:08.000 He saw the explosions before it collapsed.

00:02:11.000 And he got there after the towers collapsed.

00:02:13.000 So he wasn't really in, he was in the fog of war, but not so much as well.

00:02:19.000 You know, covered in World Trade Center dust.

00:02:20.000 He got there after it had happened.

00:02:22.000 That happened to be his day off.

00:02:24.000 He's got an amazing story.

00:02:26.000 And then in studio, we're going to have Leanne McAdoo and Joe Biggs talking about what they saw in New York City, all the different things.

00:02:35.000 They were covering a lot of different subjects, but mainly, you know, talking to the 9-11 folks that were there.

00:02:40.000 People still bringing it to the table, trying to wake people up.

00:02:45.000 And I think one of the amazing things during this interview, you see a lot of people in the background, and it really is the perfect picture of our society.

00:02:52.000 Haha, a lot of people just hanging out, taking photographs, you know, high-fiving.

00:02:59.000 And here's a guy talking about witnessing one of the worst false flag terror attacks that we've ever had.

00:03:06.000 In our country.

00:03:07.000 It basically brought us into two wars.

00:03:09.000 We've had, I think we've had our own lost decade of time where, you know, it seemed up till 9-11 we were making progress of waking people up to the left-right paradigm.

00:03:18.000 And after that, boy, it's, it's caught, you know, go to more wars, raise more taxes, have more government, fear the citizens.

00:03:29.000 That's what we've come to.

00:03:31.000 That's the place we're at now.

00:03:33.000 And we have senators saying that if we put any kind of restraints on the NSA, well, that's going to help ISIS. 0.94

00:03:41.000 And we have reports that ISIS may be down at the border, but the government's saying, no, that's not happening, even though we've had groups like Judicial Watch sue and get the documents saying they're concerned about ISIS at the border.

00:03:54.000 There's an article, Feds find 9-11 terror message on border fence.

00:03:58.000 And in the second hour, we're going to have Lord Christopher Mocton coming on, talking about the independence movement that's going on in Scotland.

00:04:07.000 What it means for the UK, what it means for all of us.

00:04:12.000 He's also going to be talking about the latest news in climate change.

00:04:16.000 There's an article on Drudge where Obama's going after a new coolant, because that is now the scourge.

00:04:24.000 It is really interesting how these control freaks, they always try to find one thing and go, this is the problem, this is the problem with everything, and if we stop this, we'll be okay.

00:04:33.000 But then, they want to grab something else, and something else, and then they control everything.

00:04:37.000 It's all about putting, they say, the camel's nose under the tent.

00:04:41.000 That's what we're dealing with right now.

00:04:43.000 So we've got a big show, and we're also going to take your calls in the third hour.

00:04:46.000 I'm excited.

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00:06:09.000 General, what do you think about the FBI saying that there's a terror alert on Monday about a potential forfeiture situation?

00:06:15.000 The police are shoving people, shoving Alex, shoving the crowd.

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00:08:06.000 I feel like this all the time, trying to politically awaken people that they're being lied to, that there's an agenda.

00:08:16.000 It's not left or right.

00:08:17.000 It's, hey, there's mind control going on.

00:08:20.000 The signal's broadcast 24 hours a day through all this media.

00:08:24.000 Just become aware of it, and they'll say, there's nothing going on.

00:08:26.000 And I want to say, put on these glasses or start chewing concrete.

00:08:30.000 They have taken the hearts and minds of our leaders. - It's true.

00:08:42.000 They have recruited the rich and the powerful!

00:08:44.000 And they have blinded us to the truth!

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00:09:01.000 An estimated 50 to 70 million Americans suffer from a sleep disorder or sleep deprivation.

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00:09:36.000 The gains have been substantial, both for ourselves and for you, the human power elite.

00:09:43.000 And for the first time in all of human history, Mankind is politically awakened.

00:09:57.000 That's a total new reality.

00:09:59.000 I've got one that can see.

00:10:02.000 We can't be the only ones who can see.

00:10:05.000 Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate sinister entity that's got at the root of all our problems.

00:10:15.000 It's a new morning in America.

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00:10:19.000 The old cynicism is gone.

00:10:22.000 We have faith in our leaders.

00:10:24.000 We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all.

00:10:29.000 It really boils down to our ability to accept.

00:10:32.000 We don't need pessimism.

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00:11:00.000 I'm just trying to warn you folks that television is a giant LED weapon system.

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00:11:11.000 They got a monkey farm in Bastrop, folks. 0.73

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00:11:38.000 What's the threat?

00:11:40.000 We all sell out every day.

00:11:42.000 Might as well be on the winning team. 1.00

00:11:44.000 The real men of the world have to stand up and say, I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. 0.99

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00:12:04.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:12:07.000 It's Alex Jones, coming to you live from the front lines of the InfoWar.

00:12:13.000 The Oscar winners give a press conference and how to buy a sailboat.

00:12:17.000 Of course.

00:12:18.000 Long live the republic.

00:12:20.000 Death to the new world.

00:12:22.000 We have a new world.

00:12:26.000 And if you were watching video of that on PrisonPlanet.tv or Infowars.com forward slash show for our free video stream, you would have seen all the graphics and video editing that went into that intro, which is kind of a takeoff of we took some great clips of They Live, part of an interview, that we which is kind of a takeoff of we took some great clips of They Live, part of And that's the kind of things we do here to wake people up.

00:12:50.000 The pop culture and interviews real stuff that goes along with it to try to wake people up and see that life is imitating art, art is imitating life.

00:13:00.000 It's one way we do it here at InfoWars.com.

00:13:03.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:13:05.000 Welcome.

00:13:06.000 We're going to be here live until 2 p.m.

00:13:09.000 Central, and we've got a great show lined up.

00:13:13.000 At the bottom of the hour, we're going to have Rudy Dent, an interview that we did in Times Square.

00:13:18.000 He was a firefighter who saw World Trade Center 7 explode and collapse.

00:13:24.000 He saw lots of explosions that he can't explain.

00:13:27.000 And he's asked questions.

00:13:28.000 And he's speaking out.

00:13:30.000 And he's not afraid that his pension's going to get taken away.

00:13:33.000 He's doing it because it's the right thing to do.

00:13:35.000 There's a story that we're also going to have Joe Biggs and Leigh-Anne McAdoo in here right after we air that interview, premiere it here live.

00:13:42.000 And they're going to talk about some things that they didn't put out in video.

00:13:46.000 They have police officers coming up to them telling them stuff.

00:13:48.000 Amazing stuff.

00:13:50.000 And really what it takes is people speaking out.

00:13:52.000 Because if you stand there on the sidelines and wait for someone else to do it, you're going to be waiting an awful long time.

00:14:00.000 The fact that you're recognizing that things are going wrong in this country and in the world means that you really have to start standing up and getting in the ballgame.

00:14:08.000 And if people criticize you, that's fine.

00:14:10.000 At least you're doing something.

00:14:11.000 At least you're not just sitting on the sidelines being a spectator or an armchair quarterback.

00:14:16.000 Get out and do something.

00:14:19.000 We have a video that we're going to go to later.

00:14:21.000 A guy went around asking people to support ISIS.

00:14:25.000 He was getting a petition.

00:14:28.000 And people signed it.

00:14:29.000 He had at least 11 signatures.

00:14:31.000 And he said some people wanted to beat him up.

00:14:33.000 Those are the awake people.

00:14:34.000 Those are the people that need to get in and do something.

00:14:36.000 But the people that were asleep, there was at least 11 people he talked to that signed a petition to support ISIS.

00:14:43.000 It's at George Mason University in Virginia.

00:14:43.000 There's a video right now.

00:14:47.000 And that's what it takes.

00:14:48.000 It takes people doing stuff like this.

00:14:51.000 We have to use their culture paradigms that they've given us, the YouTubes, the Facebooks, and inject messages of freedom and liberty and honesty and hard work and perseverance.

00:15:02.000 We need to inject those messages.

00:15:04.000 And health?

00:15:05.000 Health information that they're trying to hide from you?

00:15:07.000 There's a lot of health information out there that you probably don't know about.

00:15:13.000 Especially if you just stay in the medical model and go to your doctor and you're taking your prescription drugs.

00:15:19.000 There's ways to do it.

00:15:20.000 I haven't had a prescription drug eight years maybe.

00:15:25.000 Maybe one in between there for a... I had a really bad case of poison ivy and I had a steroid to take care of the itch.

00:15:34.000 That's about it.

00:15:35.000 I haven't had anything in a long time because I've decided to take and break away from the medical model, which also means you have to empower yourself and by empowering yourself that means you have to take responsibility.

00:15:47.000 So, I want to get into this Ebola news now.

00:15:51.000 MailOnline has an article, U.S.

00:15:53.000 to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone as Obama administration shuffles military's mission in Africa.

00:15:59.000 Yeah, there's no shuffling.

00:16:01.000 That's been the plan, which we talked to you about in Obama deception.

00:16:06.000 Webster Tarpley broke it down, how AFRICOM is going to go in, and that's the next place, and that's why we need a black president to go into Africa.

00:16:15.000 But what's really interesting is you go through this article and they talk to a Pentagon official, Mail Online did.

00:16:20.000 He says, combat soldiers and Marines will be on hand and ready for anything, said the official, who has knowledge of some but not all of the Ebola-related planning.

00:16:29.000 But hopefully it will be all logistics and hospital building.

00:16:32.000 The president has ordered us to help and we're eager to do it, he said.

00:16:35.000 Now it looks like we're going to be the lead dog and that's bound to make a lot of people nervous.

00:16:38.000 I wonder why?

00:16:39.000 And it's understandable.

00:16:41.000 But no one wants U.S.

00:16:43.000 personnel enforcing someone else's martial law if things go south and the entire region is at risk.

00:16:49.000 At that point, in a response like this, we would normally play a support role for USAID, and that's Soros-run, and the CDC, he said referring to U.S.

00:16:57.000 Agency of International Development and the Centers for Disease Control.

00:17:02.000 So we're sending troops there, possibly for a martial law scenario, which they have been training for under the guise of this zombie apocalypse.

00:17:09.000 There's a Christian Science Monitor article from 2012.

00:17:11.000 U.S.

00:17:13.000 military forces train for zombie apocalypse.

00:17:17.000 And Brad Barker, president of Halo Corp, says this is a really good exercise, not just some kind of costume party.

00:17:24.000 I think it's amazing that he's president of Halo Corp.

00:17:26.000 Why not just be the president of the Umbrella Corporation and get it over with?

00:17:30.000 Those of you who have watched Resident Evil will understand that.

00:17:34.000 Over the weekend there was an interesting article from the New York Times, an opinion piece called The Great Unraveling, just talking about how the systems are breaking down and this is all done by design to get us into other wars, open up the borders so you have different types of people coming in who aren't supposed to be coming into your country. 0.85

00:17:53.000 You've got these pandemics breaking out with Ebola, all kinds of stuff, really amazing stuff.

00:17:59.000 And we're going to play some special reports as well.

00:18:02.000 I want to go to one here coming up.

00:18:06.000 Let's see, do we still have time to play that one, guys?

00:18:09.000 Okay, we're going to play that in the next segment.

00:18:11.000 And that's about the 28 pages that are being kept classified of the 9-11 commissioner report, which is a whitewash in itself.

00:18:19.000 But there's 28 pages that they thought were too damning to release to the public.

00:18:23.000 We've got senators, we've got congressmen, we've got former 9-11 commissioners calling for this to be brought out into the open, for light to be shed on it, so we can all see what's going on.

00:18:32.000 Because we know the official story doesn't have a leg to stand on, especially when you start looking at it from an objective point of view, not from an hysterical, mind-control, mind-slave point of view of problem-reaction-solution.

00:18:46.000 When you take that out of the equation and you look at the fundamentals of who was in charge, who stood down, And all the other millions of smoking guns that come with 9-11, then you see that it is a fraud and the official story does not stand.

00:19:01.000 So we're going to get to that coming up in the break.

00:19:03.000 And I don't even think I'm going to come back.

00:19:04.000 We're just going to go right into that piece about the 28 pages.

00:19:07.000 And then when we come back at the bottom of the hour, we're going to have the Rudy Dent interview, which is an amazing interview.

00:19:14.000 I couldn't believe that this guy, you know, 14 years later, he's still passionate about the topic.

00:19:21.000 He mentions the three friends he lost.

00:19:23.000 I mean, this guy is really opening up and you need to get this interview.

00:19:26.000 It should have more than 225,000 views.

00:19:29.000 I mean, Spider Dog gets 70-something million views and it's literally a nothing video.

00:19:36.000 I mean, it's funny.

00:19:38.000 There's no cultural significance to that video other than it's funny.

00:19:43.000 We're going to be back with all that, plus we have Lord Mocton in the second hour, and in the third hour, we're going to have the William Benny Alex Jones interview.

00:19:51.000 An amazing interview.

00:19:52.000 You want to talk about a whistleblower, an NSA whistleblower?

00:19:54.000 He's one of the originals.

00:19:56.000 Way before Edward Stoughton decided to come out, there was William Benny.

00:20:00.000 We've got all that and more.

00:20:01.000 It's the Alex Jones Show.

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00:20:03.000 It's September 16, 2014.

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00:24:07.000 After the 9-11 attacks, the American public was told that al-Qaeda acted alone.

00:24:20.000 They told us that 9-11 was not state-sponsored terrorism, meaning no other country or government helped plan, finance, practice, and execute the complicated and well-orchestrated attack on our country.

00:24:36.000 We were led to believe it was perpetrated solely by Osama Bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda network of radical Muslim extremists.

00:24:45.000 The United States and its allies retaliated first by targeting Afghanistan, and then by launching the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

00:24:54.000 Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make.

00:25:01.000 Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.

00:25:07.000 But 13 years after September 11, 2001, there are still questions about who planned and financed 9-11.

00:25:15.000 And 28 censored pages of the official 9-11 report remain classified to this day as a matter of national security.

00:25:24.000 But many surviving family members of the victims and a growing number of the American public aren't buying the Bush administration's original claim that the documents must be kept secret to help investigators hunt down terrorists.

00:25:39.000 In fact, there's recently been a handful of lawmakers who have finally been able to get access to the protected 28 pages, and they are absolutely shocked at the level of foreign state involvement in the attacks.

00:25:54.000 This is sort of shocking when you read it.

00:25:55.000 As I read it, we all had our own experience.

00:25:58.000 I had to stop every couple pages and just sort of absorb and try to rearrange my understanding of history for the past 13 years and years leading up to that.

00:26:10.000 It challenges you to rethink everything.

00:26:13.000 And so, I think the whole country needs to go through that.

00:26:17.000 I want those documents declassified.

00:26:20.000 I'm embarrassed to be associated With a work product that is secret.

00:26:28.000 Now federal law forbids these guys to publicly identify which foreign entity was responsible in assisting the terrorist.

00:26:37.000 But judging by the long history of the Bush family's close and personal relationship with the Saudi royal family...

00:26:44.000 All evidence points to Saudi Arabia.

00:26:47.000 And now a bipartisan bill has been sponsored by Congressman Walter Jones and Stephen Lynch asking President Obama to release the classified records.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, well, don't hold your breath.

00:26:59.000 The new boss is the same as the old boss.

00:27:02.000 Former Senator Bob Graham, who co-chaired the Joint Senate House investigation into the September 11th attacks, he says, I am convinced that there was a direct line between at least some of the terrorists who carried out the September 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia.

00:27:19.000 He called it a smoking gun and went on to say the reason for this cover-up goes right up to the White House.

00:27:27.000 Meanwhile, the New York Post says the Saudis deny any role in 9-11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found incontrovertible evidence that Saudi government officials Not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom helped the hijackers both financially and logistically.

00:27:52.000 What do we know is in the 28 censored pages of the 9-11 report, people that have seen it said it would bring down the whole system.

00:27:59.000 I've met with and talked to multiple members of Congress who read it.

00:28:02.000 They are convinced the American people need to see it.

00:28:05.000 It has to do with information which is not convenient to the White House, either White House, the Clinton White House or the Bush White House.

00:28:11.000 And it has to do with an ally, who essentially looked the other way and allowed a lot of support for the terrorists who conducted the attack.

00:28:18.000 But just to be clear, this is what I've been told, that there was a cover-up, that Saudi Arabia was involved, and basically that's why there was a stand-down, because they didn't want to embarrass the Saudis, and that's why six of the ten commissioners want it released, is that right?

00:28:33.000 I can't confirm everything you just said, but I can confirm that Saudi is the name of the country which is being implicated, yes.

00:28:40.000 And do you think it's going to be released?

00:28:43.000 I'm working with a number of members of Congress and doing everything I can to help behind the scenes.

00:28:49.000 I hope that they do.

00:28:50.000 I know there's a coalition right now trying to get it released, Alex.

00:28:53.000 I hope they get it released.

00:28:54.000 That's right, you're working with Walter Jones of North Carolina and Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts.

00:29:00.000 That's correct, yes.

00:29:01.000 Well, you guys don't need to fly on any small planes, I'll tell you that.

00:29:06.000 That's true.

00:29:07.000 Wow.

00:29:08.000 So the question is, if members of the Saudi government did in fact help train and finance the hijackers, wouldn't that make 9-11 more than just an act of terrorism?

00:29:21.000 I mean, that would make it an act of war.

00:29:24.000 And I think we can all agree that the classified documents no longer, if ever, pose a risk to national security.

00:29:32.000 I guess you could say they do pose a risk to George W. So what are you afraid of, Bush?

00:29:38.000 Why don't you and Obama get together and release the documents?

00:29:42.000 After all, you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists.

00:29:47.000 Get that report out.

00:29:47.000 There you go.

00:29:48.000 It's Leader's Demand Release of Censored 28 Pages of 9-11 Report.

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00:33:37.000 We're about to go to an interview that was done at Times Square with a firefighter who saw Building 7 collapse into its own footprint and saw the explosions happen beforehand.

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00:35:59.000 Let's go now to this interview with Rudy Denton, 9-11 firefighter, blows WTC cover up a wide open.

00:36:07.000 I'm Leanne McAdoo with InfoWars.com reporting here from Times Square.

00:36:11.000 I am standing next to Rudy Dent.

00:36:13.000 He's a 32-year veteran of the New York City Fire Department.

00:36:16.000 He's worked as well with the New York City Police Department.

00:36:19.000 And you retired right after 9-11.

00:36:21.000 He was there on 9-11.

00:36:23.000 He saw World Trade Center Tower 7 come down.

00:36:27.000 Rudy, tell us about what happened that day.

00:36:28.000 Well, I was off that day and I received a call at home and I got to see both buildings come down on TV.

00:36:36.000 I jumped on my motorcycle.

00:36:38.000 I did about 120 miles an hour across the Tappan Zee.

00:36:41.000 I reported to my firehouse and then I got my gear.

00:36:46.000 A bunch of us got together.

00:36:48.000 We commandeered a mail truck and we made our way down to the site.

00:36:53.000 At that time, building 7 was still up.

00:36:58.000 I saw Building 7 come down.

00:37:02.000 My fellow firefighters who were there, they did that involuntary jerk when a loud explosion goes off.

00:37:08.000 You know, you can't help it.

00:37:10.000 And they did.

00:37:11.000 I'm a Vietnam veteran too, so I kind of didn't jump like they did.

00:37:17.000 It was, there was an explosion.

00:37:19.000 The building did come down in complete classical controlled demolition.

00:37:25.000 It came down on its own footprint.

00:37:27.000 There's no question about that.

00:37:29.000 As a matter of fact, Richard Gage from Architects and Engineers has completely handled that from his area of expertise.

00:37:38.000 Now we heard rumblings, things that the fire department was saying that they were overhearing Larry Silverstein talking about, talking to his insurance company of whether or not he should have the building pulled.

00:37:38.000 Okay.

00:37:51.000 In your professional opinion, was the building pulled?

00:37:55.000 Well, let me say this.

00:37:57.000 In the New York City Fire Department, as I said, I had 32 years there.

00:38:01.000 I was a chauffeur and I was also a trained fire marshal.

00:38:05.000 A fire marshal is considered an expert witness in court.

00:38:09.000 He's like a forensic detective.

00:38:12.000 He has the power to administer the oath, take testimony, and issue a subpoena.

00:38:15.000 That's a lot of power.

00:38:16.000 And he's a highly trained investigative person in his area of expertise in arson.

00:38:24.000 And we have no term that I know of that says pulling buildings.

00:38:30.000 That's not our area of expertise.

00:38:32.000 We've never done that.

00:38:34.000 We don't do that.

00:38:36.000 So, for him to say that, I don't know where he pulled that out of, but it's just not part of our operations, okay?

00:38:45.000 Right, so the fire department doesn't have the training to pull a building, to demo a building like that.

00:38:51.000 We're not trained to do that.

00:38:52.000 We've never done that in my 32 years.

00:38:55.000 I know of no evolution whatsoever that does that.

00:39:00.000 And then talk to me a little bit, obviously as a professional in the fire department for 30 plus years, they're saying that, blaming it on office fires, just a few office fires.

00:39:10.000 Well, if it wasn't so serious a situation, that would be completely laughable. 0.86

00:39:15.000 That is ridiculous. 0.53

00:39:17.000 First of all, our guys were up there. 0.96

00:39:19.000 They were calling for additional hand lines to mop up the isolated pockets of fire.

00:39:24.000 And let me just explain one thing.

00:39:27.000 Never in the history of a world, never in the history of high-rise skyscrapers has ever a skyscraper ever come down because of fire.

00:39:39.000 And I'm talking massive fire, and you know the reason why?

00:39:41.000 Because fire does not burn by itself hot enough to compromise and melt steel.

00:39:51.000 What we had in the World Trade Center, and I saw myself, was molten, lava-like pockets of molten steel.

00:40:00.000 Alright, I spent the night on the pile searching for bodies and I saw that with my own eyes.

00:40:08.000 So, who are you going to believe?

00:40:10.000 Are you going to believe a bunch of government bureaucrats or my fellow brothers, which I lost 343 guys that day?

00:40:18.000 And I lost Tommy O'Hagan, Bruce Van Hines and Kenny Kumpel.

00:40:23.000 And I can never forget that.

00:40:25.000 I think of that before I go to bed.

00:40:27.000 I think about it the first thing in the morning when I wake up.

00:40:30.000 And it's in honor of them and their family that I will continue to do everything I can to make the rest of the world wake up to the fact that this was a false flag operation.

00:40:45.000 Right.

00:40:46.000 And now, as you're out there with professionals who understand what it is that they're seeing, what were you all saying to each other when you're looking at this molten lava?

00:40:59.000 Well, we were overcome with grief, first of all.

00:41:01.000 We lost 343 guys.

00:41:03.000 We weren't talking about that.

00:41:05.000 If you look at the numerous videos, you'll see the guys bent over in incredible grief.

00:41:11.000 One of the things that we have in the fire department is an incredible brotherhood.

00:41:16.000 We do what we do, an aggressive interior attack, because we believe in each other.

00:41:20.000 We know that our guys will pull us out if we get into trouble.

00:41:24.000 And if we lose somebody, it's...

00:41:28.000 We're family.

00:41:29.000 We're very close.

00:41:31.000 We know each other's families.

00:41:33.000 We know each other's children.

00:41:34.000 And one of the things that I've been privy to is, you know, I'm proud of is that I see the New York City Fire Department is a calling.

00:41:43.000 It brings out the best in guys, you know, I mean, in men who put their lives on the line to save other people's lives.

00:41:51.000 New York City Fire Department is probably the least integrated of all The services, right?

00:41:57.000 When I first came into the firehouse, it was all heavy brogues and stuff. 1.00

00:42:00.000 But those same guys, I've seen them bent over giving mouth-to-mouth to little black children that they've just pulled out of a building. 0.68

00:42:09.000 And typically, when you die or when you cease to breathe, you throw up. 0.92

00:42:16.000 And they gave them mouth-to-mouth.

00:42:18.000 You know, I've seen incredible acts of heroes.

00:42:22.000 I love my fellow firefighters.

00:42:24.000 We love each other.

00:42:25.000 And I'm dedicated to exposing this false flag that took their lives.

00:42:30.000 What do your comrades say to you?

00:42:33.000 What do people say to you?

00:42:34.000 Because we've tried to talk to some people and of course, you know, they have to worry about their pension and things like that.

00:42:40.000 They cannot comment.

00:42:42.000 And I'm retired.

00:42:43.000 But while I was on, I was approached by the news and I deferred from commenting for two reasons.

00:42:50.000 First of all, I was at 1993, the first bombing.

00:42:55.000 And I saw that.

00:42:55.000 I stood shoulder to shoulder with the FBI while they forage for little paint chips.

00:43:00.000 And with their forensic science, they can take that paint chip and tell you the make and model of the vehicle that it belonged to.

00:43:08.000 All right?

00:43:10.000 And that was a bombing.

00:43:11.000 This was a bombing.

00:43:14.000 What did you think about them taking all of the debris away so quickly?

00:43:17.000 That was a crime in and of itself because the classical thing that any investigator is taught is protect the crime scene.

00:43:27.000 And NIST and the 9-11 Commission lie to the public. 1.00

00:43:32.000 I mean, you cannot be that stupid. 1.00

00:43:35.000 You cannot be that stupid. 1.00

00:43:37.000 In law, as a former police officer, every Crime or offense has a degree of mental culpability. 1.00

00:43:46.000 Either you knowingly, intentionally, recklessly, or negligently committed the act.

00:43:52.000 And the mere fact that There were obviously... The definition of a conspiracy is when two or more people acting in concert knowingly commit an offense or a crime.

00:44:07.000 Alright?

00:44:08.000 A misdemeanor or a felony.

00:44:10.000 An offense.

00:44:11.000 That is the definition of a conspiracy.

00:44:14.000 Was this a conspiracy?

00:44:15.000 Absolutely.

00:44:16.000 Yes it was.

00:44:17.000 And those people need to go to jail for treason.

00:44:23.000 Is there anything else that you want to say to anyone out there?

00:44:25.000 Anyone who might be wanting to come forward but they're scared?

00:44:28.000 I want to thank you because you're all we have.

00:44:32.000 Infowars, right?

00:44:34.000 An independent press to try to get the word out to the public, because the public is mesmerized by the mainstream media.

00:44:43.000 And let me give you my opinion of the mainstream media.

00:44:46.000 The mainstream media, their mission is to act as the most effective weapon of mass deception and public manipulation the world has ever seen. 0.93

00:44:59.000 And if you don't think that's so, Ask anyone any taboo question that the mainstream media frowns upon with its army of trusted celebrity prostitutes. 0.95

00:45:12.000 Alright?

00:45:14.000 And you will see a sadly predictable knee-jerk reactionary response from the public because that's what they've been trained to believe and trust in.

00:45:24.000 Alright?

00:45:25.000 Well, we are very glad that you took the time to speak with us to try and help break through that paradigm.

00:45:32.000 We see, you know, here it is.

00:45:33.000 It's very much like they live all around us with all this programming and just consistent programming with the ceremony.

00:45:39.000 And we're just so thankful that people like you aren't afraid to speak out, aren't afraid to be laughed at, aren't afraid to be, you know, your friends say, what are you doing, man?

00:45:47.000 Come on, you may be disrespectful.

00:45:50.000 I think times are telling because, as you know, my name is Rudy Dent.

00:45:55.000 I did an interview with Ludovsky and that interview got over 51,000 views and still climbing.

00:46:00.000 Ludovsky, yeah.

00:46:01.000 And that interview got over 51,000 views and still climbing.

00:46:06.000 It got over 1,500 likes.

00:46:10.000 And it only got 32 insults.

00:46:14.000 Right.

00:46:14.000 The people, they're ready for the truth.

00:46:17.000 And they can think, you know, 13 years, people are going to forget.

00:46:20.000 We will never forget.

00:46:21.000 We remember.

00:46:22.000 Remember this.

00:46:23.000 The Founding Fathers were up against impossible odds.

00:46:27.000 They were up against King George III, upon whose holdings the sun never set.

00:46:33.000 They were only 4%.

00:46:35.000 And look what happened.

00:46:36.000 Absolutely.

00:46:38.000 America.

00:46:39.000 Yep.

00:46:40.000 Thank you so much.

00:46:43.000 Well, Liam McAdoo reporting from Times Square, and there you have it.

00:46:46.000 The people are ready for truth.

00:46:48.000 It does not matter how many of these anniversaries go by, the truth will reveal itself in due time.

00:46:56.000 So are you ready for the truth out there?

00:46:58.000 Are you ready to actually look at the way things happen, listen to what eyewitnesses have said, watch the video evidence, Watch the news presentation from BBC where they're talking about the Building 7 falling, while they're standing in front of Building 7, and it hasn't fallen yet.

00:47:17.000 This is a crime.

00:47:20.000 Can you imagine what the world would be like if we didn't have 9-11?

00:47:22.000 If we weren't in these wars?

00:47:25.000 It'd be a totally different place.

00:47:28.000 Totally different.

00:47:29.000 We wouldn't have the NSA, the TSA.

00:47:30.000 We still have the NSA, but they wouldn't be as big.

00:47:34.000 You wouldn't have Homeland Security.

00:47:36.000 I mean, we wouldn't even be talking about Janet Napolitano and Jay Johnson and all these other people that want to leave the border open.

00:47:42.000 It would be a different world.

00:47:45.000 So joining us now, we have the nice young lady, Leigh Ann McAdoo, Joe Biggs, they were there in New York covering The 14th anniversary.

00:47:56.000 Guys, what are your impressions of what was going on in Ireland?

00:48:00.000 People are awake now and they're ready to accept the truth.

00:48:02.000 Don't you think?

00:48:04.000 One of the craziest things I thought...

00:48:07.000 You know, New York coined that phrase, never forget.

00:48:09.000 There was a lot of people out there who forgot that 9-11 was going on.

00:48:13.000 Well, you saw them in that interview.

00:48:14.000 They were walking back and forth looking for Batman to take pictures with.

00:48:16.000 Oh, they wanted to take pictures with heroes, because a hero to them is Superman, Spiderman, something like that.

00:48:21.000 Not a man like that who's willing to stand up against the grain and tell you the truth about what's really going on.

00:48:26.000 That guy should have had a million pictures taken of him.

00:48:28.000 Yes.

00:48:29.000 Exactly.

00:48:29.000 Yeah, people should have been lined up.

00:48:32.000 Saying, hey, you're a hero.

00:48:33.000 You're speaking out.

00:48:34.000 You're not concerned about your pension.

00:48:35.000 And you have a story about that.

00:48:37.000 You said a police officer came up to you.

00:48:39.000 Tell us that story.

00:48:40.000 Right when we first got to right outside the Ground Zero area where they had a lot of the truthers blocked off to be able to, you know, talk and protest.

00:48:49.000 I actually had a uniformed officer come up to me.

00:48:51.000 He goes, hey, Joe Biggs, can I talk to you?

00:48:53.000 And I'm sitting there first thing, like, all right, why does this cop know my name?

00:48:57.000 And he's like, hey, he's like, I can't be on record right now.

00:49:00.000 He's like, I'm two months away from retirement.

00:49:02.000 But I'm gonna tell you this, he's like, I was there.

00:49:04.000 I saw an explosion at the bottom of the second tower before it happened.

00:49:08.000 I saw debris shoot out right before everything happened.

00:49:12.000 And he says, I guarantee you that Plains did not just bring this down.

00:49:17.000 He's like, this was a planned event.

00:49:20.000 And how many more out there are like him, but they're afraid to come forward because they're worried about their pension.

00:49:25.000 Let me tell you, they take your pension anytime they want.

00:49:27.000 Right.

00:49:28.000 They're doing it in Detroit.

00:49:29.000 They're taking their everybody's got to take a haircut.

00:49:31.000 That's what they call it.

00:49:32.000 They call it a haircut when they steal money from, you know, it's so they're going to take your pension.

00:49:37.000 Whether you speak up or not.

00:49:38.000 Well, anybody in the government, all these government agencies now, border patrols, scared to come out and talk about the truth that they see.

00:49:44.000 Actually seeing Karams and stuff at the border. 0.55

00:49:46.000 They're afraid to speak to media because they're going to be threatened by the government, losing their jobs.

00:49:51.000 They'll threaten them with, hey, your family's not going to have any money, your kids aren't going to have the health care that we provide, all this stuff.

00:49:57.000 The links are going to...

00:49:57.000 It's crazy.

00:49:59.000 To suppress these people from speaking out about what really happens all the time with this corrupt government.

00:50:05.000 Because they're afraid of the truth.

00:50:06.000 Initially, if Rudy or others would have spoken out, people wouldn't, they weren't ready to hear what they had to say.

00:50:12.000 They would have immediately been ostracized.

00:50:14.000 Now some time has passed and he is able to speak out.

00:50:18.000 People are ready to hear the truth.

00:50:19.000 They've had years and years and years of evidence presented to them.

00:50:23.000 And that's one of the big issues that I have with people who just refuse to look at the evidence that they think they're so sophisticated.

00:50:29.000 Well, they're under psychological trauma.

00:50:31.000 quote-unquote truther, as if wanting the truth is a bad thing, should be a bad thing.

00:50:36.000 Well, they're under psychological trauma.

00:50:38.000 They've been beaten with this, the images of the buildings collapsing and the planes hitting the towers over and over again for 14 years now.

00:50:46.000 We're into two wars.

00:50:49.000 We're about to go into Africa to help them out with Ebola.

00:50:51.000 Right.

00:50:52.000 Sending troops to Africa to help with Ebola.

00:50:54.000 And what did I say last week while we were in New York?

00:50:56.000 Hold that.

00:50:56.000 We're going to come right back with you guys.

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00:54:22.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:54:24.000 It's the Alex Jones Show.

00:54:25.000 I'm your host Rob Dew.

00:54:27.000 Sitting over here is Shotgun.

00:54:28.000 I got Leanne McAdoo, reporter for InfoWars.com.

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00:54:41.000 And we're finishing up here with talking about New York and we started talking about Africa as we were going to break.

00:54:48.000 You like to talk about the slow progression of tyranny and what's going on in Africa now?

00:54:52.000 First we... Well, like I said last week when we were at Ground Zero when I was on the Alex Jones Show, I mentioned that how the government does stuff.

00:54:59.000 We use this humanitarian crisis.

00:55:03.000 Today the headline on Judge is humanitarian catastrophe in Africa.

00:55:06.000 So, What happens after there's a humanitarian crisis?

00:55:11.000 We send troops.

00:55:12.000 Now Obama is sending 3,000 troops.

00:55:14.000 What has Obama said that he will do?

00:55:16.000 To any American, he will detain them if they get Ebola.

00:55:20.000 So what's going to happen?

00:55:21.000 We send 3,000 Americans to Africa to help build these facilities, to house these Ebola patients.

00:55:27.000 Someone gets sick, it spreads, they're detained, they're kept there.

00:55:30.000 Then we have to build a bigger presence.

00:55:32.000 We have to send more people.

00:55:33.000 Next thing you know, we're sending thousands more troops To Africa and then Leanne brought up a good point about the Bilderberg agenda.

00:55:39.000 What was that?

00:55:40.000 Right, well this on this year's Bilderberg agenda Africa's challenges.

00:55:44.000 That was one of the big things that they were going to be discussing at Bilderberg was Africa's challenges as well as you know the future of the Middle East and so now we're seeing humanitarian crises that we've got to go and infiltrate these countries to help with these humanitarian crises in those particular areas.

00:56:00.000 Well, September 10th last year, a year ago from now, Obama, what did he do?

00:56:04.000 The eve of 9-11, he came out and said, hey, we need to fund the Free Syrian Army to help topple the Assad regime because there's a humanitarian crisis going on.

00:56:15.000 We're trying to get that war. 0.71

00:56:16.000 We need our next big war so we can move in those contracting groups and make billions of dollars for our country.

00:56:23.000 That's what it's all about at the end of the day.

00:56:25.000 Money and power and more land.

00:56:27.000 And now the ISIS moderates, all the rebel groups, their whole leadership has been decimated.

00:56:32.000 We're going to start making bombing runs into Syria, and if Assad dares look at our planes, we're going to start a war with him.

00:56:39.000 Well, powerful al-Qaeda branches in Yemen and North Africa called Tuesday for jihadists in Iraq and Syria to unite against a common threat from a U.S.-led coalition.

00:56:48.000 They are calling for everyone to come out there now.

00:56:50.000 And now we're going to Africa.

00:56:52.000 Yeah.

00:56:53.000 We've definitely created this mess and it all started with Saudi Arabia funding ISIS.

00:56:58.000 We're giving them weapons through Turkey. 0.96

00:57:00.000 I mean, and it just keeps going and going.

00:57:02.000 I mean, they're even running some of the bases out of Turkey.

00:57:05.000 And they're wanting to continue to arm the moderates that have been, they've been vetted and they're with us.

00:57:12.000 They're not with the terrorists.

00:57:13.000 Meanwhile, they just signed a non-aggression pact with ISIS.

00:57:17.000 Well, and they're giving, the weapons that we give them, they just give to ISIS. 0.53

00:57:20.000 They're laundering weapons through these countries.

00:57:22.000 We give it to one person, we know that group gives it to them, to the Free Syrian Army.

00:57:22.000 Exactly.

00:57:26.000 We know that the Free Syrian Army has said, hey, we've pled our allegiance to ISIS, and they were giving them weapons in mass numbers, and they're not even giving them the weapon, they're giving them bodies to back that, to help them out.

00:57:38.000 More money, that builds together.

00:57:40.000 When you bring them together, that's more money, and then they have a larger area that they can cover, and it makes it easier for them to move freely throughout the world.

00:57:48.000 And we've had plenty of training with Fast and Furious of arming people in Mexico with illegal gun and gun running.

00:57:54.000 So it's just one of the things we do.

00:57:56.000 We make a lot of guns and give them to people so then they can come and attack us.

00:58:00.000 That's the old problem, reaction, solution.

00:58:02.000 I think they want something here on American soil.

00:58:05.000 That's how they get that FEMA camp thing enacted. 1.00

00:58:07.000 Because we already saw how quick, I've said it before, in Ferguson we can go into that martial law state.

00:58:12.000 They want to have people scared.

00:58:14.000 They want people to feel like they need that government.

00:58:16.000 They need more police.

00:58:17.000 Like, look, if you don't have police, ICE is going to come in here and they're going to kill your family.

00:58:21.000 So you need us running up and down the streets with tanks, with MRAPs, with sniper rifles on top so you can be safe.

00:58:27.000 Meanwhile, we're losing every liberty we have right there.

00:58:30.000 But people will ignore that.

00:58:31.000 They won't even pay attention because they'll be so scared by this Frankenstein that the Obama administration has created.

00:58:38.000 Powerful stuff, guys.

00:58:39.000 We're gonna be back with more.

00:58:41.000 These guys are gonna join us for one more segment.

00:58:43.000 Leanne McAdoo, Joe Biggs, and then we have Lord Mocton via Skype.

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01:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:36.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:37.000 I'm your host, Rob Dew.

01:00:39.000 We're going to be live here for the next two hours.

01:00:43.000 And this is our last segment with Leigh-Anne McAdoo and Joe Biggs and then coming up next segment we're gonna have Lord Christopher Mocton via Skype talking about Scottish independence and the latest climate change fear-mongering that isn't working.

01:00:55.000 We've already got snow up in the north but hey guys the climate's changing anytime it changes we got to do something even though no matter what we do We couldn't spend enough money to change the climate and reverse any effects that were happening, most likely from the sun, through volcanoes, through natural processes.

01:01:14.000 The climate changes people all the time.

01:01:16.000 Whether we're here or not, it doesn't matter.

01:01:19.000 The climate will change.

01:01:20.000 It will continue to change.

01:01:22.000 Please, please stop with the climate change nonsense.

01:01:26.000 I know.

01:01:27.000 You're going to be on a watch list.

01:01:28.000 Yeah, I might.

01:01:30.000 Going back to Ebola and ISIS and everything else we've been talking about, you were just showing me an article that the Joint Chiefs have now approved U.S.

01:01:37.000 troops boots on the ground, whereas they said before it wasn't going to happen.

01:01:41.000 It was just going to be airstrikes, and now it's boots on the ground, then it's another base.

01:01:46.000 We're going to build a base right on the border of Syria to help out.

01:01:50.000 Well, this is what he said.

01:01:51.000 The top U.S.

01:01:52.000 military leader opened the door Tuesday to U.S.

01:01:54.000 troops on the ground in the fight against the Islamic State, testifying before Congress that he could recommend U.S.

01:02:01.000 military ground forces if the international coalition being formed proves ineffective against this group.

01:02:08.000 Right now, ISIS is doing what we want. 0.69

01:02:12.000 They're doing what The government needs them to do right now, help topple these different regimes that they want out of power so we can move in and bring in our laws and our stuff like that.

01:02:21.000 Once they get too big, see this is the thing, we have the biggest military there is.

01:02:25.000 We could take these guys out in a matter of days if we really wanted to.

01:02:29.000 We are letting the monster terrorize the villagers. 0.92

01:02:31.000 Yeah.

01:02:32.000 That's what we're doing. 0.88

01:02:33.000 And at some point we're going to come out with a secret weapon that will decapitate ISIS's regime and take them down.

01:02:40.000 And then, oh, well, now we have we have a power vacuum.

01:02:42.000 Now nobody's here.

01:02:43.000 Now we have to implant our own government because, well, the first time we tried it, it didn't work.

01:02:49.000 The second time we tried it, it didn't work.

01:02:51.000 And now maybe the tenth time we've tried it, regime change in the Middle East.

01:02:54.000 Maybe now it'll work.

01:02:55.000 It's not going to work.

01:02:56.000 I think it's ten times the charm, isn't it?

01:02:57.000 Isn't that how it goes?

01:02:59.000 Right, well just like they're wanting to allow them to attack the villagers there, it's the same thing that's going to be happening here at our border.

01:03:05.000 It's just a matter of time before they can make it work for them.

01:03:09.000 Currently, they don't want to talk about ISIS at the border because that is going to go against this whole immigration issue.

01:03:15.000 They want to downplay the terror.

01:03:18.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats are saying that opponents of the president are just trying to play up the concerns of terrorists.

01:03:23.000 They can say that he failed.

01:03:24.000 But it's all about this immigration.

01:03:26.000 I bet as soon as the election's over and everything, then they can start using this as a terror threat, too.

01:03:32.000 Well, that's when they're going to grant amnesty.

01:03:34.000 And then they're going to say, we don't really need a border anymore.

01:03:36.000 We're just going to let everybody in.

01:03:38.000 And we don't need the National Guard on the border.

01:03:40.000 Oh, that's fear-mongering.

01:03:41.000 They're going after the militia that's just trying to help and try to do the job of the government.

01:03:45.000 Yeah, the militia, these are hard-working Americans who have families, who are teachers, who are doctors, dentists, things like that, who are coming from, you know, inland, you know, from Michigan, Chicago, places like that, down to the border because they see a problem that the government neglects to take care of.

01:04:00.000 And what they're saying now is Texas police prepare to defend international bridges from militia groups.

01:04:06.000 People just trying to help what they're not able to do themselves.

01:04:09.000 And they, they follow the laws, they sit out there, they talk, they make themselves known, like, hey, we're just here to help.

01:04:15.000 You know, if we're interfering with anything, let me know.

01:04:17.000 They identify themselves and they still get fired upon by Border Patrol.

01:04:21.000 So Border Patrol is treating them hostile.

01:04:21.000 Yes.

01:04:24.000 And these guys... But there's still people coming across the border.

01:04:27.000 That's non-stop.

01:04:27.000 Oh, I know, exactly.

01:04:28.000 We're more worried about what's inside our bubble than the evil that's trying to penetrate our country.

01:04:35.000 They don't care about that.

01:04:36.000 We're the threat.

01:04:38.000 We're the ones that they're worried about.

01:04:39.000 We're the domestic terrorists, the returning vets. 1.00

01:04:42.000 We've got dictionaries.

01:04:43.000 We've got money from different countries, not Mexico, Chinese, Pakistani.

01:04:48.000 They're bringing these people in.

01:04:49.000 Rare rugs.

01:04:51.000 And we don't know who's coming through because we're not concerned about the border.

01:04:54.000 Guys, thanks for joining me.

01:04:55.000 We're going to be right back after this with Lord Christopher Mocton.

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01:08:20.000 Where's one of the slaves has a weapon? 0.98

01:08:24.000 Crazy! 0.99

01:08:25.000 I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones. 0.96

01:08:30.000 And yet out on a gumption without a presumption to know what's going on. 0.99

01:08:38.000 Then I can throw bananas at the global clowns and hear aristocratic moans. 0.99

01:08:44.000 I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones. 0.99

01:08:50.000 I went looking one day on the internet just to see what I could find. 0.91

01:08:55.000 When I heard this talk show maniac just proudly speak in his mind.

01:09:00.000 It was really wild but the more I heard it made a whole lot of sense to me.

01:09:05.000 I want to thank you Alex for opening my eyes and helping the blind to see. 0.90

01:09:11.000 I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones And yet have an abduction without a presumption to know what's going on Then I can throw bananas at the global clowns and hear aristocratic moans I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones

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01:09:50.000 Crazy like Alex Jones.

01:09:52.000 Some amazing stuff there is. 0.85

01:09:54.000 That's the Joker trying to take over that meme.

01:09:58.000 All the talking heads on the TV screen with an arrogant sophistication.

01:10:03.000 Talking about what's been going on around the world and here in our nation.

01:10:09.000 They all seem to turn like a pack of wolves when Alex goes on the air.

01:10:14.000 In spite of the facts, they launch their attacks and I just don't think it's fair. 0.97

01:10:19.000 I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones.

01:10:25.000 And yet have an adoption without a free assumption to know what's going on. 0.99

01:10:30.000 And I can throw bananas at the global clowns and hear aristocratic bones. 0.99

01:10:36.000 I want to be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones. 1.00

01:10:41.000 Yeah, I want to be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones. 0.97

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01:11:11.000 All you Democrats that hate the Patriot Act, and all you Democrats that hate the police state, you're certainly gonna love it!

01:11:18.000 And they do love it.

01:11:20.000 They love it.

01:11:21.000 They want the draft now.

01:11:22.000 The liberals are calling for the draft and to raise taxes to go fight ISIS.

01:11:27.000 Who knew that the liberals could be just as big a warmongers as the conservatives and the republicans.

01:11:34.000 That's why it's called the left-right paradigm because they're both controlled by the same puppet master.

01:11:39.000 That's right.

01:11:40.000 That was Robert Ownby, Crazy Like Alex Jones.

01:11:43.000 Our guest coming up now, Lord Christopher Mocton.

01:11:46.000 He was Special Advisor to Margaret Thatcher from 1982 to 1986.

01:11:50.000 Since then, he has been speaking out on a variety of topics, mainly global warming, climate change.

01:11:59.000 His website is called scienceandpublicpolicy.org.

01:12:03.000 And Lord Mocton is actually parachuted behind enemy lines to get the truth out.

01:12:09.000 There's footage of him jumping off of a plane and parachuting into a climate conference where they were trying not to let him in.

01:12:16.000 He was bound and determined to get in.

01:12:18.000 He's an amazing individual.

01:12:19.000 I've met him personally in D.C., interviewed him.

01:12:22.000 We put that interview out a few years ago.

01:12:24.000 In fact, there's the footage there.

01:12:26.000 He's about to jump out.

01:12:29.000 Let's bring him on in.

01:12:30.000 Lord Christopher Mockton, how are you doing today, sir?

01:12:33.000 Well, you won't get any aristocratic moans from me, I'll tell you that for sure.

01:12:37.000 You're going to need to change the song a little, I think.

01:12:40.000 Well, you know, here in the United States, we do kind of look down at aristocrats.

01:12:44.000 But you being a lord, you're one of the good guys.

01:12:47.000 And I think you're a rare breed. 1.00

01:12:50.000 Go ahead.

01:12:51.000 I say that's really kind of you.

01:12:53.000 I hope you're properly, as Alex always is when talking to me, on one knee, wearing white gloves, touching forelock, bowing low, and the correct form of address is as follows.

01:13:03.000 My lordship, would your lordship be so good as to allow me to address your lordship?

01:13:10.000 Then we get on just fine.

01:13:11.000 I will try not to look you in the eye, my lordship.

01:13:13.000 I'm very sorry, my lordship.

01:13:15.000 Please tell me where the United States is going wrong as a country.

01:13:20.000 Well, the United States needs to deal with the matter of Mr. Obama's birth certificate, for one thing.

01:13:29.000 You need to start finding a backbone in the GOP.

01:13:33.000 I want to see it fighting a lot harder.

01:13:36.000 I want it to find an intelligent, strong candidate, preferably from the Tea Party, to be the next President of the United States.

01:13:46.000 And I want to make sure that in the midterms you've got coming up now, you will return Well, let's just make sure it's the right people in the GOP.

01:14:04.000 And, you know, there's even some good liberals out there, I'll admit.

01:14:07.000 I think Dennis Kucinich was great.

01:14:10.000 I wish he was still around.

01:14:12.000 But, yeah, there's an article that came out today from Paul Joseph Watson, top lib, I'd lay money on Rand Paul being the next president.

01:14:19.000 There you go.

01:14:20.000 We could see it.

01:14:21.000 That would certainly change things up, wouldn't it?

01:14:23.000 Yeah, that would definitely shake some things up.

01:14:25.000 Hopefully it would change our stance on going into other countries and meddling in their business and sending troops all over the place.

01:14:32.000 Let's get right into Scottish independence.

01:14:34.000 I know you probably have a different opinion than us rabble-rousers here in the United States.

01:14:39.000 How do you feel about Scottish independence?

01:14:41.000 Are you a yay or a nay?

01:14:43.000 Well, I'm very definitely a nay. 0.93

01:14:46.000 We want to keep the United Kingdom united.

01:14:49.000 And I wanted to brief your boys on this, because, look, I know that Scottish John, or whoever he was, some numpty that you had on before, was trying to say that if you vote yes to Scottish independence, this will mean that there will be no such thing as a New World Order.

01:15:07.000 Well, let's be very clear.

01:15:09.000 The so-called Scottish, so-called nationalist, so-called party, That is behind this nonsensical bid for Scottish independence.

01:15:18.000 These are the people who would like to see the new world order.

01:15:23.000 These are people on the far left of British politics.

01:15:27.000 They used to be called, 30 years ago, the Tartan Tories.

01:15:31.000 Then they were taken over by Alex Salmond, and he has dragged them way to the far left.

01:15:37.000 He now has a bureaucratic centralist administration in Scotland.

01:15:42.000 His people have been going around intimidating those who disagree with him.

01:15:47.000 And when, for instance, the leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party, Nigel Farage, came to Scotland, first to Edinburgh, then to Aberdeen, in both places, Alex Salmond's bully boys were there to try and mob up the meeting and cause violence, and they've been doing this all over Scotland.

01:16:05.000 This is a dangerous party, and there is the reek of extremism about everything that it does.

01:16:13.000 And they do not believe in anything that the Alex Jones Show believes in.

01:16:18.000 They do not believe in freedom.

01:16:19.000 They do not believe in democracy.

01:16:21.000 They believe in simply belonging still to the European Union.

01:16:27.000 But there they're going to face a very interesting difficulty.

01:16:31.000 You see, if Scotland actually becomes separate from the United Kingdom, it also leaves, by that act, The European Union, because the United Kingdom is a member of the European Union.

01:16:42.000 You leave the United Kingdom, you leave the European Union.

01:16:46.000 Scotland would then have to reapply to join.

01:16:50.000 And it wouldn't qualify to join.

01:16:52.000 This hasn't even been said in the newspapers so far.

01:16:56.000 It hasn't come up in the debates, because the debates have been shallow and largely emotional.

01:17:01.000 And so what I wanted to do was to put across a few of the central facts.

01:17:06.000 And the first thing is Whatever else you're voting for, if you vote for independence on tomorrow, as it now is, you will not get independence because Alex Salmond wants to drag Scotland straight back into the European Union.

01:17:23.000 Which makes something like five laws in six for Scotland.

01:17:28.000 Now this is an extraordinary state of affairs.

01:17:32.000 You have somebody who is claiming to give the people independence.

01:17:36.000 What he's actually going to do as his first act is to try to enslave them once again to the European Union.

01:17:42.000 And that is going to fail.

01:17:44.000 The European Union is elected by no one.

01:17:47.000 It's a self-appointed Oligarchy, a tyranny by Clark, and that too doesn't believe in anything the Alex Jones Show believes in.

01:17:56.000 So anyone who listens to the Alex Jones Show, who is even thinking of voting yes to so-called independence, my first word for you is just don't.

01:18:07.000 Well, what about this?

01:18:09.000 Why are there so many people wanting independence in the first place?

01:18:13.000 Why do they feel like they're being handed a raw deal from Well, the first thing is, I don't think there are that many.

01:18:21.000 It's always convenient to the no campaign to have people think that the gap is a very narrow one, that perhaps even there might be a yes vote, because that will make sure that the no campaigners turn out in large numbers.

01:18:35.000 And really fight this nonsense and make sure their vote goes in the no box on the ballot paper.

01:18:41.000 But you see, when Alex Salmond tries to rejoin the European Union, you'll find he can't.

01:18:48.000 Because the financial situation of Scotland is dire.

01:18:53.000 And the only reason why Scotland prospers is for the very reason why it became joined to the United Kingdom in 1707 in the first place.

01:19:03.000 because it had invested in a boondoggle called the Darien Venture, rather like investing in climate change today.

01:19:11.000 It was a complete waste of money, and Scotland went bankrupt.

01:19:15.000 And the only way it could save itself from outright starvation right across the land was to join the United Kingdom, whereupon prosperity took off like a rocket.

01:19:25.000 And the great new town in Edinburgh was built, It's where I live at the moment.

01:19:31.000 A very elegant, neoclassical town.

01:19:33.000 A lot of money spent on building really charming buildings, some of the finest in the world.

01:19:37.000 Suddenly, Scotland was prosperous.

01:19:39.000 And it has remained prosperous throughout the last 300 years.

01:19:44.000 But those inward English subsidies to Scotland, once they go, Scotland is left with a black hole in its finances.

01:19:52.000 And the black hole is a big one.

01:19:54.000 It's equivalent to somewhere between eight Lord Mocton, Lord Mocton, I've got to stop you.

01:19:57.000 We're going to break.

01:19:59.000 I do want to say this.

01:19:59.000 They've been, the Scots have been wanting independence for an awful long time.

01:20:03.000 This isn't something new that has been going on.

01:20:05.000 So we're going to talk about that when we come right back.

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01:24:56.000 Lots of things going on.

01:24:56.000 During the break, I looked up a couple things.

01:24:59.000 There's a New York Times article out, many questions arise from Scottish independence vote.

01:25:04.000 And there are some questions.

01:25:06.000 It is run by a more leftist organization, which probably means more government.

01:25:12.000 Once an independence vote were to take place, also the per capita government spending is higher than the rest of Britain and Scotland.

01:25:21.000 It is.

01:25:21.000 So they spend more money than they take in.

01:25:24.000 They're sort of a welfare child state of England.

01:25:28.000 And in CNN World, UK party leaders promise Scotland new powers ahead of key independence votes.

01:25:34.000 So that's if they stay in They stay in the union, then they're going to get more power.

01:25:39.000 So maybe this is some kind of clan-ish type power play.

01:25:42.000 When I say clan, I don't mean like the KKK, what we have here.

01:25:45.000 I'm talking about the Scottish clans.

01:25:47.000 If you look back at Scottish history, a lot of it is based on these clan families coming together and fighting for independence, but also double-crossing each other in many instances.

01:25:55.000 So maybe this is just a power play.

01:25:57.000 Lord Mocton's our guest.

01:25:59.000 What do you think, when you look at the historical significance of Scotland wanting its independence from England?

01:26:06.000 And then what we have now, how is it different?

01:26:10.000 How is it different?

01:26:11.000 I guess that's my question.

01:26:12.000 Okay, let me begin just by finishing off where I was before the break.

01:26:16.000 Eight and thirteen percent of GDP, somewhere between those figures, that's how much the annual deficit of Scotland will be.

01:26:24.000 In other words, they're going to need a subsidy to the extent of one month in every twelve, roughly, that they're working.

01:26:31.000 And that is a very bad starting position for a supposedly independent new state.

01:26:38.000 Because, as you rightly say, it has become a sort of socialist nirvana, it's rather like a communist country in the percentage of the GDP that the enormous state sector has.

01:26:49.000 Because, for instance, one-fifth of the population, I kid you not, one in five of the population are collecting what is called disability benefit.

01:26:59.000 This is a nation which is a sick nation, it's a bankrupt nation if it stands on its own.

01:27:05.000 If it stands together with England, it's a strong nation.

01:27:08.000 So paradoxically, the historical national consciousness of Scotland, which was really created almost artificially and rather bloodily by Robert the Bruce, who was himself of English origin, The same kind of emotional nationalism now will cost Scotland very dear indeed.

01:27:29.000 Because Scotland is not in a financial position to stand on her own feet.

01:27:34.000 If I had really wanted independence for Scotland, and I had been Alex Salmond, then I would have worked very hard to make Scotland more prosperous and less dependent on subsidy than the rest of the United Kingdom.

01:27:48.000 I would have had a small government and not a large bloated government.

01:27:52.000 I would have tried to wean people gradually and responsibly off welfare so that they could stand on their own feet and not be dependent effectively at the moment on the English taxpayer.

01:28:04.000 And let me make this also plain to you.

01:28:06.000 It's a very important point on the finances here.

01:28:08.000 If in 2008, when the World Banking Crash happened, Scotland had been independent then, Then because of the Scottish Bank's very large exposure to this disaster, Scotland would have gone bankrupt overnight, and bankrupt to a degree worse even than in the Darien Venture 300 years ago, which led to independence because they had to join with England to survive financially in the first place.

01:28:34.000 Scotland is in no position to go independent.

01:28:38.000 If Scotland were to go independent, most of the financial sector would have to move out.

01:28:44.000 And for international legal reasons, most of Scotland's banks would have to get rid of almost all their capital assets in the shape of their loans.

01:28:53.000 They would no longer be able to have a large loan book.

01:28:56.000 So, the taxation which is now collected from the Scottish banks, which is quite large, would disappear.

01:29:01.000 The oil revenues, and this was always oil-fired nationalism, they are in rampant decline.

01:29:08.000 They will be stable at a very low level for the next five years.

01:29:11.000 They will then plummet again to almost nothing.

01:29:13.000 And yet, at the moment, the Scottish so-called government, as it likes to call itself, is trying to pretend there will be a far larger revenue from North Sea Oil than any independent analyst thinks realistic.

01:29:26.000 This is fantasy land on steroids.

01:29:29.000 So that I just wanted to get across.

01:29:31.000 Anyone who is thinking of voting for independence, you are voting for an annual cost per household Calculated by an independent economist for the Scottish Research Society, of which I'm secretary.

01:29:42.000 And you can go to scottishresearchsociety.com to read your report.

01:29:48.000 You will find that the cost per household... We're going to break, Lord Mocton.

01:29:52.000 We'll be right back.

01:29:53.000 We're going to let you finish up on that point, then we're going to talk about the global warming charade that's going on right now.

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01:33:29.000 Welcome back and we are live on this September 16, 2014 edition of the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:35.000 I'm your host Rob Due.

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01:33:46.000 If you'd like to see Lord Mocton on TV calling us from the UK where they have an important vote going on in just two days.

01:33:55.000 It's going to be Thursday.

01:33:57.000 The Scots will vote on whether they want to secede from the United Kingdom.

01:34:03.000 Last week we had Scottish John here in studio talking with Alex.

01:34:05.000 Now he thought it was a good thing and that would stop the New World Order.

01:34:09.000 Dead in its tracks.

01:34:11.000 Lord Mocton has a 180 degree opinion on that.

01:34:15.000 He doesn't believe in it.

01:34:16.000 But, you know, I'd like to look at this.

01:34:18.000 We have Catalonia, which is talking about going independent.

01:34:21.000 Texas has talked about it.

01:34:23.000 Northern California is talking about seceding from Southern California and creating a new state, actually, within the United States.

01:34:31.000 Some counties there in Northern California and in Southern Oregon.

01:34:35.000 So this is happening, and why is it happening?

01:34:37.000 People are kind of fed up with these giant centralized bureaucracies.

01:34:41.000 There's the article from the Guardian, Catalan MPs set to approve law on independence vote, and they had millions of people out in the streets marching for independence.

01:34:53.000 We saw Ireland basically kind of change its economy.

01:34:58.000 It was about 15 years ago they started getting into technology and they kind of changed the way their economy ran.

01:35:05.000 It's not the best in the world.

01:35:07.000 Could Scotland do this?

01:35:09.000 Could they revamp what they're doing now and make themselves prosperous if they were independent as opposed to being under the UK?

01:35:16.000 Lord Mocton, that's my question I propose to you.

01:35:19.000 Alright, well let's just finish off on the point I was on.

01:35:22.000 Each household will find that it has to pay an extra £3,500 to £5,500 a year.

01:35:30.000 That's about what?

01:35:32.000 $5,500 to $9,000 a year.

01:35:34.000 That's how much the cash cost of independence is going to be to each household in Scotland.

01:35:40.000 You took Ireland as an example there.

01:35:42.000 Let me answer that one for you.

01:35:44.000 Ireland is now one of the most indebted countries in the world.

01:35:49.000 It's hopelessly in debt.

01:35:51.000 It's seen its house prices plummet by 30 or 40 percent.

01:35:55.000 It's seen drastic cuts in the public sector to try and balance the books, and they're still not balanced.

01:36:00.000 That's certainly no example to Scotland.

01:36:03.000 And the romanticism which I share, you know, I love the history of Bonnie Prince Charlie coming from France to Takeover Scotland, which he succeeded in doing.

01:36:12.000 He went down to England as far south as Derby.

01:36:15.000 If only he'd had the courage to carry on.

01:36:17.000 The government in England, in London, was already planning to flee.

01:36:21.000 And he would have formed the government and united Scotland, but under a Scottish king.

01:36:26.000 It so nearly happened.

01:36:27.000 But you see, it didn't.

01:36:29.000 And in the end, Scotland at the moment is simply incapable of standing on her own feet economically.

01:36:35.000 But it isn't just economics.

01:36:37.000 If you go to page one of Macaulay's Great History of England, one of the finest works of literature in the English language, it's beautifully written, and it's also sharply observed.

01:36:48.000 And on page one he says this, that after centuries of warfare, Scotland was at length bound to England by indissoluble ties of interest and affection.

01:37:03.000 Because it's not just about the money.

01:37:04.000 It's not just about the fact that Scotland remains dependent on the United Kingdom financially.

01:37:10.000 It's also that this has been a very successful union by any standard.

01:37:16.000 The moment Scotland had been united with England, the British Empire began to form.

01:37:22.000 And for nearly 100 years, we found ourselves ruling a quarter of the globe.

01:37:27.000 The Pax Britannica was universal.

01:37:30.000 Britannia ruled the waves.

01:37:32.000 Britannia, not just England, but Scotland as well was part of that.

01:37:36.000 Scotland, as part of England, stands as part of one of the most Successful nations in international diplomacy to this day in the world.

01:37:46.000 Scotland, as part of the United Kingdom, is therefore much stronger and paradoxically more independent than she would be if she decided to throw all this away.

01:37:57.000 And I was talking to the train guard on the train from Edinburgh to Dundee the other day, and I had a lot of copies of the economic assessment that Ewan Stewart has done for the Scottish Research Society dot com.

01:38:11.000 And I was showing this to him.

01:38:13.000 And he said, well, I'm voting for independence.

01:38:15.000 I'm voting on the basis of emotion.

01:38:18.000 I'm voting with my heart, he said.

01:38:20.000 And I said, look, I never tell anybody not to vote with their heart.

01:38:24.000 What I would say to you is it might be worth your while just to count the cost first so that you can decide whether it makes any sense to vote with your heart.

01:38:34.000 So I gave him a copy of the 64-page economic analysis we'd had done.

01:38:38.000 I said, even if you only read the first paragraph, it'll summarise the main points there.

01:38:43.000 The first three pages go into it in more detail.

01:38:45.000 Then you can look at 64 pages.

01:38:47.000 Every individual topic is covered.

01:38:50.000 What is Scotland's currency going to be?

01:38:52.000 At the moment, Alex Salmond has given up the idea of independence in terms of issuing his currency.

01:38:58.000 He said, oh, we'll let Britain do that.

01:39:00.000 But if Scotland wants to use Britain's currency, but Scotland isn't part of a currency union with Britain, then Scotland will not have a seat at the table at the Bank of England, as it does now, to form the monetary policy of Britain.

01:39:14.000 So it will not, in this very crucial extent, it won't be independent at all, just as it won't be independent if it rejoins the European Union.

01:39:22.000 Just as it won't be independent if it continues to run an enormous financial deficit, and it will eventually be in hock to the people to whom it owes money.

01:39:31.000 There's no way that a vote for independence on Thursday will actually give you independence, even if the vote is yes.

01:39:39.000 So why not vote no?

01:39:41.000 Stand by the Union, not only for practical reasons, but also for reasons of affection.

01:39:48.000 Of course we have this love-hate relationship between Scotland and England, largely maintained these days by sporting contests of one kind or another, particularly the rugby, at which, alas, Scotland hasn't been doing too well recently.

01:40:00.000 But it is really absurd for anyone to think that Scotland is going to be a strong and prosperous and independent nation if it goes independent.

01:40:10.000 So let us hope that everybody will have the common sense And that would be a very interesting prospect.

01:40:16.000 ludicrous proposal down and therefore to prevent what would effectively be the entrenchment of something not in economic terms different from communism all over Scotland and that would be a very interesting prospect a communist country openly time if they were to become openly communist right in the middle of Europe Although you could say a lot of Europe is communist or socialist to one degree or another.

01:40:43.000 That's one way of looking at it.

01:40:45.000 Where can you find your report, your 64 page report?

01:40:48.000 Yes, what you do is you go to scottishresearchsociety.com.

01:40:56.000 You go on there, you'll find a lot of news and facts about the independence referendum.

01:41:01.000 You'll find several reports by us, but the most important one is this economic assessment.

01:41:06.000 This is the assessment the Scottish so-called government should have done.

01:41:10.000 This is the assessment the United Kingdom government should have done.

01:41:13.000 If it had done that assessment early enough, then nobody would have even dreamt of continuing with the idea of having a referendum on independence.

01:41:20.000 They would have realised the game was up.

01:41:22.000 It simply can't be afforded, and the damage to Scotland would be enormous.

01:41:27.000 You see, the structure, the government structure that has already been put in place by Alex Salmond is a bureaucratic centralist, heavily expensive.

01:41:36.000 The state owns everything.

01:41:38.000 The state nationalizes the land.

01:41:39.000 The state grasps all the businesses.

01:41:41.000 The state centralizes the police.

01:41:43.000 We no longer have police forces in each county.

01:41:45.000 We now have a single national police force, just as they used to do in the Soviet Union.

01:41:51.000 Hear me out, hear me out real quick.

01:41:52.000 What if they, if they do vote for independence and then they do collapse under their own weight of a bureaucracy and then they decide they have to change, wouldn't that be an example for the world?

01:42:02.000 Saying that, look, communism and big government doesn't work.

01:42:05.000 You have to give people control over their own lives.

01:42:08.000 Isn't that what these people just want in the end?

01:42:10.000 And what if that happens?

01:42:12.000 You know, this guy just came into power.

01:42:13.000 Who's to say he can't be voted out of power?

01:42:15.000 Maybe I'm an idealist, I don't know, but... Well, here's the thing.

01:42:18.000 I can see the value to the rest of the world of learning that lesson, but I do not want to see the damage to Scotland that would happen in the meantime. 0.88

01:42:26.000 The fact is, this is really a crazy proposal by crazy people.

01:42:30.000 You see, Alex Salmond has never had to take governmental responsibility.

01:42:35.000 Because, at one level, he's part of the EU, so most of his laws are made by the EU.

01:42:41.000 And the Daft Wee Parliament at Holyrood is merely a rubber stamp.

01:42:45.000 And most of his money comes not from his own taxpayers, who contribute less per head than most of the United Kingdom, but from London.

01:42:54.000 So he's not independent and will not be independent after independence.

01:42:58.000 As I've just said, there's no way that Scotland, with anything like its present government system, can afford to stand on its own two feet.

01:43:06.000 So here is what's going to have to happen if Scotland votes for independence.

01:43:10.000 Most people, and I mean most people, whose primary livelihood comes from the state will either have that livelihood substantially cut, and I mean a cut of something like 10 to 20 percent, or they will lose their jobs altogether.

01:43:28.000 If you think you're going to sit there, paid by the state, when Scotland becomes independent, whether you're paid to work, or paid through a state pension, or paid through a civil service pension, or paid through benefits, or disability benefits, or getting free healthcare, all of those things you will no longer get to the same degree, or anything like the same degree, but you get them now.

01:43:51.000 And everyone who has looked at the economics of Scotland has come to the same conclusion.

01:43:57.000 If you think I'm making up a scarce story to try to terrify people into voting no, no I'm not.

01:44:04.000 The independent assessment of Ewan Stewart, available at scottishresearchsociety.com, makes it entirely clear how insane, and that's the word that he privately used to me, so I won't put that in the document, but this is the most insane He said, in a way, I really didn't like to do it.

01:44:25.000 He said, I'm a Scot.

01:44:26.000 I love Scotland.

01:44:28.000 I really don't want to see this happen.

01:44:30.000 And that is the view of all of us at the Scottish Research Society.

01:44:33.000 So do go to scottishresearchsociety.com and find this out for yourselves.

01:44:38.000 We must keep Scotland part of the United Kingdom because otherwise there will be effectively yet another communist country. 0.95

01:44:45.000 It won't be called communist, but that is how it will run its economy.

01:44:49.000 Heavily centralised, heavily based on the state, private sector nowhere, massive taxation, nationalisation of land.

01:44:56.000 They're already doing that.

01:44:58.000 It's about the only country in Europe where nationalisation of land is actually taking place as we speak.

01:45:05.000 I bet you haven't seen that in any of the newspapers.

01:45:08.000 But that's what's going on.

01:45:10.000 And if that continues under independence, it will accelerate.

01:45:13.000 So if you own your house or you own a patch of land, however small, in no time at all, It will be absorbed by the evil Scots who want independence. 1.00

01:45:22.000 We got Lord Christopher Mocton as our guest.

01:45:24.000 He agrees with David Cameron who is also begging the Scots not to leave the UK.

01:45:30.000 We've got a little bit more time.

01:45:31.000 I do want to switch to climate change news because that is where you are also an expert on.

01:45:35.000 It seems anything you get into you become an amazing expert and an eloquent speaker on the topic.

01:45:42.000 I want to go... Obama is going after a new coolant.

01:45:46.000 And also we've seen this evidence of there is no, hasn't been any climate change.

01:45:50.000 We're actually cooling down, at least we haven't been warming up.

01:45:53.000 What is the latest in the climate change news?

01:45:57.000 What's the latest in the news there?

01:45:59.000 First of all, if you are in high school, however senior you are, you will never have lived under global warming.

01:46:07.000 There has been no global warming now, believe it or not, for just on 18 years.

01:46:14.000 And this is the, according to the RSS, that's Remote Sensing Systems Satellite Monthly Dataset, which I analyze every month.

01:46:23.000 And you can go to whatsupwiththat.com or you can go to climatedepot.com or you can go to scienceandpublicpolicy.org and you can find these regular monthly assessments of the temperature record.

01:46:36.000 And it now shows a zero least squares linear regression trend.

01:46:41.000 And that's a way of processing the data to establish which way it's heading.

01:46:45.000 And so far, for the last 18 years now, there has been no global warming at all.

01:46:52.000 Zero.

01:46:53.000 Zat nada. 0.80

01:46:54.000 Zilch.

01:46:54.000 Zip.

01:46:55.000 But that's because we've put up a ton of windmills and solar panels, right?

01:47:00.000 If only.

01:47:01.000 They have made no difference to the amount of carbon dioxide being emitted to the atmosphere, which is continuing to rise.

01:47:08.000 And that's the startling thing.

01:47:09.000 The carbon dioxide is rising at rapid and record levels, according to the United Nations, and according to the record, for instance, at your own Mauna Loa research station.

01:47:18.000 And yet, despite that record rise in the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere, which is what's supposed to be causing all this warming, the warming is not happening.

01:47:28.000 And I got a professor of physics onto me the other day.

01:47:31.000 He said, have they even got the basic science of how much of a radiative effect CO2 in the atmosphere has?

01:47:40.000 Have they got any evidence based on observation and measurement?

01:47:44.000 of what that value should be.

01:47:47.000 And I said, "Yes, I thought I did." A professor had told me that he had done the original research on this.

01:47:52.000 And I put the professor in touch with the other professor who said, "Actually, no, I didn't do it observationally.

01:47:57.000 I did it by yet another computer model." So all of this scare comes out of computer models which turn out in just about every material respect to be wrong.

01:48:08.000 In fact, the rate of global warming since the UN's climate panel produced the first of its five-leden, multi-thousand-page assessment reports in 1990, 25 years ago.

01:48:21.000 The rate of global warming since then is exactly half of what was then predicted with substantial confidence.

01:48:28.000 Well, that substantial confidence was substantially misplaced.

01:48:32.000 And these are the people, having got every single forecast wrong, who are trying to tell us we must shut down the West in the name of saving the planet.

01:48:40.000 But of course this Alex Jones listeners know perfectly well that we don't need to save the planet because the planet was triumphantly saved 2,000 years ago and it doesn't need to be saved again.

01:48:52.000 I would totally agree with you.

01:48:53.000 Yeah, the planet will take care of itself.

01:48:56.000 We need to take care of what we do.

01:48:58.000 And we need to stop, I think, funding wars, maybe taking deadly pathogens and mixing them with deadly flus and see if they can come together and then losing them.

01:49:07.000 I mean, there's a whole host of issues we could keep control of that we're not keeping control of.

01:49:12.000 But let me tell you, the climate is not one of them.

01:49:14.000 Because why?

01:49:15.000 We cannot control the sun, no matter how much we think we can.

01:49:18.000 We cannot control the amount of energy that the sun puts out, and when those levels go up and down, that is what changes our climate.

01:49:25.000 It's volcanic activity.

01:49:26.000 We're not plugging up any volcanoes.

01:49:28.000 There's not enough concrete in the world to plug up volcanoes.

01:49:30.000 And it just can't be done.

01:49:31.000 Those are the types of things we would have to do to stop climate change.

01:49:36.000 It would cost too much money to do any of that anyway, and we're not even warming.

01:49:40.000 So I thought that was what the scare was, that we were warming up, and that's not happening.

01:49:45.000 We're going to come back in a short segment.

01:49:47.000 I just want to remind everybody, next hour we're going to have an Alex Jones and William Biddy interview.

01:49:53.000 This is a premier NSA whistleblower.

01:49:56.000 This guy was an NSA whistleblower when Snowden was in college.

01:50:00.000 So he's been around the block.

01:50:02.000 We've had plenty of NSA whistleblowers on here before Snowden.

01:50:05.000 Snowden just gave us names and dates to things that we already knew were happening.

01:50:11.000 But I want to ask you a quick question, and I'll probably let you answer this when we get back from the break.

01:50:15.000 Nigel Farage was on Neil Cavuto's show last week, and he recently said that because of this ISIS problem, we're going to have to give up our liberty For security.

01:50:25.000 He was channeling a bizarro Ben Franklin saying something exactly opposite of what Ben Franklin said.

01:50:31.000 And we've also had Senators come out like Patrick Leahy and say, if we stop the NSA from spying on people, it's only going to help ISIS, yet we leave our southern border wide open.

01:50:41.000 I'm going to let you answer that question when we come back and cover anything else you want to in that last segment.

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01:54:50.000 Right now we have Lord Mocton for this final segment.

01:54:53.000 And I was just listening to the ad about the water filtration as we came out of break.

01:54:58.000 And when I met Lord Mocton, he was in person in DC.

01:55:01.000 He was telling me how he has his water filtration system set up.

01:55:05.000 Lord Mocton, why don't you tell us about that?

01:55:06.000 And then I want you to get into what Nigel Farage said about that we have to give up our liberty for security.

01:55:11.000 Yes, certainly.

01:55:12.000 Let's talk about the water very briefly.

01:55:14.000 I mean, we get our water on our estate in the Highlands from a natural lake.

01:55:20.000 It's Loch Rannoch.

01:55:21.000 It's actually bacteriologically pure most of the time, but occasionally pollutants get in, mostly from animals round about.

01:55:29.000 And so we run our Water, first of all, through a double sand filter.

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01:55:54.000 And nobody's died yet, so we think it's working rather well.

01:55:58.000 There you go.

01:55:59.000 That's independence for you right there.

01:56:01.000 Even in Scotland, even by not wanting Scottish independence, you're being independent by filtering your own water, not depending on the state to bring it to you.

01:56:08.000 Now let's finish up with Nigel Farage.

01:56:10.000 Do you believe we should give up our liberty for security in the threat of ISIS, a group that we're actually funding?

01:56:17.000 No, I don't think we should give up our liberty.

01:56:19.000 What is the point of giving up our liberty for the sake of liberty?

01:56:23.000 That's not how it works.

01:56:25.000 What we do need to do is deal with one outstanding problem which has been left on one side by the West for reasons of political correctness.

01:56:35.000 That is that the Quran contains passages which are illegal at United States law, at UK law, and also at Australian law.

01:56:44.000 I'm in Australia at the moment.

01:56:46.000 And each of those laws, we have a provision that says that incitement to murder is a serious imprisonable offence. 0.89

01:56:54.000 There are several passages in the Quran, they are known as the sword verses, they've long been known to be a problem, which is why they've even been given their own name, which recommend that Muslims should kill those who do not believe in Islam.

01:57:10.000 And you see how easy it is for an imam in the mosque to get hold of impressionable youngsters Read these passages to them and say, look, the Prophet Muhammad in his holy book says you've got to go and kill the unbeliever. 0.96

01:57:25.000 And that's how they are succeeding in radicalizing each other.

01:57:28.000 So what do we do about this?

01:57:29.000 We're not in the business of banning books either.

01:57:32.000 What I think we need to do is to require that all copies of the Quran contain a warning That if anyone reads any of these sword verses out loud, then they could be prosecuted for incitement to murder and locked up for a very long time.

01:57:49.000 And all of these passages, and it amounts, believe it or not, to something like 62% of the entire Quran, which are attacking the unbeliever and saying he should be killed.

01:57:58.000 Those should be printed in boldface and in red, and at the front it should say, these are the passages, which if you read them out loud, you can be prosecuted for incitement to murder.

01:58:10.000 I think we cannot go on allowing one standard for the rest of us, where we are not allowed to say things or print things that incite other people to murder.

01:58:20.000 Whereas they, simply because they call it a holy book, are allowed to do so.

01:58:25.000 I don't want to ban the Qur'an, but I do want to make it clear to Muslims all over the Western world that those passages in the Qur'an which incite to murder are illegal at our law, and they must stop reciting them out loud. 1.00

01:58:40.000 That was the final word.

01:58:42.000 Lord Moxon, I've got to break in right there.

01:58:44.000 We're going to break, and this has been the Alex Jones Show.

01:58:47.000 We'll be back with William Binney.

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02:00:33.000 Up on InfoWars.com, the ISIS Bucket Obama Challenge.

02:00:37.000 And we have another Video.

02:00:40.000 Man dressed as ISIS jihadi crosses borders, simulates beheading in a major city.

02:00:47.000 Just illustrating the borders wide open.

02:00:50.000 But then they've got the TSA groping everybody.

02:00:53.000 The war on terror is a hoax and a fraud.

02:00:55.000 This is meant to expose the hoax, not bolster it.

02:00:59.000 I'm like the progenitor of exposing the War on Terror as a hoax day one.

02:01:02.000 Not bragging the granddaddy of it. 0.96

02:01:04.000 So fools out there going, hey, Al Qaeda works for the globalists. 0.99

02:01:07.000 Yeah, I know, but it's like turning starving pit bulls loose on a bloody child. 1.00

02:01:11.000 Just because you run the dogs doesn't mean they're not real.

02:01:16.000 It's a globalist destabilization force, so people can't live on their own, so they beg for centralized government.

02:01:16.000 I'm trying to explain that.

02:01:22.000 Problem, reaction, solution.

02:01:24.000 They try to create anarchy, so you beg for the state, instead of letting natural anarchy through free association grow.

02:01:31.000 Now, Julia, other points that are important to make here.

02:01:35.000 How do you see them striking back and how do you see Bitcoin making the old system obsolete?

02:01:40.000 Because some could argue that they know the old system is going down, SDR is going to be fiat, that they actually might be behind Bitcoin because they want it to be the new system.

02:01:50.000 Yeah, I just don't buy it because, you know, it's incredibly difficult.

02:01:53.000 You can't control it.

02:01:55.000 It's difficult to censor.

02:01:56.000 And just like imagine doing an audit on Bitcoin.

02:02:01.000 It's very, very difficult, much more difficult than the systems we have in place right now.

02:02:05.000 What they would like is just a pure cashless society where we use credit cards for everything and government issued cards.

02:02:11.000 Bitcoin is outside of that system.

02:02:13.000 So I don't think it's favorable for that kind of, I don't think it fits into that conspiracy theory at all.

02:02:18.000 But regarding the regulation...

02:02:20.000 I agree with you.

02:02:21.000 I don't think they're behind it.

02:02:22.000 And the fact that its first message was against the banker bailout when it showed up four or five years ago, I think it's some type of super smart insider who's protesting the whole system.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, it's...

02:02:33.000 I mean, to say that it's the government conspiracy...

02:02:37.000 I think it's giving governments way too much credibility.

02:02:41.000 I just don't believe it.

02:02:42.000 I think it's an individual or small group of individuals that are innovative and have had a freedom in their intention.

02:02:50.000 And so let's talk about the regulation because this is a big deal right now.

02:02:54.000 The New York State Department of Financial Services and Superintendent Ben Lasky, they've proposed a bit license for the state of New York.

02:03:03.000 And it's incredibly overreaching and it stifles innovation.

02:03:06.000 And I like to call it the ban on human interaction because it defines cryptocurrency very broadly.

02:03:17.000 And it states things like all the companies have to have fingerprints of all of their employees, background checks of people who are using their services.

02:03:31.000 You have to be...

02:03:34.000 Like your information has to be submitted if you make a transaction that's more than $3,000.

02:03:41.000 It's just, it's really, really, really insane.

02:03:44.000 And all the companies are actually leaving the state because they don't want to, they can't afford, you have to hire like three different regulation officers, compliance officers.

02:03:56.000 So little companies are actually being, going to be destroyed if they do choose to stay in New York.

02:04:01.000 And this is what happened in England with the automobile regulations.

02:04:06.000 Guess what?

02:04:06.000 America won the automobile race easily because they were so heavily regulated that nobody could do anything.

02:04:14.000 And it's so overreaching that now if anybody wants to transact with a company that is located in New York, they have to fall under those regulations too.

02:04:23.000 So companies are going to have to deny... Companies outside of New York are going to actually deny customers that live in New York. 0.96

02:04:30.000 And then people will flee California and New York, come to Texas, and act just the same way, and ruin it again, not smart enough to know that they shouldn't crap in their own house.

02:04:40.000 Exactly, Alex.

02:04:41.000 And I have a good friend who's been in the headlines in the Bitcoin community quite a bit.

02:04:47.000 And he's going to be moving to Austin, most likely.

02:04:47.000 And he had a business.

02:04:50.000 Awesome.

02:04:51.000 Well, we've got to get you in studio.

02:04:52.000 Julia Turiansky, thank you so much for spending time with us.

02:04:56.000 The website is bravetheworld.com.

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02:05:02.000 All right.

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02:09:16.000 Well, a few months ago, it made big news across the world.

02:09:19.000 Here was the headline.

02:09:21.000 The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control.

02:09:27.000 That's William Edward Binney.

02:09:29.000 He's the former technical leader for intelligence with the NSA.

02:09:33.000 That's at the very top of it.

02:09:35.000 Before becoming a whistleblower in late 2001.

02:09:38.000 After more than 30 years with the agency, Benny has been described as one of the best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.

02:09:46.000 Benny continues to speak out about the NSA's data collection policies and continues interviews in the media.

02:09:53.000 And again, it's amazing that he's so high level and has the courage to speak out despite their attempts to silence him.

02:10:01.000 ExposedFacts.org has some of his information there.

02:10:06.000 I wanted to get him on the last few weeks.

02:10:08.000 We're able to get him today because of headlines like this.

02:10:13.000 Snowden, there's a holy S-word smoking gun revelation coming.

02:10:19.000 Whistleblower says government believes it has information that would be the death of them all politically.

02:10:25.000 Well then please release it because we've got a bunch of totalitarians running things. 0.99

02:10:29.000 And he told Wired Magazine that.

02:10:33.000 William Benny just came out.

02:10:35.000 With a group that I know is associated with people high up in the government and top analysts like Ray McGovern.

02:10:45.000 Ex-NSA director, U.S.

02:10:48.000 intelligence veterans write open letter to Merkel to avoid all-out Ukraine war.

02:10:54.000 Now the former ambassador to Russia has gone public saying the West is starting the war and has destabilized Ukraine.

02:11:03.000 That's just the truth.

02:11:05.000 So I want to get William Benny's breakdown on that.

02:11:08.000 Also I want to talk to him about parallel construction where other agencies like the DEA are using NSA data totally illegally and then creating fake court cases so the courts don't know where they got the data.

02:11:21.000 This is just beyond 1984.

02:11:25.000 So that's some of what we'll talk about in the next hour.

02:11:27.000 Coming up at the bottom of the hour we've got your questions that you're tweeting.

02:11:32.000 To real Alex Jones, we put a hashtag out there so you can tweet your questions to William Binney.

02:11:38.000 We'll also take a few phone calls.

02:11:40.000 Specific questions for him, 800-259-9231.

02:11:42.000 800-259-9231.

02:11:42.000 Specific questions for William Binney.

02:11:45.000 Mr. Binney, you heard me throw out that grouping of questions.

02:11:48.000 259-9231.

02:11:51.000 Specific questions for William Benny.

02:11:54.000 Mr. Benny, you heard me throw out that grouping of questions.

02:11:58.000 Would you like to answer one of those first?

02:12:02.000 Or what do you think is most important that's currently happening right now?

02:12:06.000 Thank you.

02:12:08.000 Well, to me, all the data NSA is collecting and being used by the police forces is really the most threatening situation to our constitutional republic since the Civil War.

02:12:24.000 So to me, that's the most important thing.

02:12:26.000 Because it affects everything we do.

02:12:28.000 It involves everything that everybody in the country is doing.

02:12:32.000 So, I mean, that's contrary to the founding documents of this nation.

02:12:40.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

02:12:41.000 Last year, we were given secret documents from Homeland Security sources in Seattle.

02:12:47.000 They were putting up their own cell towers, letting the local police even have access to it, grabbing everyone's data.

02:12:53.000 Now I see headlines in CBS News, you name it, going, no one knows what the mystery cell towers are, but it's not the government because it's illegal to do that.

02:13:03.000 I mean, we know what's going on.

02:13:05.000 Can you speak to that?

02:13:08.000 Well, I think that's part of that is gathering information on movement of individuals.

02:13:14.000 I mean, that's how you can track people moving around.

02:13:17.000 By basically putting up false towers and getting everybody to ping off your tower, that way you know they're in the area.

02:13:25.000 And you can monitor who they are and map them over time by the machine access codes that they have and the phone numbers and things.

02:13:35.000 So it's not a matter of You know, it's not a matter of them guessing anymore.

02:13:39.000 They just track everybody, and it'd be a simple problem to align them, you know, with a program.

02:13:45.000 Compile them and track everybody individually, and all you have to do is point to them and say, where have you been for the last month or two, and you can see what you've been doing.

02:13:53.000 That's right.

02:13:54.000 It's so good to talk to somebody that knows all of this and knows more than I even know because I mean I look at what's open source public every day.

02:14:02.000 A decade ago the British put these up in London as a beta test as you know.

02:14:06.000 They also did it in Berlin.

02:14:08.000 They tracked everybody in real time for years.

02:14:10.000 It's totally illegal.

02:14:11.000 Now they're building this grid at billions of dollars of expense.

02:14:15.000 for their own internal communication system as well, cameras, microphones, lifetime tracking of the cell phones.

02:14:15.000 Yeah, right.

02:14:21.000 And then when the public says, what are these, they go, gee, we don't know.

02:14:25.000 Yeah, right.

02:14:28.000 If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

02:14:32.000 Exactly. 0.97

02:14:32.000 Crazy. 0.97

02:14:34.000 Wow.

02:14:35.000 Tell folks what parallel construction is and why did you, I mean, obviously you can't talk about a lot of it, but why did you leave the NSA when you were one of the top people, one of the directors of it?

02:14:48.000 I left in October 2001 because they started spying on everybody and assembling information on everyone in the United States and it went first with phone numbers and then went into the internet later on and very shortly thereafter so it was very clear to me that they were They were pulling together all this knowledge.

02:15:05.000 It was like a super Stasi state, basically. 0.93

02:15:09.000 So, NSA was becoming the new Stasi agency, you know.

02:15:14.000 That's their new term.

02:15:16.000 I guess never say anything is now the new Stasi agency because even though their people are not necessarily using their assembling and making possible all this information and making it available to all the all the police state policing agencies of the federal government that they in turn make it local to the local accessible to the local and state police so it's really becoming a police state that's exactly what East Germany was with the Stasi.

02:15:40.000 And it was the primary reason why they did it.

02:15:43.000 That's why I left.

02:15:45.000 I mean, that was the main reason I left, because I could see this coming.

02:15:50.000 And parallel construction is the use of, is how the police forces, federal, state, and local, use the NSA-collected information, which fundamentally is not acquired with a warrant.

02:16:02.000 And so therefore, it is all inadmissible directly, inadmissible in a court of law.

02:16:10.000 Uh, and so therefore what they do is they have to, uh, whenever they find something through the NSA data, they direct local police force to arrest them and say, now you do a parallel construction by using what you would consider normal policing techniques and, and like requesting things with warrants and things like that.

02:16:28.000 And you get assemble that data and then you use that data to substitute for the NSA data.

02:16:33.000 That was originally used to arrest them.

02:16:35.000 And you substitute the parallel constructed data in the courtroom, which I've called perjury.

02:16:42.000 They're lying to the courts and they're subverting our entire judicial process.

02:16:46.000 And that's what happens when you allow this kind of assembly of information that's so much power, it's like J. Edgar Hoover on super steroids.

02:16:54.000 So, you know, this is not compatible with any form of democracy at all.

02:17:01.000 And whether it's Republican or Democratic administrations, Nixon or Obama, they all end up using the IRS, you name it, to persecute political enemies.

02:17:09.000 Imagine what Hitler would have done with systems like this. 0.77

02:17:13.000 These systems historically always end up getting abused.

02:17:16.000 If you're just joining us, the former Director of Technical Intelligence with the NSA, I've heard it described as One of the top four jobs there.

02:17:26.000 So one of the heads of the NSA, William Edward Benny, is on with us right now.

02:17:30.000 And I mean, a much bigger whistleblower, you could say, even though he hasn't released a lot of secret info, than Snowden.

02:17:38.000 And so the media somewhat has tried to ignore him, but he's so big they can't.

02:17:42.000 Without getting into anything that was classified, But we are dealing with open totalitarianism, so it's almost treason for any of us, even if something's classified, to not talk about it.

02:17:52.000 I mean, what was it like to be in there?

02:17:55.000 I mean, did they come in and say, OK, we're going to flip on all the switches and spy on everything now and focus on U.S.

02:18:01.000 citizens and politicians?

02:18:03.000 I mean, can you tell us, was there a moment or was it a process when you're there heading up, you know, NSA and who comes in to you was the director of national intelligence who was it was it the president okay we're now going to totally break the law and spy on everyone and then you say I'm out of here how did that happen

02:18:25.000 actually I was not supposed to know about this program at all because I was uh I was uh I told them that I was going to leave in early 2002 so um I was not supposed to know about what they were doing But the problem with that was that they had to use the programs that we had developed there under, that I had helped form within the SIGINT Automation Research Center, which is my laboratory at the time.

02:18:51.000 They had to use those programs, which meant they had to use the computer programmers that developed it for me to install it in another place and get it up and running, because they were the only ones who knew how to make the code, set it up, make it running, and get data flowing in and working.

02:19:07.000 So when they did that, they kept it all very secret, even inside NSA.

02:19:13.000 And the reason, of course, was because it was an impeachable act.

02:19:17.000 I mean, after all, spying on the U.S.

02:19:19.000 citizens was a violation of the FISA laws.

02:19:22.000 They were keeping the courts out of it.

02:19:23.000 They only informed four people in Congress.

02:19:26.000 You know, the chair and ranking members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committee, one of which was Nancy Pelosi, and that's why she later on said that impeaching George Bush is off the table, because she had agreed to these programs from the beginning.

02:19:38.000 So, they were keeping it very secret, even from Congress.

02:19:42.000 They didn't want any opposition, because when, that basically was the Total Information Awareness Program that was started in 2001.

02:19:50.000 Admiral Poindexter.

02:19:51.000 And if you remember, Admiral Poindex came out in, I think it was 2003, advocating a TIA program, Total Information Awareness Program.

02:19:59.000 And that's when everybody came down on it and terminated, and that's what Congress' reaction.

02:20:05.000 So when they saw their reaction, they continued to see that from their perspective, they were making the right decision by keeping it secret.

02:20:12.000 It's just like their secret agreement, their secret interpretation of Section 215 of the Patriot Act.

02:20:18.000 The fellow who wrote the Patriot Act, Representative Sensenbrenner, has already gone publicly and said that he never intended them to be able to do what they are doing, this bulk acquisition of information, by using that Patriot Act.

02:20:32.000 Well, that's violating the intent of Congress, and yet they're still doing that, and they're not spelling out, they're afraid to spell out to the American people exactly what they're doing and what their interpretation is of these laws that allows them to do it.

02:20:47.000 They simply are assuming that if the Congress keeps passing these laws, then that's passive agreement with what their secret interpretation is.

02:20:56.000 And they're never really, they don't have the guts to come out and tell the American people out in the open what they're doing.

02:21:01.000 That's the real problem.

02:21:02.000 Well, you're right.

02:21:03.000 That was a major, as I was on air at the time, when Poindexter wrote the op-ed for the New York Times called Total Information Awareness, he said, your credit card, what you eat, where you go, everything you do, when you go to school, everything will be tracked in live time or the terrorists will kill you.

02:21:22.000 People went, whoa, this is 1984 and you want private companies to run this?

02:21:27.000 No way!

02:21:28.000 So there was a backlash.

02:21:29.000 So they tried To openly sell that, when it blew up in their face, you know, as you said, they just went forward with it.

02:21:37.000 But the biggest thing for me here is, it's come out in England, as you know, that they've got the same system, and they use it against the Parliament.

02:21:47.000 The bureaucracy does.

02:21:48.000 I mean, this is being used.

02:21:49.000 This is not to stop Al-Qaeda or ISIS.

02:21:52.000 This is pointed directly to American people.

02:21:55.000 And now we've gone from it being secret to it being public, and then nothing's being done.

02:22:00.000 Where do you see this going?

02:22:03.000 Well, I see this as a very sad state of affairs.

02:22:05.000 This is not the America I grew up in.

02:22:07.000 I tell you, I could never understand why people would tolerate this kind of stuff.

02:22:12.000 I've been advocating, if these bozos keep reinforcing by passing the same laws over and over again, that we, the people, should fire them.

02:22:19.000 Get them out of office because they're incompetent and they're not living up to their oath of office. 0.55

02:22:24.000 We need to get rid of them. 0.93

02:22:25.000 I mean, it doesn't matter if Democrats or Republicans.

02:22:28.000 The party has nothing to do with it.

02:22:30.000 It has to do with whether or not you subscribe to the foundations of this country.

02:22:36.000 Well, I remember a listener sent me the link to thomas.loc.gov in 1998 and said, look at this.

02:22:44.000 He was an engineer.

02:22:45.000 Engineers would feed me info.

02:22:46.000 I mean, I had engineers that told me they had big hubs and all the telecoms listening to everything.

02:22:51.000 They would bring me diagrams.

02:22:52.000 I had no idea what it meant.

02:22:53.000 Stick it in shredder machines.

02:22:55.000 Because I'm no engineer, but I've been exposing this since day one, having other whistleblowers on.

02:23:01.000 But I remember You know, seeing this information and finding it so hard to believe, but reporting on it, and now it's just out in the open.

02:23:13.000 And I remember being sent documents that they had done a grant for Austin to put up a thousand plus hidden microphones to listen to people.

02:23:23.000 And they even had an algorithm program running locally that the feds had paid for that was NSA technology that you and others developed, I'm sure, that was keyword.

02:23:32.000 And it was all there in the federal grant, just admission of microphones, key logging or word logging, whatever you call it.

02:23:41.000 And I went on air and covered it, and people couldn't believe it.

02:23:45.000 Then a week later, the local paper ran a big story whitewashing it, going, no, it's gunshot detector microphones.

02:23:52.000 But the grant said it was microphones to listen to people.

02:23:55.000 And then now, this year, they announced nationwide, they're putting microphones in, hidden in street sculptures.

02:24:03.000 And it's in the Chicago Tribune, but they don't call it microphones, they go, the data clusters pick up wireless, environmental hazards, and listen to audio for signs of trouble.

02:24:16.000 So it's just this mainlining of a 1984.

02:24:20.000 Mr. Binney is a former director of one of the major areas of the NSA.

02:24:25.000 I mean, microphones hidden is 1984, is it not?

02:24:30.000 Yes, I mean, and of course, it's not just the microphones with the audio and looking at the video, for example, those things, but it's also all the electronic backgrounds that goes with it.

02:24:46.000 Anything you're carrying with you like a cell phone or any kind of transaction used with any kind of document like your your credit card transactions and all all those kinds of things are all assembled and that all becomes a Profile basically of you and by the way, they keep saying well, we don't build profiles of people.

02:25:04.000 No, they don't the software does that I mean once you put the data in the base and It builds relationships, and that, in fact, is the profile.

02:25:12.000 So anytime they want to look at you, all they have to do is point at you and say, give me his profile.

02:25:17.000 And you get it.

02:25:18.000 So it's not a matter of them not having it.

02:25:21.000 They have the profile on everybody.

02:25:23.000 And it's not done by people.

02:25:25.000 That's another word game they play. 0.91

02:25:26.000 They play all kinds of word games with people.

02:25:29.000 You know, it's like, we don't consider anything collected unless the person looks at it.

02:25:34.000 Well, that doesn't stop them from collecting everything about everybody in the country.

02:25:39.000 And that's what they're doing.

02:25:40.000 And they're doing it through a program called Fairview, which is the main input program they have.

02:25:44.000 If you go on the web and do a Google on Fairview, you know, and NSA, you'll get the slides that'll show you all.

02:25:53.000 There's like 80 to 100 tap points inside the continental United States, the lower 48 states, that show where they're tapping and collecting information off the fiber optic network.

02:26:06.000 And that was being put in for what I was told and shown by engineers and later confirmed at the telecom hubs all over the country at taxpayer expense.

02:26:14.000 Whole floors and whole rooms of cable companies, of AT&T, you name it.

02:26:21.000 With all the data passing through it, just outrageous, and then Bush walking around on TV in 2006 saying, oh, we don't listen to anybody in America, and playing the word game that the computers do when they can go open your profile up.

02:26:38.000 And see the whole menu of everything you do laid out, what movies you see, what books you read, all your emails.

02:26:45.000 Google admits they open your emails and read it.

02:26:48.000 Sir, what do you make of Amazon and Google and Microsoft and Apple and all of their admissions that they are data mining and using and selling the data?

02:27:00.000 I mean, it's not just the NSA.

02:27:02.000 Well, I mean, I look at that also as the same as the... It's not as bad as the government because they can't come arrest you or do violent things to you.

02:27:10.000 But, I mean, it's still a fundamental violation of privacy rights of individuals.

02:27:10.000 Sure.

02:27:16.000 I mean, and that's against, I believe, the Electronic Privacy Acts, Electronic Security Acts, and all that stuff that all were existing laws to try to give privacy to people in their electronic age.

02:27:27.000 So, I mean...

02:27:30.000 Fundamentally, I don't think they should be allowed or permitted to do that either.

02:27:35.000 I totally agree with you.

02:27:37.000 And expanding on that, what do you make of Kate Upton and all these stars with sex tapes and naked photos that they thought it was safe to send sex videos around or naked photos on an Apple cloud? 0.98

02:27:51.000 What do you make of this whole cloud revolution?

02:27:53.000 Well, it's just another means of accessing more data about individuals.

02:27:59.000 I mean, anybody who puts information out there should assume it's being scarfed up by the NSA and then made available to the FBI and DEA and other government agencies.

02:28:11.000 Are our courts fundamentally now completely bankrupt if for a decade they've been, or more, creating fake cases with data they stole and then they lie and perjure to the court?

02:28:23.000 I mean, that sounds like most of these convictions should be overturned.

02:28:28.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:28:30.000 I mean, and even the Solicitor General had to lie to the Supreme Court to get the case, you know, Amnesty International v. Clapper thrown out.

02:28:40.000 And that was, again, challenging the issue of NSA collecting all this data without a warrant.

02:28:46.000 And the Solicitor General lied to the court, saying that anybody where this data was used against them, either in a court or wherever, they would be told.

02:28:54.000 And that was simply a lie.

02:28:56.000 And so now they're trying to scramble to figure out what to do about that, all the past thousands of cases that they've done this way.

02:29:03.000 I think they're going to write those off and say, well, that's just collateral damage.

02:29:07.000 Well, that shouldn't be.

02:29:08.000 I mean, that's a violation of the Constitution, the foundation of this country.

02:29:12.000 If our government wants to do that, if they want to violate our Constitution or change it, there's a process to do that, and they should follow that process.

02:29:20.000 Create an amendment, get it passed Congress, send it around to the states to ratify.

02:29:25.000 I mean, that's the procedure we're supposed to do.

02:29:27.000 But our government is taking a totally different, very, very ugly path.

02:29:32.000 A totalitarian revolution is really what it is.

02:29:36.000 William Edward Benny is our guest.

02:29:37.000 I'm going to come back and ask him about that famous statement of Clapper, the Director of Intelligence, to Congress saying, we don't spout on Americans, we don't collect any data.

02:29:45.000 That's like saying the sun didn't come up.

02:29:47.000 I mean, it's just, they're bad guys.

02:29:49.000 I mean, that's what they are.

02:29:51.000 It's not being done to protect us.

02:29:51.000 They're villains.

02:29:53.000 ExposeFacts.org, William Benny, straight ahead, your calls and more.

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02:33:25.000 It's Alex Jones!

02:33:28.000 I've been on air 20 years.

02:33:29.000 It'll be 20 years in about a month.

02:33:33.000 And by 1996, as a libertarian promoting liberty, I had police chiefs contacting me in major cities, emergency managers, engineers, who were aware of all this stuff going into place behind the scenes.

02:33:49.000 And I would go on air and talk about it, so I would get sent more data.

02:33:52.000 Then I got syndicated.

02:33:54.000 That's the reason I realized how much trouble we were in before a lot of other folks was because a lot of people out there in the system who knew more than I did were basically using me as a conduit to get stuff out of the public.

02:34:11.000 So I can't take credit for being light years ahead of everybody else.

02:34:17.000 But now we don't have an excuse.

02:34:18.000 This stuff is out in the open thanks to heroes like William Edward Benny, who can make a lot of money working for the private contractors and the big companies that are making tens of billions of dollars a year milking this.

02:34:31.000 800,000 people, the Washington Post reported last year, 840-something thousand, have access to all this spy data.

02:34:39.000 And I'm no engineer, but I am a geopolitical researcher.

02:34:43.000 It just sounds like insider trading, people harassing friends and family.

02:34:48.000 It sounds like a way to corner markets.

02:34:50.000 It sounds like a way for real terrorists or criminals to know if the good guys are after them.

02:34:56.000 It just sounds like a devil's workshop on steroids with the helping of PCP to have 800,000 contractors in this.

02:35:06.000 And now we know the NSA has used this stuff in other agencies.

02:35:10.000 Remember, this is given to dozens of other agencies, federal and state.

02:35:14.000 To then just go out and harass their wives, their husbands, their neighbors, their competition to plant stuff under sneak and peek and the Patriot Act on computers.

02:35:24.000 I mean, it's just a Pandora's box of making us insecure.

02:35:29.000 And destroying our free market.

02:35:32.000 Again, I'm not some 200 IQ super brain like William Binney who headed up their major technical department and director of technical intelligence.

02:35:41.000 I mean, that's the actual, to use a Starship Trooper analogy, brain bug.

02:35:46.000 Okay, but just at my gut level gestalt, sir, did I hit on anything that is important, what I just said?

02:35:55.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:35:56.000 I mean, that's the whole point is that this is drifting toward a government, a central government that's like J. Edgar Hoover on super steroids.

02:36:06.000 They have the knowledge and background of virtually everybody in the country and that gives them a basis for blackmail and influence peddling.

02:36:14.000 So that's the way they can get things done, you know, leverage against individuals to make sure that, like, for example, when Nancy Pelosi said impeaching George Bush is off the table, the leverage she had was she was a part of these programs, so she'd have to impeach herself.

02:36:27.000 So they get everybody to be part of it, including local police, and now they're all part of the cult.

02:36:33.000 Exactly, and now they all have to defend themselves, otherwise they all fall.

02:36:39.000 That's how Julius Caesar took over Rome.

02:36:43.000 Sir, is this not an orchestrated, diabolical plan then?

02:36:47.000 It sure seems that way, at least it's being done, and the administrations as they come in keep perpetuating it.

02:36:55.000 Well, I mean, from Russ Tice, who was a former, also an NSA whistleblower, he has been saying that for a long time that they've been transcribing phone calls and conversations and emails of U.S.

02:37:09.000 Representatives and Senators.

02:37:11.000 And judges in the federal courts as well as the Supreme Court.

02:37:14.000 Well that's now come out, the CIA is spying on the Senate.

02:37:17.000 Yep, and this is just, that's just CIA.

02:37:20.000 NSA is much more powerful at that.

02:37:21.000 So, that just means that they're assembling all that blackmail information for leverage.

02:37:29.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't having 800,000 contractors, just contractors, hooked into this, that, I mean, if I wanted to bring down a government or a country, I would let 800,000 people have access to this Panopticon type system because it would then leak everywhere and then the country would be insecure.

02:37:49.000 I mean, this sounds like the opposite of what I would want to do if I wanted to have a secure, safe country.

02:37:56.000 Yeah, that's exactly correct.

02:37:57.000 I mean, I objected to this in the late 90s when they first started doing this, outsourcing to contractors.

02:38:04.000 I was objecting to it then because I didn't think it was a smart idea to do that, just under the principle of out-exporting, you know, giving away your trade secrets as a business to companies.

02:38:17.000 And that's fundamentally what it is.

02:38:18.000 It's you're giving away the trade secrets, how you acquire data, how you look at data, that kind of thing.

02:38:22.000 And that's exposed to all these contractors.

02:38:29.000 And imagine how easy it is for foreign states and foreign corporations to then penetrate and compromise the contractors.

02:38:37.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:38:38.000 That's happened any number of times down through history.

02:38:40.000 I mean, that is a kind of a weakness that, I mean, they could even hire the contractors, too.

02:38:45.000 You know, later on, after their contracts were done with NSA, they could hire them as contractors over their way, too.

02:38:51.000 Although, you know, they do have a non-disclosure agreement that says they won't disclose anything they've discussed.

02:38:57.000 I mean, they take with them the knowledge of what they experienced while they were there, and they can apply that knowledge and techniques to other things.

02:39:04.000 without actually compromising what they were doing in NSA.

02:39:07.000 Incredible.

02:39:08.000 Effectively, it means the same thing.

02:39:10.000 I mean, you're still giving that expertise away.

02:39:12.000 It's amazing to get your insight here on air.

02:39:16.000 Um, William Benny is our guest.

02:39:20.000 I want to go to some phone calls, 800-259-9231, specifically questions for the highest level NSA whistleblower of all time.

02:39:30.000 He was in the top four position there, some say even the number three position, the director The technical leader for intelligence with the NSA.

02:39:38.000 I have a whole bunch of Twitter questions from real Alex Jones here for you, sir.

02:39:44.000 But first off, anything else you'd like to add before we go to these calls?

02:39:50.000 I just think we as a country and we as a people need to decide whether or not we're going to continue to tolerate this.

02:39:56.000 I don't think we should.

02:39:57.000 I mean, this is not consistent with our founding principles.

02:40:02.000 We need to make this a major issue in the upcoming election in November.

02:40:07.000 And when the politicians come around to solicit your votes and talk to you and all, you should raise these issues with them and say, look, if you don't start facing up and starting to live and protect and defend the Constitution, we are going to fire you.

02:40:22.000 And we need to pass that message to them very strongly.

02:40:24.000 Otherwise, they're going to sit there and drift along and do whatever they want to do.

02:40:28.000 You have to threaten them with their jobs.

02:40:30.000 That's the only thing that'll make them do anything.

02:40:34.000 That's what I think we need to do.

02:40:36.000 I mean, I don't see any other way out of this.

02:40:38.000 Sure.

02:40:39.000 I totally agree with your statement there.

02:40:42.000 RC Patterson asked on Twitter, he says, Mr. Benny, any advice on how to mess or scramble the profile data with NSA is doing on us, i.e., web credit, purchase, etc.?

02:40:56.000 I would just say everyone always thinks about how to get around it.

02:41:00.000 And how about we politically change it and stop the whole thing that's wrong, but until we get there, what would you do to protect your private information?

02:41:12.000 Actually, I do absolutely nothing.

02:41:14.000 And the reason is because there's virtually, I'm a target, and so there's virtually nothing I could do anyway.

02:41:20.000 So anything they wanted to get from me, they could actively attack my computer to get it, I'm the same way.

02:41:28.000 and other sneak-and-peak kind of invasions of my house like the FBI normally does.

02:41:33.000 They do sneak-and-peaks to implant things in the house to listen to you and all that kind of stuff.

02:41:38.000 So I know I'm a target, so therefore I don't really try to do anything at all.

02:41:43.000 In fact, I don't want to because I want them to know everything I'm saying about them.

02:41:47.000 I'm the same way.

02:41:48.000 I have the exact same policy.

02:41:50.000 Well, so I really don't know what anybody could individually do.

02:41:56.000 I mean, I wouldn't as long as you don't make as long as you don't become visible to them for some reason or other, they won't target you.

02:42:04.000 I don't think they'll look at your profile.

02:42:06.000 But if you do something that they irritate them, they'll call up your profile and start looking at you.

02:42:12.000 So I don't, and I'm not sure really, I mean you could try to use Tor.

02:42:17.000 Tor is an annoyance to them.

02:42:18.000 It helps anonymize what you're doing on the web.

02:42:22.000 That is some impediment.

02:42:24.000 It causes them some difficulty.

02:42:27.000 And if they target you, of course, they can go around that.

02:42:32.000 One way to do it is jamming it with disinformation, garbage, just creating totally random profiles, just doing weird things.

02:42:39.000 That'll create kind of plaques of clouds that will, I think, alter the profile.

02:42:46.000 But I'd say let it.

02:42:47.000 It'll get criminal, it's illegal, and have the profile full of stuff exposing them so they're aware with their sample rate just how many people are awake to them.

02:42:58.000 Yeah, that's what I try to do.

02:43:00.000 I make sure anything I say, if I refer to them, I refer to them in a way that makes it perfectly clear what I think of them.

02:43:07.000 Well, it's organized crime in a revolution against our civilization.

02:43:11.000 I mean, do you agree with that statement?

02:43:12.000 They have organized in a racketeering operation to openly violate everyone's rights en masse, lie about it, get caught, and keep lying.

02:43:21.000 Well, it certainly is an analogy that would work.

02:43:24.000 I mean, I don't think they've taken the final step.

02:43:28.000 Like, they haven't done what the Stasi does, like incarcerate you, but they discredit you and kind of try to embarrass you and get you out of the way.

02:43:36.000 They just don't put you in the gulag or something, you know?

02:43:41.000 That step has not been taken yet.

02:43:43.000 Well, they're starting to try.

02:43:45.000 Yeah, that doesn't mean it can't be.

02:43:48.000 Absolutely.

02:43:48.000 Look at Dinesh D'Souza and his film.

02:43:51.000 Let's go to a phone call again.

02:43:52.000 William Benny, who is a real hero, is our guest.

02:43:55.000 Catherine has a question.

02:43:56.000 Go ahead.

02:43:58.000 Yeah, actually I do.

02:43:59.000 I have a question for Mr. Benny.

02:44:01.000 I'm from Canada, which is not from USA, but geopolitically speaking, I'm scared that Russia's going to trench over the border. 0.89

02:44:11.000 There's no oceans, there's no nothing to stop them.

02:44:16.000 Should we be worried in Canada about Russia marching over the Arctic? 0.64

02:44:21.000 Mr. Benny, you have had some things to say recently about the Russia situation.

02:44:25.000 Russia is saying that they may take part of the Arctic that borders them.

02:44:28.000 I don't see Russia in an offensive mode right now, but maybe you can correct me.

02:44:33.000 No, I don't, but this is also one of my very... I'm actually an NSA advocate, okay?

02:44:39.000 But I'm an advocate in the form of doing the right thing.

02:44:42.000 Now, what's happened is when they went to this bulk acquisition of data that diverted the effort and intensity and investigation into areas that aren't relevant to anything that's important, and that takes away from other areas, like being able to watch the militaries of the Russians or any other country.

02:45:01.000 And it reduces the capacity to do intelligence and to acquire and smartly assemble intelligence about those targets.

02:45:12.000 So, that's hurting our ability to understand what they're doing or what they're intending to do.

02:45:16.000 Well, that's what I was saying earlier, just as a layperson.

02:45:20.000 When you're spying on 320 million Americans, how on earth could you be watching the Russians?

02:45:26.000 That's the point, but actually it's even worse than that though.

02:45:29.000 It's probably on the order of 4 point, somewhere between 3 and 4.5 billion people around the world.

02:45:36.000 Sure.

02:45:36.000 300 plus million U.S.

02:45:38.000 citizens, but the rest of the people in the world too.

02:45:41.000 That's really the thing that's destroying the capacity.

02:45:44.000 I mean, you need to have a rich environment of information that's relevant to assess something that's ongoing.

02:45:51.000 Or that's impending.

02:45:52.000 And if you don't have that, it becomes very difficult to succeed.

02:45:58.000 Which is what the globalists want.

02:46:00.000 This is a sabotage plan against this country, in my view.

02:46:03.000 Let's talk to David from Florida.

02:46:06.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

02:46:07.000 Question for William Binning.

02:46:10.000 Hey Mr. Benny, Mr. Jones, I really appreciate you immensely for your contributions to our society.

02:46:16.000 I just wanted to mention that we've got Russia and the West, you know, really intensifying in Archangelou's where they put together a large part of their revenue to develop the largest world's oil platform to go into the Bering Sea and the Antarctic.

02:46:32.000 And let's face it, the Antarctic has the largest troves of oil and gas on the planet.

02:46:40.000 And we've got to back up a little bit, because we know that Hitler and the whole World War II was put together in a deal, because it was all CIA-based, and we put all... I understand, but specifically, what is your question for the guest?

02:46:54.000 My question is this.

02:46:55.000 We put together all those Nazis into a place called Little America 4 in Antarctic, and I just want to know, What do you think the outcome is going to be?

02:47:07.000 Because the endgame, I think, is actually that the Russians, when the endgame comes, they're going for Antarctica.

02:47:14.000 Well, they said they're getting ready to go for it.

02:47:16.000 I gotta go.

02:47:16.000 We have limited time.

02:47:17.000 These are specific questions for Mr. Benning.

02:47:19.000 You did join the intelligence professionals earlier last week, I know, I'm looking for the article, and basically came out and said that NSA director, U.S. intelligence veterans, write open letter to Merkel to avoid all-out Ukraine war.

02:47:34.000 What is your take on Ukraine and Russia, sir?

02:47:36.000 It looks like the Russians are playing a saber-rattling game. 0.97

02:47:43.000 It's not really an invasion.

02:47:44.000 I mean, if you had an invasion like I was involved in, analyzing all the invasion of Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan, if you're preparing to have an invasion or you're going to have something, then you've got to be there with a lot, in the case of Ukraine anyway, with a lot more in terms of capabilities, in terms of personnel and equipment.

02:48:04.000 I mean, you can't just do it with the few tens of thousands they have.

02:48:08.000 So, the point is, it's not really an invasion.

02:48:10.000 What they're doing is playing games along the border and saber-rattling.

02:48:15.000 The point is, I tend to agree with the President here that this needs to be solved diplomatically.

02:48:22.000 And I believe that that's the correct route, rather than try to go to confrontation.

02:48:26.000 I mean, I don't think the Russians... The Russians feel very threatened by the expansion of NATO.

02:48:30.000 No kidding?

02:48:31.000 And I would say, well, okay, fine.

02:48:35.000 If you look at it from their perspective, they have some concern.

02:48:39.000 Well, okay, why don't we invite them into NATO?

02:48:42.000 Why don't we get all of us together in a mutual defense treaty?

02:48:47.000 Instead of always fighting with each other?

02:48:48.000 Instead of fighting with each other and looking and acting like they are really a threat.

02:48:53.000 Why don't we include them instead of excluding them?

02:48:57.000 Here's another question from Mike Headsroom on Twitter.

02:49:01.000 He wants to ask you, Mr. Benny, has the NSA managed to break SSL?

02:49:06.000 What is your preferred encryption algorithm?

02:49:11.000 I don't believe any commercially available encryption system is necessarily safe.

02:49:19.000 Of course, yeah.

02:49:21.000 Simply because of the back doors and the weakening that the NSA has done through a Bull Run program that's been part of this Snowden exposure.

02:49:31.000 They have the Bull Run programs that weaken all the encryption systems.

02:49:35.000 That's simply meant to give them weaknesses in the keys or in the way keys are generated.

02:49:39.000 Well, don't they just pressure the developers to give them back doors?

02:49:42.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:49:43.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:49:43.000 And that's how they get it.

02:49:45.000 And my point is that you can take some very simple... You could use whatever is commercially available as a kind of a community cipher that you could use.

02:49:56.000 But underneath that, you have to come up with some variation of your own.

02:50:00.000 So that when they go through assuming that they have the right keys and everything, when they're breaking all these things, they end up with a mess.

02:50:06.000 Wow.

02:50:07.000 So that it's basically layers of complexity is what I'm and one of those layers can be a very simple thing.

02:50:13.000 Like you simply take the binary stream of a text that you're trying to encrypt and just transpose the bits in a pattern.

02:50:21.000 And that destroys the integrity of the text.

02:50:24.000 So that even if they have the correct key coming through the different layers of encryption for you, they still end up with that transposed mess, and they can't recognize it.

02:50:34.000 So that's one way of that that I had to propose the defeating bulk or the brute force attack on a system just assuming a whole trillions of keys and going through keys and trying to see if you get any partial text.

02:50:50.000 Well, in that case, If you do that bit transposition, that destroys the integrity so that any partial text you would get under any key assumption under that brute force attack would be absolutely wrong.

02:51:02.000 Amazing.

02:51:03.000 Stay there.

02:51:03.000 This is incredible.

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02:54:08.000 All right, final segment of the full broadcasting.

02:54:14.000 Mr. Benny's agreed to do five more minutes with us into overdrive to finish these phone calls.

02:54:19.000 Tyler, Lance, Melissa, Cee, Lee and others that are holding.

02:54:23.000 I got a bunch of questions that have come in at Real Alex Jones on Twitter.

02:54:27.000 But look at this CNET News headline.

02:54:29.000 Robot couch can drive you to the fridge and back.

02:54:33.000 As if this country isn't already obese enough. 0.94

02:54:37.000 Next they're going to have toilets in the couch like idiocracy. 1.00

02:54:40.000 People need to really wake up and stop just going along to get along.

02:54:44.000 And just because the majority of folks want to be decadent slobs doesn't mean the rest of us have to be slaves to this.

02:54:49.000 William Binney, top NSA whistleblower, is our guest.

02:54:53.000 Truth Justice Liberty on Twitter handle Occupy Earth Now says, do you know anything about Israel having direct access to NSA data?

02:55:03.000 I know some of the phone company Caller ID systems do go back to Israel and then that goes back to the infiltration via contractors by other governments.

02:55:14.000 William Binney?

02:55:18.000 There are of course international relationships and of course that's been published again by the Stoughton material that they have relationships with Israel but in general the Any exchange of information between any of those parties is done separately.

02:55:39.000 No one has free access to one another's database, but those things are held kind of privately.

02:55:45.000 If they want to share something, they put it off on a separate data set.

02:55:50.000 Sure.

02:55:54.000 We just saw the hack of the Apple Cloud.

02:55:57.000 I wonder if there's been hacks of the CIA or NSA that we don't know about.

02:56:03.000 Well, supposedly they have a closed network.

02:56:08.000 You know, that's what NSA claims they have.

02:56:10.000 And I think for the most part, they do.

02:56:13.000 But, you know, it's really, I mean, how many things are certain in this life?

02:56:17.000 You know, that's the problem.

02:56:19.000 They have very bad documentation of their network.

02:56:22.000 In other words, one of the main things you have to do to ensure cybersecurity is you've got to have good documentation of your network.

02:56:32.000 And that will tell you how people could access any of your components inside your system.

02:56:38.000 And then you need to define what you want to protect and then you surround and build within your system a protection system, you know, covering that.

02:56:47.000 But those are two things that most agencies in the U.S.

02:56:51.000 government do not have.

02:56:52.000 They don't have a good set of documentation on their network.

02:56:55.000 Sure, plus a lot of the chips.

02:56:58.000 Sorry, go ahead.

02:56:59.000 But I mean, they have designed it that they wanted it closed.

02:57:04.000 Now whether it effectively is, is another question, okay?

02:57:08.000 Absolutely.

02:57:11.000 I can't really say for sure what is and what isn't there.

02:57:14.000 Tyler in California, you're on the air.

02:57:17.000 Go ahead.

02:57:17.000 Hey there, gentlemen.

02:57:19.000 I had a question for Mr. Binney, and obviously I have probably a million questions I could talk through.

02:57:24.000 It's fine.

02:57:25.000 Go ahead and throw your question out.

02:57:26.000 Most important thing, with the anniversary coming up of 9-11, I think that we need to look into what's going on with the continuity of government.

02:57:36.000 And I'd like to know Mr. Benny's opinion.

02:57:40.000 Sure, what about coup d'etat by COG?

02:57:43.000 Kind of a reverse Valkyrie.

02:57:45.000 We know that FEMA and others have basically set up their own governing system in the name of COG, but then that can be used to have a coup against the people.

02:57:54.000 Well, I, of course, would certainly not hope that that would never happen.

02:57:57.000 I mean, you have to do, of course, you have to have ways and means of protecting yourself, that's for sure.

02:58:05.000 I mean, and I believe that the, for example, The Congress has a police force that guards them, which in case of CIA, if they really wanted to do something that I don't think would be effectively an effective deterrent.

02:58:24.000 But most of the people I know in CIA or any of these other organizations, at least the people at the working level, would never tolerate any kind of move like that.

02:58:33.000 I mean, these people are really, most of them are very dedicated, honest, patriotic people.

02:58:37.000 They would never do that.

02:58:38.000 Exactly.

02:58:39.000 They're compartmentalized, though.

02:58:40.000 Yeah, it's the management of these agencies that's a real problem.

02:58:45.000 Absolutely.

02:58:45.000 How do we deal with that?

02:58:46.000 We're going to come back in one minute in overdrive.

02:58:49.000 William Benny, exposefacts.org is the whistleblower website with he and other hero whistleblowers.

02:58:56.000 William Benny, exposefacts.org.

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Alex Jones Show - September 16, 2014

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