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00:00:28.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:36.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show today.

00:00:37.000 I'm David Knight, your host on this Monday, February the 9th, 2015.

00:00:42.000 I'll be joined in the next hour by Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.

00:00:46.000 We're going to talk about some breaking news.

00:00:48.000 There's a lot of breaking news across the waterfront today.

00:00:51.000 We've got the U.S.

00:00:52.000 continuing to push for escalation in Ukraine, continuing to push for war right at the door front of the Russians.

00:01:00.000 This is essentially the Cuban Missile Crisis in reverse.

00:01:04.000 And of course, Ted Cruz His father was very much involved in the fight against Castro, knows very well the history of the Cuban Missile Crisis, but now they're essentially setting this up in reverse.

00:01:15.000 Trying to start, in my opinion, and in the opinion of most of the people in Europe, who are very concerned about this, looks like they're trying to start a massive war with Russia.

00:01:23.000 So we're going to be talking about that.

00:01:25.000 We've also got the looming budget crisis for homeland security, not fully funding homeland security.

00:01:34.000 Senator McCluskey out of Maryland is issuing some dire warnings.

00:01:39.000 This is something to be very scared about.

00:01:40.000 She says, it leaves us open to attacks from ghoulish, grim predators.

00:01:47.000 There you go.

00:01:48.000 The only thing saving you from ghoulish, grim predators is the TSA.

00:01:53.000 I'm sorry, I thought they were the ghoulish Grim Predators.

00:01:56.000 We've also got the Supreme Court weighing in on gay marriage, saying that that's okay to have gay marriage.

00:02:02.000 And so now I guess some politically appointed judges say that they're going to redefine marriage. 0.67

00:02:08.000 I guess we should all just shut up and accept the definition, like we should shut up and take our vaccines.

00:02:14.000 They don't need our consent.

00:02:15.000 They don't care what the majority of people think about marriage. 0.86

00:02:19.000 And of course, I first saw this story.

00:02:22.000 We'll talk about this in the next segment, but this first came up when I was traveling with Libertarian candidate for president, North Carolina, Andre Marou.

00:02:30.000 He was asked about gay marriage.

00:02:31.000 I'll tell you what he said 20 some odd years ago.

00:02:34.000 That was 92, so that's about 23 years ago.

00:02:38.000 I think it still holds today, and I'm very sad to see the Libertarian Party essentially change their position on this.

00:02:44.000 And of course, HSBC, Hong Kong-Shanghai Bank, the bank that got its start in the drug-opium wars of China. 0.85

00:02:55.000 They're at it again.

00:02:56.000 We've had whistleblowers in the past.

00:02:58.000 We've interviewed several times.

00:02:59.000 Everett Stern on the Nightly News, as well as on the radio program here, Alex Jones' radio program, blowing the whistle on money laundering.

00:03:07.000 They've been caught multiple times laundering money for drug dealers, for terrorists abroad.

00:03:12.000 Now they've been caught With tax evasion schemes.

00:03:16.000 It just keeps coming.

00:03:17.000 But of course, if we look at what's happened in the past, I'm sure they'll get off with a slap on the wrist.

00:03:23.000 Nobody ever goes to jail.

00:03:24.000 Remember what the Department of Justice said?

00:03:27.000 They said, you know, these money laundering scandals that are so gigantic, anybody else would go to jail.

00:03:32.000 But you know, it really doesn't serve a purpose, which is what Eric Holder's Justice Department said.

00:03:38.000 It doesn't serve a purpose to send these guys to jail.

00:03:42.000 We can't really shut down one of these banks, as everybody at that point said, and it was very true.

00:03:47.000 They're not only too big to fail, they're too big to jail.

00:03:50.000 They can, and do, get away with anything.

00:03:54.000 And I'm going to play again for you some of the clips from a 60 Minutes investigation That they did 40 years ago.

00:04:03.000 Remember the swine flu epidemic?

00:04:05.000 Wasn't really an epidemic, but it did injure a lot of people with the vaccine that they forced on the public.

00:04:12.000 So we're going to play a couple of clips of that as well as a clip that I thought yesterday was just truly amazing of a guy from some website called Blue Nation.

00:04:21.000 He's going to tell you why you should just shut up and take the vaccine.

00:04:25.000 And of course we've seen this appeal to authority, the idea that somehow, even though the individuals are not effectively vaccinated or protected from these diseases, even though it doesn't work for an individual, somehow if we put everything into some kind of a collective and call it a herd immunity, somehow that works.

00:04:46.000 We're going to talk about the notion as to whether or not you can have herd immunity if you don't have individual immunity.

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00:08:09.000 From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones. it's Alex Jones.

00:08:27.000 Out of my way Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show this Monday, February the 9th, 2015.

00:08:34.000 We're going to be joined in the next hour, Paul Joseph Watson.

00:08:39.000 I'm David Knight, your host for this show today.

00:08:42.000 The last couple of days, actually the last week, we've been talking about informed consent.

00:08:49.000 And this is coming out in a number of different ways.

00:08:52.000 Today, we have another report about the EPA setting up people to be gassed in little chambers to extend their regulatory reach on fine particulate matter.

00:09:04.000 If you remember, when I first began at InfoWars a couple of years ago, there was a story that was breaking out of North Carolina.

00:09:10.000 At the time, they were literally hooking people up directly to the tailpipe of a diesel truck They had searched for people who had respiratory and heart issues.

00:09:21.000 They were trying to find people who were going to have an adverse reaction to this.

00:09:25.000 Now, according to testimony from the EPA, this was something that kills more people than cancer does.

00:09:33.000 And yet they were exposing people to levels that were 70 times higher than what they said were dangerous.

00:09:38.000 Not just make you sick, she emphasized when Lisa Jackson talked to Congress. 0.95

00:09:43.000 Not just make you sick, this will kill you.

00:09:45.000 We're talking about deaths, is what she said.

00:09:48.000 Now if you have a situation like that, You can never get informed consent.

00:09:53.000 It's a violation of every civil and criminal law, both in America and nationally, to experiment on people and something that you say is going to kill them.

00:10:05.000 But of course, they don't really care anymore.

00:10:08.000 We see this story coming out of Austin.

00:10:11.000 We've got a lawsuit in Austin where cops were said to put a bag on a woman's head, strap her to the chair, and choke her so they could draw blood for a DUI test. 0.84

00:10:21.000 This is an article that's up on Infowars.com today.

00:10:24.000 Steve Watson.

00:10:25.000 A woman is suing a host of parties after it emerged that cops in Austin, Texas forcibly took her blood for a DUI test in a scene that sounds more like something that would occur at Gitmo.

00:10:36.000 She was taken to a small padded room where she was surrounded by officers, strapped into the chair with her legs, wrists and shoulders restrained.

00:10:45.000 They continued to abuse her to take her blood in order to stop her from trembling.

00:10:50.000 One of the officers used a chokehold pressure points on her neck until her body went limp, says the complaint.

00:10:56.000 The defendant, Ramsey Graham, stabbed Ms. 0.99

00:11:00.000 Callaway again while Ms.

00:11:01.000 Callaway was limp.

00:11:03.000 It continues, and when the officer released her neck, she gasped for air.

00:11:07.000 She could not see because there was a bag over her head, but she felt the weight of a boot in the crook of her arm, which along with the rest of her body was still tied to the chair. 0.63

00:11:19.000 See, they don't need your stinking consent. 0.89

00:11:23.000 They don't need no stinking badges. 0.99

00:11:25.000 They don't need no stinking law. 1.00

00:11:26.000 They're law unto themselves. 0.83

00:11:28.000 And yet, we've got the mainstream media, we've got people like Megyn Kelly, who a year ago, the left was laughing about the fact that she said everybody knows that Santa Claus is white.

00:11:38.000 Now, they're embracing her, when she says, you've got to have big brother sometime.

00:11:43.000 This is what big brother looks like.

00:11:46.000 Let's play a clip of a report out of Atlanta, because this is not just happening in Austin.

00:11:51.000 And it's not just limited to DUIs.

00:11:53.000 It's not just limited to the EPA.

00:11:55.000 They're going to do it to everybody.

00:11:57.000 That's why they're hyping this little measles outbreak out of Disney.

00:12:01.000 Let's play this clip out of MyFox Atlanta, where they're doing the same type of forced blood draw.

00:12:08.000 Are you serious? 0.92

00:12:10.000 I've never been raped by a rat. 0.96

00:12:13.000 This is so unnecessary. 0.84

00:12:15.000 How?

00:12:16.000 Excuse me, Lord Lord.

00:12:18.000 I never fought nobody and I didn't ever do nothing.

00:12:21.000 What the hell is y'all doing?

00:12:23.000 What they're doing at the Gwinnett County Jail is strapping down suspected drunk drivers to a gurney so a nurse can take their blood.

00:12:31.000 Evidence that can be used against them later in court, even though the suspects refuse to give their consent.

00:12:36.000 What country is this?

00:12:40.000 What country is this?

00:12:41.000 David Boyle is a former Gwinnett prosecutor, now defense attorney. 0.72

00:12:44.000 Holding down and forcing someone to submit this is really intrusive in terms of that level of invasive procedure into somebody's body is ridiculous for investigating a misdemeanor.

00:12:58.000 Intrusive, certainly.

00:12:59.000 Invasive, you bet.

00:13:01.000 To get a Georgia driver's license, you have to agree to take a state-administered test, like this Intoxalizer 5000, if an officer suspects you've been drinking and driving.

00:13:17.000 It's called implied consent.

00:13:19.000 You can refuse, but if you do, you lose your license for a year.

00:13:23.000 Plus, that decision can be used as evidence against you when you go to trial.

00:13:28.000 Still, a growing number of DUI defense attorneys suggest you should say no to the test if you've been drinking.

00:13:34.000 In fact, many advise refusing all field sobriety tests, claiming you're simply helping the police manufacture evidence against you, and a one-year suspension might be preferable to having a drunk driving conviction on your record.

00:13:46.000 Veteran lawmen like Douglas County Sheriff Phil Miller admit that strategy has made their job tougher.

00:13:52.000 If you're drunk, Okay, let's hold it right there.

00:13:55.000 Now one of the things they say in this report, of course, which is pretty amazing, is that you can refuse a breathalyzer test, but you can't refuse having the blood drawn, because you gave your implied consent when you got a driver's license.

00:14:08.000 Maybe people ought to start thinking and rethinking this whole idea that we have turned the fundamental right to travel into a government-granted privilege with these driver's licenses.

00:14:19.000 That's maybe the core issue at the bottom of all this.

00:14:22.000 But if you see somebody, and you're on a jury, and I don't know what they do with jury trials in Georgia, but certainly in Texas, you have an opportunity to have a jury trial for any of these traffic violations.

00:14:32.000 If you see something like this, you ought to let these people go.

00:14:36.000 If they're going to start strapping people down, And doing what they did here in Austin, putting a bag over your head, strapping them into the chair, getting violent with somebody so that they can draw blood out.

00:14:49.000 That is a situation where if I was in a jury, I would let that person go.

00:14:53.000 That is so over the top.

00:14:54.000 But that is what they're going to do with vaccines.

00:14:58.000 I think it's kind of ironic.

00:14:59.000 I was talking about this with my son Lance last night.

00:15:02.000 And we're laughing about the fact that people are acting like the lemmings. 1.00

00:15:05.000 Remember that Disney True Life adventure where they told us all that the lemmings were rushing in this suicidal race over the edge of the cliff, when in actuality they were pushing them over? 1.00

00:15:16.000 It's kind of ironic that now Disney is part of this lemming-like move towards medical tyranny that we see the left embracing, left and right.

00:15:28.000 Let's play a clip.

00:15:29.000 We had a clip yesterday we played.

00:15:30.000 It's just absolutely amazing.

00:15:32.000 This is something that my sister-in-law put up on Facebook. 1.00

00:15:36.000 And she actually agrees with this idiot. 1.00

00:15:39.000 This guy's name is Jesse Burney, I think. 1.00

00:15:41.000 He writes for something called the Blue State.

00:15:44.000 Let's play this clip.

00:15:45.000 You know what one of modern medicine's greatest accomplishments is?

00:15:49.000 Vaccines.

00:15:50.000 Now, you've probably heard about the outbreak at Disneyland. 1.00

00:15:54.000 It's up to nearly a hundred confirmed cases of measles, a disease which we could completely eradicate if everyone would just vaccinate their damn kids. 0.98

00:16:03.000 Some people still choose not to vaccinate, and the reasons are terrible. 0.98

00:16:08.000 He doesn't tell us what the reasons are though.

00:16:10.000 You don't know your child's body better than your pediatrician does.

00:16:13.000 He went to like a special school where he studied your child's body for years.

00:16:18.000 He knows all the names of all the parts.

00:16:21.000 Including the parts on the inside.

00:16:23.000 And he knows what medicines protect your child against terrible diseases.

00:16:28.000 Second, you're not just making that choice for yourself.

00:16:28.000 There we go.

00:16:30.000 He, like, went to school for, like, a long time, and he, like, totally knows all the names of your kid's body parts, even the ones on the inside. 0.95

00:16:39.000 So you should just shut up. 1.00

00:16:41.000 And take the vaccine for your damn kids. 1.00

00:16:43.000 That's the anger that's behind this, that's being directed at us. 1.00

00:16:46.000 And this guy on his bio says that he's been a voice for Democrat campaigns, he's consulted for a diverse array of campaign organizations, written for dozens of Democrat elected officials and surrogates, including Bill and Hillary Clinton.

00:17:00.000 Ted Kennedy, Robert Redford, Elizabeth Warren, he also has had work published in the Guardian, Salon, Walket, Huffington Post.

00:17:08.000 Doesn't surprise me because we see those same left-wing rags pushing for mandatory vaccines.

00:17:16.000 The way this is going to look is you're going to have these SWAT teams that break into your home and strap you down just like you see them doing with DUI people.

00:17:24.000 Forcibly not extracting your blood, but forcibly injecting you with something for which they do not have your consent, nor do they care to have your consent.

00:17:34.000 You know, 40 years ago, and we talked about this yesterday, I'm going to play some of the clips today again, because it's just so amazing.

00:17:40.000 60 minutes, 40 years ago, when the broadcast companies weren't totally owned by the pharmaceutical companies, they actually went back and did a post-mortem on the swine flu scare of 1976.

00:17:53.000 They had more than 40 million people get vaccinated, and as Mike Wallace talks to the then head of the CDC, David Spencer, He just died a couple years ago at 86, but he was affiliated with the CDC his entire life.

00:18:10.000 Nothing that he did with this swine flu situation, nothing tarnished his reputation.

00:18:16.000 He actually became the CDC's historian.

00:18:19.000 He worked on the board for a long period of time.

00:18:21.000 What they did was they injected over 40 million people.

00:18:24.000 They had 4,000 people sue the government because of permanent damage that was very seriously that was done to them.

00:18:32.000 Many people died.

00:18:33.000 There was a lot of Guillain-Barre syndrome that came out of this and autoimmune disease.

00:18:38.000 Mike Wallace interviews a lady who basically was paralyzed so much they had to do a tracheotomy so that she could even breathe and she would never fully regain the use of her limbs.

00:18:48.000 Her husband was grief stricken because he pushed her to get the vaccine.

00:18:53.000 And they even talked about how they had celebrity endorsements.

00:18:56.000 Let's play one of those clips there, guys.

00:18:58.000 Let's play the one about the no cases of flu.

00:19:03.000 Let's play that one from the 60 Minutes report.

00:19:07.000 This is 40 years ago.

00:19:08.000 See, 40 years ago, they lied to people in order to get their consent.

00:19:12.000 Today, they lie to people in order to remove the whole idea that there ought to be any medical consent.

00:19:18.000 Let's play that clip.

00:19:19.000 Dr. David Sensor, then head of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, is now in private industry.

00:19:26.000 He devised the swine flu program, and he pushed it.

00:19:30.000 You began to give flu shots to the American people in October of... October 1st.

00:19:35.000 By that time, how many cases of swine flu around the world had been reported?

00:19:40.000 There had been, uh...

00:19:42.000 Several reported, but none confirmed.

00:19:45.000 Now nearly everyone was to receive the shot in a public health facility where a doctor might not be present.

00:19:50.000 Therefore, it was up to the CDC to come up with some kind of official consent form, giving the public all the information it needed about the swine flu shot.

00:19:59.000 This form stated that the swine flu vaccine had been tested.

00:20:03.000 So there you go, they lied to people about the consent form.

00:20:06.000 They said we've tested this and yet the form of vaccine they gave him was a different one.

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00:24:06.000 I hear the train coming.

00:24:16.000 It's rolling.

00:24:17.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:24:19.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

00:24:20.000 We were just talking in the last segment about the swine flu debacle of 1976, and it's really eye-opening to go back and look at this report from 60 Minutes, Mike Wallace.

00:24:34.000 Getting this guy, grilling him, you see the guy sweating on the camera, classic 60-minute stuff, saying, you knew that this vaccine that you were giving people was different than the one that you had them, that you said was tested on the consent form, yet you did it.

00:24:48.000 You knew there were problems with it, yet you still did it.

00:24:50.000 He says, no, we didn't know that.

00:24:52.000 And he's got another guy who was a whistleblower in the CDC saying yes we did and then Mike Wallace produces the document.

00:24:59.000 We see the same pattern happening over and over again except this time what's changed is there's nobody in the mainstream media to point out that the CDC is doing something wrong.

00:25:11.000 Like Mike Wallace did.

00:25:12.000 Today, we have nothing but a unified voice saying, force people to get the vaccine because the vaccine isn't effective.

00:25:19.000 And no matter how many people who have been vaccinated twice get the disease, they stick to this 99% figure, which is really a lie.

00:25:28.000 It does not convey 99% immunity.

00:25:32.000 If you look at an outbreak that happened last year in California, 18% of the people that came down with measles had been vaccinated.

00:25:39.000 In this most recent outbreak at Disneyland, 14%, I'm sorry, 18% came out two years ago, 14% in this most recent one.

00:25:48.000 But we had an outbreak in 2011 in New York where patient zero was a twice vaccinated individual.

00:25:55.000 Everybody that got it from her, the other four patients, were all vaccinated individuals.

00:26:00.000 Two of the four who got it from her had records that they had been twice vaccinated.

00:26:04.000 Yet we see these calls.

00:26:05.000 We've got calls in California to just get rid of the personal belief exemption.

00:26:10.000 That's what they call consent.

00:26:12.000 We're going to give you an exemption if you just don't agree with us.

00:26:16.000 No, we're going to take that away.

00:26:17.000 We're not going to let you have consent.

00:26:20.000 Just going to remove that.

00:26:20.000 Now you've got a Wall Street Journal article today saying that doctors are working to ease vaccine fears and they're going to have discussions that are going to be presumptive.

00:26:29.000 For example, they say, well, you know, if you come in and you talk to the patient and you start off with something like, uh, well, what do you do about shots?

00:26:36.000 Well, typically they, they might back off and not take these shots, but you come in and talk to them and say, well, we have to do some shots.

00:26:44.000 They say in those cases, only 26% of the parents resisted vaccines.

00:26:49.000 But of course, if that doesn't work, they'll give you the celebrity endorsements like they lied about during the swine flu vaccine.

00:26:56.000 And if that doesn't work, They'll just come in and strap you to a gurney like they're doing DUI patients across the country.

00:27:03.000 Not only here in Austin, but in Georgia and elsewhere.

00:27:07.000 Just strap you down and draw blood.

00:27:09.000 Because they don't care about the consent, they don't care about your individual rights, and they don't care about the law or the Constitution.

00:27:18.000 People need to understand, first and foremost, if you're just going to talk about the science of it, they need to understand that there is no herd immunity if you don't have any individual immunity.

00:27:28.000 And if you're going to destroy the rights of individuals, the herd is made up of individuals.

00:27:35.000 So it's not for the greater good.

00:27:37.000 And we see the same thing is happening yet again with the EPA.

00:27:41.000 Not informing people of the risks that the EPA has said exist.

00:27:45.000 Let's play this clip real quickly from the EPA.

00:27:48.000 This is former Lisa Jackson, EPA administrator, going before Congress in a dog and pony show, trying to step up the regulations on fine particulate matter, saying that she's not talking about people getting sick, but about people dying.

00:28:02.000 Cumulatively, what are the benefits of cleaning up particulate matter?

00:28:08.000 Does that help or hurt our efforts to battle cancer?

00:28:11.000 To battle the impact that it has on people in our country?

00:28:16.000 Particulate matter causes premature deaths.

00:28:19.000 It doesn't make you sick.

00:28:20.000 It's directly causal to dying sooner than you should.

00:28:24.000 So the impacts of delaying efforts, cost-effective efforts I might add, to address particulate matter are more people dying sooner than they should.

00:28:32.000 How would you compare it to the fight against cancer?

00:28:34.000 Reducing particulate matter?

00:28:35.000 Yeah, I was briefed not long ago.

00:28:37.000 If we could reduce particulate matter to healthy levels, it would have the same impact as finding a cure for cancer in our country.

00:28:45.000 Can you say that sentence one more time?

00:28:47.000 If we could reduce particulate matter to levels that are healthy, we would have an identical impact to finding a cure for cancer.

00:28:47.000 Yes, sir.

00:28:56.000 A bold-faced lie.

00:28:58.000 A bold-faced lie that she's worked out with Markey.

00:29:01.000 Now, we had this case that first broke in North Carolina, then we discovered that it was being done to children in California.

00:29:08.000 Now they've come back to North Carolina and they're trying to single out black teenagers who have asthma.

00:29:14.000 This is what JunkScience.com says.

00:29:15.000 The EPA cannot tell the public, as we just heard the EPA say.

00:29:19.000 That airborne particulate matter can cause death within hours, even at normal ambient levels, but then not make the same disclosure to the study subjects, who will be tested, this is what they did, at levels up to 70 times greater than what they said would kill you.

00:29:34.000 You cannot get informed consent to do that kind of Life-threatening experiments to people.

00:29:44.000 This is Tuskegee all over again.

00:29:46.000 It matters if we have informed consent.

00:29:48.000 Stay with us.

00:29:49.000 Right after the break, we're going to have a special viral report that John Bowne put together, so stay with us.

00:29:55.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:59.000 We're on the march.

00:30:00.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:19.000 You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up.

00:33:26.000 Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. 0.97

00:33:31.000 And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.

00:33:35.000 It's not about food.

00:33:37.000 It's about keeping those ants in line.

00:33:40.000 The Alex Jones Show.

00:33:49.000 Because there is a war on for your mind.

00:33:55.000 It's not about the food.

00:33:55.000 That's right.

00:33:56.000 It's about keeping those ants in line.

00:33:58.000 And it's not about the vaccines either.

00:34:00.000 It's about keeping those ants in line.

00:34:03.000 Ron Paul has an article that's up on Infowars.com talking about how we need market decisions.

00:34:07.000 We need voluntary, informed consent about what we're going to eat, what we're going to put in our bodies with injections, if we're going to put anything into our bodies with injections.

00:34:17.000 And we can see from an article from Natural Society, we can see how this can happen.

00:34:22.000 We've seen the food babe, and she's going to be on the show later in the week with Alex Jones.

00:34:28.000 She had another victory with General Mills this week, getting them to take out a dangerous preservative that they only put in their U.S.

00:34:36.000 They don't put it in the cereal anywhere else in the world.

00:34:36.000 cereal.

00:34:39.000 So she pressured them with that, and that's the market speaking.

00:34:42.000 That's people saying, we don't want this in our food.

00:34:45.000 We saw the same thing happen now with Breyer's Ice Cream.

00:34:49.000 They said they're going to drop milk with Monsanto's RBST growth hormones.

00:34:54.000 They're trying to keep this natural food label, which has really been their trademark.

00:35:01.000 They're trying to keep that going.

00:35:02.000 They said they've always uh... look for additive-free food.

00:35:06.000 Well, the problem is this R-BST is something that is genetically grown.

00:35:13.000 It's an artificial growth hormone that is actually produced by companies like Monsanto.

00:35:18.000 And it's very different from the natural bovine growth hormone, regular BST.

00:35:23.000 This is R-BST.

00:35:24.000 They say that the R-BST that Breyers is no longer going to have in their uh... they're not going to accept milk Where that growth hormone has been given to the cows.

00:35:35.000 That growth hormone that is created by Monsanto is actually genetically engineered E. coli bacteria.

00:35:41.000 It has been banned in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Israel and the European Union.

00:35:46.000 But in America...

00:35:48.000 We've got people like this Jesse Bernie who is just saying, you know, just shut up and take this vaccine.

00:35:53.000 These guys know what's better for you.

00:35:55.000 Look, we've been lied to by the CDC.

00:35:57.000 We've been lied to by the EPA because they don't want our consent.

00:36:01.000 They could care less.

00:36:03.000 If we're informed, they lie to us about what's in the vaccines, about what's in the food.

00:36:08.000 We see in South Africa, they have had Monsanto was forced to pull advertisements because somebody actually fact-checked them.

00:36:16.000 They've been saying that GMO crops, quote, enable us to produce more food sustainably whilst using fewer resources, providing a healthier environment by saving on pesticides, decreasing greenhouse gas emissions, increasing crop yields substantially.

00:36:30.000 They said, where's the proof of any of that?

00:36:32.000 Monsanto said, all right, we'll pull the ad off.

00:36:35.000 This is what they're doing time and time again.

00:36:38.000 It's not about the science.

00:36:40.000 The science is very clear about vaccines.

00:36:43.000 Louis Pasteur had to fight conventional wisdom when he explained germs, when they started talking about active immunity and passive immunity.

00:36:51.000 But it's no longer just about active and passive immunity, or vaccines or germs.

00:36:56.000 Once you add these types of things to the vaccines, like they're adding to the food, it becomes something completely different.

00:37:03.000 Speaking of something completely different, oh, before I go to the clip from the special report about the secret covenant, I just want to let you know we're going to have joining us in the third hour, Dr. Dunn from Junk Science.

00:37:16.000 This is the organization that did the FOIA request that found the information about the EPA human experimentation.

00:37:22.000 And of course, there's another one that has just started up.

00:37:24.000 So we're going to talk to him about the whole idea of informed consent, especially about the specifics in the EPA.

00:37:30.000 He's going to be joining us in the third hour.

00:37:33.000 Right now we're going to play for you a special report that's really gone viral.

00:37:36.000 It's called the Secret Covenant.

00:37:39.000 This is a document, authors unknown.

00:37:41.000 We don't know whether this is valid or not, but it is really thought-provoking.

00:37:46.000 We've seen this type of information when we've seen The globalist agenda essentially go down these lines.

00:37:54.000 So whether or not these guys believe it, whether or not you believe this is happening or not, we're also going to have this report going up on Facebook and Twitter and you'll find it on Infowars.com.

00:38:04.000 Let's go to the special report, Secret Covenant.

00:38:06.000 Secret Covenant.

00:38:16.000 And if there was an outside threat, like a bin Laden, who was a known CIA asset in the 80s, running the Mujahideen War, and whose family builds all the military bases over in Saudi Arabia right now, and sits on the board of Iridium Satellite, and tell them, we know the government's planning terrorism, we know Oklahoma City and World Trade Center was terrorism, we know the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted to blow up airliners, Baltimore Sun, if you do it, we're gonna blame you, because we know who's up to it. 0.67

00:38:40.000 Or if you let some terrorist group do it, like the World Trade Center, Allergy. 0.99

00:38:45.000 It will be so large, so vast, it will escape their perception.

00:38:52.000 It will be so large, so vast, it will escape their perception.

00:38:59.000 Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

00:39:04.000 We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

00:39:13.000 We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.

00:39:19.000 If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run four years ago.

00:39:22.000 The fate of China and the United States have become linked in a way far beyond What any of us could imagine.

00:39:35.000 We are now facing a common challenge.

00:39:38.000 And the challenge is how to build a world order.

00:39:45.000 For the first time in history, on a global basis.

00:39:49.000 Our goal would be accomplished one drop at a time, so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves.

00:39:57.000 This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

00:40:01.000 We will always stand above the relative field of their experience, for we know the secrets of the absolute.

00:40:10.000 We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy.

00:40:16.000 The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society.

00:40:21.000 And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.

00:40:32.000 We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment ...of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers... Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere.

00:40:43.000 ...which are cited to justify it.

00:40:45.000 Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.

00:40:53.000 Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.

00:41:02.000 And there is very grave danger...

00:41:05.000 That an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

00:41:17.000 We will come to he who speaks.

00:41:21.000 We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

00:41:28.000 We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

00:41:35.000 We will use salt metals, aging accelerators, and sedatives in food and water.

00:41:43.000 Also, in the air.

00:41:48.000 There aren't reasons to not get vaccinated.

00:41:52.000 Are you telling parents you should get your kids vaccinated?

00:41:57.000 You should get your kids vaccinated.

00:41:59.000 We will feed them more poison.

00:42:01.000 There aren't reasons to not get vaccinated.

00:42:03.000 Are you telling parents you should get your kids vaccinated?

00:42:05.000 You should get your kids vaccinated.

00:42:06.000 It's good for them.

00:42:07.000 The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths.

00:42:11.000 They will destroy their minds and reproductive systems. 0.99

00:42:15.000 From all this, their children will be born dead. 0.96

00:42:19.000 And we will conceal this information.

00:42:23.000 The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them.

00:42:26.000 In what they drink, eat, breathe, and wear.

00:42:31.000 We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons, for they can see far.

00:42:36.000 We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

00:42:44.000 Those they look up to will help.

00:42:47.000 We will enlist them to push our poisons.

00:42:50.000 They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

00:42:59.000 When they give birth, we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it's for their help. 0.99

00:43:07.000 We will start early on when their minds are young.

00:43:11.000 We will target their children with what children love most.

00:43:15.000 When their teeth decay, we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

00:43:25.000 When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

00:43:38.000 We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

00:43:43.000 They will grow depressed, slow, and obese.

00:43:47.000 And when they come to us for help, we will give them more. 0.90

00:43:51.000 Poison.

00:43:52.000 We will focus their attention toward money and material goods, so they may never connect with their inner self. 1.00

00:43:59.000 We will distract them with fornication. 0.92

00:44:02.000 On Tuesday, Oregon State Police got a tip that a young woman had created a 17-minute porn video that ended up on PornHub.com. 0.98

00:44:10.000 Yeah, it's the buzz around campus.

00:44:12.000 external pleasures, and gains, so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

00:44:19.000 Their minds will belong to us, and they will do as we say.

00:44:24.000 If they refuse, we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives.

00:44:31.000 We will use fear as our weapon.

00:44:34.000 We will establish their governments and establish opposites within.

00:44:38.000 We will own both sides. 0.70

00:44:41.000 We will always hide our objective, but carry out our plan.

00:44:44.000 They will perform the labor for us, and we shall prosper from their toil.

00:44:50.000 Our families will never mix with theirs. 0.89

00:44:53.000 Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way. 0.99

00:44:57.000 We will make them kill each other when it suits us. 0.98

00:45:00.000 We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion. 1.00

00:45:06.000 We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

00:45:14.000 We will guide them kindly and gently, letting them think they are guiding themselves.

00:45:21.000 We will foment animosity. 0.75

00:45:26.000 When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule or death, whichever suits us best.

00:45:35.000 But that's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion. 1.00

00:45:40.000 We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children. 1.00

00:45:46.000 We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend. 0.99

00:45:53.000 The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers.

00:46:01.000 They will be busy killing each other.

00:46:04.000 They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit. 0.98

00:46:11.000 We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us.

00:46:15.000 They cannot see us.

00:46:17.000 We will continue to prosper from their wars and their death.

00:46:22.000 We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

00:46:29.000 We will continue to make them live in fear and anger through images and sounds.

00:46:35.000 We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

00:46:39.000 The tools will be provided by their labor.

00:46:43.000 We will make them hate themselves.

00:46:49.000 Hide the divine truth from them that we are all one.

00:46:56.000 This they must never know.

00:46:59.000 They must never know that color is an illusion.

00:47:02.000 They must always think that they are not equal.

00:47:05.000 Drop by drop, drop by drop, we will advance our goal.

00:47:12.000 We will take over their land, resources, and wealth to exercise total control over them.

00:47:19.000 We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

00:47:26.000 We We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt. 0.71

00:47:35.000 When they shall bind together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world, for we shall own all the media.

00:47:46.000 We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

00:47:52.000 When they shall rise up against us, we will crush them like insects.

00:47:57.000 But they are less than that. 0.99

00:47:59.000 They will be helpless to do anything.

00:48:02.000 For they will have no weapons.

00:48:06.000 We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans.

00:48:09.000 We will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have.

00:48:14.000 The recruits will be called initiates and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.

00:48:24.000 Members of these groups will think they are one with us, never knowing the truth.

00:48:29.000 They must never learn the truth, for they will turn against us.

00:48:34.000 For their work, they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never Never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

00:48:49.000 They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind would prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. 0.99

00:48:57.000 This they will never know.

00:49:00.000 The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until it is too late.

00:49:09.000 Oh, yes.

00:49:11.000 So grand the illusion of freedom will be that they will never know they are our slaves.

00:49:18.000 When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. 0.79

00:49:24.000 This reality will be their prison.

00:49:27.000 They will live in self-delusion.

00:49:31.000 When our goal is accomplished, a new era of domination will begin.

00:49:36.000 Their minds will be bound by their beliefs.

00:49:39.000 The beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

00:49:45.000 But if they ever find out, they are our equal.

00:49:49.000 We're turning our guns in, and we're not running, and we're not backing down.

00:49:53.000 If you want them, come and take them! 0.81

00:49:55.000 We shall perish then.

00:49:57.000 This they must never know.

00:50:01.000 If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

00:50:07.000 They must never, ever find out what we have done.

00:50:13.000 For if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen.

00:50:22.000 Our actions will then reveal who we are, and they will hunt us down, and no person shall give us shelter.

00:50:30.000 This covenant must never, ever be known to exist.

00:50:38.000 It must never, ever be written or spoken of.

00:50:44.000 For if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the Prime Creator upon us.

00:50:54.000 And we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came.

00:51:00.000 And remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

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00:54:10.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:54:23.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

00:54:24.000 I'll be joined in the next hour by Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.

00:54:27.000 We're going to be talking about, of course, your television spying on you, as well as a breaking story that Paul had up that we didn't get to yesterday about white privilege.

00:54:38.000 So stick with us for that.

00:54:40.000 Now, we were talking before the break.

00:54:43.000 We had the special report about the secret covenant.

00:54:45.000 Do you think that that's something that Really doesn't apply?

00:54:49.000 Take a look at what happened at the Grammys last night.

00:54:53.000 Let's play this clip from last night.

00:55:01.000 I'll try to narrate this for people who are listening on the radio right now.

00:55:04.000 They're just showing the crowd clapping.

00:55:11.000 Okay, here we go.

00:55:12.000 Satanic horns.

00:55:14.000 Key person being lifted up in some kind of a mock sacrifice.

00:55:17.000 There you go.

00:55:18.000 Yeah, so, you know, all this Satanism stuff.

00:55:20.000 These guys really do believe this.

00:55:22.000 They really do celebrate it.

00:55:24.000 All you have to do is look at the pop culture.

00:55:27.000 Now we've been talking a lot about consent.

00:55:29.000 The fact that the government doesn't feel like they need to inform us or they lie to us in order to gain our consent.

00:55:34.000 But right now what they're doing is they're lying to us in order to remove the whole idea that there should even be consent.

00:55:41.000 We're going to be talking in the third hour to Dr. Dunn.

00:55:45.000 Who's with JunkScience.com.

00:55:47.000 They've been exposing, through FOIA requests and other research, EPA's human experiments to try to benefit the bureaucracy.

00:55:54.000 And of course, either they're lying about the dangers of fine particulate matter, or they are violating every ethical law on the books, nationally as well as internationally.

00:56:07.000 But it's not just health issues.

00:56:09.000 It's not just what they put in our food where they don't really want our informed consent.

00:56:14.000 No, it's now even extending to things like homeschooling.

00:56:17.000 This came up this weekend on Wired Magazine.

00:56:20.000 Here's the title.

00:56:21.000 Homeschooling only deepens Silicon Valley's rift with the rest of us. 0.99

00:56:26.000 So what they're complaining about was just a few months ago they were complaining about the fact that the educated and the affluent in California were opting to not get their kids vaccinated because they had concerns about the preservatives, about the adjuvants, about contaminants that were being placed

00:56:43.000 into these vaccines because they're not simply vaccines any more than your cereal that is laced with all kinds of chemicals or your fast-food products your french fries that are laced with silica silly putty it's no longer just a potato people who were educated people who were affluent were doing their research they weren't happy with the answers that they were getting and what they were seeing so they decided not to do it and so what they're complaining about is they're saying hey This is happening with homeschooling as well.

00:57:12.000 This is the way they describe it.

00:57:13.000 They say the same do-it-yourself mentality idealized by Silicon Valley's startup scene is fueling the tech-minded move to homeschooling.

00:57:22.000 One Silicon Valley parent says, we're going to direct to learning.

00:57:26.000 We don't need to hold to this old paradigm of top-down where someone tells me what to do.

00:57:33.000 And an app designer from Brooklyn, meanwhile, he said, reaches straight for Silicon Valley's origin story.

00:57:37.000 He says, the only possible conclusion is, hey, I could do this better myself out of my garage.

00:57:44.000 But of course, the person writing for Wired Magazine is not very happy about this, because from their collectivist mindset, you're leaving the herd.

00:57:51.000 You're leaving the herd behind.

00:57:54.000 Now, the H.E.R.D.

00:57:55.000 could take care of their own kids.

00:57:57.000 They could take an interest in their kids' education.

00:58:00.000 They could do something other than accept the mandated one-size-fits-all system that's being fed to them.

00:58:07.000 But no, they should stay in the H.E.R.D.

00:58:09.000 And even more importantly, we should stop those people who are trying to do the best for their kids, who are looking at a broken system and are saying, I could do better.

00:58:19.000 I could do better even in my garage.

00:58:22.000 And yet, they continue to send their kids to these prison schools, as John Whitehead from the Rutherford Institute pointed out.

00:58:29.000 Now we have handcuffs, leg shackles, and tasers.

00:58:31.000 That's a new face of punishment in public schools. 1.00

00:58:34.000 So you gotta put your kid in that, rather than having direct education.

00:58:38.000 Because they don't want you to have the options of freedom.

00:58:43.000 Stay with us.

00:58:43.000 We'll be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.

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01:00:05.000 Big Brother.

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01:00:19.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:20.000 You want answers?

01:00:22.000 Well, so does he.

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01:00:28.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:36.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:38.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

01:00:39.000 We're going to be joined in the next segment, Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.

01:00:42.000 We're going to cover some of his breaking articles that have come out yesterday and today.

01:00:47.000 As I was saying in just the last segment, this is all about informed consent.

01:00:51.000 We're going to be joined in the third hour with Dr. Dunn from JunkScience.com.

01:00:57.000 It's an organization that has been at the forefront of exposing, I believe, some really hideous EPA human testing.

01:01:05.000 That raises huge ethical considerations and fundamentally this is an ethical consideration when we're talking about consent.

01:01:14.000 And it's not just about vaccines.

01:01:16.000 It's about what's going into your food.

01:01:18.000 Are we going to apply market pressure to get them to clean up our food, to take out preservatives that are not allowed anywhere else in the rest of the world, yet they're putting it in our food.

01:01:28.000 Even when we find some of these things and bring it to their attention.

01:01:31.000 Pepsi, I believe, there was something that was brought to their attention.

01:01:34.000 They didn't take it out.

01:01:35.000 They were only putting it in in America, but they refused to take it out.

01:01:38.000 Coke did, but Pepsi left it in.

01:01:41.000 This is what we're talking about.

01:01:42.000 It's violating our consent, misinforming us in a number of ways.

01:01:47.000 They appeal to authority.

01:01:49.000 They appeal to credentials.

01:01:51.000 Let me give you an example of this.

01:01:54.000 There was a man, Samuel Pierpont Langley.

01:01:57.000 Now, of course, he taught at Harvard.

01:01:58.000 He taught at the Naval Academy.

01:02:00.000 He was Secretary of the Smithsonian.

01:02:03.000 This guy has a lot of credentials.

01:02:05.000 On the other hand, we've got a couple of guys, Orville and Wilbur Wright, the Wright Brothers.

01:02:11.000 These are a couple of guys who are just homeschoolers and entrepreneurs.

01:02:15.000 These guys dropped out of school, wanted them to start a printing business.

01:02:19.000 They then became, they got into a bicycle business.

01:02:23.000 Now, who would you think would make the first working airplane?

01:02:27.000 The homeschoolers who dropped out, just making bicycles in their garage?

01:02:32.000 Or, this guy, Samuel Pierpont Langley.

01:02:36.000 Harvard, Naval Academy, Smithsonian.

01:02:38.000 Well, of course, we all know the Wright Brothers did.

01:02:41.000 Why?

01:02:42.000 Because they challenged the tables that had false information in them.

01:02:47.000 They had coefficients of lift and drag that had been put in that, of course, the academic Pierpont Langley just went with.

01:02:55.000 He wouldn't question the conventional wisdom.

01:02:58.000 These two guys who are homeschooled, who are entrepreneurs, who are the very type of people that I was just talking about in the last segment that Wired Magazine commentator was wringing their hands over the fact that Silicon Valley entrepreneurs are realizing that, hey, I can do a much better job educating my own kids.

01:03:16.000 These kids went back and said, you know, Maybe the information that we're starting with is not correct.

01:03:21.000 They went back, they created their own coefficient of drag tables, and they got their airplane to work.

01:03:28.000 So you should always question when you're being given something and appeal just to authority or to credentials.

01:03:36.000 I've been through college.

01:03:37.000 I'm not impressed with credentials.

01:03:39.000 I always do my own research.

01:03:42.000 You should do your own research.

01:03:43.000 You have the capability of doing your own research.

01:03:46.000 And if something happens to your family, you're ultimately responsible.

01:03:50.000 Whether you got the vaccine or whether you didn't get the vaccine is something that you need to look at.

01:03:56.000 You need to look at the information and you need to decide whether you're going to do that or not.

01:04:00.000 And we need to have the freedom and the respect in our government and in our society for people to make those kinds of decisions and yet we see again another Another article from the Wall Street Journal saying, hey, doctors need to be presumptive.

01:04:16.000 In other words, they need to browbeat the parents.

01:04:18.000 They found that if they really browbeat the parents at the schools, if the pediatricians do it, then they can get a very high compliance rate.

01:04:26.000 But they still have that 1 out of 10, that 1 out of 12 that says, no, I've done my research, I'm not going to do that.

01:04:34.000 So what's the answer to that?

01:04:37.000 We're going to do it by force.

01:04:39.000 If we can't convince you, if we can't lie to you, we're going to do it by force.

01:04:44.000 They say, hey, we've got to counter.

01:04:45.000 This is a quote from the Wall Street Journal.

01:04:47.000 Pediatricians need to step up their game to counter a spigot of unscientific anti-vaccine material distributed over the Internet.

01:04:54.000 Hey, we've looked at the history of this.

01:04:57.000 We know what happened 40 years ago.

01:04:58.000 We know what you're putting in the vaccines.

01:05:00.000 It's not simply a vaccine.

01:05:02.000 Stay with us.

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01:08:19.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:08:24.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

01:08:26.000 Joining me in this segment is Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.

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01:09:00.000 Paul, there's a story that we talked about a little bit yesterday.

01:09:02.000 You've got a full article up on it today about Samsung.

01:09:06.000 Talking about how they're going to turn over your conversations to third parties.

01:09:11.000 That's kind of left open-ended.

01:09:12.000 But again, it kind of ties in what we've been talking about all day and that is consent.

01:09:17.000 Sometimes they put the consent in the fine print and you just click a little box there and they start sharing your information.

01:09:23.000 We've seen this happen with iPhone apps, with computer programs, but especially with phone apps.

01:09:29.000 Now they're doing it with your television set.

01:09:31.000 And of course, just so that you can have the convenience of voice recognition, presumably it works.

01:09:37.000 I don't even know if it works, but they are listening and grabbing your information and sharing it with other people.

01:09:44.000 Well, yeah, David.

01:09:44.000 I mean, the road to serfdom is paved with convenience.

01:09:48.000 And there's been an update on this Samsung story today, which is odd, you know, because we first reported this three months ago in November.

01:09:56.000 It was also reported by Salon.com.

01:09:59.000 Their writer said he was terrified of his TV at the time.

01:10:03.000 But why has it taken three months for this now to become a viral story?

01:10:07.000 It's basically the top news story across a ton of different mainstream media websites today.

01:10:12.000 And it stems from Samsung's global privacy policy, which states, please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of voice recognition.

01:10:31.000 So they're basically admitting that the voice recognition program, which people use to download content over the internet to their televisions, is being sent to a third party, including potentially their private conversations.

01:10:45.000 So this came out in November.

01:10:47.000 A few people challenged it back then.

01:10:49.000 Samsung didn't respond.

01:10:51.000 It's only now that it's gone big, it's gone viral.

01:10:54.000 That the company has been forced to respond and they said that they admitted that if consumers gave permission for the voice recognition feature to be activated, their words would be, quote, sent to a server which searches for the requested content and returns the desired content to the TV.

01:11:11.000 So not only their words in terms of requesting what program they want on their television, but all private conversations that you have in your living room if you own a Samsung TV and have activated this option, which is basically the reason why people buy these smart TVs in the first place, is being uploaded to the internet.

01:11:32.000 So again, it's another massive privacy scandal.

01:11:35.000 And we've seen it with other companies that have basically got no press attention when they're doing the same thing.

01:11:41.000 Microsoft Kinect.

01:11:43.000 Two years ago, gamers complained that Microsoft Kinect was monitoring their Skype calls and then banning their uploaded videos of themselves playing video games because they used obscenity.

01:11:55.000 In the video uploads, but then Microsoft Connect users complained that they had not even uploaded any videos and yet they were getting account bans for using obscenities both within video games and Skype calls, suggesting that Microsoft was actually recording and listening to Skype conversations, private Skype conversations for obscenities.

01:12:17.000 And as we mentioned yesterday, people who play, for example, Football management simulation games who shouted out obscenity swear words during the game also had account bans placed on them.

01:12:30.000 So this is not just Samsung, this is a ton of different companies, and this is the danger of the Internet of Things, where every device in your household is connected to the Internet, potentially acting as a surveillance bug, as former CIA Director General David Petraeus hailed back in that Wired Magazine article a few years ago.

01:12:52.000 Oh yeah, this has been going on for a very long time.

01:12:53.000 You point out that in this particular case, in the case of the Samsung TV, we reported on that back in November.

01:13:01.000 And yet, we know this is happening with computer monitors, that the NSA can put something on your computer to listen to and monitor what you're doing.

01:13:09.000 That's all been revealed with Snowden.

01:13:12.000 Alex was talking about that, you were talking about that well before we got the revelations from the Snowden document leaks.

01:13:18.000 This is something that is pervasive and as Petraeus was bragging about it and saying we're going to listen to you through your appliances, through your dishwasher or whatever with this Internet of Things.

01:13:27.000 Paul, what concerns me so much is that this Internet of Things is being extended to transportation.

01:13:35.000 And we should all remember that the very first DARPA contest that was put out there, even before they started...

01:13:44.000 Well, before that, ten years ago, their very first DARPA competition was a self-driving car.

01:13:56.000 It was the U.S. 0.77

01:13:57.000 military, Eisenhower, who wanted to put in an interstate system, primarily so that it could be used by the military whenever they had a need to.

01:14:06.000 And it was Eisenhower who saw the Autobahn in Germany, the one replicated here, primarily for military purposes, because it's very important for them to have control over transportation as a chokehold.

01:14:19.000 And that's something that really concerns me, is the loss of the ability to anonymously travel without the government watching everywhere that you go, but also the

01:14:30.000 Danger that it exposes us to if somebody hacks into these self-driving cars or actually which they should say that they are Computer-controlled and government driven because that's what's going to happen they're going to limit where when and how you can drive and The goal as Google and uber and many of these people have said the goal is just to take away private ownership of cars So that's the next thing.

01:14:52.000 It's not just watching you but it is controlling where you're even able to go and Yeah, and we had the article a couple of weeks back.

01:15:01.000 The UK government's official transportation policy going forward over the next three decades that they're developing with Ofcom, which controls all the communications in Britain, directs them to install black boxes in all cars, and this is also being introduced in other European countries as well as Japan.

01:15:19.000 Whereby it would be run by a Wi-Fi signal to, quote, solve traffic congestion and reduce global warming, reduce CO2 footprints.

01:15:29.000 They would remotely control people's cars to slow down so as to reduce the chance of traffic jams, of course.

01:15:37.000 If they have control of that, they have control of your basic right to mobility, because they could withdraw permission for you to even start the car in the first place.

01:15:47.000 So that's the big problem with the Internet of Things as it relates to transportation going forward.

01:15:53.000 And they're even talking about that as being part of the Internet of Things.

01:15:56.000 Of course, it raises security issues for people.

01:16:00.000 Malicious hackers could cause car crashes.

01:16:03.000 You could have governments could single out particular individuals and of course they could have a malfunction.

01:16:09.000 We should all remember that all these cases that we've had in the recent past of various automobile manufacturers who had uncontrolled acceleration that left people dead or crippled in many instances.

01:16:21.000 You didn't hear much about that in the mainstream media because, of course, the automobile companies are big sponsors of commercials, just like the pharmaceutical companies are big sponsors of commercials.

01:16:31.000 They tend to cover that stuff up.

01:16:33.000 And, of course, if you've got a computer controlled car and your computer crashes, now you're physically in that crash.

01:16:40.000 But of course they will cover that up, they will compensate the victims under condition that they don't talk about that, so they be able to maintain this illusion that all the people that are dying from accidents from careless drivers, that'll all be gone.

01:16:54.000 Of course we'll have people who will be dying then from software errors.

01:16:57.000 That's the thing that concerns me.

01:16:58.000 But even more so, Paul, is the fact that they're going to have control over our movement.

01:17:04.000 And this is This affects a lot of things.

01:17:06.000 This affects the Agenda 21 example, where they restrict you to certain urban centers and keep you out of the rest of the country.

01:17:15.000 This is a very pervasive total control regime, and when they do it with transportation, that's when they can exercise total physical control.

01:17:25.000 Yeah, and the challenge we've got, David, is to get young people irate and angry about this, because I was looking at some of the polls beforehand on How young people view surveillance, because we talk about this again and again, they appear to be quite happy to sacrifice privacy for convenience.

01:17:43.000 They've grown up in the internet age where everything is on demand, everything is instant, and they're willing to sacrifice that, and they don't really seem to care about privacy rights and where that's heading.

01:17:54.000 So there was a Pew Research Center poll Not too long ago, which found that NSA spying receives more support from people under 30 years old than any other age group.

01:18:06.000 So people aged 18 to 29 approved of the NSA spying program, this was after the Snowden revelations, at a rate of 61% compared to just 40% from the 65 and older crowd.

01:18:20.000 And that was the Pew Research Center poll.

01:18:22.000 So You know, even people on the left like Noam Chomsky have looked at this and concluded that, you know, why is this?

01:18:30.000 Why do young people so willingly sacrifice privacy for convenience? 0.99

01:18:34.000 Why do they not seem to be so put off by government surveillance?

01:18:38.000 And he points out that the whole exhibitionist nature of the internet culture, with social media and specifically Facebook, Has made people so much more comfortable with the idea that everything they do is going to be public, no matter what it is.

01:18:54.000 Which comes back to the Samsung thing and what John McCain said after the Don Sterling revelations, that every private conversation you have, you should consider that to be on the record, to be open to surveillance.

01:19:07.000 As Julian Assange said, it's like Facebook and Twitter is like having all your friends wearing a wire.

01:19:12.000 But I think it's no coincidence, Paul, that the very first reality show, which it's almost as if the younger generation believes that they're in a constant reality show, that if everybody is watching everything that they do, that somehow that makes them a celebrity.

01:19:24.000 The very first one of those shows is called, of course, Big Brother.

01:19:29.000 I don't think that's any coincidence.

01:19:30.000 One of the things you're talking about, how they love social network, they're going to be perfectly happy to have their movement completely controlled and limited by the government if they'll be able to sit in their little bubble of a car without a steering wheel, without any brakes, and just sit there with their face on social media, with their face in Facebook, and tweeting out where they're going.

01:19:52.000 That's where the next generation is going.

01:19:53.000 That's the challenge before us.

01:19:55.000 And of course, the schools are a large part of that.

01:19:57.000 Stay with us.

01:19:57.000 We're going to be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.

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01:24:25.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:24:26.000 I'm your host today, David Knight.

01:24:28.000 Joined from the UK with Paul Joseph Watson.

01:24:30.000 And Paul, just before the break, we were talking about how passive the younger generation is towards social media.

01:24:37.000 We had to cut it short to go the break.

01:24:39.000 Go ahead and continue with what you were going to say.

01:24:42.000 Yeah, I was just going to make the point that, you know, on the flip side of that argument, young people are now so energised about healthy lifestyles and eating well and food.

01:24:51.000 We saw the recent victory with the Food Babe getting the preservative out of the cereals.

01:24:56.000 That was a massive victory.

01:24:57.000 They instantly had to respond to that petition and remove the preservative from cereals.

01:25:02.000 And we're having numerous victories on the health front, driven mainly by young people.

01:25:07.000 So the question I have is, you know, why are larger numbers of people willing to change their habits, their lifestyles, and spend more money on what they eat and their health?

01:25:16.000 Why are they more likely to want to reassert more control over their health than they are their privacy rights?

01:25:23.000 And again, it goes back to this problem about Facebook and social media where You know, it promotes mindless content over serious content, so it encourages people to post more and more private information about themselves, and then that normalizes the whole process.

01:25:40.000 They've actually done studies whereby, you know, narcissism is now through the roof.

01:25:45.000 And people's brains are actually becoming more infantile because of this reward they get from the likes, from the comments on Facebook when they post mindless photographs of themselves or reveal private information about themselves.

01:25:59.000 So, whereas in the past that wouldn't be rewarded, now it's being socially rewarded by the very basic algorithm of how Facebook works.

01:26:09.000 So, you know, I could post a serious article or a video and it will get Four shares and seven comments.

01:26:16.000 I can post a comment, as I did the other day, saying, what's your favorite mobster movie?

01:26:21.000 And within five minutes, it's got 50 comments.

01:26:24.000 So Facebook, their algorithm works to promote mindless content.

01:26:29.000 So that encourages people to be more mindless, to be more infantile and narcissistic about how they relate with Facebook.

01:26:36.000 And then they get rewarded for that.

01:26:37.000 So that's the challenge that we have to overcome in getting people concerned about privacy and scaling back this idea that sharing every facet of your private life is somehow normal and should be encouraged because it shouldn't.

01:26:50.000 Well, it's bread and circuses.

01:26:52.000 I mean, that's really what's behind so much of this, and certainly that's behind what's going on with the Samsung television as well.

01:26:58.000 People don't care that somebody is listening to every single word and is being transmitted to a third party.

01:27:04.000 All the conversation, the private conversations happening in their living room, they really don't care that they got a Big Brother box there.

01:27:09.000 And as we mentioned yesterday in the Snowden documents that came out in Germany late last spring, The NSA was bragging about how they had enacted Big Brother using the iPhone.

01:27:22.000 And laughing at Americans and people all over the world who would line up to pay for their own Big Brother device.

01:27:28.000 And that certainly is what the Samsung device is.

01:27:30.000 But it's all about convenience, it's about entertainment, it's about bread and circuses.

01:27:35.000 That's the way they've always used, they've always controlled the mass public.

01:27:40.000 And that's the way they're doing it now.

01:27:43.000 We're going to take some calls in the next segment with Paul.

01:27:46.000 The number, if you want to call in, is 800-259-9231.

01:27:50.000 Paul, I want to go to another story that you put up today, kind of a curious story.

01:27:50.000 Again, that's 800-259-9231.

01:27:56.000 I haven't had time to see the video.

01:27:59.000 Maybe you could kind of walk us through this hoax, you ask.

01:28:03.000 There's a bizarre satanic ritual being described by children in a video.

01:28:07.000 Tell us about that.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, this is a chilling video, whether it's a hoax or not.

01:28:13.000 I mean, it's gone completely viral over the weekend.

01:28:15.000 It's got over a thousand comments on Reddit.

01:28:17.000 It's got 200,000 views on the original YouTube video.

01:28:20.000 And it's basically two young children describing how they were allegedly sexually abused.

01:28:27.000 And forced to partake in bizarre satanic baby sacrifice rituals by all these police headteachers and other local officials in an area of London.

01:28:41.000 There are literally 20 videos of these children on the internet describing in detail what they were put through.

01:28:47.000 The quest, I mean, it's not substantiated other than the claims that they're making.

01:28:52.000 A lot of people have watched the video and said they're being coached by their parents to say these things.

01:28:57.000 They're saying that this is just to demonize the father in a custody battle.

01:29:02.000 But the fact that it's gone so viral over the weekend...

01:29:05.000 It means that it needs to be addressed by the relevant authorities because it's becoming a huge story.

01:29:11.000 So I merely, I drew attention to it and then made the point that unfortunately a lot of these allegations are now proving to be true in different areas.

01:29:20.000 We've got the Westminster paedophile scandal, of course we had the Jimmy Savile scandal, where a lot of these Satanic rituals are actually alleged to have taken place by the victims and a lot of that is now coming true.

01:29:32.000 So God only hopes that it's a hoax because it's a very disturbing video.

01:29:36.000 But I thought it was important to draw attention to it simply because of the traction it's got, which is massive.

01:29:41.000 And of course that Jimmy Savola case, that was covered up multiple times by Scotland Yard.

01:29:47.000 They shut down that investigation from higher up.

01:29:49.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

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01:33:22.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:30.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

01:33:31.000 We have Paul Joseph Watson on the line with us from the UK.

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01:34:40.000 Of course, he's involved as a policy and science advisor for a number of institutions.

01:34:46.000 But he's going to be talking to us about yet another case of human experimentation by the EPA.

01:34:51.000 Because you know what?

01:34:52.000 Your informed consent doesn't matter anymore.

01:34:56.000 That's why we got everybody screaming at the top of their lungs from both the left and the right, Fox News to CNN to C-SPAN, not C-SPAN but CNBC I should say, and MSNBC.

01:35:08.000 They're all saying, hey, just shut up and do what the government tells you because they've been to school and they know the names of all the body parts, inside of your kid even, even the parts that are inside.

01:35:21.000 Let's go to some of your calls.

01:35:23.000 You had some questions for Paul Joseph Watson.

01:35:24.000 Let's go to Casey in Louisiana.

01:35:27.000 Casey.

01:35:29.000 How's it going, guys?

01:35:30.000 Doing good.

01:35:31.000 What's your question?

01:35:33.000 Really, it was a comment.

01:35:34.000 I was really calling to agree with him whenever he mentioned about Facebook, how you can post something mindless and you get many hits versus posting something for real.

01:35:44.000 I've shared your articles and I've shared different things for years with InfoWars and other stuff I find and get no comment.

01:35:50.000 Yeah.

01:35:51.000 no return other than maybe my father. 0.99

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01:36:02.000 So I just withdrew all my consent from Facebook and deleted my account.

01:36:06.000 Yeah.

01:36:07.000 And I have no need for social media, but I watched my family and others go through it, you know, and they get with me and they say, oh, you don't post none of your daughter's picture.

01:36:16.000 Oh, you got to get back on there.

01:36:17.000 You know, I said, look, hey, do it the old-fashioned way.

01:36:20.000 Break out the photo album, you know?

01:36:21.000 I mean, that's going to be a thing of the past, you know?

01:36:24.000 Absolutely.

01:36:25.000 You know, we were just talking with Paul.

01:36:27.000 I'll let Paul comment on this, but one of the cars that was offered at the Consumer Electronics Show, of course, this year, the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, is all about self-driving cars.

01:36:38.000 And, of course, the one that was probably the most complete Was the Mercedes that was rolled out.

01:36:44.000 And one of the things that they had were these large virtual displays on the door so that you could, instead of looking out the window, you could look at this display that had cameras showing you views of the outside and it's like, wow.

01:36:58.000 I remember when we just used to look out the windows and it was this real 3D reality.

01:37:03.000 It wasn't virtual reality.

01:37:04.000 I mean, to me that just seems incredibly silly.

01:37:07.000 Is that the same kind of car that Michael Hastings was driving?

01:37:11.000 Uh, well, it's a little bit, it's their, their self-driving car they're going to introduce in a few years.

01:37:16.000 But yeah, Mercedes has been leading the forefront.

01:37:19.000 That's why they have the most complete self-driving cars at the moment, because they've been adding these systems gradually to the car to assist you in driving.

01:37:28.000 But of course, those systems, even at this point, can easily be hacked.

01:37:32.000 Richard Clark, former advisor, Homeland Security and Security Issues, pointed that out during the Michael Hastings Inquiry said, hey, we've done this before.

01:37:44.000 We've hacked cars before.

01:37:45.000 We can make them crash just by hacking into the systems.

01:37:48.000 So what are they going to do when they take over complete control of your car?

01:37:51.000 Paul, did you have a comment?

01:37:53.000 Yeah, just on Facebook, you know, people say, why don't you just delete your Facebook account?

01:37:58.000 Well, that's where the audience is.

01:37:59.000 You know, Facebook still has five times the amount of users compared to Twitter.

01:38:04.000 So if you actually want to try and reach anybody, that's not really a solution.

01:38:07.000 What's interesting to me is There's a story out of the AP today.

01:38:12.000 Robbery suspects say Facebook posts about inheriting jewellery made them target home.

01:38:17.000 So somebody posted the fact that they just inherited a bunch of jewellery and then men wearing ski masks arrived shortly afterwards.

01:38:25.000 So yeah, the fact that people are posting pictures of their children is completely insane.

01:38:30.000 I can't even imagine why you would entertain that in the first place.

01:38:33.000 But for people using it to spread information, it's a very good tool and that's why we use it.

01:38:38.000 But as the caller said, Facebook deliberately relegates Anything serious.

01:38:44.000 They promote mindless stuff about people, you know, falling over, having accidents, funny stuff like that.

01:38:50.000 And anything with a link in it basically gets relegated.

01:38:53.000 You get very few comments or shares.

01:38:54.000 So it's a constant battle because they're constantly changing their algorithm to relegate serious content and now bringing in censorship.

01:39:02.000 Where committed groups of political agitators can claim that something's a hoax if they merely disagree with it, and then that post gets relegated so less people see it.

01:39:14.000 So it's a constant battle with Facebook to try and get around their algorithm, which is, you know, determined to obfuscate and relegate any serious news.

01:39:24.000 Thanks, Casey.

01:39:25.000 Let's go to Keith in Michigan.

01:39:27.000 Keith, you said you had a comment for Paul.

01:39:29.000 Go ahead.

01:39:33.000 Yes, go ahead, you're on.

01:39:36.000 Well, I just wanted to say that I've been listening since like 2000 and I love the show and I just kind of wanted to make a comment.

01:39:45.000 I just pulled out some old albums from the 70s and I've got a Steppenwolf album with the song called Monster and it just reminds me, it's just so much about what we're talking about.

01:39:56.000 Monster on the loose, It's got her head into a noose and it just sits there watching us. 0.60

01:40:02.000 It's like Big Brother.

01:40:03.000 And I just thought I would just pass that on, that song Monster by Steppenwolf.

01:40:09.000 Any comment, Paul?

01:40:11.000 I'm not a fan of Steppenwolf personally, but yeah, this whole idea about Big Brother in the past being something to be feared, now it's kind of being incorporated into the culture as something trendy, like you said with the Big Brother reality show.

01:40:24.000 You know, maybe Big Brother's our friend now.

01:40:26.000 Well, I'll tell you what, I'm not a big Steppenwolf fan, but I like... Sorry?

01:40:31.000 Go ahead.

01:40:32.000 Take a listen to that song.

01:40:33.000 And it's kind of like in the, you know, I don't know if you remember the song, Born to be Wild.

01:40:38.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

01:40:39.000 I like that.

01:40:40.000 That's a great driving song.

01:40:41.000 Thanks.

01:40:42.000 Let's go to Mike in Georgia.

01:40:44.000 Mike, you said you had a question for Paul?

01:40:47.000 Yeah, I guess it's really more just about the info war as a whole.

01:40:52.000 And so I've been pretty awake for two years now.

01:40:55.000 And the thing that I noticed is if you listen to this show and others, You'll hear something, but you've got to go research it afterwards.

01:41:03.000 You can't just say, oh yeah, I heard this is linked to this, and then you just say it and spout it off, and you're actually hurting the info war at that point.

01:41:11.000 If someone says something and it sounds bombastic, when you have free time, get on the internet and read about it.

01:41:19.000 You know, the thing to me that I've been learning, and I don't know how to really approach this, because obviously you want people on your side, but you want informed people on your side, is So, like, vaccinations and autism.

01:41:31.000 Like, I haven't read the reports on it.

01:41:33.000 I know that it's a thing, but if I haven't read about it, I can't say anything about it.

01:41:37.000 What I can say is the inserts say all these things, so I know that to be a fact.

01:41:43.000 So I really just don't know how to approach this and wake people up and get them to actually research what they're hearing on these shows and not just repeat it.

01:41:53.000 I'll let Paul comment on that, but my comment first of all would be that one of the best ways to wake people up if they haven't heard anything other than mainstream news, one of the best ways to wake them up Is with documentaries.

01:42:05.000 Alex has got a lot of documentaries.

01:42:08.000 Most of them you'll find on YouTube.

01:42:09.000 Of course, if you get a Prison Planet TV subscription, you can get all the documentaries there.

01:42:13.000 You can share it with people.

01:42:14.000 And then you get the nightly news each night and they can see the application of Those principles, what we understand about the long-term trends that Alex explains in detail in the documentaries, you can see that as it's happening daily in the news.

01:42:30.000 So you can put those two things together to get a bigger picture.

01:42:33.000 But I think documentaries are one of the best ways to wake people up to the fact that they've been lied.

01:42:39.000 You can't really, in a news broadcast or radio program, you can't really go into sufficient depth to explain this to somebody if they haven't seen it before.

01:42:49.000 Of course, the articles that Paul and others put up on Infowars.com, they back up what they've got there with links to, in most cases, mainstream media.

01:42:57.000 It's like, look, the New York Times has pointed this out, and so they can go to information sources that they perhaps trust because they've heard them a lot uh... and they can see that they're saying the same thing but it doesn't get much airplay.

01:43:11.000 Go ahead, Paul.

01:43:13.000 Yeah, well, I mean people have to take responsibility.

01:43:16.000 We've never had greater access to information in the history of mankind.

01:43:21.000 So if you're pointing out there's issues to people and they're not following up on it, they're not doing their own research, then that's really not your fault.

01:43:28.000 You could look at it through a more selfish paradigm where you think If I research this information and it turns out to be accurate and it's confirmed and I apply it to my life, you know, in the arena of, you know, finance, health, civil liberties, any of those contexts, then that helps you live a better, more empowered, more free life.

01:43:47.000 If other people refuse to do that, there's no excuse for them anymore.

01:43:50.000 The information's right there.

01:43:52.000 Everybody's got direct access for it.

01:43:54.000 So from that, through that prism, it's really their responsibility.

01:43:57.000 It's not on your head anymore.

01:43:59.000 If they fail to do it, then it's their own fault.

01:44:02.000 And of course, I would agree with that.

01:44:03.000 I would say that maybe if the people who support vaccines, you think that regardless of what's in the vaccine, you ought to just shut up and listen to the people with credentials, the people in authority, do what they tell you to do and not question it.

01:44:17.000 Maybe we could just say, well, we'll wait and see who wins the Darwin Award.

01:44:20.000 You think that this is something that's dangerous?

01:44:24.000 That's not dangerous?

01:44:25.000 I think it's something that is.

01:44:26.000 But they're not content to do that.

01:44:26.000 Let's just wait and see.

01:44:28.000 I think that's one of the reasons we have to engage them, because not only are they not content to do their own research, but they want to force their ignorance on other people.

01:44:37.000 They want to destroy our fundamental human rights, our civil liberties, our legal structure, our Constitution, and force us to do things without our consent.

01:44:46.000 And that's what, at this juncture, is so incredibly dangerous.

01:44:50.000 That is what government is always about.

01:44:52.000 It's simply about forcing people to do things.

01:44:54.000 It's not about explaining stuff to people.

01:44:57.000 As Washington said, it's not about eloquence.

01:45:00.000 It's not about compassion.

01:45:03.000 It's simply force.

01:45:04.000 That's what government is.

01:45:05.000 So now it's gotten to the point where it's not good enough for them to have 9 out of 10 people vaccinated.

01:45:09.000 They're going to force you if you don't want to submit to that kind of medical tyranny.

01:45:17.000 Yes, go ahead.

01:45:18.000 You want to make another comment?

01:45:20.000 No, no, no, it's fine.

01:45:21.000 Well, yeah, just really as far as people who are informed and are learning and educating themselves, I guess it's just an on-call.

01:45:30.000 You know, it's like you can't say, yeah, I heard about this and swear it's true.

01:45:35.000 You have to hear about it and then educate yourself, too.

01:45:39.000 You know, you guys do a great job there as far as like having the link there for us to read.

01:45:44.000 But guess what?

01:45:45.000 We have to read them.

01:45:46.000 You know, we can't just say we heard it on the show because what good is that?

01:45:51.000 You have to read it for yourself.

01:45:52.000 Yeah, you have to know what you believe.

01:45:54.000 And one of the things they found in California was when they required people who said, well, I'm not really comfortable with vaccines, when they required them to come in, And have quote-unquote counseling where somebody in authority would sit down and very sternly tell them you understand that we know what's best for you.

01:46:08.000 We've looked at this and so forth and so on.

01:46:11.000 They found that in most cases the people would submit to that kind of authoritarian pressure because they weren't sure of why they were uncomfortable with it.

01:46:19.000 So yeah, fundamentally you have to understand what's going on and don't find yourself in the kind of Regret that so many people in the panic of the swine flu vaccinations in 1976, when they were lied to, when that was hyped by the CDC, by the government, there were a lot of people who wound up with regrets.

01:46:38.000 And there's a lot of people who have regrets that they had vaccines as well.

01:46:42.000 Thank you, Mike.

01:46:42.000 Let's go to Nathan in Louisiana.

01:46:44.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:46:46.000 You had something else you wanted to say, Mike?

01:46:49.000 Okay, let's go to Nathan in Louisiana.

01:46:50.000 Nathan?

01:46:52.000 Yes, sir.

01:46:52.000 I wanted to know, Paul, if you heard about and read the articles about the 2012 and 2014 court rulings in Italy, where the judges and the courts found that the vaccines with aluminum and thimerosal both have caused autism.

01:47:10.000 You know, it's basically been a media blackout in the United States.

01:47:14.000 But, you know, it had these basically monumental rulings in Italy.

01:47:22.000 Yeah, there's a ton of stuff.

01:47:23.000 I mean, Ron Paul put out a good article today which was on Infowars.

01:47:27.000 He points to the 2007 HPV vaccine, which again, amidst this national debate about enforcing mandatory vaccines against people's will, at gunpoint, which is the logical conclusion of their argument, Look back to 2007 when Rick Perry signed this order to mandate the HPV vaccine when most young girls were not even at risk of HPV.

01:47:50.000 It was a massive outcry and that was subsequently rescinded.

01:47:54.000 So, this idea of making it mandatory in California, the history behind it is not good for the potential mandatory application of vaccines.

01:48:07.000 Of course it wasn't just... Yeah, go ahead.

01:48:11.000 It's not just in Italy, it's also in Japan.

01:48:13.000 They quit using MMR vaccines.

01:48:16.000 I don't know if they started back or not.

01:48:17.000 This is an old article going back to about 2000.

01:48:20.000 They said they stopped using the MMR vaccine in Japan because it was linked to outbreaks of non-viral meningitis and other damaging side effects.

01:48:28.000 They found at the time that a quarter of the roughly 4,000 medical compensation claims relating to vaccine Over a 30-year period had been made to people who had gotten the MMR vaccine.

01:48:41.000 They were very concerned about it.

01:48:43.000 The statistics that they had been given said that they were only going to have a problem in about 1 out of every 100,000 to 200,000.

01:48:51.000 Yet, it was 2,000 times greater than that.

01:48:55.000 It was about 1 in every 900 kids was experiencing problems from the MMR vaccine.

01:49:00.000 One of the things that they did, which is one of the things that Dr. Andrew Wakefield suggested, was to separate these out, to do them one at a time, instead of a collective vaccine.

01:49:09.000 But then there's still the issues of what has been added as preservatives, what has been added as adjuvants.

01:49:15.000 People are asking for clean vaccines, just like they're asking for clean food.

01:49:21.000 But of course, they talk down to us and say, you don't understand what a vaccine's for.

01:49:25.000 I understand the difference between a fast food french fry and a potato.

01:49:31.000 And that's what this essentially boils down to.

01:49:32.000 They're trying to tell us that we don't understand the science of vaccines.

01:49:35.000 We perfectly do understand the science of vaccines.

01:49:39.000 We're asking if they're going to have vaccines for them to be clean.

01:49:43.000 But we're demanding, demanding that we have informed consent.

01:49:47.000 Did you want to say anything else, Nathan?

01:49:49.000 Yes sir, InfoWars is laying out a battle plan for people and showing people how to become citizen journalists.

01:49:56.000 Last year I found my own website, TheDailyResistance.com, and then I actually hooked up with another citizen journalist in New Orleans, David Abbey from the NOVA Report, who y'all actually ran his story.

01:50:07.000 He was the guy that interviewed John McCain about Benghazi at the Bill Cassidy rally and y'all ran his story on National News.

01:50:15.000 Well, in him now, Because of InfoWars and because of Citizen Journalism, we now host a radio show on 8 o'clock on WGSO 990 AM in New Orleans.

01:50:26.000 It's called Battle of New Orleans.

01:50:28.000 So check it out.

01:50:30.000 So everybody, InfoWars is laying out a plan how to become Citizen Journalist.

01:50:34.000 People want to understand and know what to do?

01:50:37.000 Then put a notepad in your pocket.

01:50:39.000 Battlefield.

01:50:39.000 Absolutely.

01:50:40.000 Battle for New Orleans.

01:50:41.000 That's great.

01:50:41.000 Yeah, you have to understand why you believe what you believe.

01:50:43.000 Don't be intimidated.

01:50:44.000 Don't be ignorant about what they're trying to do with you.

01:50:46.000 if we get in the game and get on the front lines of the battlefield. 0.81

01:50:46.000 Stay with us. 0.81

01:50:49.000 Absolutely.

01:50:50.000 Battle for New Orleans.

01:50:51.000 That's great.

01:50:52.000 Yeah, you have to understand why you believe what you believe.

01:50:56.000 Don't be intimidated.

01:50:57.000 Don't be ignorant about what they're trying to do with you.

01:51:00.000 Stay with us. 0.86

01:51:00.000 We'll be right back with Paul Joseph Wesson and your calls. 0.86

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01:54:07.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:54:26.000 I'm David Knight, your host today, and I have Paul Joseph Watson with us on the line from UK, and we're taking your calls, questions for Paul.

01:54:34.000 Of course, in the next hour, we're going to be talking to Dr. John Dunn, a physician of 44 years, an attorney for 36 years.

01:54:42.000 He's going to be joining us to talk about the medical and ethical questions behind the continued human testing being conducted by the EPA.

01:54:50.000 So that's coming up in the next hour.

01:54:52.000 Let's go to Chad in Washington.

01:54:54.000 Chad, you had a question for Paul.

01:54:57.000 Yeah, I just quickly want to touch on two things.

01:55:02.000 As far as that one guy talking about research and stuff, I think if people wanted to research a topic, an important one would be geoengineering, just so that when the media tries to come out with, you know, the climate change and the carbon taxes, they'll at least be aware of what's being sprayed in the sky.

01:55:24.000 But then, the other thing, I just wanted to know what happened with that post that Joe Bakes put out last night, of the big bomb going off in Ukraine.

01:55:32.000 I wondered if anybody knew any more about that.

01:55:37.000 Good, Paul, you want to touch that?

01:55:39.000 Yeah, from what I read from the reports in the morning, it was a chemical factory that got bombed.

01:55:45.000 So it was the Kiev government bombing the pro-Russian rebels and it was actually a chemical factory that got bombed.

01:55:53.000 So, on the other subject...

01:55:56.000 Geoengineering, obviously we've had this huge global warming scandal that came out yesterday.

01:56:00.000 They got caught adding one degree to all the ground surface temperature data.

01:56:05.000 Again, huge scandal.

01:56:07.000 But their solutions to solve global warming, a problem that doesn't exist, there's been no global warming for the past 18 years.

01:56:14.000 And actually they amended the 1930s data To make the 1930s look cooler, so the subsequent temperature increases looked more dramatic.

01:56:24.000 But their solutions are things like, you know, spraying the atmosphere with sulfur, which is linked with acid rain, immune deficiency, and a bunch of other horrors.

01:56:32.000 So the proposals to solve a problem that doesn't exist, global warming, are worse than any speculation about climate change itself.

01:56:42.000 And of course, it's all just a beard for global control of, to basically fund a global government through global taxes, as well as to redistribute your income to people like Al Gore and his partner, Mr. Blood.

01:56:57.000 Blood and Gore.

01:56:59.000 Let's go to Gerald in California.

01:57:01.000 Gerald, go ahead.

01:57:03.000 Hey guys, hey Mr. Watson, hey Mr. Knight, I appreciate everything you guys do.

01:57:08.000 I want to touch on three things, and pardon me if I'm going backwards, but the State of the Union speech by, you know, who we all know as The Crook.

01:57:18.000 Do you guys think the emphasis on the possible power grid failure is a way to pretty much stage an EMP attack on this country as well as, you know, the staged economic crisis that we're looking at?

01:57:34.000 Paul, do you want to comment?

01:57:35.000 Or do you want me to?

01:57:37.000 I'm not sure if it's directly linked.

01:57:39.000 I know the fact is that many wealthy elitists now in more and more numbers are escaping the United States.

01:57:46.000 We had the economist at the Davos Economic Forum just over a week ago come out and say that people are buying property in New Zealand in remote locations.

01:57:56.000 The realtors that they spoke to in New Zealand said that The elitists are citing, you know, concerns about their own personal safety as a result for leaving the United States.

01:58:06.000 And it's something that you hear over and over again, that the wealthy are preparing an escape plan to leave the United States, which could be for a number of reasons, mainly economic.

01:58:17.000 I'm not sure about the EMP angle, but definitely they've got that escape plan. 0.72

01:58:21.000 Well, certainly, they're looking for ways to take over the Internet, and that would be one of the justifications to protect the power grid.

01:58:28.000 That is what they're going to move on, regardless of what he said about education or taxes.

01:58:32.000 It's really about NAFTA, not NAFTA, but the Transatlantic Trans-Pacific Partnerships, and taking over control of the Internet.

01:58:39.000 That's where they're going to be moving.

01:58:40.000 Thanks for joining us.

01:58:41.000 Paul Joseph Watson, stay with us.

01:58:42.000 In the next hour, we're going to be talking to Dr. John Dunn about medical ethics and human experimentation.

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02:00:28.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:36.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:37.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

02:00:39.000 I'm going to be joined in the next segment, Dr. John Dunn.

02:00:41.000 As we pointed out, he's a physician and lawyer.

02:00:44.000 He's going to be talking to us about the medical and ethical issues behind the EPA's continued human experimentation.

02:00:52.000 But in this segment, I want to try to cover some of the people who've been holding to talk to Paul.

02:00:57.000 Paul's no longer with us, but I'll still take your calls and comments.

02:01:00.000 Let's go to Jimmy in New Jersey.

02:01:02.000 Jimmy?

02:01:04.000 Hey, how are you doing, David?

02:01:05.000 Doing good.

02:01:06.000 What's your comment?

02:01:07.000 Um, I actually just, I wanted to ask a question, um, about remote neural monitoring, I guess.

02:01:15.000 I've been reading about it.

02:01:17.000 Um, and literally my cousin who is, uh, in the, uh, the army, he's in Germany.

02:01:22.000 He's recently called me and he's been saying things like, if I hadn't been listening to this show, I would literally think he's crazy.

02:01:30.000 But he's telling me that he's hearing nothing but voices, he can't go to sleep, something happened to him at some point, and it's kind of like a cell phone, like a back and forth thing he's saying, that he hears things talking to him, and kind of answering.

02:01:49.000 Now again, I know it sounds nuts, but then I started reading more about it, and I'm like, how can I even help him?

02:01:59.000 I don't have an answer for you as to how you can help him.

02:02:01.000 In terms of what they're capable of doing, we know that there's a lot of stuff that they're capable of doing that they haven't made public.

02:02:09.000 We do know that they have made public a lot of brain research that they're working on, the Brain Project.

02:02:14.000 We know that they have done a lot of research.

02:02:17.000 In the name of helping disabled veterans being able to remotely control brains by using an implant. 1.00

02:02:24.000 But what you're talking about is kind of an RF feed and of course this is the classic tinfoil hat wearing that the people mock about.

02:02:34.000 Yet we had the guy who shot up the Navy Yard right on the butt of his gun.

02:02:39.000 This is my ELF weapon.

02:02:42.000 Extremely low frequency.

02:02:44.000 We know that, I guess it was about 30 years ago in the information war, that Michael Aquino, the Satanist who works for the NSA, was talking about how it would be very useful to control populations with extremely low frequency.

02:02:59.000 So I personally don't know any details about that, but I know that a lot of people, we've interviewed people who have physicians, who have talked to people that said that they believed that they were being monitored, that they were having information transmitted into their brains. that they were having information transmitted into their brains.

02:03:17.000 And, of course, the brain is electrical.

02:03:19.000 So there's a lot that can be done in that area.

02:03:22.000 And as to whether that's what's happening with your friend, I don't know.

02:03:25.000 But there are very, if I can remember now this article that we, when this came out with the shooting, we talked to a guy who was a physician.

02:03:34.000 And he made some very clear distinctions between people who are just suffering from real schizophrenia versus people who had a late life, sudden onset of hearing these voices, that he believed there was a very clear case that this was something that was being done electronically to those people.

02:03:50.000 So I can't really give you any more of an answer than that, Jimmy.

02:03:53.000 Sorry.

02:03:55.000 Let's go to A.D.

02:03:58.000 in Delaware.

02:03:58.000 Go ahead.

02:04:00.000 Yeah, how are you guys doing? 0.98

02:04:01.000 I know that's a dumb question. 0.85

02:04:03.000 Look, Richard Allen Miller just talks about these chemtrails turning human beings into antennas. 0.99

02:04:10.000 I believe it.

02:04:11.000 When I went to stopthecrime.net, they're talking about the triangulation between smartphones, smart meters, and the entire spy grid.

02:04:19.000 Uh, I believe with these vaccines and some of these other issues, they're trying to get these metals and chemicals into the children, into people quicker, uh, using these, uh, ridiculous measles outbreaks as a way to, like they did the H1N1 and the swine flu, but that's absolutely what is happening.

02:04:38.000 They're worrying, they're working on, just like the, uh, Aurora shooter who was involved in this program, they want to have mind control through electronics.

02:04:48.000 And I believe that they are turning us into human antennas.

02:04:52.000 I believe that the military is the biggest guinea pig laboratory on the planet.

02:04:59.000 And you know what else happens, Dave?

02:05:00.000 Certainly.

02:05:01.000 We're about out of time.

02:05:02.000 We're going to be right back with Dr. John Dunn.

02:05:04.000 And regardless, I have a lot of concerns about the additives going into our food and our vaccines.

02:05:09.000 We know that they're harmful for us.

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02:05:13.000 At the same time, they're restricting civilians' rights to own and purchase firearms.

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02:08:39.000 Welcome back to the Alex Joe Show.

02:08:43.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

02:08:44.000 Joining us now is Dr. John Dunn.

02:08:47.000 Dr. Dunn is a physician for 44 years.

02:08:50.000 He's been a practicing attorney for 36 years.

02:08:53.000 His particular interest is in the philosophy of science and ethics, and of course he looks at scientific misconduct.

02:09:00.000 A good place to look is the EPA.

02:09:04.000 When I first began here at InfoWars, as a story was breaking, this was something that was originally turned up by JunkScience.com.

02:09:13.000 Steve Malloy at JunkScience.com had filed some FOIA requests.

02:09:16.000 He saw some interesting reports that looked kind of strange to him, and he probed a little bit further with some FOIA requests, and he found out That the EPA in North Carolina was actually conducting human experiments, and doing it without informed consent.

02:09:32.000 Doing things that were very dangerous, especially according to what the EPA had testified before Congress.

02:09:40.000 We've got a clip of EPA's director at the time, Lisa Jackson, talking to Congressman Markey at the time, and listen to this dialogue back and forth.

02:09:50.000 They've already worked out what they're going to say, and so Congressman Markey is feeding her information about how this is more dangerous than cancer.

02:09:59.000 What they're talking about is fine particulate matter.

02:10:04.000 2.5 millimeters, or maybe it's nanometers.

02:10:07.000 Anyway, it's small particulate matter, and of course Dr. Duncan clarified that for us, but listen to what they said in the congressional testimony.

02:10:14.000 Cumulatively, what are the benefits of cleaning up particulate matter?

02:10:20.000 Does that help or hurt our efforts to battle cancer?

02:10:24.000 To battle the impact that it has upon the health of people in our country?

02:10:28.000 Particulate matter causes premature deaths.

02:10:31.000 It doesn't make you sick.

02:10:32.000 It's directly causal to dying sooner than you should.

02:10:36.000 It doesn't make you sick, it kills you.

02:10:38.000 Efforts, cost-effective efforts, I might add, to address particulate matter are more people dying sooner than they should.

02:10:44.000 How would you compare it to the fight against cancer?

02:10:46.000 Reducing particulate matter.

02:10:48.000 Yeah, I was briefed not long ago.

02:10:49.000 If we could reduce particulate matter to healthy levels, it would have the same impact as finding a cure for cancer in our country.

02:10:57.000 Can you say that sentence one more time?

02:10:59.000 Yes, sir.

02:11:00.000 If we could reduce particulate matter to levels that are healthy, we would have an identical impact to finding a cure for cancer.

02:11:08.000 That's a pretty good cumulative impact.

02:11:10.000 Yeah, it's also questionable whether or not that's true, but if it is true, What they did in these human experiments, if this is something that kills more people than cancer, if this is something that doesn't just make you sick, but kills you, what they did in their experiments at the University of North Carolina, and then what they subsequently did to children in California, and now what they're starting to do to asthmatic African American teenagers, they're continuing the experiments in North Carolina,

02:11:37.000 If, in fact, it does kill you, not just make you sick, then what they're doing is criminal.

02:11:43.000 Because they're exposing people to over 70 times the limit that they have said would kill you.

02:11:49.000 Let's go to Dr. Dunn and have him break this down for us.

02:11:52.000 Welcome, Dr. Dunn.

02:11:54.000 Thank you for having me.

02:11:55.000 I want to make one correction.

02:11:58.000 I don't practice law.

02:12:00.000 I'm a non-practicing attorney and I may have put that down wrong in the biography that I sent to you.

02:12:06.000 You've got it, and I read it wrong.

02:12:07.000 Sorry.

02:12:08.000 I graduated from law school in 1979, but I never have practiced law.

02:12:08.000 Yes.

02:12:15.000 I just took the bar exams in the places where I lived, just so that I could say that I was a member of the bar.

02:12:22.000 And never had any intention of having clients in the practice of law.

02:12:26.000 I understand.

02:12:27.000 Nevertheless, with your interest in law and as a physician, you're interested in medical ethics.

02:12:33.000 Tell us about this experiment with the EPA and what you have concerns about.

02:12:40.000 We discovered that the EPA admits under oath in a lawsuit that we filed to try to stop the human experiments at the University of North Carolina.

02:12:51.000 That there are 10 medical schools in the United States that have been doing human exposure experiments with air pollutants in laboratories to see if they could cause any harm to the subjects.

02:13:06.000 And they would report it as proof that these air pollutants are toxic.

02:13:15.000 This whole calicoe between Ms. 0.95

02:13:19.000 Jackson and Congressman Markey.

02:13:22.000 But is it set up?

02:13:24.000 And it follows what has been the theme of the EPA for about 20 years.

02:13:30.000 Small particles in the air are toxic, lethal and cause cancer.

02:13:36.000 And there is no safe level.

02:13:39.000 So if you apply an ethical standard to it, you have to consider it to be a situation where human Experiment would not be allowed under any even tortured interpretation of the law in the United States and international law as well as all the recommendations of international groups in regards to human experimentation.

02:14:09.000 The problem of human experimentation was made acutely a consideration As in the post-World War II era, and the Nuremberg trials included trials of about 20 physicians who were involved in the most notorious of the human experiments that the Nazis did.

02:14:35.000 It wasn't the whole list of doctors who may have been involved in human experiments that were unethical and immoral and illegal and criminal, but these were the guys who Organized and led these experimental groups.

02:14:50.000 And they did things like take people's arms off to see if they could transplant them to somebody else. 0.55

02:14:57.000 And of course, naturally the patient died.

02:15:01.000 They did what was considered to be extremely harmful and horrific experiments on breathing.

02:15:11.000 What they did was they They put people in freezing water to see if they could be revived from the point where they were dead.

02:15:20.000 There were all kinds of human experiments that were done by Nazi physicians and it resulted in the Nuremberg Code. 0.67

02:15:27.000 The Nuremberg Code is a list of rules for physicians and researchers in regards to doing a human experiment and it prohibits any human experiment that might be harmful to the subject.

02:15:40.000 You cannot consent To a human experiment that is going to cause harm.

02:15:51.000 That's right.

02:15:52.000 And of course today we're hearing many on the left, even Fox News, saying, well, you know, if you don't want to get your MMR vaccine, I don't need to get your informed consent.

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02:16:03.000 But we've seen this history.

02:16:04.000 It's not just Nazi Germany.

02:16:05.000 This happened in the United States, of course, with the infamous Tuskegee experiments, where they did not inform these people that they were giving them syphilis.

02:16:15.000 Well, you know, race was the reason why the Tuskegee experiments were We're considered to be extraordinarily offensive.

02:16:23.000 But understand this, there were experiments conducted by the CIA in regards to mind-bending drugs like LSD.

02:16:38.000 And they were done, in some cases, on staff of the CIA without their knowledge, just to see what would happen if you gave them a hallucinogenic drug to see what happened and unfortunately one of the CIA staffers when it happened to him it was so upsetting to him that he committed suicide by throwing himself out of a window.

02:17:04.000 Yes, that book was I think a terrible mistake.

02:17:07.000 What was the guy's name?

02:17:10.000 You know his name?

02:17:12.000 You are a real researcher.

02:17:14.000 In any event, there are human experiments With regards to yellow fever, with regards to tuberculosis, with regards to leprosy, that no longer are considered to be acceptable in ethical terms, moral terms, or legal terms.

02:17:33.000 There are criminal offenses involved in exposing someone to a harmful substance intentionally.

02:17:44.000 either by a criminal intent or, in this case, research that might be done on human subjects now. - And hang on, we gotta go to a commercial break.

02:17:55.000 Just let people know before we go to a commercial break.

02:17:57.000 That is a terrible mistake.

02:17:58.000 It was the story of Frank Olson, who was working with the biological chemical experiments.

02:18:04.000 They had brought over many war criminals from Nazi Germany, from Japan, to head up that biological chemical research and as part of Operation Paperclip. 0.78

02:18:15.000 But of course, there's numerous examples, as Dr. Dunn has pointed out.

02:18:18.000 When we come back, we're going to talk about the

02:18:23.000 The EPA has kind of painted themselves into a corner where they either have to admit that they were lying to us about the danger of fine particulate matter 2.5 or they were lying to the patients and violated the Nuremberg rules as well as national criminal prohibitions against that.

02:18:51.000 Dr. Dunn, Give us a quick take on where we're going to go with this after the break when we look at the rules that they violated.

02:19:00.000 Well, I'd like to make sure that the people who are listening understand that small particulate matter is probably not lethal, as the EPA claims it is, and that there was always a wink and a nod about this.

02:19:13.000 They were saying on the one hand to the public and to the Congress, oh my goodness, we need to control small particulate air pollution because it's going to kill As many people as cancer does, when in fact they knew that was a lie.

02:19:27.000 And I would like to talk to people about the research that was funded by the EPA that produced that lie.

02:19:35.000 Absolutely, but the issue is, and I agree with you, I don't think it is nearly as dangerous as the EPA says that it is.

02:19:42.000 They exposed people to levels that were 70 times higher than they said would kill people.

02:19:46.000 It didn't kill people.

02:19:47.000 Nevertheless, what is really important is that they could establish a precedent that they don't need to get people's informed consent for something that they say could kill you.

02:19:57.000 If they can do it for something that isn't a real threat, they can do it for something that really is a threat to your health.

02:20:02.000 Stay with us, we're going to be right back with Dr. John Dunn, talking about medical ethics and informed consent.

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02:24:29.000 I'm David Knight and we're talking to Dr. John Dunn.

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02:24:36.000 He is also a policy and science advisor for Heartland Institute of Chicago and the American Council on Science and Health.

02:24:42.000 He's current editor for JunkScience.com and that's the capacity in which we're calling him right now because it was Junk Science That broke the information about EPA human testing.

02:24:54.000 As we pointed out in the last segment, we had Lisa Jackson, who was the EPA director at the time, talking to Congressman Markey, saying that particulate matter was not something that would just make you sick, it would kill you.

02:25:08.000 Nevertheless, even though we don't believe that that was true, we believe the EPA was overstating the danger of particulate, fine particulate matter, nevertheless, using their own information, they proceeded to do human experimentation on people without their informed consent, not telling them what the dangers are, not telling them that you're going to be exposed to 70 times the fine particulate matter that we say will kill you.

02:25:34.000 That's the issue right here.

02:25:36.000 So whether or not it was something that would actually was a danger to them, nevertheless we have established a precedent where the government can come in and subject you to something that the government believes and says is going to kill you.

02:25:50.000 That's the really dangerous thing here in my opinion.

02:25:53.000 The lack of informed consent and as Dr. Dunn was pointing out, you cannot legally give informed consent for something that is that dangerous, something that is going to permanently harm or kill you.

02:26:06.000 You cannot legally give informed consent for yourself or for your children.

02:26:10.000 Dr. Dunn, you were getting ready to talk as we ran out of time about the actual issues of fine particulate matter.

02:26:16.000 Go ahead.

02:26:18.000 Well, you have to understand that the reason that this is important is that for 20 years the EPA has been increasingly aggressive In regulating emissions from smokestacks and emissions from vehicles, and it was always on the basis of the fact that they were going to save all these lives.

02:26:41.000 That emissions of various kinds had small particulates in them, and that those small particulates, according to the EPA, were proven by research to be killing people.

02:26:56.000 The research that they did is called epidemiology, which is a population study.

02:27:03.000 And it's so uncontrolled that small signs of some effect have to be measured against the nature of the research itself and the methodology.

02:27:15.000 And there's no way that the epidemiology that the EPA uses Can prove anything, and they admitted it under oath.

02:27:22.000 We sued them about the human experiments at the University of North Carolina, and as a part of the initial discovery in federal court, the parties are asked to give declarations under oath, a written statement of their case or their defense of the case.

02:27:42.000 In this case, there were five EPA officials who provided declarations Under oath, in writing, that admitted to a couple of things.

02:27:53.000 First, the physician, Dr. Wayne Cascio, who was in charge of the human experiments at the University of North Carolina, admitted that ten medical schools in the United States and six medical schools in foreign countries were doing human exposure experiments with air pollution.

02:28:15.000 The second admission that I thought was important Was Dr. Martin Case, who was the administrator of the University of North Carolina program, and he said that they did not tell people that they could die from their exposure to small particle air pollution in the experiment.

02:28:33.000 So when they got a consent to do the experiment, the individuals who agreed to the experiment, who were paid some money to do it, they were like college students and people that were Living in the Chapel Hill area who wanted to make a little money from being a subject of an experiment.

02:28:55.000 They were not told that they could die from this or that they could get cancer.

02:29:00.000 And of course they were selecting out people who had respiratory illness, who had heart issues as well.

02:29:06.000 Well some of them were and some of them weren't.

02:29:08.000 And the experiments were more than one.

02:29:10.000 So you could say that the subjects of the experiments varied from the experimental methods from one to another, but you have to remember that this has been going on for 20 years.

02:29:22.000 The experiments on children that we discovered from the Freedom of Information request were actually done in the early 2000s, and they were terminated about 2007 in Southern California.

02:29:36.000 but hang on Dr. Dunn, We've got to take another commercial break and we're going to be right back.

02:29:40.000 We've got a long segment.

02:29:41.000 We'll also take your calls if you have any questions about this particular experiment.

02:29:47.000 It's amazing to me that they're essentially hooking people up to the tailpipe of a diesel engine and observing them.

02:29:55.000 This is what the EPA is doing to people in North Carolina.

02:29:58.000 We'll be back with Dr. John Dunn.

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02:33:27.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:34.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

02:33:35.000 We've been talking to Dr. John Dunn, a physician who is concerned about medical ethics.

02:33:43.000 It's a shame we don't have more physicians who are concerned about that.

02:33:46.000 We're talking about informed consent and we're talking about, as Dr. Dunn pointed out, this is something that's been going on for quite some time.

02:33:54.000 by the EPA in violating people's informed consent.

02:33:58.000 Of course, you can never have informed consent if it is something that is life-threatening.

02:34:03.000 That's part of the Nuremberg Prohibitions.

02:34:05.000 The difficult spot that the EPA is in is they either have to admit that their regulations are far overstated or else they are literally Exposing people to things that could kill them.

02:34:19.000 There's no way that they can justify that.

02:34:22.000 We're going to go back to Dr. Dunn in just a moment.

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02:35:28.000 Dr. Dunn, you were just talking about how this is something that's been going on for quite some time.

02:35:36.000 Before I get your comments, I just want to lay this out again for the audience, what they are doing in these experiments.

02:35:42.000 This is EE News, Energy and Environment Policy News, reports about these experiments.

02:35:48.000 They say that the EPA is recruiting asthmatic African American teenagers now from Raleigh, North Carolina.

02:35:54.000 They're going to get paid $594 for six weekly visits, about $100 a week.

02:36:00.000 To answer questions about the exposures that they're going to get.

02:36:02.000 Now, what are they going to do to these kids?

02:36:04.000 Well, they're going to have the recruits brought into study chambers at the EPA's Human Studies Facility at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill.

02:36:13.000 They're going to be exposed to air pollutants like diesel exhaust, ozone, or concentrated air particles from car exhaust.

02:36:21.000 That's right, they're going to hook these people, they're going to put them in a small enclosure, hook them up directly to tailpipes, And have them breathe that in. 0.89

02:36:30.000 And of course, they're looking for a few asthmatic African-American teenagers.

02:36:35.000 And of course, if you're an adult and you help to rope these kids into this situation, you're going to get a little $35 gift card for bringing them in.

02:36:44.000 How's that?

02:36:44.000 A finder's fee, Dr. Dunn?

02:36:46.000 You know, I sent a letter and called the people in charge of the Institutional Review Board at the University of North Carolina.

02:37:00.000 I said, what are you doing?

02:37:02.000 How could you possibly excuse the idea that, on the one hand, the EPA is telling the Congress and the public that these air pollutants are lethal, toxic, and cause cancer, and there is no safe level, and in a laboratory that is sponsored and approved by the EPA

02:37:28.000 And the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, you're exposing people to these air pollutants in chambers at levels that are clearly higher than what the EPA says is a safe level in the United States.

02:37:43.000 And I want to remind you that the EPA has an interesting approach to this.

02:37:49.000 They really, what they say is that there is no safe level and then every so often they just crank down the level that's acceptable so that they can put another compliance and regulatory rule in effect.

02:38:04.000 Companies and energy companies and coal-fired energy plants are being regulated And then what they do is, a year or two after the first regulation comes in, there's a second regulation that reduces the levels of emissions allowed even more on the theory that there is no safe level for these air pollutants.

02:38:29.000 They want to say that there's no safe level, they have a level that they say will kill you, not just make you sick, and yet they expose these people to 70 times that level.

02:38:37.000 They can't have it both ways.

02:38:39.000 Well, that's true, and the reason that this Think about it this way.

02:38:46.000 Let's say that these subjects are actually being exposed to something that's not really going to kill them, not going to give them cancer, not even going to hurt them.

02:38:54.000 Okay?

02:38:55.000 And then they find out that the EPA says that it causes cancer, there's no safe level, it's toxic and lethal.

02:39:02.000 What do you think is going to be the state of mind of a subject who took $50 or $100 to be a participant in one of these studies?

02:39:13.000 For the rest of his life.

02:39:15.000 Exactly.

02:39:16.000 But of course they're told in this article, EE News are saying, in addition to getting cash, participants are told they'll be helping humanity.

02:39:24.000 Thanks to people like you who've participated in studies, the EPA has set air pollutant regulations that help improve the health of millions of individuals every year.

02:39:33.000 Your participation makes the world a better and healthier place for us all.

02:39:36.000 So they're not doing it just for the children.

02:39:39.000 They're doing it for the herd, and you can lay your life down on the line for the EPA's human experimentation.

02:39:45.000 I don't know.

02:39:48.000 Can I interrupt just a minute on that?

02:39:51.000 There is a specific prohibition to experiments that would cause harm to the subject, regardless of what may be some intended benefit.

02:40:05.000 Exactly.

02:40:06.000 The only exception to a human experiment that might harm the subject is special circumstances where there is a very serious risk that has been identified and the individuals involved in the research themselves decide to expose themselves to the potential toxin or harm.

02:40:30.000 Yes.

02:40:31.000 You cannot ask people from the outside to do it.

02:40:35.000 It is prohibited and it's illegal.

02:40:39.000 And under the common rule, which is the rule that the American federal government has adopted with regards to human experiments, there is no exception.

02:40:50.000 There are states that have adopted codes for human experimentation, and there are international codes and guidelines on human experiments that all follow the same rule.

02:41:01.000 You cannot Expose individuals to something that might cause them harm.

02:41:09.000 Absolutely.

02:41:10.000 And they're not even telling them the level of risk that the EPA says that they're being exposed to.

02:41:15.000 I mean, that's the other part of it.

02:41:16.000 They're not informing them about the level of risk according to the EPA's published judgments.

02:41:23.000 But as you point out, even if they did inform them, it still would be prohibited.

02:41:27.000 It would be unethical and prohibited by the Nuremberg laws.

02:41:31.000 Let's take a couple of callers, Dr. Dunn, who had questions.

02:41:34.000 Let's go to Mama in Oregon. 0.50

02:41:37.000 Go ahead, Mama. 0.99

02:41:39.000 Hello, David, thank you for all the hard work that you do.

02:41:44.000 Oh, no, thank you for listening.

02:41:46.000 What's your question?

02:41:48.000 Yeah, I'm an amateur researcher and all that, but mainly, why do you think that they keep getting away with these experiments that get worse and worse?

02:42:02.000 Mr. Knight, I can't hear a question.

02:42:04.000 I'll repeat that for you.

02:42:05.000 She asked, why do they keep getting away with this?

02:42:08.000 Of course, you were part of the effort to try to get a restraining order to stop the EPA from doing these experiments.

02:42:14.000 We found out about it at UNC in 2012.

02:42:17.000 The judges shut that down and then we subsequently learned, as you pointed out, that they're doing it at 10 universities.

02:42:24.000 They did it in California with children.

02:42:26.000 Now they're back starting a new experiment in Chapel Hill.

02:42:29.000 Her question is, why do they keep getting away with this?

02:42:34.000 There is a tremendous amount of money involved.

02:42:39.000 The Institutional Review Boards are supposed to prevent this sort of experimentation at universities, schools of medicine, and other research facilities sponsored by universities.

02:42:52.000 But you have to realize that billions of dollars are changing hands.

02:42:56.000 And for every experiment that the university approves, They get a cut of the amount of money that's awarded.

02:43:05.000 It's all driven by money.

02:43:08.000 Understand this.

02:43:10.000 The climate campaign is driven by money.

02:43:14.000 20 billion dollars a year are being granted to people who can't establish on the basis of some kind of scientific experiment or even modeling and some of that is really not very scientific. 0.98

02:43:29.000 But what amounts to a situation where they're paying for these whores and the whores are in the institutional review boards. 1.00

02:43:41.000 I sent a letter to the 10 deans of the medical schools that are involved in these experiments and the university medical schools that are involved. 0.97

02:43:52.000 Our University of North Carolina, Rutgers, Rochester, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Washington University in the state of Washington, UCLA, and University of Southern California, and the Lovelace Clinic, which is affiliated with the University of New Mexico.

02:44:11.000 I sent a letter to the deans of all these medical schools, and I said, okay, here's the deal.

02:44:19.000 You and your institutional review board are approving experiments on humans that are illegal, unethical, and immoral.

02:44:29.000 If you are to believe what the EPA says, which is that air pollution kills, is lethal in short or long-term ways, and it causes cancer.

02:44:43.000 Did they reply to you?

02:44:45.000 No, not a single one.

02:44:46.000 Now let me tell you another thing that will really Irritate the devil out of you.

02:44:50.000 There are, in the Congress of the United States, the Senate and the House, 19 positions.

02:45:00.000 One of them is a Democrat from the state of Washington. 0.56

02:45:04.000 His name is Jim McDermott, and he's a crazy leftist, and there's no point in me writing him a letter about anything.

02:45:11.000 He's a psychiatrist, too, so you gotta give him a wide There are 18 other physicians ranging from anesthesiologists to orthopedic surgeons.

02:45:30.000 You can think of the names of some of them.

02:45:32.000 Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist.

02:45:34.000 John Barrasso is an orthopedist.

02:45:38.000 There's a fellow named Andy Harris from Maryland who's an anesthesiologist.

02:45:48.000 Family practitioner from Georgia, Dr. Broon.

02:45:52.000 Anyway, I wrote to all of these physicians and I said, here's what's going on.

02:45:57.000 And we put the case there in front of them.

02:45:59.000 And we said, we can't get the EPA to do anything.

02:46:03.000 The judge says we don't have standing to stop the experiment because we're not being injured by the experiment.

02:46:11.000 And so he threw the case out of court.

02:46:14.000 But you need to do something about this.

02:46:17.000 You want to ask your question about that, too?

02:46:19.000 Yeah.

02:46:20.000 You didn't hear anything from any of them, did you?

02:46:22.000 No, I didn't.

02:46:22.000 Yeah.

02:46:23.000 No, I didn't.

02:46:24.000 And I sent it on my letterhead.

02:46:25.000 It wasn't like they were getting a letter from some goofball who's writing on the back of an old tablet about something that may or may not actually be happening.

02:46:36.000 We gave them all the supportive information.

02:46:40.000 Now, You have to remember that one of the things that I think is important, really important in terms of the evidence in this case, is I have declarations under oath by the individuals who work for the EPA who said, yeah, we did it, and yeah, we're going to continue to do it, and yeah, you know, we know what you're talking about, but here's what Dr. Robert Devlin, who is the Chief Research Scientist

02:47:11.000 For the University of North Carolina program.

02:47:13.000 He said under oath.

02:47:15.000 Well, we know, we know.

02:47:19.000 I'm sorry.

02:47:20.000 We know that the epidemiology doesn't work and that it doesn't prove anything.

02:47:26.000 Hang on, I'm going to let you get that dog under control. 1.00

02:47:28.000 And I'll tell you too that I know that Dr. David Schneer also worked with us.

02:47:32.000 He worked for a long time with the EPA.

02:47:34.000 He was very concerned about the ethics involved here.

02:47:38.000 We had him on the program.

02:47:39.000 Alex Jones interviewed Dr. Schneer.

02:47:42.000 And of course, you contacted, I know all of you contacted the medical board there in North Carolina.

02:47:48.000 Essentially, the medical boards, the elected representatives, you point out, people who are in Congress and the Senate who are doctors, nobody seems to have a problem with this.

02:47:58.000 And it's simply the money, as you point out.

02:48:01.000 It's the money for the universities involved in this research program as well as the EPA and other bureaucracies like them who want to grow their little bureaucratic empire.

02:48:11.000 It's extending power over our lives and meanwhile their partners in academia can easily be bought off regardless of the ethics issues.

02:48:20.000 And to say that we don't have legal standing in here is just absolutely Not true.

02:48:26.000 This is something that affects us even if, at this point, they haven't put us in a booth and hooked us up to the exhaust pipe of a diesel or gasoline engine.

02:48:36.000 Because if they can get away with doing this type of experimentation on people, without their informed consent, experimenting on people doing things to them that they could never get informed consent for because they have said that it will kill people.

02:48:50.000 If we allow that precedent to be established, to stand, that is something that threatens every single person in this country and in other countries where our government has gone and conducted experiments on people in those other countries as well.

02:49:04.000 Well, you know, the important thing to understand is there are licensure laws in the states for any physician who has a license. - Thank you.

02:49:15.000 And the licensure law is usually under the moniker of a medical practice act.

02:49:21.000 And a medical practice act specifically requires a licensed physician to act in an ethical and moral manner.

02:49:32.000 And we contacted the medical boards in the state of Michigan to complain about research that was done at the University of Michigan.

02:49:41.000 And we complained.

02:49:43.000 I wrote letters to the state medical board in North Carolina, and those positions were cleared within a month.

02:49:51.000 Within a month, I had received a letter saying, we don't see any problem here.

02:49:56.000 Yeah.

02:49:57.000 Yeah.

02:49:58.000 Money talks, doesn't it?

02:49:59.000 That is, I think, for anybody out there who's thinking, well, gee, you know, what is it now?

02:50:08.000 How many people are now involved who are complicit An immoral and unethical human testing.

02:50:15.000 Absolutely.

02:50:16.000 Let's see, it's the physicians, the PhD researchers, the EPA, all the people from the EPA who send money to these different programs, the institutional review boards of the medical schools that approve the research, the deans and all the leadership of the medical schools, and the leadership and Licensing board for the professional licensees.

02:50:46.000 It's widespread corruption, isn't it, Dr. Dunn?

02:50:48.000 It's just amazing to see the extent of this.

02:50:51.000 We look at this in so many different aspects of our society where there is absolutely no respect for individual rights, no respect for the rule of law.

02:51:00.000 Stay with us.

02:51:00.000 We're going to be right back taking your phone calls for Dr. John Dunn.

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02:54:07.000 Welcome back to the Alex Choshaw.

02:54:21.000 I'm David Knight.

02:54:22.000 I have Dr. John Dunn, physician and ethicist.

02:54:26.000 We're talking about the EPA's human experiments, why we can't get those stopped, why they keep doing it, what it tells us about the state of America right now.

02:54:36.000 Now I'm going to go back to your calls, try to get as many of you as I can in this last segment that we have with Dr. Dunn.

02:54:42.000 Joanna in Kansas and Aaron in Texas who've been on hold for a long time.

02:54:45.000 I'll try to take your calls in overdrive if you can hold on for just a little bit longer.

02:54:48.000 Let's go right now to Chad in Washington.

02:54:50.000 Chad?

02:54:53.000 Thank you, David.

02:54:55.000 I just wanted to point out on the topic of particulates, I called in earlier about geoengineering, and I just want to point out that regardless of what EPA says, I mean, we're all breathing in the nanoaluminum particles as well, so I just wanted to make that aware, and people should research geoengineering.

02:55:18.000 And just be aware of what they are spraying in the sky because it's not just carbon monoxide.

02:55:25.000 Absolutely.

02:55:26.000 That's true.

02:55:26.000 Thank you for the call, David.

02:55:27.000 I'll let you get back to us.

02:55:30.000 Thanks, Chad.

02:55:30.000 Let's go to William in Alaska.

02:55:32.000 William, you have a question or comment for Dr. John Dunn?

02:55:37.000 Yeah.

02:55:37.000 I just want to say that Everything that's happening right now with geoengineering, with manipulating human DNA, with creating new entities from that, has been going on since the days of Noah in biblical times.

02:55:55.000 This is nothing new.

02:55:57.000 There's nothing new under the sun.

02:55:58.000 The things that have happened in the days of Noah will happen in the days after. 0.67

02:56:02.000 These things are all biblical prophecies that are being fulfilled to this day.

02:56:07.000 All this stuff isn't new.

02:56:09.000 We've learned about these things, and these things are continuing to happen.

02:56:14.000 I just want people to know that this is nothing new.

02:56:17.000 Absolutely.

02:56:18.000 People, please open your eyes.

02:56:20.000 And Alex, please, thank you so much for everything you do.

02:56:23.000 Alex Jones, sir, if you're listening, thank you for everything you do and all the information you put out.

02:56:28.000 But people, please open your eyes.

02:56:30.000 Thank you, William.

02:56:31.000 Yeah, it's absolutely, it's very interesting, and of course the thing that has changed is that they do it out in the open, and as we pointed out, as Dr. Dunn pointed out, even though they complained to medical boards about the ethics of this, even though they complained to universities, to congressmen and senators who are physicians who should know better, nobody does anything to stop it.

02:56:51.000 Let's go to Mr. Lawler in Oregon.

02:56:53.000 Go ahead.

02:56:57.000 Hey guys, I want to thank you for taking the call today.

02:57:00.000 And just to be clear on the EPA, let's just know that on 9-11 they were ordered to let everyone breathe the toxic dust.

02:57:09.000 And so to take their word for it is just like, okay, well, go ahead and take your word for it and see where it gets you.

02:57:15.000 That's true.

02:57:15.000 They told everybody not to worry about that dust as those buildings were falling down there.

02:57:20.000 We saw that a lot of people have had severe and actually have died from the consequences of the dust that they were told.

02:57:27.000 It's just fine.

02:57:28.000 Go ahead and go in.

02:57:29.000 Go ahead.

02:57:31.000 Yeah, and then on top of that, I think with the GMOs and the vaccines and the geoengineering and everything that's going on right now is kind of supercharging things on every level.

02:57:43.000 You might take a vaccine, it will supercharge the GMO.

02:57:47.000 Uh, who knows at this point?

02:57:48.000 That's what I wanted to ask the doctor.

02:57:50.000 Is there any link between those things that can supercharge each other?

02:57:54.000 And then on second of all, uh, why take any of these Fox News or CNN commercials where every single commercial they have on there is first pushing pharmaceutical drugs.

02:58:06.000 And then on top of that, to make it worse, Everything should, why does this stuff come with a trust agreement to where when we get violated by these pharmaceutical companies?

02:58:16.000 Hang on, hang on, let me get his comment because we're just about out of time.

02:58:18.000 You've got about 40 seconds, Dr. Dunn, to wrap it up and give us your final take on this.

02:58:24.000 Let's focus on what we're talking about today.

02:58:27.000 And what we're talking about today is something that's pretty straightforward.

02:58:34.000 That air pollutants are lethal, toxic, and cause cancer, and yet, they're exposing people to those air pollutants in the lab.

02:58:44.000 Either they're lying about the toxicity, or they're lying to the people that... Absolutely right.

02:58:50.000 Thank you, Dr. Dunn.

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02:59:59.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

03:00:06.000 Fix bayonets.

03:00:23.000 We are now entering overdrive with your host, Alex Jones, broadcasting live from the front lines.

03:00:31.000 If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance.

03:00:38.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

03:00:39.000 I'm David.

03:00:40.000 I don't want to take a couple of callers who are waiting to talk to Paul.

03:00:43.000 They've been very patient and hung on for over an hour.

03:00:47.000 Joanna in Kansas and Aaron in Texas.

03:00:50.000 And just to put a book in on what Dr. Dunn was telling us.

03:00:54.000 I just find it absolutely amazing that these people who used to, and of course it's been going on for a very long time.

03:00:59.000 We've got the famous Tuskegee experiments, but of course there's the CIA experiments.

03:01:04.000 So many things that have been done for so many decades, but they did them in the shadows.

03:01:09.000 They did them in the dark.

03:01:11.000 Now they no longer care.

03:01:12.000 Even when you call them out on it, even when you point out that they are doing things for which there is no ethical justification, in violation of criminal laws, they continue to do it.

03:01:24.000 And we don't get any help from the medical boards, we certainly don't get any help from the universities that are participating in this and profiting from it.

03:01:32.000 Bureaucracy, the EPA, which is constantly trying to extend its jurisdiction, extends it into saying that they own all the water anywhere going into the cases.

03:01:42.000 I don't want to go down that whole rabbit trail, but they have tried to exert authority over people's ponds within their property, fining them $75,000 a day in Montana.

03:01:53.000 I mean, it's just absolutely outrageous what our government is doing.

03:01:57.000 But the thing that should really concern people is that they no longer believe that they need to get our informed consent about anything.

03:02:03.000 They can hook people up to the gas pipe out of an exhaust system of an engine and lie to them about the consequences, and that's not a problem, say the medical ethicists.

03:02:13.000 But before I run out of time, let me go to Joanna in Kansas.

03:02:16.000 Joanna, thank you for holding for so long.

03:02:18.000 Go ahead.

03:02:18.000 Oh, yeah.

03:02:21.000 I appreciate the time.

03:02:23.000 Real brief, I'd like to challenge a few things that you said, but commented about our Our authority figures, the doctors and scientists, are doing these things without our permission and not requiring our consent.

03:02:40.000 And I question that, because... You question whether they're doing that or whether we should just let them tell us what to do?

03:02:47.000 No, I'm saying that we are giving them consent.

03:02:53.000 In our own ways, we are actually allowing them to do this.

03:02:57.000 Good point.

03:02:58.000 Yeah, I mean there's nothing that's gone on now that has not taken into consideration.

03:03:03.000 If you take a look at what's been going on in terms of vaccinations and experiments, it usually winds up happening to groups of people or cultures that have been deemed unacceptable or Not a part of the mainstream.

03:03:21.000 That's a very good point.

03:03:22.000 They have contempt for us.

03:03:24.000 They think that we're primitives and they can get away with anything that they want to do.

03:03:27.000 And of course the Constitution is not self-enforcing, is it?

03:03:31.000 Absolutely.

03:03:32.000 So if you take a look at everything that's taken place from the Nazis and the Jewish nation, and you go all the way up to Tuskegee, and it just seems like everyone that is being experimented on has been deemed unworthy or not worth the time or energy.

03:03:52.000 And one of the questions that I wanted to ask the doctor, because he had listed a number of the places where these experiments were taking place.

03:04:00.000 I would like him to tell us what is the population of these areas that he's named.

03:04:08.000 I mean, what is the cultural makeup of these areas where these experiments are taking place?

03:04:13.000 Well, Joanna, we know that this most recent one, they're targeting asthmatic African-American teenagers.

03:04:21.000 That's the demographic that they're going for in Raleigh now with this newest test.

03:04:25.000 And I'm black, so I'm all ready to either get in line or wait for my gift card or whatever, you know?

03:04:31.000 I mean, seriously, the whole idea of it is based upon this very liberal agenda that clearly separates people according to race, gender, value, etc., etc.

03:04:47.000 And we also should be taking a look at what part FEMA is going to play in this. 0.99

03:04:52.000 Very good point.

03:04:53.000 We're out of time.

03:04:53.000 Thank you for holding for so long, Joanna.

03:04:55.000 Aaron in Texas, I'm sorry if you call us tomorrow.

03:04:58.000 I'm sure they'll put you at the front of the line.

03:04:59.000 I'm sorry you held for so long.

03:05:00.000 I wasn't able to get to you.

03:05:02.000 That's it for today's show.

03:05:03.000 Join us tonight, seven central, for the nightly news.

Alex Jones Show - February 09, 2015

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