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00:00:00.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

00:00:02.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:20.000 You want answers?

00:00:21.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:23.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:31.000 Welcome, my friends.

00:00:39.000 Welcome to this live worldwide broadcast, Wednesday, the 18th day of March 2015.

00:00:47.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:49.000 William Benny, the highest level NSA whistleblower ever, who was SWAT team-raided after he spoke to Congress, and who has since vindicated, will be joining us in studio here in Austin, Texas today.

00:01:08.000 We're also going to be talking to the head of the Organic Consumers Association, Catherine Paul.

00:01:15.000 Their organization was set to speak at a major event about food quality and safety at South by Southwest.

00:01:21.000 But Big Pharma and Big Biotech, Monsanto-connected groups, had anyone, not just their organization that was already set six months ago to speak, banned.

00:01:33.000 Gene Giant kicks OCA off a Southwest Food Panel discussion.

00:01:41.000 So this shows what a totalitarian, sanitized, anti-human event this is, and why I've been going after it every day here, as it's a showcase of how the globalists propagandize and try to shape culture.

00:01:55.000 That said, we knew this was coming when they kept the FCC regulations secret, when they wouldn't testify before Congress.

00:02:03.000 And now we've got the 400 pages.

00:02:06.000 FCC chairman concedes, and there's video, that future internet tax is possible after all.

00:02:13.000 And the FCC's proposed those before.

00:02:14.000 The FCC's tried to take over the internet before.

00:02:18.000 They've proposed things.

00:02:19.000 They want cable.

00:02:21.000 All telecommunications.

00:02:25.000 And they got big backlashes.

00:02:26.000 But then when they came forward as the saviors, and George Soros funded 196 million to all the fake leftist groups, why then it was racist, literally, according to them, if you didn't hand over the internet to the government and the corporations that control it.

00:02:41.000 The ultimate Trojan horsey. 0.70

00:02:45.000 That's just some of the news.

00:02:46.000 A backyard burger and wiener roast targeted by EPA.

00:02:50.000 Told you they're banning fireplaces and outdoor roasts in Europe.

00:02:53.000 Now it's happening in the United States.

00:02:56.000 Also, EPA wants to monitor how long hotel guests spend in the shower.

00:03:01.000 Can't make that up.

00:03:05.000 Meanwhile, Detroit businesses face water shutoffs, even if you try to pay for it.

00:03:11.000 This is all part of the deindustrialization program.

00:03:14.000 There'll be no shortage of cream and other goodies up in the Globalist Command Centers. 0.87

00:03:23.000 Continuing, White Privilege Conference Workshop pushes grade school, that's K through 5th grade, lessons about gender, queer, transgender, and gender fluids.

00:03:37.000 That's right, let's teach the first graders about things I can't even say on the air and wouldn't want to say on air.

00:03:45.000 And then we've got just more police videos being released.

00:03:49.000 This one of a woman already being tortured, begging for help so the sergeant starts choking her.

00:03:55.000 And then they did an investigation and said he acted admirably.

00:04:00.000 This is a society breaking down when they defend this type of torture that they call pain compliance.

00:04:07.000 And you watch the video, the cops are all getting off on it.

00:04:12.000 These are bad people, in my view.

00:04:14.000 Very shameful.

00:04:15.000 And defending it, if you're a cop, will help bring down the country, which is part of the Globalist's larger plan.

00:04:21.000 In really big economic news, again I'm going to detail all the things I mention when we come back, China gaining Western allies as development bank partners, a blow to US efforts, and that ties into an article on Infowars.com.

00:04:38.000 Cracks in Washington's empire.

00:04:39.000 Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone, joining the new communist Chinese system. 0.94

00:04:47.000 Also, ice jam pushes up into Ohio Cemetery, toppling headstones.

00:04:53.000 Ice boulder crashes through Wilmington, Delaware apartment building as the new Ice Age looms.

00:05:00.000 Record cold temperatures continue in the east.

00:05:02.000 And we've got the government caught in the trifecta of funding and protecting terrorists.

00:05:06.000 It's all coming up.

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00:08:06.000 It's the plan! 1.00

00:08:07.000 Kill the country! 1.00

00:08:12.000 World government! 0.99

00:08:13.000 The challenge is how to build.

00:08:13.000 It's here!

00:08:17.000 We'll do it.

00:08:18.000 Never before has a new world order had to be assembled from so many different perceptions, or on so global a scale.

00:08:26.000 The governments don't rule the world.

00:08:28.000 Goldman Sachs rules the world.

00:08:31.000 This is, we are going to carve up the world according to the way we want to.

00:08:37.000 Unelected world government looting you.

00:08:40.000 They've exercised power for actual world of global control.

00:08:44.000 I know what North Korea is. 0.97

00:08:46.000 I know what the TSA is meant to be.

00:08:47.000 You want to shut their energy systems off? 0.98

00:08:49.000 You want to break up their families? 0.91

00:08:50.000 If you have so much power, In play.

00:08:54.000 You can do anything.

00:08:55.000 Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. 1.00

00:08:59.000 And basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever. 1.00

00:09:02.000 You understand? 1.00

00:09:02.000 You're living in a science fiction movie. 1.00

00:09:04.000 I'm living in it.

00:09:05.000 The government has just approved the use of a computer chip that would be implanted under your skin.

00:09:09.000 When complete, everyone will have a unique 12-digit identity number.

00:09:14.000 That DNA is stored even without your consent.

00:09:17.000 But I mean, do they point-blank say, we're putting a chip in you?

00:09:21.000 I guess.

00:09:22.000 It was an interior barcode, if you will.

00:09:24.000 This makes my head explode.

00:09:26.000 That your television could be eavesdropping on your conversations and then sharing it over the web?

00:09:31.000 All the cars now have tracker boxes that can remote control your vehicle.

00:09:34.000 In them!

00:09:35.000 The Justice Department is building a national database to track in real time the movement of vehicles around the U.S.

00:09:42.000 storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists.

00:09:45.000 It's like the elite or space aliens or something with a master plan.

00:09:47.000 It's so evil.

00:09:48.000 It's so sadistic. 0.58

00:09:49.000 No, it's the devil.

00:09:51.000 I mean, that's it.

00:09:54.000 This galactic force of destruction that's animating people to do this.

00:09:58.000 The answer to 1984 is 1776.

00:09:59.000 to 1984 is 1776.

00:10:03.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

00:10:06.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are live broadcasting worldwide from Austin, Texas.

00:10:15.000 It is...

00:10:15.000 It is Wednesday, the 18th day of March, 2015.

00:10:18.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:10:20.000 The highest level whistleblower pretty much ever.

00:10:25.000 Not just from the NSA, but from the federal government in the last hundred years, in my summation, is William Binney.

00:10:33.000 He was one of the top guys at the National Security Agency, directed much of their technology systems He, of course, in the last decade, quietly tried to warn Congress and others within the system, got SWAT teamed, got attacked, you name it.

00:10:50.000 He is here in Austin, Texas.

00:10:51.000 He was here for South by Southwest.

00:10:53.000 He agreed to stay an extra day to be in studio with us.

00:10:56.000 We're going to be interviewing him.

00:10:58.000 For some documentary reports we're putting together and live in studio in the third hour.

00:11:02.000 In fact, maybe we should do a document cam or a studio cam shot for TV viewers and show folks William Benny in there in the control room watching the show right now.

00:11:12.000 And again, he'll be in studio with us coming up in the third hour today.

00:11:18.000 So I am extremely excited about that.

00:11:21.000 There's William Benny right there. 0.97

00:11:23.000 We can punch him up. 0.74

00:11:24.000 Give him a little bit of a round of applause.

00:11:26.000 If you are a radio listener, you can go to Infowars.com forward slash show to see the free video feeds right there to add another dimension to the radio broadcast.

00:11:38.000 But this is a radio broadcast, first and foremost, probably 90% of our audience is terrestrial AM and FM.

00:11:45.000 Radio.

00:11:46.000 But we have a large audience as well watching over the internet and some cable and TV systems around the United States and it adds another dimension to it because our radio listeners can then go actually see what we're talking about here on air when we deploy reporters to Europe or to Asia or to Latin America or to right here in Austin, Texas to be covering the different developments here at South by Southwest.

00:12:13.000 We've already seen a protest against the rise of AI systems suppressing humanity.

00:12:18.000 That story went national.

00:12:20.000 We covered it over the weekend.

00:12:21.000 And we're also, of course, covering the fact that it's not just the NSA illegally spying on people.

00:12:26.000 It's Google.

00:12:27.000 It's Microsoft.

00:12:28.000 It's all the big companies have been caught doing it.

00:12:30.000 And they don't get in trouble.

00:12:32.000 And that's because it's part of a revolution.

00:12:34.000 A overall culture of corruption to just change the way this planet operates. 0.99

00:12:41.000 And I'm not so much worried Myself, about artificial intelligence coming after us at this time.

00:12:48.000 I'm worried about the fact that human intelligence is what is controlling and basically pulling the strings on the Panopticon surveillance grid.

00:12:58.000 They've got all these movies coming out, Robo-Apocalypse, that we're going to have the writer on, I think Friday, where It's basically an expansion of maximum overdrive where the appliances and the cars start killing everybody?

00:13:13.000 Well, I'm not really worried about that.

00:13:14.000 I'm worried about the fact that the appliance, the cars, the smart meters, the cell phones, the Hertz Rent-A-Cars, the Samsung TVs admit that they're watching and listening to us.

00:13:26.000 This is just a hidden in plain view Revolution against privacy and the data being gathered can be used to manipulate mass markets and mass human movements.

00:13:37.000 Because if you can surveil everything, you can also add stimulus and then control everything, including predicting the future to a great extent.

00:13:46.000 And Google admits that that's its main mission, is to predict the future and be an AI system.

00:13:51.000 So we're going to talk to William Binney about this in detail.

00:13:54.000 We're going to put out a hashtag in the next few minutes.

00:13:58.000 I haven't been given what that hashtag is yet.

00:14:00.000 We were developing that right before the show started.

00:14:03.000 So you can tweet your questions at RealAlexJones and so that we have those questions ahead of time before Mr. Benny joins us in studio.

00:14:11.000 So tweet your questions at RealAlexJones and again we'll put a hashtag out on that site here in the next few minutes so everybody can do that.

00:14:20.000 But there's the InfoWars.com crew.

00:14:22.000 We can go to that wide shot there.

00:14:24.000 I'm in here directing today and so folks can see our hard-working information warfare elves in there and quietly in the back.

00:14:33.000 William Benning.

00:14:34.000 Very, very exciting to have him here in the InfoWars News Studios.

00:14:40.000 Kathreen Paul will be joining us.

00:14:44.000 She's the head of OrganicConsumers.org, one of the largest organizations reporting on and doing studies on and organizing for the organic choices in this country.

00:14:56.000 They've been set up for months to speak at South by Southwest and with Whole Foods But Big Pharma and Big Agra did not want that so they've been banned.

00:15:07.000 We'll talk about what our presentation was going to be and what their organization's presentation was going to be before they were banned and exactly who banned them.

00:15:15.000 That story is up on InfoWars.com.

00:15:17.000 Gene Giant kicks OCA off South by Southwest food panel discussion.

00:15:24.000 And the new push by the FDA and the EPA is to not label anything and to even remove drug labels and vaccine labels so that we can't hold up an MMR vaccine label when they say it's safe and effective and show you where it says it can give you epilepsy, narcolepsy, cancer, where it says it could kill you, where it says it could cause pancreatitis and then diabetes.

00:15:47.000 It actually says that and we showed that a lot the last few weeks.

00:15:50.000 That will no longer be available.

00:15:52.000 Under the new legislation.

00:15:53.000 So there's a major push to shut down information and then to persecute people like William Benny who left the NSA back in 2001 when they started illegal spying against the American people in non-terror related operations.

00:16:10.000 And he quietly worked through the system, but it just didn't matter.

00:16:14.000 They still came after him, but he defeated that.

00:16:16.000 Others have not.

00:16:17.000 Many people are languishing, including journalists, in jail right now for telling the public things that they had a duty to tell us because they were illegal.

00:16:26.000 But we've gone from them under George Bush in 2005 or so denying that they spied on anybody illegally to now just throwing it in our face.

00:16:34.000 So where is this revolution against privacy going?

00:16:38.000 We'll be discussing that.

00:16:39.000 Okay, here's some of the other news up on InfoWars.com.

00:16:43.000 You can't make this up.

00:16:46.000 The story is from Raw Story, a Democratic Party-run organization.

00:16:51.000 Leftist media claims if you support Second Amendment, you support rape. 0.96

00:16:55.000 The headline actually says, more guns on campus means rapists can rape women more. 0.99

00:17:01.000 No, guns on campus would mean women would shoot rapists. 1.00

00:17:04.000 In areas where concealed carry goes in, rape and robbery and things like carjacking go down massively.

00:17:10.000 In fact, just show people the FBI headlines and the LA Times headline.

00:17:14.000 Gun crime drops, but perception is there's more.

00:17:18.000 It's dropped by 52%.

00:17:20.000 According to the Unified Crime Statistics of the Justice Department since 1992, rapes have dropped in every state where gun ownership has proliferated.

00:17:28.000 Women carrying guns in fanny packs in Florida, they've had major articles there, has caused basically women being raped in parks to go down to almost zero. 0.93

00:17:37.000 But they say that, no, don't want Obamacare? 0.98

00:17:41.000 You are racist.

00:17:42.000 Don't want to turn your guns in? 1.00

00:17:44.000 You want to rape women. 1.00

00:17:45.000 As if criminals that are going to rape women wouldn't already have a gun illegally. 1.00

00:17:51.000 Plus, most rapists physically beat women or hold them down or tie them up. 0.98

00:17:54.000 They don't use guns to rape them. 0.97

00:17:56.000 Just an incredibly bizarre article that we exposed.

00:17:59.000 Leftist media claims if you support Second Amendment, you support rape.

00:18:03.000 Again, we're not left or right.

00:18:05.000 But it's the so-called left, which bears no resemblance to Thomas Jefferson.

00:18:11.000 You know, what you call the father of liberalism in this country.

00:18:15.000 Who was pro-gun.

00:18:17.000 These are totalitarians.

00:18:19.000 Just like the Republican leadership, ladies and gentlemen, are going along with the FCC power grab of the internet.

00:18:27.000 They're going along with the open borders.

00:18:29.000 They're going along with shutting down our power plants without law. 0.69

00:18:32.000 They're going along with putting our military under foreign jurisdiction.

00:18:36.000 Incredible article we're going to be getting into.

00:18:39.000 We're going to continue with really big financial news.

00:18:42.000 China gaining Western allies as development bank partners, a blow to US efforts.

00:18:49.000 Recent shift has pointed out that the rise of China and their aim to become a major part of the new global reserve currency and hence a major force in the new global order.

00:19:02.000 And Dr. Paul Craig Roberts writes about it, former Deputy head of the Treasury Department says cracks in Washington's empire, Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone.

00:19:15.000 With plan to join China-led bank, Britain opens the door for others.

00:19:19.000 That's out of the New York Times.

00:19:21.000 So I got a bunch of articles on that.

00:19:22.000 We're going to be breaking down today as well.

00:19:26.000 Meanwhile, we see record cold temperatures on the East Coast and record dryness on areas of the West Coast.

00:19:32.000 We'll break down and I'll give you my view on what's happening there.

00:19:35.000 Meanwhile, when we return from this break, Pentagon loses track of $500 million in weapons equipment given to Yemen.

00:19:43.000 Yeah, I bet they lost track.

00:19:44.000 That stuff's being sent to Al-Qaeda and ISIS in Syria.

00:19:48.000 Iran, Hezbollah have now been left off the terror threat listing.

00:19:53.000 So they've now removed Hezbollah off the terror listing, but the Tea Party's basically listed.

00:20:00.000 JW gets records that show Al-Qaeda terrorists may have been government's source.

00:20:04.000 Judicial Watch, it's all coming up straight ahead.

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00:24:29.000 And all these questions we're coming up with to discuss once he's in here in studio with us.

00:24:35.000 It's really exciting what's happening.

00:24:36.000 He's seeing a lot of people finally get it.

00:24:39.000 A huge awakening taking place.

00:24:41.000 He was just in Munich, Germany with Oliver Stone.

00:24:44.000 Who is going to do an interview with Snowden for an upcoming huge film.

00:24:49.000 He was just here at South by Southwest giving speeches and saw a huge response.

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00:24:58.000 But he's here taking action and that is so exciting.

00:25:02.000 That's the best part about having this job is that I get to be around such amazing people, such amazing heroes.

00:25:10.000 You know, the average person would get around Kobe Bryant or LeBron James or Brett Favre or somebody and start shaking in their shoes.

00:25:19.000 I could care less.

00:25:20.000 Great, you can throw a basketball in a hoop, you can play football, wonderful.

00:25:24.000 But people that face prison, people that go through persecution, people that give up, you know, directorships, a whole section of the NSA to tell the truth, and then the system tries to suppress them and tries to keep them from the public view, and then the system fails.

00:25:39.000 That is just incredibly, incredibly exciting on so many fronts.

00:25:48.000 And so we're here today to shoot a little mini-documentary with Mr. Benny, and then we're going to have him live in studio with us.

00:25:57.000 But before we go any further, let me just say that I'm also going to be opening the phones up in the next segment specifically On this piece of news, Pentagon loses track, I mentioned this in the last segment, of 500 million in weapons equipment given to Yemen.

00:26:18.000 The Washington Post reports, it's the same story over and over again, oh we lost track in Iraq, oh we lost track in Saudi Arabia, oh we lost track in Qatar, oh we lost track in Yemen, oh we lost track, oh Turkey's giving artillery support to this Free Syrian Army, which is really Al-Qaeda and ISIS.

00:26:35.000 Oh, but now we're buddies with Assad and want to defeat them and are buddies with Iran. 0.74

00:26:40.000 And that leads us to the next story.

00:26:46.000 Iran, Hezbollah.

00:26:47.000 This is out of RT.

00:26:48.000 It's posted on Infowars.com.

00:26:50.000 Iran and Hezbollah.

00:26:51.000 Hezbollah is their militia, worldwide fighting force.

00:26:55.000 Iran.

00:26:55.000 Hezbollah left us off U.S.

00:26:59.000 terror threat listing.

00:27:02.000 So Iran and Hezbollah have been left off U.S.

00:27:05.000 terror threat listing.

00:27:06.000 Now listen, I don't want war with Iran.

00:27:07.000 I don't support some of those moves to do that.

00:27:10.000 But at the same time, if you're going to list conservative libertarian groups as extremists and with terrorists, if you're going to train the Pentagon to take on land rights activists, if you set up Homeland Security to supposedly deal with Hezbollah and Hamas, who do target civilians, You could argue that they are in the terrorist class, but to remove the big enchilada, Hezbollah from the list, shows just how bizarre all of this has really gotten.

00:27:40.000 But don't worry, there are FBI task forces nationwide harassing gun shows with the ATF, trying to find out if an old guy goes and sells some of his guns to raise money.

00:27:50.000 I see these cases all the time.

00:27:51.000 It's almost always some 75, 80 year old guy.

00:27:54.000 His wife's died in one case we covered.

00:27:56.000 He's going bankrupt.

00:27:57.000 He's got to have surgery.

00:27:59.000 He goes in to sell eight, nine guns he's had for decades.

00:28:02.000 He's not a federal firearms dealer.

00:28:03.000 It's legal for him to sell them because he's not a dealer.

00:28:05.000 He's just getting rid of personal guns.

00:28:07.000 And they arrest him.

00:28:08.000 They railroad him.

00:28:09.000 They indict him and have a federal kangaroo jury send him to prison and they die in prison.

00:28:15.000 But Hezbollah is not terrorist.

00:28:19.000 And, oh, we can come up missing $500 million in weapons in Yemen.

00:28:25.000 And I've seen this type of story, no exaggeration, 500 times or more.

00:28:29.000 This is out of Judicial Watch.

00:28:31.000 Judicial Watch gets records that show al-Qaeda terrorists may have been government source.

00:28:37.000 Judicial Watch has obtained records of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that indicate Al Qaeda terrorists who helped plan several U.S.

00:28:43.000 attacks, including plots to blow up Oprah Winfrey Studios and detonate nuclear devices in multiple U.S.

00:28:47.000 cities, was a confidential source and informant for the government.

00:28:52.000 Well, of course, most of these guys are, and probably never planned any of this, and they just burned him.

00:28:56.000 I mean, do you really believe this guy had nukes?

00:28:59.000 It's come out in the New York Times that almost every terror attack that they've cooked up has been with a mentally ill person or some patsy who was an informant, who they say, yeah, take the bomb over here, and then they set them up.

00:29:13.000 I'm not saying there aren't radical Islamist or terrorists.

00:29:16.000 Oh, there are.

00:29:16.000 And they're under the employ of the West.

00:29:19.000 The West works with them. 0.70

00:29:21.000 To destabilize and they use their threat as a way to take liberties and promote illegal spying.

00:29:27.000 But when it comes to people they bust, they don't throw away good terrorists they could be using. 1.00

00:29:32.000 They only bust patsies and chumps and fools. 1.00

00:29:34.000 So listen, if you're an Arab American or Muslim American or Brit or whatever, I've seen this literally hundreds of times. 1.00

00:29:42.000 If you get approached to be part of a drill, of Muslims bombing something, do not be part of it, because believe me, you're going to end up in the supermax prison. 1.00

00:29:50.000 So don't be stupid. 1.00

00:29:52.000 All right, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

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00:33:44.000 If you are receiving this transmission live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, you are the resistance.

00:33:54.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:33:58.000 One last breath before wind blows.

00:34:00.000 Better raise your ears.

00:34:02.000 Sound of wolves knock at your door. 0.82

00:34:05.000 Lock up your wives and children now. 1.00

00:34:07.000 The horsemen are drawing near us.

00:34:24.000 Leather steeds they ride.

00:34:26.000 Always loved to play this song written by Dave Mustaine of Megadeth.

00:34:31.000 And of course played by Metallica, The Four Horsemen.

00:34:36.000 Lock up your wife and children now, it's time to wheel the blade. 0.94

00:34:41.000 But we live in the 21st century where 90 plus percent of warfare is information warfare.

00:34:49.000 And the sword that wields the greatest strength is the truth.

00:34:53.000 And an empire of lies telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

00:34:57.000 That is Ron Paul's paraphrase of George Orwell.

00:35:01.000 In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

00:35:08.000 And again, William Binney, biggest whistleblower in modern history, not just biggest NSA whistleblower, is here.

00:35:16.000 And he was in the control room, a great gentleman, but I had him move to the conference room because it was so distracting to me to look at the monitor and see William Binney in there, plus the crew.

00:35:23.000 I mean, this is like having a movie star here for us.

00:35:27.000 You know, we've had a lot of movie stars on the show.

00:35:29.000 They're great people.

00:35:30.000 A lot of them are patriots we've had on, using their celebrity to expose tyranny.

00:35:33.000 But I'm a lot more excited about William Benny being here than some of the top celebrity stars I've gotten to know over the years.

00:35:41.000 Because this guy, they tried to put him in prison.

00:35:44.000 They tried to ruin his life.

00:35:47.000 He basically resigned because they wouldn't stop illegal spying.

00:35:50.000 He tried for a decade in the system to get them to stop it.

00:35:53.000 And then they came after him when he was doing it inside the system.

00:35:56.000 So this is a tyranny.

00:35:58.000 And if William Binney can be destroyed, we can all be destroyed.

00:36:02.000 But if he can be vindicated, which he has been, and not be stopped from getting his message out, it is a huge Battle of Trenton-level victory.

00:36:13.000 When we got the UN documents five years ago that the carbon tax was a plan to shut down the third world and the first world and only let select corporations operate, when we got the secret treaty and it became national news, we had Lord Moncton on, that was a huge, critical, Death Star destroying event.

00:36:31.000 Well, people like William Binney and Snowden going public is another potential Death Star event, to use a Star Wars allegory, where you blow up a major criminal operation and degrade and frustrate criminal forces in government and corporations that want to use ubiquitous spying To dominate markets, but also protect themselves from criminal prosecution to be aware of what other areas and other agencies are doing.

00:37:00.000 And we've now learned that the Parliament, and the Congress, and the Senate, and the President, and they're all spying on each other.

00:37:06.000 It's a panopticonic big brother arms race that we're in the middle of right now that's being deployed against the people, and it's wrong.

00:37:17.000 So again, I go off into that subject because it's so important.

00:37:21.000 And I just read to you three different mainstream news articles where our government and other groups are funding and protecting known terrorists from Al Qaeda, to the Iranian Hezbollah, to other organizations.

00:37:37.000 Why are they doing it? 0.95

00:37:40.000 All the NSA spying, all the illegal garbage. 0.98

00:37:45.000 We still had 9-11. 0.56

00:37:48.000 In fact, we learned the NSA was actually tracking them legally in that case, because they were foreigners, and that nothing was done with it. 0.99

00:37:53.000 The FBI knew and was ordered to stand down.

00:37:55.000 I've interviewed Colonel Schaefer and others.

00:37:59.000 Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, who was there and watched the communiqués, saw the same stuff that C-Bell Edmonds, another FBI translator, whistleblowing on NSA information, Where our government was in command at higher levels, basically, of Al-Qaeda, and protecting them, and giving them arms, and laundering money.

00:38:19.000 Everything she first broke her gag order on this show five, six years ago, and on other shows, that she was attacked for, is now passé!

00:38:30.000 So now we've reached that Rubicon moment where it's out in the open, what do we do?

00:38:36.000 I'm gonna ask William Binney about this coming up in the third hour.

00:38:39.000 What is this paradox like to have them years ago deny this was happening when he knew good and well it was, he was there at the highest level seeing it, and then to now have them go, okay, we're doing it, but we're going to reform it by legalizing it.

00:38:51.000 We're going to retroactively go back and say, it's okay that we committed these crimes.

00:38:55.000 I mean, Obama yesterday Put out a directive, not a law, the President can't make law, saying we're now exempt from all FOIA requests, period.

00:39:04.000 Really, that's the National Security Act of 47, and they dovetailed with it the Open Records Act, so that if you're going to have secret stuff, it's got to be kept on record to be released later, so that people don't commit crimes now, thinking they've got a blank check.

00:39:20.000 Well, we've now entered that sector.

00:39:23.000 They want to take the drug labels off.

00:39:25.000 They want to take the food labels off.

00:39:27.000 They want to shut down people's speech at South by Southwest on GMO or NSA.

00:39:32.000 They're moving on every front to not let us have the information.

00:39:36.000 And now the FCC has power grabbed the internet from the outside Comcast threat of wanting to take over the web.

00:39:43.000 Oh, the FCC will come in and save it. 0.62

00:39:45.000 When they said before they want to control it, and now FCC Chairman concedes future internet tax is possible after all, that's a CNS news.

00:39:54.000 So just because one plan's bad by Comcast and others, doesn't mean the solution to that plan is good.

00:40:03.000 Classic bait and switch.

00:40:05.000 I want to hit this financial news, then go to your calls.

00:40:08.000 Here's the toll-free number on this worldwide Wednesday edition.

00:40:15.000 800-259-9231.

00:40:16.000 Here's the only catch.

00:40:19.000 First-time callers today.

00:40:20.000 It'll be that for William Binney as well.

00:40:22.000 Give you a chance to get involved.

00:40:23.000 And it's on one of the subjects I just raised here.

00:40:27.000 I've raised a lot of subjects.

00:40:28.000 I want you to chime in on criminal elements of the government financing, protecting terrorists to menace us into submission.

00:40:35.000 FCC documents now out, talks about taxing authority, applying the same powers they've done to broadcast radio and TV to all telecoms.

00:40:44.000 I mean, this is a nightmare.

00:40:47.000 We're also going to get into some of the other power grabs that are taking place.

00:40:53.000 But before we do that, Again, the number for first-time callers is 800-259-9231, and we will get you up and on the air on this live Wednesday edition, 800-259-9231.

00:41:07.000 I'm gonna get Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former chief editor of the Wall Street Journal, father of Reaganomics, on probably tomorrow, the next day, maybe Sunday, if we can't get him the next two days, on the Sunday broadcast, 4 to 6 p.m.

00:41:25.000 China gaining Western allies as development bank partners.

00:41:29.000 A blow to U.S.

00:41:30.000 efforts.

00:41:31.000 And so China's created this new global development bank.

00:41:36.000 And again, I'm not saying the Communist Chinese are laudable or great people, their leadership, but it is a separate power group to Goldman Sachs and J.P. 0.99

00:41:46.000 Morgan that control the central banks of Europe and the United States, the private Federal Reserve.

00:41:50.000 So it is competition of a sort.

00:41:53.000 And we've seen the Rockefellers and others investing tens of billions the last year in this Chinese investment-run bank.

00:42:01.000 Kind of a challenge to the IMF or World Bank.

00:42:03.000 So that shows a creeping towards the exits, a hedging of the bets while Western powers accelerate global currency devaluations and a currency devaluation war.

00:42:17.000 And yes, the world Reserve currency is still the dollar, but when it goes belly up, it will have seismic effects here.

00:42:27.000 We're already seeing deflation in some areas because of recessionary and depressionary elements in select areas of the economy, but it's unbalanced.

00:42:37.000 Some people are in a depression, others are in a recession, others are in high cotton.

00:42:41.000 In this managed, stage-managed economy, which Rolling Stone two years ago had the headline, everything is rigged.

00:42:46.000 Interest rates, the globalists get free money, the public gets it at, you know, 5, 6, 7, 8 percent.

00:42:52.000 I mean, you're told it's down there at near zero, but that's not what the general public gets.

00:42:55.000 I've got perfect credit, went and checked about getting some credit last week.

00:42:59.000 I mean, near perfect credit, we're like 5 percent.

00:43:03.000 People are like, wow, that sounds great.

00:43:04.000 No, it's not.

00:43:05.000 The banks get it at zero.

00:43:09.000 So I should have access to something at one or two percent.

00:43:13.000 Just the right for them to make a profit for processing.

00:43:16.000 But that's the type of stuff that's going on.

00:43:21.000 And it's very discriminatory and the world sees this and they're scared.

00:43:25.000 So they're not moving away from dollar hegemon because they want to bring down the United States.

00:43:31.000 It's like cancer that's in your heart or something.

00:43:34.000 You cut it out, you die.

00:43:35.000 Nobody really wants the U.S.

00:43:37.000 to go under, globally, because if it does, it'll cause a worldwide depression of biblical proportions.

00:43:44.000 There aren't any economists that disagree with that.

00:43:49.000 They're now using globalization and that we're all interconnected as a way to abuse everyone and make everyone accept dollar devaluation.

00:43:57.000 So we're seeing recession and depression in some costs, but in a lot of costs, restaurants, a lot of other commodities, you name it, education, I mean just hundreds of other areas, we're seeing major inflation.

00:44:11.000 Major, major, major!

00:44:14.000 I mean, just last year, for St.

00:44:16.000 Patty's Day, at the same store, I bought a package of the same organic corned beef for, I think it was $9, memory serves.

00:44:26.000 Guess how much the same package of corned beef was for a party I had with friends and family last night?

00:44:31.000 Guess how much each package was last night?

00:44:33.000 Same amount, same corned beef.

00:44:35.000 Excellent corned beef, I'm not swattering.

00:44:38.000 It was $19 and change.

00:44:42.000 Basically double what it was 12 months ago.

00:44:46.000 Now that isn't inflation.

00:44:47.000 I don't know what is.

00:44:50.000 Here's another headline.

00:44:51.000 Cracks in Washington's empire.

00:44:53.000 Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone.

00:44:56.000 England, Germany, France and Italy have all invested With Japan, Switzerland, Luxembourg, South Korea, and others, Australia, you name it, in the new Chinese-led Asian Investment Bank.

00:45:10.000 Neither Republicans nor Democrats are even making this an issue.

00:45:16.000 China gaining Western allies as development bank partners, a blow to U.S.

00:45:20.000 So, with plan to join Chinese-led bank, Britain opens door for others.

00:45:20.000 efforts.

00:45:25.000 That's New York Times.

00:45:28.000 That's the kind of stuff that's important.

00:45:31.000 Another hero, nothing compared to William Binney, who brought out a lot of stuff that actually threatened the entire system, but he's won two Nobel Prizes, and that's, of course, Joseph Stiklitz.

00:45:48.000 And he was the head economist at the World Bank and he's come out and said basically everything I've said.

00:45:52.000 He's been on the show five or six times over the years.

00:45:55.000 So it's not just Alex Jones up here waving his arms around saying this.

00:45:59.000 This is a fact.

00:46:00.000 This is going on and worldwide governments aren't trying to reform this or stabilize things.

00:46:06.000 They think totalitarianism is going to somehow at the barrel of a gun and the barrel of Big Brother surveillance glue all this tyranny and this inequity together.

00:46:19.000 Meanwhile, they're involved in a bunch of balkanization, racial balkanization, hyping up racial differences, cultural differences, in the name of bringing unity, but we know it's bringing division, and it's come out in government documents we've covered, that the plan is to divide the people against each other, so the establishment, the crony capitalists, who are not free market, can loot the living daylights out of us.

00:46:42.000 So that's all coming up.

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00:54:25.000 All right, I'm going to cut off the legendary Johnny Cash to go to your calls.

00:54:28.000 But I was just back there during the three-minute break while they're interviewing William Benny for a documentary that I'm making.

00:54:34.000 Documentary piece.

00:54:36.000 And it just hit me.

00:54:41.000 Praise God!

00:54:43.000 I get to know Ron Paul, Rand Paul, I get to know William Benny, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the former He's the head of Reagan's economic operation.

00:54:52.000 He's an icon of economists.

00:54:55.000 And I was just, it was popping in my head the rush of hundreds and hundreds of patriots that are fighting the New World Order that I know, who are extremely prominent and are prominent.

00:55:06.000 And then the millions of you out there fighting tyranny, we're all just as important.

00:55:10.000 And I was thinking how many good men and women there are.

00:55:13.000 And how people are rising up and fighting the tyrants.

00:55:16.000 They just don't let the general public know that because other people would know we're starting to win.

00:55:23.000 And what matters is in the end we win the hearts and minds.

00:55:28.000 Because we're going to go through some hell, folks.

00:55:30.000 What's important is in the end the New World Order falls.

00:55:33.000 And we're building the opposition that was a seed, it is now a grove.

00:55:42.000 And we can take those seeds and plant those and literally repopulate the planet with liberty.

00:55:48.000 To use that allegory.

00:55:50.000 It's exponential.

00:55:51.000 We've gone way past the mustard seed point, to the huge mustard tree, to now mustard seeds planted all over the world.

00:55:57.000 I mean, the globalists are in trouble.

00:55:58.000 They're scared.

00:56:00.000 And they should be.

00:56:01.000 Because their plan is so evil, so anti-human.

00:56:05.000 And once humanity wakes up to something, change is fast.

00:56:09.000 So, new world order?

00:56:12.000 The battle is joined.

00:56:15.000 And I'm humbled to be in the company, continually, of such amazing people.

00:56:21.000 Like the lady we have coming up in the next hour.

00:56:22.000 Let's go to Jerry in New Jersey, then Jackie, Don, Hugh, and Adam.

00:56:27.000 Jerry, you're on the air.

00:56:29.000 Alex, my brother, God bless you and thank you for all that you do.

00:56:33.000 Please don't.

00:56:36.000 Couldn't help myself.

00:56:37.000 Total agreement with the full onslaught of tyranny that's coming in all the different angles and I do tell people, I do, I start up conversations with tall strangers and I wanted to ask you about where I really hit the wall and argumentatively as a tactic, what You do when you hit this.

00:56:57.000 I think that I can convince people of what's being done.

00:57:01.000 Where I hit the wall with people is intention.

00:57:05.000 You ask, you talk to Republicans in particular because it's their party that's supposed to actually have some standards.

00:57:12.000 I don't think the Democrats have any at all, other than pure communism. 1.00

00:57:18.000 It gets to where they say, how can these Republicans be so gutless and so stupid? 1.00

00:57:23.000 And I try to say, no, it's not stupid. 1.00

00:57:25.000 It's not gutless. 0.98

00:57:26.000 Gutless means they have good intentions, but don't have the guts to actually follow through on them.

00:57:31.000 I mean, here's how it works.

00:57:31.000 Sure.

00:57:32.000 Here's how it works.

00:57:33.000 In the last 50 years or so, they put a committee system in.

00:57:35.000 They always had committees, but they've got it where it's a leadership position where you get power the longer you're in.

00:57:41.000 And so all they've got to do is control Maybe two dozen Republicans in the House and Senate total over those key committees and chairmanships, and then it's a dictatorship.

00:57:52.000 And so no matter what the Republican grassroots does, that are pretty good people on average, you can never change it because John Boehner blocks it all.

00:58:01.000 And so, if you can't convince them, then you can't convince them of the sun coming up in the morning, because it's all right there happening in front of their eyeballs every single day.

00:58:12.000 So that's how they're doing that.

00:58:14.000 That's how they're getting that job done, Jerry, is that they have successfully taken the senators away from the states.

00:58:23.000 I mean, until 1913, senators were elected by the legislatures.

00:58:27.000 So they were creatures of the state.

00:58:28.000 Well, now they're their own imperial gods.

00:58:31.000 Yeah, no, that's an excellent point.

00:58:32.000 hill so that's a big problem get the senators back to the states uh you know do things like that and you'll turn the corner anything else jerry yeah no that's that's that's an excellent point um i guess i'm actually heading for a town hall tonight with a state representative well great job brother keep it up talk to them tell them that you know we're gonna lose everything and they don't get going people are looking for leadership more calls coming up back in 60 seconds you you're up next alex jones here

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01:00:21.000 Well, so does he.

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01:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:31.000 We're now into hour number two.

01:00:39.000 I will get to Hugh, Adam, Jackie, Don, Mariah, everybody.

01:00:43.000 Our next guest is just joining us for about 20 minutes, so those I don't get to now, I'll get to after that.

01:00:47.000 Now we've got major censorship by the globalists trying to shut down all sorts of information getting out.

01:00:53.000 Former top NSA leader, William Benny, will be joining us in studio in the third hour today.

01:01:00.000 Hugh in Ohio, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:01:05.000 Hi Alex, Hugh Collins from Toledo, Ohio.

01:01:09.000 I have a question for you.

01:01:10.000 Rodney Stitch is one of my heroes.

01:01:13.000 I've never heard you mention him.

01:01:15.000 My question is, what do you think of his work, and why hasn't he been more influential?

01:01:21.000 Okay, I gotta be honest with you.

01:01:23.000 I'm having one of those moments.

01:01:24.000 I've heard the name a lot over the years.

01:01:26.000 I think I know who he is, but I can't remember.

01:01:28.000 I'm getting old.

01:01:29.000 I'm not as sharp as I used to be when it comes to memory.

01:01:32.000 Who is Rodney Stitch?

01:01:35.000 Well, he started as an FAA inspector, and he wrote the book Unfriendly Skies.

01:01:41.000 All about chemtrails?

01:01:44.000 Yeah.

01:01:45.000 You know, I think he might have been on my show or the news years ago, but I do want to get him on.

01:01:49.000 So, stuff just falls through the cracks.

01:01:52.000 Great point.

01:01:53.000 You should do show tips.

01:01:54.000 Tell us who you want to hear on the show.

01:01:57.000 Well, he would be great, and if you can get him there.

01:02:01.000 He's a pretty old guy now.

01:02:03.000 He's written a lot of books.

01:02:04.000 One is called Defrauding America, and there's another one called Drugging America.

01:02:08.000 His output is voluminous.

01:02:11.000 Yeah, I think he's been on the show now that you say it.

01:02:15.000 It would be great if you could get him.

01:02:17.000 You bet.

01:02:18.000 What else you calling about, brother?

01:02:21.000 That's really all I have right now, Alex.

01:02:23.000 I'm a big fan of your show.

01:02:25.000 Secret 12 is great.

01:02:26.000 God bless you, brother.

01:02:27.000 Appreciate you calling.

01:02:28.000 That's a great idea.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, ShowTipsAtInfoWars.com.

01:02:31.000 By the way, just hashtag InfoWars for your questions for William Benny.

01:02:39.000 That way, I don't know.

01:02:40.000 I tend to do that once the guest is on, and then we rush to the end, and I only get the questions at the end.

01:02:45.000 If you want to get your questions into William Benny, please send them now.

01:02:48.000 Tweet them at RealAlexJones with the hashtag InfoWars behind it.

01:02:53.000 Don in Oklahoma, thanks for calling.

01:02:55.000 You're on the air.

01:02:58.000 Don on Oklahoma, Alex, it's my opinion, what I should be doing is concentrating on my county, constitutional sheriffs, new councilmen, commissioners, and so forth.

01:03:08.000 My question to the guest is, what he might could share or let me, help me to look for on a county level?

01:03:16.000 That's my question.

01:03:17.000 Thank you.

01:03:18.000 That's a great question.

01:03:19.000 I'll ask William Binney that when you come up later, or when he comes up later on the broadcast, when your question comes up.

01:03:26.000 I think I should write that down.

01:03:28.000 What do you look for for government spying on the local level?

01:03:30.000 Well, you look for cell towers that are smaller.

01:03:33.000 In my experience, that are not connected to the telephone company, those will be basically stingray platforms to steal your data.

01:03:42.000 They're totally illegal.

01:03:43.000 The police and feds denied them for years.

01:03:45.000 We were covering it a decade ago.

01:03:46.000 Now it's mainstream news.

01:03:47.000 Again, they got caught lying to us.

01:03:51.000 The threat fusion centers give police these tools and teach them how to engage in illegal activity.

01:03:58.000 And they get the cops in and tell them it's all legal and see who will go along with it, who is influenceable, who can be federalized, who can be given an extra paycheck as an auxiliary fed, as a deputy fed.

01:04:10.000 And that's the federalization that's going on right now.

01:04:15.000 And that's why we're battling that as hard as we can.

01:04:21.000 And Adam, and Matt, and Mariah, and many others.

01:04:24.000 First time callers today, 800-259-9231.

01:04:25.000 We're going to have our guest on for a couple of segments dealing with censorship.

01:04:34.000 And then we're going to come back to your phone calls at the bottom of the hour.

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01:08:17.000 Catherine Paul heads up Organic Consumers, a major nationwide organization that checks organic a major nationwide organization that checks organic claims, that monitors government, federal and state, and global activities. .

01:08:42.000 She and others from her organization have been set for months to speak at a food conference, the Future of Food and Food Safety, that Whole Foods was involved with.

01:08:51.000 It's South by Southwest, one of the biggest conferences in the world, if not the biggest now.

01:08:55.000 It's just huge.

01:08:56.000 Hundreds of thousands show up.

01:08:58.000 They were banned.

01:09:00.000 And when she joins us, I want to do a presentation for listeners to put it in context.

01:09:05.000 Gene Giant kicks OCA off South by Southwest food panel discussion.

01:09:10.000 Every time they try to censor us, we're just going to double down.

01:09:13.000 I want you guys to print me, please.

01:09:16.000 Coke spends millions to teach people that sugar is good for you.

01:09:21.000 That was out a few days ago.

01:09:22.000 I want the article out of the Washington Post, please.

01:09:24.000 In my folder.

01:09:25.000 I forgot to tell you, sorry.

01:09:27.000 We just do everything here on air.

01:09:28.000 Total transparency.

01:09:29.000 Direct the show, everything.

01:09:30.000 That's why it's a popular broadcast.

01:09:32.000 It's teleprompter free.

01:09:33.000 I want that Washington Post from Monday, please.

01:09:36.000 Uh, where they said that, uh, the feds are moving to not have labels on drugs and vaccines.

01:09:41.000 There is a move because you're waking up, we're waking up, we're winning, to shut everything down.

01:09:47.000 And that ties in with FCC Chairman concedes, there's a video on Infowars.com from CNS News, FCC Chairman concedes future internet tax is possible after all.

01:09:59.000 Now that we got the actual regulations, not law.

01:10:03.000 We don't get law from Congress now, we get it from Obama appointees.

01:10:07.000 Even though most of the commission didn't like it, you know, he's the boss, he's the little dictator.

01:10:11.000 And so, they talk about taxing to fund enforcement.

01:10:17.000 And they said they're going to follow the model that they've used with the FCC on broadcast AM, FM, UHF, VHF television.

01:10:26.000 Everybody better be grabbing their backside and protecting it, because here comes the FCC.

01:10:31.000 It'll take a few years, and they'll have Congress debate it, and they'll change some of it.

01:10:35.000 It'll be on a big lobbying chopping block, fighting over the future of everything and the Internet, but it's here. 0.84

01:10:40.000 So I hope all you snot-nosed Soros idiots that ran around bludgeoning me on the head and attacking me in publications and national TV saying I'm against net neutrality, I'm against Internet freedom, I hope you're pleased with what happens. 0.89

01:10:56.000 I hope you're happy with taxing and regulating the Internet, because here it comes. 0.99

01:11:01.000 I hope you're really proud of yourselves.

01:11:04.000 You're totalitarians.

01:11:08.000 It is so sad.

01:11:09.000 George Soros, $196 million.

01:11:13.000 To fake leftist organizations in the last year to run around saying protect the internet, protect the internet from Comcast.

01:11:20.000 Comcast now has a federal agency that it's manipulated in the past that's let them consolidate control for the other bigs.

01:11:28.000 Oh, please don't throw me in the briar patch, Comcast said.

01:11:31.000 Oh, please don't pass this net neutrality.

01:11:33.000 See, Comcast is against it.

01:11:35.000 That's how they passed the Federal Reserve.

01:11:37.000 That's come out in mainstream news decades ago.

01:11:39.000 Congressional hearings.

01:11:40.000 The big bank associations got together, said, oh, we don't want a Federal Reserve to rein us in.

01:11:46.000 Don't do it.

01:11:48.000 When they are the private shareholders.

01:11:50.000 Oh, don't do it.

01:11:51.000 Please don't.

01:11:56.000 Reverse psychology works very well on childlike brains.

01:12:00.000 So that's coming up.

01:12:01.000 We've got unprecedented Starbucks.

01:12:04.000 Every time you go to Starbucks, I will not go to Starbucks.

01:12:07.000 I'm officially boycotting Starbucks for their anti-gun stance and everything else.

01:12:11.000 They'll chat up about, you know, you've got white privilege if you're white or if you're black. 0.91

01:12:15.000 I'm sorry about your oppression.

01:12:18.000 This is turning everything into a giant re-education camp, a giant Sensitivity Training System.

01:12:26.000 Starbucks employees should discuss race relations with customers.

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01:12:30.000 That dovetails with White Privilege Conference Workshop, pushes grade school children age 5 a lesson about genderqueer, this is quote, transgender folks, lecturing elementary school age children about gay, lesbian and transgender issues and about gender fluid and how to share your gender fluids.

01:12:51.000 Again, make this up.

01:12:52.000 I'm going to be covering that coming up some of the next hour.

01:12:55.000 And the EPA tyranny is a record cold as ice jams wreck apartment buildings and more.

01:13:03.000 Backyard burger and wiener roast targeted by EPA has the potential for global application.

01:13:12.000 The UN looks to us for their global tyranny.

01:13:15.000 EPA wants to monitor how long hotel guests spend in the shower. 0.83

01:13:18.000 That's just some of what's coming up.

01:13:21.000 And again, I just mentioned this, White House exempts itself from FOIA requests.

01:13:25.000 See, everything's going secret.

01:13:28.000 And pretty soon, I'll have to have old MMR shot if this legislation passes.

01:13:34.000 They say they may just do it regulatory.

01:13:36.000 Who needs legislation anymore?

01:13:38.000 Where MMR will not have an insert or tell you the adverse reactions or any other drug.

01:13:42.000 They'll have drug ads now not telling you, where they talk for 30 seconds how great it is, and then 30 seconds it'll kill you deader than a hammer.

01:13:49.000 Or make you have a heart attack, or go crazy, or murder your kids, or... I mean, you hear all those ads.

01:13:57.000 Not anymore, if they have their way.

01:13:59.000 I mean, they're making a totalitarian move because confidence in them is collapsing.

01:14:03.000 And you don't have to believe Alex Jones.

01:14:05.000 Congress has a 7-9% approval rating, depending on which national poll.

01:14:10.000 This is really good news, because this isn't our government.

01:14:14.000 At the highest levels.

01:14:17.000 All right, let's go to your phone calls.

01:14:18.000 Let's talk to Adam in California, or California as the gubernator would say.

01:14:23.000 You're on the air, Adam.

01:14:24.000 Welcome.

01:14:26.000 Hi, Alex.

01:14:27.000 I'm your auxiliary reporter that did the Comedy Central bit of them attacking your website.

01:14:33.000 Yeah, you caught them in the subliminal message.

01:14:35.000 Good job.

01:14:36.000 What's your name?

01:14:37.000 Adam.

01:14:38.000 Well, good job, brother.

01:14:40.000 Yeah.

01:14:41.000 Have you seen the epic rap battle where you rap against Ray Kurzweil?

01:14:47.000 We have seen that.

01:14:48.000 I never aired it.

01:14:49.000 There's just so much of this stuff.

01:14:50.000 I mean, I thought that was actually a fairer piece.

01:14:53.000 What did you think?

01:14:54.000 It was.

01:14:55.000 They gave you a lot of respect.

01:14:56.000 I mean, just the fact that you're debating against a head of DARPA and one of the smartest inventors and geniuses of our generation gives you respect right there.

01:15:06.000 And you said a lot of good stuff in it.

01:15:09.000 Well, they actually pretty much took my quotes, and they had an actor engage in them.

01:15:14.000 We should play that on air.

01:15:15.000 That came out a while back, a few months ago, but... Listen, the only reason I'm on a global platform... Actually, RT aired that, but it came out of, I think, the US first, but they aired it.

01:15:27.000 The reason that's happening is scientists and government people hear me, insiders hear me, and they know, wow, that guy actually knows what he's talking about.

01:15:36.000 I'm not bragging, but William Binney's been on the show many times, and he goes, wow, you really know about all the angles of this.

01:15:41.000 Other people don't understand this.

01:15:42.000 Even people he worked with didn't get it, because they all just want to do their little job and go play golf.

01:15:47.000 No, I really want to know how all this works, but it shows the power of the individual That now in publications and in major TV shows, I'm seen as the opposition.

01:16:00.000 Well, it's only because I was willing to fight.

01:16:03.000 And that's a testament to all of you.

01:16:04.000 There are people more articulate, smarter than I.

01:16:08.000 Who need to take action.

01:16:11.000 But even if you're not more articulate than I or don't have as much energy as I, write a book, write a newsletter, talk to your police chief, visit your sheriff, put my films in the library.

01:16:23.000 If everybody starts doing a little bit, many hands make light work and we can defeat the globalists.

01:16:28.000 Go ahead.

01:16:30.000 I've been listening to you for eight years through the app.

01:16:32.000 I haven't missed an episode.

01:16:33.000 I've purchased a lot of your products.

01:16:35.000 They're all great.

01:16:36.000 And you motivated me to make a movie and I appreciate you plugging my movie, the Conspiracy Theory documentary, when you aired the Comedy Central bit.

01:16:45.000 That was really nice of you.

01:16:47.000 Brother!

01:16:47.000 I hope that we can nurture and basically garden with all these great sprouts like you out there who will grow up to be much mightier oaks than I.

01:16:58.000 That's what a real leader does is they try to bring other people along.

01:17:03.000 They try to mentor.

01:17:05.000 That's what real civilization is all about.

01:17:09.000 And so, of course, if you're doing auxiliary reporting, and everybody can be an InfoWars reporter, you just say you are unofficial, because then we could have set-up folks say they work for us and do bad things in our name.

01:17:22.000 We have to clearly expose those false flags.

01:17:23.000 That's been tried before.

01:17:25.000 If people do legitimate, real reporting, we'll link to it.

01:17:27.000 We'll promote it.

01:17:29.000 And then we'll promote, when we can, whatever separately you're doing.

01:17:33.000 Because we're all going to hang together or hang separate, to quote Benjamin Franklin, my friend.

01:17:38.000 I mean, this is a war.

01:17:40.000 I'm looking for soldiers in the info war.

01:17:42.000 I'm looking to win.

01:17:44.000 And the video you produced was Comedy Central Show Chides Info Wars with Clone website.

01:17:49.000 Segment features main character browsing conspiracy wars site with crazy headline using our header.

01:17:55.000 Michael Jackson in Richard Branson's space condo was the headline.

01:18:02.000 Well, God bless you.

01:18:02.000 Anything else, Adam?

01:18:04.000 A lot of people made fun of me, my friends made fun of me, saying, oh, you're just making something out of nothing.

01:18:09.000 But then the very next week with the David Cross movie, I showed that to him too, and then I show him the Bill O'Reilly and the Rachel Maddow, and they finally start to get it.

01:18:17.000 I'm trying to put together all the clips to make a documentary about that also.

01:18:20.000 But you and Joyce Riley mentioned the lawyer at the Boston bombing trial, how she's connected to the Mosawi trial and the Unabomber.

01:18:28.000 They did release video of the younger brother running away from the scene, and you can clearly see he has no backpack.

01:18:34.000 So, I've been with you the whole way with the Boston bombing.

01:18:36.000 Totally staged.

01:18:37.000 The older brother was CIA on record, and they just burned their two guys.

01:18:42.000 The younger brother's probably dead.

01:18:44.000 And I've talked to the family.

01:18:46.000 They've been about to come on, and they get death-threatened.

01:18:48.000 Okay?

01:18:49.000 I mean, let me tell you.

01:18:50.000 That Boston bombing was a $3 bill.

01:18:54.000 Pictures of him since the boat.

01:18:56.000 And the friend in the courtroom on the first day said that it didn't sound like him, and basically he said it wasn't him.

01:19:02.000 They cut his throat out.

01:19:03.000 He had not been shot in the throat.

01:19:05.000 They cut his larynx out, basically, to shut him up.

01:19:08.000 They shot the boat full of hundreds of holes and didn't kill him.

01:19:11.000 They're totally framing him.

01:19:12.000 He's got a lawyer saying he says he's guilty.

01:19:14.000 I mean, this is sick.

01:19:15.000 Appreciate your call.

01:19:17.000 God bless you, Adam.

01:19:19.000 Take action.

01:19:20.000 Make films.

01:19:20.000 Expose things.

01:19:21.000 And exactly.

01:19:22.000 Mark Twain said it best.

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01:24:09.000 Federal agents!

01:24:10.000 We are armed!

01:24:13.000 What would you do if you knew all the things we knew?

01:24:16.000 Would you stand up for true or would you turn away too?

01:24:22.000 And then what if you saw all of the things that's wrong?

01:24:27.000 Would you stand tall and strong?

01:24:30.000 Oh, would you turn it off?

01:24:32.000 What would you do if you knew all the things we knew?

01:24:37.000 Would you stand up for true?

01:24:40.000 The big theme I see emerging, just tracking the news the last few months, is massive attacks on free speech.

01:24:46.000 But not just the whistleblowers or insiders exposing crime.

01:24:49.000 But independent media itself, the Internet that its main platform, LaunchPoint.

01:24:56.000 Its ether, its format, but also the data itself.

01:25:04.000 And that's coming up in the next segment.

01:25:06.000 This affects everybody big time.

01:25:08.000 It's the surest sign of accelerating despotism and a totalitarian atmosphere.

01:25:14.000 But that's happening because they push totalitarian takeover.

01:25:18.000 People woke up.

01:25:19.000 The old American instincts kicked in.

01:25:21.000 The old Western instincts kicked in.

01:25:25.000 Renaissance started to kick in, and now they're trying to accelerate and triple down, and it is like adding nitrous oxide to an internal combustion engine.

01:25:34.000 It is doing nothing but accelerating liberty.

01:25:37.000 That said, though, the car can fly off the road and hurt everybody.

01:25:40.000 This is a very dangerous time.

01:25:42.000 That's why we de-escalate with the police, de-escalate with the system, Because even though they're doing a lot of bad things, they don't know they work for the New World Order.

01:25:52.000 They're starting to figure it out, starting to get the big picture.

01:25:55.000 They're not the enemy.

01:25:57.000 I'll say it again.

01:25:58.000 I found being around feds, being around local police, being around military, being around NSA people, being around, you name it, from top retired generals, recently retired, to top NSA people, right down to police chiefs around the country and sheriffs.

01:26:15.000 They are the most awake group.

01:26:17.000 They're either evil and serving the system, or they're good and awake and don't know what to do and say, I wish the people would wake up and support us!

01:26:26.000 The globalists know if we start getting together with local government and good people in the federal government, we can form a coalition that's legitimate, that's strong, with people like William Binney and Ron Paul and others, and we can legitimately have reform.

01:26:42.000 The globalists don't want that.

01:26:43.000 They want a race war. 0.96

01:26:44.000 They want division.

01:26:45.000 They want balkanization ahead of that, and that's why they're pulling out the stops. 0.98

01:26:49.000 I mean, you know the new Black Panther Party, all over the country, marching around saying, kill police, shoot police, oink, oink, bang, bang, kill a pig, here in Austin just two days ago. 0.97

01:27:01.000 We played the video yesterday. 0.95

01:27:03.000 You know if a libertarian group, not that we'd ever even do that or want to do that, you know if a conservative group did that, we'd be arrested.

01:27:11.000 You know that's a terroristic threat.

01:27:12.000 You know that's organization to do murder.

01:27:15.000 That's planning, in my view, legally, capital murder. 0.99

01:27:19.000 To march around saying, we want to kill 20 cops, we want to shoot them, we want to take them out, armed, in an organized group. 0.97

01:27:27.000 I mean, I'll tell you right now, if 20 people are marching towards me with guns, saying we want to kill Alex Jones, I legally and lawfully have the right to get in a stance on the ground and open fire. 0.99

01:27:36.000 Now, what I'd actually do is just try to get out of there.

01:27:37.000 I'm not looking for trouble, but, you know, this is just a joke, ladies and gentlemen.

01:27:42.000 This is all federally financed. 1.00

01:27:43.000 These are useful idiots. 1.00

01:27:45.000 Let's go to another call. 1.00

01:27:46.000 Maria in California, you're on the air.

01:27:49.000 Hi there, Alex.

01:27:49.000 Go ahead.

01:27:52.000 I'm so happy to talk with you today.

01:27:53.000 Thank you.

01:27:55.000 You know, when I first started listening to you, I used to just I used to love to listen to you because of your rants that you would do and your little mimicking voices and stuff used to really make me smile.

01:28:07.000 Even though a lot of bad things were going on, at least I could hear you and I could feel what you were going through at the same time.

01:28:13.000 Um, I lost contact with you about this time last year and then, um, regained contact again the end of this year and tried to get some information through to you, um, and, um, and other people, tried to get some information out there, but it seems like everything I do gets blocked.

01:28:28.000 Well, you're on the air!

01:28:29.000 Get the info out!

01:28:30.000 I mean, one of the biggest frustrations for listeners is They can't get us stuff.

01:28:34.000 Sometimes they do, sometimes we don't cover it, because we're like a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest around here.

01:28:41.000 So, if you can't get it through to us, put it out on YouTube.

01:28:44.000 Put it out on Facebook.

01:28:45.000 Use enemy platforms to jam the system.

01:28:48.000 Go ahead.

01:28:49.000 Well, it's hard to do that, but okay, sure.

01:28:52.000 But what I wanted to talk about is, you know, a lot of this information, there's a lot of information out there, and it's a lot of things that Now it just seems like you're just bombarded with all kinds of information.

01:29:02.000 But what I want to talk about is what's going on where I'm living.

01:29:07.000 In my city, I live in a military-type area where they do a lot of weapons testing and program testing and things like that here.

01:29:15.000 And a lot of what's going on on a worldwide scale are things that are going on right here in our city.

01:29:22.000 I mean, everything from the education system to the medical, to the police, to the social services, to all of that are going on in this one, in our city, which I believe is going on in probably a lot of cities all over.

01:29:36.000 Yeah, what they're doing is they're merging the military with the local threat fusion centers and the police and everything under federalized control with centralized codes, centralized dispatch, and then that's being centralized globally all into one huge computer system to track and control everything.

01:29:52.000 It is not a good situation.

01:29:54.000 Plus, GPS is based on satellites.

01:29:56.000 What if there's a big solar flare?

01:29:58.000 We're on the march.

01:29:59.000 The Empire's on the run.

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01:33:18.000 You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up.

01:33:25.000 Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. 0.97

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01:33:39.000 The Alex Jones Show.

01:33:48.000 Because there is a war on for your mind.

01:33:51.000 Well, he's definitely a bigger whistleblower than Daniel Ellsberg.

01:34:02.000 Thank you.

01:34:03.000 And I've had Daniel Ellsberg on the broadcast, the Pentagon Papers.

01:34:07.000 He's certainly much higher level than Snowden.

01:34:13.000 And he's just been in Germany making a film with Oliver Stone about the NSA.

01:34:21.000 William Binney was number three at the NSA, depending on which news article you read.

01:34:26.000 He directed their technological development systems, so he actually knows the entire grid and infrastructure.

01:34:33.000 And he saw criminal spying violated the law in 2001.

01:34:37.000 He told Congress quietly, so the SWAT team raided him.

01:34:41.000 He followed the law.

01:34:42.000 And here he is, 15 years later, exposing the system.

01:34:49.000 And he will be joining us in about 35 minutes from now in studio.

01:34:52.000 He's here with us in Austin, Texas, William Benning.

01:34:57.000 And the reason I mention that is our next guest, Catherine Paul, Associate Director of Organic Consumers Association, OrganicConsumers.org, probably the leading group watchdog of other organic certifiers and writing articles about what's happening at state level, federal level, and international level.

01:35:17.000 Just a cornucopia, pun intended, of vital information for people that don't want to eat pesticide-laden food, don't want to eat GMO.

01:35:25.000 I want to know what true organic food is.

01:35:26.000 Part of this revolution that's beginning to win.

01:35:30.000 With McDonald's and all these big companies saying, no more bovine growth hormone.

01:35:35.000 We're going to start phasing out the pesticides.

01:35:37.000 We're going to... We're seeing some big victories here.

01:35:42.000 But the establishment is striking back by going and creating fake PR organizations that come out and go, oh, sugar and high fructose is good.

01:35:50.000 Oh, there are good GMOs.

01:35:54.000 And I've got a stack of news articles breaking this down.

01:35:58.000 But they were banned, even though they set it up months ago, from being part of this big Whole Foods-sponsored event, headlined, Gene Giants Kick OCA Off South by Southwest Food Panel Discussion.

01:36:13.000 And I wanted to just show TV viewers and read this for radio listeners, just the news the last three days.

01:36:22.000 From Monday to today, just a few articles I grabbed out of the stack here.

01:36:28.000 sets new record for denying censoring government files.

01:36:28.000 U.S.

01:36:31.000 A.P.

01:36:32.000 A.P.

01:36:33.000 president says that it's totalitarian.

01:36:35.000 What did William Binney tell The Guardian a few months ago?

01:36:37.000 He said it is a total totalitarian takeover.

01:36:40.000 Close quote.

01:36:42.000 now say?

01:36:42.000 What does A.P.

01:36:43.000 It is a totalitarian takeover.

01:36:44.000 That's A.P.

01:36:45.000 It isn't Alex Jones anymore using words like that.

01:36:49.000 You look out your window and your neighbor's house has fire shooting out of the windows.

01:36:53.000 It's on fire.

01:36:54.000 That's an alarmist statement.

01:36:55.000 It's on fire.

01:36:58.000 Oh, that guy's alarmist.

01:36:59.000 He's upset.

01:37:00.000 What's wrong with him?

01:37:01.000 Well, people weren't paying attention.

01:37:02.000 Of course I was yelling and screaming.

01:37:05.000 Foreign corporations have hijacked the country. 1.00

01:37:07.000 They own both parties.

01:37:08.000 We're in trouble.

01:37:10.000 Here's another one.

01:37:10.000 Just one headline.

01:37:11.000 FOI, FOIA, Access of Information, scoring 2015.

01:37:18.000 State Department gets an F. Here's another headline.

01:37:20.000 White House exempts itself from FOIA requests.

01:37:23.000 Totally.

01:37:23.000 As of Tuesday, the Office of Administration will no longer have to heed FOIA requests.

01:37:28.000 According to RT, they just say they don't have to.

01:37:31.000 That violates the Open Records Act, National Security Act.

01:37:33.000 That's a felony.

01:37:35.000 They're just announcing it, though.

01:37:38.000 Remember when Cheney said he was above the law and that the Vice President was more important than the President?

01:37:43.000 Remember Nixon saying it's not illegal?

01:37:45.000 Heck, can we find that clip when Nixon said, it's not illegal when the President does it.

01:37:52.000 It's okay when the President does it.

01:37:57.000 So continuing, here's another article.

01:37:59.000 FDA proposes to let drug companies undermine official safety warnings.

01:38:07.000 Look at that headline right there.

01:38:11.000 So they want to just get rid of even letting you know what they admittedly, what these drugs can do to you.

01:38:16.000 Here's another one.

01:38:16.000 Coca-Cola caught paying health leaders to say soda is healthy snack.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, this is how they operate.

01:38:24.000 I'm going to stop right there and go to Katharine Paul, whose organization has been banned from South by Southwest, and we even know who said ban it and who they follow their orders from. 1.00

01:38:35.000 Folks need to understand that the people that are running South by Southwest are extreme totalitarians and have been messing with me for 20 years, trying to jack with this radio show and TV show, so they're really bad guys.

01:38:51.000 And I've been telling you this for a long time, it's becoming more and more evident.

01:38:54.000 Catherine, I wanted to do five, six minutes of background, so it's not just you that this is happening to.

01:38:59.000 They had the police ticket us for using a sound device downtown, warning about GMOs.

01:39:05.000 My pleasure, thank you for having me on.

01:39:06.000 Everybody else used sound devices, including the pedicabs and other groups, and they've let me march many times with a bullhorn, and they've lost lawsuits over it.

01:39:14.000 But still, they ticketed us and shut us down because McDonald's ordered them to.

01:39:17.000 I guess they're the boss, but not for long.

01:39:20.000 Catherine, Paul, thank you for coming on with us today.

01:39:23.000 My pleasure.

01:39:25.000 Thank you for having me on.

01:39:26.000 You just heard that background.

01:39:28.000 Can you comment on that and then tell us what's happened to your organization?

01:39:33.000 Well, none of what you say really surprises me, and we've seen this.

01:39:39.000 You know, my focus has been for the past few years on the biotech industry corporations and the, we call them the junk food manufacturers, and they're not only, you know, propaganda programs and the millions of dollars propaganda programs and the millions of dollars that they spend to sort of spin the truth,

01:40:01.000 But also their obvious manipulation of the federal government from the SBA right down to state and local politicians.

01:40:10.000 So, what happened with us, as you say, is one of the organizers of a panel, a session, there at South by Southwest, contacted me, asked me if I'd be available to participate on a panel.

01:40:26.000 With Kathleen Enright, the Executive VP of the Biotech Industry Organization.

01:40:32.000 And I said, sure, I would be happy to sit there and have a discussion with her.

01:40:38.000 But when there was no follow-up with confirmation, and I finally, you know, reached out and said, what's up?

01:40:44.000 I was told, well, Kathleen Enright had said we were not allowed to be on the panel.

01:40:52.000 So they basically uninvited me.

01:40:56.000 So the biotech industry is literally running the so-called panel on safe and healthy food and the future of food here in the trendy so-called liberal city of Austin where Whole Foods is based.

01:41:08.000 Whole Foods is a sponsor heavily involved and so what we have is a Don King boxing match, a fake debate with a bunch of hand-picked people that won't actually engage in any real discussion.

01:41:19.000 What we have is perception management.

01:41:22.000 Exactly, and you know I picked up the phone and I called Kathleen Enright and I said, is this true?

01:41:29.000 Do you really?

01:41:30.000 Did you really uninvite me from this panel?

01:41:34.000 And she said it was absolutely true because they didn't want to.

01:41:37.000 She figured that if I showed up there was going to be a debate about the health and safety of GMOs and she said that that debate is over.

01:41:44.000 Don't want that!

01:41:46.000 That's not the conversation she wanted to have.

01:41:49.000 Notice the same corporate tactic.

01:41:51.000 The debate is over.

01:41:53.000 Exactly.

01:41:54.000 That's what the Borg say in Star Trek.

01:41:57.000 We will assimilate you, the debate is over, you will submit.

01:42:01.000 I don't think so.

01:42:02.000 I think the debate's over for them with the thousands of studies coming out that a lot of GMOs are very dangerous, and certainly we have a right to choose.

01:42:10.000 They're trying to block labeling, so they're clearly the bad guys here.

01:42:16.000 Well, we look at these companies and all their resources and they talk this great story about sustainable agriculture and helping farmers and feeding the world.

01:42:28.000 We'd love to invite them to do exactly that, but the way to do that is not by dumping millions of pounds of glyphosate and other toxic chemicals into our soils and onto our food.

01:42:41.000 So, it's a shame that with all their power and all their resources, they couldn't put it to better use.

01:42:47.000 But the reality is, and as everyone knows this, genetically engineered crops were never intended as a means of salting world hunger.

01:43:01.000 GMO soy and GMO corn and GMO canola oil and all of those Either go to junk food, or the vast percentage of that goes to make ethanol for your gas tanks, or to feed animals in feedlots.

01:43:16.000 Sure, it's all about profit and monopoly in Monsanto and others' own perspectives and corporate speeches.

01:43:22.000 You're a bigger expert on this than I, but I've seen the South by Southwest announcement that's been on TV.

01:43:27.000 South by Southwest to help the earth with clean, healthy, sustainable food to feed the Africans.

01:43:33.000 And in reality, from India to Africa, GMO is creating disaster zones.

01:43:38.000 And in India, linked to massive farmer suicides.

01:43:42.000 And here, to breast cancer and every other nightmare you can imagine.

01:43:45.000 I mean, these are the folks that brought us Agent Orange.

01:43:48.000 And these crops are not feeding the world.

01:43:51.000 We're not feeding human beings, starving human beings, a bunch of GMO soy and corn.

01:43:57.000 That's not where those crops are going. 1.00

01:44:00.000 And the argument that genetic engineering can create drought-resistant crops and all of these is baloney, because 99% of GMO crops are engineered for one reason and one reason only, and that's to withstand massive doses of pesticides because 99% of GMO crops are engineered for one reason and one reason only, and that's to withstand massive doses of pesticides or herbicides, and that's what Monsanto and

01:44:25.000 They can't make a profit genetically engineering a drought-resistant crop unless that drought-resistant crop requires some toxic chemical, because that's what they sell.

01:44:38.000 The big four companies globally, there's a bunch of other smaller ones, but the big four have mostly the spectrum of business.

01:44:47.000 They could come out with very clean, one genetic trait, studied things that use less water, have higher yield, there might still be side effects, that should all be debated and researched properly, but instead they've got hardcore pharmacological crops producing Live viruses, chemicals, you name it.

01:45:06.000 Open air, where they program the crops to produce whatever they want.

01:45:10.000 Folks, I know it sounds Buck Rogers.

01:45:12.000 Look it up for yourself.

01:45:13.000 Look up HIV virus grown in protogen corn.

01:45:17.000 Associated Press, 2002.

01:45:20.000 I mean, you cannot make this stuff up.

01:45:22.000 Thousands of these crops being tested, and they just say safe and effective, debate is over.

01:45:27.000 And then all their engineering are these BT crops and other systems that are designed to resist these deadly pesticides that we know.

01:45:36.000 I mean, another two studies came out last week, as you know, where glyphosates are linked directly to five-fold increase in kidney failure.

01:45:45.000 Well, I mean, look at the kidneys failing everywhere.

01:45:47.000 I mean, it's just a, it is not a suicide pact.

01:45:51.000 to go along with Monsanto, especially with their long history.

01:45:54.000 And I'm sorry to be ranting here.

01:45:56.000 It just makes me so mad to watch the so-called liberals here in Austin, Louis Black and South by Southwest, because it's not just kicking you out and putting up Monsanto like they're saving the earth and are liberals.

01:46:11.000 It's that the whole thing is a censored authoritarian fraud.

01:46:20.000 I'm sorry, I'm ranting, go ahead.

01:46:22.000 No, no, I mean, I couldn't agree more, and the fact that they can't even allow someone like myself to be there because they don't want to admit that there still is a debate

01:46:36.000 The fact that they're spending millions and millions of dollars to show up at these places to get articles in publications all over the world written by people who on the surface look like they're scholars or scientists, but when you dig deep into their background, actually have deep ties to the industry.

01:47:01.000 I want people on your show to read a couple of recent things that have come out.

01:47:05.000 Sure.

01:47:05.000 There are three things on my radar everybody ought to read.

01:47:10.000 One of them is a book that just came out by Stephen Drucker.

01:47:14.000 He wrote a book called Altered Genes, Twisted Truth, How to Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food.

01:47:21.000 He's coming on in two weeks.

01:47:22.000 He's coming on in two weeks.

01:47:23.000 Plug the book again.

01:47:24.000 He's great.

01:47:26.000 It's Altered Genes, Twisted Truth.

01:47:29.000 It's How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public.

01:47:38.000 Great book!

01:47:40.000 Fifteen years of research went into this.

01:47:42.000 And let's go further.

01:47:43.000 As you know, they've got two different or three different big studies just came out, even one from the U.S.

01:47:47.000 government.

01:47:48.000 We now know GMO crops are going through the cell wall and are actually the cell membrane in a human, not wall of the plant.

01:47:56.000 They're going through the cell membrane and changing our DNA and mitochondria and mutating us just like they do lab rats.

01:48:04.000 I mean, exactly!

01:48:05.000 We have never, ever subjected these to long-term human health studies.

01:48:11.000 And I love it!

01:48:12.000 I just love it when the Monsanto folks and all of their front groups and phony bought-and-paid-for scientists say, there's just no proof that anybody's ever died from eating a GMO food.

01:48:29.000 Or, you know, we can't trace any illnesses back to GMO foods.

01:48:34.000 Well, we can't because nobody knows where that stuff is.

01:48:36.000 There's no real traceability.

01:48:38.000 But scientists are tracing it back. 0.82

01:48:41.000 And this idea that if you eat something and you don't drop over dead immediately means it must be safe is ridiculous.

01:48:49.000 Well, then cigarettes must be good.

01:48:50.000 Pardon?

01:48:52.000 I mean, you don't drop dead from your first cigarette, so they must be good.

01:48:56.000 Exactly!

01:48:57.000 Exactly!

01:48:59.000 I mean, we have an epidemic of infertility in the younger generation.

01:49:05.000 Why is everybody having to go to the doctor to get pregnant? 1.00

01:49:11.000 Oh, it's also real funny that in a bunch of rodent studies, they never do them in humans as you said, they do them quicker in rodents, that it causes infertility in them to eat these BT crops. 0.96

01:49:20.000 Mmm, funny!

01:49:24.000 Yeah, I mean it's rampant.

01:49:26.000 The deceit is rampant. 0.98

01:49:28.000 The logic is ridiculous.

01:49:30.000 And what I think, I think that people are beginning more and more to make the connection between the fact that there are two issues here.

01:49:39.000 There's the issue, well there are actually way more than two issues, but when it comes to human health there's the issue of Is genetic modification itself creating a product that is itself dangerous and causing us illness?

01:49:55.000 And there are plenty of studies that suggest yes.

01:49:59.000 But also, you can't have those foods without using massive amounts of toxic, poisonous chemicals.

01:50:08.000 Well, it's clearly both!

01:50:08.000 Chemicals, right.

01:50:09.000 And those chemicals not only are on your food, they're in your water.

01:50:14.000 They're in your soil, they're in your...and they're everywhere!

01:50:18.000 And it's just common sense, I think, and I think we see it.

01:50:25.000 It's evidenced by the fact that the junk food companies are all in trouble, and the organics are in farmers' markets, whether they're organic or not, just local food that we know where it came from without pesticides.

01:50:39.000 Sales of those are growing like crazy because people are just putting two and two together.

01:50:45.000 And Catherine, you said you had three things everybody should read, and I interrupted you going back to the book.

01:50:48.000 Come back and tell us those two things.

01:50:50.000 Clearly, we're starting to gain momentum.

01:50:52.000 It transcends left-right.

01:50:54.000 It's common sense not having your kids die of cancer when they're 20.

01:50:57.000 This is serious.

01:50:59.000 We know that the worm is starting to turn.

01:51:04.000 I want to know how you think they're going to strike back as awareness explodes.

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01:54:31.000 Catherine Paul from organicconsumers.org.

01:54:36.000 Excellent site.

01:54:36.000 Amazing news.

01:54:37.000 Amazing information.

01:54:39.000 She's the associate director.

01:54:40.000 She was banned. 0.82

01:54:41.000 And then I guess her group after that from being part of South by Southwest.

01:54:45.000 Even though they were approached and put on the panels.

01:54:48.000 This, I think, is the enemy striking back, to answer my question to her, but I want her to elaborate.

01:54:53.000 Trying to shut down debate, trying to create fake debates, but I just don't see it working.

01:55:01.000 It's like a tidal wave of awakening is taking place.

01:55:06.000 So what's the rest of the story?

01:55:07.000 Where do you see all this going now?

01:55:09.000 How will they strike back?

01:55:10.000 And then what were the other two points you were going to make?

01:55:13.000 Well, I wanted to direct people to read a couple of other things just Just as fully, to help get more background on really the depth of the conspiracy to deceive consumers, because it really has been a conspiracy on the part of corporations.

01:55:30.000 There's a new non-profit called U.S.

01:55:32.000 Right to Know that recently published a report called Seedy Business, What Big Food is Hiding with its Slick PR Campaign on GMOs.

01:55:42.000 Great deal of good information on there.

01:55:44.000 Outlining very specifically to what length these corporations have gone to manipulate government policy and manipulate the message.

01:55:57.000 And also another new book out, and I think this is just a sign, I mean, that there's so much being put out there right now.

01:56:08.000 A book called Poison Spring, A Secret History of Pollution and the EPA.

01:56:14.000 Somebody who worked for the EPA for 15 years inside talking about how the EPA has chosen to ignore its own scientists on the issues of pesticides like glyphosate and pander instead to corporations.

01:56:29.000 How do you see them striking back and in a battle, briefly, where are we right now?

01:56:36.000 In the battle, I think our side is getting pretty close to a tipping point.

01:56:44.000 We've heard from insiders at General Mills, they're absolutely panicked.

01:56:49.000 That's why they're buying up organic companies. 0.54

01:56:52.000 We see Kellogg's is in trouble.

01:56:54.000 We see McDonald's is in trouble.

01:56:58.000 Corporation after corporation in the food industry are beginning to see that maybe being in bed with the biotech industry wasn't such a great idea after all.

01:57:08.000 Even Chuck Norris is coming out against Monsanto.

01:57:11.000 I mean, that states the end for them.

01:57:15.000 It does.

01:57:16.000 So there's a battle on that level.

01:57:19.000 Consumers and their interest in their own personal health.

01:57:23.000 That's what's really been driving this for the past A few years, and we've seen it with the battles to label GMOs and the lengths to which biotech industry have gone to defeat those laws.

01:57:37.000 And they won those battles, but they lost those wars, and the backlash is incredible.

01:57:42.000 I want to have you back up for a full hour in the near future.

01:57:45.000 Amazing work.

01:57:46.000 God bless you.

01:57:47.000 OrganicConsumers.org.

01:57:48.000 Catherine, Paul, thank you.

01:57:50.000 Thank you.

01:57:52.000 Folks, that's why they push racism and division all day in the name of fighting.

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02:01:24.000 Thanks for holding go ahead Hey Alex, it's great to be able to get on your show and talk with you a couple things while I was on hold I want to give you a plug I had a cup of my wake up America immune support and that I bought and I use that's great coffee.

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02:03:10.000 Go ahead.

02:03:12.000 Two other things that I wanted to hit on.

02:03:14.000 One is the EPA, and the second one has to do with something that you were covering on Sunday that actually reverts back to the TSA.

02:03:23.000 Sure, you've got a minute and 45.

02:03:25.000 Okay, good.

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02:03:26.000 Okay.

02:03:27.000 The EPA, Agenda 21, Salt Lake City, Utah, just passed an ordinance in the City Council that says that they're banning as of January 2016 they're gonna be banning wood stove usage okay that was actually an article that run on the local Fox affiliate yeah so you know that goes

02:03:52.000 Folks, if you watch the Obama deception made six years ago, I tell everybody this.

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02:04:03.000 They're going to shut down all human activity that isn't corporate.

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02:08:06.000 Defending the Republic from enemies foreign and domestic.

02:08:18.000 defending the republic from enemies foreign and domestic.

02:08:23.000 It's Alex Jones.

02:08:25.000 I think you can call this particular hour Operation Toto.

02:08:41.000 Little Toto pulling back the curtain so they could see what was happening behind it.

02:08:47.000 William Binney is with us for the hour.

02:08:51.000 William Edward Binney is the former technical leader for intelligence with the NSA before becoming a whistleblower.

02:08:56.000 In late 2001, after more than 30 years in the agency, Binney has been described as one of the best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.

02:09:03.000 He basically set up a lot of what was going on so he knew they were doing illegal stuff.

02:09:07.000 Binney continues to speak out.

02:09:09.000 He's been SWAT teamed, he's been attacked, he's been demonized, but it's failed.

02:09:14.000 They tried to silence him and other whistleblowers.

02:09:17.000 Exposedfacts.org is a site where you can read some of his analysis and material.

02:09:22.000 I hope he writes a book soon.

02:09:24.000 He came down here on his own dime, basically a South by Southwest.

02:09:28.000 To speak, got a pretty good perception.

02:09:30.000 We'll get his take on that.

02:09:31.000 He wants to go through some of the Snowden slides today for TV viewers.

02:09:35.000 Radio listeners can go to Infowars.com forward slash show to find the free video feed and hopefully send that link on to friends and family because Mr. Benny is a real hero.

02:09:44.000 He'll just say he did his duty, but in a world of traitors, someone doing their duty is heroic.

02:09:52.000 And he joins us here today.

02:09:55.000 William, thanks for coming in.

02:09:57.000 I don't know where to start.

02:09:57.000 Thanks for having me.

02:09:59.000 We could recap your story, what's happening, get into the exciting stuff about you coming back from Germany.

02:10:04.000 You've been talking to parliaments over there.

02:10:06.000 You've been talking to the EU people, I believe the British Parliament, big national headlines where you say it's a totalitarian takeover and the Guardian.

02:10:15.000 But here it's starting to come out in the news as well.

02:10:19.000 I guess they failed to silence you.

02:10:21.000 We could talk about you working with Oliver Stone now on the new Snowden documentary.

02:10:27.000 We could get into the slides and break down the fact that it is going on from an expert, showing us not what's classified, but what's already been leaked, so you don't get in trouble.

02:10:38.000 We're here with the former technical director of the NSA, the guy that actually ran it, William Binney.

02:10:43.000 So you've got the floor, sir.

02:10:45.000 Okay, but, you know, there's so much here, it's really hard to know where to start because it's really been, over time, it's been, our government has moved into basically sliding down the totalitarian slope.

02:10:58.000 Taking massive amounts of data on our citizens and then working around and doing it across the world.

02:11:04.000 So it's basically, they're doing this for everybody in the planet.

02:11:07.000 And the process started here in the NSA, and it started to spread around the world to the Five Eyes countries, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and then to other countries like in Germany and Switzerland.

02:11:24.000 And Sweden and Israel.

02:11:27.000 So the process of data collection and now the Russians are doing it. 1.00

02:11:31.000 I just read an article where they're starting this kind of operation.

02:11:34.000 So now the Russians are following our lead in this spying business. 0.84

02:11:37.000 It's a big brother race.

02:11:38.000 Right.

02:11:41.000 When I first started in October 2001, it was very clear to me that this was a process that we were adopting in the United States.

02:11:48.000 It was really a Soviet attempt or a Stasi attempt in East Germany to assemble all the information on their populations.

02:11:57.000 Why?

02:11:57.000 It's because they wanted to control their populations.

02:12:00.000 That was the whole point of the totalitarian states.

02:12:03.000 It has been down through history.

02:12:05.000 I mean, this is nothing new.

02:12:07.000 This has been repeated so many times since Caesar Augustus.

02:12:10.000 You know, it was so clear right up front.

02:12:13.000 But, I mean, you could ask anybody in the Tea Party who's been denied access to 501c3.

02:12:19.000 You can look at the IRS use of the data, look at the law enforcement.

02:12:25.000 DEA with a parallel construction?

02:12:28.000 A parallel construction.

02:12:29.000 I mean, that's spread around the world to other police organizations around the world, too.

02:12:33.000 Anybody with an organization or police organization that has a relationship With the FBI or the DEA around the world is subject to getting this kind of information but they'll never be given the original data from the NSA collection because it's not admissible in a court of law because it wasn't acquired by a warrant.

02:12:50.000 And they don't want to, with foreigners, compromise the fact that they have the ability to collect them. 0.99

02:12:53.000 And don't they then fence it and wash it and they've been caught adding disinformation and it's a perfect way to put into the global data stream frame-ups.

02:13:02.000 They did that kind of framing with us.

02:13:05.000 They did that even with us.

02:13:07.000 The Department of Justice did that.

02:13:08.000 They framed us.

02:13:09.000 They tempted to.

02:13:11.000 Speak a little bit about that.

02:13:12.000 I think that gives people a window into how totalitarian this is.

02:13:16.000 Well, for example, the only case that went to court was Tom Drake's case.

02:13:22.000 And they took him to court because he was still working for NSA at the time.

02:13:26.000 This was in 2007 when they raided us initially, and then they raided Tom Drake about three months later.

02:13:33.000 But his case didn't get to court until about 2010.

02:13:34.000 2010 well 2010 they charged him in 2011 10 and 11 in that frame they they wanted to take him to court and then what they did was they took information that he had at his house that was marked unclassified and they changed that they drew a line through that and then stamped it classified secret or top secret then charged him with having classified material Thank you.

02:13:59.000 That's like retroactively classifying something so you can charge somebody with having classified material.

02:14:04.000 That's framing him, okay?

02:14:06.000 It's a forgery, it's a fraud, it's a major felony.

02:14:09.000 Right.

02:14:10.000 And the problem with it is that they didn't know what they had done.

02:14:13.000 They had released most of that material themselves, NSA did, into the public domain, unclassified.

02:14:18.000 And that's what Jim Bamford found. 0.96

02:14:20.000 Because Drake wasn't stupid. 0.97

02:14:21.000 He didn't want to go to prison. 0.96

02:14:22.000 He was only bringing out what was already out there.

02:14:24.000 Well, first of all, it was unclassified by NSA regulations.

02:14:28.000 That was the way they stamped it.

02:14:30.000 I had the former director of Star Wars on, he died a few years ago, Dr. Bob Bowman, and he talked about some of the space planes once, and then they called him and came to his house and kind of threatened him, and he said, hey, here's where it was released on C-SPAN, and here's where you guys and your own propaganda a decade ago released it, and then they couldn't go after him, but that's the type of stuff they pull.

02:14:50.000 Right.

02:14:51.000 It's a total fabrication of evidence to put people in jail.

02:14:55.000 That's our Department of Justice doing it. 0.98

02:14:57.000 The Bible calls it bearing false witness.

02:15:00.000 I call it perjury and felony, and these people should be charged and given a chance to explain what they did and why they did it.

02:15:08.000 Tell folks what happened to you before we get into the NSA itself.

02:15:10.000 Well, for me, in my case, I mean, I was kind of prominent, you know, complaining to senators and representatives and various other people, as was Tom Drake.

02:15:21.000 Let's be clear, you guys were doing this internally.

02:15:23.000 We were internal, in terms of the government, yes.

02:15:25.000 We were going to the Inspector, we even, Kirk Levy and I even went to talk to the Department of Justice Inspector General.

02:15:33.000 And of course they couldn't say anything to us, but we made it clear what the problem was with this domestic spying.

02:15:39.000 But for me and all four of us, we were the four who were first raided in July of 2007.

02:15:45.000 We were raided because we were the ones who signed the DOD IG complaint against NSA charging them with corruption, fraud, waste and abuse.

02:15:55.000 And that caused a major DOD investigation of NSA that all verified what we were saying and that was published but redacted because even the unclassified embarrassing parts were redacted.

02:16:08.000 Which is a violation of the NSA, the government... Open records.

02:16:11.000 Yeah, well it's a violation of government classification regulations too.

02:16:16.000 In other words, Executive Order 13526 Section 1.7 says you can't classify something or keep it classified or not declassified if it's evidence of a crime or evidence that embarrasses an agency or... You can't use the National Security Act to cover up criminal activity.

02:16:31.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:16:33.000 And that's basically what the NSA and the DOJ and the DOD with that investigative report, that's what they were doing.

02:16:43.000 They were redacting it and hiding it from Congress and hiding it from everybody else.

02:16:47.000 So they're covering up what they're doing.

02:16:50.000 And for us, they attempted after the raid, by the way, the DOD IG's office was the one that gave our names, as the ones who submitted that complaint against NSA, they gave our names to the FBI.

02:17:03.000 Wow.

02:17:03.000 And that was against their regulations, okay?

02:17:07.000 I mean, who now- So they're all breaking the law while accusing you of doing it?

02:17:09.000 Yes.

02:17:10.000 And all you're doing is going to congressional committees and inspector generals whose job it is to have oversight and telling them, hey, they're breaking the law.

02:17:17.000 Yes.

02:17:18.000 And also, it's the committees who are supposed to, the intelligence committees in the House and Senate, and also the FISA Court, were established after the Church Committee investigation of NSA, CIA, and FBI in the 70s.

02:17:32.000 And one of the main persons they were spying on back in the Minaret program was Senator Church.

02:17:36.000 That's right.

02:17:38.000 And that only came out recently, and the only reason they didn't, of course, was because they are spying on people who have power over them.

02:17:45.000 And let's be clear, because The fake conservative argument and the fake liberal argument is the same.

02:17:50.000 We're protecting you from Al-Qaeda and drug dealers and all this other stuff, but then as more of this gets leaked and comes out, they're spying on Parliament, they're spying on Congress, they're spying on other agencies, and there's so much spying going on, and you've explained this, that back when you were really spying on the Russians, really spying on radical Islamists, Legally and lawfully, that was already legal and lawful.

02:18:11.000 It's the domestic stuff that's illegal, but they confuse people and say, let us protect you from Al-Qaeda, when actually they're doing the opposite.

02:18:19.000 They're letting all these groups operate because they're too busy spying on their boyfriends and their girlfriends and the congressmen.

02:18:26.000 Yeah, and that's one of the cases that came out was what they called an NSA love-int.

02:18:32.000 Love intelligence, that's where the analysts were looking into the data to see whether or not their better parts or their spouses or girlfriends were cheating on them. 1.00

02:18:43.000 Well, you don't do that, first of all, you don't do that, Erica, you do not do that with metadata.

02:18:48.000 You do that with content.

02:18:50.000 And that's what they've been trying to hide, that they've been collecting content all along, since 2002 at least.

02:18:57.000 And that content is stored in Utah, San Antonio, and various other storage facilities.

02:19:02.000 And there should have been a dun-dun-dun. 1.00

02:19:04.000 We're going to skip this network break.

02:19:05.000 This is so important right now.

02:19:06.000 William Benning, the former director of the technical division of the NSA.

02:19:11.000 I've seen the news say you were the number two, number three, number four.

02:19:13.000 What position were you in the NSA?

02:19:16.000 That position, what level is that?

02:19:18.000 Well, I was a senior executive grade.

02:19:21.000 If you get in the military ranks, that'd be like a 1.5 star general.

02:19:26.000 So, but I was the technical director of the World Geopolitical Military Analysis and Reporting Shop.

02:19:33.000 That was about 6,000 analysts and reporters that... How high is your IQ?

02:19:37.000 Because they say you've got like a mathematical brain.

02:19:39.000 Come on, be serious.

02:19:41.000 What, about 180?

02:19:42.000 No, no, I think it was 143 or something like that.

02:19:44.000 But, you know, I'm just a basic countryman.

02:19:47.000 But you've got a genius for numbers and code cracking.

02:19:50.000 I had a real event for doing that, yes.

02:19:53.000 It's just a talent that you have to be able to look at patterns and see patterns in data, and when you can do that, that's the kind of thing you need to be able to break things and solve problems.

02:20:05.000 Somehow I want to have you on, just about you, because I know most of it's classified, but you battled the Russians, the Chinese, everybody, right?

02:20:13.000 Well, most of the Warsaw Pact, European communist countries and the Soviets.

02:20:17.000 And you said before it upset you to go from really going spying after serious folks to like spying on congressmen.

02:20:23.000 Yes, yeah, I mean and every US citizen in the country, yeah.

02:20:27.000 No one was exempt.

02:20:29.000 I mean, everybody was taken in.

02:20:31.000 I mean, even Senator Rockefeller, when he was addressed in January on CNN, I think it was, he addressed it, he said, they've got data on, they've probably even got data on me.

02:20:44.000 Well, I mean, what he's saying was right.

02:20:46.000 I mean, they're collecting all the data content and metadata on everybody in the country.

02:20:50.000 Explain those lies for folks.

02:20:51.000 They claim, oh, it's just metadata, just, you know, basically when you called, when you didn't call like a phone bill.

02:20:56.000 No, no, no, no.

02:20:56.000 Explain what they're really doing.

02:20:58.000 Well, Mark Klein kind of exposed that too, and it's in court record in Mark Klein's case where he laid out the wiring for all the, for the NSA room in the AT&T facility in San Francisco.

02:21:08.000 Sure.

02:21:09.000 And on that, I think it was room 641B.

02:21:13.000 What they did was they put a prism type affair or a splitter, what's called a splitter or Y connector, where you have a fiber coming in and it sends, it duplicates and sends it down two paths.

02:21:23.000 One path went to the NSA room and the other path went to the normal distribution of communications.

02:21:29.000 In the NSA room, all the diagramming showed all the NERIS devices they had in there, where they pushed the fiber optic networks into the NERIS device.

02:21:37.000 What that did was recompile everything on the line and sessionize it, meaning reassemble all the data.

02:21:44.000 Like if you send an email, it goes out in packets.

02:21:46.000 We'll pull all those packets back together and say, here's the email you just sent.

02:21:50.000 And then they would pass that on to NSA for storage.

02:21:53.000 And that's what that device did.

02:21:55.000 It did content collection.

02:21:57.000 Not just metadata, but content.

02:21:59.000 And then now we know those hubs are everywhere, and in front of us they're building giant, huge complexes to store it all.

02:22:06.000 Yes, the latest one that they've just submitted an environmental impact statement for is a 2.8 million square foot facility on Fort Meade, taking up basically the golf course at Fort Meade.

02:22:19.000 2.8 million?

02:22:20.000 It's about three times the size of Bluffdale.

02:22:24.000 Just about three times.

02:22:25.000 That's a million square feet.

02:22:26.000 This is 2.8.

02:22:27.000 What I love about the NSA, we've had reporters in San Antonio and in Utah, and you just get there at the Walmart parking lot and start videotaping, they run up, the police go, how dare you videotape us?

02:22:38.000 It's just a public, I mean, it's publicly known, it's there.

02:22:41.000 Meanwhile, they're stealing all of our data, but oh, you can't aim a camera at us.

02:22:45.000 Yeah, right. 0.90

02:22:46.000 It's kind of, they're hypocritical about this. 1.00

02:22:48.000 I mean, it's all, they're all hypocrites. 0.99

02:22:50.000 I mean, they're violating the Constitution. 0.97

02:22:52.000 They say they're not everything that's legal.

02:22:54.000 Well, that's retroactively passing laws.

02:22:55.000 The problem with that is, the laws that they pass have to abide to the Constitution.

02:23:01.000 And when you violate the Fourth Amendment, it doesn't matter what kind of law you pass that says it's okay to do that.

02:23:06.000 It's a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, and it's not constitutional.

02:23:10.000 And, you know, they've said all the Constitution's dead.

02:23:12.000 You ignore it, it won't be a problem.

02:23:13.000 But now we see the President saying, I'm going to open the borders without even an order.

02:23:16.000 Not even Congress.

02:23:17.000 Not even an order from Obama.

02:23:18.000 I'm going to come out with your guns without an order. 0.97

02:23:21.000 Or without a law.

02:23:23.000 They don't even do the fake orders now.

02:23:24.000 They just do it.

02:23:25.000 Obama announced yesterday, no more foyers for the White House.

02:23:28.000 We're just not going to follow the law.

02:23:30.000 I mean, this is dictatorship, not of Obama himself, but of the system, in my view.

02:23:38.000 How would you describe this slide?

02:23:41.000 It's a slide into totalitarianism and an imperial presidency and control of population process.

02:23:49.000 I mean, that's what they're doing.

02:23:50.000 I mean, they kept everybody in the dark so you had no informed electorate to make a decision about who to vote for about these issues or even embracing these issues.

02:23:58.000 They're all avoiding this issue.

02:24:00.000 And they have an uninformed Congress, because that's why Representatives Amos and Conyers got a group together, a coalition of Republicans and Democrats, to try to unfund NSA, because they realized that they were being lied to by the agencies and by the intelligence committees and by the administration about what was going on.

02:24:18.000 So, I mean, they had an uninformed Congress and an uninformed electorate by design.

02:24:23.000 And that's basically what the Soviet Union, the Germans, that's basically what they did.

02:24:29.000 I got a lot of questions coming up for you, William Binning.

02:24:32.000 I want you to be able to speak on other topics you want to get into and go through some slides you gave us that Snowden leaked so you can break this down for people to kind of give us a roadmap of what's going on.

02:24:41.000 But my big question is...

02:24:43.000 As best you know, not being there in 15 years, but what's leaked and what people said, how many people really have access to the big master files to go in and send an order in and then get all my emails from a year ago or go and see a file, a text file of a phone call I had last night?

02:25:03.000 How many people have access to this?

02:25:05.000 Because if Snowden could really get access to all of this, That means government spies could as well.

02:25:11.000 So even if we had good people in government, which we know at the top we don't, they built this fraud.

02:25:17.000 They've built something that could be taken over or hacked and thus compromise everything.

02:25:22.000 You build something that spies on everything, you've just built something that corporations, spies, private corporate criminals, anybody can get into and exploit and sell.

02:25:32.000 And with government's history of selling driver's license, selling uranium, whatever the case is, this looks like it's a giant bazaar of information that they've just opened up.

02:25:43.000 Yes, and internally in NSA they have no monitoring of the network as to what's going on and who's using it.

02:25:49.000 My estimate in terms of, I mean, some of the numbers I've seen say that... Let's stop there, I don't mean to interrupt you.

02:25:54.000 We monitor our network to see what people are doing around here.

02:25:57.000 We monitor to see if they're downloading stuff that's illegal.

02:25:59.000 We have to liability.

02:26:00.000 The NSA doesn't monitor their own network.

02:26:02.000 That's right.

02:26:03.000 In fact, we had proposed in the SARC, the SIGINT Automation Research Center, we proposed a program we called Well Grounded that said we wanted to monitor the entire worldwide network of NSA, who was on it, when they were on it, what they were doing, when they were there, as they did it.

02:26:18.000 And it would be a matter of monitoring the network log, like you probably do here.

02:26:22.000 The same principle, it's the idea where anybody on the network sends data down the line, you can see what they're doing, and that's recorded in the log.

02:26:28.000 So you can analyze that log with software, and that's what we intended and proposed to do.

02:26:33.000 We had two groups opposing that.

02:26:35.000 One were all the analysts saying, you will be able to see everything I'm doing.

02:26:38.000 I don't want you monitoring.

02:26:39.000 Okay.

02:26:40.000 But they're working in a secret government operation.

02:26:42.000 They're the ones that should have a record.

02:26:44.000 Plus, plus that people could just sell their code and let anybody in.

02:26:44.000 Exactly.

02:26:48.000 Yeah.

02:26:49.000 Oh my, I mean, if I was a spy running America, I would want there to be no monitoring.

02:26:53.000 Yeah.

02:26:53.000 Well, that's exactly the point.

02:26:55.000 That's exactly what the analyst said.

02:26:57.000 But the real opposers of it were the managers.

02:27:00.000 And the reason they didn't want that happening was we could watch the movement of all the money.

02:27:05.000 We could see all the money being spent on every program, the return on investment of every program, whether or not they were successful or not, who, what companies were competing for it, all of that kind of stuff.

02:27:14.000 So they didn't want any oversight.

02:27:15.000 So basically it's a giant looting operation.

02:27:18.000 Exactly.

02:27:19.000 In fact, there's no, there is no oversight.

02:27:20.000 There's no auditing of NSA by Congress.

02:27:24.000 Congress does not audit NSA.

02:27:25.000 This is a setup for corruption.

02:27:27.000 Listen, I've had hundreds of employees over the years.

02:27:30.000 We have 50 plus now, best crew I've ever had, hands down.

02:27:35.000 I've turned pretty much any employee loose, do whatever they want in almost every case, they end up going off the reservation causing problems.

02:27:42.000 I mean, the recipe of just leaving home, you know, to your 14 year old son for a year, you'd come back, I mean, it'd be a disaster.

02:27:52.000 Imagine a government agency with billions of dollars a month to spend and there's no oversight.

02:27:58.000 Right.

02:27:59.000 And they have no way of oversight.

02:28:01.000 I mean, even the intelligence committees, all they can do is come out and get a briefing from the people at NSA, and all they hear is what they want to tell them.

02:28:08.000 And the same is true with the FISA Court.

02:28:10.000 The FISA Court has no way of checking or verifying or validating what they're being told.

02:28:13.000 That was one of the main things we suggested to the President, is how to fix NSA.

02:28:18.000 Is to have a technical group that would make sure that what they're telling them is true, being very simply put, I suggest the hackers in the United States, they're the ones who want to find things and solve problems.

02:28:28.000 Take these hackers, give them clearances and give them the authority to go into any agency, in any intelligence community agency in the government, sit at any terminal, look at any database, monitor every program they have and what their analysts are doing at any time.

02:28:41.000 Basically auditors.

02:28:42.000 Yes.

02:28:43.000 And that would verify, be able to verify what they're being told is true.

02:28:46.000 Right now, there is no government in the world that can trust any intelligence agency they've created.

02:28:51.000 I was at Barton Springs last year on a sunny day with two guys and two women sitting next to me on their towels and they were all police going to finish up degrees.

02:29:02.000 Two of them had just finished up to go work at the NSA in San Antonio.

02:29:06.000 They were bragging like they were James Bond and just blabbering classified stuff right next to me.

02:29:12.000 I looked at them and I said, you know, when we take this country back, you're going to be known as like the Nazis.

02:29:17.000 Even if you think this is cute, you shouldn't be laying around on the grass blabbering about it.

02:29:22.000 See, that's what my wife said to me right after we were raided by the FBI.

02:29:26.000 She said she wanted to leave the country.

02:29:29.000 Because she thought this was basically the Gestapo coming in.

02:29:33.000 Stay there, sir.

02:29:34.000 This is incredible. 0.97

02:29:35.000 And I'm going to have to shut up.

02:29:36.000 I'm jumping in a lot because this is just so epic what you're breaking down.

02:29:39.000 William Benny, former technical director of the National Security Agency, is with us.

02:29:43.000 He's going to get into whatever topics he wants to cover, break down where all this is going, the awakening he sees happening, his meetings with Oliver Stone, Snowden info, and more straight ahead.

02:29:54.000 We'll have to go into some overdrive if you've got the energy because this is epic information.

02:29:58.000 We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.

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02:33:10.000 You can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok.

02:33:23.000 But when you actually look at the details, then I think we've struck the right balance.

02:33:27.000 And if people can't trust not only the executive branch, but also don't trust Congress, and don't trust federal judges, to make sure that we're abiding by the Constitution, due process, and rule of law, then we're going to have some problems here.

02:33:44.000 The Alex Jones Show.

02:33:46.000 Because there is a war on, for your mind.

02:33:53.000 All that evil men and tyrants need to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.

02:33:56.000 I think it was Edmund Burke said that, British statesman.

02:34:02.000 There are good people in the government.

02:34:03.000 The government's not our enemy.

02:34:05.000 The big corporations are doing as much spying as the NSA in certain areas.

02:34:09.000 It is the fact that we have let government corporations get out of control.

02:34:13.000 Now there's no oversight.

02:34:14.000 They're doing whatever they want.

02:34:16.000 It's crazy.

02:34:16.000 William Binney, former technical director of the National Security Agency, one of the most high-level whistleblowers of all time.

02:34:24.000 I mean, he has exposed Benedict Arnold-level crimes.

02:34:27.000 They've tried to put him in prison and failed.

02:34:30.000 They have successfully put other patriots in prison.

02:34:32.000 They've put journalists in prison.

02:34:34.000 But for people in the government, better choose a side, because this is classic totalitarianism.

02:34:41.000 Every top constitutional lawyer, whether they're liberal or conservative, has come out and said, we're going over the edge, this is scary.

02:34:48.000 Even Congress is saying that, but there's no oversight, so it's just all out of control now.

02:34:54.000 Now there are centralized groups that have a lot of power.

02:34:57.000 But the scariest thing is, if this was a centralized system, we could probably fix it a lot better.

02:35:03.000 William Bennington, I'm going to give you the floor to cover a bunch of topics you want to get into and go over some of these graphics from Snowden.

02:35:10.000 Am I right from your expert opinion that it's worse that there's not even oversight because there's all these mini-empires and God knows what going on with just unlimited spying happening and Congress doesn't know what to do?

02:35:24.000 I mean, this is just crazy sounding.

02:35:27.000 Is that worse than just having one centralized group running it because we could remove them?

02:35:32.000 I mean, how do you ever get rid of something that's metastasized like this?

02:35:37.000 Well, that's one of the things that we put into suggestions to the President in January of last year.

02:35:43.000 We sent in 21 recommendations on how to fix NSA.

02:35:46.000 One of them was to have our group of technical people be able to monitor everything.

02:35:51.000 And we had another one to have focused collection of data.

02:35:55.000 That kind of data is what's pulled into the NSA, not this bulk acquisition.

02:36:01.000 That removes the possibility of them even querying that data.

02:36:04.000 Because now they can't even access it because it doesn't exist.

02:36:08.000 If you did a focused attack like we did with our program ThinThread back in the 90s, that would have eliminated this bulk acquisition.

02:36:15.000 They couldn't do what they're doing.

02:36:16.000 No one could do love in it, NSA.

02:36:18.000 The FBI and CIA can't get into this data to do whatever they want to, like they can now, because it wouldn't be there.

02:36:25.000 They can't alter the data because they can't get to it.

02:36:28.000 They can now, but because under the ThinThread program, the data wouldn't even be stored there.

02:36:36.000 They wouldn't have it.

02:36:37.000 So they wouldn't be able to do anything with it.

02:36:39.000 That was the point.

02:36:40.000 We had a way of filtering out all domestic communications.

02:36:44.000 Metadata, content, everything.

02:36:46.000 If it was domestic, it just passed right by.

02:36:49.000 We could recognize it was domestic and not even take it in.

02:36:52.000 So we never even acquired it.

02:36:54.000 So it couldn't be stored in any NSA database.

02:36:57.000 It couldn't be accessed by any NSA analyst or anybody in the CIA.

02:37:00.000 So when you were there, the NSA was truly spying on foreign adversaries.

02:37:04.000 Yes, but General Hayden, when he was director, and it was Bush, Cheney, Hayden, and Tenet that decided to spy on everybody.

02:37:14.000 That was to expand the authority of an NSA to go into, in secret by the way, to spy and collect data on every US citizen and everybody on the planet.

02:37:24.000 And so when they did that, that's when I first saw that coming in.

02:37:27.000 That was when I had to wash my hands of NSA.

02:37:29.000 I couldn't be any part of that.

02:37:30.000 I had to leave because that was just a... I couldn't participate or even be associated with those crimes.

02:37:36.000 What did they say to you when you went into your superior's office?

02:37:39.000 I guess that'd be the head of the NSA.

02:37:41.000 What did you say?

02:37:43.000 Actually, I didn't go to them at all.

02:37:44.000 I went directly to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.

02:37:47.000 The reason was, I knew, very simply put, that everybody had been co-opted in the hierarchy of NSA.

02:37:54.000 They committed the crime?

02:37:55.000 Yes.

02:37:56.000 They were all a party to it.

02:37:57.000 All the lawyers, all of the senior managers at NSA had all followed orders from the White House, from Cheney and Bush, to do this.

02:38:06.000 And that's what Hayden directed them to say, that this is what was, this direction was coming from the White House, therefore we're going to do it, it's lawful and we do it.

02:38:13.000 But to talk about what a hero and how much courage you've got, I mean, you know how serious people are in this government, what they do worldwide, how corrupt it's gotten at that point.

02:38:20.000 You had the will to march into Congress and to tell them what was going on, the first guy I mean, that's ten times bigger than Snowden internally.

02:38:28.000 And to really start this whole internal debate and this avalanche of understanding now, I mean, you were really one of the first people to ring the bell to warn folks that the country, as we knew it, was being dismantled.

02:38:40.000 Yes, and in order to do that, I had to meet with one of the staffers of the House Intelligence Committee, Diane Rourke, that I knew.

02:38:45.000 So I met with her at her house, because we couldn't trust the House Intelligence Committee, because they were a part of it.

02:38:52.000 And we also couldn't trust anybody in NSA, so the only place that we'd find we could have a conversation or even talk about this was her house.

02:39:01.000 There was no other place that was secure.

02:39:02.000 In the supposed free country of America.

02:39:04.000 And then you get SWAT team.

02:39:05.000 Tell folks about that.

02:39:07.000 Well yeah, after that and after talking to other members of Congress, and it was actually the morning of the second day after Attorney General Gonzalez's testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on the Terrorist Surveillance Program, where he only talked about the warrantless wiretap program.

02:39:23.000 That was the part that was exposed.

02:39:24.000 And claimed it was for Al Qaeda.

02:39:25.000 Yeah, right.

02:39:26.000 That's right.

02:39:27.000 But that was only a smidgen of what they were doing.

02:39:29.000 I mean, that was like an infinitesimal of what they were really taking in.

02:39:33.000 At that time it must have been a lower percentage of phone calls but the vast majority of emails inside the United States as well as worldwide.

02:39:42.000 Which I estimated to be now at least 80% of the phones calls in the United States are now being recorded somewhere.

02:39:48.000 That's how Tim Clemente could say that after the Boston bombing we can get back to what was said in a phone call between one of the Tsarnaev brothers and his wife before the bombing.

02:39:57.000 Let's be clear, they're saying it on television that they're recording all the calls, but then denying it out of the next breath.

02:40:03.000 That was CNN.

02:40:04.000 Also, Dr. Mueller of the FBI, in his Senate Judiciary testimony on the 30th of March of 2011, said that he got together with the Department of Defense and set up a database where he and the FBI could make one query and get all past and all future emails on a person.

02:40:21.000 Now that tells you that that's coming out of Bluffdale, by the way.

02:40:25.000 All the data is being collected and stored.

02:40:28.000 And so it's not just phone calls, it's emails, it's everything else.

02:40:32.000 And of course some of the recent publications show credit card use is being stored also.

02:40:37.000 How many people in the NSA, how many people have a high enough clearance in government agencies, period, to be able to go in and hear my phone calls, Shay, to my dad yesterday?

02:40:48.000 I believe the figures I've seen, at least what's been published, is probably on the order of about 3,000.

02:40:55.000 Government employees.

02:40:56.000 No, that doesn't count contractors who are managing the data.

02:40:59.000 That's the real rub.

02:41:01.000 You have all these contractors who manage the communications, the computers, the data storage, the query programs, and the communications back and forth between the analysts to ensure all that.

02:41:10.000 Who could do a Snowden-level breach if they wanted?

02:41:11.000 Snowden-level breach, yes.

02:41:13.000 Because they don't have any monitoring system of them.

02:41:13.000 Yeah.

02:41:15.000 Anybody with a system administrator or a super user case, which is what he has, When people say there's no way Snowden could do it, no.

02:41:22.000 It's like it's designed to bring the country down.

02:41:24.000 It's like it's designed to end our national security, and then they're selling it as national security.

02:41:29.000 Well, that gets back to that program we wanted to put in place in 1991 or 92, which was well-grounded to monitor this.

02:41:35.000 And we were opposed by the analysts and the administrators, the managers, because of all the material it exposed that they were doing.

02:41:43.000 But that meant that they left the entire network with no monitoring system at all.

02:41:47.000 That's why they can't tell what Snowden took.

02:41:49.000 They don't have any idea.

02:41:50.000 They're guessing 1.7 million.

02:41:52.000 What's behind an open border?

02:41:54.000 What's behind an open NSA?

02:41:56.000 What's behind... At the end of the day, what do you think the different power elites are thinking?

02:42:02.000 I basically see us moving to a controlled society.

02:42:07.000 A totalitarian state where it is, the government wants to be in charge.

02:42:13.000 I mean, when Reagan said we're a country with a government, I think we're now a government with a country.

02:42:18.000 And all of the things that are happening are only tightening that control on the people.

02:42:23.000 They're going to manipulate them and as long as they can keep them uninformed, And nobody realizes what's going on, or they don't see the threat.

02:42:32.000 If they say, if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.

02:42:36.000 First of all, that's a great quote from Joseph Goebbels.

02:42:39.000 And secondly, that's totally irrelevant.

02:42:41.000 Yeah, they're actually quoting Joseph Goebbels on a routine basis.

02:42:45.000 It's like satire.

02:42:46.000 It's like the lies they keep saying.

02:42:48.000 That's right out of Hitler's playbook. 0.95

02:42:50.000 If you're going to tell a lie, make it a big one and tell it frequently until it's believed.

02:42:54.000 And that's what's going on here.

02:42:56.000 And we're assuming that we trust our government, so we're assuming they're telling us the truth.

02:43:00.000 Well, that's just wrong.

02:43:01.000 It's just a bunch of corporations and private contractors screwing us over.

02:43:05.000 For money, yes.

02:43:06.000 I've been basically said what they did after 9-11 was trade the security of the people of the United States and of the world for money.

02:43:15.000 Because it was all about money.

02:43:16.000 It wasn't about solving the problem.

02:43:18.000 In fact, I originally had a... Because of this problem of not... the contractor's not really solving the problem, I kept thinking, well, their vision statement must be, aim low and miss, you know?

02:43:29.000 Sure.

02:43:29.000 That was what I thought originally, but really in the end, it's keep the problem going so the money keeps flowing.

02:43:34.000 That's the real issue.

02:43:35.000 Their problem is getting the next contract.

02:43:38.000 If you solve the problem, you don't have the problem to get money.

02:43:41.000 That's their philosophy.

02:43:43.000 And that's why they've had a lot of top geopolitical analysts admit now that that's why we have such a corrupt global elite is because they don't ever want to fix any problems because they're getting contracts or their buddies are off of things getting worse.

02:43:55.000 But if they end up destabilizing the whole planet and bringing down civilization, then all their Swiss bank money isn't going to buy Jack Squat.

02:44:04.000 That's another problem with the programs that they've been doing, like recognizing weaknesses in firewalls and operating systems, and weakening encryption systems with the Bull Run program, for example, out of NSA.

02:44:16.000 That's weakening all those things around the world for everybody.

02:44:20.000 You're talking about back doors.

02:44:22.000 Back doors and things like that.

02:44:24.000 They're building back doors and being shappers for real criminals and groups out there. 0.68

02:44:29.000 Yeah, but also weakening encryption systems so that you can penetrate them and read them.

02:44:34.000 So the point is that NSA has no monopoly on smart people.

02:44:39.000 People around the world, hackers and people in Russia and China and so on, all around the world, also have smart people.

02:44:45.000 And they can go in and hack into systems and recognize these weaknesses in the firewalls and operating systems and the encryption systems, so they can penetrate everything too.

02:44:56.000 I mean, the point is if you keep those things weak, which is what the operational side of NSA wants to do, because then that allows them to see into what you're doing.

02:45:06.000 That's like saying we want the average American to have a 70 IQ because that makes us more manageable. 0.94

02:45:12.000 We'll just then be a nation of mentally retarded people. 1.00

02:45:15.000 I mean, I hate to use a bad analogy like that, but it's like, make us totally wide open so we can spy on you, not seeing the fact that it just opens the world up to all these data breaches. 0.84

02:45:25.000 Every day, Bank of America or this or Google losing millions of this, millions of that, credit cards not working, my bank accounts constantly having people doing stuff.

02:45:34.000 I mean, it's just a mess.

02:45:36.000 Yeah, and there's another contradictory point here too.

02:45:40.000 Part of NSA is called IAD, that's Information Assurance Directorate.

02:45:44.000 That directorate is supposed to secure communications within the United States.

02:45:48.000 For the government and for anybody else, they're supposed to share technology so they can improve the security of their networks.

02:45:55.000 Well, that's working against the operational side that wants to penetrate those networks.

02:45:59.000 So, on the one side, you're trying to defend them, on the other, you're trying to attack them.

02:46:03.000 So, the point is... Schizophrenic. 0.97

02:46:05.000 Yeah.

02:46:05.000 When I was in operations, I had solved a system I thought was a pretty significant one, and I thought, well, the IAD people also do that for our side, so I would go over and talk to them about what I've just solved from the other side, the operations side, and tell them, here's the solution on the bad guys.

02:46:22.000 And isn't this very similar to what you do for ours and shouldn't you watch for these kind of penetrations that I can do over here?

02:46:28.000 You know, and they wouldn't talk to me about this.

02:46:30.000 Well, we have hackers that call us, some famous ones, and they tell us holes and stuff we've got.

02:46:34.000 They help us.

02:46:35.000 That's what white hats do. 1.00

02:46:36.000 You're saying they didn't want to communicate and... Exactly, internally in NSA.

02:46:40.000 They didn't want to communicate and share that kind of knowledge.

02:46:43.000 But I told them my side, so they can use it defensively.

02:46:45.000 But by doing the things they're doing, the operations side, seeing all the weakness, isn't telling the defensive side that they... Wow, so these agencies, you always hear this, but they really are their own little fiefdoms, waging war against each other.

02:46:58.000 And that doesn't count going to CIA and the conflicts between CIA and NSA.

02:47:03.000 It's like a competition.

02:47:04.000 Who has the best knowledge, right?

02:47:06.000 Since you bring that up, some people say, and I don't know if it's true or not, and you've talked to Oliver Stone, he's talking to Snowden, that Snowden could be a CIA operative in a dirty war about taking some of the power away from NSA.

02:47:18.000 I think that's basically an effort to deflect what Snowden has compromised and sent to get published about what's going on.

02:47:25.000 It's a side issue.

02:47:26.000 They try to deflect the narrative to something else.

02:47:29.000 Because CIA is a part of this.

02:47:30.000 CIA, and in some of the material slides that I have that Snowden has released, it shows the CIA connection into the NSA databases, which exposes all that data to CIA as well as the FBI.

02:47:44.000 And that's how they do the parallel construction.

02:47:46.000 They first go in and get the data from NSA and then they have to do a parallel construction.

02:47:49.000 That's how the FBI and DEA do it. 0.72

02:47:52.000 And they have almost direct access into those databases.

02:47:57.000 It is surreal that I'm 41 years old and I'm sitting here reaching millions of people with William Binney, the former technical director of the NSA, who ran warfare operations against all these other governments, and you're here telling me that we're going into a total tyranny.

02:48:13.000 I've got all these questions, these Twitter questions, that was one of them, we've got all these...

02:48:17.000 Open phones, I'll give the number out for a couple calls, 800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.

02:48:19.000 We're going to break here in a few minutes, we'll do a little bit of overdrive, and then I'm just so thankful to have you here.

02:48:31.000 What else are key tidbits you'd like to impart to the listeners and viewers out there about what we're dealing with and how you think we may be able to change it?

02:48:41.000 And then separately, you said you think there is an awakening happening.

02:48:45.000 I believe there is.

02:48:46.000 One of the major aspects, though, that I wanted to point out here, and I have it in some of the slides.

02:48:52.000 It was a program called the Treasure Map.

02:48:55.000 And the objective there is to monitor where every device is in the world on the network.

02:49:01.000 Every computer, every phone, every mobile are fixed.

02:49:04.000 And monitor them every minute of every day.

02:49:08.000 So that's keeping a constant track on where you are and where you're moving and where you've been.

02:49:12.000 At what time.

02:49:13.000 And that paired up with the content collection and metadata collection shows them who you are, who you're talking to, what you're talking about, and perhaps even why you're discussing things, and even in a journalist's sense, a wham about what kind of operation you're trying to do.

02:49:31.000 And then you pair that up with the treasure map type approach, getting you the when, when you are somewhere, and where you are when you're doing this.

02:49:39.000 That gives you all the components of a story of your life.

02:49:43.000 And that's what they're really doing.

02:49:44.000 They're pulling all of this data together to get an entire picture of your life.

02:49:48.000 Of everybody on the planet.

02:49:49.000 At least the objective seems to be every device on the network, so I estimate that to be 4 billion people.

02:49:56.000 And monitoring them where they are constantly throughout the day.

02:50:01.000 And we're showing some of the Snowden documents here as you speak.

02:50:04.000 Yes.

02:50:07.000 If you want to back up one, yeah that slide shows all of the programs internally in NSA and how CIA and FBI access them.

02:50:15.000 Skip this break too guys, it's too important.

02:50:18.000 So they go into these programs, the programs on the right basically index the metadata that builds the social networks for, that's Mainway and Marine.

02:50:28.000 All of this was denied, all of this illegal.

02:50:31.000 Right.

02:50:32.000 But it also is storing the content in Pinwhale for the digital network and the voices in the Nucleon.

02:50:38.000 That's where the content is stored and it's indexed against the relationships that are built in the in the graphs in Mainway and Marina so that analysts look at the graphs and they pull out the graph and see something interesting they say okay give me all the content that goes with it and it gets pulled out from those two databases. 0.95

02:50:53.000 So they go through see the metadata see the key things that the algorithm picks that they think might be important then they can drill down and hear you having phone sex with your wife.

02:51:01.000 Exactly, and it's also true of CIA and FBI.

02:51:03.000 They've got access to that too, so.

02:51:06.000 That's how they do the research for crimes or the IRS looks at who's involved with the Tea Party.

02:51:12.000 They get that data right out of the graphs.

02:51:15.000 It's all there in your file.

02:51:16.000 Right, exactly.

02:51:18.000 And they've been caught, as you know, as you said even with yourself, just making stuff up too.

02:51:22.000 They can just add stuff in there.

02:51:24.000 That gives them the opportunity to go in and modify anything they have, right?

02:51:24.000 Yes.

02:51:28.000 And they now with voice print analysis for a long time can take a recording of your voice with different programs that are publicly available, type it in and then create William Binney saying in a speech whatever they wanted to.

02:51:41.000 That's also, we call that manipulation, yeah.

02:51:45.000 And the public doesn't know they can manipulate DNA, they can manipulate biometrics, they can manipulate voice.

02:51:51.000 Well, even some of the metrics that they're using in terms of biometrics, that's kind of within a range of probabilities, so that's still, when they claim, if they claim they have a match, that's not necessarily a match.

02:52:02.000 But they can claim it based on the probabilities that they're... Yeah, I see that all the time.

02:52:06.000 We have a voice print or a face print that you're the person that did this and it turns out it's not true.

02:52:12.000 Those things are only accurate up to a degree, and they won't tell you that that's true, because it weakens their argument.

02:52:19.000 Can you imagine if Stalin or Hitler would have had stuff like this?

02:52:23.000 Well, just think back in the revolution.

02:52:26.000 Washington and the Continental Congress would have been erased immediately.

02:52:31.000 And they used codes themselves.

02:52:33.000 Yeah.

02:52:35.000 But I mean, they wouldn't have had a chance.

02:52:38.000 And then this will just allow tyranny to get the biggest, fattest, and most evil it ever has.

02:52:42.000 Yes.

02:52:43.000 I think we're in for some serious times.

02:52:45.000 Yes, we are.

02:52:46.000 A lot of folks are just going to surrender, but as history shows, you surrender to tyrants, it gets really bad.

02:52:52.000 Yes.

02:52:54.000 Yeah, unfortunately.

02:52:55.000 And when they say they don't collect content or they don't tap into the fiber network randomly in the U.S., there's a slide, a Fairview slide, that shows all of the tap points in the 48 states of the United States.

02:53:06.000 It's not random, it's directed, it's based at convergent points where fibers converge, where they put collection devices where it gives them a much larger view.

02:53:14.000 Sure, the key hops.

02:53:15.000 Right.

02:53:15.000 There it is.

02:53:16.000 No, no, it's not that one.

02:53:17.000 That's worldwide.

02:53:18.000 That's worldwide, yeah, it's before that.

02:53:21.000 That's it, right there.

02:53:22.000 And it's basically following the distribution of the population of the United States.

02:53:26.000 And also, if you know, as they claim, they were only after foreign communications.

02:53:32.000 If they were only after foreign communications, the only sites they would need would be along the coast, where the transoceanic cables surface.

02:53:39.000 Sure.

02:53:40.000 Otherwise, all the other collection points in there are domestic.

02:53:43.000 And there's 80 to 100 taps.

02:53:45.000 And those are the major points for, uh, major sites for, uh, uh... And we have these Death Star plans because of Snowden.

02:53:53.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:53:54.000 Many boffins died against this information.

02:53:56.000 I mean, this, this, this, yeah, this is, this to me is the crime.

02:54:01.000 This is the domestic spying on a... And we have them and they flip it around on Snowden.

02:54:05.000 Right.

02:54:05.000 Well, it's after, you have to... When he's exposing a crime.

02:54:07.000 You have to change the narrative.

02:54:08.000 I mean, this is illegal.

02:54:10.000 Yes.

02:54:10.000 But so is Obama saying the borders can be wide open or he can ban green tip ammo.

02:54:14.000 What we have is a government that's above the law, only we are subjected to the law, and they change it any way they want to fit their desire.

02:54:23.000 Unbelievable.

02:54:23.000 William Binney is our guest in studio.

02:54:27.000 Laura LaRue asked on Twitter, at Real Alex Jones, why haven't we begun impeachment recall process for the feds funding, I got examples of them funding terrorists and spying the blackmail public officials.

02:54:39.000 Why haven't we?

02:54:41.000 I think it's just a continuation of their doing what they want to do and they feel they're above the law.

02:54:45.000 For example, when Nancy Pelosi, when she was Speaker of the House, said impeaching George Bush is off the table, that's because she was one of the first of four people in Congress briefed on these programs.

02:54:56.000 So if she impeached George Bush, George could say to her, you have to impeach yourself because you're a part of this.

02:55:00.000 That's how Julius Caesar, who you mentioned earlier, got control, is he corrupted the patrician families so they were part of it.

02:55:08.000 This was all done in secret too, by the way.

02:55:10.000 They were given secret briefings, they couldn't talk about it.

02:55:13.000 Rockefeller talked in his letter to Cheney about this, that I'm not a technician, I'm not a legal person, but I'm really uncomfortable about this.

02:55:25.000 All they had to do at that point was say, anybody from the House should have stood up and said, look, this is obviously unconstitutional.

02:55:33.000 If you don't stop this, I'm going to introduce impeachment procedures against you in the House.

02:55:37.000 And now the genie's out of the bottle and the Russians and everybody else are doing it. 1.00

02:55:40.000 Yes.

02:55:41.000 And then they argue, well, they're doing it.

02:55:42.000 We've got to do it.

02:55:43.000 This is a disaster.

02:55:44.000 We need international treaties now.

02:55:46.000 We need to dismantle this stuff.

02:55:48.000 We need to go back to You know, as you said, where they only get the metadata, they don't get all the actual data.

02:55:53.000 I mean, they've lied about it so much, they're recording everything.

02:55:58.000 Oh my gosh.

02:56:02.000 There's so many things to get to in these questions.

02:56:06.000 Over and over again they ask, how do we throw off this tyranny, what can we do?

02:56:11.000 Well, I mean, the two, I mean, the main approach right now, I think, is you have to hammer your representatives and senators.

02:56:18.000 And not just with emails or Twitter or phone calls, but also when they come to public forums with the public town meetings.

02:56:26.000 Get up and embarrass them with asking questions of why aren't you why aren't you living up to your office oath of office to defend the Constitution because under this spying they're violating all our constitutional rights of privacy.

02:56:37.000 And we know they're using it to frame people.

02:56:39.000 I want to go to some phone calls but what about Google?

02:56:43.000 And Facebook, and all their relationships with the government, and how they're engaged in spying.

02:56:47.000 I mean, Hertz is putting cameras in the cars.

02:56:50.000 That's mainstream news.

02:56:52.000 Samsung admits their TVs are recording and watching you.

02:56:56.000 They're now putting the terms and conditions of iPhones and Droids.

02:56:59.000 Yes, we're actually recording your voice.

02:57:01.000 I mean, I guess they're trying to cover their butts now, and they're doing it too.

02:57:04.000 Yes, and I think all of this should be declared unconstitutional or illegal.

02:57:09.000 I mean, they shouldn't be allowed to do this.

02:57:11.000 It's crazy!

02:57:13.000 It's all these stars put their photos and sex up on the cloud and then are surprised it gets hacked.

02:57:20.000 Yes, that's the point.

02:57:21.000 I mean, if you weaken systems, everybody can get in.

02:57:24.000 So, and the other point is very simple, that when these companies are doing this, this is a rich environment for NSA and CIA to mine.

02:57:32.000 And the FBI.

02:57:34.000 And they say, okay, now this environment we want and we require you to give it to us.

02:57:39.000 If you don't give it to us, we'll unilaterally tap the lines that you use to pass the data and we'll get it all anyway.

02:57:44.000 And then there's a payment.

02:57:45.000 We know sometimes they pay for it as well.

02:57:47.000 There's a schedule for paying for it. 0.66

02:57:48.000 It's totally sick.

02:57:50.000 But now they're bypassing with all these shell towers and stingrays.

02:57:54.000 They're just building their own networks to spy on us.

02:57:56.000 Yeah, I mean, and in fact, they don't even have to do that anymore now that they have all the SIM cards.

02:58:02.000 And all the keys to get into every cell phone and every computer.

02:58:06.000 All they have to do is download from the towers locally a little implant that says, I want everything you do.

02:58:12.000 I can't believe we're coming towards the end of the interview.

02:58:13.000 We've got a little bit of overdrive coming up.

02:58:15.000 I want to go to Brian, John, Scotty, Matthew and a few others.

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03:00:27.000 William Benny is here with us right now, former technical director of the National Security Agency, just exposing mass crime and a criminal conspiracy of arrogance and fraud that destroys our national security, destroys our children's futures, and is openly used to just rape our basic liberties.

03:00:46.000 Brian, in Florida, you're on the air with William Benny.

03:00:50.000 Go ahead.

03:00:51.000 Yes, Mr. Bernie.

03:00:53.000 I have a question.

03:00:54.000 Basically, I'm a retired C.T.

03:00:56.000 from the Navy, so you probably know what they are.

03:00:59.000 But the way I look at everything, there is probably no way 100% you could ever secure your information.

03:00:59.000 Yep.

03:01:06.000 Is that correct?

03:01:08.000 Yeah, that's pretty much correct, yeah.

03:01:09.000 The way things stand right now, yeah.

03:01:12.000 Yeah, that's what I was figuring.

03:01:13.000 Well, I love that all callers come up, and God bless you for what you're doing.

03:01:17.000 Thank you.

03:01:18.000 Go ahead caller, sorry.

03:01:19.000 Go ahead.

03:01:21.000 He's going to say something else.

03:01:23.000 No, sir.

03:01:23.000 Okay, Ryan, thank you so much.

03:01:27.000 It's so... William, isn't it surreal to know we really became, when it comes to surveillance, a thousand light years ahead of 1984?

03:01:38.000 Yes, and in fact, I would only quote Wolfgang Schmidt, a former lieutenant colonel in the East German Stasi.

03:01:45.000 When he was talking about the NSA spying data, he said, to us, meaning the Stasi, to us, this would have been a dream come true. 1.00

03:01:53.000 They had to work really hard to get what they got.

03:01:54.000 They had hundreds of thousands of files on everybody in East Germany.

03:01:57.000 It was handwritten files.

03:01:58.000 So it was less efficient, less up-to-date, less consolidated, less interactive.

03:02:04.000 You couldn't query it like you can today with the electronic stuff.

03:02:06.000 That's why he said this is a dream come true.

03:02:09.000 That's why the former KGB, now the FSB in Germany, and the Soviet Union, or the Russian now, is adopting all these procedures.

03:02:17.000 They're picking up on this too.

03:02:18.000 It's the way to do it.

03:02:20.000 We are the world leader in evil.

03:02:22.000 Yes.

03:02:23.000 I mean, they started the kind of spying on their own populations, and now we have adopted that procedure and gone N degrees further.

03:02:31.000 Yeah, when I first heard this 15 years ago, I didn't believe it, but they actually hired Marcus Wolfe, the former head of the Stasi, as a consultant, and they're setting up the HUMET Homeland Security Infra-Guard squads, and Bezzi setting up on-the-ground intelligence as well, and it's all political.

03:02:46.000 Man, this country's in trouble!

03:02:49.000 Man, I mean it's like we've got like stage four tyranny cancer.

03:02:49.000 Yes we are.

03:02:53.000 That's why I called it the greatest threat to our democracy since our Civil War. 0.99

03:02:58.000 It is.

03:02:59.000 I mean this is unbelievable.

03:03:00.000 John in Georgia, go ahead, you're on the air.

03:03:04.000 Yes Alex, what I'd like to ask is these programs, the only way that I can see them being operational would be using people's taxes.

03:03:15.000 And why isn't there someone calling for a repeal of, is it the 15th Amendment or the 16th Amendment, to try to cut off the head of the snake, so to speak, so they can't get the funding?

03:03:25.000 Sure, when the government's gone rogue, it does get to the point of saying, we better not pay our taxes.

03:03:29.000 The problem is, they'll just issue more bonds to themselves.

03:03:32.000 It's, it's, it's, that's why they're so arrogant.

03:03:34.000 It's reached cuckoo level, where they have disconnected from reality, in my view.

03:03:38.000 Yeah, I think, I think that's absolutely right.

03:03:38.000 William?

03:03:40.000 I mean, they would just take more debt on, and that's put back on the people anyway.

03:03:44.000 So, I don't think you can stop them that way.

03:03:46.000 You have to get laws passed that will, in Congress, that's supposed to control the purse to cut the spending.

03:03:53.000 Sure.

03:03:53.000 And when it comes to taxes, if you're going bankrupt because of onerous taxes, and you're a hard-working guy and you can't feed yourself, I mean, I wouldn't pay him.

03:04:02.000 And I'm not telling you don't pay him.

03:04:03.000 It's like the mob, they'll break your legs.

03:04:04.000 But, you know, this system is getting so bad that you can't blame... Thank you so much, caller.

03:04:09.000 God bless you.

03:04:10.000 William Binney, what about the issue of having a lawless government?

03:04:12.000 Won't that encourage everybody else to become lawless?

03:04:16.000 Well, I know there's... I mean, I'm hearing from my brother and others in Virginia where they're thinking, geez, this looks like we need another revolution.

03:04:24.000 I wouldn't advocate it.

03:04:25.000 I think we have ways and means of doing it right now, but it's putting pressure on... I mean, if we have to, we have to fire everyone that's in Washington.

03:04:32.000 We just have to fire them all, get rid of them, because they're... I was even recommending a new... having our Article 5 convention to set up a new way of electing people. 1.00

03:04:40.000 That's by randomly picking from the phone book.

03:04:42.000 We certainly can't do any worse than what we've got now.

03:04:47.000 William Benny, I...

03:04:49.000 This is incredible.

03:04:49.000 I'm going to talk to you in the break and see if you want to do this.

03:04:52.000 I have to go to a meeting.

03:04:53.000 We're going to get together tonight again.

03:04:54.000 I would like you, you're a very confident person, you'll hear the music, it'll fade in and fade out.

03:04:59.000 I would like to just let you sit here and have the floor give a ten minute speech and end it that way. 0.99

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03:05:05.000 We're going to come back and do that.

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03:08:14.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

03:08:17.000 This is Bill Binney sitting in for Alex Jones.

03:08:23.000 He's giving me a segment here.

03:08:26.000 State my concerns to you, the American public, about what I feel we need to do in terms of combating and changing the course that our government's taken.

03:08:39.000 From the arguments the government puts forward, they say they're doing this for security of the people of the United States, and they're doing it for terrorism to try to prevent it, and you have to give up your privacy for them to be able to do that, and that's just an outright lie, first of all.

03:08:52.000 And secondly, what's really happening by taking in this bulk data, it's really Overburdening their analysts in the NSA, CIA, all over the world.

03:09:01.000 And so they can't really stop these events of terrorism, like the bombings in Boston, or the shooting in Paris, or in Copenhagen, or the Fort Hood shooter, or any of that, because their analysts are so burdened with data, they use a dictionary select type approach, which is fundamentally a Google approach.

03:09:19.000 That means that when they do their daily polls, they use their dictionary select, and they get like a Google return.

03:09:25.000 Well, that's hundreds of thousands, or even a million returns.

03:09:29.000 No analyst could make it through all that data in any day, and the next day they get an equivalent amount.

03:09:34.000 So that means they're making themselves totally dysfunctional.

03:09:37.000 And that's just not true for NSA, that's also true in GCHQ and around the world, because all these governments are adopting the same procedures.

03:09:44.000 Instead of taking a focused approach, which would make a rich environment of content to be able to manage and analyze, that would make them successful.

03:09:52.000 So fundamentally, they're exposing people to more risk.

03:09:57.000 They're not actually protecting you, they're making it more risky for you.

03:10:00.000 You're losing security because of this procedure they've adopted.

03:10:05.000 So, the point is, from my perspective, I keep arguing, and other NSA whistleblowers and I have made suggestions on how to do this to the government, but the President has not adopted those techniques, nor have any of the intelligence agencies, simply because there is too much money in this process of doing bulk acquisition of data.

03:10:26.000 That's their motive, to keep having the money flow and keep that going.

03:10:32.000 So, changing that particular procedure is rather difficult, even within government, because this money comes out and goes to corporations that are in the constituent areas of the representatives and senators.

03:10:44.000 So they have a vested interest in also keeping this going.

03:10:48.000 So the only way to do it is to raise up as a public.

03:10:50.000 We have to start standing up as Americans.

03:10:52.000 Americans aren't supposed to sit back and let things happen and let Let government do what it does.

03:10:59.000 We're supposed to be out there challenging.

03:11:01.000 We have to be participating in our democracy and republic.

03:11:05.000 We cannot sit by and let these things happen and be quiet.

03:11:08.000 If we do, we're going to get this totalitarian state that we're sliding toward right now.

03:11:13.000 So that's really the basic issue that I have to convey to you, that you need to stand up.

03:11:19.000 How can you do that?

03:11:21.000 You can't sit there and say you don't have any power.

03:11:24.000 You really do have power.

03:11:25.000 And the power is to talk to your representatives and senators and complain to them and make sure that this is a major concern to you.

03:11:34.000 And when they come around to give you town meetings and talk to you and get your vote, stand up and address them and make them publicly come out with a statement of their position on this issue.

03:11:46.000 If you don't, I mean, they're going to continue doing what they are doing right now.

03:11:51.000 They simply say they're assuming, because now if you're not complaining, they're assuming that you're okay with everything they do or they feel they can do anything and the country will accept it.

03:12:03.000 And as long as they keep saying things and not telling the truth and exposing what's really going on, they can keep you in the dark and you'll never know.

03:12:11.000 So that's why you have to get up, stand up, challenge them.

03:12:15.000 I mean, after all, they're even addressing the free press we're supposed to have, like with Jim Risen and Jim Rosen of the AP and various other investigative journalists.

03:12:27.000 They're shutting down their sources of information and keeping them quiet.

03:12:30.000 Well that's destroying a free press.

03:12:32.000 So the free press is supposed to be interrogating the government to see what they're doing so they can inform the public what the government is after and what they're really doing.

03:12:40.000 Well, that's falling totally apart.

03:12:42.000 I mean, look at Jim Rose in his case.

03:12:44.000 They had him under subpoena for any number of years trying to get him to tell the source of information in the books and things he's published.

03:12:53.000 Well, under the press rules, he had the right to keep the sources confidential.

03:12:58.000 So they're attempting to destroy a free press, which is the next step in going to a totalitarian state.

03:13:04.000 So if we don't stand up, Americans, we're going to lose our country.

03:13:08.000 We're going to lose the process that we hold dear, that at least a republic I've had when I grew up, and that my father and his father before him had.

03:13:18.000 I mean, we're going to lose it because we can't trust We cannot trust the government and what they're saying.

03:13:23.000 They, in fact, have been deliberately keeping us in the dark as to what's going on and keeping a lot of Congress in the dark, too.

03:13:31.000 So by doing this complaining to the Congress, you have at least an opportunity to change the process and the sequence of things and where it's headed.

03:13:40.000 Short of that, I mean, you have to fire everybody in Congress.

03:13:45.000 That's the only way to get rid of them.

03:13:46.000 You have to get rid of the bums because they're not living up to their oath of office, which is to protect and defend the Constitution. 1.00

03:13:53.000 The President, of course, has the additional responsibility under his oath of office to preserve the Constitution.

03:13:59.000 He has to preserve, protect, and defend.

03:14:02.000 The others, like when I was in government, I had to protect and defend the Constitution.

03:14:06.000 That's why I felt that what I was doing was consistent with my oath of office, also consistent with being a citizen of the United States, of actively getting and participating in this democracy that we have, is getting up there and standing up and defending that Constitution.

03:14:22.000 At least trying to protect it and defend it.

03:14:24.000 That's something that our representatives in Washington are not doing, and that's something we have to call them on.

03:14:30.000 We have to make sure, as the citizens, that we stand up and say, look, you're in office and we voted you there and your oath of office is to do this to protect our rights, and you're not doing that.

03:14:41.000 And put them on the spot publicly.

03:14:44.000 This is the only way to do it.

03:14:45.000 Sunlight is the only cure.

03:14:47.000 And that's why Edward Snowden has really performed a huge public service by exposing these programs that have been in place and put in place since 9-11 to spy on everybody in the United States and accumulate information on everybody.

03:15:06.000 It's one thing for companies to do it, which I also disagree with.

03:15:11.000 They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

03:15:12.000 But they're doing it for the purpose of advertising and making money.

03:15:16.000 The government's doing it for the purpose of finding criminal activity and also being able to control the population.

03:15:24.000 That's really what's happening.

03:15:25.000 I mean, you could see it in the militarization of your local police and the spread of the Department of Homeland Security and their equipment worldwide and the buying of the bullets and so on.

03:15:37.000 They're all leading to the state of basically being able to control the population.

03:15:44.000 And that's fundamentally what I've been, that's what I testified to in Germany when I gave testimony to the Bundestag, that the entire process that was adopted by NSA and has been spread around the world through all the intelligence agencies, is one of controlling and assembling information to be able to control the population, not just in the United States, but around the world.

03:16:05.000 So this is not just threatening us and our democracy, it's a world, we're destroying democracy around the world.

03:16:11.000 In fact, we're doing such a good job that the Russians and others, what we used to call totalitarian states, are now adopting the procedures that we've implemented.

03:16:20.000 And this basically tells you that we're on the wrong path, our government, since Dick Cheney said publicly on television that we had to go to the dark side.

03:16:31.000 Well, that meant we went to the dark side for rendering, torture, murder, drone strikes, spying on everybody.

03:16:41.000 All of this is the dark side.

03:16:42.000 Well, that's not American, and that's certainly not consistent with the founding principles of this government.

03:16:51.000 We were founded on the principles of human rights, and what the processes that are putting in place now are in fact taking those rights away.

03:17:00.000 So the only way we can change this is to stand up.

03:17:03.000 We have to get active.

03:17:05.000 Say something.

03:17:06.000 I don't care what it is you say or how you say it, but get up and participate and discover and make sure that if you oppose this move towards totalitarianism, you need to speak up and say something.

03:17:16.000 You can't be quiet.

03:17:17.000 You have to get out there and participate.

03:17:19.000 And that's really the theme of what I would like to say to everybody in America.

03:17:24.000 And that's what The only way now to do it is to address your representatives and senators and make sure that you push that on them and keep pushing that.

03:17:37.000 And if they don't start saying them, just tell them you're going to fire them by voting against them the next time.

03:17:41.000 That will get their attention because that's really what they want to do.

03:17:44.000 They want to stay in Congress and be there for years.

03:17:48.000 And that's part of our problem.

03:17:50.000 We don't have term limits, so we end up with what I call petrified politicians in place in Washington.

03:17:57.000 They've been there for so long that it's a never-ending career for them.

03:18:01.000 Well, when you do that with politicians, they tend to think over time that they know better than anybody else and that they don't have They believe that they can make the decisions that are right for the country, whether or not the public in the United States would agree or not, or even if they disagree, that doesn't matter.

03:18:21.000 If their opinion says, let's go another way, then that's what they do.

03:18:25.000 So that's where we have to stand up as a group, and you have to do this as a group and make sure that the wave of public opinion hits them in a place that hurts them, and that's at the voting booth.

03:18:38.000 If you vote against them and fire them, that will get their attention.

03:18:43.000 That's the big thing that I would say. 1.00

03:18:44.000 Fire the bums. 1.00

03:18:46.000 Get rid of them. 0.99

03:18:47.000 And I would say if there's an incumbent list, if there's a word incumbent after somebody, you're in the voting booth.

03:18:55.000 I would say more than likely it's better to vote against them.

03:18:58.000 Like I said earlier, the best way I would see to do it is to randomly select people from the phone book and give them every two years a chance to get into office that way.

03:19:12.000 Think about that for a minute.

03:19:13.000 That would mean you get mostly people who would want to be honest.

03:19:16.000 That's certainly a change from what we've got.

03:19:19.000 And you get people who would like to balance a budget.

03:19:23.000 That's certainly new.

03:19:24.000 I mean, we could reduce the deficit that way for sure.

03:19:27.000 And you'd get mostly people who would like to cooperate to solve a problem.

03:19:31.000 That certainly is new too.

03:19:34.000 And the other benefits, think about it, the political parties would be gone.

03:19:39.000 You wouldn't have to do Campaigns or any of that, you wouldn't have all this vested interest and lobbyists going on.

03:19:49.000 So you could end up getting all these positive effects by randomly selecting from the phone book.

03:19:55.000 And politicians should realize from us that we're saying that's a better way to do it than what we've got now.

03:20:03.000 So thank you very much for your time and listening.

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Alex Jones Show - March 18, 2015

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