Alex Jones Show - 20150419_Sun_Alex

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00:00:20.000 Nobody. Nobody. Nobody.

00:00:33.000 Nobody stages false flag terror attacks in this country and gets away with it.

00:00:38.000 You may get away with it in your kangaroo courts.

00:00:41.000 You may get away with it with your dying dinosaur media.

00:00:43.000 But in the real court of public opinion, where the rubber meets the road, everybody knows who carried out the Oklahoma City terror attack 20 years ago today, April 19th, 1995.

00:00:56.000 And it's already 2015.

00:00:57.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:01:01.000 We've got a power-packed, very informative, staggering transmission today.

00:01:06.000 Joe Biggs is back from the border.

00:01:09.000 He met with counterterrorism folks from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

00:01:13.000 He went across the border where Judicial Watch has reported an ISIS training base.

00:01:18.000 He'll have breaking news with us on that front.

00:01:21.000 We have huge vaccine news.

00:01:23.000 We have mainstream media trying to claim that the mainline Republican Party and conservatives are basically all Tim McVeigh's.

00:01:29.000 That story's up on Infowars.com.

00:01:32.000 We've got Iran's ship convoy moves towards Yemen alarming U.S.

00:01:35.000 officials.

00:01:36.000 We've got a mystery illness that's killed 18 people in 24 hours.

00:01:41.000 We've just got a lot of really important news today, and some pro-Second Amendment news, some vaccine news.

00:01:47.000 It's all coming up.

00:01:48.000 But first, an extremely informative report that Leanne McAdoo filed on some of the brainwashing and propaganda going on in Congress that we covered earlier in the week.

00:01:58.000 But she really crystallizes it, where they're implying that bloggers, period, are like cult members or ISIS.

00:02:06.000 You can't make this up.

00:02:07.000 Here's our report, and then we'll be back.

00:02:09.000 Almost like a cult, I would say, that is formed online and they mobilize and they feel like they are part of some enlightened fight against the establishment.

00:02:21.000 They find an outlet where they can, a platform to voice their deranged views.

00:02:28.000 That was former RT host Liz Wall testifying about the big bad internet, saying that it provides a platform for fringe voices and extremists, and what a problem it is that conspiracy theorists are dominating online discussions, bypassing all those paid government trolls, and able to be so effective that they're riling up massive amounts of people.

00:02:51.000 Oh goodness!

00:02:52.000 Wall was called on as an expert witness at a House Foreign Relations Committee hearing titled, Confronting Russia's Weaponization of Information.

00:03:02.000 Now the threat there is not combat weapons or war games, but rather the growing popularity of alternative TV and radio programming that challenges the establishment narrative.

00:03:13.000 Hmm, could that be because people are ready for a little bit of truthful news?

00:03:17.000 Now, Wahl also went on to characterize those of us involved in this pushback as cult members, completely oblivious of the fact that blindly gobbling up and regurgitating the state narrative of your dear leader without question is in fact cultish behavior.

00:03:35.000 Wall gained notoriety last year for quitting Russian state media during a live broadcast.

00:03:41.000 There was a totally inauthentic move that had been planned months in advance and was orchestrated with the help of James Kirchick, who is a former employee of Radio Free Europe.

00:03:52.000 Radio Free Europe, along with the Voice of America, have been pumping pro-US propaganda around the globe for decades.

00:04:00.000 It's been very effective.

00:04:01.000 That's pro-globalist.

00:04:02.000 So clearly it's a case of do as I say, not as I do.

00:04:05.000 Now when Wahl talks about RT being a network that doesn't play by the rules, she's speaking of the unspoken rule of reciting White House talking points.

00:04:15.000 Now, there's no doubt RT definitely puts out pro-Russian propaganda, but it also broadcasts truths about geopolitics and foreign policy that Americans will never see on mainstream corporate networks, precisely because those networks are engaged in propaganda.

00:04:33.000 We are in an information war, and we are losing that war.

00:04:37.000 But rather than change their methods to, oh I don't know, actual transparency and truth-telling, they are desperately trying to stifle the rising alternative voices that are effectively promoting freedom.

00:04:50.000 I'm Leanne McAdoo for InfoWars.com.

00:04:54.000 And again, Leanne, when she makes the point saying pro-U.S.

00:04:54.000 That's right, folks.

00:04:57.000 propaganda, she means globalist propaganda that's hard to destroy the U.S.

00:05:01.000 effectively.

00:05:02.000 She means New World Order propaganda. 0.52

00:05:04.000 They just use us as their command base.

00:05:09.000 I was born on the prairies where the wind blew free, and there was nothing to break the light of the sun.

00:05:15.000 I was born where there were no enclosures.

00:05:18.000 Geronimo.

00:05:19.000 I wonder what he thinks of the permanent checkpoints, where you're quizzed about your citizenship, about having to submit to bag searches to ride public transportation, his thoughts on non-violent offenders riding away in prisons.

00:05:31.000 They say that in these current times we are more, quote, civilized, But are we really more free?

00:05:38.000 When the Persian army demanded King Leonidas and his Spartans surrender their arms, the outnumbered king shouted, Molon lave, or come and take them.

00:05:47.000 Even though Leonidas was eventually defeated by a much larger adversary, he is not remembered for his loss.

00:05:53.000 He lives in history as a beacon of defiance and self-defense.

00:05:57.000 The desire to disarm the people is nothing new.

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00:06:55.000 With open commentary and open opinion, leaning strongly and unapologetically towards liberty and freedom and family and self-defense and private property and sovereignty and defending the old, defending veterans, defending the unborn, treating people like we want to be treated.

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00:07:44.000 The weekday broadcast, of course, is 11 a.m.

00:07:46.000 to 2 p.m.

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00:07:49.000 Joe Biggs is going to be in studio with us for several segments.

00:07:53.000 He and our intrepid cameraman, Josh Owen, went down to the Mexico border.

00:07:58.000 Joe Biggs went in with some of his old contacts when he was stationed down there in the U.S.

00:08:02.000 Army at Fort Bliss.

00:08:04.000 One of the most dangerous areas, probably the most dangerous, in fact they say it's the most dangerous area in Mexico, right across from that US military base there in El Paso.

00:08:16.000 They have found hundreds of mass graves, with hundreds of people in some cases per mass grave, right across there.

00:08:21.000 The drug cartels fully control the area.

00:08:23.000 Judicial Watch came out and reported a week and a half ago that they had credible sources that ISIS was engaged in human smuggling, probably to make money.

00:08:33.000 uh... with quote other than mexicans a predominantly a middle easterners that are the third largest group coming across it's mexicans and then other than mexicans you think it would be uh... latin americans and others but it's actually chinese and then it's uh... arabs uh... coming in uh... because well i don't get all the reasons why the point is is that some happening and unfolding Joe Biggs was called through this office by the FBI.

00:09:04.000 We have the card.

00:09:05.000 We have their names.

00:09:06.000 They asked us not to give their names because they're in anti-terrorism.

00:09:10.000 That's fine.

00:09:10.000 We won't.

00:09:11.000 But FBI agents met Biggs at El Paso Airport.

00:09:14.000 Biggs called FBI field office in El Paso to confirm agent's name.

00:09:18.000 The FBI agent asked not to be named.

00:09:20.000 He had an associate with him, due to the fact he's counter-terrorism.

00:09:22.000 Josh Owens sat with Biggs while agents asked him for intel on ISIS in Mexico.

00:09:27.000 Agents said Judicial Watch was a credible source, and they look into what they write about, and basically said that they had intel that that was happening, but couldn't comment.

00:09:35.000 So basically confirming that they are looking at ISIS over the border.

00:09:39.000 The agents wanted to know, again, what he saw, how he got in, and what things stood out in Anarpa.

00:09:48.000 That area of Mexico, the most dangerous area of Mexico, bar none. 0.59

00:09:54.000 So Joe Biggs will be joining us on that front.

00:09:56.000 Regardless, it's real journalism.

00:09:59.000 Journalists do not go into this area of Mexico.

00:10:02.000 It's totally different than Juarez and other areas that are dangerous, but nothing compared to this.

00:10:08.000 It's a veritable ghost town.

00:10:10.000 With very little foot traffic, very little vehicles, and it's where the main cartels basically battle it out.

00:10:16.000 And so Joe will be joining us to break that down.

00:10:19.000 And there's more news!

00:10:21.000 Islamic State, ISIS, has come out.

00:10:23.000 I've told you they've done this before, and I haven't given a lot of attention, because in the final equation, it's what they're looking for.

00:10:31.000 They've threatened us.

00:10:33.000 They've called.

00:10:35.000 Their official Twitter and Facebook has attacked us, and I ask the question, why are they allowed to operate on Twitter and Facebook?

00:10:40.000 Because higher-level Western sources want to basically hype this threat, allow this threat to grow, allow attacks to happen, to then get more anti-terror funding, which can then be basically projected onto the American people themselves.

00:10:55.000 But here it is, InfoWars reporter featured in new ISIS video.

00:10:59.000 Footage shows dramatized clips of 9-11 attack, gruesome beheadings interspersed with Joe Biggs at the border, and they say in Arabic, yes, InfoWars, yes Joe Biggs, you're right, we are on the border, we can come across.

00:11:12.000 So that is what ISIS is saying.

00:11:17.000 And the other articles on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:11:20.000 FBI seeks intel from InfoWars reporter over ISIS border threat.

00:11:25.000 You can see both those videos at InfoWars.com right now.

00:11:30.000 Now, as I said, getting into all of this, what happens is they pass the Patriot Act, which is up for reauthorization now, Back in 2001, on the heels of 9-11.

00:11:47.000 And the whole thing, I watched the hearings on C-SPAN, was focused on gun owners, veterans, libertarians, but also drug dealers, land rights activists, I mean real criminals, but also people trying to save the country.

00:12:02.000 The point was, it was not focused on Al-Qaeda.

00:12:07.000 Now reborn bigger and badder as ISIS. 0.95

00:12:10.000 It was not dealing with that.

00:12:12.000 It was always about the general public.

00:12:15.000 And the Patriot Act is used every few seconds now by the feds in this country to circumvent the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:12:22.000 They've used 9-11 to basically blow giant smoking holes in the Constitution and Posse Comitatus.

00:12:29.000 Where we have militarization of police and troops everywhere.

00:12:32.000 And there's always excuses for why it's happening.

00:12:34.000 There's always a good reason up front, but that's never the real reason.

00:12:38.000 They gotta convince the military and police, who in many cases are very patriotic and smart people, to go along with this.

00:12:43.000 So at first, you know, all these different government training operations, it's about fighting Al-Qaeda.

00:12:50.000 But down the road it becomes veterans, gun owners, libertarians.

00:12:53.000 And now you see that in the news.

00:12:55.000 In fact, CNN today.

00:12:57.000 How extremist threat remains 20 years after Oklahoma City bombing.

00:13:01.000 And Kurt Nemo breaks down the article at Infowars.com with the quotes pulled out where they say now all libertarians, conservatives, the Republican Party themselves, they're basically terrorists.

00:13:12.000 Here's the headline.

00:13:13.000 Corporate Media McVeigh's Anti-Government Sentiment Now Mainstream in Republican Party.

00:13:17.000 Columnist Repeats Absurd Fairytale About Republicans and Oklahoma City Bombing.

00:13:22.000 Yeah, within 35 minutes of OKC bombing happening 20 years ago today in Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, they were blaming talk radio and Rush Limbaugh by name.

00:13:35.000 Now, I've made three films on Oklahoma City.

00:13:38.000 I've interviewed the police officers that survived, the families of police officers that were tortured to death by the Justice Department and killed.

00:13:45.000 I have covered every fashion of it, and I'm not going to spend all day on this.

00:13:49.000 I'm just going to tell you.

00:13:50.000 If you're a new listener and you don't know what a self-inflicted wound is, what a false flag is, Hitler blew up, firebombed his own Reichstag, right after being elected, February 27th, 1933.

00:14:02.000 Nuremberg didn't even declassify it until about a decade ago it was released.

00:14:06.000 Because government didn't even want you knowing how governments operate.

00:14:10.000 Because they do it so much too.

00:14:11.000 Hitler firebombed the Capitol.

00:14:14.000 And then basically declared martial law.

00:14:15.000 The rest is history, you know what happened.

00:14:17.000 He launched false flags in Operation Himmler, in Glywoods and other areas, to blame Poland for attacking German military bases.

00:14:25.000 You don't think Hitler just invaded Poland and told Germans because he felt like it.

00:14:29.000 He blew up his own military bases.

00:14:32.000 That's declassified.

00:14:34.000 That came out after World War II.

00:14:36.000 So, that's what a false flag is, and we've never had one so open and shut as Oklahoma City.

00:14:43.000 I've interviewed Jane Graham in HUD, who for exercise would take the stairs and saw known FBI, known ATF, and German intelligence, because it later came out in the news, planting the gray sticks of butter.

00:14:58.000 And the cops that showed up right after the bomb went off, they saw the same guys.

00:15:02.000 That's why, you know, medical doctor and cop of the year, Terence Yeagey, the drug folks out of the building, that's why they were killed. 0.96

00:15:10.000 And I've talked to Don Browning, the head of the K-9 unit, who the government came into his office and said, we will kill you and your wife if you don't shut up.

00:15:17.000 So, let me explain something. 0.96

00:15:19.000 McVeigh was a patsy, that was a staged event.

00:15:23.000 McVeigh basically thought they were just doing a drill and were going to set up white supremacists at Elohim City.

00:15:29.000 When he found out they were going to go operational, just like Ahmad Salam, who we've had on, New York Times headline, who tried to stop the first World Trade Center attack.

00:15:38.000 They gave him a real bomb, real detonators.

00:15:41.000 Let it go forward.

00:15:41.000 Remember all that?

00:15:43.000 Same thing with McVeigh.

00:15:44.000 That's why they hung him out to dry as the patsy.

00:15:48.000 He did not want to blow up the daycare center.

00:15:49.000 He was the only guy that didn't want to go along with it.

00:15:51.000 And she saw McVeigh with them planting the bombs.

00:15:54.000 And then the very FBI guys go, we weren't in town, we were in Dallas.

00:15:58.000 They filled out stuff at the Marriott the day and a half before.

00:16:01.000 They were there.

00:16:02.000 So, that's what happened 20 years ago.

00:16:04.000 A false flag.

00:16:05.000 We're going to talk to Joe Big straight ahead.

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00:20:14.000 It's always a tough boat because the average person thinks raising the debt ceiling must mean that we're running up our debt.

00:20:34.000 Raising the debt ceiling, which has been done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt.

00:20:40.000 It does not somehow promote profitability.

00:20:43.000 All it does is it says, you've got to pay the bills that you've already racked up, Congress.

00:20:49.000 That's right.

00:20:50.000 Raising the debt does not raise the debt.

00:20:51.000 And you can keep your doctor, though you can't.

00:20:53.000 And Obama's not going to come out with your guns, but he did.

00:20:55.000 That's right.

00:20:58.000 You are listening to the Alex Jones Show.

00:20:59.000 I am your host, Alex Jones.

00:21:00.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:21:02.000 Joe Biggs, Infowars.com Report.

00:21:04.000 We'll be with us for the rest of the hour.

00:21:06.000 Then I'll cover news, the first few segments of the second hour.

00:21:08.000 And then we have...

00:21:11.000 A really interesting group of authors on Confessions of a D.C.

00:21:15.000 Madam. 0.98

00:21:16.000 I interviewed the D.C.

00:21:18.000 Madam about a month before she was killed.

00:21:21.000 And she was trying to tell me stuff off air.

00:21:23.000 And I said, listen lady, listen to your phone right now. 0.76

00:21:26.000 None of this is not on air.

00:21:26.000 I don't want to be told.

00:21:29.000 And they hung her, they killed her, and I investigated it.

00:21:32.000 We'll talk about that, but they've got some of the inside intel, the first-hand accounts of different cases of things that have unfolded like this.

00:21:41.000 So that's going to be coming up, understanding how they blackmail people, how they're controlling folks.

00:21:47.000 If you are criminal interest that want to control government because of the fabulous wealth and power you can have through that, how do you checkmate a country based on due process and freedom?

00:21:59.000 Well, you declare a national security state, you operate in the shadows, you fund foreign enemies, so there's an outside threat.

00:22:04.000 You then profit on battling that outside threat.

00:22:07.000 That outside threat's able to consolidate control in its country, because they can then say that you're a threat.

00:22:13.000 This is the Hegelian dialectic of problem, reaction, solution.

00:22:16.000 And if you are the globalists that want to take the guns, open the borders, do the rest of this, but you can't, well, you just staged false flags, like Oklahoma City 20 years ago, and blame it on your political enemies.

00:22:28.000 And if you can't get Congress to totally open the borders and sign global treaties and shut off the power plants and do all the rest of it, you just start doing it with executive power and say, remove me from office.

00:22:40.000 But the media then plays along with that.

00:22:42.000 So we are in a tyranny by any yardstick.

00:22:44.000 Do I think the military is going to take over tomorrow?

00:22:46.000 No.

00:22:48.000 But politicians are trying to put the military and the police into a role of political police, political suppressors, banning free speech, banning filming police, banning criticizing politicians at city halls.

00:23:02.000 We've all seen the footage.

00:23:03.000 There's an attempt to shut up dissent in this country, and dissent is the sunlight that will disinfect things.

00:23:11.000 Coming up, we're going to cover the waterfront with Joe Biggs riding shotgun with me.

00:23:14.000 Brain damage victims of swine flu vaccine win $63 million.

00:23:19.000 That's been released by the federal government.

00:23:22.000 You won't see that in the news.

00:23:23.000 I thought they were all safe and effective.

00:23:25.000 We're going to get into Texas, set to approve open carry of handguns.

00:23:28.000 Some good news spreading across the country.

00:23:32.000 The bad news, the end of the license plate as they move towards RFIDs.

00:23:36.000 Track everywhere you go and tax you by the mile.

00:23:39.000 That's mainstream news pushing that.

00:23:40.000 Told you that was coming.

00:23:42.000 And that ties into this.

00:23:43.000 Congress is attempting to reauthorize key Patriot Act provisions by sneaking it into USA Freedom Act.

00:23:50.000 That's Liberty Blitzkrieg on Infowars.com.

00:23:54.000 Here's an article breaking it down.

00:23:57.000 What is this?

00:23:58.000 The London Guardian.

00:24:00.000 NSA and FBI fight to retain spy powers as surveillance law nears expiration.

00:24:07.000 Debate reignites on Capitol Hill with Patriot Act set to expire.

00:24:12.000 And that ties into FBI overstated forensic hair matches in nearly all trials before 2000.

00:24:17.000 And that was because Frederick Whitehurst, who we've interviewed, the former head of the Crime Lab, went public saying they were basically being ordered to frame everybody.

00:24:26.000 He's been on the show like four or five times.

00:24:28.000 It's still going on.

00:24:29.000 So the thing is, you can't trust any of this.

00:24:32.000 Does that mean that the FBI... You know, I love Joe Begg's Friday night And then Saturday he posted videos, you know, in South Texas, in El Paso, at the airport, meeting with the FBI who wanted to meet with him.

00:24:45.000 Folks are like, what are you doing? 0.64

00:24:47.000 Meet with the FBI, traitors! 0.99

00:24:49.000 We'll meet with whoever! 0.87

00:24:51.000 You know, local, when Joe called me and said, should I meet with them?

00:24:54.000 I said, if they're local FBI, if they're in the local office, I would meet with them.

00:24:57.000 They're going to ask you about what you saw, what went on.

00:25:00.000 If you're going down there again, they'll want to use you as a source.

00:25:02.000 A lot of people low-level are doing a really good job.

00:25:05.000 They're just not allowed, just like on 9-11, a bunch of FBI offices in Dallas, Phoenix, Minneapolis, St.

00:25:11.000 Paul tried to stop what happened.

00:25:12.000 They were ordered to stand down.

00:25:13.000 But I said, if it's feds or attached to the Justice Department, do not talk to them, and don't even go to the airport.

00:25:19.000 Run.

00:25:20.000 Run.

00:25:21.000 Because that's Southern Poverty Law Center. 0.76

00:25:24.000 You know, that's the folks that brought you the false flags.

00:25:28.000 That's the Eric Holder FBI.

00:25:30.000 You don't want to get anywhere near them.

00:25:31.000 But no, he met with them.

00:25:32.000 They were pretty good guys.

00:25:33.000 And Joe's here to talk about that.

00:25:35.000 His experience is going in the most dangerous area of Mexico right next door. 0.99

00:25:39.000 To the Texas border there by El Paso did a great job Joe What do you want to tackle first meeting with the FBI and then confirming that you know, we take judicial watch is credible But they're unable to go further Or do you want to get into the situation?

00:25:55.000 That you witnessed inside Mexico Yeah, we can start from the beginning.

00:25:59.000 You know, it was a Thursday Josh Owens and I were able to fly over into Right over in Napra and be able to witness some of these different compounds that were in the area and kind of get like a bird's eye view of what was going on.

00:26:14.000 It was very hard to go through the footage and see anything so that's when I decided hey I'm gonna go into Mexico myself and try and spot something.

00:26:21.000 I told you that was up to you because it is dangerous.

00:26:24.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, we talked to some border patrol, I talked to some locals, you know, I had a few people who said they were going to drive me in, and then they all backed out.

00:26:31.000 Because Annapolis is an area where people, when they were teenagers, would try to go into and see who could stay the longest, and that's how, like, hard they would be, like, as kids.

00:26:39.000 It's total cartel run, mass graves everywhere.

00:26:42.000 Yeah, I mean it's... Once you come out of Juarez, when you're not in an opera, it's like being in Iraq. 0.88

00:26:47.000 You've completely... I was hundreds of yards away from Josh Owens on the other side of the border, and he's watching out for me, but I felt like I was on the other side of the world, all alone, that if something happened there and he watched, there's nothing he could do.

00:26:59.000 And I want to be clear, if anybody does... I grew up in Texas, so I know about this.

00:27:02.000 You were stationed down there, so you know.

00:27:03.000 They have found hundreds of mass graves, sometimes 100, 200 people in them, including kids.

00:27:09.000 I mean, this is the most insane death zone, but it's hardly in the media.

00:27:13.000 They play it down.

00:27:14.000 Go ahead.

00:27:16.000 The thing that was scary is being out there, being a gringo in a truck with American plates, riding through an opera. 1.00

00:27:23.000 You know, everyone's looking at us, just cartel spotters on every corner with a cell phone just watching you.

00:27:28.000 Every little move you make, what you're doing.

00:27:30.000 Every time groups of people would walk by, I would just try to put my head down.

00:27:34.000 You know, put my main camera down, just had the GoPros going.

00:27:38.000 I mean, it's one of those areas, if something would have went wrong, one of those guys would have just felt suspicious, any, with us being there.

00:27:44.000 I mean, that would have been in my head, literally.

00:27:45.000 And what's the name of the video?

00:27:47.000 It's InfoWars Reporters go into an opera.

00:27:51.000 We can roll some of that footage while you talk.

00:27:53.000 This is just amazing.

00:27:54.000 Yeah, like I said, I mean, there was just dead carcasses, like animals and stuff on the side of the road.

00:27:59.000 I mean, it was just like being in Iraq.

00:28:01.000 It smelled like rotten eggs.

00:28:02.000 And there was this huge compound with concertina wire on the top.

00:28:06.000 We saw that mosque-looking building as well.

00:28:08.000 There was one of the huge cartel houses that I didn't know was a cartel house until after I spoke with FBI.

00:28:14.000 And they said that's like a very heavily armed area.

00:28:18.000 And me and this guy, my buddy, were just driving up and down beside it.

00:28:21.000 Like, you know, we didn't even know what we were doing.

00:28:23.000 We didn't know how dangerous the area was that we were in.

00:28:26.000 We didn't know how much of a threat there would have been.

00:28:28.000 You also went into the air.

00:28:30.000 Yeah.

00:28:30.000 Yeah, we flew over those areas, too.

00:28:33.000 I mean, there's always a chance someone could take pop shots at you, too.

00:28:36.000 Josh had read an article where the Mexican government, you know, had ordered people to, like, shoot down planes that come over Mexico because sometimes they think they're, like, cartel planes taking drugs, so they start shooting them down.

00:28:47.000 The only other place that may be as dangerous as one sector on the Guatemala-Mexico board.

00:28:47.000 No, there's no doubt.

00:28:51.000 Because I've had professors on that have written books on the hot zones.

00:28:54.000 That is the hot of the hot of the hot.

00:28:58.000 Over 100,000 people dead, total we know about, and a huge portion of them right there.

00:29:02.000 We're going to come back, talk about your meeting with the FBI counterterrorism unit at the airport.

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00:33:51.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

00:34:00.000 So, you have these no-man's lands where the cartels control things like an opera right across the border from El Paso.

00:34:10.000 And there's no grocery stores, there's no shops, there's no nothing because the cartels want to push all normal activity out, the police, the military out, and totally control it.

00:34:21.000 That's where Joe Biggs went.

00:34:24.000 Then the FBI wanted to question him.

00:34:25.000 Why were we there?

00:34:27.000 Because judicial watch that I've been covering for 20 years, it's about 19 years old, has been very accurate over and over again and they said that there is a training camp over the border hidden in that area.

00:34:37.000 We found aerial shots of guys in trucks and eight guys marching in black uniforms and weird looking mosque and we're just drawing attention to this so it gets investigated more because ISIS Has been threatening us through Facebook, Twitter.

00:34:52.000 They've launched new attacks in Iraq, in other areas today, in Libya.

00:34:57.000 700 people just drowned trying to get out of Libya because of them. 0.99

00:35:00.000 We're going to talk about that in the next segment.

00:35:02.000 I mean, Al-Qaeda was like a made-up force the West was funding and protecting. 0.85

00:35:07.000 They were real jihadis, but the globals were feeding them like rabid dogs at a distance to then attack America so they could take our freedoms.

00:35:14.000 But ISIS is taking over major countries.

00:35:18.000 Shipping lanes, uh, ports.

00:35:21.000 So, we're in Texas, we'd be crazy when Joe Biggs was stationed down there at Fort Bliss and we have contacts and the Border Patrol would not go down there.

00:35:28.000 That's what real journalists do.

00:35:30.000 Nobody else does that.

00:35:32.000 And I mean nobody, but Vice might go into some more internal stuff that's really nothing.

00:35:36.000 I'm not saying Vice doesn't do some bold stuff.

00:35:38.000 They've been hit with rubber bullets with our reporters, like Joe, you know, up in Ferguson just covering it.

00:35:42.000 We weren't even anti-police.

00:35:45.000 Then I see the commenters, it's a minority of them on Infowars.com, you know, going, oh, it's not dangerous, big deal.

00:35:51.000 Let me tell you, the FBI wouldn't go in there.

00:35:54.000 Plus, they don't have jurisdiction.

00:35:56.000 This is extremely dangerous.

00:35:58.000 Mexico has the highest crime rate in the world, and then you're in the hot zone of the hot zone.

00:36:03.000 So, Joe, describe going in for folks a little bit more, and let's get into the FBI.

00:36:08.000 Yeah, when you go in there, it's just complete and total just chaos.

00:36:12.000 You know, the traffic, how everything is.

00:36:14.000 Everyone's just rushing.

00:36:15.000 Me and my guide almost saw two little kids just murdered by a bus driver.

00:36:21.000 They just don't care.

00:36:21.000 They were just driving.

00:36:22.000 Little kid was out on the road playing.

00:36:24.000 And this bus just swerved around me and my guy.

00:36:27.000 And the little five-year-old girl barely grabbed that boy and pulled him just within inches of his life. 0.99

00:36:31.000 That would have just been a murdered two kids right there on the ground. 0.72

00:36:34.000 No one would have done anything.

00:36:35.000 No one would have known.

00:36:36.000 So it's anarchy.

00:36:37.000 We're showing people being shot at a grocery store for no reason right now by the cartels.

00:36:41.000 Yeah, I mean, it's complete and total lawlessness.

00:36:43.000 It's just crazy out there.

00:36:45.000 And, you know, you get out there and it's just being completely alone.

00:36:51.000 Even though, like I said, I was hundreds of yards away from Josh Owens, I felt like I was all alone.

00:36:56.000 It was scarier than being in Iraq in the sense that in Iraq I at least had a gun, I at least could defend myself, and I had a group of people.

00:37:03.000 Here I am, one person sticking out like a sore thumb, a white boy in an opera Mexico with no gun, armed with only a camera and a cell phone.

00:37:10.000 You know, that's pretty intense.

00:37:12.000 So the FBI calls The truck you went in with, break that down.

00:37:18.000 Yeah, so Saturday morning, I am coming back from the East Portillo Mountains with Josh.

00:37:26.000 We'd been out there filming.

00:37:27.000 That was the area where they said they had those ISIS spotters up in the mountains.

00:37:30.000 So we went out there, drove about an hour and a half, went out there and checked it out.

00:37:34.000 I get back into El Paso and we're just kind of, you know, going over articles, just kind of like wasting time until it's time to get on the aircraft and, you know, fly back this way.

00:37:43.000 I get a message on my phone, and it's a guy who said, hey, have you seen this new video?

00:37:47.000 You're in this new ISIS video.

00:37:50.000 So I'm like, wow, that's crazy.

00:37:51.000 So I look at it.

00:37:52.000 We haven't even gotten to that part yet.

00:37:53.000 Yeah.

00:37:53.000 You're now in the official ISIS website.

00:37:55.000 So I get this video.

00:37:57.000 Twenty minutes later, we finish eating, and I get a call.

00:38:00.000 You're now featured in the video that's nationwide, worldwide news.

00:38:04.000 We will burn America. 0.90

00:38:05.000 Yeah.

00:38:06.000 So, 20 minutes later I get this call and it's the, uh, my buddy who drove me over into Mexico.

00:38:11.000 He goes, hey, you know how I told you last night that, uh, someone called and they were looking for you?

00:38:16.000 He says, I just got a call again.

00:38:18.000 They said it's the FBI.

00:38:19.000 They want to know, uh, where you're at and, uh, you know, what you're doing.

00:38:23.000 So at first I was kind of like, uh, okay, this is a little intense.

00:38:26.000 The FBI is calling me.

00:38:26.000 All right.

00:38:27.000 All right.

00:38:28.000 And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, I said, alright, well, send me his name, his number, and I'm going to contact the FBI field office here in El Paso, find out if this is a name that actually is... Well, you called me and I said check their name, and I also said they probably really want to know what you saw.

00:38:42.000 Yeah, I mean, and at the end of the day, that's what they were really interested in.

00:38:45.000 Like you said earlier, FBI doesn't have the jurisdiction to go over there, they don't have...

00:38:49.000 They've got all that red tape that doesn't allow them to go in there, and they were wanting to know why someone like me would go over there.

00:38:55.000 And I said, hey, El Paso's like a second home to me.

00:38:57.000 I have a lot of friends that are like family in that town. 0.68

00:39:00.000 If these guys come over, these jokers, these ISIS, come across these wide open borders, and they start doing terrorist attacks on Fort Bliss, I'm gonna be pissed off.

00:39:08.000 Especially if I didn't go do something and, you know, help bring awareness to this.

00:39:12.000 Yeah, these are the very jihadis you've been fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, you know, and the fact that these guys, you know, it takes me to go over there to go look to see what's going on.

00:39:20.000 You know, I know they've got ways they can get over in there.

00:39:23.000 Judicial Watch is very credible.

00:39:24.000 That's why we went down there.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, so, exactly.

00:39:26.000 The FBI said that.

00:39:27.000 They agreed.

00:39:28.000 Yeah, so I'm talking to the field agent and he's counter-terrorism.

00:39:32.000 He asked not to have his name said or anything like that.

00:39:34.000 But Josh, Josh sat in on the meeting with me and there was another guy as well that didn't really talk much.

00:39:40.000 He just kind of listened in.

00:39:41.000 But I checked his credentials.

00:39:42.000 Everything was legit.

00:39:44.000 And he goes, hey, so what is your interest?

00:39:46.000 Why?

00:39:47.000 Why are you looking into this?

00:39:49.000 And I said, well, how long have you been watching my videos?

00:39:51.000 And he goes, well, I've been watching your videos for a while.

00:39:53.000 You know, he said, I watch your live feed.

00:39:55.000 I watch you while you're in Mexico.

00:39:57.000 We were all watching to see if you would find anything.

00:39:59.000 You know, we were we're very interested in your research and what you were doing.

00:40:03.000 And I said, well, that's the answer to this question.

00:40:05.000 Yeah, I said so.

00:40:08.000 I said the reason I went down there was based off the Judicial Watch report and he goes yeah yeah he's like we we you know we call them very credible sources we anything they write about we definitely look into because it always turns out to be true.

00:40:20.000 Yeah that's what we found.

00:40:21.000 Yeah I mean he said they're 99.9% of the time accurate on everything they write about and he says the reason is they get so many details.

00:40:31.000 On things.

00:40:32.000 You know, they're so detailed in their articles about the specifics of locations and all that.

00:40:37.000 That's when they started looking into Judicial Watch and then saw that these guys are credible when they started checking those sources as well.

00:40:44.000 Well, Judicial Watch almost brought down Clinton and a lot of others.

00:40:46.000 They had a lot of good people in government feed them info.

00:40:49.000 And then Judicial Watch is a bunch of highbrow lawyers.

00:40:51.000 They don't go with it until they've double-checked it.

00:40:54.000 They're the ones that broke the North American Union documents.

00:40:56.000 No.

00:40:58.000 The Saudi connection to 9-11, the stand-down order?

00:41:01.000 That was Judicial Watch, not me when I was getting called the 9-11 truther and all that.

00:41:05.000 I mean, the government did stand down.

00:41:07.000 Judicial Watch got the documents.

00:41:09.000 Doesn't mean the whole government did it.

00:41:10.000 Criminals did that.

00:41:13.000 So, I can't tell you how many hundreds of times Judicial Watch has been accurate.

00:41:17.000 Well, listen, you know, this is what real journalism is, Joe, and we're just trying to draw attention down there, so if there is an ISIS threat down there, it will be exposed. 0.93

00:41:27.000 I mean, he told me that I had bigger balls, I would say, than anybody ever. 0.57

00:41:30.000 He said that they would never go in there. 0.98

00:41:32.000 He said the fact that, he said one of the main reasons they had so many people watching was just the fact that if something went wrong, you know, I could have lost my head, Colombian necktie, cut through here, ripped out the bottom.

00:41:41.000 He said they were literally worried about the safety of me at the time.

00:41:46.000 Sure, politically, if you got hurt, Obama wants the border to look like it's all pretty and happy.

00:41:52.000 And there's no crime and oh, it's so wonderful.

00:41:54.000 Exactly.

00:41:55.000 By you going down there, you spotlight that.

00:41:58.000 Yeah, you know, and Josh Owens at the same time was able to talk to a Border Patrol agent on the other side of the border, on the U.S.

00:42:04.000 side, when I was over in Mexico.

00:42:05.000 And this guy is saying, yeah, you know, at night time, this area right here, the Cristo Rey Mountains, is the most trafficked spot in the entire border.

00:42:13.000 They pick up over 2,000 other than Mexicans a month.

00:42:16.000 On that spot, the spots where we were walking, where we filmed trenches, where you could just, it's like double overhead, you could walk down in these trenches and no one, even in a helicopter, would ever see you.

00:42:25.000 And they do it at night time.

00:42:26.000 So many canyons where it floods in.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:42:28.000 And you said that it's not unusual at night time to hear gunfire, you know, the coyotes shooting if someone doesn't pay.

00:42:34.000 Oh yeah, if the people don't pay the full price or get shaken down, whole families are killed and buried in pits.

00:42:39.000 I mean, that is so evil.

00:42:42.000 But then, Rodriguez makes movies where Don Johnson's one burying the Mexicans.

00:42:48.000 No, it's the cartels.

00:42:50.000 Not Don Johnson in Machete.

00:42:53.000 I wish Machete in that movie was killing the cartels, but notice he's not.

00:42:56.000 Yeah.

00:42:57.000 I mean, you gotta look at it from all kinds of different angles as well, though.

00:42:59.000 I mean, look at all these illegals who come over here. 1.00

00:43:01.000 What do they do?

00:43:02.000 They get a Willy Wonka golden ticket to everything.

00:43:05.000 I wanna break this down with you and tie it into Libya.

00:43:05.000 Stay there.

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00:50:27.000 Now, when I see a news story like this, I begin to connect the dots to what's previously happened.

00:50:34.000 Hillary Clinton, four and a half years ago, said bombarding with U.S. 1.00

00:50:39.000 and NATO air power Libya was the thing to do.

00:50:42.000 Qaddafi was a tyrant, and freedom fighters out of eastern Libya were wonderful people.

00:50:49.000 We pointed out they flew Al-Qaeda flags, they wanted an Islamic State, they were funded by Saudi Arabia, The country is now admittedly a failed state.

00:51:00.000 They've killed over 60,000 people. 0.98

00:51:03.000 Black Africans in their own continent are not welcomed by the racist jihadis. 0.97

00:51:08.000 If you read some of the Quranic passages about black folks, it really makes you wonder just in the interpretation about why so many people think Christianity is racist when there's no text. 0.79

00:51:18.000 But the point is, EU leaders call for emergency talks after 700 migrants drowned off Libya Reuters.

00:51:29.000 As many as 700 people feared dead after a fishing boat packed with migrants capsizes off the Libyan coast overnight when officials say it may be the Mediterranean's worst disaster as thousands flee poverty and war to Europe.

00:51:42.000 Now, normally I'd say, hey Africa, you're having a bunch of kids, you want to get to Italy that has welfare way down the state?

00:51:52.000 Italy's totally bankrupt.

00:51:53.000 The big bankers want to legalize you to come there, to be a political bloc, to be dependent.

00:51:59.000 I'd be against it, but...

00:52:01.000 Western governments went into Libya, the most stable country in Africa, that was stabilizing all of Africa, and Gaddafi worked with the West for eight years, he was letting Western investment come in.

00:52:13.000 They betrayed him, they set him up, they killed him in the street, and now they've turned it over to Islamic State ISIS, who's using it as a base to attack all over the Middle East, and now

00:52:27.000 The media's come out and said, we've got to have a task force, and we've now got to basically let anybody who wants to leave Africa come to Europe, see how they create the crisis, and offer the solution, and then you don't want to say no to these poor Libyans, who the West is wrong, but at the same time, the very globalists that destabilized Libya, are now going to use them to destabilize Italy, and the rest of Europe, which Islamic State has said they will do, with these very migrants, Joe Biggs. 0.61

00:52:55.000 Well, Yemen's also collapsing as well.

00:52:57.000 And all those people are flooding from Yemen over into Djibouti as well.

00:53:01.000 So that's what's going to happen from there.

00:53:02.000 They're going to leave and flee over into Europe as well.

00:53:04.000 A destabilization program.

00:53:06.000 Break it down.

00:53:06.000 How do we counter this?

00:53:09.000 Like I said, we cut the funding off.

00:53:10.000 I mean, that's the thing.

00:53:11.000 We keep funding these people.

00:53:12.000 That's right.

00:53:13.000 We don't care what goes on.

00:53:15.000 Like Rand Paul says, we don't fund any of it.

00:53:17.000 Because the funding always only makes it worse, because special interests want to keep the crisis going.

00:53:22.000 We've funded them so much, they're now able to take over these oil refineries, airfields, all these different places.

00:53:27.000 They're taking over- Shipyards.

00:53:28.000 Just murdering people by the thousands, gruesome beheadings, you know, executions.

00:53:34.000 I mean, this is out of control.

00:53:36.000 And we've allowed them, by funding them, to continue to grow so much that they have gotten beyond, you know, the government's power.

00:53:44.000 Because, you know, the government, the Obama administration, like I've said before in the past, is Dr. Frankenstein.

00:53:49.000 ISIS is the monster they created. 0.80

00:53:50.000 These guys have gotten so big, out of control.

00:53:52.000 Oh yeah, no, no, they're not controlled by the West.

00:53:54.000 They were birthed and funded and suckled.

00:53:57.000 And, I mean, we've got to stop doing these accidental airdrops.

00:54:01.000 I know people in the Air Force.

00:54:02.000 They take their jobs seriously.

00:54:04.000 They don't accidentally miss a target.

00:54:06.000 Well, that's what the President of Iraq said.

00:54:06.000 They hit their target.

00:54:08.000 He said, the West is funding Al-Qaeda.

00:54:10.000 Yeah, they- Because two years ago, the military wouldn't go along with resupplying them, so now it's accidents.

00:54:15.000 Yeah, they train and train to hit their marks, to drop their packages where they're supposed to go, and they keep saying these are accidental drops.

00:54:21.000 I don't believe that whatsoever.

00:54:23.000 These guys purposely do it.

00:54:24.000 Now, the Air Force pilots are probably being told, hey, this is a rebel stronghold, you know, these are the guys who are trying to fight ISIS.

00:54:30.000 This is where you need to drop it, not knowing from that high up.

00:54:32.000 That's how compartmentalization works.

00:54:34.000 They tell these guys they're dropping it off in a good area, and then you see some ISIS propaganda video coming out.

00:54:39.000 And they're opening up US, you know, crates with grenades and, you know, RPGs and all this stuff.

00:54:43.000 I mean, it's out of control.

00:54:45.000 And people are dying because we keep and continue funding them.

00:54:48.000 I agree.

00:54:49.000 And I believe it's exposing compartmentalization.

00:54:52.000 Because the average person in the FBI or the military or a corporation is not bad.

00:54:56.000 It's that the top-down disinformation is what's happening.

00:55:00.000 Yeah.

00:55:02.000 A psychological warfare that they push out to the masses, and then there's a psychological warfare that they use against their own troops.

00:55:10.000 And that's how they get these people to do stuff.

00:55:12.000 That's right.

00:55:12.000 There's disinfo on the public, but also another brand of it internally on the military.

00:55:16.000 Exactly.

00:55:17.000 I mean, when you go through different stages in military training, like ANOC and all this stuff, Advanced Noncommissioned Officer School, and all this different training, they teach you To essentially fool these soldiers into just doing stuff and becoming robots and just listening to what you say and not thinking for themselves.

00:55:35.000 That's what they train people to do.

00:55:36.000 When they get older and they get higher up in ranks, it's easier for the political guys who are like Master Sergeants, Sergeant Majors, all this, to kind of go ahead and start trickling in down to these Staff Sergeants and say, listen to this, this is the truth, just go with it.

00:55:50.000 Tell your guys this is what's going on.

00:55:52.000 And the more you BS, the higher you rise up.

00:55:55.000 And then we're just putting a headline up where Sony won't even block on their platforms, ISIS. 0.83

00:55:59.000 Neither will Facebook, Twitter, YouTube.

00:56:01.000 But we get censored all the time.

00:56:02.000 Yeah, Facebook wants to have a button that's going to tell users whether or not something is fake news or not.

00:56:07.000 But meanwhile, they're going to allow this stuff.

00:56:09.000 That's right.

00:56:10.000 They're going to let users vote down or ban content because they claim it's not true.

00:56:14.000 If I go into Mexico illegally, and I get captured by the Mexican government, what's going to happen?

00:56:19.000 I'm going to be like Andrew Tamorsi.

00:56:20.000 I'm going to be locked up in prison for a long time.

00:56:22.000 What happens when these guys come over to our country? 1.00

00:56:25.000 We let them, we get them bus tickets, we get them to go to school, we give them health care, we give them a free ticket to everything out there.

00:56:32.000 And there's nothing for them to worry about.

00:56:33.000 ISIS can literally just walk across the border and come in and start terrorizing people, and we're more of a threat. 0.96

00:56:38.000 The camera's on us.

00:56:39.000 The target is on us.

00:56:40.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:56:42.000 If they bait and switch after 9-11, use 9-11 to take our freedoms, if they do let ISIS come across and attack, but the borders fill open, won't that backfire and cause a call for the border to be secured?

00:56:56.000 I mean, at that point, if they start doing these lone wolf attacks and all these different cells start popping off, I mean, people aren't even going to be worried about the border at that point in time.

00:57:02.000 Because if something happens in the middle... That's right, they'll just spin it and ignore that.

00:57:06.000 But if something happens in the middle of the country, what happens?

00:57:08.000 All our focus goes away from the north and south border to the middle of the state.

00:57:12.000 And there'll be no discussion on why was the border wide open?

00:57:14.000 Exactly.

00:57:14.000 Yeah.

00:57:15.000 Everybody's going to wonder what happened in Oklahoma, what happened in the middle of the country somewhere.

00:57:19.000 No one's going to be looking at the South and saying, hey, our borders are wide open.

00:57:22.000 They're going to be like, oh my God, this place just got hit.

00:57:24.000 Yeah, there's definitely major forces moving quick.

00:57:26.000 Joe Biggs, great job in Mexico.

00:57:28.000 Great job in El Paso.

00:57:29.000 Thank you so much.

00:57:30.000 Thanks.

00:57:31.000 For your service to the Republic here in America.

00:57:34.000 All right, next hour coming up, I'm going to hit all the other news I've not yet gotten to.

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01:00:04.000 From his Central Texas Command Center deep behind enemy lines the information war continues.

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01:00:21.000 Well, conspiracy theories are running wild tonight about the Army's plan for a multi-state training exercise this summer called Jade Helm 15.

01:00:38.000 While the military says it's just training soldiers for the realities of war, critics say the Army is preparing for modern-day martial law.

01:00:45.000 We really didn't have the violence that we see today.

01:00:49.000 The weaponry is totally different now than it was in the beginning of my career.

01:00:54.000 career.

01:00:55.000 Plus you have a lot of people that are coming out of the military that have the ability and the knowledge to build IEDs and to defeat law enforcement techniques.

01:01:05.000 Can I do something about it?

01:01:09.000 We're training exactly for what?

01:01:21.000 I refuse to recognize you guys.

01:01:23.000 I refuse to recognize you.

01:01:25.000 That was interesting.

01:01:31.000 The nice thing about this piece of equipment is that if somebody is directing fire toward a team that's trying to get in, they can pull right up to a friend.

01:01:41.000 You can take enemy fire and still try to address threat without being scared of getting shot.

01:01:47.000 So I'm thinking that is totally appropriate in Iraq, but what kind of a situation in the U.S.

01:01:52.000 would you see that happening?

01:01:53.000 I mean, we've got a lot of Constitutionalists and a lot of people that stockpile weapons.

01:01:57.000 A lot of ammunition.

01:01:58.000 I mean, we've got a lot of Constitutionalists and a lot of people that stockpile weapons.

01:02:04.000 A lot of ammunition.

01:02:05.000 They have no weapons here locally.

01:02:09.000 So what happens if the PLR take over?

01:02:11.000 A country run by terrorists ain't good. 0.92

01:02:14.000 Bro, America was founded by terrorists or terrorists. 0.99

01:02:18.000 What do you think the f*** Revolutionary War was? 1.00

01:02:21.000 Mystery is determined by the f***ing victim. 0.97

01:02:24.000 How did you even get into the Marines? 0.98

01:02:26.000 Who was the first terrorist organization in the United States?

01:02:33.000 Family Bob.

01:02:33.000 Who?

01:02:34.000 You mean Thomas Jefferson?

01:02:36.000 You mean, uh, George Washington?

01:02:36.000 Oh yeah.

01:02:38.000 Oh yeah.

01:02:39.000 Paul Revere?

01:02:40.000 Yeah.

01:02:40.000 These guys right here, Can we ask you something?

01:02:44.000 Did they try to scare people?

01:02:46.000 They tried to intimidate the British. 0.99

01:02:50.000 Did they use acts of violence?

01:02:52.000 Your founding fathers, my founding fathers, were involved in acts of terrorism against British officials.

01:02:58.000 Jade Helm troops to operate undetected amongst civilian population.

01:03:02.000 And of course, the military people and the vets are not buying any of it. 0.98

01:03:05.000 They're not stupid.

01:03:06.000 You can read about how it's to get the hearts and minds and how to get the public used to working and the local police working with the military. 0.86

01:03:12.000 I mean, everybody who's been in the military knows about the secret EOD program going on for 18 years.

01:03:18.000 Their whole ordinance disposal, you know, quote, the army is going to show up to defuse a bomb.

01:03:23.000 But then you get the internal agreements.

01:03:25.000 It's for everything from warrant service to checkpoints with military personnel in nondescript blue jumpsuits.

01:03:33.000 Just like the Army Ranger called in and said they were wearing EPA blue jumpsuits.

01:03:38.000 It's always blue or tan jumpsuits.

01:03:41.000 And it might say EPA.

01:03:43.000 It might say police.

01:03:45.000 It might say park serfs.

01:03:48.000 Training with the police, training with locals, in plain clothes, quote, doing suspicious activities, is to train the police to work with the military in covert operations, and to condition the military to accept it, and to condition the public to accept it, and then when we cover it and talk about it, they practice the PSYOP in real time, putting out this information.

01:04:06.000 I can see the script from Army Times.

01:04:09.000 To Military.com, to Stars and Stripes, to Bloomberg, to Daily Beast, to Vice, to the Houston Chronicle, and no exaggeration today.

01:04:19.000 You go search Jade Helm.

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01:04:29.000 Jones, who's warned of an imminent takeover for decades, keeps claiming it's gonna happen, but of course it never does.

01:04:36.000 No, it never does!

01:04:38.000 Checkpoints, TSA, open spying, highway dividers being put up nationwide, open manuals that the number one enemies, veterans and gun owners and Christians, I mean, come on! 0.89

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01:06:25.000 A lot of people have heard about the Franklin cover-up.

01:06:29.000 It was Senator DeCamp that wrote a book, I don't know, almost 20 years ago, claiming that Boys Town, and even on my show, talked about Penn State being a pedophile front, at least part of it.

01:06:42.000 And all that came out in the news later.

01:06:45.000 Well, we've got a author who's written a book on the subject and has some pretty amazing contacts.

01:06:52.000 Confessions of a DC Madam, The Politics of Sex, Lies, and Blackmail.

01:06:57.000 Henry W. Vinson with Nick Bryant.

01:07:02.000 Joining us, coming up today, and I don't really know where to start with this in the next segment because it's such a huge, huge subject and some of the stuff one of these guys has been involved in is, well, over the top.

01:07:18.000 So I'm just going to let them speak for themselves, I think.

01:07:21.000 I've researched this, I've looked into it quite a bit.

01:07:25.000 I knew the D.C.

01:07:25.000 madam, interviewed her before she died, talked to her a few times off air.

01:07:29.000 This is a scary book.

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01:07:33.000 We should be, but we're not yet.

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01:07:38.000 It's coming up through investigative journalism in the next few segments.

01:07:45.000 That said, I mentioned this earlier, but I want to hit it right now because it's a big deal.

01:07:50.000 Congress is attempting to reauthorize key Patriot Act provisions, which is the opposite of the Patriot, by sneaking it into USA Freedom Act.

01:07:58.000 Now remember, all the NSA spying, all the Patriot Act, didn't get rid of Al Qaeda, it's now metamorphosized into ISIS and is 20 times bigger.

01:08:08.000 And we're being told, give all our rights up, prepare for imminent Al-Qaeda attacks, ISIS attacks.

01:08:13.000 So, it is all a giant fraud.

01:08:16.000 Giving up your liberty does not give you security.

01:08:18.000 We're always told, there's a trade-off, an equation.

01:08:21.000 You give up liberty, you're safer.

01:08:23.000 No, you have more liberty, you're safer historically.

01:08:28.000 But we all play along the narrative.

01:08:30.000 It's like US propaganda, you know, claims Russia started the war in Ukraine.

01:08:35.000 It's not US propaganda.

01:08:37.000 It's mega global banks that have already conquered us that are using American muscle and our credit line to launch wars all over the world, which we don't even get the spoils of.

01:08:49.000 If I was a sociopath, I want to say this right now. 0.95

01:08:54.000 If I was a sociopath or one worse, A sadistic psychopath. 0.96

01:09:02.000 I would be against starting a war with Russia and the New World Order. 0.74

01:09:05.000 Because it's not for me, it's not for my family, it doesn't get me ahead.

01:09:11.000 Now I happen to be a person that's moral and cares.

01:09:14.000 And I guess sociopaths and psychopaths can't seem to fight against evil, even when it's in their own interest.

01:09:19.000 That's one of the mysteries of the universe. 0.72

01:09:21.000 But I guess they can't go against their father, the devil.

01:09:24.000 All I know is, for my own self-preservation, fighting this is the right course.

01:09:33.000 It's a no-brainer.

01:09:36.000 I want a high standard of law.

01:09:38.000 I want a high standard of human rights.

01:09:40.000 I want a high standard of due process.

01:09:42.000 I want a high standard of freedom.

01:09:44.000 Because I want to enjoy it.

01:09:46.000 And I want my kids to enjoy it.

01:09:48.000 And I want the security and the protection that comes with being a free state, where everybody wants to come here.

01:09:55.000 But you don't get handouts.

01:09:58.000 Like Switzerland.

01:09:59.000 You come to the country where people want to work and want to share ideas.

01:10:03.000 We've become the opposite of that in many ways.

01:10:05.000 But still, there is a kernel of greatness to America.

01:10:09.000 We were exceptional. 0.83

01:10:11.000 But we're not exceptional because we have transgender bathrooms. 0.91

01:10:15.000 Hey, great, transgender bathrooms. 1.00

01:10:16.000 Point is, that shouldn't be our mission.

01:10:19.000 Those are all distractionary infighting tools by social engineers to get us fighting with each other.

01:10:25.000 And I'm here to try to get people to see the rabbit trick.

01:10:28.000 How the scam works, how it operates.

01:10:32.000 So Congress is attempting to reauthorize key Patriot Act provisions for NSA warrantless spying, sneak and peek, break in your house, NDAA, disappear you.

01:10:44.000 I mean, you talk about give up liberty, you get security.

01:10:47.000 No, you don't.

01:10:49.000 Give up liberty, it's like giving up atmosphere or gravity.

01:10:53.000 Your muscles atrophy and fall apart.

01:10:56.000 It is the animating contest of liberty that makes the man that makes the woman. 0.95

01:11:03.000 Making it part of something that ostensibly appears to be reigning in surveillance powers.

01:11:09.000 That's right, the USA Freedom Act Which is bipartisanly supported, actually brings the Patriot Act back in.

01:11:16.000 N.S.A.

01:11:20.000 and F.B.I.

01:11:20.000 fight to retain spy powers.

01:11:22.000 A surveillance law nears expiration.

01:11:25.000 Simply amazing that that is going on, and that is in mainstream news.

01:11:34.000 which That is out of the London Guardian.

01:11:39.000 So they get it right.

01:11:40.000 Not that the Guardian is perfect, but they actually break it down.

01:11:44.000 Meanwhile, RFID tracking system to replace license plate, license plates are A once sensible administrative tool today undercuts privacy.

01:11:55.000 That's out of the Washington Examiner.

01:11:57.000 Yes, they're already barcodes, they're already RFID, because license plate reading cameras already scan it and track it, but now with RFID you won't be able to escape it.

01:12:06.000 They'll track everywhere you go, everything you do, so the system can game what you're doing and do things like not fix roads that aren't toll roads to force you onto toll roads.

01:12:16.000 You see, so many good people say, Alex, I have nothing to hide, I don't care if I'm being spied on.

01:12:26.000 Then put, when you're going on a trip on Facebook, and put your alarm code on Facebook or Twitter, and put where you live and where your jewelry is, you're gonna get robbed.

01:12:37.000 You lock your doors, you lower your blinds, because it's a simple, basic security measure.

01:12:43.000 And it's a simple, privacy-instinctive measure.

01:12:47.000 That if you went back 3,000 years ago, and what is Germania today?

01:12:52.000 Or 3,000 years ago, what is Central Africa today?

01:12:55.000 At the gates to a village, they would post guards at night.

01:13:01.000 And do you know why they did that, or why they would close the gate at night, show wild elephants didn't come in, or tigers, or lions, depending on what part of the world you lived in, tigers, India, lions, Africa, or a cave bear in Germany.

01:13:14.000 What's Germany today?

01:13:15.000 I mean, you know, I lock my door, not because I'm a coward, but because you're going to have to knock it down to get in.

01:13:22.000 And then I'm going to be waiting for you.

01:13:24.000 And I got teeth and claws.

01:13:27.000 And so the idea that we should have everything unencrypted and open to the government.

01:13:31.000 Oh, and then all the hackers and criminals as well?

01:13:34.000 And the criminals in government that are constantly selling data to foreign governments and corporations?

01:13:39.000 I mean, is this a joke?

01:13:42.000 Did you know since the NSA started ubiquitous spying in the last few decades that no one at the NSA can check and see in the database who accessed the database?

01:13:51.000 It's designed for internal groups to engage in fraud and the takedown of the country, and that indeed has happened!

01:13:59.000 The opposite of national security, again!

01:14:03.000 Five trillion dollars later, that's conservative, how much just some of these wars have cost.

01:14:08.000 Five, in fact that's a low number.

01:14:11.000 The Iraq war was three trillion, Afghanistan a trillion and a half domestic.

01:14:16.000 That's six trillion.

01:14:17.000 Six trillion dollars later, are you safer now?

01:14:21.000 The answer is no.

01:14:22.000 They say ISIS is everywhere, give up your rights, oh my gosh they're going to attack any minute.

01:14:27.000 Why would government and other corporate interests ever stop something like Islamic State or Al-Qaeda if that group being out there allowed them to basically take freedom domestically here? 0.85

01:14:40.000 Think about that.

01:14:42.000 Think about how long all of this has been going on.

01:14:45.000 The big threat is the big government because it becomes the dashboard, the control panel, for special interests that can move those levers to get in there and control our lives.

01:14:57.000 And then you wonder how the special interests control Congress.

01:15:03.000 The way it starts when you're first a senator or a member of the House is the most beautiful woman you've ever seen in your life start hitting on you at the gym, or your favorite barbecue place, or at church. 1.00

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01:15:20.000 Then they say, Senator, Congressman, We're going to release this in the news, your girlfriends and all the rest of it if you don't play ball.

01:15:29.000 Now that's the good guys.

01:15:32.000 The bad guys.

01:15:34.000 Get in the upper level clubs because they're willing to do stuff to kids.

01:15:38.000 And it's come out in the news that they get involved with the kids, not because they're even into it, but because that's like the gangster ritual or initiation.

01:15:46.000 You've heard about different black gangs, white gangs, Hispanic gangs, they're all the same. 0.99

01:15:50.000 You gotta kill an old lady, you gotta kill somebody, you gotta rob a liquor store and shoot the clerk. 1.00

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01:20:07.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

01:20:15.000 Waging war on corruption.

01:20:32.000 It's Alex Jones.

01:20:39.000 I'm not going to go over their bios for you, but I'm aware of the work of both individuals.

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01:20:59.000 Confessions of a D.C.

01:21:00.000 madam. 0.98

01:21:00.000 The politics of sex, lies and blackmail. 0.98

01:21:03.000 Henry W. Vinson with Nick Bryan.

01:21:07.000 And now for the rest of the hour, I really want to try to give these guys the floor because if I start asking questions, we're going to go down some rabbit trails.

01:21:14.000 Henry Vinson was a male madam over a major gay escort operation that's on record in D.C.

01:21:22.000 And from what I've seen, that's more popular in D.C.

01:21:25.000 from the news we've followed than the other way.

01:21:29.000 And then, of course, Nick Bryan has written on the Franklin cover-up and other major issues that we're well-versed on here.

01:21:36.000 The blog is blog.comconfessionsofadcmadam.com.

01:21:40.000 The book is Confessions of a D.C.

01:21:41.000 Madam. 0.98

01:21:42.000 If you want to know why Washington is so controlled and why it's so corrupt, it's blackmail.

01:21:48.000 And you can't even get into the club unless they think you're blackmailable.

01:21:53.000 And this gets into, in the case of the Franklin cover-up, underage, you name it.

01:21:58.000 I interviewed Debra Jean Palfrey before she died.

01:22:02.000 The famous D.C. 0.64

01:22:05.000 madam, they obviously murdered her. 0.90

01:22:09.000 Death note, suicide note, wasn't even in her handwriting.

01:22:12.000 I had her condo manager that she owned, friends send me her lease, her handwriting.

01:22:18.000 I had the Florida State Police calling me about it.

01:22:21.000 I mean, this was a big deal that happened.

01:22:22.000 I was on Fox News, CNN, you name it.

01:22:25.000 My point is, we've studied this.

01:22:26.000 And this is how they're controlling people.

01:22:30.000 So, who should start first here?

01:22:33.000 Henry Vinson to give us the overview as a former gay madam, or Nick Bryant to give us some of the larger picture.

01:22:42.000 Where should we start, gentlemen?

01:22:44.000 Let Henry start with the overview.

01:22:46.000 Yeah, Henry, for the rest of the six, seven, eight minutes of this segment, break down why this is important and what you cover in the book and why folks should investigate it.

01:22:56.000 Well, I ran the largest gay escort service that's ever been exposed in Washington, D.C., and my ultimate downfall was precipitated by the fact that I provided escorts to a CIA asset named Craig Smith, who used my escorts to blackmail politicians and other power brokers.

01:23:14.000 I ultimately became the fall guy for a sprawling conspiracy whose cover-up was engineered at the pinnacle of the Bush 1 administration.

01:23:22.000 And I haven't told my story, and this is the first time I've told it, but I've undergone a 25-year character assassination by the media.

01:23:31.000 And I believe the American political system has become a wayward aberration of the ideas it was built upon.

01:23:38.000 And I believe that blackmail has played an integral role in hijacking our political system.

01:23:44.000 And that's my reasons for writing the book, and that's basically what it's about.

01:23:49.000 So it's WMD.

01:23:50.000 It's Mutually Assured Destruction.

01:23:52.000 in the American political process.

01:23:54.000 But blackmailers and their blackmail targets would never divulge such misconduct for the obvious reasons.

01:24:00.000 Blackmailers would be subjected to criminal prosecution and their blackmail targets would be subjected to either persecution or prosecution for the conduct that led them to be blackmailed in the first place.

01:24:12.000 So it's WMD.

01:24:13.000 It's mutually assured destruction.

01:24:15.000 MAD.

01:24:17.000 That's right.

01:24:18.000 Political blackmail is almost never made public, and if it does become public, it's usually years after the fact.

01:24:25.000 Just look at J. Edgar Hoover, for example.

01:24:30.000 Please break it down.

01:24:30.000 Amazing.

01:24:33.000 And I think that Larry Craig is an example of a congressman who was possibly compromised.

01:24:38.000 Craig was in D.C.

01:24:40.000 for nearly 30 years as a U.S.

01:24:42.000 representative and a senator.

01:24:44.000 And given Craig's status as a conservative Republican, if word of his shadow life leaked out, it would result in political suicide and public disgrace.

01:24:53.000 But his runaway libido compelled him to take mind-boggling risks.

01:24:57.000 And I find it impossible to believe that Craig's homosexual exploits were unnoticed by the blackmail ring that I provided with escorts. 0.73

01:25:05.000 Because I provided Craig with escorts and the ring was well aware of all my patrons.

01:25:11.000 And I'm also of the belief that the foremost explanation that can be offered concerning Craig's brazen exploits with regards to his homosexuality is that he was compromised and was mindful that his brazen exploits would be covered up.

01:25:26.000 I think that it's much more prevalent, black male, than what many people believe.

01:25:31.000 Let me ask you this question.

01:25:33.000 Just because it's interesting to understand the mindset. 0.90

01:25:38.000 Do Republicans like more gay escorts, or female escorts, or is it Democrats?

01:25:43.000 Because I've always been told, for whatever reason, Republicans are more into men than the Democrats, or is that not true? 0.95

01:25:53.000 Well, I operated an escort service during the Bush one and the Reagan administration, so they certainly did, they were a lot of my clients, so I think that the Republicans do use a lot of gay escorts.

01:26:10.000 Well, I remember the Washington Times doing a cover page series of articles about the underage cowboy ring busted at the Bush Senior White House and how that almost brought down the administration.

01:26:23.000 I wonder how you'd get an ultra right-wing publication like the Washington Times ready to report on something like that.

01:26:30.000 Well, the media covered this up quite a bit.

01:26:37.000 And that's a rather complex answer as to why that happened, and I think that it has to do with the CIA infiltrating the media, because 90% of the media is controlled by five major corporations.

01:26:53.000 And if you're a new listener, we'll put it back on screen.

01:26:55.000 We found the Washington Times headline, actual scan.

01:26:58.000 Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush, and then it's got copies of the receipts.

01:27:05.000 What would be going on at the White House with underage cowboys being delivered there? 0.52

01:27:10.000 Well, Craig Spence was a very big lobbyist.

01:27:14.000 He was a pretty powerful person.

01:27:17.000 He was a real mover and shaker.

01:27:20.000 And he had my Escorts actually have tours of the White House.

01:27:25.000 He was so powerful that he could arrange midnight tours of the White House for escorts that I employed.

01:27:32.000 So you were involved with that?

01:27:35.000 Yes, I was.

01:27:36.000 Craig Spence was my biggest client.

01:27:39.000 Spent about $20,000 a month.

01:27:41.000 He had these beautiful parties at his house that would look like a who's who of Washington, D.C.

01:27:48.000 There would be Power brokers, lawmakers, government officials, media people.

01:27:55.000 It would truly look like a who's who of Washington.

01:27:58.000 And of course his house was set up for blackmail.

01:28:02.000 There were two-way mirrors.

01:28:03.000 There was audio tapes, videotapes.

01:28:07.000 So that's how Craig was able to have such influence and was such a successful lobbyist.

01:28:13.000 And getting to the Central Intelligence Agency connection there, can you speak to that?

01:28:21.000 Sure, Craig was a CIA asset, and one of the clients, as I name in my book, was William Casey, and he was the director of the CIA.

01:28:35.000 He was a very good friend of Craig Spence, and he would be at these parties, so it was a pretty interesting place.

01:28:45.000 Well, again, I don't just go off your book.

01:28:47.000 I've got mainstream news articles about it listing your name.

01:28:51.000 And so we know that at least much of what you're saying is true.

01:28:55.000 We know this is going on, but I want to get from you when we come back.

01:28:59.000 Folks should get the book, Confessions of a D.C.

01:29:00.000 Madam. 0.98

01:29:01.000 You have a lot of courage to put it out with Nick Bryan.

01:29:03.000 I want to get from you how widespread is it?

01:29:05.000 We'll be right back.

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01:33:33.000 Anytime Congress starts getting out of line, the Globalists will just burn a few House or Senate members. 0.99

01:33:41.000 And then everybody basically runs to the hills and doesn't argue with their marching orders.

01:33:46.000 Back in 1989, Tom Brokaw reported on the scandal that Henry W. Vinson, our guest, was part of.

01:33:54.000 Here is that report.

01:33:57.000 And if Washington doesn't have enough to talk about these days, the Washington Times reported today that unidentified White House aides in the Carter, Reagan, and Bush administrations now are being investigated for using the services of a callboy ring.

01:34:10.000 The paper reports that two of the male prostitutes were given a late-night tour of the White House last year.

01:34:14.000 The White House press secretary, Marlon Fitzwater, said he knew nothing of this investigation.

01:34:19.000 NBC's Lisa Myers reports her sources in the U.S.

01:34:22.000 Attorney's Office say the investigation is not focusing on prostitution, but on fraud involving the use of credit cards to pay the callboy services.

01:34:32.000 There you go!

01:34:33.000 Let's go back to Henry W. Vinson and his co-author Nick Bryan.

01:34:37.000 Henry W. Vinson is a known, admitted, major gay madame, who was operating then, and who the CIA basically used to set people up with, I guess unbeknownst to him. 0.75

01:34:47.000 And that's the rest of the story of how they use this NSA-type grid to totally control everybody.

01:34:53.000 And then manipulate our morals as a way to bring in a total tyranny.

01:34:57.000 Henry W. Benson, I mean, hit the key points here because you've already covered some bombshell info, but I don't want to encumber you from really telling the public the meat of what you want to get at.

01:35:06.000 Well, I just want to talk about blackmail.

01:35:11.000 What an integral role that blackmail plays in the American political process.

01:35:16.000 And it usually doesn't come out until years after the fact.

01:35:20.000 And when I was in the escort business, I had clients such as William Casey, Charles Dutcher, Paul Ballack was the Labor Secretary, Elizabeth Dole's political personnel liaison, Larry Craig.

01:35:34.000 So I think that's circular.

01:35:36.000 I think it was going on before I got there, and I think it's still going on.

01:35:41.000 Well sure, and again people say I don't want to hear about what people do sexually.

01:35:45.000 The issue is that it's being used to blackmail people and that's how special interests are in control today.

01:35:52.000 From what you know, are things better today or worse?

01:35:58.000 I think it's just a constant.

01:36:00.000 Kingdoms, empires, syndicates and scrupulous groups have all deployed blackmail since time immemorial.

01:36:07.000 And blackmail has played an integral role in the political process For hundreds of years.

01:36:13.000 So, Blackmail was going on before Henry ran his escort service.

01:36:16.000 It was going on while Henry was running his escort service, and it's going on well after Henry left the escort business.

01:36:23.000 So, and it's going on today.

01:36:25.000 There's no doubt about that.

01:36:29.000 Is there any way to stop this?

01:36:32.000 Is there any way to reverse this?

01:36:33.000 Because if people can be blackmailed, or in the case of the IRS, just intimidated into going along with things, special interests will be able to basically create a total tyranny.

01:36:44.000 Well, the problem with that is people have to be edified.

01:36:48.000 Blackmailing of our politicians is a disease that's within our society.

01:36:53.000 It's like a cancer that's eating away at our society.

01:36:56.000 And the only way that you can get rid of a disease is by diagnosing it.

01:37:00.000 And Americans just are not aware that their political system is being co-opted by blackmail.

01:37:07.000 They're not aware of it because the media doesn't report on it.

01:37:09.000 And a number of people that use Henry's Escort Service were high flyers in the media.

01:37:16.000 And I've written in this area for a number of years, and definitely the people that are The highest targets for blackmail are politicians and also people in the media.

01:37:28.000 Because you need a compromised media to cover up for the malfeasance that's going on in the government.

01:37:36.000 If we had a media that told the truth, then Americans would just hit the streets in droves.

01:37:44.000 And things would have changed at that point.

01:37:46.000 Henry Vinson, did you ever know the D.C.

01:37:49.000 Madam, or what did you think of her case? 0.96

01:37:55.000 I'm sorry, I didn't hear that.

01:37:56.000 Henry, did you know the D.C.

01:37:58.000 Madam, or what's your take on her case? 1.00

01:38:01.000 Oh, I didn't know her, but I am familiar with her because she operated years after the fact. 0.60

01:38:07.000 We both ran escort services in Washington, D.C., and both of us were dubbed the D.C.

01:38:13.000 Madam. 0.98

01:38:14.000 The federal government subjected both Ms. 0.99

01:38:16.000 Palfrey and me to a crucible that was designed to ensure our silence or ultimately crush it.

01:38:22.000 Palfrey was merely running an escort service when the Justice Department smacked her with a 14-count RICO indictment, and I was walloped with a 43-count RICO indictment.

01:38:22.000 Ms.

01:38:33.000 So I was potentially looking at 295 years behind bars.

01:38:38.000 Palfrey became overwhelmed by the Justice Department's crucible and she was unwilling or unable to cope with the government policing her of all of her money and status and depositing her in federal prison.

01:38:38.000 And I think Ms.

01:38:50.000 So I think the government is very effective at silencing people when they are out to do so.

01:38:58.000 Sorry, go ahead Nick Bryant.

01:39:06.000 Uh, they're very good at silencing people in the know.

01:39:08.000 Uh, Debra Jean Palfrey, I think that Henry was much more aware of the blackmail that was going on than Debra Jean Palfrey, because the Department of Justice came after her with a 14-count RICO indictment, whereas they came after Henry with a 43-count RICO indictment.

01:39:24.000 He was looking at 295 years in prison.

01:39:27.000 And the government said to him, if you keep your mouth shut, we'll give you five years, but if you talk, we will put you away for the rest of your life.

01:39:35.000 So, I think Henry's information was probably far more damaging than the information that Deborah Jane Palfrey had.

01:39:42.000 And conspiracy silence that...

01:39:46.000 documentary that's been suppressed but i'm sure that you've seen it sure i was the first person to be sent in about 18 years ago when it didn't air on discovery channel i aired on local access television so i'm fully aware of it why don't you fill in as an investigative reporter nick bryant he's written books on this subject the the level below or i guess you could say above even nastier In fact, many times more nastier.

01:40:09.000 Because I personally am for the decriminalization of prostitution.

01:40:12.000 Not because I even endorse it, but because I'm a libertarian.

01:40:15.000 I know it only creates corruption.

01:40:16.000 The pimps want to keep it illegal.

01:40:18.000 You know, sunlight is what disinfects things.

01:40:21.000 But when it gets into the underage people and even children, talk about that.

01:40:28.000 Well, Craig Spence, in addition, he spent $20,000 a month on escorts from Henry's Escort Service, but he also employed female escorts, but he also provided children too, and I've written a book about that.

01:40:43.000 And Craig Spence provided DC power brokers with whatever they wanted, if they wanted young men in the in their 20s or young women in their 20s, they'd be provided with young men or young women.

01:40:53.000 But if they wanted young children and they'd be provided with that, they'd also be provided with drugs.

01:40:58.000 It's kind of, when you read Henry's book, you'll see that the art of blackmail is really down to a science.

01:41:08.000 Spence would have parties and there'd be power brokers at his party.

01:41:12.000 Henry talked about the power broker cocktail parties earlier.

01:41:16.000 Where the people in the administration would be at these parties.

01:41:19.000 People in Congress would be at these parties.

01:41:21.000 Ted Koppel, William Safire, the high flyers in the media would be at these parties.

01:41:26.000 And it would start out as like straight cocktail parties.

01:41:29.000 And people would be getting lubricated on alcohol.

01:41:31.000 And maybe at around 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, somebody would maybe break out some cocaine or something sexually inappropriate might happen.

01:41:39.000 And at that point, people that were freaked out by it would leave, and those who wanted to stick around, the serious customers, they'd be compromised.

01:41:46.000 They'd be given whatever they wanted, and then they'd be compromised.

01:41:49.000 And that's how this system works, is that it's essentially a honey trap.

01:41:56.000 And Henry was compromised firsthand.

01:42:00.000 He bought.

01:42:02.000 Craig Spence was asking Henry about his escort service and he ultimately motioned Henry into a closet which had a trap door, a secret door behind the closet.

01:42:15.000 And there was a bunch of monitors in this secret room and Craig Spence hit a couple of buttons and Henry saw himself talking about his escort service.

01:42:25.000 So anybody that was even talking about illicit things in Craig Spence's home, like Henry, was susceptible to being blackmailed.

01:42:34.000 Now, that's the CIA with stuff 25, 30 years ago.

01:42:38.000 Imagine with the eye of God, as they call it, these systems that can dial into all your smartphones, all your computers, all your appliances, crack what you're doing, or plant things in the digital record, what they're doing with this.

01:42:52.000 This is just unbelievable, and it's so criminal, it's so antithetical to a free society.

01:43:02.000 And with the election season coming up, remember when they bring up all these private scandals, they're total diversions from the policies.

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01:47:23.000 Broke my leg in the Santa Fe.

01:47:28.000 Lost my wife and a girlfriend.

01:47:33.000 In defense of human liberty, Alex Jones.

01:47:40.000 We're trying to investigate and understand why our country is degenerating so quickly.

01:47:45.000 We have Henry W. Vinson and co-author Nick Bryan on with his Confessions of a D.C.

01:47:50.000 Madam. 0.98

01:47:52.000 Gentlemen, where is the best place for folks to get the book, to really dig into this and understand it?

01:47:56.000 It's very well documented, full of photos, graphics, news articles, you name it.

01:48:04.000 Well, you can go to my website, henryvinson.com, or amazon.com, or Barnes & Noble.

01:48:11.000 Alright, let me run through some of these questions that I want to get to here.

01:48:16.000 You were initially glad to have Greta Van Cistern as your defense attorney, but not for long.

01:48:21.000 What changed her tactics with your case?

01:48:24.000 I mean, there's a lot of big players involved in this, and boy, look how she got rewarded. 0.99

01:48:29.000 I was very disappointed with the way Greta Van Susteren represented me because the government accomplishes two objectives when she was my attorney, my silence and imprisonment. 0.99

01:48:40.000 And at the onset of my case, she filed an 11-page motion to mandate the release of my clientele list.

01:48:46.000 that the government had previously seized from me.

01:48:49.000 And Greta argued that the names of my patrons should be released because if the government's assertion was accurate and my escort service was an actuality of prostitutionary, my clients aided and abetted a criminal enterprise.

01:49:02.000 She said she felt that forcing the government to disclose my clientele list would have baited Sellers' prosecution of me.

01:49:09.000 But the U.S. Attorney for D.C. contested Greta's motion and the government used a rather disingenuous argument They were worried about embarrassing the client.

01:49:20.000 So, shortly after the U.S.

01:49:22.000 attorney and the judge ruled that the clientele list could not be disclosed, Greta started to change her tune and she was urging me to take a plea agreement, which was five years in prison.

01:49:37.000 Ultimately, I did enter into a plea agreement with the government.

01:49:41.000 And I spent days being debriefed by the government officials.

01:49:44.000 I told them everything I knew, everything I'd witnessed, which was very incriminating.

01:49:48.000 And Greta, unbelievably, didn't attend any of the debriefings where I was incriminating myself.

01:49:55.000 Wow.

01:49:55.000 You've kept your story quiet for so long.

01:49:57.000 Why are you now breaking your silence?

01:50:00.000 Well, after all these years, I've undergone a 25-year character assassination by the media, and I just wanted to tell my side of the story.

01:50:08.000 It's never been told.

01:50:09.000 But second, I do believe the American political system has become a wayward aberration of the ideas it was built upon, and I believe that blackmail plays a much more integral role in hijacking our political system than what most people know.

01:50:23.000 Sure.

01:50:25.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:50:26.000 Americans aren't aware because the media does not report on it.

01:50:29.000 Sure, do you think your sexual orientation played a role in how zealously they went after you? 0.78

01:50:34.000 I mean, you can go to Las Vegas and there's prostitute ads on TV. 1.00

01:50:37.000 I mean, it's just so hypocritical that they selectively target certain groups. 0.96

01:50:43.000 Well, I do. 0.92

01:50:44.000 I think that my sexual orientation, because I ran a gay escort service during the Reagan and Bush administration, and many of the politicians and power brokers that I provided with escorts were closeted Republicans.

01:50:56.000 And it would have been a death knell to their careers if it came out that they were soliciting... Sure, so they wanted to shut you up even though you hadn't spoken out, even though it was the CIA that was releasing all this stuff, you were getting the blame.

01:51:08.000 Let me expand on that.

01:51:11.000 What percentage, I know it's a guesstimation, dead reckoning, what percentage of Congress would you say is bisexual or gay?

01:51:21.000 Well, we've had a lot of clients, I would venture 30-40% of them, we've had a lot of clients.

01:51:30.000 Yeah, that's the number I've gotten from a lot of other bigwigs, about 30-40%.

01:51:34.000 Finally, and then you can have the floor here at the end with you and your guest, your co-author. 0.80

01:51:41.000 In running a gay escort service, you were exposed to many incredible scenes, heavy drug use, orgies, pedophilic-type fantasies, just to name a few. 0.80

01:51:48.000 What was some of the more sinister things you were exposed to during your time as a madam? 0.92

01:51:54.000 I think the most disturbing and sinister thing I was exposed to was the fact that politicians and power brokers were provided with children, if they had those inclinations.

01:52:03.000 I was consistently pressured by DC power brokers to provide child prostitutes to their power broker cronies.

01:52:09.000 But I refuse to have anything to do with child prostitution.

01:52:13.000 And the federal government was aware of the facts because I told my government debriefers about an interstate pedophile network that was providing DC politicians and powerbrokers with children.

01:52:23.000 Sure, the finders got exposed and the government was involved in that and they covered it up.

01:52:28.000 Look at... This network was Larry King's breakthrough.

01:52:32.000 Absolutely.

01:52:32.000 I mean, that's a separate network.

01:52:35.000 Absolutely.

01:52:35.000 We're going to get into that.

01:52:36.000 I want you to spend a few minutes on that.

01:52:37.000 We'll both have you back to expand from this area in D.C.

01:52:41.000 out to the really nasty underbelly of this.

01:52:44.000 But what about the famous gay congressman, Barney Frank, who didn't get in trouble, but it turned out his boyfriend was running an underage, cowboy network, you know, 14-year-olds and stuff out of his house? 0.60

01:52:55.000 Three-story Georgetown deal.

01:52:57.000 That was on the news back in the 80s and 90s as well.

01:53:01.000 Henry employed Barney Frank's lover.

01:53:04.000 He worked for Henry, Frank Joby.

01:53:08.000 That's right, Frank Joby was the one on those newscasts I've seen from the archives and it's just crazy.

01:53:15.000 Remember a few years ago before Frank retired, Barney Frank, he said, look, mess with me, I'm outing you all.

01:53:21.000 And remember how quick they backed off on the corruption investigation?

01:53:26.000 And he was also one of the principal cheerleaders for the bailout.

01:53:30.000 Which is kind of interesting.

01:53:32.000 He went against his constituency and really was a big cheerleader for the bailout.

01:53:37.000 So I think Barney probably had some skeletons in his closet also.

01:53:41.000 Other than just his homosexuality. 0.84

01:53:44.000 Good God.

01:53:46.000 And that's investigative reporter Nick Bryant.

01:53:49.000 Nick, I want to give you both about two or three minutes here at the end.

01:53:51.000 We'll have you back soon on the nightly news, you know, uninterrupted to really break this down and we can then, you know, document everything for the TV audience and actually show people news articles.

01:54:00.000 But spend a few minutes on where the rabbit hole goes.

01:54:03.000 Nick Bryant.

01:54:05.000 Well, the rabbit hole goes all the way up to the pinnacle of the Bush administration.

01:54:11.000 And it's kind of interesting.

01:54:12.000 What brought Henry down was he was providing escorts to Donald Gregg.

01:54:17.000 And your audience might not know who Donald Gregg was.

01:54:20.000 He was George H.W.

01:54:23.000 Bush's national security advisor when Bush was the vice president. 0.83

01:54:27.000 And Donald Gregg was getting gay escorts from Henry on his government-issued MasterCard. 0.87

01:54:33.000 And a GAO employee called Henry because they were running these credit cards through a funeral service, a funeral merchant account.

01:54:43.000 So a GAO employee called Henry up and asked him why Donald Gregg was purchasing so many funeral accessories from him.

01:54:51.000 And so Henry said that, told the GAO employee, government accounting office employee, that that was kind of a personal matter with Donald Gregg and that she should talk to Donald Gregg about it.

01:55:03.000 And then Henry called Craig Spence and said, the G.E.O.

01:55:07.000 is calling me about Donald Gregg racking up all these funeral accessories on his government-issued credit card.

01:55:13.000 And Spence invited Henry to his place, and there, waiting for Henry, was Craig Spence and a member of George H.W.

01:55:22.000 Bush's cabinet.

01:55:24.000 And they told Henry that they wanted him to cover for Donald Gregg, and he refused to cover for Donald Gregg, who ultimately became the ambassador to South Korea when Bush ascended to the presidency.

01:55:37.000 And Henry was given a threat by a cabinet member, who was obviously part of this network.

01:55:42.000 And then shortly thereafter, the Secret Service raided Henry, and that's when all his problems started.

01:55:48.000 Well, all I know is that Congress is compromised.

01:55:52.000 They're doing things that are against the country, against themselves, against common sense.

01:55:57.000 And it is just a giant disaster, a giant mess.

01:56:02.000 How do we fix this?

01:56:04.000 How do we turn this around, Henry W. Vinson?

01:56:08.000 Well, I think we turn it around by exposing it.

01:56:13.000 But 90% of the media is controlled by five major corporations, so the media does not publish a lot of these things.

01:56:20.000 And of course, the federal government has a greater dexterity to cover up sex scandals in Washington, D.C.

01:56:26.000 because the federal government is the U.S.

01:56:28.000 attorney for D.C.

01:56:29.000 who prosecutes all D.C.

01:56:31.000 crimes, is appointed by the president, the FBI and Secret Service are also minions of the executive branch, and Congress controls the budget of D.C.' 's Metropolitan Police Department.

01:56:42.000 So, D.C.

01:56:43.000 is, everything that happens in D.C.

01:56:45.000 is very usually covered up.

01:56:48.000 Kind of like Vegas.

01:56:49.000 What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, but that's not really true.

01:56:52.000 It's being used for blackmail.

01:56:54.000 I remember having Senator DeCamp on, probably 15 years ago, and hitting delay and delay and delay, because he was saying Boys Town, and it hadn't come out yet, and that Penn State was a pedophile ring.

01:57:05.000 And I told him, sir, you can't talk like that on air.

01:57:07.000 It hadn't been in the news.

01:57:08.000 I'm not going to cover it.

01:57:09.000 I just cover stuff that's pretty much already there or we break it ourselves.

01:57:12.000 We don't speculate very often, very rarely.

01:57:15.000 And then years later, it all comes out and we all know Sandusky was just one level of this.

01:57:21.000 I mean, my God, I hate to think how deep this goes.

01:57:24.000 It's crazy.

01:57:26.000 Well, uh, the American ruling class probably would make Caligula envious at this point.

01:57:32.000 And, uh, Washington, D.C.

01:57:34.000 is certainly a Babylon unto itself.

01:57:36.000 It is.

01:57:37.000 It is.

01:57:38.000 Listen, Mr. Vinson, Mr. Bryant, thank you so much for your courage.

01:57:41.000 People should get the book, Confessions of an E.C.

01:57:43.000 Madam. 0.98

01:57:43.000 I want to have you back up in the near future. 0.98

01:57:45.000 Have a good rest of your Sunday evening.

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01:57:49.000 Great job to the crew.

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