Alex Jones Show - 20151026_Mon_Alex

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00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:31.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show on this Monday, October 26, 2015.

00:00:40.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

00:00:42.000 We have a host of news.

00:00:44.000 We have the IRS now having their own Stingray cell phones.

00:00:50.000 This has been something that's been done by a lot of different agencies.

00:00:54.000 And of course, whenever they do it, they do it secretly because they don't want the citizens to know about it.

00:01:00.000 I remember we had a story about a year, year and a half ago, There was a local police department that had used Stingray to illegally search people without a warrant.

00:01:09.000 And of course, Stingray is an electronic device whereby they can grab your cell phone location and other information without getting a search warrant.

00:01:18.000 And they're not supposed to do that.

00:01:20.000 They had a situation where they had apprehended someone who was involved in alleged theft.

00:01:24.000 And when he came before the judge, the judge said, well, how did you acquire this information?

00:01:29.000 And they said, well, we can't tell you, judge.

00:01:31.000 We have a non-disclosure agreement.

00:01:34.000 And he said, uh, you don't have a non-disclosure agreement with me.

00:01:38.000 He said, how did you get this information?

00:01:41.000 So they huddled together and they said, never mind, we're going to drop the charges.

00:01:45.000 They've done everything they can to try to hide this illegal snooping using Stingray.

00:01:51.000 Now we find out...

00:01:52.000 That the 13th agency, we've had 12 different agencies that have been exposed to be doing this, the 13th agency is now the IRS doing this.

00:02:01.000 Yes, it is total information awareness, total surveillance by every bureaucracy you can imagine.

00:02:08.000 All of them arming themselves with weapons, all of them arming themselves with listening devices to spy upon you.

00:02:14.000 That's the kind of government we're looking at right now.

00:02:17.000 So we're going to break into what's going on with that.

00:02:20.000 And of course, just this last week, the end of last week, they passed CISA, the Cyber Security Information Sharing Act.

00:02:28.000 This is something that is supposed to allow them to ...provide legal protection for corporations who turn over information to them, because they don't want to give the corporations any excuse to deny turning this information over to them.

00:02:42.000 So they're going to say, don't worry, you're protected, but you better turn it over.

00:02:46.000 It's also a way of giving legal protection and legal cover to something that's been going on for quite a while.

00:02:53.000 We see a lot of tech companies, a lot of them who have been collaborators, quizlings for the surveillance state, Saying, oh, we don't want to do this, when in reality they really want the liability protection is really all that they want.

00:03:06.000 But there are some who really don't want to do it.

00:03:08.000 And that has been one of the issues that they've been able to use, saying, if we were to do this, we would be betraying the privacy concerns of our customers.

00:03:17.000 But this is how the government has been rolling this out for quite some time.

00:03:22.000 Saying that the information that the phone company collects, that your internet service provider collects, that anybody that you deal with, anyone that collects any information on you, that's no longer your information.

00:03:33.000 So turn it over.

00:03:35.000 Because you don't want us to play rough with you if you're the phone company.

00:03:38.000 You know, we give you a monopoly, a nice lucrative monopoly.

00:03:43.000 We're going to look at some minority report pre-crime ways that this information is being used.

00:03:47.000 If you don't think that it's really going to be used against Americans, understand, of course, it already is.

00:03:52.000 We just had the IRS given a free rein by the Department of Justice, quote-unquote, this last week, saying that there wasn't any malice with this, there wasn't any political targeting of this.

00:04:05.000 Of course there was.

00:04:07.000 If there wasn't any malice or political targeting, it would have been done across the political spectrum.

00:04:13.000 It wasn't.

00:04:14.000 It was focused on conservative groups.

00:04:17.000 And they said, this isn't happening.

00:04:18.000 Well, it is still going on.

00:04:19.000 There are still Tea Party organizations that have had their paperwork held up for years.

00:04:26.000 Many of them have still not gotten that information.

00:04:28.000 We're also going to cover some information about what's going on with Paul Reino, the person who seems to be the choice for the next Speaker of the House, someone who is going to be able to work with Obama, be acceptable to John Boehner because he's going to give them everything that they want.

00:04:44.000 We're going to take a look at that.

00:04:46.000 Also, some news on open borders and what it tells us about the collapsing globalist socialist state.

00:04:52.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:53.000 Stay with us.

00:04:54.000 Kid Daniels, InfoWars.com.

00:05:11.000 Did you know that half of all Americans make less than $30,000 a year?

00:05:15.000 New government data also reveals that 40% of Americans are making less than $20,000 annually, which is well below the poverty level for a family of four.

00:05:22.000 And, according to the Daily Caller, this new data doesn't take into account the 8 million Americans who are unemployed, or the tens of millions of Americans who gave up trying to find a job.

00:05:31.000 In fact, we're now experiencing the lowest participation rate since 1977.

00:05:36.000 This means that America's middle class is systematically being destroyed, and this is intentional. 0.91

00:05:41.000 Niccolò Machiavelli, a 16th century pioneer on statescraft, once said that it was in the government's best interest to keep its citizens poor.

00:05:48.000 But why?

00:05:49.000 Well, if the middle class disappears, we're going to have a huge income gap in America between the ultra-elite, who hold most of the government power, and the dirt poor, who are too impoverished to stop the expanse of government at the expense of their rights.

00:06:00.000 Once again, this is Kit Daniels with InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv, and keep checking back for more reports.

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00:08:33.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:08:39.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show on this Monday, October 26, 2015.

00:08:41.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

00:08:45.000 We're going to be talking in the third hour to Zoltan Istvan.

00:08:49.000 He is a candidate for presidency with the Transhumanist Party, a party that he created.

00:08:54.000 So we're going to talk to him about his goals for transhumanism, what he thinks that's about.

00:08:59.000 Should be an interesting interview.

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00:09:04.000 Before we get to that, I want to talk about the out-of-control use of technology by our government.

00:09:12.000 Of course, we learned last week, at the end of the week, that the Department of Justice was not going to target Lois Lerner.

00:09:19.000 Maybe it's because they think that she's related to a girlfriend of Superman.

00:09:23.000 I don't know.

00:09:23.000 But it looks like she's got more powerful friends than Superman.

00:09:27.000 She's got powerful people in the government. 1.00

00:09:30.000 And we were told at the time that, you know, it was just bureaucratic incompetence.

00:09:35.000 Well, if it was bureaucratic incompetence, it would affect groups equally across the political spectrum.

00:09:41.000 This was targeted on conservative groups, on Tea Party groups.

00:09:46.000 And now we learn that they are still targeting Tea Party groups.

00:09:50.000 This isn't something that has gone on, that has stopped.

00:09:53.000 The Washington Times reports that the IRS is still holding up the non-profit applications for Tea Party groups, including one that has been waiting nearly six years for approval.

00:10:04.000 As I say, it's no wonder so many Americans have had it with Washington and the elite political class who can get away with something like this, says Mark Meckler, president of the Citizens for Self-Governance, one of the organizers of the class action lawsuit.

00:10:17.000 Yet another case is pending before federal appeals court after Tea Party challengers lost at the district court level, where the judge ruled that the IRS targeting stopped in 2013, so there was no longer a case to be decided.

00:10:30.000 And yet, that's not the case.

00:10:32.000 They say that was news, that it's stopped two years ago.

00:10:35.000 That's news to the Albuquerque Tea Party, which applied for non-profit status back in December of 2009 and is still waiting for approval.

00:10:45.000 And also another one of the center's clients, Unite In Action, an Ohio group, has been waiting for more than three years for approval.

00:10:52.000 So one is in New Mexico, another one is in Ohio, but of course there's no coordination by The central offices of the IRS.

00:11:01.000 That's precisely what was going on.

00:11:03.000 We all know what's going on.

00:11:04.000 And we all know that the people in power continually get away with committing crimes because simply they are in power.

00:11:13.000 Jay Sekulow, one of the chief counsels for the American Center for Law and Justice that is challenging this, says it's an outrage, a mockery of justice.

00:11:20.000 Yes, it's a mockery of the rule of law.

00:11:23.000 And it's something that we have come to see everywhere.

00:11:26.000 Look at this article from The Guardian.

00:11:28.000 Not only is the IRS targeting Tea Party groups and getting away with it, but now they're acquiring Stingray cell phone surveillance gear.

00:11:36.000 Actually, this has been going on for quite some time.

00:11:38.000 Going back to the time when they were holding up, guess what?

00:11:41.000 Tax status for Tea Party groups, going back to the same years, 2009, 2012, under the Freedom of Information Act, they have found, this is a Guardian investigation, they found documents for purchases made six years ago.

00:11:57.000 When they started this targeting of the Tea Party, they also started collecting Stingray devices.

00:12:02.000 As I mentioned in the last segment, this is something that the FBI has worked very hard to keep quiet.

00:12:09.000 Many law enforcement agencies will tell the judge they have a non-disclosure agreement and they will refuse to reveal how they got this information if the judge challenges them and says, where's your search warrant?

00:12:19.000 Well, you know, I just have this stuff.

00:12:21.000 But of course, there's other ways that they can do this.

00:12:23.000 We know that for many years, the Drug Enforcement Agency and others have illegally collected information.

00:12:29.000 The NSA would collect information illegally, pass it to the DEA.

00:12:32.000 They would use parallel construction to pretend that they had acquired this with a search warrant.

00:12:37.000 But now they're not really even bothering with that beard.

00:12:40.000 They just go out and violate the law with impunity.

00:12:44.000 And it's going to get worse.

00:12:45.000 And we'll tell you how it's going to get worse.

00:12:46.000 But first, this situation.

00:12:48.000 They say privacy advocates say the revelation quote shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology despite their extensive capabilities.

00:12:59.000 In these Stingray devices, they require only a low-level court order called a pen register.

00:13:05.000 It's also known as a trap and trace in order to grant permission for their use.

00:13:10.000 Very similar to what's going on with the NSA when they say that they're going to get this massive broad search warrant, as Rand Paul put it, going before the FISA court and saying, I want a search warrant for Mr. and Mrs. Verizon.

00:13:26.000 In which case, the FISA Court says, sure, you can listen to anybody that has a Verizon account.

00:13:32.000 Oh, I'd like one for Mr. and Mrs. AT&T as well.

00:13:34.000 Yeah, no problem, sure.

00:13:37.000 No, no, no problem with that.

00:13:38.000 We can do dragnet surveillance of everybody in the United States.

00:13:41.000 And it's going to get worse, I'll tell you about that in just a moment.

00:13:44.000 Various revelations by the ACLU and other news outlets, including the Guardian, have shown at least 12 federal agencies already known to have these devices, including the NSA, the FBI.

00:13:54.000 Now the IRS makes 13.

00:13:57.000 A baker's dozen.

00:13:58.000 Yes, they harass our people and they eat out their substance.

00:14:02.000 That's the nature of government if it's not controlled.

00:14:05.000 Government is always either at your feet or at your throat.

00:14:09.000 Let me ask you, do you think it's at your feet?

00:14:12.000 No, it's not.

00:14:14.000 So where are they going next with this?

00:14:15.000 Well, the next thing that they're doing is greasing the skids, giving themselves some legal cover, saying that they're going to pass CISA.

00:14:25.000 This is something that they've tried for multiple times.

00:14:27.000 They called it CISPA and now it is called CISA and they're getting it through.

00:14:32.000 Nothing has really changed except dropping the P for protection.

00:14:35.000 This is the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act.

00:14:38.000 It used to be the Cyber Security Information Sharing Protection Act.

00:14:42.000 And I guess maybe people said, well, who's getting protected by this?

00:14:44.000 Because this isn't something that is increasing the protection of individuals.

00:14:49.000 You're spying on us.

00:14:50.000 You're collecting our information.

00:14:51.000 It's like, oh, well, it's there.

00:14:52.000 The P is there to protect companies from being sued by you when they violate your privacy.

00:14:59.000 You know, that other P word that they don't like.

00:15:02.000 That P word that's getting banned by the government.

00:15:06.000 This has now been passed by the Senate.

00:15:07.000 They just need to reconcile it with the House.

00:15:09.000 Obama has indicated that he will sign it.

00:15:11.000 Of course he will.

00:15:13.000 He will not shy away from any kind of surveillance.

00:15:17.000 He said we would have the most transparent administration we had ever seen.

00:15:21.000 That's what Obama told everybody.

00:15:22.000 Little did you realize that the transparency was going to be on you, not on him.

00:15:28.000 Everything they do is a secret.

00:15:31.000 We have a state religion of national security.

00:15:34.000 Everything is sacrificed to it.

00:15:36.000 Your privacy, the rule of law, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

00:15:40.000 But, they will not tell you anything about what they're doing.

00:15:43.000 We've had this trade agreement, I think that was now three weeks ago, they announced that they had come up with this agreement.

00:15:49.000 We were told for a very long time that the corporations and the corporate lobbyists who are working on this trade partnership, quote unquote, it's a treaty.

00:15:58.000 We were told that they couldn't tell us about this because that would just scotch the whole deal.

00:16:02.000 You know, you can't go public as this thing is being negotiated.

00:16:05.000 We'll let you know once it's negotiated.

00:16:07.000 Well, here we are, three weeks later, maybe four, I don't know the exact date, but it's been at least three weeks.

00:16:13.000 We still don't have any information from our corporate masters as to what they're about to do.

00:16:19.000 We do know that it's going to be far more than free trade.

00:16:22.000 It is going to reorganize copyright, it's going to reorganize national sovereignty, it is going to elevate corporations to the level of government, which of course they are, aren't they?

00:16:32.000 If they can tell our congressmen and senators that they cannot talk about what's going on with this agreement because they have to sign a non-disclosure agreement, there's that non-disclosure agreement again, right?

00:16:45.000 NDAs all over the place, because we're operating in a corporate environment now.

00:16:50.000 We don't have a government anymore.

00:16:51.000 We have a multinational corporations are running this government, so they deal on non-disclosure agreements and everything that they do is secret.

00:17:01.000 They say although CISA is branded a cyber security bill, this is from InfoWorld, and of course this is a tech organization, this is not a political organization, this is a technical organization, InfoWorld.

00:17:14.000 They say although CISA is branded a cyber security bill, it does nothing to actually improve the effectiveness of security systems.

00:17:21.000 This is people who understand computers telling you this.

00:17:23.000 It's concerned instead with increasing the amount of information that corporations share with government and protecting those companies from liability for violating a customer's privacy.

00:17:34.000 Yeah, again, like I said, it's going to legitimize it, but it will also put pressure on some of the companies that have been reluctant to turn this over, saying we would experience legal issues, we would be sued by customers if we do this, because they didn't want to turn that information over, they didn't want to violate your privacy.

00:17:50.000 Now the government will use CISA as a club against these holdouts, telling them, no, you don't have any liability, so you don't have any reason not to give that information to me, hand it over.

00:18:02.000 That's the way they're going to use this.

00:18:04.000 And of course I point out that the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, CISPA, was introduced back in 2011.

00:18:09.000 It failed.

00:18:10.000 It was reintroduced in 2013.

00:18:12.000 It was failed again last year.

00:18:15.000 And he mentioned that protection was stripped out and they have now pushed this thing through.

00:18:19.000 And of course Aaron Schwartz worked very hard to defeat that.

00:18:24.000 I would say that he gave his life to defeat that.

00:18:26.000 I don't believe that he killed himself in desperation.

00:18:29.000 That's the official narrative from the government.

00:18:32.000 People who knew him said they were absolutely blindsided by this.

00:18:36.000 How many times do we have to have someone that the government tells us committed suicide in prison or whatever?

00:18:42.000 How many times does that have to happen?

00:18:44.000 And they're all saying, hey, I'm fine.

00:18:46.000 I'm fighting this to the end.

00:18:48.000 And everybody that they know says they were well adjusted.

00:18:51.000 They were a fighter.

00:18:52.000 They were going after this.

00:18:53.000 And then all of a sudden, They commit suicide, you know, like Gary Webb or the DC Madam or so many different people that we've talked to.

00:19:01.000 And of course, Aaron Schwartz was a fighter.

00:19:06.000 He picked this fight with them.

00:19:07.000 He wasn't shying away from this.

00:19:09.000 And although you had a prosecutor, interestingly enough, The same prosecutor, Carmen Ortiz, who was involved in the subsequent Boston bombing false flag, even though Carmen Ortiz was pushing him and publicly saying that they were going to try to put him in prison for 35 years, the charges had been dropped by the university, the charges had been dropped at the local level.

00:19:31.000 He said that's not anything.

00:19:33.000 He had removed some data.

00:19:34.000 It wasn't any kind of a cyber hack or anything, but the feds came in and tried to make an issue out of it.

00:19:40.000 And she got a lot of pushback because she was trying to prosecute him.

00:19:44.000 Her husband tweeted and said, don't push back on Carmen.

00:19:48.000 She offered him a three month plea bargain and he turned it down.

00:19:52.000 That tweet was subsequently deleted.

00:19:55.000 I don't think he committed suicide.

00:19:57.000 And now we have Sissa, because one person can make a difference.

00:20:02.000 That's why they take them out.

00:20:03.000 Stay with us.

00:20:04.000 We're going to tell you what Julian Assange says to do next.

00:20:07.000 And that is use snail mail.

00:20:09.000 We'll be right back.

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00:25:25.000 Let's go back to what's happening with our never-ending, always-metastasizing cancer of a surveillance state here.

00:25:32.000 Here's a lawsuit that's just been dismissed.

00:25:35.000 It's from Wikimedia versus the NSA.

00:25:40.000 It's a lawsuit that's been dismissed by the judge.

00:25:43.000 And listen to the reason that it was dismissed.

00:25:46.000 Because they couldn't prove that they were being surveilled.

00:25:51.000 I mean, seriously.

00:25:51.000 Secretly.

00:25:52.000 This is straight out of a Kafka novel.

00:25:55.000 He says, well, you know, you have no way of knowing if we're secretly spying on you, so I'm not going to entertain this lawsuit.

00:26:03.000 I mean, seriously, what the judge is saying?

00:26:06.000 They say, plaintiffs can only speculate that they are being spied upon by the NSA, so I'm not going to allow you to do any discovery or do a lawsuit.

00:26:15.000 And he says, and for one thing, here's another thing he says.

00:26:19.000 Plaintiffs insist that Wikipedia's over 1 trillion annual internet communications are significant in volume.

00:26:26.000 And then the judge goes on to say, but 1 trillion is clearly a large number, but size is always relative.

00:26:32.000 For example, 1 trillion dollars are enormous value.

00:26:36.000 Well, maybe not to the federal government.

00:26:38.000 But he says, whereas 1 trillion grains of sand are but a small patch of a beach.

00:26:44.000 Like, what?

00:26:44.000 What is he talking about?

00:26:46.000 Here you got a judge Arguing about how many angels fit on the head of a pen and using that as justification.

00:26:53.000 It is nothing but sophistry and obfuscation.

00:26:56.000 We all know what they're doing.

00:26:59.000 We all know that they are watching people.

00:27:01.000 But he says, because you can't prove that you're being watched.

00:27:04.000 I mean, there's, you know, documents that have been released and, you know, we've had leaks of documents.

00:27:08.000 We've had NSA whistleblowers testifying that you're doing this.

00:27:11.000 But, you know, you can't prove it.

00:27:13.000 And so you have to prove it before you get your day in court.

00:27:17.000 That's essentially the kind of Kafka world that we live in.

00:27:21.000 Absolutely amazing.

00:27:22.000 So, Julian Assange is now telling journalists, he says, you need to go back to the old methods.

00:27:27.000 You need to use snail mail, traditional post office services.

00:27:31.000 Well, you know, that is true.

00:27:32.000 I mean, it is not as vulnerable as email.

00:27:37.000 But of course, one of the reasons that the government has always run the post office system in the first place is because they wanted to use that as a crude level of intelligence gathering.

00:27:46.000 They can put a postal cover on you and they can keep a record of everybody that you send mail to and everybody that sends mail to you.

00:27:52.000 They don't have to get a search warrant for that.

00:27:53.000 That's where this all started.

00:27:55.000 Started with that, started with these pen registers for the phone companies, and now this is just metastasizing into full-blown Orwellian police state.

00:28:05.000 A Stasi state. 0.96

00:28:06.000 But he points out, he says, my recommendation for people who don't have 10 years experience in cryptography is to return to old methods and use traditional postal services, Julian Assange said in an interview that was published on Saturday.

00:28:20.000 And you need to understand that they're always watching you, and he has warned people about that.

00:28:24.000 He's warned people about what they put on Facebook.

00:28:27.000 He says, you know, Facebook is basically your friends testifying against you, has you on the dock.

00:28:33.000 I don't remember the exact quote that he had, but he was warning everybody about social media especially. 0.71

00:28:38.000 Look at this incredibly ridiculous decision from a local judge.

00:28:43.000 A judge says that a small school's Facebook post was actually a campaign contribution. 0.88

00:28:49.000 This is a state judge.

00:28:50.000 He ruled that a Facebook post by a school called Liberty Commons amounted to an illegal campaign contribution to a school district board candidate.

00:28:59.000 The charter school shared on its Facebook with its Facebook followers a newspaper article about the parent of one of the students who is running for a school board seat in the neighboring school district.

00:29:09.000 Now, this school has 566 followers on its Facebook page.

00:29:15.000 It was then shared by a former congressman who lost his re-election bid in 2004 and he has 3,900 friends.

00:29:23.000 The administrative law judge called the violation minor and he ruled that no government money or any significant amount was spent to make the contribution.

00:29:30.000 But he also said that it was giving of a thing of value to a candidate, namely favorable publicity.

00:29:36.000 Do you understand the dangerous precedence on free speech that that represents?

00:29:41.000 The University of Colorado Law professor Scott Moss did.

00:29:44.000 He says, I don't buy under the First Amendment speech can be deemed as a contribution.

00:29:50.000 He says this judge has a Grandpa Simpson understanding of the law and of email.

00:29:56.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:57.000 Stay with us.

00:29:58.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

00:30:02.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:30:09.000 Hey Daniels, InfoWars.com.

00:30:11.000 Gun deaths are down 30% since 1993.

00:30:14.000 That's right, all gun deaths, including murders, suicides, police shootings, and accidental shootings, have dropped nearly a third.

00:30:20.000 In between 1993 and 2000, the firearm murder rate dropped by almost half.

00:30:24.000 But guess what?

00:30:25.000 California, which has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, leads the nation in murders, according to the Washington Examiner.

00:30:32.000 And generally speaking, the most violent cities in the country have the most severe gun restrictions.

00:30:36.000 That isn't that surprising.

00:30:37.000 I mean, if you're out committing violent crimes, do you really want your victims shooting back?

00:30:40.000 So isn't it ironic, then, that the mainstream media and the Obama administration are currently pushing for more gun control?

00:30:46.000 President Obama is even considering enacting gun control via executive order.

00:30:49.000 But not only is that illegal, it's also dictatorial.

00:30:52.000 Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay called that an impeachable offense.

00:30:56.000 In an interview with Newsmax, he said it's time for the House to start letting the people know that this is a lawless president.

00:31:01.000 An imperial president isn't just a threat to our Second Amendment rights, but all of our freedoms. 0.71

00:31:01.000 And that's true. 0.71

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00:33:08.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:33:24.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:33:29.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:30.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

00:33:32.000 We're going to talk about The failures, the design failures of Obamacare and some amazing new information about people getting fined who have small companies and are just trying to help their employees with some health care expenses and the fines that they're going to be facing.

00:33:52.000 They're far worse.

00:33:54.000 than not participating in Obamacare in the first place.

00:33:57.000 It's absolutely amazing how they are focusing on people.

00:34:01.000 But before we do, I want to continue on with this Facebook.

00:34:03.000 I was just talking about this judge who said that posting information about somebody's candidacy on Facebook was a campaign contribution.

00:34:13.000 I want you to think about that.

00:34:14.000 Think about how dangerous that is.

00:34:17.000 Think about how that is going to silence our freedom of speech.

00:34:22.000 You know, quite frankly, that's one of the problems that I have with campaign finance control.

00:34:27.000 I understand that we have corporations that are buying the election, of course.

00:34:31.000 They're buying the trade treaties, they're buying everything.

00:34:33.000 The corporations run the government.

00:34:36.000 Nevertheless, When they enact campaign prohibitions, that's going to fall on the smaller people.

00:34:43.000 You understand, of course, don't you, that the government, multinational corporations will make sure that they have loopholes written for them.

00:34:52.000 They will know how they can get around these loopholes.

00:34:55.000 This is going to be a spider's web that is going to catch the small flies and gnats, but the great big bumblebees are going to go right through it. 0.99

00:35:02.000 And that's what we have to be worried about if you've got idiotic judges like this local judge saying that a Facebook post is a campaign contribution. 0.99

00:35:11.000 But of course it can also be something that's very dangerous. 1.00

00:35:13.000 Look at this story out of Egypt.

00:35:15.000 And of course, this is our close ally in Egypt.

00:35:19.000 We just have a news of a guy who is going to get three years in jail for simply putting Mickey Mouse ears behind, photoshopping them, putting Mickey Mouse ears behind a picture of the president, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi.

00:35:35.000 You know, I guess having a name like El Sissy makes you extremely sensitive to any mocking.

00:35:42.000 And take a look at that picture if you're watching this broadcast.

00:35:45.000 There he is.

00:35:46.000 And as they say, that picture should go viral.

00:35:50.000 That picture should be shared by everyone all over social media.

00:35:55.000 He was charged with, quote, attempting to overthrow the regime for putting Mickey Mouse ears on him and getting three years in jail.

00:36:05.000 And you just have to understand that as ridiculous as this may seem to us now, understand that all of the political correctness, shaming that's going on on social media, as they're moving towards this, understand that they are preparing us in the West for this kind of censorship.

00:36:25.000 That's what's fundamentally behind all of this, these shaming campaigns, all of this political correctness.

00:36:31.000 Again, we were talking about The IRS investing in stingray devices to watch people.

00:36:38.000 Of course, now the FBI director has come out and said that cell phone cameras are to blame for the rise in hostile relationships between the police and the public.

00:36:48.000 There you go.

00:36:50.000 Shoot the messenger. 0.98

00:36:51.000 In this case, the iPhones. 0.99

00:36:53.000 It's not that they're spying on us.

00:36:53.000 Okay?

00:36:55.000 It's not that they're beating us.

00:36:57.000 You know, actually, you ought to take this and turn it around the other way as well.

00:36:57.000 No, no.

00:37:01.000 Perhaps their constant surveillance is creating a kind of minority report pre-crime environment where they single people out.

00:37:11.000 And we're going to talk about that in just a moment.

00:37:12.000 But of course, the FBI director's name is James Comey, and he is now saying cell phone cameras are poisoning the relationship.

00:37:20.000 They're not going to do anything to change the shoot-first, brutal instructions that are coming out of Washington that are taking over our local law enforcement.

00:37:30.000 Making them not accountable to local citizens.

00:37:34.000 No, they're not going to change any of that.

00:37:35.000 Instead, they're going to complain about cell phones.

00:37:39.000 And that is going to have the logical result, if he can keep this narrative going, of course they will ban cell phones or put some kind of a restriction on cell phones that when the police are doing their work, they can flip a switch and you won't be able to record or transmit what's going on.

00:37:54.000 That's where this is really headed.

00:37:56.000 But it was interesting when they put this up on the Daily Mail.

00:37:59.000 About three bullet points down, they say, of course his name is James Comey, they say comedy blames the YouTube effect.

00:38:08.000 They put his name in as comedy.

00:38:11.000 And maybe that's what we ought to do. 0.96

00:38:12.000 Maybe we ought to ridicule him and laugh at him like this Egyptian dictator with the Mickey Mouse ears. 1.00

00:38:19.000 Maybe we ought to start calling this FBI director James Comedy if he's going to tell us that cell phone cameras are the problems with the way the police are interacting with people.

00:38:29.000 He truly is a James comedy.

00:38:32.000 Here's where this is all headed.

00:38:34.000 And just like I said, you know, maybe they ought to think about the fact that their constant surveillance is causing them to overreact.

00:38:42.000 Maybe that's the problem.

00:38:43.000 Here's an example of this.

00:38:44.000 We got a minority report pre-crime in New Hampshire.

00:38:47.000 A teen arrested after he just parked in a predictive hotspot for crime.

00:38:53.000 This is an 18-year-old man.

00:38:55.000 He was arrested in Manchester, New Hampshire.

00:38:57.000 A police officer scoped him out for parking within a, quote, predictive hotspot for crime.

00:39:02.000 In other words, they say, well, this area is going to be a high-crime area.

00:39:06.000 And they made sure it was a high-crime area, except in this case, it was the police committing the crimes.

00:39:11.000 On October 20th, Conor DeLear was sitting by himself in his parked 2000 Honda Accord, and he was in an area, as I said, a hotspot deemed by computer programs.

00:39:21.000 You see, this is going to be, this is where we're going to be heading.

00:39:23.000 You're going to have computer programs and algorithms that are going to flag you.

00:39:26.000 We've already seen this with spy cameras that are hooked up to predictive software.

00:39:32.000 Flagging someone who was changing a flat tire.

00:39:35.000 They thought he was involved in car theft because he stood by the car, then he disappeared.

00:39:39.000 They couldn't see him in the camera.

00:39:41.000 So what'd they do?

00:39:42.000 Well, they called a SWAT team out against this guy who had a flat tire.

00:39:46.000 Now, in that particular case, it turned out okay.

00:39:48.000 In this particular, in this, in this case, I'm telling you about here, though, it did not turn out okay.

00:39:53.000 He was parked at 535.

00:39:55.000 The cop thought that looked suspicious, fine, so he circles around, he blocks the path of the car with his squad car, and then gets out and starts to question the individual, at which point this individual gets nervous.

00:40:10.000 And the officer says he attempted to provide a legitimate reason for being in the area.

00:40:15.000 Why should he have to provide a legitimate reason for being in the area?

00:40:19.000 The cop could sit there and watch him if he wanted to, to see if he's going to commit a crime.

00:40:23.000 Perhaps his presence might deter a crime if this guy was going to commit a crime, but he doesn't need to have a legitimate area.

00:40:30.000 He doesn't need to justify being in an area to the police.

00:40:33.000 Nevertheless, the cop ordered him out of the car.

00:40:37.000 Shortly after that, a second officer arrived.

00:40:39.000 Then they noticed that he had a holstered Beretta 9mm handgun.

00:40:43.000 They removed it, put it inside of his vehicle, but they confirmed that his gun was properly permitted and registered.

00:40:49.000 Now they want to inspect his car.

00:40:52.000 They say he grew agitated.

00:40:54.000 He stated he was not allowing a search of his person or his property.

00:40:58.000 In other words, he's going to stand on his constitutional rights.

00:41:01.000 You want to search my car?

00:41:02.000 Go to a judge.

00:41:03.000 Get a warrant.

00:41:03.000 Well, they didn't want to do that.

00:41:05.000 So they advised him that they were conducting a pat-down search to ensure their safety.

00:41:10.000 So now they're afraid.

00:41:12.000 After they engage this guy for just sitting in his car, after they get him out of his car, now they're concerned because there's two of them and one of them, they're concerned for their safety.

00:41:21.000 So then they find an object in his pocket, and of course it is a loaded magazine that is just sitting there waiting to go off in his pocket.

00:41:29.000 They take that out, put it on the top of the car, and continue the search.

00:41:34.000 And then they say he was transitioned to the ground before being pepper sprayed and tasered by newly arriving backup officers.

00:41:41.000 Now the interesting thing about this is that somebody on a Reddit discussion put this up and said, wow.

00:41:48.000 I can comment on this.

00:41:49.000 This literally happened outside my window.

00:41:51.000 I went to the window for a smoke as two officers had him bent over the car, trying to put handcuffs on him.

00:41:56.000 He was asking them over and over again, what have I done wrong?

00:42:00.000 They got tired of him not letting them put the handcuffs on.

00:42:02.000 They put him on the sidewalk, face down, trying to strong arm the cuffs on.

00:42:06.000 Finally, they call for backup.

00:42:07.000 He's just trying to keep one arm away from him and asking, what did I do wrong?

00:42:10.000 Just tell me, what did I do wrong?

00:42:11.000 Suddenly, he says, my street was swarmed with cops.

00:42:14.000 One guy ran up with like a taser in his hand, zapped him while he's on the ground.

00:42:18.000 He had like five guys holding him down.

00:42:20.000 They got the cuffs on him.

00:42:21.000 They threw him in a paddy wagon.

00:42:22.000 When I saw him get up, he had a huge cut on his forehead, I assume because one of the cops was grinding his face into the ground with his knee.

00:42:30.000 I didn't know they pepper sprayed him.

00:42:32.000 I didn't see that, he says.

00:42:34.000 But he said they didn't tow his car, they just left it in the area.

00:42:36.000 He said, I had no idea they arrested him for just being around here.

00:42:41.000 WTF, he says.

00:42:43.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:44.000 Why would that happen?

00:42:45.000 Well, here's another one for you, okay?

00:42:46.000 You think, well, gee, I guess he had it coming because he's parked in an area that they have identified as a hotspot.

00:42:54.000 Well, here's some people attending a Breitbart News sponsored event in Scottsdale, Arizona.

00:43:00.000 And they get the police, helicopters with spotlights, a massive police presence turnout because they are having an event in a local sports bar.

00:43:11.000 They go to the sports bar, they have a speech that's going on by one of the Breitbart people.

00:43:15.000 Talking about conservative issues, the U.S.

00:43:18.000 Constitution, the Second Amendment, securing the poorest U.S. 0.84

00:43:21.000 border, they say.

00:43:22.000 Suddenly, one or two people complained to the establishment's management, and shortly after that, they cut the microphones, and the volume of the televisions was turned up.

00:43:31.000 And then, multiple police showed up.

00:43:34.000 They said there's no confrontations, no shouting, no yelling, no fighting, no disagreement, no disturbing the peace, absolutely nothing.

00:43:41.000 He says the police were completely professional, courteous, But seemed somewhat surprised that they were there, but said it was reported by the group that we had been unruly.

00:43:50.000 He says, as an attendee of the event, I and everyone else in attendance can tell you that we were not unruly.

00:43:55.000 They believed that it was the subject of what was being talked about.

00:43:59.000 This is what you need to be concerned about.

00:44:01.000 The fact that we live in a Stasi snitch state. 0.94

00:44:07.000 Somebody sees something, they say something.

00:44:10.000 If they're offended by something, they report you to the police.

00:44:13.000 And fortunately, Nothing happened, nobody got injured in this particular case, but that is the way this is going down multiple times.

00:44:22.000 I want to talk to you about Obamacare, and as I pointed out, this amazing new regulation, and also the fraud that has been discovered in it.

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00:45:00.000 Now the other day, and get this clip up from Bernie Sanders, guys, let's play this one where he talks about the guys being poets down in Nicaragua.

00:45:09.000 Bernie Sandinista, and I call him that because he was talking 30 years ago, just like, you know, Back to the Future, kind of like Doc from Back to the Future, except 30 years ago he was praising the Sandinistas.

00:45:22.000 He was praising them.

00:45:23.000 He said, yeah, these guys aren't political hacks.

00:45:25.000 No, no.

00:45:26.000 They're like hippies. 0.52

00:45:26.000 They're poets. 0.52

00:45:27.000 They got Vermont connections.

00:45:28.000 You know, they're kind of just like me.

00:45:30.000 You guys got that clip ready?

00:45:31.000 Let's roll that clip. 0.89

00:45:34.000 I was impressed by Father D'Escoto, and he is a very gentle, very loving man.

00:45:38.000 He's familiar with Burlington, Vermont.

00:45:39.000 He had a niece who graduated from St.

00:45:42.000 Michael's College, actually, who's now working for the government of Nicaragua.

00:45:46.000 Ortega is an impressive guy.

00:45:47.000 Ernesto Cardinal is a funny-looking guy.

00:45:51.000 He's grey-haired.

00:45:53.000 And he really does remind you of the hippie.

00:45:54.000 I mean, Ernesto, in fact... He's kind of like me.

00:45:58.000 You know, he's very strongly into poetry.

00:46:02.000 He is very proud of the fact that they are now teaching poetry, not only to peasants and to workers, but in the military, in the police department.

00:46:12.000 A very impressive guy.

00:46:13.000 Yeah, the peasants, the military, you know, they got their own little Maoist cultural revolution going on down there.

00:46:19.000 It's great!

00:46:19.000 And these guys look like me, you know, they're hippies, they got, you know, long white hair, connections to Vermont.

00:46:25.000 They're not political hacks!

00:46:26.000 See, he's caught up in identity politics.

00:46:29.000 He's caught up in the left-right paradigm.

00:46:32.000 He loved the Sandinistas, Bernie Sandinista did.

00:46:35.000 He loved them because he opposed the American government policy of overthrowing whatever countries they want to overthrow.

00:46:43.000 And I agree with him.

00:46:44.000 I agree that Iran-Contra was a horrible thing. 0.95

00:46:47.000 I agree that the smuggling of crack cocaine by the CIA to fund the Contras into LA was a horrible thing.

00:46:55.000 I don't think we should be overthrowing other countries.

00:46:57.000 But that doesn't mean that the Sandernistas were good guys, Bernie.

00:47:02.000 See, that's what happens when you get caught up in the left-right paradigm.

00:47:06.000 When you get into this either-or mentality.

00:47:09.000 And he hasn't learned anything in the last 30 years.

00:47:11.000 As I pointed out when I talked about this before, he hasn't learned about what happened with Daniel Ortega.

00:47:18.000 Daniel Ortega, who was so thoroughly corrupt, he was thrown out by a coalition of conservatives and communists.

00:47:25.000 He was a kleptocrat.

00:47:27.000 He was somebody who had confiscated billions of dollars of private property, and just before he left, he made it private again.

00:47:33.000 He made it his property.

00:47:36.000 That's the kind of guy that Daniel Ortega is.

00:47:39.000 But of course, Bernie Sanders was taken in by it because he bought into, well, if Reagan is against him, I'm for him.

00:47:45.000 And besides that, you know, he looks like me, you know.

00:47:47.000 And he's got, even here, the rhetoric, you know, the peasants and the poets.

00:47:52.000 I mean, the peasants and the serfs or whatever.

00:47:56.000 I mean, he's got this class warfare, Marxist rhetoric that comes from Bernie Sanders.

00:48:03.000 But it's okay, because he's got the police and the military learning poetry, too.

00:48:06.000 Isn't that great?

00:48:07.000 They're all a bunch of poets.

00:48:08.000 So I had a lot of people, when I talked about this before, they said, you know, why are you picking on Bernie Sanders?

00:48:13.000 Why are you picking on the failed socialist states in Central America?

00:48:16.000 You know, like Nicaragua and Venezuela, where the bankers get 700% on their investments.

00:48:21.000 And Venezuela, communist Venezuela, Hugo Chavez gives the bankers 700% on their investments, but The people there can't get food, medicine, or water.

00:48:31.000 They have to go elsewhere to get that.

00:48:32.000 So they say, why are you picking on that?

00:48:33.000 You know, why don't you, you always ignore the successes of socialism.

00:48:39.000 You know, like Sweden.

00:48:41.000 Okay, well let's talk about Sweden.

00:48:43.000 Sweden needs to borrow more.

00:48:46.000 They need to cut their costs in order to meet refugee numbers, says their finance minister.

00:48:51.000 Open borders, entitlements, the socialist state, either one of those things will destroy a country.

00:48:58.000 But you put them both together and you start sailing over the cliff like Thelma and Louise, okay?

00:49:04.000 And that's what's happening.

00:49:05.000 That was what Cloward and Piven strategized about back in the 1960s.

00:49:08.000 They said, you know, we just aren't getting there quickly enough.

00:49:12.000 So what we're going to have to do is we're going to have to destroy the society so we can rebuild our socialist utopia.

00:49:17.000 How do we do that?

00:49:18.000 Well, we ramp up the entitlement state and then We ramp up the number of people that are going to be on the entitlement state.

00:49:25.000 So now we can see what's happening in Sweden.

00:49:26.000 You don't see this kind of thing happening in Central and South America simply because Sweden and the European states of Germany and others were so rich to start with.

00:49:36.000 It didn't take very long for socialism to collapse in Central and South America.

00:49:40.000 Even after they confiscate billions of dollars of wealth from other people, they still couldn't Make it go that long.

00:49:47.000 As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money.

00:49:52.000 Well, they didn't have that much of it to start with in Central America, so you saw the results right away.

00:49:55.000 But now we're starting to see the results in Sweden.

00:49:58.000 So we had this story back on the 23rd.

00:50:00.000 Sweden will need to borrow more money, cut costs across the board to meet the expense of record numbers of asylum seekers arriving in the country, said the finance minister.

00:50:08.000 Then we had another one that was a couple of days earlier.

00:50:11.000 Kurt Nemmo pointed out that Sweden was on the verge of collapse as illegal immigrants surged into the country.

00:50:16.000 The anti-immigration party is now the largest in the Scandinavian nation.

00:50:21.000 He points out, and this is a quote from a Danish historian, says, the final consequence of the West and above all Sweden's immigration policy is that the economy will collapse because who is going to pay for it all?

00:50:34.000 And economic breakdowns, once they happen, always happen very quickly.

00:50:39.000 Increasing taxes, he said, on wage earners in Sweden to pay for the influx of illegal immigrants is not enough. 0.65

00:50:44.000 The finance minister said, of course, they're going to borrow this.

00:50:47.000 They said, why has one government after another chosen to spend Swedish taxpayers' money to support and shelter citizens of other countries while some of them are trying to kill us?

00:50:57.000 Precisely.

00:50:58.000 When we come back, we're going to break down how that looks in America with Obamacare.

00:51:03.000 We'll be right back.

00:51:04.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:21.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

00:54:22.000 In the third hour, we're going to be talking to a transhumanist who is actually going to be running for president with his own transhumanist party.

00:54:30.000 He's going to be here live in the studio.

00:54:32.000 His name is Zoltan Istvan.

00:54:34.000 So that should be an interesting third hour.

00:54:37.000 Again, I want to go back to what's going on in Europe.

00:54:40.000 And again, it's Sweden, Germany, these wealthy countries that are rapidly declining into poverty as well as anarchy.

00:54:47.000 We have an article today on Infowars.com.

00:54:51.000 Sweden to house immigrants in Lapland Ski Resort while their own citizens suffer under a housing shortage.

00:54:59.000 As Paul Joseph Watson writes, migrants traveling to the welfare haven of Sweden will be housed in the ski resort.

00:55:05.000 The citizens will labor under the burden of a housing shortage.

00:55:08.000 He points out that the spa will offer spa treatments, massages, a swimming pool, a bubble bath, a sauna, as well as a spectacular mountain view of its bedrooms.

00:55:16.000 And the migrants will be allowed to stay at this resort until February. 0.99

00:55:20.000 Meanwhile, As they're enjoying these amenities, Swedish citizens continue to be burdened by a housing shortage, exacerbated by the large number of immigrants the country is taking in each year. 1.00

00:55:30.000 Some politicians are also urging citizens to give up their garages in order to house third-world immigrants. 1.00

00:55:37.000 Now, when they do that to us, do you think that'll be a violation of the Third Amendment?

00:55:42.000 I mean, they're not troops, but I guess you could call them troops, because they're kind of marching in like an army.

00:55:48.000 Look at this picture that we've got from the Daily Mail of a march into Western Europe.

00:55:54.000 Shocking pictures show thousands of determined men, women, and children trudging across the Balkans as politicians warn that the EU could collapse in weeks.

00:56:03.000 Look at that!

00:56:05.000 Is that, are those the troops of the New World Order?

00:56:08.000 The troops that have been brought in to collapse and reorganize society?

00:56:13.000 The troops that have been brought in to destroy the wealth and the independent sovereignty of the West so that they can have their globalist way?

00:56:22.000 Because of course that's the only thing that is standing in the way of the globalists are the nations of, or that stood in their way, were the nations of Europe and America.

00:56:30.000 And of course we see that in Sweden One of the other aspects of this is a aspect of cultural shock, they say.

00:56:38.000 This is the article from Kurt Nemo.

00:56:40.000 He says, cultural shock in Western countries where there are significant Muslim immigration is the crime rate, especially the disproportional sexual crimes against the host country's women. 0.99

00:56:50.000 In Sweden, which does not usually report the nationality of rapists, a just-released study by Swedish police revealed that Muslim men who constitute only 2% of the population are responsible for 78% of the rapes.

00:57:04.000 Once peaceful Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe, the second highest in the world, next to South Africa.

00:57:12.000 However.

00:57:13.000 And it's not just Sweden.

00:57:14.000 It's not just Germany.

00:57:16.000 It's also Copenhagen.

00:57:18.000 There's a Muslim mob attacking a police car at a Shiite festival where the Shiites hit the fan.

00:57:25.000 And you can see the video of that on this particular article.

00:57:27.000 Let's see, who is this by?

00:57:28.000 This is the Gateway Pundit.

00:57:30.000 Listen to this clip from RT that we've got.

00:57:33.000 This is a guy named Jonathan Pye.

00:57:36.000 And he's talking about what it costs to rent a room, a little cupboard, under the stairs in London.

00:57:44.000 Economics to me is, can I afford a house?

00:57:46.000 Can I afford to buy a house?

00:57:47.000 Where do you live?

00:57:48.000 London.

00:57:49.000 No.

00:57:50.000 Can I afford to rent a house?

00:57:51.000 Where do you live again?

00:57:52.000 London.

00:57:53.000 No.

00:57:54.000 What can I afford then?

00:57:56.000 A cupboard under the stairs for 500 quid a month.

00:57:59.000 Did you read that in the paper the other day?

00:58:01.000 500 quid a month for a cupboard under the stairs.

00:58:05.000 How can that possibly be a healthy housing market?

00:58:08.000 Yeah, how can that be a healthy housing market?

00:58:10.000 Welcome to the future.

00:58:13.000 That's the future they want for us.

00:58:14.000 The future of desperation, of austerity, of privation.

00:58:18.000 Because we simply cannot have a welfare state and this kind of massive immigration. 0.77

00:58:24.000 That's what you have to look forward to.

00:58:28.000 A cupboard under the stairs for 500 pounds a month.

00:58:31.000 That's probably 700, 750 dollars a month American, okay?

00:58:35.000 Stay with us.

00:58:36.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:37.000 And as I promised, we're going to talk about what's going on with Obamacare.

00:58:41.000 We'll be right back.

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01:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:33.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:35.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

01:00:36.000 I said we would go to Obamacare.

01:00:38.000 I'm actually going to hold that and do that in the next segment because we have a lot of stations that during this segment are airing news.

01:00:45.000 So let me give you some news about That's what it looks like when the economy collapses.

01:00:50.000 We just had a guy in London talking about how he had to pay 500 pounds for a cupboard under the stairs to live in.

01:00:58.000 That's not a place to live in, folks.

01:01:02.000 And again, that's about 750 U.S.

01:01:04.000 dollars.

01:01:05.000 Take a look at what's going on in Puerto Rico.

01:01:07.000 They're looking at organ transplants to cure their ailing economy.

01:01:12.000 This is coming out of Reuters.

01:01:13.000 They say Puerto Rico is trying to build its medical tourism industry from a current level of about $80 million a year to $300 million by 2017 as part of efforts to heal its chronically sick economy.

01:01:28.000 Now, listen to just how sick this is.

01:01:31.000 Puerto Rico's potential, they say, as a transplant center is partly based on a macabre statistic.

01:01:38.000 The Caribbean island has a murder and non-negligent manslaughter rate of 19.2 per 100,000 in 2014 versus 4.5 per 100,000 in the US.

01:01:44.000 So 19.2 versus 4.5.

01:01:45.000 In 2014 versus 4.5 per 100,000 in the U.S. So 19.2 versus 4.5.

01:01:53.000 In other words, over four times the number of murders per capita that they have in the U.S.

01:02:00.000 But hey, they look at that and they say, that's not a bug.

01:02:03.000 That's a feature.

01:02:05.000 We can create a soylent green economy out of that.

01:02:08.000 Bring in the scoops, okay?

01:02:10.000 This translates into a pool of donors in the 18 to 30 age range.

01:02:17.000 The donors are victims of car accidents or gunshot wounds to the head.

01:02:20.000 Yes, because Puerto Rico, they say, sadly, we have a very high crime rate.

01:02:25.000 So there you go, it's not a bug, it's a feature, and we can build an economy Off of our murder rate.

01:02:32.000 How sick is that?

01:02:35.000 That's kind of like, you know, Bernie Sanders saying, we need to mandate maternity leave because we have this enlightened place like Communist China, you know, where they literally shoot people in the head if you're part of Falun Gong or you're Christians or whatever.

01:02:51.000 I mean, they're known for doing that. 0.56

01:02:53.000 And of course, they have their forced abortions if you have more than one child. 1.00

01:02:57.000 They have a one-child policy, have had for a long time.

01:02:59.000 That has loosened up in some of the provinces now, but some of them are still extremely rigorous in enforcing a one-child policy.

01:03:08.000 So Bernie Sanders looks at this and he goes, hey, you know, we could have, you know, China, not exactly a model when it comes to human rights, provides 14 weeks of paid maternity leave. 1.00

01:03:17.000 And as this article from Kit Daniels last week pointed out, he was immediately called on that by James Wood saying, you are a moron, another moron. 1.00

01:03:26.000 They kill babies there, forced abortions and other things. 1.00

01:03:31.000 So I mean, that's...

01:03:32.000 When you don't understand the difference between positive and negative rights, as they've talked about.

01:03:38.000 And of course, people like Obama, constitutional professor, certainly did understand the difference between positive and negative rights.

01:03:45.000 He talked about it before he became president.

01:03:47.000 He said, you know, our Constitution has a system of what we would call negative rights, saying that Your rights are based on prohibitions of what government can do to you.

01:03:58.000 Those are negative rights.

01:03:59.000 And he's not the only person to use that connotation.

01:04:01.000 I think it's perfectly valid to call them positive and negative because you're prohibiting the government from doing certain things.

01:04:07.000 That was what the Constitution was set up.

01:04:09.000 To do.

01:04:10.000 It's a setup to say that we have, we possess these rights as created human beings.

01:04:16.000 We all have the same rights because we're all created by the same God and so we need to be respected because we're human and these things we possess because we're human.

01:04:25.000 So we create a government to protect those rights.

01:04:27.000 That was the essence of the Declaration of Independence.

01:04:29.000 Instead, the socialist comes in and says, no, you have a right to food, you have a right to shelter, you have a right to Education.

01:04:38.000 You have a right to maternity leave. 1.00

01:04:40.000 Those are what they call positive rights.

01:04:42.000 I have a right to take this.

01:04:43.000 The problem is that in order for a government to provide that to you, they have to take something from somebody else.

01:04:50.000 Very different than preventing the government from taking what you possess as a human being.

01:04:57.000 Stay with us.

01:04:58.000 When we come back, I promise I will talk about this new revelation of Obamacare.

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01:05:04.000 We'll be right back.

01:05:09.000 After the release of numerous videos showing questionable Planned Parenthood practices, multiple facilities have been raided.

01:05:16.000 Reuters reports, Texas officials raided several Planned Parenthood facilities on Thursday, in a move that comes days after the state's Republican leaders barred the women's health group from receiving state Medicaid money.

01:05:28.000 The Inspector General's office declined to comment, but its agents were seen on local news reports Entering a Planned Parenthood facility in San Antonio, Texas said it would launch a probe of Planned Parenthood after the release of videos in July by anti-abortion activist group Center for Medical Progress, in which a Planned Parenthood official is seen talking about transactions involving fetal tissue.

01:05:50.000 And speaking on a personal note, Planned Parenthood continues to say that the videos were edited Which they were, much like you would edit a State of the Union address down to a few soundbites, but that doesn't mean that they were taken out of context.

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01:08:17.000 Music.

01:08:19.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:08:22.000 I'm David Knight, your host on this Monday, October 26, 2015.

01:08:27.000 We'll be joined in the next hour by a transhumanist, Zoltan Istvan.

01:08:34.000 He is running for president, actually, on a transhumanist party ticket, so we're going to talk to him about What he envisions with that very unusual philosophy.

01:08:45.000 But he'll be coming up in the third hour.

01:08:47.000 We'll be talking to him.

01:08:48.000 We've actually got a video of him getting chipped on his immortality bus tour that he's going through with.

01:08:55.000 So he'll be here in studio to talk to us.

01:08:57.000 We've been talking about the Cloward and Piven twin pincers of Open borders and a massive welfare state and how that is bringing everyone down.

01:09:08.000 Who better to elect then as Speaker of the House than somebody who has promoted open borders his entire political career, even going back to being a staffer.

01:09:18.000 Somebody like Paul Ryan.

01:09:20.000 Paul Ryan-o is what we ought to call him.

01:09:24.000 And it looks like he is now going to become the next GOP power broker.

01:09:29.000 He has tapped David Hopp, somebody who also worked with him, with Jack Kemp, many years ago, way back.

01:09:38.000 He's a former advisor to Republican congressional leaders, they say, and spoken of by the Washington Post as a GOP power broker himself.

01:09:47.000 Of course, he's being supported by this now by the conservatives, people like the Heritage Foundation, people like Jim DeMint, who were supposed to be opposed to open borders.

01:09:58.000 They are backing Paul Ryan.

01:10:03.000 100% now it appears.

01:10:03.000 There's a few holdouts, people like Louie Gohmert.

01:10:06.000 Louie Gohmert said he is supporting Daniel Webster.

01:10:10.000 He says Daniel Webster, and this is a representative from Florida, he was Speaker of the House when he was in Florida.

01:10:16.000 He said, Dan is the only person I'm aware of who's been a Speaker anywhere.

01:10:20.000 He decentralized power to get it back in the hands of the members.

01:10:23.000 He says John Boehner is no longer going to be speaker because he was too powerful.

01:10:27.000 I simply cannot vote for a candidate who demands more power before he agrees to become the speaker.

01:10:33.000 That's what Paul Ryan is doing.

01:10:34.000 That's why Drudge has had links up talking about how Paul Ryan is demanding that he be crowned as king.

01:10:42.000 He's not going to make any promises to anybody.

01:10:44.000 He doesn't want any demands.

01:10:45.000 He even wants to have the ability to remove the speaker, the motion to vacate the chair.

01:10:51.000 He wants that taken away so that you can't take him out.

01:10:54.000 And that's a guy that the conservatives want to support?

01:10:58.000 I still don't understand what happened to the original motion to vacate the chair.

01:11:02.000 When they had an election coming up, they had John Boehner's number two guy, his chosen successor that he wanted to see, Kevin McCarthy.

01:11:10.000 They had two other people.

01:11:11.000 They had Daniel Webster.

01:11:13.000 They had Jason Chaffetz.

01:11:16.000 We're both going to run, and then Kevin McCarthy stood up at the beginning of the meeting and said, no, I'm not going to run, I'm withdrawing my name.

01:11:22.000 At that point, John Boehner shut down the election because his candidate wasn't running.

01:11:25.000 What is going on in Washington?

01:11:28.000 And of course, this is the third highest position in the federal government.

01:11:32.000 You've got the president, the vice president, next in line, if those two were to die, would be the Speaker of the House.

01:11:37.000 The Speaker of the House wields a great deal of power.

01:11:40.000 But we've seen John Boehner wielding it in the same way as Nancy Pelosi for the same issues.

01:11:46.000 For open border, for trade promotion, fast-tracking the trade promotion, doing this secret corporate agreement.

01:11:53.000 They are all operating the same way.

01:11:55.000 There's total agreement at the top.

01:11:57.000 That's why the White House is very excited about Paul Ryan, just like the so-called conservative organizations like Heritage Foundation with Jim DeMint.

01:12:06.000 Betraying the GOP voters.

01:12:09.000 93% of them do not want open borders.

01:12:12.000 So why does, why is Jeb Bush so surprised that he's sinking into irrelevancy?

01:12:19.000 You know, Jeb Bush came out and he said, well, you know, he had to meet this weekend with his mom and dad.

01:12:23.000 That's what Trump trolled him.

01:12:27.000 He said, here's a guy who wants to run our country.

01:12:28.000 He can't even run his own campaign.

01:12:29.000 You know what?

01:12:30.000 He's cutting back big time.

01:12:31.000 He has no money.

01:12:32.000 He's cutting.

01:12:33.000 He's meeting today with his mommy and daddy, and they're working on his campaign.

01:12:37.000 Trying to twist all of their old political connections to try to get people to continue to pour money into the Bush campaign, even though the voters don't want to have anything to do with him.

01:12:45.000 Why don't they want to have anything to do with him?

01:12:47.000 Why is Trump high in the polls?

01:12:50.000 You can see this article that we got up on Infowars.com today.

01:12:53.000 A pro-immigration protester dragged out of a Trump event by an attendee.

01:12:57.000 The supporters were chanting, USA, USA.

01:13:01.000 That's the answer.

01:13:03.000 You want to know why you're failing, Jeb Bush?

01:13:06.000 You know, people called him on it and he said, blah, blah, blah.

01:13:08.000 That's my answer to you.

01:13:09.000 Blah, blah, blah.

01:13:12.000 Trudge picked that up out of the article.

01:13:13.000 It's a great headline.

01:13:14.000 Yeah, that's his response to people.

01:13:17.000 And he says, you know, I could be doing some really cool things.

01:13:21.000 I don't need to be sitting around here, miserable, listening to people demonize me, feeling compelled to demonize them.

01:13:29.000 Well, please do.

01:13:30.000 Please do.

01:13:31.000 Go do something that's really cool.

01:13:32.000 Because you're not really a very cool candidate.

01:13:35.000 You have absolutely no respect for the wishes of the American people.

01:13:38.000 You have trumped your open border issues.

01:13:41.000 And I guess he feels like he can get away with it, because we've now got Paul Ryano being selected by conservatives and conservative organizations like the Heritage Foundation.

01:13:49.000 Pouring in behind him, even though he's obviously the most open border person you could find in the Republican side of the House.

01:13:57.000 They're going to make him Speaker.

01:13:58.000 So I guess Jeb Bush thought that he could go full out on open borders and he could win the GOP nomination. 1.00

01:14:06.000 No, it's actually the borders, stupid. 1.00

01:14:08.000 Remember when they told, back when Clinton was running, they said, it's the economy, stupid? 1.00

01:14:13.000 Well, it is the borders this time, stupid, because the borders reflect on the economy. 1.00

01:14:19.000 The open borders are going to destroy the economy. 1.00

01:14:22.000 It isn't targeted towards any particular ethnic group.

01:14:24.000 There's different ethnic groups involved in Europe than there are here in America, but the strategy is the same.

01:14:30.000 It is a strategy of open borders of a vast entitlement state, and of course Jeb Bush doesn't want to do anything to pull that back.

01:14:37.000 He says, how would I know that I'm not going to do so well in this?

01:14:41.000 I would have never guessed that the leader In the polls right now would be somebody who was, who had supported a single-payer health care system and abortions.

01:14:52.000 Talking about Trump.

01:14:53.000 Well the reality of it is, is that the GOP leadership and people like Bush have pushed for both of those things themselves.

01:15:00.000 Prescott Bush, his grandfather, is one of the founding fathers of Planned Parenthood.

01:15:05.000 We've shown you the documents where he was doing fundraising letters with Margaret Sanger.

01:15:11.000 We've shown you the documents about George H.W.

01:15:13.000 Bush, and in the first debate, when he was criticized for being on the board of directors of an organization with Bill Gates, whose dad was head of Planned Parenthood.

01:15:24.000 See, it doesn't matter.

01:15:25.000 The Republicans and Democrats at the top, they're both coming from the same issues.

01:15:30.000 They're together on the key issues, and one of those being abortion, being eugenics. 0.84

01:15:38.000 And of course, they were on the same board, and this was a board that gave Planned Parenthood $10 million.

01:15:42.000 And Jeb Bush comes back and goes, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:15:45.000 I didn't know anything about that.

01:15:47.000 I thought I was just enforcing Common Core.

01:15:51.000 A federalized, dumb-the-people-down curriculum from Washington.

01:15:55.000 I thought it was pushing Common Core.

01:15:56.000 It was like, wrong answer, thanks for playing.

01:15:59.000 But if you look at the amount of money that he said he took back, he said, we were giving him $300,000 and we stopped that.

01:16:07.000 So you understand that publicly, he ended funding the Planned Parenthood of $300,000, but privately, privately, Jeb gave them 30 times that amount of money.

01:16:18.000 So, he wants to complain about Trump being abortion, pro-abortion, single-payer healthcare system.

01:16:23.000 Maybe he is.

01:16:24.000 Maybe he is.

01:16:25.000 But at least Trump will come out and oppose them on the open borders.

01:16:29.000 And Trump may be lying to us.

01:16:30.000 We don't know if he's telling the truth or not.

01:16:31.000 We've been lied to by every one of these politicians.

01:16:34.000 They'll tell you anything they want to in order to get into office.

01:16:38.000 But at least at this point, you want to know what the success of Donald Trump is? 1.00

01:16:42.000 It's because of the borders, stupid. 1.00

01:16:45.000 That's what people are concerned about. 1.00

01:16:47.000 And let me tell you why this is an economic issue.

01:16:49.000 Let's take a look at what's going on with Obamacare.

01:16:53.000 And it's not just Obamacare, of course.

01:16:55.000 It's our educational system, too, where we've got places like Kentucky.

01:16:58.000 This is on the Drudge Report.

01:16:59.000 They have 94 different languages that they're trying to teach people in the schools.

01:17:04.000 94 in Kentucky.

01:17:08.000 How are you going to pay for that?

01:17:10.000 Well, you're going to wind up living in a little cupboard under the stairs because you're not going to be able to afford to pay the taxes to live in the kind of home that Americans have been living in.

01:17:19.000 Because it's our property taxes that pay for the educational system.

01:17:22.000 And if we're going to educate everybody in the world that comes here, if we're going to do what Bernie Sandinista wants to do, and that is to give everyone a free college education, I guess doctorate degree or whatever.

01:17:35.000 You can start at three years old and you can stay in school until you're 30.

01:17:39.000 By that time you should be a good little government clone and you'll be loaded up with debt so that when you get out of school you're going to be an indentured servant the rest of your life unless you go to work for the government.

01:17:50.000 But of course you'll love the government by then because you will have spent your entire life being propagandized by the government.

01:17:57.000 That's why they're doing it.

01:17:58.000 But it's also going to destroy the economy because they want to extend that free college tuition to anybody who comes here.

01:18:04.000 Dreamers!

01:18:06.000 Anybody who dreams of a college education can come here from any country and be educated at your expense and they will leave you homeless on the continent your fathers conquered.

01:18:18.000 That's where this is headed.

01:18:19.000 Let's talk about Obamacare.

01:18:20.000 Let's talk about just that aspect of the socialist welfare state.

01:18:25.000 Is it easy to cheat Obamacare and Medicaid?

01:18:27.000 The General Accounting Office says it's no sweat.

01:18:30.000 How easy is it to cheat Obamacare or Medicaid to receive highly subsidized federal health insurance?

01:18:37.000 Well, turns out it's very easy, according to the U.S.

01:18:40.000 General Accountability Office and its undercover operations.

01:18:44.000 All 10 fictitious Obamacare applicants who worked for GAO were approved for federal government subsidies and issued health insurance coverage, many using phony Social Security and a fictitious employer.

01:18:57.000 They don't even bother to run the social security number through their computer.

01:19:01.000 There you go.

01:19:02.000 Okay.

01:19:03.000 That's how easy it is.

01:19:04.000 Seven out of eight other applicants to Medicaid insurance were also approved, and these tests were done in New Jersey, California, Kentucky, there's Kentucky again, and North Dakota.

01:19:14.000 They did it this year to check how their current 2015 anti-fraud protections are working.

01:19:22.000 Well, I would say they're getting a big fat zero, aren't they?

01:19:25.000 You get 0% detection of fraud for Obamacare applicants and they get a whopping 12% protection for Medicaid.

01:19:34.000 That would not only be an F, that would be an F minus minus minus.

01:19:41.000 An F is like if you get like 60%, isn't it?

01:19:43.000 It's been a while since I've been in school.

01:19:45.000 This is like 0%.

01:19:47.000 And of course, they say the results were similar to a 2014 investigation, except there, they caught one of them out of 12.

01:19:54.000 So they had 8% last year, now the detection rate is 0%.

01:19:59.000 That's how easy it is to game this entitlement system.

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01:26:28.000 About Obamacare, how easy it was, according to the GAO, to defraud the system.

01:26:34.000 They had a basically zero percent chance of checking fraud.

01:26:38.000 People could give them a false social security number, a false employer name.

01:26:42.000 They didn't bother to check it.

01:26:43.000 They just signed them up for Obamacare.

01:26:46.000 But there's another side to this that is causing this system to fail.

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01:26:53.000 South Carolina Obamacare co-op flops.

01:26:55.000 Approximately 67,000 individuals and small businesses will have to find new health care coverage.

01:27:02.000 And Obamacare trend continues with an announcement to not offer health insurance in 2016.

01:27:09.000 Consumers Choice Health Insurance Company in South Carolina becomes the ninth consumer-owned and operated plan, that is a co-op.

01:27:17.000 Created under Obamacare to cease operations.

01:27:20.000 They say approximately 67,000 people will be affected by this, as I reported.

01:27:24.000 They say the recent announcement of a risk corridor reimbursement of only 12.6% is really what's taking them down economically.

01:27:34.000 They said this week's news should not be viewed as the failure of a startup, but rather closure due to unfulfilled promises.

01:27:44.000 You see, the Obama administration, they can arbitrarily change these rates.

01:27:48.000 Now they said that they have this co-op will only get $362 million out of $2.9 billion that they requested.

01:27:59.000 So they're going bankrupt.

01:28:01.000 Gee, I thought that Obamacare was supposed to help us.

01:28:04.000 No, it was designed to fail.

01:28:07.000 It is nothing more than a transitional program in order to justify what they really want in the long run.

01:28:13.000 And that is a single-payer system.

01:28:16.000 A system that is run by the government.

01:28:18.000 A system that Hillary Clinton, as First Lady, tried to shove down our throats decades ago. 1.00

01:28:26.000 And now we've got it coming down our throats very quickly.

01:28:30.000 And just in time for Hillary Clinton to become president, these Obamacare exchanges will be failing left and right. 0.92

01:28:38.000 Now, this news comes from FreedomWorks, and they say, surprise, small employers will be hit with a tax for helping employees with their health care costs.

01:28:45.000 You would think that if the government really wanted to help you with your health care costs, they wouldn't be finding employers who give you a little bit of money to help defray that, would you?

01:28:54.000 Well, see, that's never been the goal.

01:28:57.000 If that were the goal, they could have gone with medical savings accounts.

01:28:59.000 They could have, on your income tax, they could have said, deduct 100% as a tax credit.

01:29:06.000 You know, they push solar energy that way.

01:29:08.000 Why not push health care that way?

01:29:09.000 Why not say, we're going to let you pay for your health care, or even just your health insurance, before you send your money to Washington?

01:29:17.000 No, they don't do that.

01:29:19.000 If you've looked at itemizing your deductions, you know that you've got to get up to a pretty high threshold level before you can deduct any of your medical expenses.

01:29:27.000 You have to exceed a very high percentage of your income, and then those are simply deductions, they're not credits.

01:29:32.000 I mean, if you're getting solar power, you can deduct 30% of what you spend on solar power, but no deductions for this, and it gets worse.

01:29:39.000 Businesses with fewer than 50 employees that would be exempt from being forced to have Obamacare, if they help their employees cover the cost of their health insurance program, listen to what they'll get.

01:29:48.000 $100 per day per employee fine.

01:29:50.000 That would be $36,000 for one employee that would be fined for helping people with their insurance.

01:29:55.000 No, they don't want you to have insurance.

01:29:57.000 They want this to fail so they can take it over.

01:29:59.000 We're on the march.

01:30:00.000 The empire's on the run.

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01:30:11.000 Did you know that half of all Americans make less than $30,000 a year?

01:30:15.000 New government data also reveals that 40% of Americans are making less than $20,000 annually, which is well below the poverty level for a family of four.

01:30:22.000 And, according to the Daily Caller, this new data doesn't take into account the 8 million Americans who are unemployed, or the tens of millions of Americans who gave up trying to find a job.

01:30:31.000 In fact, we're now experiencing the lowest participation rate since 1977.

01:30:36.000 This means that America's middle class is systematically being destroyed, and this is intentional. 0.91

01:30:41.000 Niccolò Machiavelli, a 16th century pioneer on statescraft, once said that it was in the government's best interest to keep its citizens poor.

01:30:48.000 But why?

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01:33:32.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

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01:33:58.000 She's now 43 years old.

01:34:01.000 There's an article on the BBC about her undergoing Treatment, hopefully a laser treatment, that might get rid of the pain that she has been suffering.

01:34:13.000 I'm sorry, she's not 43 years old.

01:34:15.000 It was 43 years ago she was nine years old.

01:34:18.000 For 43 years she has been in pain from having napalm dumped on her as a nine-year-old girl.

01:34:26.000 See, that's the face of war.

01:34:28.000 And I want to play that report for you, and then I want to read you something from the Daily Beast that made me absolutely disgusted.

01:34:37.000 Here's that report about this napalm girl. 1.00

01:34:41.000 A photo which in a split second captured the horror of Vietnam.

01:34:46.000 A nine-year-old girl caught in a napalm attack.

01:34:50.000 The unbearable pain etched on her young face.

01:34:54.000 Four decades on and Kim Phuc arrives in America excited at the prospect of new treatment for the injuries she suffered.

01:35:02.000 43 years.

01:35:03.000 That I suffered so much from the pain.

01:35:07.000 Last night I couldn't sleep.

01:35:08.000 So we'll see how it goes tomorrow, yeah?

01:35:10.000 I cannot wait.

01:35:12.000 Why are you crying?

01:35:12.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 So happy.

01:35:14.000 Yeah.

01:35:17.000 And here to meet her at Miami Airport, the very man who took that famous photograph.

01:35:22.000 An image which won Nick Utt a Pulitzer Prize.

01:35:25.000 That's all beautiful, look at him.

01:35:28.000 Hi, Kim.

01:35:35.000 Nice to see you.

01:35:36.000 A leading skin specialist has offered Kim free treatment after hearing her story.

01:35:41.000 A third of her body was scarred.

01:35:43.000 People with much less severe burns have died.

01:35:46.000 She's in a lot of pain all the time for the last 40 years.

01:35:49.000 Our number one goal is to get Kim out of pain so she can go on and return to her life.

01:35:54.000 It's hoped this laser surgery will soften scar tissue and, crucially, relieve the pain Kim has suffered every day.

01:36:01.000 Kim, you're doing amazing.

01:36:02.000 If you need a break, tell us.

01:36:03.000 Once again, the photographer is there to capture the moment.

01:36:07.000 You know, I hope the doctor can help her.

01:36:12.000 The first treatment is deemed a success.

01:36:14.000 Well done!

01:36:15.000 I feel much better about spiritual.

01:36:19.000 I'm really, really looking... I'm so excited and I'm so happy all the time.

01:36:26.000 There's still a long way to go though.

01:36:28.000 Kim may need half a dozen further sessions. 0.84

01:36:31.000 A little girl whose image shocked so many 40 years ago is now a woman inspiring another generation with her optimism and love of life.

01:36:42.000 There you go, she has conquered the people who would conquer her.

01:36:45.000 Yeah, we can think people like Robert McNamara, LBJ, the military-industrial complex, that's the fruit of what these people produce.

01:36:54.000 And I said there was an article that made me want to throw up from the Daily Beast.

01:36:59.000 And here's the title of it.

01:37:00.000 She kills people from 7,800 miles away. 0.99

01:37:04.000 Her name is Sparkle. 0.61

01:37:05.000 She operates a drone. 0.64

01:37:07.000 She's sick of whiny boys. 0.98

01:37:08.000 She's perfectly okay with dealing out death. 0.99

01:37:12.000 There you go. 0.85

01:37:13.000 Murder is cool when it's done by a macho female, when it's done by remote control 7,800 miles away. 1.00

01:37:20.000 Because, you know, then you don't have to see that uncomfortable picture of the little girl.

01:37:26.000 With her skin burning from napalm.

01:37:28.000 Yeah, you can just do your fire and forget. 0.98

01:37:31.000 You know, and this article is absolutely disgusting.

01:37:35.000 And they say, these plan strikes that they execute, they talk about her day, they make a big deal out of it.

01:37:40.000 What a wonderful thing it is that you've got this female who's conducting war from 7,800 miles away. 1.00

01:37:49.000 Isn't that a great thing?

01:37:50.000 They walk you through her daily routine and what they do.

01:37:53.000 They talk about their plan strikes and they say, They aren't the only, the planned strikes aren't the only RPA strikes.

01:38:00.000 also uses quote-unquote signature strikes.

01:38:00.000 The U.S.

01:38:04.000 Ones in which guys like Spade can pull the trigger if a target merely behaves like a terrorist.

01:38:11.000 You don't need to have any reason to kill somebody.

01:38:14.000 I just assumed that they were looking terrorist-like.

01:38:18.000 They were making movements like a terrorist.

01:38:20.000 What kind of movements does a terrorist make?

01:38:23.000 You know, we saw the video that they're after Julian Assange for when he and Manning, you know, Manning leaked it and WikiLeaks published it.

01:38:33.000 We saw them shooting people who were walking around.

01:38:37.000 This guy looked like a terrorist because he had a camera with him.

01:38:42.000 He was a cameraman.

01:38:44.000 So they shot these people up, and when the ambulance arrived, they shot the ambulance up, and they were laughing about it on the tape, and Manning leaked that tape, and WikiLeaks put that out to the public.

01:38:55.000 And, of course, nobody got punished for that, did they?

01:38:58.000 Because that's a great thing, if you do that kind of stuff.

01:39:01.000 They say, in these cases, it's much harder to be sure that an attack isn't hitting the wrong person, or won't end a civilian life in the process.

01:39:08.000 You know what?

01:39:09.000 The biggest recruitment program we have for jihadi terrorists is our drone strike program. 0.99

01:39:16.000 It is absolutely insane.

01:39:18.000 But it is doing what it was designed to do.

01:39:22.000 Doing what it was designed to do.

01:39:24.000 To increase the killing, to increase the war, to increase the chaos, so they can justify more military spending from the people at DARPA and the rest of the military-industrial complex.

01:39:36.000 When we look at the military-industrial complex, when we look at the drone war, of course there was that article, that large exposé of slides from The Intercept that were published last week.

01:39:47.000 And they followed up on that, because there was a lot of data to try to go through with that.

01:39:51.000 And again, we pointed out, yeah, we all know about that, just like we all knew about the Snowden leaks well before they happened, well before the Snowden leaks, the Snowden documents came out.

01:40:02.000 We had been warned by NSA whistleblowers, people like William Binney, people like Thomas Drake, and others that we've had on the show.

01:40:08.000 Many times we were told of what they were doing, but people needed to see the documents.

01:40:13.000 Perhaps, maybe it'll make a change if people see these documents that have been released about the drone strikes.

01:40:18.000 But they focused on one of these documents.

01:40:21.000 And they wrote another article about just one of these PowerPoint presentations.

01:40:26.000 Drones, IBM, and the Big Data of Death.

01:40:31.000 And they say, well, if you're going to look at just one of these, take a look at the one that is ISR Support to Small Footprint CT Operations in Somalia and Yemen.

01:40:41.000 It was produced for the Defense Department in 2013 by consultants from IBM.

01:40:47.000 And here's how they summarize this.

01:40:49.000 They say it's a rare, peculiar, cultural artifact that opens a window into the deep guts of the military-industrial complex where the technologies of assassination and corporate sales converge.

01:41:02.000 All described in languages dead as the target of an ISR platform, kinetic engagement.

01:41:08.000 Yeah, because kinetic engagement, that's...

01:41:11.000 You know, shooting and fighting, that sort of thing.

01:41:13.000 They call those kinetic engagements.

01:41:14.000 Those are different than the unconventional warfare, the propaganda, the lies that they conduct on you.

01:41:19.000 And of course they're doing that not just on other countries, but they do that here domestically.

01:41:24.000 And so what they're saying is, this is exactly like And let me read you this next quote.

01:41:29.000 As you can examine in this secret ISR study, you'll see that the Pentagon's drone program uses data analytics in almost precisely the same way that IBM encourages corporations to use it to track their customers.

01:41:42.000 The only significant difference comes at the end of the drone process where the customer is killed.

01:41:50.000 Yeah.

01:41:51.000 It's an end around the process.

01:41:54.000 End around our protections.

01:41:56.000 And this is all, as we pointed out many times, this is all part of the pre-crime programs that we need to be so concerned about.

01:42:03.000 Again, I'll go back to this article from the end of last week that we had on InfoWars.com.

01:42:07.000 The UK goes full Orwell.

01:42:09.000 Government will take children away from parents if they think they might become radicalized.

01:42:15.000 And they go through some recent court decisions, and of course these are aimed at Islamists in the UK.

01:42:23.000 And they are going to establish this precedent by going after them.

01:42:27.000 But you need to understand that when they came out with this Strong Cities Network, when that was introduced by the Department of Justice, by the Attorney General of the United Nations, and it's being run by a European think tank, and that European think tank was just like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

01:42:44.000 If you read their papers, they could be written by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

01:42:48.000 You won't find anything in the Strong Cities Initiative.

01:42:53.000 That is talking about Islamic terrorists except to push back against the notion and call it Islamophobia.

01:43:00.000 No, they're concerned with people who are anti-immigration.

01:43:03.000 They're concerned with people who are anti-Islam.

01:43:05.000 Those are the people they consider to be radical extremists.

01:43:10.000 But understand how this is going to work in the UK.

01:43:13.000 Right now, they're focusing on Muslims.

01:43:16.000 And they say, in other words, the high court judges within the family division are now tasked with determining whether children will be made wards of the state based solely on suspicions of possible radicalization.

01:43:29.000 Children will be torn from their mothers and fathers in Muslim homes, and then later they will be torn from the homes of people that they consider to be right-wing extremists.

01:43:39.000 And that will all be subject to the whims and the inherently flawed watch of the larger citizenry.

01:43:45.000 The citizenry that has been put to sleep.

01:43:48.000 That's what we have to look forward to.

01:43:52.000 We need to carefully vet our leaders.

01:43:54.000 We need to understand how they lie to us, how they use false flags to begin wars.

01:43:58.000 And as I was talking about these admissions from Tony Blair, which aren't admissions at all, he came out and said, you know, I'm sorry that I was given bad data.

01:44:08.000 Sorry, sorry, not my fault.

01:44:09.000 Mistakes were made and they weren't my mistakes, is what he said.

01:44:12.000 Some headlines in the Daily Mail, faux sincerity, weasel words, the spin king strikes again, Michael Burley talks about Tony Blair's controversial Iraq war apology.

01:44:24.000 And that's precisely what I was saying yesterday.

01:44:26.000 It's one of the most weasel-y apologies you could ever see.

01:44:30.000 And of course we know that it isn't even blowback that created ISIS.

01:44:34.000 We know that they are a tool of the CIA and as I talked about at great length yesterday, We know that ISIS and the Islamic State, a transnational caliphate, that idea was being sold by a radical Turkish imam, Fethullah Gulen, who now runs over a thousand schools worldwide. 0.73

01:44:55.000 One of the largest networks of charter schools in the United States.

01:44:58.000 Half a billion dollars worth of money, federal money, goes to Fethullah Gulen to run these Islamic schools.

01:45:04.000 He was kicked out of Turkey because he was pushing an Islamic state, a caliphate, in 1999.

01:45:12.000 Sixteen years ago, he was pushing that idea.

01:45:15.000 And you want a CIA connection?

01:45:17.000 How did he get into the United States?

01:45:18.000 There were people in the government that didn't want him to come in, but the CIA gave him letters of recommendation to get into the United States.

01:45:26.000 So yeah, the CIA has been equipping and training and creating Al Qaeda and ISIS, and they are creating the educational institutions that will create the next generation of ISIS as well.

01:45:39.000 Let's take a look at prohibition.

01:45:41.000 And when we look at prohibition, we need to look at not only drug prohibition, but gun prohibition.

01:45:47.000 Until people understand that you don't allow the government to keep you from taking whatever you want to put in your body, or Forcing you to put something in your body without your consent, without your informed consent, as Ben Carson supports both of those.

01:46:03.000 He supports prohibiting people from taking drugs.

01:46:06.000 Many of the drugs that they would take, like medical marijuana, people believe and have good studies to show that it would help them, help their health, but he wants to deny that to people.

01:46:15.000 On the other hand, he likes vaccines, so he supports the government forcing you to take vaccines without your informed consent.

01:46:23.000 But then he likes guns, so he doesn't want the government to prohibit guns.

01:46:28.000 And then you've got Michelle Obama, who wants to tell people what they can eat, students what they can eat in their schools.

01:46:33.000 Do you understand?

01:46:35.000 You don't get to make those kind of mandates, and you're either going to swallow all the prohibitions and lose all of your freedoms, or you're going to allow other people to have the freedom to do what they want, without shoving it down their throat.

01:46:51.000 That's what Ben Carson doesn't realize.

01:46:53.000 When Ben Carson says, we need to be consistent, he goes, hey, look at these people who want to take your guns, they're the ones who want to let people have drugs, you know?

01:46:59.000 Where's the consistency in that?

01:47:01.000 And it's like, yeah, you're right, it's not consistent, and neither is his position.

01:47:04.000 We need to have a position that consistently supports Our individual freedom of choice.

01:47:10.000 Our individual rights.

01:47:12.000 We have a system.

01:47:13.000 We just don't use it.

01:47:14.000 That system is called the Constitution.

01:47:16.000 It's called the Bill of Rights.

01:47:18.000 But nobody wants to pay any attention to it, apparently.

01:47:21.000 We need to bring the left and the right together on these issues.

01:47:25.000 We need to get them to understand that the principles about drug prohibition are the same as the principles about gun prohibition.

01:47:31.000 And take a look at where this is going.

01:47:33.000 Can't the conservatives understand that we have destroyed so many of our foundations of our society?

01:47:39.000 We've destroyed the foundations of private property.

01:47:41.000 Look at this article.

01:47:43.000 This is from truthvoice.com.

01:47:46.000 They say court rules that cops were wrong to seize a car over $20 of weed.

01:47:51.000 They say for nearly three years, Linda Ross, 26, has been fighting the seizure of her vehicle, which police took after finding a small amount of marijuana inside.

01:47:58.000 They found the possession of one gram of weed in a two-to-one decision.

01:48:03.000 A majority in a court that she appealed to wrote that because a customer had supposedly given her the weed as a tip for a pizza delivery, that she hadn't actually driven her car with the intent of purchasing drugs.

01:48:14.000 The vehicle wasn't subject to forfeiture.

01:48:16.000 But guess what?

01:48:17.000 The police aren't giving it back.

01:48:20.000 They like to steal property. 0.68

01:48:21.000 That's what the Civil Asset Forfeiture Program is all about.

01:48:25.000 We've talked about this many times.

01:48:27.000 And you don't even have to have any connection to this.

01:48:30.000 It could be somebody that was in your car that you weren't driving the car.

01:48:34.000 They could have your high school student. 0.84

01:48:37.000 Could be driving a car.

01:48:38.000 He could have a friend in the back who had a joint in his pocket.

01:48:40.000 They could confiscate your car that your son was driving because one of his friends in the back seat had remnants of marijuana in his pocket.

01:48:49.000 That's how insane this is.

01:48:50.000 Because they don't have to take you to court.

01:48:52.000 They don't have to find you guilty.

01:48:54.000 They don't even have to charge you with a crime.

01:48:56.000 But now it's getting even worse.

01:48:57.000 We've talked about this many times, but look at where this is headed.

01:49:00.000 We don't stop this, so it gets even worse.

01:49:02.000 Cops are now using prepaid card readers to rob motorists of digital funds on the roadside.

01:49:10.000 Civil asset forfeiture is coming under increased criticism around the country, they say, as the immoral nature of the drug war weapon becomes exposed.

01:49:18.000 Civil asset forfeiture, again, is nothing but outright theft.

01:49:22.000 Innocent people have their cash and their assets taken.

01:49:25.000 No conviction of crime.

01:49:26.000 They just steal it right there on the side of the road.

01:49:28.000 And of course, New Mexico has been one of the first states to make meaningful reforms because it was a very high-profile case of some people driving away from Vegas.

01:49:36.000 They had won some cash.

01:49:38.000 The highway patrol knew that they were coming out of Vegas, thought they might have some cash, and it was a scam that they set up with multiple law enforcement agencies, robbed these people of their cash.

01:49:52.000 I think they might have taken their car.

01:49:52.000 I can't remember.

01:49:53.000 But listen to this.

01:49:54.000 This is the new twist.

01:49:55.000 The Electronic Recovery and Access to Data program.

01:49:58.000 Prepaid card reader.

01:50:00.000 E-RAD.

01:50:01.000 This tool, developed by the Department of Homeland Security, is increasingly being deployed by local police departments.

01:50:06.000 E-RAD allows cops to swipe prepaid cards, check the balance, freeze the account, and steal the money.

01:50:14.000 How's that?

01:50:15.000 You know, and the reason for that, the justification for that is because, you know, drug traffickers are using prepaid cards while they're traveling instead of taking bundles of cash.

01:50:23.000 So, they would take your cash because, you know, drug dealers sometimes use cash.

01:50:28.000 Or they take your car because, you know, sometimes drug dealers use cars.

01:50:31.000 Now they're going to take your bank account because sometimes drug dealers use bank accounts.

01:50:36.000 You know, they're going to take your freedom because sometimes drug users use their freedom.

01:50:41.000 They're going to take your due process because sometimes our jails aren't full enough.

01:50:47.000 When are you going to have enough of this, America? 1.00

01:50:49.000 When are you going to say, we're not going to allow the police to be robbers?

01:50:54.000 This is nothing but outright theft.

01:50:57.000 Highway robbery.

01:50:59.000 Literally, literally, literally.

01:51:01.000 Stay with us, we'll be back.

01:51:02.000 Oh, one more thing!

01:51:04.000 5.7% goes to the company that runs the program.

01:51:06.000 How's that?

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01:51:08.000 We'll be right back.

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01:54:07.000 DefenderShield.com I'm David Knight, your host on this Monday, October 26, 2015.

01:54:21.000 We're going to be joined in the next hour by Zoltan Istvan.

01:54:27.000 He is the transhumanist who is running for president.

01:54:31.000 He's here with his immortality bus tour, and we're going to talk to him about getting a chip and some of the other things that he's done.

01:54:39.000 It should be an interesting interview that's going to be coming up in the next hour.

01:54:42.000 I want to get back to the news.

01:54:45.000 The report that we showed you earlier of a drone showing the massive march of refugees in Slovenia.

01:54:52.000 We have an article up on Infowars.com, Curt Nemo, that shows that in detail.

01:54:56.000 A drone video shows a huge column Of illegal immigrants in Slovenia.

01:55:00.000 Slovenia Prime Minister says that the crisis may destroy the European Union.

01:55:04.000 This is dramatic footage captured by a drone.

01:55:07.000 It shows a large column, an amazing amount of people marching in a column.

01:55:12.000 Look at that when you see that.

01:55:14.000 This is absolutely amazing.

01:55:16.000 This is what is going to bring down the West.

01:55:18.000 And it's by design.

01:55:20.000 You open up a massive entitlement state, that's what we spent the first hour talking about, a massive entitlement state, and you couple that with open borders, and you can run the economy over the cliff with your foot on the accelerator, just like Thelma and Louise.

01:55:38.000 It wasn't Thelma and Louise, but it was Cloward and Piven, a couple of sociologists who proposed doing precisely that back in the 1960s.

01:55:45.000 We also have an article Uh, that's just gone up from Kit Daniels pointing out that Hillary Clinton, of course today is her 60th birthday.

01:55:56.000 It's really funny, Matt Drudge had a picture of a birthday cake that was just covered with burning birthday candles.

01:56:03.000 I mean, you couldn't even see the top of the cake.

01:56:05.000 Crammed in there.

01:56:06.000 And said, Happy Birthday, Hillary.

01:56:09.000 Suddenly reminding us just how old Hillary Clinton is.

01:56:12.000 Well, as Kit Daniels points out, Hillary Clinton would be the second oldest person, if elected, only Ronald Reagan.

01:56:23.000 Well, the problem with Hillary Clinton is not so much her age as it is the age of her ideas.

01:56:30.000 Both she and Bernie Sanders have some of the oldest ideas, thoroughly discredited ideas that you'll find out there.

01:56:38.000 Yes, they are dyed-in-the-wool government socialists who want to mandate and control everything.

01:56:43.000 They're the most anti-choice people you could ever imagine.

01:56:46.000 Of course, they call themselves pro-choice.

01:56:47.000 Isn't that interesting?

01:56:48.000 They call themselves pro-choice.

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01:57:39.000 It was interesting to see Ben Carson come out and make his pronouncements that he's going to essentially ignore the Tenth Amendment and double down on the war on drugs, you know, just like Chris Christie.

01:57:50.000 It's a traditional Republican position.

01:57:53.000 You know, we're told that Ben Carson is an outsider, but if you look at his position, there is absolutely nothing unusual at all about any of the issues that he takes.

01:58:02.000 He's not taking the side of freedom on anything.

01:58:04.000 It's a typical boilerplate GOP platform.

01:58:08.000 Could have gone to platform.com, checked the GOP button, and print out what he's going to run for and stick that on his website.

01:58:17.000 It is, you know, he may not be anybody who's ever been elected for president before, but it is exactly the same thing.

01:58:22.000 Now he's comparing abortion to owning slaves.

01:58:25.000 And he's exactly right in the sense that he says, you can tell if you're the master, you can tell the slave to do whatever you want to and they have to do it.

01:58:32.000 Well, apply that to his position on informed consent.

01:58:36.000 He thinks he's your master.

01:58:38.000 He can tell you to take vaccines and there's nothing you can do about it because you're going to be his slave.

01:58:44.000 We'll be right back.

01:58:45.000 Stay with us.

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02:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:34.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:35.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

02:00:37.000 We're going to be joined in the next segment by Zoltan Istvan, a transhumanist who is running for president and he is here with his immortality bus and he's going to tell us about getting a chip and his plans on why he wants to run as a transhumanist for president.

02:00:54.000 Should be an interesting interview.

02:00:55.000 We'll be beginning that in the next segment.

02:00:57.000 In this segment, I wanted to go over some of the last news items that we had.

02:01:02.000 Of course, we all know that millions of students are fleeing Michelle Obama's lunch program.

02:01:08.000 You know, just like Hillary Clinton, who decided that as first lady she had the power to take over the medical community when Bill Clinton was president. 1.00

02:01:16.000 She was going to impose upon everybody a single-payer system, because we all know that monopolies are more efficient than competition, don't we? 1.00

02:01:25.000 Only in the imagination of a socialist.

02:01:29.000 But that's what she tried to do.

02:01:30.000 And now they're taking a longer view towards that, creating mandates for Obamacare, and then deliberately setting this up so that it's going to fail and people are going to have to go to the single-payer system, which is what they wanted to, that was their goal all along.

02:01:46.000 But of course, we see now Michelle Obama, as First Lady, decides that she should be the one who decides what your children eat.

02:01:53.000 Where do these people get these ideas?

02:01:58.000 What makes them think that they are king of the universe?

02:02:02.000 Especially if they're first lady. 1.00

02:02:04.000 We didn't even vote for Hillary or Michelle Obama as first lady.

02:02:07.000 What makes them think they can dictate to us in this way?

02:02:10.000 Of course, children are not eating this.

02:02:12.000 We've had multiple reports about how a school district See, where was that?

02:02:18.000 Was that Montana?

02:02:19.000 I think they said we don't want $180,000 worth of federal money because we're losing even more money than that in our school lunch program.

02:02:29.000 And that's been happening all over the country.

02:02:30.000 Now here's a story out of Fox News, out of New Hampshire, and they say the bureaucracy has run amok.

02:02:37.000 A school dumps a federal lunch program and then is then deemed to be a processing plant.

02:02:44.000 This is nothing but federal gangsterism.

02:02:46.000 Listen to this.

02:02:47.000 Nathan Greenberg believes that he runs a school district, but federal government bureaucrats look at his Londonderry, New Hampshire operation and see a food processing plant.

02:02:57.000 They say that's a strange dilemma the 5,000 student district finds itself in after deciding at the end of last school year to pull the high school out of the unpopular national school lunch program.

02:03:10.000 Why would we ever, ever have a national school lunch program?

02:03:16.000 Why would you ever let one person decide what everybody else in the country is going to eat?

02:03:21.000 That's absolute insanity.

02:03:23.000 It's set up to fail.

02:03:25.000 And of course, many people, many nutritionists have talked about how her lunch programs are not healthy.

02:03:29.000 But he says, we saw the federally mandated food go right into the garbage.

02:03:33.000 We had some of the healthiest trash cans in the state of New Hampshire.

02:03:36.000 Well, not actually.

02:03:38.000 Actually, they were very high in carbs and other things.

02:03:42.000 She focuses on a couple of things like salt and sugar that she doesn't like, but then she puts all kinds of processed garbage into the food program that she has there because, you know, corporate sponsors. 1.00

02:03:53.000 Anyway, so how did the federal government retaliate?

02:03:57.000 Department of Agriculture came back and said, well, we think that you are a food processing plant, and started to regulate them for that.

02:03:57.000 Well, the U.S.

02:04:08.000 See, that's the kind of gangster activities that we see from the government.

02:04:14.000 You tell them that you don't want to do something in one area and they come back and they clobber you with that.

02:04:19.000 That's why there's a Tenth Amendment Foundation, Tenth Amendment Center, with an article saying, America has become exactly what the founders sought to destroy.

02:04:28.000 They say over the last 90 years or so, the U.S.

02:04:30.000 has been transformed into the very thing the founding generation of this country fought to destroy.

02:04:37.000 We learn in history classes and school that the American revolutionaries rejected the notion of a king, but that's what we have now.

02:04:44.000 We have a king, we have a queen, we have bureaucracies who, as I pointed out before, are free to write their own laws, they create their own military or their own police force to assess the fines that they do, and then they drag you into their own court where you have no presumption of innocence.

02:05:01.000 They have literally sent swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

02:05:07.000 That's what we have today.

02:05:08.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

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02:05:11.000 Gun deaths are down 30% since 1993.

02:05:13.000 That's right, all gun deaths including murders, suicides, police shootings, and accidental shootings have dropped nearly a third.

02:05:20.000 In between 1993 and 2000, the firearm murder rate dropped by almost half.

02:05:24.000 But guess what?

02:05:25.000 California, which has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, leads the nation in murders, according to the Washington Examiner.

02:05:32.000 And generally speaking, the most violent cities in the country have the most severe gun restrictions.

02:05:36.000 That isn't that surprising.

02:05:37.000 I mean, if you're out committing violent crimes, do you really want your victims shooting back?

02:05:40.000 So isn't it ironic, then, that the mainstream media and the Obama administration are currently pushing for more gun control?

02:05:45.000 President Obama is even considering enacting gun control via executive order.

02:05:49.000 But not only is that illegal, it's also dictatorial.

02:05:52.000 Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay called that an impeachable offense.

02:05:56.000 In an interview with Newsmax, he said it's time for the House to start letting the people know that this is a lawless president.

02:06:00.000 And that's true.

02:06:01.000 An imperial president isn't just a threat to our Second Amendment rights, but all of our freedoms. 0.71

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02:08:27.000 Well, so does he.

02:08:28.000 Live from the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.

02:08:36.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:38.000 I'm David Knight, your host on this Monday, October 26, 2015.

02:08:42.000 Joining me in the studio is Zoltan Isfan.

02:08:45.000 He is founder of the Transhumanist Party.

02:08:48.000 You are now, Zoltan, taking a bus tour, is that right?

02:08:51.000 You're going across country with your, I think it's the Immortality Bus, is that what it's called?

02:08:56.000 Indeed, it is a bus that looks essentially just like a coffin, and we're trying to provoke a conversation about life extension.

02:09:05.000 Okay, alright.

02:09:07.000 And we've got a video, and I want to run this video and ask you about what you're doing with this and why you would do this.

02:09:13.000 We've got a video of you getting a chip put in.

02:09:16.000 Are you guys ready to roll that video?

02:09:17.000 Can we do that?

02:09:18.000 Okay, let's roll that video.

02:09:22.000 You have the chip already built into the thing?

02:09:24.000 Yep, it's already in the injector.

02:09:26.000 So it's sterilized and ready to go.

02:09:30.000 Yeah.

02:09:31.000 There we go.

02:09:36.000 See that little pop feeling?

02:09:37.000 That was nothing.

02:09:38.000 Now you hear what I'm talking about.

02:09:40.000 Yeah, it's been much worse over the last few days.

02:09:44.000 How long ago was this?

02:09:46.000 About five weeks ago.

02:09:47.000 It's a pretty big needle.

02:09:52.000 It's hard to show.

02:09:53.000 Look, there's some blood.

02:09:55.000 But it's a 60-second procedure.

02:09:57.000 In fact, maybe it's a 10-second procedure done quickly.

02:10:02.000 It hurts more than a normal knee.

02:10:05.000 That's for sure.

02:10:07.000 And they're putting that in your hand, for people who are listening on the radio.

02:10:10.000 They're putting a chip in your hand.

02:10:13.000 Indeed, yes.

02:10:14.000 And what is this chip going to do?

02:10:15.000 Well, it's very rudimentary, honestly.

02:10:17.000 It doesn't really do much.

02:10:18.000 But, for example, with the bus, if you have the right software and the right technology, you can start your bus by waving your hand over the ignition instead of having a key.

02:10:28.000 Or, for example, to get into the Alex Jones Studio, you could just swipe your hand at the security and that would let you ride in.

02:10:35.000 In the future, though, it's going to be able to do things like you can pay with it, it'll monitor your temperature, your hydration levels, and maybe even tell you whether you're getting enough iron from broccoli or something like that.

02:10:47.000 So it's going to do a lot of different things like that.

02:10:50.000 And of course, the government can also track your position all the time.

02:10:53.000 So that is absolutely a concern.

02:10:55.000 It's a concern of mine.

02:10:57.000 But at the same time, you know, I'm sort of like the iPhone or the smartphones.

02:11:02.000 You know, I guess there's a trade-off between your surveillance and security issues versus the government kind of prying into your life.

02:11:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:11:09.000 That's always a trade-off.

02:11:10.000 And you know, I was one of the first people to get an iPhone.

02:11:14.000 I got the very first iPhone on the very first day.

02:11:16.000 I love technology.

02:11:19.000 And I gotta say, when I'm finished with this contract, I'm going back to some kind of a burner phone, because I'm just fed up with the surveillance state.

02:11:29.000 And so I'm willing, now I've looked at this and it's like, I will put up with a lot of inconvenience for my privacy, because I think that's something that I don't want to give up.

02:11:37.000 But let me ask you about health concerns.

02:11:39.000 Aren't you concerned about the health issues of having that there?

02:11:42.000 Because there's been some reports of animals who've gotten these kinds of chips and developed tumors at the site.

02:11:48.000 This is something you put in fairly recently.

02:11:50.000 There hasn't been a lot of history with these kind of chip implants.

02:11:55.000 Are you concerned about possible health effects?

02:11:57.000 So, yes, I am.

02:11:58.000 But so far, at least in the biohacker community, I haven't heard of anything negative specifically with anyone that has received this chip.

02:12:05.000 Now, it's really the size of a grain of rice.

02:12:08.000 It's tiny.

02:12:10.000 That said, I do want to say, you know, my wife is a surgeon and she said, you know, you do need to be cautious that what if this got free and went into the bloodstream and clogged an artery or something.

02:12:19.000 So there are dangers like that.

02:12:20.000 However, I have not heard of one like that.

02:12:23.000 And I think a lot of people bring up a lot of the dangers.

02:12:26.000 But so far there's very little evidence that would prove contrary to this.

02:12:31.000 Again, not that many people have had it and I'm very happy that I did it.

02:12:34.000 I would probably do another one.

02:12:35.000 I'm a big advocate for cranial implants.

02:12:37.000 You know, as you may know, there's about half a million people in the world right now that have cranial implants, brain implants.

02:12:43.000 Most of them are cochlear implants that help with deafness so that people can hear.

02:12:48.000 But some are already working towards epilepsy or working to help with Alzheimer's.

02:12:52.000 So I think the era of implants is coming.

02:12:55.000 And it's not, you know, even though I got this tiny thing in my hand, we're talking on the next 10 years, many people are going to be doing this.

02:13:02.000 It's a multibillion dollar industry.

02:13:04.000 And the real question is, how can we get the public to feel secure with them?

02:13:08.000 And especially, how can we make sure the government doesn't abuse it?

02:13:11.000 And of course, part of that is informed consent.

02:13:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:14.000 I mean, personally, if I'm looking at this, I want to know that there's enough of a history with something, anything that I put in my body, whether it's an implant or whether it's a vaccine or, you know, anything that is new.

02:13:25.000 I want to know what the history of this is.

02:13:27.000 I want to see the studies.

02:13:28.000 I want to see studies that have been done by people besides the people who created the device or who created the vaccine to know if it is something that's safe.

02:13:36.000 And the important part of that is not only the informed part of that, but it's also the consent part of that.

02:13:41.000 As somebody who is running in a political party, would you support mandatory implants of people?

02:13:49.000 No, of course not.

02:13:51.000 But what I would support is development from the government, you know, putting real money into it.

02:13:57.000 For example, through Obama's Brain Initiative, $70 million is now going to DARPA, and they are trying to develop a chip to help with depression from soldiers coming back from wars and conflict zones.

02:14:08.000 And I think that's an excellent use of, you know, cranial implants, is to try to cure something like depression.

02:14:14.000 Do you really believe that that's the mission of DARPA?

02:14:17.000 No, no, I'm just saying that's one of the things.

02:14:19.000 Seriously, I mean, DARPA has used these kinds of things, benign uses, and come up with it and said, you know, we just want these killer robots because we might have to go into a nuclear power plant like Fukushima someday.

02:14:30.000 If you go back and you look at the history of DARPA, there's an excellent book, Alex has interviewed the author, Andy Jacobson, The Pentagon's Brain, going back to the 1950s, the 1960s.

02:14:39.000 I mean, DARPA is there to create weapon systems.

02:14:43.000 They're not there to help people.

02:14:44.000 And, you know, when I look at these brain These brain initiatives that DARPA is part of, I have to remember that after World War II, after the Korean War, they were doing frontal lobotomies on people.

02:14:56.000 Massive frontal lobotomies, the Pentagon was doing.

02:14:58.000 You got PTSD, we'll give you a frontal lobotomy.

02:15:01.000 This allows them to do this electronically, not having to use, you know, in a much cleaner way, okay?

02:15:08.000 So, I mean, again, it comes down to the element of trust, and the whole fact that DARPA would come out with these programs and put a beard on it and say, oh, this is for peaceful, benign use, I just don't buy it.

02:15:21.000 Well, and I understand your worries, and of course you're older than me, so you've seen more of the history of DARPA, but at the same time, I think we are really just talking about depression for soldiers, so it's hard to see how that could go wrong.

02:15:32.000 Now, I do understand about the war machines, you're right, there is a long history of developing You know, war toys.

02:15:39.000 And frankly, my political party and myself are pretty against war.

02:15:42.000 In fact, one of our main initiatives is to try to divert money from defense and bomb-making and wars to health, to science and technology.

02:15:50.000 So I'm definitely an anti... I wouldn't say anti-military, but a huge part of my platform is pulling money away from the military and putting it directly into scientists' hands.

02:15:59.000 Yeah, I would like to pull the money away from the military and pull it out of the government's hands, quite frankly.

02:16:04.000 I would like for us to be able to make our own decisions, to make our voluntary associations, to fund our own research if we wish, to be able to afford to buy whatever we wished for our own health.

02:16:14.000 But of course, you know, as long as we send all of our money to Washington and then have them make those decisions for us, that won't happen.

02:16:21.000 Let's talk a little bit about your transhumanist party.

02:16:25.000 Let's talk about the platform here.

02:16:26.000 Here's the first one.

02:16:28.000 Implement a transhumanist Bill of Rights mandating government support of longer lifespans via science and technology.

02:16:36.000 I want to know what the Bill of Rights is, but you kind of lost me there when you used the word mandating, okay?

02:16:41.000 Because I'm not really big on mandates, especially when it's something that's coming from the federal government.

02:16:47.000 No, of course, and mandate is kind of a strong word.

02:16:50.000 But basically, we want to have it so that, and this is one of the reasons why I'm driving this bus across the country, we're going to be delivering this transhumanist Bill of Rights to the U.S.

02:16:58.000 Capitol building in about five weeks.

02:17:00.000 And we want to make it so that politicians cannot step into the way of people's health We feel that politicians throughout history, for example with George W. Bush stopping stem cell funding, he has hurt people's health and we would like to make it so that no politician, because of either religious or cultural positions, can stand in the way of people's overall health.

02:17:24.000 The stem cell research.

02:17:26.000 Let's understand that when they stopped Infant stem cell research, okay?

02:17:32.000 There's still adult stem cell research.

02:17:33.000 And it's actually adult stem cell research that they've had all the advances from.

02:17:36.000 They haven't had any advances from fetal stem cell research.

02:17:40.000 So you can do things in a way that doesn't violate people's rights.

02:17:44.000 For example, we have prohibitions against doing things to people without their informed consent because of things that were done during the Nuremberg trials.

02:17:51.000 They were making the case They made the case with Nazi scientists, with German scientists, that in the greater good of humanity, they could do things to people without their informed consent. 0.60

02:18:02.000 Horrific things to people without their informed consent.

02:18:04.000 So, there are some ethical checks that we want to put on medical progress that people do.

02:18:10.000 We don't just say, well, if we're going to benefit potentially from this medically, we're going to remove those checks.

02:18:15.000 So, it is valid, I think, to have some ethical checks.

02:18:18.000 Do you agree?

02:18:19.000 No, absolutely we want ethical checks, and it's not that we're trying to eliminate all sense of culture or religious background or anything like that.

02:18:25.000 It just happens to be that, for example, in the case of the Pope, when he is, you know, they have been essentially against birth control, which is essentially against condom usage, and now you have 200 million Catholics in Africa and an AIDS epidemic that's out of control.

02:18:41.000 This is the kind of stuff that's actually harming people and making them die sooner because people aren't using condoms and of course they're getting AIDS so we want to create a mandate and it's not necessarily needs to be a mandate but we just wish that there would be some kind of cultural environment out there where Leaders would not step in the way of scientific progress that is directly related to your health, because when it comes down to health, I think everyone agrees this is for our children, for the loved ones, for our friendships, this is the most important thing.

02:19:09.000 So we just want to get people to understand that some things shouldn't get in the way of health.

02:19:13.000 Well, I would agree with you when we're looking at things like, again, going back to informed consent, not letting them Uh, mandate that we take certain medical treatments, not letting them prohibit that we get certain FDA drugs.

02:19:26.000 If we, if I have a life-threatening situation and I want to take an experimental drug, and even if it hasn't been vetted, that should be my decision to take that drug.

02:19:33.000 So I feel that if we don't make decisions about what we put into our own bodies, then we are nothing but slaves to people.

02:19:41.000 I don't think that the federal government ought to be able to make any of those determinations.

02:19:44.000 But I think it's also very important that we... I'm concerned about the idea that we would mandate support from the government because I've seen how that turns around very quickly.

02:19:55.000 We're out of time for this segment.

02:19:56.000 We're going to come back.

02:19:57.000 We're going to talk about what transhumanism means and we're talking to Zoltan Isfan of the Transhumanist Party.

02:20:04.000 We'll be right back.

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02:24:06.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:24:22.000 I'm David Knight, your host, and we're talking to Zoltan Istvan.

02:24:26.000 He is our guest in studio.

02:24:27.000 He's on a tour heading to Washington in his immortality bus, which he says looks like a coffin.

02:24:37.000 And you're going to deliver a transhumanist Bill of Rights mandating government support for longer lifespan via science and technology.

02:24:44.000 We talked about the fact that I have problems with mandates.

02:24:47.000 Tell us a little bit about, I understand you're still writing the Bill of Rights as part of the process as you're going there, but tell us a little bit about some of the types of things that we would expect to see on this Bill of Rights.

02:24:59.000 Well sure, I mean, as we spoke earlier, the first thing we'd like to do is create some kind of mandate that would say the government must, you know, look towards spending resources on your health, specifically your longevity, your lifespan.

02:25:12.000 And I think that's really important because right now, you know, They're interested in your happiness and in the welfare of the country, but not necessarily individually in your lifespans.

02:25:20.000 And we really think the length of your lifespans and the quality of it is most important.

02:25:24.000 So that's what we, it's going to be at the top of the Transhumanist Bill of Rights.

02:25:27.000 But other things that we're supportive of is getting government research into, for example, the field of cryonics, where you can free someone who is dead and hopes to bring them back to life in 50 years.

02:25:37.000 But also different types of things, maybe even like ectogenesis, artificial wombs.

02:25:43.000 This might free women up from having to go through labor and having a baby. 1.00

02:25:48.000 It's frankly still quite dangerous.

02:25:51.000 So we just want research money into that stuff, but right now there's not much going.

02:25:55.000 And so a transhumanist Bill of Rights is going to, piece by piece, try to say, hey America, you need to spend money on medicine, and especially radical medicine that is improving human lives.

02:26:07.000 I guess when I look at it, and we talk about the government doing research and directing research, I look at the way the government manages the Pentagon, for example.

02:26:17.000 And I look at a lot of misplaced priorities, even with the space program, especially with the space program.

02:26:22.000 There was a great deal of waste in that.

02:26:25.000 That's one of the areas where I have a problem with it.

02:26:26.000 The other area I have a problem with is the whole idea of rights being something that we demand from government.

02:26:31.000 You know, as I was talking about earlier in the program, We've always, the initial understanding of rights and our Bill of Rights was to prohibit the government from doing certain things to us.

02:26:41.000 In other words, leave us alone.

02:26:43.000 We have these certain inalienable rights we get from our Creator.

02:26:46.000 So leave us alone with this.

02:26:49.000 And they were prohibitions against government actions.

02:26:52.000 Now we have a kind of a a concept of rights that says, give me this, give me that, give me, you know, fund my research of my pet project.

02:27:02.000 And then the third thing I would say, and I'll let you respond to this, would be when you have a very individualized, very individualistic approach to all this, and yet it seems like there's a contradiction that you want the government to do this for you, rather than self-organizing rather than self-organizing at an individual level where you would have greater freedoms.

02:27:20.000 Because when the government gets in, it's going to take away some of that freedom, besides malinvestment.

02:27:26.000 No, no, there's certainly some type of contradiction here.

02:27:28.000 And I think a lot of it comes from the fact that I began a lot of my, I suppose, futurist career and wrote a novel, The Transhumanist Wager, which is very libertarian.

02:27:38.000 But that said, now that I'm actually in politics, an aspiring politician, I've had to become a little bit more realistic and implement some policies and ideas that are more centric and bring people closer to the fold and especially bring government more closer to my campaign in the sense that I have to work with it.

02:27:57.000 Now I know that's upset people like yourself that might be more libertarian minded, but at the same time, realistically speaking, to try to make Inroads, as an aspiring politician, there's going to be a certain amount of compromise.

02:28:09.000 And that's where I bring in this idea that, you know, I just got to be a bit more pro-government rather than this, uh, this kind of, uh, you know, staunch libertarian that I used to be.

02:28:19.000 And that's sort of where I am right now in both my campaign and also in the transhumanist party.

02:28:24.000 And in the things that I'm trying to push forward is this, is this kind of mix in this compromise.

02:28:28.000 Okay.

02:28:29.000 One of the things that we didn't talk about when I introduced you, I didn't talk at all about really your background.

02:28:34.000 You've been a writer for National Geographic, for Psychology Today, for Vice's Motherboard.

02:28:39.000 You've worked as a blogger, a futurist, a transhumanist.

02:28:42.000 You've got a novel that you wrote, and we're going to talk about that novel in the next section.

02:28:48.000 You've done a lot of different things.

02:28:50.000 It's very interesting, and I do want to get into your novel, which is the Transhumanist Wager that came out in 2013, a science fiction novel.

02:28:58.000 I think that will give us some insight into your philosophy as a transhumanist.

02:29:05.000 But let's, in this segment, let's go through a few more of the things on your platform here.

02:29:12.000 You want to get rid of the drug war, legalize mild recreational drugs like marijuana?

02:29:16.000 Yes.

02:29:17.000 I would agree with that, except I wouldn't put the qualification of recreational drugs.

02:29:22.000 I mean, I understand that if the government wants to prohibit anything, they need to do it constitutionally, like they did with alcohol.

02:29:28.000 Create a government where all politicians' original professions are represented equally.

02:29:32.000 How do we do that?

02:29:33.000 Well, that's a very difficult one.

02:29:35.000 Basically, we're just trying to stop the fact that 40% of politicians are attorneys.

02:29:39.000 We just want a clear field of people being represented from every walk of life in their professions in the government.

02:29:46.000 I just don't think 40% of politicians are attorneys.

02:29:48.000 Certainly the voters want somebody who's outside that paradigm.

02:29:52.000 We're going to be right back.

02:29:53.000 We're talking to Zoltan Isfan, and we're going to talk about what transhumanism is about.

02:29:57.000 Stay with us.

02:29:57.000 We'll be right back.

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02:33:29.000 I'm David Knight, your host on this Monday, October 26, 2015.

02:33:33.000 With me in the studio is Zoltan Istvan.

02:33:35.000 He is an American writer, a futurist, a philosopher, and a transhumanist.

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02:33:46.000 We've been talking about the platform of his transhumanist party.

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02:35:13.000 Now, Isfan, one of the things I want to talk to you about, well, quick question here.

02:35:17.000 We were talking just before the break about getting rid of lawyers.

02:35:21.000 Certainly we see that people are fed up with career politicians, are fed up with lawyers.

02:35:26.000 For some reason, though, There seems to... politics seems to attract them, okay?

02:35:32.000 It seems to attract people who want to control others, quite frankly.

02:35:36.000 And so we have a lot of lawyers.

02:35:37.000 So, I mean, what do you do about that?

02:35:39.000 I mean, do you set up a quota system?

02:35:41.000 I mean, how would you do that as a platform?

02:35:44.000 Well, you know, what you would try to do is make it so that there was a limit to the amount of lawyers that you could have in the federal government, you know.

02:35:53.000 And basically, if you were going to be running in a certain position, if you were an attorney, that was your career, then you would simply not be allowed.

02:36:01.000 Maybe you would be through some type of system where You know, you roll dice or something like that.

02:36:07.000 But you have to have a system that does not allow 40 percent of the country to be run by a certain type of person.

02:36:14.000 And lawyers represent a certain type of person.

02:36:17.000 I can imagine they would have a lot of fun with lawsuits on that.

02:36:20.000 Of course.

02:36:20.000 They would be furious.

02:36:21.000 And when I wrote this article originally about it, you know, it caused a lot of upset a lot of people.

02:36:26.000 But you need some type of system that will not allow that into the thing.

02:36:30.000 I want to see journalists in government.

02:36:32.000 I want to see doctors in government.

02:36:33.000 I want to see plumbers in government.

02:36:35.000 I want to see nurses in government. 1.00

02:36:37.000 I want to see, across the spectrum, all types of jobs running the country.

02:36:41.000 That's a fair democracy, not 40% attorneys.

02:36:44.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:36:45.000 I agree.

02:36:45.000 One of the things it has to motivate people, you have to look at is, what's their motivation to get in?

02:36:50.000 I think a lot of people just look at this system and it's a natural career progression for people in the law, unfortunately, but most people who aren't lawyers just don't want to get involved in this messy system.

02:37:01.000 Let me ask you one more thing on your platform here that I thought was kind of unusual.

02:37:05.000 You would like to advocate for morphological freedom, the right to do anything to your body as long as it doesn't harm other people.

02:37:10.000 Are there prohibitions on that now?

02:37:11.000 I mean, what is the... Well, there are certainly some things.

02:37:15.000 You know, we have the concept of euthanasia in America, which is, of course, sketchy and states control it.

02:37:21.000 There's also, you know, the ability of some things that you might want to do to your body.

02:37:25.000 You would need FDA approval.

02:37:27.000 You need, like, kind of doctor's approval.

02:37:28.000 And, you know, the biohacker community doesn't want to be told what kinds of chips to be put into their bodies or not.

02:37:35.000 Why not just get rid of the FDA completely?

02:37:38.000 You could have it be an inspection situation, right?

02:37:42.000 You could have, just like these school lunches, I can understand why you would have somebody coming around and looking to make sure that things are not being done in an unhealthy way, but to tell people what they're going to eat...

02:37:52.000 In their school lunch program, or to tell people what drugs they're going to be allowed to take or not take.

02:37:58.000 I mean, to me, that just doesn't make any sense.

02:38:01.000 You could have inspections to make sure that people are not being given poison, that there's not fraud and that sort of thing, but beyond that, I don't understand.

02:38:08.000 No, and you're getting rid of the FDA is something you're going to be seeing from me in the next two months in an article.

02:38:13.000 I would like to completely either get rid of it or reinvent it because from a transhumanist, the most important thing we have is that drugs and technology gets approved and into the system so that we can use it to live longer and live better as quickly as possible. 0.75

02:38:29.000 But the FDA, some stuff takes eight to ten years to get approved.

02:38:33.000 This is why China is catching up on the United States is because it only takes 18 months to get a drug approved there, whereas it takes eight years here.

02:38:39.000 You can't run a system, you can't run a country when there's that much regulation involved.

02:38:44.000 So, yes, rewriting the rules of the FDA or getting rid of it or something like that is something that I definitely...

02:38:49.000 Well, certainly this case that we just had with the hedge fund, a young guy that made a lot of money as a hedge fund manager, went out and bought a pharmaceutical company and then promptly raised it, I think it was like 5,000%.

02:39:00.000 It went from $13.50 a pill to $750 a pill.

02:39:05.000 One of the reasons he was able to do that is because of FDA regulations making it difficult even for people to make generic drugs because this is something that the patent had expired a long, long time, many decades ago.

02:39:16.000 But still, if somebody wanted to come in and make a generic drug, they were prohibited from doing that.

02:39:21.000 Because of FDA regulations.

02:39:23.000 So certainly it has inhibited people's access to health care.

02:39:27.000 And again, this hurts health.

02:39:28.000 And this is really what my entire platform is about.

02:39:30.000 I just want to make health easier and better to achieve.

02:39:33.000 So anything that goes against health is, in my opinion, going to be wrong.

02:39:38.000 Okay.

02:39:39.000 Let's talk about your novel, and let's talk about your philosophy of transhumanism.

02:39:44.000 Your novel is The Transhumanist Wager.

02:39:46.000 It's a 2013 science fiction novel.

02:39:49.000 To just kind of break this down briefly for people, I'm looking at what I found on the Wikipedia description, so you can correct this.

02:39:55.000 It follows the life of protagonist Jethro Knights, no relation to me, a philosopher whose effort is to promote transhumanism.

02:40:03.000 Which ultimately leads to a global revolution.

02:40:07.000 The protagonist studies philosophy, sails around the world to promote life extension, and his love interest as a physician sounds autobiographical.

02:40:15.000 Sounds like you.

02:40:16.000 You've traveled around the world with National Geographic.

02:40:19.000 You're married to a physician.

02:40:20.000 Well, yes it is.

02:40:22.000 A third of it is probably autobiographical.

02:40:25.000 Yes, yes. 0.74

02:40:26.000 Now, the interesting thing I find looking at this is you say transhumanists in your novel are being targeted and killed by Christian terrorists.

02:40:34.000 So, what is it about Christians that you would think they would target and kill somebody who is a transhumanist?

02:40:41.000 Well, you know, again, the novel is set up, first off, it's a novel, it's fiction, and it's set up so that there are some Christian fundamentalists out there, and there probably are out there in the world, that would really like to stop all technology. 0.84

02:40:53.000 When I talk about trying to live indefinitely or conquer death, Some Christians get upset at that because they think, well, why do you need to conquer death if we're going to go to Jesus when we die?

02:41:02.000 And so transhumans most don't believe that.

02:41:04.000 I'm an atheist.

02:41:06.000 And so the novel is set up as that is to kind of show that that conflict.

02:41:11.000 And of course, that conflict grows bigger and bigger through the novel.

02:41:14.000 And eventually you get to a point when the Christians say no more. 0.68

02:41:17.000 Science.

02:41:18.000 No more transhumanism.

02:41:19.000 You can have basic health care, but you can't have radical life extension.

02:41:22.000 You can't have artificial intelligence.

02:41:23.000 You can't have robots taking over and taking all our jobs.

02:41:27.000 And that's where the conflict erupts, and so that's what the book's really about.

02:41:30.000 That's an interesting take on Christianity, because as a Christian, I'm not anti-science.

02:41:34.000 I'm concerned about the misuse of technology, as we talked about earlier with DARPA.

02:41:40.000 And I don't think that Christianity is antithetical to scientific inquiry.

02:41:45.000 I mean, we've had people like Isaac Newton or James Maxwell, who did Maxwell's equations.

02:41:50.000 Connecting a unified theory between magnetism and electricity.

02:41:57.000 They were very strong Christians.

02:41:58.000 I mean they wrote as much Christian commentary as they did scientific commentary.

02:42:04.000 Perhaps more so in the case of Isaac Newton.

02:42:06.000 So I don't really see that there's any conflict inherent in Christianity.

02:42:10.000 I look at People that are paranoid about Christians terrorizing them, and it makes me, you know, think about the movie An American Carol by David Zucker, where there was this, I don't know if you ever, do you ever see that movie?

02:42:23.000 Michael Moore, there was a Michael Moore character, and it was a satire, it was a parody.

02:42:27.000 And the Michael Moore character was doing a documentary that was very anti-American.

02:42:30.000 He was very concerned about Christians at one point.

02:42:32.000 They even show some nuns in his movie jumping on a bus and pulling out the pen of a hand grenade, which the pen is a cross, and yelling, uh, Hail Mary, you know, as they blow up the bus.

02:42:45.000 I mean, you know, when I look at that, I think that is a fear that many people on the secular left have about Christians that I just think is really unfounded.

02:42:56.000 Well, you know, and again, this is where the book becomes a novel, and of course it's designed as well to be entertaining, so there has to be some conflict.

02:43:02.000 But, you know, since I've written the novel, and I started writing the novel six years ago, it took me four years, because about 20% of the novel is pure philosophy, I've grown to realize that actually many Christians are much more embracing of science than perhaps I realized when I was younger.

02:43:17.000 And at the same time, I've also realized that the conflict between transhumanism and some of the doctrine in the Bible Is something that's going to have to be faced by every person that wants to, you know, use this technology.

02:43:30.000 In fact, that's why the book's called The Transhumanist Wager.

02:43:32.000 It's based sort of on Pascal's Wager, but instead of about God, it's about using technology to live indefinitely.

02:43:37.000 And I think we're all going to be faced with that.

02:43:40.000 And many Christians are going to have to say, well, where does the scripture kind of fit within living indefinitely, or replacing an arm with a robotic arm, or even having cranial implants?

02:43:51.000 Is that really the mark of the beads?

02:43:52.000 Or is that something for our health?

02:43:54.000 And this is, you know, what the book tries to illustrate.

02:43:58.000 You know, necessarily pick sides either way.

02:44:01.000 Of course, it ends being pro-transhumanist, but at the same time, it hopefully leads everyone to a path where they can say, yeah, technology is good and so can spirituality.

02:44:10.000 In fact, the wife of the protagonist is very spiritual, so she counterbalances his atheism.

02:44:16.000 Let me ask you, and I think, too, you know, it says in the Wikipedia Description of the novel, that your wife, that the wife of the character challenges him, says that death is a part of life.

02:44:29.000 I would say, as a Christian, I don't see death as a natural part of life.

02:44:33.000 I see it as a judgment of God.

02:44:36.000 That this is basically Christian doctrine, that the earth has been basically destroyed twice because of rebellion, and death as a punishment is not the natural state of man.

02:44:47.000 So I don't really look at Christianity as a cult of death, but Let me ask you about other people's concerns about transhumanism or about artificial intelligence.

02:44:57.000 We talked during the break briefly about Hugo de Garis' book, The Artillac War.

02:45:02.000 He's concerned about it.

02:45:03.000 He's certainly not a Christian. 0.97

02:45:05.000 He believes that he's drawn.

02:45:09.000 He's kind of on both sides of this.

02:45:11.000 He's kind of He's drawn to creating something that he believes is going to destroy him and the human race.

02:45:18.000 But he sees it as the fact that he's going to be creating some kind of a god-like intelligence that he believes will turn on humans.

02:45:26.000 And nevertheless, he's drawn to do that.

02:45:29.000 So he's kind of on both sides, but overall he tends to go towards that.

02:45:33.000 So he would have issues with some of the artificial intelligence.

02:45:38.000 No, and I think artificial intelligence is something that is very dangerous.

02:45:42.000 In fact, I'm also the creator of this concept called theocytism, which is this idea that God may have existed as some superintelligence, but then ended up killing itself or, you know, just essentially becoming nothing in a way to give the rest of the world free will, and we may now be living in a universe that is a hologram.

02:46:02.000 Anyways, there's a lot of philosophy and physics that are starting to lead to some of these crazy concepts.

02:46:07.000 You know, Hugo de Guerra, when he talks about some of the worries between artificial intelligence and normal people, he's 100% right, because we are facing this incredible challenge.

02:46:17.000 How far do we let an intelligence grow beyond our own capacities?

02:46:22.000 And once it does, does it even need us around?

02:46:24.000 I'm not a big fan of AI.

02:46:26.000 I'm actually, you know, I want to spend a lot of money for research for AI to help the world, but I don't want an intelligence smarter than me on planet Earth.

02:46:33.000 That's just not...

02:46:34.000 Well, I think it's going to get out of control far sooner than that, because I think even before you get something that is self-aware general intelligence, far before that you're going to have autonomous killing machines that are created by DARPA and others.

02:46:46.000 And that brings us to how do you control this type of thing?

02:46:50.000 You know, Isaac Asimov had his Three laws of robotics, that a robot couldn't injure a human being, it had to take orders and then it had to protect its existence as long as that didn't conflict with the first two orders.

02:47:02.000 You have your own kind of three laws of transhumanism.

02:47:06.000 A transhumanist must safeguard one's own existence above all else.

02:47:10.000 How does, it seems, if that's the primary law, it seems to me like an artificial intelligence or a transhumanist That would be a prescription for conflict, a prescription for unending conflict if it's going to be that egocentric.

02:47:23.000 No, and let me state that the book is both, you know, the book where it starts with the three laws in the very first lines, is both a warning and an inspiration of the future.

02:47:33.000 And I think the three laws of transhumanism are certainly not a part of my campaign because there's no way you could run a government with the first law. 0.59

02:47:40.000 Because, I mean, you need to be more communal.

02:47:42.000 You need to care about the people.

02:47:44.000 You need to, you know, be out for your own tribe, your own country.

02:47:48.000 But the three laws are really designed to have philosophers and readers explore what kind of age we're going to be entering when you talk about machine intelligence.

02:47:56.000 When you talk about intelligence that may think more robotic-like.

02:47:59.000 It may not have mammalian feelings, which is love, tenderness, you know, our mothers and our fathers.

02:48:05.000 It may just be like, you know, I'm out for my own good.

02:48:07.000 So the three laws were written as a challenge.

02:48:09.000 How far do we take these laws?

02:48:11.000 I've often said that the three laws of transhumanism are going to be embraced by artificial intelligence, but not by human beings.

02:48:18.000 It looks like if they were to embrace that, we would have the artificial intelligence that Hugo de Garis is concerned about, that it would put its existence above everything else.

02:48:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:48:27.000 The second law would be that it would achieve omnipotence as exponentially as possible, expediently as possible, and it may be exponential as a matter of fact.

02:48:39.000 Talk about that.

02:48:40.000 What is that about?

02:48:41.000 Why would it want to, what would the second thing to be That sounds like it would be dominating, not only egocentric, but megalomaniacal as well.

02:48:50.000 Well, you know, I mean, when you talk about what transhumanists are after, they're after a perfect state of health.

02:48:56.000 They're after a kind of a state of being that nobody can tear down.

02:49:01.000 And, you know, that's virtually synonymous with omnipotence.

02:49:05.000 But at the same time, I don't think it's omnipotence in the egocentric way that most transhumanists are after.

02:49:09.000 What they're really after is just saying, you know, I now have perfect health and nobody can take it away from me.

02:49:15.000 Perhaps if we lived in some type of perfect libertarian society where that was achieved, that would be perfect.

02:49:19.000 Then we wouldn't have to use the word omnipotence.

02:49:21.000 Maybe there's a better word than that.

02:49:23.000 The way the three laws are structured is they're structured sort of that it would be an artificial intelligence or some type of super being that would achieve this omnipotence and that's why it would try to become God.

02:49:34.000 Now again, this doesn't work at all for a political platform and it's not part of my political platform.

02:49:39.000 But it is certainly worth exploring as people decide how far they want to take technology.

02:49:43.000 Again, it's all part of the transhumous wager.

02:49:45.000 How far do you go to make that transhumous wager?

02:49:48.000 Do you go to try to become God?

02:49:50.000 Do you go to try to conquer death?

02:49:52.000 Do you go to really reverse the natural course of the human being?

02:49:55.000 And I think that's the choice every single person is going to have to make in the 21st century as technology advances.

02:50:01.000 Yeah, that's why I was looking at the three laws of transhumanism as you posit them out there.

02:50:06.000 Try to get an understanding of what your philosophy was about.

02:50:10.000 And I guess, let's look at the third one.

02:50:13.000 Let me get you to comment on this.

02:50:14.000 What does it mean to safeguard value in the universe?

02:50:19.000 The third one is the good one.

02:50:20.000 The third one means safeguard everyone.

02:50:22.000 Your life, my life, my family's life, my children's life.

02:50:25.000 Safeguard means taking care of anything that has value, including the environment, including other people that we've never met before, including other star systems if we feel that's beneficial for the universe.

02:50:36.000 So the third one is really the humanitarian one, or the mammalian one, where we go out of our way to protect people and society and civilization.

02:50:45.000 It almost seems like it's taken Asimov's laws and inverted them in a very dangerous way.

02:50:50.000 You're not the first to say that.

02:50:52.000 That's okay.

02:50:52.000 Okay.

02:50:53.000 We're going to be right back.

02:50:54.000 We're talking to Zoltan Istvan, transhumanist candidate for president, and he's on his way to Washington to deliver a bill of rights for transhumanists.

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02:54:26.000 I'm David Knight, your host, and joining me in studio is Zoltan Isfan, an American writer, futurist, philosopher, and transhumanist.

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02:54:39.000 We've talked about that a little bit.

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02:54:44.000 I want to find out about his ...opinion of intelligence transference, as Ray Kurzweil is penning his hopes that he's going to transfer himself into some kind of a mechanical body at some point.

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02:55:36.000 Sultan, when we look at this, and I've seen Ray Kurzweil talk many times about transferring himself into some kind of an artificial body at some point in time.

02:55:46.000 I look at this and I was like, well...

02:55:49.000 My opinion of that would be, well, you, assuming that all of this stuff was there, you might be able, at very best, to make an exact replica of yourself.

02:55:58.000 But it wouldn't be you, in my understanding of it.

02:56:01.000 I mean, what do you think?

02:56:02.000 I mean, I look at this and I guess this fundamentally gets down to what your understanding is of what a human being is.

02:56:08.000 Are we merely a consciousness?

02:56:10.000 Are we merely a mind?

02:56:11.000 Are we merely a physical construct?

02:56:14.000 Or is there a soul?

02:56:16.000 Well, you know, I don't believe in a soul, but I believe that if you were to transfer my exact ingredients of who I am directly into a machine, at least for a single instant, it would be exactly me.

02:56:30.000 Now, there might be two.

02:56:31.000 of me exactly at the same moment.

02:56:32.000 But, you know, then a few seconds later, you know, history and nature and all these other things start happening.

02:56:37.000 You get new experiences.

02:56:38.000 Then it becomes somebody different, but it's very close.

02:56:41.000 So I'm a believer in life extension using mind uploading as one means of conquering death.

02:56:46.000 It's not ideal.

02:56:48.000 What would be ideal is for me to neither lose my consciousness as I am right now and to maybe transfer myself into something where I'm, you know, in a robotic body but it's perhaps I always have my brain intact somehow like that.

02:57:00.000 But mind uploading is probably going to be the one.

02:57:04.000 That might work in terms of getting us to do things like space travel and getting us to do things like going off into total different areas of human existence that we've never been.

02:57:14.000 I mean, imagine if you're living in a computer.

02:57:17.000 We have five senses right now with our human body.

02:57:19.000 In a computer you might have 500 senses.

02:57:21.000 Experience reality could be something incredibly different and very exciting potentially.

02:57:26.000 Yeah, I'm very excited about living forever.

02:57:29.000 Quite frankly, I'm a Christian.

02:57:31.000 So, I think that I'm going to get a spiritual body, and I think that's going to be something that is beyond anything that I can comprehend.

02:57:37.000 And so, I'm quite confident I'm going to get that.

02:57:40.000 Actually, it's a confident expectation.

02:57:42.000 And again, I guess it comes back to where you think we are in terms of a person.

02:57:49.000 You know, when Hugo de Guerra created his artificial brain project, It was kind of a field of dreams approach.

02:57:56.000 In other words, if he could reconstruct the human brain accurately enough, he believed that consciousness would come.

02:58:03.000 You know, like a field of dreams.

02:58:04.000 I built this thing and it'll just flow into that.

02:58:08.000 And so, I guess when I look at that, I just never really bought that.

02:58:13.000 Because to me, there has to be something else there.

02:58:16.000 There has to be something else to our existence that creates that consciousness other than just all of the physical components that are there.

02:58:26.000 And I want to give you time to answer that.

02:58:27.000 We're going to keep Zoltan Isfan for another segment coming up right after the break.

02:58:32.000 We're out of time on this segment, but we're going to be right back with Zoltan Isfan and we're going to get your answer on that.

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03:00:21.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

03:00:22.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

03:00:23.000 And we have with us, we're holding over to this segment, Zoltan Isfan, the transhumanist.

03:00:28.000 And I posed a question to Zoltan that he didn't have a chance to answer in the last segment.

03:00:32.000 So we're going to get that answer.

03:00:35.000 And again, basically what I was asking you, Zoltan, was do you believe that, you know, what is your basic philosophy in terms of what That constitutes us, okay?

03:00:47.000 Like we're talking about the idea that if you build an exact replica of the brain that the consciousness would come.

03:00:52.000 And I said, I believe that there's something more to that.

03:00:55.000 Your response?

03:00:56.000 Sure.

03:00:56.000 Well, a lot of transhumanists believe in mind uploading, where you just upload your consciousness into a machine and that's you.

03:01:02.000 And, you know, I think a lot of people ask, well, is that really you?

03:01:05.000 And this kind of gets into a great philosophical debate of materialism versus kind of spirituality.

03:01:10.000 A Christian would say, well, you know, after death, it's Jesus or God that takes them to a new place and they have their self.

03:01:18.000 But you have to ask yourself, well, how does that actually happen?

03:01:20.000 Well, when scientists talk about mind uploading into a machine, they're talking about that same kind of philosophical jump, except instead of into a spiritual world, they're talking more into a material world of data, of bits.

03:01:32.000 And we've already had quite a bit of success actually in the last two years with telepathy.

03:01:38.000 About 18 months ago, between France and India, they had mind-reading headsets where people were able to say things to each other's minds without actually speaking out loud.

03:01:48.000 And now they're doing all sorts of tests with this type of technology where you can think thoughts, you read the brainwaves through the EEG technology, And then you can hear someone saying these things to you, but it's just telepathy.

03:02:00.000 This is how we're going to do mind uploading.

03:02:02.000 We're going to use those algorithms, except much more complex, you know, a billion times over, and put a human brain into a machine that can think and feel and hopefully act identically to who we are here.

03:02:14.000 And that's what concerns me.

03:02:16.000 As Eric Schmidt said with Google, he said, yeah, we're going to get that technology just over the creepy line, okay?

03:02:22.000 When you start reading people's minds, to me, the potential for abuse, and of course this is something, going back to the history of DARPA, this is something that they've been working on from the very inception of the agency, to try to either physically do that or to try to infer that.

03:02:37.000 By watching everything that you do, coming up with predictive algorithms to try to monitor and predict your behavior and then control your behavior because they're not just curious as to what you want to do.

03:02:48.000 They want to control that.

03:02:49.000 So that's one of the things that concerns me so much about all this technology is the vast potential for abuse and where much of this research is coming from.

03:02:58.000 And that's why when young transhumanists ask me what field should I go into, I always tell them security.

03:03:04.000 Because security for the thing that you're worried about is perhaps going to be the biggest field of economy coming in the future.

03:03:11.000 We need to protect ourselves with this incredible technology we're going to have.

03:03:15.000 From abuse from government, abuse from hackers, abuse from individuals, even abuse from people that may love us and can do things.

03:03:21.000 I mean, now wives and husbands can, you know, follow each other and we have drones following us and stuff like that.

03:03:27.000 So this field of making sure that we retain our civil liberties in the area of 21st century technology is going to be the most important field going forward.

03:03:36.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

03:03:37.000 And when we look at things like self-driving cars, the potential for making us passive spectators, you know, controlled passive spectators in our own environment.

03:03:47.000 As we were talking about this during the break, I said, you know, transhumanism to me looks like traditional humanism.

03:03:53.000 Atheistic, secular, you know, materialistic.

03:03:57.000 It seems to me, like, it's kind of interesting we see transgenderism and all these other things.

03:04:02.000 It seems to me that many of these futurists, like Ray Kurzweil, really identify with being a machine more than they do with being a human, right?

03:04:09.000 And so they're coming at this from this atheistic, humanistic, desiring to be a machine type of perspective, your comments.

03:04:17.000 Well, I do want to point out that there's a growing field of religious transhumanists out there that are merging their spiritual ideas, their biblical ideas, with transhumanism.

03:04:26.000 And I think that is definitely going to be the future as you find a lot younger religious-minded people saying, you know, I'm also open to technology.

03:04:33.000 But yeah, right now it is a very materialistic and kind of secular-minded movement.

03:04:38.000 And I think it makes it easier if you're a secularist to embrace this type of radical technology, to go forward without a soul and to go forward As somebody who is just willing to be on their own in the universe.

03:04:50.000 Yeah, that's fundamentally the difference in how we see the world.

03:04:54.000 Christians would see it as a medical, physical universe. 0.92

03:04:57.000 And cyclers would see it as strictly physical.

03:05:00.000 Thank you so much for joining us, Zoltan Isfan.

03:05:03.000 Been an interesting discussion.

03:05:04.000 We'll be right back with the fourth hour.

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03:10:02.000 Some dogs were labeled pork-free, which is important, of course, if you know that's your religious Criteria but they were found to contain pork after all and even grosser 2% of all samples were found to have traces of human DNA in them.

03:10:17.000 Veggie dogs were the worst off accounting for 67% of the hygiene issues and two-thirds of the human DNA found.

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03:10:27.000 Thank goodness I cannot eat veggie hot dogs as a vegetarian.

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03:11:28.000 Now joining me in studio is Rob do.

03:11:31.000 And we're going to talk about the cesspool of corruption within, you know, this vaccine coverup.

03:11:39.000 So over the weekend, U.S.

03:11:40.000 citizens marched on the CDC headquarters in Atlanta to protest vaccine science corruption.

03:11:47.000 Is this finally?

03:11:47.000 So what do you think?

03:11:48.000 Are we pushing back against this ultimate push for mandatory vaccines?

03:11:53.000 Well, it looks like right now the vaccine coverup is imploding in Congress.

03:11:53.000 Right.

03:11:57.000 And this is a CDC protest.

03:11:59.000 This was done in Atlanta, led by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who's been very outspoken against vaccines, which is great to see, you know, somebody like that.

03:12:06.000 And he's not necessarily a lot of the people Are against these vaccine schedules and the ingredients and then they're not necessarily against vaccines, you know, at least they say but they're against them the way they're being done right now, right?

03:12:17.000 So there was a big gathering.

03:12:19.000 Some of the doctors are some of the people that were speaking on there.

03:12:23.000 They were going to have Dr. Congressman Bill Posey was going to be there.

03:12:26.000 Who's been speaking out in Congress.

03:12:28.000 And then here's an interesting person, Dr. Judy Mikovits.

03:12:32.000 She's the author of Plague and a 20-year veteran researcher of the National Cancer Institute that she had her research destroyed for uncovering the hidden truths behind autism, chronic fatigue syndrome, human retroviruses, and others.

03:12:44.000 So, it's good to see, you know, people getting out, protesting at the CDC, because that's where a lot of that vaccine data comes from, that pro-vaccine data.

03:12:52.000 They were also trying to say, hey, whatever happened to your senior scientist, Dr. William Thompson, who publicly admitted to fraud?

03:12:58.000 I was going to get to Dr. Thompson, because he's another guy who's pro-vaccine, but he saw this cover-up happening where they skewed data.

03:13:07.000 With the MMR vaccine and showing basically that young African-American boys had a higher risk of getting autism after getting the MMR and they skewed that data by claiming these kids were adopted or they didn't have parents so they were changing the groupage that way.

03:13:25.000 Hey, to make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs, right?

03:13:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:13:28.000 But getting back to Bill Posey, he actually went on the floor of Congress and said, we need to look at Dr. Thompson's remarks.

03:13:33.000 We need to look at his research, because there is a cover-up.

03:13:36.000 And it was, you know, publishing the information about the MMR, which is measles, mumps, and rubella.

03:13:41.000 Of course, we had that big measles scare, and I'm going to get to a little bit of that, you know, in a second.

03:13:46.000 But that's good that Dr. Thompson, or that Bill Posey, a representative from Florida, is speaking out against it.

03:13:52.000 And he said this.

03:13:53.000 Considering the nature of the whistleblower's documents, he's talking about Dr. Thompson, as well as the involvement of the CDC, a hearing and a thorough investigation is warranted.

03:14:00.000 So I ask, Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues of the Appropriations Committee to please, please take such an action, Posey said from the floor.

03:14:08.000 It is my duty that the documents Dr. Thompson provided are not ignored, Posey said from the floor Tuesday, delivering nearly the same remarks in a speech several weeks ago.

03:14:18.000 That pushback is starting to happen, that and with other parents, and people are going to start standing up with this SB 277, but there's another bill coming down the pike.

03:14:26.000 Now here's a couple articles from Forbes that I also wanted to get to, and these are kind of, you know, vaccine skeptic hit pieces.

03:14:33.000 One, they're talking about former representative Dan Burton, who used to get on the floor and talk about the link between autism and vaccines.

03:14:40.000 And now he's being paid as a lobbyist, which is not odd for a congressman to then become a lobbyist, definitely for the other side of Big Pharma.

03:14:49.000 But the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, now who is this?

03:14:52.000 This is a group funded by the Scientologists.

03:14:54.000 So then they take that, and actually the Citizens Commission on Human Rights does have some valid points against over-medication, especially with mind-altering drugs.

03:15:02.000 They say there's way too much of them.

03:15:04.000 That's probably something we should look at, because A lot of these people who are going out and shooting people happen to be on these SSRIs.

03:15:09.000 Right.

03:15:10.000 So they are against that type of stuff and a lot of psychiatry.

03:15:13.000 They're very against that.

03:15:14.000 So he's with that group so they spend time attacking him.

03:15:17.000 And then they came out with one of his Back to the Future Day last week on I guess Friday or Thursday.

03:15:22.000 It was, you know, Marty McFly went back to that date or went forward in time.

03:15:27.000 So they have this conversation between Marty and Doc and Marty's talking about the flu shot, Doc!

03:15:33.000 They're giving it out of pharmacy now!

03:15:35.000 And the Doc's like, oh yes, pharmacies are, vaccines are now easier to get.

03:15:39.000 And they just talk about how great it is now that the shot schedule has been increased, you know, because he only got eight shots and now there's 15.

03:15:45.000 Oh, it's so great!

03:15:47.000 And the Doc is just saying, science hasn't advanced far enough, Marty, it's amazing what strides scientists have made.

03:15:52.000 So just these two articles from Forbes, I just, you know, people need to look out for this stuff because they're always putting out Any type of pro-vaccine propaganda they can, just to get people in the door to get these things.

03:16:03.000 But here's something people need to look out for on a nationwide level.

03:16:06.000 Not just SB 277, which was the California legislation that eliminated the personal belief.

03:16:11.000 So you can't opt out of vaccines anymore if you want to put your kids in a public or private school.

03:16:15.000 They covered everything.

03:16:17.000 Right.

03:16:17.000 Now there's going to be HR 6, which is called the 21st Century Cures Act.

03:16:22.000 Oh, incidentally, today was the day back, I think, in 2003 or 2004, George Bush signed the Patriot Act.

03:16:29.000 Oh, I love that.

03:16:30.000 So, you know, the very unpatriotic Patriot Act.

03:16:33.000 I love that.

03:16:34.000 Double speak.

03:16:34.000 Anyway, this is a 362-page bill that mandates $9 billion be given to the National Institute for Health to develop more drugs and vaccines, and $550 million be given to the FDA to fast-track products to market.

03:16:47.000 It was like our transhumanist guest was saying today, we need to get rid of the FDA so we can get more drugs to market quicker.

03:16:54.000 But the reason they have those loose regulations anyway, that they pay off all the time, there's always loopholes that these guys can go through, is so that there is some checks and balance, which I think we need.

03:17:05.000 And we've never done placebo testing with vaccines, we just look for antibodies.

03:17:10.000 So when they inject it into you, they test your blood and they go, oh, you've got antibodies now for the disease.

03:17:16.000 That means you're building an immunity.

03:17:18.000 But what it is, is your body fighting back against adjuvants like aluminum and mercury being injected into your body.

03:17:24.000 And it's going, wait a minute, wait a minute.

03:17:26.000 And your newborn baby.

03:17:27.000 And your newborn, yeah.

03:17:28.000 They're actually pushing for mothers to, you know, just hold off on breastfeeding while we're giving you the vaccines. 1.00

03:17:33.000 You know, your kids don't need that good mother's milk. 1.00

03:17:35.000 They need the vaccines.

03:17:36.000 Well, and some of the vaccines they're looking at to come out, to come out with, one for HIV AIDS, which I think will increase HIV AIDS rates, in my personal opinion.

03:17:44.000 Chlamydia, Hepatitis C, genital herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea, E. coli, norovirus, tuberculosis.

03:17:51.000 A lot of these diseases are, they're sexually transmitted diseases, but they're also hygiene diseases, you could say.

03:17:57.000 Even, you know, you get the E. coli, norovirus, and tuberculosis, a lot of those are from dirty areas.

03:18:02.000 And a lot of the, we don't see a lot of these diseases, except you're now seeing like a rise in gonorrhea and syphilis and chlamydia in senior citizen populations.

03:18:10.000 Wow, well that's thanks to Viagra and the Tinder app I hear.

03:18:14.000 Probably so.

03:18:15.000 People are getting around.

03:18:16.000 Well, this article that came out at the end of September by David Adams, who's a doctor, he said be skeptical about vaccination claims.

03:18:24.000 And he makes some very interesting points.

03:18:26.000 One of which is from 1900 to 1965, measles deaths had already decreased 99%.

03:18:31.000 65% was when the vaccine was introduced.

03:18:34.000 And from 1900 to 1935, pertussis deaths had already decreased 82%.

03:18:38.000 So these things were already on their way out when they told you we needed them.

03:18:41.000 That was from the Union.

03:18:43.000 And then 30% of the measles cases from that Disneyland outbreak were from vaccinated kids.

03:18:49.000 Right.

03:18:49.000 You're not allowed to talk about that.

03:18:50.000 Which they don't tell you about that.

03:18:51.000 I think that's racist of you to talk about facts.

03:18:54.000 Of the 8,200 pediatric pertussis cases reported in California in 2014, 90%, 9-0, had been vaccinated.

03:19:04.000 Right.

03:19:04.000 Okay, and they want to talk about herd immunity and you have to get these.

03:19:07.000 Put it.

03:19:08.000 And the CDC admits that over the last 10 plus years there have been no deaths from measles in the United States, but 800 deaths, I mean 108 deaths from the measles vaccine itself.

03:19:19.000 And 2,000 people disabled.

03:19:19.000 Wow.

03:19:20.000 And isn't it funny how this country has such a love affair with the Kennedy family?

03:19:25.000 Except for when one of them wants to actually speak out.

03:19:28.000 Oh right, as long as they're pulling the status quo or being used to justify closing down a park on the 50th anniversary of someone's death to inhibit free speech, then it's okay.

03:19:38.000 Yeah, but they don't like this at all.

03:19:39.000 And this is from Dr. David Adams, PhD, who lives in Penn Valley, Pennsylvania.

03:19:44.000 He also said, childhood diseases seem to play a beneficial role in maturing the child's immune system.

03:19:49.000 A 2015 study found that those who had measles and mumps children suffered less heart attacks and less strokes later.

03:19:54.000 Wow.

03:19:54.000 So your natural immune system is doing its job.

03:19:57.000 Yeah, imagine that.

03:19:58.000 Well, vaccine skeptics could finally be taken seriously if Congress will do its job.

03:20:03.000 Now, we'll be right back.

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03:24:07.000 Welcome back to The Alex Jones Show.

03:24:25.000 I am Leanne McAdoo hosting this fourth hour of Overdrive.

03:24:28.000 Now Emmy Robin is going to be joining me coming up. 0.92

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03:24:46.000 Now, in 2008, we had one of the worst financial crises happen here, globally, essentially.

03:24:53.000 The U.S.

03:24:54.000 and the Congress gave the American banks a $700 billion TARP bailout at the expense of taxpayers.

03:25:01.000 No bankers have even been charged with the crime in that, relating to the collapse.

03:25:06.000 Virtually no regulation of the banks.

03:25:08.000 And they're still pulling in record profits.

03:25:11.000 But that's pretty much the opposite of what Iceland did.

03:25:14.000 And they've actually gone on and jailed even more bankers.

03:25:17.000 And these are not your low-level traders.

03:25:19.000 These are CEOs.

03:25:20.000 So we're going to go ahead and play a report now by John Bowne.

03:25:24.000 Jail the bankers.

03:25:25.000 Of course, if we jail the bankers, this whole house of cards would fall down.

03:25:31.000 74 combined years in prison.

03:25:33.000 That's how Iceland's Supreme Court and the Reykjavik District Court respond to those responsible for Iceland's financial collapse.

03:25:41.000 This brings the total to 26 bankers now behind bars in Iceland, with most being CEOs of large financial institutions rather than low-level traders.

03:25:52.000 Most of those jailed will serve terms of two to five years, according to a report by Iceland magazine, which notes that three executives at Landsbanken and two at Kalpene, along with one prominent investor, have been prosecuted.

03:26:08.000 Their crimes include market manipulation, embezzlement, and breach of fiduciary duties.

03:26:13.000 Their market manipulation destroyed the country's economy and to this day Iceland is still having to repay the global loan sharks at the IMF as well as governments of other countries which kept the nation operating.

03:26:25.000 Iceland magazine explains that rather than protect and reward the very institutions responsible for the collapse and the blood-sucking vermin that run them, the Icelandic government let them collapse. 0.56

03:26:37.000 And then created a financial supervisory authority to strictly oversee the banks.

03:26:42.000 Iceland's President Grimson noted, why are the banks considered to be the holy churches of the modern economy?

03:26:49.000 Why are private banks, not like airlines and telecommunication companies, and allowed to go bankrupt if they have been run in an irresponsible way?

03:26:57.000 The theory that you have to bail out banks is a theory that you allow bankers enjoy for their own profit, their success, and then let ordinary people Bear their failure through taxes and austerity.

03:27:09.000 People in enlightened democracies are not going to accept that in the long run.

03:27:13.000 Iceland's President Grimson explained their strategy.

03:27:16.000 We were wise enough not to follow the traditional prevailing orthodoxies of the Western financial world in the last 30 years.

03:27:23.000 We introduced currency controls.

03:27:25.000 We let the banks fail, we provided support for the poor, and we didn't introduce austerity measures like you're seeing in Europe.

03:27:32.000 While the country's economy is far from what it once was, it has stabilized and is in a position to recover.

03:27:39.000 Meanwhile, the governments of the US and Europe bailed out most of those responsible for playing a direct role in the financial crisis that crippled the global economy.

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03:28:04.000 Congress gave American banks a $700 billion TARP bailout at the expense of the taxpayers.

03:28:11.000 Not one banker in the U.S.

03:28:12.000 has even been charged with a crime relating to the financial collapse.

03:28:16.000 There's still virtually no regulation of the banks.

03:28:19.000 And they are pulling in a near record 160 billion in annual profits.

03:28:24.000 All for money created out of thin air.

03:28:27.000 The Department of Justice, Under Holder, and now Lynch continues to pretend to do the hard work associated with reining in the financial criminal banking institutions laundering drug cartel money.

03:28:38.000 But fines and even penalties don't send the message that the banksters received in Iceland.

03:28:43.000 Jail the bankers, the ones at the top, and free the taxpayers.

03:28:49.000 It may be the most important meme the people of the United States could ever support.

03:28:54.000 Jailing the bankers would bring the New World Order down like a house of cards.

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03:29:04.000 Oh yeah, he's definitely one.

03:29:08.000 I gotta ask you this.

03:29:09.000 It's just a matter of national security.

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03:29:21.000 Oh my God, they're everywhere!

03:29:24.000 Oh, they're everywhere!

03:29:25.000 Oh, hold on.

03:29:27.000 I gotta get my stuff together.

03:29:28.000 I'm getting my stuff together.

03:29:34.000 And that's how it is here in America.

03:29:35.000 They're just too big to jail.

03:29:37.000 Just like Lois Lerner, Miss I Plead the Fifth, is also, you know, they're not going to jail her either. 0.98

03:29:43.000 They said, yeah, you know, they did some wrongdoing there, but bad behavior isn't a crime.

03:29:47.000 Of course, if it was, our entire Congress would be in prison.

03:29:51.000 So there you go.

03:29:53.000 All right, we'll be right back with Emmy Robbins taking your phone calls on the liver shield cleanse.

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03:30:24.000 But guess what?

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03:30:32.000 And generally speaking, the most violent cities in the country have the most severe gun restrictions.

03:30:36.000 That isn't that surprising.

03:30:37.000 I mean, if you're out committing violent crimes, do you really want your victims shooting back?

03:30:40.000 So isn't it ironic, then, that the mainstream media and the Obama administration are currently pushing for more gun control?

03:30:46.000 President Obama is even considering enacting gun control via executive order.

03:30:49.000 But not only is that illegal, it's also dictatorial.

03:30:52.000 Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay called that an impeachable offense.

03:30:56.000 In an interview with Newsmax, he said it's time for the House to start letting the people know that this is a lawless president.

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03:31:01.000 An imperial president isn't just a threat to our Second Amendment rights, but all of our freedoms.

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03:33:08.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

03:33:18.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

03:33:26.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

03:33:28.000 This is the 4th Hour Overdrive.

03:33:30.000 I'm your host Leanne McAdoo.

03:33:32.000 What a tremendous show we had today.

03:33:34.000 I can't believe we had an actual transhumanist in the studio.

03:33:37.000 It's always good to get, you know, some different opinions on the way the world should be headed.

03:33:43.000 So that was quite interesting.

03:33:46.000 And now Emmy Robin is joining me in studio.

03:33:48.000 We're going to go ahead and take some of your phone calls.

03:33:51.000 The number to call is 1-800-259-9231.

03:33:54.000 So we'll be taking your phone calls in just a minute.

03:33:59.000 Now, before the break, I mentioned that we are hoping to show you our before and afters.

03:34:04.000 If not, we're going to go ahead and tweet them out later.

03:34:05.000 And I also mentioned that mine are kind of a before and almost after.

03:34:10.000 I'm almost finished.

03:34:12.000 Because, you know, I almost derailed this entire process last night by not following Dr. Group's directions.

03:34:21.000 We'll get to that in a minute.

03:34:22.000 I wanted to let everybody know this cleanse is on sale right now.

03:34:26.000 The Liver Shield is on sale.

03:34:28.000 The pack itself is on sale with the Advanced Liver Cleanse Pack with the oxy powder and the liver shield the oxy powder itself is on sale so go ahead to the info war store and pick some up today i'm telling you this is powerful i felt amazing this entire week it was not as hard as i thought that it was going to be and they are right now highlighting this doctor group's six-day liver cleanse instructions

03:34:56.000 please follow the instructions i I tried to sub them a little bit when we get to the salt flush.

03:35:02.000 So Emmy, we'll go ahead and start talking about that right now.

03:35:06.000 So what I did is you're supposed to get Epsom salt and we couldn't find it.

03:35:11.000 We were looking and the only thing they had was the Epsom salt that you bathe in.

03:35:14.000 So it had lavender and honey and You know, all of these ingredients, and we're like, I'm not going to ingest that.

03:35:19.000 That's confusing.

03:35:20.000 So, we subbed it out with, did you use Himalayan sea salt as well?

03:35:25.000 I used Celtic sea salt, because when I do the master cleanse, which I do quite a bit, you flush every morning, and I use Celtic sea salt with that, but you drink it with a lot more water.

03:35:36.000 You do a lot more salt and a lot more water than what is recommended on Dr. Group's instructions.

03:35:41.000 And I gotta say, Dr. Group was pretty disappointed this morning when I talked to him and told him that I didn't follow his instructions.

03:35:48.000 And the reason why he uses the Epsom salt specifically is because Himalayan salt or Celtic sea salt or something like that that you could actually put on your food, it's a different salt compound.

03:35:59.000 So it's got magnesium and things like that that your body will absorb because, you know, it's salt that you can eat.

03:36:05.000 Whereas with the Epsom salts, it's a different kind of compound.

03:36:08.000 So even if you're just using that one tablespoon of Epsom salt with eight ounces of water, your body will flush it out.

03:36:15.000 It will react to it because it's like, whoa, this is not salt that I should be ingesting.

03:36:19.000 So I speak.

03:36:22.000 We didn't do our diary yesterday specifically because it was flush day.

03:36:26.000 And I got to say, that was my least favorite part of this cleanse was doing the salt and three quarters of a cup of olive oil.

03:36:37.000 Did you put a tiny bit of orange juice in it, though?

03:36:39.000 Your suggestion... That does help.

03:36:39.000 I did.

03:36:42.000 Just a little bit, though.

03:36:43.000 Tell us what you told me how to do it, because it did make it palatable.

03:36:46.000 I did it, but it was horrendous.

03:36:48.000 Um, so I prefer doing the olive oil, sipping it through a straw, because, I mean, when you're trying to physically chug olive oil, I mean, it's a thicker substance.

03:36:58.000 And you also put it in the refrigerator.

03:37:00.000 Yeah, I put it in the refrigerator in the morning, because I knew that I was going to drink it that night.

03:37:05.000 And then I just add, like, you know, maybe a little less than a shot glass full of orange juice into it, mix it, and then I plug my nose.

03:37:12.000 Even with the saltwater flush, you need to plug your nose, because if you have any kind of gag reflex, it will I just kept saying, I'm a mermaid, I'm a mermaid.

03:37:21.000 So I plug my nose and just take a straw and sip it down.

03:37:25.000 You know, and the second you let go of your nose, you're going to taste the olive oil.

03:37:27.000 I mean, olive oil isn't a pleasant taste raw, but... And I love olive oil, but I don't want any.

03:37:34.000 But again that I mean group is right I mean that if you can keep it in for that eight hours and lay on your side for that 30 minutes it's gonna oil pull and it's gonna pull the toxins out of your liver and you do feel it.

03:37:43.000 Did you not start to feel sick?

03:37:45.000 Absolutely well as soon as I took the olive oil you're supposed to immediately go lay down on your right side pull your knees to your chest and I heard it it was like Like little sort of popping sounds just starting to come out of wherever and I felt it flowing through my intestines but I also felt like I was on my deathbed because I was basically OD'ing on sodium and that is why my before and afters are not necessarily before and after.

03:38:12.000 I took so much salt.

03:38:14.000 That I woke up this morning and I was really bloated and needless to say I'm experiencing the flush today.

03:38:20.000 So now we're going to go ahead and take some of your phone calls.

03:38:24.000 I want to go ahead and talk to Chandler in Oklahoma.

03:38:27.000 Go ahead.

03:38:29.000 Hello Leanne.

03:38:30.000 Nice to talk to you.

03:38:31.000 Hi there.

03:38:33.000 Can you hear me?

03:38:34.000 Oh yeah.

03:38:34.000 You're live.

03:38:35.000 I just had to ask that because nearly every caller asks that.

03:38:39.000 But anyways, I'm 23 years old.

03:38:41.000 I'm a construction worker.

03:38:45.000 I wrestled in high school, I played basketball competitively, and by no means am I out of shape or overweight, but I found myself getting kind of fogged down midday, framing houses, and I decided to do a liver cleanse.

03:39:01.000 I did a liver cleanse and it just gave me, I found myself taking energy drinks, having energy drinks midday.

03:39:12.000 And not even bad, any energy drinks, supplemental energy drinks.

03:39:17.000 But after the cleanse, I absolutely did not have any fogginess during the day.

03:39:23.000 I was just, I felt great after the cleanse.

03:39:28.000 And if people, if they're a little overweight or if they have an inside job where they're not as active, they're not doing, I mean, I just, I feel like That's when it's absolutely going to get backed up there because you're not moving around.

03:39:45.000 And in humans, we're not meant to be sitting around all day.

03:39:48.000 We're meant to be getting a little bit of physical activity.

03:39:51.000 You're absolutely right about that.

03:39:52.000 What was your diet like before you did the cleanse?

03:39:56.000 My diet?

03:39:56.000 I had a good diet throughout high school.

03:40:01.000 Like I said, I'm 23, so I kind of dropped out of that diet and I wasn't eating.

03:40:06.000 I never drink pop.

03:40:09.000 I always drink water.

03:40:11.000 I kind of watch what I eat throughout the week so I don't feel bad.

03:40:15.000 Did you find yourself not craving greasy stuff after the cleanse?

03:40:19.000 You were craving the healthy stuff afterwards because your body wants it?

03:40:24.000 Oh yeah, it gave me an extreme amount of mental motivation to continue eating healthy, to not eat greasy food, not eat drunk food.

03:40:33.000 It gave me an extraordinary amount of motivation to keep up with eating right, eating healthy after the cleanse.

03:40:42.000 It was great.

03:40:43.000 It was amazing.

03:40:44.000 Just bought some more.

03:40:45.000 I'm going to do a second cleanse because I heard Dr. Group just stress how important it is to do it a second time and a third time and just keep up the cleansing.

03:40:56.000 Wow Chandler, well that is so awesome to hear.

03:40:58.000 I'm glad that you had such tremendous results with this and that even after that salt flush and the olive oil experience, you're ready to do it again.

03:41:06.000 Thank you Chandler.

03:41:08.000 Because Chandler's absolutely right.

03:41:09.000 I feel the exact same way.

03:41:11.000 It was so...

03:41:12.000 The way that I felt during the cleanse and even now today, even after having, being, I think literally on my deathbed last night, I feel great today.

03:41:21.000 I just, you feel lighter, literally our skin is glowing.

03:41:25.000 I didn't even want to put makeup on today just to let everyone see that my skin is just, it's glowing, it's clear, the mental clarity and, you know, is that why you've done so many cleanses?

03:41:36.000 Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, it all started, like I said, I started my very, very first I mean, if you are somebody out there and you are addicted to cleanses like I am, I try to do them every four months, so three times a year.

03:41:55.000 It's usually good.

03:41:56.000 I mean, you build up a lot of the toxins from what they put in our foods and whatnot, so it's good to do it a couple of times a year if you like cleanses.

03:42:06.000 I don't want to say it's easy to somebody who's never done one, but it definitely is easy if you are a cleanser.

03:42:12.000 It's an easier cleanse to do.

03:42:14.000 Yeah, well this has been my very first cleanse and it was, you know, obviously it's really good to have someone along for the ride, help keep you motivated, keep your mental Constitution in check, you know, don't give up.

03:42:29.000 So that was definitely very helpful.

03:42:30.000 And it was.

03:42:31.000 It was an easy cleanse.

03:42:33.000 I think a lot of that what really helped is that I cut out cheese and wine, my favorite things, you know, a few days beforehand.

03:42:41.000 And I think that that really helps to just kind of so you're not well, except for I did eat that piece of pizza for lunch.

03:42:46.000 But also, you know, it helps The most on this cleanse is those Oxy-Powder Pills.

03:42:49.000 I love the Oxy-Powder Pills because they will do what a saltwater flesh does to you, but they do it in a healthy way.

03:42:57.000 In a healthy way without that horrendous taste.

03:43:00.000 You're right.

03:43:01.000 I love the Oxy-Powder Pills.

03:43:03.000 You don't want to obviously take those every day on a daily basis.

03:43:06.000 But like if I go out on the weekend and, you know, I'm going to a barbecue and I'm drinking beer and this and that.

03:43:12.000 And hey, let's say I have an audition the next day.

03:43:14.000 I'm going to take some oxypilat pills the night before and I'm going to, you know, lose that bloating and sodium bloating and all that bad stuff.

03:43:22.000 Well, everyone is always worried about putting on those winter pounds with Thanksgiving and Christmas.

03:43:28.000 We're all worried about that and that's, you're exactly right, with the Oxy-Powder.

03:43:33.000 It's kind of a cheap thing, but it is healthy.

03:43:35.000 It's healthy for you and you've got to cleanse the stuff out of your gut.

03:43:39.000 You know, like I said, here the World Health Organization is saying processed meats, sausages and bacon causes cancer, bowel cancer.

03:43:48.000 Probably enough evidence they say it's probably carcinogenic and it's based on how much meat you're putting in your body and so many people eat tons of meat way more than is recommended so and what people don't understand is that that You can stay in your intestines for years.

03:44:06.000 Yeah, red meat and pork especially.

03:44:07.000 And you'll never cleanse it out.

03:44:09.000 And so that's why I recommend the Oxy Powder above everything if that's where you got to start.

03:44:14.000 But again, we are running a special on it.

03:44:15.000 So now is the time to go ahead and try this liver cleanse pack because it is on sale.

03:44:23.000 Now, we're going to go ahead and take some more calls.

03:44:26.000 Let's talk to Antoine in California.

03:44:29.000 Go ahead.

03:44:32.000 Hi, can you hear me?

03:44:33.000 Hey, you're live!

03:44:37.000 Yeah, I took the liver cleanse.

03:44:39.000 I actually put it in some water and some olive oil or apple cider vinegar or whatever and I Took it for about six or seven days.

03:44:55.000 I wanted to make sure that what was coming out was going to be really soft.

03:44:59.000 And so I took the olive oils, moxie powder. 0.98

03:45:02.000 The epsom salt was pretty easy to take and olive oil to me was pretty easy to take too.

03:45:07.000 And I didn't have like a gag reflex.

03:45:10.000 And I think about half of it came out because I felt a lot come out, but it was pretty weird.

03:45:17.000 Yeah, it definitely feels weird.

03:45:19.000 Thank you.

03:45:19.000 So, Antoine, was it a success?

03:45:22.000 Yeah, it was a success.

03:45:24.000 Yeah, that's so awesome.

03:45:26.000 So thank you Antoine.

03:45:27.000 And that's what I gotta say.

03:45:29.000 I mean, I feel today, I mean, I could say that, yeah, there's some globules and things.

03:45:34.000 It is real.

03:45:35.000 It's real.

03:45:36.000 Everything that people are telling you, it absolutely happens and it will I encourage you to continue eating healthy.

03:45:42.000 At the very least, I'm going to be introducing that apple cider vinegar mixture and the lemon water in my daily routine because your body needs it.

03:45:50.000 Now, I know a lot of people had questions on some of our videos.

03:45:53.000 They were asking, I don't have a gallbladder.

03:45:55.000 Can I still do this cleanse?

03:45:57.000 And I asked Dr. Group about it and he said, absolutely.

03:46:00.000 If you've already gotten your gallbladder removed... It's probably better because it'll help your liver.

03:46:04.000 Yes, it's going to help your liver because now your liver is having to work overtime in order to cleanse.

03:46:09.000 And regardless of how you eat, you're constantly going to get fluoride in the water, tap water, the air that's around us, car, the fumes from automobiles.

03:46:19.000 I mean, so everybody needs to do this at least once a year, I would say.

03:46:25.000 Okay, let's go to Todd in Florida.

03:46:28.000 Hey, Todd.

03:46:30.000 Yeah?

03:46:31.000 Go ahead.

03:46:32.000 How are you?

03:46:33.000 I'm good, thank you.

03:46:35.000 And I know you are.

03:46:36.000 Hey, I did this about eight months ago, and it was quite by accident.

03:46:43.000 What I did was, um, Beyoncé and Tangerine, I love that stuff.

03:46:48.000 And because I'm 54 years old, I have the body of a Spartan.

03:46:54.000 If I do say so myself.

03:46:56.000 I would mix up my Beyond Pain Tangerine with a quarter teaspoon of inlaying salt and an ounce and a half of the Braggs and four teaspoons of sugar.

03:47:20.000 Because, I mean, that stuff, that mixture is kind of hard to choke down.

03:47:23.000 And that was organic sugar, by the way.

03:47:27.000 All of a sudden I'm noticing I don't remember eating marbles.

03:47:32.000 Yeah.

03:47:33.000 Literally, there were hundreds of these things that I ejected.

03:47:40.000 It was awesome.

03:47:43.000 I put the nascent iodine in the mixture also.

03:47:47.000 And like I said, I'm 54 years old.

03:47:47.000 Nice.

03:47:49.000 I used to weigh 200 pounds.

03:47:50.000 I weigh 140 now.

03:47:50.000 And I feel fantastic.

03:47:51.000 Wow.

03:47:51.000 I weigh 200 pounds, I weigh 140 now, and I feel fantastic.

03:47:56.000 - Wow, that's, yeah. - Especially with liver glands.

03:48:01.000 - Well, that is really good to hear, Todd.

03:48:02.000 I love hearing about so many people here educating themselves, doing it the right way, being healthy, and taking care of yourself before you have to go to the doctor that's going to want to do that extreme surgery.

03:48:15.000 So Todd, thank you so much.

03:48:16.000 That's really great to hear.

03:48:17.000 Now, if you want to see our before and after photos, I think they said they've got them ready.

03:48:22.000 Like I said, mine are before and almost after because I'm not done with my flush.

03:48:27.000 But you can see those if you go to InfoWars.com forward slash show.

03:48:33.000 Whoa, Emi, flash!

03:48:35.000 I was, I promise you, I promise you, I was not sticking out in that first picture.

03:48:40.000 I just literally was relaxed and even in the second picture I was relaxed, but like, Look, it's crazy.

03:48:47.000 I can see my back.

03:48:49.000 No, I know.

03:48:49.000 I can see the muscles in my stomach.

03:48:51.000 It's nuts.

03:48:52.000 And my legs.

03:48:53.000 I feel like my legs look skinnier.

03:48:54.000 I don't know.

03:48:55.000 I started off at like a, I mean, for my height, I'm almost 5'9", so I started off at Relatively healthy weight because I had done the liver cleanse in July and then I went straight into working on a production for three months where I was working 18 hour days on my feet doing like eight miles a day.

03:49:11.000 So I mean I wasn't super out of shape but when I started that first liver cleanse I was pretty out of shape.

03:49:16.000 You said you're actually at the lowest weight of your, well in a decade I guess.

03:49:16.000 So that before and after.

03:49:21.000 Yeah pretty much.

03:49:22.000 I'm almost back to where when I was a fitness model.

03:49:26.000 Do they have mine before and all those afters?

03:49:28.000 Are we going to hold those off?

03:49:29.000 Oh my goodness gracious! 0.99

03:49:32.000 Look at you!

03:49:32.000 Yeah, I can see it in your arms and your legs.

03:49:35.000 Well, where I really see it and where I really wanted it was in my sides.

03:49:40.000 I guess you would call that the spare tire and you can actually see where there's that little roll.

03:49:44.000 Oh my god, this is so embarrassing.

03:49:47.000 There's that little roll kind of on the back fat and you can see it's Gone away.

03:49:52.000 Look at your chin.

03:49:52.000 Look below your chin, though.

03:49:54.000 Oh my gosh!

03:49:54.000 You see, you lose a little bit in your face, too.

03:49:57.000 That's where I saw it big time the first time around.

03:49:59.000 There you go, everyone.

03:50:00.000 Before and afters.

03:50:01.000 And like I said, mine is not even an after yet.

03:50:03.000 I should probably take more pictures later when all the sodium has...

03:50:08.000 I wanted to address something that a lot of the skeptics on the cleanse talk about the globules and that being just the oil coming out because the first time I did the cleanse I did the saltwater flush and globules I'm talking good-sized ones and the small-sized ones, and they were the neon green.

03:50:30.000 They looked exactly like the gallstones that Group had, you know, and Googling pictures, they look exactly like the gallstones.

03:50:36.000 And those came out before I even chugged the olive oil.

03:50:39.000 Right.

03:50:40.000 And there you go.

03:50:40.000 And it's the liver shield that actually helps to soften up the gallbladder, prepare you for that, so those globules can start coming out.

03:50:48.000 And so there you go.

03:50:49.000 It was before you even took the olive oil there, for all you naysayers.

03:50:53.000 But we also have some, you know, documentation that that is the case as well.

03:50:57.000 All right, Emmy, Robin, thank you so much.

03:50:59.000 You guys, stick around.

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03:54:07.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

03:54:18.000 You're listening to the 4th Hour Overdrive.

03:54:21.000 I am Leanne McAdoo, joined by Emmy Robyn and Jakari Jackson.

03:54:25.000 Now, we were just talking about our before and after photos.

03:54:29.000 After enduring the liver shield cleanse for the last six days, I gotta say it was completely awesome until I OD'd on sodium last night.

03:54:38.000 So, Jakari, you know, what do you think?

03:54:41.000 You were here witnessing the ups and downs.

03:54:45.000 Well, the ladies seem a lot happier.

03:54:47.000 They are, like Leigh-Anne said, their skin is glowing.

03:54:50.000 They lost a little bit of weight.

03:54:52.000 So, not just on the outside, but on the inside as well.

03:54:55.000 You know, that's one of the very important things the group always talks about.

03:54:58.000 We always talk about cleansing the outside of our bodies to make sure your hair and makeup and all this stuff look nice.

03:55:03.000 But to get the inside of your body cleaned out is, you know, something that's very important.

03:55:08.000 And I definitely applaud you ladies for doing it because nobody else wanted to.

03:55:12.000 So thank you for being the guinea pigs and now that everybody can see the results, maybe more people will take a look into it.

03:55:18.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and put those before and after.

03:55:20.000 I think you've got some more, some different angles.

03:55:23.000 You guys, take it easy on me, all right?

03:55:26.000 I... Oh, wow.

03:55:28.000 It's so noticeable there.

03:55:30.000 Your body just like flattened out because she did the cleanse properly last night.

03:55:36.000 She's an advanced cleanser. 0.97

03:55:39.000 Look at these fitness models here.

03:55:41.000 Oh man.

03:55:42.000 Zachari, I don't know if, I mean it's, you like to fast pretty much every single month and I think you're, you know, obviously it's great physically but more so you're, you are looking into that spiritual aspect of it as well.

03:55:53.000 Right.

03:55:54.000 Which now I totally get it.

03:55:56.000 Yeah, I fast probably, you know, try to do a couple days a month, ideally once a week, ideally being the key word.

03:56:04.000 And I usually just go, you know, 24 hours, whatever, just drinking juice or water.

03:56:09.000 And over this past weekend, I did do two days, but then we went out with Joe, one of our camera guys, and I ate a lot of stuff on his birthday, so I probably gained all that weight right back, but... I avoided that get-together.

03:56:21.000 Yeah, well, it was a good time.

03:56:23.000 All in attendance had a great time.

03:56:25.000 But, you know, as you were alluding to, it's not just for the physical aspects, but it's the spiritual as well.

03:56:30.000 Uh, it took me some getting used to because I used to eat a lot.

03:56:33.000 I still do eat a lot, but you know, coming from high school, you know, we worked out twice a day and all that stuff.

03:56:38.000 I kind of kept that mentality.

03:56:39.000 So to go just two days without food was really hard in the beginning, but you get used to it as time goes on.

03:56:45.000 Yeah, no, you absolutely do.

03:56:46.000 And I get it now because I'm always giving you a hard time.

03:56:49.000 I'm like, oh, you're not eating.

03:56:51.000 Oh, my gosh.

03:56:52.000 There's the before and after.

03:56:53.000 Oh, wow.

03:56:55.000 You could see how bloated I was before, and that's why I was so unhappy with my midsection.

03:56:59.000 You don't have anything that hangs over the side in that.

03:57:02.000 I know, there's no more muffin top!

03:57:07.000 But look at your face, too!

03:57:08.000 That's embarrassing.

03:57:10.000 Still.

03:57:11.000 Alright, well, Jakari, what's coming up on the news tonight?

03:57:13.000 Well, we'll take a look at maybe some more of these pictures of you.

03:57:17.000 Ladies, we're also going to talk about all the things, the hot topics that are going on in the news.

03:57:21.000 Don has a new article out about how a restaurant that recently got robbed is opening up and they're giving a discount to concealed carriers because, you know, they want to make sure those type of things don't happen there again.

03:57:32.000 Also, we're going to look a little more in depth on the transhumanist issue.

03:57:36.000 We have the guests on the show today, so we can go back and play some reports from the vault so everybody can get a real Well-rounded look at the issue.

03:57:43.000 Right, yeah.

03:57:45.000 We brought someone here with the transhumanist movement in who's very happy about where he thinks the world is headed and going along with that.

03:57:54.000 Oh, and also Joe Biggs is doing a new ad for the Hillary for Prison t-shirt.

03:57:59.000 So you guys definitely want to check that out.

03:58:01.000 He's like, you know, the man for this.

03:58:04.000 Like he says, those shirts are selling out faster than Hillary Clinton.

03:58:09.000 That's great.

03:58:10.000 And also, I think he was still doing that thing, if you can get Hillary to sign the t-shirt or wear the t-shirt. 0.96

03:58:15.000 Yes.

03:58:16.000 I'll even put in, he put in $100, I'll put in $100.

03:58:18.000 Wow, $200!

03:58:18.000 Yeah, we'll probably, we'll send you like t-shirts and stuff.

03:58:22.000 Get your shirt signed by Hillary. 0.98

03:58:24.000 Yeah, it'll be more than $200.

03:58:24.000 We'll give you something good, but just whoever gets it, just go ahead and keep going after it.

03:58:29.000 Free liver shield cleanse.

03:58:31.000 Yeah, well, don't throw that out there.

03:58:33.000 All right, well, Like I said, Liver Shield is back in stock.

03:58:36.000 It's on sale, so get yours today.

03:58:39.000 Experience the power of the cleanse.

03:58:42.000 All right, tune in to InfoWars Nightly News tonight, 7 p.m.

03:58:45.000 Central with Jakari Jackson.

03:58:50.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

03:58:54.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

03:58:59.000 Clean, pure drinking water.

Alex Jones Show - October 26, 2015

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