Alex Jones Show - 20160101_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:14.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:16.000 Government cover-offs.

00:00:19.000 You want answers?

00:00:20.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:22.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones just had a nice talk with Michael Savage during the break and he said, uh, Alex, you're the only host that gets me to blow my voice out.

00:00:38.000 You bring out my, my, my anger.

00:00:39.000 I'm going to have to air this interview on my show today.

00:00:41.000 And I said, yes, permission.

00:00:43.000 I said, of course, feel free to do it.

00:00:44.000 He's still going to be live later this afternoon, but part of the show will be this last hour, uh, because he did, did just blow his voice out.

00:00:51.000 He was coughing during the break, uh, because it is, we're being assaulted.

00:00:55.000 And even if you don't agree with me a hundred percent or Michael Savage, a hundred percent, We are being conquered.

00:01:01.000 And we're not being conquered like, you know, the Romans show up and they give you aqueducts, and you're still kind of a slave, but, you know, it's better than the slavery you had a year before.

00:01:09.000 Because you could argue some of those regimes, you know, about 2,000 years ago, 3,000 years ago, 2,200 years ago, when the Roman Empire started up, were worse than the Romans.

00:01:22.000 It's not like loving space aliens have showed up that want to give us free energy.

00:01:25.000 It's like aliens have showed up that want to harvest our organs or something.

00:01:30.000 And I'm not saying the globalists are aliens.

00:01:31.000 It's an analogy.

00:01:32.000 They don't have our best interest at heart.

00:01:35.000 They have disdain for the public.

00:01:37.000 They live on these giant, beautiful resort community areas on thousands of acres apiece.

00:01:45.000 People like Pelosi and others.

00:01:47.000 And then they're at war with free market rich people, because I know, I've been in these communities, I know a lot of rich people, I've been invited to some very interesting places, and they'll be like helicopter pads across the way, and they'll say, yeah, that guy's the CEO of this, you know, he hates my guts, and this guy over here is okay, but he's leaving the country. 0.99

00:02:06.000 And that lady over there, I'm kind of working on her, but you know, she's just ignorant. 1.00

00:02:09.000 She got ignorant people that are ultra-rich. 0.99

00:02:11.000 You got really hard-working folks that made their money themselves or took some family money and made it even bigger. 0.95

00:02:16.000 They're almost always free market.

00:02:18.000 They believe in people.

00:02:19.000 They believe in humanity.

00:02:21.000 They like getting down in the trenches.

00:02:22.000 They're not disgusted by the masses of people.

00:02:26.000 But you get around a globalist gangster. 0.99

00:02:29.000 They are the most neurotic weirdos. 0.99

00:02:31.000 Their staff won't look them in the eyes. 1.00

00:02:34.000 They're totally hateful. 0.97

00:02:36.000 They're super cold. 1.00

00:02:38.000 They're always into beating people sexually. 0.99

00:02:46.000 That's what the elites are into is hurting people. 0.99

00:02:48.000 That's their sexual fetish. 0.99

00:02:50.000 I don't mean like some light spanking or something. 0.99

00:02:52.000 I mean really brutal stuff. 0.76

00:02:54.000 And they're into being brutalized.

00:02:56.000 They like hurting good things. 0.94

00:03:00.000 Pedophilia is rampant in the elites.

00:03:03.000 Just, just, just rampant.

00:03:05.000 And you see that in sociology, it comes out, but it's much worse than the statistics show.

00:03:09.000 It is... I know so many people that also know really rich people, some of the biggest names in America, and I'll say, at dinner I'll say, tell me, what are they into sexually?

00:03:25.000 And I'll say, what are they into religiously?

00:03:27.000 And always out of the person's mouth is, Satanism?

00:03:30.000 The occult?

00:03:34.000 I mean, these are really unhappy people.

00:03:37.000 And that's all they've got is the darkness.

00:03:38.000 And I don't mean some guy that goes to a rock and roll show and wears a pentagram t-shirt because he thinks the devil's cool.

00:03:44.000 I mean people with helicopters and 15 jets and 20 mansions and, you know, had mistresses when they were 15 years old and now have, you know, just sex operatives all over the place. 0.89

00:03:55.000 I mean, these folks are completely jacked.

00:04:01.000 And they know talent when they see it, too.

00:04:05.000 They know resistance when they see it.

00:04:09.000 And I told people this 18 years ago, and I've told people this over time, and now folks can see that it was true.

00:04:18.000 A lot of it's come out in the news, but I personally was offered, you know, to join the New World Order repeatedly.

00:04:28.000 Off record, and people say, well just tell us who.

00:04:31.000 Well then if I do that, I've lost the confidence.

00:04:33.000 I don't, even if it's a bad person, if they're not telling me something illegal, and it's in confidence, I don't ever tell them.

00:04:38.000 I don't ever tell.

00:04:39.000 I don't tell my wife about it.

00:04:43.000 Plus it's dangerous, dangerous type stuff, but...

00:04:47.000 This morning I was on the elliptical and I really had a big epiphany.

00:04:50.000 I was watching some show called Bling on VH1.

00:04:53.000 They had it on.

00:04:54.000 I wasn't watching it.

00:04:55.000 And it was just flashing this purse, this car, this thing for the masses to watch. 1.00

00:04:59.000 It was just the most soul-sucking garbage. 0.99

00:05:01.000 And it's like, who would sell out for that? 1.00

00:05:03.000 To hang around with a bunch of those mummies. 0.99

00:05:09.000 Bill Cosby has been charged with drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in 2004. 0.97

00:05:15.000 Crimes punishable by 5 to 10 years in prison and a $25,000 fine.

00:05:19.000 But what about the other Bill?

00:05:21.000 Former US President Bill Clinton, whose past predatory behavior is once again in the spotlight after Hillary tried unsuccessfully to play the sexism card against Trump.

00:05:31.000 For years, Bill Cosby continued raking in millions while the media covered up his dirt in order to preserve his legacy.

00:05:37.000 But even after exposing years of predatory sexual behavior, Bill Clinton remains a highly revered member of the Democratic Party, pulling in tens of millions of dollars in speaking fees while Hillary was Secretary of State.

00:05:50.000 For someone running a campaign on female empowerment, Hillary can't seem to shake accusations that she defamed, threatened, and attempted to personally destroy Bill's bimbos in order to silence them and protect their abuser and her rise to power. 1.00

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00:08:13.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:39.000 Well, I could not think of a better guest to have on to give us more information about the Benghazi hearings and about the current situation that he predicted back when Benghazi happened, now unfolding in Syria.

00:08:56.000 And that's because he ran Operation Stratus, Ivy, Able Danger and other secret operations against Al Qaeda and the Wahhabis in Afghanistan and other countries. 0.80

00:09:06.000 And he was ordered not once but twice to not pull the trigger to kill bin Laden when they knew exactly where he was in 2001 before 9-11.

00:09:16.000 We just, of course, had Michael Savage on in the last hour.

00:09:18.000 Dr. Jerome Corsi's coming up in the next hour.

00:09:20.000 Colonel Schaeffer joins us for the next 20 minutes.

00:09:23.000 LondonCenter.org is one of the consultancies he is engaged in.

00:09:29.000 He, of course, blew the whistle about some of the stand-downs going after Bin Laden.

00:09:32.000 They tried to persecute him as a whistleblower, but he survived that thanks to support.

00:09:37.000 He's also a best-selling author and has a new book out we'll tell you about as well.

00:09:42.000 But before we do that, I've just got to say, well, Colonel Schaefer, it's got to be good for you, being one of the first people to expose what was happening in Benghazi, and I know taking a lot of heat, but now see more and more of it come out.

00:09:56.000 Has that taken some of the heat off you?

00:09:58.000 Well, yes and no, Alex.

00:10:00.000 I mean, I think you and others have supported me on this from day one.

00:10:03.000 Thank you.

00:10:03.000 With that said, it's been a very unpopular position even now because, you know, at the heart of this is really Hillary Clinton, who is the chosen one for the Democrat candidacy for president.

00:10:16.000 So as much as I think rational people Uh, and by the way, I've been getting questions from the left, from my friends on the left, saying, hey, do you really think this is all true?

00:10:25.000 It's like, yeah, it's all true.

00:10:27.000 And, uh, I think the hearings should have, if it was a Democrat, uh, Congress questioning a Republican candidate, it would have been a little over for that candidate.

00:10:35.000 But instead, the very email, Alex, which they have completely chosen, showed that she, she, Ms.

00:10:42.000 Clinton was lying.

00:10:44.000 And even at the end, when they ask her about the arms deal, which by the way, has been highly documented.

00:10:49.000 By the investigation, by whistleblowers, everybody knows there was an arms deal at the heart of Benghazi.

00:10:55.000 She got away with lying about that, which, frankly, at this point, my understanding is that Congress is now looking at perjury charges because they have evidence that she did know about the arms deal of trying to get these arms moved around Libya, moving them into Turkey, which then in turn, they would be moved into Syria.

00:11:12.000 And by the way, another guy who I respect immensely was involved in that.

00:11:16.000 Lieutenant General Mike Flynn, the director of BIA, has admitted on the record that, yes, he was part of the arms deal.

00:11:22.000 He was directed to do this sort of thing.

00:11:23.000 So, Alex, there's just no doubt about what was at the center of Benghazi.

00:11:28.000 And yet the mainstream media continues to ignore it.

00:11:31.000 And people like me continue to, you know, media matters even now consistently says that somehow I'm fantasizing about what happened in Benghazi.

00:11:41.000 It's truly bizarre.

00:11:42.000 Well, you were one of the first within a week of it happening to come on this show and to go on Fox and other channels and talk about an arms deal, talk about the Turkish ambassador, to break down what happened, to warn about missiles getting into the hands of Al-Qaeda.

00:11:57.000 The fact that ISIS, once it came up a few years ago, you said no.

00:12:01.000 That is a Wahhabist group as well.

00:12:02.000 Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda.

00:12:04.000 That's all been proven to be accurate now.

00:12:07.000 And we see this whole thing metastasizing.

00:12:09.000 You said last year that there should be criminal charges in a Newsmax article for Hillary and the clear cover-up. 0.68

00:12:16.000 So I would imagine that in a way you might be under more heat now because it is an election year.

00:12:23.000 This is interesting because Yes and no.

00:12:23.000 Why?

00:12:27.000 Because clearly, Alex, part of the issue now becomes talking to the other side.

00:12:31.000 The Republicans use this to their advantage.

00:12:33.000 So, I think if Hillary does survive the primaries, the Republicans are going to go into this with a great deal of ammunition to use against her. 0.84

00:12:41.000 Because this is all, again, on the record.

00:12:42.000 So, yeah, I think my Democrat friends are pretty upset with me about the fact that, you know, there are Democrats who actually recognize what's going on, but because they're so loyal to their party, they choose to look the other way.

00:12:56.000 And those are the guys I think I'm in most with odds with.

00:12:58.000 But then again, you know, we've talked to, part of what I do, my job is to talk to presidential candidates.

00:13:05.000 I can't say by name who they are, but we've talked to them all as best we can.

00:13:09.000 And the idea is we're going to give them factual information that is based on what is known and can be proven via hard copy documents.

00:13:19.000 So this now, at this point, like you point out, Alex, this is all hard copy, well-researched, fully recognized as fact, that there was an arms deal, that Hillary Clinton was involved, that the deal went bad, and she knew the night of the attack, or the day after, the 12th of September, That you had Al-Qaeda terrorists involved.

00:13:42.000 And frankly, I still stand by my belief that they were fully willing to allow Chris Stevens to go to his death knowing something was going to happen.

00:13:50.000 Well, I've interviewed other whistleblowers after you've been on, Tosh Plumley, others, CIA pilots and others.

00:13:50.000 Sure.

00:13:57.000 And I've talked to other military people.

00:13:58.000 I'm just going to leave it at that.

00:14:00.000 It's known that there were drones overhead.

00:14:02.000 You said that years ago.

00:14:03.000 It's come out.

00:14:04.000 You've come out and said you've gotten intel that Obama was watching a part of the seven hours as it unfolded.

00:14:10.000 I stick by that comment.

00:14:12.000 Yes.

00:14:13.000 Well, this is just outrageous then.

00:14:14.000 I mean, is it an arms deal and they didn't know what to do?

00:14:18.000 Or does it go further?

00:14:19.000 Did somebody in a government outside of Al Qaeda want to get rid of the ambassador so there wouldn't be any fingerprints on this arms transfer?

00:14:31.000 Well, it's very clear at this point that Stevens was the key.

00:14:35.000 He was the pivotal, the pivot man.

00:14:37.000 He knew everything.

00:14:38.000 He was involved.

00:14:40.000 You know, it was his interest to do this.

00:14:42.000 They really thought, Alex, at the time, and this is one of the big misconceptions I think we're going to continue to face for this, for this mistake for years, that the Muslim Brotherhood could be a trusted ally.

00:14:52.000 That they would be a good ally, a good proxy to work with us in place of our other Arab allies.

00:14:58.000 And that was what their assumption was.

00:15:00.000 So I think when they started seeing that the Brotherhood was not going to be a good partner, they were too far in to say, we can't, we can't stop it.

00:15:07.000 I think they got themselves in over their head.

00:15:10.000 I think Chris Stevens was part of that, that completely ill-thought, badly managed effort to bring the Brotherhood into essentially our sphere of influence.

00:15:19.000 And I think because of that, because they all start going bad. 1.00

00:15:22.000 And look, Hillary Clinton is not a stupid woman at all. 1.00

00:15:25.000 I think they recognized that as much as they needed to get rid of information to get rid of people, this was a good way to let things fly. 0.99

00:15:32.000 And that's why you didn't see.

00:15:33.000 I mean, Alex, think about this.

00:15:35.000 This was about a little more than two months out before a major presidential election.

00:15:41.000 How is it you don't do maximum effort to go recover an ambassador who goes missing?

00:15:45.000 Think about that.

00:15:46.000 If it was under any other president that I know of, that would have been the primary thing.

00:15:50.000 Everybody would have been scrambling to figure out where he was at.

00:15:52.000 Well, we know they were countermanning the orders of the military to save these people.

00:15:58.000 And so when they get caught, I mean, we know they did it, it's going to bring them all down.

00:16:02.000 And so, as you stipulate, there is documentary evidence again that someone ordered every command.

00:16:09.000 Keep in mind, Alex, there's an automatic process.

00:16:11.000 Once a terror attack is undergoing, Once an MFP is under siege, there's an automatic process which kicks in.

00:16:17.000 It's basically the worst case scenario, people start moving.

00:16:21.000 Someone called around to every command and control headquarters and stopped it.

00:16:25.000 So that means someone had to literally intercede directly in stopping all of the military actions from occurring.

00:16:32.000 And this remains one of those areas where we know bits and pieces.

00:16:35.000 We don't know the whole picture.

00:16:36.000 But, yes, someone did order all the forces which would have been scrambling to get to Libya to stand down.

00:16:42.000 So why would you do that?

00:16:43.000 Let me ask you this big question.

00:16:46.000 Now that we see the aftermath years later, ISIS, which is just al-Qaeda, as you do in your organization, You go around, educate Congress, you educate the candidates.

00:16:56.000 You're in an info war with the truth, when the White House three years ago was saying, oh these are all good rebels, they're wonderful.

00:17:02.000 You went and exposed with other military people that it was almost all radical Saudi Arabian Wahhabis.

00:17:08.000 So they clearly know that.

00:17:09.000 Then what are they thinking?

00:17:11.000 What's the endgame?

00:17:12.000 Where is this going?

00:17:13.000 What are they going to do?

00:17:14.000 Like I asked you years ago when this first happened.

00:17:16.000 What are they going to do?

00:17:18.000 When radicals use those Stinger missiles and other service air missiles to shoot down airliners, they can't cover it all up.

00:17:24.000 What's going to unfold?

00:17:25.000 What were they thinking?

00:17:26.000 I mean, you know in the old days, just 15 years ago, you used to run missions.

00:17:30.000 Some of it's come out in the news.

00:17:31.000 Trying to find old Stingers, you guys would go through all sorts of hell just to get a few old Stingers.

00:17:37.000 Now you've got hundreds of modern ones being given to these crazies. 0.79

00:17:42.000 What is the establishment thinking?

00:17:45.000 Well, at this point in time, I think that's part of the issue.

00:17:47.000 They got completely out of control.

00:17:49.000 They know, for example, Alex, that these things are kind of scattered all over.

00:17:54.000 And I think this is where the real fear remains, because the last time a credible terrorist organization tried this was Al-Qaeda in 2002 in Kenya, where they attempted to take down two Israeli charter aircraft.

00:18:06.000 It didn't work for any number of reasons, thank goodness, but imagine now we have that situation where Al-Qaeda does have, and ISIS does have, Literally crazy these things.

00:18:16.000 And I think this is where we don't know what's going on and I think we're blind.

00:18:19.000 What's the endgame?

00:18:20.000 Well, I don't know exactly what the leadership was thinking other than they thought they could cut deals with some of these really worst of the worst terrorists to think that they could be our partners in the Middle East to bring some level of different stability.

00:18:33.000 And frankly, you know, the whole thing of trying to partner with the Free Syrian Army and the Al-Nusra Front, it was all ill-conceived.

00:18:41.000 But I think, to be honest with you, there's an arrogance on the left, Alex, that permeates their thinking, where they think they're the smartest people in the room.

00:18:49.000 The analogy is Enron.

00:18:50.000 We had Jeffrey Skilling right down there in Texas in Enron thinking that they were the smartest guys in the room, and they could do things that no one else has ever done. 0.88

00:18:58.000 I think that thought has been one of the problems with the left, where they will think, you know, despite the fact they have all these people available to them who will help educate them, they think they're smarter than everybody else, and they go off on these really idiotic, ill-conceived concepts of operations, which result in tragedy, and I think that's what's going on here.

00:19:18.000 Well, I want to recap one of the best moments I've seen in the U.S. 0.74

00:19:22.000 Army and just the Pentagon in general, really showing some moral leadership.

00:19:28.000 I mean, I wouldn't say mutiny against the President, but just not following illegal orders.

00:19:33.000 As you know, and if you can talk about some of the inside baseball that's not classified, I'd like to hear some more.

00:19:38.000 It even came out in the news.

00:19:40.000 What, two years ago, when Rand Paul and Senator Cruz and others were saying, we're not going to be Al Qaeda's air force.

00:19:47.000 The military, even before that, was holding up the signs on the internet saying, we're not going to be in a Syrian civil war.

00:19:53.000 We're not going to back Al Qaeda. 0.95

00:19:54.000 We're not going to be part of it.

00:19:55.000 And then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs at the time, General Dempsey, on that Saturday night, went to Obama.

00:20:01.000 And it even came out later.

00:20:02.000 I was told this, but it came out months later.

00:20:04.000 It said, do not do this.

00:20:06.000 You cannot do it.

00:20:07.000 It is insane.

00:20:08.000 The military isn't going to go along with it.

00:20:09.000 That is such a historic moment.

00:20:11.000 And that's got to really concern the criminals that are running this government.

00:20:16.000 I'm just going to say it.

00:20:18.000 That's like a moment where it's not Operation Valkyrie with the military trying to take out Hitler in Germany.

00:20:24.000 It's just the military saying, we're not going to follow that order.

00:20:27.000 Well, everybody recognized, Alex, that the people we were trying to support were indeed completely affiliated, if not wholly owned, by Al-Qaeda.

00:20:34.000 So why would you do that?

00:20:35.000 And this is where, you know, the solution would be worse than the problem.

00:20:39.000 Look, no doubt here, President Assad is a bad guy. 0.99

00:20:42.000 He has killed his own people. 1.00

00:20:44.000 He is truly a despot. 0.82

00:20:46.000 But, frankly, we recognize what happened in Libya when we allowed for those elements to include Al-Qaeda.

00:20:53.000 And by the way, do you remember, Alex, Al-Qaddafi was warning us, saying, hey, these people who are opposing me are not the simple, you know, revolutionary thinkers who want democracy.

00:21:03.000 These folks are Al-Qaeda. 0.66

00:21:05.000 And sure enough, we have a combination of Al-Qaeda and ISIS now running Libya.

00:21:09.000 So this is clearly something the military and the people I deal with understood from day one.

00:21:14.000 You cannot bring in al-Qaeda thinking that they're going to be an ally to keep rid of Assad and think somehow they're going to continue to support your position.

00:21:22.000 We tried this in Afghanistan.

00:21:23.000 We helped create something called the Akhani Network as part of the Pakistani intelligence service back in the 80s to go against the Russians.

00:21:33.000 Well, once the Russians left, the Connie Network supported coming after us. 0.97

00:21:37.000 They've been one of the main killers of US and Afghan forces since we've been there. 0.64

00:21:43.000 So we cannot believe for a minute that Al-Qaeda or its affiliates or anyone who believes like Al-Qaeda can be dealt with in a friendly way to achieve a short-term objective They're not going to come back after us to attack us after that fact.

00:21:57.000 I think Dempsey recognized that.

00:21:58.000 A number of us recognize that.

00:22:00.000 But again, we have these political leaders who, Alex, think they're smarter than everybody else, and they continue to try to do these truly insane, dangerous things.

00:22:09.000 Colonel Schaffer is our guest, LondonCenter.org.

00:22:12.000 Just segwaying briefly, one of your latest books predicts the breakdown of the border, basically a soft civil war.

00:22:20.000 This was two years ago.

00:22:21.000 You said, watch, it's coming.

00:22:22.000 This is a lot of stuff I couldn't put in a non-fiction book, so I put it in a fiction book.

00:22:27.000 I want to talk about that book some.

00:22:29.000 I want to talk about what's happening in Europe. 1.00

00:22:30.000 But the controlled left, they're not just this stupid. 1.00

00:22:34.000 They really hate the West. 1.00

00:22:35.000 They've said that.

00:22:36.000 The head of the UN migrant agency Peter Sutherland has said we want to get rid of Western culture.

00:22:43.000 They're bringing in, they admit, 80% military-age men.

00:22:47.000 They're mainly the folks that invaded Syria. 0.83

00:22:49.000 They're not really Syrian rebels.

00:22:50.000 I mean, I know you know all this.

00:22:51.000 They're not really Syrian refugees.

00:22:53.000 What is the plan?

00:22:54.000 Open borders here, open borders there.

00:22:57.000 What is the left trying to do?

00:22:59.000 Why are they so affiliated with radical Islamists that would put a hood over their wife's head and literally not let women drive cars?

00:23:06.000 Why is the left supporting these people?

00:23:09.000 Well, I think the left is essentially the vanguard of the third world. 0.79

00:23:12.000 I mean, I had a friend of mine basically posit that this morning.

00:23:15.000 Basically, they are the third world, and they're trying to make cuts to the third world. 0.99

00:23:20.000 So that's why you see this sort of thing.

00:23:21.000 They want to import people who will radicalize, who will de-establish the basic Western principles which have made us very strong.

00:23:29.000 The conditions that we've created in the West, Alex, for better or for worse, are the best mankind has ever seen.

00:23:34.000 We have the most people ever who have clean water, clean homes, It used to be a good healthcare system which is now being diminished by Obamacare and again this third world idea that we have to essentially treat everybody the same.

00:23:47.000 That's what they want.

00:23:48.000 This idea, they use fairness as a value to say, you know, Alex, you live too high.

00:23:54.000 You shouldn't be living as well as you do.

00:23:55.000 You shouldn't have a nice car.

00:23:56.000 You should be living at a level like someone lives in, say, rural Kenya. 0.99

00:24:01.000 And their idea of fairness is we're all the same.

00:24:03.000 And anything extraordinary, anything that's good or bad, it's all the same.

00:24:07.000 So I think that's why you see the left work so hard here to destabilize every Western nation.

00:24:12.000 And that's something we have to be aware of.

00:24:14.000 And then you've got these ultra-rich that make their money off of government contracts, waging war against new rich who actually create jobs and wealth, teaming up with the third world. 0.93

00:24:23.000 It is just sickening to watch.

00:24:25.000 Well, here's the key.

00:24:27.000 You predicted, it's just crazy how accurate you've been, Colonel Schaefer. 0.98

00:24:30.000 I'm not kissing your butt, it's just no brag, just fact. 0.81

00:24:32.000 You predicted right when Benghazi happened that next is Syria, then you said next is Europe. 0.98

00:24:38.000 What are they going to do?

00:24:38.000 I think it's not a question of if but when.

00:24:41.000 They try, or they succeed, to shoot down one or more major passenger liners on the outskirts, maybe Eastern Europe, Russia, wherever they can get these missiles.

00:24:50.000 Can they get the missiles into Western Europe?

00:24:52.000 Can they get them into the U.S.?

00:24:54.000 How long until that happens, or am I wrong?

00:24:56.000 Can we stop it?

00:24:57.000 And then, what do you see happening in Syria?

00:24:59.000 Well, this is kind of a twofer.

00:25:02.000 What you see right now, as you point out aptly, is that these males These so-called refugees are actually military-age males are going in as a vanguard. 0.97

00:25:10.000 And the first thing you do as a terrorist organization, Alex, you set up a trusted network, a clandestine network.

00:25:14.000 Once you have the network in place, you can move these things around with impunity.

00:25:18.000 Right now, they don't have a trusted network that can do that.

00:25:20.000 You saw the attacks in France where ISIS and al-Qaeda was able to do a few things under the radar.

00:25:26.000 They're finding AK-47s full auto from the Middle East now in France.

00:25:31.000 So that was it.

00:25:31.000 Exactly.

00:25:32.000 That was the first test.

00:25:33.000 Okay, it works.

00:25:34.000 So now then, if you see it works, then you expand it.

00:25:37.000 So now you see the expansion of phase one of getting all these people into Europe and setting up trusted client-vested networks.

00:25:43.000 After the network's in place, Alex, they can move the vessels around with security.

00:25:47.000 There's no way law enforcement or intelligence can stop and search every single vehicle moving around, or every single boat coming in and out.

00:25:54.000 So again, once you flood the market, so to speak, it makes it infinitely easier to move weapons such as stingers around.

00:26:02.000 You can deal with an AK-47 on a low scale, basically increased by an order of magnitude, and then you can do it with impunity.

00:26:08.000 That's where they're going with all this.

00:26:11.000 The Russians, where do you see the situation in Syria going?

00:26:15.000 How big of a defeat to Obama was it that Putin came in?

00:26:19.000 Do you think the Russians are being suckered into a new Afghanistan?

00:26:22.000 What about the plane being shot down?

00:26:24.000 I think the Russians are seeing, I think it was an attack, I think it was done by a Lockerbie type attack where you had a bomb on the aircraft or a suicide bomber.

00:26:34.000 All the pictures I've seen, Alex, it's a case to me that it was an explosion from the inside, not an explosion from the outside.

00:26:40.000 Got it.

00:26:40.000 So, bomb inside.

00:26:41.000 Right.

00:26:42.000 And so, I think the Russians have got their first real casualties in the war, and God bless them, I'm glad they're gone. 1.00

00:26:47.000 They need to stabilize Syria.

00:26:49.000 Again, this is our one joint objective, it should be, is stabilizing Syria.

00:26:53.000 Even if you don't like Assad, stabilize Syria, because otherwise you're going to continue to see al-Qaeda and ISIS Kind of using that region as a base of operation.

00:27:01.000 And of course, Al Qaeda hits Russia even more than they hit us on average. 0.69

00:27:05.000 Right.

00:27:07.000 What do you expect the Russians to do if some of the voices calling for some type of military containment or a no-fly zone? 0.93

00:27:15.000 I mean, we've all heard the talk from former generals, let's start killing Russians. 1.00

00:27:20.000 That's some really dangerous talk. 0.97

00:27:22.000 It is.

00:27:22.000 No, the Russians are doing what I think we should have been doing.

00:27:25.000 I think it's why it's such a big blow to President Obama, frankly, Alex.

00:27:28.000 And with that said, you know, our military, I've talked to the folks in the Senate, our military will continue to conduct itself professionally with the Russians.

00:27:35.000 We're not going to do anything to antagonize them as much as I think that can't be said of the other side.

00:27:41.000 With that said, we've got to come to an agreement of what we're focused on regarding joint objectives.

00:27:45.000 Unfortunately, long term, we have to accept, Alex, that they're trying to put together what I would call the Damascus Pact, essentially a form of the Warsaw Pact in the Middle East where they're joining the Iranians Yes. 0.77

00:27:55.000 Sure, let's not romanticize Russia.

00:27:57.000 And we have to look at how we can counter that long term.

00:27:59.000 But for now, we have joint objectives regarding stabilizing Syria and trying to stabilize the region.

00:28:05.000 That's what we should focus on.

00:28:06.000 Sure, let's not romanticize Russia. 0.94

00:28:07.000 Their elites are just as corrupt as some of ours. 0.98

00:28:09.000 But we can't lose the moral high ground and back a jihad al-Qaeda army to run around murdering hundreds of thousands of Christians. 0.97

00:28:18.000 You hit the nail on the head.

00:28:18.000 Absolutely.

00:28:19.000 And I think that's what we need to do.

00:28:20.000 Let's understand that Russians and us, if we share that one focus area, we should focus on that for now and then worry about what to do after that, after we defeat ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

00:28:29.000 I really appreciate you giving us time.

00:28:31.000 LondonCenter.org.

00:28:32.000 Spend a minute on your books you've written and the one predicting the border situation.

00:28:38.000 Well, the last line, Alex, you've done a great job of allowing me to talk about it.

00:28:42.000 Look, we recognize that you live there more than I do.

00:28:45.000 In fact, the border's breaking down, and people want it to break down.

00:28:49.000 So the last line, essentially, is kind of looking at all the different people who could be involved, and essentially, like you point out, a soft coup d'etat, looking at people who have interests that are really meant to undermine and soften our ability to defend the nation.

00:29:01.000 That's ongoing, and it's something we have to all be concerned about.

00:29:04.000 My first book, Operation Dark Heart, is about the war in Afghanistan and how we need to go about trying to... We can still pull a victory out there and I'm hopeful that we can do a lot more to...

00:29:15.000 It's scary to have political leadership that's never been in the military telling the military what to do and seeing these disasters.

00:29:22.000 their own political power and not protecting American people.

00:29:25.000 And that's what we should be focused on.

00:29:27.000 It's scary to have political leadership that's never been in the military telling the military what to do and then seeing these disasters.

00:29:33.000 Colonel Schaefer, thank you so much, and thank God for being there.

00:29:36.000 You're a real hero.

00:29:37.000 Not just what you did in the military, but what you've done now to get the information to Congress and the people.

00:29:43.000 It's been so accurate.

00:29:44.000 Thank you so much, Colonel.

00:29:46.000 Sure.

00:29:46.000 Thanks for having me.

00:29:47.000 You bet.

00:29:47.000 That's an amazing person right there.

00:29:49.000 He has risked his life so much domestically for what he's done on Benghazi.

00:29:52.000 That's one of the main sources that's getting close to bringing Hillary down. 1.00

00:29:55.000 Stay with us.

00:29:56.000 We'll be back.

00:29:57.000 We're on the march.

00:29:58.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:30:15.000 Crimes punishable by 5 to 10 years in prison and a $25,000 fine.

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00:30:21.000 Former US President Bill Clinton, whose past predatory behavior is once again in the spotlight after Hillary tried unsuccessfully to play the sexism card against Trump.

00:30:31.000 For years, Bill Cosby continued raking in millions while the media covered up his dirt in order to preserve his legacy.

00:30:38.000 But even after exposing years of predatory sexual behavior, Bill Clinton remains a highly revered member of the Democratic Party, pulling in tens of millions of dollars in speaking fees while Hillary was Secretary of State.

00:30:50.000 For someone running a campaign on female empowerment, Hillary can't seem to shake accusations that she defamed, threatened, and attempted to personally destroy Bill's bimbos in order to silence them and protect their abuser and her rise to power. 1.00

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00:33:32.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:33:37.000 Well, we had Matt Drudge about a month ago in studio.

00:33:40.000 Only does an interview every three, four years.

00:33:42.000 And I thought that got me excited.

00:33:44.000 But I'm telling you, Donald Trump is our guest, ladies and gentlemen, for the next 30 minutes or so.

00:33:50.000 And obviously, he is a maverick.

00:33:53.000 He's an original.

00:33:54.000 He tells it like it is.

00:33:55.000 Doesn't read off a teleprompter.

00:33:57.000 Neither do I. He's self-made.

00:33:58.000 This whole media operation that reaches 20 million people a week worldwide, conservatively, self-made.

00:34:03.000 That's why I'm so excited.

00:34:05.000 And he joins us from Trump Tower in New York City.

00:34:09.000 He is the leading 2016 Republican presidential contender.

00:34:12.000 Donald Trump, again, joins us.

00:34:15.000 And I've got so many questions.

00:34:16.000 But first off, Donald, thank you for joining us.

00:34:19.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:34:20.000 Great.

00:34:21.000 Great to be with you.

00:34:22.000 I've got so many questions, but you are vindicated.

00:34:25.000 This has got to be the 50th time the last six months on the radical Muslim celebrating not just in New Jersey, but New York, Palestine, all over. 0.95

00:34:33.000 What do you have to say?

00:34:34.000 They're still attacking you, though.

00:34:36.000 We've got Dan Rather on video.

00:34:38.000 We've got New York Post.

00:34:39.000 We've got Washington Post.

00:34:41.000 We've got, I mean, what's going on here?

00:34:44.000 Well, I took a lot of heat and I was very strong on it and I held my line and then all of a sudden, you know, hundreds of people were calling up my office.

00:34:51.000 I was the other day in Sarasota, Florida and people are in line and we had 12,000 people, which is fantastic.

00:34:57.000 And the people were saying, many of the people from New Jersey, four or five people said, Mr. Trump, I saw it myself.

00:35:03.000 They talked about Patterson.

00:35:03.000 I was there.

00:35:05.000 But they said, I saw it myself, Mr. Trump.

00:35:07.000 I was there.

00:35:08.000 So many people have called in, and on Twitter, at real Donald Trump, they're all tweeting.

00:35:13.000 So I knew it happened, and I held my line, and people wanted me to apologize, and we can't do that.

00:35:19.000 People like you and I can't do that so easily.

00:35:21.000 Now, we can do it if we're wrong, Alex.

00:35:23.000 You apologize.

00:35:24.000 I'd apologize if I was wrong.

00:35:25.000 But they were celebrating, and they were celebrating the fall of the World Trade Center.

00:35:29.000 I think that's disgraceful.

00:35:31.000 It is.

00:35:32.000 And that same week you were reporting on that fact, we had two different international football games, soccer games, with the Turkish fans and others during the moment of silence for the dead people in Paris chanting Allah Akbar and booing.

00:35:46.000 So did that not happen too?

00:35:49.000 Well, that happened and everybody saw it.

00:35:50.000 That was a week ago and the players were out on the field and they couldn't believe it.

00:35:54.000 They were embarrassed.

00:35:55.000 The coach and the managers, they all apologized, but it happened.

00:35:55.000 They didn't know what to do.

00:35:58.000 Look, we have to deal with reality.

00:36:01.000 And you know, it all started because I said, we need surveillance.

00:36:04.000 We need proper surveillance.

00:36:05.000 We have people that truly are evil and they're coming from someplace and you know sort of where they're coming from, at least the vicinity. 0.95

00:36:13.000 And I said, we need proper surveillance, whether it's a mosque or any place else, we have to be surveilled and we have to see what's coming at us because we're not going to have a country anymore between the weak borders that we have, the pathetic and weak borders where politicians are afraid to do anything about it, between all of what's happening with radical, you know, you look at what's going on, you have a president that doesn't even want to talk about, you know, the radical Muslim stuff. 0.95

00:36:39.000 He doesn't want to mention the word.

00:36:40.000 He doesn't want to say it.

00:36:42.000 But you look at what's happening where we have a president that's over there celebrating global warming and trying to get everybody excited about global warming, like that's our number one problem.

00:36:51.000 He considers that to be our number one problem.

00:36:54.000 And our number one problem is what's going on where they want to blow up our cities and they want to blow up our country.

00:36:59.000 That's our number one problem.

00:37:01.000 And then our number two problem is Crippled America, your number one New York Times bestseller. 0.86

00:37:05.000 We're going to talk about that in a few minutes, but let's continue with the number one problem, and I agree with you.

00:37:09.000 It's now in mainstream news, Associated Press and others are reporting that it's a secret deal with Turkey, with the Germans, with Merkel, the admitted socialist, to bring in millions of radical Islamists, they admit almost all of them are Sunni, that basically invaded Syria. 0.83

00:37:28.000 They're getting their butt kicked by the Russians, so now they want to flee up to the north into Turkey.

00:37:33.000 You said months ago, bomb the oil of ISIS, and the mainstream media laughed because you said the sky was blue again. 0.99

00:37:39.000 Now the Pentagon says that's the right thing to do.

00:37:42.000 And now you've come out saying, quote, it looks like That Turkey's on the side of ISIS, close quote.

00:37:50.000 Well, the next day the Russians released satellite photos documenting that there are literally thousands of trucks coming up to the border at these huge terminals connected to Irgun, the president's son, making billions of dollars total off of this.

00:38:05.000 Again, you're in trouble for saying the sky is blue.

00:38:09.000 Well, I was right about that.

00:38:10.000 I was right in saying in a book that I wrote, you covered it really nicely, I appreciate it, but I wrote a very political book years ago in the year 2000, The America We Deserve, and I said in that book that we better be careful with this guy named Osama Bin Laden. 0.98

00:38:23.000 I mean, I really study this stuff, I really find it very interesting, and even though I'm a businessman, I find it, I've always found, I've always been involved in politics.

00:38:32.000 I said, we better be careful with Osama Bin Laden. 0.98

00:38:34.000 There's a guy named Osama Bin Laden, nobody really knew who he was, but He was nasty. 0.99

00:38:38.000 He was saying really nasty things about our country and what he wants to do to it.

00:38:43.000 And I wrote in a book, 2000, two years before the World Trade Center came down, I talked about Osama bin Laden.

00:38:47.000 You better take him out.

00:38:48.000 I said, he's going to crawl under a rock.

00:38:50.000 You better take him out.

00:38:52.000 And now people are seeing that.

00:38:53.000 They're saying, you know, Trump predicted Osama bin Laden, which actually is true. 1.00

00:38:58.000 And then two years later, a year and a half later, he knocked down the World Trade Center.

00:39:01.000 And I talked about terrorism and that was before terrorism as we know it today.

00:39:05.000 I said, we better be careful.

00:39:07.000 That's going to happen.

00:39:07.000 It's going to be a big thing.

00:39:08.000 And it certainly is a big thing.

00:39:09.000 So with the oil, and I'm glad you brought it up, but as you know, for three years, I've been saying you better take out the oil because if you don't take the oil, it's going to be a problem.

00:39:18.000 So we shouldn't have been in Iraq. 0.89

00:39:19.000 But once we got there, the way we came out was horrible.

00:39:24.000 And I said, take the oil.

00:39:26.000 Then, we didn't take the oil, so ISIS got the oil, and as you know, Iran is getting the oil, because Iran is going to take over all of Iraq. 0.72

00:39:33.000 You know, we made one of the worst deals in the history of our world when we gave them $150 billion, and virtually we gave them keys to nuclear weapons.

00:39:42.000 Mr. Trump, I hate to interrupt you.

00:39:43.000 You are the leading presidential frontrunner, with the Republicans gaining a huge lead as you don't back down, but I've got to just back you up again, because the more I research what you've actually said and done, it's amazing.

00:39:54.000 You were the only leading American figure who openly said do not go to war in Iraq.

00:40:00.000 They had almost, what, 90% votes in Congress for it, bipartisan.

00:40:04.000 You said don't do it, Iran will take over. 1.00

00:40:07.000 I mean, look, you can say that today and everybody can say that, but you said that in 2001, 2002, 2003 when it was very unpopular because you've done your research and had good advisors.

00:40:18.000 How did you know that when almost no one else did?

00:40:21.000 Well, first of all, I'm the most militaristic person there is.

00:40:24.000 I'm going to build the military.

00:40:25.000 If I win, I'm going to make our military so strong, so powerful that nobody's going to mess with us.

00:40:29.000 We're going to take care of our vets and all of that.

00:40:32.000 But I have to tell you, you have to know if you're going to go to war, you have to do it properly and you have to know what to do.

00:40:36.000 I viewed it as this.

00:40:38.000 Iran and Iraq were the same in terms of strength, and they'd had constantly fighting.

00:40:43.000 That's all they do is they fight.

00:40:44.000 They go to war all the time, and they'd move ten feet left, ten feet right, ten feet left, then they'd rest, and then they'd start it again four years later.

00:40:44.000 Right?

00:40:51.000 This has been gone on for...

00:40:54.000 Forever.

00:40:55.000 And this is the way it is.

00:40:56.000 I said, if you take out Iran, or if you take out Iraq, either one, you're going to destabilize the Middle East. 0.97

00:41:01.000 Well, we took out Iraq. 1.00

00:41:03.000 And by the way, Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world.

00:41:07.000 People don't even know that.

00:41:09.000 So we gave, like, incredible.

00:41:11.000 I said, you're going to destabilize.

00:41:11.000 We took out Iraq.

00:41:12.000 Well, and I said, and you'll know this, and you know this, and I appreciate what you just said, then Iran is going to come in and Iran is going to take over Iraq. 0.91

00:41:22.000 And they're just taking it over right now.

00:41:24.000 As we speak, they're taking it over.

00:41:25.000 Iran is running a rack, and very soon will be virtually, gonna be totally running a rack. 0.57

00:41:30.000 Especially after all of, you know, the deal we just made, which is the worst.

00:41:33.000 So, I said, keep the oil.

00:41:36.000 And I said, if you're gonna leave, you shouldn't have gone in, but they shouldn't have, they should have left soldiers behind, like 20,000 or a certain number of soldiers.

00:41:43.000 But if you're gonna leave, take the oil.

00:41:45.000 And I've said it.

00:41:46.000 Then they left.

00:41:47.000 They didn't take the oil.

00:41:48.000 So ISIS got the oil.

00:41:49.000 Iran is getting the oil.

00:41:50.000 Everybody's getting everything but us.

00:41:52.000 So we lost thousands of soldiers.

00:41:54.000 We spent two trillion dollars in Iraq.

00:41:56.000 We have wounded warriors who I love all over the place.

00:41:58.000 And what do we get out of it?

00:42:00.000 We had nothing.

00:42:01.000 No, the French and the Germans are getting the oil.

00:42:01.000 We had nothing.

00:42:03.000 The Iranians are getting the oil. 0.52

00:42:05.000 And you know who the number one customer for the oil is?

00:42:07.000 Guess what?

00:42:08.000 That's right.

00:42:08.000 China.

00:42:09.000 How smart is China? 0.88

00:42:10.000 They outsmart us on every level, militarily, they outsmart us on trade, like, we're losing, we have a $450 billion trade deficit with China.

00:42:19.000 You're a top business guy on your own from nothing.

00:42:19.000 Let me ask you this.

00:42:22.000 How did China get 97% of rare earth minerals in the world?

00:42:28.000 How is the United States or nobody else even trying to get rare earth minerals when it's what goes in the smartphones, the computers, trillions is made a year?

00:42:35.000 How did we just give them the global market in that?

00:42:38.000 That's crazy.

00:42:38.000 Well, what a lot of people don't know, Afghanistan.

00:42:41.000 Now, Afghanistan is a place we can go in because, you know, you have Pakistan and you have nuclear weapons and a lot of things going on there. 0.99

00:42:47.000 But we go into Afghanistan.

00:42:49.000 We're fighting, you know, tremendous mountains and ridges.

00:42:52.000 We're fighting on one side, and you know who's got their excavators on the other side?

00:42:56.000 China.

00:42:57.000 China, working out all the minerals.

00:42:58.000 You know, Afghanistan, nobody knew this, Afghanistan is rich with minerals.

00:43:02.000 Not oil, but minerals.

00:43:03.000 Lithium, everything.

00:43:05.000 And China has taken out all the minerals.

00:43:07.000 And here we are fighting, we have trillions, we have like a trillion dollars in Afghanistan, and we get nothing out of it.

00:43:13.000 And we're going to end up leaving and keeping a couple of thousand soldiers there and this and that.

00:43:17.000 We get nothing.

00:43:18.000 China has taken out the minerals.

00:43:20.000 They're the buyers, the big buyers at very, very low prices of, as you know, of the oil in Iraq and probably in Syria.

00:43:28.000 But China is a big buyer of the oil.

00:43:30.000 But one thing with the oil, because you've covered it, For three years I've been saying, hit the oil, because ISIS is getting stronger.

00:43:36.000 They know JV, as the President said, and they're certainly not contained.

00:43:40.000 But I said, hit the oil, and hit them hard.

00:43:43.000 And they laughed at me.

00:43:44.000 And they would put generals on television saying, no, that strategy wouldn't work.

00:43:48.000 Well, after Paris, they started hitting the oil.

00:43:50.000 And it does work.

00:43:51.000 The problem is, we've given them a two-year edge.

00:43:54.000 They have billions of dollars.

00:43:55.000 The Russians started hitting the oil for one month, and ISIS is already rolling over.

00:43:59.000 So Putin is following your strategy.

00:44:01.000 You know Vladimir Putin well.

00:44:03.000 One or two years ago, Alex, that's the only problem.

00:44:05.000 Donald Trump joins us live.

00:44:06.000 Can you speak to, as president, what your relationship would be with foreign leaders and what you know about Vladimir Putin?

00:44:13.000 Because all I know is, why are we starting a fight with Russia when they're not doing anything to us? 0.96

00:44:18.000 Right.

00:44:18.000 Well, number one, and just to finish on the oil, by the way, I say hit the oil, but we should keep the oil.

00:44:22.000 In other words, we should keep, we'll get Exxon Mobil, they'll go in, we'll get other of our oil companies, we'll get some of the great oil companies we bidded at.

00:44:29.000 We should keep the oil.

00:44:30.000 You know, in the old days, to the victor belong the spoils, right?

00:44:32.000 We don't have that.

00:44:33.000 We go in, we fight a war, and we leave.

00:44:35.000 We get nothing.

00:44:36.000 Except we get death, and we get deficit.

00:44:38.000 That's all we get.

00:44:39.000 I think I get along great with people.

00:44:41.000 I mean, I will probably get along well with him, and if I don't, somebody else will, and who knows?

00:44:45.000 You know, he's a difficult cookie.

00:44:47.000 He's tough and he's smart.

00:44:48.000 I was on the show 60 Minutes with him recently.

00:44:52.000 Not together.

00:44:53.000 I mean, they did him and they profiled me at the same show, which was there.

00:44:56.000 We were stablemates, right?

00:44:57.000 But I think I'd get along very well with him.

00:44:59.000 I think it'd do fine.

00:45:00.000 Look, here's the thing.

00:45:02.000 We lose with every country, and yet we don't get along with any countries.

00:45:05.000 China is killing us.

00:45:06.000 Everybody's killing us. 0.98

00:45:07.000 China's just beating us to a pulp and trade. 0.99

00:45:09.000 Japan, Mexico is killing us.

00:45:12.000 And yet we don't get along with anybody.

00:45:14.000 With me, they're not going to get so rich.

00:45:15.000 Believe me, they're not going to get so rich at all.

00:45:18.000 We're going to take back our jobs.

00:45:19.000 We're going to take back our manufacturing.

00:45:20.000 We take back our base.

00:45:22.000 Yeah.

00:45:22.000 They'll like us more than they do now.

00:45:25.000 Sort of amazing.

00:45:26.000 Well, Donald Trump, let me say this.

00:45:27.000 My audience, I'd say 90% support you, okay?

00:45:31.000 And you definitely have shown your knowledge of geopolitical systems.

00:45:36.000 Hillary and others have been demonizing you for saying radical Muslims celebrated on 9-11, but she got caught a few years ago Claiming that she got shot at in Bosnia, in the air, on the ground.

00:45:47.000 They have video of it all.

00:45:49.000 None of it happened.

00:45:49.000 She admits she lied.

00:45:51.000 If you did that, you'd be done.

00:45:52.000 But you wouldn't do something like that.

00:45:54.000 You don't steal glory from our veterans.

00:45:56.000 But they demonize you for made-up scandals every day, trying to see what'll stick.

00:46:00.000 And you got Hillary involved in Benghazi.

00:46:03.000 You've got them involved in everything.

00:46:04.000 And people love you for tough talk.

00:46:06.000 Is it not time for impeachment hearings against Obama?

00:46:09.000 I mean, what do we do politically to really try to prosecute Hillary Clinton?

00:46:14.000 Well, you remember this.

00:46:15.000 The best thing that we have going with Obama is he's got a year left, okay?

00:46:19.000 Because, you know, by the time you do the hearings and everything, I don't... So don't make him a martyr.

00:46:24.000 In a way, you'll make him a martyr, but I don't even say that.

00:46:26.000 You know, one of the things that I'm the most disappointed in Republicans, because they go to Washington, they're going to do all this stuff, they're going to impeach Obama, they're going to end Obamacare, which has to be ended.

00:46:36.000 I don't know if you've seen the premiums they're going up.

00:46:38.000 It's killing everything.

00:46:39.000 55%, you know, it's going to implode anyway.

00:46:43.000 In 2017, Obamacare blows up.

00:46:47.000 It's over.

00:46:47.000 I mean, it's over.

00:46:48.000 And everybody knows it.

00:46:49.000 And they're doing big stories.

00:46:51.000 Even the ones that were for it are saying, oh, this isn't working.

00:46:54.000 Well, the premiums are a disaster.

00:46:55.000 And if you look at anything having to do with Obamacare right now, it's over.

00:47:00.000 But the problem with the Republicans is they'll try and fix it.

00:47:03.000 They'll try.

00:47:05.000 Get rid of it, and we can come up with a phenomenal plan that's much better for the people.

00:47:09.000 The people are getting killed with that.

00:47:11.000 So, there's so many things to do, Alex.

00:47:13.000 We will do such a good job.

00:47:15.000 There's so many fronts.

00:47:16.000 A number will win on trade.

00:47:19.000 We're going to strengthen our military.

00:47:20.000 We're going to take care of our vets.

00:47:21.000 We're going to get rid of Obamacare. 0.85

00:47:23.000 We're going to do so many things.

00:47:24.000 There's so many things that can be done.

00:47:26.000 But we have to use our good people.

00:47:28.000 You know, everybody running against me, in terms of even the Republican side, and Hillary certainly, they're all controlled by their donors and their special interests and the lobbyists.

00:47:37.000 I'm putting up my own money.

00:47:38.000 I'm funding my own campaign.

00:47:39.000 Nobody's going to control me.

00:47:40.000 I'm going to do what's right for you and for the American people.

00:47:44.000 Listen, I get it.

00:47:45.000 I mean, you are a true maverick.

00:47:47.000 I understand.

00:47:48.000 You know, you've made tens of millions of dollars.

00:47:50.000 You've hired tens of thousands of people.

00:47:52.000 I mean, I would imagine that as you've gotten older, correct me if I'm wrong, because I know you talked about wanting to serve America decades ago, really all it comes down to is wanting to have a free country for your children and grandchildren.

00:48:02.000 And that's where I want to come to this point next.

00:48:04.000 Because I know you're smart, sir, and I know that you also, though, you don't dumb your message down, but you keep it at a mid-level so the general public and the establishment as well can get it.

00:48:13.000 But let's get down to brass tacks.

00:48:15.000 I routinely talk to the top generals, special forces, Pentagon currently, out of the Pentagon, CIA, as I know you do, and we'll just leave it at that.

00:48:27.000 There are a lot of people in this government and also retired who don't want to destroy the country.

00:48:31.000 They really know that we've reached the crossroads where the country's done as a third world nation within a few more years. 0.87

00:48:36.000 Forget Donald Trump in four years if this happens, we're done.

00:48:39.000 I mean, we're talking about resurrecting the dead here.

00:48:41.000 We could turn it around right now, as you've said properly, you're dead on, sir, you're right.

00:48:45.000 We could turn it around, all the actuaries, all the numbers show it.

00:48:48.000 But it's got to happen in the next few years or we're done.

00:48:50.000 And there are globalists that want to have a world government, a system run by select crony capitalists, using socialism at the grassroots to make people dependent.

00:48:58.000 And I've talked to not just high-level folks that have been in government that are on your team, but separately high-level people in government currently that say there's an internal war going on and that you're a manifestation of that.

00:49:10.000 I don't want to get anything inside baseball with you, but I already know the inside baseball.

00:49:14.000 I know now from top people that you actually are for real and you understand you're in danger and you understand what you're doing is epic.

00:49:22.000 It's George Washington level and you understand that office.

00:49:25.000 So I want to tell you right now, can you speak about the war for the soul of this country that's happening right now and really tell people what's happening and commit to people that you won't Ross Perot under death threats and step down when you're in the lead two months from the election?

00:49:40.000 Okay, so let me just tell you, Alex.

00:49:42.000 As you know, I'm leading in every poll, nationally, in every poll state.

00:49:46.000 I'm leading in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, the SEC, Texas.

00:49:50.000 I'm leading in Texas, which I love.

00:49:52.000 I love Texas.

00:49:53.000 You know, we were there.

00:49:54.000 Mark Cuban called up.

00:49:55.000 He said, do you want to use the arena?

00:49:56.000 We filled it up in three or four days, 20,000 people.

00:49:56.000 I used it.

00:49:59.000 In Mobile, Alabama, we had 35,000 people.

00:50:01.000 We had 20,000 in Oklahoma.

00:50:04.000 I'm so into this, and I'm not into, you know, I could do other things that I would enjoy doing, to be honest with you.

00:50:10.000 No, you're doing a dangerous mission.

00:50:11.000 We understand that.

00:50:12.000 It's not an easy thing, but the key is make America great again.

00:50:15.000 We can make America great again, but if you have to suffer through four more or eight more years of what's gone on in the past and, you know, what's going, just, we're being eaten away.

00:50:25.000 It's just, it's eating away at our country, and we can make In my opinion, we can make America greater than ever before.

00:50:33.000 But we have to get going.

00:50:34.000 It has to happen.

00:50:35.000 We have to get going.

00:50:36.000 And, you know, when you look at the vision, I said Iraq. 0.59

00:50:39.000 You agreed with me on Iraq.

00:50:41.000 I said hit the oil. 0.68

00:50:42.000 I said a lot of things that turned out to be True.

00:50:45.000 A hundred percent true.

00:50:46.000 And I'm giving credit, I'm giving credit by some people.

00:50:49.000 Some people refuse to acknowledge it.

00:50:50.000 You know, they refuse to say it.

00:50:51.000 No, you've been, you've been, you've been absolutely on target.

00:50:54.000 So what I'm asking is though, can you speak to the crossroads we're at right now though?

00:50:57.000 Because you've talked about it.

00:50:58.000 Are we at a crossroads to decide whether this country's done or whether we go to the next level?

00:51:02.000 Well, I think this, I think that, sadly, I think that if we don't get it right this time, I think this is going to be the most important election our country's ever had.

00:51:10.000 I mean, you'd have to say George Washington was right there, you know, the couple of pretty important elections, right?

00:51:14.000 But this is certainly in the last, in the modern era, this is the most important election our country's ever had. 0.86

00:51:20.000 If we don't get it right, if we put another one of these people in, like Hillary, I mean, she's so corrupt. 1.00

00:51:27.000 She is so corrupt and she shouldn't even be allowed to run. 1.00

00:51:31.000 And frankly, her greatest legacy, she was a horrible Secretary of State. 1.00

00:51:35.000 If she runs, I think her greatest legacy will be that she got out of the email scandal. 0.66

00:51:40.000 That's what I think.

00:51:41.000 It'll be one of the greatest jobs I've ever seen of getting out of a scandal.

00:51:46.000 Because General Petraeus and many others, I mean, their lives have been destroyed for doing 5% of what she did.

00:51:51.000 That's right.

00:51:52.000 She shouldn't be allowed to run.

00:51:53.000 But, you know, the recent Fox poll that just came down two days ago has me beating her head to head, which is very interesting and very good, and beating her soundly head to head.

00:52:02.000 We have to get it right. 0.99

00:52:04.000 Our country can be absolutely, we can turn it around, but I would agree with you, if we don't get it right this time, I'm not sure if you go another four or eight years with the insanity and the stupidity of these leaders, I'm not sure you're going to be able to turn it around anymore. 0.99

00:52:18.000 I think it could be worse. 0.93

00:52:20.000 Donald Trump, the man in the arena, his new book, we're going to talk about in a moment, is exposing the fact that this country is being sabotaged by design.

00:52:28.000 Specifically, I don't want to bring up detractors.

00:52:30.000 And it's a question I had early on, but then I did more research, and I understand that you really do want to save this country where your children and grandchildren live, but let's expand on this.

00:52:40.000 There are certain pundits out there saying you played golf with Bill Clinton, And so, you know, you had to do business in New York, so you said nice things about Hillary.

00:52:50.000 I get keeping your enemies closer when you're not, you know, in politics.

00:52:53.000 I get it.

00:52:54.000 I understand.

00:52:54.000 I think that's what you did.

00:52:55.000 But tell us specifically, and I don't think this now.

00:52:58.000 I've seen it.

00:52:59.000 I know you're for real.

00:53:00.000 You wouldn't be saying the things you're doing.

00:53:01.000 They're scared of you.

00:53:02.000 The whole system's coming on against you.

00:53:03.000 But promise us that you're not going to...

00:53:07.000 Drop out at the key moment, keeping all the other Republicans out of view, and then Hillary races to the head, or Jeb Bush does, because as you know, folks are claiming you're a Clinton operative.

00:53:18.000 You know, I've never heard that.

00:53:20.000 I heard it actually a few months ago, but I've hit her harder than anybody times ten, if you look at the... You have, you have.

00:53:26.000 I was a businessman, yet I've only been a politician for five months.

00:53:28.000 I hate to use the term because, you know, it's all... You're a statesman.

00:53:32.000 I've just been doing this for a very short period of time.

00:53:34.000 I was establishment.

00:53:36.000 You know, I was like a guy like you would say Trump is total establishment.

00:53:39.000 And I was a big donor to a lot of different Republicans.

00:53:43.000 But over the years, I've given to Democrats, I've given to Republicans, I've given everybody because I had an obligation.

00:53:48.000 I was a businessman.

00:53:49.000 One of the magazines recently called me a world-class businessman.

00:53:51.000 The truth is, I did.

00:53:52.000 I built an unbelievable company.

00:53:55.000 Tremendous assets.

00:53:56.000 Tremendous, not only that, iconic assets.

00:53:58.000 Very little debt.

00:53:59.000 Tremendous cash flow.

00:54:00.000 It's a great company.

00:54:01.000 And by the way, people now see how good when I did the filing.

00:54:04.000 Everyone said, oh, he'll never file.

00:54:05.000 I never filed.

00:54:06.000 It's almost a hundred pages long.

00:54:08.000 And it's an unbelievable company.

00:54:10.000 So I built it, which, by the way, the reason I say that, that's the kind of thinking our country needs.

00:54:14.000 But I got along great with Clinton.

00:54:16.000 I got along great with Harry Reid.

00:54:18.000 I get along great with everybody.

00:54:20.000 Because when I needed them, I didn't want to have an argument.

00:54:23.000 I didn't want to have somebody say, well, Clinton doesn't want it to happen. 0.59

00:54:26.000 Sure, you're not a loser.

00:54:26.000 You don't get in mindless fights.

00:54:28.000 You move forward with your agenda.

00:54:29.000 But now you see America in trouble, and you're, hey, that's all sidelined now.

00:54:34.000 Donald Trump's not working for Donald Trump.

00:54:35.000 He wants to work for America. 0.68

00:54:37.000 Yeah, as a businessman, you couldn't have even functioned if you don't get along.

00:54:40.000 No, I know, yeah.

00:54:40.000 For example, in New York City, it's 95% Democrat.

00:54:44.000 I mean, if I didn't get along with the Democrats, I wouldn't have won voting.

00:54:46.000 Well, I'll tell you, I mean, you did want the vice president, you know, a position that's come out decades ago behind the scenes.

00:54:52.000 I mean, I know you're a Republican.

00:54:53.000 What about libertarianism?

00:54:55.000 What's your view of libertarianism?

00:54:56.000 And then I want to ask you, who's your favorite president and who do you think your running mate might be?

00:55:01.000 Folks think it's Ted Cruz.

00:55:02.000 Well, I think that libertarianism is sort of interesting.

00:55:05.000 There are certain things that I really like about it.

00:55:07.000 But, you know, keeping government out as much as possible.

00:55:10.000 We need government for protection.

00:55:11.000 We have to protect. 0.72

00:55:12.000 When you look at these maniacs in the Middle East that want to destroy us. 1.00

00:55:16.000 And, you know, the problem we have today, Alex, is the weaponry.

00:55:19.000 If this were a hundred years ago, I'd say forget about them.

00:55:21.000 Let them keep fighting.

00:55:22.000 They've been fighting all their lives.

00:55:23.000 Let them keep fighting each other.

00:55:24.000 Who cares?

00:55:25.000 But the weaponry is so powerful and they hate us so much that we have to now protect.

00:55:31.000 So that's a big part of government.

00:55:33.000 So there's a certain common sense to certain elements.

00:55:35.000 And I do very well with the libertarians, frankly, you know, because they sort of get it and they they get me.

00:55:40.000 But we need.

00:55:42.000 Bigger strength that I think the Libertarians really want.

00:55:45.000 And we need it.

00:55:46.000 And we have to have it.

00:55:47.000 We have to have it.

00:55:48.000 If we don't have it, we're not going to have a country.

00:55:49.000 If we don't have borders, we're not going to have a country.

00:55:52.000 As far as running mates, it's too soon to say.

00:55:54.000 I actually respect a couple of people that are on the stage.

00:55:57.000 Some of them I have absolutely no respect for.

00:55:59.000 I mean, I think they're not very good at all at what they do.

00:56:01.000 You look at what's going on.

00:56:03.000 But I have respect for a number of people that are on the stage with me.

00:56:06.000 I have respect for a lot of people that are throughout this country, you know, political people.

00:56:12.000 I'll pick somebody I think that can really be a great vice president, ultimately has to be a great president, because that's, you know, 90% of that function is, you know, if something bad happens, they got to be a good president.

00:56:23.000 You have to view it from that standpoint.

00:56:24.000 And my favorite president in the more or less modern era would be Ronald Reagan.

00:56:28.000 I've always I liked him, I helped him.

00:56:30.000 And by the way, he was a Democrat.

00:56:31.000 A lot of people don't know.

00:56:32.000 He was.

00:56:33.000 A liberal Democrat, Alex, as you know.

00:56:36.000 And he became a somewhat conservative, I wouldn't say the most conservative, but a somewhat conservative Republican.

00:56:41.000 But he wanted to make America great.

00:56:43.000 And he really did.

00:56:44.000 He wanted to make, he had actually, let's make America great.

00:56:47.000 That was his, and mine is, make America great again.

00:56:50.000 So there's a little bit of a difference.

00:56:51.000 My son, my son, you know, finally sold me on being a bigger supporter of yours.

00:56:55.000 I mean, I liked you.

00:56:56.000 Love Americana.

00:56:57.000 You're pure Americana.

00:56:58.000 But I'm still, you know, it was research.

00:56:59.000 But my 13-year-old son's really smart.

00:57:00.000 He does a lot of research.

00:57:02.000 He watches all the debates.

00:57:03.000 He just really loves you.

00:57:04.000 He is on cloud nine that you're here, Rex Jones.

00:57:06.000 And it was his question, you know, which president was your favorite.

00:57:11.000 But all time, all time, who's your favorite?

00:57:14.000 Well, all time.

00:57:14.000 I'd say Ronald Reagan, uh, shorter term, I would say... Well, you know, you look at Lincoln, you look at Washington, you have to go with... They're the classics, right, Alex?

00:57:23.000 You know, you think in terms of the great classics, you have to go with the Lincolns and the Washingtons.

00:57:27.000 I agree.

00:57:28.000 As a man's man, George Washington was badass.

00:57:31.000 Yeah, that's what they say.

00:57:32.000 I mean, that's what they say.

00:57:34.000 They say he never told a lie.

00:57:35.000 Let's hope that's true, okay?

00:57:36.000 But George Washington was pretty good.

00:57:38.000 But look, we had some great presidents, and we had some good presidents on the other side, too, in all fairness.

00:57:43.000 But we will hopefully be right at the top of that list.

00:57:47.000 We're going to make the country so strong, and we're going to make it financially secure.

00:57:51.000 We can't owe $21 trillion, because it's going to be that number.

00:57:54.000 Well, we have to make our country rich again.

00:57:56.000 wants a cloward and pivot, bankrupt the country so socialists can run in and we all get handouts.

00:58:01.000 What type of an elite is that?

00:58:02.000 I mean, you've been around these people. 0.99

00:58:03.000 Are they mentally ill, Donald Trump? 0.98

00:58:05.000 Well, we have to make our country rich again. 0.98

00:58:07.000 You know, the other day I said to a woman, she came up to Mr. Trump at a big rally where we had 14,000 people.

00:58:14.000 And at the end, she just sees me and I'm signing autographs and stuff.

00:58:18.000 And she said, Mr. Trump, I'm voting for you 100 percent.

00:58:20.000 But are you this whole concept of making it rich?

00:58:23.000 It sounds so crass.

00:58:24.000 I said, you know what?

00:58:25.000 It might sound crass, but if we don't make our nation rich again, if we don't take back our jobs from all these other countries that are ripping us, And if we don't take back our money, and if we don't, you know, balance up our budget, at least get it damn close and soon, we're not going to have a nation anymore.

00:58:40.000 We're a third world country.

00:58:41.000 Donald Trump.

00:58:41.000 You know, I know you've got to go.

00:58:42.000 60 second break.

00:58:43.000 I want to come back for just three minutes.

00:58:45.000 Talk about your book and your big rally in Virginia tonight.

00:58:47.000 We'll be back in 70 seconds.

00:58:49.000 Powerful interview.

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01:00:20.000 So move it on over. 0.83

01:00:22.000 Move it on over.

01:00:26.000 Move over, little dog, cause the big dog's moving in.

01:00:30.000 She's changed the lock on our front door, and my door key don't fit no more.

01:00:37.000 So get it on over.

01:00:39.000 Move it on over.

01:00:40.000 Scoot it on over.

01:00:42.000 Move it on over. 0.99

01:00:43.000 Move over, skinny dog, cause the fat dog's moving in. 1.00

01:00:47.000 That's right, Cy Hirsch coming up. 0.99

01:00:49.000 All over the country they're announcing the new coffin apartments.

01:00:53.000 They call them smart.

01:00:54.000 Like smart missiles.

01:00:55.000 All over the country, they're announcing the new coffin apartments.

01:00:59.000 They call them smart, like smart missiles.

01:01:03.000 They're meant to blow your savings up.

01:01:06.000 They admit they can build more of them, charge higher rent per square foot, and then get more property tax, where you can pay more in property tax than you do even for rent.

01:01:17.000 And you're like, what do you mean?

01:01:19.000 I don't pay property tax, I rent.

01:01:21.000 Oh, you pay for it through the owner.

01:01:27.000 Isn't that cute?

01:01:28.000 It's your new car.

01:01:30.000 And they have all these little metrosexual trendies I really love it.

01:01:36.000 Bloomberg promotes it.

01:01:38.000 That's why Bloomberg, you know, lives in 30, 40, 50 thousand square feet houses.

01:01:42.000 He's got a whole bunch of them.

01:01:43.000 Al Gore's got houses even better.

01:01:45.000 It's okay though.

01:01:47.000 They're promoting that you live in here.

01:01:48.000 Like Obama said, you can't have air conditioning or a car.

01:01:50.000 Not that we're going to innovate the cars and air conditioning like they've done and make them clean.

01:01:54.000 No, we're just, you just don't get one.

01:01:57.000 Now I got to go back on this Air Force One here and fly back to Hawaii.

01:02:01.000 I don't do a very good Obama.

01:02:01.000 Ha ha.

01:02:02.000 I can do a Bush. 0.91

01:02:07.000 Fool me once, shame on you.

01:02:08.000 Fool me twice, shame on... I have to... It's been so long since I actually watched George W. I can't do it as well.

01:02:12.000 I can do a Bill Clinton.

01:02:15.000 I'm here to tell you that I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky, and I did settle, was it five cases of alleged rape, out of court.

01:02:24.000 You don't think I'd do something like that, do you?

01:02:30.000 You know, I love the fact that Trump's going after him for all the sex stuff because He and Bill Cosby deserves it, which he well may.

01:02:38.000 I think some of it's true, some of it isn't.

01:02:40.000 But with Bill Clinton, we know.

01:02:42.000 I mean, I've interviewed the women that he, uh... Well, first he'd start choking them.

01:02:47.000 He'd even do it at, like, a party.

01:02:49.000 Where the governor's manager, he'd say, Step in here, I want to talk to you in my office, please, ma'am. 1.00

01:02:52.000 And then he would get them in a closet and just start choking them and then bite their upper lip while he talked through his mouth, going, I'm gonna rip your lip off if you just resist me. 0.93

01:03:02.000 Do you understand me? 0.86

01:03:03.000 And choke them. 1.00

01:03:05.000 An expert rapist! 1.00

01:03:09.000 But it's okay, because he's liberal. 0.99

01:03:11.000 We imagine that he's our buddy, so then everything's okay.

01:03:16.000 Cy Hirst joins us for 30 minutes, coming up.

01:03:19.000 Then Leanne McAdoo.

01:03:20.000 And boy, do I have a lot to go over with him.

01:03:22.000 I want to talk about Iraqi commander claims that U.S.

01:03:25.000 secretly evacuating ISIS leaders to safety.

01:03:29.000 I want to get into Congressman Paul, appalled by NSA spying on Congress.

01:03:35.000 And where all that is going, I mean, so much to talk about with Sy Hirsh, but the big thing is his new book, Military to Military.

01:03:43.000 And that deals with the fact that our military's been trying as best they can, under orders not to, to stop the radical jihadists.

01:03:52.000 And of course the State Department wants to keep up the show that they're actually not with them, so that allows that purview, even though it's a fake mission, the military's actually tried to carry out the mission.

01:04:02.000 So we're going to talk to the expert on this, and of course I've got all my sources as well.

01:04:07.000 What's amazing is so much of what he's put out in the excerpt of his new book, Military to Military, backs up everything that our guests have basically talked about here on air.

01:04:22.000 So Cy Hirsch, Coming up on the other side of this break.

01:04:27.000 Remember, Matt Drudge was here.

01:04:29.000 They are pushing to control the Internet.

01:04:31.000 They're now admitting that in the news.

01:04:32.000 That's coming up after Cy Hirsch leaves us.

01:04:35.000 There is a big push to restrict free speech.

01:04:38.000 A big push to take over more and more of the freedoms on the Internet.

01:04:44.000 Chinese-style systems.

01:04:45.000 So you gotta decide which side you're on right now.

01:04:48.000 Are you on the side Of basic human liberty and freedom and a safe society?

01:04:56.000 That's what's safe, is freedom.

01:04:57.000 Or you want tyranny, because if you go along with this, that's where it's headed.

01:05:02.000 And we already see a lot of tyranny, but it's only getting worse by the millisecond, obviously.

01:05:09.000 The Affluenza teen and his mother have been taken into custody, reports Reuters.

01:05:15.000 A wealthy Texas teen, who had been a fugitive after breaking his probation sentence for killing four people while driving drunk, will be returned to the United States after being caught in Mexico.

01:05:25.000 Ethan Couch, age 18, and his mother, Tanya, were taken into custody Monday evening in a resort in Mexico.

01:05:32.000 Couch became known in the United States as the Affluenzatine during his trial in juvenile court over the 2013 deaths, when a psychologist said he was so wealthy and spoiled that he could not tell the difference between right and wrong.

01:05:46.000 He has been serving 10 years probation for intoxication manslaughter, a sentence critics saw as far too light.

01:05:53.000 Couch and his mother disappeared earlier this month, prompting officials in Tarrant County, Texas to issue a warrant for his apprehension.

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01:08:08.000 For the sake of our viewers, in 2012, your agency was saying, quote, the Salafists, the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda in Iraq are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria.

01:08:23.000 In 2012, the US was helping coordinate arms transfers to those same groups.

01:08:28.000 Why did you not stop that, if you're worried about the rise of, quote unquote, Islamic extremists? 0.97

01:08:32.000 I mean, I hate to say it's not my job, but that...

01:08:34.000 My job was to ensure that the accuracy of our intelligence that was being presented was as good as it could be.

01:08:43.000 And I will tell you, it goes before 2012.

01:08:45.000 I mean, when we were in Iraq, and we still had decisions to be made before there was a decision to pull out of Iraq in 2011.

01:08:53.000 I mean, it was very clear what we were going to face.

01:08:58.000 Welcome, my friends, to the third hour and the fourth hour that we've added.

01:09:01.000 Leanne McAdoo, InfoWars Nightly News reporter, will be hosting the fourth hour of the radio slash TV broadcast that now reaches more than 20 million people a week worldwide.

01:09:12.000 Very, very exciting that folks are tuned out of the whole left-right false debate of divide and conquer and are just getting back to freedom versus tyranny and making a choice.

01:09:24.000 I could interview this individual for five hours.

01:09:26.000 I mean, we've only got him for like 25 minutes, and I'm so excited.

01:09:31.000 I mean, there are a lot of guests we've had that get me excited, but I'm about as excited about this as I've ever been about any guest.

01:09:37.000 So maybe Donald Trump coming on, or Ron Paul, or Matt Drudge.

01:09:40.000 I mean, it's right up there with that.

01:09:42.000 Seymour Hersh, I remember growing up.

01:09:46.000 Uh, you know, uh, at the end of the Vietnam War and hearing my mom, you know, talk about how great Cy Hirsch was and my dad and them reading his articles, uh, in major publications.

01:09:57.000 And then of course, since I've been out of high school 25 years or so, I'm 42, I've been following his work continually.

01:10:05.000 And I know most of the audience knows who he is, but I've talked to folks who don't know who Chuck Yeager is. 0.95

01:10:10.000 I mean, it's crazy how ignorant some of the public are. 0.93

01:10:14.000 Not our general audience, but... 0.92

01:10:17.000 The new people tuning in every millisecond on close to 200 affiliates across the United States.

01:10:23.000 He's won the Pulitzer Prize, the National Book Award.

01:10:27.000 He basically helped expose the biggest massacres in Vietnam and helped pretty much cause a chain reaction into that war.

01:10:34.000 You can't give him full credit for it, but I can say he gets the most credit of one man.

01:10:38.000 Or, you know, maybe the guy with the Pentagon Papers, who's been on as well.

01:10:44.000 Then, and I know he doesn't want to be talked about, but I'm going to do this for a minute and then we're going to him.

01:10:47.000 He exposed the Iraq War as the fraud like no other. 0.91

01:10:51.000 He exposed the NSA.

01:10:53.000 He has just exposed it all.

01:10:54.000 He exposed what he called one big lie, not one word of it true, the Osama Bin Laden raid.

01:11:00.000 And he has been demonized, attacked, you name it, but the truth stands on its own.

01:11:05.000 That's a badge of courage.

01:11:07.000 And so we've had former NSA technical director William Bennion, so many big people.

01:11:12.000 I don't know if you call Cy Hirsch a whistleblower, but he's beyond that.

01:11:15.000 He's probably, undoubtedly, the greatest living investigative journalist, and he joins us now on his maiden voyage.

01:11:22.000 Hopefully one of many.

01:11:23.000 I know we've talked in email a few times over the years, and my writers have, but he joins us now.

01:11:28.000 Mr. Hirsch, thank you for coming on.

01:11:30.000 Yeah, but you better tell people we're not related after that introduction.

01:11:33.000 You're not my brother-in-law, are you?

01:11:35.000 You know it's true.

01:11:36.000 Come on.

01:11:39.000 You know something?

01:11:40.000 It's the day before New Year's Eve.

01:11:42.000 It's quiet here in my office.

01:11:43.000 I'm sitting here like a mouse.

01:11:45.000 You know, I don't feel so important today.

01:11:48.000 Well, it's amazing, sir.

01:11:50.000 Obviously, we're here to talk about the incredible stuff happening in Syria, really showing the soul of America, both good, bad, and ugly. 0.92

01:11:57.000 But first off, in the continuum of your 40-plus years of reporting, sir, looking at all this, is America getting more corrupt or less?

01:12:07.000 Or do we just know more now?

01:12:08.000 Or are elites getting more brazen?

01:12:10.000 I mean, tying your latest reportage into the things you've seen, what is the state of the world through your rose-colored darkly?

01:12:18.000 Well, you know, it's interesting you ask that question.

01:12:19.000 I would say right now that the guys who control the press, the ability to manipulate the press, is much greater than ever.

01:12:28.000 And even the very good newspapers are staggering under the idea that it's just really hard to take everything at face value.

01:12:38.000 The current Press Secretary for the President of the United States may be a perfectly nice guy, but he never worked as a journalist.

01:12:44.000 He was always in the public relations business.

01:12:47.000 I'm not suggesting he's criminal or wrong, but we don't even have a journalist there.

01:12:52.000 So yes, I would say things are worse off generally, just in terms of day-to-day credibility.

01:12:58.000 It's just so much easier for the guys on top.

01:13:02.000 To get away with, if not a falsehood, just an incomplete answer or a non-answer when one should be issued.

01:13:09.000 I think it's much worse.

01:13:12.000 I just, you know, now if you go to the White House or to the Pentagon for comment, it's sort of pro forma.

01:13:19.000 You're just doing it.

01:13:20.000 And there's a line there, the Pentagon today denied or refused the comment.

01:13:25.000 You just don't get help on stories that are adverse to the government anymore.

01:13:30.000 Cy Hirsch is our guest.

01:13:32.000 I mean, I think one of the quintessential moments was a few years ago when Gibbs had left as White House Press Secretary and he went on MSNBC and said, yeah, you know, we knew the drone program was public and public for years, but we were told to go out there and say it didn't exist.

01:13:46.000 This is like the Wizard of Oz.

01:13:47.000 And then the pundits all laughed about it.

01:13:50.000 It's almost like it's funny now that they've put us into a false reality.

01:13:54.000 They just hide it in plain view.

01:13:57.000 Well, you remember the President, the current President, joked that if his daughters are getting to be of dating age, I mean look, there's nothing wrong with humor, but you have to sort of, it was at one of these annual meetings where the National Press Club gives the White House Correspondents Dinner, which I think is sort of a scandal.

01:14:17.000 The press all fight to see which guy can be at their table, which person from the government, and it's sort of like kumbaya.

01:14:23.000 But the President actually said that Guys better watch when they're dating his daughters.

01:14:29.000 A very attractive woman, young woman.

01:14:32.000 He said they better watch out because you can always schedule a Jones fight.

01:14:36.000 I thought that was, wow.

01:14:38.000 Are you kidding me?

01:14:39.000 You know, that's over the line, it seems to me.

01:14:42.000 It's not professional.

01:14:43.000 I mean, it's like Hillary saying we came, we saw, he died in Libya and laughing and then having her Brian Williams moment claiming she was attacked in Bosnia on the tarmac.

01:14:53.000 None of it's true.

01:14:55.000 You got me on the... I'll tell you, you're singing my song about Libya. 0.99

01:14:59.000 I just can't believe we didn't learn from that.

01:15:01.000 And you know, it turns out...

01:15:03.000 Because of what you guys do, the internet.

01:15:05.000 The internet is so lively.

01:15:07.000 It doesn't really matter where you publish anymore.

01:15:09.000 Thirty years ago, if you weren't at the New York Times, you felt like you were sort of, you know, or the Washington Post.

01:15:14.000 But now, you know, it's just out there.

01:15:16.000 Things get out there automatically.

01:15:17.000 So that's good.

01:15:19.000 We have more, better communication.

01:15:21.000 It's just too bad we don't have better information.

01:15:22.000 Sure, so that's bringing some balance back.

01:15:24.000 But there is a glut, and I'm aware of your big...

01:15:26.000 book on Cheney that's coming out.

01:15:28.000 Can't wait to see what your eye comes up with him to really find out what this guy who works on the dark side is really all about.

01:15:35.000 But let's specifically get into Syria because I've had generals on, colonels on, lieutenant colonels on.

01:15:42.000 C.I.A.

01:15:43.000 whistleblowers like Tosh Plumlee on, but you've got obviously a lot better contacts than I. You've been, I know, given security clearances before, unless I'm wrong.

01:15:51.000 Looking at all this, walking us through it, sir, and your incredible article, Military to Military, explain to us, as best you can tell, what has really happened in Syria.

01:16:03.000 Well, the big issue is, one of the big questions is, we've demonized Bashar Assad.

01:16:09.000 He's a dictator, no question.

01:16:11.000 You cross him, he'll cross you. 0.98

01:16:13.000 He's a lot better than his father, the old man Assad, you know, Hafez Assad.

01:16:19.000 He was trained to be, he was the second or third son, never thought he'd be president because the older boys had the past.

01:16:25.000 went to medical school, was an ophthalmologist, married a very second-generation Iraqi woman who worked for one of the national investment houses, American investment houses in London.

01:16:38.000 And so he was, all of a sudden there he's called upon.

01:16:40.000 His older brother dies and his father says, "You better get a couple years of Army training and get ready." So he's, look, he's hated in America.

01:16:50.000 I don't think you can get five votes for him in Congress.

01:16:53.000 He's killed.

01:16:53.000 He's demonized.

01:16:55.000 There's about 250,000 deaths.

01:16:56.000 But he's a lot better than Al Qaeda. 0.95

01:16:58.000 Well, you know something, and ISIS, and also, things have, I watched him for 6, 8, 10 years. 0.52

01:17:04.000 I went back and forth there.

01:17:05.000 I've been going there to the Middle East a lot since 9-11.

01:17:08.000 And he's, you know, he got much more open.

01:17:10.000 You could, you know, you could bank there.

01:17:12.000 You could have the, you can go to an ATM machine.

01:17:17.000 There were 30 different foreign broadcasts on TV.

01:17:20.000 It was, he was opening.

01:17:22.000 Yes, when you cross him, he's going to fight you to the end.

01:17:24.000 It's a war to the end.

01:17:25.000 He's fighting ISIS, he's fighting Al-Qaeda, he's fighting Al-Nusra.

01:17:30.000 These are people that hang in garages.

01:17:32.000 Some of the horrible stuff that happens.

01:17:33.000 He's had as many as 200 of his soldiers executed at one sitting by these people.

01:17:38.000 So, it's a war in which he's killed a lot and they've killed a lot.

01:17:41.000 And it's a war to the end.

01:17:45.000 What I wrote about, in part, was that our Joint Chief, decided some years ago on the basis of intelligence reporting that there really wasn't any option, that there really were no moderates.

01:17:56.000 Although the White House keeps on talking about there are moderate groups in the opposition, there were at one time, but they were quickly taken over and cleaned out by the more radical jihadists, people who believe in Sharia law.

01:18:09.000 Some of the groups we advocate as moderate have already made it clear that if they ever took over the government, no Christians, there are Alawites, that's a minority sect. 0.98

01:18:20.000 She has said that Bashar Assad and about 12% of the people living in Syria belong to, none of them could be allowed to live in the country.

01:18:30.000 They were talking about genocidal, you know, genocidal cleaning, cleansing, if you will, of a society.

01:18:38.000 Those are the moderate groups.

01:18:39.000 So there you are.

01:18:41.000 So the option was The Joint Chiefs looking at the intelligence, looking at the fact that we had been supporting for years covertly.

01:18:48.000 This is through the CIA, David Petraeus.

01:18:51.000 I would argue that Hillary Clinton surely should have been aware of this. 1.00

01:18:54.000 She was Secretary of State.

01:18:56.000 We began to, after Libya fell, we began to funnel stuff that in an earlier article I called the rat line. 0.97

01:19:04.000 A lot of arms from Libya into Turkey, and from Turkey, the gentleman running Turkey, Ed Milen, is a total complete supporter of ISIS.

01:19:12.000 I don't think there's any question of that, even though we deny that, our intelligence soldier.

01:19:16.000 So what I wrote about is the fact that two and a half years ago, the Joint Chiefs decided, well, they can't convince the White House and the State Department of intelligence They're just going to begin to do what they can do to try and modify the American policy or make it less, you know.

01:19:35.000 Nobody wants to talk about directly challenging a president.

01:19:38.000 That's not your job.

01:19:39.000 But I will tell you at a certain level.

01:19:42.000 At the Joint Chiefs, the level four-star generals.

01:19:44.000 The oath of office is an oath to the Constitution, not to the President.

01:19:48.000 That's right.

01:19:49.000 And it's very traditional.

01:19:50.000 You can go back to Douglas McCarthy.

01:19:52.000 You can go back to World War II fighting.

01:19:53.000 You can go back to terrible fighting in Vietnam.

01:19:56.000 President Eisenhower, as the President, challenged the military-industrial complex as a system himself, the ultimate level, still a general, saying, I want to challenge the people that want to control our military for their own aims.

01:20:09.000 There you go.

01:20:10.000 There you go.

01:20:11.000 And you can even argue that the hatred for McNamara by the time he was ready to get out of there in 67 because he refused to listen to the generals.

01:20:19.000 We've always had generals in opposition.

01:20:21.000 So this isn't new.

01:20:22.000 What they did, though, instead of directly challenging the Joint Chiefs, as I wrote about, beginning in the summer of 2013 after a lot of intelligence showed that our path was wrong.

01:20:34.000 We weren't going to win.

01:20:36.000 If we got rid of Bashar, we were going to have A government completely full of wackos. 1.00

01:20:41.000 You know, wing nuts. 0.98

01:20:42.000 A hard line that take off their head people. 0.99

01:20:45.000 Clearly worse.

01:20:46.000 I mean a whole new Afghanistan. 1.00

01:20:48.000 Well, there you go.

01:20:49.000 Well look, Afghanistan is still a mess right now. 1.00

01:20:52.000 You know, people always talk.

01:20:54.000 I'm a big supporter.

01:20:55.000 I was in the Army.

01:20:58.000 There's nothing better than America.

01:20:59.000 It's the greatest country to be in.

01:21:01.000 But we do have a lot of freedom.

01:21:03.000 And I will tell you that our special operation forces, the Delta Force, the SEALs, they're terrific.

01:21:09.000 They're very good at what they do, but they're being miscast.

01:21:12.000 We're now in 14 and a half years of war against an idea, and the Joint Special Operations Command, for all of their ability to go hit a house at night and kill people and take them out, we're not winning that war.

01:21:25.000 We've got to figure out some way to do it differently.

01:21:27.000 Yes, sir.

01:21:28.000 Well, Cy Hirst joins us.

01:21:29.000 I want to go back to the bombshell you just dropped that's in your article, Military to Military, London Review of Books, and expand on this with you.

01:21:36.000 Because what you write here, and the generals you talk to, and you've got the former head of Defense Intelligence, Flynn, and others going public on Al Jazeera saying, look, we were ordered to aid Al Qaeda, ISIS, all this.

01:21:47.000 This is bombshell, and it verifies stuff you were writing about years ago that you were demonized over.

01:21:54.000 This is unprecedented in my lifetime to see generals on TV saying we don't want to back Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, ISIS.

01:22:03.000 We don't know why we're being ordered to do this.

01:22:05.000 We don't know what the mission is. 0.98

01:22:06.000 I mean, if your mission is to kill Christians, then it works. 1.00

01:22:09.000 If it's not, You know, what's the point? 0.95

01:22:11.000 So you've got the high-level sources.

01:22:13.000 I just don't think the public realizes how seismic this is and what it symbolizes under the surface.

01:22:20.000 So can you speak to more of that plea, sir, and go over to you what this means in your 40-plus years of being inside this?

01:22:28.000 Well, we're just fighting this order wrong.

01:22:31.000 We're fighting it wrong.

01:22:32.000 We are supplying a great deal of material to people that we claim to be moderate, and there's no question, the first thing that happens when a small group that maybe isn't as far out as ISIS or al-Nusra, but the first thing they do is they have no choice either to sell it to them or get it taken away.

01:22:50.000 So whatever we're sending there, They get bullied by the most extreme, yes sir, but when I'm getting back with you, sir, and I know you hold your cards close to your vest, you just got into the Pentagon, the Army mainly, from my sources, you're confirming it, saying, we're not going to back Al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS, we're just going to give intel to the Russians, and intel to Assad, and stop that.

01:23:10.000 That is just a huge American moment that makes me so proud of the armed services.

01:23:15.000 That is great!

01:23:16.000 Well, you know, it's interesting.

01:23:18.000 What they did was, because they didn't want to go directly to Bashar Assad, because the president had ruled that, you know, that would have been a direct violation.

01:23:26.000 But we did know that the Germans in particular, the German intelligence service and the German high command, and get this, the Russians and the Israelis, All three had been in contact with Bashar Assad.

01:23:39.000 Because all three, even Israel, which sometimes, you know, doesn't always speak what the real policy is.

01:23:44.000 They've got a lot of problems, government problems, leadership problems.

01:23:46.000 But the guys running the military and intelligence system in Israel had the same point of view as our, the guys running our, at least that were running our Joint Chiefs, because the general at the time was General Dempsey.

01:23:57.000 They're saying... Martin Dempsey, who's now retired.

01:24:00.000 He's the new chairman.

01:24:01.000 And we don't know where he stands on this because publicly he's said little.

01:24:05.000 He's only a couple months into it.

01:24:06.000 I understand a very competent Marine named Dunford.

01:24:09.000 I just don't know much about him.

01:24:10.000 I know more about Dempsey and... Was Dempsey the big hero in this going to Obama saying...

01:24:17.000 You know, he wouldn't look at it that way.

01:24:19.000 He just did something... The issue was, we were going the wrong way.

01:24:23.000 The Germans and the Russians and the Israelis were begging for intelligence.

01:24:29.000 One thing America does, and we do it very well, we have terrific intelligence.

01:24:33.000 We have satellites, we have SIGINT intelligence, we do have people on the ground.

01:24:37.000 Believe me, we can do better than anybody wants to write about with certain groups.

01:24:42.000 We can penetrate people.

01:24:43.000 We're not incompetent, but often it's the leadership that gets you in trouble.

01:24:48.000 So they decided that, the Germans in particular, were kept on saying, what can you do to help us?

01:24:52.000 They began in the fall of 2013, we began to shovel stuff that we had about Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda, ISIS.

01:25:03.000 We began to shovel information not only about where they were, but what they were thinking, as much as we learned.

01:25:09.000 And so we enabled Bashar's army, the Syrian army, which right now has probably emerged and has been fighting a tough war for four years.

01:25:18.000 It's emerged as one of the better armies in that area.

01:25:20.000 A hell of a lot better army is, for example, in the Iraqi army or in Afghanistan.

01:25:25.000 So what they did is they did it that way.

01:25:28.000 That way they were sort of, as somebody in the article I wrote, said, you know, we're doing stuff military to military.

01:25:36.000 The president may not have known, but there's a lot of stuff he doesn't know about.

01:25:40.000 So that's the way they got around the issue.

01:25:42.000 And they began to help it and help Bashar.

01:25:44.000 Not only that, it was very much a morale builder for the Syrian army to know that they were getting very high-level intelligence.

01:25:51.000 So, I don't know how history is going to judge this.

01:25:56.000 As you can gather, stories like this in the mainstream press don't get copied.

01:26:02.000 But it doesn't matter because there's the Internet.

01:26:05.000 You know, there's guys like you and all sorts of other people around the world that pay more attention than often.

01:26:12.000 The major papers here... You know, I worked for the New York Times for eight or nine years during Watergate.

01:26:18.000 I won a lot of prizes in Vietnam.

01:26:23.000 Certainly, the Nixon years, a lot.

01:26:26.000 And one of the things, you know, is there's not many reporters at a good newspaper who have the kind of, you know, there's nothing special.

01:26:34.000 I have friends that I know, most of the good guys at the major papers have somebody.

01:26:38.000 And when you're at that level, where you're, you know, you've got access and you're covering the Pentagon or the State Department or the White House, the last thing you want to do, I know this sounds almost It's silly.

01:26:49.000 The last thing you wanna do is chase somebody else's story.

01:26:53.000 You just don't wanna do it.

01:26:54.000 So when somebody asks me, bops along, and writes a story that says something, the only thing the editor can do is ask one of the good reporters to do it.

01:27:01.000 And what they want to do is figure out some way to get this out, you know, turf this, get this off their desk.

01:27:06.000 So it doesn't really get happened.

01:27:07.000 It doesn't happen with the papers.

01:27:09.000 And I understand it because I'm sure I did the same thing.

01:27:11.000 We're all, you know, we all love what we do and we're more interested in ourselves than anybody else.

01:27:16.000 That's one of the things about my business that's sort of wacky.

01:27:19.000 Well, here's the bottom line.

01:27:20.000 You've had the courage and the fortitude to go through a lot.

01:27:23.000 I know you don't talk about this, but I mean, I know the stuff I've gone through.

01:27:26.000 I mean, I can imagine, and I've seen some of the news, you've gone through a lot of harassment, persecution, to tell the truth.

01:27:32.000 And it's just to see the media today just being repeaters.

01:27:35.000 They take a corporate press release as pitchman and just put it back out.

01:27:39.000 It's very, very sad.

01:27:40.000 I just hope that you'll join us to talk about your Cheney book.

01:27:44.000 Yeah, but that's, you know, the problem I have with that is, you know, here's Cheney, who's a very tough dude.

01:27:44.000 Very, very sad.

01:27:49.000 Who decided one day after 9-11 that the rules don't apply.

01:27:52.000 Which is, you know, and the thing that always interests me so much about Cheney, and I'm not telegraphing that much, is how easy it was for him to do it.

01:28:03.000 He could change all the rules. 0.96

01:28:04.000 He's a sociopath. 0.96

01:28:05.000 How easy it is. 0.64

01:28:06.000 It's just, it turns out, our Constitution, you know, which we all dearly think is so wonderful, it's pretty flimsy.

01:28:13.000 It can be beaten to death very easy.

01:28:16.000 And that happened.

01:28:17.000 And so here we are.

01:28:18.000 We have a prison in Guantanamo that to the Arab world is a symbol of everything that's wrong with America. 1.00

01:28:25.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

01:28:26.000 It's a prison guys can go into and they disappear. 0.99

01:28:28.000 There's a lot of bad guys there, but there's an awful lot of good guys too.

01:28:32.000 Guys that have nothing to do with anything.

01:28:33.000 We were paying $525,000 for that.

01:28:35.000 We lose the moral high ground.

01:28:36.000 Sir, I've got to get you back up.

01:28:37.000 At the time I have left, I've got to ask you separately.

01:28:40.000 Dealing with all the things that are happening and the way terrorism is being used to take our freedoms, bringing all these refugees in. 1.00

01:28:46.000 We know a lot of them are foreign fighters.

01:28:48.000 They're going to attack.

01:28:49.000 Then they say, oh, we'll just put up naked body scanners on the highway. 1.00

01:28:52.000 I mean, isn't the war on terror a fraud?

01:28:54.000 Because all the funding in 15 years and we're still seeing terror attacks.

01:28:59.000 Shouldn't we just preserve the Bill of Rights and Constitution and not be intimidated by terror?

01:29:04.000 Well, you know, I don't necessarily agree with everything you're saying.

01:29:07.000 Let me make it clear, because I have a different view on immigration.

01:29:10.000 I think you can do things, rational things, to separate the good from the bad, although I admit there's always a risk with everything.

01:29:17.000 But certainly, I'll tell you, we've walked away from a lot of bases.

01:29:21.000 And you're right, one of the basic things we use, it makes it easy for the government And look, I know people that are very serious inside the government about the security risk and are scared.

01:29:31.000 But the bottom line is, it's being used to pass laws that violate the Bill of Rights.

01:29:38.000 I agree.

01:29:39.000 Let's not blame the migrants and the poor war-torn folks.

01:29:41.000 I know.

01:29:42.000 I'm just saying they're going to use this, the few bad guys that come in to take our freedoms.

01:29:48.000 When is the Cheney book coming out?

01:29:52.000 You know, hey, come on.

01:29:53.000 We never make deadlines.

01:29:53.000 I'm a journalist.

01:29:55.000 I don't want to make any predictions.

01:29:56.000 Well, Mr. Hirsch, we're out of time.

01:29:57.000 I mean, I know you got to go, but I just want to, let me say bye to you during the break, but I tell you, thank you so much for your courage and you deserve it.

01:30:03.000 You're an amazing person.

01:30:05.000 Thank you so much, sir.

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01:30:31.000 For years, Bill Cosby continued raking in millions while the media covered up his dirt in order to preserve his legacy.

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01:33:08.000 Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.

01:33:23.000 It's Alex Jones.

01:33:26.000 That's right.

01:33:27.000 You know, I respect Michael Savage, and when I would listen to him 10, 12 years ago, I agree with about 95%.

01:33:35.000 But when he would say there's a socialist plan to flood the West with radical Islamics and to create caliphates and take over, he was the first person I ever heard say that.

01:33:43.000 I thought, well, I believe him.

01:33:46.000 He sounds sincere and I can tell he's a man who believes in what he's doing.

01:33:50.000 He's a smart guy with all these letters to his name.

01:33:54.000 But man, that's really crazy.

01:33:56.000 Would the elite really do that?

01:33:57.000 And now, here's the headline, migrant crisis pushing Germany towards anarchy and civil war. 0.81

01:34:04.000 In one town alone, the Daily Mail reports 750 military-age men, basically.

01:34:09.000 In a town of 102, they're demanding the Germans pay for it all. 0.95

01:34:13.000 Same thing's happening here with the open borders.

01:34:15.000 Who talked about language, borders, culture?

01:34:17.000 Michael Savage.

01:34:19.000 So call him a prophet, a historian, a man before his time.

01:34:24.000 He is a renaissance man, of course, best-selling author, launched much of the modern herbal supplement movement we know of in the 60s and 70s.

01:34:32.000 If there's one guy, you could say Michael Savage under another nom de plume.

01:34:36.000 And now he's with us for just 30 minutes, so I'm going to shut up and go to him.

01:34:39.000 But I got to tell you, he's banned from entering England.

01:34:44.000 I've been threatened that I'll be banned from entering Europe or England now if I criticize radical Islam.

01:34:49.000 They're arresting Germans en masse and taking their kids from them if they criticize radical Islam.

01:34:54.000 The women are being told, don't wear short skirts. 1.00

01:34:56.000 They're canceling Christian holidays in public squares because the radical Islamics are offended. 0.59

01:35:04.000 This is the suicide of the West. 0.99

01:35:05.000 You talk about total mental illness, because these radical Islamics are going to go after the liberals first thing when they get control. 1.00

01:35:11.000 It is suicidal. 1.00

01:35:12.000 It's a form of cuckolding in my view.

01:35:14.000 He's got his new book out.

01:35:15.000 The last one was censored on China getting ready to make big moves.

01:35:19.000 You notice that all happened.

01:35:20.000 China's now involved with the clandestine radio they secretly own in the U.S. 0.71

01:35:24.000 trying to censor media.

01:35:26.000 They block Hollywood movies being released.

01:35:29.000 His new book, Government Zero, No Borders, No Language, No Culture.

01:35:32.000 And folks, you may all get it, but your friends and family don't.

01:35:36.000 This is a book you better give them this Christmas or this holiday season.

01:35:40.000 And I'm here pushing it because Savage needs support with his information.

01:35:44.000 He doesn't need money.

01:35:46.000 He needs to get the book out.

01:35:47.000 And you need to get the book out.

01:35:49.000 And you need to support people that are telling the truth.

01:35:51.000 Now, I'm done ranting.

01:35:52.000 I want him to come back in the next month for a full hour.

01:35:55.000 He's doing a book tour right now, so he's just got 25 minutes with us.

01:35:57.000 But to say it's dire when the Daily Beast says we need to confiscate guns, that's a quote, but the black helicopter people may fight back.

01:36:06.000 So, we're still crazy, even though we were right there coming for the guns, and we were right there going to get rid of the borders, and we were right there coming with forced inoculation, and we were right about world government with the Pope calling for it.

01:36:17.000 Michael Savage, I'm going to try to shut up, but I tell you, this is an epic moment.

01:36:21.000 You've laid so much knowledge on us.

01:36:24.000 Where are we now?

01:36:25.000 Where are we going?

01:36:27.000 Word is you're being censored as well.

01:36:29.000 They're trying to block your new book.

01:36:31.000 I mean, it is on.

01:36:32.000 They're saying they want to persecute the press.

01:36:34.000 Supreme Court Justice told Matt Drudge that they're coming next year to shut down basically talk radio and free speech on the Internet.

01:36:42.000 What do we do, Michael Savage?

01:36:42.000 I mean, it's here.

01:36:45.000 Okay, without hammering the book, I want to start with the title because it says it all.

01:36:49.000 Government Zero. 1.00

01:36:51.000 If we don't see President Zero invoking Government Zero, I'd like to know what it's going to take for the average moron out there, idiot moron fools, who have sold the country away, running around in shorts with Halloween costumes, with their children on drugs and sugar. 1.00

01:37:06.000 And they wonder why these SOBs with that monster tyrant leftist bastard in the White House. 1.00

01:37:14.000 This guy is the smartest leftist in the history of the world. 0.99

01:37:18.000 This slick BS artist, Barry from Honolulu, has done more harm to the world than Marx and Lenin put together.

01:37:27.000 And he gets away with it for one reason, Alex.

01:37:29.000 He doesn't shout like me.

01:37:31.000 Have you ever heard Barry from Honolulu scream?

01:37:34.000 Never.

01:37:34.000 No.

01:37:35.000 He is the smoothest con man in the history of the world. 1.00

01:37:39.000 He makes Soros look like a chump. 0.96

01:37:43.000 Soros, by the way, is behind breaking all the borders of Europe. 0.99

01:37:46.000 With his open society.

01:37:46.000 You know that.

01:37:49.000 You know, Soros is who flooded America with marijuana.

01:37:51.000 You know that.

01:37:52.000 Now, many people like marijuana.

01:37:54.000 I think it's one of the most toxic substances in the world.

01:37:57.000 It is the road to addiction.

01:38:00.000 It is a gateway drug.

01:38:01.000 Who has made it suddenly so friendly?

01:38:04.000 Ten years ago, I fought with one of Soros' minions on my radio show.

01:38:09.000 Soros was the first to fund medical marijuana initiatives in Arizona and California. 0.94

01:38:14.000 And I was arguing, are you people crazy?

01:38:17.000 It's a gateway drug. 0.98

01:38:18.000 You're going to hook a generation on drugs.

01:38:20.000 We had this argument.

01:38:21.000 It's history now.

01:38:22.000 Marijuana is as friendly as candy corn.

01:38:24.000 Everyone thinks it's a benign herb.

01:38:26.000 It is not.

01:38:27.000 So, what does it have to do with Soros' master plan?

01:38:30.000 The man is possibly the most evil genius on the planet in my estimation.

01:38:34.000 Why does he want to break the borders of every nation on Earth?

01:38:38.000 What is it that they're after?

01:38:40.000 What do you mean no borders?

01:38:41.000 Well, listen.

01:38:44.000 No borders, no language, no culture. 1.00

01:38:46.000 A mass of stupid drugged humanity. 1.00

01:38:49.000 Easily manipulated, turned into slaves, serfs in their own country. 1.00

01:38:53.000 What more do you need to know?

01:38:55.000 Children on drugs, parents on alcohol, marijuana, and drugs.

01:38:58.000 And then you have the puppet masters, as in the Godfather, the peasant Avantes, pulling the strings. 0.78

01:39:05.000 Sucking the money out of the people's pockets as they go to work like slaves, in their little slave factories, thinking they're free.

01:39:11.000 Remember Orwell's book?

01:39:13.000 Remember that great phrase, those who rattle their chains most loudly scream, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free?

01:39:18.000 Yes.

01:39:19.000 That's what Orwell wrote.

01:39:20.000 As he saw what communism had wrought in Europe, socialism, he was originally a socialist.

01:39:25.000 And then he saw who they really were. 0.90

01:39:26.000 He saw they were monsters and dictators. 0.90

01:39:28.000 He got into their upper sanctum.

01:39:30.000 He was led into the Fabian Socialist.

01:39:32.000 Stalin. 0.56

01:39:34.000 Hitler. 0.57

01:39:35.000 All socialists.

01:39:36.000 Everyone forgets that.

01:39:37.000 Very convenient to forget Hitler was a socialist. 0.87

01:39:40.000 Stalin, Hitler. 0.82

01:39:41.000 Socialists.

01:39:42.000 Different sides of the coin.

01:39:44.000 Now we have socialism is suddenly popular in America.

01:39:47.000 How's that possible? 1.00

01:39:48.000 Because the drugged morons don't even know what it is. 1.00

01:39:51.000 They don't know what it has wrought. 1.00

01:39:52.000 They don't know where it leads.

01:39:53.000 They have no idea what it'll do to them. 0.95

01:39:55.000 Now, couple that with bringing in as many Islamic fascists as you possibly can as quickly as you can. 0.99

01:40:01.000 Why?

01:40:02.000 Why are they bringing in so many young men of military age into Europe?

01:40:08.000 Into America.

01:40:10.000 What's their game plan here?

01:40:12.000 And now throw in what you're talking about, confiscation of guns.

01:40:15.000 It ain't happening, Alex.

01:40:16.000 We're not Australia.

01:40:17.000 Australia had no Second Amendment, that's number one. 0.87

01:40:20.000 And I will remind you and your audience, and this is the most important thing, Alex, I'm sorry for the day.

01:40:26.000 I have a tape that I keep playing on my radio show from Elena Kagan.

01:40:31.000 When she was appointed to the Supreme Court, when she went through the fake hearing, the kangaroo fake hearing of whether she should be appointed or not, she was asked about the Second Amendment.

01:40:40.000 Remember her?

01:40:40.000 She's this kind of pickle saleswoman from the Lower East Side of New York.

01:40:44.000 Looks like the penguin.

01:40:45.000 Yeah, pickle saleswoman. 1.00

01:40:46.000 In my day, the most she would have done is sold bloomers at Macy's. 0.99

01:40:50.000 Now she's on the Supreme Court. 1.00

01:40:51.000 This is right out of the Communist China playbook. 0.79

01:40:53.000 Take people from the bottom and put them on the top, take people on the top and throw them to the bottom.

01:40:58.000 So, Elena Kagan, when she was grilled, fake grilled, she says, where do you stand on guns?

01:41:03.000 And she says, the Second Amendment is established law.

01:41:07.000 The Second Amendment is established law.

01:41:11.000 Well, if it's established law, how could Barry from Honolulu take your guns?

01:41:15.000 How could the witch from Arkansas or Chaplin? 0.72

01:41:17.000 I agree with you, but they're openly licking their chops, is what I'm saying.

01:41:20.000 I agree it'll start a civil war. 0.56

01:41:22.000 I agree they're not going to get away with it.

01:41:23.000 But they're openly now, Hillary, Obama, others saying we do need to look at confiscation.

01:41:29.000 That's a bold move.

01:41:30.000 Why are they shooting their mouths off?

01:41:33.000 There was a time not too long ago when the Democrats would never even touch God. 1.00

01:41:38.000 Guns and gays. 1.00

01:41:39.000 Remember that time not so long ago? 0.99

01:41:42.000 But Barry from Honolulu is such a slick con artist that he's so hoodwinked, the American drug addict, that they actually think it's time for socialism, gun seizure, no borders, and flood America with your Muslim brethren. 1.00

01:41:56.000 The people are stupid and they're drugged, Alec! 1.00

01:41:59.000 And they sensed they could get away with it. 1.00

01:42:01.000 They're reading the tea leaves wrong.

01:42:01.000 But you know what?

01:42:04.000 There'll be a revolution and they're gonna lose, Alex.

01:42:07.000 There are too many guns and too many people ready to fight them.

01:42:09.000 I'm not calling for revolution.

01:42:11.000 They are.

01:42:12.000 Let's be very clear.

01:42:13.000 I am a man of peace.

01:42:16.000 I am a man of peace, but we have gangsters running this country. 0.91

01:42:21.000 Gangsters! 0.97

01:42:21.000 Criminals! 0.97

01:42:22.000 What the hell is this highway bill all about? 0.77

01:42:25.000 The first day... I'm sorry for yelling.

01:42:26.000 No, no, we're normal. 0.87

01:42:28.000 We see total criminal takeover, the death of freedom, the death of the West, and these crazy socialists that so hate freedom that they want to bring in the most radical Sunni Wahhabist to run around and rape people, and the Swiss and Dutch and all the rest of these police just let them go under orders. 0.92

01:42:46.000 I mean, it's just crazy that we've gotten to this point and it's normal to get angry.

01:42:50.000 We need to get people out of their coma.

01:42:52.000 How do we do that?

01:42:53.000 I gotta go back to Paul Ryan.

01:42:55.000 He gives a speech today that I hear on ABC News about the highway bill.

01:42:59.000 Listen to this.

01:42:59.000 The first day he gives a speech, what's it about?

01:43:02.000 The highway bill.

01:43:03.000 Who was it that was pushing the highway bill for years now?

01:43:05.000 Nancy Pelosi! 0.99

01:43:08.000 Put two and two together.

01:43:10.000 Why is it a highway bill that's on the top of their list?

01:43:12.000 Because Pelosi supported him.

01:43:14.000 Why does Pelosi push it?

01:43:17.000 There's an old adage, all roads lead to Rome.

01:43:19.000 You ever hear that one going back to ancient times?

01:43:21.000 Absolutely.

01:43:22.000 All roads lead to Rome.

01:43:24.000 That's as far as I can go without winding up with lead shoes in the bottom of San Francisco Bay.

01:43:29.000 And I'll let it hang in the air.

01:43:31.000 It is the most corrupt, degenerate, criminal government in American history, and I'm not saying this for effect, nor to sell a book.

01:43:38.000 I'm trying to awaken people. 0.66

01:43:40.000 Unfortunately, Alec, your audience is already awakened.

01:43:42.000 They're agitated.

01:43:43.000 They're ready to strike.

01:43:44.000 They don't know what to do. 1.00

01:43:45.000 But look at the morons around you. 1.00

01:43:47.000 Go walk in the streets. 1.00

01:43:48.000 They're zombies.

01:43:49.000 You know, I walked in San Francisco yesterday, the most beautiful city.

01:43:51.000 I love it to death.

01:43:53.000 I'm walking through a park near the Embarcadero, and without being graphic, I'm an old boy scout, so I read footprints in the woods and I can read droppings in the woods.

01:44:03.000 I was taught how to follow droppings of what kind of animal it is.

01:44:07.000 Well, there was a dropping on the ground on the sidewalk that I said there were no bears in the city.

01:44:12.000 How could the... This can't be a bear.

01:44:14.000 Well, it's an admitted record problem in San Francisco, public defecation, and now in government buildings, even when they have bathrooms, they're so mentally ill that they just enjoy crapping in public. 0.95

01:44:26.000 What does that say about a civilization, Alex? 0.99

01:44:29.000 That people are allowed to crap without having their heads broken open by a cop. 0.97

01:44:33.000 In my day, if a guy did that, a big Irish cop would smash him on the head with a nightstick, and drag him into the prison, and hose him down and throw him into a jail, and leave him there. 0.99

01:44:44.000 Well, what kind of country is this that permits this to go on?

01:44:48.000 Now, you ask yourself, if society is breaking down, and at the same time they're trying to break us down, What is it all about?

01:44:55.000 So the public defecation could be stopped in one second, right?

01:44:58.000 So what is this about?

01:45:00.000 It's to constantly lower the standards of the middle class.

01:45:04.000 Constantly dehumanize the middle class. 0.60

01:45:07.000 That's it.

01:45:08.000 Dehumanize, desensitize, weaken, weaken, weaken, weaken, weaken, until eventually they have no resistance to whatever the evil criminal gangsters in the regime might do next.

01:45:20.000 It's as simple as that, Alex.

01:45:23.000 And at the want and at the wish to not offend people who think I'm peddling a book, I have to mention my great new book.

01:45:31.000 Let's talk about the book, absolutely.

01:45:33.000 Now you certainly don't need to make money, but people need to get this book and get it out to everybody.

01:45:38.000 It's at michelsavage.com, amazon.com, all the big bookstores are carrying it.

01:45:45.000 I've been told, I saw some news on this, and of course you were telling me that you certainly have intel on it, there are moves to really try to censor and block your books.

01:45:53.000 Look, first of all the good news is despite the censoring, despite no appearance on Fox News ever, ever!

01:46:02.000 Zero! 0.90

01:46:03.000 Fox News, conservative outlet, are you kidding me?

01:46:06.000 Michael Savage officially banned.

01:46:06.000 Zero.

01:46:08.000 ABC, CBS, NBC, banned.

01:46:10.000 CNBC, banned.

01:46:12.000 So, I go on your show.

01:46:14.000 Laura Ingraham has a small show.

01:46:15.000 I love her to death.

01:46:16.000 She's brilliant.

01:46:18.000 Who else has me on?

01:46:19.000 Nobody.

01:46:20.000 Despite the media blackout, the audience is so loyal.

01:46:23.000 The book is number two this week on the Barnes & Noble bestseller.

01:46:26.000 Excuse me.

01:46:27.000 We just got the news this morning.

01:46:28.000 It's number two on the Yeah, Barnes & Noble bestseller list.

01:46:31.000 We don't know what it'll be on the New York Times list.

01:46:33.000 God knows they manipulate that one.

01:46:35.000 Oh, it's admittedly manipulated.

01:46:37.000 People are reporting that they're going in stores and they're finding stacks of the books with the covers bent.

01:46:44.000 So you got sabotage.

01:46:44.000 Wow.

01:46:46.000 Then they're finding the book in the back.

01:46:48.000 Not on the front table, which the publisher paid for, but in the back on the feminine hygiene. 0.98

01:46:52.000 That's a joke, but that's where they're putting it.

01:46:54.000 Anywhere but where you can find it.

01:46:56.000 Now, which books are selling well?

01:46:59.000 Why, O'Reilly's books, The Killing Series. 0.96

01:47:01.000 What are people buying that garbage for? 0.96

01:47:03.000 What's the revelation about killing Patton or killing Reagan? 0.97

01:47:06.000 Can you tell me why anybody would read a book like that?

01:47:08.000 What are they finding in the book that they don't already know?

01:47:10.000 It's mindless, it's non-threatening.

01:47:12.000 They want to think they're pseudo-intellectuals.

01:47:14.000 They want to sit back and read something that's utterly mindless.

01:47:18.000 Well, I said this facetiously, and I certainly don't mean it, but I said I'm waiting for the next book in the series by him called Killing O'Reilly.

01:47:25.000 Maybe he'll do us all a favor and end it already.

01:47:27.000 He's got some franchise going there, doesn't he?

01:47:29.000 But nevertheless, let's get back to serious stuff.

01:47:31.000 No borders, no language, no culture.

01:47:33.000 What does that matter?

01:47:34.000 Leftists says, hey, savage, what the heck are you so excited about?

01:47:38.000 What do you need a border for?

01:47:40.000 And what are you holding on to English for?

01:47:43.000 Your parents were immigrants, weren't they, Michael?

01:47:46.000 Yes, and so what's your point, Larry?

01:47:48.000 I was on Larry King last week.

01:47:49.000 He has a little show on Russian television.

01:47:51.000 How is that for a funny come about of events?

01:47:54.000 But I actually like Larry King, but you know why, Alex?

01:47:56.000 He's a liberal, old school, nice liberal, smart, but not vicious.

01:48:01.000 Totally different than the new generation of progressive psychos, right?

01:48:05.000 So he says to me, your parents were immigrants, so what are you afraid of?

01:48:10.000 Someone not speaking English.

01:48:12.000 I said, I don't care what language they speak at home. 0.98

01:48:14.000 My grandmother never spoke a word of English.

01:48:16.000 But my father drilled into me, you're in America. 0.89

01:48:19.000 Learn English.

01:48:20.000 Learn it the best way you can.

01:48:21.000 Become an American.

01:48:23.000 You're not living anywhere else.

01:48:24.000 Be an American.

01:48:25.000 That's not the ethos of this generation, is it?

01:48:28.000 Do you hear them teaching their children to learn English?

01:48:31.000 They're teaching them to learn anything but English.

01:48:32.000 Stamp on the country that's so good to you.

01:48:34.000 Don't learn their language. 0.99

01:48:36.000 There is no culture there.

01:48:37.000 How long has the left taught us that America has no culture?

01:48:40.000 It's an acculturated nation.

01:48:42.000 We're a nation with no culture. 1.00

01:48:43.000 They want to get rid of our culture so they can then download into us their sick, mentally ill culture. 0.99

01:48:49.000 And you were one of the first to say this, but more and more it's clear. 0.99

01:48:52.000 The top liberals are vicious mafia social engineers, as you've documented, but their minions really are mentally ill basket cases. 0.82

01:49:00.000 I'm sure you saw the Atlantic Monthly article a few weeks ago about the coddled generation admitting, and these are leftists saying, that their college students have now become like these weird Maoist youth brigades that shout them down for just any language. 0.98

01:49:15.000 They are complete The fascist basket cases that just flip out and now want to ban the word mother and father.

01:49:23.000 You're a father, Alec.

01:49:24.000 You know that children need discipline.

01:49:27.000 You know what happens when you raise them without discipline.

01:49:28.000 They become animals.

01:49:30.000 I was in a Chinese restaurant last night in San Francisco.

01:49:34.000 I love a dumpy restaurant that I go to.

01:49:36.000 There was a kid, two of them, running around screaming at the top of the lungs, I mean screeching, with the food you couldn't even digest it.

01:49:43.000 I wasn't going to say anything because, you know, what are you going to do?

01:49:47.000 I looked at the father.

01:49:48.000 He was a nice looking guy, not a weakling, but indulgent.

01:49:52.000 Afraid to say no to Johnny.

01:49:54.000 The type that when Johnny defecates in his hand and wipes it on the wall, he will say, Johnny, he is an artist.

01:50:00.000 That's a Shigali just painted. 0.98

01:50:02.000 Don't wipe it off the wall. 1.00

01:50:05.000 These people are crazy. 1.00

01:50:06.000 They are. 1.00

01:50:07.000 They have no discipline themselves.

01:50:09.000 Remember, if the father's 30, 32, 33, right?

01:50:13.000 He may look good.

01:50:15.000 What's amazing to me is that these guys are well-built.

01:50:17.000 They all go to the gym, right, Alex?

01:50:20.000 They all got abs, but they have no cerebrum.

01:50:22.000 They don't have the minds of men.

01:50:24.000 Well, they have abs, they have good abs, but no cerebrum folds, no folds in the brain.

01:50:29.000 They have folds in the stomach. 0.97

01:50:30.000 It's like zomboids walking around, wild, crazy children. 1.00

01:50:34.000 This child's made to be only one thing, which is a tort lawyer. 0.53

01:50:37.000 That's all they grow up to be.

01:50:38.000 And if he fails at that, he can become a government worker.

01:50:41.000 But aside from the facetiousness, okay, discipline gone, society going, breaking down at the top gangster regime, sucking us dry.

01:50:50.000 Paul Ryan, first speech, first speech, first speech.

01:50:53.000 Highway bill, highway bill, highway bill.

01:50:55.000 Who's in the highway building business?

01:50:57.000 Who makes the trillions off the highway bill? 0.97

01:51:00.000 Are you in the highway business?

01:51:01.000 No, but Nancy Pelosi went into Congress worth about a half a million now. 1.00

01:51:05.000 She's worth hundreds of millions. 0.84

01:51:06.000 And her husband suddenly became worth billions.

01:51:09.000 She's a nice lady. 1.00

01:51:11.000 Of course, I'm sure she's friends with Don Corleone.

01:51:12.000 Very nice.

01:51:13.000 She's a sweet grandmother.

01:51:14.000 And you know, what's also nice about Pelosi is the fact that her brother-in-law got about a $1.2 billion loan from the government for a solar plant in the Nevada desert.

01:51:25.000 And he did so well in producing about a megawatt of energy for it that they gave him another $800 million, according to what I've recently read.

01:51:32.000 How come it's not in any of the newspapers?

01:51:34.000 Have you ever seen corruption like this couldn't even go on today?

01:51:37.000 Yeah, what's wrong with Harry Reid giving billions in contracts to his sons?

01:51:41.000 He's got like four or five of them.

01:51:43.000 That's nothing!

01:51:44.000 That shouldn't even be in the news!

01:51:45.000 I mean, how dare you do your research?

01:51:47.000 It's totally normal.

01:51:48.000 Where's the Republican Party?

01:51:49.000 There is none.

01:51:49.000 It's a one-party system.

01:51:51.000 Oligarchy. 0.74

01:51:52.000 All the conservatives that were put in last year.

01:51:55.000 Were put at the back of the bus.

01:51:56.000 Remember how much hope we had in November when I wrote Stop the Coming Civil War? 0.87

01:52:00.000 I said, hold your nose, go vote for Republicans and we'll put their feet to the fire after they win. 0.99

01:52:04.000 Guess what?

01:52:05.000 Boehner has no feet.

01:52:07.000 McConnell has no feet.

01:52:08.000 There's no feet to put on the fire.

01:52:10.000 They're empty shells.

01:52:12.000 They were never men.

01:52:13.000 They were never there.

01:52:14.000 They were factotums of Barry from Honolulu.

01:52:17.000 One party.

01:52:18.000 Period. 0.84

01:52:19.000 It is a fascist dictatorship. 0.98

01:52:21.000 He wants to crush us under his fist. 1.00

01:52:23.000 He is the worst monster in the history of America. 0.99

01:52:25.000 And if he uses an executive order to go around Congress on immigration, we need 10 million people demanding, immediately demanding, that an impeachment hearing be started, whether or not those cowardly, useless, gangster Republicans do it or not. 0.99

01:52:37.000 We need a People's Tribunal. 0.90

01:52:39.000 Let's be positive for a moment.

01:52:40.000 I agree.

01:52:41.000 We need a People's Tribunal and find these people guilty of war crimes.

01:52:45.000 I agree, but your audience, my audience, Drudge and WorldNetDaily and a lot of other great people did get organized.

01:52:51.000 We did get 40 or so libertarian constitutionalists.

01:52:55.000 They did get rid of Boner. 0.96

01:52:59.000 Then, of course, they brought in Ryan.

01:53:01.000 The point is we get a whole nother group in.

01:53:03.000 They won't be able to suppress 80 to 100.

01:53:06.000 So we are marching forward.

01:53:08.000 We are getting closer.

01:53:09.000 But I expect they're going to pull out all the stops now to try to shut down our free speech, which they've said they'll do, to stop us resting control.

01:53:17.000 You said yourself 10 minutes ago there's going to be a revolution in this country.

01:53:20.000 I hope it's peaceful.

01:53:22.000 So specifically, Michael Savage joining us right now, michaelsavage.com, the new book, Government Zero, No Borders, No Language, No Culture.

01:53:29.000 In the five, six minutes we have left, what do you expect the empire to strike back with?

01:53:34.000 And what do we do to counter them?

01:53:35.000 You know, my book is not just a screed of complaints and screaming.

01:53:41.000 It's a well-organized, because I'm a scholar by training, book.

01:53:45.000 At the end of the book, I have 40 action points, direct actions that have to be taken immediately to save the nation.

01:53:53.000 The number one thing is create a nationalist party.

01:53:56.000 Now you may say, that's crazy.

01:53:58.000 That has no chance of winning.

01:54:00.000 Not now, Alex.

01:54:02.000 Alex, we have to start laying the groundwork to save the country by creating a new party, the Nationalist Party.

01:54:09.000 You know there's a word going around, liberal parents beware, the millennials are very conservative.

01:54:15.000 Do you know that?

01:54:16.000 Yes. 0.98

01:54:17.000 You know that it's a conservative generation that's rebelling against the insane drug addicted liberal parents?

01:54:22.000 If we had a charismatic young leader, if I were 40 right now and knew what I know now and had the reach I have now, I wouldn't run for office.

01:54:22.000 Yes.

01:54:30.000 Excuse me, it's corrupt.

01:54:32.000 I'd create the Nationalist Party knowing that in 10 years we'd win in this country.

01:54:38.000 So I'm not going to do it.

01:54:40.000 I'm not young enough to create a party, nationalist party, to close the borders for seven years.

01:54:45.000 I didn't say anything but close the borders for seven years.

01:54:49.000 Absorb all those who are here. 1.00

01:54:51.000 Number three, deport all illegal aliens dot dot dot in prison. 1.00

01:54:56.000 See, people misquote me. 0.52

01:54:58.000 I said, first start by deporting the criminal illegal aliens in prison. 0.99

01:55:02.000 Alex, one third of all our prisoners, as I point out, as you well know, one third of our prisoners are illegal aliens.

01:55:08.000 What are we paying them for?

01:55:11.000 Get him out of the country.

01:55:12.000 Empty the prisons of one third of the prisoners.

01:55:15.000 People say, well I'll only come right back.

01:55:16.000 Concurrently do what Trump said, build the wall.

01:55:19.000 Israel built the wall, it works real good. 0.52

01:55:21.000 Walls work.

01:55:23.000 China built one to keep the Mongols out. 0.99

01:55:25.000 Israel built one to keep the Palestinians out. 0.96

01:55:28.000 Now, of course, they're being stabbed to death by those that they let in. 0.98

01:55:31.000 They'll have to do something next.

01:55:32.000 Number three, build a wall.

01:55:34.000 So, one, Nationalist Party.

01:55:36.000 Two, deport illegal aliens in prisons. 0.98

01:55:38.000 Not such a bold idea.

01:55:40.000 Who's in favor of keeping them in our prisons at $60,000 a year, other than the prison guard unions?

01:55:46.000 Three, Wall.

01:55:49.000 Build a wall.

01:55:50.000 Four.

01:55:51.000 And listen to this.

01:55:52.000 Make English the official language of America.

01:55:54.000 That doesn't mean it's illegal to speak another language in your home.

01:55:57.000 Plus, English is the global language.

01:55:59.000 Everyone should want to learn English.

01:56:00.000 It's the language.

01:56:02.000 San Francisco, eight languages on the ballot.

01:56:04.000 Now what was the reason for that? 0.99

01:56:06.000 So Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, and the corrupt government in San Francisco can get all the illegal aliens to put these corrupt, illegal, left-wing phenomenal bastards in power over and over again. 1.00

01:56:17.000 Over and over and over again! 1.00

01:56:18.000 We have people crapping in the street, you got dogs running wild in the street, you got girls being shot in the street, and these corrupt bastards! 1.00

01:56:25.000 They are just pieces of trash. 1.00

01:56:27.000 In the three minutes we've got left, you've got to come back for an hour soon. 0.99

01:56:30.000 MichaelSavage.com, Michael Savage is our guest.

01:56:32.000 How do you expect Obama to leave office?

01:56:37.000 How do you expect him to try to take over and put his people in so they can't be removed even though he leaves office?

01:56:43.000 There's a permanent bureaucracy.

01:56:44.000 How do you expect them to leave?

01:56:47.000 What are their dirty tricks?

01:56:48.000 What are you watching out for?

01:56:50.000 Well, number one, he's already done it with the Justice Department, the illegal, corrupt, anti-American Justice Department.

01:56:55.000 He's put people in positions that are lifetime positions.

01:56:58.000 What this Barry from Honolulu doesn't know is that if we had a strong leader take over, and I pray to God, Trump wins.

01:57:05.000 I don't know what you think of him.

01:57:07.000 He's our only hope right now.

01:57:08.000 I think he's a lot better than Hillary, and I agree with what he has to say, and I hope he's for real.

01:57:11.000 I'm supportive.

01:57:12.000 He uses executive orders and he gets rid of all of these appointees.

01:57:15.000 Throws them out!

01:57:16.000 And says, go sue me.

01:57:17.000 I'm the government. 1.00

01:57:18.000 Go to hell. 1.00

01:57:19.000 Get out. 1.00

01:57:20.000 He throws out Perez, for example.

01:57:21.000 I have all their names in Governments of Europe.

01:57:24.000 They're in here. 0.65

01:57:25.000 All of these corrupt leftists that he planted are in there. 1.00

01:57:28.000 Get rid of them. 1.00

01:57:29.000 Executive order.

01:57:30.000 There are things that can be done.

01:57:31.000 It's not hopeless.

01:57:32.000 We just need a strong leader who loves America.

01:57:34.000 We'll restore our borders, language, and culture.

01:57:36.000 And by the way, that's not enough.

01:57:39.000 I want to see these people tried for the crimes they have committed.

01:57:43.000 The corruption, the corruption, the corruption, the money, the contracts, the grants, the stolen money.

01:57:43.000 We have to.

01:57:48.000 Uruguay couldn't get away with this today. 0.92

01:57:51.000 We're lower than a banana republic under this gangster regime. 0.79

01:57:55.000 It is.

01:57:55.000 I mean, it's just pure insider trading.

01:57:57.000 Congress gets caught five years ago, so they go pass a law legalizing it.

01:58:00.000 Well, you can't legalize child molestation just so they pass a law.

01:58:04.000 I think we're getting ready to hit bottom.

01:58:06.000 Is that what you mean by government zero?

01:58:08.000 That zero hour is here?

01:58:09.000 No, but it's a very good analysis.

01:58:13.000 I didn't think of it.

01:58:14.000 Thank you for your insight.

01:58:15.000 I meant government zero means not a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, but a government of itself, by itself, and for itself.

01:58:25.000 We have zero government.

01:58:26.000 We have a lawless criminal group.

01:58:28.000 Exactly.

01:58:28.000 Zero representation.

01:58:30.000 A government is supposed to be representative, not a group, a cadre of a zero, zero, zero, one percent of trillionaires who put the stooges in and drop us dry.

01:58:40.000 Mark Zuckerberg!

01:58:41.000 Michael Savage, I'm going to read the book.

01:58:43.000 My producer ran home with it, but it's amazing.

01:58:45.000 Powerful book.

01:58:46.000 MichaelSavage.com.

01:58:47.000 We'll come say bye to you during the break.

01:58:48.000 Thank you for coming on with us, Michael.

01:58:50.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:58:51.000 Powerful, powerful interview.

01:58:53.000 We'll be back in a second.

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02:00:01.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:13.000 Big Brother.

02:00:15.000 Mainstream media.

02:00:16.000 Government cover-ups.

02:00:18.000 You want answers?

02:00:20.000 Well, so does he.

02:00:21.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:31.000 I have never had a deer-in-the-headlights experience this crazy, because I'm not really a fan of, like, rock stars, movie stars, people like that.

02:00:37.000 I like politics, and I'm sitting there during that 70-second break, and Matt Drudge rounds the corner over here, and it was just, like, total and complete deer-in-the-headlights, and I'm still double-taking here, and then he's hiding over there in the shadows right now.

02:00:53.000 I'm not kidding.

02:00:54.000 They're gonna say there's another conspiracy theory, and we got Anthony Guicciardi.

02:00:58.000 Is Matt Drudge over there?

02:01:01.000 He is over there.

02:01:02.000 Come on, just for a second to give the national media a heart attack.

02:01:05.000 Can you just walk over here behind the stage?

02:01:06.000 They're not going to believe it.

02:01:08.000 No, see, it's right around this way.

02:01:10.000 I haven't had one photo in eight years.

02:01:11.000 I know you haven't had one photo in eight years.

02:01:13.000 All right, I'm going to turn the mic your way.

02:01:15.000 They can do voice print.

02:01:16.000 Is this Matt Grudge?

02:01:19.000 Okay, it's made up.

02:01:21.000 It's a stunt.

02:01:22.000 April Fools came early.

02:01:24.000 Five months early?

02:01:24.000 What?

02:01:24.000 How many months early?

02:01:26.000 April Fools, folks, I fooled ya. 0.66

02:01:28.000 Well, am I supposed to go to rebroadcast now that you're here?

02:01:31.000 Because I'm in a... You get to hang out with my crew and I'm on the air?

02:01:34.000 This is, like, diabolical.

02:01:38.000 Oh my gosh.

02:01:39.000 Anyways, no, seriously.

02:01:41.000 Do you think folks are gonna believe Matt Drudge was here?

02:01:45.000 I don't even believe he's here.

02:01:47.000 I didn't believe it only because it's like it was like such short notice it was like boom I remember years ago but anyways I'm not gonna get into it this is this is crazy all right well I'm not gonna be aggressive and turn the lights on over there and aim the document cam over there but Matt Grudge came in said hi to me thought it was a three-minute break and then went over there I'm definitely going to have to play a clip or something we have one of those special reports coming back from the next break Alright, this has now entered complete twilight zone.

02:02:15.000 Hey, but we got a new article up on InfoWars.

02:02:18.000 Obama arms ISIS militants, pushes gun control on very same day.

02:02:23.000 Obama authorizes resupplying Syrian opposition on same day he demands gun control against American citizens.

02:02:30.000 And of course I was covering this Breitbart article a lot that I missed.

02:02:33.000 I miss stuff all the time.

02:02:34.000 I mean, I knew they were doing this, but I didn't know they were actually openly doing it.

02:02:39.000 Obama administration and UN announced global police force to fight extremism in US.

02:02:45.000 And then we've got all these callers that want to talk to me.

02:02:48.000 You know, Matt has hosted the Drudge Report show for so long, but also Rush Limbaugh.

02:02:53.000 So I would imagine he could come over here and actually host the show for us, except he's not really here.

02:02:59.000 What if we put a microphone into the darkness coming out of the break and folks can do a voice print analysis to see if it's Matt Drudge?

02:03:09.000 He's not going to do it?

02:03:12.000 I'm telling you, this is so classically reclusive.

02:03:14.000 I wish I could do that.

02:03:15.000 He is back there right now.

02:03:17.000 It's taken a lot of work to get to this point.

02:03:19.000 I know it's taken a lot of work to get to this point.

02:03:21.000 I admire you.

02:03:22.000 Maybe I should become reclusive.

02:03:24.000 Huh?

02:03:25.000 He's a big guy.

02:03:26.000 And in good shape, too.

02:03:27.000 I was like, man, who is that big guy?

02:03:29.000 I recognize that guy.

02:03:29.000 Who is that?

02:03:30.000 Who's that with him?

02:03:31.000 I was like, oh my God.

02:03:33.000 What did I look like, Buckley, when he walked in?

02:03:37.000 Flabbergasted.

02:03:38.000 I mean, I literally was like, who is that?

02:03:40.000 You are something else, man!

02:03:43.000 God, I tell ya!

02:03:44.000 He's got a lot of class, the way he pulls stuff off.

02:03:47.000 I'm kind of the opposite, like a bull in a china shop. 0.79

02:03:50.000 A loose cannon.

02:03:52.000 Anyways, I was already super wound up today.

02:03:54.000 I've already had too many DNA forces today, and this has now just pushed me over the edge.

02:03:58.000 I need some Jack Daniels Buckley immediately.

02:04:02.000 I've not been drinking.

02:04:04.000 Since last Thursday, I've been being a good boy, and I've been being nice, but I tell you, I may have to... I don't have any... What do you call them?

02:04:14.000 Tranquilizers.

02:04:15.000 But I think I need a tranquilizer dart or something.

02:04:18.000 All right, folks, we'll be right back.

02:04:20.000 No, seriously, because I'm starstruck right now.

02:04:23.000 This is crazy.

02:04:23.000 And the way he did it is even worse.

02:04:26.000 And then it's going to be even worse when they have, like, Some major establishment, White House-driven publication saying I made it all up.

02:04:34.000 So we at least, well we can't get a photo for Twitter.

02:04:37.000 What are we gonna do?

02:04:38.000 The suspense is deafening.

02:04:40.000 DrudgeReport.com, you can read up there where this guy put stuff on his Facebook, the supposed shooter, about how he just had so many pills he was on, psychotropics, lithium, and other things, that he ended up just taking five at a time.

02:04:54.000 So the question is, was he on meds?

02:04:56.000 And the answer is, does a bear You know, do different things like jump rope in the woods.

02:05:02.000 We'll be right back.

02:05:03.000 We'll be right back.

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02:08:07.000 Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real?

02:08:23.000 What if you were unable to wake from that dream?

02:08:29.000 How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

02:08:37.000 The answer is out there, Neo.

02:08:39.000 It's the question that drives us.

02:08:42.000 What is the Matrix?

02:08:46.000 The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

02:08:51.000 What truth? 1.00

02:08:52.000 Human beings are a disease. 0.99

02:08:54.000 You are a cancer of this planet, and we are the cure. 0.99

02:09:00.000 They estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers. 1.00

02:09:06.000 And when I say eliminate, I mean kill.

02:09:08.000 The Matrix is a system, Neil. - That system is our enemy.

02:09:19.000 When you're inside, you look around, what do you see?

02:09:22.000 Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters.

02:09:26.000 The very minds of the people we are trying to save.

02:09:29.000 But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.

02:09:34.000 You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.

02:09:40.000 And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

02:09:48.000 We are trained to deceive if we have to.

02:09:50.000 You shouldn't trust me.

02:09:51.000 I will taint the news.

02:09:52.000 Our propaganda was beginning to pay off.

02:09:54.000 And our Lord and Savior, Barack Obama!

02:09:59.000 Genetically modified sounds Frankenstein-ish.

02:10:02.000 Drought resistance sounds really something you'd want. 0.97

02:10:07.000 I am not a dictator, I'm the president.

02:10:10.000 This is a full, dishonorable, scientific mafia warfare takedown.

02:10:16.000 Public policy could itself Become the captain of a scientific technological elite.

02:10:23.000 These people are coming for everybody!

02:10:25.000 I'm not gonna wait around to be soft killed.

02:10:27.000 I'm not gonna wait around and watch my family die around me. 0.96

02:10:30.000 I'm gonna die fighting!

02:10:31.000 You take the blue pill, the story ends.

02:10:35.000 You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

02:10:39.000 You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland.

02:10:43.000 And I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

02:10:49.000 The Alex Jones Show.

02:10:52.000 Because there is a war on, for your mind. 1.00

02:10:57.000 Stop being a moron! 1.00

02:10:59.000 Stop being dishonorable! 1.00

02:11:01.000 Within 15 years they say, CNN, that everyone will be merged with machines, or will be obsolete.

02:11:08.000 I'm not gonna sit here and take it anymore.

02:11:11.000 Welcome to the real world.

02:11:17.000 *Dramatic music* Alright folks, Alex Jones here back live, well into the third hour.

02:11:23.000 I did not do this as a stunt, neither did Matt Drudge.

02:11:25.000 He is here.

02:11:26.000 We got a hot mic over there, he wants to stay literally in the shadows behind a curtain.

02:11:31.000 But this is the king of being able to push a story out and make it the number one story in the world.

02:11:35.000 They even admit that in the New York Times, that he has more readers on politics and news Then Facebook, the New York Times, and the Washington Post, LA Times put together.

02:11:45.000 He's got some of our stories where the shooter himself said he was on a bunch of drugs.

02:11:50.000 He's linked to that today.

02:11:51.000 And that's the story they don't want out there.

02:11:53.000 Or the story where CNN took a mixed racial Christian hater and turned him into a right-wing white supremacist and turned him white.

02:12:00.000 They don't want people knowing that, but Matt Drudge and his great crew can link to alternative stories, foreign stories, mainstream stories, photos, mugshots, and really just focus on what Matt Drudge thinks is interesting, and the public tends to agree with him that what he focuses in on is really catching the zeitgeist or the pulse of the people.

02:12:20.000 So he might have 50 links every day, where Facebook has 500 million, but he has more traffic.

02:12:26.000 That is the true David versus Goliath story, and this is not scripted.

02:12:31.000 I have no idea where I should go.

02:12:34.000 Matt Drudge, I guess you're here for ACL, or why are you in Austin, Texas?

02:12:39.000 Well, you were just talking about Facebook, and thanks again for having me here.

02:12:43.000 I'm not on Facebook.

02:12:45.000 Um, I don't do the socials.

02:12:47.000 I've got that little Twitter thing.

02:12:49.000 Even that's kind of disgusting.

02:12:51.000 You know, I've been doing the internet as long as you've been doing this radio show, Alex.

02:12:55.000 Literally every day, as you have literally every day, practically.

02:12:59.000 I think you've taken a little more time off than I have, actually.

02:13:01.000 Yes, I've kind of gone.

02:13:02.000 And I can't say that about many people, because you are a peer without peer.

02:13:07.000 And I'll tell you, I was there before Facebook.

02:13:10.000 I was there before CNN.com.

02:13:12.000 I was there before Mostly all of them.

02:13:17.000 I have a very clear perception what the internet is.

02:13:21.000 In my mind.

02:13:22.000 I'm free.

02:13:23.000 I'm not defined by what they say the Internet is.

02:13:28.000 Meaning Goldman Sachs, meaning who they invest in for the latest startup, meaning the latest BuzzFeed or Salon or Gawker.

02:13:34.000 Well, Gawker's more independent.

02:13:36.000 But there's a lot of corporate makeover of the Internet that I have not adapted to.

02:13:43.000 Simply put.

02:13:45.000 I'm friends with some of them.

02:13:46.000 When I go to New York, I make the 6th Avenue rounds, but I am not a part of that system.

02:13:53.000 I'm a free thinker.

02:13:54.000 I'm very concerned with what's happening.

02:13:54.000 I'm an American.

02:14:01.000 So, I just give it my all.

02:14:03.000 I've learned how to take care of myself and detach from outcomes because otherwise You can't survive.

02:14:11.000 And I don't know where you are on that topic.

02:14:13.000 I just follow my instinct because they always tell us how to adapt to be successful, but really we're just adapting to their mindset to be their slaves.

02:14:21.000 I don't.

02:14:21.000 No, you don't.

02:14:22.000 I have remained completely independent from all of them.

02:14:27.000 All of them!

02:14:29.000 I am not influenced by any of them.

02:14:33.000 I need no traffic from Google.

02:14:35.000 I don't care if I get one traffic referral from Google, or Bing, or Yahoo, or any of these others.

02:14:41.000 It's always been that way.

02:14:43.000 Now if you think of that setup, how rare that is, because everybody's so hungry for referrals, for likes, I don't need to be liked.

02:14:53.000 I don't need to be liked at all.

02:14:54.000 I don't care if there's a button right there at the top of Drudge saying like or dislike.

02:14:59.000 Thumbs up, thumbs down, doesn't mean anything.

02:15:01.000 Now, I hope that you come, doesn't mean you necessarily have to like what I have up there.

02:15:07.000 Now, where I've had a lot of success is I'm getting people from both sides of the aisle.

02:15:11.000 They've always said, oh, he's a right-wing gossip monger, mainly because of Lewinsky in those years, which, by the way, are back.

02:15:18.000 Why aren't we seeing Hillary's lovers?

02:15:21.000 Excuse me.

02:15:21.000 Why aren't we seeing Hillary's lovers?

02:15:23.000 That's a good question.

02:15:24.000 Where's the cover-up on this?

02:15:27.000 So many issues that are suppressed on a daily basis.

02:15:31.000 So that's what I try to do every morning.

02:15:34.000 Incredible.

02:15:35.000 Well, it's amazing to have you here in Austin, Texas, and I tell you, you certainly know how to make an entrance.

02:15:41.000 I'm in a 70-second break, and I turn around, and there's Matt Drudge, just boom.

02:15:48.000 I tell you, I almost had a heart attack, a good one.

02:15:51.000 My cousin said he's never seen me look like that.

02:15:53.000 What was the word, Buckley, you used?

02:15:55.000 I know, it's flabbergasted.

02:15:58.000 I was flabbergasted.

02:15:59.000 You used the word flabbergasted.

02:16:01.000 Well, I tell you, this is like the biggest Christmas present early ever because I just admire true independence.

02:16:06.000 And I got to tell you, Matt, and you know this with your crew, and Congress knows this, we wouldn't have won some of these gun battles, some of these border battles, some of these energy battles.

02:16:15.000 And we've lost some, too.

02:16:16.000 But we would have lost so many of them if it wasn't for the focal point.

02:16:20.000 And even the White House and the Democrats admit, because I know you're saying you're nonpartisan, I mean, I would guess you're more of a libertarian.

02:16:25.000 Correct me if I'm wrong, you're just a freedom guy.

02:16:27.000 I can't be controlled.

02:16:29.000 I cannot be controlled.

02:16:31.000 There are no interests here but what I see as the world events.

02:16:36.000 Period.

02:16:37.000 That is the truth of the situation.

02:16:39.000 Well, they hate the fact That they can't control the agenda.

02:16:42.000 The Pentagon has briefings with the head of PSYOPS, as you know, saying, we've got to stop drudge changing the subject and showing when we're lying.

02:16:50.000 I mean, that's when you know, that's, that's crazy town.

02:16:53.000 When you get, what is it like?

02:16:54.000 Is it surreal to think back to something you started back in the early nineties has now grown into this?

02:16:59.000 Well, no, because it's been every day.

02:17:01.000 So it just like.

02:17:03.000 It's happened so organically.

02:17:05.000 It started with one reader.

02:17:06.000 I don't know who that one reader was, but it started with one reader.

02:17:09.000 I've never placed an ad anywhere.

02:17:12.000 Ever.

02:17:13.000 This has all been a true organic reader to reader to reader to reader.

02:17:18.000 Yes, I dabbled in the corporate with the Fox News Show and the Clear Channel Radio Show for nine years.

02:17:24.000 But even that, the website was on its own terms and remains so to this very minute.

02:17:31.000 Well, you've only gotten bigger since you stopped... Well, I don't know, because this is another thing.

02:17:36.000 The measurements that we have, this is another bogus thing.

02:17:39.000 Yesterday they released on the APA Wire Twitter followers.

02:17:44.000 Hillary is the queen of the Twitters, with 4.9 million.

02:17:47.000 They don't say how many are fake.

02:17:49.000 They don't say how many are drawing.

02:17:50.000 They admit the first ladies is like 80% fake. 1.00

02:17:52.000 Well, the AP did not do that, Alex.

02:17:54.000 So this whole thing, this whole socials, these socials.

02:17:58.000 You know, Beats 1 Music, which I'm obsessed with, which has been launched on Apple, which is probably one of the best things they've done since Steve Jobs died.

02:18:06.000 One radio station.

02:18:08.000 Interesting.

02:18:09.000 They don't know how many listeners they have.

02:18:11.000 I heard some streams they were down to 5,000 an hour.

02:18:14.000 This whole social media stuff is bogus.

02:18:17.000 Facebook, we have 2 billion users. 1.00

02:18:21.000 This is garbage. 1.00

02:18:22.000 This is designed to demoralize. 1.00

02:18:25.000 The individual.

02:18:26.000 I'll never have two billion followers.

02:18:29.000 The Internet is what you make of it.

02:18:31.000 It's the same battle as it was in the beginning.

02:18:32.000 I remember having this argument with Brit Hume once, live on C-SPAN. 0.98

02:18:36.000 He goes, oh, the Internet's all UFOs and all this crap. 0.88

02:18:40.000 And I said, no, the Internet is what you make of it. 0.94

02:18:41.000 In the beginning, they were dismissing the Internet.

02:18:44.000 They were poo-pooing it.

02:18:45.000 And isn't that good for us that for so long they were in arrogant denial?

02:18:49.000 And they seem like they still kind of are in arrogant denial.

02:18:52.000 No.

02:18:53.000 Now they make it over in their image.

02:18:55.000 Now it's these endless, monotonous tweets.

02:18:58.000 Meaningless!

02:19:00.000 Meaningless!

02:19:02.000 To me, it's just a lot of gnats.

02:19:05.000 A lot of confusion.

02:19:07.000 When the reality of the situation is, life on Earth has not changed.

02:19:11.000 We need facts.

02:19:13.000 We need events.

02:19:14.000 We need specifics on things.

02:19:16.000 Not all this confusion.

02:19:18.000 It's almost they've made the internet over in their image.

02:19:21.000 These corporations, and I think they're failing.

02:19:23.000 Skip the break.

02:19:24.000 Skip the break.

02:19:25.000 Oh, sorry, Matt.

02:19:26.000 Go ahead.

02:19:26.000 I had to interrupt.

02:19:27.000 You say you think they're failing?

02:19:28.000 I think they're failing.

02:19:30.000 To the point, this is a whole nother discussion on how sick are the American people right now.

02:19:35.000 I've been saying they could put Hillary Clinton's brain in a jar in the Oval Office and she'd be elected. 0.99

02:19:41.000 People are really sick.

02:19:42.000 I think you know this deep in your soul and this is why you get demoralized here on this very set.

02:19:46.000 Yeah, I shouldn't.

02:19:47.000 People are sick.

02:19:50.000 How they've got here, you've been on a wonderful arc over almost decades now, explaining why people are and have become so sick.

02:19:59.000 That being said, people are willing to be made over in the image of these corporations.

02:20:05.000 The reason there's so much anger online also is a newspaper like the Washington Post will leave a comment section.

02:20:11.000 They don't care what you're saying.

02:20:13.000 They don't care what you're thinking.

02:20:15.000 That's why you get this anger that, oh, I have to be, you know, I'm out here as a citizen and I'm operating in their playground.

02:20:24.000 Make your own playground.

02:20:26.000 The reason I'm here, Alex, is you've made your own.

02:20:29.000 Playground.

02:20:30.000 This is a figment of your imagination.

02:20:33.000 And the Drudge Report is mine.

02:20:35.000 It is a very simple thesis.

02:20:39.000 You are what you dream you are and become.

02:20:42.000 And I wish Americans would get out of the sickness and just become greater. 1.00

02:20:48.000 Well, that's profound.

02:20:49.000 I mean, because if we start creating our own maps, our own world, our own vision, then there's no way for these cultural tyrants to program us.

02:20:57.000 And that's why they're pushing so hard to get more outrageous.

02:21:01.000 I mean, is this the beginning of the end?

02:21:02.000 And to operate in their playgrounds.

02:21:06.000 So, you become famous on YouTube.

02:21:09.000 I'm not saying you. 0.95

02:21:09.000 That's ridiculous. 0.95

02:21:10.000 I'm saying the 13-year-old that just died that they're saying is the first YouTube star that died. 0.99

02:21:15.000 You're playing in Google's hell pit.

02:21:18.000 No, I agree, but I'm invaded almost.

02:21:20.000 Make your own place.

02:21:21.000 Make your own.

02:21:23.000 The Internet allows you to make your own dynamic, your own universe.

02:21:27.000 Why are you gravitating towards somebody else's universe?

02:21:32.000 And this is kind of, again, where dredge to me when I look at it right now is a correction to this group think that has...

02:21:40.000 Oh, I totally agree with what you're saying.

02:21:42.000 There's no difference from any of these websites.

02:21:43.000 You go up and down.

02:21:45.000 We talk about this.

02:21:46.000 What's the difference between the websites, between a Slate or a Salon or a BuzzFeed or a HuffPo?

02:21:53.000 What is the difference?

02:21:54.000 There isn't any.

02:21:56.000 And this is a travesty.

02:21:58.000 It's almost like...

02:21:59.000 It's almost like a weird conglomerate of groupthink that has developed in a dynamic era that should be vibrating.

02:22:07.000 It should be vibrating, it should be controversial.

02:22:10.000 But I guess it's fear.

02:22:13.000 Not everybody is cut from the same genetic background as you or I, Alex, of being brave and being able to stand up.

02:22:20.000 You're on the camera, I'm not.

02:22:21.000 You're more brave than I am.

02:22:23.000 So, this is the dynamic that I'm in.

02:22:25.000 I would just like to wake people up.

02:22:27.000 Stop operating in their playground.

02:22:31.000 Well, let me say this.

02:22:31.000 Stop it!

02:22:32.000 I totally agree with you.

02:22:34.000 I couldn't pay for the bandwidth to put all of our videos out on our own platforms.

02:22:34.000 I've tried.

02:22:38.000 Now we're doing that at PrisonPlanet.tv and the Nightly News and putting ourselves up on television to reach people because it's kind of like jacking into the Matrix going into their playground.

02:22:48.000 I try to then claw them over here to see what we're trying to do, what you're trying to do, but I totally agree with you.

02:22:54.000 The answer is for all of us to create our own systems, our own ideas, because vibrant, independent ideas will trump this corporate plastic borg, this brainwashing they're trying to push.

02:23:08.000 I mean, banning father and mother, banning the word husband and wife.

02:23:11.000 I mean, that's so cultic that if I'd have been told ten years ago they were going to ban words like that, I wouldn't have believed it.

02:23:18.000 They do it with straight faces.

02:23:20.000 I mean, has the left, and of course the controlled right as well, but have they gone collectively insane on a control freak bent, or is there a strategy?

02:23:29.000 I would also advise people to not waste their time on this.

02:23:33.000 I had a Supreme Court Justice tell me to my face, it's over for me.

02:23:38.000 He said, Matt, it's over for you.

02:23:39.000 They've got the votes now to enforce copyright law.

02:23:42.000 You're out of there.

02:23:43.000 They're going to make it so headlines you can't even use headlines.

02:23:46.000 To have a Supreme Court justice say that to my face, that it's over, they've got the votes, which means time is limited.

02:23:54.000 Time is not forever.

02:23:56.000 How many more moons and sunrises will you see in your life?

02:24:00.000 Uh, rise and fall.

02:24:02.000 There's not that many.

02:24:03.000 It's a small amount.

02:24:05.000 So for people to be saying with this attitude, oh, I'll get on with my life and my greatness sometime.

02:24:10.000 No.

02:24:11.000 No, you can't.

02:24:12.000 We're being enslaved now, and that's it.

02:24:14.000 Under the TPP, they admit you can't put a headline to the New York Times.

02:24:19.000 You're sending massive traffic to them.

02:24:21.000 They're claiming you're taking their words.

02:24:24.000 This is insane.

02:24:25.000 And you had the Justice Stephen Breyer said we need to look at a global law.

02:24:28.000 Now, remember just recently... Getting it lined up with it.

02:24:31.000 So, they're getting ready for these decisions to come.

02:24:33.000 You thought Obamacare was shocking.

02:24:35.000 You thought some of these other decisions were shocking.

02:24:37.000 Wait until these copyright laws work their way up and the Supreme Court decides you cannot have a website with news headlines linking across the board.

02:24:49.000 Then that will end for me.

02:24:50.000 Fine.

02:24:51.000 I've had a hell of a run.

02:24:52.000 It's 20 years next year, or 20 years about now.

02:24:55.000 Hell of a run!

02:24:56.000 I couldn't have gone any further.

02:24:58.000 I feel completely I have gone as far out of the galaxy as I can on this.

02:25:03.000 I still want to stay out here, but I've gone pretty damn far for what one individual can do in this culture.

02:25:09.000 But I'm talking about the future.

02:25:11.000 So I don't know why they've been successful in pushing everybody into these little ghettos. 0.99

02:25:17.000 of these Facebooks and these tweets and these Instagrams, these Instas.

02:25:22.000 This is ghetto.

02:25:24.000 This is corporate.

02:25:24.000 This is ghetto.

02:25:26.000 They're taking your energy.

02:25:28.000 They're taking your energy and you're getting nothing in return.

02:25:31.000 They're dumbing the language down.

02:25:31.000 Nothing.

02:25:33.000 Twitter's designed to reduce the language directly out of 1984.

02:25:36.000 It's Ingsoc. 0.88

02:25:38.000 Right, ultimately it's boring and the kids are always off to something new, except for the something new is owned by the same freaking company or financed by the same banking system.

02:25:48.000 So I'm here to say, and this is the reason why I came to see you Alex, you are one of the very few who are operating under this theory to be an independent American.

02:26:00.000 In a big way.

02:26:01.000 If your calling is media, fine.

02:26:04.000 If your calling is sports, whatever it is.

02:26:06.000 But you've got to be the greatest you can be.

02:26:09.000 Now.

02:26:10.000 Now.

02:26:11.000 Before this country is so completely fractured.

02:26:13.000 And we're left with Hillary's brain in the Oval Office in a jar.

02:26:18.000 Because that's what we're getting. 1.00

02:26:19.000 She's old and she's sick. 1.00

02:26:21.000 She's not a contender.

02:26:23.000 They're making her a contender with these propped up Saturday Night Live things. 1.00

02:26:27.000 It's like a head on a stick.

02:26:29.000 And then on the Today Show with the Gunthery, a head on a stick. 0.93

02:26:33.000 She is not a viable, vibrant leader for this country of 300, including the illegals, 380 million Americans.

02:26:42.000 So the media is trying to put us to sleep.

02:26:46.000 You're not letting them, Alex.

02:26:47.000 Let me answer this question, Matt.

02:26:49.000 Is the establishment, which we know is diverse, but there's different conglomerates, is it panicking?

02:26:54.000 Is it trying to push everything through right now because it knows people are waking up?

02:26:58.000 Or is it just completely arrogant and thinks it's invincible?

02:27:02.000 It's trying to consolidate control, yes, and there is a sense of panic about it.

02:27:07.000 You look at a Telemundo or a Univision, they're kind of panicked.

02:27:11.000 You look at some of these interviews that are happening this election cycle where Trump comes along Says a few things, just a few things, and soars to the top of the list.

02:27:22.000 That's profound.

02:27:23.000 Imagine if we actually had a good selection of candidates who were saying a lot, and I know Cruz and Rand and all the rest.

02:27:30.000 However, you've got to be dynamic in this atmosphere, and it's a media country.

02:27:34.000 You've got to be dynamic in media.

02:27:36.000 That's the only thing that's going to work.

02:27:38.000 So I am left with thinking there's not a lot of time To be your greatest self, especially online.

02:27:46.000 Because I don't, if it continues to get consolidated to this degree, and then we're moving into the robots, which you're so profound on, and it's going to get really ugly, really fast.

02:27:57.000 There's already automated news sites, Google News, hello anybody. 0.98

02:28:01.000 They actually, the idiots reading that crap, think there is actually a human there. 0.99

02:28:05.000 There is no human there. 1.00

02:28:07.000 You are being programmed to being automated, even up to your news.

02:28:12.000 And Apple News?

02:28:13.000 I don't know what that's about.

02:28:14.000 That was also creepy.

02:28:16.000 A same corporate glaze over everything.

02:28:20.000 I don't see the world that way.

02:28:21.000 I live in a world that's free, colorful, vibrant, takes chances, bold, stands up to power.

02:28:27.000 And that's where I've made my success.

02:28:30.000 Well, very eloquently said, I mean really, if we don't affect the battle space, if we don't get involved in free speech now, that's all you the listeners, all the Drudge fans, fans of freedom, no matter what color you are, no matter what political band, we're going to lose everything. 0.96

02:28:45.000 We know what totalitarian looks like, we know what oppression looks like, we know what the dumb culture of totalitarianism smells like. 0.96

02:28:53.000 This is it. 0.97

02:28:54.000 It's happening now, and the future of the world is being decided.

02:28:58.000 So get out there, make your own sites, take action.

02:29:01.000 Because Matt, you say you'll just go away if they do this.

02:29:03.000 We all know we're going to fight it.

02:29:04.000 We know they can't enforce it.

02:29:06.000 Because if they can say that you can't even put a link up to a news site...

02:29:09.000 Then that ends free speech and basic communication.

02:29:12.000 I mean, I know they got the Democrats out openly saying, we need to bring in the Fairness Doctrine to the Internet because of Matt Drudge, because you quote, affect elections.

02:29:20.000 Well, you're an American citizen that pays taxes and you're allowed to be pro-gun.

02:29:24.000 Well, but if they get enough sick people to elect it, the demographics will take care of themselves.

02:29:29.000 We had a story this morning that they're finally releasing an artist in Cuba who painted Raul and Fidel as a pig, jailed without trial.

02:29:39.000 For 18 months.

02:29:40.000 Look at Germany, where they're arresting people that criticize open borders.

02:29:43.000 Look, you've been- So it's already happening.

02:29:45.000 I'm just warning this country that, yes, don't get into this false sense that you are an individual when you're on Facebook.

02:29:53.000 No, you're not.

02:29:55.000 You're a pawn in their scheme.

02:29:57.000 Stay there.

02:29:58.000 We gotta come right back for a few more minutes and say bye.

02:29:59.000 This is incredible.

02:30:01.000 The Empire's on the run.

02:30:03.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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02:30:18.000 Coons said in addition to authorizing Obama's unconstitutional authorization for use of military force, Congress must levy a new tax on Americans to pay for military action against IS.

02:30:30.000 The U.S.

02:30:30.000 has spent more than $5 billion on the war against IS since August 2014.

02:30:36.000 The cost is expected to rise considerably Now that the Obama administration has said it will step up the campaign to wipe out the group.

02:30:43.000 Despite spending billions, the air campaign has failed to weaken the Islamic State, according to intelligence officials.

02:30:49.000 On Monday, Representative Peter King, a New York Republican who serves as the Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, said that after 16 months of airstrikes by the U.S., it's had really minimal impact on ISIS.

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02:33:21.000 It's Alex Jones.

02:33:23.000 It's the time of the season.

02:33:29.000 When love runs high.

02:33:31.000 In this time, give it to me easy.

02:33:38.000 Well, I tell you, a lot of energy entered the building.

02:33:41.000 There's already a lot of energy in this building.

02:33:43.000 A lot of smiles with Matt Drudge here.

02:33:45.000 A don, I guess, went to the door.

02:33:49.000 And we say don't let strangers in, but it was no stranger.

02:33:51.000 Matt Drudge here in studio with us.

02:33:55.000 And characteristically, very...

02:33:58.000 Kind of like Peter Pan, hard to catch, hard to find, moves quick.

02:34:01.000 He is right over there in the dark with a handheld microphone.

02:34:05.000 Of course, the conspiracy theories will begin.

02:34:07.000 This isn't really Matt Drudge, but people can tell it is Matt Drudge.

02:34:10.000 I've seen a lot of his speeches, heard him pop in on shows here and there.

02:34:13.000 And it's always eloquent, always thought-provoking.

02:34:15.000 This is particularly thought-provoking and will be a big newsmaker.

02:34:19.000 They will attempt to control reality and say, how dare Matt Drudge hang out with that heretic Alex Jones? 1.00

02:34:25.000 And we're always hearing over the last six, seven years that Matt Drudge is over, Matt Drudge doesn't exist.

02:34:30.000 But then they have to admit Matt Drudge is bigger than ever.

02:34:32.000 So this attempt to control reality or control who talks to who By these totalitarians that masquerade as liberals, I don't think is working.

02:34:41.000 And now with Boehner being forced out, I think it shows the rumblings of the Tea Party beneath the surface.

02:34:46.000 So, Matt, before you leave us, and I really appreciate your time... Oh, and by the way, the presidential candidates, that's exactly what you're saying, the rumblings.

02:34:55.000 Look at anybody who has any form of success in the polls is because they rumble.

02:35:01.000 Uh, where it's going to end up, I don't know.

02:35:03.000 I'm very pessimistic.

02:35:05.000 I'm very pessimistic on this race because I'm just not so sure it's not going to end up with the dreaded brain in the jar in the Oval Office, once known as Hillary Clinton, who is hypothyroid. 0.82

02:35:17.000 Anybody who is 70 years old who's hypothyroid, you do not elect president. 1.00

02:35:21.000 Ladies and gentlemen, you don't do it.

02:35:24.000 Now they'll say, well, it has to be who her VP is, whether it's the Castro from San Antonio or the other Castro from San Antonio or the other Castro from San Antonio, whoever it's going to be.

02:35:34.000 I'm just shaking now after seeing NBC giving her endless hours of airtime.

02:35:41.000 Over the past 72 hours that Hillary's back, and she's back for real.

02:35:46.000 Now what that means to you or me, what it means to me, I've got a long history with these people.

02:35:50.000 They're ugly, they play dirty, they sued me for $30 million last time around, with the approval of the President, announced by the Press Secretary of the White House, a civil action.

02:36:01.000 These people, and they didn't have the NSA then, they had Echelon, they had all these other things you were talking about even then.

02:36:07.000 Hillary Clinton with the NSA?

02:36:10.000 Good luck if you dissent.

02:36:12.000 Good luck if you dissent.

02:36:14.000 Snowden, I'll switch places with you. 1.00

02:36:16.000 You can come over here and rot in hell, because that's what it's going to be. 0.99

02:36:20.000 So I'm very concerned with the lay of the land, but the rumblings you're talking about That we've seen a Trump. 0.99

02:36:26.000 That we've seen a Carly.

02:36:28.000 Do we see a Sanders?

02:36:29.000 Yeah, maybe.

02:36:30.000 Also old.

02:36:32.000 Old!

02:36:33.000 Can the Democrats find anybody under the age of 70?

02:36:36.000 What is this oldness in a vibrant country that needs to go forward to a new century?

02:36:41.000 So I don't know.

02:36:42.000 I'm hoping for surprises.

02:36:44.000 I'm hoping for some jolts.

02:36:46.000 We'll have to see.

02:36:48.000 On a few other subjects, and I appreciate your time, I'll quit bugging you.

02:36:53.000 There's so much going on in the world.

02:36:55.000 Obama now is talking about, well, Australia had a good plan, we may have to do that.

02:36:59.000 That's clearly talking about gun confiscation.

02:37:01.000 Now Hillary's doing it. 1.00

02:37:02.000 CNN has pundits just saying, let's just take them.

02:37:05.000 Do these people realize that this is the line in the sand at the Alamo?

02:37:09.000 If they really come out in a frontal assault on guns, it means I think they're trying to start a civil war.

02:37:15.000 It just seems like insanity.

02:37:16.000 I mean, they may think that they're Stalin or something.

02:37:20.000 Well, because they're all armed themselves, or they all have that security around them themselves.

02:37:26.000 They don't have to worry about it.

02:37:28.000 I challenge Hillary, take away your Secret Service. 1.00

02:37:32.000 Take it away now!

02:37:34.000 Take away your Secret Service!

02:37:35.000 Dismiss them! 0.94

02:37:36.000 Have no security around you!

02:37:38.000 Have no guns around you, Hillary! 1.00

02:37:40.000 I dare you!

02:37:41.000 I dare you!

02:37:42.000 Obama, same thing!

02:37:44.000 Drop your guns, Obama!

02:37:46.000 Take your Secret Service away, Obama!

02:37:48.000 Take it all away.

02:37:50.000 Leave the White House unguarded, Obama.

02:37:52.000 Let everybody know there's no guns on the White House grounds, Obama.

02:37:55.000 You know what would happen in 30 seconds?

02:37:58.000 Both of those people would no longer be on planet Earth.

02:38:01.000 So they're asking us to drop our guns and to drop our security measures, or what?

02:38:08.000 So this thing is very real, and I don't see how it's being taken seriously, except for the sick voter.

02:38:15.000 You can't underestimate the sickness of the American people right now. 0.83

02:38:18.000 They're really sick. 0.94

02:38:19.000 And that's to me, I'm more angry at the sick Americans than I am at Obama. 1.00

02:38:23.000 Or Hillary. 1.00

02:38:24.000 I'm really angry at the sick Americans. 1.00

02:38:26.000 Matt Drudge, I used to listen to your radio show almost every Sunday, but I gotta tell ya, you are even more on fire than you were then.

02:38:33.000 And I know you're smart, you know, not to be, you know, you know, too available because distance makes the heart grow fond.

02:38:39.000 And I tell you, but it would be great if even once a week you did like an hour podcast or something, or maybe once a month with these thoughts.

02:38:47.000 Because let me tell you, this is some really good radio and I'm enjoying it and I know the audience is.

02:38:52.000 I mean, Matt Drudge is kind of co-hosting the Alex Jones Show right now.

02:38:55.000 This is crazy.

02:38:56.000 Maybe I'll join Facebook.

02:38:59.000 Oh yeah, don't do that.

02:39:01.000 No, I can't.

02:39:02.000 I realize that just my personality is that I've got to stay focused.

02:39:07.000 I can't be too distracted.

02:39:09.000 No, your advice to me was right, you know, like a year ago, that don't try to do too much.

02:39:13.000 I mean, you're right.

02:39:13.000 Paul Joseph Watson, I told him, watch out for this.

02:39:17.000 You know, it's a larger topic, but at my height of media availability, I was doing the website The TV show and the radio show at the same time, as you are doing now.

02:39:30.000 As you are doing now.

02:39:32.000 Mine was with the corporations, Clear Channel, News Corp, and then the Drudge Report.

02:39:37.000 But still, I felt just myself, I felt it was just more powerful to go to the web, plus not to necessarily be playing in their playground.

02:39:48.000 Because the power of the individual, as you represent sitting there right now, is powerful.

02:39:54.000 To the heart.

02:39:55.000 I said to Paul Joseph Watson when I saw him in London, which you just referred to a year ago, you're a romantic figure, Alex, in Americana.

02:40:02.000 It's romantic what you do here every day.

02:40:05.000 It just is.

02:40:05.000 This is romance.

02:40:07.000 Because you're an American standing up, tough, facing these headwinds.

02:40:12.000 Wow, are they blowing.

02:40:13.000 But you're there.

02:40:14.000 And you're not alone.

02:40:16.000 Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin.

02:40:19.000 There's a lot of people on the airwaves who are as brave.

02:40:22.000 They are brave.

02:40:23.000 And they are living it.

02:40:24.000 I've met them all.

02:40:25.000 I'm friends with them all.

02:40:26.000 They are Also, operating against the grain in an America that needs to go back to that. 0.84

02:40:35.000 Well, the system's tried to put some of them in jail.

02:40:37.000 I mean, I know a lot of those folks don't talk about the stuff that goes on behind the scenes.

02:40:40.000 I don't either, but, you know, these people play hardball, and some folks can say they're libertarians.

02:40:45.000 Well, those folks don't sound libertarian enough to me.

02:40:47.000 It doesn't matter.

02:40:48.000 The globalists, the Democrats, the collectivists hate anybody who's conservative, anybody who believes in the individual. 0.66

02:40:55.000 And the fact is, those people promote individualism, nationalism, and that's why they've got to be eradicated.

02:41:01.000 What a horrible world if the system is successful.

02:41:03.000 Matt Drudge, in your gut, in your heart, do you think that humanity is going to be successful and make it the next hundred years?

02:41:10.000 Oh, the hundred years?

02:41:12.000 Well, of course, unless Mother Nature decides.

02:41:15.000 You know, I'm a big fan of letting Mother Nature decide some of this, too.

02:41:18.000 You know, we can't control a lot of this.

02:41:20.000 There is a law to the universe.

02:41:23.000 There just is.

02:41:24.000 There's just a lot to the universe.

02:41:25.000 We could have the San Andreas ripped tonight.

02:41:28.000 You had nothing to do with that.

02:41:29.000 We could have had that super hurricane that, look what they did to South Carolina, two or three hundred miles offshore.

02:41:35.000 Imagine if a Category 5 eyewall went right up the Chesapeake Bay.

02:41:40.000 They could say, well, mankind did that.

02:41:41.000 No.

02:41:42.000 Mother Nature decides.

02:41:43.000 So will we survive?

02:41:44.000 I'm sure we will.

02:41:45.000 What, will we be, uh, Not allowed to speak as we are today?

02:41:50.000 Well, we'll have it documented that we were allowed to speak that way once.

02:41:54.000 So, I... I don't know.

02:41:56.000 Am I optimistic?

02:41:57.000 For myself, personally, yes.

02:41:58.000 I'm strong.

02:41:59.000 There's not much they can do.

02:42:00.000 They could laser beam me.

02:42:01.000 They could drone me. 0.97

02:42:02.000 They can plutonium me.

02:42:04.000 They could do whatever they wanted, but spiritually, I'm set.

02:42:07.000 I've already got it.

02:42:08.000 So they can't do much.

02:42:10.000 I just wish there was more media that was trailblazing and independent.

02:42:16.000 And this to me is a big danger right now in this setup is you've got these corporations like the New York Times and the Amazon now with the Washington Post and Time Warner and all of them seem to be the same.

02:42:31.000 This is what's frightening.

02:42:32.000 And there's so much news in the course of the day.

02:42:35.000 And the reason I think the Drudge Report is interesting every morning is it's not exactly the same as you would see elsewhere.

02:42:44.000 And that's because I'm not involved with other people.

02:42:47.000 I'm looking at the world through my eyes and that's what you're seeing with bravery and with the ability to do it because the ability to do it what you've created here with one listener one day that went to 10 listeners that went to 50 to now your millions Was organically grown, and that's kind of how Earth proceeds.

02:43:07.000 And it usually takes time, you're absolutely right.

02:43:10.000 Looking at the open announcements by the Pope for world government, carbon taxes, looking for Obama announcing similar things, they've gone from denying this planetary system is being set up to now admitting it.

02:43:22.000 We've got all these key meetings, TPP being agreed on just a few days ago.

02:43:28.000 How is that affecting the people that were brainwashed and told none of this was happening?

02:43:33.000 How are they going to respond now when all of this starts coming to fruition?

02:43:38.000 I've been traveling a lot and I'm seeing a lot of desperation everywhere.

02:43:41.000 A lot of sad desperation.

02:43:43.000 I was just in an airport and even down to this, a woman selling Southwest Airlines credit cards, standing like a robot. 1.00

02:43:50.000 Have you signed up yet?

02:43:51.000 Are you a member of the club?

02:43:53.000 It was tragic.

02:43:54.000 This is a mature woman with a beautiful face and life, and I'm like, how did she get there?

02:43:59.000 What has happened to this culture that she's now standing as a robot like this?

02:44:02.000 They are sucking our ability to make an income that is compatible with what you need to.

02:44:09.000 So I'm getting a little frightened as I travel.

02:44:12.000 On the other side of it, when I go to New York and I see some of the billionaires, it's the other side!

02:44:17.000 Endless!

02:44:19.000 You know, they're fighting over pieces of artwork.

02:44:22.000 It's gotten to the point where the have and the have-nots here is breaking.

02:44:27.000 And it's the billionaires that are mainly funding the whole leftist redistribution movement because they end up getting the money in corporate welfare and insider deals.

02:44:34.000 It's so sick.

02:44:36.000 I watched a great film.

02:44:37.000 I don't know if you've seen it yet, but it's The Best of Enemies about Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley.

02:44:42.000 Have you seen that yet?

02:44:43.000 You've got to see it.

02:44:43.000 No.

02:44:46.000 It shows Gore Vidal arguing saying the answer is... Oh, and by the way, why are we not allowed to have a Gore Vidal-William Buckley anymore in the media scene?

02:44:53.000 Do you see who they hire?

02:44:54.000 Do you see who's hired for the shows?

02:44:57.000 How dull they are?

02:44:58.000 Yes. 0.97

02:44:59.000 Dull as dishwater.

02:44:59.000 Dull!

02:45:00.000 They want you to tune out of politics and into entertainment. 0.99

02:45:02.000 Yes, they make it.

02:45:03.000 Where are the flamboyant characters?

02:45:06.000 This is what America desperately needs right now.

02:45:09.000 Flamboyant intellectual characters who can cut different ways.

02:45:14.000 And that's just what I'm missing.

02:45:15.000 I've been fortunate enough to meet some of the greats of this generation, and I've got to tell you, they are there.

02:45:21.000 It's just they are suppressed and hidden, and they're not hired the way Gore Vidal and Buckley were back a previous generation.

02:45:27.000 They were not afraid of ideas.

02:45:29.000 This generation is frightened of ideas, or at least it's being suppressed.

02:45:34.000 Let's throw in in the few minutes we have left.

02:45:36.000 We're about to go to break, and I know you've given us more time than you even said you would.

02:45:39.000 Matt Drudge is our guest, DrudgeReport.com, obviously in studio here in Austin, Texas, visiting a surprise visit, one of the best ever.

02:45:45.000 That's better than the surprise birthday parties I've had.

02:45:49.000 Shifting gears, I don't think that it's Putin's this great angel or this wonderful perfect person, but our foreign policy is so corrupt, so deceptive, it makes him look good, and nobody's going to back Al-Qaeda.

02:46:00.000 I talked about this last Thursday and Friday, and I'll find the article and we'll put it in this video later and put it out as a report, but it was Reuters reporting that the White House is angry that these airstrikes by the Russians have hit the moderates, al-Nusra, which is Al-Qaeda in Syria.

02:46:18.000 And then it just went on, and they're telling him to stop doing it, and he didn't hit ISIS.

02:46:24.000 But then Putin pointed out, no, that's the bosses of ISIS, that's just their fighters.

02:46:28.000 It's the same group, which is true.

02:46:29.000 But it's Twilight Zone.

02:46:31.000 I can't even believe I'm reading Reuters, who has writers with a straight face, That we'll just sit there and write articles about how Al-Qaeda is moderate and not bad, and then we criticize Russia for bombing them when they're attacking Russian interest.

02:46:45.000 It's just so bizarre.

02:46:48.000 It seems like that Karl Rove quote where he said, we control reality.

02:46:52.000 I don't think Obama and these guys really control reality.

02:46:54.000 And now we've got John McCain saying, let's go ahead and end Zbigniew Brzezinski and have war with Russia.

02:47:00.000 Let's go ahead and attack the Russian aircraft. 0.97

02:47:02.000 I mean, it's crazy town. 0.95

02:47:04.000 What do you say to that?

02:47:05.000 Well, I'll say this.

02:47:06.000 We never even heard of ISIS until recently, and I remember when that name first started coming up.

02:47:11.000 Do you know it was designed to be confused with Daryl Issa?

02:47:14.000 No, I didn't know that.

02:47:15.000 Do you know that's what it was?

02:47:17.000 Because Daryl Issa was the enemy at the time of this administration.

02:47:20.000 You know, there would have been a time Obama could have been impeached.

02:47:23.000 And I'm thinking of the IRS scandal, most likely.

02:47:25.000 That would have been the one.

02:47:26.000 You get the depositions going, you get the president under oath, you follow the chain, Obama most likely would have been impeached.

02:47:34.000 Boehner decided, we're not going there, we're not going to have those cities burn.

02:47:38.000 We're not going to do it.

02:47:39.000 We're not going to impeach Obama.

02:47:42.000 So, I felt Daryl Issa, that's his name, right?

02:47:45.000 Issa, Daryl Issa.

02:47:49.000 I think they came up with the name ISIS to be confused with Daryl Issa.

02:47:55.000 I'm really being honest with you.

02:47:57.000 I remember when the first time Christiane Amanpour sputtered out this word ISIS.

02:48:03.000 Where did she get that one? 0.66

02:48:05.000 You know, these words are creative.

02:48:07.000 These events are creative.

02:48:08.000 Now we act like, oh, ISIS has been around for 20, 30 years.

02:48:11.000 Says who? 0.65

02:48:12.000 It's been around a year and a half.

02:48:13.000 Designed to confuse.

02:48:13.000 Yeah.

02:48:16.000 And then the president going, it's not even ISIS, it's ISIL.

02:48:19.000 Or ice.

02:48:20.000 Or ISIL.

02:48:21.000 Or is.

02:48:23.000 This is Dr. Seuss!

02:48:24.000 This is madness!

02:48:25.000 I'm glad you're able to follow any of it, because when I sit down and look at the news, I'm not able to follow the bouncing ball.

02:48:31.000 Is Putin here?

02:48:32.000 Is Obama here?

02:48:33.000 Where does this one go?

02:48:34.000 I can't follow.

02:48:36.000 Can you put the pieces together?

02:48:37.000 I'm glad you can, because I can't.

02:48:40.000 Wow, well we're going to break here in about a minute and a half, and then I'm going to come back and play a special report.

02:48:44.000 They're going to go into the fourth hour, being hosted by one of our co-hosts today.

02:48:47.000 But Matt, in the two minutes we've got left, it's amazing to have you here.

02:48:51.000 What else do you think is front and center in the universe?

02:48:53.000 In the last two minutes here, what do you want to say to the audience and to the dinosaur media that is going to gleefully try to edit this and chop this up, and I guess use it for their funeral pyre?

02:49:04.000 Well, they're welcome to again.

02:49:06.000 They've got no control over the situation.

02:49:08.000 None.

02:49:09.000 No control over me.

02:49:09.000 No control.

02:49:10.000 Sorry.

02:49:11.000 Zero.

02:49:13.000 I wanted to congratulate you.

02:49:14.000 You are one of the... and people don't really talk about this.

02:49:16.000 You are one of the first to stream 24 hours a day.

02:49:20.000 And I think the reason I was drawn into InfoWars was because of the streaming.

02:49:26.000 This is a profound break that you did to allow the audience to hear you at any time, to make it available at any time, from anywhere, looping, looping, looping, until the next broadcast.

02:49:38.000 This is a profound thing you did.

02:49:40.000 I don't think that's recognized enough in the industry.

02:49:42.000 I'm just talking shop talk here for a second.

02:49:44.000 That was big.

02:49:47.000 Because what you're seeing with the AM dial now, and I'm not besmirching any stations that are carrying this right now, but some of these ratings are frightening.

02:49:54.000 Some of these ratings in these major cities are frightening.

02:49:56.000 I'm talking about half the listeners, generally overall, for every talk host.

02:50:02.000 Some of them are down a half, a half in one year.

02:50:06.000 Something is going on.

02:50:07.000 But you broke through with this 24-hour looping, always available, On my happiest nights, I'm sitting here and I'm listening to you from wherever I am in the world.

02:50:19.000 Looping.

02:50:20.000 Getting it, getting it, getting it.

02:50:21.000 And the guests.

02:50:23.000 This is a profound shift.

02:50:24.000 Available anytime, from anywhere.

02:50:26.000 That was you, Alex.

02:50:27.000 That was a big one.

02:50:28.000 That was like 12 years ago.

02:50:29.000 I said, why don't we just send the stream out once, and then wait for a podcast to come up before they even called it podcast, which is an MP3.

02:50:37.000 So organically again.

02:50:39.000 Yet again, another organically grown decision that changed the media landscape.

02:50:43.000 Well sure, and I said, why not just have, I don't want to just have, because I was one of the first, people were doing this 20 years ago, Limbaugh was probably the first, with a little, you know, pod cam, took a photo every minute or something.

02:50:53.000 I said, why don't we just put cameras in here so I can show people articles, show them photos, show them books, and even show them video clips, and then we'll start streaming it.

02:51:02.000 And by the way, Limbaugh was genius for doing that because he bypassed Broadcast.

02:51:07.000 He didn't have to hook up with the Fox or CNN to show him in real time.

02:51:10.000 He was able to bypass that.

02:51:12.000 And I think there was some cams for radio shows before that.

02:51:15.000 Sure.

02:51:15.000 But he did it on the larger scale.

02:51:16.000 But what you did by breaking the mold, by breaking the mold, whatever you said that day, like, why don't we loop it?

02:51:23.000 I can't tell you how that's changed.

02:51:25.000 I would say the majority of your listeners are, have, and will discover you through the looping and the broadcast, because now we can drive around and listen to you without the streaming, even though it seems like the streaming is where things are going.

02:51:38.000 I gotta say, when you broke the egg there, When you cracked the egg, that was a big one.

02:51:43.000 That was a Stanley Kubrick moment of the bone going up.

02:51:46.000 What you did with that one.

02:51:47.000 So that was a big one.

02:51:48.000 Well, I don't think it's as big as the bones you've been throwing up that turned into the spaceships, but I tell you, it's amazing to just have the diverse audience that tunes in to hear me babble, speak of the devil, like people like Stanley Kubrick's daughter and folks that have popped up too, and you're like, you check it out, and this is really Stanley Kubrick's daughter that helped make some of his films.

02:52:03.000 It just blows your mind.

02:52:04.000 Oh, and by the way, if Stanley Kubrick was alive, can you imagine?

02:52:07.000 Can you imagine where he would have gone?

02:52:09.000 He would have done some great work.

02:52:10.000 Oh.

02:52:10.000 We're missing the Hollywood push, too.

02:52:12.000 Where's the greatness coming out of Hollywood?

02:52:14.000 They want it dumbed down.

02:52:15.000 I've talked to top Hollywood... Enough of the Martian crap. 1.00

02:52:18.000 Tell us something big and real and profound, as Kubrick would have. 0.99

02:52:18.000 Tell us something. 0.99

02:52:21.000 On a human level.

02:52:22.000 On a human level.

02:52:23.000 Well, I'm not allowed to say what I was told about Kubrick, but let me say, it was obvious from his films, he would be on board with us.

02:52:30.000 You know, Spielberg keeps going back to World War II.

02:52:33.000 I mean, enough already.

02:52:34.000 Let's get focused.

02:52:36.000 I look at a P.T.

02:52:37.000 Anderson, and I don't know, it's kind of gone into a marijuana cloud for me.

02:52:41.000 Where are the artists who are challenging this generation like Kubrick did?

02:52:45.000 So, that's another topic separately.

02:52:46.000 Well, we're going to break in one minute.

02:52:48.000 We're going to air John Bowne's report, come back, and who's hosting the fourth hour today?

02:52:53.000 Thunderstruck that David Knight's got a bunch coming up, and obviously we need to get clips of this epic interview, play those, and put those out on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:53:03.000 Matt, how fast do you think, here's what's crazy, five years ago I cared if mainstream media wrote stories against us, or I cared if I was on Nightline or something, you've been in more big stuff than I have.

02:53:12.000 Now it doesn't even do anything when I'm on those shows.

02:53:15.000 That's why I know that they don't mean anything, and so we should end with this.

02:53:19.000 You were the guy Who tweeted, at least from what I saw, at Piers Morgan three years ago, or two and a half years ago, to say, have Alex Jones on, debate him.

02:53:29.000 Matchmaker.

02:53:29.000 Yeah, behind the scenes, people don't know this about me, I'm a matchmaker behind the scenes.

02:53:34.000 That I've had the ability to make some deals happen and do some things behind the scenes.

02:53:38.000 Now, I've never met Piers Morgan, but I do believe that tweet that day did lead to that.

02:53:42.000 Well, no, they told me in his office, they said, what do you think of Matt Drudge's idea, because they got my cell phone number and called me, and CNN had it, and I said... Which ended up being the most dramatic moment on CNN in a generation.

02:53:51.000 They admit that.

02:53:53.000 They have votes and say that.

02:53:54.000 That's why they need to hire people away from 6th Avenue just to look at the scene.

02:53:58.000 I remember once saying to Charlie Rose, why don't you have more conservatives on it?

02:54:02.000 And he says, who?

02:54:03.000 And, you know, there's a whole list of them.

02:54:06.000 Why are they limiting themselves?

02:54:07.000 Because you would say it's a, you know, it's a contrived plan to limit.

02:54:12.000 But I still think to make provocative programming, you've got to have different points of view, a la the Buckley and Vidal, Gore Vidal.

02:54:20.000 Where is that in this culture?

02:54:22.000 It's missing.

02:54:23.000 I get it from InfoWars.

02:54:25.000 I get it from other places too, mainly talk radio.

02:54:27.000 Talk radio seems to be the driving force of this culture, at least in spoken word.

02:54:32.000 I'm not getting it from television that much.

02:54:34.000 I'm just not.

02:54:36.000 Where are the intriguing television shows?

02:54:38.000 I mean, you could say Homeland, you can say some of these others.

02:54:41.000 Okay, yes.

02:54:42.000 But where are the real dynamic things that are pushing?

02:54:45.000 Well, let's expand on that.

02:54:47.000 Piers Morgan had a ratings boost of about 30-40% for two weeks after that.

02:54:51.000 Then it went down, steadily declined, and they got rid of him.

02:54:55.000 CNN knows that if they Well, it all depends if the sick Americans get un-sick.

02:54:59.000 That's all.

02:55:00.000 Tens of millions would tune in to watch it.

02:55:01.000 They know that.

02:55:02.000 They have to control the narrative because it's an agenda, even if it's self-defeating and destroying them.

02:55:07.000 So where do you think that ends up going, them attempting to censor us?

02:55:11.000 Well, it all depends if the sick Americans get unsick. 0.84

02:55:15.000 That's all.

02:55:16.000 That's all you just have to do because if you get well, if you get well, you're not that interested in what Anderson Cooper is saying about things.

02:55:24.000 You're just not, I'm sorry.

02:55:25.000 I don't mean to be insulting.

02:55:27.000 If you're sick, you find comfort in that.

02:55:31.000 What are your final words?

02:55:32.000 What are your final words?

02:55:34.000 These are the last words ever spoken on earth?

02:55:36.000 These are the final words?

02:55:37.000 Yes, George Washington says tis well.

02:55:40.000 Well, again, I just wanted to come to congratulate you from building organically from the ground up.

02:55:45.000 Thank you.

02:55:47.000 A media that is not only American, it's just Western.

02:55:49.000 It's not even Western, it's just freedom.

02:55:51.000 I can imagine somebody right now listening to us who's sitting in a prison cell somewhere, somewhere awful, thinking about freedom.

02:55:59.000 So, congratulations to you.

02:56:00.000 I have more power to you.

02:56:01.000 Take care of yourself.

02:56:03.000 Because, you know, you're the vehicle, too.

02:56:05.000 Well, I'm speechless, Matt Drudge.

02:56:07.000 I can't go on.

02:56:08.000 Sorry to the callers.

02:56:09.000 David Knight's coming up.

02:56:10.000 I'll be back tomorrow, Lord willing, 11 a.m.

02:56:12.000 to 2 p.m.

02:56:12.000 Central.

02:56:13.000 A fourth hour coming up as we move into the Overdrive Show and Nightly News tonight at 7.

02:56:18.000 But we're going to go ahead and go to this John Bowne report and then come back with the fourth hour.

02:56:22.000 Infowars.com forward slash show to find all that.

02:56:24.000 Matt Drudge is here in studio.

02:56:26.000 I'm going to give him the tour now.

02:56:27.000 That was an amazing 45 minutes.

02:56:27.000 Thank you, Matt.

02:56:29.000 Here's the report.

02:56:31.000 There's been another mass shooting in America.

02:56:35.000 This time in a community college in Oregon.

02:56:40.000 That means there are more American families, moms, dads, children, whose lives have been changed forever.

02:56:50.000 That means there's another community stunned with grief.

02:56:54.000 And communities across the country forced to relieve their own anguish and parents across the country who are scared because they know it might have been their families or their children.

02:57:10.000 We've talked about this after Columbine and Blacksburg, after Tucson, after Newtown, after Aurora, after Charleston.

02:57:19.000 It cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict Harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun.

02:57:28.000 More families victimized.

02:57:29.000 More average citizens President Obama may or may not personally offer his condolences to because he is too busy pleading his case to eliminate our constitutional Second Amendment right to protect ourselves and our communities.

02:57:42.000 Pew Research's July 2014 poll, The Demographics and Politics of Gun Owning Households, found that about 6 in 10 gun household members 64% say they often feel proud to be an American.

02:57:54.000 In contrast, about half, 51% of other adults say this.

02:57:58.000 There exists a constitutional mindset and reason for owning a weapon in the United States.

02:58:04.000 The United States ranks numero uno in gun ownership, dominating at 88.8% per 100 residents.

02:58:12.000 According to 2014 numbers from the Small Arms Survey based in Geneva, Switzerland, A group staffed by experts in security studies, political science, law, international public policy, developmental studies, economics, conflict resolution, and sociology.

02:58:26.000 These are the people pushing the international policies to agendize constitutional freedoms we as a nation require in order for our republic to operate.

02:58:36.000 And the media spin on the coverage is always the same.

02:58:39.000 Who cares who the shooter was in Oregon?

02:58:41.000 Why should we?

02:58:42.000 Our immediate and only reality-based concern should be for the families and communities that need to be protected by the next incident, whether it's three months or three years from now.

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02:59:58.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

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03:00:30.000 It's easy to serve evil.

03:00:33.000 It's easy to worship that twisted flame.

03:00:36.000 It's easy to bow at that altar.

03:00:39.000 It's hard to give life.

03:00:41.000 It's hard to lay down your life.

03:00:44.000 It's hard to stand up against the criticism.

03:00:47.000 Until you step across that line.

03:00:50.000 And you know it was all an illusion.

03:00:52.000 All a fraud.

03:00:55.000 You've now stepped out of the domain of this world.

03:00:58.000 you realize what a sick joke it is that humanity could have been free anytime they made the conscious decision to do so when the bullet hits the bone Alright, Kit Daniels wants to pop in and I want to get Matt to pop in.

03:01:19.000 Uh, with their points, they were making these points during the break and I just basically came in and repeated their points and said, hey, you tell them what you said.

03:01:24.000 And then I've said it.

03:01:25.000 Uh, but this is really revealing the mark of the beast, how it's going to work.

03:01:29.000 Everybody always knew this, a digital number, your face print, your thumb print.

03:01:33.000 It's your social media that if you don't behave and do what they say, you don't get the mark.

03:01:39.000 I mean, this is it.

03:01:40.000 The China globalist model, Zuckerberg's rolling it out the whole nine yards.

03:01:47.000 It's like Facebook goes, oh here we're giving you this Facebook message, you can reach millions with it.

03:01:51.000 We hope you're nice.

03:01:52.000 Oh, hope that doesn't get taken away if you're not.

03:01:57.000 Sam, this is how it all works.

03:01:58.000 Play ball, Alex.

03:02:01.000 It's fun.

03:02:02.000 Go along with it.

03:02:03.000 Yeah, I get the people down at the mid-level and the higher levels are nice folks that sold out.

03:02:09.000 Wink, wink.

03:02:10.000 I ain't doing it.

03:02:12.000 Because I know who runs the show at the top.

03:02:14.000 And boy, he doesn't like life.

03:02:17.000 Kit Daniels, your comments on this?

03:02:19.000 Well, the whole control over the population, what's more important than having money?

03:02:25.000 Is having the control over creation of money and how people engage in commerce.

03:02:30.000 And now this won't let you use it.

03:02:32.000 Now you won't have other economies.

03:02:33.000 That's why they're shutting down the farmers markets and the lemonade stands. 1.00

03:02:36.000 Exactly.

03:02:36.000 They can't have anything that isn't box stores and you've got to go to it to get your food.

03:02:40.000 The Soviet model on PCP and a high-tech grid.

03:02:43.000 Go ahead, sorry.

03:02:44.000 So when you have a tiny elite that has control over the money supply, they have control over human energy.

03:02:49.000 Because think about it, you and me and millions of other people in America, they're hard-working Americans.

03:02:55.000 They go out and they expense their energy in order to make a paycheck.

03:03:01.000 Oh yeah, now the banks are saying they're going to charge to keep money on them.

03:03:04.000 Yeah.

03:03:05.000 So, I mean, it's basically all it comes down to is this total control over the population.

03:03:10.000 And we won't organize, we won't stand up for each other, so we're going to get screwed, big time. 0.92

03:03:14.000 But it's okay because there's a black guy up there who's liberal, and Hillary, he's taking care of us. 0.53

03:03:18.000 Doesn't matter if they allow loan-sharking loan rates all across the country.

03:03:22.000 Doesn't matter if they're screwing everybody over with Obamacare. 1.00

03:03:25.000 We feel like we're winners, so it's okay.

03:03:27.000 And the Republicans at the top are all part of it, so they won't expose it either.

03:03:30.000 That's why we're in so much trouble.

03:03:32.000 Go ahead, sorry.

03:03:34.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry for laughing.

03:03:35.000 It's really not even that funny when you think about it.

03:03:38.000 But yeah, it's like, it just goes back to lust for power that's been going on for thousands of years.

03:03:43.000 Yeah, the lust to screw everybody over.

03:03:45.000 Yeah.

03:03:45.000 And the easiest way now for the elite to have gained power is through controlling money and controlling the money supply.

03:03:54.000 Because once you control money and its creation and how it's spent and how it's saved, you have control over everything.

03:04:02.000 And that's just, sadly, that's just the way it is.

03:04:05.000 And then people say, oh, it's just the elite, they want world peace, it's okay, let them have control.

03:04:08.000 No. 0.63

03:04:09.000 They want to genetically engineer everything and kill everybody. 0.99

03:04:12.000 You cannot give these psychos control, folks. 0.99

03:04:15.000 Yeah, look at it this way.

03:04:16.000 I mean, think about how they are putting all these controls over money and capital control, saying, oh, we're using this to fight terrorism, to track the money through ISIS and whatnot, but they're the ones that created ISIS. 0.71

03:04:27.000 It's just another false flag.

03:04:28.000 Totally naked, totally obvious.

03:04:30.000 Matt, quick comment.

03:04:31.000 Do you want to come on and make your point about gamerism?

03:04:34.000 Sure, yeah.

03:04:36.000 So gamification is indoctrination.

03:04:40.000 I'm looking at the definition.

03:04:43.000 I've got it up here on my computer.

03:04:46.000 And the end of that right there, typically as an online marketing technique to encourage engagement in a product or service.

03:04:53.000 That's sucking you into a false reality.

03:04:55.000 After Benny leaves, when Benny's on, I'm going to bring you up halfway in to give you a few minutes to really lay this out and get his take on it.

03:05:02.000 This is one of the smartest people when it comes to mathematics out there.

03:05:04.000 Stay with us.

03:05:06.000 Yeah.

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03:08:07.000 You want answers?

03:08:19.000 Well, so does he.

03:08:20.000 It's Alex Jones.

03:08:21.000 Thank you for joining us.

03:08:23.000 Thank you for joining us.

03:08:28.000 We're now well into the second hour, the 22nd day of December 2015 on this Tuesday edition.

03:08:33.000 I am your host, Alex Jones.

03:08:37.000 The news websites are InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.

03:08:41.000 And please, don't take for granted the fact that you can still visit these websites.

03:08:45.000 There are all sorts of moves to censor the internet.

03:08:49.000 The FCC chair who sought to regulate drudge slams colleagues as dysfunctional.

03:08:55.000 There are open moves to censor the internet.

03:08:59.000 Again, Matt Drudge, when he visited us a few months ago, was told point-blank by a Supreme Court Justice, who he told me about privately but didn't say the name on air, that they've been told next year they're going to try to pass laws and regulations to censor the internet and free speech and call it political speech and try to tax it.

03:09:14.000 The power to tax is the power to destroy.

03:09:16.000 So much happening.

03:09:17.000 I want to get William Binney's take today, former technical leader for the intelligence with the National Security Agency, the developer of many of the systems we see in use today, According to major defense publications, probably one of the greatest code breakers ever, not just living.

03:09:33.000 But I want to get his take on China just launched the most frightening game ever, and it will be mandatory. 1.00

03:09:40.000 We've talked about this some, but now it's official.

03:09:42.000 They're going to force everyone in the next four years in China to adopt it.

03:09:45.000 It goes online next year.

03:09:47.000 All your purchases, what you do.

03:09:50.000 What you say about the government will be put into a social credit score.

03:09:53.000 You won't be able to get hotels, won't be able to travel, won't be able to leave the country, if you haven't been a good party member.

03:10:00.000 Or if you haven't towed the party line.

03:10:01.000 This is the mark of the beast.

03:10:04.000 Even if you don't believe in God, the devil, whatever, they're using it as an owner's manual.

03:10:09.000 Where all your data goes in, and this is what Zuckerberg's been meeting with the head of the Chinese Censorship Bureau, who set up this infrastructure.

03:10:16.000 This is the model.

03:10:19.000 And it's incredibly dangerous.

03:10:21.000 It's over the top.

03:10:22.000 We've got all these omnibus bills and surveillance bills being rammed through, always happening around the Christmas season when people are distracted.

03:10:31.000 There's so much to discuss with William Binney.

03:10:33.000 He's the former technical leader for intelligence for the NSA, before becoming a whistleblower in late 2001, privately to Congress.

03:10:40.000 Nothing was done.

03:10:41.000 After more than 30 years with the agency, Binney has been described as one of the best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.

03:10:47.000 Binney continues to speak out about the NSA's data collection policies, and continues interviews in the media regarding his experiences.

03:10:53.000 And they got the new big movie coming out, of course that Oliver Stone's putting out, that has a big character playing the part of William Binney in it.

03:11:02.000 He's testified and affidavit that the NSA is a deliberate violation of the U.S.

03:11:05.000 Constitution.

03:11:06.000 ExposedFacts.org has a lot of his writings.

03:11:12.000 He, of course, has physically come and been interviewed by us here.

03:11:17.000 And it's important to understand, he's made the statement, this is about total social control of the general public, not about protecting us from terrorists.

03:11:24.000 Notice they let the Syrian refugees in, who are really mainly Sunni invaders, Homesteaders. 1.00

03:11:30.000 Pilgrims.

03:11:31.000 Trying to come in and take over Syria. 0.99

03:11:33.000 Out of Saudi Arabia and other countries.

03:11:35.000 That's admitted.

03:11:36.000 80% of the Pentagon admits.

03:11:38.000 The EU says that as well.

03:11:38.000 80% roughly.

03:11:39.000 Fake passports, you name it. 0.95

03:11:41.000 Large percentages are jihadis.

03:11:43.000 They're now being brought in.

03:11:44.000 Clearly. 0.97

03:11:44.000 So when they attack, they'll say it's not Muslim terror. 0.97

03:11:47.000 But we gotta take your guns. 0.96

03:11:48.000 We gotta restrict your rights. 1.00

03:11:49.000 We gotta reauthorize all the NSA spying.

03:11:51.000 We've gotta expand it.

03:11:54.000 So, this is what we're dealing with.

03:11:56.000 They're not protecting us.

03:11:58.000 Fourteen years after 9-11, Al-Qaeda has turned into the giant ISIS organization with hundreds of thousands.

03:12:05.000 How is that?

03:12:06.000 With Hillary Clinton and others openly funding them with the weapons.

03:12:10.000 It's clear.

03:12:11.000 Saudi Arabia gets to take over the Middle East with its fighters. 0.99

03:12:14.000 They play along with their anti-American, get a few targets, wind up some of their operatives who don't know what they're doing to attack us.

03:12:23.000 And then, Western governments can set up totalitarianism.

03:12:28.000 And it came out a few months ago in NSA reports and it's also come out, the CIA has admitted it.

03:12:33.000 ISIS puts out in their official magazine that we're not CIA, we're not working with the West.

03:12:38.000 Don't listen to that, that's the one thing hurting their recruitment.

03:12:41.000 Is that young Muslims can't be wound up by them to go up and shoot up and blow stuff up because they're understanding this is meant to cause a clash of civilizations and more invasions of the Middle East to knock out countries like Syria that aren't against the United States. 1.00

03:12:56.000 Just like Saudi Arabia is involved in attacking us on 9-11, that's now on the 28 pages, we know that. 0.92

03:13:02.000 And we attack Iraq. 0.98

03:13:05.000 So there's such an awakening, this is incredible.

03:13:07.000 Now what I wanted to bring up to William Binning was a new book called Military to Military, the London Review of Books covered yesterday, as well as the New Yorker Magazine, where Cy Hirst, the two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, Breaks down what we already know from Colonel Schaefer and our other contacts that we broke three and a half, four years ago with Benghazi.

03:13:25.000 I'm just setting the table here with William Benny and we'll do this for the rest of the hour.

03:13:31.000 That our own military, from majors, captains, master sergeants, you name it, on up to two-star generals, like the former head of defense intelligence, Michael Flynn coming out and saying, we are ordered to create this ISIS group and to fund them.

03:13:50.000 This is a willful plan and I don't know why they're doing it.

03:13:54.000 Well, it's so they can take American freedoms and European freedoms away. 0.89

03:13:57.000 But we have a lot of top generals now that have just quit or been fired going public.

03:14:02.000 So there is what I would call a soft counter-coup.

03:14:05.000 Not a coup by the military, which I don't support.

03:14:07.000 Very dangerous.

03:14:08.000 Normally goes bad.

03:14:10.000 But a literal soft coup and it's coming out in the news but then getting spun.

03:14:15.000 So William Binning spent years testifying secretly to Congress behind closed doors, and he was rewarded with a SWAT team raid while he was in the shower.

03:14:23.000 They waited until that to drag him around naked in his house.

03:14:25.000 That's what they do.

03:14:27.000 To demoralize you.

03:14:30.000 But for testifying to Congress, as the former technical director, that's a guy running the actual show.

03:14:40.000 Because he exposed they could have stopped Al Qaeda, they could have done all of it. 0.96

03:14:45.000 And they tried to set him up.

03:14:46.000 They tried to set up Drake and others.

03:14:48.000 I mean, guys, this is a true hero.

03:14:51.000 And he doesn't want to be called that.

03:14:53.000 We need to recognize who the heroes are.

03:14:54.000 It's not people putting basketballs in hoops or people hitting golf balls and hole-on-ones.

03:14:58.000 It's people that stand up for what's right and really try to protect this country as well.

03:15:03.000 Now, I'm done with my five-minute preface, Mr. Benny.

03:15:05.000 I've sent a lot of stuff out there, the latest bills, the legislation, all of it.

03:15:10.000 But just to go from 10 years ago, them denying there was any illegal NSA spying, and now admitting it all and trying to codify it in law and then admitting it's being used against Congress and political enemies.

03:15:20.000 And now they want to merge with China with a system that socially tracks everything you do to not let you buy or sell or live a digital blackball.

03:15:29.000 you That I warned of 20 years ago.

03:15:32.000 I mean, this is unprecedented.

03:15:34.000 The conscious, evil nature of this, sir.

03:15:37.000 You can start anywhere you wish.

03:15:38.000 I appreciate you joining us.

03:15:40.000 Well, thanks for having me, Alex.

03:15:42.000 I'm glad to be back with you.

03:15:45.000 Yes, you've said an awful lot there.

03:15:47.000 I mean, I guess the real point is that the intelligence agencies of the world are kind of banding together to do this kind of monitoring of everybody on the planet.

03:15:58.000 And it's spreading.

03:16:01.000 And they're using different, they're lying to the public and giving them disinformation about the, for example, the latest lies are about the, they couldn't stop Paris or San Bernardino because they were encrypting.

03:16:13.000 Well, when the evidence comes out, you find out that that's just another lie.

03:16:17.000 It's another disinformation program.

03:16:20.000 Where they want people to believe it's one thing when in fact it's another.

03:16:24.000 So their whole objective there is to get rid of encryption or be able to be able to read into any encryption on the network anywhere.

03:16:31.000 And that's what they're trying to use to justify it.

03:16:34.000 But again, the real problem is their bulk acquisition of data.

03:16:37.000 That's always been the problem and it continues to be.

03:16:40.000 Even internally in NSA and the various agencies, they're telling them We're overpowered by overload, and we're in analysis paralysis because we can't focus because of all the massive amounts of data.

03:16:52.000 Which is what the dark actors really want.

03:16:54.000 This is the fog for what I would liken to Spectre, these global corporations to just take over.

03:16:59.000 Yeah, that's right.

03:17:00.000 And what it really does is it gives them all that power, having all that knowledge, then they now know how or who they have to deal with in their societies to be able to control the outcomes.

03:17:11.000 That's really what I've been saying for several years is that their whole idea is population control and in order to do that you have to have knowledge about the population and that's what this is giving them.

03:17:24.000 What an amazing statement by you the former technical director of the NSA that Global intelligence agencies, I guess other than Russia, are merging right now.

03:17:36.000 And Zuckerberg and others admit we're going with the Chinese model because they can beta test illegal stuff on a mass scale. 0.99

03:17:42.000 Can you speak directly to China's systems of control feeding all the data in and saying, if you say something bad about the party, we're going to phase it in where you can't buy or sell?

03:17:52.000 I mean, this is the ultimate nightmare in my view.

03:17:55.000 Yeah, I think it's taking off a bit on the model that's already been built between, for example, the industry and the U.S., the NSA, CIA, FBI, primarily.

03:18:06.000 Those are the ones who are involved in setting it up internally in the U.S., and that's now the model they're going to try to export to China.

03:18:12.000 I guess it sounds like they're going to be trying different things on top of that model to see if they can expand on it or improve it.

03:18:18.000 Basically, a security clearance to live.

03:18:24.000 A security clearance to even be able to function and have a job even in the private sector.

03:18:28.000 I mean, this is beyond Hitler's... 0.89

03:18:30.000 Best dreams, isn't it, sir?

03:18:32.000 Oh, it's well beyond Orwell's in 1984, too.

03:18:36.000 I mean, it's just, it's just total, it's getting into not only the things that you're doing and who you're working with and who you do those things with, but also what you're thinking.

03:18:45.000 And that's really, that's really where this is heading.

03:18:47.000 And then openly blackmailing you to submit and do everything you're told, or they will lower your social score so you can't operate in society and can't travel.

03:18:57.000 Yeah, and if they can't get to you, they'll get to somebody you care about, just like the KGB did. 0.88

03:19:02.000 So it's no different than that.

03:19:04.000 And they admit it's going to be a no-fly list just because your score is low.

03:19:07.000 No judge, no jury, just a big algorithm, now you can't travel.

03:19:11.000 And so many high-powered people I've talked to have been openly told now, this is coming here, you better get in line, and they're rolling over, Mr. Binney.

03:19:17.000 Don't they know that will ensure the totalitarian takeover?

03:19:22.000 Well, I think that that's basically what they're all aiming for.

03:19:25.000 I mean, that's really the underlying effort that they're aiming at.

03:19:31.000 That's what they want to achieve.

03:19:33.000 Good God.

03:19:34.000 Well, sir, I'm here just very emotional about this because I scan it every day.

03:19:37.000 You're the true expert on it.

03:19:39.000 You've got the floor the next 10 minutes.

03:19:40.000 What's most important?

03:19:41.000 What should people know with the highest level NSA whistleblower of all time here with us on air?

03:19:50.000 The point is that everything coming out of the government is distorted in one form or another, not really coming and being honest with anybody in the public anymore.

03:19:59.000 You can't trust them at all.

03:20:01.000 And you cannot, even the government, inside the government, they can't even trust what the intelligence agencies are telling them are wrong or what their law enforcement agencies are telling them anymore.

03:20:09.000 They can't, they're distorting what's being presented in the courts of law.

03:20:13.000 I mean, they're just destroying all our founding principles.

03:20:17.000 And I've been basically on television saying that this is basically treason against the founding principles of this nation.

03:20:24.000 And, you know, we as people have to stop and say, we're not going to tolerate this anymore.

03:20:30.000 And if they can't, if they don't start subscribing to getting back to the principles of under the Constitution of personal rights by individuals, Then I think we need to fire everyone that's involved in that.

03:20:47.000 And I would argue we need to fire everyone in D.C.

03:20:50.000 right now, because they have no common sense about how things are proceeding.

03:20:54.000 They don't seem to understand the consequences of the things they're doing.

03:20:57.000 I mean, it just seems that they believe, for one reason or another, and I think it's because they're being bamboozled by the intelligence people, That they have to do these things or else the sky's gonna fall, right?

03:21:14.000 When in fact that's just an outright lie and it's a distortion to try to manipulate people to do what they want and they're falling for it.

03:21:21.000 All of our politicians are falling for it.

03:21:23.000 Sir, your record was impeccable.

03:21:25.000 You know, you were holding the rank of a general at the NSA.

03:21:29.000 They knew to not come and directly try to buy you off or threaten you because they knew you had such integrity.

03:21:33.000 That's why you were there from kind of an old guard system that was more based on that.

03:21:38.000 With people in Congress and in the general public who are more modern and more decadent, they point blank either offer to buy them off or threaten them.

03:21:46.000 I mean, I'm talking to more and more prominent people where I'm sure you saw last year when they legalized CIA propaganda domestically and quote the CIA and the Pentagon engaging in social operations domestically.

03:21:58.000 They're actually sending CIA, you name it, people into businesses, into companies, even at the mid-level now.

03:22:07.000 Either offering him stuff or threatening them to go along with his takeover, sir.

03:22:11.000 This is the equivalent.

03:22:12.000 I'm sure you're familiar with how the Germans for five years quietly infiltrated France and got the top general staff to stand down. 0.58

03:22:20.000 The Blitzkrieg was a joke. 0.92

03:22:21.000 It really didn't even fight the French.

03:22:23.000 They fought the British Expeditionary Force, pushed them to Dunkirk.

03:22:26.000 And I liken this to a infiltration operation where they've actually, this foreign globalist coup, this corporate coup, has already, I know I said I'm giving you the floor and I'm jumping in here, I want you to comment on this, has already come in and basically infiltrated and taken over.

03:22:41.000 They just don't come and tell you something like that because they know how much integrity you have.

03:22:47.000 Yeah, it's getting back to the idea of, you know, how many people can you manipulate and coerce or force in one form or another by blackmail or any other means to do the things that you want done?

03:23:01.000 I mean, that's basically what's going on.

03:23:03.000 I mean, it seemed to it just it just to me, I just can't envision my country ever going this route.

03:23:10.000 I mean, I could never have thought that this would ever happen here.

03:23:13.000 But it has.

03:23:14.000 You know, you can't go around saying things like, this cannot happen here, like in the in the 30s, when when the Nazis took over, when the communists took over or whenever, you know, all these different power struggles have gone down through history.

03:23:27.000 I mean, it can happen here.

03:23:29.000 That's the whole point.

03:23:31.000 And if we aren't vigilant, I mean, I keep saying democracy is not a spectator sport.

03:23:37.000 You have to participate.

03:23:38.000 You've got to get out there and keep the fight to keep it.

03:23:41.000 I mean, this is something that people People try to, down through history, it's full of regimes that have tried to do this.

03:23:48.000 Just take the power away from the people and consolidate it and become the kind of dictator or despot that controls everything.

03:23:55.000 I mean, that's just really what's going on.

03:23:57.000 This is our struggle.

03:23:59.000 It has never changed down through history.

03:24:03.000 Absolutely.

03:24:03.000 And sir, look at the fact that a lot of dictators were bad, but they just wanted to control everything.

03:24:08.000 Some of them were egomaniacs and actually built big things, started universities, did some good.

03:24:13.000 I mean, I'm not endorsing dictatorship, but this dictatorship of these social engineers is really anti-family, anti-human, anti-individual.

03:24:21.000 It's anti-Renaissance.

03:24:23.000 It's like a corporate Borg.

03:24:25.000 It's so alien that just my very, very genetic code says resist this with everything you've got.

03:24:34.000 Yeah, it basically says you will have no freedoms except those that we grant you.

03:24:38.000 That's basically what their whole program is going to end up doing.

03:24:46.000 Unbelievable.

03:24:48.000 Unbelievable.

03:24:49.000 William Binney, former Technical Director of the National Security Agency, is our guest.

03:24:52.000 We'll take some calls coming up in the next segment.

03:24:59.000 800-259-9231.

03:25:00.000 Looking at these bills, looking at the legislation, looking at the things that are being done, what is your overall view of the announcements that are being made, the things that are being engaged in?

03:25:11.000 Well, I mean, some of the things they're trying to pass, like the FISBUG putting it into this big funding bill and burying it in there and passing it through is just another way of corrupting the process and getting it through under basically the cover of a massive bill.

03:25:27.000 Those are the kinds of things they're sneaking through, and they're doing it by the leadership of our Congress is doing.

03:25:33.000 Republicans and Democrats are all supporting this.

03:25:36.000 They're no different, really.

03:25:38.000 So, and they're doing it because they know they can't stand out in the open and say the things they want to say in a bill.

03:25:47.000 So they've got to do it in some kind of under the cover or kind of in a sneaky way to get it through.

03:25:53.000 And so that gives them, and then they say that authorizes them the power to do whatever they want to do, which in fact I contest.

03:26:01.000 None of that is constitutional, and any time it reaches a constitutional test, it will fail.

03:26:07.000 And they were caught doing it all in secret and lying to the public, and using it against political targets.

03:26:12.000 It's all a fraud.

03:26:14.000 Right.

03:26:14.000 Exactly.

03:26:17.000 And they're afraid of having constitutional tests, when in fact, that is the true test of a law.

03:26:23.000 Does it really conform to the Constitution or not?

03:26:25.000 If it doesn't, it's not a law.

03:26:28.000 Well, clearly if they can get away with this, they can get away with anything.

03:26:30.000 I've been talking to a lot of big Hollywood people, a lot of big government people, and they are just terrified.

03:26:36.000 They say, oh, I thought you were crazy about the NSA 15 years ago, Alex, but now it's all admitted and I'm scared, I'm not going to speak out.

03:26:43.000 So that chilling effect is kind of working.

03:26:45.000 Don't these people understand giving into the fear is what ensures that the real next phase of oppression comes in?

03:26:54.000 Yeah, that's the whole point that I was making, too, by saying if you acquiesce in a democracy, you'll lose it.

03:27:02.000 So you've got to stand up and fight.

03:27:04.000 That's what the people in democracy are supposed to do.

03:27:07.000 You're supposed to stand up for your rights.

03:27:11.000 I know you never talk to colleagues at the NSA anymore because they'll try to indict you.

03:27:15.000 I know they've been harassing a lot of your other colleagues and folks, but Is there, I mean, isn't there a sense of shame?

03:27:23.000 I mean, I know there is, because look at all the leaks that they're having to fix intelligence, that they're funding Al-Qaeda and ISIS.

03:27:30.000 I mean, I am seeing a lot of good signs.

03:27:32.000 What I mentioned earlier, and what Cy Hirst is reporting, that there's basically a soft counter-coup inside the military going on against a lot of this stuff.

03:27:43.000 Yeah, I think, and I think you're right, because there's some other whistleblowers, like the four fellows that came out to blow the whistle on the droning, and basically the random slaughter going on there. 0.97

03:27:55.000 So there's that, too.

03:27:56.000 Plus, I know Internally, well, they're still so afraid of going into a court of law to be constitutionally challenged that they, it tells you that they're afraid of sunshine, you know, shining the light on, it's like picking up a rock and watching the, I draw the analogy when you pick up a rock, you can see all the bugs and worms squirm to get out of the sunlight.

03:28:16.000 Well, that's basically what our, what our political leaders are doing now.

03:28:22.000 And I'm not differentiating between any of the parties.

03:28:24.000 They're all seem to be a part of it.

03:28:26.000 So I just throw them all together.

03:28:28.000 If anybody does this kind of support for things that are simply taking away our rights and assembling knowledge in the central government about the people in the country, I mean, that's fundamentally what our Constitution was supposed to stop, and it was designed that way.

03:28:45.000 You know, the people were supposed to know what the government was doing, the government was not supposed to know what they were doing, unless they had probable cause.

03:28:54.000 Instead they open the borders up, don't check anybody, but Stick a magnifying glass down our throats.

03:28:59.000 I mean, it really is the breaking of the will of the American people.

03:29:04.000 And I just can't believe how many men I know that are scared now to know we have a tyrannical government.

03:29:09.000 You know, the whole thing's not tyrannical, though.

03:29:11.000 There are a lot of good people in the government and in the corporations that are trying to stop this.

03:29:15.000 We all have to speak out and get involved now, and we can turn the tide against this, and you're doing that.

03:29:21.000 That's my point, yeah.

03:29:22.000 I think the more people who stand up against this, the better chance we have of stopping it here, initially, and then trying to initiate a stop around the world.

03:29:30.000 Because we started this infection and it went through the British, now GCHQ, the Germans, the BND, and various other countries around the world.

03:29:37.000 Let's talk about that national debate.

03:29:38.000 Alright sir, we've got a break.

03:29:39.000 William Binning, ExposedFacts.org.

03:29:42.000 We want to wish you a Merry Christmas as well sir.

03:29:44.000 What a super patriot we've got on the line.

03:29:46.000 And also having dinner with this guy.

03:29:48.000 Unbelievable, fourth, fifth, six-dimensional level thinking.

03:29:52.000 He pretty much built the NSA that's there today, folks.

03:29:52.000 You can tell why.

03:29:54.000 He is the master.

03:29:57.000 We're on the march.

03:29:58.000 The Empire's on the run.

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03:33:27.000 It's Alex Jones.

03:33:31.000 Our whole modern world has been about coddling, making sure we never have experiences that make us empowered individuals.

03:33:38.000 The Pentagon ran a major PSYOP operation.

03:33:46.000 This summer, Jade Helm, Day one we said it wasn't a military takeover or gun confiscation.

03:33:55.000 We said it was a conditioning operation for troops on the streets of America for civil unrest and also practice in the United States but also overseas using databases of information to roll in and out of cities undetected.

03:34:11.000 And to master the human domain.

03:34:13.000 And the commanding general over it gave a slideshow that we played parts of, admitting it's about mastering the human domain and controlling the population.

03:34:23.000 I then ran into some Special Forces people.

03:34:27.000 One of them very well known, but I'm not going to say his name.

03:34:31.000 He'll probably end up being on the show.

03:34:34.000 And they said, look, we all saw right through that and the psyop they ran saying that this is this weekend, saying that you said we were coming to take over.

03:34:41.000 Believe me, Alex, no one in SF, Army, Marines, Navy, no one buys any of it.

03:34:51.000 And we know that's why they're rolling out with autonomous drones, robots, all of it.

03:34:54.000 We get it.

03:34:55.000 We know you're dead on.

03:34:56.000 So again, I'm not lionizing the military.

03:34:59.000 I've always been critical of it being used and just worshipped mindlessly, you know, where the military is paying for them to, you know, have patriotic stuff at the Super Bowl.

03:35:07.000 That's to sell the state as if it's the military with stolen glory.

03:35:13.000 But they've got a big problem in that the boots on the ground, right up to the generals, they're trying to put all these weird pencil pushers in and all these weird politicos who've never even been involved in combat.

03:35:27.000 They're putting, you know, guys that are political hacks in, especially under Obama.

03:35:33.000 That really endangers us against foreign governments, the delusion of the Hillary Clinton, the Obamas, the neocons, none of them have been in the military, to go start these wars with Russia.

03:35:45.000 I mean, it's not just what William Binney was about to get into, former technical director of the NSA, but the situation with All these different governments and all the different systems spying and there's too much data, so it makes everybody blind.

03:36:00.000 It's beyond that.

03:36:02.000 It's that they're starting wars with Russia.

03:36:05.000 They're starting wars in Syria.

03:36:06.000 They're doing unprecedented bad stuff.

03:36:10.000 And even our top generals go, it's immoral. 0.70

03:36:13.000 Why overthrow a country and have Al-Qaeda come in, that's what ISIS is, and murder the Christians? 0.98

03:36:18.000 I mean, it's just so nasty.

03:36:22.000 And it's not even Machiavelli, because it doesn't bring down Iran, their regime, it actually makes them look moral! 0.96

03:36:30.000 I mean, it's hubris, it's arrogance, but you could also look at it like they're globalists running this, they want to discredit America.

03:36:37.000 William Binney, I want you to get back to the points you got cut off at the break on, but separately, Being at the highest levels of the NSA, I know there's a method to some of the madness, clearly they're running things, but also there's a lot of hubris and arrogance and it really is scary to see a bunch of chicken hawks playing God and Hillary saying she came to Libya, she saw Gaddafi died when the woman couldn't fight her way out of a wet paper bag. 0.98

03:37:02.000 There's something obscene about a lazy politico shooting her mouth off about killing people. 1.00

03:37:09.000 It just, it just, it just reeks of classic, classic flaming megalomania, sir. 0.97

03:37:16.000 Yes, in fact, I've been amazed at the arrogance of the intelligence community, even to our own government.

03:37:22.000 I mean, they just seem to have them all wrapped around their finger, much like J. Edgar Hoover did with most of the politicians in the House and Senate and the White House, back when he was the director of the FBI for, you know, 40 years or so.

03:37:39.000 So, I mean, he had information and knowledge about them, and if they didn't know that he did, they believed he did.

03:37:46.000 So, that's how he kept his power.

03:37:49.000 And this is getting very similar to that, but on a much larger scale.

03:37:54.000 And I would point out that what's happening now is what we impeached and indicted Richard Nixon for, only he was only doing a minor, minuscule amount compared to what they're doing now.

03:38:06.000 Yes, sir.

03:38:08.000 Don't the elites know that historically every time bringing in an oppression, a tyranny, a panopticon system like this will always end up destroying them?

03:38:18.000 They're going to be the number one targets of what they've created.

03:38:22.000 They've dug a pit for us.

03:38:24.000 Won't they be the ones that fall into it historically?

03:38:27.000 Well, I think if it gets really violent, like in World War II and so on, yes, they would be the ones to pay for it.

03:38:34.000 But essentially, I think they're banking on the fact that this will be a long, drawn-out thing, and so they'll be able to pass it on to their successors, and that they won't have to pay anything directly for it.

03:38:45.000 So in other words, they'll be able to get by through their lifetime without having suffered any consequences, but their successors will be the ones to suffer that.

03:38:54.000 And by then, they believe technology will outrace that, and they'll be secure, or they'll dumb the public down enough to do it.

03:38:58.000 You're absolutely right.

03:38:59.000 They are building a lot of redoubts, though, in different circuitous areas around the world right now, hedging their bets. 1.00

03:39:07.000 Yes, and you know, I personally like to get right in their face because they shrink away every time.

03:39:15.000 It's a matter of, you know, again, it's the idea of sunlight.

03:39:18.000 They're afraid of sunlight.

03:39:20.000 Because then they will be the ones to suffer the consequences and the results of what they've done.

03:39:26.000 That's what they're trying to avoid.

03:39:29.000 Like Karl Rove said, they control reality.

03:39:30.000 No, they don't.

03:39:31.000 They just avoid reality.

03:39:32.000 It's called being delusional.

03:39:34.000 William Binning, incredible to have you here.

03:39:36.000 Other technical things people need to know about what's happening in the world right now, sir.

03:39:42.000 Well, it's basically, I think the greatest threat is to allow companies to continue to manage and have this kind of information about people because then they have the ability, like we were talking about China, then they have the ability to go to China and see and then influence them in a way that would be very similar of accumulating information on individual citizens.

03:40:05.000 I mean, in their countries, so the companies in their international companies, so this is getting spread internationally accelerated through that process.

03:40:14.000 And I think that's probably one of the major things that we really should be dealing with here in this country and in Europe.

03:40:21.000 I know the Europeans are trying to deal with it now.

03:40:24.000 And I'm trying to give my two cents and contributions to them and hopefully they'll start a worldwide effort that might be able to turn this around.

03:40:34.000 Yes, sir.

03:40:36.000 But I think holding companies responsible for the information they're holding is and in fact probably even denying them the legal right to hold that data might be the best option eventually.

03:40:48.000 Well, if folks, and of course when I have you on, sir, you're so influential, you have so much courage.

03:40:53.000 I mean, it's just true.

03:40:54.000 I don't normally gush like this with guests, unless they deserve it.

03:40:57.000 You're out there doing so many interviews, have gone through so much to warn people.

03:41:02.000 I try to bounce stuff off of you, obviously, to see if you think it's accurate from my perspective.

03:41:06.000 And it is even more frightening that pretty much always you concur with my basic analysis of it, just as a layperson looking at the larger geopolitical and cultural ramifications.

03:41:17.000 We know why they're trying to ban white Christmas and brown paper bags and saying if you serve Chinese food at a school lunch program it's racist.

03:41:25.000 They're projecting all these things that don't exist that aren't really racist or discriminatory because we're all being discriminated against by this new technocratic system being set up.

03:41:35.000 Where if you're not a good little New World Order person, you won't be able to have a job or live or get a hotel room or travel. 0.54

03:41:42.000 They're announcing all this.

03:41:44.000 This is classical discrimination and oppression.

03:41:47.000 And so they want us to define all these phantom menaces now, while the greatest Acts of institutionalized tyranny the world's ever seen are being codified into a physical surveillance grid that, as you said, is beyond any fantastical dream of George Orwell.

03:42:06.000 Yes, and I just liken this to the, you know, the case of the Wizard of Oz.

03:42:10.000 This is a scenario they're painting is to basically pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, when in fact the man behind the curtain is them and they're doing some very bad things.

03:42:24.000 Well I think it's very important for the establishment to realize, let me ask you this being up there at the highest levels, I know that the people at the mid-level and even high-level that are patriots, I mean I actually abashed the government a lot, they call me anti-government because I'm a libertarian, I'm not, but I've actually been impressed as I've gotten higher level, gotten to really know a lot of influential people across the board, that I find in government actually,

03:42:52.000 More moral people, more awake people, more concerned people, especially when you get higher up, it's very strange, not at the very top, but that next to the top, they're the ones that are freaked out and want to do something.

03:43:03.000 They got into this to really defend the country.

03:43:05.000 I mean, somebody like you could have made, you know, $10 million a year with your science and mathematics, but you would, you know, take a pay cut and work at the NSA.

03:43:13.000 So it's kind of a paradox that government's got so many problems, but then the corporations are just as bad, and then we tend to just either see it as good or bad.

03:43:22.000 Are you for the government or against the government?

03:43:25.000 It's more sophisticated than that.

03:43:28.000 Yeah, it's not black or white for sure, and it's a matter of whether or not you agree with the underlying principles of why we formed this nation and got rid of George III.

03:43:43.000 Or you don't.

03:43:43.000 And the point is, more and more, people over time, I guess, we're becoming so comfortable in our living standard that we're losing what it took to get here.

03:43:55.000 We're failing to realize that in order to have all these freedoms, we had to work very hard and sacrifice a lot to get here.

03:44:03.000 And that's what the people who fought World War II have told Tom Drake when he did interviews with them.

03:44:10.000 They were saying things like, What did we fight for?

03:44:13.000 You know, given the current circumstance of where we're headed.

03:44:17.000 I mean, we didn't fight for an omnipresent government monitoring everything the people in the country are doing.

03:44:26.000 That's not freedom.

03:44:28.000 And they were asking him those questions, even when he was doing interviews for the National Archives as a part of his court settlement.

03:44:38.000 Amazing.

03:44:39.000 That's really a disturbing statement from veterans of World War II.

03:44:48.000 Well, my grandfather, he was deeply concerned.

03:44:53.000 Because living here in Texas, they brought a lot of the rat line Nazis to Texas and New Mexico and in the areas where he worked, he had to run into them all the time. 0.99

03:45:01.000 And he was always pretty calm when I was a little kid, staying there for a week or so in the summer, but he would rant about all the damn Nazis. 0.98

03:45:08.000 And he had a lot of friends obviously killed in World War II and all the positions in government they were in. 0.98

03:45:13.000 And that he was concerned that we were going to go that way.

03:45:15.000 And, you know, my mom would say, oh, you're, you know, my dad's eccentric.

03:45:18.000 And my dad would say, no, no, he's smart.

03:45:21.000 But, you know, I just, I don't know what he would think saying this today, William Benning.

03:45:25.000 Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

03:45:29.000 My dog's getting a little upset here.

03:45:36.000 I understand.

03:45:36.000 You want to let the dog out, sir, and then we can... No, no, no.

03:45:38.000 I'm fine.

03:45:39.000 He's okay.

03:45:40.000 He just wanted to be petted, that's all.

03:45:42.000 What kind of dog is he?

03:45:44.000 He's a pretty big boy.

03:45:44.000 German Shepherd.

03:45:46.000 He's about 125, 130 pounds.

03:45:48.000 Something like that.

03:45:49.000 He's a big boy.

03:45:50.000 Well, I'm glad he survived the SWAT team raid.

03:45:52.000 Yeah.

03:45:53.000 Well, he wasn't here at the time.

03:45:54.000 That was good, you know?

03:45:56.000 Otherwise, you don't know what they would have done.

03:46:00.000 When you looked at the federal SWAT team that came in on you, I know they probably had their faces covered, were they proud of themselves while they were throwing your house around and grabbing on you out of the shower?

03:46:09.000 Were they proud of themselves?

03:46:10.000 No, I think they were a bit, it seemed to me that most of them seemed a bit disturbed as to why they were there.

03:46:18.000 That's good, that's what I've been finding.

03:46:20.000 Yeah, and that's basically, most of them, the only one who wasn't there Who wasn't disturbed was the guy who signed the warrant, the senior special agent Paul Maric.

03:46:32.000 He was already cleared into the program and he knew why he was there.

03:46:35.000 He was there to get us, to get basically, keep the cover up going on the programs that they were running that we knew about and that we were complaining to Congress about.

03:46:46.000 So he knew that, and the rest of them didn't, so... Yeah, how dare you go to Congress as you're supposed to by law when the law is being broken and secretly testify?

03:46:55.000 How horrible!

03:46:56.000 Let's send a... I mean, and imagine that guy getting promotions because he would engage in things like this.

03:47:02.000 What a dishonorable person.

03:47:05.000 Yes, that's, you know, that's hard for me to imagine people like that looking themselves in the mirror when they're shaving in the morning.

03:47:14.000 I want to go to some phone calls.

03:47:15.000 I'm not going to play the clip because of time, but Apple's Tim Cook, their CEO, has come out on 60 Minutes and said they don't want to go along with these different bills, that it's an invasion of privacy.

03:47:25.000 You notice, I don't want to glorify Steve Jobs, but he held off on letting them in to the Apple encryption, and one week after he died, Apple gave up the codes.

03:47:34.000 Do you think that's lip service by Apple for customers, or do you think it's real?

03:47:39.000 Well, I think for Steve Jobs it was probably real for sure.

03:47:44.000 But for the rest of them, I think... See, the problem is they also get paid for all this information and this access, so... It adds to their bottom line with no additional effort, basically, on their part.

03:47:56.000 Well, that's another question.

03:47:57.000 Why put up NSA and FBI stingrays, tens of thousands of them, stealing all the cell phone data, when it already runs through all the hubs and they can just have it sorted there and then bulk batch it?

03:48:08.000 Is it because they don't want a record that it was grabbed off the hubs?

03:48:11.000 What is the point of that?

03:48:13.000 That's part of it.

03:48:14.000 The other part is that it adds to a greater program that they're putting together which is called Treasure Map.

03:48:21.000 That's the one where they're going to be monitoring where you are every minute of the day.

03:48:25.000 So it's a physical tracker?

03:48:27.000 Yeah.

03:48:28.000 It's a contributor to that.

03:48:29.000 It's another aspect of it that they may pick up missing information that they didn't get from other sources, you know.

03:48:35.000 Sure.

03:48:37.000 Interlapping fields of fire.

03:48:38.000 In fact, that's what I was told by some insiders that are pretty high up, is that they also might want to bring in an internet kill switch during a civil emergency or martial law, and they're putting in an alternate government internet right now.

03:48:51.000 I think they've pretty much already had that all along.

03:48:54.000 Yes.

03:48:57.000 But they're going operational to command and control the local police.

03:49:00.000 Yeah.

03:49:01.000 That's another disturbing part, yeah.

03:49:03.000 Good God.

03:49:04.000 This takeover.

03:49:05.000 Hillary said, I want it to be a Manhattan Project to protect us from terrorists and the internet. 0.97

03:49:09.000 I've always called it a giant secret Manhattan Project takeover.

03:49:13.000 And now she's calling it that, sir.

03:49:15.000 Yeah.

03:49:17.000 Well, I think that's fundamentally what it is.

03:49:19.000 We're becoming a very effective police state.

03:49:24.000 Much more than any other totalitarian state or system has ever developed.

03:49:29.000 Absolutely.

03:49:30.000 Let's talk to Brandon in FEMA Region 3.

03:49:34.000 We've got about a minute and a half to break.

03:49:35.000 Go ahead with your question, Brandon, for William Benny.

03:49:39.000 Hey, I wanted to get Mr. Benny's opinion on the FBI, NSA, and even the CIA coming out and saying that they're tapping people's phones without warrants and that it's to protect us, but if But I actually know a cop who did it and had a warrant, and he was later indicted and thrown under the bus for it.

03:49:59.000 But if the feds do it, it's perfectly okay.

03:50:02.000 Can you maybe get into that and break down... Yeah, what about the hypocrisy of parallel construction and the rest of it, but if a local gets caught doing it, it's federal or state prison time?

03:50:12.000 Well, you know, it's the arrogance of the intelligence.

03:50:17.000 I mean, NSA, CIA, FBI are really at the core of this, just like they were at the core of the material that was used to impeach and indict Richard Nixon.

03:50:29.000 These are the main players in the central collection and acquisition and use of material, like all the emails, phone calls, financial transactions, and so on, that are being collected primarily by NSA.

03:50:43.000 They're becoming basically the central repository and processor for all this information.

03:50:48.000 But they've all been in it together from the beginning.

03:50:51.000 That goes back even to shortly after World War II when CIA and NSA were created.

03:50:58.000 Thank you, Brandon.

03:50:59.000 William Binney, stay there, sir.

03:51:00.000 Come back and finish that comment. 0.99

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03:54:07.000 Welcome back, folks.

03:54:13.000 Alex Jones here live.

03:54:17.000 Mr. Benny will be with us five minutes to the next hour, then I'm going to cover news and continue with your phone calls.

03:54:21.000 We have some special reports as well.

03:54:28.000 Folks, we know all the stuff that's happening is illegal.

03:54:31.000 We know it's been used everywhere else to oppress people.

03:54:34.000 There is a global race for surveillance by all these different countries and companies.

03:54:39.000 They've broken all the rules.

03:54:40.000 They've set up an economy based on gaming things, based on manipulation now.

03:54:44.000 The stock markets, the interest rates, it's all fake.

03:54:47.000 And it's ended the free market.

03:54:49.000 It's ending capitalism.

03:54:51.000 And then they're blaming capitalism for the standard of living beginning to slide.

03:54:56.000 No, this is like a rigged casino.

03:54:58.000 Casino's not capitalist.

03:55:00.000 It's a con game.

03:55:03.000 And the elites have no bottom now, it seems.

03:55:07.000 They'll do anything.

03:55:09.000 Because after all, Karl Rove said they control reality.

03:55:12.000 Hitler and Napoleon thought that too. 0.93

03:55:14.000 William Binney, former NSA technical director, is our guest.

03:55:18.000 We're taking phone calls for him right now.

03:55:20.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jeremy in Kansas.

03:55:25.000 Uh-oh, no, I'm sorry.

03:55:26.000 Mr. Binney got cut off by the break.

03:55:27.000 What was the point you were making, sir?

03:55:29.000 Well, it was just that they're so arrogant now about even violating all the fundamental principles of our country that they think they can get away with anything.

03:55:39.000 So, I mean, they don't seem to be afraid of anything, when in fact I think that's when we need to start standing up and making it clear that we're going to come after them for what they're doing.

03:55:50.000 That's right.

03:55:51.000 They want to normalize all their activities.

03:55:53.000 Jeremy in Kansas, go ahead.

03:55:55.000 Yes, amen to the theme of today's show, which is about moral courage, even or especially when it's scary and unpopular.

03:56:03.000 So I want to ask a question about our necessary political strategy to restore and rejuvenate our inherent natural rights by asserting that the precursor to moral courage is intellectual courage or epistemological courage, and that the way that we're going to overcome the falsified left-right paradigm and overcome the perception managers is by going to the heart of what is actually being used against us, which is terrorism, state-sponsored terrorism.

03:56:33.000 And to do, you know, we see the manifestation of this after September 11th rolling out in Paris and... Sure, let me get William Benny's take on that as we get to other callers, but it's a good point.

03:56:42.000 They're opening the borders, they're letting terrorists in bare minimum, they are stand-downs on 9-11, they are not letting the NSA do its job against real terrorists, it's constitutionally protected.

03:56:52.000 I mean, it's so obvious they're letting the terrorism take place to take our rights.

03:56:56.000 How do we shatter that paradigm?

03:56:58.000 It seems like we are, as it comes out, that the government's running ISIS.

03:57:02.000 Well, yeah, I think that exposure is certainly the key.

03:57:05.000 I think that's the sunlight part of it.

03:57:08.000 But that caller is absolutely right.

03:57:10.000 I mean, what they're doing is they're using, first of all, they say they have to do bulk acquisition and it buries their analyst.

03:57:15.000 They can't figure anything out.

03:57:17.000 They can't focus.

03:57:18.000 So that means That more terrorist attack occurs, and every time one does, they go into their data and they find out, oh yeah, we knew about these fellows, but they didn't do anything before to stop it, you see.

03:57:29.000 So they use now that terrorist attack to lobby for more money, more control, more information, more knowledge, for example.

03:57:37.000 I would point to the French and their example, their experience too.

03:57:40.000 I mean, the previous, earlier this year, the attack in Paris, That sponsored the acquisition of more money, more knowledge, more information, more analysts and so on for the French.

03:57:54.000 But it didn't do them any good, even though they had this bulk acquisition system there again.

03:57:58.000 Because again, their people could not focus. 1.00

03:58:00.000 And then another Paris attack occurs, you know.

03:58:03.000 And so now they're starting to do, this time it looks like they've changed their approach.

03:58:09.000 And they're focusing on what they know about people and using that, and that's a focused, disciplined attack.

03:58:15.000 They're profiling.

03:58:16.000 Yeah, they're doing basically, they're looking at the behavior, which is a profile, right, of people who do bad things.

03:58:24.000 And they've got all that information already, it's just that they aren't acting on it until after an attack.

03:58:29.000 Stay there, when we come back for a final segment, sir, we're honored for your time.

03:58:32.000 I want to take it to the next level, though.

03:58:35.000 The good people in government can't do anything because of the fog of all the data.

03:58:38.000 But the bad ones behind the scenes, they sent the feds down to stop the FBI from stopping the San Bernardino shooters two years ago.

03:58:47.000 So there's even more there.

03:58:48.000 They're actually protecting them at one level.

03:58:50.000 It's even worse.

03:58:52.000 Stay with us.

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Alex Jones Show - January 01, 2016

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