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00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:34.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show on this Monday, January the 4th, 2016.

00:00:39.000 It's the new year and we have a lot of new news, a lot of problems that have developed over the weekend.

00:00:46.000 And of course, we have been following, if you listened to the program yesterday, you heard us talking about the recent changes in Oregon with the Bundy brothers and the militia that are out there.

00:00:58.000 They went out there to support a family which basically did not want their support.

00:01:01.000 And so we're going to be talking about How that has escalated and changed, we have sent our crew out there.

00:01:07.000 Joe Biggs will be reporting.

00:01:09.000 They're on their way to the site, the federal facility that has been taken over by the people who were there to protest initially.

00:01:17.000 And we're going to take a look at how this is being used by the mainstream media, but we need to be on the ground here at this point.

00:01:24.000 I looked at this story, as I mentioned yesterday, As it started to develop back in October, they had the ruling.

00:01:30.000 Then in November, the Bundys got on this and were very concerned about what's going on.

00:01:34.000 We're going to give you some of the details.

00:01:35.000 You should be concerned at what happened to this family.

00:01:38.000 And if this type of thing had happened to me, I would want some protection and I would fight this.

00:01:43.000 But that's not their decision.

00:01:45.000 And we have to respect their decision.

00:01:47.000 And so I didn't really see anything to cover there.

00:01:50.000 Because you had people that wanted to go there, they went there, they tried to educate the people in the community to get them to stand around these people.

00:01:58.000 But at the core, they just wanted to quietly go back and serve additional jail time.

00:02:04.000 That's the fundamental issue.

00:02:06.000 However, after the protests went and after it looked like the local community, as well as the Hammonds who are going back to jail, looked like they did not want to protest any of this, they're afraid of the government.

00:02:18.000 They work with the government.

00:02:19.000 Over half of the community works for the government, the federal government.

00:02:23.000 And of course, the government owns over half of the land in Oregon.

00:02:27.000 It looks a lot like an Indian reservation, doesn't it?

00:02:30.000 Where the government owns everything, everybody is obliged to the government.

00:02:33.000 Of course, you know, those are just the people with jobs, half of them that work for the government.

00:02:36.000 The other people who don't have jobs are living off of the government.

00:02:40.000 That is what they have done to the Indians in the past. 1.00

00:02:43.000 When we talked about what happened at Wounded Knee, we talked about the similarities and the tactics of how the government has treated us.

00:02:50.000 And, of course, now it looks like we're going to have a Wounded Knee Part 3.

00:02:54.000 Don't know how that's going to turn out.

00:02:57.000 I understand the frustration.

00:02:58.000 I don't think that this is a good time to do this, of course, because today we have Obama starting to talk about his executive orders for gun control.

00:03:08.000 He's going to be given an hour on CNN to push for this, and don't you know that he's going to be focusing on this, saying this is a prime example of why citizens can't be trusted with guns.

00:03:20.000 We're also going to be talking about A lot of different news.

00:03:24.000 We've got information about what happened in Turkey as well as in Saudi Arabia over the weekend.

00:03:32.000 We had in Saudi Arabia 47 people executed right after the beginning of the new year.

00:03:38.000 I know they were waiting so they didn't set a new Guinness Book of Records for the number of people beheaded in a given year.

00:03:44.000 And of course, these are people that were labeled terrorists, just like these ranchers were labeled terrorists by the BLM.

00:03:49.000 That's a favorite label.

00:03:51.000 Let's go to Alex Jones right now.

00:03:53.000 He's calling in.

00:03:54.000 He's on the road.

00:03:54.000 Alex, go ahead.

00:03:55.000 That's right, David.

00:03:57.000 I just filed a very powerful 10-minute report that is being uploaded to you.

00:04:01.000 I just finished it minutes ago, a little bit late.

00:04:04.000 Uh, that will break down basically everything we're starting to get into.

00:04:07.000 This is a very important time.

00:04:09.000 This is the main push to get our guns.

00:04:11.000 And folks, with this new situation out in Oregon, we do not want to do any favors for Obama that gives him the background to come after the guns and legitimize what he's doing.

00:04:23.000 And he's doing this with executive power.

00:04:24.000 This is really about the executive power grab, so that in a few months, the word is, they're going to have even more draconian executive actions on guns.

00:04:34.000 So this is the opening sound vote, and I break down the fact that absolutely the feds are stealing land, absolutely they're out of control, absolutely they're Wallace, absolutely under the Declaration of Independence.

00:04:45.000 You should be able to, you know, stand up to this.

00:04:47.000 I get what these people are doing, but you have a wide open building.

00:04:51.000 With saying, come from all over the country no matter who you are, guaranteed provocateurs are showing up and other things are happening. 0.73

00:04:59.000 The whole Soros group is saying, here are our white terrorists, here are our cowboy hat-wearing terrorists.

00:05:05.000 It gives them the backdrop saying, they want to start a civil war.

00:05:09.000 At least 20 armed militia members, including three members of the Bundy family, have seized control of a federal building at the Milor National Wildlife Refuge about 50 miles southeast of Burns, Oregon.

00:05:19.000 The occupation is in response to the persecution of two Oregon ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr.

00:05:23.000 and Stephen Hammond, who were convicted of a federal arson charge under an anti-terrorism law.

00:05:27.000 In 2006, the Hammonds started a controlled burn to stop the spread of a lightning storm fire, which threatened their ranch.

00:05:33.000 The backfire saved their home and much of their property, but five years later the federal government, particularly the Bureau of Land Management, claimed the Hammonds were terrorists who started the fire to damage federally controlled land.

00:05:43.000 The feds sent Dwight and Stephen to prison and are threatening to take their 12,000 acre property if they do not pay the BLM $200,000.

00:05:51.000 InfoWars reporter Joe Biggs and other crew members will be on the scene giving live updates.

00:05:55.000 You can also follow Alex Jones on Facebook and the Alex Jones channel on YouTube for the latest developments on the situation.

00:06:02.000 And check back on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv for more news and this is Kit Daniels reporting.

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00:08:07.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:08:23.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:28.000 Thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen, as we broadcast worldwide on this Monday, the first weekday show of 2018.

00:08:42.000 Again, thank you so much for joining us.

00:08:47.000 I am in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:08:50.000 And I'm going to start conducting an interview in about an hour with a very, very important individual, especially when it comes to stopping any type of civil insurrection or George Soros plan, the Black Lives Matter issues in this country.

00:09:07.000 I'm working around the clock trying to stop the globalists from foiling the political process in this country and our attempts to basically save this republic.

00:09:16.000 And so are a lot of other people.

00:09:18.000 Coming up at the bottom of the hour, I filed an 11-minute report that will be premiering here.

00:09:25.000 I just finished it about 15 minutes ago.

00:09:27.000 David Knight is going to be hosting the first three hours.

00:09:30.000 And Paul Joseph Watson will be joining us from London, England in the fourth hour.

00:09:36.000 Obviously, the stock market is plunging right now as we go into the new year.

00:09:40.000 Obviously, huge big developments in the Middle East that David Knight is going to be covering.

00:09:44.000 But remember, I've been totally warning And so is the rest of my research crew, that obviously the big foundations, the big organizations are funding the racist movement, Black Lives Matter, that is meant to divide and conquer the country. 0.85

00:10:00.000 Obviously there's major police problems as well, but as discredited as this group is, it just legitimizes all that and allows the globalist federalization of the police as a response to it via these quote, strong cities, UN initiative.

00:10:15.000 They have been trying to provocateur and infiltrate patriotic militia groups and others forever.

00:10:21.000 And whenever I would learn that a militia group was infiltrated, I'd talk about it 15, 16, 17 years ago, and I would get demonized by the usual suspects, but it turned out were federal informants or were actually federal agents or were CIA national security agents like Hal Turner, who was their own guy, but they still burned him.

00:10:39.000 I've been doing this for a long time, and they always stand up and say, there's no provocateurs, there's no feds anywhere that try to stir stuff up.

00:10:46.000 That doesn't exist.

00:10:47.000 Alex is a fed.

00:10:48.000 Alex is a fed.

00:10:50.000 This is what they do.

00:10:52.000 Now, I believe the Bundys are good, well-meaning, strong people overall, and the feds are stealing property everywhere.

00:10:59.000 It is part of the UN agenda 21.

00:11:01.000 It is wrong.

00:11:02.000 It is evil.

00:11:04.000 Okay, so I understand what's happening.

00:11:06.000 They're peaceful.

00:11:07.000 It's an empty building.

00:11:09.000 It's to create a stand, you know, like the Alamo, peaceably, hopefully, where people point out what's happening is wrong, and then they think if they get killed there, it'll be like the Alamo, and that'll set off the whole thing that'll save the country.

00:11:21.000 Folks, the globalists want a physical fight because they think they can win that easier than an information war.

00:11:27.000 We'll win a physical fight long term.

00:11:29.000 I've looked at the history of it, looked at all the angles.

00:11:32.000 But we don't want to go that direction.

00:11:34.000 We are going to win the info war.

00:11:35.000 And then if they want to start a war or false flag and try to blame it on us and come arrest patriots, then it kicks off.

00:11:41.000 But we are not offensive.

00:11:43.000 We are defensive.

00:11:45.000 And I understand they're taking land and doing all this.

00:11:48.000 The problem is the Hammonds have said they don't want the Bundy people there.

00:11:52.000 Now let's get past all that.

00:11:55.000 This is not, this is not the grazing rights like we had a few years ago, where the family's been there since 1878, 1877.

00:12:02.000 100% grazing rights.

00:12:03.000 The feds come in, kick 34 other families off.

00:12:07.000 They're the last family standing.

00:12:08.000 They were totally on the right. 0.95

00:12:09.000 David Knight was there with Josh Owens, literally, while the feds were saying, we're going to shoot you, we're going to shoot you, if you cross the line.

00:12:16.000 And they bravely, like combat reporters, got that footage.

00:12:20.000 We should re-air that historic footage today, that historic report.

00:12:24.000 I'd have David narrate the parts that aren't good for radio today.

00:12:27.000 That is so important.

00:12:29.000 Would that be re-seen?

00:12:30.000 They were there.

00:12:30.000 They were on horseback.

00:12:31.000 They weren't aiming their guns at the feds.

00:12:33.000 The feds were aiming their guns at them.

00:12:35.000 They were absolutely in the right.

00:12:37.000 It was the real John Wayne.

00:12:38.000 It's what John Wayne wishes he was.

00:12:40.000 This was true Americana. 0.89

00:12:42.000 So I admire these folks.

00:12:43.000 But at the same time, you don't just mindlessly then support the next operation without saying, my First Amendment right.

00:12:50.000 Hey, this is the day Obama launches the gun grab.

00:12:53.000 Hey, this is what they keep telling the local police and sheriff's departments is going to happen and why they're giving them armored vehicles.

00:12:58.000 Hey, we should think for ourselves here.

00:13:01.000 Hey, is this the best timing?

00:13:02.000 Because you're not wanted by the local.

00:13:05.000 And you've seen in Oregon, sheriffs saying, get ready for the war with the Patriots the last few years and all this provocateuring.

00:13:11.000 I'm telling you, folks, I'm telling you.

00:13:15.000 There's agitation going on, 110%, just like with the Black Lives Matter. 0.98

00:13:19.000 And notice Black Lives Matter went into action yesterday, saying, this is white terror, time to take the guns.

00:13:25.000 The militias are coming.

00:13:26.000 We want the National Guard.

00:13:27.000 We want war. 0.98

00:13:28.000 We want this to happen.

00:13:30.000 This is to change the subject from Obama offensively coming to get our guns and trying to blame San Bernardino on patriots, to then flip it and say, see, there's an armed takeover of a federal building right now.

00:13:42.000 We got to do something.

00:13:44.000 So, I'm telling you, the timing is out of control, and I understand there's been demonstrations going on there for years, and then magically, this happened at this point. 0.96

00:13:56.000 I mean, folks, Papa didn't, Mama didn't raise a fool, and I don't think the Bundys are bad. 0.99

00:14:00.000 I don't think most of the militia people are bad. 0.66

00:14:02.000 I don't think any of these folks are bad, except for some of the things that are being said and pushed that overall basically gets this situation out of control.

00:14:14.000 Out of control.

00:14:15.000 And those of us that are seeking to try to fix this peacefully know that in 1995, a whole bunch of state houses were moving in 94 and 95 to get us out of the UN, to take the private property back, to abolish the BLM, to kick them off land.

00:14:29.000 We had 20 plus states.

00:14:31.000 Patriots, remember this.

00:14:33.000 We had 20 plus states that had voted to basically control the federal government and stop the UN takeover, and then Oklahoma City happened.

00:14:40.000 We've got multiple governors like Greg Abbott coming out over the weekend saying, come and take it.

00:14:44.000 The state will stand against you trying to take guns.

00:14:47.000 We've got sheriffs and police chiefs standing and saying the right thing.

00:14:49.000 We've got police departments saying the right thing.

00:14:52.000 We've got good stuff in Congress.

00:14:53.000 We've got promises in Congress to repeal any of these executive orders immediately and slap them down.

00:14:59.000 We've got Obamacare. 0.96

00:15:01.000 With the legislation introduced to repeal it, about to pass the House.

00:15:04.000 We have got so many exciting things to happen right now.

00:15:08.000 Donald Trump, the whole nine yards.

00:15:10.000 We are trying to bring the Republic back as best we can.

00:15:13.000 And the Soros types that have done this in countless countries like Ukraine and other areas want civil insurrection.

00:15:20.000 They want civil unrest.

00:15:21.000 They want us fighting with each other at each other's throats.

00:15:24.000 And the feds keep pushing and pushing and pushing to try to trigger this.

00:15:28.000 And that's why I'm calling for everybody to be cool.

00:15:30.000 That's why I'm calling for everybody to focus on what they're doing because as more people arrive out there, and Joe Biggs is about to be on screen there today reporting, as all of this unfolds,

00:15:42.000 We need to understand that the establishment wins if things get violent and so it's very important to have a lot of cameras there to document everything that's unfolding so that hopefully if there's any provocateurs or troublemakers, you know, the sun comes up this morning, you know, fish swim in the sea, I mean you know it's going to be a magnet for this, then we need to take action to document it and to make sure the system can't spin this because folks,

00:16:08.000 I've had them try to set me up with the Kill Michelle Malcolm stuff, and thank God we got footage that it was her operatives doing it. 0.94

00:16:13.000 Not against Michelle Malcolm, but she did it, it's on video.

00:16:16.000 I've had them try to set me up literally hundreds of times with similar things, with things I didn't do, or things I didn't say, or fake videos, supposedly, of what, I mean, I know the tricks, folks.

00:16:26.000 But what counters that is having our own footage and having our people on the ground.

00:16:32.000 So pray for Joe Biggs.

00:16:33.000 Uh, and the rest of the crew, uh, uh, David Knight's son, Travis, is out there on the ground.

00:16:38.000 Uh, so just pray for them.

00:16:39.000 I'm gonna go ahead and hand this back to David Knight for the rest of the segment, the next, then my special report breaking this down, uh, at the 33 after.

00:16:46.000 Please tell your friends and family to tune into the broadcast and, and just understand they're coming for the Second Amendment.

00:16:51.000 They're coming for the First Amendment. 0.92

00:16:52.000 They're coming for it all, but we don't want them to push us into moving first.

00:16:58.000 This is a key time.

00:16:59.000 This could become 1776 Part 2.

00:17:01.000 You're living it.

00:17:02.000 We know the enemy's game plan.

00:17:04.000 Let's not just stumble into their traps.

00:17:06.000 Let's use the fact that we have their blueprint to absolutely defeat them at every level and pray for providence.

00:17:11.000 David Knight at the InfoWars News Center.

00:17:14.000 Thank you, Alex, and of course we're going to have that special report from Alex at the bottom of the hour.

00:17:17.000 We're also going to be joined by Lionel in the next hour, and we're going to take a look at some of the crazy things that have been happening this year.

00:17:24.000 There's actually some things that are kind of funny in all of this serious news, so we'll be going over that with Lionel.

00:17:32.000 A little bit of, I guess you could call it, graveyard humor as we look at some of these things coming at us.

00:17:39.000 But when we look at what's going on out here, we look at, there's an article on Infowars.com that was picked up by Drudge, by Paul Joseph Watson, the Oregon standoff could boost Obama's gun control push, and of course it could. 0.64

00:17:50.000 That's exactly, the timing is absolutely perfect.

00:17:54.000 But I think that there is, there are other issues going on with this as well, and that's why it's very important that you look at something like this, not only tactically, but strategically.

00:18:06.000 You know, I think this is a very bad idea, as I pointed out yesterday when I was on the radio.

00:18:11.000 You're going to lose the moral high ground.

00:18:13.000 I think this is a bad tactic, a bad strategy.

00:18:16.000 It's bad PR.

00:18:17.000 Okay?

00:18:18.000 They're going to lose this moral high ground.

00:18:19.000 Understand, when Pearl Harbor happened, and we pointed this out on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor, Very well documented that the US had broken the codes of the Japanese at that time.

00:18:29.000 They knew precisely what was going on.

00:18:31.000 They stood down at the top levels to allow that to happen.

00:18:34.000 That's how important it was for them.

00:18:36.000 They would sacrifice most of the Navy, all the battleships, so that they could have the moral high ground, so they could Be in a defensive war, rather than be seen as the aggressor.

00:18:47.000 That is what's very important about this.

00:18:49.000 That is where people have lost sight of this.

00:18:51.000 And I want to play a clip from Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes, the leader there, talking about what happened with this, leading up to it, even before the takeover.

00:19:00.000 And of course, with the takeover of the federal building, things have changed.

00:19:03.000 That's why we sent our reporters out there.

00:19:05.000 First of all, what Cliven Bundy said.

00:19:07.000 He said, if the Hammonds won't stand up for their rights, if the sheriff and the county commissioners won't stand up for their rights, the people who are there as protesters, as patriots, they don't have anybody to fight.

00:19:18.000 And yes, it was a legitimate thing to go there and to protest the injustice that was being done to this family.

00:19:22.000 I have another great article from Kurt Nimmo pointing out why these people were targeted.

00:19:28.000 It's because the federal government wants to steal their land.

00:19:31.000 We've seen this story over and over again.

00:19:33.000 We had an excellent article from Kurt Nemo yesterday, we talked about it on the news, talking about the constitutional background of the land grabs.

00:19:41.000 And so with this, he talks about this particular case.

00:19:44.000 We see this happening over and over again.

00:19:47.000 But when we come back, we're going to play a clip from Stuart Rhodes essentially saying the same thing that Clive and Bundy said.

00:19:53.000 And the reason why we didn't cover this other than the issues until we've got this takeover.

00:19:59.000 Now this is playing into the hands not only for gun control, but also for what may happen when we face a pending economic collapse as we see the stock market going down.

00:20:08.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

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00:24:06.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:24:17.000 I'm David Knight, your host on this Monday, January the 4th, 2016.

00:24:21.000 I want to get back to this standoff, and I want to give you a broader context of what's happening right now in the economic situation.

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00:25:12.000 Now, as we look at what's going on, of course, the context that we need to be aware of, and I wish that these people who are there, I believe the Bundys are acting in good faith.

00:25:23.000 I don't believe that everybody there necessarily is.

00:25:25.000 We always have agent provocateurs whenever you've got something like this, whether it's a Black Lives Protest matter.

00:25:31.000 I mean that whole organization was heavily funded by George Soros operatives.

00:25:36.000 There are a lot of people who are well-meaning in that.

00:25:37.000 A lot of people are concerned about police brutality and violence and making sure that we get back to a more civil policing stance towards the public.

00:25:49.000 But you always have the possibility that agent provocateurs are going to take something over.

00:25:53.000 Whenever you have a protest in Ferguson, you always have the possibility that somebody is going to... You've got peaceful protesters out there.

00:25:58.000 We covered that many times.

00:25:59.000 We were there quite a bit.

00:26:01.000 Joe Biggs, Jakari Jackson, reporters were there.

00:26:04.000 And you had peaceful protesters who really wanted to see things structurally change.

00:26:08.000 They were shut down when you had agent provocateurs go out and start literally throwing firebombs, burning buildings down.

00:26:15.000 And of course we had people who would Go there, Oath Keepers, who would protect businesses who asked for their help.

00:26:21.000 And we're going to play a clip from Stuart Rhodes to talk about how this particular situation is different.

00:26:26.000 This is something he recorded on January the 1st before the takeover of that federal building.

00:26:32.000 But before we get to that, I just want to talk about what's going on economically, because that's another context.

00:26:38.000 Certainly today, Obama is going to have a one-hour dog-and-pony show with CNN selling the idea that he should do gun control by executive action.

00:26:47.000 But of course we know that our government has been preparing for a financial meltdown.

00:26:50.000 We've been having the police militarized, we've been having military assets pre-positioned throughout the country in small town police departments.

00:26:59.000 I know it's something that they're very worried about, very concerned about.

00:27:03.000 And when we look at the New Year kicking off, we've got a 423 point decline as I last looked at.

00:27:09.000 That's about a 2.4% decline in the Dow.

00:27:12.000 And here's the interesting thing.

00:27:13.000 It was driven by a collapse in the Chinese stock market.

00:27:18.000 And we don't know how far that would have gone.

00:27:20.000 It went down 7% for the day.

00:27:23.000 Because it activated a new circuit breaker.

00:27:25.000 So the first day that they have a circuit breaker for plunging stock market, it gets triggered in China.

00:27:31.000 And of course that is because orders are declining.

00:27:34.000 People are very concerned about a depression.

00:27:36.000 And that's supposedly the reason why the Federal Reserve was doing this quantitative easing.

00:27:41.000 Putting out a, printing a great deal of money, putting it out there at 0% interest rate, and yet that money did not find its way into the economy, interestingly enough.

00:27:50.000 We've got another article, and this is back on Christmas Eve.

00:27:53.000 I think it's worthwhile going back and looking at this.

00:27:55.000 The Federal Reserve will pay banks $12 billion minimum in 2016.

00:28:00.000 This is Jared Bilker, one of the Fed watchers in the business, wrote, in 2016, the Federal Reserve will pay at least $12.2 billion to U.S.

00:28:07.000 and foreign bankers to keep the money created via its quantitative easing program out of the economy.

00:28:14.000 Out of the economy.

00:28:15.000 See, they're paying them money, they're paying them interest to keep this on deposit.

00:28:20.000 The Fed raises rates as expected next year.

00:28:23.000 The amount doubles to $23 billion.

00:28:26.000 And they point out, never before have we seen this kind of stimulus go on for so long.

00:28:31.000 In other words, create such a large bubble, and now they're ready to bust the bubble.

00:28:36.000 Remember what happened in 2008.

00:28:37.000 We'd seen a very long period of time where the Fed, under Greenspan, had continually reduced interest rates.

00:28:43.000 And then they began tiny little increases, each of them a little pinprick on this balloon until it burst.

00:28:49.000 They've now begun that.

00:28:51.000 So we don't really know how that's going to play out.

00:28:53.000 We already see that the world economy, as measured from China, where most of the manufacturing has moved, is going down.

00:29:01.000 So, when we look at this, And we look at the fact that they're pushing for executive order gun control and of course executive orders to bring in a massive number of new workers.

00:29:11.000 That's another executive order that Obama has been pushing through.

00:29:15.000 They are printing up millions, millions of green cards.

00:29:19.000 I think the total, I've got it in my list here, I think it's 34 million that they look to do in the next, yes, 34 million blank green cards and work permits are going to be ordered.

00:29:30.000 Now that's the context of where this is going.

00:29:32.000 And when we come back from break, we're going to have Alex Jones with a report, don't help Obama take the guns.

00:29:39.000 They want to get the guns because they're worried about domestic unrest.

00:29:42.000 And this gives them a perfect backdrop.

00:29:45.000 We don't need to be using this type of tactic, this type of strategy.

00:29:49.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march.

00:29:59.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:30:02.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:30:05.000 In response to President Obama's plan to enact gun control through executive order, Texas Governor Greg Abbott said, come and take it.

00:30:18.000 Abbott tweeted out, quote, Obama wants to impose more gun control.

00:30:22.000 My response, come and take it.

00:30:24.000 The president will meet with Attorney General Laurie Lynch to discuss what executive actions he's going to take to infringe the Second Amendment while bypassing Congress.

00:30:32.000 The word is he's going to try and prevent people on the government's no-fly list from being able to purchase firearms.

00:30:37.000 But, as we previously reported, thousands of law-abiding Americans have been wrongly placed on the no-fly list due to false information, clerical errors, or political persecution.

00:30:48.000 In fact, it violates the Fifth Amendment's guarantee of due process by allowing the government to deprive people of their rights based only on suspicion.

00:30:55.000 In other words, Obama wants to dictatorially restrict the Second Amendment rights of thousands of Americans.

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00:33:07.000 Music Music Music Music Music Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order.

00:33:22.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:27.000 Music Music Music Music Ladies and gentlemen, don't let Obama be successful when it comes to starting civil unrest and riots in this country.

00:33:43.000 They will use that as a civil emergency to bring in a type of soft martial law like Europe has done after they brought in all the jihadis and allowed them to attack.

00:33:55.000 The stage is set for classical martial law in the United States.

00:33:58.000 George Soros, who's overthrown many other countries using similar divide-and-conquer tactics, is on record funding Black Lives Matter and other groups, and the mainstream media is trying to exacerbate tension in local communities.

00:34:11.000 And out of this crisis, they intend to bring in the quote, strong cities UN initiative that globalizes, internationalizes local government.

00:34:22.000 It's political correctness intimidating people to submit to this international takeover.

00:34:28.000 Now, it's been known for a long time and it's come out in federal court that many of the militias, though they're constitutional and made up of great people, end up getting infiltrated and led in many cases by federal provocateur or even worse by foundation provocateurs like the Southern Poverty Law Center that ran Ellingham City where the reported Oklahoma City bombing got hatched which we know was an inside job major false flag.

00:34:54.000 2016 is here, ladies and gentlemen.

00:34:57.000 It is already the fourth.

00:34:59.000 And all hell is breaking loose in the stock market, militarily overseas, so many issues.

00:35:05.000 And the establishment is going to want a political diversion here in America. 0.96

00:35:08.000 And they've been putting out the talking points that white terrorists are about to start attacking, that white terrorists are about to be involved in insurrection. 0.88

00:35:16.000 While pushing the military, pushing veterans, pushing citizens of all race, colors, and creeds with more and more federal occupation, more and more federal tyranny. 0.97

00:35:25.000 So let's be clear.

00:35:27.000 We're about to go in here and show you some of the articles here in a moment.

00:35:30.000 The Bundys and others have very legitimate issues with the federal power grab over land outside of law.

00:35:35.000 And people doing controlled burns and being called arsonists and people being charged.

00:35:40.000 The federal government is power grabbing everywhere.

00:35:42.000 It's true.

00:35:43.000 It's lawless.

00:35:43.000 It's shutting down power plants outside of law.

00:35:46.000 It's opening borders outside of law.

00:35:48.000 It's funding ISIS and Al-Qaeda outside of law.

00:35:50.000 But all that's coming out.

00:35:52.000 And the establishment is in political trouble right now.

00:35:55.000 So they want to overturn the chessboard right now.

00:35:58.000 We need Americans to realize we're all being played off against each other.

00:36:02.000 And to watch the weaponized media.

00:36:05.000 on MSNBC and other places.

00:36:07.000 Absolutely promoting race war in this country is out of control.

00:36:10.000 That's why I'm here in Phoenix, and I'll tell you later in the broadcast, David Nightwell, who I'm interviewing, a key individual to hopefully work with to try to calm tensions and try to bring America together if it's possible.

00:36:22.000 I mean, that's how serious the situation is, is that I'm working around the clock.

00:36:25.000 I know a lot of people that are good inside the Pentagon that are working around the clock, good people in the Secret Service, but good people at the grassroots level of every race, color, and creed, liberal, conservative, libertarian, Muslim, you name it, who understand the larger globalist program for destabilization.

00:36:41.000 We all have differences.

00:36:42.000 We all have real beefs with each other.

00:36:43.000 Nothing's perfect.

00:36:45.000 Okay, and America has a lot of problems.

00:36:46.000 But the globalists want to use those problems to basically bring it down into a truly fascistic system of total control.

00:36:53.000 Let's go inside and look at some of these articles.

00:36:55.000 Right here.

00:37:01.000 CNN to provide an hour of airtime to Obama's gun control pitch today.

00:37:06.000 Town Hall, full pitch, and what it's really about is executive power outside of law.

00:37:11.000 Then the even more hardcore gun control, I predict, is coming after this, but this is unprecedented.

00:37:17.000 The Hammonds, excellent article by Kurt Nemo, targeted because government wants to steal their land.

00:37:22.000 The entire story by Kurt Nemo of how they stole the land, how they're stealing other people's land.

00:37:27.000 How it's criminal, how it's wrong, how they've persecuted them.

00:37:32.000 Absolutely, they've been wronged.

00:37:34.000 Absolutely.

00:37:35.000 My issue is the timing of this now allows the whole debate to not be about the gun grab, to not be about all the gun control, to not be about the victim disarmament, but to be about citizens with guns taking over buildings.

00:37:48.000 It's an empty wildlife refuge building.

00:37:51.000 The Feds are grabbing everybody's property in the area.

00:37:53.000 They're the ones with armed force out of control.

00:37:55.000 But again, it's the federal government, not even the Feds on the ground that are the problem.

00:37:59.000 It's the whole UN agenda 21.

00:38:01.000 But read that article, you'll understand it.

00:38:03.000 Then the other perspective.

00:38:06.000 People are asking me, well why are you pro-Bundy and then anti-Bundy?

00:38:09.000 We're not.

00:38:10.000 We're showing both sides.

00:38:12.000 And Paul Watts has written an article that's on DrugsReport.com, Oregon standoff.

00:38:17.000 Could boost Obama's gun control push. 0.56

00:38:19.000 I started saying this yesterday.

00:38:21.000 As soon as we had the news early in the morning, this had started Saturday night.

00:38:24.000 Curt Demond had already written about it Saturday night.

00:38:26.000 And obviously by the time I looked it up, they were already blaming the Second Amendment.

00:38:29.000 It's obvious.

00:38:31.000 It's the timing of this.

00:38:33.000 Plus, the Hammonds say they don't want the Bundys there. 0.99

00:38:33.000 Okay? 0.99

00:38:36.000 That's another problem.

00:38:37.000 It was the grazing rights of the Bundys in Southern Nevada. 0.88

00:38:41.000 That's why we supported them.

00:38:42.000 They were in the right completely.

00:38:45.000 Okay?

00:38:46.000 Continuing.

00:38:46.000 Liberal media tweets call for National Guard cops to confront the wildlife refuge occupiers.

00:38:54.000 Many liberals want Waco-style response to government. 0.99

00:38:56.000 They want them killed. 1.00

00:38:57.000 See, it's all about race war. 0.99

00:38:59.000 These are the Soros White House operatives already trying to make this racial.

00:39:03.000 It has nothing to do with race.

00:39:05.000 We're literally walking into their trap, and you know There's provocateurs there on the ground.

00:39:10.000 Probably not even from the FBI, but from the big foundations.

00:39:14.000 Just like we exposed Hal Turner and others.

00:39:17.000 So continuing, the article is up on Infowars.com.

00:39:19.000 You want the real breakdown of what's happening, there it is.

00:39:23.000 Continuing, you heard this.

00:39:24.000 This is the talking point just a few weeks ago.

00:39:26.000 MSNBC. 0.99

00:39:27.000 White terrorists. 0.98

00:39:28.000 Not San Bernardino terrorists. 1.00

00:39:30.000 Not Islamic terrorists. 1.00

00:39:31.000 White terrorists are the problem. 1.00

00:39:34.000 Yet, you look at the data. 1.00

00:39:36.000 Of white men with guns wreaking havoc on this country? 0.51

00:39:40.000 Why aren't white men all coming forward? 0.97

00:39:42.000 Why don't you call on them to do that? 0.98

00:39:44.000 Boom, so it's all white men, they're the ones wreaking havoc even though statistically it's one of the lowest crime rates out there. 1.00

00:39:49.000 Meanwhile, radical Muslims invade churches, throwing Christians out and beating them up in Germany. 0.98

00:39:55.000 Articles, mainstream news, link in the article in fullwords.com.

00:39:59.000 So that's what's really unfolding here.

00:40:01.000 And then meanwhile, they want to distract from coming after our guns.

00:40:04.000 They want to distract from the stock market plunging 450 plus points.

00:40:09.000 They want to distract from all the things that are happening with this, quote, armed takeover that's happening.

00:40:16.000 The FBI says they seek a peaceful end.

00:40:18.000 Armed group vows to stay at Oregon refuge.

00:40:22.000 This is again an unfolding situation that we will be breaking down in great detail.

00:40:29.000 Meanwhile, we've got machete-wielding man vandalizes mosque, leaves bacon at the door.

00:40:34.000 This is part of the artificial clash of civilizations that Dick Cheney wrote about in the PNAC documents back in 2000.

00:40:44.000 Rebuilding America's defenses, Project for the American Century.

00:40:47.000 They said, we're going to help radicalize Muslims, get them funding, do all this stuff.

00:40:51.000 You know, we need a big catalyzing attack in the West.

00:40:54.000 This transcends administrations.

00:40:55.000 The Democrats do it too.

00:40:57.000 We're going to use this crisis then to invade the world, create a Pax Americana.

00:41:01.000 But the real betrayal is it's not even a Pax Americana, an American empire.

00:41:06.000 It's a globalist empire that we get to blame for.

00:41:08.000 We get sucked dry and then we collapse.

00:41:10.000 So that's the breakdown.

00:41:12.000 David Knight's coming up with more a little bit later in the broadcast.

00:41:16.000 We will tell you exactly why I'm here in Phoenix once the interview is underway for security reasons.

00:41:22.000 It's great to have so many wonderful listeners out there, but I mentioned I was flying to Phoenix yesterday before I took off, and there were folks at the airport waiting for us, which was great to see them.

00:41:30.000 It's just that obviously the show is so giant now that not everybody out there listening are good guys.

00:41:36.000 So again, Alex Jones signing off for InfoWars.com.

00:41:39.000 Paul Watson's hosting the fourth hour today.

00:41:41.000 Back to David Knight in the InfoWars News Center.

00:41:44.000 I'll be hosting the show tomorrow.

00:41:46.000 From Phoenix, Arizona.

00:41:48.000 But back to David Knight and the Infowars News Center.

00:41:51.000 Let's work together to try to stop what could brew into a controlled civil war to bring in a civil emergency.

00:41:57.000 Let's keep the focus on the fact they're coming after our guns.

00:42:00.000 Let's keep the focus on the fact they're opening our borders.

00:42:02.000 Let's do like the governor said, come and take it from Texas.

00:42:05.000 Governor Abbott over the weekend.

00:42:08.000 You know, with state authorities saying no, that's what we need.

00:42:12.000 Not these takeovers of an empty building that's perfect for the feds from all over the country to now infiltrate, stir stuff up, God knows do what.

00:42:21.000 I mean, it's textbook.

00:42:23.000 And anybody saying we shouldn't watch out for infiltrators, anybody saying we shouldn't be concerned for people calling for violence or unrest or civil disobedience is major league suspect. 0.98

00:42:33.000 They're either as dumb as the day is long, Or they are playing to somebody else's tune, ladies and gentlemen. 0.97

00:42:42.000 1776 is an idea. 1.00

00:42:43.000 We're winning the Info War right now. 0.90

00:42:45.000 We do not want this to get physical, but if it does, let them shoot first.

00:42:49.000 If they mean to have a battle, you know, as they famously said at Bunker Hill, then they'll let it start here today.

00:42:54.000 Well, it already has started in the Info War.

00:42:56.000 We're winning.

00:42:57.000 Let's not give the big foundations in Soros and the Southern Primary Law Center and ADL what they want.

00:43:02.000 They say the big war with Patriots is coming.

00:43:04.000 They say they've given them the armored vehicles and that they're going to have war with us any minute.

00:43:08.000 Let's not light the fuse for them, folks.

00:43:11.000 Let's document everything that's happening.

00:43:13.000 They'll undoubtedly are going to pull false flags.

00:43:15.000 It's the season for it.

00:43:16.000 It's in the cards.

00:43:17.000 It's the right time for them to do it.

00:43:18.000 I get in their mind and kind of look at what they would do.

00:43:20.000 We need to be working hard to stop any terror attacks, working hard to frustrate them provocatory.

00:43:25.000 But also, if something does happen, we need cameras there instantly to document everything.

00:43:32.000 You are troops in the battle for this republic.

00:43:35.000 You are troops for humanity's future freedom worldwide.

00:43:38.000 No matter who you are, get involved.

00:43:40.000 Realize how important you are.

00:43:41.000 Realize how much you're needed in your corner of the world.

00:43:45.000 To be watching and to be listening and to be taking action.

00:43:48.000 And when you see something like a foreign global takeover of America, when you see them destroying our liberties and spying on us and forced inoculations, when you see something tyrannical, when you see them land grabbing, when you see them teaching kids their parents aren't their parents in public schools, when you see tyranny, say something. 0.83

00:44:03.000 We are saying something.

00:44:05.000 InfoWars.com.

00:44:07.000 And that was Alex Jones with his report on what's coming on.

00:44:07.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:44:10.000 And tonight, of course, CNN is going to be providing one hour of airtime to Obama to sell his gun control.

00:44:17.000 It's going to be at George Mason University, a one-hour live town hall before a live audience.

00:44:23.000 And they have a report about this on InfoWars by Steve Watson.

00:44:27.000 He says CNN has stated that Obama will attempt to, quote, make gun control part of his legacy.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, he's got a 2016 wish list, alright.

00:44:34.000 And of course, CBS News reported on this.

00:44:37.000 He's been working with Climate Change.

00:44:40.000 They just got that treaty approved in one way, one form or the other.

00:44:45.000 And of course, the Republican Congress rushed to fund it.

00:44:49.000 At first when they signed that accord and said, yeah, we're on board with these goals, the Republicans said, well, we'll have something to say about that.

00:44:56.000 Yeah, they did have something to say about that.

00:44:57.000 They immediately rubber stamped that.

00:44:59.000 And of course, there's also the Trans-Pacific Partnership that he's going to ram through this year.

00:45:03.000 CBS says that they think that'll happen as soon as February the 4th.

00:45:07.000 And then there is gun control executive action.

00:45:10.000 Those are the three things that he wants to do.

00:45:11.000 Oh, wait a minute.

00:45:12.000 There's something else, too.

00:45:13.000 He wants to continue to open our borders to uncontrolled immigration.

00:45:18.000 And to that extent, they have printed up 34 million green cards.

00:45:23.000 That's what the contractors have done.

00:45:25.000 But let's just take a look at this particular gun control thing, because this is what he's focusing on right now.

00:45:30.000 And of course this, as Steve Watson points out, whether purposely or not, it coincides with the fifth anniversary of the shooting of former representative Gabrielle Giffords in an incident in Arizona that killed six others.

00:45:43.000 Now they say that, he says in this article, he says, previous CNN events of this nature have been firmly partisan affairs.

00:45:49.000 You think?

00:45:50.000 You think it's going to be partisan?

00:45:51.000 Of course it is.

00:45:52.000 A recent CNN town hall with Hillary Clinton featured an audience full of her supporters throwing softballs clearly designed to bolster her policies.

00:46:00.000 Kids coming up with little questions that somebody had written out for them just like we saw done with the Pope pushing that climate agenda.

00:46:08.000 This is ironically going to be held at George Mason University.

00:46:13.000 George Mason.

00:46:14.000 Let's talk about the real George Mason.

00:46:16.000 You know, just like we've got the real Rick Ross, and then we've got a phony Rick Ross.

00:46:22.000 Well, the real George Mason said this about guns.

00:46:25.000 He said, to disarm the people is the most effective way to enslave them.

00:46:30.000 And of course, George Mason was a delegate to the Constitutional Convention.

00:46:33.000 When we look at the founders, it's important to understand the context of what they were writing about when they wrote things like the Second Amendment, when they talked about the militia.

00:46:40.000 The militia is not the National Guard, folks.

00:46:44.000 That's what they're teaching our kids in school.

00:46:46.000 As a matter of fact, 25 years ago, I had an employee who was the salutatorian at his high school.

00:46:51.000 Sharp kid, except he was thoroughly propagandized and lied to by the high school there.

00:46:57.000 They were telling him, oh no, you know, you need to get rid of guns, you gotta understand that the National Guard is the militia.

00:47:04.000 No it isn't.

00:47:05.000 This is what the people who wrote the Constitution said.

00:47:08.000 George Mason, one of them.

00:47:10.000 George Mason said, I asked, what is the militia?

00:47:13.000 Then he gave you an answer if you want to listen to it.

00:47:15.000 He said it consists of the whole people, except for a few public officials, okay?

00:47:20.000 A few public officers.

00:47:22.000 That's precisely it.

00:47:23.000 The militia was set up to defend this country.

00:47:26.000 To defend it against foreign invaders, to defend it against domestic tyranny.

00:47:32.000 That was the real linchpin.

00:47:33.000 The founders of our government realized that a standing army, a permanent army that did not disband except for a few people and controlling officers, they realized that a standing army would be used against the American people.

00:47:47.000 So they wanted the people themselves to be armed.

00:47:49.000 You always hear the phrase, boots on the ground.

00:47:51.000 Yeah, you can go in, you can do a lot of damage, you can project a lot of power with the Air Force, which they didn't have at that time.

00:47:57.000 They kept a standing Navy as protection, as a buffer.

00:48:00.000 And of course there were the Marines, which were permanently there, but they did not want to have a permanent standing Army.

00:48:06.000 Now we have the largest Army in the world.

00:48:09.000 And in number four position, if you wanted to count it as a separate army, are the American police at every level.

00:48:15.000 We do have a standing army in America.

00:48:17.000 We have an army that is standing on America.

00:48:20.000 We have an army that is increasingly militarized, and that is our police.

00:48:24.000 And then we have many people who are trying to use the military as police.

00:48:29.000 And in that context, we need to be very concerned about the attempts of Obama and others to do gun control.

00:48:37.000 to do an end around the Constitution.

00:48:39.000 You know, it's like when he has these people that are going to stand up in this town hall meeting, understand what this is all about.

00:48:45.000 This is a very cynical attempt to make his dictatorial tyranny look like it's coming from the people.

00:48:52.000 Look like it's part of a democracy.

00:48:54.000 We have a democratic republic.

00:48:56.000 We have a constitution that respects our individual liberties.

00:49:00.000 In that democratic republic, you don't take our rights by regulation without representation.

00:49:07.000 You understand that?

00:49:08.000 When you write executive orders, that's nothing but the work of a dictator.

00:49:12.000 When you have a bureaucracy that writes regulations that is not accountable to the people, that is nothing but tyranny.

00:49:19.000 We have to get that clear to people, and we have to get people to understand not only what the militia means, but what does infringement mean?

00:49:25.000 It means a gradual process.

00:49:27.000 It means a death by a thousand cuts, and that is what they've been doing.

00:49:31.000 Now I want to go back and take a look at some of the reactions.

00:49:34.000 To what's going on in Oregon.

00:49:36.000 Of course, our reporters are on their way to the site.

00:49:38.000 The weather is very heavy.

00:49:39.000 It's about 21 degrees.

00:49:40.000 Heavily snowing there.

00:49:42.000 We expect to have them on in the third hour.

00:49:44.000 Coming up in the next hour, we're going to have Lionel.

00:49:46.000 We're going to look at some of the lighter, funnier things that have been coming up in the news.

00:49:51.000 Because this has been pretty heavy.

00:49:52.000 And folks, this is real serious.

00:49:53.000 I mean, this is a matter of life and death for people.

00:49:57.000 This is potentially.

00:49:59.000 And right now, they're peaceful demonstrators.

00:50:01.000 It's not really clear to me what their goals are.

00:50:04.000 That's one of the problems I see with their tactics.

00:50:05.000 And of course the bigger, broader, strategical problems are the fact that you've got this gun control meeting that is scheduled for today.

00:50:14.000 Interesting how it is timed out there.

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00:54:07.000 Welcome.

00:54:09.000 Welcome.

00:54:23.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:54:24.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

00:54:25.000 I want to take a look at this article by Paul Joseph Watson.

00:54:28.000 It's up on the Drudge Report.

00:54:29.000 Oregon standoff could boost Obama's gun control push. 0.59

00:54:32.000 And this is what Paul says.

00:54:33.000 He says, some are concerned that the standoff in Oregon could be an ill-conceived move that will only serve to bolster Obama's gun control agenda as he prepares to unveil new executive orders to restrict firearms.

00:54:43.000 That's what we were just talking about.

00:54:44.000 They're going to have a town hall.

00:54:45.000 They're going to have people stand up and say, we want you to do more.

00:54:49.000 The Congress just isn't doing anything.

00:54:51.000 You know what?

00:54:52.000 We have a constitutional procedure for that to happen.

00:54:55.000 But they're going to urge him, and he's going, oh, you know, you guys are twisting my arm, I'll just have to do it by dictate.

00:55:01.000 That's what he's going to say.

00:55:02.000 And of course, this is just the beginning of it.

00:55:05.000 Now I want to go back, and I want to play for you, because I'm very concerned about what's going on.

00:55:09.000 As I said before, I think it's a very bad tactic.

00:55:11.000 There's not a clear goal that they want to go to.

00:55:14.000 And I want to play for you what Stuart Rhodes of Oath Keepers said on January the 1st.

00:55:19.000 Let's roll that clip. 0.89

00:55:21.000 Well, what I know is what I've heard from talking to him and Bundy and reading on his blog.

00:55:27.000 Apparently, what's going on is they're scheduled to be sent back to prison.

00:55:32.000 The judge originally had sentenced them to only a year, and they served their time, but then the government appealed that decision, and the Mass Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the judge had not sentenced them according to the guidelines, and so they ended in, I believe, a five-year sentence.

00:55:51.000 What I know is that the Hammonds at this time don't want anybody to try to stop that from happening.

00:55:56.000 So I think it's one of the main problems with people wanting to intervene is they don't want our help.

00:56:02.000 I don't think it's right for us to go in there and try to force them to accept our help.

00:56:06.000 You know what I mean?

00:56:07.000 It's kind of like with Kim Davis, without her protection against the US Marshals arresting her again for contempt of court, what would happen?

00:56:14.000 Alright, that's a key point that he's making there.

00:56:16.000 What he said was you can't help somebody who does not want your help.

00:56:20.000 You are not, if they're not willing and ready to take a hard stand themselves.

00:56:24.000 You understand, freedom cannot be given.

00:56:27.000 It must be taken.

00:56:28.000 The people who you're trying to get freedom for, they have to want it themselves.

00:56:32.000 They have to want it badly.

00:56:33.000 Okay?

00:56:34.000 It is not something that is just easily handed out to people.

00:56:37.000 If you could hand it out like candy, those people would then turn around and lose it very quickly.

00:56:42.000 Now, he goes on and points out different ways that the militia, that the Oath Keepers have helped in the past, that have been very productive.

00:56:50.000 And of course we've talked about what happened in the Sugar Pine mine there also in Oregon.

00:56:54.000 You had a situation there and we reported on that many times.

00:56:58.000 Where the BLM, again, was going to come in and knock the buildings to the ground.

00:57:03.000 This is a mine that they had legal title to going back to the 1870s.

00:57:08.000 It had a legal right to it, but of course the BLM wants to change all that.

00:57:11.000 They want to confiscate the property throughout the rural areas, negate all of these, and understand that when you've got grazing rights, when you've got mining rights, those are rights that are just as tangible as the deed to your home.

00:57:23.000 So that's like the government coming in and saying, you know what?

00:57:26.000 We're going to take through eminent domain, we're going to take your home, but we're going to turn it over to somebody who's going to use it a little bit more effectively.

00:57:34.000 Ah, we've heard that before, haven't we?

00:57:35.000 That's the Kello v. London Supreme Court decision that said, yeah, the government can take your property and they can hand it over to a corporation.

00:57:42.000 Then we saw with the Trans-Pacific, I'm sorry, with the Keystone Pipeline, we saw that TransCanada was coming in and condemning property.

00:57:51.000 So you've got a foreign, multinational corporation And our government is turning it over to them, a private corporation.

00:57:58.000 That's not what the Constitution allows.

00:58:00.000 So in this situation in the mine, what they did was they said, we need some help.

00:58:04.000 They went on site and made sure that due process was followed, that these people had their time to adjudicate this, that the BLM was not going to act precipitously, as we've seen them do so many times, come in and completely destroy the property there.

00:58:19.000 We saw the same thing happen in Ferguson, Missouri.

00:58:21.000 When those protests turned into riots, people, business owners there, asked Oath Keepers for protection.

00:58:26.000 And they said, fine, we will protect your property.

00:58:28.000 And that's exactly what happened at the Bundy Ranch.

00:58:31.000 The Bundy Ranch was a Waco-style situation that was developing.

00:58:35.000 We saw they had free speech areas.

00:58:37.000 It was repulsive to people, but they all stood together.

00:58:40.000 The community stood together.

00:58:41.000 That's not what is happening here in Oregon.

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01:00:04.000 The answer to 1984 is 1776.

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01:00:30.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:32.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

01:00:33.000 In the next segment, we're going to be joined by Lionel, the talk show host and broadcaster, and we're going to look at some of the lighter strange news that's been coming out the last few days.

01:00:45.000 Of course, most of it still has a pretty heavy underlier there, but there was an interesting article that came out.

01:00:52.000 I think it was on the Drudge Report.

01:00:54.000 Yes, it was on the Drudge Report.

01:00:55.000 Why globalizers still retain the upper hand.

01:00:58.000 We need to understand where the real lines are drawn here.

01:01:01.000 They want to get us fighting with each other, having the blacks versus the whites, having the city dwellers versus the urban dwellers. 0.96

01:01:08.000 You know, we can see that in the media reactions where liberals are tweeting and calling for the National Guard to get violent with these people who haven't been violent at this facility that they've taken over at the Wildlife Refuge. 0.55

01:01:20.000 They're saying, you know, end white terror. 0.85

01:01:23.000 Well, what they're really calling for is for white lives to be ended. 0.97

01:01:27.000 How about that White Lives Matter thing, right? 0.84

01:01:30.000 They don't really care about anything other than dividing people by race, dividing people, as I said, in the city versus people in the rural areas.

01:01:40.000 It's all about division.

01:01:41.000 But we need to understand where the true division is.

01:01:43.000 And that's why I think this article that was put up, it was Financial Times and Drudge linked to it, it was on December 30th, said why the globalizers still retain the upper hand.

01:01:53.000 Now, I don't think that they do.

01:01:56.000 But of course, this article makes a good point that the real division is between the globalists and the people who they call nationalists.

01:02:05.000 But I would include everyone who wants self-governance in that.

01:02:08.000 They say all over the world, globalization is under challenge from resurgent nationalist forces.

01:02:14.000 One of the great political challenges of the coming year will be to defend the benefits of globalization while fending off the arguments of nationalists like Ms. 0.52

01:02:21.000 Le Pen, Donald Trump, and the U.S.

01:02:24.000 and his new admirer, Vladimir Putin of Russia.

01:02:28.000 So they see it as the fact that they've already won, that they're flooding our countries with immigrants whether we like it or not. 1.00

01:02:34.000 And of course Obama is not just going to have executive orders about gun control, he's going to have executive orders printing out 34 million blank green cards.

01:02:43.000 This is about shipping our jobs overseas with the Trans-Pacific Partnership and then importing the workers For an economic collapse.

01:02:51.000 To remake the country into what they want it to be.

01:02:53.000 And that is something that is easily controlled.

01:02:56.000 A third world economy.

01:02:58.000 That's what they're trying to create here in America. 0.99

01:03:00.000 They're trying to destroy our wealth, and they're trying to stop our income capabilities.

01:03:05.000 And that's the basis of this article.

01:03:07.000 I thought it was very interesting.

01:03:08.000 They say, of course we're going to have enhanced global trade and international investment.

01:03:12.000 That's what the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the Transatlantic Partnerships are about.

01:03:15.000 It's about globalism.

01:03:17.000 It's about concentration of power.

01:03:19.000 To the international level.

01:03:22.000 And if you think that the abuse of the federal government is bad, and it is, it comes about because we don't have a say in this.

01:03:29.000 This is an out-of-control, unelected, unrepresentative bureaucracy that is far from the people that they are governing.

01:03:36.000 And if you think that that is arrogant and out of control, wait until that is replaced with a global version of the federal government.

01:03:44.000 It is going to be far worse once we see that.

01:03:47.000 And they're going to push this, and of course, that is the essence of the battle that we're in, and we need to remember that.

01:03:54.000 So the best response to the Nationalists in the West and elsewhere is often not to dismiss their concerns, but to demonstrate that their proposed solutions are impractical or dangerous.

01:04:05.000 That is why it is so dangerous to do the types of things that are being done now by the protesters.

01:04:11.000 Taking over that wildlife refuge makes citizen ownership of guns look dangerous to the public.

01:04:18.000 That is how they're going to spin it.

01:04:20.000 And it is absolutely the wrong way to proceed.

01:04:22.000 It is absolutely the wrong time.

01:04:24.000 We heard from Stuart Rhodes saying, look, you don't need to go in there and force yourself on these people.

01:04:30.000 They got ahead of the community.

01:04:31.000 The community is afraid of the government.

01:04:33.000 They are afraid of the militia members that were there.

01:04:37.000 We even had Clive and Bundy said, hey, look, if the sheriff and the community won't stand up for the rights, if they won't stand up for the rights, what are we doing there?

01:04:44.000 We're not even from that area.

01:04:45.000 I think it's the wrong time, the wrong place to make that stand.

01:04:49.000 When we come back, we're going to be talking to Lionel, and we're going to look at some of the lighter things in the news.

01:04:49.000 Now, stay with us.

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01:10:04.000 Now, our guest right now, Lionel, is an Emmy award-winning television news decoder and legal analyst.

01:10:10.000 I've got some legal questions I want to ask him here about what's going on in Oregon.

01:10:14.000 He's a licensed trial lawyer and a former prosecutor.

01:10:17.000 You can find him at lionelmedia.com or on Twitter at Lionel Media.

01:10:22.000 That's his Twitter handle.

01:10:23.000 Thank you for joining us, Lionel.

01:10:25.000 Happy New Year to you, sir.

01:10:25.000 Thank you.

01:10:27.000 Thank you.

01:10:27.000 Happy New Year to you.

01:10:28.000 What do you think about this situation in Oregon?

01:10:30.000 What's your take on this?

01:10:31.000 Not good.

01:10:32.000 Not good at all.

01:10:34.000 This is going to harm the cause more than anything else.

01:10:37.000 I agree. 0.98

01:10:38.000 Because this plays into, David, the meme that these are a bunch of lunatics.

01:10:45.000 And whenever you see somebody do this, the Constitution, whenever somebody holds... Oh, it is frozen.

01:10:53.000 We've got a frozen feed there.

01:10:54.000 Oh, there we go.

01:10:55.000 We're back.

01:10:56.000 Go ahead.

01:10:57.000 I did like that effect, by the way, where I'm just frozen like that.

01:11:00.000 Holding up the Constitution.

01:11:00.000 That's right.

01:11:02.000 Exactly.

01:11:03.000 But you know, David, I have spent my adult life studying it.

01:11:08.000 I've had to study for bar exams and regular exams.

01:11:12.000 And it's a fabulous, wonderful document, which I'd like to keep.

01:11:17.000 But it doesn't cover everything!

01:11:20.000 There's nothing in the Constitution about the Air Force, about the number of Supreme Court Justices, Congressional Districts, marriage, separation of powers, the exclusionary rule, nothing about Congressional Districts, nothing!

01:11:33.000 There's a Supremacy Clause of Article 6.

01:11:35.000 You just don't pick this thing up and say, well, there's nothing about Bureau of Land Management, so I can take it by force.

01:11:44.000 Look, My entire life, I have been an advocate of the Second Amendment of the Constitution.

01:11:52.000 I was in the state of Florida, as you know, where we had carry permits pert-near before anybody did.

01:11:59.000 I'm not a hunter.

01:12:01.000 Not that there's anything wrong with hunting.

01:12:03.000 I've never shot at a living human being.

01:12:05.000 But I believed in this thing.

01:12:07.000 And all of my friends, David, were just rational.

01:12:10.000 We were very, very, and are very, very careful of guns.

01:12:14.000 Don't think kids should have them.

01:12:16.000 They should be made secure.

01:12:17.000 If you have the slightest doubt whether you could fire one, either in protection of your family or whatever, don't have them.

01:12:26.000 We were rational.

01:12:27.000 And then, All of a sudden, folks are walking around with AR-15s and making my cause look ludicrous.

01:12:38.000 And I'm trying to defend this constantly.

01:12:42.000 And I'm not suggesting that the Bundys This is an inside job.

01:12:48.000 But at the White House, Obama about to basically take another step towards disarmament, which is what every government wants.

01:12:57.000 I'm sorry whether, I don't care what country you're in, whether you're a president, prime minister, you don't want your people armed!

01:13:05.000 The White House is thinking, can you believe this?

01:13:08.000 This is perfect!

01:13:10.000 And then, don't call this a militia!

01:13:15.000 Don't conflate militias and Second Amendment!

01:13:19.000 And when the Hammonds themselves are saying, get out of here!

01:13:23.000 Go away! 1.00

01:13:24.000 Even Cliven is saying, I don't even know what we're doing here.

01:13:28.000 Right.

01:13:31.000 I just, look, if you want to talk about the unconstitutional appropriation of territory, of property, Look at the civil forfeiture laws.

01:13:42.000 Look at what's going on every single day.

01:13:42.000 Yes.

01:13:44.000 David, you would not believe at major airports, the police details that do nothing but seize money and cash.

01:13:52.000 Yes.

01:13:52.000 With no evidence of any.

01:13:54.000 So I'm all for the Constitution, but I'm not this.

01:14:01.000 Yes.

01:14:02.000 No!

01:14:02.000 I think it's very important, you know, I'm looking at these articles about Obama using executive orders to enact gun control and there was a quote from Bloomberg's gun control group, Everytown, and they said only half the people who are tried for selling guns without a license are convicted by juries.

01:14:20.000 You know, that's jury nullification.

01:14:22.000 That's something that is in our power.

01:14:23.000 We're leaving one of our most powerful tools on the ground because we don't know about it.

01:14:29.000 And that's something we could use to shut down an out-of-control government at every level.

01:14:34.000 Or even easier, how about just not guilty?

01:14:37.000 Yes, exactly.

01:14:38.000 I mean, I don't want to be found, be acquitted via jury nullification.

01:14:43.000 I want to be found not guilty because they didn't prove their case.

01:14:45.000 Look, let me just start, and this has nothing to do David, I want to think of a new concept.

01:14:52.000 I want to teach everybody.

01:14:54.000 It's called instrument-rated politics.

01:14:57.000 I want you to imagine you're a pilot and you're looking down at the instrument panel.

01:15:02.000 You don't know what weather it is, what time it is.

01:15:04.000 You're not.

01:15:05.000 You're just looking and you're saying, we are in trouble here.

01:15:09.000 I don't have to look out and see this.

01:15:10.000 We're upside down.

01:15:11.000 Yep, we're upside down.

01:15:14.000 I base my political observations not on who's the president, not on whether it's a Democrat or Republican.

01:15:22.000 I look at this right now and I'm saying, this is not good.

01:15:25.000 And it has not been good for years.

01:15:29.000 So it's not that Obama wants to seize it.

01:15:33.000 I don't care if it's Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton.

01:15:36.000 Presidents of the United States are handed a script and the first thing they want to do is to disarm the population.

01:15:45.000 You don't want people, your citizens, to be able to fight back.

01:15:51.000 It's axiomatic.

01:15:53.000 That being said, Our cause is being made to look like a bunch of redneck hayseed Jethro's out there. 0.93

01:16:03.000 And the sad part is, is that there are a lot of us, this is with all due respect to hayseed Jethro's, but there are a lot of us who say, wait a minute, let us do this the proper way.

01:16:15.000 Let us look at this thing rationally.

01:16:18.000 Our cause has been completely Just stripped bare of any rational thought in the media.

01:16:27.000 And by the way, those people who believe in the right to possess a firearm, for whatever reason, it's not about plinking cans and hunting deer.

01:16:35.000 It has nothing to do with sexuality and extensions of manhood and all of those usual things.

01:16:43.000 But when you have Cases like this, it does more to harm the cause because right now at the White House, Obama and his folks are saying, I can't believe this.

01:16:55.000 I could not have written.

01:16:57.000 Can you believe these people?

01:17:00.000 Well, talking about this being something that transcends Obama, you're exactly right.

01:17:04.000 The mandatory minimum, if you want to put it that way, goes back to the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996.

01:17:13.000 And so you had a situation.

01:17:14.000 Let me read you a quote, Lionel, from what the judge said in this particular case.

01:17:18.000 When he looked at this and the sentencing, I don't know if it was a guideline or mandatory minimum, but it said it struck the judge presiding over the sentencing as too harsh and off base in this instance.

01:17:28.000 And I'm quoting NPR here.

01:17:30.000 This is not a conservative right-wing publication saying this.

01:17:33.000 And here's a quote from him.

01:17:35.000 He said, it just would not be, would not meet any idea I have of justice, proportionally.

01:17:40.000 He says, I'm not supposed to use the word fairness in criminal law.

01:17:44.000 I know that I had a criminal law professor a long time ago yell at me for doing that, and I don't do it.

01:17:48.000 But this, it would be a sentence that would shock the conscience to me.

01:17:52.000 This was such a minor offense, and we can talk about what the BLM was up against, but here's a situation where the judge is told that he doesn't have any discretion.

01:18:00.000 Okay, and the judges are telling the jurors that they don't have any discretion.

01:18:04.000 And what I'm saying is, you're saying, how about being found innocent?

01:18:07.000 All it takes is one person to say, I'm not going to send this person to jail because the penalty is too harsh.

01:18:14.000 Yeah, he may have had a fire that got out of hand.

01:18:16.000 In one case, it burned 139 acres of land.

01:18:19.000 In another case, it burned one acre of land.

01:18:21.000 This is something the BLM does all the time.

01:18:23.000 The BLM has had these same type of fires that have gotten out of control, have destroyed homes, and they haven't compensated people for it.

01:18:30.000 So this judge looks at it and goes, I don't really know why we're doing this.

01:18:32.000 Yeah, factually, the jury says, well, you know, if we got to just judge the facts of the case, yeah, they did have a fire, so I guess they're guilty.

01:18:38.000 The judge tries to put some common sense into this, and then we got the federal government coming back with a vendetta trying to continually push this into lunatic land.

01:18:47.000 Well, hats off to Judge Michael Hogan.

01:18:50.000 And this goes to show you a couple of points here.

01:18:52.000 Number one, the benefit of having lifetime tenure.

01:18:55.000 See, this is a great part about being a federal judge.

01:18:57.000 When you've got a brave, intrepid soul like this judge, he says, I don't need no, I can do whatever I want.

01:19:04.000 I'm not elected.

01:19:05.000 The only way you can get rid of me is to impeach me.

01:19:07.000 And I'm here for life and I can do whatever I want.

01:19:09.000 That's number one.

01:19:10.000 Number two, this goes to show you The problems with minimum mandatory sentences.

01:19:15.000 Yes.

01:19:16.000 You've got a judge who is, you, we, we elect and appoint to use discretion to sit back and say, I've heard the facts of this case.

01:19:26.000 This is different.

01:19:28.000 Not all cases are the same.

01:19:30.000 You see this all the time with minimum mandatories, with enhanced penalties.

01:19:34.000 You see three strikes, you're out.

01:19:37.000 Those attempts by the legislature to wrest control from those individuals.

01:19:43.000 But David, I want to go back to something.

01:19:46.000 I don't care whether you, not you, but you rhetorically like guns.

01:19:51.000 Look, gay marriage, I happen to be in favor of the constitutional right for gay marriage. 0.89

01:19:58.000 I'm not gay.

01:19:59.000 It doesn't matter to me.

01:20:00.000 But it doesn't have to matter to me for me to care.

01:20:03.000 Hold that thought, Lionel.

01:20:03.000 Exactly.

01:20:04.000 We gotta go to a break.

01:20:05.000 We're gonna be right back with Lionel.

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01:24:16.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:24:18.000 I'm David Knight, your host, and joining me now is Lionel, Emmy award-winning TV news decoder and legal analyst, and Lionel was just in the middle of analyzing where he thinks the Supreme Court, and I agree with him, where the Supreme Court went off the rails this last year on their gay marriage ruling.

01:24:34.000 I'll let you continue with that, Lionel.

01:24:35.000 I know you were right in the middle of that as we had to go to a break.

01:24:38.000 Go ahead.

01:24:39.000 Well, a couple of things here.

01:24:40.000 You know, we talk about the Constitution, and I know a lot of people are Tenth Amendment fans, but I want to bring up, to your attention and your edification, perusal, and review, Article, excuse me, Amendment 9, the Ninth Amendment.

01:24:52.000 Very, very simple.

01:24:54.000 The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

01:25:06.000 This is the only document that says, just because it ain't in here doesn't mean you don't have the right to do it.

01:25:12.000 I have the right to a colored TV, but the reason for that is because I just do, not because of the Constitution.

01:25:20.000 Now look, whether you like gay rights, guns, drugs, it's Immaterial to me.

01:25:28.000 Doesn't matter to me whether I am absolutely against the death penalty for a host of reasons.

01:25:36.000 I'm for a lot of things that you and I may not I agree with.

01:25:41.000 There are things that I don't like.

01:25:44.000 I don't like.

01:25:45.000 I don't like abortion.

01:25:48.000 I don't like it.

01:25:49.000 But I don't want to see a woman being told by the government, sorry, we're not interested in what you think.

01:25:54.000 You have no say.

01:25:56.000 Nothing.

01:25:57.000 Even though I'm thinking, wait a minute, that's good in a way.

01:26:01.000 The encroachment of the government means more to me than the dislike of the thing which I'm theoretically in favor of.

01:26:08.000 So whether you like Obama or not, it doesn't matter.

01:26:12.000 David, there are people I know...

01:26:15.000 Two sides.

01:26:16.000 One, I know people who are adamantly against guns.

01:26:20.000 They say things like we ought to take every gun there is and take it off the street.

01:26:25.000 How do you expect to do that?

01:26:27.000 I don't know, but we just do it because I hate guns and I hate gun people.

01:26:32.000 And then I see this other group.

01:26:34.000 This is the faux conservative.

01:26:37.000 This is the person who claims who doesn't know, you know, a breech loader from a hole in the ground.

01:26:42.000 Who doesn't really care about guns, but takes the position of being pro-gun because he or she wants to be the prototypical quintessential archetypal conservative.

01:26:53.000 They're just as phony as the others!

01:26:55.000 This has nothing to do with it.

01:26:57.000 The Constitution has nothing to do with your likes or dislikes.

01:27:01.000 And by the way, you may not like gay people, black people, white people, it doesn't matter!

01:27:07.000 Your freedom remains for you to like or dislike.

01:27:11.000 But the certainty of our rights transcend our individual likes and dislikes.

01:27:18.000 So when you try to tell somebody, why should you care about guns?

01:27:21.000 Because it's in the Constitution!

01:27:24.000 The Second Amendment! 0.99

01:27:26.000 And people can parse all they want.

01:27:29.000 Did they mean the militia?

01:27:31.000 Did the Heller case speak to this?

01:27:35.000 Look, all I know is that it was important, as was the Third Amendment, for our drafters, our constitutional forebears, there was a reason for this!

01:27:45.000 Yes, exactly, and it kind of comes down to the issue of whether or not it's a privilege that is granted by the Constitution, or whether or not the Constitution is recognizing fundamental rights that we have as human beings, and that's clearly the case.

01:27:58.000 That's what you're talking about when you're talking about the Ninth Amendment and the Tenth Amendment.

01:28:02.000 That's clearly the case.

01:28:03.000 It's what many people have called negative rights, saying the government cannot encroach on you in these certain areas, and we're going to make sure that, you know, we're not We're not saying, as you point out, that if we don't mention it, you can take it.

01:28:14.000 But we're saying that these particular things, like our freedom of speech, like our ability to keep and bear arms, those are so important that we're going to specifically say, hands off, leave that alone.

01:28:24.000 And of course, you know, the difference that we have with abortion is that we look at that as a taking of life.

01:28:30.000 And so that's where the discrepancy comes in with that.

01:28:32.000 But it is!

01:28:33.000 That is, yeah.

01:28:34.000 But it is!

01:28:36.000 And this may be absolutely positively incongruous, but I don't know about you, but a fetus, an embryo, it's not a duck, it's a human being, and it may not be completely formed, but an infant isn't a fully formed adult either.

01:28:52.000 That's not even the basis for this.

01:28:55.000 Sometimes there are some very, very hard issues.

01:29:00.000 I don't know how to make this any clearer.

01:29:03.000 You know, we have become, David, so personal.

01:29:07.000 I've got friends of mine who talk about global warming.

01:29:13.000 I declare global warming!

01:29:16.000 Aren't you worried about that little polar bear hanging on to the little ice cube that was an iceberg?

01:29:23.000 What about the polar bear?

01:29:25.000 And I'm thinking to myself, boy, you, I mean, you just fell hook line and sinker for this stuff.

01:29:31.000 What about the Malthusian aspects of it?

01:29:33.000 The anti-industrial?

01:29:34.000 What about the carbon taxing?

01:29:35.000 It's a ruse!

01:29:37.000 Yes.

01:29:37.000 Wake up!

01:29:38.000 It's all about global governance, isn't it, Lionel?

01:29:40.000 And of course, we're out of time, but that's where we're headed.

01:29:44.000 That's what they're using this for, is a beard to consolidate power, even from the Washington level to the international level.

01:29:51.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

01:29:52.000 That's Lionel.

01:29:53.000 You can find him at LionelMedia.com.

01:29:55.000 His Twitter handle is LionelMedia.

01:29:57.000 We'll be right back.

01:29:58.000 We're on the march.

01:29:59.000 The empire's on the run.

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01:30:09.000 At least 20 armed militia members, including three members of the Bundy family, have seized control of a federal building at the Milor National Wildlife Refuge about 50 miles southeast of Burns, Oregon.

01:30:19.000 The occupation is in response to the persecution of two Oregon ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr.

01:30:23.000 and Stephen Hammond.

01:30:24.000 who were convicted of a federal arson charge under an anti-terrorism law.

01:30:27.000 In 2006, the Hammonds started a controlled burn to stop the spread of a lightning storm fire which threatened their ranch.

01:30:33.000 The backfire saved their home and much of their property, but five years later, the federal government, particularly the Bureau of Land Management, claimed the Hammonds were terrorists who started the fire to damage federally controlled land.

01:30:43.000 The feds sent Dwight and Stephen to prison and are threatening to take their 12,000 acre property if they do not pay the BLM $200,000.

01:30:51.000 InfoWars reporter Joe Biggs and other crew members will be on the scene giving live updates.

01:30:55.000 You can also follow Alex Jones on Facebook and the Alex Jones channel on YouTube for the latest developments on the situation.

01:31:02.000 And check back on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv for more news and this is Kit Daniels reporting.

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01:33:24.000 You're listening to Alex Jones.

01:33:29.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:31.000 I'm David Knight.

01:33:31.000 Your host will be joining our reporters in Oregon, hopefully in the next hour.

01:33:37.000 They're on their way to the site to give us some eyes on the ground.

01:33:41.000 Now, what do we have to look forward to in the new year?

01:33:43.000 There's a lot of new and crazy regulations that are already taking effect this year.

01:33:49.000 And a study says that 2015 was a record year for federal regulations.

01:33:53.000 Now they're talking about how there were 81,611 pages.

01:33:57.000 That's huge, as Donald Trump would say.

01:34:00.000 It's something that we cannot do on a year-to-year basis, and that's what they are doing on a yearly basis.

01:34:05.000 They're doing 70,000 to 80,000 pages of new regulations each year.

01:34:09.000 I remember about 10 years ago there was a congressional candidate in North Carolina Who said, we're going to feed the IRS code into a paper shredder to tell people we want to get rid of the income tax.

01:34:22.000 And he couldn't even get an exact figure from anybody at the IRS in terms of how many pages it was.

01:34:27.000 They really didn't know.

01:34:29.000 Finally he got an estimate of around 60,000.

01:34:31.000 So he got this stack.

01:34:34.000 of phone books and fed them into a wood chipper and I mean it was a huge stack of phone books but they're adding 81,000 pages into the register just this year now that's just Rules without representation.

01:34:47.000 Rules by the federal bureaucracies.

01:34:49.000 Now, the big hitters in this, of course, are the EPA, the FCC, others like that.

01:34:56.000 But it's a lot of little regulations at the local level, too.

01:34:59.000 Look at what's happening in New York.

01:35:00.000 You can be fined $250,000, a quarter of a million dollars, if you offend a transgender woman in New York City.

01:35:08.000 This is an article we had on Infowars.com, December 29th.

01:35:11.000 From Michael Schneider, they say, brand new rules just issued by the New York City Commissioner on Human Rights.

01:35:16.000 You could potentially be fined $250,000 if you purposely offend someone like Bruce Jender.

01:35:22.000 Okay?

01:35:23.000 You do that, then they basically will hit you with a quarter million dollar fine.

01:35:26.000 In Massachusetts, a judge, because that's where a lot of our rules and regulations are coming from, not from our elected representatives, a judge says, a Roman Catholic school in Massachusetts has been ordered by a Superior Court judge to hire homosexuals for non-teaching positions.

01:35:40.000 Again, this is a private religious school.

01:35:44.000 When Jefferson wrote about a wall of separation, he was talking about a wall that separated and protected religious beliefs from government intrusion.

01:35:53.000 It was some people who were Baptists in Connecticut, and they were concerned because as part of the election campaign, John Adams had been telling everybody that Thomas Jefferson was this atheist who was going to destroy their Bibles and throw them into jail, and so they wrote him a letter.

01:36:08.000 He goes, no, there is a wall of separation with the First Amendment that protects you from the federal government.

01:36:14.000 Now that wall has turned around the other way.

01:36:16.000 That's why we need to be careful.

01:36:18.000 about saying that walls are solution.

01:36:20.000 Walls on the border are the solution.

01:36:22.000 Walls that tend to be built to keep other people out by the government usually wind up being your prison.

01:36:28.000 As George Washington said, when people said, well, you talk about freedom in the United States, aren't the British people free?

01:36:33.000 And he says, yeah.

01:36:34.000 They walk about freely, but between high walls.

01:36:37.000 And those walls get closer and narrower all the time.

01:36:41.000 Look at this regulation that was just pronounced by the FAA.

01:36:44.000 We've talked about this many times on Infowars.

01:36:46.000 It became effective on the 21st, that if you get a drone, You have to register it with the federal government if it's a half pound or more.

01:36:53.000 And so they've been inundated with so many applications from people who don't want to challenge the government.

01:37:00.000 They're concerned because the government comes in, again, it's civil action.

01:37:04.000 Just like civil asset forfeiture, where they don't charge you with a crime, they don't wait until they find you guilty, they just take your property.

01:37:10.000 The FAA says, we've got a new rule we're going to put out here.

01:37:13.000 And we're going to say that if you don't do this and that to register your little toy plane, then we're going to come after you with a $27,500 fine.

01:37:23.000 Just like that.

01:37:24.000 Just like that.

01:37:25.000 And so people who don't want to contest that say, well, you know, we're going to comply with it.

01:37:31.000 They crashed the system.

01:37:32.000 There was so much stuff there.

01:37:34.000 And then, of course, we've got Real ID, which is on its way.

01:37:37.000 And Real ID is going to be used by the TSA to keep people from flying, perhaps.

01:37:44.000 They say, this is an article from the 10th Amendment Center, they say, the TSA has threatened to stop accepting driver's licenses from five states, Illinois, Missouri, Minnesota, New Mexico, and Washington State this year.

01:37:55.000 These five states remain non-compliant with the requirements of the Real ID Act and they don't have pending waiver extensions.

01:38:01.000 Now, there's about half of the states, it goes through the article, I think it's like 28 states, That have not complied with real ID and there's some real concerns about privacy, about control by the government, of our movements, of our not having to have a national ID in order to buy and sell and move around.

01:38:19.000 But here we've got the TSA moving from their so-called protective mode, okay, they're supposed to be protecting us at the airports, now they're moving into being a strong-arming bully.

01:38:29.000 That's the way these things always go.

01:38:31.000 He points out in the 10th Amendment, Senator says, constitutionally the federal government lacks any authority to create a national ID, but the feds won't let something like constitutional limitations stop them from doing what they want.

01:38:42.000 They say 10 years after passage of this REAL ID law, half of the states, more than half the states, have not complied with REAL ID.

01:38:49.000 So, so far the DHS, Homeland Security, has not announced a schedule for enforcement at the airport, but once it does, it will give a 120 day notice before they actually stop accepting IDs at checkpoints.

01:39:01.000 And DHS said, as we continue the phased in enforcement of REAL ID Act, the consequences of continued non-compliance will grow with each milestone.

01:39:12.000 That's the way tyranny grows.

01:39:14.000 That's why it says infringement in the Second Amendment.

01:39:18.000 They do it by a process of gradual infringement.

01:39:22.000 And that's what the TSA is doing right now. 1.00

01:39:24.000 They're not just a bunch of bumbling idiots. 1.00

01:39:27.000 No, they're going to be used by Homeland Security as well. 1.00

01:39:31.000 The federal strategy, he says here, is pretty clear.

01:39:33.000 Crack down on five states.

01:39:35.000 Then intimidate the others into falling in line.

01:39:37.000 By limiting its initial action to just a few states, the feds can keep the public outcry down to a dull roar, shift the blame onto those five state governments.

01:39:47.000 It is a classic bullying tactic.

01:39:50.000 Exactly right.

01:39:51.000 Rough up a few kids, all the rest of them into falling into line.

01:39:55.000 Now that's on the 10th Amendment Center.

01:39:58.000 And the Missouri lawmakers have spoke up about this.

01:40:01.000 Of course this is one of the states where They did not comply with it.

01:40:06.000 Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder released an online statement saying the real-world implication of nationalized ID system with a biometric photo data that allows for long-distance ID and tracking of residents is disturbing.

01:40:19.000 Yeah, to say the least.

01:40:21.000 But that's our TSA.

01:40:24.000 We got a special report from Alex Jones.

01:40:25.000 The TSA is a joke.

01:40:27.000 You know what?

01:40:27.000 The joke is on you.

01:40:29.000 The joke is on you.

01:40:30.000 The joke has been in your pants.

01:40:32.000 And now they're going farther.

01:40:34.000 They're going to use this to control your movement.

01:40:36.000 Here's Alex Jones' report.

01:40:39.000 Alex Jones here on this Sunday, what is the third day of January 2016.

01:40:44.000 I'm getting on an airplane to fly out to Phoenix, Arizona to interview One of the most influential leaders in America today.

01:40:57.000 I will announce who that leader is tomorrow.

01:41:00.000 And I'm going to interview that leader, first and foremost, to have dialogue so that we don't have civil war in this country.

01:41:09.000 Now, that said, there are groups and organizations that have had an armed takeover of a federal building in Oregon right now.

01:41:15.000 We're also dispatching reporters to cover that, to try to stop a civil war as well, from the other side of the spectrum.

01:41:22.000 Because the globalists want chaos.

01:41:25.000 Now, meanwhile, CBS News reported two weeks ago that 150 people from Mexico flew in to JFK in New York and were allowed to just come in without even showing their passports and customs.

01:41:39.000 But then today, I watched people pulled out of line to be searched and their bags torn apart.

01:41:46.000 We opted out.

01:41:47.000 The TSA's claiming they're getting rid of the opting out or have the right to.

01:41:51.000 And myself, Rob Dew, and Josh Owens, everybody traveling with us, all got searched.

01:41:55.000 And they took their time.

01:41:57.000 Total violation of the Fourth Amendment, totally training us to be slaves.

01:42:00.000 I'm not against the TSA themselves, except what they're doing is a joke, because the border is wide open, the government ships the people in, the Border Patrol admits they complete the smuggling process, and then here we are.

01:42:11.000 With ISIS being brought into the country.

01:42:13.000 Here we are with all these Syrian refugees from a war-torn area. 1.00

01:42:16.000 A bunch of them fighters being brought in.

01:42:17.000 All these attacks happening in Europe, San Bernardino.

01:42:21.000 And they sit there so seriously, tearing through everyone's luggage.

01:42:24.000 Oh my God, this is a 5-ounce bottle of cream, not a 4-ounce or, you know. 0.95

01:42:29.000 It's ridiculous. 0.87

01:42:31.000 But the system wants to break the American people. 0.93

01:42:33.000 They want to dog train us.

01:42:35.000 And train us, we have no rights. 1.00

01:42:36.000 Let's blow up their face. 0.98

01:42:38.000 Now, to show you the media control, let me show you this. 0.99

01:42:42.000 I covered this on the radio last week.

01:42:46.000 This is the weekend issue of USA Today.

01:42:50.000 The December 31st issue, the last big one.

01:42:53.000 I covered this.

01:42:55.000 Before the year ended.

01:42:57.000 In fact, on the 31st when I was doing the radio.

01:42:59.000 Here it is this weekend still being sold.

01:43:01.000 The headline of the same article written by Rick Hampson was TV faces its mortality in politics.

01:43:09.000 It means it's death.

01:43:11.000 But here it's TV faces threat to its throne in politics.

01:43:17.000 You see, because they know this is a non-digital audience that reads this, they act like TV's in a little bit of trouble to their Dumbo audience.

01:43:25.000 But, to the cyber audience, they admit it's basically dead.

01:43:29.000 So that shows you the level of manipulation and the level of control that we're dealing with here.

01:43:35.000 Our average Facebook mention is just like a half million viewers.

01:43:37.000 How are they gonna compete with that when the top CNN show doesn't even get that?

01:43:40.000 But CNN is, again, it's not just that we're alternative.

01:43:43.000 It's that we're just real.

01:43:45.000 We cover real info.

01:43:47.000 We don't play games.

01:43:49.000 We're just showing people the- May I have your attention please?

01:43:53.000 For your safety, do you- is there anybody, any bags or anything? 1.00

01:43:56.000 No, there's an open border, bitch! 1.00

01:43:59.000 There's goddamn Al-Qaeda people being shipped in, you whore. 1.00

01:44:02.000 You fucking want me to tell you if I saw something? 1.00

01:44:04.000 Yeah, I saw something. 0.99

01:44:05.000 I saw total tyranny being brought in.

01:44:07.000 I saw foreign threats being used to take my freedoms. 0.98

01:44:10.000 Here, let's listen to her.

01:44:12.000 Now it's in Spanish.

01:44:13.000 Do you see anything suspicious?

01:44:14.000 Yeah.

01:44:15.000 I got a hijacked government out of control, working with terrorists.

01:44:18.000 And then using them to take my freedoms. 0.96

01:44:20.000 I'm tired of it.

01:44:21.000 And then I'm not blaming these poor TSA people.

01:44:23.000 Half of them were listeners.

01:44:24.000 Dude, you opted out.

01:44:25.000 Yeah.

01:44:26.000 Let's talk to Drew real quick.

01:44:27.000 Alright.

01:44:28.000 Yeah, um, the guy was, uh, he was like, sorry, I gotta do this.

01:44:32.000 Going through everything.

01:44:33.000 Seemed like a real nice guy, but... They do it because they save the images.

01:44:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:36.000 Yeah.

01:44:36.000 Those naked body scanners violate child porn laws.

01:44:39.000 Exactly.

01:44:40.000 And of course, in response to doing that, they put all the kids through the metal detector.

01:44:44.000 I tried to walk through the metal detector after somebody said, oh no, you've got to go through the scanner.

01:44:48.000 I said, no, opt out.

01:44:49.000 And I was waiting for it to say, you can't opt out.

01:44:51.000 And I'm going to say, yes, I can.

01:44:52.000 I can opt out.

01:44:53.000 But they let people that sign up beforehand go through, even though they know full well that you are.

01:44:56.000 Exactly.

01:44:56.000 But down the road, even though you've signed up to be a slave, they'll still opt you in.

01:45:00.000 He's training you to get into it.

01:45:01.000 So I got the full court press and then of course he goes up into your thigh. 0.95

01:45:05.000 He said I'm going to go all the way up to where your legs meet your torso. 1.00

01:45:09.000 Hit that a couple times of course to make sure he does a thorough body cavity search.

01:45:14.000 Of course they didn't do that but you know it's just the security theater.

01:45:17.000 It's all part of the security theater.

01:45:23.000 You opted out.

01:45:24.000 Oh yeah.

01:45:25.000 I think the guy enjoyed it a little bit more than he should have.

01:45:28.000 This is actually the first time I've opted out where he got everything and he went front, back, everywhere. 0.68

01:45:33.000 So I think it's getting a little bit more ridiculous than it should be.

01:45:36.000 But the border's open. 0.75

01:45:37.000 Oh, exactly.

01:45:38.000 We've flown over the Arizona border.

01:45:39.000 We've flown over the entire, from the entire Mexico border, U.S.-Mexico border.

01:45:44.000 It's open everywhere.

01:45:45.000 And then they ship the illegals in and don't even search them. 0.88

01:45:47.000 Absolutely.

01:45:48.000 I mean, security theater.

01:45:49.000 Are you excited about the big interview we got coming up?

01:45:51.000 I am.

01:45:51.000 It's going to be very interesting.

01:45:52.000 People need to stay tuned.

01:45:53.000 It's going to be a big deal.

01:45:55.000 Listen to this, it's announcing, it's announcing, be paranoid, watch out, terrorists are everywhere right now on the loudspeaker.

01:46:00.000 But the border's open, they ship people in from Mexico and don't even check their passports.

01:46:04.000 That's mainstream news.

01:46:05.000 It's all a fraud, they ship in refugees, aren't even vetted. 1.00

01:46:08.000 All of it's a fraud.

01:46:09.000 All of it's to terrorize you into submission and just groveling to tyranny while everything's wide open.

01:46:15.000 This is how America and its soul is broken.

01:46:18.000 This is how people are made to lose their will and absolutely turn into slaves.

01:46:21.000 I mean, just look at it.

01:46:22.000 There you've got the sheeple over here. 0.99

01:46:24.000 This guy believes he's fighting for America right here.

01:46:27.000 And the whole time, the globalists have already captured America and run the terrorists.

01:46:30.000 All right.

01:46:31.000 We're going to be covering... Look at this TSA guy. 0.95

01:46:36.000 I mean, it is absolutely ridiculous. 0.96

01:46:40.000 Anyways, we're here to expose the hypocrisy of the joke that it is. 0.93

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01:46:51.000 Covering serious events in Oregon.

01:46:53.000 Armed takeover of a federal facility and more.

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01:46:59.000 Okay, that's Alex Jones and of course the TSA is going to be part of the strategy to roll out a national ID card.

01:47:06.000 That's how they're going to bully you into doing that.

01:47:08.000 And of course we've got our government on many different levels working to shut down our transportation.

01:47:12.000 I want to talk about what they're doing with no refusal blood draws.

01:47:16.000 They want to move this to a year-round position here in Austin.

01:47:21.000 And we've got a massive new partnership announced today between General Motors and Lyft in terms of taking over control of your private movement.

01:47:31.000 You know, I've got a self-driving car right now.

01:47:32.000 I hate to see these things called a self-driving car.

01:47:35.000 I drive myself right now.

01:47:37.000 That's what automobile means.

01:47:39.000 It means I drive myself when and where I want, without being tracked, without being controlled, without being stopped, without being taxed by the government.

01:47:48.000 But they're going to stop all that.

01:47:49.000 They're going to tax you by mile, they're going to do everything else they can to force you away from private ownership of vehicles.

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01:49:23.000 Now going back to what we're looking at, we just had an article and I talked about it yesterday.

01:49:26.000 It ended yesterday in Austin, the no refusal blood draw.

01:49:33.000 If they accuse you of being a drunk driver, they can draw your blood.

01:49:36.000 Just like vampires.

01:49:38.000 But of course, Don Salazar came to me and said, you know, I reported back in October that Austin is pushing to get this done year-round.

01:49:46.000 They just need to have more funding so they can hire more police, more technicians.

01:49:51.000 You know, because that's the way you grow your little empire.

01:49:54.000 And truly, it is one of the most Galling things I have ever seen. 0.91

01:49:59.000 People who have their blood drawn and they don't have any alcohol level.

01:50:04.000 I mean, the fact that you would have a no refusal blood draw, it kind of sounds like they would inject you with things against your will too, doesn't it?

01:50:11.000 See, when you are a slave, they don't care about your informed consent.

01:50:15.000 They don't care about your due process.

01:50:18.000 They don't care about your legal rights or you as an individual.

01:50:21.000 They will inject into your arm whatever they wish, whenever they wish.

01:50:26.000 Without your informed consent, and they will pull blood or anything else that they want out of your body without your informed consent.

01:50:33.000 Absolutely amazing.

01:50:34.000 Of course, we've had these things happen typically on a Fourth of July, Halloween, New Year's Eve, Labor Day, which they recently extended to the end of the summer.

01:50:42.000 But of course, now they need to have it year-round, and they're going to have to staff up.

01:50:46.000 So, dig down deep into your wallets, folks, and pay for your own oppression by these vampire cops.

01:50:52.000 And it's not just here in Austin.

01:50:54.000 The State Patrol is doing it in Tennessee.

01:50:56.000 And they say, oh, it's just going to be for a short period of time.

01:50:59.000 That's the way they take your freedom.

01:51:02.000 Gradual infringement.

01:51:04.000 That's the way they're coming after the guns as well.

01:51:05.000 They do it on every front.

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01:54:09.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:54:18.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

01:54:20.000 We're going to be going to our reporters in the next hour who are on the ground in Oregon at the site of this takeover of the wildlife refuge there.

01:54:29.000 It's amazing to see these headlines and of course it plays right into Obama's agenda.

01:54:34.000 That's what we're very concerned about.

01:54:36.000 We see things like armed protesters, armed group.

01:54:40.000 We see that they are highlighting what the sheriff said there.

01:54:44.000 These people aim to overthrow the government.

01:54:47.000 And on and on and on.

01:54:49.000 I think they are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

01:54:52.000 This case here, and we've had several really good articles by Kurt Nemo.

01:54:57.000 First of all, laying out what is constitutionally wrong with the government owning so much land out west.

01:55:04.000 And we've also got an article today, and I'll go over some of that later on in the next hour.

01:55:11.000 Going over the specifics of this case and showing how the government is trying to run ranchers off, deliberately trying to run them off the land so that they can make money off of this.

01:55:21.000 There's a lot of money, a lot of mineral resources there that can be handed out to their crony friends.

01:55:26.000 We've seen this happen in Arizona, for example, where Senator McCain took over an area that was set aside for a park, set aside for a memorial to the Apache Nation there.

01:55:39.000 Taking over the Tonto National Forest and then turning it over to a multinational corporation so they can do a destructive, incredibly destructive mining process and get the copper out of there.

01:55:51.000 We see this over and over again.

01:55:52.000 I mean, this is a shell game.

01:55:55.000 It's crony capitalism writ large, but it is also Agenda 21, trying to get us off the land.

01:56:01.000 total control and of course part of that is we're just talking about the TSA forcing being used as a wedge to bully us into taking a national ID card.

01:56:11.000 We also have All of the different automobile manufacturers as well as many in Silicon Valley working with the government to control transportation.

01:56:22.000 This has always been the dream of the government to control our transportation.

01:56:25.000 So now today we see that General Motors and Lyft have announced an agreement that GM is going to invest $500 million in Lyft.

01:56:33.000 They're going to create a national network of self-driving cars, and they point out that like other car manufacturers, they're going to move past the old ways.

01:56:42.000 As the new age of mobility dawns, this is Wired Magazine writing, selling one car to every person with the money to buy one is no longer viable.

01:56:51.000 They just want to lower their marketing costs.

01:56:53.000 Okay?

01:56:54.000 You can get thousands of percent return if you just buy a few politicians instead of spending all this money on focus groups and television ads and all this kind of stuff to build something that people want.

01:57:07.000 Because, you know, you're not going to have a stake in the future.

01:57:10.000 The future, as they see it, is where a few multinational billionaires working with the government control and own everything.

01:57:17.000 And that's where we're headed.

01:57:19.000 So right now what you're seeing is these alliances that are building up.

01:57:22.000 You've got GM aligning itself with Lyft.

01:57:25.000 You've got Uber.

01:57:26.000 Out there floating massive stock offerings, getting not a half a billion dollars, but getting, I think they're over 20 billion dollars that they've gotten off of Wall Street.

01:57:35.000 And of course, it's, you know, we'll give you the control of the transportation grid, and you can make all the profits, and then you feed us all the information.

01:57:44.000 Where's everybody going?

01:57:46.000 If we don't like this person, we will shut them down just like we do right now with a no-fly list.

01:57:51.000 And the automobile manufacturers are a little bit smarter about the way they're doing this Then Google is.

01:57:55.000 Google wants to go, as they put it, with a moonshot.

01:57:58.000 They want to make the leap all the way from people driving in the cars to people getting into a car that has no steering wheel, no brakes, and say, trust me, okay?

01:58:06.000 And they've already got, I think it is four times the accident rate that human drivers have with their Google self-driving cars.

01:58:16.000 And they're getting some restrictions put on them in the state of California.

01:58:19.000 Now they're moving to Austin to try to put this through.

01:58:21.000 But you have other traditional automobile manufacturers are doing this more gradually because that's the way you roll stuff out.

01:58:29.000 That's been the theme of the day, I think.

01:58:31.000 The incrementalism of gradual infringement.

01:58:34.000 They say gradually we're going to get people to turn over control of their lives, control of their movements to the car.

01:58:41.000 But you're really turning it over to the people who own and run those robots.

01:58:46.000 The government and a few corporations.

01:58:47.000 We'll be right back.

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02:00:01.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

02:00:04.000 Live from Austin, Texas, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones. .

02:00:32.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:33.000 I'm David Knight.

02:00:34.000 We're going to be talking to our reporters in Oregon this hour.

02:00:37.000 Before we do, I want to cover some other news that is breaking.

02:00:41.000 Up on the Drudge Report, there's an article saying, do not track, does not include, guess who?

02:00:45.000 The big guys, Facebook, Google, Yahoo, and others like that.

02:00:49.000 And of course, what the article points out is that, surprise, surprise, the do not track regulatory process that was coming out of the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, Does not include the big guys.

02:01:02.000 Isn't that interesting?

02:01:03.000 You know, somebody said regulations are like a spider web.

02:01:06.000 They catch the small gnats, but the big bumblebees go right through the web.

02:01:11.000 And that's what we see all the time.

02:01:13.000 Understand that in many cases, just like we see in small businesses and towns, many cases it's the existing restaurants that want more regulation, that want tighter rules, that want higher requirements for getting into business because they want to shut down their competition.

02:01:29.000 They're already on the ladder to success and they want to shut off and cut off the lower rungs of that ladder.

02:01:36.000 So you see that happening even in local business areas, but it certainly is there when you're talking about the big multinational corporations that have so much money and can buy so many politicians in just the right place.

02:01:49.000 They point out the FTC relied on a group that was dominated by powerful internet companies to set up these regulations.

02:01:55.000 Companies like Google, Facebook, Yahoo, His business depends on online advertising.

02:02:00.000 Well, fine, they say.

02:02:01.000 Incredibly, the same big players who hijack the process could make this one-sided policy a de facto global standard.

02:02:10.000 Oh, really?

02:02:11.000 What do you think the Trans-Pacific, Trans-Atlantic partnerships are about?

02:02:15.000 These are written by a few large corporations and their corporate lawyers.

02:02:21.000 The elected representatives and the countries that were going to be signing on to this were not even allowed to see it.

02:02:27.000 Okay?

02:02:28.000 And now that it has been there, nobody is paying any attention to it.

02:02:31.000 And of course, it is massive.

02:02:32.000 It's four times the collected works of Shakespeare.

02:02:36.000 I forget how many times it is larger than the Bible, three or four times larger than the Bible itself.

02:02:40.000 But these big guys are writing the regulations, and guess what?

02:02:44.000 They're going to make sure that only they own everything. 0.87

02:02:47.000 We have infringements in these trade agreements.

02:02:50.000 They're not really trade agreements.

02:02:51.000 They're not even really about free trade.

02:02:53.000 The Democrats and Republicans are pretending that this is a traditional debate as to whether or not we're going to have tariffs or whether or not we're going to have free trade.

02:03:01.000 Who gets to benefit?

02:03:02.000 Is this going to impact the unions?

02:03:03.000 And so you've got people lining up with their traditional constituency.

02:03:07.000 Democrats with the unions and Republicans saying, oh, we want to have free trade and open business.

02:03:11.000 That's not what it's about, folks.

02:03:13.000 It's not at all about free trade.

02:03:15.000 It's about controlling the internet.

02:03:17.000 It's about giving a few people infinite and unending copyright controls.

02:03:21.000 It's about allowing them to use that copyright control to shut down free speech and take over the internet.

02:03:27.000 That's why it's being opposed by a lot of privacy groups and this is what we're seeing with this type of thing.

02:03:32.000 It brought immediate criticism from third-party ad tech companies like AppNexus which said that the do not track standards put them at a corporate disadvantage.

02:03:42.000 You don't understand.

02:03:43.000 That was the point in the first place.

02:03:46.000 It was never there to protect your privacy.

02:03:49.000 It was there to put other people out of business.

02:03:53.000 We saw this happen with the banks, right?

02:03:55.000 The bank bailouts.

02:03:56.000 Who got the bank bailouts?

02:03:57.000 Well, interestingly enough, you know, the big seven guys, the ones who are too big to fail, they get the big bailouts.

02:04:02.000 But as Drudge was reporting at the time, every year we would see the tally at the end of the year.

02:04:08.000 You know, 130, 150 more banks go out of business.

02:04:10.000 Those are the small guys.

02:04:11.000 Those are the competitors to the guys who own Washington.

02:04:14.000 And nothing that the big guys could do, nothing the big banks could do, would ever harm them.

02:04:20.000 Even when they were caught laundering money for the Sinaloa drug cartel.

02:04:24.000 You had HSBC giving the Sinaloa drug cartel, you know, El Chapo.

02:04:28.000 Everybody was all freaked out about El Chapo getting out of prison.

02:04:32.000 What a horrible thing that was.

02:04:33.000 This guy is loose.

02:04:34.000 Well, guess what?

02:04:36.000 The largest banks, the too-big-to-fail banks, was given a pass by the Obama Attorney General.

02:04:42.000 He said, I wouldn't help to take any criminal sanctions against these guys, even though they gave El Chapo his own personal window to launder money.

02:04:51.000 They slapped them on the wrist and said, no problem.

02:04:54.000 That's how this rolls out.

02:04:55.000 That's why this is not about your privacy.

02:04:58.000 This is about a corporate fascism, a corporate takeover of our government.

02:05:04.000 Stay with us.

02:05:04.000 We'll be right back.

02:05:05.000 In response to President Obama's plan to enact gun control through executive order, Texas Governor Greg Abbott said, come and take it.

02:05:18.000 Abbott tweeted out, quote, Obama wants to impose more gun control.

02:05:22.000 My response, come and take it.

02:05:24.000 The president will meet with Attorney General Laurie Lynch to discuss what executive actions he's going to take to infringe the Second Amendment while bypassing Congress.

02:05:32.000 The word is he's going to try and prevent people on the government's no-fly list from being able to purchase firearms.

02:05:37.000 But, as we previously reported, thousands of law-abiding Americans have been wrongly placed on the no-fly list due to false information, clerical errors, or political persecution.

02:05:48.000 In fact, it violates the Fifth Amendment's guarantee of due process by allowing the government to deprive people of their rights based only on suspicion.

02:05:55.000 In other words, Obama wants to dictatorially restrict the Second Amendment rights of thousands of Americans.

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02:08:33.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:35.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

02:08:36.000 We're going to be joining our reporters at the bottom of the hour.

02:08:39.000 They're going to be in Oregon.

02:08:40.000 Going to get a live update as to what is happening there.

02:08:43.000 Of course, the media is portraying this as armed fanatics who want to overthrow the government.

02:08:50.000 We're going to talk a little bit about the background in this particular case.

02:08:54.000 I do feel that taking over this federal facility, as we've said, just plays right into the hands of Obama.

02:08:59.000 I feel that it is a bad tactic and I feel like they're not looking at the overall strategy.

02:09:05.000 This was a very egregious case and we should focus on those details and get people to understand other things that they can do about this, but get people on board before they Go this route.

02:09:16.000 As Stuart Rhodes was saying, he said, look, you're frustrated?

02:09:20.000 You want to take the fight to them?

02:09:21.000 You don't have to do that.

02:09:22.000 Believe me, the fight is coming to you.

02:09:24.000 Okay?

02:09:25.000 Don't be the one to fire the first shot.

02:09:28.000 The one who fires the first shot loses.

02:09:31.000 That's why we had a Pearl Harbor. 0.98

02:09:33.000 FDR wanted to make sure that they fired the first shot.

02:09:36.000 And he was willing to pay a horrific price in terms of lives, in terms of the Navy's equipment for that.

02:09:44.000 Now, I want to talk about, and we're going to, of course we look at what's happening with the stock market.

02:09:49.000 The Dow is still down about 400 points, about 2.5%.

02:09:51.000 You know, that's one casino.

02:09:54.000 I'm going to talk about a rigging of the multi-state lottery.

02:09:59.000 That's kind of the poor man's casino.

02:09:59.000 How about that?

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02:11:17.000 Okay, so the poor man's casino, the lottery system.

02:11:22.000 We have reported in Denver the Colorado Lottery is investigating whether its lottery was rigged.

02:11:29.000 An Iowa man is now set to go on trial there in July.

02:11:31.000 He's accused of buying tickets with numbers that he knew would win in several states, including Colorado, and then collecting.

02:11:38.000 Now, who is this guy?

02:11:40.000 Well, it turns out he's the head of security for the Multi-State Lottery Association.

02:11:46.000 He created the system that generates the winning numbers.

02:11:49.000 This guy's name is Tipton.

02:11:52.000 He has already been convicted of rigging the Iowa lottery.

02:11:54.000 He faces 10 years in prison for that.

02:11:57.000 But while appealing that, he is now being charged in connection with rigging lotteries in five other states, including Colorado.

02:12:04.000 That's something that the mainstream media is not reporting.

02:12:07.000 The fact that they are rigging the system, and you still got poor people who are pouring their money into this casino.

02:12:16.000 That's something that I know people are free to do.

02:12:18.000 Hey David, just to cut in here, I wanted to show you that if you look on screen, Joe Biggs is at the press conference in Oregon right now.

02:12:23.000 He'll be joining us live in the next segment.

02:12:26.000 Press conference right now, you can see Joe Biggs over the shoulder of Eamon Bundy, and he is currently having a press conference.

02:12:32.000 Do we have an audio feed on that?

02:12:33.000 Are we going to go to that?

02:12:35.000 County, and for, in this valley, and for protecting their private property.

02:12:42.000 And these things are what this is about.

02:12:47.000 That because we have allowed our federal government to step outside the bounds of the Constitution, they have come down upon the people and are prosecuting them now directly.

02:12:58.000 They are coming down into the states and taking over the land and the resources, putting the people into duress, putting the people into poverty, and putting entire counties and entire states into undue obedience.

02:13:17.000 I have asked that Shauna Cox read you what we have titled the Notice Redress of Grievance.

02:13:25.000 And to give you a little background, we have spent several weeks, two months to be exact, In petitioning the state and the local county representatives to stand for the Hammonds against these unconstitutional actions.

02:13:45.000 And we have done this through petitions, we have done this through... Alright, let's pull that back and as we talked about that and I absolutely agree with him and we have We have written articles on Infowars.com talking about the constitutional basis and the unconstitutional actions of the federal government, and he was exactly right.

02:14:07.000 They do not have the jurisdiction to come down into the territories, but of course, we see the acquiescence of the sheriffs in letting them do that.

02:14:17.000 And what do you do in an area that doesn't want to protect people's rights?

02:14:20.000 And that's the real key issue there.

02:14:22.000 They have a reservation mentality.

02:14:24.000 As I pointed out, the federal government owns over half the land in Oregon.

02:14:27.000 And as other people have pointed out, over half the people in that area work for the federal government.

02:14:32.000 So they basically have a slave mentality.

02:14:34.000 I think that's why they won't stand up and fight it.

02:14:36.000 And if they don't want to stand up and fight it, that is the wrong place, the wrong time to do it.

02:14:42.000 People have to, you have to have a core of people We're going to stand up in opposition and stand together peacefully to take back their freedoms.

02:14:50.000 There are many ways that we can do this.

02:14:52.000 We can do it at the state level with state nullification.

02:14:53.000 We can do it at the individual level with jury nullification.

02:14:57.000 This whole thing could have been short-circuited if we had jurors who knew their rights and their duties as jurors.

02:15:04.000 And that is to make sure that you don't have someone like this rancher, that someone who is a law-abiding citizen, get railroaded By the federal government.

02:15:13.000 Let me jump now to this article that Kurt Nemo has.

02:15:17.000 Hammonds were targeted because the government wants to steal their land.

02:15:21.000 And he quotes from an article in October by the Tri-State Livestock News.

02:15:26.000 And it's very interesting because in this article, They have quotes from retired full-time BLM employees and others who know what the inside game is here.

02:15:36.000 According to the article, the BLM often worked with ranchers on collaborative burns to manage invasive juniper that steal water from the grass and from other cover.

02:15:46.000 Aaron Maupin, a former BLM range technician and watershed specialist and rancher in the area, said backfires by other ranchers had burned BLM land in the past and the agency had not taken action.

02:15:58.000 During her tenure as a full-time BLM employee from 1997 to 99, Maupin recalled other fires that had accidentally spilt over onto BLM land, but only the Hammonds, only the Hammonds have been charged.

02:16:11.000 Arrested and sentenced, she said.

02:16:13.000 Ranchers, quote, would call the BLM, would go out to help them put it out, and it wasn't a big deal, unquote.

02:16:19.000 On the other hand, she said, there were numerous instances of BLM fires spreading to private land and ranchers losing significant number of cattle and other property.

02:16:29.000 Moffin said she was unaware of the BLM compensating ranchers for any of their private destroyed property.

02:16:35.000 And she points out, he does in this article I should say, that BLM recklessness is not limited to Oregon.

02:16:41.000 Kurt Nemo quotes, he says, in 2013, two South Dakota prescribed burns started by the U.S.

02:16:48.000 Forest Service over the objections of area landowners, blew out of control, burned thousands of acres of federal and private land.

02:16:55.000 Ranchers that suffered property damage from the Potray Fire in Perkins County, South Dakota, filed extensive tort claims in accordance with federal requirements, but will receive no compensation.

02:17:06.000 Because USDA, Department of Agriculture, found the U.S.

02:17:09.000 Forest Service wasn't responsible for that fire.

02:17:12.000 Just like we see happening with the EPA.

02:17:14.000 We know the EPA intentionally polluted the Animas River.

02:17:18.000 Okay?

02:17:19.000 That is something that a geologist, Dave Taylor, wrote in a July 30th editorial, predicted this massive spill that happened back in August.

02:17:26.000 He said, look, The EPA plan is really a blitzkrieg for a superfund.

02:17:31.000 This guy was a retired engineer.

02:17:33.000 He said what they're proposing to do is going to blow that mine up.

02:17:37.000 It's going to create a massive environmental issue, and they're going to use that to increase their power.

02:17:44.000 He said the grand experiment, in my opinion, will fail, and guess what?

02:17:48.000 They'll say, well, Plan A didn't work, so I guess we'll have to build a treatment plant that will cost taxpayers $100 million to $500 million.

02:17:55.000 He says, reading between the lines, I believe that has been the EPA's plan all along.

02:18:00.000 And then we found out a couple of weeks later, on August 22nd, we found out that the EPA knew of the blowout risk for the tainted water at the mine.

02:18:08.000 And then there was an investigation by the Department of Interior.

02:18:11.000 Found out the EPA was solely responsible for the toxic mustard-colored waters that contaminated rivers in Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, and the Navajo Nation back in August.

02:18:22.000 The EPA claimed that the spill was, quote, likely inevitable, but research carried out by the Interior Bureau of Reclamation disagreed.

02:18:30.000 The spill released arsenic, mercury, lead, other contaminants into the Animas River.

02:18:34.000 Thousands of drinking water wells as far as 100 miles away created a natural disaster.

02:18:41.000 Then guess what?

02:18:42.000 We find out that the contractor behind this spill got $381 million from the taxpayers.

02:18:50.000 Same thing we see all the time.

02:18:52.000 The government does these irresponsible, massively irresponsible operations, damages beyond belief the property and the water or the land of other people, and then hold themselves absolutely not responsible.

02:19:06.000 They don't even pay for the cleanup, let alone fire anybody, let alone send anyone to jail for criminal negligence.

02:19:12.000 No, they do it, and they do it with immunity.

02:19:15.000 Now Kurt Nemo goes on to point out, as part of this deal to fend off an effort by federal government to designate the Steens Mountain as a federal monument, ranchers in the area traded their BLM permits and private property for land on the valley floor and allowed Congress to create a 170,000 acre wilderness in 2000.

02:19:33.000 Now, Moppen went to say the last holdouts on that cow-free wilderness are the Hammonds, right?

02:19:39.000 They want to get rid of them.

02:19:40.000 They want to force them off the land.

02:19:42.000 Why?

02:19:43.000 Because a geological survey indicates there's a high potential for silver, gold, copper, mercury, uranium, and molybdenum.

02:19:49.000 Okay?

02:19:50.000 This is exactly what's happening in Arizona with John McCain.

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02:19:58.000 Destroying the park so they can hand over copper licenses to a multinational corporation.

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02:24:09.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:24:32.000 I'm David Knight, and we're going to be joined by reporters in Oregon shortly.

02:24:34.000 As you can see, they were at the press conference that Ammon Bundy was having there at the federal facility that they've taken over.

02:24:42.000 And they're going to be joining us with a report in just a moment.

02:24:45.000 Before they do, let's go to something that's a little bit light.

02:24:48.000 This is an article that I saw in the Drudge Report from the Daily Mail and I thought it was crazy and hilarious.

02:24:54.000 It's a New Year's message from Coco the Gorilla.

02:24:57.000 Because, you know, they've tried scaring us with Al Gore.

02:25:00.000 They've tried appealing to us and saying, you know, this is more important than anything.

02:25:05.000 The religion of global warming is more important than the Catholic religion or Christianity or whatever with the Pope.

02:25:10.000 So they've tried Al Gore, they've tried the Pope, so you still don't get it.

02:25:13.000 Well, they're going to roll out the 800-pound gorilla in the room. 0.96

02:25:16.000 Maybe you'll pay attention.

02:25:17.000 And what does he have to say?

02:25:18.000 Or she says?

02:25:19.000 This is Coco.

02:25:20.000 The gorilla says, uh, stop destroying the planet. 1.00

02:25:24.000 Man, stupid. 1.00

02:25:25.000 Well, you know what? 1.00

02:25:28.000 Monkey see, monkey do.

02:25:29.000 The real story behind this is the educational aspect of this.

02:25:33.000 And of course, you know, I've got a border collie myself.

02:25:35.000 And this, my border collie is every bit as smart as this gorilla. 0.99

02:25:39.000 And even better, because my border collie doesn't think man is stupid. 0.99

02:25:43.000 My border collie thinks man is awesome. 0.94

02:25:46.000 And my border colleague understands that all this stuff about global warming doesn't have even a proper context.

02:25:53.000 Remember, we had the founder of the Weather Channel being interviewed by Alex Jones, and he was talking about how they don't even have a baseline to talk about a one degree change.

02:26:03.000 You know, we're supposed to believe that a one and a half degree change, a two degree change, is going to destroy the Earth.

02:26:10.000 We don't have a baseline for that.

02:26:12.000 When you go back and you look at the few data points that they have with that kind of accuracy, understand, they can go in and they can extrapolate things from ice cores or whatever, but they don't, can't get down to that level of accuracy.

02:26:24.000 So, you know, when we look at their models, their models, for the most part, untestable, because they're talking about things that are 50, 100 years in the future.

02:26:34.000 But where their models can be tested, they've been shown to be wrong.

02:26:38.000 They've shown to fail.

02:26:39.000 Now, my border collie understands all that.

02:26:42.000 Because my border collie listens to me talk to my wife and my children about all this stuff, and, you know, look at me, look at my wife, nod his head, yeah, I agree.

02:26:50.000 And so my border collie understands all this stuff, but this gorilla has been thoroughly indoctrinated by some people who have taught it a script.

02:26:57.000 You know, some of the stuff this gorilla is saying, he says, I am gorilla, fix earth, help, fix the earth, okay?

02:27:03.000 I am flowers, animals, I am nature, Coco, love man, earth, Coco, love, okay?

02:27:09.000 Coco has been given a script.

02:27:12.000 Coco has been thoroughly indoctrinated.

02:27:14.000 And you know what?

02:27:15.000 If you don't take control of your children's education, Your children are going to be monkey see, monkey do.

02:27:22.000 Just like Coco. 0.95

02:27:23.000 They're going to repeat all the nonsense that is stuffed into their head about climate change, about global warming, about white privilege, you name it. 0.71

02:27:33.000 Whatever the government's agenda is, that's what they're going to repeat to you.

02:27:36.000 Because that's fundamentally what education is about anymore.

02:27:40.000 It's not about giving children tools of learning.

02:27:42.000 It's not about cultivating independent thought.

02:27:45.000 It's not about establishing a love of individual liberty.

02:27:49.000 It's about getting them to do what the government wants.

02:27:52.000 That has been the goal and the purpose of education, and I think you can see it very easily with this video.

02:27:58.000 And of course, as Alex had pointed out earlier when he was talking about the TSA, he said, the TSA is nothing but dog training.

02:28:04.000 That's right.

02:28:05.000 So, you got a dog, you got children, make sure they're getting the right kind of training.

02:28:10.000 Make sure that you understand what they're being taught in school.

02:28:14.000 Question them if you send them to school.

02:28:15.000 Of course, we can't all homeschool our kids.

02:28:17.000 But you need to understand what they're being taught in school.

02:28:19.000 And I can pretty much tell you at this point, if you're putting them in a government school, that agenda is being set out of Washington.

02:28:26.000 It is an anti-American, anti-humanity agenda that they're giving them.

02:28:30.000 It's an anti-Christian agenda, you name it.

02:28:32.000 It's opposed to pretty much everything that I respect, and that's why we've not put our children in school.

02:28:37.000 We started out, my wife was a school teacher.

02:28:40.000 She saw the way that children were being abused in the system through things like tenure, that they would not allow bad teachers to be fired.

02:28:48.000 We said we're not going to do that to our children, but it's gotten far, far worse than anything that I grew up in.

02:28:54.000 If you went to school, understand the school that your children are in today isn't anything at all like what you went through.

02:29:01.000 So you need to look very closely, very carefully at what is happening to your children or they're going to exploit them just like they exploited this gorilla for that hokey message.

02:29:13.000 Now of course tonight we're going to have Obama He's lecturing us and creating this dog and pony show, working with CNN.

02:29:20.000 They're going to have a crowd there and the crowd is going to say, Obama, we just need you to do more, to take the guns, to control the guns.

02:29:26.000 And the irony, of course, with all of this, is at the same time our government is arming Al Qaeda. 0.54

02:29:33.000 At the same time, they're bringing in all these migrants without any background checks. 1.00

02:29:38.000 And of course, our president never had a background check either, did he?

02:29:41.000 That's part of the problem.

02:29:43.000 The most secretive president we've had, and now he is flooding our country with people from areas that are war-torn because he was bombing them using assassination drones in these countries.

02:29:53.000 Now he's bringing those people into our country to bring unrest. 0.92

02:29:56.000 But they're going to focus on what's going on in Oregon.

02:29:58.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

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02:30:09.000 Thanks to the Federal Reserve System, America's economy is in a terminal decline.

02:30:12.000 And according to economic expert Michael Snyder, here's 8 facts that reveal just how bad the economy really is.

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02:30:37.000 population.

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02:30:53.000 And it's been estimated that 62% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.

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02:30:58.000 One-third of all Americans with student loans are currently behind on their student loan debt.

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02:33:17.000 It's Alex Jones.

02:33:21.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:23.000 I'm David Knight, your host, and we're going to go to our crew who are live at the standoff in Oregon.

02:33:28.000 Just quickly before we do, if you want to call in and talk about this or anything that we've been talking about during the show, the number is 800-259-9231.

02:33:34.000 Again, that number is 800-259-9231.

02:33:34.000 Let's go to our crew.

02:33:35.000 Joe Biggs is on the ground at the standoff in Oregon.

02:33:37.000 And that number is 800-259-9231.

02:33:39.000 Let's go to our crew.

02:33:40.000 Joe Biggs is on the ground at the standoff in Oregon.

02:33:43.000 Joe?

02:33:43.000 Joe Biggs here with Infowars.com.

02:33:47.000 Now we're live outside of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

02:33:51.000 And as you can see, the press conference just ended.

02:33:54.000 Fox News, CNN, various other News agencies were just covering that.

02:33:59.000 We were able to get a lot of footage of that.

02:34:01.000 Ammon Bundy was the main speaker at this and also a couple other people that you brought up as well.

02:34:06.000 Some other ranchers that could help people understand what it is ranchers go through and how this federal overreach really affects Americans and how that in the end can end up affecting a lot of the people out here.

02:34:20.000 From what we heard today, Ammon Bundy said that the Hammonds are supposed to be turning themselves in to jail.

02:34:26.000 They've already been to jail once, and now they're saying that they are having to go back again for another sentence as well.

02:34:34.000 So this really shows you the overstepping of the federal government, how they're going out, they're seizing land, they're really hurting American people everyday hard-working people, you know yesterday I was on Twitter and the main trending Hashtag was Oregon under attack.

02:34:49.000 Well, I don't see anything under attack We're in the middle of nowhere David as you can see tomorrow left to my right for all you can see is nothing but land They're actually gonna take some people down here and show the building that was taken over.

02:35:02.000 This is the only area we have a signal in.

02:35:04.000 But as you can see, there's no organ under attack.

02:35:07.000 And people keep saying, why are they calling Black Lives Matter protesters, terrorists? 0.96

02:35:10.000 Why aren't they calling this white terror? 0.94

02:35:12.000 And the thing is, is when we were in Baltimore, they were burning down businesses, flipping cars, demolishing stuff, vandalizing places.

02:35:20.000 And now you have this out here.

02:35:23.000 They basically took an unoccupied building and they are standing in protest.

02:35:29.000 There's no people here that can be harmed.

02:35:30.000 There's no one around here that can be hurt by this.

02:35:33.000 I've seen no cops today.

02:35:34.000 Nothing like that whatsoever.

02:35:35.000 But the interesting thing about that Is tonight, the speech that Obama is going to give, is he going to use this situation and keep pushing the mainstream narrative that white terror is out here, that white terror breeds, that these are the ones that are carrying out attacks, that that's the real threat, not ISIS, that he himself is the one that's actually funding and giving arms to.

02:35:59.000 Yeah, absolutely, Joe.

02:36:00.000 And of course, just to clarify for people, what is happening here is you've got mandatory minimums, as I was talking to Lionel earlier in the show.

02:36:07.000 You've got mandatory minimums that came on as part of the drug war.

02:36:12.000 Later, they added them after the Oklahoma City bombing, and that's what they're doing with this.

02:36:17.000 They said, well, OK, we're going to call this arson, which means that it's terrorism, so we're going to send these people to jail for a minimum of five years.

02:36:23.000 The judge in that time said, that would be a sentence that would shock the conscience to me.

02:36:28.000 So that judge Refused to sentence them for that amount of time, but now we've got another prosecutor and an appeals judge who want to continue to push for this and they're going to make them go back and serve a minimum of five years.

02:36:39.000 It is an absolute travesty of justice.

02:36:43.000 But clearly, you know, I've seen the hashtag Oregon under attack.

02:36:46.000 I took that to mean not that there was violence going on, except for the fact that Oregon is being attacked by the feds.

02:36:53.000 And that's an ongoing attack that's been going on for a very long time that people need to wake up.

02:36:56.000 I'm just afraid that this particular action in terms of taking over this facility is going to be very, very counterproductive, especially with Obama doing his dog and pony show tonight with the town hall calling for executive order on gun control.

02:37:12.000 Yeah, like Alex said yesterday, the timing is all wrong right now.

02:37:15.000 They have that, they can use that, they can go and say, look at this.

02:37:19.000 You've got these armed militiamen who have overthrown a federal building, completely living out the facts that the fact that this is in the middle of nowhere, it was an unoccupied building, and no lives are in danger from that.

02:37:32.000 And they're going to use that to push that anti-gun agenda, which is what he's done every year.

02:37:37.000 Last time we were in Oregon, we were here at the Umpqua College when the mass shooting happened there, and what did he do?

02:37:43.000 flew in and pushed his anti-gun agenda.

02:37:46.000 And that's what he does.

02:37:47.000 That's the final blow of his presidency.

02:37:49.000 He wants to do as much as he can to take guns away from law-abiding citizens here in America.

02:37:57.000 That is the horrible fact about this entire thing, is the fact that he won't even admit to the fact that he's arming and allowing ISIS to operate and do all this, but then he wants to attack people like this who are standing up against a tyrannical government that is really but then he wants to attack people like this who are standing up against a tyrannical government that is really over a set of boundaries.

02:38:15.000 And that's one of the things Ammon Bundy was talking about earlier.

02:38:18.000 He wants there to be another hearing where evidence can be brought forward about the Hammonds, the proof they have.

02:38:25.000 They said they have proof, the family does, of being bullied and intimidated by the federal government.

02:38:29.000 Lots of stuff that they talked about during the press conference.

02:38:34.000 Well, we're getting some break-up from you, Joe.

02:38:36.000 We're getting some break-up from you.

02:38:38.000 Of course, what they really need to do is people need to understand jury nullification.

02:38:42.000 They can shut this down.

02:38:43.000 I mean, Bloomberg themselves are talking about how in over half of the cases that are brought against gun dealers, the juries refuse to convict the people there.

02:38:52.000 The other aspect of this, which is very, very troubling, is this article that's up on Infowars.com.

02:38:56.000 Liberal media tweets a call for the National Guard, for cops to confront the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupiers, and you see this picture on the article, End White Terror.

02:39:07.000 What they're really calling for is them to end white lives, because white lives don't matter to these people, and that's what they do. 0.90

02:39:14.000 They always break this down into white versus black, into racial strata.

02:39:17.000 We can announce now that the interview that Alex Jones is having is with Louis Farrakhan, trying to see if there is something that can be done to try to stop this intentional divide between people, black and white, between people in the city, people in the rural area.

02:39:33.000 I would like to see some of the people in the rural areas start to come out against civil asset forfeiture.

02:39:38.000 That is a criminal part of the new war on, well, the new war on drugs.

02:39:42.000 That's not the new war on drugs.

02:39:44.000 The war on drugs has been with us for 44 years.

02:39:47.000 It's going into its 42nd year now.

02:39:49.000 An absolute failure.

02:39:51.000 And of course the guy who's running it with the Drug Enforcement Agency is saying that it's an absolute failure, but he's not going to stop it.

02:39:57.000 All he will possibly do is add some drug treatment But of course, he's still going to use the hammer of law enforcement to try to deal with this.

02:40:08.000 And the concern about this is not just that they're using law enforcement to deal with it, but the fact that they are destroying law enforcement to deal with this.

02:40:17.000 They're turning our police into highway robbers, literally, with civil asset forfeiture.

02:40:22.000 So I would like to see a recognition by people in the rural areas that, hey, this war on drugs is counterproductive.

02:40:28.000 It has actually been a war of drugs on the black community.

02:40:31.000 It has brought about violence.

02:40:33.000 It has brought about a monopoly for organized crime to grow.

02:40:36.000 It has destroyed our legal system.

02:40:38.000 It has destroyed our property rights.

02:40:40.000 Those are property rights everybody could understand.

02:40:42.000 When they steal your cash, when they steal your car, don't even charge you with a crime, That is essentially the same principles that these people are doing out in the rural areas.

02:40:51.000 They have different motivation.

02:40:52.000 They want to grab the mineral rights that are there so they can hand that off to their crony capitalist friends.

02:40:57.000 We lost contact with Joe, but Joe's back now.

02:41:01.000 Joe, your comment. 0.99

02:41:02.000 You know, yesterday or last night, I don't know if Montel Williams was on a drunken Twitter rampage, but he was tweeting out stuff like, I hope the federal government, you know, attacks these guys, shoots them all. 1.00

02:41:14.000 These guys are terrorists. 0.99

02:41:16.000 They should be treated like terrorists. 1.00

02:41:18.000 You know, I wish there would be a drone strike. 0.65

02:41:19.000 I mean, you can pull up Montel Williams' Twitter page.

02:41:22.000 He said some pretty horrendous stuff.

02:41:24.000 And it's not just him that thinks that.

02:41:25.000 There's a lot of people out there that are Looking through what this mainstream media is over here and what they're pushing out saying that this is a you know a terrorist takeover when actually it's not.

02:41:36.000 It's a peaceful stance against the government.

02:41:40.000 that is completely out of control, which is overstepping its boundaries, it's overstepping the Constitution.

02:41:46.000 It clearly doesn't care about that whatsoever.

02:41:49.000 It's hurting real American families out there that are trying to work hard and provide and work the land and reap the benefits of labor.

02:41:57.000 So that's what's going on.

02:41:58.000 You've got just crazy people that are out there that are just spewing this stuff.

02:42:04.000 And this is what's really going on.

02:42:06.000 A peaceful stance.

02:42:07.000 I don't see anything.

02:42:08.000 There's not going to be any cars flipped today.

02:42:10.000 There's not going to be any vandalism.

02:42:11.000 There's not going to be anyone shot.

02:42:13.000 You know, hopefully Obama doesn't take this, send out federal agents, and then really spark something up and then use that and go, hey, they shot first.

02:42:22.000 We didn't do it.

02:42:22.000 Now we really need a crackdown on gun control.

02:42:25.000 Absolutely.

02:42:25.000 We can see that it's a peaceful situation there, as you pointed out.

02:42:27.000 You know, we've had the situation you covered multiple times, what was going on in Ferguson.

02:42:31.000 You had peaceful protesters who were saying, we have a broken system here.

02:42:35.000 We need some reforms.

02:42:36.000 We need to fix this.

02:42:37.000 And yet there were inside agent provocateurs who would go out and start violence, start burning buildings in that neighborhood.

02:42:45.000 But of course, nothing like that is happening here at this point.

02:42:47.000 So it truly would be a travesty to see that.

02:42:51.000 Well, certainly we hope that that story will come through over what the mainstream media is doing.

02:42:56.000 Of course, the mainstream media is putting this as an armed group that aims to overthrow the government, that they're not going to leave until the 187,000 acre wildlife refuge is handed over to ranchers.

02:43:08.000 Did you have anything, did you hear anything in the press conference from Emmen Bundy as to what the end goal was of this takeover?

02:43:16.000 Well, what he wanted, what his demand was, was for the people who have Basically, put the Hammonds in a situation where they have to go back into jail again.

02:43:27.000 They're supposed to turn themselves in today.

02:43:29.000 They want them to have another hearing and go back through the evidence, actually break down and bring in people like the Bundys, bring in other people. 0.86

02:43:38.000 They want to be able to have an opportunity to present evidence from the Hammonds, the family that they have.

02:43:45.000 To really show that what's happening is completely unlawful and that's what they're saying.

02:43:49.000 That's what their endgame is.

02:43:50.000 That's what they want and they said they'll stand out here and they'll stay out here as long as possible.

02:43:55.000 And add to the fact that people said armed militia took this place over.

02:43:59.000 I've been out here for a couple hours.

02:44:00.000 I've seen a lot of the militiamen.

02:44:02.000 I haven't seen any guns yet whatsoever.

02:44:05.000 But it still is a heated standoff because it's heated in the sense that we don't know what's going to happen with that speech tonight.

02:44:11.000 Obama could really am things up and really push the narrative that this is white terror, that we need guns gone, and that's what we have to wait for tonight. 0.62

02:44:22.000 So everyone should be in anticipation seeing what President Obama will say in that speech tonight.

02:44:26.000 Tomorrow should be an interesting day after that is done.

02:44:30.000 Yeah, and of course that's news in terms of new demands from M and Bundy that he wants a retrial rather than kind of a nebulous goal that we were seeing yesterday that, well, we just want everybody to come here and we're going to take back the government.

02:44:42.000 I mean, that's not going to happen any more than calling on Obama to resign.

02:44:46.000 But perhaps they can get a new trial, and I would hope that if they do get a new trial that people educate Get educated about jury nullification.

02:44:54.000 That's what really needs to happen there.

02:44:56.000 People need to look at this and say, you know what, you're going to send these people to jail for five years.

02:44:59.000 I don't care if there was a fire that technically violated the law.

02:45:02.000 That is an unjust punishment.

02:45:04.000 We're going to shut that down.

02:45:05.000 I hope that happens.

02:45:06.000 Well, Joe, I'm not going to keep you out there in the cold.

02:45:08.000 I know it is incredibly cold.

02:45:09.000 What is it, about 20 degrees out there right now?

02:45:12.000 A little bit less than that.

02:45:14.000 One of the spots we were at earlier was five degrees, so it's definitely chilly.

02:45:18.000 Okay.

02:45:18.000 And we don't have sweatpants or gloves or boots or anything.

02:45:23.000 It's insanely cold there.

02:45:24.000 Hopefully we'll get a chance to go get some of that stuff for tomorrow.

02:45:27.000 It's insanely cold there.

02:45:27.000 Okay.

02:45:28.000 That's one of the reasons why I think, you know, a call for everybody to come to that area right at this, it's a bad timing.

02:45:33.000 Just bad timing.

02:45:34.000 Even if it wasn't somebody trying to get this aligned with Obama's gun grabs.

02:45:39.000 I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me.

02:45:41.000 But thank you so much.

02:45:42.000 It's important for us to get that message out that nothing violent is happening there right now so that nothing violent gets started on the side of the feds.

02:45:49.000 Thank you so much, Joe.

02:45:51.000 All right, that's Joe Biggs, our reporter on the ground there at the Oregon standoff.

02:45:55.000 And as he pointed out, there is no violence going on there.

02:45:59.000 Of course, that's what the mainstream media is trying to push this for.

02:46:02.000 They want to stress the fact that these are armed yahoos. 1.00

02:46:06.000 I think there was even a Twitter list.

02:46:09.000 Paul Joseph Watson is going to be on the next hour and he can talk about that, but I think it was in his article.

02:46:14.000 There are some tweets out there, they're calling them Y'all-Qaeda, trying to turn them into terrorists.

02:46:19.000 These people are not terrorists.

02:46:19.000 You know what?

02:46:21.000 You can look at the Hammonds and, if anything, I mean, they're not trying violence, they're not trying to intimidate people for political purposes.

02:46:30.000 They're too apolitical, in my opinion.

02:46:32.000 They don't understand how this affects them.

02:46:34.000 They don't understand how it affects other people.

02:46:36.000 They're too timid in terms of standing up for their rights.

02:46:38.000 But nevertheless, That just makes it all the more the place that you don't have this kind of stand.

02:46:46.000 What made the Bundy Ranch work?

02:46:48.000 What made these other places work?

02:46:49.000 People who are being oppressed, not given their due process, having their rights trampled on.

02:46:54.000 We saw at the Bundy Ranch they had a First Amendment area.

02:46:58.000 You know, it's not an area.

02:46:59.000 The First Amendment is not an area.

02:47:01.000 It's a right.

02:47:02.000 They were doing that.

02:47:03.000 They were attacking the people there.

02:47:04.000 They were trying to steal their land.

02:47:05.000 They asked for help.

02:47:06.000 Their neighbors stood with them.

02:47:09.000 People from the outside stood with them.

02:47:11.000 They stood non-violently to get their property back and try to get their rights back.

02:47:15.000 The problem is, these people in Oregon don't seem to know what their rights are.

02:47:20.000 And they don't have the backbone to stand up for it.

02:47:23.000 This is terrible miscarriage of justice.

02:47:26.000 The judge himself said that.

02:47:28.000 He says, I'm not supposed to use the word fairness in criminal law, but this is a sentence that shocks the conscience in me.

02:47:36.000 It was actually an absolutely crazy sentence to have to give these people a five-year jail sentence.

02:47:43.000 I think it was an outrage that they went to jail for three months.

02:47:45.000 The elder Hyman went to jail for three months and the younger one went to jail for one year.

02:47:50.000 I think that was an outrage.

02:47:52.000 Because as we pointed out in the article from Kurt Nimmo, there have been multiple cases of doing the same thing.

02:47:57.000 For management, having a fire.

02:48:00.000 When you burn 139 acres out of 26,000 acres, that's less than a half of a percent of that land.

02:48:09.000 That's a tiny amount.

02:48:10.000 And in these two fires, the 2001 blaze burned 139 acres.

02:48:14.000 The one in 2006, for which only Stephen was convicted, burned an additional acre of land.

02:48:20.000 One acre!

02:48:21.000 One acre out of 26,000.

02:48:22.000 And the federal government wants to send people to prison.

02:48:25.000 Meanwhile, they do their own so-called control burns, and they get out of control.

02:48:29.000 They have destroyed livestock.

02:48:31.000 They've destroyed other private property.

02:48:33.000 They will not compensate anyone for that.

02:48:35.000 But they will send you to jail, even though nothing happened with that.

02:48:39.000 I want to go to some of the calls right now.

02:48:40.000 Let's get your comments here.

02:48:43.000 Paul in New Mexico, you wanted to comment on the Oregon situation.

02:48:46.000 Go ahead.

02:48:47.000 Yeah, I just want to say, you know how Spock from Star Trek would say, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

02:48:57.000 I mean, that's not the case with this situation.

02:48:59.000 We need to, they need to, I know we all have a livelihood, we all need to make money, we all need to put a roof over our head, but if at all possible, we need to out-think these globalists and Use our brains, don't let our emotions rule our brains.

02:49:18.000 So that's basically what I have to say.

02:49:20.000 I agree.

02:49:20.000 I think we need to make common cause with people on a number of issues.

02:49:23.000 I think one of the key things, Paul, is that people on the right don't seem to recognize the war on drugs for what it is, how it has destroyed our legal system, how it has destroyed Property rights.

02:49:35.000 And I think they need to stand together.

02:49:38.000 I think they need to stand together with the people who are opposing gun control.

02:49:41.000 You know, we have people on the Second Amendment. 0.81

02:49:43.000 They're very protective of their rights for the Second Amendment, but they don't protect people's rights when it comes to this out-of-control, illegal, unconstitutional war on drugs.

02:49:52.000 We need to get a broader spectrum.

02:49:54.000 We need to get people to come together who are, right now, compartmentalized on the left and compartmentalized on the right, between white and black, between city and rural.

02:50:03.000 I mean, what do you think about that?

02:50:07.000 Yeah, sure.

02:50:08.000 Just, you know, the divide and conquer and stuff, you know, just like Alex says, you know, just using all these instigators and agitators.

02:50:18.000 I just think, basically, that's all I have to say.

02:50:21.000 I think We need to try to out-think these globalists, you know, and if at all possible.

02:50:26.000 If at all possible, you know, just try to... I agree.

02:50:32.000 Selfish, you know, about our individual needs and whatnot.

02:50:35.000 So, that's all I've got to say.

02:50:37.000 I know they're very frustrated.

02:50:37.000 I agree.

02:50:39.000 I know they've been through this before.

02:50:40.000 I think one of the things that really struck a...

02:50:42.000 A accord with the Bundys is probably this family is one of the last ranchers in this area.

02:50:50.000 Read that in the Kurt Nimmo story.

02:50:51.000 They got all the rest of the ranchers out and they're going to punish them just like they did the Bundys. 0.99

02:50:56.000 I think that really resonated with them.

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02:54:06.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:54:17.000 I'm David Nye, and we're going to go back to your calls.

02:54:19.000 And for those of you that are on hold, I'll let you know that we're going to carry those forward to the next hour.

02:54:23.000 Paul Joseph Watson is going to be joining us.

02:54:25.000 I'll be taking calls in the first five-minute segment at the top of the hour.

02:54:30.000 Let's go to Ted in Tennessee.

02:54:33.000 Ted, this is a different topic than Oregon.

02:54:35.000 You wanted to talk about self-driving cars that I brought up.

02:54:37.000 Go ahead.

02:54:38.000 Yes, about the self-driving cars.

02:54:41.000 I have an organic cattle farm.

02:54:43.000 I think It would be great to have those because I can't get anyone to work.

02:54:49.000 So therefore, I can't leave the farm to go like to the co-op or to the hardware store or whatever.

02:54:57.000 If I could send a car to go and pick the stuff up and bring it back, it would be great.

02:55:04.000 You know what?

02:55:04.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:55:05.000 There's some really good uses for it.

02:55:06.000 I mean, you can take your daily commute and instead of driving, you can sit there and tweet and play with Facebook.

02:55:12.000 You can do a lot of things like that.

02:55:13.000 I understand a lot of people don't want to drive.

02:55:15.000 A lot of the people who are really pushing this really hard are not comfortable with cars.

02:55:18.000 Here's my problem with it, Ted.

02:55:20.000 The problem is that they're not going to allow you to have a choice, okay?

02:55:23.000 Understand that they're going to gradually drive you out of the car.

02:55:27.000 They're going to do that by saying if you're driving your car from a rural area where there isn't a network, and understand that, you know, you're looking at this from your organic cattle farm, those are going to be the last places that come online.

02:55:37.000 This is going to be rolled out in the cities at first.

02:55:40.000 But they're going to look at it.

02:55:41.000 They're going to monitor the way that you drive.

02:55:43.000 They're already bringing vehicle-to-vehicle communications being mandated by the Department of Transportation, Federal Department of Transportation.

02:55:49.000 So that's an additional cost that you're going to be mandated to pay for.

02:55:52.000 And then those V-to-V communications are going to be talking about you.

02:55:56.000 They're going to be broadcasting everything about the way you drive, how fast you drive, where you drive.

02:56:00.000 They're going to be monitoring everything.

02:56:01.000 You're not going to have any privacy.

02:56:03.000 They'll be able to shut down your car.

02:56:06.000 If they don't like what you're doing, they'll be able to keep you from taking robot cars if they don't want you moving around.

02:56:12.000 Just like they're restricting people's transportation right now with the TSA, saying that we're going to force you to get Real ID, force these states to recognize Real ID, or the people from these states aren't going to travel unless they get something like a passport.

02:56:26.000 That's my concern about it.

02:56:27.000 The fact that they're not going to give you a choice.

02:56:29.000 The fact that they're going to use this to surveil you, to control your movement.

02:56:33.000 Do you have a concern about that?

02:56:35.000 No, because I don't leave the farm.

02:56:38.000 I've had three days off in the last 18 years.

02:56:43.000 Well, that's just it.

02:56:44.000 That's the bottom line.

02:56:46.000 You're not going to be able to leave the farm.

02:56:47.000 It won't be your choice.

02:56:48.000 But I understand where you're coming from.

02:56:50.000 I want to have my freedom.

02:56:52.000 I remember I see GM teaming up with Lyft.

02:56:55.000 I grew up hearing the jingle, see the USA in a Chevrolet.

02:56:58.000 Those of you who are old enough to do it.

02:56:59.000 That was pushing the idea of freedom.

02:57:02.000 That's what I think is important.

02:57:03.000 The freedom to move about.

02:57:05.000 That is a fundamental freedom.

02:57:06.000 It was core to what I saw and appreciated about America in the middle of the 20th century.

02:57:12.000 And I don't think it's something that we need to give up.

02:57:14.000 Uh, for convenience or for anything else.

02:57:16.000 That's what I'm concerned about.

02:57:17.000 I've seen the government bureaucrats wanting public transportation just salivating over this for a very long time, and this is the way they're going to do it.

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03:00:39.000 I've got some callers on the line.

03:00:41.000 I wanted to get through as many of those as we could and see perhaps Paul will want to talk to them.

03:00:46.000 We'll leave that decision up to him.

03:00:47.000 Let's go to Anthony in Florida.

03:00:49.000 He wanted to talk about the Oregon standoff.

03:00:51.000 Go ahead, Anthony.

03:00:53.000 Hello, yes.

03:00:54.000 I'd like to say that I think it's important to take a step back, take a few steps back, and just observe what is going on, because that is, of course, the best way to go about it.

03:01:09.000 And also that, like I've seen before, this is all part of the chessboard to basically try to make their moves on violating our rights.

03:01:20.000 And I also would like to say that I got a great slogan that would look great on a billboard or whatever.

03:01:30.000 Gun control is not the solution to the problem.

03:01:33.000 Gun control is the problem.

03:01:35.000 Absolutely.

03:01:36.000 Gun control is not really about controlling guns.

03:01:38.000 It's about controlling people.

03:01:39.000 And that's why I was talking about self-driving cars in that context.

03:01:43.000 Of course, you've got people like Ted I was just talking to.

03:01:45.000 He said, hey, I don't ever leave the farm.

03:01:47.000 I just want to send this stuff out and not have to drive it.

03:01:47.000 I don't care.

03:01:50.000 You know, you have to understand the broader issues involved.

03:01:53.000 You have to understand how these things interconnect together, and you have to see the consequences of not being able to move.

03:01:59.000 You know, it may be convenient under some circumstances, but in the bigger picture, that's going to be a very dangerous thing.

03:02:05.000 I agree.

03:02:06.000 We need to take a step back.

03:02:07.000 We need to look at the overall context.

03:02:09.000 Let's go to Tim in Wyoming.

03:02:10.000 Tim, you want to talk about Oregon.

03:02:11.000 Go ahead.

03:02:12.000 Hi, David.

03:02:13.000 Yeah, I wanted to mention, I read an article yesterday.

03:02:17.000 I think this was right after the takeover of the building took place.

03:02:23.000 And it was written for a newspaper in Oregon.

03:02:27.000 Obviously, the extremely liberal reporter was saying that one of the spokespeople or one of the people who was speaking in relation to the situation said, she called the person, the reporter called the person A so-called patriot.

03:02:44.000 I'm a member of the so-called patriot movement.

03:02:47.000 And I thought to myself, well, that sounds like, I mean, not only are they saying that anybody who has the idea that patriotism is proper, They're being demonized, but not only that, they're trying to get the rest of the country, I mean, getting the rest of the country behind this and trying to say, like I said, this is a newspaper in Oregon where I read this.

03:03:11.000 And I thought to myself, well, not only does it make the people look bad who are actually patriots, but The people that are there on the ground, this isn't part of what the article said, but I think that the people on the ground are making themselves out to be targets.

03:03:28.000 I mean, you have to stand up for liberty.

03:03:30.000 You have to stand up for what's right.

03:03:31.000 You have to tell people, this is what I believe, this is what I will do, this is what you should do.

03:03:37.000 And when people don't do that, when they don't stand up and say, this is how life should be, we should actually resist tyranny, we should tell the government they are our employees, not the other way around.

03:03:49.000 Of course, when you do that, Tim, they're going to call you a sovereign citizen.

03:03:54.000 One of their labels.

03:03:55.000 And many people, I think even Cliven Bundy didn't realize when that label, they were trying to stick that label on him with the media.

03:04:01.000 I think it was actually Glenn Beck that tried to do that.

03:04:03.000 He didn't realize the full import of that term for law enforcement.

03:04:07.000 That is a very specific term that means something very threatening to law enforcement.

03:04:12.000 So if somebody wants to hang that label on you, I mean, I have no problem with citizens who are sovereign.

03:04:18.000 Citizens who say that the government was created to protect my rights.

03:04:23.000 The citizens are above the government.

03:04:25.000 We are not its slaves.

03:04:26.000 That's the basis of the founding principles of our government laid out in the Declaration of Independence.

03:04:31.000 That we create governments to protect our individual liberties and when those governments become destructive of those liberties, It is our right and duty to alter or abolish it.

03:04:40.000 I mean, that's the real key.

03:04:41.000 But you say that, and they call you sovereign citizen, and they have drilled it into the police and law enforcement that sovereign citizens are people who are going to shoot them dead on sight.

03:04:50.000 And so they've got their finger on the trigger if they see that label applied to you.

03:04:54.000 It's very important that we look at these labels, and that's one of the reasons why we're there.

03:04:58.000 We don't want to see them spin this in the wrong direction.

03:05:02.000 Stay with us when we come back.

03:05:03.000 Paul Joseph Watson will be hosting from the UK in the rest of the fourth hour.

03:05:09.000 At least 20 armed militia members, including three members of the Bundy family, have seized control of a federal building at the Milor National Wildlife Refuge about 50 miles southeast of Burns, Oregon.

03:05:18.000 The occupation is in response to the persecution of two Oregon ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr.

03:05:23.000 and Stephen Hammond, Who were convicted of a federal arson charge under an anti-terrorism law.

03:05:27.000 In 2006, the Hammonds started a controlled burn to stop the spread of a lightning storm fire which threatened their ranch.

03:05:33.000 The backfire saved their home and much of their property, but five years later the federal government, particularly the Bureau of Land Management, claimed the Hammonds were terrorists who started the fire to damage federally controlled land.

03:05:43.000 The feds sent Dwight and Stephen to prison and are threatening to take their 12,000 acre property if they do not pay the BLM $200,000.

03:05:51.000 InfoWars reporter Joe Biggs and other crew members will be on the scene giving live updates.

03:05:55.000 You can also follow Alex Jones on Facebook and the Alex Jones channel on YouTube for the latest developments on the situation.

03:06:02.000 And check back on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv for more news and this is Kit Daniels reporting.

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03:08:26.000 Hello, it's right with me, your host, Paul Joseph Watson.

03:08:29.000 Now obviously we're talking about Oregon.

03:08:31.000 We've been talking about it for the whole show.

03:08:33.000 As you know by now, a group of individuals in defense of the Hammonds who are involved in a dispute with the federal government.

03:08:40.000 Took over a remote building in the middle of nowhere in Oregon, which was completely empty and unoccupied.

03:08:48.000 Took it over without force.

03:08:50.000 No bloodshed, no violence whatsoever.

03:08:54.000 And what was the hashtag?

03:08:55.000 The leftists and social justice warriors chose to represent this news development on Sunday, the hashtag that was trending all day to describe this group of individuals taking over a building, an empty building in a remote area with no one there.

03:09:13.000 The hashtag was Oregon under attack.

03:09:18.000 Of course, you would think that Godzilla had arrived and was breathing fire, and literally it was the apocalypse.

03:09:25.000 Of course, the entire state of Oregon was not under attack.

03:09:29.000 It was a remote federal building, empty, in the middle of nowhere, but that's how leftists and social justice warriors framed it, because they have this racist obsession with declaring everything that white men do as terrorism.

03:09:45.000 If you remember during the San Bernardino attacks, The first report said that it was potentially three white men involved in carrying out the attack.

03:09:55.000 As soon as that became known on Twitter, it was, why isn't the media saying that this is white terrorist?

03:10:02.000 This is obviously an act of domestic terrorism, and white people are responsible for it. 0.93

03:10:07.000 Of course, then it slowly seeped out that the guy's name was Farooq, these were Islamic radicals, and it was like, move along, nothing to see here.

03:10:15.000 And for days, they were talking about workplace violence, when it was obviously a jihadist-inspired attack.

03:10:22.000 Of course, they lost all luster, For this feverish need, this feverish clamour to define everything as white terrorism when very few details were available in that case. 0.61

03:10:34.000 But even with all the details available in this case, again, not a hostile takeover, no violence.

03:10:42.000 The protesters themselves have said that they don't want any violence.

03:10:46.000 Of course, if you look at the definition of terrorism, Which these people have no idea what it means.

03:10:52.000 It's the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

03:10:57.000 Again, no violence whatsoever.

03:11:00.000 They took over.

03:11:01.000 They trespassed.

03:11:02.000 Is the summary of their crime so far.

03:11:05.000 They trespassed into a government building.

03:11:08.000 Empty.

03:11:09.000 In the middle of nowhere.

03:11:10.000 But according to the left, that's domestic terrorism. 0.98

03:11:13.000 Because white people did it. 0.99

03:11:15.000 Because the left is flagrantly racist. 0.97

03:11:19.000 So they're complaining about the media not describing this as domestic terrorism, even though they now are.

03:11:25.000 CNN reports, their own national security analyst, Juliet Kayyem, said there's no doubt the armed protesters in Oregon are domestic terrorists.

03:11:35.000 They haven't committed an act of terror, nor are they threatening to, but they're domestic terrorists.

03:11:40.000 Quote, simply because they are not Muslim jihadists does not mean they are authorized to threaten or use violence to support their political cause.

03:11:48.000 Of course, they haven't used violence and they haven't threatened to use violence, but that doesn't matter. 0.99

03:11:52.000 They're white, so they're domestic terrorists. 0.98

03:11:54.000 So, despite the fact that the media, the leftist media, is now describing them as domestic terrorists in some quarters, the left is still irate that this isn't being described as white terrorism. 0.96

03:12:08.000 In comparison to what happened in Ferguson and Baltimore with the Black Lives Matter uprising, Which, of course, the media described as a social justice movement.

03:12:20.000 If you can pull up the Time Magazine article, Ferguson in defense of rioting is the headline.

03:12:28.000 That's how the media treated scores of violent protesters setting fire to buildings, setting fire to vehicles, threatening police, looting stores there in Ferguson.

03:12:41.000 That was a social justice movement.

03:12:43.000 Burning down a city is progressive.

03:12:46.000 Occupying a remote empty building in the middle of nowhere, that's terrorism.

03:12:52.000 That's terrorism according to the left and the social justice warriors.

03:12:56.000 So to see that trending on Twitter yesterday, I was responding to it in real time of course.

03:13:02.000 And these were, this is an example of some of the comments that these leftists were making.

03:13:07.000 One of them said, quote, did I miss the call for the National Guard in Oregon?

03:13:11.000 I recall them in Ferguson and Baltimore.

03:13:14.000 Well, the difference is, buildings weren't being burned down and looted left, right and centre in Oregon, OK?

03:13:21.000 Oregon is not under attack.

03:13:23.000 Godzilla has not landed and is not breathing fire.

03:13:26.000 That's why the National Guard isn't there.

03:13:29.000 I mean, listen to Joe Biggs.

03:13:30.000 He just called me up in the last hour or so.

03:13:32.000 There's nothing happening.

03:13:34.000 There are no Feds there.

03:13:35.000 There's one guy in a watchtower.

03:13:37.000 And basically nothing's happening.

03:13:39.000 Yes, you can call it criminal.

03:13:41.000 Yes, you can call it trespassing.

03:13:43.000 It's blatantly not domestic terrorism.

03:13:45.000 If they had gone into a government building and killed two dozen people and then taken over the building in a hostile takeover, then yes, that would be domestic terrorism.

03:13:56.000 That isn't the case.

03:13:57.000 And as I tweeted, and CNN has included this in their article today, justified or not, it's a protest against government abuse of power.

03:14:07.000 If Oregon is terrorism, then so is Black Lives Matter. 0.99

03:14:12.000 Okay, that's all it is.

03:14:13.000 Whether you agree with their grievance or not.

03:14:16.000 And Alex has made the point that this seems rash.

03:14:19.000 This seems misguided.

03:14:21.000 The Oath Keepers have come out and said that they're not affiliated with it.

03:14:25.000 The Hammond family aren't affiliated with it.

03:14:27.000 And it doesn't seem like a good idea.

03:14:30.000 But to claim that it's domestic terrorism is completely crazy.

03:14:34.000 It's insane.

03:14:35.000 Because if you say that this is domestic terrorism, then so is Black Lives Matter. 0.62

03:14:40.000 And so then the leftists say, oh yes, but these people are armed.

03:14:45.000 That proves that it's domestic terrorism. 0.85

03:14:48.000 Well, if you go back to a headline on Infowars.com from back in March, armed black militants call for murder of cops.

03:14:55.000 That's right, you had Black Lives Matter agitators walking down streets in Austin, armed with semi-automatic weapons, calling for the murder of cops.

03:15:06.000 I don't see anyone in Oregon calling for the murder of cops.

03:15:10.000 And again, I don't even agree with what they've done.

03:15:12.000 It seems completely misguided, misdirected.

03:15:15.000 The protesters who were initially there on the Saturday, they weren't fully informed about what they were planning, so it was kind of spontaneous.

03:15:24.000 It wasn't well planned out, as they claim.

03:15:26.000 But the leftists are saying this is an armed act of domestic terrorism and it's not comparable to Black Lives Matter because they were not armed.

03:15:34.000 Well, they were armed. 0.99

03:15:35.000 They were walking down the street in Austin chanting, the only good pig is a pig that's dead with semi-automatic rifles. 0.99

03:15:44.000 Here's another report out of the Conservative Tribune. 0.99

03:15:48.000 Armed gangs of Black Panthers are now openly patrolling neighbourhoods.

03:15:52.000 The new Black Panther Party has been suspiciously silent about their unfortunate part in the Ferguson debacle.

03:15:57.000 Thankfully for those of you following the zany antics of Eric Holder's favourite group of militants, they've popped up again.

03:16:04.000 And it describes how they're marching down streets in Dallas, we had it in Austin and also now in Dallas, armed, calling for the murder of cops.

03:16:14.000 Okay, that's more within the definition of domestic terrorism than anything that's happening in Oregon right now. 0.99

03:16:23.000 But of course the left won't make that comparison because they're complete hypocrites and they're racists. 0.99

03:16:29.000 They're obsessed with defining anything that white person does as terrorism. 1.00

03:16:33.000 You don't judge whether it's terrorism or not based on a person's skin color.

03:16:38.000 It's based on violence, it's based on motive.

03:16:41.000 Okay, Dylan Roof.

03:16:43.000 Did he have a political motive?

03:16:45.000 Yes.

03:16:45.000 Did he commit violence in pursuit of that political motive?

03:16:47.000 Yes. 0.74

03:16:48.000 He was a domestic terrorist. 0.99

03:16:50.000 He was white. 0.99

03:16:51.000 Okay, Farouk, the San Bernardino killer.

03:16:54.000 Did he have a political motive?

03:16:55.000 Yes.

03:16:56.000 Did he commit violence in pursuit of that political motive?

03:16:59.000 Yes.

03:17:00.000 He was a Muslim. 1.00

03:17:01.000 He was also a terrorist. 0.99

03:17:03.000 You don't define a terrorist based on their skin colour.

03:17:07.000 Again, this is the regressive left reverting back to their inherent racism time and time again. 1.00

03:17:14.000 So if Oregon's domestic terrorism, then so is Black Lives Matter. 0.70

03:17:18.000 The difference, of course, is that Black Lives Matter, their inspiration, whose name they chant on the streets at every Black Lives Matter protest, was actually a domestic terrorist! 0.92

03:17:32.000 Assata Shakur, she was a convicted cop killer. 0.88

03:17:36.000 She fled to Cuba, killed a cop in New Jersey before that.

03:17:40.000 She's on the FBI's most wanted terrorist list. 0.99

03:17:44.000 This is the inspiration, the foundational inspiration, that the originators of Black Lives Matter name as their ideological guru. 0.96

03:17:55.000 And she's a domestic terrorist and a convicted cop killer. 1.00

03:17:59.000 Of course you've had Black Lives Matter activists or agitators planning to bomb police stations in Ferguson. 0.84

03:18:07.000 You had Ishmael Brinsley in New York at the turn of last year, December 2014, killing two cops on the streets of New York as part of what was later Discovered and confirmed to be a Black Lives Matter revenge attack.

03:18:22.000 That was an act of domestic terrorism.

03:18:24.000 The media didn't even report it as that at the time, but it was an act of domestic terrorism.

03:18:30.000 So you've had Black Lives Matter supporters actually committing acts of domestic terrorism.

03:18:35.000 You've got armed Black Lives Matter supporters walking down streets in Austin, walking down streets in Dallas, armed with semi-automatic rifles, calling For cops to be killed. 0.85

03:18:47.000 And cops have already been killed by Black Lives Matter supporters. 0.80

03:18:52.000 That is domestic terrorism.

03:18:55.000 And again, if there's a massive standoff and there's a shooting war, then yes, that's a separate debate.

03:19:01.000 But so far, in Oregon, you can't call it domestic terrorism.

03:19:06.000 They're basically just occupying public property to protest against alleged abuses of power.

03:19:13.000 So if you call that domestic terrorism, then what is Occupy Wall Street?

03:19:17.000 That's also got to be defined as domestic terrorism.

03:19:20.000 It was a group of protesters occupying public property, breaking laws to protest, whether justified or not, depending on your political viewpoint, against abuses of power.

03:19:32.000 So if Oregon's domestic terrorism, Occupy Wall Street was domestic terrorism. 0.98

03:19:37.000 But the regressive left won't tell you that because they're hypocrites and they're racists. 0.98

03:19:42.000 The Mizzou protests a couple of months ago. 0.99

03:19:44.000 The wave of protests across universities again.

03:19:48.000 Occupying public property to protest against abuse of power.

03:19:52.000 Was that domestic terrorism?

03:19:54.000 No, they won't call it domestic terrorism. 0.99

03:19:56.000 It's only domestic terrorism if white people are involved because the left are inherently racist. 0.83

03:20:02.000 We'll be back with more news on the 4th Hour Overdrive on the Alex Jones Show. 0.94

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03:24:26.000 And CNN's top security analyst is saying that the Oregon situation is domestic terrorism.

03:24:31.000 So occupying public property is now terrorism.

03:24:34.000 Unless you're left-wing, then it's social justice. 0.83

03:24:39.000 The Mizzou protest.

03:24:40.000 Occupy Wall Street.

03:24:41.000 Again, occupying public property to protest against abuses of power.

03:24:47.000 The exact same situation in Oregon.

03:24:50.000 And again, nobody's died, no buildings have been set on fire, nobody's been injured.

03:24:55.000 In fact, there's a good meme which I tweeted earlier, comparing Black Lives Matter with Oregon under attack, which is what they chose to describe it as yesterday.

03:25:04.000 Ferguson.

03:25:06.000 12 civilian cars and 2 police cars destroyed.

03:25:09.000 Hundreds of shots fired.

03:25:10.000 25 businesses burned down.

03:25:13.000 13 injuries.

03:25:14.000 1 death.

03:25:15.000 That was during the Ferguson riot.

03:25:18.000 Baltimore.

03:25:19.000 144 cars destroyed.

03:25:21.000 60 buildings burned down. 0.97

03:25:23.000 And again, most of these businesses are owned by black people. 0.97

03:25:26.000 They were destroying their own community. 0.99

03:25:29.000 60 buildings burned down, 130 cops injured.

03:25:33.000 That was Ferguson and Baltimore.

03:25:35.000 Compare that to Oregon.

03:25:36.000 Zero injuries, zero deaths, zero property, businesses or cars destroyed, zero shots fired, zero police injured.

03:25:45.000 Yeah, apparently according to the left.

03:25:47.000 This is domestic terrorism, and now CNN's top security analyst is saying that it indeed is domestic terrorism. 0.89

03:25:56.000 Again, complete hypocrisy from the left. 0.83

03:25:59.000 They're obsessed with race-baiting. 0.99

03:26:01.000 They're obsessed with describing anything, any act, political act whatsoever, carried out by white people as an act of terrorism. 0.91

03:26:09.000 And their narrative is quickly beginning to melt.

03:26:13.000 In fact, there's a whole host of memes comparing, for example, There's one that says, This picture was captured during white terrorist recent assault on the wildlife refugee gift shop.

03:26:24.000 And it shows a scene of fire and war and bloodshed.

03:26:28.000 Of course, nothing's happened.

03:26:29.000 They occupied an empty remote building in the middle of nowhere.

03:26:34.000 Again, misguided.

03:26:35.000 Rash, you could say.

03:26:37.000 But certainly not domestic terrorism.

03:26:39.000 And anyone who claims that is clearly, completely erroneous.

03:26:44.000 Let's move on to some of this other news now, though.

03:26:47.000 New Year's Eve in Germany and Sweden, there was this rash of astounding stories, one of which came out of Cologne train station, and again this is the cultural enrichment that we're importing into the West via this migrant wave, and basically hardly any, in fact I haven't seen one, media report in English-language media about this, mainstream media.

03:27:11.000 This is out of Breitbart.com.

03:27:13.000 1,000 plus migrants brawl, rape, sexually assault and steal at one German train station on New Year's Eve. 0.99

03:27:22.000 And you go through this story, we don't have time to go through it all, but dozens and dozens of examples of women being groped by lines of migrants, Turkish migrants in this Cologne train station. 0.87

03:27:36.000 Stories of women being raped.

03:27:38.000 Of course we know the rapes in and around migrant camps in Germany are being covered up by the police because they don't want to legitimize critics of mass migration. 0.82

03:27:47.000 You've got Merkel working with Zuckerberg to censor anti-migrant posts on Facebook and basically they went nuts. 0.89

03:27:55.000 On New Year's Eve in Germany, they were throwing fireworks at people, they were groping women, raping women. 0.98

03:28:02.000 Of course, the feminists were completely silent about it. 1.00

03:28:05.000 They're more concerned about sexist air conditioning and being triggered by clapping.

03:28:09.000 Not a word, not a single word from them. 0.99

03:28:12.000 Basically, these migrants went completely nuts. 1.00

03:28:14.000 This is a long article, it goes through every example. 0.61

03:28:17.000 These migrants were from North African and Arab countries, according to the police report.

03:28:23.000 And they went insane.

03:28:25.000 They went on a rampage at Cologne train station on New Year's Eve.

03:28:30.000 Here's another story out of Sweden. 0.59

03:28:33.000 In Kalmar, a group of newly-arrived asylum-seekers chose to celebrate New Year's Eve by sexually molesting young Swedish women. 0.99

03:28:40.000 The newspaper 24 Kalmar reports, the gang made up of newly-arrived asylum-seeking men, age 25 to 30, went to Lantoga in central Kalmar, this Swedish town, where they started to surround young Swedish girls and began groping them.

03:28:57.000 We also have this video out of Belgium, which we can play now.

03:29:00.000 Teenagers set Christmas tree on fire in New Year's Eve Rampage.

03:29:05.000 A video of teenagers lighting a petrol bomb under a Christmas tree, while yelling Allah Akbar to spark outrage in Belgium.

03:29:12.000 The incident occurred in a square near the Clemenceau metro station in Anderlecht, in the Belgian capital Brussels, on New Year's Eve.

03:29:20.000 So again, a number of incidents.

03:29:23.000 We had another one in Germany, in Mönchengladbach, Bleak Christians, militant Muslim youth storm a Christmas service at a church in Mönchengladbach, Germany. 0.90

03:29:34.000 Basically, they stormed the church, they interrupted the Christmas festival that was going on there, shouted expletives, rampaged through the church.

03:29:43.000 Again, this is the cultural enrichment that we're importing to the West, and no one dares even talk about it because they've been told they were prosecuted.

03:29:52.000 And denouncers hate criminals.

03:29:53.000 We'll be back with more news on the Alex Jones Show 4-Hour Overdrive.

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03:33:08.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

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03:33:35.000 Before the break I talked about this Breitbart article.

03:33:38.000 1,000 migrants basically went nuts in the German train station in Cologne, throwing fireworks at people. 1.00

03:33:45.000 You can watch the video. 0.99

03:33:46.000 Groping young women, raping women in some cases. 0.95

03:33:50.000 Of course, it's in no English-language publication in the West. 0.97

03:33:54.000 It's in a couple of German newspapers.

03:33:56.000 None of the mainstream media will talk about it.

03:33:59.000 You had a similar situation in Sweden, where a group of asylum seekers groped a bunch of young women again on New Year's Eve.

03:34:08.000 That was their way of heralding the new year. 0.98

03:34:10.000 That was their big celebration, to grope and rape a bunch of women, because they're tolerant, you know. 0.98

03:34:15.000 Liberals won't call them out on it because they're not actual liberals and they've abandoned all their liberal principles. 0.98

03:34:21.000 Feminists are too busy talking about sexist air conditioning. 1.00

03:34:24.000 They don't give a damn. 0.99

03:34:26.000 Over 800 cars were set ablaze in France on New Year's Eve. 0.97

03:34:30.000 Again, probably not all Muslim migrants, but as you saw from the 2005 riots in Paris, that's one of their favoured ...forms of entertainment and set cars on fire. 1.00

03:34:42.000 You had a church in Germany being raided and ransacked by militant Muslim migrants.

03:34:48.000 That's not in English language media.

03:34:51.000 You had teenagers in Belgium set fire to a Christmas tree and trapped Chan Allah Akbar. 0.98

03:34:58.000 Again, because we've done such a good job at assimilating them into Western secular culture that they will do this.

03:35:05.000 You had another case of them poshing a vehicle down a subway.

03:35:08.000 I tweeted out that video.

03:35:10.000 And then in Paris...

03:35:12.000 And again, we say, oh, we let the terrorists win if we allow them to change our way of life.

03:35:17.000 Well, in Paris, they have an annual celebration at the Champs-Élysées Arc de Triomphe, and I was there a few days ago, where they have a huge fireworks display on New Year's Eve.

03:35:27.000 They cancelled it because of the threat, the threat from potential terror attacks.

03:35:32.000 So again, allowing the terrorists to change our way of life.

03:35:37.000 Letting the terrorists win.

03:35:39.000 In Paris, they had bag searchers to get into restaurants, not to get into a government building or, you know, a major tourist destination.

03:35:49.000 Just restaurants they were searching people's bags.

03:35:51.000 Of course, these security guards were not armed.

03:35:54.000 So if a pair of jihadists with semi-automatics wanted to shoot their way in, they could do so.

03:36:01.000 So what is the point in searching people's bags?

03:36:03.000 The terrorists aren't going to be all polite and say, oh yeah, have a look inside my rucksack.

03:36:08.000 Here's a bomb.

03:36:09.000 Here's a gun.

03:36:10.000 They're not going to do that. 0.99

03:36:10.000 They're just going to shoot their way in. 0.99

03:36:12.000 All this terror theatre is exactly that. 0.92

03:36:15.000 It's nonsense. 0.87

03:36:17.000 Absolute nonsense. 1.00

03:36:18.000 While they're allowing potential terrorists, unvetted, to flood in via the migrant wave, while ISIS brags about how they're exploiting it in their own manifesto to insert more jihadists into the West to carry out attacks, your stupid bag searches at restaurants aren't going to do anything to stop that. 1.00

03:36:36.000 So again, it's security theatre. 1.00

03:36:38.000 So you had migrants raping women, groping women. 0.98

03:36:41.000 And what have the left said about it? 0.98

03:36:42.000 What have feminists said about it? 1.00

03:36:44.000 For months and months these rapes have been increasing at migrant centres.

03:36:47.000 They've said absolutely nothing because they're not real liberals.

03:36:51.000 They've abandoned their liberal principles and become part of the regressive left.

03:36:57.000 And I just put out a video on YouTube a couple of hours ago about the regressive left, breaking it down. 0.73

03:37:03.000 So now we're going to go to that video.

03:37:05.000 Here it is.

03:37:06.000 Regressive leftists are self-proclaimed liberals who abandon liberal principles by tolerating and defending non-liberal ideologies.

03:37:17.000 When right-wing Christian fundamentalists like the Westboro Baptist Church espouse hatred for gays, adulterers, and anyone who rejects their God, Progressives react with scorn.

03:37:29.000 They chastise such beliefs for being outdated, intolerant, and dangerous. 0.80

03:37:34.000 And rightly so.

03:37:35.000 Yet when Muslims espouse the very same beliefs, self-proclaimed liberals suddenly lose all their liberal convictions and either remain silent or viciously attack critics of Islam. 0.93

03:37:48.000 They contradict their own liberal values by acting as apologists for illiberal ideas. 0.98

03:37:55.000 Remember, polls show that the clear majority of Muslims in numerous Middle Eastern countries support stoning women to death and killing people who leave the religion of Islam. 0.98

03:38:06.000 Last time I checked, those weren't liberal principles! 0.97

03:38:09.000 Oh, that's their culture.

03:38:10.000 You have to respect it.

03:38:11.000 That's right.

03:38:12.000 That's what they say.

03:38:13.000 It's just insane.

03:38:14.000 It's just the one exception. 0.60

03:38:16.000 So why do self-proclaimed liberals act as apologists for the illiberal religion of Islam? 1.00

03:38:19.000 their culture. 1.00

03:38:21.000 Well, to hell with their culture. 0.99

03:38:22.000 So why do self-proclaimed liberals act as apologists for the illiberal religion of Islam? 1.00

03:38:29.000 Let's take a look at a few examples. 0.73

03:38:30.000 The left-wing group Hope Not Hate, which describes itself as anti-fascist, recently compiled a list of anti-Muslim bigots.

03:38:41.000 This list of anti-Muslim bigots included Raquel Saraswati, a headscarf-wearing, devout Muslim who campaigns against honour violence.

03:38:54.000 In Pakistan alone, 1,000 women are executed every single year for honour crimes that include wearing jeans, looking at a man twice, or singing. 0.95

03:39:06.000 So this left-wing supposedly anti-bigotry organisation actually listed a devout Muslim as an anti-Muslim bigot.

03:39:16.000 Simply for drawing attention to this.

03:39:19.000 The list also included Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an ex-Muslim who has dedicated her life to pushing for a reform of Islam to make it more tolerant and more in line with liberal principles.

03:39:30.000 Hirsi Ali had previously appeared on another list.

03:39:33.000 That of Islamist jihadist who murdered her colleague on the streets of Amsterdam in 2004 and promised that she was next. 0.77

03:39:42.000 Hope Not Hate says its goal is to, quote, undermine groups that preach hate, intolerance and division.

03:39:48.000 But in smearing these people amongst numerous other reformists, they are supporting a belief system which promotes hate.

03:39:56.000 Intolerance and division. 0.74

03:39:58.000 This flagrant hypocrisy is a defining characteristic of the regressive left.

03:40:04.000 Okay, but think about it. 0.99

03:40:05.000 And you don't do it by saying to them Muslims are bad. 0.76

03:40:08.000 But you're not saying Muslims are bad. 0.95

03:40:09.000 You are saying that.

03:40:10.000 We're saying the ideas need to be changed.

03:40:13.000 You're saying their ideas are bad? 1.00

03:40:17.000 Killing women for being raped, I would say, is a bad idea. 1.00

03:40:20.000 Yeah, I do. 1.00

03:40:23.000 Hang me for it.

03:40:24.000 And given that leftist groups have aligned philosophically with Islamists in identifying reformists and critics of Islam as the enemy, it's unsurprising that jihadists see this as an opportunity.

03:40:39.000 In its recent manifesto, ISIS discussed how their operatives in Europe would seek to recruit, radicalise and arm left-wing activists because they broadly share the same political goals.

03:40:54.000 So you've got adherence of ISIS which promotes the most intolerant, hateful and violent belief system.

03:41:01.000 Actually reaching out to leftists because they see them as philosophical bedfellows.

03:41:07.000 Glenn Greenwald is another example of a regressive leftist.

03:41:12.000 After doing sterling work exposing NSA surveillance via the Edward Snowden leaks, Greenwald now appears to spend most of his time trying to smear the new atheists, most recently Richard Dawkins, because they're critical of Islam.

03:41:27.000 Despite the fact that Greenwald, as a gay man, would be executed in many Muslim countries.

03:41:34.000 Despite claiming that he's a champion of free speech, Greenwald responded to the jihadist slaughter of Charlie Hebdo cartoonists and staff by attacking the publication itself, labelling it offensive and bigoted towards Muslims.

03:41:51.000 Even though Charlie Hebdo was notorious for its eagerness to offend both Jews and Christians in equal measure.

03:41:59.000 In a Twitter exchange with me, Greenwald suggested that his love of free speech was so strident that he would even defend Nazis.

03:42:08.000 But when I challenged him to defend Donald Trump's free speech rights after his controversial comments on Muslim immigration, Greenwald went completely silent.

03:42:18.000 Regressive leftists ...are only prepared to defend the free speech rights of those with whom they agree.

03:42:25.000 Given the choice between being politically correct or standing by their principles, regressive leftists will choose the former every single time.

03:42:36.000 But Greenwald doubled down on his regressivism, later retweeting an ISIS supporter who once advocated killing homosexuals to endorse his argument during an exchange with Majid Nawaz.

03:42:51.000 This is a defining characteristic of the regressive left. 0.96

03:42:55.000 They will even side with people who would literally execute them in cold blood!

03:43:01.000 Rather than criticise the intolerant aspects of Islam. 0.98

03:43:05.000 Then we have another example of a regressive leftist.

03:43:09.000 Former Russia Today host Abby Martin, who now presents a show on a network funded by Venezuela's communist government.

03:43:16.000 When I drew attention to Martin's ludicrous suggestion that the San Bernardino attacks had nothing to do with Islam, labelling her a regressive leftist, Martin shot back by claiming that anyone who used the term regressive left was merely covering for their, quote, irrational fear of Muslims.

03:43:36.000 Unfortunately for Abbie, the term regressive left was coined by Majid Nawaz.

03:43:43.000 A Muslim!

03:43:44.000 You realize you just epitomized the very reason I coined the term.

03:43:48.000 Yours, a Muslim.

03:43:51.000 Responded Noas.

03:43:52.000 In addition, Martin's claim that people like me who use the term regressive left are just absolving their support for the empire is completely debunked by the fact that I've opposed every single war in the Middle East.

03:44:07.000 So again, Martin exhibited one of the defining characteristics of the regressive left. 0.64

03:44:13.000 Immediately play the Islamophobia card when you're called out on your hypocrisy.

03:44:19.000 But in reacting with such vitriol against anyone who criticises the intolerant aspects of Islam, regressive leftists are themselves engaging in a form of bigotry. 0.96

03:44:31.000 The bigotry of low expectations.

03:44:34.000 Offering themselves up as human shields to defend Islam because of the assumption that Muslims are somehow incapable of handling criticism or debate without becoming violent or feeling persecuted.

03:44:47.000 The regressive left has also formed an unspoken alliance With anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists who claim that every single act of Islamist terror is staged by the CIA or Mossad.

03:45:00.000 Muslim immigrants living in the West also routinely spout the same conspiracies to try and absolve Islam of blame. 1.00

03:45:20.000 While governments have staged individual acts of false flag terror throughout history, to claim that every Muslim massacre is the work of US or Israeli intelligence is both lazy and And an intellectually dishonest ploy to make excuses for violent Islamism. 0.91

03:45:39.000 This again underscores why so many on the left will resort to unprecedented levels of self-delusion so long as it allows them to stick their heads in the sand and deny that there's a problem with Islam.

03:45:52.000 The fact of the matter is that you either oppose religious dictatorship And it's terrorist surrogates everywhere, without distinction, whether it's messianic settlers on the West Bank, or Christian nutbags trying to teach us that we trod the earth the same time as the dinosaurs, or the forces of jihad. 0.51

03:46:11.000 You either oppose this kind of thing root and branch, or you don't.

03:46:14.000 And I'm sorry to say that the anti-war left has failed the test.

03:46:17.000 It has made excuses for our totalitarian and theocratic enemies.

03:46:21.000 Another hotbed of leftist regressivism can be found amongst western feminists. 1.00

03:46:27.000 While screeching endlessly about a college rape culture that doesn't exist, Feminists have been completely silent on the very real rape culture that the West is importing. 1.00

03:46:40.000 Muslim migrants pouring into European countries are used to treating women as second-class citizens because Islam is a highly misogynistic and patriarchal religion. 1.00

03:46:52.000 That's why rapes and sexual assaults of women in and around migrant camps Or exploding. 0.96

03:46:58.000 But instead of drawing attention to the need to stem the tide, or in the very least assimilate these migrants into embracing and adopting Western values on how to treat women, what do we hear from feminists?

03:47:11.000 They're too busy whining about the evils of sexist air conditioning being triggered by clapping and beach body advertisements.

03:47:20.000 Listen, it comes down to this.

03:47:22.000 It doesn't matter if you call yourself a liberal.

03:47:25.000 The fact that you constantly defend, make excuses for, and refuse to critique the most illiberal doctrine on the planet, Islam, proves that you're not a liberal. 0.95

03:47:38.000 You're a regressive leftist who is perfectly willing to betray your supposedly ardent principles in a heartbeat.

03:47:47.000 Rather than dare to offend a minority group, even when that minority group holds beliefs that are flagrantly bigoted, extremist and completely contradictory to true liberal values.

03:48:02.000 And here's why it matters.

03:48:03.000 The almost complete absence of powerful voices on the left To denounce the intolerant aspects of Islam has created a vacuum. 0.98

03:48:13.000 That vacuum has been filled by actual extremists, racists and Islamophobes on the far right.

03:48:21.000 The regressive left's failure to criticise Islam. 0.99

03:48:24.000 has amplified the voices of neo-Nazis, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, and actual bigots who just hate Muslims. 0.98

03:48:34.000 That polarization has in turn attracted more Muslims to the extremist message of Islamists. 0.90

03:48:41.000 So in failing to stand up for liberal principles, regressive leftists have ensured that the dialogue will continue to be dominated by extremists on both sides.

03:48:54.000 Regressive leftists are trying to strangle moderate voices by denouncing them as intolerant bigots, while condoning the actual intolerance implicit within Islam. 0.72

03:49:06.000 This will lead to a less tolerant society, resulting in more hatred, more racism, more polarisation, More clampdowns on free speech and less secular liberalism.

03:49:23.000 Okay, that's a video up on YouTube, the truth about the regressive left. 0.97

03:49:26.000 Please get that, share it.

03:49:28.000 It's important because the regressive left, which is mainly white middle-class liberals who think they represent all minority groups, are actually strangling the voices of the Muslim and ex-Muslim reformists, people like Majid Nawaz and Hirsi Ali, who are trying to reform Islam to make it more compatible with liberal principles.

03:49:51.000 So these so-called liberals have completely abandoned those principles because of the terror of being described as politically incorrect.

03:49:59.000 And now you have ISIS saying they're going to reach out to these regressive liberals and try and arm them and radicalize them because they share the same beliefs. 0.82

03:50:07.000 Then you have stories like this out of France again.

03:50:10.000 Muslim screaming Allah Akbar runs over soldier in France wanted to be a martyr.

03:50:16.000 A 29-year-old man who tried to run down soldiers guarding a French mosque, they were guarding a mosque, said he wanted to kill them and be killed himself to appear like a martyr. 0.91

03:50:26.000 He also injured another Muslim.

03:50:28.000 So that's the point.

03:50:29.000 You have jihadists who seek to use violence to impose Islam on the rest of the world, but you also have Islamists Who seek to do the same thing, seek to impose Islam with all its regressivism, all its intolerance, all its abuse of women and minorities through political means. 0.78

03:50:47.000 And the regressive left are acting as cover, running defense for those intolerant and illiberal individuals and ideologies.

03:50:57.000 And it poses a huge threat to free speech at the same time.

03:51:00.000 So that's why it's important.

03:51:01.000 So please get out that video. 0.67

03:51:03.000 Share it on YouTube.

03:51:04.000 We'll be back.

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03:55:08.000 And of course it helps support and expand this operation.

03:55:12.000 That's why your support is crucial.

03:55:15.000 But talking about the regressive left here in the final few minutes, Twitter is the home of the regressive left.

03:55:22.000 And the more these internet ghettos, as Drudge called them, the more our internet content gets segregated into these ghettos, the more, the bigger a threat censorship poses.

03:55:35.000 And now there's an article out of National Review Online.

03:55:37.000 Islam versus free speech. 1.00

03:55:39.000 Twitter surrenders.

03:55:41.000 Listen to the new policy that Twitter is about to impose.

03:55:44.000 In fact, already is imposing.

03:55:47.000 It's clamping down on, quote, hate speech.

03:55:49.000 But wait until you find out their definition of hate speech.

03:55:52.000 This is the policy from Twitter.

03:55:55.000 Quote, Twitter prohibits the promotion of hate content, sensitive topics, and violence globally.

03:56:02.000 So again, as the article points out, we're not talking about the incitement of violence.

03:56:07.000 We're not just talking about that.

03:56:09.000 We're talking about Twitter laying the groundwork to regulate discussion of any topic it deems sensitive.

03:56:17.000 Again, from Twitter's new policy.

03:56:20.000 Quote, hate speech or advocacy against an individual, organisation or protected group based on race, ethnicity, national origin, colour, religion, disability, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, veteran status or other protected status.

03:56:38.000 Translation, Advocacy against religion is now going to be monitored and potentially censored under Twitter's new hate speech policy.

03:56:51.000 Again, has nothing to do with hate speech.

03:56:54.000 This is about, as the article states, banning advocacy against people or groups based on, among other things, religion.

03:57:03.000 This is about censoring criticism of Islam.

03:57:07.000 So isn't it interesting that while Twitter just imposed that policy, you only have to go back a matter of three months for this headline, meet Twitter's second biggest shareholder, Saudi Prince Ali Bin Talal.

03:57:21.000 Saudi billionaire Prince, famous for employing a team of dwarves, is now Twitter's second largest shareholder.

03:57:28.000 So now he's got a stake in Twitter.

03:57:31.000 Weeks later, they impose censorship policies where they're potentially going to be censoring and regulating discussion of quote sensitive topics and criticism of religion, including criticism of Islam.

03:57:46.000 Again, mirroring Facebook's policy imposed by Zuckerberg in league with Angela Merkel, Where criticism of migrants can be deemed racist and people can be prosecuted for that.

03:57:58.000 Of course, you don't even have to make racist or violent comments to be affected by that.

03:58:02.000 The mere knowledge that they're monitoring your free speech when it comes to this migrant crisis will make you less likely to criticize the policy, even if you're not making violent or hateful comments, because it has the effect of chilling good speech.

03:58:18.000 Now Twitter's talking about it.

03:58:19.000 You have feminists going to the UN and saying that ISPs should impose these same rules. 1.00

03:58:24.000 So it doesn't matter if you're not on Twitter, if you're not on Facebook, this is coming down the pipe for everything.

03:58:30.000 And that's why it represents such a threat to free speech and the regressive left, the feminists, the social justice warriors, all right behind you. 1.00

03:58:38.000 That's going to wrap it up, the fourth hour live of the Alex Jones Show InfoWars Nightly News.

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Alex Jones Show - January 04, 2016

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