Alex Jones Show - 20220724_Sun_Alex

00:00:02.000 Big Brother.

00:00:04.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:08.000 You want to stop tyranny?

00:00:10.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 Live from the InfoWars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.

00:00:19.000 Alright, we've got a very special Sunday evening version or type of broadcast.

00:00:25.000 We're always informative, we're always important.

00:00:28.000 But tonight, We're gonna have several special guests in studio in the third and fourth hour.

00:00:35.000 Ali Alexander, Eddie Bravo, Harrison Smith will also be co-hosting.

00:00:41.000 That is coming up tonight.

00:00:47.000 But the planet's really aligned with political crossover in the populist free speech sphere.

00:00:57.000 On Saturday, I was interviewed by Steve Bannon, who was very, very gracious, and I think did a great job, brought up a lot of really important points, basically a full endorsement of InfoWars, and some pretty amazing statements.

00:01:10.000 We're going to be airing a large part of that hour-long interview in this hour.

00:01:16.000 And then, in the second hour, it was on Rockfin at the Alex's War premiere with Glenn Greenwald, Alex Moyer, and myself.

00:01:26.000 That's a streaming service.

00:01:27.000 We're going to play about half the interview.

00:01:29.000 You'll find the rest at Rockfin.

00:01:32.000 Coming up in the second hour today, and that's Glenn Greenwald interviewing me.

00:01:37.000 And it was pretty powerful.

00:01:39.000 And we're also on the eve of this kangaroo court trial, one of three that starts in Austin tomorrow.

00:01:47.000 The Democratic Party and their anti-gun movement using the Sandy Hook folks as their foil.

00:01:54.000 and their admitted plan to try to bankrupt us and silence us and take us off the air and then use that model

00:02:00.000 to ban everybody else's speech. We're on the eve of that unfolding and just to be there

00:02:07.000 and to be talking about the attack on free speech not just here but worldwide and then to see

00:02:12.000 the deep state's activities against me.

00:02:16.000 It doesn't make me mad that they're doing this to me.

00:02:19.000 I know it's designed for everybody else, and they admit it is.

00:02:22.000 And just to see the media and the judges and the system working in concert to say, you can't talk about the First Amendment, you're already guilty when we have this trial, you can't say you're innocent.

00:02:33.000 Well, I mean, a guy found with dead bodies can say he's innocent.

00:02:35.000 You will not tell the jury you're innocent.

00:02:37.000 This is an order.

00:02:38.000 You will not mention the First Amendment.

00:02:42.000 You won't tell them you're bankrupt.

00:02:45.000 You won't tell them any of this so they don't know anything.

00:02:48.000 They're just told he's guilty.

00:02:49.000 Now we're going to tell you how guilty he is.

00:02:52.000 That is beyond even like North Korea.

00:02:56.000 That's beyond Venezuela. 0.97

00:02:57.000 I mean, this is just ridiculous. 0.88

00:03:02.000 If they bother to have a trial in Venezuela or North Korea, Then they at least put on some show. 1.00

00:03:07.000 Usually they just take you out back and shoot you in the back of the head. 0.96

00:03:09.000 But that's where all this is going. 0.82

00:03:12.000 And this is the stuff that happened early on in Nazi Germany.

00:03:15.000 De-platforming.

00:03:16.000 De-banking people.

00:03:17.000 Corporations ganging up and taking folks out of the market.

00:03:21.000 Then you're put in ghettos, then you don't get trials, or you don't get fair trials, then you don't get trials.

00:03:25.000 I mean, this is real bonafide tyranny.

00:03:28.000 The stuff you read about in history books, you just get angry hearing about corrupt government like this, and then you see it, and it's weird, laughing, smiling, leptist, almost all of them women. 0.99

00:03:38.000 It's like, oh, they're women, so they get to violate everybody's rights. 1.00

00:03:42.000 It's cute and fun. 0.96

00:03:43.000 Oh, you're a convicted pedophile, but you dress up like a woman, so you can come into the public school and have five-year-olds sit in your lap. 1.00

00:03:50.000 I mean, just unbelievable to have a bird's eye view, a 35,000 view, but also a point-blank range view. 0.99

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00:04:59.000 A decade ago, folks laughed, self-driving robot cars about to hit Nevada highways.

00:05:03.000 They passed a law.

00:05:05.000 Soon there won't be any truck drivers anymore.

00:05:07.000 There won't be any checkout lanes anymore.

00:05:09.000 Why the future doesn't need us?

00:05:11.000 And then the technocrats, they're designing the infrastructure.

00:05:16.000 They're designing the system.

00:05:17.000 They're designing all of it, not to empower humanity and build up humanity. 0.84

00:05:22.000 The vaccines, the GMO, reduce fertility, dumb you down.

00:05:25.000 They frame the whole thing.

00:05:28.000 That is a foregone conclusion that your brain will be transplanted in a machine, and copies of it will be distributed out, and death will be conquered.

00:05:36.000 They want a transhumanist new dark age for the rest of us, turning off our resources in a post-industrial world, while in high-tech reservations, the new class system, they have the advanced tech, which people beg for like a slave-mad iPad, like a slave-created iPad. 0.77

00:05:52.000 Made at slave factories with suicide nets, then they give it to the so-called upper class. 0.93

00:05:56.000 And Google believes that the first artificial intelligence will be a supercomputer based on the neuron activities of the hive mind of humanity.

00:06:06.000 And so then it's the end of consciousness and free will for individuals as we know.

00:06:11.000 and a true 2.0 in a very bad way, hive mind consciousness with an AI jacked into everyone

00:06:17.000 knowing our hopes and dreams because we were already wired in and absorbed before we knew

00:06:21.000 it by giving over our consciousness to this system by our daily decisions that it was

00:06:25.000 able to manipulate and control into a larger system.

00:06:28.000 The ultimate racism, the ultimate anti-human, globalist eugenics movement that says humanity 0.79

00:06:33.000 has failed and over and that machines are going to override us and the elite are going

00:06:38.000 to merge with silicon and that to do that they must first shed themselves of us, the

00:06:44.000 The priest at Google.

00:06:46.000 The priest at Apple.

00:06:47.000 The priest at IBM.

00:06:49.000 The priest at Microsoft.

00:06:50.000 That is their religion.

00:06:53.000 I declare This July 4th, 2022, there'll be a Declaration of Independence against the alien force on this planet today, waging war against humans and our biology and our very future that is attempting to exterminate the majority of us and force the minority that's left to merge with AI computers and become cyborg slaves of Satan.

00:07:19.000 Okay, we're going to have the great Alex Jones on here momentarily, but we want to take a little different cut on this.

00:07:27.000 There's a huge film coming out.

00:07:28.000 It's going to premiere tonight in Austin, Texas.

00:07:31.000 We actually have part of the team down there to be at the premiere.

00:07:35.000 And then this film's going to be, I think, available on the 29th to watch.

00:07:40.000 It's called Alex's War.

00:07:43.000 But there's also, as importantly, I actually think I think for many reasons, maybe even more importantly, there's a major new book coming out by the guys over at Skyhorse, Tony Lyons and team, by Alex Jones called The Great Reset and the War for the World, which is a incredible document.

00:08:03.000 The reason I want to start, I want to bring in Joe Allen.

00:08:05.000 We're doing a short tribute to Alex Jones because here's the thing.

00:08:10.000 People say Alex Jones is crazy.

00:08:11.000 He's a conspiracy theory guy. 1.00

00:08:12.000 He's a nutcase. 0.74

00:08:13.000 He's got these rants and all that. 0.76

00:08:16.000 What they miss Is that this guy's ahead of the curve on so many different topics of signal, not noise.

00:08:24.000 He's one of the leaders in describing what transhumanism is.

00:08:31.000 It's dangerous and what's happening on this.

00:08:34.000 And we just did a short mashup.

00:08:35.000 We could have done a whole hour of things.

00:08:37.000 Joe Allen, you're our editor in charge of this.

00:08:39.000 I know you're now working on a couple of projects for us.

00:08:41.000 That's why you're not on the show as frequently as you're not your daily hits anymore.

00:08:46.000 We're going to get you back more ingrained and we understand you've got a huge project you're working on for us.

00:08:50.000 Tell me about Alex Jones and transhumanism and how he was a prophet about this, sir.

00:08:58.000 Well, yes, Steve.

00:08:58.000 You know, as we've discussed before, Alex Jones was raising the alarm on transhumanism long before anybody was paying attention or would touch it.

00:09:06.000 I mean, yeah, he has a reputation for throwing wild haymakers, but when those haymakers connect, they definitely crack skulls.

00:09:14.000 And I think that people like him, whose antennas are out, who are very sensitive to danger, when he starts screaming about something, I think you should really stop and pay attention.

00:09:25.000 I mean, there really aren't many topics more terrifying than transhumanism. 0.65

00:09:31.000 Most people try to ignore it, mainly because of its utter horror.

00:09:35.000 You're talking about merging human beings with machines.

00:09:39.000 You're talking about genetic engineering and human-monkey chimeras. 0.98

00:09:43.000 Brain enhancement chemicals and robots and brain implants and superhuman artificial intelligence.

00:09:49.000 And I would say that Alex Jones, especially in regard to Ray Kurzweil, has been pointing out all of those things as they develop.

00:09:57.000 So we may differ on the theory of the case, but he has presented tons of valid evidence and facts that I think have been really, really important to raising consciousness to what the sort of technocratic global elite Really want to do again if you go back doesn't matter if you go back if you go back if you go back and look at the signal commercial show and not the know if you look at the signal and you compare that to PBS and NPR and BBC let's go to the super high elite

00:10:29.000 of reporting and you compare what they've put out over the last decade or so about this topic,

00:10:35.000 which I keep saying and the reason we got Joe Allen on here full time is probably at the end

00:10:39.000 of the day the most important part and this is what the brilliance of his new book, The Great

00:10:44.000 Reset, Alex Jones cuts to the heart of the matter. If you compare the finest and I'll tell you,

00:10:52.000 you take MIT technology review, you take science, take all these magazines and journals,

00:10:57.000 add the electronic part of it and you know NPR, PBS, all of it.

00:11:02.000 I'll take, I'll match up and we'll go through and we'll do what Alex Jones put out there versus what your collective body has put out there.

00:11:10.000 And if you're a sentient human being and just watching it, you say, well, God, Alex Jones was ahead of this.

00:11:14.000 Not only that, he kind of explained it.

00:11:16.000 Maybe all the pieces didn't fit together.

00:11:18.000 The other stuff is just standard stock and leaves you with nothing.

00:11:22.000 This is the importance.

00:11:23.000 This is true signal, not noise.

00:11:27.000 Last year we called NPR the whores of the techno-apocalypse, and I think that still stands, and it definitely stands for the Guardian, who are basically promoting it and kind of soft-peddling the implications of it.

00:11:39.000 CNN, anytime they touch anything like this, they just make it sound like cool new technology that you should look forward to.

00:11:45.000 Yeah, Alex Jones is saying, pay attention and be afraid, and I think that he's done a tremendous service in that regard.

00:11:53.000 I want you to hang on.

00:11:53.000 Let me play the cold open now.

00:11:55.000 I want to play the trailer for this film.

00:11:57.000 It's insane.

00:11:59.000 Insanely good.

00:12:00.000 Let's play the cold and then we'll bring in Alex.

00:12:03.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:12:04.000 The story you're about to see is truth.

00:12:06.000 This is reality.

00:12:07.000 Truth is stranger than fiction.

00:12:11.000 I'm the most fan, most demonized media person in the world. 0.95

00:12:14.000 Alex Jones is a fake. 0.84

00:12:16.000 He's a performance artist. 1.00

00:12:17.000 I'm perceived as a clown, a nut, a maniac. 0.99

00:12:21.000 On his website, InfoWars, he touts paranoia porn, the sickest, most offensive theory. 0.98

00:12:29.000 Alex Jones claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs.

00:12:34.000 Don't you stand for America, sir?

00:12:36.000 He said me and Hillary are demons.

00:12:40.000 Ain't that something? 1.00

00:12:41.000 You'll burn in hell! 0.99

00:12:43.000 I met him back in 1990s. 0.99

00:12:44.000 I knew right away he was going to be a star.

00:12:48.000 I saw all these conspiracy theorists that were talking about the New World Order.

00:12:48.000 How's my hair look?

00:12:51.000 And I thought, that's what I'll do.

00:12:53.000 Get it, Alex.

00:12:55.000 Death to the New World Order! 0.71

00:12:56.000 It was that attack on humanity that I saw early on that I really wanted to wage war on.

00:13:00.000 You're lying to the public. 0.99

00:13:01.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

00:13:02.000 Once you taste that, there's no going back.

00:13:07.000 Everything's a war.

00:13:08.000 That's the way the universe works.

00:13:09.000 And everything is propaganda.

00:13:11.000 I don't trust Donald Trump, but I agree with probably 95% of what Donald Trump says.

00:13:16.000 Your reputation's amazing.

00:13:18.000 I will not let you down.

00:13:21.000 That's what the media loves off.

00:13:23.000 Alex Jones said the Sandy Hook shooting, which claimed the lives of 20 children, was fake.

00:13:28.000 I try to tell the truth and sometimes I'm wrong.

00:13:30.000 Did the New York Times get in trouble for consciously lying about WMDs that then led to a war that killed tens of thousands in conflict?

00:13:37.000 No.

00:13:38.000 The attempts to de-platform us have failed.

00:13:41.000 They've had the CIA, the FBI following me around.

00:13:43.000 Now we've got to destroy Alex Jones.

00:13:45.000 We're not playing games here.

00:13:46.000 This is such a historic moment together.

00:13:50.000 USA!

00:13:51.000 USA!

00:13:52.000 It's all just insane.

00:13:54.000 Okay, let's put me in prison for questioning, okay?

00:13:56.000 Even though that's my right. 0.89

00:13:57.000 In fact, let's execute Alex Jones. 0.99

00:13:59.000 Let's put him in front of a firing squad, pull the trigger. 1.00

00:14:03.000 I have a sick feeling, actually. 1.00

00:14:05.000 Because I know what comes next.

00:14:06.000 Alright, folks.

00:14:15.000 So, we're going to go to break, and then we're going to come back with the rest of this great interview with Steve Bannon.

00:14:22.000 I really appreciate him having me on.

00:14:24.000 He says he's going to come on my show soon.

00:14:25.000 He was, of course, just recently falsely convicted of not testifying to Congress because he had the presidential discretion not to do that.

00:14:35.000 It was a separation of powers.

00:14:37.000 So, that is all coming up.

00:14:39.000 Ladies and gentlemen, on the other side, stay with us.

00:15:05.000 Tell us about this movie.

00:15:08.000 A great filmmaker made this.

00:15:09.000 You're interviewed for it, but other than that, it's their film, correct?

00:15:14.000 It is.

00:15:15.000 I mean, I've turned down a lot of...

00:15:17.000 Other documentary offers because it's the establishment they always lie, but I've seen some of her films and knew that it was independent and it shows me in a bad light and a good light because I mean I'm a real person just like you, but it's hard to come on here Steve because I've admired you and you were the brain behind a lot of what Trump was able to do and you've had the most courage of anybody out there standing up to the January 6th fraud and really Bringing America back.

00:15:42.000 So it's hard to come on your show and then talk about myself here.

00:15:46.000 It's surreal with what you did not backing down of the committee and their kangaroo court and how they wouldn't let you cross-examine people.

00:15:57.000 I'm facing three rigged lawsuits run by Democrats.

00:16:00.000 Same ones in Travis County that indicted Rick Perry and Tom DeLay.

00:16:04.000 I'm not allowed to say I'm innocent at my trial next week that starts.

00:16:08.000 They put an order out.

00:16:09.000 You cannot say you're innocent.

00:16:10.000 You cannot say it's rigged.

00:16:12.000 And you can... I mean, it's insane.

00:16:14.000 If I'm supposed to sit there and not talk and not say I'm innocent, this is the end of America.

00:16:18.000 So if they can destroy Steve Bannon and Alex Jones, they can destroy you.

00:16:22.000 So I'm just honored.

00:16:23.000 And I'm not gushing here just to gush.

00:16:25.000 I mean, I don't gush.

00:16:26.000 I'm gushing because, literally, we are in the arena.

00:16:30.000 And you and I, and you at a greater level, I got to say, they are so scared of you.

00:16:35.000 And so I admire your work.

00:16:37.000 And I have, you know, really, really pushed people that have, you know, attacked you and stuff to not, because they're wrong.

00:16:43.000 And when they do, they're buying into the globalist propaganda.

00:16:45.000 So I am really, this is a big bucket list being on your show.

00:16:48.000 And I'm, I'm so proud of the fact that it's exploded.

00:16:52.000 Everybody talks about I'm at the grocery store, I'm at church.

00:16:55.000 Everywhere.

00:16:56.000 Almost every day, people go, man, I really love your show and I love Steve Bannon.

00:16:59.000 Did you see this?

00:17:00.000 Did you see that?

00:17:00.000 And I don't get, like, envious.

00:17:02.000 I feel good when I go to sleep at night.

00:17:04.000 Like, if they put me in prison or kill me next week, at least Steve Bannon's out there.

00:17:08.000 And this team you've put together.

00:17:11.000 But here, the reason I want to have you on is the film.

00:17:13.000 Look, the film's a powerhouse film.

00:17:15.000 And I don't think, you're a unique combination.

00:17:18.000 But let's talk about Steve Bannon.

00:17:19.000 Okay, okay, we'll talk about him.

00:17:20.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:17:21.000 I've never gotten to talk to you.

00:17:23.000 Yeah, but listen, here's why I think it's so important, because your trial's coming up, and look, you're a fighter and they're obviously trying to take you down.

00:17:31.000 The point I don't think people get about you, we do at The War Room, and I personally do because I followed you for years, is that you're not just a man of action.

00:17:40.000 The guy that they see on that show every night, the guy they see out at the Bullhorn, the guy that's taking leadership and saying, hey, I'm in the first tank and we'll drive this.

00:17:49.000 As much and as important as that leadership is, The true thing that you've done, which is stunning, if you look at the evidence of that and the facts, you are one of the great thinkers of this.

00:18:02.000 That is very rare.

00:18:03.000 You've got to go back almost to the revolutionary generation and see that.

00:18:08.000 In this new book, I've got to tell you, when Tony Lyons first approached me, I read this thing, I go, this is it.

00:18:13.000 This guy has summarized, he's pulled together.

00:18:15.000 The film is powerful.

00:18:17.000 But the film is going to show Alex Jones in all his glory, the good and the bad, and you make your decision.

00:18:23.000 But you see Alex Jones, the brawler.

00:18:26.000 Alex Jones, the intellectual brawler.

00:18:28.000 But this book, The Great Reset and The War for the World, I'm telling you, everybody in America, the people that hate Alex Jones the most have to read this book.

00:18:35.000 This is no beach read.

00:18:37.000 You're not going to be flipping pages here.

00:18:38.000 You're going to be having a pen out and you're going to be underlying stuff.

00:18:41.000 It's amazing.

00:18:41.000 So look, I appreciate the kind words.

00:18:43.000 And look, you know, we're both in this and there's no back down.

00:18:46.000 You know, Tucker, I was on Tucker last night.

00:18:49.000 Trump, you, me, others.

00:18:51.000 We're not going to back down an inch.

00:18:52.000 We can't.

00:18:53.000 The Republic, this is a fourth turning.

00:18:55.000 The Republic is in play right now.

00:18:57.000 We're either going to win or we're going to lose.

00:18:58.000 It's very simple.

00:18:59.000 Right?

00:19:00.000 Because Steve, let's explain this to viewers.

00:19:01.000 If we back down, it's like dying.

00:19:04.000 It's like committing suicide to back down.

00:19:05.000 We're not looking for trouble, but we just can't back down.

00:19:08.000 We need America to understand that you'll be with us together exactly.

00:19:12.000 We're not backing down.

00:19:13.000 We can't do it.

00:19:15.000 No, absolutely.

00:19:16.000 I'll tell you what, I'm going to take a short break here.

00:19:18.000 I'm going to get Alex, I want to talk about this book, if we can get it up.

00:19:22.000 Alex, what is the, can we get the cover of the book up?

00:19:24.000 Real quickly, when is this book, I know people can order it now, when does the book actually come out?

00:19:28.000 Because this is something that people need to read immediately and we need to break it down, etc.

00:19:35.000 So when can people get this book, The Great Reset in the War for the World?

00:19:39.000 I was making changes to it up to a month ago.

00:19:41.000 The book is done.

00:19:42.000 Today I am writing, because I'm two weeks behind, they're going to print it next week, the acknowledgment.

00:19:48.000 It's kind of hard to write acknowledgments.

00:19:49.000 I want to thank so many people.

00:19:50.000 So after this show, I'm going to write the acknowledgment.

00:19:52.000 It's going to go to print Monday.

00:19:54.000 And it's going to be out in the middle of August.

00:19:58.000 So it's going to print next week.

00:20:04.000 Let's take a short commercial break.

00:20:05.000 We're going to get the way everybody orders it.

00:20:07.000 Alex Jones, there's a massive film premiering tonight in Austin, Texas.

00:20:11.000 Alex's War.

00:20:12.000 You're not going to want to miss that.

00:20:14.000 Then he's got a major new book coming out in mid-August.

00:20:16.000 You can start to pre-order.

00:20:18.000 The Great Reset in the War for the World.

00:20:22.000 And this is as heavy as it gets.

00:20:24.000 Alex Jones is our guest.

00:20:25.000 You're in the War Room.

00:20:26.000 Take a short commercial break.

00:20:27.000 break we'll be back in a moment.

00:20:44.000 Pandemic.

00:20:45.000 With Stephen K. Bannon. 0.81

00:20:46.000 The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.

00:20:50.000 War Room.

00:20:51.000 Pandemic.

00:20:52.000 Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.

00:20:57.000 You know, people that have watched this show know me over the years.

00:20:59.000 You know, the Financial Times, The Economist, we go through, that's what we play every day.

00:21:03.000 We start with MSNBC and CNN clips.

00:21:05.000 We're not playing conservative right-wing news.

00:21:07.000 So I'm a huge believer in information and in collecting information.

00:21:12.000 And I go to, I watch the Infowars every day and follow Alex Jones closely.

00:21:17.000 You know why?

00:21:18.000 He can put you ahead of the curve.

00:21:20.000 And he's been demonized as a conspiracy theorist, right?

00:21:26.000 I gotta tell you.

00:21:28.000 This book, The Great Reset and The War for the World, is the left and the mainstream media are going to have to sit there and we've got to force them to respond to this book.

00:21:39.000 This book is that important.

00:21:41.000 And Alex, I appreciate it.

00:21:43.000 I don't understand.

00:21:44.000 As busy as you are doing as many hours a day and all the other things you do are getting out there and leading from the front tank and going to rallies and doing all that.

00:21:51.000 I don't honestly understand humanly how you pulled this together.

00:21:55.000 I want you to make the case that you make in this book, The Great Reset, 'cause you take three authors,

00:22:02.000 essentially, and you tie together these three books to make the case of showing data and evidence

00:22:08.000 through their words.

00:22:09.000 You take Klaus Schwab in the fourth industrial revolution, you take the CEO of Nadella, the CEO that followed Gates

00:22:17.000 and those guys at, and Gates is a guy who has CEO in Microsoft, the hit reset,

00:22:22.000 and then you take Yuval Noah Harara, Homo Deus and his other books,

00:22:27.000 and you make the case of what the, not just the New World Order is,

00:22:31.000 but using this great reset to really take up their whole idea of control and authoritarianism.

00:22:38.000 And combine it really with state capitalism.

00:22:40.000 So I want you to make the case here in the Great Reset.

00:22:43.000 What is this Great Reset and why are we at a war for the world right now, sir?

00:22:49.000 The establishment is a lot of different power groups, as you know, but science is always the cutting edge.

00:22:56.000 And they know there's a revolution of science.

00:22:59.000 And so they want to control that science and want to be the people that direct that science.

00:23:03.000 And if they don't bring in a worldwide authoritarian system, They know there'll be competition to them, and they're basically afraid.

00:23:10.000 All right, folks, this is a good part of the interview right now.

00:23:13.000 Amazing to be on the Steve Bannon.

00:23:14.000 He has a giant show and a lot of courage, and is now about to be a political prisoner, like so many of us as we go into this dark night of tyranny.

00:23:21.000 But the enemy is flashing out because they know humanity is waking up.

00:23:26.000 It's the Great Awakening versus the Great Reset.

00:23:28.000 Stay with us.

00:23:29.000 Greenwald coming up as well.

00:23:57.000 Welcome back to this live Sunday, July 24th, worldwide broadcast.

00:24:02.000 I'm your host Alex Jones.

00:24:03.000 A special four-hour live transmission tonight.

00:24:07.000 Glenn Greenwald interviewed me at length.

00:24:10.000 Yesterday at the film premiere for the documentary Alex's War.

00:24:14.000 It's a very fair film.

00:24:16.000 It's a critical film.

00:24:17.000 It's, I would say, a very accurate snapshot representation of what we do, what we stand for.

00:24:22.000 I'm going to be proud of my work in many areas and not so proud in other areas.

00:24:25.000 And I, you know, talked about that because life is a work in progress with Glenn.

00:24:30.000 And so we're going to be airing large excerpts of that interview in the second hour.

00:24:34.000 Then Eddie Bravo taped with us yesterday.

00:24:39.000 In studio, before the premiere, we're going to be airing that coming up, and also Harrison Smith and so much more.

00:24:47.000 The full Steve Bannon interview that we won't have time to air all of, we'll air about 60% of it, is obviously on his site on Rumble, and we posted it to InfoWars.com if you'd like to go watch it without the interruptions and things.

00:24:59.000 But let me just throw this out there real quick.

00:25:02.000 Because, you know, Steve's better than I am at plugging books, because he's written a lot more books than I have.

00:25:08.000 This really is an important book, and if you think the video clips on the show and the documents are powerful, this is a thick book, but a fast read, but also a deep read, because it's got all the proof of the nightmare world government, dehumanization, transhumanist plan, depopulation plan, and it's all in one book.

00:25:29.000 There's a lot of great reset books out there that are excellent, including those written by the globalists themselves.

00:25:34.000 They're evil, but they're excellent at telling you what they're going to do to you.

00:25:38.000 This book, now available on Amazon.com, is the best overall work out there today.

00:25:45.000 I'm sure stuff will come out that's even more important in the future because people will have more information, but this is really a total conviction of these criminals.

00:25:52.000 It's not for sale yet on InfoWareStore.com because We were greenlit to sell it last week, and we just never put it up for sale.

00:26:00.000 That's how we roll.

00:26:01.000 Not mad at anybody.

00:26:02.000 It's just how ragtag we are and, you know, what's going on around here.

00:26:05.000 But by tomorrow it will be up for pre-sale and it starts shipping on August 15th at InfowarsStore.com or 888-253-3139.

00:26:18.000 But right now it is available at Barnes & Noble and Amazon and places like that.

00:26:22.000 And it's important to get it from Amazon, because if it pushes up to the number one political book or even number one book period, that makes everybody else start buying it, causes a big political firestorm, and then the message really gets out there.

00:26:33.000 So I don't normally say, go to Amazon to get stuff, but in the case of The Great Reset, you get a really good deal on it, and we want to send it to number one.

00:26:40.000 So go to Amazon.com, get The Great Reset.

00:26:45.000 And the War for the World by yours truly, Alex Jones, there.

00:26:48.000 And if you want to support us, you can start buying some copies on Monday.

00:26:51.000 Hopefully it'll be up at infowarestore.com.

00:26:54.000 And you can also get signed copies there as well.

00:26:58.000 So again, the Great Reset and the War for the World.

00:27:00.000 We're going to...

00:27:02.000 Go out to break in seven minutes with more of the Bannon clip, and then we're going to come back without my introduction in the last segment of this hour as well.

00:27:10.000 And then the Glenn Greenwald onstage interview last night that was really powerful.

00:27:14.000 Folks are saying that they thought it was very informative.

00:27:17.000 That is coming up in the second hour tonight.

00:27:19.000 So here is more of the Steve Bannon War Room, Alex Jones interview.

00:27:25.000 The establishment is a lot of different power groups, as you know, but Science is always the cutting edge, and they know there's a revolution of science, and so they want to control that science and want to be the people that direct that science.

00:27:39.000 And if they don't bring in a worldwide authoritarian system, they know there'll be competition to them, and they're basically afraid of these massive technological developments that are about to happen.

00:27:49.000 Contrary to limits to growth and things that MIT put out in the 60s claiming society would collapse, We'll actually expand infinitely with our technology if we have a culture, if we're moral and we don't destroy each other.

00:28:05.000 And so they have decided to trigger a controlled collapse and then bring in a new dark age to control the general public where they will be in their Elysium fields You know, to use the Greek analogy, where they're these demigods, and then if they even keep us around, it's like you let some ants live in your backyard, you have a potted plant, as Ray Kurzweil has said.

00:28:29.000 And so really, it was easy to write this book.

00:28:33.000 The problem was condensing it down, because they tell us what they're doing.

00:28:37.000 We're going to be gods.

00:28:38.000 Ray Kurzweil says, I don't believe in God yet.

00:28:40.000 I'm going to become a god.

00:28:42.000 He's going to resurrect his father.

00:28:44.000 But he needs all of us to get in line behind his AI so he can be God over us.

00:28:49.000 And so it's basically a destruction of free will.

00:28:51.000 And so you look at Harari and you look at all these people that are in the book.

00:28:55.000 They say, we're going to be gods.

00:28:57.000 We're about to be gods.

00:28:58.000 But we've got to get everybody in line to do what we say before we can become those gods.

00:29:04.000 And it's just quote after quote after quote of just the most insane stuff.

00:29:08.000 And if your neighbor said it, you know, you'd lock your door and be scared of them.

00:29:12.000 But they're up there at the Davos Group and they're writing books and they're making these statements saying, resistance is futile.

00:29:18.000 We're going to take your body over. 1.00

00:29:20.000 The future is not human.

00:29:22.000 Looking forward to the end of humanity.

00:29:24.000 These are Wall Street Journal headlines.

00:29:25.000 These are New York Times headlines.

00:29:27.000 And it's these people, these self-appointed high priests, that are just saying, we are in control of your destiny.

00:29:34.000 Oh, but it's going to be wonderful and you're going to be empowered, but we're going to control everything you do.

00:29:38.000 So it's an authoritarian delusion of grandeur.

00:29:44.000 But because humans are so amazing and we are made by God, we've created such great technology, they're just declaring themselves the aficionados of humans and that they're in charge of our development and where we're going.

00:29:57.000 And so it's literally a hijacking.

00:30:01.000 The old global elites couldn't beat the Renaissance innovation 550 years ago, the Gutenberg press.

00:30:06.000 And so it's been them trying to maintain and control technology because it threatens them.

00:30:12.000 And so now they're going to try to use technology to superimpose their will over us.

00:30:16.000 But just like the Internet backfired on them, it's going to backfire on them again. 0.83

00:30:19.000 So again, it's a bunch of mad scientists, self-appointed control freaks.

00:30:24.000 Who have set themselves up as the new priest class, who are self-anointed, and are telling us that we have to get in line with the utopia they're building, but when we see the Great Reset, the cutting off of energy, and the so-called Great Transition we're in, there is no new technology coming in.

00:30:40.000 They're blocking that, and so really they're just imploding things under the cloud and pivot model, so that they can get that control over us.

00:30:49.000 Walk me through Klaus Schwab.

00:30:51.000 You've been at this now for 20 or 30 years.

00:30:53.000 You've been focused on what you call the New World Order.

00:30:56.000 Tell us about how does a guy like Klaus Schwab come up and take this conference started in Davos and let this be kind of the governor mechanism of all this?

00:31:07.000 How did he pull this off?

00:31:08.000 Because you start off by his Fourth Industrial Revolution.

00:31:11.000 Tell us about Schwab.

00:31:12.000 How did he pull it off in Davos?

00:31:13.000 And what's important about his book, The Fourth Industrial Revolution?

00:31:18.000 Wow, that's huge.

00:31:20.000 Klaus Schwab and his family go back, being technocrats, going back into World War II on the bad guy side.

00:31:28.000 And he was a protege of Henry Kissinger and that whole OSS-CIA Atlantic Alliance.

00:31:39.000 And so the Bilderberg Group set up in Oosterbeek, Holland in 1954.

00:31:43.000 ...was an alliance of the old European elite and the Anglo-American establishment, the British Empire and the US, and was a consortium meeting on time to create consensus within the elites.

00:31:54.000 And then once they had that by the 70s, and the Trilateral Commission was set up by David Rockefeller and Jimmy Carter, once they kind of had that order set up, then they said, okay, we've got to take this royal roundtable international organization, Royal Institute of International Affairs is the British model of it, CFR is the US model.

00:32:13.000 We've got to now take that to the state, and to the county, and to the city, and to the ecumenical, and the educational systems, and really put that program in.

00:32:26.000 And as Klaus Schwab says, we penetrate the cabinets, we control half the governments, he will eat the bugs.

00:32:32.000 And so he is really the press secretary of this.

00:32:36.000 And they then used the, quote, World Economic Forum with massive money and private jets and all the things that come with that, the big dinners and the other things that you get when you go, the sex operatives, all of it.

00:32:50.000 And they just roped in all the best talent and all the best people from every level, media, academia, business, government.

00:32:58.000 and just brought them all in since the 80s really at a fast pace until they have their mafia

00:33:06.000 or their cult of corporate power really fascism the merger of government and corporations over

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00:33:33.000 Tomorrow's News Today.

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00:33:48.000 ...Is the operating system for the general masses, just like China is communist, but it's really rich oligarchs.

00:33:56.000 And, you know, Obama, before he left office, gave speeches in South America, saying, listen, we need to mix the communism and capitalism.

00:34:02.000 Like, one country is communist, the other is capitalist, but those are the feudal slaves under communism.

00:34:08.000 And then you have the, quote, capitalist system extracting it, but it's not really capitalist.

00:34:12.000 It's a fascist, crony, capitalist, authoritarian system over it.

00:34:17.000 And so Klaus Schwab is the mouthpiece Of these organizations and groups, and they create the press releases, the operational memorandums, that then get sent out to Australia and New Zealand and Germany and France and the US and Canada and, you know, over a hundred countries who all now, the politicians speak in one unified voice.

00:34:36.000 When we've seen those composite videos where one person says, build back better, great reset, transition, and then it's another one, another one, and all of a sudden there's a hundred screens and a hundred languages all saying, We're doing this, and then when we go, hey, we don't want our energy cut off, you don't even have a replacement, they go, oh no!

00:34:56.000 That's a conspiracy theory.

00:34:58.000 Or, or, oh, Putin did that.

00:35:00.000 That's why your gas prices are up for the local gas station.

00:35:02.000 But then on the other side of their mouth, they say, no, no, this is good.

00:35:05.000 You need pain, Buttigieg has said, and, and, and Granholm and all of them.

00:35:10.000 We're doing this in a transition.

00:35:12.000 But it's not a transition into a better Star Trek civilization.

00:35:16.000 It's a transition into a new feudalist state, literally cutting off the energy to make everybody poor and dumbed down.

00:35:23.000 Feudalism 2.0.

00:35:25.000 And so that's what the Great Reset is, that's what Klaus Schwab is, that's what this professor

00:35:31.000 of medieval studies, Harari, none of those are his ideas.

00:35:36.000 That's all been said by the Club of Rome, it's all been said by the Bilderberg Group,

00:35:39.000 it's all been said by Limits to Growth, it's all been said by the Population Bomb, it's

00:35:43.000 all been said in eco-science, written in the 70s by the man that later became Obama's science

00:35:53.000 And when you read this stuff, if you just sit back and look at it, you know, this is the closest thing to Hitler I've ever seen.

00:36:00.000 This is like Hitler 5.0. 0.92

00:36:03.000 This is like Hitler, Buck Rogers level with what they're saying.

00:36:07.000 And they're just in this huge revolution Against choice and free will and normal technological development and adoption of technology that empowers humanity.

00:36:18.000 Instead, they want adoption of technology, forced adoption, world IDs, global social credit scores, carbon taxes that dominate and monitor every facet of our lives.

00:36:31.000 I tell you what, can you hang on?

00:36:32.000 We'd love to keep you for one more segment.

00:36:34.000 As long as you want, Steve.

00:36:35.000 This is awesome.

00:36:37.000 We've got Alex Jones, the book is The Great Reset and The War for the World.

00:36:41.000 This is a seminal work.

00:36:43.000 Yes, I know Madeline Peltz, our marketing director over at Media Matters, is going to melt down. 1.00

00:36:49.000 I dare anybody to go through this book and read it and see the references that are cited and the deconstruction he does of some of these major works by major... This is not intellectual slumming.

00:37:02.000 This is a heavy book and he takes apart and repurposes in there works of some of the top thinkers in the world today.

00:37:11.000 Alex Jones is our guest here in the War Room.

00:37:13.000 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:37:15.000 We'll be back.

00:37:16.000 Austin, Texas.

00:37:17.000 A huge premiere tonight.

00:37:18.000 Part of our team's down there.

00:37:20.000 Alex's War premieres tonight.

00:37:22.000 This major documentary.

00:37:23.000 First one I think Alex has ever participated in as an interview.

00:37:25.000 It's made by an independent filmmaker.

00:37:27.000 Quite frankly, a stunning filmmaker.

00:37:29.000 It's out on the 29th of July.

00:37:31.000 Alex is finishing up this book, but you can pre-order it.

00:37:34.000 It's one of the Tony lines of the Sky Horse Press.

00:37:36.000 Guy's done another amazing job.

00:37:37.000 Short commercial break.

00:37:38.000 We'll be back with Alex Jones.

00:37:40.000 Just a moment.

00:37:41.000 We will fight till they're all gone.

00:37:43.000 We rejoice when there's no more. 0.95

00:37:45.000 Let's take down the CCP.

00:37:48.000 The story you're about to see is truth.

00:37:51.000 This is reality.

00:37:52.000 Truth is stranger than fiction.

00:37:56.000 I'm the most banned, most demonized media person in the world. 0.94

00:37:59.000 Alex Jones is a fake. 0.92

00:38:01.000 He's a performance artist. 1.00

00:38:02.000 I'm perceived as a clown, a nut, a maniac. 0.99

00:38:06.000 On his website, InfoWars, he touts paranoia porn. 1.00

00:38:11.000 The sickest, most offensive theories.

00:38:14.000 Alex Jones claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs.

00:38:19.000 Don't you stand for America, sir?

00:38:21.000 He said me and Hillary are demons.

00:38:25.000 Ain't that something? 1.00

00:38:26.000 You'll burn in hell! 0.99

00:38:28.000 I met him back in 1990. 0.99

00:38:29.000 I knew right away he was going to be a star.

00:38:33.000 How's my hair look?

00:38:33.000 I saw all these conspiracy theorists that were talking about the New World Order.

00:38:36.000 And I thought, that's what I'll do.

00:38:38.000 Get it, Alex.

00:38:40.000 Death to the New World Order! 0.71

00:38:41.000 It was that attack on humanity that I saw early on that I really wanted to wage war on.

00:38:45.000 You're lying to the public. 0.99

00:38:46.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

00:38:47.000 Once you taste that, there's no going back.

00:38:52.000 Everything's a war.

00:38:53.000 That's the way the universe works.

00:38:54.000 And everything is propaganda.

00:38:56.000 I don't trust Donald Trump.

00:38:57.000 But I agree with probably 95% of what Donald Trump says.

00:39:01.000 Your reputation's amazing.

00:39:03.000 I will not let you down.

00:39:06.000 That's what the media loves on.

00:39:08.000 Alex Jones said the Sandy Hook shooting, which claimed the lives of 20 children, was fake.

00:39:13.000 I try to tell the truth and sometimes I'm wrong.

00:39:15.000 Did the New York Times get in trouble for consciously lying about WMDs that then led to a war that killed tens of thousands in conflict?

00:39:22.000 No.

00:39:23.000 The attempts to de-platform us have failed.

00:39:26.000 They have the CIA, the FBI following me around.

00:39:28.000 Now we've got to destroy Alex Jones.

00:39:30.000 We're not playing games here.

00:39:31.000 This is such a historic moment.

00:39:37.000 It's all just insane.

00:39:39.000 Okay, let's put me in prison for questioning, okay?

00:39:41.000 Even though that's my right. 0.89

00:39:42.000 In fact, let's execute Alex Jones. 0.99

00:39:43.000 Let's put him in front of a firing squad, pull the trigger. 1.00

00:39:48.000 I have a sick feeling, actually. 1.00

00:39:50.000 Because I know what comes next.

00:39:56.000 Okay, a blockbuster film premieres tonight in Austin, Texas, Alex's War.

00:40:00.000 Alex Jones is interviewed by it, but it's not by him, it's by a fantastic filmmaker.

00:40:05.000 And it's not a, you know, it's not a hierography.

00:40:09.000 It's a tough film, but I gotta tell you, I think You watch it, you come away with an appreciation that is, uh, I think a lot of people are going to be blown away by this.

00:40:18.000 Also, a major new book comes out basically in mid-August, being finished up by now, now by Alex, The Great Reset and The War for the World.

00:40:25.000 It's incredible.

00:40:26.000 It's one of the things we're breaking down with Alex.

00:40:28.000 Alex!

00:40:29.000 One of the things I loved about the book is that, because I said, I said, I think he's the first guy besides me that thinks, hey, you've had Kissinger, but then he got Mika Brzezinski's dad, Dr. Brzezinski, who was National Security Advisor, after Kissinger, when the Ford administration was defeated by Carter, he came in.

00:40:48.000 But I've said for years, he's actually 10x the intellectual thinker geopolitically and what, and if he had this book, which you cite, That if you read it, it really was the railhead of everything that's kind of happened.

00:41:01.000 Tell us about Dr. Brzezinski versus Dr. Henry Kissinger, sir.

00:41:06.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

00:41:08.000 I mentioned Kissinger because Paul Schwab directly worked under him, but the real intellectual that got his ideas adopted was Zbigniew Brzezinski, who of course helped start the Afghan War and lured the Soviets in.

00:41:24.000 He was quite the mastermind.

00:41:26.000 He wrote the Grand Chess Board, you know, a decade or so ago, admitting his world government plans.

00:41:30.000 But I read, when I was a teenager, because my dad was really into it, when I was a little kid, he said, you ought to read these books when you get old enough.

00:41:37.000 So I read the Technotronic Era and several others.

00:41:39.000 And he was talking about microchips to buy and sell into your skin.

00:41:43.000 He was talking about a technocracy with computers controlling everything you did.

00:41:46.000 He was explaining how governments actually control organized crime.

00:41:50.000 But Alex, Alex, I just want to make sure people understand.

00:41:52.000 That book came out basically in the 70s, correct?

00:41:56.000 Yes, sir.

00:41:57.000 And so you read this... He was laying out exactly where this was headed, correct?

00:42:03.000 Absolutely, and he is the main thinker.

00:42:06.000 He gave a speech at the Canadian CFR, again about a decade ago, where he said that people can pull the quote up, he said, "Before we

00:42:14.000 could use propaganda to control people, it was infinitely easier to control a million people with

00:42:18.000 propaganda. Now it's infinitely easier to kill them, and we may just have to get rid of everybody." 0.99

00:42:23.000 So Brzezinski, in some of his books, bragged, "Well, I didn't kill the Cambodians, but I put Pol 0.99

00:42:30.000 Pot in to do it." So it's just, when you're reading what a real psychopath is saying here.

00:42:37.000 So I guess that's why Mika is so attracted to Scarborough. 0.93

00:42:41.000 You know, psycho, psycho jokes.

00:42:42.000 I guess he's like daddy, uh, but she's looking for daddy again there.

00:42:49.000 Leave that all over.

00:42:50.000 I want to pivot.

00:42:50.000 Okay.

00:42:50.000 I want to get into more.

00:42:51.000 We're going to have Alex back to go through this because the book is the great reason.

00:42:55.000 Here's the thing.

00:42:56.000 This is not a beach book.

00:42:58.000 I want you to take it to the beach, but this is not like some spy novel you buy in the airport.

00:43:04.000 This is a serious book, and it's got to be treated seriously.

00:43:07.000 I think actually Tony and the guys ought to put a study guide out with it because it's that important.

00:43:11.000 Alex, tell us about your upcoming travails.

00:43:15.000 It's beyond trying to shut you up.

00:43:16.000 They can't do that.

00:43:17.000 They've tried that every different way.

00:43:19.000 They're trying to expunge you in any way possible.

00:43:24.000 Walk us through what's happening.

00:43:27.000 Well, you've been.

00:43:28.000 All right, we're going to come back and start hour number two.

00:43:31.000 We'll finish up with the Steve Bannon interview, or at least part of it.

00:43:34.000 Full thing is on Infowars.com, and obviously on Steve Bannon's site.

00:43:38.000 And then we're going to get to the Glenn Greenwald interview he did with me last night.

00:43:42.000 This is not on the internet yet.

00:43:43.000 It's about to go out today, next hour.

00:43:47.000 And then we've got so much more Eddie Bravo and more in studio with Harrison Smith and myself in the third and fourth hour.

00:43:54.000 Hour number two straight ahead.

00:44:06.000 Walk us through what's happening.

00:44:09.000 Well, you've been through this, President Trump's been through this, and what they do is, they fear populists, they fear loyal Americans that believe in America and are promoting it, because they know that's going to be popular, so they have to shut that down.

00:44:22.000 If they can demonize Steve Bannon and destroy Steve Bannon, if they can demonize and destroy Alex Jones or Donald Trump, And I'm not trying to put myself in that league, but that's the league.

00:44:30.000 It's like, you know, Trump, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones are the main targets, kind of going down from there.

00:44:34.000 I think you're probably a bigger target than I am because you're respected and also you have your intelligence background and they know it was the brain trust to find a lot of Trump successes.

00:44:44.000 And so I'm not lavishing you, it's just true.

00:44:48.000 Here's where I disagree with this because I think, like Trump, you have a You know, as Bernard Shaw said, only connect.

00:44:58.000 You have a way of connecting with the working class in this country, in the middle class in this country that is very powerful.

00:45:04.000 I mean, one of my guilty pleasures is watching your rants and they're absolutely amazing.

00:45:09.000 I mean, they're incredible.

00:45:11.000 You have a way of connecting like Trump has a way of connecting.

00:45:14.000 That is their biggest fear.

00:45:16.000 Their biggest fear is the Education and enlightenment the awakening of that army of what I call the army of the awakened and they will take I think Tucker and I are far in back of that because you and Trump have a way of Connecting a hard connection with that.

00:45:32.000 That is you can't coach that right?

00:45:34.000 That's a god-given talent That's just creative charisma and you have it.

00:45:38.000 That's why they're called.

00:45:39.000 I don't want to say that I've got What what what what are they trying to do right now they've done everything possible and In the technocratic way to shut you down and eliminate your voice.

00:45:50.000 You've powered through that.

00:45:52.000 What is the latest they're trying to do to destroy you?

00:45:56.000 Well, if you try to describe what they've done to you, just what I know would take hours.

00:45:59.000 And if I tried to describe it, it would take hours.

00:46:01.000 But here's the bottom line.

00:46:02.000 I have the motions in limine at Infowars.com of the judge's order of the first of three rigged Sandy Hook trials where I've already been found guilty.

00:46:12.000 I've been defaulted.

00:46:14.000 When I gave them everything and more, which they used as a blueprint to further debank us and deplatform us.

00:46:21.000 And the judge put in the order for the trial, where I'm guilty, that I cannot say I'm innocent.

00:46:26.000 Says word for word.

00:46:27.000 May not say you're innocent in any way.

00:46:29.000 Well, if that was a murderer, you know, caught with dead bodies in my basement, I could get up and say I'm innocent to the jury.

00:46:35.000 I could say I'm not guilty.

00:46:36.000 No, I am guilty.

00:46:39.000 And I can't cross-examine anybody.

00:46:41.000 And I can't raise the First Amendment.

00:46:43.000 And I can't say the trial is rigged.

00:46:46.000 But then we're ordered to have this trial or I'll be held in contempt.

00:46:50.000 She did a million dollar fine a month ago. 1.00

00:46:53.000 Court of Appeals turned it around in one day and said, pay it.

00:46:56.000 I paid a million dollars, and I'm out of money.

00:46:59.000 They finally run me to ground.

00:47:01.000 I paid a million dollars on Monday that literally brought the company down to like $300,000 in the bank.

00:47:07.000 But that's okay.

00:47:07.000 Lizards are coming in and supporting us.

00:47:08.000 But this is a real war, because you nailed it.

00:47:11.000 You stole my thunder, because I understand why.

00:47:13.000 You want to show people this is veritas.

00:47:15.000 We're simpatico, because the truth is the truth.

00:47:17.000 They hate Steve Bannon.

00:47:18.000 They hate Tucker Carlson.

00:47:20.000 They hate Donald Trump.

00:47:21.000 They hate me because we are populist.

00:47:23.000 We love the people.

00:47:25.000 The people get that.

00:47:26.000 They can see it.

00:47:27.000 They can feel it.

00:47:28.000 And they've seen what we've gone through.

00:47:29.000 And they don't want them to have a spirit.

00:47:31.000 So they think they can break us and destroy us.

00:47:34.000 That's their symbol of the American people.

00:47:36.000 Trump always says, look, they got to get through me to get to you.

00:47:39.000 And it's totally true.

00:47:40.000 We have decided to stand up because we love America and we can't stand seeing this happen.

00:47:44.000 We're not heroes.

00:47:44.000 We just can't roll over.

00:47:46.000 It's like being raped.

00:47:48.000 And so they see us standing up. 0.99

00:47:50.000 I think if they can break us and smash us, they can do it.

00:47:52.000 And this is not my rights that are being robbed.

00:47:56.000 It's all of our rights.

00:47:57.000 I mean, when Steve Bannon cannot cross-examine people at his own trial, In a rigged DC situation, we are all having our rights stolen.

00:48:05.000 And when I can't say I'm innocent, and can't say I'm bankrupt, and can't say there's three trials coming up, literally, she says we can say almost nothing.

00:48:14.000 But we have to be there.

00:48:16.000 And so, that's where this is.

00:48:18.000 And I'm just blessed that it's not criminal, like it is for you or what Julian Assange.

00:48:22.000 So anytime I feel sorry for myself, I go, There's Julian Assange, and there's Roger Stone, and there's people like Steve Bannon that have been really persecuted.

00:48:31.000 But I understand that's their next phase, is they're also implying everything's criminal I'm doing.

00:48:36.000 And I know they've got grand juries open, and they've got grand jury subpoenas, and some of it I've not talked about on air, but it's just a nightmare.

00:48:44.000 And I'm not a victim.

00:48:45.000 I asked for this.

00:48:46.000 I got in the arena.

00:48:47.000 But I want America to know, we're fighting for you.

00:48:50.000 We're fighting for our own families.

00:48:51.000 We're in this.

00:48:53.000 [theme music]

00:48:56.000 [music playing]

00:48:59.000 Here we are.

00:49:06.000 Hour number two on this live Sunday, July 24th broadcast.

00:49:10.000 I'm your embattled host, Alex Jones.

00:49:12.000 Thanks for keeping us in the fight for myself, the crew, and the whole InfoWorks family.

00:49:16.000 We salute you all.

00:49:19.000 All right, for the balance of the hour, we're going to air large excerpts of the multi-hour event that happened Saturday evening last night in Austin at a great theater.

00:49:31.000 And Glenn Greenwald got really demonized for coming to interview me.

00:49:35.000 The left said, You can interview Charlie Manson, you can interview Saddam Hussein, but you can't interview Alex Jones because then they can't misrepresent what I've actually said and done.

00:49:44.000 We talk about free speech, the attack on liberty, the death of the corporate media, and so much more.

00:49:49.000 And then after that, Eddie Bravo in studio, Harrison Smith, and so much more.

00:49:54.000 For the balance of the hour, ladies and gentlemen, here is large sections of the event streamed by Rockfin.

00:50:00.000 Find the whole interview there.

00:50:03.000 We'll also be linking to it on InfoWars.com.

00:50:05.000 But here it is.

00:50:07.000 Yeah, you know, I just, I, this week I had to spend time explaining what I thought was never necessary

00:50:13.000 to explain, which is you can, if you're a journalist, for example, go and speak to someone

00:50:17.000 without making clear whether you love that person or hate that person, but simply to try and understand them.

00:50:22.000 It's kind of fundamental to what journalists are supposed to do.

00:50:25.000 And I think that's the same for filmmakers and artists and documentarians and the fact that you even have

00:50:31.000 to explain yourself the fact that it's unusual to watch a film without constantly being bombarded

00:50:37.000 with the filmmaker's moral perspective, I think, is a testament to just how repressive the society has

00:50:43.000 become, and I really want to congratulate you for resisting that and for kind

00:50:47.000 of restoring what I think is the purpose of art and journalism

00:50:50.000 and film and documentaries, which is to show the public information that they ought to have

00:50:57.000 and let them decide what they think about it as opposed to shoving that conclusion down their face.

00:51:02.000 And life is a lot easier for you, as I said, if you had --

00:51:05.000 I've chosen a different route, but I think it takes a lot of courage for you to do that, and I think it's important.

00:51:09.000 So I want to congratulate you for that.

00:51:11.000 Thanks, Glenn.

00:51:16.000 All right, so do you want to end the weirdness of talking about Alex Jones right in front of him if he's not here and bring him up on stage?

00:51:23.000 Hey, get up here, AJ. 1.00

00:51:25.000 Come on Alex.

00:51:27.000 [Applause]

00:51:33.000 Does he have a mic?

00:51:35.000 Yeah, he should have a mic.

00:51:37.000 We can share.

00:51:39.000 No, I mean... I haven't asked anything, Alex.

00:51:42.000 Do you want to talk?

00:51:44.000 Shylock Raiders attack! 1.00

00:51:47.000 No, no, no.

00:51:48.000 No, I mean, listen.

00:51:49.000 I got into this on AXS TV when I was 21 years old.

00:51:53.000 But I meant everything in purity.

00:51:55.000 I made a lot of mistakes.

00:51:56.000 I've done a lot of bad stuff.

00:51:57.000 It wasn't on purpose.

00:51:58.000 So it's great to be here with Greenwald.

00:52:00.000 It's great to be here with Alex Moyer.

00:52:02.000 And the thing is, I didn't lie on purpose.

00:52:04.000 I made a lot of mistakes.

00:52:06.000 But I'm not some person getting orders and lying to people.

00:52:09.000 And we're probably like 90% accurate, 10% wrong.

00:52:12.000 And I want to get better.

00:52:14.000 And so that's just where I'm at.

00:52:15.000 And it's great to be here.

00:52:16.000 And I'm glad you made a film that just kind of shows what we've done.

00:52:19.000 Because I look at it, it's kind of horrifying how obnoxious I am.

00:52:23.000 And then parts of it are good.

00:52:24.000 But I mean, I did this from a pure place.

00:52:27.000 And that's, at the end of the day, like, I did not lie to people on purpose.

00:52:31.000 I didn't make mistakes on purpose.

00:52:32.000 And I'm just glad you guys made this film.

00:52:38.000 So Alex, let me actually begin by asking you a little bit about that in terms of your intentions and the like, because I remember when I watched the film, it was just so striking, this early footage of you.

00:52:50.000 And I remember when the internet first discovered some of the early pictures of you from your public access days in Austin, I remember liberals being almost horrified, like with this cognitive dissonance, like we're supposed to look at him as a screaming, spitting monster, and yet these pictures are disturbingly handsome.

00:53:04.000 In this, like, very mainstream, normal way, you obviously from the beginning had a kind of charisma, a natural charisma in front of the camera.

00:53:12.000 That's what people even said from the first time they saw you.

00:53:15.000 And so when you combine these attributes that you had when you were young, I think you clearly, had you been somebody who was willing to affirm rather than question establishment pieties, could have ended up as, like, a meteorologist on, like, Good Morning America, or, like, some Anderson Cooper type.

00:53:31.000 And I'm wondering if you were aware of that potential and purposely chose to reject it for a different path, this kind of path of misfits and outcasts that we're surrounded by delightfully, or whether it was just so natural to your personality that you never even considered trying to pursue that kind of mainstream acceptability.

00:53:52.000 Glenn, I was thinking about driving her today.

00:53:55.000 What I wanted to say, and I forgot it, but thank God you brought that up.

00:53:59.000 No, no, no, seriously.

00:54:00.000 No, it's really intuitive.

00:54:03.000 My enemies say I'm this Lex Luthor mastermind, and I would love to say that.

00:54:08.000 It's none of that.

00:54:09.000 I had no... I could study the news and politics and read, like, books by Zbigniew Brzezinski, and, like, these were scary things.

00:54:18.000 But I had no training, no idea, no plan.

00:54:21.000 And this idea that, like, I'm this mastermind.

00:54:25.000 It's the opposite.

00:54:27.000 I mean, I can't balance my checkbook.

00:54:29.000 You know, and so, and I'm not trying to put myself down.

00:54:33.000 It's just like, they literally think I'm like this evil mastermind, and I literally can't balance my checkbook.

00:54:38.000 And they're just like attacking me constantly, like, where's the secret?

00:54:42.000 Where's the Russians? 0.91

00:54:43.000 Where's the, who's giving the immersers? 1.00

00:54:44.000 Who's giving the orders?

00:54:46.000 I'm like, I'm just covering the news.

00:54:47.000 I'm just giving my opinion on something.

00:54:49.000 And so, no, I had no idea what I was doing.

00:54:52.000 I just was pro-America, and like, kind of a libertarian, and like, didn't like Republicans, didn't like Democrats, and I was just watching all this happen, and I said, God, I get on AXS TV?

00:55:01.000 So I tried to go to college, tried to get an RTF job, and they're like, I don't think in five years you'll even be able to do anything in radio.

00:55:08.000 So I, and I was like, well, I'll be on AXS TV.

00:55:10.000 So that was, it was basically, I had my own political beliefs.

00:55:14.000 We're just pro-freedom that I got involved that was immediately successful that I was like trying to like figure out as I went I'm trying to be truthful made a lot of mistakes along the way but none of it was with malice none of it was meant to hurt anybody Yeah, we're going to talk about the mistakes for sure in a few minutes, because it wouldn't be a complete discussion without that.

00:55:33.000 But before we get to that, the question of your politics I think is so interesting, and this is what was striking me watching the film, is there's this idea that if you ask somebody with what political faction or ideology is Alex Jones associated, they would instantly say, oh, the far right.

00:55:50.000 And I'm watching you Well before most people thought about doing it, spreading huge amounts of skepticism and doubt about the CIA, the US security state, you're confronting the FBI, well before Trump began spreading that kind of skepticism in Republican circles, you even are talking about the NSA before 9-11, you're warning about the dangers of exaggerating the threats of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in order to kind of bring it into a sort of

00:56:16.000 Authoritarian imbalance.

00:56:19.000 Lots of things that people very associated with the left have been saying for a long time, kind of opposing these institutions of authoritarianism, warning about how they exploit people's perceptions to put the population in fear.

00:56:34.000 How have you seen yourself ideologically and politically along the years?

00:56:39.000 Exactly.

00:56:41.000 Starting out like 95, 96, first articles were like, Communist Alex Jones is anti-American.

00:56:47.000 Because I was against wars and surveillance.

00:56:49.000 Because that just seemed like, well Bill of Rights says you don't do this, so this is bad.

00:56:54.000 And I was just following the Constitution really ham-fistedly.

00:56:56.000 And I was like, well I see all this news about this.

00:56:59.000 And so I wasn't even being right-wing or left-wing.

00:57:02.000 I was simply thinking, "I want to promote freedom.

00:57:04.000 That's a fun thing to do."

00:57:06.000 And so that's really where it came from.

00:57:08.000 And then that's why, like, Martin Sheen, 18 years ago or so, said,

00:57:14.000 "Hey, we want to fly you out here to California, and we want you to, you know --"

00:57:19.000 Milo Estevez's son.

00:57:21.000 "We really love what you're doing."

00:57:22.000 So I get to their house, and it's like I'm sitting down there putting movies on.

00:57:25.000 I'm like, "So you're really a good liberal, right?

00:57:27.000 You're against these wars, and you're against George Bush." 0.86

00:57:29.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm against George Bush.

00:57:31.000 And they didn't care that I was pro-gun or any of this stuff.

00:57:34.000 It was like, I'm sitting there like, oh, Anthony Hopkins is coming over for dinner.

00:57:37.000 Let's have dinner right now.

00:57:38.000 So like, we're talking like 18 years ago.

00:57:40.000 I'm sitting with Anthony Hopkins eating roast beef at like Martin Sheen's house in Malibu.

00:57:46.000 And I'm like, what's this place?

00:57:47.000 Because I had no idea.

00:57:48.000 Like a private jet lands, flies back to California.

00:57:50.000 They're like, you're a very important young filmmaker.

00:57:53.000 You're exposing the evil right-wingers.

00:57:55.000 I'm like, I just don't want to have a war.

00:57:57.000 I don't want to support what these people are doing.

00:58:00.000 And so there was that.

00:58:01.000 And then as soon as Obama got in, they're like, wait a minute, this is Obama.

00:58:06.000 And I'm like, well, I don't like Obama's continuing the same stuff.

00:58:11.000 So to me, I literally just went on Access TV at like 21 years old, got a local radio show at 22, got syndicated at 23, totally self-taught, made a ton of mistakes.

00:58:21.000 But I did it for a place of truth.

00:58:23.000 And then I experienced, like, Hollywood and what it does, and the right wing, and then just... I've had this great experience over 28 years on air of, like, seeing all the weird underbellies of all this stuff because I didn't come into it from the establishment.

00:58:40.000 I literally came out of AXS TV in Austin, Texas, and so because I wasn't part of any of the power structures, I got to see stuff nobody else has seen.

00:58:48.000 So let me ask you a similar question to the one I asked Alex, which is, you know, it is so striking when I began writing about politics in 2005, liberals hated, more than anybody, George Bush, the architects of the Iraq War.

00:59:01.000 I began writing in opposition to rendition and the torture regime and Guantanamo and due process-free imprisonment.

00:59:08.000 It's just so striking that all the people back then who were implementing it, were advocating it, are completely acceptable, in fact, beloved in mainstream liberal circles.

00:59:19.000 Liberals watch media outlets and consume media outlets that employ those people.

00:59:23.000 As I was saying, I could interview all of them and I would be applauded by liberals, and yet you, who back in 2004 were saying, don't trust George W. Bush, his father was the CIA director, the Iraq War is based on lies, all things that auto-appeal to that sensibility of liberals. You are uniquely castigated

00:59:41.000 and kind of cast out of good company to the point where you're one of the very few people that

00:59:45.000 even journalists are told they can't speak to. Why is that? Why have you been

00:59:50.000 identified as such a threat in a way that other people who actually have blood on their

00:59:55.000 hands and wars on their legacy aren't even remotely cast as?

00:59:59.000 Well, I mean, that's a great question. And I, again, only learned this, Glenn, through

01:00:03.000 organic experience of it. But if I lied about WMDs, if I killed billions of people, I'm 0.53

01:00:10.000 part of the establishment.

01:00:12.000 But they're not scared of Alex Jones.

01:00:14.000 They're scared of populist movements.

01:00:16.000 And the fact that I wasn't left wing or right wing, the fact that I was just pro-America and pro-freedom, they It really wasn't me.

01:00:26.000 They just saw me as like the American people.

01:00:29.000 And like, okay, this is what the American people produced.

01:00:33.000 This is organic.

01:00:34.000 Because they went and checked out who I was and knew I wasn't controlled.

01:00:36.000 They're like, well, this guy just came out of the dirt.

01:00:39.000 And so this is the enemy.

01:00:41.000 And so it's their hatred of the general public, their hatred of the organic grassroots.

01:00:46.000 It's not me.

01:00:47.000 It's their hatred of just good, decent, classical liberal Americans I'm not that strong.

01:00:53.000 They're weak.

01:00:53.000 and want justice and want unity and want justice and want everybody to live in peace.

01:00:58.000 We don't want to hurt anybody.

01:00:59.000 We're not judging anybody.

01:00:59.000 We just want our freedom.

01:01:01.000 And so that's what freaked them out. 1.00

01:01:03.000 Like, well, this guy could get this popular and he's just some idiot on AXS TV. 1.00

01:01:07.000 What are we gonna do? 1.00

01:01:08.000 So I'm a symbol of their insecurity.

01:01:10.000 I'm not that strong.

01:01:12.000 They're weak.

01:01:13.000 And that's what I'm scared of.

01:01:14.000 (audience applauding)

01:01:17.000 So, you know, it is interesting that the thing they hate most

01:01:23.000 are people who develop influence and a significant audience

01:01:26.000 without being captive to their structures and their influence.

01:01:29.000 And that is something that defines what you've done, You came out of public access TV, which was tolerated because it's supposed to be a joke that no one watches, and yet you developed this gigantic audience.

01:01:40.000 And clearly, part of why is because you have a kind of showman charisma, a kind of, you know, entertainment component to you that made people want to watch.

01:01:49.000 And one of the things that struck me was, you know, you were talking early on in this funny episode about how when you were 12, you would see these preachers with Rolls Royces and gigantic houses doing coke off hookers' breasts and whatever.

01:02:01.000 And they developed an audience because they had this similar kind of showmanship.

01:02:05.000 They were able to get people to watch.

01:02:06.000 And by the end of the film, we're watching you talking about praying for President Bush and satanic influences in a way that seems... I'm just wondering... No, let's be honest.

01:02:15.000 I became the Abyss.

01:02:16.000 Okay, but do you notice that kind of similarity?

01:02:21.000 No, when you nailed it, I became what I saw.

01:02:24.000 But for a good cause, but it wasn't on purpose.

01:02:27.000 Only at 48 can I now see it. 1.00

01:02:29.000 No, I was like, damn, that's a hot slut that preacher's banging on his back porch. 1.00

01:02:34.000 That Rolls-Royce looks pretty damn nice! 0.99

01:02:36.000 No, I mean, I wasn't doing that consciously, but yeah, there's definitely... I mean, I'm not going to lie.

01:02:41.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:02:42.000 I'm a preacher.

01:02:43.000 And so, only now at like 48, the last few years, I'm like, whoa, what have I been doing?

01:02:48.000 I've kind of like... The things, you get old, you go, damn, what'd I just do? 0.95

01:02:51.000 You're like, damn, I did all that? 1.00

01:02:53.000 Like, God, I'm a freaking horrible person. 0.99

01:02:56.000 But then, I didn't do it consciously. 0.96

01:02:59.000 The establishment is lying according to formulas.

01:03:01.000 I didn't ever do stuff on purpose.

01:03:04.000 But I want to absolve myself.

01:03:05.000 I haven't done that much bad, but you know I've been I've done so bad That's very intuitive very that's what you said.

01:03:11.000 It's true.

01:03:11.000 I have I'm like it's true.

01:03:14.000 I am the crazy preacher. 0.92

01:03:15.000 Well.

01:03:16.000 That's that's why I put it in the movie Alex No, I got the movie.

01:03:21.000 I was horrified.

01:03:22.000 I had to walk out five times You think I was sitting there like this is really great.

01:03:26.000 I I look like Jabba the Hutt up there on PCP or something.

01:03:33.000 The difference is I didn't do it on purpose.

01:03:35.000 Imagine the people that know this stuff and they go, I like this.

01:03:40.000 Let me talk about January 6th.

01:03:42.000 It's obviously a prominent part of the film.

01:03:44.000 And I think one of the things people probably don't know--

01:03:47.000 I didn't know this until I saw the film--

01:03:49.000 was what a vocal effort you made to urge the public to be nonviolent, at least because you

01:03:56.000 knew if they weren't, it would strategically backfire.

01:04:01.000 Looking back on what happened with January 6 and the fact that most people there

01:04:07.000 did heed those warnings to be nonviolent, but a few people didn't.

01:04:11.000 And they were able to take that and spin this insurrection narrative out of it that, to this very day,

01:04:16.000 is the thing they're trying to have shape, Trump movement and Donald Trump itself. Do you look back on

01:04:23.000 January 6th as something that was a huge strategic error with regret or do you think

01:04:29.000 that it's basically been a media distortion that has taken what was otherwise a good

01:04:33.000 event and turned it into something darker?

01:04:36.000 You know, it's a paradox. The cool Republican thing is to say, we did a great job. Screw

01:04:40.000 you Democrats. But I had we had so many other events around the country and DC with like 0.97

01:04:47.000 half a million people that I didn't expect it would go haywire.

01:04:50.000 I thought the police would be there and it would be controlled. But it was a

01:04:54.000 disaster. And and then I get subpoenaed. I spent a half million dollars lawyers the last

01:05:00.000 year and a half like with the federal government's FBI subpoenas just crawling all

01:05:05.000 over us. And they just keep asking, we want the Trump meeting where he gave me the orders. I

01:05:09.000 haven't talked to Trump like a year before January 6th. I'm gonna say it's the truth.

01:05:12.000 They have all my phone records.

01:05:14.000 And so so so I'm I mean, I'm mad that we got lured into that trap. But at the same time,

01:05:21.000 I'm more mad about how they said it was bigger than Pearl Harbor and big as 9/11.

01:05:27.000 Chuck Schumer's like, this was as big as Pearl Harbor and 9-11.

01:05:31.000 No, dude, 3,000 people died at each event.

01:05:33.000 This is not as big as Pearl Harbor.

01:05:35.000 It was terrible. 1.00

01:05:36.000 And we just walked like idiots into this. 1.00

01:05:38.000 You're in DC, it's so massive, and you're like, well I expect the authorities are in command here. 1.00

01:05:43.000 We got a million people there, and I just expected that the system would be in place, and it wasn't.

01:05:50.000 And I'm mad at Pelosi trying to block Trump with his 10,000 troops.

01:05:55.000 I'm upset with Trump waiting, you know, over an hour and a half while all this was going on.

01:06:00.000 I mean, I'm out there trying to stop what's happening.

01:06:02.000 And I'm also mad we learned it was like a thousand feds and military were in plainclothes.

01:06:06.000 So I'm like, don't go in the building, don't go in the building.

01:06:08.000 If they just stood up, it wouldn't happen.

01:06:10.000 So it's a very complex situation, but you've had all over to do.

01:06:17.000 It shows, like, we tried to launch a peaceful demonstration of our numbers to show we didn't buy the election, which obviously, look at Biden.

01:06:24.000 I mean, the guy can't tie his shoelaces.

01:06:26.000 He didn't win the election.

01:06:27.000 We were trying to show, hey, he can't get 10 people.

01:06:29.000 Remember, he'd have, like, campaign events at, like, a Chevy dealership?

01:06:33.000 Like, cars?

01:06:34.000 Well, there's a Jeep right there, and there's a something over there.

01:06:39.000 So we wanted a big number.

01:06:41.000 That's what Trump wanted. 0.99

01:06:42.000 And I just feel like a fool walking into that trap. 0.98

01:06:46.000 Glenn, it's a complex issue, but... 0.97

01:06:49.000 If I had it all to do again, I would have just stepped back and said, Biden, just sink the ship and see what happens.

01:06:56.000 Because, man, I'm not a revolutionary leader in like war.

01:06:59.000 I'm not trying to lead troops.

01:07:01.000 I don't have some weird thing in my head like I need to be a military GI Joe guy.

01:07:05.000 But when you get a million people in D.C., it doesn't matter.

01:07:09.000 Even if they're being manipulated, it's still your responsibility.

01:07:13.000 So I have a lot of guilt over January 6th.

01:07:15.000 Because it could have gone really bad.

01:07:17.000 If the federal provocateurs had their way, they would have, the Q people would have actually kidnapped Mike Pence and Pelosi and put them in handcuffs. 0.98

01:07:26.000 Woo! 0.99

01:07:26.000 We'd be in martial law right now. 0.99

01:07:28.000 Because that wouldn't have been us capturing the Capitol.

01:07:30.000 That would have been the country going down the tube.

01:07:32.000 So we came in... January 6th in closing was a dud.

01:07:37.000 It was meant to provocateur us into a violent event that was meant to get out of control.

01:07:41.000 Thank God it failed.

01:07:43.000 And so I feel like I've been brought to the edge of death.

01:07:46.000 And so January 6th to me is very serious.

01:07:48.000 Let me ask you about the underlying cause of January 6th, which nominally, at least, was the idea that there had been widespread fraud in the 2020 election, that Donald Trump actually won the states like Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and others, and that because of fraud, they had swung the rightful victor, which is Donald Trump, to Joe Biden.

01:08:09.000 There is a point in the film where you were talking about Sandy Hook, and I thought something you said was very poignant, which is anyone can kind of get carried away in their ideology, where you start almost becoming so anti-establishment.

01:08:20.000 I definitely feel this myself sometimes, that you kind of want to cast doubt

01:08:24.000 on what the establishment is saying simply because they lie so often that you want to kind of make the point that these

01:08:30.000 are untrustworthy institutions independent of the argument you're making.

01:08:34.000 In this case where you were saying there was widespread fraud, did you actually

01:08:38.000 conduct what you feel like is kind of a meticulous, a forensic analysis of the voting patterns

01:08:43.000 and conclude that there was fraud in these states sufficient

01:08:46.000 to have swung the election?

01:08:47.000 Or is this kind of an ethos, like a way of saying that the establishment was so against Trump

01:08:53.000 in illegitimate ways that I'm going to kind of endorse this cause not because

01:08:58.000 it's necessarily true in its particulars but more as kind of a thematic way of

01:09:02.000 protesting. No I mean I'll be honest which is which the establishment doesn't

01:09:06.000 do I'll be honest. It was a yeah no it was a pre-baked deal that obviously

01:09:12.000 Biden's not going to get more votes than Trump and we saw all the weird you know

01:09:16.000 anomalies and like Democrats blocking the windows and people like feeding

01:09:21.000 machines full of things.

01:09:22.000 And so we saw some evidence, but we were expecting it.

01:09:26.000 And so, yeah, you can say it's kind of a foregone conclusion.

01:09:29.000 And we all look through rose-colored darklies, but I think it's kind of 50-50. 0.85

01:09:32.000 And then now in hindsight, with 2,000 mules and all those numbers come out, I mean, I think that obviously I don't think Biden got more votes than Trump.

01:09:38.000 But in a sick way, it's better that Biden's in.

01:09:41.000 So we now get to see what the establishment's really about.

01:09:43.000 But, but yeah, I, uh, I mean, we expect election fraud right away.

01:09:47.000 And so kind of when you're a hammer, everything's a nail.

01:09:50.000 I mean, I think we distorted our views, obviously.

01:09:53.000 And they'll say, Jones admits he distorted views.

01:09:56.000 Now there was evidence of the fraud and it got covered up and got suppressed, but I'm not going to lie and say we didn't, I didn't distort my views in hindsight to what was happening.

01:10:06.000 Yeah, you know, I think one of the things I think about a lot is the established media, its function is to spread disinformation.

01:10:14.000 They lie constantly in ways far worse than what you just kind of... Exactly.

01:10:19.000 I admit I'm wrong because I don't want to be a liar like them on purpose.

01:10:22.000 Like Russiagate. 0.99

01:10:24.000 I mean, calling you a conspiracy theorist is so hilarious given that for four years the leading institutions of our country were insisting that the Kremlin had seized the levers of power in the United States by virtue of sexual blackmail over Donald Trump, the sort of, you know, kind of like Robert Ludlow novel from the Cold War that would get rejected for being too stupid and banal. 0.95

01:10:47.000 That was like the leading narrative of our Disperse for so long. 0.56

01:10:51.000 However, when you are somebody who's standing against kind of establishment authority and establishment institutions, you know that one of the things they're going to do is seize on any mistake that you make.

01:11:01.000 And this is what I kind of try and counsel people all the time who are trying to be dissidents, which is you need to be a thousand times more careful because they can lie all the time and no one's going to call them out on it because they're on the side of the people with the more powerful megaphones.

01:11:16.000 Do you feel like you, on some occasions, have paid insufficient attention to the need not to hand your enemies really easy and cheap weapons for them to take and bash you over the head with?

01:11:30.000 100%, Glenn.

01:11:31.000 Because I'm a 48 now, and the last year has been a learning process, but I never realized how big the show was.

01:11:36.000 It's been big for 20 years.

01:11:38.000 Really big for 10.

01:11:39.000 And so, I would just kind of like, I would say, devil's advocate, this, that.

01:11:44.000 And I'd say, this is just a debate, but they will take it out of context.

01:11:47.000 And so when you've got that big a megaphone, just because they're the ones editing it doesn't mean you still have a responsibility to not do that.

01:11:54.000 So I try to be a lot more careful now about things.

01:11:57.000 And my audience actually likes that.

01:11:59.000 I was just untrained and didn't know what I was doing.

01:12:01.000 So most of what I said was accurate and resonated with the grassroots, but some of it was absolutely

01:12:06.000 not right.

01:12:08.000 And it was said with so much confidence because I wasn't lying.

01:12:10.000 Like, you're not lying on purpose, but you're saying it, you believe it.

01:12:14.000 People believe it because you're being genuine.

01:12:17.000 That's even more dangerous.

01:12:18.000 And I think that's what it is.

01:12:19.000 And so unlike CNN or MSNBC or ABC or the New York Times, I want to admit in front of the

01:12:25.000 world that I'm not perfect.

01:12:26.000 I've made a lot of mistakes and I'm trying to figure this out because as you get more

01:12:32.000 power, you realize, wow, I'm really having an effect here.

01:12:36.000 And this affects people.

01:12:37.000 I need to really watch what I'm saying. 0.98

01:12:39.000 But then you see the very people lying on purpose point their finger at you and say, you're a liar.

01:12:44.000 You're putting out this info.

01:12:45.000 And I'm like, dude, I didn't watch all these wars.

01:12:48.000 I'm not lying on purpose.

01:12:49.000 I made mistakes.

01:12:50.000 And that's really what frustrates me is they still kind of moralize like they're this high authority and they have all this stuff.

01:12:56.000 And like, I'm trying to tell the truth.

01:12:59.000 And I get things wrong.

01:13:00.000 They are lying, as you said, on purpose, and they think it's funny.

01:13:03.000 And so, they're not my judge.

01:13:05.000 God's my judge.

01:13:06.000 My viewers are my judge.

01:13:08.000 And so, yes, I will admit in front of my viewers that I've been wrong, and I've made a lot of mistakes, and I apologize for them.

01:13:13.000 But I did it from a place of truth.

01:13:15.000 But I will not be judged by the New York Times.

01:13:17.000 I will not be judged by these people.

01:13:22.000 So, you know, I mentioned before I want to ask you a little bit about Sandy Hook.

01:13:26.000 I know the expectation is I'm supposed to come here and bash you over the head about Sandy Hook.

01:13:29.000 Go ahead. 0.98

01:13:29.000 I deserve it. 0.98

01:13:30.000 I know I have no interest in doing that. 0.98

01:13:31.000 I don't give a shit what the expectations are. 0.98

01:13:33.000 It would bore me if I tried. 0.98

01:13:35.000 You've talked about it extensively for people who are interested in it.

01:13:38.000 You've been deposed about it.

01:13:39.000 You've talked for hours about it.

01:13:40.000 People interested in the particulars can go watch that if they want.

01:13:43.000 I'm not going to jump through hoops in order to appease people's anger that I'm here.

01:13:46.000 I do, though, want to ask you about a question that I'm actually interested in myself, which is, You know, you have just said that you have made mistakes.

01:13:56.000 Obviously one of those is the stuff you said about Sandy Hook.

01:13:59.000 We watched you in the film come very clean about the fact that you made statements that turned out to be untrue.

01:14:04.000 You've obviously spent a lot of kind of reflective time.

01:14:06.000 It's like the soulful Alex Jones we got to see in the last part of the film.

01:14:11.000 What is it that you think caused you to do that?

01:14:15.000 I mean, you referenced some things, and I just identify with it myself, that when people who lie for a living are telling you that you're a liar, when people whose job it is to spread disinformation are accusing you of doing that, you kind of want to dig in a little bit and not give an inch to people who you know aren't criticizing you in good faith.

01:14:35.000 But what is it about Well sure, think of this like a thousand page book, and Sandy Hook in my life is like a quarter page.

01:14:42.000 some of the psychological and cultural dynamics that led you to make some of those mistakes in Sandy Hook?

01:14:48.000 Well, sure.

01:14:49.000 Think of this like a thousand page book.

01:14:51.000 In Sandy Hook, in my life, it's like a quarter page.

01:14:54.000 And not putting down the kids that died or any of that stuff,

01:14:57.000 it's just like, I used to, on the air, go with, I would take calls.

01:15:04.000 It used to be a call difference show.

01:15:05.000 It still is, but like 10 years ago, it was like almost all calls.

01:15:08.000 Like four hours a day.

01:15:09.000 So the callers all call in and say, we don't believe this.

01:15:11.000 It's like, well, let's look at this.

01:15:11.000 Look at this.

01:15:12.000 Let's look at that.

01:15:13.000 They kind of take pieces of that out of context.

01:15:17.000 And so here's a way to describe it.

01:15:18.000 Fast forward to Jesse Smollett.

01:15:20.000 I do a Sunday show.

01:15:21.000 And I guess it was a Saturday night or wherever it was.

01:15:23.000 Maybe it was a Monday show. 0.52

01:15:25.000 I forget, but they say he's at 2.30 in the morning and guys dump bleach on him and put a noose over his head and say it's maggot country.

01:15:32.000 And I'd already been sued for Sandy Hook, and I said, I don't care if I get sued, this doesn't sound real.

01:15:37.000 And of course, it wasn't real.

01:15:39.000 Or that NASCAR driver, Bubba whatever, Bubba Wallace, they had deuces hanging in my thing. 0.95

01:15:46.000 It's like, you just know that's BS.

01:15:48.000 So a lot of it's just, I'm a talk show host. 0.99

01:15:50.000 So I don't go, I'm journalistic, and I have the witnesses, and I have the proof, and you know, Jussie Smollett's full of crap. 1.00

01:15:57.000 But I still went on air, And I said, the day after it happened, I said, Jesse Smollett's full of crap, there's not dudes at 23 below zero, running around at 2.30 in the morning, dumping bleach on black people, get your ass kicked. 1.00

01:16:11.000 I mean, like, you go attack black people in the middle of the night in Chicago, you're looking to die. 1.00

01:16:16.000 I mean, like, run around at 2.30 in the morning, that ain't going on. 0.97

01:16:20.000 So to me it's kind of like, The internet doesn't buy anything that's told anymore because they've been lied to so much.

01:16:26.000 I mean, take Evaldi.

01:16:28.000 I didn't say anything about Evaldi.

01:16:30.000 The head of state police said, everything we've been told to lie, we don't know what happened.

01:16:34.000 I mean, project what you want on lies and incompetence and a 77 minute stand down.

01:16:39.000 The police are putting hand sanitizers.

01:16:42.000 Glenn, I'm sorry it's a long answer.

01:16:44.000 What was the question?

01:16:47.000 What do you think led you into these kind of errors that you've been describing?

01:16:52.000 Great question.

01:16:53.000 It was just being on air four or five hours a day.

01:16:55.000 You're very cavalier.

01:16:57.000 And so you're not putting a journalistic filter on things.

01:17:00.000 When I write an article, I would do that.

01:17:01.000 When I make a film, I was like getting every piece together.

01:17:03.000 Those were pretty good films.

01:17:04.000 I watched my films from 20 years ago.

01:17:06.000 They're pretty accurate.

01:17:07.000 But you're on Air Cavalier and you're like drinking vodka and smoking cigarettes and like, you know, doing whatever.

01:17:13.000 And you're like, you're like, yeah, I hear you, it's a bunch of fake BS, man.

01:17:17.000 And like, you're sued for it, oh God.

01:17:19.000 So, so, and then once I got into that process, you know, once they came after me for it, once Hillary made a big issue out of it, it was a, you know, totally different ball game.

01:17:29.000 And then, and what makes me mad is they misrepresented what I said and what I did.

01:17:37.000 And then in the trials they have coming up starting next week, they defaulted me and the judge in Texas issued orders.

01:17:43.000 Forget Alex Jones, let's say I'm Hitler.

01:17:46.000 The order says, cannot mention First Amendment.

01:17:50.000 It's in the order.

01:17:51.000 Cannot say you're innocent.

01:17:54.000 It cannot say it's a show trial.

01:17:56.000 It's in an order.

01:17:57.000 So I'm probably going to probably boycott the trial or something because that's not a trial where if I was a guy caught again With 20 dead bodies in my basement, I could get up, they're like, Mr. Jones, we have the dead bodies and we have them in your basement.

01:18:13.000 I'm still innocent, your honor.

01:18:14.000 A judge has never said you can't say you're innocent.

01:18:17.000 That is in a court order starting next Wednesday that I cannot say I'm innocent.

01:18:23.000 So I'm not even feeling sorry for myself.

01:18:25.000 I'm like, whoa.

01:18:27.000 This is the end of the country and so whatever things I did weren't on purpose and I had 10 points to make on your question.

01:18:36.000 It was a really big question.

01:18:37.000 No, I mean I think you know it's interesting and I've identified this with myself and I think if you start off as kind of this outsider, you start off as like on access TV, you start growing a little bit in influence, growing a little bit in influence and suddenly you That's why you're a great journalist.

01:18:51.000 I think one of the most influential people in the country with one of the largest audiences,

01:18:56.000 it's hard I think sometimes to remind yourself I'm not that guy on AXS TV in Austin anymore

01:19:00.000 because it wasn't all that long ago when you weren't getting so much scrutiny and then

01:19:04.000 suddenly you're subjected to more scrutiny than anybody.

01:19:07.000 And I think it's hard to try and, you know, kind of adapt with that because it's kind

01:19:11.000 of a slow and incremental process.

01:19:12.000 That's why you're a great writer, great journalist.

01:19:14.000 That's exactly what I'm going to say.

01:19:16.000 Because, no, no, because they go back.

01:19:18.000 They go back!

01:19:19.000 And they go back ten years, five years, and you're like...

01:19:23.000 I drank a bottle of vodka that day.

01:19:24.000 Jesus, I said that?

01:19:26.000 I'm going to be honest about it.

01:19:27.000 I'm not going to lie to people.

01:19:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:31.000 Let me ask you this because I obviously do a lot of work on internet censorship.

01:19:35.000 I've done a lot of work on free speech for decades.

01:19:38.000 People forget that, in a lot of ways, you were the first house case for whether big tech could just depersonalize somebody from the internet by uniting all at once and just banning you from speaking.

01:19:50.000 And it's so striking because the reason you were able to develop an audience is even in the 90s when you're talking about the United States being repressive, you still had the freedom.

01:19:59.000 You weren't going to get a job at the New York Times as a columnist saying that stuff, but you were able to go on AXS TV and build an audience and go on radio.

01:20:08.000 And now we're at the point where you can't be heard on the internet.

01:20:12.000 You're not allowed to use any of the major venues of communication that we all use to disseminate information.

01:20:18.000 You can't hear from Alex Jones unless you go purposely looking for you and it's hard to find.

01:20:22.000 What has that been like?

01:20:23.000 What do you kind of see as somebody who's been at the center of it?

01:20:27.000 What the pattern has been in terms of censorship and free speech over the last couple decades?

01:20:32.000 Well, I don't say this to sound like I care about everybody, which I do care about everybody.

01:20:36.000 We're all connected, but it's not like some thing I just throw out there.

01:20:40.000 I really figured out early on when they were like writing about it.

01:20:43.000 They had a Wall Street Journal article like six years ago, five and a half years ago that said, I forget the exact headline, but they had a Gizmodo article about it that linked to it.

01:20:52.000 It was like a subscription article.

01:20:54.000 It was like a 15-page article, but the article was, hold on to your ten-fold hat, Alex Jones.

01:20:59.000 YouTube is about to ban you.

01:21:01.000 So my crew members go, you need to read this.

01:21:03.000 So they printed it off, and I went and read the Wall Street Journal article.

01:21:05.000 I forget the exact headline.

01:21:06.000 I was like, we're going to ban Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and Alex Jones.

01:21:10.000 And once we ban Julian Assange and the left puts up with it, then we'll be able to ban Alex Jones and the right when he puts up with it, we'll be able to ban everything.

01:21:18.000 And so, I really understood that this wasn't me.

01:21:23.000 When there was like, no exaggeration, sometimes 500 articles a day. 0.93

01:21:28.000 Every TV station, Jones is an actor, he's a fake, he's a fraud.

01:21:32.000 And I was able to handle it because I was realizing, this isn't me. 0.99

01:21:36.000 I've acted like a jackass out of context.

01:21:39.000 I've done some bad things. 0.75

01:21:40.000 So I am seen as the work covered example, the exhibit that they're going to use.

01:21:51.000 I wasn't that work covered creature, but if you looked at the huge amount of stuff

01:21:54.000 I did you could really piece together like that's a horrible person and so they built me up as this big monster

01:22:00.000 To think that everybody to go. Yeah screw that guy He doesn't deserve free speech and then once I fell 0.95

01:22:06.000 everybody else felt like dominoes So that kind of gave me solace but also upset me that they 0.93

01:22:11.000 were torching American freedom using me as the first domino and so I kind of transcended

01:22:18.000 who I was and Realized that only because the Wall Street Journal

01:22:22.000 was it like a NATO meeting

01:22:26.000 I forget the exact article.

01:22:26.000 It was like the NATO intelligence head was saying this, like, we'll get Assange, and then once they... She's from the State Department, she heard about this, she was there.

01:22:35.000 Once we get Assange, then we'll get Jones.

01:22:37.000 I'm like reading this going, what the... I was seen as an example that they were going to get.

01:22:46.000 Once you're hit with something that big, it's like you're in Star Wars and 20 Star Destroyers show up to blow you up.

01:22:51.000 It's like you're not even intimidated anymore.

01:22:53.000 You're like, what the hell is this?

01:22:54.000 I don't know how to describe it, Glenn.

01:22:56.000 No, no, you know, I remember back then, you know, I was trying to get the left and other people who used to pretend to believe in free speech to actually care and be concerned about your banning, saying, do you actually think they're going to stop? 0.97

01:23:08.000 They picked flamboyant clowns. 0.96

01:23:09.000 Exactly. 0.98

01:23:09.000 And I'll admit that. 0.98

01:23:10.000 They did the same thing to Milo Yiannopoulos.

01:23:12.000 They said they're purposely picking the people they know are highly unpopular in establishment circles

01:23:17.000 so that they can have you cheer the president, which they will then use not just against others,

01:23:22.000 but against your own allies also. 0.99

01:23:24.000 They picked flamboyant clowns. Exactly. And I'll admit that. 0.99

01:23:27.000 That's what they did.

01:23:28.000 And then that's what makes it sick is I'm being used as the instrument to take everybody else's freedom.

01:23:33.000 That's my only guilt.

01:23:34.000 Yeah, you know, when I got picked up at the airport, I was told that there was some difficulty for a while getting a venue here in Austin to do this event, that when they found out that you were involved, they said, you know what, on second thought, we're not really interested in your money.

01:23:50.000 And I thought about it for a minute, and at first I said, okay, yeah, of course that's the case.

01:23:55.000 And then I realized, That shouldn't be so comforting like normal to hear.

01:24:00.000 That should be chilling and alarming.

01:24:02.000 I should be, what do you mean we're in the United States?

01:24:05.000 Why is it difficult to get a venue to show a film about somebody who has a lot, and we've been so conditioned.

01:24:11.000 We're getting too comfortable.

01:24:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I think there's a kind of repression that has emerged that we've been trained for so long to think takes place in other places that we have a very hard time recognizing that we're actually subject to that level of repression here.

01:24:27.000 Have you had problems with the film, like this film, getting distribution and other kind of publicity for it that you didn't have with the first film?

01:24:36.000 Have you noticed greater difficulty?

01:24:38.000 There's a bear shit in the woods?

01:24:40.000 Well, sort of, but also we read the tea leaves after what happened with our last film and we took matters into our own hands and things to play nice. 0.99

01:24:53.000 Hi!

01:24:55.000 We, you know, we started basically talking to people outside of Hollywood, and I'm not, I mean, I don't, I'm a free agent.

01:25:05.000 I'm not playing nice, but we're a team on this movie for sure, and there are people that are interested in seeing authentic content, you know, and 1AMDC and Amanda Milius can vouch for that too.

01:25:17.000 But, you know, we're building an alternative sort of economy and an alternative show business, actually, for this kind of thing.

01:25:28.000 But, yeah, no, it's challenging, but I just expect that.

01:25:35.000 But we're also number two after Top Gun, so...

01:25:38.000 Yeah!

01:25:39.000 Let me ask Alex and Glenda a very nice question.

01:25:42.000 How do you see this backfiring?

01:25:43.000 Because I've studied history, in hindsight, and tyranny, especially in the West, always gets responded to in a big way, like Hitler, the Communists, you know, all of it. 0.60

01:25:54.000 I don't, I think the backlash of this is going to be massive.

01:25:56.000 I mean, what are you seeing, Glenn?

01:25:58.000 Yeah, no, it's funny, Alex, because that was the last question I was going to ask you, was exactly that one, because there were times in the film when you were saying, you know, you were seeming a little nihilistic, like things are really grim.

01:26:09.000 But obviously, you see some hope.

01:26:11.000 If you didn't, you wouldn't be doing this.

01:26:13.000 There's a lot of other things you can be doing.

01:26:15.000 And I think it's exactly right, I think, when I look at this polling data that shows that 80 or 85 percent of the public now despises corporate media outlets to the

01:26:24.000 same extent that I do, feels the same nausea and indignation when thinking about

01:26:29.000 them.

01:26:30.000 Of course, there's part of me that thinks, "Wow, that's, you know, kind of dangerous

01:26:33.000 for the society to lose complete faith in all institutions of authority." 0.82

01:26:37.000 But they did it.

01:26:38.000 But yeah, they deserve it.

01:26:40.000 That's a valid loss of trust.

01:26:42.000 It's a valid distrust that they have.

01:26:44.000 But in that I see so much opportunity because that is what has driven your ability and my ability and other people's ability to develop an audience.

01:26:54.000 If they had a stranglehold on the thought process of the public, no one would be willing to listen to us question what they're saying.

01:27:01.000 And that's why I want to admit I've been wrong, but not on purpose.

01:27:03.000 I don't want to be with them.

01:27:05.000 So I have been bad.

01:27:06.000 I've made mistakes and I'm sorry.

01:27:08.000 It wasn't on purpose and I apologize.

01:27:09.000 But I am not them on purpose lying.

01:27:12.000 Because they are going down.

01:27:13.000 I am not with them.

01:27:14.000 So, as the last question, let me ask you, you know, we are raised in a country where

01:27:19.000 Let me ask you, we are raised in a country where we're indoctrinated from the beginning

01:27:24.000 we're indoctrinated from the beginning to think of our country as this kind of bastion

01:27:25.000 to think of our country as this kind of bastion of freedom and liberty and repression and

01:27:28.000 of freedom and liberty and repression and tyranny are words that apply only to other

01:27:30.000 tyranny are words that apply only to other countries, the ones we're told to hate.

01:27:36.000 And when you're indoctrinated with those kinds of ideas from the beginning, in all different

01:27:40.000 directions, it's very hard to free yourself from them, even if you start rationally realizing

01:27:44.000 that you should.

01:27:45.000 It's kind of just ingrained in us, like viscerally.

01:27:47.000 You seem to be somebody who from the very beginning, you know, were saying things that

01:27:53.000 in your community and in your politics and in the media were things that were going to

01:27:58.000 cause you to be cast aside as a crazy person or as a conspiracy theorist, going back to

01:28:03.000 the 90s with Waco and the FBI and those sorts of things.

01:28:08.000 Why did that happen?

01:28:09.000 Why did you end up on this path that caused you to just constantly be so skeptical of what you're told by authority?

01:28:17.000 My uncle, William Forrest Hammond, was a heroic helicopter pilot in Vietnam, and then he worked in Iran-Contra.

01:28:25.000 And he wouldn't tell me all the secret stuff, but he said, when I was like a teenager, I was like, I like Rush Limbaugh.

01:28:32.000 And he goes, the Republicans are controlled, the Democrats are controlled.

01:28:35.000 And it's all, I was down there visiting for like two weeks in San Antonio.

01:28:38.000 He said, let me just take you back on the back porch and let's sit down and eat a sandwich and talk about this.

01:28:43.000 He told me about a lot of stuff he saw in Vietnam and how he did these things he was told to do.

01:28:48.000 And then he got worse and worse and worse to the moment he said no.

01:28:53.000 And it was narcotics trafficking in Vietnam.

01:28:55.000 And then it was everything, you know, with the Iran-Contra.

01:28:59.000 It met a point where they were smuggling kids out of orphanages, you know, where they were going.

01:29:04.000 And he said at that point he was done.

01:29:06.000 And so he told me about all that.

01:29:08.000 And then I had other family, you know, that were involved in black operations back when it was all human intelligence. 0.99

01:29:14.000 And like, the Russians were actually here and they were actually in wars.

01:29:17.000 So my dad's cousin was involved in a bunch of stuff.

01:29:20.000 And so I grew up kind of like sitting around the dinner table, like hearing these people talk about this stuff.

01:29:24.000 And so I kind of knew what was going on when other people didn't.

01:29:28.000 And I was just growing up around that.

01:29:30.000 And so I kind of heard that.

01:29:31.000 And then my dad was heavily involved in geopolitics and research and all these books around the house.

01:29:37.000 And so I kind of grew up around that.

01:29:39.000 And these were like pro-American people, but they were saying the government's bad.

01:29:42.000 The government did a lot of bad stuff.

01:29:44.000 It was a bad group taking over.

01:29:46.000 Yeah, but they weren't telling me this.

01:29:48.000 You know, there's a bumper sticker.

01:29:49.000 If you want your children to listen, whisper.

01:29:51.000 They weren't telling me this stuff.

01:29:53.000 This was me hiding around the corner, like, listening to what they were talking about.

01:29:57.000 And so, that's why I had a leg up on it all, was because of a bunch of family stuff.

01:30:03.000 So I was, uh, before I came here I was thinking about where I would be instead of here if I had made different choices to pursue the kind of mainstream accountability, uh, acceptability that I was interested in wondering why you had rejected.

01:30:15.000 And I was thinking I'd probably be in, like, the CNN building with Wolf Blitzer and Chris Hayes and, like, Amy Klobuchar and Nancy Pelosi wanting to kill myself out of boredom and disgust.

01:30:26.000 And, you know, I refer to this crowd as, like, a kind of crowd of misfits and outcasts, and it is, and I'm so happy.

01:30:33.000 So much happier to be around people like this who place themselves on the outside and decide that they're not going to pay that price of kind of, you know, embracing things they don't believe for whatever rewards they offer.

01:30:47.000 And you've been doing this for decades and taking all kinds of slings and arrows and you yourself recognize you made a lot of mistakes.

01:30:54.000 But I'm really glad you've been doing what you're doing.

01:30:56.000 Well, Lynn, I appreciate you coming.

01:30:58.000 I appreciate Alex's whole thing.

01:30:59.000 Thanks, Glenn.

01:31:00.000 Absolutely.

01:31:01.000 Just to close on that.

01:31:02.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:31:06.000 Go ahead, you want to say something?

01:31:08.000 No, I was just thanking you.

01:31:09.000 No, no, but thank you.

01:31:10.000 For being in the movie and, you know, I never really thanked you for being in the movie.

01:31:14.000 Well, you guys are being too nice, but the difference is, I didn't make mistakes on purpose.

01:31:18.000 We all get better, we all fix them.

01:31:21.000 But the larger issue is, we have a lot of... Go ahead, go ahead.

01:31:27.000 I was going to ask you, did you make mistakes on purpose or did you do them intentionally?

01:31:31.000 Do I what?

01:31:34.000 I said it five times.

01:31:35.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:31:36.000 Well, hey, what a great event.

01:31:37.000 And what do you make of the film being number two behind Top Gun?

01:31:40.000 It's going to be pretty big.

01:31:40.000 I don't know if it still is number two behind Top Gun, but let's just keep saying it is.

01:31:45.000 It's not?

01:31:47.000 That's not fake news on purpose.

01:31:48.000 I don't know.

01:31:49.000 All right, everybody.

01:31:51.000 Thanks so much.

01:31:51.000 Hope you enjoy the film.

01:31:52.000 And thanks, Alex.

01:31:54.000 Thanks for supporting Free Speech.

01:31:56.000 I remember what I was going to say, though.

01:31:58.000 I was going to text him and say, "You can interview Charlie Manson."

01:32:01.000 And he had already tweeted that.

01:32:03.000 I was like, "What?"

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