Alex Jones Show - 20240103_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 And so this is just one head of this evil, pedophilic, satanic monster that feeds on our children that's now taking the mask off of the transgenderism and all the attacks on our children's very biology. 1.00

00:00:15.000 Not to mention the Ritalin and the Prozac and all the rest of it that upwards of 30% of our children are on. 0.95

00:00:20.000 So we've got a big stack about the war on children and the war on innocence and the war on our future via our children.

00:00:27.000 That I'll be going over today.

00:00:30.000 Even before Jason joins us, I'm going to start plunging into it at about 33 after show, right after the bottom of the hour.

00:00:37.000 To set all this up, we need to do a deep dive because I've covered all this at Nauseam before, but sometimes to big audiences, sometimes to small.

00:00:45.000 You never know what gets picked up when it's big.

00:00:48.000 And so it's important to restate all this from time to time, because a lot of you have been tuning in for 25 years or longer.

00:00:55.000 Most of you have only been tuning in a few years, and so you don't know this.

00:00:59.000 And I've got to tell you, there's a lot of interest on X and other places in this, and that it's very important, and it's been the top story weeks running now.

00:01:06.000 Epstein's List and the rest of it, and the fact they're holding it back only makes people more enraged wanting to see it.

00:01:16.000 Rallying patriots worldwide in defense of human liberty.

00:01:21.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:01:33.000 And it's time for humanity to stand up in the info war and say, I don't know what's going to happen at the end of this, but you want to fight?

00:01:40.000 You better believe you've got one!

00:01:44.000 From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.

00:01:49.000 Thousands of former Nazis went to work for the United States government.

00:02:12.000 A flying disc has been found and is now in the possession of the army.

00:02:16.000 There is a bulletin from CBS News.

00:02:18.000 President Kennedy has been shot.

00:02:21.000 This is a different kind of war.

00:02:24.000 The USS Liberty had just been attacked by Israeli jets and torpedo boats.

00:02:29.000 The CIA could manipulate the news in the United States.

00:02:32.000 They took the babies out of incubators and left the children to die on a cold floor.

00:02:36.000 It was almost as if it were a plan in motion.

00:02:39.000 It just can't happen.

00:02:40.000 We need to go into the Capitol!

00:02:44.000 You will always have conspiracy theories.

00:02:46.000 They are nothing but distraction.

00:02:48.000 You guys censored Harvard-educated doctors.

00:02:51.000 You silenced those voices.

00:02:52.000 What we want to do in Davos is push the reset button.

00:02:56.000 Soon as we start exposing the Great Reset, the sooner these globalists start going to prison!

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00:03:14.000 If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you.

00:03:20.000 If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, but make allowance for their doubting too.

00:03:27.000 If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, or being lied about, don't deal in lies.

00:03:33.000 Or being hated, don't give way to hating, and yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise.

00:03:42.000 If you can dream and not make dreams your master, if you can think and not make thoughts your aim, if you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same, if you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, or watch the things you gave your life to broken and stoop and build them up with worn-out tools, If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch and toss And booze and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the will which says to them, hold on

00:04:35.000 If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, or walk with kings, nor lose the common touch.

00:04:41.000 If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, if all men count with you, but a nun too much. 1.00

00:04:49.000 If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it.

00:04:59.000 And, which is more, you'll be a man, my son.

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00:05:09.000 We are transferring power from Washington, D.C.

00:05:13.000 and giving it back to you, the people.

00:05:21.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!

00:05:26.000 This is the heart of 1776.

00:05:27.000 Yes, I have thought an awful lot about going up to the White House.

00:05:33.000 Huge nationwide protests erupted once again on President Donald Trump's second weekend in office.

00:05:39.000 They are coming to my house!

00:05:45.000 When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

00:05:51.000 When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

00:05:55.000 Donald J. Trump is now President of the United States.

00:06:01.000 And most importantly, we will be protected by God from the front lines of the info war.

00:06:09.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:06:11.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Wednesday, January 3rd, 2024.

00:06:15.000 Strap yourselves in.

00:06:16.000 We're going to have an incredible transmission with a wrath of important guests.

00:06:20.000 We're doing a deep dive on Epstein.

00:06:21.000 They just sealed the list again.

00:06:23.000 Stay with us.

00:06:24.000 It's Wednesday, January 3rd, 2020.

00:06:28.000 Twenty-three.

00:06:29.000 And we are... Twenty-twenty-four.

00:06:31.000 Wow.

00:06:32.000 And we are... It's going to take some getting used to.

00:06:34.000 And we are hurtling towards this general election with 306 days, 12 hours, 33 minutes, 32 seconds.

00:06:45.000 Again, it is Wednesday, January 3rd, 2024.

00:06:50.000 I am your host, Alex Jones.

00:06:52.000 Very blessed and honored to be here.

00:06:54.000 Okay, let's run down what we're going to be covering and more today, obviously.

00:06:58.000 I'm not going to mention everything we're going to be getting to, because you never know.

00:07:02.000 Stuff's breaking while we're on the air and we have a bunch of special guests joining us.

00:07:05.000 Epstein lists remain sealed until at least January 22nd.

00:07:10.000 I said yesterday, I bet they don't release it today.

00:07:12.000 I bet they seal it again.

00:07:13.000 We're going to talk about why.

00:07:14.000 There's a lot of blackmail going on behind the scenes and some big developments there.

00:07:17.000 But I had filmmaker and former InfoWars host Jason Burmas on yesterday.

00:07:23.000 He was hosting the fourth hour and I hosted part of it with him.

00:07:26.000 And just hearing him rattle off, he's really good at collating everything.

00:07:31.000 I was like, man, there's a lot of angles I've forgotten to restate about Epstein.

00:07:37.000 Because as Burmus points out, I've been covering Epstein for at least a decade, and he reminded me of so much information, and people obsess on flight logs, they obsess on his so-called black book, but the big enchiladas are Manifest and Manifold and Legion.

00:07:57.000 The FBI went and scooped up stuff out of his Zorro ranch, out of his New York sex dungeon, and out of his Caribbean rape island. 0.92

00:08:12.000 But they did take photos and admit that they have hundreds if not thousands, dozens and dozens of boxes full of videotapes and full of CDs and full of computer hard drives.

00:08:23.000 So when I say hundreds if not thousands, it's probably thousands of videos.

00:08:26.000 I mean, you've got buckets, boxes just full of hard drives and full of VHS tapes and full of DVDs.

00:08:36.000 It shows that it's going back many, many, many, many, many, many years.

00:08:42.000 Because you got the VHS from 20 years ago, 25 years ago, 30 years ago.

00:08:47.000 You got the CDs and DVDs from 20 years ago, 10 years ago.

00:08:52.000 And you got all the hard drives.

00:08:56.000 Box after box, closet after closet, room after room, and everybody is completely focused, including myself, even though I'm one of the first to ever talk about all this.

00:09:06.000 If not the first.

00:09:08.000 Only because I was already hot on the trail because of Ted Gunderson.

00:09:12.000 All those patriots that were exposing these networks, that's how I was aware of it, and I knew people in Hollywood, and was told some of the things they'd heard were going on, and also in the news, and a lot of this has come out in the news.

00:09:22.000 I mean, Prince Charles, now King Charles, was in massive scandals, not just with his brother, implicated with Epstein, and photographed there with young women and the rest of it, the prince But also, ladies and gentlemen, the king himself, when he

00:09:38.000 was the prince, the princeling, with Jimmy Savelle and a bunch of others, and the Savelle stuff, 0.93

00:09:43.000 devil worshippers, murdering children, having sex with their dead bodies, I mean, that's 1.00

00:09:49.000 mainstream news. 0.99

00:09:50.000 And in the Dutch Netherlands, there were cases 30 years ago and 25 years ago where they caught

00:09:58.000 judges and police chiefs and intelligence heads running dungeons with dead bodies of

00:10:04.000 children basically in coffins, in boxes, and living children in cages, emaciated.

00:10:11.000 And all the videotapes there got grabbed by the feds.

00:10:14.000 There was the finders case that the feds did do their job in the 80s and they go into this warehouse because they cops In Florida, state police, if I remember correctly, pull over a van with sharp-dressed men in suits, with six or seven little kids, some as young as three, the oldest nine.

00:10:33.000 You look up the case, Teddy Anderson exposed it, and just three years ago, the FBI actually declassified some of it on Twitter.

00:10:40.000 They put up thousands of pages.

00:10:42.000 And it led them back to a three-story, large warehouse that had satellite uplinks, camera production studios, and just rooms full of child rape porn.

00:10:56.000 That actually hit the Washington Times, even the Washington Post.

00:10:59.000 But then it got shut down.

00:11:01.000 Just like when the FBI went into Epstein, finally.

00:11:04.000 They were there to suck it all up. 0.99

00:11:07.000 And so this is just one head of this evil, pedophilic, satanic monster that feeds on our children, that's now taking the mask off of the transgenderism and all the attacks on our children's very biology. 1.00

00:11:23.000 Not to mention the Ritalin and the Prozac and all the rest of it, that upwards of 30% of our children are on. 0.95

00:11:28.000 So we've got a big stack about the war on children and the war on innocence and the war on our future via our children.

00:11:35.000 That I'll be going over today.

00:11:37.000 Even before Jason joins us, I'm going to start plunging into it at about 33 after show, right after the bottom of the hour.

00:11:45.000 To set all this up, we need to do a deep dive because I've covered all this at Nauseam before, but sometimes to big audiences, sometimes to small.

00:11:52.000 You never know what gets picked up as big.

00:11:56.000 And so it's important to restate all this from time to time, because a lot of you have been tuning in for 25 years or longer.

00:12:03.000 Most of you have only been tuning in a few years, and so you don't know this.

00:12:06.000 And I got to tell you, there's a lot of interest on X and other places in this, and that it's very important, and it's been the top story weeks running now.

00:12:14.000 Epstein's List and the rest of it, and the fact they're holding it back only makes people more enraged wanting to see it.

00:12:20.000 But that is a Faint.

00:12:23.000 That is a diversion within a diversion, making us chase after that when the holy grail of the evil they're involved in is the finder's case.

00:12:36.000 And the different House members, Democrats, Barney Frank, with sex slavery operations that came out in Congress. 0.93

00:12:45.000 He got up in Congress and said, if I go down for this, after they raided his townhouse, three-story townhouse, he goes, if I go down for this, this was like 15 years ago, he goes, you're all going down.

00:12:56.000 And they shut that down then.

00:12:59.000 And that was like 15-year-old boys they were having sex with, which is bad enough. 0.97

00:13:04.000 It's terrible. 0.75

00:13:05.000 But we're talking about babies, folks, in many cases.

00:13:08.000 Then you got to get rid of the babies.

00:13:10.000 And of course, you know what they do there.

00:13:11.000 And a lot of times they go ahead and sell them for organ harvesting.

00:13:14.000 I actually have a mainstream news on that I'll be getting to.

00:13:16.000 So it's going to be sick, but it's like lancing a boil.

00:13:20.000 It gets the pus out. 1.00

00:13:21.000 It makes it better having a bad tooth.

00:13:23.000 You got to get a root canal or get that sucker pulled or, you know, get it capped, get it fixed.

00:13:27.000 And there's a lot of pain involved, but it's better than the long term pain of that festering tooth.

00:13:34.000 It's quite a relief when you finally get the dentist chair and after an hour, the pain is gone.

00:13:40.000 So we're going to protect the children.

00:13:41.000 We've got to do this.

00:13:43.000 So I asked Jason Barmas to join me again in the second hour today.

00:13:53.000 And then I have a very interesting guy I've been watching for, I don't know, it's got to be more than a decade and a half on YouTube and places, and that's Brother Nathaniel Kaepner.

00:14:06.000 And I think the guy is very interesting and entertaining.

00:14:09.000 He's Jewish.

00:14:11.000 He's a Jewish Christian.

00:14:13.000 And he's mellowed a bit over the years.

00:14:17.000 And by that I mean actually puts his case out.

00:14:20.000 Attacking people and then so I thought we would hear from a Orthodox, I guess, or Messianic Jew today. 1.00

00:14:27.000 He's not too fond of Israel and I'm gonna get some folks on too who are pro-Israel soon.

00:14:32.000 Like the super informed, awesome folks over that run Rebel Media, Ezra Levant and others.

00:14:40.000 I just recently got invited to go over to Israel and see for myself.

00:14:44.000 I've also been invited to Egypt.

00:14:46.000 I've been invited to Russia.

00:14:49.000 But I haven't gone because there's just too much going on here in America.

00:14:53.000 But I'm tempted to go to all those places I want to.

00:14:57.000 I also want to go to El Salvador.

00:14:59.000 I've been invited down there.

00:15:01.000 The president's office, they say, is open.

00:15:02.000 I can get an interview with him.

00:15:04.000 I already had Bolsonaro offer me an interview three years ago.

00:15:06.000 I should have gone and done it.

00:15:08.000 But Brazil is a lot further away than El Salvador.

00:15:10.000 I get there in about three hours.

00:15:11.000 So just some side issues in the new year, which we're now in, 2024.

00:15:16.000 That'll take some getting used to, that you can look for some of that to be happening.

00:15:21.000 But Levant's, regardless, going to Israel with a crew, and so we'll be getting him on to give some of that perspective as well.

00:15:29.000 Speaking of that, there's been some big developments in Israel and Iran.

00:15:32.000 That's all coming up.

00:15:34.000 U.S.

00:15:34.000 national debt rises above $34 trillion, a historic first ever.

00:15:38.000 A bunch of big news about the FDA now admitting that, quote, COVID shots were contaminated.

00:15:43.000 Oh! 0.60

00:15:44.000 Well, that's why everybody's dying.

00:15:45.000 Yeah, right.

00:15:46.000 Contaminated what you put in there on purpose, all the secret ingredients.

00:15:49.000 They're not many were in there.

00:15:50.000 It's all coming up today.

00:15:52.000 Infowars.com forward slash show.

00:15:55.000 I'm going to come back, hit some border news and then right to the deep dive.

00:16:00.000 All right, we're doing the deep, sickening dive that's got to be done for the children and for all of us, because the deep state intelligence agencies are using these pedophile rings to control the population.

00:16:12.000 Hell, it even came out a few years ago, the CIA puts pedophiles in charge of Afghan towns.

00:16:17.000 And like somebody supplying Dracula with children, they supply little children to them because they find they're the most loyal.

00:16:23.000 They don't want money.

00:16:24.000 We'll do whatever they're told as long as they're supplied, little girls and little boys.

00:16:28.000 In fact, I always forget to print those articles.

00:16:30.000 Came out in mainstream news about three years ago.

00:16:32.000 Print me some of those.

00:16:33.000 I want to add that to the stack when we do the deep, sickening dive.

00:16:36.000 And understand, this deep, sickening dive will only be the surface.

00:16:41.000 It's worse than you can even imagine.

00:16:44.000 So, shifting gears, but it's all tied together, the Senate has heard from Mayorkas that, yeah, they've brought in this year alone, this was a month ago, 400, almost 500,000 children, hundreds of thousands handed over to random individuals and groups, sometimes they have fake identities, the people have fake identities, and they can't find 87,000 of them.

00:17:05.000 Just this year.

00:17:07.000 But one child gets kidnapped that's a citizen, black, white, Hispanic, it's all over the news and it should be. 0.99

00:17:14.000 But when it's the quarry, when it's the prey, when it's what the globalists are abusing and using for slave labor and sex slavery, you don't see the Amber Alerts. 0.86

00:17:23.000 You don't hear a damn thing about it, because the state at the top is running it.

00:17:26.000 Now the military and Border Patrol are criminally, along with the bureaucrats, facilitating this.

00:17:32.000 And look, this isn't about me being way ahead of everybody else.

00:17:35.000 It's about the fact that being censored, where you had to come to Infowars or my show on radio stations, To find the show that the system was censoring this information.

00:17:45.000 We were down at the border nine, ten years ago, six years ago, five years ago, four years ago, three years ago, two years ago, a year ago, this year.

00:17:53.000 We haven't been there this year yet because we're in 2024.

00:17:56.000 We're going soon.

00:17:58.000 And we would show the name of the NGOs, the same main NGO that ran the invasion of Europe the last decade, got the contract under Biden.

00:18:06.000 And there's a couple other big ones.

00:18:08.000 And you see 25, 30 year old College students or college grads who are in the NGO commanding the camps on the border.

00:18:19.000 And if you go down to the Darien Gap, they run the camps down there.

00:18:22.000 And there's UN signs, and we've shown them to you, and there's State Department signs, and they give them debit cards and money and brainwash them and give them leadership and then march them up in basically military formation to crash across the border and be springboarded, be launched, catapulted, cannoned, accelerated, Turbocharged, injected into the country.

00:18:45.000 So the border doesn't just exist, it's a magnet springboard.

00:18:49.000 It's a cyclotronic accelerator.

00:18:53.000 It's a flood system.

00:18:58.000 And so everybody's like, suddenly, all over the news, trending on X, oh my god, we caught liberal NGOs running everything at the border, and then they find some little camps, That are side camps for illegals that don't get to the right point.

00:19:15.000 So they get them together a few miles away and bring them to the right spot.

00:19:18.000 And they work with the coyotes.

00:19:20.000 And the media made jokes years ago before the public knew that coyote means smuggler.

00:19:24.000 That's what the Mexicans call it. 1.00

00:19:26.000 They go, Jones claims coyotes are out there helping humans cross. 0.99

00:19:30.000 He's a crazy right winger.

00:19:33.000 In hoping that listeners and viewers didn't know that meant smuggler. 0.54

00:19:37.000 So they're aiding and abetting them, they're helping them.

00:19:39.000 It's totally criminal.

00:19:41.000 And then they get in your face, when you're a reporter, and say you're being mean to them.

00:19:45.000 And we've got video of our own crew, but it's happened to Michael Young, everybody else.

00:19:50.000 Now National Guard walk over, they'll even aim guns at you.

00:19:53.000 They'll even bump you with trucks.

00:19:56.000 Because they want to get brownie points.

00:19:57.000 We promoted the new woke military.

00:19:59.000 You're not supposed to show Any of this, and the UN organizes them in all women groups, or all children groups, or all Chinese groups, or all Caribbean black groups, or all Venezuelan groups, or all Islamic groups out of the Middle East.

00:20:15.000 It'll be all military-age men, a thousand of them, or all women, a couple thousand of them, or all children with coyotes handing them over.

00:20:22.000 Smugglers.

00:20:23.000 And they wink and nod and laugh, everybody.

00:20:26.000 Pole Patrol takes them, has no idea where they went, here's a new child.

00:20:29.000 And then the Senate says, where are they?

00:20:31.000 America says, we don't know.

00:20:33.000 There's a new clip in the Orcas we've got blames the Republican governors.

00:20:43.000 That'd be like Hitler blaming Winston Churchill.

00:20:48.000 Here it is.

00:20:48.000 Watch Guerrilla Camps set up by Lepus Groups assist cartels in southern border invasion.

00:20:55.000 There's a bunch of videos.

00:20:57.000 They're on Infowars.com.

00:20:58.000 They're lengthy.

00:21:01.000 And it just goes on and on.

00:21:03.000 Shock video.

00:21:03.000 Illegal alien invaders line up to receive free taxpayer-funded housing in New York City.

00:21:09.000 Driver's license.

00:21:10.000 This is a Jamie White article on InfoWars.com.

00:21:13.000 Yeah, you want to see that video.

00:21:14.000 After we do the deep dive on the PETA government run rings, we're going to do this as well later in the broadcast.

00:21:20.000 Watch guerrilla camp set up by leftist groups assist cartels.

00:21:26.000 And look, whoa, leftists caught directly aiding invasion at southern border.

00:21:29.000 It's not like they've been caught.

00:21:32.000 We have hundreds of videos where they order the military and border patrol around.

00:21:37.000 They're the bosses.

00:21:40.000 We the bosses, we the bosses.

00:21:43.000 And then look, look at the little, I mean, I think it's fair to say, if you ask the political persuasion of that guy, go back to him.

00:21:52.000 Go back to the little leftist with his little mask and his nose hanging out.

00:21:55.000 You want to bet that guy supports Karl Marx?

00:21:58.000 I bet you everything I got that if you get that guy to be truthful, he's probably got a hammer and sickle flag hanging in his bedroom.

00:22:08.000 I mean, and look at the other guy.

00:22:10.000 I mean, that's what's running the show down there. 0.96

00:22:14.000 And when you go down there and you literally see rat-like communists and rat-like globalists scurrying around ordering the troops around and ordering the border patrol, I'm telling you, that's in command right there. 0.89

00:22:26.000 Now, what do you, I don't know this, I'm speculating, what do you think that guy's got in his closet? 0.90

00:22:32.000 Think he's got an antifoul fit?

00:22:35.000 Does a bear take a dump in the woods?

00:22:38.000 Put them back on screen.

00:22:41.000 Now, we're almost out of time in this segment.

00:22:42.000 I'm going to come back to the deep dive, but we're going to get more into this.

00:22:45.000 It's going to be covered in the War Room, I know, today.

00:22:46.000 3 p.m.

00:22:47.000 Central with Owen Schroer.

00:22:48.000 I know Harrison Smith was covering it, but a message to the crew.

00:22:52.000 Whoever wants to do it, go back to Jakari Jackson 12 years ago.

00:22:57.000 Go back to me at the border 12 years ago, but not long clips.

00:22:59.000 Just get short clips of the NGOs.

00:23:02.000 And them giving the free bus tickets and controlling everything.

00:23:05.000 And then fast forward to them handing babies over with no IDs, and the same woman saying, this is my baby, I swear.

00:23:10.000 And then an hour later she's back with another baby she's handing over.

00:23:13.000 And then just go right through me confronting NGOs at the gate where I'm screaming at them.

00:23:16.000 They come over and tell me, get out of there.

00:23:17.000 I tell them it's the First Amendment.

00:23:19.000 I want to just, because, you know, what's old is new.

00:23:22.000 This is all stuff from three, four, five years ago when we were blacked out everywhere and we couldn't show you this.

00:23:27.000 You had to come here to InfoWars only to get it.

00:23:29.000 Now we've got a real breach in the enemy wall, in their Berlin Wall of Censorship, edX, at Real Alex Jones.

00:23:35.000 But I want a five-minute boom, boom, boom, boom, boom compilation today.

00:23:42.000 I just did one for Crowder's Show, for jonescrowder.com, last week.

00:23:46.000 It's like two hours long.

00:23:48.000 All we've got to do is take that list of videos, It was like a historical data dump we did.

00:23:52.000 And just get the NGOs in charge.

00:23:55.000 Breaking video!

00:23:56.000 NGOs in control of Border Patrol military at US invasion of the US.

00:24:01.000 I mean, people are like, well, this audience is like, we don't know about that.

00:24:04.000 Well, I know, but the general public still doesn't.

00:24:06.000 So now we got to tell them.

00:24:07.000 They're ready now to hear it.

00:24:08.000 We're able to get to them.

00:24:10.000 So it's much worse than you think.

00:24:11.000 And we'll show the name of the UN NGO running it.

00:24:13.000 The same one that ran the Europe invasion. 0.88

00:24:16.000 Stay with us.

00:24:17.000 All right, Vivek Ramaswamy is going to be popping in with some information and intel here in a few minutes.

00:24:22.000 Then I will go through the deep dive on the globalist pedo rings and how they're using it for blackmail and control of our hijacked government.

00:24:29.000 If you just joined us, Epstein lists to remain sealed until at least January 22nd.

00:24:34.000 The judges now decided to seal it again.

00:24:37.000 Right here with an overhead shot, you can see a copy of the judge's order right here.

00:24:44.000 Where he says it basically it's at the behest of some of the plaintiffs.

00:24:49.000 Very predictable that that would be happening.

00:24:51.000 And you can see here in my deep dive stack that we'll be doing with Jason Burmas coming up.

00:24:57.000 Epstein bombshell.

00:24:58.000 Forget the client list.

00:24:59.000 The FBI is hiding thousands of videotapes, videos, DVDs, hard drives.

00:25:06.000 Used to blackmail Epstein's twisted clients.

00:25:10.000 Meanwhile, a whole bunch of Epstein supporters and John Podesta supporters and mainstream media, CNN, ABC News, you name it, that came out and said, there's no pedophilia going on. 0.68

00:25:22.000 Well, they've been arrested for raping toddlers and you name it. 0.52

00:25:27.000 I mean, it just goes on and on. 0.98

00:25:28.000 John Podesta's friend who debunked pizza get arrested for raping toddlers. 0.98

00:25:33.000 It just goes on and on.

00:25:34.000 So we've got quite a lot that we're going to be getting into and going over. 0.94

00:25:40.000 And the first thing I wanted to open up with is that this goes beyond raping children.

00:25:45.000 They want full control of our bodies with the UN treaty to take control with their poison shots. 0.96

00:25:51.000 And they want to turn us basically into creatures that have no rights.

00:25:56.000 And I remember decades ago learning about out of China and other countries when they would force abortion or even infanticide a baby if a woman hit a second child.

00:26:07.000 They would then take the baby and render it down and sell the collagen and the blood and the rest of it to be put into cosmetics and things.

00:26:15.000 And people hear that and think it's crazy.

00:26:18.000 But I have mainstream news from AP And other reports and Sandra Bullock bragging about using the products that we're going to be getting into coming up next hour.

00:26:30.000 So this is very important.

00:26:31.000 I know it sounds hard to believe, but the Epstein list, the client list, the flight logs let us know who was going there, but that's only One of many facilities he had from Paris to New York to Zorro Ranch in New Mexico that was a huge facility and it went way further.

00:26:49.000 It gets into Peter Nygaard areas.

00:26:51.000 Women bringing babies even to term, then exsanguinating them, sucking all their vital juices out and injecting it into these old men. 1.00

00:26:59.000 And Nygaard bragged about that on TV.

00:27:01.000 He's now been convicted and is in prison.

00:27:04.000 All this stuff that sounds like it's out of Bram Stoker's Dracula, but it's real world, is hidden.

00:27:08.000 But it's actually been in mainstream news.

00:27:10.000 So we have the deep dive next hour.

00:27:13.000 It's a red herring, the little black book.

00:27:15.000 It doesn't exist.

00:27:16.000 He had dozens of these black books.

00:27:18.000 But he wants the hard drives.

00:27:20.000 And going all the way back to VHS over three decades.

00:27:23.000 He was working for Mossad, MI6, the CIA.

00:27:26.000 Mossad heads were caught there.

00:27:28.000 All of it.

00:27:29.000 All right.

00:27:30.000 Joining us now is Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:27:33.000 Super smart.

00:27:34.000 Love his analysis.

00:27:35.000 He's doing irrevocable damage to the globalists that have hijacked this country.

00:27:41.000 And we love having him pop in with updates and news and analysis.

00:27:45.000 He's got updates on ballot removals of Trump and how he's countering that.

00:27:49.000 Also, the U.S.

00:27:49.000 Department of Justice says they will sue Texas for enforcing border laws.

00:27:53.000 He has a response to that.

00:27:54.000 Also, Vivek's plan to shut down agencies similar to Argentina's Mille.

00:27:59.000 Also, Deep State won't let Trump win.

00:28:01.000 How we counter that?

00:28:02.000 Representative Steve King endorsement.

00:28:04.000 And we have another Republican congressman now who has also announced he's resigning today.

00:28:13.000 So that brings this really, really close.

00:28:17.000 The Republicans losing the House.

00:28:20.000 So we're going to get Vivek's take on that.

00:28:24.000 Breaking GOP representative Bill Johnson resigns from Congress, leaving Republicans with a razor-thin majority.

00:28:30.000 He goes to run a major university.

00:28:32.000 Now, I'm not saying the congressman did this, but this is getting a little suspicious.

00:28:36.000 A whole bunch of Republicans are resigning to go get huge corporate or educational or governmental jobs elsewhere and it's very very suspect. We

00:28:46.000 don't see a bunch of Democrats leaving. So this stinks of more of their

00:28:52.000 attempt to do the Supreme Court attacking it all of it's very

00:28:55.000 dangerous.

00:28:55.000 Vivek Ramaswamy, again the only other good Republican in the race. Thank you so

00:29:01.000 much for joining us. It's good to see you Alex. All right my friend we love it when you

00:29:06.000 pop in you're very gracious good to have you back with us for 24. Where would you

00:29:09.000 like to begin? I mean I was actually just came straight off of getting

00:29:13.000 Steve King's endorsement and getting excoriated by the media for it.

00:29:17.000 And it just shows how corrupt a lot of the media is, and frankly, a lot of the Republican establishment, too.

00:29:22.000 You know Steve King, right?

00:29:23.000 Yes.

00:29:25.000 Yeah.

00:29:25.000 He's a true patriot.

00:29:26.000 And I think people ought to remember, when we think about all that Donald Trump did for this country starting in 2016, America First didn't start in 2016.

00:29:35.000 I mean, it got started in 1776, really, with George Washington, but even the modern version of it, it was the Pat Buchanans and the Steve Kings of the world.

00:29:43.000 I mean, folks like yourself, too, Alex, that paved that groundwork.

00:29:46.000 But in politics, Steve King was talking about building the wall before it was cool.

00:29:51.000 In fact, he was dismissed as a racist for saying that we needed to build a wall with spikes on top of it.

00:29:57.000 I think that actually would have been sensible policy.

00:29:59.000 And they call him disgraced, all because he said we deserve to have a border.

00:30:05.000 That's exactly right, because we deserve to have a border.

00:30:07.000 He also favors other policies that I like, making English the national language of the United States, and otherwise they denounce him as a white supremacist because he talks about Western civilization.

00:30:17.000 Well, you know what?

00:30:17.000 Actually, I've only gotten to know Steve King in the last couple of months, and I assumed he was going to support Donald Trump in this race, but he rode around Iowa on the bus with me.

00:30:26.000 We ended up spending a lot of time together.

00:30:28.000 I think what we realize is we have actually a lot of common cause on issues that nobody in this Republican primary other than myself, like literally nobody else, was taken up opposing eminent domain for the use of seizing farmland in Iowa based on a climate change cult that's based on a global climate change agenda that I will say it is absolutely a hoax.

00:30:47.000 And, you know, we go straight down the list.

00:30:49.000 I believe in certain nationalist ideas, positive nationalist ideas, like, I mean, I don't think nationalist needs to be a bad word.

00:30:55.000 English as the national language, I think, is a good thing.

00:30:57.000 Having a national identity is a good thing.

00:31:00.000 That I'd pardon the peaceful protesters from January 6th on day one.

00:31:03.000 But anyway, as we went through it more and more, we realized I think we had more common cause than maybe the media or anybody else would have expected.

00:31:10.000 And so I thought Steve was going to go in the direction of Trump this time again, but he surprised me and I was gratified that he came over and made a full-throated endorsement of me in this race.

00:31:22.000 And I think this comes amidst a moment in this race, Alex, where I worry that a lot of the Republican primary voter base, because the mainstream media is pushing a false narrative, is about to fall into a major trap.

00:31:35.000 And it's one that you've been calling out for a long time.

00:31:37.000 I think you have been way ahead of the curve on this.

00:31:39.000 I came around to this in the last couple of months as it became more obvious to me.

00:31:44.000 I think this system I hate to say this, because it's wrong and it's immoral, but this system is not going to allow Donald Trump to get anywhere near that White House.

00:31:56.000 If you think they're going to just let Donald Trump get back to the White House again, Open your eyes.

00:32:01.000 And I think that if I've seen what's happening in the last couple of months, the twist in this that I think really threw a wrench in this for me was I knew they were not going to allow a Trump versus Biden election.

00:32:11.000 There was something else going on here.

00:32:13.000 Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama, which puppet were they going to prop up?

00:32:17.000 But then you actually follow the facts.

00:32:18.000 You open your eyes for the last several months.

00:32:20.000 Who are the people that are supporting the lawsuits to keep Donald Trump off the ballot?

00:32:24.000 Who are they supporting?

00:32:25.000 Who's Larry Fink supporting?

00:32:26.000 It's not Gavin Newsom.

00:32:28.000 It's not even Joe Biden.

00:32:30.000 It's actually within our own party.

00:32:32.000 It's Nikki Haley in this race.

00:32:33.000 And so what they want to do is to narrow this down to be a two-horse race between Trump and Haley.

00:32:39.000 That's the plan, at least.

00:32:40.000 That's right.

00:32:41.000 Birdbrain.

00:32:42.000 And you've been targeting her astutely from the beginning.

00:32:45.000 She is very dangerous. 0.97

00:32:47.000 And I understood this since the very beginning, but I didn't understand that it was looking exactly like they've set it up.

00:32:52.000 They want it to be a two-horse race, eliminate Trump from contention one way or another, and then waltz into Dick Cheney 2.0.

00:33:00.000 And it allows the Larry Finks and the others of the world to claim, hey, we're not propping up Democrats.

00:33:04.000 See, we're even.

00:33:04.000 We also prop up Republicans.

00:33:06.000 And so it's the perfect foil.

00:33:09.000 And so for many people in this, in our movement, I got to say, do not fall for that trick.

00:33:15.000 We love and respect the hell out of Donald Trump because he got this fight started.

00:33:19.000 But it's our job to finish it.

00:33:21.000 And we cannot fall for the trap they've laid for us.

00:33:24.000 Vivek, let's unpack this.

00:33:25.000 We need to war game this.

00:33:27.000 And when I call you the spare tire, because I agree with your policies that you're a great guy, I think you'd make a great president.

00:33:33.000 Tires blow out, and then Trump, they could poison him.

00:33:36.000 He could die of natural causes, God forbid. 0.99

00:33:38.000 They could assassinate him.

00:33:39.000 And you see, as Tucker Carlson's pointed out, as I've pointed out, The trajectory of them ramping up, not caring about the law, not caring what we think, saying it was going to be a civil war.

00:33:49.000 You're a smart guy.

00:33:50.000 War game that.

00:33:51.000 How do you see them not letting him become either the nominee or the president?

00:33:56.000 Because I agree, the Democrats said three plus years ago, four years ago, they said we're not going to let him be the president one way or another.

00:34:04.000 We'll use the military to take him out.

00:34:06.000 Nancy Pelosi said that. 0.89

00:34:07.000 They were the ones talking about coups and go out and attack Trump supporters and burn down cities and all the rest of it.

00:34:13.000 So you're right.

00:34:13.000 The sky's the limit.

00:34:15.000 So what will the deep state do?

00:34:18.000 So I'm not God, and I, you know, am not going to only one person knows the future and only one one entity knows the future, and that's God.

00:34:25.000 But I can tell you, I'm not.

00:34:27.000 People say this conspiracy theorizing.

00:34:29.000 I start with facts, Alex.

00:34:31.000 Let's just look at the facts of the last 12 months.

00:34:33.000 A system that begins with vocal protesting, that then goes to civil lawsuits, that then ratchets that up to state-level prosecutions, that then ratchets that up to a federal prosecution, and then another federal prosecution, then abandoning the judicial system altogether and doing this extra-judicially through an arbitrary person, a state from Maine or otherwise, to take Donald Trump off the ballot without any judicial procedure.

00:34:57.000 That was just 2023.

00:34:59.000 What do you think is going to happen in 2024?

00:35:03.000 I think they've made clear that this system will stop at nothing.

00:35:07.000 And I think they're waiting for it to be a two-horse race between Trump and Haley.

00:35:11.000 For the people who have propped up the Democrats for a long time, the Democrats' brand is slightly tarnished.

00:35:15.000 And they have a problem, because if they take Biden out of contention, they have a Kamala Harris problem.

00:35:19.000 So avoid dealing with that altogether, and just find a Trojan horse that actually is far more effective than Biden at implementing the pro-war globalist agenda.

00:35:27.000 But also even more extreme than Biden at the surveillance state here at home.

00:35:30.000 Say on social media accounts, tied to your government issued ID.

00:35:33.000 Great!

00:35:34.000 Even Biden wouldn't have gone that far.

00:35:36.000 That's Dick Cheney post 9-11 world on steroids.

00:35:39.000 And that's why BlackRock, that's why she's Nikki BlackRock Haley, because they've got to have that for the central bank digital currencies, social credit score, the carbon tax.

00:35:47.000 When they get that of internet ID, they can get everything.

00:35:51.000 And then tie that to a central bank digital currency, it's the ballgame in this country, that's the whole ballgame.

00:35:56.000 And so, that's where I think that they have so far, I think, managed to dupe much of the Republican Party on this, much of the Republican Party's base, good for the Republican Party, much of our base, I would say our America First movement, forget even the word Republican.

00:36:10.000 Our own America First movement, I don't want to see us fall for this.

00:36:13.000 And I think there's a couple of different ways they could do it, right?

00:36:15.000 I mean, one is hear this talk about Nikki Haley as VP.

00:36:19.000 Maybe, maybe they dupe Donald Trump into that, right?

00:36:21.000 And you can, I mean, it's, it becomes pretty obvious what happens after that.

00:36:26.000 But put that to one side, then there's the other path where you make it a two horse race, you eliminate Donald Trump from contention a different other way.

00:36:32.000 Either way, that's the end of America First right there.

00:36:35.000 And I'm clear on this, Alex.

00:36:36.000 We have a duty to this country.

00:36:38.000 It's not to any one man, not to me, not to you, not to Trump.

00:36:40.000 It's a duty to this country.

00:36:42.000 America first cannot end with Donald Trump.

00:36:45.000 This has to go for the next 250 years.

00:36:46.000 That's our obligation to our founding fathers.

00:36:48.000 We owe it to George Washington.

00:36:50.000 We owe it to 17th Well, I do agree with this.

00:36:54.000 If we make the Make America Great Again, America First, New Renaissance, America 2.0, America Reboot, about Trump only, he'll get old, he'll die, he's 70, you know, 7, 78 years old.

00:37:07.000 No, he rode in on that wave, and I love him and he's great, and I think the Supreme Court's going to override a lot of this, but then I think you're right. 0.91

00:37:14.000 There's a very good chance, and I hope this doesn't happen, they're going to kill him. 0.86

00:37:19.000 God forbid. 0.82

00:37:20.000 What are you saying here?

00:37:20.000 If that does happen, be ready with you fired up and defeating Haley, because you're smart to go after her to position yourself if something happens to Trump.

00:37:28.000 But I'll be honest with you, I don't think with this argument, that I think it's a real argument, I don't think that argument's going to gain enough traction for you to be catapulted. 0.93

00:37:37.000 And I'll be quite frank, if they're willing to kill Trump, they're willing to kill you.

00:37:40.000 So, I mean, is it more like you're saying we're going to have a two-man kamikaze mission? 0.97

00:37:46.000 I don't need to be doing this, is the point.

00:37:48.000 Forget about me, okay?

00:37:49.000 Forget about any individual.

00:37:51.000 We've lived a good life and the easy thing for me to do would be to go, you know, buy a vacation house instead of an apartment in Des Moines.

00:37:58.000 Sure, so what do we do about it?

00:37:59.000 What do we do about it?

00:38:00.000 But I think we have an obligation.

00:38:01.000 So many people will ask me why I support so many of Trump's policies.

00:38:05.000 I respect the heck out of Trump.

00:38:06.000 We respect each other.

00:38:07.000 Why am I running in the race that Trump is running?

00:38:10.000 Why don't you just endorse Trump?

00:38:13.000 I get questions like this.

00:38:15.000 Open your eyes, people, because that's actually the plot that they've laid out.

00:38:19.000 Whatever we can do to make sure that the alternative exists to take our America First movement to the next level, that's what we owe it to the country to do.

00:38:25.000 So for my part, I will stay in this till the very end.

00:38:28.000 I think that this is not the way I want to see it play out.

00:38:31.000 I've done more than any other candidate in this Republican primary standing against this.

00:38:34.000 I think what you're saying is you need to be Trump's main challenger, not Haley, and I 100% agree with that, because it's almost like if you were his vice president, that would mean they'd never kill Trump because they're just as scared of you or more.

00:38:45.000 So what you're saying is you're like almost Trump's shadow candidate or his VP already, even if he doesn't pick you as the VP.

00:38:52.000 I think what you're saying is you need to be fired up and so strong as a close second that then they won't know what to do because then they got two targets.

00:39:01.000 It's about our country, right?

00:39:02.000 And I think that then it becomes very difficult for them to play the scramble in the way that they are trying to right now.

00:39:09.000 Listen, I know I'm interrupting Vivek, but on this I just want to say, that's why I've been supporting you is I've been quite honest with you about that, is I agree with what you're saying.

00:39:17.000 So talk to me like I'm five years old.

00:39:19.000 You've led us there.

00:39:20.000 I agree with you.

00:39:21.000 How do we make that happen?

00:39:23.000 So look, I think that each of us has to do our part.

00:39:25.000 First of all, the first step to solving a problem is naming it.

00:39:30.000 And you know that well, Alex.

00:39:31.000 You do it often.

00:39:32.000 I'm doing it right now.

00:39:34.000 First step to solving the problem is naming it.

00:39:35.000 Sunlight, at least.

00:39:36.000 Once you see it with clear eyes, then it becomes a lot harder to dupe you.

00:39:40.000 They're trying to sell you the rope that they're going to use to hang you tomorrow.

00:39:43.000 Don't buy the rope.

00:39:44.000 That's the first thing.

00:39:45.000 The second thing is, let's open our eyes to say, America first.

00:39:48.000 This is our movement about the next 250 years.

00:39:50.000 How do we protect against that outcome?

00:39:53.000 If this ends up being me versus Donald Trump left in the primary, that's a win-win for the country.

00:39:57.000 And I'll make the case for myself and the next generation, Donald Trump brings experience, whatever it is, that's a win-win for the country.

00:40:03.000 But that's what we need to be focused on rather than, I think, go in the direction that you're playing one-dimensional chess.

00:40:09.000 You would say, oh, well, let's, you know, people like me rally behind Donald Trump.

00:40:14.000 Do not play the one-dimensional checkers.

00:40:16.000 The other side is playing 3D chess or more.

00:40:18.000 We have to actually skate to where their puck is going and beat them in getting there. 0.57

00:40:24.000 And so my view is that this primary field is going to thin down.

00:40:27.000 It's good.

00:40:27.000 They're trying to make it Mickey versus Trump.

00:40:29.000 See through that.

00:40:31.000 I'm staying in this to the end.

00:40:32.000 I think that that's something that allows me to at least do my part for this country.

00:40:36.000 I think that there's a lot of ways this could play out over the course of the next year.

00:40:39.000 Now, my view is that the Iowa caucus You can say this is self-interested or whatever, but Steve King, I mean, he's America's first patriot long before either Trump or myself.

00:40:48.000 I think that those who ensure that I am strong in this race through the end, I'm asking for people's vote on January 15th in Iowa.

00:40:56.000 That's something that allows us to make sure that our movement is protected.

00:41:00.000 The America First movement is bigger than one man.

00:41:02.000 I think that once we remember that, and it's our obligation to this country, that's what we need to protect.

00:41:09.000 And a certain thing, Alex, I think that just to get philosophical for a second, what does America First mean, right?

00:41:14.000 We use this word, what does it mean?

00:41:15.000 I think it means the people who we elect to run the government are the ones who actually run the government.

00:41:22.000 And they should be the ones who actually run the government.

00:41:25.000 Well, it's not what the case is today.

00:41:26.000 The Deep State runs the show.

00:41:28.000 And the second thing is, the people who we elect, they owe an obligation to the citizens of this country, not another one.

00:41:35.000 And I think at a certain point, these movements, they tend to be led by the next generation.

00:41:40.000 There's a reason why I'm the only candidate in this race, not Trump, DeSantis or anybody else.

00:41:45.000 And I respect the hell out of Trump.

00:41:47.000 But if we're talking about taking this to the next level, we've got to talk about not just replacing Christopher Wray.

00:41:53.000 We need to shut down the FBI.

00:41:54.000 And I've offered a clear plan and a commitment to actually do it.

00:41:57.000 We can't just incrementally reform the deep state.

00:42:00.000 Fire 75 percent of them right out of the gate.

00:42:02.000 NASS firings, you've got to actually Effectively level the apparatus.

00:42:07.000 You gotta start on day one.

00:42:08.000 Day one pardons.

00:42:09.000 I'll pardon Trump on day one.

00:42:10.000 I'll pardon every peaceful J6 protester on day one. 1.00

00:42:13.000 I'll pardon Julian Assange, to Douglas Mackey, to Owen Schroer, to anybody else who was the victim of a politically motivated persecution through prosecution.

00:42:21.000 Get that done on day one.

00:42:23.000 Ronald McDaniel needs to step aside as this stooge running the RNC.

00:42:28.000 Go list by list.

00:42:29.000 The vaccine manufacturers have this special liability shield that protects them from being sued.

00:42:35.000 When every other manufacturer, if they sold you something that harms you, you could sue them.

00:42:38.000 You can't do that to a vaccine manufacturer, and that protects those who actually made the COVID vaccine.

00:42:43.000 Well, that's not justice.

00:42:44.000 That's crony capitalism.

00:42:45.000 But the thing I'm saying, Alex, is what's interesting is at this moment right now, in this presidential race, Why am I the only candidate who can say any of those things?

00:42:54.000 From shutting down the FBI, to stripping the vaccine manufacturers of their special liability exemptions, to getting Ronald McDaniel out of the RNC chair seat, to telling the climate change agenda is a hoax, that the carbon capture pipeline in Iowa is unconscionable.

00:43:07.000 Let me throw something in here.

00:43:08.000 I'll tell you why.

00:43:10.000 Go ahead, tell us why.

00:43:11.000 I'll tell you why.

00:43:12.000 I think that, A, every other candidate, save for Trump and myself, is bought and paid for by the system.

00:43:17.000 And between Trump and myself, I think that one of the things that they are trying to do, I think, and they did in some ways, is dupe Donald Trump to say that you get the Lindsey Grahams or the Nikki Haley's in there.

00:43:26.000 None of those people are going to come within spitting distance of my administration if I'm in charge.

00:43:31.000 And so all I'm asking people to do is open their eyes, think independently, and make the right decision for this country.

00:43:37.000 And at the very least, do not fall into the trap that they've laid.

00:43:41.000 Vivek, let me just say this.

00:43:43.000 That's why I have you on.

00:43:44.000 You're really a great guest.

00:43:46.000 You're really smart.

00:43:47.000 You know your stuff.

00:43:47.000 I know if somebody's informed.

00:43:49.000 And most of these other people really don't have any depth.

00:43:51.000 And if they do, it's not to be corrupted.

00:43:54.000 I totally agree with you.

00:43:55.000 We need to have two patriots who are getting all the attention.

00:43:59.000 Not a Haley versus Trump thing.

00:44:01.000 A neocon versus Trump.

00:44:03.000 And we need We need, if Trump really plays 3D chess, 4D chess, we need him to basically challenge you more, to elevate you even more.

00:44:15.000 I know you're already doing a great job in grassroots.

00:44:18.000 You're working harder than anybody I've seen other than Trump, and probably harder because you're younger.

00:44:24.000 So I definitely get what you're saying.

00:44:26.000 And what would you think about being a VP for Trump if he ends up, you know, getting the nomination, they don't kill him, we're able to push back the deep state, would you be Trump's VP?

00:44:36.000 I'm going to do whatever's right for this country, Alex.

00:44:39.000 I'm in this as a patriot for the country.

00:44:40.000 I don't need a special title.

00:44:41.000 I don't need anything.

00:44:42.000 And I don't need the title of president.

00:44:44.000 I'm in this though because, and I'm biased on this, but I'll tell you what I believe.

00:44:48.000 I think these revivals, they tend to be led by the next generation for a reason.

00:44:53.000 I think I'm going to be able to best lead this country from the front as the next president Because I bring fresh legs.

00:45:00.000 I think we are in the middle of a kind of war in this country.

00:45:02.000 When you think about wargaming this, as you said, if you want to win a war, pick the general who isn't yet wounded in that war.

00:45:09.000 They're going to come for me, just as they have for Trump, and I bear no illusions about that.

00:45:13.000 But I'm not yet wounded in that war.

00:45:15.000 I have fresh legs.

00:45:16.000 I also understand the law and the Constitution deeply.

00:45:20.000 And so I think I'm going to be best positioned to actually lead this country and lead our movement forward from the front.

00:45:25.000 And I'll take Donald Trump as my advisor and most important advisor and mentor.

00:45:29.000 I've said that before and I stand by it.

00:45:31.000 I want to know where the bodies are buried.

00:45:33.000 I want to know actually what went wrong to build on where he left off.

00:45:36.000 Well, Vivek, let me say this.

00:45:37.000 I think that would be the right way to do this.

00:45:39.000 I want Trump to be president.

00:45:40.000 You're doing an incredibly great job educating people, and you're doing yeoman's work, but I pray you don't climb over his dead body to be president.

00:45:50.000 I pray the same for that, Alex.

00:45:52.000 That's not what we want, but if you name the problem A, and B, I'm actually in this race and it becomes a two-horse race between me and Trump, I think that's the best way to prevent that from happening.

00:46:02.000 I hear you.

00:46:02.000 Join us again soon.

00:46:03.000 We're out of time.

00:46:04.000 I wanted to get into ballot access.

00:46:06.000 I wanted to get into the border.

00:46:07.000 I wanted to get into it all, but we're about to go to break and start the next hour.

00:46:10.000 And it's great having you in the studio, not on the bus, because the quality sometimes is not the best, but the information is amazing.

00:46:17.000 But we've got to be honest, though.

00:46:19.000 Tucker said to Trump, he said, look, I'm looking at this. 0.99

00:46:21.000 They're going to kill you. 0.76

00:46:22.000 And Trump didn't really respond to that. 0.97

00:46:24.000 He's so confident.

00:46:25.000 But let's not lie.

00:46:26.000 I mean, he is going up against pure evil.

00:46:28.000 So are you.

00:46:29.000 We should pray for you.

00:46:29.000 And it says a lot about you.

00:46:30.000 They've been coming after you for six months and they can't dig any dirt up.

00:46:33.000 That's a really positive thing.

00:46:35.000 That shows a lot of vetting on your part that you are clean or it would be all over the news.

00:46:40.000 Vivek, thank you so much for spending time with us.

00:46:42.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:46:43.000 I appreciate it, man.

00:46:44.000 Thank you.

00:46:45.000 It's a really sad thing we have to talk about this, but it's reality.

00:46:48.000 All right.

00:46:49.000 We're going to go to break.

00:46:50.000 We're going to come back.

00:46:51.000 We're going to do the deep dive on Jeffrey Epstein.

00:46:53.000 This just broke.

00:46:54.000 Jeffrey Epstein court document names unsealed today.

00:46:58.000 So now the judge put an order out this morning saying he wouldn't release to the 22nd of

00:47:02.000 this month.

00:47:03.000 Now they're saying they are.

00:47:04.000 I don't know what's going to happen.

00:47:07.000 We're going to be watching it as it unfolds.

00:47:09.000 But the FBI has all these hard drives, all these videotapes, all these DVDs, box after

00:47:14.000 box after box, closet after closet, shelf after shelf.

00:47:21.000 And that's the big cover up.

00:47:22.000 We're doing the deep dive next hour.

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00:50:00.000 Alright, Jason Burmess joins us in the next segment.

00:50:03.000 We'll go about 10-15 minutes to the next hour, then our next guest will join us, but I want more than an hour, because we've got, you know, 10 minutes of ads or so.

00:50:10.000 I want more than an hour with Jason, so we'll go a little bit to the next hour, because I've got a lot to cover, he's got a lot to cover.

00:50:17.000 Chase has done a great job co-editing this over the years.

00:50:19.000 He's made films about it that we produced with him, other films he's made, and he's really done a great job because I had him on yesterday and he was doing the fourth hour and I was just realizing, I forgot this, I forgot that.

00:50:32.000 Wow, because we've covered so much, it's like...

00:50:34.000 It's crazy because I've been covering the pedophile rings, the Mossad, CIA, MI6 operations, and King Charles and Jimmy Savelle for 29 years on air because I cut my teeth at the foot of Ted Gunderson and General Parton and all these experts, former FBI agents, former top generals that explained to me how they were controlling people.

00:50:55.000 And so I have forgotten more than most people ever know about this, but Jason's done a really good job at getting it all together with the documents.

00:51:02.000 That's coming up.

00:51:04.000 In about five minutes when we come back from this one little short 60-second break.

00:51:09.000 But right now, I want everybody to listen to me very, very carefully because just like our information is game-changing, this is incredibly game-changing information.

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00:54:34.000 I can see for miles and miles.

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00:54:44.000 And I can see the New World Order very clearly. 0.77

00:54:48.000 They think they operate in the dark?

00:54:50.000 I've got night vision from research and the Holy Spirit.

00:54:58.000 And they can't win if we know their operations.

00:55:02.000 All right, joining us is Jason Bermas.

00:55:04.000 I want him to start over for the next 15-20 minutes to break.

00:55:07.000 I'm going to try to give him the floor.

00:55:08.000 I want him to run through everything condensed he hit yesterday.

00:55:12.000 How the list is a red herring.

00:55:14.000 How the flight logs are red herring.

00:55:17.000 What was really going on at Zorro Ranch in Paris, the breeding programs, the cloning, the secretly having babies, the sanguinating them, that's a medical term for sucking all their juices out, and having them injected into old men.

00:55:29.000 I mean we're talking about they suck the baby completely dry put gallons of this stuff into them over a few weeks

00:55:35.000 This is even nigar. Don't is a brag about this. Okay, and I told you this over a decade ago 1.00

00:55:40.000 I got all this stuff from Ted Gunderson and General Parton and former top generals former high-level FBI

00:55:46.000 They wanted to Gunnarsen to be the FBI director. That's a high level

00:55:49.000 He was give me how far the FBI is falling apart. And so I'm hearing all this. They don't just rape babies

00:55:54.000 They don't just have auctions of them. They don't just smuggle kids out of Latin America 0.99

00:55:59.000 But they actually murder them and the finders case and just all of this

00:56:03.000 And then after Burma's talks, we'll go somewhere in the next hour, there's another guest joining us.

00:56:07.000 I'm a little running behind, so the next guest is on the last 45 in the next hour. 0.94

00:56:11.000 I want to get into stuff worse than just raping them. 0.96

00:56:14.000 And then it's, I've got AP articles and mainstream news admitting they're killing babies and then turning them into cosmetics. 0.99

00:56:22.000 I'm going to show you AP videos.

00:56:24.000 I'm going to show you CBS News.

00:56:26.000 I'm going to show you Sandra Bullock laughing about it.

00:56:30.000 Okay? 0.99

00:56:31.000 So if you can't handle them raping children, it's way worse. 0.95

00:56:34.000 I mean, 400, almost 500,000 kids since Biden stole the election got in here and they don't know where almost 90,000 are in the Senate report. 0.79

00:56:43.000 Mayorca submits it.

00:56:45.000 They should all be in jail now. 0.99

00:56:46.000 And yes, it's sex slavery. 1.00

00:56:49.000 Not just slave labor.

00:56:51.000 So if you think any of us as citizens are safe, well this is going on.

00:56:55.000 All the militaries down there with the Border Patrol run by NGOs, that's the UN facilitating it.

00:57:00.000 Woo! 0.99

00:57:01.000 So Jason, you're going to be, you got your own computer system, you're going to be putting documents on, we'll be putting them up as well.

00:57:09.000 Start with what you were saying yesterday in the fourth hour.

00:57:11.000 I put it on X, got about a million and a half views just on our channel, a couple million more other places.

00:57:16.000 It's exploded.

00:57:17.000 A lot of folks are tuning right now.

00:57:19.000 So give people the real deep dive until we go to break in 19 minutes, and then I'm going to come back and get into the areas I want and give us, you know, the million foot view of the whole nasty thing and tie it all together and explain that this is how they control things.

00:57:35.000 The currency is children.

00:57:37.000 And now with the biomedical tyranny and the UN treaty, they don't just want our children, they want all of our bodies. 0.90

00:57:42.000 It's about rape. 0.99

00:57:44.000 It's about owning us.

00:57:45.000 It's about that power.

00:57:47.000 All right.

00:57:48.000 Jason Burmish.

00:57:50.000 Alex, you know I was going to begin with the Epstein saga all the way back to what we now know is at least publicly the first report to the NYPD and the FBI all the way back in 1996.

00:58:05.000 But you said something key.

00:58:06.000 You talked about the quote-unquote finders group and this was a group That had not only connections to the Central Intelligence Agency in the 80s, but the initial incident which if anybody looks at the local police reports that you can find on the FBI's own website, handwritten by the way, is so disturbing and egregious you have to wonder what was going on.

00:58:33.000 These children who were extremely dirty were playing in a park and the adults that with them didn't seem to be their parents.

00:58:41.000 When a law enforcement investigated, these people were connected to the internet before the internet.

00:58:50.000 So they had all of this high-tech gear, the kids were clearly abused, and I'm not going to even get into how grotesquely once they had medical examinations, but we're talking about young children being anally abused, I'm gonna leave it at that, and really this whole thing was covered up but it led into what was essentially an underage blackmail ring inside of DC and we actually put a portion of it in the film Invisible Empire A New World Order to find

00:59:29.000 Which you produced and what was so scary and egregious in that case is you had somebody who was sitting in Congress Barney Frank he was not out as a homosexual at the time but he had hired basically this young madam this male madam And this guy was running a brothel not only out of Barney Frank's apartment, which they had ethics hearings on.

00:59:55.000 Anybody can watch those on C-SPAN.

00:59:58.000 But it actually went to the local Chevy Chase Middle School and involved the vice principal.

01:00:05.000 This was all the way back in the 80s.

01:00:09.000 Now fast forward to again that first report.

01:00:12.000 On Epstein in 1996.

01:00:16.000 Now let me just stop you. 0.83

01:00:16.000 I'm gonna give you the floor in a moment, but since you got into Finders, they even raided this big warehouse that had all these satellite uplinks, all this high-tech equipment, where they were shooting child porn. 0.83

01:00:27.000 This all came out and again the FBI confiscated it all, shut it down because it was CIA, just like they did with Epstein.

01:00:34.000 And so now let's do the Epstein Deep Dive and then go through how this is a red herring.

01:00:39.000 It's the FBI having the VHS, the DVDs, and the hard drives showing decades of this.

01:00:44.000 Closet after closet full of obviously thousands of videos.

01:00:48.000 You know, just hundreds and hundreds of videotapes, DVDs.

01:00:51.000 This is insane.

01:00:52.000 Globalists going there and being blackmailed on purpose as part of some trust club. 0.98

01:00:57.000 Just like in Mafia, you'll kill people so they have control of you, they have dirt.

01:01:01.000 This is far beyond that.

01:01:03.000 And just briefly first, Now they're saying the judge is going to release it today after the judge put an order out saying he'll release it January 22nd.

01:01:10.000 What do you think's going on there?

01:01:12.000 We know there's a lot of blackmail behind the scenes and then let's do the dive on Epstein and then accelerate through all this.

01:01:19.000 Absolutely.

01:01:20.000 So where do I think this is going to go?

01:01:22.000 I'm not quite sure.

01:01:23.000 I thought the date was definitely going to be January 21st or 22nd after I saw this stay.

01:01:30.000 This is Jane Doe 107 and really you're going to get a multitude of victims whose names have been blacked out.

01:01:38.000 You talked about the tapes, and this is why 1996 and Maria Farmer are so important.

01:01:45.000 I interviewed Maria years ago before her lawyers cut her off from individual interviews, but she stated back in the 90s Epstein literally brought her into a room.

01:01:57.000 That was a manned room.

01:01:59.000 In other words, there were not only monitors watching everything and taping everything, but somebody was sitting there watching them.

01:02:06.000 Maybe for the golden nuggets to edit out later.

01:02:09.000 That's purely speculation, but the house, which was Les Wexner's former mansion, That I believe he gave to Epstein for $10.

01:02:19.000 It was either a buck or ten.

01:02:20.000 It's something absolutely ludicrous.

01:02:21.000 This is a multi-million dollar mansion in the middle of Manhattan, and it was rigged up with cameras, according to her.

01:02:27.000 Now what gives even more credence to her story, again that nothing was done in the 90s,

01:02:32.000 is that her sister, Annie Farmer, is one of the women that recently won 0.98

01:02:38.000 one of the many legal cases against the Epstein estate.

01:02:43.000 And you're seeing big banks like J.P. Morgan and others bend the knee and pay out tens if not hundreds

01:02:52.000 of millions of dollars.

01:02:53.000 What does that tell you?

01:02:55.000 Now what you're looking at here are Maxster hard drives, and I'm a tech guy.

01:03:01.000 You know, those are old school IDE hard drives that you would see in either specialized system

01:03:07.000 or old school DVR recordings.

01:03:10.000 Now, I would imagine that that isn't just them taking each individual hard drive out

01:03:17.000 of whatever day and archiving them.

01:03:19.000 Although, since we're seeing boxes of them, that might actually be the case.

01:03:24.000 In other words, you can run it for so long and they'll ask you to erase.

01:03:28.000 Instead of erasing, they may have replaced the drives outright.

01:03:31.000 Or, those could be the select cuts.

01:03:33.000 We don't really know, but we do know that they were entered into evidence and nobody, I mean nobody, Would have those stacks of hard drives unless there was important information on them.

01:03:44.000 Now, what you're looking at, you can see right there, one of them actually says AV Shoot, whatever that means.

01:03:50.000 Those are burned DVDs that are also dated.

01:03:54.000 Now, if you are burning DVDs, this is going to go beyond PowerPoints or financial information.

01:04:02.000 No, you can see labeled photos and video shoots.

01:04:07.000 We've never seen what is on this material.

01:04:11.000 And then on top of that, when we talk about photographic evidence, because again, videos were not as prevalent, say, in the 80s, when Epstein could have well been running this operation.

01:04:23.000 Well, they have the photograph books.

01:04:24.000 They have the literal binders.

01:04:27.000 That they're not even letting you see what they're labeled as.

01:04:30.000 You know, give them credit.

01:04:31.000 We just saw those burned DVDs.

01:04:32.000 At least we were able to see the labels on those.

01:04:35.000 The binders, each of which looks about the size of a phone book, they don't even want to see you, have you see what it was labeled by Epstein.

01:04:45.000 And again, that's just one of the residences.

01:04:46.000 So absolutely, and there those binders are, this idea of a list is a red herring.

01:04:53.000 In fact, I'd like to go over really quickly several individuals that have already been named as close associates and not been prosecuted by Epstein.

01:05:05.000 Here we have Sarah Kalin who was criminally responsible in Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking scheme during the Ghislaine Maxwell sentencing hearing.

01:05:13.000 This is something that was said by a judge.

01:05:16.000 This is a mainstream individual that Has not been brought to justice.

01:05:21.000 There you have Leslie Groff.

01:05:22.000 She will not face criminal charges.

01:05:25.000 Both of these women are named again and again in some of the documentation that we're talking about today that will be further released.

01:05:32.000 Then you have Nadia Marcinkova, now Nadia Marcinko.

01:05:36.000 Now, And she's the one that set up what looked like this underage flight thing where they supplied stewardesses on private jets. 1.00

01:05:44.000 And just to throw in real quickly, remember all the new viewers, you're hearing nothing about all the DVDs, about the hard drives, about the VHS tapes, closet after closet grabbed by the FBI.

01:05:55.000 You're hearing nothing about that.

01:05:57.000 Why?

01:05:58.000 Again, the list is a total distraction. 1.00

01:06:02.000 What is on the damn videotapes? 1.00

01:06:04.000 Keep going. 1.00

01:06:06.000 Absolutely, and really, what else did they find at other locations?

01:06:09.000 Because everything you just saw there, and there's also a picture of a safe where they disclosed, yet again, there was not only valuables, jewelry, money, the passport in which Epstein had a fake identity, and a Saudi Arabian address, but also they found CDs and photographic evidence in there as well.

01:06:29.000 Getting back to Marcinkova, If people read the documents and again started to become available five, six years ago, it's alleged that Marcin Kowa was bought as a young teenager in Eastern Europe and basically sold to

01:06:48.000 So this is somebody that was indoctrinated into the system as a 14 year old if you believe these documents and really became one of the main people in the network, a trusted individual, and as you saw right there, a flight instructor.

01:07:03.000 You know, when we talk about the flight logs that are available, Alex, I think that this is important to point out.

01:07:08.000 That there were many different planes, helicopters, there's even talks of submarines that were in use that we have logs from or we don't have logs from.

01:07:19.000 There may be institutions in law enforcement that have those logs.

01:07:23.000 We've never seen them.

01:07:25.000 And then the black book.

01:07:27.000 That people may or may not be aware of.

01:07:29.000 You know, there's a lot of fake lists that I've seen on the internet that just name people down the line.

01:07:35.000 Well, I'll tell you what wasn't fake.

01:07:36.000 That black book.

01:07:37.000 And how did that black book get published?

01:07:40.000 Well, that was actually leaked via one of the staff, the butlers, at the Epstein residence.

01:07:49.000 You can call it ironic, a dark comedy.

01:07:52.000 He actually served way more time than Epstein did for leaking that information.

01:07:57.000 Now, mainstream outlets, I want people to think about the gravity of this situation.

01:08:01.000 A lot of people have seen that leaked video, Alex, of the individual on NBC saying, I had the Epstein story for years and they wouldn't let me report on it.

01:08:10.000 Well, how about most of the mainstream media, at least the print media, had copies of that black book

01:08:17.000 and refused to publish it.

01:08:20.000 It was in fact--

01:08:21.000 And let me stop this and throw it out at you.

01:08:22.000 We have Bill Gates' wife saying she wanted to find out who this guy was

01:08:25.000 he was hanging out with all the time.

01:08:27.000 He was the most evil man she ever met, but she didn't tell the public.

01:08:30.000 We have McCain's widow saying they all knew what he was doing, but did nothing,

01:08:35.000 and she runs a children's group.

01:08:36.000 So they're all now acting like, oh, we knew all about it and he was terrible,

01:08:40.000 but they did nothing when they knew it was going on.

01:08:43.000 Absolutely did nothing and knew it was going on.

01:08:46.000 And to the former publication Gawker's credit, they at least published it.

01:08:51.000 Nick Bryant, who actually authored a book on the Franklin scandal that we were earlier discussing, got that.

01:08:57.000 And this is a guy that had done tons of mainstream work.

01:09:00.000 Rolling Stone, you name it.

01:09:03.000 A real hardcore journalist.

01:09:04.000 No one wanted to print that.

01:09:06.000 Gawker did print it and eventually through Peter Thiel were sued into the ground over

01:09:12.000 the Hogan sex tape if you can believe it.

01:09:15.000 Just a very weird instance.

01:09:16.000 He was upset that basically Thiel funded that lawsuit.

01:09:21.000 He was upset that he had finally been outed because he was closeted before that and Gawker

01:09:25.000 went down.

01:09:26.000 But it took a tabloid rag to print those numbers and those names.

01:09:33.000 And getting into some of the stuff that isn't talked about a lot.

01:09:37.000 Yesterday Alex we talked briefly about Zorro Ranch.

01:09:42.000 Now I sent over some articles over there where people can see that this was a place where

01:09:49.000 Epstein wanted to facilitate a baby making ranch.

01:09:53.000 And this place, unlike New York, allegedly has never been investigated or raided.

01:09:59.000 In fact, it was sold earlier this year.

01:10:03.000 And, you know, I'm going to be careful when I say this, but Courtney Love was one of the people Inside that black book.

01:10:11.000 I ended up getting in touch with Courtney Love's father.

01:10:13.000 They'd obviously had a falling out by then.

01:10:16.000 She had made it.

01:10:17.000 He actually made accusations that she was responsible for Kurt Cobain's murder.

01:10:22.000 I'm not going to go here nor there, but he essentially told me he never came on air, but I have the logs and I've done videos on it that a lot of girls.

01:10:33.000 Didn't make it out of the system, and when they were used up, they were either taken out to that desert and basically executed or taken out onto the water and thrown overboard.

01:10:43.000 And he says he knows this because his daughter told him this.

01:10:48.000 And again, I'm not saying that's factual.

01:10:50.000 I'm just putting it out there.

01:10:52.000 That's how dark this really is.

01:10:55.000 But let's talk about what we know is factual.

01:10:57.000 We'll get into all the details and clips next segment.

01:11:00.000 The fashion industry that was really funding Epstein, Peter Nygaard having women have babies that he then drained of their blood and marrow that he had injected into his veins.

01:11:11.000 He's on video saying it.

01:11:12.000 We'll play the clip, folks, coming up.

01:11:14.000 I mean, this is a sick cult, and it's all about breeding a secret master race, something we know that European elites have been doing for a while. 0.84

01:11:23.000 Epstein and them were just catering to continue this on.

01:11:26.000 Well, the eugenics angle is 100% there. 0.99

01:11:29.000 You know, you discuss Nygaard and you're actually showing video, if you listen to the audio, where they're trying to buy their reproductive organs.

01:11:39.000 I mean, it's pretty wild.

01:11:41.000 Well, he wants them to get pregnant and have babies that he then... This is a Count Dracula that doesn't eat other people's babies.

01:11:47.000 He eats his own babies.

01:11:49.000 Absolutely.

01:11:50.000 And you know, we didn't mention Jean-Luc Brunel.

01:11:53.000 This is an individual that is on a lot of the photographs that they used in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.

01:11:59.000 This is another guy in the fashion industry and through some of the predisclosed documents in the last five, six years.

01:12:08.000 You know, people talk about a quote-unquote client list.

01:12:11.000 Well, there is a post-it note that is very suggestive that they were getting multiple Young girls for Jean-Luc Brunel and the reason I bring up Jean-Luc Brunel is he was actually in a prison last year in Spain awaiting trial for other allegations of sexual misconduct and rape.

01:12:30.000 But let's go further.

01:12:32.000 Talk about the main guy, the main billionaire fashion mogul that was the guy supporting Epstein going back decades.

01:12:41.000 Yeah, no, we'll get to Wexner.

01:12:42.000 It's just that Brunel's no longer with us.

01:12:45.000 You can believe whether he took his life or not, and you can believe whether Epstein took his life or not, but this guy isn't even going to face trial.

01:12:53.000 And talk about not facing trial, yes, Les Wexner will not be facing trial.

01:12:58.000 This is a guy That despite a rather, I would say, effective and persuasive Hulu documentary on him, it is not really associated with Epstein in the mainstream media and really has pulled out all the stops in legalese.

01:13:16.000 But this is a guy that was behind Victoria's Secret.

01:13:20.000 He was also heavy into US and Israeli policy during the Iraq invasion.

01:13:27.000 In fact, there's a famous memo out there by Frank Luntz of the Wexner Group, in which they describe

01:13:36.000 that in order to--

01:13:37.000 now that basically we have gone into Afghanistan and taken out Saddam in short order,

01:13:42.000 how do we remain in the Middle East?

01:13:44.000 And they talk about filming pregnant women in tears, just pulling out all the stops to keep us 0.99

01:13:51.000 entrenched in this military industrial--

01:13:53.000 Well, Jason, from your research, because I know these agencies all do this, the CIA's been caught, MI6 has been caught, you know, heavily involved with King Charles, all of them, but this particular node or head of it seems to be predominantly Mossad.

01:14:07.000 And we have the former Mossad chief always being caught, you know, inside Epstein's compounds, photographed leaving and coming.

01:14:14.000 Well, let's look at Robert Maxwell, for instance, because this is, of course, not only the media mogul father of Ghislaine Maxwell, and Ghislaine being his protege.

01:14:26.000 Remember, he actually died, folks, falling off the Lady Ghislaine, the boat that he had named after her.

01:14:32.000 You know, before his death, Seymour Hersh had put out information saying that Robert Maxwell was indeed involved in the Mossad.

01:14:43.000 He was an agent of the Mossad.

01:14:44.000 Now, fast forward to today, Alex, and we've got documentaries out there that point to him also working with not only British intelligence, but Russian intelligence.

01:14:53.000 Let's go back to Hersh for a moment.

01:14:55.000 Well, Maxwell sued him.

01:14:58.000 And after Maxwell's death, guess what?

01:15:01.000 All these papers in the Mockingbird Media, yes, even then, that had attacked Hirsch and said he hoaxed the whole thing and, you know, he didn't have real information, he didn't have real sources.

01:15:11.000 No, Hirsch was exonerated.

01:15:13.000 That absolutely happened.

01:15:15.000 They had to print small retractions.

01:15:17.000 Yeah, that's Seymour Hirsch, the greatest living journalist.

01:15:20.000 Yes, somebody who absolutely deserves, you know, the Pulitzer Prizes that he won and deserves to be heard even today when it comes to the pipeline, Ukraine and the United States.

01:15:31.000 By the way, he came on the show once and he is a listener.

01:15:33.000 We're going to come right back on the other side with Jason.

01:15:36.000 We're going to look at what this currently means and then go back in the history of it.

01:15:40.000 This is the deep dive.

01:15:42.000 So much, this is just scratching the surface.

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01:15:48.000 Nothing is off limits.

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01:20:21.000 Jason, give us your take on what's currently happening, and obviously the blackmail behind the scenes, and it seems like mainly Democrats implicated, and who is going to be on that list that isn't on the flight logs.

01:20:34.000 I feel like the flight logs are basically the list.

01:20:36.000 We know there's more than just that black book that he was scribbling names down.

01:20:39.000 That was just a fragment of this.

01:20:40.000 The real things, the videotapes, the hard drives, the blackmail, we know what's going on, and the FBI and Justice Department suppressing this.

01:20:47.000 It's not like Epstein wrote the book on this.

01:20:51.000 Blackmail's gone on for thousands of years, but in modern parlance, it's, of course, the founder of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, who did write the book for the FBI on blackmail, and now they're the king daddies.

01:21:03.000 They make Epstein look like an amateur, and now they've got all these goodies.

01:21:07.000 I wonder what they're doing with it.

01:21:10.000 Well, you know, I'm glad you used the term, write the book, because a lot of the names that I see being revealed are actually going to be revealed through what was essentially a book treatment of Virginia Gaffrey Roberts of her time with Epstein and on the island that had been put into evidence.

01:21:28.000 So some of this stuff, again, in the public arena, but when it gets to these individuals, they are indeed blacked out.

01:21:36.000 I expect I expect Bill Clinton to be on that list.

01:21:39.000 I expect Ahud Barak to be on that list because of previous reporting.

01:21:45.000 Where it goes from there, I'm not 100% sure.

01:21:49.000 But for those that are interested, as of this moment, they are saying that these documents, despite that injunction, You know Alex, there's so much to go over.

01:21:57.000 and all you info warriors out there that wanna get your hands on it,

01:22:01.000 courtlistener.com will probably be the first place that you can get those raw documents.

01:22:09.000 You know, Alex, there's so much to go over.

01:22:11.000 We kinda ended the last segment talking about Robert Maxwell

01:22:15.000 and his media and intelligence connections.

01:22:19.000 And I think that when you look at Epstein, he has those same type of connections outside of the media.

01:22:27.000 I think the intelligence connections are there.

01:22:30.000 And that's not only shown by the fact that, again, the FBI and the NYPD were aware of him in the late 90s.

01:22:37.000 But when his behavior became so egregious, and I want people to think about this because this guy didn't come from old money.

01:22:44.000 This is a new type billionaire.

01:22:48.000 I mean, he was being serviced.

01:22:50.000 Uh, if you will, by multiple underage teenage girls every single day. 0.96

01:22:56.000 And that doesn't even match the depravity of some of these people that come from old money and are above him.

01:23:03.000 So much so, Alex, that when he finally did so much of this, and so much had been reported to local police, that they had to do something in the Palm Springs case in 2007.

01:23:14.000 Somehow a deal was cut with him.

01:23:19.000 Let's remember, this was industrial scale, where every year in the documentaries they admitted, and also in the depositions, out of the Palm Beach area they would recruit hundreds of girls a year.

01:23:30.000 Epstein would complain of the exhaustion.

01:23:33.000 He'd have to have sex with up to five young girls a day, as young as 13, normally from poor houses, trailer parks, things like that, offering mom money. 0.88

01:23:41.000 And then they would go recruit more girls out of the schools. 1.00

01:23:43.000 He would complain that he had to test drive the girls. 0.99

01:23:46.000 And was just exhausted that he had to have so much sex with girls he was basically raping. 1.00

01:23:52.000 Absolutely. 0.97

01:23:53.000 And remember, in that deal that he cut, he basically got immunity for himself, and we'll get to that in a moment.

01:24:00.000 But he got immunity for undisclosed, unnamed individuals.

01:24:05.000 Now, whether or not those are some of the individuals that we mentioned before, we still don't know because these documents have not been released to the public.

01:24:14.000 But let's talk about his incarceration for a moment.

01:24:19.000 Literally was able to leave at will he was followed by a private investigator somebody that was supposed to be in the prison system was leaving every single day going to private residences and again having females come in and service him throughout the entire time period that he supposedly served time in jail and then when he got out of The mainstream media essentially forgot about that instance and in many ways was trying to rebrand Epstein.

01:24:54.000 So you look at not only that but then after 2007 and this arrest that ends up coming up in 2017.

01:24:59.000 And this arrest that ends up coming up in 2017.

01:25:03.000 Why does this even happen?

01:25:05.000 Well, I would argue this happens because of localized pressure, the SDNY, because they

01:25:12.000 had just had so much information on this guy and there was slight pushback with some members

01:25:19.000 within Congress and the Senate.

01:25:22.000 And quite frankly, when we got to the 2016 election and people in the circles that had watched Alternative Media, had watched this broadcast, the Alex Jones Show, were just fed up with this network and Epstein and nothing being done.

01:25:40.000 Let me just add, we got you till 15 next hour and I want to finish up with Epstein now,

01:25:44.000 people kind of know about him and I want to get big picture and then I want to look at

01:25:47.000 some of the past.

01:25:48.000 I want to look at all these different women, Bill Gates' wife, John McCain's wife, TV news

01:25:57.000 anchors all saying, "Oh, we all knew but we did nothing."

01:26:00.000 Why the hell are they now admitting all of this?

01:26:02.000 Because they know it's coming out and they think that will curry them favor with the

01:26:06.000 public but this is how they've been controlling people.

01:26:09.000 Then you look at MI6.

01:26:10.000 If you want to talk about the King Daddy, I know the Mossad is really bad and so is

01:26:14.000 the CIA.

01:26:15.000 And of course the CIA...

01:26:16.000 would put all these mayors in Afghan towns, that was even in the Associated Press,

01:26:20.000 who were convicted pedophiles and give them children because they found they were the most

01:26:23.000 loyal. But when you pull back and you look at this, this is really their control system. I

01:26:29.000 want your view and your take and your expert view, and we produced films decades ago on this,

01:26:33.000 you and I, on how big this network is and how do we defeat them.

01:26:39.000 Because it's hiding in plain view that MI6, MI5, CIA, Mossad, Interpol's huge unit, there's been massive child kidnapping, rape rings that came out of the Netherlands and France, and Rothschild castles with kidnapped women and children found in the London Guardian reports, you know, 25 years ago.

01:26:55.000 I mean, there's so much!

01:26:58.000 UN worldwide, sex slavery rings in Europe and in Haiti, and thousands of kids kidnapped and shipped out of Hillary's Head of her foundation goes to prison for smuggling little kids illegally into the U.S. 0.63

01:27:08.000 that disappear, then the current open borders and the mass smuggling and sex slavery of children and Senate reports.

01:27:14.000 I mean, this is coming out! 0.57

01:27:16.000 Then the transgenderism and sexually targeting children to confuse them and move them to be sterilized. 1.00

01:27:22.000 I mean, it's about targeting our children.

01:27:23.000 So, give us your summation, then we'll get into more details of why they're doing this, what they're going to do next, how much danger the globalists are in, and how do we get attention on the Justice Department, not just suppressing Wiener's laptop, which you know is full of this, and tied to Hillary and Uma Abedin and, you know, Chuckie Schumer, but it's just, it's everywhere!

01:27:43.000 This is how they operate!

01:27:44.000 I mean, I would say... 0.96

01:27:46.000 What, half the Democrats are pedophiles, guesstimation? 0.83

01:27:49.000 Maybe 15% of the Republicans? 0.90

01:27:51.000 You know, look at Dennis Hastert.

01:27:52.000 I mean, you can't shake a stick in the dark and not hit one of these things.

01:27:58.000 Well, you know, these rings are vast and, you know, going back to where I was going with that, I just wanted to say that, you know, the spark that lit the fire under this coming out was really Donald Trump stepping up to the plate and making that initial comment about Bill Clinton and his relationship to Epstein via that Hannity interview when he was running.

01:28:18.000 In 2016.

01:28:20.000 So, you know, this is a guy that Trump absolutely had a relationship with Epstein, but was confident enough that that relationship was nothing like the one that Bill Clinton had had.

01:28:30.000 How big is this network and what is this network?

01:28:34.000 You know, Alex, I think that this is an international intelligence operation.

01:28:39.000 I think that it's absolutely outside of nation states.

01:28:44.000 We've used terms like diplomatic immunity to kind of funnel through the vast intelligentsia systems around the globe, and then we've used a lot of these corporations to kind of integrate them into what I would call is beyond phony capitalism at this point, into this techno-fascism.

01:29:05.000 And the way that they're able to do this is they do use the entertainment industry and the modeling industry.

01:29:11.000 You know, a lot of these young Let's go back.

01:29:14.000 that actually do make it through and into their 20s.

01:29:17.000 They do marry rich men. 0.95

01:29:19.000 You know, that's the case with people like Kalin and Marcinkova, for instance.

01:29:25.000 You know, they are in this weird circle of elitists that, you know, they'll marry a 60, 70 year old guy

01:29:32.000 or they'll marry a 30 year old. 1.00

01:29:34.000 And Jason, let's go back.

01:29:35.000 Every culture, when it goes through a decadence phase, in ancient Europe, ancient Africa, ancient,

01:29:41.000 all over the world this was done, Mesoamerica, all of them. 0.99

01:29:46.000 There's the famous guy that had sex dungeons, raped children, murdered children, had sex with dead bodies, all confirmed. 0.98

01:29:52.000 Best buddy, highest ranking guy in Prince Charles's entourage, had a total national security clearance, king level stuff. 0.99

01:30:00.000 There's Jimmy Savelle.

01:30:00.000 Folks, you can't make this up.

01:30:02.000 But before we do that, because I promised this, here's a clip A national news anchor saying they covered it up.

01:30:10.000 She doesn't even care that kids got hurt. 1.00

01:30:11.000 She just cares she couldn't break the story.

01:30:13.000 Here's the widow of John McCain admitting it.

01:30:16.000 Here's Bill Gates' now ex-wife admitting it all.

01:30:20.000 And then I'm gonna just play those three clips, and then I'm gonna segue into the Peter Nygaard clip

01:30:24.000 I talked about, and then the details in court documents said that he would pay the women to have it

01:30:29.000 first trimester for one procedure, suck the baby dry and inject it in his veins. 0.86

01:30:32.000 There's video of him doing it and bragging. 0.99

01:30:34.000 And then sometimes they'd have the women at nine months, and he would get underage girls pregnant as well, because he tells them the younger the better, and then he would suck the baby dry. 0.76

01:30:43.000 So his own child, he said, had better stem cells and inject it in himself.

01:30:47.000 So this isn't fabled Bram Stoker's, you know, Dracula. 0.92

01:30:51.000 Okay, this is... And not only that, Alex, he was drugging and raping a lot of those underage girls, and really one of the... We're going to get to it.

01:30:58.000 We're going to get to it.

01:31:00.000 We're going to get to it, but I want to play the clips.

01:31:01.000 People hear this.

01:31:03.000 It's in my book.

01:31:04.000 The transcript of this.

01:31:05.000 This is not a joke.

01:31:06.000 It's in The Great Awakening.

01:31:08.000 People read the book, say, is this real?

01:31:09.000 They go find the clip and are blown away.

01:31:10.000 So I want to play these clips.

01:31:12.000 Here it is.

01:31:13.000 You know, it was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not, that that was very upsetting to you.

01:31:23.000 Did that play a role in the divorce at all in this process?

01:31:27.000 Yeah, as I said, it's not one thing, it was many things.

01:31:32.000 But I did not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, no.

01:31:37.000 And you made that clear to him?

01:31:39.000 I made that clear to him.

01:31:41.000 I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time.

01:31:44.000 Did you?

01:31:44.000 Yes, because I wanted to see who this man was.

01:31:48.000 And I regretted it from the second I stepped in the door.

01:31:52.000 He was abhorrent. 0.78

01:31:54.000 He was evil personified. 0.89

01:31:56.000 I had nightmares about it afterwards.

01:31:58.000 No, it's like everything.

01:32:00.000 It hides in plain sight.

01:32:03.000 Epstein was hiding in plain sight.

01:32:05.000 We all knew about him.

01:32:06.000 We all knew what he was doing.

01:32:07.000 But we had no one that was, no legal aspect that would go after him.

01:32:13.000 They were afraid of him.

01:32:14.000 For whatever reason, they were afraid of him.

01:32:16.000 I've had the story for three years.

01:32:17.000 I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts.

01:32:20.000 We would not put it on the air.

01:32:22.000 First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein?

01:32:23.000 No one knows who that is. 1.00

01:32:24.000 This is a stupid story. 0.99

01:32:25.000 Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways. 1.00

01:32:35.000 We were so afraid we wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will that also quashed the story.

01:32:44.000 And then Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in it because of the planes.

01:32:47.000 She told me everything.

01:32:48.000 She had pictures.

01:32:49.000 She had everything.

01:32:50.000 She was in hiding for 12 years.

01:32:52.000 We convinced her to come out.

01:32:53.000 We convinced her to talk to us.

01:32:55.000 It was unbelievable what we had.

01:32:57.000 Clinton.

01:32:58.000 We had everything.

01:33:01.000 I tried for three years to get it on to no avail and now it's all coming out and it's like these new revelations and I freaking had all of it.

01:33:10.000 I'm so pissed right now.

01:33:12.000 Like every day I get more and more pissed because I'm just like, oh my god.

01:33:17.000 What we had was unreal.

01:33:19.000 Other women backing it up. 0.99

01:33:21.000 Hey, yep.

01:33:23.000 Brad Edwards, the attorney, three years ago saying, like, there will come a day when we will realize Jeffrey Epstein was the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known.

01:33:32.000 I had it all three years ago.

01:33:54.000 They just wouldn't take it out.

01:33:56.000 It's egg white?

01:33:57.000 Huh?

01:33:58.000 Is it egg white?

01:33:58.000 Yeah, it is, right?

01:34:00.000 And this is part of this genetic greatness that we don't see in any other race on the planet. 0.65

01:34:07.000 These curvy, sexy, Black women from Africa. 0.99

01:34:11.000 You girls have a kind of a monopoly on this genetic perfection. 1.00

01:34:16.000 And we want some of that.

01:34:21.000 So, girls, for $100, we'll pay you for your egg. 1.00

01:34:26.000 So how much do you want for it?

01:34:33.000 Let's bid.

01:34:33.000 I bid $500 for your egg.

01:34:38.000 Whatever I did, you cannot beat me.

01:34:41.000 That's wonderful.

01:34:42.000 $60,000 worth of eggs.

01:34:42.000 That's wonderful.

01:34:44.000 Yeah.

01:34:44.000 If you have a portion, that's very valuable.

01:34:48.000 And umbilical cord, you know.

01:34:51.000 And placenta, you know.

01:34:53.000 You know, your period blood is so rich with stem cells.

01:34:57.000 We regard it as waste, and it actually should be.

01:35:00.000 It should be captured.

01:35:02.000 It's recycled.

01:35:03.000 And it should go to waste.

01:35:06.000 It's life for somebody else.

01:35:08.000 And it's life for mankind.

01:35:11.000 The best things are 60 to 80 years old.

01:35:14.000 Those are the best things.

01:35:16.000 As you get older, your age gets weaker and weaker.

01:35:19.000 Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

01:35:21.000 So, you may not be our age.

01:35:24.000 No, that's fine.

01:35:25.000 I'm out of my business anyway.

01:35:28.000 Cloning yourself with the idea of making yourself immortal, I think, is...

01:35:33.000 It's science fiction.

01:35:36.000 And I think it's... Okay, let's stop right there.

01:35:38.000 But he did it all.

01:35:39.000 So it came out in court documents, the rest of it.

01:35:41.000 Notice they say, oh, it's just an egg.

01:35:43.000 Give us your egg.

01:35:43.000 And then like vampires, they start smacking it and exciting it.

01:35:46.000 Actually, if you have an abortion, and later he would have babies with the women. 0.93

01:35:50.000 These women are supermodels. 1.00

01:35:52.000 They're totally grossed out.

01:35:53.000 But they had young girls when they would escape from his compound.

01:35:57.000 On the Caribbean island, separate from Rep.

01:35:59.000 Epstein, another island, the police would bring them back. 0.95

01:36:03.000 So he's an evil vampire. 0.97

01:36:06.000 He's not living forever, but it's a spirit in him that wants to live forever that's literally creating a clone of himself or a baby with these women, they did both, and then sucking it dry. 0.84

01:36:18.000 So the Dark Crystals are a movie, but this is really going on.

01:36:21.000 Jason Burmess, Well, he also looks physically like Bram Stoker's Dracula.

01:36:27.000 He could look more physically like that guy.

01:36:31.000 And as you said, you know, it's actually a lot worse. 0.97

01:36:33.000 You know, the allegations are that he was drugging and raping girls as young as 14.

01:36:39.000 And it was actually his son, Alex, that was instrumental in finally getting the authorities to arrest him and put him behind bars.

01:36:49.000 recently convicted in just one of these cases.

01:36:53.000 There's another couple coming up.

01:36:55.000 I expect him to spend the rest of his life in prison.

01:37:00.000 And let me just stop you, 'cause we're short on time.

01:37:02.000 He hung out with Bill Gates, he hung out with Epstein.

01:37:06.000 So it's all, you got, you know, the main guy that funded Epstein connected all this. 0.97

01:37:13.000 So these are sick, sick people that hide behind intelligence agency credentials to do this. 0.94

01:37:18.000 Let me ask you before we go to break, come back and get to the actual killing of babies 1.00

01:37:21.000 and melting them down. 0.81

01:37:23.000 And Sandra Bullock, I don't think understands where she's getting it. 1.00

01:37:27.000 She thinks it's from four skins.

01:37:28.000 That's the cover story.

01:37:29.000 We're gonna cover some really sick stuff that nobody's talking about.

01:37:33.000 All documented, AP, CBS reports when we come back from many years ago.

01:37:36.000 But just in the few minutes we have, big picture.

01:37:40.000 Has this blown up in the deep state's face?

01:37:42.000 Are they really scared?

01:37:44.000 This trends every week all over the place.

01:37:46.000 Everybody's talking about it.

01:37:48.000 It's totally spreading the system.

01:37:49.000 They've been using it to blackmail and control the politicians.

01:37:52.000 But now we know who the politicians are, it seems to weaken them.

01:37:55.000 I think this is really devastating the globalists.

01:37:57.000 What do you think?

01:37:58.000 I think it's devastating to the narrative.

01:38:01.000 However, you know, in light of the fact that we know that they have all of this hardcore material, the tapes, the pictures, the logs, the burned DVDs, it seems like if they wanted to really take some of these individuals Well, again, that's now been in possession of the Justice Department for the better part of a decade.

01:38:27.000 Nothing has been done there, and we saw the same exact thing.

01:38:32.000 Yeah, so that's the bottom line.

01:38:33.000 Interrupt again, I'll give you the floor when we come back.

01:38:35.000 Bottom line, we'll do more shows on this.

01:38:36.000 People are now ready to hear it.

01:38:38.000 We're doing deep dives now.

01:38:38.000 We cover it all the time.

01:38:40.000 People say, why now?

01:38:40.000 Because people are tuning in.

01:38:41.000 People want to know now, so we're there to let them know this is key to bring down the system.

01:38:45.000 I cover what I want to cover all the time, but also when stuff comes back and the planets are aligned and people want to hear the truth, I do it.

01:38:51.000 The bottom line of what you're saying is it's true, is the FBI, the Justice Department, knows all this is going on.

01:38:57.000 They allow it to go on with the CIA.

01:38:59.000 When it gets caught, another agency comes and grabs it, just like J. Edgar Hoover did, and then they use it for power, and there's no doubt they're using it for blackmail and to control the government.

01:39:08.000 I mean, is the Justice Department really the dictatorship?

01:39:11.000 Are they really in control?

01:39:12.000 Is the real President Merrick Garland right now?

01:39:16.000 Well, I don't know if it's Merrick Garland, but I would argue that Bill Barr managed the Epstein situation throughout not only his arrest, but his eventual second suicide, Alex. 0.68

01:39:30.000 And then, after the fact, literally laughed about it on television.

01:39:34.000 And if you want, when we come back, we can cue up that clip when he's asked about the possible uh... suicide situation of the lane maxwell and he

01:39:44.000 literally burst all-news and i must say there are you can find him on rockfinn

01:39:49.000 adjacent vermus and adjacent vermus on x

01:39:52.000 and will also get another club uh... where gates makes a joke

01:39:57.000 you hear a feverishness to my voice were caught a deep dive and we'll be pretty

01:40:02.000 body else does but still just the service That's why I'm jumping over Burmese, he's jumping over me, because we've studied this, and it's just so deep, it's so out there.

01:40:10.000 It's so in your face.

01:40:12.000 Jason, I've been interrupting some, I did a pretty good job up front letting you talk, but obviously there's so much. 0.65

01:40:18.000 Give us five minute boil down, then we're gonna come back when some stations join us and get into the real bottom of the rat hole. 0.99

01:40:26.000 So let's talk Bill Barr before we even get to that clip.

01:40:30.000 Who's in charge?

01:40:31.000 Bill Barr is really career intelligentsia.

01:40:35.000 This is a guy that was in the Central Intelligence Agency before he actually passed the Barr exam and became a lawyer.

01:40:44.000 So he was CIA.

01:40:45.000 Then he becomes a lawyer.

01:40:47.000 Then he's in the Justice Department working with good buddies that will also come up in the Justice Department at the time, like Robert Mueller.

01:40:56.000 No joke, folks.

01:40:58.000 And then he is actually the youngest Attorney General ever under what I would consider the most outwardly deep state president of all time, George H.W.

01:41:09.000 Bush.

01:41:10.000 So he comes from the ilk of Wolfowitz.

01:41:14.000 Cheney Rumsfeld.

01:41:16.000 Now fast forward to this Epstein incident and now this story was later retracted.

01:41:23.000 I want to make that abundantly clear but it was reported before Epstein's death that Bill Barr had allegedly gone to the jail.

01:41:33.000 In fact it was in this story and on the bottom is the retraction and apparently they got it from a mafioso individual but After the fact there is almost no doubt that Barr managed this and what they don't tell you about that Epstein suicide is in that same prison they held El Chapo and when they had the hearings and they had the warden under oath and they asked when the last time they had had a suicide in that prison

01:42:03.000 It was over 13 years ago.

01:42:07.000 Remember, the guards fall asleep.

01:42:09.000 Initially, they're charged with crimes.

01:42:11.000 Those charges are dropped.

01:42:13.000 Now, if you look at this article right here, after the fact, Bill Barr allegedly questioned Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate after his suicide.

01:42:26.000 Now, this was the new cellmate.

01:42:30.000 I want to remind people of that because in the first incident, he was actually a somme 0.99

01:42:35.000 with a man named Nicholas Tartiglione, who was a former police officer.

01:42:41.000 And if you ever saw the pictures of him, roid rage would not describe his physical appearance.

01:42:48.000 Also, he was charged with the crime and I do believe later convicted of it was either

01:42:54.000 a triple or quadruple murder in which he took these people out to a upstate New York farm

01:43:01.000 in what they thought was a drug deal and it was really their execution.

01:43:06.000 That's the kind of guy they're dealing with and it was Epstein's lawyers after the quote

01:43:12.000 First suicide attempt that came out and conveyed that Epstein had said he had been strangled by Tartiglione and that's what actually happened in the first incident.

01:43:23.000 Now these are all publicly available.

01:43:27.000 Bring it back to Bill Barr who during the Trump administration in many ways said all the right things and made all the right denials.

01:43:37.000 But what we know That the Department of Justice had that Hunter Biden laptop well before the 2020 election.

01:43:47.000 Jason, there's so much to cover and I'm not criticizing you.

01:43:50.000 Everyone knows they broke his neck in three places.

01:43:52.000 The coroner said it looked like homicide.

01:43:54.000 So I think we're covering old ground here.

01:43:56.000 Everybody knows they murdered him.

01:43:58.000 They broke his neck.

01:43:59.000 He's dead.

01:44:00.000 He was a front man for the Mossad, CIA, MI6.

01:44:04.000 I just want, when we come back, to talk about where you see this going and what we can do to put pressure on the Justice Department and the FBI so it's not about the list, it's about the videotapes, it's about the hard drives.

01:44:16.000 To me, that's the big kahuna.

01:44:18.000 @JasonBermos on X.

01:44:20.000 I'm @RealAlexJones on X and at Infowars.com/show.

01:44:24.000 We're going to finish up there, and we have a little tidbits, and then we're going to

01:44:28.000 talk about who's the new Jeffrey Epstein.

01:44:30.000 Because you know there's a lot of these guys.

01:44:32.000 This is just one of the operatives, a high-level one no doubt.

01:44:35.000 He's more like a maitre d'. 0.61

01:44:36.000 He doesn't own the hotel or the restaurant, but he's the star of the whole thing.

01:44:41.000 He's the front man, he's the fall guy, he's the bag man.

01:44:44.000 And then we're gonna get to the real vampiric nature of this.

01:44:46.000 Stay with us.

01:44:48.000 Oh, we're bad boys!

01:44:49.000 Alex Jones and Jason Bermas doing the deep dive, which again, is just the surface of this.

01:44:54.000 It's crazy that we're doing the deep dive.

01:44:56.000 I gotta make a full-length documentary about this because there's so many out there, but they only hit one aspect or another.

01:45:03.000 Man, I cut my teeth with the former high-level section chief, or head of the LA FBI, who told me everything.

01:45:10.000 I'd be sitting there at dinner eating a chicken fried steak, drinking beer, with Ted Gunnarsson.

01:45:14.000 He'd be saying, they're Satanists. 0.99

01:45:15.000 They chop the kids up and they don't just suck their blood. 0.99

01:45:17.000 They put it in their veins. 0.93

01:45:18.000 And Al Gore takes children's blood every day.

01:45:21.000 And then like five years later, it's an AP that he's getting off a private jet in a small refrigerator, bust open with bags of blood everywhere.

01:45:27.000 I mean, and you're just like, what?

01:45:29.000 He's like, "You gotta go to Bohemian Grove.

01:45:31.000 "They worship a big owl.

01:45:32.000 "We find dead kids outside of it."

01:45:34.000 And by the way, he didn't know this 'til he retired, was out in LA, and then it was just all around him.

01:45:40.000 So we've been on this, folks, and I don't wanna be the guy that knows it all.

01:45:44.000 Neither does Jason.

01:45:44.000 We wanna stop this, but we have to admit it's going on.

01:45:47.000 So here's a clip of Senator Kennedy making a joke about there's three things that don't hang themselves,

01:45:52.000 Christmas lights, drywall, and of course Jeffrey Epstein.

01:45:55.000 And then we're gonna go right into the clip of Bill Barr, of the CIA and high-level CIA and the former head of the

01:46:02.000 Justice Department twice.

01:46:03.000 Nobody's done that.

01:46:04.000 Talk about insider, insider.

01:46:07.000 And then we'll get to a clip of Gates joking about Epstein.

01:46:12.000 Here it is.

01:46:13.000 How can I put this?

01:46:20.000 Christmas ornaments, drywall and Jerry Epstein.

01:46:26.000 And three things that don't hang themselves.

01:46:29.000 That's what the American people think.

01:46:32.000 That's what the American people think.

01:46:35.000 And they deserve some answers.

01:46:38.000 And I know that you're not in charge of these investigations.

01:46:42.000 Yes, sir.

01:46:43.000 But you talk to the people who are.

01:46:46.000 And I need you to take a very respectful message today.

01:46:50.000 Tell the American people what happened.

01:46:58.000 [BLANK_AUDIO]

01:47:00.000 And don't rush it so that they don't do a thorough investigation.

01:47:04.000 But you and I both know they can make this a top priority and get it done more quickly than they normally would.

01:47:12.000 I want to make sure I pronounce her name correctly.

01:47:15.000 Jelaine Maxwell is now in federal custody.

01:47:22.000 Number one, can you ensure that she will make it to trial?

01:47:27.000 Jeffrey Epstein died.

01:47:30.000 Suicide situation.

01:47:31.000 Are you locked in on this to make sure that doesn't happen, sir?

01:47:36.000 Yes.

01:47:37.000 Can you give me a sense of what you told the people in charge?

01:47:43.000 You know, we have asked them to tell us specifically the protocols.

01:47:47.000 Is there a lesson for you, for anyone else looking at this?

01:47:53.000 Well, he's dead. So, you know, in general, you always have to be careful.

01:47:58.000 And, you know, the, you know, I'm very proud of what we've done in philanthropy,

01:48:06.000 very proud of the work of the foundation.

01:48:08.000 All right, so he's dead, you got to be careful.

01:48:10.000 So he's just laughing about it.

01:48:12.000 He's dead.

01:48:13.000 Bill Gates was using him to blackmail people in the scientific community, we now know that.

01:48:17.000 Jason Burmiss, we got a few minutes left.

01:48:19.000 We have another guest joining us to talk about Israel and the world and Christianity and a lot more.

01:48:24.000 I've seen this guy for years.

01:48:25.000 I thought why not actually talk to Brother Kapner coming up.

01:48:28.000 That should be very interesting.

01:48:32.000 I got a few more clips I want to hit here before you leave us, but anything else you'd like to add?

01:48:36.000 And we obviously need to do a deep dive, some Saturday commercial-free for like three hours.

01:48:40.000 You can send me 30, 40 clips.

01:48:41.000 I think I've got more than that.

01:48:43.000 We can play some clips from your film about this, Invisible Empire, Defining the New World Order.

01:48:48.000 And I can have my clips.

01:48:49.000 And we'll just do two, three hours commercial-free and just blow people away because this is important.

01:48:54.000 It's how this deep state has this current coup d'etat against America.

01:48:57.000 They're using the same management system around the world.

01:49:01.000 Absolutely, and Alex, what I think that we do need to do is we've got to hold those guys right there that are laughing in our face in public accountable somehow, some way.

01:49:11.000 We have to bring back the spirit of at least Iran-Contra, which was the last time in this country the deep state, the continuity of government, the shadow government, whatever you wanted to call it, was at least exposed to the level where there was some accountability.

01:49:27.000 We need Some type of accountability, criminal accountability in this Epstein case that goes beyond Ghislaine Maxwell and into the arena of the compromised politicians, into the arena of the

01:49:43.000 Those that enable this not only in the intelligence agencies, but these private networks that we've discussing obviously in the arena of fashion and entertainment as well.

01:49:54.000 And that's what we got to do.

01:49:55.000 We got to drive this home and demand demand that this isn't over and that these criminals have to be brought to justice.

01:50:06.000 I agree.

01:50:06.000 And let me do something here I meant to do up front with you.

01:50:08.000 I like Aaron Rodgers coming out against the shot.

01:50:12.000 He's a great quarterback.

01:50:13.000 Friends with Joe Rogan.

01:50:14.000 Says he's a great guy.

01:50:15.000 I've heard he's a listener.

01:50:16.000 And I'm not trying to criticize Aaron, but Aaron's falling for what we fell for a little bit.

01:50:21.000 Where you have the WikiLeaks and they're saying we're going to do Aleister Crowley rituals to the Podestas.

01:50:26.000 We're going to have kids 7, 8, 9 in the hot tub for your entertainment. 0.99

01:50:30.000 Remember, they're kids.

01:50:31.000 They're well trained.

01:50:32.000 But I mean, it's clear what they're saying.

01:50:34.000 You know, tens of thousands of dollars of hot dogs being delivered to Obama's party.

01:50:38.000 That's not pedophile. 0.99

01:50:39.000 That's the code for, you know, male prostitutes. 1.00

01:50:41.000 I think it was $56,000 or whatever it was.

01:50:44.000 That all broke, and they put Assange in prison for it without a trial.

01:50:49.000 And they immediately had CNN, New York Times go, look at this pizza place!

01:50:53.000 It's a dungeon, that's where they're doing it to divert us off.

01:50:56.000 And I only covered what people were saying about it, then they acted like I made the whole thing up.

01:51:00.000 Okay, and then now Pizzagate isn't real. 0.96

01:51:02.000 Now, a bunch of the reporters that said it wasn't real have been busted raping children.

01:51:05.000 So there's a real civil war inside the government as well.

01:51:07.000 The government's not all bad, it's just got these agents in it, good guys and bad guys.

01:51:11.000 But...

01:51:13.000 Rogers needs to know, and I'm so sick of it.

01:51:15.000 There's all these fake lists, and I don't like Tom Hanks.

01:51:17.000 He's a big liberal.

01:51:18.000 He's an anti-gunner.

01:51:19.000 But Tom Hanks is not, from what I've seen, involved in this.

01:51:22.000 And it's the same thing with Aaron Rodgers.

01:51:25.000 Aaron, those are fake lists, bro.

01:51:28.000 And now Jimmy Kimmel is probably going to sue you, and it's going to try to discredit you.

01:51:32.000 Oh, look, you know, Aaron Rodgers did that, and he got sued.

01:51:35.000 None of this is going on, and they're flooding the zone.

01:51:38.000 With these fake lists and things to create this confusion, okay?

01:51:43.000 That's all the list are a diversion, okay?

01:51:47.000 What we want is what's on the videotapes and the hard drives that say photos and video shoots.

01:51:51.000 And we know what they were doing.

01:51:53.000 We know.

01:51:54.000 We know.

01:51:54.000 That's what we want.

01:51:56.000 So it's lies within lies.

01:51:57.000 We obsess over the client list.

01:51:59.000 We obsess over the fly logs.

01:52:00.000 Important.

01:52:01.000 Gives us ideas.

01:52:02.000 You know, there.

01:52:03.000 But it's the... That's like knowing somebody is a suspect in a murder and a witness says, I saw John Doe shoot the woman in the back of the head in his yard and put her in the back of his car.

01:52:13.000 The police go there, open the back of the trunk, the woman's in the car. 1.00

01:52:17.000 And then they go and grab him inside and he, and you know, under her fingernails is his skin where she scratched him.

01:52:24.000 That's open and shut, murder one.

01:52:26.000 You're going to the electric chair, going to lethal injection these days.

01:52:29.000 So all I'm saying is don't fall for the trap of sitting there and when they spice this in with these people.

01:52:37.000 Look, Hollywood's so evil, I don't know what Tom Hanks is into.

01:52:40.000 But we need to actually go out to people that we have red-handed, like Bill Clinton.

01:52:45.000 You know, I couldn't agree with you more.

01:52:53.000 You know, I've spoken out a lot with the VAQ and nonsense out there, and I'm so glad that you brought up that Podesta email that involved the Lozado children that were named by age to be ubered to a farm For entertainment in a hot tub in an email that was addressed to John Podesta and a group of men.

01:53:16.000 Anybody who has children or has been around children would raise major red flags and this is just a small anecdote Alex but years and years ago when those emails first came out the New York Times contacted me And basically wanted to do a hit piece on you and had me speak out against you.

01:53:35.000 And I said, you know, I'd love to talk to you guys as soon as you publish this email.

01:53:40.000 And I sent them that email to Podesta and I never heard back from them again.

01:53:44.000 What a shocking surprise, Mr. Jones.

01:53:47.000 By the way, you should post on X that email and I'll repost it to X. Do that as soon as you can, Jason, and we'll do it.

01:53:54.000 I'm going to let you go, brother.

01:53:55.000 I'm going to play a few clips and go to our guest.

01:53:57.000 Thank you so much for being with us.

01:53:59.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:54:00.000 I appreciate it.

01:54:01.000 Powerful hour of broadcast time.

01:54:04.000 An hour 15 with, you know, the ads.

01:54:07.000 We're going to post this to X. Elon is out of the way.

01:54:10.000 He's letting us do it.

01:54:11.000 The system's coming after him.

01:54:13.000 This is so critical.

01:54:15.000 This is so important.

01:54:16.000 I'm going to go to our next guest in a moment.

01:54:17.000 I'll take a little bit of time from Kate Daly into the next hour so that our next guest gets a full hour with us.

01:54:23.000 I appreciate him coming on, but I forgot Vivek Ramaswamy was on and that screwed up my whole day because he was on for 25 minutes.

01:54:29.000 That's why we're behind some.

01:54:30.000 And that was some big breaking news with him as well.

01:54:32.000 But since I mentioned the vampirism, you saw Peter Nygaard hooked him with Gates and Epstein.

01:54:37.000 Shane, I don't just want your eggs. 1.00

01:54:39.000 I want you to have a baby and I'm gonna suck its juices out and inject it in me. 1.00

01:54:42.000 Okay, I showed you that. 1.00

01:54:43.000 This is Count Dracula stuff for real.

01:54:46.000 But here is a AP report covered by CBS News.

01:54:48.000 NBC covered it too.

01:54:50.000 ABC covered it.

01:54:50.000 I got a bunch of clips.

01:54:52.000 And then here's another clip of first of Sandra Bullock saying, oh, I get injected in my face baby foreskin. 0.94

01:55:00.000 No, sweetheart. 0.93

01:55:01.000 It's not baby foreskin.

01:55:02.000 And France is a big fence out of China.

01:55:05.000 Where they kill babies, some of them after they're aborted, many of them after they're born, with the one-child policy that's now ended. 0.99

01:55:11.000 They would come grab them up to six months old and kill them, and then suck all their juices. 0.98

01:55:15.000 So this is going on, this is real. 0.90

01:55:18.000 Let's play Sandra Bullock with the baby powder story from over a decade ago, back to back.

01:55:23.000 Okay, let's talk about this facial that you're obsessed with.

01:55:27.000 Did you get the whole cast of Ocean's 8 to do this?

01:55:29.000 Not everybody.

01:55:29.000 Okay, good, smart ones.

01:55:32.000 Just those that I thought would appreciate it.

01:55:34.000 Okay, explain what it is.

01:55:36.000 Well, it's this way in which one forces through micro-needling.

01:55:42.000 It's like a little roller with these, some of you, I don't think many of you know it, and it pushes through the skin and ruptures the collagen and then boosts it.

01:55:49.000 You look like a burn victim for a day, but then it pushes... What are you pushing into the skin, Sandra?

01:55:55.000 Carrie, what are you pushing into the skin?

01:55:59.000 Well, you push in whatever the facialist would like to insert into your pores.

01:56:04.000 But what is it?

01:56:05.000 It is an extraction from a piece of skin that came from a young person far, far away, and they somehow figured out how to extract... It's foreskin from a Korean baby. 0.99

01:56:26.000 That's what it is. 0.95

01:56:28.000 Who comes up with this?

01:56:28.000 Okay.

01:56:29.000 I don't think.

01:56:30.000 I don't think.

01:56:31.000 It's not like I'm lying there with little pieces all over my face.

01:56:35.000 Who thinks of collecting it and having it for a week?

01:56:38.000 Okay, so she's saying it comes from four skins from far, far away.

01:56:43.000 That's not true.

01:56:44.000 It comes from dead babies.

01:56:46.000 They melt down.

01:56:47.000 That's a fact.

01:56:48.000 This is well known.

01:56:49.000 Whenever I cover this, the media says it's not true.

01:56:51.000 I have hundreds of reports.

01:56:51.000 It's on record.

01:56:53.000 Back when the mainstream media 10, 15 years ago still had some soul, here's just one of the clips.

01:56:58.000 South Korea reports seizing thousands of smuggled drug capsules containing an unusual added ingredient, the powdered flesh from dead babies.

01:57:07.000 Some people believe they can cure disease.

01:57:10.000 The Korea Customs Service says they were made in northeastern China from babies whose bodies were chopped into small pieces and dried on stoves before being turned into powder.

01:57:20.000 But they wouldn't say where they believe the babies came from or exactly who made the capsules, citing possible diplomatic friction with Beijing.

01:57:28.000 The contents, though, were identified by scientific testing.

01:57:33.000 When we analyzed it, the powdered material sequence is better than a 99.7% match with a human DNA sequence.

01:57:41.000 No one's been reported ill from ingesting them, but scientist Shin Woo Gi warns they have the potential to be dangerous.

01:57:48.000 We also see superbacteria and other germs and viruses harmful to a person if consumed.

01:57:54.000 Some of the capsules were carried in luggage, others were sent by international mail.

01:57:59.000 The smugglers told customs officials they believed the capsules were ordinary stamina boosters and didn't know the manufacturing process.

01:58:06.000 One official said no one's been punished, but a customs clearance director at Incheon Airport warned consumers should be careful about health food supplements where the ingredients aren't clearly marked.

01:58:17.000 Karen Sloan, The Associated Press. 0.77

01:58:23.000 Okay, so they're not just raping babies. 0.99

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01:59:41.000 All right, I have seen this guy for 15 years online, and Brother Nathaniel Kattner joins us.

01:59:52.000 He was born to two Jewish parents that raised traditional Judaism in a synagogue.

01:59:56.000 Having attended Hebrew school, Shabbat school, and regular synagogue services, he felt from his Bar Mitzvah days that something was missing in Judaism.

02:00:05.000 At the age of 19, he read the New Testament and the first time was convinced that Jesus was the Messiah.

02:00:09.000 Later on in his adult life, he felt necessary to start a real Jews news website and video to point of the dominant influence of Jewry in all facets of American life.

02:00:18.000 And this is part of a series I'm doing where we have Nick Fuentes on and then I'm going to have Ezra LeVant, who I think is awesome, on.

02:00:26.000 I love Jews.

02:00:28.000 I love Muslims.

02:00:29.000 I love everybody.

02:00:31.000 I want to be clear about that.

02:00:32.000 But I think we should hear what the different sides are saying.

02:00:36.000 And I used to see Kaepner, very entertaining, you know, kind of being aggressive and mad at certain groups.

02:00:42.000 I think now I've seen his videos, pretty powerful things he says about Christ and about the Orthodox Church.

02:00:48.000 And I'm not part of that.

02:00:49.000 I'm just a Christian with the Holy Spirit.

02:00:53.000 And I think it's important to have these dialogues and then ask him questions.

02:00:56.000 Here today that I have, like, okay, radical orthodox Islam is being major backed by the universities on the left.

02:01:02.000 Just because I don't like what Israel's doing with the bombardment of Gaza, doesn't mean I have to then embrace Hamas trying to launch balloons with big ropes and bags of sand trying to take down aircraft.

02:01:11.000 So there's a larger globalist manipulation going on.

02:01:15.000 I wanted to ask him where he thinks that's going.

02:01:17.000 Because when I had the last guest on, who I made a film with 15 years ago, called fabled enemies as a big part about the Mossad, you

02:01:26.000 know, involved in sex trafficking of children to control America. And then I say

02:01:30.000 also the CIA does it because they've been busted doing it. And MNI6 is like,

02:01:33.000 oh you're covering up for the Jews. Well I don't think Jews are guilty because their

02:01:38.000 intelligence agencies did a stand down on October 7th and now 15%

02:01:42.000 support Netanyahu over there.

02:01:44.000 And so I'm not an apologist for Jews or Muslims or Christians or anybody.

02:01:48.000 I'm simply trying to say evil is the issue we have that inhabits men's hearts.

02:01:53.000 So that said, we got him on late because I was late with Vivek Ramaswamy earlier, so that backed things up.

02:01:58.000 We'll go a little bit the next hour to make sure he gets plenty of time.

02:02:02.000 And so, Brother Nathaniel Kaepner, you can start wherever you want here.

02:02:06.000 I just thought you'd be interesting to have you on.

02:02:08.000 So thank you for accepting the invitation.

02:02:11.000 There's a war going on, and Sun Tzu says, in the art of war, you must know who the enemy is.

02:02:19.000 Or, we're shadowboxing, as St.

02:02:23.000 Paul says.

02:02:25.000 I know who the enemy is.

02:02:26.000 I can go right to the Bible, and I can go to the book of the Apocalypse, and our Lord, God, and Savior, Jesus Christ, said it twice.

02:02:37.000 The synagogue of Satan. 0.57

02:02:40.000 He said it twice.

02:02:42.000 It's a synagogue, it's universal, it's collective, and it's evil. 1.00

02:02:50.000 Jews are the enemy. 1.00

02:02:51.000 They run everything in this country, but they run internationally all the Western governments through money. 0.99

02:03:00.000 The famous saying, I'm sure you know it Alex, by Mayor Anne Rothschild, give me a control of a nation's money, and I care not.

02:03:13.000 Who makes its laws? 0.94

02:03:15.000 So the first thing Vivek has to do, if I'm pronouncing his name right, or Trump, which he won't because he's financed through all his real estate, through the banks, he can't do it, is to end the Fed, and I know Ron Paul, and I know his assistant, but we have to start with audit the Fed.

02:03:34.000 Let's find out where the money is going.

02:03:36.000 And who's ever the head of the CIA here has no clue.

02:03:40.000 Where all the money is going internationally.

02:03:44.000 I have some idea where it's going and who's doing it.

02:03:48.000 If you and I did it, Alex, it would be counterfeit.

02:03:51.000 But the Jews have the franchise to do counterfeit legally. 1.00

02:03:57.000 That's my opening statement.

02:03:59.000 Off the cuff.

02:04:00.000 Why, going back to the Middle Ages, would the kings of Europe only give the Jews the right to usury? 0.99

02:04:07.000 Because the Jews were in charge of the trade routes and the initial forex exchange rates began with King Solomon. 0.98

02:04:15.000 You want to talk about globalists?

02:04:17.000 King Solomon was the first globalist!

02:04:20.000 He's the one that opened up international trade.

02:04:23.000 Yes.

02:04:24.000 And that's when the Jews started to control the trade. 0.98

02:04:28.000 There it was limited, but it did go as far as India.

02:04:31.000 Well, I mean, but the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Chinese, they all had the Chinese. 0.90

02:04:36.000 I mean, hold on here.

02:04:38.000 You were born Jewish to Jewish parents, right?

02:04:40.000 I mean, you think your parents were in on this conspiracy against humanity?

02:04:45.000 I wouldn't call it a conspiracy.

02:04:48.000 It's something the Jews had since the time of Solomon, and it expanded throughout the ages that they had control of the trade routes. 0.87

02:04:56.000 They had control of currency.

02:04:58.000 The prophet Hosea says the Jews are merchants. 0.93

02:05:01.000 That's what they are.

02:05:03.000 Now, as far as my father is concerned, he wasn't a conspiracist.

02:05:06.000 He was a very strong Orthodox Jew.

02:05:10.000 But he was not a Zionist.

02:05:12.000 So this is what I grew up in, with a father, strong Orthodox Jew, strong religious and racial identity, who was not a Zionist, who understood where the money comes from.

02:05:24.000 My dad knew it, because he played the stocks.

02:05:28.000 His brother, his younger brother, made over a million dollars in the stock market, never worked a day in his life.

02:05:35.000 And my other brother was a stockbroker, his other brother was a stockbroker.

02:05:39.000 I think I understand some things that Here's the expression that Goyim could never understand.

02:05:45.000 Well, it was actually my ancestor, direct lineage paternal, who invented the stock exchange.

02:05:50.000 He was English.

02:05:51.000 His name was Gresham.

02:05:52.000 His symbol was the grasshopper.

02:05:54.000 You say the Jews invented the stock market? 0.98

02:05:57.000 Well, they did.

02:06:00.000 Okay, you want to say somebody, someone here invented it, but the one who internationalized it was Jewry, because it's the international Jew!

02:06:09.000 The Jews are expanded throughout the world!

02:06:12.000 Well, look, like I said, here's my deal.

02:06:14.000 We're going to go to break in a couple minutes.

02:06:15.000 I'm just going to let you talk.

02:06:18.000 I'm not doubting that there's powerful, you know, Mossad organized crime groups.

02:06:22.000 But I mean, are you saying they control the Chinese, the Russians?

02:06:26.000 I mean, really?

02:06:28.000 How in the world can China be doing all our corporate production without their Jewish money? 1.00

02:06:33.000 They're still linked into Jewish money.

02:06:35.000 Same with Trump, with all his real estate ventures.

02:06:38.000 You think he's going to dare to say he's in the Fed?

02:06:40.000 He's never touched it.

02:06:41.000 He's never said a word about it.

02:06:43.000 But somebody like Ron Paul, who I know you're friends with, did.

02:06:47.000 And it's a shame that he left Congress, because he's the only voice that could say, we've got to do something about the Fed!

02:06:53.000 He couldn't stand after 20-plus years.

02:06:59.000 He was in Congress once, then came back.

02:07:01.000 He lost his voice.

02:07:03.000 I know Ron Paul.

02:07:04.000 I know his assistant.

02:07:05.000 He's a devout Catholic.

02:07:06.000 We're friends, okay?

02:07:07.000 I'm not saying I'm friends with Ron Paul, but I know him.

02:07:10.000 I've met him.

02:07:10.000 He likes me.

02:07:13.000 And he's right.

02:07:13.000 But even his son's not saying this.

02:07:16.000 We have to go to the money power.

02:07:18.000 And I'm going to keep on saying it for maybe your audience and other people.

02:07:22.000 It's a drag.

02:07:23.000 It's a bore.

02:07:24.000 It's dry.

02:07:25.000 But Mayor Emshel Rothschild was right.

02:07:29.000 Give me a control of the nation's money.

02:07:31.000 I don't care who makes its laws.

02:07:33.000 And this is what Larry Fink of BlackRock is part of.

02:07:36.000 It's part of this whole Rothschild orbit. 0.92

02:07:39.000 Well, Fink did say we're going to control everybody's You control corporations, you control media, you can control every hack on Capitol Hill.

02:07:47.000 With money.

02:07:48.000 Larry Fink?

02:07:49.000 He will never go to jail.

02:07:51.000 Never.

02:07:51.000 I guarantee you, he will never go to jail.

02:07:54.000 Well, Larry Fink did say repeatedly, we will control everybody's behavior with money.

02:07:58.000 Oh, he does!

02:07:59.000 He owns large shares in Disney!

02:08:01.000 So he's part of this woke thing!

02:08:03.000 Because the whole, and I learned this from a child, the whole thing about Jewry is to destroy Christianity! 1.00

02:08:10.000 Now, if they can't destroy Jesus Christ, which is impossible, they'll do everything they can to undermine his teachings!

02:08:17.000 And one of the teachings of the Bible, okay, is that the male and the female come together for procreation and holy matrimony.

02:08:24.000 So they're going after that.

02:08:25.000 They're going after that first, and they're going after the youth.

02:08:28.000 Me and you, they're not going to get, Alex.

02:08:30.000 Okay?

02:08:31.000 We're over 50.

02:08:32.000 The over-50 crowd, they couldn't care less about.

02:08:34.000 It's the 9-year-olds, the 10-year-olds, the 11-year-olds.

02:08:38.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:08:38.000 We've got to go to break.

02:08:40.000 I want to come back and debate you on this, because I just think... Well, let's just talk about it.

02:08:45.000 We'll be right back.

02:08:47.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:48.000 We're skipping the next break so we've got about 27 minutes here and we'll do a little bit more in the next hour with our guests.

02:08:54.000 I don't want to call this a debate but a discussion because I'm very frustrated.

02:08:58.000 I'm a student of history.

02:08:59.000 I really like it.

02:09:00.000 I can tell Kattner knows a lot of history.

02:09:01.000 I've watched a lot of what he says and you know we talked about history and things.

02:09:05.000 I mean you have to do a lot of research to know what he knows.

02:09:07.000 I even hear some things I don't know about historically.

02:09:10.000 I look it up.

02:09:11.000 It's accurate.

02:09:12.000 But then I get accused by the people that obsess on Jews all day that I'm run by the Jews or I'm funded.

02:09:18.000 I've, to be quite frank with you...

02:09:20.000 I've had the ADL for 25 years trying to take me off the air.

02:09:25.000 And I've had Sacha Baron Cohen basically say I need to be arrested.

02:09:29.000 And I've been persecuted.

02:09:31.000 But growing up in Dallas, there was a lot of racial tension.

02:09:35.000 I never started fights.

02:09:36.000 I had a lot of black friends, by the way, and played football and everything.

02:09:39.000 But I got attacked quite a bit by black people because I was white.

02:09:43.000 I don't look at another black person and hate them because some other black person racially attacked me. 0.95

02:09:48.000 So my frustration is saying Jews, like if Jews didn't exist, we'd be in nirvana. 0.98

02:09:55.000 We'd be in heaven.

02:09:57.000 And then I see 15% support in Israel for Netanyahu.

02:10:02.000 I see the Rothschilds trying to get rid of him. 0.69

02:10:03.000 I'm not saying he's good.

02:10:04.000 There's a clear stand down.

02:10:06.000 I talk about that.

02:10:07.000 But then I go look at Islam that wants to conquer the West and the left's allied with it. 1.00

02:10:12.000 I see something bigger here. 0.99

02:10:14.000 And then we talk, he says, Jews are the problem. 1.00

02:10:16.000 And I'm going to shut up and let you talk. 0.98

02:10:19.000 But then we talk about, you know, the Old Testament, and people get mad when we say Judeo-Christian.

02:10:25.000 I mean, Christianity, you know, Christ said, I've come to fulfill the law, and so he did come from the line of David, and I'm not saying stuff that the Jews picked up in Babylon or other places, you know, some of those teachings isn't bad.

02:10:37.000 I'm simply saying, Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, it seems to me if we just say Jews are bad people, well that's like the left saying white people are inherently bad and the head of the ADL says, well wait, we're the one teaching that but not Jews. 0.96

02:10:49.000 So I know the ADL is a vicious, evil, anti-American, leftist, Jewish, supremist organization and I'm against them and the KKK. 0.99

02:10:58.000 The New Black Panther Party.

02:11:00.000 I want to just have a big tent and I see a lot of Jews that you know call in and on the street and support me that are just conservatives and are good people like your dad was and you know we had all these great Jewish people on over the years, doctors and scientists that are fighting tyranny and I just think it's not fair to them To say this is a Jewish conspiracy.

02:11:22.000 You can say there's an organized global, you know, different racial crime groups and we know that's real and I get opposed by those groups.

02:11:29.000 So that's all I'm trying to say.

02:11:31.000 I'm gonna give you the floor now. 1.00

02:11:32.000 I'm gonna shut up. 0.93

02:11:33.000 Go ahead.

02:11:35.000 Well, look, let's name some names.

02:11:38.000 Let's start with that.

02:11:39.000 And let's see what their race is and what religion they subscribe to.

02:11:45.000 But most Jews are secularists.

02:11:47.000 Who's the head of Disney?

02:11:49.000 Robert Iger and Alan Braverman.

02:11:53.000 They're Jews. 0.96

02:11:54.000 What are they doing?

02:11:55.000 Well, they get a lot of money from Larry Fink of Black Rock.

02:12:03.000 Who's into woke.

02:12:05.000 To destroy the youth. 1.00

02:12:07.000 To get them to cut off their penises and stick in uteruses. 1.00

02:12:10.000 Okay? 1.00

02:12:10.000 They're Jews. 1.00

02:12:11.000 There's two Jews.

02:12:13.000 Let me give you another Jew. 1.00

02:12:14.000 Okay?

02:12:17.000 Albert Bourla, I think his name.

02:12:20.000 Greek descent, ethnically, but Jew racially.

02:12:26.000 He is the head dude of the clutch shot. 0.98

02:12:32.000 A poison in your vein, the mRNA.

02:12:35.000 It's not a vaccine. 0.97

02:12:37.000 Is he Jew?

02:12:38.000 There's two.

02:12:39.000 Okay, medical, the Jew. 1.00

02:12:41.000 Culture, the Jew. 1.00

02:12:43.000 Disney, okay, Pfizer.

02:12:45.000 All right, he's the CEO of Pfizer.

02:12:47.000 Of course, he's a front man.

02:12:49.000 There's money behind it.

02:12:50.000 Jewish money. 0.50

02:12:53.000 And let's look at a third.

02:12:54.000 Let's look at the ADL.

02:12:58.000 The Anti-Defamation League.

02:12:59.000 I have to laugh.

02:13:01.000 Because they do everything they can to destroy me.

02:13:04.000 They can't.

02:13:05.000 I'm three steps ahead of these people because my father used to take me To the B'nai B'rith meetings when I was a little Jewish boy at the synagogue.

02:13:13.000 After every Shabbos services, my dad would take me upstairs to the big brunch, the gefilte fish, the lux and bagels, and it was a B'nai B'rith meeting.

02:13:23.000 These are the big boys.

02:13:25.000 And back then, I was told this is a multi-million dollar operation.

02:13:29.000 This is in 1957, 1958.

02:13:33.000 Now it's a multi-billion dollar operation.

02:13:35.000 The B'nai B'rith runs the ADL.

02:13:38.000 Okay, they're the umbrella group.

02:13:41.000 And what did I hear after the rabbi's sermon when we went upstairs?

02:13:46.000 Well, this one is running firm there, this goy. 1.00

02:13:49.000 It was never a Jew in the front, it was always a goy. 1.00

02:13:54.000 And is he good for the Jews? 0.61

02:13:56.000 What will he do for us?

02:13:57.000 Okay, that was the whole thing.

02:13:59.000 Not, is he going to be good for America?

02:14:02.000 Now, there was probably about 150 Jewish men up there, businessmen.

02:14:06.000 My dad was a businessman.

02:14:07.000 And this is what I heard.

02:14:09.000 Who's going to run for governor in the next B'nai B'rith meeting?

02:14:13.000 All right, there's Goy, that's Goy. 0.92

02:14:15.000 That's what the Jews call him.

02:14:16.000 That's what they call you behind closed door, Goy.

02:14:18.000 And your wife, okay, or anyone's wife who's not Jewish, she's a shiksa. 0.99

02:14:23.000 I grew up in this, Alex.

02:14:25.000 Okay, now, who's going to be the governor?

02:14:27.000 Who's going to do the best for us?

02:14:31.000 Not for America! 0.53

02:14:33.000 Now, this is my whole orientation that I grew up in, and my father wanted to expose me to this so I could understand a wider picture.

02:14:44.000 You want to look at a wider picture.

02:14:46.000 Now, I'm always going to go back to this, and it's going in one ear after the other, not with you, but with others.

02:14:53.000 Give me a control of the nation's money and I care not who makes its laws.

02:14:58.000 America lost its sovereignty in 1913 when the Jews from Europe, headed by Paul Warburg and his brother Max Warburg, who were connected to The Rothschild dynasty, those are the real big boys, and they took over our money printing. 0.99

02:15:18.000 And you, Andrew Jackson, wanted nothing to do with it.

02:15:21.000 He's the real hero.

02:15:22.000 Are we going to have another Andrew Jackson?

02:15:24.000 You're not going to get into it with Trump, because he is tied into Jewish money with all his real estate. 0.89

02:15:30.000 Let me ask you this.

02:15:33.000 Let me ask you this.

02:15:34.000 Trump's daughter is married to a Jew, so he's got Jewish children.

02:15:38.000 Well, she's a Jew because his first wife is a Jew, Alex. 0.92

02:15:41.000 I know this because she never went through the Mikvah service.

02:15:45.000 See, every Goyish girl who wants to convert to Judaism to marry a Jewish boy, Jared, has to go through the Mikvah. 0.94

02:15:51.000 These are something I understand.

02:15:53.000 Nobody else does.

02:15:54.000 She never did.

02:15:55.000 She didn't have to because Ivana is a Jew. 1.00

02:15:58.000 You look at her face, we all know!

02:16:00.000 Well, well, here's what I, here's what I just, here's what I just... They look at my face.

02:16:04.000 We know who, we know each other.

02:16:06.000 Okay?

02:16:06.000 She never went through the mikveh.

02:16:08.000 She's already a Jew, because Jews trace their race. 0.98

02:16:12.000 And the race is everything to the mother. 0.97

02:16:13.000 It's everything.

02:16:14.000 To the mother.

02:16:15.000 Okay?

02:16:17.000 Which genetically is accurate, because that's the mitochondrial DNA passed on.

02:16:20.000 The males only get one copy, the females get two. 0.78

02:16:22.000 Well, it never used to be, biblically speaking, if you want to go back to the Bible, when you brought up the Bible, Judaism today is not Judaism of the Old Testament!

02:16:29.000 Well, if you want to get into that, we can't.

02:16:31.000 I don't think people should hear... Well, you brought it up.

02:16:33.000 You brought it up about that.

02:16:35.000 No, I didn't.

02:16:35.000 I was just... Let me show you something.

02:16:38.000 Let me show you something.

02:16:40.000 Warren Buffett donation, top 2023 list of largest charitables.

02:16:45.000 This is Yahoo News, and it says he gave it to radical racial justice groups.

02:16:51.000 So is Warren Buffett Jewish?

02:16:53.000 Because he's funding the transgenderism, he's funding the race-baiting. 1.00

02:16:58.000 I mean, you know, MI6 basically developed the Tabistock Institute, the transgenderism. 1.00

02:17:04.000 I'm not an apologist for Jews.

02:17:05.000 I'm not saying powerful Jews aren't promoting it. 0.97

02:17:07.000 I mean, what you said is true, but is Warren Buffett Jewish?

02:17:09.000 He's a useful boy.

02:17:11.000 He's a useful boy.

02:17:11.000 He's what?

02:17:12.000 That's what we would call him growing up.

02:17:15.000 That's what my dad would call him.

02:17:16.000 He's a useful boy.

02:17:18.000 See, when Jesus said the synagogue of Satan, he is talking collective.

02:17:23.000 Jews operate as a collective.

02:17:27.000 You want to find out how many Jewish organizations there are?

02:17:30.000 You can't count them!

02:17:32.000 There's probably a thousand of them, because Jews operate as a collective.

02:17:37.000 Yeah, the Jewish guy next door, I see him all the time, he's a real nice guy, but he will never, never condemn the Pharisees for crucifying our Lord, God, and Savior.

02:17:47.000 He will never do that!

02:17:49.000 And he will continue to send all his money to the AIPAC, to the ADL, to the World Zionist Organization of America.

02:17:55.000 He'll continue doing it.

02:17:56.000 And it doesn't matter if Netanyahu's in or Bennett's in.

02:18:00.000 It doesn't matter.

02:18:02.000 Okay, so let me ask you this.

02:18:04.000 We see basically soft civil war in Israel.

02:18:07.000 The Supreme Court, with what it's doing, Netanyahu, 15% support Netanyahu.

02:18:13.000 I mean, I don't see some unified collective in Israel.

02:18:15.000 I see one of the most divided groups.

02:18:17.000 Of course it's unified.

02:18:18.000 It's a military dictatorship.

02:18:20.000 My dad told us this, just figured it out.

02:18:22.000 It started with the terrorism, the Jabotinsky Group, okay, the Irgan, and the Stern Group, and it started getting... The bombing of the Hinden Hotel, all that.

02:18:30.000 I'm asking now.

02:18:31.000 Israel used their people as guinea pigs. 0.75

02:18:34.000 We have high deaths from a shot there. 0.90

02:18:36.000 So if the shot is some Jewish conspiracy to kill people, why are Jews dying from the cloth shot as well? 0.56

02:18:42.000 Okay, let me just finish another statement. 0.95

02:18:46.000 Israel is a military dictatorship. 0.60

02:18:48.000 It morphed into the Haganah.

02:18:51.000 The military, if anybody knows journalism, they would say, yes, Brother Katner, you are right, it's a military dictatorship, because even HoloRats, they're under military censorship.

02:19:04.000 So let's just start there.

02:19:04.000 Okay?

02:19:06.000 Why the military?

02:19:07.000 The military, yes, you're under military censorship.

02:19:09.000 So I don't care if it's Netanyahu or Bennett or Rabin or Sharon, it doesn't matter.

02:19:16.000 So what's the fight about?

02:19:18.000 If the Jews are a perfect collective, isn't it true that secular Jews are persecuting Orthodox Jews in Israel?

02:19:24.000 I mean, I'm just, come on, I see major...

02:19:26.000 Are you kidding?

02:19:27.000 You got Ashkenazi Jews, you got Sephardic Jews, you got all this?

02:19:32.000 And the government is funding, supporting them in dividing up the West Bank into fragments to help these settlers take over that land. 0.68

02:19:42.000 Sometimes I get very frustrated because I knew this stuff from a child.

02:19:46.000 Now I decided in 2007, the gig is up.

02:19:50.000 A Jew from the inside is now going to tell I'm their own worst enemy. 1.00

02:19:54.000 Hey, why don't you stop there? 0.64

02:19:55.000 Why don't you stop there?

02:19:56.000 The reason I got you on is I watch your videos because I want to see what all sides are thinking.

02:20:00.000 About your, first you become a Jew for Jesus, and then you find Orthodox, you go in there, you feel the different presence, another plane, like you were at a higher level, you know, like King David was talking about. 0.52

02:20:13.000 Yeah.

02:20:14.000 Spend a few minutes talking about your conversion to Christianity.

02:20:19.000 Okay.

02:20:20.000 It's important because it's part of my whole worldview.

02:20:22.000 It absolutely is.

02:20:23.000 I grew up in Judaism.

02:20:27.000 Now, Our Shabbos teacher, we had a man teaching it, his emphasis was on Bible and Talmud, both, and a little bit of Kabbalah.

02:20:38.000 Okay, so I was exposed to it all.

02:20:40.000 Now, in our Bar Mitzvah class, they decided to give it to Mrs. Schechter because she knew all the world religions.

02:20:46.000 Most Jews don't, they couldn't care less, but she did. 0.98

02:20:49.000 So she goes through our Bar Mitzvah class, I'm a 12 year old Jewish boy, I was a very sensitive boy, very quiet kind of a boy, and she's telling us about Baha'i, Zen, we never heard of these things in 1962.

02:21:05.000 Now she gets to talk about Christianity, and I wanted to learn, because I'm a smart boy then, let's learn about what formed Western Civilization, and I knew it was Christianity.

02:21:13.000 She wouldn't teach it! 0.89

02:21:14.000 She says, it was invented by a Self-hating Jew. 1.00

02:21:19.000 I'm a self-hating Jew, you know, now. 0.98

02:21:21.000 Okay, somehow I'm a self-hating Jew. 0.97

02:21:23.000 Okay. 0.76

02:21:24.000 Named Saul, and he hated his Jewishness so much that he changed his name to the Goetia name.

02:21:32.000 That's how Jews talk to each other.

02:21:33.000 Paul. 0.96

02:21:34.000 And besides, she says he was a manic-depressant.

02:21:37.000 Now, imagine in 1962 hearing this word, manic-depressant.

02:21:42.000 I'm 12 years old.

02:21:44.000 It didn't exist, but Mr. Schechter knew the word.

02:21:46.000 So I go home to my dad, and I say, what is a manic-depressant?

02:21:51.000 He says, I don't know.

02:21:52.000 Where'd you hear this word?

02:21:54.000 Mr. Schechter says that Saul, who hated himself, changed his name to Paul.

02:22:00.000 Okay?

02:22:01.000 I'm a 12-year-old kid.

02:22:02.000 He says, I don't know what you're talking about.

02:22:05.000 I said, she won't teach Christianity. 0.98

02:22:06.000 I want to learn about it.

02:22:07.000 My dad says, you were born a Jew? 0.99

02:22:09.000 You will die a Jew. 1.00

02:22:10.000 End of story. 1.00

02:22:11.000 Okay, that's my dad.

02:22:12.000 Yeah, he was anti-Zionist, but racially and religious?

02:22:16.000 Oh man, powerful Jew. 1.00

02:22:19.000 I said to myself, I'm going to learn about this.

02:22:21.000 So I see the rabbi.

02:22:22.000 Actually, the next day I'm visiting my grandmother at the Jewish Home and Hospital for the Aged.

02:22:27.000 She had some minor operation or something.

02:22:29.000 There's the rabbi walking out the elevator.

02:22:32.000 I'm walking in, the nice shiny wax floor, sterilized everything.

02:22:36.000 I said, Rabbi, Mrs. Schechter won't teach us about Jesus Christ.

02:22:40.000 He spits!

02:22:43.000 Right on the floor, and he used the curse word, the Jewish word. 0.99

02:22:45.000 May his name be blotted out forever. 0.98

02:22:47.000 Okay? 0.94

02:22:48.000 And he spit it again.

02:22:49.000 He says, don't you ever use that word unless you use it as I did, which is a curse word.

02:22:55.000 Well, I tell people, they ask me, how did you come to Christ?

02:22:58.000 I said, through my rabbi.

02:22:59.000 Oh, your rabbi believed?

02:23:00.000 No, he spit.

02:23:01.000 Because I thought, as a Jewish kid with a reaction like that, it must be true. 1.00

02:23:07.000 Now, we were forbidden to read the New Testament.

02:23:09.000 This was totally Off-limits, no-go zone!

02:23:14.000 So now I'm in California, I started to study music, I'm an accomplished pianist and composer and all that stuff, okay, and I decided I'm going to buy a New Testament.

02:23:24.000 I did!

02:23:25.000 I read the first chapter of Matthew and I was convinced, just from the genealogies, because we knew, with my Jewish education, which was so solid, that the genealogies were lost in 125 AD, that Hadrian destroyed them!

02:23:40.000 At the Second Revolt under Bacopa.

02:23:44.000 And I see these genealogies listed so specifically.

02:23:47.000 I said, yeah, he's the Messiah.

02:23:50.000 That convinced me.

02:23:51.000 Who reads Matthew Chapter 1 and gets convinced that Jesus is the Messiah?

02:23:54.000 A little Jewish boy like me who's got a good year to cook, okay?

02:23:59.000 That's how I came to Christ.

02:24:03.000 And I was with the Jews for Jesus Movement.

02:24:05.000 I handed out the booklets with them and all that.

02:24:08.000 And I knew all the time that there was something missing in Judaism.

02:24:13.000 So I joined forces with them, but not full-time.

02:24:16.000 Because I wanted to make money.

02:24:18.000 I was a good Jewish boy.

02:24:19.000 I wanted to make money.

02:24:20.000 And I became a salesman.

02:24:21.000 But I would hand out booklets with them.

02:24:24.000 Jesus made me kosher. 0.87

02:24:25.000 If you don't like being born, try being born again.

02:24:27.000 Let me stop you again. 0.84

02:24:28.000 Because I want you to continue your story. 0.82

02:24:32.000 Only Jews want to make money. 1.00

02:24:35.000 I mean, this is just... Come on, man. 0.74

02:24:36.000 I don't say that.

02:24:37.000 You say you're not... Listen, here's my deal.

02:24:39.000 Here's the deal.

02:24:40.000 I'm trying to have a little sense of humor.

02:24:42.000 I cannot... I cannot... I cannot sit there and say one group of people... Let me ask you this.

02:24:49.000 This is a serious question.

02:24:50.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:24:52.000 I understand.

02:24:53.000 It's like Eleanor is what said, Jews shouldn't apologize for being successful, okay? 0.99

02:24:58.000 The point is... I never said that.

02:25:00.000 I said, Alan Dershowitz said it.

02:25:02.000 Guys, it's on Twitter, it's on X, pull it up.

02:25:04.000 Alan Dershowitz says Jews should never apologize for being successful.

02:25:07.000 I'm saying nobody... Here's the deal, here's the deal.

02:25:09.000 I've been successful with my listeners supporting me, and I don't have any groups, not the CIA, not the FBI, not the ADL, tell me what to do.

02:25:17.000 Okay?

02:25:18.000 So I know damn well my audience and myself built this operation.

02:25:21.000 So I'm just tired of apportioning magical power to Jews, and then if I slip on a banana peel tonight, then I'm gonna... 0.99

02:25:29.000 Money buys politicians.

02:25:32.000 Answer my question.

02:25:32.000 So you think only Jews like money?

02:25:36.000 I never said that.

02:25:38.000 You keep saying the Jews.

02:25:41.000 I was a good Jewish boy.

02:25:42.000 I wanted money.

02:25:43.000 It's one thing to make money.

02:25:45.000 It's another thing to print money out of thin air.

02:25:49.000 You and I would be counterfeits.

02:25:51.000 If we did that, OK?

02:25:53.000 That's where I distinguish it.

02:25:55.000 Yes, make money.

02:25:56.000 Yes, sell all your vitamins that you can.

02:25:58.000 I want you to make a lot of money.

02:25:59.000 It's important because you're doing a good job and trying to deal with the border.

02:26:04.000 Epstein's a lost cause.

02:26:05.000 Forget it, Alex.

02:26:06.000 No one's going to go to jail.

02:26:07.000 OK, they put the girl in jail. 1.00

02:26:09.000 That's it.

02:26:10.000 Yeah, let me ask about Epstein.

02:26:11.000 I think that was on my list.

02:26:13.000 Out of nothing!

02:26:14.000 And who can use that money to protect Menendez?

02:26:18.000 He will never go to jail.

02:26:19.000 Hunter Biden will never go to jail.

02:26:21.000 Let me ask you this.

02:26:21.000 Biden will never go to jail.

02:26:22.000 What do you make of the BRICS?

02:26:23.000 What do you make of the BRICS with other groups trying to issue the money?

02:26:28.000 It's just starting.

02:26:28.000 They want to develop their own SWIFT.

02:26:31.000 But I guarantee you, China, which is a large part of BRICS, is still in the SWIFT system.

02:26:36.000 They have to be.

02:26:37.000 They make all our products, Maytag.

02:26:41.000 Cooper tires, Nike shoes.

02:26:44.000 So let me ask you this.

02:26:46.000 They have to be in the Jewish system. 1.00

02:26:49.000 So China is not the enemy.

02:26:52.000 I know.

02:26:53.000 Nobody's stopping you saying Jewish system over and over again, but there was a fetishized deal.

02:26:57.000 When I have Kanye in here, they just say it over and over again.

02:27:01.000 I want to talk about topics.

02:27:03.000 I know you said that that's the source of all.

02:27:04.000 We understand what you're saying.

02:27:06.000 Let me ask you a big... Then we have to look at the players.

02:27:10.000 Let me ask you this.

02:27:12.000 I want to create a system where it's based on meritocracy and what you produce, like Martin Luther King Jr.

02:27:17.000 said.

02:27:19.000 Because I go to a restaurant because the food's good, not because Chinese own or black people or Jews or, you know, hillbillies or whatever.

02:27:25.000 Let me ask you this.

02:27:26.000 How do you see the world divided right now?

02:27:28.000 What do you think is about to happen?

02:27:29.000 We can see that the world is going to a major tumultuous period.

02:27:33.000 Looks to me like globalist powers are in trouble.

02:27:35.000 Do you agree with that?

02:27:36.000 Do you disagree?

02:27:38.000 Let me ask you, from your perspective, who runs things, how is things going for the ruling class?

02:27:44.000 So far, it's going quite well.

02:27:46.000 Now, they got rid of somebody who wanted to stop it.

02:27:48.000 His name was Saddam Hussein, because he wanted to coin his own money. 0.69

02:27:52.000 They got rid of him.

02:27:54.000 Gaddafi wanted to start the African Dinar.

02:27:57.000 That's right.

02:27:58.000 Because these fellas finally got on to it that the money is what controls. 0.83

02:28:01.000 Now the one who knows this is Vladimir Putin.

02:28:04.000 By the way, I'm going to stop you again.

02:28:05.000 I'm going to stop you again because you read my mind.

02:28:07.000 The globalists, whoever you say runs it, go after anybody trying to create their own monetary system.

02:28:12.000 Gaddafi, Saddam, you're right. 0.86

02:28:14.000 They always start a war.

02:28:15.000 So are you expecting a war to start over?

02:28:18.000 They can't get rid of Vladimir Putin. 0.95

02:28:20.000 They would love to, they're using Ukraine boys, these poor Christian boys, to get rid of Vladimir Putin, because they've got this crazy woman who was born Noodleman, her name is Victoria Noodle, Noodle, uh, Newland now. 0.98

02:28:37.000 Newland, yeah. 0.95

02:28:38.000 Yeah, a Goyish name, that's Goyish, Newland.

02:28:41.000 She was born a noodle man, okay? 1.00

02:28:43.000 Because I know this.

02:28:44.000 We all know this, okay?

02:28:46.000 She's the one that wants to destroy Putin. 0.88

02:28:48.000 Jews hate Russia because Russia is now revitalizing what is known in common parlance the Byzantine Empire. 0.95

02:28:59.000 By the way, stop there.

02:29:01.000 It's true that he's revitalized the Byzantine Empire, and it is true that Trotsky was kicked out by Stalin, and so that's where the neocon beef comes from.

02:29:09.000 Keep going.

02:29:11.000 Okay, so Putin is the main archenemy now to the Jews. 0.58

02:29:15.000 Not China. 0.95

02:29:16.000 They're in the system.

02:29:18.000 So what Putin has done, he has loaded up in gold.

02:29:24.000 He is the main motivator of BRICS.

02:29:27.000 I think he's now the president.

02:29:28.000 He wants to start a secretariat, too.

02:29:30.000 And he's bringing in Saudi Arabia.

02:29:32.000 Iran, I think, is now in. 0.99

02:29:34.000 Saudi Arabia officially joined today.

02:29:37.000 Okay, so I'm pretty much on top of things.

02:29:39.000 I think Iran is already in. 0.98

02:29:42.000 But it's just in their nascent state.

02:29:45.000 They want to create their own SWIFT, which is transfer of money from one trading group to another trading group, or from one nation to another trading group.

02:29:54.000 They want to start their own currency exchange, their own letters of credit.

02:29:58.000 They want to create their own system.

02:30:00.000 But this is going to take time.

02:30:01.000 It's not going to happen tomorrow.

02:30:02.000 It's not going to happen in 2025.

02:30:05.000 Putin looks at the long range.

02:30:07.000 That's how he's operating his military operation in Ukraine.

02:30:11.000 Not to just go in and destroy and destroy.

02:30:13.000 He's looking at the long range of attrition.

02:30:16.000 He's a very clever man.

02:30:17.000 I know people in my Orthodox Church who know him personally.

02:30:22.000 And they tell me things that no one else is going to know about him.

02:30:25.000 I know how he operates.

02:30:27.000 So he is in it for the long term.

02:30:30.000 Now, 2024 may be a lousy year for us.

02:30:34.000 Alex, and I include you with us.

02:30:36.000 I do.

02:30:37.000 OK, because you're fighting for a sovereign America.

02:30:41.000 And I am, too.

02:30:43.000 But the difference between you and me is I name the names who are the real enemies who are really controlling these things.

02:30:49.000 Because this is the whole Jewish mind I grew up with. 0.99

02:30:53.000 How are we going to try to control the goyim? 1.00

02:30:55.000 Because the Jews look upon the goyim as stupid! 1.00

02:30:59.000 If I ever said something as a Jewish kid that was stupid, Omyopoulos would say, you have a goyim she'll cook. 1.00

02:31:04.000 Which means you think like a goy. 1.00

02:31:06.000 Okay, so this is the whole thing of the Jews. 0.94

02:31:08.000 We have to control the goyim. 1.00

02:31:10.000 So they don't like an Alex Jones who comes out and says, hey, this is what's going on.

02:31:14.000 This is what Epstein's doing.

02:31:16.000 It was a sting operation.

02:31:17.000 They don't want to hear that.

02:31:18.000 And they certainly don't want me to hear me calling out these names.

02:31:22.000 So the globalist picture still looks good for 2024.

02:31:26.000 I don't see it getting any better.

02:31:28.000 But we gotta go to break.

02:31:30.000 We're gonna come back.

02:31:32.000 People can find you.

02:31:34.000 What's the best place for people to find you?

02:31:35.000 We'll do 50 more minutes, but where do people find your reports?

02:31:39.000 Real Drew News.

02:31:40.000 I do videos.

02:31:41.000 State-of-the-art videos.

02:31:42.000 My graphics will blow people away.

02:31:46.000 I've seen them.

02:31:47.000 I just want to open a dialogue with everybody and listeners.

02:31:50.000 Alex, I want to tell you, they banned Bible with Brother.

02:31:54.000 I wanted to just do the Bible.

02:31:56.000 I was reaching the kids, 16, 17, 18.

02:31:59.000 Hold on, we gotta go to break.

02:32:00.000 We gotta go to break.

02:32:01.000 And speaking of making money, I gotta make money to fund this operation, the crew, the satellites, the legal stuff.

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02:32:07.000 It's coming after Trump, too.

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02:32:57.000 We're going to come back with a couple more segments with Brother Nathaniel Kaepner.

02:33:03.000 Stay with us.

02:33:04.000 Well, I'm a big student of history, so I know every group, from the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Romans, the Greeks, to the Babylonians, to the Huns, to the Chin, all believe they were the master race. 0.92

02:33:17.000 And yeah, you can read the Old Testament, and you can see God saying, go in and wipe all these ribs out.

02:33:23.000 I don't think Kepner's going to say that was a false teaching, and then Netanyahu quotes it.

02:33:28.000 But what we cannot deny And so I'm not somebody that just hates success outright, and just say Jews are evil, because then why is our world of the Abrahamic religion going back to that? 0.54

02:33:43.000 And I understand the Babylonian captivity and all that stuff.

02:33:46.000 I've studied it.

02:33:47.000 But I just think that, let me ask you this one at the time we have, and we'll have you back, because I know you're a historian and I want to pick your brain.

02:33:56.000 Some stations join us in a few minutes.

02:33:57.000 We've got to go to break again in a second for 60 seconds, but let me ask you this.

02:34:01.000 When we pull back, I see the transhumanists as just this evil force that's inhabiting people of every color, religion, you name it. 1.00

02:34:08.000 I just want a big tent where we can get Jews and everybody else, you know, regardless of what group they came out of, to see an open tent for team humanity and a pro-human future that Elon Musk and I talked about a few weeks ago.

02:34:21.000 And I just think that To sit there and deny that so much of... because people hate this on the anti-Jew side.

02:34:27.000 Western civilization, you can say what you want, but it's been intricately entwined with Jews. 1.00

02:34:35.000 And so, you know, are you saying... do you believe the Khazarian thing?

02:34:38.000 That Ashkenazi aren't Jews? 0.99

02:34:40.000 Or is it the Babylonian captivity?

02:34:41.000 Or Sephardic's the real Jews? 1.00

02:34:43.000 Are you saying they're all Jews?

02:34:44.000 I mean, there's a lot of questions.

02:34:46.000 We laughed at the Khazar theory as kids. 0.99

02:34:48.000 This was a theory by some scholar, it was made popular by Arthur Kessler, called the Thirteenth Tribe, to get Jews off the hook for deicide.

02:34:58.000 So it wasn't Jews today, because everyone's a Khazar, they didn't crucify Christ as a collective. 0.99

02:35:06.000 So, it's just a stupid Kazarian myth. 0.99

02:35:09.000 It's totally ahistorical. 1.00

02:35:11.000 No historian worth his word.

02:35:13.000 If Jews are a collective... Hold on, hold on, hold on. 1.00

02:35:17.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:35:18.000 If Jews are a collective, I'm asking you a question. 1.00

02:35:20.000 I'm asking... Oh yeah.

02:35:22.000 Oh yeah.

02:35:23.000 Okay, hold on, hold on.

02:35:24.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:35:25.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:35:26.000 Is it the Sanhedrin?

02:35:27.000 And is the Sanhedrin secretly operating? 0.88

02:35:31.000 Jews don't need a Sanhedrin.

02:35:33.000 They don't need it. 0.99

02:35:34.000 It's called the Synagogue of Satan.

02:35:36.000 They're all connected to it through money, through culture, for the destruction of Christian mores. 0.99

02:35:42.000 Now, you want to bring out transhumanism, transgenderism, the main money makers are Jewish surgeons. 0.99

02:35:48.000 The main pushers of transgenderism are those who own the media. 0.99

02:35:54.000 I used to live near the owner of CBS.

02:35:57.000 His name was Murray Rothstein.

02:36:00.000 He changed his name to Sumner Redstone like he's some blue-blooded Yankee?

02:36:06.000 We laughed at him.

02:36:08.000 But the goyim don't know. 1.00

02:36:10.000 And he started this MTV to destroy the youth.

02:36:13.000 Now I wanted to just talk briefly about my Bible with Brother.

02:36:17.000 I decided I'm gonna just do Bible with Brother on YouTube.

02:36:20.000 I'm not gonna do any politics.

02:36:22.000 But I wanted to be really cool and I wanted to reach the youth.

02:36:26.000 I wasn't interested in preaching to the choir.

02:36:28.000 Okay, now what happens?

02:36:30.000 I get 3,000 or 4,000 comments from kids.

02:36:34.000 You don't think the kids don't know who's going to comment section?

02:36:37.000 They have a profile on everybody on YouTube.

02:36:39.000 Okay, everybody.

02:36:40.000 They see that and all of a sudden, after I get a million views per month, Shut me down!

02:36:47.000 Done!

02:36:49.000 For what?

02:36:50.000 I thought this must be an algorithm, because I'm using Biblical language, maybe they thought it was political language, they would not tell me.

02:36:57.000 Now they got some Hindu that take place of Wachitsky, okay? 1.00

02:37:02.000 Wachitsky still runs it.

02:37:03.000 They put some brown-skinned Hindu on, like Ravi Shankar on Google. 0.87

02:37:08.000 I know who owns it!

02:37:10.000 It wasn't Larry Rabinowitz, who changed his name to Bryn, and it wasn't Sergey Rabinowitz, and it wasn't Larry Page, there were two boys at Stanford, and someone from the Mossad who is connected with the CIA, because they are interlinked, All right, it's all exhausting.

02:37:28.000 We'll be back in 60 seconds.

02:37:29.000 where they didn't need him anymore, they got rid of him.

02:37:32.000 So I know who got rid of Bible with Brother. 0.99

02:37:34.000 It wasn't the Hindu, okay, the brown-skinned dude, the window dressing. 1.00

02:37:37.000 I knew who it was.

02:37:39.000 It was Susan Wyschynski and the tribe, the synagogue of Satan, the collective. 0.85

02:37:44.000 All right, it's all exhausting.

02:37:48.000 We'll be back in 60 seconds.

02:37:50.000 Well, you might not make it back.

02:37:55.000 katendallyshow.com Coming up, Kate Dowling, brother to Daniel Kavner, is our guest right now, and I wanted to get him up to have an open discussion about what's happening.

02:38:05.000 We've got about 10 minutes, we've got a break, and the next guest host takes over at Owen Troyer in about 53 minutes from now with The War Room, 3 p.m.

02:38:12.000 Central, and fullwords.com forward slash show.

02:38:17.000 How do you see this election going?

02:38:21.000 And you're saying it's going to be a rough year.

02:38:22.000 We're ten months out.

02:38:24.000 You seem like a heady guy.

02:38:27.000 What do you think is going to happen?

02:38:29.000 Well, it'll be rigged.

02:38:31.000 It's either rigged at the ballot box, or it's going to be rigged at the White House.

02:38:35.000 So either way, it's going to be rigged.

02:38:37.000 Now, Vivek's got some great things.

02:38:39.000 He's never going to get in.

02:38:40.000 We know that.

02:38:40.000 They're not going to let some Hindu in.

02:38:42.000 That's not going to happen, okay?

02:38:44.000 So whoever gets in, they may allow Trump to get in.

02:38:47.000 They may allow that.

02:38:49.000 Okay, but you see, with Trump, it's not that the Jews hate Trump.

02:38:55.000 They don't.

02:38:56.000 They fear his followers.

02:38:58.000 They see with them the American flags, okay?

02:39:02.000 USA.

02:39:03.000 This is nationalism, okay?

02:39:05.000 The meme.

02:39:07.000 Nationalism.

02:39:08.000 Where there's nationalism, the Jew sinks down, okay? 0.99

02:39:12.000 So it's not Trump that the Jews hate and try to destroy. 0.96

02:39:16.000 They despise, they fear, his followers, because those are the white Christians, the patriots, who in a drop of a dime can turn against Israel and say, hey, why are there so many Jews running everything? 0.96

02:39:35.000 Why are the Jews able to put this money out of thin air? 0.98

02:39:40.000 Why are the Jews pushing Woke? 1.00

02:39:42.000 Why is the media pushing transgenderism and homosexuality? 0.98

02:39:47.000 Why are the Jews putting all these lesbians in charge of a marriage? 1.00

02:39:50.000 You're saying they fear the Great Awakening. 0.98

02:39:53.000 So let me ask you this.

02:39:54.000 We've got a little bit of time here.

02:39:55.000 They fear the people of the Great Awakening.

02:39:58.000 I don't go into abstracts.

02:39:59.000 Jews don't go into abstracts. 0.85

02:40:00.000 That's not what Jews do. 0.99

02:40:02.000 They go, who are the people?

02:40:04.000 Is there a large following?

02:40:05.000 They see USA!

02:40:07.000 USA!

02:40:08.000 Flags!

02:40:09.000 White faces! 0.98

02:40:10.000 Christianity!

02:40:11.000 God bless America!

02:40:12.000 Merry Christmas!

02:40:14.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

02:40:15.000 We've got to get rid of this guy.

02:40:17.000 Ivec, they could care less about him. 0.97

02:40:19.000 He's nothing.

02:40:20.000 Okay?

02:40:21.000 Trump is the one they're scared of.

02:40:24.000 You know, I've sat here and debated a lot of the people.

02:40:28.000 Can I just say something real quick?

02:40:30.000 I've sat here and I've debated some of the most prominent names that obsess on Jews all day.

02:40:34.000 And you've not done this, so I think you're being fair, but they always describe that I'm controlled by Jews.

02:40:39.000 I'm controlled by me.

02:40:41.000 I'm in charge of all this.

02:40:42.000 I really believe in what I'm doing.

02:40:44.000 I'm trying to create unity around ideas that transcend all this.

02:40:50.000 You became a Christian, and you, you, you know, and I believe you're right about, you know, Christ is obviously the Messiah, you can feel it, you can see it, it's incredible.

02:40:58.000 Any demonic attacks, Christ's name is all powerful, it's real.

02:41:01.000 People I know that aren't even Christian get attacked spiritually, they ask for God's protection, it happens.

02:41:06.000 But...

02:41:08.000 Again, it's baby out with the bathwater.

02:41:10.000 Why don't we have an outreach to everybody, the Hindus, the Jews, the Muslims, everybody, because I pull back here and I see the left, the universities, Google, the CIA backing Islam right now, and I see this weird right-wing anti-Jew alliance with Islam attacking Israel, and you say, you know, what if Israel went away today?

02:41:31.000 That's a tiny little country.

02:41:32.000 What would that do?

02:41:34.000 I see it as a cop-out.

02:41:35.000 I think the hearts of men are desperately wicked, as the Bible says.

02:41:39.000 And I don't think Jews have a monopoly.

02:41:42.000 And I don't think they're immune from it either.

02:41:44.000 But I really don't prescribe and ascribe mythical powers.

02:41:50.000 I think you're an interesting guy.

02:41:50.000 I don't prescribe mythical powers.

02:41:52.000 Captain, you're very likable.

02:41:54.000 I mean, like Larry David, super funny, likable.

02:41:57.000 I mean, I'll be point blank.

02:41:58.000 I think Jews are pretty funny, likable people.

02:42:00.000 He's eating on a picture of Jesus Christ! 0.99

02:42:02.000 That's despicable! 0.95

02:42:04.000 Now, there's no such thing as a good Jew. 1.00

02:42:06.000 It's oxymoron.

02:42:07.000 Because if you identify as a Jew, you identify with the Christ crucifiers. 0.98

02:42:12.000 You identify that Christ is not the Messiah.

02:42:14.000 That's the spirit of Antichrist.

02:42:16.000 St.

02:42:16.000 John said it twice.

02:42:17.000 Whosoever denies that Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, has come in the flesh, incarnate, is of the spirit of Antichrist.

02:42:23.000 Let me ask you this.

02:42:26.000 I never got to my point.

02:42:28.000 I've had Kanye West here.

02:42:30.000 I've had them all.

02:42:31.000 And literally, I'm like, can I just finish something?

02:42:35.000 I'm like, literally, both my grandfathers were in World War II.

02:42:40.000 Both were in the European theater.

02:42:41.000 One, God bless him.

02:42:43.000 shot down and wrecked very early in his missions or he'd be dead and I wouldn't be here.

02:42:47.000 The other did his full missions and then more.

02:42:48.000 Wouldn't talk about it.

02:42:49.000 He died.

02:42:50.000 We read it all.

02:42:51.000 Out of North Africa, into Italy, into Germany. 0.75

02:42:54.000 After that, they said, "You're done with your missions.

02:42:56.000 You're now an officer in charge of the mess hall into Germany." 0.92

02:42:59.000 He was there.

02:43:00.000 He saw it.

02:43:01.000 He would barely talk about it and just piles of dead bodies everywhere.

02:43:05.000 Blackbirds eating people's eyes.

02:43:07.000 Death camps.

02:43:08.000 He saw it all. 0.99

02:43:09.000 And I tell people this thing, oh shut up, that's Jewish propaganda. 1.00

02:43:12.000 My grandfather told me that. 0.99

02:43:14.000 He saw it with his own eyeballs.

02:43:16.000 It messed him up.

02:43:18.000 And so all I'm saying is, just because you say there's some evil over here, any powerful group is going to become corrupt.

02:43:23.000 Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

02:43:26.000 Then what do you think of Adolf Hitler?

02:43:28.000 Because I think Adolf Hitler was power mad.

02:43:32.000 You could look at him. 0.67

02:43:33.000 He glowed with satanic energy.

02:43:35.000 I mean, you could just look at him.

02:43:36.000 He's powerful, but you're like, whoa, that's evil.

02:43:39.000 I mean, he exudes satanic energy.

02:43:43.000 You have the sermon.

02:43:45.000 You look at a speech of Hitler.

02:43:47.000 You look at his eyes, and you're telling me that's not Count Dracula?

02:43:53.000 I think I look at his pictures with children.

02:43:55.000 Oh my God.

02:43:55.000 That's what I do.

02:43:56.000 I look at body language.

02:43:58.000 I study body language.

02:43:59.000 I was a street commission salesman for 25 years.

02:44:01.000 I know body language.

02:44:03.000 The children love Adolf Hitler. 0.87

02:44:05.000 Now I just did.

02:44:06.000 Oh yeah, it says a lot.

02:44:07.000 I don't see any evil.

02:44:08.000 They did see any evil.

02:44:09.000 You know who can pick up evil?

02:44:10.000 Children.

02:44:11.000 Like that.

02:44:12.000 Children love me, okay?

02:44:13.000 They just look at me.

02:44:14.000 Other people, eh, children, they want to come up to me, they want to hug me, they want to talk to me, whatever, okay?

02:44:19.000 But I'm very careful I don't touch children, okay?

02:44:22.000 So I... So you think Adolf Hitler was good? 0.94

02:44:25.000 Okay, what is... I'm not saying anyone is perfectly good.

02:44:28.000 I would never say that because we're human beings, okay?

02:44:31.000 We all have shades of everything.

02:44:33.000 Now, Hitler's main concern... But he was anti-Christian.

02:44:37.000 Hitler was anti-Christian. 0.97

02:44:38.000 He was a pagan. 0.65

02:44:40.000 Okay, I'm not even going to go there.

02:44:42.000 I'm going to go with what he wanted to do for Germany, like other people want to do for their own nations. 0.76

02:44:48.000 He wanted to do something for Germany.

02:44:50.000 He saw that the Jew who controlled the press, who controlled the arts, who controlled theater, who controlled politics, the Weimar regime, okay, and who controlled the stock market, Okay? 0.94

02:45:03.000 Because his teacher was Gottfried Fetter, who I've read backward and forward many times to try to understand the economic scenario that Hitler was trying to... Yeah, no one's denying Germany got shafted in World War I, which Britain started.

02:45:18.000 Okay, now Hitler was a speaker, and they propped him up, this guy can speak well, so when he gets up, he's going to be the speaker. 0.58

02:45:26.000 I do the same thing when I do my videos.

02:45:27.000 I've got to speak, I've got to make sure people are listening.

02:45:30.000 So I don't go by what his eyes look like when he speaks, I don't go by that.

02:45:34.000 I go by what was his agenda?

02:45:36.000 What did he try to do?

02:45:37.000 Do you know there would be no Israel today if it wasn't for Hitler? 1.00

02:45:41.000 Because he established all these emigration, emigration No, I know, he supported sending Jews either to Russia or Israel. 0.91

02:45:49.000 What, you say Israel's super evil?

02:45:51.000 Hitler helped create Israel, and now he's good? 1.00

02:45:53.000 He's bad?

02:45:54.000 But he did it through the immigration that he funded, that Jews could go anywhere really, but there was a strong Zionist movement, it was called the Havara movement, that he funded, that Jews could take everything out of Germany. 0.72

02:46:06.000 What do you make of the George Soros's and like Madeleine Albright's dad that was Jewish, that helped round up Jews and sell them to Hitler? 0.58

02:46:14.000 Well, that's what he did.

02:46:15.000 That's one person.

02:46:16.000 But he also is connected to the whole Rothschild orbit of central banks, that you can create money out of thin air, as Ron Paul puts it.

02:46:27.000 He puts it very succinctly, as we can remember.

02:46:32.000 He's part of that whole system.

02:46:33.000 All right, now, Samuel Kaepner, come back on again.

02:46:36.000 I want to be back on, because we can have a talk next time.

02:46:40.000 And maybe I'll be a little calmer, OK?

02:46:42.000 This is my first shot here with you.

02:46:44.000 Don't worry, I'm always wound up too. 0.94

02:46:46.000 And the ADL says white people are inherently evil, so they've opened all this up, so I think we should hear from everybody. 0.94

02:46:52.000 And so that's where I'm at. 0.98

02:46:53.000 I mean, I agree with you, the ADL's pure evil. 1.00

02:46:55.000 I mean, look, the damn head of it looks like Nosferatu. 0.99

02:46:58.000 Listen, I appreciate the debate and the discussion. 0.99

02:47:01.000 I don't agree with a lot of what you have to say, but I think it's open for discussion.

02:47:05.000 I want to thank you for coming on and having a debate.

02:47:07.000 We'll be right back with Kate Dowling.

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02:48:27.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:48:28.000 I'm Kay Dally, your guest host.

02:48:30.000 If Alex's show isn't on fire enough today, wait until you hear about this.

02:48:36.000 The most devastating act of gutting this country since the inception of this country is about to take place this month.

02:48:44.000 And of course, the story just came to light during Christmas time so that nobody would be paying attention, of course.

02:48:50.000 Yesterday, the headlines were all about who leads Harvard.

02:48:53.000 No real concern to America, right?

02:48:55.000 Who cares?

02:48:56.000 Who cares who takes the reins at Harvard? 0.75

02:48:58.000 I could care about anything less.

02:49:01.000 The mainstream media wants you to focus on absolutely ridiculous stories while the gutting of America, the biggest land grab in America, is about to take place in this great land, selling off our public land and then private to the biggest bidders like BlackRock or any foreign country, any foreign interest.

02:49:20.000 And on the Alex Jones Show today, to explain the details and how to stop this from happening is Utah State Treasurer Marlo Oaks.

02:49:27.000 He's one of the few speaking out on this.

02:49:29.000 You haven't exactly heard from any senators or congressmen out there, have you?

02:49:34.000 Ringing the alarm bells on this.

02:49:36.000 But several state treasurers from several different states are speaking out about this and trying to let the American people know about a vote that is coming up and was actually supposed to take place yesterday.

02:49:49.000 But he'll explain this.

02:49:50.000 I got delayed a few weeks because of the outcry.

02:49:53.000 Mainstream media?

02:49:54.000 Completely silent.

02:49:55.000 Of course.

02:49:56.000 Completely silent.

02:49:57.000 So Marlo Oaks is Utah's 26th state treasurer.

02:50:01.000 He was appointed in July 2021 and then elected in November 2022.

02:50:06.000 And Marlo spent most of his career in money management and is one of the only two state treasurers with institutional investment management experience.

02:50:14.000 And because of his knowledge in the capital markets, he's the leading national charge to protect economic freedoms.

02:50:19.000 We're about to find out what's going to happen in this country that will change the trajectory of this country deeply.

02:50:26.000 Marlo, welcome.

02:50:27.000 How are you?

02:50:28.000 Good.

02:50:29.000 Thanks for having me on, Kate.

02:50:31.000 This is such a huge thing.

02:50:33.000 It's such a huge topic.

02:50:35.000 And if today's show wasn't hot enough, I hope people really take this in what you're about to say and really listen.

02:50:43.000 And please explain the details on this.

02:50:45.000 You started sounding the alarm bells probably a month and a half ago.

02:50:50.000 And this is insane.

02:50:54.000 Can you please explain what's going on with the SEC?

02:50:56.000 Yes.

02:50:57.000 So back in September, September 27th, the New York Stock Exchange went to the Securities and Exchange Commission and said, we need a new rule that will allow us to list a company, a type of company whose purpose isn't to create economic profit, but is to generate ecosystem services.

02:51:18.000 And the reason they had to go to the SEC for that is because it contemplates an entirely different kind of accounting system.

02:51:26.000 So our GAAP accounting standards, the generally accepted accounting principles that are used in this country, are based on economic activity of generating profit.

02:51:36.000 It's very objective.

02:51:39.000 And this new accounting system is based on the United Nations essentially trying to place value on Mother Nature.

02:51:49.000 So what are ecosystem services?

02:51:50.000 That includes things like clean air, water supply, flood protection, productive soils for agriculture, climate stability, habitat for wildlife.

02:52:02.000 We are now these natural asset companies would manage those kinds of things and trying to maximize those instead of creating economic value.

02:52:13.000 And in fact, because the natural asset company's purpose is sustainability, it would not allow unsustainable activity to take place on the land.

02:52:23.000 And that includes things like mineral extraction.

02:52:27.000 Grazing, oil extraction, even certain types of recreation that happens on land.

02:52:34.000 And so it also would impact not just private land, but public land.

02:52:41.000 It could be federal or state.

02:52:43.000 And so we're talking about a massive amount of land that could be essentially locked up from extracting natural resources in this country.

02:52:53.000 And so it's very simple, it would be very easy to, for a natural asset company to look at land

02:53:02.000 that has been identified with large amounts of natural resources,

02:53:07.000 and then that natural asset company goes out and either attempts to secure the land itself

02:53:13.000 or manage the land.

02:53:16.000 And that's all it would have to do is just have the management rights to that land,

02:53:20.000 not even own the land.

02:53:21.000 And so we're really trying to segregate or differentiate between land ownership and the management of that land.

02:53:30.000 So managing that land then to not provide any economic benefit, but to increase sustainability, which is essentially letting the land sit fallow.

02:53:44.000 So we could have foreign countries want to purchase or manage, want to manage, want to come in and obtain this natural asset now, this natural asset company.

02:53:55.000 And they can take a public property, a public land here in America, and they could manage it, sit on it, make sure that nothing takes place on that land, all in the name of climate change, all in the name of Gobbledygook climate change in order to say that they are doing something on this land that's a benefit that people will buy.

02:54:15.000 People will buy that explanation.

02:54:17.000 And then basically eliminate our ability to use it, utilize it, see it, be around it, anything.

02:54:26.000 Correct?

02:54:27.000 Yes, that's right.

02:54:28.000 And so, you know, if these companies are allowed to list on the New York Stock Exchange, They would create a charter that would say, here's the purpose of this company.

02:54:38.000 And then they would raise capital from investors globally.

02:54:41.000 And that could include from sovereign wealth funds like China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc.

02:54:46.000 And use that money then to go out and attain the management rights to land across this country.

02:54:55.000 And the goal again, because it is absolutely driven by the climate crisis narrative, And also biodiversity and saving biodiversity that they could then attain the management rights to the land and not allow economic activity on it.

02:55:14.000 And initially, while there may be some recreational opportunities over time, it's very easy to see a movement toward very restricted recreational opportunities and essentially turning these lands into essentially like our national parks where it's difficult to To access them, you have to get a permit in some cases, and really ratchets down the use of our land across the country.

02:55:43.000 National parks, state parks, mineral rich areas, all kinds of farming, grazing, we all eat, right?

02:55:51.000 Farming, grazing, energy extraction, all of it.

02:55:54.000 Yeah, we've seen what's happened with agriculture across the world.

02:55:58.000 You know, the Netherlands has been in a war on their farmers over the last year or two.

02:56:04.000 And it's insane because we're talking about the UN Sustainable Development Goals.

02:56:09.000 Well, goal number two is world hunger and goal number 13 is climate change.

02:56:15.000 Well, which one wins when they're in conflict?

02:56:17.000 Clearly, climate change wins.

02:56:19.000 The Netherlands is the number two exporter of agriculture in the world.

02:56:24.000 And so when we're talking about going after agriculture, this is a very serious problem globally.

02:56:31.000 And now it has come to our shores in this natural asset company because only regenerative farming would be allowed.

02:56:39.000 And what is regenerative farming?

02:56:41.000 It means no synthetic fertilizer, no traditional machinery.

02:56:45.000 And so you're talking about something like what happened in Sri Lanka where they went to organic fertilizer and crop production fell drastically.

02:56:54.000 Prices increased dramatically.

02:56:56.000 We're going to come right back.

02:56:56.000 Right.

02:56:58.000 Marlo Oaks, I'm with Marlo Oaks, Utah State Treasurer.

02:57:00.000 We're going to come right back about these NACs.

02:57:03.000 Don't go anywhere.

02:57:03.000 You're going to want to hear about this.

02:57:05.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:57:06.000 I'm Kate Dally, your guest host for this hour, katedallyradio.com, The Kate Dally Show.

02:57:11.000 So glad to be with you at such a huge and important topic.

02:57:14.000 I don't really, I'm at a loss for words because this is the biggest land grab we've had since the inception of this country.

02:57:22.000 We've had, this is the biggest thing that's happened to this country not talked about.

02:57:28.000 Congressmen not talking about it.

02:57:30.000 Your senators not talking about it.

02:57:33.000 No one is talking about it.

02:57:35.000 And Marlo Oaks, thank the Lord, is out there talking about it.

02:57:41.000 And obviously this caught your eye, Marlo, and I so appreciate you being here.

02:57:45.000 Thank you for that.

02:57:47.000 This caught your eye with what you know about what's happening with the SEC, the Security and Exchange Commission, that would allow for the creation and the listing of a new type of company called a natural asset company.

02:57:59.000 The vote was set for yesterday, but it got delayed a couple of weeks because of the outcry?

02:58:06.000 Yes.

02:58:07.000 Yeah.

02:58:09.000 Several comment letters that went in.

02:58:11.000 We had a letter from Congresswoman Hageman of Wyoming and several Congress representatives signed that letter.

02:58:20.000 We had a letter from 22 states financial officers that I helped spearhead go into the SEC and that prompted them to open up the comment period for an additional 21 days.

02:58:36.000 And so we have until January 18th for people to submit comments to the SEC on why this rule would be a terrible idea.

02:58:44.000 And really hoping that people will do that, that people will reach out to their representatives in Congress to let them know about natural asset companies, that these should be opposed, and even their governors.

02:58:57.000 And this affects not just the West where, you know, more than half of our land is owned by the federal government.

02:59:04.000 This also Affects the East and private land, particularly if it has a conservation easement on it.

02:59:13.000 And I'm happy to talk about that as well.

02:59:16.000 Yes, please do.

02:59:17.000 Please go on.

02:59:18.000 I want to hear about this.

02:59:20.000 Yeah, so conservation easements, you know, it's really this idea that you can prevent development in the future if you wanted to keep your land kind of doing what it's always done.

02:59:31.000 For example, farmers are often Look at a conservation easement where they could get a tax deduction or a state tax reduction by putting a conservation easement on their land, which is essentially preventing future development, actually in perpetuity, no future development on that land.

02:59:53.000 And importantly, placing a lot of restrictions on any future activity On your land.

03:00:00.000 So if you once you enter into a conservation easement, you give away those development rights in the future, but you're also locking in the activity on the land as it is the day that you enter the contract.

03:00:13.000 And so you can continue to do your farming activity at that same level.

03:00:18.000 The problem is, is that technology changes, economics change.

03:00:22.000 And the way of doing things changes, but you're now locked in on what you can do on your land.

03:00:29.000 That conservation easement is filed with the IRS to get the tax deduction, and then often ends up in a land trust, and that land trust can then actually enroll that conservation easement in a natural asset company.

03:00:46.000 They don't allow transferring, but contracts are silent on Enrolling and so your land without knowing it, if you have a conservation easement on your land, that conservation easement could be enrolled in a natural asset company.

03:01:00.000 That natural asset company, the purpose is sustainability and you could find yourself in a situation where they say, yes, you can continue to farm, but you have to do it under regenerative farming practices, which means organic fertilizer and no machinery.

03:01:17.000 And you know, your yield could drop and it could be very uneconomic suddenly to farm your land.

03:01:24.000 And then you may end up having to sell just to realize any kind of economic profit from your land.

03:01:31.000 Conservation easements are being pushed heavily right now by this administration.

03:01:36.000 They're going around and trying to enter as much land as they can under conservation easements because in the future, if a natural asset company is possible, Those conservation easements would end up in a natural asset company and essentially be managed for the purpose of sustainability.

03:01:56.000 Wow.

03:01:58.000 Marlo Oaks is with me, Utah State Treasurer.

03:02:01.000 I'm so glad that you're with me right now talking about this, letting people know so they can get these comments in and fight this and ask why your senators and congressmen, which heard about this a while ago, have not said a word about it.

03:02:13.000 I haven't seen a single word.

03:02:15.000 And two things come to mind.

03:02:17.000 Number one, the Rockefeller plan from 2010, where the scenarios inside the plan is where they cordoned off bodies of water and told people that they could not go around them, utilize them, see them without being thrown into a penitentiary.

03:02:33.000 This was one of the scenarios that played out in the 2010 Rockefeller Plan where they could do that for 20 years based on the idea, based on no evidence at all, that something was wrong with the water or something was wrong with the land and they could just cordon it off for a specific amount of time.

03:02:50.000 So that comes to mind.

03:02:51.000 The other thing that comes to mind is about a decade ago when our guys on the right actually pushed through the Conservation Act and helped that go through.

03:02:59.000 So both sides working as one behind the corridor.

03:03:03.000 And the contract that they're giving the farmers at the very, very bottom said that you were giving control of the land to the Conservation, right?

03:03:12.000 It's the part of the Conservation Act that you were giving control of your land to the United States and its successor.

03:03:21.000 And now this makes a lot more sense as far as who that successor would be, and they could be a multitude of companies, a multitude of foreign interests, correct?

03:03:30.000 And we're talking air and water.

03:03:32.000 You might want to explain that with the air, with the minerals underneath the land, and everything that has to do with these properties, our public lands.

03:03:41.000 Yeah, so if you're thinking about a national forest, for example, you have trees that perform photosynthesis, you know, they absorb carbon and convert that into oxygen.

03:03:53.000 What is that value?

03:03:55.000 So we're talking about financializing the ecological services, essentially financializing photosynthesis.

03:04:03.000 What is that worth?

03:04:04.000 What is the, you know, a certain amount of oxygen worth putting a price tag on it?

03:04:10.000 And once you start putting a price tag on something, then you can sell it.

03:04:14.000 And it's not that far down the road then when you start demanding that companies and individuals

03:04:21.000 offset their carbon footprint by investing in a natural asset company that converts their

03:04:26.000 carbon footprint back into oxygen.

03:04:29.000 Water, you know, the supply of water.

03:04:34.000 And managing the land so that you maximize water and clean water in the aquifers below

03:04:41.000 You don't even have to own the land.

03:04:43.000 It's just what kind of plant life is on that piece of property to maximize water intake and even flood protection and how water runs off of land, things like that.

03:04:58.000 You know, it really is the financialization of Mother Nature.

03:05:03.000 And if you think about our economic assets, those are valued at 1.5 quadrillion.

03:05:09.000 They have estimated, the people, Intrinsic Exchange Group, that is the group that is in partnership with the New York Stock Exchange on this, they've estimated that the value of Mother Nature processes is five quadrillion dollars.

03:05:24.000 And by the way, the Intrinsic Exchange Group was funded and is funded by the Rockefeller Foundation.

03:05:32.000 And so we are seeing some common threads there.

03:05:35.000 It's very troubling what is going on with this.

03:05:41.000 It reminds me of a clip I was actually viewing yesterday from Pastor Parsley where he was talking about, this was 20 years ago, when he gave a sermon to his church and he was talking about the fact that if you took America right now with all of its buildings and its land and everything, you would actually have to sell that And do it twice more to get the value back for America.

03:05:41.000 Absolutely.

03:06:03.000 This is how much we've lost.

03:06:05.000 When we talk about debt and we talk about all these things and letting these people come in and the financial position that we're in right now, when we're talking about that specifically, you would have to sell everything that we own three times over and that was 20 years ago.

03:06:20.000 Can you imagine what it is today?

03:06:21.000 In order to retrieve America back. 0.89

03:06:24.000 So, of course, selling it to the highest bidder.

03:06:27.000 You know what?

03:06:27.000 I'm not shocked by this.

03:06:29.000 And it's sick.

03:06:30.000 It's evil.

03:06:31.000 And we must stop it.

03:06:33.000 Make sure and get those comments.

03:06:34.000 And we'll be right back more with Marlo Oaks.

03:06:36.000 Don't go anywhere on the Alex Jones Show.

03:06:38.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

03:06:40.000 I'm Kate Dally, your guest host.

03:06:41.000 So good to be with you today.

03:06:42.000 This is such an important, important topic.

03:06:45.000 And of course, it's one thing to be sold out by communist globalists who you know want to destroy the country, okay?

03:06:51.000 If we're going to talk sides.

03:06:52.000 But it's another thing to be sold out quietly by our own Congress and Senators who have done nothing to stop this or even raise a single alarm bell about this.

03:07:02.000 I find that alarming.

03:07:04.000 Not unusual, given the circumstances of what's been happening in this country for a long time, but it's so sad to me.

03:07:10.000 And of course, You know, usually public comment periods, it means that the decision's already been made, but it's for good optics.

03:07:17.000 What is your position on that?

03:07:19.000 Do you think that outcry from us, and of course, outcry from us should happen either way, because I think we're still responsible to fight for these things, but what's your take on this?

03:07:29.000 And then, of course, was there anything leading up to this, this proposal that was given to the SEC, and who is exactly behind that?

03:07:40.000 Marlo Oaks, Utah State Treasurer?

03:07:43.000 Yeah, thank you.

03:07:43.000 No, this is important.

03:07:46.000 And I think really the SEC was trying to keep this under the radar.

03:07:52.000 The New York Stock Exchange or neither the New York Stock Exchange or the SEC

03:07:58.000 came out with any kind of press release talking about this and the initial

03:08:05.000 comment period was 21 days.

03:08:08.000 Nobody really knew about it.

03:08:09.000 When I was back in D.C.

03:08:11.000 in October, right in the middle of the first comment period, nobody in Congress was talking about it because I don't think they knew about it.

03:08:18.000 The SEC was purposely very quiet.

03:08:23.000 And a letter on November 2nd went to the SEC from three senators and basically Asked several pointed questions about this and they were initially supposed to the SEC had targeted November 18th for their decision they didn't reopen the comment period but they did extend the decision to January 2nd just based on that letter from those senators and then and then that's when you know I had a Wall Street Journal op-ed come out in the middle of November and then more people started submitting comments and

03:09:01.000 And I think based on some of the letters and the comments that the SEC received on December 21st, they came out and said, we're reopening the comment period for 21 days.

03:09:15.000 And something unusual, they added a rebuttal period for two weeks after that, that allows anyone to rebut any of the comments that are sent in to the SEC.

03:09:25.000 And so that period ends February 1st.

03:09:30.000 Um, so there are some, you know, hopeful signs that, uh, you know, they've had two or three delays already.

03:09:37.000 They've reopened the comment period.

03:09:39.000 There's a lot more attention being drawn to this.

03:09:41.000 Uh, we're, we're seeing, uh, members in Congress getting more up to speed on this.

03:09:47.000 Um, and, and so, I mean, there's, there's definitely some good signs, but we have to keep the pressure up.

03:09:53.000 We have to have our voices heard.

03:09:56.000 And representatives have got to understand what a terrible idea this is.

03:10:03.000 And frankly, it's not, in my opinion, this is not a right or a left issue.

03:10:08.000 This is just an American issue.

03:10:10.000 And saving our resources for ourselves and managing those appropriately.

03:10:15.000 This is, it really is insane what this contemplates.

03:10:21.000 Did the SEC create this proposal or was this proposal given to them for consideration?

03:10:26.000 Um, so it's, I believe it was, um, the New York Stock Exchange that, that went to them and, and asked them to approve a change in their manual.

03:10:38.000 Um, but of course the SEC, uh, had to, um, you know, put this out on the federal register and they did it rather quickly and very much under the radar.

03:10:49.000 So I have to believe that, that they were, uh, they were in conversation Um, at some point, uh, talking about this and, and really it's, it's, it seems like it's all part of this whole of government approach to address climate change and the climate crisis.

03:11:09.000 Um, I think there's another interesting element to this and you were touching on a little bit, the, the amount of debt that we are in, um, as a nation.

03:11:19.000 And this, if we're talking about financializing our natural processes on our land, this is another asset that could be listed on our balance sheet as a country that would then potentially allow us to borrow more money.

03:11:36.000 And so it could be actually used to leverage even more borrowing as a nation.

03:11:41.000 It's crazy to contemplate that.

03:11:43.000 But if you're suddenly, if we're suddenly saying, you know, here's what the natural processes are valued in North America, and this is an asset on our balance sheet, now we can borrow against it.

03:11:53.000 Or we could, you know, the government could say, well, we're going to lower our debt by selling our federal holdings of land.

03:12:02.000 And we're going to sell them to natural asset companies because we want to make sure that that land is not exploited for, you know, for natural resources.

03:12:11.000 I mean, it's a double whammy.

03:12:12.000 Yes, you could sell it to people.

03:12:15.000 People could latch onto that and say, wow, this is a great way to reduce our debt burden.

03:12:21.000 But the reality is, is you're giving up our natural resources at that point and essentially crippling the country even further.

03:12:29.000 It's like selling the rooms in your home to somebody, not just renting them out, but really selling them and having them managed by somebody else.

03:12:36.000 At what point does it become not your home anymore?

03:12:41.000 Then Russia, Chinese, Saudi interests, all kinds of interests can come in and see that particular value for locking up our natural resources and owning and really managing is what you're saying because it's really devastating either one.

03:12:55.000 Managing the property means they get to call the shots.

03:12:59.000 That's right.

03:12:59.000 They get total control in perpetuity, which is forever and ever, which is actually really illegal in these contracts too, isn't it?

03:13:06.000 Well, and what's interesting though, that there is a provision that the natural asset company could be delisted from the stock exchange by not, I'm trying to remember the exact terminology it is, but essentially if they don't follow their sustainability practices on that on that land, then the NAC is delisted.

03:13:29.000 But that's it.

03:13:31.000 Then whoever owns the NAC, they can exploit those resources themselves.

03:13:37.000 And so you could have a situation where, you know, these natural asset companies essentially lock up the natural resources, delist and then they exploit the resources for their own benefit.

03:13:50.000 How do people How should they react to this?

03:13:54.000 What's the best way?

03:13:55.000 Who should they be contacting today, right now?

03:13:59.000 So definitely your congressional representatives, your governor, and people need to understand even county commissioners.

03:14:12.000 There's a push, like I said, to get land into conservation easements, and that often will happen at the county level.

03:14:21.000 We've got to be very smart about retaining private property rights.

03:14:26.000 And you're exactly right.

03:14:27.000 Once you give up your rights on your land, you essentially don't own it anymore.

03:14:32.000 It's destroying private property, the whole concept of private property.

03:14:37.000 And that's one of the key freedoms that we have.

03:14:40.000 And the reason why the Founding Fathers saw property rights as a critical freedom Because it allows us to have some control over the government.

03:14:51.000 If the government controls all the land, then you're really not a free people.

03:14:55.000 So definitely reach out to your representatives and governor, even county officials, and educate them about this.

03:15:07.000 And certainly, you know, there's their resources now out there.

03:15:11.000 But we've got to be smart about this.

03:15:14.000 You know, and I so appreciate that.

03:15:16.000 I don't have any faith in feds anymore.

03:15:19.000 I don't have any, I really don't.

03:15:21.000 I'm that cynical now, I guess, after doing this for 13 years.

03:15:24.000 But let me just say that, I mean, we should be commenting to them, putting pressure on them for sure.

03:15:31.000 But we have just over 3,000 counties in America, and you can put pressure on your county commissioners.

03:15:36.000 Now, they haven't done anything about voter fraud, which they should have been doing all along.

03:15:39.000 But they haven't. They've not only dropped the ball, but I think it's more intentional than that.

03:15:43.000 But then when it comes to this, this is the gutting of America.

03:15:46.000 We could prevent this by putting pressure on local representation all across America

03:15:51.000 because that makes up this land.

03:15:53.000 So if we put that kind of pressure on those that are closest to us,

03:15:57.000 those that know, and those that you can actually see up close and personal,

03:16:02.000 That might be even better than the feds.

03:16:06.000 Because at this point, with the feds not raising any alarm bells, it worries me that we're not getting a whole lot of action there.

03:16:13.000 But maybe with county commissioners we can.

03:16:15.000 Yeah, there are comments from counties, like there's a county in Utah, their water conservancy district submitted a comment to the SEC.

03:16:25.000 People can go on to the SEC website, and I'm happy to share those links with you, Kate.

03:16:30.000 They can look at some of those comments, they can submit comments themselves, you know, make arguments as to why this is a bad thing.

03:16:38.000 So yeah, I'll share some of those links with you.

03:16:41.000 Thank you so much.

03:16:42.000 Really appreciating you.

03:16:43.000 You can go to katedalleyradio.com.

03:16:45.000 We'll share them on the Alex Jones Show as well.

03:16:47.000 Thank you so much, Marlo Oaks, Utah State Treasurer, for coming on.

03:16:50.000 There's several state treasurers that are raising the alarm bells on this, the NACs, Natural Asset Companies.

03:16:56.000 Make sure and get those comments out, everybody.

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