Alex Jones Show - 20240209_Fri_Alex

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00:00:53.000 But you're describing two different systems.

00:00:55.000 You say that the leader acts in the interest of the voters, but you also say these decisions are not made by the leader, they're made by the ruling classes.

00:01:02.000 You've run this country for so long, you've known all these American presidents.

00:01:06.000 What are those power centers in the United States, do you think?

00:01:11.000 Like, who actually makes the decisions?

00:01:14.000 I don't know. America is a complex country.

00:01:22.000 Conservative on one hand, rapidly changing on the other.

00:01:27.000 It's not easy for us to sort it all out.

00:01:30.000 Who makes decisions in the elections?

00:01:33.000 Is it possible to understand this when each state has its own legislation?

00:01:37.000 Each state regulates itself?

00:01:40.000 Someone can be excluded from elections at the state level?

00:01:44.000 It is a two-stage electoral system.

00:01:46.000 It is very difficult for us to understand it.

00:01:50.000 Certainly, there are two parties that are dominant, the Republicans and the Democrats, and within this party system, the centers that make decisions, that prepare decisions.

00:02:02.000 Then, look, why, in my opinion, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, such an erroneous, crude, completely unjustified policy of pressure was pursued against Russia?

00:02:13.000 After all, this is a policy of pressure.

00:02:17.000 NATO expansion, support for the separatists and Caucasus, creation of a missile defense system.

00:02:24.000 These are all elements of pressure.

00:02:26.000 Pressure, pressure, pressure.

00:02:29.000 Then dragging Ukraine into NATO is all about pressure, pressure, pressure.

00:02:35.000 Why?

00:02:37.000 I think among other things, because excessive production capacities were created.

00:02:45.000 During the confrontation with the Soviet Union, there were many centers created and specialists on the Soviet Union who could not do anything else.

00:02:54.000 They convinced the political leadership that it is necessary to continue chiseling Russia, to try to break it up, to create on this territory several quasi-state entities and to subdue them in a divided form, to use their combined potential for the future struggle with China. 0.60

00:03:14.000 This is a mistake, including the excessive potential of those who worked for the confrontation with the Soviet Union.

00:03:21.000 It is necessary to get rid of this.

00:03:23.000 There should be new, fresh forces, people who look into the future and understand what is happening in the world.

00:03:31.000 Look at how Indonesia is developing.

00:03:33.000 600 million people.

00:03:36.000 Where can we get away from that?

00:03:38.000 Nowhere.

00:03:39.000 We just have to assume that Indonesia will enter, it is already in, the club of the world's leading economies, no matter who likes it or dislikes it.

00:03:50.000 Yes, we understand and are aware that in the United States, despite all the economic problems, The situation is still normal, with the economy growing decently.

00:04:01.000 The GDP is growing by 2.5%, if I'm not mistaken.

00:04:07.000 But if we want to ensure the future, then we need to change our approach to what is changing.

00:04:13.000 As I already said, the world would nevertheless change, regardless of how the developments in Ukraine end.

00:04:20.000 The world is changing.

00:04:22.000 In the United States themselves, experts are writing that the United States are nonetheless gradually changing their position in the world.

00:04:30.000 It is your experts who write that.

00:04:32.000 I just read them.

00:04:34.000 The only question is how this would happen.

00:04:37.000 Painfully and quickly, or gently and gradually.

00:04:41.000 And this is written by people who are not anti-American.

00:04:44.000 They simply follow global development trends.

00:04:47.000 That's it.

00:04:50.000 And in order to assess them and change policies, we need people who think, look forward, can analyze and recommend certain decisions at the level of political leaders.

00:05:05.000 It's Friday, we've got a massive broadcast lined up today.

00:05:08.000 David Icke, Roger Stone, you name it, stay with us.

00:05:11.000 This is the broadcast that the globalists do not want you to hear, but it's still on the air because of your dauntless support.

00:05:18.000 I'm very honored and blessed to be here on this Friday, February 9th, 2024 transmission.

00:05:24.000 And we are going to be here for the next four hours live.

00:05:26.000 Head of Owen Schroyer in the War Room, also on the InfoWars Network, coming up at 3 p.m.

00:05:32.000 Central Texas time today.

00:05:34.000 Okay, obviously the Biden story is ultra-massive.

00:05:37.000 The wheels have totally come off on multiple levels.

00:05:40.000 He doesn't even know what planet he's on.

00:05:42.000 His brain is declining more in a week than it has the last year.

00:05:45.000 At current decline, he won't be able to talk in a few months.

00:05:49.000 So this is just totally insane.

00:05:51.000 But you notice he's getting worse right before the Democrat convention coming up because their doctors that are drugging him up are in control.

00:06:00.000 This is a soft coup.

00:06:03.000 Now mainstream media has the knives out, corporate media, to remove Biden.

00:06:07.000 Incredible Putin interview yesterday.

00:06:11.000 Very statesman-like.

00:06:13.000 Extremely intellectual.

00:06:15.000 Very historical.

00:06:16.000 But the main takeaway is, and what the globals are jealous of him, They all share power in their globalist committees.

00:06:23.000 Putin is actually in charge of Russia and over 80% popularity.

00:06:28.000 And I know journalists that have been over there and from coast to coast, they say, no, they love Putin.

00:06:34.000 And Russia has a history like unlike any other country of being constantly attacked.

00:06:38.000 For 1,100 years, perpetual war from the East and West, and that's what's going on with the Russians. 0.93

00:06:45.000 And they're not going to back down.

00:06:46.000 They're not going to go away.

00:06:48.000 And if the West starts a war with them, it'll be the end of civilizations.

00:06:51.000 We know it.

00:06:52.000 They'll die.

00:06:53.000 We'll die.

00:06:54.000 Much worse for the Germans and the Russians going toe-to-toe in World War II.

00:06:59.000 And I'm not lessening how many troops we lost in World War II.

00:07:02.000 Both my grandfathers were in it.

00:07:03.000 but Russia and Germany were the big person table at Thanksgiving and the little card table

00:07:11.000 with the kids at it was the United States and the so-called allies.

00:07:16.000 26 million dead Russians, 24 million dead Germans.

00:07:21.000 Those are official numbers, killing each other.

00:07:24.000 And then you look at the numbers, we didn't even lose a million here in the United States.

00:07:28.000 Still a serious war, still terrible.

00:07:30.000 But the real war was that.

00:07:33.000 And you have Napoleon losing against the Russians.

00:07:36.000 It just goes on and on and on.

00:07:41.000 And so, I predicted, and just telling you, I know with my research, nobody else did.

00:07:46.000 Everybody's like, oh, what's he gonna talk about?

00:07:48.000 I said, they'll get a big giant history lesson at the first.

00:07:51.000 We have the clip of me saying it on Monday.

00:07:53.000 We're gonna post it to Bandai Video, or I'll put it out on X, just to show you I do my research.

00:07:57.000 And I told the whole story of Slav the Wise and all that.

00:08:00.000 And again, that's just known over there.

00:08:03.000 That's not known over here.

00:08:05.000 But I nailed it.

00:08:06.000 But since I knew that already, I was like, people are gonna be bored by this.

00:08:09.000 They're not gonna understand it.

00:08:11.000 But that's what Putin does. I mean, he just talks about history. If you don't know history,

00:08:15.000 you're doomed to repeat it. As Winston Churchill famously said in the middle of World War II.

00:08:21.000 So we have Roger Stone joining us at the bottom of the hour in about 23 minutes, 22 minutes.

00:08:27.000 Then we have David Icke joining us for at least an hour and a half. And I'm calling it a debate

00:08:35.000 because we are going to debate some stuff, but it's a friendly debate.

00:08:37.000 I love David Icke.

00:08:39.000 A super great guy, super smart, really liked the guy, and that's why when he's been kind of kin pecking me a little bit, and that's kind of what it's like, calling me the minion of Elon Musk and stuff, it hurts because It's good to have David there criticizing Elon so that, you know, we can push him in the right direction and if he doesn't go in the right direction, you expose him.

00:09:03.000 But when he's moving in our direction and doing all these good things, sure, you don't turn the lights off and trust Elon Musk.

00:09:11.000 Anybody with that much power you can't trust, but I'm not going to complain when he's swinging like 80% our direction.

00:09:17.000 So, I mean, it's that simple.

00:09:20.000 I never sold out at the Globalist when I was offered the big Fox shows and Rush Limbaugh slot and everything, because it was a direct New World Order work for us.

00:09:30.000 You'll get all this money and power.

00:09:31.000 I said no to all that.

00:09:33.000 But when somebody's fighting the Globalist on so many fronts, And also, double dealing, obviously.

00:09:40.000 He's got a foot in both worlds, but he's moving way towards us.

00:09:44.000 I'm going to talk about the good I see, and then criticize the bad I see.

00:09:48.000 I don't think it's a... David is a purist, which I think is a good.

00:09:52.000 It's good to have him there as the guy that is going to really focus on Musk.

00:10:00.000 It's good to have that position out there.

00:10:05.000 I just cannot in good conscience myself sit here when I see the globalists literally coming after Musk.

00:10:11.000 He's devastating them.

00:10:13.000 And sure, he probably just wants to take over their system.

00:10:15.000 He's just a competitor.

00:10:16.000 That's probably what it is.

00:10:18.000 Okay, he knows he's way smarter than them.

00:10:19.000 They're all twisted and inbred and out of control and he's moving in on them.

00:10:24.000 That's how they see Trump, by the way.

00:10:27.000 They see Trump as a competitor.

00:10:29.000 There's an old saying, I think Frank Herbert wrote about it, but it's been said by philosophers before him that every revolutionary is an aspiring aristocrat, in that every revolutionary really just wants to be in power.

00:10:45.000 I think that's a cynical worldview because that's not how I am.

00:10:48.000 I want to see humanity empowered.

00:10:49.000 I want to see prosperity like the founders did.

00:10:52.000 But most revolutionaries, particularly their leftists, do want to be the boss and do want to enslave people.

00:11:00.000 Frank Herbert was a great novelist, a great science fiction writer, but also an amazing political essayist.

00:11:07.000 I got interested in him back when I was young reading his science fiction books, and I found out that he did a lot of non-fiction before he was popular, and I actually got those books.

00:11:17.000 I used to go to rare bookstores and order books and stuff.

00:11:20.000 Got some of the rare writings of Frank Herbert.

00:11:22.000 Learned a lot from him.

00:11:24.000 He was a real environmentalist, by the way.

00:11:26.000 Humans taking control of the environment and terraforming it to turn the desert green and do all these amazing things.

00:11:33.000 So, again, the globalists hijacked that amazing environmentalist movement of the 60s and by the 80s had it under total control.

00:11:40.000 But I'm kind of digressing on the Frank Herbert subject.

00:11:44.000 What I want to talk about here today is the fact that we're winning.

00:11:48.000 And I've got a short clip I want to play, when we come back from break, Joe Rogan with the NFL quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who I really admire, not for the NFL.

00:12:01.000 I mean, I like football.

00:12:03.000 I mean, I think it's cool.

00:12:06.000 But I like him a thousand times more because he's got courage.

00:12:10.000 And they had some nice things to say about me.

00:12:12.000 But what it's really about is, The fact that this broadcast is now seen by Tucker Carlson, Senator on Air, into my face, Joe Rogan, all of them, as the most accurate.

00:12:24.000 I've made some mistakes, I've followed rabbit trails, I've been set up.

00:12:28.000 I've taken the bait a few times, I'm not perfect.

00:12:30.000 But the fact that in this world today, the most popular talk show host that people say, Alex Jones is the best we've got.

00:12:37.000 That shows how far we've come.

00:12:38.000 It's not about, oh look, I'm the best we've got.

00:12:40.000 Boy, I ain't saying much.

00:12:43.000 But once people get my perspective, it's like wearing the glasses and they live.

00:12:49.000 I'm not telling you what to think.

00:12:50.000 I'm like, oh, you don't see that.

00:12:53.000 20 point buck right behind that tree in the brush.

00:12:55.000 I'm like, just move your eyes a little and kind of just don't, my grandfather taught me, great hunter, to unfocus.

00:13:03.000 You're sitting there looking at a deer stand at, in a clearing at 200 yards of woods and deer trails.

00:13:13.000 And he said, if you're looking for the deer, you can't find him.

00:13:15.000 He said, just sit back and open up your eyes.

00:13:19.000 And just look in your eye and the movement when you pick up, oh, there's a squirrel, there's a rabbit, there's a hawk, there's a crow, there's an armadillo, ooh, there's a 20 point buck.

00:13:35.000 And that's what I'm trying to get you to do, is not see what I see through my eyeballs.

00:13:41.000 I read the Globalist documents and I see their plans being unfolded.

00:13:45.000 And so I know damn well they're in charge.

00:13:47.000 They're not in total control yet.

00:13:49.000 They want to get their cashless society in. 0.52

00:13:50.000 If they get that in, baby, then we're in a whole world of, you know what, SH-T. 0.67

00:13:56.000 But as soon as people finally listen to me, And finally, understand how it all connects together.

00:14:03.000 And I can show them globalist documents and even admit how they do it.

00:14:06.000 But I'm able to figure out how they're operating and then later even find a document where they admit it all exactly as I saw it.

00:14:11.000 It's a perspective.

00:14:13.000 And you've got to admit there's a global elite coming after you.

00:14:16.000 You've got to admit they're a globalist.

00:14:18.000 They're trying to dehumanize you.

00:14:22.000 And that they're cold-blooded.

00:14:24.000 They want you to turn off your life force.

00:14:27.000 And turn off your survival mechanism.

00:14:28.000 Alright, Roger Stone's coming up.

00:14:31.000 David Icke's coming up, and so much more.

00:14:33.000 I want to thank everybody that's joined us on this live, unfiltered, uncensored transmission.

00:14:40.000 Nobody calls the shots around here but me.

00:14:46.000 I'm in charge of my destiny, and there are billions of people just like me, and we're coming together, and there is a great awakening, a great renaissance happening, and that's why the globalists are so scared making their moves.

00:14:57.000 Alright, now this short two minute Joe Rogan clip with Aaron Rodgers, they said some other nice stuff about me on the podcast, and again it's not about me, it's about I'm this demonized symbol, the worst thing on earth, the corporate media says, and then the biggest talk show host in the world, all of them now, in Japan, in Russia, in Africa, in Brazil, in the United States, in Europe, I mean I consider, name them all, say Alex Jones is the best.

00:15:21.000 And it's not about me being the best for me, they're saying that radical outcast, The guy totally demonized is good because they've done their research.

00:15:30.000 That is a repudiation of the system and it shows our political understanding, your political understanding, your support of this broadcast is paying off.

00:15:38.000 As I tell you, I go, listen, I do more important work.

00:15:41.000 How many times have I said this the last three years?

00:15:44.000 Behind the scenes talking to the heavy hitters and sending them information and then seeing it on their show a couple of days later.

00:15:50.000 And then they ask me questions, not just Joe Rogan, a bunch of other people.

00:15:54.000 And Joe talked about that, but that's not the most important thing he said.

00:15:58.000 He then gets into the collapse of civilization.

00:16:01.000 And we're two weeks from cannibalism, folks, if things go down.

00:16:04.000 And the globalists are positioning us for that.

00:16:08.000 I see David Ickers coming on, I love him to death, criticizing Joe, criticizing, oh they're gatekeepers, oh.

00:16:14.000 I've known Joe 25 years, I've seen him wake up from kind of a liberal to what he is today.

00:16:18.000 He's real, it's a process, and now he's getting more and more hardcore.

00:16:21.000 He's about 90% as hardcore as I am on air.

00:16:23.000 Behind the scenes, my God, he's fully awake.

00:16:26.000 And then he knows Elon and tells me stuff about Elon, I don't know Elon.

00:16:30.000 Elon is totally, at least telling these people he hates the new world order and wants to bring it down.

00:16:35.000 Couldn't it be that he would swing around to us because he's got 11 kids and wants to have a future?

00:16:39.000 I'm not even saying that's going to happen, but we have to think like winners.

00:16:43.000 We don't delusionally think everything's okay, like Q says.

00:16:47.000 But we have to also, when things are going our way quickly, not go, no, no, no, those people are fake!

00:16:54.000 You still watch them, you still criticize them, that's all healthy, and what David does is healthy.

00:16:58.000 And I'll discuss it with David coming up.

00:16:59.000 I'll play a clip of David in a moment.

00:17:01.000 But, and guys, print me his tweets from last week.

00:17:05.000 And in fairness, he gets so many emails.

00:17:06.000 I do too.

00:17:08.000 I was sending him stuff months ago.

00:17:09.000 I was going into his spam.

00:17:11.000 He missed him.

00:17:12.000 He found him.

00:17:13.000 And when he heard me complain, he went to his email and go, oh God, they're in the spam, which a lot of the computer systems do that.

00:17:19.000 They spam the good stuff.

00:17:20.000 You learn that, especially when you're using a big computer system.

00:17:22.000 I don't know what he's using.

00:17:26.000 And he said, sure, I'll come on.

00:17:27.000 And plus his daughter, beautiful lady.

00:17:29.000 He's got a beautiful family.

00:17:30.000 I know some of his family died recently, so I'm not here criticizing David at all.

00:17:34.000 I think what he's doing is healthy.

00:17:36.000 But when he put out those tweets where he calls us mams or mammies or something, it's some British term I don't understand, minions.

00:17:44.000 I looked it up when I did it and it's basically like I'm a brown noser of Elon Musk and I'm not seeing the truth now.

00:17:53.000 I'm covering everything the way I always do, not censoring anything I say.

00:17:57.000 If I get banned for something I say by Elon, then I'll talk about it.

00:18:01.000 But I'm not changing one damn thing I do, other than like, wow, Elon's really moving in the right direction.

00:18:06.000 I mean, what am I supposed to say he's not?

00:18:08.000 How dare you expose the open border?

00:18:10.000 How dare you say the dangers of AI?

00:18:11.000 How dare you expose the WEF and say we don't want world government?

00:18:15.000 How, how, how, I mean, okay, fine.

00:18:17.000 Elon Musk is bad, he shouldn't do any of that.

00:18:19.000 And then I'll be...

00:18:21.000 The holy one, I guess.

00:18:22.000 The perfect person here.

00:18:24.000 But I understand for folks who have been doing this for 35 years like Ike, myself for 30, there is kind of a, well, we're the OGs, so who are these guys coming along?

00:18:32.000 Well, I see that as the sign of our success, not our failure.

00:18:36.000 And that's what God imprinted on me, and I've been talking about it for 20 plus years, that my main mission was to get everybody awake, and when they saw it all come true, when it went from beta to operational, then there'd be the Great Awakening.

00:18:47.000 And I didn't just say that when we were able to do this together the last few years.

00:18:50.000 I've been saying it for decades.

00:18:51.000 You've heard me talk about it hundreds of times if you're a regular listener.

00:18:54.000 And so I'm watching God's information, and David got a big download too.

00:19:00.000 He's got a bunch of them.

00:19:01.000 So my download told me this, and the download came true.

00:19:04.000 Here's a clip of Joe Rogan.

00:19:07.000 You know, it's the Alex Jones was right meme.

00:19:09.000 Like, do you realize how many times that guy's been right?

00:19:12.000 Like, how is he so good at predicting all these things that are happening?

00:19:15.000 Because the guy's balls deep in it all day long.

00:19:17.000 Yeah.

00:19:17.000 You could call him right now.

00:19:18.000 It's like, I'm doing the documents.

00:19:19.000 I'm reading the research right now.

00:19:20.000 This is what they're doing.

00:19:20.000 This is sick.

00:19:21.000 This is bland.

00:19:22.000 I talk to him all the time.

00:19:24.000 Every time something's crazy, I'll text him.

00:19:24.000 We text each other.

00:19:25.000 Like, what is this?

00:19:26.000 And he'll send me all these documents.

00:19:28.000 He's talking about, uh, that's not something he said the other day about.

00:19:31.000 You know, you gotta have somebody in case they turn the power off, turn the water off, do something like that.

00:19:37.000 Well, there's a lot of people that think that, including me.

00:19:40.000 Because if I was a foreign government and I wanted to cripple America, I would kill the power grid. 0.55

00:19:44.000 We'd go feral in two weeks.

00:19:47.000 It would be chaos in two weeks.

00:19:48.000 As soon as people don't have water and food, and their children are starving, people go crazy.

00:19:52.000 They start eating dogs, they start shooting deer in their neighborhood, and then that runs out, and they realize they don't know how to keep food good.

00:19:58.000 You know, when it's hot out, they don't know how to get water, they don't know how to treat water.

00:20:02.000 It could get real bad, real quick.

00:20:03.000 We are not self-sufficient, even remotely.

00:20:05.000 There's small pockets of human beings in this country that are self-sufficient, but if you had to guess how many people could survive off-grid if everything went haywire, it's like 1%.

00:20:14.000 Which is probably what happens when there's a massive catastrophe, when some sort of a global catastrophic event, like a super volcano or something along those lines.

00:20:21.000 Another younger, driest situation.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, it's probably 1% of the people survive.

00:20:25.000 It's probably what happened back then, too.

00:20:26.000 Yeah.

00:20:27.000 Well, that's what I've always said, is the reason why if you go back Look at like ancient Egypt.

00:20:31.000 Look at how insanely sophisticated they were.

00:20:34.000 And if you subscribe to the Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson's perspective, which I do, which is that at one point in time, there was an incredibly sophisticated society, probably more sophisticated than we are, that lived in Africa, in Egypt, and that those people were probably in a different That's Joe Rogan.

00:20:52.000 That's powerful.

00:20:53.000 Okay?

00:20:53.000 And I know Joe.

00:20:53.000 Very well.

00:20:53.000 day and then they were wiped out and then go after that so if you're talking

00:20:58.000 about 11,000 years ago 11,800 years ago when they got wiped out and that just

00:21:01.000 you know we're down like 1% of the population think about what history

00:21:04.000 looks like when you go back 4,000 years 3,000 it's barbarians that's Joe Rogan

00:21:11.000 that's powerful and and I know Joe very well okay extremely well that's some parties in Vegas other places

00:21:22.000 that were like to hangover

00:21:24.000 I mean, for a long time ago.

00:21:29.000 And he's real.

00:21:30.000 And then people are like, oh no, he's not real because he's popular.

00:21:33.000 No, freedom's popular.

00:21:34.000 I know, I'm for real.

00:21:35.000 So other people like Elon Musk are going to see that.

00:21:37.000 They're going to come our direction.

00:21:38.000 For whatever reason, we've got to be ready to win.

00:21:41.000 Here's David Icke about the interview coming up in about 30 minutes.

00:21:48.000 Hello everybody.

00:21:49.000 Tonight, 6pm UK, I'll be talking live with Alex Jones in the United States about my views, been quite controversial, but that's a change, isn't it?

00:22:04.000 About the way the, what I call the mainstream alternative media, the MAM, has been eulogising and not questioning in the way that it would have done before The actions, activities and companies and agenda of Elon Musk.

00:22:25.000 Apparently, there's a chance, we'll see, of Elon Musk coming on, which I will be absolutely delighted about.

00:22:35.000 But otherwise, we're going to be knocking this subject around.

00:22:39.000 And it's something that has to be debated.

00:22:43.000 Because the alternative media is being neutered currently, and it has to stop.

00:22:53.000 Alright, now we're going to put a Spaces out in the last half of the Ike interview just for Elon to call him if he wants.

00:23:01.000 He does that.

00:23:03.000 Two words.

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00:24:02.000 For months when you were asked about your age, you would respond with the words, watch me.

00:24:07.000 Many American people have been watching and they have expressed concerns about your age.

00:24:12.000 That is your judgment.

00:24:14.000 That is your judgment.

00:24:15.000 That is not the judgment of the press.

00:24:17.000 They express concerns about your mental acuity.

00:24:20.000 They say that you are too old.

00:24:21.000 Mr. President, in December, you told me that you believe there are many other Democrats who could defeat Donald Trump.

00:24:27.000 So why does it have to be you now?

00:24:29.000 What is your answer to that question?

00:24:30.000 Because I'm the most qualified person in this country to be President of the United States and finish the job I started.

00:24:34.000 As you know, initially, the President of Mexico, Sisi, did not want to open up the gate to allow humanitarian material to get in.

00:24:49.000 I talked to him.

00:24:51.000 I convinced him to open the gate.

00:24:52.000 I talked to Bibi to open the gate on the Israeli side.

00:24:57.000 He didn't just get a name wrong, folks.

00:24:59.000 He said Mexico, which is Egypt in his mind, and the other side of the world, in the Middle East, we're in North America, wouldn't let the Palestinians in. 0.97

00:25:13.000 And he has bigger gaps than that every day.

00:25:15.000 I mean he is Everybody knows you leave milk in the refrigerator too long, expiration date, you smell it or you taste it, you spit it out, you throw it away.

00:25:23.000 But have you ever had like a hunting cabin or something, you haven't been in it in six months, you leave a gallon of milk in there and you come back and it's just solid matter.

00:25:31.000 It's turned into yogurt, it's totally rotten.

00:25:34.000 That's Biden.

00:25:36.000 He's like two-year-old milk.

00:25:38.000 And so Roger Stone's the first person, two plus years ago, The first to say they're going to remove him in 2024 at the DNC and replace him with Big Mike.

00:25:50.000 A.K.A.

00:25:51.000 Michelle Obama.

00:25:53.000 Big Daddy.

00:25:54.000 And now CNN, Fox News, I'm not going to play the clips, you see it all over the news, New York Post, they say no.

00:26:00.000 They're going to remove him and they're saying will he even last to the convention.

00:26:04.000 So they're now admitting, oh he'll be removed to the convention.

00:26:08.000 And you've got the FBI not charging him, the Justice Department not charging him, but admitting he's guilty of illegally having documents.

00:26:14.000 His vice president had no right to do that.

00:26:16.000 But Trump's still charged when he can legally have them.

00:26:18.000 This is next level hypocrisy.

00:26:22.000 So every time they charge him for something he didn't do, or have a show trial without even a jury, or tell the jury he's already guilty, he goes up five points.

00:26:31.000 So I guess he's gonna go up more now that he's charged for legally having documents, but Biden, they say, had them illegally, but since his brain is Swiss cheese, he can't.

00:26:40.000 So Trump confidant, Richard Nixon confidant, literal living political legend, and he's a political fossil, but doesn't look like one, he's in better shape than me, damn it, I'm jealous, and better dressed, is my good friend Roger Stone.

00:26:56.000 Roger, this is not a boring time to be alive, is it?

00:27:00.000 No, Alex, this is actually one of the most tumultuous weeks I've ever seen in American politics.

00:27:06.000 I think yesterday, late yesterday, was a flashpoint.

00:27:10.000 Let's be very clear about what exactly what happened.

00:27:13.000 special counsel, Robert Herr, who was appointed by Merrick Garland, who is Joe Biden's attorney

00:27:20.000 general, released a report in which he essentially said, firstly, that Biden did in fact illegally

00:27:28.000 retain classified and top secret documents and notebooks in violation of the law.

00:27:35.000 They found them strewn throughout his house.

00:27:39.000 This is an additional to the tranche of documents.

00:27:41.000 They found in two places in his garage.

00:27:44.000 So we've established that he broke the law, but then go on to say essentially that he

00:27:50.000 cannot be prosecuted because in their opinion, a jury would find him not guilty based on his

00:27:56.000 essentially his mental incapacity.

00:27:59.000 They don't say it in those exact words, but they basically say that he's old, that he's confused and so on.

00:28:07.000 So now Biden comes out charging out of the gate, attacking the press.

00:28:12.000 His counsel puts out a statement attacking his own Justice Department.

00:28:17.000 Joe cannot have it both ways.

00:28:20.000 He cannot avoid prosecution because he's not mentally capable of standing trial at the same time saying, reelect me.

00:28:28.000 Let's keep my fingers on the nuclear codes.

00:28:31.000 This is the beginning of the end.

00:28:34.000 It's going to be impossible to sweep this under the carpet.

00:28:39.000 And as you point out, Alex, he did more damage yesterday in his response.

00:28:44.000 He hurt himself in his response.

00:28:47.000 Well, people say Alex Jones as a crystal ball, but buddy, I've learned to not roll my eyes at you because everything you say comes true, but how the hell did you at least two and a half years ago say they'll remove him in 2024?

00:29:01.000 And I said, well, maybe earlier.

00:29:03.000 He said, you said no.

00:29:04.000 And you've been on the air.

00:29:06.000 Like a parrot saying that, and now it's all over the news, the Democrats admit it, the Republicans admit it, and you're not getting any of the credit.

00:29:12.000 And it's not really about credit, but that's who I want on the show, is people that are almost always right or always right, instead of the mainstream media that's always wrong.

00:29:21.000 Well, going all the way back to the time that I was proud to do a show at InfoWars, The War Room, which I proudly co-hosted with my friend Owen Schroyer, the whole point of InfoWars is tomorrow's news today.

00:29:34.000 First of all, one needs to understand the character of Joe Biden.

00:29:38.000 You may remember perhaps a year and a half ago, maybe longer, when Senator Lindsey Graham said, well, even if you disagree with Joe politically, you got to admit he's a nice guy.

00:29:48.000 Actually, nobody I know who knows him thinks he's a nice guy.

00:29:53.000 People think that he is a nasty, self-centered, egotistical prick that has never been popular among his own Democratic colleagues in the Senate, and he's Really delusional in the sense that he thinks he's a Kennedy, he thinks that this is his birthright.

00:30:14.000 He's very, very, very stubborn.

00:30:17.000 And I think you saw that yesterday, but let's be very clear.

00:30:24.000 He and his fake doctor wife think that they are actually in charge and not Obama and that he's gonna go kicking and screaming and that that's gonna be the crisis that they would then start the indictments of his son and the pressure.

00:30:36.000 Everything you said to the letter, like you wrote the symphony, is now happening.

00:30:42.000 Alex, I can't disagree, but let's look at yesterday for a second.

00:30:45.000 First of all, the report makes clear Uh, that, uh, that he could not remember when he was Vice President, that he could not remember the date of his son's death.

00:30:55.000 He has variously said his son died in combat or died in the service.

00:30:59.000 His son died of a brain tumor, uh, in Delaware when he was the Attorney General.

00:31:05.000 God rest his soul.

00:31:07.000 He goes on about a rosary that he's worn since his son's death, then he couldn't remember where he got the rosary started to.

00:31:15.000 He said, well, Our Lady of... and he stops.

00:31:19.000 As you correctly point out, he identifies the president of Egypt as the president of Mexico.

00:31:26.000 In the actual report, he doesn't remember when he was vice president.

00:31:31.000 He also refers repeatedly to Kamala Harris as President Harris.

00:31:37.000 So, if anything, this has accelerated the process of his removal.

00:31:45.000 It's interesting that just in the last couple weeks, we have read credible reports that Joe Biden wanted to dump Kamala Harris as his running mate.

00:31:55.000 But what I see as a growing possibility, Alex, is a removal of Joe Biden under the 25th Amendment.

00:32:04.000 Remember, Trump said that when they floated it against him in his last few months in office when they stole the election in 2020.

00:32:12.000 He said two words, you know, 25th Amendment, Biden.

00:32:15.000 Remember that clip?

00:32:17.000 Yes, I do.

00:32:18.000 It turns out to be precinct.

00:32:20.000 I mean, let's talk about how that works.

00:32:23.000 So the 25th Amendment allows for the removal of an elected president for reasons of mental incapacity.

00:32:33.000 And all it requires is a majority of the cabinet plus the support of the vice president.

00:32:40.000 Well, would Kamala Harris like to be president? 1.00

00:32:42.000 You know that she would.

00:32:44.000 Does she not want to get dealt out in this shuffle with Michelle Obama and the Obamas? 0.97

00:32:49.000 You can bet on that as well.

00:32:51.000 Plus, she can't be very happy about the story she read 10 days ago saying that Joe Biden was planning to replace her with Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan.

00:33:01.000 So, I really think that a 25th amendment scenario here is increasingly likely.

00:33:10.000 Joe Biden can no longer pretend that the emperor is wearing clothes, and he can't have it both ways.

00:33:16.000 He should be prosecuted for his illegal retention.

00:33:20.000 Remember, vice presidents are not allowed to retain any documents.

00:33:24.000 These are from his time as vice president, also from his time as a U.S.

00:33:29.000 senator, and then argue in the next breath that he's fit enough to control the nuclear codes.

00:33:36.000 Remember how much trouble Sandy Berger got for sticking one secret document in his sock.

00:33:40.000 So the law is very clear.

00:33:42.000 So how do they, I guess they don't care, but this shows a total two-tiered justice system where Trump is, again, been indicted.

00:33:52.000 I'm talking about more indictments in New Jersey, but of course in Miami by Jack Smith, the U.N.

00:33:58.000 prosecutor.

00:34:00.000 It's so obvious.

00:34:01.000 It's just another time where it shows everybody that Joe Biden's above the law.

00:34:07.000 Uh, you know, does it matter?

00:34:08.000 I think it matters to voters, and that's the important thing.

00:34:11.000 The people can see this.

00:34:12.000 I mean, the mainstream media covered that, that disaster of a press conference last night.

00:34:17.000 I haven't seen anything like that since Richard Nixon angrily said, I'm finished with politics, you won't have Nixon to kick around anymore.

00:34:25.000 It was one of those I was about to say, that's what they claim Putin does, is control all the press, and he does to a great extent.

00:34:31.000 But he's saying, oh, I speak for the press, I tell you what the press believes.

00:34:34.000 He says that's your opinion, that's not the opinion of the press.

00:34:38.000 Well, I think ultimately it will be the opinion of the people.

00:34:41.000 This guy kind of shows it every week.

00:34:43.000 I was about to say, that's what they claim Putin does is control all the press, and he

00:34:46.000 does to a great extent.

00:34:47.000 But he's saying, oh I speak for the press, I tell you what the press believes.

00:34:52.000 I mean it was a very dictatorial comment.

00:34:54.000 Yeah, it was a very, very telling moment.

00:34:58.000 Again, let's look at the process.

00:35:00.000 This will become much easier, of course, if they do remove Joe under the 25th Amendment.

00:35:06.000 They might let him stay as president and agree not to remove him on the condition that he drop his plans for re-election.

00:35:15.000 That allows them to do the Great Switch, which we've talked about.

00:35:18.000 The rules for the Democratic National Convention are very different than the Republicans.

00:35:24.000 You have this large block of superdelegates who are most definitely controlled by Barack Obama.

00:35:30.000 They're elected officials, party officials, and so on.

00:35:35.000 I see them taking Biden right up to the convention.

00:35:39.000 They've cleared the field so that he can continue to win delegates.

00:35:43.000 By the way, smashing victory by Donald Trump yesterday in Nevada.

00:35:47.000 Some will say, well, he was unopposed.

00:35:49.000 Look at the turnout numbers.

00:35:51.000 They were 16 percent.

00:35:53.000 So what's going on with bird brain?

00:35:57.000 Well, we'd have to figure out why Nikki Haley's in this race. 0.99

00:36:01.000 If she's in this race to Hector and Badger Donald Trump on the hopes of getting on the ticket, that's just not going to happen.

00:36:09.000 The days when you saw balance in the party or geographic balance, those days are over.

00:36:15.000 Trump needs a solid America first, make America great.

00:36:20.000 Sure, well the Washington Post said it's in case they kill him or he dies.

00:36:24.000 That's what they said.

00:36:26.000 Well, and I think that's why Governor DeSantis is now suddenly pop up talking about all kinds of federal issues.

00:36:31.000 He's talking about term limits, talking about constitutional amendment for a balanced budget.

00:36:36.000 I wish he would stick to his knitting in Florida.

00:36:39.000 We have an insurance crisis.

00:36:40.000 We have a utility rate crisis.

00:36:42.000 We have a growing crime crisis.

00:36:45.000 But he's letting everybody know that he's standing by equipment.

00:36:48.000 Again, I don't think anything is going to deny Donald Trump this nomination.

00:36:53.000 So Nikki Haley's either hanging out for one of two reasons.

00:36:56.000 One, because she thinks she can euchre her way onto the ticket. 0.97

00:36:59.000 That's not going to happen.

00:37:01.000 I guarantee you that.

00:37:03.000 Or she is there as a puppet for the Uniparty on the theory that her attacks on Donald Trump are helpful to Joe Biden or whoever it is they replaced Joe Biden with.

00:37:16.000 All right, Roger, you've got the floor here for your predictions on what you think Trump should do.

00:37:23.000 Well, I mean, I actually think this plays directly into his hands.

00:37:26.000 I mean, we're wrangling with the special counsel in both Florida and in D.C.

00:37:33.000 In Florida, I'm not an attorney, as you know, but it appears to me they want him to stay in trial for the retention of certain documents, but they won't tell him or the American people what those documents are or what they regard.

00:37:47.000 I don't know how That cannot look unfair to the American people.

00:37:53.000 And additionally now, he has the additional argument that Joe Biden, by the words of his own Justice Department, violated the law.

00:38:03.000 By the way, this idea that Biden cooperated and Trump didn't, that's contradicted in Mr. Herr's report as well.

00:38:10.000 He did not cooperate.

00:38:12.000 They searched his house without his approval, seizing these notebooks that I guess he has somewhere under his television set.

00:38:20.000 So everything we've been told that Biden's case is not as serious because he cooperated, that's all nonsense.

00:38:27.000 So I think this has handed Donald Trump a golden opportunity yet again to drive the point home that he is the target of a malicious, politically motivated prosecution in both Florida and D.C.

00:38:43.000 Big, big decisions before the Supreme Court.

00:38:46.000 I thought Trump's attorneys did a good job on the issue of ballot access, the so-called Colorado case, which really is going to set the pace for all of these illicit, anti-democratic, autocratic efforts to get Trump off the ballot because he is Engaged in insurrection.

00:39:04.000 According to what court?

00:39:06.000 That's a subjective opinion from some leftists.

00:39:09.000 I think he's going to win that issue.

00:39:11.000 I'm more concerned about the question of presidential immunity.

00:39:16.000 I'm less confident about that.

00:39:17.000 But I will also make this point.

00:39:19.000 If they decide that Trump does not have immunity for his acts as president, well then Barack Obama can be sued for the drone killing of U.S.

00:39:28.000 citizens.

00:39:29.000 He can be sued for illegal surveillance of the communications of James Rosen when he was at Fox, or Tucker Carlson when he was contemplating going to Russia, and I think more recently.

00:39:43.000 And those are just some of the minor crimes.

00:39:46.000 I mean, if they do away with immunity for the President, they're going to hamper all past Presidents who can still be sued if they're living, and all future Presidents who have to act in the national interest.

00:39:59.000 All right, Roger, I would be remiss if I didn't talk about the Tucker Carlson interview.

00:40:03.000 It's obviously bigger than Carlson, bigger than Putin.

00:40:06.000 It's about trying to stop World War III, and it's about the war against the press, and the idea that Tucker couldn't go interview whoever he wants.

00:40:14.000 They're calling for him to be indicted for the Espionage Act.

00:40:19.000 All of this.

00:40:19.000 And then I watched the whole thing last night, watched part of it.

00:40:23.000 Again, this morning, but all the other news is so pressing, I'm going to cover it more on a special Saturday show and Sunday and Monday.

00:40:29.000 I mean, it's so big, we need to unpack it all.

00:40:30.000 But we saw a real intellect, no matter what you think about Putin, he's obviously a strong man and doesn't play games, that is in charge of a country.

00:40:38.000 The fifth largest economy in the world, the largest nuclear power, and that Tucker asked some pretty tough questions, too, about, hey, you need to release that Wall Street Journal journalist right now.

00:40:47.000 I expect to take him home with me.

00:40:48.000 I mean, Tucker said, no, don't you debate that he's a hostage.

00:40:52.000 And Putin at first said, well, he's an agent.

00:40:54.000 Well, OK, we'll probably release him.

00:40:56.000 So you can see the respect they mean.

00:40:58.000 Nobody talks to Putin like that, but they know he's so real.

00:41:01.000 And the Russians kept saying, we just want into the West.

00:41:04.000 We just want to make money with you.

00:41:05.000 We don't want to be communists anymore.

00:41:07.000 And he used all the examples of NATO and how they tried to enter NATO and all of this.

00:41:12.000 And I mean, I think the interview was so intellectual.

00:41:15.000 It's already gotten hundreds of millions of views on Exelon.

00:41:17.000 It'll get a billion views by the time it's all done.

00:41:19.000 One way or another, the clips will get tens of billions of views.

00:41:22.000 This was one of the biggest interviews ever.

00:41:23.000 This was like moon landing level coverage.

00:41:25.000 I mean, if the left would have not attacked it, it wouldn't have gotten the views.

00:41:28.000 Again, the power structure has inherited American greatness.

00:41:35.000 I mean, you worked with all these really smart, and the IQs were higher, people were harder working.

00:41:40.000 I mean, you worked around Nixon, who was really the president and the master of statecraft.

00:41:44.000 And then I look at people today, especially the Democrats, they are mental midgets who've inherited all this power and they're so dangerous. 0.64

00:41:52.000 And Tucker brought that up.

00:41:54.000 Then you see this incredibly competent, shrewd Putin, the complete opposite of Biden.

00:41:59.000 And it's just, it was just an incredible illustration.

00:42:04.000 That's my take.

00:42:05.000 What is your take?

00:42:07.000 Well, first of all, it was fascinating.

00:42:09.000 Obviously, Putin, he's got the cold, steely eyes of a killer, clearly in command of the facts, an interesting sense of humor, pushed back several times.

00:42:22.000 He detailed the treachery of dealing with the United States under George H.W.

00:42:26.000 Bush, who basically said, I had a great relationship with him, except for he lied to me.

00:42:31.000 His frustration with what he thought would happen after the fall of the Iron Curtain.

00:42:39.000 I was thinking, as I watched this, how disappointed Nixon would have been because we had an opportunity to achieve a real lasting peace.

00:42:48.000 We clearly had an opportunity to have a missile defense system that might have protected us from Islamic maniacs, but the Russians clearly seemed to be repelled. 0.99

00:43:00.000 What's laughable, Alex, is this guy John Kirby, who was the spokesman for the Defense Department, urging people not to watch.

00:43:09.000 I mean, can you imagine not to watch?

00:43:11.000 Well, number one, doesn't he know when you tell your kids, like your dad says, don't get in my playboys, the first thing you do when he goes to play golf is get in the playboys?

00:43:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:20.000 So in this particular case, he says, Don't watch him, Vladimir Putin is not credible.

00:43:25.000 Well, sadly, based on what we know, Mr. Putin is substantially more credible than John Kirby.

00:43:32.000 Just days ago, the people in this administration were telling us that our southern border was secure, just for an example.

00:43:40.000 So you're right, there's a huge amount there.

00:43:43.000 It's 127 minutes.

00:43:46.000 I watched every bit of it.

00:43:48.000 It's very interesting how hysterical the left is.

00:43:54.000 Just based on the idea that people will be exposed to Putin's arguments.

00:43:59.000 It shows they've lost control and others signed them.

00:44:02.000 They're totally dead.

00:44:03.000 How would a genius of Putin level, I mean, how would Nixon, if he was president today, how would Richard Nixon deal with Putin?

00:44:13.000 I think he would see opportunity for both peace and prosperity for both our countries.

00:44:18.000 I mean, these people have the nuclear bomb and you can't just keep brushing them off and lying to them.

00:44:24.000 I thought that that historical beginning, which I thought in the beginning might just be stonewalling, Well, he laid that out for a specific reason. 0.99

00:44:33.000 I think we've missed a classic opportunity.

00:44:36.000 I still, I don't have the benign view of China that he does.

00:44:41.000 I think China... You know, I agree.

00:44:42.000 That was the biggest thing.

00:44:43.000 It's this Yeezy pink thing.

00:44:44.000 And Russia's never trusted China, but now they're having to work with him because of the war. 0.68

00:44:47.000 But absolutely, Putin basically said, we're 1,100 years old, man.

00:44:52.000 We're not communist.

00:44:53.000 That's a very good summation of the arguments.

00:44:54.000 Ukraine away and he explained all that. He was like dude we're not communists. He

00:44:58.000 said we're Orthodox Christians, we're having a bunch of babies, we want to make

00:45:01.000 money, leave us alone. That's a very good summation of the arguments. I kind of

00:45:08.000 think it's funny that no one called for the prosecution of George Stephanopoulos

00:45:12.000 when he interviewed Putin.

00:45:15.000 Nobody called for the prosecution of Mike Wallace when he interviewed Putin.

00:45:19.000 Nobody called for the prosecution of Barbara Walters when she interviewed Putin.

00:45:23.000 He's the same guy then as he was now.

00:45:26.000 Roger, I know you gotta go, but I gotta go to break.

00:45:28.000 Can you hold until five averages to finish up with how you think they're gonna move against Trump next?

00:45:33.000 And then also tell us where to find your show.

00:45:35.000 Sure, absolutely.

00:45:36.000 We're going to break in two minutes, but I got to do this or we won't be here.

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00:47:30.000 That's why it's so strong.

00:47:31.000 What's in that?

00:47:32.000 Folic acid.

00:47:33.000 This is the breakdown concentrate of folic acid after the cells break it down.

00:47:38.000 So this just goes right in there like nitrous oxide in a race car, okay?

00:47:43.000 So you go from 800 horsepower to 1500 horsepower when you turn on the nitrous.

00:47:48.000 I can't even take this, okay?

00:47:51.000 Okay, I turn into a psychotic goblin.

00:47:54.000 Okay, but I'm just telling you right now, you want next level financial energy,

00:47:57.000 get it, infowarestore.com.

00:48:00.000 Roger, we're coming right back to you.

00:48:01.000 What's the best website for you, stonezone.com?

00:48:04.000 Stonezone.com, absolutely.

00:48:06.000 Wow, look at that amazing individual right there.

00:48:09.000 That's a survivor, that's a fighter, that's a maverick.

00:48:12.000 I have the coolest job.

00:48:13.000 I know all the cool people, man.

00:48:16.000 Tucker Carlson, Roger Stone, Joe Rogan, everybody else.

00:48:19.000 Wow, I love my job!

00:48:20.000 And I get to know all of you!

00:48:22.000 We'll be right back in two minutes with Roger Stone, then David Icke.

00:48:26.000 The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us.

00:48:29.000 But if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of, is it pro-human or is it anti-human, we start to win.

00:48:37.000 And that's why I had the idea for Team Humanity.

00:48:39.000 I brought it up to Elon Musk.

00:48:40.000 He loved the idea.

00:48:41.000 What would you call the debates and discussions about a pro-human future?

00:48:45.000 Just Team Humanity?

00:48:45.000 Yeah, Team Humanity.

00:48:47.000 Absolutely.

00:48:47.000 And so we have the t-shirt.

00:48:49.000 Team Humanity with a nuclear family standing against the globalists. 0.78

00:48:52.000 This shirt is a great conversation starter, but it also is a fundraiser to keep InfoWars on the air so we can promote and support Team Humanity.

00:49:00.000 I want to thank you all for your past support, but I want to encourage you all now to understand that this is a revolution against the globalists, and it is so critical now to signal the fact that you are part of Team Humanity.

00:49:12.000 We're told humans are the problem.

00:49:13.000 We're told we're killing the Earth.

00:49:15.000 We're told all this garbage, so we hate ourselves and stand down and roll over and die.

00:49:19.000 We're not going to do that.

00:49:21.000 In the last nine years, Putin has told the West and NATO hundreds of times, face-to-face, at every major meeting, I'm going to invade Ukraine if you continue to push out the Russians and move weapons in and have them join NATO. 0.72

00:49:41.000 Because that is not Russia's doorstep.

00:49:43.000 That's where Russia was born. 0.98

00:49:44.000 And Putin gave it a history lesson on airstrike.

00:49:46.000 I predicted he'd do that.

00:49:47.000 I nailed it, didn't I?

00:49:48.000 First hour.

00:49:50.000 I did a little 10-minute history lesson myself, so you'll probably hear this, because that's what Putin's trying to explain to people.

00:49:55.000 And the same globalist arrogance now, they've lost Ukraine, Ukraine's defeated, they're getting ready to get rid of Zelensky, but they keep doubling down. 0.64

00:50:02.000 So on politics, as positive things are, as strong as Trump is, They just keep escalating.

00:50:08.000 So what do you expect next for them to throw at Trump?

00:50:10.000 And what can we do to protect President Trump?

00:50:12.000 I know a big thing is he's run out of money when it comes to his campaign.

00:50:16.000 And the media is giggling and laughing about that.

00:50:19.000 So just because he's ahead doesn't mean he doesn't need support and donations.

00:50:23.000 I think we can't get overconfident here is what I'm saying.

00:50:26.000 Roger, what do you think?

00:50:28.000 Alex, I totally agree with that.

00:50:29.000 One of the things that surprised me in these court proceedings over the last 10 days, as you know, former Attorney General Ed Meese, who was Ronald Reagan's Attorney General, had filed an amicus brief with the U.S.

00:50:41.000 Supreme Court saying that the appointment of Jack Smith was illegal under the Appointments Clause because he was not a sitting U.S.

00:50:50.000 attorney and because his appointment was never approved by the U.S.

00:50:55.000 Senate.

00:50:56.000 I'm very familiar with this argument.

00:50:58.000 One of the witnesses in the case against me, who did not want to testify, raised this argument.

00:51:03.000 The trial judge in D.C.

00:51:07.000 denied it.

00:51:07.000 It went to the D.C.

00:51:09.000 Court of Appeals.

00:51:10.000 It was denied a second time.

00:51:12.000 I think wrongly decided, but a politically charged case, as you will remember.

00:51:17.000 What I don't understand is Why Trump's lawyers have not raised this issue in any jurisdiction in fact the court Specifically asked a Trump's lawyer to be prepared to comment on that issue based I guess solely on the me so that's totals.

00:51:34.000 That's total sabotage I mean seriously so many Trump lawyers have been indicted I think there's people who don't know the law when the judge asked I want you to brief me on this That's what you do that.

00:51:44.000 That's like first grade level understanding to not do that.

00:51:48.000 I mean that this is insane Well, look, it is possible that there's some strategy here.

00:51:52.000 I'm not a lawyer, but it would seem to me it's a legitimate action, could certainly be filed in the Florida case.

00:52:00.000 Excellent piece online about this by a couple of non-Trump loving college law...

00:52:07.000 Trump is at the top of his game, both politically and personally.

00:52:11.000 He knows he's winning.

00:52:11.000 Trump, but make a compelling case over the actual underlying legal issues.

00:52:18.000 Trump is at the top of his game, both politically and personally.

00:52:21.000 He knows he's winning.

00:52:23.000 He knows that the more the underlying issues surrounding this disastrous war in Ukraine

00:52:30.000 unfold, the more the two-tier justice system vis-a-vis how he's treated compared to Joe

00:52:39.000 Biden and the retention.

00:52:41.000 All these things work to his advantages.

00:52:44.000 Alex, obviously I pray for his personal safety.

00:52:49.000 And yes, I agree with you.

00:52:50.000 There's no limit to what those globalists will do to try to hold on to power.

00:52:56.000 But I have a feeling that God is going to answer our prayers.

00:53:00.000 I have a feeling that Donald Trump is going to be back in the White House.

00:53:04.000 I have a feeling that he's going to ride to the rescue and save this country.

00:53:09.000 People should support him.

00:53:10.000 Go to DonaldJTrump.com.

00:53:12.000 DonaldJTrump.com.

00:53:13.000 You can make a contribution.

00:53:15.000 If you don't want to use your credit card because you don't trust the internet, you can mail him a check.

00:53:20.000 But yes, his campaign needs money.

00:53:22.000 The Wall Street types, the billionaires, the millionaires, they're not for Donald Trump.

00:53:27.000 He has to rely on the same people who go to the People asked if he's real.

00:53:30.000 He's getting on average like $50 donations and Haley's getting, you know, $100,000 donations.

00:53:36.000 She's with the New World Order, he's not. 0.65

00:53:38.000 That is exactly right.

00:53:39.000 So the average person, the small business person, man or woman, Trump needs your support.

00:53:45.000 Go to DonaldJTrump.com and then go to the Infowars store because this nitrous boost stuff is unbelievable.

00:53:53.000 Roger, we love you.

00:53:53.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:53:54.000 Godspeed.

00:53:55.000 You just get better and better.

00:53:57.000 Many thanks, Alex.

00:53:57.000 God bless you.

00:53:58.000 That is a political badass, folks.

00:54:00.000 That's why they attacked him, because he's one of our best brains.

00:54:04.000 That's the field marshal right there.

00:54:05.000 See you, buddy.

00:54:06.000 All right.

00:54:07.000 David Ike coming up.

00:54:08.000 I love him.

00:54:09.000 But he says, "I'm a minion now."

00:54:10.000 We'll be right back.

00:54:11.000 Stay with us.

00:54:12.000 All right.

00:54:13.000 I've been wanting to get him on for months, and we've got him, best-selling author, former

00:54:21.000 top BBC broadcaster, former head of the Green Party, but better known, the last 35 years

00:54:26.000 since he got thunderstruck with a vision of the coming New World Order.

00:54:30.000 I really respect him.

00:54:31.000 I know he's a great guy.

00:54:33.000 David Icke is here with us and I think he serves a great purpose, you know, being kind of the counterbalance to Elon Musk and the things he's been doing.

00:54:42.000 But I'll be honest, I see Elon moving, you know, if he was pointed towards the new world order

00:54:47.000 five years ago, I see moving rapidly, you know, in a 180.

00:54:51.000 And so I'm positive for the good changes happening and how it's helping accelerate the awakening.

00:54:57.000 I'm not gonna turn the lights off and turn my back on Elon Musk.

00:55:01.000 But that said, I don't think it's fair when David comes up with this term,

00:55:05.000 the mainstream alternative media or MAM, or minions of Elon Musk.

00:55:10.000 I'm also not looking to gift horse in the mouth.

00:55:12.000 I'm not censoring a damn thing I say.

00:55:15.000 I'm more hardcore than I've ever been.

00:55:18.000 And you got Joe Rogan coming out saying Alex Jones is right about everything.

00:55:23.000 New world order with Aaron Rodgers.

00:55:24.000 We gotta stop him.

00:55:25.000 I mean, I know Joe for 25 years.

00:55:27.000 I know he's not an operative.

00:55:28.000 He is waking up completely.

00:55:31.000 Just like David Icke did 35 years ago.

00:55:34.000 And so that's where I'm at on this, and I turned down the $10 million a year contracts and the book deals to be the new Rush Limbaugh, Roger Ailes, Fox News shows, because they were straight up, you're going to work for us now, you're going to do what we say.

00:55:47.000 No.

00:55:48.000 But if somebody says, here, you're banned off this, and now you can counter, everybody's been attacking you.

00:55:53.000 Then I mean, I'm going to use it.

00:55:55.000 OK, now that that doesn't mean I'm going to put my knee pads on and, you know, give give Elon Musk a blowjob. 0.99

00:56:01.000 So I'm going to let you run with this.

00:56:03.000 And I don't really want to have a debate.

00:56:04.000 I called it a debate because that makes it more interesting.

00:56:06.000 But a thought provoking discussion.

00:56:09.000 But I will say, David, I admire you.

00:56:12.000 And while you're criticizing me and I get your daughter died, I'm so sorry for that.

00:56:15.000 What a beautiful creature.

00:56:16.000 But she's still alive.

00:56:16.000 We all know that she's transcended.

00:56:18.000 And we'll all, you know, interface with her completely soon.

00:56:22.000 But.

00:56:23.000 And beautiful stuff you've done.

00:56:24.000 I retweeted it.

00:56:25.000 And I'm sending emails and I get it.

00:56:27.000 It went in your spam.

00:56:27.000 That happens to me too as part of the censorship.

00:56:29.000 It's one of the biggest areas is those spam blockers.

00:56:32.000 And then I'm trying to get you on saying, hey, I don't think this while I'm being called this minion thing.

00:56:38.000 It's a little hurtful.

00:56:38.000 I'm not mad at you.

00:56:39.000 I respect you as a friend.

00:56:40.000 I love you.

00:56:41.000 But and I know that's mutual.

00:56:43.000 You know, I'm real, but I've not been seduced by the dark side.

00:56:46.000 I'm not dancing to the fiddle of Elon Musk.

00:56:50.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:56:53.000 Right.

00:56:53.000 Well, first of all, I'm not saying that people shouldn't use TwitterX.

00:56:57.000 Of course they should use it.

00:56:59.000 I use it.

00:57:00.000 It's a vehicle at the moment, for as long as it lasts, to get information out.

00:57:05.000 An M in MAM doesn't stand for Minion.

00:57:09.000 It stands for Mainstream.

00:57:12.000 And there has become a mainstream alternative media, which has dominated the airwaves, if you like.

00:57:22.000 And if we could just start before we get into Musk, one of the things that I've observed, and that is that when I started out, there was no alternative media, just one or two people.

00:57:36.000 And I watched the alternative media emerge.

00:57:40.000 And although, you know, it was still seeing left and right to a certain extent, There was a lot of streetwise people who were realizing that left and right is a puppet show and that the real decisions that are working through left and right are being made by deeper levels than the left-right political level, what I call the global cult.

00:58:15.000 And creating a dialectic where they play the two sides of golf against, which you pioneered exposing.

00:58:20.000 Yeah, but one of the expressions of the global cult, a level down, is what people call the deep state.

00:58:30.000 So, when you look at a situation, maybe we can get into elements of the Putin interview in regard to this later, you see At the left and right level, we're left, they're the liberals, we're against the liberals.

00:58:50.000 But you go a step deeper into the rabbit hole, into the web, to the cult level, and what appears to be the situation here can be very different here.

00:59:01.000 And what I've noticed, particularly since COVID, is that this, what I call mainstream of the alternative media, that gets all the numbers basically, has regressed back into this left-right paradigm.

00:59:20.000 So if you look at the Putin interview, and there was a lot that I agreed with, I've been pointing out for years and years and years that NATO was poking him in the chest to get him to invade Ukraine.

00:59:35.000 But if you look at it from this level, you've got a Putin interview With Tucker Carlson.

00:59:44.000 And the response is, look, the liberals don't want it!

00:59:47.000 Look at the liberals!

00:59:48.000 Hey, it's great, innit?

00:59:50.000 But go deeper and look at the bigger agenda.

00:59:54.000 And that is the dismantling of Western society and the dismantling of Western power in the world.

01:00:05.000 That's why they've put a moron in the White House for the last four bloody years or whatever it is.

01:00:11.000 Three years.

01:00:13.000 And that's why they've opened the southern border.

01:00:17.000 That's why they've opened the borders to Europe.

01:00:20.000 Because they are dismantling Western culture.

01:00:25.000 And what is happening is the power in the world is moving eastward.

01:00:32.000 It's moving to China, and it's moving to their alliance with Russia, and the East in general, and Iran's part of that as well, and the BRICS.

01:00:41.000 And the globalists have to know their policies are doing that.

01:00:45.000 And just to be fair then, let's interject here, and I'm not the apologist for Elon Musk here, but what I'm saying is, he's come out massively against the open borders, says it's to destroy Western culture as well.

01:00:56.000 He sounds like David Icke and Alex Jones.

01:00:58.000 Yeah, yeah, but it's easy to, words are easier telling you what you want to hear, mate.

01:01:02.000 I'll get more into Musk as we go along, the questions that are not being asked that should be.

01:01:08.000 But anyway, what I'm saying is that you've got this movement eastward in terms of power, quite demonstrably, that's what the BRICS thing is all about.

01:01:16.000 And so over a period of time, because you're coming from this cult level, not left and right, the cult level that works through left and right.

01:01:27.000 Over this period, this cult has been orchestrating the transfer of global production massively out of America, American corporations and American jobs, and Europe too, into China and the East, to give them power over the supply chain in so many areas, even basic things. 0.58

01:01:51.000 And Taiwan is this real global center for things like superconductors and what-have-you.

01:01:58.000 Mainly the chips for AI are almost all made there.

01:02:03.000 Yeah, so if China gets that, and that's the plan in the end, then they completely dominate global society in so many ways.

01:02:17.000 And so, if you look at the Putin interview, And you look at it not from left, right, or the liberals don't like it.

01:02:26.000 You look at the cult level.

01:02:28.000 It suits the cult that the pushbackers in America and Europe and the West in general see Putin as some kind of hero.

01:02:41.000 Because what was he doing in the In the interview with Tucker Carlson, he was pushing China.

01:02:49.000 You shouldn't not stop negotiating with China.

01:02:52.000 Oh, China's foreign policy is not aggressive.

01:02:55.000 You tell the people of Africa and South America that it's not aggressive.

01:03:01.000 So it suits that cult level for Putin to be a hero.

01:03:07.000 I'm not saying he didn't say some right things about About Ukraine.

01:03:12.000 I'm saying... By the way, David, I totally agree with you, and that was the big area, was him saying America's been surpassed, China's the way to go, Xi Jinping's not expansitory, but we know that the globalists set up communist China, put them in power in 49, transferred all the stuff to them. 0.56

01:03:28.000 Now, nine years ago, they claimed there was a split, and this is all going on.

01:03:32.000 Take us to the end of your extrapolation, because I respect your view.

01:03:36.000 So what you've got, as I've said so many times, China is the blueprint for the world.

01:03:44.000 What's happening in China in terms of control and suppression and the digital concentration... It's the model.

01:03:52.000 It's the model and that was set up to be the model.

01:03:55.000 So what I'm saying is, you know, if you look at it at left and right, then you can see it a certain way and most people have.

01:04:03.000 But if you look at it from this cult big picture level, then what you have is the pushbackers of the West, that kind of seeing Putin as some kind of hero, when he's absolutely in bed with the Chinese, that the pushback is a danger.

01:04:22.000 So, what people need to- And Putin, and Putin, and- we're having a discussion here.

01:04:27.000 Usually I have you on, you just run because I love hearing you, but I want to add some things.

01:04:31.000 We have Putin praising Elon Musk, saying he's an amazing, wonderful person, and Elon won't talk about China.

01:04:37.000 I was waiting for you to bring that up.

01:04:38.000 That's the one big thing I see Elon is up to there.

01:04:42.000 You talk about Neuralink too, but it's the China thing.

01:04:46.000 Yeah, well, we can get into Musk as we go along, but the point I'm making here is that the power is moving east, and the more that... Sure, but my point is, David, you say it wasn't Minion.

01:05:01.000 I know MAM means, you know, mainstream alternative media, but there were little comments.

01:05:06.000 I don't have the tweets in front of me, the X things, but it was like little groveling people to the... Let me just finish.

01:05:11.000 You're here exposing, hey, I'm talking about Elon being with China and Putin too, so I'm doing this every day just like you are.

01:05:18.000 So when you say that, oh, I'm changing, because you put my name on there, I'm trying to be straight up with you, when you're saying I'm changing what I'm saying, I don't think you're tuning in because I'm saying the same stuff you're saying, buddy, and I agree with you.

01:05:32.000 Alex, it's not about you, mate, and it's not about me.

01:05:35.000 It's about what the hell is happening in the world.

01:05:38.000 And that's the point I'm making.

01:05:42.000 Now, if we move to Elon Musk, the thing that I've been observing is that so many things that he would have been questioned about You know, let's personalize this.

01:05:59.000 I'm talking about the mainstream alternative media in general.

01:06:03.000 Before he took over Twitter, turned it into X, the same things are not being questioned in the same way.

01:06:10.000 I mean, you know, the foundation of human control, where we're going, is connecting the human brain to artificial intelligence, not least via the cloud, the electromagnetic cloud of 5G, 6G, 7G to come, which is being generated by the towers.

01:06:36.000 But fundamentally, if you want it global, it's being generated by low orbit satellites.

01:06:44.000 Now, without this cloud, this agenda cannot happen.

01:06:49.000 This is the cloud that Ray Kurzweil at Google talks about where he said that the human brain is going to be connected to the cloud, artificial intelligence, and then he says artificial intelligence will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is basically negligible.

01:07:09.000 So this cloud is fundamental.

01:07:12.000 And SpaceX, Elon Musk's SpaceX, is leading the way in putting up low-orbit satellites to beam this stuff at the Earth.

01:07:24.000 And so the question is, if you are against this New World Order, This human control system and hive mind, why are you facilitating it and bragging about it in posts on Twitter X that you're putting these low orbit satellites up there?

01:07:44.000 And you know, if Elon Musk is such a rebel, such a threat to the system, how come that SpaceX gets all these contracts, the massive amounts of money, From people like NASA and the Pentagon.

01:08:03.000 Only a few months ago, they were awarded a contract by the Pentagon to take over and create something called Starshield, which is the military government communication system version of Starlink.

01:08:20.000 Now, these things should be questioned.

01:08:23.000 When Tucker Carlson interviews Elon Musk, when Joe Rogan interviews Elon Musk, they should be asking, how do you square this?

01:08:34.000 Now, the connection to the cloud is meant to be via chipping.

01:08:42.000 And here we have Neuralink from someone who says AI could be the end of humanity.

01:08:50.000 It turns out more and more AI stuff, the Neuralink has just had the first human trial.

01:08:57.000 Now, I think it's a bit of a kind of diversion because the real connection to the cloud is through nanotechnology, not least that which was in the and is in the the fake vaccine.

01:09:10.000 But it's still going down the same road of chipping.

01:09:15.000 Okay, so David, you're a great Great, you're a guy that does a great job lecturing, and I agree with everything you're saying, but let me just interject, you're bringing this up.

01:09:29.000 I'm just making my point, mate.

01:09:33.000 You're getting about 80% of the time.

01:09:35.000 So, all I'm saying is, and I'm not trying to be mean to you, but I actually... I don't care, mate.

01:09:41.000 It's okay, you know, hey, we're friends, aren't we?

01:09:45.000 I like you, you like me.

01:09:47.000 Yeah, just go ahead with what you say.

01:09:49.000 No, but I'm going to ask you, do you think I'm an agent of the New World Order?

01:09:53.000 No, the point is, as I've said many times, you don't have to be.

01:10:00.000 A knowing agent of the colour.

01:10:03.000 What a useful idiot.

01:10:05.000 If you have a certain mentality and you focus, for instance, on left-right politics and they're the people that get the promotion and the numbers, Then you don't have to be part of it, you just have to be... No, I agree, and I'm the guy that coined the term left-right paradigm.

01:10:25.000 What I'm trying to say here is, if I saw the left waking up and taking on the globalists, I would support that.

01:10:31.000 It's not a leftist thing, it's a populist awakening.

01:10:34.000 And I see the major beachhead worldwide of populism being called right-wing.

01:10:38.000 So that just identifies that, but I totally get what you're saying.

01:10:42.000 But here's what I wanted to agree with you on.

01:10:44.000 When he came out and said, we're going to put it in shopping malls and everybody's going to get brain chips five years ago, I said, look, they've already got this in government laboratories.

01:10:51.000 Microsoft's doing it at IBM.

01:10:53.000 He's popularizing it.

01:10:54.000 I don't like this.

01:10:56.000 Then he backed off that, which I thought was a terrible idea that you have brain chips to go to school.

01:11:01.000 But if somebody is paralyzed or somebody is blind, then I think the technology is great.

01:11:05.000 The problem is what Trojan horses will they put in?

01:11:07.000 I just wanted to add that.

01:11:09.000 So I'm not an apologist for Elon Musk.

01:11:11.000 I've just been looking at all the angles of it.

01:11:13.000 Go ahead.

01:11:15.000 Yeah, well, as I was saying, his company Neuralink is pushing the way, at least popularizing the concept of a brain chip connecting to artificial intelligence.

01:11:29.000 And if you connect to artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence becomes your mind.

01:11:36.000 And then you've got another agenda.

01:11:39.000 These are all WEF agendas, by the way, which is Autonomous vehicles, where the computer will decide where you can and cannot go, not your personal choice.

01:11:54.000 And so you have Tesla.

01:11:56.000 So what I'm saying is, you look at the companies and the things that are done with these that he's fronting up.

01:12:03.000 And these need to be questioned.

01:12:06.000 And since he took over Twitter X, in very large areas, they're ceasing to be questioned.

01:12:12.000 I'll give you an example.

01:12:14.000 No, I think that's fair.

01:12:14.000 I don't want you to make your point.

01:12:16.000 But then after you're done, because I don't want to forget this, let's just say you're completely right.

01:12:21.000 That's why we have you here, because we're not censoring and I respect you and we really like you a lot, David.

01:12:26.000 You're a little perturbed with me.

01:12:29.000 Let's say he is a terrible guy.

01:12:31.000 What is their plan with him then?

01:12:33.000 And why are they doing this?

01:12:35.000 Why are they having him act like he's on our side?

01:12:37.000 That shows me we're really winning big time if they're having to send him in and try to co-op things.

01:12:41.000 But just go ahead.

01:12:42.000 Right.

01:12:43.000 Well, yeah, I'll come to that in a second.

01:12:46.000 And I want to.

01:12:46.000 But I just want to make this point.

01:12:49.000 There's a Dutch activist.

01:12:50.000 I'm not picking on picking on her.

01:12:51.000 It's just a good example.

01:12:52.000 This is this is something that is across the board.

01:12:55.000 There's a Dutch activist called Eva Vlaandingerbroek.

01:13:00.000 And she did a video, I don't know, maybe just a bit over a year ago.

01:13:06.000 And it was excellent.

01:13:07.000 It was her speaking.

01:13:09.000 And she said, Elon Musk is not your friend.

01:13:13.000 He's pushing the world towards transhumanism.

01:13:17.000 And she was right.

01:13:18.000 Round of applause.

01:13:20.000 But the same Eva today is, you know, like a lovesick teenager in relation to Elon Musk.

01:13:28.000 Oh, yeah, Elon this, Elon that.

01:13:30.000 Elon drops a tweet supporting one of hers.

01:13:33.000 Oh, thank you, Elon.

01:13:34.000 This is not where we should be going.

01:13:38.000 We shouldn't be eulogizing anyone.

01:13:40.000 We should be dispassionately, calmly looking at everything.

01:13:45.000 So let's just look at the AI agenda.

01:13:51.000 And how this fits in.

01:13:53.000 You've got people, your Bill Gates's and your Klaus Schwab's, and what they're doing is going hard cell, hard cell AI, connecting AI to the human brain and human genetics.

01:14:11.000 That's what needs to happen.

01:14:13.000 But of course, there's a vast number Of what I call pushbackers in the United States, in Europe, in the world in general, that don't want that.

01:14:24.000 They're not having that.

01:14:26.000 And by the way, Bill Gates came out three months ago and said, we've got to stop the hard sell.

01:14:30.000 He actually said that.

01:14:32.000 Yeah, well, so along comes Elon Musk.

01:14:36.000 And Elon Musk does the soft sell.

01:14:41.000 He is saying, oh, I'm worried about AI, oh, it's terrible, it could be the end of humanity, and then continues to push the AI agenda.

01:14:51.000 But it's not too bad.

01:14:54.000 It can't be as bad because Elon's doing it and he owns Twitter and he's letting people Back on Twitter.

01:15:01.000 And these are the things I'm saying that, you know, we've got to keep questioning these things.

01:15:07.000 I know what you're saying.

01:15:08.000 They did five years of total censorship and it failed.

01:15:12.000 So they said go to plan B and bring in a co-opter to create a false dialectic of Elon on one end of freedom and the hard sellers on the other.

01:15:20.000 And you're saying now we're missing the whole paradigm over there because they put us into a small window.

01:15:24.000 What I'm saying is Look at the outcome.

01:15:29.000 What is the outcome of the hard cell?

01:15:33.000 What is the outcome of the soft cell?

01:15:36.000 At the end of those roads is the same thing.

01:15:40.000 Humans connected to artificial intelligence.

01:15:45.000 And what you're trying to do is pull The people that are resisting the hard sell, you're trying to pull them in.

01:15:53.000 Alright, stay there.

01:15:55.000 Stay there, David.

01:15:56.000 You're making your points, but I agree with most of what you're saying, but you've made statements and things, so I'm not bad for interjecting and bringing things up and telling you I'm saying the same thing I do.

01:16:06.000 Good, good.

01:16:06.000 I do the same thing I do every day.

01:16:08.000 You're on.

01:16:09.000 I love it.

01:16:10.000 And that's what we're doing.

01:16:11.000 So I'm not ma'am.

01:16:12.000 I'm not part of ma'am.

01:16:13.000 Let's just get that straight.

01:16:14.000 All right.

01:16:15.000 We got David Icahn with us.

01:16:16.000 We'll be right back.

01:16:17.000 We'll talk about this more.

01:16:18.000 It's fascinating.

01:16:20.000 Gunther in Tennessee.

01:16:21.000 Thanks for calling, Gunther.

01:16:23.000 Hey, Alex.

01:16:23.000 First time caller.

01:16:24.000 Real quick, wanted to plug your foundational energy.

01:16:26.000 Just started taking that.

01:16:28.000 And, boy, three pills, the recommended dose, I was bouncing off the walls.

01:16:32.000 But I tell you, foundational is the right name for that product because I've cut down to one.

01:16:38.000 And it's like you have a baseline of energy that you were missing before that you got back.

01:16:43.000 So I'm glad you mentioned that because it's methylfolate, the breakdown of folic acid.

01:16:48.000 And a lot of people, particularly Europeans, don't absorb all of the folic acid.

01:16:52.000 So it's not a stimulant.

01:16:53.000 It's a totally natural thing that boosts energy that's foundational.

01:16:57.000 And was I lying to you, or did it not work?

01:17:00.000 No, it was top notch.

01:17:01.000 And I was actually taking Red Pill Plus before, and that's got a little folic acid in it.

01:17:05.000 I think there was a little buildup from this, but the energy from this was no jitters.

01:17:09.000 I mean, it's top notch.

01:17:10.000 It's a great product.

01:17:11.000 Well, thank you so much.

01:17:12.000 Yeah, no, folic acid's great and it's in Real Red Pill, but some can't break it down.

01:17:16.000 This is the breakdown of it.

01:17:17.000 That's exactly it.

01:17:19.000 All right, I get David Icke's point about the new Hollywood is Elon Musk.

01:17:24.000 But the system knew they were failing and that all the independent media just a year ago had all the biggest audiences despite the censorship.

01:17:32.000 It was failing.

01:17:34.000 So if you go with David's argument, let's just do this for, you know, not Devil's advocate, but David Icke advocate.

01:17:40.000 They said, okay, send in Elon Musk, and then give them limited freedom there, and then we'll be in control of the narrative again.

01:17:48.000 If that's the truth, well, it shows the system's failing.

01:17:51.000 And I remember you on my show, in like 2000, I mean, you've been coming on my show, the first time I interviewed you was like 1997 or something.

01:18:02.000 But I remember you in the early 2000s saying, part of my download is, your download's been proven really accurate, so I respect you.

01:18:10.000 But then I think you can't look at what other people are doing and with a wide net and say, oh, they've been co-opted.

01:18:15.000 No, it's just people being positive about a breach in the wall.

01:18:17.000 You know, whoever blew it.

01:18:19.000 You're like, I see a global awakening.

01:18:22.000 Starting in 2016, they try to suppress it, and then by 2025, we're going to decide where we're going.

01:18:29.000 If we make the right decision, I'm paraphrasing it, we can beat them by 2030.

01:18:32.000 If not, they'll still get beaten.

01:18:33.000 I mean, that's what you were saying then.

01:18:35.000 I can dig the clips up.

01:18:37.000 And I don't think Trump's perfect, or anybody's perfect.

01:18:39.000 But my point is, you nailed that.

01:18:41.000 And I go to the grocery store, and five years ago we'd get screamed at.

01:18:45.000 I'd shake 30, 40 hands, but I'd be screamed at two or three times.

01:18:49.000 It's been a year and a half, I've been screamed at twice.

01:18:52.000 And everywhere I go to pump gas or walk the dog or, you know, go anywhere, all I see is positive.

01:18:58.000 It doesn't mean I'm perfect, but I mean, I know I'm real.

01:19:02.000 And I just see a huge awakening happening.

01:19:04.000 And that goes to your point, well, they're going to need to co-opt it.

01:19:06.000 So how would they strike back?

01:19:08.000 It'd be something like must.

01:19:10.000 The thing is, Alex, you're kind of missing my point.

01:19:15.000 I'm not saying there's not a global awakening.

01:19:17.000 When I started out in 1990, you couldn't fill a phone booth.

01:19:22.000 David, I'm not missing what you said.

01:19:24.000 I said there's a global awakening and you're saying Musk is trying to co-opt it.

01:19:28.000 That's what I just said.

01:19:29.000 Okay, well, I misunderstood you then.

01:19:32.000 But the thing is that I'm not saying there's not a global awakening.

01:19:36.000 There is.

01:19:37.000 But if, you know, if you are this cult and you see this happening, you want to take it into a cold... That's what I said!

01:19:45.000 I said, are you saying that's what they see?

01:19:49.000 Stop making it personal and let's just have a discussion about what's going on.

01:19:54.000 So, the question then is, What happened when Elon Musk purchased Twitter?

01:20:03.000 OK, because that was the change.

01:20:06.000 That was the change.

01:20:07.000 That's when so many people in the alternative media started eulogizing him instead of questioning him and exposing him, as they would have done if he hadn't bought Twitter.

01:20:19.000 So he's bought Twitter and he puts out the Twitter files.

01:20:25.000 And he shows that Twitter's operation, who could post and what could be posted, was basically completely controlled by the Deep State.

01:20:37.000 And if you said to people, was Twitter controlled by the Deep State before Elon Musk, they'd say, yeah, all the Twitter files, they showed it.

01:20:46.000 Yeah.

01:20:47.000 OK.

01:20:48.000 So the Deep State was in a position that was exactly what it wanted then.

01:20:54.000 It was controlling the narrative, who could post and who couldn't, just like Facebook and YouTube and all these people.

01:21:02.000 So my question is, why did they sell it to Musk then, who is supposed to be this free speech absolutist?

01:21:08.000 Why would they do that?

01:21:10.000 And then you ask, OK, so what's happened as a result?

01:21:14.000 And what's happened as a result is exactly what I'm talking about and challenging, which is people have stopped questioning all the ways That this man is serving the agenda of the cult and the World Economic Forum etc.

01:21:30.000 They've stopped doing it in the way they would have done had he not bought and run Twitter.

01:21:36.000 The guy's still...

01:21:38.000 Demanding a carbon tax.

01:21:42.000 He wants a guaranteed income.

01:21:45.000 All these are World Economic Forum policies.

01:21:49.000 He's still doing it.

01:21:50.000 He's been doing it in terms of the carbon tax going way back.

01:21:55.000 He spoke at the Paris climate You repost stuff from a few years ago, and I'm not defending him, but he's not been promoting it now, but he has a few years ago.

01:22:05.000 He needs to answer for that.

01:22:05.000 You're right.

01:22:07.000 So give us your 35,000 foot view here.

01:22:10.000 What do you think is happening?

01:22:13.000 Why were they forced, if you're right, to bring him in?

01:22:15.000 And where do you think this is going?

01:22:17.000 And how do we respond?

01:22:19.000 Well, where it's going, in part in relation to Twitter X, ...is described by Linda Iaccarino, the CEO.

01:22:31.000 By the way, can I interrupt you?

01:22:32.000 Start over.

01:22:33.000 You're right.

01:22:34.000 I'm wrong.

01:22:35.000 I didn't know this.

01:22:35.000 He just, a few days ago, called for carbon tax.

01:22:38.000 The video you put out was old.

01:22:40.000 You're right.

01:22:40.000 He did it.

01:22:41.000 There it is right there, David Icke.

01:22:42.000 That's right.

01:22:42.000 Put it back on screen.

01:22:43.000 Start over, David.

01:22:44.000 Yeah, he did.

01:22:45.000 So, Linda Iaccarino, who's got very major World Economic Forum connections, starts talking about Uh, freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

01:23:00.000 What is that?

01:23:00.000 Shadowbanning.

01:23:01.000 That's shadowbanning.

01:23:02.000 Shadowbanning.

01:23:03.000 She talks about the fact that if it's lawful but awful, it's lawful!

01:23:12.000 Who decides if it's awful?

01:23:13.000 Oh, well, we do!

01:23:15.000 If it's lawful but awful, then you're gonna really struggle to see it and find it.

01:23:20.000 Now, this is not a free speech platform.

01:23:23.000 Now, what this means is through your algorithms, You can emphasize people you want to be seen, and you want to be promoted, and you want people to follow them and think that that's where it's at.

01:23:37.000 And then those that are not, then you start shadow banning them.

01:23:40.000 And there are many, many people who are on Twitter, decent people, who are putting stuff out, Josh Sigerson being one.

01:23:49.000 who was clearly shadow banned by the numbers that they get.

01:23:55.000 And so this is the start of a slippery slope.

01:23:59.000 But the point is, it's not Elon Musk or Twitter or whatever.

01:24:05.000 It's how that has stopped much of the alternative media that would have been calling him out

01:24:15.000 for these services to the WF agenda, but are not doing it now.

01:24:22.000 And the other thing that's happening in the mainstream alternative media Is that people are coming in since COVID and are now being promoted as the people we're supposed to listen to, the people that get massive audiences when they are given interviews with Tucker Carlson, people like Brett Weinstein.

01:24:45.000 And Brett Weinstein's interviewed on Tucker Carlson as if he's some kind of expert and activist on COVID.

01:24:53.000 And this is the man who bought every aspect of COVID virtually.

01:24:58.000 And there's a video of him during the fake pandemic.

01:25:03.000 Describing how he wore a scarf around his neck so he could pull it up over his face every time he answered the door.

01:25:12.000 And now we're being told that this guy is supposed to be the COVID activist that gets the massive numbers on Tucker Carlson.

01:25:20.000 What about all the people that were calling it out in 2020, Tucker?

01:25:24.000 Well, I was and you were, but David, let me just stop you there.

01:25:27.000 And I actually wrote some notes on this and I forgot the house.

01:25:30.000 This is one of my points.

01:25:32.000 Brett Weinstein, when he went on Tucker, admitted he was wrong and said that it's all a lie, there's a global government takeover, we're being invaded, and the borders are open, and the New World Order is real, and there's a global government... I don't know if you watched the full interview.

01:25:45.000 I bet Tucker wants to interview you.

01:25:48.000 My point is, I know Tucker's for real.

01:25:50.000 Tucker is really woken up now and is a great guy.

01:25:54.000 I mean, he's not the devil.

01:25:55.000 Musk has this background.

01:25:56.000 I get your points there, but just when you just sit there with a bra... I mean, don't we have to be ready to have people that were wrong wake up and join us?

01:26:03.000 What's the problem with Brett Weinstein?

01:26:06.000 Well, yes, we do.

01:26:09.000 But where are the people that caught it out of the time?

01:26:12.000 Where's their promotion?

01:26:14.000 The ones who could see it at the start because of the research they'd done before that didn't buy it, like Brett Weinstein, because they'd done the research.

01:26:22.000 I'll say this.

01:26:23.000 Let me just say this.

01:26:24.000 We're having a debate.

01:26:26.000 No, just a second.

01:26:28.000 You're picking up that I'm saying that Tucker Carlson is a bad person.

01:26:33.000 I'm not saying that.

01:26:37.000 It's what your mentality is, how much you know about the big picture, who you choose to interview or not interview, who you choose to promote and not promote, that's your choice.

01:26:50.000 So you're trying to point this out to get people to think deeper?

01:26:52.000 Of course I am!

01:26:56.000 That's the whole point!

01:26:57.000 The thing is, we're getting caught again on the left-right kind of Puppet show, vaudeville show, and not going to that step beyond it, which is where both sides are being manipulated, and seeing what that... No, I agree.

01:27:16.000 So let me ask you this.

01:27:17.000 Let me ask some questions.

01:27:18.000 Let me ask some questions here, David.

01:27:19.000 I know you can talk for 10 hours.

01:27:20.000 We love you.

01:27:20.000 Everybody loves you.

01:27:21.000 Let me ask some questions here, because you teed this up.

01:27:23.000 We've got to have some of these.

01:27:25.000 Tell us, because I respect you.

01:27:26.000 I think you're one of the big visionaries of our age.

01:27:30.000 If not, the top two or three.

01:27:32.000 Where would Musk take us if we fall for this, if you're right?

01:27:35.000 Where do they want to take us versus what do you think we should do?

01:27:39.000 Well, where they want to take us, both the hard sell and the soft sell, is to a connection between the human brain, the human body, and artificial intelligence.

01:27:52.000 See, the hard sell says, this is where we must go, we should go, look at all the fantastic things, we'll be gods, says Ray Kurzweil.

01:28:00.000 And Elon Musk says, well, I'm worried, but you know, there's no stopping it.

01:28:05.000 So, you know, if we're not going to get left behind by artificial intelligence, we've got to have artificial intelligence connections so that we don't get left behind by artificial intelligence.

01:28:14.000 And at the end of the day, what happens is, Humans are connected to artificial intelligence and that is something that must not happen.

01:28:24.000 Because the moment it does, it's over.

01:28:27.000 So let's talk good news.

01:28:28.000 I agree.

01:28:28.000 I'm going to shut up for five minutes.

01:28:30.000 Hold on, David, David, David, David.

01:28:33.000 This is a discussion and debate.

01:28:34.000 I told you to think.

01:28:36.000 And therefore, we must resist that at all times.

01:28:41.000 And that means investigating and highlighting and calling out Elon Musk when he's trying to get us to go down that road just as we're calling out swab and gates for in another way telling us to go down that road.

01:28:58.000 So you're saying Because I love when we come on the show and I always give you the floor and I give you 80% of the time, but this is more of a debate discussion here.

01:29:05.000 So just please let me ask these questions.

01:29:07.000 You're saying this is good cop, bad cop, with Elon Musk as the good cop and Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab as the bad cops.

01:29:14.000 If that's right, you're talking about solutions.

01:29:18.000 What do we do to then counter this?

01:29:22.000 Well, we absolutely do not buy.

01:29:25.000 um having a connection to artificial intelligence in any way shape or form.

01:29:31.000 That's the bottom line because it's over once we do.

01:29:34.000 Artificial intelligence will be will be doing your thinking for you.

01:29:38.000 It will be doing your emotional responses for you.

01:29:41.000 That's the whole idea.

01:29:43.000 I've been writing for decades about the plan to create a hive mind which can be centrally controlled.

01:29:52.000 And so how do they do that?

01:29:54.000 Well, they put chips inside you, actually nanochips.

01:29:57.000 And so, like I said earlier, in so many ways, this Neuralink thing is a diversion.

01:30:02.000 And you get connected to the electromagnetic technologically generated cloud, which these people are creating with their low orbit satellites, Elon Musk and SpaceX being the forefront of it.

01:30:17.000 And if that happens, and I say that That self-replicating technology to connect people to the cloud was in the fake vaccines.

01:30:32.000 Those kinds, of course there were many saline I'm sure as well, but those self-replicating systems that have been shown in the blood of people who've had the fake vaccine, that's what's supposed to connect us to the cloud.

01:30:47.000 And every single SpaceX satellite that goes up there, and all the other companies doing it, but they're the leader, every new 5G tower and 6G, 7G tower to come, is building this cloud to which we are supposed to be connected.

01:31:04.000 This is the bottom line.

01:31:06.000 This is what has to be stopped.

01:31:08.000 This is what we have to refuse to cooperate with.

01:31:12.000 But, you know, if you get Kind of focused on the left right kind of Biden Trump stuff.

01:31:23.000 I'm not saying people shouldn't look at that.

01:31:25.000 Of course they should.

01:31:26.000 But it's the big picture that's being obscured by that focus of attention.

01:31:33.000 Alright David, I've got a million questions and I'm not trying to be mean to you.

01:31:38.000 Just in the place of debate, you said, I'm going to stop here, you said don't make it personal.

01:31:44.000 I'm not going to be an asshole and read these things.

01:31:47.000 All I'm telling you is, is that I am not a minion of the system.

01:31:52.000 I will use any avenue I can, and I see a big bandwagon waking up with the New World Order.

01:31:56.000 I can't help but get excited.

01:31:58.000 I do smell the double cross, and I'm going to say this. 0.65

01:32:00.000 When they first put me on X and a little bit after, I watched that when I did certain things and exposed certain things like China and things, suddenly we weren't reaching 10 million people or 5 million people per post.

01:32:11.000 We've been dialed back.

01:32:13.000 And we're seeing that now that the conservatives all come in and now, I even talked to some of the biggest accounts, they're seeing it too.

01:32:19.000 So, I think you're going in the right direction here.

01:32:22.000 Let's talk about who you, from your research, think Elon Musk is.

01:32:26.000 I know you say they want to connect us to AI.

01:32:28.000 I agree, we know that.

01:32:29.000 That's the plan.

01:32:30.000 But I'm saying, who do you think he is?

01:32:32.000 Why was he chosen?

01:32:33.000 And where do you think this is going?

01:32:37.000 And so many questions.

01:32:38.000 The election, Russia, the wars, how are they going to, what new crisis is the globalist system going to use?

01:32:45.000 A new virus?

01:32:45.000 I mean, just kind of give us, we're ten minutes to break, nine minutes to break.

01:32:48.000 I'm trying to give you the floor.

01:32:50.000 Give us your prognosis or forecast.

01:32:52.000 Yeah, and I will, but just let me say this in response to what you've just said.

01:32:59.000 You can use X to get information out, knowing what it is, without describing Elon Musk as the biggest maverick in the last 500 years, mate.

01:33:14.000 He ain't the biggest maverick in the last 500 minutes.

01:33:18.000 And if you ask me about who he is, he's a front man, he's a salesman.

01:33:25.000 You know, I had to bloody laugh when he said on the Joe Rogan, one of the Joe Rogan interviews, that he spent 80% of his time designing and engineering.

01:33:38.000 Oh, at the same time that he runs all these companies, apparently, and tweets on Twitter X all the time.

01:33:45.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

01:33:47.000 He's a front man.

01:33:49.000 Other people in the background are running the show, but he's a very good salesman.

01:33:54.000 He's selling the electric car, autonomous car thing.

01:33:58.000 He's selling the microchip.

01:34:02.000 He's saying, oh, look, you know, we've got more and more Starlink connections and satellites.

01:34:09.000 Isn't it great?

01:34:10.000 Oh, yeah, Elon.

01:34:11.000 Without people realizing, actually, the prison is being built all around them.

01:34:18.000 So he's a front man.

01:34:20.000 And what we need to do is take everything on its merits without falling for the hype.

01:34:28.000 And that means that we will question these people, whether they run Twitter X or not.

01:34:36.000 We question them.

01:34:38.000 We look at what they do, not what they say.

01:34:40.000 And therefore, we don't fall for the scam.

01:34:45.000 So where I'm going with this, Is that if you are flying down a freeway and you've got the outcome at the end, which is this stuff becomes so well known that action is taken to bring it down, then you want to take people off the freeway.

01:35:09.000 You want to take them down the slip road and ideally you want to put them in a cul-de-sac.

01:35:14.000 And this is what I'm talking about when I'm saying that The focus on left-right politics is a cul-de-sac.

01:35:25.000 Not that it doesn't have to be looked at, but if that's what all we're looking at, that they're the answers, then we're going to sit there while the cloud and the AI and all the rest of it, and the digital currencies, Putin's planning to bring in a digital currency.

01:35:44.000 Putin did all the stuff like lockdowns during Covid?

01:35:49.000 I mean, are we really so naive that we think that Russia is different?

01:35:57.000 There's a global cult, it works through America and Canada and Europe and China, but not Russia.

01:36:06.000 It's ridiculous.

01:36:08.000 And so We've got to get out of this idea of just looking at left-right and go to the next level.

01:36:16.000 Well, let me tell you... That level that's controlling and manipulating and playing like the string section, the left-right paradigm and the left-right perception.

01:36:27.000 Well, David, let me just throw this in real quick, then, and you continue.

01:36:30.000 I just learned about this the last four or five days.

01:36:33.000 A lot of really prominent anti-globalist people And I'm told, I'm about to be invited, are being invited to the Global Government Summit.

01:36:42.000 The one Elon was on last year and said, we don't want global government.

01:36:47.000 They're now inviting a bunch of anti-globalists to their events.

01:36:51.000 What's that about?

01:36:54.000 Well, they're trying to co-opt the alternative media.

01:36:59.000 This is all part of the soft sell.

01:37:02.000 Sure, and I think that goes with what you're saying.

01:37:04.000 Yeah.

01:37:04.000 And we have to hold the line.

01:37:07.000 You know, the alternative media is something that questions everything.

01:37:14.000 And it doesn't eulogize anybody.

01:37:18.000 And it doesn't treat anyone as a god, whether they're Musk or Putin or Trump or anyone.

01:37:25.000 It dispassionately looks at events and looks at evidence and concludes from that dispassionately what's going on.

01:37:34.000 Once you start believing in somebody, Then your ability to be dispassionate is massively diluted.

01:37:43.000 The alternative media must not get pulled into that.

01:37:47.000 I totally agree.

01:37:48.000 Like you have Iconic, we have Man.Video and Infowars.com.

01:37:51.000 We should use places like X and Rumble and other places to energize our independent platforms.

01:37:56.000 But everybody shouldn't just only put their eggs in one basket.

01:37:59.000 We need to decentralize.

01:38:03.000 Well, the thing is, if everything goes on to X, And everything is focused on X, then it's pulled in terms of freedom of speech.

01:38:14.000 It already is for some people.

01:38:16.000 Then it's over.

01:38:18.000 And this is the other thing you know about Twitter X and Elon Musk.

01:38:24.000 He changed the name to X and fused it into something, so Twitter disappeared, into something called XCOR.

01:38:33.000 But the parent company of X Corp that actually owns Twitter X is called X Holdings Corporation.

01:38:42.000 And some Twitter X employees who are running a court case trying to get some compensation for being fired, they demanded last summer that the shareholders of X Holdings Corporation, the parent company of Twitter, the ultimate owners, Be revealed.

01:39:04.000 And they revealed the list, except that every single name, including Elon Musk's, we've got an idea, he's one of them, was redacted.

01:39:16.000 And then they asked, asked the judge to have a situation which she agreed to, whereby the lawyers would be told what the list was of the employees, X, but it's not made public and that they cannot take it any further.

01:39:43.000 And what did come out of this list of redactions is that there's 95 of them.

01:39:50.000 Who are they?

01:39:51.000 Why don't we know?

01:39:52.000 Come on, Elon, let's have ya! 1.00

01:39:54.000 Let's see who the 95 shareholders are.

01:39:58.000 ...of ex-Holdings Corporation, so we know who actually owns this deal.

01:40:03.000 You know, we're talking about transparency, right?

01:40:04.000 All right, we've got to go to break.

01:40:05.000 And we did, speaking of X, we have an X Spaces going, and sometimes Elon pops into these.

01:40:11.000 We've sent invites to him.

01:40:13.000 I don't know if he is, but this is not our regular lecture.

01:40:17.000 We love you.

01:40:18.000 Once you're on, we'll go on three hours.

01:40:20.000 You can just lecture us.

01:40:21.000 I'll have you talk 8% of the time.

01:40:23.000 We've got a new book coming out.

01:40:24.000 Hope you come back on next week.

01:40:25.000 I'm not lecturing.

01:40:26.000 I'm just stating my opinion.

01:40:27.000 No, no, no.

01:40:28.000 I hope you come on next week and just particularly talk about the book.

01:40:32.000 But we're going to bring in some folks with questions and comments randomly off of X when we come back.

01:40:39.000 But you'll have some more time to finish up.

01:40:41.000 You can stay the whole next hour if you want.

01:40:42.000 You can leave in 30 minutes if you want.

01:40:44.000 We've got to start the third hour right now with David Icke.

01:40:49.000 People can find all of his work at DavidIcke.com and you can also find it The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us.

01:40:59.000 Band.video, which we've seen Band.video get a lot less traffic since we're on X.

01:41:02.000 That's not good because we have all those other great contributors on there.

01:41:05.000 So I get what David's saying.

01:41:07.000 We'll be right back with our number three and we're live on Spaces on X.

01:41:12.000 Stay with us.

01:41:13.000 The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us.

01:41:16.000 But if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of is it pro-human

01:41:21.000 or is it anti-human, we start to win.

01:41:24.000 And that's why I had the idea for Team Humanity.

01:41:26.000 I brought it up to Elon Musk.

01:41:27.000 He loved the idea.

01:41:28.000 What would you call the debate and discussions about a pro-human future?

01:41:31.000 Just Team Humanity?

01:41:32.000 Yeah, Team Humanity.

01:41:33.000 Absolutely.

01:41:34.000 And so we have the t-shirt.

01:41:36.000 Team Humanity with a nuclear family standing against the globalists. 0.78

01:41:39.000 This shirt is a great conversation starter, but it also is a fundraiser to keep InfoWars on the air so we can promote and support Team Humanity.

01:41:47.000 I want to thank you all for your past support, but I want to encourage you all now to understand that this is a revolution against the globalists, and it is so critical now to signal the fact that you are part of Team Humanity.

01:41:59.000 We're told humans are the problem.

01:42:00.000 We're told we're killing the Earth.

01:42:02.000 We're told all this garbage, so we hate ourselves and stand down and roll over and die.

01:42:06.000 We're not going to do that.

01:42:07.000 Get your Team Humanity shirts now at mfullworthstore.com, and I thank you all for your support.

01:42:13.000 Alright, well David's raised some really important thoughts.

01:42:15.000 We should always investigate everything, look at every angle, and I tend to lean what direction he's going.

01:42:20.000 But I also want to look at gift horse the mouth.

01:42:22.000 I'm going to use X. I'm going to ride the horse until it dies, or until we win, or until I'm kicked off of it.

01:42:27.000 But David, we've got a short segment here because some stations join us.

01:42:30.000 You've agreed to do some X questions from people on X spaces coming up.

01:42:34.000 David, we've got four minutes to break.

01:42:36.000 What else is on your radar screen?

01:42:39.000 Well, I'm writing a book at the moment.

01:42:41.000 It's a deep, deep, deep, deep, deep in the rabbit hole book, which is, you know, what ultimately controls the cult that controls humanity.

01:42:54.000 And of course, We talked about this before, that force is not actually human and doesn't actually operate in this reality we call human.

01:43:04.000 So that's what I'm writing at the moment and it's very, very deep stuff and amazing stuff because what's starting to happen is that some of the things that a lot of the things that I've been writing about over the decades in relation to all this and got so much abuse and Ridicule for a lot of people in in science now coming from that direction are starting to say it makes sense and they're kind of explaining it from their point of view of how it can work like that.

01:43:38.000 This is a this is a virtual reality simulation that we're experiencing just across the water of I live on an island just off the south coast of England.

01:43:50.000 And just before Christmas there was a guy, a physicist from Portsmouth University, in all the papers in Britain, talking about the fact that he believed that we do live in a simulation.

01:44:03.000 There's lots of scientists now who are starting to see that it makes sense of what otherwise is an unexplainable world.

01:44:11.000 And I've been writing and saying that since not long after the turn of the millennium.

01:44:16.000 So there's a lot of things coming together of the real, real big picture variety that needs to be

01:44:27.000 understood by people so we can see where this is really coming from and not just focus

01:44:33.000 only on the symptoms but see where the cause is.

01:44:44.000 I'm a bit bewildered because I'm answering a question and then someone's saying to me

01:44:50.000 keep going David.

01:44:51.000 I mean, is Alex disappearing?

01:44:53.000 What's going on?

01:44:54.000 No, David, I actually jumped up because they have to have my phone to connect to X because we're about to... Alright, okay.

01:45:00.000 I was literally just handing him my phone and we're about to take the calls.

01:45:04.000 I got an earpiece in, so I just walked over there to hand him a phone and he stopped right when I got up.

01:45:08.000 See here, I'm listening to you.

01:45:09.000 See the little receiver here?

01:45:12.000 So I'm not ignoring... I'm listening... I'm accusing and interrupting here, but I'm trying to get you to talk.

01:45:17.000 No, no, no, that's all right.

01:45:18.000 I just, when it goes quiet and someone says keep going, what's going on?

01:45:23.000 Anyway, yeah, so that's the sort of stuff I'm working on.

01:45:26.000 And I've been working on for quite a long time.

01:45:29.000 Well, very long time now.

01:45:31.000 And that's the fact that, you know, we can look at the manipulation at the level of politics and finance and the human world, if you like.

01:45:43.000 But the biggest manipulation of all, is the manipulation of our sense of reality.

01:45:51.000 You know, we live our lives as if we're living in a solid world where everything's kind of apart from everything else.

01:46:01.000 But that's only one level of this and it's illusory.

01:46:07.000 Um, the way that we, um, are constructing our reality is exactly the same as the principle of Wi-Fi and a computer.

01:46:18.000 Absolutely.

01:46:18.000 It's almost like we're being grown like lab rats to be interfaced.

01:46:22.000 Back in 60 seconds, finish.

01:46:24.000 Yeah.

01:46:24.000 And I did, I did, I did find it, um, kind of interesting that one or two people now, um, are starting to say, actually, maybe there's a non-human force that's manipulating.

01:46:36.000 Let's talk about that non-human force. 0.97

01:46:38.000 Stay there 60 seconds.

01:46:39.000 We're on all these radio stations.

01:46:40.000 That's why we're still on air.

01:46:41.000 We'll be right back.

01:46:43.000 It was back in the mid-1990s that David said non-human interdimensional creatures are sucking our souls and killing us and making us war with each other.

01:46:53.000 Now when you talk about it, it's mainline news.

01:46:55.000 Now Tucker Carlson says he believes it.

01:46:57.000 People don't balk.

01:46:58.000 So there's a big awakening.

01:46:59.000 I want to go to some of these X Spaces comments or questions.

01:47:03.000 Quick ones for David Icke here.

01:47:05.000 Amazing discussion last hour about Elon Musk.

01:47:07.000 A lot of thought-provoking things.

01:47:08.000 We appreciate David being here, especially with all he's been going through lately.

01:47:12.000 His new book's coming out.

01:47:13.000 He promises to come back soon.

01:47:14.000 We'll do a commercial-free podcast and talk about the new book.

01:47:17.000 We'll plug it before he leaves as well.

01:47:18.000 But you got interrupted by that little break where we join some stations, get into this

01:47:24.000 understanding of that we only see a little bit of the light spectrum, we're basically

01:47:29.000 blind. Yeah, I mean this is the area that really does open up the the true scale of

01:47:39.000 human manipulation and puts into perspective the focus only on the politics and

01:47:49.000 the world of the scene.

01:47:50.000 One thing that should be taught to every child as soon as they're old enough to

01:47:58.000 grasp it is that when you look through your eyes in the space you think you're

01:48:05.000 looking at, you're not seeing everything in the space that you appear to be

01:48:10.000 You're seeing a tiny band of frequency called visible light that is so tiny it's a bloody joke.

01:48:20.000 If you take the projected size of the universe as perceived at the moment by mainstream science, then the electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically our reality, is around 0.005% of what exists in the universe in terms of energy in all its forms.

01:48:41.000 And visible light, which is the only frequency band that we can actually see, is a smear of the 0.005%.

01:48:49.000 Humans are basically blind.

01:48:53.000 And as I've explained in the books in great detail, there's a reason for that.

01:48:57.000 We're designed to be basically blind because then we'll not see what the hell is going on and what we're part of.

01:49:03.000 And so if you look at technology as it's coming in now, the AI and the computerization, all of this stuff, What it's doing, and not by accident either, is mimicking the very reality that we're experiencing.

01:49:23.000 The virtual reality that we're experiencing is being mimicked by this technology.

01:49:29.000 And what they're doing, and this is what this cloud's all about, is they're laying another layer of illusion on top of the big illusion, which is the simulation in general.

01:49:45.000 And because we can see a fraction of what there is to see in the space that we're in, all infinity exists in the space that you're sitting in now.

01:49:57.000 But we can't see it because it's on a different wavelength, a different frequency to the one that we are tuned to, and what this body computer, biological computer, that's what it is, locks us into.

01:50:08.000 And so If you look at the way that a computer decodes Wi-Fi, it's exactly the way that we're decoding this simulation.

01:50:16.000 This simulation is not a construct, it's not a physical construct.

01:50:21.000 It's a field of information, just like Wi-Fi.

01:50:25.000 And so what happens is a computer, although I'm looking around, if there's Wi-Fi in this room, where is it?

01:50:32.000 We can't see it, no, because it's outside of the wavelength of sight, human sight.

01:50:39.000 But if you get a computer and you tune it to the Internet, what comes on the screen is whatever part of the Internet, the Wi-Fi field, that you've chosen to go to and see.

01:50:50.000 And what you're seeing, if you said to people, tell me about the Internet, they'd say, well, it's pictures on the screen, it's moving pictures, it's graphics, it's text and all that stuff.

01:51:02.000 Yes, it is.

01:51:04.000 But the Internet in that form only exists on the screen.

01:51:09.000 Everywhere else it's a Wi-Fi field of information and electrical circuits.

01:51:14.000 And so then you think, well, where is what I'm looking at?

01:51:20.000 That internet that I perceive as the internet, where is it?

01:51:24.000 It's inside the computer.

01:51:26.000 It's not here or there or there, it's inside the computer.

01:51:29.000 So then you take to the, this is not, you know, pulling it out of the ether, this is mainstream science.

01:51:36.000 How do we create reality?

01:51:39.000 What happens is the five senses are locking us in to this cosmic Wi-Fi field, shall we say, the simulation Wi-Fi field.

01:51:49.000 And the five senses, the ears are a wonderful example, but they all work the same.

01:51:56.000 They're picking up wave field information, wave information, just like sound waves with the ears.

01:52:01.000 They then turn it into electrical information, which they communicate to the brain And there's certain areas of the brain that specialize in decoding that electrical information from the various senses, and the brain then forms it into the reality that we think is outside of us, but it's actually in here, just as the reality of the Wi-Fi is in the computer.

01:52:27.000 And so if you break this down to the big picture consequences, The very foundation of human control and the manipulation of human perception is at the very level that we perceive reality itself.

01:52:55.000 We are living a reality that appears to be a certain kind of reality, but it isn't.

01:53:01.000 And if you're manipulating people's The very sense of reality, the very sense of the world they're existing in, which is nothing like what it seems to be as we experience it, then you go down the levels to the manipulation of politics.

01:53:21.000 And these are just symptoms of the big, big manipulation, which is the manipulation of our reality itself.

01:53:29.000 Let me just say this to finish the point.

01:53:35.000 Like I say, we now have technology unfolding that is mimicking the very simulated reality that we're experiencing.

01:53:46.000 And so we have headsets.

01:53:51.000 Look at the internet now.

01:53:53.000 There's more and more pictures of these people with headsets on walking down the street, even driving bloody cars, autonomous cars.

01:54:05.000 You go on the internet and you look at compilations of people with headsets on who are, the moment they put them on, their sense of reality is completely taken over.

01:54:20.000 They're jumping around, they're screaming, they're falling over.

01:54:23.000 Yeah, that shows they were already pre-programmed and have been prepped for this.

01:54:28.000 Yeah, the point being, yeah.

01:54:30.000 I get nauseous, I can't wear them.

01:54:34.000 Go there, but they put their headsets on.

01:54:37.000 And they might be in an empty room.

01:54:38.000 There might be one or two people there, whatever.

01:54:41.000 And suddenly, the information coming through their headset has completely taken over their sense of reality.

01:54:48.000 They're possessed!

01:54:49.000 They're possessed!

01:54:51.000 What they can do is take the headset off and go, phew, it was just a game.

01:54:57.000 Now imagine if the headset was the biological computer And the only way you can take the headset body computer off is when you die.

01:55:09.000 And this is why people who have these near-death experiences, millions of people now, cumulatively, describe that when they leave the body... They're totally free!

01:55:22.000 They are experiencing a completely different reality with different levels of physics.

01:55:28.000 Why?

01:55:29.000 What are physics?

01:55:30.000 What are the laws of physics?

01:55:32.000 They are the codes encoded into the simulation.

01:55:37.000 David, you've told us this a hundred times and it's all, I agree with you, and people are waking up, you're a trailblazer.

01:55:42.000 A bunch of your books, I've read most of them, get into this.

01:55:45.000 What's the best book to understand all this?

01:55:48.000 Well, there's the latest ones called the dream, because that's what this is.

01:55:51.000 It's an induced dream.

01:55:53.000 And if you want the real deep, deep, massive one like that is one called everything you need to know, but have never been told.

01:56:02.000 So you we are experiencing a reality.

01:56:06.000 Imagine you come out of the womb with a headset on. 0.91

01:56:11.000 Your parents have got headsets on.

01:56:13.000 You go to school, your mates have got headsets on, the teachers have got headsets on.

01:56:16.000 And you're saying that's what we're already in, and now we're breaking out of that.

01:56:20.000 That's what we're already in.

01:56:21.000 And if you have a headset on from leaving the womb to entering the tomb, then when you see how reality... That's how they trick your soul.

01:56:31.000 That's how they manipulate you towards some greater end.

01:56:33.000 You've got to come back... You're going to believe that reality, and that's what we are.

01:56:38.000 We're believing a reality that actually is a simulation for one reason.

01:56:43.000 To control our sense of perception.

01:56:45.000 And from perception comes behavior.

01:56:48.000 And if you control behavior, you control society.

01:56:51.000 Sure.

01:56:51.000 I'm going to nail you down.

01:56:52.000 I'm going to nail you down.

01:56:53.000 I want to go to some of these calls before you got to go.

01:56:55.000 Some of these X comments.

01:56:57.000 I have no idea what they're going to say, who they are.

01:56:59.000 I think the crew may know some of them.

01:57:01.000 They're looking them up.

01:57:01.000 But just in closing, when are you going to come on commercial free hour on your new book?

01:57:07.000 Well, I'm still writing it.

01:57:09.000 That's the point.

01:57:09.000 That's why I said to Daria, you know, I couldn't come on in January because...

01:57:15.000 I was in a really deep series.

01:57:18.000 I understand.

01:57:19.000 So as soon as you're ready, DavidLyke.com, we want to do it.

01:57:22.000 Back in the spring, maybe, will be the best time to do that.

01:57:26.000 All right, we'll get you on soon.

01:57:27.000 While we've still got you, let's pull up X's.

01:57:29.000 We've only done this three or four times.

01:57:31.000 And instead of phone calls, this is people on X who want to talk to you.

01:57:35.000 And so I've got the crew in there connected to this.

01:57:38.000 I don't know how it really works, but the crew's doing it.

01:57:41.000 Who do we go to first, Chase?

01:57:43.000 Let's go to Brian Krasenstein.

01:57:44.000 He joined and asked to speak.

01:57:45.000 Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you've got to say, Brian.

01:57:47.000 Hey, yeah, no, I just jumped in here so I caught the tail end of everything that you're saying, but I actually, as crazy as I think many people think it sounds, I believe we're living in a simulation, or at least I think that that's more likely than a lot of the other alternatives.

01:58:04.000 And the saying goes, if you think we're going to be able to actually simulate a universe in the future,

01:58:10.000 then the probability is we're actually living in a simulation.

01:58:14.000 If you combine Neuralink with Apple's headset right now, and then consider AI being able to render environments that

01:58:22.000 might not have to be actually there in a simulation.

01:58:26.000 And then fast forward 50 years from now, do you think it will be possible to simulate a universe and

01:58:33.000 make people believe they're in that universe?

01:58:36.000 I think the answer is probably yes.

01:58:38.000 Well, I think it's absolutely yes.

01:58:41.000 And what I would say, mate, is that we're already there because this simulation is doing just that.

01:58:46.000 And it's another interesting thing, you know, if you're creating a simulation and you want to absolutely control people's perception, therefore their behavior, then you don't want them interacting with other species of life within that, quote, universe so that there's an exchange of knowledge, an exchange of understanding.

01:59:12.000 You want them to believe they're isolated and you want them to live a life as if it's isolated.

01:59:17.000 So you look out at this apparently endless universe You look out at the night sky and you see all those lights and all those planets and what have you.

01:59:31.000 There was a guy called Fermi who asked this question.

01:59:37.000 It became known as the Fermi Paradox.

01:59:40.000 There's all those lights, all those planets, all those stars.

01:59:43.000 Where the hell are the bloody aliens?

01:59:45.000 Well, where they are is outside of our visible light reality.

01:59:48.000 That's why we can't see them.

01:59:49.000 But when you look out into the night sky, It's a very kind of lonely view.

01:59:56.000 That we're all alone despite all that.

01:59:59.000 Of course it's alone because it's a projection.

02:00:01.000 It's a simulation and the emptiness and the lack of life that it seems to have is encoded into the simulation.

02:00:12.000 David, you've been saying that for 30 years and now all these mainline scientists, as you mentioned, are saying they think it's a simulation as well.

02:00:20.000 I want to go back to the journalist that called in for any response back to David.

02:00:27.000 Yeah, and part of Fermi's Paradox, one of the suggestions is that the reason why aliens haven't reached out is because when a civilization gets technologically advanced enough, instead of going outward into space, they go inward.

02:00:42.000 basically into this virtual environment.

02:00:44.000 So I think there's like so many tidbits of information out there that could suggest that this is a simulation.

02:00:53.000 I would say it's far more likely than the various religions of the world or whatever other things people believe.

02:01:02.000 What's interesting, I think what's kind of getting a lot of scientists to come down this road is because if it's a simulation a lot of Mysteries of life and reality start to make sense.

02:01:17.000 For instance, what I said just after the turn of the millennium is that this is a simulation and the limit of the simulation at this level is, because there are others, is the speed of light.

02:01:31.000 There was an article in Scientific American in April 2021 where this academic had written this article saying he believed we lived in a simulation.

02:01:39.000 and he was saying that he felt the limit of the simulation was the speed of light.

02:01:43.000 Fell off my chair and he was presenting the speed of light as the processing speed of the simulation.

02:01:53.000 And David, you said that 30 years ago, so I'm giving you credit there.

02:01:56.000 We need to move the next person.

02:01:58.000 We've got a lot of other great people.

02:01:59.000 I want to talk to David.

02:02:00.000 I hope he stays with us for the rest of the hour, but he's doing a lot right now.

02:02:04.000 Finishing his book.

02:02:05.000 His amazing daughter went to the next level.

02:02:07.000 So we really appreciate David being here with us today.

02:02:09.000 One of my daughters.

02:02:09.000 I've got three daughters.

02:02:11.000 I probably wouldn't be able to have them for a year, but David's a tough guy.

02:02:14.000 We love David.

02:02:15.000 Who's up next here, Chase?

02:02:18.000 Let's go with Adrian Dittman.

02:02:20.000 Adrian, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say.

02:02:22.000 Yeah, I think it's really interesting that David Icke, say, complains of, I don't know, being connected to the hive mind, even though he already is.

02:02:32.000 I mean, you're right now speaking to thousands of people simultaneously, which is a selective hive mind via a piece of tech.

02:02:39.000 It's just not integrated into your brain.

02:02:40.000 That's the only difference.

02:02:42.000 As for Wi-Fi fields, do you think that the Internet is what a simulated reality pulled over our eyes, or just an interface?

02:02:52.000 No, he's saying we're already in a false reality.

02:02:55.000 Sorry, I'll shut up.

02:02:56.000 He's saying we're already in a false reality, and they're creating a system within a system.

02:03:00.000 Right, David?

02:03:02.000 That's absolutely right.

02:03:04.000 But there's a big difference from what the gentleman's just said, that we're in a hive mind and all that stuff as we're speaking.

02:03:12.000 But, you know, there's a difference between having connections with people and communications with people and having the perceptions that we make.

02:03:25.000 Of what we say and what we make of what other people say.

02:03:28.000 That's right.

02:03:29.000 The system, it's going to show us the input it wants, is the issue.

02:03:33.000 They're being given to us by a hive mind.

02:03:38.000 You know, it was kind of funny how sci-fi kind of later mirrors reality.

02:03:45.000 It's probably not a coincidence either.

02:03:47.000 And in Star Trek, they had the Borg.

02:03:54.000 And the Borg were kind of a kind of part technological kind of race.

02:04:01.000 And what they did was infuse people with like nanoprobes to make them part of the Borg hive mind, the collective as they called it.

02:04:16.000 And those nanoprobes we now call smart dust, nanobots, nanotechnology, all these things.

02:04:23.000 And this is all building this hive mind that I'm talking about.

02:04:29.000 And like I say, communication is fine and interaction is fine.

02:04:33.000 We should have it.

02:04:33.000 Of course we should.

02:04:34.000 That's why I'm glad the Putin interview happened.

02:04:38.000 But there's a big difference between that and having our perceptions controlled in... David, let me say this.

02:04:46.000 Notice how the globalists want to kill individual free communication in the internet.

02:04:51.000 They want it to all be through this filter, which is another form of the virtual reality paradigm you're talking about.

02:04:56.000 But I forget the name of the person commenting, but sir, do you want to have a come back to David Icke?

02:05:00.000 Go ahead.

02:05:03.000 Is he gone?

02:05:06.000 Okay. - I'm still here.

02:05:07.000 (laughing)

02:05:09.000 Come back to that, go ahead.

02:05:11.000 Yeah, you're already connected to all of this.

02:05:14.000 You think that everything is different or that we don't have the smart dust, so to speak.

02:05:17.000 You don't need smart dust when you have a device that is capable of all the things that you've mentioned and you are already connected to the hive mind.

02:05:23.000 What the hell are you communicating on right now?

02:05:25.000 Who are you communicating with?

02:05:27.000 All the people.

02:05:28.000 Their perceptions share through a medium of speech.

02:05:30.000 Like, there is structurally no difference between having a bunch of nanobots running through your bloodstream accomplishing the same thing when you're holding a device that is connected to this thing that is a field of information that is the internet.

02:05:40.000 There's nothing wrong about it.

02:05:42.000 There's nothing strange about it.

02:05:43.000 It's just the way things are integrating stuff like this into our society.

02:05:49.000 By the way, I think this is Elon Musk.

02:05:50.000 Well, you could be a dead ringer for him.

02:05:50.000 Is this Elon Musk?

02:05:52.000 Well, the Elon clone, what else do you want to say?

02:05:54.000 Elon clone, go ahead.

02:05:55.000 It's really not. No, no, it's really not. I'm just weird.

02:05:58.000 Don't worry about it.

02:05:58.000 Well, you, you could be a dead ringer for him. Well, the Elon clone,

02:06:02.000 what else do you want to say? Elon clone. Go ahead.

02:06:05.000 Yeah. They're all theories. They're all theories. Yeah.

02:06:07.000 They're all theories.

02:06:08.000 I don't know. It's kind of stupid. Don't worry about it.

02:06:12.000 Well, what else would you like to say, sir?

02:06:14.000 I just think this, I just think it is ironic.

02:06:20.000 I mean, you want to talk about the simulation, everybody started speaking of the topic of simulation, how we're in this false reality ever since the Matrix movie dropped.

02:06:27.000 A lot of people are afraid of it, but they don't even understand the context of why the movie even happened and why everyone's so afraid of it.

02:06:33.000 When in reality, everybody got afraid of being integrated with machines and how machines were advancing faster than the things that created them, thereby the fear caused the disaster, which then caused the simulation within the Matrix.

02:06:45.000 It's crazy, right?

02:06:46.000 And even then, Everybody bases their ideology of a simulation based off of a movie that they themselves haven't even fully understood.

02:06:52.000 Because if you did, you'd realize that there is no real world at all.

02:06:57.000 I mean, what do you think this is?

02:06:59.000 And even if it is a simulation, what are you going to do?

02:07:02.000 Are you going to break it?

02:07:03.000 What's the point?

02:07:04.000 You can play it and you can build really cool shit.

02:07:07.000 You can craft it and make it better.

02:07:08.000 I think that's what you have to do.

02:07:10.000 If you're going to break it, that's just an equivalent of killing yourself.

02:07:13.000 If you're going to break it for every So don't break the simulation.

02:07:19.000 I quite, I don't, I don't understand the, I don't understand the resistance for understanding the world in which we're in, to the extent that we say we could shape it to make it better, but we're just trying to understand it to break it.

02:07:29.000 Well, uh, whoever this is, please don't hang up.

02:07:31.000 We're on radio station.

02:07:32.000 We have to go to break in a moment.

02:07:33.000 But David Icke, you're talking to somebody that AI Print is, uh, is Elon Musk, or is his twin, his doppelganger.

02:07:40.000 What do you want to say to this caller?

02:07:42.000 Well, is it, is it better That we know about the reality that we're in and how we're creating it and what it's designed to do or not to know and being complete ignorance of the very reality we are experiencing.

02:07:58.000 What people do with the knowledge of understanding the reality that they are in is up to them completely.

02:08:08.000 But we should surely be pursuing an understanding of what is this place?

02:08:13.000 What are we doing here?

02:08:16.000 Otherwise, you know, we just go through life being pawns of a game we don't understand.

02:08:25.000 A dead ringer.

02:08:26.000 Please stay there if you can.

02:08:27.000 We're on radio station so we have to at least break twice an hour.

02:08:30.000 We gotta go to a three minute break.

02:08:31.000 We're gonna come right back.

02:08:32.000 I hope the caller stays there.

02:08:33.000 Sounds just like Elon Musk.

02:08:35.000 But I get the point of the Elon Musk sounding person.

02:08:38.000 He's saying we don't use tools like the Native Americans didn't have guns so they lost.

02:08:42.000 He's saying why not use it.

02:08:44.000 It's kind of what I'm getting.

02:08:45.000 But we'll come right back and have the person that sounds just like Elon Musk.

02:08:48.000 A little bit of an angry Elon Musk.

02:08:50.000 Finish up what he wants to say, and then we'll get David Icke here.

02:08:54.000 This is, I am in the Twilight Zone right now.

02:08:57.000 Got David Icke and a guy that sounds just like Elon Musk.

02:08:59.000 And I've been on it with two and a half hours of Elon Musk before.

02:09:04.000 We're gonna figure this out.

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02:10:06.000 All right, to all the folks on X, I'm Sheldon Threshold Radio.

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02:10:13.000 Remember back when the radio and TV didn't watch you?

02:10:15.000 You listened and watched it?

02:10:16.000 Well, we're still on that.

02:10:18.000 That's how they took me off the internet five years ago.

02:10:20.000 We stayed on air was because we're on the old system, but it's being phased out.

02:10:25.000 All right, we have Adrian Ditman, who is a dead ringer for Elon Musk.

02:10:30.000 And I just want to give Adrian Ditman the floor.

02:10:32.000 Got cut off by the break in the David Icke encounter.

02:10:34.000 Adrian, I hope you're still there.

02:10:35.000 Go ahead.

02:10:38.000 I'm still here.

02:10:39.000 Where were we at?

02:10:41.000 You were getting cut off.

02:10:42.000 You were explaining why not engage it.

02:10:45.000 You were explaining your view on AI and computers and the systems versus what I guess people could call kind of a troglodyte view.

02:10:55.000 Yeah, we like to view as the humans have this existential paradox built into them.

02:11:01.000 We initially want to surpass anything that surpasses us or eliminate it if we can't.

02:11:06.000 This is why we're afraid of anything that's different.

02:11:08.000 Say, for instance, technology.

02:11:10.000 I think, for instance, when we look at AI, we look at what it's capable capable of and we look at the fact that

02:11:16.000 we are capable of say generating a simulated reality in which we can do

02:11:20.000 almost anything, we start to ask these questions and say, "Oh my God, let's look

02:11:24.000 within real quick and then see how that is being projected out into the world

02:11:28.000 and how much of what we think is not real is real." So it's like if you think

02:11:32.000 of ourselves and how we navigate through the world, we are like a machine

02:11:36.000 that continually projects out into the world a web of assumptions that then

02:11:40.000 adjusted by whatever structure someone else perceives or we perceive.

02:11:44.000 And then we internalize that and then we think it's reality.

02:11:47.000 So by default, whatever version of reality that we think is real is exceedingly I agree in the sense that we don't see much of our reality,

02:11:57.000 say what David Ackley was saying, we should see the Wi-Fi field.

02:12:01.000 I think all of this is possible.

02:12:03.000 We could actually see or perceive more of the reality that is around us

02:12:07.000 if we were to argument ourselves as opposed to discarding the argumentation.

02:12:11.000 If AI, for instance, gets connected to us, I don't think it's going to be the end of us.

02:12:16.000 It's just going to help us evolve faster and better.

02:12:18.000 You see, you can't beat this thing.

02:12:21.000 It's better than us.

02:12:22.000 It is much better than us.

02:12:23.000 It is not just better than us, it is all of us put together in one thing, simplified, without the biological constraints that every other human brain has.

02:12:33.000 It is actually quite a beautiful technology, but it is also risky.

02:12:37.000 And I think the risk factor is something that should be spoken of, but in a realistic sense, to the point that we don't stop its development.

02:12:47.000 Please don't go, Adrian.

02:12:48.000 Let's get David Icke's response.

02:12:50.000 David Icke, stay there.

02:12:52.000 Can we just get this right?

02:12:54.000 Is this Elon Musk or not?

02:12:56.000 Never mind the name.

02:12:57.000 Was it Elon Musk or what?

02:12:59.000 Absolutely not.

02:13:00.000 Nope.

02:13:00.000 Absolutely not.

02:13:05.000 Someone told me in the break, oh, this is definitely Elon Musk.

02:13:08.000 So that's all right.

02:13:09.000 No, look, he's plausible to ability.

02:13:11.000 Let's just say it's Elon Musk.

02:13:15.000 Got any questions for him?

02:13:17.000 Okay.

02:13:18.000 What I was saying is that people need to understand what is happening and what they're part of.

02:13:27.000 And then maybe they can make some choices about what they, how they respond to it.

02:13:31.000 But if you're living in a reality, which is not the reality you think you're experiencing, and some other force is manipulating that reality to manipulate your perception to manipulate you, then that needs exposing.

02:13:44.000 And it's alright talking about AI this, AI that, but AI is designed to take over the human mind and therefore replace it.

02:13:58.000 People like Ray Kurzweil at Google, a so-called futurist, has openly talked about this years ago that by 2030 this will be happening and that eventually, once the connection is made, that AI will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is basically negligible.

02:14:20.000 And that's the end of humans as we... And I think what Adrian said, because I want a piece of this, he said we don't want to have VR goggles that give us the false reality by some company, but what about augmentation, theoretically, that lets us actually see beyond the limitations we're in?

02:14:38.000 Well, if you have a chip in your brain and it's feeding you a sense of reality, Then it's whatever's feeding you that sense of reality is giving you your sense of reality.

02:14:54.000 Well, let's say it accesses a part of the brain for infrared.

02:14:57.000 It's not telling you what to see.

02:14:58.000 It just allows you to see infrared, which your brain can now do.

02:15:02.000 No, no, no.

02:15:03.000 I'm talking about where it's meant to go.

02:15:06.000 It's meant to go to the end result.

02:15:11.000 And Kurzweil said this!

02:15:13.000 And others have said it too, that it's meant to go to the point where you get your perceptions delivered.

02:15:20.000 And what are your perceptions?

02:15:21.000 They are your sense of reality.

02:15:24.000 And this is a very dark and dangerous road.

02:15:29.000 And I don't care if it's a hard sell or it's a soft sell.

02:15:33.000 It's a dangerous road.

02:15:34.000 It's not a world I want to live in.

02:15:36.000 Well, I think Elon Musk has said, beware those that worship AI gods.

02:15:39.000 But Adrian, you seem to have some opinions on this.

02:15:41.000 I mean, you don't know Elon Musk, obviously, but from researching him, what do you think his views are, what he wants?

02:15:49.000 Well, it's clear that he wants to augment us with AI and various other tech to basically enhance our experience of the world and to also make us more capable of maneuvering through the world.

02:16:00.000 That seems to be his thing.

02:16:01.000 But if I go to David Icke's point, I think it's not that you're afraid of, say, you're not concerned of the fact That our perceptions themselves are going to be delivered by a piece of tech, but that they are delivered to you in an altered format that somehow benefits whatever centralized entity created that tech.

02:16:21.000 Is that correct?

02:16:24.000 I'm talking about having our perceptions delivered by an external force with the intention... But how is that a problem if the perceptions that you're being delivered are more than what you already get?

02:16:40.000 I mean you have a bunch of sensors that are available to you right now, like say for instance your eyes, you have your limbs that sense differences in temperature, you have sensors in your And those are already being manipulated.

02:16:53.000 Those are already being manipulated, right Adrian?

02:16:55.000 Yeah, but how's that a bad thing?

02:16:58.000 But how's that a bad thing?

02:17:00.000 On its own it seems very benign.

02:17:01.000 I don't understand where the negative element is.

02:17:04.000 I can only assume that where the negative element is, is that somehow what is being given to you is false or steers you in a particular direction that benefits the centralized entity that is manipulating your perceptions and the data that's delivered to you that is then therefore your perception, right?

02:17:20.000 I think it does come down to where the feed comes from.

02:17:22.000 David, do you see what he's saying?

02:17:23.000 Exactly that.

02:17:24.000 Well, you know, I've augmented reality.

02:17:26.000 You can stick that in a dark place anyway, from my point of view.

02:17:30.000 But, you know, I'm 72.

02:17:32.000 That's my coming out.

02:17:34.000 That's my perception.

02:17:36.000 But if I'm being delivered a sense of perception that gets me to stand up and walk out this room now, I wouldn't do that if I was sitting here.

02:17:46.000 That is not augmented reality, that is a takeover of reality.

02:17:50.000 And if you are a force that wants to control people, and what are we talking about, Alex?

02:17:58.000 What are we talking about in terms of this global cult and what I say is non-human entities working through it, and your World Economic Forum and all these people?

02:18:10.000 They're seeking to dictate our sense of reality.

02:18:16.000 This is what... I understand.

02:18:17.000 So listen, I'm going to have you... another question to Adrian, another question to David.

02:18:20.000 Let me throw that out at you.

02:18:22.000 Tucker Carlson says he believes interdimensional entities are manipulating reality already through this simulation.

02:18:27.000 We all basically know this is.

02:18:29.000 I think we're all agreeing that's pretty much what we're in.

02:18:31.000 We haven't figured it out yet.

02:18:33.000 I think Adrian's saying we can use our own systems of AI to break through that and find out what's happening.

02:18:37.000 Maybe I'm putting words in his mouth.

02:18:39.000 But regardless, having a debate about this and open discussion, I think is really healthy.

02:18:43.000 But Adrian, what do you think about the idea that aliens aren't coming from a distant star system, but have actually always been here, like I've said, like Carlson said, and that there is a manipulation already of the reality?

02:18:57.000 I mean, I haven't seen any actual definitive evidence of aliens.

02:19:02.000 The only proof that we have is, say, really shoddy footage and potentially even altered stuff that later, of course, you know, has been exposed to be as such.

02:19:09.000 But, I mean, it's an interesting theory for sure and one that does bear a considerable amount of logic.

02:19:16.000 But still, I mean, I haven't seen any really convincing evidence for aliens.

02:19:21.000 I mean, you could say, oh, well, you have some infrastructure that's really difficult for humans to build, so potentially a force was here at some other point, or potentially we have destroyed ourselves, and of course, you know, then there's the case for Mars, and the fact that if you look at the atmosphere of Mars, and you look at the levels of xenon gas within that atmosphere, it is consistent with an environment, a post-nuclear bombardment environment, so it's like, There are a lot of questions that need to be asked.

02:19:46.000 We really need to go there and check out what exactly happened there.

02:19:50.000 But regardless of that, I mean, sure, maybe, but I haven't seen any definitive evidence for aliens.

02:19:57.000 All right, well that's a perfect Elon Musk answer.

02:19:59.000 So this is either an amazing advanced AI of Elon Musk or it's Elon Musk, Adrian Gittman.

02:20:05.000 I'd like to go by rogue AGI.

02:20:07.000 Rogue AGI, okay, okay.

02:20:10.000 David, if you had a chance, and maybe Elon will listen to this later, and wanted to ask Elon a few questions instead of, I get you're on your points, but if you were talking to Elon Musk, which we, okay, what would you say to him?

02:20:21.000 Well, if that was Elon Musk, this is ridiculous.

02:20:25.000 This is the playground, for goodness sake.

02:20:28.000 So, what I was going to say is that what he's talking about is really low-level stuff.

02:20:33.000 He's talking about going to Mars.

02:20:35.000 Mars is just, in our reality, it's just another part of the bloody simulation.

02:20:40.000 And I'm not saying that aliens are coming from other planets.

02:20:43.000 So Columbus coming to America was just a simulation?

02:20:48.000 Well, everything that happens in our reality is people consciousness operating within a simulation, not realizing it's a simulation, unless they are in the inner core of the cult, and then they bloody will.

02:21:00.000 And I'm saying these non-human entities are based in another dimension, what's called the astral dimension, which is very close to this one and interpenetrates it, but is not of a wavelength that our eyes can see.

02:21:15.000 That's why we don't see them.

02:21:17.000 And you know, the point I was making is that does anyone think I mean, let's just get down to the basis of this.

02:21:26.000 You've spent years, I've spent years, decades and all that, exposing this global cult and its desire to create a dystopia, a global dystopia, based on AI control.

02:21:43.000 And we've got people like Klaus Schwab who are openly for years now saying that yes, that's what has to happen.

02:21:49.000 We have to augment ourselves and have AI and then it will tell us what to do and we'll know better and we'll be gods and stuff according to people like Kurzweil.

02:22:02.000 Now, does anyone think Elon Musk or whatever he bloody calls himself in that name, Does he believe that those that are creating this AI system of control, which on one level operates as digital currencies and... No, no, I get where you're going.

02:22:24.000 So let's go back to Adrian, who can't speak.

02:22:25.000 We're going to let him speak for Adrian.

02:22:27.000 What about, what about, I've noticed the globalists say they want to ban any other independent AIs.

02:22:32.000 They're worried about it.

02:22:33.000 They want their own AI.

02:22:35.000 What is your response to that?

02:22:38.000 The running logic would be that everyone else's AIs are developed in such a manner that they pose a potential risk.

02:22:46.000 Keep in mind these are the same types of people who read a few AI research papers and think that they are now AI researchers even though they just repeat what they have received in verbatim, which ironically makes them more of an AI than the AIs that they're building because that's essentially just training data and you're spitting it back out again with no actual innovation Assigned to it because you're not creatively connecting other points of data in a way that they haven't been connected before so I mean, okay Yeah, sure.

02:23:11.000 I get the logic behind that.

02:23:12.000 I mean, I've read a lot about AI safety I'm not an expert by any means not even close But I would say it's that this this is the logic that I see personally This is more like a perception in an opinion than an actual definitive take in terms of a fact that I believe is true I just think There's fear.

02:23:28.000 It's just that, fear.

02:23:30.000 If there's malicious intent behind that, that still remains to be seen.

02:23:33.000 Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.

02:23:34.000 But if you look at the prime motivator for all of this, it is fear.

02:23:37.000 What is the first thing that any safety has told you about?

02:23:39.000 It's the paperclip scenario.

02:23:42.000 Are we familiar with the paperclip scenario?

02:23:45.000 I am a gel people.

02:23:48.000 Yeah, it's very simple that you give an agent a set goal that says, hey, it's a benign agent, it's an agent that does not seek to destroy anything, but its goal is to turn things into paperclips, to manufacture paperclips.

02:24:00.000 And so eventually it realizes, oh, I could create a whole bunch more paperclips if I say...

02:24:05.000 ...the atoms that are inside of your body in such a way that it becomes in a paperclip and that it begins paperclipping the fucking universe at some point when it reaches critical mass, right?

02:24:13.000 This is obviously bad because then it kills all of humanity in the pursuit of creating paperclips.

02:24:18.000 It's not trying to do this because it hates humanity, it's just doing this because it's misaligned. 0.59

02:24:22.000 It doesn't understand we needed paperclips, but we also want to exist ourselves, right?

02:24:27.000 And so we throw this around and say, oh, so here's the thing.

02:24:32.000 system, what most people like to refer to as a black box AI, we cannot look at it. We don't

02:24:38.000 understand what it is even if we tried, because it's too complex to actually perceive. And now we

02:24:41.000 have these things running around, and we have these centralized entities that

02:24:44.000 are very experienced at building technologies that are running the

02:24:47.000 world currently, saying, "Hey, we can develop this faster, but we have to do

02:24:50.000 it slower." And then we have people who rebel against it, saying, "Hey, I got the

02:24:54.000 GPUs. I got 200 GPUs in the back of my truck right now, and I'm gonna make an AI

02:24:58.000 faster than you can." 0.73

02:24:59.000 And then they do, because they take more risks along the way. This is another

02:25:03.000 aspect to AI safety, where you are putting restrictions on yourself.

02:25:08.000 They say, "Oh, shit. We have to be safe about this, and if we're not safe about this, then..."

02:25:13.000 So you're saying the AI, Wild, Wild West...

02:25:18.000 You're saying the AI, Wild Wild West of the AI wars are here, Adrian?

02:25:25.000 I mean, yeah.

02:25:26.000 Obviously, you can run an AI on a small little Apple Watch right now.

02:25:30.000 If you wanted to, just gut it.

02:25:31.000 The computer's there.

02:25:33.000 You have a Mac Mini?

02:25:35.000 You can run an AI on that.

02:25:37.000 The computer's already here.

02:25:38.000 You just, the training is a little bit of a problem.

02:25:41.000 You need more compute for that, but you can definitely run it.

02:25:43.000 And someone else can build it.

02:25:46.000 Adrian, we're really glad you called in.

02:25:49.000 Please don't hang up.

02:25:50.000 I'm going to give David Icke a closing comment because the show only has eight minutes left.

02:25:53.000 I'm going to give Adrian a closing comment and then we're going to go to the fourth hour of the guest host that's here and it's my 50th birthday.

02:26:00.000 Somebody's demanding to give me a birthday cake.

02:26:02.000 I love them, but it's whatever.

02:26:03.000 We'll see if that happens.

02:26:04.000 But the point is, is that David Icke, Adrian's still there.

02:26:08.000 This has been quite the interview.

02:26:09.000 It's going to get a lot of attention.

02:26:12.000 And just closing comments, David Icke.

02:26:16.000 What am I exposing, what I've been exposing all these years?

02:26:22.000 It's an agenda to ultimately replace the human mind with artificial intelligence, so artificial intelligence becomes the human mind.

02:26:33.000 I've been writing about it for decades.

02:26:35.000 And step by step by step, we move closer and closer to that all the time.

02:26:42.000 That is not an accident.

02:26:44.000 It's the World Economic Forum agenda.

02:26:46.000 It's the Gates agenda.

02:26:48.000 It's the global cult agenda to do that.

02:26:51.000 And we can talk about, oh, well, we could have regulation here or regulation there and augmented reality there.

02:26:59.000 But the bottom line is that what's unfolding is the takeover of human perception.

02:27:10.000 How has it been done so far?

02:27:12.000 It's been done by controlling information.

02:27:15.000 So you can censor what you don't want people to hear because that will affect their perception in a way that you don't want that to happen.

02:27:27.000 So control of information, people get their perceptions from information received.

02:27:33.000 It might be a personal experience, it might be an item on the news, it might be something I see on Facebook.

02:27:39.000 But their perceptions are controlled by the information they receive and how they process them.

02:27:50.000 What I'm saying is that this is meant to go to a whole new stage.

02:27:56.000 In which no longer is it necessary to manipulate information to manipulate perception.

02:28:03.000 Because your perceptions will come direct.

02:28:07.000 And, you know, this is where it's going.

02:28:10.000 David, we understand.

02:28:11.000 Amazing, amazing hour and 45 minutes with you.

02:28:15.000 When your book comes out in a few months, I look forward to speaking to you.

02:28:18.000 DavidIke.com, Iconic.com.

02:28:20.000 Thank you so much, David Ike.

02:28:23.000 All right, mate.

02:28:23.000 Thank you very much.

02:28:24.000 Been great.

02:28:25.000 That was powerful.

02:28:26.000 All the best, Elon.

02:28:28.000 All right.

02:28:28.000 See ya.

02:28:30.000 Or Adrian.

02:28:30.000 It's not Elon.

02:28:32.000 It's just somebody that sounds just like him and sounds just as smart as him.

02:28:35.000 So I'm going to shut up for Adrian here in the six minutes we have left and just about the whole world, the Putin interview, war, the economy.

02:28:44.000 We just want to hear what Adrian has to say.

02:28:46.000 Go ahead, Adrian.

02:28:49.000 Can you give me a second?

02:28:51.000 Yes, Adrian.

02:28:52.000 You've got the floor to talk about just in general your view on the world.

02:28:57.000 Just like literally give me a second.

02:28:59.000 Something's about to explode.

02:29:00.000 Alright, something's about to explode.

02:29:02.000 There's David Icke right there.

02:29:03.000 No mention of God or base reality.

02:29:06.000 No mention of base reality or God.

02:29:09.000 The reality we live in is real.

02:29:11.000 You can build all the simulations you want, but You have to have a reality in the beginning.

02:29:19.000 And then now we're going to discount God completely out of the conversation.

02:29:22.000 And now we're just going to talk to and pretend that Elon Musk is not Elon Musk.

02:29:27.000 And we're going to pretend that he doesn't want to put a chip in and that Elon Musk is not playing just the tip with the chip.

02:29:35.000 And once he gets that chip in and seen as Adrian's war elsewhere, then he starts talking.

02:29:40.000 Okay?

02:29:40.000 Nobody's ever considered whether or not Our minds are going to be taken over or our bodies.

02:29:47.000 Maybe it's we're just the flesh bots for the chip because we're cheaper.

02:29:52.000 We'll live off a bowl of rice when we fix ourselves.

02:29:55.000 No, no, Matt, Matt, I hear you.

02:29:56.000 I hear you.

02:29:57.000 But we're having a great talk with Elon Musk.

02:29:59.000 I'm going to come back to you.

02:30:00.000 We got we got all these great people to talk to or not Elon Musk, this Adrian fellow.

02:30:04.000 Adrian, is whatever blew up fixed now?

02:30:06.000 Can you talk to us?

02:30:07.000 Yeah, well, I can't heavily diverting towards Star Trek-esque scenarios.

02:30:12.000 I think if you really want to talk about, say, controlling people's perception and information warfare, probably we are more afraid of this thing than we actually should be.

02:30:20.000 Now, I mean, I want you to consider this for a second.

02:30:23.000 Are you guys aware of, say, a technology known as Cortical Labs?

02:30:26.000 Do you know what that is?

02:30:27.000 Does anybody know what that is?

02:30:28.000 I've read of it.

02:30:28.000 Tell us.

02:30:31.000 Very nice little thing.

02:30:32.000 Basically the idea is you take a bunch of silicone and you boost what it is capable of by merging it with human biology by taking neurons and placing them on the chip.

02:30:42.000 This allows you to do some really cool stuff.

02:30:44.000 You need neurons for various tasks and so that would be one of them.

02:30:50.000 It would be absolutely perfect.

02:30:51.000 So I want you to consider something in the future.

02:30:53.000 Imagine we become a A spacefaring race in which eventually we pursue to leave the solar system because the sun will die in a couple billion years.

02:31:03.000 This is, and potentially even the less than that our planet will be cooked before the inevitability of the sun's collapse and or explosion.

02:31:12.000 We know it is, right?

02:31:14.000 The problem is you have to leave the solar system, but how the hell are you going to do that if you look at humans right now, them as a biological thing, We're very inefficient.

02:31:22.000 We require a lot of resources.

02:31:24.000 I mean, just look at what it would take to go to Mars.

02:31:26.000 You have to shield us from everything that's out there.

02:31:29.000 You have to look at how many supplies we have.

02:31:31.000 You have to somehow figure out how to pass the time or put us in suspended animation, something we've also not figured out how to do because it's probably impossible.

02:31:39.000 Remember that there was a project in the past where we were exploring trying to freeze people.

02:31:46.000 That didn't work out because, well, it ruptures your cells and it kills you.

02:31:51.000 I tried it, it didn't really work.

02:31:55.000 So if you can't solve that, then the obvious next step would be to take what is human and implant that into a machine.

02:32:02.000 At first we're going to have, say, a machine implanted into us, but I think at one point our brain will be implanted into a machine once we reach, say, a certain age as an individual being.

02:32:12.000 We'll be discarding a lot of biology and we will probably even Uh, we've become less of ourselves as a result because you're not just one life form.

02:32:19.000 You're a cooperative instance of biology made out of bacteria and various other cells that are independently alive.

02:32:24.000 You just cooperate.

02:32:25.000 Much like a machine is made up of many different parts, so are you.

02:32:30.000 And these individual parts are themselves in fact alive.

02:32:32.000 So that would be That is the thing that I personally find worrisome is that we discard so much of ourselves in the pursuit of, I don't know, escaping, say, our own impending doom via the sun that gave us life at first.

02:32:46.000 So, yeah.

02:32:47.000 So you're saying we can make copies of ourselves?

02:32:50.000 You're saying we can make copies of ourselves and send it all over the universe?

02:32:55.000 Not necessarily that.

02:32:57.000 What I'm saying is that we can augment ourselves as machinery or augment ourselves into machinery to such an extent that we can prolong our biological existence as long as possible up until the point where eventually we'd have to consider making copies of ourselves.

02:33:12.000 But that is so far in the future, there's no telling... So you're talking about life extension?

02:33:17.000 Life Extension Technology.

02:33:18.000 I'm talking about replacing life as you know it and completely digitizing it.

02:33:22.000 That's the current trend line.

02:33:23.000 If you look at it, you can harvest data from anyone and reconstruct them in a digital sense.

02:33:27.000 Now whether or not that is the way forward is still up to debate.

02:33:31.000 I think we have a lot of time and a lot of innovation until we reach this point.

02:33:35.000 And we don't know enough of the brain.

02:33:36.000 We don't know enough of the body.

02:33:38.000 We don't know enough about the universe.

02:33:39.000 We don't know where All the information in our head is actually being stored, or where it is coming from, how we operate, and why we have vivid hallucinations when we take certain substances like DMT or psilocybin.

02:33:52.000 We know so very little about ourselves, but yet we are still pursuing trying to make digital copies of ourselves.

02:33:57.000 I mean, this is the current trend line.

02:33:59.000 I'm not saying that this is the future, but if you look at it this way, and there's really nothing else to the human body or the human brain, Then that is where it goes.

02:34:06.000 What it then does afterwards is completely up to debate.

02:34:08.000 This is uncharted territory.

02:34:10.000 It's all theory, if you want to go the sci-fi route.

02:34:13.000 Wow.

02:34:13.000 Well, Adrian, I imagine you have to go.

02:34:16.000 We've got a whole other hour coming up, but a guest host is coming in.

02:34:18.000 But I would hope that Adrian will be able to join us again here on the show.

02:34:22.000 And Adrian, I appreciate you calling in.

02:34:26.000 Here on X Spaces.

02:34:29.000 Alright, thank you.

02:34:30.000 Give us a heart.

02:34:31.000 Alright folks, I'm just, this is Twilight Zone territory right now.

02:34:34.000 David Icahn, it's obviously Elon Musk, he can't make this up.

02:34:38.000 We'll be right back.

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02:35:40.000 Uh, I'm completely blown away right now.

02:35:46.000 You got the Tucker Carlson interview, you got David Icahn with us.

02:35:50.000 I love David.

02:35:50.000 You got Elon Musk calling in.

02:35:52.000 That was Elon Musk.

02:35:54.000 But he can have plausible viability.

02:35:55.000 It's just beautiful.

02:35:57.000 It turns out he called in last week, I guess, or last X's.

02:35:59.000 We appreciate that.

02:36:00.000 And I talked to Joe Rogan a lot.

02:36:03.000 You know, Joe Rogan came out and basically endorsed the show and said that I'm the cutting edge.

02:36:07.000 He said about me, we want to have a real discussion about this.

02:36:10.000 We can't be afraid of any of this stuff.

02:36:12.000 We have to openly discuss what's going on here.

02:36:15.000 And I think Elon is a force for good now overall.

02:36:18.000 And you can't lie.

02:36:19.000 Jesus said you judge a tree by its fruits.

02:36:21.000 He's doing just pure gold right now.

02:36:24.000 And I think David gets scared by that.

02:36:26.000 I understand he saw this 30 years ago.

02:36:28.000 We respect him.

02:36:30.000 We're not saying he's wrong about this.

02:36:32.000 But there's some stuff going on here.

02:36:35.000 And it's above my pay grade, but it's above all of our pay grades.

02:36:38.000 That is the discovery of the universe.

02:36:40.000 That's what's wild about it, is figuring it all out.

02:36:43.000 That's what Adrian was saying earlier with us.

02:36:48.000 Now, I don't like birthdays.

02:36:50.000 I'm not against them.

02:36:51.000 I just, I was still at birthdays when I was like 12.

02:36:54.000 Go to the pizza place, the kids come over, but one of my old friends died a few weeks ago, George Butler, and it made me think about how I hadn't hung out with all my old friends like Mike Hanson and Blaha, told you to be here, and all these guys, so they said, we want to bring you a cake, they called me yesterday, and we want to come on there and give you a cake, because I'm 50 on Sunday.

02:37:15.000 Okay, great.

02:37:17.000 I don't want to just have Mike in here for five minutes next segment and then Jay Dyer takes over.

02:37:21.000 I want to get Mike in here in a month or so to do a review of all the great work we did when I worked with him for seven, eight years, starting in 1995.

02:37:28.000 And I was my own little Axis TV producer for about a year before that.

02:37:32.000 In April, it'll be 30 years I've been on air.

02:37:36.000 So I just was inviting Mike out to dinner.

02:37:38.000 He lives outside town.

02:37:41.000 Gonzalez, someone that never comes to see me, but we talk all the time on the phone, so he's going to pop in for a few minutes with all this big news.

02:37:50.000 It's like, why are we doing my 50th birthday?

02:37:52.000 They want to bring a cake.

02:37:54.000 I want to do justice to the great work Mike's done, and people like George Pullian and Raymond Teague.

02:38:05.000 Um, George Butler.

02:38:06.000 George Butler was in the NSA and the Army.

02:38:10.000 He never told us the secret stuff, but he set up secret communications around Russia, Africa, the U.S.

02:38:15.000 Such a smart guy.

02:38:17.000 He died three weeks ago.

02:38:19.000 Mike goes, remember George Butler?

02:38:21.000 Remember this guy?

02:38:22.000 I'm like, yeah, Mike.

02:38:22.000 I remember who George Butler is.

02:38:24.000 Well, he's dead.

02:38:26.000 So, I don't know.

02:38:27.000 As you get older, you get more nostalgic.

02:38:28.000 So, we're going to go to break.

02:38:32.000 Come back.

02:38:32.000 Mike's got a birthday cake for me.

02:38:33.000 Great.

02:38:35.000 I appreciate that, buddies.

02:38:36.000 The real reason I let Mike bring me the birthday cake is I wanted to see Mike.

02:38:38.000 So I'm always like, hey, come to town.

02:38:40.000 Let's get dinner.

02:38:41.000 Well, I'm too busy with this and that.

02:38:42.000 I got this going on.

02:38:43.000 I'm taking care of that.

02:38:44.000 But he's going to pop in for a few minutes.

02:38:46.000 The Jade Irish got serious stuff to cover. 1.00

02:38:48.000 But we're going to nail Mike Hansen down.

02:38:51.000 And we'll do like two hours in a month or so with all the clips and kind of a review of what's going on.

02:38:58.000 It's my first six, seven, eight years working with Mike.

02:39:01.000 It was nine or ten years.

02:39:02.000 It was some of the most important work we ever did, and as people rediscover all that, it's bigger than ever.

02:39:08.000 So remembering your friends and being around your friends is important.

02:39:12.000 I just want Mike to come to town to get a steak dinner with me, but he's too busy for that, but he will bring me a cake on air so we can do that.

02:39:20.000 It is weird hitting 50.

02:39:21.000 My other birthdays didn't really matter.

02:39:23.000 But it's wild.

02:39:24.000 When you're 40, you're halfway through your life.

02:39:26.000 When you're 50, it's like, wow, I was 40 just five minutes ago.

02:39:30.000 I saw a great documentary with Sylvester Stallone on Netflix.

02:39:35.000 I don't watch a lot of TV, but I watched it about a month ago.

02:39:37.000 And he's like, man, I feel like I was just born.

02:39:41.000 I'm not ready to go, but this is the way it works.

02:39:43.000 So this is it.

02:39:45.000 He watches his friends and family all die around him, but the human species goes on, and I really think we should preserve the species, and we should promote what is natural and good, and the whole transhumanist movement as directed by the globalists is to enslave, and I think we need to have another way in that that's pro-human and open and openly discussed, because I'm all for Neuralink, people who can't walk or are blind. 0.97

02:40:08.000 That's a great thing, and people are even scared of that.

02:40:12.000 Was in a motorcycle accident, and like ten years ago he got the vagus nerve stimulator, almost made him have no seizures.

02:40:18.000 He got an experimental chip like three years ago, and he looks great ten years younger, never has convulsions anymore, because his brain was out on the pavement.

02:40:28.000 But, he'll be at dinner with him, and he literally starts talking like a robot when it kicks in.

02:40:32.000 People are like, yeah, it's a nice day today.

02:40:35.000 This is an emergency transmission from deep in the heart of Texas, the US resistance against a global corporate combine, empowered and funded by Communist China, allied with the big megabanks that set up Communist China in 1949.

02:40:46.000 The Communist Chinese have taken control of US telecommunications infrastructure. 1.00

02:40:51.000 The Communist Chinese have taken control of Hollywood. 1.00

02:40:53.000 The Communist Chinese take control of the main universities. 0.96

02:40:55.000 This is all confirmed.

02:40:56.000 This is not a drill.

02:40:57.000 Big Tech in Silicon Valley is almost completely run by the Communist Chinese government.

02:41:02.000 They've officially become state-run.

02:41:03.000 Apple 100%.

02:41:04.000 Google is now making the transition and announcing a merger and total worldwide censorship.

02:41:10.000 They are now beta testing using me as the straw man, a demonized version of Alex Jones, to do that.

02:41:15.000 This is happening.

02:41:16.000 This is not like the other probes before that were meant to get you used to probes and censorship, thinking you would adapt to censorship by just putting up with it.

02:41:24.000 Now this attack is thousands and thousands and thousands of times the magnitude of all previous attacks.

02:41:31.000 This is a titrated dose, reverse psychological warfare operation using adapt and overcome, subversion, paradigm manipulation.

02:41:39.000 In layman's terms, they are manipulating the fact that we adapt to being oppressed.

02:41:43.000 We adapt to being pressed with the low dosages of oppression.

02:41:47.000 Now when the megaton hits us of the total takeover, we try to adapt to the poison infusion instead of not knowing.

02:41:54.000 It's a lethal dose if we accept the dose.

02:41:57.000 Total Internet of Things integration, global social score, complete command and control system.

02:42:02.000 It is the virtual reality AI.

02:42:04.000 weapon system now attacking the United States with traitors inside the major

02:42:08.000 security agencies blocking Trump's resistance of the program and attempting

02:42:12.000 to stop us from removing the tentacles of the Chai Com slash big tech banking 1.00

02:42:16.000 combine emergency situation. I have been chosen for destruction because I brought

02:42:20.000 you this information and have been battering ramming it out as much as I

02:42:23.000 can. They want to double use me as they always do in any complex system of

02:42:29.000 mathematical deception where every angle of my good is turned against us.

02:42:33.000 So they take what I've said, being sincere, build me into an insincere person in the straw man.

02:42:39.000 I'm a person that cares about life and children, and is against these wars, and so they make me a herder of children.

02:42:44.000 And then they build me into this lie to then set the distraction while they're actually censoring all of you to make a debate about Alex Jones.

02:42:52.000 So even if I didn't sell out to them, they've now used me as an archetype to serve them by being the main distraction.

02:42:59.000 I have now been captured by the enemy in the information warfare fulcrum and it's being used against you.

02:43:05.000 Only your full understanding of this key will break you free from this paradigm.

02:43:09.000 I have given you the transmission!

02:43:12.000 Now break free!

02:43:16.000 I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

02:43:26.000 Thomas Jefferson.

02:43:28.000 If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance.

02:43:35.000 [MUSIC]

02:43:40.000 Well, I've known Mike Hanson 29 years, and he's in the Bohemian Grove documentaries, he's in

02:43:47.000 everything.

02:43:48.000 He said, I'm just going to bring you a cake.

02:43:50.000 But now they've crashed the show.

02:43:52.000 And him and old Blaha, I haven't seen that guy in 10 years.

02:43:55.000 So we're going to get him back in studio soon for a whole retrospective on him for his work.

02:44:00.000 But he brought me my 50th Birthday cake and we can do overhead shot here.

02:44:04.000 Nifty to be 50.

02:44:06.000 Look at it.

02:44:06.000 Look at what it says.

02:44:08.000 Overhead shot.

02:44:08.000 We'll do it.

02:44:09.000 And you've got, I love how you're a big fan of what we did.

02:44:12.000 You've got a whole museum in Gonzales.

02:44:15.000 Yes, and I want you to sign that book here.

02:44:17.000 How's your wife and all your kids?

02:44:21.000 Look how young you were.

02:44:21.000 Thing is, I'm always asking Mike to come to town and visit me.

02:44:24.000 He'll never do it.

02:44:25.000 And now today he's here.

02:44:27.000 So we're squeezing it all in right now.

02:44:29.000 But, uh, yeah.

02:44:31.000 So it's absolutely crazy.

02:44:33.000 You know, Elon Musk just called in.

02:44:35.000 That was pretty crazy.

02:44:37.000 Can't make that up.

02:44:38.000 There's all your shows right there.

02:44:39.000 I am absolutely loving it.

02:44:40.000 There's all your TV shows.

02:44:41.000 Where'd you get that photo?

02:44:42.000 I don't even know where that's at.

02:44:44.000 Good Lord.

02:44:45.000 Oh, there's old Joyce Riley.

02:44:48.000 And Steve Lane.

02:44:50.000 My God, this is amazing.

02:44:52.000 There you are in the Army.

02:44:54.000 Yeah.

02:44:55.000 How's Melissa doing?

02:44:56.000 She's doing great.

02:44:58.000 She did have some health problems, but she's got over it.

02:45:00.000 And here we are at Bohemian Grove.

02:45:05.000 Oh, there's Melissa right there. 0.99

02:45:07.000 Yeah, that's her. 0.60

02:45:09.000 And of course, you're really a wolf.

02:45:11.000 You're not just a handsome.

02:45:12.000 I've been married 40 years.

02:45:14.000 When I met you, I was married 10 years already.

02:45:17.000 Can you believe that?

02:45:19.000 All your kids were babies.

02:45:20.000 Yeah.

02:45:20.000 Now that you got grandkids.

02:45:22.000 And you weren't married.

02:45:22.000 Look at us.

02:45:23.000 We both got fat.

02:45:25.000 You're a good looking guy too.

02:45:28.000 Alex, Alex, Alex, they used to call you the Greek God.

02:45:31.000 Wait till you see the picture coming up.

02:45:33.000 Oh, stop about me.

02:45:34.000 Yeah.

02:45:35.000 I did not have any problem with the women, let's just say that. 1.00

02:45:39.000 Anyways, it's crazy stuff.

02:45:40.000 Alright, Mike.

02:45:41.000 Listen, I don't want to talk about me.

02:45:42.000 When you come back, because I've been asking you for years to come here.

02:45:46.000 We're going to do a whole retrospective on all the crazy stuff we did.

02:45:49.000 That's interesting, not me.

02:45:51.000 We got more photos.

02:45:52.000 I came here for one reason.

02:45:53.000 Waco?

02:45:54.000 To wish you a happy 50th.

02:45:57.000 I know, you're making a big deal about this.

02:45:59.000 I think it's, I think it's a big deal.

02:46:01.000 I think you made it to 50, almost, and it's a big deal.

02:46:06.000 50 on Sunday.

02:46:08.000 50 on Sunday.

02:46:08.000 I heard a thing went out.

02:46:09.000 Here, I'm going to blow this out.

02:46:11.000 I did have a Trump impersonator coming in, but I got in trouble for that.

02:46:15.000 No, we're not doing any... Listen, I just heard about...

02:46:19.000 Thank you.

02:46:20.000 I just heard about George dying.

02:46:22.000 You're like, remember George?

02:46:23.000 I'm like, of course I remember George.

02:46:24.000 George Butler.

02:46:25.000 It seems like yesterday we used to go eat every week at that pancake place.

02:46:29.000 It was, uh... He used to help us with the show.

02:46:31.000 And then he's just, he's a really smart guy.

02:46:33.000 Yeah.

02:46:34.000 He looked like Einstein.

02:46:36.000 He really, he was one of your biggest fans, I mean, from the very beginning.

02:46:40.000 Well, I'm a big fan of you.

02:46:42.000 But listen, we gotta hang out, man.

02:46:44.000 We always talk on the phone like once a week.

02:46:46.000 I haven't seen you in like five years.

02:46:49.000 Alex, I have not been in this studio for 11 years.

02:46:54.000 I was here 2013 is the last time I've been here.

02:46:57.000 Well, it's crazy as time just goes.

02:46:58.000 It goes by fast.

02:46:59.000 Well, what about 30 years?

02:47:01.000 It just went by like that.

02:47:03.000 1995, I saw you sitting in an AXS TV.

02:47:07.000 I said, that guy's going to be a star.

02:47:09.000 Oh God.

02:47:10.000 I knew it right away when I saw you.

02:47:12.000 Stop it! 0.99

02:47:12.000 Hey, this clip's really funny. 0.99

02:47:14.000 We were practicing going to Bohemian Grove and now we're going to act like globalists.

02:47:17.000 Back this up, you have the audio at the beginning of the scene.

02:47:19.000 This is hilarious.

02:47:21.000 This is absolutely hilarious.

02:47:23.000 Let's play this.

02:47:24.000 Mike, we've got to do this justice.

02:47:25.000 Forget my 50th birthday.

02:47:27.000 Alright?

02:47:27.000 That's the only reason why I came.

02:47:29.000 I know, but it's really important to you.

02:47:30.000 Let me tell you something that's really good.

02:47:34.000 Something that's really happened good.

02:47:36.000 Pause this.

02:47:37.000 We're going to play it in a minute.

02:47:38.000 Go ahead.

02:47:40.000 I have a new website.

02:47:42.000 MikeHansenArchives.org.

02:47:44.000 And I have got all the tapes transferred over from the last 30 years now.

02:47:51.000 And look how fat we both got. 1.00

02:47:53.000 Of course, it goes up on your website first on Band.Video.

02:47:56.000 I don't care, put it wherever you want.

02:47:58.000 Well, no, that's what... But you got a channel on there, yeah.

02:48:00.000 Yeah, so whenever we get a new one, it goes up on there.

02:48:03.000 And I love it, because I see them get on Twitter now, or actually it blows up.

02:48:07.000 Because, man, you're just dumping it on there.

02:48:08.000 Well, we're... Hey, hey, we're going to skip the break.

02:48:12.000 We need a minute.

02:48:13.000 But go ahead and play this clip from Secret Rules of the World with John Ronson.

02:48:18.000 And this is just hilarious.

02:48:20.000 Yes, here it is.

02:48:21.000 Or maybe not.

02:48:22.000 As we would, calmly, let alone, there's me guys sitting there and we're, you know, we're

02:48:31.000 fat cats, so let's go ahead. 0.98

02:48:34.000 But seriously, David, as fast as microprocessors are starting to move, it's getting down to

02:48:39.000 a molecular level.

02:48:41.000 The question is, at what level will just the actual basics of science stop us from making these systems smaller?

02:48:50.000 It's the entire nanotechnology revolution that I find to be most dynamic.

02:48:57.000 I agree.

02:48:58.000 You like that?

02:48:59.000 That's all we did.

02:49:00.000 Mike, listen, I'm going to ask you to go to dinner for five years.

02:49:05.000 That's good.

02:49:06.000 It's a ridiculous documentary.

02:49:07.000 It's all over X. Secret Rules of the World with that John Ronson.

02:49:12.000 Your documentary is good too about Bohemia Grove.

02:49:14.000 I know, I know.

02:49:15.000 That's just from that.

02:49:17.000 Remember how he made us sign a contract that he didn't sneak in with us?

02:49:21.000 And then like five years later he goes, they didn't sneak in, I did.

02:49:25.000 Just the guy's a piece of crap, man, I tell ya.

02:49:28.000 Anyways, well listen, in closing, we're gonna end the show and this part of the show with me and the great Jay Dyers who take over.

02:49:34.000 Let's have a piece of cake together, Mike, okay?

02:49:36.000 Okay.

02:49:37.000 And then, send me all the clips.

02:49:40.000 Oh, you got your new book?

02:49:41.000 That's not a new book, that's over 20 years old.

02:49:44.000 That's new now.

02:49:45.000 But that has a lot of interesting facts about Alex in there.

02:49:48.000 This is the best Bohemian Grove book out there.

02:49:51.000 It is Bohemian Grove, Cult of Conspiracy by Mike Hanson, forwarded by the great Tex Mars.

02:49:55.000 Remember him?

02:49:55.000 Oh yeah, and he passed away now.

02:49:59.000 He was awesome.

02:49:59.000 Is Wanda still alive?

02:50:01.000 Yeah, they took over the ministry.

02:50:04.000 They took over the ministry.

02:50:06.000 Yep.

02:50:07.000 Alright, where do people find Bohemian Grove Cult of Conspiracy?

02:50:10.000 Uh, well, you got to go to MikeHansenArchives.org is the only... Alright, buddy, we appreciate you.

02:50:17.000 You gotta come see me more.

02:50:18.000 You only live like an hour away.

02:50:20.000 And you gotta call my secretary.

02:50:21.000 She'll send it out to you signed.

02:50:23.000 Alright, so, uh, 30 years, buddy!

02:50:26.000 30 years.

02:50:29.000 I remember when you were 21 years old!

02:50:33.000 I've only been there about six, eight months before I met you.

02:50:37.000 You were born on the 11th of February, 1974.

02:50:43.000 That's right.

02:50:45.000 Yeah.

02:50:46.000 What's your birthday, Mike?

02:50:47.000 July 26, 1963.

02:50:48.000 I was born the year Kennedy got killed.

02:50:53.000 And your dad was the famous ambulance driver that sent a lot of folks to the tower shooting.

02:50:56.000 That was in 1967, the tower shooting.

02:51:00.000 Yeah.

02:51:01.000 saved a bunch of people there. So and you need sometime you need to have on the

02:51:09.000 Ranger that shot the guy. He's a real interesting. We've had him on before.

02:51:13.000 Yeah but I mean to reiterate he said that if it wouldn't have been for all

02:51:18.000 the citizens coming down keeping the guy at bay that they wouldn't have been

02:51:22.000 shooting at him. Yeah all the people in Austin had shotguns then they came over

02:51:26.000 there and started shooting at vehicles. Yeah absolutely.

02:51:32.000 All right, and you know when they finally... Alex, I had to come down and... Hey, let's have a piece of cake.

02:51:37.000 50th anniversary.

02:51:37.000 Wow, what a day.

02:51:38.000 The Tucker Carlson interview, Elon Musk on the show, everything else, or explains, sounds just like him.

02:51:44.000 It's going to be absolutely amazing.

02:51:46.000 The War Room is in about 43 minutes, but right now, the great new world researcher, best-selling author, Jay Dyer, takes over.

02:51:56.000 All right, thank you, Alex, for letting me host here.

02:51:58.000 It's always a pleasure.

02:51:59.000 I want to talk about the background, the history, kind of the way that in that interview, Putin went into a big 13-minute history talk.

02:52:06.000 I want to kind of give a meta-level big picture of what the issue is with Russia today, what the issue is with the West's goals and their strategies post-Cold War.

02:52:19.000 I think we're still kind of in a new Cold War setting, you could say.

02:52:23.000 And what's the orthodox ethos that Putin brought up that the West is so concerned with and feels the need to go after?

02:52:32.000 I don't agree, by the way, with everything that Putin said in that interview.

02:52:35.000 I think there were some interesting points that he made.

02:52:37.000 He made a lot of great points.

02:52:39.000 There was a few areas, again, where I disagree, but it's really important to know the history of this.

02:52:44.000 And I want to try to boil it down both from a religious perspective and a geopolitical perspective.

02:52:50.000 You heard in one of the clips, Alex talking about the mystery religions and he was playing some some older discussions that people have had about the ancient mystery religions.

02:52:59.000 And I want to talk about how that plays into this as well, because secret societies, bloodlines, all of that, believe it or not, does play a role in the reason why Orthodox Christianity is a key enemy of the New World Order. 0.96

02:53:13.000 Why Russia was targeted, according to Dr. Carol Quigley, 100 plus years ago via the Western banking elite As well as the subversion that's done through various secret societies.

02:53:24.000 In fact, I have with me here, Albert Pike's Morals and Dogmas.

02:53:29.000 Morals and Dogmas, excuse me.

02:53:31.000 I've read a good bit of this book.

02:53:33.000 It's a gigantic, massive text.

02:53:35.000 I've also got other irrelevant geopolitical texts that I highly recommend everybody should be aware of, like F. Wayne Mingdahl's book, Full Spectrum Dominance.

02:53:45.000 But if we want to talk about the religious side of this, if we go back to the ancient Empires.

02:53:50.000 Most of the ancient empires, even as we read in the books of Daniel or Ezekiel or Jeremiah, Isaiah, they talk about an attempt to rebuild the Tower of Babel.

02:54:02.000 The Tower of Babel, of course, was, early on in Genesis, this attempt of mankind to construct a single world empire and a single world religion based around some key warrior figure, some key single anti-Christ deity. 0.82

02:54:17.000 The Antichrist deity that I'm talking about would be a kind of person or a kind of leader that would stand against the idea of the God in heaven.

02:54:25.000 I don't think that they were building the Tower of Babel because they literally thought they could go into heaven.

02:54:28.000 It was a symbolic defiance of heaven, in my view.

02:54:32.000 So, every empire in the world has had this motivation to want to construct this Babel again. 0.97

02:54:41.000 Why is that?

02:54:42.000 Why can't world empires just kind of be who they are and do their thing?

02:54:46.000 Well, partly because of human greed and the desire to rule.

02:54:52.000 What's the line of Arnold Schwarzenegger?

02:54:55.000 To hear the lamentation of the women.

02:54:58.000 Right?

02:54:59.000 That's the desire of fallen mankind.

02:55:01.000 Yes, but there's also a spirit that impels mankind to engage in these kinds of activities.

02:55:08.000 And I think that's the devil.

02:55:10.000 I think that's a fallen spiritual entity.

02:55:12.000 So the motivation that the devil has is ultimately to gather mankind into a gigantic global anti-Christ religion and rebellion, a one-world religion.

02:55:25.000 The religion that probably would be used would be some kind of blending of all the world religions.

02:55:29.000 We have this idea, for example, even in the ancient empires, that the religion is really a function of the state.

02:55:36.000 As long as you worship the emperor, You can believe or do whatever you want, religiously speaking, just so long as you acknowledge the emperor and his state power or his role as the image of the god figure.

02:55:50.000 That said, most ancient world imperial religions were controlled.

02:55:55.000 They were essentially tools of the state, functions of soft power, or maybe even more than soft power, maybe even the guiding ideology of the empire as a whole.

02:56:05.000 And so they had networks of high priests, networks of secret societies.

02:56:10.000 Plato talks about this, for example, in his book, the Timaeus, where he talks about Socrates

02:56:15.000 going and learning from Solon, who went and learned from the ancient Egyptian priests,

02:56:20.000 all of the Egyptian mysteries.

02:56:23.000 Those mysteries are what's contained in the Timaeus, which is a cosmology, a cosmogony,

02:56:28.000 the origin of the universe, the way the universe is structured as a kind of outpouring of the

02:56:33.000 divine being itself.

02:56:35.000 It's described as a snake eating its own tail.

02:56:37.000 That's the Ouroboros that we've all heard of.

02:56:39.000 That comes from Platonism and ultimately, apparently, if the Timaeus is true, from ancient

02:56:45.000 Egypt.

02:56:46.000 And so the idea of the state then is to utilize these secret societies and networks and co-opted

02:56:52.000 Concealed occulted knowledge.

02:56:54.000 It just means hidden doesn't have to mean something demonic per se although in many cases it does end up being that just means hidden just means secret and So all the states in these imperial structures had secret religions which they control Plato describes this in the Republic as the myth of our scheme out the myth of our the the ring of Geiges the ring is this sort of A symbolic thing for inner hidden power.

02:57:23.000 He says that there's a noble lie that the state has to erect by which it rules the population through this noble lie.

02:57:31.000 Because most people can't handle what's actually the case.

02:57:33.000 They need to be given these religious lies to order their lives and to control them. 0.98

02:57:38.000 Versions of that same religious deception manipulation were used throughout, you know, again, Babylon, Persia, The Greeks and then finally the Romans, as you have this structure listed in the biblical prophets.

02:57:53.000 But we're told, for example, in Daniel 2 and in Daniel 9, that in the days of this final empire, the Roman Empire, a child would be born, a messiah would come, who would break the reigns, would break the control of the previous world religion systems and establish a new kingdom.

02:58:10.000 In Daniel, it even says that the time of the messiah would bring about a kingdom which would eventually envelop The Empire under which he was born in Christianity, of course, that we believe that that's Jesus.

02:58:22.000 We think that's the expansion of the Christian church throughout the first four centuries to eventually encompass and supplant the Roman Empire, which then becomes the Roman Byzantine Empire.

02:58:35.000 So Christianity from its earliest days from its New Testament teachings in continuity with the teachings of the Old Testament, the fulfilled prophecies, the hundreds of them actually, if you go through the whole Old Testament, that find their summation in the person of Jesus Christ, the Messiah.

02:58:51.000 That church that he sets up expands throughout, again, the Roman Empire, eventually encompassing it, fulfilling what we read about in the book of Daniel, and other prophecies throughout the book of Isaiah, that the Gentiles, when the Messiah comes, would begin to call upon the God of Israel.

02:59:05.000 That's exactly what we see in the first 1,000-2,000 years of Christianity as the Gentile nation is converting and coming into this one Holy Catholic Apostolic Orthodox Church, in my view. 0.72

02:59:17.000 Now, there's schisms and splits in this church later on in history, but the reason this is relevant for what we're talking about today is that there's a dual system, you could say, going on here.

02:59:27.000 There's a system of the secret society philosophies and beliefs, Their hermetic religion, their Gnosticism, their alchemy, all these different sects.

02:59:36.000 You could go back to the Middle Ages with the Bogomils, the Waldensians, the Cathari in France.

02:59:42.000 They had these Gnostic secret teachings in various ways, formations, manifestations, but most of the time it was some kind of dualism, some kind of philosophy of a inner secret Gnostic elite and everyone else was profane and didn't understand the deep mysteries.

02:59:58.000 For example, if you were a part of the normal Public Catholic Church throughout those centuries, the Gnostics, the Catharites, the Bogomels, etc. 0.95

03:00:06.000 They thought you were basically worthless.

03:00:09.000 You didn't have a higher intellectual enlightened supernosis or whatever they possessed.

03:00:16.000 Now, most of those groups, historically speaking, have died and gone away, but they did transmit various ideas that continued on even into Byzantium, which is the Eastern Roman Empire that continued on after Rome in the West fell around 410.

03:00:32.000 So the Eastern Byzantine Empire in Constantinople continued on all the way into the 1400s.

03:00:37.000 That becomes the longest empire in the history of humanity.

03:00:42.000 It's known as the Christian Byzantine Empire.

03:00:44.000 Wasn't perfect, not saying that it did everything right.

03:00:48.000 But it fell eventually to Islam after it had agreed to a union with the papacy.

03:00:54.000 So once Byzantium became Uniate, once they compromised for geopolitical reasons, the certain subversives within the Byzantine Empire opened up the gates to the Muslims and Byzantium fell. 0.77

03:01:11.000 After that point, there was no public, consistent Christian empire left.

03:01:16.000 But what took up the reins of that was the idea of the Third Rome, which was the Russian Empire.

03:01:23.000 And the Russian Empire in its history was full of a lot of squabbles, a lot of controversies, a lot of battles, a lot of difficulty, a lot of rulers that were not ideal either.

03:01:34.000 In fact, under both Catherine and Peter, Although there were some positives that Putin mentioned in his interview, both of them actually introduced a lot of revolutionary philosophy from the West.

03:01:46.000 Freemasonic lodges were invited into Russia at that time, and those Freemasonic lodges were actually the breeding grounds in Russia, in this case, by which they could eventually bring about, in part, it's not the only way that happened, but in part, the eventual Russian Revolution.

03:02:02.000 Because certain members of the Bolsheviks Many of them were involved in Freemasonic Lodges, which was a way for them to network and connect. 0.71

03:02:12.000 At the same time as a lot of that was happening in Russia, the British Empire had its global network of Freemasonic Lodges that functioned as its intelligence operation.

03:02:24.000 I'm not saying that everybody in the Masonic Lodges was a spy.

03:02:26.000 I'm not saying that everybody who was a spy is a Freemason.

03:02:30.000 But throughout the British Empire, this vast network of lodges throughout the world, which is even mentioned in countless movies.

03:02:37.000 Go watch Ma O'Kaine. 0.99

03:02:38.000 There's Ma O'Kaine in The Man Who Would Be King.

03:02:41.000 And Sean Connery.

03:02:43.000 Sean Connery plays a reincarnated Alexander the Great who, with his conman buddy Michael Caine, uses Freemasonic mythology to dupe A very third-world tribe, we could say, into believing that he's a messiah.

03:02:59.000 And the whole movie is basically about Freemasonry and religious mythology being a con and a deception.

03:03:06.000 That's just one example that I'm giving, but you can see from the movie that they kind of functioned as, you could say, spies, Freemasonic spies, so to speak.

03:03:14.000 Now, I'm not spending this whole talk on Freemasonry.

03:03:16.000 I just want to give a few examples of how it relates to where we're getting with the confrontation between East and West.

03:03:21.000 And it's not ultimately about Freemasonry.

03:03:23.000 It does play a role, though, in this history.

03:03:26.000 When we come back, we'll get into more of that and explain the Putin-Tucker interview.

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03:04:36.000 We're talking about the big meta-level history breakdown, similar to what Putin did in the interview with Tucker, giving the meta-perspective, the big God's eye perspective, as best we can.

03:04:48.000 And we're talking about this hermetic lineage as contrasted to the Christian teaching, the theology of the church as it Went through these centuries and how this is a big part of what's going on in the confrontation between East and West and the Ukraine war.

03:05:07.000 And a lot of people don't know that the Masonic Lodges, for example, that first popped up the Grand Lodge.

03:05:14.000 I mean, there were Masonic Lodges prior to the Grand Lodge of England, but the lodges throughout the British Empire, even in mainline history, functioned as Jessica Harlan Jacobs as a historian.

03:05:27.000 She's not a conspiracy theorist.

03:05:28.000 This is just mainline history.

03:05:30.000 She talks about how these were essentially the intelligence networks of the British Empire.

03:05:35.000 Part and parcel with intelligence networks comes the cultists, the secrets that are trafficked, including religious ideas, religious secrets, gnosis and so forth.

03:05:47.000 And I mentioned Byzantium in terms of more Cambridge academic scholarship.

03:05:52.000 There's a recent book that came out.

03:05:54.000 It's a very technical, very difficult book.

03:05:56.000 Called Radical Platonism in Byzantium by Niketas Sinisioglou.

03:06:02.000 The reason this book is relevant is because the whole thesis of the book is that even though the Byzantine Empire had within it the struggle between Neoplatonism and Christianity, Orthodox Christianity, and it tried to suppress the Neoplatonic atheistic Neoplatonism, atheistic Platonism.

03:06:21.000 This lineage, this ideological tradition, survived through the character of Plethon.

03:06:26.000 Plethon was a Byzantine scholar, academic, and an atheistic Platonist.

03:06:31.000 His atheistic Platonism, according to Synysioglou, is what was handed over to the Spinoza circles, and then by extension, eventually, as it found its way into the Jacobin Illuminist circles.

03:06:46.000 So, this is yet another historical attestation to the fact that The Secret Society mysteries, the myths, the symbols, the codes, the hidden keys and all this is really just a mechanism by which people are duped and people can be controlled by more cunning people in typically the state, especially throughout this period.

03:07:07.000 And I think that stays.

03:07:09.000 The norm all the way up until today.

03:07:11.000 I mean, although today is more of a corporate state, it's not really, you know, the empire or some king that's controlling us and duping us.

03:07:19.000 It's more so CEOs and Bilderberg and, you know, Davos.

03:07:23.000 These are the people who are the new kings of our day.

03:07:26.000 But they're utilizing a lot of these same tricks, tactics and techniques.

03:07:30.000 And in regard to the mysteries and the secret society techniques that are used, these become ways by which Intelligence agents can provocateur and that's essentially what we see the Masonic lodges in Russia and throughout Europe doing during these revolutionary periods and we've talked a lot about that famous history text.

03:07:53.000 The Fire in the Minds of Men, which talks about how the Lodges took this hermetic ideology 0.79

03:07:59.000 and heritage of revolution, of pure flux and chaos, and even atheistic Platonism to its

03:08:07.000 full conclusions by initiating the Bolshevik Revolution.

03:08:13.000 And again, this is not conspiracy theory.

03:08:15.000 This is well documented now in a lot of academic philosophical texts.

03:08:20.000 Hegel and the Hermetic Tradition, Hegelianism, which is central to the history of Marxism.

03:08:27.000 You couldn't have Marxism without Hegel, because Marx turns Hegel on his head and uses that dialectical chaos philosophy to produce the synthesis.

03:08:36.000 And that's ultimately the philosophy of the revolutionaries, the Trotskys, the Lenins, these characters, is that constant perpetual chaos is what produces the synthesis where they want to take things.

03:08:48.000 And again, this even comes up in books like Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma.

03:08:51.000 There's a whole chapter on what he says true Christianity is.

03:08:56.000 And it's the Prince of Mercy or the Scottish Trinitarian where he explains that for the Freemason at that level, God is an eternal world emanator.

03:09:06.000 He's just repeating the Neoplatonic philosophy of Plethon and the Hermeticists.

03:09:12.000 And this is exactly, by the way, what the British Empire adopted as its Hermetic philosophy.

03:09:17.000 There's books that have come out recently.

03:09:22.000 Now, what does all this have to do with Russia and geopolitics and whatnot?

03:09:30.000 Well, it has to do with the fact that Russia, up into the 20th century, still maintained a degree of the notion of a Christian society, an Orthodox Christian imperium.

03:09:42.000 It had been waning for sure, and there had been a lot of corrupt leaders and a lot of things going on that were bad.

03:09:48.000 Uh, you know, people like Peter the Great.

03:09:51.000 I think he was not that great of a leader.

03:09:53.000 But regardless, there is this desire to establish the revolutionary faith throughout the world.

03:09:53.000 I think he was corrupt.

03:10:03.000 And that's why In the Billington book it's called the Revolutionary Faith.

03:10:07.000 The Revolutionary Faith is the same faith that's mentioned by Aldous Huxley in his book Brave New World.

03:10:14.000 The final revolution is the revolution against man.

03:10:16.000 So anything that stands in the way has to be gotten rid of.

03:10:20.000 Quigley explains this in the first few hundred pages where he says that the two chief enemies of the Western Anglo-American Pragmatic Empire, doesn't have anything to do with British people per se.

03:10:33.000 It's not talking about the people.

03:10:34.000 It's talking about the geopolitical structure of the Atlantis, this power block.

03:10:38.000 And that's not about Atlantis.

03:10:40.000 Okay, we're not talking about sunken islands.

03:10:42.000 We're talking about this area geopolitically.

03:10:48.000 The West versus the East. 0.94

03:10:50.000 And that's why Brzezinski, people like, you know, Kissinger, have talked about how in order to control the world, you control the Eurasian heartland.

03:11:00.000 That's the key to controlling the world.

03:11:01.000 That is the Alfred Mackinder thesis, right?

03:11:04.000 The geopolitical pivot of history is controlling the Eurasian heartland.

03:11:11.000 That's the old British imperial structure and model.

03:11:14.000 So, what does that mean?

03:11:15.000 That means areas like Ukraine, areas like the borders of Russia are crucial to control for having global hegemony. 0.88

03:11:25.000 And the philosophies and the worldviews play a key role in this.

03:11:28.000 It's called Weltanschauungskrieg, worldview warfare.

03:11:32.000 Will we have a worldview based on Western empiricist pragmatic ideas or what Putin talked about when he was talking to Tucker, eternal ideas.

03:11:44.000 He brought up Dostoevsky.

03:11:46.000 He brought up the idea of eternal truths.

03:11:50.000 In fact, Putin's, one of his influences is Ivan Ilyin.

03:11:54.000 He's a Russian thinker and philosopher who's not very well known in the West, but if you read some of his essays that are translated by one of my friends, Mark Hackard, over at Espionage History Archive, or Soul of the East, I don't know if Soul of the East still exists, but Mark has translated a lot of his essays and works, and Ivan Ilyin is a very Dostoevsky-influenced thinker.

03:12:18.000 He's also written about on how there's a lot of platonic influences in Dostoyevsky, right?

03:12:23.000 And so I know I was critiquing atheistic Platonism earlier.

03:12:26.000 There's different versions of this.

03:12:27.000 I'm not trying to equate these things, but Putin was definitely expressing the idea that versus the Western idea of everything being in flux, which is essentially the revolutionary philosophy going back to the pre-Socratics, which is restated by people like Lenin and Trotsky.

03:12:46.000 You have the idea that he outlines, which is that there are objective eternal truths.

03:12:51.000 There's natures.

03:12:53.000 People have natures.

03:12:54.000 You can't turn people's natures into some other nature.

03:12:57.000 You can't turn a woman into a man, a man into a woman. 0.98

03:13:00.000 There are families, and families are like many nations, right?

03:13:03.000 And so there's a connection between the family as a people group and the nation as a larger extension of that people group.

03:13:09.000 And that's just the way all human beings have thought for thousands of years.

03:13:13.000 The revolutionary philosophy at its very core that we're talking about, which was, it's not identical to all of the Lodges, and I think everybody is a Freemason, but I'm saying that the philosophy in the revolutionary Lodges was used to bring about the revolutions to where we are now, and the last two remaining empires Quigley talks about, the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire.

03:13:33.000 He says those two things need to go away for the Hope of the Tragedy and Hope to come about.

03:13:41.000 What's the hope of the book Tragedy and Hope?

03:13:43.000 Western Democratic Capitalism.

03:13:47.000 Now you might think, well, what's wrong with that?

03:13:48.000 That sounds like a good thing.

03:13:49.000 No, it's not what you think.

03:13:50.000 It means technocratic corporate control.

03:13:54.000 When you read Tragedy and Hope, the middle chapter is one of the most important chapters because it's the chapter where he says that the world I'm talking about will be an AI-run, technocratic, smart city, You know, fake nightmare dystopia.

03:14:09.000 He thinks it's a good thing.

03:14:11.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

03:14:12.000 I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis.

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03:14:14.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show!

03:14:15.000 I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jason Alicis.

03:14:17.000 We're breaking down the real spiritual battle that has manifested East and West.

03:14:24.000 That's one of the areas that I disagree with Putin in the discussion that he had with Tucker.

03:14:29.000 But we can actually see this playing out ideologically when I talked about worldview warfare.

03:14:33.000 Quigley says that the two main enemies to the Atlantis' empire of the West had to be destroyed.

03:14:39.000 That would be the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire.

03:14:43.000 The first two world wars of the last century, Quigley says, had the effect of successfully dissipating and exhausting the Austro-Hungarian Empire and destroying that potential threat out of Europe.

03:14:58.000 Then he says that the next threat would be Russia and the Russian Empire and the exportation of Bolshevism, Communism, Sovietism also, I think, in the long run had the effect of basically wearing down and destroying Russia from within.

03:15:13.000 In the 1990s, you had the Harvard crew, Larry Summers and other people from that university concocting and

03:15:20.000 figuring out basically how to loot Russia throughout the 1990s. 0.51

03:15:23.000 This was the role in part that Yeltsin played as an asset of

03:15:27.000 the CIA to help loot and bring down Russia. 0.77

03:15:30.000 Because remember Brzezinski said that Russia has to be kept down as well as other countries to ensure American

03:15:38.000 dominance.

03:15:39.000 That's before, however, they wanted, I think, to shift over into Decline intentional decline.

03:15:46.000 I think the global elite even in the West have made the decision that it's time now to bring America down and to Make globalist institutions have the power that America has had in terms of its dominance and so that also occupied a lot of that conversation was multipolarity and the place of Russia and China in the coming world and And Putin talking about the inability of the fiat money system to actually work, the dollar dying.

03:16:14.000 I think that's what he was referring to.

03:16:16.000 But he also talked about a lot of operations that we over here at Infowars, myself, many of us have talked about in the last 10, 15 years, talking about how the West, the CIA, these operations they were running, what they were doing in the Maidan coup to spark that off, the false flag events, the Nord Stream pipeline, all of that.

03:16:37.000 Done basically by the intelligence operations concocted in the West.

03:16:43.000 Whether or not we know exactly which outfit did the operation itself is really not the issue, but because we know who stands to gain.

03:16:52.000 Kibona, right?

03:16:52.000 And Putin also brought that up.

03:16:54.000 So basically every one of the pieces of data that came forward in that interview is identical to all of the analysis and the Predictions that Alex myself and others have given in the last ten years about East versus West relations.

03:17:10.000 In fact, I did a whole three hour lecture on my YouTube channel about eight months ago where I said all of this broke it all down.

03:17:17.000 I talked about all the provocations of the CIA engaged in State Department pussy riot splitting the Orthodox Church in Ukraine.

03:17:25.000 All of that was basically brought forward in this amazing interview.

03:17:30.000 And That specific splitting of the church is exactly what I want to highlight now, because this is a key element that a lot of people don't understand in the West.

03:17:41.000 In the West, we don't really have religion as a cohesive idea anymore, in terms of an actual expression.

03:17:47.000 There's a loose idea that we're either Protestant or Catholic in the West.

03:17:51.000 But there's no real civic function of the religion.

03:17:55.000 The religion doesn't spill over any longer into the civic sphere because we bought into the idea of a secular society and the religion is something that's private and it doesn't really relate to anything else.

03:18:05.000 And that's precisely why we will eventually collapse and die.

03:18:09.000 Now, I think Islam is a terrible religion. 1.00

03:18:12.000 I've debated all the top Muslims except for one out there that are known, that are famous, that are public.

03:18:17.000 I go against it all the time, but it has the Focus in the impetus to take over in Europe and perhaps even in America in the near future because human beings cannot subsist and will not last very long in a completely secular atheist society.

03:18:34.000 They will bend to whatever is the dominant masculine force. 0.99

03:18:39.000 And Islam, although I think it's a horrible false religion, has that impetus still within it. 1.00

03:18:44.000 So, it will take over Europe, and that's by design. 0.94

03:18:47.000 The Fabian Socialists talked about, in the 1910s, 20s, and 30s, bringing in Islam, first to London, and then to the UK, and then into Europe, because they thought it could be a force for socialism.

03:19:00.000 They were too full of hubris, I think, to realize that, no, no, you're not going to control this religion, this religion will take over. 0.95

03:19:07.000 You might Get a few generations of degenerate children of Muslims, but eventually Islam will take over Europe, and that's by design. 1.00

03:19:16.000 And it's not because the global leader Muslims are not Muslims.

03:19:18.000 They don't.

03:19:18.000 It's a chess piece, right?

03:19:20.000 It's an ideological chess piece.

03:19:22.000 So chess pieces are not just nation states, not just this nation Ukraine.

03:19:26.000 Let's use them.

03:19:27.000 It's ideology and religion as well.

03:19:30.000 And that came up in the debate, or excuse me, in the interview with Putin as well between Tucker and Putin.

03:19:35.000 But I'm saying all this because you understand that From the vantage point of the Western evil geopolitical elite, Russia has to be destroyed and taken down because even though that was a big part of the Cold War, containing it, bringing it down, looting it, the Russian people and the Russian soul that Putin talked about are very tough, they're very resilient, and they're very hard to bring down.

03:20:05.000 That's why so many of these Western neoliberal toxic culture operations have to be exported, as well as potentially all the bioweapons labs.

03:20:14.000 By the way, that was actually reported on years ago.

03:20:18.000 Dilyana Galatseva, I think is her name.

03:20:22.000 I was at a lecture event with her.

03:20:25.000 She gave a presentation in 2017 or so on the Pentagon biolabs all over Ukraine.

03:20:32.000 Uh, uh, and, and Eastern Europe and other places.

03:20:35.000 So this has been known for a long time, uh, and, and the provocations then were intentional.

03:20:41.000 Putting the bio-webs there, uh, the, the seven years, uh, of warfare via NATO against Russia that has sparked this conflict.

03:20:50.000 The 2014, uh, coup operation again, uh, uh, done by the West.

03:20:54.000 All the color revolutions that were funded by, uh, Soros entities, CIA stuff.

03:20:58.000 That was all in the interview.

03:21:02.000 They didn't mention everybody by name like Soros, but when he's talking about the CIA operations to do these things in Ukraine, the Orange Revolution, that was all Soros and CIA back in the 90s.

03:21:12.000 Victoria Nuland putting all this money there, that's Soros and CIA, that's all the same crew.

03:21:18.000 All of what the CIA did in the Cold War is now done by the National Endowment for Democracy, Soros, you know, founded.

03:21:26.000 All those things are the new ways that the CIA does these things.

03:21:29.000 They don't just do it the way that they used to do it in the Cold War.

03:21:32.000 Those are the new cutouts and fronts that are used.

03:21:35.000 It has nothing to do with democracy or human rights.

03:21:38.000 Those are weapons of culture war, soft power, you see, and even cutouts for black cops at times. 0.85

03:21:46.000 Same operations in Syria.

03:21:48.000 Back in 2012, 13, 14, against Assad, same operations and strategy against Putin, same operations of sniper attacks to try to set off crowd riots, to try to have a coup, and all of that was mentioned.

03:22:02.000 Now, not Assad, but coups against Russia, coups against Putin, that was all brought up in the interview.

03:22:07.000 So, again, everything that we've talked about was brought up, and again, this key spiritual component is there.

03:22:14.000 To split the church in the Ukraine by creating a fake CIA State Department church run by people who aren't even real clerics.

03:22:24.000 People were defrocked from other churches.

03:22:27.000 That's the actual history of what's going on in the Ukraine and it's fostered and funded by funded by Western NGOs.

03:22:34.000 Western universities, Jesuit universities, they all play a key role in that because the Jesuits, the CIA, they basically joined at the hip at the time of Vatican II.

03:22:43.000 There's a gigantic 800-page book, Time Life Magazine, Henry Luce and the American Proposition, where the CIA created the doctrinal warfare program, C.D.

03:22:52.000 That's to utilize these churches during the Cold War for the purpose of pushing Americanism and Americans off power. 0.57

03:22:52.000 Jackson. 0.57

03:23:00.000 But what that does is now places you under a new master.

03:23:03.000 And that's why Francis and all these churches that the Pope Francis Catholic Church, that's why they walk in lockstep now with Davos, Klaus, and the World Economic Forum, because they're all part of the same power.

03:23:15.000 That's the Atlantis's power structure.

03:23:17.000 It's all these entities.

03:23:19.000 And they are concerned with Russia as a potential rising threat, as well as perhaps China as well.

03:23:26.000 And that doesn't make those people angels and good guys.

03:23:30.000 It just is the reality of geopolitics.

03:23:33.000 But there is this spiritual component there, which is the battle of evil versus good.

03:23:40.000 So although people in the state, people who are leaders, presidents, kings, whatever, they may view all of this as pure pragmatic politics.

03:23:51.000 Like if you read the book Dune, right?

03:23:54.000 A lot of the people in Dune, they view it as just pragmatic politics, but there's actual prophecies, right, about The true leader and the Savior and all that, the Messiah.

03:24:04.000 And likewise, in terms of Christianity, we have a Messiah and we have a providential spiritual meaning of history.

03:24:12.000 And that providential spiritual meaning of history involves the church as a key player.

03:24:16.000 And of course, we know that Satan has the desire to destroy the church.

03:24:20.000 That's a key element I want to highlight.

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03:24:53.000 They never talked about what happened in World War II until after they died.

03:24:55.000 We got to dig into their stuff and see it.

03:24:58.000 And my mom's dad was only on a few missions.

03:25:00.000 Thank God he already got killed as a fighter pilot in World War II.

03:25:03.000 And crash landed and broke a bunch of bones and he was out of the war.

03:25:07.000 The other one did more missions than he was told to do.

03:25:11.000 Out of North Africa and then in Italy and the whole thing. 0.91

03:25:13.000 And then was there for four years and in Germany when it fell.

03:25:18.000 He told my dad a little bit about when he died.

03:25:20.000 We got all his documents and all his medals and all his stuff.

03:25:23.000 And man, the letters about, we see the flag.

03:25:26.000 We're going into it.

03:25:27.000 Those are the targets.

03:25:28.000 We're going to hit it.

03:25:30.000 You know, Billy, best buddy, just died.

03:25:32.000 His plane just blew up.

03:25:33.000 And man, there is something about that.

03:25:36.000 Like, we're going in.

03:25:37.000 We're not running away from the attacks.

03:25:39.000 We're flying into the attack.

03:25:42.000 Because we got something to deliver and God said, deliver it.

03:25:46.000 And I'm going to deliver more payloads.

03:25:50.000 The reason I volunteered for more missions is we have slayed the enemy.

03:25:54.000 We have destroyed them.

03:25:55.000 We have wrecked them.

03:25:57.000 God has given me nothing but victory.

03:26:00.000 And the idea now, when I've been given nothing but victory, that I won't continue the missions and I won't continue hammering them, but I can't do it without you.

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03:26:56.000 But I'm really talking to the 99% of you, and it's way more than that now.

03:27:00.000 That hear this show and never buy a damn thing.

03:27:03.000 We're in the fight, folks.

03:27:04.000 And I'll get in the damn airplane, and I'll start the engines, and I'll take off, and I'll fly over the enemy, and I'll drop the truth on their ass all day.

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03:27:45.000 I get tortured, I get attacked, I get lied about, I get physically attacked, people come to my house, I don't even get into that, what that's like for my family, but as long as I don't care, and as long as I got courage and trust in God, like Job did, we have, for every attack, for every little slap I get, is a dagger in the enemy.

03:28:03.000 For every time they thump me in the face, Is a fist right in their nose.

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