Alex Jones Show - February 14, 2024


20240214_Wed_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 45 minutes

Words per Minute

177.17386

Word Count

39,997

Sentence Count

2,890

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

50


Summary

Dr. Brett Weinstein joins Alex and I for an in-depth interview on the eve of Super Bowl LIV, where we talk about the collapse of Western civilization and what we can do to save it. Dr. Weinstein is a professor at the University of Colorado and former professor at Evergreen University, where he was one of the first to speak out against racism and white privilege. He is also the founder of the Darkhorse Podcast, Darkhorse, and Darkhorse Rumble.


Transcript

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00:00:15.000 What we want is a system that liberates individuals as meaningfully and as broadly as possible.
00:00:22.000 That should be our guide.
00:00:24.000 That's classically liberal!
00:00:25.000 It is classically liberal and I believe it is also actually liberal and it is a perfect match for what I find my many conservative friends believe as well.
00:00:34.000 That this is the metric that we can use to test any system that we put in place.
00:00:39.000 Does it liberate people or does it constrain them?
00:00:41.000 If it liberates them meaningfully over the long term, It's a good thing.
00:00:47.000 What they have recognized is that they have no use for us, and I wish that was an exaggeration, but you can see this so clearly in what they did to the public over COVID.
00:01:01.000 I don't think we really have any choice but to rescue Western civilization.
00:01:04.000 It is the best tool we've got, always has been.
00:01:07.000 It's not to say that it can't use upgrading here and there, but We have to save it because your children, my children, and all of the grandchildren that we might ultimately have are depending on us to do it.
00:01:20.000 And the idea of hyper-novelty is that although human beings are the fastest evolving animal species that has ever existed, and that is largely the result of the fact that we evolve in a different way, we are actually able to evolve culturally, which is much more rapid than genetic evolution.
00:01:37.000 But even though we are the fastest evolving animal species that has existed, The rate of technological change is so fast that even our evolutionary capacity... We can't catch up.
00:01:48.000 We cannot keep up, and that is resulting in us being sick, physically, psychologically, socially, and what you're detecting as the collapse of civilization is really a manifestation of many different kinds of hyper-novelty that is making it difficult for us to see what's in our interest.
00:02:08.000 They are gambling with A planet that isn't theirs to destroy, that is actually, it is the birthright of every living person and it is the entitlement of all the people who will eventually live here.
00:02:20.000 They are gambling with it and they obviously don't know what they're doing.
00:02:24.000 It is likely that many of the deaths that occur as a result of these shots It's the result of the mRNA platform itself.
00:02:35.000 that anything you loaded onto that platform would produce many of these pathologies,
00:02:41.000 because the platform itself is deeply flawed.
00:02:43.000 [Music]
00:02:52.000 Former professor Brett Weinstein is in studio with us for an in-depth interview.
00:02:58.000 We're taping this on Sunday while everybody else is watching the Super Bowl.
00:03:03.000 I'm really excited about this interview.
00:03:04.000 I've been trying to get him on the show for a couple of years.
00:03:07.000 He's a very busy guy.
00:03:08.000 He was just in town for the Joe Rogan number one podcast in the world, which I'm sure will have already aired by the time this interview goes out.
00:03:15.000 But I just want to point out, I love football.
00:03:17.000 It's great.
00:03:18.000 But our society is in so much trouble because of all the bread and circuses that people make their main focus sports and entertainment.
00:03:24.000 That'd be fine if society and civilization wasn't in such a crisis.
00:03:28.000 So I'm honored that he would spend Super Bowl Sunday that's a religion to so many, including my family that's all watching it right now and wondering why I'm not there.
00:03:36.000 Well, it's because this, quite frankly, is way more important.
00:03:40.000 A game comes, a game goes.
00:03:42.000 But this affects the entire future of our species on this planet that has never been in greater crisis in my view.
00:03:50.000 And when I first learned about the doctor and former professor at Evergreen University in 2017, he was standing up against really horrible racism against white people, saying they couldn't be on campus on certain days.
00:04:03.000 I just want to remind folks of where we really started seeing this guy explode out there, and since then he's obviously been everywhere.
00:04:10.000 One of the top guests on Joe Rogan has his own hit podcast as well that everybody should search out.
00:04:16.000 It's the Dark Horse Podcast.
00:04:17.000 We'll put all that on screen for folks, darkhorse.locals.com and also on Rumble.
00:04:23.000 And it's a show that I routinely watch because I do a lot of research, but I I certainly don't know a lot of what's going on in the world.
00:04:30.000 It was a famous Greek philosopher said, I know nothing.
00:04:33.000 Anybody that tells you that they know everything is either a fool or a liar.
00:04:38.000 The more you learn, the more you don't know.
00:04:40.000 But I learned a lot from Dr. Brett Weinstein, and it's great to have him here with us.
00:04:45.000 Now, I've literally got dozens of topics I want to hit.
00:04:48.000 Everybody knows half the time I do an interview, it's me doing half the talking.
00:04:53.000 I really want to give you, doctor, a chance to start wherever you want.
00:04:57.000 to cover the borders. You were just out at the Darien Gap with investigative journalist
00:05:02.000 and war correspondent Michael Yon. You just did an amazing podcast with Tucker Carlson.
00:05:07.000 I watched the whole thing once and then watched the clips again. We played them on the show.
00:05:12.000 You really nailed what's happening. And we were just talking before we started taping.
00:05:16.000 You said, "Listen, we have to save Western civilization."
00:05:19.000 We're in a crisis.
00:05:20.000 We've got to transcend these labels of left and right.
00:05:23.000 I totally agree with you.
00:05:24.000 So we're going to cover the waterfront here today.
00:05:27.000 And I really appreciate you taking the time to make yourself available.
00:05:31.000 So let's start.
00:05:33.000 Well, thanks.
00:05:34.000 I'm really glad to be here and to meet you, finally.
00:05:37.000 I've long been a fan of yours, if a bit cryptically.
00:05:41.000 And in fact, maybe that is a place to start.
00:05:46.000 Many years ago, I guess it would have been something like 2011, I was part of the Occupy Movement.
00:05:53.000 And although the Occupy Movement got ridiculous quickly, And I wish I had realized where it was headed earlier.
00:06:01.000 I was paying attention actually to your coverage of it and something that impressed and surprised me was that as the Occupy movement was being targeted by the federal government, you covered that targeting and you were incensed by it.
00:06:19.000 And I was heartened to see you defending people who obviously ideologically were not closely aligned Uh, with you, and I felt, I felt at the time, and I feel even more strongly now, that you're a patriot, and I really appreciate that you see, uh, all Americans as worth defending.
00:06:40.000 So, thank you for that.
00:06:41.000 Well, thank you, but look, if, if I don't defend everybody, I'm not going to get defended.
00:06:46.000 It was that famous, you know, quote by the pastor in Nazi Germany that he didn't stand up for this group when they came after him, then he'd stand up for that group, and finally, when they came for him, there was nobody left to stand up for him.
00:06:56.000 I exactly agree with this, and I think that really is the team that needs to assemble.
00:07:01.000 All of the patriots who respect the principles on which the U.S.
00:07:04.000 was founded, and indeed the Western civilization is founded, need to put aside ideological differences so that we can fend off what threatens Western civilization.
00:07:15.000 And at the point that we've succeeded in doing that, we can go back to fighting over ideological issues.
00:07:21.000 But for the moment, they're beside the point.
00:07:23.000 Now, I didn't really go into your bio, and most people know who you are and they know a lot about you, but maybe we should just real quick talk about your background, what you've done, your best-selling book, The Hunter-Gatherer's Guide, The 21st Century, and then kind of your political process and what you would call yourself today, and then let's talk about that big attack on Western civilization and then launch into wherever you want to go.
00:07:46.000 You want me to tell people my background?
00:07:46.000 Sure.
00:07:49.000 Just about yourself, yeah.
00:07:50.000 Sure.
00:07:51.000 I'm an evolutionary biologist.
00:07:53.000 I studied bats as part of my dissertation work, but that work led me quickly to the study of biological trade-offs.
00:08:01.000 That is to say, Oftentimes anybody who's managed a system knows that you can't have everything.
00:08:08.000 You have to borrow from one thing in order to accomplish something else.
00:08:11.000 And it turns out that that's the way biology functions too.
00:08:14.000 So anyway, that became my focus and it has an important implication to this day in terms of how I see civilization and other complex systems functioning.
00:08:26.000 I taught for 14 years at the Evergreen State College, which was a very strange place.
00:08:33.000 It was the most liberal college in the country, I believe, by almost any measure.
00:08:38.000 And there was a lot to it that was crazy, but there was also a lot to it that was quite brilliant.
00:08:44.000 The founders of the college had thrown out every single structure that would exist in a normal college or university and replaced it with something else.
00:08:53.000 And half of what they built didn't really work, but half of it actually allowed for professors who were very serious about teaching to innovate entirely new ways of doing that.
00:09:04.000 We had total freedom to teach anything we wanted in any way we wanted.
00:09:08.000 Students took one class at a time, full-time.
00:09:11.000 Professors taught one class at a time, full-time.
00:09:14.000 And that meant that we knew every student, not just by name, but we knew who they were and how they thought.
00:09:20.000 And that allowed us to teach right to each individual, which is a very powerful way of doing it.
00:09:28.000 That strong connection with students is why When I was confronted May 23rd of 2017 by 50 students that I had never met accusing me of racism, I wasn't concerned.
00:09:43.000 There were too many people who knew that that accusation had no reality to it.
00:09:49.000 And so I knew it wasn't going to stick.
00:09:50.000 So that allowed me to stand up to them.
00:09:53.000 And the protesters who came after me made the mistake of proudly filming everything they did.
00:10:00.000 And when they released that footage to the internet, people looked at me being confronted by students who weren't willing to even have a conversation with me and they knew something was wrong in this uh... diversity equity and inclusion
00:10:13.000 movement just interrupt it felt like a malice struggle section
00:10:18.000 i think it it was in every way except that the students who were confronting
00:10:22.000 me i don't think you very much about now but and every other way yes
00:10:27.000 did go in search So, anyway, I was teaching evolutionary biology.
00:10:32.000 The college had hired a new president who was interested in remaking the college according to very different rules.
00:10:41.000 But he had a problem, because at Evergreen, the faculty had the power to stop him.
00:10:48.000 And so he Effectively used racism to eliminate his opponents and I became public enemy number one not because there was anything wrong with my teaching but because I was going to be an obstacle to his plans and that resulted in the dramatic
00:11:10.000 Dialectic means you are using disagreement to discover what is true.
00:11:16.000 I am not interested in debate.
00:11:18.000 I am interested only in dialectic, which does mean I listen to you and you listen to me.
00:11:24.000 You don't care what terms you want to speak on.
00:11:28.000 This is not about you.
00:11:29.000 We are not speaking on terms of white privilege.
00:11:34.000 This is not a discussion.
00:11:36.000 You have lost that one.
00:11:37.000 I am talking about terms that serve the truth.
00:11:40.000 Those are the top five.
00:11:42.000 Can I tell you where it's from?
00:11:44.000 House of Donna Lickner, you said some racist sh*t. Can you apologize?
00:11:48.000 I did not.
00:11:49.000 Do I think that black students in sciences are targeted here?
00:11:52.000 Do I think they're targeted anywhere?
00:11:54.000 [inaudible]
00:11:58.000 Do I think that black students in sciences are targeted here?
00:12:02.000 Do I think they're targeted anywhere?
00:12:04.000 [inaudible]
00:12:07.000 Okay, I do not believe that students of color are targeted in the sciences here.
00:12:12.000 Why?
00:12:13.000 But maybe I misunderstand what you mean by targeted.
00:12:16.000 Targeted by racism.
00:12:17.000 Oh my God.
00:12:18.000 What the f*** is wrong with you?
00:12:20.000 Use your back and go to the police.
00:12:22.000 Wait a second.
00:12:24.000 To me, targeted means something different than what I just heard you define it as.
00:12:30.000 I do not believe that anybody on our faculty with intent specially targets people of color.
00:12:37.000 That's exactly what you got to say!
00:12:41.000 I didn't hear you at the beginning.
00:12:49.000 Your protest of Day of Absence, you're prepping to take it as a protest, if you will?
00:12:54.000 That's what you said in your email?
00:12:58.000 May I answer that question?
00:13:00.000 Wait a second, first of all, first of all, Day of Absence has been here longer than I have.
00:13:08.000 I have never protested it until the idea No
00:13:22.000 So this sounds like almost like also like a French Revolution
00:13:30.000 Purge going on that once they killed the royalty and the rest of it, then it was just inner factions battling for
00:13:36.000 control [BLANK_AUDIO]
00:13:39.000 Yes, all of these things have historical echoes.
00:13:43.000 There were elements of what happened at Evergreen that were new, but of course most of it was just a refresh of historical chapters.
00:13:52.000 And, you know, it was about something else.
00:13:55.000 Race became an excuse for a battle that was desired by powerful forces that weren't interested in sharing their plan with the faculty, students, or anybody else.
00:14:07.000 It seemed like Evergreen wetted the mouth too, or the taste buds, because then it seemed to be like the bellwether and then it spread across academia everywhere and was defended by the media.
00:14:17.000 Now here we are, six, seven years later, now everybody who's got to have a brain, the vast majority say, no, academia, major colleges have turned into nut houses.
00:14:27.000 Well, the fact is they were.
00:14:30.000 They were already, and indeed that wasn't new either.
00:14:34.000 When Heather, my wife, also a biologist, also actually she was Evergreen's most popular professor, but when we were in college ourselves, we faced the first iteration of what would later go on to be called diversity, equity, and inclusion.
00:14:50.000 At the time it was political correctness.
00:14:52.000 And it had taken over anthropology.
00:14:55.000 And when Heather and I took an anthropology course, we found an evolutionary perspective unwelcome.
00:15:02.000 And so we fought back against that.
00:15:04.000 I actually failed the course because the professor was not interested in having any pushback.
00:15:10.000 But in any case, this has been going on for decades.
00:15:13.000 And it finally completely took over the universities and has left them In a state that's actually totally upside down.
00:15:22.000 I mean, it used to be that universities made students smarter.
00:15:26.000 Now they're actually making them fools.
00:15:29.000 They're teaching them things that just simply aren't true and enforcing their acceptance of those things.
00:15:36.000 Like trying to make biologists tell their class that two men can have a baby?
00:15:41.000 Precisely.
00:15:42.000 I mean, this is just so biologically nonsensical that you would imagine every university in the country would have a group of biologists saying, I don't know how you reached that conclusion, but it just isn't right.
00:15:52.000 And yet, one struggles to find any university in which anybody is standing up against such claims.
00:15:58.000 And that's really because the ones who would stand up have been forced out.
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00:17:01.000 Wow, so thanks for spending some time on that.
00:17:04.000 There's so many places to segue, so many places.
00:17:07.000 Walk us through then in the present world and how you would describe just in a larger,
00:17:14.000 just stalled, the world today, and why you're so concerned about,
00:17:18.000 really, the collapse of civilization.
00:17:20.000 Sure.
00:17:22.000 There's a feature of complex systems that I think people don't really appreciate.
00:17:28.000 There are many systems that are incredibly powerful, like Western civilization, but they are also in their own way fragile.
00:17:37.000 The fact is, certain conditions have to be present in order for Western civilization to function.
00:17:42.000 The consent of the governed being key among them.
00:17:45.000 We have to be able to throw people out when they don't do the job correctly.
00:17:49.000 And to the extent that That control of the citizenry over governance is considered threatening by people who wish to use governance for their own objectives.
00:18:01.000 They subvert democracy and they leave us with something in which, yes, elections take place, but our ability to control in which direction policy moves is ever less obvious.
00:18:15.000 So that's where we are.
00:18:16.000 We've got a system with no rudder or if there is a rudder it's under the control of something that we can't see headed in some direction we don't know.
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00:18:51.000 The insanity that's been incubating or chastening inside of the colleges and funded by the big corporations, I guess is a mode of control, has spilt out.
00:19:02.000 The FAA is going to try to put schizophrenics flying jumbo jets and they're literally going to hire mentally handicapped people.
00:19:09.000 When I first saw that news a few months ago, I didn't believe it.
00:19:12.000 I went and looked it up.
00:19:13.000 Now they have What do you think are some of the key points that we need to remember as we embark on this challenge going forward?
00:19:20.000 make everybody uncomfortable but we're not gonna go for who the best pilots are
00:19:24.000 and you're watching this just thinking I don't care if they're black or white or
00:19:28.000 older young or gay or straight or male or female but you better damn well pass
00:19:32.000 the highest test scores.
00:19:33.000 What do you think are some of the key points that we need to remember as we embark on this challenge going forward?
00:19:40.000 Your whole program is very heavily male dominated. It just is.
00:19:45.000 And really it is white male dominated.
00:19:47.000 I mean, let's just say what it is.
00:19:49.000 And so let's be willing.
00:19:51.000 That is today what it is.
00:19:54.000 And then let's talk about what could the future look like if you really had this program that was representative of the whole country, right, of the whole world.
00:20:06.000 And sometimes those are challenging or difficult, or I would say people get a little bit uncomfortable
00:20:12.000 talking about that and like, hey, we're not gonna make change
00:20:18.000 unless we get a little bit uncomfortable.
00:20:20.000 And let's be uncomfortable together and let's do the right things
00:20:24.000 and support each other moving forward.
00:20:26.000 This is insane.
00:20:27.000 Well, when I was driven out of Evergreen in the early days after that,
00:20:33.000 I was asked to speak in numerous places about the free speech crisis on college campuses.
00:20:39.000 And at some point, I ended up testifying to Congress on this, and I told them the same thing I had said each other time I'd been asked, which is, it's not a free speech crisis, and it's not about college campuses.
00:20:51.000 That's simply the first place you're seeing it.
00:20:54.000 This is somehow an attack on Western civilization and the wrong-headed ideas that are alarming when you see them in a classroom become dangerous when they migrate out into civilization and they take over engineering firms, they take over literally everything because almost all of the important jobs in civilization are done by people who passed through these colleges and were ideologically captured as they went through.
00:21:25.000 There is no question That those wrong-headed ideas are going to destroy everything that functions if we don't get our wits about us quickly.
00:21:35.000 And even then...
00:21:38.000 Even then, you're talking about a problem that is going to take a couple of generations to correct.
00:21:43.000 Even if we started doing everything right today, we have to clear the people who are so confused about the way mathematics and biology work, and we have to put people in important positions who know what's going on.
00:21:57.000 But given the complete collapse of the university system, there isn't an obvious source for those clear-headed people.
00:22:05.000 And Doctor, that's one kind of level I'd say down at the grassroots, 1,000-foot level, 500-foot level, 100-foot level.
00:22:13.000 But I saw you on Tucker Carlson's podcast, I think he went further, I've never seen you, saying, no, this is very dark, this is very planned.
00:22:20.000 If you go up to the million-foot level and look down, And you listen to Klaus Schwab and the globalists, they say, we're building a post-industrial world.
00:22:29.000 We have to have an angrier world to blow it up.
00:22:31.000 And we're going to do this for depopulation.
00:22:33.000 And then somehow they're going to try to like secret away the knowledge in some Alexandrian vault and then roll it out later.
00:22:44.000 And I'm a lay historian, just a common sense guy that researches and I've talked to a lot
00:22:48.000 of other experts in every field, military, finance, you name it.
00:22:54.000 They say no.
00:22:55.000 If they keep cutting off fertilizer and food and if they continue to be stabilizing Western
00:22:59.000 countries and collapse those, the war games go from horrible to Armageddon into the world.
00:23:04.000 So I mean we're talking about cataclysms and then you've got all these big billionaires
00:23:09.000 like Zuckerberg and others building huge underground bunkers and then all the locals built it and
00:23:16.000 hate them and say as soon as things go to hell, and I'm literally in Hawaii.
00:23:20.000 and ran into the main contractor and then the workers and all of them saying we're going to
00:23:24.000 go get that son of a bitch. And they're telling me this and I'm like, you know, I'm a, can I say
00:23:28.000 that? Well, don't say our names. And I'm just sitting there watching them building this Bastille
00:23:34.000 that's about to be raided in a new French revolution. And these globalists think everything
00:23:39.000 stolen all the wealth, consolidated power created a oligarchical fascist, you know, system with their
00:23:46.000 computers and their flash trading and you know, this vertical integration and they're going to
00:23:50.000 use some leftist ideology, try to control people when what they're doing is just scientific.
00:23:57.000 Insanity, scientific consolidation for the consolidation, and then they think their plan of imploding civilization, that somehow they're not going to have blowback from that?
00:24:08.000 They are going, and again, they thought they could do all this and never be the target.
00:24:13.000 They thought we would all kill each other, but now that we've identified the globalists, and most thinking people now know about them, and there's a huge mass accelerated awakening happening that no one can deny, they should know your plan would never have worked before.
00:24:27.000 One chance out of a thousand in my view.
00:24:29.000 Now there's no way it works, but as you said, if we tried to put the brakes on this and the globalists and the elites suddenly realized how insane they were, it'll take generations to turn it around.
00:24:40.000 They've already set in motion a countdown to doomsday.
00:24:44.000 I mean, I don't, I've got four children.
00:24:46.000 I want to fix this, but I am mightily freaked out.
00:24:50.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:24:51.000 My impression is that they are clever enough to wreck the systems that work, and they are far from clever enough to rebuild something in their wake.
00:25:01.000 So yeah, I think they are heading us for disaster.
00:25:06.000 And that they are going to discover how much hubris has been driving them when it's too late for them.
00:25:13.000 But I don't think we really have any choice but to rescue Western civilization.
00:25:17.000 It is the best tool we've got, always has been.
00:25:20.000 It's not to say that it can't use upgrading here and there, but we have to save it because your children, my children, and all of the grandchildren that we might ultimately have are depending on us to do it.
00:25:33.000 The way you just took my three-minute rant and crystallized it in 30 seconds, that's why I'm a fan.
00:25:44.000 The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us.
00:25:48.000 But if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of, is it pro-human or is it anti-human, we start to win.
00:25:55.000 And that's why I had the idea for Team Humanity.
00:25:58.000 I brought it up to Elon Musk.
00:25:59.000 He loved the idea.
00:26:00.000 What would you call the debates and discussions about a pro-human future?
00:26:03.000 Just Team Humanity?
00:26:04.000 Yeah, Team Humanity.
00:26:05.000 Absolutely.
00:26:06.000 And so we have the t-shirt.
00:26:07.000 Team Humanity with a nuclear family standing against the globalists.
00:26:11.000 This shirt is a great conversation starter, but it also is a fundraiser to keep InfoWars on the air so we can promote and support Team Humanity.
00:26:19.000 I want to thank you all for your past support, but I want to encourage you all now to understand that this is a revolution against the globalists, and it is so critical now to signal the fact that you are part of Team Humanity.
00:26:31.000 We're told humans are the problem.
00:26:32.000 We're told we're killing the Earth.
00:26:33.000 We're told all this garbage, so we hate ourselves and stand down and roll over and die.
00:26:38.000 We're not going to do that.
00:26:39.000 Get your Team Humanity shirts now at mfulworestore.com, and I thank you all for your support.
00:26:44.000 In fact, I'm going to shut up now.
00:26:46.000 Where do you want to go?
00:26:46.000 So let's just go.
00:26:47.000 Darien Gap, The Collapse of the Borders, The Great Microcosm, The Wars, Tucker Carlson and Putin.
00:26:52.000 I mean, there's just, go wherever you want, Doctor.
00:26:54.000 Well, let's cover something you asked up front, which is how do I see myself politically?
00:27:01.000 Because I think this is going to be an important potential sticking point for your audience, and it shouldn't be.
00:27:07.000 So, let's say the worst part up front, which is that I regard myself not just as a liberal, but as a radical.
00:27:13.000 Now, I describe myself as a reluctant radical because I've studied complex systems and I know that any attempt to improve things invites the danger of unintended consequences.
00:27:24.000 This is the problem for liberal thought, is that when you try to fix things, you create phenomena you don't see coming.
00:27:31.000 So I'm aware of that and I would not be enthusiastic about changing a system that works if I didn't think that we had to do it.
00:27:39.000 That the system that we have built is not capable of managing the scale of the processes that we are utilizing today.
00:27:47.000 So we have no choice but to change.
00:27:49.000 But we should be very careful about the unintended consequences.
00:27:52.000 We should go in with our eyes open and we should monitor the consequences of what we're doing so that we know when we're making an error and we can stop as quickly as possible.
00:28:01.000 It's not that I want to fix the prior system.
00:28:02.000 to change the previous system and fix problems, but this new Klaus Schwab fix is not the fix,
00:28:10.000 it's death.
00:28:11.000 It's death.
00:28:12.000 It is death.
00:28:13.000 And it's not that I want to fix the prior system.
00:28:15.000 Frankly, I think the prior system was pretty amazing and that what I ideally would like
00:28:21.000 is for that system to go through a process of upgrading slightly so that we could detect
00:28:28.000 the consequences of what we're changing.
00:28:30.000 I just think at this point, civilization has technologically changed.
00:28:35.000 to an extent that many of our governance principles are inadequate for dealing with the risks.
00:28:42.000 And you know, you can see this in the COVID crisis, for example.
00:28:47.000 The biology involved in understanding the risks of the mRNA shots, for example, is pretty deep and protecting Informed consent.
00:28:59.000 Informed consent, in fact, needs to be, in some sense, upgraded and enhanced because of the types of risks involved in a novel technology like that.
00:29:10.000 So, in any case, I'm not enthusiastic about changing civilization.
00:29:13.000 I'm a huge fan of what we had going, but technology is going to force our hand and we need to be careful.
00:29:19.000 I understand that.
00:29:20.000 You're not trying to fix problems with the old system.
00:29:22.000 You're saying it's colliding with all these great new changes in automation, robotics, and super computing, and quantum computing, and all the rest of it.
00:29:29.000 So, we have to be honest.
00:29:31.000 And instead, Klaus Schwab and those guys literally go, it's magic!
00:29:35.000 Once the AI is in control, we'll fix it, but we've got to bulldoze everything that was already there, because we're going to imagine this big beautiful palace we're going to build, and then it's creating a perfect storm, like a black hole of destruction.
00:29:47.000 Yes, and I would say the way to think of the problem is to separate the values from the structures and mechanisms that bring them about.
00:29:57.000 And this is a place where I believe that there is no distinction between properly thinking liberals and properly thinking conservatives.
00:30:06.000 What we want is a system that liberates individuals as meaningfully and as broadly as possible.
00:30:13.000 That should be our guide.
00:30:15.000 That's classically liberal!
00:30:16.000 It is classically liberal and I believe it is also actually liberal and it is a perfect match for what I find my many conservative friends believe as well.
00:30:25.000 That this is the metric that we can use to test any system that we put in place.
00:30:30.000 Does it liberate people or does it constrain them?
00:30:33.000 If it liberates them meaningfully over the long term, it's a good thing.
00:30:37.000 And I do mean meaningfully.
00:30:38.000 I'm not talking about people being liberated to frivolously engage nonsense.
00:30:45.000 I'm talking about people who actually have enough power over their lives that they can pursue meaning or beauty and compassion.
00:30:52.000 All of the best things about you.
00:30:53.000 Human empowerment.
00:30:54.000 Yep, exactly.
00:30:56.000 So just my little thought on this.
00:30:59.000 Only because I've read the writings of the think tanks, the Gates Funds, and the UN, the people that are running it, and Klaus Schwab, the Club of Rome.
00:31:06.000 They just say humans are done.
00:31:08.000 There's too many of them.
00:31:10.000 When you get a bunch of freedom, you become decadent trash.
00:31:12.000 We want to bring feudalism back for whoever we let live, and then we're going to sit up here like Mount Olympus and direct... I mean, it's the Hunger Games, but in the real world.
00:31:22.000 And so that's why they want to destabilize the human system so that we're so...
00:31:27.000 Inept that we've got to have machines come in to basically run our lives as a process of them phasing out the human
00:31:34.000 era As you've all know her already talks about you know the
00:31:37.000 post human world the world's the future is not human And again you look at that. It's it's not working that that
00:31:43.000 plan would never work in my view And it's incredibly risky plus billions of people aren't
00:31:48.000 gonna go along with that's called war. Please welcome you Val Noah Harari
00:31:52.000 *Applause* Covid is critical because this is what convinces people to
00:32:04.000 accept to legitimize total biometric surveillance We want to stop this epidemic.
00:32:12.000 We need not just to monitor people, we need to monitor what's happening under their skin.
00:32:19.000 What we've seen so far is corporations and governments collecting data about where we go, who we meet, what movies we watch.
00:32:28.000 The next phase is the surveillance going under our skin.
00:32:34.000 We're now seeing mass surveillance systems established even in democratic countries, which previously rejected them.
00:32:41.000 And we also see a change in the nature of surveillance.
00:32:46.000 Previously, surveillance was mainly above the skin.
00:32:50.000 Now it's going under the skin.
00:32:53.000 Embedded in his hand is a microchip that serves as his keys, his ID, and his wallet.
00:32:59.000 Governments want to know not just where we go or who we meet.
00:33:03.000 Above all, they want to know what is happening under our skin.
00:33:07.000 What's our body temperature?
00:33:09.000 What's our blood pressure?
00:33:10.000 What is our medical condition?
00:33:12.000 In a matter of seconds, the chip is inserted.
00:33:15.000 Transformation is complete.
00:33:17.000 When scanned, all of a person's information about their vaccination status is shown on a reader or phone.
00:33:23.000 Now humans are developing even bigger powers than ever before.
00:33:29.000 We are really acquiring divine powers of creation and destruction.
00:33:36.000 We are really upgrading humans into gods.
00:33:39.000 We are requiring, for instance, the power to re-engineer life.
00:33:43.000 Humans are now hackable animals.
00:33:53.000 You will own nothing.
00:33:56.000 And you will be happy.
00:34:01.000 I think that fake news have been with us for thousands of years.
00:34:06.000 Just think of the Bible.
00:34:08.000 You know, the whole idea that humans have, you know, they have this soul or spirit and they have free will and nobody knows what's happening inside me.
00:34:17.000 So whatever I choose, whether in the election or whether in the supermarket, this is my free will.
00:34:23.000 That's all.
00:34:24.000 [Explosion]
00:34:26.000 To me, this is the central issue of it all.
00:34:42.000 When you were on Tucker, you explained, you said, listen, there's not words to describe, I'm paraphrasing, how dark this is.
00:34:50.000 The open borders, the devaluation of currencies, the destabilization.
00:34:56.000 When you look at it, there is organization by the administrators, as you said.
00:35:02.000 It's easy to dynamite and destroy things when you're the administrator and have all this BlackRock money, but notice they can't ever actually build anything.
00:35:09.000 So they're sitting there going, look what a great artist I am, smashing things, and then society looks like a Jackson Pollock, but how are they ever going to paint a Rembrandt?
00:35:19.000 They're not.
00:35:21.000 What they have recognized is that they have no use for us.
00:35:26.000 And I wish that was an exaggeration, but you can see this so clearly in what they did to the public over COVID.
00:35:36.000 They were unconcerned about delivering novel, they're not vaccines, but novel so-called vaccines into people who stood no chance for benefiting from them.
00:35:48.000 Healthy young people, there was never an argument that made any sense for delivering those shots to healthy young people.
00:35:54.000 About the best you could say was that you might do that in order to protect vulnerable, infirm people?
00:36:02.000 That's not something a rational civilization would do, but at least that's a logical argument.
00:36:07.000 But at the point that we discovered that these things did not in any way control the disease,
00:36:12.000 they didn't control people contracting it, they didn't control people transmitting it,
00:36:16.000 the logic for inflicting them on healthy young people who were not threatened by COVID and
00:36:23.000 stood to gain nothing evaporated.
00:36:26.000 And yet we're doing it to this day.
00:36:28.000 Harvard apparently just re-initiated their policy of requiring those shots for their own students.
00:36:36.000 So what that's telling you is that Whatever is driving doesn't care that it is going to kill people who have long potentially important contribute long lives of potentially important contributions to make.
00:36:52.000 That's that's powerfully said and Well, I've got a hundred angles I want to go with, but Dr., where should we go next?
00:37:00.000 People can find all your work at darkhorse.locals.com.
00:37:03.000 They can also find you at Dark Horse on Rumble.
00:37:05.000 They can find your book, which was amazing right years ago, The Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century from a former professor at Evergreen State College.
00:37:14.000 Where should we go next?
00:37:15.000 Because, I mean, I'm happy to direct this.
00:37:17.000 You want to get into Tucker and Russia and the war, the borders, what's going to happen with the election, Biden?
00:37:22.000 I mean, you can see it everywhere.
00:37:24.000 Things are unraveling.
00:37:25.000 Well, let's briefly just talk about the central concept of the book that Heather and I wrote.
00:37:31.000 Yes.
00:37:32.000 The central concept of that book, and in fact, it would also have been a good title, is Hyper-Novelty.
00:37:40.000 And the idea of hyper-novelty is that although human beings are the fastest evolving animal species that has ever existed, and that is largely the result of the fact that we evolve in a different way, we are actually able to evolve culturally, which is much more rapid than genetic evolution.
00:37:57.000 But even though we are the fastest evolving animal species that has existed, The rate of technological change is so fast that even our evolutionary capacity... We can't catch up.
00:38:08.000 We cannot keep up.
00:38:09.000 And that is resulting in us being sick, physically, psychologically, socially.
00:38:16.000 And what you're detecting as the collapse of civilization is really a manifestation of many different kinds of hyper-novelty that is making it difficult for us to see what's in our interest, to figure out what to put in our mouths.
00:38:30.000 To figure out what we should think about various issues.
00:38:33.000 We are we are like a fish out of water That that's the analogy I use or also even our best men and women trying to go to Mars They're going to lose a lot of their muscle mass, heart mass.
00:38:45.000 They're going to have serious health problems.
00:38:47.000 Once they get there, they're going to be very lucky that it has a lower gravity because they're going to be a lot weaker.
00:38:52.000 And so what we're all going through is such a change.
00:38:55.000 Whether people believe in classical evolution or not, it's clear humans are evolving.
00:39:01.000 We do control our environment.
00:39:04.000 Any other animal out there, we're able to do amazing things.
00:39:08.000 But with something this accelerated, we can't do it.
00:39:11.000 But I read a lot of globalist writings.
00:39:13.000 They're very nihilistic.
00:39:14.000 They sit back and say, screw it.
00:39:17.000 It won't matter if billions die on this evolution.
00:39:20.000 Some humans will accelerate evolution.
00:39:23.000 We'll get the uber mention out of this battle of the gods, good or dama wrong.
00:39:27.000 And I'm like, boy, I heard this from Hitler before.
00:39:30.000 I mean, this is real megalomaniac crap.
00:39:33.000 Yes, and in fact I heard you recently talking about the fact that there are more than 400 civilian nuclear reactors on planet Earth.
00:39:42.000 What people may or may not realize is that those reactors require constant vigilance to keep them from melting down.
00:39:49.000 Their design requires that heat be removed from them constantly.
00:39:54.000 And so a civilizational breakdown threatens to take all of the material in these reactors and expel it into the world.
00:40:02.000 Somehow, I don't think the people who are recklessly steering us into such danger have considered the fact that they are living on a planet that is rigged so that they need people to maintain the integrity of those reactors, even for them to have a planet worth living on.
00:40:19.000 It looks purely reckless to me, and I don't think that there is a super clever secret plan that we are not in on.
00:40:24.000 I think they think there is, but I think they're wrong that it actually makes sense.
00:40:29.000 Well, you're absolutely right.
00:40:29.000 I mean, I know folks that have gone to Davos and been around behind the scenes.
00:40:32.000 I'll leave it at that.
00:40:33.000 It's literally prostitutes, drugs.
00:40:35.000 They're delusional.
00:40:37.000 They think they're all powerful, they believe this, and they have no plan, even 30 years from now, to have robots running these reactors.
00:40:44.000 And it's crazy, if you look at the designs of these General Electric systems and others, they'll use outside power to then run the cooling and dump it into a cooling pond
00:40:54.000 instead of the reactor's own power to run the system to use it in the cooling pond.
00:40:59.000 And I'm not a nuclear physicist or any of this, but I read what they say.
00:41:02.000 They're literally built the cheapest and the worst you could
00:41:06.000 and the minute the power goes off and the minute there's a crisis,
00:41:09.000 folks, nuclear reactors are not like a 100 megaton bomb going off over Dallas or Austin
00:41:14.000 and there's a flash at 5,000 feet and it vaporizes and destroys most of the city.
00:41:19.000 But there's very little radiation after that.
00:41:21.000 When a reactor goes off like Chernobyl or like Fukushima, it's much worse and those were partially contained.
00:41:30.000 We're talking about hundreds and hundreds of reactors blowing up, and even if you are half a mile underground, it's going to end up getting to you, and the surface of the Earth will be unlivable for eons.
00:41:44.000 As you said, I've looked at every angle, there's no way the so-called globalists that pretend they're masters of the universe have even looked at this one problem.
00:41:53.000 This one problem already tells you that these are effectively madmen.
00:41:53.000 Right.
00:41:57.000 Because if they weren't, they would at the very least have arranged to put all of the material that had been out of the reactors long enough, and I believe it's five years, into dry cask storage so that it did not have to be actively cooled in order to... Instead they store it in the open tanks!
00:42:16.000 The worst possible place you could put it.
00:42:19.000 And, you know, Fukushima taught us every if you knew how to pay attention to the Fukushima
00:42:25.000 story, it should have taught us everything we needed to know
00:42:27.000 because in fact, as bad as Fukushima was, and it's far worse in my opinion
00:42:31.000 than most people realize, it was a fraction of as bad as it might have been.
00:42:36.000 And the thing that separated what happened from what might've happened was luck,
00:42:40.000 right?
00:42:41.000 They just barely managed to keep it together and it is not hard to imagine
00:42:46.000 scenarios in which, for example, a fuel pool had cracked and drained causing a fire that
00:42:52.000 would have made the site unmanageable.
00:42:54.000 So they are gambling with a A planet that isn't theirs to destroy, that is actually, it is the birthright of every living person and it is the entitlement of all the people who will eventually live here.
00:43:07.000 They're gambling with it and they obviously don't know what they're doing.
00:43:11.000 Everybody knows I'm not f***ing around.
00:43:13.000 I'm taking on the New World Order.
00:43:15.000 And by the way, I'm not the huge environmentalist in that I follow that cult.
00:43:18.000 I actually care about the Earth as a conservationist.
00:43:20.000 It's also all the other creatures on this planet.
00:43:22.000 mother load. Get it now, foundational energy at infowarestore.com or go f*ck yourself.
00:43:22.000 Yep.
00:43:40.000 That's the most evil thing.
00:43:41.000 I'm like, you won't even get control of the nuclear reactors, assholes.
00:43:45.000 I mean, I'm sorry.
00:43:46.000 It makes me mad.
00:43:48.000 Well, I must tell you, this is one of the things I like about you best is that you're looking at this logically speaking, not ideologically.
00:43:58.000 And I find, in fact, many conservatives are not aware of the hazard of the nuclear reactors,
00:44:04.000 and they are frankly deaf to environmental concerns because environmental concerns have
00:44:10.000 been abused by those selling climate change as the biggest threat to humanity.
00:44:15.000 And what I'm hoping will emerge from a partnership across ideology is a recognition that irrespective
00:44:23.000 of where you think the diversity of the earth came from, that we have an obligation to steward
00:44:31.000 it well, and we are doing a terrible job of that.
00:44:34.000 That we have an obligation to, if we're going to have nuclear power, it has to be built
00:44:39.000 on a different basis than the reactors that we are currently continuing to run, right?
00:44:44.000 And that this is just common sense.
00:44:46.000 It's not liberal, it's not conservative, it is common sense, and I don't know Well, I made the point, and I guess you saw part of what I said last week, because it did get picked up and got a lot of views, a couple million views.
00:45:04.000 I just said, if you sign up with the executive over a nuclear power plant, Well, they made euthanasia legal.
00:45:11.000 Well, just say then you agree that if it melts down and there's a big problem, you agree to be executed.
00:45:16.000 No court, no nothing.
00:45:16.000 You signed on.
00:45:18.000 You're the steward.
00:45:18.000 You agreed to run this right.
00:45:20.000 And the shareholders are sitting out there.
00:45:22.000 They need to be held responsible.
00:45:24.000 And I don't want to run around killing people.
00:45:25.000 I'm not salivating.
00:45:26.000 I'm just making the point that these people are running things that just a few of these completely melting down will kill hundreds of millions of people of horrible cancers and stuff.
00:45:35.000 And they should be held accountable.
00:45:37.000 Well, at the very least, if you want the system to evolve in the direction of producing benefits for humanity, there has to be accountability for people when they make avoidable errors.
00:45:50.000 Well, how do we have accountability for the nuclear power industry?
00:45:52.000 Because I get it's a real science, it can be done right.
00:45:55.000 I've read a lot of books to see what experts have said.
00:45:58.000 But when I look how they run it, they run it like it's a pig farm or something.
00:46:01.000 I mean, it's just like...
00:46:02.000 Just like you said, Fukushima is what I was thinking about.
00:46:06.000 They've got like all the nuclear waste stored inside the building and inside the water when you're supposed to remove it?
00:46:12.000 Yeah, I mean the design was preposterous and you know it was preposterous at many levels.
00:46:20.000 Below the known level of tsunamis meant that the flooding of the generators that were supposed to keep the cooling water flowing was perfectly predictable, and yet nobody cared about it.
00:46:32.000 And, you know, as you point out, I don't think anybody who was responsible for that design was held accountable.
00:46:39.000 In fact, we've obscured the harm that did come from it, and we certainly haven't talked about the harm that might have come from it.
00:46:46.000 And don't forget the Japanese built it on the worst fault line in the country.
00:46:49.000 Absolutely.
00:46:50.000 This is a completely predictable catastrophe.
00:46:54.000 So, on a fault line, in a tsunami zone... Right, with reactors, with generators that were unprotected from a flood that would, you know, wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when.
00:47:06.000 Well, I used to talk to a lot of people in Congress, still do, and like military generals and people.
00:47:11.000 I still do, but they would say, Jones, you don't understand how incompetent the elites are.
00:47:15.000 You think they've got all the power and control.
00:47:17.000 They don't.
00:47:17.000 They've got all the money, so they're in charge.
00:47:19.000 But they, let me tell you something, they are not paying attention.
00:47:23.000 And I think that's more frightening.
00:47:26.000 There's some actual super genius, because at least a super genius wouldn't want to destroy themselves.
00:47:30.000 No, this is my exact concern, is that even the elites, what I call the rent-seeking elites, who we are clearly fighting, even they are depending on us winning, because they don't know enough to run the system.
00:47:30.000 Right.
00:47:43.000 They don't have the proper caution in their model.
00:47:45.000 They don't understand the systems that they're playing with.
00:47:48.000 Frankly, they can't distinguish between a complicated system and a complex system, and they keep upending themselves.
00:47:54.000 Explain that.
00:47:55.000 So, a complex system is impossible to predict at a high level of precision, which means that it requires a whole different level of caution than something that is just simply complicated, like a computer, where it may be beyond your ability to understand what's going on in there, but it is all understandable, right?
00:48:16.000 You can say what a computer is going to do when you alter this, that, or the other thing.
00:48:20.000 A complex system is a special entity.
00:48:23.000 And, you know, in the case of COVID, you had multiple nested complex systems, right?
00:48:32.000 You had a disease interacting with the immune system, which is a complex system, inside a human body, which is a complex system, inside of civilization, which is a complex system.
00:48:42.000 No wonder they screwed it up.
00:48:44.000 They just simply didn't know enough about that system to manage it and of course it got out of control and frankly those of us who did appreciate the complexity of the system were able to reveal their foolishness publicly just simply by treating the systems in question with the proper level of analytical respect.
00:49:07.000 And I get up front because you didn't know exactly what was going on at the time.
00:49:10.000 You wanted more data.
00:49:11.000 You were going along with it at first, but then once you saw what was happening, you changed course.
00:49:15.000 That takes more courage than people that are partly wrong and they never admit they're wrong.
00:49:21.000 But if we pull back from this, How did they think cooking this up in a lab?
00:49:26.000 How did they think when all the scientists scanned it and said, yeah, it's obviously man-made?
00:49:31.000 And then they bring out a shot, which even their own internal people go public saying, this isn't going to work.
00:49:36.000 Even the FDA had a memo out in October 2000 saying, we think it'll have all these problems.
00:49:42.000 And then the big money people just said, we don't care, bring it out there, do it.
00:49:46.000 And now I watch the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation events.
00:49:49.000 I watch the congressional hearings.
00:49:50.000 I watch the hearings.
00:49:52.000 With all the other big think tanks, like the Clinton Global Initiative.
00:49:57.000 And there's Chelsea Clinton going, it's true, everyone hates us now and doesn't believe us.
00:50:02.000 And now no one's taking any of the shots.
00:50:03.000 It's like 3% uptake on the new boosters.
00:50:07.000 And like, I was telling him, I'm like, whether they did it on purpose or not, regardless, it shows that they didn't know that this would absolutely screw the pooch.
00:50:19.000 I mean, because they are hated now.
00:50:22.000 Well, and rightly so.
00:50:24.000 You know, it would be one thing if they had made all of these errors, and then upon the revelation that these things were wrong, had changed course.
00:50:35.000 But the fact that they don't change course tells us they didn't care in the first place whether what they were saying was true.
00:50:40.000 Maybe they didn't believe any of it to begin with.
00:50:42.000 So whether they did it on purpose or not, which you can debate all day, they certainly now know and have bought into keeping it going, so now they are behind it.
00:50:50.000 Right.
00:50:51.000 I mean, the fact is, those shots should never have been injected into a human being.
00:50:57.000 It was absolutely clear that we didn't know what their long-term consequences were going to be.
00:51:04.000 The evidence that they had benefits was misrepresented so that people would accept them with, you know, simple accounting tricks and the like.
00:51:14.000 But yes, the fact that they are still inflicting new shots tells us that they didn't care about the public in the first place.
00:51:20.000 And we ought to take that lesson to heart.
00:51:23.000 Now, to your point about having bought it at first.
00:51:26.000 There is no question that I, along with most other people, bought something about this story at the beginning.
00:51:34.000 And to the extent that people have woken up, that's something that happens over time.
00:51:38.000 But I know very well how my process of awakening began.
00:51:45.000 It literally took one hour, almost to the minute.
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00:54:51.000 And what happened to me was Heather and I were actually working on our book in a remote
00:54:58.000 location in the Amazon, in Ecuador.
00:55:00.000 and...
00:55:01.000 And so we weren't connected to the world because our phones didn't reach anywhere.
00:55:07.000 And when we emerged from The Amazon, and our phones came awake.
00:55:12.000 We saw for the first time that there was some novel coronavirus circulating, that the claim was that it was from bats.
00:55:21.000 And you're a bat scientist?
00:55:23.000 I'm a bat biologist, so I looked at it and I thought... You're Batman!
00:55:26.000 I guess.
00:55:27.000 But I looked at this and I looked at the paper in question, and I thought it would be good, it would be reassuring to tell my Twitter followers that I'd looked at this, that I knew the bat family in question, That it made sense to me that this virus would have emerged in a contact between people and these bats, etc.
00:55:49.000 And so I put out a tweet.
00:55:51.000 And one of my followers came back and said, are you saying it's a coincidence that this virus emerged on the doorstep of a biosafety level 4 research lab studying bat coronaviruses in Wuhan?
00:56:02.000 And I said, what the hell don't I know?
00:56:04.000 That's shocking, that level of coincidence.
00:56:07.000 And I retracted my tweet.
00:56:09.000 And the point is, that's where my awakening started.
00:56:12.000 Now, I did believe that masks had a potential value, and in fact, that's not such a crazy belief, because we didn't know at first whether this virus transmitted by what's called fomite transmission on surfaces, and if it did, then not coughing droplets onto surfaces would have been useful.
00:56:28.000 Turns out it doesn't transmit that way.
00:56:30.000 Turns out the evidence is that masks don't play an important role, and so I got that wrong.
00:56:35.000 Well, let's make this clear, because people attacking with us Because they're jealous.
00:56:39.000 You're really smart.
00:56:40.000 You're informative.
00:56:40.000 You're entertaining.
00:56:42.000 I like your show.
00:56:42.000 Everybody I know likes your show.
00:56:44.000 I told family you were coming on.
00:56:45.000 They were really excited about it.
00:56:47.000 You're popular.
00:56:48.000 People love you.
00:56:49.000 And you're a good guy and you're smart.
00:56:50.000 The fact that you got some things wrong early on out of trying to be cautious and then reversed yourself and become a prominent person fighting it gives you more credibility, not less.
00:57:01.000 Well, frankly, if I'm looking to figure out who I should be paying attention to, the ability for somebody to improve their model as evidence emerges is the key question.
00:57:13.000 That's science!
00:57:14.000 That's how it's done.
00:57:15.000 And so, yeah, I would love not to have gotten anything wrong, but that's, I think, Inconceivable.
00:57:22.000 I assumed that something we were being told was true.
00:57:25.000 I now think, at least at the level of the advice we were given, that essentially you wanted to do exactly the opposite of what you were told to do.
00:57:32.000 That would have been the best possible thing.
00:57:34.000 They told you to go home.
00:57:35.000 Don't go home.
00:57:36.000 Go outside.
00:57:37.000 Make vitamin D. But see, you're in the Amazon writing a book.
00:57:40.000 I'm reading Rockefeller Foundation documents.
00:57:43.000 I'm interviewing the guy that wrote the U.S.
00:57:45.000 Biological Weapons Law.
00:57:46.000 So that's why we were just like, do the opposite.
00:57:49.000 Well, actually, you know, it's funny.
00:57:49.000 Do the opposite.
00:57:51.000 I'm reading Robert Kennedy Jr.' 's new book on bioweapons and the connection to Wuhan.
00:58:00.000 And it is absolutely frightening history that most of us do not know about our own biological weapons program.
00:58:09.000 And if you had known... Talk some about that!
00:58:11.000 Well, I'm learning from Bobby Kennedy, so I would recommend people read this book, just like his last one, The Real Anthony Fauci.
00:58:20.000 I read the last one, incredible.
00:58:24.000 Frankly, it's a book that throws everybody who reads it, and I think through Bobby, when he wrote it, that even just compiling the evidence of what was going on with Anthony Fauci is shocking, almost no matter how awake you are.
00:58:38.000 It's staggering.
00:58:39.000 Yeah, it's staggering.
00:58:40.000 And so the same thing I would say is true with his new book about bioweapons and Wuhan.
00:58:48.000 But I just highly recommend people look at it and they come to understand, for example... Then you learn they're all over the place.
00:58:54.000 You learn they're all over the place.
00:58:55.000 You learn that there is a direct connection from the Japanese bioweapons program during World War II.
00:59:06.000 And the program that was then built in the U.S.
00:59:09.000 It's really a strange story.
00:59:12.000 And then the maybe the most important aspect is that what we see as a pharmaceutical industry and a campaign to generate vaccines that control disease has a very close relationship Just in terms of the people involved has a very close relationship with that bioweapons program.
00:59:32.000 That is something every citizen needs to be aware of, that these two things are not distinct.
00:59:37.000 I remember reading about it.
00:59:39.000 It's very well documented.
00:59:40.000 At the end of World War II, they led a bunch of the Japanese war criminals that did the baton death marches and all the biological testing on British, Australian, Canadians, because a lot of them were over there, and U.S.
00:59:52.000 sailors and people.
00:59:54.000 But it was mainly British Empire troops.
00:59:58.000 And they led most of them off.
01:00:00.000 I guess they hung a few of them.
01:00:02.000 And they brought them over here, just like the Nazis.
01:00:05.000 And got all the technology.
01:00:06.000 Right.
01:00:06.000 And if you think that the Nazis were the height of diabolical in terms of their medical experiments, the Japanese were involved in literally infecting people or having people infect other people and then dissecting them live without anesthetic.
01:00:22.000 I mean, this is this is atrocity at a level that stretches the capacity of the mind.
01:00:28.000 Well, the Japanese are really cool people, very interesting, but if you go back to Japanese
01:00:33.000 imperial brainwashing and how they worked, if you were rude to your boss,
01:00:36.000 you would, he'd say, "Kill yourself," and you would.
01:00:38.000 Their thing was, these troops surrendered, even though they were all shot up and stuff.
01:00:41.000 You're not a human anymore, you surrendered.
01:00:44.000 That's why they were flying their planes into our aircraft carriers and committing suicide
01:00:49.000 before they'd give up or when they were wounded, because that's like, to them, like,
01:00:52.000 oh, you surrendered, even though you got three bullet holes, You're subhuman.
01:00:56.000 It goes back to that.
01:00:57.000 Well, that's one lesson.
01:00:58.000 The other lesson I would take is that this is actually a set of circuits in the human animal that can be triggered.
01:01:08.000 And when we look at something like the response to COVID of the official governmental apparatus and the International community and we look at the evidence and it suggests that actually these people did not care about the suffering and death of citizens of any country then what prevents us from making the connection is that it seems impossible for anyone to be so callous but the evidence that that kind of callousness exists that we have well documented
01:01:43.000 Historical evidence that that not only exists, but that it recurs through history.
01:01:47.000 The question is, is that where we are now?
01:01:51.000 I want you to expand on that because one of the biggest mistakes of the Canadian military, the US military, and I'm not blaming the average troops, but the higher-ups and the European Union military, as I'm sure you saw it, in about 2021, by the end, they came out during the dancing nurses and all of it, They do.
01:02:09.000 What I don't know yet is what the purpose of this was.
01:02:12.000 psychological warfare systems to scare everybody to submission so they do the right thing and
01:02:17.000 take the shots.
01:02:18.000 And actually, our militaries ran this, and we know now the Pentagon was involved in developing
01:02:23.000 the vaccine, and we're so proud of it.
01:02:25.000 So they admit they were running a sign-off.
01:02:28.000 They do.
01:02:29.000 What I don't know yet is what the purpose of this was.
01:02:33.000 They seemed absolutely dedicated to getting a shot in every arm that, in principle, I
01:02:41.000 suppose could be driven by greed, but it does not feel like a satisfying explanation.
01:02:48.000 There was something driving them to want to vaccinate everybody, even children, who stood no chance of getting any benefit from this.
01:02:57.000 What was that about?
01:02:58.000 That's the question that keeps me up at night.
01:03:01.000 Alright, so do this, Doctor, and I'm going to try to, because you're so polite, I'm going to try to give you the floor here.
01:03:07.000 I saw you do a great job on Tucker, but even more has come out since you were on a month or so ago.
01:03:12.000 You break down and do a great job explaining that We're talking about 17 million dead, not from the COVID virus, but from the so-called shots, and then now more information's coming out, and there's an active cover-up going on.
01:03:30.000 Can you kind of repeat that, but also expand on it?
01:03:32.000 Now, I want to be careful.
01:03:32.000 Sure.
01:03:33.000 People have taken me to task for saying that 17 million people died, which I didn't say.
01:03:38.000 The statistics show that number's gone up.
01:03:41.000 Well, Dennis Rancourt did what I think is a credible estimate.
01:03:46.000 It's well published.
01:03:47.000 I think you had him on.
01:03:50.000 And so it suggests that something like this magnitude of death has occurred.
01:03:56.000 Now, of course, let's say that his estimate is accurate.
01:04:00.000 That's still a number in the midst of the development of whatever the pathologies will be.
01:04:09.000 We're still dealing with a wave of excess death that has not ended, so we don't know ultimately what the number would be.
01:04:18.000 My point would be what we need is an active conversation about how much excess death happened and what were its causes.
01:04:28.000 Clearly some of it was caused by things like lockdowns which prevented people from getting regular medical care.
01:04:35.000 But what we need to know is what is the right order of magnitude for that effect?
01:04:43.000 And what is the nature?
01:04:46.000 This is, forgive me, this is a little complex, but I want people to think about it carefully, because a lot has been put on the spike protein.
01:04:58.000 People imagine that the spike protein is the cause of the pathologies, and while I think the spike protein was a very poor choice for these shots, that it does create pathologies of its own, I don't think it's the majority of what's going on.
01:05:12.000 And in fact, what I believe is It is likely that many of the deaths that occur as a result of these shots, it's the result of the mRNA platform itself.
01:05:28.000 That anything you loaded onto that platform would produce many of these pathologies, because the platform itself is deeply flawed.
01:05:37.000 That matters a great deal because one of the things, and I don't know what level in the explanation it serves, but one of the things that is true is that the COVID pandemic, whatever its nature was, from complete PSYOP to entirely biological, allowed the normalization of The mRNA platform being brought and used on the public with minimal testing, which made the flaws in the platform disappear.
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01:06:41.000 The fact that we were in a hurry to get out of COVID allowed them to normalize the mRNA platform and that that platform, from the business perspective, Allows you to reformulate virtually any vaccine that you wanted and... In a lifetime.
01:06:59.000 Presumably to repatent it, to create vaccines very quickly for new pathogens, whatever their origin might be.
01:06:59.000 Right.
01:07:08.000 And what we in the public need to be aware of is that they haven't figured out how to solve the problem with it.
01:07:15.000 So anytime they deploy it, we need to say no.
01:07:20.000 So, let me just describe a little bit about why that flaw exists.
01:07:26.000 The mRNA message, this is a genetic message loaded into this platform, is surrounded by something called lipid nanoparticle.
01:07:36.000 If those lipid nanoparticles stayed in your deltoid muscle, then their consequence would be localized.
01:07:44.000 And although this consequence would be negative in your deltoid, it wouldn't be devastating to your health.
01:07:49.000 But they, of course, don't stay in your deltoid, which we learned very early.
01:07:53.000 They circulate around the body.
01:07:55.000 And the problem is that that lipid nanoparticle, lipid just means fat, and because like dissolves like, the fat on these tiny particles causes the mRNA to be absorbed into any cell they encounter.
01:08:12.000 All of your cells are covered in a fat layer.
01:08:14.000 So wherever these things circulate around the body, they get absorbed.
01:08:18.000 And when they get absorbed, they trigger the cells that have taken them up to produce this protein.
01:08:24.000 Now, this is the important part.
01:08:27.000 Your immune system is built so that it recognizes any cell of yours that is producing a protein that you do not ordinarily make.
01:08:37.000 And it targets that cell and destroys it.
01:08:40.000 Like it's cancer?
01:08:41.000 Like it's virally infected.
01:08:43.000 So basically, their mRNA shots are a pseudovirus.
01:08:47.000 They infect cells, cause those cells to make this protein, and then the immune system treats them like they are virally infected cells and destroys them.
01:08:55.000 Which, if that happens in your liver, maybe it's not that serious.
01:08:58.000 You can afford it.
01:08:59.000 If it happens in your heart, it's potentially devastating, because it creates a wound Which is then a vulnerability.
01:09:05.000 If you're a soccer player and you're running particularly hard, you know, you can get a blood vessel that bursts in your heart, causing a devastating pathology, causing your death, for example.
01:09:17.000 This is a predictable consequence of a shot that has no ability to target which cells take it up, and therefore no ability to protect you from your own immune system destroying the cells that have taken it up and giving you a lethal wound.
01:09:17.000 Right?
01:09:33.000 We're taping this now, but that gives me the luxury to go back and add these clips in, but there were three or four C-SPAN programs with Fauci and others in 2017, 18, 19, with all the different federal heads up there.
01:09:45.000 They're like, we're going to use a novel virus out of China, and I'll play the clip.
01:09:49.000 to blow up the old FDA system and we're just gonna bring in mRNA.
01:09:54.000 Well, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a biologist like you,
01:09:59.000 but I sit here every day and I read Scientific American and I read studies and I read it.
01:10:04.000 I remember, I've been on there 30 years, I remember reading 20 years ago about,
01:10:09.000 "Hey, mRNA cancer trial or mRNA this." And like one kid was a study in New York died.
01:10:15.000 And they're like, well, we think it's promising, but it kills so many people, we can't do it.
01:10:21.000 And so in lay terms, that's the platform itself is so dangerous.
01:10:26.000 Yeah, maybe you can do something.
01:10:29.000 But we can't use the whole public as guinea pigs and I just see them trying to pollute the whole system with so much death and illness that now we don't know what hit us and they can then use all of us.
01:10:42.000 The big corporate system as guinea pigs because they themselves want life extension and they themselves want the cure to cancer, but they're saying we've got to do this and now Tony Blair has got a company and so does Bill Gates.
01:10:55.000 Oh, they've got a new mRNA vaccine cures cancer.
01:10:58.000 Oh, didn't know cancer was communicable.
01:11:00.000 No folks, they've changed the definition of vaccines to where it just means something that we put into your Body that lessens the disease.
01:11:12.000 But just five years ago, it was totally different.
01:11:15.000 So I even had my 15-year-old daughter this morning at breakfast, and she's arguing with me about vaccines.
01:11:21.000 And she's reading stuff online, and she goes to school, and I try to explain things to her, and she says, dad, a vaccine is just something that lessens the disease.
01:11:33.000 And I said, no, honey, before that, if you've got a real vaccine, it's a real technology, Your body learns how to beat it.
01:11:39.000 They give you a broken version of it or a weakened version, and you beat it.
01:11:43.000 Mesa loves side effects.
01:11:44.000 Sometimes you might have an allergic response, but if they had good, clean stuff, I'd take the risk.
01:11:49.000 I'd be taking it all like it was pumpkin pie.
01:11:51.000 She's like, Dad, how do you know all this?
01:11:52.000 And I said, well, fine, I got a scientist coming on.
01:11:54.000 I'm going to make you watch it in a couple of days.
01:11:57.000 She said, fine, I'll watch it.
01:11:58.000 So this is the level we're dealing with here.
01:12:01.000 But am I right in what I said?
01:12:03.000 Yeah, you're right in what you said.
01:12:04.000 They changed the definition and they utilized an emergency in order to speed it past the tests that I believe would never have allowed it to be used on humans or frankly even farm animals.
01:12:19.000 They used the panic that was in the public, panic which they themselves induced in order to sneak it past the controls.
01:12:27.000 And I do have to wonder how much They saw this coming.
01:12:32.000 Either they waited for an emergency, or it's possible they created the emergency.
01:12:36.000 Those are two distinct hypotheses.
01:12:39.000 But nonetheless, they used the fact that people urgently wanted to have their fear of the virus lessened to sell a lie.
01:12:49.000 And in fact, this is where, you know, I talked a little bit about how I Woke up at the point that my Twitter follower told me that there was a biosafety level 4 lab studying these viruses in Wuhan.
01:13:05.000 The place where that process really kicked into high gear was at the point that they said these so-called vaccines were safe.
01:13:18.000 Heather and I knew for certain that that could not possibly be the case.
01:13:23.000 And the reason it can't possibly be the case is because safe does not mean without harm.
01:13:30.000 It means without risk.
01:13:33.000 If a person gets in their car drunk and drives home and they don't hit anything, it was still not safe.
01:13:39.000 The fact that they did no harm doesn't mean anything.
01:13:40.000 It was dangerous.
01:13:41.000 So when they told us that these so-called vaccines were safe, they had to be lying and they had to know it.
01:13:49.000 And yet they looked right into the camera and they told us that.
01:13:52.000 Safe and effective.
01:13:53.000 Safe and effective.
01:13:54.000 Effective turned out to be equally nonsensical.
01:13:59.000 But safe had to be a lie.
01:14:00.000 And at the point that they were lying over that, then it raised questions of informed consent.
01:14:07.000 Because, of course, at the end of World War II, the Allied Powers tried Nazi doctors and we literally hung seven doctors.
01:14:15.000 We killed them because they had violated informed consent of their patients, even though informed consent had not been formally codified yet.
01:14:25.000 So for public health authorities in 2021, to be telling us that these shots were safe when they knew
01:14:35.000 better meant they weren't interested in informed consent. They had somehow given up on that
01:14:39.000 principle and that was effectively a declaration of war on the public. And then you add all the
01:14:47.000 pressuring and all the intimidation and all the mandates.
01:14:51.000 Now I notice in Australia, and Germany, and the UK, and Canada, they're like, we never told you you had to.
01:14:56.000 Well, they fired hundreds of thousands of nurses worldwide, and persecuted people.
01:15:00.000 No, you guys just, Joseph Minglet, you literally just violated the Nuremberg Code, correct?
01:15:08.000 Absolutely, and in fact, I was, I had not read the Nuremberg Code.
01:15:14.000 Until I started looking into this question, and there are 10 provisions in it, and not only did they violate the Nuremberg Code twice, right?
01:15:22.000 It wasn't consent, it was coerced, and it wasn't informed, they lied to us.
01:15:27.000 But they violated every provision in it, right?
01:15:31.000 This was, they torched the Nuremberg Code, and we still haven't had that conversation publicly.
01:15:37.000 And notice how smart, because I read that on air like three years ago, how good those lawyers were back then, because they covered every angle a tyrant would try.
01:15:45.000 Absolutely.
01:15:46.000 And you read it, you go, oh my God, that's what they just did.
01:15:48.000 Yep.
01:15:49.000 It's like, instead of saying, don't file it, they went, this is how we do it.
01:15:55.000 It is possible they used it as an instruction set, and that tells you what kind of contempt they must hold us in.
01:16:04.000 For them to have looked at a pillar of Western civilization, an achievement that was All right, Dr. Bret Weinstein, stay right there.
01:16:14.000 I want to come back in the time we have and hit a whole bunch of issues.
01:16:18.000 Tucker, Russia, the wars, the border, all of it with you.
01:16:20.000 Amazing.
01:16:20.000 We'll be right back.
01:16:21.000 that so willingly really tells us what we're up against.
01:16:25.000 Alright, Dr. Brett Weinstein, stay right there.
01:16:27.000 I want to come back in the time we have and hit a whole bunch of issues.
01:16:30.000 Tucker, Russia, the wars, the border, all of it with you.
01:16:33.000 Amazing. We'll be right back, folks.
01:16:35.000 Stay with us.
01:16:36.000 Two years ago, we began developing this game that came out so much better than we thought it would.
01:16:43.000 It is now a number one hit.
01:16:45.000 I imagined the control freak left attacking it.
01:16:49.000 But I didn't know that right when the game came out, with perfect timing, Elon Musk would release me on X. And the whole world will be waking up and the Davos Group will be confronted at their own events by world leaders calling out their tyranny.
01:17:02.000 This is the planets aligning.
01:17:04.000 And now, MSNBC, the corporate press, Media Matters, George Soros, they're all calling for it to be banned.
01:17:11.000 Is there a way to counter the types of hate that people like Alex Jones promote and now they do in video games?
01:17:20.000 I mean, this is a party that talks about video games being dangerous for our kids.
01:17:26.000 And yet here he is with a video game that promotes violence.
01:17:31.000 You will be silenced.
01:17:33.000 And celebrates that kind of violence.
01:17:37.000 You suck, big tech lizard nerd!
01:17:39.000 Because, let's be honest here, when he is talking about killing globalists, we know what globalists now means for the Republican Party and what that is code for.
01:17:47.000 Because they understand they're reaching a bunch of young guys who are getting this sort of message beaten into them right now.
01:17:53.000 Today, I'm playing the Unhinged Alex Jones video game.
01:17:56.000 I saw it was released on Steam, so I'm like, well, that kind of opens the floodgates.
01:18:00.000 This game is actually really good fun.
01:18:04.000 Look at all the blood!
01:18:08.000 Look at all these zombies!
01:18:11.000 Okay.
01:18:12.000 I'll eat your ass!
01:18:14.000 Okay, so that is what he said.
01:18:17.000 I'll eat your ass!
01:18:18.000 I don't know what the characteristics of the game are beyond that he's involved and that it's killing globalists.
01:18:24.000 This is the kind of thing that will become a normalization lever In teaching people, I mean, it's okay to kill.
01:18:32.000 It's okay to kill the globalists.
01:18:34.000 This is pretty amazing.
01:18:37.000 Jump around, jump around.
01:18:39.000 Alex Jones, you are a hero!
01:18:43.000 This is supposed to be Justin Trudeau, I think.
01:18:47.000 Come on, Mark!
01:18:49.000 Oh, sh**!
01:18:51.000 Mark Zuckerberg, kill me!
01:18:53.000 Look at him crawling away!
01:18:54.000 Wait!
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01:19:36.000 Before we go any further in the time, because now I want to run through a whole bunch of topics, get your take on them,
01:19:36.000 because I really...
01:19:42.000 I want to hear your view on things.
01:19:44.000 How do people, not that most folks don't know about or don't listen, find your podcast, find your show, find your book.
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01:19:52.000 Dark Horse is the name of your podcast, darkhorse.locals.com.
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01:20:04.000 It'd be great if you would sign up for my Twitter feed.
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01:20:23.000 And I'm glad you raised that because I know your Twitter, I know your ex has been following it for years, but even when I was kicked off Twitter before Elon brought me back, and I still sometimes run onto the fake accounts.
01:20:35.000 There are fake accounts and there is something algorithmically going on inside of Twitter which is also very strange when you see it from my side of the screen.
01:20:44.000 I don't know what it is.
01:20:45.000 I suspect it's not Elon doing it.
01:20:50.000 Let's put it this way.
01:20:51.000 He said that he had in fact purchased a crime scene and I think that is a very apt description.
01:20:57.000 There's a lot about Twitter that is not straightforward.
01:20:59.000 When I was able to speak to him for over two and a half hours, like six weeks ago, he said, listen, it was set up to run these shenanigans.
01:21:06.000 The very fabric of it is a fraud.
01:21:08.000 We're trying to fix it.
01:21:09.000 Yeah.
01:21:10.000 It's like a ghost in the machine.
01:21:11.000 That's in fact exactly the phrase that I used to try to convey this to him.
01:21:17.000 There are things that I can see from my side that I think he's unaware of.
01:21:21.000 So, anyway, I hope he does fix it.
01:21:23.000 At one point he was talking about having to rebuild it in order to get all of the ghosts out of the machine, and I don't know where he is with that thought process.
01:21:31.000 Because I have contacts, not as good as yours, but I'm able to call some of his top people when they block us or won't let me put my website up.
01:21:37.000 He goes, yeah, we'll fix it.
01:21:38.000 It's fixing an hour, and then somebody turns it back on.
01:21:42.000 They built a lot of back doors.
01:21:43.000 Right.
01:21:44.000 There's a lot going on in there that is not about the front end of Twitter.
01:21:48.000 All right, we got 40 minutes left.
01:21:50.000 Let's run through it all.
01:21:51.000 You just went to the Darien Gap.
01:21:53.000 Again, that's where North America ends or Central America ends.
01:21:57.000 It goes into South America.
01:21:58.000 They're officially building this giant UN operation.
01:22:02.000 You did a great summation when you were on Tucker, but can you expand on that for viewers?
01:22:07.000 Sure, so the Darien Gap is a gap in the Pan-American Highway.
01:22:11.000 It's about 60 miles in length, where the highway has never been completed.
01:22:15.000 This is a highway that goes from Prudhoe Bay, Alaska to the southern tip of South America, and there's a jungle.
01:22:20.000 In fact, there's a national park in the Darien Province of Panama, and what has happened is that For various reasons, largely encouraged by the international community, various NGOs, there is a massive migration of people coming through
01:22:40.000 The Darien Gap.
01:22:41.000 And this is a disaster at an environmental level.
01:22:45.000 This is extremely destructive of this unique forest, and it really is a unique forest.
01:22:52.000 It is a humanitarian catastrophe as well.
01:22:56.000 People are dying in the jungle because almost all of them enter it unprepared, and it's an extremely difficult habitat to cross.
01:23:05.000 And it's also I'm not even sure what the word would be, but politically, the implications of the huge number of migrants, almost all of whom are coming north to the U.S., are going to cross our southern border, the implications are utterly profound.
01:23:21.000 Now, what I told Tucker was that I wasn't exactly sure why I went to look at this in person, because there's plenty of documentation from Michael Yan, about what's taking place but something told me that I needed to see it in person in order to understand it and that turned out to be true that actually looking at it in person changed what I understood and I came to the conclusion that there is a massive migration but there is also something
01:23:52.000 My hypothesis is that it's actually an invasion of Chinese migrants who are motivated by something entirely distinct from the people migrating from elsewhere in the world.
01:24:04.000 The migrants from elsewhere, a lot of them are from South America, some of them are from the Middle East, but those migrants All tell the same story about being motivated by the economic collapses in their home countries and what they perceive as economic opportunity in the US.
01:24:23.000 The Chinese migrants aren't interested in talking at all.
01:24:25.000 In fact, they're extremely cagey.
01:24:28.000 To the extent that one gets anything from them, it is a kind of hostility.
01:24:32.000 There is a distinct male bias in the population of Chinese migrants.
01:24:37.000 So we're talking about young military, military-age males, most of them very fit, unwilling to talk about what they're doing, and oddly enough, housed separately in Panama.
01:24:52.000 We know there's some Chinese government sponsorship.
01:24:54.000 It certainly looks like the Chinese government would have to be aware of these migrants.
01:24:59.000 Presumably, it would have had to let them leave China.
01:25:02.000 And they've got complex apps?
01:25:04.000 They have, yes.
01:25:06.000 This is a strange combination of low-tech and high-tech.
01:25:09.000 There are apps that appear to tell them where to go and how to make the migration.
01:25:16.000 They're using things like Western Union in order to bring money from home so that they can buy bus tickets that allow them to travel through Central America.
01:25:26.000 It's a very odd circumstance and the international community has its fingerprints all over it.
01:25:35.000 You can see American flags, you can see the IOM, that's a UN body that If you read their website, they clearly believe that migration is inherently a good thing and it is their job to bring it about.
01:25:50.000 So this organization is inviting people to try to cross the Darien Gap, some of whom don't make it.
01:25:59.000 Mothers are leaving the jungle having lost children, children are leaving the jungle orphaned.
01:26:05.000 It's a catastrophe and why the international community And no media coverage other than you and Tucker Carlson and Michael Yawn, and you said a humanitarian disaster.
01:26:23.000 You made a point on Tucker, I forget the exact quote, but it was powerful.
01:26:26.000 You said, it's almost impossible to overstate how dark and organized this is.
01:26:33.000 Yes, it's visible on the ground, but nobody goes to look at it.
01:26:38.000 And I must say, I'm grateful to Michael Jan for having invited me and having given me effectively a guided tour.
01:26:44.000 He brought, in fact, me and my son.
01:26:45.000 We traveled.
01:26:48.000 To Darien, and he knew exactly where to take us so that we could look at it for ourselves.
01:26:53.000 Maybe it's also you going home, because I think Jon told me you actually, for part of your bat research, lived down there for a while, right?
01:26:58.000 I lived in the Panama Canal in Lake Gatun on Barrow, Colorado Island for 18 months while I was studying bats.
01:27:06.000 So I know Panama reasonably well, and what is taking place in In the Darien Gap, and moving north, is in its own way an inversion of what was true in Panama when I was there in the late 90s.
01:27:28.000 Meaning the US military was still in control?
01:27:32.000 Well, the handover was in process, but the U.S.
01:27:35.000 had not officially handed the canal over and its military presence was still there, and these things were well understood.
01:27:41.000 The canal was an American achievement, the military's presence there Uh, was both symbolic and important to the protection of the canal, which was understood to be vital to the interests of the United States.
01:27:56.000 And now, in Fort Clayton, which was the Army South headquarters, when I was there, that has now been taken over by the
01:28:06.000 international community and turned to the purpose of encouraging this migration,
01:28:12.000 thereby jeopardizing the security of the United States.
01:28:15.000 So it's a UN globalist invasion port?
01:28:18.000 You know, it seems to be.
01:28:20.000 It's very hard for me to imagine.
01:28:22.000 I don't know what story these people tell themselves about what they are doing, but yes, it appears to be that what was once, what was built to protect American interests and to facilitate our well-being is now being turned to its exact opposite purpose.
01:28:37.000 Like everything else, I don't see how the powerful financial interests of the world are using American power to continue their corporate empire, but at the same time, schizophrenically, Paradoxically, moronically attacking it.
01:28:54.000 I mean, I think we're always left to struggle for what they could possibly be thinking.
01:28:54.000 Yes.
01:29:00.000 And I think where you began this discussion is exactly right.
01:29:03.000 We have to take into account that Diabolical, yes.
01:29:09.000 Geniuses, I don't think so.
01:29:11.000 I think these people are reckless and they do not understand that they are having a much easier time breaking these systems than they will have rebuilding them.
01:29:20.000 I think they're looking only first order.
01:29:22.000 They're not looking second, third, fourth order.
01:29:26.000 Well, it's almost like they have the mentality that they can, you know, rebuilding the system isn't high on their priority list because they know that they have to break the systems that allow citizens some control over their own well-being and their own future.
01:29:44.000 That's the crazy gamble.
01:29:45.000 They think they can wreck it and then rebuild it.
01:29:47.000 Yes, and in fact it's not unlike What the diversity and equity inclusion diversity equity and inclusion folks are thinking, right?
01:29:56.000 They are very focused on tearing down a system the evils of which they believe themselves to be thoroughly familiar with.
01:30:05.000 Even though they're in control of it.
01:30:07.000 That's the mental illness is they're in control of it.
01:30:11.000 Like it's kind of like when the Fall of Rome finally happened at 410 with Alaric, and they burned down almost everything.
01:30:18.000 They were so shocked by one building, they left it alone.
01:30:20.000 But it never came back, basically, because they just said, well, we'll just burn it, instead of saying, well, we run this now.
01:30:27.000 Right, and the fact is, Heather frequently points out that this is really a mistake that could only be made by people who have not traveled the world.
01:30:38.000 Because once you've seen how successful our system actually is, yeah, there's unfairness in it, no question about that.
01:30:46.000 But you would address the unfairness at the level that it actually exists, rather than imagine that if you tear it apart, that something better will replace it.
01:30:55.000 Let me use a silly analogy.
01:30:56.000 Here's American Western success for GDP and human freedom and medicine and mobility and human empowerment.
01:31:03.000 It's up here.
01:31:04.000 And then it's got a lot of unfairness to it, so it's got unfairness down here.
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01:31:18.000 But the system they're going to create has a ceiling way down here, way worse than even what people live in in the unfairness.
01:31:26.000 Absolutely.
01:31:27.000 There's almost no way that they could exceed what Western civilization has already done to bring about fairness, which doesn't mean that it has arrived at fairness.
01:31:37.000 But we don't blow up the best thing we got.
01:31:39.000 Right.
01:31:40.000 It's like you're on a ship at sea and you decide that you don't like something about its construction, so you're going to sink it in hopes that something better comes along.
01:31:51.000 Instead, you just drown.
01:31:52.000 Right.
01:31:52.000 That's what you're gonna do.
01:31:53.000 You take it into port, you buy the ship, you change it.
01:31:56.000 Right.
01:31:57.000 You upgrade the ship, or you trade it for something.
01:31:59.000 You don't destroy it in the hopes that a better one is gonna arrive, because that's not gonna happen.
01:32:03.000 You're gonna drown as a result of that folly.
01:32:06.000 This is an incredible interview.
01:32:07.000 We've only got 30 minutes left, but you're hitting on all cylinders.
01:32:10.000 We're all seeing the same reality.
01:32:11.000 It's not like we're following some script of music or some directive we got.
01:32:16.000 It's right there.
01:32:17.000 Right.
01:32:18.000 I mean, in fact, that's the best indication that you have that a story is true, is that people happen on it from multiple different starting points.
01:32:25.000 That's how you know that you're really on to something.
01:32:27.000 And so, I love the fact that you and I have arrived at a similar place from very different starting points.
01:32:33.000 That's confirmation that it's real.
01:32:36.000 Alright, shifting gears out of that then, what do you make of the hysteria over Tucker?
01:32:41.000 Hundreds of millions of views on X, billions have seen clips of it, one of the biggest interviews ever, it's like moon landing level coverage, and then you've got him calling him a traitor, Boris Johnson, Democrats want The espionage act to be used.
01:32:54.000 I mean, this is shameful.
01:32:56.000 This is hysterical.
01:32:57.000 This is, what is your view as someone that's researched what freedom is about, academia, all of this.
01:33:04.000 I mean, this is, this is, and then the Putin interview was really, I mean, I thought him just kind of giving up saying, we'll never be friends.
01:33:14.000 You never want to stop.
01:33:15.000 And basically we're never, you're never going to dominate us.
01:33:18.000 So that's the way it is.
01:33:19.000 Yeah, I find the reaction to Tucker revealing.
01:33:24.000 For one thing, I know Tucker.
01:33:27.000 And I quite like him.
01:33:28.000 He's a very decent guy, and I know... Oh, when you're in person, you pick up 10 Times Stronger than we see on TV.
01:33:34.000 This is a real Santa Claus type.
01:33:36.000 This is a sweetheart.
01:33:37.000 Well, like you, he is a conservative who loves other Americans, even who don't share his ideology.
01:33:46.000 He very much appreciates nature and wants to see it protected.
01:33:49.000 So, you know, as far as I can tell, this is the real deal.
01:33:55.000 And, of course, The fact of a journalist going to interview a foreign leader who is in many ways hostile to the U.S.
01:34:05.000 and to the West, that is perfectly in keeping with the principles that make the West work.
01:34:11.000 Kennedy talked to Khrushchev.
01:34:12.000 We didn't blow ourselves up.
01:34:13.000 Right.
01:34:14.000 So this is just simply a matter of holding somebody to a different standard because it allows you to tear them down.
01:34:21.000 Um, you know, I don't know what to make of what Putin said.
01:34:25.000 I did find it, uh, there was something interesting about how different culturally his approach to this interview was.
01:34:33.000 You know, it was obviously mired in, you know, historical questions of, in my opinion, limited relevance to... He was arguing his legal right, you know, because this is ours, instead of using the opportunity.
01:34:48.000 Right.
01:34:49.000 But nonetheless, in terms of whether there's anything questionable about Carlson going there to interview him, no, I'm glad he did go there to interview him because we need to know, even just need to know what Putin sounds like to himself.
01:35:02.000 That's useful information from the perspective of protecting ourselves from Putin.
01:35:06.000 Exactly.
01:35:07.000 And boy, wasn't he paradox to see Joe Biden, who can't even string a sentence
01:35:12.000 together, versus Putin.
01:35:13.000 You got, whether you love Putin, hate him, or neutral, this guy runs a nuclear power,
01:35:19.000 this guy's in charge.
01:35:21.000 You're talking to the leader, and this guy knows what he's talking about.
01:35:23.000 Whether you agree or not, this guy's not an idiot.
01:35:26.000 Right.
01:35:27.000 I mean, you know, it's a fact-finding mission, and he was doing the job of a journalist,
01:35:31.000 and it was refreshing to see it.
01:35:33.000 So I think the controversy over it is entirely synthetic and just designed to tear somebody down.
01:35:40.000 But it also goes to the incompetence, because the Streisand effect... I'm not a rocket scientist, folks.
01:35:45.000 I'm like, hey, Tucker, it's great you're being attacked.
01:35:47.000 If we'd done this bigger, if they'd have just shut up, it would have had 20 million views.
01:35:51.000 Right, they did turn it into a phenomenon.
01:35:54.000 So why aren't they smart enough to see, first order, you demonize Tucker, you're discredited, it only makes him bigger, and the interview is 20 times bigger?
01:36:02.000 Like, a fool would know that!
01:36:03.000 Well, so I actually think this goes to another set of questions.
01:36:08.000 So I, as a COVID dissident who watched us outfox the official narratives and those who were spreading it, I think a lot about the force that we're up against.
01:36:22.000 And my model, which I did talk about on my first interview with Tucker a couple months ago, is that we're up against something that I call Goliath.
01:36:32.000 And Goliath is partly built of a cabal or several cabals, and it's partly an emergent phenomenon.
01:36:42.000 It is ferociously powerful, but it's also stupid.
01:36:47.000 It is relatively easy to beat if it is not on territory where it is dominant.
01:36:52.000 And so this means a couple things.
01:36:55.000 One, it means those of us who are fighting that force should always keep in mind that getting Goliath on our territory, not its territory, is the way to beat it.
01:37:05.000 You can beat it easily if it's off its footing.
01:37:09.000 That's why we marched into a trap on January 6th.
01:37:11.000 We went into Goliath's territory.
01:37:13.000 Right, exactly, and it was scripted.
01:37:16.000 So the fact that Carlson, like you, like Joe Rogan, has established an outpost that is not supposed to exist, right, an unsanctioned kind of media, that's not Goliath's territory.
01:37:33.000 And in fact, Goliath made the terrible error during COVID of imagining that Off-brand media didn't matter when in fact it mattered ever more as people Detected that what they were getting on the mainstream channels was not true and in fact was capable of harming them They started listening to other people who were making sense and piecing it together.
01:37:54.000 And so in any case I think what's going on is is that Carlson powerfully demonstrated that you could actually take the off-brand media and you could start doing the job that a newspaper might once have done with a newsroom full of reporters traveling the world, that sort of thing.
01:38:12.000 Wow, I'm so impressed, man.
01:38:14.000 That's why I love your podcast, because you say things in a really slick way.
01:38:18.000 I'm sitting at home thinking this.
01:38:19.000 I'm like, Tucker is taking real journalism for the first time and bringing it to the new space.
01:38:28.000 No one trusts the old system, but that was an old thing for real journalists and real reports.
01:38:31.000 But they've so wrecked themselves, no one believes it.
01:38:33.000 Even though they said the sky was blue or the oceans, you know, wet.
01:38:37.000 And so Tucker's actually going into the new independent media that is the new dominant force and restarting real journalism.
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01:41:45.000 Interestingly, I think that is creating a, it is taking a kind of institution that came about in the podcast space that got kicked into high gear over COVID, and it's moving it to the next level, which actually reflects, I was recently in the Czech Republic, and I was thrilled to find That the values that I consider values of Western civilization are alive and well in the Czech Republic in a way I wasn't expecting to see.
01:42:16.000 And anyway, I was trying to piece together why this was, did the Iron Curtain protect this spirit in the Czech Republic from Forces in the market that have taken it apart here at home.
01:42:31.000 In any case, I was thinking about Václav Havel, the leader of the Czech Republic, and I was alerted that there was another Václav Benda, who I hadn't heard of, who actually makes this argument that the way To win this battle is to build parallel institutions.
01:42:50.000 So I wonder if that's not in effect what we're watching is, okay, if the media is going to refuse to report the news, then we're going to build it outside.
01:42:59.000 If the universities are going to refuse to educate inside those structures, then we're going to do it outside on the internet, right?
01:43:06.000 That's what's happening is the parallel institutions are rising to displace the feeble, broken, corrupted institutions that refuse to function.
01:43:14.000 That's perfectly said.
01:43:15.000 That's absolutely true.
01:43:18.000 Exactly.
01:43:19.000 Nietzsche said, that which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
01:43:23.000 And if you look at segregation, it was a horrible crime.
01:43:25.000 Jim Crow, terrible.
01:43:27.000 My dad grew up in East Texas and he said, no, that when I was a kid, the black people had better hotels or better as good a restaurants, everything because they were suppressed.
01:43:36.000 They then had built their own thing.
01:43:39.000 And so we're not defending those institutions.
01:43:41.000 We're simply saying that because they were under communism suppression.
01:43:45.000 They'd already kind of been at the bottom, then they come out of it, but they're still not Western, so they weren't infected by the neoliberal corporate, you know, mind control, and so they still had kind of that suppressed instinct of freedom left, and that was soil for it to sprout from.
01:44:01.000 Absolutely.
01:44:02.000 And it also means that they are in a position, potentially, to save the world from what's taking place in the World Health Organization.
01:44:13.000 The World Health Organization is involved in effectively rewriting the rules in preparation for some sort of pandemic rematch.
01:44:22.000 That was my next question for you.
01:44:25.000 Right here, Bill Gates planning, overhead shot guys, real quick, that was my next question.
01:44:28.000 You read my mind here.
01:44:29.000 We're simpatico.
01:44:30.000 Bill Gates planning for Pandemic 2, complete with new vaccines administered from a little patch.
01:44:35.000 So they're saying, Ted Rose is saying it's imminent, so speak to that.
01:44:39.000 So the World Health Organization is cryptically Writing the rule set that would have allowed Goliath to win the COVID battle, where Goliath ended up embarrassed by those of us on the outside exposing the lies that were being told.
01:44:56.000 So they see the last four years as a war game?
01:44:59.000 Well, I always say that Goliath has to be dragged onto territory that it doesn't know.
01:45:05.000 But it now knows.
01:45:06.000 COVID taught it what podcast space was.
01:45:08.000 It taught us what the alternative media could do.
01:45:11.000 And so Goliath is now learning that lesson.
01:45:14.000 And Goliath is trying to build the rules that would allow it to win COVID if it had it to do over.
01:45:20.000 So that's flowing through the World Health Organization.
01:45:24.000 It will be voted on in May.
01:45:26.000 There are two things.
01:45:27.000 There is a pandemic preparedness treaty and international health regulations, and they are absolutely diabolical if you read the content of them.
01:45:36.000 Oh, I've read it.
01:45:37.000 It's scary.
01:45:38.000 It's terrifying and I mean it includes insane things like the right of the World Health Organization to mandate not only vaccines but gene therapy to redistribute medical technology.
01:45:51.000 So imagine that you know instead of the battle over ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine that we saw that the WHO could just dictate that those things be moved somewhere else and you would have no access to them.
01:46:01.000 So all of those... So it's a biomedical corporate It is.
01:46:06.000 And it really looks like they're looking for a rematch.
01:46:11.000 So we have to derail that thing.
01:46:13.000 By the way, you convinced Tucker of this, and I'm not saying I'm smarter than Tucker, he's smarter than me in most ways.
01:46:18.000 He's like, come on, Alex, we were talking on the phone like six months ago.
01:46:21.000 And when I saw him like four months, three months ago, he goes, they're not going to try it again, we just beat their ass.
01:46:25.000 And I said, they want a rematch.
01:46:27.000 Everything I see is it was a war game.
01:46:29.000 And he now says you convinced him.
01:46:33.000 They are looking for a rematch, but the fact is they are now faltering.
01:46:38.000 Because we're on the offense exposing it.
01:46:40.000 We're on the offense exposing it, and folks in Eastern Europe, in fact, are recognizing that they are actually in a unique position.
01:46:48.000 Yeah, they've got prime ministers and stuff calling them all out.
01:46:50.000 Right, in Romania there is a very live resistance movement.
01:46:55.000 Stop interrupting, continue.
01:46:56.000 Well, all I'm saying is... Start over, start over.
01:46:59.000 Look, to me, Western civilization is fundamentally about an agreement to put aside our lineages, our races, and to collaborate with each other on the basis that there are things to be accomplished.
01:47:14.000 And that is the magic that made America as powerful as it was.
01:47:18.000 Goals, not race, religion.
01:47:20.000 Right, exactly.
01:47:20.000 Goals.
01:47:21.000 Outcome.
01:47:22.000 Well, let's put it this way.
01:47:24.000 How successful are you going to be if you have to collaborate only with people who look like you versus how successful will you be if you can collaborate with whoever has the most useful tools to bring to the table?
01:47:34.000 But you've got to have shared goals.
01:47:36.000 Right.
01:47:36.000 If they take the goals away now, it makes it a weakness.
01:47:39.000 With goals, it makes it a strength.
01:47:40.000 Well, I would say those goals are values, right?
01:47:42.000 If we share values and then we collaborate on how to accomplish them, that's powerful and it made America truly great and tremendously powerful.
01:47:53.000 So, America is now compromised by whatever has taken over our political structures, but Folks in Eastern Europe are now beginning to recognize that they hold the values that we once held so dear, and that they're in a position to protect us from things like what's taking place in the World Health Organization.
01:48:13.000 So that's what I'm hoping will happen, is that they will shine, that they will rise to this challenge, and they will derail this diabolical proposal to the good of all of humanity.
01:48:24.000 Wow, well that sounds optimistic and I think it is optimistic, but what do you make just of the cut-and-dry situation in Ukraine?
01:48:32.000 NATO's been defeated, they're doubling down, Putin's not perfect, but clearly they started the war.
01:48:36.000 NATO started it, from my perspective, if you disagree, tell me, nine years ago.
01:48:41.000 And it's one thing to go blow up the Iraqis, and I'm not saying Saddam was perfect, but lie about WMDs.
01:48:46.000 Now you're starting a war with a highly sophisticated civilization that has a thousand year history of being invaded over and over again and doesn't give up.
01:48:54.000 I mean, it's like starting a fight with Mike Tyson in his prime.
01:48:57.000 It's just dumb.
01:48:59.000 So what are they thinking?
01:49:00.000 Well, that's always the question.
01:49:03.000 You have to ask yourself the question, are they just being foolish?
01:49:09.000 Or do they know something we don't know?
01:49:11.000 And I also wonder about How to categorize the force that makes these decisions, right?
01:49:19.000 I see the United States leadership making decision after decision that is obviously terrible for the citizenry.
01:49:27.000 And undermines the establishment.
01:49:29.000 Right.
01:49:29.000 So is that that something has gotten into our system and is inducing us to hurt ourselves?
01:49:35.000 That's possible.
01:49:36.000 Is it just stupidity?
01:49:38.000 That's also possible.
01:49:39.000 So when we pick a fight, You have to ask the question about whether there is an objective we don't know, or whether this is just insanity that has taken over the system.
01:49:53.000 And I really don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that the emergent part of Goliath There are lots of things that can cause people to sign on to bad policy.
01:50:03.000 So, for example, the fact that we had warehouses full of weaponry that meant that we didn't need to buy more.
01:50:12.000 If you can unload that weaponry onto a foreign battlefield, then suddenly the order's flowing.
01:50:17.000 Well, that's what it is.
01:50:17.000 It's a council of different factions who will come and all just agree with each other.
01:50:25.000 Okay, you want to sell more weapons and get rid of your cash, you can start World War
01:50:29.000 III and not think, well, wait.
01:50:32.000 And then blowing up Nord Stream.
01:50:34.000 Now Europe's collapsing.
01:50:35.000 Everybody knows the CIA did it.
01:50:37.000 It is scary.
01:50:41.000 Yes, and I think it's the kind of thing that is very difficult to accomplish if people have a normal relationship with their own mortality and their own progeny.
01:50:56.000 If you love your children, you don't start World War III, even if it makes sense on a balance sheet somewhere to do it.
01:51:03.000 Yes, maybe if you're in an elite position, you'll earn some money that your kids will inherit.
01:51:09.000 On the other hand, you're wrecking their planet.
01:51:12.000 And so that would give people pause.
01:51:14.000 I think you answered the question, Doctor.
01:51:17.000 For 50, 60, 70, 80 years, 100 years with the robber barons, they've been hiring yes men and yes women that'll just do what they're told, but then they've graduated up to the command positions and they're yes men who aren't even war gaming things and it's a runaway train and all they're doing is be engaged in predator activity of just accumulating wealth, not understanding they're undermining the very civilization that would let them spend that wealth.
01:51:47.000 There's something at the core of this dysfunction that is about incompetence.
01:51:53.000 And if you've lived inside a system, if you've been inside the university system, let's say as a scientist as I was, and you've watched that the majority of every department is composed of people who, although they are fully convinced they are engaged in behaving scientifically, are just simply not.
01:52:11.000 They're not good at it.
01:52:14.000 What is it that took something as important as science and hijacked it for purposes presumably mostly economic?
01:52:23.000 What is it that caused us... I mean, look at what we did with the mandates to our own military, right?
01:52:30.000 We inflicted something on the military that drove out all of the people who are likely to stand up... And they turned around and say, sorry, come back!
01:52:38.000 Right, but... We weren't even thinking!
01:52:41.000 We don't know whether what they did was the result of massive stupidity or whether they were trying to create a compliant force.
01:52:49.000 But we know it didn't work.
01:52:50.000 They came back and reversed it.
01:52:53.000 Well, they tried to.
01:52:54.000 You're right, it hasn't reversed the problem.
01:52:57.000 I'm saying they reversed the policy.
01:52:58.000 They reversed the policy, but now people are loathe to join the military because they know that such a policy can come down the pike and it can put them in a terrible...
01:53:08.000 All right, the 10 minutes we have left, I'm a big fan, love you on the show, love seeing you on other shows, and people have been attacking you, we kind of started with this, but maybe we should end with it, about, well, this guy, you know, didn't have a perfect pedigree fighting the New World Order.
01:53:24.000 There's not many people out there that have been doing this 30 years like I am.
01:53:28.000 There's some other great people out there that have done it as well, and we love them to death.
01:53:32.000 Is to learn from other people, and then they learn from me, and then we have a consensus and we fix things.
01:53:38.000 I want to win this.
01:53:40.000 I don't want to sit around and say, this is the most holy of all our people, and then this person was always perfect, and this person, no, no.
01:53:48.000 We need people like the doctor here who is smart, entertaining, popular, who's joined us.
01:53:55.000 When Joe Rogan, known 25 years, he just wanted to have fun.
01:53:59.000 He's been awake a few years, now he's more hardcore than I am.
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01:54:31.000 Tucker came here 11 years ago and said, man, I thought you were cooking wrong.
01:54:34.000 I woke up, you're right.
01:54:35.000 I've influenced him, he's influenced me.
01:54:38.000 I've learned my own personal power of persuasion.
01:54:42.000 Not that I'm the grand poobah or the best guy around, but I've seen the power of debate.
01:54:47.000 I've seen we can win.
01:54:48.000 I've seen we can come together.
01:54:50.000 I know humans are overall good, but this holier-than-thou stuff, folks, is a disease.
01:54:57.000 And it's in the left, where you've got to prescribe to every leftist ideology that's put out by some think tank, and then when that's all agreed to, now there's a new group wanting power over it that makes it even more radical.
01:55:11.000 That is a disease.
01:55:12.000 Can you speak to that?
01:55:13.000 Sure.
01:55:13.000 Yes, I've been watching this and I'm horrified by it because I have the sense that people are fighting over credit at halftime and that they're going to screw up the game.
01:55:23.000 We're going to lose it because we're fighting.
01:55:25.000 They're watching the scoreboard during the game.
01:55:27.000 But they don't get that it's halftime.
01:55:27.000 Right.
01:55:29.000 And the fact is, We all have everything to gain by leveling up together.
01:55:37.000 That's what we should be doing.
01:55:39.000 And, you know, for people to look at Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or me or you and say, oh, they're controlled opposition because they were taken in by, you know, the COVID narrative or something.
01:55:53.000 Or X. Right.
01:55:54.000 The fact is, A, you know, you can start with a cynical position that says nothing anybody ever tells you is right, and yeah, you will not buy any bullshit if that's where you start from, but you also won't be able to detect anything useful.
01:56:09.000 You're not going to leave your house.
01:56:10.000 Right.
01:56:11.000 You're literally, if you just think everything is controlled, it's not.
01:56:14.000 Folks, I'm real.
01:56:15.000 Okay, I'm real.
01:56:16.000 I know I've changed the world with working with you.
01:56:18.000 I know there's good people.
01:56:19.000 I know we can fix this.
01:56:20.000 We've got to.
01:56:21.000 Dammit, there's not just evil.
01:56:23.000 There's not just evil.
01:56:24.000 No, in fact, there are great people who are interested, who share values, and are putting aside ideology, and that is an incredibly powerful thing.
01:56:33.000 So, look, in my case, what I want is I want people to judge my whole record.
01:56:39.000 Was I advocating for people to wear masks?
01:56:42.000 Yeah, I was.
01:56:43.000 I thought that stood a chance of actually reducing the spread of a disease that I thought was more serious than it turns out to be.
01:56:48.000 Out of abundance of caution and when you learned you were wrong, you went public.
01:56:51.000 I changed it.
01:56:52.000 So who cares?
01:56:53.000 And now you're a huge advocate for truth, so who cares?
01:56:55.000 Well, look, there was a little bit of harm done by people wearing masks as a result of my advocating for them.
01:57:00.000 But there was a lot of good done by, A, people watching me wake up to the foolishness of the mask.
01:57:07.000 But doctor, that's what the globalists fear, whistleblowers.
01:57:11.000 They fear people that at first were a little wrong.
01:57:15.000 And if we don't embrace powerful, smart people like you when they join the awakening, no one else is going to do it.
01:57:21.000 Right.
01:57:22.000 Exactly.
01:57:22.000 And so just all I would say is for all of us, just, just judge us based on the net impact we have had.
01:57:30.000 There's no way that this is a limited hangout when we are doing damage to Goliath's narrative.
01:57:35.000 We are revealing what he wants people to believe.
01:57:38.000 I go to the grocery store, I go to church, I see family, and they go, oh, we love that professor, that doctor, that Dr. Brett Weinstein, and he's really great.
01:57:47.000 People, you're a smart guy.
01:57:49.000 You're entertaining.
01:57:49.000 You're great.
01:57:51.000 You can talk about any subject.
01:57:52.000 You're a great guy.
01:57:53.000 And this is something I want to say.
01:57:55.000 I always sat back on air for 30 years in April.
01:57:58.000 And said, I don't think I myself was the best.
01:58:01.000 And I'm doing this, trying to do this.
01:58:02.000 I said, where are all these professional men and women I know?
01:58:05.000 And then I see that I know are smart and know what's going on.
01:58:09.000 Because they were asleep or they were only focused with blinders on, you know, kind of a wormhole, a tunnel vision on what they were doing.
01:58:17.000 But I believe, and I've said this for 25 years, that once things got bad, we would get The professors and the scientists and the researchers on our side.
01:58:26.000 And when it starts to happen and the avalanche is to us, we just literally beat the hell out of Big Pharma.
01:58:32.000 Their stock's going straight down.
01:58:34.000 No one's taking their crap.
01:58:35.000 We're winning.
01:58:36.000 And then we turn into this, this, this.
01:58:38.000 Like Spanish Inquisition or something going around to find out if somebody's a heretic or were they perfect.
01:58:45.000 Folks, the big win is here.
01:58:47.000 We have got to stop because they're ready for a rematch.
01:58:50.000 They're coming in for another attack.
01:58:52.000 We better get together and we better stop it.
01:58:55.000 Yeah, and it is the result in part of this very unfortunate fact, which is the people who are independent minded The Lone Wolves, who actually do see through things early, are often not very good at teaming up.
01:59:09.000 It's a paradox, because collectivists are very good at teaming up, but then a central system can pay them and do it, whereas independent people are some of the best thinkers, but they'll never want to team up.
01:59:21.000 Right.
01:59:22.000 So how do you deal with that paradox?
01:59:23.000 Well, I mean, look, I think a lot of this is solved metaphorically, and what I do is I think in terms of the stories in which We all appreciate this.
01:59:34.000 You know, the Lord of the Rings, or the ragtag fugitive fleet from Battlestar Galactica.
01:59:41.000 And the point is, look, maybe you don't start out with that skill set, but you can develop that skill set, and if you think about it, just quietly to yourself for a moment, you'll realize that the only way we're going to win is if we figure out who to team up with and how to do it.
01:59:59.000 So anyway, that's a skill we can develop and we should be working on it every day because, as Alex just said, the victory is there to be had, but we are going to end up going out of the frying pan and into the fire if we don't figure out how to overcome our tendency to attack each other.
02:00:19.000 Let's talk about the paradox of Elon Musk.
02:00:22.000 Look, I've got Elon's number, I don't mean literally, I mean I've got, I can see the cut of his jib.
02:00:28.000 He's a scientist, he's a promoter, he's a salesman, he's a really smart guy, has incredible energy, and he wants to dominate every scientific development that's out there.
02:00:37.000 He wants to be, you know, the Spradley Sprockets of George Jetson world.
02:00:45.000 He's all over the place.
02:00:47.000 The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us.
02:00:50.000 But if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of "is it pro-human
02:00:55.000 or is it anti-human?" we start to win.
02:00:58.000 And that's why I had the idea for Team Humanity.
02:01:00.000 I brought it up to Elon Musk.
02:01:01.000 He loved the idea.
02:01:02.000 What would you call the debate and discussions about a pro-human future?
02:01:05.000 Just Team Humanity?
02:01:06.000 Yeah, Team Humanity.
02:01:07.000 Absolutely.
02:01:08.000 And so, we have the t-shirt.
02:01:10.000 Team Humanity with a nuclear family, standing against the globalists.
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02:01:33.000 We're told humans are the problem.
02:01:34.000 We're told we're killing the Earth.
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02:01:47.000 But as they mess with him and go after him and try to shut down his companies and make him bend and be their minion.
02:01:54.000 He's come out against him and has done a lot to free up X, has done a lot with his own account, reaching hundreds of millions a day to do good work.
02:02:03.000 So I can sit there and say, that's good work.
02:02:06.000 Now, do I know all his motives?
02:02:08.000 You know?
02:02:08.000 No.
02:02:09.000 I mean, I know myself, I'm a good person, but I have an evil side too.
02:02:12.000 And I sometimes go, are you really being a good person?
02:02:14.000 So I can't judge Elon Musk when I even have problems judging myself sometimes because I'm like 90% good.
02:02:19.000 But also, you know, you have a subconscious that goes on there, but This idea that Elon Musk is working for the establishment when, as you point out, there's a lot of different factions that are like battling over the levers of control.
02:02:35.000 I just don't see as fair.
02:02:37.000 And then, OK, say we don't trust Elon.
02:02:40.000 We've got to see what he does long term.
02:02:42.000 Judge a tree by its fruits.
02:02:44.000 Then don't spend 90% of your time saying Elon's a shill, Elon's a fraud.
02:02:50.000 Say, okay, we don't totally trust you, Proviso, read the fine print, but boost all the great stuff he's doing.
02:02:56.000 Because I look at what he's doing and it's enraging the EU.
02:02:59.000 They're trying to indict him.
02:03:01.000 He's got all these drug stories and all these attacks.
02:03:04.000 I've been through this, but on a smaller scale.
02:03:07.000 He's getting Trumpian level hate now.
02:03:10.000 The globalists, the corrupt, illegitimate, Yeah, and I would add two things to it.
02:03:16.000 Okay, you can't fake that and so I see a huge opportunity here
02:03:20.000 We could lose Musk when he's trying to jump to our camp if we don't embrace him now if he does something wrong later
02:03:27.000 We go hey wait, but if we don't He's trying to jump to us is what I see and if we don't
02:03:32.000 grab him. He's not ours does that make sense yeah And I would add two things to it
02:03:36.000 one Assuming that his story is accurate that he was injured by
02:03:43.000 the mRNA shot And a family member.
02:03:46.000 Right.
02:03:47.000 Two of Joe Rogan's crew.
02:03:49.000 He told me who.
02:03:50.000 That's an old story.
02:03:53.000 Two of the people close to Joe, I mean close, had strokes after it.
02:03:57.000 Right.
02:03:57.000 I'm sorry I'm interrupting.
02:03:59.000 Go ahead.
02:03:59.000 No, no.
02:04:00.000 But my point would be this.
02:04:03.000 If Elon got the shot and was hurt, Then he's not on the list of people who was in the know about the danger of that shot.
02:04:11.000 He said that happened, I believe him.
02:04:13.000 Right, I believe him too.
02:04:14.000 So my point is, this is incompatible with him being some 4-D chess shill.
02:04:22.000 If that story is true, then the point is, he's not on their team.
02:04:26.000 He's, at least sometimes, on our team.
02:04:29.000 He was victimized.
02:04:31.000 Yeah, he was on their team earlier because he was buying the chili.
02:04:35.000 Now he's like, what the hell?
02:04:37.000 His brother got super sick, he got sick.
02:04:41.000 That'll wake you up!
02:04:43.000 Like nothing else, right?
02:04:45.000 They literally injected something into you that makes you ill.
02:04:48.000 But the other thing is what he's done with Twitter And believe me, there's plenty of fault left in Twitter.
02:04:55.000 But what he's done is he has created an outpost of at least much freer speech.
02:05:02.000 And we say on our podcast, zero is a special number.
02:05:06.000 What we mean by that is that you can change these games by simply creating a single entity that departs from the rule.
02:05:15.000 If you have one platform on which you can say what needs to be said, then every other platform has to follow suit because nobody's going to want to be on a platform where they treat you like a child if there's a platform where you can be an adult.
02:05:26.000 Same thing goes for universities.
02:05:28.000 If you have one university that's actually teaching you to think more clearly, then nobody wants to go to any other.
02:05:33.000 It'll change the whole paradigm.
02:05:34.000 It changes the whole game.
02:05:36.000 Same thing goes for newspapers.
02:05:37.000 And so anyway, my point is, Twitter X is better than it was.
02:05:43.000 It is a maverick and it's got infiltrators.
02:05:45.000 He bought this mess.
02:05:47.000 He's done better than I thought he would.
02:05:48.000 He's done better than you would think he would.
02:05:51.000 And what that tells you is he's not, I don't know how complex the chess board that he's looking at is, but he can't be totally on their team because he's created a space where Tucker Carlson can say what needs to be said.
02:06:04.000 I'm not a rocket scientist or a biologist like you, but The hate's legitimate.
02:06:10.000 He's creating waves that even if they kill him tomorrow, God forbid, or shut it down, it's already devastated him.
02:06:16.000 Folks, listen to me.
02:06:18.000 I've been on air 30 years if I've heard you wrong.
02:06:20.000 He's creating irrevocable harm to them.
02:06:23.000 Like you said, this is real.
02:06:26.000 Yeah, I think it is real, and I think we don't know who's working for whom, so the best we can do is say who is actually doing things.
02:06:35.000 And he doesn't!
02:06:35.000 Imagine his job!
02:06:36.000 Double, triple agents, the betrayals.
02:06:38.000 I can't imagine the complexity of what he has to look at, right?
02:06:42.000 It's mind-boggling, and all of us who have never been in his shoes, which is frankly all of us, can't appreciate that level of complexity, so we owe it to him to at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
02:06:53.000 Let's just see what happens.
02:06:55.000 Absolutely.
02:06:55.000 All right.
02:06:56.000 Thank you so much for the time.
02:06:58.000 Amazing doctor.
02:07:00.000 Is there anything else you want to add to people?
02:07:02.000 Yeah, there's one other thing, which is obviously I take a risk by coming here.
02:07:07.000 I appreciate what you do.
02:07:08.000 Oh, I recognize that.
02:07:10.000 You got a lot of courage.
02:07:10.000 You're playing a big ass target on you.
02:07:12.000 Right, but I want to make the point that my ability to be here is something that was carved out by Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson, who took that risk first.
02:07:23.000 And I appreciate their carving out the ability to have this discussion, because at the end of the day, I believe you are a patriot and a very important force in this battle.
02:07:33.000 Well, thank you.
02:07:34.000 Elaborate for people that don't know the specifics.
02:07:36.000 Explain what you mean, they carved it out.
02:07:38.000 Well, they were willing, at the point that it was treated as unforgivable to talk to you, they did it anyway.
02:07:47.000 What was heresy?
02:07:49.000 Heresy.
02:07:49.000 That's a good way of putting it.
02:07:50.000 And so, in any case, I appreciate their courage and their willingness to risk their operations.
02:07:56.000 They didn't have to do that, but they did it because it was the right thing, and it did make it possible for us smaller fish to follow suit.
02:08:03.000 And let's explain that.
02:08:04.000 In this paradox where they created this artificial Alex Jones, 10% of it was my fault.
02:08:08.000 I did do some things that were wrong, but most of it was blown up, exaggerated, all controlled.
02:08:13.000 But if Alex Jones is put up there as the symbol of evil, if he's allowed speech, everybody else is safe.
02:08:20.000 And they, speaking of NATO, I don't know if you saw the document, but NATO said six years ago, we're going to ban Jones and we're going to ban WikiLeaks.
02:08:27.000 And once we do that, well, everybody will follow suit.
02:08:29.000 We'll ban it all.
02:08:30.000 So they admitted that I'm not that important, but I became important when they
02:08:35.000 picked me as the symbol of demonization and thought no one would stand with me.
02:08:39.000 And now that Joe did and Elon and you came here knowing full well what you're doing,
02:08:44.000 it's not that we agree on everything or any of that, unless you get the proviso out, even
02:08:48.000 though we agree on most stuff, they'll lie about something I said and say, "Do you agree
02:08:53.000 It's about agreeing to have a conversation and rediscovering what makes us great.
02:08:58.000 So one more time, tell us about your book.
02:09:00.000 Tell us how we follow you on Rumble and on Locals.
02:09:04.000 The book is A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century.
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02:09:21.000 And please follow me on Twitter, at Brett Weinstein.
02:09:24.000 Brett has one T.
02:09:26.000 I bet the folks at the university jealous of you and your very successful wife that was the most successful professor there.
02:09:32.000 If they weren't thinking one-dimensionally, they'd have kept you around.
02:09:35.000 I bet they're not happy they drove you off the reservation.
02:09:38.000 Well, they drove almost all the students away, too.
02:09:40.000 They are struggling to keep the college open.
02:09:42.000 They might shut down, I heard.
02:09:45.000 I was expecting it to shut down earlier.
02:09:47.000 The state infused the college with a lot of cash to keep it running, but they just simply don't have enough students to justify it.
02:09:54.000 So what happened to the guy that was gunning for you?
02:09:57.000 Uh, he stepped down.
02:09:59.000 They literally... So see, he didn't think of that.
02:10:01.000 It's a Pyrrhic victory.
02:10:03.000 He got you, but he's gone.
02:10:04.000 He's gone.
02:10:05.000 But they, interestingly, they couldn't hire a replacement.
02:10:08.000 They had to hire somebody from inside the college because literally nobody would take the job after he wrecked the place.
02:10:14.000 Which is why war isn't good.
02:10:16.000 People think of war as just military.
02:10:18.000 No.
02:10:18.000 War is messing with people for no reason just because he gives you power.
02:10:22.000 Yeah.
02:10:24.000 Instead of another university, right?
02:10:25.000 It'd be even bigger now.
02:10:27.000 Right.
02:10:28.000 The degree to which they had a college that was special, and it could have been turned into something amazing and very popular, and instead they destroyed it, it is actually a cautionary tale.
02:10:41.000 A metaphor for Earth today.
02:10:43.000 Exactly.
02:10:44.000 We're going to end this with the video, or the footage, of the great Rod Serling's Planner of the Apes ending scene with the late, great Charlton Heston when he learns he's actually back on Earth and they blew it all up.
02:11:01.000 Let's not go there.
02:11:03.000 Doctor, very impressive.
02:11:05.000 I'm a big fan and I love meeting you in person.
02:11:07.000 Thank you so much, sir.
02:11:08.000 Thank you.
02:11:09.000 All right, folks.
02:11:10.000 Great job of the crew coming in on Super Bowl Sunday.
02:11:12.000 And wow, more impressed in person.
02:11:15.000 This guy's awesome.
02:11:16.000 Anybody saying he's a bad guy, you're just jealous.
02:11:20.000 Thank you, Alex.
02:11:20.000 That's true.
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02:11:46.000 Economist, PhD, Kirk Elliott is in studio with us.
02:11:49.000 Dr. Elliott is a great guy, just does a great job, and our listeners love him.
02:11:54.000 I love him too.
02:11:56.000 And so I asked him, he lives in Colorado, to come here when he was on a few weeks ago,
02:12:01.000 when we can do a Saturday commercial-free broadcast and be able to really, really drill into the deep dive
02:12:11.000 on what the real economic numbers are versus what Biden's telling us
02:12:15.000 and what he and other experts believe the trends are and where we're going.
02:12:18.000 We'll then intersperse it and tie it into all the news and other breaking information
02:12:22.000 as we go for the next few hours or so.
02:12:24.000 And then, former Green Beret commander and lawyer and Defense Intelligence Agency operative,
02:12:32.000 Ivan Reiklin was on yesterday, live in studio.
02:12:35.000 He was in a toboggan accident with his kids and blew his leg out.
02:12:38.000 He was in a wheelchair.
02:12:39.000 He traded punches with me.
02:12:44.000 We were wargaming, what if they killed Trump?
02:12:47.000 And that's what you do in the military.
02:12:48.000 I'm not in the military, but I studied this for 30 years, so I'm in the same, you know, bailiwick.
02:12:53.000 That's why I come up with info wars.
02:12:55.000 We were wargaming, what if they killed Trump?
02:12:58.000 And how it would blow up in their face and how horrible it would be, which will make them not kill him.
02:13:02.000 And it got picked up out of context.
02:13:04.000 And I mean, I think this morning I looked around like 5 million views,
02:13:07.000 different versions of it's probably 10 million now.
02:13:10.000 Alex Jones wants Trump dead.
02:13:12.000 And then even some conservatives bought into that because they saw a 30 second clip.
02:13:19.000 Folks, that is... Okay, Secret Service, come get me.
02:13:21.000 No.
02:13:22.000 We were saying you kill Trump like Obi-Wan Kenobi, he gets more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
02:13:28.000 They shouldn't do that.
02:13:29.000 And that's been war game.
02:13:31.000 Just like I could tell them, don't indict Trump a bunch for stuff he didn't do.
02:13:35.000 It'll make you more popular.
02:13:36.000 I mean, that's not rocket science, folks.
02:13:40.000 In the 1970s, they had total control.
02:13:42.000 This is just culture in Nashville over country music.
02:13:47.000 And then four or five people, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, a few others, Chris Christopherson, moved to Austin, Texas, and they said, screw you, we're doing our own music.
02:13:55.000 And it totally changed that whole industry.
02:13:58.000 And by the mid-1980s, five or six outlaw country artists had a bigger market than all of Nashville.
02:14:05.000 You're like, well, who cares about that?
02:14:06.000 Well, it's the same for culture and politics and freedom.
02:14:09.000 Joe Rogan's the most popular, and Tucker Carlson, and everybody sounds like Alex Jones now because it's the truth.
02:14:17.000 And Elon Musk sounds like Alex Jones now because it's the truth and it's popular.
02:14:22.000 So we were explaining that Trump is seen as the outlaw to the system, you know, the Dukes of Hazzard, just some good old boys, doing no harm, but in trouble with the laws since the day they were born.
02:14:33.000 This isn't some point about, okay, Willie Nelson is a great guy, I've been friends with him for decades.
02:14:37.000 This is about...
02:14:40.000 Culturally on something that matters, we're breaking through and we're winning.
02:14:43.000 It's like something like half the main hit movies now, like 48% I was seeing in a big variety or Hollywood Reporter article a few months ago, is Christian movies.
02:14:53.000 Hollywood's dying, but Christian movies are exploding.
02:14:56.000 So we're here saying we're winning the culture war.
02:14:59.000 It doesn't look like that if you just tune into MSNBC.
02:15:02.000 So we've got a lot of potential to rebuild things.
02:15:05.000 We're very close.
02:15:06.000 So when I give you all this negative information and scary information, it's like a roadmap.
02:15:12.000 Kind of like you go to the beach one day and it's 50 mile an hour winds, they got red flags up and say, rip tide, don't get in the water.
02:15:17.000 It's not a negative, scary thing.
02:15:19.000 It's saying, it's not safe.
02:15:21.000 People need to know what we're navigating.
02:15:24.000 So Dr. Kirk Elliott, thank you so much for flying down here.
02:15:27.000 I'm glad you're only a few hours away by planes.
02:15:29.000 You can be here.
02:15:30.000 The listeners love you.
02:15:32.000 I've just had like a 30 minute prelude to all of this.
02:15:35.000 Where do you want to start?
02:15:36.000 Because you've got a lot of preparation.
02:15:38.000 You sent us a lot of documents.
02:15:40.000 I love guests like you that really get your preparation together.
02:15:44.000 Well, there's so much, Alex, and just since the last time that I was here, We talked about bank failures coming and I said, I think we're going to have bank failures 2.0.
02:15:57.000 So with bank failures 2.0, what did I mean about that?
02:16:00.000 Well, we're seeing regional bank stocks just getting crushed, absolutely crushed.
02:16:06.000 So I was doing some research and Zero Hedge did a great article, Alex, about this.
02:16:12.000 And so if you look at the bank stocks, Azora Bank cratering, falling off a cliff.
02:16:20.000 Western Alliance Bank Corp, the article says being clubbed like a baby seal.
02:16:26.000 Oh, my word.
02:16:27.000 Shares of Zions Bank Corp, Comerica, Webster Financial, they're tumbling.
02:16:32.000 Citizens Financial, Regions Financial, South State Prosperity Banksters, Schwab.
02:16:38.000 Schwab.
02:16:39.000 This is not a regional bank.
02:16:41.000 Good grief.
02:16:42.000 So their shares are just crushing.
02:16:45.000 They're falling off a cliff.
02:16:47.000 So when you look at that, now what?
02:16:50.000 So I think what we saw in What we saw with Silicon Valley Bank, Alex, what we saw with Credit Suisse, what we saw with all of those bank failures that we saw last spring, we're starting to see this again.
02:17:07.000 Now, the reason that this is important is why are they crumbling?
02:17:11.000 It was in response to the Fed.
02:17:14.000 So, the Fed has promised, like we talked about on previous shows here, that 2024 was going to be different.
02:17:21.000 We've had all these rate increases over the last year and a half on interest rates to slow down inflation, and what did they say?
02:17:28.000 They said 2024, we've basically tackled the inflation problem.
02:17:33.000 Right?
02:17:33.000 We're winning this battle, and so we're going to start doing rate reductions.
02:17:37.000 And that was my, I'm going to get to that later, but I want you to drill the numbers.
02:17:40.000 Inflation is not conquered.
02:17:42.000 No, so there's two ways, it's important for the viewer to understand this, there's two reasons why you want to look at inflation.
02:17:53.000 Inflation can go up because the economy is growing and it can sustain higher prices and people's wages are going up and so therefore retailers can charge more and blah blah blah.
02:18:04.000 Or, inflation can go up simply because they're printing money like there's no tomorrow.
02:18:09.000 So, what the Fed and the Biden administration is saying, inflation is good, it means the economy is growing.
02:18:16.000 I just saw a video of Jerome Powell a couple days ago stating, look, the economy has never been better.
02:18:22.000 Inflation means that the economy is growing, and you've got jobs that are increasing.
02:18:28.000 I've got so much... And then Yellen separately went, Americans need to know that prices aren't going down.
02:18:34.000 So they're kind of double talking.
02:18:35.000 They're completely double talking, but they're using the definition of inflation that talks about a growing economy, not looking at the definition of inflation that just is simply an increase in the money supply to provide stimulus to everything.
02:18:48.000 There is no growth in that, and I've got Documents here that prove that.
02:18:53.000 So what happened?
02:18:55.000 So last week they decided, hey, we're going to actually just pause interest rates for the fourth time in a row rather than starting to reduce them, which tells us what?
02:19:05.000 It tells us they know they haven't won this battle against inflation.
02:19:08.000 And just a month ago they said they were going to lower them to kind of create a stock market run.
02:19:12.000 Correct.
02:19:13.000 Because in an election year, they want the stock market to boom.
02:19:17.000 Now, I still think that they're going to lower interest rates probably once so they can try to save face, Alex, and say, look, we told you we're going to lower them, so we did.
02:19:25.000 But there's no possible way that I think that we're going to go throughout this year without rate increases because there's problems that they haven't tackled.
02:19:35.000 Number one is there's more stimulus, more spending.
02:19:39.000 They're spending like drunken sailors, and we're going to address that.
02:19:43.000 Number two, the BRICS nations rising up, taking away demand for the US dollar
02:19:49.000 by trading in their own currencies with 70% of the world's population, part of the BRICS nations now.
02:19:56.000 So the demand for the petrol dollar is gone, which means there's no capital inflow into America,
02:20:03.000 When we have debt ceiling, when we have entitlements, when we have Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Women, Infant, Children programs, food stamps, infrastructure, Department of Defense, everything, there's no inflow of capital, which means they're going to have to print money like there's no tomorrow.
02:20:18.000 So here's the problem.
02:20:20.000 We've got they didn't lower rates because they can't because they haven't tackled inflation.
02:20:26.000 Their policies tell us that that's the case.
02:20:29.000 So what happened to these regional bank shares?
02:20:32.000 They start collapsing.
02:20:34.000 Why?
02:20:34.000 Because they needed interest rates to come down because they're facing delinquencies.
02:20:40.000 When you have a series of delinquencies, you go into default.
02:20:44.000 So people aren't paying off their loans.
02:20:46.000 This is a problem.
02:20:47.000 And so what I see coming, and this article was great because there isn't all just regional banks in this.
02:20:54.000 Schwab, Alex, that's huge.
02:20:57.000 One of the largest investment firms in the world.
02:21:00.000 They're on this list of their shares just being clubbed.
02:21:04.000 Right, and so what's this going to mean to the U.S.
02:21:08.000 population?
02:21:09.000 When they see that what should be the safest asset in the world, their bank account, is no longer safe because banks are undercapitalized and possibly going to have another bank run.
02:21:19.000 What happens to society, the fabric of society, when you start to have bank runs?
02:21:26.000 And people don't think that... There's major stress, bigger than we had in 2008.
02:21:31.000 Way more stressed because we have way more debt.
02:21:34.000 Banks are way more undercapitalized now than they were.
02:21:37.000 And I know you're going to walk through all this, but just humor me here.
02:21:40.000 I'm not a rocket scientist, but I've studied history.
02:21:42.000 When you get the type of inflation, where do you think inflation really is?
02:21:46.000 And then they're trying to deny it, but it wrecks Americans.
02:21:49.000 But for poor people in the third world, it's a death sentence.
02:21:52.000 I mean, what's that going to do?
02:21:53.000 Well, inflation really impacts people living at the margin.
02:21:59.000 So when people are living hand-to-mouth, paycheck-to-paycheck, if you lose or miss one to two paychecks and you probably have to file for bankruptcy, these are the people that inflation hits the most.
02:22:10.000 Most of America is living in that at-the-margin threshold.
02:22:14.000 I've seen the USA Today article.
02:22:15.000 67% of Americans are in debt and living paycheck-to-paycheck.
02:22:19.000 Yeah, two-thirds.
02:22:20.000 Two-thirds of America.
02:22:21.000 So when you have this quagmire, you've got rising prices, you've got rising taxes, you've got rising cost of borrowing, that's the kiss of death.
02:22:32.000 That's a recipe for disaster.
02:22:34.000 And this is exactly what's happening under Bidenomics.
02:22:37.000 Now, you also have recession is looming, Alex, because If you hear what Biden is saying, he's saying, we're having a renaissance in manufacturing in America.
02:22:52.000 A renaissance.
02:22:53.000 We're creating jobs.
02:22:54.000 We're booming the economy.
02:22:57.000 And all I see is homeless people everywhere.
02:22:59.000 Everywhere.
02:23:00.000 Absolutely everywhere.
02:23:01.000 But the numbers don't add up to that.
02:23:04.000 The reality is not true.
02:23:05.000 So there's a manufacturing index that talks about Jobs.
02:23:12.000 I'm going to find it here.
02:23:13.000 I've got a bunch of stuff.
02:23:16.000 So what does that index say?
02:23:19.000 This index says, and it was reported by Peter Schiff, and I love a lot of his stuff, dark ages for the US housing and manufacturing.
02:23:29.000 So the manufacturing index shows that 18 out of the past 20 months, the index has been negative, meaning manufacturing jobs
02:23:39.000 have been going away.
02:23:40.000 18 out of the last 20 months, Alex.
02:23:43.000 So the real number is they're going straight down. He says they're doing great.
02:23:46.000 He says they're doing good. And that's a lot of jobs that are being lost.
02:23:49.000 Manufacturing jobs are the bread and butter to the US economy.
02:23:54.000 So what happens when people aren't working?
02:23:56.000 People aren't going to be able to afford to buy houses.
02:23:58.000 So what we're seeing here is a precursor to recession in the manufacturing jobs, meaning recession in the housing market, and that's going to be amplified, literally an amplified recession, which basically means depression coming, economic depression, When the housing market is going to collapse because rising interest rates means people can't afford to buy their houses and you've got lowering wages.
02:24:25.000 So do this for me, in the next hour we're going to roll through all the technicals, all the facts, all the graphs you sent me, all the documents, but just as an American citizen, as an economist, somebody that does this for a living, I know we don't know perfectly where it's going to go or what to predict, but This doesn't look well.
02:24:42.000 I mean, hopefully we get Trump in.
02:24:44.000 He can do some things to try to turn it around.
02:24:45.000 But the black rock of the globalists say we're not open for business.
02:24:48.000 Biden last week just killed liquid natural gas sales from the US, which was our only main export.
02:24:56.000 I mean, it's like holding our head underwater is what it looks like to me.
02:25:01.000 Am I wrong?
02:25:02.000 No, you're 100% right.
02:25:04.000 I mean, so this... Our one main export he's killing.
02:25:08.000 Yeah, and to me this reeks of punitive damages on Texas, right?
02:25:15.000 Well that leaked out of the White House!
02:25:16.000 Yeah, so WhiteHouse.gov, if you go to the White House you can see their fact sheet.
02:25:23.000 I've got it right here.
02:25:25.000 The Biden-Harris administration announced temporary pause on pending approvals of liquefied natural gas exports.
02:25:32.000 So what does that mean in layman's terms?
02:25:35.000 He just put economic sanctions on Americans and U.S.
02:25:39.000 companies to basically harass them.
02:25:43.000 I don't want to just glaze over this.
02:25:45.000 I didn't even know that was in your stack.
02:25:46.000 You gave me a whole other stack here.
02:25:48.000 The magnitude, folks, let's just dig in.
02:25:50.000 The lifeblood is fertilizer, food, and energy.
02:25:54.000 Machines eat energy.
02:25:55.000 Machines eat gas and oil and coal.
02:25:58.000 Okay, the windmills are like 10 percent, they're nothing.
02:26:01.000 And when you do that, that's directly the real economy.
02:26:04.000 So when you cut off energy sales and you say you can't increase generation at your coal plants in the hot summer or the winter, which they've done, and you were going to ban all your gas ranges, and we're going to, I mean, they're literally, if you want to strike people, that's what you do.
02:26:16.000 Because that's the real money, right?
02:26:18.000 That's the real currency.
02:26:20.000 Yeah, so they basically said in this fact sheet from the White House, it's like, because we want to tackle climate change, we're going to put a temporary pause on pending approvals of liquefied natural gas.
02:26:34.000 So like you said Alex, what are we good at in America?
02:26:37.000 We're good at a lot of things, but what we're really, really good at is oil and gas.
02:26:41.000 We're number one.
02:26:42.000 And especially in Texas.
02:26:44.000 It's like you're in a football game with Brady, you know, three, four years ago, he's won the Super Bowl.
02:26:49.000 And they say, you know, we're going to pull Brady out here at the Super Bowl.
02:26:52.000 We're going to pull him out.
02:26:54.000 I mean, that's basically what they're saying.
02:26:56.000 But here's where...
02:26:58.000 This is, the timing of this seems really bizarre to me.
02:27:01.000 Because they've been talking about climate change forever, right?
02:27:04.000 But so why bring it out a few days after the big border crisis when Texas is going after the feds, and they're all fighting with each other at the border, and so what does Biden say?
02:27:13.000 He said, hey, we're going to pause exports of LNG, liquefied natural gas, to Asia, to Europe.
02:27:20.000 So you can't export it anywhere.
02:27:21.000 So this is an elite fighting itself.
02:27:24.000 It's absolutely that.
02:27:26.000 And so what is this going to mean?
02:27:28.000 To me, what he just did is economic sanctions on Americans for really the first time that I can think of.
02:27:33.000 That should be the headline.
02:27:35.000 Instead of sanctions on Iran or Russia or China, they put natural gas sanctions on Putin two years ago.
02:27:43.000 They literally put the same sanctions on Texas they put on Putin.
02:27:46.000 Yeah, I mean, you've been following this stuff for decades, Alex.
02:27:50.000 Usually economic sanctions are basically reserved for political stuff against a rogue terrorist nation, like Iran, like Russia, or whatever.
02:28:01.000 But on our own people?
02:28:02.000 Well, this shows where they're going with the social credit scores.
02:28:05.000 BlackRock's saying we'll control behavior.
02:28:06.000 They're like, oh, you're not doing what we say?
02:28:08.000 We'll just cut your main export off.
02:28:12.000 It's so criminal, it's so ridiculous.
02:28:14.000 It is.
02:28:14.000 So imagine, okay, so everything we're talking about is inflation, they're going to have to print more money.
02:28:19.000 Do you think jobs being lost are going to help matters?
02:28:24.000 No.
02:28:25.000 No, of course not.
02:28:26.000 They can't buy the electric cars now because they have no money.
02:28:28.000 Correct.
02:28:29.000 So look at this possible scenario.
02:28:33.000 So these are millions of jobs that could be lost.
02:28:36.000 According to a Texas oil and gas consultancy group.
02:28:40.000 Millions of jobs.
02:28:41.000 So you have all these people... Because we've cut Russia off, which is like, okay, that'll let the US market... No, he's killed the Russian market, blown up the pipeline to Europe, and is cutting our gas off.
02:28:51.000 Correct.
02:28:52.000 I mean, that is like, I come to your house and you go, why is the power off?
02:28:52.000 Wow!
02:28:55.000 You walk out in the backyard and some dude's taking a hatchet or a club or a jackhammer To the power input to your house.
02:29:03.000 You'd kick their ass.
02:29:05.000 Or you'd call the police.
02:29:06.000 Right.
02:29:06.000 Yeah.
02:29:07.000 So get a load of this.
02:29:09.000 So if people aren't working, what are they going to do?
02:29:12.000 First response is they're going to go to the government and say, I need unemployment benefits of some sort.
02:29:17.000 I need Medicare.
02:29:18.000 I need Medicaid.
02:29:18.000 I need food stamps.
02:29:19.000 So it's cloud and pivot.
02:29:20.000 Collapse the system.
02:29:21.000 Yeah.
02:29:22.000 So they go to the government for help.
02:29:24.000 And what happens when you have all these manufactured layoffs?
02:29:28.000 Right, whether it's in manufacturing like we're seeing, oil and gas, tech stocks, tech companies are laying people off hand over fist for a different reason, but yet same result, people aren't working.
02:29:40.000 So what happens when people don't work?
02:29:42.000 There's no income tax revenues for the government.
02:29:45.000 When people don't work, they're not spending money, which means sales tax revenues come down.
02:29:50.000 So what are they really doing?
02:29:52.000 Well, they're actually creating a Pandora's box, where people aren't working, they're going to the government for benefits, and the government is losing its revenue streams because people aren't working.
02:30:05.000 Just like us pushing Russia into war made people join the BRICS, our government is even destroying themselves.
02:30:11.000 They're destroying themselves, and to what end?
02:30:14.000 I think if you start connecting the dots, Alex, like you're really, really good at, you start to see what is their endgame.
02:30:21.000 I think their endgame is to collapse the financial system because then people will look to them and say, hey, this is so broken.
02:30:30.000 People aren't necessarily going to look at them as the reason why it collapsed.
02:30:34.000 They're just going to look at something collapse and say, fix it.
02:30:37.000 We'll give you anything.
02:30:38.000 We'll give up our freedoms.
02:30:39.000 We'll give you that.
02:30:39.000 We'll give you this.
02:30:40.000 And Klaus Schwab has said, they'll never know we did it.
02:30:43.000 Build back better.
02:30:44.000 Great reset.
02:30:45.000 And then they want to make it so bad, we then go to them.
02:30:47.000 Yes.
02:30:48.000 And what's their solution?
02:30:51.000 What are they going to bring to the table?
02:30:54.000 This is the biggest thing, I think, of this generation because it's a change in the monetary system globally that has been in place since 1944 in Bretton Woods when the US dollar was the world's reserve currency.
02:31:09.000 That power has shifted to the East.
02:31:12.000 World's reserve currency, I believe now, is going to be the BRICS nations.
02:31:18.000 By the way, this isn't your opinion.
02:31:20.000 When you read the EU Central Bank, the British Central Bank, the Russian Central Bank, the Chinese Central Bank, the US Central Bank, they all admit the old system's coming to an end and they're positioning for the new and then our own government's doing the perfect thing you do to kill the dollar.
02:31:33.000 Exactly.
02:31:35.000 So what are they bringing in?
02:31:37.000 Central bank digital currency.
02:31:38.000 Is that going to fix a system?
02:31:40.000 Does it fix inflation?
02:31:41.000 No.
02:31:42.000 It's actually easier to create digital money than it is to create paper money.
02:31:47.000 But it brings control.
02:31:48.000 But it brings absolutely control.
02:31:49.000 This is all about people control.
02:31:51.000 And if you create a system where everybody is scared, where everybody is fearful, where they can't make their payments, and say, hey, government, we will give up our financial freedom, we'll give up our financial privacy for this, And in result, what do you get?
02:32:07.000 Spyware in your bank account, literally.
02:32:10.000 You get ideological-based spending behaviors where they will cut you off from buying or selling if your ideology doesn't match up.
02:32:18.000 And BlackRock says they're going to do that!
02:32:20.000 They said, not just BlackRock, World Economic Forum, Bank for International Settlements, the IMF, the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank.
02:32:30.000 I always wonder why are they so, like they'll lie on the news and say none of this is happening, but if you tune into the UN or the WF, they admit it all.
02:32:37.000 You'll eat bugs, we're taking your kids, we're going to bankrupt everybody, you're going to limit a 200 square foot of coffin apartment.
02:32:42.000 Why do they at one level say it's not happening for the general public, but at their meetings, Well, I think so, and why would they actually say these extraordinary things and people not fight back?
02:32:50.000 Maybe it's because people don't realize that it actually is that bad.
02:32:52.000 leaders and act confidence game but then for the general public they get well
02:32:55.000 they're just plebs don't tell them well and I think so and and why would they
02:33:01.000 actually say these extraordinary things and people not fight back maybe it's
02:33:07.000 because people don't realize that it actually is that bad maybe they think
02:33:12.000 ah this could never happen right we're weren't they oh they said five years ago
02:33:18.000 Now, something like five companies own 80% of the food, and whether it's Tyson chicken or anything, the breading on your chicken now, folks, is cricket protein.
02:33:26.000 They did it.
02:33:27.000 You say, oh, y'all never did that?
02:33:28.000 Oh yeah, you are.
02:33:31.000 I've caught myself buying stuff, because I shopped some of the groceries, and I'm like, holy crap, that's got bug protein.
02:33:36.000 It's got little codes on it.
02:33:37.000 Oh my God, it's just sick.
02:33:39.000 Do you like bugs?
02:33:41.000 No, I mean, chitin's very toxic.
02:33:44.000 Bug protein's not good for you.
02:33:45.000 Not that I'm a health dev, but I can read.
02:33:48.000 I mean, it's bad.
02:33:48.000 My point is, you're absolutely right.
02:33:51.000 They're doing it.
02:33:52.000 They are doing it.
02:33:53.000 And see, sometimes normalcy bias will kill people's portfolios because they... Explain what normalcy bias is.
02:34:01.000 It means if something hasn't happened to you in the past, it's not going to happen to you in the present or in the future.
02:34:07.000 People get used to things.
02:34:08.000 It's like, oh, we've had financial crisis before.
02:34:10.000 Look at 2000.
02:34:11.000 Look at 2009.
02:34:11.000 We recovered.
02:34:14.000 Look at our loss of freedoms like we had during Patriot Act, for example.
02:34:21.000 Well, what did that mean?
02:34:22.000 Well, we're still here, we're still okay.
02:34:24.000 Some people say, ah, things happen and it's all going to be just fine in the end.
02:34:29.000 Like, in investing, it's kind of like, you know, buy and hold forever, right?
02:34:34.000 Things are always going to go up forever.
02:34:36.000 No, they don't.
02:34:37.000 In the long haul, sure.
02:34:39.000 Is the stock market, for example, greater than it was in 2009?
02:34:43.000 Yep.
02:34:43.000 Is it bigger than it was in 2007?
02:34:44.000 But it's following inflation.
02:34:46.000 It's following inflation and there's a better way to do things because if you have an 80% correction like we saw in 2000 when the tech stocks blew, it took like nine years to recover from that.
02:34:58.000 Do you think it would be smarter to kind of watch those intermediate trends, buy low, sell high, lock in those profits and then not wait nine years to recover?
02:35:07.000 Well we know in 2000 and 2008 the globalists got out before too.
02:35:10.000 Yes.
02:35:11.000 They did!
02:35:12.000 So that happened in 2009.
02:35:15.000 This time, I think it's significantly, fundamentally different.
02:35:19.000 Because if you look at 2000... You can feel it's the big one.
02:35:22.000 You just can, because 2000, what was it?
02:35:24.000 Tech stocks.
02:35:26.000 It was a sector-based... No, now they're attacking food, energy.
02:35:29.000 They're deliberately suppressing every sector.
02:35:32.000 Every, every sector.
02:35:34.000 And security, defunding police.
02:35:35.000 I mean, they are really... Borders, wars...
02:35:39.000 political warfare. All of it. And in 2009 what was that?
02:35:44.000 That was subprime lending. That was a sector of the total stock market, right?
02:35:50.000 This time what is this one? This big bubble is a debt-based bubble, which what in our society is funded by debt?
02:35:57.000 Everything. Alex, the stock market...
02:36:00.000 I'm going to shut up.
02:36:01.000 You're making so many great points.
02:36:02.000 I'm just backing you up.
02:36:03.000 Doc, speak to this then.
02:36:04.000 The bubble we're at, why it's the mega bubble, and then also, you're a great sponsor, right?
02:36:09.000 Youngs and listeners love you.
02:36:10.000 You're really smart.
02:36:10.000 I should also say, you've got great gold and silver bullion at great prices, ready to ship to people.
02:36:16.000 We're so blessed to get you.
02:36:17.000 And then I'm like, wow, you're a great talk show.
02:36:19.000 I already knew who you were for years.
02:36:21.000 Please come in here with us.
02:36:21.000 But we also need to also get people prepared and support the broadcast, support what you're doing.
02:36:26.000 Well, thanks for that, but you know, here's... I just love how you've got to be made to plug your company, so... Yeah.
02:36:32.000 Let's just stop now for a minute and plug your company, and then let's get back into the mega bubble we've hit.
02:36:36.000 Okay, so before we get to the big bubble, there is a solution for everybody that's watching.
02:36:42.000 To me, it's...
02:36:43.000 How do you get away from central bank digital currency?
02:36:46.000 You don't want to be a digital slave in their digital world.
02:36:49.000 Tangible assets like gold and silver are perfect for that.
02:36:52.000 How do you get away from a banking crisis that I believe Banking Crisis 2.0 is coming where banks are going to fail?
02:36:59.000 Get out of the banks!
02:36:59.000 Don't have too much money in the banks.
02:37:01.000 But what do you go into if the stock market's overvalued, if the bonds are getting crushed because interest rates are going up?
02:37:06.000 Tangible assets like gold and silver.
02:37:09.000 When you have something that's real, when you have something that's tangible, that you can take delivery of, Alex, this is where safety comes in.
02:37:18.000 This is actually right now at this time in history where growth comes in.
02:37:22.000 And when you can have safety and growth at the same time, it's incredible.
02:37:27.000 Here's a big problem.
02:37:29.000 Not all gold and silver are created equal.
02:37:33.000 If you're watching and you say, I've heard gold and silver ads everywhere.
02:37:39.000 On every single podcast in the Patriot world I've seen gold and silver ads.
02:37:43.000 Okay, there's only a few things that you should buy.
02:37:46.000 It's bullion.
02:37:47.000 So in silver, 100 ounce bars, 10 ounce bars, one ounce silver rounds from the refineries.
02:37:52.000 In gold, one ounce gold bars or kilo bars.
02:37:54.000 That's it.
02:37:55.000 When you have coins, rare stuff, collectible stuff, things with a story, they're always
02:38:01.000 high premiums.
02:38:02.000 I mean, I just saw an invoice from another company from a client who showed it to us,
02:38:09.000 over $900 an ounce for silver.
02:38:12.000 It should be $28 an ounce for crying out loud.
02:38:16.000 That's why people ask why I've not had a gold or silver sponsor in a decade.
02:38:20.000 When Minus Resources got out of the business, who I've been with since 1996.
02:38:26.000 1996, they were a good company.
02:38:28.000 I couldn't find any.
02:38:29.000 They would promise me and say, we're going to sell gold and silver bullion.
02:38:32.000 We've got a few numismatics people that want those.
02:38:34.000 That's a secondary pitch.
02:38:35.000 And then soon as I saw it, I would call and have, and they were pitching me numismatics over price right away.
02:38:41.000 And I'd say, that's it.
02:38:42.000 We're not doing this.
02:38:42.000 That's why it has.
02:38:43.000 And now the market's exploding.
02:38:45.000 I literally prayed about a year ago, God, give me a real gold and silver sponsor that just gives them a decent fee to pay your bills.
02:38:52.000 It gives them a great deal.
02:38:53.000 And so that's why I love your company, and we're getting great reviews from listeners.
02:38:57.000 Well, there's two keys to investing, right?
02:39:01.000 Number one is being in the right place at the right time, and number two, never overpay for your stuff!
02:39:05.000 Ever!
02:39:05.000 And then as a seller, you want to do a thousand transactions.
02:39:09.000 It's like marrying a woman.
02:39:10.000 You want to love her and take care of her and have a relationship.
02:39:12.000 That's how I am with my customers.
02:39:13.000 I don't want to rape them one time, you know?
02:39:15.000 I mean, it's bullcrap.
02:39:18.000 Yeah, it is.
02:39:20.000 Our philosophy as a company is to have a lifetime relationship with our clients, because I'm a relationship kind of guy.
02:39:27.000 So when we can hold a client's hand through the economy, let them know when it's time to buy, sell, reallocate, get out of dodge, do whatever needs to be done, you have to have something that's liquid.
02:39:37.000 This is an important key in gold and silver.
02:39:40.000 Most companies out there, when you look, When you look at their invoices, and if you're out there and you've purchased from them, a lot of them that I'm seeing, $60, $70 an ounce for silver, over $3,000 an ounce for gold.
02:39:55.000 It's like, are you kidding me?
02:39:57.000 See, those kind of things, you have to make a market for them.
02:40:02.000 So what does that mean?
02:40:03.000 When it's time to buy or sell, and we've all seen this, we've all experienced it, so you'll get a call from a gold and silver dealer and they'll say, hey Jane Doe, have I got a deal for you.
02:40:14.000 We just found this like old carriage that tipped over in Nevada way back in the day and there's these gold coins from it and boy they're rare and they're amazing and we can get them to you.
02:40:24.000 But they're not going to last long.
02:40:26.000 They're going to be gone in 72 hours, so you have to act now and we'll give you 5% off, right?
02:40:31.000 Something silly like that.
02:40:32.000 I mean, that means also when you need to liquidate them and lock in profits, the same thing.
02:40:40.000 They have to make a market for it.
02:40:41.000 They have to find somebody else that wants to buy those things because there's not a ready-made market for those.
02:40:47.000 See, when we at our firm, we deal in bullion.
02:40:50.000 Which is a global commodity.
02:40:51.000 It's used for manufacturing.
02:40:53.000 So when we want to lock in a price, we simply call the depository, we lock in the price, and then in a very short period of time, we wire the funds into your account.
02:41:04.000 But the key is, the transaction is done immediately.
02:41:07.000 It's automatic.
02:41:08.000 Right?
02:41:09.000 Because it's a global commodity.
02:41:10.000 There's always demand for it.
02:41:12.000 Whether it's India or China or something where their currencies are out of favor and they need gold or silver or for manufacturing like Sony, Samsung, Tesla, LG, wanting to buy silver for manufacturing, there's always a market for it.
02:41:27.000 So, key to investing, never buy something you have to make a market for because it could be illiquid.
02:41:33.000 Always buy something where there's a ready-made market for it.
02:41:36.000 This is what we focused on For the beginning of our company, I've been doing this since 2002.
02:41:41.000 That's a long time, Alex.
02:41:44.000 I've been doing this since 2002.
02:41:48.000 And I've never seen a client that's actually overcome those high premiums and those things, like ever.
02:41:55.000 I've been doing this for a long time.
02:41:57.000 But in bullion, it's more of a...
02:42:00.000 An immediate answer to when you want to lock in profits, boom, it's done because the market is there globally because it's a manufacturing metal.
02:42:10.000 Now, if any of you out there watching feel like, oh my word, Dr. Kirk, I think I've been ripped off, send us your invoice.
02:42:20.000 We'll look at it, and we'll let you know.
02:42:22.000 Just send it to Ashley at K-E-P-M dot com.
02:42:27.000 That's Ashley at K-E-P-M.
02:42:29.000 That's KirkElliottPreciousMetals.com.
02:42:32.000 And she'll look at it and somebody from my team will call you back and say, we think you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, overcharged, overpriced, and we'll help you kind of try to unwind out of what you think might be a situation where you got ripped off.
02:42:45.000 I mean, we'll look at it for you.
02:42:46.000 This is what we do.
02:42:47.000 Our goal is to help.
02:42:48.000 Why?
02:42:49.000 Because we want a lifetime relationship with our clients And so we'll help you take advantage of that situation to get you in the right place at the right time, grow, thrive, and hopefully have your position be something that you envisioned it was going to be from the jump, right?
02:43:07.000 From the get-go.
02:43:07.000 You invested in gold and silver.
02:43:09.000 Why?
02:43:10.000 Because you wanted to take advantage of the market to go into something that's going to grow, go into something... And just to interrupt you, I'm not an expert like you, but I've been in this almost 30 years.
02:43:20.000 It's always, oh, a sunken ship was found, and they're selling you the gold for $100, $300, $400 more than it's worth.
02:43:31.000 Why not just say, hey, we make a percent here to do this for you.
02:43:34.000 And the key, you said, was because you're selling at the real market price, you can actually get it to them immediately.
02:43:41.000 And it's more liquid because it's not in the numismatic realm.
02:43:44.000 It's a commodity.
02:43:45.000 Right.
02:43:46.000 And so that's why it's so important.
02:43:48.000 Well, that's why you can't just go sell some numismatic you got, and why you almost never get the money you paid for it, because it's a scam, folks.
02:43:55.000 Sure, there are some collector coins that are great, and the ones I would promote would be where, oh, there's a 10% markup because this is rare and numismatic, and I checked the market and knew people really could go sell it for that.
02:44:05.000 Okay?
02:44:05.000 And then I'm like, and by the way, folks, we're making 5% to fund ourselves.
02:44:08.000 Just be honest.
02:44:09.000 People know we got to run this place, do all this stuff, but at the same time, we want to get them a good deal.
02:44:14.000 I want to buy, I want to sell gold and silver to people from where I buy it.
02:44:18.000 It's real simple.
02:44:19.000 That's what I do.
02:44:19.000 And I've not, the industry, I'll be honest, is so freaking corrupt like everything else.
02:44:24.000 I have not even been able to have a sponsor for 10 years, people.
02:44:28.000 We've had five different ones we did deals with and I would promote them for one week and then you would hear the brakes slam on because I don't need that in my life.
02:44:35.000 It's like Tony Montana.
02:44:36.000 It's a fictional movie based on a composite for stories written by a Great Oliver Stone, and it was a real case of something similar happening, where the guy would kill women and men.
02:44:46.000 He wouldn't kill women and children.
02:44:47.000 And at the end, they wanted to blow up a car full of little kids, and he says, I don't need that in my life.
02:44:51.000 I am not going to have that in my life.
02:44:53.000 I want you to get a great deal, and everybody should get gold and silver.
02:44:56.000 It's one of the surest bets out there, and you guys have a great company.
02:45:00.000 How does it work if somebody calls you guys?
02:45:01.000 I don't want to get back into the news, the economy, and I know, I digress, but I'm making you plug your company.
02:45:06.000 If you get in here and you're a sponsor, you don't even do it.
02:45:09.000 You did a damn good job once I made you do it!
02:45:12.000 My goal is to help people, right?
02:45:13.000 And so news is part of that.
02:45:15.000 But it's simple.
02:45:17.000 You just go to KEPM.com forward slash gold, fill out a little form and say, I heard Kirk and Alex talking.
02:45:24.000 It's like, that made a lot of sense.
02:45:26.000 And you just put in some of your information.
02:45:28.000 One of my team, I've got a bajillion schedulers, not a bajillion, like 20, I don't
02:45:34.000 know.
02:45:34.000 We have a lot of staff to make sure that your needs are met.
02:45:38.000 So you'll answer some questions like, "What was it that caused you to want to reach out?
02:45:42.000 What are you trying to accomplish?
02:45:44.000 What are your goals?
02:45:45.000 What are your dreams?
02:45:46.000 What are your fears?"
02:45:47.000 We listen to you and then we will get you scheduled with one of our consultants where
02:45:51.000 we'll map out a strategy for success moving forward using precious metals, bullion, gold
02:45:57.000 and silver, none of this high-grade stuff.
02:45:58.000 And like I talked about, if you have some of those high-grade collectible pieces of junk, which they are, well then we can help you unwind that most of the time and get you into a place of prosperity.
02:46:12.000 The best deal, and sometimes the damage is done.
02:46:15.000 I mean, I talked to an 80-year-old lady once who, she's way too old, unsuitable transaction, paid over $70,000 an ounce for a piece of gold.
02:46:24.000 It's like, what?
02:46:26.000 How in the world are you ever going to get out of this, right?
02:46:29.000 But most people aren't to that extreme.
02:46:31.000 They aren't to that extreme.
02:46:33.000 But with you, it's simple.
02:46:34.000 They can look at the spot gold and call you up, and wow, it's that.
02:46:37.000 Yeah, and this is what we do.
02:46:38.000 Whether you have an IRA, a non-IRA, you want to take delivery of it at home or have it stored because you don't feel safe with it at home.
02:46:45.000 What we're talking about is a physical asset, though, not paper, not a paper proxy, not an ETF, not any of that.
02:46:51.000 And by the way, the work is all on your side.
02:46:53.000 That's why these other companies, too, want to make the quick buck.
02:46:55.000 They're also lazy.
02:46:56.000 There's a lot of work that goes into what you do.
02:46:57.000 A lot, but the client isn't going to see.
02:47:01.000 They're not going to see any of that.
02:47:03.000 We want to make the transition easy and the burden light.
02:47:06.000 Now you have to fill out a couple forms, right, to move the assets from one IRA to another.
02:47:10.000 But my team will do all of the heavy lifting, the light lifting, and the lifting in between.
02:47:15.000 But when it's done, when that's done and the funds are moved... Then it gets way easier.
02:47:20.000 Well, this is where our relationship begins.
02:47:22.000 That's not the end of the story.
02:47:23.000 From that point, we want to hold your hand through the economy, and we'll let you know when it's time to buy, sell, reallocate.
02:47:29.000 Get out of silver, go into gold.
02:47:31.000 Get out of gold, go into silver.
02:47:32.000 Right now, you're saying silver.
02:47:33.000 Right now, it's silver.
02:47:35.000 Massively, 100% pointed into silver.
02:47:38.000 I'm not in gold yet.
02:47:39.000 It's not that I dislike gold.
02:47:41.000 I love it.
02:47:42.000 But silver's outperforming.
02:47:43.000 It's just so much more bullish.
02:47:45.000 It is because it's manufacturing again.
02:47:48.000 It's used way more in construction, right, or manufacturing?
02:47:50.000 In manufacturing, I mean, it's used in electronics.
02:47:53.000 It's used in fuel cell technology.
02:47:55.000 It's used in solar.
02:47:57.000 You know, this is where we can take some of the globalist green agenda and say, all right, what do they need for their EV and their solar stuff?
02:48:05.000 And let's be honest, that is what we're doing.
02:48:06.000 Like, I don't go by defense stocks, that'll be part of the murder.
02:48:09.000 But when it comes to silver, this is being put into everything, so why not follow the trend?
02:48:13.000 We might as well.
02:48:13.000 I mean, we want to be wise stewards of what God's given us.
02:48:16.000 We want to buy low, sell high, be wise, have discernment, and sometimes it just means thinking outside the box.
02:48:24.000 What I like about you is you never say, oh, gold could go to 10,000 ounces or silver to, you know, 500, but gut level, just as a private person, man to man, with this inflation, it's not going, it's going to get worse.
02:48:35.000 How high do you think gold and silver are in like two years?
02:48:38.000 Well, it's pure speculation.
02:48:40.000 Yeah, I mean I'm not God and I don't control the markets, but when you look at what silver did in 2011, 2010-2011, it went from $12 an ounce to $48 an ounce in like a summer and a fall.
02:48:52.000 I mean it was, that's like what, 400% growth during that time?
02:48:56.000 So, similar fundamentals to what we're seeing today.
02:48:59.000 Unsustainable debt, inflationary pressures, political chaos, geopolitical conflict, low inventory at the COMEX.
02:49:05.000 So, similar things.
02:49:07.000 You follow that historical trend.
02:49:10.000 The same climate.
02:49:11.000 The same climate and we're starting at 20, let's call it 25.
02:49:13.000 Well that should bring it to 75 to 100 in pretty short order.
02:49:18.000 Now, there's economists out there who are saying, well, with absence of manipulation, you should see silver at $600 to $2,500 an ounce.
02:49:28.000 It's like, okay, how do they come up with that number?
02:49:32.000 So, when you look at demand, this is just how the markets work.
02:49:36.000 This is how business works.
02:49:38.000 So let's say that silver is extinguished at the COMEX depositories and you're Sony, Samsung, Tesla, one of the big manufacturers that need it.
02:49:46.000 And you have a small amount of silver in every LCD TV, every electric vehicle, whatever you're selling that has electronics in it.
02:49:54.000 Do you care what the price of silver is if you need it to finish the car?
02:49:58.000 No, you'll pay whatever you need.
02:49:59.000 You'll pay whatever you need.
02:50:00.000 And this is where I'm not concerned about silver running out.
02:50:03.000 People say, "Kirk, if silver runs out, is this going to be bad for us?"
02:50:06.000 It's like, no, this is going to be great for us.
02:50:08.000 Obviously.
02:50:09.000 Because when silver runs out, which is running desperately low.
02:50:12.000 People are worried it's going to run out.
02:50:13.000 That's going to make it explode.
02:50:15.000 It'll make it explode.
02:50:15.000 Not hard of supply and demand, folks.
02:50:17.000 Because, yeah, let's say that you're Tesla and you say, well, silver is $25 an ounce.
02:50:21.000 We need it.
02:50:22.000 We can't get it.
02:50:22.000 We'll offer $40.
02:50:23.000 Or we'll offer $80.
02:50:25.000 Or we'll offer $120.
02:50:26.000 They don't care because they're going to pass that on to the consumer.
02:50:29.000 Right, so this is where when you own what they need, and it starts to run out, which it is starting to run out.
02:50:36.000 I can also read the news myself.
02:50:38.000 Universities, institutions, investors, governments are hoarding the living hell out of it.
02:50:43.000 They're buying it up as fast as they can, and gold too, so they're also going crazy for gold.
02:50:47.000 The central banks are going after gold like there's no tomorrow.
02:50:51.000 So they may poo-poo gold and silver and say, oh, you want central bank digital currency, you want our paper version, we can use interest rates, we can use money creation monetary policy to stimulate the economy, slow it down, do this and that, and we're really good at it.
02:51:05.000 No, you've proven over the decades that you're horrible at it and you create boom and bust cycles and you have these inflationary pressures and And what are the big central banks doing?
02:51:14.000 They're riding it up and down.
02:51:15.000 Yeah.
02:51:16.000 And so, so what are...
02:51:17.000 They don't want prosperity for their own people.
02:51:18.000 No, they don't.
02:51:19.000 And what are the big central banks doing?
02:51:21.000 They're buying gold not by the ounce or by the pound or by the ton, but literally, Alex,
02:51:25.000 by the hundreds or thousands of tons at a time.
02:51:28.000 Yeah, they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
02:51:31.000 The Chinese Central Bank has over 5,000 tons of gold.
02:51:36.000 The European Central Bank has over 10,500 tons of gold.
02:51:40.000 The Fed has over 8,500 tons of gold.
02:51:42.000 Russia has over 1,000 tons of gold.
02:51:45.000 India has over 600 tons of gold.
02:51:47.000 But even universities like UT are secretly buying it.
02:51:50.000 It's come out.
02:51:51.000 Most, if not all, of their endowment fund is in gold, stored at the vault that the state of Texas built near Dallas.
02:51:59.000 It's like, wow!
02:52:00.000 So what does that tell us?
02:52:02.000 Why is UT, one of the most powerful universities in the world, if not probably the biggest, what are they completely in gold for?
02:52:09.000 Well, they're probably not stupid, folks.
02:52:11.000 No, they've got a bunch of professors there, right?
02:52:12.000 And a bunch of wealthy people who understand that our global economic system is failing.
02:52:19.000 Well, the Chinese are doing it, right?
02:52:20.000 I interrupted.
02:52:21.000 Go ahead.
02:52:21.000 No, the Chinese are doing it, too.
02:52:22.000 So you said global financial system failing.
02:52:25.000 I interrupted.
02:52:25.000 Go ahead.
02:52:25.000 No, global financial system failing.
02:52:28.000 So here's where, what are they saying?
02:52:31.000 Don't listen to what they say.
02:52:33.000 Watch what they do.
02:52:34.000 I mean, you are so good at that, Alex, of telling all this news that you've got on your desk.
02:52:39.000 It's like, don't listen to what they say.
02:52:40.000 Watch what they do.
02:52:41.000 Because actions speak louder than words.
02:52:43.000 So when they're buying gold by the thousands of tons, What does that tell us?
02:52:48.000 They think it's going to go up.
02:52:49.000 But you're pitching me silver, which I get is the one that's going to have the biggest growth rate.
02:52:53.000 Why are the elites obsessed with gold?
02:52:54.000 They're getting silver too, but why are they just... Because you can't really back a currency with silver because it's not high enough cost per ounce.
02:53:03.000 Gold, gold.
02:53:04.000 So they're betting on a new system that's going to be gold.
02:53:07.000 Yeah.
02:53:07.000 But here's where I want more gold down the road.
02:53:10.000 So if we leverage silver right now because it's outperforming.
02:53:14.000 You get the money for gold.
02:53:15.000 So here's the thing.
02:53:16.000 Let's say here's our strategy that we implement with all of our clients.
02:53:20.000 We go into silver now because it's outperforming.
02:53:22.000 Let's say that over the next 18 to 24 months, silver triples the rate of growth of gold.
02:53:28.000 What would I do?
02:53:29.000 I would sell my silver and if it tripled the rate of growth of gold and we go into gold,
02:53:32.000 I just got you three times as many ounces of gold then as what I could afford.
02:53:37.000 And then we ride up gold and then once gold peaks we could go back into silver, go into
02:53:41.000 something different.
02:53:42.000 Our goal is to make sure you're in the right spot.
02:53:44.000 Exactly.
02:53:45.000 Are there any other metals you think are really important?
02:53:47.000 Those two big guys.
02:53:48.000 Yeah, just those two.
02:53:49.000 They're the bread and butter because they have high volume.
02:53:51.000 There's a lot of trading.
02:53:53.000 They're the meat and potatoes.
02:53:54.000 Now people say, well, what about platinum?
02:53:55.000 What about palladium?
02:53:56.000 What about rhodium?
02:53:57.000 It's like, eh, too much thinly traded markets controlled by Russia and South Africa.
02:54:02.000 Too rigged.
02:54:03.000 Way too risky.
02:54:03.000 Too risky.
02:54:05.000 Well, China, how did China get positioned for 97% control of rare earth minerals?
02:54:09.000 Because I would say that'd be a great investment, but it's all control.
02:54:12.000 You never want to invest in anything that's controlled, because you are out of the equation at that point, and logic gets kicked out the window, which is why I like those markets of gold and silver.
02:54:23.000 Now, here's something really cool, Alex, about silver.
02:54:26.000 I'm going to shut up now. Go through the rest of your documents.
02:54:29.000 Yeah, about silver. So we talked about this briefly yesterday.
02:54:34.000 But there was this article from Dystopia to Utopia and Gold and Silver.
02:54:38.000 So this is why one of the reasons why we're in silver right now.
02:54:43.000 So there's been massive manipulation.
02:54:45.000 All of your viewers are saying the banks are manipulating everything.
02:54:48.000 BlackRock is, you know, the big hedge funds.
02:54:50.000 Yes, they have been.
02:54:52.000 I'm not discounting that.
02:54:54.000 But you look at where silver has been.
02:54:56.000 Since the year 2000.
02:54:57.000 2000 it was like $4.60 an ounce, give or take.
02:54:59.000 Three and a half years ago it was $11.91.
02:55:00.000 Fifteen months ago it was $17.97.
02:55:01.000 Today it's over $23.
02:55:02.000 So $17.97 to $23, that's up over 30% in the last year, year and a half.
02:55:03.000 it was 1191, 15 months ago it was 1797, today it's over 23.
02:55:09.000 So 1797 to 23, that's up over 30% in the last year, year and a half.
02:55:15.000 What else is performing like that?
02:55:17.000 You look at what it's done since the last three and a half years, from 1191 to 23, that's almost doubling, up like 100%.
02:55:26.000 That's averaging over 30% a year.
02:55:28.000 But it's up over 500% from the year 2000, and people say, well, it's over.
02:55:32.000 It's risky.
02:55:33.000 The numbers don't prove that.
02:55:35.000 That's gaslighting.
02:55:35.000 Yeah, so here's where those numbers are amazing.
02:55:39.000 People would like those numbers, right?
02:55:41.000 So you look at what these charts are doing and silver being manipulated.
02:55:47.000 These prices reflect manipulated silver.
02:55:51.000 So this is even a suppressed market?
02:55:52.000 This is a suppressed market.
02:55:53.000 Explain how to use negative shorting.
02:55:54.000 Okay, so manipulation comes when BlackRock, for example, who owns the SLV, which is the silver ETF, they'll go to JPMorgan Chase, which is the custodian of the physical silver that's supposedly backing the ETF, and they say, hey Chase, we just sold 10 million shares of our ETF, we need you to buy 10 million ounces, or whatever, however the mechanics work.
02:56:20.000 So what is JPMorgan Chase going to do?
02:56:23.000 They're going to say, let's drive the price down if we have to buy all these ounces, because we want to buy low.
02:56:28.000 We don't want to buy high.
02:56:29.000 And they have the ability to do it by shorting the market.
02:56:32.000 So you issue naked shorts, which means you can short something that you don't own.
02:56:36.000 Illegal for you and I to do that, but not for big banks.
02:56:39.000 So they drive the price down.
02:56:41.000 They gobble up physical silver.
02:56:42.000 That demand causes the price to go up, and they say, oh, the price is too high, let's issue more short contracts.
02:56:47.000 They buy up more physical silver.
02:56:49.000 The demand causes the price to go up.
02:56:51.000 This has been going on and on and on and on for a long time.
02:56:53.000 Because of inflation, they're losing their control.
02:56:55.000 They're losing their control.
02:56:57.000 They're absolutely losing their control.
02:57:00.000 And so now, what did they do two weeks ago?
02:57:03.000 This is, I think, the most important story in silver Ever!
02:57:07.000 I mean, I've been doing this for decades, Alex.
02:57:08.000 This is the most important thing for silver.
02:57:11.000 Bullish activity ever.
02:57:12.000 So, in one week, in seven days, 50% of all the net short positions globally were unraveled.
02:57:23.000 They went away.
02:57:24.000 They're extinguished, right?
02:57:25.000 This is according to the report by Sprott Money.
02:57:28.000 So, what does that mean?
02:57:29.000 Why?
02:57:30.000 What happened?
02:57:30.000 Slow down here.
02:57:31.000 I'm going to stop.
02:57:33.000 You said this briefly yesterday, but let's just slow down.
02:57:36.000 I do this too, it's so big we just throw it out there.
02:57:39.000 Record levels of them killing their shorts.
02:57:43.000 Explain that slowly because we're not all economists like you.
02:57:47.000 Doc, explain this, how big this is.
02:57:49.000 Okay, so if you have a short position active, you make money and a lot of money if the price continues to go down.
02:57:58.000 If the price of whatever you have a short position on goes up, you lose money hand over fist.
02:58:04.000 And it's not just a dollar for dollar loss.
02:58:07.000 It's leveraged.
02:58:08.000 So when you have a leveraged loss and you've got all of these, I mean literally, a global market with all these short positions, what are they expecting?
02:58:19.000 They're expecting silver to go through the roof.
02:58:21.000 How do I know?
02:58:22.000 Because 50%, 5-0% of all short positions were unwound in a one week span, just a couple weeks ago.
02:58:32.000 So that tells me they think that silver is going to go through the roof.
02:58:35.000 Because they have to get rid of their short positions because if they don't, they're going to lose so much money that you couldn't even comprehend it.
02:58:42.000 So this to me is the biggest news in the silver market ever!
02:58:46.000 Literally ever!
02:58:48.000 And what happened last week?
02:58:50.000 So silver was like at $22.13.
02:58:51.000 Today it's up over $23.20-ish.
02:58:51.000 It went up over a dollar in one week.
02:58:53.000 Today it's up over 2320-ish.
02:58:56.000 It went up over a dollar in one week.
02:58:57.000 That's almost a 5% move in one week.
02:59:01.000 So multiply that out for a year.
02:59:04.000 That's over a 200% gain for a year.
02:59:06.000 This is the trend, the pace that we are on.
02:59:10.000 So what do they know that we don't know?
02:59:13.000 Why did they unravel their short positions to such a large amount so quickly?
02:59:18.000 It's because everything that we're adding up here, the inflationary pressures, the Fed basically saying that we can't lower interest rates yet.
02:59:28.000 We're going to have to pause because coming down the road, we know that inflation is coming and we're going to have to keep raising interest rates to keep slowing down inflation.
02:59:38.000 But they know that they haven't tackled inflation.
02:59:39.000 They couldn't lower interest rates yet.
02:59:41.000 They had to pause them and keep them the same, which is what they've done the last four policy meetings.
02:59:47.000 They've kept them the same.
02:59:48.000 So interest rates are going to have to climb to slow down inflation, right?
02:59:53.000 So what does that tell us?
02:59:54.000 Inflation is coming.
02:59:56.000 What happens to tangible assets like gold and silver during inflation?
03:00:00.000 They go up because they're things.
03:00:02.000 Things go up with inflation.
03:00:04.000 I don't care if it's a car.
03:00:05.000 I don't care if it's oil and gas.
03:00:06.000 I don't care if it's groceries.
03:00:08.000 Everybody watching this, you're going to know it's like, yeah, groceries are going through the roof.
03:00:12.000 We're not making ends meet.
03:00:14.000 It's hard to even maintain a budget in our house.
03:00:16.000 Prices are going up.
03:00:17.000 Inflation is there.
03:00:19.000 Now, Alex, inflation has been understated for years, since 1996 actually.
03:00:28.000 So everybody watching this, back after Carter was president, if you're old enough to remember that, he destroyed the economy.
03:00:37.000 One of the worst financial presidents ever.
03:00:41.000 Massive recession, dollar was collapsing.
03:00:44.000 Inflation was at 14.3 percent.
03:00:46.000 Nobody was working.
03:00:47.000 They were rationing at the gas pumps.
03:00:49.000 You had OPEC going crazy.
03:00:50.000 And it's like, oh my word, this is bad.
03:00:53.000 So Reagan came in with Paul Volcker, who was chairman of the Fed at the time, and said, hey, we can fix this runaway inflation.
03:00:58.000 We've got to jack up interest rates to 18 percent.
03:01:01.000 Right?
03:01:01.000 So in 1983, interest rates were 18 percent.
03:01:04.000 If you bought a house back then, 30-year mortgage was 18 percent interest rate.
03:01:09.000 Why?
03:01:11.000 This is, as an economist, as a PhD economist, I always have to ask why.
03:01:14.000 It was because inflation was 14.3.
03:01:17.000 The only way to slow down inflation with interest rates is to actually have the interest rates be higher than the inflation rate.
03:01:24.000 And that's what they did.
03:01:26.000 So, fast forward to 1996.
03:01:28.000 President Clinton at the time commissioned the Boskin Commission in Congress to say, hey, we've got way too many cost of living adjustments going out.
03:01:36.000 We have to understate inflation.
03:01:38.000 We have to artificially lower it.
03:01:40.000 So this is not their words, but this is what the actions did.
03:01:42.000 It's like, we've got to stick it to the American public.
03:01:45.000 Everyone that voted for us, we've got to lower the money that we're paying to them so the government can make more money.
03:01:53.000 So they artificially lowered inflation.
03:01:55.000 This is very important because it applies to what we're doing today.
03:01:59.000 So with substitution bias, with all these different price adjustments, they figured out how they can lower inflation.
03:02:06.000 So when I was doing my first dissertation, I developed a new methodology for measuring inflation because the way that the BLS does it, it's broken.
03:02:16.000 So, substitution bias.
03:02:18.000 Let's say the CPI, the Consumer Price Index, is a basket of goods, 30 goods.
03:02:23.000 Let's say steak is one of those goods, like, you know, filet, prime rib, whatever, steak.
03:02:29.000 So, if the price of steak goes up 30%, they say, nuts, we don't want this in there anymore.
03:02:35.000 Let's substitute steak with hamburger.
03:02:38.000 Hamburger is 40% less than steak.
03:02:41.000 So, what did they say happened to the price of steak?
03:02:43.000 They didn't say it went up 30%.
03:02:45.000 They said the price of steak came down 40% because they substituted it with hamburger.
03:02:50.000 That means that the inflation numbers that we're seeing are completely bogus, completely manufactured, but if you apply the same metrics that we had in 1983 to today without Clinton's substitution bias, we're hovering at around 15% inflation, which means I don't believe for a second, Alex, that they're going to stop lowering interest rates because they have to get interest rates higher than... Sure, so they know this is coming, and they know silver is going to go up, so they've stopped shorting it.
03:03:20.000 That's just my layman's term.
03:03:21.000 This is so powerful.
03:03:22.000 When you laid that out the last 20 minutes, I'm going to take this and post it tomorrow on xinfowars.com.
03:03:27.000 This is a no-brainer, it looks like.
03:03:29.000 People are getting into silver, but they don't want to pay over, they want to pay A little fee to get a good deal with you.
03:03:35.000 They need to get silver right now and you're ready to ship it to them.
03:03:38.000 Ready to ship it to them.
03:03:38.000 We drop ship from the depositories.
03:03:41.000 We don't maintain an inventory.
03:03:42.000 We don't carry an inventory.
03:03:44.000 That's how companies go out of business.
03:03:46.000 And that's the only way you're, people that know the business, if you're doing a bunch of numismatic scams, you couldn't do that.
03:03:51.000 You have direct deals as a commodity.
03:03:53.000 You're doing this as a commodity.
03:03:55.000 As physical silver.
03:03:56.000 100 ounce bars, 10 ounce bars, 1 ounce round.
03:03:58.000 That's how you know it's set, folks.
03:03:59.000 It's not a scam.
03:04:00.000 Yeah, drop shipped from the depository directly to your house, directly into your IRA account.
03:04:06.000 People calling you with a little fee, it's for the advice.
03:04:09.000 Yes, it's the cost of ownership.
03:04:11.000 And handling it all.
03:04:12.000 But this is one where, you know, this is one area where we're different than every other firm in the industry, really.
03:04:18.000 When you liquidate, you want to lock in profits.
03:04:21.000 Yeah, but also you're different because nobody's as articulate as you.
03:04:23.000 I think, I literally, I told this a year ago, I said, God, I want to help people with silver and gold, we can't get a real company, give me, and literally, then you, I was like, asking you on as a guest, and somebody else goes, hey, this guy wants to be a sponsor, literally an answer prayer.
03:04:39.000 You're also a theologian, I know.
03:04:41.000 Yeah, it's one of my PhDs in theology, but... Well, that's a whole other subject.
03:04:44.000 We'll hit the minute.
03:04:45.000 Where do you think we are on the timeline?
03:04:46.000 Because it's all being fulfilled, I mean...
03:04:48.000 Okay.
03:04:49.000 That's a whole other subject.
03:04:50.000 A whole other subject?
03:04:51.000 I can answer what I think.
03:04:53.000 We'll do a whole other show on that.
03:04:54.000 But when you liquidate your assets, we don't charge a commission when you liquidate.
03:04:59.000 So whatever the depository pays for metals on the day you want out, you get all of it, 100% of it, because we don't take anything.
03:05:04.000 So operationally, we're different than other firms.
03:05:07.000 Most firms are transactionally based.
03:05:09.000 You make a commission when you buy, a commission when you sell, they forget about you in between.
03:05:12.000 We love the relationship on the in-between.
03:05:16.000 To me, those transactions are the bookends.
03:05:18.000 But there's an 8% cost of ownership when you buy, zero when you liquidate.
03:05:22.000 So what does that tell you?
03:05:23.000 You know exactly what silver has to do to ask for you to break even.
03:05:28.000 It's an 8% growth.
03:05:29.000 And you said in the last month it's already gone up that amount.
03:05:32.000 In the last week, it's gone up almost 5%.
03:05:36.000 Because when we saw that short news, how 50% of them were liquidated, literally.
03:05:42.000 Silver went from 2213 to like 2330 in a week.
03:05:46.000 And you predicted then it would happen?
03:05:48.000 Yes.
03:05:49.000 I mean, it's not rocket science.
03:05:51.000 So, spell it out to me, because I'm a little smart, but spell it out to me like I'm five years old.
03:05:57.000 They are killing their shorts at a level never before seen because they're getting out of the way.
03:06:02.000 Yeah, because they think that silver is going to go up.
03:06:04.000 Why do they think that silver is going to go up?
03:06:07.000 So, if you're a hedge fund, if you're a big bank and you look at numbers that most people don't look at, The problem is the inflationary pressures, the unsustainable debt, the political chaos, the geopolitical conflict.
03:06:19.000 Those are the fundamental forces that cause markets to move.
03:06:22.000 So here's an interesting thing.
03:06:25.000 The GDP, Gross Domestic Product, which is a reflection, Alex, of everything that you and I buy at stores, everything that everybody watching this is going to stores, paying retail prices, A gross domestic product is that with everything that's manufactured and created in the country.
03:06:41.000 It's an index of the economy.
03:06:43.000 Yeah, so if inflation is at 15%, and follow me on this, if inflation is at 15%, GDP is a reflection of everything that we're buying stuff on.
03:06:54.000 GDP should be growing at 15%.
03:06:56.000 If inflation's at 15% and it's a reflection of everything... That's what Biden says!
03:06:59.000 Oh, inflation, because we're making... No, no, it's not.
03:07:02.000 GDP's not, what, at 3%?
03:07:03.000 Yeah, well, yeah, GDP, so they were bragging about this, they wanted to beat the market consensus of 2% growth in the GDP, and they were bragging about it.
03:07:13.000 It's like, why are you bragging about 2%?
03:07:16.000 That's not good.
03:07:17.000 15% is just keeping up with inflation.
03:07:20.000 Wow.
03:07:21.000 So at 2% that tells me the economy is actually shrinking.
03:07:24.000 I'm letting one of the two, because I know Biden predicted three.
03:07:27.000 I guess it's only two.
03:07:28.000 Yeah.
03:07:28.000 I mean, even they call that a win.
03:07:29.000 They call that a win because they're going to call everything a win.
03:07:32.000 But here's where it gets really, really bizarre and really, really scary, Alex.
03:07:38.000 So with this, to create $1 of GDP, They have to spend $2.50 in debt.
03:07:47.000 By the way, you showed this a month ago when you were on.
03:07:50.000 It's my fault.
03:07:50.000 I should tell the crew.
03:07:52.000 What graph do they pull up from Zero Hedge or Dow Jones that shows how Biden's created more money when he's been in office than it was ever created before?
03:07:59.000 It's going straight up.
03:08:00.000 Straight up.
03:08:00.000 I mean, that's money supply creation.
03:08:02.000 Guys, pull up a graph, U.S.
03:08:05.000 money supply creation.
03:08:06.000 Yeah, and so there's, you've got a couple of graphs you could look at.
03:08:11.000 You could look at the debt, you could look at money supply, but money supply is starting to trick people because a few years ago they stopped measuring total money supply.
03:08:21.000 It was called MZM.
03:08:22.000 That's right.
03:08:23.000 So they stopped, because that's everything that's created for stimulus.
03:08:26.000 So when I see the graph going straight up, what is that?
03:08:30.000 So, going straight up is actually the debt that we're creating.
03:08:35.000 Like $37 trillion?
03:08:36.000 $37 trillion.
03:08:36.000 So, from 1776 until 1980 when Reagan became president, you know, that's 204 years.
03:08:39.000 1776 until 1980 when Reagan became president You know that's two hundred and four years. We went there's
03:08:47.000 the graph. Yeah, we went from zero to okay, this
03:08:52.000 This is very important.
03:08:55.000 We went from zero to almost a trillion dollars worth of debt in 204 years.
03:09:00.000 The budget, Biden's stinking budget for 2024 has over 2.5 trillion dollars of deficit.
03:09:08.000 2.5 trillion dollars.
03:09:09.000 Well, it took us 204 years to accumulate almost a trillion and he's adding 2.5 plus trillion
03:09:15.000 in just one year.
03:09:16.000 They're spending like drunken sailors.
03:09:18.000 So how do you do that?
03:09:19.000 Now that chart that you're looking at there, that's actually money supply.
03:09:24.000 That's money that's being printed, right?
03:09:26.000 So the M2 money supply going through the roof, that's money in your checking account, savings account, money markets.
03:09:33.000 Now you see at the tail end of that that it's starting to come down.
03:09:37.000 What does that show me?
03:09:39.000 Because they're printing money like there's no tomorrow, but that's a different money supply that they stopped creating.
03:09:45.000 This money is money that's in the bank, which tells me banks are under-capitalized, they're starting to pull money out of the system in exchange and preparing for central bank digital currency.
03:09:55.000 Because you can't have digital money parallel with paper money, because one is private, and the big boys are pulling back to protect themselves.
03:10:03.000 They're pulling back.
03:10:04.000 They're pulling out of the system.
03:10:06.000 And that's what that number tells us.
03:10:08.000 So we can't just glaze over that.
03:10:09.000 I mean, I get chills.
03:10:11.000 Because I'm not an economist like you, but I've been following this.
03:10:13.000 I can get it, the signs.
03:10:14.000 This is unprecedented.
03:10:17.000 They're getting in the live boats while they have us rearranging deck chairs at the Titanic.
03:10:20.000 The last time we saw this kind of M2 money supply shrinking was the Great Depression.
03:10:26.000 But that was something different.
03:10:29.000 So what we have this time is money is leaving the system, Alex, because they're preparing us for a digital currency.
03:10:38.000 You can't have a digital currency that they want to control every aspect of your buying, selling, all of your ideology, everything, and still have paper money at the same time, because paper money is private.
03:10:49.000 When you spend a $20 bill, nobody knows it was you.
03:10:52.000 That's what they're trying to get away from.
03:10:54.000 But here's where the unsustainability of the system that we're in, which is why I think we are so close to collapse, $2.50 of debt spending to get $1 of GDP growth.
03:11:06.000 So let me put it into story context.
03:11:10.000 Straight up, a hundred plus years of debt to just get a tiny response.
03:11:14.000 They're out of bullets.
03:11:15.000 They're out of bullets.
03:11:16.000 So let's say you're sitting at the dinner table with your wife and you say, hey honey, I've got a great business idea.
03:11:22.000 I'm going to spend $250,000 to generate $100,000 worth of income.
03:11:24.000 She'd divorce you.
03:11:27.000 She would slap you upside the head and say, Alex, you are the dumbest person that I've ever seen in my life.
03:11:31.000 You're going to bankrupt our family.
03:11:32.000 What is wrong with you?
03:11:34.000 Right?
03:11:35.000 But this is exactly what the government's doing.
03:11:38.000 Spending $2.50 to generate $1 of growth?
03:11:41.000 That's unsustainable.
03:11:42.000 That's how, as an economist, I can tell.
03:11:44.000 Let's pull back.
03:11:46.000 Just put on your American citizen hat, doctor.
03:11:50.000 Speculate.
03:11:50.000 How do you see this unfolding?
03:11:52.000 What are the different scenarios?
03:11:53.000 People want to know that.
03:11:56.000 So as 2024 rolls into an election, what do I think is going to happen?
03:12:03.000 I think we're going to see a crisis.
03:12:06.000 Probably like nothing we've ever seen.
03:12:08.000 I think we're going to see banking crisis.
03:12:10.000 I think we're going to see interest rates continue to climb, which means people are not going to be able to pay their bills.
03:12:17.000 They're not going to be able to sustain their debt.
03:12:19.000 They're not going to be able to feed their family, right?
03:12:21.000 I'm painting a picture that looks grim because it really is, but here's where, this is where they want the picture, what they want the picture to look like.
03:12:31.000 Because in an election year, politicians do what, Alex?
03:12:34.000 They promise the moon.
03:12:36.000 And they promise other people's money to get votes.
03:12:39.000 You know, you and I have talked about this before and I know that you're a massive student of history and you love the Roman Republic and the fall of Rome and talking about that, but this started back then, right?
03:12:49.000 Rome fell when the encumbrances, when the weight of the entitlement system buried them.
03:12:56.000 They couldn't keep up with it and that was one-third of Rome was on government assistance at that time when Rome fell.
03:13:03.000 We are now at over eighty percent Of everything that we bring in as a nation goes towards entitlement.
03:13:10.000 Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Women, Infant, Children, Programs, Food Stamps, all those handouts, right?
03:13:15.000 Social Security is a mandatory payment.
03:13:16.000 It's not an entitlement.
03:13:18.000 If you're paying into it your whole life, you should expect to get something out of it.
03:13:22.000 But you can't take it away because it's really easy in today's society to give, really hard to take away, right?
03:13:30.000 So in an election year, You're going to see promises of other people's money.
03:13:35.000 You're going to see promises of everything to get votes.
03:13:39.000 And I think this is where we start to see the unraveling.
03:13:43.000 Because as interest rates continue to climb, that starts with delinquencies.
03:13:48.000 People being late on their payments.
03:13:50.000 Delinquencies over time end up in default.
03:13:53.000 When you have too many defaults at banks, they start to go under.
03:13:56.000 This is why I think we're going to see, number one this year, another systemic bank failure.
03:14:04.000 And it's going to be a lot of them this time.
03:14:06.000 I think it's going to be something bigger.
03:14:08.000 I think people are going to start giving away their freedoms in exchange for perceived security
03:14:13.000 and risk because of it.
03:14:14.000 I think that the BRICS nations are going to really start to flex and pull away petrodollar
03:14:22.000 status because they're trading in 70% of the world's trading block.
03:14:26.000 I mean, it's a huge trading block, 70% of the world's population, not using the US dollar, but using their currency.
03:14:32.000 That means demand for the dollar goes away, which means they're going to print like no tomorrow, right?
03:14:37.000 When we lose reserve currency status, the end result is simple.
03:14:43.000 We end up like Argentina, Venezuela, Cyprus, Greece, Zimbabwe, you name a country that's gone through a massive inflationary spiral, we are going to be no different than them.
03:14:56.000 It's impossible to be different from them when you don't have built-in demand from your currency.
03:15:01.000 And I hate to say this, because I'm an American.
03:15:03.000 I love this country.
03:15:04.000 I'm a patriot.
03:15:05.000 I want the dollar to be strong, but there's no way that it can be under current policies.
03:15:10.000 And this is where we're headed this year.
03:15:12.000 So I think under that, you know, it was Rahm Emanuel that said, never let a good crisis go to waste, right?
03:15:17.000 They're going to let this crisis work in their favor.
03:15:20.000 So they can actually start to strip away freedoms.
03:15:23.000 This is where I see America headed and I don't want anybody watching this to actually operate in fear, have your head in the sand thinking like an ostrich in a windstorm saying, hopefully if I just hide this and I don't think about it, it's going to go away.
03:15:38.000 No, if you do that, you probably should be scared because I think that you'll fail.
03:15:42.000 But if you take action See, if you take action, allocate into tangible assets like gold and silver to get out of the paper, get out of the digital assets that make you a digital slave in their digital world.
03:15:56.000 This is where you can actually start to just thrive and have a smile on your face.
03:16:02.000 So this is gold and silver.
03:16:03.000 One of the weird things, Alex, where not only is it a good investment, but I think it's the ultimate protector against loss of financial privacy, against loss of financial freedom.
03:16:14.000 And that's why I'm shouting it from the rooftops.
03:16:17.000 To anybody that will listen because I believe, you know, being a PhD economist and putting these puzzle pieces together of the economy, of politics, of personal freedoms, of religious freedoms, all being stripped away from us, right?
03:16:32.000 If you put all those together, it paints a good picture of where we are in our society and political consequences are having economic implications which are going to basically result in societal change.
03:16:46.000 This is where I think that we're headed.
03:16:49.000 Massive societal disruption this year.
03:16:51.000 We're already seeing it in Texas.
03:16:54.000 We're already seeing that in Denver, for example, where I live.
03:16:58.000 This migrant crisis, Alex, is creating a fiscal cliff that we're about to fall off of.
03:17:04.000 So Denver, you know, there are just illegal aliens everywhere.
03:17:08.000 I mean, we showed footage this week.
03:17:10.000 It's right here in Austin, driving to work today.
03:17:13.000 Pulled off and got gas on the side road.
03:17:15.000 It's just homeless everywhere and illegal aliens everywhere.
03:17:17.000 Everywhere.
03:17:17.000 I mean, we look out, we're right downtown where our office is, and we look out the window and there's migrants everywhere.
03:17:24.000 I'm telling you, it's everywhere.
03:17:26.000 By the way, you hit something five minutes ago, because I'm running around behind the scenes here while you're talking, saying that clip's amazing, get that out, do this.
03:17:33.000 But you explain, they admit they're crashing the system to bring in social control to the central major currencies.
03:17:39.000 This is not speculation, they're doing this.
03:17:41.000 This is making us poor to control us.
03:17:43.000 So the answer is people need to be prosperous, at least positioned to protect themselves for their own autonomy.
03:17:48.000 Well, yeah, so, and I can show people... Yeah, go through all the rest of your stuff here.
03:17:53.000 So I can show people where they're actually talking about this.
03:17:57.000 So you go to Uniform Commercial Code Article 8, for example.
03:18:02.000 This was, oh man, this was done like in 2008, 2009 after that crisis.
03:18:06.000 Let me get this ready for a while.
03:18:10.000 Yeah, this isn't anything new.
03:18:11.000 This has been planned.
03:18:12.000 They've been pre-positioning a while.
03:18:13.000 The thing is, it's coming though.
03:18:16.000 Bank robbers planned a bank robbery.
03:18:17.000 They're hitting the bank now.
03:18:18.000 Yeah, so this basically talks about, this is key, this was in 2008.
03:18:24.000 If you put money into the bank, Alex, you assume that that's your money.
03:18:28.000 No, it's not.
03:18:29.000 They have bail-in stuff.
03:18:31.000 They have bail-in stuff, but this Uniform Commercial Code Article 8 basically changed ownership so during that crisis they needed your assets to be collateral so they could pay off all their derivatives debt.
03:18:43.000 So on this, what happened?
03:18:46.000 You changed ownership from you to the bank of your assets, and you became a beneficial owner, which sounds kind of sweet and kind of nice, but it's not.
03:18:55.000 I love it!
03:18:55.000 Like, they take your rights away and they call it beneficial.
03:18:57.000 Yeah, you're a beneficiary of the ownership of your assets.
03:19:02.000 If you knock me out and say that's beneficial, no it's not.
03:19:04.000 I don't care what they call it.
03:19:07.000 So it's a security, right?
03:19:10.000 Because when you put money in the bank, this is where people think, Money in the bank is safe.
03:19:14.000 No, it's not.
03:19:15.000 When you deposit a hundred bucks, basically you're giving it to them, they become the owner, you're a beneficial owner, and they will let you use it if you want to.
03:19:22.000 But you're just hoping that your money is there when you want to withdraw it.
03:19:26.000 The banks are hoping that not everybody wants to withdraw it at the same time, because they have a zero-profit service provider.
03:19:30.000 Well, the globalists are quietly withdrawing buying gold and silver.
03:19:33.000 Massive amounts!
03:19:34.000 That's the bottom line.
03:19:35.000 They're withdrawing buying hard assets.
03:19:38.000 And farmland, mines, gold, silver, but then they're telling us to stay in the stock market.
03:19:45.000 Yeah, so your assets in the bank have become a security instrument for the bank, that you are no longer an owner of.
03:19:52.000 So that's an expansion of kind of the derivatives and the sell and the mortgages a hundred times.
03:19:55.000 Yes.
03:19:56.000 Then go fast forward to one more time.
03:19:59.000 August 9th of 2019, Federal Reserve Docket OP1670, basically this actually paved the way for central bank digital currency under that.
03:20:10.000 Because in this document, they changed the definition of money.
03:20:15.000 The Federal Reserve, this is their own words, they said there is a fourth function of money as a means of social control.
03:20:22.000 By the way, this was a big deal when you did this a month ago.
03:20:24.000 You only did two minutes and I got a lot of complaints that you didn't go deeper.
03:20:27.000 So, I'm not going to interrupt.
03:20:28.000 Ten minutes on this.
03:20:29.000 Okay.
03:20:30.000 Start over.
03:20:32.000 So, fourth function of money, instead of... New definition.
03:20:35.000 Yeah.
03:20:35.000 Explain it.
03:20:36.000 Instead, what is money?
03:20:37.000 It's a medium of exchange.
03:20:39.000 It's a hold of value.
03:20:41.000 You know, that's what money is.
03:20:42.000 You use 20 bucks to go to the store and buy... Is it agreed upon?
03:20:47.000 Exchange thing yep, and it still is but now they added this fourth function as a means of social control
03:20:53.000 Which is like social control? What does money have to do with that?
03:20:56.000 I find it they say social control yeah, so social control means if they want to get a policy of like climate change
03:21:03.000 in and You're you have a big gas guzzling truck like I do
03:21:09.000 Doesn't get very good gas mileage.
03:21:11.000 And they say, Alex, uh, we're not going to let you under digital currency system.
03:21:11.000 Right?
03:21:16.000 They can say, you're going to the gas station way too much.
03:21:19.000 We'll just flip the switch, shut it off.
03:21:20.000 So you can't buy that.
03:21:22.000 Or charge you a surcharge.
03:21:23.000 Yeah.
03:21:24.000 Or we want you to buy an electric vehicle.
03:21:26.000 So this is social control.
03:21:28.000 By the way, they're saying they're going to do that.
03:21:30.000 It's not like you're speculating.
03:21:31.000 No, this is Federal Reserve Docket OP1670.
03:21:34.000 I mean, it's not my opinion, it's their words.
03:21:36.000 So, let's say you give to a church, because you're tithing, and they say, what?
03:21:42.000 We don't like that church.
03:21:43.000 They speak hate speech, right?
03:21:44.000 And so we're going to cut you off.
03:21:45.000 And they said they don't want that.
03:21:47.000 Yeah.
03:21:47.000 We're going to cut you off from being able to go.
03:21:48.000 And where are the charges if they're sitting there having no idea they're about to have the rug pulled out from under them?
03:21:52.000 No idea.
03:21:53.000 So then you go to 11-8-2019 U.S.
03:21:55.000 11/8/2019 US patent 62/758430. Visa applied for this patent, the credit card company.
03:22:07.000 Yes.
03:22:07.000 323 of 2020.
03:22:07.000 What did the patent say?
03:22:08.000 It says we are actually applying for a patent to create digital money, a digital wallet,
03:22:13.000 and every unit of digital money that's placed, we're going to take away one unit of paper
03:22:19.000 currency.
03:22:20.000 Elimination of paper currency to go to digital money.
03:22:24.000 So this is their plan to get out of their Ponzi scheme as a new one.
03:22:28.000 Yes.
03:22:29.000 3/23 of 2020.
03:22:31.000 HR 6321.
03:22:33.000 The great Maxine Waters sponsored this one.
03:22:37.000 So what is that?
03:22:38.000 She said during the crisis, during the pandemic, right, that they manufactured,
03:22:43.000 if anybody wanted government stimulus money, what did they say?
03:22:48.000 It said they have to have a digital dollar, they have to have a digital dollar wallet
03:22:52.000 issued by a member bank.
03:22:54.000 So if you want to receive government money, you're gonna have to go into a digital system.
03:22:59.000 There is no other option.
03:23:01.000 So extrapolate out--
03:23:02.000 They're in the old system.
03:23:03.000 Yeah, extrapolate that out into the future.
03:23:05.000 And this is where I'm gonna start to bring in some theology stuff, Alex,
03:23:08.000 because what if you want social security or a government pension?
03:23:13.000 You've been working for the federal government, the military, whatever, your whole life and say, OK, you want to keep that coming?
03:23:18.000 You have to have this FedNow app.
03:23:20.000 You have to have this Mark of the Beast system or you're not going to be able to get it.
03:23:23.000 It's like, what?
03:23:24.000 I don't want that.
03:23:25.000 Well, too bad.
03:23:26.000 Either you take it or you don't get your money.
03:23:28.000 Right.
03:23:28.000 So.
03:23:29.000 So then.
03:23:30.000 March 9th of 2022, Executive Order 14067, Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets.
03:23:38.000 This was penned by Biden, and what did he say?
03:23:40.000 He authorized the move to central bank digital currency in America.
03:23:44.000 That's where this all starts to come home at the Federal Reserve level.
03:23:50.000 March 29th of 2022, Dr. Pippa Malmgren actually explained for the first time at the World Economic Forum, what is central bank digital currency?
03:24:00.000 It's programmable money!
03:24:03.000 Meaning, they can change who owns it, if your digital social profile... And say where you can spend it!
03:24:10.000 They've admitted all this now.
03:24:11.000 I mean, this is all their words.
03:24:13.000 This is not mine.
03:24:14.000 I don't want anybody to think this is my opinion.
03:24:16.000 I'm just reporting what they said, right?
03:24:19.000 The ability to cut you off your ability to buy or sell based on your social credit score.
03:24:23.000 Well, they had the head of the European Central Bank, they had the head of the Yeah, and here's where it starts to now gain momentum.
03:24:28.000 It's like a snowball rolling downhill, right?
03:24:30.000 thing you do, we will control your behavior, we will do everything."
03:24:33.000 They said it.
03:24:34.000 Yeah.
03:24:35.000 And here's where it starts to now gain momentum.
03:24:39.000 It's like a snowball rolling downhill, right?
03:24:41.000 So March of 2023, the United Nations, our Common Agenda Policy Brief.
03:24:46.000 So the Secretary General of the UN.
03:24:49.000 basically said they're convening to operationalize automatically an emergency platform in the event of a future complex global shock of sufficient scale, severity, and reach.
03:24:59.000 So they tell you, we're going to use a virus for control, we're going to use a banking collapse for control, they're telling you.
03:25:04.000 They tell us, and they tell us... And they artificially put the U.S.
03:25:07.000 with the BRICS into policies to kill the dollar to create the crisis.
03:25:11.000 Correct.
03:25:11.000 Wow!
03:25:12.000 So get a load of this... I think they're going to double-cross BRICS though when it comes time.
03:25:16.000 I think so.
03:25:17.000 Nobody can be trusted anywhere.
03:25:19.000 Everyone's going to double-cross everybody, right?
03:25:21.000 But here's where they tell us in the next paragraph, we don't have to think or speculate about what a global shock of sufficient scale, severity, and reach could be because they say, what is that?
03:25:31.000 The emergency authority can be convened including a major climatic event, a future pandemic risk, a global digital connectivity disruption, a major event in outer space, and generic unforeseen risks like Black Swan.
03:25:44.000 So they're talking about solar flares, asteroids.
03:25:47.000 Yes, and a future pandemic risk.
03:25:49.000 And what did you talk about last week?
03:25:51.000 Stinking Ebola virus?
03:25:54.000 They're cooking up in Colorado.
03:25:55.000 They're cooking up in Colorado, in my backyard.
03:25:57.000 Denver Health, all the employees taking the live Ebola vaccine, and the lab that's creating that is in Colorado Springs.
03:26:05.000 It's like Wuhan in Colorado.
03:26:08.000 Colorado Springs is the real U.S.
03:26:09.000 Capitol.
03:26:10.000 Yeah, I mean, what in the world is... For those that don't know, that's the real Capitol.
03:26:14.000 They even have an alternate Congress.
03:26:15.000 Everything's set up there.
03:26:18.000 Geez.
03:26:18.000 That's NORAD.
03:26:19.000 Okay, so I'm basically living at ground zero.
03:26:22.000 Thanks.
03:26:23.000 Well, you're probably the most protected.
03:26:24.000 I mean, that's the real capital is the Colorado Springs, yeah?
03:26:27.000 Yeah, so keep... I mean, this... They got a whole underground capital.
03:26:31.000 It's admitted.
03:26:32.000 They got a whole thing there.
03:26:33.000 And there is stuff under Denver.
03:26:34.000 They call it a conspiracy.
03:26:35.000 They've got underground bases everywhere.
03:26:37.000 That's the real deal.
03:26:38.000 When was the last time you were at Denver International Airport?
03:26:41.000 It's... I know now they're countering the conspiracy theories.
03:26:43.000 They got bathumet, they got gargoyles, they got murals of kids being slaughtered by Nazis.
03:26:49.000 It's wild.
03:26:49.000 Oh, it's wild.
03:26:50.000 And now, they're doing all kinds of construction.
03:26:53.000 You know, they put up the fake walls to hide the construction.
03:26:55.000 Oh, I know the guys that built it.
03:26:56.000 There are...
03:26:58.000 It's an alternate B-52 base at Denver.
03:27:01.000 That was the excuse to build it, but it goes all the way out to Colorado Springs, which is the alternate government in a nuclear war and COG.
03:27:08.000 Continental government.
03:27:09.000 So this is all declassified.
03:27:10.000 That's the real capital now.
03:27:12.000 The alternate capital is Colorado Springs.
03:27:14.000 Oh my goodness.
03:27:15.000 It's like an hour or half an hour, whatever it is, from Denver.
03:27:18.000 That's like 60 miles.
03:27:19.000 I mean, it takes an hour to get there.
03:27:21.000 It's not far.
03:27:22.000 But they're putting up signs on these walls.
03:27:24.000 It's like, what are we doing here?
03:27:26.000 We're making Denver a better airport for everybody.
03:27:29.000 We've got a secret underground government base.
03:27:35.000 Guys, pull up the headlines as he mentions it.
03:27:36.000 It was, uh, Denver Airport Counters Conspiracy Theorists.
03:27:40.000 Yeah.
03:27:41.000 What does that even mean?
03:27:42.000 See, they don't have to say that they lied about it because it's on the walls there.
03:27:46.000 It's like, underground government base, or they're, you know, hiding the lizard people in the tunnels.
03:27:52.000 I mean, they're making fun of it, but one of those things... Yeah, why are they doing that?
03:27:55.000 One of those things is true.
03:27:56.000 So they can say, we told everybody what we were doing and nobody believes it, right?
03:28:00.000 So anyways, wild stuff happening there, but then...
03:28:04.000 March 6th of 2023, to continue on with this timeline, Bank for International Settlements Project Icebreaker.
03:28:10.000 What's that all about?
03:28:11.000 That says, the ability to not authorize bank wires if the use of funds does not match up with their ideology.
03:28:19.000 Meaning, if you wanted to send me money... So the Federal Reserve is saying, and the WF is saying, if we don't agree with you, we don't let you transfer money.
03:28:27.000 Correct.
03:28:28.000 It's all in the documents.
03:28:29.000 In the documents, and there's a link here that you people... all you have to do is go for it.
03:28:34.000 Go to the Bank for International Settlements, BIS.org, type in Project Icebreaker, you'll find it.
03:28:40.000 May 31st of 2023, Bank for International Settlements Project Aurora took it one step further.
03:28:47.000 And what is Project Aurora?
03:28:48.000 That's real-time transaction monitoring of all transactions of all people in all banks of every country.
03:28:55.000 That's everybody, Alex.
03:28:56.000 And why do they need to monitor every transaction in real-time?
03:28:59.000 Oh, to see if their ideology matches up.
03:29:02.000 Why do they want to do that?
03:29:03.000 So they can cut you off from buying or selling?
03:29:04.000 In their own words!
03:29:05.000 In their own words, this is all about people control, right?
03:29:09.000 So then, you go to June 20th of 2023.
03:29:11.000 Now it starts to get to, well, if we don't like you, in the blueprint of the financial monetary system, improving the old, enabling the new, unified ledger, this is the UN's blueprint, what do they say?
03:29:25.000 A unified ledger means they can tokenize all of your assets into a packet.
03:29:30.000 And to one like chunk.
03:29:32.000 And in that, you can have your house, you can have your stock, your bonds, your mutual funds, your bank account, your savings accounts.
03:29:40.000 No, and they can change it with the flip of a switch.
03:29:43.000 They can change ownership.
03:29:44.000 Well, good grief.
03:29:45.000 This goes back to that law after the 2009 crisis where you become a beneficial owner.
03:29:51.000 Now it's all making sense.
03:29:53.000 So they're applying these laws, putting them together.
03:29:56.000 Unified ledger.
03:29:58.000 Applies to beneficial ownership where you don't own anything and you're gonna like it in their words, right?
03:30:04.000 So so there's where we are there now, June 27th through 29th of 2023 During the 14th annual meeting of the new champions in Tianjin, China Cornell University professor Aswar Prasad shared his thoughts on the impending disappearance of physical currency they're bragging about all of this right so now What are future dates coming up?
03:30:29.000 Future dates, September 15th of 2024, the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres' vision for the future, global biometric ID tied to all bank accounts.
03:30:42.000 So now all bank accounts are going to be digital, tied up to you, your biometric, whether it's a fingerprint, whether it's whatever, eye, retinal scan, we don't know.
03:30:51.000 And then you go to September 22nd through 24th of 2024, that's this year, UN pact for the future, this is the date the globalists want to share their commenced plan to the world.
03:31:02.000 So their timeline is established.
03:31:05.000 We are just repeating it, right?
03:31:08.000 We're just repeating and sharing that news.
03:31:10.000 So, as a theologian, you know, as a, you know, having my PhD in theology, Alex, I look at this.
03:31:15.000 Revelation 13, 17 says, in those days, you know, no man, woman, or child will be able to buy or sell unless they have the mark, you know.
03:31:23.000 So, what is that?
03:31:25.000 It's like theologians throughout time are saying, what is the Mark of the Beast?
03:31:29.000 The 666?
03:31:29.000 What is it?
03:31:30.000 Well, to me, as I read this, they're saying that this is probably the Mark of the Beast.
03:31:35.000 If you can't buy or sell without matching up with their ideology, then they can cut you off.
03:31:41.000 Doesn't that sound like...
03:31:43.000 Revelation 13, 17, Alex, where it's like... Well, the Bible says you've got to worship the beast to get the mark.
03:31:49.000 It's not like you just accept it, you've got to worship it.
03:31:51.000 Right.
03:31:52.000 Which means it's tracking everything you do, you've got to merge with it.
03:31:54.000 Yes.
03:31:55.000 So here's where I have a message of hope in this, because people freak out and say, Kirk, Central Bank Digital Currency, it's the mark of the beast, this is the end of time, this is terrible.
03:32:02.000 It's like, does that verse actually say that it's the only game in town?
03:32:07.000 No, it doesn't.
03:32:08.000 It just says, don't take the mark.
03:32:10.000 So... It says, run to the hills, the country.
03:32:10.000 Right?
03:32:12.000 Yeah, so here's where I think, knowing how God is, how he's a God of love, he's a God of grace, he's a God of mercy, he's a God of choice, right?
03:32:22.000 He always gives us cheat sheets.
03:32:24.000 He always gives us a plan for success.
03:32:26.000 You know, Jeremiah 29 says, you know, my plan for you is to have a successful future, not to harm you, right?
03:32:33.000 So here's where he would not put in his word anything where we could...
03:32:37.000 But we better find out the plan and follow it.
03:32:39.000 We better figure it out, because... How powerful is it?
03:32:42.000 Because I already know God, I already know the Holy Spirit, I already... God's given me psychic dreams and things that come true.
03:32:48.000 Like, hey, I'm, like, literally, like, I'm real.
03:32:49.000 I already know that.
03:32:51.000 But it's all being fulfilled!
03:32:52.000 I mean, it's wild!
03:32:54.000 It is!
03:32:55.000 So, knowing God the way that you and I do, and your viewers out there, it's like, He gives us a choice, always.
03:33:03.000 As a Christian, you can accept Jesus or reject Him.
03:33:07.000 You know, benefits for accepting curses, you know, or problems.
03:33:12.000 You can sin or you cannot sin.
03:33:15.000 Or, in this Mark of the Beast thing, you can either take it or you don't.
03:33:15.000 Right?
03:33:19.000 See, what is the plan if you don't take it?
03:33:22.000 Well, this is where I think states' rights are coming in.
03:33:25.000 You know, you go down to the grass patch.
03:33:27.000 Oh, there's going to be major remnants everywhere.
03:33:28.000 Major remnants everywhere, like Texas, like Oklahoma, state chartered central banks backed by gold.
03:33:34.000 And that's why the globalists admit Christians are their main threat, because they're going to reject it.
03:33:38.000 Yes, absolutely.
03:33:39.000 And what did...
03:33:41.000 What did Christine Lagarde say last week?
03:33:45.000 She was spouting off about Trump saying Trump is the biggest fear of the globalists because if he gets back in and the globalists... That's out of the EU.
03:33:55.000 Yes.
03:33:57.000 So they're afraid of Trump because why?
03:33:59.000 He's not part of the globalist system.
03:34:01.000 He's not just going to... He said I'll shut down central bank digital currencies.
03:34:06.000 He said that exactly.
03:34:07.000 So my first act is I'm killing it.
03:34:09.000 Yep.
03:34:10.000 So here's why they are so afraid.
03:34:12.000 They want the system to come in.
03:34:14.000 And you know what?
03:34:15.000 I think that they will get it, Alex.
03:34:17.000 I think this is going to come in.
03:34:18.000 At some point.
03:34:19.000 At some point.
03:34:19.000 But what's going to run... Well, you're a Bible, you're a theologian, I'm not, but there's many Antichrist spirits.
03:34:24.000 There's finally the one.
03:34:25.000 Yes.
03:34:26.000 It keeps trying.
03:34:27.000 It looks like we lose for a while, but no, we're pre-positioned that once people finally see it all happen, then the greatest revival ever happens.
03:34:34.000 Greatest revival ever.
03:34:35.000 And here's where I think there's going to be parallel systems, gold-backed currency, using silver as barter.
03:34:41.000 And I agree, gold, silver, but also farming, friends, family.
03:34:44.000 All of that.
03:34:45.000 That's going to be pure gold.
03:34:46.000 So I do think that they are going to get their way in part, but there's going to be parallel systems for us to thrive and succeed.
03:34:53.000 And this is why I... Well that's the great evil.
03:34:55.000 You're a theologian.
03:34:56.000 I don't attack Christians that believe in a pre-tribulation.
03:34:59.000 I hope that's the case.
03:35:00.000 So I'm not judging them.
03:35:02.000 They get so mad when I do this.
03:35:02.000 But I can read Revelation.
03:35:04.000 It says the beast wages war against the saints and overcomes them for a very short time.
03:35:09.000 And so, it's like you're getting your ass kicked in the fifth round, you win in the twelfth.
03:35:14.000 Regardless, we're here to challenge this, but the average Christian says, I don't care, I'll be taken care of.
03:35:19.000 Well, when in history would Jesus or the prophets before him, did God not put his people in the way to decide who they were?
03:35:26.000 I mean, I just don't see us perfectly not having to confront evil.
03:35:31.000 Well, he never said it was going to be easy, and I believe that God cares more about our eternity than he does our comfort level, right?
03:35:39.000 And we have to ask ourselves this very critical question.
03:35:41.000 Well, it's a test before we get boosted up to the f***ing heaven with God.
03:35:45.000 We better prove ourselves.
03:35:46.000 We better prove ourselves, and we have to ask ourselves every day, like I know you do, it's like, why am I here?
03:35:53.000 Right?
03:35:53.000 We are called to be light in this world and cast out the darkness, right?
03:35:57.000 And using that Holy Spirit empowerment and the courage and the creativity and the boldness and the wisdom that comes from that.
03:36:04.000 But we are here for a reason.
03:36:06.000 We weren't created 400 years ago or 400 years from now.
03:36:10.000 We're right here, right now, and we've got all this garbage happening.
03:36:13.000 No, I agree.
03:36:14.000 So what is the average Christian?
03:36:15.000 Well, there's world government, Antichrist, and they're not raptured out.
03:36:19.000 What are they going to think and do when they're like sitting there in the middle of this?
03:36:23.000 They're going to say the devil's the Christ and bow down to him.
03:36:25.000 Yeah, I mean, that's probably what they're going to do.
03:36:27.000 But what we have to do is spread this message far and wide, like what you're doing every single day.
03:36:33.000 I mean, this is your calling.
03:36:34.000 It's your anointing.
03:36:35.000 It's your gifting, Alex.
03:36:37.000 Ours is on the financial side.
03:36:38.000 And I want to bring peace in the midst of the storm to people's financial lives.
03:36:43.000 Right, so there's a story in the Gospels where there's this raging sea, this storm on the Sea of Galilee, right?
03:36:49.000 And Jesus is out there walking on water, and so for all of you people who read the Bible, you know the story, but Peter wakes up in the midst of the storm and he's out there and says, Jesus, you're walking on water, what are you doing out there?
03:37:00.000 And Jesus says, come to me.
03:37:02.000 So what did he do?
03:37:04.000 He starts walking on water, too.
03:37:05.000 Why?
03:37:05.000 Because he was focused on the solution, not the storm.
03:37:08.000 But human nature, he starts to get scared.
03:37:11.000 He looks at the waves around him, and he starts to sink.
03:37:14.000 Why?
03:37:14.000 Because he took his eyes off the solution.
03:37:16.000 I think that story is a story for all of us today where we can say, regardless, God's real, just trust in God, and it's going to be incredible.
03:37:23.000 Most of America and every client that calls me is basically gripped and paralyzed with fear, Alex.
03:37:29.000 And fear does one of two things.
03:37:30.000 It causes you to not act or it causes you to make a wrong decision.
03:37:33.000 Right?
03:37:33.000 So let that spirit of fear sink to the pit where it belongs.
03:37:37.000 Well, God doesn't give us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of overcoming and victory.
03:37:41.000 Sound mind.
03:37:42.000 and judgment and sound mind.
03:37:45.000 And with that comes creativity and wisdom and discernment and boldness and all of that.
03:37:50.000 So most of America right now is focused on the storm.
03:37:53.000 Don't focus on the storm.
03:37:55.000 I want to encourage you, focus on the solution.
03:37:57.000 Financially, I believe the solution rests in precious metals because you're out of that mark
03:38:02.000 of the beast system.
03:38:03.000 You're not a digital slave in their digital world.
03:38:06.000 God created it.
03:38:07.000 Families of farming, gold, silver.
03:38:09.000 All of it.
03:38:09.000 In closing, Dr. Elliott, it's really great to have you here.
03:38:14.000 You need to pitch it.
03:38:15.000 You don't do it.
03:38:15.000 You've got great gold and silver bullion, great advice, five-star ratings everywhere, and a system where it's like nobody has even one star.
03:38:23.000 We love you.
03:38:24.000 Closing five-minute statement on the economy, the world, and whatever else people need to know.
03:38:29.000 You know, don't operate out of fear.
03:38:31.000 Do not.
03:38:32.000 And so that means, what is fear going to do?
03:38:33.000 It's going to cause you not to act.
03:38:35.000 I've never done gold before.
03:38:35.000 I've never done silver.
03:38:36.000 I don't know what's going on.
03:38:37.000 But the stuff that we talked about today, Alex, is real.
03:38:41.000 It's happening.
03:38:42.000 And you have to act to take advantage of it so it doesn't take advantage of you.
03:38:47.000 So I encourage you to call us or go to kepm.com forward slash gold.
03:38:54.000 Or call our office at 720-605-3900 and just say, Alex sent me, right?
03:39:01.000 And so, and what do we do?
03:39:04.000 We are going to hold your hand through the economy.
03:39:07.000 We're going to get you into tangible assets, bullion.
03:39:10.000 Remember what I said earlier, not all gold, not all silver are created equal.
03:39:15.000 People are being overcharged.
03:39:17.000 They're being abused, literally abused, going into something that's unsuitable for them.
03:39:23.000 And so if you think that that's you, simply email us at Ashley at KEPM.com.
03:39:30.000 She's our CEO.
03:39:31.000 And send us a copy of your invoice so we can possibly help.
03:39:35.000 People are insane.
03:39:36.000 They're insane if they don't go with you.
03:39:38.000 Ten years not a gold sponsor, folks, because I couldn't find a good one.
03:39:41.000 Because I'm not going to sit there and sell you numismatics with a 100% markup.
03:39:45.000 I'm not doing it.
03:39:47.000 Yeah, I mean, there's really, you never want to go into that stuff, ever.
03:39:52.000 Low cost, and we're in silver right now, because it's outperforming gold, and we can take advantage... You were on months ago saying silver's about to go up, and it did!
03:40:03.000 It did!
03:40:04.000 And we're going to see even more because of the manufacturing demand.
03:40:08.000 Alex, this is what's wild to me.
03:40:10.000 In the worst global economy we've seen in over 40 years, maybe ever, The demand for silver is through the roof because it's used in electronics, it's used in EVs, electric vehicles, solar, fuel cell technology, all of it.
03:40:25.000 Everything that we're hearing on a daily basis.
03:40:27.000 Industrial metal.
03:40:28.000 Industrial metal used for manufacturing, needed.
03:40:31.000 Manufacturing jobs are in decline.
03:40:33.000 Bank failures are coming.
03:40:34.000 What we didn't even get into, which we can talk about next time we do a show, state pensions are running out of money.
03:40:41.000 So if you've got a retirement and a state pension, it's like, oh my word, call us because we can possibly roll that out into an IRA denominated in gold and silver.
03:40:50.000 Let's do this.
03:40:50.000 I'm going to edit this down to an hour for my weekday show.
03:40:54.000 Come on the 15 minutes before it and we'll talk about the state pension funds.
03:40:57.000 Because that's a question, without you bringing it up, our bankruptcy of some US states in the future, that's being talked about in the Wall Street Journal.
03:41:04.000 Yeah.
03:41:05.000 I mean, states are going bankrupt, pensions are going bankrupt.
03:41:09.000 See, to me, a state pension is like a legalized Ponzi scheme.
03:41:15.000 Literally.
03:41:15.000 It goes back to Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters and all that.
03:41:18.000 Because we've got the graying of America.
03:41:20.000 More people are going into retirement that are going to receive benefits than people that are paying into the system.
03:41:26.000 That's what COVID's about, to get rid of the old folks.
03:41:28.000 Dr. Kirk Elliott, thank you so much for the time.
03:41:30.000 Thanks for coming down from Denver.
03:41:32.000 Your city's as overrun as mine is, so we're both in the same hell pit here.
03:41:35.000 But God bless you.
03:41:37.000 Thank you so much.
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03:41:44.000 Thank you so much, sir.
03:41:44.000 Great job.
03:41:45.000 Thank you so much.
03:41:46.000 Thank you.
03:41:47.000 Bye bye.
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