Alex Jones speaks to Tucker Carlson about the future of humanity, World War III, and how we turn not just American civilization, but the entire world, around from a globalist death cult that is in control of our lives today.
00:01:14.000At Real Alex Jones on X, but Tucker Carlson does not need any introduction.
00:01:20.000And I want to just talk to him first about the future of humanity, the future of America, World War III, the fact that the dinosaur media is officially dead and is trying to claw the rest of us with them, and how we turn not just American civilization, but the entire world civilization around from this globalist death cult that is In control of our lives today.
00:01:42.000So Tucker, thank you so much for the time, my friend.
00:01:45.000Of course, you've announced a big nationwide tour that I'm very proud to be a small part of.
00:01:52.000I know you don't ever talk about Fox getting rid of you, but man, it's got to feel vindication and good that I would say you reach about 10 times more people now than when you were on Fox.
00:02:15.000I'm here, obviously, because we're friends, but I'm really here On principle, because there's nothing you've ever said in your entire life or done in your entire life that's scarier or more threatening to our country than what they're doing to you right now.
00:02:30.000So the government taking a broadcaster off the air who's committed no crime because he dares to criticize them is the scariest possible thing and it's the clearest possible sign of tyranny and I am heartbroken that this isn't getting more attention.
00:03:25.000By the way, if you had started a war that killed a million people or tanked the U.S.
00:03:29.000economy or, you know, sort of looted every American's bank account through the Federal Reserve, you would be getting a Presidential Medal of Freedom.
00:03:38.000But you criticized the ruling oligarchy, and they're trying to crush you.
00:03:44.000So I hope every person of principle, every decent person in this country,
00:03:49.000whether they agree with what you say or not, whether they like you personally or not, it doesn't matter,
00:03:53.000will say out loud, "No, you can't do this in my country, "the country that my ancestors built that I was born in.
00:03:58.000"You can't take people off the air "because they criticize you because that's tyranny."
00:04:02.000Well, I wanna just thank you because when I first got deplatformed five years ago,
00:04:07.000almost no one who was prominent came to my aid and said, "Hey, they're gonna get everybody
00:04:21.000It was basically a Democratic Party whipshot.
00:04:24.000But shifting gears out of me, I mean, I totally agree with you.
00:04:28.000This isn't about Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson or Donald Trump or Steve Bannon.
00:04:32.000It's about, they have to get through us to get to the public, as Trump always says.
00:04:35.000And it really is a canary in the coal mine that they're so hysterical and so desperate
00:04:40.000and know that they've lost control of the narrative The lawfare, all the fake charges, all the criminality, and I want to speak to all of that, but you never really talk about yourself, and people find that fascinating.
00:05:21.000You know, it's always painful to, you know, have anything unexpected happen in your life because you think, you know, you can see the future, but it's really a blessing to be reminded that you can't.
00:07:04.000So, I'm not saying that to pose as a self-deprecating person.
00:07:08.000I'm saying that because it's factually true and it's good to operate on the basis of what's true rather than on what you wish were true.
00:07:15.000Well, I mean, as I've grown up, I'm 50 now.
00:07:19.000I was never ego-driven completely, but I was more ego-driven as I was younger.
00:07:22.000It's such a strength and way more satisfying to have the ego basically drop away to almost nothing and to really have it be a sense of community.
00:07:31.000And that's your power that comes off so genuine, and it's even stronger in person, folks, is that you really are a genuine person who's humble.
00:07:42.000If you look at the globalists in DC, which I know you know well, they are the complete opposite.
00:07:47.000They are on delusional, crazy power trips.
00:07:50.000And to me, there's nothing more dangerous than that with people that are megalomaniacs and think they're invincible who also have nuclear weapons.
00:08:33.000The male temperament is particularly susceptible to the delusion that, you know, I'm Jesus.
00:08:38.000And those people are the most dangerous, and you're right, when they have the power to destroy the world, which they do, you know, they're terrifying.
00:08:47.000And we are, by the way, just since you brought it up, we are on the cusp of nuclear war with Russia right now.
00:09:00.000We're targeting Mainland Russia, we are attacking Russia, the nation we're at in a hot war with Russia.
00:09:08.000So from Putin's perspective, which is basically unknown in the United States, and they're completely committed to preventing you from knowing what Putin thinks or says.
00:09:18.000But if you pay any attention, all you know that Putin He is dictatorial, of course.
00:09:52.000And Russian media has ignored those attacks.
00:09:55.000Putin does not want to seem weak in front of his country, in front of the Russian people, period.
00:10:01.000And so my point is, Russian media, if you watch it, has been downplaying NATO attacks on Russia.
00:10:08.000If there is a NATO attack within Russia that he cannot keep from his people, it becomes obvious that he can't protect mainland Russia from NATO.
00:10:16.000He'll launch a tactical nuke into Ukraine.
00:10:19.000A nuclear weapon into Ukraine for the first time in 79 years.
00:10:22.000We are very, very, very close to that.
00:10:25.000And if that happens, of course, it'll set off a chain reaction and we'll have a nuclear war in which you and I and our children will die.
00:10:42.000But the average person is not bent on suicide, doesn't want to die, doesn't want his kids to be incinerated, doesn't want to live in a post-nuclear wasteland.
00:10:49.000And the average person has no idea that that's happening right now.
00:10:53.000And I just think it's the most astounding thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
00:10:58.000And if you add to that, Biden not knowing what planet he's on.
00:11:01.000And for people that don't know, you've studied this.
00:11:16.000Putin, for those that don't study the situation, is a moderate and is restraining the hardliners.
00:11:22.000And the vast majority of Russians, over 80%, want full-out war.
00:11:25.000And people that don't know, Hitler went to be defeated in Russia, Napoleon, the Russians were the frontier with the East and stopped all these Mongol and then Islamic invasions.
00:11:34.000And so the Russians are very serious when it comes to being attacked and they will attack.
00:11:39.000And so this is not like some, you know, Iraq where we've cut off the resources and are, you know, murdering them with starvation and they can't fight back.
00:11:48.000This is the largest nuclear power and this is beyond playing with fire or poking a bear.
00:11:52.000I was texting you a few weeks ago and I said, yeah, it's World War III and you said...
00:11:57.000It's the final war, and I think that term, I hadn't heard that before, it's right.
00:12:01.000We had World War I that was the war to end all wars, we learned it wasn't, but this would be the final war as your very famous quantum mechanics expert once said, I don't know how World War III will be fought, but I know that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
00:12:22.000And the funny thing is that you and I grew up in a country where that was a commonplace observation, like all through school.
00:12:27.000You know, our entire lives up until about 25 years ago when The United States became the unipolar power.
00:12:34.000We were told, and it was true, that nuclear war was the end of humanity, and it was the thing to fear most.
00:12:41.000And all of a sudden, it became this thing that the entire foreign policy establishment in Washington, CSIS, and everyone in the National Security Council, and just sort of the permanent Foreign policy thinkers in D.C.
00:12:55.000wave away as, you know, not possible, whatever, you're being hysterical, even as they tell us that Vladimir Putin is dying of Parkinson's disease, is deranged, is a crazed megalomaniac on a death trip.
00:13:09.000You know, we can't he cannot be trusted.
00:13:11.000You cannot have a negotiation with him because he's that crazy.
00:13:14.000They're saying that this guy, who's by their own description that crazy, will not launch any of his 6,000 nuclear warheads against the West.
00:13:22.000I mean, it's the villain in this story, whatever you think of Putin, and I'm hardly defending Putin, but the villain here is NATO and the National Security Council in Washington, because they are pushing Our country and the West to annihilation and that that's a fact that's not I'm not being you know hysterical or trying to you know up play it or sell it you know as a threat that we shall be worried about this isn't an imminent danger to human existence and we're at the most fraught moment in all of human history right now.
00:13:59.000It's shocking to me that the Today Show and Good Morning America and the New York Times and the Washington Post don't begin every story no matter what the topic with, you know, by the way, we're on the cusp of nuclear war.
00:14:15.000Because there's nothing more important than that.
00:14:37.000He's better than I am at interrupting.
00:14:38.000But I want to be even better than Joe.
00:14:39.000I want to give you time to keep elaborating on this because you've really done a lot of research into this.
00:14:43.000And I want to get back into the suicide death cult.
00:14:47.000Nature of the globalist, and why they're so nihilistic, why they're doing this, and how they see a nuclear war as some survivable thing for them, that'll get rid of the population, and they'll re-emerge, and the Wall Street Journal, even with headlines, looking forward to the end of humanity, and just hundreds of headlines about humans are a parasite, let's get rid of them, and then the horrible sick things they do, like this is really, at the end of the day, a spiritual battle, and you've talked some about that in your guest tab, and I want you to really go deep on this today.
00:15:16.000Well, I mean, I think the framework that most of us internalized growing up in this country was evolutionary biology.
00:15:21.000The idea that human behavior is the product of millions of years of adaptation to the environment, and we like things, we don't like things, because our ancestors had a need to like or dislike those things.
00:15:31.000And it makes sense, and I think to some extent it's true.
00:15:34.000But the bottom line imperative in evolutionary biology is survival.
00:15:40.000You know, the whole point of existence is to pass on your genes to another generation and, you know, continue the line of humanity.
00:15:47.000So, and I think that's right, actually.
00:15:50.000So whenever you see people who are pushing for the end of humanity, pushing for suicide, you know that the controlling power is, by definition, not human.
00:16:03.000That's my, I'm trying to approach this logically here, like, what are we watching?
00:16:07.000And I don't think that we're watching the product of human greed here, for example.
00:16:13.000And a lot of people, and I've been one of them many, many times, say, well, you know, the real story here, you know, the real reason this is happening is because Larry Fink is going to buy all the farmland in Ukraine and he's going to make a ton of money for BlackRock.
00:16:24.000Or the reason, you know, We have so many transvestite children is because the, you know, hormone makers are making a bundle on this, or the reason they're pushing the COVID vax is because Moderna and Pfizer are getting rich.
00:16:37.000I mean, on one level, that is all true, of course, but it's not what's driving it.
00:16:43.000No one is going to survive a nuclear exchange.
00:16:45.000The people who are pushing us, no one on the National Security Council is going to have a better life if there's a nuclear war.
00:16:52.000Everything that they know and love will be gone, including their own children.
00:16:56.000So this is not actually something they're doing for their own benefit, whether they know it or not.
00:17:00.000They're being driven to do it by spiritual forces.
00:17:03.000I mean, I don't, I mean, if there's another explanation, by the way, I'm completely comfortable having grown up a secular person in a secular country with a secular explanation for what we're watching.
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00:20:28.000I've heard you talk about this some, but can you elaborate on, growing up Episcopalian, you were never Satanist, you kind of believed in God from what I've heard, but weren't sure
00:20:39.000about it and liked the idea of Christianity, but then you've told me some of your private stories and told me some of mine, we're not going to get into those here, but the process
00:20:46.000of you in the last four or five years, really communicating what everybody else is feeling Either you're totally in the Matrix and don't see any of it, and do whatever you're told, and you will lick the bugs and, you know, love all this evil, and that's a smaller and smaller group.
00:20:59.000Or there's the majority of us, really, that don't have all the answers but are trying to figure this out.
00:21:04.000What was that process like for you coming to this realization that it's good versus evil and that there are forces other than human?
00:21:14.000And by the way, one of the reasons I'm uncomfortable talking about it is because I hate to sort of hold myself up as an advertisement for the world's largest faith or pretend to be a spokesman for God.
00:21:26.000I think you bring disaster upon yourself when you do that, I've noticed.
00:21:29.000I mean, there's a reason that preachers are disproportionately likely to get caught up in sex scandals or get addicted to porn or smoke meth.
00:21:38.000The second you say, I represent a billion Christians, You were under attack and so I I certainly don't represent a billion Christians or Christianity or Jesus or anything like that I'm as flawed as anybody you'll ever meet more than most and so I just want to say that with sincerity at the outset but to answer your question you know I always believed that the sum total of
00:21:59.000Everything was probably a little bit bigger than what we could measure.
00:22:02.000You know, that our senses don't tell the whole story.
00:22:03.000And I've always believed in the possibility of a god of supernatural forces because it seemed obvious to me.
00:22:11.000And it's obvious from your own experience in life.
00:24:21.000So I really I'm interested in how people construct arguments and in their nature and all of a sudden people stop making arguments on behalf of abortion and begin holding it up as just like something that was just good for its own sake and and stop they didn't even attempt to convince you that you weren't taking a human life the presumption is that you are of course and with technology we know that you are
00:24:42.000And so they're basically saying killing people is a good thing.
00:24:45.000And I thought, well, that's just a kind of remarkable thing to say.
00:24:49.000And then I found out, because I was interested, that that is what every society has said in recorded history.
00:24:55.000Every society, from the ones that, you know, are very famous, the ancient Canaanites, the Mayans, the Aztecs, all the Mesoamerican civilizations, but also the Western European civilizations, my own, where my ancestors lived, you know, in the Nordic countries.
00:25:07.000They were also committing human sacrifice.
00:25:10.000There's something about killing other people ritually as an offering to the spirit world that is a constant through human history.
00:25:25.000How would, like, that's such a counterintuitive conclusion to come to.
00:25:28.000I kill people like so evolutionary biology tells us that the whole point of existence is to continue existence is to pass on your genes to another generation and then many more right that that's the assumption that I have my whole life and yet every civilization from the beginning of time has reached the opposite conclusion we will be happier by killing the fruit of our womb children And we will be rewarded by the gods for doing this.
00:25:54.000Every single civilization has reached that conclusion without any exception that I'm aware of.
00:26:10.000And that there are demons telling people that you will be happier, that you will be safer, that you will be richer, You'll be more powerful if you take the life of a child.
00:26:23.000Or of a maiden, or of some helpless human being.
00:26:28.000It's never the elderly who are the... And they like it because it's stealing the future and a child is the closest thing to God because of the potential of the universe, so it is a wound against God.
00:26:39.000But, so from, but, look, civilizations convince themselves of all kinds of crazy things, right?
00:26:46.000But when every civilization convinces itself of the same crazy thing, That is not an obvious conclusion.
00:26:54.000Like, if I'm, you know, a Hivero Indian living in the Amazon headwaters, and just getting enough calories every year is really a struggle, right?
00:27:02.000And I need labor, because there aren't many Hivero Indians, but I've somehow reached a conclusion that killing my own child would, you know, make my life better.
00:27:12.000Like, how am I reaching that conclusion?
00:27:13.000Like, I'm not reaching that rationally.
00:27:15.000Something or somebody is telling me that.
00:28:42.000Well, Christ says in the New Testament, he spends the whole time criticizing the Pharisees and Sadducees and saying they pray in public, they act like they're God, they get in front of you in God.
00:28:50.000He's like, pray in private to God, open up your heart, the kingdom of heaven is with you.
00:28:54.000You're not God, but you are able to reach out directly, not through some priest, not through some preacher, but directly to God. It's great to go to church, there are other people that are looking for God,
00:29:03.000there's a psychic connection, it boosts it, but Satan is smart. He, one of the worst places is the churches because that's where he lays the traps.
00:29:10.000I think that's all true. And I just go back to what I said when we first sat down, which is, why have you been singled out for abuse and persecution? Why?
00:29:24.000And it, I'm just, like, I'm in the business of trying to figure out, usually unsuccessfully, but why things happen.
00:29:36.000And the fact that you, specifically you, Alex Jones, for the last 20 years, have been attacked in the way that you have been, even when you're on, like, cable access television, like a threat to nobody.
00:30:09.000I don't have your full, like, lifetime corpus in front of me, but I know that you predicted, in detail, 9-11 the summer before it happened.
00:30:42.000Now I'm not saying everything you say is like prophecy from God, but I'm saying that's supernatural because I can't think of a natural explanation.
00:30:54.000If you want to know, there it is right there.
00:30:57.000If July 25th, 2001, I lived in this country, I was in the news business on July 25th, 2001, I was an employee of the Cable News Network in Washington.
00:31:07.000Trust me, we had every national security poobah on there, every retired CIA operative, some current CIA operatives, talking about this stuff all the time.
00:31:15.000Not one person came within a mile of what you said on some cable access show in Texas.
00:31:38.000And that's a pretty reliable guide to what's actually happening.
00:31:41.000So shifting gears away from me, what is it about Tucker Carlson that makes him so mad?
00:31:46.000Because you make a lot of predictions and accurate things, but you're even more strong and this is not an assassin contest, we're talking about why the enemy hates us because
00:32:02.000I think it's that you are definitely genuine, very smart, articulate, and are able to reach Reach out across political lines and unify people.
00:32:10.000And all you're trying to do is save civilization and our future.
00:32:15.000CNN and the usual suspects, Brian Stelter's mini-me, Oliver Darcy, is running around trying to get Ticketmaster to pull and shut down your tour.
00:32:24.000I mean, why are they so scared of you?
00:33:52.000But I really was kind of like I had my views and I was conservative, but basically I was a defender of the system.
00:33:58.000Because I thought it was worth defending, and it was only eight or nine years ago that I realized, wait, this is really dishonest and wrong, and a lot of the things that they're telling me are the mirror image of the truth.
00:34:11.000They're not just incorrect, they're an inversion.
00:34:29.000You had real reasons for it, and I could get the things I was saying were so horrible that only a horrible person would say it when somebody is still projecting their own goodness onto things.
00:34:37.000So, but what was your, then, the last 12 years, your acceleration until now?
00:34:42.000I would say, I watch your show every day when you do them.
00:34:45.000I think you say things, most of the time, deeper than what anybody else is saying.
00:35:07.000But anyway, it's hard really to know, but I, you know, living in Washington in the same neighborhood for years, and I mean, I got there in high school.
00:35:26.000And watching people I knew personally who I, you know, stood next to at soccer games, like at that level, lie and Sort of, rather than defend what they were doing, attack the person who questioned it.
00:35:42.000I found that so low, that was so shocking to me, to watch smart people become that defensive about what they were doing, that it opened up a chain reaction in my head.
00:35:51.000I was like, well, wait a second, if they can't defend something as simple as NATO, they couldn't defend, like, why do we have NATO?
00:36:17.000So when I saw that at the beginning of the Trump, it was really about Trump.
00:36:21.000I mean, it wasn't actually about Trump the man, You know, but it was about that moment in 2015-16 and I just thought, well, I have an obligation to see what I think is true and to keep pulling the thread.
00:36:36.000And that happened to be exactly the moment that I got a new job at Fox and had a bigger platform.
00:36:41.000And I just thought, you know, I don't know how long I'm going to have this, but I'm going to tell the truth.
00:36:45.000You know, with the knowledge I'm going to get it wrong often, which I of course do, but I'm not going to lie.
00:36:53.000And the more, you know, the more I did try and tell the truth, just without any caveats at all, the bigger reaction I got, a negative reaction, like people really, really hated that.
00:37:05.000And then I just dug in and I thought to myself, I don't care what you do to me, actually.
00:38:35.000I feel that way overwhelmingly, actually.
00:38:37.000In fact, I have to restrain myself because I don't want to be barged about it.
00:38:41.000But I feel, and dogs also, I feel in a way that's hard to explain, but that those things are really important.
00:38:48.000I think God speaks to us through them, I think.
00:38:50.000But even message aside, they're such enduring sources of joy.
00:38:56.000I mean, that's so much more powerful and Fulfilling for me to be in the woods with my dogs than it is to be sitting in front of a laptop, which I don't own, by the way.
00:39:09.000But even if I did own a laptop and had to sit in front of it, I would still yearn to be outside.
00:39:23.000Anything that connects you with God's creation for just a moment every day is every bit as important as going to the gym and getting your cardio or whatever they call it.
00:39:58.000And I could see, like, this is a real outdoorsman, like my grandfather or something.
00:40:02.000I hope you do some outdoor shows, because if people saw that side of you, they'd be blown away.
00:40:08.000Well, I've always thought that cameras were corrupting.
00:40:10.000I mean, we didn't have... That's what I picked up.
00:40:13.000This is your real life, so that's like private.
00:40:18.000Well, so I sort of feel, oh gosh, yeah, I sort of feel that way.
00:40:21.000I do think cameras are, I mean, the most intimate moments of your life should not be filmed.
00:40:27.000You know, the birth of your child, the conception of your child, you know, the best dinner party you ever had, you know, a drive with your son in the car where you talk about life.
00:40:37.000Like, these are not things that are, you know, being filmed for others.
00:40:41.000These are real moments that are lived out in real time and experienced You know, as they happen, not in retrospect.
00:41:55.000But I think getting a respite from that is important because it restores perspective.
00:42:01.000And if you have the chance to, you know, use a candle instead of an electric light or use an outhouse instead of a flush toilet once in a while, I think it's good for you.
00:42:30.000There should be some counterbalance to the propaganda from Google and the power company that we'd all be nothing without, you know, electricity and microchips.
00:42:45.000And I also think, honestly, that technology can be, while life-saving, you know, if my child had a medical problem, I would hope he went to a doctor, you know, who had access to electricity and machines and all that.
00:43:33.000But the idea that we're sending credit cards to college students and hooking them on Debt at 28% interest and nobody knows the names of the credit card executives who are getting rich from the suffering of hundreds of millions of Americans is shocking to me.
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00:45:00.000Like we should have at least one person saying that maybe everyone else is on the side of of finance which is to say money lending but maybe we should have one person who's like yeah
00:45:08.000I'm not sure it's a good idea to be in debt to someone else because then that person controls you and you're no longer free like duh you know what I mean?
00:45:32.000So in the time we have left here, this is an incredible interview, I literally wrote 60 plus questions and I've gotten about 10 of them.
00:45:39.000But let's shift gears back into one of the few questions I asked your crew for, because we don't like pre-programming these interviews, but I said, what's something Tucker wants to talk about?
00:45:49.000We've already kind of talked a lot about that, but specifically, let's speak to how do we stop World War III, and then the election, the lawfare, everything backfiring on the establishment.
00:45:58.000My concern is What are they going to pull?
00:46:01.000Well, right on time, the bird flu, they're trying to relaunch that.
00:46:04.000Right on time, they're saying terrorists are about to attack if they open the borders up.
00:46:08.000Right on time, they're trying to accelerate the war with Russia.
00:46:12.000I mean, clearly, they're going to pull some October surprise.
00:46:20.000I mean, my instinct for two years has been that the war in Ukraine, the U.S.
00:46:26.000war against Russia, Will change world history and certainly change American history and will have an effect on this election.
00:46:34.000I really think that's the biggest thing happening right now.
00:46:36.000There are a lot of big things happening but that's the only one with the potential to kill us all in the next three months.
00:46:42.000So I do think that will play a role in this election because of course wartime gives government wartime powers and those are very different from peacetime powers.
00:46:51.000Abraham Lincoln who I think was a good man in a lot of ways but became of course a dictator In the middle of civil war and suspended habeas corpus and detained people without charging them and etc, etc.
00:47:02.000So even I think, you know, even decent men tend to become Winston Churchill, put the entire opposition party in prison with their wives for the duration of the Second World War.
00:47:15.000I don't think Churchill was the most evil man in history.
00:47:19.000And so even good people can become fascist during wartime, and almost always do.
00:47:25.000So that's something to remember, I think.
00:47:28.000As to what we can do about it, well, we can do what we're doing, which is to try and tell the truth without fear, as clearly as we can, as thoughtfully as we can, as non-hysterically, as persuasively as we can.
00:47:38.000But I think the main thing that we can do is recognize our inability to really do anything, because we're not in charge, actually.
00:47:44.000And so what you can do is become a better person, a more virtuous person, and say your freakin' prayers.
00:47:54.000Because at a certain point, like, countries get what they want.
00:47:57.000And if, you know, all of a sudden you wake up in a country where, you know, a lot of people are convinced it's more virtuous to abort a child than to have a child, People are convinced that, like, war with Russia is somehow really important because Neville Chamberlain bad or whatever.
00:48:24.000And then part of me says, you know, but don't don't fool yourself.
00:48:27.000Like, talking about things Is not in the end, you know, the same as like commanding an army or being God.
00:48:35.000Like you can't, your power is limited.
00:48:37.000And so I think it's important to appeal to a higher power.
00:48:41.000If this is a spiritual war, and clearly it is, just on, I mean, I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I've just tried to contain it to like the logical unpacking of it.
00:48:48.000I don't see what else it could be other than a spiritual war.
00:48:51.000Well, Tucker, I think you're being very, I think you're being very healthy.
00:48:55.000Being humble, but you are doing something about it.
00:49:12.000January 6th, Puppet Committee has destroyed all their evidence because it showed the truth that they were engineering it.
00:49:18.000The new Pelosi video admitting they basically had to stand down.
00:49:21.000They wouldn't let the National Guard out.
00:49:22.000We walked, I was there, we walked into a trap on that.
00:49:25.000We saw Pelosi then With the military parades that she was there inspecting and the barbed wire and all these really fascistic totalitarian things we saw and now they're all over the news as you know saying they're training militias, right-wingers, terrorists, they're going to attack.
00:49:44.000They're pre-programming that, and just like with the fake Governor Whitmer kidnapping, I don't believe, I know, because they've done this before and they're telegraphing it, they're planning to try to trigger civil unrest if they build a civil war.
00:49:56.000They've got the movies out, they've got it all pre-programmed.
00:49:59.000That's another one of my big concerns.
00:51:06.000And they will do something very much like that, of course.
00:51:09.000But I don't think that that should deter people from Saying what they think is true and being bold in doing that.
00:51:18.000And so, for example, Trump is being sentenced on July 11th, so a week before the Republican convention, and they may remand him, they may send him right to jail.
00:51:30.000I mean, there are two ways to respond.
00:51:31.000One, Is by, you know, doing what they say, doing a press conference from jail, they're persecuting me the other way, and I can't recommend the better way, but there is another way, which is to say, no, this is completely illegitimate, I'm not going to jail, this is a fake crime, you never would have indicted me for it if I hadn't been challenging your power, if I wasn't running for president, I wouldn't be sentenced to jail right now, that's just a fact, everyone knows that's true, this whole process is a sham, I don't believe in your system, my ancestors created this system, and you've taken it over somehow,
00:52:01.000And perverted it into something unrecognizable.
00:52:45.000I've tried to be Gandhi-esque and have said, you know, never be violent in any way, offensively.
00:52:51.000But there comes a point with civil disobedience where these are kangaroo courts, it's all been proven, and this is the other political party that's tried to take him off the ballot and been caught at every level rigging these cases, and it's all blown up their face, where Trump then finally says, no, I'm staying here at Mar-a-Lago, this is a fraud, I'm not going.
00:53:10.000The problem is then the deep state stages terror attacks, blames Trump supporters for it.
00:53:14.000And so Trump currently saying, I don't mind going to jail.
00:53:16.000He's going to put himself in jail in Rikers Island.
00:53:18.000My concern is they might poison or kill him.
00:53:22.000And then clearly he has secret service because presidents are under threat and political assassination goes on all the time.
00:53:28.000They just pumped a month ago, five bullets in the Slovakian.
00:53:32.000President FICO and they're trying to kill the other leaders, I mean, this is what happens at the start of a major world war, so it's very paradoxical, so can you quantify, I don't
00:53:42.000think you're calling for either in a way, but you're just basically putting on the table what the options are of what's happening.
00:53:52.000I mean, I have no idea what the right answer is.
00:53:54.000I'm, thank God, not facing a decision like that.
00:54:09.000This is a husk of a system built by other people hundreds of years ago that has been taken over by new people who perverted its original intent.
00:54:19.000Harvard University was the place where the smartest people in the country went.
00:54:23.000Now it's a place where you go based on your sex and your race, and the standards have been dropped dramatically, and the rest of us pretend that this zombie institution is the institution that we remember.
00:54:35.000I mean, in Zimbabwe, at the height of Mugabe's reign of terror against whites, he used the British, effectively Anglo justice system in place in Zimbabwe to crush the people whose ancestors built it.
00:54:52.000It had bore no resemblance whatsoever to the system that had been in place before Mugabe got there, except, you know, the outward, you know, affectations are all the same.
00:56:12.000imagine they're going to do if they're able to steal it again? What do you see unfolding there and what will they do if they retain power in this
00:56:20.000societal coup? Well what won't they do? I mean they're trying to put the front-runner in the presidential race in prison for the rest of his life
00:56:32.000for things that are not crimes. So that just I mean that it answers its own Like, they will do anything.
00:56:42.000I mean, I do think the formality of these elections is really irksome to them.
00:56:47.000They hate the whole idea that people they despise would have a role in choosing the government or have any power whatsoever or be disobedient in any way.
00:57:57.000And we just grew up, I'll speak for myself, I grew up in a world so insulated from reality, In 1985, America was just so rich, effectively unchallenged internationally, so stable domestically, that you never really had to face human nature.
00:58:12.000Well, now we do have to face human nature, and human nature is, you know, both good and bad, and there's certainly ugly parts of it.
00:58:17.000I mean, as, you know, as in Jeremiah, it says, who knows the depravity of the human heart?
00:58:22.000Like, it's like, they're capable, people are capable of anything, at their worst.
00:58:57.000And if you're going to participate in it, speaking for myself in a nonviolent way, know that telling the truth and you're a living example of this is enough to get you killed.
00:59:06.000Telling the truth is that offensive to the people in charge because they're not just liars.
00:59:41.000And when you have that attitude, you have a vibrant, powerful civilization, but when you're always cowering to whoever's bullying you, then the worst bullies ascend to power.
00:59:49.000There was a famous interview with the newspaper, Thomas Jefferson, it's where the quote comes from of all the evil men and tyrants need to flourish as good men do nothing, the newspaper
00:59:58.000interviewer said, "Well, what's the level that tyrants will go?"
01:00:01.000And he said, whatever level you accept, because there's always one worse that will replace them.
01:00:15.000I would just say, you know, part of it is like, I don't think I'll ever figure out in my lifetime until I'm dead.
01:00:21.000Um, what went on, you know, over the past 10 years, it's too confusing, you know, and I don't think any person can fully understand the moment he's living in.
01:00:31.000But it does seem pretty clear to me that generational affluence has made America a lot weaker.
01:01:53.000We are pleased, in fact, thrilled to announce Tucker Carlson live, which is what it sounds like, a nationwide tour that at every show will be joined by a
01:05:16.000But I would say they hate Trump for reasons that are not obvious.
01:05:20.000So if what they wanted was a certain policy outcome, Trump is not very ideological.
01:05:26.000So if the most important thing to Permanent Washington was continuing to fund Zelensky, and that is very important to them, then they would just say, look, We're going to shut off all campaign donations and send you to prison until you agree to fund Ukraine forever.
01:05:39.000And Trump will probably say, OK, it's worth it.
01:05:42.000I mean, they want that, but that's not what it's about.
01:05:45.000They understand, and by they I mean the bipartisan coalition that runs Washington and has for decades and has really run America into the ground and mismanaged the world to the point we're on the cusp of nuclear war.
01:06:05.000I think the last election was a sham, even if it was real.
01:06:08.000The majority of the population does not support their program, so they don't have a democratic mandate, which is to say a legitimate mandate.
01:06:14.000In a democracy, legitimacy derives from the population.
01:06:16.000If most people don't support something, then it's not legitimate, right?
01:06:21.000They don't have that, so they know they're illegitimate.
01:06:24.000They know that if they lose, they're going to face consequences to some extent.
01:06:28.000Probably not great consequences, let's be honest, but some consequences.
01:06:31.000But more to the point, when you are fragile, when you realize that people don't really support you, when you know that you're illegitimate, when you know you've committed criminal acts, and they have, a lot of them, Then any chink in the armor is potentially fatal, because you are weak.
01:07:32.000And isn't that Trump's biggest success, Tucker, is that he's drawn out the deep state?
01:07:36.000Well that is his success, but they can't allow him... I've only reached this conclusion recently because it's not obvious as a political analysis.
01:07:46.000There are other ways to get what you want than what they're doing.
01:07:49.000But Trump as a symbol is deadly to them.
01:07:54.000If Trump is elected again, Their whole system, like they fear that their whole system and not just the government but you know the spider web of NGOs and publicly traded businesses.
01:08:23.000Well, I just think as a symbol, that you're absolutely right, but as a symbol, if he becomes president, what does it suggest?
01:08:30.000It suggests that their whole sort of empire of bullshit is collapsing.
01:08:37.000And they've said that in the Financial Times and Atlantic Monthly, which is their mouthpiece, they said, if the populists get Trump in again, it's over because it emboldens the populists.
01:08:48.000I mean, just imagine running what you describe as a constitutional republic or a democracy and waking up one morning and finding that your greatest fear is that the majority will get what it wants.
01:08:59.000You would think some self-awareness alarm would go off and be like, wait a second, isn't the whole point of this project to deliver to the majority what it wants because they own the government, not me?
01:09:12.000I don't know what they actually think.
01:09:14.000All I know is that they've decided that, and I think it's absurd, I think permanent Washington could easily outlive another four years of Trump, just as it did the first four years of Trump.
01:10:20.000Um, but I don't, I don't think like shooting people in public is, uh, you know, it's, it's a little bit obvious at this point, but there are, there are lots of ways that like, honestly, if you think this is a spiritual war and you're not saying prayers every day, then you don't really think it's a spiritual war.
01:10:44.000And these are physical manifestations of an age old conflict.
01:10:50.000I mean, literally age old, since the beginning of time, this conflict has been playing out.
01:10:55.000And we have the privilege of, of knowing that, like, this is kind of the last conclusion I ever thought I would come to in my life.
01:11:01.000Growing up in a materialist, rational world in Southern California in the 70s and 80s, if you told me that by 55 I'd be like sitting talking to Alex Jones about how we're in a spiritual war, I'd be like, what?
01:11:30.000To me, The dark forces spiritually manipulating and controlling these minions, these failures, these fallen clown show vassals who really are just spiritual puppets, they're scared of something coming.
01:11:42.000And if you study the Bible and other ancient religions, they talk about not the fake liberal New Age stuff, but humans going next level.
01:11:52.000And I'm seeing a splitting away, people that get more into darkness, more dumbed down, or people Really becoming more attuned, more connected, more aware.
01:11:59.000It's not just you and I, or Joe Rogan waking up, or Jimmy Dore, or Russell Brand, or everybody.
01:12:05.000And notice how all the popular people, despite censorship and attack, are people that are pro-human.
01:12:29.000Well, I mean, I think this is an attempt to extinguish humanity.
01:12:33.000You know, if you're a Christian, and I can't speak for other religions, so I think this is kind of a commonly held belief among all world religions, or most anyway, but certainly if you're a Christian, you believe that Mankind, people, were created in God's image.
01:12:45.000We're not gods, but God created us in His image.
01:12:48.000So if your program is to oppose God, then by definition you're going to want to kill all the people.
01:12:55.000So it makes sense theologically, it makes sense intuitively, and I sincerely believe that that is exactly what's happening.
01:15:47.000For me, the great part about being on Earth 30 years, you 30 plus years, is the learning process of trying to tell the truth, trying to learn the truth, getting more and more accurate, still make mistakes.
01:15:56.000But for me, when I meet black, white, Hispanic, old, young, Asian, it doesn't matter, people that love liberty, that love freedom, they have electric eyes.
01:16:06.000And the children of those people have electric eyes like they did 20, 30 years ago.
01:16:11.000There's like a soullessness in people now that aren't awake, that are disconnected.
01:16:14.000So to me, the journey is the destination.
01:16:18.000And to me, it's getting to meet all the really awake people This is amazing!
01:16:23.000And then I get around Globalist, not as much as you've been around over the years, but I've been to some of the events and I've had private meetings with them when they want to meet.
01:16:28.000I met with some of the Bilderberg Group members and Kissinger tried to get me 15 years ago to work for him, did it in front of my producer.
01:16:35.000They feel so unhappy and I feel an emptiness, but I'm around you and your wife and your dogs and your crew are around all, just old men, people fishing at a pier.
01:17:04.000But what I didn't mention, and shame on me for not, is the upside of the moment, which is the people.
01:17:10.000I mean, you wind up meeting these people in so many cases.
01:17:13.000I had dinner last night or two nights ago in my barn with somebody, a well-known person, who I never in a million years thought I would ever have a meal with.
01:17:20.000And it turns out we had everything in common.
01:17:22.000And this is one of the people you described, an awake person, who was not where he expected to be, reached conclusions he never thought he would reach.
01:17:29.000He's got opinions that were repugnant to him 10 years ago, as do I. And how beautiful is that?
01:17:35.000Because People like that are liberated from the burden of having to pretend they don't.
01:17:44.000I mean, all of us lie, you know, and if you caught me doing something terrible today, I probably would lie, you know, but it would be a huge burden.
01:17:51.000And once you feel like, well, I don't have to do that anymore, like there's no reason to do that.
01:18:16.000But it is also true, and because I've seen known these people, that it's possible to lock a man in a concrete room with no windows and He can be free anyway inside because it is an internal thing, actually.
01:18:31.000And when you meet someone who has reached that or is in the process of reaching it, it's just thrilling.
01:18:37.000You just want to be around people like that.
01:18:39.000So the bottom line is my friendships are so much deeper now than they were 10 years ago.
01:18:46.000Like I have conversations every single day with people that are so deep And rewarding for me, that make me feel so good, so connected to another person, which is the whole purpose of life, break the veil, connect.
01:18:59.000I mean, that's what sex is, you know, connect with someone.
01:19:02.000But to do that just in conversation with people is thrilling.
01:19:07.000And it happens many times more often now than it did 10 years ago.
01:19:11.00010 years ago, once a month, I'd be like, wow, I met this amazing person.
01:19:13.000I was about to say, I swear to God, we're simpatico.
01:19:17.000I was gonna say 10 years ago, it happened like once a month.
01:19:38.000You know, it's almost like I get into bed at night and I've got two dogs under my arms and it's like, I don't think a lot about what that means.
01:19:46.000It's like, it's just a, it's a, it's a gut level animal joy that I experience when I really connect with someone in a real way.
01:19:53.000I think that is one of the main reasons that we're on this earth to do that.
01:19:57.000Well dogs are so honest, and I said this to my parents like 30 years ago, I said dogs are like a psychic buffer.
01:20:02.000They're even more psychic than us, but they don't even have a mission except to love you and be part of the group, and it's unconditional love.
01:20:08.000I mean you feel the love of a dog that loves you.
01:20:11.000People that have really mean dogs, I go to their house and say, why does my dog suddenly love you?
01:20:17.000So in the few minutes, 10 minutes we have left Tucker, I think it's clear that we're at a major crossroads and inflection point, the biggest in human civilization that we know of.
01:20:31.000So speak about where you think we are in history, and then you've talked about the Nephilim that are in the Bible.
01:20:37.000And you're just, and I know the globalists, I know some of the elites, they're obsessed, you know, that's what the movie Prometheus is, it's what they really believe.
01:20:43.000None of them are really atheists at the top.
01:20:45.000They believe that aliens put us here, that they're about to learn the secrets and become gods, but first they've got to do the sacrifice and survival of the fittest, but you get criticized for that.
01:20:54.000We have all these UAVs that are doing, you know, Mach 100 and, you know, turning on perfect lines that, you know, And none of our machines can do.
01:21:03.000So just the infinite, to me, admitting there's an infinite makes these globalists even smaller when they try to have their big events and all their big fanfare and the trumpets playing.
01:21:12.000They want us to believe they're everything, they're really nothing.
01:21:15.000So I've said a lot there, but we're at a crossroads and you talk about what's in the Bible and the Sumerian text and all these other ancient texts around the world say the exact same
01:21:25.000thing and I don't think they want us understanding that.
01:21:28.000But it's like they've gotten some order by some other group, like the Bible says the devil's marooned here, wants to kill us, kill, steal, and destroy until we actually carry
01:21:37.000out the real mission and what we're about to do like a, like a caterpillar in a cocoon About to come out and be a butterfly.
01:21:50.000I mean, it does feel like we're moving toward, you know, toward some resolution of a long-standing problem.
01:21:56.000But, you know, that may not be the case.
01:21:58.000You can't... Let me just say, parenthetically, I adamantly agree with your point that our understanding of history is not supported by the archaeological or geologic record, okay?
01:22:11.000I'm not sure what the truth is, but clearly the story we were told is not true.
01:22:16.000So there's that. By the way, interrupt real quick. Did you know the WEF is running around the world suppressing hundreds of archaeological digs with the UN right now where they're now saying the environmental thing to do is not dig up this?
01:22:26.000You just said it, but why don't they want this dug up? I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead.
01:22:30.000No, I didn't know that, but that's absolutely perfect.
01:22:37.000There's been an extraordinary effort on the part of various authorities over the last hundred or so years to suppress and distort archaeology.
01:23:12.000If there's one message from the propaganda from the various federal agencies and journalism companies involved in lying about UAPs, it's the supernatural is not real.
01:23:38.000And you're probably not going to go broke betting on the opposite being true, I would say.
01:23:42.000But as for where we are in history, it's unknowable.
01:23:45.000And if you're a Christian, you will notice.
01:23:47.000In all the prophetic apocalyptic writings in the Bible, which I've read, there is consistently a warning to people reading these, like, you don't know, actually.
01:23:57.000And the end of history comes, I think I'm quoting, like a thief in the night.
01:25:09.000In other words, if I'm a Buddhist or a Hindu or a Zoroastrian, it doesn't matter what my religion is, and I'm running a country, I want a country full of Christians.
01:25:20.000Because they're civic-minded, I know for a fact they're not going to foment bloody revolution against me because their religion tells them not to.
01:25:27.000They're peaceful, they're hard-working, they stay married, they're not out doing crazy things.
01:25:55.000There's only a spiritual goal that is served by opposing Christianity.
01:26:00.000In closing, you're the master at ever plugging all the great things you're doing, your show, your network, the great lab of integrity.
01:26:06.000We're going to do that in a moment, but since we bring this up, Elon Musk.
01:26:10.000I judge a tree by its fruits, as Christ said, and Musk is involved in all the big high-tech things that could have Trojan horses and issues, but I see him pivoting.
01:26:18.000From being, you know, moderately globalist to at the World Government Forum last year saying, world government's bad, it's tyranny, we're against it.
01:26:27.000I see him attacked by all these governments from Australia to Brazil to the EU, trying to arrest him.
01:26:32.000And I see him reaching hundreds, the only thing bigger than Tucker Carlson, he kind of goes, well it doesn't kind of go, it goes, It's great.
01:26:49.000The second most influential person in the world in thought today.
01:26:54.000Even above Joe Rogan it's not a contest it's just you have to recognize it is Tucker Carlson with all the choices you've made the things you've done and you're a humble man that's why God's given you this power but but we're there Elon Musk because I cannot bitch at a gift horse I cannot look at somebody where I'm reaching 10-15 million people a day on X and I'm not being censored and the real me can be seen and they're like well he's doing this he's doing that but you know Elon what you Give us a few minutes on Elon Musk, because I think he needs to be protected and defended.
01:28:13.000And you notice it immediately in the downstream effects are super obvious.
01:28:17.000People are less afraid to say what they think is true, as compared to last year, certainly as compared to three years ago, when people literally couldn't even ask.
01:28:54.000In the same way the United States was an inspiration to the world for a hundred years, post-World War I, because we had liberal democracy and market capitalism and it seemed to kind of work.
01:29:03.000And everyone's like, oh yeah, I don't want to just buy the Coca-Cola and the Levi's.
01:29:07.000I want the system that produced the Coca-Cola and the Levi's.
01:29:10.000We didn't even need a State Department or a USIA to make that case.
01:29:13.000People just watched and they're like, yeah, that works.
01:32:30.000Or the society is, you know, having problems.
01:32:31.000And the left's so mad they don't have kids, they want to take it away from us.
01:32:34.000Notice, those that don't have kids form the core of the globalist death cult because they're pissed they didn't have it, they want to take it away.
01:32:41.000But they're literally, it's more than just like some people don't have kids, it's like they're promoting not having kids.
01:32:47.000By promoting, you know, the LBGTQ three-spirit agenda, of course, that's what that is.
01:32:54.000It's not about tolerating people who are different, which almost every American is just instinctively happy to do, very much including me.
01:33:18.000And I just think it's kind of that clear.
01:33:20.000And if you find yourself on the side that's against people, against babies, against reproducing, against reproductive sex, against joy, human connection, like you're on the wrong side, actually.
01:33:34.000As to what I'm doing, everything to me is about getting What I believe out there, disseminating a message, what I think is true, if it's false, of course I'll correct, which I have many times.
01:33:48.000It's like I have a monopoly on truth, but I really believe what I say, and I want people to hear it, if they want to.
01:33:53.000I want them to have the chance to do that.
01:33:54.000So censorship is the single biggest obstacle, not simply to my job, but to human freedom and flourishing.
01:34:45.000So it gives you total independence and they're like missionaries backing you, like families of fun missionaries to go out and then reach hundreds of millions of people.
01:35:02.000Second thing we're doing this fall is taking it on the road in live events.
01:35:07.000You can't, you know, Google has no control over a stadium speech.
01:35:12.000You don't, they can't rearrange the search results when you're speaking live on stage to people who paid a ticket to be there.
01:35:18.000Now, you do have problems with venues that come under enormous pressure.
01:35:23.000CNN is trying to shut down this tour, which is crazy.
01:35:27.000When I worked at CNN 20 years ago, 25 years ago, it was a, pretended to be a news organization.
01:35:32.000They weren't in the business of preventing people from getting information, but now, of course, that's their only mission.
01:35:38.000But anyway, I don't think it's going to work.
01:35:40.000And by the way, if every single venue pulls out because CNN demands it, because I questioned the VAX or something, then we'll just do it in a field with loudspeakers.
01:35:54.000If we have to get a tent or stand in the rain and yell, I will do it.
01:35:58.000And we're doing it from California To the East Coast, from New York to California and everywhere in between the entire month of September, probably some of October.
01:36:06.000We've got 15 dates, probably doing more.
01:36:08.000The tickets of all the pre-sales are gone.
01:36:23.000Um, Russell Brand, you know, every people who you know and take seriously and love in some cases will be coming up and on stage at every event.
01:36:53.000You know what can't be changed in a generation?
01:36:55.000The Rocky Mountains, the Great Plains, the forests of northern New England.
01:36:59.000I want to see the country Oh, the globalists are at war with rural people and the forgotten people and they love you.
01:37:05.000I love the fact that, because they're desperate to shut this down because this is going to be like a whole other Trump campaign, but with an even, I'm not putting Trump down, an even better speaker.
01:37:14.000And hey, I'm so blessed to be involved in the dates.
01:38:43.000To announce Tucker Carlson Live, which is what it sounds like, a nationwide tour that at every show will be joined by a friend, a special guest, Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck, Tulsi Gabbard, Vivek Ramaswamy, Russell Brand, and many others.
01:38:56.000We're going to be live on stage responding to everything that is happening in real time.
01:39:00.000It's going to be fun as hell and interesting.
01:39:04.000You can get tickets at TuckerCarlson.com.
01:39:07.000We encourage you to get one and we'll see you there.
01:39:10.000Many years ago I coined the term 360 win.
01:39:20.000That's another way of saying it's a non-zero-sum game.
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