Alex Jones Show - 20240614_Fri_Alex

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00:00:12.000 What we're witnessing here is lawfare and the weaponization of the legal system.

00:00:30.000 I was the test case for what's now being done to President Trump, Steve Bannon, and others.

00:00:36.000 This is an attempt at digital Assassination.

00:00:40.000 I never said or did any of the things they claimed on Sandy Hook.

00:00:44.000 Two judges in Texas and Connecticut found me guilty by default and then had literal show trials on how guilty I was.

00:00:52.000 The billion and a half dollar verdict is a fraud.

00:00:55.000 The judges had already told the juries that I was guilty.

00:01:00.000 Now we've been in bankruptcy for almost two years proving that everything they claimed about me having hundreds of millions of dollars was not true.

00:01:08.000 Notice you don't hear about that anymore.

00:01:09.000 None of that was true.

00:01:11.000 And now instead of wanting the money that is there, The so-called plaintiffs, who really aren't the families, it's the government that's been behind it that's come out in court, want me silenced.

00:01:22.000 They said on the courthouse steps, the plaintiff's lawyers, in Texas and Connecticut, we want Alex Jones silenced.

00:01:28.000 That's what this is all about.

00:01:31.000 This is about the destruction of the First Amendment in America and now the plaintiff's lawyers, Democratic Party lawyers out of Connecticut have filed today to try to take real Alex Jones on X away from me, now they want my identity.

00:01:45.000 Under the terms of service of X, you cannot do that because it's my own personal property.

00:01:51.000 These people want me silenced.

00:01:53.000 It is completely and totally transparent and the world is seeing through this.

00:01:59.000 I was asked by one reporter earlier, is this the end?

00:02:03.000 This is probably the end of InfoWars here very, very soon, if not today, in the next few weeks or months.

00:02:09.000 But it's just the beginning of my fight against tyranny.

00:02:12.000 As the founder of the US Navy said, During the Revolutionary War, John Paul Jones, when his ship, about a third the size of the British ship he was fighting, was starting to sink, the British officers hailed across on their bullhorn and said, would you like to surrender?

00:02:25.000 And he said, surrender?

00:02:26.000 I have only begun to fight.

00:02:29.000 People know I've been right.

00:02:30.000 They know what I really cover.

00:02:32.000 Tens of millions of people a day want to hear what I actually have to say, not what the corporate media says.

00:02:36.000 The corporate media have become mercenaries.

00:02:39.000 For the globalists, for BlackRock, for the WEF, and the public knows that.

00:02:43.000 So the power structure, not just here but around the world, is in full collapse.

00:02:48.000 The corporate media is basically dead in a shadow of its former self because it's become a prostitute of the big corporations and tried to wage war against the independent popular press.

00:03:00.000 All the most popular hosts, not just here but around the world, are populist anti-globalists.

00:03:04.000 Whether it's Tucker Carlson, Or Joe Rogan, or Alex Jones, or Russell Brand.

00:03:09.000 The list goes on and on.

00:03:11.000 Joe Rogan has an audience 100 times that of CNN.

00:03:14.000 I have an audience 15 times that of CNN.

00:03:17.000 Tucker Carlson has an audience 100 times the size of CNN.

00:03:21.000 CNN and other corporate media like it are zombies.

00:03:23.000 They are empty husks that no one believes or listens to anymore.

00:03:28.000 And so this is a desperate deep state attempt using lawfare to shut me down and silence me.

00:03:33.000 Judge Lopez has been fair.

00:03:34.000 He's followed the law.

00:03:36.000 He's been very frustrated by the fact that The plaintiffs do not want money and have admitted it and have only used the bankruptcy process to try to torture me and harass me.

00:03:44.000 It's done the opposite.

00:03:45.000 My resolve against this tyranny has never been stronger and I will not be silenced.

00:03:51.000 I'm given hundreds of interview opportunities a day.

00:03:54.000 I've got all these incredible groups They want to work for me or work with me.

00:03:59.000 And now this information coming out in this open, naked attempt to silence me has blown up in their face.

00:04:05.000 So the judge today could rule to put this into a Chapter 7 free speech systems upon a trustee and begin to shut it down in the next few days or weeks.

00:04:13.000 Or he can hand me back the company.

00:04:15.000 They're still going to be attacking at the state level trying to shut it down.

00:04:18.000 Regardless, InfoWars is not The operation.

00:04:22.000 Alex Jones and my crew and my listeners and my viewers and our guest is the operation.

00:04:28.000 And that's why this is only going to make me stronger and I will never surrender in this information war.

00:04:35.000 And as Colonel Travis said, victory or death.

00:04:39.000 We are winning.

00:04:40.000 The people are winning.

00:04:41.000 The corporate media is lying.

00:04:43.000 And I'm shooting this right now for the start of my show today, 11 a.m.

00:04:46.000 Central, coming up today in just a few minutes.

00:04:50.000 We're going to have the interview I did yesterday for an hour and 40 minutes with the great Tucker Carlson.

00:04:55.000 Then another hour-long interview with Russell Brand and more.

00:04:58.000 Then by then this hearing should be over and I should be back in the fourth hour and into the war room today.

00:05:03.000 But they could shut us down this afternoon.

00:05:05.000 I want to commend the crew.

00:05:07.000 I want to commend our listeners.

00:05:08.000 I want to commend our supporters.

00:05:10.000 I know there's some congressional hearings coming up on what's been done to me and others.

00:05:14.000 It came out the FBI and CIA.

00:05:16.000 Created these cases, went out and organized the plaintiffs, and ran the whole thing as a State Department deep state operation against the American people.

00:05:24.000 And this is all coming out in Congress.

00:05:27.000 This is a very, very exciting time to be alive.

00:05:30.000 So as we boil here in the Houston heat, the real heat is being put on the establishment that has the lowest approval rating ever.

00:05:39.000 Congress.

00:05:40.000 The phony President Biden.

00:05:43.000 All of them are the ones that are collapsing.

00:05:45.000 The American people are rising.

00:05:47.000 And so God bless you all.

00:05:49.000 I want to thank all the viewers and people out there.

00:05:51.000 They're trying to take real Alex Jones away on X. It's preposterous.

00:05:55.000 There's no bearing in law, but it shows it's about silencing me because they want to silence you.

00:05:59.000 As Trump has said a thousand times, they're not coming after him.

00:06:02.000 They've got to get through him to get to you.

00:06:04.000 And it's the same thing.

00:06:06.000 But it's well known on the internet.

00:06:08.000 It's a maxim.

00:06:09.000 The Alex Jones tip jar.

00:06:10.000 Alex Jones was right.

00:06:11.000 Alex Jones represents the people and that's what this is about.

00:06:14.000 So, in what is the twilight of InfoWars, like the Phoenix, we will come back ten times stronger just like when Fox Fire Tucker Carlson.

00:06:22.000 So I want to thank my viewers, listeners, and supporters and salute them all and just remind everybody this is the most critical election in world history and I've been honored to be involved in this fight with you and our greatest days of victory against tyranny and the deep state and the fake corporate media are coming.

00:06:37.000 This is just the beginning.

00:06:38.000 God bless and good luck.

00:06:40.000 [Music]

00:07:07.000 Tomorrow's news today.

00:07:12.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:07:15.000 It's Alex Jones coming to you live from the front lines of the InfoWars.

00:07:25.000 Well, I've interviewed a lot of amazing people.

00:07:27.000 I've interviewed President Trump, you name it, and I never get butterflies.

00:07:31.000 But for this interview, I do.

00:07:33.000 I absolutely love Tucker Carlson.

00:07:35.000 He's changed the world.

00:07:36.000 He is the top political commentator in the world, hands down, and in his incredibly busy schedule.

00:07:43.000 He has decided to give us about an hour and a half interview here today.

00:07:47.000 And this is in the twilight of InfoWars.

00:07:49.000 We could be imminently shut down.

00:07:51.000 So I can't see us going out better than with Tucker Carlson also coming up today.

00:07:56.000 It's how the planets align.

00:07:57.000 Russell Brand is going to be on with us as well.

00:08:00.000 So this is going to be an incredible broadcast here today.

00:08:03.000 It will all be posted, obviously, At Real Alex Jones on X, but Tucker Carlson does not need any introduction and I want to just talk to him first about the future of humanity, the future of America, World War III, the fact that the dinosaur media is officially dead and is trying to claw the rest of us with them, and how we turn not just American civilization but the entire world civilization around from this globalist death cult that is

00:08:32.000 In control of our lives today.

00:08:33.000 So Tucker, thank you so much for the time, my friend.

00:08:35.000 Of course, you've announced a big nationwide tour that I'm very proud to be a small part of.

00:08:40.000 Just so much going on.

00:08:41.000 Your network is exploding.

00:08:43.000 I know you don't ever talk about Fox getting rid of you, but man, it's got to feel vindication and good that I would say you reach about 10 times more people now than when you were on Fox.

00:08:54.000 So it's great to have you.

00:08:56.000 Well, thank you.

00:08:57.000 It actually felt good the first day.

00:08:59.000 I enjoy being fired, actually, because it forces you to stop doing what you're doing and take an assessment.

00:09:05.000 I'm honored to be here.

00:09:06.000 I'm here, obviously, because we're friends, but I'm really here On principle, because there's nothing you've ever said in your entire life or done in your entire life that's scarier or more threatening to our country than what they're doing to you right now.

00:09:21.000 So the government taking a broadcaster off the air who's committed no crime because he dares to criticize them is the scariest possible thing and it's the clearest possible sign of tyranny and I am heartbroken that this isn't getting more attention.

00:09:36.000 I think it's a pivot point.

00:09:37.000 In our country, and if they can do this to you, they will do it to the rest of us.

00:09:42.000 And what's so striking, though, is that if you had spent the last 20 years attacking, I don't know, the white working class, right, or the country, America, its founding documents, Thomas Jefferson, You know, you'd be lauded, but you did the one thing you're not allowed to do, which is you attack the people in charge. 0.63

00:10:03.000 And that's why they're trying to take you off the air.

00:10:06.000 And I think we should be really clear about that.

00:10:10.000 You've never Done anything but attack the people in charge.

00:10:15.000 That's your crime.

00:10:16.000 By the way, if you had started a war that killed a million people or tanked the US economy or, you know, sort of looted every American's bank account through the Federal Reserve, you would be getting a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

00:10:29.000 But you criticized the ruling oligarchy, and they're trying to crush you.

00:10:34.000 So I hope every person of principle, every decent person in this country,

00:10:40.000 whether they agree with what you say or not, whether they like you personally or not, it doesn't matter,

00:10:44.000 will say out loud, no, you can't do this in my country, the country that my ancestors built, that I was born in.

00:10:49.000 You can't take people off the air because they criticize you, because that's tyranny.

00:10:53.000 Well, I want to just thank you, because when I first got deplatformed five years ago,

00:10:57.000 almost no one who was prominent came to my aid and said, hey, they're gonna get everybody if we allow this to happen,

00:11:04.000 and they obviously misrepresented what I supposedly did.

00:11:05.000 It was all a big PR campaign.

00:11:07.000 They've now admitted to that.

00:11:08.000 They've admitted in Reuters last week that the goal was to take me off air.

00:11:11.000 They never wanted to settle with me.

00:11:12.000 It was basically a Democratic Party.

00:11:14.000 But shifting gears out of me, I mean, I totally agree with you.

00:11:18.000 This isn't about Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson or Donald Trump or Steve Bannon.

00:11:23.000 It's about, they have to get through us to get to the public, as Trump always says, and it really is a canary in the coal mine that they're so hysterical and so desperate and know that they've lost control of the narrative that they're just willing to do anything.

00:11:33.000 The lawfare, all the fake charges, all the criminality, and I want to speak to all of that, but you never really talk about yourself, and people find that fascinating.

00:11:40.000 People want to know about you.

00:11:41.000 So let's go back to what you first said.

00:11:42.000 You loved being fired.

00:11:44.000 I mean, when I said 10 times bigger than you were, you were huge, but you're definitely 10 times conservatively bigger, reaching 500, 700 million people with your shows.

00:11:54.000 Normal shows, 50 million.

00:11:55.000 I mean, that is massive.

00:11:57.000 Instinctively, when you got unceremoniously fired at Fox, they wouldn't even tell you why.

00:12:01.000 Very Kafkaesque.

00:12:04.000 Why was that so exciting to you?

00:12:05.000 And now what is it like to be fully the captain of your ship?

00:12:10.000 Well, I mean, of course it's painful.

00:12:12.000 You know, it's always painful to, you know, have anything unexpected happen in your life because you think, you know, you can see the future.

00:12:18.000 But it's really a blessing to be reminded that you can't.

00:12:22.000 And that things changed abruptly.

00:12:24.000 You don't have control, really, over most of your life.

00:12:27.000 And you certainly don't have control over history.

00:12:29.000 So, you're just sort of flotsam, bobbing along, trying to make the right decisions moment to moment.

00:12:34.000 The reason that I liked being fired, within like 20 minutes I was in a good mood, because I recognized the pattern.

00:12:41.000 It's always the bad things that turn out to be the greatest things in your life.

00:12:44.000 You know, it's getting really sick and surviving.

00:12:47.000 You know, it's something you didn't expect at all that hurts, that forces you to take an assessment of what you're doing and change.

00:12:57.000 And you won't change unless that happens.

00:13:00.000 I mean, there's really nothing worse for people, particularly for men, than just succeeding.

00:13:05.000 Because it ratifies all of your decisions.

00:13:06.000 It makes you, you know, after a while, you just like confuse yourself for Jesus.

00:13:09.000 You just think, well, I'm successful because I'm just so great.

00:13:11.000 You know, I earned this.

00:13:12.000 I'm like, I'm an amazing person, unlike everybody else.

00:13:16.000 And I think it's absolutely vital for your soul, but also for your clear judgment, to remember, no!

00:13:21.000 I'm this sort of ungainly, ridiculous primate who lucked into some things, made some good decisions, a lot of bad decisions.

00:13:26.000 Like, see yourself in context.

00:13:28.000 See yourself as you really are.

00:13:29.000 You know, you're absurd.

00:13:31.000 We're all absurd.

00:13:33.000 And so, getting fired just reminds you, like, oh, I'm so important!

00:13:37.000 You know, I get all these people texting me, like, I can't believe they fired you.

00:13:40.000 They needed you.

00:13:41.000 Well, it turned out they didn't, actually.

00:13:44.000 It's good to be, it's good to be reminded of that, that like, you think you're such a big deal?

00:13:49.000 Will anyone remember your name in 50 years?

00:13:51.000 In 10 years?

00:13:52.000 Will anyone visit your grave?

00:13:53.000 I know the answer.

00:13:54.000 No!

00:13:55.000 So, I'm not saying that to sort of pose as a self-deprecating person, I'm saying that because it's factually true, and it's good to operate on the basis of what's true rather than on what you wish were true.

00:14:06.000 Well, I mean, as I've grown up, I'm 50 now, I was never ego-driven completely, but I was more ego-driven as I was younger.

00:14:13.000 It's such a strength and way more satisfying to have the ego basically drop away to almost nothing and to really have it be a sense of community.

00:14:22.000 And that's your power that comes around so genuine, and it's even stronger in person, folks, is that you really are a genuine person who's humble.

00:14:30.000 And so we're not lauding ourselves.

00:14:32.000 It's just a great attribute.

00:14:33.000 If you look at the globalists in DC, which I know you know well, they are the complete opposite.

00:14:38.000 They are on delusional, crazy power trips.

00:14:40.000 And to me, there's nothing more dangerous than that with people that are megalomaniacs and think they're invincible, who also have nuclear weapons.

00:14:49.000 Exactly.

00:14:50.000 There's nothing... Really, that's the way that people destroy themselves.

00:14:54.000 I mean, humans are distinct from the animal kingdom in one meaningful way.

00:14:59.000 Animals don't.

00:14:59.000 They kill themselves.

00:15:01.000 You know, no dog has ever decided to kill himself.

00:15:04.000 It just never occurs to a dog, or to a porcupine, or to any other animal.

00:15:08.000 Only to people.

00:15:09.000 And they always kill themselves in the same way, by imagining they have powers.

00:15:12.000 They don't mistaken themselves for God.

00:15:14.000 And, I mean, this is just the most consistent theme in all history.

00:15:16.000 And again, men are prey to it in a way that women generally aren't. 0.99

00:15:20.000 Obviously, Tori and Newlin would be a huge exception.

00:15:22.000 I mean, there are exceptions.

00:15:22.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:15:23.000 But the male temperament is particularly susceptible to the delusion that, you know, I'm Jesus.

00:15:29.000 And those people are the most dangerous, and you're right, when they have the power to destroy the world, which they do, you know, they're terrifying.

00:15:38.000 And we are, by the way, just since you brought it up, we are on the cusp of nuclear war with Russia right now.

00:15:42.000 We are actually on the cusp.

00:15:44.000 We are closer to nuclear war right now than any time in history.

00:15:47.000 Far closer than the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:15:50.000 And the reason is really simple.

00:15:51.000 We're targeting Mainland Russia. 0.98

00:15:54.000 We are attacking Russia, the nation. 1.00

00:15:57.000 We are at in a hot war with Russia.

00:15:59.000 So from Putin's perspective, which is basically unknown in the United States, and they're completely committed to preventing you from knowing what Putin thinks or says.

00:16:09.000 But if you pay any attention, all you know that Putin He is dictatorial, of course.

00:16:14.000 He is not an absolute monarch.

00:16:16.000 He is not Kim Jong-un.

00:16:18.000 Putin cares a lot about his approval rating in Russia.

00:16:21.000 A lot.

00:16:22.000 That's why he controls the media in Russia.

00:16:24.000 And Putin has, for two and a half years, done everything he can to minimize news within Russia of attacks within Russia.

00:16:31.000 There have been a bunch of assassinations, for example, in Moscow, carried out by the Ukrainian intel services.

00:16:37.000 That's a fact, okay?

00:16:39.000 Dugan's daughter was murdered with a car bomb in Moscow.

00:16:42.000 There have been others.

00:16:43.000 And Russian media has ignored those attacks.

00:16:46.000 Putin does not want to seem weak in front of his country, in front of the Russian people, period.

00:16:52.000 And so my point is, Russian media, if you watch it, has been downplaying NATO attacks on Russia.

00:16:59.000 If there is a NATO attack within Russia that he cannot keep from his people, it becomes obvious that he can't protect mainland Russia from NATO.

00:17:07.000 He'll launch a tactical nuke into Ukraine. 0.85

00:17:10.000 A nuclear weapon into Ukraine for the first time in 79 years. 0.71

00:17:13.000 We are very, very, very close to that.

00:17:15.000 And if that happens, of course, it'll set off a chain reaction and we'll have a nuclear war in which you and I and our children will die.

00:17:22.000 And so we're right there, right now.

00:17:25.000 And that's not reported anywhere in the US media.

00:17:28.000 Our leaders either know it and don't care because they're on a suicide trip.

00:17:32.000 I agree with you, I think.

00:17:33.000 But the average person is not bent on suicide, doesn't want to die, doesn't want his kids to be incinerated, doesn't want to live in a post-nuclear wasteland.

00:17:40.000 And the average person has no idea that that's happening right now.

00:17:44.000 And I just think it's the most astounding thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

00:17:49.000 And if you add to that, Biden not knowing what planet he's on.

00:17:52.000 And for people that don't know, you've studied this.

00:17:54.000 Your guests have studied this.

00:17:56.000 Mainline analysts agree we're the closest nuclear war we've ever been.

00:18:01.000 We have an establishment that has this normalcy bias that they're invincible or that Russia will back down.

00:18:06.000 You're absolutely right.

00:18:07.000 Putin, for those that don't understand the situation, is a moderate and is restraining the hardliners.

00:18:13.000 And the vast majority of Russians, over 80%, want full-out war. 0.59

00:18:16.000 And people that don't know, Hitler went to be defeated in Russia, Napoleon, the Russians were the frontier with the East and stopped all these Mongol and then Islamic invasions.

00:18:25.000 And so the Russians are very serious when it comes to being attacked and they will attack. 0.98

00:18:30.000 And so this is not like some Iraq where we've cut off the resources and are murdering them with starvation and they can't fight back.

00:18:38.000 This is the largest nuclear power and this is beyond playing with fire or poking a bear.

00:18:43.000 I was texting you a few weeks ago and I said, yeah, it's World War III and you said...

00:18:48.000 It's the final war, and I think that term, I hadn't heard that before, it's right. 1.00

00:18:52.000 We had World War I that was the war to end all wars, we learned it wasn't, but this would be the final war, as your very famous quantum mechanics expert once said, I don't know how World War III will be fought, but I know that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

00:19:10.000 That's right.

00:19:11.000 I think that's absolutely right.

00:19:13.000 And the funny thing is that you and I grew up in a country where that was a commonplace observation.

00:19:17.000 Like all through school.

00:19:18.000 You know, our entire lives up until about 25 years ago when You know, the United States became the unipolar power.

00:19:25.000 We were told, and it was true, that nuclear war was the end of humanity, and it was the thing to fear most.

00:19:32.000 And all of a sudden, it became this thing that the entire foreign policy establishment in Washington, CSIS and everyone in the National Security Council, and just sort of the permanent Foreign policy thinkers in D.C.

00:19:46.000 wave away as, you know, not possible, whatever, you're being hysterical, even as they tell us that Vladimir Putin is dying of Parkinson's disease, is deranged, is a crazed megalomaniac on a death trip.

00:20:00.000 You know, we can't he cannot be trusted.

00:20:02.000 You cannot have a negotiation with him because he's that crazy.

00:20:05.000 They're saying that this guy, who's by their own description that crazy, will not launch any of his 6,000 nuclear warheads against the West.

00:20:13.000 I mean, it's the villain in this story, whatever you think of Putin, and I'm hardly defending Putin, but the villain here is NATO and the National Security Council in Washington, because they are pushing Our country and the West to annihilation and that that's a fact that's not I'm not being you know hysterical or trying to you know up play it or sell it you know as a threat that we shall be worried about this isn't an imminent danger to human existence and we're at the most fraught moment in all of human history right now.

00:20:50.000 It's shocking to me that the Today Show and Good Morning America and the New York Times and the Washington Post don't begin every story no matter what the topic with, you know, by the way we're on the cusp of nuclear war.

00:21:06.000 Because there's nothing more important than that.

00:21:09.000 But they don't.

00:21:10.000 And by the way, you say one more thing.

00:21:10.000 They hide it.

00:21:12.000 You're very gracious when I've been on your show and just let me go on for 20 minutes of time.

00:21:15.000 We want the deep Tucker Carlson.

00:21:17.000 People love the Joe Rogan.

00:21:19.000 One of the most viewed interviews ever.

00:21:21.000 I've seen 100 million views, folks.

00:21:22.000 I've watched it twice.

00:21:23.000 My wife watched it twice.

00:21:24.000 My full family.

00:21:25.000 Everybody I know has been talking about it.

00:21:27.000 And Joe's great.

00:21:28.000 He's better than I am at interrupting.

00:21:29.000 But I want to be even better than Joe.

00:21:30.000 I want to give you time to keep elaborating on this because you've really done a lot of research into this.

00:21:34.000 And I want to get back into the suicide death cult.

00:21:37.000 Nature of the Global Ascent, and why they're so nihilistic, why they're doing this, and how they see a nuclear war as some survivable thing for them, that'll get rid of the population, and they'll re-emerge in the Wall Street Journal, even with headlines, looking forward to the end of humanity, and just hundreds of headlines about humans are a parasite, let's get rid of them, and then the horrible sick things they do, like this is really, at the end of the day, a spiritual battle, and you've talked some about that in your guest tab, and I want you to really go deep on this today.

00:22:07.000 Well, I mean, I think the framework that most of us internalized growing up in this country was evolutionary biology.

00:22:12.000 The idea that human behavior is the product of millions of years of adaptation to the environment, and we like things, we don't like things because our ancestors had a need to like or dislike those things.

00:22:22.000 And it makes sense, and I think to some extent it's true.

00:22:25.000 But the bottom line imperative in evolutionary biology is survival.

00:22:31.000 You know, the whole point of existence is to pass on your genes to another generation and, you know, continue the line of humanity.

00:22:38.000 So, and I think that's right, actually.

00:22:39.000 I think that is our instinct.

00:22:41.000 So whenever you see people who are pushing for the end of humanity, pushing for suicide, you know that the controlling power is, by definition, not human.

00:22:54.000 That's my, I'm trying to approach this logically here, like, what are we watching?

00:22:58.000 And I don't think that we're watching the product of human greed here, for example.

00:23:04.000 And a lot of people, and I've been one of them many, many times, say, well, you know, the real story here, you know, the real reason this is happening is because Larry Fink is going to buy all the farmland in Ukraine and he's going to make a ton of money for BlackRock.

00:23:15.000 Or the reason You know, we have so many transvestite children is because the, you know, hormone makers are making a bundle on this, or the reason they're pushing the COVID vax is because Moderna and Pfizer are getting rich. 0.93

00:23:27.000 I mean, on one level, that is all true, of course, but it's not what's driving it.

00:23:34.000 No one is going to survive a nuclear exchange.

00:23:36.000 The people who are pushing us, no one on the National Security Council is going to have a better life.

00:23:41.000 If there's a nuclear war, everything that they know and love will be gone, including their own children.

00:23:46.000 So this is not actually something they're doing for their own benefit, whether they know it or not.

00:23:50.000 They're being driven to do it by spiritual forces.

00:23:54.000 I mean, I don't, I mean, if there's another explanation, by the way, I'm completely comfortable having grown up a secular person in a secular country with a secular explanation for what we're watching.

00:24:02.000 If you could think of one, tell me what it is, but I can't.

00:24:05.000 I don't see any rational reason.

00:24:07.000 I don't see any actual self-interest that could be motivating the desire to commit mass suicide.

00:24:13.000 I just don't.

00:24:14.000 And I would, by the way, say that the transgender, the trainee stuff, is a form of mass suicide. 1.00

00:24:20.000 You're preventing your children from having children, therefore you go extinct. 0.99

00:24:24.000 I mean, right?

00:24:25.000 At scale, that's what we're watching.

00:24:26.000 Having our sons cut their genitals off and little girls cut their breasts off. 1.00

00:24:30.000 It's like something out of a Clive Barker novel.

00:24:32.000 It's like Hellraiser.

00:24:34.000 So let's bring in all the politics.

00:24:35.000 Can I just say, it's not just hurting your children, it's hurting you.

00:24:39.000 Because the deepest desire of every parent is to have grandchildren.

00:24:42.000 Not just for sentimental reasons, but for biological reasons.

00:24:45.000 To see your line continue.

00:24:47.000 That is the most natural of all instincts.

00:24:49.000 So when you see somebody Act against that, then you know this is probably not a human impulse.

00:24:58.000 This is unnatural.

00:24:58.000 Right?

00:24:59.000 This is, in fact, I would say, super natural.

00:25:03.000 And that's exactly, in my view, what it is.

00:25:05.000 Unless you can think of some better secular explanation that we can measure in the lab.

00:25:12.000 But I can't.

00:25:13.000 And I've thought about it a lot.

00:25:14.000 Viene una tormenta! 0.95

00:25:16.000 What did he just say?

00:25:21.000 He said there's a storm coming in.

00:25:23.000 [MUSIC]

00:25:28.000 I know.

00:25:30.000 We told you what was going to happen and it did.

00:25:34.000 Now we're telling you what's coming.

00:25:37.000 at realalexjones on X.

00:25:54.000 I've heard you talk about this some, but can you elaborate on, growing up Episcopalian, you were never Satanist, you kind of believed in God from what I've heard, but weren't sure

00:26:03.000 about it and liked the idea of Christianity, but then, you've told me some of your private stories, it's a whole issue of mine, we're not going to get into those here, but the

00:26:09.000 process of you in the last four or five years...

00:26:12.000 You know really communicating what everybody else is feeling and seeing.

00:26:15.000 Either you're totally in the matrix and don't see any of it and do whatever you're told and you will lick the bugs and you know love all this evil and that's a smaller and smaller group or there's the majority of us really they don't have all the answers but are trying to figure this out.

00:26:28.000 What was that process like for you coming to this realization that it's good versus evil and that there are forces other than human?

00:26:36.000 Well, I mean, it's a process still.

00:26:39.000 And by the way, one of the reasons I'm uncomfortable talking about it is because I hate to sort of hold myself up as an advertisement for the world's largest faith or pretend to be a spokesman for God.

00:26:50.000 I think you bring disaster upon yourself when you do that, I've noticed.

00:26:53.000 I mean, there's a reason that preachers are disproportionately likely to get caught up in sex scandals or get addicted to porn or smoke meth or You know, they're under attack.

00:27:02.000 The second you say, I represent a billion Christians, you are under attack.

00:27:07.000 And so I certainly don't represent a billion Christians or Christianity or Jesus or anything like that.

00:27:11.000 I'm as flawed as anybody you'll ever meet, more than most.

00:27:14.000 And so I just want to say that with sincerity at the outset.

00:27:16.000 But to answer your question, you know, I always believed that the sum total of Everything was probably a little bit bigger than what we could measure.

00:27:26.000 You know, that our senses don't tell the whole story.

00:27:28.000 And I've always believed in the possibility of a god of supernatural forces because it seemed obvious to me.

00:27:35.000 And it's obvious from your own experience in life.

00:27:37.000 You somehow know things intuitively.

00:27:39.000 Well, how could you know that?

00:27:40.000 You know, it's encoded in our genes.

00:27:42.000 Really tell me how that works exactly.

00:27:43.000 You can't.

00:27:44.000 Nobody can.

00:27:45.000 So clearly there's a lot more going on than science, as understood in 2024, can explain to us, obviously.

00:27:53.000 And I've always assumed that that was real because it clearly is real.

00:27:56.000 But I didn't have much of a coherent theology other than, you know, I'm a Christian.

00:28:00.000 I went to sort of a church that didn't mean it.

00:28:04.000 I didn't quite realize how much they didn't mean it.

00:28:06.000 But I'd grown up in this church and gone to its schools.

00:28:08.000 And I was really steeped in the culture of the church.

00:28:12.000 And my family was involved in the church going back, you know, a couple hundred years.

00:28:15.000 So it was like it was very much part of our family.

00:28:18.000 And, um, but I didn't think about it very much.

00:28:20.000 And really it was watching what's happening to the world that changed my view.

00:28:24.000 I became convinced that some of these, I had watched political debates my entire life.

00:28:29.000 That's what I do for 30, more than 30 years.

00:28:33.000 And while I disagreed with one side, I could understand their argument.

00:28:37.000 You know, they would say, well, we need to have, I mean, I've always been totally opposed to abortion or killing the defenseless.

00:28:43.000 Really killing anybody, honestly, except in self-defense.

00:28:46.000 But, um, but I could understand, you know, well, there's a 15-year-old girl who, you know, was pregnant.

00:28:51.000 She got raped. 0.90

00:28:52.000 And if you don't let her have an abortion, she'll never have a real life. 1.00

00:28:56.000 And, you know, I disagreed with that because I think you can't kill people regardless of the justification.

00:29:01.000 However, I thought that was a real argument.

00:29:03.000 I mean, at least it appealed to the possibility her life would be improved.

00:29:07.000 You wake up and all of a sudden people are saying, well, abortion is itself the point.

00:29:12.000 Like having an abortion is just good for the sake of doing it. 0.95

00:29:16.000 That's right.

00:29:18.000 They say we love it.

00:29:18.000 It's a religion.

00:29:19.000 They're getting off on it.

00:29:21.000 Well, it's human sacrifice.

00:29:23.000 And so, obviously.

00:29:25.000 So I was trying, because I'm a little bit autistic and very literal, I'm thinking, well, okay, what does that even mean?

00:29:31.000 Like, what?

00:29:32.000 You were trying to find logic.

00:29:33.000 This is very different.

00:29:34.000 I was!

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00:31:07.000 If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance.

00:31:12.000 Live from the InfoWars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.

00:31:18.000 [music]

00:31:35.000 So I really am interested in how people construct arguments and in their nature.

00:31:39.000 And all of a sudden, people stop making arguments on behalf of abortion and begin holding it up as just like something that was just good for its own sake.

00:31:47.000 And stop.

00:31:48.000 They didn't even attempt to convince you that you weren't taking a human life.

00:31:51.000 The presumption is that you are, of course.

00:31:53.000 And with technology, we know that you are.

00:31:54.000 There's no counter argument to that.

00:31:56.000 And so they're basically saying killing people is a good thing.

00:32:00.000 And I thought, well, that's just a kind of remarkable thing to say.

00:32:03.000 And then I found out, because I was interested, that that is what every society has said in recorded history.

00:32:09.000 Every society, from the ones that, you know, are very famous, the ancient Canaanites, the Mayans, the Aztecs, all the Mesoamerican civilizations, but also the Western European civilizations, my own, where my ancestors lived, you know, in the Nordic countries.

00:32:21.000 They were also committing human sacrifice.

00:32:24.000 There's something about killing other people Ritually, as an offering to the spirit world that is a constant through human history.

00:32:35.000 Every civilization has done that.

00:32:37.000 And so that raises the question, why?

00:32:38.000 How would, like, that's such a counterintuitive conclusion to come to.

00:32:42.000 I kill people like so evolutionary biology tells us that the whole point of existence is to continue existence is to pass on your genes to another generation and then many more right that that's the assumption that I had my whole life and yet every civilization from the beginning of time has reached the opposite conclusion we will be happier by killing the fruit of our womb children And we will be rewarded by the gods for doing this.

00:33:08.000 Every single civilization has reached that conclusion without any exception that I'm aware of.

00:33:12.000 And you have to ask, why is that?

00:33:13.000 They didn't have the internet 5,000 years ago.

00:33:15.000 How are they all reaching the same conclusion?

00:33:18.000 And really the only logical answer is because some outside force was telling them that.

00:33:22.000 That the spirit world is real.

00:33:22.000 Right?

00:33:24.000 And that there are demons telling people that you will be happier, that you will be safer, that you will be richer, You'll be more powerful if you take the life of a child.

00:33:37.000 Or of a maiden, or of some helpless human being. 1.00

00:33:41.000 Mostly young human beings.

00:33:42.000 It's never the elderly who are the... And they like it because it's stealing the future, and a child is the closest thing to God, because of the potential of the universe, so it is a wound against God. 1.00

00:33:50.000 It is stabbing God.

00:33:52.000 Exactly!

00:33:53.000 Exactly!

00:33:53.000 But, so from, but, look, civilizations convince themselves of all kinds of crazy things, right?

00:34:01.000 But when every civilization convinces itself of the same crazy thing, That is not an obvious conclusion.

00:34:08.000 Like, if I'm, you know, a Hivero Indian living in the Amazon headwaters, and just getting enough calories every year is really a struggle, right?

00:34:16.000 And I need labor, because there aren't many Hivero Indians, but I've somehow reached a conclusion that killing my own child would, you know, make my life better. 1.00

00:34:26.000 Like, how am I reaching that conclusion?

00:34:27.000 Like, I'm not reaching that rationally.

00:34:29.000 Something or somebody is telling me that.

00:34:31.000 And you made a key point.

00:34:33.000 You made a key point.

00:34:35.000 That these are civilizations that we're not communicating.

00:34:38.000 They're doing the exact same thing.

00:34:39.000 Exactly.

00:34:39.000 Many times the exact same image of the same gods.

00:34:42.000 And so you've told me some private stories.

00:34:44.000 So often.

00:34:45.000 I've told you some private ones.

00:34:46.000 And through my life I have a sixth sense to spirit.

00:34:49.000 It's not instinct.

00:34:50.000 It's something else.

00:34:51.000 And I've had this happen all the time.

00:34:52.000 I usually ignore it.

00:34:53.000 I've learned to not ignore it.

00:34:56.000 And I mean, here's just an example, and this is literally from the ether from God.

00:35:00.000 I can play the clip.

00:35:02.000 About a month before he got fired, I said, Tucker will be fired within one month.

00:35:05.000 And I believe Tucker.

00:35:06.000 He's hardcore.

00:35:07.000 He's awake.

00:35:09.000 The left admits it.

00:35:10.000 I predict he won't be at Fox News in the near future if he's unable to put this out.

00:35:15.000 I'm going to leave it at that.

00:35:17.000 By the way, Fox News, these Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson doesn't need Fox News. 1.00

00:35:24.000 And we'll be back on Monday.

00:35:26.000 Tucker Carlson signed off Friday on what we now know was his last show on Fox News.

00:35:31.000 The network announcing it is severing ties with its most popular host without explanation in a statement Monday.

00:35:37.000 And I've just learned when this stuff happens, I just say it and it's always right.

00:35:41.000 And then now that I've accepted it, it's getting more intense and it's getting stronger.

00:35:45.000 And what I know what's going on is these dark forces don't want humans to go to the next level of real evolution.

00:35:52.000 God's real evolution for us.

00:35:54.000 And you hit that on the head.

00:35:55.000 Yes.

00:35:55.000 People see these fake churches.

00:35:56.000 Well, Christ says in the New Testament, he spends the whole time criticizing the Pharisees and Sadducees and saying they pray in public, they act like they're God, they get in front of you in God.

00:36:04.000 He's like, pray in private to God.

00:36:06.000 Open up your heart.

00:36:07.000 The kingdom of heaven is with you.

00:36:08.000 You're not God, but you are able to reach out directly, not through some priest, not through some preacher, but directly to God. It's great to go to church, there are other people that are looking for God,

00:36:17.000 there's a psychic connection, it boosts it, but Satan is smart. He, one of the worst places is the churches because that's where he lays the traps.

00:36:24.000 I think that's all true. And I just go back to what I said when we first sat down, which is, why have you been singled out for abuse and persecution? Why?

00:36:38.000 And I'm in the business of trying to figure out, usually unsuccessfully, but why things happen.

00:36:44.000 It's not enough to say that they do.

00:36:46.000 For me, anyway, my curiosity drives me to ask, why does this happen?

00:36:49.000 What is this?

00:36:49.000 What does this mean?

00:36:51.000 And the fact that you, specifically you, Alex Jones, for the last 20 years, have been attacked in the way that you have been, even when you're on cable access television, like a threat to nobody.

00:37:04.000 Why did they single you out?

00:37:06.000 And of course, it's not because you're lying.

00:37:08.000 In fact, had you lied and decided to make a career of lying, you would be a lot richer than you are and no one would bother you.

00:37:15.000 You'd have a show on NBC.

00:37:15.000 You'd be celebrated.

00:37:17.000 It's the fact that through you flows some things that are undeniably true.

00:37:22.000 I mean, I can't vouch for all of it.

00:37:24.000 I don't have your full, like, lifetime corpus in front of me, but I know that you predicted, in detail, 9-11 the summer before it happened.

00:37:31.000 Like, that's just a fact.

00:37:33.000 And I've thrown that out there many times, like, okay, you may hit Alex Jones.

00:37:37.000 But what is that?

00:37:39.000 Honestly, how did that happen?

00:37:42.000 That's impossible.

00:37:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:37:45.000 So why don't you tell me, Alex Jones hater, what are we looking at here?

00:37:50.000 How could he have known that?

00:37:52.000 And the answer, of course, is that you couldn't have known that.

00:37:55.000 That that's supernatural.

00:37:56.000 Now I'm not saying everything you say is like prophecy from God, but I'm saying that's supernatural because I can't think of a natural explanation.

00:38:02.000 Maybe there is one.

00:38:03.000 If there is, tell me what it is!

00:38:04.000 But that's why they hate you.

00:38:06.000 So, um, that's revealing in itself.

00:38:08.000 If you want to know, there it is right there.

00:38:11.000 If July 25th, 2001, I lived in this country, I was in the news business on July 25th, 2001, I was an employee of the Cable News Network in Washington.

00:38:20.000 I hosted a show for CNN.

00:38:21.000 Trust me, we had every national security poobah on there, every retired CIA operative, some current CIA operatives, talking about this stuff all the time.

00:38:29.000 Not one person came within a mile of what you said on some cable access show in Texas.

00:38:35.000 Like, what?

00:38:37.000 So, that's the problem that they have, is that you blurt out these things that are true.

00:38:43.000 And I just think, if you want to understand what's actually going on, take a look at what makes the people in charge the angriest.

00:38:50.000 What are the things you can't say?

00:38:52.000 And that's a pretty reliable guide to what's actually happening.

00:38:57.000 Shifting gears away from me, what is it about Tucker Carlson that makes you so mad?

00:39:00.000 Because you make a lot of predictions and accurate things, but you're even more strong, and this is not an ass-kissing contest.

00:39:06.000 We're talking about why the enemy hates us, because that's important to understand.

00:39:09.000 What are we doing that can beat them?

00:39:10.000 If they're trying to stop us, we've got something that can defeat them, so everybody needs to understand this.

00:39:14.000 We need to understand this.

00:39:15.000 What is it about you?

00:39:16.000 I think it's that you are definitely genuine, very smart, articulate, and are able to Reach out across political lines and unify people and all you're trying to do is save civilization and our future.

00:39:27.000 They call you a hater, they call you an extremist.

00:39:29.000 CNN and the usual suspects, Brian Stelter's mini-me, Oliver Darcy is running around trying to get Ticketmaster to pull and shut down your tour.

00:39:39.000 I mean, why are they so scared of you?

00:39:43.000 I don't know if they are.

00:39:46.000 It's funny.

00:39:47.000 So many levels.

00:39:47.000 But I would say, first, I don't have any kind of prophetic ability.

00:39:51.000 I wish I did.

00:39:52.000 Most of my predictions are wrong.

00:39:53.000 Occasionally, I will get a really strong feeling about something, and those turn out to be right.

00:39:58.000 But not that often.

00:39:59.000 From the first day, I thought there was something wrong with the COVID vaccine.

00:40:02.000 I didn't know what it was.

00:40:03.000 I still don't really know.

00:40:04.000 But I felt that very, very strongly, and I went with my instinct on that.

00:40:08.000 Second example of that is the day the war in Ukraine started, I had an overwhelming feeling that this is a really, really big deal.

00:40:16.000 It's not some regional war in Eastern Europe.

00:40:18.000 This is the thing that resets civilization and potentially ends it.

00:40:21.000 I really felt that strongly.

00:40:23.000 And I think that turned out to be true.

00:40:24.000 But most of the time, I don't have that ability.

00:40:27.000 Again, I wish I did.

00:40:29.000 I've never called an election correctly.

00:40:30.000 I always get them wrong.

00:40:32.000 I think the reason they don't like me is because I'm from that world.

00:40:36.000 I really do think that's offensive to them.

00:40:38.000 I mean, I'm not some mega insider or something, but I am actually from that world.

00:40:43.000 for 35 years.

00:40:43.000 I lived in D.C.

00:40:44.000 I worked at CNN.

00:40:45.000 I worked at MSNBC.

00:40:46.000 I worked at PBS.

00:40:46.000 I worked at ABC.

00:40:48.000 I know everybody involved in that world.

00:40:51.000 I know a lot of, you know, government officials.

00:40:53.000 I just, I was always a big booster of Washington.

00:40:55.000 I didn't really criticize the system.

00:40:58.000 I sort of believed in the system.

00:40:59.000 I thought some things that you said were really dangerous and scary.

00:41:04.000 I've apologized for that.

00:41:05.000 Turns out you were right.

00:41:06.000 I was wrong.

00:41:07.000 But I really was kind of, like, I had my views and I was conservative, but basically I was a defender of the system because I thought it was worth defending.

00:41:15.000 And it was only eight or nine years ago that I realized, wait, this is really dishonest and wrong.

00:41:21.000 And a lot of the things that they're telling me are the mirror image of the truth.

00:41:25.000 They're not just incorrect.

00:41:27.000 They're an inversion.

00:41:28.000 They're the opposite of the truth.

00:41:30.000 Well, that's my next question and I'll elaborate, but before I forget it.

00:41:33.000 So you talked about your spiritual awakening.

00:41:36.000 What was your political awakening?

00:41:37.000 Because I remember like 12 years ago, you were going to come on the show.

00:41:40.000 You'd attack me and stuff, which I understood. 1.00

00:41:42.000 It was genuine.

00:41:43.000 You had real reasons for it, and I could get the things I was saying were so horrible that only a horrible person would say it when somebody is still projecting their own goodness onto things.

00:41:53.000 What was your, then, the last 12 years, your acceleration until now?

00:41:56.000 I would say, I watch your show every day when you do them.

00:41:59.000 I think you say things, most of the time, deeper than what anybody else is saying.

00:42:03.000 I mean, it's true.

00:42:05.000 So what was the process of your awakening?

00:42:08.000 Well, it's kind of hard to know because you don't see yourself clearly and I am totally lacking self-awareness.

00:42:13.000 I mean, I can gain 50 pounds and not know it until my pants don't fit.

00:42:17.000 Like, I'm not aware of myself very much.

00:42:19.000 No, that's happened.

00:42:21.000 But anyway, it's hard really to know, but I, you know, living in Washington in the same neighborhood for years, and I mean, I got there in high school, so I mean, I really did, I felt like I was part of the city and of its culture and life, and I did not feel like an outsider there.

00:42:38.000 I felt like a part of it.

00:42:40.000 And watching people I knew personally who I, you know, stood next to at soccer games, like at that level, lie And sort of rather than defend what they were doing, attack the person who questioned it.

00:42:56.000 I found that so low.

00:42:57.000 That was so shocking to me, to watch smart people become that defensive about what they were doing, that it opened up a chain reaction in my head.

00:43:05.000 I was like, well, wait a second.

00:43:06.000 If they can't defend something as simple as NATO, they couldn't defend, like, why do we have NATO?

00:43:11.000 What's the answer?

00:43:12.000 If you ask that question, they'll immediately call you a racist or a transphobe or whatever.

00:43:16.000 They'll try to, you know, attack your character rather than answer the question.

00:43:20.000 And just as a man, I felt that that was so disgusting.

00:43:23.000 I mean, that's what children do.

00:43:25.000 That's what drunk people do. 0.99

00:43:26.000 That's what crazy people do.

00:43:27.000 It's not what my Harvard-educated neighbors are supposed to be doing.

00:43:30.000 We're running federal agencies.

00:43:31.000 So when I saw that at the beginning of the Trump, it was really about Trump.

00:43:35.000 I mean, it wasn't actually about Trump the man.

00:43:38.000 You know, but it was about that moment in 2015-16 and I just thought, well, I have an obligation to see what I think is true and to keep pulling the thread.

00:43:50.000 And that happened to be exactly the moment that I got a new job at Fox and had a bigger platform.

00:43:55.000 And I just thought, you know, I don't know how long I'm going to have this, but I'm going to tell the truth.

00:43:59.000 You know, with the knowledge I'm going to get it wrong often, which I of course do, but I'm not going to lie.

00:44:04.000 Period.

00:44:04.000 I'm not going to lie.

00:44:06.000 And let's just see where this goes.

00:44:07.000 And the more, you know, the more I did try and tell the truth, just without any caveats at all, the bigger reaction I got, a negative reaction, like people really, really hated that.

00:44:20.000 And then I just dug in and I thought to myself, I don't care what you do to me, actually.

00:44:24.000 You know, my kids are grown.

00:44:26.000 I just don't care at all.

00:44:28.000 And I'm just going to say what I think is true.

00:44:30.000 And then the next thing you know, I'm just like, I can't live there anymore.

00:44:33.000 Everyone hates me and I feel sad about that.

00:44:35.000 But I think if you're not, because I actually had a million good friends in D.C.

00:44:38.000 who were good people.

00:44:39.000 I still think they're good people, but they've gone crazy.

00:44:41.000 But it wasn't like you were leaving one place for a worse place.

00:44:44.000 I've been to your place in Maine.

00:44:46.000 It's like Valhalla.

00:44:51.000 It's not a rich Valhalla, but it's more a working-class Valhalla. 0.99

00:44:56.000 No, it's where I went in the summer anyway, so I thought, well, I... Well, see, I don't think of Valhalla as palaces or Versailles.

00:45:02.000 I think of Valhalla as big, beautiful mountains coming out of crystal-clear lakes and rivers and trees and normal people.

00:45:09.000 Well, we have a lot of that.

00:45:11.000 Well, and I do think this is, like, not even relevant, but it's just true.

00:45:15.000 I really like to hunt and fish and camp and be in the woods, and I've felt that way my entire life.

00:45:20.000 Those are just important to me, for some reason, and always have been since I was a small child, and I think that made a huge difference.

00:45:27.000 I think that if you appreciate nature, you don't have to be John Muir or, you know, live in a yurt, but I think Being around animals and trees and water and granite and pine needles and, you know, just flowers.

00:45:41.000 That's God's cathedral!

00:45:47.000 Well, I feel that way.

00:45:48.000 I feel that way so strongly.

00:45:49.000 I feel that way overwhelmingly, actually.

00:45:52.000 In fact, I have to restrain myself, because I don't want to be barged about it.

00:45:55.000 But I feel, and dogs also, I feel in a way that's hard to explain, but that those things are really important.

00:46:02.000 I think God speaks to us through them, I think.

00:46:04.000 But even message aside, they're such enduring sources of joy.

00:46:10.000 I mean, that's so much more powerful and Fulfilling for me to be in the woods with my dogs than it is to be sitting in front of a laptop, which I don't own, by the way.

00:46:22.000 But even if I did own a laptop and had to sit in front of it, I would still yearn to be outside.

00:46:28.000 And I feel like that does center you.

00:46:30.000 And you don't need to.

00:46:31.000 We live in the middle of like a million acre forest, but you don't have to.

00:46:35.000 You know, you can go to the park.

00:46:37.000 Anything that connects you with God's creation for just a moment every day is every bit as important as going to the gym and getting your cardio or whatever they call it.

00:46:45.000 It's way more important than that.

00:46:47.000 It's spiritually essential.

00:46:49.000 And you don't talk about yourself privately, but I said, man, you ought to do a nature show, because I know Ted Nugent well.

00:46:54.000 He's a great shot.

00:46:55.000 He's amazing.

00:46:56.000 But you're a real outdoorsman.

00:46:58.000 I mean, you're sharpening the chainsaw.

00:47:00.000 You're building the houses.

00:47:01.000 You're driving the boats around in the rivers and lakes.

00:47:04.000 You're skinning the bucks and running the trot lines of the bears.

00:47:07.000 I mean, I've been with you.

00:47:08.000 You're like really running around from hunting camp to hunting camp.

00:47:10.000 The show is a side deal.

00:47:12.000 And I can see, like, this is a real outdoorsman, like my grandfather or something.

00:47:16.000 I hope you do some outdoor shows, because if people saw that side of you, they'd be blown away.

00:47:22.000 Well, I've always thought that cameras were corrupting.

00:47:25.000 I mean, we didn't have... That's what I picked up.

00:47:28.000 This is your real life, so that's like private.

00:47:33.000 Well, so I sort of feel, oh gosh, yeah, I sort of feel that way.

00:47:36.000 I do think cameras are, I mean, the most intimate moments of your life should not be filmed.

00:47:41.000 You know, the birth of your child, the conception of your child, you know, the best dinner party you ever had, you know, a drive with your son in the car where you talk about life.

00:47:51.000 Like, these are not things that are, you know, being filmed for others.

00:47:55.000 These are real moments that are lived out in real time and experienced You know, as they happen, not in retrospect.

00:48:02.000 Well, that's what I said.

00:48:03.000 I said, man, you're shooting these clays better than me and my military security detail. 1.00

00:48:06.000 And we're good.

00:48:07.000 And you're shooting bullseye.

00:48:08.000 You're like you're like Annie Oakley.

00:48:10.000 But a guy is my range.

00:48:12.000 But I was like, you got to show people that you know, don't videotape me.

00:48:15.000 Don't videotape me doing this.

00:48:16.000 I'm like, OK, John Wayne.

00:48:18.000 No, I don't.

00:48:19.000 No, because you want it to be real.

00:48:21.000 I mean, that is a problem.

00:48:22.000 Look, I'll just say it out, you know, out front.

00:48:26.000 I am not for technology.

00:48:28.000 And I think I go too far on that.

00:48:30.000 I think it's almost like an eccentricity.

00:48:33.000 But I don't like it.

00:48:34.000 And I just don't like it.

00:48:35.000 And that's how I feel.

00:48:37.000 Technology makes my life possible.

00:48:38.000 It makes my job possible.

00:48:39.000 It feeds my children.

00:48:40.000 I mean, there's a lot of technology that's good.

00:48:43.000 I don't want to have to wash laundry by hand.

00:48:45.000 I like washing machines.

00:48:46.000 I mean, there are lots of things about technology that are good.

00:48:48.000 But in my personal life, I really try to limit its use and limit the use of electricity.

00:48:54.000 I just don't like it.

00:48:55.000 That's how I feel.

00:48:56.000 And I can't quite explain it.

00:48:57.000 But no, I feel that way really, really strongly.

00:49:00.000 And I just prefer to be in a place without it, if I can.

00:49:04.000 Most of the time I can't.

00:49:05.000 I hear I'm talking to you on some ISDN line, whatever that is.

00:49:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:49:10.000 But I think getting a respite from that is important because it restores perspective.

00:49:15.000 And if you have the chance to, you know, use a candle instead of an electric light or use an outhouse instead of a flush toilet once in a while, I think it's good for you.

00:49:24.000 I do think that.

00:49:25.000 It's definitely natural.

00:49:31.000 I don't believe in mail bombs.

00:49:33.000 I don't believe in hurting people.

00:49:34.000 I think Ted Kaczynski was insane obviously for doing that.

00:49:37.000 But Ted Kaczynski's analysis of technology, even if you don't buy it completely, and I don't buy it completely, But it's worth hearing.

00:49:43.000 It's worth thinking about.

00:49:44.000 There should be some counterbalance to the propaganda from Google and the power company that we'd all be nothing without, you know, electricity and microchips.

00:49:54.000 Like, that's not true, actually.

00:49:56.000 That's a lie.

00:49:57.000 And we should say it out loud.

00:49:58.000 It's a lie.

00:49:59.000 And I also think, honestly, that technology can be, while life-saving, you know, if my child had a medical problem, I would hope he went to a doctor, you know, who had access to electricity and machines and all that.

00:50:11.000 It's great.

00:50:12.000 But it can also be, this is just a fact, a vector for evil.

00:50:17.000 Okay, that's just true.

00:50:18.000 And somebody needs to say that.

00:50:20.000 And I don't know why that's considered crazy or, you know, I don't know, radical to say that.

00:50:25.000 I'm an incredibly moderate person.

00:50:27.000 I'm a moderate person by my temperament.

00:50:29.000 I don't like radicalism at all.

00:50:31.000 It's clear that we're way out of balance is what you're saying.

00:50:34.000 Way out of balance.

00:50:35.000 Way out of balance.

00:50:36.000 And I feel that way about so many things.

00:50:39.000 I think people who, you know...

00:50:43.000 You want to build a business?

00:50:44.000 You have to take debt in order to expand the business.

00:50:46.000 I get that.

00:50:48.000 But the idea that we're sending credit cards to college students and hooking them on debt at 28% interest and nobody knows the names of the credit card executives who are getting rich from the suffering of hundreds of millions of Americans is shocking to me.

00:51:02.000 Instead, we all hate Alex Jones because he's got naughty opinions.

00:51:05.000 Really?

00:51:06.000 What about the head of Citibank?

00:51:08.000 Who is hooking our entire country on credit cards and sending people into lifetime debt slavery.

00:51:15.000 Oh, shut up! 1.00

00:51:17.000 No, you shut up.

00:51:18.000 You shut up.

00:51:19.000 You're hooking people on debt.

00:51:20.000 You're evil.

00:51:21.000 And I think, why does no one say that?

00:51:23.000 Like, we should have at least one person saying that.

00:51:25.000 Maybe everyone else is on the side of finance, which is to say money lending.

00:51:29.000 But maybe we should have one person who's like, nah, I'm not sure it's a good idea to be in debt to someone else because then that person controls you and you're no longer free.

00:51:36.000 Like, duh!

00:51:38.000 You know what I mean?

00:51:39.000 We are totally out of balance.

00:51:40.000 Tucker, you're 100% on target.

00:51:42.000 I mean, when I'm immersed in cities and computers and work, I'm not happy.

00:51:46.000 And when I'm in nature, I am in heaven, particularly in the desert or the woods somewhere where cell phones don't work.

00:51:52.000 I just suddenly feel so calm, so good, it's amazing.

00:51:55.000 So in the time we have left here, this is an incredible interview, I literally wrote 60 plus questions and I've gotten about 10 of them.

00:52:02.000 But let's shift gears back into one of the few questions I asked your crew for, because we don't like pre-programming these interviews, but I said, what's something Tucker wants to talk about?

00:52:10.000 Saving civilization, saving humanity.

00:52:12.000 We've already kind of talked a lot about that, but specifically, let's speak to how do we stop World War III, and then the election, the lawfare, everything backfiring on the establishment.

00:52:22.000 My concern is...

00:52:23.000 What are they going to pull?

00:52:24.000 Well, right on time, the bird flu, they're trying to relaunch that.

00:52:27.000 Right on time, they're saying terrorists are about to attack if they open the borders up.

00:52:31.000 Right on time, they're trying to accelerate the war with Russia.

00:52:35.000 I mean, clearly, they're going to pull some October surprise.

00:52:39.000 What do you think that is?

00:52:42.000 I don't know what it is.

00:52:43.000 I mean, my instinct for two years has been that the war in Ukraine, the US war against Russia, Will change world history and certainly change American history and will have an effect on this election.

00:52:58.000 I really think that's the biggest thing happening right now.

00:53:00.000 There are a lot of big things happening but that's the only one with the potential to kill us all in the next three months.

00:53:05.000 So I do think that will play a role in this election because of course wartime gives government wartime powers and those are very different from peacetime powers.

00:53:14.000 Abraham Lincoln who I think was a good man in a lot of ways but became of course a dictator In the middle of civil war and suspended habeas corpus and detained people without charging them and etc, etc.

00:53:26.000 So even I think, you know, even decent men tend to become Winston Churchill, put the entire opposition party in prison with their wives for the duration of the Second World War. 0.73

00:53:38.000 I don't think Churchill was the most evil man in history.

00:53:40.000 I think that's an evil thing to do.

00:53:42.000 And so even good people can become fascist during wartime, and almost always do.

00:53:48.000 So that's something to remember, I think.

00:53:51.000 As to what we can do about it, well, we can do what we're doing, which is to try and tell the truth without fear, as clearly as we can, as thoughtfully as we can, as non-hysterically, as persuasively as we can.

00:54:01.000 But I think the main thing that we can do is recognize our inability to really do anything, because we're not in charge, actually.

00:54:07.000 And so what you can do is become a better person, a more virtuous person, and say your freakin' prayers.

00:54:15.000 I really believe that.

00:54:16.000 I think that.

00:54:17.000 Because at a certain point, like, countries get what they want.

00:54:20.000 And if, you know, all of a sudden you wake up in a country where, you know, a lot of people are convinced it's more virtuous to abort a child than to have a child, If people are convinced that, like, war with Russia is somehow really important because Neville Chamberlain bad or whatever, you know, it's hard to stop that.

00:54:36.000 It is.

00:54:37.000 It's hard to stop that.

00:54:38.000 And so you really need to appeal to a higher power because your power is limited.

00:54:43.000 Like, I tell myself this all the time.

00:54:45.000 Like, something will happen.

00:54:46.000 I'll get completely outraged.

00:54:47.000 I got to talk about this!

00:54:48.000 And then part of me says, you know, but don't fool yourself.

00:54:51.000 Like, talking about things Is not, in the end, you know, the same as like commanding an army or being God.

00:54:58.000 Like, you can't, your power is limited.

00:55:00.000 And for breaking news and updates, be sure and follow me @ReelAlexJones here on X.

00:55:05.000 [Music]

00:55:31.000 When I look at Bitcoin as a historian, I don't like it because this is a money built on distrust.

00:55:41.000 The central idea of Bitcoin is basically electronic gold.

00:55:45.000 That we don't trust the banks, the governments, so we don't want to give them the ability to create as much money as they like.

00:55:54.000 So we create this Bitcoin.

00:55:57.000 It's a currency of distrust.

00:55:59.000 Of you.

00:56:00.000 I do think that the future belongs to electronic money.

00:56:03.000 But what we've seen over the last centuries is that it's actually a good idea to give banks and governments the ability to create more and more money for themselves in order to build more trust within society.

00:56:20.000 So I'm not sure what money would look like in 20 years or 30 years, but I hope it will be a currency of greater trust and not a currency of distrust.

00:56:34.000 Finishing up, you all know Harari and just how full of crap he is as an economist.

00:56:38.000 You as an economist watching him.

00:56:41.000 So I'm watching that and I'm thinking, is this guy absolutely nuts?

00:56:44.000 I mean, he is a smart guy.

00:56:45.000 He's evil, but he's a smart guy.

00:56:48.000 How could he say that printing money is going to bring trust when so much in our society right now is people can't afford to eat, they can't afford to pay their mortgage or their rent or buy food or do anything, right?

00:57:03.000 Inflation doesn't bring trust.

00:57:06.000 He's misusing the word trust.

00:57:09.000 Because what he's actually saying is, hey, when we print money, we're going to be able to give you Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, handouts, stimulus.

00:57:20.000 We'll raise the debt ceiling to keep this game perpetuated.

00:57:23.000 We'll do all of this stuff.

00:57:25.000 And so then the people will say, Trust?

00:57:29.000 It's like, I'll tolerate you because you're giving me free stuff.

00:57:29.000 What?

00:57:33.000 That's not trust.

00:57:35.000 That's accepting they're garbage because they're giving you free stuff.

00:57:39.000 That comes with printing of money excessively.

00:57:42.000 So, misuse of the word trust, because I don't think he's a dumb guy.

00:57:46.000 I think he's evil, beyond evil, who has no respect for human life.

00:57:51.000 They just said that we're going to continue to print money.

00:57:55.000 We're going to continue to make people dependent on the government for all of their needs, because the government wants to take the place of God in people's lives.

00:58:07.000 And that statement, when you dissect what he said, that's what he's saying.

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00:58:56.000 What did he just say?

00:58:58.000 He said there's a storm coming in.

00:59:05.000 I know.

00:59:07.000 We told you what was going to happen and it did.

00:59:11.000 Now we're telling you what's coming at RealAlexJones on X.

00:59:18.000 [Music]

00:59:30.000 The United States looks just like Ancient Rome did in its final days of...

00:59:34.000 Of course, Rome didn't fall in a day, but when it finally received its death blow in 476 AD, its world power status had declined due to several corrosive reasons.

00:59:46.000 Germanic tribes had beaten Roman forces into submission as Rome had Not many of us say to our sons and daughters, I'm hoping the day will come when you decide to go and pick fruit for a living.

00:59:56.000 and slave labor dried up, forcing the complacent, unskilled Romans to fend for themselves. 0.84

01:00:03.000 Sound familiar?

01:00:04.000 Not many of us say to our sons and daughters, "I'm hoping the day will come when you decide to go and pick fruit for a living."

01:00:13.000 Hardly ever hear that.

01:00:14.000 One of the most often made arguments with regard to immigration is that they only do jobs that Americans don't want.

01:00:21.000 But in a recent analysis we actually looked at all 474 occupations as defined by the Department of Commerce and found that there were only six that were majority immigrant and those jobs only account for about 1% of the U.S.

01:00:32.000 workforce.

01:00:34.000 But the final knife in Rome's back was that it lost its identity.

01:00:38.000 Most importantly, Rome allowed the barbarian hordes to settle within its borders, which eventually led to an uprising, putting an end to the identity of a thousand-year-old world power civilization.

01:00:51.000 Fast forward to 2021, and the United Nations has already decided for every citizen in the United States that over the next As you know, the Secretary General has been concerned about this for a long time, and I'm very pleased that he's launched this program against xenophobia.

01:01:13.000 If all of the migrants, recently arrived migrants in New York City, were to form a city, they'd probably be the third or fourth largest city in the United States. 0.93

01:01:21.000 As it reads from the United Nations' own website on replacement migration, United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries will face population decline and population aging.

01:01:37.000 The report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom, and the United States.

01:01:49.000 Ask yourself, Do we really need the United Nations help?

01:01:52.000 During the baby boom following World War II, nearly 80 million babies were born.

01:01:57.000 And for some reason, we can't do that again?

01:02:00.000 Your child's school nearly doubled its enrollment.

01:02:03.000 The result?

01:02:04.000 Classroom shortage.

01:02:05.000 There weren't enough classrooms and desks.

01:02:08.000 They gave my boy half a seat.

01:02:12.000 To give every student some kind of education, many schools had resorted to teaching kids in shifts.

01:02:19.000 That was too bad.

01:02:21.000 Students sat at their desks for just two hours and then went home.

01:02:25.000 Instead, bumbling, stumbling Joe Biden would have us all replaced in favor of a New World Order autocracy of which he is an acolyte and a puppet.

01:02:34.000 The affirmative task we have now is to actually create a New World Order.

01:02:43.000 His deceptive intentions are so transparent a five-year-old can read between the lines.

01:02:50.000 I think this generation can be marked by the competition between democracies and autocracies.

01:02:57.000 Because the world is changing so rapidly.

01:03:02.000 The autocrats are betting on democracy not being able to generate the kind of unity needed to make decisions to get in that race.

01:03:09.000 Does anyone know who this person is?

01:03:13.000 What is her name?

01:03:15.000 Maxwell.

01:03:15.000 Who is this person?

01:03:18.000 Maxwell.

01:03:20.000 Is it the lady who got killed?

01:03:23.000 This is one of the sisters who got killed on Thursday.

01:03:27.000 Anyone knows her name?

01:03:30.000 Anyone knows what is her crime?

01:03:33.000 It's nothing new. Christianity is under attack worldwide. From North Korea to Yemen to China to Somalia. Alarmingly, the persecution of Christians is exponentially getting more severe

01:03:50.000 than ever. The number of Christians facing extreme levels of persecution for their faith rose from 245 million to 260 million last year in the top 50 countries on the world

01:04:03.000 watch list. Of the top 50, 45 countries have been designated extreme or very high in terms of the levels of persecution Christians face. That's five more countries than the previous

01:04:17.000 Attacks against churches have risen 500%.

01:04:19.000 On average, 13 Christians are killed every day because of their faith.

01:04:26.000 And speaking of faith, overall, Americans' membership in houses of war...

01:04:30.000 [MUSIC]

01:04:36.000 From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.

01:04:41.000 [MUSIC]

01:04:46.000 And so I think it's important to appeal to a higher power.

01:04:50.000 If this is a spiritual war, and clearly it is, just on the... I mean, I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I've just tried to contain it to, like, the logical unpacking of it.

01:04:57.000 I don't see what else it could be other than a spiritual war.

01:05:00.000 Well, Tucker, I think you're being very... I think you're being very healthy.

01:05:05.000 Being humble, but you are doing something about it.

01:05:07.000 That's why they want to stop you.

01:05:08.000 I think we have to understand that individually, you know, we can reach out to others, but I get your point.

01:05:13.000 So looking at this, we saw January 6th.

01:05:16.000 You've really been the tip of the spear exposing that it was a provocative event.

01:05:20.000 It's come out in Congress now.

01:05:21.000 It's all been confirmed.

01:05:23.000 Puppet committee has destroyed all their evidence because it showed the truth that they were engineering at the new Pelosi video admitting they basically had to stand down they wouldn't let the National Guard out.

01:05:31.000 We walked, I was there, we walked into a trap on that we saw Pelosi then with the military parades that she was there inspecting and the barbed wire and all these really fascistic totalitarian things we saw and now they're all over the news as you know saying They're training militias, right-wingers, terrorists.

01:05:51.000 They're going to attack.

01:05:53.000 They're pre-programming that.

01:05:54.000 And just like with the fake Governor Whitmer kidnapping, I don't believe, I know, because they've done this before and they're telegraphing it, they're planning to try to trigger civil unrest if they build a civil war.

01:06:05.000 They've got the movies out.

01:06:06.000 They've got it all pre-programmed.

01:06:08.000 That's another one of my big concerns.

01:06:09.000 What's your view on that?

01:06:12.000 Well, that's so obviously true.

01:06:13.000 I mean, you know, one of the many binaries, I think, in life is male-female, masculine-feminine.

01:06:20.000 And there are two ways of fighting and communicating.

01:06:24.000 And they're very different.

01:06:25.000 In fact, they're poles.

01:06:27.000 They're the opposite of one another.

01:06:28.000 One is direct.

01:06:30.000 That's, of course, the masculine form.

01:06:31.000 And the other is indirect.

01:06:33.000 And that's the female form. 1.00

01:06:34.000 And the Democratic Party is, of course, a female party. 0.99

01:06:37.000 And that's how they fight.

01:06:39.000 They fight by You know, they hit you in the face and scream, STOP PUNCHING ME!

01:06:45.000 STOP PUNCHING ME!

01:06:47.000 That's exactly what they do.

01:06:49.000 A man fights, he says, what'd you do?

01:06:51.000 I'm gonna kick your ass and then does it. 1.00

01:06:53.000 Of course.

01:06:54.000 And so, January 6th was sort of in keeping with the way they approached the world.

01:06:58.000 It was a passive-aggressive action.

01:07:01.000 It was, set this up, make it seem like the other guys are attacking, and then crush them.

01:07:09.000 And so, of course, they don't change.

01:07:10.000 That's who they are.

01:07:11.000 They're feline, not canine.

01:07:15.000 And they will do something very much like that, of course.

01:07:18.000 But I don't think that that should deter people from Saying what they think is true and being bold in doing that.

01:07:27.000 And so, for example, Trump is being sentenced on July 11th, so a week before the Republican convention, and they may remand him, they may send him right to jail.

01:07:38.000 How should he respond to that?

01:07:39.000 I mean, there are two ways to respond.

01:07:40.000 One, Is by, you know, doing what they say, doing a press conference from jail.

01:07:46.000 They're persecuting me the other way, and I can't recommend the better way, but there is another way, which is to say, no, this is completely illegitimate.

01:07:53.000 I'm not going to jail.

01:07:54.000 This is a fake crime.

01:07:56.000 You never would have indicted me for it if I hadn't been challenging your power.

01:07:59.000 If I wasn't running for president, I wouldn't be sentenced to jail right now.

01:08:02.000 That's just a fact.

01:08:02.000 Everyone knows that's true.

01:08:04.000 This whole process is a sham.

01:08:05.000 I don't believe in your system.

01:08:07.000 My ancestors created this system and you've taken it over somehow.

01:08:10.000 And perverted it into something unrecognizable.

01:08:12.000 And I'm not playing along.

01:08:14.000 I'm not playing along.

01:08:15.000 I'm not actually going to jail, so why don't you make me?

01:08:17.000 And, you know, that is a way to approach it.

01:08:20.000 And I would say that's the more direct way.

01:08:22.000 Like, why play along with this stuff?

01:08:24.000 What are you going to do about it?

01:08:25.000 But in order to take that posture, you have to be ready to, you know, to get hurt.

01:08:32.000 You do.

01:08:33.000 But I would argue that you have to be ready to get hurt whenever you tell the truth, you know, physically or in some other way.

01:08:40.000 You know, you have to, you know, there's a risk involved.

01:08:42.000 That's why everyone went and took the vax because like they don't want to take the vax.

01:08:45.000 Many people didn't, but they're like, it's not worth dealing with the consequences.

01:08:48.000 So let me stop you.

01:08:49.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

01:08:50.000 This is, this is incredible.

01:08:51.000 And I've been, you're right.

01:08:53.000 I've been thinking about this.

01:08:55.000 I've tried to be Gandhi-esque and have said, you know, never be violent in any way, offensively.

01:09:00.000 But there comes a point with civil disobedience where these are kangaroo courts, it's all been proven, and this is the other political party that's trying to take him off the ballot and been caught at every level rigging these cases, and it's all blown up their face, where Trump then finally says, no, I'm staying here at Mar-a-Lago, this is a fraud, I'm not going.

01:09:19.000 The problem is then the deep state stages terror attacks, blames Trump supporters for it.

01:09:23.000 And so Trump currently saying, I don't mind going to jail.

01:09:25.000 He's going to put himself in jail in Rutgers Island.

01:09:27.000 My concern is they might poison or kill him.

01:09:29.000 They're that desperate.

01:09:30.000 So speak to that.

01:09:32.000 And then clearly he has secret service because presidents are under threat.

01:09:35.000 And political assassination goes on all the time.

01:09:37.000 They just pumped a month ago, five bullets in the Slovakian.

01:09:41.000 a President FICO, and they're trying to kill the other leaders.

01:09:45.000 This is what happens at the start of a major world war.

01:09:48.000 So it's very paradoxical.

01:09:50.000 So can you quantify, I don't think you're calling for either in a way, but you're just basically putting on the table what the options are of what's happening.

01:10:01.000 I mean, I have no idea what the right answer is.

01:10:03.000 I'm, thank God, not facing a decision like that.

01:10:06.000 Trump is.

01:10:07.000 And I think he'll probably, if he's remanded to jail, he'll probably go to jail.

01:10:10.000 I'm only saying, at a certain point, it's important to acknowledge reality.

01:10:14.000 And here's the reality.

01:10:16.000 This is not justice.

01:10:16.000 This is not a justice system.

01:10:18.000 This is a husk of a system built by other people hundreds of years ago that has been taken over by new people who perverted its original intent.

01:10:26.000 It's not real, it's fake.

01:10:27.000 It's a coup!

01:10:28.000 Harvard University was the place where the smartest people in the country went.

01:10:32.000 Now it's a place where you go based on your sex and your race, and the standards have been dropped dramatically, and the rest of us pretend that this zombie institution is the institution that we remember.

01:10:42.000 And it's not.

01:10:43.000 And it's just important to say that.

01:10:44.000 I mean, in Zimbabwe, at the height of Mugabe's reign of terror against whites, he used the British, effectively Anglo justice system in place in Zimbabwe to crush the people whose ancestors built it.

01:11:00.000 It wasn't a real system.

01:11:01.000 It had bore no resemblance whatsoever to the system that had been in place before Mugabe got there, except, you know, the outward, you know, affectations are all the same.

01:11:10.000 The judges still wore wigs.

01:11:11.000 They still, you know, called the court to order with a gavel.

01:11:15.000 But at its heart, it was a completely different thing.

01:11:17.000 And You know, you can argue about whether it's a better thing or a worse thing.

01:11:21.000 I'm just noting the obvious.

01:11:22.000 But that brings us to lawfare.

01:11:23.000 And I think it's important to say that.

01:11:26.000 It is.

01:11:26.000 That brings us to lawfare.

01:11:28.000 I mean, I've experienced it.

01:11:29.000 It's not about me.

01:11:30.000 I knew I was a beta test where I'm found guilty by two judges.

01:11:33.000 Then they have show trials produced by HBO with the judges putting on makeup with scripts.

01:11:38.000 And so I was there in a movie production, and to me it wasn't about, oh, I feel sorry for myself.

01:11:43.000 I was like, holy crap, we're in a lot of trouble.

01:11:47.000 And then now we've seen it with Trump and everybody else and Steve Bannon and Navarro.

01:11:51.000 I mean, imagine if they're able to steal the election again.

01:11:54.000 what they're going to do, because they've said on MSNBC, as you know, and everywhere, oh, we're going to not just go after Trump, all his supporters. And Biden put out in 2021

01:12:04.000 his national security directive, the main threats, white supremacy, that basically is almost non-existent when it comes to violence. And then he went on, as you know, to say, what is the

01:12:13.000 definition of white supremacy? Questioning an election, questioning lockdowns, questioning open borders, questioning forced inoculations.

01:12:21.000 So what do you imagine they're going to do if they're able to steal it again?

01:12:25.000 What do you see unfolding there?

01:12:26.000 And what will they do if they retain power in this in this in this societal coup?

01:12:33.000 Well, what won't they do?

01:12:34.000 I mean, they they're they're trying to put the front runner in the presidential race in prison for the rest of his life for things that are not crimes.

01:12:43.000 So that's just I mean, that it answers its own question, like they will do anything Um, and I would expect that to continue.

01:12:51.000 I mean, I do think the formality of these elections is really irksome to them.

01:12:56.000 They hate the whole idea that people they despise would have a role in choosing the government or have any power whatsoever or be disobedient in any way.

01:13:04.000 So they hate elections.

01:13:05.000 The defenders of democracy hate above all democracy, of course.

01:13:09.000 And so I think they will go very, very far in eliminating it.

01:13:13.000 I do think that.

01:13:14.000 And that's why I think that this election is potentially the last one, you know, real election.

01:13:20.000 I think to the extent it's even real.

01:13:22.000 As to what we can do, I mean, look, I'll just tell you what I've resolved to do, which I'm not going to hurt anybody.

01:13:27.000 I don't believe in hurting other people except in self-defense.

01:13:29.000 And I really mean that.

01:13:30.000 That's a religious precept for me and I'm not going to change.

01:13:32.000 Period.

01:13:33.000 So I'm not staging any kind of violent revolution against anybody, and I'm not going to.

01:13:37.000 And I wouldn't recommend anyone else do it either, but I'll tell you what I've decided.

01:13:41.000 But I'm going to tell the truth no matter what.

01:13:43.000 Period.

01:13:44.000 I'm going to say it as loudly as I possibly can, recognizing the whole time that the consequences could be very severe.

01:13:51.000 I mean, I know for a fact they could be already dealt with this a little bit.

01:13:55.000 And I mean, actual consequences.

01:13:57.000 But that's just what it is.

01:13:58.000 Like, what did you expect life was going to be about?

01:14:01.000 Just ordering shit from Amazon?

01:14:02.000 Like, this is what it is, actually.

01:14:05.000 This is what it's always been.

01:14:07.000 And we just grew up, or I'll speak for myself, I grew up in a world so insulated from reality, In 1985, America was just so rich, effectively unchallenged internationally, so stable domestically, that you never really had to face human nature.

01:14:21.000 Well, now we do have to face human nature, and human nature is, you know, both good and bad, and there's certainly ugly parts of it.

01:14:27.000 I mean, as, you know, in Jeremiah, it says, who knows the depravity of the human heart?

01:14:31.000 Like, it's like, they're capable, people are capable of anything, at their worst.

01:14:36.000 And so just know that.

01:14:38.000 It's alright.

01:14:38.000 Just know that.

01:14:39.000 And stop being so shocked by it.

01:14:41.000 Like, would they kill people to take control of the world?

01:14:43.000 Are you joking?

01:14:44.000 Yeah.

01:14:45.000 Who wouldn't?

01:14:46.000 Absolutely.

01:14:46.000 People have always killed people to take control of the world.

01:14:48.000 Right.

01:14:48.000 So like, you really do need to get out.

01:14:50.000 I think it's easier for young people to get this because they didn't grow up.

01:14:54.000 in this country with the expectation that, you know, everything will always be great.

01:14:57.000 I mean, that's the country that I grew up in. I think you did as well.

01:15:00.000 Normalcy bias.

01:15:01.000 You couldn't even imagine.

01:15:02.000 Yeah, exactly. That's a nice way to put it.

01:15:05.000 So just, like, know that, and if you're going to participate in it, speaking for myself, in a non-violent way,

01:15:11.000 know that telling the truth and you're a living example of this is enough to get you killed.

01:15:15.000 Telling the truth is that offensive to the people in charge because they're not just liars.

01:15:20.000 Their currency is lies.

01:15:21.000 They're about lies.

01:15:22.000 The whole thing is a lie.

01:15:24.000 And truth is the most offensive thing to them.

01:15:26.000 So yeah, could you get killed?

01:15:27.000 Absolutely, you could get killed.

01:15:28.000 But maybe stop whining about it and do the right thing.

01:15:30.000 I was about to say the alternative.

01:15:33.000 I would much rather be killed telling the truth than I would, like, die of ALS or something.

01:15:37.000 Like, we're all going to die in the end.

01:15:39.000 I don't want to.

01:15:40.000 I'm not on a suicide trip.

01:15:42.000 I love my life.

01:15:43.000 And I love my children and my wife and my friends and my dogs and the whole thing.

01:15:46.000 But you are going to die, so you might as well be brave.

01:15:50.000 That's how I feel about it.

01:15:51.000 And when you have that attitude, you have a vibrant, powerful civilization.

01:15:54.000 But when you're always cowering to whoever's bullying you, then the worst bullies ascend to power.

01:15:58.000 There was a famous interview with the newspaper with Thomas Jefferson.

01:16:01.000 It's where the quote comes from of all the evil men and tyrants need to flourish as good men do nothing.

01:16:07.000 The newspaper interviewer said, well, what's the level that tyrants will go?

01:16:10.000 And he said, whatever level you accept, because there's always one worse that will replace them.

01:16:14.000 Tucker, we've been going for an hour.

01:16:16.000 You've agreed to do about 25, 30 more minutes.

01:16:18.000 Do you want to take a quick little break here and come back or just keep going?

01:16:22.000 No, I'm totally good.

01:16:24.000 I would just say, you know, part of it is like, I don't think I'll ever figure out in my lifetime until I'm dead.

01:16:30.000 Um, what went on, you know, over the past 10 years, it's too confusing, you know, and I don't think any person can fully understand the moment he's living in.

01:16:40.000 But it does seem pretty clear to me that generational affluence has made America a lot weaker.

01:16:45.000 I'm not for poverty.

01:16:47.000 I'm not, you know, saying it's a good thing to not have enough to eat.

01:16:50.000 I'm not.

01:16:51.000 But meritocracy has been murdered.

01:16:54.000 Well, meritocracy is long gone, but generational affluence is bad for families and it's bad for countries.

01:17:01.000 And I think one of the things we're seeing now is that people just feel like, just make the pain stop.

01:17:07.000 I'm super, super comfortable.

01:17:09.000 I don't want to be uncomfortable.

01:17:11.000 And I get that.

01:17:11.000 I feel the same way, by the way.

01:17:12.000 I'm not judging anyone.

01:17:14.000 I just want to be comfortable.

01:17:15.000 I get it.

01:17:16.000 But that's not sort of an option right now, actually.

01:17:19.000 Being comfortable is not on the menu.

01:17:22.000 You're going to be uncomfortable.

01:17:25.000 Yeah, and it's better to choose dignity, I think.

01:17:29.000 It's better to be dignified about it.

01:17:31.000 And what does that mean specifically?

01:17:32.000 It means saying what you think is true, because you're not a slave.

01:17:35.000 You're a human being.

01:17:35.000 You're made by God, not the Biden administration.

01:17:38.000 You have an inherent right to say what you think, to believe what you want.

01:17:43.000 And the second someone tries to take that away from you, you know, you have a moral obligation to resist that.

01:17:50.000 You have to.

01:17:50.000 You don't have a choice.

01:17:51.000 I mean, by the way, most days I would rather just sit in bed and eat French toast and read PG Woodhouse novels with my dogs, okay?

01:17:58.000 That's kind of my preferred, you know what I mean?

01:18:00.000 Sounds good.

01:18:01.000 Oh, believe me.

01:18:02.000 Lazy and self-indulgent.

01:18:03.000 No, I am.

01:18:04.000 But that's just not a choice.

01:18:06.000 We don't have that choice.

01:18:08.000 So be a man about it.

01:18:11.000 Don't lie to yourself.

01:18:12.000 Am I going to go along with the deception and become something less than human?

01:18:18.000 Or am I going to say in a gentle, non-violent, but persistent way, no, I'm not doing that.

01:18:24.000 I'm not taking your COVID vax.

01:18:26.000 I'm not going to pretend boys can become girls. 0.67

01:18:28.000 I'm not going to, you know, mouth the slogans about Vladimir Putin and Zelensky that you're telling me to mouth.

01:18:34.000 I'm just not going to do that.

01:18:36.000 And there's nothing you can do to me that will make me do that.

01:18:38.000 That's beautiful, Tucker.

01:18:39.000 Including death, and I mean it.

01:18:42.000 So, I've got a bunch of questions now I want to race through here with you.

01:18:45.000 So since you talk about it, knowing Trump, and I've been the same, I've been mad at Trump, I've supported Trump.

01:18:52.000 We're not zombies, we're not slaves.

01:18:54.000 Sometimes I hate him, sometimes I love him.

01:18:56.000 I've been public about that.

01:18:57.000 They're like, why did Tucker say bad things?

01:18:58.000 He says good things.

01:18:58.000 Well, it's a complex issue.

01:19:00.000 Why do they hate Trump so much?

01:19:01.000 Let's be completely honest.

01:19:03.000 I know you're a nice guy, but I want your real critique of Trump.

01:19:06.000 Why do they hate Trump so much?

01:19:09.000 And also, who is Donald Trump?

01:19:14.000 Well, Trump is a really unusual person, an extraordinary person.

01:19:19.000 You know, not all good.

01:19:20.000 Obviously, nobody is, but he's unusual.

01:19:22.000 There aren't many people.

01:19:23.000 I know a lot of people.

01:19:24.000 My job is knowing people, talking to people.

01:19:26.000 I haven't met anybody like Trump ever.

01:19:29.000 Um, who is he really?

01:19:30.000 I mean, you know, we'll know that when we die.

01:19:33.000 You know, it's hard to know who people really are.

01:19:35.000 And I should just say, I've been mad at Trump.

01:19:38.000 I've said so.

01:19:39.000 But my gut level affection for Trump is really strong.

01:19:42.000 I just like Trump.

01:19:43.000 I like talking to Trump.

01:19:44.000 I like having dinner with Trump.

01:19:45.000 He's just an appealing guy.

01:19:47.000 So I should say that.

01:19:48.000 But who is he really?

01:19:49.000 I mean, that's a, you know, these are deep waters.

01:19:51.000 I don't, who am I really?

01:19:52.000 I, you know, God will judge that.

01:19:54.000 But I would say they hate Trump for reasons that are not obvious.

01:19:59.000 So if what they wanted was a certain policy outcome, you know, Trump is not very ideological.

01:20:05.000 So like if the most important thing to permanent Washington was continuing to fund Zelensky, and that is very important to them, then they would just say, look, we're going to shut off all campaign donations and send you to prison until you agree to fund Ukraine forever.

01:20:18.000 And Trump would probably say, OK, it's worth it.

01:20:20.000 That's not what this is about.

01:20:21.000 I mean, they want that, but that's not what it's about.

01:20:24.000 They understand, and by they I mean the bipartisan coalition that runs Washington and has for decades and has really run America into the ground and mismanaged the world to the point where we're on the cusp of nuclear war.

01:20:34.000 Okay, those people.

01:20:36.000 Those people understand.

01:20:37.000 They've kind of come to the end.

01:20:39.000 They've come to the end.

01:20:39.000 They have no inherent credibility.

01:20:41.000 They're not democratically elected.

01:20:44.000 I think the last election was a sham.

01:20:45.000 Even if it was real, the majority of the population does not support their program.

01:20:49.000 So they don't have a democratic mandate, which is to say a legitimate mandate.

01:20:53.000 In a democracy, legitimacy derives from the population.

01:20:55.000 If most people don't support something, then it's not legitimate, right?

01:20:57.000 Because it's a democracy.

01:20:59.000 That simple.

01:21:00.000 They don't have that, so they know they're illegitimate.

01:21:03.000 They know that if they lose, they're going to face consequences to some extent.

01:21:07.000 Probably not great consequences, let's be honest, but some consequences.

01:21:10.000 But more to the point, when you are fragile, when you realize that people don't really support you, when you know that you're illegitimate, when you know you've committed criminal acts, and they have, a lot of them, Then any chink in the armor is potentially fatal, because you are weak. 0.99

01:21:27.000 That's the truth.

01:21:28.000 They are weak.

01:21:29.000 Their empire is built on lies, purely on deception, and you can feel it when you deal with them.

01:21:34.000 Weak people are fragile.

01:21:36.000 It's the divorced mom with a hangover like, SHUT UP! 1.00

01:21:39.000 SHUT UP! 1.00

01:21:40.000 STOP! 1.00

01:21:42.000 Whereas, you know, the strong sober dad is like, settle down a little bit.

01:21:46.000 You know, it's okay.

01:21:47.000 Strong people are not hysterical.

01:21:47.000 Right?

01:21:49.000 Weak people are hysterical.

01:21:51.000 So their gut level understanding and they're absolutely right.

01:21:54.000 If they let... So if I were running this, I'd say, just let the guy win.

01:21:57.000 Why do you care?

01:21:58.000 It's four years.

01:21:59.000 It's a lot easier.

01:22:00.000 You don't have to have all these fights.

01:22:02.000 You don't have to go crazy or reckless.

01:22:03.000 Let the guy win and then, you know, win again in four years.

01:22:06.000 Or like, how about make a little bigger effort with working class whites?

01:22:09.000 Like, why is that so hard?

01:22:11.000 And isn't that Trump's biggest success, Tucker, is that he's drawn out the deep state?

01:22:15.000 Well that is his success, but they can't allow him... I've only reached this conclusion recently because it's not obvious as a political analysis.

01:22:25.000 There are other ways to get what you want than what they're doing.

01:22:28.000 But Trump as a symbol is deadly to them.

01:22:32.000 If Trump is elected again, Their whole system, like they fear that their whole system and not just the government but you know the spider web of NGOs and publicly traded businesses.

01:22:45.000 It emboldens the people.

01:22:47.000 He's not out to get the people.

01:22:47.000 I mean that's it.

01:22:49.000 He knows he makes mistakes.

01:22:50.000 He's pro-human, pro-populist.

01:22:52.000 He went to Kim Jong-un and said let's just build hotels and casinos.

01:22:55.000 What's your problem?

01:22:56.000 He just, he wants success and they don't.

01:22:58.000 They're feudalist, feudal controllers.

01:23:00.000 They don't want that.

01:23:02.000 Well, I just think as a symbol, that you're absolutely right, but as a symbol, if he becomes president, what does it suggest?

01:23:09.000 It suggests that their whole sort of empire of bullshit is collapsing.

01:23:16.000 And they've said that in the Financial Times and Atlantic Monthly, which is their mouthpiece.

01:23:19.000 They said, if the populists get Trump in again, it's over because it emboldens the populists.

01:23:26.000 I think that's right.

01:23:26.000 I mean, just imagine running what you describe as a constitutional republic or a democracy and waking up one morning and finding that your greatest fear is that the majority will get what it wants.

01:23:38.000 You would think some self-awareness alarm would go off and be like, wait a second, isn't the whole point of this project to deliver to the majority what it wants because they own the government, not me?

01:23:49.000 But it never seems to occur to them.

01:23:50.000 Maybe it doesn't.

01:23:51.000 I don't know what they actually think.

01:23:53.000 All I know is that they've decided that, and I think it's absurd, I think permanent Washington could easily outlive another four years of Trump, just as it did the first four years of Trump.

01:24:04.000 But they don't feel that way at all.

01:24:06.000 And so they will do anything.

01:24:08.000 And I've talked to Trump about this a number of times.

01:24:11.000 He's not engaged with me on it.

01:24:13.000 He's not stupid.

01:24:14.000 Of course, he understands But he won't respond on the assassination question, so you speak to it.

01:24:19.000 He will not.

01:24:20.000 That's clearly the next move.

01:24:21.000 Right.

01:24:22.000 Well, that's right.

01:24:23.000 And by the way, I think it's a little bit too obvious to, you know, shoot people on a motorcade.

01:24:28.000 They'll poison him.

01:24:30.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:24:31.000 61 years later.

01:24:32.000 Yeah.

01:24:33.000 People, there are a lot of ways.

01:24:35.000 I mean, You know, you do sort of wonder how Jack Ruby died of galloping cancer like a week before his second trial.

01:24:42.000 Like, what was that?

01:24:43.000 Yeah, they have weaponized cancer that'll kill you in two weeks.

01:24:46.000 But a CIA psychiatrist, you know, Jolly West visits him and then next thing you know, oh, I've got terminal cancer!

01:24:52.000 Oh, I'm dead in a week!

01:24:54.000 Okay.

01:24:55.000 Um, so, you know, look, I don't know.

01:24:56.000 I'm not a physician.

01:24:57.000 I'm not a master of the dark arts.

01:24:59.000 Um, but I don't, I don't think like shooting people in public is, uh, you know, it's, it's a little bit obvious at this point, but there are, there are lots of ways that like, honestly, if you think this is a spiritual war and you're not saying prayers every day, then you don't really think it's a spiritual war.

01:25:17.000 Do you?

01:25:18.000 Right.

01:25:19.000 And I obviously, so I really do think it's a spiritual war.

01:25:22.000 I really do believe that.

01:25:23.000 And these are physical manifestations of an age old conflict.

01:25:29.000 I mean, literally age old, since the beginning of time, this conflict has been playing out.

01:25:34.000 And we have the privilege of knowing that, like this is kind of the last conclusion I ever thought I would come to in my life.

01:25:40.000 Growing up in a materialist, rational world in Southern California in the 70s and 80s, if you told me that by 55 I'd be like sitting talking to Alex Jones about how we're in a spiritual war, I'd be like, what?

01:25:52.000 No!

01:25:52.000 I don't think so!

01:25:54.000 But it's just so obvious.

01:25:57.000 And so I do think prayer plays a huge, huge role in this, like a pivotal role in it.

01:26:02.000 And I hope people take that seriously.

01:26:06.000 Well, we do take it seriously.

01:26:07.000 So we're at a major crossroads, to me, The dark forces spiritually manipulating and controlling these minions, these failures, these fallen clown show vassals who really are just spiritual puppets, they're scared of something coming.

01:26:21.000 And if you study the Bible and other ancient religions, they talk about not the fake liberal New Age stuff, but humans going next level.

01:26:31.000 And I'm seeing a splitting away, people that get more into darkness, more dumbed down, or people Really becoming more attuned, more connected, more aware.

01:26:38.000 It's not just you and I, or Joe Rogan waking up, or Jimmy Dore, or Russell Brand, or everybody.

01:26:44.000 And notice how all the popular people, despite censorship and attack, are people that are pro-human.

01:26:49.000 Because humans actually want that.

01:26:50.000 It's like we're selling snow cones in hell.

01:26:54.000 But at the same time, the system is rushing into control.

01:26:58.000 I really feel they're scared of humanity reaching a zenith or a tipping point.

01:27:03.000 So what's your view on that?

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01:28:41.000 Well, I mean, I think this is an attempt to extinguish humanity.

01:28:44.000 You know, if you're a Christian, and I, you know, I can't speak for other religions, so I think this is kind of a commonly held belief among all world religions or most anyway, but if you're certainly if you're a Christian, you believe that Mankind, people, were created in God's image.

01:28:56.000 We're not gods, but God created us in His image.

01:28:59.000 So if your program is to oppose God, then by definition you're going to want to kill all the people.

01:29:06.000 So it makes sense theologically, it makes sense intuitively, and I sincerely believe that that is exactly what's happening.

01:29:16.000 So how do you respond to it?

01:29:17.000 Well, with bravery, without fear, Like, again, I don't know what everyone's so afraid of.

01:29:23.000 It's so weird.

01:29:24.000 Everyone's so... I mean, I'm not... I'm trying not to be judgy.

01:29:26.000 I mean, there are things worth being afraid of, I guess.

01:29:29.000 But telling the truth and standing firm in what you know to be true?

01:29:34.000 There's no reason to fear that.

01:29:35.000 Like, what's the worst thing?

01:29:37.000 Like, if we're living in a totalitarian moment where the aim is to kill people, okay?

01:29:43.000 You already know how it's going to end if you don't do anything.

01:29:47.000 So why not just smile and tell the truth?

01:29:53.000 many months later I mean, like, what's the worst that can happen?

01:30:19.000 Well, what's going to happen anyway?

01:30:20.000 But at least you retain your dignity.

01:30:22.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:22.000 I just don't get it.

01:30:24.000 Why is it so hard?

01:30:25.000 I totally agree with you.

01:30:26.000 For me, the great part of being on Earth 30 years, you 30 plus years, is the learning process of trying to tell the truth, trying to learn the truth, getting more and more accurate, still making mistakes.

01:30:36.000 But for me, when I meet black, white, Hispanic, old, young, Asian, it doesn't matter, people that love liberty, that love freedom, they have electric eyes.

01:30:46.000 And the children of those people have electric eyes like they did 20, 30 years ago.

01:30:50.000 Everybody had those.

01:30:50.000 There's like a soullessness in people now that aren't awake.

01:30:53.000 They're disconnected.

01:30:54.000 So to me, the journey is the destination.

01:30:57.000 And to me, it's getting to meet all the really awake people.

01:31:01.000 This is amazing!

01:31:02.000 And then I get around Globalist, not as much as you've been around over the years, but I've been to some of the events and I've had private meetings with them when they want to meet.

01:31:08.000 I met with some of the Bilderberg Group members and Kissinger tried to get me in 15 years to go to work for him, did it in front of my producer.

01:31:14.000 But I'm around them, they feel so unhappy and I feel an emptiness, but I'm around you and your wife and your dogs and your crew are around, or just old men, people fishing at a pier.

01:31:26.000 It is so real, it's so satisfying, I want to just defend it.

01:31:29.000 I mean, do you know what I'm saying?

01:31:31.000 I know.

01:31:32.000 I'm embarrassed that I didn't say it before you did.

01:31:35.000 There's so much sadness in this moment, watching all these things you love be destroyed.

01:31:41.000 I'm almost over that, actually.

01:31:43.000 I've accepted it.

01:31:44.000 But what I didn't mention, and shame on me for not, is the upside of the moment, which is the people.

01:31:50.000 I mean, you wind up meeting these people in so many cases.

01:31:53.000 I had dinner last night or two nights ago in my barn with somebody, a well-known person, who I never in a million years thought I would ever have a meal with.

01:32:00.000 And it turns out we had everything in common.

01:32:02.000 And this is one of the people you described, an awake person who was not where he expected to be, reached conclusions he never thought he would reach.

01:32:09.000 He's got opinions that were repugnant to him 10 years ago, as do I. And how beautiful is that?

01:32:15.000 Because people like that are liberated from the burden of having to pretend they don't.

01:32:22.000 It's a huge burden to lie.

01:32:23.000 It's a massive.

01:32:24.000 I mean, all of us lie, you know, and if you caught me doing something terrible today, I probably would lie, you know, but it would be a huge burden.

01:32:31.000 And once you feel like, well, I don't have to do that anymore.

01:32:33.000 Like there's no reason to do that.

01:32:34.000 Why would I do that?

01:32:36.000 And I'm just not going to.

01:32:37.000 Oh, you're just you're just freer.

01:32:38.000 Like that is actual liberation.

01:32:41.000 And that's why occasionally you meet people.

01:32:43.000 I have met people in my life who've been in prison, for example, like actual prison locked away who are so free inside.

01:32:51.000 I'm very anti-prison.

01:32:53.000 For the record, I'm not encouraging prison.

01:32:55.000 I hate prison, actually.

01:32:56.000 But it is also true, and because I've seen known these people, that it's possible to lock a man in a concrete room with no windows and He can be free anyway inside, because it is an internal thing, actually.

01:33:10.000 And when you meet someone who has reached that or is in the process of reaching it, it's just thrilling.

01:33:17.000 You just want to be around people like that.

01:33:18.000 So the bottom line is my friendships are so much deeper now than they were 10 years ago.

01:33:25.000 It's like no comparison.

01:33:26.000 Like I have conversations every single day with people that are so deep And rewarding for me, that make me feel so good, so connected to another person, which is the whole purpose of life, break the veil, connect.

01:33:39.000 I mean, that's what sex is, you know, connect with someone.

01:33:42.000 But to do that just in conversation with people is thrilling.

01:33:47.000 And it happens many times more often now than it did 10 years ago.

01:33:51.000 10 years ago, once a month, I'd be like, wow, I met this amazing person.

01:33:53.000 I was about to say, I swear to God, we're simpatico.

01:33:56.000 I was gonna say 10 years ago, it happened like once a month.

01:33:59.000 Now it's all day long.

01:34:01.000 Yes!

01:34:02.000 I have the same thing!

01:34:03.000 Like, what is that?

01:34:04.000 I don't know, but... By the way, I don't need to know.

01:34:07.000 I mean, I have lots of theories about it.

01:34:09.000 The, you know, the gathering of, you know, the sorting of society.

01:34:12.000 I mean, clearly that is happening.

01:34:13.000 But I don't even need to know.

01:34:15.000 I'm just enjoying it.

01:34:16.000 It's almost like...

01:34:17.000 You know, it's almost like I get into bed at night and I've got two dogs under my arms and it's like, I don't think a lot about what that means.

01:34:23.000 I'm just like, I'm so happy!

01:34:26.000 It's like, it's just a, it's a, it's a gut level animal joy that I experience when I really connect with someone in a real way.

01:34:33.000 I, I think that is one of the main reasons that we're on this earth to do that.

01:34:37.000 Well dogs are so honest, and I said this to my parents like 30 years ago, I said dogs are like a psychic buffer.

01:34:42.000 They're even more psychic than us, but they don't even have a mission except to love you and be part of the group, and it's unconditional love.

01:34:48.000 I mean you feel the love of a dog that loves you.

01:34:51.000 People that have really mean dogs, I go to their house and say, why does my dog suddenly love you?

01:34:54.000 I say, well I like him, I like her.

01:34:56.000 She says, well in a few minutes, 10 minutes we have left Tucker.

01:34:59.000 I think it's clear that we're at a major crossroads and inflection point, the biggest in human civilization that we know of.

01:35:06.000 Maybe stuff happened before.

01:35:07.000 We know our mainline history isn't true.

01:35:08.000 And you talk about that.

01:35:11.000 So speak about where you think we are in history, and then you've talked about the Nephilim that are in the Bible.

01:35:17.000 And you're just, and I know the globalists, I know some of the elites, they're obsessed.

01:35:20.000 You know, that's what the movie Prometheus is, is what they really believe.

01:35:23.000 None of them are really atheists at the top.

01:35:25.000 They believe that aliens put us here, that they're about to learn the secrets and become gods, but first they've got to do the sacrifice and survival of the fittest.

01:35:33.000 But you get criticized for that.

01:35:34.000 We have all these UAVs that are doing, you know, Mach 100 and, you know, turning on perfect lines that, you know, none of our machines can do.

01:35:41.000 There's a lot going on here.

01:35:43.000 are just the infinite. To me, admitting there's an infinite makes these globalists even smaller when they try to have their big events and all their big fanfare and the trumpets playing.

01:35:52.000 They want us to believe they're everything, they're really nothing. So I've said a lot there but we're at a crossroads and you talk about what's in the Bible and the Sumerian

01:36:02.000 text and all these other ancient texts around the world say the exact same thing and I don't think they want us understanding that but it's like they've gotten some order by some

01:36:10.000 other group. The Bible says the devil's marooned here, wants to kill us, kill, steal and destroy until we actually carry out the real mission and what we're about to do like a caterpillar

01:36:22.000 in a cocoon about to come out and be a butterfly.

01:36:25.000 [BLANK_AUDIO]

01:36:28.000 Well, I hope that's right.

01:36:29.000 I mean, it does feel like we're moving toward, you know, toward some resolution of a long-standing problem.

01:36:36.000 But, you know, that may not be the case.

01:36:37.000 You can't... Why?

01:36:38.000 Well, let me just say, parenthetically, I adamantly agree with your point that our understanding of history is not supported by the archaeological or geologic record, okay?

01:36:49.000 It's just fake.

01:36:51.000 I'm not sure what the truth is, but clearly the story we were told is not true.

01:36:55.000 so there's that. By the way, interrupt real quick. Did you know the WEF is running around the world suppressing hundreds of archaeological digs with the UN right now, where they're now saying the

01:37:03.000 environmental thing to do is not dig up this. You just said it, but why don't they want this dug up? I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead. No, I didn't know that,

01:37:12.000 but that's absolutely perfect. There has been...

01:37:15.000 It just tells you a lot.

01:37:17.000 There's been an extraordinary effort on the part of various authorities over the last hundred or so years to suppress and distort archaeology.

01:37:27.000 And now DNA testing.

01:37:28.000 And I find that really interesting.

01:37:30.000 Why do they care, actually?

01:37:31.000 Why would you care what we learn about the world two or three thousand, five thousand years ago?

01:37:37.000 Why is that a threat to you?

01:37:38.000 But it is.

01:37:40.000 In the same sense that all government propaganda about UAPs, UFOs, has one point, and that's to deny the existence of the supernatural.

01:37:48.000 Well, why is that?

01:37:50.000 You know, that's the message.

01:37:52.000 If there's one message from the propaganda from the various federal agencies and journalism companies involved in lying about UAPs, it's the supernatural is not real.

01:38:02.000 Why do they want us to believe that?

01:38:04.000 I don't know.

01:38:06.000 But it's very revealing.

01:38:08.000 The lies themselves are always the key to the truth.

01:38:11.000 Like, what do all of their lies have in common?

01:38:14.000 What's the message here?

01:38:15.000 What do they want me to believe?

01:38:17.000 And you're probably not going to go broke betting on the opposite being true, I would say.

01:38:22.000 But as for where we are in history, it's unknowable.

01:38:24.000 And if you're a Christian, you will notice.

01:38:27.000 In all the prophetic apocalyptic writings in the Bible, which I've read, there is consistently a warning to people reading these, like, you don't know, actually.

01:38:37.000 And the end of history comes, I think I'm quoting, like a thief in the night.

01:38:40.000 Like, you don't know.

01:38:40.000 If you knew, like, you'd have probably a different response.

01:38:42.000 So, I think it's important to go into this question, as all questions, with the knowledge of your limitations.

01:38:49.000 You know, like, you're probably not going to figure out when the end of history is coming.

01:38:52.000 But, clearly, We're in the middle of a pivot, like clearly.

01:38:57.000 And clearly the stakes are bigger than like who runs the executive branch of government, like way bigger than that.

01:39:03.000 They're the future of the world.

01:39:05.000 The last thing I will say is I think it's really important to understand what they hate.

01:39:10.000 Most of all, they hate a lot of different things.

01:39:12.000 They hate working class whites. 0.87

01:39:14.000 They hate tobacco.

01:39:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:16.000 They hate testosterone.

01:39:18.000 They have a lot of hates.

01:39:19.000 These are hateful people.

01:39:20.000 They're haters.

01:39:21.000 But the thing they hate most, above all else, is Christianity.

01:39:25.000 Not all religions, Christianity. 1.00

01:39:27.000 That's what they hate.

01:39:28.000 But why is that, exactly?

01:39:30.000 Why is Christianity, which is the world's only non-violent religion, like, really?

01:39:35.000 It's certainly, it's the world's biggest religion, and it is officially non-violent.

01:39:39.000 Turn the other cheek.

01:39:40.000 Someone takes your cloak, give them your shirt. 0.99

01:39:44.000 That's the religion.

01:39:45.000 It's the religion of peace.

01:39:47.000 That's the threat?

01:39:48.000 Why is that?

01:39:49.000 In other words, if I'm a Buddhist or a Hindu or a Zoroastrian, it doesn't matter what my religion is, and I'm running a country, I want a country full of Christians.

01:40:00.000 Because they're civic-minded.

01:40:02.000 I know for a fact they're not going to foment bloody revolution against me because their religion tells them not to.

01:40:07.000 They're peaceful, they're hard-working, they stay married, like they're not out doing crazy things.

01:40:12.000 I want Christians.

01:40:13.000 That would be the logical, obviously the logical conclusion, right?

01:40:16.000 Because they're just And why would you be against that?

01:40:20.000 Why would you be against that?

01:40:21.000 Not just against it.

01:40:22.000 It's the thing that they hate most.

01:40:24.000 It's the thing they're most threatened by.

01:40:26.000 It's the thing that they seek to destroy.

01:40:28.000 And you have to just ask, like, why?

01:40:30.000 That's not rational.

01:40:31.000 There's no sort of policy goal that's served by opposing Christianity.

01:40:35.000 There's only a spiritual goal that is served by opposing Christianity. 0.91

01:40:39.000 Alright, in closing, you're the master at ever plugging all the great things you're doing.

01:40:43.000 Your show, your network, the great lab of industry.

01:40:46.000 We're going to do that in a moment, but since we bring this up, Elon Musk.

01:40:49.000 I judge a tree by its fruits, as Christ said, and Musk is involved in all the big high-tech things that could have Trojan horses and issues, but I see him pivoting.

01:40:58.000 From being, you know, moderately globalist to at the World Government Forum last year saying world government's bad, it's tyranny, we're against it.

01:41:05.000 I see him boosting free speech.

01:41:07.000 I see him attacked by all these governments from Australia to Brazil to the EU, trying to arrest him.

01:41:12.000 And I see him reaching hundreds, the only thing bigger than Tucker Carlson, it kind of goes, well, it doesn't kind of go, it goes, it goes Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and then like Alex Jones, bunch of people, which is great.

01:41:21.000 I don't want to be number one.

01:41:22.000 I love seeing people more articulate than me.

01:41:23.000 And you know, that's, that means we're winning.

01:41:25.000 But, but, but you're like right below Elon Musk.

01:41:28.000 You're the most, It's true.

01:41:29.000 The second most influential person in the world in thought today, even above Joe Rogan, it's not a contest, it's just you have to recognize it, is Tucker Carlson with all the choices you've made, the things you've done.

01:41:39.000 You're a humble man, that's why God's given you this power.

01:41:42.000 But we're there.

01:41:43.000 Elon Musk, because I cannot bitch at a gift horse. 1.00

01:41:46.000 I cannot look at somebody where I'm reaching 10, 15 million people a day on X and I'm not being censored and the real me can be seen and they're like, well, he's doing this, he's doing that.

01:41:54.000 But you know Elon, give us a few minutes on Elon Musk.

01:41:58.000 Because I think he needs to be protected and defended.

01:42:00.000 He's in a lot of danger.

01:42:01.000 He's really stuck his neck out there and I think we're idiots if we don't back him.

01:42:08.000 Well, I think the first thing you said is the truest thing.

01:42:11.000 Judge a tree by its fruits.

01:42:13.000 You know?

01:42:13.000 Anyone who's not against me is for me.

01:42:15.000 And look, I kind of gave up.

01:42:18.000 Here I've been talking about motives and what motivates people.

01:42:20.000 The truth is it's pretty hard to know.

01:42:22.000 I don't even understand my own motives a lot of the time.

01:42:24.000 I act on instinct.

01:42:25.000 Action matters!

01:42:26.000 Action matters!

01:42:28.000 My grandfather used to tell my dad, I don't want to hear talk, I want to see action.

01:42:33.000 Well, and if I'm trying to judge someone, I judge him by his actions.

01:42:36.000 Stop telling me you're a great person.

01:42:38.000 Show me whom you've helped.

01:42:40.000 Like, it's kind of that simple for me.

01:42:42.000 And I think Elon has done an extraordinary thing by opening up X to, you know, greater speech, freer speech.

01:42:51.000 I mean, it's just extraordinary.

01:42:52.000 It's extraordinary.

01:42:53.000 And you notice it immediately in the downstream effects are super obvious.

01:42:57.000 People are less afraid to say what they think is true, as compared to last year, certainly as compared to three years ago, when people literally couldn't even ask.

01:43:06.000 Like, how?

01:43:08.000 I mean, I have a friend who's injured by the vax.

01:43:10.000 I'm afraid to say that?

01:43:11.000 Really?

01:43:11.000 A medicine that you forced me to take hurt me, and I'm too afraid to say that out loud?

01:43:18.000 Like, that's a crazy level of fear.

01:43:21.000 And I feel like that has really evaporated.

01:43:24.000 And I think Elon Musk is the main reason.

01:43:26.000 Opening up X for people to, you know, have unauthorized thoughts like that, it just frees everybody.

01:43:33.000 It's revolutionary.

01:43:33.000 It's an inspiration.

01:43:34.000 In the same way the United States was an inspiration to the world for a hundred years, post-World War I, because we had liberal democracy and market capitalism and it seemed to kind of work.

01:43:43.000 And everyone's like, oh yeah, I don't want to just buy the Coca-Cola and the Levi's.

01:43:47.000 I want the system that produced the Coca-Cola and the Levi's.

01:43:50.000 We didn't even need a State Department or a USIA to make that case.

01:43:53.000 People just watched and they're like, yeah, that works.

01:43:55.000 I want it.

01:43:56.000 And I think that freedom of speech and creativity are exactly the same.

01:44:01.000 You know, I don't want to hear a lecture about creativity.

01:44:04.000 If I look at you and I'm like, that person is a free thinker who's creative and that's joyful and productive and great.

01:44:10.000 In fact, it's holy, which it is.

01:44:13.000 Then I want some of that.

01:44:14.000 It inspires me.

01:44:15.000 It gives me heart, courage.

01:44:18.000 Yeah.

01:44:19.000 Well, in closing, talking about Elon, he's putting out the actuaries and numbers about the collapse of the Western world, people not having children.

01:44:26.000 The globalists are the opposite.

01:44:27.000 They're saying, "Humans are over.

01:44:28.000 There's no human future."

01:44:29.000 You all know Harari, Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates.

01:44:32.000 He is directly saying to them, "You're going to destroy civilization and you're going to destroy yourself in the process.

01:44:37.000 We must stop you." 0.98

01:44:38.000 He has, whatever reason he did it, he's made the decision to pivot to pro-humanity.

01:44:43.000 He agreed with me.

01:44:44.000 I said, "We should call this Team Humanity."

01:44:45.000 He said, "Yeah, let's call this Team Humanity," and interviewed with him.

01:44:49.000 That is so profound.

01:44:50.000 That is so powerful.

01:44:51.000 Tugger, I know you've been very gracious.

01:44:53.000 You've got more to do today.

01:44:54.000 You've given us an hour and a half.

01:44:56.000 In closing, because you're...

01:44:58.000 You're the master of everything except promoting the great work you're doing.

01:45:01.000 And I think if you got behind promoting yourself, and I'm not criticizing, you'd be even bigger.

01:45:05.000 Tell us about your show.

01:45:06.000 Tell us about your TuckerCarlson.com.

01:45:07.000 Tell us about the speaking tour, because these are like mini Trump rallies, which are going to be bigger than his in many cases.

01:45:15.000 Because they're trying to put him in jail.

01:45:16.000 He could be in jail coming up in September and October and November when you've got this big tour.

01:45:22.000 I know you're adding dates all the time and I'm going to be involved in some.

01:45:25.000 Well, we'll just leave it at that.

01:45:26.000 I'm so honored to be there.

01:45:27.000 But these are important free speech rituals that the enemy is so upset about.

01:45:31.000 So please tell us a few minutes about everything.

01:45:34.000 Tucker Carlson, the Tucker Carlson Network, and now everybody needs to not just say, oh, Tucker's so big, he's got to handle it.

01:45:39.000 No, we need to magnify what you're doing.

01:45:43.000 I said sure I'd be happy to, but actually it pains me.

01:45:45.000 Can I say one thing about... Yeah, why won't you talk about yourself?

01:45:48.000 Go ahead, go ahead.

01:45:50.000 I will, I will, I will.

01:45:51.000 Because I'm a wasp, I hate this.

01:45:52.000 It's like getting a prostate exam for me.

01:45:56.000 Let me just say that that's kind of the nub of everything, Elon's point about birth rates, because it is once again a binary.

01:46:05.000 You're either the sort of person who dreams about killing Extinguishing life?

01:46:10.000 Or the kind of person who dreams about creating life?

01:46:12.000 I mean, it's really a very simple choice.

01:46:15.000 And if you're not reproducing, then you're dying.

01:46:20.000 And the idea of embracing that is so unnatural, so grotesque.

01:46:24.000 I mean, there's nothing greater.

01:46:25.000 Everyone's supposedly obsessed with sex.

01:46:26.000 Well, what is sex?

01:46:27.000 It's the beginning of the creation of life.

01:46:29.000 That's why we're driven to do it.

01:46:31.000 Because there's nothing greater, there's nothing more fulfilling, there's nothing more inherently meaningful than creating life or being present when God creates it

01:46:38.000 through the act of sex like it's the greatest thing that there is and then children of course

01:46:43.000 are part of you there's no greater achievement than having children there's no more enduring joy than having

01:46:47.000 it's beyond magic you and the woman you love have great pleasure and interface and then merge your genetics to create this wonderful new creature

01:46:55.000 that is the this it's freaking everything I mean God is there you see the perfection

01:46:59.000 believable yes exactly God is there.

01:47:02.000 So, you know, you find people who don't have a chance to have children or don't realize its importance until it's too late.

01:47:08.000 I mean, that's always the case.

01:47:10.000 Or the society is, you know, having problems.

01:47:11.000 And the left's so mad they don't have kids, they want to take it away from us.

01:47:14.000 Notice, those that don't have kids form the core of the globalist death cult because they're pissed they didn't have it, they want to take it away.

01:47:21.000 But they're literally, it's more than just like some people don't have kids, it's like they're promoting not having kids.

01:47:27.000 By promoting, you know, the LBGTQ three-spirit agenda, of course, that's what that is. 0.82

01:47:34.000 It's not about tolerating people who are different, which almost every American is just instinctively happy to do, very much including me.

01:47:40.000 No, it's promoting childlessness.

01:47:42.000 It's the end of family, the end of children, the end of reproduction, the end of humanity.

01:47:47.000 It's anti-life.

01:47:48.000 And the opposite of that is pro-life, not just opposing abortion, which you should do because it's killing. 0.93

01:47:54.000 But more broadly, I'm for reproduction.

01:47:56.000 I'm for babies.

01:47:57.000 And I just think it's kind of that clear.

01:48:00.000 And if you find yourself on the side that's against people, against babies, against reproducing, against reproductive sex, against joy, human connection, like you're on the wrong side, actually.

01:48:11.000 And there's sort of no arguing it.

01:48:13.000 Okay, I'll stop.

01:48:14.000 As to what I'm doing, everything to me is about getting What I believe out there, disseminating a message, what I think is true, if it's false, of course I'll correct, which I have many times.

01:48:27.000 It's like I have a monopoly on truth, but I really believe what I say, and I want people to hear it, if they want to.

01:48:32.000 I want them to have the chance to do that.

01:48:34.000 So censorship is the single biggest obstacle, not simply to my job, but to human freedom and flourishing.

01:48:42.000 I really believe that.

01:48:44.000 So everything we do is designed to get around the censors.

01:48:48.000 Watching what's happening to you right now actually affects my sleep, because I think it's the worst thing.

01:48:53.000 It's the beginning of enslavement of our country.

01:48:57.000 So anyway, I've done two things to get around censorship.

01:48:59.000 One is to build a subscription service that is not dependent on advertising.

01:49:03.000 It's TuckerCarlson.com.

01:49:05.000 You subscribe and So our audience pays, not very much, but they pay for what they get.

01:49:11.000 They support our business, so we cannot have the legs kicked out from under us by some advertiser.

01:49:16.000 Toyota can't call up and be like, oh my gosh, you questioned January 6th, we're pulling our ads!

01:49:21.000 And then you have to fire everybody.

01:49:22.000 I've lived in that world for 30 years, I'm never doing that again.

01:49:24.000 So it gives you total independence, and they're like missionaries backing you, like families of fun missionaries to go out and then reach hundreds of millions of people.

01:49:32.000 Exactly.

01:49:33.000 That's exactly what it's like, though.

01:49:35.000 I don't, you know, I'm not going to redeem anyone's soul, but I'm going to try to tell the truth my absolute hardest no matter what.

01:49:40.000 Okay, so there's that.

01:49:41.000 Second thing we're doing this fall is taking it on the road in live events.

01:49:47.000 You can't, you know, Google has no control over a stadium speech.

01:49:52.000 You don't, they can't rearrange the search results when you're speaking live on stage to people who paid a ticket to be there.

01:49:58.000 Now, you do have problems with venues that come under enormous pressure.

01:50:03.000 CNN is trying to shut down this tour, which is crazy.

01:50:06.000 When I worked at CNN 20 years ago, 25 years ago, it was a, pretended to be a news organization.

01:50:11.000 They weren't in the business of preventing people from getting information, but now, of course, that's their only mission.

01:50:18.000 But anyway, I don't think it's going to work.

01:50:20.000 And by the way, if every single venue pulls out because CNN demands it because I questioned the VAX or something, then we'll just do it in a field with loudspeakers.

01:50:30.000 I'm doing it.

01:50:31.000 I love it.

01:50:32.000 I mean it.

01:50:32.000 I mean it, too.

01:50:33.000 If we have to get a tent or stand in the rain and yell, I will do it.

01:50:38.000 And we're doing it from California To the East Coast, from New York to California and everywhere in between the entire month of September, probably some of October.

01:50:46.000 We got 15 dates, probably doing more.

01:50:48.000 The tickets of all the pre-sales are gone.

01:50:50.000 I think they go on sale tomorrow-ish.

01:50:54.000 But sales are great, so I think we're going to add more.

01:50:56.000 And every city, you know, bring someone, including you.

01:51:01.000 I'm grateful that you're doing it.

01:51:03.000 Russell Brand.

01:51:03.000 You know, every people who you know and take seriously and love, in some cases, will be coming up on stage at every event.

01:51:12.000 And I think it's going to be amazing.

01:51:13.000 And last thing I'll say, and I will stop now because I can't stop talking once I get going, is I want to see America.

01:51:19.000 Like, I'm from here.

01:51:21.000 I grew up here.

01:51:22.000 I was born here.

01:51:22.000 I'm never leaving here.

01:51:23.000 It's the only passport I have.

01:51:24.000 And I think the physical country matters.

01:51:27.000 I don't like all this America is an idea.

01:51:29.000 Really?

01:51:29.000 No.

01:51:30.000 Ideas can be changed in a generation.

01:51:33.000 You know what can't be changed in a generation?

01:51:35.000 The Rocky Mountains, the Great Plains, the forests of northern New England.

01:51:39.000 I want to see the country Oh, the globalists are at war with rural people and the forgotten people, and they love you.

01:51:45.000 I love the fact that, because they're desperate to shut this down, because this is going to be like a whole other Trump campaign, but with an even, I'm not putting Trump down, an even better speaker.

01:51:54.000 And hey, I'm so blessed to be involved in the dates, anything you want.

01:51:57.000 Your crew's like, oh, thanks for agreeing to come.

01:51:59.000 I'm like, thanks for agreeing?

01:52:03.000 It's going to be so fun!

01:52:05.000 It's going to be so fun, and then you get... I mean, everyone always talks about America, America, America.

01:52:09.000 Well, let's go see America.

01:52:11.000 I'm serious.

01:52:12.000 Like, let's go to 20 states and see how people are doing.

01:52:14.000 Like, what does it look like?

01:52:15.000 You know, that matters to me.

01:52:17.000 Physical reality matters to me.

01:52:18.000 It's why I love nature.

01:52:19.000 It's why I love animals.

01:52:20.000 It's why I love my wife. 0.96

01:52:21.000 These aren't ideas.

01:52:22.000 These are things.

01:52:23.000 These are living things.

01:52:25.000 And I want to see the living thing that is America and the 350 million people who live here.

01:52:29.000 I want to know.

01:52:30.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:52:31.000 I don't like... I'm sick of all the theories.

01:52:33.000 I want to smell the reality.

01:52:36.000 Exactly.

01:52:37.000 Not just smell the coffee.

01:52:38.000 Smell the reality.

01:52:38.000 Tucker, thank you for the time.

01:52:40.000 We love you.

01:52:41.000 We appreciate it.

01:52:42.000 Can't wait to see you on the road.

01:52:43.000 We'll be watching you.

01:52:43.000 We're trying to stop World War III.

01:52:45.000 Thank you so much and God bless you for the time.

01:52:49.000 God bless.

01:52:50.000 Thank you.

01:52:50.000 Good luck, man.

01:52:51.000 Don't hang up, Tucker.

01:52:52.000 After this is over, I want to say bye to you.

01:52:53.000 Folks, incredible interview.

01:52:55.000 Share it everywhere.

01:52:55.000 Go get your tickets now.

01:52:57.000 It's already selling out.

01:52:58.000 This is so exciting.

01:52:59.000 We'll be right back.

01:53:00.000 stay with us HSBC and and JP Morgan chase

01:53:15.000 So you look at what do they do?

01:53:18.000 What are they the biggest banks in the world of?

01:53:21.000 Those two are number one and number two largest short sellers of silver on the planet.

01:53:28.000 Those two banks.

01:53:29.000 And now we're starting to see a short squeeze happening in silver.

01:53:34.000 But we had 568 million ounces of silver being shorted, naked shorts.

01:53:42.000 Meaning they don't own the assets.

01:53:44.000 They just put these futures contracts on them to shorts to drive the price down.

01:53:49.000 Well, when you have a short position and the value of the underlying thing that you're shorting goes up, Alex, you lose money hand over fist in multiples, not dollar for dollar, but multiples.

01:54:04.000 The day before Iran basically sent those drones into Israel, China made this announcement, said, hey, everybody in China, start buying silver.

01:54:18.000 Don't just buy gold.

01:54:19.000 Buy silver.

01:54:20.000 You made the point that China was trying to call the naked shorts of the Western Central Banks.

01:54:26.000 Look at what's happened to silver since that time.

01:54:29.000 Skyrocketing!

01:54:31.000 You've got low supply, you've got high demand, you've got a short squeeze starting where the manufacturers of the world, the defense contractors, the aerospace industry, the fuel cell technology people, the solar people, they all need silver and there's not much available because India has already committed to 66% of the world's supply this year.

01:54:52.000 So here's where we've got this short squeeze happening.

01:54:55.000 Physical supply coming out of inventory.

01:54:58.000 Not available for the manufacturers to purchase.

01:55:02.000 And what has happened to the price of silver in the last two and a half months?

01:55:08.000 Literally, the last 75 days or so, silver's gone from 22 and a half to almost 32.

01:55:15.000 It's up like 45% in two and a half months.

01:55:20.000 And you've got those Western banks that have millions, hundreds of trillions of ounces of silver short.

01:55:27.000 And the price went up 45%.

01:55:29.000 They are losing money hand over fist.

01:55:32.000 So part of me says this kind of being on the wrong side of a price move when it's leveraged could cause HSBC and JP Morgan Chase to have a really, really, really big financial problem.

01:55:47.000 And their CEOs are jumping ship.

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01:57:16.000 Unfiltered interview happens now!

01:57:20.000 Right here on the Alex Jones Show!

01:57:26.000 InfoWars.

01:57:27.000 Tomorrow's news.

01:57:28.000 Today.

01:57:29.000 Well, I'm very excited about this interview, and so is my wife.

01:57:41.000 Everybody loves Russell Brand.

01:57:43.000 So we've got 45 minutes, we're doing his show after we just aired the Tucker Carlson mega insane bombshell and the dessert is Russell Brand.

01:57:53.000 Two great titans of liberty, really authentic, real people reaching tens of millions of people a day.

01:57:58.000 So Russell, the time we have, I like to talk.

01:58:01.000 I'm going to really try to let you talk this time instead of me talking about the state of the world right now, the censorship, the attacks, World War III, how we turn this around,

01:58:11.000 the Great Awakening.

01:58:12.000 I mean, it's so paradoxical.

01:58:14.000 All the top talk show hosts in the world now are anti-globalist pro-human, which is simple.

01:58:19.000 Humans want freedom.

01:58:20.000 That's not rocket science.

01:58:23.000 And you've got Elon Musk and just everything.

01:58:25.000 So up there in the panopticon, you know, in the constellations of leaders fighting tyranny, it's Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan and Russell Brand and Elon Musk up there as the North Star.

01:58:35.000 Say what you want, but the proof's in the pudding.

01:58:37.000 This is an amazing time.

01:58:39.000 So thanks for being here.

01:58:40.000 I want you to have the floor as much as possible because I love to talk.

01:58:43.000 And just first of all, you say, how would you describe your life's journey and then where we are today?

01:58:52.000 First part of life is about trying to escape from the conditions of birth, recognising that there are material restrictions, and then feeling that maybe social and cultural roots will provide a solution.

01:59:07.000 You know, maybe if I become a star, if I have material means, if I can get myself To Hollywood, if I can become a stand-up comedian.

01:59:15.000 If those things play out for me, maybe I'll be okay.

01:59:17.000 But all the while, as a drug addict, first of all, and then a recovering drug addict, recognizing there has to be a greater spiritual solution.

01:59:24.000 And because I'm a drug addict and recovering, because I'm from an ordinary background, they're in the UK.

01:59:30.000 Recognizing that there seem to be these systems of authority and control that you have to navigate and negotiate and deal with even if these are simple little things like school and law and order and that they claim moral and ethical supremacy but you see that perhaps they're being controlled by other ulterior or somehow transcendent systems.

01:59:52.000 Then you know for a minute the hedonism is enough, the drugs are enough, Promiscuity and the access to favours and delights and pleasures and distractions and prestige are enough.

02:00:02.000 But because of that sort of spiritual yearning that any recovering drug addict or alcoholic will know, any seeker will know, there's a kind of sense that this is not it.

02:00:12.000 This was never it.

02:00:13.000 Of course, success, personal individual success is never going to be enough.

02:00:17.000 All the while amidst this, I'm still occupying peripheral spaces as a person in recovery.

02:00:23.000 I'm still educating myself with People like you and David Icke, listening to renegade voices, reading esoteric books, looking at credible academic sources, as well as people like you that suffer smears and condemnation and attacks that aren't perfect, that make mistakes, don't we all, damn it, and starting to aggregate and accumulate and curate my own purview that's like, hey, there's some sort of

02:00:50.000 There's a radical movement available.

02:00:53.000 There's a radical movement available if you're brave enough to participate.

02:00:57.000 I held up Bill Hicks' book for a moment while you were talking, not just because of the ongoing conspiracy theories that you are the risen ghost of Bill Hicks, but because he's such a great American voice, such a brilliant comedian, such an important and vital radical, such a brilliant evangelist and preacher.

02:01:14.000 So first, Poverty.

02:01:16.000 Second, infatuation with materialism.

02:01:19.000 And finally, ultimately, very slowly, like the dumb person I surely must be, the recognition, acknowledgement and awakening to the fact that if you are not able to tackle personal attachment, personal egotism, personal longing, then you cannot be a servant of the many available causes.

02:01:39.000 But the one ultimate cause, our Our vital fight for free speech, our vital fight for personal sovereignty, our vital fight to be able to create a marketplace of ideas that isn't brokered by bureaucratic forces that claim that they're there to help you, that ultimately seem to be there to control you.

02:01:58.000 Thank you for the great work that you have done, Alex Jones, and the personal price that you have paid in ensuring that these spaces continue to exist.

02:02:06.000 Waging war on corruption in the United States of America.

02:02:14.000 It's Alex Jones, coming to you live from the front lines of the InfoWars.

02:02:20.000 Russell, what I think you say is key.

02:02:21.000 You've come from nowhere but a top Hollywood star, huge comedian and everything, and now you've been turning for years against it.

02:02:28.000 That's a message to people that feel like they can not only get success in the system, I think what I'm getting at is you're saying the system is broken and it's gone and now it's the exodus out of the system and there's that kind of wild, you know, move away from it.

02:02:41.000 But I think it's that process, though it's helter-skelter, that's going to take us to the next level.

02:02:47.000 That's right.

02:02:47.000 The system will ultimately choke you.

02:02:49.000 The system will only favour you or adorn you and celebrate you as long as it can utilise and exploit you.

02:02:58.000 For a moment, it's easy.

02:03:00.000 Any person with an ego will think, wow, my success is based on the fact that I'm fantastic in some way.

02:03:06.000 But it was a friend of mine who said that when you see yourself on a billboard on Sunset Boulevard promoting a movie and you see your name up in lights, you think for a moment you must be some real hot shit.

02:03:17.000 Then you realize it's just the inadvertent side effect of someone else making money from you.

02:03:23.000 You can temporarily be deployed as a unit or as a useful idiot or pick a term as someone that's useful to a particular agenda and particular set of objectives.

02:03:34.000 Now that we have the ability to communicate and expose and convey counter-narratives, it's getting harder and harder for them to centralize control as more and more diffuse Systems of communication become available.

02:03:49.000 The natural tendency is towards individual freedom and community freedom.

02:03:54.000 The new elites don't know how to tackle and control this yet, so they're inventing new laws around censorship, new ability to surveil, new bureaucratic means to shut people down and control them, because the flow of power is towards maximum freedom.

02:04:10.000 Freedom is our natural environment.

02:04:14.000 With personal freedom and respect for the freedom of others, you don't need the amount of bureaucratic intervention.

02:04:21.000 It seems to me that what we're living through now, as all of us begin to recognise that you can't trust the media, you can't trust the judiciary, you cannot trust the state, you cannot trust the big corporations nor the bodies that are supposed to regulate them.

02:04:34.000 You cannot trust the law itself because it is not derived from holy principles.

02:04:38.000 It is derived from materialistic endeavor and a desire to control and subjugate.

02:04:44.000 As people realize this, as people communicate, you know, any one of the voices that you've listed now, people will say, oh Jordan Peterson, he's controlled opposition.

02:04:52.000 Alex Jones is controlled opposition.

02:04:54.000 Russell Brand is controlled opposition.

02:04:56.000 Tucker's controlled opposition.

02:04:58.000 Sooner or later we're going to have to recognise that there are new and unique alliances potentially emerging that collectively can oppose a significant centralised threat when it comes to the control of information, but a threat that is being countenanced, is being opposed.

02:05:14.000 We are pushing back.

02:05:16.000 No, you just hit the devil in the head.

02:05:17.000 I know I'm real, and I'm honored to be compared to Bill Hicks, but I have nothing to do with Bill Hicks.

02:05:25.000 I'm honored, but you're absolutely right.

02:05:27.000 People don't believe in victory because they've been demoralized.

02:05:31.000 The fact that freedom is so popular, like take Elon Musk.

02:05:34.000 Headline, Elon Musk had sex with an employee consensually.

02:05:38.000 Who cares?

02:05:39.000 Did he launch a war and kill 10 million people?

02:05:41.000 Did he start World War III?

02:05:43.000 Did he put HIV and Hepatitis in the Bayer Factor VIII product?

02:05:46.000 No, he didn't.

02:05:47.000 Who cares if Elon Musk had a consensual relationship with an employee and said, I want to have a baby with you?

02:05:53.000 I mean, it's like a beautiful story.

02:05:55.000 Oh my God, he's not married.

02:05:56.000 He has sex with an employee and says, I want to marry him and have a baby. 0.87

02:05:59.000 Give the guy a freaking medal.

02:06:01.000 So the idea is they're attacking people that are following the basic human programming, like they tried on you to make you bow.

02:06:08.000 In the last six months, it was all made up, it was all a lie, but that's what they do and it shows how desperate they are.

02:06:14.000 You can have drag queen pedophile town with convicted pedophiles with kids sitting on their laps at libraries, that's fine. 0.88

02:06:19.000 You can have fentanyl hundreds of thousands of deaths.

02:06:21.000 You can have open borders, sex trafficking, that's all fine, but oh my god, women like Russell Brand or Elon Musk had a girlfriend consensually. 0.99

02:06:30.000 It's not working though.

02:06:31.000 It's not having an effect now.

02:06:35.000 Viva Frye, who's a fellow contributor on Rumble, yesterday gave me this great quote from a legal expert.

02:06:42.000 Show me the man and I'll show you the lawsuit. 0.87

02:06:46.000 And this makes so much sense to me.

02:06:48.000 Now, as a Christian, as a person that's pursuing a spiritual path, I can recognise that ethically and morally my selfish, promiscuous sexual conduct was reckless and foolish.

02:07:02.000 But God, at the time it was celebrated, it was certainly consensual.

02:07:07.000 People, like, the part of being a Hollywood star and a comedian who's announcing on stage, hey, if you want to have sex with me, come backstage, is that there are a lot of people, you know, in my case as a heterosexual man, women, that are well up for that.

02:07:21.000 It was unbelievable.

02:07:22.000 I grew up as a pudgy little chubby kid, a nervous, shy little boy in Gray's in Essex, full of doubt.

02:07:30.000 So suddenly to become a big star and have access to all that early in recovery from drugs and addiction is the most exciting thing in the world.

02:07:37.000 Pretty quickly, if you've got anything about you spiritually, you'll start to recognize, hmm, this isn't right, is it, to live like this?

02:07:45.000 And you'd already gotten exactly, I was the same way, not at your level, but up there.

02:07:49.000 It was empty.

02:07:50.000 I got a family, got married, it all stopped.

02:07:52.000 But the idea that you with consensual sex is a great crime, while the U.N.

02:07:56.000 running giant sex slavery, and Jeffrey Epstein, notice how they hold that up as, oh, Russell Brand and Alex Jones, and oh my God, You know, Trump cheated on his wife.

02:08:05.000 He's a devil.

02:08:06.000 Well, his wife didn't leave him.

02:08:07.000 They worked it out.

02:08:08.000 That's not a crime against humanity.

02:08:10.000 That's normal human behavior.

02:08:11.000 We could have done better.

02:08:13.000 But the idea that they hold us out as the devil is a fraud.

02:08:16.000 The real devil is starting World War III.

02:08:18.000 The real devil is putting poison shots in our arms.

02:08:20.000 It's not Russell Brand.

02:08:21.000 Women love him. 0.91

02:08:22.000 And he's just... I'm sorry, it's not a crime.

02:08:26.000 It's pretty extraordinary, but again to that quote, you know, show me the man and I'll show you the lawsuit.

02:08:32.000 If you've spent a long time having promiscuous sex with strangers, you're obviously creating a terrain of vulnerability.

02:08:41.000 And again, from a spiritual perspective, of Of course I should have done better as a man.

02:08:47.000 Of course my job here is to help people find their own way to connection.

02:08:52.000 And if not purity, then at least some kind of salvation.

02:08:55.000 At least I could be useful.

02:08:57.000 At least I could be here helping people.

02:08:58.000 And that's not how I was living.

02:09:00.000 I was living selfishly.

02:09:01.000 Yeah, but you didn't kill millions in Iraq cutting their food off, so you shouldn't apologize.

02:09:07.000 Well no, I did do that.

02:09:08.000 I claimed that there were weapons of mass destruction and then what I did is I marshaled the world's armies into a war that created a mass terrorist response.

02:09:18.000 And then that very same system that we use over there in Iraq, I deployed that domestically against the British population and the American population. 0.80

02:09:27.000 Then I created the Five Eyes movement where So that we could transgress national laws on surveillance and privacy.

02:09:35.000 I was able to make sure that Australia spied on British people and New Zealand spied on American people and we all exchanged the info.

02:09:42.000 Oh no, that wasn't me!

02:09:43.000 That's the systems of power that we're trying to oppose.

02:09:46.000 You know what I suppose I reject most strongly Alex, is the idea that these systems of dominion and damnation I don't care about people.

02:09:56.000 They're always saying like, you know, we have to protect you from misinformation.

02:09:59.000 We have to protect you from mal-information.

02:10:02.000 We have to protect you from Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson.

02:10:05.000 You have to protect you from Joe Rogan's gonna make you take the wrong medicine.

02:10:08.000 Tucker Carlson's gonna make you believe the wrong thing.

02:10:11.000 Alex Jones has erred in some way.

02:10:14.000 I don't believe that they care about ordinary people.

02:10:17.000 I believe they care about centralized authority and anyone that is a threat.

02:10:21.000 No matter how minor or how major, we'll be smeared, we'll be shut down, they will find a way to control you.

02:10:28.000 And I totally agree, and I'm not here lecturing you, I just watch your show, my wife watches it, we watch it every day it comes out, like 3 or 4 days a week we watch it.

02:10:36.000 And you're always apologizing.

02:10:38.000 You didn't do anything.

02:10:39.000 You're a famous movie star.

02:10:40.000 Women wanted you.

02:10:41.000 Let's move on.

02:10:42.000 You did not launch war crimes.

02:10:43.000 You did not lie about WMDs.

02:10:45.000 You did not kill millions of people.

02:10:46.000 I want to play this clip because I was the same way seven, eight years ago.

02:10:50.000 They would attack me and I'd try to be reasonable.

02:10:52.000 Yeah, I'm not perfect because we're not arrogant.

02:10:54.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:10:54.000 They would then use that against me.

02:10:55.000 Just move on.

02:10:56.000 They're the criminals.

02:10:57.000 Here's Madeleine Albright on 60 Minutes.

02:10:59.000 two years in the Clinton administration. They killed two million by the end of it, half of them kids. It was a million then, half of them kids. So she says, "I would do it again."

02:11:08.000 Here she is killing a half million children, cutting off food and medicine, and then Russell Brand is the bad guy. It's not about kissing Russell Brand's ass. Russell Brand

02:11:17.000 didn't kill anybody. Russell Brand's not bad. The globalists are bad. Here it is.

02:11:25.000 We have heard that a half a million children have died. That's more children than died in Hiroshima.

02:11:33.000 And, you know, is the price worth it?

02:11:38.000 I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it.

02:11:43.000 And she goes on to say she'd do it again.

02:11:45.000 So let's move on.

02:11:46.000 You didn't kill a million kids, a half million at the time.

02:11:49.000 So let's talk about the real guilty, Fauci.

02:11:53.000 The whole thing is collapsing.

02:11:54.000 All the studies, mass death, 35 million dead from the shots.

02:11:58.000 Where does Russell Brand, a smart guy, think this is all going?

02:12:01.000 Because the system is collapsing.

02:12:03.000 What do you think they're going to pull and what comes out of this?

02:12:07.000 Firstly, can I just ask you, do you think that it is 35 million people have died from various vaccine or gene therapy related injuries?

02:12:17.000 Do you think that's the number, Alex?

02:12:18.000 Yeah, the numbers only come out a year later, so they're always a year late.

02:12:23.000 That's how the insurance company actuaries work, so...

02:12:26.000 By 2022, it was 10 million.

02:12:28.000 By 2023, the number came from the year before 2022, it was 22 million.

02:12:32.000 And yeah, the new numbers are 35 million dead.

02:12:34.000 I mean, they admit 40% overall global all-cause mortality increase of death, 35 million.

02:12:41.000 So yeah, 35 million conservatively dead.

02:12:46.000 And you're basing that on, that's the number of excess deaths, there's no other explanation, there's been no other mass event, and with everything we're learning about turbo cancers and various heart conditions and various other neurological conditions and the observable impact on children and some of the reported yellow card events, this is a conservative... Yeah, but let's just change the subject, you were a rock star and had a bunch of women, that's what matters, let's just talk about that.

02:13:16.000 Yeah, I feel you, I feel you.

02:13:18.000 Alex, what I suppose is, what I feel like is, over time, incrementally, we are able to observe the position at the commencement of the pandemic, and we were able to observe where we are now.

02:13:33.000 The sort of slow release of information, oh okay, it was a lab leak, Okay, there was research that the EcoHealth Alliance were participating in.

02:13:44.000 Yes, the NIH were involved in that funding.

02:13:48.000 There were distinct batches.

02:13:51.000 There was investment from this group and that group.

02:13:53.000 This medication was patented.

02:13:56.000 Slowly, you start to realize, and this is a device I use on my show, is I say that we're closer to The Alex Jones prognosis than the BBC prognosis even by what's being acknowledged in legacy media outlets when it comes to the distinction from what they were saying at the beginning to what they're saying now.

02:14:17.000 So, plainly this was an extraordinary event.

02:14:20.000 I'd love to ask you, do you think it was a unique event in so much as that they were taking unique actions or was it unique because we were able...

02:14:29.000 Over a short time frame to see how these institutions work together.

02:14:35.000 Was it a unique event in terms of its scale or just our ability to observe?

02:14:40.000 If you read the Rockefeller Foundation lockstep 2011, and you read all the rest of the stuff, they said, we're going to use the virus to take control.

02:14:40.000 I mean, I think it's both.

02:14:48.000 And so this was their play.

02:14:49.000 It was all on purpose.

02:14:50.000 It wasn't a mistake.

02:14:51.000 I see Congress like, Fauci, admit you made a mistake.

02:14:53.000 I didn't make a mistake.

02:14:55.000 I did not make a mistake.

02:14:56.000 No, it was not a mistake.

02:14:57.000 It was a premeditated power grab for depopulation to corrupt the medical system and get full control.

02:15:04.000 So if tyrants are going to make a move, it's going to be the medical system.

02:15:06.000 So they did it.

02:15:07.000 So now it's blown up in their face.

02:15:10.000 And now they're trying to bring back bird flu.

02:15:11.000 So the next question is, how do we counter their next operation?

02:15:14.000 We're all vindicated.

02:15:15.000 And it's not about, oh, I'm vindicated.

02:15:17.000 No, it's about stopping the next event.

02:15:17.000 Aren't I great?

02:15:20.000 So you've been through hell exposing the truth.

02:15:22.000 So is Joe Rogan.

02:15:23.000 So is Tucker Carlson.

02:15:24.000 All of us, all the listeners and viewers.

02:15:26.000 And so the bigger debate is, Wow, the globalists aren't invincible.

02:15:30.000 They're not.

02:15:31.000 They're tyrants that believe they were.

02:15:34.000 The bigger question is, what are they going to pull next?

02:15:36.000 And then what is the right course of action to take control of the system and then stop them from the next attack?

02:15:41.000 That's where I'm at.

02:15:43.000 I suppose the next attack is likely to be an escalation of hostility between Western powers and Russia, potentially all-out war.

02:15:55.000 Or there will be some regulation imposed because of climate change, or there will be some kind of new pandemic.

02:16:02.000 I suppose what we can assume is that crisis in conjunction with the ability to impose regulation appears to be the template.

02:16:12.000 What's weird about this, Alex, I think, is 20 years ago, 30 years ago, before this space became so mercurial and volatile, This would have been an analytic you would have got from Noam Chomsky or Naomi Klein.

02:16:26.000 In shock doctrine, the way that the CIA and various deep state forces would create coups and opportunity for power grabs in South and Latin American countries, we're now just seeing deployed domestically in the same way that some of the methods and technology that's been used in Middle Eastern nations to cause disruption And to subvert their power systems is being domestically deployed here.

02:16:51.000 The very same technology, the very same agencies.

02:16:55.000 So I suppose the reason that the control of information is so vital is if you have a well-informed population that are by default in opposition to regulatory measures are by default against authoritarianism, then it is much harder to

02:17:13.000 whatever the next wave is going to be, it's going to be much harder to implement it when you have a population that's default position is not compliance but is disobedience and

02:17:23.000 opposition.

02:17:24.000 Well, I mean, that's it, Russell, and I don't want to understate this or overstate it.

02:17:29.000 There's no way to overstate it.

02:17:31.000 Ladies and gentlemen, humanity is winning.

02:17:33.000 People, on average, get it's a lie.

02:17:35.000 We have 4% uptake on the 10th booster.

02:17:38.000 So, a corrupt, degenerate, inbred power structure that's supposed to be thrown away with a new establishment Is being defeated.

02:17:38.000 People get it.

02:17:47.000 So their next inclination is, as you said, World War III with Russia to try to overturn the chessboard.

02:17:52.000 So we have actually won the intellectual, cultural, economic, medical debate, but the establishment is so used to victory, they're not going to give up.

02:18:02.000 So in that paradox is where we are right now.

02:18:08.000 Yeah, I completely agree with you, Alex.

02:18:13.000 But sometimes you and I, when we're talking about this, stray into, and it's difficult I suppose because it's almost impossible to corroborate.

02:18:23.000 I know that in the earlier part of your career, You looked into the potential occultist forces that are involved.

02:18:30.000 When before you mentioned Epstein and some of the stories around trafficking and exploitation, it seems that like sex and occultism are sort of in the mix here.

02:18:42.000 Do you ever think that you want to Not report on that aspect of it?

02:18:47.000 Or do you think that it's vital and is integral to the reporting on these stories to acknowledge that there appears to be some demonic component?

02:18:55.000 Or do you consider that there might be a benefit in focusing on what can be corroborated?

02:19:01.000 For example, now, because of the pandemic, you can make those calculations about excess deaths.

02:19:06.000 You can even say something that sounds pretty outlandish to a lot of people.

02:19:10.000 35 million died from the gene therapies vaccines, pick your term.

02:19:14.000 What do you feel about getting into the more esoteric stuff around demonic forces and occultism that might undergird or somehow be behind these power struggles?

02:19:26.000 Well, look, nobody laughs at us now talking about the occult.

02:19:30.000 And so this is a spiritual battle.

02:19:32.000 This is going on.

02:19:33.000 If you don't recognize that, you can't even respond to it.

02:19:37.000 So this whole system is about getting us to go against the very fabric of who we are.

02:19:42.000 So let's take sex. 0.95

02:19:44.000 Sex is a man and a woman. 1.00

02:19:46.000 with all of this evolutionary past, and it's in all the animals, it's in all the plants, like flowers are the sexual organ, the female organ of a plant, to get pollen, the bees separate it all.

02:19:59.000 I mean, so of course, the Satan is obsessed on that because they can corrupt that.

02:20:05.000 They've got full control.

02:20:06.000 That's where the real magic's happening.

02:20:08.000 So the occult is all just an inversion of the real power of procreation.

02:20:13.000 The real power of life is about procreation, is about coming together, is about the opposites, is about this magic.

02:20:20.000 So it's not that sex is bad, it's that what they've done to it is bad, corrupting it because it is the fulcrum or the center of the wheel which everything orbits around, so that's why they want to target the children

02:20:32.000 and ruin them early and get them into all this because they can then control their psyche into the future. So the fact that we're aware of this

02:20:41.000 gives us amazing foresight and power into the future that following normal human programs that were given by God through nature is what we should do and any attack on that

02:20:56.000 is an attack on our very fundamentals. We are not happy unless we follow these strictures that are incredible. Great lives, great husbands, great wives, great children.

02:21:07.000 Grandchildren, the future.

02:21:09.000 It's what we do.

02:21:10.000 It's not like men and women having sex and having children is like some thing we do like going to a football game.

02:21:15.000 It is what we are.

02:21:17.000 It's what it's all designed for.

02:21:18.000 The fish in the sea, the birds in the air, to the trees, to the flowers, to all the animals.

02:21:23.000 This is what we do.

02:21:25.000 This is a holy, ritualistic event of a coming together and competition in life.

02:21:31.000 And so, of course, the Satanists focus on that and twist sex.

02:21:35.000 To make us think sex is bad.

02:21:36.000 No, sex is holy. 0.97

02:21:38.000 Sex is from God. 0.70

02:21:39.000 But it's got to be done the way God directed it.

02:21:42.000 And that's why they're attacking it, is because it's so powerful.

02:21:47.000 Yes, I see.

02:21:48.000 Everything that is an intersectional point or an interface between the divine and the material, the human and the holy, becomes an interface that ought be tainted.

02:22:02.000 And it also becomes, I suppose, a nexus for power and for control.

02:22:08.000 Because that, I suppose, is one of the questions I still deliberate over.

02:22:13.000 How much can you advance this conversation simply by focusing on matters of dominion and resource?

02:22:21.000 Can you have a conversation with your audience, with your community, where you say, look, it appears that through bureaucracy they are using crisis to centralise authority, to delegitimise all freedom, to divide us from one another.

02:22:39.000 And then sort of stop there.

02:22:41.000 Not to say, and I wonder what the motivation for this could be.

02:22:45.000 It can't just be because they want to have nicer houses and more access to privilege than other people.

02:22:52.000 Perhaps there are darker...

02:22:55.000 You know, I was looking at Ephesians, is that what you're pulling up now?

02:22:58.000 In the Bible, God's first command to humanity in Genesis is be fruitful and multiply.

02:23:02.000 Right, so the sanctity and sacredness of sex.

02:23:05.000 The command is also found in Genesis 9 verses 1 and 7 and chapter 35, 11 in Christian theology.

02:23:12.000 Procreation is seen as a moral command that is part of the creation mandate.

02:23:16.000 In Psalm 127 verse 3, Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord.

02:23:21.000 The fruit of the womb is a reward. 0.99

02:23:23.000 And that's in a new King James.

02:23:26.000 Let's expand on that.

02:23:26.000 I want you to go further because we go back to sex.

02:23:29.000 God gave us sex, not the devil.

02:23:31.000 You grow up, you're like, oh the devil, cheerleaders, Satan, it's fun.

02:23:34.000 I was into all that.

02:23:36.000 I mean, I was there.

02:23:38.000 It's all a perversion.

02:23:39.000 Imagine a man and a woman that love each other get together, they merge their genetics and create a new creature that can create art and literature and is a free will.

02:23:48.000 That is the ultimate ritual.

02:23:49.000 God gave us the powerful ritual of procreation and so that is what is under attack.

02:23:55.000 So I'll go back to that.

02:23:57.000 Why is Satanism obsessed with sex?

02:23:59.000 Because sex is literally the ritual. 0.58

02:24:02.000 It is so Powerful it is so amazing and then it makes a man and woman who've now come together to make this creature Want to defend it and promote it which goes into the future.

02:24:13.000 It is a union of resistance against anything that will destroy it So it's Satan hates that Congress that alliance of men and women that create the future That's why we go back to sex is because everything is about procreation everything is about Genesis everything is about that wavelength and that's why it's an Do you think that there is a kind of aim to annihilate all that is holy?

02:24:40.000 To desecrate and destroy all that is beautiful?

02:24:44.000 That we are somehow in a playground of eternity where great forces, through material means, conduct a divine battle?

02:24:55.000 A battle where good and evil is literally playing out and you're saying that Congress is one, a sexual Congress, is one of the sort of intersectional points.

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02:26:30.000 I Want to ask you Russell looking at all this in the human awakening and and and the desire

02:26:39.000 I love this, those of you that are watching this visually, showing that moment of relaxation, that luminous moment of creation, that there is a let there be light moment.

02:26:56.000 At the inception of every individual, a beautiful fractal reality plays out.

02:27:01.000 A moment of creation and light at the cellular level.

02:27:05.000 Twice we have been a single cell, once personally we have been a single cell, then a dual cell entity, and once more at the beginning of the material journey that itself is divine even if it plays out in Darwinian terms across the material plane.

02:27:24.000 Twice we have been a single cell, then two cells unfolding through light into this reality.

02:27:31.000 I wonder Alex, about the, yes, the extraction of the divine, and I suppose you're asking me a pretty broad question, what happens now?

02:27:39.000 Well, obviously, I wonder, I'm terrified.

02:27:42.000 I'm terrified sometimes by what seems to be the incredible scale and scope of power.

02:27:48.000 I'm terrified when I watch it play out domestically in American politics.

02:27:52.000 I'm terrified when I see it play out in my country.

02:27:56.000 I'm terrified to see how many things you've said publicly Aside from the things to which you have done your own mere culprits for, the times that you have been ahead of the curve.

02:28:08.000 I said on a show yesterday, I think I was talking to Chris Pavlovsky at Rumble, that we've got Alex Jones prior to 9-11 saying there's this guy Osama Bin Laden, the CIA are going to blow up the World Trade Center, they're going to blame it on Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, then they're going to use it as an excuse to go to war.

02:28:26.000 I feel that once someone's got the footage of that, you have to consider what that person says pretty carefully going forward.

02:28:36.000 And I've said to you in one of our previous conversations that you, in a culture that Revered evangelism or if not shamanism, which I understand can be seen as trying to use God for your own purposes, but prophecy or channeling or all of the various terms that could be applied to metaphysical discourse.

02:28:56.000 I feel that because we live a materialistic and solely rationalistic life, we've excluded the possibility that people have extraordinary capacities and abilities.

02:29:04.000 Now when I look at this just on a material plane, Alex, I'm terrified.

02:29:07.000 I'm terrified to see what happens to everyone who speaks out, to everyone who is dissenting.

02:29:12.000 I'm terrified by the various means by which they are leveraging care and safety in order to create more authority.

02:29:20.000 I'm astonished to find that there are large communities of people that consider it Necessary to surrender their freedom and are willingly going to be shorn and sheared and castrated.

02:29:33.000 But I am heartened by the amount of resistance.

02:29:37.000 I'm astonished now because of a personal experience the number of people that absolutely reject What they can plainly see are various media organisations and various online and government entities cooperating in order to generate stories.

02:29:53.000 What I'm excited by now is the ability to form real-time resistance and real-time opposition.

02:30:01.000 For me I suppose one area of concern is I don't see enough practical political suggestion for us to get behind that to me would represent a pivotal moment of change.

02:30:15.000 You know the other day I said people would be better off voting for Trump than Biden and in some media quarters that you know really popped off and people were outraged that anyone could say such a thing.

02:30:26.000 What I would say in my country where we're about to It seems elect another globalist is other than Nigel Farage who is very much aligned with a kind of Britain first type movement.

02:30:37.000 There is no populism and where there is populism, there's very seldom a spiritual dimension.

02:30:44.000 We're mostly talking about Patriotism and borders and immigration which I recognize are very important issues to a lot of people but what I suppose I am personally excited by and what I consider to be most important is how do we re-sacralize these spaces?

02:31:03.000 How do we bring God back into the conversation?

02:31:06.000 How do we assert the right to live holy lives?

02:31:09.000 How do we recover ideas like salvation and redemption?

02:31:13.000 And atonement, and community, and unity in service, and kindness.

02:31:17.000 All values that appear to have been diluted out and marginalized by a rationalist discourse that leaves us with nothing but individual goals.

02:31:26.000 The kind of individual goals that we were discussing at the beginning of this conversation that leave people where they may have some talent to use it to simply pursue personal objectives that will ultimately be unfulfilling.

02:31:39.000 There aren't many templates other than Christianity and the Holy word, and I'm sure there are other people that have contradictory or competing theological or spiritual views, but there aren't many value systems being widely enough promoted in the political sphere to give me serious hope that there is a alternative to either divisive politics that run along cultural lines or centrist, globalist, corporatist politics.

02:32:11.000 I would love to see more spiritual values injected into the political conversation and for that to be done in a way that's appealing and inclusive.

02:32:22.000 Let's speak to that because I want to ask you.

02:32:26.000 People sit there and they see you accepting God, accepting Christ, and they say, well, this guy's been totally worldly.

02:32:32.000 We can't listen to him.

02:32:33.000 The whole Bible and common sense is, God isn't looking for the Pharisees.

02:32:38.000 He's looking for people that were in the system that come out of it.

02:32:40.000 And we judge three by its fruits.

02:32:42.000 You are now...

02:32:43.000 opposing their system. The system is coming after you because you're the prodigal son.

02:32:49.000 You've been through the wilderness. You've experienced it. You're the most credible type person who's actually experienced this, is now saying God's the answer. We cannot refuse that.

02:32:59.000 That is true. And if we do refuse that, we're working with the system.

02:33:03.000 But yeah, the old New World Order dogma is coming down.

02:33:07.000 People see it.

02:33:08.000 Not just Russell Brand or Joe Rogan.

02:33:10.000 Joe Rogan's like, believes in God now and says, we need God, we need Jesus.

02:33:14.000 Because we really do.

02:33:16.000 Because the archetype we've been sold is Satan, is Batman, is death.

02:33:21.000 You can joke about it, be cute about it, but this is real.

02:33:24.000 And people can instinctively understand there are no atheists in foxholes.

02:33:27.000 So can you speak to...

02:33:30.000 I already asked the question, but your spiritual awakening, you reaching out to God, what was that process like, Russell Brand?

02:33:39.000 There are two sons in the prodigal son parable.

02:33:43.000 The son who wanted his inheritance early and squandered it in a life of philandering and excess.

02:33:51.000 And then there's the older son who stayed home and lived a moral life, but on seeing his father's easy embrace of the returning son, feels resentful that he ain't being sufficiently rewarded for his moral and ethical life.

02:34:05.000 An analysis I recently read points out that our Lord and Saviour told that story in front of the Pharisees to make the point that Christianity is for sinners.

02:34:14.000 It's to reach out to those of us that are not of this world, that know that this world is never enough, that try to consume this world and eat this world and have found want in it and find it deficient, that require a spiritual solution.

02:34:27.000 And me, I didn't know where to look for that.

02:34:30.000 People didn't offer me that.

02:34:31.000 Now, I'm really lucky that I found a 12-step solution to my problems with alcohol and drugs, and that opened me up to the possibility, to the certainty that a spiritual solution was what was required.

02:34:42.000 And indeed, it was in being forced to recognize that I'd built further false idols, vanity, my own success, my own importance, It's a very tenacious idea, the idea of individual success, which I guess is a Luciferian idea, to use the kind of archetypal talk that you were just using there, Alex.

02:35:03.000 Like, when there is great suffering, when I was simultaneously being attacked While my son was having heart surgery while he was 12 weeks old, I was confronted with powerlessness and despair and the recognition that there are dark forces in the world and that there is a requirement for a connection that transcends the self.

02:35:27.000 And whilst I've been praying to God and like I've believed for God a long while and like I have tattoos of Christ on my body, I still At a deep and unconscious level, was reliant on myself for success or results or for the solution of problems.

02:35:45.000 You're talking about surrender.

02:35:47.000 Yeah man, surrender.

02:35:49.000 And I can surrender by being broken.

02:35:51.000 By being broken.

02:35:52.000 By recognizing that of myself I am nothing.

02:35:55.000 And there was something so important about the human Christ.

02:36:00.000 A figure that is both fully human and fully divine.

02:36:04.000 And the ability and necessity to fully accept, I am redeemed through you Jesus Christ.

02:36:11.000 None of us come up to the standards of God.

02:36:14.000 If it were down to any of us individually, we are all condemned and we are all damned.

02:36:19.000 But through you, Lord, and through your sacrifice, we are forgiven.

02:36:22.000 Well, Russell, let me say this.

02:36:23.000 Not through anything we've done.

02:36:24.000 Let me say this.

02:36:25.000 I've followed you for years.

02:36:26.000 You're a great, smart guy.

02:36:27.000 I met you like over ten years ago.

02:36:30.000 I can see it physically. You're 10 times more powerful than you ever were.

02:36:33.000 And it's not about being powerful, but you can see Christ in you. Anybody that actually has Holy Spirit vision can see you're for real. So for all the little doubters and Pharisees saying,

02:36:42.000 why is Russell Brand a Christian now? God came for the sinners. God came for me. I was a horrible sinner. I did terrible things. I beat people to death. All the stuff people do.

02:36:51.000 I was not a conscious Satanist, but I was prideful.

02:36:55.000 I was a Luciferian.

02:36:56.000 By the time I was about 18, I broke from it.

02:36:58.000 And I'm telling you, Russell, you've done it.

02:37:00.000 And they are so upset you've done this.

02:37:02.000 We can see it on you right now.

02:37:03.000 You are so alive.

02:37:04.000 What is it like when you finally metamorphosized and were born again?

02:37:09.000 Was there a moment it happened or it happened in the process?

02:37:12.000 And how would you, was it a baptism or how would you describe, because I can see you're born again.

02:37:16.000 What was that like?

02:37:19.000 Well, it was... You know, the kind of people...

02:37:23.000 that are willing to love you in terrifying times, it appears are not exclusively Christian, but among them there are many Christians.

02:37:32.000 And I didn't make no choice to... I didn't like individually say, what I think I'll do now is get baptised.

02:37:40.000 I'll tell you this, I can locate for you some significant moments.

02:37:44.000 A friend of mine, my mate Ralph, sent me the book Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren.

02:37:50.000 I'm reading that book and I saw it like some Footage of Rick Warren talking about his son ending his life through suicide.

02:37:56.000 And when I saw Rick Warren talking about that, I thought, wow, this guy bears no trace of being a highly regarded pastor and spiritual leader who's had the worst thing happen to him that can happen.

02:38:08.000 His child has taken his own life.

02:38:10.000 He's not carrying any shame for that.

02:38:11.000 He doesn't seem to have a subtext of, well, I guess I'm not all that because otherwise I'd have been able to prevent my kid from killing himself.

02:38:18.000 He had no trace of that.

02:38:19.000 Just openness and honesty and love behind the incredible grief that he was rendering.

02:38:25.000 Then in that book, the first four or five words, it's not about you.

02:38:29.000 Like the recognition, oh my God, I keep falling into self-centeredness.

02:38:32.000 I find it so hard not to go back to self-centeredness.

02:38:36.000 And my mate Bear Grylls, you know, like Bear Grylls from Running Wild and a former member of the SAS, you know, he said to me, we're getting baptised, you know, because in that book it talks about baptism and belonging to a church and reading the Word of God.

02:38:50.000 And I'm sort of slowly, reluctantly, tentatively and with great vulnerability and some resistance doing this.

02:38:57.000 And then he says, we're going to get baptised on the 28th of April.

02:39:00.000 And I'm like, oh, I'm not getting, am I getting baptised?

02:39:03.000 Am I really getting baptised?

02:39:04.000 Is that going to happen?

02:39:05.000 And then, you know, he comes to my house.

02:39:07.000 I live near the River Thames.

02:39:09.000 And him and my mate Joe get in the river with the pastor that he brought with us.

02:39:14.000 And I tell you, I felt like I was coughing stuff up.

02:39:18.000 Like I felt like a real change in the little ceremony.

02:39:22.000 It was like an exorcism.

02:39:24.000 Oh man, it felt like that.

02:39:24.000 You felt it.

02:39:25.000 Oh, and you made the decision to go, because I was a devil too.

02:39:28.000 And when I made that move at about 18, I could, you said I was throwing up, it was all, I was in my own room by myself, but it's real.

02:39:36.000 You were throwing off all this energy.

02:39:39.000 Yeah, I feel like it gets on you, man.

02:39:41.000 That stuff is tenacious.

02:39:43.000 And straight after that, my friend cut his foot up in the River Thames, which is a pretty common experience, actually, and we had to go straight to, like, the emergency room, get my friend's foot stitched up, which Bear Grylls has done a pretty damn good job of binding, actually, because he is, after all, Bear Grylls.

02:39:58.000 And then from that moment, what I feel like is, I still feel vulnerable.

02:40:02.000 I still feel tentative.

02:40:03.000 I feel like the need for continual prayer.

02:40:06.000 I feel like the need for continual communion.

02:40:08.000 I feel like I want guidance.

02:40:09.000 But now I know Christ is real.

02:40:12.000 Now I have a relationship with Christ.

02:40:14.000 There is a God and it is not me.

02:40:16.000 What happened in the moment when you got shoved under the water?

02:40:23.000 The moment, like the build-up to it was incredible and the moment of what I felt kind of fearful and afraid and I was like this is, you know, this is not just a symbolic act.

02:40:32.000 This is, you know, like you get underwater pretty regular, I'm getting cold plunges all the time.

02:40:36.000 I went backwards under that water, Bear Grylls on one side and my mate Joe on the other side and I came back out and like, you know, like and just like, you know, received the blessing and everything and I was just like I felt very relieved and I felt grace and I felt pretty good actually and at ease but before I could get into communicating about it and saying hey this is I think this is real this has done something to me I feel different my friend had gashed his foot and Bear Grylls is Bear Grylls so he's like we're gonna have to go straight to the emergency room the next 10 minutes is gonna require you to be a man Joe he said while pouring a strong disinfectant on my friend's foot and then binding it up not using leaves and branches but actually just

02:41:15.000 Let's be clear about this because I've been through this as well.

02:41:18.000 Anybody that insults the Holy Spirit coming on someone, that's one of the worst curses.

02:41:23.000 People need to realize Saul of Tarsus hunted down Christians by the hundreds and murdered them.

02:41:30.000 He got hit on the road to Damascus by the Spirit of God.

02:41:33.000 This should be celebrated.

02:41:35.000 And Russell, I can see it in your face.

02:41:37.000 I can see from the person you were before to the person you are now.

02:41:42.000 I can see it in your face, and that's what scares them so much.

02:41:46.000 It's beautiful.

02:41:47.000 I mean, I see Christ working in you, and I want to be clear to listeners, the church is where the devil operates. 0.89

02:41:53.000 He takes those over.

02:41:55.000 If you want to find Satan worshippers, go to a mainline church. 0.99

02:41:58.000 Almost all the churches are controlled.

02:41:59.000 What do I mean?

02:42:00.000 You've got to pray to God and say, I want justice.

02:42:04.000 I want freedom.

02:42:05.000 I want to be good.

02:42:05.000 I know this is a spiritual journey.

02:42:08.000 I want you to have the church in me.

02:42:10.000 And it's got to be about that.

02:42:11.000 So don't, because I know so many people look at the church and say, I'm not part of that.

02:42:16.000 Absolutely.

02:42:17.000 But we have to realize, I don't tell people these stories, but literally folks, my whole life, it was a fight between the God and the devil in the last 20 years.

02:42:17.000 We're not part of that.

02:42:26.000 Or 30 years before that.

02:42:27.000 I made the deal with God 30 years ago, but the point was it's still been a battle, and now I can't even compute the knowledge I've been given, the discernment, the over-the-horizon knowledge, the things God tells me to show me is wild, and that's only God.

02:42:41.000 I tell the story because it's true.

02:42:42.000 It happened like four times in a week about a month ago, because God wanted me to follow His orders immediately.

02:42:47.000 It usually happens like once a month.

02:42:49.000 I'll wake up at 7 a.m., 6 a.m., 5 a.m.

02:42:52.000 And I don't keep my phone.

02:42:54.000 The room was just toxic and bad.

02:42:55.000 There's no phone in the room.

02:42:56.000 It's all dark.

02:42:57.000 And I wake up at 4 a.m.

02:42:58.000 and God goes, go right now to your phone that's laying on the bathroom counter and look at it.

02:43:03.000 It's gonna be 4 a.m.

02:43:04.000 And I get up, I walk, it's 4 a.m.

02:43:06.000 And the guy goes, now you think that wasn't me?

02:43:09.000 Countdown, there's 15 seconds left.

02:43:11.000 I count down and it goes to 4.01.

02:43:14.000 And that's the type, this is real, folks.

02:43:16.000 There is an extraordinary outside force that wants us to be successful, that is giving us information.

02:43:22.000 But there's also forces that do not want us to be successful.

02:43:25.000 And if you just dial into that's real, then you have all the answers.

02:43:29.000 That's the point I'm making, Russell.

02:43:32.000 Yeah, it's atemporal and aspatial that we are in this box of space and time and within the box of space and time we only receive limited data and we can only observe limited patterns on a limited sensory bandwidth.

02:43:48.000 Through Christ, all things become possible and all things become available.

02:43:52.000 And just a glimpse of that, just a moment of that passing through me, is enough to change me.

02:43:58.000 But this world, with its temptations and with its sin, and with its corrupting influences and its systems of control, it too is tenacious.

02:44:06.000 It too don't want to release us.

02:44:09.000 I feel great revelation and I feel great hope and sometimes I wonder is the message just let it all happen just let this stuff happen because I know that surrender as you said Alex is a big part of this but when I read as I am the Bible it feels like the early church is a very very radical movement indeed that it is about opposing evil very very directly Now I know that none of us individually has the right to suggest or ordain how that might go, but I know that all of us individually and therefore collectively have a duty to find this path, to find this light and to do our own best job of conveying it.

02:44:47.000 And it's very difficult for me, Alex, as a person that has always been captivated by these systems, to recognize that this is a different type of surrender, this is a different type of journey.

02:45:00.000 You know, not everything I did was like, you know, like I'm a good stand-up comedian, I'm in movies, it's cool, you know, like I was a sinner and I'm happy to be redeemed.

02:45:10.000 But like, I recognize now that What is required of us is something that, the reason I bring up that stuff about how do we incorporate this into this movement of resistance, of radicalism, of necessary overthrow and opposition, is because nothing else is going to be able to do it.

02:45:28.000 I can see that.

02:45:28.000 No, I totally agree with that.

02:45:29.000 Let me say something about you.

02:45:30.000 I got to meet you In a few interviews, when you were married to the big music star, and you were telling me behind the scenes and on air about your awakening to the Illuminati.

02:45:40.000 Then I met you in Austin, I went to one of your events, and you were a big, powerful guy.

02:45:44.000 You're a powerful spirit.

02:45:45.000 You can see it.

02:45:46.000 Like, wow, that's Russell Brand.

02:45:47.000 This guy's intimidating, just like Trump is, or other people like that.

02:45:50.000 Like, oh God, this guy's important.

02:45:53.000 But then I could still see in your eyes, you were like shifting in and out.

02:45:56.000 You were conflicted.

02:45:56.000 You weren't a Satanist, and you weren't a Christian.

02:45:59.000 I can see like in your eyes, you're like back and forth.

02:46:03.000 Now, I'm only telling you this because everybody can see it, you are so powerful now in Christ.

02:46:08.000 They can see that so they will come after you.

02:46:10.000 What is the process in your family like?

02:46:12.000 Because I can see it over this video conference.

02:46:14.000 I'm sure you've, what are your dreams now?

02:46:16.000 Because with me fully joining Christ, it's just insanely good.

02:46:20.000 I can't believe nobody, what is it like for you now that you are serving Christ and it's going on for years, now you're declaring it, which they come after you for, what was that threshold like?

02:46:32.000 Well, what I feel like now, Alex, Is that what I do next is not going to be determined by me and you know that of course personally because of the significant opposition and the nature of the attacks that anyone who's in this space is likely to receive.

02:46:49.000 It's incredible to be in a family.

02:46:51.000 It's incredible to suddenly recognize What incredible gifts I've been given.

02:46:56.000 I've got three children.

02:46:58.000 I've got two daughters.

02:46:59.000 I've got a seven-year-old and a five-year-old that adore me and love me.

02:47:02.000 I've got a beautiful, kind wife. 0.76

02:47:05.000 I recognize now that I've been defined by greed and wanting and longing and always wanting more.

02:47:12.000 I've been given the gift of a little son who, when I heard in that scan that he was going to be born with a heart condition and that there were going to be challenges and necessary surgery and that he might not make it, And that they were offering, you know, to terminate that pregnancy.

02:47:27.000 This offering of my son, the experience of being in hospitals where you are surrounded by sick children, children that are not going to make it, when you walk through an oncology reward, an oncology ward, while escaping paparazzi, while facing mass attacks, You recognize that where the truth is, is amidst suffering.

02:47:50.000 You recognize that beauty is abundant and that suffering grants us the opportunity to suffer correctly and to let go of a lot of things that I was gripping onto that were meaningless.

02:48:01.000 When I first heard that my child was going to be born with these problems, I said to my wife, I rejected it.

02:48:07.000 I don't want to go through this.

02:48:08.000 I don't want to go through the experience of children's hospitals and tubes up the nose and surgery.

02:48:12.000 Now I know what a blessing it is to be in a children's hospital, to hand over your child to an anaesthetist, to have your child with tubes up their little nose, to come back and be told that the surgery was a success, to walk the halls of a hospital where every child is suffering from a life-threatening condition or perhaps is blessed enough to have been saved, where every doctor, where every nurse is dedicated to something important and significant.

02:48:35.000 Suddenly, like any of us that have suffered through the suffering, you recognize that you've been in illusion.

02:48:40.000 That it might not be some incredible lightning flash or thunder clap, but it might be love.

02:48:45.000 Love that shows you your vulnerability.

02:48:47.000 Love that shows you a different path.

02:48:50.000 Now I recognize That my pathway will be different.

02:48:53.000 I know that I'm still going to experience fear.

02:48:55.000 I hate feeling fear, Alex Jones.

02:48:57.000 I do not enjoy that feeling of being attacked.

02:49:00.000 I do not enjoy the feeling of knowing that there are dark powers in high principalities out there.

02:49:06.000 I do not like it, but I know that there is a higher grace and I know that there is a higher power and I know that if I continue to surrender and yield, that that power is available, not to me to serve myself.

02:49:20.000 But for me, that I may be useful.

02:49:23.000 And this is the early days of this journey for me, so I'm undertaking it with tutelage and guidance and with tentativeness and I hope humility, because I can see that humility is what is absolutely vital in this position.

02:49:36.000 In closing here, because we just had Tucker Carlson on, we're airing this right now, we're taping this on Thursday, it airs tomorrow, could be our last show, the planets align with Tucker and you.

02:49:46.000 The judge says he's probably shutting it down tomorrow, which we're airing this right now on Friday.

02:49:49.000 In closing, because you and Tucker are very, you know, very, very humble, we need people to celebrate folks who are telling the truth, the leaders.

02:49:57.000 How do people find Russell Brand and all the things you do?

02:50:01.000 We stream every day at 12 ET on Rumble, the free speech platform.

02:50:09.000 That's where you can find me.

02:50:10.000 Please follow us there if you are inclined.

02:50:13.000 It's free, every day, for one hour, streaming live, 12 ET.

02:50:18.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:50:18.000 Russell, thank you so much, and again, how do people follow you on X?

02:50:24.000 I think I'm called Rusty Rockets or something bloody stupid, but it'll come up under Russell Brand, I think, as well.

02:50:29.000 All right, brother, thank you so much, and it's beautiful to see what you've done in your life.

02:50:33.000 You've always been a powerful soul, and it's good to be on the same team.

02:50:36.000 We really love Russell Brand.

02:50:38.000 Thank you, Russell Brand.

02:50:40.000 Thank you so much.

02:50:41.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:50:54.000 I mean, he's so outrageously evil!

02:50:57.000 He's such a murderer!

02:50:59.000 And we need to have... You're a Christian, you're a father, you're a theologian, you're able to be really calm and nice about this.

02:51:04.000 I know you're pissed off about it, but... The thing is, take action, folks!

02:51:08.000 Resist them!

02:51:09.000 Protect yourself from them!

02:51:10.000 Expose them!

02:51:12.000 What do we do biblically, do you think, to just spiritually be able to deal with this?

02:51:16.000 Well, we can't deal with stuff like this on our own.

02:51:19.000 You have to lean on God.

02:51:23.000 Because when you look at what He is, He knows the beginning from the end.

02:51:23.000 You have to.

02:51:28.000 He knows everything that we're going through.

02:51:30.000 In the midst of the storm, He brings peace.

02:51:34.000 We know how this game ends.

02:51:37.000 And we know who wins.

02:51:39.000 Right?

02:51:39.000 And the Bible tells us every knee must bow.

02:51:42.000 The knee of sickness, the knee of disease, the knee of all these things that we're seeing.

02:51:46.000 And we know what happens to the devil.

02:51:49.000 Jesus throws him in the pit.

02:51:51.000 Right?

02:51:52.000 And so we know who wins this.

02:51:54.000 But here's the thing.

02:51:56.000 God never told us that this life was going to be easy.

02:52:00.000 He never told us.

02:52:01.000 In fact, He told us the opposite.

02:52:03.000 He said, Jesus said, you know, take up your cross and follow me.

02:52:07.000 People are going to oppose you for following me, but you know what?

02:52:11.000 The end result is going to be better if you follow me than if you don't.

02:52:17.000 Right, so look at the opposition, take the opposition, but never deviate from that path of following truth and following victory and that strength of God who created the universe, who put all of his creativity in us because we were created in his image.

02:52:36.000 We have to realize we've got that power of God pulsating through our veins every single day because we're created in His image and when we do that we can have confidence that like what Psalms tells us and we can rest under the shadow of His wings that the enemy will come near our tent but they can't come into it, right?

02:52:57.000 So, look at the enemy.

02:52:59.000 They're all slaves.

02:53:00.000 Satan always destroys them even before they die.

02:53:02.000 We see them betrayed.

02:53:03.000 We see them destroyed and we see Billions and billions of dollars spent by the federal government secretly with just Walgreens and CVS alone to not prescribe ivermectin.

02:53:13.000 So all this evil, you wonder why are they not giving people the drugs that they now admit works?

02:53:18.000 Because they wanted to hurt people, they wanted people fearful, but it took billions to buy them off to do the evil and the devil has the control of the purse.

02:53:27.000 He has the power of the earth right now.

02:53:29.000 He's the god of this world right now.

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02:54:41.000 *intro* Welcome to the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show.

02:54:52.000 I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer.

02:54:53.000 I'm so glad to be back.

02:54:55.000 So honored to be here after four years now of hosting the fourth hour.

02:54:59.000 It's been amazing.

02:55:01.000 I've had a blast doing it.

02:55:03.000 So honored.

02:55:04.000 And hopefully we can continue.

02:55:06.000 Hopefully the news will be positive.

02:55:09.000 In case it isn't the positive news that we hope for, in case it's bad news, I thought it might be good to go ahead and do the possible last fourth hour as a summation of the many global elite texts that we've done by focusing on a new one that I picked up recently.

02:55:27.000 You know that in the fourth hours, we've done many of these.

02:55:31.000 I've mentioned in the last six or seven years, probably about 60, maybe more, globally texts that we worked through.

02:55:39.000 This includes white papers.

02:55:40.000 It includes big fat tomes, geopolitical analyses, Brzezinski, Quigley.

02:55:45.000 Kissinger, Types, Rockefellers, many, many others.

02:55:51.000 And we covered one of the key texts by a guy named Jacques Attali, who you probably don't know about him very much in America, but he was the Kissinger of France.

02:56:01.000 In fact, Kissinger wrote the blurb there on the 2006 publication, "Brief History of the Future."

02:56:11.000 And when we analyzed that text, we saw all kinds of really deep predictive elements that We might not think would be that ahead of time.

02:56:24.000 We might be surprised to see things in 2006 playing out.

02:56:28.000 But I found his 1991 text, Millennium, that I read this week.

02:56:33.000 And it's amazing because it's even more predictive and even more concise than the larger book from 2006.

02:56:39.000 And this was right when Atali was placed at the head of one of the biggest banks That was in charge of restructuring the former Soviet bloc countries after the wall had fallen.

02:56:51.000 This book was written right after the wall fell and he was in charge of restructuring the economy of the Soviet bloc countries to fit it into the Western neoliberal model of IMF debt-based fiat control.

02:57:07.000 The foreword to the book is written by another key global elite architect, Alvin Toffler.

02:57:12.000 Toffler wrote many famous books like Future Shock, other texts where he talked about in the coming technocratic order, they would organize society around alternative lifestyles and they would even tie things like anarchism, communism, socialism, etc.

02:57:30.000 These kind of grassroots so-called movements, they would tie them into New diet lifestyles, vegetarianism, veganism would be promoted.

02:57:38.000 Toffler wrote about this in the late 70s, early 80s, and so he writes the foreword to one of his other cohorts in this technocratic globalist order, talking about and praising the character of Jacques Attali again as the sort of Kissinger of France.

02:57:53.000 He was to be the head of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

02:57:59.000 That is also at the same time as the public announcement of the European Union.

02:58:03.000 And we have to keep in mind that the European Union, as you know from other texts like Daniel Astlin's Bilderberg Group book, as Johan Ratio's book on the Fabian Society point out, the EU was actually planned in the 1940s and 50s by the OSS, the CIA, and Bilderberg.

02:58:21.000 So, it was actually a project that had been in the works for a long time, publicly announced in the early 90s, and Atali was chosen to be the head of one of these key institutions that would restructure the Soviet countries into not freedom and free market, that's what it's sold as, but rather into the IMF, Bank for National Settlements, Federal Reserve, fiat debt usury control system model.

02:58:47.000 And so, Atali was chosen as one of these key, I guess you could say in the words of John Perkins, economic hitman to restructure and control.

02:58:58.000 Now, amazingly, Atali is not just a person that you think of as this sort of boring banker.

02:59:05.000 He's also very interested in philosophy.

02:59:07.000 He's interested in culture war. 0.89

02:59:09.000 He's interested in intelligence studies, history, socialism, communism, transhumanism, all of those things.

02:59:16.000 Our elements that ought to be focused intently on in his many, many books, and not many of them actually been translated into English.

02:59:23.000 So it's good to see some of the texts that were translated from the French into the into English.

02:59:29.000 And again, he's kind of like a Kissinger in that he was the consultant, the handler, you might even say, to former French presidents like François Mitterrand.

02:59:39.000 Don't go anywhere.

02:59:40.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:59:41.000 We will continue with this global elite text from Jacques Attali when we return.

02:59:44.000 Welcome back to the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show and we're talking about the important text from 1991, Jacques Attali's Millennium.

02:59:52.000 Winners and losers in the coming what?

02:59:55.000 World Order!

02:59:57.000 Coming World Order.

02:59:58.000 And we know, of course, by analyzing so many of these texts, even going back a hundred plus years to people like Bertrand Russell, H.G.

03:00:05.000 Wells, people from the Royal Society, the Rothschilds, Milner circles, that the world order that we're going into, the global order as, as the new global order, as Toffler calls it in his introduction to Adelaide's book, was something planned a long time ago.

03:00:20.000 So it's very useful.

03:00:21.000 It's very instructive to read these texts, to go back to these texts, And I dare say no one else on the Internet, other than Alex sort of mentioning and going through these texts for many, many years, no one else has actually lectured through dozens and dozens of these as we have.

03:00:37.000 So the key to that is just, you know, reading, taking the time, analyzing it, and then I kind of put it in.

03:00:42.000 I do my homework for you.

03:00:44.000 And that way you don't have to sit and read all these boring books.

03:00:46.000 You can get the quick download of what all of these texts are saying and the unified plan that they've had for over 100 plus years to bring in this technocratic order that they're rolling out.

03:00:56.000 And that's why we've done this.

03:00:58.000 And it's amazing what they admit in the books.

03:01:01.000 And we do this because we want to understand not just what they planned a long time ago, but also what they might be rolling out in the near future.

03:01:09.000 What are the things that we might expect in the near term To be rolled out and to be given to us on, or forced down our throat, I guess I should say, in the words of Black Rock's Larry Fink.

03:01:23.000 So the book begins by talking about what to expect in the coming World War.

03:01:27.000 The first chapter is about the fall of the wall, the Cold War opening up the Soviet bloc countries to what you might think is a free market economy, but it's not.

03:01:36.000 It's a way to restructure them under this debt model.

03:01:40.000 And Atali says some pretty Shocking things in the beginning that you might not he might see you might think well I need to go read Karl Marx and and read Adam Smith and Ottilie says, you know, what's a better model for understanding the world that we're going into the movie Blade Runner?

03:01:56.000 He says the movie Blade Runner will be more important than mastering or knowing the text of Marx's Das Kapital or Adam Smith's Wealth of Nation.

03:02:05.000 And he says that, as many of the other global elite techs have said, as Klaus has said, as World Economic Forum has said many times over, the future cannot have a dominant America.

03:02:17.000 America must be taken down a few pegs.

03:02:20.000 It must radically transform, to use the terminology of Atali.

03:02:25.000 We must have an end of the nation states.

03:02:27.000 And one of the ways to do that is to create a global economy based around fast money.

03:02:35.000 Now we're already kind of at that point.

03:02:37.000 I don't know that we can ever stop that.

03:02:39.000 So we might want to choose the options for global money that are the hardest forms of money that don't become susceptible to government manipulation or private manipulation.

03:02:49.000 Something like Bitcoin.

03:02:52.000 He says there will be an end of nation states, and that's necessary to go into this order.

03:02:57.000 And the way that we will do that, he says, is through what he calls nomadic devices.

03:03:01.000 You'll recall that in his 2006 book, I thought that it was very prescient and very, very powerful that he predicted things like the iPhone and that it would create a nomadic society where people would no longer be attached to the roots of their heritage, their family, their culture, their tradition.

03:03:19.000 Rather, they would be able to roam about And their lives would be lived out on their phones or on their laptops or whatever the nomadic devices are. 0.97

03:03:29.000 He talks about different generations of these nomadic devices that eventually it will become a kind of a computer chip or a brain chip or a nanotech chip in the mind.

03:03:38.000 And if we look back, we'll recall that Attali says that the future of this whole order is, in fact, Transhumanism.

03:03:52.000 He says that transhumanists are the spearhead of revolution in our day.

03:03:58.000 So, hyper-democracy ultimately results in transhumanism.

03:04:04.000 So you're saying this is a transhumanist banker, is what we're talking about.

03:04:07.000 There he is talking about.

03:04:10.000 Now that's what he said in 2006, and I thought that was pretty ahead of its time, but in fact he actually says the same thing in 1991.

03:04:19.000 The first chapter deals with and the last chapter deals with nomadic devices as a way to break down your sense of yourself, your identity, your connectedness to your family.

03:04:32.000 And by breaking down the connectedness to family and other human beings through social media, the internet, tech, nomadic devices, it would then break down the ties of the nation-state.

03:04:42.000 And then the nation-state would break down and you would eventually be part of a global monoculture.

03:04:50.000 He says that if you want to understand what he projects the decline of America to be like, he says it's like the decline of the Spanish Empire.

03:04:58.000 This is a direct parallel between these two and the decline of the Spanish Empire was not because of factors that you might expect, like being invaded or something like that.

03:05:09.000 No, he says it was massive debt.

03:05:14.000 He says the key to other nation states or empires lasting longer That America or the Spanish Empire, he says, was avoiding debt and avoiding foreign entanglements and conflicts.

03:05:28.000 The very thing that the Founding Fathers of America understood would be the thing that would lead to the decline.

03:05:34.000 And here we are with what Brzezinski and the Council of Foreign Relations said is the Pax Americana of the American Empire.

03:05:42.000 And what does it do?

03:05:43.000 It has to sustain itself through constant wars in Ukraine, wars in other countries, war here, war there.

03:05:50.000 War in Yemen, war in this and that, through proxies, through whatever.

03:05:54.000 It's all now a system based around no longer producing things.

03:05:58.000 That's the de-industrialization that occurred through the Rand Corporation and its machinations to take us away from an industrial economy and into a service-based economy.

03:06:09.000 That's all tied to the greater increasing adoption of the debt fiat model of currency, meaning the debasement of the money And the purchasing power through inflation and through the Fed.

03:06:23.000 He says that it's clear as day.

03:06:25.000 This is a top banker.

03:06:27.000 He says that America will fall not because of the lack of its creativity of its people or the power of its military, but through massive debt.

03:06:36.000 The number one problem, he says, is massive debt.

03:06:38.000 So he's not saying this to help America.

03:06:41.000 He's definitely a globalist.

03:06:42.000 He doesn't have any concern or interest in America.

03:06:44.000 In fact, he wants to see it brought down to bring in the internationalist order that he supports.

03:06:50.000 In fact, he says that social justice will be a key issue of the future.

03:06:55.000 Again, surprising that one of these guys in 1991 was talking about, quote, social justice.

03:07:01.000 Now, I know that social justice warriors and this kind of stuff comes out of the 60s, but here we have one of the top bankers admitting that the future will see an emphasis on, quote, social justice.

03:07:11.000 He says that we will transition into a service-based economy.

03:07:13.000 And then out of the dialectical clash of the Cold War, what we've seen is monopolistic capitalism clashing against electivism.

03:07:24.000 And he says we've gotten the dialectical solution, which is a merger, a kind of a new order of the future that he, in his very day in 1991, after the fall of the wall, was beginning to see emerge.

03:07:35.000 He says this will give rise to a technocracy Based around microchips, biometrics, and genetically modified organisms.

03:07:44.000 1991, who says that?

03:07:46.000 Now, is this not a proof that the power elite plan and structure the future?

03:07:53.000 Now, you might be tempted to think, well, this is blackpilling.

03:07:56.000 I'm going to be blackpiling.

03:07:58.000 I can't listen to this anymore.

03:07:59.000 No, I got good news.

03:08:01.000 Because, guess what?

03:08:03.000 The two key chapters that this book was written for, Jacques Attali was dead wrong about.

03:08:10.000 Although he predicted and got a lot of things correct, he made some huge miscalculations.

03:08:16.000 And I'm assuming the global elite along with him did as well.

03:08:20.000 They actually thought at this time, and I remember in the 1990s there was a lot of books being printed about the rise of Japan.

03:08:26.000 Atuli thought that because of the connection between Japan and tech, that Japan would be the future potential empire.

03:08:36.000 And he writes about that in an entire chapter.

03:08:37.000 He was very wrong about that because, in fact, Japan went through, from this very time of the mid-90s, early 90s, until 2023, what they called something like the stagnation years.

03:08:49.000 So the entire Japanese economy was in like a 30-year stagnation.

03:08:56.000 And at the same time, Atsuhi says, well, if it's not going to be Japan that is the future center of the world order, The new city of power, the city-state that rises to kind of be the global power.

03:09:06.000 He says it'll be the EU.

03:09:08.000 Well, he was also wrong about that.

03:09:10.000 The EU has not become the center of the global technocratic order.

03:09:17.000 But that doesn't mean he's not right in a lot of other areas and that there's not a lot of other predictions and plans that we can suss out from this book.

03:09:26.000 He notes that in his day, he actually saw The color revolutions that the CIA put on in Europe and he uses as one of his examples the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia as one of the key means to reorganize and open up these societies for a new technocratic future.

03:09:46.000 And he says that large-scale migrations of populations into these countries was enabled after the fall of the wall and after the Iron Curtain being removed.

03:10:01.000 So that you could have economic liberalism as the means for importing all kinds of low-wage migrant workers. 0.98

03:10:12.000 And he says that this is a plan to ensure pluralism, quote-unquote, which is really just weapons of mass migration, the Kelly Greenhill book.

03:10:24.000 That's a military academic text.

03:10:27.000 It's not a conspiracy text.

03:10:28.000 It's a famous book about A population being used to as a form of warfare.

03:10:34.000 And he says that this opening of the gates, opening of the doors through the economic policies allow for the transformation of the nations into the future world order, which will allow for a an empire of the future.

03:10:47.000 Now, the problem with this is that doing this doesn't actually empower the target union or nation.

03:10:56.000 It actually brings it down And so it can't actually then become some new center of power.

03:11:05.000 So whether they're dumb and they don't realize that because they're so committed to their ideology or they're very cunning and wicked and know that and they do it on purpose to destroy the countries, it's kind of hard to figure out because on the one hand they want at times to say that all the EU will be the power center of the future.

03:11:23.000 And yet, they're doing the very thing that destroys the power of that entity.

03:11:29.000 So it makes no sense.

03:11:30.000 I think there's a combination of both.

03:11:31.000 There's a combination of the belief in their weird, insane ideologies, and at the same time, there's factions of the elite that are cunning and deceptive enough to know that this doesn't actually produce anything positive or any real power.

03:11:46.000 It actually destroys.

03:11:48.000 He says that we will get to This technocratic order because technocracy allows and offers everybody security and immediacy.

03:11:59.000 So the temptation to have everything at your fingertips, the immediacy that you get will be enough to ensure that people opt into this system and thus surrender their sovereignty, their individuality, and all that.

03:12:13.000 And he says rights, for example, He says there's a contradiction in the global consumerist ideology, which is that it's based around these assumed rights to have pleasure, happiness, consumable goods with no end.

03:12:32.000 And he says that there really is no basis for these rights.

03:12:35.000 This is actually a point we make all the time.

03:12:38.000 Without the existence of the transcendent of God or something like that, there's no belief in rights or dignity.

03:12:44.000 Where do we see these rights?

03:12:46.000 If man is just another animal from the natural world, then there's no such thing as rights.

03:12:52.000 They're just human social constructs.

03:12:54.000 They don't exist under a microscope.

03:12:56.000 And so if there are no rights, as Atali points out, then he says we're going to actually have to have some kind of new future religion.

03:13:03.000 And he actually says we need a new version of the sacred rules to make up a new religion that fits into this global technocratic order.

03:13:11.000 He says to do this we're going to look back at history and we're going to learn some history lessons.

03:13:16.000 He says the history lesson that I want to give you is the historical forms of where we got government, where we got authority, and where we got power.

03:13:25.000 He says, if we go back to the ancient societies, this is always what we get, by the way, in the Global Elite text.

03:13:29.000 They love to give you this history lecture, and they essentially present it as if their version is the necessary, absolutely destined future that logically follows from their analysis of history.

03:13:43.000 And he points out that the ancient world was organized into hierarchies, and these were hierarchies made up arbitrarily to ensure the furtherance of that society.

03:13:55.000 of that tribe or that empire.

03:13:57.000 So, made-up categories were invented about kings or rulers or warriors and they were placed above everyone else and at the same time they had to create enemies, scapegoats, villains and so forth to monitor and control violence.

03:14:13.000 This allowed the state to have a monopoly of violence and then they also had to organize society around the notion of sacrifice.

03:14:20.000 All societies have had some version of the priesthood and the prince working together to control violence and to channel that violence into some form of, quote, sacrifice.

03:14:31.000 Thus, the control of society is ultimately, he says, the control of force or violence.

03:14:36.000 And he says you can relate this to three realms.

03:14:40.000 The control of society or violence through religion, through the military, and through economy.

03:14:45.000 Thus the sacred, he argues, was always at the service of these three power entities.

03:14:53.000 Religious power, however, over time became displaced by the military power.

03:14:59.000 And so we transition away from society trusting the priesthood And turning over, this is beginning to actually sound more and more kind of like Nietzsche, right?

03:15:10.000 And the priesthood then conceded in history over power to the military.

03:15:15.000 The military, however, eventually started conceding power to economy, to the money power.

03:15:21.000 Thus, in each of these phases, you could say, the sacred becomes whatever is the dominant control power structure.

03:15:32.000 First, it's religion.

03:15:33.000 Then it becomes military that's sacred and then it becomes the monetary power, the money power that is the sacred.

03:15:40.000 In each of these societies or these phases, authority is connected to that religious power.

03:15:47.000 He says in the ancient world, the whole world was seen as an integrated whole.

03:15:52.000 Everything was integrated and thus even trees and rocks had some sort of divine spirit in this holistic worldview.

03:16:00.000 As time progresses, however, objects that are seen to have a sacred or transcendental value lose that because they become commodities.

03:16:09.000 So animism and the fetishism of objects, you could say, caves to objects becoming products in a consumable way and that's the structure that you would expect under the rule of the money power or what he calls the order of money on page 22.

03:16:26.000 Money is a radical new way of controlling violence that is far superior to all the other ways of controlling violence.

03:16:34.000 Money then becomes connected to the order under which it is subsumed, particularly connected to technology.

03:16:42.000 So the better and more advanced the technology gets, the more efficient and the more useful the money power becomes and the more powerful it becomes.

03:16:51.000 He says that we're entering into today as the emergence of the tech order.

03:16:56.000 This is again 1991, so right before the omnipotence and omnipresence of the Internet.

03:17:03.000 He's saying that we're emerging into a new market form where at the center will be whatever and wherever is the new technocratic power.

03:17:13.000 I don't know where he gets these cities, but he says that there's eight city-states In the history of the world that had key centers of power.

03:17:21.000 And he says that we're now entering into the ninth form of this.

03:17:25.000 And he says this will be the crucial final form perhaps.

03:17:29.000 But he says it'll all be based around the efficient technology that allows for the fast transfer of money or whatever is symbolizing that money or energy transfer.

03:17:43.000 Does this sound like anything?

03:17:44.000 He says that will be the future and wherever that is centered will be the future power structure.

03:17:52.000 This sounds like Bitcoin.

03:17:54.000 I'm not saying he planned Bitcoin.

03:17:55.000 He doesn't know about that.

03:17:57.000 This is way before Bitcoin.

03:17:58.000 But he's saying that the future will necessarily be connected to wherever and however money is easily transferred in an instant.

03:18:10.000 That's not under the control or the surveillance of any single centralized entity.

03:18:17.000 It's not, it doesn't take a PhD rocket science to figure out, oh, when I understand the mechanics of Bitcoin it actually solves that, it actually is that.

03:18:26.000 The very thing that he's predicting would be the necessary element of a future power structure that will rule the next phase.

03:18:37.000 He says that in the history of the world there were eight City-states.

03:18:41.000 He calls these forms.

03:18:43.000 There was Bruges in 1300, Venice in 1450, Antwerp in 1500, Genoa in 1550, Amsterdam in 1650, London in 1750, Boston in 1880, New York in 1930 via Wall Street and the banks.

03:18:59.000 He says it remains to be seen what the next city-state will be and what that power structure will look like.

03:19:07.000 But he says it will necessarily be connected to the speed of money transfer and the money power.

03:19:16.000 Now remember, when I say the money power, on the one hand I'm talking about the existing Bretton Woods Federal Reserve banking system, which is based around fiat.

03:19:28.000 I'm saying the real money power will be the person who invents a solution to fiat debasement, centralized control, infinitely inflatable money.

03:19:42.000 Oh, wait a minute.

03:19:44.000 That's been invented called Bitcoin.

03:19:47.000 Again, if you read this book and you're perceptive and you understand what Bitcoin is, you understand that that is the future.

03:19:53.000 And even though Atali doesn't know about Bitcoin, what he's saying equates to that, if you're perceptive.

03:20:00.000 Now, Atali moves on to say, how are we going to get to these states?

03:20:03.000 Well, this future state, he says, if you notice, I don't know where he gets this, but he says in every one of these previous economies, as they move, these big key city states in the past, he says, as they move towards the modern form, The family gets reduced in power and more and more power is conceded to the market.

03:20:25.000 He says eventually the merchant class rises to power and one of the things that enabled the merchant class to come to power was technology.

03:20:32.000 Various city-states have become these centers and constellations of industry based around the technology that they developed and that they house and that they cling to.

03:20:44.000 He says that post-1930, the money power world that we've entered into is the Fabian model.

03:20:51.000 He says Keynesianism is the present order in which we live.

03:20:55.000 That is the post-World War II Bretton Woods model that was designed and organized entirely and in total by Fabian socialist economists.

03:21:06.000 That is Keynesianism, the New Deal, monopolistic, reformed, Marxism-slash-capitalism.

03:21:12.000 Those are the same things.

03:21:14.000 Madison Avenue, Wall Street, they're all part of that structure.

03:21:19.000 He says that whatever we go into will be the one that advances upon that horrible garbage trash system that we have.

03:21:33.000 The next chapter talks about the struggle for supremacy and he gives a very odd occultic image.

03:21:41.000 And this really, I think, backs up a lot of what you've heard me say over the years, that the Cold War was a dialectic.

03:21:45.000 In fact, Atali draws for you a pyramid with two pillars.

03:21:49.000 He doesn't draw this, I'm saying he draws it in the text.

03:21:51.000 So I drew it for you, and he says that the Cold War was this pyramid in the middle with the US dollar as the power structure, and he says the two pillars next to that Are, if you think about Mason or Yakin and Boas, right?

03:22:08.000 The US pillar and the USSR pillar. 0.89

03:22:11.000 He says the fall of the Cold War eliminated this pillar.

03:22:14.000 And so now we have one order that is the future order that we're going into that is the technocratic order.

03:22:22.000 It's a very odd imagery, clearly a Masonic imagery that he's drawn for us in this chapter.

03:22:28.000 But again, here's where he fails.

03:22:30.000 He says Japan and the EU will run the New World Order.

03:22:34.000 Well, that surely hasn't happened.

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03:23:38.000 Welcome back to the fourth hour of the Auto Show.

03:23:41.000 I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer.

03:23:42.000 I'm Jason Ellis.

03:23:43.000 And we're talking about the very prescient text from one of the global elite technocrats, Jacques Attali, his 1991 book, Millennium Winners and Losers in the Coming World Order, with the foreword by Alvin Toffler.

03:23:57.000 And as I mentioned, the next chapter goes into discussing the possibilities of Europe or the EU, which had just been announced here at this time, right around this time.

03:24:10.000 And Japan being the future of the world order as America declines.

03:24:16.000 And that's an example of the global elite not always getting it right.

03:24:20.000 They don't have omnipotence.

03:24:23.000 They're not all-powerful.

03:24:24.000 They're not God.

03:24:25.000 They make mistakes.

03:24:27.000 They do plan way ahead.

03:24:28.000 That's what we see from these texts, these projections that they put forward for how to get to the end goal of the full technocratic order, which, as we know, in this book, goes into much more detail by saying that, look, the goal is to have everybody linked into a giant global brain, to have everybody controlled, tracked, and traced down to their very genetics.

03:24:50.000 And he calls it the Golem.

03:24:53.000 So, that's the goal, but we can see that this was planned, again, decades, many decades before.

03:25:00.000 And he thinks that whoever, again, controls transportation and technology in the future will be key.

03:25:06.000 However, he does note that it's hard to see how This will happen given the fact that Europe has a negative population growth rate.

03:25:15.000 So, I don't know how he thought that would happen.

03:25:17.000 He says, well, what we'll have to do is we'll collapse old Europe.

03:25:22.000 Old Europe must collapse, which is the very thing that General Wesley Clark said as well.

03:25:27.000 And it's also a part of the Kudinov-Kalergi Plan, which is not a conspiracy theory.

03:25:32.000 It's actually mentioned by Dr. Carol Quigley in his book, Anglo-American Establishment, that the Royal Society elite did choose to adopt the Kalergi Plan.

03:25:41.000 It's, again, it's an actual real thing, Count Kudinov-Kalergi, to destroy the existing European nation-states by population warfare. 0.76

03:25:51.000 So that's a real thing and it's discussed.

03:25:53.000 Atali doesn't mention clergy, he just mentions the destruction of the old order of Europe by replacing it with a whole bunch of new people. 0.61

03:26:04.000 He says this is connected to the new market order in democratic institutions which require pluralism.

03:26:12.000 Of course, it's all arbitrary because, well, what kind of pluralism?

03:26:16.000 I mean, what is America other than a social construct Who are you to say that you have something that all the migrants don't have, you see? 1.00

03:26:27.000 He says that what will be required is a sea change.

03:26:31.000 The winds of change must blow through all of the world post-fall to understand that we're entering into a global democratic order, they call it.

03:26:41.000 Of course, that doesn't mean anything related to... It's not.

03:26:44.000 It's just total oligarchic control.

03:26:48.000 That also reminds me of the Winds of Change song, which came out right around this time, which was actually a CIA operation.

03:26:54.000 If you don't know, you can look that up.

03:26:56.000 I think it was at Scorpions.

03:26:59.000 Take me to the magic of the moment.

03:27:02.000 It's a really annoying song, but that's actually a CIA-promoted song, When the Wall Fell.

03:27:07.000 The Winds of Change is the winds of Western liberalism blowing through and destroying supposedly its dialectical opposition, Soviet communism.

03:27:21.000 In fact, in this very chapter, Attali says that I was chosen to be the head of the institution in charge of integrating Eastern Europe into the, quote, New World Order.

03:27:32.000 The first pan-European institution, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, is a $12 billion bank which I will head.

03:27:42.000 This will be for integration into the European community, and this will be intending to construct a European common home Where the bank will play a similar role that the European coal and steel community in the 1950s played as a cornerstone of the integration into the European community.

03:28:02.000 If you remember, that was a key section in the Johan Ratu book on the Fabian Socialists that when the OSS and CIA understood that they would have to integrate Europe to control it, They utilized as their first front and outlet the European coal and steel community development.

03:28:19.000 So it was done via corporate control.

03:28:21.000 EU integration was a long-standing plan.

03:28:26.000 And the stability of this emerging European sphere depends on how well they control Germany.

03:28:32.000 A united and controlled Germany is key to controlling the EU, he says.

03:28:37.000 That's, of course, why the CIA has had such a crucial power control role in Germany since World War II.

03:28:47.000 It was a big part of the Ratio book as well.

03:28:47.000 And that's well known.

03:28:50.000 He says we are entering into the New form, the ninth market form, and it will be centered around some hinterland and periphery that is dominated in the way that he hopes to see the European Common Bank or whatever he's part of dominant.

03:29:07.000 So he's thinking, hoping that, I mean, He's hoping he's going to be, I guess, the king of the New World Order at this giant European bank.

03:29:14.000 Of course, again, that didn't happen.

03:29:16.000 So even though he was a very, I guess he still is, he's a very important technocratic person in the global power structure.

03:29:25.000 He's, you know, one of these technocratic elite planners that writes all these books like a Brzezinski or Kissinger.

03:29:31.000 He didn't end up becoming king of the New World Order.

03:29:35.000 Next he goes on to talk about the way this is always structured is that you have a sphere of control and you have a periphery.

03:29:42.000 So that's ironic because it's almost like it's still the imperial model.

03:29:46.000 The imperial model is of course that you have the center city state of the empire and then the colonies sort of bring in and feed the economic resources, the goods, the products to the center and then in exchange the monetary Blessings and the law, the Pax Romana, the Pax Americana then are supposed to filter out to the colonies that are in union with the Imperium.

03:30:17.000 The problem of course is that empires often fall due to the desire to take on more and more debt.

03:30:25.000 to sustain the engine of the Empire.

03:30:28.000 Now, it doesn't actually have to be that way.

03:30:30.000 There's nothing about an Imperium that necessitates that it has to constantly go into giant debt.

03:30:37.000 But what often happens is that because the Empire has the temptation to utilize the power of the central money control, that they can thus steal from the future generations via The debt-based money system, the fiat system.

03:30:53.000 The fiat system is basically stealing from the purchasing power of the future.

03:30:57.000 It's stealing the time, the wealth, and the energy of the people in the present and the future through the debasement of the currency.

03:31:05.000 So, it's such a temptation to empires that when empires get more and more corrupt in history, they invariably fall into debasing their currency because it's such an easy way to control and to steal.

03:31:21.000 So it's almost impossible to solve this problem when there's always the temptation to use that as the way out of a declining empire.

03:31:32.000 And thus, as the empire declines, the more it then debases and inflates its currency to pay off the debts which can never be paid because the interest just stacks up more and more and more.

03:31:43.000 That's where we are.

03:31:44.000 And Atalia is saying correctly that the exact same thing is happening to the American empire. 0.78

03:31:50.000 And it can never be fixed by more wars, more kicking the can down the road.

03:31:56.000 Eventually, the debt collapses the system.

03:32:00.000 Then he goes on to say a very powerful statement that by 2050, the world will have too many people.

03:32:08.000 We'll have 8 billion people.

03:32:10.000 He's actually wrong, because I think we're already, what, at 9 billion or something, supposedly?

03:32:15.000 And he says that the world can't sustain that.

03:32:18.000 So we always get into the sustainability claims that the world is overpopulated.

03:32:22.000 By 2050, there'll be too many people.

03:32:24.000 And he says that the United States will experience migration that will upset the cultural balance that will transform the very nature of America itself.

03:32:35.000 It will sever it from its Anglo-Saxon European origins and turn it into something else.

03:32:41.000 The notion of a gigantic melting pot is not without basis.

03:32:44.000 Europe is likely to have troubles as well.

03:32:47.000 The logic of the continual integration and the long bloody tradition of ethnic and national rivalries and chauvinism and xenophobia will continue. 0.84

03:32:56.000 However, mass migration from Africa might solve these problems.

03:33:04.000 These migration nomads will be regulated since the rationalized continual flow of migrants will seem to be advantageous. 0.96

03:33:11.000 Advantageous to who?

03:33:13.000 to the corporate elite that run it, to restructure and to reintegrate and to remake Europe into something else.

03:33:25.000 So, in other words, to have an EU, you've got to get rid of Germans, Italians, French, Poles, etc. 0.89

03:33:35.000 You must have a continual open border model to create a gigantic homogenous melting pot That is the true EU.

03:33:46.000 He says that the workers and the planet will have to figure out ways to integrate into the new green economy.

03:33:55.000 The future will be based around pollution and carbon taxes, carbon emissions, and carbon being controlled because of course carbon is just human life forms.

03:34:07.000 He says that There's too many people, and there's too much carbon dioxide, there's too much coal, oil, and natural gas, and that this is actually destroying the ozone layer, which is all a bunch of nonsense.

03:34:21.000 So, he says that the only way to get around this is to figure out ways to radically depopulate.

03:34:25.000 Every global elite person says all the exact same things.

03:34:29.000 Depopulation, population control, megacities he talks about.

03:34:34.000 He says that if we don't deal with this and get to Less population and less carbon emissions.

03:34:42.000 This is the same propaganda all these idiots have said.

03:34:45.000 In the near future, many key ocean cities will sink.

03:34:52.000 So if you're in New York or if you're in the cities in Florida, on the coast, coastal cities are about to sink in the next couple decades.

03:35:01.000 Again, How many of the global elite goons have said that all the cities are going to be sinking?

03:35:07.000 It's all baloney and they all end up buying coastal property because the idiots buy into that and then sell their property and then these people buy it up.

03:35:16.000 Green Marxism, Green Socialism, Green Fabianism is the future.

03:35:21.000 He says eventually the European countries will introduce carbon taxes.

03:35:27.000 Taxes on breathing and emitting carbon dioxide.

03:35:33.000 The emissions of North America and Europe have only fallen slightly.

03:35:37.000 Chlorofluorocarbons are heating up the atmosphere, melting the ice caps, and we're going to sink the coastal cities.

03:35:45.000 Again, fake crises.

03:35:48.000 And he says that the future will be a world where ethnic and racial division comes back.

03:35:58.000 There will be huge opposition between Islam and Christianity in the coming world order.

03:36:02.000 Of course, that was what Bernard Lewis and Samuel P. Huntington also predicted, because they're all part of the same global structures.

03:36:09.000 They were planning and strategizing the future Western civilization conflict with, quote, Islam. 1.00

03:36:16.000 And he says that this is based around racism.

03:36:20.000 Wait a minute, I thought there was two different religions.

03:36:22.000 I know it's racism if you're against Islam, apparently.

03:36:26.000 Nomadic Devices is where he kind of concludes this work, and this is where we get into the elements that are so important for predicting the transhumanist future that he wrote about in his 2006 book.

03:36:40.000 This lets us know that the things that are rolled out, you know, the devices that we have, a lot of this is planned for social control.

03:36:49.000 No, there's nothing inherently wrong with the devices or the technology, but that it's literally there, too, as William Binney, the famous architect of many of the NSA programs, said in his famous whistleblower interviews with Richard Grove and others, that the purpose of these NSA developments and the technology coming out of that which gave us the internet is quote total human control.

03:37:12.000 That's the purpose.

03:37:13.000 It's not to free you.

03:37:14.000 It's not to allow you to have your small business at home.

03:37:18.000 We have all those things and those are great advantages and blessings, but that's not the ultimate goal of all this.

03:37:24.000 The ultimate goal is that as Atali says, the hyper industrial age will give rise to the nomadic devices That will sever us from our root, and from our sense of ourselves, and from our meaning, and from our situatedness, right, in some culture, in some religion.

03:37:45.000 This will give us new relationships to city, to the family, to life, and even to death.

03:37:53.000 He's saying that these devices will come to take on a almost divine, semi-divine status, and they will get smaller and smaller over time.

03:38:01.000 Remember when he was writing this in the 1990s, computers were gigantic, you know, 200 pound things you had to lug around.

03:38:11.000 And now an entire computer is smaller than this, right?

03:38:17.000 He says this is going to continue to get smaller and smaller and more advanced to the point to where it becomes an implantable microchip or some sort of nanotechnology.

03:38:26.000 He says that whoever is around the centers of the new tech will be the centers of the new wealth and the new power of the future.

03:38:33.000 He says again, remember that the previous empires and city-states always collapsed due to debt.

03:38:39.000 Excess debt always leads to excess inflation, bankruptcy, and an ultimate collapse.

03:38:47.000 This occurs when businesses are able to apply new technology to services previously outside of the market and thereby transform all the commodities into something cost-efficient.

03:38:56.000 Thus, new technology is the engine of the new wealth creation.

03:39:00.000 So, wherever we find the new wealth creation and the new tech is where you need to look for the future of power structure.

03:39:10.000 There was a push for higher education in the 1950s in America.

03:39:13.000 This was done in response to the Soviet claims about the launch of Sputnik, and thus Americans saw the need to create a great many universities all over, such as the University of California.

03:39:26.000 In the 1960s, the birth of Medicare confirmed the right to health care for all men and women, and this would actually come to exert enormous strains on the federal budget.

03:39:37.000 At the same time, the military costs continue to escalate in the Cold War and the build-up to Vietnam.

03:39:42.000 Thus, more and more America took on greater projects, greater centralized planning projects, and greater and greater debt, such that an awareness that the debt could not be repaid led to the financial chaos and crisis of the 1980s and the savings and loan crisis.

03:40:02.000 When it was realized that the debts could never be repaid, major banking institutions Historical patterns emerged whereby we began to see the boom-bust cycle repeat, and it became evident that more and more debt was promoted on purpose to sustain crazy lifestyles, or the American consumerist lifestyle, and that no one was saving their money anymore.

03:40:28.000 So the promotion, as you heard even Tucker say earlier, of college kids being hooked on credit cards, And getting greater and greater debt was all by design to convert Americans over into living under debt slavery and the acceptance of living under debt slavery, which had already occurred in the 1980s when they figured out that the U.S.

03:40:52.000 debt can't be repaid.

03:40:56.000 Then people were just sort of defaulting into a nihilistic abandon to want and to desire The latest consumable objects that are also replaced within a few years, such as stereos, CDs, VCRs, and even computers.

03:41:14.000 So, it's not about quality products anymore.

03:41:18.000 It's about a model of planned obsolescence to further the engine of consuming.

03:41:27.000 The growth of debt, in turn, deepened the crisis by generating sustained further growth of services to manage the debt.

03:41:34.000 This was then handed over to banks of all kinds, was proliferated, and then we got giant debt bubbles, banking bubbles, debt bubbles.

03:41:46.000 And he says that if you look back to the history of other civilizations, for example, what allowed Amsterdam to become The World Power City State at that time was because they invented a new faster boat called the Flyboat in 1590.

03:42:01.000 The Flyboat allowed Amsterdam to become extremely wealthy.

03:42:06.000 And he says, if you want to project this example into the future, history is full of these.

03:42:11.000 And the economic renewal of the future will be centered around whoever introduces mass application of new technologies that reduce the cost of social demands Through substituting products and services.

03:42:25.000 Bitcoin.

03:42:28.000 The technology that will permit this future form is more and more connected to the microchip.

03:42:36.000 The future will be a borderless world based around the control of information.

03:42:43.000 InfoWar.

03:42:44.000 Big data.

03:42:46.000 And the flow and privacy of information is the future.

03:42:50.000 Robotics will continue to take control and will rise to the ascendancy to become the workers of the future.

03:42:57.000 The real growth in the future industries will take place as services are replaced, and including education, by screens and objects.

03:43:07.000 You're going to be taught by, this is what he wrote in the 2006 book too, your own AI companions.

03:43:14.000 They will be the medium between you and the outside world.

03:43:18.000 The future AI will be, this is rolling out now, right?

03:43:23.000 That will be what educates you.

03:43:25.000 That will be what does the work and the services.

03:43:29.000 Atli says in 1991, the rise of AI will determine a lot of these service sectors.

03:43:38.000 He says, eventually all of your information will be stored on various chips or cards.

03:43:43.000 And they will either be a card that you carry or a chip eventually that's implanted in you.

03:43:49.000 He says that the key thing to look at in the future is the cell phone.

03:43:53.000 In 1991, Atelier was telling you about the cell phone.

03:43:58.000 He says that you might think that in this future world where everyone sort of is nomadic and works from home or works on their devices, which is where we are, exactly what happened.

03:44:08.000 He says, you might think that there will be much more time for leisure.

03:44:11.000 No, in fact, everyone will work far more in the future than they do in the present 40-hour workweek.

03:44:18.000 He says, this mass tech society will produce mass standardization even to the point where in the future we'll have an AI doctor who will diagnose you and will replace eventually human doctors.

03:44:33.000 AI will be proficient enough to diagnose you better than a human.

03:44:38.000 And in fact, even beauty standards will suffer because the cults of the future will have homogenized and idealized views of beauty.

03:44:50.000 You might even argue that that's not even true, that actually it becomes the worse.

03:44:54.000 It becomes that the more and more ugly you are, the better for your fitting into that order because that's what's required by standardization.

03:45:03.000 So making everyone fat and ugly actually standardizes In a much more efficient way for efficiency and consumerism than a model where people are trying to shoot for some sort of idealized body, be it male or female.

03:45:20.000 Citizens of this fast world will expect immediacy, but they will have to work very hard to have any autonomy.

03:45:29.000 Advancing your career will depend upon maintaining constant levels of new degrees and education.

03:45:37.000 There will be no future for any unskilled labor because they will all be replaced by machines.

03:45:43.000 Rise of the machines.

03:45:46.000 There will be, however, a proliferation of health clubs, fitness clubs, self-help books, and constant ongoing adult education through university extension courses.

03:45:58.000 He was right about all that.

03:46:01.000 The future cultural image and ideal will be that of the movie star, or we might say now the influencer, right?

03:46:08.000 Or the TikTok, Instagram influencer.

03:46:13.000 They will become the future celebrities that people try to shoot for to become, and society will have to invent new scapegoats to be the bad men, the demonized class, or whatever.

03:46:26.000 He says it might be people who are out of shape or something like that might be considered dead.

03:46:31.000 No, he got that part backwards.

03:46:33.000 So it's actually we're going to the future where fat acceptance and so forth.

03:46:39.000 He says the objects of the future that you will wear will control and monitor your heartbeat, your blood pressure, your cholesterol.

03:46:50.000 He says the future will be a nomadic One where everyone is dominated and ruled by their screens.

03:46:58.000 Screens.

03:47:02.000 Even cancer treatments and surgery will eventually be done and administered via AI machines.

03:47:13.000 These nomadic objects will allow children to learn and all of their knowledge, their pedagogy will be done through screens and AI.

03:47:23.000 Humans will just sort of default to trusting the AI and allowing their children to be raised by these machines and allow people will then live by proxy.

03:47:35.000 You won't need to go visit a place.

03:47:37.000 You will just look and see what that place is like on a screen.

03:47:41.000 Thus, humans will be manipulated by images and screens.

03:47:45.000 Tomorrow's children were learned by a computer teacher rather than a human.

03:47:50.000 Now he goes on to say many more things, but I want to remind you that I'll be live June 22nd in Las Vegas.

03:47:55.000 Hopefully this isn't the last InfoWars broadcast, but if it is, I've been very honored.

03:47:59.000 Please follow me over on X, support Alex and the show at InfoWars Store, and I hope to see you in the future.

03:48:06.000 When I look at Bitcoin as a historian, I don't like it because this is a money built on distrust.

03:48:16.000 The central idea of Bitcoin is basically electronic gold.

03:48:20.000 That we don't trust the banks, the governments, so we don't want to give them the ability to create as much money as they like.

03:48:30.000 So we create this Bitcoin.

03:48:32.000 It's a currency of distrust.

03:48:35.000 Of you.

03:48:35.000 I do think that the future belongs to electronic money.

03:48:39.000 But what we've seen over the last centuries is that it's actually a good idea to give banks and governments the ability to create more and more money for themselves in order to build more trust within society.

03:48:56.000 So I'm not sure what money would look like in 20 years or 30 years, but I hope it will be a currency of greater trust and not a currency of distrust.

03:49:10.000 Finishing up, you all know Harari and just how full of crap he is as an economist.

03:49:14.000 You as an economist watching him.

03:49:16.000 So I'm watching that and I'm thinking, is this guy absolutely nuts?

03:49:20.000 I mean, he is a smart guy.

03:49:21.000 He's evil, but he's a smart guy.

03:49:23.000 How could he say that printing money is going to bring trust when so much in our society right now is people can't afford to eat, they can't afford to pay their mortgage or their rent or buy food or do anything, right?

03:49:38.000 Inflation doesn't bring trust.

03:49:41.000 He's misusing the word trust.

03:49:44.000 Because what he's actually saying is, hey, when we print money, we're going to be able to give you Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, handouts, stimulus.

03:49:55.000 We'll raise the debt ceiling to keep this game perpetuated.

03:49:59.000 We'll do all of this stuff.

03:50:01.000 And so then the people will say, Trust?

03:50:05.000 It's like, I'll tolerate you because you're giving me free stuff.

03:50:05.000 What?

03:50:09.000 That's not trust.

03:50:11.000 That's accepting they're garbage because they're giving you free stuff.

03:50:15.000 That comes with printing of money excessively.

03:50:18.000 So, misuse of the word trust, because I don't think he's a dumb guy.

03:50:21.000 I think he's evil, beyond evil, who has no respect for human life.

03:50:27.000 They just said that we're going to continue to print money.

03:50:30.000 We're going to continue to make people dependent on the government for all of their needs, because the government wants to take the place of God in people's lives.

03:50:42.000 And that statement, when you dissect what he said, that's what he's saying.

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03:51:32.000 What did he just say?

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