Alex Jones Show - 20240617_Spaces_Alex

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00:06:35.000 And we are live.

00:06:44.000 Guys, appreciate you guys joining in.

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00:06:49.000 We've got none other than Alex Jones on the space.

00:06:53.000 We're going to be speaking about all of the things that have been happening to him in the last few weeks.

00:06:59.000 Including the possible closure of Infowars.

00:07:04.000 And you know how our space is.

00:07:06.000 We're going to speak to Alex.

00:07:07.000 He's going to answer.

00:07:08.000 He's going to explain things.

00:07:09.000 He's going to tell us what's happening.

00:07:11.000 But more than that, you may have some questions yourself.

00:07:14.000 You may disagree with him.

00:07:16.000 And so we are going to be going down that road for sure.

00:07:19.000 Alex, thank you so much for taking your time out to join us.

00:07:21.000 Alex, did you need to unmute your mic?

00:07:28.000 Right, button up inside.

00:07:30.000 Sorry, I apologize.

00:07:31.000 Thank you for having me.

00:07:32.000 I gave you an amazing intro.

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00:07:35.000 I apologize for messing it up.

00:07:37.000 All good, all good.

00:07:38.000 Sorry, Alex.

00:07:39.000 So, I mean, thank you so much for joining us.

00:07:43.000 I mean, look, we've been hearing about what's happening to InfoWars.

00:07:46.000 I know you did a couple of spaces yourself.

00:07:48.000 You did a number of shows yourself.

00:07:50.000 But just let people know, from your perspective, First of all, an overview of what's happening and then we'll ask specific questions about who do you think's behind this.

00:08:00.000 Anyway, go ahead, Alex.

00:08:01.000 Well, that's a huge subject.

00:08:03.000 I mean, I want to be honest with you.

00:08:05.000 Last night after my daughter went to bed, my youngest daughter, me and my wife sat around the kitchen table and I said, I cannot believe what just happened.

00:08:13.000 And I can't imagine what President Trump is going through.

00:08:15.000 So there's so many little pieces to this, but bottom line, Judge Chris Lopez is a very respected federal judge in Houston, and that's where our bankruptcy was assigned two years ago.

00:08:29.000 And so it's not the judge's fault.

00:08:31.000 The way the court system works is there's trustees and chief restructuring officers that are in the pool that basically rotate through, they get picked for the case.

00:08:45.000 And if you don't object to them, They get assigned.

00:08:48.000 Well, the plaintiffs that we now know are total, you know, the controllers, the plaintiffs, the law firms are deep state.

00:08:55.000 Let's come out in court.

00:08:57.000 They approved of these U.S. 0.93

00:08:59.000 trustee that works for the Justice Department and for the chief restructuring officer, who I later learned were like flaming leftist, you know, anti-Trump, anti-Alex Jones.

00:09:08.000 So they come in the last two years and they try to, the CRO tries to set me up.

00:09:14.000 Secret court filings.

00:09:16.000 I'm stealing money.

00:09:18.000 The judge sends in high-level third-party investigators and accounting firms at my expense.

00:09:27.000 We're talking a million plus bucks, three groups.

00:09:30.000 They tear everything apart, do forensic accounting, and come back and say, no, there's no money hidden.

00:09:35.000 Jones didn't do this.

00:09:36.000 So then I go through all this because the media is like, oh, Jones is hiding money.

00:09:41.000 He's a criminal.

00:09:42.000 He's Al Capone.

00:09:44.000 And I only filed for bankruptcy because I was out of money with a whole billion and a half dollar judgment that was rigged, where both judges in Texas and Connecticut found me guilty for supposedly not giving over, you know, evidence and discovery, but I gave them everything, so they found nothing.

00:09:59.000 So instead they default me.

00:10:01.000 HBO runs a huge production in both trials with makeup and scripts.

00:10:05.000 It's a movie set.

00:10:07.000 I mean, this is next level.

00:10:09.000 Weaponization.

00:10:10.000 And the CIA, we now know, was involved.

00:10:12.000 They were beta testing this whole thing of weaponization.

00:10:14.000 So, two Fridays ago, now about 16 days ago, 17 days ago, it's 5 o'clock, I'm about to leave the office, I've done my show, most of the crew's leaving, and I notice there's more security guards there.

00:10:28.000 I have a private security company I've used for years.

00:10:30.000 I said, what's going on?

00:10:31.000 They're like, we don't know.

00:10:32.000 We're told something's coming up tonight at 9 o'clock.

00:10:34.000 So I call my lawyers.

00:10:35.000 They go, hey, we just got word.

00:10:37.000 They're locking the doors at 9 o'clock tonight.

00:10:39.000 We don't know how they're going to do it.

00:10:40.000 There's no court order.

00:10:42.000 Judge Lopez is not called for this.

00:10:44.000 The CRO does not have this power.

00:10:47.000 We don't understand this.

00:10:48.000 The CRO is just an advisor to the court.

00:10:51.000 And so I literally explained to them, showed them the law, stopped them closing it.

00:10:56.000 He then, with the next security crew, same company the next day, tries to shut it down again.

00:11:01.000 His name's Pat McGill.

00:11:03.000 So I have to sleep up there for three days, and then the media's like, oh, it's not happening.

00:11:09.000 But then on Monday, the plaintiff's lawyers, Democratic Party, same group suing Trump, same group suing Giuliani, top law firm out of New York and Houston, they go in and file that Monday, now two weeks ago today, to shut me down.

00:11:25.000 And their reason was, he's crazy, he claims he's being shut down, total gaslighting, so we're gonna shut him down right now.

00:11:32.000 The judge said, no, we're gonna have a 14th meeting to decide.

00:11:35.000 They then filed a 14th hearing to take my real Alex Jones and ex, that's AP Reuters, they filed to take the company over and close the doors last Friday, three days ago.

00:11:48.000 So everybody's got that, okay, see, Alex Jones wasn't crying wolf.

00:11:52.000 They wanted me kicked out, fired.

00:11:54.000 And the judge said under federal law, it's an LLC, I'm the owner.

00:11:58.000 He said, I can't even override that.

00:12:01.000 If it goes into receivership, I can do it.

00:12:02.000 But he goes, he told the CRO, who do you think you are?

00:12:05.000 10 times.

00:12:07.000 He said, under law, you do not control this company.

00:12:11.000 And Mr. Jones acts in good faith.

00:12:13.000 You've had two years to investigate him.

00:12:15.000 You never filed a lawsuit.

00:12:16.000 You never made a claim.

00:12:17.000 because he's beginning the secret filings this guy files saying I'm a

00:12:20.000 crook the judge has been giving my lawyers that even though this guy

00:12:24.000 thought it would keep it secret so it's clear the Justice Department other

00:12:27.000 groups are manipulating this and the US trustee the Justice Department works

00:12:32.000 with him and and basically she also called for us to be closed Friday so

00:12:37.000 they 100% did this and Judge Chris Lopez very respected top of the class you know

00:12:42.000 top school, he said, "We're not doing that."

00:12:46.000 I'm not shutting down InfoWars.

00:12:48.000 I'm giving Mr. Jones back his company.

00:12:51.000 trustee got up and the other lawyers and said, we pray your honor, which is the old way to say it.

00:12:51.000 And the U.S.

00:12:56.000 The old courts are a temple.

00:12:58.000 They said, we pray to you.

00:13:00.000 We pray to you, your honor.

00:13:01.000 So they're really worshiping him.

00:13:04.000 And they say, we pray to you to not give it back to him.

00:13:07.000 He's a crook.

00:13:08.000 He's bad.

00:13:08.000 He's evil.

00:13:09.000 And the judge says, sit down.

00:13:10.000 I've heard enough from you.

00:13:11.000 So this is all I was in the courtroom.

00:13:14.000 And the federal courts aren't like state courts where there's cameras, but there's a transcript, it's public.

00:13:18.000 He goes, I've heard enough from you, sit down right now.

00:13:21.000 And he says, Pat McGill, I've got one more order to you, the CRO.

00:13:24.000 He goes, you're to hand Mr. Jones' bank accounts back today.

00:13:28.000 It's his company, you are removed.

00:13:31.000 And so that was the real victory that I'd already liquidated all my assets the last two years, already sold extra stuff.

00:13:39.000 So when they hear, oh, Jones had to liquidate, that's in my personal, that was already done.

00:13:43.000 So the media spun that.

00:13:44.000 I didn't care about a lake house and a little farm I had.

00:13:47.000 I never even went there.

00:13:48.000 I was too busy.

00:13:49.000 So that, that was my move too.

00:13:51.000 It's just, you get it all on the line, we're done.

00:13:54.000 I'll give these plaintiffs the money.

00:13:55.000 The plaintiffs got up and said, we don't want money.

00:13:57.000 We want to shut him down again.

00:13:58.000 And the judge says, that's outrageous.

00:14:00.000 It's not in the federal government, not in the U.S.

00:14:02.000 Constitution, not in Congress's laws to do that.

00:14:05.000 So he excoriated them.

00:14:07.000 No less than 10 times, because that's a real judge.

00:14:11.000 That's why the media was attacking him and had him in my company back.

00:14:15.000 Now they're going to attack me in the state courts and try to take control of the company.

00:14:20.000 But he kept control through a new trustee he put in over my personal, because I'm the real owner of the company.

00:14:26.000 And it just so happens, this amazing, respected special person, the term would be receiver, Uh, would be trustee was just showed up there.

00:14:40.000 Never met him.

00:14:41.000 Everybody's like, well, this guy's really respected and he'll actually follow law.

00:14:45.000 And so now I don't have these low level people that got pushed up by the Justice Department put in.

00:14:49.000 I've got a respected guy that's fair with the judge.

00:14:52.000 He's retained control and I hate to sit there and kiss the judge's ass, but he's just following the law.

00:14:57.000 And so this is a major devastating move against them because America, the judge even said during this, 30 minute closing statement, which he never does.

00:15:08.000 It was like something out of Kill a Mockingbird.

00:15:09.000 It was powerful.

00:15:11.000 He said, hopefully this type of behavior changes with the election.

00:15:15.000 He was appointed by Trump.

00:15:16.000 He said, hopefully this type of behavior ends with the election because he's, they were crazy enough, guys, to introduce transcripts of my show two weeks ago, where I talked about the CRO calling me when he filed a secret report against me, saying I was stealing money.

00:15:30.000 He calls me and denies he did it.

00:15:32.000 So I record him.

00:15:34.000 Saying he never did it.

00:15:35.000 Well, the judge had that filing.

00:15:37.000 And I recorded him doing all this stuff.

00:15:38.000 I filed it in the court.

00:15:40.000 The judge had never listened to it.

00:15:42.000 They were dumb enough to demand over lunch he read the transcripts.

00:15:46.000 So he read the transcripts and he came back and asked, is it true you tried to close his business two weeks ago?

00:15:52.000 They said, yes, your honor.

00:15:53.000 There were guns in the building.

00:15:55.000 Well, we have concealed carry.

00:15:57.000 We have private security.

00:15:58.000 And the judge goes, what do you mean?

00:15:59.000 They go, well, there was a crosshair.

00:16:01.000 The judge said, did somebody threaten you?

00:16:03.000 No.

00:16:03.000 The judge said, I've heard enough.

00:16:04.000 You're done.

00:16:06.000 So they were literally acting like we had guns pointed at them.

00:16:10.000 They were literally saying I was going to steal money.

00:16:12.000 They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

00:16:15.000 And for the first time in six years of me being under lawfare, a judge finally literally stomped on their tail.

00:16:26.000 I'm going to ask you a few more questions, but I just want to let the audience know because I was like, you know when I heard you talking about the fact that people want to shut you down, I was like, really?

00:16:37.000 And I know you were one of the four people that ADL didn't want back, right?

00:16:43.000 Obviously I did a bit of journalism, you know, and I went to quite a few of the student encampments.

00:16:48.000 And there's various encampments, some have a lot of people from the right, some have a lot of people from the left, some have a mixed bag.

00:16:54.000 And one of the encampments I went to was very much people from the left.

00:16:59.000 And they were asking me some questions like, you know, who have you, you know, who have you co-hosted before?

00:17:03.000 And I said, look, like people like Alex Jones and Andrew Teh.

00:17:06.000 And as soon as I mentioned, I mentioned a few other names as well, but as soon as I mentioned yours and Tate's name, they were literally, took me out of the camp.

00:17:12.000 They didn't even let the boys ask the questions, even though they're part of the same team.

00:17:16.000 So I get the fact that, like, I see the level of emotions that come from people who don't like you, Alex, as well as Andrew Teh.

00:17:24.000 So, I mean, coming back to it, so now we understand what has happened up to now.

00:17:30.000 Let me ask you a question before I ask what's going to happen next, and then I will bring some other people in as well.

00:17:35.000 Who do you think specifically behind this?

00:17:38.000 Well, that's a great question, but let me just segue for a moment.

00:17:40.000 Anybody can search my name, and the headlines are fake, but buried in Reuters, AP, Bloomberg, they admit, okay, there was a plan to shut it down.

00:17:50.000 They thought there was a threat.

00:17:52.000 Okay, they did try to shut it down at this hearing and the next hearing.

00:17:55.000 Three hearings, they tried to shut me down the last two weeks.

00:17:57.000 And I get, to me, I didn't believe that the private security firm, bonded, that I'd used for seven years, armed guards, big company, you know, here in Austin, my personal security and some of my friends, were ordered to close the doors 16 days ago, two Fridays ago, without a court order.

00:18:16.000 I get, that didn't seem real to me.

00:18:18.000 I mean, the judge said, what are you doing?

00:18:20.000 You can't, you can't shut his company down.

00:18:22.000 He told them that Friday.

00:18:24.000 Just three days ago.

00:18:25.000 So I know who did this, okay?

00:18:29.000 And it hid in plain view, because I didn't understand all this until they had the fake judgments by the judges who found me guilty, which you're not supposed to do in America or anywhere, really.

00:18:37.000 And then the jury set up, you know, how guilty I was, hearings on damages.

00:18:43.000 They have the head FBI agent in Connecticut at the time, who was the chief counsel of the FBI, so the head of the FBI in Connecticut, He got up in the Connecticut show trial two years ago in November in Connecticut.

00:18:56.000 It's on video and I can pull it up.

00:18:58.000 And he said to their own lawyer, how'd you get involved?

00:19:03.000 What'd you do?

00:19:04.000 And he said, well, I heard about people questioning Sandy Hook and I got one phone call asking if I was really an FBI agent.

00:19:14.000 So I went to Toscoff and Koskoff, this big democratic firm, and I organized the families and we sued Alex Jones.

00:19:21.000 He won $95,000,000.

00:19:25.000 Look it up.

00:19:27.000 FBI agent wins $95,000,000 against Alex Jones.

00:19:30.000 Never said his name.

00:19:31.000 Never knew who he was.

00:19:32.000 None of my hosts said his name.

00:19:34.000 Wasn't on my website.

00:19:35.000 My lawyer said, did he ever say your name?

00:19:36.000 No.

00:19:37.000 His host ever say your name?

00:19:38.000 No.

00:19:38.000 Ever been on his website?

00:19:39.000 No.

00:19:40.000 Ever talked about him?

00:19:40.000 No.

00:19:41.000 So, this guy testifies.

00:19:43.000 Just type in, FBI agent wins $95,000,000 against Alex Jones.

00:19:48.000 You'll see his picture and everything.

00:19:51.000 He organized it all.

00:19:52.000 Then they get that undercover video, the Project Veritas spinoff, two months ago, three months ago, of them saying, former FBI, current CIA, we ran this.

00:20:01.000 Well, I knew that.

00:20:02.000 I mean, I have a family member that's in Asia this week on a trip, business trip.

00:20:07.000 They were in Thailand and then in Japan.

00:20:11.000 One morning they get up, front page of the paper's me.

00:20:13.000 They go to Japan, front page of the paper's me the next day.

00:20:17.000 This is just last week.

00:20:20.000 It's like they're invading a country.

00:20:21.000 I'm not that important.

00:20:22.000 It's about destroying free speech, scaring everybody else off, and putting the fear of God into people of a billion and a half dollar judgment, if you question narratives, because they're planning new Jussie Smollett narratives, new things.

00:20:35.000 Whether we're right or wrong, they don't want us questioning them.

00:20:37.000 So then, here's the worst part.

00:20:40.000 They said this in mediation two years ago, and again three months ago.

00:20:43.000 And my lawyers told me, you can't talk about it, it's in mediation.

00:20:46.000 So I didn't do it.

00:20:47.000 Didn't violate the court rules.

00:20:49.000 So the federal courthouse two months ago in Fort Worth, federal mediation in a courtroom, federal judge, like the most official type there is.

00:20:57.000 This is a court mediation, this is not a regular mediation.

00:20:59.000 This case is so big.

00:21:02.000 They get up, and I can only talk about it now because they told my lawyers the next week in a non-mediation, the same stuff, they said, listen, we know Jones doesn't have all this money.

00:21:11.000 If he just comes out against the Second Amendment and some other things, we will leave him alone.

00:21:16.000 And my lawyer said, excuse me?

00:21:18.000 So my lawyer calls me and says, Hey, you can talk about this now.

00:21:21.000 They just admitted it on the telephone in a conference that it was about trying.

00:21:26.000 They thought I was about the money.

00:21:28.000 So they thought if they did this, they didn't want money at the courthouse steps.

00:21:33.000 They literally thought I would finally become their creature.

00:21:36.000 And now they're finding out there's no price tag on Alex Jones.

00:21:39.000 So, this was 100% run by the State Department, the CIA, and the Justice Department as a beta test, just like the State Department, CIA is running the censorship, the control, the ADL is their lapdog.

00:21:52.000 I'm the big target because they said, that's a big populace.

00:21:55.000 He, just like the FBI agent, CIA agent said, he's the loudest voice, he was the lead elephant.

00:22:02.000 It's not that I'm that important, it's just that I was the biggest up front six, seven years ago.

00:22:07.000 Now it's Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, above that Elon Musk.

00:22:11.000 So I'm kind of, you know, a backbencher now.

00:22:14.000 I mean, I'm still reaching tens of millions a day, but nothing compared to Elon or, you know, Joe Rogan.

00:22:18.000 But that's what happened.

00:22:19.000 I was picked because I had 30 million viewers a day, every day, seven years ago.

00:22:25.000 And so I did have the biggest show of political talk in the world then.

00:22:28.000 I don't mean like 30 million had impressions.

00:22:30.000 I mean, I had 30 million people on radio, TV, and dialing in, 10 million a day on my website.

00:22:36.000 We could see their IP addresses.

00:22:38.000 So they went, holy hell, this guy is popular.

00:22:41.000 We better shut him down.

00:22:42.000 But it didn't work because the emergency transmission already got out.

00:22:45.000 But this was run by Obama's Stay Behind Network in the Defense Authorization Act of 2017.

00:22:53.000 Which they, you know, funded the year before, before he left office, in the Countering Foreign Disinformation Propaganda Act.

00:22:58.000 And I talked to a top U.S.

00:23:00.000 Senator yesterday, in person, in Detroit, who pulled me aside.

00:23:04.000 I won't say names.

00:23:05.000 And said, tell me about this.

00:23:07.000 And I explained it.

00:23:07.000 He goes, yeah, we know that.

00:23:09.000 We're getting ready to go after him.

00:23:10.000 We understand the networks.

00:23:12.000 And they just, they said, how did you know this?

00:23:13.000 I said, well, I read the legislation.

00:23:15.000 So the good news is, Trump is aware of this.

00:23:19.000 Trump knows what's going on, and so they're in a lot of trouble now.

00:23:22.000 That's why they're so scared.

00:23:23.000 Not of retribution, not of prison, not of us trying to hurt them, but the fact that they committed this coup against America.

00:23:31.000 So, one last question, then I will bring some more people in.

00:23:35.000 You kind of explained it, and you've alluded to it, but where do you think this is going to go next?

00:23:41.000 Well, they're totally desperate with 140 days left to the election.

00:23:46.000 And...

00:23:47.000 I'm not that important.

00:23:48.000 They just chose me because I was popular and flamboyant and did some quirky stuff.

00:23:54.000 They thought they could pull that out of context, you know, gay frog stuff, and then say this guy's a lunatic, and then once people accepted... There was a Wall Street Journal article six years ago.

00:24:04.000 It was like a 30-page article, and it was a subscription article that said, we're going to shut down Julian Assange.

00:24:11.000 When the left doesn't defend him, we'll have the left.

00:24:14.000 And we're going to shut down Alex Jones.

00:24:15.000 If they don't defend him, we'll have them all.

00:24:17.000 And NATO was actually involved in the meeting.

00:24:19.000 It was in the Wall Street Journal.

00:24:21.000 And so that was their plan.

00:24:25.000 And so I don't see this as me as being that important.

00:24:30.000 I see it as I've been designated as a test case.

00:24:34.000 And so they're like, well, we can't even get rid of the test case.

00:24:37.000 Get him.

00:24:39.000 They kind of see me as the first target.

00:24:41.000 And so because I haven't fallen because of all your support, They just keep doubling down, doubling down, but now it's kind of like Stalingrad, where you've got 5 million Germans and 7 million Russians, and they just decided to slug it out in that one city.

00:24:55.000 They could have fought anywhere in Russia, there were a bunch of other cities on the line, but the Russians and the Germans decided to slug it out at Stalingrad, and Alex Jones is basically Stalingrad.

00:25:06.000 So it's not me, I'm just the chosen...

00:25:09.000 Myself and Trump are the chosen battlegrounds in the social war, and they thought Trump's goofy, he can be discredited, Jones is goofy, and I am goofy.

00:25:19.000 But it didn't work, because I am goofy, people realized I'm real.

00:25:22.000 And so now, not even me, but my name, and who I am, has become this archetype of this tug-of-war battle.

00:25:29.000 Does that make sense?

00:25:31.000 I have a quick question that I'd like to ask Alex.

00:25:35.000 You said that the judge reprimanded the attorneys for the Sandy Hook parents, or I'm sorry, yes, for the Sandy Hook plaintiffs.

00:25:45.000 In what way did the judge reprimand them?

00:25:48.000 Because I don't recall that in listening to that portion.

00:25:54.000 So how did the judge reprimand that attorney?

00:25:58.000 Did you listen to the whole eight hours?

00:26:02.000 No.

00:26:04.000 Well, he does it very elegantly.

00:26:06.000 He told them, sit down, I've heard enough from you.

00:26:10.000 He said, I'm not going to shut Alex Jones down.

00:26:13.000 If you don't want money, I'm not going to shut him down.

00:26:15.000 He followed the law.

00:26:16.000 Because what they can get is money under their judgement.

00:26:18.000 They don't want money, they want to shut me down.

00:26:21.000 He, on both our motions, to not appoint a special Chapter 7 over me in my private bankruptcy or in InfoWars, They said, we pray.

00:26:33.000 That's the ancient tongue.

00:26:35.000 That's English coming along.

00:26:36.000 We pray you don't give him his bank accounts back, and the judge did.

00:26:42.000 So, if you don't know legal parlance, my lawyers or top lawyers said they've never seen such a slaughter.

00:26:49.000 And you said that Donald Trump is aware of this.

00:26:52.000 In what way do you think Donald Trump would be able to help you in this case?

00:26:57.000 Well, Trump is the big lion with a thousand hyenas on him.

00:27:01.000 I'm a smaller lion with 10 on me.

00:27:03.000 So I don't, I didn't say, I said Trump, I may miss what you're saying, but Trump and the Republicans understand that I'm patient zero in this attack.

00:27:13.000 So, uh, I don't know that I said Trump was going to help me in this.

00:27:18.000 I think the judge did.

00:27:18.000 No, you said that Donald Trump is aware and that this is happening because of the election.

00:27:26.000 So in what way Donald Trump being elected, would that help you with this particular case?

00:27:31.000 Yeah, but you said I said Donald Trump was going to help me.

00:27:33.000 I didn't say that.

00:27:33.000 No, I asked you in what way was Donald Trump going to assist.

00:27:36.000 No, I'm trying to help Donald Trump.

00:27:37.000 I'm trying to help America.

00:27:39.000 I'm not here as a soldier in the information war on my own.

00:27:43.000 Trump's the big general.

00:27:44.000 I'm just a sergeant.

00:27:47.000 I want to bring in, thanks Alex, I want to bring in Brian.

00:27:48.000 The judge said, "Hopefully this all changes with an election."

00:27:52.000 And the judge, people should go find, because there's a transcript, you're not supposed

00:27:56.000 to record federal court, and I didn't record it.

00:27:58.000 I know people probably did.

00:27:59.000 But people need to go read the eight-hour transcript.

00:28:02.000 I want to bring in, thanks Alex, I want to bring in Brian.

00:28:09.000 Brian, you posted on Twitter, if I remember right, some not so very positive words about

00:28:18.000 I think and I do correct me if this is not what you said because I didn't look at it a while ago.

00:28:22.000 I don't really look at your page.

00:28:23.000 Something along the lines of you doubt the veracity of Alex's claims.

00:28:29.000 Do you want to expand on whatever your point was if that wasn't your position?

00:28:29.000 Is that right?

00:28:34.000 I'm sure I've said a lot over this last couple of years.

00:28:37.000 Alex probably knows that.

00:28:38.000 Go ahead!

00:28:40.000 Yeah, so I guess My position is that you are... Can you hear me or no?

00:28:47.000 Can you hear Krasnithine?

00:28:49.000 No, I can't hear Krasnithine.

00:28:51.000 Oh, God bless you.

00:28:52.000 Anyway, Brian, I'll bring you back down.

00:28:54.000 I'll bring you back up.

00:28:55.000 I can hear him now.

00:28:55.000 I heard him now.

00:28:57.000 I'm going to bring him down.

00:28:58.000 I'll bring him back up.

00:28:59.000 Oh, he's gone.

00:29:01.000 God bless us all, maybe then.

00:29:03.000 Jokes.

00:29:03.000 Jokes, Sarah.

00:29:04.000 I know it's your boy.

00:29:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:08.000 Go to everybody's favorite liberal, Jared.

00:29:13.000 I want to go to that.

00:29:15.000 Oh, no.

00:29:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:18.000 Brian, can you speak?

00:29:20.000 See if Alex can hear you?

00:29:21.000 Yeah.

00:29:21.000 Hey, can you hear me, Alex?

00:29:27.000 Alex, can you hear Brian?

00:29:28.000 No, I can't.

00:29:29.000 It's very strange.

00:29:31.000 Are you sure?

00:29:32.000 Are you sure you're not kidding?

00:29:33.000 Let me put myself on hold and do it again.

00:29:37.000 Okay.

00:29:40.000 Should I drop you down, Alex, and bring you back up?

00:29:42.000 Yeah, do that.

00:29:44.000 Yeah, I'll drop Alex down and bring him back up.

00:29:46.000 So it's removed from speakers.

00:29:50.000 And then I'll bring Alex back up.

00:29:52.000 That way Brian will get a chance to ask his question.

00:29:58.000 In the meantime, Sarah, I heard there's a some reminder you need to say while I'm bringing Alex up.

00:30:13.000 Yes, yes.

00:30:14.000 You're so good at it.

00:30:15.000 You're the best at it.

00:30:16.000 I am the best at that.

00:30:17.000 Just a reminder to turn on your notifications for Mario.

00:30:23.000 He does have a newsletter.

00:30:24.000 It's pinned in the top and a Telegram channel, so be sure to subscribe to that for up-to-the-minute news and breaking spaces.

00:30:34.000 Alex, are you able to hear now?

00:30:36.000 Yeah, I hear you speaking.

00:30:38.000 I hear Brian.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, I hear him now.

00:30:39.000 Go ahead.

00:30:44.000 Hey, Alex.

00:30:46.000 I have several questions, but I'll just limit it to one for time purposes.

00:30:52.000 I've seen lately a lot of people on X and on other social media platforms claiming that since the creditors are coming after you and these people are coming after you for all this money, this crazy amount of money, that you must have been onto something when it came to Sandy Hook.

00:31:11.000 In court, you admitted that you were wrong about Sandy Hook.

00:31:14.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:31:15.000 I'm pretty sure, right?

00:31:17.000 Can you tell these people that you weren't going to do anything and that you clearly got it wrong when it came to the Sandy Hook victims?

00:31:25.000 Yeah, Brian, I'm glad you bring this up.

00:31:27.000 And again, I can call my house while I have Wi-Fi.

00:31:30.000 I'm out here in my car just because my kids are running around.

00:31:32.000 You guys getting good audio for me?

00:31:34.000 Yeah, you're good.

00:31:36.000 Okay, let me explain something, Brian, to you, okay?

00:31:39.000 And this is the truth.

00:31:41.000 I am not the Sandy Hook man.

00:31:43.000 I did not make money off these people.

00:31:46.000 They entered 22 minutes of evidence into the Texas and Connecticut trials that were completely choreographed, where I was already found guilty by judges in default, claiming I didn't give discovery, which was not true.

00:31:57.000 I gave four years of discovery.

00:31:59.000 They found nothing in there.

00:32:00.000 I didn't make money off of them.

00:32:02.000 That was a lie.

00:32:03.000 Now, about a year into Sandy Hook, which was a blip on the radar, I'm sad it happened, There were professors in Florida and Wisconsin and California and a school safety official named Wolfgang Halbig that put out all this information claiming it didn't happen.

00:32:25.000 I then, because it had hundreds of millions of views on YouTube, it was a huge story, did one debate and five shows on it.

00:32:32.000 Before they sued me, I didn't talk about it for over three years.

00:32:37.000 I stopped having these people on.

00:32:40.000 Because I learned they were either paid to act like this or they were crazy.

00:32:46.000 They were going to like Catholic schools and stuff six, seven years ago before I got sued, believing the kids were still alive and doing all this stuff.

00:32:54.000 And I learned some of the stuff they said was not true.

00:32:59.000 So, so I was already saying and having debates with them seven, eight years ago before they sued me, Saying, no, I think Sandy Hook happened.

00:33:12.000 Then the media went, oh, Jones is weak.

00:33:14.000 He's backed off this.

00:33:16.000 Let's claim he made this up.

00:33:18.000 And they hired PR firms to run thousands of articles in 2016, 2017, 2018, before they sued me, claiming I was currently peeing on graves, going to their houses, sending people and I never did any of that and no evidence

00:33:33.000 was put on about that.

00:33:34.000 So that's the reality.

00:33:36.000 So you tell me, get people to stop saying it didn't happen.

00:33:40.000 They were saying it before I ever said, "Oh, I can see your point.

00:33:44.000 Yeah, they lied about WMDs, you know, all Jussie Smollett, all this.

00:33:49.000 Yeah, maybe it's fake." 0.78

00:33:50.000 And I didn't say that in the current tense.

00:33:52.000 I'm repeating what I said earlier.

00:33:54.000 So I thought they literally wanted an apology.

00:33:55.000 So I said, "Yeah, I think your kids died."

00:33:58.000 They went, "Oh my God, we've got you."

00:34:00.000 I mean, again, why do I have friends and people that go to foreign countries and they open up the newspaper in Japan and it's about my court case currently.

00:34:13.000 It's like we're invading Iraq or something in 2003.

00:34:19.000 Why is the number one thing on every channel for weeks, me and Sandy Hook?

00:34:24.000 because it's about making me the Sandy Hook guy to make the popular Sandy Hook guy.

00:34:29.000 And because everybody, most people don't trust the media and the government now, I see it everywhere.

00:34:35.000 People mad at me saying, "Oh, they got to Jones."

00:34:39.000 He's saying it happened.

00:34:42.000 I said that five, six years ago, Brian.

00:34:45.000 Just quick follow up.

00:34:49.000 And I appreciate you giving me a response there.

00:34:52.000 So, you were found liable.

00:34:55.000 They gave a $1.4 billion reward, I believe.

00:35:02.000 You do admit that you lied, you didn't tell the truth about Sandy Hook.

00:35:07.000 Whether you got deceived by others, whether you didn't, it doesn't really matter because that defamation doesn't really follow that.

00:35:15.000 But if you were to say, do you think you should pay them anything?

00:35:20.000 And if so, what would be fair?

00:35:22.000 Well, Brian, Brian, Brian, let's respond to your incredibly weasel-like statement.

00:35:28.000 And you know, exactly.

00:35:28.000 I'm asking you a simple question.

00:35:30.000 No, no, no, no.

00:35:31.000 You don't want the answer?

00:35:32.000 Let him respond and you ask your question.

00:35:35.000 Go ahead, Alex.

00:35:36.000 Yeah, yeah, Brian.

00:35:38.000 If I'm wrong about a stock market pick, Or I was wrong about Jussie Smollett.

00:35:43.000 I said Jussie Smollett day one stage, and I was right.

00:35:46.000 Okay?

00:35:47.000 So, if I'm wrong about something when I covered other people covering it, I'm not lying.

00:35:56.000 I've never lied on purpose about news and information.

00:36:00.000 But it was more than that, though.

00:36:02.000 You're not letting me finish?

00:36:03.000 You're not letting me finish?

00:36:04.000 You have to admit you said more than just covering other people.

00:36:07.000 You made statements as fact, right?

00:36:11.000 Hey, why don't you restate your question again, because I forgot the second part.

00:36:14.000 You're not letting me finish.

00:36:16.000 It's not lying to say, yes, I thought there was some anomalies.

00:36:21.000 I thought it may not have happened.

00:36:22.000 And then I questioned it.

00:36:23.000 You try to keep me on the horns of that.

00:36:26.000 When I said five, six years ago, before I was sued, that I thought it happened.

00:36:30.000 I'm on record.

00:36:32.000 I questioned it.

00:36:33.000 It was my First Amendment right.

00:36:35.000 This is all about destroying the First Amendment.

00:36:37.000 I explained that.

00:36:38.000 Now to answer your second question.

00:36:40.000 They have spent, in the bankruptcy hearing alone, they have filed in federal court $34 million in two years trying to find me in a crime to put me in jail.

00:36:52.000 They're so pissed I'm clean.

00:36:54.000 They spent $25 million in the four years previous prosecuting their lawsuits and claimed in court I had hundreds of millions of dollars hidden.

00:37:04.000 Remember all that?

00:37:05.000 I was going to go to jail.

00:37:07.000 None of that was true.

00:37:09.000 The judge has seen the private investigations he put in.

00:37:12.000 I've been through the whole ringer.

00:37:13.000 None of it was true.

00:37:15.000 This has been a giant media extravaganza and the whole Sandy Hook combine of PR firms, Democratic Party, has used me for years in Facebook and Google and Twitter and X ads to raise money off my name To take a popular talk show host who was already number one six years ago and take a few things I said out of context to maybe the Sandy Hook man so they own my identity and raise money off of me.

00:37:42.000 They didn't want to take $55 million in a settlement, which is more money than I've ever made personally.

00:37:47.000 And the judge talked about that Friday.

00:37:50.000 They want to use me as the bad guy, as the villain coming after them to raise political contributions to their gun control groups.

00:38:02.000 And that's the truth, Mr. Krasnistin.

00:38:06.000 Brian, let me ask you a question.

00:38:09.000 When you're reporting, I mean, sometimes, obviously, I agree, someone might be doing it deceptively, but sometimes you can just get the information wrong, right?

00:38:17.000 Like, I don't know which one of you two brothers, but didn't you guys Did any of you guys claim that there was an Iranian passport or didn't one of you guys claim that there was Jihad day or something?

00:38:26.000 So like, doesn't sometimes happen that a person gets misinformation or it relays the information in a manner that they think isn't problematic but could be problematic?

00:38:35.000 So the way defamation works is that if you go out of your way to say something that's not true, and you know it's not true, or you maliciously attack them, or if you didn't take the proper precautions in reporting it.

00:38:52.000 I mean, Jones clearly stated that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation.

00:38:57.000 He didn't say, these people are saying it.

00:38:59.000 He said, Sandy Hook was a false flag operation.

00:39:03.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:39:04.000 Because you didn't answer me.

00:39:06.000 Are you denying that in Texas and Connecticut, the judges found me guilty by default and then had show trials damages?

00:39:13.000 Are you denying?

00:39:15.000 You mean liable, right?

00:39:16.000 Not guilty.

00:39:16.000 No, the judges found me guilty without a jury.

00:39:20.000 And let me go further.

00:39:22.000 Who should we get in trouble for lying about WMDs?

00:39:26.000 Which both Democrat and Republican Party weren't known was true.

00:39:29.000 See, you guys sit there and act like I... No, but that's a separate situation, though.

00:39:33.000 Saying that the federal government did something is different than saying that these children that died... Listen, listen, listen.

00:39:40.000 I don't want to talk about this.

00:39:41.000 I was invited on the show to talk about this.

00:39:43.000 Well, I'm just trying to explain the difference.

00:39:45.000 I mean, there's a clear difference in saying, oh, the federal government... Krasnostein, Krasnostein, listen to me.

00:39:50.000 You asked, you asked, Krasnostein, you asked, Krasnostein, you asked a question.

00:39:56.000 Do I feel like they should be paid money?

00:40:00.000 No, I believe this is all a political thing to demonize the First Amendment and scare other people from asking questions about future narratives.

00:40:06.000 That said, I offered them $55 million three months ago, more money than I've ever made in my life, certified by federal court in 30 years on air, $55 million that I would try to pay them over 10 years And they said, we don't want your money on the courthouse.

00:40:26.000 They said, we want him shut down.

00:40:30.000 So you said, oh, do they owe anything?

00:40:32.000 They don't want $55 million.

00:40:34.000 They want me silenced because they don't want people to be able to hear what I have to say for future narratives.

00:40:40.000 When they launch a nuclear war, or a false flag.

00:40:43.000 Who's they?

00:40:44.000 They is the families.

00:40:46.000 Oh, the families!

00:40:46.000 It's a Democrat party law firm.

00:40:48.000 Excuse me, why is that?

00:40:49.000 I didn't care about what you had to say.

00:40:51.000 No, they didn't want... Listen, say it's the families.

00:40:54.000 They didn't want $55 million.

00:40:56.000 They didn't want $55 million.

00:40:58.000 They say, I won't pay the money.

00:41:00.000 $55 million, they said no.

00:41:01.000 I've talked to Krasinski enough.

00:41:03.000 Weren't they asking for $85 million in November, according to the AP?

00:41:08.000 They offered to settle for $85 million, that is the Sandy Hook families.

00:41:12.000 $85 million over 10 years, with 50% of anything earned over $9 million.

00:41:18.000 So it sounds like you guys were close to a settlement.

00:41:26.000 Yes or no?

00:41:27.000 Is that correct or incorrect?

00:41:28.000 Alex has dropped.

00:41:29.000 I think he's got technical issues.

00:41:32.000 So, Suli, I'll respond to you.

00:41:37.000 So there's a difference in saying something about WMD to the government, about the government, or are you saying when the government lied about WMD?

00:41:46.000 Yeah, because Alex's argument is this, Brian.

00:41:49.000 Alex's argument is this.

00:41:50.000 He's saying that basically your or many others, many people who disagree with him are magnifying

00:41:56.000 the fact that he, according to him, reported incorrectly, according to you,

00:42:01.000 lied about an incident, the Sandy Hook incident happening and that it was fake. And

00:42:05.000 his argument is that actually, we've seen during our times much more significant, deadly

00:42:13.000 lies, such as the WMDs, which took the lives of millions of people in the Middle 0.78

00:42:20.000 East, and yet there has been no action for those people who lied.

00:42:26.000 There's been no trials for those people who lied.

00:42:30.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:42:31.000 Massive coverage.

00:42:34.000 Massive non-stop coverage of Alex Jones.

00:42:37.000 He's the only devil.

00:42:38.000 So let's say this.

00:42:39.000 I didn't do it on purpose.

00:42:40.000 I'm not a bad person.

00:42:41.000 I just question things.

00:42:43.000 Let's just say I'm Satan.

00:42:44.000 I didn't kill anybody.

00:42:46.000 Why aren't we talking about the COVID shots?

00:42:48.000 Why aren't we talking about the fentanyl?

00:42:50.000 Why aren't we talking about the human trafficking?

00:42:51.000 Why aren't we talking about the millions dead in Iraq?

00:42:53.000 Why aren't we... You know, it's all about Alex Jones!

00:42:55.000 They're not mutually exclusive though.

00:42:57.000 You can talk about it all, you know?

00:42:58.000 Like, it's... They did that... Who's going to trial... No, Brian, the argument isn't this.

00:43:03.000 It's not about... So, who's going to trial...

00:43:06.000 Yeah, but at some point, can we move on from Crazzy Steen?

00:43:09.000 Can we go to Chase Geyser or somebody else?

00:43:10.000 the reason behind it, but who, like, because no one has, what his argument is, is, by the

00:43:15.000 way, I'm just trying to relay his argument and I'll let you respond to it because that's

00:43:18.000 between you two.

00:43:19.000 Yeah, but at some point, can we move on from Krause's thing?

00:43:21.000 You got to like Chase Geyser or somebody else, because I don't mind, but Krause's team just

00:43:25.000 isn't enough.

00:43:26.000 Yeah, Chase is not here.

00:43:27.000 Tell him to request, I'll bring him up.

00:43:28.000 Go ahead, Brian, I'll let you finish, you can make your last point.

00:43:32.000 But you get the argument, yeah, Brian?

00:43:33.000 I get the argument, but you're basing your argument off of something the government did

00:43:40.000 versus what a private citizen did in a defamation case.

00:43:43.000 Exactly!

00:43:44.000 Why don't we have the government in trouble for lying on purpose, on record?

00:43:47.000 Both should be true.

00:43:49.000 Both can be true, right?

00:43:50.000 Yeah, but why am I focused on thousands of articles a day?

00:43:54.000 Why doesn't the media cover lies about WMDs or lies about poison shots?

00:43:58.000 That was 15 years ago, though.

00:44:01.000 Oh, Gain of Function was 15 years ago?

00:44:03.000 The COVID lockdowns were 15 years ago?

00:44:05.000 You're just distracting from the... No, I'm not distracting!

00:44:08.000 You're distracting me, Brian, though.

00:44:10.000 Why is time... Why is there a limitation on time?

00:44:14.000 Again, so that's what we... If you want to interview with Krasny, you can go ahead.

00:44:16.000 But you're just distracting from the whole point of the conversation.

00:44:20.000 Just follow me on Real Alex Jones, folks.

00:44:22.000 You'll hear what I'm actually saying.

00:44:23.000 Krasny, it must be good to serve the devil. 0.83

00:44:25.000 Okay, okay.

00:44:27.000 We're just going to go to someone else.

00:44:28.000 Krasny, you got your point across.

00:44:30.000 Let me go to Chase.

00:44:32.000 Chase, I mean, I think your part of info was as well when you... Chase wasn't in the court.

00:44:38.000 That's one of the... Chase, you were there for eight hours.

00:44:40.000 What'd you see?

00:44:41.000 Yeah.

00:44:43.000 Yeah, it was the first time I've ever been in a courtroom like that.

00:44:46.000 So it was an amazing experience.

00:44:48.000 Some of it was really boring, as you'd imagine.

00:44:50.000 Other parts of it were very riveting.

00:44:52.000 And Alex said it best earlier in this space, the final speech from the judge was a lot like the end of To Kill a Mockingbird.

00:44:59.000 It was emotional.

00:45:00.000 I believe the judge lost his father in the last few months and he was upset that it was Father's Day coming up.

00:45:04.000 I mean, it was a very solemn, serious, edge of your seat kind of dynamic and ultimately It's very obvious that the plaintiffs in this case, whether they're right or wrong, that that issue is a side issue.

00:45:20.000 It's very obvious that their desire is to make it impossible for Alex to be on the air in any way, shape or form.

00:45:29.000 So they filed a motion, for example, to try to take his personal Twitter account, which is basically unprecedented as far as I understand it.

00:45:35.000 And yes, it is the case that they offer an $85 million deal with, you know, all sorts of stipulations that were untenable for us.

00:45:42.000 And we counted with 55, but ultimately it's very obvious that if they're spending millions upon millions of dollars and we're trying to settle with them and they want to liquidate everything for less than 10 or less than $5 million worth of gear and hardware.

00:45:57.000 here that the objective is to silence Alex.

00:46:00.000 So, regardless of what you think about Alex or his statements in the past, or whether he got the story wrong, or whether he was intentionally lying, regardless of what you think about that, I do think that there is a real issue here when the civil courts can be used to totally eradicate a person's ability to speak to an audience that wants to hear what they have to say.

00:46:18.000 That's what's so troubling to me about this, regardless of all of the emotional details and issues around this case.

00:46:26.000 Chase, what were the terms that were untenable as far as the $85 million suit?

00:46:33.000 You did a good job breaking this down.

00:46:35.000 We didn't record it.

00:46:36.000 I wish it was out there.

00:46:37.000 How many times did the judge explain?

00:46:39.000 Remember them saying two weeks ago, nobody's shutting it down, Alex is making it up?

00:46:43.000 They then, the plaintiffs, the U.S.

00:46:45.000 trustee, all of them admitted we're trying to shut him down.

00:46:48.000 Right now they said guns in the building, like we're terrorists.

00:46:52.000 I mean, this was insane.

00:46:56.000 Absolutely.

00:46:57.000 And Alex could speak on this better than I could, but Sarah, to answer your question, I believe they wanted to put a board of directors in here, for example, to manage the company and sort of dictate what Alex could say or not say on air.

00:47:07.000 That's the type of stuff that we specifically, Alex, was unwilling to tolerate.

00:47:12.000 But Alex, please correct me if I'm wrong.

00:47:13.000 A board of directors to run InfoWars?

00:47:15.000 Is that correct?

00:47:18.000 To my lawyers outside of mediation.

00:47:20.000 They said, listen, we want you to not defend the Second Amendment.

00:47:23.000 And I said, tell them what else they want.

00:47:25.000 I wanted to see.

00:47:26.000 And it was, well, we'll give you a big list.

00:47:27.000 So it was basically, I would become their creature.

00:47:29.000 No money.

00:47:30.000 Keep it forward going.

00:47:32.000 And then they would just let me operate as long as they had a board of directors.

00:47:35.000 That's the scandal that Kravitz's team doesn't want to talk about.

00:47:38.000 They literally wanted me to be their creature.

00:47:41.000 So at the end of the day, that's what happened.

00:47:44.000 And that's what they did.

00:47:45.000 The judge said, I'm not shutting down Alex Jones.

00:47:48.000 I'm not doing this for you.

00:47:49.000 So finally, we had an honest judge that said, no, this is tyranny, folks.

00:47:54.000 I mean, tell him a few other observations, Chase, because you're really good at explaining it.

00:47:58.000 You're only in the room like four hours.

00:47:59.000 You're outside doing interviews.

00:48:02.000 How many times did you see the judge say, Alex Jones owns this, and the CRO Hey Alex, I'm more than happy to talk to you about any of those things you want to talk about.

00:48:11.000 I didn't come here to talk about those though, but go ahead.

00:48:13.000 I mean, this was happening.

00:48:15.000 Hey Alex, I'm more than happy to talk to you about any of those things you want to talk

00:48:19.000 about.

00:48:20.000 I didn't come here to talk about those though, but go ahead.

00:48:22.000 No, I mean, I was like, it's ridiculous.

00:48:24.000 A quick point of information question for you, Alex.

00:48:26.000 I mean, the judge woke up to it and the media didn't know how to spin it.

00:48:30.000 You got any comments on that, Chase?

00:48:31.000 We'll go to the next person.

00:48:32.000 Hey, just really quickly, Chase.

00:48:35.000 Alex, can you hear other speakers?

00:48:36.000 I guess Chase is gone.

00:48:38.000 No, he can't hear me.

00:48:39.000 I'm still here.

00:48:40.000 Sully?

00:48:40.000 Chase, what other observations about, hey, how many people hated me versus the crowd showing up to support us?

00:48:47.000 That's what they're scared of.

00:48:49.000 That was certainly an observation.

00:48:51.000 19 out of 20 people that saw us were very supportive of Alex.

00:48:56.000 I didn't realize, Alex, how popular you were until we went to Detroit this weekend.

00:48:59.000 I couldn't believe how you were swarmed in every public place.

00:49:01.000 Alex and I, I've been working for Alex for a year now, and I've never actually been in public with Alex, just at work.

00:49:07.000 And it was really astounding to see.

00:49:09.000 It was almost like rock star level stuff.

00:49:11.000 And I arranged that to let the globalists know.

00:49:13.000 They already know this.

00:49:14.000 They've lost.

00:49:15.000 And it wasn't just the TPUSA with Trump and JD Van, so that was a great inside baseball.

00:49:21.000 It was, what, in the bars, on the street with black folks.

00:49:25.000 I mean, look, you say 19 out of 20, one person said, I hope you kill yourself.

00:49:29.000 Everything else was love.

00:49:30.000 So it was 1,000 to 1.

00:49:33.000 Hey Alex, a quick point of factual clarification.

00:49:37.000 Alright, well, Millie Weaver, I haven't talked to her in 3-4 years.

00:49:40.000 She's been an InfoWars reporter.

00:49:41.000 I don't think he can hear you, Michael.

00:49:43.000 I don't think he can hear you, Michael.

00:49:44.000 Can you hear me?

00:49:45.000 Michael, I'll drop you down and bring you back up.

00:49:46.000 Let me go to Angelo.

00:49:48.000 Angelo, go ahead, jump in.

00:49:50.000 Hey, thanks for bringing me up.

00:49:52.000 I'm kinda coming off of a 102 degree fever, so you're gonna have to forgive me, but... Stand here, Angelo.

00:49:58.000 Oh, you can't hear me?

00:50:00.000 Can you hear me, Alex?

00:50:06.000 I don't hear Dan or Angelo.

00:50:08.000 Hey, can you hear me?

00:50:10.000 We can drop the speakers.

00:50:11.000 He can't hear anybody.

00:50:12.000 Angelo, were you going to make a general point or did you want to specifically ask Alex a question?

00:50:17.000 He can't hear us.

00:50:18.000 Let me leave again and come back.

00:50:20.000 I'll go now.

00:50:21.000 Yeah, no problem.

00:50:22.000 Let me leave.

00:50:23.000 Angelo, were you going to make a general point or did you want to specifically ask

00:50:28.000 Alex a question?

00:50:29.000 Well, I wanted to make a point, not specifically ask Alex a question, but I hear what everybody

00:50:37.000 is saying and I'm not really fully in tune with the whole controversy and the court case

00:50:43.000 and all that, but I will say that this axiom by which the deep state is going after Alex

00:50:50.000 Jones on the Sandy Hook thing.

00:50:53.000 It doesn't really matter whether or not there are suspicious aspects or whether or not Alex specifically targeted the victims of Sandy Hook.

00:51:00.000 He did not, and there are suspicious aspects of Sandy Hook.

00:51:03.000 You know, whether it's the evacuation drills that don't make sense with the official footage that was recorded or the bulldozing of the site or the alleged shooter, anything like that.

00:51:14.000 That's really besides the point.

00:51:15.000 What really matters is this is a direction by which the Deep State is trying to take down Alex Jones.

00:51:20.000 And so long as...

00:51:22.000 That is the perfect example, everyone, on why InfoWars is so dangerous, using the First Amendment to protect itself.

00:51:30.000 Because if you really look at, we're all missing the fact, we're talking deep state, CIA, blah blah blah, look at my right hand while everything that's important is in my left.

00:51:41.000 Number one, Alex Jones created a video after the Sandy Hook shooting, and that video, he stated that Sandy Hook was a false flag attack.

00:51:49.000 He edited video, put video clips together, and he made it look like it was a false flag attack.

00:51:56.000 And then that video went viral, and many people started believing Sandy Hook was a false flag attack, when in fact it was not.

00:52:05.000 And this, that specific action, is what Who decides?

00:52:11.000 Who decides what's disinformation?

00:52:12.000 should be about. It doesn't matter if they're just out to get them to shut down Infowars.

00:52:16.000 As long as we have someone using their platform to spread disinformation to millions of people...

00:52:22.000 Who decides what's disinformation? That's the problem. Let me respond. Let me respond.

00:52:29.000 I'm almost there, may I have 30 more seconds? You're full of crap.

00:52:34.000 I want you to show you're a liar.

00:52:36.000 I want to respond.

00:52:37.000 Wrap up your point.

00:52:37.000 Go ahead.

00:52:38.000 Done.

00:52:39.000 Okay.

00:52:39.000 And to end my point, I mean, the main thing is the whole purpose of this was because that misinformation impacted the victim's families.

00:52:48.000 And if he wants to pretend he's innocent, I mean, that's totally cool.

00:52:51.000 I actually had a list of six questions that were not meant from a place of malice.

00:52:54.000 They're just questions to which people wanted to know the answers, such as, um, let's see.

00:53:00.000 No, I want to respond to the lie you already said.

00:53:06.000 Let me respond first.

00:53:09.000 It is on record that in the first year, I didn't say it didn't happen.

00:53:15.000 And he just lied and said, I created a video that created everybody questioning it.

00:53:21.000 No, there were hundreds of millions of views.

00:53:23.000 And let me finish.

00:53:25.000 There were hundreds of videos with hundreds of millions of views.

00:53:28.000 Someone had 100 million apiece.

00:53:30.000 Literally, 50 million, 20 million that were questioning everything that happened and everything that unfolded.

00:53:38.000 That is all I did was cover the internet.

00:53:41.000 I am not the first person that questioned Sandy Hook.

00:53:46.000 And I have a right to do that.

00:53:48.000 But he just lied and said, Mr. Jones created this.

00:53:53.000 Mr. Jones did this.

00:53:54.000 Now, I've since learned what really happened, and if you guys want to hear it, I've mentioned it for 30 seconds two weeks ago, and they flipped out and called and said, we'll settle.

00:54:05.000 Stop.

00:54:06.000 Don't say it.

00:54:07.000 Because I learned what really happened.

00:54:09.000 Real kids were killed, and it's in the police report, and the truth is so horrible, you can't even believe it.

00:54:17.000 It's in the police report.

00:54:19.000 That the police and EMS got there and they opened the bathroom door and there was a pile of dead kids perfectly piled up, a pyramid, and there was no blood.

00:54:28.000 And it's in the police report that they said the kids must have been moved there.

00:54:33.000 I was saying that.

00:54:34.000 Men in the woods in camo.

00:54:36.000 Helicopters.

00:54:37.000 Police drills.

00:54:37.000 I don't know.

00:54:38.000 They killed real kids and brought them to that closed school. 0.87

00:54:42.000 And I said that the first year.

00:54:43.000 And then the CIA, I believe, and 4chan put out the fake thing that nobody died so I would pick it up and set me up, just like with Pizzagate.

00:54:52.000 When it was in the actual documents of WikiLeaks with Aleister Crowley Rituals and John Podesta at farmhouses with pools with seven-year-old kids delivered for his enjoyment.

00:55:04.000 It's in the emails.

00:55:06.000 And then they said, oh, it's a pizza place in D.C.

00:55:09.000 That's where they do it because it wasn't happening there.

00:55:12.000 I only cover what was being covered.

00:55:14.000 And they turned around and said that I was sending people the pizza place and that I said it.

00:55:18.000 No, I covered CNN and The New York Times saying the pizza place.

00:55:22.000 Hey Alex, can I just ask you a very factual clarification?

00:55:23.000 its nest acts like its wing is broken. So you don't find its nest. That got set up

00:55:29.000 in Sandy Hook. They killed real children. And the police report and the EMT said they

00:55:34.000 went into a closed school and found a pile of dead bodies with no blood. That is in the

00:55:40.000 police report and they are scared of that and they don't want that covered. And I got

00:55:45.000 set up and it's coming out.

00:55:46.000 I want to ask you a very factual clarification. Alex, in one of the reports...

00:55:53.000 Okay, hold on, hold on really quick.

00:55:55.000 I'm about to blow your guys' minds.

00:55:57.000 I truly believe that there was a PSYOP that was targeting the Sandy Hook families as well as InfoWars, Alex Jones, and the many people, like Alex was saying.

00:56:07.000 I mean, this was a story that the whole internet was paying attention to, and the internet was calling out the many irregularities and things that were wrong with the reporting on this story.

00:56:19.000 Here, those of you guys who have your computers in front of you, I want you to look up the name Jonathan Lee Riches.

00:56:27.000 Type in Jonathan Lee Riches and Sandy Hook.

00:56:31.000 Your mind is going to be blown.

00:56:32.000 So a man named Jonathan Lee Riches, he actually showed up to the memorial site and he claimed that he was actually Adam Lazza's uncle.

00:56:42.000 Okay?

00:56:43.000 And he did all these interviews in the media.

00:56:46.000 He was photographed by all these media outlets, kneeling in prayer in front of the vigil.

00:56:52.000 And all these people were looking at these interviews and they're like, "This doesn't

00:56:56.000 seem right.

00:56:57.000 Something seems off here." 0.69

00:56:58.000 Right?

00:56:59.000 And that's partly what led a lot of people to actually go down this path of, "This seems

00:57:04.000 weird.

00:57:05.000 This seems staged.

00:57:06.000 Something's not right here." 0.51

00:57:07.000 Okay?

00:57:08.000 And that just ended up getting buried and no one ever, I guess you could say, fact-checked

00:57:12.000 There was no loud announcement that that happened.

00:57:14.000 But also, just to prove that this Jonathan Lee Riches is a character involved in many psyops on the people, He actually was involved in a PSYOP, if you look up his name again, Jonathan Lee Riches and George Floyd.

00:57:29.000 He actually was involved in a PSYOP where he posted a photo of himself wearing Make White Great Again as a MAGA hat.

00:57:37.000 That photo, he claimed in the post on social media, he claimed that he was Derek Chauvin.

00:57:42.000 the officer that knelt on George Floyd's neck.

00:57:46.000 And people circulated the image saying, "Look, the officer that knelt on George Floyd

00:57:51.000 was a white Trump supporter that was racist." 0.59

00:57:55.000 And the tweet was so viral.

00:57:58.000 No, this is not off.

00:57:59.000 This is insanity.

00:58:00.000 Can we end it?

00:58:02.000 Can we just have a constant monologue from InfoWars people, or can we actually have a dialogue?

00:58:07.000 No, I'm referencing things that you can look up to where you can actually see that there are psyops actors out there.

00:58:15.000 Just let her finish her point. 0.70

00:58:16.000 Let her finish her point.

00:58:19.000 One second, Millie. 0.88

00:58:22.000 Okay, Millie, maybe you can't hear anybody.

00:58:24.000 Millie, I'm gonna let you finish, but just like wrap your point up in 30 seconds.

00:58:27.000 Go ahead.

00:58:28.000 Okay, my point is that there are PSYOPs actors out there who have been engaged, and if you look them up, like Jonathan Lee Riches, he's in a multitude of different PSYOPs, and he did play a big role in fomenting a lot of uncertainty surrounding Sandy Hook.

00:58:46.000 So I'm saying that what I'm telling you right now, there's evidence that supports what Alex is saying.

00:58:52.000 that he and many others were targeted with a Psy-op so that people would pick up and run with stories

00:58:59.000 that later that would get them essentially caught up so to speak

00:59:02.000 because Ice Cube for example even retweeted the Derek Chauvin piece that Jonathan Lee Riches put out and it was

00:59:10.000 attributed to causing the riots in the George Floyd race riots.

00:59:14.000 Thanks for that Milly. Psy-op in deep state is fun in social media but it is not a different.

00:59:20.000 I am going to come to you guys.

00:59:21.000 Don't worry, I am going to come to people on the other side as well to give their argument.

00:59:26.000 Don't worry, there is going to be a balance.

00:59:28.000 Let me just go to Dan.

00:59:30.000 Dan, thank you so much for joining us.

00:59:32.000 Appreciate having you on.

00:59:33.000 What's your thoughts on the fact that there is an attempt to shut down Alex Jones?

00:59:40.000 Um, well, I haven't talked to Alex before.

00:59:43.000 We've got mutual friends.

00:59:44.000 I was actually coming on to hear his thoughts.

00:59:46.000 I mean, I've heard a lot of the Sandy Hook stuff.

00:59:48.000 I actually tweeted something about how ridiculous it was that, you know, they find him so much.

00:59:53.000 But I was kind of more curious as to what he thinks, you know, actually was the cause of this.

00:59:58.000 Because I'm pretty ignorant on the Sandy Hook thing, to be totally honest.

01:00:03.000 Alex, that was a question to you from Dan Bilzerian.

01:00:06.000 Are you there, Alex?

01:00:10.000 I mean, yeah, I have a question for Alex when he's back.

01:00:12.000 left hand side. Alright, Alex maybe can't hear us, he's just moving, shifting. Chase,

01:00:19.000 if you could find out where Alex is. In the meantime, let me go to Grant. Grant, I think

01:00:24.000 you were speaking before I went to Dan. Go ahead, Grant.

01:00:28.000 I mean, yeah, I have a question for Alex when he's back.

01:00:31.000 And it's a pretty serious question about the judgment, why they were sued, some of the things

01:00:36.000 he published.

01:00:37.000 And I'll make it discreet and specific, but you know, let's wait for him to come back.

01:00:42.000 Yeah.

01:00:43.000 In the meantime, before he comes back, like what's your, so what's your, okay.

01:00:48.000 So I understand your position in terms of like Sandy Hook and why the, um, why the judgment should be so high.

01:00:56.000 I guess my question to you is twofold.

01:00:58.000 A, why is the judgment so high?

01:01:00.000 And B, do you think that this is, uh, Do you think this is a... What do you call it?

01:01:09.000 Do you think this is a targeted attack on him?

01:01:11.000 Because when we hear the numbers, they are quite huge.

01:01:15.000 They are.

01:01:16.000 What's your thoughts on that?

01:01:18.000 Well, the court assessed what's called punitive damages, which is also called exemplary damages, right?

01:01:26.000 And the purpose of punitive damages and exemplary damages, they're kind of like two sides of the same coin.

01:01:34.000 is to deter the conduct that's being punished, right?

01:01:39.000 And it's actually to mete out a punishment.

01:01:42.000 So that's the whole point of the court process.

01:01:44.000 So second question, like I remember watching the trial many years ago,

01:01:49.000 and I mean, again, I don't know if you had this perspective, but I felt like the judge,

01:01:54.000 like maybe in America it's different, like judges are like very flamboyant

01:01:58.000 or very opinionated or whatever.

01:02:00.000 But in the UK, we don't have that.

01:02:02.000 Like a judge is just right down the middle.

01:02:05.000 They don't show opinion.

01:02:06.000 They don't show emotion.

01:02:07.000 You don't even know whose side they're going to be on.

01:02:09.000 When I was watching the trial and I was seeing like the judge literally attacking him, I know he made comments about the judge, but in the UK, Once the verdict is reached, the judge is no longer required to... No, during the trial, so before the verdict was revealed.

01:02:24.000 The trial was not held on liability.

01:02:27.000 It was only held on damages.

01:02:29.000 That's a different kind of trial than you're used to.

01:02:31.000 Let me just fully ask my question, right?

01:02:33.000 So, before the judgment was made, I was shocked, and maybe it's a UK thing, maybe US, you guys have judges who are literally, like, very opinionated, but I was shocked that, like, I knew what the judgment was, like, in the UK, I never had that, but I knew what the judgment was going to be, obviously based on the actions and the way the judge was communicating with Alex Jones' team.

01:02:52.000 Let me just pop in, let me pop in, let me pop in quickly.

01:02:55.000 I don't know why, because I've got full Wi-Fi, full five bars, it keeps hanging up, but I was able to dial back in here.

01:03:01.000 Listen, I'm going to explain it again.

01:03:03.000 Kill me if I'm wrong, folks.

01:03:05.000 The judges in Texas and Connecticut coordinated with HBO.

01:03:09.000 It was a full TV production with scripts.

01:03:11.000 They put out a show called Alex Jones vs. The Truth, and they literally... No, US judges don't act like that.

01:03:19.000 Just like UK judges don't.

01:03:20.000 They acted completely impartial, and totally attacked me, and found me guilty beforehand.

01:03:27.000 That's the key.

01:03:27.000 Whether I'm the worst guy ever, they are setting the precedent to take people's due process, and that is the point your listeners are making.

01:03:35.000 That is the point that happens.

01:03:39.000 Look, I'd like to ask you a question, Alex.

01:03:41.000 Go ahead.

01:03:41.000 Because I've got you here.

01:03:43.000 And the question is about intentional infliction of emotional distress.

01:03:48.000 Which both courts found you liable for, right?

01:03:52.000 I'm looking at some of the videos that you posted.

01:03:55.000 Here's one from 2018.

01:03:57.000 The title was, Sandy Hook Vampires Exposed.

01:04:03.000 Here's one, The Ultimate Sandy Hook Debate as the Second Anniversary Looms.

01:04:09.000 Sandy Hook, the lies keep growing.

01:04:12.000 Alex Jones responds to Sandy Hook anti-free speech lawsuit.

01:04:17.000 Creepy Illuminati message in Batman movie hints at Sandy Hook's school.

01:04:22.000 And these are all videos that you published that had hundreds of thousands of views.

01:04:28.000 Did at any point you not consider that you might be wrong there?

01:04:33.000 And how do you feel about actually knowing that you inflicted severe emotional distress on the people that filed these lawsuits and the court agreed with them and found you liable for that?

01:04:46.000 Well, what they did was raise massive amounts of money in PR firms.

01:04:52.000 I'm asking about you.

01:04:53.000 No, no, you're not letting me.

01:04:54.000 No, you asked the question.

01:04:55.000 You want the answer?

01:04:56.000 You've asked the question, let him answer.

01:04:58.000 Thank you.

01:04:58.000 Then people are saying, like, you know, I'm being biased or whatever, but I'm trying to make it balanced.

01:05:03.000 Yeah, you sit there.

01:05:04.000 But I can't have it where literally you ask him a question which he needs to give a detailed answer and then people interrupt him and not let him answer.

01:05:09.000 Like, that's bang out of order, right?

01:05:11.000 Like, you're asking very tough, hard questions.

01:05:15.000 He's being pretty cool that he's here answering those questions, so you need to let him answer, right?

01:05:18.000 So you've asked the question and nobody interrupted him.

01:05:20.000 Go ahead, Alex.

01:05:23.000 So, those videos, I'm very proud of.

01:05:28.000 If you go watch that, Sandy Hook Vampires, I talk about the lawyers manipulating the families and raising money off of their name and my name, and I say in that video, I believe Sandy Hook happened.

01:05:43.000 So you're taking headlines and you're manipulating what you think people believe off of the headlines.

01:05:51.000 By 2016, I was saying I believe Sandy Hook happened.

01:05:59.000 So you're taking videos where I go, Sandy Hook vampires.

01:06:01.000 I mean people feeding off Sandy Hook.

01:06:04.000 People living off it.

01:06:05.000 I don't want to ever talk about it again.

01:06:07.000 The families have said to their lawyers, we never talk about it again.

01:06:10.000 Great, they have HBO specials, they're raising money on my name, they use my face everywhere to say I'm attacking them to raise money.

01:06:17.000 I've actually told them, stop talking about me, I'll stop talking about you.

01:06:21.000 Again, we're not talking about WMDs in Iraq, we're not talking about nuclear war in Russia, we're not talking about the fake shots, we're talking about Alex Jones' fake news.

01:06:29.000 Which is a diversion from all the admitted controlled fake news put up by the Pentagon and the CIA against America and the world.

01:06:37.000 And that's what this is about.

01:06:38.000 He put all about Alex Jones.

01:06:39.000 All about him.

01:06:40.000 All about how he was mean to these families.

01:06:42.000 All about how he put them through distress.

01:06:44.000 And then they put on evidence with no evidence that I peed on graves.

01:06:50.000 Alex, that was the letter that one of the Sandy Hook parents received stating that a man peed on their grave, their child's grave, because they didn't believe that they were dead.

01:07:07.000 Nobody said that it was you.

01:07:08.000 Somebody said it was one of your many followers.

01:07:10.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:07:13.000 After I was found guilty without a trial.

01:07:15.000 You were found liable, not guilty.

01:07:18.000 Let's get that right.

01:07:19.000 No, I wasn't.

01:07:19.000 No, no, no.

01:07:20.000 You look it up.

01:07:21.000 The judges found me guilty of defamation without a jury trial.

01:07:26.000 You're so upset because it goes against jurisprudence and English common law, just like with the Trump campaign where he supposedly raped a woman with no evidence 30 years ago.

01:07:36.000 You're liable, Alex, not guilty.

01:07:38.000 They said I was... That means guilty.

01:07:38.000 No, no.

01:07:41.000 It's in the court ruling in Texas and Connecticut.

01:07:44.000 The judges found me guilty.

01:07:47.000 It says it in the court ruling and you can't deal with that because you know that exposes the fraud of the whole thing.

01:07:55.000 I was found guilty by a judge, not a jury.

01:07:57.000 I was found guilty.

01:07:59.000 Just let him finish his point.

01:08:01.000 One second guys, like literally let him, you can disagree with him.

01:08:04.000 Once he finishes his point, you can debate him and have your position.

01:08:07.000 Like literally three people have interrupted him now.

01:08:09.000 Let him finish his point.

01:08:11.000 Yeah, I'm here.

01:08:15.000 I gave them, I offered them $55 million to just leave me alone and they said no.

01:08:18.000 I'm here. I gave them, I offered them 55 million to just leave me alone and they

01:08:26.000 said no. We're gonna continue to say you're attacking us.

01:08:30.000 We're gonna continue to say you're after us. And on the news now, Alex Jones is

01:08:35.000 attacking us.

01:08:35.000 Alex Jones is after us.

01:08:36.000 Oh, here's all our fundraisers.

01:08:37.000 Oh, we're victims.

01:08:38.000 It keeps Sandy Hook in the news.

01:08:41.000 And no one knows the name, almost no one, of Adam Lanza, the guy whose mother bought him the AR-15.

01:08:50.000 Adam Lanza, who was an intern at the CIA, on record.

01:08:54.000 No one talks about whose house they bulldozed.

01:08:56.000 No one talks about Adam Lanza.

01:08:59.000 It's all Alex Jones.

01:09:01.000 I've had people in parking lots and at stores come up at least 10 times and say, F you, you killed those kids.

01:09:07.000 They believe I killed those kids.

01:09:10.000 And I didn't kill those kids.

01:09:12.000 So this is all a giant distraction to demonize populism and to demonize questioning the next big narrative.

01:09:18.000 So, I mean, I'm happy to talk to these folks all day long and debate them all day long.

01:09:24.000 But at the end of the day, man, I had my First Amendment.

01:09:26.000 What I said was misrepresented.

01:09:28.000 But if I said the things they claimed, I have a right to do it.

01:09:31.000 But I didn't do the things they said.

01:09:33.000 If people just subscribe at RealAlexJones on X, they will hear daily what the establishment is so scared of.

01:09:39.000 Look, Alex, can you give me your final answer?

01:09:41.000 Do you feel any remorse towards your victims?

01:09:45.000 Yes or no?

01:09:46.000 Do you feel any remorse for the victims of WMDs?

01:09:49.000 Yes or no, Alex.

01:09:51.000 I didn't do anything with WMDs.

01:09:52.000 No, I'm asking a question.

01:09:52.000 I've already said I'd give them $55 million if you go back to this and you use this to attack populism.

01:09:58.000 I'm asking if you feel remorse.

01:09:59.000 I'm not attacking anybody.

01:10:00.000 I'm asking you a question.

01:10:01.000 You don't care about the 60-plus million aborted babies? 0.95

01:10:04.000 You don't care about the 200,000 dead from fentanyl?

01:10:06.000 I'm not asking you about those things.

01:10:08.000 Do you feel remorse?

01:10:08.000 No, I'm not going to respond to your loaded question.

01:10:10.000 Yes or no.

01:10:10.000 I'm done.

01:10:11.000 I'm done.

01:10:12.000 I've already answered this question.

01:10:13.000 Okay, that's your question.

01:10:15.000 Let's go to... I thought you were going to ask, like... Alex!

01:10:18.000 Can I ask you a question?

01:10:19.000 One second.

01:10:20.000 Let's go to Dan.

01:10:20.000 Go ahead, Dan.

01:10:22.000 I was just curious what you think happened during Sandy Hook, because I'm a little ignorant of the situation.

01:10:27.000 So, what is the hypothesis of what went down?

01:10:33.000 Like, who was behind it?

01:10:35.000 He's asking what you really think happened, Alex.

01:10:40.000 Alex having a lot of technical issues dropped.

01:10:42.000 He'll come back, Dan, and we will get him to come and answer the questions.

01:10:46.000 I couldn't hear the last speaker either.

01:10:48.000 It might not have just been Alex.

01:10:53.000 Chase, do you want to rephrase Dan's question and ask Alex?

01:10:59.000 Sure.

01:10:59.000 My understanding is that Dan asked Alex what he thinks really happened as of now.

01:11:07.000 I cut out again.

01:11:07.000 This never happens.

01:11:08.000 It's happening all the time now.

01:11:10.000 Some glitch, I guess.

01:11:11.000 I'm sitting here with like full wireless, full four bars.

01:11:14.000 I don't know what's happening.

01:11:17.000 Sandy Hook is a very small part of what I've done in 30 years.

01:11:21.000 I covered people questioning it, and so I don't mind coming on shows to talk about it, but it's not really where I'm at.

01:11:27.000 The best thinking I've got is from the police reports, which no one wants to talk about, The first police show up, they go in, the bathroom door won't open, they push it open, and there's a pile of dead bodies and a pyramid of children.

01:11:40.000 And the police go, there's no blood, we believe they're moved here.

01:11:43.000 That is in the police report.

01:11:46.000 So I believe they had disinfo operatives come in and say it didn't happen, to create a big national debate, which they would put all over the news, they pushed the links, they questioned it, because their false flag was being exposed, they killed real kids there, And then they brought it into this thing that didn't happen as a diversion.

01:12:05.000 That's a conspiracy theory, that's speculation.

01:12:09.000 99% of what I do is on record, hey, Biden doesn't know where he's at, or inflation's high, or we have this many illegal aliens come across.

01:12:16.000 I just cover real stuff.

01:12:18.000 And the few times I would speculate, oh, maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong, becomes who I am.

01:12:22.000 So bottom line, I believe real kids were killed there.

01:12:26.000 They caught men in the woods in camo and all the rest of the stuff that's on record.

01:12:29.000 They don't want it debated.

01:12:30.000 I believe real children died, and they don't want us to investigate what really happened there.

01:12:36.000 And do you think the purpose was to ban guns?

01:12:38.000 What do you think the reason would be behind that?

01:12:41.000 Yeah, I mean, it was Obama that were trying to ban the guns then.

01:12:44.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:12:46.000 The police reports are real.

01:12:47.000 The EMT reports are real.

01:12:48.000 People go look them up.

01:12:50.000 They get there, and they go in the bathroom, and there's all the dead kids in a pyramid, like a ritual.

01:12:56.000 And there's no blood.

01:12:57.000 The cops say in the police report, we believe the body's removed here.

01:13:01.000 But notice the media won't cover this.

01:13:04.000 I've been saying this since the police report came out a year later.

01:13:07.000 So I was all over other shooters, other people, and then these professors, all these people came forward, and they put up a compelling case that they learned was fake.

01:13:16.000 And I started debating them, saying, no, I think kids died.

01:13:20.000 And that's when they went, oh, Alex Jones!

01:13:22.000 And then that's when the CIA came after me.

01:13:25.000 So I figured it all out in hindsight.

01:13:27.000 Alex, can I ask you a factual clarification question?

01:13:30.000 So in one of the reports on the latest developments, there is an assertion, this is in the New York Times, that you are currently routing purchases of your diet supplements through your father's company, and the Connecticut lawyers are claiming that that's proof that you don't intend to pay your fine because you're, you know, moving around money.

01:13:54.000 So if you could just address that, if that's true.

01:13:56.000 And then secondly, slightly different topic, but you mentioned before that you were in Detroit last weekend.

01:14:01.000 Answer that question because I can't bombard with a question.

01:14:03.000 Go ahead, Alex.

01:14:06.000 Yeah, it's like asking if Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer has a red nose.

01:14:10.000 My dad is a doctor and he helped create Dr. Jones Naturals.

01:14:15.000 He helped create InfoWars supplements, InfoWars Life.

01:14:20.000 And so for a decade, He has advertised with us and for a decade he has promoted other websites and stuff.

01:14:29.000 So he is an official sponsor under the bankruptcy for a supplement company he has, and I'm glad my dad's making money, but he pays that into the company.

01:14:39.000 The judge totally shot that down.

01:14:41.000 There's contracts.

01:14:42.000 It's there.

01:14:43.000 My dad's worked at InfoWars for 13 years.

01:14:47.000 Notice the judge.

01:14:49.000 Didn't respond to that.

01:14:50.000 The judge, he already knew all that.

01:14:52.000 The judge has done his homework.

01:14:53.000 So hell yeah, my dad's been involved for 13 years with my company.

01:14:57.000 He has drjonesnationals.com, which has amazing colonel silver products, nano silver products, just amazing supplements, drjonesnationals.com.

01:15:06.000 And he's a great sponsor of InfoWars and free speech systems.

01:15:10.000 And again, it's like acting like the sun comes up and you're hiding it.

01:15:14.000 This is a long term sponsor And it's all on record with the court.

01:15:20.000 Just like they said, we had guns at the office and all this to shut us down.

01:15:24.000 So it's just, it's completely insane.

01:15:26.000 It's completely crazy.

01:15:28.000 And finally, you know, we've got to judge this in buying.

01:15:30.000 Does that answer your question?

01:15:32.000 Yeah.

01:15:33.000 And just secondly, you mentioned before that you were asking...

01:15:37.000 What I'm...

01:15:38.000 Just a very quick follow-up.

01:15:39.000 No, no.

01:15:39.000 You've asked one question.

01:15:40.000 I need to go to somebody else.

01:15:41.000 I'll come back to you.

01:15:42.000 Like, I can't... This always happens when you want to ask, like, ten questions.

01:15:44.000 I'm not being rude, but... No, I want to ask two, not ten.

01:15:47.000 No, but it normally happens that you'll ask two, and then you'll ask another follow-up.

01:15:50.000 No, I was just going to ask one follow-up.

01:15:51.000 Michael, I'll come back to you.

01:15:53.000 I'm going to go to Lucky.

01:15:53.000 Lucky, jump in.

01:15:54.000 Let's hear another info war, so he'll look familiar or something.

01:15:57.000 Michael, what are you talking nonsense?

01:15:59.000 I literally went to Grant.

01:16:01.000 He was someone who was attacking Alex.

01:16:04.000 Then I went to you.

01:16:05.000 You were someone who was attacking Alex.

01:16:06.000 That's two attackers.

01:16:07.000 I didn't attack Alex.

01:16:08.000 I asked for a point of clarification.

01:16:10.000 Keep quiet.

01:16:11.000 If you're going to mourn, you may as well leave.

01:16:12.000 I'm literally saying I went to two attackers.

01:16:14.000 Now I'm balancing it out.

01:16:15.000 I'm going to someone.

01:16:16.000 And by the way, Lookie's not part of Infowars.

01:16:18.000 But maybe you can't digest the idea that maybe someone might have an alternative opinion.

01:16:22.000 Ridiculous.

01:16:24.000 And I didn't drop him.

01:16:24.000 He just ran off.

01:16:25.000 Go ahead, Lookie.

01:16:26.000 Really quick, though.

01:16:27.000 Look up in the nest, guys.

01:16:29.000 One second.

01:16:29.000 Millie.

01:16:30.000 We're going to... Evidence.

01:16:31.000 Receipts.

01:16:32.000 There you go.

01:16:32.000 Millie.

01:16:33.000 Millie.

01:16:34.000 We're going to go to Lucky.

01:16:35.000 When it comes to your time, we'll go to you.

01:16:36.000 Go ahead, Lucky.

01:16:37.000 Hey, thanks, Oleg, for having me.

01:16:39.000 Thanks, Marion and Sarah.

01:16:40.000 I think the issue, right, is that Alex is being held liable for actions of other people.

01:16:45.000 I think Sarah said, well, someone went and peed on, you know, a grave or someone did this or went inside a house.

01:16:50.000 Well, Alex Jones didn't do that.

01:16:51.000 Alex Jones didn't tell these people to do that.

01:16:53.000 He just reported.

01:16:54.000 Sorry, of course, I'm making noise.

01:16:56.000 He just reported, right, what happened, what he thought happened at the time.

01:17:01.000 And if you look at intentional motion, intentional affliction of emotional distress, which that one speaker was talking about, that's rarely if ever found.

01:17:09.000 And I don't think it's ever really been found on a purely speech issue.

01:17:13.000 The famous case there that the Supreme Court heard was Phelps, Snyder v. Phelps, where the Westboro Baptist Church would actually go and picket soldiers' funerals.

01:17:21.000 And, you know, with these very incendiary signs and kind of just kind of blame the soldier's death on their, you know, on the family and stuff.

01:17:29.000 So the family sued, they wanted a lower court, you know, went all the way up to the Supreme Court.

01:17:33.000 They basically said, listen, free speech trumps even the worst type of speech, even people who would go and pick at soldiers' funerals.

01:17:39.000 And I mean, the Westboro Baptist Church was also posting very incendiary stuff about the family, post-fact, and they still said, you know, this isn't, free speech trumps all of us, right?

01:17:47.000 As long as it's a matter of public concern, which talking about Sandy Hook, which was being used to limit Second Amendment rights, um, kind of goes to that.

01:17:56.000 So that's what kind of the court that heard Alex's case should have probably filed that George Prudence and they did it.

01:18:02.000 And secondly, with all this, um, you know, stand-up stuff, they're doing the same things with gun companies, right?

01:18:07.000 They're trying to hold, you know, the gun companies liable for what Adam Lanza did and say that, you know, bring lawsuits that way.

01:18:13.000 So it's just a two-pronged approach where they're going after, you know, the right of free speech and also the second minor right.

01:18:20.000 Well, I mean, he's absolutely right.

01:18:21.000 The Westboro Baptist Church are horrible people.

01:18:23.000 They go scream at dead troops' families and say, your son deserved to die because America's a godless whatever.

01:18:27.000 Thanks for having me.

01:18:28.000 Thanks a lot, Lucky.

01:18:29.000 Alex, do you want to add to anything Lucky said?

01:18:32.000 Well, I mean, he's absolutely right.

01:18:36.000 The Westboro Baptist Church are horrible people.

01:18:39.000 They go scream at dead troops' families and say your son deserves to die because America

01:18:44.000 is a godless whatever.

01:18:45.000 I'd hate those people, but they have a right to do that because if we don't stand up for

01:18:52.000 their rights, we lose everybody's rights. 0.85

01:18:54.000 And that's what's happened with me is the press is being set to take everybody's rights away using me.

01:19:02.000 And that's what's been done.

01:19:04.000 And meanwhile, I didn't even do the things they said I did.

01:19:08.000 And they admit, after they won these fake court judgments, it was a beta test to shut down everybody else.

01:19:15.000 They bragged, they set on the courthouse steps.

01:19:18.000 We don't want money.

01:19:19.000 We want to silence Alex Jones.

01:19:22.000 And so then, when they refuse the money, they run around and say, he won't give us our money.

01:19:28.000 So this is all about them trying to shut me down.

01:19:31.000 But the good news is, it's backfired.

01:19:34.000 And people see through it, and they realize this is about power and control.

01:19:37.000 So it doesn't matter how many Krasnistins they've got out there pushing their narrative, America and the world is awake. 0.91

01:19:44.000 But that commenter's dead on.

01:19:48.000 Okay, so, Dr. Michael, I'm going to come to you after Brian, because you did 100.

01:19:52.000 I think you're going to be more towards Alex, and I want to get somebody on the other side.

01:19:56.000 So, Krasinski, your name was mentioned, so I'll go to you.

01:20:02.000 Brian?

01:20:04.000 Brian, can you hear Sully?

01:20:07.000 Lord Krasinski.

01:20:10.000 No, I couldn't hear Sully there.

01:20:12.000 Your name was mentioned.

01:20:15.000 Brian, your name was mentioned by the previous speaker.

01:20:18.000 No, I just said, no matter what he does trying to distract off this, this is an attack on free speech.

01:20:27.000 So, I didn't hear exactly what the other speaker said.

01:20:30.000 Is there a question?

01:20:31.000 No, I just said, you're anti-free speech.

01:20:34.000 Because even if I did the things... No, I'm not.

01:20:37.000 No, so I believe in free speech.

01:20:40.000 I think free speech is important.

01:20:42.000 But there's different levels of free speech.

01:20:44.000 There's free speech as afforded by the U.S.

01:20:47.000 Constitution.

01:20:47.000 Different levels?

01:20:50.000 Well, there is.

01:20:51.000 I mean, the Constitution isn't speaking about your freedom of speech on a social media platform.

01:20:55.000 No, you're right.

01:20:56.000 Lying about WMB is okay, but if Alex Jones covers people questioning a shooting, he's got to be shut down.

01:21:02.000 Why?

01:21:02.000 What does this have to do with WMD?

01:21:04.000 Why do you keep bringing WMD up?

01:21:06.000 Like nobody's hearing about WMD.

01:21:07.000 Because that live killed millions of people and I didn't kill anybody.

01:21:09.000 No, because you wanted to distract.

01:21:11.000 No, we're not distracting.

01:21:13.000 We're distracting from the real crimes.

01:21:15.000 Why aren't we covering the real crimes?

01:21:18.000 I wasn't even talking for the last 35 minutes, so I don't even know what you're talking about here.

01:21:22.000 No, I just mentioned you because you wanted to distract off I think all those things are important.

01:21:27.000 the surveillance, the control, and then act like I'm the bad guy.

01:21:32.000 Listen, you guys have failed this impetus.

01:21:34.000 I think all those things are important.

01:21:37.000 I think those things are important.

01:21:38.000 I think that your views towards them differ from mine, but I think they're very important.

01:21:43.000 But I don't think anybody came here, the title of this room is Alex Jones Live, InfoWars Closed.

01:21:49.000 Nobody came here to talk about COVID or WNB or any of that.

01:21:52.000 But I didn't lie!

01:21:54.000 I didn't lie!

01:21:55.000 I covered a major movement of America's questioning things because they've been lied to so much.

01:22:01.000 People have been lied to so much.

01:22:02.000 How many times are we going to be lied to until we don't believe Jesse Smollett got attacked?

01:22:08.000 But we're not here to talk about Jesse Smollett.

01:22:10.000 You did lie, according to the court.

01:22:12.000 Oh, according to the rigged court.

01:22:14.000 Listen to me.

01:22:16.000 I questioned the official story.

01:22:18.000 You keep saying I'm a liar.

01:22:20.000 That's not true.

01:22:21.000 No, I said you lied, whether that means you're a liar or not.

01:22:24.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:22:25.000 But that's what the court determined.

01:22:27.000 Lying means you're conscious.

01:22:29.000 If you're mistaken, it's a mistake.

01:22:32.000 Look at the dictionary.

01:22:33.000 Being mistaken is one thing.

01:22:35.000 I did not lie.

01:22:37.000 And as soon as I said I thought Sandy Hook happened, they sued me because they said I was a liar.

01:22:41.000 I said I was wrong.

01:22:43.000 I made a mistake.

01:22:44.000 And you say that was a lie.

01:22:45.000 It was not a lie.

01:22:47.000 It points to my life when I believe it might have been staged.

01:22:50.000 So Brian, can you hear me?

01:22:54.000 The court determined that you should have known the truth when you said what you said.

01:22:57.000 Oh, two Democrat judges determined and then found me guilty?

01:23:03.000 They would not have found you liable, not guilty, of defamation.

01:23:06.000 No, they found me guilty.

01:23:08.000 Liable means guilty.

01:23:09.000 Stop lying.

01:23:10.000 They found me guilty in the court orders.

01:23:17.000 You cannot be guilty of defamation.

01:23:19.000 That is impossible.

01:23:20.000 He wasn't shown the actual evidence until the court... Brian, I'm just going to drop you and bring you back up.

01:23:24.000 I think you can't hear me.

01:23:25.000 Go ahead, Melissa.

01:23:26.000 Brian, I'm just, let me tell you, we're going to drop you and bring you back up because I don't think you can hear us.

01:23:31.000 I didn't mean to bring up Krasnostin.

01:23:32.000 He's just, he just, if we said the sky was blue, he'd say it was red.

01:23:36.000 It doesn't matter.

01:23:37.000 Let's go to some other people.

01:23:38.000 The point is I'm on record as saying it did happen the first year or so.

01:23:42.000 Then I questioned it.

01:23:43.000 I didn't do anything they claimed.

01:23:44.000 They raised money off of me.

01:23:45.000 It's a giant PR operation.

01:23:47.000 They're trying to crush everybody's free speech.

01:23:49.000 Everybody knows that it's disgusting.

01:23:52.000 Alex, what did the Autopsy Report show?

01:23:55.000 If I could pose a point here.

01:23:57.000 Interestingly, Alex Jones is being attacked, but there was a book written by James Fetzer called Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, and nothing has happened to this author and his co-authors.

01:24:08.000 A 450-page compilation of essays about this, and nobody said a word.

01:24:15.000 Nobody's gone after them.

01:24:16.000 The reason Alex Jones is being attacked is because he is a public figure of incredible reach, and because They want to make an example of him.

01:24:26.000 And I believe that these Sandy Hook parents are certainly proxies for the actors that Alex has pointed to.

01:24:36.000 And I would like to ask one question of Alex, if I might.

01:24:39.000 Alex, who do you think was really responsible for the shootings?

01:24:42.000 I want to be 100% clear.

01:24:44.000 I believe children were killed.

01:24:45.000 I've read the police reports.

01:24:46.000 They're real police officers.

01:24:48.000 I checked their names.

01:24:49.000 The first officer responded within 16 years.

01:24:52.000 He came in and was totally blown away.

01:24:55.000 He forced open the bathroom door, it's in the police report, and there was a pile in a pyramid, he said placed there, of children stacked on top of each other with no blood.

01:25:06.000 And in the police report he says, I believe they were moved there.

01:25:09.000 Then the EMT show up, their report says the same thing.

01:25:13.000 So no wonder whatever happened.

01:25:16.000 They put out this info and got us all to cover it.

01:25:18.000 And I took the bait.

01:25:19.000 I'm smarter now.

01:25:19.000 I'm 50.

01:25:20.000 But I don't know what happened.

01:25:21.000 I just know the police got there and there was a pile of dead kids in a pyramid in the bathroom with no blood.

01:25:28.000 Alex, what did the autopsy report say?

01:25:32.000 You know, they have sealed those.

01:25:35.000 And redacted most of it, so it's not released, basically, from the last time I saw.

01:25:41.000 It may be out now, but this whole thing is, the whole thing's crazy.

01:25:45.000 And here's the thing, I don't want to talk about it, not because I was sued over it.

01:25:49.000 It happened 11 years ago.

01:25:51.000 I got sued five years ago.

01:25:54.000 I barely ever talked about it.

01:25:55.000 I'm not the Sandy Hook guy.

01:25:57.000 And now, in these court hearings, they say, will you stop talking about it?

01:26:02.000 I'm like, you're, you have age You're all over the news.

01:26:08.000 They run PR ads everywhere, raising money, saying I'm attacking them.

01:26:12.000 And then they say, stop talking about us.

01:26:14.000 How am I supposed to sit here when all they do is say, no one knows who Adam Lanza is.

01:26:22.000 People attack me at the grocery store and say, how dare you kill those kids?

01:26:28.000 Alex Jones equals Sandy Hook.

01:26:30.000 That's why I told a reporter, For an HBO special, you know, a year ago, I said, fine, I killed him.

01:26:35.000 I confess, I killed the kids.

01:26:37.000 And I didn't know how to respond to that because it's insane!

01:26:41.000 It's insane!

01:26:42.000 And so that's where we are.

01:26:44.000 The internet... I said the name of one Sandy Hook parent because they came out laughing, smiling, saw the camera, started crying.

01:26:55.000 The internet didn't believe it.

01:26:56.000 The internet questioned it.

01:26:57.000 I know people like Weird Under Pressure.

01:26:59.000 It's probably real.

01:27:00.000 But then I get to show up in court in Connecticut and Texas on Friday.

01:27:03.000 And when I walk off the elevator, that same man literally walks halfway into my way and bugs his eyes out of me.

01:27:11.000 He's the one guy, I said the name of his kids, his kid.

01:27:14.000 I didn't attack him.

01:27:15.000 I don't even know him.

01:27:17.000 And so I think his kid died.

01:27:22.000 So I'm literally looking at a guy who wants to attack me and I don't even know him.

01:27:26.000 I just saw a video on YouTube and said, yeah, it looks fake.

01:27:30.000 So, but then I've been through grief too.

01:27:32.000 I've laughed when I'm sad.

01:27:33.000 And I even said that on air like five years ago before I got sued.

01:27:35.000 I said, no, I think, you know, but they don't care.

01:27:38.000 I mean, here's an example.

01:27:40.000 I take my show at like 6 a.m.

01:27:42.000 Tuesday live, but two years ago during the Texas trial, I take it, it's like 7 a.m.

01:27:48.000 And I said, Hey, I was in court yesterday with the Texas plaintiffs and I believe their kid died.

01:27:53.000 They were great people.

01:27:54.000 And I'm so sorry for them.

01:27:56.000 She marches into court.

01:27:57.000 The judge lets her talk for 10 minutes from the stand attacking me. 1.00

01:28:00.000 Today on your show, you said my kid didn't die.

01:28:04.000 You said I'm an actress.

01:28:05.000 You said I'm fake.

01:28:06.000 And they put it in an HBO show.

01:28:08.000 And I'm sitting there, and the judge goes, don't talk to me.

01:28:11.000 And she sat there for HBO and said, you attacked my child today.

01:28:16.000 You attacked me.

01:28:17.000 You said I'm not real.

01:28:19.000 And I got up on the stand later that day, but nobody covered the media.

01:28:22.000 And I said, lady, go watch my show. 1.00

01:28:24.000 I taped it this morning.

01:28:25.000 I said, you're a great lady.

01:28:26.000 I said, your kid died.

01:28:27.000 I said, I'm sorry.

01:28:28.000 But it didn't matter.

01:28:30.000 Because her lawyers told her something different.

01:28:34.000 And it's on record.

01:28:35.000 So I'm tired of apologizing to these people.

01:28:37.000 I didn't plant WMDs in Iraq.

01:28:39.000 I didn't ship fentanyl across the border.

01:28:41.000 I didn't have drag queen story time. 0.95

01:28:43.000 I didn't start World War III with Russia.

01:28:44.000 I'm a populist that opposes the globalists.

01:28:47.000 And that's why they want to silence me.

01:28:48.000 That's why you should follow me at Real Alex Jones.

01:28:51.000 And let me just say this too.

01:28:53.000 Let's clear up this question about conspiracy theory that's being denigrated by these NPCs here.

01:28:59.000 There is nothing wrong epistemologically with a conspiracy theory, if it's correct, and you can't tell me that conspiracies do not take place.

01:29:08.000 They do take place, and we have uncovered numerous conspiracies, including the JFK assassination, that even Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

01:29:19.000 says was conducted by the CIA, if not other actors as well.

01:29:24.000 So let's clear up this nonsense that conspiracy theories are somehow utterly disingenuous and completely wrong from the outset.

01:29:33.000 There's nothing epistemologically wrong.

01:29:36.000 Absolutely!

01:29:37.000 People are questioning the false narratives, and here's the deal.

01:29:40.000 I never want to talk about San Diego Key End.

01:29:42.000 They run PR advertisements all day long on X, raising money off my name, saying he's attacking us.

01:29:49.000 Help the children, give us money.

01:29:50.000 I don't ever want to say their name again, but they attack me!

01:29:55.000 And then they bring this thing up constantly.

01:29:57.000 It's like a franchise.

01:29:59.000 What am I supposed to do?

01:30:00.000 So Brian, I just want to ask you a question on this.

01:30:06.000 I think I had a conversation with someone offline about this.

01:30:12.000 Alex, this is how I understand it.

01:30:15.000 He didn't kill the kids.

01:30:17.000 He did not cause the situation or the atmosphere that caused the kids to be killed.

01:30:25.000 Those who disagree with him make the argument that after the fact he questioned things that could have hurt the feelings of the parents.

01:30:33.000 I mean, did he hurt the feelings of the parents?

01:30:35.000 The question is, was he or should he be allowed to ask those questions if I've understood it right?

01:30:41.000 And then his argument is, and then I'll add my own a bit and then I want to ask you the question, his argument is that there's people who have directly caused the death of people and there's been no action towards them.

01:30:53.000 You know my feeling about many of the people, including yourself, who basically perpetuated this lie about Jihad Day, which caused an extreme atmosphere of Islamophobia, and later either directly, indirectly, or the atmosphere did cause a kid to die.

01:31:10.000 So, and I'm not sure if that's direct or indirect.

01:31:12.000 So, I mean, based on that, one may even argue you're much more liable if there was some form of liability and yet no action was taken against any of these people.

01:31:20.000 I don't even know what you're talking about.

01:31:23.000 So, I'll answer your question, but you say I'm liable for some kid's death?

01:31:27.000 I don't even know what you're talking about.

01:31:28.000 No, I didn't say that.

01:31:29.000 Now he's so close.

01:31:29.000 Do you not understand?

01:31:30.000 He's so close.

01:31:31.000 Now he gets it.

01:31:32.000 Now he gets it.

01:31:33.000 No, no.

01:31:33.000 No, no, no, no.

01:31:35.000 No, no.

01:31:36.000 I said directly, indirectly.

01:31:38.000 I'll respond.

01:31:39.000 Atmosphere.

01:31:40.000 I'll respond to what you're saying.

01:31:42.000 So I'm not saying that Alex Jones is responsible for anybody's death.

01:31:47.000 I'm not saying that.

01:31:49.000 I'm also not saying there's any comparison to somebody killing somebody.

01:31:54.000 Then why don't we know... Krasnosti, just say the name Adam Lanza.

01:31:58.000 I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will.

01:32:00.000 Krasnosti, just say Adam Lanza.

01:32:04.000 Brian, Brian, let Krasnosti answer the question.

01:32:06.000 Brian, will you say the name Adam Lanza?

01:32:10.000 Brian, go ahead and answer my question as well, because I think we need to give him an answer.

01:32:12.000 Will you say Adam Lanza?

01:32:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:15.000 Alex, I think I asked him a question.

01:32:16.000 Well, let him say it.

01:32:17.000 Stop, stop, stop.

01:32:18.000 He said it.

01:32:18.000 Say it again.

01:32:19.000 Adam Lanza killed the kids, right?

01:32:19.000 Say it again.

01:32:23.000 Yep.

01:32:24.000 Say Adam Lanza, Adam.

01:32:26.000 Or, Brian.

01:32:29.000 Adam, say, say Adam Lanza.

01:32:31.000 Can you say it?

01:32:36.000 Adam Lanza is a horrible person.

01:32:37.000 He's a horrible person.

01:32:38.000 And what I'm saying is that yes, Alex, come on.

01:32:42.000 Just say, my audio cut out.

01:32:44.000 Will you say, they cut it off.

01:32:46.000 Just say Adam Lanza for me.

01:32:48.000 I don't understand your point of yes please.

01:32:49.000 Who is worse?

01:32:50.000 I'm gonna ask you again.

01:32:51.000 I'll let you talk.

01:32:52.000 I'll let you talk.

01:32:53.000 Let me ask.

01:32:54.000 Adam Lanza is a horrible person.

01:32:55.000 He's a horrible person.

01:32:56.000 What did he do?

01:32:57.000 He's a murderer.

01:32:58.000 Wait.

01:32:59.000 Yeah.

01:33:00.000 He killed the Sandy Hook kids.

01:33:01.000 And then you took the deaths of the kids and used it to get your show popular by spouting

01:33:09.000 lies and putting the parents of these dead kids in a situation where they feared for

01:33:15.000 their lives.

01:33:17.000 No, the internet already didn't believe it.

01:33:20.000 I just discovered it.

01:33:21.000 It's not true.

01:33:22.000 Okay, okay, but you told her!

01:33:23.000 It's not true.

01:33:24.000 It's not true.

01:33:25.000 The internet was already going wild with all these theories.

01:33:29.000 Okay, but who cares?

01:33:30.000 Hold on, Brian.

01:33:31.000 It's not who cares.

01:33:32.000 It's irrelevant to the discussion.

01:33:33.000 So if the internet is wild enough to be a threat, then why is it not a threat?

01:33:34.000 It provides context to the discussion.

01:33:36.000 So does that mean Alex was right in lying?

01:33:38.000 I know you think you can just talk over me, Brian, and try to make me shut up, but I'm talking right now.

01:33:43.000 You just spoke over me as I was in the middle.

01:33:46.000 No, I was responding. And what I'm saying is it is entirely relevant to the discussion.

01:33:52.000 Because Alex was reporting on what was already going on during that time period all over social media.

01:33:58.000 And that is why what I brought up earlier is very relevant to the discussion.

01:34:02.000 When you have trolls out there, and I believe psyops actors out there like Jonathan Lee Riches, who literally went and showed up to the Sandy Hook shootings memorial site and was interviewed by several credible media outlets, You can use me.

01:34:18.000 You can use me if you want.

01:34:19.000 and his crazy things, that actually had a rippling effect on social media where people started questioning,

01:34:25.000 what's going on here?

01:34:26.000 Are there crisis actors?

01:34:28.000 Like that's what people were saying.

01:34:29.000 Something seems up here.

01:34:30.000 Okay, so Miley, can I ask you a question?

01:34:33.000 Go ahead.

01:34:34.000 Can I ask you a question?

01:34:35.000 So if, say somebody in here, say Sarah, and I'm sorry I'm using Sarah.

01:34:40.000 You can use me if you want, that's all right.

01:34:43.000 Say Chase.

01:34:45.000 I saw it.

01:34:46.000 No, you're right.

01:34:47.000 You're right.

01:34:48.000 Joe Biden is steady and brave.

01:34:49.000 Crash the scene.

01:34:50.000 I don't want to talk to Crash the scene.

01:34:53.000 I don't want to talk to Crash the scene anymore.

01:34:55.000 Let's go to a new poll.

01:34:57.000 I'm going to leave.

01:34:57.000 I'm not mad.

01:34:57.000 neighborhood. And I know that for a fact. Now, does that make me saying that?

01:35:02.000 No, you're right. Joe Biden is studying brave. Krasnostine.

01:35:06.000 Does that make me not liable for defamation because Chase said that?

01:35:09.000 I don't want to talk to Krasnostine anymore. Let's go to a new poll. I'm going to leave. 1.00

01:35:12.000 I'm not mad. I can't handle it.

01:35:14.000 How about if many credible media outlets started posting interviews saying this is Miley's

01:35:21.000 relative and he's a credible witness on the subject?

01:35:25.000 And then you read those and you believed it.

01:35:27.000 Now everyone on the internet is reading this stuff and getting whipped up into not knowing what's going on.

01:35:32.000 I mean, that's more along the lines of what we're talking about.

01:35:37.000 We're not talking about a random guy.

01:35:41.000 The world doesn't know how definitions work, so if you say something as a fact, it doesn't matter who else said it.

01:35:48.000 If you say it's a fact, rather than say, oh, Miley said this, or oh, Chase said this, then there's definitely a definition.

01:35:56.000 I want to know this, Brian.

01:36:00.000 Before you told all these people that the Russian dossier was fake, did you have first-hand knowledge?

01:36:06.000 Did you see it?

01:36:08.000 Or were you going based off of what other credible media outlets were reporting?

01:36:13.000 Wait, before I said the Russian dossier was fake?

01:36:16.000 No, when you were saying that, oh, you know, this is a real thing, the Russian dossier, were you going off of media outlets and their reports?

01:36:26.000 Wait, I never said that!

01:36:28.000 I never said that!

01:36:28.000 Did you see it first-hand yourself and see that it was 100% real because you saw it first-hand?

01:36:33.000 Alright, Lord Krasnospin's been here long enough.

01:36:35.000 I never said that.

01:36:36.000 I never said the Russian dossier was real.

01:36:39.000 Alright, Lord Krasnospin... Six years ago.

01:36:41.000 I never said that.

01:36:47.000 Alex, I know you don't want Krasinskian to talk, but like, I mean, I know you feel like he's talked a lot, but then everyone's asking him questions.

01:36:53.000 Like now Millie's asked him a question and he's responding.

01:36:55.000 I asked him a question.

01:36:56.000 Uh, you, I think a few other people mentioned him and asked him questions.

01:36:59.000 So like a good way of making sure someone doesn't like be so heavily in a conversation is to not ask him so many questions.

01:37:06.000 Like now Millie's asked him a question.

01:37:07.000 He's going to respond, right?

01:37:08.000 Sully...

01:37:09.000 I can't hear Solomon if he's speaking.

01:37:17.000 Yeah, he said go ahead, Brian.

01:37:19.000 So go ahead, Brian, finish up your point.

01:37:21.000 And we'll move on.

01:37:26.000 Can you hear me, Brian?

01:37:27.000 Brian, you're supposed to finish your point.

01:37:30.000 We'll try and bring it back. Go ahead Chase, make it, you had your hand up.

01:37:33.000 Yeah, I just, really quick, there's a couple of things here.

01:37:37.000 So one of the issues that came up in this conversation is fairly poignant.

01:37:41.000 So the argument is that because of Alex Jones's large audience and because he speculated as to the details of Sandy Hook those years ago, it resulted in death threats for the family and emotional damages.

01:37:55.000 That's the general argument here, right?

01:37:58.000 And there's a couple of things I just want to throw out there as additional variables.

01:38:02.000 First thing is, you know, I was in the courtroom on Friday and Alex Jones is the one that needs a bodyguard.

01:38:07.000 And you don't see plaintiffs walking into the courtroom with their own bodyguards.

01:38:10.000 So this argument they actually genuinely feared for their Lives is something I'm very skeptical about maybe it was different five years ago or six years ago when this was a hotter topic Or something like that, so I don't deny that you know maybe they got some flack from the audience But I just don't really buy that there's a legitimate fear of for the lives the second thing I want to draw everyone's attention to is

01:38:31.000 The estate of Adam Lanza was sued for 1.5 million dollars.

01:38:36.000 And so Alex Jones has been sued for 1.5 billion dollars.

01:38:39.000 According to the court of law, if you just look at the numbers, he's somehow a thousand times more monetarily culpable than the actual killer of those kids, which I find incredibly bizarre.

01:38:48.000 Now you could say, well, Adam Lanza didn't have any money.

01:38:50.000 That's why Alex Jones also doesn't have $1.5 billion.

01:38:54.000 And I just think there's something very malicious going on with the way that this has been litigated that is unjust.

01:39:00.000 And this is not me apologizing for any mistakes that Alex might've made or saying that he was right

01:39:04.000 or just trying to be totally an apologetic person.

01:39:09.000 Let's go to Joah.

01:39:09.000 here. I'm just saying this is so obviously screwed up regardless of whether or not Alex

01:39:14.000 made some genuine mistakes that I think people should really try to look at it from that

01:39:18.000 perspective. That's all I wanted to add to the group.

01:39:20.000 Let's go to, thanks for that, Jess. Let's go to Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

01:39:27.000 Someone came up here and said that, look, Alex was targeted.

01:39:31.000 There was a book that said no one was shot at Sandy Hook, and they didn't go after them.

01:39:37.000 Well, they did go after them.

01:39:38.000 They were also found liable of defamation.

01:39:40.000 This is not a targeted attack against Alex.

01:39:45.000 Like, I used to like Alex Show.

01:39:47.000 I stopped liking it when, you know, you say colloidal silver is the cure for COVID, but then you're selling it yourself.

01:39:56.000 I feel like it's just me.

01:39:57.000 You lying scumbag.

01:39:59.000 Another leftist turd.

01:40:01.000 Dude, we sell colloidal silver as an antibiotic, as a topical.

01:40:06.000 It's a well-known thing.

01:40:08.000 It's sold in CVS, Whole Foods, Walgreens.

01:40:12.000 I love to be like, don't sell colloidal silver!

01:40:15.000 Did the Attorney General say you need to stop selling it as a cure?

01:40:18.000 Oh yeah, you're right, you're right.

01:40:20.000 Right, I'm right.

01:40:21.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:40:21.000 Let me finish! 1.00

01:40:22.000 Alright, I'm gonna hang up.

01:40:23.000 If I can't respond, I'm gonna hang up.

01:40:26.000 Okay, okay.

01:40:27.000 Alex, let Alex respond, Joe.

01:40:29.000 Joe, let him respond.

01:40:32.000 I want to respond to your live chat.

01:40:34.000 Joe, let him respond.

01:40:35.000 Go ahead, Alex.

01:40:37.000 This is a perfect microcosm.

01:40:40.000 I've been on air 30 years.

01:40:43.000 And, like, 28 years ago, I got approached by sponsors at a global silver.

01:40:48.000 Now, that's before it was in Whole Foods.

01:40:51.000 And before it was in CVS and Walgreens and Vons.

01:40:55.000 Silver is now in hospitals sprayed better than Iodine.

01:40:59.000 And so he calls in and goes, Oh, you're running a scam.

01:41:04.000 You sell colloidal silver.

01:41:06.000 Colloidal silver is sold at Whole Foods.

01:41:10.000 We were right before that.

01:41:12.000 It's an incredible antibiotic, antiviral, antibacterial.

01:41:16.000 We just sell, I private labeled.

01:41:19.000 the same colloidal silver made by Whole Foods. It's the same top manufacturer, 300 parts per million.

01:41:28.000 So this guy pops in, he says, "You're a scammer. You're selling colloidal silver. Ladies and

01:41:35.000 gentlemen, go to Walgreens." That's not what I said, Alex.

01:41:38.000 No, no, no. You just said, go ahead. You just said, no, I didn't say silver would cure COVID.

01:41:46.000 Letitia James... I have your quote.

01:41:48.000 Let me finish, let me finish, let me finish.

01:41:50.000 You said the government doesn't want you to know about the cure, which is colloidal silver.

01:41:53.000 Let me finish, let me finish.

01:41:55.000 Now make your point.

01:41:56.000 Yeah, the government doesn't want you to know.

01:41:58.000 Letitia James, put in by George Soros in New York, that's run the prosecution against Trump, came out and never filed charges, she claimed she would, claiming, I was claiming a COVID cure, I never did.

01:42:13.000 Topically, sunlight kills COVID.

01:42:16.000 So does water.

01:42:18.000 I sell colloidal silver products and never claim that.

01:42:22.000 You just tried another lie.

01:42:25.000 Silver is just another antibiotic.

01:42:28.000 Everybody knows that and you literally just sit there with your federal feed attacking us.

01:42:34.000 Maybe you shouldn't have said the government doesn't want you to know about the cure for coronavirus.

01:42:40.000 It's colloidal silver.

01:42:41.000 You're a liar!

01:42:42.000 You're a liar!

01:42:42.000 if we're a liar, you're a liar, you're a liar, I never said that you are a dirty government

01:42:51.000 liar who sent an email by the deep state.

01:42:55.000 I never got charged with defamation so.

01:42:57.000 Oh yeah, oh another court never did, because you're a nobody.

01:43:02.000 You serve the system, that's why you were never attacked, and now you try this attack.

01:43:06.000 Silver is amazing, folks.

01:43:08.000 Don't listen to this dirtbag.

01:43:10.000 It's amazing.

01:43:11.000 Don't listen to him.

01:43:12.000 Good job.

01:43:14.000 Good job.

01:43:14.000 He never mentioned... I'm going to go to... one second, guys.

01:43:19.000 You're disgusted.

01:43:19.000 Dr. Michael.

01:43:20.000 Dr. Michael, go ahead.

01:43:22.000 Yes, I mean, just in response to this latest comment here about silver.

01:43:28.000 Here is the federal government telling us that the coronavirus vaccine was safe and effective, proven to be utterly untrue.

01:43:37.000 It's in fact, it has a negative efficacy over six months and has no ability to stop any spread.

01:43:46.000 In fact, it hasn't even the ability to keep the people who take it from getting COVID.

01:43:50.000 So why isn't he referring to that, which was a massive government program and rollout?

01:43:55.000 You're the one that lied about the book.

01:43:57.000 The book authors didn't get charged.

01:43:59.000 I didn't lie.

01:44:00.000 I recognized that the book authors We're sued for $450,000.

01:44:05.000 That's a far cry from 1.4 billion dollars.

01:44:11.000 Doctor, you did initially state that nobody had gone after the author of that book.

01:44:16.000 And they did.

01:44:18.000 I meant to say that nobody had sued them for the likes of what Alex Jones was sued for.

01:44:24.000 1.4 billion dollars.

01:44:26.000 Fine.

01:44:26.000 Listen, let me just say this in closing.

01:44:28.000 I'm going to leave.

01:44:29.000 Take all your shots.

01:44:31.000 World government's good.

01:44:33.000 Drag Queen Story Time is good.

01:44:36.000 It's all good.

01:44:37.000 Do what the government says.

01:44:39.000 They love you.

01:44:40.000 They care about you.

01:44:41.000 Be like the Krasnyskys. 1.00

01:44:43.000 Give in to world government.

01:44:45.000 Cut your son's genitals off. 0.99

01:44:47.000 Cut your daughter's breasts off. 1.00

01:44:49.000 Just do whatever they say.

01:44:50.000 It's going to be a lot better.

01:44:51.000 Just do what they say.

01:44:54.000 Everything's okay.

01:44:56.000 Worship world government.

01:44:57.000 Don't follow me at Real Alex Jones.

01:45:00.000 Just worship world government.

01:45:02.000 Worship it.

01:45:02.000 It's so good.

01:45:03.000 I mean, how about when, when Como publicly ridiculed Joe Rogan for using ivermectin?

01:45:13.000 I mean, the media kind of came out and said that, and that was a blatant lie.

01:45:17.000 And they knew that Ivermectin was prescribed, and they basically made it out to be some crazy, you know, conspiracy theory.

01:45:24.000 You're a terrorist!

01:45:26.000 Take the shots, join Jesus, leave the earth, just die. 0.99

01:45:31.000 It's not bein' like this.

01:45:33.000 Just join the Karazhstins. 1.00

01:45:35.000 Just take the shots.

01:45:37.000 Roll back.

01:45:37.000 It's so good.

01:45:39.000 Give the Krazensteins the Earth. 1.00

01:45:41.000 Give them the Earth.

01:45:42.000 Krazensteins rule us. 1.00

01:45:44.000 Oh my God.

01:45:45.000 Sully.

01:45:48.000 Alex, this sounds like you're kind of... No, it's beautiful!

01:45:51.000 Hey Krazenstein, you love the 35 million dead. 0.99

01:45:54.000 You love all the dead.

01:45:56.000 You love the poison.

01:45:57.000 You love Pfizer.

01:45:58.000 You love it.

01:45:59.000 You love the new world.

01:46:01.000 It's on you.

01:46:01.000 The death is on you.

01:46:05.000 Why are the dead on me?

01:46:06.000 Here goes the Mingala now.

01:46:09.000 Baby Presidine Mingala.

01:46:12.000 Why are the dead on me?

01:46:14.000 Can you explain that to me?

01:46:15.000 Record level deaths according to overall comorbidity.

01:46:21.000 40 plus percent increase.

01:46:22.000 But what's it have to do with you?

01:46:23.000 You love the system.

01:46:25.000 You're part of the system.

01:46:27.000 You sit there worshipping it.

01:46:29.000 So I want to say Krasenstein loves it.

01:46:32.000 He loves the New World Order.

01:46:34.000 He loves the globalists.

01:46:35.000 I just want to say, in your... Based on what?

01:46:38.000 What do you mean?

01:46:40.000 Tell us, should we take the tenth?

01:46:42.000 Krasenstein, should we take the tenth?

01:46:45.000 You're just making stuff up right now.

01:46:53.000 I think it's up to whatever people want to do.

01:46:57.000 I think it's up to whatever we do.

01:46:59.000 Nobody made us take it.

01:47:02.000 Nobody tried to make us take it.

01:47:04.000 Nobody tried to lie to you?

01:47:06.000 He wants to deny he did it to you.

01:47:09.000 He wants you to forget what he did when he did it.

01:47:12.000 Hey, Krasistein!

01:47:13.000 Krasistein!

01:47:14.000 You ever took any Pfizer money, Krasistein?

01:47:17.000 You ever took any Pfizer money, Krasistein?

01:47:20.000 No, I've never been paid by any pharmaceutical company.

01:47:22.000 You ever took a little Moderna money?

01:47:23.000 How about you?

01:47:24.000 A little money, Krasistein?

01:47:26.000 Did Pfizer pay you?

01:47:27.000 I don't think anyone pays him to be this stupid, Alex, unfortunately.

01:47:32.000 Well, let me ask you, Alex, have you ever taken any money from any pharmaceutical company?

01:47:38.000 No, I'm not.

01:47:40.000 Absolutely not.

01:47:41.000 So back to... Oh, hey.

01:47:44.000 Me neither.

01:47:44.000 So we have something in common.

01:47:46.000 Me neither.

01:47:47.000 I'm a lawyer.

01:47:48.000 Do you want to go hang out?

01:47:49.000 All right.

01:47:51.000 I've had fun for two hours.

01:47:52.000 I'm going to leave and hang out with my family.

01:47:54.000 Follow me at Relox Jones.

01:47:56.000 You guys, I'm the devil.

01:47:58.000 I'm the bad guy.

01:47:59.000 WMDs don't matter.

01:48:00.000 World government doesn't matter. 0.83

01:48:02.000 Open borders don't matter.

01:48:03.000 Alex Jones is the bad guy.

01:48:05.000 I agree.

01:48:06.000 I'm here.

01:48:07.000 I'm the bad guy.

01:48:07.000 Don't follow me on Alex Jones.

01:48:09.000 No, no.

01:48:09.000 Follow Alex Jones.

01:48:10.000 Let me go to Trickstep, right?

01:48:12.000 Trickstep, you said that you are a CT defendant.

01:48:16.000 Everything Alex is saying is correct.

01:48:18.000 Do jump in.

01:48:19.000 What is it you wanted to say?

01:48:23.000 Yeah, I was the CT defendant that was actually dismissed by the plaintiffs, which according to state law that was brought up to the Connecticut Supreme Court, should have legally dropped the entire case from the state of Connecticut to begin with.

01:48:36.000 And for the record here in the phone call, Alex, this is the first time I believe I've ever talked to you regarding anything, and I'm going to say, for the record, we have never met Uh, in which the plaintiffs, uh, originally in the case in Connecticut, said that apparently we did a marketing scheme.

01:48:55.000 Uh, that is unfactual.

01:48:57.000 Yeah, I don't know who you are, so we're supposedly in business?

01:49:01.000 Uh, apparently so, Alex.

01:49:03.000 And, uh, regarding Wolfgang Halbig, again, he was just a small, tiny acquaintance on a bigger version of a controversy.

01:49:12.000 But with the people that were following me, uh, what, what are we going back now?

01:49:16.000 Seven years ago?

01:49:17.000 In a FOIA office who got me on camera that decided to say hey this guy's doing a marketing scheme so for the record for everybody I know some of the individuals in this case and I am the Connecticut taxpayer and never had a say in the entire Sandy Hook case to begin with but yet the entire media across the board said me and him are business partners Yet not a single ounce of evidence has ever been produced from the original complaint, which should have killed this lawsuit dead in its tracks to begin with.

01:49:55.000 So everybody who is a near hearsayer up in here that I've been listening to for six years, none of you know what you're talking about. 0.99

01:50:03.000 None of you are probably even a Connecticut taxpayer.

01:50:06.000 And for the record, my voice is just as important in this case because this case should have gotten dismissed The instant that the plaintiffs voluntarily removed me from it.

01:50:19.000 Well, I don't know who you are, so what are you saying happens?

01:50:24.000 What am I saying happen?

01:50:26.000 Is someone made up a case against Alex Jones and myself.

01:50:32.000 They made it up.

01:50:33.000 But who are you?

01:50:34.000 Because Alex Jones is saying he doesn't know who you are.

01:50:38.000 I was the Connecticut defendant in the Connecticut court case.

01:50:41.000 Okay, so tell us those stories.

01:50:43.000 Explain it, because we're not understanding your point.

01:50:45.000 Go ahead.

01:50:48.000 So, individual lawsuits had started to happen in 2018 to where I was actually out of the state and a lawsuit appeared at my neighbor's door saying that I was a defendant in the case in Connecticut.

01:51:01.000 Which case, though, sir?

01:51:03.000 Which case and what were you defending?

01:51:05.000 There was only one case.

01:51:06.000 Do you want to explain it for the audience?

01:51:08.000 Do you want to explain it?

01:51:09.000 Because no one understands what you're talking about.

01:51:13.000 Pretend like someone doesn't know what you're talking about at all, and say, guess what?

01:51:17.000 X happened and I was involved because of Y. Go ahead.

01:51:21.000 Okay.

01:51:23.000 Because I was so caught off guard, I was served with a lawsuit about a binder book thick, being claimed as a defendant, again, with Alex Jones, with multiple other defendants, in which parties here in the state of Connecticut had served a defamation case against us.

01:51:43.000 Why were you a defendant in the case?

01:51:45.000 no no understanding of I didn't know who the defendants I'm sorry any of the

01:51:51.000 other defendants were or any other plaintiffs except mr.

01:51:53.000 Hal big that was quoted in the case problem is I didn't understand why Alex

01:51:59.000 Jones was actually brought into the case at all because I personally did not

01:52:03.000 know him why were you a defense look why were you a defendant in the case

01:52:08.000 according to the actual complaint in which mr. any of these guys right here Brian

01:52:14.000 you two can bring up I just explained to me.

01:52:19.000 I, I, I allegedly, uh, created a marketing scheme and business transaction slash, uh, I don't even know what you would word it as some sort of scheme to create money for Alex Jones.

01:52:32.000 That's an absolute, it's a lie.

01:52:35.000 This is a guy that owes us.

01:52:36.000 This is a guy that owes us $1.5 billion.

01:52:39.000 Yeah, so they just use you as a nexus point.

01:52:43.000 Yeah, they not only use me as a nexus point, I have received some little friends on my doorstop in multiple locations, including my family members.

01:52:56.000 Particularly from... I remember you, you're the guy that called the FBI head that set this up, right?

01:53:03.000 I did not.

01:53:03.000 Actually, I did not even know the FBI head except one of my co-workers that actually knew him.

01:53:09.000 Which threw it for a foul, because that's when I actually found out he was the legal head of the New Haven FBI.

01:53:18.000 And I knew individuals up here that knew him, and until it's brought into court of law, that testimony will be brought forward eventually.

01:53:27.000 But he will say he's never met me in his entire life.

01:53:34.000 If that makes any sense.

01:53:35.000 Man, I don't know.

01:53:36.000 I just covered the internet question in the shooting.

01:53:38.000 You did nothing wrong, Alex.

01:53:39.000 And to hear for BAT, what really happened was that certain attorneys were working with the actual plaintiff's attorneys in this case.

01:53:46.000 the FBI. I don't know anymore, Matt. This is totally insane.

01:53:51.000 You did nothing wrong, Alex. And to hear for that, what really happened was that certain

01:53:57.000 attorneys were working with the actual plaintiff's attorneys in this case. And when I found out

01:54:03.000 the USAA was actually attempting to try and garnish a judgment to where nobody would be

01:54:11.000 able to be covered under insurance.

01:54:13.000 I fired my attorney.

01:54:14.000 That's actually representative in the case.

01:54:17.000 All of a sudden, 48 hours later, the plaintiffs give me a call and literally removed me from the case.

01:54:24.000 So no other further questions or statements.

01:54:26.000 Nothing binding ever happened.

01:54:28.000 Yeah, they were using you to tie me into the state.

01:54:31.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:54:34.000 And that's absolutely unfair.

01:54:35.000 And what I didn't understand is within that case, How do you have other federal employees suing other federal employees?

01:54:43.000 So look, I think most of the audience I'm getting messages still don't understand what tricks I'm saying.

01:54:48.000 So Chase, if you understood what he says, can you kind of explain it to the audience?

01:54:53.000 I don't understand anything.

01:54:54.000 I'm not saying that he's full of shit or anything, I just don't get it.

01:55:00.000 No, no, I'm not saying that.

01:55:02.000 It just means he's not communicating his position.

01:55:04.000 Well, it's just so complicated, it's hard.

01:55:06.000 Chase, is this part of the Sandy Hook case?

01:55:09.000 What case is he referring to specifically, sir?

01:55:12.000 I don't know why you think I know.

01:55:14.000 I've just been working here for one year.

01:55:15.000 I'm trying to keep us on air.

01:55:16.000 That's all.

01:55:19.000 The only case in Connecticut is the Sandy Hook case to where basically my fellow taxpayers were suing me as another fellow taxpayer for no reason and lied within the case.

01:55:28.000 Right.

01:55:28.000 One second.

01:55:28.000 Let's break that.

01:55:29.000 I want you to break it down.

01:55:30.000 So the Sandy Hook case, you were a defendant in the case, correct?

01:55:36.000 Yes, it's the only way according to the law that could happen.

01:55:39.000 I'm just going to ask you a question that you need to answer because I kind of let it go for like 10-15 minutes.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, how did you get ahead of me?

01:55:44.000 Yeah, so what was the reason why you were a defendant in the Sandy Hill case?

01:55:52.000 Please explain, concisely.

01:55:53.000 To begin with, it all started over a public hearing.

01:55:57.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:55:59.000 One second, I don't want to know why it started.

01:56:01.000 I want to know from you, what is the claim That they made against you.

01:56:08.000 That I was directly in business with Alex Jones.

01:56:10.000 So they claim, but why is it that you being directly in business with Alex Jones makes you liable for the Sunday Hook?

01:56:22.000 My point is, is that it doesn't make me liable at all.

01:56:25.000 It was because... But why did they claim it?

01:56:29.000 Mario, you're not... I don't think anyone... Painting the conspirator in Connecticut.

01:56:34.000 So they randomly picked this guy?

01:56:37.000 Yes.

01:56:38.000 Because a film crew that happened to be in a FOIA office that was allegedly around my face, they decided to use me because there's the only Connecticut defendant there that they could tie to any individual that was in the office.

01:56:53.000 Yeah, they need to kill conspirator in the state.

01:56:55.000 Which my lawyers always wondered, how do they put you in the state?

01:57:00.000 Who is your co-person?

01:57:01.000 I said, I don't know anybody.

01:57:03.000 Now this guy calls in, they randomly pick some dude to get it put in the state as a conspiracy.

01:57:09.000 It sounds like what he's describing is that they used this guy to get jurisdiction for Connecticut, and then he was removed later from the case, which should have removed their jurisdiction.

01:57:22.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:57:24.000 100%.

01:57:24.000 And that is my argument to this day.

01:57:26.000 And I feel I'm obligated to at least speak that because that is the missing point that the media And I know a lot of attorneys across the nation know exactly what I'm saying.

01:57:38.000 This case should have never been moved forward at all.

01:57:41.000 So just to summarize for the audience, they needed someone who was a co-conscriptor in the same state.

01:57:52.000 Well, I just have a question.

01:57:53.000 Would that make it open to appeal?

01:57:54.000 were the said person to essentially bring the case in that state, afterwards you were

01:58:00.000 removed but for some reason the case continued.

01:58:04.000 Yes.

01:58:05.000 Okay.

01:58:06.000 So that means...

01:58:07.000 100% fact.

01:58:08.000 Okay, I get that.

01:58:09.000 So is there any kind of pushback to that proposition by anybody on the other side?

01:58:14.000 Well I just have a question.

01:58:16.000 Would that make it open to appeal?

01:58:18.000 Yeah, thanks for telling us now.

01:58:22.000 Listen guys, these guys have known the facts and so have the other side attorneys, whether

01:58:31.000 they have disclosed that or not under their "conditions".

01:58:37.000 I have never, and this is also for the record, I have never, ever, made any commitment to that at all.

01:58:49.000 I mean, this is probably the first time you're hearing this.

01:58:52.000 If what he is saying does add up, and he's not just like making it up. And by the way, I'm

01:58:57.000 not saying you are tricks, we just don't know who you are. But let's say hypothetically,

01:59:00.000 this is true. And hypothetically, this guy isn't making it up. And would this would you have

01:59:06.000 some kind of source for appeal or something to use this or like, what do you think, Alex?

01:59:14.000 I just know they attack me on HBO, CNN, ABC, everything.

01:59:18.000 And they say stop attacking.

01:59:20.000 We're not even talking about them.

01:59:22.000 And so, I understand this is a larger operation.

01:59:26.000 And so, I don't know.

01:59:27.000 I barely ever talked about it.

01:59:31.000 I know about court, how they use somebody in the state to actually have jurisdiction.

01:59:34.000 I don't know if this guy is real.

01:59:36.000 But all I know is, it just goes on and on and on.

01:59:39.000 I'm on every TV channel everywhere about these people.

01:59:42.000 I barely ever talked about them.

01:59:44.000 And so, I appreciate this long discussion.

01:59:45.000 And I love you guys.

01:59:47.000 I'm gonna go spend time with my family.

01:59:49.000 But I don't know.

01:59:50.000 We should continue to investigate this.

01:59:51.000 And I appreciate you all.

01:59:53.000 Please follow me at RealAlexJones on Instagram.

01:59:55.000 I appreciate everybody.

01:59:57.000 Appreciate Alex.

01:59:57.000 Thank you for taking your time out to come on the space and answer a number of questions both for and against you.

02:00:06.000 We did have a number of questions from both sides.

02:00:09.000 I think we gave the space some justice because, and that's what makes it different, because there has been spaces, Alex has been spaces himself on this, but what we did different was we provided a conversation from both sides, debate from both sides, and I think there was a lot of tough questions asked to Alex, and there was a lot of people who also defended Alex's position and provided the other side.

02:00:30.000 We are going to be wrapping up the space now, unless, yeah, we are going to be wrapping up the space now.

02:00:36.000 Any last comments before we wrap up, Sarah?

02:00:42.000 Other than Suleiman, you did an awesome job.

02:00:44.000 Yes, of course.

02:00:45.000 That doesn't even need to be said.

02:00:48.000 Can you hear me?

02:00:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:00:51.000 The world can hear your accurate statement.

02:00:53.000 Thank you, thank you.

02:00:54.000 No, I thought it was a good conversation.

02:00:57.000 Reading the comments, you know, Alex Jones, you either love him or hate him.

02:01:03.000 There is no in-between.

02:01:04.000 I've not met one person that says, oh, Alex Jones, oh, I don't really know about him or their feelings about him.

02:01:11.000 I thought it was a good and balanced discussion.

02:01:14.000 If anything, there were more against than were for Alex Jones.

02:01:22.000 You know, that sort of warmed my heart a little bit, I won't lie.

02:01:27.000 But thank you, Silly Mom.

02:01:28.000 Thank you for an excellent job, and I'll send it back to you.

02:01:33.000 Thank you for that, Sarah.

02:01:34.000 I appreciate you guys.

02:01:36.000 I think it was really good.

02:01:37.000 I think we got a lot of information, a lot of people pushed back.

02:01:40.000 Then at the same time, a lot of people also defended.

02:01:42.000 I appreciate you guys joining in.

02:01:44.000 I appreciate you guys listening.

02:01:46.000 I'm for sure we will see you next time.

Alex Jones Show - June 17, 2024

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