In this episode of the Jeff Davis Show, host Jeff Davis sits down with Alex Jones to discuss the dangers of the "Big Lie of the World" and how to expose it. Alex Jones has been a long time member of the Conspiracy Theorists movement and has been involved in exposing the Big Lie since the early days of 9/11.
00:00:24.000They are very dedicated, and they definitely do a fantastic job.
00:00:30.000I want to just mention, first off, folks, that before we get started, the heavy-duty stuff here.
00:00:36.000Now, we've got a lot of informative materials from the Foreign Affairs, many different publications that we're going to be talking about here tonight.
00:00:47.000But basically, what we're going to be exposing here, folks, to you, is the big lie of the world.
00:00:54.000And it encompasses many different facets.
00:01:00.000Many facets concerning as far as diversions that they use, how they're setting up a police state, and they are now federalizing our local police departments.
00:01:15.000The total plan, going back from Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the Illuminati of 1776, and beyond that, how we believe due to the resistance and those Pesky Americans.
00:01:30.000We have the One Worlders slightly behind schedule for what they are trying to accomplish here.
00:01:39.000And without any further ado, I want to welcome to the Jeff Davis program here tonight, Mr. Alex Jones.
00:01:45.000Alex Jones, welcome to the program, sir.
00:01:50.000Let me just bring you in, Alex, briefly.
00:01:53.000We've got a lot of things we want to talk about here tonight, or today.
00:01:57.000And I believe this has the potential of a very dynamic show.
00:02:04.000I want to just ask you briefly as far as a little bit about yourself, just a little bit, and then basically how and why did you get involved in this type of information, this type of movement?
00:02:18.000Well, Jeff, I don't claim to be an angel, and nor does anybody in this movement.
00:02:24.000That's what's impressed me about people.
00:02:38.000They never really indoctrinated me on anything.
00:02:41.000They said, you think whatever you want, Alex.
00:02:44.000And then I just, when I got to be about 18, probably about 17 years old in high school, I would see the Channel 1 being beamed in from Washington, telling us America was bad and socialism was good.
00:02:58.000I would hear all this ridiculous shenanigans, and I wasn't sure.
00:03:03.000And I would watch how things worked, and I've just got half a brain, really.
00:03:07.000And I could see the manipulation, and I could see the lies.
00:03:10.000And once somebody's lied to me repeatedly, Jeff, I'm not going to...
00:04:05.000Then I saw the big picture, because...
00:04:11.000I guess it was the respect I had for the media.
00:04:14.000Not an outright respect, but I grew up with my parents and grandparents, seeing them watch television and respect what people said because they're good people and they thought the people on television were like them, decent people.
00:04:25.000We judge the people around us kind of by the way we are.
00:04:31.000And if you're a good person, you're pretty trusting.
00:04:33.000And then at a certain point, when I saw the media begin to even admit this stuff, And act like, hey, what's wrong with the police state?
00:04:43.000Hey, what's wrong with the totalitarian behavior?
00:04:46.000Then I began to respect you a lot more, and the more I've read into this information, when I find out the photographs right here of the UN burning Somali children that we'll show later, and when I took a trip around the country just three months ago, my documentary will be out soon, and I saw for myself, Jeff, I saw for myself...
00:05:34.000It is, Alex, actually a very hard paradigm to reach.
00:05:43.000Because as we were talking outside, and I'm just going to be very blunt with you and the viewers of this program, I had mentioned to you that when I was 34 years old, after a couple of years of research on this, I basically woke up to the understanding that this whole thing, everything I had taught, everything I had been taught.
00:06:09.000It is very hard to accept that the whole world is a lie.
00:06:12.000But essentially, the more that you study it and the more you start to see it, you realize that basically we are essentially not really in control of our own destiny.
00:06:24.000Other people are deciding and manipulating things and if they allow us to gain some materialistic things and allow us to...
00:06:33.000Proceed with some things, then we'll have it.
00:06:36.000But essentially, we are not in control of our own destiny.
00:06:45.000Because, you know, if they've bought into the life for so long as I did for 34 years, you know, it's hard to accept.
00:06:51.000Let me just talk to you a little bit, Alex, about the...
00:06:57.000You know, we were talking privately, and I want to keep it at that.
00:07:01.000Because I think we're very effective when we sit around privately and talk about this stuff.
00:07:07.000I think that would be the most powerful discussion we could have here tonight.
00:07:13.000But we talked about some of the things that the enemy, and that's what they are.
00:07:17.000We're not going to spend a lot of time on this program, this special program here tonight, talking about the enemy.
00:07:24.000Anybody that studies that knows it's the Federal Reserve and the World Bank and international bankers.
00:07:30.000What we want to talk about today is some of the tactics, some of the diversions, some of the mechanisms that the enemy has used to enslave us.
00:07:43.000It's very painful to see how people lap these lies up.
00:09:05.000And then when I saw that it is all a delusion controlled by corrupt crime interests, very sophisticated crime interests, to think of us as animals and useless feeders, as Ted Turner said.
00:09:16.000You know, now the reality is no one wants to talk about the UN. They're fixed and restrict our industrial output by 20%, but no one else has to do anything.
00:09:25.000The UN now owns part of ACTV. And people who just heard that, they won't check it out, that Ted Turner gave them a billion dollars in choice stock.
00:09:34.000The scary part is they don't care about us.
00:09:38.000They actually, as leaders, want to mutate us mentally.
00:09:42.000I don't mean in a genetic sense, but they want to give us the most low-level thoughts, teach us to be the most rat-like creatures that only care about the baseline.
00:10:51.000And again, I say this quite often because people need to understand.
00:10:53.000I don't want to endanger my family, but not my father or my mother, but other members of my family have been involved in the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:11:01.000And let me tell you, they're the ones.
00:11:03.000The whole drug war, police here in town have told me, it's all about controlling competition.
00:11:12.000Now, you know, there are several elements of diversions that what I believe the American people, the enemy, of the American people.
00:11:22.000Again, this is a world problem, so I'm just addressing the American people.
00:11:27.000Several diversions that the enemy of this world uses, one of them being the importation of drugs to control people's minds, the control of public schools, apathy.
00:11:41.000I want to have Alex touch upon that here in just a moment here.
00:11:44.000But there's many different, you know, social programs control people, taxes control people.
00:11:51.000Various different mechanisms that the enemy is using now.
00:11:55.000I want to, because we had talked about this privately before the program began here today.
00:12:06.000We sit and talk about this, and we have private discussions about this, and how a lot of people are just caught up in the Dallas Cowboys, they're caught up in the...
00:12:20.000You know, going to their job, Ted Koppel, Dan Rather, you know, football, going to bed.
00:12:26.000How do you believe, well, there's no belief about it, but what are some of the various mechanisms that you see that they have created to what I consider to be one of the greatest problems, and that just being basically make people apathetic to what's happening around them?
00:12:51.000Through the media and its well-packaged lies, they make people accept the false idea that they are part of the system, that they are part of the establishment, that they have a stake in the status quo.
00:13:08.000The status quo is dumbing down the public, brainwashing the youth, stagnating.
00:13:17.000The intelligentsia into a click of twits.
00:13:23.000And everything is looks and glamour and glitz.
00:13:26.000No one really, you know, the oldest saying, and it used to be a great saying, and you never hear it anymore, is never judge a book by its cover.
00:13:33.000You need to read deep into that book before you know what's going on.
00:13:35.000And maybe that's one of the beauties of my life, is I've been lucky enough to have been taught, made a lot of mistakes, but to...
00:14:15.000People sit around for hours instead of talking about politics and their families' lives and how they can move forward and how they can be an active part in the real world of geopolitics and real politics.
00:14:27.000Rather, they're taught to be obsessed with a little puck or a ball or a bat or a mitten and to know the whole science and the whole nuance of whatever cup of tea they lay out a whole platter.
00:16:16.000And I think that that's so appropriate.
00:16:18.000Every man dies, but every man doesn't live.
00:16:20.000I think there's a lot of people, men and women, in fact, that actually are literally just zombie types.
00:16:31.000But I don't want to get into a discussion of insulting people, but the fact is, folks, the fact is we've lost many of our rights here now in this country.
00:16:42.000And we're losing many of our resources, and many of you all still...
00:17:53.000And it's in front of my face, but that's okay, folks, because this is important information, and I don't care if my face is covered.
00:17:59.000Go ahead, Alex, tell us a little bit about what this is all about here, what this magazine is stating.
00:18:04.000Basically, people figured out a long time ago, from the time of the first kings, that It's the man that has the guard, the force, the power, and who is willing to squash his subjects who has the control.
00:18:16.000And they figured out it doesn't matter who's got the best ideas or anything.
00:18:21.000What matters is if you've got the force and the control of resources.
00:18:25.000And America is in a struggle for its very lifeblood right now.
00:18:30.000This month, by the time this program is airing, it will be going on live.
00:18:34.000Al Gore is going to go to Kyoto, Japan.
00:18:36.000He's going to restrict our fossil fuel and power intake up to 20% and no one else has to comply with anything.
00:18:43.000America has to have tariffs against it of upwards of 15% in every other country, but we have a 2% on average on other countries.
00:18:50.000America has to deal with no environmental laws in other countries and no human rights, but we have all that, which is good.
00:18:58.000It is a de-industrialization plan, not by accident, not by folly.
00:19:03.000These people have the power because they're premeditated and they're evil.
00:20:27.000Keep bumbling along and they'll just laugh at you.
00:20:31.000The only question is in all of this, and I'll ask that question at the end because that's the pivotal question that I know many people are asking.
00:20:41.000But I want to just, first off, folks, you have to understand that basically this current problem goes back to 1776, and I'm not going to linger into all of that, because we've got a lot of information here that we want to get into, a lot of different sources of information.
00:20:55.000Yes, we have photographs of the UN burning little children.
00:20:57.000All right, we've got a lot of different things here, and I want to just stay on target here.
00:21:03.000But this current problem actually does go back to 1776, and I want to just mention one other thing here, if I can find it.
00:21:10.000But basically, it was George Washington, many years ago, who came up with a quote that I want to read here to you, and I want Alex to kind of delve into the total plan of the people who control the system now.
00:21:31.000And I wanted to also mention, folks, that many of this stuff, too many of us, including myself at times, and I know Alex at times, has made statements like this stuff is coming, this is coming, and you know, the fact is we're living in a new world order now and have been for a long time.
00:21:48.000I mean, many of our young people have been...
00:23:19.000You know, I talked this week about the October, or last week, about the October 31st issue of the movie section of The Statesman.
00:23:29.000And they had, they told you Boogie Nights is good, they told you this is good, and fine, go see, you know, whatever, those movies are whatever.
00:23:35.000And below it, they had a story about Red Corner, talking about how China had no human rights and how it's bad.
00:23:40.000And in the review, it said, wait a minute, China wouldn't have let off O.J. Simpson, their military tribunals wouldn't have let off O.J. Simpson, and they might have even roughed up the lawyers for taking the case.
00:23:51.000Wait a minute, what's wrong with that?
00:23:54.000So you talk about being in the system, we're beginning to see the heat turned up as these minions openly espouse We need totalitarian, authoritarian, fascism, slash, thug, whatever.
00:24:12.000Well, it was the media that gave us the O.J. Simpson case in its grand splendor and showed us how terrible it was.
00:24:18.000They are indoctrinating us, programming us, shock therapy, as you call it, to just throw ourselves prostate on the lap of the state and beg for total control.
00:24:31.000Our public schools are just filled with either mindless or...
00:24:37.000Yes, technicians that the kids only care about the shoes and the clothes.
00:24:41.000And other than that, they learn the UN's a great thing and the world government's going to save us.
00:24:46.000Because if we don't give up all our rights to some world union of socialism, controlled by corrupt interest, you know, socialism for the poor, free market for the rich, if we don't turn that over to them...
00:25:51.00012,000 years ago in northern Texas, because of boulder fields and the way stones are arranged and because of the geological record, That there were massive, mile-thick glaciers 12,000 years ago in the Panhandle of Texas.
00:26:05.000The Earth has been warming for 12,000 years.
00:26:10.000We're on about an 18,000-year cycle of ice age and warm-up.
00:26:17.000And if they can get us, because of natural process, to give up our rights, let me assure you, socialism isn't going to save the environment.
00:26:26.000In fact, look at the worst countries in the world for the environment.
00:26:29.000It's always socialist countries, communist countries.
00:28:49.000Let me ask you, is it because of just different forms that you've seen, in your opinion, that's increasing your enlightenment to this, or is it just because of different actions that the other side has?
00:29:09.000Well, you've talked about how they would rather keep the move towards total police state and control.
00:29:15.000Because that's what they're at for total power of everything, and then it will only go in more successive waves because they're sick mentally.
00:36:03.000Every time I hear the UN, it's like they're trying to save somebody.
00:36:06.000And when I heard that these U-2 spy planes were going over to Iraq, I heard that they were under UN control.
00:36:13.000I mean, anybody that doubts the power of the U.N., you've got Ted Turner, the biggest communications mogul in the world, giving them control of his network in Europe, giving them a billion dollars in stock of Time Warner here in the U.S. You've got...
00:37:23.000The corrupt bankers will own everything.
00:37:25.000Basically, it's the debt-usury-money system.
00:37:29.000Now, I want to just fine-tune this now.
00:37:32.000Jeff, you were on my radio show a couple weeks ago, and I want to talk about something beautiful you said.
00:37:37.000For years, you've been being called by the dupes, and even halfway by me, you've been being called a little goofy, a little quirky, out of control, talking about these black helicopters, the federalization.
00:37:51.000Of our local police departments, the centralization, the Joyce and Stunstoffel 1997 version.
00:37:59.000Well, let's show those black helicopters from the Lair News Hour from September 23, 1997, where they admit black helicopters for surveillance of the public under federal control by the local police departments, and then it shows local SWAT team commanders saying it's top secret.
00:38:16.000I don't know whether I should ask you this or not now.
00:38:48.000I knew where your place was a couple roads down, and right over your apartment was hovering a small jet black helicopter directly over your apartment.
00:38:57.000As I turned in, the helicopter continued to hover.
00:39:01.000Your son heard me honking violently to get you to come out, but you were on the telephone with somebody, and it streaked off.
00:39:08.000And then when I told you, you had witnesses that it happened several years ago when you were running for Congress.
00:39:17.000You said this was the little black, shiny peapod one.
00:39:21.000And the scary part is, is now Lair NewsHour is admitting that all local police departments have these for surveillance of the general population.
00:39:32.000It's federally controlled, but instituted by local police departments and the SWAT team people, and the police say it's top secret and they won't talk about it.
00:39:46.000That's the one thing I want to emphasize.
00:39:47.000If nothing else comes out of this program here today, other than Alex is being very composed here today, and he's making a lot of good points, is the fact, folks, that we are not just in a situation where we are.
00:40:06.000Yeah, we're in trouble and have been in trouble for a long time.
00:40:08.000And in the next few years, it's already starting to happen with access television and FM radio, and AM radio is being consolidated by insurance companies and banks, and even if people have got ratings...
00:40:37.000But the important part is, Jeff, is that people don't trust a lot of the things.
00:40:42.000And frankly, like you say, I don't care if they believe it anymore because I've seen it.
00:40:45.000I don't know if your producer, Mike, who does a fantastic job, wants to rewind it to the point where it first shows the helicopters on the pad and just play 15 seconds where they admit on Lair NewsHour that it's black helicopters.
00:40:59.000That it's local, that it's controlled by the feds, and that it's for surveillance of the people.
00:41:05.000Just between you and me, Alex, I don't even care about a layer of news hour.
00:41:57.000And this is what I started waking up before I even got my Access television show and then got good enough to get an FM radio show.
00:42:02.000I was sitting there, and I was oil painting, watching this defense appropriation.
00:42:07.000And I saw this lady come forward, a Democrat from a Loving, and Republicans do it too, but a Loving, they always use the Lovings, from California.
00:42:15.000She introduced $8 billion for urban warfare training centers and stockade facilities.
00:42:23.000That was just what they built in 1996. $8 billion.
00:42:26.000They take old military facilities, bases, all those closings.
00:43:01.000The reason they have to do it is the same reason we have to go over to Bosnia to do stuff.
00:43:05.000Because our American troops probably won't want to fire on U.S. citizens, even though they've asked them to do it, in the questionnaires and the Marines and other things.
00:43:12.000So they're going to have to import occupation forces.
00:43:16.000And see, I used to think you were nuts when you said this, but now I see the U.N. preparing to restrict our fossil fuels.
00:43:22.000The U.N. has put up signs at the national parks that it's controlled by them.
00:43:37.000I want to get the last ten minutes here to keep our schedule here.
00:43:40.000It's very possible that the UN folks itself could be a diversion, and they could implement something like Chinese forces or something, Russian forces or something.
00:43:51.000In fact, who was the old Federal Reserve Chairman?
00:43:58.000Paul Volcker called just last month on C-SPAN. He called for something stronger than the U.N. He said the U.N. has outlived its usefulness.
00:44:06.000We need something stronger, something more militarized.
00:46:55.000I mean, this is all prediction, and it's all kind of...
00:46:58.000I normally don't like to get into this, but do you see that they are on target, behind schedule, and either or, do the American people and the world's people as a whole...
00:47:13.000Do you believe that we have a chance of turning this thing around?
00:47:17.000I believe that, like you said, we're already in this corrupt paradigm of delusion that they've created for us with slick packaging and psychology and conditioning.
00:47:28.000But as we enter deeper into this system, as history has always done, the key is these forums may be shut down in the future.
00:47:36.000The important point is to get enough information out now.
00:47:39.000So that there is still a kernel of information, of seed there, buried there so that people can reach back and remember and get enough information.
00:47:50.000When you said chips in the hands and all that, a lot of people probably laugh and I don't care anymore.
00:47:56.000Because they've been thumb scanning people in Texas since 93 for driver's license or renewal.
00:48:01.000And Bill Clinton ordered in 96, if the states want their highway funds, by late 98 in most large states, urine and blood testing clinics for everyone.
00:48:30.000It tells them how to put the clinics in.
00:48:32.000It tells them how to raise money for it, partially out of tickets and from the federal grants.
00:48:35.000And if we want our money for our highways that they take from us, we're going to have to do this.
00:48:41.000Man, if they want to start urine and blood testing us, and that's openly in the public now, even though you have no criminal record, you're not innocent until proven guilty, it's an invasion of privacy.
00:48:51.000You can extract all types of information for people.
00:48:54.000Yes, DNA, you name it, the insurance companies will be buying it up feverishly, and people will be losing, yes, and the elite's very hung up on that.
00:49:02.000See, I didn't used to, and now they, and again, a few years ago...
00:49:05.000You didn't used to believe any of this.
00:49:06.000Listen, a few years ago, we were kooks to talk about black helicopters.
00:50:21.000Yeah, basically, they're told something one day, and they believe that, and then the news, the so-called news, will come out with something completely different the next day.
00:51:07.000Who are you to say what's right and wrong?
00:51:08.000Well, I assure you out there, If I come up to you, Jeff, or let's say you're tied down and I come up and stick an axe in your head, you know that was wrong.
00:51:34.000That's still wrong in our culture, but not for long.
00:51:36.000We'll seem to be like an Aztec or a Babylonian society where we sacrifice our children to the government or to whatever God the government gives us.
00:51:43.000We're in this sick group psychology where we're totally losing Losing it with the basic human cord that's there.
00:52:33.000I want to mention that for the viewers out here of the Jeff Davis Show, I don't know whether I can do this or not, but if you like the pro...