Alex Jones Show - March 28, 2001


Alex Jones exposes Paid Anti Gun Testimony


Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

176.92308

Word count

1,725

Sentence count

156

Harmful content

Misogyny

3

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Hate speech

4

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Alex Jones gets paid for testifying in favor of gun control reform in Texas. Alex Jones talks about his experience at the Texas State Capitol and how he got paid for his testimony. Alex also talks about the Million Momma March and how they got him to do it.

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00:00:00.000 We'll be right back.
00:00:01.000 This is the payoff at the Capitol of last week that the state's been whitewashed.
00:00:04.000 Stay with us.
00:00:08.000 So, you guys have paid for your testimony?
00:00:10.000 Nope.
00:00:11.000 Well, we just saw the gentleman give you money.
00:00:14.000 It doesn't matter.
00:00:16.000 Traveling expenses, baby.
00:00:19.000 So, you guys with a million mark?
00:00:21.000 No.
00:00:22.000 Wait a minute, who are you with his camera in here? 0.73
00:00:24.000 No, he's a guy who has some Austin show.
00:00:28.000 He has a TV show here in Austin.
00:00:29.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:00:31.000 Actually, it's campaign contributions.
00:00:34.000 Campaign contributions.
00:00:35.000 Yeah.
00:00:35.000 Man, nobody's getting paid for nothing.
00:00:37.000 What I said in there, that's what I feel for my heart.
00:00:39.000 Well, I mean, who gave you the money?
00:00:41.000 It doesn't matter.
00:00:42.000 The money I've been in, I've got money all over.
00:00:43.000 Looks like what I saw.
00:00:44.000 This gentleman giving you money?
00:00:46.000 I gave him.
00:00:46.000 You got traveling expenses.
00:00:48.000 And I saw you testify, sir.
00:00:50.000 Yeah.
00:00:51.000 You were here with Nina Butts, funded by George Soros, the foreign currency speculator.
00:00:58.000 So this is how business is done.
00:01:00.000 Man, who are you?
00:01:01.000 I'm Alex Jones.
00:01:05.000 Firehouse purchaser and seller to miners.
00:01:08.000 Oh really?
00:01:09.000 I didn't know I was in that business.
00:01:10.000 I thought I was a radio talk show host.
00:01:12.000 But really?
00:01:12.000 Oh, that's an effective deal.
00:01:14.000 So you guys are taking over the country now, right?
00:01:16.000 Nope.
00:01:17.000 You are, dude.
00:01:18.000 Just as soon as people are disarmed, right?
00:01:20.000 Just like Hitler. 0.96
00:01:21.000 Right.
00:01:22.000 So how much did he pay you?
00:01:23.000 It looked like thousands to me.
00:01:25.000 It was.
00:01:25.000 It was 20,000.
00:01:26.000 Well, I saw wads of 20s and 100s.
00:01:29.000 I had to get my camera.
00:01:30.000 I was across the holder.
00:01:32.000 The police told us about it.
00:01:34.000 We're going to go buy a lot of guns, and we're going to come back and sell them to the NRA. Hey, we're making it so hot that we're going already.
00:01:39.000 Remember, Hitler was for gun control, guys. 0.94
00:01:41.000 Hitler was for gun control. 0.98
00:01:42.000 And if I ever catch him on my block, I'm going to shoot him.
00:01:46.000 So how did the Million Mom March get in touch with you?
00:01:49.000 We're not even...
00:01:51.000 You said the name of a group you were with.
00:01:53.000 Young Texas Against Gun Violence, baby.
00:01:57.000 Recognized.
00:01:57.000 And you get paid to do it, huh?
00:01:59.000 Nope.
00:01:59.000 We get a stipend.
00:02:00.000 We get a stipend for volunteering.
00:02:02.000 From who?
00:02:03.000 From that old man?
00:02:04.000 That old man's our best friend.
00:02:06.000 Campaign contribution.
00:02:10.000 It's not my son.
00:02:14.000 It's not his son!
00:02:15.000 You just called little kids' names.
00:02:19.000 You don't want to lose your 4'8 shooting glove, do you?
00:02:25.000 No, I don't.
00:02:27.000 Well, there's a little bandage where they won't be able to train you how to shoot.
00:02:29.000 And that's their goal.
00:02:31.000 Yep.
00:02:33.000 And so you guys were the 4-H shooting club.
00:02:34.000 Yeah, we're here for the useless.
00:02:37.000 And you've been waiting all day and they wouldn't even let anybody talk.
00:02:39.000 So they had all the Nina Buttses up there first. 1.00
00:02:41.000 Unbelievable.
00:02:42.000 I saw you paying those people off, your guy.
00:02:44.000 Paying those guys from Houston hundreds.
00:02:46.000 Excuse me.
00:02:47.000 Excuse me.
00:02:48.000 I have a hundred dollars.
00:02:50.000 I caught him on tapes.
00:02:52.000 They're caught, lady. 0.99
00:02:53.000 Really?
00:02:54.000 Who are you talking about?
00:02:58.000 What did you see?
00:02:59.000 Because across the hall, I saw wads of money.
00:03:01.000 I ran to get the camera, and I missed it, and I came back, and I caught him, and he hid the money.
00:03:06.000 She told me that the woman... 1.00
00:03:10.000 We went over there, and he was counting them out, the money.
00:03:14.000 I saw 120. We think he gave each guy, like, $400, right?
00:03:20.000 Well, no.
00:03:20.000 All I saw was $400 that I saw him count out.
00:03:24.000 A lot of you guys are looking from the outside in.
00:03:28.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:03:29.000 You guys are looking in on the situation and you guys are living it day to day.
00:03:34.000 I have friends who sell guns, who buy guns from people who go to the gun shows and get guns at large quantities.
00:03:42.000 You know, I mean, I know all these people.
00:03:44.000 I live there, where all this is going on.
00:03:47.000 And, I mean, you guys might think That they already have everything under control, but it's not.
00:03:55.000 I mean, regardless if we pass this law or not, things might change, but this right here, this bill, all three of these bills, this is just the beginning.
00:04:07.000 Because there's bigger threats out there and there's bigger laws that we need to focus on that aren't being enforced in America.
00:04:14.000 But these three house bills right here, this is...
00:04:19.000 Just the beginning, from all forward.
00:04:24.000 And like I said, you guys are looking, most of you guys are looking out from the outside because I'm there.
00:04:31.000 I'm there every day.
00:04:32.000 I've even gone into researching.
00:04:33.000 I don't even want to know where these companies are located at none of that.
00:04:37.000 But...
00:04:38.000 But then what makes you think that they're selling guns?
00:04:41.000 Who else is going to get them?
00:04:43.000 They don't have a factory in the hood where they're making guns.
00:04:46.000 You don't think some of those guns might be stolen?
00:04:50.000 They're not, man, how can, where are you going to get too many stolen guns from?
00:04:55.000 From 200 houses in a year, 10 houses in a year.
00:04:58.000 I see nobody, nobody says, all right, nobody.
00:05:01.000 Thank you.
00:05:02.000 So, I'm sorry, just wanted to clarify.
00:05:05.000 I think what I'm hearing you saying that at least one source of these guns on the street is the gun show.
00:05:10.000 Yes.
00:05:11.000 Thank you.
00:05:14.000 First question I would like to ask is, do we have an epidemic of gun violence because the performance of the legislation It delays the very well-intended and sincere testimony from my March members and others would lead to believe we have an epidemic of gun violence.
00:05:28.000 That is not the case.
00:05:29.000 Texas and the United States are safer than they have ever been.
00:05:33.000 I won't go into detail.
00:05:34.000 If you look through the clipping file here that has information from the National Center for Health Statistics and the Center for Disease Control, U.S. gun deaths at lowest since mid-'60s, you'll see that we do not have an epidemic of gun violence.
00:05:53.000 Payments made to backers of gun bills.
00:05:57.000 Questions arise over cash given to three witnesses who support gun show background checks.
00:06:02.000 Proponents of gun owners' rights asked lawmakers Friday to investigate cash payments made to three Houston men who appeared before a House committee this week to support bills that would require instant background checks at gun shows.
00:06:15.000 Dave Smith, president of Houston-based Texans for Gun Safety, A known front that is funded by Hanger Control Incorporated said he gave the three members of Young Texans Against Gun Violence, Nina Butts' group is Texans Against Gun Violence, about 300 each to cover their expenses and lost wages for the trip.
00:06:33.000 All three men, however, said they are currently unemployed.
00:06:37.000 So they can't get their lies straight.
00:06:39.000 That's lie number four right there.
00:06:42.000 It was reimbursement for their jobs, but they're unemployed.
00:06:45.000 Otarius Kelly, 20, one of the witnesses said it is ridiculous that someone would raise concerns about their testimony.
00:06:51.000 It's against my morals, Kelly said.
00:06:53.000 An admitted gang member, by the way, in the Houston Chronicle.
00:06:58.000 There's another story about this in there.
00:07:00.000 Another witness agreed.
00:07:02.000 The money that was given to us was not to change our testimony, said Bruce Brown, 18, who did not speak to the committee but submitted a witness form that showed he supported the bills.
00:07:11.000 Smith, who gave the men the cash just outside the committee hearing room, said Young Texans Against Gun Violence is an arm of his group.
00:07:18.000 The subsidiary group receives donations from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development.
00:07:23.000 And the Alliance for Justice.
00:07:25.000 Those groups encourage young people to get experience in the political process, Smith said.
00:07:30.000 Yeah, right.
00:07:31.000 Reimbursing witnesses for travel expenses is not unusual, said Susie Woodford of Common Cause Texas, a group that monitors government ethics.
00:07:39.000 But she said other witnesses using cash and paying for witnesses, time raises ethical questions.
00:07:44.000 It totally undermines the witnesses' credibility, Woodford said.
00:07:50.000 I got here.
00:07:52.000 I said, how will this look?
00:07:54.000 It says, complaints about the payments began circulating after Austin-based talk show host Alex Jones, who was at the House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee, meeting Tuesday, aired videotape interviews with Smith and the young men.
00:08:08.000 They told Jones the money was reimbursement, stipends, and campaign contributions.
00:08:13.000 So, three different stories.
00:08:14.000 It's like the famous scene in a movie.
00:08:16.000 Where are you guys going?
00:08:17.000 What are you doing?
00:08:19.000 Going to see my mother, going to get something to eat, going to the moon.
00:08:23.000 It's just making it up.
00:08:25.000 Head of Gun Owners Alliance has asked his thousands of members to seek a house investigation of the payments and to have the hearing disregarded.
00:08:34.000 Smith said complaints are being raised because the young men are minorities.
00:08:37.000 Jones, a strong supporter of gun owners' rights, said Smith was trying to cover up his dirty activities by making accusations of racism.
00:08:43.000 He's sitting here, caught on tape, throwing out different stories and giving out money, said Jones, who mentioned the payments during his testimony against the proposal to require background checks at gun shows.
00:08:53.000 How dare he try to divert attention by saying, I'm a racist?
00:08:57.000 Committee members Rick Green, R. Dripping Springs, and Juan Hena Hosa.
00:09:00.000 McAllen said they were uneasy about taking Jones seriously because of other inflammatory comments he has made.
00:09:06.000 Hinojosa, the chairman of the committee, said that although he didn't know details about the payments, he is not concerned if the witnesses are compensated for testifying.
00:09:13.000 Hinojosa said lobbyists are compensated for their work to influence policy on behalf of other interests.
00:09:18.000 Maybe these kids were paid for their travel, but I don't see anything improper about it, Hinojosa said.
00:09:23.000 It is part of the process.
00:09:24.000 It is part of open government.
00:09:25.000 State law requires people who are paid more than $1,000 in three months or who spend more than $500 a quarter trying to influence legislation or agency action to register as lobbyists.
00:09:35.000 So you broke the state election laws, bud.
00:09:37.000 You're not a lobbyist.
00:09:38.000 We checked.
00:09:39.000 Smith said not reimbursing witnesses for lost wages would mean average Texans would be left out of legislative debates.