Alex Jones Show - Alex Jones Exposing Corruption

00:00:00.000 Democrats are going to save us from guns. 0.98

00:00:01.000 I mean, it's just, it's one-sided.

00:00:03.000 And that's how they want it.

00:00:04.000 They want to make the so-called liberals, the dupes of the corrupt system, think that they're real liberals when really they're just con people.

00:00:11.000 Until we realize that Republicans and Democrats are the same people at the top, two sides of the same coin, puppet A and puppet B, we are not going to effectively change this until we are honest about who we're up against.

00:00:25.000 Okay.

00:00:25.000 I wanted to talk about the fires down in Mexico.

00:00:28.000 Huge military offensive.

00:00:29.000 Well, okay, first of all, you were talking about the Pat Moore's tapes?

00:00:34.000 Yeah.

00:00:35.000 Okay, those tapes that you're showing of that stuff going on, that's Guatemala, not...

00:00:39.000 No, you're wrong.

00:00:40.000 I think.

00:00:41.000 You're wrong.

00:00:41.000 Okay, okay.

00:00:42.000 She goes to Guatemala, El Salvador...

00:00:49.000 Nicaragua, but she spends most of her time in southern Mexico in the Chiapas areas. 0.97

00:00:54.000 See, I was making a documentary up here at AXS TV, so I was up here for about two weeks every day.

00:01:00.000 Well, Patricia, a lot of times when she gets back into town, is here every day working on things.

00:01:05.000 And when I was taking a break, she'd be out in the area on the dub rack making copies to send around the country to other AXS stations.

00:01:11.000 And I would say, where is this, where is that?

00:01:13.000 And I saw the tanks with the Mexican eagle on them, and I saw the guy dragging people out of a hut, and I saw her hiding in a hut, literally in a hut, with a policeman walking around with machine guns, and then it shows them digging up bodies.

00:01:27.000 That's Mexico. 0.67

00:01:29.000 Caller, you know there's been a war in Chiapas for three and a half years.

00:01:32.000 Now, that's mainstream.

00:01:33.000 Are you aware of the war in Chiapas?

00:01:35.000 Yeah, I stand corrected on that.

00:01:38.000 I want to say something about the fires, okay?

00:01:40.000 All that smoke to be getting there, right?

00:01:42.000 That can't just be from that offensive that's going on.

00:01:46.000 I'm not going to deny what the Mexican government's doing down there, and that some people are burning down land for marijuana, and maybe the Mexican government's burned a few villages.

00:01:57.000 In recorded Texas history, there's never been smoke like this coming from there.

00:02:01.000 It's never happened.

00:02:02.000 What are you talking about?

00:02:03.000 They've been having...

00:02:05.000 The Aztecs were having agricultural fires 2,000 years ago, or actually 1,500 years ago.

00:02:11.000 No, 600 years ago, but...

00:02:14.000 Well, I know all about the Aztecs.

00:02:15.000 They were a warrior tribe that took over the Toltecs and the mine and all that. 0.99

00:02:20.000 Same damn people, Indians down there, burning crops to put nitrogen back in the soil. 1.00

00:02:25.000 Yeah.

00:02:26.000 You see, what's going on, this thing of the fires and the burning that's been going on in Mexico, okay, this is something...

00:02:34.000 First of all, the conditions are a little extra drier than they need to be, and the El Nino has exacerbated it.

00:02:40.000 Okay.

00:02:41.000 Listen, listen.

00:02:43.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:02:44.000 Listen to me for a second.

00:02:45.000 The damn El Nino, they got everybody pulling their hair out.

00:02:48.000 There have been torrential floods and droughts.

00:02:51.000 There are cycles in human...

00:02:52.000 All I'm saying is...

00:02:54.000 Do you remember two years ago?

00:02:56.000 What?

00:02:57.000 When?

00:02:58.000 Two or three years ago in Austin, they said that we were having a drought.

00:03:01.000 It wasn't even a real drought.

00:03:03.000 Then they said...

00:03:03.000 Fly spell.

00:03:04.000 And then do you remember the floods for about a year?

00:03:08.000 Yeah.

00:03:08.000 That's how it works.

00:03:10.000 Floods, drought, floods, drought, two years of nice weather, meteor hits the planet, volcano blows up.

00:03:16.000 I mean, that's just life.

00:03:18.000 Well, let me...

00:03:18.000 But they panic you into giving up your rights under the guise of environmentalism.

00:03:23.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:03:24.000 Okay.

00:03:24.000 What I'm trying to say is, all right, just...

00:03:26.000 It is an exacerbating factor, the dry spell, and...

00:03:30.000 And the El Nino.

00:03:31.000 Okay.

00:03:31.000 But the burnings have been going on a long time.

00:03:34.000 And what people aren't telling you, and I'm getting most of this from a book put out by the Environmentalist Sierra Club called Endangered Mexico.

00:03:40.000 And it's a very recent book.

00:03:42.000 It's only about a year old.

00:03:42.000 Oh, boy.

00:03:43.000 I really trust that source.

00:03:45.000 Oh, well.

00:03:45.000 Sierra Club just bilked us for $3.9 million here locally, standard or whatever the standard real estate fee is of $65 million.

00:03:53.000 Hey, hey, hey.

00:03:54.000 What they're telling, if you would see what the Sierra Club is saying, Chiapas, right, has got a population explosion going on down there.

00:04:04.000 Yeah, we've got to kill the bad Indians. 1.00

00:04:05.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:04:06.000 We're loving environmentalists.

00:04:07.000 Hey, that's not what I'm saying.

00:04:08.000 Go ahead and finish.

00:04:09.000 They've got the population growth rate of Chiapas is twice that of Mexico at large, which is pretty high.

00:04:17.000 I mean, out of a CFR rag.

00:04:21.000 You believe that front group?

00:04:23.000 It's been going on a long time.

00:04:25.000 I've read this on other sources too, the population growth rates...

00:04:28.000 Well, of course we know the third world's population is exploding. 1.00

00:04:31.000 Yeah, so you have this exploding population.

00:04:33.000 I'm glad you accept this fact now.

00:04:34.000 The exploding population...

00:04:36.000 We've got to kill them.

00:04:37.000 I did not say that.

00:04:39.000 I'm for those people.

00:04:40.000 I'm for their right to live.

00:04:41.000 I don't like these UT professors that talk about killing people and Jack Kevorkian's a damn rock star.

00:04:47.000 Well, you're digressing, okay?

00:04:49.000 I'll digress all day.

00:04:50.000 This is all...

00:04:51.000 Listen, is this Steve?

00:04:52.000 Yeah.

00:04:53.000 Steve, I know you personally.

00:04:54.000 You're a good guy.

00:04:55.000 All I'm saying is that we know there's a military offensive.

00:04:57.000 We know there's a scorched earth policy.

00:05:00.000 We know the media's not down there showing us what's happening.

00:05:02.000 If it's just some ignorant natives, they'd be down there going, look at the ignorant native, look at the ignorant native, we need UN, UN. No, but look, you had the fires in Indonesia, remember that? 1.00

00:05:11.000 Steve, have you seen the footage I showed you of them holding black kids over fires? 1.00

00:05:15.000 Have you seen them cutting little black kids' heads off the UN? The UN stuff? 1.00

00:05:18.000 I'll play it again for you tonight if you want.

00:05:20.000 What, from the UN? Yeah, the UN. There were actual convictions in Belgian courts and in an Italian court, but the UN defended them the whole time.

00:05:28.000 Didn't want their UN deathmongers that were out genociding for some of the oil companies.

00:05:36.000 What was that?

00:05:37.000 That were out there genociding.

00:05:39.000 You can call back if you can get through.

00:05:41.000 That were genociding for some of the oil companies.

00:05:46.000 I've got photos of that actually happening.

00:05:50.000 I mean, that's serious.

00:05:53.000 We'll play that later.

00:05:55.000 Hello, you're on the air.

00:05:56.000 Hi.

00:05:57.000 Yes, I have a question that I have been dying to ask you for a really long time.

00:06:01.000 I've been watching you for a very long time.

00:06:04.000 Appreciate it.

00:06:05.000 I was wondering what you thought of the phallocentric nature of the economy of discourse.

00:06:13.000 Would you...

00:06:14.000 I'm not up on those terms.

00:06:18.000 Explain the phallocentric.

00:06:21.000 Are you saying that the...

00:06:22.000 That there's fallacies, that they're lying about the economy being good?

00:06:26.000 No, no, not fallacy as in an untruth, but phallocentric as in predominantly male-dominated and also white male-dominated.

00:06:35.000 And I notice you've been using a lot of words that would kind of tend towards that kind of domination of the language, and therefore it dominates the media, which you've been talking about.

00:06:45.000 It propagates all kinds of keeping people who are non-white males down. 0.73

00:06:52.000 You're saying I'm an angry white male?

00:06:54.000 No, I'm not saying that, sir.

00:06:55.000 I'm not saying that at all.

00:06:56.000 Well, actually, I am an angry white male, and I've got friends that are angry black males, and I know angry white women and angry Latino women, and we're all very angry. 0.64

00:07:04.000 But I... I'm not talking about white people or black people here.

00:07:10.000 I'm talking about organized crime rings, consolidating wealth criminally, and propagandizing the people out there.

00:07:15.000 I think what she's asking is why the majority of the nomenclature that you use is sort of slanted in that direction with all the terms that you use.

00:07:24.000 Is that kind of what you're trying to say?

00:07:25.000 You're saying I use...

00:07:26.000 I mean, language is language.

00:07:28.000 You're saying...

00:07:28.000 I'm not a linguist.

00:07:31.000 Hold on.

00:07:31.000 I'm not a linguist.

00:07:32.000 In fact, a linguist would catch me in occasional errors.

00:07:36.000 What I am is a person that understands models and sees systems.

00:07:39.000 And to me, there is no male vocabulary usage and linguistics.

00:07:48.000 And to me, there's no female.

00:07:50.000 Right, but do you consider language to be a system?

00:07:54.000 They can be manipulated.

00:07:55.000 Ma'am, maybe just to clarify a slight bit, what is your name, please?

00:07:58.000 Jill.

00:07:59.000 Okay, Jill, maybe you can give us a couple examples and point out exactly what you mean, and then Alex can refute that or agree with you, however it works out.

00:08:06.000 Okay, well, just for an example from tonight's program...

00:08:10.000 You said, made one comment, and I know that, you know, in the passion and the heat of the moment, because I know you're speaking about things you care a great deal about, you made the reference to some people go out and bang ten women or something a week, and do you not know the power behind language and how that can come across?

00:08:29.000 Yes, I meant it to come across that way.

00:08:31.000 That's what they do.

00:08:32.000 They go out and they do whatever their little heart desires.

00:08:36.000 I won't get into what Henry Kissinger likes to do, and it isn't.

00:08:39.000 It isn't having relations with women.

00:08:41.000 What is language?

00:08:42.000 Me being honest with you?

00:08:44.000 Is that more of an effrontery in the petty dichotomy and system than people destroying entire populations and subjugating and dumbing them down and creating false thought systems, mental illness in the population?

00:08:59.000 But where that all begins is with language.

00:09:00.000 Well, what's wrong with my language?

00:09:02.000 I just showed you I was talking about foul people. 1.00

00:09:05.000 So I said they want to go out.

00:09:06.000 I was talking about them.

00:09:07.000 I was using this rutting language.

00:09:10.000 I was discussing, yes, this sycophant...

00:09:14.000 European male filth, if you want to call them that, who have many females that are allies and all drink from the same cup. 1.00

00:09:22.000 Does that answer your question?

00:09:26.000 What is the cat for?

00:09:28.000 I don't quite get the reference for the cat.

00:09:30.000 Oh, I was going to get to this.

00:09:31.000 A nice lady, or a young lady, sent me this.

00:09:37.000 Are you still there?

00:09:38.000 Yes, you're gone.

00:09:39.000 A nice lady sent me this, and it has a little joke here, evil right-wing kitty. 1.00

00:09:45.000 And when I get back after this, I think I'll show you some artwork.

00:09:48.000 Her artwork is just incredible.

00:09:50.000 I mean, it's really, really nice.

00:09:53.000 And I'm impressed.

00:09:56.000 It's a very interesting style.

00:10:00.000 And she also sent me some classic, I always talk about Time and Newsweek, darkening OJ's face to create, you know, there you have it, evil, darkest Africa. 1.00

00:10:10.000 We are white women, a big diversion for a year. 0.99

00:10:13.000 See, this whole male-dominant stuff, it's all diversion.

00:10:17.000 But anyways, there you have the media trying to, you know, well, they're altering his photograph.

00:10:23.000 Under Ralph Reed of the Christian Coalition, they put a mustache on him.

00:10:28.000 Newt Gingrich, they made him into a goblin.

00:10:31.000 That was Newsweek or Time.

00:10:33.000 The Grinch that stole, you know, before he even did anything.

00:10:36.000 I mean, I'm not supporting Gingrich.

00:10:37.000 Gingrich is an obvious agent, even though he has some differing views from the establishment, but he's still establishment.

00:10:43.000 He's been brought under heel.

00:10:45.000 Some other interesting magazine covers.

00:10:47.000 Oh, here's what she thinks of Clinton.

00:10:49.000 This is funny right here.

00:10:53.000 You can't really see it.

00:10:54.000 It's so funny.

00:10:56.000 It says, the real face of Bill, sweaty beast.

00:11:01.000 But I'll show you some of her artwork when we get back.

00:11:04.000 I'll take one more call, and then we'll go to 15 minutes of General Benton Parton, and I'll play it over the next couple months, or month, the rest of it.

00:11:11.000 Hello, you're on the air.

00:11:12.000 Yes, Alex?

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:14.000 Yes, I was going to see what your views might be on the insurance corporations.

00:11:19.000 I seem to have had so many personal problems with it just being just a big farce and them trying to just squeeze every little dollar out.

00:11:28.000 And almost, I don't know if you would say...

00:11:32.000 Legally, I would say that.

00:11:34.000 I mean, I would love to give some examples.

00:11:36.000 I just want to hear your views.

00:11:38.000 Okay, thanks.

00:11:38.000 And I'll be happy to give you some examples of things that they've done to me.

00:11:41.000 Okay, just real fast.

00:11:43.000 We need to hurry up and do this.

00:11:45.000 What it comes down to is, and again, I'm not an expert of the insurance system, but I've talked to enough people that are actually in it.

00:11:51.000 It's there to maximize profits.

00:11:52.000 And the best way you can make profits is to have the government...

00:12:00.000 Legislate that people have to carry insurance instead of just holding them criminally responsible if they injure somebody.

00:12:06.000 And insurance is a good thing if it was free market.

00:12:09.000 Then you had Clinton in 92 try to take over the healthcare industry. 0.98

00:12:12.000 And the healthcare industry said, no, no, no.

00:12:14.000 We're not going to allow that by the federal government one-seventh of our economy.

00:12:19.000 But then the HMOs have done the same thing, and Clinton's implementing his policy, so we see it happening anyways.

00:12:25.000 They're just doing it piecemeal.

00:12:31.000 Well, the whole idea of insurance is you get all these people paying in knowing that only a few people are actually going to get some help out of it.

00:12:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:42.000 Well, the point is the insurance companies are making the biggest profits in history.

00:12:46.000 The biggest monolithic thing in our country, except for central banks, is the $12,200,000,000,000 that's in life insurance.

00:12:55.000 And people can argue, well, that's paid on claims, that's paid to people.

00:13:00.000 Nobody mattered on the Titanic but the people feeding the boilers and the captain driving the ship.

00:13:05.000 And see, that's the point.

00:13:06.000 These monolithic agencies, they tell you Bill Gates is the richest man in the world.

00:13:09.000 He's got his company, his $48 billion.

00:13:13.000 Compared to $12,200,000,000,000?

00:13:16.000 I mean, give me a break.

00:13:17.000 It's just...

00:13:18.000 People look at real monopolies or real oligopolies right in the face and go, oh, it's wonderful because the media didn't tell me about it.

00:13:25.000 And then they look at Bill Gates, who the dogs are after.

00:13:28.000 The government wants to take over for its buddies because Europe can't compete with him.

00:13:32.000 Well, the biggest problem I seemed to have with insurance was when they started requiring people to have it.

00:13:37.000 And then, let's say, I go on and I pay all these stupid premiums, you know, all the time, month after month.

00:13:43.000 And then I go out and get in a wreck, okay?

00:13:46.000 Some guy that doesn't have insurance.

00:13:48.000 So what happens?

00:13:49.000 He gets fined.

00:13:51.000 I have to pay a deductible, even though I'm still paying my insurance.

00:13:55.000 And where does that fine money go?

00:13:57.000 It goes to the government.

00:13:58.000 So I'm still out money, even though I've been paying all these premiums.

00:14:01.000 And then who gets the fine money?

00:14:03.000 The government.

00:14:03.000 It's highway robbery.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, it's highway robbery.

00:14:07.000 It's a THX 1138 scenario.

00:14:09.000 If you haven't seen the film, it'll tell you everything.

00:14:13.000 George Lucas, 1974. I mean, don't you think that as far as just about all crime, like when somebody commits a crime and they go to court and they're fined, don't you think that should go to the victim and not the government?

00:14:27.000 But the government's here to help you.

00:14:29.000 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 I mean, that's all I have to argue intellectually back at you is it's for the kids.

00:14:33.000 I mean, that's all they do.

00:14:34.000 And Clinton hugs Buddy the dog and flood victims. 0.98

00:14:37.000 I mean, the answer's the same.

00:14:38.000 People are sick of me saying that?

00:14:39.000 Well, that's what's in the paper every day.

00:14:40.000 Aren't you sick of this?

00:14:42.000 Aren't people sick of this?

00:14:43.000 Because they say the same thing every day.

00:14:45.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

00:14:47.000 Thank you.

00:14:47.000 We've got to reform this insurance system.

00:14:50.000 Okay, Hale, we'll go to these two calls, and then we'll go to the General Benton Parton.

00:14:55.000 Hello, you're on the air.

00:14:57.000 Mr. Jones.

00:14:58.000 Yes.

00:14:59.000 How are you tonight?

00:14:59.000 Pretty good.

00:15:00.000 I'm really glad I got to get through.

00:15:02.000 I like your show.

00:15:04.000 I enjoy it.

00:15:06.000 I'm fighting a battle myself with these people and the paperwork that these people send to you and attack you with, they try to turn you into a criminal.

00:15:18.000 What's the nature of the fight you're engaged in?

00:15:20.000 At all ends.

00:15:21.000 Everything from the Internal Revenue Service.

00:15:25.000 Let me say something.

00:15:30.000 We're all criminals.

00:15:31.000 They've written so many laws and so many codes.

00:15:34.000 We're all criminals.

00:15:35.000 It's just, when do they implement?

00:15:36.000 When do they decide to use that?

00:15:39.000 And they're picking on lower-income people.

00:15:43.000 And they're abusing them, me myself, as being one of them.

00:15:47.000 Listen, that's the fact.

00:15:48.000 They don't go after your upper-middle class except for a high-profile case like Willie Nelson.

00:15:54.000 See, Willie Nelson isn't rich.

00:15:55.000 He's upper-middle class.

00:15:57.000 You know, when you have families that have trillions of dollars, Willie Nelson's $20 million, $30 million, $40 million is chicken feed.

00:16:03.000 I mean, I am lower-middle class.

00:16:08.000 And just to hear, it's all false.

00:16:10.000 All our systems, our benchmarks are incorrect.

00:16:13.000 And they're raiding people making $25,000 to $30,000 a year.

00:16:16.000 They're abusing families.

00:16:17.000 And it's just so sick.

00:16:19.000 They see these so-called compassionate liberals who are non-liberals again.

00:16:23.000 They are just the most sickening dupes, the most feel-good, mindless robots that are in a peer-pressure cult.

00:16:31.000 And they're never getting out.

00:16:32.000 If you fight back, they...

00:16:35.000 It really can get mean, though.

00:16:37.000 They've taken my family away.

00:16:39.000 They've separated my family.

00:16:40.000 My children are with their mother.

00:16:43.000 I pay enormous amounts of child support.

00:16:45.000 I'm trying to operate the American Dream, my own business, and they've done nothing but take a big dump right on me and continue to try to squash me and keep me out.

00:16:58.000 Listen, I really appreciate your call, sir.

00:17:00.000 If you want to get me some information on it, maybe we'll try to do a story.

00:17:02.000 I have a letter that I've written, and I would love to work with you.

00:17:05.000 I'll send it to you.

00:17:06.000 All the time, I put up the comment line, 370-9558, or the mailing address, and I get some letters, quite a few, but usually it's not anything, you know, it's like you're doing a great job.

00:17:16.000 If people...

00:17:17.000 Know about any news stories or things where people are being abused or anything.

00:17:21.000 I need y'all to go around with cameras.

00:17:22.000 Just keep a camera in your car, right there in the back.

00:17:24.000 I would love to volunteer.

00:17:25.000 A snapshot camera is fine, or a video camera.

00:17:28.000 Whatever you can do, get me information.

00:17:31.000 I appreciate your call.

00:17:32.000 Thank you very much.

00:17:33.000 In fact, Barb Evans, who has a show here on AXS TV, who you would think differs from me politically.

00:17:39.000 She was coming down here to AXS TV on Chaconne and Rosewood, saw three...

00:17:46.000 White, unmarked vehicles with people in battle fatigues running around.

00:17:51.000 I mean, she just didn't know what was going on.

00:17:52.000 This was last week.

00:17:53.000 She just told me about it out in the hall before the show.

00:17:56.000 People who used to even disagree with me are coming around.

00:17:58.000 I'm not lying to you.

00:18:00.000 We'll play that Tony Brown clip as we leave the show tonight if you want to tape it.

00:18:05.000 One more call and we're going to General Parton.

00:18:07.000 You're on the air.

00:18:08.000 Okay.

00:18:08.000 This is my first time calling, and so be gentle with me.

00:18:12.000 Okay.

00:18:12.000 But I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to be discerning about this, and your topic is exposing corruption, and I've listened to you a lot.

00:18:18.000 I'm just trying to figure out how do we, that aren't as informed as you and the people that usually call you, how do we discern between the, and I'm sure I'm going to use the wrong terms, freedomists or the ones that are anti-government people that are exposing things, how do we discern between those that are like the separatists,

00:18:36.000 white power type groups, Well, you have to remember that most of your white power organizations, and I've, you know, from the most recent issue that even brought it out mainstream was the January issue Bumstir Awards of the Texas Monthly. 0.68

00:18:58.000 He did a several-page article about Jerry Spence, a...

00:19:02.000 Yeah, that lawyer.

00:19:04.000 No, no, not the famous lawyer.

00:19:05.000 This is an FBI long-term 15-year, 14-year informant, pretty much an agent incognito, was out trying to stir up and create Klan groups, create them.

00:19:16.000 He and his wife, were they the ones from Wyoming?

00:19:19.000 No, this was in Fort Worth.

00:19:22.000 Do you remember about a year and a half ago when you heard that the militia was going to blow up a chemical plant?

00:19:25.000 Okay, yeah.

00:19:26.000 Hey, number one, it wasn't militia, it was...

00:19:28.000 The people couldn't even tie their shoelaces. 0.86

00:19:32.000 They didn't even have any ammunition.

00:19:35.000 They barely had working firearms.

00:19:37.000 It consisted of Spence making bottle bombs out of black powder that would barely blow one of your fingers off, lighting them, and filming them lighting it, him with a video camera.

00:19:49.000 He actually made the bomb.

00:19:51.000 And you find out with the World Trade Center bombing, they went and taught the Muslims how to make the bomb and had Arab-speaking security agents from Egypt that we had trained to go make them build a building up. 0.99

00:20:03.000 What they do is they go out and they stir up people, white pride people, Muslims, whoever.

00:20:08.000 I don't see Muslims, extreme fundamentalist terrorist Muslims or whatever.

00:20:14.000 Back to the original question, Alex, which was...

00:20:16.000 How do you discern them?

00:20:17.000 I'm trying to tell her.

00:20:18.000 Well, nothing's simple.

00:20:19.000 Nothing's a soundbite, Buckley.

00:20:21.000 The point I'm trying to make is this.

00:20:24.000 You discern.

00:20:25.000 If somebody starts telling you, it's all the black people that's causing it, then you know automatically that this is somebody that's being sicked on a group of people that are being stopped on. 0.87

00:20:36.000 You want people who are going after the bullies, people that are putting light on the establishment, the secret government, people that are talking about the Federal Reserve.

00:20:44.000 But just...

00:20:46.000 Discern it for yourself.

00:20:48.000 I mean, it's really quite simple.

00:20:52.000 It doesn't need to be religious-based.

00:20:56.000 I'm not saying don't be a Christian or Hindu or whatever you are.

00:20:58.000 What I'm saying is not religious-based.

00:21:01.000 That's a diversion.

00:21:02.000 Have your religion and then have your politics.

00:21:04.000 What's Caesar's is Caesar's.

00:21:05.000 What's God's, God's.

00:21:06.000 I have a comment to make on this.

00:21:08.000 I think that if you truly are concerned about this, you're interested in it.

00:21:12.000 And you want to know the truth?

00:21:14.000 Number one, exactly what Alex is saying is follow your heart because truth rings true.

00:21:18.000 You can tell almost by looking at a person and considering their demeanor whether or not they're telling you truth.

00:21:24.000 And secondarily, I would highly suggest that you don't accept everything for face value immediately when you hear it.

00:21:29.000 You follow up on it.

00:21:31.000 You research it for your own self.

00:21:33.000 And that's about the only way that you will truly be convinced and understand exactly what is happening.

00:21:38.000 Look, basically it's this.

00:21:40.000 You got all these...

00:21:41.000 Loaded guns held in American people's heads.

00:21:44.000 Terrorist groups that they can activate at any time.

00:21:47.000 And that's why we may politically, we could probably over the next ten years, it's growing, oppose them nationwide and get some reform.

00:21:58.000 But they won't allow that.

00:21:59.000 If the CIA in Central and South America or in Asian country or the Middle East or even in parts of Europe wanted to take out a leader, They would blow up a building full of nuns or whatever and blame it on the opposition.

00:22:15.000 You know, they'd even shoot opposition in the head, throw the opposition out on the street, drive away right as they blow up the building and the guy's body's half destroyed.

00:22:24.000 They find a leg, you know, with the uniform of the enemy.

00:22:27.000 I mean, they've done it.

00:22:28.000 I should write up some case studies for you.

00:22:31.000 No, I believe it.

00:22:31.000 It's been done all over the place.

00:22:33.000 Well, it's a classic tactic.

00:22:35.000 Again, it was done by Hitler with the Reichstag. 0.88

00:22:37.000 Burn the Reichstag, blame it on the enemies.

00:22:40.000 Suspend the Constitution of Germany.

00:22:41.000 Take the guns.

00:22:43.000 Basically, it's that.

00:22:44.000 That's our biggest threat.

00:22:46.000 And I've got to go to this tape.

00:22:48.000 And thanks for the call.

00:22:49.000 I appreciate it.

00:22:50.000 The biggest threat is this, because I've got to get back from the tape and do my presentation.

00:22:56.000 The biggest threat is...

00:22:58.000 We force a political confrontation.

00:23:00.000 We're up front.

00:23:02.000 We get upstanding people like Tony Brown and Congressman Ron Paul and Alex Jones and General Parton and Ted Gunderson and Anthony Hilder and suddenly...

00:23:12.000 Clergymen start standing up and don't care about money anymore, just care about the truth, and quit insulting this group or that group about their sexual persuasion, which may be important, but it's still a diversion when you've got enemies coming down your streets, taking over your systems all around you. 0.99

00:23:29.000 So we've just got to get to the crisis first, put out the fires, and then deal with the other stuff.

00:23:33.000 We've gotten here culturally.

00:23:35.000 Now it's time to get the enemies out that have been spreading this information.

00:23:39.000 You don't...

00:23:39.000 Go downriver and try to spoon out the water.

00:23:43.000 You go to a place and dam it up.

00:23:46.000 That's what we've got to do.

00:23:46.000 We have to go upriver and dam up the enemy and hold them back.

00:23:50.000 And we can do that by knowing who they are, knowing what their plans are, knowing what they're planning to do.

00:23:57.000 Terrorism, to create fear, as tyrannical governments have always done.

00:24:02.000 I know I've been kind of ranting.

00:24:03.000 I do that when I'm on for hours.

00:24:05.000 We'll go to Benton Parton.

00:24:08.000 Again, there's a glitch in the tape, but don't worry about that.

00:24:10.000 It goes away in about 10 seconds.

00:24:12.000 And I'll be back in about 15 minutes to give you about a 10-minute presentation.

00:24:16.000 I'll be back focused to do about a 15-minute presentation about some solutions that we can carry out.

00:24:26.000 They're not easy solutions.

00:24:27.000 They're going to take backbone and work.

00:24:29.000 They're going to take people with discernment, as the lady was talking about.

00:24:33.000 I appreciate her call.

00:24:34.000 We'll talk about that, and then we'll take your phone calls.

00:24:39.000 This is exposing corruption every Tuesday night from 8.30 to 11 p.m.

00:24:45.000 Now, next year, I may not be able to get a two-hour show or whatever.

00:24:50.000 Next year, they may restrict us down to one-hour shows, I've been told, because of the INET or something with Time Warner.

00:24:57.000 So, I just appreciate everybody supporting AXS TV. This is a very important...

00:25:05.000 If you don't like what you're hearing here, you can come down and get your own show.

00:25:08.000 With that disclaimer said, here is somebody that's going to tell you about Oklahoma City, General Benton Parton.

00:25:14.000 We'll be right back.

00:25:15.000 Thank you so much.

00:25:16.000 I like that shirt.

00:25:17.000 I like it too.

00:25:18.000 Oh, they're right here.

00:25:19.000 Hold on.

00:25:20.000 Mike has an original.

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00:25:23.000 Come and take me.

00:25:24.000 No, come and make me.

00:25:25.000 That's right.

00:25:26.000 And guess what?

00:25:28.000 You can get those by calling 830-672-3089.

00:25:36.000 But how does somebody get that good a body, though?

00:25:40.000 That's what I want to know.

00:25:45.000 Bye!

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00:25:51.000 Bible prophecy. 0.63

00:25:52.000 As you can tell, we have an enthusiastic crowd here tonight.

00:25:55.000 The title of tonight's talk is Globalism, the Program.

00:25:59.000 Now, we look around and we see all kinds of things going wrong.

00:26:02.000 We see the Waco situation, the Oklahoma City bombing, Ruby Ridge.

00:26:07.000 Are all of these connected?

00:26:08.000 Are they all part of a well-laid-out program?

00:26:12.000 Well, you're going to find out that answer tonight.

00:26:15.000 Our speaker tonight spent 31 years in the Air Force where he earned the Distinguished Service Medal, the Legion of Merit.

00:26:22.000 Three times, he was a distinguished graduate of the Air War College.

00:26:26.000 He went on to research and development management, weapon systems concepts, guided weapons technology, target acquisition aids, focused energy weapons, operations research applications.

00:26:39.000 He directed 1,200 personnel who developed the Maverick missile system.

00:26:44.000 The optical laser and missile system, imaging infrared guidance system, precision location strike system, the fighter attack system, and a whole lot more.

00:26:56.000 His resume goes on for several more pages.

00:26:59.000 Tonight, he will tell us that in 1928, the Communists wrote the program to bring in the new world order. 0.72

00:27:07.000 And he says they're following it step by step.

00:27:11.000 By knowing where they have gone, and by looking ahead where they're going, we can see where we are today and what's coming.

00:27:19.000 Will you help me welcome General Ben Parton!

00:27:24.000 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.

00:27:33.000 I'm delighted to be here.

00:27:35.000 I know you may wonder why there's a retired Air Force General running around the United States talking about bombings and the Communist World Program.

00:27:45.000 But in 1947, in the National Defense Act of 1947, when the Air Force was separated from the Army, all of the development capability for developing weapons for air delivery stayed in the Army.

00:28:02.000 It did not go with the Air Force.

00:28:04.000 So in the early 1950s, the Air Force decided they were going to get back in the weapons development business to exploit new technology and overcome a lot of major operational efficiencies.

00:28:14.000 And they set up a program for bringing in a few graduate engineers into eight quarters of graduate work in armament engineering.

00:28:23.000 And I was one of the first six of those people.

00:28:26.000 They were trained quite extensively in all the gory details of weapons and munitions and explosives and the explosive training design and all the things that go with it.

00:28:36.000 And I stayed with that work for quite some time.

00:28:38.000 I flew 25 years in the Air Force, but most of my time in the Air Force was still in the research and development side of things.

00:28:48.000 After I attended this eight quarters of graduate work in armament engineering, they give you a master's degree in aeronautical engineering.

00:28:56.000 But the breadth of the course was actually given a master's in almost several other areas.

00:29:03.000 After I finished that work, I went to the ballistic research laboratories at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, because at that time that was fairly much the mecca of the conventional non-nuclear weapons development area in the United States, excluding the chemical and biological.

00:29:19.000 And I worked there for two years through several laboratories.

00:29:23.000 Most of my time was in the terminal ballistics area, and I spent most of the time there developing the continuous rod warhead for the Beaumont missile.

00:29:33.000 And the Beaumont, the continuous rod warhead is probably one of the most difficult and most complex warheads in the non-nuclear area, and probably second only to the pit design in nuclear weapons.

00:29:49.000 But this is a picture of a continuous rod warhead that was being tested out at China Lake.

00:29:57.000 And you have a circle there about 75, 100 feet, 150 feet across.

00:30:03.000 Probably the radius is about 75 feet.

00:30:05.000 And these panels around the periphery of that circle are sheet aluminum, 4 feet by 8 feet.

00:30:13.000 And you can see the The panels all around the circle are being cut, cut continuously around that circle about 150 feet in diameter.

00:30:24.000 The warhead has already functioned in the center.

00:30:28.000 That's about the extent of the expansion of the detonation products from the warhead.

00:30:32.000 And because you had the warhead was surrounded by heavy double layer of rods, metal rods, the detonation products went off to the end, the so-called end effect.

00:30:44.000 But I bring this up to show you what a continuous rod warhead is, because it's very significant with respect to TW800. Now, those rods, when the warhead goes off, you have an accordion expanding hoop or circle, moving out five or six thousand feet a second.

00:31:06.000 Cold roll hard steel rods, but they're all welded at alternate ends so that you have an expanding scissoring expansion of that circle, and it's continuous.

00:31:16.000 And the most difficult thing is to design the warhead so it is continuous and has the proper velocity.

00:31:23.000 Now, we had a shoot down of TW-800, and here's the results as shown in the Where they assembled that aircraft back together in the hangar up on Long Island.

00:31:39.000 And if you saw the continuous rod warhead, it would reach out pretty far.

00:31:44.000 If you had an aircraft out there, instead of those aluminum sheets, it would have sliced an aircraft into just as well as it would have those aluminum sheets.

00:31:52.000 Now, it was announced that it could not have been a missile that brought down TW-800.

00:31:59.000 Why?

00:32:00.000 Because they recovered all four engines, and none of the four engines showed any missile damage.

00:32:06.000 They had blinders on only thinking about IR-guided small missiles.

00:32:12.000 Shoulder-fired, aircraft-fired, or some other IR-guided missiles.

00:32:16.000 Well, an IR-guided missile is no good for all weather purposes.

00:32:19.000 And if you have an aircraft going to attack a city with an atomic bomb or an aircraft carrier, and it's in the suit, and it has capability to deliver the weapon with the radar, IR missiles are no good to me.

00:32:32.000 Okay, Alex Jones here.

00:32:33.000 Now, I know that this may seem a little boring.

00:32:36.000 It's a two-hour program.

00:32:37.000 I'm going to run like 15, 20-minute segments over the next couple months so you can just soak in all this information.

00:32:44.000 This is class.

00:32:45.000 This is school.

00:32:46.000 He's explaining weapons to you right now.

00:32:48.000 He's going to explain a little bit about Oklahoma City and then the European program for slavery.

00:32:54.000 So please stay tuned for this important information.

00:32:58.000 So we use this kind of warhead and many applications for surface-to-air missiles because they have an all-weather capability.

00:33:09.000 And if they're approximately fused and they can reach out quite a distance, you can have considerable inaccuracy in that guidance system and still destroy the target if the warhead and fusing system is compatible with the reach of the warhead.

00:33:25.000 And what you do is you have a fusing system that is looking off at an angle and when it intercepts the target, the missile fires and the rods go out and have an expanding hoop and slice across the aircraft just like a saver across the water mount.

00:33:39.000 Now you could use a fragmenting warhead, blast, what you call a blast frag warhead, and you send out instead of sending everything in a strong, long, continuous cut, you send it out in fragments You may punch a bunch of holes in something and you destroy maybe some systems in the aircraft, but you're not going to get a catastrophic structural failure unless you hit the system.

00:34:03.000 But with all weather guidance systems, you have longer wavelengths.

00:34:07.000 You're using semi-active or active radar, going after a beacon or a transponder or a carrier wave.

00:34:14.000 And you're dealing with longer wavelengths.

00:34:17.000 You have a small aperture on the missile, so you have accuracy problems.

00:34:21.000 And if you miss the aircraft 35 feet or 40 feet with that kind of warhead and with that reach and proximity fusing, you'll still slice it into it.

00:34:28.000 So it doesn't matter.

00:34:32.000 If you look at the TW-800, across you can see that from this point forward, and this is the forward end of the aircraft, you have a continuous cut from the top all the way down to the bottom.

00:34:49.000 And this part of the aircraft was separated from this current part at that point, and the nose of the aircraft went down integrally.

00:34:57.000 It wasn't torn up at all.

00:35:00.000 It went down in one piece.

00:35:02.000 Ballistically straight down.

00:35:03.000 Now at the time the warhead hit it, you had about five pounds of pressure for the pressurization in the aircraft.

00:35:14.000 So when the warhead hit it and it cut it in two, you had instantly about a quarter of a million pounds pushing it apart because of the pressurization inside the aircraft.

00:35:25.000 And it appears to me The first point of contact with the warhead was right here, and you can see the explosive decompression dropping the pressure very quickly from the first contact with the aircraft.

00:35:38.000 But as big as the aircraft is, the 747, it took considerably longer time for it to exhaust the gases out with the push going forward.

00:35:47.000 Now, from this point back to this point, it looks to me like you had another continuous rod that hit the aircraft here and it even went down into the wing.

00:35:55.000 The ends of the pieces here you see are structural cuts from the recovery of the aircraft from the bottom.

00:36:03.000 Now, from this point to this point, you can see a lot of discoloration and smoke and heat damage.

00:36:09.000 But there's no severe fire damage because you can see that that dichromate paint is still yellow.

00:36:15.000 There wasn't any burning.

00:36:17.000 But when the nose came off, it probably pitched up a little in the seats and things coming out.

00:36:22.000 You can see the streaks across the aircraft from that damage.

00:36:25.000 Now, from this point back, you had this part of the aircraft saw intense heat and flame.

00:36:32.000 The paint is severely charred all along here.

00:36:35.000 In here, you can see the aluminum.

00:36:37.000 Skin is melted out between the ribs and the stringers.

00:36:41.000 And so you had this part all in here was separated and came down in random parts spread all over a big area.

00:36:49.000 But from here back came down together and probably the most qualified witness who observed what happened with GW800. A guy by the name of Major Myers, a National Guard pilot, he was in a helicopter.

00:37:04.000 He headed right straight out to it, looking at it and saw it.

00:37:07.000 And he had a lot of experience in Vietnam.

00:37:08.000 He saw many missiles going after and hitting aircraft.

00:37:12.000 And he said he saw two bright white flashes.

00:37:16.000 Two.

00:37:17.000 Just a few milliseconds apart.

00:37:19.000 And when they shot and the Vincennes shot down the Iranian aircraft in the Gulf War, what did they do?

00:37:25.000 Fired two missiles.

00:37:27.000 007 was shot down by the Russians.

00:37:29.000 What did they do?

00:37:30.000 Fire two missiles, air-to-air.

00:37:32.000 And a standard, sort of standard procedure.

00:37:34.000 If you're going to bring down a target with very high probability, you fire two missiles because you're always confronted with not only just inaccuracies, but you're confronted with reliability of the system.

00:37:44.000 So it's normal to do that.

00:37:46.000 And they were just a few milliseconds apart, those flashes.

00:37:49.000 The first flash was clean and clear.

00:37:51.000 The second flash grew into a fireball.

00:37:55.000 And that tells me that the first one cut here.

00:37:57.000 The angle is tilted a little up, and the cut was across the plane, tilted just a little bit.

00:38:04.000 And it was a forward intercept, and the guidance law of the missile would make it converge on the trajectory of the aircraft.

00:38:12.000 So the first one cut along this line.

00:38:16.000 And the second one cut along this line, and it did got right down through here, and it probably got into the wing tanks outboard of the fuselage as well as the main fuel tank under the fuselage.

00:38:31.000 Well, this tank is usually empty, probably have 100 gallons in there of fuel that you can't purge.

00:38:40.000 After it got burning well, you had a lot of fairly violent exhaust of gases from the burning as the back part of the aircraft was going down.

00:38:50.000 But all the section in here was probably torn up aerodynamically as it was coming down because of the big cut here, but you did not have the forces to pull it off clean like you had the forces to pull it off clean here.

00:39:03.000 So it would peel off separately, and you can see it was scattered all over when you look at the pattern of the deployment of all the components from that aircraft.

00:39:11.000 Now, if it was a surface-to-air missile, I got all the information I could on TW-800, as much of the witness information, and looked as much as I could, and I sent a fax to the chief investigator up in New York, and I said, look at all the information, and I can only come to one conclusion.

00:39:26.000 The only thing that's totally consistent with all the information out there is that that aircraft was brought down by a A continuous rod warhead, a surface-to-air warhead, a continuous rod warhead fired from a surface missile with proximity fusing.

00:39:43.000 And if you don't have anybody who knows anything about the terminal ballistics of the continuous rod warhead damage to an aircraft, I'd be happy to come up and give you a hand.

00:39:52.000 I did not get a response.

00:39:54.000 I did not anticipate getting a response.

00:39:59.000 I was told within 24 hours by someone who was fairly well connected in some of the intelligence areas that the aircraft was—they had been tracking a submarine from up around the St. Lawrence Seaway down the East Coast, and it was missing.

00:40:12.000 They lost contact with it there in the New York Bay.

00:40:15.000 Now, if it was a submarine that fired the missile, there are several countries that have sailed—they have surface-air missiles in their sails.

00:40:27.000 That is a part of this submarine that sticks up.

00:40:32.000 We have none in any of the American manufactured submarines.

00:40:37.000 None of ours have missiles in the sail.

00:40:39.000 The Soviet manufacturers, some of them do.

00:40:42.000 Iraq has them. 0.88

00:40:44.000 Iran has them.

00:40:45.000 So I don't know whose submarine it was.

00:40:48.000 Now, Pierre Salinger came out with a story.

00:40:52.000 There was a friend of fire, trying to blame it on the United States Navy.

00:40:56.000 That story had been on the internet for many months before Pierre Salinger gave it some credibility.

00:41:03.000 But the author, the editor and publisher of Soviet Analysts, probably one of the most brilliant men I know tracking what's going on in the world today and from an intelligence point of view, he is also the editor of Galitsyn's book, Perestroika Deception.

00:41:19.000 How many have read Perestroika Deception?

00:41:21.000 Nobody?

00:41:22.000 It's probably one of the most significant books of the 1990s.

00:41:27.000 A book he wrote earlier, New Lies for Old Back in the 1980s, was probably the most significant book of that decade, if you're trying to understand what's going on in the world.

00:41:38.000 And he devoted a whole issue to flight TWA-800.

00:41:45.000 And he said, do the American authorities know at the highest levels that TWA Flight 800 was destroyed by a missile or missiles launched from a submarine off Long Island, and are they preparing to cover up this act of war?

00:41:59.000 That was his conclusion from, and he covers a tremendous amount of information in this newsletter.

00:42:09.000 Sorry, folks, we just can't show numbers on AXS TV. So that's why we pulled it down.

00:42:19.000 Seven plus one meeting already planned in Europe.

00:42:24.000 And at that G7 plus one, which is the moneyed countries of the world, plus Russia, the one is Russia, the Soviet Union, former Soviet Union.

00:42:33.000 He said they turned that meeting into a counterterrorism meeting.

00:42:38.000 And in that meeting, they agreed to have a free exchange among the G7-plus-1 countries on all terrorist and counter-terrorist activities in all these countries.

00:42:47.000 And he says it was well worth it to them to have gotten access to the files of the FBI and the CIA on all internal and external terrorist activities and information that they had to have brought down that ship to turn that meeting into that kind.

00:43:06.000 Now, is that what happened?

00:43:10.000 It probably is consistent with everything that I know as anything.

00:43:14.000 And I found that Christopher's story probably has some of the best connections in the intelligence world of anyone that I know.

00:43:23.000 It's a most terribly regrettable thing, but after all these months, they have not come to a conclusion with respect to what caused that airplane to come down.

00:43:35.000 And I was amazed to find out that Major Myers was not permitted by the FBI to testify to the National Transportation Board until, gosh, it must have been almost six months after the incident.

00:43:48.000 Now we've had another bombing, and most of you, I'm sure, do not know very much about, even know that we had a bombing in Waco.

00:43:57.000 This picture shows the compound as it was being, I dare say, attacked on the The day that the whole compound was burned.

00:44:08.000 You can see a tank entering the building here.

00:44:12.000 This towering part of the building is over about a 20 foot by 20 foot reinforced concrete structure that they call the Church Records Vault.

00:44:21.000 And you have a tower above that three or four floors.

00:44:26.000 And I want you to note this window right here.

00:44:28.000 You have a flagpole.

00:44:30.000 And the line of sight from the TV camera that took the pictures that I'll show you of the explosion was lined up across here so you can precisely determine the line of sight from the camera back to the fire.

00:44:43.000 And you have tanks in behind, a tank back here that had been driving into the building and collapsing the structures behind.

00:44:58.000 The channel across here finally tumbled down, and the walls were pushed in very much around the whole building.

00:45:07.000 And then these two tanks finally pulled away, and just a few seconds after, a few minutes after they pulled away, the whole thing was engulfed with fire flame.

00:45:15.000 It started right here and here and back in here.

00:45:19.000 And with very high winds, it was consumed fairly quickly.

00:45:24.000 Now, if you look at this picture, you can see the You see the arrow?

00:45:33.000 You can see a bright spot, and that is right there.

00:45:38.000 That is the window that I was pointing out to you, and you can even see the cross piece in there, because when that demolition charge went off in that building, the walls really provided tamping, and the force that they exert back on the expanding gases is very high because the gas, the pressure is so high.

00:46:01.000 It's like hitting a baseball with a bat.

00:46:04.000 The faster you hit the ball, the greater the pressure on it.

00:46:06.000 And the same thing is true in the tamping effect of a building surrounding detonation products.

00:46:12.000 And the second frame shows it blasting through the window.

00:46:16.000 The second frame shows it getting over to the corner, and the building comes apart.

00:46:21.000 And you can see in all those pictures there, the distortions and perturbations and the expansion of that gas cloud.

00:46:30.000 are caused by the dynamic flow of the gaseous products around the building components as it is blown up.

00:46:37.000 And you can see here the further expansion of the fireball, and it starts to lift down here in this particular area.

00:46:45.000 But that was a detonation of a demolition charge in the building.

00:46:50.000 Now, if you look at the top after the fire, you look at the top, and there is a hole probably two feet across.

00:46:58.000 And that's the kind of hold you get with a demolition charge.

00:47:03.000 You have concrete in contact at close proximity to high explosives, and the pressure is several hundred times the yield strength of the concrete, so the concrete in the area of the hole there just turned to dust.

00:47:17.000 And you have, of course, fairly high dynamic gas pressures going down into the bunker below.

00:47:23.000 And the red flag in all these pictures will denote a burned or charred body.

00:47:28.000 And there's a body, and you can see the ribs there.

00:47:33.000 But down inside of the bunker, there were 28 women and children.

00:47:37.000 And there is the bunker after the fire.

00:47:40.000 The tank drove into the building and stayed for some time.

00:47:44.000 There's all the kitchen stuff.

00:47:45.000 It went through four walls and a kitchen, and all that was pushed up against the building.

00:47:50.000 You can see the coal-poured concrete lines in that picture, and they're all cracked from the pressure inside, all corners around the top and down the corners on the side, because when the gas pressure from that demolition charge went into the building, they tend to blow it up like a balloon.

00:48:08.000 So all the external walls were in tension.

00:48:14.000 This chart, this picture shows you the building and the backside of it, you can see the little hairline cracks all up and down here and here.

00:48:28.000 Now, it was reported that that explosion was a propane tank.

00:48:34.000 That was what it was blamed on, but there's the propane tank.

00:48:39.000 There's no damage to the propane tank.

00:48:41.000 There were some pictures, reported pictures of it that showed this end blown off, but they were doctored pictures.

00:48:46.000 But there's the propane tank.

00:48:48.000 You see the tension cracks.

00:48:49.000 You had the pressure inside the building, and I'm told by the investigators, the chief investigator for the case that's being tried, and I was asked to do this forensic.

00:48:58.000 The only reason I got into it, I was asked to do this forensic, and I was provided all this material on it.

00:49:05.000 I was told that the building, the tank, had never even been serviced.

00:49:10.000 It had never been in propane at all.

00:49:12.000 Now, it's obvious to me that the room inside the bunker...

00:49:17.000 I had been prepped for this picture.

00:49:19.000 You have all these guns stacked against the wall, but if you notice here, there's a gun against the gun and a gun against that gun, and there's about three or four guns together.

00:49:28.000 And if you had the equivalent of three or four F-16 jet blasts down in here, I don't know how you burned those and left them stacked against the wall with the gas dynamic pressures and gas flow in there.

00:49:39.000 Secondly, from the spall from the hole in the top or anywhere else, you'd never find it lined up around one wall and not around the other walls.

00:49:48.000 It would be symmetric to the hole or something else.

00:49:50.000 So the room was quite well prepared for that picture.

00:49:56.000 So what happened down there at Waco?

00:50:02.000 There are a lot of things and a lot of misinformation put out.

00:50:05.000 And I just pointed out some of the things in misrepresenting the truth with respect to what happened at Waco.

00:50:12.000 They went back in and they scraped down to get rid of all evidence.

00:50:15.000 All the building there was crushed and hauled away and disposed of.

00:50:19.000 And then they went back in sometime later and scraped about eight inches of soil up to get rid of all further evidence.

00:50:25.000 Now here's the Murrah Building in Waco.

00:50:29.000 This has been a great heartburn to most American citizens.

00:50:34.000 And what happened in the demolition of the building, or the destruction of the building at Waco, this column, this column, and this column collapsed across the front, and one column back in the middle of the building.

00:50:50.000 Back in the middle of the building.

00:50:52.000 When I first found, saw, and heard the evidence about the bombing in Oklahoma, and saw the pictures of what had happened with my background...

00:51:04.000 I want to take time out to thank the sponsor of this program, 98.9 KJFK FM All Talk Radio.

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00:51:47.000 So thank you, 98.9.

00:51:48.000 I'll go to your calls in a couple of minutes.

00:51:54.000 Let me go ahead and just give you a brief synopsis of some plans that I personally...

00:52:01.000 I have constructed in my mind and I'm going to put down in probably a 10-page document in the next few weeks.

00:52:09.000 Let's give myself more time.

00:52:11.000 In the next month.

00:52:12.000 I always do what I say I'm going to do.

00:52:14.000 It usually takes me a little bit longer.

00:52:16.000 I'm also going to get in here and put together some shows for you with news clips and other information to try to bring into focus what's happening in our country.

00:52:23.000 Basically, we know this.

00:52:25.000 And next week I'm going to play, I told you it's about Oklahoma.

00:52:29.000 Well, he talks about a few other cases.

00:52:30.000 And then next week we'll get into the Oklahoma City bombing with General Benton Parton, former head of Air Force Weapons Development in airborne-delivered munitions.

00:52:41.000 You might have seen us covering up the screen some.

00:52:44.000 There was a number up there.

00:52:45.000 It wasn't a 1-800 number, which are totally not allowed, but I still like to not go anywhere past the rules, and so we covered that number up.

00:52:56.000 Now, there's a number for comments here in town.

00:52:58.000 If you have any news stories or anything that's been happening to you or your family or any documents, any whistleblowing you'd like to engage in, if you've got a story that will help people see the corruption and help shed light on it so it doesn't happen to others, please feel free to get in touch with us at 370-9558.

00:53:19.000 Or you can write to me also.

00:53:22.000 At that address, 12710 Research Boulevard, Suite 390, Austin, Texas, 78759. Feel free to write to me at that address.

00:53:32.000 So keep Popo's numbers, put them on your refrigerator when something comes up, and we'll put the numbers up later.

00:53:38.000 But basically, it's this.

00:53:40.000 We know what's happened to our country.

00:53:43.000 We know that taxes are out of control.

00:53:45.000 We know that the media lies to us or gives us half the truth or diversions almost all the time.

00:53:51.000 We know that occasionally because of the masses of information and all the new cable channels that some information...

00:53:57.000 We don't have lights on in here tonight.

00:53:58.000 I can't tell what camera's on.

00:54:01.000 We do know that information like Tony Brown does get out.

00:54:04.000 He hasn't been talking about this and suddenly comes out with it.

00:54:07.000 He's been slowly inching towards it.

00:54:08.000 He won't be getting any more interviews, I'll assure you, except for his PBS show and his radio show.

00:54:15.000 It's very serious what's happening.

00:54:17.000 We'll play that Tony Brown clip again later where he talks about the corrupt kubals out of Europe that run the world. 1.00

00:54:24.000 So we know about this.

00:54:25.000 Now, how are we going to effectively oppose this?

00:54:27.000 If our federal government at the top is a bunch of traitors in both parties, if the people that do stand up are intimidated or shut out of the process and are given the silent treatment like Ron Paul and others, congressmen from Texas, what are we going to do about the federal level?

00:54:44.000 We can ignore that.

00:54:46.000 We can oppose what's happening, talk about what's happening, try to get things to change, try to show the corruption.

00:54:51.000 But there's one problem.

00:54:53.000 Clinton is pretty much invincible right now because the media has used conditioning with petty issues like sex scandals and other things to where we're sick of hearing about it to shield all the real treason, the missile components, the separation systems, the MIRV technology, the multiple warhead technology to China.

00:55:14.000 The organs from China.

00:55:17.000 We played clips of that last night.

00:55:19.000 All the rest of this information.

00:55:21.000 And I do want to say that I see more good information coming out on Fox than I see on any other stations, even though the commentator made fun of Tony Brown the whole time and said, but people are making a lot of money.

00:55:35.000 People are making a lot of money.

00:55:36.000 And Tony countered with facts to the commentator, well, actually, we've had better economies, and this is all BS and propaganda.

00:55:44.000 But we've seen the problems.

00:55:46.000 The solution is local grassroots activism.

00:55:50.000 Seizing control may take five, six years in most cities of your local governments through education of the population about the real problems.

00:56:00.000 In cities where they don't have access or their idea of access is a billboard for 30 seconds, which we're getting more and more of around here for some reason, but still we have the best access facility in the country and we're award-winning.

00:56:12.000 We need to have access facilities.

00:56:14.000 We need to have documentaries that people put together, circulated, pamphlets, books.

00:56:19.000 We need to have people meeting in groups and speaking about serious issues, not successionist movements or leaving the union or any of this type of behavior, in my opinion.

00:56:29.000 We need to push to let people know who it is that's controlling them and manipulating their lives.

00:56:36.000 Once we know who the problem is, we can explain to people that the solution is local control.

00:56:41.000 Just getting one council member elected here in Austin who isn't from the green lobby or the developer lobby, which are really all hand-in-hand together except for the handmaidens at the bottom that believe in whatever con game they're part of.

00:56:56.000 What I'm saying is I'm talking about front groups.

00:56:58.000 Beware front groups.

00:56:59.000 If we can get one real city council member, one real commissioner, they may be isolated, but can you imagine Alex Jones or...

00:57:07.000 Someone else, someone from our community who's well-spoken, with credentials, more so than myself, up there, exposing when they're building a helicopter base or exposing when the Delta Force is coming to town, which we stopped.

00:57:21.000 Exposing things like that.

00:57:24.000 Then think of the information.

00:57:26.000 Then we get two, three, four people like the environmentalists have gotten.

00:57:30.000 Then we dominate the entire city council.

00:57:32.000 Now, it's going to be hard because the city council has attached itself and it's going on, even according to the New York Times, but they tell you, again, it's wonderful.

00:57:39.000 If you're asking why I'm using mainstream media, well, they tell you it's great in today's New York Times about how battling sprawl states buy land for open space.

00:57:47.000 Well, they don't tell you that they then sell part of it to their best friends and cronies.

00:57:51.000 Talk about political power and cash cows. 1.00

00:57:54.000 That's what we're talking about.

00:57:55.000 We saw that here in Austin with the Brody track.

00:57:57.000 They use your money.

00:57:58.000 They get it.

00:57:59.000 As a political power base and then sell it to their friends.

00:58:02.000 It's just they're developers that don't have the money to actually buy the land.

00:58:05.000 They use your money to buy it and then sell it.

00:58:07.000 Or sell portions of it.

00:58:10.000 So we've got to get people in place locally.

00:58:15.000 Then we've got to have boycotts and protest of mainstream media as we are beginning to do.

00:58:21.000 People who have been sitting on the couch have got to be vigilant and come out to the protest.

00:58:25.000 They've got to get involved.

00:58:26.000 Have got to call in to talk radio shows at least once or twice a week and voice different issues.

00:58:31.000 See, if one person calls in and talks about the Trilateral Commission, or if Tony Brown talks about it, they can say, well, that's just a few people.

00:58:39.000 But the more of you, imagine five of you in a row calling in to a talk radio show.

00:58:44.000 And talking about a real issue when they're talking about something that's near that, but you can get off the diversion and into the reality.

00:58:51.000 The host won't be laughing anymore, because the host, most of them just care about what's popular and what's cool and want to go along to get along.

00:58:59.000 Now...

00:58:59.000 A good example of that is in this forthcoming Tony Brown interview.

00:59:04.000 Just look at the demeanor of the guy who's interviewing him.

00:59:06.000 It's very, very patronizing and sarcastic, and that's just a...

00:59:10.000 You know, the undertones are pretty sick, so I just...

00:59:12.000 Yeah, he's acting like a school kid who's making a joke about something.

00:59:17.000 Oh, the...

00:59:19.000 Oh, Galileo, the earth is the center.

00:59:22.000 Oh, Columbus, the world is flat, don't you know?

00:59:27.000 Ha ha ha!

00:59:28.000 Yes, that's exactly...

00:59:30.000 That's exactly what we're talking about.

00:59:32.000 But you notice, that's the most excited I've ever seen that commentator get.

00:59:36.000 He got very excited.

00:59:38.000 He didn't have any idea what was in that book, and when he suddenly heard it, he freaked out.

00:59:41.000 I think it's horribly ironic.

00:59:42.000 I really don't know the guy's name, but I know definitely for a fact that he used to be one of those guys on a hard copy or one of those horrible schlock shows.

00:59:54.000 His name is O'Reilly.

00:59:55.000 So where's his background in journalistic integrity?

00:59:59.000 Well, that's what I was talking about, about there being more media.

01:00:02.000 There's so much media and so many deadlines that more and more of us are getting through with information.

01:00:07.000 We may never get back on again, but we get out there a few times.

01:00:11.000 The statesman even once said something about the Federal Reserve.

01:00:14.000 But that's the key, is more and more people of prominence standing up, and then it will become accepted.

01:00:24.000 You know, ideas that are revolutionary are always...

01:00:29.000 We laughed at for a long time until a certain core group, up to 5%, who are educated, highly motivated, are willing to get out and talk about it.

01:00:38.000 Everybody is prominent.

01:00:40.000 I hate to keep busting it on you like this, but this is one of the lies that they definitely project on you.

01:00:44.000 Well, by prominent, I mean a school teacher, an auto mechanic, a doctor, a lawyer.

01:00:49.000 Everyone.

01:00:50.000 Well, it certainly helps to get people who are already in place in positions of power.

01:00:54.000 Wouldn't you state that?

01:00:56.000 Absolutely, but everybody is in a position now.

01:00:58.000 Anybody, myself included, I said, myself included, can write a pamphlet with information and get it out.

01:01:03.000 If you don't have all the facts, just get the basic information and get that out to people.

01:01:07.000 Exactly.

01:01:07.000 I just wanted to make the point that that was an inclusionary statement, not an exclusionary one about people in power.

01:01:13.000 Everyone is in power.

01:01:14.000 Don't let them fool you.

01:01:15.000 Yes, exactly.

01:01:17.000 I believe, I'm saying people of prominence, but I'm saying...

01:01:21.000 The media knows this.

01:01:22.000 The government knows this.

01:01:23.000 The power brokers know this.

01:01:24.000 That's why they always court entertainers and professors and people, and they create meeting houses for them of social conditioning, of peer pressure.

01:01:34.000 So that's the point I'm making.

01:01:36.000 Just being honest here.

01:01:37.000 Yes, everybody, Alex Jones, can do something.

01:01:39.000 I'm talking about others who are prominent.

01:01:42.000 We need them.

01:01:44.000 We need people to go past the level of knowing it's real and go to the level of knowing that I'm not going to solve all the problems today, but my action will have repercussions in the future.

01:01:54.000 What we do today won't be felt now.

01:01:57.000 It actually is being felt now, but it'll be felt even more so in the future.

01:02:00.000 And the enemy knows that.

01:02:01.000 That's why they're in a long-term strategic goal.

01:02:04.000 I used the example last week of the Houston city has been...

01:02:09.000 Houston, our southern city here.

01:02:11.000 It has been for six years trying to get the 2012 Olympics, and all the other cities have been doing it.

01:02:18.000 That's just to get the Olympics.

01:02:19.000 They're working 20 years out.

01:02:22.000 Six years ago up until 2012, they're working now feverishly.

01:02:26.000 Can you imagine what the power brokers of world finance and systems are doing?

01:02:31.000 And the most dangerous thing is the psychology of the middle class as part of the system, and you have the trappings and the baubles of power. 0.54

01:02:39.000 I assure you those are petty to the extreme.

01:02:42.000 Real freedom is the freedom of the mind and seeing through the veil of the false reality that's being projected.

01:02:49.000 And that's what we have here.

01:02:50.000 And many civilizations have been under this.

01:02:53.000 I don't want to go back and mention them over and over again.

01:02:55.000 But we can see the barbarism or the strange mentality or the religious cults or the systems that have dominated civilizations.

01:03:02.000 We need a science-based, fact-based civilization.

01:03:06.000 So that's the plan.

01:03:08.000 And I'm going to write it up and get it out to people.

01:03:11.000 But people know what I'm talking about.

01:03:14.000 We need people of prominence.

01:03:16.000 Everybody.

01:03:17.000 Grassroots.

01:03:18.000 I mean, people prominent in our community.

01:03:19.000 School teachers.

01:03:20.000 You're prominent.

01:03:21.000 You have young minds.

01:03:22.000 You have power.

01:03:24.000 Professors want to buck the system. 0.93

01:03:26.000 Get out of the group psychology.

01:03:28.000 It's time for you to leave junior high, UT professor.

01:03:32.000 The popular game should leave now.

01:03:34.000 You should wake up to what you're part of.

01:03:38.000 Imagine if a UT professor, and there's many of them that are in the Council on Foreign Relations, in the outer rooms of power, imagine if one of them defected and came on this program and said, yes, I know about this, I've finally seen it.

01:03:50.000 That's what we need.

01:03:51.000 People coming out, putting it on the line, ignoring what phone calls they get from friends and people in the establishment.

01:04:00.000 I've got a lot of those calls.

01:04:01.000 I ignore them.

01:04:02.000 I listen to what they have to say, but I ignore them.

01:04:06.000 So that's it.

01:04:07.000 Seize control of your local governments.

01:04:09.000 Realize that you are all cattle and are being fed upon at the establishment's leisure.

01:04:15.000 They have nothing but avarice for you.

01:04:17.000 Okay, we're going to take about three phone calls, then we're going to go to Tony Brown again, and I'll be back for a few short comments.

01:04:22.000 Hello, you're on the air.

01:04:24.000 Yes, caller.

01:04:28.000 You're on the air.

01:04:31.000 Does phones crap out on us?

01:04:33.000 Or is the phone not turned up in there?

01:04:35.000 Alex, hey, something weird happened to me today.

01:04:38.000 I went to Albertson's about like 6.30 this afternoon, and they had a sign on the door saying absolutely no credit card transactions can be done.

01:04:48.000 Said the system's like down, they're working on it.

01:04:50.000 So I go in and I asked the manager.

01:04:52.000 Hold on, I was at Luby's today, and their credit card system was down.

01:04:57.000 So I asked the manager, I go, what's that sign mean?

01:05:00.000 He told me, I said, well, you mean...

01:05:04.000 He said something about the satellites out of range.

01:05:06.000 I said, is this your story?

01:05:07.000 He goes, no, this is like nationwide.

01:05:09.000 I go, wait a minute.

01:05:11.000 I go, well, does the ATM machine work?

01:05:13.000 He goes, I don't know.

01:05:14.000 I don't think so.

01:05:15.000 I'll say, well, what are people doing, man?

01:05:16.000 They don't have, you can't use a credit card.

01:05:19.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:05:20.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:05:21.000 The Y2K problems, the government could be releasing viruses into the system, computer viruses.

01:05:27.000 Anything could be happening right now, but that's speculation.

01:05:30.000 Well, I wonder if anybody else, maybe one of your callers, somebody could call in.

01:05:33.000 Did it happen?

01:05:34.000 You said it happened to Luby's today?

01:05:36.000 Yes, their credit card systems were down, and they said that they were down all over town.

01:05:41.000 Was it about 6 o'clock or 6?

01:05:43.000 This was at about 1 o'clock.

01:05:48.000 Well, this kind of scares me because, I mean, what can they just turn off?

01:05:52.000 You know, if everybody gets this card and there's no cash, they can just turn off.

01:05:55.000 Your access to anything at any time, not just one person, everybody.

01:06:00.000 That's the point.

01:06:00.000 They advertise all this stuff as if it's for convenience, but it's really to track you and control you and make you impotent and weak.

01:06:07.000 Well, that's like, you could talk riots.

01:06:09.000 People would just, I mean, what's going to happen?

01:06:11.000 They just, I mean, it's just so much they can control.

01:06:14.000 They're just like, all right, we'll just cut off the money.

01:06:17.000 Bam! 0.98

01:06:18.000 Well...

01:06:18.000 Again, you're going to have natural problems in complex computer systems and information networks, but yes, the experts are saying that we're already seeing Y2K problems, and one year from now is when any time a huge crash will come.

01:06:32.000 And by 2000, we will have a serious one.

01:06:34.000 This is a mess.

01:06:35.000 All right, well, keep up the good work.

01:06:37.000 But don't worry, the government's going to save you.

01:06:39.000 Yeah.

01:06:39.000 See you later.

01:06:41.000 Hello, you're on the air.

01:06:42.000 Yes, hello.

01:06:43.000 Am I on the air?

01:06:44.000 Yes.

01:06:44.000 Okay, Alex, I've got a lot of news stories here, but I realize you don't have very much time, so I'm going to be quick.

01:06:49.000 I've got one here from the Associated Press.

01:06:51.000 It's called Italian Soldiers Accused of Torture in Somalia.

01:06:55.000 It reads, Rome.

01:06:56.000 First the Somalia prisoners were forced to eat hot peppers.

01:06:59.000 Then came cigarette burns.

01:07:00.000 Finally, electric shocks to the testicles.

01:07:03.000 Former paratroopers' chilling allegations of torture in Somalia have cast a dark cloud over the Italian peacekeeping force as it heads a multinational force in Albania.

01:07:12.000 Hey, hold on a second.

01:07:13.000 I've actually shown the photos of that, and I forgot to cue that up because somebody wanted to see it tonight.

01:07:18.000 I'll try during the break to find it on a two-hour tape.

01:07:20.000 Okay.

01:07:21.000 And some photos I had, and I put them in my documentary.

01:07:23.000 All right.

01:07:24.000 Let me go on, though.

01:07:25.000 It gets worse.

01:07:25.000 Well, hold on.

01:07:26.000 Would you please...

01:07:28.000 I know they cut children's heads off and made them eat urine and vomit. 0.87

01:07:31.000 Would you please mail me that article, sir?

01:07:35.000 Yeah, I'll get that to you and more.

01:07:37.000 Well, I really appreciate it.

01:07:38.000 Please do it.

01:07:39.000 You got it.

01:07:40.000 You got it.

01:07:40.000 Let me continue here.

01:07:41.000 Similar allegations of torture have been leveled against...

01:07:44.000 Canadian and Belgian troops who took part in the United Nations Restore Hope mission during Somalia Civil War in 1993. Now, all those dead bodies you saw floating down the river, that was the UN doing that for some oil companies, huh?

01:07:54.000 Yes, yes.

01:07:55.000 In the Panorama interview, Petruno described a pattern of abuse by Italian soldiers during patrols, from smashing jugs of precious water to destroying a house where a single bullet was found.

01:08:05.000 Hmm, interesting bullets, huh?

01:08:06.000 Torture was used during interrogation and designed to force prisoners to disclose where arms were stored.

01:08:13.000 Petruno said.

01:08:14.000 Officers were often present during the mistreatment, he said.

01:08:16.000 The abuse grew steadily worse to the point of throwing prisoners against razor wire.

01:08:20.000 Quote, these things grew out of pure sadism, Petruno said.

01:08:24.000 I've got another one here.

01:08:25.000 This is Italian troop leaders cleared in Somalia Trobe.

01:08:28.000 After questioning more than 100 people about alleged torture and sexual abuse by Italian troops in Somalia, a government-appointed commission concluded Friday that they were isolated offenses, but top commanders played no role.

01:08:39.000 The multinational relief effort in Somalia lasted from 1992 to 1995. Witness accounts and souvenir snapshots.

01:08:46.000 Oh, don't you love that?

01:08:47.000 They're just souvenir snapshots taken by peacekeepers from Canada, Belgium, Italy, and other countries, which we haven't heard about.

01:08:54.000 Sir, sir, I've got to...

01:08:56.000 I've got to go.

01:08:56.000 Okay, I'm almost done here.

01:08:58.000 Have revealed an array of alleged crimes by foreign troops, including torture, rape, and murder of Somalis.

01:09:04.000 This is what we're facing.

01:09:06.000 Sir, they killed all, we're not sure, between 500,000 and a million people.

01:09:10.000 Yeah.

01:09:11.000 They were, I get it mixed up, they were...

01:09:13.000 They were using the Hutus against the Tutsis, I believe. 1.00

01:09:17.000 I've got all the actual photos and documentation.

01:09:19.000 People need to realize this is what we're facing.

01:09:21.000 Yeah, mail that to me.

01:09:23.000 Okay, we're going to go ahead and go to the Tony Brown clip.

01:09:26.000 It's about five minutes long.

01:09:27.000 This is Tony Brown again.

01:09:30.000 On Fox about two weeks ago explaining his research, everything you've heard from me, everything you've heard from General Parton, everything you've heard from Ted Gunderson, FBI. It's just the truth.

01:09:40.000 It's historical.

01:09:41.000 It's documented.

01:09:42.000 We'll go ahead and go to Tony Brown, and I'll be back for a few quick comments.

01:09:47.000 Don't forget, Exposing Corruption is here every Tuesday night from 8.30 to 11 p.m.

01:09:51.000 You've got your own minds.

01:09:53.000 I'm talking about this grassroots effort.

01:09:55.000 Grassroots means you've got the capacity, you've got the mind, you've got the solutions.

01:10:00.000 Look what I've done in three years.

01:10:02.000 You can do something too.

01:10:03.000 We'll be right back.

01:10:04.000 Here's Tony Brown exposing crime rings.

01:10:09.000 When they were organized on May the 1st, 1776 at Ingolstadt University in Bavaria, Germany by Adam Weiskopf, they were called the Order of the Illuminati or the Order of the Devil.

01:10:21.000 And illuminati obviously means to illuminate, to brighten.

01:10:25.000 And the premise is that people who are aristocratic, elitist, and aristocratic have become illuminated by reason.

01:10:38.000 And the reason replaces God.

01:10:40.000 So there's no need for God.

01:10:42.000 God is...

01:10:42.000 Well, why is the need for the devil then?

01:10:44.000 Well, the need for the devil because the devil is illuminated.

01:10:46.000 The devil is intelligent.

01:10:48.000 The devil uses reason.

01:10:49.000 How does this apply to modern-day America?

01:10:51.000 These people are descendants of the hedonists over in Germany? 0.81

01:10:55.000 Well, some of them...

01:10:56.000 They picked it up?

01:10:57.000 Well, it's been centered in England in the recent centuries more so than anywhere else.

01:11:04.000 But Illuminati was...

01:11:06.000 People were identified as illuminati during the revolutionary period.

01:11:10.000 Karl Marx was an illuminist.

01:11:13.000 So you have bad people who worship the devil in charge, and that's what you're saying?

01:11:18.000 They're in America now, they're in high positions, they make a lot of money?

01:11:21.000 You have pious people who are Jews, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, and you have pious people who believe in Satan, and some who believe in Lucifer, who are not the same in their world. 0.66

01:11:32.000 They believe in the devil.

01:11:33.000 So they have a different attitude toward life.

01:11:37.000 Yours and mine is like, let's be up above board and make the world a better place.

01:11:40.000 Their attitude is, let's Stay under the table and try to destroy people because we've got to save souls, catch souls for the devil.

01:11:47.000 Really?

01:11:47.000 You really believe all this stuff, Tony?

01:11:49.000 This isn't me.

01:11:50.000 This is not Tony Brown.

01:11:52.000 Who are these devil guys?

01:11:54.000 Can you name some names here?

01:11:56.000 Well, you know, there are a lot of people throughout history and a lot of people today.

01:12:01.000 Oh, give me one dead guy so he's not going to sue you.

01:12:04.000 Okay, that's a good point.

01:12:05.000 Karl Marx was one.

01:12:07.000 All right.

01:12:07.000 And Karl Marx was...

01:12:08.000 Hitler? 0.62

01:12:09.000 Yeah.

01:12:09.000 I don't think Hitler was.

01:12:11.000 Hitler was a fanatical white supremacist.

01:12:14.000 Okay.

01:12:14.000 But Karl Marx was a devil.

01:12:16.000 So you believe that these guys exist, this cabal, a worldwide cabal?

01:12:20.000 Do they communicate among each other?

01:12:21.000 Yes.

01:12:21.000 Do they send emails?

01:12:23.000 Yeah.

01:12:23.000 Hey, Satan, how you doing today?

01:12:25.000 I'm not sure about that.

01:12:26.000 But they're organized.

01:12:28.000 Really?

01:12:29.000 They're organized?

01:12:30.000 They have conventions down in St. Bart's or someplace?

01:12:32.000 I'm not sure.

01:12:33.000 I mean, I've never been invited to one.

01:12:35.000 No, I haven't either.

01:12:36.000 I mean, it doesn't get a lot of coverage.

01:12:37.000 If so, we're going to have you on.

01:12:39.000 There are secret societies that don't get a lot of coverage.

01:12:43.000 Skull and bones?

01:12:44.000 Skull and bones doesn't get much coverage because many of the members of skull and bones are so powerful that the people in power just don't report on them.

01:12:53.000 Now, assuming that what you're saying is true, and I can't say it's true because I really have no knowledge of this at all.

01:13:01.000 What are these people doing to us?

01:13:03.000 Well, it's not what they're doing to us.

01:13:06.000 It's the way they manage the world.

01:13:09.000 This is a point of view.

01:13:10.000 This is an organized movement.

01:13:12.000 There are things going on in the United States right now.

01:13:15.000 For example, there are two ways to look at history.

01:13:18.000 The accidental view of history and the conspiratorial view of history.

01:13:22.000 Give me some concrete examples.

01:13:23.000 Well, I'll give you a concrete example.

01:13:25.000 One concrete example is the central bank, the Federal Reserve Bank.

01:13:32.000 Federal Reserve Bank, okay.

01:13:34.000 Federal Reserve Bank was organized by a group of people mostly from Europe and from the United States, England and German bankers, who set up in the United States Karl Marx's version of The Communist Manifesto.

01:13:48.000 The central bank is the second plank in the Communist Manifesto.

01:13:52.000 And the income tax is the fifth plank in the Communist Manifesto.

01:13:57.000 But the Federal Reserve basically keeps the economy humming.

01:14:00.000 I mean, we're all making money here in the finest capitalistic system the world has ever seen.

01:14:05.000 Well, that depends on your point of view.

01:14:09.000 Yeah, but look.

01:14:10.000 No, this is not the best economy in the world.

01:14:13.000 Everybody's making money, though.

01:14:15.000 Everybody is not making money, and we have an economy that is very fragile.

01:14:19.000 It's based on smoke and mirrors.

01:14:21.000 And if you don't believe Tony Brown, read the May 4th issue, 1998, of the Wall Street Journal, an editorial by a man named Edward Yardini, the managing director of Deutsche Morgan Greenfell Investment Banking.

01:14:34.000 You can't get any more establishment than him.

01:14:37.000 But it's just one guy's opinion, you know?

01:14:38.000 It's one guy's opinion, but this one guy is very, very influential.

01:14:41.000 And this man writes in the Wall Street Journal that does not allow a lot of nutty articles to appear, that there is a 60% chance of a recession or depression in 1999 or year 2000 because of the Y2K problem.

01:14:54.000 But that's what economies go up, they go down, they go in, they go out.

01:14:58.000 That's the marketplace.

01:14:58.000 But that's why this is not a great economy.

01:15:00.000 This economy is an economy that's a Ponzi scheme.

01:15:03.000 You've got a whole bunch of folks putting money at the bottom, taking their money out of mortgages, putting them into stock, and they can't afford it.

01:15:09.000 When the bubble bursts, as Greenspan has tried to warn them, the irrational exuberance, then people aren't going to lose.

01:15:15.000 They're going to get hurt.

01:15:16.000 They're going to get real hurt, and a whole lot of people While a handful of people at the top are going to have the biggest consolidation of wealth ever seen.

01:15:36.000 Let's get up the address.

01:15:38.000 Let's get the address up there if you want to write me or contact me.

01:15:42.000 I really appreciate your letters.

01:15:43.000 I don't read a lot of them on the air.

01:15:45.000 Next week I'll show some of these beautiful pictures of some artwork that one of my fans did.

01:15:52.000 Give me a close shot right now.

01:15:53.000 I need to do this.

01:15:55.000 I don't want to do a bad job of this, so I'll just show it next week.

01:15:58.000 We'll show you some close-ups next week.

01:16:01.000 Thanks for sending me these and all the rest of the other information.

01:16:04.000 Alright, I'll be back next week.

01:16:08.000 Right here at the same time.

01:16:10.000 Same bat time, same bat channel. 0.97

01:16:13.000 I want to thank my producers, Buckley and Andy.

01:16:16.000 I want to thank Mike from the Freedom Report, which is Monday nights from 7 to 8.30 p.m.

01:16:22.000 This is not a joke.

01:16:23.000 This is the real deal.

01:16:25.000 This is Third World War.

01:16:27.000 This is economic warfare.

01:16:29.000 I'm not kidding with you out there.

01:16:31.000 The truth is there.

01:16:34.000 It's in your face.

01:16:35.000 You know it's real.

01:16:38.000 Now, what are you going to do about it?

01:16:40.000 You have incredible power.

01:16:42.000 Black, white, every single one of you. 1.00

01:16:45.000 Get involved today.

01:16:49.000 I'm Alex Jones, the host of Exposing Corruption.

01:16:52.000 And I'm here to tell you I'm not kidding you.

01:16:56.000 He who hath ears and eyes, let them see, let them hear, let them know.

01:17:00.000 Stand the hell up.

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Alex Jones Show - September 01, 1998

Alex Jones Exposing Corruption

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