In this episode, we speak with Lt. Beck, Commander of the Travis County SWAT Team, about training with the Delta Force. We also learn about the Federal Emergency Management Agency's recent training in Austin, Texas.
00:00:12.000We're here with Lieutenant Beck, Commander of the Travis County SWAT Team and his offices on the fourth floor of the Travis County Command Center.
00:01:25.000Now, basically, I do appreciate you taking this time with us on such short notice.
00:01:29.000You are a great member of the community, and we do appreciate your service, Lieutenant Beck.
00:01:35.000But we've been told that the FEMA preparedness forces are here.
00:01:42.000Federal Emergency Management Agency are now in Austin.
00:01:44.000We just saw a news report this week about it, but we've been unable to find out exactly what type of training and where they're doing their training.
00:04:01.000Our sources in the police department that cannot reveal themselves, some of them are very high level, have told us that they've actually been already training in East Austin.
00:04:50.000Where they talk about the dishonesty, the attempted bribery, the endangerment of public safety, the firing into the all-night restaurant in Miami?
00:05:13.000And after you train at one for so long, doing entries, you lose the value of the training because you go into an abandoned house that we might use.
00:05:24.000Once you know the layout, your learning goes down because you know where everything's at.
00:05:32.000Ideally, you need a different place every time.
00:05:38.000Lieutenant Beck, do you remember the conversation we had about nine months ago about federal forces wanting to train with local law enforcement and also in some cases actually engage in law enforcement with them and you said that would never happen?
00:05:53.000Are you familiar with what's going on in the Hill Country now with the MPs riding around with the DPS?
00:07:22.000What Delta tells you and what the feds tell you, Lieutenant Beck, from our experience, other departments' experiences, from newspaper accounts, they are dishonest and cannot be trusted.
00:07:43.000More properly, it's one of their advanced guys, and he came here to give me notification that they would be training in a particular area.
00:07:54.000And it was to give us advance notice so that we would not have people calling in saying that there's a bunch of people running around with guns and stuff and having law enforcement agencies responding out there.
00:08:49.000When they train, what's the secret of it?
00:08:52.000Well, Congressman Lloyd Doggett, in an open letter to the Austin-American statesman several weeks ago, said that there will be a full-scale anti-terrorism simulation sometime in January and that the advance teams would be here in December.
00:09:09.000Well, Delta and Marine Force Recon and others, according to the Houston Chronicle and others, are attached to FEMA when they do these full-scale...
00:09:38.000And I do know from what I've heard here, all it is, it's reaction.
00:09:44.000The training that they are proposing, it's all reactionary.
00:09:48.000Mostly it's of a medical nature for victims.
00:09:52.000If something does happen, if there's a derailment or a truck overturns, or you could have a terrorist or someone who came up with some biological weapon, how are the locals going to respond to it?
00:12:08.000Last Friday after the UT, Texas A&M football game when they had the Travis County helicopters going down the streets and the armored personnel carrier out there.
00:12:31.000Well, I could kick myself for missing it.
00:12:33.000I've now talked to around 30 eyewitnesses that they had police.
00:12:36.000Literally shutting down the road, marching down in riot gear with an armored personnel carrier rolling from behind, and the new Travis County Sabre 1 and Sabre 2 police helicopters.
00:13:42.000I would actually agree that when we read the purchase orders, it said Sheriff's Department Command Complex as part of the decentralization plan, which I'm sure you're familiar with.
00:13:53.000The problem is we now have the head of EMS. What's his name?
00:14:13.000As a matter of fact, had we been able to acquire a helicopter, we were going to train some officers to be pilots, and I was asked to be one of them.
00:14:27.000And the only reason I've got commercial...
00:16:53.000It's a helpful investigative tool for the detectives.
00:16:56.000It's also good if, when you go to court, when you have a jury, you can say the body was found right here, here's the road, you know, the murder weapon was here.
00:17:10.000There was a murder a year and a half ago, about half a mile from where my parents live, and we would have bought that story of what happened October 9th.
00:17:19.000But then October 10th, in the early hours, actually October 11th by then, Mike calls me at 2 in the morning and says, we have a helicopter flying over, turning on its light only when it gets here.
00:17:29.000He got the actual video by the time he got his camera out and got it, got two more passes, where it flies over, turns its light on.
00:17:35.000That's a separate part of Austin, 15 miles away.
00:17:37.000Then my girlfriend calls, without even knowing about this, crying that a helicopter was shining a light into her windows at her place in central Austin.
00:17:44.000There's only two Starflight helicopters.
00:17:47.000We are very, when we use them, we're very picky when we use them because it costs money.
00:17:57.000I'm just off the top of my head, is we probably pay operating costs maybe $300 an hour for the helicopters.
00:18:05.000You know, it's fuel, maintenance, crew and all that.
00:18:08.000So you just don't call up and say, hey, let's go take some pictures.
00:18:20.000The law enforcement, we don't do that.
00:18:23.000A helicopter with four hours of fuel, that's something I'm unfamiliar with.
00:18:28.000Well, it was logged in at the tower with a four-hour surveillance mission.
00:18:31.000The primary purpose of those two helicopters is Starflight for medical.
00:18:37.000Matter of fact, right now, if I needed a helicopter for a law enforcement reason, And they were on a medical run or something, the medical takes priority.
00:18:48.000And that's why the Sheriff's Department wanted a helicopter exclusively for law enforcement.
00:18:53.000And that has happened in the past where we want to use a helicopter for a search or something.
00:18:58.000Or up at the lake, have a boat overturned or missing kids or something.
00:19:03.000Or something comes up where we have an escapee.
00:19:07.000We can't get the helicopter because they're either on a medical run.
00:20:20.000In the penal code, it says that for officers to give tickets or to arrest people, they have to be in proper uniform, and that's a dark gray or dark blue with a cap that matches.
00:29:23.000It's real easy to do it during tactical operations.
00:29:26.000When you're going in, you might want to hit a door or something like that.
00:29:29.000And I can see where, yes, you could do some damage.
00:29:33.000And that's something that we face all the time, too.
00:29:38.000Well, do you share the chief of police in San Antonio's view that you don't want to endanger public safety by having these military teams ransacking areas?
00:32:18.000If there are Russian soldiers there...
00:32:23.000I would imagine that they're armor, probably tank, and that there's probably, I wouldn't say there's that many, and there's probably officers over here for some exchange program or something like that.
00:32:37.000You know, my own son, when he was in the Coast Guard here two years ago in Alaska, the Russians sent over a cutter-type ship, and they trained together.
00:32:55.000Do you think it was a good thing that President Clinton transferred the nuclear weapons, guidance, propulsion, separation, and multiple warhead delivery system to the Chinese military?
00:33:05.000No, obviously that's not a good idea, but I don't know if that occurred.
00:33:11.000You haven't heard about that in the press?
00:33:13.000No, I think I've read something about it.
00:33:16.000How does it feel to know our military is serving under President Clinton?
00:33:55.000Like Sandy Berger and Secretary of Defense William Cohen, who's created the new 50 teams and the other 10 teams with the FEMA. So you're saying Clinton's held back by Madeleine Albright and he wasn't born here?
00:34:28.000His father, do you remember back in 1992, the big senator hearings when Colin Powell resigned, didn't want to work under Clinton, and he put Kashvili in and the senators asking about his father running death camps for the Nazis?
00:34:50.000I know at times it seems comical, all the wild stuff we talk about, but then later you see it happen, you get the phone calls from these people.
00:34:56.000What I'm trying to say to you, Lieutenant Beck, is y'all are the Achilles' heel in this New World Order system, which is real.
00:35:03.000When you've got a president with Cass Vili, who can barely speak English, sitting on his daddy's knee while he was...
00:35:11.000You've got Madeleine Albright, Secretary of State, born in Czechoslovakia, the daughter of a communist diplomat.
00:35:18.000You've got Secretary of Defense William Cohen of Blue Blood from the East Coast, totally selling out our nation.
00:35:24.000You've got Sandy Berger, National Security Advisor, that talks about global regimes of power at CFR meetings on C-SPAN. You've got this whole collection of people.
00:35:34.000Are you familiar that the Panama Canal has now been handed over to the Chinese military?
00:35:40.000Well, you know that back in 1978 and 79, Carter said by 2000 it'll be given up fully and our troops will be pulled out by 1996. That was an agreement that we had with the Panamanians.
00:35:50.000But what you have to realize is that that was nothing but jungle and we built that.
00:37:36.000What if FEMA, during an emergency, Y2K, wants you to go, say, to 50 different houses and pick up dangerous people?
00:37:41.000As I said before, it will never come to that.
00:37:44.000If Clinton says, take all the guns, for the next 25 years, there will be bickering among the different agencies on which one is going to be in charge of it, who's going to do it.
00:39:40.000Now, the Panama Canal, that has been in the treaty, I don't know if it was a treaty, but we knew for years and years it was going back to the Panamanians.
00:39:52.000That it was going back to them, and I'm sure perhaps it helps their economy.
00:41:10.000You know, the United States is a very young country.
00:41:13.000So if President Clinton, let's say, allowed foreign troops and declared a U.N. emergency, we saw a speech at the U.N. six months ago about starting bringing in U.N. forces to try to stop drugs as a new crusade.
00:43:25.000The cameras on the, where is this, Mopac or something?
00:43:32.000I understood it was where they could occasionally, well, they would have a bank of screens, and occasionally they could monitor traffic and see if there was any tie-ups or problems.
00:43:42.000But the new FEMA center, you heard about that?
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