Alex Jones Show - Alex Jones Rebuilding the Waco Church

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00:00:37.000 Their mission is to build a church on the grounds of Mark Carmel.

00:00:41.000 Lisa Hanna has the story.

00:00:47.000 After just a week of planning, dozens of volunteers from across the state gathered at Mount Carmel to build a church.

00:00:54.000 It's a project that was started by Austin Radio talk show host Alex Jones.

00:00:59.000 We're going to build this church back.

00:01:01.000 I've talked to these Valley Branch Davidians and they concur with my idea to have it a church and at the same time a memorial and a museum for what happened right here on this very ground in 1993. It's called the Phoenix Project, a church that will rise from the ashes of the Branch Davidian compound.

00:01:21.000 I think it's important that we have a place to worship again after our church was destroyed.

00:01:28.000 Volunteers are doing all the work.

00:01:30.000 Volunteers such as Austin contractor Mike Hansen.

00:01:33.000 We just think it's the right thing to do.

00:01:35.000 Jones says the 50 by 50 foot church is more than just a building.

00:01:39.000 He says it's a symbol of what happened here more than six years ago.

00:01:43.000 Jones calls it an attack on religious freedom.

00:01:45.000 Today's effort was organized by syndicated radio talk show host Alex Jones.

00:01:49.000 He says rebuilding the church will be a statewide effort.

00:01:53.000 And so now a large group of people here in Austin, we're going to be met by others in Waco and Temple and surrounding areas in Central Texas, are all going to travel to Mount Carmel, the site of the fiery conflagration in 1993, to rebuild the church sanctuary area of the Mount Carmel complex.

00:02:11.000 And the church is expected to be completed in about three months.

00:02:14.000 We're just thankful to God that...

00:02:18.000 There are certain people in this country that still got a spirit of assistance and wanting to do, you know, something to show their sympathy and their concern for what happened here, and we appreciate it.

00:02:31.000 Plans call for the new site to hold a new 30-by-40-foot white-frame church.

00:02:36.000 It's expected to be completed in two, two, three months.

00:02:38.000 Topic tonight's news, a scene of mass destruction becomes a foundation for a new beginning.

00:02:43.000 Good evening, I'm Kim Barnes.

00:02:44.000 And I'm Phil Scott.

00:02:44.000 Austin volunteers are rebuilding a chapel on the site of the Branch Davidian compound near Waco.

00:02:49.000 The compound burned down in 1993 after a 51-day standoff between Davidians and federal agents.

00:02:55.000 Davidian leader David Koresh and about 80 followers died.

00:02:58.000 KB24's Joel Thomas reports on the news.

00:03:03.000 I've known the Branch Davidians a long time, and I think they're good, God-fearing people.

00:03:08.000 I think they were demonized.

00:03:11.000 Most are galvanized by the thought the federal government murdered the Davidians.

00:03:15.000 They videotaped deputies who've come to hurry them along.

00:03:18.000 They don't trust law enforcement anymore, or the media.

00:03:21.000 With donated materials and labor...

00:03:24.000 Take exit number 339....they receive directions.

00:03:29.000 Head to ground zero.

00:03:30.000 We're gonna rebuild it!

00:03:32.000 Waco.

00:03:34.000 At the Davidian compound, the work begins even as the convoy pulls in.

00:03:41.000 We still have the stadium seating in here.

00:03:43.000 Plans are for a modest chapel.

00:03:46.000 They're in the process of digging these holes right now.

00:03:50.000 We anticipate at least three months for the construction process.

00:03:54.000 They build on the very site where America saw a shootout.

00:03:58.000 I think it's sad that a lot of people don't really care, you know, what happened here.

00:04:02.000 Seeing the battered rubble here staggers even those who've studied the standoff.

00:04:07.000 As I reflect on what happens, there's a sense even students of Waco don't know the entire message.

00:04:13.000 It's not the same.

00:04:14.000 I want to live here, but I need a trailer to do it, and I don't have the money.

00:04:19.000 You would come back out here and live like that?

00:04:20.000 You bet I would in a...

00:04:23.000 Watson walks in a memorial grove, each withered tree planted for someone who died here.

00:04:30.000 There is still a lonely vigil for David Koresh's return, a lonely feeling no one from outside of the compound can ever understand.

00:04:39.000 I'll tell you, when helicopters come after you, and you see them, and you hear them, and you know what they're doing, that's an entirely different story.

00:04:49.000 Even so, one of the workers who drove here from Austin says he feels like he's building a future tourist stop, a sort of Alamo for the Branch Davidians. 0.98

00:04:57.000 But one of the Branch Davidians who is here tells me that's okay. 1.00

00:05:00.000 After all, he says the only chapel they really need is in heaven.

00:05:04.000 In Waco, Joel Thomas, KVU 24 News.

00:05:11.000 All right.

00:05:13.000 Good morning, Mike.

00:05:14.000 I got you already.

00:05:17.000 We told everybody to meet us over there, and the KI van is running around at Capital Class.

00:05:22.000 We all want to go over there and sit in that parking lot.

00:05:27.000 I said McDonald's hundreds of times.

00:05:29.000 Let me drive over there.

00:05:31.000 I'll just drive over there.

00:05:33.000 Hi, Alex.

00:05:33.000 I'll bring him over here.

00:05:35.000 All right.

00:05:35.000 Did you see my brownie pants?

00:05:37.000 He's with Channel 8!

00:05:40.000 And he's with...

00:05:42.000 Channel 42!

00:05:44.000 If they were in the Capitol Plaza, that's Capitol Plaza.

00:05:46.000 Well, as you can see, it's about 10 after 7. By 7.30, we'll probably have about twice this number of people.

00:05:51.000 Good patriots standing up against this massive witch hunt was conducted unsuccessfully, I might add, in 1993.

00:05:58.000 What we're witnessing is a large group of Americans, Texans, here attempting to go to the way. 1.00

00:06:07.000 I was told that I don't think I'm right here.

00:06:11.000 Hey, I'm being told not to film and I wouldn't do it.

00:06:15.000 What are you saying?

00:06:18.000 Yeah.

00:06:19.000 She came over here and said I couldn't feel it.

00:06:22.000 I mean, I couldn't feel it.

00:06:24.000 She just wanted us to feel the love.

00:06:31.000 I'm sorry, bud.

00:06:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:06:37.000 It's just we're used to this.

00:06:40.000 What you're seeing is a group of Texans and Americans standing up against the police state, standing up against what happened to the Branch Davidians who were demonized back in 1993, the basic cover-up of the federal government.

00:06:51.000 And we're now witnessing the media and many others finally realizing that we've all been lied to, we've all been conned.

00:06:58.000 The Branch Davidians have never changed their story. 0.86

00:07:00.000 They've always told the truth.

00:07:02.000 And that's been worn out in the past six years.

00:07:04.000 And so now a large group of people here in Austin, we're going to be met by others in Waco and Temple and surrounding areas of Central Texas, are all going to travel to Mount Carmel, the site of the fiery conflagration in 1993, to rebuild the church sanctuary area of the Mount Carmel complex.

00:07:22.000 What exactly happened there in 1993?

00:07:25.000 If you could just give it to me.

00:07:27.000 I think you could analyze this morning.

00:07:29.000 What happened in 1993 was basically the BATF wanted to get their funding increased.

00:07:33.000 They were out there with four cameras.

00:07:36.000 They had a 100-man assault team that went in and basically opened fire first.

00:07:40.000 They were going there wanting blood.

00:07:42.000 They only had an arrest warrant for David Koresh, and they could have picked him up any time in town.

00:07:48.000 But they didn't choose to do that.

00:07:50.000 They sent in a 100-man assault force.

00:07:53.000 A 100-man assault force.

00:07:55.000 And opened fire.

00:07:57.000 Helicopter gunships came in.

00:07:59.000 And this is something that really hasn't been told, but we have the video evidence of it actually happening.

00:08:03.000 And then 51 days later after psychological warfare and basic torture...

00:08:07.000 And when people would try to leave, they would have flashbang grenades thrown at them.

00:08:11.000 Now the Texas Ranger report shows this.

00:08:13.000 They were basically contained.

00:08:15.000 The Army Special Operations Delta Force was sent in with the FBI's hostage rescue teams, and from the internal Delta Force memos that have now been confirmed to be real via the Freedom of Information Act, it showed that they discussed in the memos violence of action.

00:08:31.000 Basic arrest situation, not a hostage situation.

00:08:33.000 They went in there to basically, according to the Dallas Morning News, take them out.

00:08:38.000 And in Special Forces terms, and most people know what take them out means, because in Special Forces terms, it means kill them.

00:08:45.000 What exactly are you going to do today?

00:08:47.000 What exactly, how much are you going to get done today?

00:08:50.000 We're going, well, yesterday we were out there and we surveyed the area.

00:08:53.000 We put stakes in the ground.

00:08:55.000 We're basically going to dig the foundation.

00:08:58.000 We're going to pour the foundation, and that's the most important stage of any building project.

00:09:03.000 Then, in the next few weeks, we're going to move forward, start building the superstructure, and I would say within two and a half to three months, you'll have a fully functional sanctuary there for the Surviving Branch Davidians and for a monument to what happened in 1993. With the police and the military all working in concert, attacking any group of people. 0.52

00:09:23.000 It's horrible.

00:09:24.000 And then to see them demonized, where they were demonized, and all of that has been now disproven, is really a frightening trend in this country.

00:09:31.000 In fact, it's reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

00:09:33.000 And so we need to focus on that and have a historical perspective about how dangerous it is when you have these type of relationships forming.

00:09:41.000 The news media fell forward big time, didn't it?

00:09:44.000 A lot of Americans fell for it.

00:09:47.000 The news media was held back two and a half miles.

00:09:49.000 The only footage we got was a German news cam on a 24-foot platform on some ranch land from a far distance with a super-zoom lens, and all we got was the very front.

00:10:00.000 And incidentally, that probably saved Clive Doyle and David Thibodeau's lives because that...

00:10:05.000 The only people that survived were those that got out the front and side where the news cameras could actually get some footage.

00:10:11.000 Everyone that was herded towards the back by the tanks that actually went inside died.

00:10:16.000 We now have the actual flare footage of the Delta Force and the hostage rescue teams shooting the people as they tried to exit.

00:10:23.000 Now, what do you folks need to complete this mission?

00:10:26.000 We need people to donate time and materials, and yes, if they want money, but we will just go buy the materials we need and then deliver them to Central Point as we're doing this morning.

00:10:37.000 That's all we need is people's time and people's energy and people's heart, and we're going to be able to...

00:10:42.000 Say to certain elements of the government, it's not the whole government, but certain elements of the government that would try to engage in a cover-up and a smear campaign, a witch hunt against American citizens, we would say to them that this is about standing up and saying the people of Central Texas, the people of America, are firmly against this type of behavior.

00:10:59.000 Well, it's about freedom of it's about freedom of religion and the free exercise thereof.

00:11:26.000 It's-- The Davidians have never changed their story, and the government has.

00:11:31.000 And I've been studying it for, well, ever since it happened.

00:11:35.000 And as time goes on, I begin to realize this was basically a witch hunt.

00:11:38.000 It was about getting more funding for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

00:11:42.000 And what happened here was wrong.

00:11:43.000 We've got an Air Force base over here.

00:11:45.000 We've got a great observation tower over there.

00:11:48.000 We've got nice little undercover houses.

00:11:50.000 They picked this place.

00:11:51.000 It was a perfect...

00:11:53.000 Perfect area to basically ambush a group of innocent people and start initiating America into the modern police state. 0.74

00:12:00.000 Let's talk about today.

00:12:02.000 Sure.

00:12:04.000 How did you get everything organized here?

00:12:08.000 Who brought this all together?

00:12:10.000 What's the plan for that?

00:12:12.000 Well, for years, coming to the remembrances, we've talked about trying to do something for the Davidians, but it was all talk.

00:12:21.000 Finally, myself and Mike Hanson said, look, let's just do it.

00:12:23.000 I think we can get people behind it.

00:12:25.000 I think there's enough people in Central Texas that care and realize what happened was wrong.

00:12:29.000 And so we put it together.

00:12:32.000 In fact, we started announcing it last Monday, and here we are on Sunday, as we said we would, and a lot of great people have shown up.

00:12:37.000 More are on their way from Dallas and Fort Worth and right here in Waco and Temple and Austin and all areas in between, and we're going to build this church back.

00:12:47.000 I've talked to Surviving Branch Davidians and they concur with my idea to have a church and at the same time a memorial and a museum for what happened right here on this very ground in 1993. So is it safe to say that most of the people out here today are just people out here?

00:13:02.000 I believe there's only four Davidians out here today, Surviving Branch Davidians. 0.99

00:13:11.000 Now these are just concerned citizens from here in Texas and from all across America.

00:13:16.000 I'm hearing about this and saying that they're going to come for at least part of the construction.

00:13:21.000 So this is mainly a volunteer effort, central text, and showing the world that, hey, we think what happened here was wrong.

00:13:27.000 These people's constitutional rights were violated.

00:13:30.000 They were stamped as criminals and paraded before the press and basically demonized.

00:13:36.000 And I don't even blame the press for that.

00:13:38.000 It was the government.

00:13:38.000 They held the media back two and a half miles and then engaged in their demonization program.

00:13:43.000 And we're here to say, hey.

00:13:44.000 Enough is enough.

00:13:45.000 We're not going to talk and argue about this anymore.

00:13:47.000 We're here to support these people and support America.

00:13:49.000 That's what America's about.

00:13:50.000 What's the time frame in terms of what you guys are doing today?

00:13:55.000 Well, we have built another home for a veteran in Austin, Texas, Joe Campana.

00:14:00.000 We did that in 14 days, a city record, and that's fully furnished because the bulldozers were coming.

00:14:05.000 They condemned his old home and said he wasn't going to help him.

00:14:07.000 That took 14 days, but that was inside Austin in the metropolitan area.

00:14:11.000 Since we are outside Waco and Bellmead, I can certainly say three months, but probably within a month and a half to two months you'll have a fully completed church.

00:14:19.000 We need to complete it that fast to keep our momentum up and get the job done properly.

00:14:24.000 As far as the land dispute goes, they said it's okay to go ahead and build on this.

00:14:28.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:14:29.000 Well, Clive Doyle's paid the back taxes.

00:14:31.000 Clive Doyle, as you see, lives here on the property in his mobile home.

00:14:36.000 Regardless of what ends up happening with the land, and I've talked to attorneys and others, and it's even been in the Waco Tribune, that basically once a church is built here, it'll just be up to the trustees of the church who basically owns the property.

00:14:46.000 So it's even more of an, let's say, affirming whose property this is, and this property belongs to the surviving branch Davidians, and Clive Doyle's paid the back taxes.

00:14:57.000 But regardless, we're building a memorial to what happened here, and I don't think anybody would ever want to tear it down.

00:15:04.000 Hey, thank you, sir.

00:15:05.000 Appreciate it.

00:15:08.000 Could you address any legal ramifications or legal advantages that you would have building a church here?

00:15:17.000 Well, I've talked to attorneys and I've actually read some of the reports, some of the published reports.

00:15:23.000 Clive Doyle's already positioned.

00:15:24.000 He has a renowned attorney, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark.

00:15:30.000 He's paid the taxes.

00:15:31.000 And regardless of who gets this property, this place will always be basically a battlefield museum almost.

00:15:40.000 People are going to be coming out here probably forever wanting to understand what happened here.

00:15:45.000 So basically that's why we're here.

00:15:47.000 We want to put a mark on history saying the people of Central Texas and America said, no, this is wrong what happened here, and we're not going to believe the propaganda.

00:15:57.000 We're not going to believe the lies, and hopefully by leading by example, the media and others that are finally starting to wake up to what happened will also join us in trying to heal some of the wounds.

00:16:08.000 Thank you.

00:16:12.000 Okay, here it is with a shovel.

00:16:22.000 Not yet.

00:16:23.000 Not yet, just stand still.

00:16:52.000 Everybody's talking about these tear gas rounds.

00:16:56.000 It's the 250, 40 millimeter high explosive rounds.

00:17:00.000 Ray, Ray!

00:17:01.000 You know what?

00:17:02.000 Shot that helicopter down here.

00:17:03.000 You know Mario.

00:17:04.000 You remember Mario?

00:17:05.000 Yeah.

00:17:06.000 Ray, I got one.

00:17:07.000 Well, we had a very little labor.

00:17:09.000 I love Miss Catherine.

00:17:13.000 I love Miss Catherine.

00:17:15.000 There she is!

00:17:16.000 We're gonna rebuild you a nice beautiful church out here!

00:17:19.000 There she is!

00:17:20.000 Miss.

00:17:21.000 Sheila, how you doing?

00:17:22.000 Hi, I'm proud of y'all.

00:17:27.000 Oh, it's good.

00:17:30.000 I'm glad.

00:17:31.000 We're going to go over there by the back wheel of that pickup truck.

00:17:46.000 Hey, you burn it, we rebuild it.

00:17:54.000 We're going to have a lot of grasshoppers to begin with. 0.97

00:18:24.000 Does anybody need any sunscreen?

00:18:29.000 I'll scan it in.

00:18:30.000 I'll go to a one-hour photo.

00:18:31.000 Although, there was a guy here earlier, he's got a digital camera, and he said he's going to email me some of his photos.

00:18:36.000 and I figure once people see the activity they'll be Steve Williams swinging it As he always does.

00:18:57.000 He's been involved in so many projects now.

00:19:03.000 No breeze at all folks.

00:19:11.000 There's Keith helping cut the seal.

00:19:14.000 Put the steel cutter. 0.99

00:19:16.000 Tying the steel.

00:19:25.000 Trying to.

00:19:29.000 Well, they're doing a great job.

00:19:32.000 Thank you.

00:19:33.000 You're welcome, man.

00:19:34.000 We ain't gonna take it anymore.

00:19:38.000 No, we're not gonna take it anymore.

00:19:42.000 We're riding upon the wall.

00:19:47.000 We got crime overtaking our cities.

00:19:52.000 We got gangs taking over our streets.

00:19:56.000 We keep handing out more and more welfare, though it never seems to meet their needs. - He's scattered from the back. - And down, Alex.

00:20:07.000 - Come on son, sit down right here.

00:20:14.000 - Get out of the house.

00:20:18.000 - Hey, shoot. - Everybody say Central Texas Resistance.

00:20:22.000 - Free to fight.

00:20:24.000 - Nothing you're saying about that. - I need Mike Hansen.

00:20:30.000 Why?

00:20:31.000 I'm all messed up.

00:20:33.000 You mean they've got none of the materials we need?

00:20:36.000 What about a Home Depot?

00:20:39.000 Oh, you mean...

00:20:40.000 I had an accident a year ago here.

00:20:43.000 Is that right?

00:20:44.000 Shredder.

00:20:45.000 Yeah?

00:20:46.000 Shredder, huh?

00:20:49.000 Shredded my whole heel off.

00:20:51.000 Damn.

00:20:52.000 And I had to have it amputated two days later.

00:20:54.000 All the way to the knee?

00:20:56.000 No, about eight inches below the eight.

00:20:58.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:59.000 But I was walking within eight weeks, six days.

00:21:02.000 Yes, sir.

00:21:03.000 Praise God.

00:21:04.000 Yes, sir.

00:21:05.000 Well, you're a local, aren't you?

00:21:06.000 Yeah, I live here.

00:21:07.000 I'm a camel.

00:21:08.000 Oh, you do?

00:21:09.000 Yeah.

00:21:10.000 I'm a pastor here.

00:21:11.000 Oh, okay.

00:21:12.000 Yeah.

00:21:13.000 That dairy barn back there is our chapel.

00:21:16.000 Oh, okay.

00:21:17.000 And hopefully it's going to cool off pretty soon.

00:21:19.000 We've got a lot of folks out here today.

00:21:22.000 A lot of folks are still working hard, a lot harder than I had.

00:21:24.000 You guys, make sure you don't have heat exhaustion.

00:21:26.000 Drink lots of fluids.

00:21:27.000 It feels good.

00:21:30.000 Challenging the false reality.

00:21:32.000 Not playing along with all their garbage.

00:21:35.000 Put it in their face.

00:21:36.000 Getting up off our butts.

00:21:38.000 This is good, ladies and gentlemen.

00:21:40.000 This is important.

00:21:41.000 This is fantastic.

00:21:46.000 God bless you all.

00:21:47.000 We're going to build this thing.

00:22:15.000 This man does it all.

00:22:28.000 Even the Lord will be in that number.

00:22:34.000 When we have reached that heavenly.

00:22:39.000 What are we doing?

00:22:43.000 This is the four of the cars.

00:22:44.000 You say something.

00:22:46.000 No.

00:22:47.000 That's Jeff Davis digging.

00:22:50.000 Is that Jeff Davis digging?

00:22:52.000 Jeff Davis.

00:22:53.000 How long has he been out here digging?

00:22:54.000 An hour now.

00:22:55.000 Oh, he's got the pick.

00:22:57.000 Oh, get out of the way. 1.00

00:22:59.000 Jeff Davis got the pick.

00:23:02.000 He's blue-eyed, you know.

00:23:04.000 One eye blue left, the other one blue right.

00:23:10.000 It's been a while.

00:23:14.000 Get used to it.

00:23:21.000 Get out of the way, Keith.

00:23:27.000 Let it swing.

00:23:29.000 Oh, I thought he had a hernia.

00:23:35.000 He better stop.

00:23:37.000 He ain't got no hernia.

00:23:42.000 What'd you find?

00:23:43.000 Okay, this is to a.44 Magnum.

00:23:46.000 Yep.

00:23:48.000 You can tell.

00:23:49.000 You know all about guns.

00:23:51.000 Heck yeah, you're a great American kid, ain't you?

00:23:54.000 And this is to a 9mm.

00:23:56.000 That's a 9mm shell?

00:23:57.000 Uh-huh.

00:23:58.000 You got some bullets there.

00:24:00.000 .308.

00:24:00.000 Same man who did Joe Campana's house.

00:24:03.000 What's going on, Jimmy?

00:24:15.000 Hi.

00:24:16.000 Hold on just a minute.

00:24:19.000 I already got you on there going like that, looking so pretty.

00:24:25.000 Hello, Alex.

00:24:27.000 Hello, Jimmy.

00:24:29.000 Just got done eating some great food.

00:24:31.000 My friends call me Pokey, like Slow Pokey.

00:24:32.000 I know, Pokey.

00:24:33.000 How's it going?

00:24:34.000 It's going.

00:24:35.000 I appreciate your help out here on this project.

00:24:37.000 As you can see, we're ahead of schedule.

00:24:39.000 Pouring all the cement with 60-something holes we've dug, all the spec.

00:24:44.000 We've got the engineer.

00:24:45.000 60 holes, all the spec.

00:24:47.000 Yep.

00:24:48.000 There's my dump truck over there.

00:24:49.000 It is great.

00:24:52.000 Great job.

00:24:53.000 That's my brother.

00:24:54.000 Great job, Ritter, for bringing all the concrete.

00:24:57.000 I'm saying hi to him.

00:24:58.000 You know I'm seeing, aren't you?

00:24:59.000 Okay.

00:25:00.000 Hi, team. - Oh, that's good.

00:25:03.000 Hey, there's one of Gene's ex-girlfriends over there already. 1.00

00:25:06.000 That's hi.

00:25:07.000 Hold on, Alex.

00:25:08.000 We're going to have lost this.

00:25:10.000 It's the ones of us that ain't the exes that count.

00:25:15.000 Eight black helicopters, buildings on fire.

00:25:18.000 San Antonio, where are you guys from?

00:25:22.000 Cleveland, Fort Worth, Harrison.

00:25:23.000 Call down to...

00:25:26.000 Call down and just ask the police department about the Delta Force and the bribery and how the police chief and the mayor had to throw them out.

00:25:32.000 What's your loving Delta Force that was here?

00:25:34.000 Your loving Army Special Operations?

00:25:37.000 But it's been five years, six years?

00:25:38.000 How many years has it been?

00:25:39.000 Six and a half years.

00:25:40.000 I mean, why did it take you all so long to come up here?

00:25:43.000 Because there's been a big issue going on in the land.

00:25:46.000 Well, number one, for about, what, three years they had barbed wire around it and the feds wouldn't let you in on it.

00:25:49.000 Well, that was a lot of offenses, but no, there's a land issue still pending, but...

00:25:55.000 It's almost there.

00:25:56.000 Yeah, and Klaus paid the taxes on it.

00:25:58.000 For the last five years.

00:25:59.000 We just moved forward.

00:26:00.000 You know, it feels good to actually do something to my life.

00:26:03.000 Not just react to the media and all the rest of it.

00:26:06.000 I don't think we're supposed to be here now, but we're here anyway.

00:26:09.000 Yeah, governments can stomp and kill people in other countries. 0.97

00:26:12.000 They're not going to do it here.

00:26:13.000 The next time they try it, they're going to be in for an unhappy surprise.

00:26:16.000 Just that simple.

00:26:17.000 I've confronted FBI and BATF out here right on this very ground.

00:26:20.000 That's right.

00:26:20.000 Out here spouting their propaganda.

00:26:22.000 I'm just sick of it.

00:26:23.000 They can blow up their federal buildings in Oklahoma City like Hitler, Bernd, and Reichstag. 0.90

00:26:27.000 They can build their concentration camps. 0.97

00:26:29.000 They can gear up for the fun they've got prepared for all of us.

00:26:32.000 It's history of the world.

00:26:33.000 From Rome to Babylon to Nazi Germany to Russia to China to Indonesia.

00:26:39.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 See, people always doubt it because we're not taught the face of evil.

00:26:44.000 We're never taught the face of evil.

00:26:45.000 They always show us something else than what the person was really like or the system was truly like.

00:26:50.000 You haven't noticed your military is merging with your police, basically?

00:26:54.000 I don't know.

00:26:55.000 We've had about four Marines out here that have gotten out.

00:26:57.000 They're still in.

00:26:58.000 They're out training with foreign troops, put people in camps.

00:27:01.000 Just find a young Marine who's in force recon with the elite forces.

00:27:03.000 Ask them about it.

00:27:05.000 The whole doctrine's changed.

00:27:06.000 And they got new uniforms, by the way.

00:27:08.000 They're gray and black.

00:27:09.000 Our Marines have urban warfare, and they wear SWAT team knee pads and stuff.

00:27:13.000 Ready to rock, man.

00:27:15.000 Ready to rock into the American future.

00:27:16.000 It's all about.

00:27:18.000 And what was Delta Force doing out here serving a search warrant that they never brought with them?

00:27:23.000 I mean, since when has Delta Force served?

00:27:25.000 Delta Force was here with them on the first day, and that's now been proven.

00:27:28.000 But see, what you've got to do is you've got to go to the Texas Rangers website.

00:27:32.000 That's Texas Rangers, far from Cooke's.

00:27:33.000 They'll tell you about mines and explosives placed on top, 40-millimeter exploding rounds, Delta Force running around and killing people with want and abandon.

00:27:42.000 It's all there for everybody to read.

00:27:44.000 So it's interesting.

00:27:46.000 What, are you guys police or something?

00:27:47.000 No.

00:27:51.000 No, I just...

00:27:52.000 We always like to talk to people.

00:27:55.000 I was interrogated like I was being interrogated by police.

00:27:59.000 The other thing...

00:28:00.000 You're a pastor.

00:28:01.000 You're a pastor.

00:28:02.000 What are you a pastor good for?

00:28:03.000 Who cares?

00:28:05.000 This was an education in itself.

00:28:08.000 The point is, I've talked to hundreds of Americans that say, well, are people like that really healthy for America?

00:28:12.000 Who created your perceptions?

00:28:14.000 Who were the scientifically crafted...

00:28:17.000 Spend doctor campaign, and then are you strong enough to go back and look at the evidence or even spend the time?

00:28:23.000 You know, go to the library.

00:28:25.000 Go look at the information.

00:28:27.000 Look up at the data.

00:28:27.000 Watch the wake of the rules of engagement.

00:28:29.000 The FBI's own flare footage that was snuck out by a good FBI agent.

00:28:32.000 There's footage of them gunning people down.

00:28:37.000 Let's go back to day one.

00:28:38.000 That's all about who shot first.

00:28:41.000 The missing doors.

00:28:43.000 Which way do the bullets go through the doors?

00:28:45.000 What is that?

00:28:47.000 37mm.

00:28:48.000 This is a police tear gas type weapon.

00:28:52.000 We got some fragments from 40mm.

00:28:54.000 But not tear gas, explosive.

00:28:57.000 If you read the Dallas Morning News, you'll read about it.

00:28:59.000 Also, uh... I'm working with all of the guys who are not shooting.

00:29:05.000 They're still pulling up in the catalog.

00:29:07.000 Six Delta Force men who died in the last week.

00:29:12.000 I hadn't heard about any of these people here.

00:29:14.000 A half hour?

00:29:15.000 I got a syndicated radio.

00:29:17.000 I'll see you.

00:29:19.000 I'm going to go get some of the game.

00:29:20.000 Thank you for...

00:29:21.000 I was just telling them how I first met Jeff Davis of the Jeff Davis Show.

00:29:29.000 And he thought I was nuts, and of course he's right. 0.64

00:29:33.000 But how Mike Hanson had overheard us talking, and Mike come to me and said he wanted to learn.

00:29:39.000 And Mike's taken off like a duck to water, and he and Alex are together, so...

00:29:44.000 All I know is we're getting this built.

00:29:46.000 We're going to build it.

00:29:47.000 Huh?

00:29:47.000 We're going to build this place.

00:29:48.000 By the hand of God, y'all will build it.

00:29:50.000 Months of Sundays, but it might take...

00:29:52.000 Months of Sundays.

00:29:53.000 That's right.

00:29:53.000 Might take two months of Sundays.

00:29:55.000 You can call it the hand of God.

00:29:56.000 You can call it wherever you want.

00:29:57.000 I don't know what we're going to do.

00:30:00.000 Alright, guys.

00:30:01.000 Where are you putting your name at?

00:30:04.000 What are we building?

00:30:06.000 A church.

00:30:07.000 For who?

00:30:09.000 What is this, Jesse?

00:30:12.000 Mount Carmel?

00:30:14.000 Yes.

00:30:15.000 Not so big.

00:30:17.000 That camera he's got, Dad?

00:30:19.000 He's got night vision.

00:30:21.000 You can't kill him at night and do it.

00:30:23.000 Hey, Josh.

00:30:24.000 What are you all using?

00:30:25.000 Nails. 0.99

00:30:27.000 Go ahead, Josh.

00:30:28.000 Put this in there, too.

00:30:30.000 There's some handprints.

00:30:32.000 And are we supposed to be using our whole name?

00:30:36.000 Just our first name?

00:30:42.000 Just our first name?

00:30:43.000 Steve, that's right, Steve Lane.

00:30:46.000 Hey, Steve Lane.

00:30:47.000 Don't mess with me.

00:30:50.000 Steve Lane used to be on the...

00:30:54.000 How's it going?

00:30:55.000 ...on the something.

00:30:58.000 It used to be all one of the shows we produced.

00:31:01.000 Freedom Report with Alex Jones, then the Freedom Report by myself.

00:31:06.000 Then it became the Trailer Park Show.

00:31:08.000 Of course, well, now it's the Trailer Park Show, but then it was...

00:31:11.000 What did we start it out as, Jimmy?

00:31:15.000 I don't know.

00:31:17.000 You were in charge.

00:31:18.000 Not Conspiracy Debate.

00:31:20.000 And you didn't take charge very well.

00:31:22.000 I'm sorry, I'm really tired.

00:31:24.000 It was originally Conspiracy Debate.

00:31:24.000 I had to work.

00:31:26.000 But then we changed it to...

00:31:27.000 Freedom Forum.

00:31:31.000 Freedom Forum.

00:31:32.000 That was it.

00:31:32.000 That was your idea.

00:31:34.000 And believe it or not, I had somebody...

00:31:36.000 Well, I don't think Freedom Forum was my name.

00:31:38.000 I think Mike Hanson thought.

00:31:42.000 Well...

00:31:42.000 It came out for the better.

00:31:45.000 Yeah, now I just stick up with it.

00:31:46.000 Planet Park Show is a good show.

00:31:48.000 I think I've watched it before on spring.net.

00:31:51.000 Yeah, 10-4 on spring.net.

00:31:54.000 And there was a little...

00:31:55.000 Well, what did you think?

00:31:56.000 I liked it.

00:31:57.000 I can't remember which episode I saw now.

00:31:59.000 Can I have a nail?

00:32:01.000 Where's the nail?

00:32:02.000 You ain't seen them all?

00:32:04.000 No.

00:32:05.000 Alex Jones.

00:32:06.000 You burn it, we rebuild it.

00:32:08.000 There it is right there.

00:32:09.000 Look at there, folks.

00:32:11.000 You burn it, we rebuild it.

00:32:14.000 Right over the heart.

00:32:16.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 Right over...

00:32:21.000 - She's supposed to be dumping some dirt. - Okay guys, don't jump.

00:32:29.000 He's gonna bang the door.

Alex Jones Show - September 19, 1999

Alex Jones Rebuilding the Waco Church

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