Alex Jones Show - Full Alex Jones - Nick Fuentes Debate Should American Patriots Abandon Trump Over His Handling of The Epstein Files?

00:00:14.000 23, four days ago, Trump put out that Justice Department memo.

00:00:19.000 I said, Trump's behind it.

00:00:20.000 People said, oh, you're attacking Trump.

00:00:22.000 And then he came out later and said, no, it's me.

00:00:24.000 Don't ask questions.

00:00:25.000 Shut up about it.

00:00:27.000 And I said, this is incredibly suspicious.

00:00:29.000 And now they're running around with the Justice Department meet with Gislane Maxwell.

00:00:33.000 It looks bad.

00:00:35.000 But people taking what I've said out of context when I'm wargaming this, because I think they would have used information against Trump if they had it before.

00:00:46.000 With that said now, the jury's out on Trump.

00:00:48.000 The jury's in on the Democrats and Epstein Island and Bill Gates and Larry Summers and all the rest of it.

00:00:56.000 So I'm not an apologist for Trump.

00:00:58.000 All I get is persecuted and attacked for supporting President Trump.

00:01:06.000 And I've seen clips of Nick.

00:01:07.000 I played it earlier before he came on.

00:01:10.000 And I'm not saying it's a wrong critique, but out of context, you could see it.

00:01:15.000 No, I'm looking for the truth.

00:01:17.000 And my issue is, do we throw out Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Cabard and all the good things that are happening?

00:01:23.000 If stuff comes out that he's screwing kids with Trump, of course, I'm going to expose it.

00:01:27.000 I mean, I'm not tied to that wagon.

00:01:29.000 But in the larger issue, is the Epstein issue the only issue?

00:01:34.000 And it's not like Nick Fuentez just came out and said, I'm against Trump now.

00:01:38.000 He said it a year and a half ago.

00:01:40.000 He was a big supporter early on.

00:01:41.000 So I met him nine years ago.

00:01:42.000 And I think Nick's a smart guy.

00:01:43.000 I agree with most of the things he says.

00:01:44.000 I disagree with Trump.

00:01:45.000 So we are having a large discussion.

00:01:49.000 You call it a debate here.

00:01:50.000 But I want to be 100% clear.

00:01:52.000 I will go where the facts lead.

00:01:54.000 I'm not an apologist for Trump.

00:01:57.000 But at the same time, we need to recognize that the Democrats and the ADL and the Republicans joining him do not want this discussion.

00:02:06.000 They do not want Nick Jay Fuentez on Rumble.

00:02:08.000 They do not want Alex Jones on X or Infowars.

00:02:11.000 They do not like this tonight because they don't want you to hear a real unfiltered discussion.

00:02:17.000 Because I sent Nick a text like last Tuesday and said, will you come on debate?

00:02:22.000 He said, yeah, how about next Wednesday night?

00:02:24.000 I said, great, we're doing it.

00:02:25.000 That's the only discussions we've had.

00:02:28.000 All right.

00:02:29.000 And so this isn't some scripted debate.

00:02:33.000 This is a real discussion.

00:02:35.000 And it's not about who's smarter.

00:02:38.000 And it's not about, I don't mind all that stuff.

00:02:41.000 Nick's 26 years old, super smart.

00:02:43.000 I thought he was smart when I first met him nine years ago.

00:02:45.000 That's why I have Nick on.

00:02:47.000 He's a great interview.

00:02:48.000 He's great for the show.

00:02:49.000 I've got a big show.

00:02:50.000 He's a big show.

00:02:50.000 It's not about personalities.

00:02:52.000 To me, it's about really figuring out what's happening.

00:02:56.000 But to open the debate, and I'll give the floor for the next 10 minutes, I want to be clear.

00:03:02.000 If you actually watch my show, I'm not running defense for Trump.

00:03:06.000 I don't know what the truth is.

00:03:08.000 I'm completely freaked out.

00:03:09.000 I've said Trump's acting insanely guilty.

00:03:13.000 And I've only wargamed every angle of this trying to figure out what's going on because I do a four-hour show and the Democrats ran stuff nationwide saying I've turned on Trump 23 days ago.

00:03:28.000 I don't care about being on CNN and ABC and NPR and every other channel.

00:03:32.000 Those people don't listen to me anyways.

00:03:34.000 But they take little 10-second clips out of context.

00:03:36.000 I know they do that.

00:03:37.000 I just don't want Nick and my viewers to do that.

00:03:41.000 I want you to listen to what I'm actually saying.

00:03:44.000 Clearly, Epstein's massage.

00:03:47.000 The CIA has asked Trump to cover it up.

00:03:49.000 I think that's no-brainer.

00:03:50.000 The question is, is Trump involved?

00:03:53.000 If he was, where is the evidence?

00:03:56.000 So I haven't figured this out yet.

00:03:58.000 And all I'm doing is stream of consciousness.

00:04:02.000 What you get on my show is what I'm thinking.

00:04:06.000 No scripting, no nothing.

00:04:08.000 And usually my job's easy.

00:04:11.000 Is fentanyl good?

00:04:12.000 Is open borders good?

00:04:12.000 No.

00:04:13.000 Is war with Russia good? 0.98

00:04:13.000 No. 0.98

00:04:14.000 No.

00:04:15.000 Is there available attack on Iran?

00:04:17.000 No.

00:04:18.000 My job, 95% of the time, is very easy.

00:04:21.000 It's these type of issues where I can tell the listeners I don't know.

00:04:27.000 So, Nick, you've got the floor to say whatever you want here.

00:04:29.000 I'm going to shut up for about 10 minutes because I've been talking for about five.

00:04:33.000 And then I'm going to ask you the question after that.

00:04:35.000 Maybe you can address it now.

00:04:37.000 Okay, we can send Trump to Mars.

00:04:40.000 What comes next?

00:04:41.000 Is this accelerationism?

00:04:44.000 If Kamala was there, would that be better?

00:04:46.000 Maybe it would because it pisses off more.

00:04:48.000 I just don't know.

00:04:49.000 So this is one of the few issues where I will tell listeners, I don't know.

00:04:55.000 And all I can do is wargame each scenario.

00:04:58.000 And I would just ask people to realize, if you see a 30-second club, actually go see what I said because I will then say something completely different because I'm wargaming and don't know.

00:05:09.000 So Nick is simulcast on Rumble, Nick J. Fuentes and on X. Great to have you, Nick.

00:05:14.000 Thank you so much for the time.

00:05:16.000 Hey, Alex, great to be with you.

00:05:18.000 Yes, well, you know, we did promote this as a debate and we hyped it up and everything, but I agree with you.

00:05:25.000 I think it is more fruitful as a discussion because like you, I think me and the audience, we're trying to get to the truth.

00:05:31.000 We want to know what is really going on here.

00:05:34.000 And I also agree with you that we don't know.

00:05:37.000 That's sort of the nature of it.

00:05:39.000 That's why people have a problem.

00:05:40.000 We just don't know because the government is not releasing the files.

00:05:45.000 And this Epstein scandal has been like many of the other scandals concerning the deepest and most sordid types of corruption.

00:05:53.000 It's hidden.

00:05:53.000 It's concealed.

00:05:54.000 There is not government transparency.

00:05:57.000 And without transparency, there can't be accountability.

00:06:00.000 And so all of this is happening inside of the shadows.

00:06:02.000 Now, that gets to my biggest criticism of Trump.

00:06:05.000 And, you know, you said this a moment ago, and I understand where you're coming from.

00:06:10.000 You say, are there other issues besides the Epstein issue?

00:06:13.000 I've heard a lot of people say this.

00:06:15.000 They say that for the MAGA base, which I consider myself a part of, even though I didn't vote for Trump on the demographic, if the MAGA base is in revolt over the Epstein files, people say, are you throwing out the baby with the bathwater?

00:06:29.000 What about The secure border?

00:06:31.000 What about the progress that's being made, as you say, by RFK Jr., by Tulsi Gabbard, the good things that are happening at the administration?

00:06:38.000 Is it worth it?

00:06:39.000 In other words, people say if he's failing on one narrow issue like Epstein, which people say realistically doesn't actually affect people's daily lives, they say, is that a mistake?

00:06:51.000 Now, my position is that you can't compartmentalize these issues.

00:06:54.000 Contrary to that take or that defense, I don't think you're capable.

00:06:59.000 I don't think it's possible to separate and cordon off the Epstein issue and say that's over here and immigration and foreign policy and the rest of it is over there.

00:07:09.000 Because the proposition of the first Trump campaign going back 10 years ago in 2016, or even in 2015, when Trump ran in the primary, he said that the reason that our politicians had failed us over 30 years on both sides, Republican side, Democrat side, the right and the left, he said is not for a lack of trying, not for lack of will.

00:07:31.000 He said it's because the system has failed us.

00:07:33.000 It's because of corruption.

00:07:34.000 They can't deliver a real victory because they're not beholden to the people.

00:07:39.000 Instead, they're beholden to foreign interests, special interests, donors, political PACs.

00:07:45.000 And there was a suggestion of blackmail.

00:07:48.000 There's a suggestion of a shadow operation happening behind the scenes.

00:07:54.000 So why do we get these policies that are bad for America, like free trade, foreign wars, mass migration? 0.99

00:08:00.000 They said, well, it's because the politicians are not really the ones running the country.

00:08:04.000 They're not running the country on behalf of the voters or the people, but rather they're being controlled by the money or the intelligence agencies or by some shadow element, the nature of which we don't fully understand.

00:08:17.000 Now, he said, in contravention of all of this, I will run and I will deliver the real victories.

00:08:24.000 I will reverse all the policies because I'm not controlled by those interests.

00:08:28.000 And there was this foil with him and Hillary Clinton.

00:08:31.000 Hillary Clinton personified that system. 1.00

00:08:34.000 And she did come from the Democrat side, but she personified realistically both sides, the Bush dynasty, the Clinton dynasty, the Republicans, the Democrats, the Dennis Hasterts, and the Bill Clintons.

00:08:46.000 Hillary Clinton was the epitome of corruption and the epitome of globalism. 1.00

00:08:50.000 And so at 16, you have this proposition of, I'm going to run with no foreign influence, no blackmail.

00:08:56.000 I'm going to fight the corruption and then deliver the victory.

00:08:59.000 Now, fast forward 10 years later, and Trump seems to be covering up what is really the scandal of all scandals.

00:09:05.000 It's the worst kind of scandal.

00:09:07.000 It's got every negative attribute involved.

00:09:10.000 It's children.

00:09:11.000 It's sexual trafficking. 0.93

00:09:13.000 It's blackmail.

00:09:13.000 It's foreign intelligence.

00:09:15.000 It's billionaire oligarchs.

00:09:17.000 And you say, if Trump is covering that up, we lose faith in him.

00:09:21.000 He loses all credibility as that leader, as that Caesar-like leader, this once-in-a-generation figure leading a once-in-a-generation populist movement.

00:09:30.000 It strips it of that character.

00:09:32.000 And to get a lot, maybe a lot of this is rhetoric.

00:09:35.000 Let's make it more concrete.

00:09:37.000 If Trump is burying the Epstein files, which we don't know the information because that's exactly what's happening.

00:09:43.000 And we'll get into that, I'm sure, as the night progresses.

00:09:45.000 But if Trump is burying these Epstein files and we can't trust him, it leads to questions like, why are we not getting mass deportations?

00:09:53.000 Why are we getting a war with Iran?

00:09:55.000 The timing of all this is a little conspicuous too.

00:09:58.000 Is it because there's maybe more to the story?

00:10:01.000 Do we have to draw a negative inference that he's covering these things up because he's named in them, because he's a participant in them?

00:10:09.000 He's compromised by them in some way.

00:10:11.000 Is that why we're not getting what's delivered?

00:10:13.000 And how can we trust that he will deliver in the future?

00:10:16.000 So to answer maybe the big defense of Trump, and I agree with you, we have to steel man the other position.

00:10:24.000 We may not even agree with it.

00:10:27.000 We might state it simply to entertain it.

00:10:30.000 If the pro-Trump side is saying, if their argument is, well, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

00:10:35.000 The Epstein thing is a narrow, singular issue.

00:10:38.000 If that's the primary defense, I would have to say it's not good enough because if he's named in these files, then everything is compromised.

00:10:46.000 Everything is touched and poisoned by the corruption.

00:10:49.000 And when this cover-up is going on, unfortunately, we cannot assume that he is not touched by it.

00:10:55.000 We actually have to draw a negative inference.

00:10:57.000 That's sort of the whole point.

00:10:59.000 And I, like you, I actually don't believe that Trump is necessarily guilty.

00:11:04.000 I think that is a assumption.

00:11:07.000 I think that's an inference.

00:11:08.000 I don't even think it's necessarily true that Trump was on the island or that Trump was raping kids or that there's a videotape of Trump.

00:11:15.000 I don't think that's even likely.

00:11:17.000 But when he has covered it up in the way that he has, and as he's dug this hole deeper and deeper, having the DOJ cover it up, asking the FBI to look for his name, they told him his name was in there.

00:11:30.000 Now he says his name was planted in there.

00:11:33.000 He says the whole thing's a hoax.

00:11:35.000 You actually have to draw a negative inference and assume if he's covering it up, there must be something there.

00:11:41.000 If there wasn't something there, they would release the files.

00:11:45.000 And so that's why I think this entire thing has disqualified him completely.

00:11:49.000 I don't think it's one narrow issue, a singular issue among others.

00:11:54.000 And even if it were, it's not a minimal issue.

00:11:57.000 I think it touches everything.

00:11:58.000 And I think the very nature of these types of cover-ups, the nature of the opacity, the fact that it's opaque, the fact that we cannot see through it, the fact that it's been covered up and there's been a deception, there's been an active cover-up, an attempt to change the subject and lie about the nature of it.

00:12:15.000 We actually have to draw a negative inference and we actually have to assume that there is something damning in there.

00:12:20.000 That's why we're not getting it.

00:12:22.000 And if that's the case, then that means he's corrupt and he's in on it with the rest of them.

00:12:25.000 Now, I want to answer the question you said at the end because that's actually super important.

00:12:28.000 And I'll sort of treat this like an opening statement.

00:12:30.000 I don't want to ramble on and on and on.

00:12:33.000 You got like three or four minutes left.

00:12:35.000 Keep going.

00:12:36.000 Well, and to your point about what comes next, because that's a very good question.

00:12:36.000 Sure.

00:12:40.000 A lot of people wonder if Trump is failing, or that's the perception on many of these issues, like the foreign policy, like immigration, like the Epstein cover-up.

00:12:49.000 Question is, well, what comes next?

00:12:50.000 Are we at the mercy of the left now?

00:12:52.000 Are we supposed to now just be buried under Zoron Mandanis and Kamala Harris's and race communists and Sharia law and this sort of Thing. 0.62

00:13:01.000 What I would say about Trump is this simple adage: when you come at the king, you can't miss.

00:13:08.000 And what does that mean?

00:13:10.000 Obviously, we all understand what that means.

00:13:12.000 It means that when you come for the king, you have to finish the job.

00:13:15.000 You cannot take half measures.

00:13:17.000 It's actually worse to take a half measure because if you come at the king and you miss, all you do is make the king mad.

00:13:25.000 And the king has an army and the king has power.

00:13:28.000 So if Trump, and when I say the king, of course, I'm not even referring to Trump.

00:13:32.000 I'm referring to this left-wing political system.

00:13:35.000 If Trump has been coming at the king for 10 years with the 16 campaign, with January 6th, with the revenge campaign in 24, if that is a 10-year campaign going after the king and he's missing over and over, failing to purge the bureaucracy, failing to implement Project 2025, failing to fire 50,000 employees, have the mass deportations.

00:13:59.000 If it's this slow, if it's so unambitious, if he's already compromising and walking back and people are having to come up with defenses for it, well, what are we doing?

00:14:08.000 All we're doing is pissing off the people that really run the world.

00:14:12.000 And if you miss, they get the next reply and they're going to come after all of us hard.

00:14:18.000 Trump, you, me, the supporters, the people in the administration.

00:14:23.000 We learned that the hard way after January 6th.

00:14:26.000 You know, in a way, we kind of already did this in the first term.

00:14:28.000 Trump came at the king, was not equipped, did not have the personnel, did not have the expertise.

00:14:34.000 There's arguments about what went wrong, but needless to say, it didn't work.

00:14:37.000 And so they came back and it was revenge of the Sith.

00:14:40.000 It was Empire Strikes Back.

00:14:42.000 They came down hard with the vaccine mandate, with the DOJ on the J Sixers, with your law fair, with the law fair against Ricky Vaughn, against many people.

00:14:51.000 We came at the king.

00:14:52.000 We missed.

00:14:53.000 The king cracked down hard.

00:14:54.000 Here we are again.

00:14:56.000 And it feels like deja vu all over again.

00:14:58.000 We're coming at the king, coming at the establishment.

00:15:00.000 And people say, well, you know, what about immigration enforcement?

00:15:03.000 What about these other good things that are happening?

00:15:05.000 I would argue we're six months in.

00:15:06.000 I don't know anybody that's satisfied.

00:15:08.000 Now, people may be defending Trump and saying, hey, the best is yet to come.

00:15:12.000 We passed the big beautiful bill.

00:15:13.000 We got the funding.

00:15:15.000 And now in the next six months, we'll wrap up deportations.

00:15:18.000 In the second half of the term, that's when things are really going to get underway.

00:15:22.000 He's only six months in.

00:15:24.000 I would argue if we didn't hit the ground running, if we don't come at it with seriousness and guns blazing, if we're playing catch up six months in, a year out of the midterms, it's not going to happen.

00:15:35.000 They will delay.

00:15:36.000 They will procrastinate.

00:15:37.000 They will sabotage.

00:15:38.000 They'll throw up roadblocks like they did before.

00:15:40.000 And what's going to happen is when we run out the clock at the end of this term, it's going to be the same thing, except the left is going to come back even harder and even more severe.

00:15:49.000 And I question then, what good were the half measures if all they did was invite this reprisal?

00:15:54.000 So that's why I really am an extreme skeptic.

00:15:58.000 I know you're skeptical too.

00:16:00.000 I've watched your show and we did hype it up and I said, I'm going to confront you.

00:16:04.000 But if you watch your show, you've been critical and you've talked about the Israeli element.

00:16:08.000 No one can say you haven't been honest if they watch your show.

00:16:11.000 I know you're a critic and a skeptic as well.

00:16:14.000 I'm probably more skeptical and have been far more critical.

00:16:18.000 We both want the truth, but I think we're both kind of mapping out Trump has put both of us in a predicament and the whole country.

00:16:24.000 How do we now get out of it?

00:16:26.000 That's really the question.

00:16:27.000 So that's kind of where I'm at.

00:16:29.000 And for the purpose of this debate or conversation, we can dispense with the rhetoric and just speak in practical terms.

00:16:34.000 Where do we go from here?

00:16:36.000 Because like you said, we're very short on answers and it's left us with a lot of questions.

00:16:41.000 So that's where we're at.

00:16:42.000 That's a powerful 10 minutes, Nick.

00:16:43.000 And I agree with everything you said.

00:16:45.000 So I'm in full heart.

00:16:47.000 They will indict me for sure if they get back in.

00:16:50.000 I want Trump to be successful.

00:16:52.000 And then I watched him 24 days ago literally come out and say through that memo, don't investigate.

00:17:00.000 He killed himself.

00:17:01.000 It wasn't even trafficking.

00:17:02.000 There was his co-conspirators in jail for it.

00:17:06.000 And then they said, I got attacked by all the MAGA influencers saying you're a traitor.

00:17:11.000 And then Trump comes two days later.

00:17:13.000 Yeah, I'm behind it.

00:17:13.000 Shut it down.

00:17:15.000 So I'm in full horror mode.

00:17:17.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:17:18.000 So I'm not going to spend 10 minutes countering back here.

00:17:21.000 I really want to hear what you have to say.

00:17:25.000 How could Trump, even he was raping kids, which you said, there's no evidence of that.

00:17:31.000 It's obviously the CIA Masadis made a deal.

00:17:33.000 That's what I've been told by the White House.

00:17:34.000 They're like, hey, we got to make a deal with National Security.

00:17:36.000 I'm just telling you, folks, that's what it is.

00:17:39.000 At least that's what they told me.

00:17:40.000 That makes sense.

00:17:41.000 Why then would they bring attention to it and behave like this?

00:17:46.000 Well, he's 79.

00:17:48.000 He has been in nine years basically as the president.

00:17:52.000 I couldn't handle this at 51.

00:17:54.000 And the truth is, is that Trump doesn't give up.

00:17:59.000 He doesn't break down, but he cracks up.

00:18:02.000 And from my sources, and I don't say this meanly, folks, I just can't lie to the audience.

00:18:10.000 He can't handle the pressure.

00:18:12.000 And instead of having, you know, Democrat operatives at his White House, he now has Israelis. 1.00

00:18:20.000 And look, I'm the guy that always said China's the main issue, the EU, the globalist, BlackRock.

00:18:26.000 Because Israel controlled our foreign policy Middle East, but they weren't from all my research the dominant groups.

00:18:31.000 I was just said what I knew.

00:18:33.000 But now in this power vacuum, Israel is bragging in their newspapers that they're the superpower. 0.91

00:18:40.000 They control Trump.

00:18:41.000 Well, how do they control Trump?

00:18:43.000 And we know Epstein is Mossad, Maxwell's dad, all of them.

00:18:49.000 And from the best intel I have, Trump shut this down for that.

00:18:53.000 And now he's pissed because the Democrats turned around, even though Trump made a deal and are bringing it up.

00:19:00.000 And that's what he's doing.

00:19:01.000 And he's walked into a trap.

00:19:02.000 So now he's trying to kind of extricate.

00:19:04.000 So it's a nightmare.

00:19:05.000 And so listen, my listeners want me to go on Trump.

00:19:09.000 I don't do what my listeners want.

00:19:11.000 I do what I think's best.

00:19:13.000 But at this point, I don't even know what to do because my enemies want to put me in prison.

00:19:18.000 And we know they're child molesters and let the border open.

00:19:22.000 We know they're bad.

00:19:23.000 And then now Trump's this big thing.

00:19:25.000 And all I can say is Trump rode in on the populist wave and populist winning everywhere.

00:19:30.000 So we should not put all our eggs in his basket.

00:19:32.000 But I'm also trying to decide: okay, do I want the Democrats to win the House?

00:19:38.000 Trump needs to indict them for crossfire hurricane.

00:19:41.000 He needs to release the Epstein files.

00:19:43.000 He needs to stop listening to the CIA or he's doomed.

00:19:47.000 I mean, I think that is clear to me that like you said, you don't shoot at the king once and miss and then barely survive.

00:19:56.000 He's gotten a second shot and we've got to take them down.

00:20:01.000 He's got to do that.

00:20:02.000 And so I think it's existential.

00:20:04.000 If Trump doesn't go to full war and actually do something, then by extension, he's giving it to the bad guys.

00:20:13.000 And so I think really, at the end of the day, it's all about action because America will forgive him for whatever this is if he backs away from it and indicts them for other things they've done that are cut and dry.

00:20:23.000 But if they don't, but that's a whole other discussion, Nick.

00:20:27.000 Let's talk about what Trump should do, but also what is the way out of this?

00:20:31.000 Because I'm like pissed at Trump.

00:20:33.000 And then I look over there and I'm like, literal shark take of piranha is ready to eat me in the country.

00:20:40.000 And I am, I'm actually gearing the headlights at this point because I'm just like, I mean, this is a nightmare scenario.

00:20:52.000 I mean, we feel stuck.

00:20:52.000 I agree.

00:20:54.000 I don't feel stuck because I, you know, a year ago, I was saying that we would sort of end up in a similar predicament.

00:21:00.000 And no, man, let me stop being on you in 10 minutes.

00:21:02.000 I said that before you came on.

00:21:03.000 I said, listen, I have guests on that are consistently right.

00:21:07.000 You disagree with overall your views or whatever, but you've been dead on.

00:21:10.000 So my North Star is who's the most accurate?

00:21:13.000 That's what I have on.

00:21:14.000 So you did predict all this, which makes me physically ill.

00:21:19.000 So what look at the crystal ball, Nick Fuentez.

00:21:23.000 What is going to happen?

00:21:24.000 And then what do we do?

00:21:26.000 It's hard to say what is going to happen next because, you know, I was going to say, we are in a way stuck.

00:21:32.000 We are stuck with Trump for the next four years.

00:21:34.000 And when I say stuck, I mean, whether you think it's good or bad, he's the president and he's in this incontestable position.

00:21:42.000 That was sort of the aspect of it that was very concerning to me, which is that if you have Kamala Harris, she has no legitimacy.

00:21:49.000 So a lot of people like to think, well, if Kamala won, what would that have looked like?

00:21:54.000 Obviously, it would not have been as good.

00:21:55.000 The economy wouldn't be as good.

00:21:56.000 The border wouldn't have been as good.

00:21:59.000 And that's obvious.

00:22:00.000 But what was less concerning to me about Kamala against all of that is that she was a lot less stable. 0.96

00:22:06.000 And not by that, I don't mean mentally.

00:22:08.000 I mean that she had no legitimacy as a ruler because she didn't win the Democrat primary fair and square and never did. 1.00

00:22:15.000 She didn't, nobody would believe she won the general election. 0.99

00:22:18.000 If she won, no one would accept that that was a fair and square deal.

00:22:22.000 And so the regime would have been a lot less stable and would have had a lot less leeway.

00:22:26.000 What I fear with Trump is that he has this cult-like status within the GOP.

00:22:31.000 And when you look at the approval ratings over the past month, he has been declining with independents.

00:22:37.000 He's hit a low with Democrats as always.

00:22:40.000 But his approval with Republicans has been remarkably stable.

00:22:43.000 It's been stabilized at just under 90% approval, even in spite of everything, in spite of bombing Iran, in spite of floating the amnesty deal, in spite of the Epstein files. 0.60

00:22:54.000 And so you say to yourself, where do we go from here?

00:22:57.000 What do we do next?

00:22:58.000 We're in this sort of intractable position where there's nothing we can do because he's there and no one can challenge him.

00:23:05.000 He steamrolled Congress to get the BBB.

00:23:07.000 He steamrolled many of the people in the primary throughout this whole process.

00:23:12.000 And so you say, if Trump is failing us, if he's failing as a guy, and I agree with you, there's some sympathy with it.

00:23:19.000 You don't say it to be mean.

00:23:20.000 You don't say it even necessarily to be critical, but just descriptively, this is an old man.

00:23:26.000 He has been fighting for a long time.

00:23:28.000 He is tired.

00:23:28.000 And you can see that he can't handle it.

00:23:30.000 You can see that it is a crackup, that he cannot handle these questions.

00:23:35.000 And you watch these press conferences, these interviews.

00:23:37.000 It's extraordinary the way he keeps digging, the way he gets asked about it and puts his foot in his mouth with this sort of, oh, well, we need to just stop thinking about that.

00:23:45.000 And it's a Democrat hoax.

00:23:47.000 And you say, how is it even possible that he's fumbling this hard?

00:23:51.000 So much so that people are saying maybe it's calculated because it is not possible to mess it up this bad.

00:23:56.000 He's failing.

00:23:57.000 He's cracking up.

00:24:01.000 Saying, oh, he's going to make Democrats release the file.

00:24:03.000 He's in control of it, dumbasses.

00:24:07.000 Exactly.

00:24:07.000 He appointed the attorney general.

00:24:09.000 It's under his purview.

00:24:10.000 He could release it if he wants to.

00:24:12.000 Pam Bonnie could do it.

00:24:13.000 Trump could tell her to do it.

00:24:15.000 And so he's in this position.

00:24:17.000 He's clearly not well.

00:24:19.000 And you could speculate about his health or something like that.

00:24:22.000 But just suffice to say, he's not handling this well.

00:24:24.000 But he also is immovable.

00:24:26.000 And what's more is, and we talked about this the last time, there's this exuberance.

00:24:31.000 And that really scared me when he came into office.

00:24:34.000 And by scared, I don't want to sound like a resistance liberal or something, you know, but a year ago, I was concerned about this Trojan horse thing.

00:24:41.000 He's going to take all the Republicans with him.

00:24:43.000 Anything he'll do will have his imprimatur of credibility.

00:24:46.000 90% of Republicans will support it no matter what.

00:24:50.000 But then he gets into office, then he wins the election.

00:24:53.000 And you see a Trump that is unchained, where he's like, we're going to take Canada.

00:24:57.000 We're going to take Greenland.

00:24:58.000 We're going to take Panama. 1.00

00:24:59.000 We're going to go to war with Russia. 0.93

00:25:00.000 We're going to go to war with China. 0.91

00:25:02.000 And you're like, this is a guy that is not handling it well.

00:25:05.000 He's incontestable.

00:25:07.000 And he's totally exuberant, has this like God complex situation.

00:25:12.000 And so we're kind of strapped in for the next three years.

00:25:15.000 And, you know, I would say eight years ago, what I would have said, what is our course of action?

00:25:20.000 I would have said, we have to fight for the personnel.

00:25:24.000 We got to get a new chief of staff.

00:25:26.000 We got to get Susie Wiles out. 0.64

00:25:28.000 We got to get control of the White House, wrest control of it from the bad personnel, get the good advisors in.

00:25:35.000 But we did that already.

00:25:36.000 And even now, I don't think it's possible.

00:25:39.000 I think that this is just how it's been the entire time.

00:25:42.000 And, you know, Trump, if he knows, he knows how to get in touch with you.

00:25:45.000 He knows how to get in touch with all these people that are critical.

00:25:48.000 He won't do it.

00:25:49.000 You know, and by the way, the people that are at the FBI, it's Cash Patel, it's Dan Bongino, it's Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., Elon Musk was on The team.

00:26:00.000 So you would say, who would he call to get him out of the mess?

00:26:04.000 Who would be the dream team personnel that could steer the ship away from the rocks?

00:26:09.000 Well, they're already kind of there.

00:26:11.000 I mean, what could we have better?

00:26:13.000 You know, if we're thinking about MAGA personnel that you could plug in that could solve the problem that represents the base, could you do much better than Cash Patel and Dan Bongino?

00:26:22.000 Could you do much better than Vivek?

00:26:25.000 And not to say that these are the best people ever, but these are pretty MAGA people.

00:26:29.000 These are pretty outside the system people to bring in.

00:26:32.000 And so you wonder if they can.

00:26:35.000 And I'm going to like, I just have to say this.

00:26:37.000 I got a bunch of calls the last three weeks.

00:26:41.000 And the calls go like this.

00:26:42.000 What do you want?

00:26:45.000 And I've never asked for anything.

00:26:46.000 What I want is good policy.

00:26:48.000 I always want to be the outsider.

00:26:50.000 And I'm just like, what do I, what do I want?

00:26:54.000 I want make America great again.

00:26:56.000 I want America first.

00:26:58.000 So there's a real understanding in this administration that we're it.

00:27:02.000 We're in charge.

00:27:03.000 This is the way it is.

00:27:05.000 And the fact that I get these calls like the top of the administration and they're just cutting dry.

00:27:13.000 What do you want?

00:27:15.000 And I'm just like, uh-huh.

00:27:19.000 And again, the horror of Hakeem Jeffries and Pocahontas is right there. 1.00

00:27:24.000 And that's why I'm in this paradox where I'm like, whoa.

00:27:28.000 And so I mean, I feel disaster.

00:27:35.000 I'm going to be honest with the viewers.

00:27:36.000 I have nothing I can do, but to tell the truth.

00:27:39.000 I am just in a nightmare because the Democrats are pure satanic scum.

00:27:45.000 We know who they are.

00:27:46.000 And you've got all this delusions of grandeur.

00:27:49.000 People that know Trump well say it's beyond megalomania.

00:27:52.000 He does not care.

00:27:54.000 He does whatever he wants, which is good to not care about Democrats.

00:27:58.000 He doesn't even respond to their attacks anymore because he literally doesn't care and thinks he's invincible.

00:28:06.000 And now he's negotiating with Russia and China and North Korea and Iran.

00:28:12.000 And just a week ago had a meeting with Zelensky and said, maybe we'll give you heavy bombs to bomb Moscow.

00:28:20.000 And now they may overthrow Zelensky.

00:28:22.000 So you get this idea that it's like this swirling crazy town.

00:28:27.000 And you have last week, the CI director at that meeting they had, the cabinet meeting, and Ratcliffe literally leans back and goes, like demoning out in the meeting.

00:28:43.000 And I'm just like, I'm like literally looking at places to run to in the southern hemisphere for nuclear war. 0.52

00:28:49.000 And I'm not the type of guy that runs.

00:28:51.000 My instincts are run, run, run.

00:28:56.000 And the Democrats want to defeat Trump and the Democrats want to rape our kids. 0.89

00:28:59.000 And I know they're bad.

00:29:00.000 And then you got all this crazy Trump delusion.

00:29:03.000 And I smell death.

00:29:07.000 And so Europe and Chicago, I'm in Austin, big cities.

00:29:13.000 This is real world stuff.

00:29:15.000 So at this point, I just want listeners of yours to know.

00:29:20.000 Let me ask you this to comment to just the Armageddon flavor of this, but then the larger issue is, is there any way to extricate Trump?

00:29:30.000 Is there any path, in your view, out of this?

00:29:32.000 Or what do we do?

00:29:35.000 Because obviously the behavior of the last three weeks on Epstein is not trillion DHS.

00:29:45.000 It is flailing anger or it's covering something up.

00:29:49.000 I mean, this is just, you can't lie about what this is, which I've been saying, I don't know what it is.

00:29:57.000 I think it's over.

00:29:59.000 I think it's over for him.

00:30:00.000 And look, he's going to be the president for the next few years and he will deliver some tangible benefits.

00:30:07.000 It's not all bad from a policy point of view.

00:30:10.000 He has closed the border and maybe there can be some effort that's being made on debanking and free speech.

00:30:16.000 I would say that is one of the great net positives, even though he didn't even really deliver that.

00:30:21.000 I would argue that was more Elon Musk.

00:30:23.000 Actually, with Trump, it's the reverse.

00:30:25.000 They're going to bring back TikTok, but now there's going to be censorship.

00:30:28.000 And I don't know if you saw, but they just negotiated this deal where they're going to have a new footnotes feature on TikTok where it's like a fact check.

00:30:35.000 It's like the fake news thing that Facebook did.

00:30:37.000 So, you know, there may be some more leeway in terms of free speech.

00:30:42.000 I've heard there might be some better regulations for debanking.

00:30:45.000 That might go away.

00:30:46.000 This reputational harm might be eliminated as a consideration from the Federal Reserve for banks.

00:30:52.000 There will be good trade deals.

00:30:54.000 I think some of the trade deals, like with the European Union, like with these Asian countries, there will be some tangible benefits.

00:31:00.000 With that being said, Trump is still a lame duck.

00:31:04.000 He is a lame duck president.

00:31:06.000 And many of the aspects of this presidency, they're just not living up to what needs to happen.

00:31:10.000 And there's no future for him politically.

00:31:12.000 I don't even think if he was eligible to run, we would want to vote for him yet another time in 2028.

00:31:18.000 So like I said last year, I think what the MAGA base has to do is sort of recognize we still need to use what we can get out of this.

00:31:25.000 You know, maybe we could have people work in the White House.

00:31:28.000 There's many Groipers that are in this administration that are building their resumes. 1.00

00:31:32.000 That's a good thing.

00:31:33.000 People should still be doing that.

00:31:34.000 And there are people like you and I that are benefiting from the free speech renaissance on Rumble, on X. We will benefit from that and from the debanking regulations.

00:31:44.000 But separately, at the same time, we have to start to imagine, to your point, that question, what do you want?

00:31:51.000 What do we want after Trump?

00:31:53.000 Because when he leaves office and most likely pardons himself, you and I will still be here picking up the pieces.

00:32:00.000 And even to the extent that we criticize Trump or have criticized Trump, it will make no difference when the left persecutes us.

00:32:07.000 So even though I didn't vote for him, even though you've been fair and objective and critical, it will make no difference when the Democrats come in and clap back on all of us, on the entire right wing, and we will not get a presidential pardon.

00:32:19.000 So we'll be sweeping up after him one way or the other.

00:32:22.000 We have to start to think, what is our lives?

00:32:24.000 What is our political movement?

00:32:26.000 What is MAGA, the populist America first movement?

00:32:29.000 What will it be when Trump sunsets?

00:32:32.000 And I think he's already in a meaningful way sunsetted.

00:32:35.000 There's just nothing new there.

00:32:36.000 It's not dynamic.

00:32:37.000 It's not progressive.

00:32:38.000 It's not forward thinking.

00:32:40.000 It's just sort of static and waiting to be resolved, waiting for him to exit stage left.

00:32:45.000 We have to start to think in 2028: what is the next phase?

00:32:49.000 What is the next booster rocket after Trump decouples?

00:32:52.000 What will that be?

00:32:53.000 So let's speak to that.

00:32:54.000 What is the next phase?

00:32:55.000 Because Trump did not defend free speech when I got taken off and you got taken off everything.

00:33:01.000 Elon, because I only give credit worth Stu, he is the champion of that.

00:33:05.000 They ran him off.

00:33:06.000 Susie Wallace didn't like him.

00:33:08.000 But we're all living under that umbrella.

00:33:12.000 Trump wouldn't have gotten in without Elon, in my view.

00:33:15.000 What is your view on that?

00:33:17.000 And so what is the Elon wild card there?

00:33:21.000 Well, what is interesting about Elon is introducing this America Party.

00:33:25.000 I'm actually interested to see where that goes.

00:33:28.000 And what the outcome of that is will tell us a lot about that dynamics in 2028, because clearly both parties are breaking up.

00:33:34.000 I actually think maybe Trumpism having this spectacular crash out or someone argues maybe dying with a whimper.

00:33:42.000 I think that it's a good thing because you see that both the right and the left, 10 years after Trumpism, are disintegrating.

00:33:49.000 The left does not know where to go.

00:33:51.000 And there is this big battle going on right now in the left between the radical progressives and the liberal establishmentarians.

00:33:59.000 Yeah, let's be careful.

00:34:00.000 The left has the lowest approval rating in their history, no fundraising.

00:34:04.000 They're flatlined.

00:34:05.000 And then Trump commits political suicide saying, don't look at Epstein.

00:34:09.000 I mean, it's just, it's insane.

00:34:12.000 But I don't think that's a bad thing because the left has been disintegrated by Trump.

00:34:17.000 Trump has utterly defeated them.

00:34:18.000 It's sort of like the Soviet Union, like Trump matching them and just being tough and outlasting them. 0.92

00:34:25.000 They have sort of killed themselves with wokeism, with the purity spiral, with the inherent contradictions.

00:34:30.000 They are disintegrated.

00:34:32.000 They are just not an effective operation right now.

00:34:35.000 You see this with like Corey Booker giving this ridiculous speech.

00:34:38.000 Like that's their guy.

00:34:39.000 Bernie Sanders seems to be the only one with the doctrine.

00:34:42.000 He's 90 years old.

00:34:44.000 Zoron Mamdani wants to do socialism.

00:34:47.000 It's not working.

00:34:48.000 But now the right is also disintegrating due to the contradictions of Trumpism.

00:34:53.000 So it's like Trump has killed the left.

00:34:55.000 He's also now killing the right, such that on the left, you have this progressive liberal split.

00:35:01.000 On the right, you have a split now with the Silicon Valley people hopping off, the anti-war people hopping off, the Q conspiracy people hopping off.

00:35:10.000 Like the whole thing's coming apart.

00:35:11.000 And now that Elon is talking about a third party, an America party that's based on center-right common sense policy, it's going to be free speech, H-1Bs, this sort of thing. 0.92

00:35:22.000 It's creating an opening.

00:35:24.000 The first act, you know, according to the Kabbalists in creation, they say, is to create an opening.

00:35:30.000 I'm not a Kabbalist, by the way, but this is what they say.

00:35:33.000 They say the first act is to create an opening, a container.

00:35:36.000 And I was such a believer that Trump needed to lose for that to happen.

00:35:40.000 Maybe he needed to win for that to happen.

00:35:43.000 But now that Trump is sort of crashing and burning, new options are coming forward.

00:35:47.000 Powerful people like Elon and Tucker are articulating alternative pathways forward.

00:35:52.000 There is now just like for the first time, a wide open playing field.

00:35:56.000 In 16, it was like Clinton and Bush.

00:35:59.000 Those were your options.

00:36:00.000 Trump scattered the ashes of the Bush dynasty, defeated the Clintons, defeated the Obamas, defeated the Bidens.

00:36:07.000 Now it's just like a wide open playing field after all this.

00:36:10.000 And this is where we can really begin to create.

00:36:14.000 Definitely the spell of Israel lobby being able to do whatever they want and say us to shut up.

00:36:20.000 That's over.

00:36:21.000 And all the other spells are broken right now.

00:36:24.000 And so is there any way for Trump to resurrect himself and pull out of this?

00:36:32.000 I don't think so.

00:36:33.000 But I think that even if he did, look, people will eventually move on.

00:36:38.000 You know how it goes.

00:36:38.000 You've been doing this for longer than I have, as long as I've been alive.

00:36:42.000 And you know how it goes, especially now more than ever.

00:36:44.000 A story is in the news for a week and then people forget.

00:36:48.000 Now, this is going to leave a mark.

00:36:50.000 This is going to have lasting damage.

00:36:51.000 But just like everything else in a few months, people will forget.

00:36:55.000 And that's optimistic.

00:36:56.000 I mean, maybe they'll be.

00:36:57.000 There's a fundamental miscalculation.

00:36:59.000 I don't want to be mean to Trump, but his advisors, people very close to him, have told me last year, they go, it's beyond megalomania.

00:37:06.000 He literally thinks he's invincible and he's delusional now.

00:37:12.000 And I'm being honest with viewers right now.

00:37:15.000 And they're very concerned.

00:37:16.000 And now you see it.

00:37:17.000 The fact that he thought they could put a memo out, which he wrote, which he had written, which I told people day one, they said, oh, you're a traitor.

00:37:23.000 No, it's Pamboni.

00:37:24.000 No, it was him.

00:37:25.000 He admitted it later.

00:37:26.000 To say he killed himself.

00:37:29.000 He acted alone.

00:37:30.000 There was no human trafficking.

00:37:31.000 There are no files.

00:37:34.000 It is suicidal politically, but it came out of his grandiose, extreme arrogance.

00:37:41.000 And I get under pressure, this is what he turned into because how could you deal this pressure and not stop?

00:37:48.000 So, you know, Nick, it's very paradoxical.

00:37:52.000 And every time I sit there and look at this horror, I then look at Hakeem Jeffries and Pocahontas and AOC and Elon Omar.

00:38:02.000 And I just go, okay, I'm happy to cut Trump loose.

00:38:06.000 My listeners want me to.

00:38:08.000 And it feels good.

00:38:10.000 But then I go, what is the second order response when I look at World War Z zombie army?

00:38:17.000 And that's where I like hit a brick wall.

00:38:19.000 I'm just like, oh my God.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, I think that I don't think that's the worst case scenario, to tell you the truth.

00:38:28.000 I know that people don't want to see Trump go down because they worry about the left and things like that.

00:38:34.000 But I think the worst case scenario is that Trump, at the end of the day, was never around.

00:38:38.000 Actually, Trump putting us to sleep is the problem.

00:38:41.000 Exactly.

00:38:42.000 I think complacency, I think Trump rolling us back into the system.

00:38:46.000 I mean, one thing that people never mention is with Trump winning in 24, nobody's talking about the rigged elections anymore.

00:38:53.000 You notice that?

00:38:54.000 Like Trump won in 24.

00:38:56.000 And now people say, and there's polling on this.

00:38:59.000 They say, we believe the elections are free and fair, and it's all legit.

00:39:03.000 Now, with these new advertisements, the American Eagle, the Dunkin' Donuts, people say, oh, the advertisements are great again.

00:39:10.000 People are being rolled right back into the system, supporting more Middle East wars, supporting more skilled skilled immigrants.

00:39:17.000 They push, they push.

00:39:18.000 And when it fails, they flip right back to put us to sleep.

00:39:21.000 Oh, we're in 1985.

00:39:23.000 Everything's fine.

00:39:24.000 They play both sides.

00:39:26.000 When the left is losing cachet, they flip to the right.

00:39:28.000 And people say, we won.

00:39:30.000 The revolution succeeded.

00:39:31.000 So I think, yeah, I mean, you said it succinctly.

00:39:34.000 Trump lulling us to sleep, the complacency to me, that was always the real threat.

00:39:38.000 With Trump disintegrating, it's actually presenting a real opportunity, especially in the way that he's disintegrating.

00:39:44.000 So wait, are you an accelerationist or what are you saying?

00:39:47.000 I don't know that I'm an accelerationist.

00:39:49.000 I'm not rooting for the country to break apart, but I do believe that Trump occupying this seat is holding back something more right-wing.

00:39:59.000 I think that Trump is, I'm maybe a political accelerationist.

00:40:02.000 And what I mean by that is I don't want the worst case scenario to happen for America to collapse.

00:40:08.000 So that then I'm not an accelerationist in that way.

00:40:12.000 But in terms of the GOP, you want to wake up, though.

00:40:15.000 You want to have the wake-up call.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, I think the controlled opposition needs to be defeated.

00:40:20.000 We need to accelerate the political controlled opposition.

00:40:24.000 So let's look at it this way.

00:40:25.000 Why do they want you off the air?

00:40:27.000 Let's just say it.

00:40:27.000 The NEL runs it.

00:40:30.000 Let's see it.

00:40:31.000 What are they scared about?

00:40:33.000 We're not trying to bring ourselves into this, folks.

00:40:35.000 We're not Hunter S. Thompson, but it's true.

00:40:38.000 Why do they want you off the air?

00:40:40.000 Why do they want me off the air?

00:40:41.000 What are we doing that the power structure fears?

00:40:45.000 Well, what they don't like about you is that you are an independent media outlet.

00:40:49.000 You have too big of a studio, too big of an operation, too big of an audience.

00:40:53.000 They want to control that.

00:40:54.000 I think with me, I never had an operation as big as yours.

00:40:59.000 We get into it at different times and different circumstances and things like that.

00:41:03.000 I think what they fear about me, and I've seen it even on TikTok the other day, there was like this liberal kid and he goes, the left is not talking about the rise of Nick Fuentes and that's a problem.

00:41:13.000 The left is starting to like Nick Fuentes because he criticizes Trump.

00:41:17.000 And I hate saying my own name.

00:41:18.000 I think it sounds like narcissistic.

00:41:19.000 But what they fear about me is that what I am proposing is a novel and truly reactionary alternative to what we get even from the GOP.

00:41:31.000 You know, in 16, they used to say, and maybe you remember this, but in 15 and 16, they would say they hated Ted Cruz more than Trump because they said Ted Cruz was a true believer.

00:41:42.000 He's a true radical, a true.

00:41:44.000 Now, I don't think that's true, but there is this premise that they never feared Trump as much because they recognized that Trump was a deal maker, would make concessions.

00:41:53.000 They recognized that Trump was not an ideologue.

00:41:55.000 He really was a demagogue the whole time by definition.

00:41:58.000 Whereas me, my movement, being very young, being very fanatical and being very radical, we do represent a threat in the sense that when all of these fake ideologies disintegrate, what is going to be the strongest ship?

00:42:13.000 What is going to be the Noah's Ark?

00:42:16.000 Well, that's a viable thing.

00:42:17.000 That's why the NSA and Diamonds and Leaks, they fear anybody.

00:42:20.000 They don't control if you get a group together.

00:42:23.000 So they feel leaders.

00:42:25.000 Period.

00:42:25.000 So let me ask you this.

00:42:28.000 What is your prediction?

00:42:29.000 I know it's all dead reckoning for Trump.

00:42:33.000 What is the best scenario?

00:42:35.000 What would you do to try to, because he's here for three and a half years, what is the best path out of this?

00:42:46.000 What do you think the Democrats are going to try?

00:42:49.000 Trump's trying to stop these wars.

00:42:51.000 That's a good thing overall.

00:42:52.000 He's doing a lot of great stuff on trade.

00:42:54.000 I mean, I don't want to, like, you know, the cliche, baby, out with the bathwater, but it's great to go, okay, Trump's got problems.

00:43:01.000 And that's a whole other subject.

00:43:03.000 I want to ask you, why is he covering up the Epstein thing?

00:43:06.000 Because I've never seen any real evidence there.

00:43:08.000 I've been all over this.

00:43:09.000 So that's a whole other discussion.

00:43:11.000 It's just, it's, he must have made a deal with Israel.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, I think there's maybe two very likely possibilities.

00:43:19.000 And of course, there's many others.

00:43:20.000 But to me, these are the standouts.

00:43:22.000 One is that he wanted to avoid embarrassment.

00:43:25.000 I think that he knew his name was in there.

00:43:27.000 And his name was in the files in 2019.

00:43:29.000 We just know this.

00:43:30.000 There's videos and photos.

00:43:32.000 And he was friends with Epstein for many years.

00:43:35.000 And so he knew if there was a big disclosure, he'd be named all over it.

00:43:39.000 Maybe we'd learn something.

00:43:40.000 Maybe we'd learn nothing, but it would be a big shitstorm for him politically.

00:43:44.000 And so I think that one possibility is it was just a big misstep.

00:43:48.000 He did it to avoid embarrassment.

00:43:50.000 I think that's possible.

00:43:51.000 The other distinct possibility, which I think is very likely, is like you said, there was a deal with Israel that his allies would be hurt by this.

00:43:59.000 Maybe people like Peter Thiel, people like Netanyahu.

00:44:02.000 Maybe there's unknown people, people yet undisclosed in the files.

00:44:07.000 It would be destabilizing for the political order.

00:44:10.000 And for the same reason, he didn't lock up Hillary Clinton.

00:44:13.000 It's sort of a handshake with the shadow government, with the deep state, with this international cabal, whether it's Israel or the CIA, really a difference without a distinction.

00:44:13.000 He's going to do this.

00:44:24.000 There was a handshake to just avoid pandemonium, to avoid a kind of Me Too level extinction event for a certain class of the elites.

00:44:33.000 It's the same reason it's telling Nancy Pelosi came out and said, we should not release the files.

00:44:39.000 Now, why would Nancy Pelosi and Trump agree on something like this?

00:44:43.000 It's probably because it's for the sake of political order or because they both have something to hide and they don't want to have the scandal.

00:44:50.000 So I think that those are the distinct possibilities.

00:44:53.000 Maybe it's a combination of the two.

00:44:54.000 I agree with you.

00:44:55.000 So now they're going to have hearings.

00:44:58.000 Even Johnson's going to use it against Trump because he's a weasel.

00:45:01.000 I'm not saying it's wrong to do it, but he's doing it for weasel purposes. 0.99

00:45:05.000 What is your prediction on this?

00:45:07.000 Because my prediction, as I said 24 days ago, is this has doom written all over it.

00:45:13.000 They are going to go all the way to the wall with this.

00:45:16.000 And if Trump doesn't release all the Epstein files and go after the deep state for Crossfire Hurricane, I want your take on that too.

00:45:24.000 And all this talk about treason charges and things, then he's doomed because whoever convinced him or himself to sign on to the Epstein cover-up, he has now become everything he claimed he was against.

00:45:38.000 I mean, he did that.

00:45:39.000 And my listeners get mad that I'm not like covering it up.

00:45:44.000 I can't do that.

00:45:46.000 And some then take us out of context when I work at it and go, oh, you're covering it up.

00:45:48.000 No, I'm covering every angle.

00:45:50.000 I mean, this is the disaster.

00:45:52.000 So, so, Nick, there's a lot of questions there.

00:45:55.000 Why do you think he covered it up?

00:45:56.000 What do you think is going to come out?

00:45:58.000 How the Democrats think they can only limitedly expose him when they're heavily involved?

00:46:03.000 Where do you see that going?

00:46:05.000 I agree.

00:46:06.000 I think they're going to keep pushing it, you know, because this is the first scandal that's really hurt Trump.

00:46:10.000 All the other stuff nobody really believed, the Russia gate, the Stormy Daniels.

00:46:14.000 For the most part, that never left a mark because there was this assumption among the base that, look, the left is going to lie about Trump.

00:46:22.000 They're going to try everything.

00:46:23.000 They're throwing everything other than the kitchen sink and the rest of it.

00:46:27.000 But this is something that it's just unavoidable.

00:46:29.000 I mean, the Trump base, these people like Cash Patel, they played up the Epstein files for years.

00:46:34.000 It's so brazen.

00:46:36.000 So this is going to leave a mark.

00:46:37.000 And now that the left has found something that is so effective, super effective, they're just going to hit this all day long.

00:46:44.000 Now, fortunately for Trump, there's this summer recess for the Congress so they can punt this.

00:46:50.000 I don't know that that was even the best idea because when the Congress reconvenes, guess what they're going to do?

00:46:55.000 They're once again going to force the issue.

00:46:57.000 So we're going to pick up in September in the next legislative session on this.

00:47:02.000 And it's going to happen simultaneous with the General Assembly of the United Nations, where they're going to recognize Palestine.

00:47:09.000 It's going to happen simultaneous with the deadline for another Iran nuclear deal.

00:47:14.000 And this is going to happen as Congress comes back and they're going to force a vote on Thomas Massey and the Democrats' resolution to get all the files unsealed from the DOJ on Epstein.

00:47:24.000 And this is where, you know, I started to say this earlier.

00:47:28.000 The conventional wisdom would say he's going to pull out of this.

00:47:32.000 People will, they're going to stop paying attention to it.

00:47:34.000 They'll find something else.

00:47:35.000 I don't smell that.

00:47:36.000 I smell really bad.

00:47:38.000 Yeah.

00:47:39.000 And that's what I was about to say.

00:47:40.000 I think it just gets worse and worse.

00:47:42.000 I think, as you said, it's doom.

00:47:43.000 It's a dreadful feeling that it's just going to be one shoe to drop after the next.

00:47:48.000 It's like 50 shoes are going to drop after this.

00:47:51.000 And we're going to hurtle into the midterms and it's going to be an issue.

00:47:54.000 Then we're going to open up the Republican presidential primary and it's going to be an issue.

00:47:59.000 And they're going to be hitting this from here until the next election.

00:48:02.000 America First Populist salvage something.

00:48:07.000 Whether we abandon Trump or not, folks, this looks bad.

00:48:10.000 What do we do to continue our America First policy and extricate ourselves from this?

00:48:18.000 I think we need to use this as an opportunity.

00:48:21.000 I really believe we need to, this is an historic opportunity in the way that maybe even Trump wasn't to go further than Trump because Trump was able to go so far because people were so angry with what they were getting from both sides.

00:48:36.000 That's why people tolerated Trump.

00:48:38.000 That's why people were willing to go with Trump.

00:48:40.000 Now that Trump has even disappointed them and he was supposed to be the revolution, I feel like this is like momentum.

00:48:47.000 You know, some people look at this as dreadful.

00:48:49.000 I look at this as kind of like momentum.

00:48:52.000 This is an explosion of energy that can propel maybe something even more anti-establishment into the fore.

00:49:00.000 You know, when people like liberals were pointing out, Trump is losing with the younger demographic.

00:49:05.000 Trump's approval among the 18 to 25 is crashing out more than any other demo.

00:49:11.000 The old people don't care, but the young people are furious about this.

00:49:15.000 And the left said, oh, this is a rebel and this is the main issue.

00:49:19.000 And he thought he had the political cachet to say, shut up.

00:49:24.000 And a person with a 70 IQ would have known that was a disastrous move, which goes to the mental acuity of him and his advisors.

00:49:33.000 But in particular, with the young people, and I agree because he thought he could do it, but he didn't.

00:49:38.000 The young people are leaving and the left is telling us, oh, great. 0.99

00:49:42.000 Trump is losing the youth.

00:49:44.000 This is a great day for the left.

00:49:46.000 But Trump is losing the youth not because the youth are going to the left.

00:49:50.000 He's losing the youth because they're more right-wing than Trump.

00:49:54.000 Trump has created a generation of Nick Fuenteses and Grouper.

00:49:57.000 That's why that's right.

00:49:58.000 I saw you talk about this.

00:49:59.000 And I like Charlie Kirk.

00:50:00.000 I'm on his enemy.

00:50:01.000 And I think he's been brought along.

00:50:03.000 But they're literally having struggle sessions now.

00:50:06.000 When you've been banned from their events, I've been there when you get taken up by police.

00:50:10.000 The fact that they tried to ban you from the building only made you bigger.

00:50:14.000 Do a little short thing on that.

00:50:17.000 Sure.

00:50:17.000 Well, you know, last week they did this Turning Point struggle session on Israel.

00:50:22.000 And what I said on my show is that for many years, back in 2019, I came at Turning Point USA as a critic from the right.

00:50:31.000 Turning Point was considered the rightmost youth organization in the country.

00:50:35.000 And they were the gladiators against the left.

00:50:38.000 They were the most pro-Trump, the most right-wing.

00:50:40.000 Then here comes the Groipers that are saying, you're not right-wing enough on the social issues, on immigration, on identity, and in particular, on Israel. 0.95

00:50:50.000 And their first response back in 19 was to ban us.

00:50:54.000 They banned me from their events.

00:50:56.000 They kicked the Groipers out. 0.99

00:50:57.000 They fired the Groipers that were sympathetic in their organization, and they tried to ignore us. 0.94

00:51:02.000 They tried to purge us.

00:51:04.000 They tried to pretend we didn't exist.

00:51:06.000 Fast forward six years later, and their whole organization is filled with Groupers. 1.00

00:51:10.000 Their events are filled with Groipers. 1.00

00:51:13.000 The youth is about as right-wing as me.

00:51:15.000 Maybe they're even more right-wing than me, even.

00:51:18.000 And again, it's so charming.

00:51:20.000 They had literally an event with their people about this now.

00:51:24.000 That's right.

00:51:25.000 And last week, they had to hold this struggle session where they are very aware of this problem that at their events, they have people crying out for something that is truly America first, that is authentic, that's going to call out Israel. 0.83

00:51:38.000 And so they host this session where they're basically trying to mediate and they're sort of putting themselves in this position like they have power over the conversation.

00:51:48.000 The youth are already super far right.

00:51:50.000 They come in and say, we're going to mediate this transition to the far right as if they control that at all, as if they have any say.

00:51:58.000 And so they bring in all their Chapter leaders, they bring in some of the members of their organization, and they have this, what is supposed to be a focus group where they have an honest conversation about Israel.

00:52:10.000 And one by one, you know, Charlie Kirk says, when you say Israel, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

00:52:17.000 And one by one, the chapter leaders of Turning Point USA, the biggest right-wing campus group, they say the first word that comes to mind, Mossad, genocide, AIPAC, foreign lobbying, foreign wars, things that were unthinkable six years ago, things that almost nobody was talking about six, seven years ago, six, seven.

00:52:38.000 And Charlie Kirk is there basically trying to mediate this and say, well, you know, you don't hate Israel.

00:52:44.000 You just have some moderate criticisms.

00:52:46.000 Well, we still support Israel. 0.84

00:52:48.000 We still love Israel.

00:52:49.000 And we don't have any problems with Judaism, but you just have some narrow criticisms about it.

00:52:54.000 All the poll even shows Israel's the most unpopular thing.

00:52:57.000 Look, I'm glad Charlie Kirk's waking up people at colleges.

00:52:59.000 I don't want to be in anything with him.

00:53:00.000 The crew's playing funny videos.

00:53:03.000 The point is, is that you got exercise.

00:53:09.000 You got sent into oblivion.

00:53:12.000 You got sent to the Phantom Zone.

00:53:13.000 You got put into exile.

00:53:16.000 And there's no doubt, Nick, that your ideas and what you're saying are dominant within their own organization.

00:53:24.000 And this is just emblematic of everything right now.

00:53:29.000 And so where do you see this ending?

00:53:34.000 Well, I don't know the future because it's like you talked about earlier, you just don't know.

00:53:39.000 You don't know what's going on with Trump.

00:53:40.000 You don't know what's going to happen next when Congress comes back.

00:53:44.000 But if we play our cards right, the way that it should end is that we view Trump as a stepping stool.

00:53:50.000 You know, I don't believe that Trump, he was never the ends in itself.

00:53:54.000 The end was America first. 0.99

00:53:56.000 And we thought Trump was the leader to get us there.

00:53:58.000 Now, I don't think that Trump was all bad.

00:54:01.000 I'm not a Trump hater.

00:54:02.000 I think that he did a lot of good for the country, but he was never, in my opinion, he was always the first step.

00:54:08.000 He was always going to hand the baton to somebody else.

00:54:11.000 He was planting a seed.

00:54:12.000 He was destroying institutions.

00:54:14.000 He was kind of like a necessary first part of a long story.

00:54:19.000 And so if we play our cards right and are smart, what happens next is we decouple from Trump.

00:54:25.000 And like he did, we imagine what is the next step of this?

00:54:29.000 What do we want?

00:54:30.000 And we take the baton from Trump and from this administration and we take it forward in 2028.

00:54:36.000 We take it forward in 2032 and we look for a young avatar of this new movement that can run for office.

00:54:43.000 Maybe as a congressman.

00:54:45.000 Is there anybody out there?

00:54:48.000 I don't know anybody in particular.

00:54:50.000 People say Thomas Massey.

00:54:52.000 I don't think he'll be the guy.

00:54:54.000 Dan Bilzerian has talked about running for office.

00:54:56.000 Maybe it'll be somebody like him.

00:54:59.000 Maybe it's somebody we haven't heard of yet.

00:55:00.000 It could be somebody.

00:55:01.000 This is a big country.

00:55:03.000 It could be somebody that nobody even knows your name.

00:55:05.000 And I think all he knows is the fuck word.

00:55:09.000 He is a little, yeah, he's a little jocular, but you know, I would never overname him.

00:55:13.000 I'm not against him.

00:55:14.000 It's like, you know, dude, you got a vocabulary?

00:55:16.000 You know, it's like, I don't know.

00:55:19.000 But yeah, I know what you mean.

00:55:20.000 Hopefully, if he runs for office, maybe clean it up a little bit.

00:55:23.000 Certainly clean up the land website.

00:55:27.000 I might run for office at some point.

00:55:30.000 I think at this point in time, I see myself more as like a vanguard.

00:55:34.000 And I think I'm maybe more powerful, not in a campaign, because you get in a campaign and then they turn it into what you're doing.

00:55:39.000 No, I got it.

00:55:40.000 You're more like John the Baptist out there. 0.94

00:55:42.000 So we got some more time left.

00:55:44.000 I want to take a break and maybe we can open the phones up for like 20 minutes or something.

00:55:48.000 I'm not sure, but we called a debate because it is a debate.

00:55:52.000 And I saw the stuff he said.

00:55:53.000 And I get it.

00:55:53.000 You could take what I said out of context.

00:55:55.000 I am horrified.

00:55:58.000 I am just, I've never saw evidence of Trump with any kids.

00:56:03.000 They would have already used it.

00:56:04.000 We know, and I was told, I got the calls.

00:56:06.000 I already knew it.

00:56:08.000 It's the CIA.

00:56:09.000 It's the SAD, it's national security.

00:56:11.000 So then why did Trump act like that?

00:56:13.000 And I am just, I'm not going to sign on to that because I've never sold out to the Democrats.

00:56:19.000 They offer me all this money.

00:56:21.000 I'm not going to sell out now to a lie.

00:56:23.000 And you got Susie Wiles wants to keep fluoride in the water and mRNA shots. 1.00

00:56:27.000 They're trying to block Kennedy.

00:56:28.000 He fires their people.

00:56:31.000 But then I want to throw Trump out because I'm seeing a real struggle in his administration, which normally there's no struggle.

00:56:37.000 It's just lockstep.

00:56:39.000 So, you know, to me, this is really paradoxical.

00:56:43.000 And all I can do is just tell listeners what I'm seeing and say, this is what I'm seeing because something this complex, I don't have the answers to.

00:56:51.000 But, you know, we have to have a larger discussion about what are we going to do if Trump has a heart attack next week.

00:57:00.000 I mean, what would the Democrat, let me ask you this, Nick.

00:57:03.000 What would have happened last year in Butler if Trump got his head blown off?

00:57:08.000 What would have come out of that?

00:57:10.000 Well, I think that Nikki Haley would have taken the nomination, to tell you the truth, because Trump, you know, at Butler, he had not yet chosen a VP.

00:57:19.000 The only other person in the primary with any delegates was Nikki Haley. 0.99

00:57:23.000 There would have been an open convention at the RNC.

00:57:27.000 And of course, and the reason I say this is because, look, I mean, there would have been pandemonium.

00:57:30.000 I mean, there would have been who even knows, maybe riots, maybe violence, maybe something like this.

00:57:35.000 But without a doubt, there would be this unbelievable mandate that'd be like, get a Republican in and declare martial law.

00:57:42.000 But the question is, who would that fall to?

00:57:44.000 And I think it would have been like a Nikki Haley coup or like a Ron DeSantis coup.

00:57:48.000 They would have been crowned and propelled by the martyrdom of Trump.

00:57:52.000 They would have gotten into office and they would have everything that they're running the playbook right now, they would have done it with a vengeance.

00:57:58.000 The boomerang.

00:58:00.000 Yeah.

00:58:01.000 Well, and, you know, the right, in my opinion, is being empowered right now because of October 7th.

00:58:07.000 I think that, you know, when you look at all this anti-left wing action, it is propelled.

00:58:12.000 And maybe this is one-dimensional, but this is what I see.

00:58:14.000 It is being propelled by the Jewish oligarchy in America that is really, that got woken up by October 7th. 0.99

00:58:22.000 And that's why you got Bill Ackman saying Harvard is too woke and Sean McGuire is a Trump supporter.

00:58:28.000 Like they're driving this big right-wing tilt.

00:58:31.000 And it's because they want to crush anti-Semitism and they want to crush Palestine.

00:58:35.000 So the paradigm is it's been the main Jewish lobby funding the Islamic invasion because it's anti-Western, and now they suddenly wake up to it. 0.82

00:58:44.000 So let's go to break.

00:58:45.000 Let's come back and talk about that with Israel.

00:58:49.000 Because clearly, you can say Israel before was just trying to control our foreign policy. 0.74

00:58:53.000 They, with the Democrats in shambles, they're trying a takeover right now.

00:58:58.000 So play a few promos.

00:59:00.000 Let's come back to Nick Foynkez to get his take on that.

00:59:03.000 But this is the reality, folks.

00:59:05.000 This is where we are right now in the year 2025 on July 30th.

00:59:10.000 This is where we are.

00:59:12.000 And it's sad to say it's really scary.

00:59:17.000 And we can talk about where the Epstein thing is going to go or could Trump extricate himself from this.

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01:02:41.000 Yeah, he's losing a lot of weight.

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01:02:47.000 Alex looks good, man.

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01:02:51.000 Yeah.

01:02:52.000 He works out every day.

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01:03:00.000 Yeah, we can make that happen for sure.

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01:03:03.000 It's so noticeable.

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01:03:08.000 I know him.

01:03:09.000 He's just losing weight.

01:03:10.000 But if you go online, there's a lot of people that believe that this is like a different person.

01:03:14.000 He looks great.

01:03:15.000 That's all it is.

01:03:16.000 He looks great.

01:03:17.000 Here's your daily motivation.

01:03:18.000 Alex Jones is 51 years old.

01:03:21.000 He's been through more shit than you will ever go through.

01:03:25.000 The Deep State has come for his life.

01:03:27.000 They have come for his business.

01:03:28.000 They fined him billions of dollars for free speech.

01:03:32.000 Alex Jones has had his rights stripped away.

01:03:35.000 They've tried to take this man's life for speaking truth.

01:03:39.000 Alex Jones went from looking like this to looking now like this.

01:03:44.000 Alex Jones is getting ripped.

01:03:46.000 Alex Jones is getting yoked.

01:03:48.000 It's showing all of us that no matter our age, no matter what's thrown at us in life, no matter how many troubles or trials that we have, what really matters is who you are on the rock-ribbed inside.

01:04:00.000 Do you have gunpowder in your gut?

01:04:01.000 Do you have some grit in your teeth?

01:04:03.000 Can you be a man in the face of all of it?

01:04:06.000 Your promised struggles in this life, can you punch back?

01:04:09.000 Alex Jones is a motivation and a vibe today.

01:04:25.000 This little piggy went to market.

01:04:28.000 This little piggy stayed home. 0.54

01:04:30.000 This little piggy had roast beef.

01:04:33.000 This little piggy had none. 0.98

01:04:37.000 This little piggy went wee, wee wee wee wee wee wee all the way home. 0.99

01:04:42.000 And this little piggy burned down the new world order. 0.99

01:04:49.000 Let me see your war face, Schumer.

01:04:52.000 Let me see your war face, Obama.

01:04:55.000 Let me see your war face.

01:04:59.000 Because what you're seeing From Trump.

01:05:01.000 And what you're seeing from people all over the world is our war face.

01:05:05.000 And it's not just the face, it reflects the internal eruption.

01:05:13.000 So good luck.

01:05:14.000 But I commit myself into the hands of God.

01:05:18.000 And I pray on the altar of God that I be given the discernment and the will and the strength and the support to remove the chains from humanity.

01:05:30.000 So let's never forget the business that we are about and the time in which we live.

01:05:37.000 They want to break our will.

01:05:39.000 Don't just survive and persevere and not let them break your will.

01:05:43.000 Instead, take the weight of their assault and use it as a tool to strengthen every fiber of your psyche, your soul, and who you are.

01:05:55.000 And pledge with me, eternal resistance over every form of tyranny that has attacked the mind of man.

01:06:06.000 And pledge, as he pledged 250 years ago, the great architect of our republic, Thomas Jefferson, I have sworn on the altar of God, eternal resistance against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

01:06:23.000 Make that pledge and feel the universe open up.

01:06:27.000 Step into the space-time continuum and realize we're sharing that same moment with Thomas Jefferson now.

01:06:35.000 There is no past.

01:06:35.000 There is no present.

01:06:36.000 There is no future.

01:06:37.000 There is only one endless, timeless moment.

01:06:40.000 And absorb the void and you will be there staring back at God.

01:06:48.000 Well, I appreciate Nick Fuentez, really smart guy being with us tonight.

01:06:48.000 All right.

01:06:51.000 Nick Jay Fuentez on Rumble and on X. We're going to end this in about 30 minutes.

01:06:56.000 We're going to take a few calls right now.

01:06:58.000 Call it a debate.

01:07:00.000 I mean, it is a discussion.

01:07:02.000 I would say more of a wake.

01:07:04.000 And I don't want to agree with him totally that Trump's done.

01:07:07.000 I think there's some chance to extricate this.

01:07:09.000 But as I said, three plus weeks ago, before he even came out, this is Trump.

01:07:15.000 And going against what he promised to do, the Epstein thing, has created a wedge the Democrats are coming after.

01:07:24.000 Without looking at all the other issues and how he's so much better than them on others, and I want to keep the House, I want to keep the Senate.

01:07:32.000 And the Democrats are destroying themselves right now.

01:07:34.000 It's very paradoxical.

01:07:36.000 So the toll-free number to make your comment or question to Nick Fuentez or myself here tonight is 877-789-2539.

01:07:44.000 877-789.

01:07:46.000 Alex, 877-789-2539.

01:07:50.000 We'll just take five, six, seven calls, and then we'll let Nick get out of here.

01:07:53.000 But Nick, do you have any inkling in your political repertoire or vision of a path to Trump extricating himself?

01:08:08.000 Because it's not just the Epstein thing.

01:08:10.000 That's just emblematic.

01:08:11.000 I agree with you.

01:08:13.000 And I know the behind-the-scenes stuff.

01:08:15.000 Of not that he's implicated, just the arrogance of they'll shut up if I tell them to.

01:08:21.000 And now he sees that's not the case.

01:08:24.000 And then the different scenarios of where this goes.

01:08:29.000 So what is your positive vision versus your negative vision?

01:08:34.000 I don't really have a big positive vision for him.

01:08:38.000 And the reason for that is because I think he has no ability to renew.

01:08:42.000 I think that, you know, we both know him the first term.

01:08:45.000 It was a lot of disappointments and a lot of unforced errors and failure.

01:08:50.000 And we were looking for the second term to kind of restart.

01:08:53.000 And, you know, he's got a lay of the land.

01:08:55.000 He's got personnel.

01:08:56.000 He's got expertise.

01:08:57.000 We thought he was going to make it better, but it's all the same mistakes.

01:09:01.000 And so this is a very old guy.

01:09:03.000 This kind of is the second chance and he's blowing it.

01:09:07.000 If he had the capability to reinvent himself at this point in time, which I don't think he does, you got a clean house.

01:09:14.000 You got to get a new chief of staff.

01:09:16.000 You got to get new personnel.

01:09:17.000 And you would really need an intention to flip the script.

01:09:21.000 And you would need to say the Epstein files are going out and use them to go after your enemies.

01:09:26.000 You know, it's like you said, and we're kind of in agreement on this.

01:09:29.000 Even if all of this has happened, if he went after his opponents like Clinton and Obama and Comey and Clapper, and if he raised some of these departments and agencies to the ground and he did the mass deportations, he would be forgiven.

01:09:44.000 You know, he's a lame duck and that could cut both ways.

01:09:46.000 You could say nothing new can come out of it.

01:09:48.000 He can't win again.

01:09:50.000 At the same time, you would say he could kind of burn the house down on his way out, meaning not necessarily destructive, but he could really go for it and he could really go for the institutions and really go for these bad people.

01:10:02.000 And this is a crisis.

01:10:03.000 This is like a hot potato.

01:10:05.000 He has it.

01:10:06.000 Pass it to the next person, you know, double it and pass it to Hillary Clinton. 0.99

01:10:09.000 Why is he caught holding the bag and dying with the Epstein thing? 0.71

01:10:13.000 So, you know, if I were him and I'm not him, but if I was, and you can kind of see that he's doing this, he's flirting with the idea.

01:10:20.000 Take this political football, hunt it, use it to blow up the left, use it to blow up the Democrat side, use it to raise some of these intelligence agencies, use this to split with Israel, you know, and some of this other stuff.

01:10:34.000 There's opportunities on the table for him to have like a second wind, like a second act here in this already bad start for the second term.

01:10:44.000 I just have no faith that he's going to take it because what that would involve, I don't think he's capable of it.

01:10:49.000 I don't think he's willing it.

01:10:51.000 And that's sad.

01:10:53.000 But if I were him, that's what I would do.

01:10:55.000 You know, never let a crisis go to waste.

01:10:58.000 So who do you see as a villains in the administration?

01:11:01.000 Susie Wiles, Brooke Rollins, I would say this John Ratcliffe at the CIA.

01:11:08.000 These are all terrible choices.

01:11:10.000 I think probably the better people are Tulsi Gabbard.

01:11:13.000 Even her, I don't trust, though.

01:11:14.000 I'm going to tell you the truth.

01:11:15.000 I don't trust her.

01:11:16.000 And I don't trust J.D. Vance.

01:11:18.000 I think he's a yes man.

01:11:19.000 I think that he is a chameleon.

01:11:22.000 But those would be the people that I would get rid of right out of the gate, the chief of staff, CIA director.

01:11:27.000 Tulsi Gabbard, she's not even doing a good job as the DNI. 1.00

01:11:30.000 You know, we need someone.

01:11:31.000 I would say she's ideologically presented as more sound.

01:11:36.000 She's not doing a good job. 0.91

01:11:38.000 I would just purge the whole thing.

01:11:39.000 I think Christy Noam's got to go.

01:11:41.000 She's way more focused on, you know, the former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, than she is, I think, on immigration.

01:11:48.000 I would say that Stephen Miller's got to go, contrary to what people say.

01:11:52.000 I think he's just got to purge the whole lot of them because there's no results.

01:11:56.000 And when there's no results, people got to go.

01:11:58.000 But I would start with Wiles, Rollins, Christy Noam, John Ratcliffe, Tulsi Gabbri, because she's not doing a good job.

01:12:04.000 Pete Hegseff, because he's malleable, even though some say he's on side.

01:12:08.000 Rubio, he's got to go yesterday.

01:12:11.000 He's terrible.

01:12:12.000 Those would be the ones I get rid of.

01:12:14.000 And then everybody else I get rid of the day after.

01:12:16.000 Rubio literally threatened to attack me physically, but he seems to be seeing from a MAGA script.

01:12:21.000 What's wrong with Rubio?

01:12:23.000 I've heard that.

01:12:24.000 And that's been a line I've heard on social media.

01:12:26.000 But I mean, there was this memo that came out the other day.

01:12:29.000 He's pushing the president to take a tougher line on Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran.

01:12:34.000 He's leading the charge to take people's citizenship at the State Department and deport them for anti-Semitism.

01:12:40.000 He was pushing, I believe, some of the regime change stuff against Iran.

01:12:44.000 So I'm sure you've seen the ambassador to Israel send a letter two weeks ago saying, please stop attacking Christians.

01:12:55.000 And the settlers are attacking Christian ancient churches in the West Bank and other areas.

01:13:02.000 And, you know, even the huge Christian Zionist, the former governor of Arkansas is coming out and saying, please stop. 0.83

01:13:12.000 And now they've burned down more churches.

01:13:14.000 What do you make of that behavior?

01:13:17.000 I think it's a load of crap.

01:13:19.000 I think it's meant to placate us.

01:13:20.000 I think that Israel messed up when they shot that church and they knew they messed up because even a lot of the big Zionists said, okay, we have a problem.

01:13:28.000 You know, you tried to shoot a cross off a church and you clearly missed.

01:13:32.000 And there's no excuse for that, especially with everything else that people have been forced to defend and put up with.

01:13:38.000 So I think when Mike Huckabee says they're putting pressure on Israel not to attack Christians, I think that's performative. 0.98

01:13:46.000 And the reason I think it's performative is because, look, Washington holds all the cards with all of it.

01:13:52.000 We give them the weapons.

01:13:53.000 Like they are totally dependent on us.

01:13:56.000 No, I'm not denying that.

01:13:57.000 I'm saying, why would Israel be blowing up churches and firebombing ancient Christian settlements when the Protestant Christian Zionists send them billions a year? 0.98

01:14:08.000 It just shows, let's put it to the next level.

01:14:12.000 I think they've lost control.

01:14:13.000 I think even to some extent, the IDF, I mean, they're shooting people in the back of the head, getting aid, and those are Muslims.

01:14:19.000 They're blowing up churches.

01:14:21.000 That church, the cardinal there, Pisabella, he was calling Pope Francis every day as Pope Francis prayed for Gaza.

01:14:29.000 And you know the Israelis had to hate that. 0.82

01:14:32.000 They hate that the Catholic Church is speaking out against the war.

01:14:35.000 They hate that every time something happens, the Catholic Church calls for Israel to stop the invasion.

01:14:41.000 They hate that Francis was calling the church.

01:14:43.000 And so I think, whether it came from the top or whether it was freelancing in the IDF, they said, you know what?

01:14:49.000 It's time to, let's take a shot at these Catholics. 1.00

01:14:52.000 Enough calling for the end of the war, enough praying for the people of Gaza.

01:14:56.000 I think they are just totally bloodthirsty and emboldened.

01:14:59.000 I think, you know, the way they've been conducting this entire thing with the aid sites, they're clearly emboldened because, you know, whether it's shooting the church, and as a Catholic, I'm mortified.

01:15:08.000 That's such a horrible thing.

01:15:10.000 But at the same time, they're also murdering and starving people to death while even Trump and the Europeans are telling them, you got to feed these people.

01:15:20.000 You're talking about Gaza blowing up the church. 0.99

01:15:22.000 They're now burning down the West Bank Christian communities. 0.98

01:15:29.000 Well, and here's my point is I think that the Israelis just don't care. 1.00

01:15:33.000 You know, that's kind of my point is if the Israelis cared about winning over the public and getting people on their side, they would have been doing a lot of things differently, whether it's the Christian communities in Gaza or the West Bank, the settlers that are spitting on the Christian missionaries there. 0.64

01:15:49.000 That's what Huckabee was referring to.

01:15:51.000 That's something that's been going on for a long time.

01:15:54.000 To the extent that Huckabee's taking up that issue, I think that's damage control.

01:15:57.000 I think that's a big farce.

01:15:59.000 He wants to get all that money.

01:16:00.000 He leads those groups there.

01:16:03.000 So then the larger question is, looking at Russia and Ukraine and Trump with a 10-day ultimatum issued two days ago to Russia, where do you see that going?

01:16:16.000 I think it's going where you think it's going.

01:16:18.000 I think it's going nuclear.

01:16:19.000 This is an escalation.

01:16:20.000 And like everything else, Trump only knows one language, which is escalation and these maximalist demands.

01:16:26.000 The reason that he's making this 10-day ultimatum is because he has bent over backwards to make a deal with Putin.

01:16:32.000 And he's gone through these big gestures, meeting with them in Riyadh in the first few weeks, very high-level meeting, the Secretary of State and the Foreign Minister.

01:16:40.000 He's made these overtures to normalize relations.

01:16:43.000 And Putin is not biting.

01:16:44.000 Putin is not giving him anything.

01:16:46.000 Trump is throwing Zelensky under the bus.

01:16:48.000 He's going against the Europeans. 0.95

01:16:50.000 And Putin will not give him an inch.

01:16:52.000 And so I think Trump is just, like everything else, he's pissed off.

01:16:56.000 And he's just saying, you know what?

01:16:57.000 F this guy.

01:16:58.000 That's effectively where we are.

01:16:59.000 It's basically what he's saying.

01:17:01.000 He's saying, look, Putin doesn't want to end the war.

01:17:03.000 Okay, no more Mr. Nice Guy.

01:17:05.000 You want Joe Biden back?

01:17:06.000 I'll give you Joe Biden on steroids. 0.98

01:17:09.000 It's the same thing he did with China.

01:17:10.000 It's the same thing he did with Canada, with some of the tariffs.

01:17:14.000 It's the same thing he did with the Hoof.

01:17:15.000 I agree with you.

01:17:16.000 So why is Russia not making a deal?

01:17:19.000 Because Russia's winning. 0.92

01:17:21.000 Russia's in the middle of this summer offensive.

01:17:23.000 The warfare is all drone-based.

01:17:25.000 Russia's leading the way on the battlefield and innovation.

01:17:28.000 They've got these fiber optic drones.

01:17:30.000 They're attached by a cable.

01:17:32.000 And so they are making more advances into Ukraine this summer than they have basically since the beginning of the war, since the very beginning.

01:17:40.000 And it's going to go down.

01:17:41.000 Fiber optic drones.

01:17:43.000 Right.

01:17:44.000 And Ukraine has no counter for that right now.

01:17:46.000 So, you know, there's this rapid innovation happening on the battlefield.

01:17:50.000 Russia's leading it. 0.91

01:17:51.000 And I think that, you know, why is Russia going to give up now?

01:17:54.000 They're gobbling up all this land and they're saying maybe they'll make a deal in the future, but they want to get as Much as they can before they make a deal.

01:18:02.000 And so both sides are being greedy.

01:18:04.000 The United States is being greedy.

01:18:06.000 Russia is being greedy. 0.65

01:18:07.000 Russia wants to have the best position to make a deal.

01:18:10.000 So does the United States.

01:18:11.000 And so they're both saying, you know, we don't want to make a deal, but especially Russia is saying, we don't want to make a deal just yet.

01:18:17.000 We want to take more.

01:18:18.000 Then we'll make a deal when we're in a better position.

01:18:20.000 Let's take a few calls.

01:18:21.000 I agree with you on that.

01:18:22.000 But Democrats, what are their aces and the holes?

01:18:25.000 They've been saying Tom Holman is going to kill migrants, clearly setting up a false flag.

01:18:31.000 They've been winning a summer rage.

01:18:32.000 You know, the No Kings protests, that all failed.

01:18:36.000 The hitman up there killing people says he works for Tampon Tim.

01:18:42.000 What do the Democrats do?

01:18:45.000 I think they still don't know.

01:18:47.000 They appear to still be in disarray.

01:18:49.000 There is no leader of the Democrats.

01:18:51.000 There's no strong messaging.

01:18:53.000 What they will run on in the next year is the Big Beautiful bill, which is extremely unpopular.

01:18:58.000 They're going to run on corporate tax cuts for Medicaid, fighting the oligarchy, fighting the king, the immigration stuff, and Epstein.

01:19:05.000 That's going to be their playbook.

01:19:06.000 As far as instability, I do agree that the deep state, it's clear they're ginning up something.

01:19:13.000 And the question is really more like, are we going to get an Israeli false flag or a Democrat false flag first?

01:19:18.000 Are we going to get like some kind of ICE false flag by the Democrats?

01:19:23.000 Are we going to get a Hamas Hezbollah false flag?

01:19:27.000 That's a question of what?

01:19:27.000 Israel's planning.

01:19:30.000 Or will we get both false flag on the illegal aliens?

01:19:35.000 I think it's kind of a foregone conclusion.

01:19:38.000 And we might even get something organic.

01:19:40.000 You know, I mean, the left, they really have no options in the sense that, yeah, they might have something where they're really leaning into this thing where they're saying that the illegal immigrants are being stripped of their civil liberties or illegal immigrants are getting caught up in the dragnet.

01:19:54.000 That doesn't even seem to be working.

01:19:56.000 What is going to happen, though, is another left-wing nut job is going to kill a bunch of people and that is going to sink them.

01:20:02.000 So we'll take a few calls and let you go.

01:20:06.000 And it's been a good discussion.

01:20:09.000 In your view, if you were Trump, what would you do to extricate yourself from the path he's on right now?

01:20:18.000 Is there any way to say what Trump's doing?

01:20:21.000 The only pathway is forward, always forward.

01:20:24.000 So look, if he's getting hit over Epstein, he's got to give the base more.

01:20:28.000 Take advantage of the crisis.

01:20:30.000 You know, and maybe it wasn't 5D chess.

01:20:32.000 Obviously, it wasn't, but play it like it was anyway.

01:20:36.000 If there's this big demand for the files, just act like you were playing it that way anyway.

01:20:41.000 Dump the stuff on the Clintons.

01:20:42.000 Dump the stuff on these people.

01:20:44.000 Go even use it as leverage against Israel. 0.74

01:20:48.000 Drum's a no-brainer.

01:20:49.000 So why won't he do it?

01:20:52.000 I don't know.

01:20:52.000 It depends on what's in him.

01:20:54.000 And maybe that raises a question.

01:20:56.000 Is it a mutually assured destruction?

01:20:58.000 Like that, that seems to me to be the obvious because that's what people say.

01:21:01.000 They say, why did Biden not use it against Trump?

01:21:04.000 Why won't Trump use it against the Democrats?

01:21:06.000 Probably because there's mutually assured destruction.

01:21:08.000 If the Democrats used it on Trump, they would burn up the game.

01:21:13.000 Senator Wynne's trying to get Epstein's bank records.

01:21:16.000 The Democrats are doing the DOJ.

01:21:20.000 I totally agree.

01:21:21.000 It's mutually assured destruction.

01:21:22.000 So why are they doing it?

01:21:24.000 Because I don't think these congresspeople realize what they're doing.

01:21:28.000 Yeah, they're playing a dangerous game.

01:21:30.000 Then again, it's a generational thing.

01:21:32.000 Maybe the Democrats think that it's not going to hurt them that bad.

01:21:35.000 These guys like Bill Clinton.

01:21:36.000 Epstein's operation was really the labor-labor Democrat alliance from the 90s, labor in the UK, labor in Israel, the Dems in the United States.

01:21:46.000 That was in the 90s.

01:21:47.000 So I think maybe some of the younger guys are thinking we're going to push on this.

01:21:51.000 It's hurting Trump.

01:21:53.000 Maybe it's like this, you know, it's this effect where they just want to hit Trump by any means necessary.

01:21:58.000 So maybe they're not aware of the risk.

01:22:01.000 This evidence points towards them getting in trouble.

01:22:04.000 So then why is Trump covering it up?

01:22:06.000 And I keep repeating the same question.

01:22:08.000 It's just, it's idiotic.

01:22:09.000 Because if he had thought he was involved, it would have supported him.

01:22:11.000 That's all I need.

01:22:12.000 I'll turn on his ass in a second. 0.98

01:22:13.000 But then why is he acting guilty when I don't see evidence of it?

01:22:18.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the million dollar question.

01:22:21.000 Because we don't know what's in him, we can only speculate.

01:22:23.000 And since he's in them, he's named in them.

01:22:25.000 He knows he's named in them.

01:22:27.000 You got to know that he must be worried about an indictment or even the appearance of impropriety, which could lead to an impeachment.

01:22:34.000 That's the other thing is he's in.

01:22:36.000 He's in office.

01:22:37.000 So if we lose the midterms, if the Republicans lose the midterms and something is damning in those files, they'll impeach him.

01:22:44.000 Maybe he's worried about that.

01:22:46.000 What do you think is going to happen with this CrossFire Hurricane?

01:22:48.000 Talk of indictments.

01:22:49.000 War talk? 0.56

01:22:51.000 I think it's all talk.

01:22:52.000 They've talked and talked about that.

01:22:54.000 I'm not going to hold my breath for them to bring charges.

01:22:57.000 It's a load of crap every time, you know, very frustrating.

01:23:00.000 You and I, we're the victims of lawfare.

01:23:03.000 Somehow, all of our enemies, even though we win the White House twice, they never do.

01:23:06.000 I think it's honestly infuriating.

01:23:08.000 Don't talk about it.

01:23:09.000 Do it.

01:23:10.000 Trump posts these AI edits of him like arresting Obama.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, you're the president.

01:23:14.000 You don't need to make a cartoon about it.

01:23:16.000 Do it.

01:23:16.000 Pick up the phone, sign the damn executive order, and you do it.

01:23:20.000 You know, and MAGA needs to get better about that. 1.00

01:23:22.000 MAGA loves taking the bait and they see a funny post on True Social and go, LOL, this is the best.

01:23:28.000 Dude, I'm sick of advertisements and AI edits.

01:23:31.000 He's the president.

01:23:32.000 Make something happen.

01:23:33.000 Take action.

01:23:35.000 There's a lot of forgiveness if he would reward his base, but he does nothing.

01:23:40.000 And that's the problem.

01:23:42.000 So, and the base needs to get better about being vocal about that and stick up for themselves.

01:23:46.000 They're afraid.

01:23:48.000 You know, they're defending Trump.

01:23:49.000 They're negotiating with themselves.

01:23:51.000 We need to ask better of Trump.

01:23:53.000 No, you know, there could be a lot of people.

01:23:55.000 As soon as I and you and others came out three weeks ago on Trump said, this is insane, the whole influencer thing attacked us and said we were Democrats.

01:24:03.000 Now they have to admit, oh, God, this was a disaster.

01:24:06.000 Are they getting talking points?

01:24:08.000 I mean, obviously they are.

01:24:09.000 These people are a joke.

01:24:11.000 They're totally getting talking points.

01:24:13.000 That's clear because they're all running the same script.

01:24:16.000 Every real authentic patriot is pissed about the Epstein files because it's indefensible.

01:24:21.000 I mean, we've all seen it.

01:24:22.000 We all know what it is.

01:24:24.000 It's literally indefensible the way it's been handled.

01:24:26.000 And all they can bring themselves to say about it is these talking points about, oh, well, Trump kicked Epstein out of his club.

01:24:34.000 Oh, well, you know, it's really, it's a Democrat thing.

01:24:36.000 Oh, it's five-dimensional chess.

01:24:38.000 So it's literally being coordinated in group chats.

01:24:40.000 A script has gone out.

01:24:42.000 They're being paid by PAX or, you know, something like influenceable or something like that.

01:24:47.000 And people should take note of who's defending this.

01:24:50.000 No, I agree, but they lost a lot of credibility.

01:24:52.000 I'm just trying to figure out a way out of this and wargaming it.

01:24:55.000 But it looks progressively worse every day.

01:25:00.000 And then I just ask myself, why did Trump have to destroy himself on this hill?

01:25:05.000 There's not evidence.

01:25:07.000 And that's the big question.

01:25:10.000 That is the big question.

01:25:11.000 All right.

01:25:12.000 Nick's been very nice to this interview, this debate.

01:25:14.000 And I want to let him go soon.

01:25:16.000 The crew's been here swimming since 6 a.m.

01:25:18.000 So let's go ahead and take a few phone calls.

01:25:20.000 We'll move quickly.

01:25:22.000 Your questions or comments for Nick Fuentez, Nick Tay Fuentez on Rumble and on X. I'm Arillox Jones.

01:25:28.000 But this is really, this is integrity, folks.

01:25:31.000 We're wargaming it.

01:25:32.000 There's not a script.

01:25:33.000 We're trying to figure this out.

01:25:34.000 I feel like it's awake, actually.

01:25:37.000 I mean, I'm horrified.

01:25:38.000 I just have nothing else to say other than I just, my God, if Trump doesn't start indicting people, if they don't release the episode files very soon, then it is going against my own personal interest.

01:25:55.000 These Democrats, I know, are evil, want to put me in prison, but I cannot join with something that's a lesser evil.

01:26:01.000 So I have my guts torn out my ass right now, but I've got to tell the truth, and I am.

01:26:07.000 All right, let's go to Ethan in Alabama.

01:26:09.000 You're on the air.

01:26:10.000 Go ahead.

01:26:10.000 You're on the air.

01:26:12.000 Hey, how you doing?

01:26:13.000 Go ahead.

01:26:14.000 Yes.

01:26:15.000 Just forgive me a little bit.

01:26:17.000 I'm a little nervous because you guys are both my inspirations, especially Nick.

01:26:22.000 I just recently became a VoIPA.

01:26:24.000 I don't mean to take y'all's time, but stop apologizing.

01:26:27.000 You're on the air.

01:26:28.000 Just what's your point?

01:26:30.000 Okay, so my question to you, Alex, was if Nick were by chance to start a GoIPA war against like the Trump movement, like would you be in like would you be a part of the movement?

01:26:42.000 I'm getting tired of these Judeo-Catholics, Judeo-Christians in the office dictating our government, and I just... 1.00

01:26:54.000 Three weeks ago, I came out day one and said this is BS within hours of it breaking.

01:27:01.000 And I've tried to figure it out since.

01:27:03.000 So I am at war with the Republican establishment trying to control Trump.

01:27:09.000 So it's not, do I, I would, if Nick launched some war against Trump that he kind of already has, I would then gauge it and say, do I agree with it?

01:27:17.000 He kind of already did it.

01:27:18.000 So I think you're kind of like behind the curve here.

01:27:21.000 I think we're already here and we're saying we want to get Trump steered back.

01:27:24.000 Can he be salvaged?

01:27:26.000 We're having a discussion about this.

01:27:28.000 We know the Democrats are pure evil.

01:27:31.000 Is that a fair statement, Nick?

01:27:33.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:36.000 We are and have been at war with Trump for a long time.

01:27:39.000 And, you know, I think that, as you said, if you watch your show, you did come out on day one and it was highly publicized.

01:27:46.000 It was everywhere.

01:27:47.000 And you said this is reprehensible, what Trump is doing.

01:27:50.000 And the question now is just, what form is this going to take next?

01:27:55.000 And I have some ideas, but my first inclination is.

01:27:59.000 Let me stop you again. 0.84

01:28:00.000 Exactly.

01:28:00.000 We're now looking at wreckage.

01:28:02.000 I'm going to be honest, I'm not going to get up here decisive and say, I've got all the answers.

01:28:05.000 I am literally like in a car wreck and the cars are all blown up.

01:28:10.000 People are laying on the ground.

01:28:11.000 I think we're trying to figure this out, right, Nick?

01:28:14.000 Absolutely.

01:28:15.000 Yeah.

01:28:16.000 We don't know what's going on and we don't know the way forward.

01:28:16.000 You're right.

01:28:19.000 But my first inclination is we have to punish them, you know, and I know people didn't like my tactics last year, but my first instinct when I heard this is when Trump said, I don't want your support, my first thought is that needs to be on billboards.

01:28:34.000 That needs to be projected at rallies.

01:28:36.000 Come to the midterms.

01:28:37.000 People need to say and remember that I don't want your support.

01:28:41.000 You're right.

01:28:41.000 Our only hope is killing his hubris.

01:28:44.000 Like if there's any salvaging him, which is actually working some, he, you know, if we try to say, oh, take the vaccine, people backlash, he backed off.

01:28:54.000 Exactly.

01:28:55.000 Exactly.

01:28:56.000 Trump, gut level.

01:28:57.000 Is Trump salvageable?

01:28:59.000 No.

01:29:00.000 Gut level, no.

01:29:02.000 We have to push anyway.

01:29:04.000 We have to push and either he will capitulate and we'll be surprised or we push and we push into something new and it becomes the basis of the orbit to do the right thing.

01:29:15.000 Exactly.

01:29:16.000 Exactly right.

01:29:17.000 And it's sort of like the first order.

01:29:19.000 You know, something emerges out of the shell of Trumpism and we carry it forward.

01:29:23.000 Forward must be the battle cry, always forward.

01:29:26.000 You know, I'm not a hater and I'm with you on that.

01:29:29.000 We don't want to be haters bitching about it and say, well, you know, this sucks.

01:29:33.000 We're out.

01:29:34.000 No, we're in this.

01:29:35.000 We want to see positive change.

01:29:36.000 And if Trump isn't going to do it, we'll carry it forward without him.

01:29:39.000 That's got to be the best.

01:29:40.000 Exactly.

01:29:40.000 I'm not rooting against Trump.

01:29:41.000 I'm horrified.

01:29:42.000 And you're right to say that I've tried the gymnastics, wargame it, but I've been honest.

01:29:48.000 I don't know.

01:29:48.000 And I am just disgusted.

01:29:51.000 Johnny in Florida, you're on the air.

01:29:52.000 Go ahead.

01:29:56.000 Have you got me?

01:29:57.000 Yes, I got you, Johnny.

01:29:58.000 Go ahead.

01:29:59.000 All right, look, I'm going to tell you all what kind of outstanding job you both did.

01:30:04.000 But I'm just going to say this point blank to Nick Pointez.

01:30:09.000 It's just like when Christ picked up that stone and said, cast it.

01:30:14.000 The ones amongst you, cast the first stone.

01:30:18.000 I'm not saying that because I'm a Christian.

01:30:20.000 I'm saying that because that's a fact that it happened.

01:30:25.000 The only thing I can say is that Trump's going to have a come to Jesus moment, and he's going to pick up a stone and say, y'all throw the first stone at whoever's guilty.

01:30:37.000 Other than that, we don't build our nation upon hatred.

01:30:42.000 We try to work with what we got and build it to be better.

01:30:46.000 That's all I got to say, and I appreciate both of you.

01:30:49.000 Nick, I think you put that point out.

01:30:51.000 How do the Democrats try to connect him to Epstein when they're completely convicted of it?

01:30:56.000 It is a he without sin, throw the first stone.

01:31:00.000 I don't know that that applies.

01:31:01.000 I mean, if they're all guilty of this, then they all got to go.

01:31:04.000 You know what I mean?

01:31:05.000 Like, you know, we could say the Democrats are hypocrites, but then we could say Trump is a hypocrite.

01:31:10.000 no, I agree, but how do they use Epstein on him when they're confirmed involved?

01:31:15.000 Yeah, again, I think it depends on what's in the files, which we don't know.

01:31:19.000 But at the same time, Trump runs the DOJ, so the onus is on him.

01:31:23.000 You know, I mean, I'm really just not interested in that.

01:31:26.000 When people say Democrats and Republicans, I say you're repeating yourself.

01:31:30.000 You're talking about the same people.

01:31:31.000 So, you know, people want to make it about the Republicans versus the Democrats.

01:31:35.000 And, you know, I agree white Johnson and Senator Thune trying to block and have fake congressional resets so Trump doesn't get his nominees.

01:31:49.000 I don't know what game they're playing with that.

01:31:51.000 I think that, you know, that's leverage they have against Trump.

01:31:54.000 I think that Mike Johnson.

01:31:55.000 No, it's well, Mr. Trump's actually weak that they're doing that.

01:32:00.000 Right.

01:32:01.000 I think that John, I don't know about that necessarily.

01:32:03.000 I think that Johnson's doing it on Trump's behalf.

01:32:06.000 He's covering it up for Trump.

01:32:08.000 So you think he's doing a reset to cover it up?

01:32:11.000 I do.

01:32:11.000 I think John Thune wants leverage against Trump.

01:32:14.000 Trump and Thune are not aligned, but I think Johnson's covering it up on his behalf.

01:32:21.000 Dave in FEMA Region 9, that's on the West Coast.

01:32:24.000 Go ahead, Dave.

01:32:25.000 You're on the air with Dick Fuentes.

01:32:27.000 The IP members out here.

01:32:29.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:32:29.000 Thanks, Nick.

01:32:31.000 So the Epstein list for me is not about Epstein.

01:32:34.000 It's about exposing the people that rape children for decades, right?

01:32:38.000 But unfortunately, we live in a post-constitutional era.

01:32:42.000 And right now, it's the legislative branch and the sociopathic control agarchs from past administrations, deep inbeds in the FBI, CIA, that are ruining our republic.

01:32:55.000 So I don't think that MAGA base is walking away from President Trump because we're not ideologues.

01:33:02.000 A single issue, whether the FBI is slow walking this or the DOJ is slow walking this, is not going to prevent us from supporting the MAGA movement, which is way bigger than President Trump.

01:33:13.000 It's about we the people.

01:33:15.000 The coup against President Trump in 16 and 20 and the one against President Biden Buffett in 2024 was not against those three figureheads.

01:33:24.000 It was against we the people.

01:33:26.000 So we will get a chance to destroy this establishment class, these sociopathic controligarchs. 0.99

01:33:33.000 Well, I mean, I would raise that, yeah, I hear you, on the trade, on cutting deep state funding.

01:33:40.000 I mean, there is a lot of good happening, Nick.

01:33:42.000 That's what's so painful about this.

01:33:45.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:33:47.000 Like I said, I don't think you can treat it as a singular issue.

01:33:50.000 And we talk about oligarchs.

01:33:52.000 I mean, Trump, by definition, is an oligarch.

01:33:55.000 He is a billionaire.

01:33:56.000 I mean, look at his cabinet.

01:33:58.000 Linda McMahon, Howard Luttnick, Scott Besson.

01:34:01.000 Scott Besson comes from Soros.

01:34:04.000 He worked for Soros.

01:34:05.000 I mean, if they're not oligarchs, then who is?

01:34:08.000 Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance.

01:34:10.000 I mean, look at the people that supported Trump getting into office.

01:34:12.000 It was Silicon Valley, Wall Street, the Israel lobby, and then Trump hired all of them.

01:34:18.000 I mean, all the people in the DOD and the Pentagon are Musk people.

01:34:21.000 If Elon Musk and Peter Thiel are not oligarchs, who is?

01:34:26.000 So what do you make of the Musk-Trump split?

01:34:29.000 I mean, that looks pretty real.

01:34:31.000 Oh, I think it's real, but, you know, that's just one other oligarch.

01:34:35.000 I think that that's got nothing to do with what's going on.

01:34:38.000 At least Elon Musk was calling out the Epstein stuff on June 5th.

01:34:42.000 That's why you say he's owed an apology.

01:34:45.000 Absolutely.

01:34:46.000 And I said it, and you said it too, the day it happened.

01:34:48.000 I said, Elon is right.

01:34:50.000 He has no reason to lie.

01:34:52.000 And everybody said, oh, that's fake.

01:34:54.000 Trump deflected from it.

01:34:55.000 So, yeah, absolutely.

01:34:56.000 But, you know, this whole thing about, oh, Epstein's one little issue.

01:35:01.000 It's about the Republic or whatever.

01:35:02.000 First of all, we don't have Republic.

01:35:04.000 That is a fiction.

01:35:05.000 Second of all, Trump is the oligarch candidate, if there ever was one.

01:35:10.000 He is the congenital oligarch, if there ever was one.

01:35:13.000 But MAGA people need to wake up.

01:35:15.000 This is what I'm talking about.

01:35:16.000 These are like the mind-raped. 0.98

01:35:18.000 These are the raped, brainwashed people that bought into the scam and they think that Trump is carrying the banner forward.

01:35:24.000 It's like, look around you.

01:35:26.000 I mean, how are you?

01:35:28.000 I mean, they see the good appointments and things better than Democrats.

01:35:31.000 I don't do lesser of two evils.

01:35:34.000 But overall, I don't think all Trump supporters just might sort of the Q-tards. 1.00

01:35:39.000 Well, now they're waking up too.

01:35:41.000 It's just, it's hard to look at the Democrats and then just totally turn against Trump.

01:35:46.000 But I get what you're saying.

01:35:47.000 It's a bad sign.

01:35:47.000 Let's take a few more calls.

01:35:48.000 Brian in Arizona, you're on the air.

01:35:50.000 Brian, go ahead.

01:35:51.000 Yes.

01:35:52.000 Hulk Hogan said faces change, nothing else.

01:35:55.000 I agree completely with Nick that Trump is done.

01:35:58.000 He's just done.

01:35:59.000 He called us stupid.

01:36:00.000 Don't forget that ever and said he doesn't need our support.

01:36:03.000 Like, okay.

01:36:05.000 And also, Alex, Alex gets breaking news.

01:36:08.000 Nick said earlier he plans on running.

01:36:10.000 This is breaking news.

01:36:11.000 Only Alex finds breaking news like this.

01:36:13.000 Nick, that would be amazing.

01:36:15.000 My question is, can you please hurry up?

01:36:18.000 Could you imagine if Thomas Matthew is president and you were vice president?

01:36:22.000 Could you imagine you fixing Israel? 0.96

01:36:24.000 That would be amazing.

01:36:25.000 Well, Nick's too young, but he might be president someday.

01:36:30.000 So you want Nick to run for Congress?

01:36:34.000 I would love him to help our government from whatever level he could.

01:36:39.000 All right.

01:36:39.000 Thank you, Brian.

01:36:41.000 Cameron, North Carolina.

01:36:43.000 Cameron, you're on the air.

01:36:44.000 Go ahead.

01:36:46.000 Appreciate you guys having me on the air.

01:36:48.000 It's an honor to speak with both of you.

01:36:49.000 Honor to talk to you.

01:36:50.000 Go ahead.

01:36:51.000 Yeah, and big shout out to Nick for waking me up.

01:36:54.000 Thank you.

01:36:55.000 My question is, Trump planned to run in 2014, 2015.

01:37:02.000 Do you think that it was intentional when he said that Epstein would have trouble coming later, that his administration would go on to arrest Epstein and then Epstein would eventually die?

01:37:16.000 Do you think that was calculated?

01:37:20.000 That question is for Nick, but I'd love to hear Alex's opinion as well.

01:37:23.000 Do you think Trump had Epstein killed?

01:37:28.000 I think it's certainly possible.

01:37:29.000 You know, There's this funny clip from Bill O'Reilly's show where Bill O'Reilly goes, Epstein got arrested under Biden and he was persecuted by Maorcus or not Majorkis, Mira Garland.

01:37:42.000 And he's with this journalist.

01:37:43.000 They go, Nope, nope, that happened in 2019.

01:37:45.000 So I wonder how many people even know that that whole thing happened under Trump and Bill Barr.

01:37:50.000 When you look at the coincidences, it's really interesting, isn't it?

01:37:54.000 Bill Barr's father hired Epstein or may have hired him at the Dalton School, gave him his first job.

01:38:00.000 Then his son, Bill Barr is the attorney general.

01:38:02.000 It's under him that Epstein is charged again.

01:38:05.000 It's under his jurisdiction that Epstein is charged.

01:38:07.000 And Donald Barr wrote a book about pedophilia.

01:38:11.000 Yeah, he wrote that science fiction story mirroring the Epstein blackmail ring.

01:38:11.000 Exactly.

01:38:16.000 So, yeah, I don't think it's far-fetched.

01:38:18.000 And it was Alex Acosta, the labor secretary, that gave Epstein the deal back in 2006.

01:38:24.000 You know, Epstein got charged.

01:38:26.000 I promoted him a decade later after the cover-up to that.

01:38:26.000 That was the first time.

01:38:31.000 And then he resigned over it.

01:38:34.000 That's right.

01:38:35.000 And then in 2019, when Epstein killed himself, Acosta, who really had no business even being there, he was the attorney for the Southern District of Florida, gets promoted to be labor secretary.

01:38:45.000 It was a very bizarre fit, not really a good fit.

01:38:48.000 Then Epstein commits suicide and Acosta resigns when there's all this scrutiny over the sweetheart deal from the first round of charges.

01:38:55.000 And there's all these types.

01:38:56.000 Those are just two of the connections.

01:38:58.000 Bill Barr, Acosta, but there's also Howard Luttnick.

01:39:00.000 There's also Alan Dershowitz.

01:39:03.000 There's Peter Thiel.

01:39:04.000 I mean, there's a lot of connections there between Trump and Epstein.

01:39:08.000 So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Trump had him killed or someone close to Trump had him killed.

01:39:13.000 And maybe that's why maybe Trump killed him.

01:39:16.000 Maybe that's the real cover-up.

01:39:17.000 You never know.

01:39:19.000 Jerome in Michigan, you're on the air with Nick Fuentez.

01:39:21.000 Go ahead, Jerome.

01:39:23.000 Hey, can you hear me?

01:39:24.000 I can go ahead, Jerome.

01:39:26.000 Hey, so I just want to say, like, really just shout out to both of you guys.

01:39:29.000 I'm a huge fan.

01:39:31.000 Really liked the way that this conversation went because I was almost a little concerned on Twitter when I thought it was a good debate because I love you guys both.

01:39:38.000 I started off listening to Alex Jones, moved on to listening to Nick Fuentez.

01:39:42.000 Really, it's not much of a question.

01:39:43.000 It's more of a comment.

01:39:45.000 I just personally don't really understand why so much of the Trump base is giving him even like a shadow of a doubt.

01:39:50.000 I mean, he's literally broken almost every fucking promise, at least since 2024, let alone 2016, right?

01:39:57.000 And I feel like there's a level of almost like, like, they think that like eventually he'll like honor his promise and he'll live up to what he promised.

01:40:05.000 And every time, like, how many fell for it again awards are they going to win before they realize that he's controlled opposition, in my opinion?

01:40:13.000 Well, this is where I could actually debate, Nick, and I appreciate your call.

01:40:17.000 They dismantled border enforcement.

01:40:19.000 They've scaled up.

01:40:21.000 And yeah, it's less than Obama did and less than he did before because they didn't have the enforcement.

01:40:25.000 They, from what I've seen, my sources, they're really trying to scale that up.

01:40:28.000 So 96% shutdown on the border coming in, scaling up deportation.

01:40:32.000 Is that really a fair attack on Trump?

01:40:36.000 I mean, he is saying, oh, we're going to keep people here with, you know, for farming visas and things.

01:40:41.000 So he has gone back there.

01:40:42.000 But I mean, in general, is Trump really breaking his promise on the border, Nick?

01:40:46.000 100%.

01:40:47.000 And the reason why, I mean, look, I agree with you.

01:40:47.000 Yeah.

01:40:50.000 It's miraculous what he did at the border.

01:40:52.000 Border crossings are like zero, which is unheard of.

01:40:55.000 And that would have been good in 2017, but it's 2025.

01:40:59.000 A lot of people don't have the perspective that you and I have.

01:41:03.000 Illegal immigration was so bad then, 10 years ago, that we elected Trump.

01:41:08.000 Then we had four years of Biden where 10 million people come in.

01:41:11.000 Now they closed the border.

01:41:13.000 That's too little, too late.

01:41:14.000 He promised mass deportations.

01:41:16.000 Closed border, that should have been a given.

01:41:18.000 That should have been a given from the beginning.

01:41:20.000 Now they've given us closed border.

01:41:21.000 They promised mass deportations.

01:41:23.000 We're six months in.

01:41:24.000 They haven't even started.

01:41:25.000 And they go, well, you know, that's going to happen later.

01:41:27.000 I mean, when is that going to happen?

01:41:29.000 And by the way, here's why people are concerned.

01:41:31.000 Maybe you'd be willing to say, oh, well, it'll do it next year.

01:41:34.000 They'll do it in a couple of years.

01:41:36.000 Will they?

01:41:37.000 In the middle of the midterms, Joe Rogan says, well, we only want the criminals out.

01:41:41.000 The all-in podcast, the tech bros, they're going to say, we only want the criminals gone.

01:41:46.000 Look, suffice to say, it ain't happening.

01:41:49.000 So until it happens, people need to be pissed off and saying, look, close border.

01:41:53.000 That was the promise you made in 17 that you never made good on.

01:41:56.000 Now we're down 10 million illegals just under Biden.

01:42:00.000 We got to get those numbers up.

01:42:01.000 And until they start, and they lied.

01:42:03.000 I mean, they started in the beginning of January.

01:42:05.000 They said daily deportations, daily arrests.

01:42:09.000 The numbers are going up.

01:42:10.000 Then they stopped publishing the numbers because they're so bad.

01:42:12.000 ICE has not published any deportation numbers since Trump got into office.

01:42:18.000 They're literally suppressing the numbers because they're that bad.

01:42:21.000 I want to get to the last five calls.

01:42:21.000 I hear you.

01:42:23.000 Great, great discussion here.

01:42:25.000 Riley in California on the air.

01:42:27.000 Question for Nick.

01:42:28.000 Go ahead.

01:42:29.000 Hello.

01:42:30.000 I would just like to ask Nick a question.

01:42:32.000 So I'm just wanting to know why Nick took a $500,000 Bitcoin donation from a French Jew in 2020 and then immediately changed his viewpoints on Russia and things like that. 0.61

01:42:46.000 So I just kind of don't want to know, Nick, what's going on with that?

01:42:49.000 Yeah, well, it was $250,000, actually.

01:42:52.000 Now it's worth a lot more.

01:42:53.000 It was 13.5 Bitcoin.

01:42:56.000 If you want to know the truth about it, I've talked about it before.

01:42:59.000 I didn't know the French donor.

01:43:00.000 If you know anything about him, he was a computer programmer or a hacker.

01:43:05.000 He had a degenerative neurological condition.

01:43:08.000 By the way, all of this I found out in the news.

01:43:11.000 I got two emails from him.

01:43:12.000 In August of 2019, he sent me, or excuse me, of 2020.

01:43:17.000 He sent me an email and said, hey, what's your Bitcoin address?

01:43:20.000 I want to send you some money for your birthday.

01:43:21.000 I gave it to him.

01:43:22.000 He sent me a thousand bucks.

01:43:23.000 December 8th, 2020, I get an email from him.

01:43:27.000 He says, hey, I sent you some Bitcoin.

01:43:29.000 I said, oh, cool.

01:43:30.000 Check my wallet a couple of days later.

01:43:31.000 It was quarter of a million dollars.

01:43:34.000 I emailed him back.

01:43:35.000 I said, yo, thank you so much.

01:43:36.000 Let's get on a call.

01:43:37.000 Never heard back.

01:43:39.000 Then I find out through chainalysis, which is like, it's like a CIA-backed crypto investigative thing.

01:43:46.000 They did research.

01:43:47.000 They found it was some hacker and there was a, what do you call it?

01:43:52.000 When a person dies.

01:43:53.000 In France, they found out he killed himself in some hotel room.

01:43:56.000 So I didn't know the guy, never talked to him.

01:43:59.000 My position on Russia has always been the same.

01:44:01.000 I don't know what position you're talking about, but I've got a $15 Bitcoin and they investigated me.

01:44:06.000 I never knew who gave it to me.

01:44:08.000 So now I kind of get from the color.

01:44:10.000 You work for Israel. 0.95

01:44:12.000 I mean, that is preposterous.

01:44:14.000 Well, he's saying I work for Russia, but I mean, look, my position on Russia is a Jewish hacker. 0.71

01:44:19.000 I mean, it's, yeah.

01:44:20.000 Oh, and the guy wasn't even Jewish.

01:44:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:22.000 He was French.

01:44:23.000 So, but yeah.

01:44:25.000 I mean, look, young up.

01:44:26.000 Young up, always going to him.

01:44:27.000 I just love this stuff.

01:44:29.000 What I say on air is what I am.

01:44:31.000 I'm supported by listeners buying supplements and t-shirts.

01:44:35.000 And Nick, you've got your supporters.

01:44:37.000 This idea, it's like I said, the devil's biggest trick isn't that he doesn't exist.

01:44:42.000 It's the second biggest.

01:44:43.000 It's that independent people don't exist.

01:44:45.000 No, I'm the captain of the ship.

01:44:48.000 I think it's fair to say, Nick, you're the captain, you're owned ship.

01:44:51.000 So I love these calls where like, oh, you really work for this person.

01:44:55.000 Yeah, you know, and I'm with you.

01:44:57.000 The reason I take the question is because I want to be transparent.

01:45:01.000 People have questions about it.

01:45:02.000 I give them the answer.

01:45:03.000 We took the calls.

01:45:04.000 We don't screen them.

01:45:04.000 Just they have a clear phone call.

01:45:06.000 We screen that.

01:45:07.000 If their phone's bad, we hang up on them.

01:45:08.000 But yeah, no, we love those questions.

01:45:10.000 Just like this, like, oh, you got this.

01:45:12.000 You can see the show, folks.

01:45:12.000 You got that.

01:45:14.000 You know what it is.

01:45:15.000 A few more calls.

01:45:16.000 We'll let Nick shut this down here.

01:45:17.000 Appreciate everybody's time tonight.

01:45:19.000 Joseph in Mississippi, then Jack, Sean, and Nick Weremos.

01:45:22.000 Shut this down.

01:45:22.000 Go ahead, Joseph, if you're on the air.

01:45:26.000 Yeah, so you were talking about previously the future of like America with the disintegration of the Republican Democratic Party in the future.

01:45:34.000 And even then, even with Trump being delusional as he is, he still has a 90% approval rating among the Republicans.

01:45:41.000 My question is with the future.

01:45:43.000 You know, we got J.D. Vance.

01:45:44.000 He came out of nowhere from Ohio with obvious connections with Peter Thiel.

01:45:49.000 I just want to know what you think about him, what bodes in the future for him.

01:45:53.000 And, you know, in a few years, we may be talking about him just like we're talking about Trump right now.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, I mean, I mean, I've met J.D. Vance.

01:46:00.000 I've talked to him.

01:46:01.000 Seems nice, articulate.

01:46:05.000 Peter Thiel thing, I get, you know, his companies and Palantir and all that.

01:46:10.000 I've not ever defended him.

01:46:12.000 I'm just simply saying compared to Google and Microsoft and Amazon with a real spy net.

01:46:16.000 Like, they're like, oh, Teal's inventing spying on you.

01:46:19.000 It's like, no, he's like a foot-long alligator versus a hundred-foot-long one.

01:46:24.000 So I mean, my deal is, is that the left's kind of attacked Teal, so it's become this big thing.

01:46:31.000 We're kind of joining in.

01:46:32.000 I'm like, I tacked Teal all day.

01:46:34.000 I don't, you know, anything to do with him.

01:46:36.000 My point is, what about Eric Schmidt?

01:46:40.000 What about Sundar Pachai?

01:46:42.000 What about, you know, that's what is your take on who the big bad, I mean, who's the head of the AI technocracy Nick Fuentes?

01:46:54.000 Well, I mean, the question's about Vance.

01:46:57.000 I don't, I think Vance is their man.

01:46:59.000 Whether they're the head of it or not, Vance is Peter Thiel's man.

01:47:02.000 He's the man of all of the little tech, tech bros, the all-in podcast.

01:47:08.000 He's their guy because it was Elon and Tucker.

01:47:11.000 And it was Peter Thiel that called Trump and asked Trump to make him the VP.

01:47:14.000 And Vance brought in all that money from Jacob Hellberg and from the all-in guys back in June of 2020, March and June of 2024.

01:47:24.000 There's no doubt that Vance is a creature of the whole Palantir group. 1.00

01:47:30.000 Yeah, and I don't trust him.

01:47:32.000 And I don't trust him because David Frum mentored him when he was at Yale.

01:47:37.000 And David Frum said, this guy's going to run for president.

01:47:40.000 And his superpower is his ability to connect with the white working class because of his story about Appalachia.

01:47:46.000 And that's really what it is.

01:47:48.000 It's like he is a brand that at one time was going to be critical of Trump.

01:47:52.000 He said Trump was a Nazi.

01:47:54.000 Then Trump won and Trump wasn't going away.

01:47:56.000 So they rebranded and made him a nationalist.

01:47:58.000 I don't trust him.

01:47:59.000 I think he's a creature.

01:48:01.000 I think he was grown in a laboratory.

01:48:03.000 He is an entity.

01:48:04.000 Vance is not even his name.

01:48:05.000 We've disagreed about, I know, I think you like him more than I do, but I don't trust him at all.

01:48:10.000 I think he is a spook. 1.00

01:48:12.000 And I don't trust him even slightly to carry the movement forward.

01:48:16.000 So I will not be voting for him.

01:48:17.000 And we are going to be fighting that battle.

01:48:19.000 That was one of the reasons that I was against Trump in 24.

01:48:22.000 Once he chose Vance, I said, I'm out.

01:48:25.000 Like that was the thing that did it for me officially because they're already trying to get Vance to run in 28.

01:48:31.000 And social media seems to be more pro-Vance than it is pro-Trump on the right-wing side.

01:48:36.000 Like people are being paid to be more pro-Vance than pro-Trump and they're astroturfing that.

01:48:41.000 I talked to Vance.

01:48:41.000 He was nice, told me the crazy part, like three months before they announced him, I've been to Detroit, go back to the rain room.

01:48:47.000 He's there.

01:48:47.000 And he goes, I go, I hear you're probably, you might be the nominee.

01:48:50.000 He goes, I already got it.

01:48:51.000 And I was just there like, so you're the, he goes, yeah, I'm a nominee.

01:48:56.000 And I was like, okay, I didn't even go say it later because I didn't want to, but like very confident.

01:49:03.000 Like he didn't tell me, don't tell people.

01:49:04.000 He said, no, I've got the nomination.

01:49:08.000 That's pretty wild.

01:49:11.000 Yeah, I had heard that rumor pretty early on.

01:49:15.000 And yeah, it was just a weird choice because to me, that was so damning because it was supposed to be LaBoy.

01:49:21.000 Why would he tell me?

01:49:22.000 Yeah, I am the nominee.

01:49:24.000 I mean, I was like, and Chase Geyser was right next to me.

01:49:27.000 He saw it.

01:49:29.000 What was the timeline?

01:49:30.000 When did he tell you that?

01:49:31.000 It was whenever TPUSA had me up there to Detroit, like three months before he got announced, whatever it was.

01:49:36.000 Okay, so that was June, June of, yeah, that's interesting because they say Trump didn't make the decision until after he got shot at Butler.

01:49:43.000 Maybe 12 months before.

01:49:44.000 Well, whenever TPUSA was in Detroit.

01:49:47.000 And I was like, I was like, you just told a journalist you're the nominee.

01:49:51.000 And I didn't say it because I was just like, it was so, I walked out of there.

01:49:55.000 I was like, wow, that's really crazy.

01:49:58.000 Probably just trying to get that story out there.

01:50:01.000 So it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

01:50:02.000 If the media is a buzz, oh, Vance told me he's going to be the nominee.

01:50:05.000 Then it's sort of like in House of Cards, you know, but he also was like, oh, we're really going to look into Obama's stay-behind networks, the countering disinformation, foreign propaganda act, all that.

01:50:17.000 So we had a discussion about it.

01:50:18.000 I was like, hey, you got to hit him here.

01:50:20.000 This is the enemy.

01:50:21.000 You got to go after the NGOs.

01:50:22.000 He's like, oh, yeah, don't worry.

01:50:23.000 We are.

01:50:24.000 So our main discussion was about cutting off NGO money.

01:50:26.000 He's like, oh, yeah, we're on that.

01:50:28.000 So I was just, you know, I was just like, oh, wow.

01:50:30.000 I heard you probably the nominee.

01:50:31.000 He goes, oh, I've got it.

01:50:32.000 I'm a nominee.

01:50:34.000 I was just like, that's interesting.

01:50:37.000 True story, folks.

01:50:38.000 Ask Jane Vance, I'll tell you.

01:50:40.000 Jack in Wisconsin, a few more calls with Nick Fuentes.

01:50:43.000 Go ahead, Jack.

01:50:44.000 Hi, I haven't heard either of you bring up the tweet at the time, but now X from Virginia Jeffrey, the Epstein victim.

01:50:54.000 She was trafficked.

01:50:55.000 She cleared Trump and said Trump was good and endorsed him for president.

01:51:01.000 She was recently assassinated.

01:51:02.000 And I think that's a good point that a good person.

01:51:05.000 Yeah, I mean, Nick said an hour ago, we've never seen any evidence of Trump involved.

01:51:10.000 The question is, then why is he covering up?

01:51:13.000 And that's for Israel and the CIA. 0.89

01:51:15.000 Yeah, no, not just her, a bunch of other confirmed victims said they never saw Trump at the island or any of that.

01:51:19.000 But go ahead and make your point, Jack.

01:51:22.000 And my question for you two, kind of on that same line for Mr. Fuentes, is that what do you think if he's holding back the evidence and the release because it has to deal with what other witnesses said dealing with shapeshifters and stuff, transdimensional demons, would it be worth releasing if that type of stuff was also exposed?

01:51:46.000 Yeah, I mean, if it contained something like that, I mean, it would be worth releasing.

01:51:51.000 I don't think that's, I mean, you know, that's one of those things where, you know, if that exists, nobody knows.

01:51:57.000 I mean, we can speculate about maybe it has UFOs and, yeah, transdimensional stuff.

01:52:01.000 Who knows?

01:52:02.000 But I tend to think the more likely explanations are terrestrial, terrestrial in nature, as opposed to supernatural.

01:52:10.000 I was told a year ago and six months ago and two months ago, and I've got all the White House calls and all the way.

01:52:15.000 And I was told early on, it ain't getting released because the CIA and Mossad were running it.

01:52:21.000 I mean, he had billions sucked out of his bank account if he died.

01:52:24.000 So this debate about whether he was intelligence or not, and I don't lessen the human trafficking in young girls, but it was money laundering, weapons.

01:52:32.000 I mean, Epstein was a Mossad agent.

01:52:38.000 Anything else, Jack?

01:52:39.000 Yeah.

01:52:41.000 No, no, I'm a big fan of you both.

01:52:43.000 I was just bringing up how you talked to Tucker before, Alex, about him having hands put on the demon stuff.

01:52:49.000 And I think maybe that was like, maybe it's just too much for people's mind to handle them.

01:52:53.000 Minds would break.

01:52:54.000 No, I hear you, Jack.

01:52:55.000 Well, you know, they did get the footage that James O'Keefe got out.

01:52:58.000 I don't know if you saw it, Nick, but it's like all this black magic stuff and black magic books.

01:53:03.000 Did you see that inside the temple?

01:53:05.000 I did.

01:53:06.000 Yeah, I did.

01:53:06.000 I did see.

01:53:07.000 And they had the whiteboard and everything like that.

01:53:09.000 Yeah, they were all into that stuff.

01:53:11.000 Same thing with spirit cooking.

01:53:14.000 But, you know, I don't know that we can assume that it's because there's magic involved, that that's why they're not releasing it.

01:53:19.000 I mean, who knows?

01:53:21.000 Maybe we'll look like idiots if the, you know, the teleportation devices are revealed, you know, the UFOs come out.

01:53:26.000 Yeah, what do you think of Trump a few months ago in his science head saying we control time and space?

01:53:31.000 What was that?

01:53:33.000 I don't know.

01:53:34.000 Yeah, I did see that.

01:53:35.000 I know what you're talking about, but I wouldn't read too much into that.

01:53:38.000 I, you know, if that stuff is out there, you just can't assume it.

01:53:42.000 You have to logically operate with Octam's razor and say, because who knows?

01:53:47.000 I mean, maybe reality is not as it seems, but our working understanding has to be based on what we have evidence for, as opposed to, you know, maybe reading into these things.

01:53:55.000 It just shows how cuckoo stuff is.

01:53:55.000 I hear you.

01:53:57.000 Sean in Atlanta, the Nick in Arizona, that's ever calls.

01:54:01.000 Go ahead, Sean.

01:54:02.000 Go ahead.

01:54:03.000 Hey, good evening, fellas.

01:54:05.000 Hope you guys are well.

01:54:06.000 Just want to say Christ is King.

01:54:07.000 Mary is the mother of God.

01:54:09.000 We pray for the conversion of the Jews, all heretics and infidels. 1.00

01:54:14.000 Okay, that was it.

01:54:16.000 Well, that was a good call.

01:54:18.000 He yelled for like an hour to say that, Nick.

01:54:21.000 Wow.

01:54:22.000 Based.

01:54:23.000 Yeah, very based.

01:54:24.000 We're glad we got that out of the way.

01:54:25.000 We should have started with that at the beginning.

01:54:27.000 All right.

01:54:28.000 Nick in Arizona, you're a telegunner.

01:54:30.000 Go ahead.

01:54:32.000 That last guy is going to be hard to follow.

01:54:36.000 No, I'd like to ask you.

01:54:38.000 It seems to me like the fundamental structure of the country has just absolutely collapsed.

01:54:44.000 It's nowhere near what the founding fathers had in mind for the structure.

01:54:49.000 We're too heavily dependent on the executive branch, and we keep hoping for a Hail Mary, someone to come in there, our hero, you know, to go in there and totally reshape something that I just think is not fixable.

01:55:03.000 Is it maybe time to start thinking of some different options of now that we have this movement, these people have moved around during COVID, looking for more freedom?

01:55:14.000 People with like-minded ideas are more concentrated in different parts of the country.

01:55:19.000 I'd like your thoughts on maybe perhaps some sort of secessionist movement, what that would look like if that's a viable option.

01:55:26.000 All right, Nick, thanks for the call.

01:55:27.000 Nick Fundes, in closing, people are dumbed out on average.

01:55:32.000 People are disconnected from reality.

01:55:33.000 They don't know how to take care of themselves.

01:55:37.000 Just big picture.

01:55:38.000 What is your vision for humanity?

01:55:40.000 Are you optimistic or how do you see things going?

01:55:44.000 Big picture, I think that we are about to enter a period of remarkable instability and change because of technology, the changing world order, the rise of China. 0.96

01:55:54.000 And that means things are inherently unpredictable.

01:55:56.000 It's like a Pandora's box.

01:55:57.000 So I am very not optimistic about the near term.

01:56:02.000 I think that between the new technology, which has dual use, the drones, the autonomous systems, the AI, I think it is going to be a miracle if we get on the other side of this next decade without a cataclysm, a cataclysmic world war, a nuclear war, an AI war.

01:56:19.000 You know, we are really on the cusp of something that could be truly horrifying.

01:56:23.000 So, you know, I think if in closing, I guess big, big picture, like super big picture, people need to zoom out because there's this big focus on race and religion.

01:56:34.000 There's a big focus on, you know, Republicans and Democrats.

01:56:37.000 But the big picture that no one's talking about is we are on the cusp of something we don't even understand, how it's going to affect mankind in every way, shape, and form.

01:56:46.000 It's a true revolution.

01:56:47.000 And so it's not to say those other things aren't important.

01:56:50.000 They are, but it is causing people to take their eye off the ball that we something is big is around the corner and I just want to survive.

01:56:58.000 You know, so you got to think in terms of what is durable, what is going to last, how to stay safe, because, you know, the next few years are going to be remarkably destabilizing.

01:57:08.000 And when that happens, you typically get violence, famine, war.

01:57:12.000 It reminds me very much of like the turn of the last century.

01:57:15.000 So people really got to steal themselves, keep their faith in God is the most important thing anchored in that.

01:57:21.000 Get some friends, get networked up, get some valuable, durable goods, you know, like gold, like Bitcoin, like, you know, stuff like that, and buckle up because I think it's really going to get a little shaky in the next few years.

01:57:34.000 But if we're smart and play our cards right, a crisis can be an opportunity.

01:57:38.000 There's risk and opportunity involved in a crisis.

01:57:41.000 So I agree with you.

01:57:42.000 So in closing, do you think does Trump get impeached if the Democrats win the House?

01:57:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:57:50.000 I think that is almost a guarantee at this point.

01:57:52.000 If I had to put money on it, that's what I'd say.

01:57:54.000 And I'm not telling people to do that like on polymarket, but I think that's what's going to happen.

01:57:58.000 Yeah.

01:57:59.000 All right.

01:58:00.000 So in congressional hearings about Epstein, does Trump keep doubling down?

01:58:05.000 I mean, how bad does that get?

01:58:08.000 How Trump plays it is up to him, but I don't see him.

01:58:11.000 If he hasn't done anything different yet, I don't think he'll do something different in the future.

01:58:16.000 So I think he'll try to punt it.

01:58:18.000 I think he'll try to pass the hot potato.

01:58:20.000 And I think it's just going to become a big shit fest, just like the Ukraine thing, the Ukraine call, the Russia gate. 0.96

01:58:26.000 He's never been particularly good at this stuff.

01:58:28.000 So I think it's just going to be a big, ugly mess.

01:58:31.000 Well, the only thing that's going to be underlining is the Q-tards saying he was going to expose all the pedophile rings. 1.00

01:58:31.000 And the whole thing is. 1.00

01:58:37.000 They don't know what to do now with this.

01:58:40.000 Are you sure?

01:58:41.000 They still have their theories.

01:58:42.000 I still get it on X. I still get people saying there is no yellow fringe on the flag today.

01:58:47.000 You know what that means?

01:58:48.000 And we're like, no, what is that?

01:58:50.000 No, they're like, you know, he's going to bust the pedophiles and now they know what to do with this.

01:58:55.000 Right.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, no, that's good.

01:58:57.000 I'm just saying, I think they're so disconnected from reality.

01:59:00.000 I don't even think they're missing a beat.

01:59:02.000 For them, they're just saying like, oh, it's going to happen tomorrow, you know?

01:59:05.000 So, but yeah, that is, that's some upside for us, I guess.

01:59:08.000 Are there any good Republicans for leadership?

01:59:12.000 No, they're all, they're all rotten.

01:59:13.000 They're all bad.

01:59:14.000 I don't like even one of them.

01:59:17.000 So your show is normally 9 p.m. every weeknight.

01:59:17.000 All right.

01:59:21.000 Yes, 9 p.m.

01:59:22.000 Central, Monday through Friday on Rumble.

01:59:25.000 Well, you're simulcasting this, so we're going to go to a promo after this.

01:59:29.000 And I'm going to end this because I've been up since 5 a.m.

01:59:31.000 And I appreciate this discussion and debate.

01:59:34.000 I think we've set the record straight on this.

01:59:36.000 But since it's your show, too, Nick, you go ahead and close it out here with your final statement because you're hosting too.

01:59:42.000 All right.

01:59:43.000 Well, thank you very much.

01:59:44.000 Yeah, it was great.

01:59:45.000 I guess you were having me on.

01:59:47.000 I was having you on.

01:59:48.000 Great conversation.

01:59:49.000 It was really good to have a little back and forth.

01:59:52.000 And it's like you said on X, this is a productive discussion.

01:59:55.000 You know, you've been on the money on this.

01:59:56.000 So have I. So I think it's good to get information out there for the people.

02:00:00.000 But that's going to do it for me.

02:00:01.000 I'm on the air at Monday through Friday.

02:00:03.000 I'll be reading super chats tomorrow.

02:00:05.000 Check out Fuentes.store, AmericaFirst.plus.

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02:00:12.000 So check it out.

02:00:13.000 And for those that are watching on my end, I'll see you guys tomorrow.

02:00:17.000 But thanks, Alex.

02:00:18.000 Great joining you tonight.

02:00:19.000 I'll talk to you later as well.

02:00:21.000 All right.

02:00:21.000 Have a great night.

02:00:22.000 Yeah.

02:00:22.000 Thank you.

02:00:22.000 And the same goes, whether you agree with Nick or not, or whether you agree with me or not, you want independent media, support at thealximator.com.

02:00:28.000 Crew, great job.

02:00:29.000 Great discussion, great debate.

02:00:31.000 And we're praying Trump course corrects.

02:00:34.000 But all I can do is tell you what I really think.

02:00:36.000 And better than Democrats, but that's not enough.

02:00:39.000 So we got to hold Trump's feet in the fire.

02:00:42.000 I'm not ready to throw him out like Nick is, but I am extremely concerned.

02:00:48.000 Extremely concerned.

02:00:50.000 But Trump's weakness is our weakness.

02:00:52.000 It's just the weakness of what we've become.

02:00:54.000 And we got to be stronger.

02:00:56.000 We got to get the truth out.

02:00:57.000 All right.

02:00:58.000 Harrison Smith, 8 a.m. tomorrow.

02:01:00.000 That's in nine hours from now.

02:01:03.000 I'll be on 11 a.m.

02:01:04.000 Oh, Detroit at 3 p.m.

02:01:04.000 Central.

02:01:06.000 Thank you so much for your support.

02:01:07.000 God bless and good luck.

02:01:08.000 All the guests, dozens of them, that have taken it within 45 minutes to an hour have varying degrees from extreme energy and feeling really great to fog lifting to just over the top crying.

02:01:18.000 Cleans out the cells, just does incredible things.

02:01:18.000 It feels so good.

02:01:21.000 RFK Jr. loves it.

02:01:22.000 We've got the strongest Old Mental Empire. 1.00

02:01:24.000 But he's going on Owen in about 30 minutes because my show just ended and I forgot to do this.

02:01:28.000 Don't forget when he's on Owen to tell us what he felt.

02:01:31.000 And if he doesn't feel it, we'll put that out.

02:01:34.000 So sure, go ahead and take a half drop or so.

02:01:35.000 That's about a half dose.

02:01:36.000 And then go ahead and shut that down.

02:01:39.000 And then we're going to find out what happens to you.

02:01:41.000 We'll see.

02:01:42.000 Most people, it hits within about 30 minutes for speaking after a couple hours.

02:01:45.000 But just tell people what you think.

02:01:47.000 And if you don't feel it, we're going to tell everybody.

02:01:50.000 20 minutes later.

02:01:52.000 I can feel a definite, like an energy spike.

02:01:54.000 Yeah, it feels pretty good.

02:01:55.000 What are you going to do now?

02:01:57.000 Or energy spike?

02:01:58.000 I'm going to see if it has a crash.

02:02:00.000 I've never heard of a crash.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, apparently it doesn't.

02:02:02.000 But yeah, it feels pretty good.

02:02:03.000 Yeah, definitely feels sharper.

02:02:05.000 Okay.

02:02:05.000 Yeah, I was pretty tired coming in here.

02:02:06.000 Oh, really?

02:02:07.000 Well, you're running around Texas right now.

02:02:09.000 You're dealing with some other issues.

02:02:10.000 I was driving all over Texas giving speeches for True Texas Project.

02:02:13.000 So did he give you the drink or the capsules?

02:02:15.000 I took the drink, but I got a bottle of each, and I'm going to go and do a longer-term test.

02:02:20.000 We'll see how it goes.

02:02:21.000 Yeah, I do feel kind of amped right now.

02:02:21.000 Okay.

02:02:23.000 Several weeks later.

02:02:23.000 Yeah.

02:02:25.000 You just saw an ad for Methylene Blue.

02:02:28.000 You were here a few weeks ago, and I do this with every guest, more than 50 of them now.

02:02:33.000 Every person has had clarity, energy, a fog lift is the most common.

02:02:38.000 But what's really good is the long-term effects for your stamina, your energy, your libido, how hard you can work out.

02:02:43.000 It's amazing.

02:02:44.000 So I had forgotten when he was coming in, we gave him a bottle because he loved it.

02:02:48.000 I had forgotten to ask you if you listened to it long-term.

02:02:48.000 Almost gone.

02:02:53.000 So just briefly, tell people the short-term effect.

02:02:57.000 And then now a few weeks later, the long-term effect.

02:03:00.000 Yeah, it gives you a good energy boost.

02:03:01.000 I use it before I work out.

02:03:03.000 So if I'm going to be doing kettlebell workouts, I do some methylene blue about a half hour before.

02:03:08.000 And it just gives you mental focus.

02:03:10.000 I don't crash afterwards.

02:03:12.000 I need some more.

02:03:12.000 That's good stuff.

02:03:14.000 Well, give me some.

02:03:15.000 How fast did it kick in?

02:03:17.000 About 15, 20 minutes.

02:03:19.000 Take about a half hour before I work out.

02:03:21.000 And then you're saying you're almost out of the bottle.

02:03:22.000 Was that three weeks ago?

02:03:24.000 A month ago?

02:03:24.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:03:25.000 You gave me the liquid and the pills too.

02:03:27.000 You're almost out of both.

02:03:28.000 Yeah, almost out of both.

02:03:29.000 Oh, my goodness.

02:03:30.000 Well, all right.

02:03:31.000 I'll give you more.

02:03:32.000 For the audience, we can't give it to everybody.

02:03:33.000 We need your support at the authorstory.com.

02:03:35.000 For me personally, the first week I got on it, now four or five months ago, I actually sort of hurt myself because the workouts were so crazy.

02:03:43.000 My trainer goes, Dude, what's going on?

02:03:44.000 Like three days into it, I don't know.

02:03:45.000 I just, I was like lifting way more, going way harder.

02:03:48.000 And then I got really exhausted after about a week because the same thing happened to Rob Dew, who's a great long-distance, you know, bike rider.

02:03:54.000 So he's quite the athlete.

02:03:56.000 He said he was biking so hard up hills and stuff that he actually had to pull over because, you know, his heart was going crazy.

02:04:02.000 I mean, this stuff's wild.

02:04:05.000 I like it better than doing like a five-hour energy shot because those will make you crash afterwards.

02:04:05.000 Yeah, it's good.

02:04:09.000 This doesn't have the crash.

02:04:10.000 So you've had no crash.

02:04:12.000 It's not a stimulant.

02:04:13.000 It just skips the oxidization process somehow.

02:04:16.000 So I've been using it while I'm out there doing search and rescue.

02:04:19.000 Well, I'm almost out.

02:04:20.000 You're saying you love it for working out.

02:04:21.000 Has it gotten better over time or what long-term thing have you felt?

02:04:24.000 Or if nothing?

02:04:25.000 Well, I think the main thing is, is it gives me a better workout, and that has good results over time.

02:04:31.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:04:32.000 That's what I found without even knowing.

02:04:33.000 Yeah.

02:04:34.000 And then O'Keefe's like, oh, it made my vision better.

02:04:37.000 And Rob Dew goes, we have a bunch of callers already saying that.

02:04:39.000 Did you see these studies about it like curing glaucoma?

02:04:42.000 And I'm not going to say, we're not selling it's a drug.

02:04:43.000 I'm not saying it's going to do that.

02:04:44.000 I'm like, God, this stuff's crazy.

02:04:46.000 No, they don't want you to know about it.

02:04:47.000 It's like avermectic.

02:04:48.000 Right, exactly.

02:04:49.000 Old school stuff.

02:04:50.000 But you can't take it of your own SSRIs.

02:04:53.000 And folks, it's so strong.

02:04:54.000 Talk to your doctor first.

02:04:55.000 It's just not a game.

02:04:55.000 Ours is really strong.

02:04:57.000 If you'll just try it, you'll be hooked.

02:04:59.000 And we can fund the operation.

02:05:00.000 It's a win-win.

02:05:01.000 We'll be right back with Stuart Rhodes.

02:05:02.000 We'll be right back.

02:05:08.000 I'll say this.

02:05:09.000 See, this is the beauty when we deal with actual facts.

02:05:12.000 I'll go straight to the United States government policy.

02:05:14.000 You have what's called the National Security Study Memorandum 200, also known as NSSM 200, which was authorized, written under Dr. Henry Kissinger, who was the 32nd Secretary of State under President Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

02:05:25.000 Pardon me, documentation.

02:05:27.000 Now, this is all we go straight to what the U.S. government has stated.

02:05:30.000 He stated, quote, depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the third world, end quote.

02:05:38.000 They literally stated in this documentation that we need to get rid of two to three billion people on planet Earth.

02:05:45.000 Outside of that, you have something called Global 2000, which was also authorized under Jimmy Carter, outlining how food can be used as a weapon.

02:05:52.000 Outside of that, you have someone by the name of Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was a former advisor to President Jimmy Carter, who stated, quote, in earlier times, it was easier to control a million people than to physically kill a million people.

02:06:05.000 He said, but now it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than it is to control, end quote.

02:06:11.000 It was easier to control a million people.

02:06:13.000 Literally, it was easier to control a million people than physically to kill a million people.

02:06:21.000 Today, it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control.

02:06:27.000 So what you're dealing with is the food, the air, the water, reproductive services planned, parenthood, and all these different arenas are being used to go towards an effort of getting rid of human beings, black, white, and all in between, by the billions. 0.91

02:06:43.000 I asked, well, what is going to happen to those people that we can't re-educate, that are die-hard capitalists?

02:06:51.000 And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated.

02:06:55.000 And when I pursued this further, they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers.

02:07:03.000 And when I say eliminate, I mean kill.

02:07:06.000 The negative impact of population growth on all of our planetary ecosystems is becoming appallingly evident.

02:07:16.000 Now, the world today has 6.8 billion people.

02:07:19.000 That's headed up to about 9 billion.

02:07:21.000 Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%.

02:07:30.000 But at this point, they are looking at the reality that people are waking up too fast.

02:07:34.000 They didn't expect us to wake up too fast, hence social media being a problem, a gift and a curse.

02:07:40.000 I've studied the pieces.

02:07:41.000 We've got the owner's manual.

02:07:43.000 We've got the blueprint.

02:07:44.000 And let me tell you, it ain't pretty.

02:07:46.000 UN climate change official says we should, quote, make every effort to depopulate the planet, close quote.

02:07:53.000 There is pressure in the system to go towards that.

02:07:55.000 We should do everything possible to carry that out.

02:07:58.000 I mean, these people are totalitarians.

02:08:00.000 It's eugenics. 0.99

02:08:01.000 It's depopulation program.

02:08:03.000 That's why this is the biggest subject that we could possibly cover.

02:08:06.000 It's the reality.

02:08:08.000 And so you think about that, and you think about what's going on long and hard.

02:08:11.000 You better look into it, folks.

02:08:13.000 You better find out it's real, okay?

02:08:15.000 You think you're freaked out by this?

02:08:17.000 I know why a lot of you are in denial.

02:08:18.000 So now that we're waking up so quickly, they didn't expect the masses of humanity to rise up, wake up, become aware of what this government's agenda is.

02:08:27.000 And because of that, now they're trying to figure out exactly how to get rid of people.

02:08:30.000 They said these white folks is waking up.

02:08:32.000 They're coming against us, their government.

02:08:34.000 Black folks waking up.

02:08:35.000 They're coming against us.

02:08:36.000 So now at this point, they're like, well, just get rid of them all.

02:08:45.000 I'm only as strong as you are backing me.

02:08:48.000 Have you figured it out yet?

02:08:49.000 This is not like a regular show.

02:08:51.000 The bad guys don't like it for a reason because we have the information and we have the spirit of victory.

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