Alex Jones is joined by Nick Jay Fuentez on his show to discuss the Epstein/Trump conspiracy theory. Alex explains why he thinks Trump is the only person with enough information to prove that Epstein is a crook. Alex also explains why the ADL and the DNC don t want Alex Jones on their show.
00:00:35.000But people taking what I've said out of context when I'm wargaming this, because I think they would have used information against Trump if they had it before.
00:00:46.000With that said now, the jury's out on Trump.
00:00:48.000The jury's in on the Democrats and Epstein Island and Bill Gates and Larry Summers and all the rest of it.
00:03:09.000I've said Trump's acting insanely guilty.
00:03:13.000And I've only wargamed every angle of this trying to figure out what's going on because I do a four-hour show and the Democrats ran stuff nationwide saying I've turned on Trump 23 days ago.
00:03:28.000I don't care about being on CNN and ABC and NPR and every other channel.
00:03:32.000Those people don't listen to me anyways.
00:03:34.000But they take little 10-second clips out of context.
00:04:49.000So this is one of the few issues where I will tell listeners, I don't know.
00:04:55.000And all I can do is wargame each scenario.
00:04:58.000And I would just ask people to realize, if you see a 30-second club, actually go see what I said because I will then say something completely different because I'm wargaming and don't know.
00:05:09.000So Nick is simulcast on Rumble, Nick J. Fuentes and on X. Great to have you, Nick.
00:06:15.000They say that for the MAGA base, which I consider myself a part of, even though I didn't vote for Trump on the demographic, if the MAGA base is in revolt over the Epstein files, people say, are you throwing out the baby with the bathwater?
00:06:31.000What about the progress that's being made, as you say, by RFK Jr., by Tulsi Gabbard, the good things that are happening at the administration?
00:06:39.000In other words, people say if he's failing on one narrow issue like Epstein, which people say realistically doesn't actually affect people's daily lives, they say, is that a mistake?
00:06:51.000Now, my position is that you can't compartmentalize these issues.
00:06:54.000Contrary to that take or that defense, I don't think you're capable.
00:06:59.000I don't think it's possible to separate and cordon off the Epstein issue and say that's over here and immigration and foreign policy and the rest of it is over there.
00:07:09.000Because the proposition of the first Trump campaign going back 10 years ago in 2016, or even in 2015, when Trump ran in the primary, he said that the reason that our politicians had failed us over 30 years on both sides, Republican side, Democrat side, the right and the left, he said is not for a lack of trying, not for lack of will.
00:07:31.000He said it's because the system has failed us.
00:07:34.000They can't deliver a real victory because they're not beholden to the people.
00:07:39.000Instead, they're beholden to foreign interests, special interests, donors, political PACs.
00:07:45.000And there was a suggestion of blackmail.
00:07:48.000There's a suggestion of a shadow operation happening behind the scenes.
00:07:54.000So why do we get these policies that are bad for America, like free trade, foreign wars, mass migration?
00:08:00.000They said, well, it's because the politicians are not really the ones running the country.
00:08:04.000They're not running the country on behalf of the voters or the people, but rather they're being controlled by the money or the intelligence agencies or by some shadow element, the nature of which we don't fully understand.
00:08:17.000Now, he said, in contravention of all of this, I will run and I will deliver the real victories.
00:08:24.000I will reverse all the policies because I'm not controlled by those interests.
00:08:28.000And there was this foil with him and Hillary Clinton.
00:08:31.000Hillary Clinton personified that system.
00:08:34.000And she did come from the Democrat side, but she personified realistically both sides, the Bush dynasty, the Clinton dynasty, the Republicans, the Democrats, the Dennis Hasterts, and the Bill Clintons.
00:08:46.000Hillary Clinton was the epitome of corruption and the epitome of globalism.
00:08:50.000And so at 16, you have this proposition of, I'm going to run with no foreign influence, no blackmail.
00:08:56.000I'm going to fight the corruption and then deliver the victory.
00:08:59.000Now, fast forward 10 years later, and Trump seems to be covering up what is really the scandal of all scandals.
00:09:17.000And you say, if Trump is covering that up, we lose faith in him.
00:09:21.000He loses all credibility as that leader, as that Caesar-like leader, this once-in-a-generation figure leading a once-in-a-generation populist movement.
00:10:27.000We might state it simply to entertain it.
00:10:30.000If the pro-Trump side is saying, if their argument is, well, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
00:10:35.000The Epstein thing is a narrow, singular issue.
00:10:38.000If that's the primary defense, I would have to say it's not good enough because if he's named in these files, then everything is compromised.
00:10:46.000Everything is touched and poisoned by the corruption.
00:10:49.000And when this cover-up is going on, unfortunately, we cannot assume that he is not touched by it.
00:10:55.000We actually have to draw a negative inference.
00:11:17.000But when he has covered it up in the way that he has, and as he's dug this hole deeper and deeper, having the DOJ cover it up, asking the FBI to look for his name, they told him his name was in there.
00:11:30.000Now he says his name was planted in there.
00:11:58.000And I think the very nature of these types of cover-ups, the nature of the opacity, the fact that it's opaque, the fact that we cannot see through it, the fact that it's been covered up and there's been a deception, there's been an active cover-up, an attempt to change the subject and lie about the nature of it.
00:12:15.000We actually have to draw a negative inference and we actually have to assume that there is something damning in there.
00:12:40.000A lot of people wonder if Trump is failing, or that's the perception on many of these issues, like the foreign policy, like immigration, like the Epstein cover-up.
00:13:17.000It's actually worse to take a half measure because if you come at the king and you miss, all you do is make the king mad.
00:13:25.000And the king has an army and the king has power.
00:13:28.000So if Trump, and when I say the king, of course, I'm not even referring to Trump.
00:13:32.000I'm referring to this left-wing political system.
00:13:35.000If Trump has been coming at the king for 10 years with the 16 campaign, with January 6th, with the revenge campaign in 24, if that is a 10-year campaign going after the king and he's missing over and over, failing to purge the bureaucracy, failing to implement Project 2025, failing to fire 50,000 employees, have the mass deportations.
00:13:59.000If it's this slow, if it's so unambitious, if he's already compromising and walking back and people are having to come up with defenses for it, well, what are we doing?
00:14:08.000All we're doing is pissing off the people that really run the world.
00:14:12.000And if you miss, they get the next reply and they're going to come after all of us hard.
00:14:18.000Trump, you, me, the supporters, the people in the administration.
00:14:23.000We learned that the hard way after January 6th.
00:14:26.000You know, in a way, we kind of already did this in the first term.
00:14:28.000Trump came at the king, was not equipped, did not have the personnel, did not have the expertise.
00:14:34.000There's arguments about what went wrong, but needless to say, it didn't work.
00:14:37.000And so they came back and it was revenge of the Sith.
00:14:42.000They came down hard with the vaccine mandate, with the DOJ on the J Sixers, with your law fair, with the law fair against Ricky Vaughn, against many people.
00:15:24.000I would argue if we didn't hit the ground running, if we don't come at it with seriousness and guns blazing, if we're playing catch up six months in, a year out of the midterms, it's not going to happen.
00:15:38.000They'll throw up roadblocks like they did before.
00:15:40.000And what's going to happen is when we run out the clock at the end of this term, it's going to be the same thing, except the left is going to come back even harder and even more severe.
00:15:49.000And I question then, what good were the half measures if all they did was invite this reprisal?
00:15:54.000So that's why I really am an extreme skeptic.
00:20:04.000If Trump doesn't go to full war and actually do something, then by extension, he's giving it to the bad guys.
00:20:13.000And so I think really, at the end of the day, it's all about action because America will forgive him for whatever this is if he backs away from it and indicts them for other things they've done that are cut and dry.
00:20:23.000But if they don't, but that's a whole other discussion, Nick.
00:20:27.000Let's talk about what Trump should do, but also what is the way out of this?
00:22:00.000But what was less concerning to me about Kamala against all of that is that she was a lot less stable.
00:22:06.000And not by that, I don't mean mentally.
00:22:08.000I mean that she had no legitimacy as a ruler because she didn't win the Democrat primary fair and square and never did.
00:22:15.000She didn't, nobody would believe she won the general election.
00:22:18.000If she won, no one would accept that that was a fair and square deal.
00:22:22.000And so the regime would have been a lot less stable and would have had a lot less leeway.
00:22:26.000What I fear with Trump is that he has this cult-like status within the GOP.
00:22:31.000And when you look at the approval ratings over the past month, he has been declining with independents.
00:22:37.000He's hit a low with Democrats as always.
00:22:40.000But his approval with Republicans has been remarkably stable.
00:22:43.000It's been stabilized at just under 90% approval, even in spite of everything, in spite of bombing Iran, in spite of floating the amnesty deal, in spite of the Epstein files.
00:22:54.000And so you say to yourself, where do we go from here?
00:23:28.000And you can see that he can't handle it.
00:23:30.000You can see that it is a crackup, that he cannot handle these questions.
00:23:35.000And you watch these press conferences, these interviews.
00:23:37.000It's extraordinary the way he keeps digging, the way he gets asked about it and puts his foot in his mouth with this sort of, oh, well, we need to just stop thinking about that.
00:24:26.000And what's more is, and we talked about this the last time, there's this exuberance.
00:24:31.000And that really scared me when he came into office.
00:24:34.000And by scared, I don't want to sound like a resistance liberal or something, you know, but a year ago, I was concerned about this Trojan horse thing.
00:24:41.000He's going to take all the Republicans with him.
00:24:43.000Anything he'll do will have his imprimatur of credibility.
00:24:46.00090% of Republicans will support it no matter what.
00:24:50.000But then he gets into office, then he wins the election.
00:24:53.000And you see a Trump that is unchained, where he's like, we're going to take Canada.
00:25:49.000You know, and by the way, the people that are at the FBI, it's Cash Patel, it's Dan Bongino, it's Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., Elon Musk was on The team.
00:26:00.000So you would say, who would he call to get him out of the mess?
00:26:04.000Who would be the dream team personnel that could steer the ship away from the rocks?
00:26:13.000You know, if we're thinking about MAGA personnel that you could plug in that could solve the problem that represents the base, could you do much better than Cash Patel and Dan Bongino?
00:28:22.000So you get this idea that it's like this swirling crazy town.
00:28:27.000And you have last week, the CI director at that meeting they had, the cabinet meeting, and Ratcliffe literally leans back and goes, like demoning out in the meeting.
00:28:43.000And I'm just like, I'm like literally looking at places to run to in the southern hemisphere for nuclear war.
00:28:49.000And I'm not the type of guy that runs.
00:30:00.000And look, he's going to be the president for the next few years and he will deliver some tangible benefits.
00:30:07.000It's not all bad from a policy point of view.
00:30:10.000He has closed the border and maybe there can be some effort that's being made on debanking and free speech.
00:30:16.000I would say that is one of the great net positives, even though he didn't even really deliver that.
00:30:21.000I would argue that was more Elon Musk.
00:30:23.000Actually, with Trump, it's the reverse.
00:30:25.000They're going to bring back TikTok, but now there's going to be censorship.
00:30:28.000And I don't know if you saw, but they just negotiated this deal where they're going to have a new footnotes feature on TikTok where it's like a fact check.
00:30:35.000It's like the fake news thing that Facebook did.
00:30:37.000So, you know, there may be some more leeway in terms of free speech.
00:30:42.000I've heard there might be some better regulations for debanking.
00:31:34.000And there are people like you and I that are benefiting from the free speech renaissance on Rumble, on X. We will benefit from that and from the debanking regulations.
00:31:44.000But separately, at the same time, we have to start to imagine, to your point, that question, what do you want?
00:31:53.000Because when he leaves office and most likely pardons himself, you and I will still be here picking up the pieces.
00:32:00.000And even to the extent that we criticize Trump or have criticized Trump, it will make no difference when the left persecutes us.
00:32:07.000So even though I didn't vote for him, even though you've been fair and objective and critical, it will make no difference when the Democrats come in and clap back on all of us, on the entire right wing, and we will not get a presidential pardon.
00:32:19.000So we'll be sweeping up after him one way or the other.
00:32:22.000We have to start to think, what is our lives?
00:34:48.000But now the right is also disintegrating due to the contradictions of Trumpism.
00:34:53.000So it's like Trump has killed the left.
00:34:55.000He's also now killing the right, such that on the left, you have this progressive liberal split.
00:35:01.000On the right, you have a split now with the Silicon Valley people hopping off, the anti-war people hopping off, the Q conspiracy people hopping off.
00:35:11.000And now that Elon is talking about a third party, an America party that's based on center-right common sense policy, it's going to be free speech, H-1Bs, this sort of thing.
00:37:17.000The fact that he thought they could put a memo out, which he wrote, which he had written, which I told people day one, they said, oh, you're a traitor.
00:40:54.000I think with me, I never had an operation as big as yours.
00:40:59.000We get into it at different times and different circumstances and things like that.
00:41:03.000I think what they fear about me, and I've seen it even on TikTok the other day, there was like this liberal kid and he goes, the left is not talking about the rise of Nick Fuentes and that's a problem.
00:41:13.000The left is starting to like Nick Fuentes because he criticizes Trump.
00:41:19.000But what they fear about me is that what I am proposing is a novel and truly reactionary alternative to what we get even from the GOP.
00:41:31.000You know, in 16, they used to say, and maybe you remember this, but in 15 and 16, they would say they hated Ted Cruz more than Trump because they said Ted Cruz was a true believer.
00:41:44.000Now, I don't think that's true, but there is this premise that they never feared Trump as much because they recognized that Trump was a deal maker, would make concessions.
00:41:53.000They recognized that Trump was not an ideologue.
00:41:55.000He really was a demagogue the whole time by definition.
00:41:58.000Whereas me, my movement, being very young, being very fanatical and being very radical, we do represent a threat in the sense that when all of these fake ideologies disintegrate, what is going to be the strongest ship?
00:43:51.000The other distinct possibility, which I think is very likely, is like you said, there was a deal with Israel that his allies would be hurt by this.
00:43:59.000Maybe people like Peter Thiel, people like Netanyahu.
00:44:02.000Maybe there's unknown people, people yet undisclosed in the files.
00:44:07.000It would be destabilizing for the political order.
00:44:10.000And for the same reason, he didn't lock up Hillary Clinton.
00:44:13.000It's sort of a handshake with the shadow government, with the deep state, with this international cabal, whether it's Israel or the CIA, really a difference without a distinction.
00:44:24.000There was a handshake to just avoid pandemonium, to avoid a kind of Me Too level extinction event for a certain class of the elites.
00:44:33.000It's the same reason it's telling Nancy Pelosi came out and said, we should not release the files.
00:44:39.000Now, why would Nancy Pelosi and Trump agree on something like this?
00:44:43.000It's probably because it's for the sake of political order or because they both have something to hide and they don't want to have the scandal.
00:44:50.000So I think that those are the distinct possibilities.
00:45:07.000Because my prediction, as I said 24 days ago, is this has doom written all over it.
00:45:13.000They are going to go all the way to the wall with this.
00:45:16.000And if Trump doesn't release all the Epstein files and go after the deep state for Crossfire Hurricane, I want your take on that too.
00:45:24.000And all this talk about treason charges and things, then he's doomed because whoever convinced him or himself to sign on to the Epstein cover-up, he has now become everything he claimed he was against.
00:46:06.000I think they're going to keep pushing it, you know, because this is the first scandal that's really hurt Trump.
00:46:10.000All the other stuff nobody really believed, the Russia gate, the Stormy Daniels.
00:46:14.000For the most part, that never left a mark because there was this assumption among the base that, look, the left is going to lie about Trump.
00:46:37.000And now that the left has found something that is so effective, super effective, they're just going to hit this all day long.
00:46:44.000Now, fortunately for Trump, there's this summer recess for the Congress so they can punt this.
00:46:50.000I don't know that that was even the best idea because when the Congress reconvenes, guess what they're going to do?
00:46:55.000They're once again going to force the issue.
00:46:57.000So we're going to pick up in September in the next legislative session on this.
00:47:02.000And it's going to happen simultaneous with the General Assembly of the United Nations, where they're going to recognize Palestine.
00:47:09.000It's going to happen simultaneous with the deadline for another Iran nuclear deal.
00:47:14.000And this is going to happen as Congress comes back and they're going to force a vote on Thomas Massey and the Democrats' resolution to get all the files unsealed from the DOJ on Epstein.
00:47:24.000And this is where, you know, I started to say this earlier.
00:47:28.000The conventional wisdom would say he's going to pull out of this.
00:47:32.000People will, they're going to stop paying attention to it.
00:47:43.000It's a dreadful feeling that it's just going to be one shoe to drop after the next.
00:47:48.000It's like 50 shoes are going to drop after this.
00:47:51.000And we're going to hurtle into the midterms and it's going to be an issue.
00:47:54.000Then we're going to open up the Republican presidential primary and it's going to be an issue.
00:47:59.000And they're going to be hitting this from here until the next election.
00:48:02.000America First Populist salvage something.
00:48:07.000Whether we abandon Trump or not, folks, this looks bad.
00:48:10.000What do we do to continue our America First policy and extricate ourselves from this?
00:48:18.000I think we need to use this as an opportunity.
00:48:21.000I really believe we need to, this is an historic opportunity in the way that maybe even Trump wasn't to go further than Trump because Trump was able to go so far because people were so angry with what they were getting from both sides.
00:50:17.000Well, you know, last week they did this Turning Point struggle session on Israel.
00:50:22.000And what I said on my show is that for many years, back in 2019, I came at Turning Point USA as a critic from the right.
00:50:31.000Turning Point was considered the rightmost youth organization in the country.
00:50:35.000And they were the gladiators against the left.
00:50:38.000They were the most pro-Trump, the most right-wing.
00:50:40.000Then here comes the Groipers that are saying, you're not right-wing enough on the social issues, on immigration, on identity, and in particular, on Israel.
00:50:50.000And their first response back in 19 was to ban us.
00:51:25.000And last week, they had to hold this struggle session where they are very aware of this problem that at their events, they have people crying out for something that is truly America first, that is authentic, that's going to call out Israel.
00:51:38.000And so they host this session where they're basically trying to mediate and they're sort of putting themselves in this position like they have power over the conversation.
00:51:48.000The youth are already super far right.
00:51:50.000They come in and say, we're going to mediate this transition to the far right as if they control that at all, as if they have any say.
00:51:58.000And so they bring in all their Chapter leaders, they bring in some of the members of their organization, and they have this, what is supposed to be a focus group where they have an honest conversation about Israel.
00:52:10.000And one by one, you know, Charlie Kirk says, when you say Israel, what's the first thing that comes to mind?
00:52:17.000And one by one, the chapter leaders of Turning Point USA, the biggest right-wing campus group, they say the first word that comes to mind, Mossad, genocide, AIPAC, foreign lobbying, foreign wars, things that were unthinkable six years ago, things that almost nobody was talking about six, seven years ago, six, seven.
00:52:38.000And Charlie Kirk is there basically trying to mediate this and say, well, you know, you don't hate Israel.
00:52:44.000You just have some moderate criticisms.
00:56:39.000So, you know, to me, this is really paradoxical.
00:56:43.000And all I can do is just tell listeners what I'm seeing and say, this is what I'm seeing because something this complex, I don't have the answers to.
00:56:51.000But, you know, we have to have a larger discussion about what are we going to do if Trump has a heart attack next week.
00:57:00.000I mean, what would the Democrat, let me ask you this, Nick.
00:57:03.000What would have happened last year in Butler if Trump got his head blown off?
00:57:10.000Well, I think that Nikki Haley would have taken the nomination, to tell you the truth, because Trump, you know, at Butler, he had not yet chosen a VP.
00:57:19.000The only other person in the primary with any delegates was Nikki Haley.
00:57:23.000There would have been an open convention at the RNC.
00:57:27.000And of course, and the reason I say this is because, look, I mean, there would have been pandemonium.
00:57:30.000I mean, there would have been who even knows, maybe riots, maybe violence, maybe something like this.
00:57:35.000But without a doubt, there would be this unbelievable mandate that'd be like, get a Republican in and declare martial law.
00:57:42.000But the question is, who would that fall to?
00:57:44.000And I think it would have been like a Nikki Haley coup or like a Ron DeSantis coup.
00:57:48.000They would have been crowned and propelled by the martyrdom of Trump.
00:57:52.000They would have gotten into office and they would have everything that they're running the playbook right now, they would have done it with a vengeance.
00:58:01.000Well, and, you know, the right, in my opinion, is being empowered right now because of October 7th.
00:58:07.000I think that, you know, when you look at all this anti-left wing action, it is propelled.
00:58:12.000And maybe this is one-dimensional, but this is what I see.
00:58:14.000It is being propelled by the Jewish oligarchy in America that is really, that got woken up by October 7th.
00:58:22.000And that's why you got Bill Ackman saying Harvard is too woke and Sean McGuire is a Trump supporter.
00:58:28.000Like they're driving this big right-wing tilt.
00:58:31.000And it's because they want to crush anti-Semitism and they want to crush Palestine.
00:58:35.000So the paradigm is it's been the main Jewish lobby funding the Islamic invasion because it's anti-Western, and now they suddenly wake up to it.
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01:07:04.000And I don't want to agree with him totally that Trump's done.
01:07:07.000I think there's some chance to extricate this.
01:07:09.000But as I said, three plus weeks ago, before he even came out, this is Trump.
01:07:15.000And going against what he promised to do, the Epstein thing, has created a wedge the Democrats are coming after.
01:07:24.000Without looking at all the other issues and how he's so much better than them on others, and I want to keep the House, I want to keep the Senate.
01:07:32.000And the Democrats are destroying themselves right now.
01:09:17.000And you would really need an intention to flip the script.
01:09:21.000And you would need to say the Epstein files are going out and use them to go after your enemies.
01:09:26.000You know, it's like you said, and we're kind of in agreement on this.
01:09:29.000Even if all of this has happened, if he went after his opponents like Clinton and Obama and Comey and Clapper, and if he raised some of these departments and agencies to the ground and he did the mass deportations, he would be forgiven.
01:09:44.000You know, he's a lame duck and that could cut both ways.
01:09:46.000You could say nothing new can come out of it.
01:09:50.000At the same time, you would say he could kind of burn the house down on his way out, meaning not necessarily destructive, but he could really go for it and he could really go for the institutions and really go for these bad people.
01:10:06.000Pass it to the next person, you know, double it and pass it to Hillary Clinton.
01:10:09.000Why is he caught holding the bag and dying with the Epstein thing?
01:10:13.000So, you know, if I were him and I'm not him, but if I was, and you can kind of see that he's doing this, he's flirting with the idea.
01:10:20.000Take this political football, hunt it, use it to blow up the left, use it to blow up the Democrat side, use it to raise some of these intelligence agencies, use this to split with Israel, you know, and some of this other stuff.
01:10:34.000There's opportunities on the table for him to have like a second wind, like a second act here in this already bad start for the second term.
01:10:44.000I just have no faith that he's going to take it because what that would involve, I don't think he's capable of it.
01:13:20.000I think that Israel messed up when they shot that church and they knew they messed up because even a lot of the big Zionists said, okay, we have a problem.
01:13:28.000You know, you tried to shoot a cross off a church and you clearly missed.
01:13:32.000And there's no excuse for that, especially with everything else that people have been forced to defend and put up with.
01:13:38.000So I think when Mike Huckabee says they're putting pressure on Israel not to attack Christians, I think that's performative.
01:13:46.000And the reason I think it's performative is because, look, Washington holds all the cards with all of it.
01:13:57.000I'm saying, why would Israel be blowing up churches and firebombing ancient Christian settlements when the Protestant Christian Zionists send them billions a year?
01:14:08.000It just shows, let's put it to the next level.
01:14:21.000That church, the cardinal there, Pisabella, he was calling Pope Francis every day as Pope Francis prayed for Gaza.
01:14:29.000And you know the Israelis had to hate that.
01:14:32.000They hate that the Catholic Church is speaking out against the war.
01:14:35.000They hate that every time something happens, the Catholic Church calls for Israel to stop the invasion.
01:14:41.000They hate that Francis was calling the church.
01:14:43.000And so I think, whether it came from the top or whether it was freelancing in the IDF, they said, you know what?
01:14:49.000It's time to, let's take a shot at these Catholics.
01:14:52.000Enough calling for the end of the war, enough praying for the people of Gaza.
01:14:56.000I think they are just totally bloodthirsty and emboldened.
01:14:59.000I think, you know, the way they've been conducting this entire thing with the aid sites, they're clearly emboldened because, you know, whether it's shooting the church, and as a Catholic, I'm mortified.
01:15:10.000But at the same time, they're also murdering and starving people to death while even Trump and the Europeans are telling them, you got to feed these people.
01:15:20.000You're talking about Gaza blowing up the church.
01:15:22.000They're now burning down the West Bank Christian communities.
01:15:29.000Well, and here's my point is I think that the Israelis just don't care.
01:15:33.000You know, that's kind of my point is if the Israelis cared about winning over the public and getting people on their side, they would have been doing a lot of things differently, whether it's the Christian communities in Gaza or the West Bank, the settlers that are spitting on the Christian missionaries there.
01:15:49.000That's what Huckabee was referring to.
01:15:51.000That's something that's been going on for a long time.
01:15:54.000To the extent that Huckabee's taking up that issue, I think that's damage control.
01:16:03.000So then the larger question is, looking at Russia and Ukraine and Trump with a 10-day ultimatum issued two days ago to Russia, where do you see that going?
01:16:16.000I think it's going where you think it's going.
01:16:20.000And like everything else, Trump only knows one language, which is escalation and these maximalist demands.
01:16:26.000The reason that he's making this 10-day ultimatum is because he has bent over backwards to make a deal with Putin.
01:16:32.000And he's gone through these big gestures, meeting with them in Riyadh in the first few weeks, very high-level meeting, the Secretary of State and the Foreign Minister.
01:16:40.000He's made these overtures to normalize relations.
01:17:32.000And so they are making more advances into Ukraine this summer than they have basically since the beginning of the war, since the very beginning.
01:17:51.000And I think that, you know, why is Russia going to give up now?
01:17:54.000They're gobbling up all this land and they're saying maybe they'll make a deal in the future, but they want to get as Much as they can before they make a deal.
01:18:11.000And so they're both saying, you know, we don't want to make a deal, but especially Russia is saying, we don't want to make a deal just yet.
01:19:30.000Or will we get both false flag on the illegal aliens?
01:19:35.000I think it's kind of a foregone conclusion.
01:19:38.000And we might even get something organic.
01:19:40.000You know, I mean, the left, they really have no options in the sense that, yeah, they might have something where they're really leaning into this thing where they're saying that the illegal immigrants are being stripped of their civil liberties or illegal immigrants are getting caught up in the dragnet.
01:21:36.000Epstein's operation was really the labor-labor Democrat alliance from the 90s, labor in the UK, labor in Israel, the Dems in the United States.
01:23:53.000No, you know, there could be a lot of people.
01:23:55.000As soon as I and you and others came out three weeks ago on Trump said, this is insane, the whole influencer thing attacked us and said we were Democrats.
01:24:03.000Now they have to admit, oh, God, this was a disaster.
01:25:38.000I just have nothing else to say other than I just, my God, if Trump doesn't start indicting people, if they don't release the episode files very soon, then it is going against my own personal interest.
01:25:55.000These Democrats, I know, are evil, want to put me in prison, but I cannot join with something that's a lesser evil.
01:26:01.000So I have my guts torn out my ass right now, but I've got to tell the truth, and I am.
01:26:07.000All right, let's go to Ethan in Alabama.
01:26:30.000Okay, so my question to you, Alex, was if Nick were by chance to start a GoIPA war against like the Trump movement, like would you be in like would you be a part of the movement?
01:26:42.000I'm getting tired of these Judeo-Catholics, Judeo-Christians in the office dictating our government, and I just...
01:26:54.000Three weeks ago, I came out day one and said this is BS within hours of it breaking.
01:27:01.000And I've tried to figure it out since.
01:27:03.000So I am at war with the Republican establishment trying to control Trump.
01:27:09.000So it's not, do I, I would, if Nick launched some war against Trump that he kind of already has, I would then gauge it and say, do I agree with it?
01:28:19.000But my first inclination is we have to punish them, you know, and I know people didn't like my tactics last year, but my first instinct when I heard this is when Trump said, I don't want your support, my first thought is that needs to be on billboards.
01:28:34.000That needs to be projected at rallies.
01:28:44.000Like if there's any salvaging him, which is actually working some, he, you know, if we try to say, oh, take the vaccine, people backlash, he backed off.
01:29:04.000We have to push and either he will capitulate and we'll be surprised or we push and we push into something new and it becomes the basis of the orbit to do the right thing.
01:29:59.000All right, look, I'm going to tell you all what kind of outstanding job you both did.
01:30:04.000But I'm just going to say this point blank to Nick Pointez.
01:30:09.000It's just like when Christ picked up that stone and said, cast it.
01:30:14.000The ones amongst you, cast the first stone.
01:30:18.000I'm not saying that because I'm a Christian.
01:30:20.000I'm saying that because that's a fact that it happened.
01:30:25.000The only thing I can say is that Trump's going to have a come to Jesus moment, and he's going to pick up a stone and say, y'all throw the first stone at whoever's guilty.
01:30:37.000Other than that, we don't build our nation upon hatred.
01:30:42.000We try to work with what we got and build it to be better.
01:30:46.000That's all I got to say, and I appreciate both of you.
01:31:31.000So, you know, people want to make it about the Republicans versus the Democrats.
01:31:35.000And, you know, I agree white Johnson and Senator Thune trying to block and have fake congressional resets so Trump doesn't get his nominees.
01:31:49.000I don't know what game they're playing with that.
01:31:51.000I think that, you know, that's leverage they have against Trump.
01:32:31.000So the Epstein list for me is not about Epstein.
01:32:34.000It's about exposing the people that rape children for decades, right?
01:32:38.000But unfortunately, we live in a post-constitutional era.
01:32:42.000And right now, it's the legislative branch and the sociopathic control agarchs from past administrations, deep inbeds in the FBI, CIA, that are ruining our republic.
01:32:55.000So I don't think that MAGA base is walking away from President Trump because we're not ideologues.
01:33:02.000A single issue, whether the FBI is slow walking this or the DOJ is slow walking this, is not going to prevent us from supporting the MAGA movement, which is way bigger than President Trump.
01:36:55.000My question is, Trump planned to run in 2014, 2015.
01:37:02.000Do you think that it was intentional when he said that Epstein would have trouble coming later, that his administration would go on to arrest Epstein and then Epstein would eventually die?
01:37:29.000You know, There's this funny clip from Bill O'Reilly's show where Bill O'Reilly goes, Epstein got arrested under Biden and he was persecuted by Maorcus or not Majorkis, Mira Garland.
01:38:35.000And then in 2019, when Epstein killed himself, Acosta, who really had no business even being there, he was the attorney for the Southern District of Florida, gets promoted to be labor secretary.
01:38:45.000It was a very bizarre fit, not really a good fit.
01:38:48.000Then Epstein commits suicide and Acosta resigns when there's all this scrutiny over the sweetheart deal from the first round of charges.
01:39:31.000Really liked the way that this conversation went because I was almost a little concerned on Twitter when I thought it was a good debate because I love you guys both.
01:39:38.000I started off listening to Alex Jones, moved on to listening to Nick Fuentez.
01:39:45.000I just personally don't really understand why so much of the Trump base is giving him even like a shadow of a doubt.
01:39:50.000I mean, he's literally broken almost every fucking promise, at least since 2024, let alone 2016, right?
01:39:57.000And I feel like there's a level of almost like, like, they think that like eventually he'll like honor his promise and he'll live up to what he promised.
01:40:05.000And every time, like, how many fell for it again awards are they going to win before they realize that he's controlled opposition, in my opinion?
01:40:13.000Well, this is where I could actually debate, Nick, and I appreciate your call.
01:42:30.000I would just like to ask Nick a question.
01:42:32.000So I'm just wanting to know why Nick took a $500,000 Bitcoin donation from a French Jew in 2020 and then immediately changed his viewpoints on Russia and things like that.
01:42:46.000So I just kind of don't want to know, Nick, what's going on with that?
01:42:49.000Yeah, well, it was $250,000, actually.
01:45:22.000Go ahead, Joseph, if you're on the air.
01:45:26.000Yeah, so you were talking about previously the future of like America with the disintegration of the Republican Democratic Party in the future.
01:45:34.000And even then, even with Trump being delusional as he is, he still has a 90% approval rating among the Republicans.
01:49:31.000It was whenever TPUSA had me up there to Detroit, like three months before he got announced, whatever it was.
01:49:36.000Okay, so that was June, June of, yeah, that's interesting because they say Trump didn't make the decision until after he got shot at Butler.
01:49:58.000Probably just trying to get that story out there.
01:50:01.000So it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
01:50:02.000If the media is a buzz, oh, Vance told me he's going to be the nominee.
01:50:05.000Then it's sort of like in House of Cards, you know, but he also was like, oh, we're really going to look into Obama's stay-behind networks, the countering disinformation, foreign propaganda act, all that.
01:51:15.000Yeah, no, not just her, a bunch of other confirmed victims said they never saw Trump at the island or any of that.
01:51:19.000But go ahead and make your point, Jack.
01:51:22.000And my question for you two, kind of on that same line for Mr. Fuentes, is that what do you think if he's holding back the evidence and the release because it has to deal with what other witnesses said dealing with shapeshifters and stuff, transdimensional demons, would it be worth releasing if that type of stuff was also exposed?
01:51:46.000Yeah, I mean, if it contained something like that, I mean, it would be worth releasing.
01:51:51.000I don't think that's, I mean, you know, that's one of those things where, you know, if that exists, nobody knows.
01:51:57.000I mean, we can speculate about maybe it has UFOs and, yeah, transdimensional stuff.
01:52:02.000But I tend to think the more likely explanations are terrestrial, terrestrial in nature, as opposed to supernatural.
01:52:10.000I was told a year ago and six months ago and two months ago, and I've got all the White House calls and all the way.
01:52:15.000And I was told early on, it ain't getting released because the CIA and Mossad were running it.
01:52:21.000I mean, he had billions sucked out of his bank account if he died.
01:52:24.000So this debate about whether he was intelligence or not, and I don't lessen the human trafficking in young girls, but it was money laundering, weapons.
01:53:35.000I know what you're talking about, but I wouldn't read too much into that.
01:53:38.000I, you know, if that stuff is out there, you just can't assume it.
01:53:42.000You have to logically operate with Octam's razor and say, because who knows?
01:53:47.000I mean, maybe reality is not as it seems, but our working understanding has to be based on what we have evidence for, as opposed to, you know, maybe reading into these things.
01:54:38.000It seems to me like the fundamental structure of the country has just absolutely collapsed.
01:54:44.000It's nowhere near what the founding fathers had in mind for the structure.
01:54:49.000We're too heavily dependent on the executive branch, and we keep hoping for a Hail Mary, someone to come in there, our hero, you know, to go in there and totally reshape something that I just think is not fixable.
01:55:03.000Is it maybe time to start thinking of some different options of now that we have this movement, these people have moved around during COVID, looking for more freedom?
01:55:14.000People with like-minded ideas are more concentrated in different parts of the country.
01:55:19.000I'd like your thoughts on maybe perhaps some sort of secessionist movement, what that would look like if that's a viable option.
01:55:40.000Are you optimistic or how do you see things going?
01:55:44.000Big picture, I think that we are about to enter a period of remarkable instability and change because of technology, the changing world order, the rise of China.
01:55:54.000And that means things are inherently unpredictable.
01:55:57.000So I am very not optimistic about the near term.
01:56:02.000I think that between the new technology, which has dual use, the drones, the autonomous systems, the AI, I think it is going to be a miracle if we get on the other side of this next decade without a cataclysm, a cataclysmic world war, a nuclear war, an AI war.
01:56:19.000You know, we are really on the cusp of something that could be truly horrifying.
01:56:23.000So, you know, I think if in closing, I guess big, big picture, like super big picture, people need to zoom out because there's this big focus on race and religion.
01:56:34.000There's a big focus on, you know, Republicans and Democrats.
01:56:37.000But the big picture that no one's talking about is we are on the cusp of something we don't even understand, how it's going to affect mankind in every way, shape, and form.
01:56:47.000And so it's not to say those other things aren't important.
01:56:50.000They are, but it is causing people to take their eye off the ball that we something is big is around the corner and I just want to survive.
01:56:58.000You know, so you got to think in terms of what is durable, what is going to last, how to stay safe, because, you know, the next few years are going to be remarkably destabilizing.
01:57:08.000And when that happens, you typically get violence, famine, war.
01:57:12.000It reminds me very much of like the turn of the last century.
01:57:15.000So people really got to steal themselves, keep their faith in God is the most important thing anchored in that.
01:57:21.000Get some friends, get networked up, get some valuable, durable goods, you know, like gold, like Bitcoin, like, you know, stuff like that, and buckle up because I think it's really going to get a little shaky in the next few years.
01:57:34.000But if we're smart and play our cards right, a crisis can be an opportunity.
01:57:38.000There's risk and opportunity involved in a crisis.
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02:05:09.000See, this is the beauty when we deal with actual facts.
02:05:12.000I'll go straight to the United States government policy.
02:05:14.000You have what's called the National Security Study Memorandum 200, also known as NSSM 200, which was authorized, written under Dr. Henry Kissinger, who was the 32nd Secretary of State under President Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.
02:05:27.000Now, this is all we go straight to what the U.S. government has stated.
02:05:30.000He stated, quote, depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the third world, end quote.
02:05:38.000They literally stated in this documentation that we need to get rid of two to three billion people on planet Earth.
02:05:45.000Outside of that, you have something called Global 2000, which was also authorized under Jimmy Carter, outlining how food can be used as a weapon.
02:05:52.000Outside of that, you have someone by the name of Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was a former advisor to President Jimmy Carter, who stated, quote, in earlier times, it was easier to control a million people than to physically kill a million people.
02:06:05.000He said, but now it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than it is to control, end quote.
02:06:11.000It was easier to control a million people.
02:06:13.000Literally, it was easier to control a million people than physically to kill a million people.
02:06:21.000Today, it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control.
02:06:27.000So what you're dealing with is the food, the air, the water, reproductive services planned, parenthood, and all these different arenas are being used to go towards an effort of getting rid of human beings, black, white, and all in between, by the billions.
02:06:43.000I asked, well, what is going to happen to those people that we can't re-educate, that are die-hard capitalists?
02:06:51.000And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated.
02:06:55.000And when I pursued this further, they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers.
02:07:03.000And when I say eliminate, I mean kill.
02:07:06.000The negative impact of population growth on all of our planetary ecosystems is becoming appallingly evident.
02:07:16.000Now, the world today has 6.8 billion people.
02:08:17.000I know why a lot of you are in denial.
02:08:18.000So now that we're waking up so quickly, they didn't expect the masses of humanity to rise up, wake up, become aware of what this government's agenda is.
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02:08:30.000They said these white folks is waking up.
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