Alex Jones Show - Historic LIVE Broadcast! Trump Publicly Exposes Biden For Lying About Origin Of UAP-UFO Invasion! Plus, Globalists In Full Collapse As Canadians Turn Against WEF Puppet Trudeau! — FULL SHOW 12-17-24

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00:00:35.000 It is Tuesday, December 17th, 2024. I am your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:41.000 At the bottom of the hour, I am filing a massive report on the fact that the deep state has tried to push this UAP UFO invasion garbage.

00:00:50.000 Trump came out and destroyed it yesterday, echoed my exact analysis about what's happening, but did say he could be in danger from them, and that's our intel as well.

00:01:00.000 But their whole PSYOP is falling apart.

00:01:02.000 To tell the different angles in a detailed lengthy report that is being completed right now will air at 33 after in 33 minutes from now.

00:01:12.000 So be sure and stay with us for that.

00:01:14.000 The whole globalist house of cards is falling.

00:01:16.000 The dictator Trudeau is on his way out in Canada.

00:01:19.000 Globalists are in trouble everywhere. 0.97

00:01:21.000 This is an amazing time to be alive.

00:01:23.000 But the bottom line is Trump trump their garbage by going public.

00:01:28.000 Trump trump their garbage by going public.

00:01:31.000 Coming right out!

00:01:34.000 In their face and saying, you know what it is.

00:01:37.000 You're lying.

00:01:38.000 I've been briefed on this and we're exposing you.

00:01:41.000 But this shows how incredibly desperate these people are, ladies and gentlemen.

00:01:46.000 And it has been you, the audience of this broadcast, that have been the number one source and force pushing the truth out and exposing what has really happened here in the last few weeks.

00:01:57.000 So great job.

00:01:58.000 We'll continue to expose all their operations.

00:02:00.000 Huge broadcast today.

00:02:01.000 Stay with us.

00:02:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host today on The Alex Jones Show.

00:02:09.000 We've got groundbreaking news and analysis, as always, on InfoWars.

00:02:13.000 And thanks to your support at the AlexJonesStore.com, this is all possible.

00:02:17.000 A couple of incredible guests coming up.

00:02:19.000 Ian Carroll will be joining us at noon, and at 1 o'clock we've got Tom Sawyer joining us.

00:02:23.000 We're going to do a bunch of analysis on the mysterious death of an open AI whistleblower, as well as some of the J6 investigation that Ian Carroll has done and we are going to be asking Tom Sawyer about his experience with explosives and explosive detection to see if it ties into these drones that we've seen flying all over the country and frankly the world for that matter the last couple of weeks.

00:02:46.000 But Alex is absolutely correct and I'm not just saying that because I work for him.

00:02:50.000 I wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it.

00:02:52.000 In his analysis that The globalist leftist house of cards is collapsing right before our eyes, and that makes them even more of a threat, even more dangerous.

00:03:02.000 And we've seen countless examples of analysis of the Ukraine and Russia conflict, for example, where experts from Russia and outside of Russia alike have said that if we back Russia into a corner where the only way that they can win is by using nuclear weapons, then of course that's what they're going to do. 0.97

00:03:20.000 I mean, if they're going to lose everything, then they're going to resort to the last resort by definition.

00:03:25.000 Nuclear war.

00:03:27.000 But the same concept, the same principle applies to the mainstream media, to the globalists, to the leftists, to the establishment political class.

00:03:36.000 We are now in a position where this political class is so vulnerable because of our landslide victory in November, because of these nominations that seem like they're going to actually go through for the Trump administration.

00:03:50.000 That their vulnerability is palpable.

00:03:52.000 You can almost taste it on the air.

00:03:54.000 You can almost smell it.

00:03:56.000 And it is activating the genetic archive in their minds and their collective consciousness to engage in desperate measures, whether it's assassination attempts, whether it's false flag attempts.

00:04:11.000 Whether it's lawfare or subversion, I mean, I've said before on air that the best way to beat those who conspire against us is to fight back on the conspiracy battlefield, to conspire against them, to counter-conspire.

00:04:23.000 Like with the Elon Musks and the Doges and other influencers who were absolutely pivotal in this victory in November have done.

00:04:32.000 And now they are weaponizing their bootstrap mentality, these leftists, the globalists.

00:04:37.000 They are weaponizing their creative, subversive strategies and tactics and about to employ them and unleash them, not just on their political opponents, but on humanity itself.

00:04:49.000 Folks, stay with us for more breaking news right on the other side of this break.

00:04:52.000 Welcome back to The Alex Jones Show.

00:04:54.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host today.

00:04:56.000 And for some of tomorrow, Owen Schroer will be hosting The Alex Jones Show At the end of the week, Alex Jones will be back in studio on Sunday, I believe.

00:05:05.000 We've got groundbreaking reports from Alex coming at the bottom of the hour.

00:05:09.000 He's sending reports.

00:05:10.000 He's the type of person who can't stop working even when he's away.

00:05:12.000 He's been sending clips, news articles, ex-posts, and his own content.

00:05:19.000 And we will be sure to get that to you as soon as we receive it from him throughout the broadcast today.

00:05:24.000 So make sure you stay tuned.

00:05:25.000 Great guests coming up.

00:05:26.000 Ian Carroll at the top of the hour.

00:05:27.000 Tom Sawyer at 1 o'clock Central Time today.

00:05:30.000 And Alex is right in his analysis.

00:05:32.000 We played a minute and a half clip at the beginning of the show today about the globalist house of cards.

00:05:40.000 And it's not just a hyperbolic expression.

00:05:42.000 It's not just a play on the famous television series with Kevin Spacey about the political landscape and how it really is a house of cards.

00:05:51.000 It's absolutely true.

00:05:53.000 They have built and built and built this house of cards over decades and decades all on lies.

00:05:59.000 All on blackmail and collateral and coercion and media manipulation and fiat currency and finally This House of Cards is about to collapse if it hasn't already collapsed.

00:06:13.000 If it hasn't already started.

00:06:16.000 We've got reports now that Trudeau is mercilessly heckled as the government implodes.

00:06:22.000 Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was mercilessly heckled on Monday after a Liberal Party fundraiser at the Canadian Museum of History as his administration teeters on the verge of collapse.

00:06:32.000 Other headlines.

00:06:33.000 You're done, Trudeau.

00:06:34.000 Mercilessly heckled.

00:06:35.000 And we've got Reports of leadership all throughout his administration, resigning other political leaders in Canada, calling for his resignation.

00:06:45.000 And even Canadian television is reporting that he is seriously considering a resignation.

00:06:51.000 And it's about time.

00:06:52.000 I mean, he's one of the least popular leaders I've ever seen in my entire life.

00:06:55.000 And the Canadian government system is so screwed up where you can get into a position of leadership or power without the majority of support.

00:07:02.000 And even more Unbalanced way than, say, critics of the Electoral College.

00:07:11.000 But what we see is a global populist awakening.

00:07:16.000 There is a realization worldwide that those among the political class, within the political class, who have advocated for globalist policies, whether it's economic interdependence, organizations like the World Economic Forum, the International Monetary Fund,

00:07:32.000 UN or NATO, It's becoming abundantly obvious that the members of the political class who advocate for this globalism have been selling out the interests of their own constituents for the sake of conglomerating power and bolstering their hold on that political power worldwide.

00:07:49.000 We have political leaders of the world, of Western civilization, who instead of competing with one another as political leaders used to hundreds of years ago or thousands of years ago, I figured out that a much more efficient approach than competing with one another and fighting with one another is to conspire together against the interests of their constituents, against the interests of the people that hold them accountable.

00:08:17.000 And the more powerful governments become, and the more corrupt they become, then the more populist the people become, the various constituents become.

00:08:29.000 And what we're seeing now, whether it's in Italy or in Canada or in Mexico or in Germany or anywhere else notable throughout the world, is a massive populist awakening.

00:08:41.000 And it is terrifying, the political class.

00:08:43.000 Because for the first time in decades, the foundation they have built their house of cards on is shaking.

00:08:49.000 It's collapsing right beneath them.

00:08:53.000 And they have weaponized everything they possibly can in order to mitigate this risk, whether it's their control over the media, whether it's their control over their various judicial systems, the weaponization of lawfare, the political persecution of political dissidents, whether they're Jay Sixers or Julian Assange or Edward Snowden or others.

00:09:16.000 But it simply hasn't been enough because the truth itself is too big to rig.

00:09:23.000 And I know there hasn't been a lot of coverage since the 5th of November about the Democratic attempts to cheat in our own election, our presidential election, because after all we did win and we were so excited that we won that we didn't really put the enemy to the fire in terms of Their corruption and attempts to seal this election.

00:09:43.000 In 2016, after Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, he said that they cheated in a big way in 2016. It was too big to rig.

00:09:49.000 2020, obviously, they cheated.

00:09:50.000 And in 2024, they cheated too.

00:09:52.000 There were hundreds of thousands of ballots coming in, places like Detroit at 4 a.m., but it was simply too big to rig.

00:10:02.000 And so we have this political establishment which has the infrastructure in place to conspire.

00:10:08.000 They have the infrastructure in place to engage in psychological operations.

00:10:12.000 They have the infrastructure in place to manipulate the masses, instigate false flags.

00:10:19.000 So many weapons at their disposal, but it was still too big to rig.

00:10:27.000 Now they're going to activate every single tool they have.

00:10:32.000 I'm sure you remember, I certainly remember what happened in 2016. Donald Trump won the election, we thought everything was gonna be fine, and then all hell broke loose.

00:10:42.000 There was impeachment after impeachment, prosecution after prosecution, sabotage after sabotage, subversion after subversion in the administration.

00:10:51.000 John McCain literally rolling in on a wheelchair after brain surgery to sabotage Trump's healthcare reform.

00:11:00.000 We saw the political class of the world intentionally manufacture a coronavirus and then allow it to leak throughout the world for the sole purpose of empowering Big Pharma and undermining the integrity of his election or the likelihood that he would win.

00:11:16.000 The economy was so good.

00:11:17.000 Everything was doing so well.

00:11:19.000 Theo Vaughn famously said, my cousin got a boat during that.

00:11:24.000 That they knew that the only way to beat Donald Trump was to undermine the strength of the economy.

00:11:27.000 And the best way to do that, well, that's to shut down the world.

00:11:30.000 Two weeks to slow the spread ended up being months and months.

00:11:32.000 Masks and masks and vaccines and vaccines.

00:11:35.000 Regulation after regulation.

00:11:37.000 Hundreds of thousands of businesses shut down.

00:11:42.000 While all the big name brands came in and bought everything up.

00:11:45.000 And then the wealthy class benefited from the massive inflation of the money that had to be printed.

00:11:53.000 But we saw what the subversion looked like between 2016 and 2020. And I'm telling you right now, the leftists, the globalists, the members of our political establishment are hardly less powerful than they were in 2016 when they undermined an entire four years of an administration.

00:12:13.000 They are some less powerful because they don't have the support of the people in the same way that they did in 2016. Barack Obama, he's an evil man.

00:12:22.000 Abundantly popular politician.

00:12:24.000 So going into the Trump administration, there was this leftist momentum of the Obama acolytes that supported these institutions and enabled this political class or these political enemies of American interests to do the things that they did and get away with it.

00:12:40.000 I mean, we have reports now that Liz Cheney and the January 6th committee are destroying documents like the Nazis when they were in retreat.

00:12:49.000 As Russia advanced, as the United States advanced against them.

00:12:55.000 But the point is, they may be weaker than they were in 2016, but it's like 5% weaker, 10% weaker.

00:13:03.000 And all of the same tools, weapons, strategies, and tactics that they employed in 2016 against the Trump administration and the interests of the American people, they are going to employ over the course of the next four years.

00:13:15.000 Now I think Trump is wiser and more experienced this time.

00:13:18.000 He has the benefit of having been the President of the United States before this time.

00:13:21.000 So he's got more experience.

00:13:23.000 He understands that he was surrounded by bad people in the first term.

00:13:26.000 I mean, he even admits it.

00:13:28.000 And now everyone's acting like they want to work with him.

00:13:32.000 I'm going to show clip five in a second here.

00:13:35.000 But I'm telling you, some of these people are subversive and he knows that.

00:13:39.000 He understands that.

00:13:41.000 But they're still gonna do things like false flags.

00:13:43.000 They're even bragging now that they're gonna release a virus the day after he's inaugurated.

00:13:47.000 We've got bowtie experts going on major media outlets.

00:13:51.000 Well, they're not really major anymore, but legacy media outlets listing a litany of viruses that are gonna be released on January 21st.

00:14:01.000 Hemorrhagic fevers and things of that nature, all sorts of disgusting things, terrible things, terrifying things.

00:14:06.000 So they want to redo what happened with the coronavirus again.

00:14:10.000 But at the beginning of this administration, instead of the end of it, because they don't need to undermine an election.

00:14:13.000 This is his last term, no matter what.

00:14:15.000 So now they have to undermine the administration.

00:14:17.000 So they're mentioning that they're trying to escalate to World War III. We have Joe Biden literally selling the border wall off.

00:14:26.000 So that people can continue to flood into the United States illegally, all while there are rumors of a Soviet-era-era dirty bomb in the United States. 0.66

00:14:36.000 Why would you make the border more permeable when there are missing nukes that are rumored to be in the tri-state area as thousands of drones scour the area?

00:14:47.000 Let's show clip number five.

00:14:49.000 You're meeting with Apple CEO Tim Cook and did you talk about tariffs in that meeting?

00:14:54.000 The meeting with who?

00:14:55.000 Apple CEO Tim Cook.

00:14:57.000 I did have dinner with Tim Cook.

00:15:00.000 I had dinner with sort of almost all of them and the rest are coming.

00:15:06.000 And this is one of the big differences I think between, we were talking about it before, One of the big differences between the first term, the first term everybody was fighting me.

00:15:16.000 In this term, everybody wants to be my friend.

00:15:19.000 I don't know.

00:15:19.000 My personality changed or something, but- Yeah.

00:15:24.000 So everyone's acting like they want to be his friend because they understand that the people back him now.

00:15:29.000 It's now popular to back Donald Trump.

00:15:32.000 After he absolutely murdered Joe Biden in the June 27th debate, I believe it was.

00:15:38.000 Forcing Joe Biden to withdraw from the race.

00:15:40.000 I mean, there was a coup against him, but ultimately that performance of that debate was the reason that he was couped against.

00:15:46.000 And the historic moment when he stood up and said, fight, fight, fight, that was the permission slip for the technocratic class to come out and endorse and support Donald Trump.

00:15:56.000 When you have the Mark Zuckerbergs, who are known to have funded millions upon millions of dollars to see to it that Trump wouldn't be elected in 2020, coming out and saying, that was so badass.

00:16:08.000 Making statements saying that he wants a place on this administration and a tech advisory role.

00:16:16.000 Suddenly, everybody's your friend.

00:16:18.000 It's like when you win the lottery and everybody suddenly comes back into your life.

00:16:22.000 They want a piece of this, a piece of that.

00:16:24.000 But not all of these people who are approaching Donald Trump are friends.

00:16:29.000 Some of them may even think that they're friends, but they're not because they're actually Warhawks, the Sebastian Gorkas and others.

00:16:36.000 I know that Sebastian Gorka was given a place and an advisory role in the administration.

00:16:40.000 I don't think he has any real power, thank God.

00:16:43.000 But right now we are witnessing a schism within the Republican Party where it's the neocons versus the MAGA populists.

00:16:51.000 It's the rats, the Republicans against Trump versus MAGA. And MAGA is going to win.

00:16:58.000 I mean, even Mitt Romney came out and said the Republican Party is the MAGA Party.

00:17:01.000 Now they are conceding defeat in terms of Popular perspective.

00:17:07.000 Public relations.

00:17:11.000 I'm going to show clip number two here in a second.

00:17:12.000 Because what Trump did in this last campaign, and I don't think it could have been possible without Barron.

00:17:19.000 Was he put the final nail in the coffin of legacy media?

00:17:23.000 Their numbers have been going down for decades.

00:17:26.000 Their ratings are terrible.

00:17:28.000 There's no explanation as to why CNN has allegedly 4,000 employees when it has fewer viewers than Infowars, who has 50 employees.

00:17:39.000 But this was the nail in the coffin because Trump declined to appear on hardly any mainstream or legacy media platforms during this campaign.

00:17:47.000 Kamala Harris hit all of them. 1.00

00:17:49.000 You, CNN, 60 Minutes, others.

00:17:56.000 And the podcasts won.

00:17:57.000 The alternative media won.

00:17:59.000 The Theo Vons, the Joe Rogans, the Tony Hinchcliffe's, the Alex Jones's, the Tucker Carlson's as independent influencers in the space on a free speech platform.

00:18:09.000 It's not perfect, but it's very good.

00:18:13.000 Have more political influence and power than these legacy outlets, and that's why they're just grasping at straws.

00:18:20.000 I mean, they're making stuff up, they're being sued for $15 million because they defamed Donald Trump, just perpetuating these lies, but nobody's watching.

00:18:28.000 They're still the same villains that they always have been, but it's like when the Ring of Power and Lord of the Rings is destroyed, and all of the orcs just scatter.

00:18:38.000 They're still the same villains.

00:18:39.000 They're still the same bad people.

00:18:41.000 They're still the same political deep state shills and class.

00:18:45.000 But now the ring of power has been destroyed because they have no attention.

00:18:48.000 Nobody trusts them.

00:18:50.000 The perception of their power, to quote Gorbachev, was their power.

00:18:57.000 And now that perception is gone.

00:18:59.000 They have no perceived credibility or power whatsoever.

00:19:04.000 Nobody trusts the experts anymore because the experts have been proven time and time again to be either wrong or paid off.

00:19:13.000 And they're acting in massive desperation because of this alternative media threat.

00:19:21.000 This is clip number two of Trump admitting basically that Baron Trump is the reason that he did the podcast and ultimately the reason in large that he won.

00:19:28.000 How do you plan to stop the ban on TikTok next month?

00:19:33.000 Who?

00:19:34.000 How do you plan to stop the ban on TikTok next month?

00:19:37.000 We'll take a look at TikTok.

00:19:39.000 I have a warm spot in my heart for TikTok because I won youth by 34 points.

00:19:45.000 And there are those that say that TikTok has something to do with that.

00:19:50.000 Now, Joe Rogan did and Some of the other people that were recommended by my son Barron, he knew names.

00:19:57.000 I said, who is that?

00:19:59.000 Tell me, who's that?

00:20:00.000 Dad, you got to be kidding.

00:20:01.000 I can't believe you don't know.

00:20:03.000 And I did those interviews and it was actually sort of cute.

00:20:07.000 Do you want to know the truth?

00:20:08.000 But we did them and that had an impact.

00:20:10.000 But TikTok had an impact.

00:20:11.000 And so we're taking a look at it.

00:20:14.000 But, you know, we want youth.

00:20:16.000 Republicans are always 30 points down in youth.

00:20:18.000 I don't know why.

00:20:19.000 But we ended up finishing.

00:20:21.000 There was one poll that showed us down about 30. We were 35 or 36 points up with young people.

00:20:28.000 So I have a little bit of a warm spot in my heart.

00:20:31.000 I'll be honest.

00:20:35.000 The ban on TikTok has nothing to do with Chinese data harvesting.

00:20:41.000 They say that it does.

00:20:43.000 It has nothing to do with our political class or our deep state fearing that these algorithms are manipulating our young generations into incompetence relative to the coming generations in China or Russia or other places.

00:20:56.000 That's what they say.

00:20:59.000 But we know that the government doesn't care about your privacy because the government, as Edward Snowden proved, is invading your privacy constantly.

00:21:09.000 Monitoring your email communications, your texts, your phone calls, your signal, your computer behavior, everything.

00:21:15.000 All that data.

00:21:16.000 Frankly, we're giving all of our data away voluntarily when we check the accept the terms box and create a social media account.

00:21:23.000 So they don't care about your data.

00:21:25.000 That's not why they're doing this.

00:21:27.000 And we know that they don't care about the youth because they've instituted DEI programs in virtually every Department of Education branch at every state and local level.

00:21:40.000 I mean, we have story after story of detransitioners coming out and saying, That it was their school counselor or their teacher that encouraged them to transition when they were 12, 13, 14. Now that they're an adult and they want to have children, they can't. 1.00

00:21:55.000 They're bitter about it and they're suing.

00:21:57.000 So all of the same things that our government, our leaders are accusing TikTok of doing, our own government is doing to our people.

00:22:05.000 All the things that we accused Russia of doing to Ukraine, we did to Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:22:11.000 I can't think of a single reason why what Russia is doing to Ukraine is any worse than what we did to Iraq. 0.87

00:22:16.000 Lying about weapons of mass destruction, invading the entire country, unseating a relatively stable government.

00:22:24.000 Not a just government, not a good government, but relatively stable compared to whatever's going on now.

00:22:30.000 And so what's really happening is TikTok is another example of information that can go viral very quickly, oftentimes the truth, without the control of our own deep state because it's controlled by China. 0.75

00:22:48.000 So we have virtually, at the deep state level, we have Virtually no control over what happens on this massive platform, TikTok.

00:22:57.000 And that is why our deep state, our national security apparatus, our political class wants to ban TikTok from the United States.

00:23:04.000 And they're just using these other things as excuses to justify this legislation, which is likely a violation of free speech.

00:23:10.000 And I'm not a fan of China.

00:23:12.000 I'm not a fan of the CCP. I'm not a fan of TikTok.

00:23:14.000 I think it's incredibly bad for you.

00:23:15.000 But I'm also not a fan of our government coming in and mandating that these platforms Cease to exist in the United States because they want to have a monopoly over how information is propagated.

00:23:31.000 So with the TikTok thing Trump is talking about, I hope that he reverses it.

00:23:38.000 I really do.

00:23:39.000 Even though I think it's an unhealthy thing because I just don't like the precedent that it sets.

00:23:47.000 But what we're going into now is Is a new era of information, where regardless of the platform, as long as individuals have their own audience, like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson and others, the deep state no longer has a monopoly over the disbursement of information, the control of information.

00:24:10.000 And that absolutely terrifies them.

00:24:13.000 That's why they're attacking Elon Musk.

00:24:14.000 That's why they tried to do everything they could to prevent him from buying acts.

00:24:17.000 That's why they're coming after TikTok.

00:24:20.000 That's why they're coming after individual journalists and influencers and doing everything they can to fame.

00:24:28.000 Because it's all about a monopoly of information.

00:24:30.000 Because if you control information and you control speech, then ultimately you can control thought.

00:24:34.000 And if you can control thought, then you can control behavior.

00:24:36.000 And if you can control behavior, then you have total power.

00:24:40.000 Because when push comes to shove, that's all that power really is.

00:24:44.000 Think about the Tom Petty song, It's Good to Be King.

00:24:48.000 Whether you're a child or an adult, when you think about what a king is or what it means to be a king, it means that if you tell someone to do something, they will do it.

00:24:57.000 And if you ask for something, you will get it.

00:25:00.000 That's basically what power is.

00:25:01.000 Everybody does what you say.

00:25:03.000 The boss, king, whatever.

00:25:06.000 And so that's why the control of information and speech and thought and behavior is central to the deep state's That's why there's endless, ceaseless lawfare against Infowars and Alex Jones.

00:25:23.000 That's why they try to indict him in federal court with grand jury after grand jury.

00:25:26.000 They can't find him guilty of any criminal charges, so they encourage plaintiffs to attack him in civil court.

00:25:32.000 For over a billion dollars, the largest defamation judgment in the history of defamation judgments.

00:25:37.000 Apparently, according to our legal system, no one has talked more crap about anyone else in the history of talking crap than Alex Jones, if you quantify it monetarily speaking.

00:25:47.000 That's the claim.

00:25:50.000 They're not attacking Alex Jones because of anything he got wrong.

00:25:53.000 They're attacking Alex Jones because he can't be controlled and because of the things that he gets right.

00:25:57.000 They don't attack Tucker Carlson because of anything he gets wrong.

00:26:00.000 They attack Tucker Carlson because they can't control him and because of the things he gets right.

00:26:04.000 They don't attack Joe Rogan because of any of the things that Joe Rogan gets wrong.

00:26:08.000 They attack Joe Rogan because they can't control him and because of all the things that he gets right.

00:26:12.000 I mean, we had examples of Joe Rogan during the pandemic Talking about taking ivermectin and mainstream media outlets were putting like a sepia filter or desaturating the image of him in the video to try to make him look sickly and gaunt.

00:26:27.000 He's one of the healthiest people that I've ever even heard of.

00:26:32.000 And once you understand that they don't come after you because they think you've done something wrong or because you actually have done something wrong.

00:26:40.000 Instead, they come after you Because they are the antagonist.

00:26:45.000 They are the evil ones.

00:26:47.000 They are the liars.

00:26:48.000 And they're terrified of the things that you're getting right and that you're doing right.

00:26:52.000 Then the whole paradigm shifts.

00:26:54.000 And you have awakened.

00:26:56.000 And it's happening to millions of people across the world.

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00:29:58.000 Well, Admiral John Kirby and the rest of the Biden administration have done a big U-turn claiming they didn't know what the drones were.

00:30:06.000 They didn't know what the UFOs were.

00:30:08.000 They didn't know what the UAPs were.

00:30:10.000 They didn't know for the last few weeks.

00:30:12.000 They had no idea.

00:30:14.000 But now, suddenly, they come out yesterday, hours after Trump comes out and says, the Pentagon and Biden know what they are, and they're human.

00:30:21.000 They know where they're taking off from.

00:30:23.000 They know where they're landing.

00:30:26.000 And he said they're doing this obviously to create fear And then within a few hours, Kirby and the Pentagon come out and say, yes, we do know what they are, they're not a threat.

00:30:36.000 Earlier in the week, they said, we don't know what they are, we don't know if they're human, but they're not foreign and they're not us to create all the fear, as I said.

00:30:43.000 And on Sunday, I quote, solved the UAP UFO mystery over New Jersey and New York and said exactly what Trump then ended up saying yesterday afternoon.

00:30:53.000 In that press conference, he was asked, have you been briefed on this?

00:30:55.000 He said, I'm not gonna answer that question.

00:30:57.000 Obviously, he has.

00:30:59.000 We can look at these and know that they're man-made.

00:31:01.000 But here's the key to how we know that Kirby's still telling lies, though.

00:31:04.000 He's come clean on a lot because of the pressure, because Trump called their bluff at 32 days before he gets in office.

00:31:10.000 The big takeaway is that they've been harassing military bases, including nuke bases, all over the country, not just New Jersey and New York.

00:31:18.000 And the military is compartmentalized.

00:31:20.000 They're not being told what Space Command and NORTHCOM and these other private corporations are doing.

00:31:27.000 Like the Skunk Works, like Lockheed Martin and all these other groups.

00:31:32.000 So this is a major psyop, as I said weeks ago, ahead of Trump getting into office to create fear, a political distraction from all the pardons and the corruption and the human trafficking and the big Coca-Cola truck they just caught with a bunch of little kids in it, Chicago being smuggled into the country.

00:31:48.000 This is a giant smokescreen, and it could also be a smokescreen for detonating a dirty bomb or a nuke, and then trying to destabilize the incoming Trump administration, declare a national emergency.

00:31:57.000 It's also in the COG laws in 2007 that Cheney put in, that they can bring in basically martial law type scenarios.

00:32:05.000 If there is some type of UAP big event, that they don't know what it is.

00:32:10.000 But we've caught them, the public doesn't believe a word they say, and Trump calling their bluff just destroyed them.

00:32:15.000 I'm about to break more down right now.

00:32:17.000 Can you comment on the drones that are flying around?

00:32:21.000 The government knows what is happening.

00:32:27.000 Look, our military knows where they took off from.

00:32:32.000 If it's a garage, they can go right into that garage.

00:32:35.000 They know where it came from and where it went.

00:32:39.000 And for some reason they don't want to comment.

00:32:42.000 And I think they'd be better off saying what it is.

00:32:44.000 Our military knows and our president knows.

00:32:47.000 And for some reason, they want to keep people in suspense.

00:32:50.000 I can't imagine it's the enemy, because if it was the enemy, they'd blast it out.

00:32:55.000 Even if they were late, they'd blast it.

00:32:58.000 Something strange is going on for some reason they don't want to tell the people and they should because the people are really, I mean they happen to be over Bedminster.

00:33:07.000 They're very close to Bedminster.

00:33:11.000 I think maybe I won't spend the weekend in Bedminster.

00:33:13.000 I've decided to cancel my trip.

00:33:16.000 Have you received an intelligence briefing on the drones?

00:33:18.000 I don't want to comment on that.

00:33:21.000 Did you just catch what Trump said there at the end?

00:33:26.000 He's not gonna be going anytime soon to his New Jersey golf course and resort, because that is one of the main places these sophisticated, obviously, military drones have been harassing.

00:33:39.000 And they're harassing military bases, so the bases report, and so they can release the Audio-radio chatter, on purpose, because they want the public to have that, that the bases themselves have no idea what's going on, and they're being told by the higher-ups, we're not allowed to shoot them down, and we don't know what they are.

00:33:56.000 Again, all of this deliberately to terrorize the public and create a real-life War of the Worlds, just like Orson Welles did back in the 1930s.

00:34:07.000 This is a psychological operation.

00:34:09.000 Now, here's some of what Kirby, Admiral Kirby, had to say on Fox News last night.

00:34:15.000 You hear all of these officials.

00:34:17.000 You've heard a lot of concern, a lot of coverage.

00:34:20.000 Where are you tonight on this?

00:34:22.000 As we look at the information we've got, Brett, and we've now examined some 5,000 different sightings, we've added detection capabilities, additional observers, as you and I stand here today, to date, our assessment is that this is lawful, Legal, commercial, hobbyist, and even law enforcement aircraft activity.

00:34:44.000 Some of it's manned, some of it's unmanned.

00:34:46.000 We absolutely acknowledge that a lot of these are probably drones, but they're flying legally.

00:34:53.000 And it is legal to fly drones in non-restricted airspace as long as you're registered with the FAA. And there's thousands and thousands of these kinds of flights every single day.

00:35:05.000 I think there's more than a million Drones that are registered with the FAA just in the United States alone.

00:35:10.000 But this is different, it seems.

00:35:12.000 These are bigger.

00:35:13.000 They're six feet in diameter, a lot of them.

00:35:16.000 There was a reporter the other day that saw 50 coming from the coast at one, like, pack.

00:35:22.000 I know when you first came out, you said that most of these are manned.

00:35:26.000 Can you concede that maybe most of these are not manned?

00:35:29.000 What I said was at the time, and this was Thursday, when we were not as informed as we are today based on the resources we have applied to the problem side.

00:35:37.000 I said many of the reported sightings we believe to be manned aircraft.

00:35:41.000 That was true when we said it on Thursday.

00:35:43.000 We still believe, Brett, that some of these are, in fact, I couldn't give you a breakdown of what percentage, but we do believe that still some of these sightings are in fact manned aircraft.

00:35:55.000 We also acknowledge that a lot of them are unmanned aircraft.

00:35:59.000 But again, our assessment to date, given all the work that we've done, the FBI, state and local officials, that these are legal and lawful drones flying for the common good.

00:36:09.000 Okay, the Homeland Security Secretary said over the weekend that right now they don't have any foreign involvement, criminal activity, we don't see them as a national security concern.

00:36:17.000 How can you get to that point?

00:36:18.000 How can you get to that conclusion with what you're seeing?

00:36:22.000 Because we've done the analysis.

00:36:24.000 We've done the detection and the analysis.

00:36:26.000 We've corroborated the sightings.

00:36:28.000 And in every case that we have examined to date, we have seen nothing, nothing, that indicates a public safety risk.

00:36:36.000 There are drones flying over the skies of the United States every single night, every single day.

00:36:40.000 And we've seen nothing in and around New Jersey that should give The people on the ground there are concerns for their safety for this activity.

00:36:48.000 And we've seen nothing working with the Department of Defense, as well, that indicates a foreign adversary actor involved or any kind of pernicious national security threat.

00:36:59.000 Now, there have been some drone sightings, I think, as you know, over some military bases.

00:37:04.000 We're obviously looking at that.

00:37:06.000 That is a different category, and DOD has different authorities to deal with that.

00:37:10.000 But again, we've also seen no disruption Of operations at our bases in New Jersey either from any of this.

00:37:17.000 Okay, here is the president-elect today.

00:37:20.000 They know where it came from and where it went.

00:37:24.000 And for some reason they don't want to comment.

00:37:27.000 And I think they'd be better off saying what it is.

00:37:30.000 Our military knows and our president knows.

00:37:33.000 And for some reason they want to keep people in suspense.

00:37:38.000 What's your answer to that?

00:37:39.000 Well, I think it goes back to the first question you asked me, Brett.

00:37:43.000 I mean, we have made an assessment based on the work we've done thus far, and our assessment is that this is lawful and legal activity, whether it's manned or unmanned.

00:37:51.000 Again, we see no indication of a national security or public safety risk.

00:37:54.000 Okay, but there are so many of them, John.

00:37:56.000 There are so many of them, John.

00:37:57.000 You don't see any linkage between the number that this is all tied together in one thing.

00:38:02.000 You think these are all different elements and different kinds of drones, not with one company, not with the military, not with the DOE, Department of Energy.

00:38:11.000 You don't say that they're looking for some nuclear material.

00:38:14.000 You say these are all different flying objects, some of them manned, some not.

00:38:19.000 Our assessment to date is that, Brett, that this is a collection of law enforcement, hobbyists, commercial drones, and of course, civil aviation aircraft that have caused all these sightings.

00:38:31.000 And it's not attributable to an actor for a purpose.

00:38:35.000 And again, I want to stress to your viewers, we don't see anything that indicates a national security or a public safety threat.

00:38:41.000 The last thing I'll say, Brett, and I appreciate the time you're giving me, is this is an ongoing investigation.

00:38:46.000 We're still working our way through this.

00:38:48.000 Sightings continue to come in.

00:38:50.000 We've taken them all seriously, and we'll continue to look at this.

00:38:52.000 And if we learn more, if we know more, certainly if we find something that's contradictory to what we believe today, I'll be right up here on your show talking about it.

00:39:00.000 And we will have you on right away.

00:39:02.000 John, we appreciate the time.

00:39:04.000 Something strange is going on.

00:39:05.000 For some reason, they don't want to tell the people, and they should, because the people are really I mean, they happen to be over Bedminster.

00:39:13.000 They're very close to Bedminster.

00:39:17.000 I think maybe I won't spend the weekend in Bedminster.

00:39:19.000 I've decided to cancel my trip.

00:39:22.000 Have you received an intelligence briefing on the drones?

00:39:24.000 The last thing Trump just said there is not getting the attention it deserves.

00:39:28.000 Here is the embattled incoming president saying, yes, I'm not going to be going to my resort golf course anytime soon because we see this as a security threat.

00:39:39.000 That is the president saying, he's obviously been brief, that these are a security threat, but then we've got the Pentagon saying they know who it is and it's not a threat after they told the public that they didn't know who it was.

00:39:54.000 This is a major, major scandal, and this is the Biden administration, the deep state, like the Wizard of Oz, the man behind the curtain, I am the mighty, powerful Oz, trying to psyop the American people, the people of the world.

00:40:09.000 At the same time, they try to escalate to full nuclear war with Russia.

00:40:11.000 At the same time, they continue to roll out economic policies that destroy the nation.

00:40:16.000 Now, new numbers came out today that all the Biden job numbers were all fake, as we told you they were.

00:40:22.000 This is just a bunch of scammers, and all they've got is magician tricks.

00:40:28.000 All they've got is psychological warfare.

00:40:30.000 Now, here's one of the famous Women that was on Real New York Housewives talking about, she talked to this guy whose dad was in this and they're really concerned.

00:40:38.000 They think they're looking for nuclear material.

00:40:40.000 I know everybody's obsessed with this and sure there's elevated radiation levels in those areas of New Jersey and New York.

00:40:45.000 That happens all the time because there's so much nuclear material in the area, x-ray machines, you name it.

00:40:50.000 But the larger point here is that you don't use drones to actually find radioactive material.

00:40:57.000 They've got ground sensors, they've got trucks, they've got scanners, and those things weigh so much that they don't really work on small flying platforms.

00:41:06.000 So this whole radiation thing is a cover, as I told you over a week ago, for the larger PSYOP operation.

00:41:12.000 Okay, it's a secret government operation.

00:41:14.000 We're trying to keep you safe from nukes.

00:41:16.000 Here is the New York Housewives lady. 1.00

00:41:18.000 You're gonna think I'm nuts, but why should today be any different than any other day?

00:41:22.000 I know this guy whose father worked with the Pentagon and NASA and secret projects, and he has been messaging me That he will never forgive himself if he doesn't tell the people that he knows that for a month he's been watching this situation and now,

00:41:41.000 several days ago before it became a discussion in the mainstream media, that these drones are ours and that they could very possibly be sniffing out something very dangerous, some missing Dangerous W from the war and that areas that coincide with where the drones have been seen have spiked in radiation.

00:42:11.000 So he said it's time to think about where I am and that I might want to We're good to go somewhere with my daughter.

00:42:21.000 So like for me, you know, we blow things off and we think nothing's going to happen, but things do happen.

00:42:26.000 I remember sitting in my car with my driver who said to me months before I even knew what the words global pandemic meant, I think there's going to be a global pandemic.

00:42:33.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:42:34.000 I mean, if he had bet the markets, he would have been a billionaire.

00:42:37.000 So I'm just listening to this guy and watching.

00:42:39.000 And now Trump, who's hanging out with a lot of Billionaires who have a lot of money for research is also finding out that these are ours.

00:42:48.000 And what were the government's choices?

00:42:50.000 A, tell us that that's what they're doing and widespread panic and pandemonium.

00:42:55.000 Or B, do what they're doing.

00:42:57.000 But something is wrong because otherwise they would eliminate them and everyone's being very cagey.

00:43:03.000 What do you think?

00:43:04.000 This guy has also been talking to different people in government positions who agree and are watching now.

00:43:13.000 The moral of the story is President Trump got ahead of this.

00:43:16.000 He exposed it yesterday afternoon and within hours, the establishment did a 180, except on the issue of the military bases being harassed.

00:43:24.000 Now if they know who's doing it and it's legal and it's not a problem, and days before they said they didn't know who it was, But it wasn't a threat.

00:43:32.000 Now they know who it is, lied to us, but still say it's not a threat, then who's harassing the military bases?

00:43:38.000 Right there in New Jersey and New York, and all over the country.

00:43:41.000 Now the PSYOP is continuing.

00:43:43.000 I put out an emergency report, as you know, on Friday to President Trump, saying we know where they're taking off, we know where they're landing, that is the Pentagon does.

00:43:50.000 Get briefed on this, get out ahead of it, expose it, it's a major PSYOP. He did that, and now their fraud is collapsing.

00:43:56.000 Trump needs to call for an investigation.

00:43:58.000 He needs to have an investigation once he gets in in 32 days to expose this fraud as well.

00:44:02.000 But great job to the viewers and listeners for boosting all reports on this.

00:44:05.000 This is an information war.

00:44:07.000 Truth trumps lies every time, pun intended.

00:44:10.000 So God bless you all.

00:44:12.000 Infowars is truly tomorrow's news today.

00:44:14.000 Follow me on X at Real Alex Jones.

00:44:17.000 God bless.

00:44:17.000 And we'll be unpacking more analysis about these drones, the nuclear stuff, everything that's going on with Ian Carroll when he joins us at the top of the hour.

00:44:26.000 But I want to talk again about Justin Trudeau's imminent resignation because It's relevant to us.

00:44:35.000 And typically speaking, I don't really care for foreign news.

00:44:39.000 I typically am not interested in what's happening anywhere else in the world except for the United States.

00:44:44.000 I'm an America first person.

00:44:45.000 And so I'm not concerned with issues and policies of other nations.

00:44:49.000 But we are so entrenched in all these nations because of our globalist political class that what happens to Justin Trudeau becomes relevant.

00:44:58.000 Who Italy elects becomes relevant.

00:44:59.000 Who Germany elects becomes relevant.

00:45:01.000 Who Mexico elects becomes relevant.

00:45:05.000 And Canada is like our Marxist little brother, our irritating Marxist little brother. 0.71

00:45:12.000 We're like Abel.

00:45:13.000 They're like Cain.

00:45:14.000 They envy us because we're favored and more prosperous and successful and better off.

00:45:19.000 And what happens in Canada is foreshadowing for what could happen in the United States if we fall prey to the World Economic Forum's and others.

00:45:30.000 And so it's important that we understand and analyze this imminent resignation from Justin Trudeau because it's indicative of a zeitgeist, a spirit of the times that's propagating across the entire planet.

00:45:42.000 Let's run clip number B. It says here, Kyle Becker reported, if you want to know why Justin Trudeau is on the verge of resigning as Canada's prime minister, this woman says it all in just 22 seconds. 0.79

00:45:52.000 You've sold us out to globalism.

00:45:54.000 You are not working for Canada.

00:45:57.000 You are working for your globalist partners.

00:46:00.000 I wonder how much they're paying you to betray Canada.

00:46:04.000 What do we do with traitors in Canada, Mr. Trudeau?

00:46:07.000 We used to hang them.

00:46:08.000 Hang them for treason.

00:46:10.000 And you're doing that very same thing to us now.

00:46:15.000 And we've got another This is clip A. King Trudeau, what gives you the right to continue?

00:46:38.000 What gives you the right to stay in office?

00:46:40.000 You failed Canada.

00:46:42.000 You've ruined our country.

00:46:43.000 You're done.

00:46:44.000 Walk away.

00:46:45.000 You don't have an ounce of your father's integrity.

00:46:47.000 At least he walked in the snow.

00:46:50.000 You've ruined this country.

00:46:52.000 Everyone around you is running from you.

00:46:54.000 They're abandoning you.

00:46:55.000 Chrystia Freeland, Sean Frazier, they've all left you.

00:46:57.000 It's time for you to go.

00:46:59.000 It's time for Canada to have an election.

00:47:01.000 You're not the king.

00:47:06.000 His own administration is collapsing right out from under him.

00:47:09.000 And the same zeitgeist is prevalent here in the United States of America.

00:47:13.000 And there's really no difference between the Justin Trudeaus and the Liz Cheneys.

00:47:18.000 Or the Adam Kinzigers.

00:47:19.000 They're all just this political globalist class that wants to advocate and represent the deep state instead of the interests of their constituents.

00:47:26.000 And what happens when you do that is your constituents end up hating you and abandoning you.

00:47:31.000 They know that they're guilty.

00:47:33.000 They know that they're subversive.

00:47:35.000 They know that they are acting against the interests of the constituents.

00:47:39.000 Frankly, it's treasonous.

00:47:40.000 We've got House GOP accusing Liz Cheney of tampering with J6 witnesses Asking now for the FBI to investigate criminality, we're going to show you clip C here of this report, and then we're going to show you clip number 27. I'll plug that after we unpack this clip, where there's evidence that they're destroying documents.

00:48:01.000 I mean...

00:48:03.000 How much more obvious is it that these people are criminals if they have to destroy their own evidence?

00:48:07.000 First of all, they make up all this bogus evidence in order to persecute political dissidents and opponents like Trump and his supporters for January 6th.

00:48:14.000 And then when they get caught doing it and they lose all power because the people wake up, then they burn the real documents that prove that they were engaged in unlawful behavior against the interests of the American people.

00:48:28.000 This is clip C. Thank you.

00:48:36.000 Thank you.

00:48:45.000 That the Federal Bureau of Investigation criminally investigate Liz Cheney when President Trump takes over on January 20th.

00:48:52.000 One of several bombshell revelations in here.

00:48:54.000 The report also says that Jack Smith colluded with the January 6th Committee, but that some of the evidence has not yet been turned over to Congress.

00:49:02.000 They're demanding that that evidence be turned over, something that might happen when the new administration takes over.

00:49:08.000 But a really significant and rare moment for Congress to actually suggest that one of its members should be criminally prosecuted For tampering with a witness in an official government proceeding, a House hearing, the January 6th House hearing.

00:49:21.000 As you remember, Cassidy Heptison was the bombshell witness for the Democrats, claimed that Donald Trump Tried to commandeer the presidential limousine taken to the Capitol.

00:49:31.000 We now know that wasn't true.

00:49:32.000 The Secret Service had already told Liz Cheney it wasn't true.

00:49:35.000 She presented the evidence anyways to the American public, tried to give it credence.

00:49:39.000 There's some other testimony where Cassidy Hutchinson talks about a document she claims she wrote it.

00:49:45.000 She didn't.

00:49:46.000 Someone else wrote it.

00:49:47.000 All of that is laid out in this report, but the headline is Liz Cheney could be facing an FBI criminal investigation based on this information that Congress has transmitted this morning.

00:49:58.000 John, a quick follow-up real quick.

00:50:00.000 I'm looking at witness tampering, obviously a federal crime, up to potentially 20 years in prison if this is witness tampering.

00:50:07.000 It's a very serious allegation.

00:50:09.000 And as we now know from the reporting we did a few months ago, Liz Cheney was communicating to Cassidy Hutchinson around her lawyer.

00:50:17.000 She was represented by a lawyer.

00:50:18.000 When you go out and reach out to someone around their lawyer, you're violating the D.C. bar ethics, which, by the way, Liz Cheney was a barred lawyer in D.C., so she was obligated to follow those rules.

00:50:29.000 But it goes beyond that.

00:50:31.000 It suggests that she was trying to influence the testimony, get her to say things that would make Donald Trump look worse.

00:50:37.000 This is a very serious allegation from Chairman Barry Laudamilk, the head of this committee, the guy who's run the Counter January 6 investigation that has found so many things we were denied and not told about in the earlier probe, but a really significant moment today.

00:50:50.000 And you're right.

00:50:51.000 If the FBI were to pursue charges, this would be a very serious crime and one that could carry some serious prison time.

00:50:59.000 There's evidence now, and we already knew this, but now it's being reported widespread.

00:51:03.000 It's being admitted.

00:51:04.000 There's an administration in place that's actually going to do something about it.

00:51:08.000 But now it's public information that the January 6th committee was engaged in witness tampering, that Liz Cheney and others were engaged in witness tampering, manipulating that whole entire process to favor their desired political outcome.

00:51:27.000 And it was implicitly obvious to begin with because they hired Hollywood producers to try to make basically a C-SPAN broadcast look as cinematic as possible.

00:51:41.000 And then they paid millions upon millions, I believe, to air it during prime time on major networks.

00:51:46.000 Very coveted time slots, traditionally speaking.

00:51:50.000 So obviously the whole thing was always about optics.

00:51:53.000 Why would you spend all that money and invest in all that if you weren't gonna tamper with the witnesses or if you weren't gonna get the desired outcome from the witnesses in that committee?

00:52:00.000 But they're gonna burn the documents, folks.

00:52:01.000 This is clip number 27, which suggests that they're already engaged in covering their tracks.

00:52:07.000 Let's watch.

00:52:08.000 The inspector general is coming out with all of these facts.

00:52:12.000 Does that mean that Liz Cheney and the J6 committee knew about this?

00:52:18.000 Well, wouldn't that be great to know, Maria, but they destroyed all the documents on their way out.

00:52:23.000 So, again, this whole thing was propped up.

00:52:26.000 I just think you have to look at the arc of the story here.

00:52:29.000 The January 6th committee was set up for the very specific purpose of giving somebody like Jack Smith the reason to go charge President Trump and to take him out politically.

00:52:39.000 You know, that's the whole thing.

00:52:41.000 They staged — they had a Hollywood producer, Maria, Come in and do the January 6th hearings with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and that whole crew.

00:52:49.000 It was a total joke.

00:52:50.000 They destroy the documents on the way out.

00:52:52.000 Jack Smith props up these ridiculous cases that, of course, had no legal merit.

00:52:56.000 The Supreme Court knocks it out with the presidential immunity ruling anyway.

00:52:59.000 Fannie Willis, their second in command, is meeting at the White House coordinating.

00:53:03.000 The number three person at DOJ goes to the New York prosecutor's office.

00:53:07.000 And President Trump stared all of this down, all of it So, as terrible as all this stuff was, the light at the end of the tunnel here is we're on the precipice, I think, of a great American renewal here, not just economically, not just militarily, but for transparency.

00:53:31.000 All right, folks, we're coming up on a break here.

00:53:33.000 On the other side of this break, we're going to air a report from Ian Carroll, who's going to be our guest for the next hour.

00:53:39.000 Ian Carroll, known on X as At Ian Carroll Show, is a content creator and investigative journalist who focuses on uncovering conspiracy theories and discussing corruption, media biases, and global control structures.

00:53:51.000 Carroll is recognized for his investigative journalism and content creation.

00:53:55.000 He's been involved in exposing large corporations and discussing complex political and economic theories.

00:54:00.000 He also hosts live talks and discussions often focusing on controversial topics like the influence of the deep state and global mafias.

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00:58:00.000 I just got word that TikTok is apparently going to stop censoring conservative viewpoints with the new incoming administration because they don't want to get banned.

00:58:20.000 And while I'm not sure that's gonna extend to stopping censoring The truth and conspiracy theories and actual evidence contrary to the mainstream narrative.

00:58:33.000 But I figure we'll start today with a nice conservative conspiracy theory that was recently proven true.

00:58:38.000 Because yesterday when I posted, there's like a hundred comments being like, bro, where have you been?

00:58:41.000 You're like, not on my FYP. Yeah, I know.

00:58:44.000 It's because they banned my backup account and my main account has been one strike away from getting banned for ages.

00:58:49.000 So I just don't even post my videos here.

00:58:51.000 I've been on, you know, Other places where speech is actually free for quite some time now.

00:58:58.000 But I'm coming back because apparently I'm welcome again.

00:59:02.000 We'll see how long it lasts.

00:59:04.000 But recently, one of the biggest conspiracy theories was proven true.

00:59:09.000 This is Thomas Massey.

00:59:12.000 Tweeting about how A.G. Merrick Garland has been lying to him under oath for years about what happened on J6. Because the DOJ inspector general released the report today.

00:59:22.000 Well, not today, you know, days ago.

00:59:24.000 And it looks like this, and you can read it for yourself.

00:59:26.000 And it clearly states that the FBI had 26 confidential human sources in DC on January 6th.

00:59:33.000 13 entered the restricted area around the Capitol.

00:59:36.000 And nine didn't.

00:59:37.000 See, this is how they've been getting away with their little wordplay all along, is they found no evidence that the FBI had Undercover employees, because that's not how they do these operations.

00:59:49.000 You're also not supposed to talk about how Trump posted two different tweets on that day asking everyone to go home and to be peaceful and to respect the police.

00:59:56.000 And Twitter deleted his tweets that he was tweeting before everything kicked off.

01:00:00.000 He made a video about how everyone should go home and be peaceful.

01:00:03.000 And it's been a great time, but like, it's over, go home before everything happened.

01:00:08.000 He also tweeted this one.

01:00:11.000 Remain peaceful.

01:00:12.000 No violence.

01:00:13.000 We're the party of law and order.

01:00:14.000 Respect the law.

01:00:16.000 Back the blue.

01:00:17.000 Thank you.

01:00:17.000 They deleted this one too.

01:00:19.000 This was like a major red-pilling moment for me because I watched that happen live in real time.

01:00:24.000 And it was all super fishy.

01:00:26.000 Everything from videos of them like waving protesters through the barricades and like opening it up to them opening the doors and letting the protesters in.

01:00:38.000 And I'm not saying that no violence happened.

01:00:40.000 I'm not saying that it was like 100 foot peaceful.

01:00:42.000 I'm just saying that when you actually looked at all the evidence, it was pretty clear that there was something else going on that was giving the news cycle to follow for the next three to four years.

01:00:53.000 Like, they walked them in and gave them a tour.

01:00:57.000 Peaceful.

01:00:57.000 Like, they're just chilling.

01:00:59.000 And then they're just like, Walked around having a little peaceful march in most places.

01:01:06.000 Like, there is other footage that is violent and crazy, but this is what most of the footage looks like when you actually go and look at it.

01:01:12.000 And I know TikTok's gonna go crazy, like, see, I told you he was a mug of money.

01:01:16.000 It's like, bro, like, calm down.

01:01:18.000 I'm a follow the money guy.

01:01:20.000 And a lot of the Republicans are fucking evil pieces of shit, too.

01:01:24.000 The whole establishment can go to hell.

01:01:26.000 I'm going to look at the evidence and think critically for yourself, not putting yourself into a stupid left or right box guy.

01:01:32.000 And when you look at the evidence about the protests that happened on January 6th, the insurrection, and then you look at how they used that story as a tactical media hit piece to try to take down Trump for years afterwards, it's pretty clear there was something else going on.

01:01:49.000 Especially when you compare that to the BLM riots and how differently they were treated and how differently they looked.

01:01:55.000 And I lived right next to some of the biggest ones.

01:01:58.000 My girlfriend had to move out of Seattle at the time because she was inside of that autonomous zone.

01:02:02.000 So when I saw the media calling this mostly peaceful and calling the other one an insurrection, I smelled bullshit from 10 miles away.

01:02:13.000 Not gonna stop after election day.

01:02:15.000 And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels.

01:02:19.000 That this isn't, they're not gonna let up and they should not.

01:02:21.000 And we should not.

01:02:23.000 And at the time, I knew so little.

01:02:25.000 It was before I had made researching my job, before I had gotten informed.

01:02:28.000 But I was at least, you know, self-aware enough to think critically.

01:02:34.000 Because I've been raised liberal.

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01:02:54.000 More on the other side.

01:02:55.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is The Alex Jones Show.

01:02:57.000 I am Chase Geiser, joined this hour by Ian Carroll.

01:03:00.000 Ian Carroll known on X as at IanCarrollShow.com.

01:03:04.000 is a content creator and investigative journalist who focuses on uncovering conspiracy theories and discussing corruption, media biases, and global control structures.

01:03:13.000 Ian, it is an honor and a pleasure to be with you again.

01:03:15.000 I really enjoyed our last broadcast together on The Alex Jones Show.

01:03:18.000 Thanks again for coming back.

01:03:20.000 Absolutely.

01:03:21.000 Good to talk to you, Chase.

01:03:22.000 It's always fun.

01:03:23.000 I love what you guys cover.

01:03:24.000 Thank you.

01:03:25.000 I appreciate that.

01:03:26.000 So I don't even know where to begin.

01:03:27.000 When I first asked you to come on, I wanted to talk a little bit about the AI whistleblower who died mysteriously.

01:03:35.000 And I think we're going to have plenty of time to get into it because we do have an hour together, which is awesome.

01:03:39.000 But now with these Liz Cheney developments and this evidence coming out that she's been manipulating or engaged with witness tampering and there's other reports or at least allegations that they were engaged in document destruction in a very Nazi-esque fashion.

01:03:57.000 What is going on?

01:03:59.000 Let's start with the J6 stuff. 0.97

01:04:00.000 What happened on January 6, according to your research?

01:04:03.000 What is happening now and what will happen after Trump is inaugurated?

01:04:09.000 What happened on J6, I mean, if it's not, I would assume it's already wildly apparent to your entire audience.

01:04:15.000 And I'd imagine that a lot of your audience knows as much or more than me because it's so deep and we watched it unfold right before our eyes.

01:04:22.000 But even if you knew nothing about January 6, all it takes is a little bit of understanding of history and you see the same playbook played over and over and over again.

01:04:32.000 again and they've got it down to a science now where they create a propaganda based storyline within which they can contain their version of the history of what happened.

01:04:42.000 And then they create a whole bunch of word games around it like insurrectionist, a threat to democracy, etc.

01:04:48.000 And then they recycle those word games over and over and over and over for years like the Russia conspiracy.

01:04:55.000 He's a Russian asset, right?

01:04:57.000 And once they've constructed a narrative, that's the crux, that's the hard part, then they can use that as propaganda for years.

01:05:03.000 And just looking at how they talked about January 6th should tell you everything you need to know, without even researching the pipe bomb situation, without researching the footage, without researching the confidential human sources, or any of the disclosure that we've gotten since then.

01:05:17.000 But it is refreshing to finally get some hard evidence, some documentation of the crimes that they committed on the way to creating this narrative.

01:05:24.000 Well, one of the things that I've noticed and we've been reporting on here at Infowars, as our perspective is, it seems like there's a massive house of cards collapsing within the political class.

01:05:38.000 And I know that's a very broad statement.

01:05:40.000 When I say political class, I mean the elected officials in our bureaucracy, the bureaucrats, And all the members of the political industrial complex, including the military industrial complex, including NGOs, including other organizations that make money in the same way the military makes money off of war, but off of other issues, whether it's energy or some climate disaster or something like that.

01:06:03.000 It seems like there's a major collapse happening.

01:06:05.000 And part of that is what I call the private political press, which is a part of the political class.

01:06:11.000 It's this legacy media, which ever since Mockingbird has been infiltrated and controlled.

01:06:16.000 And up until recently, really had a monopoly on information in the United States and much of Europe, actually.

01:06:23.000 And with X and TikTok, and I know TikTok's not a very good example because they censor perhaps more than any other platform, but they censor in a fashion that is outside the jurisdiction of the United States.

01:06:34.000 So they're not censoring on behalf of our government, they're censoring on behalf of another government or other interests.

01:06:39.000 But what's happening is we have the TikToks and the Xs now, which are Out of the jurisdiction of our deep state and perceived as a great threat to the narrative control, I want to ask you what you think about this because you mentioned how they have to construct a narrative.

01:06:57.000 Once it's established, they can use it as propaganda for years to come.

01:07:01.000 The fact of the matter is, the platforms and the media outlets through which they used to construct these narratives simply don't have an audience anymore.

01:07:12.000 How are they responding to this?

01:07:13.000 I mean, should we expect an escalation as the mainstream media becomes more and more vulnerable, as the deep state becomes less and less powerful in the psychological operation of narrative control?

01:07:22.000 What's going on in the deep state's mind as free speech seems to have a comeback on the internet?

01:07:28.000 You're completely right.

01:07:30.000 I try to always reframe in my mind and my viewers' minds that the Cold War was not about nukes as much as it was about information.

01:07:39.000 It was the invention of nukes that switched the focus of war from empires fighting each other kinetically on a battlefield To information being the primary tool of warfare.

01:07:51.000 And certainly there's proxy wars involved in the Cold War mindset, but that was a fundamental shift towards intelligence agencies and away from military force being the primary mode.

01:08:01.000 And we still live in that.

01:08:03.000 You know, terrain today.

01:08:05.000 And it's only accelerated with the invention of the internet and with social media technologies.

01:08:10.000 And you're absolutely right that they're scrambling to try to keep a lid on the wide dispersion of information that is allowed by our modern social media landscape.

01:08:20.000 And I think that that looks like two things.

01:08:22.000 And we see them clawing and clawing to maintain control over legacy media and to maintain engagement with legacy media and their authority over the truth.

01:08:32.000 But they're also starting, and they have for a long time, realized that they are starting to infiltrate the alternative media spaces through the creation of studios, the funding of studios, the funding or subversion of various influencers.

01:08:46.000 They've always had...

01:08:48.000 Very bizarre that David Pakman, for example, lost 5,000 subscribers on YouTube the day after the election.

01:08:53.000 Yeah, bingo, right?

01:08:55.000 And so I think that these days the tactics that they're trying to use are not yet honed and they're not necessarily super easy to spot because it feels like they're trying to take a lot of shots into our decentralized media space.

01:09:07.000 And one of those types of shots is taking down The Alec Jones Show and Infowars as an example.

01:09:12.000 Sure.

01:09:13.000 You can't just destroy them with all the money in the world.

01:09:19.000 But did I just lose video on you guys?

01:09:21.000 Yeah, it came back though.

01:09:21.000 It looks like a different camera.

01:09:23.000 Yeah, it did.

01:09:24.000 Anyways, it just like...

01:09:28.000 Oh, weird.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, my camera just shut off.

01:09:30.000 It's alright.

01:09:31.000 We can still see you and hear you.

01:09:32.000 Keep going.

01:09:33.000 Yeah, so it feels like we are facing an all-out assault on all fronts because realistically, what can they do other than they need to maintain control over the information space?

01:09:43.000 As you watch things like the war in Syria breaking out, they need to control the narrative around that war in Syria.

01:09:49.000 As the coming financial collapse starts to play out, they're going to need to keep control over that narrative because, like normal, they have been behind the...

01:10:00.000 The setup and the tip of the dominoes, so to speak, this is their house of cards that's falling.

01:10:05.000 And if they can't pass the narrative to pass the blame onto whoever they need to, like Iran, for example, very quickly their empire falls. 0.88

01:10:14.000 Absolutely.

01:10:15.000 So just to be totally candid with you, I'm a ride-or-die Trump guy.

01:10:21.000 And the only reason that I am is because all the world's supervillains seem to hate him.

01:10:26.000 And I come from a very objectivist, Ayn Rand, libertarian background in terms of political philosophy.

01:10:34.000 So I understand that Trump was imperfect to say the least in his first administration.

01:10:38.000 Surrounded himself with bad people.

01:10:39.000 Hated the last year of his first term.

01:10:42.000 I think hindsight's 20-20 on a lot of that.

01:10:44.000 I'm not somebody who's a shill for Trump, but I am ride or die for him.

01:10:48.000 The reason I bring that up is because after he was elected in 2016, there was a zeitgeist that rippled through Trump supporters that things were going to get better.

01:10:58.000 And they kind of did for a few years, even though they got more difficult and there were obstacles.

01:11:02.000 But as soon as he was elected in 2016...

01:11:06.000 Hell was unleashed upon him, his administration, his supporters, impeachments, prosecutions, allegations, espionage, you know, the highest levels.

01:11:18.000 What do you anticipate is going to happen this go around?

01:11:22.000 Because it seems to me that even though it feels like we just kicked globalist ass in this election, it seems to me that we've awoken or reawakened a sleeping giant of this establishment.

01:11:36.000 The power dynamic has changed, and the mediums are slightly different.

01:11:42.000 But I imagine we're going to see very similar attempts over the course of the next four years against this administration.

01:11:47.000 What do you anticipate?

01:11:49.000 I think you're exactly on point, man.

01:11:51.000 He was not a politician when he was elected in 2016. And he was a very powerful and intelligent man, but I don't...

01:11:59.000 And maybe that's just the nature of the first crack in sort of the Just global deep state networks and power systems that they've always had that you can't break into that and start the process of change without it looking real messy the first couple years.

01:12:15.000 But this time he's coming in as a relatively seasoned politician at this specific job.

01:12:20.000 And he's coming in surrounded by very powerful people that have a ton of experience that have been attacked and defamed and gone after by the same establishment.

01:12:29.000 So I think we're all pretty excited because it's going to be very different this time around.

01:12:33.000 But that's not to say that the deep state is rolling over and giving up.

01:12:37.000 They still have all kinds of power in this world.

01:12:40.000 But the thing that you've been kind of like touching on the edges of all along throughout this conversation so far is that the narrative, the control, the deep state relies on lies.

01:12:52.000 They rely on subversion of the truth.

01:12:54.000 They rely on steering of the narratives.

01:12:56.000 And I think that inherently like evil pursuits, the pursuit of lying sort of has its own death sentence written into it because Every liar knows that you have to tell more and more lies to defend your old lies.

01:13:10.000 And so as the information space becomes more diverse and more open, and as the lies get more and more complex and more and more tied together, they're all starting to collapse just by the sort of natural entropy of a world built on lies.

01:13:26.000 Evil has outdone itself in the world and its time has come.

01:13:30.000 And I think that history has gone through cycles like this many, many times.

01:13:34.000 And we're not going to come out of it with the perfect world where there is no longer evil and there's no more human trafficking and there's no more war at all in the world.

01:13:42.000 But I certainly feel like the pendulum is swinging towards righteousness and goodness because regular people just en masse are opening their eyes.

01:13:50.000 And to your point about Trump's persecution, I was not pro-Trump in 2016. I was kind of disengaged.

01:13:57.000 But by 2020, after having watched what they did, it just had worn down sort of the liberal mindset that I had been given from birth.

01:14:05.000 And I was just questioning what was going on because of how much they were attacking him.

01:14:09.000 It's just really obvious.

01:14:10.000 And I think that that's sort of the natural state of affairs when your whole argument is based on lies and slander and defamation and evil.

01:14:19.000 It just kind of Well, and I think what the greatest advantage that the Democrats had over the Republicans for our generation growing up is that the neoconservative movement was in love with war and very dogmatic.

01:14:38.000 And I hold some of those dogmatic values personally, but I do not want the government to enforce them, right?

01:14:45.000 If we're going to talk about things like pornography or gay marriage, I may harbor some of those sentiments personally, but I don't like the government.

01:14:52.000 I mean, I don't even know why the government is involved in any marriage at all.

01:14:54.000 Why can't you just go to your church and get married? 0.97

01:14:56.000 I don't get it, right?

01:14:57.000 And so a lot of...

01:14:59.000 And I don't want to speak for you, but I know that a lot of members of my generation...

01:15:03.000 We're so turned off by Republicans because it was so dogmatic and it seemed hypocritical that you would claim to advocate for freedom and free markets but then simultaneously try to regulate personal decisions and things like that, right?

01:15:19.000 Whether it's marijuana or whatever.

01:15:21.000 And I think the neocon element of the Republican Party It has basically been rendered powerless, at least for now.

01:15:30.000 And that is a tremendous, tremendous threat to Democratic future success because that was the main reason a lot of people were like, screw the Republicans.

01:15:40.000 I'm a Democrat.

01:15:41.000 I'm a liberal.

01:15:42.000 Even Joe Rogan has talked about this over the course of the years.

01:15:44.000 Like, I'm not a Republican.

01:15:45.000 I don't believe in that dogmatic stuff.

01:15:47.000 But that's gone now.

01:15:48.000 Everyone's sick of the wars.

01:15:49.000 Everyone just wants a populist movement.

01:15:53.000 That it's the people versus the political class, not the right versus the left that's the real conflict of our time.

01:15:59.000 Do you think that this is a sustainable path to success moving forward or do you think the dynamics are gonna shift back again?

01:16:04.000 I think it's the only path to success and I think that it's partly bottom up and it's partly top down in how the world is changing right now in the sense that You know, the deep state, the permanent state has always kind of played both sides of the political spectrum.

01:16:21.000 But it really feels like back in the George Bush era and beyond, they were more heavily leaning into the right and into Republican because they kind of housed their neocon movement in the Republican Party.

01:16:33.000 Yes.

01:16:34.000 In a really powerful way.

01:16:36.000 And I think that that has to do with sort of like, I mean, I've got a lot of ideas about how republicanism.

01:16:41.000 There was an evangelical base, and they were inherently anti-Islam.

01:16:45.000 And so it was very easy to be a warmonger and republican at that time, because it was just another war against Muslims.

01:16:51.000 Bingo.

01:16:51.000 And with Obama coming in, I think that was one of, like, the Bush to Obama era was, I think, one of their most successful timelines in history because they slid Obama in very well.

01:17:04.000 And they very tactfully moved a lot of their infrastructure and narrative, like, control structure to the left.

01:17:11.000 And I think by the time they ran Hillary Clinton, they had, the establishment state had It ensconced itself so thoroughly on the left that they weren't ready, and the right was wide open.

01:17:21.000 And Trump just happened to, maybe by coincidence, walk in and start a populist movement on the right just as they had moved all their infrastructure away.

01:17:28.000 Because you can only lean the deep state narrative into one side or the other super heavily.

01:17:34.000 You can't have the narrative be both sides at once.

01:17:37.000 once.

01:17:37.000 You need it to be us versus them.

01:17:39.000 And so Trump kind of swooped the right while it was wide open because everyone has always wanted a populist movement, whether it was left or right.

01:17:47.000 Like, right on the people always wanted a populist movement.

01:17:49.000 They just didn't have the opening and the opportunity.

01:17:51.000 And then they did like what they did to Bernie, for example.

01:17:53.000 Um, so yeah, I think that, I think that, um, This is the real, like, problem with information warfare is that we all have power.

01:18:03.000 We all are part of the information war.

01:18:05.000 And the hearts and minds of the American people are true.

01:18:09.000 Like, we're real people.

01:18:10.000 We're not deep state neocons.

01:18:13.000 We're not paid for our opinions.

01:18:14.000 And so all they can do is control what we see and know.

01:18:17.000 And once they lose control of that, the manipulation just falls apart.

01:18:21.000 And I think that enough people, they've played enough cards and enough really bad chess moves on the sort of global stage through COVID, through BLM, through J6, through all the wars, that it just is unsustainable.

01:18:34.000 And there's so many people like the right looks like I am one of these people that I come from the left and RFK gave me an invitation to stand in the middle.

01:18:43.000 And then looking at the right, it's like, well, they're very welcoming and they don't want war.

01:18:47.000 And they suddenly when people are looking at the right, it's like, oh, that's a very reasonable place to be right now.

01:18:52.000 And you look at the left and it's like, I'm sorry, we're like chopping kids' genitals off?

01:18:56.000 Like, how is this gay rights? 1.00

01:18:59.000 And so, like, and this is not a new, you know, everyone is feeling this and everyone is saying this, that the left has just gone off the deep end And I don't know if they think it's a smart play or what they're doing.

01:19:11.000 I'm concerned mostly.

01:19:12.000 My biggest concern is that it's so stupid what it looks like they're doing that maybe it's a show and there's something more complex that we haven't identified yet because it seems too juvenile and too incompetent, the strategies that they seem to be employing to try to maintain control.

01:19:29.000 Absolutely.

01:19:30.000 My concern is, and this is true of War and cinema and political and business institutions, the more vulnerable they become, the more dangerous they become.

01:19:42.000 Like a dog backed into a corner.

01:19:44.000 And it's been said, oh, Russia, if it's about to lose the war with Ukraine, we'll use nuclear weapons because if they have no choice but to use nukes, then they'll use nukes.

01:19:52.000 So my concern is we have this traditionally incredibly powerful deep state in its many facets that now seems to really be experiencing some serious erosion to its legacy power.

01:20:06.000 Yeah.

01:20:08.000 They have had the audacity to do some of the most evil things that you've ever heard of over the last 50 years.

01:20:15.000 What does their vulnerability mean for an escalation of their audacity for evil in the next couple of years?

01:20:21.000 We feel like we're winning, but now are they going to bring out some big guns that we haven't experienced before?

01:20:28.000 That's a question on all of our minds, and this actually links us right to one of the big stories right now, is I've been worried for quite some time, and I've gotten some flack online for saying that the air in the geopolitical space right now feels like we're ready for another 9-11.

01:20:44.000 Not in the sense that we want it, but in the sense that it is the perfect time for the deep state to play that.

01:20:50.000 In the fact that That we're warmongering with Iran. 0.90

01:20:55.000 Israel is in deep need of another political unrest or some sort of renewal of fervor for the fight against radical Islam in the Middle East. 0.85

01:21:03.000 The US, the warmongers in the US desperately need a major distraction that will unify us against a foreign enemy like Iran. 0.98

01:21:11.000 And we also – we need another massive injection of stimulus based on nothing into our economy in order for the Ponzi scheme to keep on playing.

01:21:21.000 And so for quite some time, I have been saying that I am worried about a small nuclear weapon inside the United States homeland because they're – If someone detonates a dirty bomb inside the U.S., it is extremely hard to track down who did that and where it came from.

01:21:39.000 And you can frame Russia.

01:21:40.000 You can use radiation that has isotopes linked to Russian development. 0.83

01:21:44.000 And you could frame both of them in collusion.

01:21:46.000 And it would be very hard for independent free thinkers to debunk any of that because it would be so obfuscated and so complex to dig through.

01:21:56.000 But that would escalate every...

01:21:58.000 Because you can't redo 9-11.

01:21:59.000 And you can't like and people should do their own research about what they think happened because we certainly still don't have all the answers in the mainstream narrative.

01:22:05.000 But I get worried that there's some sort of move towards not like a foreign entity doing a 9-11 on our soil, but a proxy entity doing a 9-11 on our soil in collusion with.

01:22:18.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 Yeah.

01:22:25.000 And when you look at the drone story right now over New Jersey, it started to skew towards what seems likely is happening as they're scanning for nuclear radioactive material that either went missing from a container ship or possibly that has to do with other credible threats that they've received from overseas.

01:22:40.000 It's hard to say.

01:22:42.000 And we obviously don't know what's happening with the drones yet.

01:22:45.000 But it seems like the discussion online has really honed in on the most likely answer is that they are doing a sweep for trying to detect a small nuclear weapon or at least radioactive material or something of that nature.

01:22:57.000 So that's what's concerning to me is that we might actually be in a timeline where we need to be seriously concerned about a real terrorist attack on our homeland, which I would not assume would be coming from Iran.

01:23:09.000 They would not benefit from that.

01:23:11.000 So we're coming up on a break in about two and a half minutes.

01:23:14.000 And I want to just say this provocative thing.

01:23:16.000 You're not going to have time to respond to it before we go to break, but just I want you to think about it because this is what's on my mind.

01:23:22.000 March 6th, 2001, Alex Jones said that they were going to fly planes into the World Trade Center on his broadcast.

01:23:32.000 July 25th, I believe, 2001, he said that they were going to blame it on Osama bin Laden.

01:23:36.000 Now, I don't know that he was the first person to say that they were going to blame it on Osama bin Laden.

01:23:39.000 I think William Cooper might have had something to do with it, too.

01:23:40.000 It's confusing.

01:23:41.000 There's controversy around that.

01:23:42.000 It doesn't even matter.

01:23:43.000 The point I'm trying to make is, you've got an Alex Jones in March of 2001 saying they're going to fly planes to the World Trade Center.

01:23:48.000 You've got an Alex Jones in July of 2001 literally telling people to call the White House and tell them that they're not falling for it when it happens.

01:23:57.000 And then it happens, and...

01:24:00.000 Turns out the fact that he came stumbling out of the desert predicting the truth wasn't enough, right?

01:24:05.000 Smaller audience back then, 23 years ago.

01:24:08.000 The question is, we're broadcasting every day talking about things like false flags, psyops, concerns about the inauguration, talking about dirty bombs.

01:24:17.000 We've been talking about this, the missing nuclear weapons from Soviet era that one of them might have made it into the United States based on some reports that we've seen.

01:24:24.000 Is the dynamic now...

01:24:27.000 Different enough compared to 2001 that our predictions and our broadcasts are powerful enough and the legacy media is weakened enough that this time, if they try to detonate a dirty bomb, if they try to institute a false flag, people won't fall for it because they fell for it in 2001 and they sold out all of their rights by supporting things like the Patriot Act, by allowing things like people like Edward Snowden to have to escape to Moscow for standing up and blowing the whistle.

01:24:52.000 I mean, there were neocons.

01:24:54.000 Family friends of mine that were telling me at dinner conversations they thought he was a traitor.

01:24:59.000 He was really a hero for what he did.

01:25:00.000 It was our own act that was the problem.

01:25:02.000 My concern is whether or not we have accumulated enough power, enough influence, enough reach to keep people at a critical mass of enough people to not allow this false fight to happen.

01:25:18.000 Because the fact of the matter is You have to have buy-in to something like this.

01:25:23.000 Gorbachev said the perception of our power is our power.

01:25:26.000 All authoritarians have to control the narrative.

01:25:29.000 And do we have enough reach?

01:25:31.000 Are we having enough impact to stop the next false flag from getting us into World War III? Folks, stick with us for more on the other side from Ian Carroll.

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01:27:35.000 Everything's there right now at Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host of The Alex Jones Show today, joined by Ian Carroll, known on X's at Ian Carroll Show.

01:27:52.000 Content creator and investigative journalist who focuses on uncovering conspiracy theories and discussing corruption, media biases, and global control structures.

01:27:59.000 I highly recommend you follow him.

01:28:00.000 His content has been, and I'm not just saying this to kiss his ass, it's so impressive.

01:28:05.000 It's so cool, and you can learn a thing or two by watching how he does it because he uses all the tools that you have, a phone, and does amazing work, but...

01:28:12.000 At the end of the last segment, we got into the question of whether or not our reach as alternative media has reached a critical mass big enough to prevent another false flag from happening.

01:28:24.000 In 2001, for months, Alex was saying 9-11 was going to happen.

01:28:27.000 It happened.

01:28:28.000 Nobody even noticed that he'd been predicting it until years later when people went back in the archives.

01:28:32.000 Now, we reach millions more people a day and there's Thousands of us.

01:28:38.000 It's not just Alex Jones anymore.

01:28:39.000 It's Ian Carroll's and Chase Geyser's and Tucker Carlson's and others, Nick Sorters, who are independently doing this, reaching more than the legacy media.

01:28:46.000 Hopefully the critical mass is there.

01:28:47.000 But I want to segue specifically into this UAP story, this drone story, because it centers around this dirty bomb, false flag theory, for lack of a better term.

01:28:59.000 And one of the things I had the crew print out for me are these articles.

01:29:02.000 You guys can go to the overhead cam.

01:29:03.000 I don't know if you remember or not, Ian, but a couple of years ago, there was a Chinese balloon that was shot down for violating our airspace.

01:29:12.000 And apparently the first one they shot down, they used a $400,000 missile to shoot it down.

01:29:18.000 And I think they shot down a few more, amounting to $2 million in missiles.

01:29:22.000 There was a joke going around because I hate paying taxes when we fund Nazis in Ukraine, given that my grandfather fought in World War II.

01:29:30.000 And I was joking because I haven't paid the IRS since Joe Biden has been in office.

01:29:34.000 If they force me to pay them, I'll just attach a ham radio to a balloon.

01:29:40.000 so they have to spend the money that I owe them on a missile to shoot it down, you know?

01:29:45.000 But obviously...

01:29:48.000 This excuse that Mayorkas and others are using where we don't have the authority to shoot down these drones is BS because just a couple of years ago we spent two million dollars on the drop of a hat shooting down the Chinese balloons.

01:29:58.000 What is going on in your mind based on the recent developments with the thousands of drone sightings?

01:30:05.000 Real quickly on the topic of those balloons, Amaryllis Fox just did a Tucker Carlson interview within the last month or so. 0.99

01:30:12.000 She is a very highly decorated ex-CIA officer who is now married to RFK Jr.'s son, Bobby.

01:30:19.000 Yeah, she was his campaign manager.

01:30:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:30:22.000 And that interview was so fascinating on so many levels.

01:30:25.000 I highly recommend people watch it.

01:30:26.000 And she posited that those balloons were the exact delivery mechanism with which one would deliver an EMP device.

01:30:33.000 And so there might be more to that story than met the eye at the time.

01:30:37.000 Not to suggest that they were trying to deliver an EMP device at that time, but maybe testing weapon systems that would be how...

01:30:43.000 We've had weird outages over the last three years.

01:30:45.000 AT&T down one day, airlines down another day, internet services.

01:30:48.000 Do they blame it on solar weather?

01:30:49.000 It could be an EMP attack.

01:30:51.000 Yeah, grid vulnerability is such a wild and dark rabbit hole that everyone should go down and educate themselves about, not only in terms of how vulnerable are we and what would happen, but what would you do if the grid went down around you?

01:31:03.000 Because that's one of the most present and real apocalyptic scenarios that you might have to deal with just because of a storm, but you also might have to deal with because of a real attack or a false flag or whatever.

01:31:14.000 But this drone story right now has broken in some really weird ways in the sense that it was happening It's been happening for a lot longer than most people have been paying attention to it.

01:31:23.000 And it's escalated in some really strange ways, but our government has stayed radically silent on it in a really weird way.

01:31:30.000 And it's not like the weather balloons were a few balloons that no one would have noticed, but it became a news cycle and then they shot it down.

01:31:37.000 This is hundreds and hundreds, thousands even, of drones every night all over the eastern seaboard.

01:31:44.000 And actually, apparently, globally now, although I'm a little skeptical of some of that, Rosie O'Donnell says there are drones in China.

01:31:52.000 Yeah, right?

01:31:53.000 They're aliens.

01:31:55.000 There's drones in South America now.

01:31:57.000 There's drones in China.

01:31:58.000 And to me, I would want to do a ton of research into all of those claims to make sure that those are real.

01:32:05.000 Because to me, that feels like trying to spin it as aliens or something like that when these are clearly not alien crafts.

01:32:09.000 These are clearly drones.

01:32:10.000 And I believe that there are alien crafts out there.

01:32:13.000 They move very differently than this.

01:32:15.000 And these guys are not moving anything like the strange UAPs that we can't explain.

01:32:19.000 Right.

01:32:19.000 There's no 90 degree angles disappearing and reappearing 500 miles away.

01:32:24.000 Mach 10. But these are flying a very regular patterned grid sweep.

01:32:31.000 With red and green lights flashing.

01:32:33.000 Yeah, and so everything that we're doing right now is basically speculation because there's no real evidence.

01:32:40.000 And people have been asking, why are they flying only at night?

01:32:42.000 And to me, the obvious answer to that seems like because that way they can obfuscate where they're coming from and returning to at the beginning and end of each flight because during the day it would be pretty easy to track them down.

01:32:52.000 So they're flying with lights on.

01:32:54.000 The only reason I can imagine why they're flying with lights on is to protect our air traffic.

01:32:59.000 And so they don't cause any traffic collisions.

01:33:01.000 But then...

01:33:02.000 If you want it to be undetected, if it was a foreign government, they would not be flying with lights on.

01:33:06.000 They wanted us to notice it.

01:33:08.000 Exactly.

01:33:09.000 It's either lights are on for a false flag distraction, like draw attention to it, everyone talk about it, or just for basic security.

01:33:17.000 But then if a dirty bomb goes off at the inauguration on January 20th, they can say, that's what we were looking for.

01:33:22.000 Sorry we didn't find it.

01:33:23.000 Bingo, right?

01:33:24.000 So these are the concerns I have, is that it feels like it's a compartmentalized operation within our own government that's running these things.

01:33:31.000 And it feels like the compartmentalization, we, the main question in my mind is, is it the good guys or the bad guys running this?

01:33:39.000 Because there was one, you know, trust me bro story online where That Space Force was in charge of these drones and that it's a secret operation that they're running ahead of the inauguration.

01:33:47.000 There's other trust me bro stories online that this is like a current administration running a sweep looking for nuclear material that was lost from the shipping container.

01:33:58.000 Do you know the shipping container thing I'm talking about?

01:34:00.000 No, please.

01:34:02.000 So there was a shipping container that arrived damaged, I believe, in the port of New Jersey a couple days ago, and a report was released about it.

01:34:08.000 Yes, actually, overhead cam here.

01:34:10.000 I think I've got it here.

01:34:11.000 I don't remember the exact nuclear isotope that it was, but I looked into that radioactive isotope.

01:34:18.000 It is less than a CAT-3, as is stated in the text there.

01:34:22.000 It's used for radiology, for doing CAT scans.

01:34:26.000 And when you look into that specific material that was lost, it doesn't get used in dirty bombs.

01:34:32.000 It's not weaponizable, as far as I'm aware.

01:34:35.000 I'm no expert.

01:34:36.000 I would love an expert opinion on that.

01:34:37.000 But all the basic research I could do showed that that nuclear material that went missing would be a really weird thing to run this drone operation in search of.

01:34:45.000 Well, there was 60,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate that disappeared the last couple of years.

01:34:50.000 Remember that train that was on its way to California?

01:34:53.000 Bingo.

01:34:53.000 Those are the kinds of things that I would be far more curious about.

01:34:56.000 And so the timing of that report being released, that's a weird report to release.

01:34:59.000 And it's released right as soon as the internet starts to hone in on this, they're searching for nuclear material story, right?

01:35:06.000 And so to me, that report feels a lot like a misdirection away from whatever they're actually looking for, or sort of an explanation of like, yeah, you could like...

01:35:15.000 And it bolsters the World War III narrative that they're trying to push.

01:35:18.000 It does, yeah.

01:35:19.000 So all around it feels to me like there may be a foreign or domestic hostile group that is trying to start some sort of false flag, some sort of real attack, or some sort of threat that there's other groups trying to stop.

01:35:37.000 It's really hard to say right now, and I could really use some of Alex Jones' prescience in order to figure it out.

01:35:45.000 It does, yeah.

01:35:45.000 Let's just really quickly remind ourselves how insane and prescient it was that Alex predicted 9-11 before it happened.

01:35:53.000 And to get to your original question back about that is that I think that the media landscape is drastically different today, and we are more prepared not just in the sense that Infowars has a much larger audience, for example, But I think the really important piece that we have today that we didn't have back in 2001 is the network effect of the alternative media.

01:36:12.000 In that last time, you know, 24 years, 25 years ago, Alex Jones was sort of an island, and he was acting all alone.

01:36:19.000 And he reached a lot of people, but he was not tied in and allied with a lot of people.

01:36:24.000 In the same way that today, like, especially with the new incoming administration, if just Alex Jones, for example, makes a prediction that comes true, he now has, like, Elon Musk Right.

01:36:41.000 Right.

01:36:44.000 Like, A, we have the representative of the alternative media in the new administration making the cabinet selections.

01:36:49.000 But B, we've got all these influencers in all regards that are all networked together.

01:36:54.000 And we all work together and share information and share notes and sort of cross-pollinate our theories.

01:36:59.000 And so no longer is it a world where one person makes a prediction, and if it comes right, then they have to scream about it for five, ten years to get that noticed.

01:37:07.000 Now everyone's watching everyone's predictions, and we're all trying to figure it out together.

01:37:10.000 And the vast majority of Americans have one alternative media source or the other.

01:37:16.000 A lot of people don't watch Alex Jones, but they might watch Tucker Carlson.

01:37:19.000 Or they might watch Breaking Points with Crystal Insider.

01:37:21.000 Or their son or daughter might watch Alex Jones.

01:37:23.000 So even though they're still watching Fox News, whenever Thanksgiving or Christmas happens, they're still even indirectly getting the news.

01:37:28.000 But I want to show you this clip.

01:37:30.000 Ian, I'm not sure if you've seen it.

01:37:31.000 This is clip number 33. Cliff High apparently uploaded this on October 17th.

01:37:37.000 I'm not sure if the date.

01:37:38.000 Is exactly right, but I do know that he uploaded this before this phenomenon with UFOs, drones started happening because I was following him and looking into it before it happened personally.

01:37:49.000 But this is clip number 33. It's just a minute and 17 seconds long of Cliff High basically predicting that within the next month or two from the time this video was uploaded that we would be experiencing massive traffic in the skies.

01:38:02.000 Let's watch.

01:38:04.000 Barely over a month between the temporal marker and the visible contention that will appear in the skies that from the descriptors we had back in 2009 will go to the idea of UFO versus UFO and UFO versus jets.

01:38:21.000 Okay, so like a sort of very complex kind of Independence Day kind of shit, right?

01:38:27.000 Nobody will know who the hell is doing what with whom.

01:38:31.000 Okay, so you think that's unlikely and so on, as do I. All this shit's always unlikely until it happens.

01:38:39.000 You know, possible, not probable, right?

01:38:44.000 So anyway, now we have a strange thing where there's swarms of 20-foot drones flying around military bases.

01:38:51.000 So, unknown.

01:38:53.000 Nobody knows who owns these drones, who's controlling them.

01:38:55.000 At least they're not telling us, guys.

01:38:57.000 I would suspect that they, you know, the military would be freaking out if they can't see the signals that are directing those drones, and those drones are a, what is it, a KVAS, a KVAS weapon, where one of the, okay, so, yeah, I won't describe it, but basically you set off a group of drones that don't report back to headquarters until they're all done.

01:39:22.000 And before this video, before that specific upload, I don't know if it was months ago or years ago, but it was definitely completely detached from the beginning of the phenomena manifesting.

01:39:33.000 He predicted that there was going to be something like this that happened based on the models he uses.

01:39:38.000 And I've just discovered Cliff High.

01:39:41.000 I don't understand or totally grasp.

01:39:43.000 I'm not familiar enough with him to say, but my understanding is that he created some very sophisticated models that were able to scan and analyze the zeitgeist of the internet and then extrapolate the patterns into what is likely to happen in the future.

01:39:56.000 And he's had successful predictions in the past unrelated to this as well.

01:40:01.000 Have you seen that clip or heard of Cliff High?

01:40:03.000 I've not seen that clip or heard of him, but it makes perfect sense.

01:40:06.000 And, you know, you need look no further than the way that the media does do sort of like predictive programming, predictive preparation.

01:40:13.000 And it's easier to look in the past and look at the Iraq War as an example, where the groups that were planning the Iraq War The Clean Break Report writers of this world, those folks were disseminating that narrative into the media in many small ways for quite some time before the Iraq War to prime us and to prepare us.

01:40:32.000 And so I don't doubt that you could write some sort of algorithm or predictive model that would sort of pick up on those little cues.

01:40:39.000 Right.

01:40:39.000 To the extent that information is manipulated, a model like that would be accurate.

01:40:44.000 If it was really spontaneous and chaotic and random and just organic, it would be much less...

01:40:49.000 That's the funny irony of it all, right?

01:40:51.000 Wow.

01:40:51.000 Is that by control the narrative, they expose themselves.

01:40:54.000 And yeah, I agree that I think that the darkest possible outcome of what's happening right now with the drones is some sort of fake alien invasion or some sort of fake war of the worlds or even just linking it to whatever fake false flag terrorist attack comes.

01:41:10.000 It could be any mixture of the three, and that would be extremely difficult to deal with, especially if it involved EMP or an attack on the grid that would – because really at this point, taking down our communication networks, like our decentralized communication networks, that is one of the greatest plays that they could make right now because it that is one of the greatest plays that they could make right now because it would basically lock everyone And however prepared we all are mentally, spiritually, physically, emotionally, we'd be left at that.

01:41:38.000 And we would no longer be getting information for whatever period of time.

01:41:42.000 I assume that Elon Musk does not yet have infrastructure to replace the grid and the internet connections of the world at the snap of a finger, but...

01:41:51.000 It kind of seems like he's trying to prepare for that because the grid threat is so great and dire.

01:41:58.000 And a nuclear threat, a dirty bomb threat, could overlap with a grid threat in a lot of different ways.

01:42:05.000 And I don't remember if it was last year, earlier this year, or the year before.

01:42:08.000 Everything becomes a blur when you're on the front lines of the information war for so long.

01:42:12.000 But they were teasing UAPs and UFOs On a massive scale, I mean, Sean Ryan was covering it.

01:42:20.000 There were whistleblowers coming out to Congress.

01:42:22.000 There were members of congressional committees that were coming out of classified meetings saying, oh, this seems like it's not human.

01:42:30.000 Even the government was saying that these objects don't seem to be manmade.

01:42:35.000 They teased that months or years ago.

01:42:39.000 Massive viral reach, and then it disappeared.

01:42:41.000 Everyone stopped talking about it.

01:42:43.000 Now we have this phenomenon that everyone's experiencing at the same time with that seed having been planted from a couple of years ago.

01:42:49.000 Do you think that was an intentional psychological campaign?

01:42:53.000 This might be controversial, but I don't think so.

01:42:56.000 I think halfway, in the sense that I'm of the persuasion based upon trying to look into all the evidence and all the whistleblowers and stuff.

01:43:04.000 I'm of the persuasion that there's a lot of kernels of truth there and that there are UAPs and there are aliens involved in our history and our present-day storyline.

01:43:12.000 But...

01:43:14.000 I think there is a genuine disclosure push happening behind the scenes and in exactly the same way that they would have to control the media narrative about the war in the Middle East or the war in Ukraine, they need to control the media narrative around that disclosure as well.

01:43:27.000 And I think that they do that by feeding into it and trying to redirect the stream.

01:43:31.000 And I think that that's what we saw last year is they tried to make it look like the government was like pro-disclosure and then they redirect the stream.

01:43:38.000 And I think that some sort of a Project Bluebeam or false flag, you know, fake alien attack Would go right in line with trying to control that narrative ahead of its actual timeline.

01:43:48.000 Because I think that there are real legitimate actors out there, like the David Grush's, maybe the Stephen Greer's.

01:43:54.000 Maybe it's hard to tell who is legit and who is not.

01:43:57.000 But I think there are real actors out there with a lot of sway that are trying to get disclosure.

01:44:02.000 It's just a very complicated situation.

01:44:03.000 And mind-bending topic to disclose.

01:44:07.000 I don't think regular Americans are even beginning to be prepared for what that means about our physical and our spiritual reality.

01:44:14.000 Speaking of disclosure, this is a good segue.

01:44:19.000 Whistleblower for open AI dies mysteriously.

01:44:23.000 And it's not just because a whistleblower for a major corporation that dies mysteriously that this is interesting.

01:44:28.000 It's because artificial intelligence is so relevant to the information war and the deep state dynamic with public relations and public psychology.

01:44:38.000 AI is obviously getting very powerful.

01:44:39.000 Elon Musk is saying we're 18 months or less away from artificial general intelligence, which is incredibly exciting and terrifying simultaneously, depending on what side of the fence you play on with that issue.

01:44:50.000 So in the last few minutes that we have together, we have about seven minutes.

01:44:53.000 What happened with this OpenAI whistleblower?

01:44:57.000 And what are your thoughts on OpenAI's transition from a nonprofit to a for-profit and some of its seeming conspiring with major corporations like Microsoft and the government?

01:45:11.000 Yeah, well, it's not super clear yet because a lot of it has not been released.

01:45:17.000 As far as I'm aware, the story kind of broke in a very delayed fashion.

01:45:22.000 It feels like it took a week or two for people to notice that this suicide was this important person that was whistleblowing OpenAI.

01:45:30.000 Or at least it took a minute for the traction to gain for people to start talking about it and everyone to start noticing.

01:45:35.000 But this guy that had been working at OpenAI in various important positions had started to have concerns about the copyright claims that could be brought against OpenAI, and by extension himself, because he was working on this technology.

01:45:50.000 In that open AI is basically just copying and regurgitating the works of everybody and not having...

01:45:58.000 They use private intellectual property to train the models.

01:46:01.000 Exactly.

01:46:02.000 And a lot of times the outputs are not really significantly different than the inputs, which are copyrighted materials.

01:46:07.000 And so when he started to talk and bring this...

01:46:11.000 This sort of accusation, essentially, this concern.

01:46:15.000 To the front, he was previously fired or left OpenAI.

01:46:20.000 It's a little unclear.

01:46:22.000 I think he left, but it's a little unclear always.

01:46:24.000 But then this copyright issue is not just a little whistleblow.

01:46:29.000 This is a whistleblow on the fundamental nature of Of AI models in general.

01:46:34.000 And this is like, we're talking trillions of dollars worth of lawsuit.

01:46:37.000 And we're talking all of the multi-billion dollar valuation of open AI is on the line.

01:46:42.000 Not to mention the special interests.

01:46:44.000 Exactly.

01:46:45.000 When you look at those special interests, open AI has been heavily tied to classified deep state government operative type of research for quite some time now.

01:46:54.000 They have the ex-CEO of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Susan Desmond Hellman, who is also on the board of Pfizer.

01:47:01.000 They have Larry Summers, who is an Epstein associate, as well as like a deep, deep banker, like state cabal dude.

01:47:07.000 They have just a bunch of really concerning people on the board.

01:47:11.000 And they've had a number of very concerning steps from originally being open source and nonprofit to slowly walking towards being a for profit corporation that is closed source in a complete black box doing deep state programs in the background.

01:47:25.000 And when you look at the outputs that when you ask it really like, you know, specific questions about what open AI actually thinks of the world and how it's trying to program our thoughts, it is super dark when you look at the way that AI might be controlling our information space in the very near, if not present future.

01:47:40.000 Sure.

01:47:41.000 So, obviously, whistleblowers don't commit suicide.

01:47:45.000 People that are going through the hard work and the danger that it takes to turn on everything that you've done and to gather evidence and to come out and to speak.

01:47:55.000 This dude was scheduling interviews with mainstream news for the weeks following his, quote, suicide.

01:48:01.000 And George Webb put together a really interesting connection that He did an interview with the New York Times shortly before he committed suicide quote unquote and it would not and this is just a theory I'm not not laying any accusations but it would not be the first time that a whistleblower has done a mainstream media news interview which was actually sort of a front for figuring out how much does this person really know because in an interview setting you're on the same time you're telling everything you know and then boom suddenly whoopsies he's dead And

01:48:32.000 so just suspicious and worth looking into.

01:48:35.000 And I think, I hope that people like Elon will take an interest in this and people that have power, maybe the Kath Patels of this world, will actually dig in.

01:48:43.000 Because this is not just a little dude with some small company.

01:48:45.000 It's possible that the narrative is true and that he just was mentally ill and killed himself.

01:48:49.000 So there's no way to know for sure.

01:48:51.000 But one thing is for sure.

01:48:53.000 It is very dangerous to be a credible whistleblower in the United States.

01:48:58.000 Look what happened to Seth Rich.

01:48:59.000 Look what happened to this CEO of this healthcare company that was just assassinated.

01:49:04.000 Look what happened to Julian Assange who was almost killed and imprisoned forever.

01:49:08.000 Look what happened to Edward Snowden who had to escape to Moscow all places.

01:49:12.000 It is not a good place in the United States to be a whistleblower On organizations associated or intimately connected with the deep state as OpenAI is.

01:49:21.000 So regardless of the truth of this specific story, there are definitely a lot of people that are very happy he's no longer with us.

01:49:28.000 Yeah, we need whistleblower protections yesterday in America because if we all agree that America is deeply corrupt and that financial institutions, that corporations, that the deep state has its tentacles and everything.

01:49:41.000 Then the way that we're going to fix that is by having people come out from the inside and tell us all the evil, corrupt things that they're doing.

01:49:46.000 We need whistleblowers. 0.94

01:49:47.000 And if we need whistleblowers, we need protections for whistleblowers.

01:49:50.000 So we should make that a rallying cry in the Trump administration.

01:49:53.000 And I would hope that we can because a lot of the people that are coming in have either been wronged by the deep state or framed by the deep state or set up in other ways.

01:50:01.000 And so if we can't protect our whistleblowers, then we don't deserve freedom, right?

01:50:05.000 Like if we can't protect the people that are taking the risks to tell us how evil the world is, Then we have not yet made the leap to stand for freedom that we need to make.

01:50:15.000 You didn't even mention the Boeing whistleblowers.

01:50:19.000 There's too many to name and too many to count.

01:50:22.000 Yeah, and anybody who's been a chef for a Democratic administration the last 30 years.

01:50:26.000 Exactly.

01:50:27.000 Ian, it's been an honor and a pleasure to have you.

01:50:29.000 You're welcome anytime.

01:50:30.000 I always enjoy our interactions.

01:50:31.000 I encourage the audience to follow you at Ian Carroll Show.

01:50:34.000 Thanks so much for your time today.

01:50:36.000 Thank you, Chase.

01:50:37.000 Always a pleasure, man.

01:50:38.000 Absolutely.

01:50:39.000 Next up, folks, we have Tom Sauer coming on to join us for the third hour of the broadcast.

01:50:45.000 Make sure you stay tuned for that.

01:50:46.000 We've got a break coming up in one minute.

01:50:48.000 Tom Sauer, known on X's, Thomas B. Sauer, is a multifaceted individual with a diverse background, primarily centered around military service, entrepreneurship, and health services and public commentary.

01:50:59.000 I'm sour as a former U.S. Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal Officer having graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 2006.

01:51:04.000 According to Grock, his military service involved handling some of the most dangerous bomb disposal tasks during his career.

01:51:10.000 I specifically want to have him on to talk about these drones, whether or not they're actually being used to detect a dirty bomb, whether or not that's credible or something else is going on.

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01:55:47.000 That's so triggering to the left, but I also love Christmas.

01:55:50.000 And a Happy New Year with President Trump about to come into office.

01:55:58.000 What's going on here is that the food industry has figured out that there's a combination of sweet, carbohydrate, and salt that goes to our brains and is very...

01:56:09.000 I think it's addictive.

01:56:11.000 Now, that's my opinion.

01:56:12.000 And I think it's the same neural circuits that are involved in opioid addiction and other kinds of...

01:56:20.000 That man that you just heard speak is a man named Dr. Califf.

01:56:25.000 He's the current chief of the FDA appointed by Biden in 2021. So the Food and Drug Administrator admitted that our food isn't actually food, it's more like drugs.

01:56:35.000 Ah!

01:56:37.000 Him and his buddy here said some other wild stuff at this Senate health panel hearing on December 5th.

01:56:42.000 One of the key things that they brought up was food dyes, which is the subject of today's video.

01:56:48.000 A not often discussed reason as to why our American food system is just so addictive in nature is because of how colorful it is.

01:56:56.000 Check this out.

01:56:57.000 A 1982 study found that people perceive dark red beverages as tasting sweeter even when that sample and all of the other samples that they tried in the study had the same exact amount of sugar in it.

01:57:10.000 Certain colors, like the one in that study, dark red, can literally change how we perceive our sense of taste.

01:57:17.000 RED40 alone is found in over 36,000 American food products, and in some places you honestly wouldn't expect, like this ham and cheese cup at the grocery store, or this salmon salad, or this jar of ginger.

01:57:30.000 The fact that RED40 is in 36,000 American food products would be a-okay if RED40 wasn't studied to cause ADHD in children, irritable bowel disease, and possibly cancer, amongst many other negative health effects.

01:57:46.000 Don't take the black pill just yet.

01:57:47.000 Our benevolent, loving, angelic overlords have been monitoring Red 40 day and night for our own safety.

01:57:54.000 The FDA has a position that food coloring like 40 are safe for a kid's ingestion.

01:58:00.000 Do both of you stand behind that?

01:58:02.000 We have not evaluated Red 40 in over a decade.

01:58:06.000 In over a decade.

01:58:07.000 In over a decade.

01:58:09.000 What would you say?

01:58:11.000 You do hear.

01:58:12.000 To make matters worse, the equally harmful Red Dye 3 was also brought up during this hearing, and this is what our benevolent, angelic overlords had to say about that.

01:58:21.000 Red 3 has been known to cause cancer in cosmetics.

01:58:26.000 But we still allow it to be put in our food.

01:58:28.000 I don't understand that.

01:58:29.000 So RED3 presents an interesting example for us.

01:58:33.000 It is actually known to be cancer in laboratory animals, rats.

01:58:38.000 But the scientific consensus is that the mechanism of carcinogenicity in In rats is not applicable in humans.

01:58:46.000 However, any chemical that is shown to be carcinogenic in animals or humans, or should I say humans or animals, cannot be authorized by FDA. It's called the Delaney Clause.

01:58:58.000 And so even though we don't believe there is a risk to humans under the Delaney Clause of the FFDCA, Red dye, because it is known to cause cancer in laboratory animals, should not be authorized.

01:59:10.000 And so that is what has been challenged FDA for many years, is how to manage around the Delaney Clause.

01:59:16.000 So what he just said there was completely insane, and I'm going to help you understand some of the wizard talk that you just heard there.

01:59:23.000 The FDA doesn't authorize anything in our food supply if it's found to cause cancer in humans or animals.

01:59:29.000 This is due to the regulation he talked about called the Delaney Clause, which was first enacted in 1958. So what's so puzzling about what he just said in front of the Senate is that red dye number three was found to cause cancer in rats in the year 1990. So when they found that out, they banned it.

01:59:47.000 But only for cosmetics, not the food supply.

01:59:51.000 They only followed the Delaney clause halfway.

01:59:53.000 They should have banned it in everything if it causes cancer in rats because that's what the Delaney clause says. 0.86

02:00:00.000 So it should be a huge slap in your face when you hear this guy admit right in front of the Senate That it's a challenge to the FDA to manage around the Delaney Clause when the Delaney Clause is one of the few things that keeps us safe from cancer-causing chemicals.

02:00:18.000 These people hate you.

02:00:19.000 But here's the good news.

02:00:20.000 Because of massive public backlash, they're actually looking at banning these food dyes now.

02:00:24.000 Which is a huge victory.

02:00:26.000 Soon, man-made horrors beyond your comprehension like this Captain Crunch Blue Ocean syrup abomination may soon just vanish from the grocery shelves.

02:00:36.000 But banning a few harmful ingredients and products isn't going to take you across the finish line in your own health journey.

02:00:42.000 That's just a fact.

02:00:43.000 You still have to exercise your free will and make better choices.

02:00:47.000 A good rule of thumb that I personally follow is to just stay away from processed food as much as you can.

02:00:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:55.000 I am Chase Geiser, your host for the remainder of the show until the great Owen Schroyer takes over with the War Room at 3 p.m.

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02:01:04.000 We are joined right now by Tom Sauer, known on X as Thomas B. Sauer, multifaceted individual with a diverse background, primarily centered around military service, entrepreneurship, and health services and public commentary.

02:01:16.000 Tom, it's an honor and a pleasure to have you on the show.

02:01:18.000 Thank you so much for agreeing to come on with your time on such short notice.

02:01:23.000 Hey, thanks for having me, Chase.

02:01:24.000 Really appreciate it.

02:01:25.000 And pretty impressed you were able to figure out all that stuff about me so easily.

02:01:29.000 It was Grock, man.

02:01:30.000 It was Grock.

02:01:31.000 I just put in your handle on Grock and I said, tell me about this guy and they spit it all out.

02:01:34.000 That's great.

02:01:35.000 That's great.

02:01:36.000 So the reason I wanted to have you on is because I saw Joe Rogan post the nine minute clip of this CEO of a drone contracting company, military contractor.

02:01:48.000 And it was a nine minute clip of him saying that there had been reports of a Soviet-era Ukrainian nuclear weapon that had gone missing and maybe these drones are being used to detect radiation.

02:01:58.000 I saw your comment Saying basically, look, there's other ways that they can detect radiation without flying drones all over the place.

02:02:05.000 And so because of your background and because of the great work that you do that I want to also show a light on, I wanted to ask you or get your insight, your intel, your credible expertise for the sake of the audience and myself on why or what you think about the argument around this is radiation detecting.

02:02:24.000 So I don't believe that that's the case.

02:02:27.000 Now, that doesn't mean I know the answer as to what's going on.

02:02:32.000 So what I did in my previous life, so to speak, I was a Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal Officer.

02:02:38.000 I was attached to a Special Operations Task Force, which was actually based out of Japan.

02:02:45.000 We were the regional, what was called the Commanders in Extremis Force, the SIF. Nowadays, I think they call it the CRIF, the Crisis Response Force.

02:02:54.000 And it's meant to be a quick reaction in theater, in the Pacific region.

02:02:59.000 Every region has one assigned to it.

02:03:01.000 And they were there for counterterrorism.

02:03:03.000 So this was for major events.

02:03:05.000 So this is a major hostage situation or some sort of a terrorist act.

02:03:11.000 And then if you think about it, what is the Biggest terrorist threat out there, right?

02:03:17.000 And really, if you think about it, the biggest terrorist threat would be a WMD, brought into either one of our friends' countries, whether Europe, Australia, Japan, or into the United States, God forbid. 0.66

02:03:32.000 And we were a supporting element of JSOC, Joint Special Operations Command, right?

02:03:38.000 And so you can...

02:03:40.000 Without giving anything away too much, you could probably read on the internet about what Joint Special Operations Command does, and you would probably find something about how it's the premier counterterrorism force.

02:03:51.000 And that includes—and Joint Special Operations Command owns SEAL Team 6, Delta Force, a couple other units that you might not have heard of, right?

02:04:01.000 And then also below, those are considered the Tier 1 units.

02:04:04.000 The unit I was attached to was what's— Colloquially referred to as a tier two unit, right?

02:04:10.000 We kind of make the joke that my unit, what we did, we were discount Delta Force, diet dev group, right?

02:04:17.000 But we were actually a very capable unit.

02:04:19.000 And so we were able to do a lot, but I went through a ton of training as an EOD officer, right?

02:04:25.000 We still know how to shoot, jump, dive, do all the cool guy things, right?

02:04:30.000 But most of our training is focused on defeating terrorist explosive threats.

02:04:35.000 And what is, again, what is the biggest terrorist threat would be a loose WMD, particularly a nuclear device, right?

02:04:44.000 And so...

02:04:45.000 And just for the sake of myself and the audience, how many unaccounted for nuclear weapons are there estimated to be?

02:04:54.000 You'd be surprised how few.

02:04:56.000 Okay.

02:04:57.000 Because, you know, believe it or not, and what's one thing I learned...

02:05:00.000 But there are some...

02:05:03.000 I'm not really sure, to be honest, but I actually was surprised to learn that there was very good accountability.

02:05:09.000 I mean, I can't even find my keys, so I can't imagine what happened after the Soviet Union collapsed.

02:05:14.000 Right.

02:05:14.000 But one of the things I learned that was really interesting was that there are...

02:05:19.000 I didn't even know about it until I got into this unit and I got the full read-in to the programs that I was involved in.

02:05:27.000 And I was actually very pleasantly surprised to learn that there are very large, well-funded, very well-funded, well-organized organizations that are dedicated almost entirely to preventing this sort of a thing.

02:05:44.000 So I think you showed a picture there of when Carl Brashear pulled a lost nuclear weapon, I think it's off the coast of Spain a long time ago.

02:05:52.000 I believe that, yeah.

02:05:54.000 So, one thing that's interesting, yeah, I think that's what that is right there.

02:05:57.000 It's where Karl Bashir lost his leg, I believe, if that's the case, in Palomar's weapon, yeah.

02:06:00.000 Karl Bashir from the movie Men of Honor, right?

02:06:03.000 Yeah, he's a real guy.

02:06:06.000 So, I was actually pretty surprised by a lot of this.

02:06:09.000 And we've got a ton of capability now.

02:06:11.000 And we've got very, and I learned this my time at Los Alamos National Lab, which is where, you know, that's where nuclear weapons came from, right?

02:06:20.000 And where they're first tested.

02:06:22.000 And the lab there today does a lot of work almost entirely around nuclear weapons.

02:06:27.000 So I got to see, like, the plutonium production facility.

02:06:30.000 Like, there is a place where we actually manufacture the pits, the cores, the plutonium.

02:06:35.000 Got to hold plutonium in my hand.

02:06:37.000 It was wild.

02:06:38.000 I mean, it really was very impressive.

02:06:40.000 And because of that, that's all owned by the Department of Energy.

02:06:42.000 So you have to get a separate clearance called a Q clearance, right?

02:06:46.000 So you can have access to what's called SINWIDI, Critical Nuclear Weapons Design Information, right?

02:06:50.000 So we learned a lot about how nuclear weapons actually function and work.

02:06:56.000 And also in the event of a, let's say, a bad guy is trying to sneak one into the country about how to determine, one, like confirm or deny that In other words, hey, is this actually a nuclear weapon?

02:07:11.000 And if it is, let's say it's something homemade, right?

02:07:14.000 For example, there's a Pakistani scientist named A.Q. Khan who sold blueprints like plants. 0.92

02:07:21.000 Here's how you could DIY nuclear weapon.

02:07:24.000 And somebody tried something like that, right?

02:07:29.000 But we would be able to confirm or deny whether or not it actually was a nuclear weapon and if it would actually produce a nuclear yield.

02:07:39.000 And then we end up talking to folks at Department of Energy, Joint Special Operations Command, White House.

02:07:44.000 We do these exercises.

02:07:46.000 I spent a lot of time in Australia, New Zealand, practicing with those partner countries.

02:07:51.000 If somebody tried to sneak a nuke into Australia or into New Zealand, let's say.

02:07:56.000 Because not all developed countries have the same capabilities that we have, right?

02:08:02.000 So we train them, help them out.

02:08:05.000 So that's where I learned that, whoa, there's some really advanced ways to detect them.

02:08:09.000 And we have them in the States too.

02:08:11.000 And a lot of them is like seen and unseen.

02:08:13.000 For example, coming into the ports, almost all of our ports have radiation monitors.

02:08:19.000 Here, I'll give you a fun example.

02:08:20.000 Is there any way to mask it though?

02:08:21.000 Can you surround a nuclear weapon in lead or something like that?

02:08:24.000 You can.

02:08:25.000 And actually, that's also one of the tougher parts where if it's an actual nuclear warhead, they are not, as we would say, hot, as radioactive, as like a radiological dispersal device, aka a dirty bomb, right?

02:08:41.000 So because the purpose of an RDD, we call an RDD, a dirty bomb, is Is simply to spread dangerous radioactive material all over the place, and if it was done correctly, it can make an area uninhabitable for decades, centuries.

02:08:58.000 - Sure, especially if it hits the water supply, things like that. - All sorts of stuff, right.

02:09:02.000 And so nuclear weapons are an actual, what we refer to as an IND, an improvised nuclear device, which would be either a state made, made by the Russians or us or some other, or one of our other countries that got, was stolen, the warhead would get stolen and then would get rigged to explode as an IED, an IND. the warhead would get stolen and then would get rigged Or if it was a home, something, a DIY one. 0.66

02:09:24.000 So the thing is though, is that we focus, Now, I can tell you that right now, and this is, like, without me giving up anything too classified or anything like that, but...

02:09:33.000 Sorry, I can't.

02:09:34.000 I just don't want to get in trouble.

02:09:35.000 I understand.

02:09:36.000 So, yeah, is...

02:09:38.000 Is we focus not so much on, we focus a lot on stuff at the homeland, but we really push it out, as in what we refer to as upstream defeat, right?

02:09:49.000 As in, we are over there, we are in other countries, we are watching the sea lanes, if anything were to come in on a container ship or something like that.

02:09:57.000 But I'll give you a fun example of here in the state, one of the ways that we do this, right?

02:10:02.000 Have you ever been on a major interstate highway, especially if you're near a port city like Baltimore or Jacksonville, Florida is a good example, where as soon as I leave, I'm going north from Jacksonville up 95. And for some reason, I see all this road construction, but there's no actual construction.

02:10:20.000 And there'd be nothing but orange barrels just funneling all traffic into one lane.

02:10:26.000 And it's just barrels and barrels and barrels, but you don't see any backhoes or bulldozers or people working or anything like that. 0.97

02:10:33.000 It's just holding up traffic.

02:10:34.000 Well, I'm just saying you could fit radiation monitors inside those barrels.

02:10:39.000 I see.

02:10:40.000 Multiple ones.

02:10:40.000 So you create a bottleneck and you can scan every vehicle.

02:10:43.000 And if a truck goes by, it'll ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.

02:10:47.000 It'll let folks know.

02:10:49.000 But, for example, though, we actually do spend a lot of time on, again, upstream defeat.

02:10:54.000 So instead, we're overseas watching everything, right?

02:10:58.000 So it's like proactive.

02:10:59.000 You're trying to find the device before it even makes it here.

02:11:04.000 Exactly, right?

02:11:05.000 And keeping track of them.

02:11:06.000 So there is an entire organization called DITRA, Defense Threat Reduction Agency, right?

02:11:12.000 DITRA. And they partner with Department of Energy, which, by the way, guys, I'm not sure if everyone knows this, but when people talk about DOE, Department of Energy, like, the actual infrastructure of producing electricity and energy and sending it out into the country, that is an afterthought, right?

02:11:32.000 Like, the real purpose of DOE, Department of Energy, is nuclear weapons.

02:11:36.000 That is, I mean, it is, the Department of Energy is the direct descendant of the Manhattan Project, right?

02:11:43.000 I mean, and that's not anything, right?

02:11:45.000 That's just, if you look it up, right?

02:11:47.000 So DOE exists for nuclear weapons.

02:11:50.000 The power grid is very secondary.

02:11:52.000 It's an afterthought.

02:11:54.000 So that's why DOE owns most of the national labs, where we make everything.

02:11:59.000 It's a completely different entity.

02:12:01.000 And so DITRA works with DOE and DOD to basically keep track of where any potential weapon is.

02:12:12.000 I got a lot of interesting briefs and stuff that I can't really talk about, obviously.

02:12:16.000 I got really good briefs from the scientists at DOE at Los Alamos and Sandia National Labs.

02:12:22.000 And I was actually, to be completely honest, and I'm not just saying this like somebody's going to call me some deep state hack or something, and I'm not at all.

02:12:28.000 I mean, I've got plenty of criticism of the government, trust me.

02:12:32.000 If I was a deep state hack, I wouldn't be on this show.

02:12:36.000 Yeah.

02:12:38.000 I'd say that I was actually pretty impressed by the capabilities and the accountability that we have on things.

02:12:45.000 We keep a really tight lock.

02:12:47.000 But it's all very – there's a lot of things that you can see, but there's even more things that you can't see that are not obvious.

02:12:54.000 So when we talk about these drones flying overhead, look, I don't have the answer to say exactly what it is.

02:13:01.000 My best guess is it's a combination of probably some government incompetence.

02:13:07.000 A lot of these supposed – a lot of them are probably just civilian aircraft that people don't look up very often and then they see something and, hey, it could be a helicopter.

02:13:16.000 It could be a small plane.

02:13:17.000 They don't know what it is, but maybe there are some that like we don't know what that is either.

02:13:22.000 Why would they have flashing navigation lights, right?

02:13:24.000 Right.

02:13:27.000 And the thing is also, they would be followed by folks on the ground searching as well.

02:13:34.000 And they can do that pretty discreetly.

02:13:35.000 We learned to do that.

02:13:36.000 You can actually do search for things.

02:13:38.000 I mean, we had pretty cool, you know, manned portable radiation monitors that would just fit in a backpack.

02:13:45.000 And I had a little, you know, a little display here, and we would just walk around.

02:13:49.000 And if something popped up, It would start getting a ping.

02:13:53.000 And then we trained this all the time.

02:13:55.000 There was this really cool setup that they had training out at Sandia National Lab, which is at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, where they actually set up an entire mockup of a port facility.

02:14:05.000 It's out in the desert, but with a giant port facility with giant containers, just like container ships coming in.

02:14:10.000 Yeah.

02:14:13.000 hidden in there and we had to find it and we had to get very creative in finding it and then accessing that container and then defeating that nuclear weapon without getting ourselves killed.

02:14:28.000 It was a really fun one.

02:14:29.000 I'll be honest.

02:14:30.000 It was it was just one of those like very detailed problem solving with dire physical consequences.

02:14:38.000 But obviously, I can tell you that nobody that I know and we never did actually have to do our jobs for real because we all knew that we could probably die.

02:14:47.000 Yeah, I understand that.

02:14:48.000 And so much of what you said is absolutely fascinating to me.

02:14:51.000 I'm learning so much, and I've written down a couple of questions here.

02:14:53.000 The first thing that I want to ask you is...

02:14:57.000 I don't know anything about nuclear weaponry.

02:14:59.000 I don't know anything about nuclear energy.

02:15:02.000 My education on the matter basically can be reduced to the Chernobyl series on HBO. And so, given that the Soviet Union collapsed many decades ago...

02:15:13.000 And maybe some of these weapons disappeared.

02:15:16.000 Maybe they didn't.

02:15:16.000 Maybe they were allocated to allies and it was just under wraps, whatever.

02:15:21.000 What is the maintenance for something like this?

02:15:23.000 Because when I look at leaving weapons behind in Afghanistan, for example, there's a lot of equipment that we left behind when Joe Biden pulled us out that...

02:15:31.000 There's no infrastructure there for the locals or the natives to really maintain it properly. 0.99

02:15:36.000 So what happens if that helicopter breaks down?

02:15:37.000 Are you going to take it to the mechanic?

02:15:40.000 So I imagine that there's some degree of maintenance, maybe not, please tell me, that's required to keep a nuclear warhead from Soviet-era Russia functional over the course of several decades.

02:15:52.000 Is that true?

02:15:53.000 That's absolutely correct.

02:15:54.000 And even with our own weapons, you know, they have to go in.

02:15:57.000 They have regularly scheduled maintenance.

02:15:59.000 So my very first job in the military, coincidentally, before I was a Navy officer, I was actually an enlisted Marine.

02:16:05.000 And I worked my first job in the Marine Corps.

02:16:08.000 This was pre-9-11.

02:16:09.000 So I was 18, 19 years old.

02:16:13.000 As a 19, 20 years old, I worked at a submarine base up in Bangor, Washington.

02:16:20.000 Right, which is where we keep all of our West Coast nuclear missile submarines, right?

02:16:25.000 Like, think Crimson Tide, right?

02:16:28.000 I mean, that was Bangor Space.

02:16:29.000 I've actually been on board that boat, the USS Alabama.

02:16:32.000 And so that is actually last, it's one of, if not, it's in, it's about an hour outside of Seattle.

02:16:38.000 It's either the largest or one of the largest nuclear weapon storage facilities in the world.

02:16:45.000 So whenever these, you know, every submarine that we have, our Ohio-class submarines, they have 24 missile tubes, right?

02:16:54.000 And I think now the current, the D5 rockets, last I checked, each missile can carry anywhere from 8 to 12 warheads.

02:17:02.000 And so then those submarines, whenever they come into port, they'd have to offload the missiles off the submarine and then truck them on a flatbed truck about a mile up to what was called the limited area, right, which is a incredibly secure facility that my job was to guard that facility.

02:17:20.000 And we had guard towers and it was like 24 different types of alarms.

02:17:24.000 It was nothing like the border.

02:17:25.000 Nothing like the border, no.

02:17:28.000 No, no, no, no.

02:17:29.000 No, I mean, like, if a raccoon went near the fence line, which they often did, we knew about it.

02:17:34.000 I mean, it was extremely secure.

02:17:36.000 It was, you know, even my mom thought it was scary.

02:17:39.000 I said, Mom, it's the safest place in the world.

02:17:41.000 Well, the reason I bring this up is because if sophisticated maintenance is required to keep these weapons operational, then that implies an infrastructure that doesn't seem likely in the hands of rogue terrorist organizations, underfunded organizations, without some official state backing either directly or underfunded organizations, without some official state backing either directly or indirectly, which would undermine the argument that there's a Soviet era nuclear weapon inside the United States that these drones are looking for.

02:18:08.000 And also, yes, I concur.

02:18:11.000 And then the other aspect of that is that people said, oh, well, it was a nuclear weapon.

02:18:16.000 It was pulled out of Ukraine.

02:18:18.000 Now, the thing is, is after the fall of the Soviet Union, one of the first things that the United States was concerned about was that there were tons of nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

02:18:25.000 And when Ukraine was becoming an independent country, we had to make a deal.

02:18:29.000 And this is back in, what, 1990, 1991. We made a deal with the Russians and the Ukrainians saying like, hey, Russia, you take your nukes out. 0.87

02:18:39.000 Ukraine will protect you, so to speak, right?

02:18:42.000 And it was like part of a deal.

02:18:44.000 Ukraine was itself as a country was in no position then, they sure as hell aren't now, to possess nuclear weapons.

02:18:51.000 That's a bad, we don't need that.

02:18:52.000 Right.

02:18:53.000 And so all the Russians took all those weapons out and brought them into Russia proper. 0.98

02:19:01.000 So that was kind of part of a deal we made, right?

02:19:04.000 And so we actually do have—I was actually surprised at the amount of accountability we actually do have.

02:19:11.000 Just because we might not advertise that doesn't mean we don't have it.

02:19:15.000 And additionally, yes, those warheads need—I mean, if it was just sitting in some bunker for the past 30 years collecting rust, right?

02:19:24.000 And that was part of one of our jobs, was that, hey, maybe some terrorists did get a hold of something— And then we would have to run diagnostics on it.

02:19:32.000 The idea is that, you know, we come in with all these Army Special Forces guys, right?

02:19:35.000 Green Berets.

02:19:36.000 They kill all the bad guys.

02:19:37.000 This is like in the scenario how we play it, right?

02:19:39.000 And we secure the weapons.

02:19:41.000 And then my team and I, my EOD team, was four of us go to work.

02:19:45.000 And our job was to, we had all sorts of really interesting tools and diagnostics where we could, one, determine, okay, is this thing real?

02:19:54.000 Is it a hoax?

02:19:55.000 If it is real, is it functional?

02:19:57.000 And we were able to collect a lot of data and using communication methods that don't officially exist, we'd be able to transmit that to the smart guys at Los Alamos.

02:20:10.000 And Los Alamos had this really cool Dr. Evil command center that I got to see, where we transmitted them, and they would look at everything, and they'd probably say something like, no, it's not real, it's a hoax device, or We practice.

02:20:26.000 We train this.

02:20:27.000 Overseas with partner nations, we conduct an exercise where we put a fake nuclear weapon, a mock-up.

02:20:34.000 We play that whole game with role players.

02:20:36.000 My team and I would go to work, and then I'm transmitting.

02:20:39.000 I'm on my little Panasonic Toughbook.

02:20:41.000 I'm setting up a little camera where I'm essentially on FaceTime or Skype, where I'm looking at the weapon or the item, as we'd say.

02:20:51.000 We're taking x-rays and certain diagnostics.

02:20:53.000 I'm uploading that.

02:20:54.000 That goes to the smart people.

02:20:56.000 And they'll look at it and say, okay, no, it's a hoax device.

02:20:59.000 Or, yeah, it looks like they're trying to build something, but it won't pre-create a nuclear yield.

02:21:04.000 It's still under construction.

02:21:05.000 Or it's so damaged that, no, nothing's going to happen.

02:21:08.000 Or they might say something like, oh, yeah, you guys are good.

02:21:13.000 Just stay there.

02:21:14.000 No, just keep working.

02:21:15.000 You guys are fine.

02:21:16.000 Well, that makes a lot of sense.

02:21:18.000 So back to the drone thing specifically, probably not trying to detect a nuclear device.

02:21:24.000 We've only got about two minutes until the break.

02:21:25.000 I'm going to keep you for the next 30 minutes, too, after this break.

02:21:30.000 I've done a little bit of government contracting.

02:21:32.000 I worked for a company that was GSA certified at one point in time.

02:21:35.000 It was a company called Energetics Technology Center, and they did research for weapon defense systems and things of that nature as an intern when I was in college.

02:21:42.000 I know that there is tremendous amount of incentive for government contractors, government departments, agencies to exhaust the rest of their budget at the end of the year in order to justify getting the same budget the next year.

02:21:55.000 Is it possible that Space Force or whatever government entities are operating these drones are trying to run up the bill intentionally before the end of the year so that they can get the same funding in the next round?

02:22:08.000 I'll tell you this much.

02:22:09.000 The government runs on a different calendar.

02:22:12.000 The federal government, because I dealt with that exact same thing, but the government fiscal year ends in September, begins in October.

02:22:22.000 When it came to funding, because I had to deal with that exact same thing, whether it was our unit, whether it was either money or the other thing was ammunition.

02:22:29.000 If we had leftover ammunition, it was in September, we're like, hey, boys, let's go to the range.

02:22:35.000 We would just shoot everything.

02:22:38.000 They're handing us satchels a C4, like, go take it to the range and blow it up.

02:22:43.000 Everything is really fun.

02:22:44.000 But since the fiscal year ended in September, that's likely not the case with what's happening with these drones.

02:22:48.000 And I don't mean to cut you off, Tom.

02:22:50.000 It's just that we're coming up on a break in 30 seconds, and this is a good segue.

02:22:53.000 I'm going to get more into this on the other side and speculation.

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02:25:28.000 We are back on the Alex Jones Show.

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02:25:45.000 Tom Sauer is a former U.S. Navy Explosive Ordinance Disposal Officer, having graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 2006.

02:25:51.000 His military service involved handling some of the most dangerous bomb disposal tasks.

02:25:55.000 During his career, Tom, it's an honor and a pleasure to be with you.

02:25:59.000 I'm so grateful for your expertise and your insight.

02:26:01.000 I've learned so much in this broadcast already.

02:26:03.000 And the main reason I wanted to have you on is because you are a credible source saying that these drones are not looking for dirty bombs.

02:26:10.000 They're probably not detecting radiation, even if they do have the capability to do that.

02:26:14.000 There's other ways to do that that are more sophisticated.

02:26:15.000 We have proactive infrastructure in place that would likely prevent something like that from even getting here in the first place.

02:26:20.000 And even if these missing explosives from the Soviet era did exist, it's very likely that they were not maintained properly to even be functional in the first place.

02:26:28.000 So I agree with you.

02:26:29.000 I think there's something else going on here.

02:26:31.000 It's not because they're trying to exhaust funding.

02:26:33.000 The calendar year ended in September.

02:26:35.000 This seems like a psychological operation to me.

02:26:37.000 I'm biased toward thinking that because I work at InfoWars.

02:26:41.000 I don't think that because I work at InfoWars, but I work at InfoWars because I think like that, right?

02:26:45.000 I agree with you.

02:26:46.000 And so I think that hindsight's going to be 20-20 on this, but very alarming and bizarre the way that our government has talked about this.

02:26:53.000 I want to bring up one thing before I get some more of your thoughts on what's going on with this drone stuff.

02:26:58.000 You mentioned that you were stationed in Japan.

02:27:00.000 You were involved in neutralizing explosive threats.

02:27:05.000 I have a close friend who was a cyber intelligence officer, and his background is in audio engineering and mind-sweeping technology in the Pacific specifically.

02:27:18.000 So when I heard that you were in Japan, and knowing what my friend has been telling me for over a decade now about Chinese naval capabilities and concerns about how superior they are to where we are in the Navy now at least.

02:27:32.000 And I know that whenever you attack the United States, it awakens a sleeping giant, and we could probably bounce back quickly.

02:27:37.000 But were you involved in any work that was not just the neutralization of terrorist threats and terrorist weapons of mass destruction, but were you involved in any capacity to our defense efforts, our proactive defense efforts as they pertain to China as a threat?

02:27:54.000 Very much so.

02:27:55.000 So after I finished that tour with Charlie 1-1, which is that unit.

02:28:01.000 Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 1st Special Forces Group out of Okinawa.

02:28:05.000 I did a staff job.

02:28:06.000 And I was based in Coronado.

02:28:09.000 Lovely Coronado.

02:28:09.000 And I spent a lot of time doing planning for what are called O plans.

02:28:16.000 So which are the operation plans.

02:28:18.000 We call them O plans.

02:28:19.000 And so what those are, those are the war plans in the event of war with name and adversary.

02:28:26.000 Right.

02:28:27.000 So and we have a plan for just about anything.

02:28:32.000 Of any major war.

02:28:34.000 And that is actually how the US military is organized and funded.

02:28:39.000 So we've got an O plan for war with North Korea. 0.89

02:28:43.000 We have an O plan for war with China, especially like a Taiwan scenario. 1.00

02:28:49.000 Can't go into too much detail about that, but I was involved in the drafting and the writing of the latest, well, at the time, 10 years ago, which was the latest iteration.

02:28:59.000 Would we win?

02:29:02.000 Yes, we would, because we always win in the scenario on paper.

02:29:06.000 We only win world wars. 0.78

02:29:08.000 Right.

02:29:08.000 And so I was involved.

02:29:11.000 It was really interesting because the Korea plan I spent a lot of time on, which was the North Korea plan.

02:29:15.000 But the whole idea behind it is that you get all the generals and the admirals together and all their staff and they say, OK, based on what we know about the enemy and their capabilities, they can do this.

02:29:26.000 What do how would we do it?

02:29:28.000 And that those plans would drive what we call requirements, right?

02:29:33.000 Requirements is, hey, we need X number of tanks, battalions, ships, jets, missiles, bombs.

02:29:39.000 We need a capability to do this and then how many we need.

02:29:44.000 And that is what drives funding for the military, right?

02:29:48.000 I mean, that's kind of how it flows, right?

02:29:50.000 You've got the plans, the war plans, that drive the requirements.

02:29:54.000 And that requirement drives funding.

02:29:56.000 So that's kind of how the DOD is funded in many ways because the military puts out requirements saying, hey, we need a jet that can fly this high, this fast.

02:30:04.000 We need missiles that can do this and this and this, right?

02:30:07.000 And then those go out to the contractors.

02:30:09.000 They bill it.

02:30:10.000 I mean, and obviously it's an incredibly complex, convoluted process.

02:30:14.000 But, I mean, to break it down Barney style, that's kind of what happens, right?

02:30:18.000 So I was involved in those plans and with China.

02:30:21.000 So one of the things that's, you know, What I'm happy to talk about is that the Chinese Navy has the largest and most sophisticated inventory of naval mines in the world.

02:30:36.000 And also, fun pointing out and speaking as a naval officer is that More ships, more U.S. Navy ships have been damaged or destroyed since the end of World War II from naval mines than they have from missiles, torpedoes.

02:30:51.000 Were those mines planted during World War II or are they newly planted mines?

02:30:56.000 They're not laid.

02:30:56.000 The plans are not – no, the mines have not been laid, but they have a mine-laying capability, right?

02:31:02.000 And so what they're really – and especially the really sophisticated ones are meant to be deepwater mines.

02:31:07.000 And a lot of them are actually the Chinese, the really advanced Chinese ones, which are mostly knockoffs of Russian ones. 0.97

02:31:13.000 The Russians were very good at this.

02:31:15.000 It is meant to kill our submarines.

02:31:18.000 That's what they're really going to go after.

02:31:19.000 So then that is primarily what we would try to go against.

02:31:24.000 But then there would also be opportunities where they could go after American landing craft, like in a Korea scenario, stuff like that.

02:31:34.000 Well, let me ask you this.

02:31:34.000 If an ocean bed mine...

02:31:39.000 Hits one of our submarines.

02:31:40.000 Let's just say that it happens now and everybody on board dies.

02:31:44.000 Does the public ever hear that story?

02:31:46.000 Yeah, they will.

02:31:47.000 They would.

02:31:48.000 Yeah, and that would be a tremendous act of war.

02:31:49.000 And here's one thing as well is that I remember publicly the former US PACOM commanders, now Indo PACOM, which was the four star admiral.

02:31:57.000 His name was Admiral Locklear at the time.

02:32:00.000 He was, you know, he had, and the Indo-PACOM commander essentially has what General MacArthur's old job was, right?

02:32:09.000 He's in charge of every military asset, as we would say, from Hollywood to Bollywood, right?

02:32:16.000 That entire swath of the world.

02:32:18.000 So, and he said very publicly, I am not going to send a US national asset into a minefield.

02:32:28.000 Right?

02:32:28.000 Because we're not going to risk it.

02:32:30.000 We're not going to risk one of our submarines going into a minefield.

02:32:34.000 Not going to do it.

02:32:35.000 So what it comes down to is one of the phrases we talk about is A2AD, all these silly military acronyms and jargon.

02:32:43.000 It's called, what is it?

02:32:48.000 It's basically meant what the mines really do is they're really there to deny us access to get to a certain part of water, right?

02:32:58.000 Because we know, okay, this area might be mined.

02:33:00.000 It's going to take forever and a day to clear those mines because our mine clearing capability is not up to snuff.

02:33:08.000 Not enough dolphins in the world.

02:33:11.000 Right.

02:33:11.000 We actually got rid of that program.

02:33:13.000 It was the only thing, by the way, in Korea, one of the things we planned for, the Korea scenario, is that the water around Korea is actually incredibly shallow and murky, silty.

02:33:25.000 So if the North Koreans were to lay mines, like to protect a beachhead, They would sink, and they'd self-bury in a matter of days. 0.88

02:33:33.000 And the only proven capability that we actually have to find a buried mine that's sunk, that's been buried after time, it just sinks after a few days, is a dolphin.

02:33:46.000 And we got rid of that program, the MMS, the Marine Mammal System.

02:33:49.000 I think it was the Mark 7?

02:33:51.000 I can't remember.

02:33:52.000 But the Marine Mammal System, right?

02:33:54.000 And we have some other technological capabilities, but it would be very, very slow.

02:33:59.000 And so, and also, so my little brother is currently an active duty U.S. Navy EOD officer, also stationed in Japan, and he is on a staff these days.

02:34:09.000 He's pretty senior nowadays.

02:34:11.000 He's actually been in longer than I have, than I was.

02:34:15.000 And one of his units' job is to try to figure out, hey, if we had to clear mines in Korea or have to clear mines around Taiwan, how would we do that?

02:34:25.000 And I can say this publicly, is our capabilities are not as strong as we would like them to be.

02:34:31.000 Sure.

02:34:32.000 And that is where you get the real frustration.

02:34:35.000 I'll tie this into a lot of issues you hear about military and the things that Secretary of Defense Select Pete Hegseth talks about, is that You know, he talks a lot about the woke stuff and the DEI stuff, right?

02:34:47.000 And so I talk to my brother about this all the time.

02:34:48.000 He's one of my closest friends as well.

02:34:50.000 And he'll agree that all that DEI and the woke crap, it's stupid, right?

02:34:55.000 It's really stupid, but that's not the real problem.

02:34:58.000 Like, the real problems that we have in the military is poor use of resources, right?

02:35:05.000 I mean, there's tons of money going around, trust me.

02:35:07.000 Almost like you need a Department of Government efficiency.

02:35:10.000 Right.

02:35:11.000 Maybe.

02:35:12.000 Maybe.

02:35:12.000 Right.

02:35:13.000 And to actual, for the actual capability.

02:35:15.000 So, you know, we've got ships right now where maintenance is falling behind, where equipment breaks, and there's only like two or three guys in the world that know how to fix it, because it's really niche and sophisticated.

02:35:25.000 It's going to take them weeks, months to get out there to fix it.

02:35:28.000 Oh, we need another part.

02:35:29.000 And then all of a sudden, it just costs money and money and money.

02:35:32.000 So we're not prepared for a major conflict in the Pacific?

02:35:36.000 No.

02:35:38.000 I would say this, and this is one thing I think that most of my friends would agree, is it would get really ugly in the beginning.

02:35:45.000 Yeah, just like World War II. It was ugly in the beginning, too, and we ramped up. 0.98

02:35:49.000 So, based on your experience and your work with government and with these agencies and departments...

02:35:58.000 And explosives and all these things.

02:36:00.000 If you had to guess, and I'm disclaiming this as speculative, if you had to guess what's going on with these drones being seen in the tri-state area specifically, what do you think?

02:36:12.000 I think it probably could be a combination of hobbyists who are having fun scaring people.

02:36:20.000 I think it could be a combination and also a lack of I think a little bit of hysteria can set in.

02:36:37.000 Maybe there are.

02:36:38.000 There are some drones running around.

02:36:40.000 Nobody really knows what they are.

02:36:42.000 Can't really identify them.

02:36:43.000 But then also people start looking at them and anything they see in the sky is now some mystery drone.

02:36:49.000 Right, right.

02:36:49.000 Everybody's been looking at their phones.

02:36:50.000 But now that all the headlines are about these, these drones are looking up at the same time and capturing anything they see.

02:36:56.000 It might just be a Cessna up there or a helicopter or something.

02:37:00.000 And so I think it really comes down to just a lack of detection capability.

02:37:05.000 We don't really know what it is.

02:37:06.000 And one hand is never talking to the other.

02:37:09.000 Many such cases in the government.

02:37:11.000 Right, right.

02:37:12.000 Yeah, so I usually don't go to the dangerous conspiracy first.

02:37:20.000 That's usually not where I first jump.

02:37:24.000 Never attribute to malice, which you could very easily attribute to ignorance or incompetence.

02:37:30.000 Right.

02:37:31.000 Right?

02:37:31.000 That's usually the case.

02:37:32.000 Well, there's certainly a lot of consumers that are flying their drones in response to these sightings.

02:37:37.000 So I'm sure that that ratio has shifted and balanced out since the onset.

02:37:41.000 But it seems like initially something sophisticated and official is going on.

02:37:45.000 And then briefly, they tried to make it sound like it was an Iranian mothership of drones.

02:37:50.000 I think that was kind of debunked.

02:37:51.000 It was bizarre that they even said that for a day.

02:37:53.000 But I don't know what's going on with this.

02:37:56.000 It seems bizarre to me.

02:37:58.000 It seems like it could have been.

02:38:01.000 A war of the worlds-esque attempt where they were trying to alarm people in order to justify legislation for increased drone control because maybe they don't want Chinese drones flown here legally because of all the data that goes back to China.

02:38:13.000 I don't know.

02:38:14.000 But I think that hindsight will prove 2020 on this.

02:38:16.000 Now, we've got about 10 minutes left, and in the last five minutes or so, I want to give you a chance to talk about the work that you're doing.

02:38:21.000 But before that, I would be remiss not to ask you about this.

02:38:24.000 I've been looking into and trying to pay attention to what's been going on with Africa.

02:38:28.000 I found it bizarre that For a period of time, Blinken was having all these meetings with African leaders coming out and talking about humanitarian rights and gay rights in African countries.

02:38:41.000 It seems very unrelated to what's going on.

02:38:45.000 So whenever I see something like that, I think, all right, why is it that Blinken is making excuses to get involved with Africa?

02:38:52.000 Now, we've seen this conflict with Israel and We've seen this conflict with Ukraine and Russia escalate.

02:39:00.000 A lot of people are tying it back to Iran.

02:39:02.000 Iran has for a long time been accused of being the source of terrorism basically throughout the Middle East.

02:39:08.000 My question for you is, what's happening with uranium in Africa being exported to Iran?

02:39:22.000 I mean, I think it sounds kind of obvious, right?

02:39:26.000 I mean, look, the Iranians obviously want to have not just nuclear weapons, but nuclear delivery capability. 0.94

02:39:35.000 You don't think that they already have nukes?

02:39:37.000 And maybe you know and you can't tell me.

02:39:40.000 I find it hard to believe that Israel and Iran don't have nuclear weapons. 0.97

02:39:45.000 I'm quite confident that the Israelis do, obviously, right?

02:39:48.000 And I think they've got some – and also it's really interesting, though, it's not just having a warhead.

02:39:54.000 It's having it small enough and having the delivery capability, right?

02:39:59.000 And so, yeah, I think they are trying to get more uranium.

02:40:03.000 Here's something that I read in a story.

02:40:05.000 Maybe you could find it.

02:40:06.000 I read that I thought was really interesting was that one of the things that certain intelligence – Units, I guess, in the military have done.

02:40:16.000 I read this, and I thought it was interesting.

02:40:20.000 Maybe we're looking at it.

02:40:21.000 We would do things like sell through a third party, right?

02:40:26.000 We would end up selling phony material to our enemies, right?

02:40:31.000 So, for example, we were able to slow down at least the North Korean nuclear program by swapping out cobalt and That the North Koreans need to use. 0.86

02:40:42.000 So in order to create a pit, right, you need to have – it needs to be melted down into a crucible, and that crucible needs to be involved like some – I can't remember the exact specific type of cobalt, if I remember correctly.

02:40:55.000 It's heat-resistant that will not interfere with uranium, and we would sell them adulterated cobalt.

02:41:04.000 They thought they were getting a good product from some nefarious dealer, and we made sure that they got something that didn't work.

02:41:11.000 So then, when they put it into the crucibles to create the pits, the crucibles broke, and you had molten uranium go all over the place.

02:41:19.000 But you can follow that supply chain then and know what they're actually trying to do.

02:41:24.000 Right.

02:41:24.000 And so I think that's part of that supply chain.

02:41:26.000 So that's one of the things that we do.

02:41:27.000 We interfere with it all the time.

02:41:29.000 During the troubles, the British would use this with the IRA, would, you know, through, you know, surreptitious swap out, they'd, you know, sell loud explosives or certain devices that either wouldn't detonate or they'd make sure that the bomb would detonate on the bomb maker when he's putting it together, stuff like that.

02:41:45.000 So, I do know that we are taking active steps there because in Africa – and all you got to keep in mind is another power that is asserting themselves – well, two powers that are asserting themselves in Africa is China, obviously.

02:41:58.000 You've probably heard plenty of that.

02:41:59.000 And also Russia.

02:42:00.000 They're trying to assert themselves and create problems for us in other parts of the country, right?

02:42:05.000 Because – Yeah.

02:42:12.000 Yeah.

02:42:13.000 want, okay, well, you're gonna mess with us. 0.92

02:42:14.000 We're gonna see if we can mess with you. 1.00

02:42:16.000 So I wouldn't be surprised at all if something like that's happening.

02:42:19.000 Yeah, I mean, it's not good.

02:42:24.000 Let me ask you this.

02:42:24.000 You've been in this space for a long time.

02:42:27.000 Obviously, I trust you.

02:42:28.000 You're an honest, earnest guy.

02:42:31.000 Though I'm opposed to the deep state, I understand that in any of these organizations or institutions, there are white hats and there are black hats.

02:42:37.000 That's just the way it is in any business, private, whatever.

02:42:40.000 It just seems like this administration specifically really wants to escalate the conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

02:42:50.000 What is your perspective as somewhat of an insider in the space on whether or not our military industrial complex actually wants all-out war with Russia or China?

02:43:03.000 That's a great question.

02:43:04.000 I would say right now that you can probably tell the Biden administration is doing everything they can for these next, what, 34 days or so to hand, you know, when the new Trump admin takes over, to hand us a, you know, hand the Trump admin a giant steaming pile of garbage.

02:43:22.000 Yes.

02:43:23.000 Right?

02:43:23.000 And to set them up for failure as much as they possibly can.

02:43:27.000 And then that's what's gonna happen.

02:43:28.000 I mean, you know, even when...

02:43:31.000 When George Bush took over in the Clinton White House, the staff would remove all the W keys from the keyboard.

02:43:38.000 They thought it was funny.

02:43:39.000 That's about as bad as it got these days to try to burn the world down in order to set up the Trump admin for failure.

02:43:48.000 diminish them as much as possible.

02:43:49.000 I mean, they don't want there to be, they don't want the Trump admin to succeed.

02:43:53.000 Obviously not.

02:43:54.000 Yeah.

02:43:55.000 But do they actually want to escalate the conflict?

02:43:57.000 I mean, is there a concern over Russia being a nuclear power and something of an authoritarian state given that eventually Putin's gonna have to retire and there's no way of knowing who's gonna replace him and have all that nuclear power?

02:44:11.000 I think that's what they're really trying to do.

02:44:13.000 And also keep in mind, the military industrial complex does not thrive under peace.

02:44:16.000 Right.

02:44:17.000 Right?

02:44:17.000 I mean, six months, was it?

02:44:19.000 Six months after we got out of Afghanistan horribly, right?

02:44:24.000 Six months later, hey, a new market opened up in Ukraine.

02:44:28.000 Right.

02:44:32.000 Remember, the military-industrial complex, and I don't think it's necessarily some giant conspiracy.

02:44:37.000 I think it's just people are incentives-driven, right?

02:44:39.000 They're incentivized for there to be conflict.

02:44:41.000 It's the national way in which a large industry operates without any one person actually calling the shots.

02:44:47.000 It's just going to play out that way.

02:44:49.000 So we've got about four or five minutes left.

02:44:52.000 Tom, and I want to give you the opportunity to tell the audience a little bit about what you're working on now, what you're doing, and direct them to where they can support you, follow you.

02:45:00.000 I appreciate that.

02:45:01.000 So when I got out of the Navy, I started along with one of my Naval Academy classmates.

02:45:06.000 So to go back a little bit, my father died of a drug overdose right before I left for the military.

02:45:11.000 And so that always really impacted me quite a bit.

02:45:15.000 And then when I got out, I started a company along with my classmate.

02:45:21.000 We provide very intensive mental health and addiction treatment for veterans.

02:45:26.000 And so we are a contractor with the Department of Veterans Affairs.

02:45:29.000 And I know that everyone loves to crap on VA all the time.

02:45:34.000 And I get it, right?

02:45:35.000 I mean, I've had my frustrations with them as well.

02:45:37.000 And most certainly the veterans that we take care of have a lot of frustrations with them.

02:45:41.000 But I'll say that by and large, the people that we work with, like the boots on the ground folks, the nurses, the therapists, the social workers are amazing people.

02:45:50.000 And they've really had their hands tied in the past couple of years, especially the past six or eight months.

02:45:58.000 Because, again, the Biden administration is trying to make things as difficult as possible.

02:46:03.000 So they are not following what's called the VA Mission Act, right?

02:46:07.000 And so the VA Mission Act is what allows veterans who want to receive care, either mental health care or addiction treatment, And they're in really bad shape.

02:46:16.000 This isn't like the guys that we're talking about are not, hey, I think I drink too much and I'm arguing with my wife.

02:46:21.000 These are guys that are near death or they're gonna go back to prison or they've had a suicide attempt or contemplating suicide.

02:46:30.000 And so we provide a lot of that treatment for them.

02:46:32.000 And so that's why I gotta say when Trump won 2020 or the 2024 election, we were doing cartwheels.

02:46:38.000 We were absolutely Yeah, and that right there, that's my testimony before the House Veterans Affairs Committee last year.

02:46:46.000 And so we talked a lot about that.

02:46:47.000 Wow, you guys are good.

02:46:50.000 So we are overjoyed, not only that the Trump administration is back in power, but also that we've got Doug Collins, who's gonna be the next Secretary of VA. And I've been dialed into a lot of the conservative movement in Trump world, mostly through, at my old unit, there was a junior intelligence analyst named Jack Posobiec, who was not very, that's how I got dialed in on it.

02:47:12.000 Did he say happy birthday to him the other day?

02:47:14.000 I did.

02:47:15.000 Yeah, I did.

02:47:16.000 And he made fun of me.

02:47:17.000 We joked about it.

02:47:17.000 Yeah, it was good.

02:47:18.000 So right after Alex keeled over at the podium at the Young Republican Club dinner, he just texted me back about it.

02:47:26.000 But anyways, that's how I got dialed in all this.

02:47:29.000 So this week, I'm actually going back to Mar-a-Lago and to meet with some important people, names you'd probably definitely recognize.

02:47:38.000 And we're really pushing hard to make sure that not only Doug Collins, the next VA Secretary, really understands the problem, but we're also pushing hard to have one of the candidates who is up to be the Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs named Darren Selnick.

02:47:52.000 And he is a senior advisor at Concerned Veterans for America.

02:47:56.000 He worked really closely with Pete Hegseth when Pete was the executive director.

02:48:01.000 And he is absolutely the right choice to be the deputy secretary.

02:48:04.000 So he knows where the bodies are buried at VA.

02:48:07.000 He knows how the sausage is made.

02:48:09.000 And I'm quite confident that he needs to be the guy to really fix tons of the problems in VA and to really make VA great again.

02:48:17.000 I mean, it is a great organization.

02:48:20.000 It's a lot of people who are trying their best, but usually they got their hands tied by middle management and upper management.

02:48:26.000 Many such cases.

02:48:27.000 Yeah.

02:48:28.000 You know, it's just like the military, right?

02:48:30.000 Just like the FBI. You've got ranking.

02:48:32.000 I got a couple of friends who are in the FBI, right?

02:48:35.000 And they hate what the hell has been going on there.

02:48:37.000 They're overjoyed that Kash Patel might be the next director, right?

02:48:41.000 But usually one of those problems are really up near the top.

02:48:43.000 So the fact that we're having a new regime come in to the VA with Doug Collins and honestly with Darren Selenick by his side, that'll be absolutely huge.

02:48:50.000 So I look forward to talking to some key people, names you've heard of, that everyone listening to this has heard of, and just kind of really kind of hope that they make the right choice.

02:49:00.000 I'm sure that they will.

02:49:01.000 Well, Tom Sauer, it's been an honor and a pleasure to have you on The Alex Jones Show.

02:49:06.000 Thank you so much for being so generous with your time and sharing your knowledge and expertise on these critical developments and matters that are unfolding before this crucial inauguration takes place on January 20th.

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02:55:34.000 This is an emergency transmission from deep in the heart of Texas to U.S. resistance against a global corporate combine empowered and funded by Communist China, allied with the big mega banks that set up Communist China in 1949.

02:55:50.000 The Communist Chinese have taken control of U.S. telecommunications infrastructure. 0.99

02:55:55.000 The Communist Chinese have taken control of Hollywood. 1.00

02:55:57.000 The comics challenge to control the main universities.

02:56:00.000 This is all confirmed.

02:56:01.000 This is not a drill.

02:56:02.000 Big tech in Silicon Valley is almost completely run by the Communist Chinese government.

02:56:06.000 They've officially become state run.

02:56:08.000 Apple 100%.

02:56:09.000 Google is now making the transition and announcing a merger in total worldwide censorship.

02:56:15.000 They are now beta testing using me as the straw man, a demonized version of Alex Jones to do that.

02:56:20.000 This is happening.

02:56:21.000 This is not like the other probes before that were meant to get you used to probes and censorship, thinking you would adapt to censorship by just putting up with it.

02:56:29.000 Now this attack is thousands and thousands and thousands of times the magnitude of all previous attacks.

02:56:35.000 This is a titrated dose, reverse psychological warfare operation using adapt and overcome subversion paradigm manipulation.

02:56:43.000 In layman's terms, they are manipulating the fact that we adapt to being oppressed.

02:56:47.000 We adapt to being pressed at the low dosages of oppression.

02:56:51.000 Now when the megaton hits us of the total takeover, we try to adapt to the poison infusion instead of not knowing it's a lethal dose if we accept the dose.

02:57:01.000 The total Internet of Things integration, global social score, complete command and control system.

02:57:06.000 It is the virtual reality AI weapon system now attacking the United States with traitors inside the major security agencies, blocking Trump's resistance of the program and attempting to stop us from removing the tentacles of the Chai Com slash Big Tech banking combine emergency situation.

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02:58:09.000 Only your full understanding of this.

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02:58:14.000 I have given you the transmission.

02:58:16.000 Now break free!

02:58:20.000 I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

02:58:30.000 Thomas Jefferson.

02:58:32.000 If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance.

02:58:38.000 The administration is trying to sell it for five cents on the dollar, knowing that we're getting ready to put it up.

02:58:44.000 And what they're doing is really an act, it's almost a criminal act.

02:58:50.000 They know we're gonna use it, and if we don't have it, we're gonna have to rebuild it.

02:58:55.000 And it'll cost double what it cost years ago, and that's hundreds of millions of dollars, because you're talking about a lot of wall.

02:59:04.000 I built much more than I said I was gonna build.

02:59:06.000 But then, after it was built, I said, we can do some more, because it's sort of like water, people flow through.

02:59:14.000 And that will pretty much really take care of it.

02:59:17.000 And what happened is they just, as you see, they're trying to sell it for five cents of the dollar.

02:59:22.000 And that's really, that has nothing to do with a smooth transition.

02:59:28.000 That has to do with people really trying to stop our nation.

02:59:32.000 And all it means really is that we're gonna spend hundreds of millions of dollars more Not even talking about the time.

02:59:41.000 Time would be pretty long.

02:59:43.000 But we'll spend hundreds of millions of dollars more on building the same wall that we already have.

02:59:50.000 And people have already come back to us that have deals at five cents and four cents and one guy at three cents on the dollar.

02:59:59.000 And they offered to sell it back to us at more money than it costs us to build substantially.

03:00:06.000 Can you believe it?

03:00:07.000 So they make a deal with the United States to buy it for pennies.

03:00:10.000 And then they call us and they say, do you want to buy it back?

03:00:14.000 We'll sell it back to you for hundreds of dollars a foot.

03:00:18.000 Hundreds of dollars from pennies to hundreds of dollars a foot.

03:00:23.000 And we can't let this take place.

03:00:25.000 Now, we're gonna go.

03:00:26.000 I spoke with the Attorney General of Texas.

03:00:27.000 I spoke to the senators of Texas.

03:00:30.000 I spoke to a lot of people.

03:00:31.000 And hopefully they'll be able to stop.

03:00:34.000 We're gonna be having a restraining order.

03:00:36.000 But just think about how ridiculous it is.

03:00:38.000 And this is just people that don't want this country to succeed.

03:00:42.000 And this has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican.

03:00:45.000 This has to do with Common sense.

03:00:48.000 We won on common sense, and this is maybe one of the most egregious examples I've seen.

03:00:54.000 So the people that are buying it or trying to buy it or trying to make a deal with us to sell it back at hundreds of times more, hundreds of times more than we paid.

03:01:05.000 And this is all because the Democrats.

03:01:08.000 So I'm asking today Joe Biden to please stop selling the wall.

03:01:13.000 We're going to use that to create a strong barrier And it worked.

03:01:19.000 That's why our numbers were so good.

03:01:20.000 It really worked, and it worked well.

03:01:23.000 And it's very expensive to do.

03:01:25.000 And I'm asking Joe Biden to stop his people from giving it away.

03:01:30.000 It's something that people can't even believe is happening.

03:01:35.000 So hopefully Joe will be able to stop it.

03:01:38.000 We'll soon unleash American energy, and this will be done at levels not seen.

03:01:46.000 Total sabotage.

03:01:48.000 Just like Tom Sauer said in the last hour.

03:01:52.000 They're doing everything they can to undermine the Trump administration because they don't want to see Trump succeed.

03:01:57.000 And I think that we made it pretty clear.

03:01:59.000 Between Ian Carroll's conversation and Tom Sauer's conversation in the last couple of hours, that these drones are not looking for a dirty bomb.

03:02:07.000 They're not looking for a radioactive nuclear weapon.

03:02:10.000 We already have way more sophisticated and proactive ways of detecting these devices.

03:02:14.000 And even if they did exist from the Soviet era, they would likely not be functional because of the amount of resources and infrastructure needed in order to maintain these devices.

03:02:25.000 Something else is going on With these drones.

03:02:29.000 And yes, of course, it's the case that now that the story has received so much attention, there are hobbyists out there with their own drones flying them in the sky.

03:02:37.000 And the Kirby's and the Mayorkas of the world can say, most of them are just commercial hobbyists or recreational hobbyists in the area. 0.99

03:02:45.000 Maybe that's true now, but it wasn't true the first week that this was happening.

03:02:51.000 The hobbyists that are flying now are flying in response to the story.

03:02:53.000 The story is not in response to the hobbyists.

03:02:55.000 It doesn't make any sense that everybody decided to fly their drone on the same day or the same couple of days.

03:03:00.000 Out of nowhere all of the sudden.

03:03:02.000 The story triggered these events.

03:03:06.000 So what is going on?

03:03:08.000 Seems to me likely a war of the world's attempt.

03:03:12.000 I think what's happening is Is our government, our deep state understands that these escalations with Russia and China and Iran are dangerously close to manifesting into World War III. And maybe that's what they want. 0.72

03:03:27.000 They certainly can make a lot of money, as Tom Sauer said in the last segment of World Wars, of any conflict.

03:03:31.000 There's not a lot of money in war if you're not at war.

03:03:36.000 And what is a major security threat to the United States?

03:03:40.000 Well, Chinese intelligence.

03:03:41.000 Why is it that our government has been so antagonistic toward TikTok?

03:03:45.000 Well, Chinese intelligence, allegedly.

03:03:48.000 And how many of these drones are manufactured in China?

03:03:54.000 DJI, I believe those drones are made in China.

03:03:56.000 That's one of the most popular brands, certainly one of the first to market for consumer-grade drones over 10 years ago.

03:04:03.000 So if the government wants to hyper-regulate drone technology made in China, used by consumers because they're concerned over data or classified information being transmitted from these drones, perhaps unwittingly, from those who use them to the CCP in the context of World War III being imminent...

03:04:28.000 Then it would make sense that they would try to manufacture a public scare with all of these drones in the sky in order to justify legislation around regulating away this intelligence vulnerability.

03:04:47.000 So I believe at this point, this juncture in this story, in this development, that we have arrived at a place Where we are so close to World War III that our government is performing psychological operations on the public in an attempt to get public support for legislation similar to how they did for the Patriot Act that will decrease China's ability to surveil the United States through these recreational, 0.80

03:05:18.000 commercial, or consumer-grade drones.

03:05:22.000 That ties right in with the TikTok thing.

03:05:26.000 And the fact that it's gotten to this point where we don't want China to have access to drone data of drones flying over neighborhoods because supply chains are changing, things are moving around on the continent in preparation for these conflict escalations is absolutely terrifying.

03:05:46.000 And all we can do is hope and pray that World War III doesn't start before January 20th.

03:05:57.000 I really hope that Trump doesn't get inaugurated and go into office having to deal with a conflict that has already gone hot.

03:06:04.000 All right, I'm going to go straight to Eric in New York.

03:06:07.000 Eric, what is on your mind, sir?

03:06:10.000 Thanks for taking my call.

03:06:11.000 I'd like to make two points.

03:06:12.000 This is Eric from courtroomwatch.org.

03:06:14.000 Number one, don't forget the motto of the New World Order is order out of chaos.

03:06:21.000 And through chaos, they can usually distract us from something that's going on that they don't want us to see.

03:06:26.000 Well, sure enough, I went over and looked at what Congress is doing.

03:06:29.000 Right now, they're reauthorizing the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes using the military against the American people.

03:06:37.000 I'm far more worried about that than I am about the Chinese, the Russians, or the Iranians. 0.57

03:06:42.000 And the Senate has agreed to a resolution to limit debate on that issue.

03:06:48.000 So they don't even want to debate it.

03:06:49.000 They don't want to talk about it.

03:06:50.000 So while everybody's looking up at the drone swarm, Congress is pulling all kinds of chicanery. 0.91

03:06:56.000 The second thing I wanted to mention, and then I'll get off and let another caller come in.

03:07:00.000 There was a gentleman up here in upstate New York who went into the hospital for a series of tests.

03:07:05.000 That included x-rays.

03:07:06.000 And on his way home, he was driving down a country road, and a New York State trooper passed him, immediately turned around, hit his lights, and pulled the guy over.

03:07:15.000 The guy said, geez, why'd you pull me over?

03:07:17.000 I don't think I was speeding.

03:07:18.000 And the trooper said, have you been to the hospital recently for any testing?

03:07:22.000 And the guy said, yeah, as a matter of fact, I'm just on my way home from having some x-rays done.

03:07:27.000 Well, it turns out there was enough residue from the x-rays On this gentleman's body for the New York State Troopers' radiation detecting equipment to pick up on that and cause him to pull this guy over.

03:07:40.000 So I thought that was an interesting tidbit to offer on the radiation detection situation.

03:07:45.000 Great call, Eric, for so many reasons.

03:07:47.000 Fascinating story on the end, and good point.

03:07:48.000 Usually chaos is a distraction from what's really going on.

03:07:52.000 It's certainly a useful diversion for those who seek to conspire against the American people, the interests of humanity.

03:07:58.000 I want to show clips 24 and 25 back-to-back.

03:08:01.000 This is Schumer responding to the drones and talking a little bit about the Defense Authorization Act, followed by Tim Burchett making remarks as well.

03:08:08.000 Let's watch.

03:08:10.000 Sir, as the author of the UAP Amendment, the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act, you, among anybody, should be calling these what they are.

03:08:20.000 We don't know they're drones, correct?

03:08:22.000 They are UAPs. 0.87

03:08:23.000 Why aren't they being called UAPs?

03:08:25.000 We don't know if they're UAPs.

03:08:28.000 We don't know what they are.

03:08:29.000 That's what we're trying to find out.

03:08:31.000 Nobody knows what they are.

03:08:34.000 We have to find out.

03:08:35.000 Senator, are these U.S. military drones?

03:08:38.000 We don't believe they're, no, we do not believe they are U.S. military drones, or the military would have told us that.

03:08:44.000 Why have a propulsion been taken sooner?

03:08:46.000 Why now?

03:08:47.000 Why have a propulsion been taken?

03:08:48.000 Well, all of a sudden, they're in the skies all over the place, and so we've got to find answers, and then the legislation will provide much more authority as to where and when drones can fly.

03:08:58.000 Right now, there is no authority to that, because there are so many hobbyists and everybody else who flies drones.

03:09:03.000 So you've got to figure out how to do it.

03:09:05.000 Have you spoken with top government leaders about the possibilities involved with non-human intelligence?

03:09:11.000 Look, we have spoken with top government leaders about finding the answers to what these are.

03:09:16.000 We don't know what they are.

03:09:17.000 No more, sir.

03:09:19.000 Let other people, okay?

03:09:20.000 When will you have a definitive answer of where they're coming from?

03:09:25.000 The sooner the better.

03:09:26.000 We've talked to the Homeland Security and the FBI and told them we need answers quickly.

03:09:33.000 Hey everybody, Tim Burchett.

03:09:35.000 Just leaving the House floor.

03:09:36.000 It's raining.

03:09:37.000 And I can go this way and do my video and not be hassled.

03:09:41.000 Hey, we just passed the NDAA, National Events Authorization Act.

03:09:48.000 I voted against it.

03:09:49.000 There's a half a billion dollars in there, literally, of foreign aid.

03:09:53.000 And that's kind of what y'all voted in such large numbers against.

03:09:59.000 Tired of us being everywhere.

03:10:01.000 There's, they allow you to travel for abortions, or they, you know, the paid or whatever to move you around so you can get that.

03:10:09.000 There's just, the transgender language, I was told by a couple of attorneys on the House floor was poorly written.

03:10:16.000 I think it had some holes in it.

03:10:19.000 To make it all matters worse, nine billion new dollars.

03:10:25.000 Senate over the Senate, it comes back with all that added on.

03:10:28.000 You remember, the Pentagon has not passed an audit.

03:10:31.000 They're on their seventh or eighth one that they haven't passed.

03:10:35.000 We've got to do better in this.

03:10:36.000 This is not what you all voted for.

03:10:40.000 And you have members, you have family members that are lobbyists, On this stuff, I mean, it is just totally awful.

03:10:51.000 All right, folks, I'm going to be taking your calls for the remainder of the hour until the great Owen Schroyer takes over as host of the War Room from 3 to 6 p.m.

03:10:58.000 Central Time, so make sure you stay tuned for that.

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03:11:12.000 First up is Tim in California.

03:11:13.000 Tim, what is on your mind this afternoon?

03:11:16.000 Hey Chase, you know, I've seen this video for years now, since the days of COVID, where Alex shows a video that says, you can't just go to the ballpark anymore.

03:11:26.000 You can't just do this and that anymore.

03:11:28.000 You can't sit with your friends anymore.

03:11:30.000 But one of the things that was alarming about that, it showed the empty baseball stadiums and the empty football stadiums.

03:11:37.000 And it showed a little drone, and it was spraying disinfectant.

03:11:44.000 To help us all from a cold virus disease.

03:11:48.000 And the moment I saw that, I thought, oh no.

03:11:51.000 Oh no, that's not a good sign, right?

03:11:54.000 That's not a good sign.

03:11:56.000 And I wouldn't say a word.

03:11:57.000 I would never say a word.

03:11:58.000 But recently, just the other night, I saw Senator Tom Cotton, and he talked about these drones.

03:12:05.000 And he talked about how it just could be hobby or whatever, blah, blah, blah.

03:12:09.000 But at the end, he said, or it could be sarin or VX nerve gas kind of thing the next time.

03:12:18.000 Kind of like, do you want to keep rolling the dice?

03:12:21.000 And here's my thought.

03:12:23.000 If you've got the Chinese, which have controls of our ports... 1.00

03:12:30.000 They've got controls of all the containers that come in and out of the ports.

03:12:33.000 And our own government will admit that 152,000, that's 152,000, 152,000 Chinese individuals, not families, not husbands, wives, just dudes, right? 0.61

03:12:46.000 And you look at when they line up, they look like they're part of a NASA adventure or whatever.

03:12:50.000 They're all in formation.

03:12:51.000 They all have the same kind of outfit.

03:12:53.000 They stand in formation.

03:12:54.000 They got their little drag-around luggage.

03:12:56.000 And I'm just thinking, hey, wait a minute now.

03:12:58.000 They flew a Chinese spy balloon from sea to a shining sea, okay? 0.54

03:13:06.000 And what happened?

03:13:08.000 Nothing!

03:13:09.000 That's what happened.

03:13:10.000 Nothing!

03:13:11.000 So what would make them not feel like it would be okay to give it a few more tries?

03:13:16.000 Tell me what we can get away with.

03:13:18.000 Absolutely.

03:13:19.000 Of course, the difference is we spent $400,000 to shoot down each one of those balloons that they sent over, but they're not shooting down any of these drones, which implies to me that this is our own government.

03:13:28.000 No, but look, Chase, the fentanyl alone, the fentanyl alone is 75,000 fighting age men in America dead every year for year after year after year.

03:13:40.000 And I'm telling you, it took 10 years to kill 50,000 people in Vietnam.

03:13:45.000 I'm telling you, We've got something happening where they're just taking over our country from China, and the people are standing down, and I believe it's because Joe's like a Manchurian candidate, and they said, look, we've given your family all these millions of dollars, 1.00

03:14:01.000 and we're not happy with the performance you gave, and so now, just like when we flew the balloon over and you couldn't do nothing, now we're gonna do whatever we want with these, and you're not gonna do nothing either, and he's just gonna go, yes, I agree, yes, sir, because otherwise, How is it plausible you're going to tell me you don't know, we don't know?

03:14:21.000 You know.

03:14:22.000 You know.

03:14:23.000 And if it was us, you would have by now been embarrassed enough to say so.

03:14:27.000 And the reason you don't do nothing now is the same reason you didn't do anything with the balloon flying from sea to shining sea.

03:14:34.000 Just an opinion I have.

03:14:36.000 Tim, strong call.

03:14:38.000 Thank you so much for sharing that.

03:14:39.000 I appreciate it.

03:14:39.000 Cody in Canada.

03:14:40.000 Cody, what's on your mind with these implications or reports that Justin Trudeau could resign imminently?

03:14:49.000 Well, thank you, Chase, for taking my call.

03:14:52.000 Yeah, like Justin Trudeau, man, I can't believe it.

03:14:54.000 We're going to celebrate God.

03:14:57.000 It's probably going to be any day now.

03:14:59.000 I've never met anybody who liked him.

03:15:01.000 Have you ever met anybody who really liked him?

03:15:03.000 No, and I'm in Canada.

03:15:05.000 Yeah.

03:15:07.000 Are there Trudeau bumper stickers all over the place?

03:15:11.000 Heck no, there's not.

03:15:13.000 I don't see one ever.

03:15:14.000 He's just a loser.

03:15:16.000 He's a selfish World Economic Forum puppet.

03:15:19.000 He works for the World Economic Forum.

03:15:20.000 And Christy Freeland just stepped down yesterday. 1.00

03:15:23.000 And she's a direct puppet from the World Economic Forum, too.

03:15:26.000 We have penetrates into cabinets.

03:15:29.000 Oh, they already did.

03:15:30.000 And so, Kendall, like you said, Infowars, you guys are right.

03:15:34.000 Like, Canada's about four or five years ahead of the states, and so we're kind of like Europe.

03:15:38.000 We're very similar in our economic everything, you know?

03:15:43.000 Well, would you support the annexation of Canada into the United States?

03:15:46.000 Should we march into Toronto and liberate you?

03:15:50.000 I would agree.

03:15:52.000 I would actually support that.

03:15:54.000 Wow.

03:15:54.000 Would we be met with thunderous applause?

03:15:59.000 Well, in Toronto, there's a lot more immigrants, like, you know, like the more globalist control in Toronto, so... 1.00

03:16:04.000 Yeah, well, if there's a lot of immigrants in Toronto, then they shouldn't mind a foreign force coming in. 0.99

03:16:08.000 We already allowed it.

03:16:08.000 Cody, thank you so much for your call.

03:16:10.000 I appreciate it.

03:16:10.000 Scott in Indiana.

03:16:11.000 Scott, what's on your mind?

03:16:13.000 Yeah, great show.

03:16:16.000 Always enjoy seeing everything and great products.

03:16:20.000 Thank you.

03:16:22.000 My point is, what can we do to influence...

03:16:27.000 Our Congressman, just like, you know, the defense builds up, now it's made back to the Senate, back to the Congress.

03:16:36.000 Well, like in the case of the Secretary of Defense nomination, the War Room Posse on O'Bannon's show called in, and they have 50,000 to 60,000 phone calls, emails come in, and they...

03:16:52.000 They turned the tide on that nomination.

03:16:55.000 When we made our noise known, it came out and it's made a difference.

03:17:02.000 And I don't know why all InfoWars type shows, Suviac, O'Bannon, you guys at least get some common line going sometimes where everybody can call in their congressman because, believe me, they don't like having an earful just like the gentleman just called just before with that venom and a little bit of, like, grit.

03:17:24.000 You know, I'm upset about this.

03:17:25.000 I want you to do something about it.

03:17:26.000 Yeah, they don't like an aware and irate constituency.

03:17:31.000 Yeah, when they hear that day after day, like, I know that we postpone Ukraine getting money for almost six months until Israel had to do a false flag to get another whole war thing started so they could actually fund it. 0.67

03:17:48.000 They did not fund anything for those six months leading up until the Israeli war started up.

03:17:54.000 It is effective to call your congressman.

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03:24:14.000 Welcome back to The Alex Jones Show.

03:24:16.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host for the next 27 minutes or so before the great Owen Schroer takes over hosting The War Room with groundbreaking news from 3 p.m.

03:24:25.000 to 6 p.m.

03:24:26.000 His shows have been on fire lately.

03:24:28.000 I am very excited myself to watch his analysis.

03:24:31.000 I'm very curious to hear what he has to say about all these critical developments that have been unfolding right before our eyes ahead of this historic inauguration.

03:24:39.000 Jenny and Marilyn, I want to go to you.

03:24:41.000 Jenny, what is on your mind?

03:24:42.000 Can you hear me?

03:24:44.000 I can hear you.

03:24:44.000 How are you?

03:24:45.000 Hey, Chase.

03:24:46.000 Good.

03:24:46.000 How are you?

03:24:47.000 Good.

03:24:47.000 Thanks for calling.

03:24:48.000 Good.

03:24:49.000 Happy holidays, everyone.

03:24:51.000 Merry Christmas.

03:24:52.000 Thank you.

03:24:53.000 Merry fucking Christmas.

03:24:54.000 Merry Christmas.

03:24:58.000 So much has been going on.

03:25:00.000 I don't know where to begin, but...

03:25:02.000 Do you want to just mention that I have these three supplements?

03:25:06.000 I can't remember the names, Optimal Human, Super Green, and then an electrolyte.

03:25:10.000 Yeah, Hydroforce, that's great.

03:25:12.000 Yes, in one glass.

03:25:14.000 And it tastes amazing.

03:25:16.000 It's like an elixir from a different dimension.

03:25:20.000 Anyway, I love it.

03:25:22.000 Yeah, that stuff will light you up like a Christmas tree.

03:25:25.000 Yeah.

03:25:26.000 Well, great.

03:25:27.000 Well, thank you for your call.

03:25:28.000 I appreciate the plug and your support and everything.

03:25:30.000 Let's go to Bart in Missouri.

03:25:31.000 Bart, what's on your mind?

03:25:34.000 Brad, Missouri.

03:25:36.000 Excuse me.

03:25:36.000 Sorry about that.

03:25:37.000 I just read what they put on the board, man.

03:25:39.000 I'm like Joe Biden with a teleprompter over here right now.

03:25:42.000 That's so fun.

03:25:43.000 Anyways, I called because last night we had drones flying above our air.

03:25:48.000 I live in Kansas City in a suburb north of it, like north of the river.

03:25:51.000 And there's like probably a Wow.

03:26:06.000 Wow.

03:26:08.000 There was a plane flying way higher up and they were spraying crap all over.

03:26:12.000 So my neighbor, my buddy Bruce, he's listening to the show right now.

03:26:16.000 But anyways, he got night vision, night vision pictures of this plane spraying over the top of our area.

03:26:25.000 So what do you think it's spraying?

03:26:27.000 Say what?

03:26:28.000 What do you think they're spraying?

03:26:30.000 Probably crap to make a stick for the new pandemic.

03:26:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:26:33.000 Have you seen all those crazy reports that they're planning to launch a new pandemic on January 21st?

03:26:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:26:39.000 I've been watching you guys every day.

03:26:41.000 Big fan of yours, Chase.

03:26:42.000 I watch Sunday Night Live.

03:26:43.000 I've been watching that.

03:26:44.000 I watch every day.

03:26:45.000 I mean, you guys are my main source of news.

03:26:48.000 Well, thank you for your support.

03:26:50.000 It means a lot to us.

03:26:51.000 Every listener is super precious, and it's because of you guys that we've been on air as long as we have.

03:26:55.000 Now we're going to win against this assault by the new world order.

03:27:00.000 Yeah, and I've been drinking the Hydro Force.

03:27:02.000 Yeah, delicious.

03:27:03.000 I've been drinking that a glass a day.

03:27:05.000 But one thing I found out, I like the flavor, but I wanted to spice it up a little bit.

03:27:10.000 So I just started pouring lemons, like squeezing lemons in there, making a big jar of lemonade.

03:27:13.000 Yeah, lemon's really good with the Optimal Human, too. 0.76

03:27:17.000 That's what Harrison Smith does.

03:27:18.000 Yeah, I wanted to get some of that.

03:27:20.000 But yeah.

03:27:21.000 Well, that's all I have to say.

03:27:23.000 Thank you, Brad.

03:27:24.000 I appreciate your call, and thank you for letting us know about these drones.

03:27:27.000 There have been reports, too, all over the country that these drones aren't just surveilling or searching for something or creating a defensive array.

03:27:35.000 There have been reports that they've been spraying.

03:27:37.000 And regardless of whether you believe in chemtrails or not, it's very obvious when you see footage of a drone.

03:27:42.000 It's not condensation flying off a wing of a drone.

03:27:45.000 It's spraying stuff.

03:27:48.000 And we just have to get this administration in.

03:27:50.000 We have to get the Kash Patels in. 0.99

03:27:51.000 We have to get the Pete Hegseth in.

03:27:52.000 We have to get the Department of Government Efficiency Operational.

03:27:56.000 With Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk.

03:27:59.000 And you know that they're terrified of DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, because Gavin Newsom has come out criticizing it, saying that, oh, it's just a public relations or a marketing operation.

03:28:09.000 There's no real power with DOGE. This is clip number 22 of Gavin Newsom making some comments about the Department of Government Efficiency.

03:28:16.000 Let's watch this and unpack it.

03:28:18.000 Clip number 22, please.

03:28:24.000 Thanks.

03:28:25.000 Through the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk has been working very hard with various people, including Vivek.

03:28:33.000 We're going to eliminate hundreds of billions of dollars of waste and fraud.

03:28:38.000 And I can only tell you, I'll give you a little early report, they're finding things that you wouldn't even believe.

03:28:43.000 So we're looking to save maybe two trillion dollars.

03:28:47.000 And it'll have no impact.

03:28:49.000 Actually, it'll make life better, but it'll have no impact on people.

03:28:52.000 It's not like we will never cut Social Security, things like that.

03:28:56.000 It's just waste, fraud, and abuse.

03:28:58.000 We've been working, I don't know, before Doge was Doge.

03:29:01.000 I don't know what, this is just like a promo project.

03:29:04.000 We've been doing civil service reform in this state.

03:29:06.000 We've been consolidating job classifications.

03:29:09.000 We've been updating job descriptions in the state.

03:29:10.000 95% of all new jobs last year in California were government.

03:29:13.000 And we waived those requirements.

03:29:15.000 And in fact, I think it was in August, earlier August, we came up with your shop.

03:29:21.000 We're gonna double that next year.

03:29:24.000 In fact, by 32,000, it'll be 62,000 positions.

03:29:29.000 We will have eliminated those barriers in that requirement.

03:29:32.000 So California has been a leader in that space.

03:29:35.000 He just looks like he's been designed by a focus group, a leftist focus group in California.

03:29:40.000 Over 95% of all new jobs in California last year were government jobs, and he's bragging about California efficiency.

03:29:47.000 It's deficient in every meaningful possible way.

03:29:49.000 I lived there.

03:29:51.000 The weather was beautiful.

03:29:52.000 Everything else was terrible.

03:29:54.000 It's like going to hell, but there's a beach.

03:29:58.000 You're still in hell.

03:29:59.000 You're not really enjoying the beach if you're damned and separated from God for all of eternity, are you? 0.52

03:30:05.000 And it feels like a spiritual vacuum when you go there and you mingle and you get to know some of the locals and all the new age stuff that's going on and the occult behavior.

03:30:16.000 It's almost like a spiritual black hole in California.

03:30:20.000 There's a lot of great people there.

03:30:21.000 A lot of very nice people.

03:30:22.000 Love my in-laws.

03:30:23.000 Some of the best people I've ever met.

03:30:26.000 I'm not trying to knock it.

03:30:27.000 Tom Sauer was our guest last hour.

03:30:29.000 He lives in Newport.

03:30:30.000 Just 30 minutes from where I lived.

03:30:32.000 But I'm telling you, there is a force field around California attempting to separate the population from God and hope.

03:30:44.000 And the only thing allowed through that force field are 20 million undocumented immigrants.

03:30:51.000 So, Gavin Newsom with his focus group haircut And his focus group comments and his focus group personality can say all he wants all day long about how efficient and wonderful and beautiful and powerful California is.

03:31:07.000 But he's not just wrong.

03:31:09.000 He's lying.

03:31:12.000 State income tax goes up to 13% in California on top of the federal income tax you pay, averaging 25%, if not more, all the way up to 40%.

03:31:20.000 So if you live in California and you make substantial money, Even if you don't, but let's just say you make a couple hundred thousand dollars a year.

03:31:30.000 Between property tax, sales tax, state income tax, social security, federal income tax, like three out of every five days that you work, you're working for the government.

03:31:43.000 That's not freedom.

03:31:47.000 That's tyranny.

03:31:48.000 It's slavery. 0.97

03:31:51.000 I think that any tax over 50%, at least, really any tax at all, any income tax at all, any non-voluntary tax, is a violation of the 13th Amendment.

03:32:00.000 It's slavery. 0.97

03:32:01.000 But if more than half of your life, if the product or the value of more than half of your life, your time, the stuff life's made of, goes to the government, are you a free person?

03:32:18.000 Oh, but there's a really nice beach and it's so sunny outside.

03:32:20.000 Yeah, but you can't go to the beach if there's a fake pandemic that we funded in a lab in China that they leaked intentionally in order to undermine an administration getting elected that could do something about the injustice in California.

03:32:34.000 Between the cartels and the political class and the Pelosi's and the Newsom's and the Schiff's.

03:32:43.000 It's like the capital of super villainy there.

03:32:49.000 Every time I see him, I'm struck with a sense of post-traumatic stress disorder because I escaped.

03:32:59.000 And I remember what it was like to know that being the first one at the office and the last one to leave when I lived there was only necessary because the state of California deemed me a subject Of their corruption.

03:33:21.000 You hand the check over to the enemy every year.

03:33:26.000 But the weather's nice.

03:33:28.000 Go to Sonny in Ohio.

03:33:29.000 Sonny, what's on your mind?

03:33:34.000 My name is Sonny Thomas.

03:33:36.000 I run Resolution Radio at resolutionrdo.com.

03:33:39.000 And I'm always supporting Alex in every way I can.

03:33:42.000 And I always encourage people, no matter how small you think you are, do your own podcast.

03:33:47.000 Because of the fact that your opinion counts just as much as anyone else.

03:33:53.000 said about as far as independent broadcasters, I don't care if it's Alex Jones or Andrew Anglin.

03:33:59.000 If any one of them get taken off, nobody's safe.

03:34:02.000 So the thing is, like Jim Morrison said, five to one, you know, they may have the guns, but we got the numbers.

03:34:08.000 So make sure you start your own podcast, do whatever you need to do to get your voice out there, because eventually...

03:34:16.000 Something you say will take off.

03:34:17.000 Even if you don't run with something right away, some young buck may come along and take your idea and actually do something with it, and it comes to fruition.

03:34:26.000 So I don't care if it's going to your local city councils or whatever the case may be, because a lot of times those are taped and put on cable.

03:34:33.000 And other people watch those.

03:34:35.000 If you're a senior citizen, talk about issues that concern you, and then some young guy may come along and take that baton and run with it.

03:34:43.000 But Some commentary you were saying yesterday You were talking about, you know, there's an individual you said to actually put his hands on one of the missing bombs.

03:34:55.000 Yes.

03:34:55.000 Apparently that were missing from the Ukraine.

03:34:57.000 I mean, when you were talking about them, let's just say the drones were possibly looking for this thing, right?

03:35:03.000 It's literally right out of the film, some of all fears with Morgan Freeman, because the fact that they literally hit a small nuke in a vending machine in a stadium.

03:35:14.000 So, why wouldn't they put something in D.C. somewhere possibly on January 20th?

03:35:20.000 I mean, think about that.

03:35:21.000 I mean, that's where the whole TV show was at The Last Survivor with Kiefer Sutherland where he's, you know, he's got the lotteries and he gets out and then the whole...

03:35:32.000 Yeah, designated survivor.

03:35:34.000 Yeah, designated survivor, yeah.

03:35:35.000 So, I mean, that scenario could very well happen.

03:35:39.000 And so, I just hope...

03:35:42.000 It doesn't happen, but I hope that there is something.

03:35:46.000 Well, I tell you what, if a dirty bomb goes off or a nuke goes off in the next month in the United States, I'm confident that it was a setup, just like the pipe bomber on January 6th that they haven't identified.

03:35:59.000 The reason they haven't identified him is because it was a Fed.

03:36:01.000 If something like this happens, it's not because some terrorist was sophisticated enough to smuggle something dangerous into the country.

03:36:07.000 It's because our government allowed it to happen either by opening the borders and sponsoring this person coming in with this weapon or by doing it themselves and putting the isotopes into it to blame it on Russia and escalate World War III. So if something happens in the next 30 days in the United States, it's a false flag operation.

03:36:25.000 Don't buy it.

03:36:26.000 What do you think?

03:36:28.000 You know, when the thing goes off, I might assume it was Russia, even though the analyst said there's no way it could have been him because it's not the guy's character.

03:36:37.000 But they all might want to assume it was Russia.

03:36:40.000 So that DOG situation like you were talking about, I can see where all those chips can be laid out and try to be played because they've created this scenario.

03:36:50.000 Absolutely.

03:36:51.000 Sonny, thank you so much for your call.

03:36:52.000 I really appreciate it.

03:36:53.000 Let's go to Mark in California.

03:36:55.000 Mark, what's on your mind?

03:36:57.000 Hey, thank you for taking my call.

03:36:59.000 I really appreciate the show.

03:37:01.000 You're welcome.

03:37:01.000 Thank you.

03:37:02.000 So I wanted to bring up my point about the Federal Reserve and what Jerome Powell said last Wednesday and why it just points out that he should be terminated the first month of President Trump's new election, his run in office.

03:37:21.000 Sure.

03:37:22.000 So the point is, is Last Wednesday, he said our $36 trillion deficit is unsustainable.

03:37:31.000 Okay, you hire a financial planner and you say, hey, you're a financial planner.

03:37:36.000 You tell me what my future is going to be from 10 years from now.

03:37:40.000 They can pretty much tell you where you're going to be 10 years from now.

03:37:44.000 This guy should have been bringing up this information 10 or 15 years from now.

03:37:48.000 This is like my car going off a cliff or going off a bridge, and I'm calling up Jerome Powell saying my car just went into the ocean, and then he answers the phone when I'm 200 feet down and says, oh, I'm sorry, there's no hope for you.

03:38:05.000 Or this is like the guy that watches somebody set their house on fire, and then when the house is fully engulfed, he decides to call the fire department and says, hey, there's a house on fire.

03:38:17.000 I'm wondering what you're thinking about this.

03:38:19.000 I think you're absolutely right.

03:38:21.000 I actually have an assignment for everybody in the audience who has access to a computer.

03:38:26.000 I ask that everyone in the audience go to chatgpt.com.

03:38:30.000 There's a free version.

03:38:31.000 You won't have to log in.

03:38:34.000 If you don't want to use chatgpt, try Grok.

03:38:35.000 I haven't done this on Grok, but I've done it on chatgpt.

03:38:38.000 And ask chatgpt what would be the effects or the implications of Of the United States government paying off all of its debt at once and not taking on any new debt.

03:38:55.000 And you will see a response so shocking and terrifying That it should wake you up or anyone you know up as to the problem with our monetary system.

03:39:08.000 So ask ChatGPT.

03:39:09.000 Go to ChatGPT.com.

03:39:10.000 Ask it.

03:39:11.000 What would happen if the United States government paid off all of its debt at once and stopped taking new debt, balanced the budget?

03:39:18.000 You know, something that we think sounds very reasonable.

03:39:20.000 Take a screenshot of that information.

03:39:23.000 Response from ChatGPT.

03:39:25.000 Go to my ex-profile at realchasegeyser.

03:39:29.000 This show is the pinned tweet.

03:39:31.000 And just, I want you to post the screenshot of what ChatGPT says to you as a reply to my sharing of this broadcast on my ex-account.

03:39:39.000 Because I want to see what...

03:39:40.000 The problem is, we have a fractional reserve banking system based off of a fiat currency not backed by anything real.

03:39:49.000 In a fractional reserve banking system based on fiat is inherently a Ponzi scheme.

03:39:55.000 And the only way that it can continue to work is if the scheme gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

03:40:00.000 If the debt gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

03:40:02.000 If we paid off all of the debt, the entire world economy would collapse because our monetary system is dependent on debt.

03:40:14.000 And I'm not saying that we shouldn't pay off all the debt.

03:40:16.000 I'm saying that we should have honest money, because if the money was honest, actually backed by real value, precious metals, then we would be able to pay off all the debt without any harm.

03:40:27.000 It would actually be beneficial, just like your personal finances.

03:40:29.000 You pay off your debt, that's great for you.

03:40:31.000 But since our whole entire global reserve currency economy is a lie, Then paying off the debt exposes the lie, the scheme is up and it collapses.

03:40:45.000 And since the scheme itself is the foundation of the global economy because of our global reserve status, that means total global economic collapse.

03:40:56.000 And I know it's inevitably going to happen no matter what, but if we don't find a way to safely dismantle and disassemble This weapon of mass destruction right before us.

03:41:08.000 It's like looking at the blue wire and the red wire.

03:41:10.000 If we don't find a way to very carefully unravel this bomb right in front of our faces and put in a new monetary system in a predictable and delicate way, the bomb's going to go off.

03:41:29.000 So you pay off all the debt?

03:41:30.000 That's cutting the wrong wire explosion.

03:41:32.000 You don't pay off any of the debt?

03:41:34.000 It's cutting the other wrong wire, explosion.

03:41:37.000 The only difference is, is it going to explode now or is it going to explode later?

03:41:42.000 So we have to come up with a new monetary system.

03:41:44.000 And people talk a lot of crap about John Maynard Keynes, the economist that advocated for our banking system and our reserve status after World War II. And there are many reasons to criticize that economist.

03:41:57.000 Ron Paul for years has been talking about the difference between Keynesian economics and Austrian economics.

03:42:02.000 I don't want to get into an academic course about it.

03:42:04.000 But what people often overlook about John Maynard Keynes is that when he advocated for the dollar as the global reserve currency, it was under the assumption that the dollar would be backed by gold.

03:42:19.000 Was it Bretton Woods in the 50s?

03:42:20.000 Maybe it was late 40s, early 50s when they did this.

03:42:23.000 After World War II, they negotiated this.

03:42:24.000 It wasn't until 79 that we were off the gold standard.

03:42:27.000 Some argue under FDR we technically were since he seized everybody's gold.

03:42:31.000 But had he known that we would have officially gone off of the gold standard in the 70s, I don't think he ever would have advocated for this fractional reserve banking system and this global reserve status because he would have understood that it would inevitably implode.

03:42:45.000 All right, let's go to another call.

03:42:46.000 Let's go to Kevin in New York.

03:42:49.000 Kevin, what's on your mind, sir?

03:42:52.000 Hey, Chase.

03:42:52.000 First off, I want to say Merry Christmas.

03:42:54.000 Merry Christmas.

03:42:55.000 And thank you to you and all your staff.

03:42:57.000 I'd like to say there's a lot of little things I think all of us can do, especially people that live by main highways, specifically all throughout New York State and the rest of the country.

03:43:06.000 We should figure out a way that we can all organize with a common theme, like maybe I'm Alex Jones or just something very simple and just master it.

03:43:14.000 Everywhere.

03:43:16.000 And something I would love to see you guys do is possibly put up a section where you have a community board, where our biggest issue is that sometimes people have great ideas, but they can't connect to the audience that you built and the money that you spent building this little army together.

03:43:32.000 So it would be, I think, a fantastic idea if somehow you guys could put something up.

03:43:37.000 For example, just going on leftist websites and trolling them and playing their own game.

03:43:45.000 Sure.

03:43:45.000 Absolutely.

03:43:46.000 Anything you can do.

03:43:46.000 Every listener is precious.

03:43:48.000 And just like the other caller said, starting a podcast is great.

03:43:51.000 Even if you only have 25 regular listeners, that's 25 times the influence that you have compared to if you didn't do it.

03:44:01.000 Because everybody has influence over themselves.

03:44:03.000 Before I had a voice, before I started podcasting, my opinion was only reflected in my vote.

03:44:09.000 If you have a podcast and 25 followers, your opinion is now reflected in 25 votes.

03:44:15.000 It doesn't have to be millions of viewers.

03:44:17.000 It doesn't have to be thousands of viewers.

03:44:19.000 Every listener is precious.

03:44:21.000 If you can change the heart of one person, if you can wake one person up, that is enough to justify the effort because we're talking about the future of humanity, folks.

03:44:30.000 And that's why I'm so proud to work at Infowars for Alex Jones.

03:44:35.000 Even if I disagreed with him, which I don't, but even if I disagreed with him about virtually everything, I would still be proud to work here because this place has become a symbol of freedom of speech.

03:44:46.000 And the deep state satanic apparatus that has tried at every level to shut this organization down, this operation down, is so evil and corrupt and, frankly, cancerous.

03:45:11.000 That it must be combated at all costs.

03:45:13.000 If you don't want to start a podcast, if you don't want to do the research and figure out what cameras to get, what soundboard to get, how to broadcast on all the platforms, then go to the alwaysjonesstore.com and support us.

03:45:23.000 Because we are fighting in the new world order with what we say, with the audience that we reach, with the lawsuits that we file.

03:45:32.000 I mean, this place is financially fighting the new world order, the time and commitment of this crew and these hosts.

03:45:40.000 are dedicated to fighting the new world order and the broadcast that reaches millions upon millions of people worldwide is waking up an entire generation of human beings on this planet created by God to the evil and insidious and corrupt and audacious Forces

03:46:11.000 that seek to manifest themselves as the antithesis of God himself.

03:46:18.000 Because you understand that God's main expression was creation.

03:46:28.000 And these organizations, institutions, philosophies, movements...

03:46:36.000 That are antithetical to creation itself are inherently satanic and adversarial.

03:46:42.000 That which destroys creation, that which advocates against humanity, is that which defies God most.

03:46:52.000 It's the number one form of blasphemy.

03:46:55.000 It's the number one form of heresy.

03:46:59.000 To defy God because he created all that which exists.

03:47:05.000 Folks are coming up on our break in about 90 seconds.

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03:48:37.000 Well, the winner, Chris DiLaro, is here in studio from New Jersey, former F-16 Air Force fighter pilot and flew the big 777s.

03:48:44.000 What an amazing aircraft.

03:48:46.000 Chris, I gotta say, man, we love you.

03:48:47.000 Thanks for the support.

03:48:49.000 I love you, Alex.

03:48:50.000 I love Bigley, Nate, Colin.

03:48:52.000 Thanks, Chris.

03:48:52.000 This is one of the pinnacles in my life, and there have been a few good ones, but this is right up there, just being in this studio.

03:48:58.000 I never imagined I'd be.

03:48:59.000 Well, we appreciate you, brother.

03:49:00.000 You're the reason we're here.

03:49:01.000 It's so cool how cool the listeners are.

03:49:03.000 It is.

03:49:04.000 Yes.

03:49:04.000 Oh, thank you.

03:49:05.000 The listeners are amazing.

03:49:06.000 Like, everyone that goes to the Alex Jones store, obviously you're in it to win this truck, but this experience of coming on the show, how is this, Chris?

03:49:12.000 I mean, is this not, this is like a, it's a dream, I would feel like, for the winner, right?

03:49:16.000 Fortunately, I slept pretty good last night, but it's been very stressful because he said, Colin said, you're going on the show, and I was like, I'm a little camera shy, but here I am.

03:49:27.000 And I've done well, old Vader.

03:49:30.000 I said, I'll do whatever I need to do to help Alex and Big Lee.

03:49:33.000 Well, I'm glad I got to meet you.

03:49:34.000 We're going to eat some barbecue from Terry Black's here in a minute.

03:49:36.000 I'm starting to mouthwater when you said that.

03:49:37.000 Oh, I'm starving.

03:49:38.000 Now, real quick, this is all done by a computer, by a professional company.

03:49:42.000 I was talking to you guys before.

03:49:44.000 Sometimes it's in the middle of it.

03:49:45.000 Sometimes it's at the end.

03:49:46.000 Sometimes it's at the start.

03:49:48.000 Have you seen where somebody who entered on the first day won?

03:49:51.000 Honestly, we've done probably 30 of these giveaways and have never seen someone win on the very first day.

03:49:56.000 But we have these multipliers that go into place maybe at the first week and the last week of the giveaway, right?

03:50:02.000 And during these multipliers, if you spend $10, you get 100 entries.

03:50:05.000 If you spend $100, you get 1,000 entries, right?

03:50:08.000 It's a 10x multiplier for when you enter during that time period.

03:50:10.000 You actually enter during the 10x time period, right?

03:50:13.000 And at the end of the giveaway, we run the 10x time period as well.

03:50:16.000 So it was one of the best times to enter to win.

03:50:19.000 And, I mean, you got, you know, more entries for how much you spent.

03:50:22.000 With the new contest, where are we right now?

03:50:23.000 It's a brand new Ford F-250 Super Duty trimmer.

03:50:27.000 It's sick.

03:50:27.000 It's all black, jacked up.

03:50:29.000 It's Alex Jones verified for sure.

03:50:31.000 He picked the wheels.

03:50:32.000 He picked the tires.

03:50:33.000 It looks good.

03:50:34.000 I don't know.

03:50:34.000 Yeah, we're showing it right here.

03:50:35.000 It also comes with $10,000 in cash as well.

03:50:38.000 Chris, do you have that on you?

03:50:39.000 Yeah, this is not a hoax, people.

03:50:41.000 He is the winner of all the thousands of folks that came to thealexjonesstore.com and got products to be entered to win or just put your email in for free and you're entered to win.

03:50:50.000 He bought two t-shirts, ladies and gentlemen, and he won this incredible super truck.

03:50:54.000 Somebody can be like Chris.

03:50:55.000 They can go to thealexjonesstore.com.

03:50:57.000 They can order the great CMOS, order any of the great supplements, t-shirts, hats, whatever, and you're entered to win a badass, brand new F-250 trimmer, fully loaded pickup truck, and you get $10,000 in cash, and we fly you down here.

03:51:09.000 You get to meet Alex.

03:51:10.000 You get to be on the show.

03:51:11.000 If you just enter your email, you're still entered to win.

03:51:13.000 Go to thealexjonesstore.com.

03:51:15.000 Enter your email.

03:51:16.000 Join the VIP club.

03:51:17.000 I promise you next week what you'll get for being in the VIP club.

03:51:21.000 You'll be very excited.

03:51:22.000 I knew folks would love the last truck, and I know you'll love this truck as well.

03:51:27.000 Another incredible pickup truck.

03:51:30.000 Super off-road package, this time from Ford.

03:51:32.000 It's a beautiful truck.

03:51:34.000 Super high ratings and you get $10,000 in cash on top of it for the lucky winner.

03:51:39.000 A 2024 Ford F-250 Super Duty Diesel Tremor Edition, 6.7 liter high output power stroke diesel engine with 500 horsepower and 1,200 lb-ft per torque, 2-inch ready lift kit, 37-inch Toyo off-road tires, 20-inch black Rhino wheels, 12-inch touchscreen with 360-degree cameras to see all around the truck.

03:52:04.000 Well, it's a kick-ass truck.

03:52:05.000 I'm sorry to see it go, but it's going to a great guy, Chris.

03:52:08.000 Chris, love you, brother.

03:52:09.000 Love you, man.

03:52:10.000 Thank you.

03:52:10.000 Somebody's about to get this sweetheart right here.

03:52:13.000 And listen, they said I could drive it while I was down here for the last month and a half.

03:52:16.000 Only drove it once.

03:52:17.000 Things are too nice.

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