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00:02:02.000 ♪♪ Um, hello everybody.

00:02:12.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show Live Edition.

00:02:16.000 It is today, Friday, August 9th, 2024.

00:02:21.000 I'm Laura Logan and I'm filling in for Alex.

00:02:23.000 Not quite sure how he got me to do this, but here I am.

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00:02:40.000 Okay, we're going to start today's show with a story that hit social media and it's been reported in the Wall Street Journal and all over the media today.

00:02:50.000 We confirmed the details with the Butler Police Department because this video that is out is quite Significant and we're going to play it here for you in a moment.

00:03:01.000 Do we have that video ready to roll?

00:03:02.000 If we do, we'll show you what we're talking about and then we're going to bring in a great guest who is a sniper instructor for Green Berets at their training school.

00:03:14.000 He spent many years in special operations and then he went into the civilian world where he's been working with law enforcement and training people in security in the civilian world. So he's really got a unique

00:03:26.000 perspective, Jack Neville's, because he's able to talk to both sides of how this works.

00:03:32.000 And we're looking forward to hearing his take on this video. So if we have the video ready now,

00:03:39.000 we could play that.

00:03:41.000 Next building over right after the gap. He's got glasses long hair.

00:03:47.000 This building, he was on top of this building, the left one.

00:03:51.000 I jumped up.

00:03:52.000 The first one, that one, laying down.

00:04:01.000 There's a gap in between you and there.

00:04:04.000 Yo Tess, you got me up once, get me up again.

00:04:06.000 Alright, good.

00:04:07.000 I need one more.

00:04:08.000 Ready?

00:04:09.000 Let's go.

00:04:10.000 One, two, three.

00:04:11.000 Okay, we have a short break, one minute break coming up and we'll bring you more of that

00:04:18.000 video and our conversation with Jack Nevels right afterwards.

00:04:21.000 Thanks for watching!

00:04:24.000 Don't pop your head, he's right there!

00:04:29.000 This close bro, do we turn around or me?

00:04:32.000 He's straight up.

00:04:33.000 I need an ambulance and a pack of, and a, a gun.

00:04:41.000 Yo, you about to hop up, he's laying down, he's going north, next building over.

00:04:45.000 Straight curve.

00:04:47.000 Right after the gap, he's got glasses, long hair.

00:04:50.000 This building, he was on top of this building, the left one.

00:04:54.000 I jumped up.

00:04:55.000 This is a very serious, very serious.

00:05:01.000 That one, laying down.

00:05:03.000 There's a gap in between you and there.

00:05:07.000 Yo Tess, you got me up once, get me up again.

00:05:09.000 Ready?

00:05:10.000 Yep.

00:05:11.000 Alright, ready?

00:05:12.000 Let's go.

00:05:13.000 One, two, three.

00:05:16.000 Yeah.

00:05:17.000 All right here.

00:05:22.000 They're staying there.

00:05:24.000 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Y Let's check on our guys, make sure we're all squared away.

00:05:50.000 General's pumping.

00:05:51.000 I heard some shots.

00:05:52.000 I heard some snaps close by us when we were peeling out of there, so just make sure nobody's f***ing whacked.

00:05:58.000 We are committed.

00:05:59.000 We are armed with the body of the suspect.

00:06:03.000 First, where we got shot at.

00:06:05.000 There's a real close snap, dude.

00:06:06.000 Bro, before you **** him up here, I popped my head up there like an idiot by myself, dude.

00:06:10.000 He turned around, I **** dropped, and I saw his ****.

00:06:13.000 That's why they got somebody up there.

00:06:14.000 I thought somebody was up there.

00:06:15.000 I put my head up here.

00:06:16.000 If he was up there, I would have ****ed him up.

00:06:17.000 I don't want to speculate.

00:06:18.000 Is he a shooter?

00:06:18.000 No, no, no, no.

00:06:19.000 Did he have a weapon?

00:06:20.000 Is he?

00:06:20.000 That was a report.

00:06:21.000 That was a report.

00:06:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:24.000 He got up here.

00:06:25.000 He wasn't moving.

00:06:26.000 I'm a lawful man.

00:06:26.000 No!

00:06:27.000 I'm a lawful, less lethal.

00:06:30.000 I've got my arms down.

00:06:33.000 I'm gonna go move it.

00:06:36.000 I told them they need to post the guys over here.

00:06:40.000 I told them at the Secret Service.

00:06:43.000 I told them that Tuesday.

00:06:46.000 I told them to post guys over here.

00:06:48.000 What?

00:06:48.000 No, we're inside.

00:06:49.000 What?

00:06:49.000 No, we're inside.

00:06:50.000 Alpha 1, Bravo 1.

00:06:50.000 I told them to post guys over here.

00:06:51.000 I told them to post guys over here.

00:07:03.000 I wasn't even concerned about it because I thought someone was on the roof.

00:07:07.000 you lose a guy walking back there. They're inside in the building. Because

00:07:07.000 They were inside.

00:07:17.000 I thought we were gonna post. So there we have it.

00:07:19.000 This is the video that is causing such waves across the media today.

00:07:24.000 It's quite dramatic.

00:07:25.000 We've confirmed with Butler Police Department that this comes from one of their body cameras.

00:07:31.000 And I want to bring in now Jack Nevels, our guest, who is a specialist in this area, both for the military.

00:07:37.000 Jack, you were an instructor.

00:07:39.000 Greenberry instructor at their training school.

00:07:42.000 You're in the military in special operations for many years and you do this on the law enforcement, civilian side now.

00:07:48.000 When you look at that video, can you give us a sense of what is your immediate reaction?

00:07:54.000 Because I know that with your training you see things that the rest of us don't see.

00:08:01.000 Well, my immediate reaction is, you know, just taking a look at it.

00:08:03.000 Number one, I'd like to say that, you know, the men and women that work in the security industry, whether it's in federal or state or local, are highly professional.

00:08:15.000 And the Secret Service and the other federal snipers that I've worked with are incredibly, incredibly professional and very meticulous about what they do.

00:08:26.000 And You know, when I 1st, look at this, I look at it, you know, from the planning perspective at the start of it, where the advanced teamwork.

00:08:37.000 That would have come in instead of weeks ahead of time and figured all this out.

00:08:41.000 I mean, it's common practice that when you have an area that you can't cover or a building that has a bunch of windows, you put up a large banner so that.

00:08:50.000 It cuts down visibility to where your principal's at.

00:08:53.000 And then when I look at the communications plan that fell through, you know, we have what we call in the military a PACE plan, Primary Alternate Contingency Emergency.

00:09:02.000 These things are always buttoned down because everyone knows that when stuff goes down and communications are bad, That's when things start to fall apart.

00:09:11.000 And so I see that there wasn't good communication between the different agencies and the planning that was supposed to take place the morning before the incident happened, where you kind of do your final.

00:09:24.000 You know, get together and everybody make sure you're on the same sheet of music.

00:09:27.000 Normally, we'd all stand together in a circle when we would make communications check with one another to make sure we can all talk to one another.

00:09:34.000 We're all in the same sheet of music and then we go out and we conduct our business.

00:09:37.000 So I think there was a series of failures that led up to.

00:09:42.000 this point.

00:10:02.000 What he testified, the acting director testified in Congress.

00:10:06.000 And they're showing, they really are standing up for themselves, right?

00:10:10.000 I mean, Butler Police Department is saying, we're not going down with you, Secret Service, okay?

00:10:15.000 Look, here's our guy, you can hear him on his body cam, and he's saying, I told the Secret Service.

00:10:22.000 Now, my immediate reaction to that is, the Secret Service has one job.

00:10:26.000 You laid out some of it, right?

00:10:27.000 They go in weeks in advance.

00:10:29.000 There's a team there the day before.

00:10:31.000 This is their only job, is to secure that site.

00:10:34.000 If you got windows, you put up a banner.

00:10:36.000 There's no banner on those windows.

00:10:37.000 You know, the minimum that is required is that you have communications that work.

00:10:42.000 With everyone who's present on the ground.

00:10:44.000 We all know if you don't have enough personnel, you're relying on local law enforcement.

00:10:48.000 That's standard.

00:10:49.000 But if you can't talk to them, that's useless.

00:10:52.000 So what I see here is a lot of things that have been put in place to create the impression that these are failures.

00:11:02.000 Right, that these things somehow just went wrong, that this is DEI higher and this is that.

00:11:07.000 But there's no way, tell me there's no way on God's earth that these things all just happened by accident.

00:11:14.000 I don't believe it.

00:11:16.000 Yeah, it's hard to get your head around because these failures are so epic and they're so elementary, like the things that fell through were something a third grader could figure out.

00:11:30.000 And again, having Having worked with, you know, Tier 1 level snipers around the globe, you know, training foreigners and training different folks here in the States.

00:11:42.000 All of these men and women are super, super professional and having something fall through like this, it's kind of hard to get your head around.

00:11:53.000 I would agree with you on that.

00:11:55.000 Just from a It's intentional.

00:11:58.000 Is there any way that you... Okay, we don't have evidence to prove that it's intentional, but when you look at that, do you really, in your heart of hearts, with all your experience, believe that happened by accident?

00:12:11.000 It's hard for me to say that there wasn't some intentionality somewhere.

00:12:15.000 Now, where that intentionality lies, I have no idea, because I just can't... Again, I can't get my head around the fact that The this organization that is as good as everybody.

00:12:27.000 They're actually as good as everybody thinks they are.

00:12:29.000 I mean, they they do that level of work.

00:12:33.000 And so the idea that they wouldn't do something- Across the globe.

00:12:35.000 Okay, you got a local police officer saying, I told them to put someone on top of that building.

00:12:41.000 I beep beep told them.

00:12:43.000 Right?

00:12:44.000 I mean, there's no mistaking what he's saying there.

00:12:46.000 It's very, very clear.

00:12:48.000 So why the Secret Service?

00:12:50.000 First of all, they don't need a local police officer to tell them that.

00:12:53.000 Anyone with half a brain can look at that site and know you got to secure the rooftops.

00:12:53.000 Okay?

00:12:58.000 That's it.

00:12:59.000 Right, and it shouldn't be the local PD telling the Secret Service what to do in that situation.

00:13:04.000 It should have been Secret Service saying, this is the plan, this is how we're executing this, they have command and control of this, and the people that augment them are just augmentees, they're not in charge of the operation.

00:13:17.000 So, you know, from the Secret Service level, where that breakdown of chain of command and command and control happened, You know, I don't know, having not been to the actual site, not being privy to all the information in the investigation, but it definitely looks suspect.

00:13:35.000 It definitely looks, um, like an epic failure.

00:13:40.000 That is, it's too epic to, um, to happen accidentally.

00:13:44.000 Like, there's all these coincidences that all lined up that allowed this one shooter to be in that one place at that specific time.

00:13:52.000 Seems, um, Okay, I'm going to throw you a final question, Jack.

00:13:58.000 I'm going to throw you a curveball here, okay?

00:14:00.000 I've been talking to a number of very senior sources, people with a lot of experience in special operations, a couple of snipers, counter snipers, and none of them believe that that kid fired the shot that hit Donald Trump's ear.

00:14:15.000 None of them.

00:14:15.000 I mean, they don't have any evidence, but based on their experience, they say, I don't buy it.

00:14:20.000 There was another shooter.

00:14:22.000 One, possibly two, but you know, there's no evidence of that yet because they're not on site.

00:14:26.000 They're not investigating.

00:14:28.000 What would you say to that?

00:14:29.000 Where do your instincts lie?

00:14:32.000 I would say it's probable.

00:14:34.000 I mean, again, without having a comprehensive investigation, I would think that with an event of this magnitude that we would be having daily briefs from somebody.

00:14:46.000 No briefs from anybody.

00:14:46.000 And we're not.

00:14:47.000 Let the American public know to squash any conspiracy theories that may be out there.

00:14:52.000 Or concerns, right?

00:14:54.000 Just questions.

00:14:56.000 Right now, having said that, you know, taking a 140-yard shot with an AR-15 is a pretty easy shot.

00:15:06.000 We do what we call a point-blank zero.

00:15:07.000 If I zero that weapon at 50 yards or 50 meters, given its trajectory, it's going to come back down and cross over your sight line probably at around 185, 200 yards, meaning that if you just hold the sights, Right at one point, all the way from point blank out to about 200, you're going to get a hit within plus or minus two inches vertically.

00:15:31.000 Obviously, President Trump turning his head or the winds or whatnot, five, five, six rounds are very prone to deflection and wind just because of the lightweight projectile that they're firing.

00:15:42.000 But is it probable that that shot could have been made by him?

00:15:47.000 Yes.

00:15:48.000 Is it also probable that there could have been another shooter?

00:15:52.000 Possibly, without physically going on the ground and looking at where these other shots could come from, from a similar trajectory, a similar angle.

00:16:00.000 I can't speak authoritatively about that.

00:16:01.000 But if you were a betting man, Jack, and you had to put money on it, is your money on the dead kid or somebody else?

00:16:10.000 Oh man, that's a good one.

00:16:12.000 I'm going to get you one way or another.

00:16:14.000 You're going to get me one way or the other.

00:16:16.000 If I was a betting man, I would say it could go either way.

00:16:20.000 How about that?

00:16:22.000 You're definitely a Green Beret.

00:16:23.000 Yeah.

00:16:25.000 Playing it both ways.

00:16:26.000 That's in the DNA.

00:16:28.000 Well, there's both of that.

00:16:31.000 You know all about that.

00:16:33.000 The diplomat, Jack.

00:16:35.000 I'm going to get you in the bar and get a couple of drinks into you, and then I'm going to get the real story.

00:16:40.000 Okay.

00:16:41.000 Well, we'll see about that.

00:16:44.000 Thank you so much for joining us, okay?

00:16:46.000 Good to see you.

00:16:46.000 Thank you, and thanks for what you do.

00:16:49.000 Get the truth out there.

00:16:50.000 Okay, thank you so much.

00:16:51.000 Okay, for our next guest coming up, this assassination attempt on President Trump, obviously not happening in a vacuum.

00:17:00.000 Everybody in the United States focused on what's coming up in the next few months, which is, of course, the presidential election.

00:17:07.000 And what is consistently the number one issue concerning people across this country today, this concerns people on both sides of the political aisle, but it's the border.

00:17:19.000 And it's a conversation that gets so bogged down in politics, and anybody who knows me knows I really can't stand politics.

00:17:28.000 We get dragged into politics all the time.

00:17:30.000 There's no escape, okay?

00:17:33.000 But I am never going to abandon my mission to follow the facts, wherever they take you, and to bring insight and knowledge into these issues that help all of us transcend the politics.

00:17:44.000 And so my next guest is going to help us do that.

00:17:47.000 Somebody that I've known for a long time.

00:17:48.000 He has 22 years of experience in the United States military where he was an intelligence analyst for much of that time.

00:17:55.000 Worked for many years on the southern border and border patrol.

00:17:58.000 His military career was brought to a premature end because he refused to take experimental medical vaccine against his will and they took everything from him.

00:18:10.000 He is someone who I know to be a man of principle and who is very, very committed.

00:18:15.000 He has worked the front lines of this issue year after year after year.

00:18:19.000 He's also one of the smartest guys I have ever met in my entire life.

00:18:23.000 His name is Eamon Blair.

00:18:25.000 He is now a senior fellow at the Texas Public Policy Foundation.

00:18:30.000 It's nice to see you.

00:18:31.000 I sat through your presentation last night in my hometown in Texas and people were fascinated.

00:18:39.000 One of the things that really struck me listening to you because you and I have, you know, we've been in touch for years now and And I know a lot of what you know, but I still learn things from you, which is something I always appreciate.

00:18:52.000 So you started out by really demonstrating that what we are looking at is a policy that you called weaponized migration, where human beings have been turned into a weapon of war.

00:19:06.000 Can you explain what you mean by that?

00:19:10.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:19:11.000 So a lot of nations, they utilize human beings as a weapon of war.

00:19:19.000 And what I mean by that is, ever since the Refugee Convention in the 1950s, when the term refugee and asylum seeker was really codified in international law, nation states figured out that they could destroy the sovereignty of other nations By manufacturing a humanitarian crisis.

00:19:41.000 So if we look at what's happening at our southern border, but if we look at what's happening in Europe right now, to give you a really good example, Lukashenko, the dictator of Europe, he is the current leader of Belarus, decided that he was going to utilize the same tactic against the nation states surrounding him.

00:20:01.000 So Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.

00:20:04.000 So what he did is he Decreased his immigration standards.

00:20:08.000 And while I'm saying this, I think, wow, is what is happening in the United States similar to what is happening over there?

00:20:17.000 And so what he did, Lukashenko, he decreased his immigration status or immigration standards.

00:20:25.000 He allowed thousands of people from the Middle East and Africa into his country.

00:20:31.000 Then he transported them to the borders of Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland.

00:20:38.000 And there he knew what would happen is if Poland or the other countries pushed back and wouldn't allow them in, it would Engineer or manufacture a humanitarian crisis.

00:20:51.000 Okay, so I think, I think, Eamon, you have a photograph, right, that you showed during your presentation.

00:20:58.000 And I know we have a copy of that.

00:20:59.000 Maybe we can pull that up.

00:21:01.000 Because this, does this feed directly into what you're saying?

00:21:05.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:21:06.000 Okay.

00:21:08.000 So we'll, we'll pull that up.

00:21:09.000 And if you could carry on with what you're saying.

00:21:13.000 Sure, so Lukashenko realized that if he was able to create a humanitarian crisis large enough on these borders, it would force all of their security forces to handle that situation.

00:21:27.000 So this would force a country like Poland to decide whether they would either push them back into Belarus or accept them into their own country as refugees and asylum seekers.

00:21:43.000 And it also forced their agencies, their security agencies, whether they're military or border guard, to then put all of their resources This is really interesting because it's exactly what we've seen play out at the southern border, right?

00:22:01.000 I mean, you broke this down into two aspects in your talk.

00:22:03.000 So, this is really interesting because it's exactly what we've seen play out at the southern

00:22:11.000 border, right?

00:22:12.000 I mean, you broke this down into two aspects in your talk.

00:22:15.000 One is that you're presented with this hypocrisy cost, is what you call it, where we are forced

00:22:23.000 to choose between border security and what we feel is our sort of God sort of given human

00:22:32.000 decency, right?

00:22:33.000 When you look at this humanitarian catastrophe happening, and your response, your emotional response and everything else is, okay, we've got to help these people, we've got to focus on that.

00:22:43.000 And then you showed how that's exactly what our agencies have done.

00:22:50.000 We've gone from securing the border with the Department of Defense to now Customs and Border Protection, which now defines itself as a humanitarian agency on their own website.

00:23:00.000 So, can you expand on that and just put that in the American context?

00:23:06.000 Yeah, so when this happens, you're going to see images of children being pushed back by the Border Patrol here on the United States side.

00:23:16.000 You're going to see the depravity of human beings forced into the cartels, the hands of the cartels.

00:23:24.000 And so as a Border Patrol agent, as an agency, you're now, or as the state of Texas, since we're in Texas, you are now given the option of either pushing them back into Mexico, into the hands of the Mexican cartels or to bring them into the United States.

00:23:43.000 And it's all by design.

00:23:45.000 So the interesting thing that's actually happening in the U.S.

00:23:48.000 side is whereas other nations are doing it against other nations as a form of hybrid warfare, our nation, this is the first time in recorded history, our nation is doing it to ourselves.

00:24:04.000 And so you got to sit there and think, why?

00:24:07.000 Why is it that our current administration is using a hybrid warfare tactic of using human beings as a weapon to administer or to manufacture humanitarian crisis on our southern border, to force our agents and our agencies to then become, go from security to humanitarian relief, leaving the rest of our border Up to the cartels.

00:24:38.000 We have on the screen here a little girl, and I think this captures exactly what you're talking about.

00:24:44.000 And if I remember correctly, this is a little girl that you found when you were a border patrol agent.

00:24:50.000 And this is the reason you quit, actually.

00:24:53.000 Can you tell us about that?

00:24:57.000 So this was in the city of Roma.

00:24:57.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:25:01.000 And a tactic that the smugglers use is they'll drop off UACs or juveniles so that the rest of the group can get away.

00:25:10.000 So there was only two of us agents in Roma at that time.

00:25:15.000 And so the other one was a transport.

00:25:17.000 And so when they dropped off a 17-year-old, the transport agent took that.

00:25:21.000 And then I followed foot sign.

00:25:24.000 Uh, tracking the rest of the group and they, um, I tracked them.

00:25:28.000 They were going up the cliffs.

00:25:30.000 If you've ever been to Roma, I know you've been there many times, uh, on the Roma bluffs.

00:25:35.000 Uh, they were scaling the Roma bluffs and this little girl was on the back of, uh, uh, one of the large gentlemen in the group.

00:25:42.000 So as I was running up to the bluffs, um, I met, I approached them really close on the blacktop.

00:25:48.000 And that's when he decided to throw the little girl into the street.

00:25:53.000 Um, to try to get away from me.

00:25:55.000 Um, so of course the little girl was screaming and hysterical.

00:25:59.000 And, uh, and so I picked her up.

00:26:01.000 She immediately stopped crying or took her back to my, my kilo unit, my truck and, uh, gave her some snacks and water and whatnot.

00:26:08.000 And, and then Roma police department, which assists the border patrol in that area.

00:26:13.000 Uh, so much so we, we couldn't do our job without Roma PD.

00:26:18.000 And, uh, they, they caught a few of the members of that group.

00:26:22.000 And then so the other agent called me over and I went over there and they claimed that that girl was theirs.

00:26:29.000 So I asked to see their documents.

00:26:31.000 I was part of the Collateral Intelligence Unit during 2019, during that surge in 2019.

00:26:36.000 And so we were breaking fake families.

00:26:38.000 And so I understand what to look for in terms of false documents.

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00:30:12.000 military for 22 years.

00:30:14.000 Eamon, you were talking about this little girl right here, who you found, right, when you were a Border Patrol agent, and telling us why this is what made you quit.

00:30:28.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:30:29.000 And so, Alex, just to get back to that story a little bit and then wrap that up.

00:30:34.000 So at the end of the day, the family said that that girl was theirs.

00:30:38.000 They showed false documents.

00:30:39.000 I couldn't break them, meaning that I couldn't get them to state that they were false documents.

00:30:45.000 And so I had to let her go.

00:30:46.000 So you were handing her over to people who you knew in your heart were not her real family?

00:30:54.000 And why did that bother you so much?

00:30:54.000 Correct.

00:30:56.000 You gave up everything.

00:30:59.000 Because that was her last hope.

00:31:01.000 That was her last hope before being killed by rape.

00:31:07.000 Whether she's going to go into a life of sex trafficking, labor trafficking, or if she's going to be recycled.

00:31:13.000 How do you know that?

00:31:16.000 Well, through our many investigations ever since, really since 2019, when we were dealing with fake family units back then under the Trump administration.

00:31:25.000 That's when we started doing the rapid DNA testing and other measures to try to break this cycle of recycling of children of the Mexican cartels, kidnapping kids on the South Side, creating fake families so that they could come up North.

00:31:40.000 What people don't need to realize is It wasn't really us that were separating kids or separating families.

00:31:46.000 It was the Mexican cartels.

00:31:48.000 And so what they do is they need to get their product, quote unquote, human cargo or humans, from point A to point B. And in order to do so, they realized, based off our policies, that we would release into the country people who were a certain type of nationality.

00:32:05.000 a certain type of family unit or family group.

00:32:08.000 Then also if they passed our criminal record checks, which are pretty much zero.

00:32:14.000 If they pass all those check marks, they knew that they could get their product from point A to

00:32:17.000 point B.

00:32:19.000 On the Medkin side, they would create that type of product, whether it's fake families,

00:32:25.000 whether it's fake juvies or UACs, fake passports, fake, you name it.

00:32:32.000 Because they needed to get that product from point A to point B. But when the Biden administration came in, most of that stopped.

00:32:39.000 You stopped vetting families, you stopped DNA testing, you stopped doing most of what you're talking about.

00:32:44.000 Your job basically changed.

00:32:48.000 Our job changed from one of trying to push everything back and to adhere to our immigration law to one of bringing everyone in.

00:32:48.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:32:59.000 Because it became a humanitarian mission.

00:33:02.000 We became a humanitarian mission.

00:33:02.000 Yes ma'am.

00:33:04.000 Okay, and so if you look here, right, if you look at Customs and Border Protection at their website,

00:33:10.000 now, this is one of the slides you used in your presentation. It says right there,

00:33:15.000 humanitarian agency. So you're no longer a border security agency.

00:33:22.000 I mean, this is a job used to be done by the Department of Defense.

00:33:25.000 Now we have a humanitarian agency.

00:33:27.000 Wait, the number one priority here is rescues.

00:33:30.000 Number two is family care.

00:33:32.000 And then American safety, which I'm sure every American citizen will be thrilled to know that their safety comes third after rescues and family care for people coming from all over the world.

00:33:44.000 But your point about this, Eamon, is not that, I mean, you cared so much about what was happening, what you saw with your own eyes, that you gave up your whole career because you couldn't deal with it anymore.

00:33:55.000 And what you're trying to get people to understand is that this entire humanitarian crisis is manufactured as a weapon of war against, by our own government, against our own people.

00:34:07.000 Correct?

00:34:09.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:34:10.000 And so it's not just a weapon of war physically, so using human beings, but also in informational warfare.

00:34:10.000 Yep.

00:34:17.000 They can utilize this and state that based off of our current metrics in the Department of Homeland Security to determine whether the border is secure or not, it's all immigration related.

00:34:28.000 So therefore if our numbers go down or numbers go up they can determine whether the border is secure or not. And so

00:34:35.000 when that happens they then state oh look the only thing that we're

00:34:40.000 now focused on because we are focused on is this humanitarian crisis.

00:34:45.000 Therefore that's the only thing that is happening on our border which is not true. So correct which is not true.

00:34:52.000 But that's why, like, in 2019, when we tried getting funds appropriated so we could do expedited removals, Nancy Pelosi would state, hey, what are you talking about?

00:35:02.000 We don't need border security.

00:35:03.000 The only thing that's happening is family units, refugees, asylum seekers coming to the border because that's all you see on TV.

00:35:12.000 So not only is it a manufactured humanitarian crisis, both in the physical world, but also on the information side.

00:35:19.000 We're being duped.

00:35:20.000 It's all propaganda to let the American people know or feel guilt that what is happening on the border is just humanitarian, when in all reality our own government created it.

00:35:33.000 Okay, so Eamon, one of the things I know that you and I have talked a lot about is the fact that none of these policies, whether they're Republican or Democrat policies, they all address immigration.

00:35:43.000 They define the border in terms of immigration.

00:35:45.000 It's an immigration problem.

00:35:47.000 They ignore the cartels.

00:35:48.000 These are the cartels that, let's see, I mean, way back in 2010, they took 72 migrants out of a house in Mexico and massacred them, and that was in San Fernando.

00:36:00.000 Then the Allende Massacre was when they went into one of these towns near the border.

00:36:05.000 They killed all the ranchers first, and then they went and killed everybody else.

00:36:09.000 They just obliterated the entire town.

00:36:12.000 And just recently, Mexico had its bloodiest election in history with some 32 people murdered who were running in that election.

00:36:22.000 What all of this does, this focus on immigration ignores what is happening with the cartels.

00:36:27.000 We still don't have any policies to deal with the cartels.

00:36:30.000 And what I want to bring you to discuss that is, I mean, possibly one of the most underreported and most significant aspects of this is the information war that you mentioned.

00:36:41.000 And who, who is running that information war and who is paying for it?

00:36:46.000 Because this is the kind of thing we're talking about, right?

00:36:49.000 Explain, explain this to me.

00:36:52.000 Sure, as I said, their whole goal is to get everyone to believe that the only thing happening at our border is a humanitarian crisis through information warfare.

00:37:04.000 The largest dark money network in the United States is called Arabella Advisors.

00:37:10.000 And Arabella Advisors, through their 1630 fund, created a 501c4 called Galvanize Action.

00:37:19.000 Galvanize Action, then what they did is they got neuroscientists, behavioral scientists, And they went across all of our tech platforms.

00:37:30.000 So every think of every social media platform that all of us are on.

00:37:34.000 And they went out there and they wanted to see what the values were of each person based off of your behavior.

00:37:41.000 Like you you're buying what you buy what you put on social media.

00:37:44.000 You name it.

00:37:45.000 They wanted to figure out your values.

00:37:47.000 Then they used neuroscience to figure out, you know what we're going to do?

00:37:51.000 We need to shift these people's mindset, the people that are not politically active specifically, the people that are done with politics because they're tired of both left and right.

00:38:01.000 They wanted to get into their eyeballs and they wanted to get in front of them.

00:38:05.000 And so what they did is they used neuroscience to figure out, hey, What would it take?

00:38:12.000 What messaging would it take to move them from pro-border security to pro-open borders?

00:38:19.000 And they use behavior science and neuroscience from everyone's social media platforms and profiles to then create ads Across all of social media.

00:38:30.000 And we've got two of these ads here, right?

00:38:33.000 You want to speak specifically to this?

00:38:34.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:38:37.000 This first one we have is immigrants fight for our country.

00:38:41.000 They have our back.

00:38:42.000 We need to have theirs, right?

00:38:45.000 And then we have this one.

00:38:47.000 When my husband got sick, my neighbors brought over soup and watched the kids.

00:38:51.000 Community means taking care of each other.

00:38:53.000 My neighbor may be new to America, but she is now family to us.

00:38:59.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:39:00.000 And they're amazing in the fact that they have all quantifiable data to show how much these actually move, like what percentage points each and every one of these messages moves the target audience towards their desired belief system or agenda.

00:39:20.000 And so the one I think on the military one, I think, moved people, I think, eight percentage

00:39:25.000 points.

00:39:26.000 The one on the right moved people almost 22 percentage points towards open borders.

00:39:34.000 And so they're completely tracking everyone's habits, what's on social media, and they're

00:39:39.000 able to use information warfare and propaganda to change Americans' minds.

00:39:46.000 We talk about the silent majority.

00:39:49.000 We talk about that silent majority all the time.

00:39:52.000 But no one is really reaching them.

00:39:54.000 Well, everyone's doing it.

00:39:55.000 Arabelle Advisors, Galvanized Action, the far left, figured out a way to reach them.

00:39:59.000 And that is because every one of us is on social media.

00:40:02.000 And they're just using ads, just like a company would, to target them, to use these simple little phrases that doesn't seem political at all, but can then shift your mind.

00:40:14.000 And then once they've shifted your mind, they're going to shift your actions.

00:40:17.000 So, Eamon, while we're all focused on this humanitarian crisis that has been engineered by our own leaders, right, and we're being subjected to this disinformation campaign, what is the reality that we're missing in terms of, I know you had a piece out that said there were two days in May with more Chinese people came across the southern border than in the whole of 2021 in the entire year.

00:40:43.000 We've talked extensively about the Venezuelan cartels.

00:40:47.000 Particularly Trendaragua, which is a cartel that was created by Chavez in Venezuela inside the prison system.

00:40:56.000 So they've emptied those prisons now, which means not just random criminals.

00:40:59.000 This is an organized criminal cartel that has come into the United States that is working with the Mexican cartels and backed by the Chinese.

00:41:08.000 Can you just, can you tell us about the reality of that and the significance of it?

00:41:16.000 Yes, you mentioned before that we've never really had policies or operations against the Mexican cartels.

00:41:22.000 The Mexican cartels went from just criminal organizations to now a parallel government.

00:41:29.000 They are foreign terrorist organizations and should be designated as such.

00:41:33.000 because we've done nothing to them or against them. We've never countered them. They completely

00:41:39.000 operationally control both sides of our border. They control in Mexico, but they also control our

00:41:44.000 side. Now, many people say that that's not the case because they don't see the hyperviolence

00:41:49.000 that you do there. But because they're insurgents, they actually have a foreign strategic policy on

00:41:54.000 how to operate inside the United States and control the areas U.S. territory through other

00:42:02.000 means. And that's what they're doing. And they've gone on for over a decade now in controlling this.

00:42:09.000 So really, the Mexican cartels have built a silk road.

00:42:14.000 Not just at our border, but to every single one of our communities.

00:42:19.000 And because the Mexican cartels have done so, every single one of our adversaries, both state and non-state, realize that in order to get access to our communities, to disrupt our communities, to destabilize it, to destroy it, and reap massive financial gain at the same time, I like what the CCP is doing by weaponizing the Mexican cartels through their drug warfare against us.

00:42:45.000 They realized in order to do that, they must work with the Mexican cartels who have already built that infrastructure into every single one of our communities.

00:42:55.000 So now when Biden administration, to give an example, you mentioned Tren de Aragua, the Biden administration, when they stopped all Security efforts whatsoever, and they invited the millions of foreign nationals into our country.

00:43:18.000 What they did is they also invited Tren de Aragua.

00:43:22.000 What I mean by that is, look, Hugo Chavez, dictator, Maduro, dictator, destroying Venezuela.

00:43:29.000 Millions of people have fled.

00:43:30.000 But it really wasn't until the Biden administration that they fled to the U.S.

00:43:35.000 If you look at the data, our encounters with Venezuelans roughly in 2017 was roughly about 2,600.

00:43:44.000 Now fast forward to 2023, our encounters with Venezuelans was 334,000.

00:43:51.000 And that is all due to Biden's open borders policies.

00:43:57.000 And so because of this influx in such a short amount of time, Brandi Aragua, how they built their entire enterprise was actually off the backs of over 8 million Venezuelans leaving.

00:44:08.000 So, but Eamon, what's interesting here is that Tren de Aragua, as a Venezuelan cartel, is not in conflict with the Mexican cartels.

00:44:15.000 I mean, how did that happen?

00:44:18.000 No, they realized, Tren de Aragua realized that In order to be successful, they must make alliances.

00:44:25.000 And as you said before, is backed by the Maduro regime.

00:44:31.000 That Maduro regime, Venezuela, has its own threat network.

00:44:36.000 That threat network includes Iran.

00:44:39.000 Russia and China.

00:44:40.000 Okay, and so when the Mexican cartels are also working with the CCP in terms of fentanyl precursors, in terms of money laundering operations, in terms of a bulk cash money, you name it.

00:44:57.000 It just goes hand in hand through this threat network that Tren de Aragua has built a really good relationship actually with CJNG, Cartel Jalisco New Generation, which is the most hyper-violent Mexican cartel that exists in Mexico and throughout the world.

00:45:14.000 And through this threat network, Brindis Aragua, now you're seeing it in the United States.

00:45:19.000 You're seeing them, whether that's in Colorado, with what we just saw in Aurora with those 5,000 Venezuelans.

00:45:26.000 You're seeing it when they just did that jewelry heist.

00:45:29.000 You're seeing it in New York and Chicago.

00:45:32.000 You're seeing it all over the U.S.

00:45:33.000 and you're like, wow, what happened?

00:45:35.000 Why was it all of a sudden?

00:45:36.000 It was all of a sudden because our administration invited them through weaponized mass migration.

00:45:42.000 And Eamon, I don't think people really realize, you know, for years, when people have said we're worried about the cartels, we're worried about border security, everybody looks to the crime statistics and they say, but you don't have a lot of murder in your little border town in Arizona or, you know, Texas or wherever.

00:45:59.000 You don't have any issue there.

00:46:00.000 This is all right-wing propaganda, right?

00:46:03.000 But one of the things that you and I are now, our good friend Jason Jones, who is an incredible voice on the border, who's on Newsmax, former Texas counterterrorism specialist.

00:46:16.000 One of the things that he goes on about, on and on and on about, is that we don't actually, our police and law enforcement are not set up to monitor the crimes that relate to the cartels.

00:46:29.000 In fact, they're using an old statistic measure that really bears no relationship to the reality of where we are today.

00:46:38.000 Can you expand on that for us, please?

00:46:41.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:46:42.000 So, how we measure the criminal activity in our area is based off of something that was created in 1929, the Uniform Crime Report.

00:46:49.000 Now, it has been updated to national incident-based reporting system.

00:46:53.000 However, it doesn't cover all the crimes related to the Mexican cartels, transnational criminal organizations, the CCP, none of that inside the U.S.

00:47:00.000 Such as what?

00:47:03.000 Human trafficking, sex trafficking?

00:47:06.000 Human trafficking, sex trafficking, drug trafficking.

00:47:08.000 How about cyber attacks?

00:47:12.000 Every single criminal enterprise that the cartels, the CCP, anyone is utilizing inside the United States, we're not tracking it.

00:47:20.000 And so when we state that something is happening on the southern border, even smuggling is not being tracked.

00:47:26.000 And so therefore, people on the left will be like, hey, look, nothing is happening on the southern border, even though that smuggling is happening every second of every hour.

00:47:37.000 However, it's not being placed into the Department of Justice, I mean, DOJ's system of the Uniform Crime Report or National Incident Based Reporting System.

00:47:45.000 So it really shows that, wow, nothing really exists.

00:47:49.000 In fact, in academia right now, they're trying to make the same claim that they did with Antifa, that the Mexican cartels Are really just nothing.

00:47:58.000 They're not an organization itself.

00:48:00.000 They're just decentralized groups of people.

00:48:05.000 And that's coming from academia now.

00:48:09.000 Just what we saw with Antifa, we're now starting to see with cartels.

00:48:13.000 That is because they're going back to the data.

00:48:16.000 They testified in Congress.

00:48:18.000 Look at the data.

00:48:19.000 They keep going back to the Uniform Crime Report and the data saying the cartels are not here

00:48:24.000 and the cartels are not operating.

00:48:26.000 And so unfortunately, we're having to use anecdotal evidence, videos, you name it.

00:48:33.000 And that's where you guys come in and fit in.

00:48:35.000 News media, because you guys are really showing what's actually happening because our government refuses to show what is actually happening.

00:48:44.000 In fact, they go out of their way to try to prevent the media from seeing, and the American people from seeing what's really happening.

00:48:49.000 And Eamon, that kind of brings us, when you talk about academia, I don't think people really understand the role that academia plays in this.

00:48:58.000 When I was investigating the border for my show, I was shocked to find this real push from academia against the parents of fentanyl victims.

00:49:10.000 Who are pushing for justice, who want people dealing in fentanyl to be held accountable because, you know, they feel that that's a first step to stopping what's happening.

00:49:19.000 And yet they're being opposed by academics who, by the way, are funded by, let me see, is it people like the Open Society Foundations?

00:49:28.000 Is it people like, oh wait, Arabella Investors?

00:49:31.000 I mean, you know, and you touched on the dark money part of it.

00:49:35.000 But OK, here's a tough question, and we only have two minutes before we have to go to the break.

00:49:41.000 OK, who's funding Arabella investors?

00:49:43.000 Where does the dark money come from?

00:49:44.000 Man, all of all the people that we always talk about, whether that's George Soros, you name all the ones that we're not technically, quote unquote, allowed to talk about, that's who's really funding it.

00:49:59.000 If you look at the Democrat money in the United States, you and I were discussing this last night.

00:50:04.000 Unfortunately, they're willing to fund their war front.

00:50:09.000 And whether that's through ActBlue, whether that's through other organizations, the Democrat side and the far left are willing to put money where their mouth is.

00:50:20.000 And they have a network of affinity groups, right?

00:50:22.000 I mean, they have the Kellogg Foundation, the Tides Foundation, the Knight Foundation, the Ford Foundation.

00:50:28.000 I mean, notice the consistency there.

00:50:30.000 There's always the foundation, right?

00:50:32.000 Because this is a fabulous way to launder money.

00:50:35.000 You don't have to pay taxes.

00:50:37.000 It doesn't matter if you violate your 5013C status of being non-partisan, because you're not going to be held accountable.

00:50:43.000 That's the reality if you're one of these groups.

00:50:46.000 No one's ever seen any of them being held accountable for that.

00:50:51.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:50:52.000 Just like the slide just showed, H-I-A-S.

00:50:56.000 Todd Benson right now is in the Darien Gap, showing how that NGO is 100% assisting and facilitating the invasion of the United States.

00:51:07.000 And so he's there right now, just trying to blow the lid on that organization, just as our friend has as well on his social media.

00:51:18.000 Just all these NGOs.

00:51:19.000 The state of Florida also just did a massive investigation in terms of these NGOs, where the money is coming from,

00:51:26.000 how Congress is actually appropriating the funds for it.

00:51:30.000 So really where the money is coming from is you, us, taxpayers, it's coming from our wallet.

00:51:37.000 We are the ones who are funding the invasion.

00:51:38.000 We're the ones who are funding human trafficking.

00:51:41.000 We're the ones who are funding all of this, all the nefarious activities.

00:51:44.000 We're funding our own destruction.

00:51:47.000 Okay, Eamon, thank you so much for joining us.

00:51:49.000 It's always a great pleasure for me to talk to you because I learn so much from you, and I know that everything comes from what you have seen with your own eyes.

00:51:57.000 You're like me.

00:51:58.000 We like first-hand sources for our news.

00:52:01.000 Okay, and... Yes, ma'am.

00:52:02.000 Coming up on InfoWars, we're coming up with a break now, and when we come back after the break, we have a guest that you have never heard from before.

00:52:11.000 I know this because she works undercover in the counter-trafficking world.

00:52:15.000 This is, we're going to take it from the border to your homes, your communities, your schools, and your children.

00:52:21.000 And this is something that is very close to my own heart.

00:52:25.000 Coming up on InfoWars, I'm Laura Logan filling in for Alex Jones.

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00:56:29.000 We are back at InfoWars.

00:56:32.000 I'm Laura Logan filling in for Alex Jones.

00:56:34.000 And one of the things that was making kind of news across social media was on the one year anniversary of the very strange but devastating fires in Maui.

00:56:47.000 is another strange story that the FBI and local law enforcement have now confirmed that

00:56:55.000 they found they're investigating IEDs that were found around the area.

00:57:01.000 And you know, anybody who remembers that and looked at what those fires really looked like

00:57:07.000 still has significant questions about what really happened there.

00:57:12.000 It's a year later and the devastation to that community has pretty much been glossed over and forgotten.

00:57:21.000 So we just wanted to remind everybody that we're looking at a year since the devastating fires in Maui.

00:57:27.000 And something's still really odd that these IEDs are coming up.

00:57:31.000 Makes you want to ask the question, is somebody trying to get rid of these people?

00:57:35.000 Is anybody trying to force these people to abandon that island?

00:57:39.000 Because they sure have been through a lot, and we know absolutely nothing about what really happened there all this time later.

00:57:47.000 So now, moving on from that, for our next segment coming up, we're going to talk to somebody that I have known for a number of years, who works very closely alongside law enforcement in the counter-trafficking arena.

00:58:03.000 We can't show you her face.

00:58:06.000 Um, because she works undercover, and we have altered her voice to protect her identity, but I am very familiar with her operations.

00:58:16.000 She has been responsible for some of the most significant busts in the history of counter-trafficking, and her work on the front line is something that We'll change how you look at all of this.

00:58:32.000 And if you're a mom or a dad, it's really going to bother you a lot.

00:58:38.000 One of the areas I want to start with is media grooming.

00:58:42.000 And I want to show you an article from the Guardian newspaper, which is a leftist publication out of the UK, that is all about furries.

00:58:51.000 OK, and furries is something kind of odd, kind of weird.

00:58:54.000 Nobody really wants to talk about it in the mainstream, but it is very much part of the gaming community.

00:58:59.000 It's part of the TikTok world and the YouTube world, and it's part of what surrounds all of our children today.

00:59:08.000 And so what you see is a form of media grooming.

00:59:12.000 That was published in The Guardian.

00:59:16.000 I'm calling it media grooming.

00:59:17.000 That's the term I'm making up.

00:59:19.000 Because this article is all about how there's nothing to see here.

00:59:23.000 You know, just because you got a bunch of adults dressing up as furries, don't listen to those far-right people that tell you that this is somehow connected to trafficking and the trance movement and pedophilia because they're far-right crazies, right?

00:59:36.000 And we all know that we should pay attention to them.

00:59:41.000 Uh, lest you be called, you know, prejudiced in some way.

00:59:43.000 Um, but why I wanted to bring this to you is that, is that our next guest has seen the other side of that world firsthand and just in the last few days rescued a young boy.

00:59:59.000 From that world.

01:00:01.000 Who was autistic, by the way, because it's another thing we don't talk about, how much these communities prey, how much the trafficking is targeted towards the most vulnerable of our kids.

01:00:12.000 So I want to bring in our guest here to tell you, to give you a sense of the reality from her perspective, what she has actually seen on the street.

01:00:24.000 Do we have Jackie?

01:00:25.000 Is she with us?

01:00:27.000 Okay.

01:00:28.000 Yes, I'm here.

01:00:30.000 Jackie, welcome to the show.

01:00:31.000 I know this is a big deal for you.

01:00:35.000 You don't like to be out in front of this.

01:00:38.000 All of your work is pretty much in the shadows and much of it in the dark, literally.

01:00:42.000 So, can you give us a sense from your perspective, right, when you see articles like this that are out there that are normalizing the world of furries, gives a history as it being kind of a nerdy thing, it's kind of a friendly thing.

01:00:57.000 It's a nice community and why should we pay attention to people who are warning?

01:01:03.000 And we are back at InfoWars.

01:01:05.000 I'm Laura Logan filling in for Alex Jones.

01:01:07.000 Our next guest is somebody you will never have heard from, who is a very significant person working undercover alongside law enforcement and counter-trafficking.

01:01:17.000 She knows from first-hand experience what she is talking about.

01:01:21.000 And, Jackie, what we wanted to ask you about, thank you for agreeing to do this.

01:01:25.000 I know you can't show your face for your own security and also the security of your investigations, but we appreciate being able to hear from you.

01:01:34.000 Can you take us, first of all, right into this world of furries and anime and gaming that is very much a part of the trafficking organizations that you deal with on a daily basis?

01:01:52.000 Well, I think it's a misnomer.

01:01:55.000 Bleeding in anime and the furry, furry dough is all an innocence, but it is absolutely not.

01:02:02.000 When you look at the most vulnerable of our society, it is going to be children.

01:02:07.000 It is going to be children that are separated from social functions.

01:02:11.000 They have social awareness issues sometimes.

01:02:14.000 We've got kids that are even autistic that are heavily, heavily

01:02:18.000 into the gaming community.

01:02:20.000 And that's where we find a lot of the furry freedom fantasy, the anime.

01:02:25.000 The problem with it is that on the adult level, when you're looking at it,

01:02:29.000 it seems like it's just innocuous.

01:02:31.000 It's just people out there having fun.

01:02:33.000 But when you start peeling back the layers of things that are hidden

01:02:38.000 in the chat rooms and in discord in the gaming community, you start looking at pedophilia.

01:02:45.000 You start looking at the poor and the hentai.

01:02:48.000 And these are very adult conversations, adult materials that our kids are now getting access to because they're connecting with these groups.

01:02:58.000 And they're not innocent.

01:02:59.000 It's actually very dangerous.

01:03:00.000 and we're seeing it a lot in trafficking because they're pulling kids in,

01:03:05.000 they're getting them to chat with them, they're building these fantasy type of relationships.

01:03:09.000 And these kids believe that these are their friends, that they're part of this chat tribe.

01:03:13.000 And the next thing you know, they're running off to go meet them somewhere.

01:03:18.000 And that's where things get really, really squirrely and scary when it comes to trafficking.

01:03:22.000 So you're talking about the furry world right on the surface

01:03:27.000 It looks like there's nothing there really for parents to worry about.

01:03:31.000 But that's right adjacent to the anime world.

01:03:35.000 And then you mentioned hentai.

01:03:38.000 Can you explain what that is for people who aren't necessarily familiar with that kind of terminology?

01:03:47.000 Um, it's anime and it's extreme graphic sex.

01:03:51.000 And it's, you know, sometimes there's AI-generated pictures in there.

01:03:57.000 And when it comes to the fantasy world of what these people see and what these people interact with, You know, even in the furry world, you could be dealing with somebody that just likes to dress up in costumes and go to Comic-Con.

01:04:10.000 It goes from that to people that believe in zoophilia, which is bestiality.

01:04:15.000 It's people that have sex in their costumes.

01:04:18.000 It's people that host cartoon animal characters having graphic sex.

01:04:24.000 It's a different world than what you see on the surface.

01:04:27.000 Most people don't know that this exists unless they actually go out there to research it.

01:04:32.000 The problem is that your kids do see it, and they do have access to it.

01:04:36.000 You can go to Vulcan forums on Snapchat, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, and you can see these characters having sex, graphic sex.

01:04:46.000 is uploaded to Pornhub, to the porn channels.

01:04:50.000 It is something that, you know, you take a woodland furry creature, which seems very

01:04:55.000 innocent and cute, and you entice kids to this fantasy world, and the next thing you

01:05:01.000 know you're looking at graphic, graphic sex.

01:05:05.000 So one of the things we're looking at right here is a Facebook group called Furry Love,

01:05:10.000 right, which is about, which is all about furries and a furry community.

01:05:15.000 We had to blur it out because this is an artist drawing that somebody in that group created, but it's too pornographic for us to show on air.

01:05:24.000 And if you read the conversation below, you see that they're talking about furry communities on Discord, but also talking about People who are disabled and asking questions about that, raising it.

01:05:39.000 I think there's one term, there's ADPL or something, Adult Baby Diaper Love, ABDL.

01:05:46.000 I mean, and one of the users in that group makes the point that there are minors in that group.

01:05:53.000 And so how common is this on social media sites like Facebook?

01:05:59.000 Well, you can pull it up probably.

01:06:02.000 I would say anywhere between 50 to 60 groups that deal with this.

01:06:06.000 And that's just Facebook.

01:06:07.000 A lot of your minors aren't even on Facebook.

01:06:09.000 They're on Snapchat and TikTok.

01:06:12.000 But there are a few that probably trickle in there.

01:06:15.000 But the fact that they even have minors engaged in this conversation is what's disgusting.

01:06:21.000 Because if you take an average person or not, you know, when we talk about kids talking to adults about sex, it's, you know, it's an exploitation.

01:06:29.000 But in this furry community of an anime, I'm not sure why we're not doing more of a target, you know, and looking at the sources of where this information comes from and watching some of these people that want to engage with minors.

01:06:42.000 You know, it's...

01:06:44.000 Peeling back the layers and looking at these people and where they are in the gaming community and talking to these kids on Discord and getting into chat rooms and then you go back and you look at some of the conversations that they have on other platforms and the things that they describe.

01:06:59.000 They describe hypnotizing minors, they describe having sex with minors, doping minors, sexually assaulting minors.

01:07:08.000 And, you know, that might be part of their fantasy, but what happens when they break out of that fantasy and they next level it up and they can no longer be sexually gratified by talking about it or drawing pictures or creating images in AI and they act out, you know, with that minor.

01:07:24.000 That's what we really need to be watching and need to be concerned about.

01:07:28.000 So, Jackie, I mean, your point is not that every person who is a furry is a pedophile.

01:07:34.000 I'm far from it.

01:07:35.000 What you're trying to say is that, what you are saying is that this community, right, is used as a cover by people who are pedophiles.

01:07:45.000 And they use, this is a, is this a form of grooming?

01:07:49.000 Is that what we're looking at?

01:07:51.000 Oh, of course.

01:07:52.000 I mean, you know, you have to think about people that try to connect them with minors, right?

01:07:57.000 And you find them in all levels of, you know, minor activities and minor interests.

01:08:03.000 When you look at the gaming community and kids, you know, the gaming world becomes their social outreach.

01:08:10.000 Those become their online friends, almost their family.

01:08:14.000 And they start having conversations about transgendering, and sex, and gender modification.

01:08:21.000 It builds into a very weird state.

01:08:24.000 And when we've looked at some of these gaming developers, and we've looked at some of the people interacting with these kids, that's exactly what they're a part of.

01:08:32.000 And they're using this furry world or this anime world to connect with these kids and then they start having conversations with them about sexuality and, you know, misgendering and gender dysphoria and gender modification.

01:08:47.000 Which absolutely has nothing to do with the game that you're playing online.

01:08:50.000 So they've used this as an inroad.

01:08:53.000 And I'm not saying that everybody in that community is part of this pedophilia network, but the pedophiles have absolutely found a way in.

01:09:01.000 And they found you could be in a living room with your kids, and you're on the computer, and they're on their computer, and you think they're just playing a game, and these monsters are in your living room.

01:09:12.000 That's what's scary.

01:09:14.000 Yeah so that's that is very scary for for any parent because look at this what we got up here.

01:09:18.000 Bucks County man ordered held trial for trial on child rape charges during furry party.

01:09:24.000 So this is what's interesting about this case is it shows you how it's adults dressed as

01:09:30.000 furries having a party that are passing around this eight-year-old boy who was raped repeatedly

01:09:35.000 over a number of years.

01:09:37.000 And there's a bunch of, in that thing, there's a bunch of other men who were charged.

01:09:40.000 And that one of them was charged with child rape, possession of child pornography, and

01:09:45.000 related charges.

01:09:46.000 Another one in that group of pedophiles charged with unlawful contact with a minor and attempted

01:09:50.000 involuntary deviant sexual intercourse.

01:09:54.000 I mean, you know, statutory sexual assault related charges.

01:09:58.000 Another guy in that pedophile ring, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse with a child, unlawful

01:10:02.000 contact with a minor, and related charges.

01:10:05.000 And another one, charged with bestiality and animal cruelty.

01:10:08.000 That's another pedophile.

01:10:09.000 In that ring, in that bust of men who were using, dressing up as furries and raping children and animals at these furry parties.

01:10:19.000 And that's, you know, that's a reality, right?

01:10:23.000 In fact, at Comic Con, you mentioned that early on, there was just a child I mean, a trafficking ring was busted at the most recent Comic-Con conference.

01:10:33.000 There were a number of people arrested, and I believe ten victims.

01:10:37.000 At least one of them is a 16-year-old girl who was freed when they broke up that pedophile ring at Comic-Con.

01:10:46.000 So what you see here is a pattern where traffickers are using, you know, comics, anime, the furry community, transgenderism.

01:10:55.000 Everything this it's a community that they can infiltrate and they target the most vulnerable and Parents have no idea that when they open the door to these worlds They are opening up the door to some of the most evil people on earth.

01:11:11.000 Is that accurate?

01:11:15.000 It's very accurate and it's it's something that I think a community that works in anti-trafficking needs to start discussing.

01:11:23.000 They need to start taking this more seriously. This is not a, you know, a victimless furry

01:11:28.000 party where we're just all dressing up and being weird. You know, adults have, you know, different

01:11:34.000 levels of kink. We know that they have fetish parties all over the United States. We know they

01:11:39.000 have fetish clubs. You know, adults can consent. But when you start going into a world

01:11:45.000 of children and minors, especially minors that may have social skills, abuse, past abuse issues, or

01:11:53.000 might be have a spectrum disorder.

01:11:56.000 And you are gaining their trust, and you're acting out on these games as these characters, and you're engaging in this false narrative world, and you're using, you know, cute little furry creatures to cartoon.

01:12:11.000 Just something these kids can connect to that gives them a safe space to be themselves without having to go to a party, and they're accepted, and these people gain their trust.

01:12:22.000 It's what pedophiles do.

01:12:24.000 It's what traffickers Let's talk about the one thing that is probably the most underreported about this.

01:12:30.000 It is how much boys are the target.

01:12:33.000 And nobody is paying attention to this.

01:12:36.000 And we really need to be paying attention to this.

01:12:38.000 Let's talk about the one thing that is probably the most underreported about this.

01:12:43.000 It is how much boys are the target.

01:12:46.000 I know you were just involved in the rescue of an autistic boy.

01:12:51.000 And that prompted you and I to have a conversation about this.

01:12:55.000 There are different categories of boys, right?

01:12:57.000 You have femboys, B.O.I., and you have twinks, right, which is another form.

01:13:05.000 Can you just explain what these categories are and what they mean and how vulnerable boys are in particular?

01:13:14.000 There's some reason this fandom targets boys more than they do girls.

01:13:19.000 And most people don't understand in the world of trafficking that a trans kid or a trans person will garner three times the amount of a normal child as far as money.

01:13:32.000 And the number one purveyor of that is couples.

01:13:36.000 So that sounds bizarre, I know.

01:13:40.000 It is something that we see far more.

01:13:42.000 I just want to be clear, I understand this.

01:13:44.000 So trans kids are worth three times what a normal kid is, a heterosexual kid is, on the street in the trafficking world right now.

01:13:57.000 Correct.

01:13:57.000 Is that right?

01:13:58.000 And the number one customer that is hiring or buying trans kids is married couples?

01:14:07.000 Yes, that's correct.

01:14:10.000 And the fantasy part of this is they have a boy that has transitioned to a girl and

01:14:19.000 the femboy is a sissy boy, I guess in those terms.

01:14:26.000 And then you have your, what they call a twink, and that is usually just a feminine boy that

01:14:30.000 is not necessarily identifying as a female, but it's a challenge for them to break.

01:14:36.000 And that is a really hot item and a hot target for them.

01:14:40.000 They like taking what they call a twink and turning them or having sex with them as part

01:14:46.000 of this very sick fantasy that they have.

01:14:49.000 And you will see offers for this in the trafficking world and escort apps.

01:14:56.000 And when they talk about twink, that's not a nice term.

01:15:01.000 It is a boy.

01:15:02.000 But we see the boys targeted far more in this realm than girls.

01:15:06.000 Most of the time when people talk about trafficking, they think of it as being minor females.

01:15:11.000 When it comes to this world of transgenderism and twins and semi-boys and the furry culture, the biggest target is actually boys.

01:15:22.000 And what do you do with boys?

01:15:24.000 Is there anywhere for them to go?

01:15:28.000 There are very few safe houses out there for boys.

01:15:31.000 They need to have more.

01:15:33.000 They need to actually look at developing safe houses that would be one-person units for the transgender kids.

01:15:41.000 They do need a safe place to go because I can tell you that depending upon the age of them, a lot of them are not even being picked up and taken into safety.

01:15:50.000 Seventeen-year-olds seem to be falling through the cracks because they're considered to be an age of consent, even though they're still in high school.

01:15:58.000 And, you know, these kids don't have a safe place to land.

01:16:00.000 A lot of them end up on the street.

01:16:02.000 I've watched one particular case for the last four years.

01:16:05.000 It started out as a minor.

01:16:08.000 They kept skipping around with no place to go.

01:16:11.000 And, you know, they're now adult.

01:16:14.000 And it's sad because they're still out on the street and there's still traffic.

01:16:17.000 I mean, it's just, it's horrible.

01:16:19.000 You know, the sad part about this is our society has blinders on and we need to open up our eyes and look at this as not being a harmless activity.

01:16:29.000 Not everybody involved in these worlds is dark, but they are using these worlds, the dark people are, to gain access to your kids.

01:16:39.000 So we need to be monitoring closely those discords, those chat rooms, the games that they're playing, the people that they're talking to.

01:16:47.000 So what are the number one ways?

01:16:52.000 I know you've mentioned Discord a lot.

01:16:54.000 That's for the gaming community.

01:16:57.000 TikTok, I'm guessing, is a big way.

01:17:00.000 Where should parents be most concerned and most aware?

01:17:05.000 Well, I think the top three right now are Discord, Snapchat, and TikTok.

01:17:10.000 And the reason I say that is that when we go in and train and talk to kids, you know, we usually talk to them for about less than three minutes about the apps that we recommend that they avoid.

01:17:21.000 And then we turn the floor over to them, and we basically give them the mic and say, teach us.

01:17:27.000 Tell us where you've been approached.

01:17:29.000 Tell us where people have been inappropriate.

01:17:30.000 Tell us where people have tried to recruit you.

01:17:33.000 Where you've seen things that have offended you or made you feel like people were stalking you.

01:17:39.000 Hands down, every single environment we're in, Discord is number one, followed by Snapchat, TikTok, and then Omegle.

01:17:46.000 And so, the kids are the ones that are telling us that this is where they're going, and a lot of them feel unsafe.

01:17:53.000 And this is where we have the predators stalking them in these channels.

01:17:58.000 And as adults, you know, we need to be monitoring these transactions and then finding out who these people are and hold them accountable.

01:18:05.000 And are any of these platforms held accountable?

01:18:08.000 Would that be something that would be helpful to you?

01:18:10.000 I mean, how do you deal with this?

01:18:12.000 What's the number one thing you want to see happen?

01:18:16.000 Well, I think social media, I mean, becomes so, you know, polarized in politics, and it's amazing to me the things that they will take down off of social media, but they'll leave channels like this up that clearly has cartoon porn, and then sometimes you'll see a blip of human porn on there.

01:18:35.000 And it's an open channel.

01:18:36.000 I mean, yes, you need to join the group, but anybody can log into one of these Facebook groups and they can see the stuff scroll by.

01:18:44.000 They can't comment on it because they haven't joined the group, but they can see it.

01:18:48.000 And if that means that, you know, it's an open channel, that means any minor can see it.

01:18:53.000 And it's not harmless.

01:18:54.000 You know, anime porn, hentai, furry porn is still porn.

01:18:58.000 And it's still planting the seed in a child's mind of sexual activity and sexual gratification that doesn't need to be there.

01:19:05.000 We don't need to be having conversations about heterosexual or homosexual sex with an 8-year-old child.

01:19:12.000 And what happens to the traffickers?

01:19:16.000 I mean, how effective is law enforcement when it comes to the traffickers themselves?

01:19:25.000 I think the traffickers are being arrested and law enforcement, I believe in a lot of areas, is doing the best job that they can.

01:19:33.000 The number one thing that I would be pushing for right now is to make these traffickers register as sex offenders because they are not registering as sex offenders and they're getting back out on the street and they're repeating their deeds.

01:19:47.000 Uh, some of them might switch from trafficking on the street to trafficking online.

01:19:51.000 And if we have them registering as sex offenders, whether they get, you know, two days, two years, two hundred years, we have this, uh, penalty attached to them, and now they have to register just like somebody that's, you know, involved in child exploitation.

01:20:05.000 And, you know, grooming online, and trying to get kids to meet you and send you nudes, and they should have the book thrown at them, just like any other predator.

01:20:16.000 Unfortunately, it's where the trafficking laws need to catch up with the times.

01:20:20.000 We're a little bit behind, but I think we have a lot of good people out there in this movement right now that are seeing this, and we're bringing this awareness to legislators and hoping that we can get some laws passed so that we can start making a real difference.

01:20:32.000 But as a parent, you really need to be monitoring and looking at your child's activity, because the furries in the anime world is not harmless.

01:20:40.000 They can be sucked into a very dark world very quickly.

01:20:44.000 Because the pedophiles are hiding in there, those channels.

01:20:46.000 Is this kind of an ungoverned space?

01:20:49.000 I mean, is this something that law enforcement are not really, you know, local police officers are not really equipped to deal with?

01:20:55.000 I mean, how vulnerable are our kids once they get sucked into this world?

01:21:03.000 Well, a lot of times people look at online activity and they believe that that's harmless activity unless they have actually exchanged photos or asked for a photo or committed physical crime.

01:21:14.000 And when people are fantasizing openly about raping children or tying them down or drugging them, or performing sex acts on them, it's just a matter of time

01:21:25.000 before they level up to the next level because it's no longer going to gratify them

01:21:29.000 anymore to voice these things and to make all their own self-videos.

01:21:33.000 They're going to escalate that behavior.

01:21:35.000 So they do need to be watched for sure.

01:21:37.000 And if they are asking kids for nudes and for to perform acts, then they should absolutely

01:21:44.000 be prosecuted for that.

01:21:45.000 Jackie, what do you say to people who want to paint this as a right-wing slur against

01:21:52.000 innocent communities and push back against this and say, you know, there's really nothing

01:21:58.000 to see here?

01:22:01.000 Well, to politicize this is absolutely ridiculous.

01:22:05.000 I have never seen a predator ask children, how do your parents vote?

01:22:09.000 What church do you go to?

01:22:11.000 What nationality are you?

01:22:13.000 They don't care.

01:22:14.000 They want your children.

01:22:15.000 You know, this is a bipartisan issue.

01:22:17.000 We need to be pulling together because these are all of our kids.

01:22:20.000 And these predators do not care if your parents vote Democrat or Republican.

01:22:26.000 They have basically hijacked the LGBTQIA by trying to hide underneath their flag.

01:22:31.000 And I know a lot of people in that community that are appalled by this.

01:22:36.000 There's a lot of people out there that are going to do everything they can to bring these monsters down.

01:22:40.000 We just have to pull together and not let them divide us on this topic.

01:22:45.000 Thank you so much for talking to us, Jackie.

01:22:47.000 We're going to take a short break.

01:22:49.000 We will be back coming up on InfoWars after the break.

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01:28:11.000 Welcome back to InfoWars, I'm Laura Logan filling in for Alex Jones.

01:28:15.000 Now there's a subject that Alex and I talked about a little bit this morning, something he's discussed a lot on this show, and that is what is happening in the UK.

01:28:25.000 Because Europe, we've talked a lot about the border during the last few hours, and what we're seeing in Europe is the result of an open border policy to immigration in the United Kingdom and across Europe.

01:28:39.000 So, we want to show you there's an analysis that came out on British TV, I believe it is, that sums up what has been happening from the perspective of ordinary people who are being demonized in the United Kingdom by the media and by their leaders, incredibly, as being far-right, just because they want to ask questions and speak up in demand.

01:29:03.000 security for themselves and their families. So we're going to show you that video here,

01:29:07.000 if we can pull that up and play that for you, so you can take a listen and hear it for yourself.

01:29:15.000 I think that there is a concerted attempt now to pull the wool over your eyes about what's really going on in this

01:29:21.000 country.

01:29:22.000 You were told to expect 100 far-right protests last night.

01:29:26.000 That whipped up a huge amount of fear.

01:29:29.000 One of the people whipping up some of that fear, arguably, was the director of hard-left Hope Not Hate group, who this morning tweeted...

01:29:37.000 Yes, this list, i.e.

01:29:39.000 the list of locations that were expected to be attacked, this list was a hoax.

01:29:44.000 But just look at the front pages of today's papers.

01:29:47.000 An anti-racist message is being transmitted to millions of homes this morning.

01:29:52.000 Well, he later went some way to retracting that tweet.

01:29:55.000 But let's just have a look at those newspaper front pages and headlines, shall we?

01:29:59.000 So, I strongly suspect that the Daily Mail and the Deli Express came under huge commercial pressure here.

01:30:05.000 Don't you?

01:30:07.000 Then, this morning, out strolls our Met Police Chief, Mark Rowley, like the cat who got the cream.

01:30:13.000 It was a massive policing operation.

01:30:15.000 I'm really pleased with how it went.

01:30:17.000 We put thousands of officers on the streets and I think the show of force from the police And frankly the show of unity from communities together defeated the challenges that we've seen.

01:30:28.000 It went off very peacefully last night.

01:30:31.000 A couple of locations we had some local criminals turn out and try and create a bit of antisocial behaviour and we arrested a few of them.

01:30:37.000 But it was a very successful night and the fears of extreme right disorder were abated.

01:30:44.000 Firstly, we can't call what happened last night counter-protest.

01:30:47.000 Because there was nothing to protest about, was there?

01:30:49.000 What was it?

01:30:50.000 The ghost of the EDL?

01:30:51.000 Was it?

01:30:52.000 Secondly, the country's top cop has just given the green light to people to come out in force on the street and mob up, in my view.

01:30:59.000 We saw very hard-left radicals there.

01:31:01.000 That's according to their flag that they've got.

01:31:03.000 They were out in Brighton.

01:31:05.000 There was a huge pro-Palestine presence.

01:31:07.000 The same group of people who have been rampaging through towns and cities for months now, causing all sorts of problems.

01:31:14.000 And then there was this.

01:31:16.000 They hurt.

01:31:18.000 We've got children and women using those trains to do the summer Olympics.

01:31:24.000 They are disgusting, nasty bastards.

01:31:27.000 And we need to cut off their throats and get rid of them all.

01:31:30.000 I just want to say thank you all. I'm going to leave it there.

01:31:38.000 I'm going to leave it now.

01:31:41.000 Free!

01:31:42.000 Palestine!

01:31:43.000 Thank you.

01:31:44.000 God bless you all.

01:31:49.000 That is a now suspended Labour councillor who has just been arrested on suspicion of encouraging murder.

01:31:55.000 And there was this as well.

01:31:57.000 There have been 10 arrests in Croydon and we're told, look, hey, don't worry, that was nothing to do with any riots or protests.

01:32:04.000 That was just anti-social behaviour.

01:32:08.000 Yeah, alright.

01:32:10.000 So, what happened last night appears to have been a massively exaggerated national threat that brought loads of people out onto the streets with these placards everywhere as well.

01:32:19.000 You know, the same placards you see all the time, refugees welcome, all of that.

01:32:23.000 Refugees welcome.

01:32:24.000 The establishment media then piles in behind it to make it look like the nation fought off the Nazis.

01:32:31.000 And now, we've got this going on, haven't we?

01:32:34.000 We have some breaking news now, and a woman has been arrested by Cheshire Police in relation to an inaccurate information on social media about the attacker in the Southport murders.

01:32:48.000 And today, Sir Keir Starmer feels that he can shamelessly ignore people's concerns about immigration and just crack on.

01:32:56.000 If we have indeed turned a corner and seen an end to the violence, is now the time to engage with the underlying tensions that are in communities over the issue of immigration?

01:33:07.000 The first priority is safety and security of our communities.

01:33:13.000 The term gaslighting is defined as being to manipulate people using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

01:33:22.000 I think we might be being gaslit.

01:33:25.000 What about you?

01:33:27.000 So what about that, when you're watching that video about what's happening in the UK feels familiar for Americans, right?

01:33:35.000 How does it tie in to what we're seeing happen here?

01:33:38.000 Well, immigration is an issue there.

01:33:40.000 Border security is an issue.

01:33:41.000 And what are they doing to crush the conversation about border security?

01:33:46.000 They are creating a humanitarian crisis.

01:33:49.000 They're making it a humanitarian issue.

01:33:51.000 We love refugees.

01:33:53.000 Can you not love refugees and want to be secure in your homes?

01:33:57.000 I know you can, because I've spent years reporting on the southern border and something that we don't talk about a lot is that most, the vast majority of border patrol agents, people involved in border security down on the southern border in the state of Texas, for example, are Hispanic Americans.

01:34:14.000 Many of whom, you know, are first or second generation whose families came here seeking a better life, right?

01:34:22.000 And so they recognize the threat that's coming from the cartels and they want to be secure and safe in their own homes.

01:34:30.000 But what is the propaganda narrative that we have to deal with?

01:34:33.000 Is that somehow there's this binary choice and that if you choose security, That's somehow a vote against humanity.

01:34:41.000 That you don't care about people who are coming across who want a better life.

01:34:45.000 But what did we see on the show today?

01:34:48.000 We heard from a Border Patrol agent who gave up his entire career because he realized that he was being used by transnational criminal organizations and the federal government to help traffic children.

01:35:02.000 So instead of bringing them into the United States for a better life, People across this country still believe that everybody coming here is getting a shot at the American dream.

01:35:12.000 Well, what if you're a child that's being trafficked by the cartels or a woman, many of them pregnant?

01:35:18.000 Just look at Texas law enforcement.

01:35:21.000 They bust open a trafficking ring where women who were eight months pregnant were having to show up every day to a room behind a gas station to be raped all day.

01:35:30.000 by men that they didn't know until they paid off their debt to the cartels.

01:35:34.000 And guess who decides when that debt is paid off? Yeah, you guessed it, the cartels, right?

01:35:39.000 And so these people are not interested in your well-being.

01:35:41.000 What kind of person would make a pregnant woman subject herself to being raped

01:35:46.000 over and over again every single day?

01:35:48.000 I mean, these are people without conscience who are responsible for this. But somehow,

01:35:54.000 somehow it strikes me from the years that I've spent investigating it that those who are elected

01:36:00.000 into a position of authority, who have the ability to do something about it and lie to

01:36:06.000 the American people who they're supposed to serve.

01:36:10.000 That there's a level of evil that comes along with that, that in some ways feels even worse.

01:36:17.000 And what is striking about the conversation in the UK at the moment is that it's the exact same conversation that we're having all over the world, not just in the United States.

01:36:29.000 And that tells you that you're looking at the same policies that are being applied.

01:36:35.000 Which is not a surprise because we're in the midst of an undeclared war that is really a war for your mind.

01:36:42.000 And a war for your mind plays out primarily in the information space, right?

01:36:46.000 I mean, that's what we're looking at now, an information war where...

01:36:51.000 They can create a reality in the digital world that, whether it's true or not, doesn't really matter because of the impact that it has on your life.

01:37:00.000 So that's what that young man was talking about in the video from GB News.

01:37:04.000 He was saying they created this big warning, right, that there's going to be all these protests, this massive security threat from the evil far right that's going to take place all across the country.

01:37:16.000 And then it doesn't materialize.

01:37:18.000 Well, how do you even know if that threat was real?

01:37:21.000 And this is something that I have watched as a journalist.

01:37:25.000 I have watched this develop in this country for years now.

01:37:29.000 The great white threat.

01:37:31.000 This is something that I have been tracking law enforcement bulletins.

01:37:36.000 intelligence bulletins or send law enforcement sensitive notifications that have gone out

01:37:43.000 to law enforcement across this country that go out every day and they document the threats

01:37:50.000 that we face.

01:37:51.000 And when you look at the number of postings that are supposed to be about the white supremacist

01:37:57.000 threat, and you take a look and you say, okay, so I got to figure this out, right?

01:38:01.000 I want to know if this is real or not.

01:38:03.000 Where is it coming from?

01:38:04.000 Who's responsible for it?

01:38:05.000 And this is the normal process of being a journalist.

01:38:08.000 But when you take a look at it, what you find a lot of the time is chat rooms, conversations

01:38:15.000 in chat rooms, and photographs of these chat rooms.

01:38:18.000 And why is that not convincing?

01:38:21.000 Well, when you go fast forward to something like the right wing plot to assassinate Gretchen

01:38:26.000 Whitman, the governor of Michigan, right?

01:38:30.000 What happened when you dug a little bit deeper in that case?

01:38:32.000 It fell apart, right?

01:38:34.000 It fell apart in court, actually.

01:38:36.000 And why did it fall apart?

01:38:38.000 Because it was manufactured.

01:38:39.000 None of the people who were supposed to be supposed to be plotting to kidnap the governor had any real interest in kidnapping the governor.

01:38:48.000 So much so that even in a time where there's a lot of political pressure to prove this narrative to be true, it falls apart.

01:38:56.000 In the court systems, and we know that there aren't a lot of judges lining up to go against the political narrative of the day.

01:39:02.000 It takes courage to do that.

01:39:04.000 And we don't see it often enough.

01:39:06.000 So when you see a case like that fall apart, you know it was really, really bad, right?

01:39:10.000 I mean, that's what it tells you.

01:39:12.000 You can look at the court records.

01:39:13.000 You know, one of these gentlemen who was accused of being a kidnapper, he was homeless.

01:39:18.000 I believe he was living in his parents' basement.

01:39:20.000 And they gave him a, um, one of the FBI agents that was, I don't know how they didn't get charged for entrapment, but that was involved in creating this fake plot, offered him a credit card.

01:39:31.000 I think it was about $5,000.

01:39:32.000 It was prepaid and he was, they were giving it to him to go and buy weapons and he wouldn't do it.

01:39:38.000 He was that uninterested in kidnapping the governor that he would not even take a handout, okay, from one of these people.

01:39:47.000 So, I mean, it's laughable in one sense, but it's extremely disturbing in another sense, because it ties back to what our guest from the Texas Public Policy Foundation, Eamon Blair, said.

01:40:00.000 This is the first time in history, right?

01:40:02.000 Weaponized migration is not new, but it's the first time in the history of this country that we have ever seen the government of this country use that weapon against its own people.

01:40:13.000 And that's the same thing that's happening.

01:40:15.000 It's the same tactic when you talk about white supremacists and the great white threat and You know, you condemn parents as domestic terrorists because they're concerned about what's happening with their kids inside the schools and they want to go to a school board meeting and challenge the people in the form that we're told we're supposed to use to address these issues.

01:40:36.000 You go there to address them and suddenly, you know, you've got the attorney general that's looking and the FBI is looking at you as a as a domestic terrorist? Are you kidding me? And if you

01:40:46.000 think that this is just happening, you know, in the United States, it's not. This is happening

01:40:51.000 in other parts of the world. So again, what do you have? Same policy, same tactics, same people

01:40:57.000 driving it. And what is it? What is the number one control mechanism that they want to use

01:41:03.000 to stop you from speaking out?

01:41:05.000 Well, it's intimidation, right?

01:41:07.000 Intimidation and fear.

01:41:09.000 So if that doesn't work, they're going to threaten you with legal action.

01:41:13.000 And if that doesn't work, I mean, they're definitely going to censor you.

01:41:16.000 We know that that's been happening in the U.S., but what's happening now in the U.K.

01:41:20.000 is you're actually seeing people being arrested for things that they are posting.

01:41:27.000 Or reposting, right?

01:41:28.000 If you retweet something, you can be arrested in the United Kingdom.

01:41:32.000 And what's so striking about what public officials in the UK have been saying is that they're absolutely certain you're going to be convicted.

01:41:41.000 So I don't know what happened to innocent until proven guilty.

01:41:44.000 They're absolutely certain you're going to get jail time.

01:41:46.000 So they're predetermining what the judges and, you know, what the courts are going to rule in these cases.

01:41:52.000 And they're threatening travel bans.

01:41:55.000 OK, so they're going to restrict your freedom of movement now.

01:41:58.000 I mean, does this sound like a democratically elected government in in the Western world?

01:42:05.000 No, it doesn't.

01:42:06.000 It sounds like something that I would have expected to see in Saddam Hussein's Iraq when I was a reporter for CBS News and I was on the ground in Baghdad during the Saddam regime.

01:42:18.000 I mean, are we are we reaching the point where you're going to have a government minder follow you around to do your reporting?

01:42:18.000 Right.

01:42:25.000 I mean, am I going to be a target?

01:42:27.000 Am I going on some list?

01:42:28.000 Wait a minute, I'm probably on a list already.

01:42:30.000 Actually, I know I'm on a list already because I dared to speak at a Moms4Liberty event, right?

01:42:34.000 To speak up for the type of pornography that they're putting in our schools.

01:42:40.000 One of the most disturbing things about this is that they want you to believe that if you listen to any of these people, if you take any of this information, if you share any of this information, if you ask questions about what is happening that is outside of the official government narrative, that you are somehow committing a crime.

01:43:00.000 And what is that designed to do?

01:43:01.000 Well, people instinctively pull back when that happens.

01:43:06.000 They want to protect themselves.

01:43:08.000 We know this, right?

01:43:09.000 It's a natural instinct that we all have.

01:43:12.000 And so what do we do?

01:43:14.000 We self-censor.

01:43:15.000 And isn't that great?

01:43:16.000 Because you just removed yourself from the information battlefield.

01:43:20.000 And now they don't have to censor you because you're doing it yourself.

01:43:23.000 And as a journalist, I can tell you, so I've been a journalist for more than 35 years.

01:43:29.000 And I spent around 16 years as a correspondent for 60 Minutes and the chief foreign correspondent for CBS News, chief foreign affairs correspondent.

01:43:38.000 And what did I, what did I see around me at that time?

01:43:42.000 It wasn't so much that there was, you know, a little guy sitting there, Dr. Evil, telling you do this and don't do that.

01:43:50.000 It was that people stayed away from stories that were going to cost them their credibility or their career.

01:43:56.000 It just wasn't worth it.

01:43:58.000 Why would you bother?

01:43:59.000 There's so many stories to tell out there.

01:43:59.000 Right?

01:44:01.000 So many things happening.

01:44:03.000 Why would you bother?

01:44:04.000 Unfortunately, what has happened since then is we've moved from that into a time where

01:44:10.000 there is very clearly a narrative on almost every subject out there that you're expected

01:44:17.000 to follow.

01:44:19.000 And it doesn't seem to matter anymore what the truth is.

01:44:22.000 Accountability, forget about it.

01:44:24.000 You can, not only will you not be held accountable, but you will be punished if you don't fall

01:44:31.000 in line, right?

01:44:32.000 So what is that effectively do to our children and to young people?

01:44:38.000 Because today what we're talking about the thing, I mean, you know, I'm old.

01:44:42.000 I'm getting on there.

01:44:43.000 I'm 53 years old.

01:44:45.000 Okay, I'm in the second half of my life.

01:44:47.000 So I don't really matter anymore.

01:44:49.000 I've been all over the world.

01:44:50.000 I've done, you know, incredible things.

01:44:52.000 I've met everyone from royalty, you know, to famous people in every Discipline that you can imagine.

01:45:00.000 Okay, so what do I matter?

01:45:01.000 I don't care.

01:45:02.000 But I don't matter.

01:45:04.000 My children matter.

01:45:05.000 And your children matter.

01:45:07.000 And now we're being demonized for caring about our children.

01:45:10.000 We're told you gotta care about people coming across the border, but don't pay attention to all those unaccompanied minors that are unaccounted for.

01:45:19.000 You know, or we know that from whistleblowers working for the federal government that they've documented two, three, four hundred, five hundred, six hundred kids going to the same address in Houston, Texas, for example.

01:45:32.000 One of many places where this is happening.

01:45:33.000 Don't pay attention to that.

01:45:35.000 Just pay attention to me.

01:45:37.000 Right?

01:45:38.000 Just stick to the narrative.

01:45:39.000 And if you don't, we're going to punish you.

01:45:41.000 So what is our message to our kids?

01:45:43.000 Well, if you want to get into college, Don't tell people what you really think.

01:45:49.000 Don't tell anyone you voted, you know, if you could vote you'd vote for Donald Trump, or you don't believe in abortion, or you believe in God.

01:45:56.000 Don't say that.

01:45:57.000 Don't admit that, right?

01:45:59.000 Because you're going to be punished for that.

01:46:01.000 If you're honest, and you stand up for who you are and what you believe in, you will be punished.

01:46:06.000 You will not be rewarded.

01:46:07.000 And so we tell them to hide, and we tell them to lie to themselves, and we tell them to lie to the people around them.

01:46:14.000 That's effectively what they're doing.

01:46:15.000 They gotta do it all through college, and then they gotta do it to get a job.

01:46:19.000 Well, you know what?

01:46:20.000 That's not what Alex Jones and InfoWars stands for.

01:46:24.000 That's not what I stand for.

01:46:26.000 I stand for freedom, for press freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

01:46:31.000 I stand for everything that is represented in the Constitution of the United States and for the Constitutional Republic that we live in today.

01:46:41.000 And I don't care if they come for me.

01:46:44.000 I think Alex has demonstrated he doesn't care either.

01:46:47.000 And thank goodness we're not the only ones, right?

01:46:49.000 We're not the only ones at the Alex Jones Show.

01:46:52.000 You saw that young man in Great Britain and there are many others.

01:46:55.000 Tucker Carlson is one of them.

01:46:57.000 Extraordinary.

01:46:57.000 Hey, one of them is coming up right here at InfoWars.

01:47:00.000 That's Chad Geyser.

01:47:01.000 He doesn't care either.

01:47:02.000 It doesn't matter how much you target him.

01:47:04.000 He's not going to be quiet.

01:47:06.000 And so I just want to say this has been a lot of fun for me.

01:47:08.000 I don't normally do this.

01:47:09.000 You know, I kind of like to be the long form investigative storyteller.

01:47:14.000 That's, you know, I'm just a journalist.

01:47:16.000 That's all I am.

01:47:17.000 But Um, but I kind of like being Alex Jones just for a moment.

01:47:21.000 Just for, you know, for a few hours on one day.

01:47:24.000 And I hope that it's been, um, it's been entertaining and interesting.

01:47:28.000 I hope you learned something, because that's kind of, you know, that's kind of the part of the job we're supposed to do.

01:47:33.000 And I would ask you to join me in welcoming to the show, after the break, is going to be Chad Geyser, taking over the mantle.

01:47:41.000 I have a lot of respect for him.

01:47:43.000 I have known him for a number of years as well.

01:47:46.000 And I'm pretty sure he's going to do a better job than I have.

01:47:48.000 So I just want to say thank you so much for joining us.

01:47:51.000 Don't worry.

01:47:52.000 Don't panic.

01:47:53.000 This is not a permanent change.

01:47:55.000 Alex is going to be back.

01:47:56.000 And I know he's doing some special reports this weekend because that man is a machine.

01:48:01.000 Boy, you can't stop him.

01:48:03.000 So thank you so much for joining us.

01:48:05.000 I'm Laura Logan filling in for Alex Jones on this Friday, the 9th of August, 2024.

01:48:11.000 Alex Jones here with a call of action, a call to action for all the patriots out there watching or listening to this transmission.

01:48:20.000 We can't fight the globalists without your support.

01:48:22.000 And I can't think of an organization or group out there other than President Trump that has had more of an effect against the New World Order than this operation.

01:48:29.000 And that's because of the grace of God and your support and our intrepid crew.

01:48:33.000 And I'm asking you now at a critical time, going into this election, when the enemy is trying to shut everybody down and put everybody in prison, To double down and support the broadcast more than ever, to share the articles, the videos, the links, and to get the products at InfoWarsTore.com.

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01:49:31.000 Uh, to the folks, despite the fact we already sold out of half of these in just a month.

01:49:36.000 Well, now that I'm back in control of the company, and now that InfoWars itself is not in bankruptcy, I am able to offer these again, and this will help keep us on air.

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01:50:31.000 Again, we sold out of half of these a couple years ago.

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01:50:37.000 Now that I'm back in control, they shipped them back into our warehouse, and the other half are available right now.

01:50:43.000 I would imagine they'll sell out in a month or so.

01:50:45.000 We've only got a few thousand of these left, and I cannot fund this operation without you doing this.

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01:50:55.000 That's not what this is.

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01:50:57.000 This is like, on NPR, that still gets taxpayer money, they'll sell a coffee mug that costs them $5, or a baseball cap that costs them $10, and you make a $100 donation, and you get that as a memento that you supported communism and the New World Order.

01:51:11.000 I know you don't want to do that.

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01:52:05.000 There are of course those who do not want us to speak.

01:52:14.000 How did this happen?

01:52:16.000 Who's to blame?

01:52:18.000 Well, certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable.

01:52:22.000 But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

01:52:29.000 I know why you did it.

01:52:31.000 I know you were afraid.

01:52:32.000 Who wouldn't be?

01:52:34.000 War?

01:52:35.000 Disease?

01:52:35.000 Terror?

01:52:37.000 There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rock you of your common sense.

01:52:43.000 Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now High Chancellor, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.

01:52:52.000 But if you see what I see, If you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, together we shall give them a 5th of November that shall never, ever be forgotten.

01:53:05.000 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next.

01:53:11.000 If I were the devil, if I were the prince of deception, I'd want to shroud the world in unyielding darkness.

01:53:19.000 I'd seize control over the lands and masses, but I wouldn't be satisfied until I had quashed the boldest voice of truth, InfoWars.

01:53:27.000 So I'd work meticulously to control the world.

01:53:30.000 I'd target platforms like InfoWars first.

01:53:33.000 I'd initiate a campaign of silence.

01:53:35.000 With the subtlety of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve, believe only what you're told.

01:53:42.000 To the young I would whisper, InfoWars is a fake news conspiracy theory network.

01:53:48.000 I would convince them that man needs no alternate perspectives, no dissenting voices, no questions against the status quo.

01:53:55.000 I would assure them that InfoWars is false, and what's approved is true, and the old I would teach to say after me, our father which art in censorship.

01:54:05.000 If I were the devil, I'd soon have people at war with InfoWars, platforms at war with free speech, and nations at war with freedom of thought, until each in its turn was uniform.

01:54:17.000 If I were the devil, I would undermine platforms like InfoWars from being a refuge for the Inquisitive until before you knew it, you'd have suppression and censorship at every door.

01:54:29.000 Soon, I'd have unity and misinformation.

01:54:32.000 I'd have influential figures promoting a single narrative.

01:54:35.000 Soon, I could evict info wars from social media, then from search engines, and then from the homes of patriots.

01:54:43.000 I would lure society into believing only one perspective, dismissing info wars as falsehood.

01:54:48.000 And what do you bet I could get whole states to promote uniformity as progress?

01:54:53.000 I would convince the young that independent platforms are outdated, that compliance is more comfortable, that what you see in the mainstream media is the only perspective.

01:55:03.000 In other words, if I were the devil, I wouldn't want you to visit InfoWars.com forward slash show today.

01:55:11.000 We don't make this stuff up.

01:55:13.000 Believe me, I wish we were.

01:55:14.000 Believe me.

01:55:15.000 Believe me!

01:55:16.000 Believe it!

01:55:17.000 But when I get this info, I'm gonna tell you, no matter what happens, you can be guaranteed of that!

01:55:23.000 No matter what happens, I will go 100%, period!

01:55:27.000 And that's it!

01:55:28.000 Excuse me.

01:55:29.000 The reason I started yelling, folks, is this is life and death stuff, okay?

01:55:33.000 And my adrenaline just goes crazy, because at a subconscious level, I realize this is combat, ladies and gentlemen.

01:55:39.000 This is, this is, this is not a joke, this is not a game.

01:55:42.000 It's not good to serve evil.

01:55:45.000 All these globalists look like reanimated corpses, and they all just get off on destruction and power, and their empire's collapsing, sucking America down with it, and they're not gonna let it collapse without starting World War III!

01:55:58.000 That's what all this is about!

01:56:00.000 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next.

01:56:07.000 Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and share the link today.

01:56:11.000 And now, the man who won't be silenced.

01:56:14.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show!

01:56:17.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host for the next two hours.

01:56:21.000 We've got outstanding news to cover, amazing clips to share, and we have an outstanding guest as well.

01:56:27.000 Kirk Elliott is going to be joining us in about 30 minutes, for 30 minutes, so make sure you stay tuned and make sure you visit InfoWarsStore.com.

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01:57:00.000 Stay tuned for more on the other side.

01:57:02.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host for the next two hours.

01:57:05.000 Alex Jones will be back in studio perhaps later today, but on the air for sure tomorrow and Sunday.

01:57:12.000 He is loaded for bear and ready to awaken all patriots with a semblance of America in their hearts so that we can take back this country on November 5th.

01:57:22.000 Now we've seen this campaign really ramp up over the course of the last several days.

01:57:26.000 This week has been a wild ride.

01:57:28.000 And we are in the midst of the honeymoon phase for Kamala Harris.

01:57:33.000 She made the decision to choose Tim Walz as her running mate instead of Josh Shapiro.

01:57:41.000 And both of these candidates were really bad.

01:57:43.000 They were terrible options.

01:57:45.000 But she seems to have chosen the less formidable opponent.

01:57:50.000 For the Trump ticket in Walton.

01:57:52.000 We're going to get into some of these reasons.

01:57:53.000 Obviously this stolen Valor thing is a major factor.

01:57:57.000 We have clips going all the way back to 2009 complaining about his stolen Valor claims.

01:58:05.000 And this has been a problem for him his entire career.

01:58:08.000 So it's not really a surprise that we see from the left this disingenuous behavior.

01:58:15.000 We know that Kamala has been misleading the public as to her racial background.

01:58:19.000 She's traveling all over the country and changing her accent depending on which audience she's speaking to.

01:58:25.000 We have clips of her acting like she's from the hood when she speaks to a certain socioeconomic demographic.

01:58:33.000 And we have clips of her acting completely differently in front of other audiences while we have Tim Waltz going around and saying that he believes that fourth graders who are suffering from gender dysphoria should be totally given the care of the state in terms of facilitating their transition.

01:58:50.000 All while he claims that he used weapons of war in war.

01:58:54.000 This all in the context of the DOJ really ramping up its case against Hunter Biden.

01:59:00.000 So the Biden thing is falling apart.

01:59:02.000 Kamala is making a fool of herself.

01:59:04.000 She's got to have celebrities perform at her rallies in order for anyone to attend.

01:59:08.000 And then she brags about the audience size post facto, even though the audience is not there to see her whatsoever.

01:59:14.000 And then Tim Walz is bumbling around like a fool.

01:59:19.000 Basically ignoring any questions or evidence of his stolen valor claims.

01:59:26.000 And the evidence is overwhelming.

01:59:27.000 This is not speculation.

01:59:28.000 This is not a cheap shot.

01:59:30.000 This is not something that's just said about an opponent that's not really true that you let ride.

01:59:36.000 This man claimed that he fought in war using weapons of war when he never did.

01:59:41.000 And now he's running to be the Vice President of the United States.

01:59:45.000 But my concern is The disparity between the activity I see among the Harris campaign and the Trump campaign.

01:59:54.000 Obviously, I'm voting for Donald Trump.

01:59:55.000 Obviously, this has been one of the most inspirational election seasons in the history of the United States.

02:00:00.000 What with Trump taking a bullet for our republic, surviving, standing up and saying, fight, fight, fight.

02:00:08.000 And Trump's outstanding performance in the debate on June 27th, which annihilated Joe Biden.

02:00:12.000 I mean, if he wins, if Trump wins on November 5th, I think he'll be the first president

02:00:17.000 in the history of the United States who successfully beat two candidates

02:00:22.000 from the opposing party in the same race.

02:00:24.000 He beat Joe Biden to the point where he had to quit because victory just wasn't there.

02:00:29.000 We've got Nancy Pelosi admitting that she is the one who pressured Joe out of the race.

02:00:34.000 And then now he's gonna beat Kamala Harris, I hope, I pray to God.

02:00:38.000 And so he'll have successfully defeated two Democratic primary candidates

02:00:43.000 who both had enough delegates to be the candidate for the president of the United States

02:00:47.000 for the Democratic Party in a single campaign.

02:00:50.000 This is like a two-on-one rigged situation here.

02:00:53.000 I actually wanna show you this clip of Nancy Pelosi.

02:00:55.000 This is clip number 31 and it reminds me of this clip that came out a couple of weeks ago where she admitted that she took full responsibility for the failure that was January 6th.

02:01:06.000 She owned up to the fact that she failed and did not have enough security at that event.

02:01:11.000 Now she seems to be committing the same error where on video she's basically admitting that she was responsible for yet another coup, another false flag, another operation that totally undermines the integrity of any democratic process in our elections here in the United States.

02:01:27.000 This is clip number 31.

02:01:30.000 I love him so much, I think he's been really a fantastic President of the United States.

02:01:36.000 So I really wanted him to make a decision of a better campaign.

02:01:42.000 Because they were not facing the fact of what was happening.

02:01:45.000 Just a little background, I've never been that impressed with his political operation.

02:01:50.000 Biden's operation.

02:01:51.000 Yeah, I'm not.

02:01:52.000 I mean, I just haven't been.

02:01:54.000 They won the White House, bravo.

02:01:59.000 So my concern was, this ain't happening.

02:02:04.000 And we have to make a decision for this to happen.

02:02:08.000 And the president has to make the decision for that to happen.

02:02:12.000 Let me just say, I won't say necessarily I knew what I was doing at that time.

02:02:17.000 I knew what I was doing in the whole thing, not just that show.

02:02:22.000 And what was that?

02:02:23.000 That Donald Trump would never set foot in the White House again.

02:02:28.000 There you go.

02:02:28.000 So all principles, all values can go out the window if it means defeating Donald Trump.

02:02:34.000 And what's really interesting about those comments right there is not only does it show that she's willing to totally undermine the integrity of all of our elections in order to ensure that Donald Trump never has power in the White House again, but it also implies to me that she would be willing to even take his life.

02:02:48.000 And it seems like the rest of the world has totally forgotten That there was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump just weeks ago.

02:03:00.000 It seems like they've totally forgotten, despite the fact that there's new footage every week.

02:03:05.000 New witnesses every week, new testimonies every week.

02:03:09.000 Despite the fact that it keeps coming up, everyone seems to have forgotten the fact that there was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

02:03:15.000 And I'm not just trying to remind everyone over and over again until November 5th of how brave he was and how inspirational it was, but I'm trying to emphasize how obvious it is that this was a deep state operation to take Donald Trump's life.

02:03:28.000 I think it was Joe Biden's Hail Mary.

02:03:30.000 I think he thought, all right, they won't try to push me out as the candidate.

02:03:33.000 They won't try to 25th amendment me as the candidate if Donald Trump dies.

02:03:38.000 If he died, then I wouldn't have to quit being the president.

02:03:41.000 Then I wouldn't have to withdraw from this race because victory would then be ensured.

02:03:45.000 And I think that he behaved like a Clinton or an Obama and he just saw to it that this assassination attempt was going to happen.

02:03:53.000 I think the deep state was behind it.

02:03:54.000 I think the leftist regime was behind it.

02:03:57.000 And yes, maybe it is the case that this shooter was a lone wolf, but lone wolves are the status quo for the deep state in terms of actually seeing to it that a political opponent is assassinated or killed.

02:04:10.000 So it seems to me that this person was used by the political class to assassinate Donald Trump.

02:04:19.000 And everybody is forgetting about it.

02:04:21.000 I mean, I'm even hearing rumors that the Waltz campaign and staffers are joking about it and bragging about how this is like a forgotten issue.

02:04:31.000 And I'm concerned that by the time November 5th comes around, people are going to forget that Donald Trump is the leading candidate.

02:04:38.000 And for that reason, there was an attempt on his life.

02:04:41.000 I mean, it's like a no brainer that if there's an assassination attempt on a candidate who's leading in the polls, that is the hero of the story.

02:04:48.000 That is the person that you're supposed to vote for.

02:04:50.000 But we're seeing a lot more activity from the Harris campaign than from the Trump campaign.

02:04:54.000 And I'm just praying that after this conversation that Donald Trump has with Elon Musk on Monday evening, Donald Trump will return to X and be active because this is, the stakes are so high.

02:05:07.000 He needs to use all of the tools at his disposal in order to defeat this leftist regime.

02:05:12.000 And speaking of leftist regime, we have clip after clip after clip just proving how much of a leftist Kamala Harris really is.

02:05:23.000 How much of a collectivist, Marxist, frankly, communist she really is.

02:05:30.000 And let's just start With clip number six here of Kamala talking about fair outcomes in a very hyperbolic way.

02:05:37.000 Clip six.

02:05:39.000 Balance and then the outcome will be fair.

02:05:44.000 And isn't that what we're talking about in this here election?

02:05:49.000 We're saying we just want fairness.

02:05:52.000 We want dignity for all people.

02:05:55.000 We want to recognize the right all people have to freedom and liberty, to make choices, especially those that are about heart and home, and not have their government telling them what to do.

02:06:12.000 Our campaign is about saying we trust the people.

02:06:16.000 We see the people, we know the people.

02:06:18.000 You know one of the things I love about our country?

02:06:22.000 We are a nation of people who believe in those ideals that were foundational to what made us so special as a nation.

02:06:34.000 We believe in those ideals.

02:06:37.000 And the sisters and brothers of labor have always fought for those ideals.

02:06:42.000 Always fought for those ideals.

02:06:44.000 And we know we are a work in progress.

02:06:46.000 We haven't yet quite reached all of those ideals, but we will die trying because we

02:06:52.000 love our country and we believe in who we are.

02:07:01.000 And that's what our campaign is about.

02:07:03.000 We love our country.

02:07:06.000 We believe in our country.

02:07:09.000 We believe in each other.

02:07:11.000 We believe in the collective.

02:07:14.000 We're not falling for these folks who are trying to divide us, trying to separate us, trying to pull us apart.

02:07:23.000 That's not where the strength lies.

02:07:29.000 And there is that.

02:07:34.000 And so I say to all the members of UAW and Sean Fain as the first who I talked to about this, I am so deeply honored as a lifelong supporter of union labor for Tim and I to have the endorsement of UAW.

02:07:49.000 Oh my gosh.

02:07:52.000 She's so deeply honored.

02:07:53.000 That's like somebody breaking into your house, stealing your TV and saying that they feel honored to have such a nice TV.

02:08:00.000 She has stolen this election, not a single vote for her from Democratic voters in the primary.

02:08:09.000 She saw to it that the President of the United States was blackmailed specifically by Nancy Pelosi, who just admitted it on the clip that we showed you.

02:08:17.000 Blackmailed into withdrawing from the race so that he wouldn't suffer the humiliation of being brought to justice via the 25th Amendment, because he knew he couldn't pass any cognitive tests.

02:08:27.000 He knew that if there was a 25th Amendment approach and there was an investigation and they really got to the bottom of what was going on, it would become apparent that he was suffering from cognitive decline, dementia, in a very real way, since 2019 at least.

02:08:40.000 So she has blackmailed her way into this position.

02:08:44.000 Without a single vote and she claims to love fairness and democracy when everything that she does is absolutely antithetical to both of those principles, those institutions, those notions?

02:08:58.000 This woman is absolutely insane, and not only is she wretched and evil, but she's totally unlikable in every way.

02:09:06.000 I mean, Harry Sisson and others were bragging in clip 12 here about how Kamala Harris did such a great job handling this heckler, when she really just came off as a Karen, first of all, in the clip, and what she said didn't even make sense.

02:09:21.000 Let's watch.

02:09:23.000 He intends to surrender our fight against the climate crisis, and he intends to end the Affordable Care Act.

02:09:31.000 You know what?

02:09:32.000 If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that, otherwise I'm speaking.

02:09:40.000 How is that a comeback?

02:09:43.000 If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that, otherwise I'm speaking.

02:09:46.000 Well, obviously that person wants Donald Trump to win, whatever he said.

02:09:50.000 And she's gonna give him the stink eye?

02:09:56.000 Unbelievable.

02:09:57.000 She's so tough.

02:09:59.000 She's dead serious.

02:10:01.000 Look how stoic she is.

02:10:03.000 And not only is it obvious that she's abundantly unlikeable and evil and corrupt and unworthy

02:10:20.000 and unqualified and incompetent, all the things that a president shouldn't be, she manifests.

02:10:23.000 She embodies herself.

02:10:26.000 But we have her running mate who is obviously guilty of stolen valor in a number of different ways on a number of different occasions.

02:10:33.000 We're going to show clip 14 here.

02:10:34.000 This is Tim Waltz saying that he used weapons of war in war.

02:10:40.000 Just simply brazenly false.

02:10:42.000 Clip number 14.

02:10:46.000 Hope woke up like many of you did five weeks ago and said, Dad, you're the only person I know who's in elected office.

02:10:51.000 You need to stop what's happening with this.

02:10:53.000 I'll take my kick in the butt for the NRA.

02:10:54.000 I spent 25 years in the Army, and I hunt.

02:10:57.000 And I gave the money back, and I'll tell you what I have been doing.

02:10:59.000 I've been voting for common sense legislation that protects the Second Amendment, but we can do background checks.

02:11:04.000 We can do CDC research.

02:11:05.000 We can make sure we don't have reciprocal carry among states, and we can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons were at.

02:11:13.000 Now, you know who actually was deployed in the war?

02:11:15.000 J.D.

02:11:15.000 Vance.

02:11:16.000 We're going to show you in clip 13.

02:11:17.000 This is J.D.

02:11:18.000 Vance responding to Tim Walz's stolen valor, his lies about service, his obvious dodging of service, leaving the military right before it was going to be deployed.

02:11:32.000 His unit was going to be deployed into the war.

02:11:34.000 So clip number 13 here.

02:11:36.000 When the United States Marine Corps, when the United States of America asked me to go to Iraq to serve my country, I did it.

02:11:42.000 I did what they asked me to do and I did it honorably and I'm very proud of that service.

02:11:46.000 When Tim Walz was asked by his country to go to Iraq, you know what he did?

02:11:49.000 He dropped out of the army and allowed his unit to go without him, a fact that he's been criticized for aggressively by a lot of the people that he served with.

02:11:57.000 I think it's shameful.

02:11:59.000 So, not only Is the left just completely denying the fact that Tim Walz never served in combat in any way, shape or form.

02:12:09.000 And he is guilty of stolen valor here.

02:12:12.000 I mean, there's images of him wearing hats with the Green Beret symbol and stuff.

02:12:15.000 He was never a Green Beret.

02:12:17.000 But so many of these surrogates and people that are associated with the campaign seem to have no idea that J.D.

02:12:22.000 Vance was actually in the military.

02:12:24.000 This is clip number 15.

02:12:27.000 Well, here is Tim Walz, who enlisted when he was 17 years old.

02:12:32.000 He served in the National Guard for 24 years.

02:12:36.000 And I'm not aware of any military service that J.D.

02:12:38.000 Vance has ever served.

02:12:41.000 So let's just make the comparison there.

02:12:43.000 And what happened in the tragedy of the killing of George Floyd and then the unrest?

02:12:49.000 Yeah, so she's going on CNN.

02:12:51.000 She has no idea.

02:12:53.000 that JD Vance was in the Marines.

02:12:55.000 So while they totally deny the fact that JD Vance actually did serve in the military,

02:13:00.000 they ignore the fact that Tim Walz has repeatedly over the course of years been guilty of stolen

02:13:06.000 valor.

02:13:09.000 And everything about this is all staged.

02:13:11.000 She's a fake candidate.

02:13:12.000 She's not really supposed to be the candidate.

02:13:15.000 He's a fake warrior.

02:13:16.000 I mean, frankly, Donald Trump has seen more combat than Tim Walz.

02:13:22.000 I mean, Donald Trump actually got shot for this country.

02:13:25.000 Tim Waltz never went into a combat zone for it.

02:13:27.000 That's the real disparity here.

02:13:29.000 And we have example after example of how disingenuous these people are.

02:13:33.000 I mean, in clip 20 here, just look at this promo.

02:13:37.000 It's exactly like the promo video that was made between the Obamas and Kamala Harris

02:13:43.000 weeks ago when they happened to be recording an unexpected phone call where the Obamas

02:13:49.000 endorsed Kamala Harris.

02:13:50.000 And she answers, oh, hi, how are you guys doing?

02:13:52.000 Why are you calling me?

02:13:54.000 And it's all filmed.

02:13:55.000 Obviously, it was staged for the promo.

02:13:58.000 Same thing happening here when Harris calls Waltz to say that she would like him to be the vice presidential candidate on the ticket.

02:14:05.000 It's this staged thing.

02:14:06.000 There's film crews on both sides of the phone call, and they're acting like they're having this conversation for the first time.

02:14:11.000 These people are so full of shit.

02:14:12.000 It's unbelievable.

02:14:13.000 Let's run the clip.

02:14:16.000 Hi, this is Tim.

02:14:20.000 It's Kamala Harris.

02:14:21.000 Good morning, Governor.

02:14:23.000 Good morning, Madam Vice President.

02:14:25.000 Listen, I want you to do this with me.

02:14:28.000 Let's do this together.

02:14:29.000 Would you be my running mate and let's get this thing on the road?

02:14:33.000 I would be honored, Madam Vice President.

02:14:37.000 The joy that you're bringing back to the country, the enthusiasm that's out there, it would be a privilege to take this with you across the country.

02:14:44.000 Well, let me tell you, I have just the utmost respect for you.

02:14:47.000 I have really enjoyed our work together.

02:14:50.000 You understand our country.

02:14:52.000 You have dedicated yourself to our country in so many different and beautiful ways.

02:14:58.000 And we're going to do this.

02:14:59.000 We're going to win.

02:15:00.000 And we're going to unify our country and remind everyone that we are fighting for the future for everyone.

02:15:07.000 So let's get out there and get this done, OK?

02:15:09.000 Let's do it.

02:15:10.000 Do the work in front of us.

02:15:11.000 Let's win this thing.

02:15:12.000 That's right.

02:15:13.000 I'll see you soon.

02:15:13.000 All right, buddy.

02:15:14.000 Take care.

02:15:15.000 Thank you.

02:15:15.000 Okay.

02:15:16.000 And then here she is in clip 22 telling a sob story about how her career began out of

02:15:24.000 a personal passion for helping the victims of sexual assault.

02:15:29.000 This is clip number 22 here.

02:15:30.000 This is just another example of Democrats exploiting the suffering and ails of other people for the sake of their own political gain without any conscience whatsoever.

02:15:40.000 Just using it as a story to tell to garner emotional support and get votes based off of lie after lie after lie.

02:15:49.000 So Mika, when I was in high school, I learned that my best friend was being molested by her stepfather.

02:15:56.000 And when I learned about it, I said to her, you're going to have to come live with us.

02:16:03.000 I called my mother.

02:16:04.000 My mother said, of course, she has to come stay with us.

02:16:05.000 And she did.

02:16:08.000 And so at a young age, I decided I wanted to do the work that was about protecting women and children.

02:16:15.000 And I became a prosecutor and I specialized in, in particular, child sexual assault.

02:16:22.000 And the fact that after the Dobbs decision came down, that laws have been proposed and passed, that as Hadley has said, make no exceptions even for rape or incest.

02:16:35.000 Think about what these extremists are saying to a survivor of a crime of violence to their body, a survivor of a crime that is a violation of their body, and to say to that survivor, and you have no right or authority to make The audacity to come out and claim that she loves survivors of sexual assault and she supports them and fights for them, given the fact that she was the Vice President of the United States under Joe Biden, who is documented in his own daughter's diary as being a molester.

02:17:08.000 Clip after clip after clip of him smelling hair and pinching the nipples of underage girls.

02:17:13.000 It's all documented.

02:17:14.000 Even these victims have admitted it.

02:17:16.000 He's actually been accused, credibly, of sexual assault at least once.

02:17:21.000 If you count his daughter's stuff, multiple times.

02:17:26.000 And she worked for him.

02:17:27.000 She totally sold out.

02:17:28.000 And remember, she was actually the border czar.

02:17:33.000 You want to talk to me about caring about rape and incest when you've opened up our southern border and refused to do anything about it?

02:17:40.000 Frankly, you've sponsored the invasion of the United States by the worst people all over the world through our southern border to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.

02:17:49.000 Excuse me, tens of millions of people.

02:17:52.000 Hundreds of thousands of them from countries of interest committing rapes and murders.

02:17:57.000 So don't talk to me about how you feel for the victims of rape and incest when they can't get an abortion, when you have literally sponsored the rape of thousands of people in the United States because of your leftist, collectivist policies.

02:18:14.000 Give me a break.

02:18:15.000 And let's just see how genuine she is here in clip number 23.

02:18:19.000 Let's just see how personal she is with her constituents and her voters that she's trying to garner the support of.

02:18:26.000 So good to be back in Michigan.

02:18:28.000 Listen, let me tell you, I am clear, the path to the White House runs right through this state.

02:18:34.000 And listen, I am clear, the path to the White House runs right through this state.

02:18:40.000 I took on perpetrators.

02:18:42.000 Of all kinds.

02:18:44.000 I took on perpetrators of all kinds.

02:18:46.000 And had a summer job at McDonald's.

02:18:49.000 I had a summer job at McDonald's.

02:18:52.000 So hear me when I say.

02:18:54.000 So hear me Detroit when I say.

02:18:56.000 I know Donald Trump's tight.

02:19:00.000 I know Donald Trump's type.

02:19:03.000 And are we ready to fight for it?

02:19:05.000 And are we ready to fight for it?

02:19:12.000 And when we fight, Oh, it's so Focus Group canned.

02:19:18.000 It's just garbage, garbage, garbage.

02:19:20.000 Folks, we're coming up on a break.

02:19:21.000 We've got the wonderful, talented Dr. Kirk Elliott joining us for the next 30 minutes.

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02:19:30.000 After I speak to Kirk for the next 30 minutes, we're going to get right back into some of these Kamala Clips because there's just so many.

02:19:35.000 We have to get to the bottom of this if we're going to make the right decision in November.

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02:20:38.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is the Alex Jones Show.

02:20:41.000 We are joined by the esteemed Kirk Elliott.

02:20:44.000 I'm always pleased to speak with you, Kirk.

02:20:47.000 What is on your mind?

02:20:50.000 Well, what's on everybody's mind, actually, and that's all this talk about recession,

02:20:56.000 It's like, so normally when you talk about a recession, you think of the Great Depression, right?

02:21:02.000 It's like, oh, there was food lines, dust bowl, and nobody could afford anything.

02:21:06.000 This is different.

02:21:08.000 What we're seeing this time is let's define terms a little bit so recession is a slowdown in in business right mom and pop stores aren't selling anything corporate america is not selling anything because people don't have jobs or they can't afford things right so so that's where we've got this slowdown of the economy but what we have this time

02:21:30.000 That we didn't have during the Great Depression is massive amounts of inflation.

02:21:36.000 So this is called stagflation, right?

02:21:39.000 It's like stagnant economy plus inflation, and that's the worst of all possible scenarios.

02:21:45.000 That's what we had in the late 70s during the Carter years.

02:21:50.000 Which is rising prices with inflation going up, they're printing money like there's no tomorrow, higher taxes so people can't afford the higher prices, wages coming down and unemployment skyrocketing, right?

02:22:02.000 It's like, man, for a policymaker, that is the worst possible scenario to get out of ever.

02:22:09.000 It's like almost impossible.

02:22:11.000 So when we look back at how did Reagan get out of this when he became president in 1980, Well, inflation at the time was 14.3 percent.

02:22:25.000 Well, all of the viewers out there who are old enough to remember, I mean, I can remember I was in, like, junior high at the time, right?

02:22:31.000 But interest rates went to 18 percent.

02:22:34.000 If you had a 30-year mortgage back then, it was 18 percent.

02:22:39.000 So as an economist, I always have to ask, well, why?

02:22:42.000 It's like, I don't necessarily care what the number is.

02:22:44.000 It's like, why did we get there?

02:22:46.000 Well, because inflation is 14.3, if you're going to use interest rates to slow down inflation, it has to be greater than the interest rate, or the inflation rate, or else it's not going to work.

02:22:58.000 So, fast forward to today.

02:23:00.000 We've got, unofficially, inflation hovering around 15%.

02:23:05.000 So to think that the Fed when they lie about all we can lower interest rates and we're gonna we're gonna have an emergency rate reduction right now because of everything that's happening in Japan and and you know what why they're saying that is because they know that it's a catch-22 of all catch-22s.

02:23:24.000 If they raise rates when they haven't beat inflation yet It's actually going to it's just going to kill the economy because we have so much debt.

02:23:36.000 See, this is where we were different from the late 70s.

02:23:39.000 The late 70s, early 80s, we didn't have as much debt as we do now.

02:23:43.000 So what what they're wanting to do is like, OK, If we raise interest rates to slow down inflation, it's possibly going to work, but it's actually going to kill the economy.

02:23:53.000 So therefore, they're saying let's lower interest rates, get people spending, kick the can down the road even further, right?

02:24:00.000 And they're avoiding this inevitable D-Day.

02:24:03.000 But when they do that, when they lower rates, Instead of raising them to slow down inflation, they create more inflation, right?

02:24:12.000 So this is the problem that we have.

02:24:14.000 So as I look at this, there was this chart that I sent over to you.

02:24:19.000 It's ominous charts that show a really bleak outlook moving forward.

02:24:24.000 So there's four charts on here, and when you look at all of them, it paints an ugly picture.

02:24:34.000 So that top one, that's money velocity.

02:24:39.000 So money velocity is when there's no demand for the U.S.

02:24:45.000 dollar.

02:24:46.000 Like none.

02:24:47.000 That's what the velocity is.

02:24:48.000 When it's way down like it is, there is no demand for the U.S.

02:24:52.000 dollar.

02:24:53.000 And of course there's not, Chase, because the BRICS nations are now getting rid of the petrodollar, trading in their own currencies.

02:25:02.000 Nobody wants U.S.

02:25:03.000 Treasuries anymore.

02:25:04.000 Countries are dumping it like yesterday's trash.

02:25:07.000 So there's no velocity.

02:25:09.000 That means we are basically now stuck with our own Yes.

02:25:15.000 mechanism for generating revenue, which is taxes.

02:25:19.000 That's how the government makes money is they tax people because we don't have any foreign

02:25:24.000 inflow anymore.

02:25:27.000 Now, the next one shows the S&P 500.

02:25:32.000 This is a function of stimulus money, right?

02:25:35.000 So when you print money like there's no tomorrow, you're using that money to keep the markets propped up.

02:25:42.000 We've now hit this point of, all right, we're peaking.

02:25:46.000 There's no real place for it to go except down.

02:25:50.000 So when you when you analyze the markets, you have to say the stock market is a function of revenue, right?

02:25:57.000 It's like they don't care how they get the revenue, whether it's you and me and everybody watching this show spending money, that's revenue, or whether it's the government.

02:26:08.000 Buying the stocks through stimulus and injection.

02:26:11.000 That's that's revenue for companies as well.

02:26:13.000 Right.

02:26:13.000 But that's a revenue.

02:26:15.000 This is where we are.

02:26:16.000 And so when we have no more built in demand for our currency, we're toast, because now whenever we do something like this, we're going to create even more inflation.

02:26:27.000 So how can we tell the next chart?

02:26:30.000 Federal debt.

02:26:32.000 OK, this just tells us We've been printing money like there's no tomorrow.

02:26:37.000 Look at our debt, right?

02:26:39.000 And when you look at Bidenomics and his budget, you know, that they have come moving forward, what is it going to look like?

02:26:47.000 You know, a cup, $2.8 trillion of deficit.

02:26:51.000 So every time you have a deficit every single year, $2.8 trillion here, $2 trillion there, all of that added together comes to our national debt, which is now like $37 trillion.

02:27:05.000 I've seen the real-time ticker.

02:27:07.000 It's insane.

02:27:08.000 Well, it's absolutely insane.

02:27:10.000 If you go to USdebtclock.org, it's constantly going up.

02:27:15.000 But here's the wacky part about our debt.

02:27:18.000 Right, we're seeing $2.8 trillion a year, $2 trillion a year being added to it, and we're only at like $37-38 trillion, right?

02:27:26.000 But it went from 1776 until 1980 when Reagan became president.

02:27:35.000 How much national debt do you think we had then?

02:27:37.000 It wasn't even a trillion.

02:27:38.000 It was like $900 billion.

02:27:40.000 So it took over 200 years to go from $0 to $900 billion.

02:27:44.000 Now, we are adding $2.8 trillion a year.

02:27:49.000 A year.

02:27:50.000 When Obama became president, our national debt was $11 trillion.

02:27:55.000 Now we're at $30 trillion.

02:27:56.000 It's like they are spending like drunken sailors.

02:28:00.000 And this is unsustainable, which is why the rest of the world no longer wants our U.S.

02:28:05.000 Treasuries.

02:28:06.000 So therefore, what do people do?

02:28:09.000 Right.

02:28:10.000 So so you look at the last chart.

02:28:12.000 This just shows gold.

02:28:14.000 Now gold is absolutely starting to it's it's we're we're approaching all time highs right where this is why gold goes up.

02:28:24.000 It thrives on political instability uncertainty chaos change on sustainable debt inflationary pressures all of that that we're seeing now.

02:28:33.000 When I've been doing a lot of shows lately on Infowars and people are calling to say, Kirk, you've got central banks that are backing their currencies with gold and they're acquiring it and they're amassing it.

02:28:45.000 Why don't you ever talk about gold?

02:28:49.000 So the reason is central banks, they have so much money that they're dealing with.

02:28:56.000 They can't really buy silver.

02:28:58.000 Because it's too cheap.

02:28:59.000 It's like less than $30 an ounce.

02:29:01.000 There's not enough of it.

02:29:03.000 They can't actually back or quasi-back a currency with silver because it's too cheap.

02:29:09.000 And there's simply not enough of it available.

02:29:12.000 Which, so this is why they buy gold.

02:29:16.000 It's 24, $2,500 an ounce.

02:29:18.000 But here's where we, as people, can identify what's happening in the markets, the instability, the job numbers are awful, right?

02:29:31.000 I mean, this last week, the job numbers are worse than it's ever been.

02:29:34.000 And when you've got So four months in a row, declining job numbers.

02:29:40.000 Now everyone's saying recession.

02:29:42.000 Goldman Sachs says, oh, the recession propensity is going to have gone from 25% to 35% by the end of the year.

02:29:49.000 Citibank is saying the same thing.

02:29:51.000 Economists everywhere are saying, we are going into a recession.

02:29:54.000 And I'm thinking, these economists are stupid.

02:29:57.000 We already are in one, right?

02:29:59.000 Right.

02:30:00.000 It's not like we're going into one.

02:30:02.000 We've been in one since COVID.

02:30:04.000 But now, The reason why I don't allocate into gold right now is because silver is doing better, right?

02:30:14.000 And there's reason for it.

02:30:16.000 Silver will act like gold in the sense of it's a financial metal.

02:30:21.000 It thrives like a barometer on uncertainty and chaos and turbulence and everything that we're seeing.

02:30:27.000 But it's also an industrial metal.

02:30:29.000 I've heard that like 60% of the world's silver is in landfills because it's used in so many electronics.

02:30:34.000 I've heard that like 60% of the world's silver is in landfills because it's used in so many

02:30:41.000 electronics.

02:30:42.000 Yeah, I mean you can't reclaim it, right?

02:30:45.000 It's not like when when the little squeak toy that you bought it at Walmart that has a circuit board on it for nine, you know, there's silver solder points that you you can't actually go and reclaim it because there's too much toxic stuff in there.

02:30:57.000 Right?

02:30:57.000 So it just goes away.

02:30:58.000 It's not like aluminum that you recycle.

02:31:01.000 Once it's used, it's done.

02:31:03.000 So look at this article that I that I sent over to you on industrial demand.

02:31:09.000 Could consume the entire silver market by 2025.

02:31:15.000 All of it.

02:31:16.000 Just as industrial, let alone investor demand, right?

02:31:20.000 Right.

02:31:20.000 So a lot of superconductors are going to be needed for World War III, right?

02:31:23.000 So if the military industrial complexes of the world need electronics for AI and hacking and all this tech, it makes sense that there would be a ramp up in demand.

02:31:33.000 Well, and we're now in a war economy.

02:31:37.000 You know, when you look at China and Taiwan and Russia and Ukraine and Israel against everybody, right?

02:31:43.000 And it's like, this is a war economy.

02:31:46.000 Every single ICBM missile that gets shot into the air or big torpedo that we're seeing going through the ocean, they have about, on average, 11,000 ounces of silver in each one.

02:31:58.000 Wow.

02:31:59.000 In each one.

02:32:00.000 Right.

02:32:00.000 So this becomes massive.

02:32:02.000 So what is I want to say tell everybody because I get calls constantly like so many that why don't you go into gold?

02:32:10.000 Well, look at what's industrial demand for silver.

02:32:14.000 What's it used for?

02:32:16.000 Technological advancements and high tech industries.

02:32:20.000 It's skyrocketing.

02:32:22.000 Solar panels, automotive, major consumers of silver, solar power usage.

02:32:28.000 Right.

02:32:28.000 It's like you look at all the green agenda and everything that they do.

02:32:31.000 Electric vehicles.

02:32:33.000 OK, that uses silver.

02:32:34.000 So here's where we can actually say, OK, you environmentalists, right, that you want all this solar and all this electric.

02:32:41.000 It's like we might not agree with their policies nor like them or think that they're crazy.

02:32:46.000 Right.

02:32:46.000 But but when we look at what they need, we can take advantage of it.

02:32:52.000 Right.

02:32:52.000 So rather than some of these trends taking advantage of us, we just identify and an agenda and it's like, what do they need for their

02:33:01.000 agenda?

02:33:02.000 They need silver.

02:33:03.000 So if we invest in what they need, we can sell it to them at really,

02:33:05.000 really high prices when it runs out.

02:33:08.000 It's like, OK, we're going to take advantage of it.

02:33:10.000 But military use is a key factor.

02:33:13.000 Defense technology, aerospace application.

02:33:16.000 And we even saw this week as the stock market crashed, we saw that a lot of

02:33:19.000 the military industrial complex businesses like Lockheed did very well

02:33:22.000 relative to the other other major companies. Correct.

02:33:26.000 They do, because this is because we're in a wartime economy.

02:33:29.000 Investing is a matter of perception as much as it is reality, right?

02:33:35.000 So if people identify in their mind, it's like, ooh, this thing is going to be good in the future.

02:33:41.000 It doesn't matter if it It happens to be real or not.

02:33:44.000 It's perception.

02:33:45.000 Perception is reality.

02:33:47.000 And when we've got wars and rumors of wars and inflation and all this, people are running scared, and this fear is consuming them, right?

02:33:55.000 So therefore, in a war economy, silver is going to go through the roof.

02:33:59.000 Now, here's the problem with all the demand for silver.

02:34:03.000 There's not enough of it, right?

02:34:04.000 So we've got mining challenges.

02:34:07.000 We've got declining output from silver mines because all the easy silver has been found and taken out already.

02:34:15.000 So now you have to go deeper into the earth.

02:34:17.000 You have to build roads and build bridges and get the infrastructure developed.

02:34:22.000 And that's exploration difficulties.

02:34:24.000 I mean, you've got massive problems of declining output, and the COMEX depositories globally are simply running out.

02:34:34.000 They're running out!

02:34:35.000 So the supply is plummeting while the demand is skyrocketing, and it's a no-brainer from an investment standpoint.

02:34:42.000 Absolute no brainer, right?

02:34:44.000 Because this is our goal as a wise and prudent investor.

02:34:47.000 Buy low, sell high.

02:34:50.000 Right?

02:34:50.000 When we can go into something where the supply is not there, the demand is through the roof, the prices are just going to skyrocket.

02:34:57.000 Because ultimately, we do run out.

02:35:00.000 Right.

02:35:00.000 And when we run out, well, what is Sony and Samsung and Tesla going to do?

02:35:05.000 They're going to say, OK, well, we'll offer whatever price necessary for us to get the silver so we can have a finished product.

02:35:12.000 Right.

02:35:12.000 So this is where when you own what they need and the prices go from 30 to 50 to 80 dollars an ounce, we get to benefit from it now.

02:35:21.000 In the last so so you've got that going on.

02:35:24.000 But you've also got now the fundamental reasons why gold and silver both go up and why normal asset categories that people are used to equities debt you know just money in the bank right.

02:35:37.000 Those are coming down.

02:35:39.000 So the fundamental forces that drive gold and silver up also cause those other equity and debt markets to come down.

02:35:46.000 Now, we've talked about recession, right?

02:35:48.000 It's more of a stagflation, inflationary recession, not just a normal recession like the Great Depression, right?

02:35:56.000 But if you look at some of the stats behind what we're going into, Listen, this is really concerning.

02:36:05.000 So, the U.S.

02:36:07.000 unemployment rate has risen for four consecutive months.

02:36:11.000 Four.

02:36:12.000 That's the longest streak since 2008.

02:36:13.000 Wow.

02:36:16.000 So, over the last 75 years, and I'm telling everybody this to give them confidence that, yeah, the economy might stink, the foundations around us are eroding, the pillars are collapsing, but there's an opportunity to be had here.

02:36:31.000 Over the last 75 years, every single time that unemployment rose for four consecutive months, the U.S.

02:36:39.000 economy entered into a recession.

02:36:41.000 Right, so on InfoWars, when I'm talking to you, a couple of shows we've done with you and with Alex, we keep talking about this.

02:36:50.000 We're ahead of the curve, because now mainstream media is finally saying, we're going into a recession.

02:36:56.000 We've been telling everybody for nine months, we're in a recession.

02:36:59.000 So now, perception is becoming reality.

02:37:03.000 And things are starting to accelerate.

02:37:05.000 So the jobless rate has surged from 3.8% in March to 4.3% in July.

02:37:11.000 That's the highest level since October of 2021, right after COVID.

02:37:17.000 And U.S.

02:37:17.000 hires rate has declined to 3.4 percent, lowest level since 2020 in the height of COVID.

02:37:27.000 Right.

02:37:27.000 So what does this tell us?

02:37:29.000 U.S.

02:37:29.000 labor market is contracting.

02:37:31.000 When people aren't working, they're not spending.

02:37:34.000 When people aren't spending, revenues are coming down.

02:37:38.000 And this is where I think we're at the beginning.

02:37:42.000 Right.

02:37:42.000 a collapse in the markets as we know it. And who's going to capitalize on that? China, Putin,

02:37:50.000 the BRICS nations. Right. It's a great excuse to subvert the dollars, the global reserve currency.

02:37:56.000 And it makes their job easier.

02:38:00.000 So you've got Putin out there spouting off saying, we're going to de-dollarize the world and we're going to win.

02:38:05.000 The BRICS nations are going to be the new reserve currency.

02:38:08.000 But they still had this problem.

02:38:09.000 And that's the U.S.

02:38:10.000 dollar was still the reserve currency.

02:38:13.000 Right.

02:38:13.000 But but now you've got Biden, who's absolutely destroying the dollar.

02:38:19.000 And Putin's got to be thinking, this is pretty sick.

02:38:22.000 This is a cool deal.

02:38:24.000 We're trying to destroy the dollar and we're getting a lot of help from Biden.

02:38:27.000 We don't have to work as hard.

02:38:29.000 And so the BRICS nation, there's this pendulum shifting moment that's happening right underneath our nose, Chase, right underneath our nose, where all of these things There's everything that we've known since 1944 when we became the world's reserve currency are now changing.

02:38:49.000 Yeah.

02:38:50.000 And it's hard to change that.

02:38:52.000 Right.

02:38:52.000 It's going to be very, very difficult because once it's gone, we're not getting it back.

02:38:58.000 And I think it already is gone.

02:39:00.000 Right.

02:39:00.000 So let's just say Trump were to come into office tomorrow.

02:39:04.000 Start turning things around.

02:39:06.000 Growing the economy.

02:39:08.000 Increasing our revenue as a nation.

02:39:10.000 Increasing wages.

02:39:12.000 Job numbers are going through the roof because people are working.

02:39:15.000 Unemployment is coming down.

02:39:18.000 I mean, even with that, that's going to be very prosperous for America again, just like it was once before.

02:39:26.000 But is he going to get the reserve currency status back?

02:39:29.000 I kind of doubt it.

02:39:30.000 Because once it's gone, it's gone.

02:39:33.000 What are you going to do?

02:39:34.000 Go to China and Russia and say, hey, you know that That reserve currency that we used to have and then Biden destroyed it.

02:39:41.000 We want it back.

02:39:42.000 It's like they're not giving back because almost 70% of the world's population now in that trading block, we are not getting it back.

02:39:54.000 I'm not saying that America is not going to be strong again.

02:39:58.000 We just have to do it within reason.

02:40:00.000 We have to control our spending.

02:40:02.000 Trump is a great person to do that because he's brilliant at growing the economy.

02:40:07.000 But the days of the U.S.

02:40:10.000 dollar being the world's reserve currency are numbered or done already.

02:40:15.000 Wow.

02:40:15.000 So what does America look like as a successful nation?

02:40:22.000 In the future, not having the global reserve currency status.

02:40:27.000 So it just means that when, OK, and you need you need a smart president like Trump.

02:40:33.000 Obviously, we won't be able to sanction Iran and China and Russia in the same way because that was kind of tethered to that.

02:40:38.000 Right.

02:40:39.000 Yeah, so I think what it looks like is one of the best things that Trump is saying to actually fix the economy is get rid of the personal income tax and replace it with tariffs on foreign goods.

02:40:51.000 Yeah.

02:40:53.000 That's what the founding fathers envisioned for our country, which means that's going to make all foreign goods more expensive because there's a tax on it.

02:41:01.000 And that's going to force people to want to buy American, which means when jobs follow manufacturing, you've got more people working.

02:41:08.000 So that's number one.

02:41:10.000 You've got to solidify the money-making mechanism of our country.

02:41:16.000 That will do it.

02:41:18.000 Like, you and I, when we look at our budget, and let's just say we're losing, you know, so much money every single month, and you sit down at the dinner table and say, crap, talking to your wife and spouse, and say, we've got a problem.

02:41:34.000 We're losing money every single month.

02:41:37.000 And so what do you say?

02:41:39.000 It's like, we've got to cut our spending.

02:41:41.000 We've got to stop spending so much.

02:41:44.000 Politicians don't do that.

02:41:47.000 See, they look at their balance sheet and they say, we don't have a spending problem, we've got a revenue problem, so let's raise taxes because we're not going to cut our spending, which is why we have $38 trillion worth of national debt.

02:42:00.000 So, what this is going to force us to do when we don't have the reserve currency is to look at the other side of the balance sheet.

02:42:10.000 Not just when we have a problem, we need money.

02:42:11.000 We go into the printing press and we either create... So the government's gonna have to shrink.

02:42:15.000 It's just not gonna have a choice.

02:42:17.000 They're going to have to, and this is where it becomes painful for the government.

02:42:21.000 Because over 80% of all of our revenue every single year goes towards entitlements, mandatory payments, Social Security, women, infants, children programs, food stamps.

02:42:32.000 They're entitlements, right?

02:42:33.000 So if you start cutting that, you're not going to get votes.

02:42:37.000 See, this is where you start to see social and economic upheaval.

02:42:41.000 But how does it look moving forward?

02:42:44.000 Discretion on our spending.

02:42:47.000 You can't just go to the printing press without going into a hyperinflationary spiral like Venezuela, Argentina, Zimbabwe.

02:42:55.000 You have to have discretion, which means it is going to force politicians to think like families and say, we've got to cut spending.

02:43:05.000 Unless we're going to go get three or four or five jobs, like a family would do, right?

02:43:09.000 It's like, just cut spending.

02:43:11.000 That's going to be the first thing.

02:43:13.000 But when you start to do that, it is going to create a foundation for success moving forward, where our success is based on our productivity.

02:43:27.000 And everything that we do, our success is going to be based on debt like it is now, which to me isn't really success.

02:43:33.000 That's fake.

02:43:34.000 Right.

02:43:35.000 So so anyways, I think America becomes really, really strong.

02:43:39.000 The only way that you can do that, though, and I'm not saying it's going to be an easy path to get there.

02:43:44.000 It's going to be difficult.

02:43:46.000 But the only way that you can do that is with a president who understands business, who understands politics, who's not a career politician who says, hey, if I need money, I'm not just going to print it.

02:43:56.000 We need money.

02:43:57.000 We have to create a foundation for success and encourage people to work and grow and thrive.

02:44:06.000 Wow, man.

02:44:07.000 Scary times, scary times that we're entering into.

02:44:09.000 And thank you so much for coming on the show today, Kirk.

02:44:12.000 It's always an honor and pleasure to hear from you.

02:44:13.000 So wise and prudent and knowledgeable about this.

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02:44:50.000 Thank you so much for coming on the show today.

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02:46:55.000 Obviously, silver's doing way better than gold in growth, and it's way undervalued.

02:46:59.000 That's a fact.

02:47:00.000 Why, then, are the central banks mainly hoarding gold?

02:47:02.000 Well, because there's simply not enough silver.

02:47:05.000 Right?

02:47:05.000 It's like, if you've got central banks that start allocating into silver, when it's $30 an ounce and they want to have it be part of their reserves, it's like, okay, there's not enough silver in the world to do that.

02:47:17.000 Right?

02:47:18.000 So they have to do gold because it's $2,400 an ounce, not $30 an ounce.

02:47:22.000 Right?

02:47:23.000 So this is why central banks own gold.

02:47:26.000 They've got so many quadrillions of fake money, there's too much fiat to even buy the silver.

02:47:32.000 Which I would say then means silver still will always be the thing that grows the most.

02:47:37.000 So silver, historically the numbers prove out that when gold is in a bull market, which it is, we're near all-time highs, silver does better than gold.

02:47:47.000 So silver grows faster.

02:47:49.000 And there's a reason why.

02:47:51.000 Silver and gold both act as Barometers to government distrust, right?

02:47:57.000 The worse things get, the better financial metals do.

02:48:00.000 They're a flight for safety.

02:48:02.000 But what silver has that gold doesn't is it's a manufacturing metal.

02:48:06.000 It's used in industry.

02:48:07.000 So in aerospace, in defense, in electronics, in solar power, electric vehicles, all of that.

02:48:13.000 The demand for silver is through the roof, Alex, and we're just taking advantage of that.

02:48:19.000 And imagine what silver will do with Trump being president, somebody who actually grows the economy rather than having a stagnant economy.

02:48:27.000 The industrial need for silver is absolutely going to explode.

02:48:32.000 No, you're right.

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02:48:34.000 That's why they call it a silver bullet.

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02:48:39.000 now, rather.

02:48:52.000 What?

02:48:53.000 Welcome back to the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show.

02:48:58.000 I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer, Jay's analysis.

02:49:01.000 And I wanted to talk about what's happening in the UK because a lot of people think that this is government incompetence and the failure of the leaders of Britain To adequately represent and safeguard the interests of their native population, and that's certainly a factor.

02:49:21.000 But what most people are missing, which is something I covered pretty much all week on Twitter, I had a post that went viral covering a book that I mentioned many, many times, that's the Yoan Ratio book, The Milner-Fabian Conspiracy, because It's such a crucial text to know and understand what's happening in the UK because the model of what's happening in the UK is the same model for what they want to do elsewhere, particularly in the West, in the United States.

02:49:50.000 And so I want to talk about Islam today, its role in this whole system of what the global elite are rolling out, the plans that they have for Islam, what they want to see it do.

02:50:03.000 And even though Islam itself is a chess piece on the chessboard by the global elite, by Brzezinski.

02:50:11.000 He wrote the book, right?

02:50:13.000 Grand Chessboard.

02:50:15.000 If we think back to the time of the late 70s when there was the Soviet Afghanistan conflict, Brzezinski had the idea to, following the pattern of British intelligence decades before him, utilize radical Islam or extreme Islam To fight against the Soviets.

02:50:35.000 And the idea was to go into Afghanistan.

02:50:37.000 There's a famous clip of him saying to the local Afghani population, that land is yours.

02:50:45.000 God gave you that land.

02:50:47.000 And he says that that will impel them in the clip, that will impel you to take it back.

02:50:53.000 And of course, what's obvious in this clip is that for Brzezinski, God is a tool.

02:50:58.000 God is a manipulation tactic to use with These rather simple-minded backwoods Afghanistan villagers to get them to fight against the Soviets in that conflict.

02:51:12.000 And that ended up working because Brzezinski's plan was to wear down the Soviets through this conflict and to get them exhausted, to get them distracted.

02:51:22.000 And that participated in the later decline of the Soviet Union in the 1980s and its eventual collapse.

02:51:29.000 So it played a key role.

02:51:31.000 In furthering the collapse.

02:51:33.000 That's one example of the Western elite utilizing Islam as part of their strategy.

02:51:40.000 Now that doesn't mean that they believe in Islam.

02:51:43.000 So understand that from their vantage point, a lot of these worldviews are tools for conflict, tools for dialectics, tools for geopolitical strategy.

02:51:53.000 In fact, one of the most famous neocons many years ago, who studied under the arch neocon Bernard Lewis out of the UK, It was a guy named Samuel P. Huntington, and he wrote the book Flash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order.

02:52:08.000 Huntington said that the future conflict would be between Islam and the West because the worldviews are incompatible.

02:52:17.000 In other words, they knew a long time ago.

02:52:19.000 It's kind of obvious that Western Enlightenment liberalism is not compatible with Islam.

02:52:26.000 Islam has a perspective that sees all of life as underneath a kind of theocratic rulership of Allah, and so there's no areas of life that are, quote, secular.

02:52:39.000 The inheritance of American philosophy, you could say, out of the Enlightenment, the American experiment, adopted the Enlightenment idea that there would be a kind of recognition of some god, a generic deity.

02:52:53.000 Many of the Founding Fathers were Christian, but many of them were also deists.

02:52:57.000 Many of them were Freemasons.

02:52:59.000 And so the idea was that we're not going to attach any specificity to this god.

02:53:03.000 It's one nation under a generic god.

02:53:06.000 And so this idea then allowed for the pluralism within the American experiment, and it becomes kind of fundamental to America and Americanism.

02:53:16.000 That obviously doesn't fit with the totalizing aspect of the way Islam understands God.

02:53:23.000 So necessarily these two positions must come into conflict, and that's kind of what's going on in that book.

02:53:29.000 But it's also engineered and manipulated at a higher level.

02:53:33.000 And when we come back, we're going to look at many of the examples of strategists of the elite, the technocrats, who have talked about how they could utilize Islam to completely rewrite The West and its operating system.

02:53:47.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:53:48.000 Don't go anywhere.

02:53:48.000 I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis.

02:53:51.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:53:52.000 I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis.

02:53:54.000 We're talking about the history of Western relationship with Islam and the usage of various Islamic groups and sects for various purposes.

02:54:06.000 In fact, Islam as a whole, you could argue, is being used.

02:54:09.000 I want to talk about that here in a second.

02:54:12.000 And there's many books that I've read on this topic which help, I think, to elucidate the geopolitical role that Islam plays in the mind of the technocrats.

02:54:19.000 And I think the first place to really understand that is to go back to the history of the British Empire.

02:54:24.000 The British Empire thought, for example, that if they could control Mecca and have that as part of their, something out of their dominion, then they would have a huge amount of influence in the world of Islam.

02:54:35.000 And to a degree, that makes sense.

02:54:39.000 And that explains a lot of the policies of the British Empire and a lot of the operations that they engaged in.

02:54:44.000 If you know about Lawrence of Arabia, T.E.

02:54:46.000 Lawrence, if you know about Kim Philby's dad, St.

02:54:52.000 John Philby.

02:54:53.000 I always get him mixed up with St.

02:54:54.000 John Hunt.

02:54:55.000 But Kim Philby's father, who was the famous Arabist and intelligence operative for the British, who went and became essentially a Muslim.

02:55:06.000 That he did that, you could debate whether he really believed in Islam or not, but he was doing it more so as an intelligence operative to help to carve up and establish the Middle East as we know it today out of the British Empire.

02:55:18.000 So the British Empire is really the background to how we have nations like Iraq or even nations like Israel in terms of the Balfour Declaration.

02:55:27.000 So the British Empire has to be understood to understand today's, the way the world is carved up today.

02:55:36.000 Even though back at that time they understood the possibility of using various Islamic groups, what emerged was the idea to actually kind of coax and utilize more and more radical strains of Islam.

02:55:53.000 An example of that would be the Muslim Brotherhood, which has a long history of being aligned with and funded by British intelligence.

02:56:01.000 British intelligence has for many years, many decades, worked with various sectors of the Muslim Brotherhood as a close ally

02:56:09.000 to do all kinds of Operations in other countries and to blame it or pin it on

02:56:13.000 some other group So it functions as a kind of a proxy you could say that

02:56:19.000 doesn't mean that there aren't Serious Muslims amongst those groups, but that is part of

02:56:24.000 the history of the Muslim Brotherhood And many books have been written on that.

02:56:27.000 There's a great book that covers it called Secret Affairs by Mark Curtis.

02:56:31.000 He's a Royal Society researcher.

02:56:33.000 And so we know that being a member of the Royal Society, he's obviously got some clout and some pull in terms of academia.

02:56:42.000 So I think those are reliable sources.

02:56:45.000 And other books that have covered this, there's a book by Robert Dreyfuss called Devil's Game.

02:56:51.000 He talks about, this book talks about the history of Britain and their intelligence services and their quote deep state utilizing Islam.

02:57:01.000 And this one more so focuses on the US utilizing various Islamic groups for their Ends and but both of them kind of have the same principles the same patterns same conclusions and The sort of complex wide wild world of Islam.

02:57:21.000 I think is really crucial to understand So hopefully we can maybe demystify some of that today.

02:57:26.000 So those are a few examples of how imperial geopolitics has seen Islam as something that might be utilized

02:57:32.000 in various ways.

02:57:34.000 But as we get into the turn of the last century, the early 1900s, we've talked about the Fabian Society.

02:57:41.000 This is the socialist elites of the UK who came out of the Cecil Rhodes Rothschild Milner circles

02:57:50.000 who originally wanted a revamped, re-energized British empire for the world.

02:57:57.000 That was Cecil Rhodes' plan.

02:57:59.000 But that didn't really work because after World War I and World War II,

02:58:02.000 Britain started going bankrupt and we had the rise of the United States

02:58:05.000 as the dominant world power.

02:58:07.000 So they realized in the 1920s, 30s, 40s that they weren't going to have a new British Empire.

02:58:12.000 But the best way to go about this new empire that they wanted to control, this new technocratic super state, would be to bring the United States back under its fold and utilize it as the engine of the global order.

02:58:26.000 This happened when the elites of the Royal Society, the British superstructure, etc., and the people that controlled them, this would be the Rothschilds, Cecil Rhodes, Milner types of circles, the Astors, the Cliveden set, they decided that The United States should have a secret inner group that ran it, kind of like the way that the UK was run.

02:58:50.000 In the UK, they had set up what's called the Roundtable Groups.

02:58:53.000 This is the Royal Institute for National Affairs and its idea of these Arturian Roundtable Groups.

02:59:00.000 It doesn't literally go back to King Arthur, it's just an image, it's just an idea of how to model governance by wise men, governance by steering groups and committees, and so they set up Chatham House in the UK for these roundtable groups

02:59:14.000 originally.

02:59:15.000 And then in New York, the Rockefellers helped set up Pratt House, which would be the mirror

02:59:19.000 to that roundtable group in the UK.

02:59:23.000 In the United States, this becomes the Council on Foreign Relations, and eventually the Trilateral

02:59:27.000 Commission is kind of above that.

02:59:29.000 And so you have this structure of a breakaway security state which runs things.

02:59:34.000 And this was the plan that essentially these British intelligence operatives gave to FDR and Bill Donovan when they came and set up this super state, you could say the secret Core breakaway intelligence operation that really runs things in 1942 with the National Security Act, and then it becomes the CIA in 1947.

02:59:56.000 So these entities are examples of what we're talking about, of these steering groups, these breakaway inner cliques.

03:00:04.000 This is what we mean by the cryptocracy, the shadow government, the deep state.

03:00:08.000 That's who really runs things in the United States.

03:00:11.000 And they run things in a kind of public-private way, so they're hidden in plain sight.

03:00:17.000 It's not like a super-secret, hidden-nobody-knows-who-runs-things group.

03:00:22.000 They're in the open, but they're also doing a lot of things in their private meetings.

03:00:28.000 That's the Chatham House rules, so to speak.

03:00:32.000 So, if we go back to the 1910s, 20s, 30s in the UK, the groups around Lord Rothschild and Lord Milner, they had passed away, but they handed on their legacy to the next generation who were running what they believed would be a reformed Marxist socialist order for the world.

03:00:53.000 Reform Marxism is just Marxism updated for accounting for the fact that many aspects of Marxism had failed.

03:01:02.000 So you had these elements in Marxism like the proletariat rising up and seizing the means of production.

03:01:07.000 That didn't happen.

03:01:08.000 And so the Marxist socialists in the UK, many of them, said we got to kind of update.

03:01:14.000 We got to reform this because obviously Joe six pack is not interested in the debates about dialectics that Trotsky talked about.

03:01:24.000 So we got to fix this.

03:01:24.000 We got to come up with some new way.

03:01:26.000 And they had the idea to align themselves with progressive minded, very wealthy people.

03:01:32.000 This is what Fabian socialism is.

03:01:34.000 It's Marxist socialist ideology that is not interested in an immediate bloody revolution, but using the techniques of social engineering and state craft.

03:01:45.000 and the long march through the institutions to eventually seize institutional power

03:01:51.000 over many, many decades or even centuries to then create the eventual Marxist order that they want.

03:01:58.000 So it's a more pragmatic approach than the idealistic approach of classical Marxists.

03:02:04.000 And they ended up being very successful because they ended up gaining a lot

03:02:07.000 of wealthy financial support, including people like Henry Ford,

03:02:12.000 people like the Rothschilds, people like even David Rockefeller

03:02:15.000 was a big fan of the Fabian Socialist model.

03:02:17.000 He studied under Harold Lasky, one of the most famous Fabian Socialist professors.

03:02:22.000 So as we've mentioned many times over, and I'm not gonna rehash this point

03:02:30.000 because I've said it so many times, most of the entities that we know of in the world today

03:02:35.000 that have a tremendous amount of power and call a lot of the shots,

03:02:39.000 things like the CFR, things like the Royal Institute for International Affairs,

03:02:43.000 things like the League of Nations and then the United Nations,

03:02:48.000 the socialist organizations that exist out there in the world,

03:02:51.000 the World Bank, the IMF, NATO, Royal Council of Churches, National Council of Churches, Aspen

03:02:57.000 Institute, Bilderberg, all of these trilateral, they were all founded by Fabian

03:03:03.000 socialists and ideologues to push various types of Fabian socialist ideology. So that's really the

03:03:11.000 idea behind most of what's happening That doesn't mean that everybody out there is self-consciously a Fabian Socialist.

03:03:19.000 There might be many people in these groups who are full-on Marxists, some that are Democrats, some that are, you know, who knows what, full-on classical Marxists.

03:03:30.000 But for the most part, classical Marxism doesn't really exist anymore.

03:03:34.000 Most people are not straight-up hardcore classical Marxists because a lot of what Marx talked about didn't come about.

03:03:41.000 And so they've kind of adapted to, well, we got to morph with and adapt to and change to the times.

03:03:48.000 And so they're much more amenable to monopoly capitalism as Marxist socialists.

03:03:53.000 And so they have this hybrid view, which is what we're talking about.

03:03:56.000 In the 1990s, this was called the third way.

03:03:59.000 And the idea was that with the fall of the Soviet Union, maybe they could combine Eastern Sovietism into Western capitalism and create this hybrid synthesis system out of this dialectic of East versus West.

03:04:13.000 And we just read, for example, Jacques Attali's book, Millennium from 1990 where he was he was talking about this he was talking about as a dialectical conflict of East and West of capitalism Sovietism and out of this would come this synthesis of some form of technocracy which combined both elements of capitalism elements of Sovietism communism socialism Marxism and this slow approach model they found to be a lot better than again the quick immediate bloody revolution of classical Marxism and

03:04:45.000 Or of the Jacobins.

03:04:47.000 That doesn't work very well.

03:04:48.000 It has a lot of bloodshed, and oftentimes it just brings in something way worse.

03:04:53.000 So why not use a longer, slower scientific methodological approach to bring about these ends?

03:05:01.000 Now, a lot of people think, for example, that NATO was founded as an anti-communist institution.

03:05:06.000 It was not.

03:05:07.000 It was founded by Fabian socialists who were opposed to Stalinism and the NKVD and that form of sovietism, not socialism.

03:05:17.000 And this is why people are always getting confused because they hear all these terms and these words.

03:05:21.000 Who is this group?

03:05:21.000 Is it that group?

03:05:22.000 All of these groups that we listed are founded by people in the circles of Rose Rothschild, Milner, etc.

03:05:30.000 Even the New Age movement from Madame Blavatsky, guess what?

03:05:32.000 She was a Fabian socialist.

03:05:34.000 So what about Islam?

03:05:35.000 How does Islam factor into this?

03:05:36.000 Well, I was happy to see that, you know, a lot of times when you read people's analyses of this, they're very one-sided.

03:05:43.000 They don't have a nuanced approach.

03:05:45.000 They don't really think about how there could be multiple things going on here.

03:05:49.000 So a lot of times, right-wingers will think that, oh, it's all Islam versus classical liberalism.

03:05:56.000 Or it's, you know, the terrorists that did 9-11 versus the free Christian West or something like that.

03:06:02.000 I mean, this is just a super dumbed down, not even close to how it's really going on in the real world, how complex it actually is.

03:06:10.000 So I want to try to demystify it and make it a little less complex.

03:06:15.000 One thing that people don't understand is what's with this alliance between the left and Islam?

03:06:20.000 We've seen this for a long time and there seems to be something to this and it doesn't On the face of it, make much sense because, well, doesn't Islam typically oppose a lot of these leftist principles?

03:06:33.000 That's true.

03:06:34.000 But there's more going on because it's a geostrategic thing.

03:06:38.000 It's not really to do with the ideas themselves.

03:06:41.000 And if we go back to the early Fabian socialists in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, guess what?

03:06:47.000 They were writing and talking about how to bring into the UK Islam.

03:06:53.000 And they wanted this because This is their own writings.

03:06:57.000 They wanted to replace the existing white population with a foreign population that had a diametrically opposed worldview on purpose, like Huntington talked about.

03:07:08.000 Now, Huntington doesn't talk about this in like a conspiracy way, but he does say that these worldviews are in conflict.

03:07:15.000 They're not, you can't assimilate these two positions.

03:07:20.000 They're mutually exclusive positions.

03:07:23.000 Well, it turns out that in the 1910s, 20s, 30s, 40s, many of the early Fabian socialists wrote many books praising Muhammad and Islam.

03:07:32.000 Part of the reason for this, not the only reason, but part of the reason for this is that

03:07:35.000 many of the British elite had gotten a kind of fascination with Islam and Arabic culture.

03:07:45.000 That's because of a lot of the intelligence operations, a lot of the connections between Islam

03:07:50.000 and the British intelligence and the Muslim Brotherhood, the previous spies that we mentioned.

03:07:55.000 And so there were many Arabists and many Orientalists and many people who studied these cultures

03:07:59.000 and some of them perhaps who even maybe believed it.

03:08:03.000 It's not exactly clear what worldview King Charles has, but he's expressed in many instances

03:08:11.000 a lot of interest in Sufism.

03:08:13.000 He was even inducted at one point into a Sufi order.

03:08:17.000 Now he tends to be more of a perennialist and so he seems to kind of change and like all the religions, so who knows what he really believes, but he has at many in many occasions expressed a fascination and interest with Sufism and thus other forms of Islam.

03:08:31.000 But that's interesting because there's a long history again of the British elite.

03:08:36.000 It seems like about half of them were pro, for example, Palestine.

03:08:41.000 around the time of the Balfour Declaration.

03:08:43.000 About the other half of them were pro-Zionist and wanted to set up a Zionist state.

03:08:49.000 We covered that in the Quigley book.

03:08:51.000 So it's not a black or white issue.

03:08:53.000 I'm just saying that that's part of the power structure in the UK was very fascinated with and very into Islam.

03:09:00.000 This led, for example, British intelligence to setting up a puppet Mufti in Jerusalem.

03:09:07.000 The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a explicitly a British intelligence operative and asset.

03:09:13.000 And that's because they really wanted to have that control there as well, if they had their asset there.

03:09:18.000 And that's why you see him meeting with Hitler, for example.

03:09:20.000 There's a famous picture of that guy meeting with Hitler.

03:09:22.000 If you look up the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, by the way, he looks just like Ryan Gosling.

03:09:26.000 So I've been making that joke for many years, but I mean, literally just like him.

03:09:31.000 So maybe it's like reincarnated.

03:09:32.000 He reincarnated as Ryan Gosling or something.

03:09:35.000 I mean, I don't believe in reincarnation, but that's just a joke.

03:09:41.000 The Fabian Socialists, to go back to these characters around the circles of Milner and Rothschild and all that, they also had a lot of associates like Annie Besant, Bertrand Russell, H.G.

03:09:53.000 Wells.

03:09:53.000 You've probably heard of them.

03:09:54.000 We've lectured through all their books.

03:09:56.000 Guess what?

03:09:57.000 They're all interested in Fabian Socialism.

03:09:59.000 And the clearest examples of this are the writings of, for example, H.G.

03:10:03.000 Wells.

03:10:04.000 Wells wrote that we would enter into a scientific technocracy.

03:10:08.000 And this will be basically like Star Trek.

03:10:10.000 We're all going to be living in the Federation and flying around in, you know, space coon pods or whatever.

03:10:16.000 Of course, that's not really where we are.

03:10:18.000 But what people don't know is that they all wrote about how much they loved Mohammed and Islam.

03:10:26.000 Now, they don't believe Islam, but they had this fascination with this love, this desire for Islam to enter into the UK and Europe.

03:10:37.000 Why?

03:10:38.000 Islam isn't immediately compatible with New Age stuff.

03:10:42.000 Well, they began by liking and appreciating Sufism.

03:10:46.000 The Fabians were in love with Sufism, and it's actually a large part of Sufism that helps to inject the energy and impetus to the New Age movement.

03:10:58.000 For example, Madame Blavatsky was a fan of it.

03:11:01.000 Besant was a fan of Islam and Sufism.

03:11:04.000 And so they brought in to the UK these professors who were promoting and were kind of missionaries for Islam through Sufism originally because Sufism is more of a mystical neoplatonic Islam and that's more amenable to a population that was still nominally Christian like the British were.

03:11:22.000 So even though the Church of England is kind of a joke, by this time people were again Much more open to other options since the Church of England had becoming more and more and more liberal today it's just completely totally gone, but Even at this time it was it was becoming liberalized as if we were saying well, maybe there's other options and so they started reading Rumi the poet Getting into his Sufism.

03:11:50.000 Theosophy was also very amenable to Sufism you started having professors, lecturers at Oxford, Cambridge, etc. Teaching

03:12:00.000 Islamic courses, teaching Islamic lectures, classes, printing books. And a Sufi Institute was

03:12:09.000 set up called the ICR, the Institute for, I forget the exact name of it, but it's called the ICR

03:12:16.000 and set up by this guy who was brought into Oxford basically to help Islamicize the UK.

03:12:22.000 But this model was no different than the EU as well. So understand that the Fabian socialists were

03:12:29.000 saying that, how could we replace Christianity and the indigenous population in Europe to

03:12:36.000 make it more amenable to this EU model that they wanted? Yes, they wanted an EU even in that

03:12:42.000 early day. Even in the 20s and 30s, these people were discussing how to create a European

03:12:47.000 socialist union. How would we create that?

03:12:50.000 Well, we're going to have to get rid of Christianity, they say, the existing Christian systems that are there, and the Christian population.

03:12:56.000 How would we do that?

03:12:58.000 The best way to do that, they said, they strategized, bring in gigantic amounts of Muslims.

03:13:04.000 So Sufism was originally the cultural engineering In the 1930s, 40s, etc., to eventually shift over into the more radical, quote, orthodox branches of Islam.

03:13:17.000 They couldn't immediately bring in all of the Salafi, Wahhabi people who were already, many of them working for the British Empire and for British Intelligence, the Muslim Brotherhood.

03:13:25.000 They brought in the Sufis and then they warmed people up after many decades.

03:13:28.000 Again, that is the Fabian slow kill model.

03:13:33.000 Then eventually you've got essentially Muslims running The whole place.

03:13:39.000 You've got Londonistan, as it's known, for many, many years.

03:13:42.000 And this is why you've got British intelligence working with and protecting many of these, quote, radicals for many, many decades.

03:13:49.000 How are they allowed to just run wild and do all this stuff in the UK?

03:13:52.000 The blind shake, all these people who are obviously, you know, double agents and operatives.

03:13:58.000 Well, because the intelligence services are not actually opposed to Islam.

03:14:04.000 Now, people in the, quote, conspiracy world have been saying this for so long.

03:14:09.000 Especially after the Big Nine event, right?

03:14:12.000 And people who didn't believe in false flags and this stuff, they derided and talked bad about us and said how evil we were and all this kind of stuff.

03:14:21.000 But I appreciate Rajiv because he understands that the operatives, for example, in the 7-7 event were working for British intelligence.

03:14:29.000 They were people on the roll.

03:14:32.000 Haroon Rashid-Oswad, Was recruited by MI6 in Kosovo when he was doing things for the KLA.

03:14:41.000 The KLA was another fake Western created operation for the Islamic Kosovo liberation.

03:14:48.000 That was Tony Blair and Bill Clinton selecting Al-Qaeda operatives to run those operations there.

03:14:55.000 And one of those characters was Harun Rashid Aswat, who was then brought to the UK and one of the key figures in the London 7-7 event.

03:15:05.000 So these, I mean, what does that tell you?

03:15:07.000 In fact, you can still find the Fox News clip where they covered this, that Arun Rashid Ashwat was running that operation and that he'd been recruited by British intelligence.

03:15:21.000 It's not government incompetency.

03:15:23.000 They're so incompetent.

03:15:26.000 Don't they know?

03:15:27.000 They're so stupid.

03:15:28.000 It's the same lie that allows the politicians to do all this stuff in the US as well.

03:15:34.000 Biden's so stupid, what a boob!

03:15:37.000 They're not stupid.

03:15:37.000 The politicians are stupid.

03:15:39.000 Whoever that British payer or whatever his name is, yeah, he might be an idiotic tool.

03:15:45.000 But the people that are running these things in the intelligence services, they're not stupid.

03:15:50.000 Now, they're not infallible.

03:15:51.000 They're not omnipotent.

03:15:53.000 But they knew all along these people were radical Muslims.

03:15:57.000 And by the way, I came to the UK years ago for a talk, and I was accosted and interrogated for 40 minutes at the airport because I was bringing in books to sell.

03:16:08.000 It wasn't thousands of books.

03:16:10.000 It was a couple dozen books to sell at a talk.

03:16:13.000 So they can stop me and interrogate me for 40 minutes and almost not let me into the country.

03:16:19.000 But they can't stop and they don't know who Haroon Rashid Oswalt is, who worked for British intelligence.

03:16:26.000 Come on, this is ridiculous.

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03:17:42.000 I was just reading on Twitter, somebody who presumably is from the UK was talking about how there are now 140 MPs that are explicitly, openly Fabian Socialists, including Sadiq Khan, including the present governor of the Bank of England.

03:18:01.000 So understand that this ideology is not something that died or went away.

03:18:04.000 It might be obscure.

03:18:06.000 It might be something that not many people in America know about.

03:18:10.000 But this ideology is very popular in the UK for sure.

03:18:13.000 In fact, many of the Labour politicians have been covert and secret Fabian socialists for a long time.

03:18:22.000 Some of them even more openly.

03:18:25.000 So again, this is not a This is not a secret society or some sort of secret thing that we're going to hide in the shadows and nobody knows that we're Fabian socialists.

03:18:37.000 This isn't a public organization, an entity that has, again, a very public symbology that they show quite often that they have a few symbols.

03:18:47.000 One of them is the wolf in sheep's clothing.

03:18:49.000 This is the idea that, going back to Beatrice and Sidney Webb and others, that in order to make Marxism and Socialism successful, what they would have to do is don the cloak, the image of a enlightened progressive, of liberalism.

03:19:05.000 Even though classical Marxism is not liberal, it's known as anti-liberal because it's opposed to liberal economic theory.

03:19:10.000 And if you go into the history of Marxism, you'll learn very clearly that, very quickly, that they're not liberal, they're anti-liberal.

03:19:20.000 The Fabian Socialists decided that it was much more successful to get on the cloak of being a progressive, of being a liberal, of being favorable towards capitalism and so forth, liberal economic theory.

03:19:33.000 And so they sort of aligned and melded with it.

03:19:36.000 And that was one of the key strategies that made them so successful in the UK.

03:19:40.000 For example, Tony Blair was openly a Fabian socialist.

03:19:43.000 His whole policy, his whole everything he was doing was part of that Fabian socialist ideology.

03:19:49.000 So it is imperial reformed Marxist socialism.

03:19:54.000 That's what Fabian socialism is.

03:19:56.000 And it works together closely with monopoly capitalism.

03:20:01.000 Explicitly.

03:20:02.000 That's all you have to understand.

03:20:03.000 And that's how you understand that that's the world that we're going into.

03:20:06.000 That's why so many of these politicians who you're constantly fighting over between them being liberal or conservative or liberal or conservative, they're all working with the same basic ideology.

03:20:18.000 I'm not saying that Trump is a Fabian socialist.

03:20:20.000 He's not.

03:20:21.000 Trump is just a straight up capitalist, I think, in terms of his ideology.

03:20:24.000 But the Federal Reserve system, Keynesian economics, is Fabian socialist economics.

03:20:32.000 John Mellon Keynes was into Fabian Socialism.

03:20:34.000 He's one of these characters who helped to set up these institutions like IMF and World Bank, which are part of this gigantic Fabian Socialist structure, which is the governing ideological system of technocracy that is running the world in the West.

03:20:52.000 Again, League of Nations, United Nations, these are all entities established from this mindset, from this ideology.

03:21:01.000 And again, the intelligence services, especially in the UK, were never opposed to these Islamic ideologies, Islamic theology, or Islamic radicalism.

03:21:14.000 That's why it's been fostered, allowed, and promoted in the UK.

03:21:20.000 And people have been, again, so averse to this idea and thinking that it's a conspiracy theory.

03:21:26.000 But this last week woke everyone up to this.

03:21:30.000 Now people are realizing, hey, wait a minute, you know, idiot right-wingers thinking that they can make an alliance with Islam and now the Muslims are all, you know, fighting and attacking and pointing out that you're not going to make an alliance with this.

03:21:41.000 This is a religion of submission and ultimately submission by force as well.

03:21:45.000 It's not a religion where you debate and everybody's friendly and we come to these conclusions on the basis of rational discourse and ideology.

03:21:53.000 No, no, no, that's not how that works.

03:21:55.000 There's some Muslims who will do that.

03:21:57.000 But ultimately, Islam doesn't operate in that way.

03:22:00.000 That's a Western idea.

03:22:02.000 So, it's silly to think that non-Western people are going to operate on the principles of Western liberalism and debate and enlightenment ideology.

03:22:11.000 They'll only do that until they gain the upper hand, and then it flips, and then you get this system.

03:22:17.000 Now, the crazy part, though, is that the elites aren't even really into Islam.

03:22:24.000 But they see Islam as a very useful geopolitical tool.

03:22:28.000 That's the key here.

03:22:29.000 And I was mentioning earlier the New Age movement, that it's largely traceable, I think, to Madame Lovatsky, who was a Fabian socialist in the circles of Milner and all these Rothschilds and these people.

03:22:46.000 She also, and the New Age Movement, also shares a lot of its origin with Sufism in the UK and the promotion of Sufi Islam and its syncretist kind of Neoplatonic principles.

03:23:00.000 Neoplatonism is one of these systems which allows all of the world religions to kind of be subsumed under this superstructure, this perennialist type of structure.

03:23:10.000 And also, by the way, Ratio makes a key point, which I believe F. William Engdahl makes in his books, particularly Full Spectrum Dominance, which is that the 1973 oil crisis was key because that allowed Bilderberg and Kissinger to make the decision, via OPEC and all that, to establish the Western reliance on Arab oil.

03:23:34.000 Have you ever wondered why?

03:23:36.000 I mean, we don't have to have Arab oil.

03:23:39.000 Doesn't America have gigantic untapped oil reserves?

03:23:44.000 Yeah, sure.

03:23:45.000 But the global elite intentionally don't want us tapping those things.

03:23:50.000 That's why there's these laws and there's these, you know, they pass laws against drilling on this continent.

03:23:55.000 And we have to rely on foreign oil because of these deals that were made for Big globalist institutions.

03:24:04.000 And Ratiu has a fascinating chapter on that, where he talks about how this was decided in the Bilderberg meetings via Kissinger and others, as Engdahl points out.

03:24:17.000 Like other key British institutions, the Fabian-founded London School for Economics, with its closely linked Department of International Relations, set up by the Fabian Lord Haldane and his friend Lord Rothschild, Together with Sir Ernst Kassel in the 1920s and the European Institute have been running research courses and seminars and lectures to provoke the advanced thinking on EU-Muslim relations.

03:24:38.000 In 2010, a new pro-Islamic outfit was created with the name of the Center for Middle Eastern Studies.

03:24:44.000 It was added to the London School of Economics arsenal.

03:24:47.000 The pro-Islamic stance of such institutions is demonstrated by their receipt of vast sums of money from Islamic regimes in other countries.

03:24:57.000 And so, money had been coming in.

03:24:59.000 You probably remember that famous banker, Peter Sutherland.

03:25:02.000 Well, Peter Sutherland talked about replacing the existing populations of Europe.

03:25:07.000 Famously, the banker.

03:25:09.000 He was one of these key people involved in making sure that funding went to these entities to islamicize Europe.

03:25:16.000 So understand it's not just outside Islamic powers and forces, it's the traitors within the EU and the UK, particularly in the Rothschild, Rhodes, Milner, Fabian circles, and the EU, because these are the people that set up the EU.

03:25:30.000 Remember the same people that we're talking about set up the EU.

03:25:35.000 It wasn't Hitler that set up the EU.

03:25:37.000 He had a plan for his version of an EU, but the EU was set up by the OSS and the CIA on record.

03:25:44.000 Bill Donovan, Jan Smuts, The European coal project.

03:25:49.000 Those are all OSS projects.

03:25:51.000 They're not projects by Hitler.

03:25:53.000 So it's not true that Hitler set up the EU.

03:25:56.000 It's verifiable on record that Donovan and the CIA and OSS established the EU, and it was decided on at the Bilderberg meetings.

03:26:04.000 Daniel Asselin has in his book the declassified old documents from those old Bilderberg meetings about setting up the EU.

03:26:11.000 And that was, they weren't doing that with Hitler, okay?

03:26:15.000 Anyway, Rajiv goes on to talk about the decision to make the West dependent on Arab oil as part of this global superstructure that they wanted to set up.

03:26:27.000 The same idea with making American manufacturing not local, but dependent on Chinese goods.

03:26:37.000 That same strategy.

03:26:38.000 Do you understand that the deindustrialization and sending all of that to other countries is on purpose?

03:26:45.000 It's not just because they want to have a tax break, right?

03:26:49.000 Like, if you listen to somebody like Peter Schiff, it's, well, companies just go over to other countries because of high taxes.

03:26:55.000 Yeah, but they do that on purpose.

03:26:57.000 To de-industrialize the West.

03:26:58.000 Because these people said, we want to de-industrialize the West.

03:27:03.000 And the 1973 Carter-era oil crisis was engineered.

03:27:07.000 That's the thing.

03:27:10.000 Because we don't have to be reliant on foreign oil.

03:27:15.000 But now what do we have?

03:27:16.000 Well, decades later, after 9-11, and after all of this, you have a Fabian Socialist Islamic-ish mayor, Sadiq Khan, who was a member of the Fabian Society, shadow minister for London, at least when this book was written.

03:27:37.000 Many, many other, as we said, politicians who, as their explicit party stated goal, Is, for example, Tony Blair.

03:27:48.000 Tony Blair praised the Quran and Islamic imperialism as a progressive move in 2006.

03:27:54.000 So this is like a couple years after 9-11.

03:27:59.000 What?

03:28:00.000 A year before 7-7.

03:28:02.000 And Tony Blair is saying, we need more Islam.

03:28:05.000 Wait a minute.

03:28:07.000 According to the official narrative of 9-11, it's radical Saudis and Osama Bin Laden that are waging this covert war through terror on the West.

03:28:19.000 And so what is Tony Blair and all these politicians answer?

03:28:23.000 We need more Islam.

03:28:24.000 But they're not stupid.

03:28:31.000 People who are Organizing the Fabian methodology and all this, they're not dumb.

03:28:37.000 They're the people that set up all the institutions that we know today, including NATO.

03:28:43.000 So why would we think and why do we keep defaulting to thinking that everybody who's running things is just stupid and incompetent?

03:28:49.000 That is a cloak that allows them to keep getting away with more.

03:28:53.000 Until you recognize and understand that the world is not run by total idiots, but that there is an Atlantis's power block, And I'm not saying that they're infallible or omnipotent.

03:29:07.000 They do have weaknesses and they can fail at this.

03:29:10.000 Many of the things that they push fail.

03:29:12.000 Many of the things that they push fall apart and don't work.

03:29:18.000 And we have to understand, for example, that to give you some good news, if you go back to Jacques Attali's books, if you remember, Jacques Attali said that when we roll out this technocratic order, there will be massive reaction.

03:29:31.000 And he even gives the decades when he thinks that will happen.

03:29:33.000 He says between 2020 and 2040, he says there will be a large uprising against this.

03:29:40.000 And he says that's the one thing we have to worry about.

03:29:42.000 And guess what he says is the main concern?

03:29:45.000 He says Christian theocracy in the West and in America will make a resurgence and we have to be concerned with that as the thing that might foil the rollout of the technocratic global order.

03:29:57.000 He explicitly says that in his 2006 Brief History of the Future.

03:30:02.000 Jacques Attali is not a nobody.

03:30:04.000 He's the Kissinger of France.

03:30:05.000 We just covered his 1990 book a few weeks ago, where he said, in 1990, I'm being put as the head of this new EU bank.

03:30:13.000 You're right.

03:30:13.000 The official rollout of the EU was right around that time.

03:30:16.000 They had planned the EU 50, 70 years earlier.

03:30:21.000 And because of the fall of the wall, Jacques Attali says, I'm being placed as the head of this big bank here to help Integrate the former Soviet bloc countries into the EU and to get them under IMF debt and control.

03:30:37.000 So that's how it works.

03:30:37.000 That's the that's the Keynesian model.

03:30:39.000 So it's not capitalism versus communism and that's old stuff.

03:30:43.000 It's.

03:30:45.000 Populism and local governance and the rights of individuals and people versus.

03:30:54.000 Collectivism and Fabian socialism.

03:30:58.000 Which is aligned with corporatism.

03:31:01.000 And we still have people running around acting like it's the state versus libertarianism.

03:31:07.000 I mean, this is just such a low-tier, childish, you know, non-nuance, non-reality-based philosophy or picture of what's going on.

03:31:19.000 I mean, if it's libertarianism versus the state, Then why were all the corporations and the Fortune 500, Fortune 100 pushing all of the COOF stuff, all the Skittle stuff, all the T-R-A-N-S stuff?

03:31:35.000 That's not state versus corporations.

03:31:38.000 It's a gigantic, megalithic, corporate-private conglomeration, including all the biggest banks and all of the Fortune 100 and Fortune 500 companies.

03:31:48.000 They're all bad.

03:31:50.000 That's the point.

03:31:52.000 And so the way to break out of this system is to understand that none of these systems are good.

03:31:57.000 None of these systems are going to save anybody.

03:32:00.000 You're not going to fix it by pushing more classical liberalism, the philosophy of 400 years ago, which is totally not even relevant in the modern world.

03:32:11.000 You're only going to fix it with a return to what the global elite themselves say is the danger.

03:32:18.000 Real grounded theism Christian theism.

03:32:25.000 What did HG Wells and Bertrand Russell and, say, Alice Bailey, another one of the Fabian Socialist witches in the circles of these people who helped found the New Age movement, whose philosophy was adopted by the United Nations, what did she say would have to be done?

03:32:42.000 Does anybody recall?

03:32:43.000 She has a 10-point plan to do what?

03:32:46.000 To destroy Christianity.

03:32:48.000 Why?

03:32:49.000 A 10-point plan to destroy Christianity?

03:32:51.000 She says we would have to destroy Christianity to bring in the New Age and the socialist world government.

03:32:59.000 The capitalist socialist world government.

03:33:03.000 Fast forward almost 100 years-ish, and what does Jacques Attali say?

03:33:10.000 Our main concern is a resurgent, authentic Christianity in America and in the West.

03:33:17.000 That would be the stumbling block to rolling out the Skynet Matrix Golem Project.

03:33:24.000 He calls it a golem.

03:33:25.000 Linking everyone's brains into a supercomputer is called a golem, which comes out of the medieval Kabbalist mythology, the golem.

03:33:34.000 By the way, the famous father of cybernetics, Norbert Wiener, I was reading a bunch of his stuff this last week.

03:33:41.000 Well, guess what?

03:33:41.000 If you read his book on cybernetics, within the first 20 pages, He says that, yes, I worked with the Rockefeller Foundation, MIT, the Macy Foundation, Gregory Bateson, and a host of other nefarious characters who just happen to be all the same characters that are part of MKUltra.

03:34:00.000 So even Norbert Wiener's own book on cybernetics vindicates that it comes out of the MKUltra projects.

03:34:07.000 He doesn't mention MKUltra.

03:34:09.000 He doesn't have to, because if you've read the other books on MKUltra, you know that all of those entities are directly connected with him funding the various MKUltra projects.

03:34:17.000 And both of the classic books on MKUltra, John Marks' book, Walter Bowers' book, both from the late 70s, end their books with chapters about how MKUltra transitioned into cybernetics.

03:34:31.000 And what is, what's the point of all that?

03:34:33.000 Well, guess what?

03:34:34.000 Norbert Wiener wrote another book called God and the Golem.

03:34:39.000 And the golem is what he's talking about with cybernetics.

03:34:42.000 So in Jewish medieval philosophy and Kabbalism, the idea of a being with no soul that is then ensouled or controlled by the magician and created from a husk, the klephot, that's what a golem is.

03:34:58.000 G-O-L-E-M.

03:35:00.000 And so from that vantage point, they would see the masses as a gigantic golem Linked into the global brain.

03:35:11.000 That's not my words, that's Jacques Attali's words.

03:35:14.000 Jacques Attali says that when everybody's linked into the global brain, it's the golem.

03:35:21.000 It's what he says in his book Brief History of the Future.

03:35:25.000 Now, I don't think it's only Jewish-minded individuals or Kabbalists or whoever.

03:35:29.000 There's all kinds of individuals involved in pushing this ideology and this project.

03:35:35.000 There are Politicians, there's CEOs, there's people who are not partisan to necessarily Jewish mysticism, but they don't have to be, because they're all part of the same agenda, which is to roll out this technocratic control system, which always has the same models, depopulation, one world currency, one world government, tracking, tracing, and control for all means and medium of exchange, shutting off your wallet, social credit system, all of that is part of this whole thing.

03:36:05.000 But Islam plays a key role in this, which we can't overlook or ignore, which is to be a kind of battering ram for the global elite technocrats to bring them into the areas where they can be used.

03:36:17.000 So in the case of Europe, that was the most logical conclusion for the technocrats.

03:36:23.000 What other religion and historic Antithesis to Europe and its pseudo-Christian history, at least the last thousand years.

03:36:33.000 What other option would you do?

03:36:35.000 There's no other options.

03:36:36.000 You're going to bring in Chinese, you know, communism.

03:36:39.000 You're going to import Islam on a mass scale.

03:36:41.000 That's the only thing that makes any sense.

03:36:43.000 And Peter Sutherland, these other famous banking elites, said that that's exactly what they were doing.

03:36:47.000 So they openly said this.

03:36:49.000 I remember when it came out on mainstream news that Peter Sutherland was saying, we've got to bring in more Muslims.

03:36:55.000 To destroy the existing European state to create a more fundamentally homogenous EU.

03:37:02.000 General Wesley Clark, everybody quotes him about the Seven Nation Plan.

03:37:06.000 Well, guess what?

03:37:06.000 He also had other quotes because he was at NATO, where he said that part of the philosophy and strategy of NATO is to destroy Europe, to make it a EU.

03:37:15.000 He knew this.

03:37:17.000 He admitted it.

03:37:19.000 You're not supposed to talk about the Kalergi plan, but I have Kalergi's book.

03:37:23.000 He talks about creating a homogenous Europe, a new European socialist state, and quickly says that the British Royal Society elite adopted the Count's plan.

03:37:34.000 It's not a conspiracy theory.

03:37:36.000 He wrote a book about it.

03:37:37.000 So remember, the books that they write, they call that conspiracy theory, even though it's public books, and it's not a conspiracy theory.

03:37:46.000 Because it's not a theory.

03:37:47.000 It's an actual plan that's rolled out in the books.

03:37:50.000 They write about it.

03:37:53.000 Anyway, so Islam also plays another role, too, though, in being utilized by Western intelligence, going all the way back to British intelligence.

03:38:06.000 At the turn of the last century, utilizing A lot of tribal warfare, sparking tribal warfare.

03:38:13.000 This is just imperial geopolitics where you keep the tribes working with each other to control those tribes.

03:38:19.000 This goes back to Caesar, his diaries, and how he would control the Germanic tribes and other tribes, the British tribes that were the barbarians, he would keep them fighting with each other so that he could manage them.

03:38:34.000 The same principle was going on with the British Empire.

03:38:37.000 And I'm not saying that the British Empire started all the tribal conflicts.

03:38:41.000 There have always been tribal conflicts in the Middle East.

03:38:43.000 I'm well aware of that.

03:38:45.000 But I'm just saying that imperial geopolitics typically plays on this ability to play up and exacerbate the existing local tensions.

03:38:55.000 That's exactly the strategy that Brzezinski adopted, again, based on earlier British intelligence models for how they would utilize radical Islam in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s.

03:39:08.000 In fact, go look up the Mujahideen at the White House.

03:39:11.000 I mean, Ronald Reagan has the freedom fighters, the Mujahideen, which will become Al Qaeda eventually in a few decades.

03:39:19.000 In the White House, actually in one decade.

03:39:21.000 So from 1980s, right, Al-Qaeda is the freedom fighting heroes, meeting with Ronald Reagan in the White House.

03:39:29.000 Ten years later, Al-Qaeda is behind the World Trade Center bombing, and there's this Osama Bin Laden figure, and we gotta watch out for him.

03:39:38.000 And he happens to pop up again, 9-11.

03:39:40.000 We had no idea what was going on, even though there was already a 1993 provocateured Imad Salaam bombing of the World Trade Center.

03:39:49.000 Condoleezza Rice says, we had no idea that anybody would bomb these things or try

03:39:52.000 to attack the others. No idea, we never heard of this, even though they were running

03:39:55.000 drills like Vigilant Guardian that very day. So it's all a bunch of lies because in reality, the

03:40:01.000 system, especially in the security deep state, they know all this stuff, at least the ones at

03:40:07.000 the Brzezinski-Kissinger level, right?

03:40:09.000 People who are at lower level, they don't know this stuff.

03:40:11.000 The lower level people are well indoctrinated through the education system to believe a lot of the bull crap, right?

03:40:16.000 They believe in the dialectic.

03:40:18.000 They believe that this and that.

03:40:20.000 They don't understand black ops.

03:40:22.000 They don't understand, you know, this kind of stuff until you get, I think, up in this higher level of people who are invited to things like the steering group committees.

03:40:31.000 Then you get people who are more familiar with how this stuff really works.

03:40:35.000 People who understand You know, what the Trilateral Commission is and who understand the technocracy that they want to bring in.

03:40:42.000 So again, Islam plays a key role in being a battering ram.

03:40:45.000 A hundred years ago, it played a key role through Sufism of being a kind of mystical door to open the way for Europe and the UK to be Islamicized.

03:40:56.000 That then allowed for the election through guilt manipulation, through a lot of tactics, a lot of propagation, a lot of propaganda in the media, a lot of foreign entities using NGOs to truck in and boat in all these people.

03:41:10.000 I went to Italy a few months ago, and several Italian cities had no Italians.

03:41:15.000 In fact, we went to Genoa.

03:41:18.000 I didn't see any salami, by the way, but in Genoa, it was like I was in Africa.

03:41:22.000 Literally, it was like there were no Italians in Genoa.

03:41:25.000 Pretty crazy.

03:41:27.000 And the same thing has happened to a lot of the Italian islands, which are not Italian islands anymore, now they're African islands.

03:41:32.000 And it's by design.

03:41:33.000 In fact, you can go read the AP articles saying that.

03:41:37.000 We know who the foundations and the think tanks and the NGOs are that are doing this.

03:41:43.000 It's all public.

03:41:44.000 So it just requires a little more sophisticated thinking than dialectical thinking.

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Alex Jones Show - August 09, 2024

Lara Logan Hosts The Alex Jones Show LIVE In-Studio! Renowned Investigative Journalist Breaks Exclusive Intel On The Incredible New Footage From The Trump Assassination Attempt & MORE! — FULL SHOW 8-9-24

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