Alex Jones Show - Steve Lane Rusty Fields Freedom Report feat Alex Jones

00:00:00.000 *Colding* Cold Dead Hands!

00:00:16.000 Woo! *Colding* There are global corporations They have billions that they pay To the greedy politicians They make sure things go their way That's essential property We live from day to day But then we're just a fear We don't get to have a say If you wanna force this constitution Is that what's in your plan?

00:00:42.000 You take my gun from my cold dead hand In every case in history The chastised plan gathered up in the opposition band.

00:00:52.000 The tyros made distractions, and the people looked away.

00:00:56.000 And by the time they realized they couldn't get away.

00:00:59.000 The smiling things on my knees and reaching old torn hands can help create this vision of the new world or the plan.

00:01:07.000 Well, now the stars are the vaccines.

00:01:09.000 Here are vaccines, all right.

00:01:11.000 Do you and the beat force?

00:01:12.000 How do you do just what they say?

00:01:14.000 Take your clothes, Alexander, and your new world order.

00:01:18.000 Take my gun from my crooked hand.

00:01:21.000 Take my gun.

00:01:51.000 Take my gun.

00:01:57.000 Let them hang on the sheriff's back! 0.99

00:01:59.000 Any time as Jebchons, there would come a day When governments were trying to leave the people all astray Confusing and confusing, the story's stripping rights away To protect yourself from tyranny, there can only be one way What are you, unenfranged, if you do not understand You can take my gun from my cold, dead hand In every case through history, when genocide is planned The firearms were gathered up and the opposition banned 1.00

00:02:28.000 The tolerance made of distractions and the people left away And by the time they realized they couldn't get away A man up in Utah, by the name of Sheriff Mack Said we've lost our constitution and we've got to take it back The right to keep in their arms when the bill breaks his hand Is there to hunt or target shoot, it's there to help defend There ain't nothing here to compromise, there's a line here in the sand And you can take my gun from my cold, dead hand hand.

00:02:57.000 Take your globalist agenda and your new world north plan.

00:03:01.000 And you can take my gun from my cold, dead hands.

00:03:05.000 What part of army friends do you not understand?

00:03:08.000 And you can take my gun from my cold, dead hand.

00:03:12.000 Hello, Austin.

00:03:23.000 Welcome to the Freedom Report.

00:03:24.000 My name is Steve Lane.

00:03:26.000 I'm joined tonight by Rusty Fields.

00:03:28.000 Hello, Steve.

00:03:29.000 Glad to have you here, Rusty.

00:03:30.000 Good to be here.

00:03:31.000 Normally, you'd see myself and Alex Jones here.

00:03:34.000 Alex, fortunately for him and unfortunately for us, is now doing a nightly radio show on KJFK, who is also a sponsor of the Freedom Report.

00:03:45.000 We are very proud.

00:03:46.000 That KJFK has the will to sponsor programs like this and to put people like Alex Jones on the air and to put out the kind of information that we do.

00:03:56.000 Steve, that's 98.9?

00:03:59.000 It's KJFK and he's going to be on every night now besides his four hours on Saturday.

00:04:06.000 So we're very proud of Alex, very happy that he gets this.

00:04:10.000 It makes it tough on us because now we have the two.

00:04:12.000 True rookies on the Freedom Report, but hopefully you'll suffer through this with us, our first show together tonight.

00:04:18.000 Alex, if you're listening, we're going to do the best we possibly can.

00:04:21.000 This will be a great show.

00:04:22.000 Rusty, I'm sure he's going to catch on real quick.

00:04:26.000 Tonight, we've got a lot of information to get to, so we're going to get right at it.

00:04:30.000 We're going to lead off talking about a news report that NBC News 36 did on the Independence Day.

00:04:38.000 Celebration that myself and Rusty and many others participated in, all told about 100 people, Saturday, July 4th, of course, down at the steps of the Capitol.

00:04:48.000 The celebration started at about 12 o'clock noon, at least for us.

00:04:54.000 Unfortunately, though, about three hours prior to that, there was a gentleman who, we've had reports, is a mental patient, actually.

00:05:02.000 Those are unconfirmed reports at this point, but he was actually a mental patient, had decided to come down a little bit early, I think very suspiciously.

00:05:10.000 It just so happens that News 36 happened to be down there to record him burning a United States flag.

00:05:17.000 Now, a lot of people get really upset over this thing.

00:05:19.000 I think we should get upset, but let's remember one thing.

00:05:22.000 Somebody brought up the very valid point on an email to me that burning a flag is the appropriate way to retire an old flag.

00:05:29.000 I think if you truly want to desecrate a flag, you should do what we did to the UN flag, that is Alex Jones and others, and haptic a bit.

00:05:37.000 We can't mention everything we did to the UN flag on the air.

00:05:40.000 Yeah, right.

00:05:41.000 That's the way to truly desecrate a flag.

00:05:43.000 Burning is an appropriate way to retire an old flag.

00:05:46.000 But anyways, the point being is that the way they did this little so-called news piece is they showed this apparent mental patient burning a United States flag some three hours.

00:05:58.000 Before we had our Independence Day celebration, but they coupled the video right together with Alex Jones and others cutting apart a United Nations flag, leaving you with the visual impression that these groups were somehow together, that somehow he was associated with those of us who were celebrating what freedom we have left on July 4th holiday.

00:06:19.000 We're going to actually show all the various newscasts, the reports of the Independence Day celebration here later on.

00:06:27.000 It's important to note here that the reporter who covered the Independence Day celebration, his name is Rich Parsons, and we tried to get a little interview with Rich Parsons, and I think Mike's got that queued up ready to go, and you can see what the reporters in our mainstream media are like.

00:06:46.000 Mike, do you have that ready?

00:06:48.000 Let's go ahead and roll that.

00:06:49.000 Oh, you don't have it yet.

00:06:51.000 Well, that's all right.

00:06:51.000 Rich Parsons, we tried to interview Rich Parsons, and of course...

00:06:54.000 He said that, and you'll see the tape here, that he doesn't answer questions he only asks them.

00:07:02.000 Unfortunately for most of us, he doesn't ask any of the real questions.

00:07:07.000 No fair, buddy.

00:07:08.000 No fair.

00:07:10.000 Also, too, many people, including Alex Jones, tried to call and complain to the producer of News 36. His name is Richard Collison.

00:07:17.000 I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly.

00:07:19.000 By the way, we're going to make Richard famous thanks to the way he responded or his lack of response to the complaints.

00:07:25.000 We're going to make Richard famous.

00:07:28.000 We're going to do that a couple of ways.

00:07:30.000 Number one, if you'd like to complain about this report that you're going to see here shortly, or, excuse me, later on in the newscast, Call that number, 476-2863.

00:07:40.000 Ask for Bruce Whitaker, the news director, and complain that you don't like the suspiciousness.

00:07:47.000 This is, of course, if you feel this way, I'm not telling you what to do, of course, but if you feel like that this was a poorly put together news story, call and tell them that.

00:07:55.000 If you're unhappy that they don't talk about the real issues like...

00:07:59.000 Like the Federal Reserve and how it's a total fiat money system.

00:08:02.000 If they don't talk about real issues like your rights that are supposed to be protected by the Constitution, not constitutional rights as people are so fond of saying, then complain.

00:08:12.000 Those are the people to complain to.

00:08:13.000 If they get enough complaints, tell them that you're not going to buy products from their advertisers, those sorts of things.

00:08:17.000 You can and will make a difference.

00:08:19.000 Now, I'm hearing that Mike might have that tape ready.

00:08:22.000 This is an interview I tried to get with, again, Rich Parsons of News 36. Let's go ahead with that tape.

00:08:32.000 Flag burning.

00:08:33.000 Flag burning, that is. 0.79

00:08:35.000 Here in a moment I'm going to try and get an interview with one of the local news reporters from NBC News 36 and ask him a few questions about the type of reporting they do.

00:08:44.000 Hi, I'm Steve Lane.

00:08:46.000 Do you have a few moments so you can maybe answer a few simple questions?

00:08:48.000 Oh, you can't answer any at all?

00:08:50.000 None.

00:08:51.000 I just wanted to ask you just the type of reporting you do.

00:08:57.000 Mainly about questions like why we haven't seen much reporting on the fact that you have to thumb scan to get your driver's license, that 25% of the public is going to have to give blood and urine samples to be able to get their driver's license.

00:09:08.000 That's documented in an executive order, and I'm just a little bit surprised by the lack of reporting in the mainstream media on subjects like this.

00:09:14.000 There's been documented evidence as far as FBI snipers firing on people running out of the back of the church there at Waco.

00:09:23.000 That was documented from a FLIR tape, which stands for Ford looking infrared radar, by the gentleman who invented FLIR technology.

00:09:32.000 He reviewed that tape and said that those were FBI snipers firing at many of the people that were trying to escape from the burning church there at Waco, and we have seen no mainstream news reports on that.

00:09:42.000 That was in a documentary that was put out that actually got nominated for an Academy Award.

00:09:47.000 Have you ever spoken in the newsroom about things like that or talked about reporting anything like that?

00:09:52.000 Sorry, I can't answer any questions.

00:09:54.000 If you heard about stuff like that, that do you think you might be interested in possibly looking into doing stories on things like that?

00:10:00.000 I'd suggest you call my news director.

00:10:01.000 Okay, what's his name so I can talk to him?

00:10:03.000 That would be excellent.

00:10:06.000 This is information that I think is important that needs to get out in order to maintain well-balanced stories.

00:10:14.000 We're not in a republic, we're in a dictatorship.

00:10:14.000 The War and Emergency Powers Act.

00:10:22.000 Over and out.

00:10:27.000 Being lied to on a daily basis.

00:10:30.000 I could go through a hundred examples for you, and I think I'll do that today.

00:10:34.000 When the hell are we going to show some courage to these bureaucrats and these criminals that enforce what they push?

00:10:43.000 Let's talk about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

00:10:46.000 A bunch of criminals.

00:10:49.000 Absolutely out of control.

00:10:50.000 A pack of liars.

00:10:52.000 A bunch of enforcers of slavery.

00:10:54.000 Let's talk about the FBI.

00:10:56.000 Anybody who stands up for what's right in the FBI is thrown out of the FBI.

00:11:01.000 Frederick Whitehurst, many others.

00:11:04.000 We've got good people like Ted Gunnarsson who left the FBI on good terms.

00:11:08.000 Senior agent of all of California.

00:11:11.000 He'll tell you flat out that they're lying to you, that they're manipulating you.

00:11:16.000 You cannot trust what you're hearing and what you're seeing.

00:11:20.000 This country is being de-industrialized as we speak, America.

00:11:24.000 And it's serious.

00:11:25.000 And it's something that people got to face up to.

00:11:28.000 Thank you.

00:11:32.000 People have to face up to the hard problems.

00:11:34.000 People have to face up to what it's going to take to get this country back on track.

00:11:39.000 And that's going to take people getting involved.

00:11:42.000 That's why I want to thank everybody that came out here for this 4th of July rally.

00:11:46.000 They know what the 4th of July is about.

00:11:48.000 It's about defiance of tyranny.

00:11:50.000 It's about not laying down on your belly like a bunch of jellyfish.

00:11:54.000 That's what freedom's about.

00:11:57.000 Freedom comes with a price tag with blood, sweat, and tears.

00:12:01.000 It comes with eternal...

00:12:03.000 Well, there you have it.

00:12:08.000 That was Rich Parsons of News 36. I believe their call letters are KXN. Rusty, will you tell everyone what you said to me?

00:12:15.000 How was he looking at me again?

00:12:16.000 He was looking at you like you were from Mars or something.

00:12:19.000 What do you mean the real news?

00:12:20.000 We don't have to do that, do we?

00:12:21.000 That might require some work or some research.

00:12:25.000 Checking into things.

00:12:26.000 Some real reporting.

00:12:27.000 It's just amazing to me.

00:12:28.000 People, basically, the news is all about ratings and sensationalism.

00:12:32.000 And I can't think of anything more sensational than the American government firing on its own people and murdering its own people.

00:12:40.000 I mean, we have the inventor of FLIR Technology reviewed that tape, said without a doubt, without a doubt, he holds patents on this technology.

00:12:49.000 That there are men firing automatic weapons at people running out of that burning church at Waco.

00:12:55.000 I mean, that is the most sensational story I can possibly think of.

00:13:00.000 Well, it was entirely too sensational for 60 Minutes because when they sent the story over to 60 Minutes, man, they got it back like a hot potato saying, due to the sensitive nature, we don't want anything to do with this story.

00:13:10.000 It was widely reported that there you'll see some of that FLIR footage.

00:13:16.000 Three-dimensional computer model of what we're talking about here, but it was widely reported that 60 Minutes was concerned about their contacts at the Department of Defense and other national government agencies that those contacts, that they would actually be cut off, but they wouldn't get the exclusive interviews anymore if they played this tape.

00:13:35.000 On 60 Minutes, on such a widely broadcast show such as 60 Minutes, there we're also seeing some of the congressional hearings on Waco.

00:13:43.000 I think it's important to note, too, that we're going to hear later on in the show the producer of KXN News 36, Richard Collison, I believe is his name, who we're going to do our very best to make these two people famous, this reporter and this producer.

00:13:56.000 Rich and Rich.

00:13:57.000 I'm going to get their pictures on the website.

00:14:01.000 So that now when they go to Subway downtown or some other store, people go, hey, I've seen you on access television.

00:14:06.000 You're that guy that butchered the news report on the Independence Day celebration that those nice freedom-loving Americans put on down at the Capitol building.

00:14:15.000 I think biased would be a better word.

00:14:17.000 I think it's highly suspicious.

00:14:18.000 Obviously, I have no physical evidence to support this, but I think it's highly unusual and highly suspicious that this gentleman who burnt the U.S. flag when he was down there a full three hours...

00:14:30.000 Before the scheduled start of our celebration, and it just so happens that a news crew is down there.

00:14:36.000 Now, I've heard of, and I'm not prepared to have enough evidence to set forth this kind of accusation towards KXAN, but I've heard of news agencies, and we've seen it on NBC at the highest level where they planted...

00:14:49.000 Ignition devices in the fuel tanks of pickup trucks, causing the trucks to explode to sensationalize their story.

00:14:56.000 It would not shock me if it turned out KXAN paid this gentleman or rounded this gentleman up and encouraged him to burn this US flag in an effort to put on this kind of so-called news story.

00:15:09.000 Well, Steve, I mean, whether he was someone's lackey, whether he was hired by someone or not, the way that they presented the story, I mean, it presents a falsehood.

00:15:19.000 It shows a falsehood.

00:15:20.000 This guy was there hours before any of us ever got there.

00:15:24.000 He did his thing, and then they very conveniently tagged that in with us.

00:15:29.000 Trying to make us look un-American.

00:15:30.000 That's just about as polar opposite as you can get from our point of view.

00:15:35.000 That's exactly right.

00:15:36.000 In fact, if I weren't so libertarian in nature, I would tend to say that I would go along with Louisiana's way of dealing with American flag burning.

00:15:43.000 And what they have is, in Louisiana, it's not against the law to burn a United States flag.

00:15:48.000 However...

00:15:49.000 If you beat up somebody who burns a United States flag, it's only like a $5 fine.

00:15:55.000 Oddly enough, they don't have much flag burning going on in Louisiana.

00:15:59.000 Politics has always been interesting in Louisiana.

00:16:01.000 Yes, very much so.

00:16:02.000 Now, I've just been informed that up next, we're going to show you some Capitol Police that ultimately they answer to DPS. They are part of DPS. They were surveilling the Independence Day celebration.

00:16:16.000 Apparently, it's just...

00:16:18.000 So evil now to wave American flags, the United States flags, and talk about...

00:16:22.000 ...going to push their agenda, and they're not going to stop their agenda.

00:16:26.000 And that's what I'm talking about.

00:16:28.000 That's what we're here dealing with.

00:16:30.000 Tell everybody to turn and wave to the car over there.

00:16:32.000 They're taking pictures.

00:16:34.000 Yeah, we're here.

00:16:35.000 We're getting some pictures taken on us.

00:16:36.000 Let's go see.

00:16:40.000 And they run off.

00:16:41.000 Hey, take your pictures.

00:16:42.000 We're not ashamed.

00:16:43.000 We're Americans.

00:16:45.000 Come on, take your pictures.

00:16:47.000 Drive off when I come over there.

00:16:49.000 All I'm out here doing is standing up for the damn constitution of this country.

00:16:53.000 You think there's something wrong with that?

00:16:55.000 You go ahead and run off surveillance car.

00:16:57.000 You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

00:16:58.000 by the way there was approximately I counted it at one point about 37 Capitol Police At the Capitol building.

00:17:18.000 And I went later on and talked to one of the Capitol Police and I asked him if there were state troopers from all over there.

00:17:24.000 And he said, oh no, it's just the Capitol Police.

00:17:26.000 And I said, what do you mean?

00:17:26.000 He said, oh, we're always here.

00:17:28.000 So apparently there's always about 37 Capitol Police.

00:17:31.000 At all times.

00:17:32.000 At all times.

00:17:33.000 Driving around everywhere, pacing nervously, driving.

00:17:38.000 There were actually two Capitol Police cars that I saw.

00:17:42.000 Surveilling us and maybe others but I don't want to get into that because they do like to divert your attention away from their actual surveillance cameras and I'm quite aware of that as many others and we make it a habit of not showing actually the real surveillance cameras.

00:17:56.000 I tend to think that that was just a bit of a decoy.

00:17:59.000 Also, two other quick things.

00:18:02.000 We saw Alex there later on in the show.

00:18:04.000 If we have some time, we're going to try and call Alex at KJFK live on the air and congratulate him because, again, I just think it's fantastic.

00:18:11.000 As far as I'm concerned, it's a giant leap forward for the freedom movement here in Austin to get a show like his on nightly on a mainstream station such as KJFK. Also, too, we're going to get to your calls.

00:18:25.000 Callers who are on the line, please hold.

00:18:28.000 Please be patient.

00:18:30.000 We've got a lot of information to get to.

00:18:31.000 We will get to your calls.

00:18:32.000 This is something that I'm going to actually talk to Mike about where hopefully we can segment a portion of the show where it's just all calls for, say, half an hour or something like that.

00:18:40.000 But that's something we'll have to get worked out.

00:18:42.000 We want to get as many calls as we can.

00:18:43.000 Can I go ahead and mention next week?

00:18:44.000 Certainly.

00:18:45.000 I want to go ahead and mention now, next week we have a gentleman by the name of Greg Cole coming on the show.

00:18:51.000 I've known Greg for many, many, many years, about 20...

00:18:56.000 I guess 26 years, we were just children when we met.

00:18:59.000 I've known Greg for many, many years.

00:19:01.000 He's a great guy.

00:19:02.000 He's very intelligent.

00:19:03.000 He is about the most expert that I know on computers.

00:19:09.000 Greg is the kind of guy, he just moved back here from Ireland.

00:19:11.000 He decides wherever he wants to go and whatever he wants to do, and then he lets the computer companies in that region know that he's there, and they all vie for him.

00:19:20.000 He must know what he's doing.

00:19:21.000 He's going to go over some of the Y2K. We're just going to do a real simple why it's happening, how it happened, and kind of take you through it like that, just step by step. 0.63

00:19:32.000 I know everybody's heard about the Y2K problem, the year 2000 computer shutdown problem.

00:19:38.000 We're going to try to lay it out very simply and explain it to you and then take calls on your questions.

00:19:43.000 Now, that's next week on the Freedom Report at 7 o'clock.

00:19:47.000 I believe you that you were a kid 26 years ago.

00:19:50.000 I'm still a kid.

00:19:51.000 I'm a big kid.

00:19:52.000 And this is important to you real quick.

00:19:53.000 I was a big kid then.

00:19:54.000 This month's Downsized Government Conference is going to be centered around year 2000 computer problems.

00:19:59.000 We're going to have, among other people, I'm embarrassed that I've forgotten his name, but anyways, he owns Cafe Zam Computers.

00:20:05.000 I asked him in a chat room one night if he'd come and be a speaker.

00:20:08.000 And I'm also going to try and get another gentleman who puts out a newsletter.

00:20:12.000 He calls himself the Y2K Weatherman.

00:20:15.000 Wow.

00:20:15.000 And he says that this is the way we need to think of year 2000 computer problems is the way you'd look at a weather forecast.

00:20:21.000 If you think there might be rain, you take an umbrella with you.

00:20:23.000 You may not need the umbrella, but it's a good idea to have it to keep from getting wet, and that's the way he looks at it.

00:20:28.000 It is a serious issue.

00:20:29.000 It's not something that should be taken lightly.

00:20:31.000 I don't believe it's something that's going to cause mass hysteria, but the potential is there, and I think we need to be prepared for it.

00:20:36.000 So the Downsized Government Conference is, of course, the last Sunday of every month.

00:20:41.000 At the Chariot Inn at 7300 North IH 35. If you want more details on that, you can either call the comment line or you can call 703-6767 or you can email me at slainatmoment.net or check out our website at downsize.ml.org.

00:20:58.000 Now, quickly, we're going to get to the footage of Mr. Jones and others slashing to bits, a United Nations flag, which I think is an important step for all of us to take to renounce.

00:21:09.000 The U.N. We need to get the United States out of the U.N. as quickly as we can and unburden ourselves with that feeling.

00:21:20.000 Burn band.

00:21:26.000 After this song, we're going to shred this U.N. flag since there's a burn band.

00:21:31.000 Want to get a little bit of desecration flag. 0.66

00:21:36.000 That's an accursed symbol.

00:21:37.000 We need somebody to come hold this flag when we shred it.

00:21:45.000 Hold it.

00:21:51.000 We say to tyranny in the United Nations, death to the new world order!

00:22:00.000 Death's the idea of losing our sovereignty.

00:22:02.000 We don't like this flag and we're sick and tired of it.

00:22:06.000 We stand for this country and we will defend it.

00:22:09.000 The United Nations is a tyrannical, authoritarian propaganda arm and military arm of international control.

00:22:17.000 And to it, we refuse to submit.

00:22:20.000 That's all that's going to be left of the U.N. if they keep pushing their lives.

00:22:23.000 The loss of U.S. sovereignty has gone too far.

00:22:30.000 We're fixing to get another one.

00:22:31.000 Where's Jeff Davis at?

00:22:38.000 Death of a new world order.

00:22:46.000 Right there, baby.

00:22:48.000 Yes!

00:22:50.000 Tyranny's going down, baby! 0.98

00:22:52.000 We know what the U.N. stands for.

00:22:53.000 We're not going to stand for global tyranny.

00:22:56.000 Yes!

00:22:57.000 What a pleasure to burn that accursed cymbals!

00:23:11.000 What an absolute pleasure to shred that rag!

00:23:14.000 That filthy rag!

00:23:16.000 That United Nations!

00:23:17.000 I think it's important to note from that footage, of course it's fantastic footage, I love seeing the UN flag just torn to shreds.

00:23:28.000 It doesn't deserve to be burned.

00:23:29.000 Again, I said earlier, burning a flag is a fitting end to a...

00:23:33.000 A flag that you revere, that you retire.

00:23:36.000 That's the appropriate thing to do in the course of an American flag.

00:23:38.000 If it becomes tattered, it's appropriate to burn it.

00:23:41.000 That is the way you retire an old flag.

00:23:43.000 So I think it actually turned out better that we didn't burn the UN flag, that we hacked it to bits.

00:23:47.000 You'll notice, too, that we participated in something that was very lawful.

00:23:55.000 This gentleman that went down and burned a U.S. flag, he broke the law that day.

00:23:59.000 And even though we stand up for U.S. sovereignty, I think it's important to note that that entire time we obeyed the law.

00:24:09.000 Absolutely.

00:24:10.000 I mean, there was a burn ban on.

00:24:11.000 It had been raining all morning, but officially there was still a burn ban on.

00:24:15.000 So we obeyed the law.

00:24:17.000 We didn't burn the flag.

00:24:19.000 We tried to desecrate it.

00:24:21.000 I don't think there's any way you could desecrate the U.N. flag enough to make me happy.

00:24:24.000 Desecration also invokes a religious nature to something when you look at the definition.

00:24:29.000 So I think, again, I don't think desecration is an appropriate term to use with regards to the U.N. flag.

00:24:35.000 They think it's a religion.

00:24:36.000 I certainly don't.

00:24:37.000 Well, environmentalism, we've seen how the U.N. uses environmentalism as a new world religion, and that's really what they do.

00:24:43.000 They're doing it all over the planet right now.

00:24:46.000 It's an age-old idea.

00:24:48.000 It used to be you used actual religion to control masses of people. 0.93

00:24:53.000 Now, environmentalism is the new world religion.

00:24:55.000 We tell people that if you don't do certain things, if you don't give up your land, you don't give up your property rights, you don't give up your personal rights, that the sun won't come back and the rivers will run red with blood and the sky will fall and everything will just come crumbling down.

00:25:10.000 And this is a tool that's used by the real elite.

00:25:13.000 We're not talking about city council members and county commissioners.

00:25:17.000 Those aren't elite.

00:25:18.000 Those are just wannabes. 0.96

00:25:19.000 We're talking about the elite people you will never hear of.

00:25:22.000 You'll never hear their names.

00:25:23.000 You'll never see their faces.

00:25:25.000 Those people will use things like the United Nations and environmentalism to manipulate the masses into command and control structures. 0.94

00:25:32.000 We see it all the time, and it's happening all around us.

00:25:34.000 Absolutely, and they back the biggest environmental groups.

00:25:38.000 I mean, some of these people think that they're really, really doing the right thing, but all the money for the Nature Conservancy, the Prince's Trust, the National Wildlife Fund.

00:25:52.000 All these things come from elitist bucks.

00:25:54.000 These things are financed by elitist bucks.

00:25:56.000 Of course, they use most of their money in advertising to get you to give more of your hard-earned dollars so they can create nice little turn our parks into nice little UN biosphere, Steve.

00:26:08.000 They're biospheres now.

00:26:09.000 We have to have a buffer zone around them also, so we have to buy up all that land.

00:26:13.000 Of course.

00:26:14.000 And I think it's important to note, too, that myself, anyway, I'm of the opinion, particularly here locally, when we saw the $65 million land grab that the city did, or buying the rights to development.

00:26:25.000 Are you talking about the Brody track?

00:26:27.000 Exactly.

00:26:30.000 With that being recently passed, I think it's important to know if these individuals would just be true leaders and stand up and say, we want to buy this land because we want to drive development downtown where we can more heavily regulate, where we can...

00:26:45.000 Have the tax money because out in those outlying areas, see, they wouldn't get the tax benefits from out there.

00:26:51.000 They wouldn't get the control that they get downtown.

00:26:53.000 I just wish once these leaders would just tell you the truth to your face and say that the reason we bought the development rights is we want the development to occur downtown where we can tax it left and right.

00:27:03.000 If they would just stand up and tell the truth about it.

00:27:06.000 I mean, we hear this on radio stations all over, that if these people would just stand up and tell the truth, you could at least respect them.

00:27:12.000 And I'll talk about that later on.

00:27:14.000 I heard on a talk radio program today that one of the district attorneys, little minions, came out and said that you don't have a right to socialize, that the Supreme Court has ruled that you don't have a right to socialize.

00:27:27.000 You only have a right to be with your family and to get with others to petition the government for redress of grievances.

00:27:33.000 But again, speaking of rights being taken away, I noticed you got an article there about young people's right to travel.

00:27:42.000 Young people's right to travel.

00:27:44.000 Here's an article from the July 1st, Austin American Statesman.

00:27:53.000 It's about tobacco.

00:27:54.000 It shows the new billboard.

00:27:56.000 The picture here says, if you're under 18, tobacco has serious side effects.

00:28:00.000 And it shows a kid's driver's license.

00:28:02.000 You can't really see it down here, but it shows a kid's driver's license with suspended...

00:28:05.000 Oh, there it is.

00:28:06.000 There it is.

00:28:06.000 There we go.

00:28:07.000 Suspended written across it.

00:28:08.000 If you're under 18, tobacco has serious side effects.

00:28:11.000 Well, it sure does.

00:28:12.000 They're trying to make it illegal like drugs. 0.58

00:28:17.000 And don't misunderstand me.

00:28:19.000 Tobacco is not a...

00:28:20.000 I don't...

00:28:20.000 I don't promote the use of tobacco, although I myself am a smoker.

00:28:26.000 What can you say after that?

00:28:27.000 Yeah, I'm dumb.

00:28:29.000 I'm still smoking.

00:28:30.000 Not as much as I used to, though.

00:28:32.000 You want to hear some more platitudes?

00:28:33.000 Hold on.

00:28:35.000 I don't promote tobacco smoking, especially for young people.

00:28:38.000 I mean, tobacco's bad for you.

00:28:40.000 Young, old, in between, male, female, it doesn't matter.

00:28:43.000 It's bad for you.

00:28:44.000 But when they've been so heavily marketing...

00:28:49.000 To the younger audiences.

00:28:50.000 And I mean, you know, the Joe Camel and all that.

00:28:52.000 That's true.

00:28:53.000 These are all aimed in their own document show.

00:28:56.000 They're all aimed at kids 12 to 18. All this marketing was aimed at those kids.

00:29:01.000 Well, now that they've started smoking, hey, I know, let's restrict their right to travel. 0.64

00:29:07.000 Let's say that if they get caught with tobacco products and they're under 18, well, then they have to give up their driver's license and they can no longer freely travel about it.

00:29:16.000 Without ID, without a driver's license, you know, as you well know, you can't cash a check, you not only can't travel, there's a lot of things you can't do without a driver's license.

00:29:24.000 But I'm a little confused.

00:29:25.000 I always hear the term privilege, though.

00:29:26.000 I thought driving was a privilege.

00:29:28.000 That's what we're told by our government, various governmental systems.

00:29:31.000 Driving's not a ride, it's a privilege.

00:29:33.000 Well, all the bureaucrats will tell you that everything is a privilege.

00:29:36.000 I mean, we're so lucky to have them.

00:29:37.000 If you ask them, they'll tell you that, Steve.

00:29:39.000 Yes, and as a matter of fact, I pointed out about 15 different wonderful things that our federal government does to protect us from the time you...

00:29:47.000 Wake up in the morning until the time you drive down the road.

00:29:50.000 In your speech on the 4th of July.

00:29:51.000 I like that.

00:29:52.000 That was great.

00:29:53.000 I would like to see that.

00:29:54.000 I really enjoyed that.

00:29:55.000 For a lot of people who don't know, and this is a fact, I'm in the building industry, and this is an absolute fact.

00:30:01.000 You can go down and ask any builder.

00:30:03.000 Call Bill Milburn tomorrow.

00:30:04.000 Call whoever you want.

00:30:06.000 For those of you who don't know, you can no longer have a five-gallon flush toilet.

00:30:10.000 It's actually an old law.

00:30:13.000 If you go and purchase a new toilet, every single one of them is a 1.6 gallon tank or less.

00:30:18.000 Because the federal government decided that five-gallon toilets are a thing of the past.

00:30:23.000 That's way too much water.

00:30:25.000 It would be wasteful.

00:30:27.000 They just decided that, hey, we don't need this anymore.

00:30:29.000 We'll go to 1.6-gallon flush toilets.

00:30:32.000 They've also restricted the flow in your shower heads.

00:30:34.000 So your federal government is protecting you from your own excrement.

00:30:38.000 This is the point I've tried to make.

00:30:39.000 I mean, this is where they're spending our hard-earned tax money, making sure that you're...

00:30:46.000 Your business doesn't get flushed down the drain properly, because that's ultimately what happens.

00:30:50.000 Or regulating us into oblivion, if you want to look at it.

00:30:51.000 That's right.

00:30:51.000 That's kind of how I look at it.

00:30:53.000 That's right.

00:30:54.000 I think we've got...

00:30:55.000 Callers, hang on.

00:30:56.000 We're going to get to your calls.

00:30:57.000 We're going to get to your calls.

00:30:57.000 Matter of fact, if it's all right, I'm going to go ahead and go to a few calls right now.

00:31:00.000 Let's go.

00:31:02.000 Caller, you're on the air.

00:31:04.000 Oh, wait.

00:31:06.000 Yep?

00:31:06.000 Caller, you're on the air.

00:31:08.000 Am I? Can you hear us?

00:31:09.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:31:09.000 I'm on the air.

00:31:10.000 You're on the air.

00:31:11.000 Oh, wow.

00:31:12.000 You have a question?

00:31:13.000 No.

00:31:14.000 Do you have a comment?

00:31:17.000 Thanks for calling.

00:31:18.000 Okay, we'll bring up another caller.

00:31:19.000 I'm a little bit new to this, so I'm learning to work around the buttons here.

00:31:24.000 We've got to wait until we get a green line.

00:31:25.000 Okay, actually, Mike didn't have the phones quite ready yet.

00:31:29.000 We're going to bring up the next piece on this.

00:31:33.000 It's very popular right now.

00:31:34.000 There's a lot of talk.

00:31:37.000 There's a big buzz going on in Austin right now about what District Attorney Ronnie Earle is trying to do to our Constitution.

00:31:44.000 He believes that you have constitutional rights, which I think is very interesting because I have a copy of the Constitution.

00:31:52.000 Actually, I forgot to bring it today.

00:31:53.000 It's on my dresser drawer.

00:31:55.000 But I have thoroughly looked through the Constitution.

00:31:58.000 I see nothing in there that grants you rights.

00:32:01.000 You have rights that are endowed to you by your Creator, and that the Constitution was designed to protect those rights.

00:32:08.000 Those rights are unalienable, not inalienable, unalienable.

00:32:12.000 And that's a very important distinction to make.

00:32:14.000 They cannot be changed.

00:32:15.000 You have those rights, whether you choose to exercise them or not.

00:32:18.000 No piece of paper grants you those rights.

00:32:19.000 No person.

00:32:21.000 But we see there, and I think it's important to make a distinction here, too.

00:32:24.000 A lot of people are talking about these gang members' rights.

00:32:28.000 To me, this issue surrounding these eight alleged gang members, this issue is about your rights.

00:32:35.000 It's not about the rights of these gang members.

00:32:37.000 And for those of you who don't know, let me bring you up to speed.

00:32:40.000 These eight individuals that you see their pictures there on the screen as reported in the Austin American Statesman on Friday, July 3rd, are alleged gang members.

00:32:51.000 Now, I make that distinction because, interestingly enough, through all the reports that I've read, and I heard one of the district attorney's minions on the radio today, everything that I've read, seen, and heard, not a single one of these individuals has been convicted.

00:33:06.000 Of any of the things that they have been alleged to have partaken in.

00:33:11.000 There's been all kinds of accusations made.

00:33:13.000 It's all about supposition.

00:33:15.000 It's all about guess.

00:33:16.000 It's all about rumor.

00:33:18.000 None of this has been proven.

00:33:20.000 They have been arrested.

00:33:22.000 Several have been arrested on multiple occasions.

00:33:24.000 But again, I have heard nothing about any convictions.

00:33:28.000 And we do live in a society, thank God, where the burden of proof rests with your accuser.

00:33:34.000 So far.

00:33:35.000 And I heard that district attorney's minion on today, on the news, which, by the way, his name's over there in my briefcase.

00:33:41.000 I'll have to get it here shortly.

00:33:43.000 He got on, and he said that the reason they've decided to go forward with these civil injunctions, and this is not a joke.

00:33:50.000 I'm not exaggerating this.

00:33:51.000 He says it's too hard to prove that they're committing crimes.

00:33:57.000 It's too difficult.

00:33:58.000 The burden of proof is too difficult.

00:34:01.000 So that they're going to civil injunctions because it's much easier to get punishment through the civil courts than it is through the criminal courts.

00:34:09.000 I wonder why that is, sir.

00:34:11.000 I wonder why that is.

00:34:13.000 But let me tell you what's going on here.

00:34:15.000 These eight people are alleged gang members.

00:34:17.000 They're alleged to have committed many crimes.

00:34:20.000 And who is it that's alleging this?

00:34:22.000 According to that district attorney's minion, he said that it came from some neighborhood meetings that they attended.

00:34:30.000 Some other citizens accusing these people.

00:34:33.000 They didn't go down to the police station apparently or file any formal complaints.

00:34:38.000 They just said in a neighborhood meeting, these are bad kids and they're gang members and they're bothering me.

00:34:43.000 So then the gang task force got involved and started documenting this alleged behavior.

00:34:51.000 And they signed affidavits.

00:34:53.000 These drug task force agents signed affidavits.

00:34:56.000 And they're using strictly those affidavits and the comments from the neighborhood meetings to file injunctions against these eight people.

00:35:05.000 The injunctions are to get them declared a public nuisance.

00:35:09.000 And once they are declared a public nuisance, there will be roughly 17 prohibited activities.

00:35:14.000 That is...

00:35:16.000 The district attorney is saying that they will be prohibited from participating in 17 different activities.

00:35:22.000 Among them, and let me read verbatim from the Austin American Statesman article here, and this has been confirmed through what the district attorney said on the radio today, that the petition seeks to prevent them from congregating in groups of two or more in a specified area.

00:35:38.000 Among the 17 prohibited activities are standing, sitting, walking, driving, gathering, or appearing in public.

00:35:45.000 With another one of the eight or with any other known member of the gang in which they allegedly belong.

00:35:52.000 Golly, even the statesman got the alleged part, right?

00:35:55.000 They cannot possess, use, deliver narcotics or drug paraphernalia.

00:35:59.000 Of course, it's already against the law.

00:36:01.000 Hopefully not.

00:36:02.000 They cannot possess pagers or beepers in public.

00:36:05.000 This is another prohibited activity.

00:36:07.000 No communication devices.

00:36:08.000 That's right.

00:36:09.000 Just for alleged activity.

00:36:12.000 None of this, again, no convictions.

00:36:14.000 They haven't gone before a jury, nothing.

00:36:15.000 You mean alleged activity for these suspects?

00:36:19.000 For these eight people, that's right.

00:36:20.000 They cannot communicate with anyone in a vehicle.

00:36:24.000 Did you hear what I just said?

00:36:25.000 They cannot communicate with anyone in a vehicle.

00:36:27.000 Now, communicate, that could be...

00:36:29.000 A wave.

00:36:30.000 That's a communication.

00:36:32.000 A nod.

00:36:32.000 You knew that.

00:36:32.000 That's right.

00:36:33.000 Wink.

00:36:34.000 Can't wink with anyone in a car now.

00:36:37.000 They can't obstruct traffic, which, of course, that's against the law anyway.

00:36:41.000 Use gang hand signs.

00:36:44.000 Are those some?

00:36:45.000 I don't know.

00:36:46.000 That's a good question.

00:36:48.000 What is a gang hand symbol?

00:36:50.000 Maybe this is a gang hand symbol.

00:36:51.000 Saluting the flag.

00:36:52.000 Yeah, anything they do could be misconstrued as communicating.

00:36:55.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:36:56.000 And this is where I'm going with this.

00:36:58.000 What constitutes a gang?

00:37:00.000 What constitutes a gang symbol?

00:37:02.000 You know, for a short time, I always tell people I wasn't in the military, I was in the Air Force.

00:37:06.000 And when I was in the Air Force, I had to salute the flag.

00:37:08.000 Now you tell me, maybe that's a gang symbol.

00:37:12.000 Maybe a good salute is a gang symbol.

00:37:14.000 What about the colors?

00:37:15.000 We all wore green.

00:37:16.000 We all wore BDUs.

00:37:18.000 Maybe those could be construed as gang colors.

00:37:21.000 I mean, there's no legal definition of any of this stuff, and that's where I'm concerned where a lot of this is going.

00:37:26.000 I'm not talking about these alleged gang members' rights.

00:37:29.000 I'm talking about your rights.

00:37:30.000 This deals with your rights.

00:37:32.000 They can't use abusive language?

00:37:34.000 Damn.

00:37:36.000 They can't use abusive language.

00:37:38.000 They can't threaten, harass, or intimidate people, of course.

00:37:42.000 Again, that's already against the law.

00:37:44.000 Or prevent others from complaining to the police.

00:37:46.000 The injunction would also prohibit them from going to, I believe it's three specifically named convenience stores.

00:37:56.000 This is absolutely amazing to me.

00:37:58.000 And on this radio program that I listened to today, that district attorney's spokesperson, whatever it was, went so far as to say...

00:38:06.000 And I'm going to get you this audio tape.

00:38:08.000 I'm going to get with Shannon Burke.

00:38:09.000 It was his show.

00:38:10.000 And try and get a copy of this audio tape and put it on our website at downsize.ml.org.

00:38:15.000 Real audio.

00:38:16.000 I'm going to try and put that on here and try and play it on this show, The Freedom Report, next week.

00:38:19.000 He said, at least he came out and said it, that you don't have a right to socialize.

00:38:27.000 He said you only have a right to be with your family members and to get with others to petition the government for a redress of your grievances.

00:38:34.000 And you know how he came to this conclusion?

00:38:36.000 He said the Supreme Court ruled this way.

00:38:39.000 Well, I had a question for him, and I wish they would have put calls through to him because I would have asked him.

00:38:43.000 You tell me, sir, where does it say in the Constitution that the Supreme Court has the right or the legal authority to rule on anything?

00:38:53.000 It's not in there because they don't have that right.

00:38:56.000 Sir, we live in a republic.

00:38:58.000 The Constitution that I have read says that we are guaranteed a republican form of government.

00:39:03.000 Now, that's not Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative.

00:39:07.000 That is a specific form of government.

00:39:10.000 And among other things with that specific form of government, the only people that gets to decide what's constitutional or not, or how the Constitution is interpreted, is you and I, the governed.

00:39:20.000 That's what part of a republic is all about.

00:39:22.000 It is a government that governs with the consent of the governed.

00:39:27.000 And the governed get to decide.

00:39:29.000 They get to pick and choose how the Constitution is to be interpreted.

00:39:32.000 And how do they get to pick and choose that?

00:39:34.000 I can hear the skeptics right now.

00:39:35.000 Steve, how do you propose you do this?

00:39:37.000 That's why we have the jury system. 1.00

00:39:40.000 Juries are supposed to decide.

00:39:42.000 That's one of the checks and balances on the powers of the governments.

00:39:44.000 If there's a law that the jury feels is unconstitutional, they can overrule a judge.

00:39:50.000 They can overrule...

00:39:52.000 Legislators.

00:39:53.000 They can overrule governors.

00:39:55.000 They are the sovereign.

00:39:56.000 They are the most powerful people in a sovereign, republican form of government.

00:40:03.000 They are the sovereigns.

00:40:04.000 They are the kings.

00:40:05.000 They get to decide how that constitution is to be interpreted.

00:40:09.000 Not Supreme Court justices.

00:40:11.000 But, of course, he's not going to know that because he was taught law from a bar association.

00:40:17.000 He was taught law from a law school.

00:40:20.000 Who kowtow to the bar associations, and we all know from people like R.C. Crawford how corrupt that system is, how corrupt our legal system is, that you can't sue these people anymore.

00:40:30.000 They claim sovereign immunity and all sorts of other things, which we ought to try and get him to be a guest on the show.

00:40:36.000 He spells it out in very plain language.

00:40:38.000 So I say to that person, I say to Ronnie Earle, We have rights as a result of our Creator.

00:40:43.000 We are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.

00:40:47.000 No piece of paper can give those to us, nor take them away.

00:40:50.000 No Supreme Court justice.

00:40:52.000 No person can take those away.

00:40:54.000 So you, sir, are wrong.

00:40:56.000 The Supreme Court can rule whatever they want, but I rule the Supreme Court.

00:41:00.000 Rusty rules the Supreme Court.

00:41:02.000 Mike Hansen rules the Supreme Court.

00:41:03.000 These alleged gang members, as long as they're not participating in illegal activities, get to rule over the Supreme Court.

00:41:11.000 That's what the facts are.

00:41:13.000 You, sir, go home and read your Constitution and study it carefully, because obviously it means nothing to him or any of these people, but at least they have the guts to come out and say it.

00:41:22.000 You don't have a right to socialize people.

00:41:24.000 It's out there in your face now.

00:41:26.000 You can't deny it.

00:41:27.000 Well, now, Steve, I have a question.

00:41:29.000 You don't have a right to socialize?

00:41:32.000 Let's see, you only have a right to gather with your family or to redress grievances?

00:41:38.000 That's what the Supreme Court justices have ruled in case law.

00:41:44.000 Apparently there are rulers.

00:41:45.000 What's the first thing you noticed that was missing?

00:41:48.000 So we have no right to gather in church?

00:41:50.000 Very interesting.

00:41:51.000 We have no right to gather in church.

00:41:53.000 If we're Catholic, we have no right to gather at the Catholic Church.

00:41:57.000 If we're Baptist, we have no right to gather there, Pentecostal, whatever you happen to be.

00:42:01.000 You have no right to gather.

00:42:03.000 Wouldn't that be social?

00:42:05.000 Wouldn't that be...

00:42:06.000 I mean, that's religion, I understand, but...

00:42:09.000 I'd like to know what you think.

00:42:11.000 If it's alright, we've got some calls here ready.

00:42:13.000 I'd like to take some quick calls on this issue.

00:42:16.000 This is a hot-button issue right now.

00:42:19.000 Can't do it.

00:42:22.000 Can't do it.

00:42:22.000 I know, can't do it.

00:42:25.000 Caller, you're on the air.

00:42:26.000 Go ahead.

00:42:29.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:42:35.000 I'm not sure what you mean by that.

00:42:42.000 You think it's okay for the federal government to regulate how much water is held in the tank of your toilet?

00:42:49.000 I'm curious about that.

00:42:50.000 I don't know if he hung up or what, but apparently we've lost that caller.

00:42:54.000 Let me bring up our next caller.

00:42:57.000 Caller, go ahead.

00:42:59.000 Love your show.

00:43:00.000 I've seen you at the Texas Best Seminars a couple times.

00:43:03.000 Thank you.

00:43:04.000 And I think this is real empowering to watch your show.

00:43:08.000 You guys see a lot of good things, a lot of good things that are based on documentable proof, on facts and not on fear and emotion and things that we see on the other side.

00:43:18.000 I'm originally from Atlanta, and we don't get much of the libertarian movement out there.

00:43:23.000 At least we don't hear much about it, because the mainstream press won't say much about it.

00:43:27.000 But let me tell you something.

00:43:28.000 I've talked to people here in Texas and in Atlanta, Georgia, and they may not call themselves libertarian, but they sure do agree with maybe 99.99% of it.

00:43:40.000 They just don't know exactly what libertarianism is.

00:43:42.000 Oh, let's face it.

00:43:43.000 The hardest part, I think, for people to swallow, including myself, is...

00:43:47.000 Is the Libertarian Party's stance on drugs.

00:43:51.000 I think it's been a sticky situation for them.

00:43:54.000 I think to be a true die-hard Libertarian, you do have to recognize that there's a lot of things in our society that can be dangerous.

00:44:04.000 You know, gasoline can be dangerous if it's used improperly.

00:44:08.000 There's all sorts of household chemicals that can be dangerous.

00:44:11.000 We've seen what fertilizer, we know what fertilizer can do if it's misused.

00:44:17.000 I think to be truly libertarian, you have to be willing to say, well, are we willing to go so far as to say, well, drugs should be illegal?

00:44:24.000 I mean, drugs, it's the abuse of drugs that's the problem.

00:44:27.000 Drugs can be used for good things.

00:44:28.000 For the longest time, there were types of cocaine that were used to help numb your mouth when they would do oral surgery, things of that nature.

00:44:36.000 And I think it's difficult to...

00:44:39.000 It's a sticky situation.

00:44:40.000 It is for me, too.

00:44:41.000 I'm not sure that I'm willing to say that we should decriminalize drugs.

00:44:45.000 I like to say that most of my beliefs fall in line with those of the libertarian platform and what libertarians espouse.

00:44:51.000 The idea that, hey, you're free to do what you want as long as you don't infringe on your neighbor's rights or anyone else's rights.

00:44:57.000 But it is tough.

00:44:58.000 I'm going to bring up a couple other things.

00:44:59.000 What's that?

00:45:01.000 I'm not quite sure.

00:45:02.000 The executive order, I think it's 13086 federalism.

00:45:06.000 Federalism, I read it.

00:45:07.000 Have you been reading about that?

00:45:08.000 Yes, there is a buzz, the likes of which I've never seen on the Internet right now.

00:45:13.000 Well, as a result of that, sorry to interrupt, but as a result of that, the White House has been catching so much flack.

00:45:19.000 You go to the White House webpage now and search for that executive order, and it won't exist.

00:45:24.000 It's not even there.

00:45:26.000 You know, what's interesting about that is a couple weeks ago, I first got that executive order through an email.

00:45:30.000 And by the way, we want to get to some other callers, so I'm going to let you go here and answer your question.

00:45:34.000 Thanks for calling.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, thanks a lot.

00:45:37.000 I went to the White House website a couple weeks ago because I actually got emailed that executive order, and I'm always really suspicious oftentimes of things on the internet unless I pull it from the actual site.

00:45:47.000 So for example, if there's an executive order, I tend not to believe it until I actually get it from the White House website.

00:45:53.000 Or some other governmental website.

00:45:55.000 If somebody just emails it to me, I'm somewhat suspicious.

00:45:58.000 But somebody emailed me that executive order.

00:46:01.000 I went to the White House website, and it was one of the top three little highlighted, like, oh, this is the really hot news right now, things on the White House website.

00:46:10.000 So I think it's pretty interesting that you say that now you can't even get it off the White House website.

00:46:16.000 Mike was queuing up some tape there.

00:46:19.000 There was an article in the, I believe it's called the Capital Times, about Comptroller John Sharp, and he's talking about safety in school.

00:46:30.000 I'm just going to get through this real quick here, that among other things in this special report that John Sharp is backing and asking schools to partake in, that some of the specific proposals In the program that he's touting are unannounced locker inspections for children in our schools,

00:46:53.000 fenced playgrounds, alarm systems, closed secondary campuses to increase school security, all in the name of security.

00:47:01.000 And what's the problem with this?

00:47:03.000 I hear a lot of skeptics out there and they say, Steve, you know, schools can be a dangerous place nowadays.

00:47:10.000 There's people with guns, there's kids with guns coming to school, there's adults.

00:47:15.000 With guns coming to school.

00:47:16.000 We need police in our schools to keep our children safe.

00:47:20.000 We need to do these random searches to keep our children safe.

00:47:24.000 In my mind, this is a knee-jerk reaction.

00:47:27.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:47:28.000 I look at the long term.

00:47:30.000 You're right.

00:47:31.000 In the short term, it might be a little bit safer for these kids.

00:47:35.000 In the very, very short term.

00:47:37.000 But number one, who's to protect these kids from the police?

00:47:41.000 Number two, kids grow up and be what?

00:47:46.000 Adults.

00:47:46.000 I'll give you the perfect example.

00:47:48.000 There's a young man I work with, very bright, very intelligent, getting ready to go off to college.

00:47:54.000 He went to Lake Travis High School and he told me, Steve, what's the big deal?

00:47:58.000 I've always had a policeman and a drug dog at my school.

00:48:01.000 Now, what concerns me there is just that attitude.

00:48:04.000 If these kids grow up seeing police everywhere, I mean, just every hundred feet or so, if they're used to the police going through their personal items, if they're used to cameras like you're seeing on the screen there, if they're used to dogs sniffing their things, if they're used to people randomly going through their items, their personal items, what kind of adults are they going to make?

00:48:28.000 What happens when they own a house?

00:48:31.000 Or rent an apartment.

00:48:32.000 And a sheriff stands up and says, the drug war, it's so out of control now, we have to do door-to-door searches.

00:48:38.000 And I hear people going, Steve, come on.

00:48:40.000 That's ridiculous.

00:48:41.000 But you know what?

00:48:42.000 20 years ago, if you just stood up and said, we need police in our schools and drug dogs and random locker searches, you'd have been a fool.

00:48:50.000 People would have laughed at you.

00:48:51.000 They just said, that's ridiculous.

00:48:53.000 There's no need for that.

00:48:55.000 Our kids are safe.

00:48:57.000 There's no problem with that.

00:48:57.000 Now, it's in vogue.

00:48:59.000 Now, hell, you could practically get elected off of it.

00:49:02.000 You could run for office based on the fact that you want to stick a cop in every school.

00:49:05.000 I mean, we go and beg.

00:49:07.000 We saw our county sheriff, which she's actually done some things that I agree with, but we've seen her down at commissioner's court begging for federal dollars to put sheriffs in high schools, which is just another problem all on its own. 0.52

00:49:20.000 You could spend hours and hours just on that, the kind of federal control.

00:49:23.000 And I just think we're playing a dangerous game with this knee-jerk reaction.

00:49:27.000 To get kids used to having police everywhere, used to having their things gone through, used to seeing military-style police, used to having drug dogs going through their stuff, random searches.

00:49:37.000 Conditioning.

00:49:37.000 What kind of adults are they going to make?

00:49:39.000 Conditioning.

00:49:39.000 I mean, it's a conditioning thing.

00:49:43.000 They're conditioning them so when they are adults and they have their own places, when the forces that be roll up with their dogs and their machine guns and everything, it's no big deal.

00:49:52.000 Oh, hi, come on in.

00:49:53.000 Yeah, no problem.

00:49:55.000 You don't need rights.

00:49:56.000 We'll take care of you.

00:49:57.000 Don't worry about that.

00:49:58.000 We'll take care of everything.

00:49:59.000 You don't need rights.

00:50:00.000 And that's what scares me is that they're going to grow up as adults and they're not going to see a problem with this because they're not taught the Constitution anymore.

00:50:08.000 They're not taught that we're guaranteed a Republican form of government.

00:50:11.000 What are they taught?

00:50:11.000 They're taught you in class.

00:50:13.000 We've documented that.

00:50:14.000 I went down with Alex Jones to...

00:50:16.000 To the University of Texas campus, and we documented the Model United Nations Club, how they have their little get-together, and people actually stood up and advocated having a United Nations class in school.

00:50:28.000 I say, hey, how about having a class on America first, or the Constitution, before we start talking about United Nations and globalism?

00:50:36.000 Steve, I've got to tell you, one of the things that bothers me the most is they're basically being trained to not ask questions.

00:50:42.000 That's right.

00:50:43.000 Here is your work assignment.

00:50:45.000 Well, what about, hey, hey, hey, hey, do your work.

00:50:47.000 Just do your work.

00:50:49.000 I mean, I have several stories.

00:50:51.000 I have several stories from local high schools about people asking questions, students asking questions and being basically either embarrassed in front of their peers so that they won't speak up anymore or being told that that's not in our lesson.

00:51:06.000 I mean, whatever happened to asking questions, whatever happened to an inquiring mind, that's a growing, learning mind.

00:51:12.000 An inquiring mind, an inquisitive mind is a good, healthy thing.

00:51:16.000 If I was a teacher, if I was a real teacher, man, I'd get real excited if my students started asking questions.

00:51:22.000 That would mean that I am doing my job.

00:51:25.000 You're inspiring.

00:51:26.000 I'm doing it well.

00:51:26.000 I'm inspiring them to ask, to dig, to know.

00:51:29.000 To formulate their own opinions.

00:51:30.000 We need to learn.

00:51:30.000 We need to get to the 24KI, all them pieces.

00:51:35.000 I think it's important to note, too, I think it's important to note a good distinction that you had there.

00:51:41.000 That what's going on here is you said something about these kids being conditioned.

00:51:47.000 It doesn't matter, and I think this is important, it doesn't matter whether someone intentionally is trying to condition the children.

00:51:53.000 The simple fact is the children are being conditioned.

00:51:56.000 These are young adults.

00:51:57.000 They're children.

00:51:58.000 They're going to grow up and be adults, and they're going to be conditioned.

00:52:00.000 That is used to the idea, having police everywhere, military-style police, and...

00:52:05.000 Carrying IDs, which, by the way, we're going to do a story on this.

00:52:09.000 This is the only ID they need with a barcode and a magnetic strip on it.

00:52:12.000 They know...

00:52:13.000 Where they're supposed to be, where they are, what they should be doing, who they are.

00:52:18.000 They know everything.

00:52:19.000 It's the one card.

00:52:20.000 It's the smart thing to do, isn't it, America?

00:52:23.000 No, it's not.

00:52:24.000 Alright, since we have so much stuff to get to, we were just reminded a second ago, we've got the news pieces here of the Independence Day celebration.

00:52:31.000 You're going to see here the different versions.

00:52:33.000 I believe it's KI24 is going to be first.

00:52:36.000 I think he has...

00:52:38.000 24 is actually KVUE, so I'm not sure which one this is.

00:52:40.000 You're right.

00:52:41.000 I think it's KVUE first, then KI, then I think News 36. Mike?

00:52:45.000 Oh, there's that ID card up close.

00:52:47.000 There's one of the IDs.

00:52:48.000 Now, you can't see the magnetic strip, but you can see the barcode and the picture and the photograph.

00:52:54.000 And you're supposed to display this.

00:52:55.000 They're supposed to wear these and display them at all times.

00:52:58.000 Well, why don't they just get one embedded in their hand?

00:53:00.000 Or maybe their forehead or something.

00:53:01.000 Hey, what a great idea!

00:53:03.000 Here we go.

00:53:03.000 We've got this piece right here ready to go.

00:53:05.000 Alright, this is KB24 first.

00:53:07.000 We're losing our sovereignty.

00:53:18.000 We don't like this flag!

00:53:19.000 Local television host Alex Jones and nearly three dozen others protested in front of the state capitol today.

00:53:23.000 They object to what they believe is a loss of America's sovereignty to the United Nations.

00:53:27.000 The group's members say the fourth is a perfect time to tell the public about a growing threat of a new world border.

00:53:35.000 Many gather downtown to protest what they call a lie of current freedom in America.

00:53:49.000 The event was led by international shortwave radio host Jeff Davis.

00:53:54.000 The protest was held on the Capitol grounds.

00:53:57.000 The combination of the holiday weekend...

00:53:59.000 By burning a flag on Independence Day, Ener is trying to shed light on the plight of America's poor and their lack of economic freedom.

00:54:08.000 I see myself as doing my duty, whether it's pleasant or not, you know.

00:54:12.000 And it's not that pleasant, you know, but depending on what kind of a conscience you've got, you know, I mean, you do what you think you have to do.

00:54:24.000 For doing what he did in front of the state capitol, Ener was taken into custody for setting a fire, not for burning the flag.

00:54:32.000 Freedom in progress.

00:54:34.000 He was released a few minutes later.

00:54:37.000 Speakers say Independence Day is the perfect time. 1.00

00:54:40.000 To bring their message to Americans.

00:54:43.000 We're not going to perpetrate the lie that we're free and independent.

00:54:46.000 We're countering the fact that thousands of people are going to be down here at Town Lake, you know, drinking their beer and watching the fireworks when we've got, you know, our Bill of Rights essentially has been flushed down the toilet.

00:55:01.000 The one thing that most people...

00:55:03.000 That was the reporter I talked about earlier, Rich Parsons.

00:55:10.000 That was a picture of him.

00:55:11.000 I'll have to get that scanned to our website.

00:55:12.000 If you don't like the way that story was done, the way they, again, lumped it in together, where visually, I think, people were given the impression that the people celebrating freedom, that the people celebrating what freedom we have left in this country, celebrating Independence Day, were lumped in with this flag bringing.

00:55:31.000 I personally...

00:55:32.000 I don't like the way that was done.

00:55:34.000 If you don't like the way that was done, if you don't like the news that's being broadcast on KXAN 36, call that number, 476-2863.

00:55:42.000 Ask for Bruce Whitaker, the news director.

00:55:45.000 Tell them what type of information you'd like to see.

00:55:48.000 Tell them that if you don't start seeing this kind of information, this very important information, things on the Federal Reserve, on FLIR footage of snipers using automatic weapons fire to gun people down running from a burning church, tell them you want to see that news, and if you don't start seeing it, you're going to stop buying products of their sponsors.

00:56:05.000 I think it's important to make that note.

00:56:07.000 And there he is.

00:56:07.000 There's Rich.

00:56:08.000 Hello, Rich.

00:56:09.000 Mr. Rich, I can't answer questions.

00:56:12.000 I only can ask them.

00:56:13.000 I can only ask them, not answer them.

00:56:16.000 Take one thing back.

00:56:18.000 We can't say not to buy them.

00:56:21.000 And if you don't like it, and while you're there, if you do own a business, if you're a business owner, if you're a business person here in Austin, and you know that you're not getting the news, you're getting this little pre-packaged, pre-prepared entertainment with a little news sprinkled in here and there that's not of much importance, why don't you mention that to them?

00:56:40.000 Why don't you mention that to them?

00:56:42.000 Say, you know, I would advertise on your station if you ever showed real news.

00:56:46.000 Why don't you mention that to them, too, if you like?

00:56:49.000 I think next we have ready and callers by the way hang on we got just a couple more articles to get to and then we're going to take a bunch of calls.

00:56:56.000 I live out in Marble Falls, Texas.

00:56:58.000 Oh, this is great.

00:56:59.000 Just out west of Marble Falls is a little town called Granite Shoals.

00:57:03.000 Interestingly enough, in Granite Shoals here just this past week, a warrantless task force inspected a Granite Shoals home.

00:57:09.000 There's a businessman, Frank Wilson, and his wife Cheryl.

00:57:15.000 I wouldn't quite call it a home-based business, but kind of for odds and ends for extra money, he converts old cars and fixes them up.

00:57:25.000 He was visited...

00:57:26.000 This is in Burnett County, by the way.

00:57:29.000 Granite Shoals, Texas.

00:57:30.000 Burnett County.

00:57:31.000 There he is right there and his wife, looking awfully dazed and confused, I might add.

00:57:36.000 They were visited by the Travis County Auto Theft Task Force.

00:57:42.000 Now, excuse me, this is Burnett County?

00:57:44.000 Yes, and they were visited by the Travis County Auto Theft Task Force.

00:57:47.000 The Travis County Auto Theft Task Force visited them with...

00:57:52.000 Sidearms, I might add, firearms, many of them in trucks, he says, and searched his home, went through his trash, went through his garage, took apart his cars for over six hours.

00:58:09.000 He had no warrant.

00:58:11.000 He did not identify himself.

00:58:13.000 This is Detective Chris Horton of the Travis County Auto Theft Task Force.

00:58:21.000 Didn't identify himself, had no warrant, said that he had a right to be there.

00:58:26.000 And I quote, we're allowed to go out and do salvage inspections if we see vehicles at various stages of disassembly.

00:58:33.000 So apparently...

00:58:34.000 The Travis County Auto Theft Task Force, if your tire is off your car, perhaps, you're changing your car, he has a right, he thinks, to go inspect your home and go through your trash for six hours without identifying himself or providing a warrant.

00:58:47.000 Even if you live in something that is not his jurisdiction.

00:58:50.000 That's right.

00:58:51.000 You don't even have to live inside Travis County, apparently.

00:58:55.000 You can be out in Bern.

00:58:56.000 And let me read a couple of quotes here from the newspaper.

00:58:59.000 And by the way, I want to commend...

00:59:02.000 The Highlander newspaper over in Marble Falls, Texas, for reporting of this type.

00:59:08.000 And I'll talk about an editorial here in a moment.

00:59:10.000 This is what news is meant to be.

00:59:12.000 This is what the real press is all about.

00:59:14.000 A quote here from Detective Horton.

00:59:17.000 The way I look at it is, the people that are good people and not doing something wrong, then they should thank us.

00:59:23.000 And if they are crooks, then who cares?

00:59:27.000 Again, I can't stress that.

00:59:29.000 It doesn't matter anymore.

00:59:31.000 It doesn't matter.

00:59:33.000 Who you are, if you're a citizen even in this jurisdiction.

00:59:36.000 If you're a good person, what do you have to be afraid of?

00:59:38.000 If you're a bad person, who cares?

00:59:40.000 They didn't find any contrabands on their property.

00:59:44.000 Didn't find them in violation of any laws.

00:59:46.000 Some other quick quotes here.

00:59:48.000 The Granite Shoals police were very upset that they weren't notified about this inspection.

00:59:54.000 Mr. Horton's response was, when we go out to do an inspection, we try to make a courtesy phone call to the local agency.

01:00:00.000 We didn't call the local agency there, and I quote, because we didn't know where we were.

01:00:07.000 We're going to give this guy a badge and a gun and he doesn't even know where he's at.

01:00:10.000 This is ridiculous.

01:00:12.000 He didn't realize he'd strayed 20 miles outside his street.

01:00:14.000 Yeah, he later added that he knew only that he was in Burnett County.

01:00:18.000 So let's give this guy a badge and a gun, let him go enforce laws.

01:00:23.000 Finally here, he says that he usually makes it a point to leave his business card, a little calling card behind after ransacking your house without a warrant.

01:00:30.000 After an inspection, he said, I don't remember if I did there.

01:00:33.000 I don't remember the man's name.

01:00:35.000 What a nice guy.

01:00:37.000 And I think it's important to note that Richard Stone, the editor of the Highlander, did a wonderful editorial.

01:00:43.000 And he said, among other things, that a police state mentality seems to have descended upon our society.

01:00:51.000 He also noted...

01:00:52.000 That already the Department of Public Safety will take a digital image of your thumbprint when you renew your driver's license and insist that you record your social security number.

01:01:01.000 That is fantastic.

01:01:02.000 I called Richard, and I told him.

01:01:04.000 I didn't realize he was such an evil right-wing extremist.

01:01:07.000 He probably drinks blood for dinner, too.

01:01:08.000 Richard, way too bad.

01:01:09.000 And there was one other quick thing here.

01:01:12.000 There was another editorial about the fact that there is a war going on in Mexico.

01:01:16.000 So leave it to a small-town newspaper to report real news.

01:01:21.000 When the mainstream press here in Austin, the Austin American statesman, doesn't even concern themselves with real issues.

01:01:30.000 Well, the statesman's scared to death of guys like this, independent newspapers that don't have to read off of the prompter and don't have to just print whatever they've given to print.

01:01:39.000 Here's your story for today.

01:01:41.000 I just can't believe in the week that we celebrate our independence from tyrannical governments, we have our rights being violated.

01:01:48.000 Across the board, we have a district attorney here in Travis County who says you don't have a right to socialize.

01:01:53.000 I'm quoting him.

01:01:54.000 He said, you don't have a right to socialize.

01:01:57.000 The Supreme Court has ruled like they're kings or something.

01:02:02.000 I'm sorry.

01:02:03.000 I'm a sovereign.

01:02:03.000 You're a sovereign.

01:02:04.000 Mike's a sovereign.

01:02:05.000 We rule in this country.

01:02:06.000 We live in a Republican form of government.

01:02:08.000 We rule here.

01:02:10.000 And then we see task forces going out of their jurisdictions and rifing through people's stuff.

01:02:16.000 Without any warrants or probable cause.

01:02:18.000 We're going to get to an audio tape here of Alex Jones on his radio show, The Real Spin.

01:02:25.000 He called to complain about, there he is, Rich, lovely Rich Parsons.

01:02:31.000 He called to complain about Rich Parsons.

01:02:32.000 He called to complain about producer Richard Collison.

01:02:36.000 And here's what we ended up doing.

01:02:41.000 Now I'm going to go ahead and I am going to...

01:02:45.000 Call down to KXAN 36 and ask them about this.

01:02:49.000 and find out exactly what Richard Poulsen, the head guy down there at this time of day.

01:02:54.000 Okay, I think it's important to note too, sorry we're having a little bit of a problem with the audio.

01:03:10.000 I think it's important to note too, in this last call that you're going to hear, I want you to notice the similarity of the voice between the last call, the person claiming not to be Richard Collison, the KXN News 36 producer, and the first guy who says he is Richard Collison.

01:03:26.000 I submit that it's the exact same person, that that was Richard Collison lying.

01:03:30.000 He denies, and he says that he's not Richard Collison, and that Richard Collison is in fact not there.

01:03:36.000 So if we've got that tape ready now, let's listen to that.

01:03:38.000 Exactly what their stance is, because I talked to my producer, Mike Hanson, who actually talked to Richard Collison.

01:03:42.000 I talked to him during the last break, and he said that Richard Poulsen said, I meant to do that, I meant to associate that flag story with that flag story, and I'm not retracting it.

01:03:53.000 That's fine.

01:03:55.000 You'll wish you never heard the end of it, Mr. Poulsen, because I'm not going to put up with that garbage if you did the story, which you say you did.

01:04:01.000 Just go to this and dial.

01:04:03.000 Okay, here we go.

01:04:05.000 Hmm, sitting here waiting for someone to answer.

01:04:17.000 They probably weren't going to answer.

01:04:21.000 Our office hours are closed.

01:04:23.000 Thank you for calling.

01:04:25.000 We're busy doing the news right now.

01:04:27.000 We're telling you how to cook chicken and will your yard.

01:04:29.000 Important things.

01:04:31.000 Weird and real news people.

01:04:32.000 Shouldn't have announced it a hundred times and then called.

01:04:36.000 That's ridiculous.

01:04:38.000 News 36. Hey, this is Alex Jones, and I heard that y'all ran a story today.

01:04:43.000 I would like to talk to Richard Poulsen if that's okay.

01:04:46.000 This is Richard Collison.

01:04:48.000 Oh, is it Collison?

01:04:49.000 Collison.

01:04:50.000 Collison.

01:04:50.000 I was told Poulsen.

01:04:51.000 I hear someone cackling in the background.

01:04:53.000 Well, great, sir.

01:04:55.000 We didn't burn a flag today.

01:04:57.000 Right, and we didn't say that you did.

01:04:58.000 I really don't have time to discuss this with you because we have another newscast in just a few minutes.

01:05:02.000 You have an important newscast?

01:05:04.000 Oh, he's so cool.

01:05:06.000 Here, I'll call back.

01:05:08.000 What a great guy.

01:05:09.000 He's never going to hear the end of May.

01:05:11.000 Here, that's me.

01:05:13.000 Do that one more time.

01:05:14.000 Okay, now I gotta dial to him.

01:05:16.000 Let me dial.

01:05:17.000 I've got a newscast to get ready for.

01:05:29.000 I've gotta go.

01:05:29.000 Thank you very much.

01:05:30.000 Click!

01:05:33.000 Oh, no.

01:05:34.000 836, how can I help you?

01:05:35.000 Yes, my name is Alex Jones.

01:05:36.000 I was trying to talk to Richard Colson, and I was hung up on after about six seconds of talking to him.

01:05:42.000 Okay.

01:05:43.000 I'm doing a live radio broadcast right now, and we were there shredding a U.N. flag approximately, I guess, three hours after some lone kook.

01:05:53.000 Sir?

01:05:53.000 Yes, ma'am.

01:05:54.000 I don't mean to cut you off.

01:05:55.000 I am so sorry.

01:05:55.000 I am getting ready for the newscast, and we've taken several calls about the story that you guys were talking about earlier.

01:06:04.000 Richard is the producer of the show, and he's doing the newscast right now.

01:06:08.000 But if you call back at about 10.30, he should be finished with the show.

01:06:11.000 Okay, well, here's my question to you.

01:06:14.000 I understand you're busy.

01:06:15.000 I want to speak to him, and I'll be congenial if he's congenial to me.

01:06:19.000 But the point I have to make is, I do not like being associated with some kook burning a flag, and then suddenly it cuts to me alone. 1.00

01:06:31.000 Not showing the crowd and making me look like, oh, it's kook hour. 0.70

01:06:35.000 One kook doing this, one kook doing that.

01:06:38.000 Okay.

01:06:39.000 All these kooks out shredding precious flags.

01:06:41.000 Sir?

01:06:42.000 Yes, ma'am.

01:06:43.000 I understand what you're saying, but like I said, Richard is the producer, so I really can't do anything about that.

01:06:48.000 Is he going to retract it?

01:06:48.000 He would definitely be the person to talk to, and if you call back at 1030...

01:06:52.000 He can gladly help you, I'm sure.

01:06:53.000 Like I said, the reason I'm being short right now is because I'm in the middle of working on the newscast.

01:06:58.000 Ma'am, I really appreciate your help.

01:07:00.000 And so if you call back at 1030, 1035, he should be available.

01:07:03.000 But right now I'm like hooked up to lights and microphones and other things.

01:07:08.000 Ma'am.

01:07:08.000 And there's not much I can do.

01:07:09.000 I'm sorry about that.

01:07:09.000 Ma'am, thank you so much for your help.

01:07:11.000 Oh, no problem.

01:07:11.000 Just call back after the newscast and that's the best time to catch you.

01:07:14.000 I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

01:07:15.000 Oh, no problem.

01:07:16.000 Have a great evening.

01:07:16.000 Okay, you too.

01:07:19.000 Yeah, I'm going to call back at 1030. There we go.

01:07:22.000 Not enough time on a four-hour program.

01:07:35.000 This is The Real Spin.

01:07:36.000 You're listening to 98.9 KJFK FM. We're going to ask them about a story they did on me today where they showed some guy three hours before with no one...

01:07:45.000 He was 36?

01:07:47.000 Yes, is Mr. Coulson there?

01:07:48.000 No, I'm sorry.

01:07:49.000 He's not.

01:07:49.000 May I take a message?

01:07:50.000 Yes, I was told that he would be able to talk to me after 10.30.

01:07:54.000 I'm sorry.

01:07:55.000 He's gone.

01:07:56.000 Would you like to call back tomorrow?

01:07:57.000 Sure.

01:07:57.000 What's your name, sir?

01:07:59.000 My name is Alex Jones.

01:08:00.000 We're doing a live radio show.

01:08:02.000 Oh, that was nice.

01:08:04.000 That was him.

01:08:04.000 Was it?

01:08:05.000 Yeah.

01:08:06.000 How loving.

01:08:07.000 Sounded just like him.

01:08:08.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:08:09.000 Hmm.

01:08:11.000 I'm just trying to talk to somebody.

01:08:18.000 I guess wrong person.

01:08:19.000 um Hmm.

01:08:29.000 Well, again, this program is every Saturday evening from 7 to 11 p.m.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, there at the end, we stopped it short.

01:08:38.000 They didn't answer that last call finally, but I think it's important to know.

01:08:41.000 That's funny.

01:08:41.000 It sounded exactly like the same guy.

01:08:42.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:08:42.000 I mean, I didn't have a voice analyzation date or anything like that.

01:08:45.000 Did you need one?

01:08:46.000 No, I don't think that required.

01:08:48.000 I think it's indicative of the type.

01:08:52.000 This is a producer.

01:08:54.000 I mean, this is the guy that decides what kind of news goes on KXAN News 36. His name is Richard Collison.

01:09:01.000 Call that number we put up on the slate earlier.

01:09:04.000 Tell KXAN News 36. Richard Collison has no business washing cars or cutting grass even, if you ask me, if that's the type of mentality, if that's the type of intelligence he's dealing with.

01:09:19.000 And for him to pick and choose the kind of news that's coming out is just deplorable.

01:09:24.000 So it's important that you call KXAN News 36. Tell them how you feel.

01:09:28.000 Tell them you want to see real news, that you're not appreciative of citizens.

01:09:31.000 Because you'll notice, Alex was very polite and kind, I thought.

01:09:37.000 He was stuck to the facts.

01:09:38.000 There was no name-calling, nothing of that sort.

01:09:40.000 And to be treated that way is horrible.

01:09:43.000 Do you have any other comments about that?

01:09:45.000 Not really.

01:09:46.000 I mean, what can you say?

01:09:47.000 I mean, we know it's controlled.

01:09:48.000 We know that the media is controlled, and we already know this.

01:09:51.000 So, what can you say?

01:09:53.000 It's just another disgusting thing that...

01:09:55.000 I want to try and get to some calls here real quick.

01:09:57.000 My mic cues up a piece on, I believe it's some biometrics that CBS apparently came from the CBS station.

01:10:03.000 So we're going to take a few calls here.

01:10:06.000 Caller, you're on the air.

01:10:07.000 Go ahead.

01:10:08.000 Yes, I had a comment about the White House webpage.

01:10:13.000 I'm looking at it right now.

01:10:14.000 And there is one executive order I see.

01:10:18.000 What's the number on it?

01:10:21.000 I don't know, but it says you're a jackass.

01:10:24.000 Well, thank you, caller.

01:10:27.000 Alrighty, then.

01:10:28.000 Caller, you're on the air.

01:10:29.000 Go ahead.

01:10:31.000 Hello.

01:10:32.000 Hello, caller.

01:10:34.000 I might have accidentally dumped him.

01:10:35.000 Let me go to this other line.

01:10:38.000 Caller, you're on the air.

01:10:39.000 Yeah, hi.

01:10:40.000 Steve.

01:10:41.000 Yes.

01:10:41.000 How are you doing?

01:10:42.000 Pretty good.

01:10:43.000 Yeah, I just finished reading Tony Brown's Empower the People.

01:10:46.000 I want to get that.

01:10:47.000 Is it good?

01:10:47.000 Oh, it's very good.

01:10:48.000 It raises some strikingly difficult questions about, you know...

01:10:53.000 He puts it in perspective.

01:10:55.000 I mean, I've been listening to you and Alex and Jeff Davis and everything for a year and a half now, and it puts it in perspective of an evil empire that's ruling this world.

01:11:05.000 You know, the reviews that I read of it is that he footnotes all his documentation very well so you can look it up for yourself.

01:11:13.000 us, yeah, correct.

01:11:14.000 See, that is so important because that to me is an individual who absolutely believes in what they're saying and is telling you the truth because they're telling, in essence, that is a roundabout way of saying, "Hey, don't take my word for it.

01:11:26.000 Go look it up for yourself." Yeah, exactly.

01:11:28.000 But go ahead.

01:11:29.000 You had talked about some of the, I don't get so much into the conspiracy end of it, so I'm very interested in getting this book and reading it because I just kind of look at what the results of some of these things are, whether the intentions are that or not.

01:11:42.000 I'm just kind of a results-oriented person, but tell us a little bit about that.

01:11:46.000 Well, basically, on May 1st, 1776, What was his name?

01:11:52.000 But the Order of the Illuminati was created by Adam Weishaupt.

01:11:56.000 Yes, correct.

01:11:57.000 And through the years, it's proliferated into mainly the Freemasonry movement here in the United States.

01:12:04.000 And personally, my grandfather is a 33rd degree Freemason, Knights Templar, and it's pretty strikingly that I've never, it's very secret, and I've never known anything about this until recently, after I read this book, I confronted him.

01:12:18.000 And he was very cold and oppressive towards me, and it draws some questions.

01:12:24.000 Really?

01:12:24.000 So, now wait, do I understand correctly?

01:12:26.000 You said you had asked your grandfather about some of this information?

01:12:29.000 Correct, yes.

01:12:30.000 He's a 33rd degree Freemason.

01:12:32.000 And you said he kind of pulled back and wasn't...

01:12:35.000 Yeah, he pretty much told me, you know, like, how you get some of these crazy callers calling in telling that you're full of crap.

01:12:40.000 That's basically what he told me.

01:12:42.000 Huh.

01:12:42.000 It's pretty striking.

01:12:44.000 It, you know...

01:12:46.000 I must admit, there have been times where I've had some differences of opinion with family members of my own, but I'm a little bit surprised that you enlisted that kind of response from him.

01:12:55.000 Oh, I mean, yeah, he's coming down here in October.

01:12:58.000 I mean, my father was put into the, before you become a Mason when you're a kid, there's another order, too, that they put you into.

01:13:06.000 Demolay?

01:13:06.000 Yes, correct.

01:13:08.000 And he dropped out of that.

01:13:09.000 He didn't like all the secret handshakes and rituals and chants and all the crap they were doing.

01:13:15.000 Pretty scary stuff, but no one knows about it at all.

01:13:18.000 Well, listen, any other quick comments?

01:13:20.000 Just at the back of the dollar bill has the mark of the beast on it.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, it sure does.

01:13:25.000 It sure does.

01:13:27.000 The Illuminati symbol.

01:13:29.000 And the Latin around the triangle, one of the Illuminati symbols, announcing the birth of a new secular order.

01:13:36.000 Interesting.

01:13:36.000 Imagine that.

01:13:37.000 Well, listen, I appreciate your call.

01:13:39.000 On Federal Reserve money.

01:13:40.000 Alex!

01:13:41.000 What's going on, guys?

01:13:42.000 Hey, listen, we wanted to do it on the air, but unfortunately we couldn't do it.

01:13:46.000 First of all, I want to congratulate you.

01:13:48.000 I think it's excellent that you're going to be on KGFK every night now, so congratulations.

01:13:53.000 Yeah, six days a week, man.

01:13:54.000 Let freedom ring!

01:13:55.000 That's right.

01:13:57.000 Is Austin ready?

01:13:59.000 Yeah, well, you know, there's so much to talk about and so many little machinations.

01:14:05.000 I mean, we're just...

01:14:30.000 Our children are being made to accept the police state, and everybody out there listening, you've got to get motivated.

01:14:35.000 You've got power.

01:14:35.000 Look what just a small group have done, the political victories we've had in Austin.

01:14:39.000 We have single-handedly, with the help of the chief of police in San Antonio, stopped the Delta Force, and that's a bad freeze, guys.

01:14:45.000 But I just want to thank everybody, and I want to thank Mike Hansen, and Jeff Davis did put on a great rally.

01:14:51.000 Very professionally done, and Keith Perry out there, micro-broadcasting.

01:14:55.000 Did you know this?

01:14:56.000 I've got a chance to talk to you, Steve.

01:14:57.000 Yes, no, I knew it.

01:14:58.000 I listened to it, too.

01:14:58.000 Well, I was listening to Rusty's speech all the way to Mopac, because they were broadcasting on 95.9, known as Pirate Signal, but it wasn't conflicting with any other stations off a little six-foot antenna.

01:15:09.000 I'm not sure how many watts, but y'all were beaming it down Congress.

01:15:14.000 I'll guarantee you that if I was hearing it all the way over to Mopac...

01:15:18.000 I will guarantee you that going downhill, down Congress, you were beaming all the way, probably all the way down past Manchac, all the way to the end of South Lamar.

01:15:25.000 Wow.

01:15:26.000 I think it's absolutely fantastic.

01:15:28.000 Oh, it's awesome.

01:15:29.000 We had a caller just a second ago, and I know you know a lot about this, so I think it'll help out.

01:15:34.000 He had said that he had read Tony Brown's new book, and it talked about the Illuminati and Freemasonry.

01:15:39.000 Can you touch on just a little bit about what you know about how those two are kind of interconnected?

01:15:44.000 Because that's an area I'm pretty unfamiliar with.

01:15:46.000 Well, sure.

01:15:48.000 I've had family that was a 33rd degree mason.

01:15:50.000 He's dead now.

01:15:52.000 And he was a good person.

01:15:53.000 I mean, George Washington warned us about European Freemasonry, which was infiltrated in the mid-1600s.

01:16:01.000 And by 1776, Adam Weishaupt from Ingolstadt University launched a full-scale criminal program known to others as a conspiracy.

01:16:11.000 You know, most of the charges of crimes are conspiracy at the federal level.

01:16:14.000 That's when two or more people...

01:16:15.000 You know, together, devise something to defraud people.

01:16:20.000 And they wanted to bring down social order and reinstate their own even more authoritarian state.

01:16:26.000 Basically, it was just a very intelligent, crafty, devious, organized crime.

01:16:33.000 I mean, when you hear a name like Gotti or any of the classic mafia names, the reason the Italian mafia was destroyed in this country is it started getting powerful.

01:16:44.000 By the mid-40s and 50s had been powerful before, and the Wasp mob, people like the Bushes and the DuPonts and the Morgans and the people of the Bank of England and the Rothschilds and Rockefellers didn't appreciate having rivals that had balls, so they took them out and took over their drug dealing and you see the state taking over the gambling and everything that supposed criminals used to do is now done by the state. 0.58

01:17:06.000 And there's just so many huge lies out there that we go over and over with people.

01:17:10.000 Private banks, print the money, it's a seven-member board.

01:17:12.000 Only two of them are appointed to 14-year terms.

01:17:14.000 And it just goes on and on.

01:17:16.000 And I see people like Jason Hatfield and others making little pamphlets and simple information.

01:17:21.000 I mean, kids that just got out of college, but the information's factual.

01:17:24.000 And this is what it takes, is people putting on a line and finding the thrill that is there.

01:17:30.000 In learning and becoming an educator.

01:17:32.000 And you don't have to have all the answers and be perfect.

01:17:35.000 That's great.

01:17:37.000 Alex, real quick, I wanted to make sure you let everybody know that you're still part of the Freedom Report and you're still going to be doing stories for us.

01:17:43.000 Can you tell us a little bit about that?

01:17:45.000 You bet.

01:17:45.000 Mike has been busting his butt.

01:17:46.000 I was supposed to put some stories together that Mike got, you know, put them together with tags and voiceovers and things.

01:17:53.000 But my car, I came out from my girlfriend's house today about 9 a.m.

01:17:58.000 And my truck, my Tahoe, the entire side had been broadsided by some drunk or something.

01:18:03.000 They had about $4,000 in damage.

01:18:05.000 So that kind of got me a little off today.

01:18:08.000 I had edit time early this morning from like 9 to 12 at Access.

01:18:12.000 So I had to cancel that.

01:18:14.000 And so I missed getting those stories for y'all.

01:18:16.000 But I'll get those put together and Mike's just been busting his ass.

01:18:19.000 And I'm going to get even some more new equipment for Mike.

01:18:22.000 We've got wireless mics and video cameras, but I'm going to try to get a new camera.

01:18:26.000 We're trying to do what it takes.

01:18:27.000 I'm making a new documentary, Police State or Slave State 2000, America Destroyed by Design.

01:18:32.000 I'm going to put that back on Access.

01:18:35.000 But look, I've monopolized enough.

01:18:37.000 Freedom Report is great.

01:18:38.000 You guys keep it up and put out the information.

01:18:41.000 Rusty, I want to see some of your excellent wit.

01:18:43.000 You put me to shame.

01:18:44.000 I'll see you guys.

01:18:45.000 I can't wait to see you go national, Alex.

01:18:49.000 I'm serious about that.

01:18:50.000 There's some talk about that.

01:18:51.000 By the way, I want to mention, I promised Jason I would.

01:18:54.000 I don't have a...

01:18:55.000 I don't have a copy of it right here with me, but if you would like to see this little pamphlet that he's talking about that Jason Hadfield put together, you can pick it up.

01:19:04.000 It's just a little white folded piece about this big.

01:19:09.000 It's got a big dollar sign on the front of it.

01:19:11.000 You can pick that up at the Green Mesquite Barbecue out in Oak Hill.

01:19:14.000 You can pick it up also at the Magnolia Cafe on South Lamar and I believe also on...

01:19:21.000 I'm sorry, Kirby Lane Cafe on South Lamar and at a few other locations.

01:19:25.000 But look for it.

01:19:26.000 It's just a little white pamphlet.

01:19:27.000 It's free.

01:19:28.000 It's got a big dollar sign on the front of it, and it says, what do you know about your money?

01:19:33.000 You know, I think it's important.

01:19:34.000 Jason Hadfield.

01:19:35.000 I think it's important.

01:19:36.000 You know, when I see things like that, that is so exciting to me.

01:19:39.000 And Alex touched on that a little bit about seeing just...

01:19:42.000 People getting involved, doing something.

01:19:44.000 I mean, that's something relatively simple.

01:19:46.000 He took a basic amount of knowledge, photocopied it on just a white sheet of paper.

01:19:50.000 It's not multicolored or anything like that.

01:19:53.000 Simple dollar sign symbol to get people's attention.

01:19:55.000 Did it on his computer at home.

01:19:57.000 Yeah, and they get information, and it's cheap to do.

01:19:59.000 He could make hundreds of copies for a few dollars.

01:20:02.000 We saw a woman at the Independence Day celebration.

01:20:05.000 A woman, she said, from the east side of town, and she came out to speak out about the fact that our rights are being violated as a result of what's going on with these alleged gang members.

01:20:15.000 Real nicely.

01:20:16.000 And to see just somebody who had probably never gotten involved in anything before admitted, and I thought she brought up the very valid point, one of the prohibited activities has to do with the types of colors.

01:20:29.000 That these people are going to be allowed to wear.

01:20:33.000 And she said, I'm poor.

01:20:35.000 She says, I'm proud, but I'm poor.

01:20:37.000 And she says, I'm sorry, but I cannot afford to wear the colors you want me to wear.

01:20:42.000 And this is an important point to make.

01:20:45.000 I think, once again, we see...

01:20:47.000 This has nothing to do with protecting people's safety as it's been advocated.

01:20:52.000 It's just yet another command and control structure that's being put into place.

01:20:57.000 They are preying upon people that have traditionally been politically weak, and the sad part is...

01:21:03.000 Or the great part in some ways is we're going to do our very best to let people know in these areas where people have traditionally been politically weak that they actually have a tremendous amount of political power when they band together and they unify and they present a united front and they go out and they vote as a group and they decide together as a group.

01:21:22.000 They have tremendous amounts of power and we see...

01:21:25.000 That woman, and I wish I could remember her name, I'm sorry I can't, she stood up and she told it exactly like it was, and that's somebody who can lead the people of East Austin into understanding what kind of political power they actually have.

01:21:38.000 That's true, and I think it's very important.

01:21:39.000 You touched on it a while ago, and then we moved on to something else, that they'll start trying to do things like this where they see a niche in the chain.

01:21:47.000 They think it's pertinent.

01:21:49.000 You know, they think, well, they can do it and they can get away with it with gang members.

01:21:52.000 Then it'll be on the books.

01:21:53.000 It'll be accepted.

01:21:55.000 Then they can start doing it in your neighborhood and in Steve's neighborhood and everywhere.

01:22:00.000 All right, real quick, before we wrap up here, we're going to go on a piece on biometrics from CBS. There's Dan Rather.

01:22:05.000 But what about your privacy?

01:22:07.000 CBS's Sandra Hughes has been looking into this.

01:22:11.000 Your hand is your passport at Los Angeles International Airport where you can bypass long lines of immigration after a machine reads the unique characteristics of your palm and fingers to prove you are you.

01:22:23.000 For your protection, you are being photographed.

01:22:25.000 At banks all over the country, the shape and dimensions of your face are enough ID to cash a check.

01:22:32.000 And the way you hold an electronic pen equipped with angle and pressure sensors can do more to identify you than your actual signature.

01:22:39.000 These are all forms of identification technology known as biometrics.

01:22:44.000 It's a way to distinguish people not by a collection of numbers, but through a collection of body parts.

01:22:49.000 The flecks and blood vessels in your eye, the structure and webbing of your hand, the wave pattern made by your voice.

01:22:56.000 Say your password after the tone.

01:23:00.000 The government first created biometrics to use at the entrances of nuclear facilities, an almost foolproof way to tell the bad guys from the good guys.

01:23:08.000 It's so effective and now so cheap that private companies want to introduce it to almost every facet of your life.

01:23:15.000 This month, congressional hearings were held to make sure that the once secret technology can work in the real world.

01:23:21.000 Jim Wayman is evaluating the devices as the director of the National Biometric Test Center.

01:23:26.000 No security system or machine can ever identify anything with 100% accuracy.

01:23:32.000 But Congress already has enough faith in biometric technology to implement it here along the U.S.-Mexico border.

01:23:40.000 Border patrol agents are using biometrics to catch illegal immigrants who've crossed enough times for criminal prosecution.

01:23:49.000 Legitimate border crossers are willingly giving biometric data to the government, which it uses to quickly identify them and whisk them through inspections. 1.00

01:23:57.000 Do you mind giving up all that personal information about yourself?

01:24:00.000 I have nothing to hide.

01:24:01.000 This is wonderful.

01:24:03.000 But privacy issues have been raised.

01:24:05.000 Could placing your finger on a scanner unleash a flow of personal information?

01:24:09.000 Biometrics people say such concerns are premature.

01:24:13.000 The technology is not that strong, and that's a good thing.

01:24:16.000 We like that.

01:24:17.000 A good thing for those of us who'd like to forget all those passwords, throw out the ATM cards, and just use our bodies to prove who we are.

01:24:26.000 Sandra Hughes, CBS News, Orange, California.

01:24:31.000 Oh.

01:24:32.000 Well, there you have it.

01:24:33.000 It's so great.

01:24:34.000 I just think it's wonderful.

01:24:36.000 It's so wonderful.

01:24:38.000 In Alex's documentary, there's a really funny part where he's at the toll booth.

01:24:42.000 And I absolutely love this.

01:24:43.000 He's at a toll booth.

01:24:44.000 I think it's in Oklahoma.

01:24:45.000 And they have the little transponders on your car.

01:24:48.000 The lady at the toll booth was talking about how great it was.

01:24:50.000 He goes, oh yeah, it's so great.

01:24:51.000 Why don't we just put one in my head?

01:24:53.000 Just put one in my head.

01:24:55.000 And, you know, let's talk about the dangers of biometrics.

01:24:58.000 I think it's important to bring this up.

01:25:00.000 You are readily giving up personal information that's going to be used by various government agencies for God knows what.

01:25:09.000 I mean, we're talking about...

01:25:11.000 With the driver's license, taking blood and urine samples, that blood, you can extract your DNA from it.

01:25:16.000 With DNA, they can place you anywhere.

01:25:18.000 If somebody wanted to frame you, what better way to do it than put your DNA somewhere?

01:25:21.000 So what are they going to use it for, Steve?

01:25:24.000 Who knows what all they're going to use it for?

01:25:26.000 That's the scariest thing about it.

01:25:28.000 I'm sure it's like the Social Security card.

01:25:30.000 It'll never be used for identification purposes.

01:25:32.000 Exactly.

01:25:32.000 Which, by the way, that's one of the stories that we're going to work on next week.

01:25:38.000 I found this blood drive.

01:25:41.000 This blood drive thing, it says on here a time and a place and everything, a phone number.

01:25:45.000 It also says, bring your photo ID and your social security number.

01:25:52.000 That's right.

01:25:53.000 Alex went and asked about this, and we're going to do a story on this.

01:25:56.000 I think Alex and Mike are working on it right now, and we'll have a story on that next week.

01:26:00.000 And one quick note, that also plays into the national ID card that's being instituted.

01:26:05.000 Part of that same...

01:26:06.000 Kind of a border patrol program.

01:26:08.000 It was the Immigration Act, I believe, in 1996. Federal agencies now will no longer accept state-issued driver's licenses identification unless they contain certain things, among them biometrics, chips embedded in the cards that contain all sorts of personal information, retina scans, face scans, thumb scans, DNA, etc., etc.

01:26:25.000 Oh, Steve.

01:26:26.000 We've got a call waiting on line three, apparently.

01:26:28.000 Can you feel the love?

01:26:29.000 Caller, are you on the air?

01:26:30.000 I am.

01:26:31.000 Go ahead.

01:26:32.000 How you doing?

01:26:33.000 Pretty good.

01:26:34.000 Okay, I'll make this quick.

01:26:35.000 The last caller that was in, he was talking about the Freemasonry.

01:26:38.000 Right.

01:26:40.000 You know, it's kind of scary.

01:26:42.000 I did some research on this because I had a couple of friends, lady friends, that are in another offset of Freemasonry.

01:26:47.000 You know which one I'm talking about?

01:26:48.000 No, like I said, this is an area I'm a little bit unfamiliar with, so you're just kidding me.

01:26:51.000 Yeah, it's called the Order of the Eastern Star.

01:26:53.000 Okay.

01:26:53.000 It's for women.

01:26:54.000 Okay.

01:26:55.000 And they go through the same type of secret handshakes and oaths.

01:27:00.000 And things like that.

01:27:01.000 If you read some of the oaths that the masonry has to go through, it's a very scary, scary thing.

01:27:07.000 Also, not on top of that, but even, and I hope neither one of y'all are, but if you're Mormon, Mormons have used a lot of the Freemasonry oaths and rites of passage for their religion. 0.79

01:27:19.000 Matter of fact, on the Mormon tabernacle, you can see some of the Freemasonry signs, and you can also see the pentagram that's on there.

01:27:29.000 So there's a lot of subtle things that are happening out there.

01:27:32.000 And one thing that's kind of strange, I think, is that a lot of people think that the Freemasonry is this kind of good old boy network.

01:27:38.000 But it's a lot more serious than that.

01:27:40.000 Because there are a lot of people in a lot of churches throughout the United States that belong to Freemasonry.

01:27:46.000 But they don't know where the roots come from.

01:27:48.000 They don't know what happens on the other side of the wall, if you will.

01:27:51.000 There's only a certain amount of people that get across that wall.

01:27:54.000 No, that's true.

01:27:55.000 Listen, we've got to let you go.

01:27:57.000 I appreciate your call.

01:27:59.000 By the way, somebody had just whispered to me that Ann Richards, former Texas Governor Ann Richards, is part of that Eastern Star, I believe you call it.

01:28:08.000 I want to thank everyone for tuning in.

01:28:11.000 I want to thank Mike Cancer for doing another great job and all the people you see on the By the way, I got a message from the Jeff Davis Show.

01:28:18.000 They want to say that they congratulate Alex on getting a nightly radio show on a mainstream program, a mainstream radio station, which is KJFK. I'm really proud of what's going on there.

01:28:30.000 I want to thank Rusty.

01:28:31.000 For joining me tonight.

01:28:32.000 Steve, my pleasure.

01:28:34.000 We made it.

01:28:35.000 We got Alex's help a little bit, which is important.

01:28:37.000 Listen, I want to let everybody know a few quick things here.

01:28:41.000 If you want to contact us, you can do it from email at slane at moment.net.

01:28:46.000 That's S-L-A-N-E at moment.net.

01:28:49.000 You can contact...

01:28:52.000 Contact us at the 703-6767 number and leave a message.

01:28:57.000 We've also got our comment line, and I've forgotten that off the top of my head.

01:29:02.000 There you go, 370. 9558. You can send us articles, videotapes to that P.O. box there.

01:29:09.000 And you can also visit our website at downsize.ml.org.

01:29:15.000 There's no W's or anything like that.

Alex Jones Show - July 06, 1998

Steve Lane Rusty Fields Freedom Report feat Alex Jones

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