Ali Dawah - 2 SUNNIES REACT TO 2 SHIAS ON RAFIDA MOVIE

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00:00:25.240 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends.

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00:00:28.500 Yes, it's been a long time, me, hijab and this so far.

00:00:31.440 But a special video brings us here today.

00:00:33.320 It's this movie that's been circulating.

00:00:35.120 I personally just wanted to ignore it.

00:00:36.620 I spoke to some brothers that I know.

00:00:38.620 But what was, the interest that I had was basically, what does the Shia communities have to say about this?

00:00:44.960 That's what I really want to know.

00:00:46.300 Because I didn't know what they have to say would tell me a lot about what they actually think.

00:00:50.320 So I was sent a video randomly.

00:00:51.880 I was just waiting here.

00:00:52.640 I was waiting to go out.

00:00:53.820 And this video, let's watch it for ourselves.

00:00:55.760 So these are two individuals.

00:00:57.040 We don't know if they're Shia or Sunni.

00:00:58.920 Hello, welcome to our channel.

00:01:00.300 I know you guys missed us.

00:01:00.960 It's been a long time.

00:01:01.540 But we're back.

00:01:02.080 We're back in Lebanon.

00:01:03.320 Anyway, as you write it in the title, we're going to be reviewing the Lady of Heaven movie.

00:01:06.060 We watched it a couple days ago.

00:01:07.660 It was interesting.

00:01:09.220 Obviously, the person who made the movie is a very controversial person.

00:01:11.360 Within the Shia community, he's very controversial.

00:01:12.860 Based off of that alone, there's a lot of don't watch it, don't do this, don't do that.

00:01:15.800 So we went ahead and watched it.

00:01:17.180 To be honest, if you were both very excited to actually see that something was being done in honor of

00:01:21.020 So what you just said that, I'm assuming it's a Shia.

00:01:27.540 Okay, maybe, yeah.

00:01:28.500 Maybe.

00:01:29.260 Yeah, it probably is, yeah.

00:01:30.500 I mean, they said we're in the Shia.

00:01:31.740 A lot of people were.

00:01:32.060 Just the fear was, okay, this person is the one doing it.

00:01:33.980 How is it going to turn out?

00:01:34.580 Is it going to be a big depiction?

00:01:35.420 Is it going to be a bad depiction?

00:01:37.020 So today we're going to break it down.

00:01:38.220 We're going to talk about what our opinion was about the movie.

00:01:40.080 We'll be fine.

00:01:40.340 So let's not, this is very important.

00:01:41.620 He said, we're going to see, is it a bad depiction or is it a good depiction?

00:01:44.320 It's very important.

00:01:45.100 Yeah, don't forget what you just said.

00:01:46.120 Okay, some things that stood out, both good and bad, and yeah, we'll go from now.

00:01:49.640 Yeah, so to be honest, I was super excited to watch it.

00:01:51.360 So when were we, should I mention that we didn't watch it?

00:01:53.200 Well, it's not a big category, so it was impossible for us to watch it.

00:01:54.820 Yeah, so it was impossible for us to watch it.

00:01:55.960 So as soon as it came out, we figured out a way to watch it and watch it on.

00:01:57.860 We got to get those.

00:01:58.400 We got to watch it on.

00:01:59.560 Honestly, I was very excited and I had very high expectations for this movie, but unfortunately those expectations didn't meet.

00:02:06.800 Yeah, they definitely weren't.

00:02:07.740 I mean, again, it wasn't entirely bad, but I guess when you're talking about a project that's related to Falkman Cazana, you have very high expectations.

00:02:13.080 Yeah, and you know what?

00:02:13.800 I think that I would give it a higher rating just because of the story itself.

00:02:17.460 Like, the story itself is incredible.

00:02:18.960 I think the story itself is what makes the movie good.

00:02:21.240 But there's a lot of defaults in the movie that we're going to get into.

00:02:23.660 Yeah, so I mean, I would say the first thing, for me personally, I would say this is probably the biggest objection that I had when I was watching the movie,

00:02:29.020 was the fact that the Prophet and Imam Ali's face were, so they were showing the movie.

00:02:33.120 Yeah, let's talk about that for a second.

00:02:34.640 Obviously, within Shia, a lot of foot here of the Shia, they allow that. 1.00

00:02:39.940 You'll see depictions of Ali ibn Abi Talib and stuff like that.

00:02:42.960 Yeah, this is the first time I've ever been done by a Muslim person, which is very odd. 0.69

00:02:47.880 It's like out of respect, you know, that's kind of the thing too.

00:02:49.460 It's out of respect, you know, you refrain from showing the physical characteristics, or at least trying to depict the physical characteristics.

00:02:54.340 Yeah, and I noticed at the beginning of the movie, they didn't actually show the face,

00:02:56.920 and it wasn't until near the end, like the middle to the end of the movie, where they showed the face,

00:02:59.980 and I'm like, wait a second, like, is this supposed to be the Prophet?

00:03:01.540 Another thing was, in relation to Fakmata Zahra, herself, I feel like they could have done a better job focusing in on her story specifically.

00:03:09.700 I felt like they kind of bounced around a little too much, rather than just focused on the life of Fakmata Zahra.

00:03:14.420 I'm assuming that these filmmakers were so, they're so enraged in hate, that apparently these people watched it,

00:03:42.800 that they didn't even talk about the story of Fatima, that they were just focused on just vilifying everyone else,

00:03:48.240 because they're saying, like, come on, the whole story is about her, and who you're showing is, as far as I know, but it seems like...

00:03:54.500 But, yeah, also, you know, this whole narrative of, and I'll mention it in my own video, but I'll mention it here again,

00:04:00.860 of Fatima being depicted, they didn't mention it, clearly it shows that they've got, they're Shiites, right? 0.99

00:04:05.100 Yeah.

00:04:05.560 But they didn't mention the fact that the whole story was made up.

00:04:08.600 Okay, good, which is very important.

00:04:09.560 This whole story of Omar ibn Khattab coming into the house and killing Fatima, and then the baby being killed, 0.55

00:04:14.400 and then she going out, apparently, some time after, and making a speech, whilst her husband was cowering or stuff,

00:04:20.480 which depicts Ali and Fatima in a very bad light.

00:04:23.580 Of course it does.

00:04:24.120 Forget about Omar ibn Khattab, your views on him.

00:04:27.540 We will always love and respect him, it's a part of our religion.

00:04:30.760 I mean, they don't need to.

00:04:33.000 It's fine, we'll see on the Day of Judgment who's right and who's wrong, but the thing is, this is ahistorical.

00:04:37.180 So let me get this right, so these two Shia, these individuals here, they are basically giving their feedback on a story that isn't real. 0.58

00:04:47.200 Yeah, exactly, yeah.

00:04:47.780 This is very important.

00:04:48.660 So let's carry on, because as we see...

00:04:50.620 The Shia mythology.

00:04:51.440 Yeah.

00:04:51.980 We wouldn't have a start, it was Obama, does it happen?

00:04:54.000 Yeah, that's true, like, the whole movie is called The Lady of Heaven, yet they don't really focus in much on her, which is odd.

00:04:59.300 One thing that I did like about the movie is when the Prophet Siyadana put the cloak on him, Imam Ali, Fatima Tazara, and Imam Hassan Imam Hasein.

00:05:06.240 So the fact that they included it at least shows the significance of that situation in relation to, like, their standing with the Prophet, their position in their religion.

00:05:13.500 And I like how the grandma, they had a very, you know, very affectionate grandma that was actually sharing the story with the kid.

00:05:18.760 I really like the way that they did it, it was a very good feeling.

00:05:20.440 And it kind of reminds me of the way that, like, I grew up, you know, it was just, that's how it was, you kind of grow up with these notions of our imams and our Prophet, and these teachings that, they're very heartwarming.

00:05:28.080 There's always a lesson for kids and grown-ups to be derived from their lives and do the things that they say and the things that they do.

00:05:32.180 So overall, we're happy that the story was told.

00:05:33.960 There was a lot of things that happened after the Prophet.

00:05:36.260 So you're happy, okay, so you're happy that the story was told, but the story, it's like me watching Superman.

00:05:43.920 No, no, it's worse than that, because at least Superman is a moral, it follows a certain structure.

00:05:49.660 There's thought put into this.

00:05:51.340 The story that they've put in these books, which narrates that Fatima was killed by Omar and all these things.

00:06:00.740 While Ali, radiallahu alaihi was there.

00:06:02.040 Was there and stuff like that.

00:06:03.280 I mean, this is the biggest, this movie is dishonoring Ali.

00:06:07.020 No, no, no, one second.

00:06:07.600 This movie was aimed to dishonor the companions, but in reality, I don't know if they show this in the movie,

00:06:13.740 as if Omar bin Khattab is coming in and killing her and Ali is there.

00:06:17.860 This is the greatest dishonor to a lion of Islam. 1.00

00:06:21.660 Ali, radiallahu alaihi, like this is someone the enemies would shake.

00:06:26.120 And you're telling me this man is in his house watching his wife being brutally killed?

00:06:33.660 Is that right?

00:06:34.820 Is that in the film? 0.99

00:06:37.040 All right, beaten, killed.

00:06:38.340 Is that in the film?

00:06:39.400 No, no, we don't know the film.

00:06:40.320 I'm saying a hadith.

00:06:41.400 Oh, that's the fake hadith. 0.97

00:06:42.360 The fake hadith, yeah. 0.94

00:06:43.020 So this is the greatest dishonor to Imam Ali.

00:06:46.700 And if you hold him to that status, which we do, the greatest disrespect is that you're telling me,

00:06:53.060 someone like Ali, a warrior, a lion is going to be there and somebody comes and slaps his wife,

00:06:58.680 and he kills her, and he's like, what can I do about it?

00:07:03.280 The greatest dishonor.

00:07:04.340 And you guys are acting and reacting to this as if it's a true story.

00:07:08.460 That's what bewilders me, bro.

00:07:09.660 I'm like, madness. 1.00

00:07:11.020 That's so stupid. 1.00

00:07:12.520 And ultimately, at the end of the day, history speaks for itself. 1.00

00:07:15.000 There are sources out there, so when there are films like this being made,

00:07:16.780 or there are narratives like this being pushed,

00:07:18.500 one just has to, you know, do the research on their own.

00:07:21.060 It's meant to spark the curiosity of the individual,

00:07:23.520 in order that they go and they do the research on their own.

00:07:25.120 So at the end of the day, this is the Shiite narrative,

00:07:26.240 and I'm glad that it was told that it reflected the oppression that the Aden Bait faced after the Prophet's death, 0.99

00:07:29.560 and the corruption that kind of transpired.

00:07:30.740 So would you like it if the Sunnis made a film and depicted,

00:07:34.360 I don't know, not that we can, we wouldn't.

00:07:37.140 12 months.

00:07:37.620 Yeah, yeah, imagine, imagine we did the same with the 12 months,

00:07:39.700 or these individuals that you guys hold, you know, are loved to you.

00:07:44.500 And imagine if we did that, would you go and say,

00:07:45.880 oh, it's freedom of expression, you should go and watch, you should make,

00:07:48.480 would you say that? You wouldn't say that.

00:07:49.540 You know you wouldn't say that.

00:07:50.680 So why is it with this?

00:07:51.640 Because to me, when you say this, to me, it's like, wow, okay, the Shiite community,

00:07:54.360 I'm not judging based on two individuals,

00:07:56.220 but you guys don't seem like, you don't seem like they're laughing at.

00:08:00.160 They don't care about disrespecting Sunnis. 1.00

00:08:02.060 No, exactly.

00:08:02.580 So to me, when I see two Shias doing this, 1.00

00:08:05.120 look, I've had Shias come into me, they say, 1.00

00:08:06.340 I don't do takfir of you guys.

00:08:08.180 I don't.

00:08:08.980 Yeah, I see you guys as my brothers and sisters.

00:08:10.700 I'll be very honest with you.

00:08:11.580 Unless you come and tell me that it's going to start cursing Aisha and her.

00:08:14.600 And I'll say to you, my friends, see you later.

00:08:16.900 The scholars that make that decision,

00:08:18.100 that anyone that insults the mother of the believer is a kafir. 0.96

00:08:20.420 So the thing is, we are trying to see from the Shiite and you two, 1.00

00:08:24.700 I'm not going to say you're a representative,

00:08:25.880 but what you're saying to him is worrying.

00:08:27.680 If you guys are saying this,

00:08:29.860 I don't know what to expect from the whole Shiite community. 1.00

00:08:31.920 I'll be honest with you.

00:08:32.640 Are you guys really this brainwashed to the level

00:08:35.640 that you're saying that to depict the Prophet is,

00:08:37.900 you mentioned that, which rightly so, 1.00

00:08:39.240 depicting is wrong, etc.

00:08:40.800 And you are coming here and telling us the Prophet,

00:08:42.760 his companions that he lived, fought with, battled,

00:08:46.300 like everything, these guys, the stuff they did,

00:08:49.380 and you're here.

00:08:50.140 This movie is basically tarnishing the image,

00:08:53.460 lying against them.

00:08:55.100 And if you are so concerned about the Prophet's image being shown,

00:08:57.180 which we all should, what about his companions?

00:08:59.380 How are they being degraded and insulted against?

00:09:01.920 Well, they don't care,

00:09:02.780 but the bigger picture here is for them as well.

00:09:06.280 This, as they write, it's not just controversial.

00:09:08.100 This guy's an extremist, Yasar Habith.

00:09:09.820 He's an extremist. 1.00

00:09:10.760 He's a terrorist. 0.92

00:09:11.400 Yeah, he's an individual who's actually got individuals, 0.68

00:09:13.940 militias, fighting on his behalf.

00:09:15.340 Yeah.

00:09:15.600 It's the equivalent of us taking someone from ISIS. 0.61

00:09:18.860 It's actually, I would say, way worse,

00:09:20.440 to be honest, in my view.

00:09:21.720 Taking someone from ISIS, their scripts, 0.86

00:09:23.560 and praising it, and talking of it,

00:09:24.840 and just saying it's good that it shows this without the other.

00:09:27.520 You know, it shows you that,

00:09:28.860 to be quite honest with you,

00:09:30.480 the standards are completely messed up, skewed up.

00:09:32.840 Exactly.

00:09:33.240 And quite honest,

00:09:34.860 it shows you the level of disrespect

00:09:36.640 that now individuals from the Shia community

00:09:39.020 think they can give us.

00:09:40.300 Don't try and disrespect us.

00:09:41.340 Imagine Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,

00:09:43.760 which is actually going to have the words.

00:09:44.740 He doesn't represent us.

00:09:45.600 Doing a video like this,

00:09:46.540 and then we go, oh, you know, it's free,

00:09:47.600 you know, if you want to watch it.

00:09:48.340 You know, it was good.

00:09:49.080 Don't get comfortable.

00:09:49.820 Don't get comfortable.

00:09:50.980 Yeah?

00:09:51.840 Try and depict our sacred symbols in a manner,

00:09:54.480 and then just coming out nonchalantly speaking.

00:09:56.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:56.460 Don't get comfortable,

00:09:57.720 because believe me,

00:09:58.180 that's going to create some rift

00:09:59.180 that we don't want in the community.

00:10:01.400 Exactly.

00:10:19.340 Move that away, man.

00:10:20.080 No, no, no, no, no.

00:10:30.040 You guys are being sly here.

00:10:31.520 You're basically saying,

00:10:32.440 you don't need to make the person bad,

00:10:33.720 tell the story,

00:10:34.440 because in the story he is bad.

00:10:35.880 Yeah.

00:10:36.120 That's what you're trying to say.

00:10:36.740 The story is a story,

00:10:37.120 but it's a false story.

00:10:37.780 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:38.480 So you're saying basically...

00:10:39.420 And he's depicted as a black man, right?

00:10:41.300 I don't know.

00:10:41.920 Yeah, I think, isn't that correct?

00:10:43.360 They're depicted with black skin and stuff like that.

00:10:44.980 All the antagonists are depicted in black skin.

00:10:47.200 How come you didn't say anything about that?

00:10:48.760 Yeah.

00:10:49.640 How come you didn't say anything about that?

00:10:50.960 Yeah.

00:10:51.420 It's that casual racism

00:10:52.860 that you've got now going on in the Shia community.

00:10:54.800 Is that what's happening here?

00:10:55.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:57.120 Let's watch the last 15 seconds.

00:10:59.300 I mean, I would say don't watch it.

00:11:00.220 I would say watch it.

00:11:01.180 You're a free person.

00:11:02.360 You were born free.

00:11:02.860 You're not as a free thinker.

00:11:04.200 So I think you're exactly safe.

00:11:05.780 You should make your own decision.

00:11:06.420 Yeah, figure out your own truth.

00:11:07.300 Okay, fine.

00:11:08.620 Yeah, that's it.

00:11:09.480 I mean, that's it, man.

00:11:10.260 Look, these people, man,

00:11:11.460 they think they should come out.

00:11:12.700 We need voices of condemnation.

00:11:15.060 Yeah?

00:11:15.460 Don't come out and speak about

00:11:16.720 the Sunni people like that

00:11:17.840 and try and say,

00:11:18.600 don't do that

00:11:19.620 because you wouldn't like it

00:11:20.920 the other way around.

00:11:21.680 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:22.120 You wouldn't like it

00:11:22.680 if some other person

00:11:23.620 come and start from,

00:11:25.040 we wouldn't do it

00:11:25.540 because you know we wouldn't do it

00:11:26.360 because we hold them sacred as well.

00:11:27.740 But let's say someone

00:11:28.500 from another religion

00:11:29.160 starts to do with Ali

00:11:31.060 what you guys did with Omar.

00:11:32.680 Just think of it like that.

00:11:33.460 Yeah, and would you like it

00:11:34.380 if we come and said,

00:11:34.900 you know what,

00:11:35.260 we can't see it anyway.

00:11:36.380 So imagine if I was an atheist

00:11:37.820 and I said,

00:11:38.420 oh, you know what,

00:11:39.600 it's your,

00:11:40.060 you're born free.

00:11:41.080 Yeah, they won't have it both ways.

00:11:42.520 Wallahi, wallahi,

00:11:43.340 how would you,

00:11:43.680 you would hate it.

00:11:44.720 They won't have it both ways.

00:11:45.020 You would hate it.

00:11:45.640 This is the issue 0.91

00:11:46.180 with this whole freedom of nonsense.

00:11:47.920 Yeah, when it's done

00:11:48.720 towards the other person,

00:11:49.420 this is what it shows me

00:11:50.500 that you two,

00:11:52.060 these two individuals,

00:11:53.120 you actually promote it.

00:11:54.940 You promote it.

00:11:55.520 Don't come and say to me,

00:11:56.100 you are promoting it.

00:11:57.360 You are happy with it.

00:11:58.460 That's what you're showing me.

00:11:59.240 You are using certain words here and there,

00:12:01.500 but you are basically saying,

00:12:02.500 you know, go and watch,

00:12:03.380 see what they really did.

00:12:04.500 And basically,

00:12:05.100 in a nutshell,

00:12:05.560 is the story true?

00:12:06.820 It's not true, man.

00:12:08.680 It's not true.

00:12:09.540 It's fake.

00:12:10.160 It's not true.

00:12:10.800 Give us the evidence that it's true.

00:12:12.480 Yes, true.

00:12:13.680 Yeah, that's not true.

00:12:14.740 Exactly.

00:12:15.160 But yeah, that's it.

00:12:16.100 That's it, brothers and sisters.

00:12:17.100 You guys make your decision,

00:12:18.040 inshallah.

00:12:18.620 We don't want anyone

00:12:19.160 to go send hate to them. 0.80

00:12:20.280 We're just telling you straight up.

00:12:21.320 It worries us to see

00:12:22.860 the Shia community.

00:12:24.380 Like I said,

00:12:24.680 I don't want to judge them

00:12:25.240 based on these two individuals.

00:12:26.400 Very concerning.

00:12:27.320 Very concerning.

00:12:28.280 And we will, inshallah,

00:12:29.420 not allow these movies

00:12:30.400 or these filth,

00:12:31.440 what was the name?

00:12:33.380 Habif.

00:12:33.780 Habif, yeah.

00:12:34.520 So Habif to cause, 1.00

00:12:35.980 you know,

00:12:36.720 for us Shias and Sunnis

00:12:38.180 to fight each other.

00:12:39.500 We don't want to go down that route.

00:12:40.740 They're trying to do that

00:12:41.700 and we're not.

00:12:42.400 The time we did that,

00:12:42.880 you know, when the Shia, 1.00

00:12:43.840 the place of worship

00:12:46.640 was attacked.

00:12:47.680 Me, you, we went there.

00:12:48.920 Me, you and Sheikh Abif,

00:12:49.680 we actually went there.

00:12:50.700 You know why?

00:12:51.420 Because we said, you know,

00:12:52.160 the person who did it,

00:12:52.860 he didn't say Shia Sunni.

00:12:54.120 Yeah?

00:12:54.340 So we went there.

00:12:55.280 So no one can come and tell us,

00:12:56.280 oh, you hate Shias, 1.00

00:12:57.420 this kind of nonsense. 0.99

00:12:58.500 But if you're going to come to us

00:12:59.240 with that,

00:12:59.820 you know,

00:13:00.300 it's true.

00:13:00.640 Yeah, we will see a different side to us.

00:13:01.860 And when I'm a different side,

00:13:03.440 I'm talking about, you know,

00:13:04.340 showing your true colors.

00:13:05.800 That's right, that's right.

00:13:06.400 Until next time,

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Ali Dawah - June 11, 2022

2 SUNNIES REACT TO 2 SHIAS ON RAFIDA MOVIE

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