Ali Dawah - October 19, 2024


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In this episode, we talk about the difference between Christians and Muslims on the issue of whether or not God is a divine being. Do you believe in God or not? What does the Bible say about God and what does it say about the Bible?

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00:00:00.160 He's saying the father knows when the hour is. He's saying, I do not know where the hour is.
00:00:04.720 So he is ignorant. He's saying, I do not know. One second, was he crucified on the cross? 0.99
00:00:10.200 Yes.
00:00:10.880 Is that weakness or power?
00:00:12.360 That's power.
00:00:12.860 Power.
00:00:13.420 To us, yes.
00:00:14.000 To us, it's power.
00:00:15.260 God's dying on the cross is power.
00:00:16.640 Yes.
00:00:17.200 For our sins.
00:00:18.280 For our sins.
00:00:19.300 For our sins.
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00:00:39.900 Please go to the link and donate whatever you can, inshallah.
00:00:42.440 And let this be a sadaqah ja'ari that you use there for your brothers and sisters when they need you.
00:00:46.820 Do you know what we believe about Jesus?
00:00:48.500 Yeah.
00:00:49.180 You do know we believe he's the Messiah.
00:00:51.060 We believe he's a prophet.
00:00:52.240 We believe he had a miraculous birth.
00:00:53.620 We believe in his mother, Mary.
00:00:54.740 We have a whole chapter on Mary in the Qur'an.
00:00:58.460 The whole chapter is called Mary.
00:01:00.380 And it talks about the birth that they had which was, you know, Jesus, etc.
00:01:05.560 So we believe, the only difference is the following.
00:01:07.720 We don't believe Jesus is God.
00:01:09.200 We don't believe he claims to be God.
00:01:11.600 We believe God is the Father who sent Jesus.
00:01:14.600 That's why if you look into the book of John 17, verse 3, it talks about the one true God, the one who sent Jesus.
00:01:20.460 So Jesus talks about his God.
00:01:22.060 So I'm sure, do you believe Jesus is God?
00:01:23.900 Yes.
00:01:24.940 Okay.
00:01:25.360 But you do know that nowhere in the Bible he claims to be divine.
00:01:28.300 There's nowhere in the Bible he said, I am God.
00:01:30.640 Do you guys know that?
00:01:31.640 He does say, whoever comes from the Father comes from me.
00:01:34.960 Yes, but the thing is, for example, if you look at that person.
00:01:37.340 In Genesis, it also speaks about how the word of God is, yeah, like, he is his word.
00:01:43.460 And the word is God.
00:01:44.180 Okay.
00:01:44.600 Word meaning what?
00:01:45.420 And the word is God.
00:01:46.420 Okay.
00:01:46.840 Okay.
00:01:47.140 So we say in the beginning was the word.
00:01:48.760 Yeah.
00:01:49.080 The word was with God.
00:01:51.360 And the word was God.
00:01:52.740 Okay, good.
00:01:53.600 So the thing is this.
00:01:54.700 If in the beginning the word was with God, there's God and the word was with God.
00:02:00.700 Yeah.
00:02:01.140 How many?
00:02:01.380 And then the word was God.
00:02:03.020 Okay.
00:02:03.580 But then, okay.
00:02:04.920 But the thing is, if the word, if the God is the word, if the word is God and he is with God, how many gods?
00:02:12.760 Two.
00:02:13.680 Because there's a Father and there's a God.
00:02:15.620 So we say, no way Jesus said, like, for example, when he says, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father.
00:02:20.240 As I am in the Father.
00:02:22.300 If you listen, if you look into those other verses, he clearly said the same thing with his companions.
00:02:26.000 There is no way explicitly he says that.
00:02:28.340 Like, for example, when prophets came down with a message, if you disobeyed the prophet, you disobeyed God.
00:02:33.540 So it doesn't mean the prophet is God as well.
00:02:35.840 But there is, if you look into the Bible, nowhere.
00:02:38.520 And Jesus himself, when he went to the mountain of Gethsemane, he prostrated and he prayed.
00:02:42.820 He's always referred.
00:02:43.980 In John 17, 3, clearly says, the one true God whom sent Jesus.
00:02:48.660 But also, when 1 Timothy, he said, he was fully man, but he was also fully God.
00:02:55.620 Where?
00:02:56.520 In 1 Timothy?
00:02:59.460 In the Bible.
00:03:00.760 And if the Bible is the word of God.
00:03:04.540 If it is.
00:03:05.880 No, the Bible is.
00:03:07.500 Do you have evidence for that?
00:03:08.500 Because the Bible has been changed.
00:03:09.740 But it is.
00:03:10.740 I mean, it's being translated.
00:03:12.860 Translation is separate.
00:03:13.700 I accept the translation.
00:03:14.340 We have the translation of the Quran.
00:03:15.720 But the Bible has been changed.
00:03:17.960 The Christians accept that.
00:03:20.060 But if it's been changed, how could it be the word of God?
00:03:22.500 The thing is, the Bible hasn't been changed.
00:03:24.500 It has.
00:03:24.720 There's different versions of the Bible.
00:03:27.040 People, there's some people that still read the original Bible.
00:03:30.860 There is no original Bible.
00:03:32.180 There is.
00:03:33.900 If you, really, you have Codes Sinaiticus, yeah?
00:03:36.280 The earliest one you have.
00:03:37.460 That goes 100 years later.
00:03:40.020 There is not, if you look into the Bible, if you go to John 7, 5, 3 to Mark 8, 11,
00:03:43.980 it has a little footnote.
00:03:44.960 It tells you, you know the story of the adulterer?
00:03:47.960 When Jesus says, he with no sin cast the first stone.
00:03:51.380 Yeah.
00:03:52.040 Do you know this is a fabricated story?
00:03:53.840 If you go to your Bible, it'll have a little footnote and tell you,
00:03:56.000 this does not belong to us.
00:03:57.180 Because I started, before I came to, before I chose any religion,
00:04:00.600 I looked into the Bible, I looked into Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism.
00:04:03.440 I was so searching.
00:04:04.880 And I read the Bible.
00:04:05.660 One of the reasons I didn't accept the Bible was for two reasons.
00:04:07.760 Number one, Scripture not being preserved.
00:04:10.860 The Quran has been memorized by millions.
00:04:12.760 It's the way it is.
00:04:13.440 But that doesn't mean it's from God.
00:04:15.020 But at least it's preserved.
00:04:16.340 Number two, it has prophecies.
00:04:18.100 If you say it's preserved, but doesn't mean it's from God,
00:04:20.900 that kind of destroys the main pattern of following,
00:04:24.440 So for example,
00:04:25.520 following the words and the passage.
00:04:26.440 Yeah, for example, the reason, the reason, I don't,
00:04:28.520 The whole point, sorry.
00:04:29.760 No, sorry, sorry, finish this.
00:04:30.400 I'm saying the whole point is,
00:04:32.520 If you're saying,
00:04:33.240 Oh, just because it's preserved,
00:04:34.440 you believe it more.
00:04:35.700 Not necessarily because it's from God.
00:04:37.780 That kind of deteats the point of why we follow God.
00:04:41.120 So we are Christians because we follow,
00:04:43.000 not about preserved,
00:04:44.480 but we know that this is the word of God.
00:04:47.400 Because even in the Quran, 0.99
00:04:49.280 like you guys say,
00:04:50.240 that you guys should,
00:04:51.140 people should also read the Bible,
00:04:53.480 they should read the,
00:04:54.780 The testament that was given to Jesus.
00:04:57.260 Not what you have today.
00:04:58.540 What I'm saying is to follow him.
00:04:59.320 When I say the Quran is preserved, 0.98
00:05:01.040 I'm saying that this doesn't necessarily be the reason why it's from God.
00:05:05.460 Preservation means that what was sent down is exactly what we have today.
00:05:09.660 That shows, number one,
00:05:10.620 that it has not been changed by mankind.
00:05:13.040 Number two,
00:05:13.560 what makes it divine is what is inside it.
00:05:16.020 The Quran has prophecies,
00:05:17.900 specific prophecies.
00:05:18.640 In the Bible, it says,
00:05:19.340 You shall know them by their fruit and by their prophecies.
00:05:22.000 The Prophet Muhammad,
00:05:22.640 he said,
00:05:22.740 He made specific prophecies.
00:05:24.600 All of them have come true.
00:05:26.240 It cannot be a coincidence,
00:05:27.200 number one.
00:05:27.880 Number two,
00:05:28.300 it affirms what the old scriptures were saying.
00:05:30.840 It affirms Jesus. 0.73
00:05:31.920 It affirms Mary.
00:05:32.920 It affirms Moses. 0.93
00:05:34.280 It affirms the testament that was given to Jesus.
00:05:36.680 So, when you read your Bible,
00:05:37.640 it says,
00:05:37.880 Jesus went to Galilee and preached the gospel.
00:05:40.360 What gospel?
00:05:41.220 Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John.
00:05:42.460 They came hundreds of years later.
00:05:44.080 Which gospel was the Christian? 0.52
00:05:46.020 The gospel of,
00:05:47.440 good.
00:05:47.960 So, the good news,
00:05:49.220 so the good news, we call it,
00:05:50.220 what Jesus,
00:05:50.880 you know,
00:05:51.360 we call it the Injil.
00:05:53.420 In the Quran,
00:05:53.940 it tells us that Jesus was given the Injil.
00:05:56.220 We believe he preached that gospel that he had.
00:05:59.860 Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John
00:06:01.040 are individuals that never met Jesus,
00:06:02.940 never spoke to Jesus,
00:06:03.780 never walked with Jesus,
00:06:04.960 who are claiming things that they don't know about Jesus.
00:06:07.520 Imagine I talk about you,
00:06:08.740 400 years after you died.
00:06:10.500 I don't know nothing about you.
00:06:11.200 I never lived at the time.
00:06:12.440 Did you get it?
00:06:12.820 They did.
00:06:13.980 They lived at that time.
00:06:15.480 Mark, Matthew, Luke, I promise you,
00:06:16.800 I'm not, look, check, fact check.
00:06:18.500 Matthew was one of the,
00:06:19.520 there are disciples that walk with Jesus.
00:06:22.460 No, Matthew, no, Matthew.
00:06:23.780 Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John.
00:06:25.260 No, no, no, none of them, none of them.
00:06:26.680 Matthew was a disciple.
00:06:27.320 Therefore, the disciple that walked with Jesus,
00:06:29.220 because he was,
00:06:29.740 I remember watching.
00:06:30.420 Before, he was,
00:06:32.280 he was a,
00:06:32.300 one of those little tax collector.
00:06:34.200 Yeah.
00:06:34.500 And then he then walked with Jesus.
00:06:35.180 Yes, yes, yes.
00:06:36.280 But he was a tax collector, yes.
00:06:37.720 He then walked with Jesus.
00:06:38.740 So, he was,
00:06:39.820 he was a,
00:06:40.660 he was a tax collector.
00:06:41.480 Look,
00:06:42.720 Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John,
00:06:44.100 go to Christians, forget me. 1.00
00:06:45.360 Fact checked.
00:06:46.240 When you read the new,
00:06:47.440 John's commentary of the Bible,
00:06:49.160 he talks about John, yeah?
00:06:51.160 He says,
00:06:51.760 we don't know who John is.
00:06:52.520 We don't know if it's John the son of Zebedee,
00:06:53.960 John the presbyter,
00:06:54.680 John the apostle.
00:06:55.700 These individuals that have been given these names,
00:06:57.740 we do not know,
00:06:58.880 I'm not talking about me, forget me.
00:07:00.260 Christian authorship does not know
00:07:01.680 who they are.
00:07:03.100 Names were given to these people.
00:07:04.540 These people never met Jesus.
00:07:06.380 Never,
00:07:06.560 this is what's the funny bit.
00:07:07.640 They talk about him being,
00:07:08.580 crucified.
00:07:10.040 How could you be an eyewitness
00:07:11.760 when you never,
00:07:12.720 there's not a timeline
00:07:13.420 between these individuals and Jesus?
00:07:15.460 So, what we say is,
00:07:16.360 that's the reason why
00:07:17.080 you have the Old Testament,
00:07:18.540 you have the New Testament,
00:07:19.860 you have the Final Testament.
00:07:21.040 Why?
00:07:21.500 Because the Quran had to come down. 0.91
00:07:22.680 Let me ask you a simple question.
00:07:23.440 If God Almighty sends a scripture
00:07:25.080 and that scripture gets corrupted,
00:07:27.220 what do you think God will do in his wisdom
00:07:29.440 to correct that?
00:07:31.600 What do you think he would do?
00:07:32.600 Okay, so...
00:07:33.100 I cannot.
00:07:33.980 What would he do?
00:07:34.660 As a man,
00:07:35.900 we should never try to understand
00:07:37.460 what God would possibly do.
00:07:39.000 Because God works in different ways.
00:07:41.040 If we look at the Old Testament
00:07:43.620 and you're like,
00:07:45.000 oh,
00:07:45.500 God saw sin
00:07:46.480 and then God decided to flood the whole earth 0.99
00:07:48.780 and kill everyone. 0.97
00:07:50.780 Would I think that's what God would do 1.00
00:07:52.980 as a human?
00:07:54.180 Possibly not.
00:07:55.180 If I was back at that time
00:07:56.420 and someone asked me,
00:07:56.940 they're not the most wise, yeah.
00:07:58.040 What would God do?
00:07:59.160 Yeah.
00:07:59.420 Oh,
00:07:59.720 now that he sees that everyone's sinning,
00:08:01.380 do you think,
00:08:01.880 I would never guess that,
00:08:03.040 oh,
00:08:03.220 God was going to flood the whole earth
00:08:04.520 and...
00:08:05.260 But he sent them signs.
00:08:06.440 Yeah,
00:08:06.640 but I'm saying...
00:08:07.020 Yeah,
00:08:07.280 he sent them signs and signs.
00:08:08.220 No one's up.
00:08:09.340 But it doesn't mean
00:08:09.920 that would be my first guess.
00:08:11.660 No,
00:08:11.960 but...
00:08:12.280 True.
00:08:12.480 But that's what I'm saying.
00:08:13.340 I,
00:08:13.620 for the question that you just asked,
00:08:14.640 I cannot give an appropriate answer
00:08:16.180 because I'm not God,
00:08:17.960 nor do I know God's intention.
00:08:19.520 I'm not going to ever judge
00:08:20.620 or create any judgment
00:08:21.980 that God can create.
00:08:23.220 So I cannot answer that question.
00:08:24.640 True,
00:08:26.940 if I was to put myself in the position
00:08:28.880 from a God's angle,
00:08:30.000 if he sent scripture
00:08:30.820 and those scriptures got corrupted,
00:08:32.200 the very simple logical thing I'll do is
00:08:33.880 send,
00:08:34.940 yes,
00:08:35.240 corrupted.
00:08:35.980 I will send another prophet 1.00
00:08:37.420 with another message
00:08:38.960 and preserve that
00:08:40.020 and correct the mistake information.
00:08:41.580 That's exactly what God has done.
00:08:43.560 No,
00:08:43.660 but that's what God has done.
00:08:46.960 Exactly.
00:08:47.520 No,
00:08:47.640 no,
00:08:47.740 no.
00:08:47.860 God has sent the prophets.
00:08:48.740 No,
00:08:48.920 that's what I'm saying.
00:08:49.880 He sent the prophets
00:08:50.580 and it has been written down in his word.
00:08:54.420 Okay,
00:08:54.660 but what we're saying is the word that you have...
00:08:56.160 He's saying that...
00:08:56.760 the word is corrupted.
00:08:57.280 Oh,
00:08:57.300 after Jesus cried,
00:08:58.800 that the word that got corrupted.
00:09:00.460 So what would God do
00:09:01.700 after Jesus cried?
00:09:02.640 Send the scripture up.
00:09:03.760 When that's technically to us,
00:09:04.720 it's actually the final...
00:09:06.700 The Quran.
00:09:07.220 The Quran and the prophet Muhammad.
00:09:08.680 My argument is
00:09:09.560 he would send another prophet 1.00
00:09:10.920 that will look,
00:09:12.320 Jesus said,
00:09:13.020 I've got many things to say unto you,
00:09:14.520 but you cannot bear them now.
00:09:15.900 For he,
00:09:16.260 when the spirit of truth shall come,
00:09:17.720 he shall guide you one to all truth.
00:09:19.160 He shall not speak of himself
00:09:20.500 as he hears it shall speak
00:09:22.000 and he shall glorify me.
00:09:23.600 One second,
00:09:24.140 put Islam to a side. 0.99
00:09:25.380 Show me one religion 0.96
00:09:26.500 that glorifies Jesus,
00:09:28.140 believes he's a Messiah,
00:09:29.080 believes in his mother,
00:09:29.920 believes in his miracles,
00:09:31.020 believes he's going to come back 0.91
00:09:31.780 and kill the Antichrist 1.00
00:09:32.560 except from Islam. 1.00
00:09:34.080 Show me one religion 0.96
00:09:35.000 that glorifies Jesus
00:09:35.980 the way we do,
00:09:36.920 the way the prophet Muhammad, 0.94
00:09:37.820 when he heard the message,
00:09:38.860 what does he say?
00:09:39.240 As he hears he shall speak,
00:09:41.020 he shall glorify me.
00:09:42.080 So Jesus is saying,
00:09:42.800 I've got many things to say unto you,
00:09:44.440 but you cannot bear them now.
00:09:45.960 For he,
00:09:46.580 he says,
00:09:46.980 he when the spirit of truth shall come.
00:09:49.220 So the question is the following.
00:09:50.680 When the prophet Muhammad came, 1.00
00:09:51.720 he did not preach anything different.
00:09:53.500 He said to us,
00:09:54.460 God is one.
00:09:55.420 When you look at Jesus,
00:09:56.600 everywhere,
00:09:57.300 Jesus,
00:09:57.620 when his companion came to him and said,
00:09:59.400 oh good master,
00:10:00.260 what must I do to get eternal life?
00:10:02.100 He said,
00:10:02.420 why do you call me good?
00:10:03.460 There is only one good
00:10:04.380 and that is God.
00:10:05.640 Every single time,
00:10:06.640 God's giving credit to the father.
00:10:08.480 If somebody's giving credit,
00:10:09.620 if you come and say to me,
00:10:10.360 Ali,
00:10:10.740 that picture is beautiful,
00:10:12.220 man.
00:10:12.380 I go,
00:10:12.840 to be honest,
00:10:13.420 I didn't draw it,
00:10:14.080 man.
00:10:14.300 You want to meet my teacher?
00:10:15.640 You are thanking me
00:10:16.660 and I'm telling you
00:10:17.420 who the source of that is.
00:10:19.340 So when we are thanking Jesus
00:10:20.800 or even Muhammad,
00:10:21.880 I don't care who it is for that matter,
00:10:22.800 or Moses,
00:10:23.560 who deserves true credit?
00:10:25.080 You guys,
00:10:25.440 how old are you?
00:10:25.900 Don't mind me asking.
00:10:26.420 I know it's not a chance
00:10:26.860 to ladies age,
00:10:27.440 but we're in our 20s.
00:10:28.540 You're in our 20s, yeah?
00:10:29.440 Imagine you give birth.
00:10:30.600 You have kids.
00:10:31.080 When are you going to have kids?
00:10:31.900 Yeah, hopefully.
00:10:32.760 Imagine your children grow up
00:10:33.860 and they say,
00:10:34.820 you know what,
00:10:35.160 mom,
00:10:35.340 you've done nothing for me.
00:10:36.240 I'm going to go and thank David.
00:10:37.900 Even if you're telling us David,
00:10:39.240 when we associate partners to God,
00:10:41.380 and what's the second
00:10:41.980 or third commandment?
00:10:44.020 Thou shall not worship 0.91
00:10:45.620 any other gods.
00:10:47.020 So we're saying,
00:10:47.860 as Muslims,
00:10:48.480 the only thing we're saying is this.
00:10:50.060 You Christians are close to us.
00:10:52.240 We can marry from you guys.
00:10:53.480 We can eat from your food.
00:10:54.780 You guys are very close.
00:10:55.740 You've lived with us in centuries.
00:10:57.060 Muslims, Jews,
00:10:57.720 and Christians have lived together.
00:10:59.200 The only thing that the Quran 0.88
00:11:00.540 tells us is the following.
00:11:01.700 Tell the people of the book,
00:11:03.460 let's come to common terms
00:11:04.820 between us and you
00:11:05.820 that we worship God alone.
00:11:07.340 The only thing we're saying is,
00:11:08.800 let's worship the one
00:11:10.000 that Jesus worshipped,
00:11:11.340 which is God.
00:11:11.900 That's the only thing we're asking.
00:11:13.220 Other than that,
00:11:13.760 the major differences are not there.
00:11:14.860 We've got a lot of things in common.
00:11:16.320 But the only thing is this,
00:11:17.640 let's give credit
00:11:18.640 to the one that's created us.
00:11:20.420 Your heart is beating.
00:11:21.340 Do you ask your heart to beat?
00:11:23.360 Do you ask your lungs to breathe
00:11:24.440 when you're sleeping?
00:11:25.800 No, you don't.
00:11:26.740 For example, your eyesight.
00:11:28.300 Who gave you this?
00:11:29.020 Jesus or God?
00:11:29.540 Did God give you this?
00:11:31.880 Did God make you a heart
00:11:32.920 or did Jesus?
00:11:33.760 To us, they're one.
00:11:35.100 To us, they're one of the same.
00:11:38.260 How?
00:11:38.840 I give you an example.
00:11:40.640 You can give me no example
00:11:41.620 about the Trinity.
00:11:42.500 Go on.
00:11:42.840 Water, ice, and steam.
00:11:44.260 Steam.
00:11:44.580 Yes, uno.
00:11:45.240 So they're all in this,
00:11:46.120 they're all different form
00:11:47.140 but aren't the same.
00:11:48.640 And I think the things with,
00:11:50.400 not that,
00:11:50.920 I understand the whole like,
00:11:52.100 you know,
00:11:52.300 brother and sister in faith
00:11:53.820 and like,
00:11:54.780 how that works.
00:11:55.760 But I think the major difference
00:11:57.300 in what we believe as Christians
00:11:59.140 is that
00:12:00.460 we,
00:12:02.980 God will,
00:12:03.880 we can never
00:12:04.760 fully understand God.
00:12:06.320 He is God.
00:12:07.360 True.
00:12:08.640 I never said that.
00:12:09.660 You know what I'm saying?
00:12:10.620 So who are you to not believe
00:12:12.040 that God can truly bring himself
00:12:13.720 as a man?
00:12:15.080 As he knows that he's the true,
00:12:16.800 the only covenant,
00:12:18.280 the only one
00:12:18.720 because they had been
00:12:19.780 in the past.
00:12:20.600 But you don't believe that.
00:12:21.020 In the Old Testament.
00:12:21.840 In the Old Testament.
00:12:22.460 You don't believe that.
00:12:23.280 What do you mean?
00:12:23.880 You said God can be a man.
00:12:25.680 No.
00:12:26.300 God can come
00:12:27.400 as a man.
00:12:27.960 As a man.
00:12:28.860 Okay, one second.
00:12:29.860 Alright.
00:12:30.220 Do you believe that?
00:12:31.880 Do you genuinely believe
00:12:32.880 that God can come as a man?
00:12:33.800 Like me?
00:12:34.140 Like flesh, bones?
00:12:34.980 Yes.
00:12:35.260 Okay, alright.
00:12:35.960 That's what it is.
00:12:36.800 That's what it is.
00:12:37.900 I mean, it's proof.
00:12:38.840 Okay, another problem.
00:12:40.060 Just hear me out.
00:12:40.800 Okay, hear me out.
00:12:41.740 Hear me out.
00:12:42.240 Hear me out and tell me
00:12:42.880 if I'm wrong.
00:12:43.700 No egos.
00:12:44.640 We're here for the truth, yeah?
00:12:45.520 Yeah, yeah.
00:12:45.880 Let's put ego.
00:12:46.620 I'm not here to win an argument.
00:12:47.500 No, no, no, no.
00:12:47.940 I'm not here for the truth.
00:12:49.280 Okay.
00:12:50.460 Can God lie?
00:12:52.700 Why not?
00:12:54.320 Why not?
00:12:55.460 Because you said
00:12:55.820 God can do anything.
00:12:57.420 Good.
00:12:58.240 Now, what you've done is
00:12:59.180 you use your
00:12:59.820 rational and logical.
00:13:01.040 You don't need Christianity, 1.00
00:13:02.080 Islam or Judaism for that. 0.73
00:13:03.300 If we put all religions aside 1.00
00:13:04.640 and say,
00:13:05.260 about God.
00:13:06.020 If I said,
00:13:06.680 you know what, guys?
00:13:07.780 God can lie.
00:13:08.720 What would you say to me?
00:13:09.320 No.
00:13:09.920 Because God is all perfect.
00:13:11.200 Yeah.
00:13:11.600 So you are rejecting
00:13:13.080 and you're refusing
00:13:14.460 to reject an attribute
00:13:15.460 of lying
00:13:16.060 because of how perfect he is.
00:13:18.280 Jesus is perfect.
00:13:19.380 Okay.
00:13:19.860 No, one second.
00:13:20.300 That's why he was
00:13:21.040 the one that we should
00:13:22.120 call him.
00:13:23.340 Because he's like
00:13:24.160 a man.
00:13:26.240 These are things
00:13:26.940 you're quoting from the Bible.
00:13:29.220 Obviously, we're Christians.
00:13:30.420 So this is not,
00:13:31.060 the same way like
00:13:31.880 with the logic behind
00:13:33.440 what you preach.
00:13:34.300 It's also based on the
00:13:35.620 which is understandable.
00:13:36.900 No, no, no.
00:13:37.300 My logic and rational,
00:13:38.180 I'm putting the Quran to a side. 1.00
00:13:39.140 Let's put the Quran to a side. 1.00
00:13:39.920 Let's put the Bible to a side. 0.90
00:13:41.000 We're talking about God.
00:13:41.760 Yeah, but...
00:13:42.400 Let's just talk about God
00:13:43.820 because you know what?
00:13:44.220 This will make sense.
00:13:45.600 Can God lie?
00:13:46.220 You said no.
00:13:46.820 Yeah.
00:13:47.340 Good.
00:13:47.560 Because it goes against
00:13:48.180 his attribute.
00:13:48.780 He speaks the truth.
00:13:50.140 Okay. 0.98
00:13:50.360 Can God die? 0.86
00:13:52.800 No.
00:13:53.580 No, because it goes
00:13:54.480 against his attribute.
00:13:55.580 True.
00:13:56.240 So now you said
00:13:56.920 he cannot lie
00:13:57.540 because he goes
00:13:58.060 against who he is.
00:13:58.980 You said he cannot die
00:13:59.880 because he goes
00:14:00.240 against who he is.
00:14:01.000 When you say
00:14:01.660 he became a man,
00:14:02.940 you're saying 0.98
00:14:03.400 he became ignorant? 0.99
00:14:05.040 He became weak? 0.99
00:14:06.460 But that's your attribution.
00:14:07.980 One second.
00:14:08.960 The man of a guy.
00:14:10.420 Okay.
00:14:10.700 He came as a perfect man
00:14:12.420 as a lamb.
00:14:13.500 Did Jesus...
00:14:14.140 He was white.
00:14:15.280 Jesus never lied.
00:14:16.440 He was never...
00:14:16.720 Sister, sister. 0.57
00:14:17.240 He was never ignorant.
00:14:18.940 One second.
00:14:19.340 He was everything
00:14:19.740 that we were not.
00:14:20.340 He was everything
00:14:21.480 that we were not.
00:14:22.420 Okay.
00:14:22.640 And you might say,
00:14:23.140 oh, if you're going to
00:14:23.960 give the thing of anger,
00:14:25.520 even in the Bible,
00:14:26.620 God is angry.
00:14:28.520 I accept that.
00:14:28.980 God also shows anger.
00:14:29.840 Fine.
00:14:30.100 So therefore,
00:14:30.820 the only thing that you can say
00:14:32.000 to me that Jesus has done
00:14:33.660 which you might be like
00:14:34.660 is mad
00:14:35.200 is to show anger.
00:14:36.620 No, no, no, no.
00:14:37.240 Not even that.
00:14:38.320 I have no problem
00:14:39.240 with his anger.
00:14:39.780 You know,
00:14:39.920 when he flipped the tables,
00:14:40.700 I have no problem with that.
00:14:42.720 You said that
00:14:43.520 when they came and said to him,
00:14:44.800 when is the hour?
00:14:46.080 What did he say?
00:14:47.100 He said no one knows the hour. 0.91
00:14:48.400 Oh, you said he was not ignorant.
00:14:49.900 But apart from him? 0.93
00:14:50.880 The father.
00:14:51.340 Okay.
00:14:51.700 Okay.
00:14:51.960 One second.
00:14:53.680 If he is God
00:14:55.380 and they're coming
00:14:55.820 and saying to him,
00:14:56.620 when is the hour?
00:14:58.320 He's saying,
00:14:58.940 I do not know the hour.
00:15:00.420 Not the angels in heaven
00:15:01.360 except the father.
00:15:02.940 One second.
00:15:03.460 Please hear me out.
00:15:04.400 He's saying the father
00:15:05.560 knows when the hour is.
00:15:07.180 He's saying,
00:15:07.820 I do not know
00:15:08.480 when the father is.
00:15:09.240 I do not know
00:15:09.800 when the hour is. 1.00
00:15:10.600 So he is ignorant. 0.99
00:15:12.000 He's saying, 1.00
00:15:12.320 I do not know.
00:15:14.320 One second.
00:15:14.960 Was he crucified on the cross?
00:15:16.900 Yes.
00:15:17.760 Is that weakness or power?
00:15:19.700 That's power.
00:15:20.140 Power.
00:15:20.700 To us, yes.
00:15:21.300 To us is power.
00:15:22.220 God dying on the cross
00:15:23.460 is power.
00:15:23.900 Yes.
00:15:24.480 For our sins.
00:15:25.580 For our sins.
00:15:26.580 You know how?
00:15:27.400 Yes.
00:15:27.580 You were,
00:15:28.020 you were,
00:15:28.360 you were,
00:15:28.520 the beauty in it.
00:15:29.980 Sister,
00:15:30.320 the beauty in God 0.81
00:15:32.320 to die and lay your life down 0.79
00:15:34.120 for the whole earth. 0.70
00:15:34.880 No longer is that.
00:15:35.600 Sacrifice lamb.
00:15:37.160 Sister,
00:15:37.720 you're reading that
00:15:38.140 from the Bible.
00:15:39.200 You're reading the Bible.
00:15:40.100 No, no, no.
00:15:40.740 Let's sacrifice again
00:15:41.840 and the free day.
00:15:42.600 Let's talk about the power.
00:15:43.180 What?
00:15:43.540 The fact that he rose
00:15:44.340 from the dead.
00:15:45.840 Sister,
00:15:46.500 you are,
00:15:47.200 where do you get
00:15:47.560 this information from?
00:15:49.020 The Bibli.
00:15:49.840 The Bibli.
00:15:50.760 The Bibli.
00:15:51.220 The Bible.
00:15:52.040 Okay.
00:15:52.400 I said to you,
00:15:53.560 putting the Bible
00:15:54.160 and Islam to a side,
00:15:55.160 you're preaching.
00:15:55.980 No problem.
00:15:56.260 We're trying to exchange you
00:15:57.560 with Christ.
00:15:58.060 Okay.
00:15:58.200 Okay, no problem.
00:15:59.160 But if I speak to the Quran,
00:16:00.520 Allah says in the Quran,
00:16:01.440 they did not crucify him
00:16:02.580 nor did they kill him.
00:16:03.260 I'm not coming from the Quran 0.93
00:16:04.280 because your religion
00:16:05.280 against my,
00:16:05.780 I'm saying different beliefs.
00:16:07.180 I'm talking about
00:16:07.760 who God is.
00:16:08.900 You said he's not ignorant.
00:16:10.280 He did not know
00:16:10.840 that I was sister.
00:16:11.700 Hear me out, please.
00:16:12.460 So we have one more thing.
00:16:13.900 Look, let's not get
00:16:14.440 into preaching mode
00:16:15.120 because the preaching,
00:16:15.900 I know, I know.
00:16:17.640 I hear you.
00:16:17.980 I know you're passionate.
00:16:18.680 I love the energy.
00:16:20.340 But I'm saying,
00:16:21.200 hear me out.
00:16:22.920 You said he was never ignorant. 0.53
00:16:25.120 Yeah.
00:16:25.380 He did not know the hour.
00:16:26.320 Yeah.
00:16:26.720 You said,
00:16:27.580 I said to you,
00:16:28.620 can he lie?
00:16:29.240 You said no.
00:16:29.880 Can he die?
00:16:30.440 You said no.
00:16:31.120 And I said to you,
00:16:32.160 why?
00:16:32.480 And I accept I'm with you.
00:16:33.380 He cannot lie, die.
00:16:34.020 I'm with you.
00:16:34.400 100% we're on the same team.
00:16:35.700 When he became a man, 1.00
00:16:36.500 he was ignorant 1.00
00:16:37.080 and he was weak. 1.00
00:16:38.300 Okay.
00:16:38.540 Wait for hours.
00:16:39.940 Let me finish my sentence.
00:16:40.940 Let me finish my sentence.
00:16:42.580 How does God,
00:16:43.700 you said he cannot lie,
00:16:44.640 he cannot die.
00:16:45.460 How do you make him 1.00
00:16:46.120 ignorant and weak? 1.00
00:16:46.980 Okay. 0.99
00:16:47.460 He goes against attributes.
00:16:48.040 Okay, wait.
00:16:49.020 Wait, wait.
00:16:49.760 You want to go first?
00:16:50.440 First, I'll do it.
00:16:51.860 But no preaching.
00:16:52.920 I want everything.
00:16:53.940 This is now the Bible aside,
00:16:55.620 right?
00:16:56.140 Yes.
00:16:56.320 And now we're just focusing on God.
00:16:57.520 Thank you.
00:16:58.240 So,
00:16:58.680 let's just primarily focus on God,
00:17:00.560 right?
00:17:00.580 Beautiful.
00:17:01.040 Perfect.
00:17:01.240 And the idea of,
00:17:02.740 why do you always think that as a man,
00:17:04.680 we can truly understand
00:17:05.800 the movement of God?
00:17:06.960 Why are you trying to incorporate
00:17:08.480 our knowledge and our understanding
00:17:10.380 into the God who's created us?
00:17:13.420 It's the same way,
00:17:14.180 like in a way where you can say,
00:17:15.700 oh,
00:17:15.900 people that think the logic,
00:17:18.080 they don't believe in God,
00:17:18.920 are like,
00:17:19.540 oh,
00:17:20.300 but God lets war occur.
00:17:22.140 God lets this occur.
00:17:23.380 How can God,
00:17:24.140 who is all good,
00:17:25.360 all loving,
00:17:27.280 let war occur?
00:17:28.920 Yes.
00:17:29.120 Because it's the wise.
00:17:31.200 What do we do?
00:17:31.980 We focus and understand that.
00:17:33.280 This is also the most wise.
00:17:34.480 You never truly understand God.
00:17:36.280 He's the more wise.
00:17:36.940 You never know our ways.
00:17:39.200 Good.
00:17:39.720 So then why did you,
00:17:40.700 then why did you guys say,
00:17:42.640 if that's the case,
00:17:43.400 that we cannot comprehend God,
00:17:44.540 then why did you say God cannot lie?
00:17:46.060 Maybe he can lie.
00:17:46.780 Why are you judging God?
00:17:48.180 No,
00:17:48.340 no,
00:17:48.480 no.
00:17:49.140 Good.
00:17:49.780 So,
00:17:50.060 look,
00:17:50.260 look,
00:17:50.360 how is that?
00:17:51.040 Hear me out.
00:17:51.520 Look,
00:17:51.700 you said,
00:17:52.640 perfect.
00:17:54.000 Thank you.
00:17:54.320 Look,
00:17:54.460 you said,
00:17:54.900 you said God cannot lie.
00:17:56.220 When I say God cannot be a man, 0.97
00:17:57.460 you say,
00:17:57.680 no,
00:17:57.840 Ali,
00:17:58.000 he can be a man.
00:17:58.960 When he cannot lie,
00:18:00.120 you say,
00:18:00.260 no,
00:18:00.440 Ali,
00:18:00.660 he cannot lie.
00:18:01.380 Why is it when you say he cannot lie,
00:18:02.680 I accept it.
00:18:03.440 When I say he cannot be a man,
00:18:04.700 you say,
00:18:04.860 no,
00:18:05.000 no,
00:18:05.080 he can be a man.
00:18:06.240 It doesn't follow.
00:18:07.200 Look,
00:18:07.480 he cannot lie and die,
00:18:08.460 but he can be a man.
00:18:09.120 It goes to give this attribute.
00:18:10.240 No,
00:18:10.420 but things,
00:18:10.960 when he was a man,
00:18:12.440 as a Christian,
00:18:14.040 we believed that if he could become a man.
00:18:14.820 Good,
00:18:15.100 you're going to scripture.
00:18:15.900 That's what I'm saying.
00:18:17.020 See,
00:18:17.420 you had to go to scripture.
00:18:18.420 No,
00:18:18.580 all of you were logical when you said God cannot lie.
00:18:28.780 That's logical,
00:18:29.520 rational.
00:18:29.940 It's not.
00:18:30.340 It's difficult.
00:18:30.720 Of course.
00:18:32.380 Are you telling me?
00:18:33.040 Look,
00:18:33.120 I don't follow the Bible.
00:18:36.120 I don't follow the Bible.
00:18:37.620 And I know God cannot lie.
00:18:38.860 Go to a Jew. 1.00
00:18:40.080 He would say God cannot lie.
00:18:41.400 It's a logical thing,
00:18:42.140 sister.
00:18:42.400 You don't need scripture for it.
00:18:43.680 Even if I get an atheist.
00:18:44.500 No,
00:18:44.620 but it's not scriptures that,
00:18:45.600 you said go to a Jew.
00:18:46.460 It's still there's scriptures that they're looking at.
00:18:47.960 But if you go to a Jew, 0.95
00:18:49.280 a Jew doesn't believe God is a man. 0.78
00:18:50.400 But if you go to a man who is atheist,
00:18:52.620 what would they say to you?
00:18:53.640 He would say,
00:18:54.300 I don't believe in God.
00:18:55.060 He would say,
00:18:56.080 I don't believe in God.
00:18:56.800 And then they would also say,
00:18:57.840 do you believe God is good?
00:19:01.920 Of course he has to.
00:19:02.980 Do you believe God can lie?
00:19:04.060 No.
00:19:04.340 No,
00:19:04.740 he cannot.
00:19:05.120 I'm with you on that.
00:19:06.160 My point is,
00:19:06.740 I'm with you.
00:19:08.520 I'm saying God cannot lie and die.
00:19:10.440 We're in the same team.
00:19:11.680 Look,
00:19:12.100 I'm on your team.
00:19:14.020 We're on the same team.
00:19:14.960 The moment you say God is a man, 1.00
00:19:16.860 you have a problem
00:19:17.560 because you're saying
00:19:18.360 God can be came,
00:19:20.100 he became weak, 1.00
00:19:21.160 he became ignorant. 0.99
00:19:22.180 That goes against attributes. 0.98
00:19:24.020 That's your understanding.
00:19:25.140 That's your understanding.
00:19:25.740 Of what a man is.
00:19:26.480 Okay,
00:19:26.720 why are you saying he cannot lie then?
00:19:28.560 Why are you saying he cannot lie then?
00:19:29.580 That's your understanding of what a man is.
00:19:31.200 Okay,
00:19:31.620 one question.
00:19:32.640 Is lying an attribute?
00:19:34.540 It's an attribute of...
00:19:35.300 Lie,
00:19:35.740 look,
00:19:35.980 lie, 0.99
00:19:36.420 weakness and ignorance. 0.57
00:19:38.140 These are all 0.99
00:19:39.020 belongs to him.
00:19:40.560 You accept...
00:19:41.020 I'm done,
00:19:43.120 I'm done.
00:19:43.340 No,
00:19:43.700 look, 0.60
00:19:43.920 lying, 0.99
00:19:44.820 ignorance and weakness
00:19:46.080 is part of an attribute.
00:19:48.780 You say no to one
00:19:49.960 and you accept two.
00:19:51.120 How does that make sense?
00:19:52.420 Please explain.
00:19:52.940 You say lying,
00:19:53.580 he cannot do.
00:19:54.660 Weakness,
00:19:55.060 he can be weak 0.99
00:19:55.560 and he can be ignorant. 0.99
00:19:56.600 I fully understand that. 0.92
00:19:57.880 How sister, 0.60
00:19:58.720 that's where I'm coming from.
00:19:59.680 I get what you mean.
00:20:00.700 And,
00:20:01.020 and,
00:20:01.220 and,
00:20:01.480 and,
00:20:01.640 and,
00:20:01.680 and,
00:20:01.940 and,
00:20:01.960 and,
00:20:01.980 and,
00:20:02.000 and,
00:20:02.520 and,
00:20:02.820 and,
00:20:03.440 and,
00:20:03.640 and,
00:20:04.060 and,
00:20:04.600 and Jesus has a God.
00:20:05.820 Do you believe God is good?
00:20:07.360 Yes.
00:20:07.980 Why do you believe God is good?
00:20:09.100 Because he has to innately cause his attribute of who he is.
00:20:11.620 No,
00:20:11.740 but where do you gain that from?
00:20:13.300 I,
00:20:13.800 let me tell you where I get that from.
00:20:14.760 No,
00:20:14.800 no,
00:20:15.040 I get that from the Quran.
00:20:16.440 There we go.
00:20:16.660 And also,
00:20:17.340 also,
00:20:17.880 even if I didn't have the Quran,
00:20:19.700 I would say if God exists,
00:20:21.640 he has to be all good.
00:20:22.880 No.
00:20:23.080 Because it will go against the attribute.
00:20:24.240 But there's people who,
00:20:25.220 God cannot be evil.
00:20:25.940 No,
00:20:26.120 but there's people who believe it,
00:20:28.040 who say God exists.
00:20:29.420 Based on what?
00:20:29.920 But God is not all good.
00:20:31.080 Why?
00:20:31.540 But this thing,
00:20:32.240 that's what I'm saying.
00:20:32.680 Why?
00:20:33.400 Because something bad happened to them.
00:20:34.920 Yeah,
00:20:35.120 but no,
00:20:35.460 it was not based on,
00:20:36.320 that's what I'm saying.
00:20:37.120 When you say,
00:20:37.600 when I asked you,
00:20:38.400 yeah,
00:20:38.900 you said if God is good,
00:20:40.120 you said yes.
00:20:40.700 And you're like,
00:20:41.140 oh,
00:20:41.260 why do you believe God is good?
00:20:42.520 You said because of the Quran. 0.97
00:20:43.940 The same way,
00:20:44.780 when we say,
00:20:45.340 oh,
00:20:45.580 we believe God is good
00:20:46.660 because of the Bible.
00:20:47.840 I accept that.
00:20:48.660 I accept that.
00:20:49.360 I accept God being good.
00:20:50.560 100%.
00:20:51.060 Yes.
00:20:52.420 If God now,
00:20:53.320 comes down as man,
00:20:54.360 he cannot.
00:20:54.740 That's what he has to attribute.
00:20:56.200 That's the thing.
00:20:56.940 Would he lie?
00:20:57.560 Sister,
00:20:57.960 it goes against,
00:20:58.580 look,
00:20:58.720 let me hear me out.
00:20:59.180 Look,
00:20:59.340 am I a man?
00:21:00.280 Am I a man?
00:21:00.880 Yes.
00:21:01.240 Okay,
00:21:01.440 am I composed of bones?
00:21:02.600 Yes.
00:21:03.000 Do I have a heart?
00:21:03.920 If I cross the road
00:21:04.880 and get hit by a car,
00:21:05.580 do I die?
00:21:06.180 Yes.
00:21:06.600 Okay,
00:21:07.160 are you telling me
00:21:08.100 that a God Almighty
00:21:09.980 who created,
00:21:10.500 do you know how big the universe is?
00:21:11.700 Yes.
00:21:12.260 Very massive.
00:21:14.040 Humongous.
00:21:15.080 So the one that created that
00:21:16.680 became a little speck like me,
00:21:19.060 came to earth
00:21:20.160 and died on the cross.
00:21:21.680 Yes.
00:21:21.980 That's how loving it is.
00:21:23.400 That's how loving it is.
00:21:24.340 That's how much he is.
00:21:25.760 Okay,
00:21:26.100 so he loved him so much
00:21:27.240 that he sent his son,
00:21:28.560 by the way,
00:21:29.140 his son.
00:21:29.620 His son,
00:21:30.180 his son,
00:21:30.580 so I go to the judge
00:21:34.180 and say,
00:21:34.480 listen,
00:21:35.160 the alchemist of all the crimes,
00:21:36.200 here's my son.
00:21:37.060 That's justice.
00:21:37.680 That's the biggest oppression ever.
00:21:39.080 And what does it say?
00:21:40.040 For sin,
00:21:42.000 be death. 0.98
00:21:43.000 You need blood sacrifice. 0.99
00:21:44.100 Yeah.
00:21:44.800 That's,
00:21:45.120 to me,
00:21:45.740 with all due respect,
00:21:46.860 that's,
00:21:47.160 I want to be careful,
00:21:48.920 I don't want to be rude.
00:21:49.900 Look,
00:21:50.360 blood sacrifice,
00:21:51.060 in Islam,
00:21:51.720 there is no sacrifice.
00:21:53.480 You sin,
00:21:54.000 you repent.
00:21:54.840 There is no,
00:21:55.600 but that doesn't mean
00:21:56.580 it's good
00:21:57.160 because what does
00:21:57.640 in the book of James say,
00:21:59.000 works,
00:21:59.480 faith was not,
00:22:00.880 works is dead.
00:22:01.760 You have to do works.
00:22:02.900 So this thing of,
00:22:03.720 Jesus came and died for your sins,
00:22:05.000 you get that from where?
00:22:05.900 The Bible.
00:22:06.940 Yes?
00:22:07.420 If the Bible is not the word of God,
00:22:09.240 all of the stories fall apart.
00:22:11.100 The Bible is not preserved.
00:22:13.080 Check it yourself,
00:22:13.920 Bart Ehrman,
00:22:14.600 Bruce Metzger,
00:22:15.400 these are scholars.
00:22:16.360 Yes?
00:22:16.520 One is obviously,
00:22:17.080 he was a Christian,
00:22:17.780 he's not Christian anymore.
00:22:18.420 John 7,
00:22:19.500 5,
00:22:19.800 3 to Mark 11.
00:22:20.940 There are books added in,
00:22:22.240 which,
00:22:22.460 how many books do you have
00:22:23.060 for the King James Version?
00:22:24.500 66 books.
00:22:25.880 66 books,
00:22:26.580 yeah?
00:22:27.180 There's 83,
00:22:28.220 there's 72.
00:22:29.340 How could God's,
00:22:30.980 sister,
00:22:31.660 we have one Quran,
00:22:32.740 114 chapters,
00:22:34.080 not a single word
00:22:35.460 has been changed.
00:22:36.560 It's preserved,
00:22:37.180 now I'm not saying
00:22:37.780 that's the reason
00:22:38.240 it's from God.
00:22:39.800 That's prophecies.
00:22:41.060 And the message it comes to
00:22:42.640 is the same message
00:22:43.720 Jesus preached.
00:22:45.100 Adam,
00:22:45.780 Moses,
00:22:46.460 Noah,
00:22:46.680 all of the prophets
00:22:47.620 said what?
00:22:48.660 God is one.
00:22:49.780 Not a single,
00:22:50.780 God is one.
00:22:52.900 We have different
00:22:53.560 sex, 0.67
00:22:54.020 all of them, 0.94
00:22:54.400 let me tell you
00:22:54.620 the difference.
00:22:55.120 All of the sex 0.98
00:22:55.680 that we believe,
00:22:56.700 we have,
00:22:57.320 they all believe
00:22:57.740 God is one,
00:22:58.500 they all believe
00:22:58.880 the Quran is from God
00:22:59.620 and they all believe
00:23:00.080 the Prophet Muhammad
00:23:00.520 is the final messenger.
00:23:01.460 Jehovah's Witnesses,
00:23:02.760 Mormons,
00:23:03.360 Catholics,
00:23:04.040 you go to the Catholics, 1.00
00:23:04.780 some of them even
00:23:05.240 worship,
00:23:05.720 turn to Mary.
00:23:07.420 Mormons don't have 1.00
00:23:08.200 the Bible.
00:23:08.580 Not Mormons, 1.00
00:23:08.960 I don't accept them.
00:23:09.740 Neither of the Jews. 1.00
00:23:10.820 I don't accept the Mormons. 1.00
00:23:11.840 I never said Mormons.
00:23:13.340 Jehovah's Witnesses,
00:23:14.500 they're actually not
00:23:15.140 classified as Christians.
00:23:17.220 They are, 0.58
00:23:17.940 they're heretics, 0.92
00:23:18.620 they're heretics.
00:23:19.580 Mormons are not, 0.97
00:23:20.200 Mormons are not. 0.98
00:23:20.660 Mormons are out. 1.00
00:23:22.540 Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses
00:23:24.280 are both not
00:23:24.960 my finalist Christians.
00:23:25.300 Why?
00:23:26.000 Because Jehovah's Witnesses 0.76
00:23:26.920 say what?
00:23:27.640 They,
00:23:28.080 if I'm not mistaken,
00:23:29.780 they accept the Father
00:23:30.880 is the one true God.
00:23:32.200 John 17,
00:23:33.040 3,
00:23:33.500 it clearly says
00:23:34.320 the one true God.
00:23:35.140 They don't have,
00:23:37.180 I don't think
00:23:38.000 their Bible is the same.
00:23:39.540 Okay, good.
00:23:40.320 No, they have a Bible.
00:23:41.740 I don't think they call it
00:23:42.540 Bible.
00:23:42.920 How do Muslims get to heaven? 1.00
00:23:45.840 I don't know.
00:23:46.340 Okay, good.
00:23:46.900 I don't think they claim it.
00:23:48.580 Exactly.
00:23:49.040 And we can never live up
00:23:50.000 to God's standards.
00:23:50.880 Good.
00:23:51.580 He came for us.
00:23:52.760 He came down and died for us.
00:23:53.780 Exactly.
00:23:54.320 Was Muhammad a prophet? 0.62
00:23:55.620 He was a prophet of God.
00:23:56.840 So,
00:23:57.320 the way we believe
00:23:57.960 we enter the paradise
00:23:59.080 is by grace.
00:24:00.480 Meaning the following.
00:24:01.600 I could pray,
00:24:02.360 I could fast,
00:24:03.060 I can do all this stuff.
00:24:04.180 It's ultimately
00:24:05.100 by the grace and mercy
00:24:06.720 of God we enter paradise.
00:24:07.940 That's what was it.
00:24:09.000 Yes, good.
00:24:10.180 But the thing is this,
00:24:10.820 you believe that
00:24:11.580 there was a sacrifice.
00:24:12.860 Jesus was the blood sacrifice,
00:24:14.240 the human sacrifice
00:24:14.880 that was done.
00:24:15.340 He saved us.
00:24:16.200 Good.
00:24:16.580 So, you believe that also.
00:24:17.920 We believe that
00:24:18.540 is the greatest injustice
00:24:19.680 to get into it.
00:24:20.640 Because Allah says in the Quran,
00:24:21.760 no soul should bear
00:24:22.860 the burden of another soul.
00:24:24.240 Why should,
00:24:24.620 for example,
00:24:25.140 when you have birth,
00:24:25.980 when you're going to give birth,
00:24:27.200 you bear the sin
00:24:28.060 of what Eve done
00:24:28.680 in your scripture.
00:24:30.960 You bear,
00:24:31.380 you know the pain
00:24:32.080 you're going to go through birth?
00:24:33.020 It is because of
00:24:33.860 Eve tempting Adam.
00:24:35.180 We don't believe that.
00:24:36.400 We don't believe,
00:24:36.820 why are you suffering
00:24:39.540 a consequence of somebody else?
00:24:40.760 In Islam,
00:24:41.160 it's very simple.
00:24:41.960 I sinned,
00:24:42.460 I repent to God.
00:24:43.500 There is no Mohammed, 1.00
00:24:44.880 Moses,
00:24:45.480 Jesus.
00:24:45.740 I don't need to go through anybody.
00:24:46.860 I have a direct relationship
00:24:48.220 with God
00:24:48.700 and as Muslims,
00:24:49.760 we invite our Christian
00:24:50.620 sisters and brothers
00:24:51.300 to worship God alone,
00:24:52.840 the one that Jesus worshipped.
00:24:53.980 All we're saying is,
00:24:54.980 Jesus worshipped God,
00:24:56.520 worship the same God.
00:24:57.740 It's like me.
00:24:58.200 Imagine if I give you 50 pounds
00:24:59.440 and you start thanking the 50 pounds.
00:25:00.960 50 pounds,
00:25:01.360 thank you.
00:25:02.000 I gave you it.
00:25:03.200 Why are you thanking the 50 pounds?
00:25:04.920 Jesus was sent by the Father.
00:25:06.720 Worship the one true God.
00:25:09.580 By worshiping God,
00:25:10.300 you worship Jesus.
00:25:12.140 That's idol worship.
00:25:13.540 Oh, no.
00:25:14.060 And it's against,
00:25:14.540 it's against,
00:25:14.980 it's against.
00:25:15.260 Oh yeah,
00:25:15.580 that was also the thing,
00:25:17.520 like,
00:25:17.940 technically,
00:25:19.080 from our perspective,
00:25:20.260 yeah.
00:25:21.080 Yeah,
00:25:21.560 from our belief.
00:25:22.200 Fair enough.
00:25:22.840 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:23.100 You guys don't believe
00:25:23.900 in a holy Jew. 0.84
00:25:24.720 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:25.500 And the funny thing is,
00:25:27.760 the Old Testament is,
00:25:29.560 the Old Testament is from the Jews.
00:25:31.440 The Jews say exactly 0.96
00:25:32.540 what we're saying.
00:25:33.420 They say God is not a man.
00:25:34.660 How could it be
00:25:35.340 that you're following a scripture,
00:25:36.600 a Bible that you're holding in your hand,
00:25:37.940 that belongs to them
00:25:38.780 and they are saying
00:25:39.780 God is not a man?
00:25:41.060 But the Jews do believe 0.99
00:25:42.320 that God will come.
00:25:45.480 No.
00:25:46.020 No, they do.
00:25:46.820 No, they don't.
00:25:47.320 They do.
00:25:48.200 Speak to them.
00:25:48.620 They just believe Jesus is the Messiah.
00:25:49.780 They just don't believe Jesus is the Messiah.
00:25:51.900 I promise you,
00:25:52.760 they can't even mention his name
00:25:54.660 because that's how glorified
00:25:55.760 they have him.
00:25:56.660 They don't believe,
00:25:57.080 they strictly,
00:25:58.400 the reason why they believe
00:25:59.460 you guys are idol worshippers,
00:26:00.500 and by the way,
00:26:01.260 they insult Jesus.
00:26:02.040 They believe Jesus is 0.95
00:26:02.840 going to be burning in hell fire 0.93
00:26:04.240 and his mom is in a dautra. 0.99
00:26:05.740 We,
00:26:06.280 the reason why,
00:26:06.960 remember when Jesus said,
00:26:08.160 I've got many things to say to you
00:26:09.500 and they will glorify me.
00:26:10.980 We came
00:26:11.660 because the Quran came 1.00
00:26:13.360 because the Jews
00:26:13.920 were disgracing Jesus 0.88
00:26:15.640 by saying he's going to burn 0.97
00:26:16.740 in the hell fire 1.00
00:26:17.220 and his mom's in a dautra.
00:26:18.320 The Quran came to preserve her honor
00:26:19.880 and said,
00:26:20.620 she's the most holiest woman
00:26:21.600 to walk this earth.
00:26:22.180 And as Muslims,
00:26:23.780 we have to honor and believe in Jesus
00:26:24.960 because of the insults
00:26:26.420 that the Jews were doing 1.00
00:26:27.000 towards Jesus.
00:26:27.660 Do you get it?
00:26:28.280 So to us sisters,
00:26:29.520 again,
00:26:29.800 thank you for listening.
00:26:31.440 I love the energy,
00:26:32.320 by the way.
00:26:33.160 That's why I believe,
00:26:33.880 you know,
00:26:34.060 a lot of Christians,
00:26:34.600 when they come to Islam, 0.99
00:26:35.820 they are like on fire 0.99
00:26:37.000 because genuinely,
00:26:38.040 the zeal is there.
00:26:38.700 I know the faith and thing,
00:26:39.800 I really admire that
00:26:40.440 with you guys.
00:26:41.340 I can see that there.
00:26:42.760 But the only thing we're saying
00:26:43.800 is this,
00:26:44.620 God is one
00:26:45.180 and one thing I'll leave you on
00:26:46.660 in the Bible,
00:26:47.200 I can't remember where it is.
00:26:48.020 It says,
00:26:48.220 Do you know what Jesus is going to say?
00:26:56.500 Who cast out demons
00:26:57.340 in the name of Jesus?
00:26:58.620 Who prophesies in his name?
00:26:59.640 Muslims or Christians?
00:27:01.700 Christians. 0.51
00:27:02.280 Do you know what Jesus is going to say? 0.95
00:27:03.220 Get away from me,
00:27:03.860 I never knew you.
00:27:04.860 He's going to tell these people,
00:27:06.500 I don't know you.
00:27:07.660 You know why?
00:27:08.300 Because on that day,
00:27:09.100 Jesus is going to say,
00:27:09.640 I never told you to worship me.
00:27:10.880 That's why we believe
00:27:11.800 Jesus hasn't died.
00:27:13.320 In his second coming,
00:27:14.160 he's going to come and tell the Christians, 0.99
00:27:15.560 I never said worship me.
00:27:17.080 Allah says that in the Quran.
00:27:18.220 When Allah asks him in the Quran
00:27:19.260 on the day of judgment,
00:27:20.100 did you ask them to worship
00:27:21.200 you and your mother besides me?
00:27:22.340 He says,
00:27:22.620 Oh God,
00:27:23.280 you know what's in my heart,
00:27:24.540 I don't know what's in yours.
00:27:25.200 I've never said to them
00:27:26.140 such a thing.
00:27:27.120 So my dear sisters,
00:27:28.400 when Christianity came to Africa,
00:27:31.160 that's like one president he said.
00:27:32.840 He said,
00:27:33.140 when the missionaries came to Africa,
00:27:34.640 they taught us how to pray
00:27:35.540 with our eyes closed.
00:27:36.920 When we opened our eyes,
00:27:38.000 we had the Bible in our hands
00:27:38.800 and they had our lands.
00:27:40.100 Jesus is not a white man,
00:27:41.280 this whole kind of notion.
00:27:42.300 No, we don't believe that.
00:27:43.040 Yeah, exactly.
00:27:43.700 He's not,
00:27:44.000 the species that they have here,
00:27:45.300 he's not a black man, 0.88
00:27:46.180 none of this stuff.
00:27:47.400 Okay,
00:27:48.400 God is one,
00:27:49.520 worship him alone
00:27:50.120 and you know very well,
00:27:51.220 how many times have you guys
00:27:52.000 prayed to the Holy Spirit?
00:27:53.820 Pray to the Holy Spirit.
00:27:55.280 We don't pray to the Holy Spirit.
00:27:56.260 One second.
00:27:57.400 One second.
00:27:58.200 One second.
00:27:58.960 One second.
00:27:59.620 One second.
00:28:00.500 One second.
00:28:01.560 One second,
00:28:02.080 sister.
00:28:02.680 You say you believe
00:28:03.720 or say,
00:28:04.260 okay,
00:28:04.660 God the Father,
00:28:05.480 God the Son
00:28:05.900 and God the Holy Spirit
00:28:06.680 and you've never prayed
00:28:07.700 to the Holy Spirit?
00:28:08.560 How can they be equal?
00:28:10.320 Because the Holy Spirit
00:28:11.160 is God.
00:28:12.280 No,
00:28:12.880 the Holy Spirit is God.
00:28:14.360 But you've never prayed
00:28:15.820 to the Holy Spirit.
00:28:16.380 There's certain things
00:28:17.420 God will know in our lives
00:28:18.600 that we don't know
00:28:19.500 we need
00:28:19.920 but God knows
00:28:20.780 and the Holy Spirit
00:28:21.580 within us
00:28:22.040 and you're truly
00:28:23.480 unlocked to the Holy Spirit.
00:28:24.840 But are they not the same?
00:28:25.500 The Holy Spirit
00:28:25.920 is the one who lives 0.63
00:28:27.040 in your prayer
00:28:27.700 and is able to
00:28:28.960 preach that communication
00:28:29.900 to you.
00:28:30.640 Okay,
00:28:30.940 the Father is greater
00:28:31.860 than the Son
00:28:33.080 because Jesus said that.
00:28:34.160 Why do you not
00:28:34.840 pray to the Father alone?
00:28:37.940 And will you pray?
00:28:38.940 I think Jesus also
00:28:40.240 there's power in the name.
00:28:41.920 I think there's a verse
00:28:42.640 in the Bible
00:28:42.980 which says
00:28:43.400 there's power in the name of Jesus.
00:28:44.620 Why not the Holy Spirit?
00:28:47.860 No,
00:28:48.140 but I'm saying
00:28:48.580 if you're saying
00:28:50.180 that's like
00:28:51.000 you're saying
00:28:51.700 that Jesus is not God
00:28:53.040 do you know
00:28:53.320 why you don't do that?
00:28:55.720 Because the Holy Spirit
00:28:56.680 this Trinity thing
00:28:57.380 was made up
00:28:57.780 in the Council of Nicaea
00:28:58.720 two,
00:28:59.240 three hundred years later.
00:29:00.340 The Holy Spirit
00:29:01.020 was not even in the picture.
00:29:02.260 When you look at
00:29:02.660 early church fathers
00:29:03.520 they did not even
00:29:04.560 they didn't even
00:29:05.300 add the Holy Spirit
00:29:05.920 into the Trinity.
00:29:06.720 You need to look
00:29:07.400 into this stuff
00:29:07.820 and one thing
00:29:08.340 I'll leave you guys on
00:29:09.020 is the Bible
00:29:11.000 the Word of God.
00:29:11.980 You have to research that
00:29:12.980 because you believe
00:29:13.620 in the resurrection
00:29:14.200 Jesus dying for your sins
00:29:15.900 and Jesus being God
00:29:16.920 because it's the Bible.
00:29:17.820 If the Bible is corrupted
00:29:19.120 every single thing
00:29:20.320 of that is in life.
00:29:22.200 You have to look into it.
00:29:23.580 But thank you
00:29:24.300 you guys are cold
00:29:24.980 I don't want to
00:29:25.280 warn you guys.
00:29:25.600 Thank you so much.
00:29:26.420 Thank you for listening
00:29:28.260 and thank you for the passion
00:29:30.100 I enjoyed the passion.
00:29:31.080 You guys gave me energy
00:29:32.800 I'm scared
00:29:33.380 I have energy now.
00:29:34.140 Even though I won't be
00:29:37.140 preaching the same thing
00:29:37.840 but you gave me energy.
00:29:39.460 Thank you very much
00:29:40.100 sisters it was a pleasure.
00:29:41.280 Thank you.
00:29:41.820 Thank you sisters
00:29:42.420 have a nice day.
00:29:43.960 Yes yes yes.
00:29:44.740 It's there
00:29:44.980 the station's just there.
00:29:45.980 Thank you.
00:29:47.940 Nice.
00:29:48.460 I like
00:29:48.700 I mean I'm not going to lie
00:29:49.540 I like the Africans 0.99
00:29:50.280 passion
00:29:50.700 their energy
00:29:51.420 and that's why
00:29:51.860 when they come to Islam
00:29:52.820 they are so
00:29:53.860 adamant
00:29:54.800 they have the energy
00:29:55.620 it's pure
00:29:56.120 may Allah
00:29:57.240 guide them.