Ali Dawah - 5 GUYS WITH MULTIPLE QUESTIONS - SPEAKERS CORNER

00:00:00.000 I'm glad he doesn't.

00:00:02.680 If he did, he would finish us off.

00:00:04.220 I'm not interested in politics.

00:00:05.060 He would finish us off.

00:00:05.960 He's not interested in anything about it.

00:00:07.020 Let me tell you something.

00:00:07.820 He said that he, from day one, was after power.

00:00:10.760 He joined political party.

00:00:12.300 He created this movement.

00:00:13.500 Tommy, none of that.

00:00:14.860 So he's not after power?

00:00:16.460 Hitler was talking about. 0.74

00:00:17.120 Not political power that you're talking about.

00:00:19.060 Still, power is power.

00:00:20.000 It can be political, whatever.

00:00:21.100 Power is power.

00:00:21.980 Yeah, but I'm not talking about power ranges, yeah?

00:00:23.280 Power is power.

00:00:24.160 You get what I'm trying to say?

00:00:24.740 Yeah, but it's not political power.

00:00:26.200 But, sir, if I said I want power, I want to...

00:00:28.560 Wait, are you going to be power?

00:00:29.440 Yes, how are you doing?

00:00:30.520 All right, how are you doing, mate?

00:00:31.340 Yeah.

00:00:31.740 All right, don't you think what you're doing, right?

00:00:33.920 I've got so many questions.

00:00:34.940 I've got one question.

00:00:36.900 Don't you think what you're doing?

00:00:38.400 So you want to convert people to Islam, right? 1.00

00:00:40.780 Because you think that makes you pious and stuff.

00:00:42.300 No, no, no.

00:00:42.500 You don't guide them after that, do you?

00:00:44.140 Do you go to the mosque with them?

00:00:45.300 No, no.

00:00:45.840 You know what?

00:00:46.320 That's actually...

00:00:46.720 You raised a very valid point there,

00:00:48.380 and I really applaud you for that, yeah?

00:00:49.940 Is that, firstly, I've got so many questions

00:00:51.080 I need to address, yeah?

00:00:52.220 That's my personal take on it.

00:00:53.220 I believe if Tommy Robinson came to power,

00:00:55.120 I believe he will slaughter us.

00:00:56.340 I believe that, I believe that.

00:00:57.900 So, like, Hitler with the Jews. 0.67

00:00:59.240 Hitler killed the Jews because he thought

00:01:00.800 that the Jews had a power.

00:01:01.760 A long way.

00:01:02.360 Has he joined the party?

00:01:03.180 A long way, a long way.

00:01:04.100 Tommy Robinson...

00:01:05.060 Tommy Robinson doesn't...

00:01:07.060 You don't need to vote to have power.

00:01:08.760 Tommy Robinson's not looking at race.

00:01:10.260 He's not like, oh, you're a brown person.

00:01:11.780 I'm trying, I'm trying to...

00:01:12.580 Tommy Robinson's not like, oh, you're a brown person.

00:01:14.840 No, no, no.

00:01:15.240 Therefore, I'm going to hate, like, brown people. 1.00

00:01:17.160 He's looking at the ideology.

00:01:18.600 Whereas, like, Hitler was like, 0.85

00:01:19.820 I have to exterminate these people from the gene.

00:01:22.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:22.560 Whereas, like, Tommy Robinson is just like,

00:01:24.100 I don't really like certain aspects of this ideology,

00:01:26.820 but I'll still be mates with him.

00:01:29.200 Yeah.

00:01:30.000 I would say, personally, like,

00:01:33.080 do I believe he has concerns?

00:01:34.520 Yeah, 100%.

00:01:35.060 I believe he has concerns.

00:01:36.160 But he can't kill...

00:01:37.100 He can kill an ideology,

00:01:38.380 but he can't kill people.

00:01:39.580 No, no, no.

00:01:39.640 Let me tell you something.

00:01:41.180 Freedom of speech.

00:01:41.860 People come to us and say,

00:01:43.140 Islam is against freedom of speech. 1.00

00:01:44.920 Look, let me put it like this, yeah?

00:01:46.340 Freedom of speech...

00:01:48.100 Let me tell you something.

00:01:48.580 We've been coming to this park for five years.

00:01:50.140 We've got people that have come to this park

00:01:51.560 20, 30 years, yeah?

00:01:52.940 Freedom of speech,

00:01:54.100 is something that we love

00:01:55.260 and we use

00:01:56.240 and this is what will actually

00:01:57.580 open the minds of people against Islam.

00:01:59.420 So when people come and say...

00:02:00.620 Another question, can I?

00:02:02.320 Please, there's so many questions

00:02:03.200 we've thrown, yeah?

00:02:04.040 Turn by, turn one at a time, yeah?

00:02:05.180 I'm going to start charging, yeah?

00:02:06.160 Five pounds.

00:02:07.020 Yeah, I'm going to start charging this dude, yeah?

00:02:08.280 So just to answer your question...

00:02:10.760 Hey?

00:02:11.520 Of course.

00:02:12.240 Why should he be stopped to speak?

00:02:13.340 Of course, he has every right to...

00:02:14.360 He has every right to convey, to speak,

00:02:16.340 as long as we can reply, yeah?

00:02:17.840 So what I'm trying to say is

00:02:18.980 that answering your question,

00:02:20.180 I believe, genuinely,

00:02:21.420 I might be wrong,

00:02:21.960 like I said, I might be wrong,

00:02:22.540 this is my perception,

00:02:24.020 is that if Tommy Robertson came to power,

00:02:26.040 he would try to get rid of Muslims. 0.99

00:02:27.460 And if it doesn't work the easy way,

00:02:29.100 he will slaughter us.

00:02:29.760 This is what I believe.

00:02:30.500 But he wants to get rid of Islam, 1.00

00:02:31.600 not rid of Muslims.

00:02:32.560 He doesn't want to get rid of people.

00:02:33.120 That's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

00:02:34.160 that's a big mistake.

00:02:35.260 Your critique of Tommy...

00:02:36.240 You're next, you're next, you're next.

00:02:37.920 Wait, wait.

00:02:38.860 Your critique of Tommy is...

00:02:40.680 Oh, he's a Hitler in waiting. 0.97

00:02:42.280 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:02:42.840 I understand that.

00:02:43.740 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:02:44.280 That is the whole premise of your point here.

00:02:45.400 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:02:45.900 That Tommy Robertson is a Hitler in waiting. 0.52

00:02:47.900 Now, if I was to ask these people...

00:02:48.740 Possibly, possibly.

00:02:49.520 If you had a time machine,

00:02:50.800 and let's go back and kill Hitler, 0.93

00:02:52.140 everyone would go,

00:02:53.080 yeah, we should all do that.

00:02:54.700 So basically, you're saying...

00:02:55.700 You want to kill Hitler?

00:02:57.860 I said, if I asked all these people here,

00:02:59.740 if we had a time machine,

00:03:00.700 and we could go back and kill Hitler, 0.89

00:03:01.880 most people would probably be in favour of that.

00:03:03.260 But, but, going with your argument,

00:03:04.680 he has freedom of speech.

00:03:05.600 He has freedom of speech.

00:03:06.480 I haven't finished.

00:03:07.480 You're saying that Hitler demonised all Jews.

00:03:09.940 You should be the referee.

00:03:10.640 You're demonising Tommy,

00:03:13.260 saying he's the next Hitler. 0.57

00:03:14.620 I'm not, look.

00:03:15.340 We should get rid of him,

00:03:16.120 because he's the next,

00:03:16.720 he's going to kill,

00:03:17.340 instead of all killing all Jews,

00:03:18.560 he's going to kill all the Muslims. 1.00

00:03:19.200 No, no, no, I wouldn't say

00:03:19.860 let's get rid of him.

00:03:20.640 I would just say let's educate him.

00:03:21.800 Why is he being compared to Hitler?

00:03:23.500 Hitler, from day one, 0.98

00:03:24.540 short power,

00:03:25.840 through political power.

00:03:27.980 He created a party,

00:03:29.080 he tried to get votes.

00:03:30.200 Tommy has done none of this.

00:03:31.800 He is a street movement

00:03:33.740 that gets big publicity

00:03:35.100 about issues he's concerned with,

00:03:36.900 primarily in Luton.

00:03:38.780 The issues that Tommy's raised.

00:03:41.400 You're a referee,

00:03:42.080 you have to be unbiased.

00:03:43.200 The issues that Tommy's raised,

00:03:44.600 no one disputes now

00:03:45.920 that those are issues.

00:03:47.240 Has Tommy got any solutions

00:03:48.280 to these problems?

00:03:49.120 No, he hasn't.

00:03:50.440 But the message that he brings,

00:03:52.900 that he's created big,

00:03:53.700 nobody's now denying

00:03:56.120 those are all issues.

00:03:57.840 And that's all he's done.

00:03:58.400 No, of course, of course.

00:03:59.220 The only policy I've ever heard

00:04:00.780 Tommy Robertson suggest

00:04:01.820 is that you should ban

00:04:04.260 new mosques

00:04:05.400 until they are regulating.

00:04:07.140 Which, okay,

00:04:07.740 you could be in favour of your favour.

00:04:08.780 It's hardly...

00:04:09.800 No, no, but what is it?

00:04:10.900 No, no, but what is it?

00:04:12.340 I understand, I understand,

00:04:13.420 but this is, look,

00:04:13.940 you need to understand something.

00:04:14.780 There's gradual steps you take.

00:04:16.280 You have to be,

00:04:16.860 not you, in general,

00:04:18.000 a person has to be 0.93

00:04:18.680 an absolute idiot

00:04:19.800 to come out right

00:04:20.800 and put his real agendas

00:04:22.020 on the table

00:04:22.600 because he knows he'll be rejected.

00:04:23.480 Tommy's not a subtle man.

00:04:25.740 You understand what you're saying?

00:04:26.820 Referee.

00:04:27.700 I understand, no, I understand.

00:04:28.860 You're talking about subtle tactics.

00:04:29.500 Let me finish, let me finish.

00:04:30.380 You're talking about,

00:04:30.700 this is my gender to the public.

00:04:32.240 Let me finish, let me finish.

00:04:33.120 This is my gender behind the door. 1.00

00:04:33.780 Let me finish.

00:04:34.060 That's a subtle tactic,

00:04:35.040 I don't think...

00:04:35.760 Let me finish.

00:04:36.200 Anyone think Tommy Robertson

00:04:37.440 is a subtle man?

00:04:38.360 No, he's not a subtle man.

00:04:41.000 Yeah, because you're his followers.

00:04:41.900 Of course he's going to say that.

00:04:42.780 He's not saying,

00:04:43.180 hey, how many Ali Dao followers?

00:04:44.380 Come on,

00:04:44.940 they're going to support me.

00:04:46.180 Is Tommy a subtle man?

00:04:47.900 Look, look.

00:04:48.440 Is Tommy a subtle man?

00:04:49.600 Let me, let me, let me, let me just...

00:04:51.000 No, no, I just...

00:04:51.740 Allow me to, allow me to, allow me to...

00:04:53.840 Is Tommy a subtle man?

00:04:54.260 Let me just, let me just make a point here, yeah?

00:04:55.700 What I'm saying is, look,

00:04:56.520 does Tommy have concerns?

00:04:57.500 100%.

00:04:58.020 I'm 100%.

00:04:58.580 I know as a father he has concerns.

00:05:00.560 Just as much I have concerns as well.

00:05:02.720 What we're saying is,

00:05:03.420 instead of addressing these issues

00:05:04.700 and tacking it together,

00:05:05.820 he's made it us and them a problem, yeah?

00:05:07.640 So, grooming gangs.

00:05:09.000 Grooming gangs is a problem for me.

00:05:10.920 Why is it only a problem for you?

00:05:12.760 Can my daughter not get groomed? 1.00

00:05:13.960 He said that.

00:05:14.320 So, I'm saying...

00:05:14.880 So, who said that?

00:05:15.480 No, he said...

00:05:16.820 He comes and makes it seem like

00:05:18.280 this is an Islamic problem. 0.91

00:05:20.100 It's not an Islamic problem.

00:05:21.280 I know how daughters do get groomed. 1.00

00:05:22.280 They do a basis of...

00:05:23.520 I'm really against people using

00:05:25.940 Muslims modestly, but... 1.00

00:05:28.060 Yeah.

00:05:29.480 So, who, who?

00:05:30.540 So, basically...

00:05:30.940 Members of the grooming gangs.

00:05:32.000 No, no, no, but this is what I'm trying to say.

00:05:33.520 How is there a connection...

00:05:34.840 Okay, but where is the correlation

00:05:36.000 between grooming gangs and Islam? 0.71

00:05:37.300 I'm trying to find that out.

00:05:38.140 Oh, I'll answer that.

00:05:38.740 The majority of people in those gangs are Muslim.

00:05:40.880 Okay, one second, one second, one second.

00:05:42.340 Okay, all right.

00:05:43.200 So, majority of them are Muslim.

00:05:44.560 Okay, good.

00:05:45.140 That's good.

00:05:45.700 Okay, good.

00:05:46.340 Okay, let's analyze this.

00:05:48.140 Okay.

00:05:48.900 They're Muslims.

00:05:49.720 Yeah, okay.

00:05:50.160 They're Muslims.

00:05:50.640 No problem.

00:05:51.840 And let's see if Islam teaches them this. 0.79

00:05:55.200 Am I...

00:05:55.660 Who saw my video with Roland Southern?

00:05:57.460 Yeah.

00:05:57.960 Who saw my video with Britain first?

00:05:59.280 Jada.

00:05:59.980 Yeah?

00:06:00.300 They both wanted to shake my hand.

00:06:01.780 Yeah.

00:06:01.880 But I said no.

00:06:02.760 Yeah?

00:06:03.540 Why did I say no?

00:06:05.120 You got a right to say no.

00:06:06.820 He's not sticking to argument.

00:06:07.920 You're not referring anymore.

00:06:08.660 You're biased.

00:06:09.760 You've been paid...

00:06:10.600 Because you can't touch women who you aren't married to.

00:06:15.000 Good.

00:06:15.340 Good point.

00:06:15.920 So, number one.

00:06:16.560 I cannot touch the hand of another female. 1.00

00:06:18.980 Out of respect.

00:06:19.960 And why?

00:06:20.360 Because I have a wife.

00:06:22.320 Yeah?

00:06:22.540 Yeah.

00:06:23.140 I'm not supposed to.

00:06:24.000 Number two.

00:06:24.820 In the Quran, how many Muslims are here?

00:06:27.440 Drinking alcohol.

00:06:28.240 Is it a major sin?

00:06:28.960 Yeah.

00:06:29.760 It's a major sin.

00:06:30.480 Major sin.

00:06:30.900 Not minor sin.

00:06:31.540 Major sin, yeah?

00:06:32.580 And that means you'll be punished really severely, yeah?

00:06:34.980 Number three.

00:06:35.840 Are you allowed to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage?

00:06:38.640 No.

00:06:39.220 Major sin.

00:06:39.960 Major sin, yeah?

00:06:40.800 Scholars even...

00:06:41.300 That's not fun.

00:06:44.220 You can do it in the right way, you know, without messing women around, yeah? 1.00

00:06:48.000 Okay?

00:06:48.320 Women have rights as well. 0.99

00:06:49.360 So, number four.

00:06:50.500 Doing drugs.

00:06:51.100 Is it a haram major sin?

00:06:53.180 Yes.

00:06:53.520 Major sin.

00:06:54.020 So, let me get this right now.

00:06:55.640 They're Muslims.

00:06:56.320 Let's suppose, arguments take.

00:06:57.360 Yeah, they're Muslims.

00:06:57.780 Because I can come and say, you know what?

00:06:58.940 A majority of paedophiles are white men.

00:07:00.320 But I don't come and say, condemn it, condemn it, condemn it, condemn it.

00:07:03.480 So, so, so, one second.

00:07:04.640 That's not a grooming gang, though.

00:07:06.100 Yeah.

00:07:06.540 That's not a grooming gang, Ali.

00:07:06.920 You're starting to upset me now.

00:07:08.620 Ali, Ali.

00:07:09.100 That's individual.

00:07:09.480 I can get quite emotional.

00:07:10.620 Let me finish.

00:07:11.700 Let me finish.

00:07:12.580 Let me finish.

00:07:13.040 I'll divert you, yeah?

00:07:13.620 I'll say, okay.

00:07:14.420 Let me finish.

00:07:14.800 You know what?

00:07:15.160 Because you're going to do...

00:07:15.860 No, no, I'm going to say I was going to agree with your wrong point.

00:07:17.680 Yeah, yeah, no, no, I know.

00:07:18.340 So, I'll say this.

00:07:18.820 Can we shake on that?

00:07:19.340 Yeah, thank you.

00:07:20.340 So, I'll say this.

00:07:21.080 Can I just address this?

00:07:21.940 Can I just...

00:07:22.880 In fact, it's covered up.

00:07:24.580 It's covered up.

00:07:25.240 I'm going to come to that.

00:07:25.800 Because they would rather see how kids get raped than to be called racist by a little. 0.96

00:07:30.180 Good point.

00:07:30.620 That's a very good point.

00:07:31.640 I'm going to come to that, yeah?

00:07:32.640 So, what I'm saying is, Islam, these people who are doing these acts, they are outright going 1.00

00:07:38.360 against Islam. 0.98

00:07:39.480 You know what they're doing?

00:07:40.120 What they're doing is, they're actually kind of putting a middle finger after God's law

00:07:44.260 and saying, I don't care.

00:07:45.400 I'm going to do what my desires want.

00:07:46.920 And Islam came to abolish that and said, jihad.

00:07:49.380 Jihad is one of the, and the standards is that you're in a struggle.

00:07:53.380 You fight yourself.

00:07:54.260 I want to go and sleep around.

00:07:55.660 No, I fear God.

00:07:56.520 I shouldn't.

00:07:56.900 I should do the right things.

00:07:57.900 So, these people are outright doing what's wrong.

00:08:00.740 Islam's teaching.

00:08:01.700 So, therefore, Islam is against this. 0.88

00:08:04.040 So, let's suppose for argument to say, the most that you can say is an Asian problem. 0.55

00:08:07.840 The most that you can say that is an Asian problem. 0.58

00:08:11.300 However, then it will come down to paedophilia.

00:08:14.280 I cannot come to all you white guys and say, go and condemn paedophilia.

00:08:17.240 Because the majority of them that are doing it are, no, but you shouldn't.

00:08:20.880 Why are you to blame for what that guy does?

00:08:22.860 Okay, look, Ali, Ali.

00:08:24.360 Now, coming back to what you said, yeah?

00:08:26.020 Should it be covered up?

00:08:26.980 No.

00:08:27.580 I'm against it.

00:08:28.300 Why are we throwing it under the carpet till it stinks?

00:08:30.800 I'm saying it should be tackled.

00:08:32.100 Because.

00:08:32.620 And it shouldn't be covered.

00:08:34.060 It shouldn't be covered.

00:08:34.960 It shouldn't be covered.

00:08:35.980 No, that's wrong.

00:08:36.840 It should not be covered.

00:08:37.700 Why?

00:08:38.160 Because we might be branded as racist.

00:08:39.680 Bruv, there's a problem.

00:08:40.720 If young girls are being groomed, you have to. 0.84

00:08:42.840 We have to be with what we are.

00:08:44.220 No, no, no.

00:08:45.620 This is wrong.

00:08:46.220 I'm telling you, this might be shocking to you.

00:08:48.760 And you have every.

00:08:49.900 Look, I don't believe.

00:08:50.760 Look, should I tell you something?

00:08:51.780 No, no, no.

00:08:52.120 I never said it's racist.

00:08:52.860 Never once I've said it's racist.

00:08:53.940 I believe it's an Islamophobia. 0.87

00:08:55.260 I don't believe.

00:08:56.340 Look.

00:08:56.780 No, no, no.

00:08:57.360 Look, there is such a word.

00:08:59.660 So, therefore, do you understand?

00:09:00.640 We're on the same page.

00:09:01.320 I'm with you.

00:09:02.080 Due to political correctness, we should not brush it under the carpet.

00:09:06.320 It has to be addressed.

00:09:07.080 Did you say the other people do political correctness?

00:09:08.820 No, no, no, no, no.

00:09:10.080 Sorry, sorry.

00:09:10.560 I misheard you.

00:09:11.120 Because of political correctness, this does not mean, oh, just so we're not branded racist.

00:09:15.360 Shh, let white girls get raped. 1.00

00:09:16.720 No, that could be my daughter.

00:09:18.600 I've said this before to a father that I talked to.

00:09:20.740 I said, if you knew my daughter was going through this, would you do something about it?

00:09:22.940 He goes, yeah.

00:09:23.440 I said, do you really believe?

00:09:24.520 I'm going to know my next door neighbor's girl's been groomed.

00:09:26.720 I'm going to be, oh, it's a white girl. 0.99

00:09:27.580 Who cares?

00:09:28.620 I should question my humanity.

00:09:30.280 Do you think that they see their mask eating?

00:09:32.520 Next, he's next.

00:09:33.600 So, look, it's a major trend, though, with Scotland.

00:09:37.360 All right, I'm with you, I'm with you.

00:09:38.420 With Cologne, that was thousands of people pulling people.

00:09:41.960 But do you understand?

00:09:43.100 We have something in common.

00:09:44.340 Yeah?

00:09:44.800 And this is why we need to talk.

00:09:46.500 That's why we love freedom of speech.

00:09:47.940 Because when we educate, I know you guys are going to go back home and say,

00:09:50.500 flippin' hell, man.

00:09:51.340 I didn't know these guys were like that.

00:09:52.660 So this is why communication is key.

00:09:54.660 If you love freedom of speech, that makes you right wing then, yeah?

00:09:57.380 No, why would it make you right wing?

00:09:58.620 I didn't look.

00:09:59.620 It just makes me someone that I have freedom of speech.

00:10:02.640 So you hate them for then?

00:10:04.400 No, no, no.

00:10:05.640 Are they against freedom of speech?

00:10:07.180 Oh, okay.

00:10:07.560 Yes, they are.

00:10:08.160 No, no, no, no.

00:10:09.040 They're against hate speech.

00:10:09.960 There's a difference.

00:10:11.360 There's a difference.

00:10:12.120 Ali, Ali.

00:10:12.780 There's a difference.

00:10:14.120 It's freedom of speech.

00:10:15.520 It's hate speech.

00:10:16.520 Don't fight brown fascists.

00:10:18.460 Say it again one more time.

00:10:19.380 Don't fight.

00:10:19.820 Yeah, that's true.

00:10:20.740 Antifa only see fascism when it's white.

00:10:23.000 No, no, no.

00:10:23.520 Racism.

00:10:24.320 Can you define hate speech?

00:10:25.680 Define hate speech.

00:10:26.300 Ali, wait.

00:10:26.900 I just want to ask a question first.

00:10:28.080 So I understand that you care about Muslims in the community, right?

00:10:34.300 I care about everyone, not just Muslims.

00:10:35.700 Yeah, but when Islam is being seen in a bad light, you care about that, right? 0.99

00:10:41.520 And I understand when it comes to these grooming gangs, and they are Muslim people doing it. 1.00

00:10:46.600 Why do you have to say Muslim?

00:10:47.640 No, why do you bring Muslim into it? 0.99

00:10:48.600 No, because it's mostly Muslim.

00:10:49.680 Look, I'm not inciting anything.

00:10:51.700 Is that a problem?

00:10:52.760 Ali, wait, wait, wait.

00:10:53.680 Guys, guys.

00:10:54.140 Let's go on.

00:10:54.860 No, okay, look.

00:10:55.520 I'm not saying it's an Islamic thing, right?

00:10:57.140 Okay.

00:10:57.360 I'm saying that shouldn't it be up to people in the community?

00:11:00.780 Nothing to do with Islam. 0.94

00:11:01.980 But there are people who are...

00:11:03.460 Don't identify them as Muslim. 1.00

00:11:04.260 You can say misusing.

00:11:04.980 I'm not saying it is.

00:11:05.360 Look, you go around and say...

00:11:06.740 Ali, I'm not saying it is.

00:11:07.800 Okay, give me that.

00:11:08.720 Wait, wait.

00:11:09.160 Wait a minute.

00:11:09.740 I'm not saying it is Islam, right? 0.99

00:11:11.260 I'm saying, but there are people who will try and use things.

00:11:15.020 Use what?

00:11:15.500 Use what?

00:11:15.800 They will use...

00:11:16.800 Okay, so they'll use things about...

00:11:18.400 They'll use things in...

00:11:20.160 They'll try and use things in some of the scripture.

00:11:23.960 No.

00:11:24.360 Yes, they will.

00:11:24.960 You can't use nothing from them.

00:11:25.740 But it's up to people.

00:11:27.540 It's up to imams. 1.00

00:11:28.560 It's up to scholars to disown them, right?

00:11:30.580 Of course.

00:11:31.020 And ishifat was against what certain people are doing in the name of Islam.

00:11:35.800 No, no, no.

00:11:36.640 So it should be self-regulating.

00:11:38.160 I know you go and preach...

00:11:39.380 What's your name?

00:11:40.380 Max, you go and preach to Muslims saying what is haram and what is halal, right? 0.99

00:11:45.320 Yeah.

00:11:45.580 Because you want people to obviously have a...

00:11:47.920 If they're going to be a Muslim, then live a righteous life, right?

00:11:50.340 Yeah.

00:11:50.580 So when there are Muslims who are not living in what your opinion is a righteous life,

00:11:55.100 and I totally agree that these people are not acting in an Islamic way,

00:11:58.080 then it is up to the community to ishifat was against them.

00:12:01.580 And say that you're not acting in the name of Islam,

00:12:04.740 you're acting in an un-Islamic way.

00:12:10.000 Un-Islamic life. 1.00

00:12:10.740 But the thing is that they are people of the Muslim community who are doing it.

00:12:14.500 Not all of them, but a lot of them are.

00:12:17.000 And they're acting in networks.

00:12:19.060 Could I just interject?

00:12:19.960 Yeah.

00:12:20.300 On that point, these Muslims who do these acts, 1.00

00:12:23.200 they already know that the community...

00:12:24.500 They know where they stand when it comes to Islam and the community.

00:12:26.760 Yeah.

00:12:27.440 Muslim boys who have girlfriends,

00:12:29.320 they hide from their family,

00:12:30.520 hide from the community just when they got a girlfriend.

00:12:32.500 Yeah.

00:12:32.740 Let alone when they're grooming.

00:12:33.740 So they already know where the community stands.

00:12:36.000 Look, look, look.

00:12:36.960 Having a girlfriend isn't...

00:12:38.180 They already know where the community stands.

00:12:39.800 Sorry, sorry.

00:12:39.820 Right.

00:12:41.020 So they're hiding...

00:12:41.920 Sorry, guys.

00:12:44.540 Sorry.

00:12:44.880 Don't approve of this.

00:12:45.860 So these grooming gangs,

00:12:47.080 when they do these acts,

00:12:47.960 they're hiding from their own community.

00:12:49.420 They do it because they know Islam,

00:12:50.720 don't approve of it.

00:12:51.420 Right.

00:12:51.660 If their imam knows,

00:12:52.660 their family knows...

00:12:53.380 They'll get slapped up, silly.

00:12:54.740 They'll get slapped up, silly.

00:12:55.580 I know, sir.

00:12:56.440 They'll get a backhand.

00:12:57.540 Yeah.

00:12:58.540 You know the fatwa you're asking for, the fatwa? 0.88

00:13:00.400 Where?

00:13:00.600 It was given 1,400 years ago, mate.

00:13:02.500 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:02.960 That's a very good point.

00:13:04.220 None of us have a very good point.

00:13:05.560 What I'm saying is...

00:13:06.380 Now, hear me out, hear me out.

00:13:07.940 Would it be fair for me to come and say,

00:13:10.900 paedophilia, that's happening.

00:13:12.940 Right.

00:13:13.460 Because it's...

00:13:14.440 Because it's...

00:13:16.320 Because if these people look a lot like you guys,

00:13:19.300 can you guys condemn it on camera now?

00:13:20.780 Let's together.

00:13:21.440 Is that fair for me to do?

00:13:22.560 If it was people...

00:13:23.880 Okay, if it was people...

00:13:24.480 Let's say most people here are Christian.

00:13:25.740 I don't know.

00:13:26.420 But let's say if there's someone

00:13:27.360 who was using some sort of interpretation of Christianity

00:13:31.400 and saying,

00:13:32.040 look, this means that we can...

00:13:33.740 No, they don't.

00:13:34.540 Show me one of these grooming gangs.

00:13:36.240 Show me one of these grooming gangs

00:13:37.520 that said I groomed this girl 1.00

00:13:38.920 because the Quran told me to.

00:13:39.960 If there's a Christian gang in Mexico 0.95

00:13:41.300 who are peddling drugs...

00:13:42.500 No, that's what he's saying.

00:13:43.600 He said that.

00:13:44.760 He said that.

00:13:45.080 He said that.

00:13:45.320 If there's a Christian... 1.00

00:13:46.220 If there's a Catholic gang... 1.00

00:13:47.360 He said that he was supposed to emulate him, right?

00:13:48.580 There's a Catholic gang in Mexico.

00:13:49.760 Are you saying...

00:13:50.460 One second.

00:13:51.060 That's...

00:13:51.240 That's...

00:13:51.820 That's...

00:13:52.140 That's not the topic.

00:13:53.180 He married.

00:13:53.800 He married her.

00:13:54.740 He didn't groom her.

00:13:55.300 He married her.

00:13:55.920 He married her.

00:13:57.340 He married her.

00:13:58.120 I've said this before.

00:13:59.060 I've said this before.

00:14:00.780 She was six and cosplayed at nine.

00:14:02.940 No, no.

00:14:03.560 What's the...

00:14:03.960 What's the context?

00:14:05.040 No, hold on a second.

00:14:06.180 That's the point.

00:14:07.340 Exactly.

00:14:07.840 There you go.

00:14:08.460 This is...

00:14:09.100 This is...

00:14:09.360 This is...

00:14:10.000 One second.

00:14:11.120 Shh, shh, shh.

00:14:12.080 This is ignorance.

00:14:13.280 This is ignorance.

00:14:14.140 I'm going to talk about it.

00:14:14.840 Can we talk about it?

00:14:15.920 Can we talk about it properly?

00:14:17.500 Can we talk about it properly?

00:14:19.140 Can we talk about it?

00:14:19.740 I've said this before.

00:14:20.640 I've said it before.

00:14:21.340 One second.

00:14:22.220 One second.

00:14:22.560 Are you ready to debate it?

00:14:23.920 Are you going to debate it?

00:14:24.980 Answer my question.

00:14:25.760 I will answer it.

00:14:26.440 Do you want to have a debate?

00:14:27.640 You can't...

00:14:28.320 This is not a yes or no answer.

00:14:29.740 It's context.

00:14:30.320 Yes or no.

00:14:30.940 This is a context.

00:14:32.360 Exactly.

00:14:33.080 Okay.

00:14:33.700 UK was a pedophile country 100 years ago.

00:14:36.860 One second.

00:14:37.740 There you go.

00:14:38.640 Double standards.

00:14:39.680 Double standards.

00:14:40.960 Educate yourself.

00:14:41.760 Please.

00:14:42.040 You've come here...

00:14:42.700 No, no.

00:14:43.060 You've come here with hate.

00:14:44.220 You came here with hate.

00:14:45.400 I have.

00:14:45.720 That's why I'm trying to educate you.

00:14:46.780 You've come here with hate.

00:14:48.000 All you did is...

00:14:48.400 I don't want to listen to you.

00:14:49.400 I don't want to listen to you.

00:14:50.760 I've answered it.

00:14:52.820 I answered it.

00:14:53.460 When Robinson asked me,

00:14:54.540 I answered it.

00:14:55.720 Okay.

00:14:56.480 Yes, I'm the one.

00:14:57.560 Show me one hate that I've said.

00:14:58.660 Show me one hate that I've said.

00:14:59.920 Show me one hate that I've said.

00:15:01.980 I do.

00:15:02.480 I told Robinson this.

00:15:03.440 When am I racist?

00:15:04.220 Tell me whenever I preach hate.

00:15:05.780 Whenever I preach hate.

00:15:06.780 You hate the truth, man.

00:15:08.620 I'm going to answer it.

00:15:09.240 Can we ask this?

00:15:09.880 When have I preached hate?

00:15:11.500 You can't handle the truth.

00:15:12.860 You hate the truth.

00:15:14.240 Am I a hate preacher

00:15:14.880 or can't handle the truth?

00:15:15.560 Which one?

00:15:16.400 You can't handle the truth.

00:15:17.580 Okay, I know I'm a hate preacher.

00:15:18.800 You can't handle the truth.

00:15:19.420 Okay, can you tell me

00:15:20.500 whenever I preach hate?

00:15:21.880 Whenever I preach hate?

00:15:23.040 There is that guy

00:15:24.160 who wants to kill Tommy Robinson.

00:15:26.200 Which one?

00:15:26.640 You were waiting to ask

00:15:27.260 New Christians are valid, man.

00:15:28.640 Oh, okay.

00:15:29.340 Hang on.

00:15:29.880 Okay, one second, one second.

00:15:31.480 One second.

00:15:33.180 One second.

00:15:34.100 One second.

00:15:35.000 One second.

00:15:35.500 Tommy Robinson doesn't beat the guy

00:15:36.600 because he's mentally disturbed, 0.84

00:15:37.680 but when the guy says Ali,

00:15:38.580 that way he takes him seriously.

00:15:39.340 All right, so with Tommy Robinson,

00:15:41.360 I think that what he's trying to get at

00:15:43.120 is that when you were liking him to Hitler

00:15:47.040 and you say if he did have power,

00:15:48.640 that if he had that power,

00:15:50.320 he would slaughter Muslims. 1.00

00:15:52.120 It's like when you're saying that,

00:15:54.240 that is obviously going to influence

00:15:55.940 the actions of other people.

00:15:56.940 They're going to be like,

00:15:57.400 oh my God, there's this significant threat.

00:15:59.680 I don't think Tommy's necessarily

00:16:01.180 against the people.

00:16:02.280 He's just against the ideology.

00:16:03.120 He's not racist.

00:16:04.600 He wants to attack your arguments.

00:16:07.300 He doesn't want to attack you physically.

00:16:08.380 He wants to attack my arguments.

00:16:09.340 He's been running away for one whole year.

00:16:10.980 I have to chase him.

00:16:12.280 He's challenged everyone.

00:16:13.880 This book teaches take you 133 verses.

00:16:16.200 One verse?

00:16:16.980 Tommy, one verse?

00:16:18.300 133.

00:16:18.800 One verse.

00:16:19.480 One.

00:16:19.900 Not one verse came.

00:16:21.020 Can I ask you a question, Ali?

00:16:22.120 Not one verse.

00:16:22.880 Come on.

00:16:23.520 You've been saying here

00:16:24.460 that you're going to chase

00:16:25.800 that extremist in both camps.

00:16:27.580 There's a guy called Abdul Haq

00:16:28.840 that comes to the park.

00:16:30.000 Who's Abdul Haq?

00:16:30.780 On Jihadi next door, yeah? 1.00

00:16:32.180 Who's Abdul Haq?

00:16:33.160 I'll show you and then chase him, yeah?

00:16:35.120 Okay.

00:16:35.700 Because he was on Jihadi next door. 1.00

00:16:36.520 Has he said?

00:16:37.480 ISIS supporter, yeah?

00:16:38.860 Has he said that outright?

00:16:39.700 And he's been in prison as well.

00:16:40.300 Has he said outright

00:16:40.940 that he's an ISIS supporter?

00:16:42.400 Yeah, on the programme.

00:16:43.060 Then why is he on the roads, fam?

00:16:44.340 Why is he on the roads?

00:16:45.220 Lock him up.

00:16:46.380 Lock him up.

00:16:47.020 If he's coming to kill innocent people,

00:16:48.540 lock him up.

00:16:48.900 If he comes today here,

00:16:50.040 you confront him

00:16:50.820 like you confronted Tommy Robinson.

00:16:52.020 If he comes,

00:16:52.680 firstly, I can say something.

00:16:53.340 If he comes and says,

00:16:55.520 these are all kufar,

00:16:56.340 they should be killed,

00:16:56.960 I'll be a fan.

00:16:57.500 No, no, no.

00:16:57.780 Call the police, fam.

00:16:58.500 The police is there.

00:16:59.140 Go call him.

00:16:59.740 That's hypocritical.

00:17:01.520 The man's going to claim

00:17:02.580 to kill innocent people.

00:17:03.540 I'll call the police

00:17:04.100 and I'm a hypocrite.

00:17:04.680 I will do it,

00:17:05.060 but he's being a hypocrite. 0.93

00:17:06.500 How am I a hypocrite?

00:17:07.640 Raj, Raj, Raj, Raj.

00:17:09.500 I agree with a lot

00:17:10.160 of what Tommy Robinson said,

00:17:11.120 but not with the racists.

00:17:12.120 Raj, Raj, Raj.

00:17:12.500 Are you bipolar?

00:17:14.220 I don't know.

00:17:14.600 Because last week,

00:17:15.640 we could go,

00:17:17.080 I'm against Tommy Robinson

00:17:18.340 and this,

00:17:18.760 today he comes.

00:17:19.360 Make your mind up.

00:17:20.620 You seem very confused.

00:17:21.600 When did I say

00:17:22.140 I was against Tommy Robinson?

00:17:22.400 You do.

00:17:23.160 When you got caught

00:17:23.760 with that video

00:17:24.420 with National,

00:17:25.240 what are they called?

00:17:25.620 I'm against racist.

00:17:26.820 National front.

00:17:27.480 No, I wasn't with National front.

00:17:28.200 No, National front.

00:17:28.780 No, National front.

00:17:29.200 No, National front.

00:17:29.820 That guy who came from,

00:17:31.200 you know that guy

00:17:32.240 who couldn't come in

00:17:33.060 with his girlfriend?

00:17:35.380 North Slander.

00:17:36.200 When they interviewed you.

00:17:37.380 Peter Sweden?

00:17:38.140 Yeah.

00:17:38.660 I didn't know he was.

00:17:39.500 You didn't know.

00:17:40.320 Okay, Raj, right.

00:17:41.780 I'm against all kinds of extremism.

00:17:42.960 There's a problem with grooming.

00:17:43.780 I don't care.

00:17:44.340 I speak against Sikhs. 1.00

00:17:46.560 I speak against

00:17:47.220 Anjum Choudhury,

00:17:48.280 ISIS.

00:17:48.860 I don't care.

00:17:49.880 Let me tell you something.

00:17:50.960 You know why?

00:17:51.580 You know why I'm against extremists,

00:17:52.800 yeah?

00:17:52.920 Let me tell you something,

00:17:53.640 yeah?

00:17:53.760 Look.

00:17:54.040 We'll find him today.

00:17:54.620 Let me tell you why.

00:17:55.340 Let me tell you.

00:17:55.780 When I find him,

00:17:56.420 let's confront him.

00:17:57.380 Let me tell you.

00:17:57.960 Allow me.

00:17:58.300 Allow me.

00:17:58.580 Let me tell you something,

00:17:59.240 yeah?

00:17:59.500 The reason why I'm against extremists

00:18:00.720 is because you know why?

00:18:01.440 We are the ones that suffer.

00:18:02.760 There's a line.

00:18:03.180 Look, imagine there's a line here,

00:18:04.180 yeah?

00:18:04.300 And I suffer as well

00:18:04.980 because I look like this.

00:18:05.640 Yeah, I know.

00:18:05.940 We don't want to suffer.

00:18:06.500 Why are you suffering

00:18:07.000 because you look like that?

00:18:07.380 Yeah, no, no.

00:18:07.960 Most people can't tell

00:18:08.740 I'm a Sikh, can they?

00:18:10.520 When I'm walking around

00:18:11.340 with this...

00:18:11.720 That looks so dangerous.

00:18:12.480 You didn't see where to do it.

00:18:13.080 It's a little bit dangerous.

00:18:13.580 This side, this side, this side.

00:18:14.880 Yeah, you've got to scare people

00:18:15.700 if you do that.

00:18:16.100 I'm not one of the good guys.

00:18:16.660 Especially with this, man.

00:18:17.680 So, what I'm trying to say is this.

00:18:19.940 Imagine there's a line, yeah?

00:18:21.100 Look, we, the British public,

00:18:22.520 are on one side.

00:18:23.100 We're here just trying

00:18:24.740 to tackle extremism.

00:18:26.040 Anjum Choudhury,

00:18:27.040 ISIS, 0.60

00:18:27.880 far-right groups

00:18:28.580 like Tommy Robinson,

00:18:29.560 Britain First,

00:18:30.280 are on this side.

00:18:31.320 I'm not saying they're

00:18:32.120 exactly equivalent to ISIS

00:18:33.300 because ISIS outright

00:18:34.160 just goes into madness

00:18:35.180 and kills Muslims. 0.81

00:18:36.580 They kill Muslims 1.00

00:18:37.200 and blow up mosques, yeah?

00:18:38.300 They're on one side

00:18:39.260 saying,

00:18:40.240 preaching hate.

00:18:41.140 Who suffers?

00:18:42.260 We suffer.

00:18:43.100 You end up getting run over

00:18:44.140 or I end up getting run over.

00:18:45.440 Why?

00:18:46.060 Oh, the Kufar. 1.00

00:18:47.400 Oh, no.

00:18:48.100 Muslim, they want to take over. 1.00

00:18:49.300 Infidel, blah, blah. 0.99

00:18:50.160 We are the ones

00:18:51.020 who are getting run over

00:18:51.760 and I'm here to stop that

00:18:53.060 because if we don't,

00:18:54.380 more people are going to die

00:18:55.240 like you and like me

00:18:56.520 at the hands of these people

00:18:57.720 who are pocketing money

00:18:58.880 and doing it for their own agenda

00:19:00.020 by speaking out against it.

Ali Dawah - March 28, 2018

5 GUYS WITH MULTIPLE QUESTIONS - SPEAKERS CORNER

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