Ali Dawah - ALEX'S MAKES SHAPIRO VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND THIS HAPPENS

00:00:00.000 Would you rather your child comes to you and says,

00:00:02.380 think I'm going to convert to Islam?

00:00:04.360 Or said, I don't think I believe in God anymore.

00:00:06.800 Half of the Christian population in the United States

00:00:08.460 are immediately going to convert today 1.00

00:00:10.140 to atheism if you press this button

00:00:11.940 or to Islam if you press this button.

00:00:14.120 Which one would you press?

00:00:18.280 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

00:00:19.920 dear brothers and sisters.

00:00:21.380 As we watch what is unfolding today in Gaza,

00:00:24.080 we have to understand that opposition

00:00:26.480 is counting on us to lose attention,

00:00:28.760 to become fatigued and to move on with the new cycle.

00:00:31.700 And just as we can't allow them to dictate our attention,

00:00:34.960 we also can't allow them to dictate the pace of our solidarity.

00:00:38.080 And part of that solidarity is going to be there

00:00:40.180 to rebuild Gaza short-term, long-term.

00:00:43.640 I am proud to give my support, my word of support

00:00:46.940 to trusted brothers and sisters in the United Kingdom

00:00:49.480 that have started a waqf, that have started an endowment

00:00:52.020 to make sure, inshallah ta'ala, that we're there for the long run.

00:00:54.720 It's going to be long-term and we will not forget our cause

00:00:58.440 in Palestine, we will not forget the cause of Al-Aqsa and we will not forget Bidn

00:01:02.580 and Na'i Ta'ana, our brothers and sisters in Gaza.

00:01:05.200 Jazakumullah khairah.

00:01:06.160 Wassalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

00:01:10.720 So Ben Shapiro was asked by Alex O'Connor if there was two buttons, one to turn America,

00:01:17.000 the civilization, the civilians in America, all to atheism or the other button to make

00:01:22.720 them Muslim, which one would he pick? 0.85

00:01:24.760 Let's find out for ourselves.

00:01:25.880 I wonder, and I hope it's not a crude question, and it's one sort of stemming from genuine interest.

00:01:30.400 Would you rather your child comes to you and says, you know, I think I'm going to convert to Islam,

00:01:38.640 or said, I don't think I believe in God anymore?

00:01:42.400 As a Jew, I'm fairly indifferent on the question, meaning that my priority is for my child to remain.

00:01:48.160 brother if they asked me and said would you rather them become a christian or an atheist i'll be like 0.76

00:01:56.960 the people of the kitab like from the evidence that we have from the people of the book at least

00:02:00.080 they believe in god even though we know there's trinity issue they believe in the hereafter the 0.66

00:02:04.320 day of judgment the angels the books the prophets they have so much in common atheists they have no

00:02:09.600 moral compass i mean i would incline towards christianity if they said to me atheism and

00:02:15.760 judaism i would go with judaism because they have more close to theology when it comes to who god

00:02:20.080 is but him as a practicing orthodox jew should we say found it very difficult to answer jew and

00:02:26.960 which direction they go from there is of is of much less interest to me than than staying inside

00:02:32.480 the religious tradition that i believe is correct okay maybe i should rephrase to say uh suppose

00:02:37.440 that you know half of the u.s population immediately right now and half of let's say the let's say half

00:02:44.320 of the christian population so it's not to do with judaism and it's and and it's not to do with your

00:02:49.200 own family half of the christian population in the united states are immediately going to convert

00:02:53.600 today to atheism if you press this button or to islam if you press this button which one which

00:02:59.360 one would you press so i'm going to ask for more specificity in line with the conversation so which

00:03:04.560 form of islam are we talking about and which form of atheism are we talking about because they come

00:03:07.760 in various strains but meaning like if if the reason he finds that hard to answer is because

00:03:12.560 his loyalty is to his land israel okay above his region i believe okay that's the reason why because

00:03:19.120 when he says islam is like yo anything but islam and this reminds me of the jews at the time of 0.80

00:03:24.320 the prophet muhammad bana quraida bana kainuka and bana these were hostile christian jews to the

00:03:28.720 muslims who when they went to the pagan arabs and said the pagan arabs asked him whose religion is 0.79

00:03:32.640 better us or muhammad's yeah they said yours i do worship is that their religion says that they 1.00

00:03:38.880 should be destroyed like amalek yes they said them and this is why you find it so hard for him to see 0.95

00:03:45.040 it's just the first thing you ask me out of straight judaism man all day every day starting 0.98

00:03:48.320 from the premise of no god or islamic god that actually is not enough information because as i

00:03:52.080 say i'm not judging people based on their faith propositions nearly as much as i am based on

00:03:56.640 their behavior okay i'm gonna not try to interrupt this thing as much but guys one is believing in

00:04:01.600 god and one is a denial of god what what context do you flipping need one believes in god the one

00:04:07.280 true god that you jews even believe that we will be we that that the prophet muhammad some believe

00:04:12.560 that he was a prophet to the gentiles he's like no what do you mean by the stomach god if you're

00:04:16.800 which i think they base on faith propositions say this is the only thing that changes uh you press

00:04:20.400 this button half the christian population become convinced that there is no real god of the

00:04:25.360 universe everything else is is is random whatever you might because what we're discussing here is

00:04:30.320 essentially what what are the implications of such a world what are the implications of atheism which

00:04:34.320 which is just the disbelief in God

00:04:36.340 or the belief that there is not God.

00:04:37.080 So people have memories?

00:04:37.820 Sorry, in this hypothetical,

00:04:38.960 do people have memories or they don't have memories?

00:04:40.080 Because this makes a difference.

00:04:41.120 Yeah, they have memories.

00:04:41.920 Okay, fine.

00:04:42.340 So then probably...

00:04:43.760 Look, there we go.

00:04:44.300 Now he broke it.

00:04:45.100 Alex O'Connor said,

00:04:45.600 okay, let me break that even more.

00:04:47.680 Let's see his reply.

00:04:48.500 In the West, atheism, 0.61

00:04:49.920 as opposed to a more radical form of Islam.

00:04:51.980 That's why I was asking for specificity

00:04:53.080 because they're more moderate forms.

00:04:53.720 The button on the right-hand side

00:04:54.480 was going to be that they just become convinced 0.52

00:04:55.900 that Muhammad is the final prophet of God. 1.00

00:04:58.080 Right, and again,

00:04:58.800 I was going to ask for more specificity on that

00:05:00.200 because I know many moderate Muslims

00:05:01.540 who are not radical in the implication of their faith

00:05:04.160 as opposed to some who very much are quite radical

00:05:07.220 in the implications of their faith.

00:05:08.760 So, but let's, if you don't mind,

00:05:10.700 I'm going to set up your hypothetical

00:05:12.240 in a way that I think is more clarifying for me anyway.

00:05:15.540 And that is version, button on the right is radical Islam,

00:05:19.120 like Taliban style Islam. 0.85

00:05:20.300 Okay. 0.69

00:05:20.640 And button on the left is don't believe in God.

00:05:23.800 Well, I mean, you can do that.

00:05:25.680 I mean, you see how he defines radical Islam.

00:05:28.760 He can't just say Islam. 0.98

00:05:29.800 He has to put Islam to radicalization 1.00

00:05:32.180 Islam equals radicalization 0.95

00:05:33.520 And where's your evidence for that? 1.00

00:05:34.980 Objectively, where?

00:05:36.060 Nowhere

00:05:36.420 So why does he keep saying radical, Taliban

00:05:38.360 Why are you putting those things?

00:05:40.100 I'm a Muslim 1.00

00:05:40.780 I'm an awful Muslim 1.00

00:05:43.260 That follows my religion 0.86

00:05:44.280 I'm not Taliban

00:05:44.800 I'm not these lunatics 0.89

00:05:46.440 Whatever you want to call it, etc. 0.68

00:05:48.120 Okay, like ISIS and etc.

00:05:50.420 So why is he afraid?

00:05:52.180 And he's putting this in this category

00:05:53.920 I'm doing that is because that elucidates

00:05:55.460 That elucidates a difference

00:05:58.040 that I think is being obscured by the simple sort of belief in God, not belief in God question,

00:06:02.800 meaning that the cultural heritage of, that's why I asked if people have memories or people

00:06:07.180 don't have memories. If people have memories, then that looks very much like secular Europe

00:06:12.160 right now, which does have in the bloodstream a lot of Judeo-Christian values in a way that

00:06:16.780 would not be true if you're without memory, right? Would I rather that a child found in a forest be

00:06:22.660 raised in a moderate Muslim household or be raised in a secular communist household? 0.86

00:06:27.500 or a secular atheist household if i may say again from which tradition are we talking in the ussr

00:06:31.980 are we talking in britain like what are we talking about britain okay so we're talking about the us

00:06:35.980 but let's say britain in in in britain um depends on the strain of islam if we're talking about like

00:06:41.020 a a liberal form of islam which do exist and probably a liberal form of islam okay good fine

00:06:45.100 he's admitted liberal form of islam okay why does it have to be a liberal form of islam

00:06:49.100 what do you define as liberal form of islam i don't understand what do you mean by liberal

00:06:52.060 form of islam yeah and why is your category liberalism are you a liberal no you're not

00:06:57.420 you're not are you a liberal you're an orthodox you are an orthodox full-blown zionist yes you 0.84

00:07:02.860 are you are the terrorist version of judaism like jews extreme jews is you you are you don't even 0.97

00:07:10.060 class what's happened as a genocide in gaza my friend if anything you are more radical 0.99

00:07:15.900 then at least these nutters yes who have not committed genocide they've done crazy stuff

00:07:21.100 killing innocent people mostly muslims as well yes but they haven't committed a genocide just 0.85

00:07:25.180 the way your state does so when you talk about liberals where you where you get why are you as 0.64

00:07:28.540 a orthodox jew focused on liberalism i don't understand talking about a fundamentalist form

00:07:33.660 of islam then then probably a secular strain of britain fun so he would prefer instead of radical

00:07:39.260 form of islam which i don't know what that is practicing muslims who fear god and are stringent

00:07:43.660 in the in in the way they follow islam he would rather go for people who have no god no morality 0.89

00:07:50.300 you name it i'm a piano i'm this i'm that um and all of those things yes degeneracy rather that 0.98

00:07:57.580 than people who observe islam and who are saying that we should be just and have just wars against 0.76

00:08:04.620 oppressors that are killing innocent people he would rather go of atheists come itself i'm 0.96

00:08:07.980 telling you i'm saying these radical zionist jews radical ones they exist at the prophet 0.89

00:08:12.300 mohammed peace be upon him and there were those actual jews who were just they existed at the

00:08:16.140 time of the prophet mohammed peace be upon him they did not they stuck to their treaties with 0.81

00:08:18.860 the prophet mahmad the prophet mahmad peace be upon him protected them went to war for them

00:08:23.820 there you go now here alex o'connor pushes him further and gives him some very very troubling

00:08:28.860 disturbing immoral verses in the old testament that let's see what uh you know uh this radical

00:08:37.900 zionist drew will say about that let's hear when alex o'connor presses him let's see what he has to

00:08:42.060 say and so when i when i open the old testament or the hebrew bible and when i look at the texts

00:08:47.820 saying that you you if you lay siege to a city you can you can kill if the lord delivers it into

00:08:54.300 your hand you can kill the men and the women uh but keep oh you can kill the men and keep the 0.75

00:08:58.300 women and the children and the and the and the livestock as plunder as deuteronomy says and and 0.92

00:09:02.940 uh the in the very next verse uh sorry the very next chapter says that you know if um if you see

00:09:08.780 a good-looking woman and and i'm not i'm not interjecting that if somebody finds an attractive

00:09:13.500 woman, then they can take them for themselves. And if they want them as their wives and they 1.00

00:09:18.880 take them home, they shave their head, they cut off their fingernails, they give them 30 days to

00:09:23.320 mourn their old husband, who you may very well have just killed. And then you can take them as

00:09:28.760 your wife. When Numbers 31 has Moses instruct the slaughter of the Midianites saying, kill all the 0.99

00:09:33.880 men. And this time the women get killed too, but not the women who haven't slept with a man. 0.97

00:09:37.940 And why might that be? And it says that, you know, keep them for yourselves. And I hear all the time

00:09:41.920 that this is some kind of liberalizing process, maybe it's because, you know, these people

00:09:45.160 wouldn't survive on their own. It's some kind of protective measure to make sure that you're

00:09:48.500 looking after them. If that's the case, then why does it only apply to the virgins? That seems a

00:09:52.920 little bit suspect to me. You know, in, it's sort of, scripture is littered with these kinds of,

00:09:59.200 with these kinds of. Well, again, so to go back to the sort of oral tradition nature.

00:10:02.180 And I don't think God would permit a proactive immorality, even if he can't, for some reason,

00:10:07.560 abolish the practice altogether. Well, I mean, the, well, no, that last point I don't see.

00:10:11.920 So when you say even if he can't abolish the practice altogether, well –

00:10:16.620 Which already I think he would be able to do.

00:10:18.340 Right.

00:10:18.540 So the question is whether he can or whether he can't.

00:10:21.080 If he can't abolish the practice, then the idea of wooing people away from a particular type of sin through a gradualistic process is known throughout societies across human history.

00:10:30.840 I mean the gradualistic processes are the way that most things get done across human history.

00:10:35.120 And by the way, the universal practice, unfortunately, up till today in many places in the world, is, in fact, the extreme version of what you're talking about.

00:10:42.760 Raise everything, kill everyone.

00:10:44.380 That sort of stuff, unfortunately, does take place. 0.98

00:10:46.480 It does, by your government.

00:10:48.200 Hello?

00:10:49.920 Yes, it takes place by your government, quoting scripture and acting upon it.

00:10:57.120 Prescriptive.

00:10:58.300 Even on planet Earth, even in the year 2023.

00:11:00.480 And so the idea of a culture arising.

00:11:02.360 I mean, is this guy for real?

00:11:03.360 Yes, he's talking about Israel.

00:11:04.700 Yes.

00:11:05.120 Israel has been committing that act from the Bible that not only abolished slavery on its own

00:11:09.800 shores but then abolished slavery literally everywhere else which is what Great Britain did 0.65

00:11:12.800 that again to separate that off from a tradition that also says that every human being is made in

00:11:17.300 the image of God right to the verse from Genesis or or that you have to treat the stranger well

00:11:21.940 right which is repeated more than any injunction in the Bible right there are these these traditions

00:11:27.060 that are that are at war with each other inside the Bible which is why there is this hotly fought

00:11:31.280 kind of argument inside biblical circles about all this stuff which again is one of the reasons

00:11:36.160 why i said right up top that when it gets to i can't just open the bible and interpret the text

00:11:40.320 as i would see fit well i mean there you go guys you can clearly see he would rather his children

00:11:47.040 be atheist than be radical muslim and then when it's got radicalization look at the scriptures

00:11:51.760 that he's defending and he believes in and not only that they enacted on that and what's happened

00:11:56.720 in gaza where else can it be said it just shows you misguidance the misguidance is so severe the 0.78

00:12:03.040 hatred for islam is so severe they would rather their children be atheists than muslims who

00:12:08.960 uphold abraham moses jesus and i believe if you were to ask this question to christians not all 0.94

00:12:15.120 not all like people like no logic rotten wood fake christian money uh money man who put his 0.95

00:12:22.640 wife in hijab after saying hijab is uh bad uh apos the pusillanimous weasel who cheated on his wife 0.96

00:12:27.760 the adulterer yes uh i don't even know who he would even like that that that is zionist woman 0.84

00:12:33.280 his handle that was given to him she must have cried that night oh no give me another project

00:12:36.320 please not apos anyways so the claim is what you can see they would rather see a world in atheism 0.87

00:12:41.200 than islam and this shows you how islam is the haq and it is the truth i would all day every day 0.95

00:12:46.960 Want my children 0.93

00:12:47.780 Like

00:12:48.180 If they were to give me two options 0.98

00:12:49.540 Atheist

00:12:50.940 Or Christian 1.00

00:12:52.340 They're like 1.00

00:12:53.040 Shirk 1.00

00:12:53.460 But

00:12:53.880 That

00:12:54.980 To their theology

00:12:55.880 Like even the Sahaba 1.00

00:12:56.800 They rejoice when the Romans 1.00

00:12:58.280 Beat the Persians 1.00

00:12:58.920 Because they are close to us 1.00

00:13:00.380 That's what I'm going to say

00:13:01.300 Until next time 0.99

00:13:01.860 Assalamualaikum

00:13:02.460 Wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

Ali Dawah - May 07, 2026

ALEX'S MAKES SHAPIRO VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND THIS HAPPENS

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