ALEX'S MAKES SHAPIRO VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND THIS HAPPENS
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Summary
Would you rather your child comes to you and says, "I don't think I believe in God anymore"? Or, "Half of the Christian population in the United States are immediately going to convert today to atheism if you press this button, or to Islam if you pressed this button?" Which one would you press?
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Would you rather your child comes to you and says,
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Or said, I don't think I believe in God anymore.
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Half of the Christian population in the United States
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As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
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to become fatigued and to move on with the new cycle.
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And just as we can't allow them to dictate our attention,
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we also can't allow them to dictate the pace of our solidarity.
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And part of that solidarity is going to be there
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I am proud to give my support, my word of support
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to trusted brothers and sisters in the United Kingdom
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that have started a waqf, that have started an endowment
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to make sure, inshallah ta'ala, that we're there for the long run.
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It's going to be long-term and we will not forget our cause
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in Palestine, we will not forget the cause of Al-Aqsa and we will not forget Bidn
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and Na'i Ta'ana, our brothers and sisters in Gaza.
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So Ben Shapiro was asked by Alex O'Connor if there was two buttons, one to turn America,
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the civilization, the civilians in America, all to atheism or the other button to make
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I wonder, and I hope it's not a crude question, and it's one sort of stemming from genuine interest.
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Would you rather your child comes to you and says, you know, I think I'm going to convert to Islam,
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or said, I don't think I believe in God anymore?
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As a Jew, I'm fairly indifferent on the question, meaning that my priority is for my child to remain.
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brother if they asked me and said would you rather them become a christian or an atheist i'll be like
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the people of the kitab like from the evidence that we have from the people of the book at least
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they believe in god even though we know there's trinity issue they believe in the hereafter the
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day of judgment the angels the books the prophets they have so much in common atheists they have no
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moral compass i mean i would incline towards christianity if they said to me atheism and
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judaism i would go with judaism because they have more close to theology when it comes to who god
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is but him as a practicing orthodox jew should we say found it very difficult to answer jew and
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which direction they go from there is of is of much less interest to me than than staying inside
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the religious tradition that i believe is correct okay maybe i should rephrase to say uh suppose
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that you know half of the u.s population immediately right now and half of let's say the let's say half
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of the christian population so it's not to do with judaism and it's and and it's not to do with your
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own family half of the christian population in the united states are immediately going to convert
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today to atheism if you press this button or to islam if you press this button which one which
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one would you press so i'm going to ask for more specificity in line with the conversation so which
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form of islam are we talking about and which form of atheism are we talking about because they come
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in various strains but meaning like if if the reason he finds that hard to answer is because
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his loyalty is to his land israel okay above his region i believe okay that's the reason why because
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when he says islam is like yo anything but islam and this reminds me of the jews at the time of
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the prophet muhammad bana quraida bana kainuka and bana these were hostile christian jews to the
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muslims who when they went to the pagan arabs and said the pagan arabs asked him whose religion is
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better us or muhammad's yeah they said yours i do worship is that their religion says that they
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should be destroyed like amalek yes they said them and this is why you find it so hard for him to see
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it's just the first thing you ask me out of straight judaism man all day every day starting
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from the premise of no god or islamic god that actually is not enough information because as i
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say i'm not judging people based on their faith propositions nearly as much as i am based on
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their behavior okay i'm gonna not try to interrupt this thing as much but guys one is believing in
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god and one is a denial of god what what context do you flipping need one believes in god the one
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true god that you jews even believe that we will be we that that the prophet muhammad some believe
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that he was a prophet to the gentiles he's like no what do you mean by the stomach god if you're
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which i think they base on faith propositions say this is the only thing that changes uh you press
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this button half the christian population become convinced that there is no real god of the
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universe everything else is is is random whatever you might because what we're discussing here is
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essentially what what are the implications of such a world what are the implications of atheism which
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do people have memories or they don't have memories?
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was going to be that they just become convinced
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that Muhammad is the final prophet of God.
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I was going to ask for more specificity on that
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who are not radical in the implication of their faith
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as opposed to some who very much are quite radical
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in a way that I think is more clarifying for me anyway.
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And that is version, button on the right is radical Islam,
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And button on the left is don't believe in God.
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that I think is being obscured by the simple sort of belief in God, not belief in God question,
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meaning that the cultural heritage of, that's why I asked if people have memories or people
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don't have memories. If people have memories, then that looks very much like secular Europe
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right now, which does have in the bloodstream a lot of Judeo-Christian values in a way that
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would not be true if you're without memory, right? Would I rather that a child found in a forest be
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raised in a moderate Muslim household or be raised in a secular communist household?
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or a secular atheist household if i may say again from which tradition are we talking in the ussr
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are we talking in britain like what are we talking about britain okay so we're talking about the us
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but let's say britain in in in britain um depends on the strain of islam if we're talking about like
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a a liberal form of islam which do exist and probably a liberal form of islam okay good fine
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he's admitted liberal form of islam okay why does it have to be a liberal form of islam
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what do you define as liberal form of islam i don't understand what do you mean by liberal
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form of islam yeah and why is your category liberalism are you a liberal no you're not
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you're not are you a liberal you're an orthodox you are an orthodox full-blown zionist yes you
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are you are the terrorist version of judaism like jews extreme jews is you you are you don't even
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class what's happened as a genocide in gaza my friend if anything you are more radical
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then at least these nutters yes who have not committed genocide they've done crazy stuff
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killing innocent people mostly muslims as well yes but they haven't committed a genocide just
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the way your state does so when you talk about liberals where you where you get why are you as
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a orthodox jew focused on liberalism i don't understand talking about a fundamentalist form
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of islam then then probably a secular strain of britain fun so he would prefer instead of radical
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form of islam which i don't know what that is practicing muslims who fear god and are stringent
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in the in in the way they follow islam he would rather go for people who have no god no morality
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you name it i'm a piano i'm this i'm that um and all of those things yes degeneracy rather that
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than people who observe islam and who are saying that we should be just and have just wars against
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oppressors that are killing innocent people he would rather go of atheists come itself i'm
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telling you i'm saying these radical zionist jews radical ones they exist at the prophet
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mohammed peace be upon him and there were those actual jews who were just they existed at the
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time of the prophet mohammed peace be upon him they did not they stuck to their treaties with
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the prophet mahmad the prophet mahmad peace be upon him protected them went to war for them
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there you go now here alex o'connor pushes him further and gives him some very very troubling
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disturbing immoral verses in the old testament that let's see what uh you know uh this radical
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zionist drew will say about that let's hear when alex o'connor presses him let's see what he has to
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say and so when i when i open the old testament or the hebrew bible and when i look at the texts
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saying that you you if you lay siege to a city you can you can kill if the lord delivers it into
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your hand you can kill the men and the women uh but keep oh you can kill the men and keep the
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women and the children and the and the and the livestock as plunder as deuteronomy says and and
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uh the in the very next verse uh sorry the very next chapter says that you know if um if you see
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a good-looking woman and and i'm not i'm not interjecting that if somebody finds an attractive
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woman, then they can take them for themselves. And if they want them as their wives and they
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take them home, they shave their head, they cut off their fingernails, they give them 30 days to
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mourn their old husband, who you may very well have just killed. And then you can take them as
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your wife. When Numbers 31 has Moses instruct the slaughter of the Midianites saying, kill all the
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men. And this time the women get killed too, but not the women who haven't slept with a man.
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And why might that be? And it says that, you know, keep them for yourselves. And I hear all the time
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that this is some kind of liberalizing process, maybe it's because, you know, these people
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wouldn't survive on their own. It's some kind of protective measure to make sure that you're
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looking after them. If that's the case, then why does it only apply to the virgins? That seems a
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little bit suspect to me. You know, in, it's sort of, scripture is littered with these kinds of,
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with these kinds of. Well, again, so to go back to the sort of oral tradition nature.
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And I don't think God would permit a proactive immorality, even if he can't, for some reason,
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abolish the practice altogether. Well, I mean, the, well, no, that last point I don't see.
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So when you say even if he can't abolish the practice altogether, well –
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So the question is whether he can or whether he can't.
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If he can't abolish the practice, then the idea of wooing people away from a particular type of sin through a gradualistic process is known throughout societies across human history.
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I mean the gradualistic processes are the way that most things get done across human history.
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And by the way, the universal practice, unfortunately, up till today in many places in the world, is, in fact, the extreme version of what you're talking about.
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That sort of stuff, unfortunately, does take place.
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Yes, it takes place by your government, quoting scripture and acting upon it.
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Israel has been committing that act from the Bible that not only abolished slavery on its own
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shores but then abolished slavery literally everywhere else which is what Great Britain did
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that again to separate that off from a tradition that also says that every human being is made in
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the image of God right to the verse from Genesis or or that you have to treat the stranger well
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right which is repeated more than any injunction in the Bible right there are these these traditions
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that are that are at war with each other inside the Bible which is why there is this hotly fought
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kind of argument inside biblical circles about all this stuff which again is one of the reasons
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why i said right up top that when it gets to i can't just open the bible and interpret the text
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as i would see fit well i mean there you go guys you can clearly see he would rather his children
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be atheist than be radical muslim and then when it's got radicalization look at the scriptures
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that he's defending and he believes in and not only that they enacted on that and what's happened
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in gaza where else can it be said it just shows you misguidance the misguidance is so severe the
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hatred for islam is so severe they would rather their children be atheists than muslims who
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uphold abraham moses jesus and i believe if you were to ask this question to christians not all
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not all like people like no logic rotten wood fake christian money uh money man who put his
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wife in hijab after saying hijab is uh bad uh apos the pusillanimous weasel who cheated on his wife
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the adulterer yes uh i don't even know who he would even like that that that is zionist woman
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his handle that was given to him she must have cried that night oh no give me another project
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please not apos anyways so the claim is what you can see they would rather see a world in atheism
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than islam and this shows you how islam is the haq and it is the truth i would all day every day
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