Ali Dawah - March 12, 2019


ALI DAWAH CONFRONTS METRO NEWS - HIDDEN CAMERA


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Length

10 minutes

Words per minute

177.05948

Word count

1,804

Sentence count

81

Harmful content

Misogyny

1

sentences flagged

Toxicity

14

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Hate speech

4

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Summary

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In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the go to the Metro to find out if a dead baby is a jihadi baby. They speak to journalist Daniel Binz and ask him how a baby can become a terrorist.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Hello John.
00:00:02.000 Hi, is this where Metro is?
00:00:04.000 Yes.
00:00:05.000 Okay.
00:00:06.000 Do you have an appointment, sir?
00:00:07.000 No, I wanted to see if Daniel would lean on the counter.
00:00:09.000 That would help.
00:00:10.000 Thank you.
00:00:11.000 Why is it?
00:00:12.000 No, because it just looks bad.
00:00:13.000 So, we'd like to present ourselves properly.
00:00:15.000 Are you kidding me?
00:00:16.000 Yeah, I'm not kidding you.
00:00:17.000 I find that very bizarre.
00:00:18.000 But basically guys, I saw these headlines and I think,
00:00:20.000 Smile to General Brother Zeeshan sent me something as well,
00:00:22.000 one of his videos, if I'm not mistaken. 0.97
00:00:24.000 And I said to myself, this is actually really pathetic. 0.99
00:00:26.000 You know, forget pathetic, this is actually crazy. 0.99
00:00:29.000 It's not fair, it's crazy. 0.99
00:00:32.000 How are you calling a dead baby a jihadi baby?
00:00:36.000 This is absolutely mad.
00:00:38.000 So, I thought, you know what, let me go to their office.
00:00:40.000 I tried calling them.
00:00:41.000 I tried email.
00:00:42.000 I thought, you know what, let me go to their office, yeah?
00:00:46.000 And talk to this person, yeah?
00:00:48.000 Because I went on his Twitter, he doesn't seem like an Islamophobe.
00:00:50.000 So, why on earth would he say such a thing?
00:00:53.000 So, we're going to head there, you're going to see the footages now.
00:00:56.000 I had my camera inside the building as well.
00:00:59.000 We went there to speak to Daniel and ask him some questions of how a dead baby is a jihadi baby.
00:01:05.000 Do you even know what jihad means?
00:01:07.000 But anyways, we went there to ask some questions, yeah?
00:01:11.000 And it had to be done.
00:01:13.000 These things have to be done.
00:01:14.000 Because the more we brush it and think, oh, it's okay.
00:01:16.000 Believe me, things will escalate.
00:01:18.000 And they are escalating.
00:01:19.000 We need to put a stop to this.
00:01:21.000 If we don't, our children are going to suffer.
00:01:24.000 We're going to suffer.
00:01:25.000 Islamophobic attacks.
00:01:27.000 Islamophobia is on the rise. 0.97
00:01:29.000 And these cowards always attack sisters and elderly men. 0.98
00:01:33.000 You know, we get death threats ourselves. 0.97
00:01:35.000 So, let's put a stop to this.
00:01:37.000 We went there, let's see what happened.
00:01:39.000 So, brothers and sisters, we are going to Metro office, head office.
00:01:45.000 We came here about the Daily Mail thing about three, four years ago.
00:01:49.000 I think that's the same address.
00:01:50.000 So, we're going there.
00:01:51.000 We've emailed them.
00:01:52.000 Going to wait for a response.
00:01:53.000 We wanted to talk to Daniel Binz.
00:01:55.000 His name is Daniel Binz.
00:01:56.000 So, he's made this article, this report on the Metro, where he's titled the video, the article, Jihadi Baby.
00:02:08.000 Yeah?
00:02:09.000 So, I thought maybe he's quoting somebody.
00:02:11.000 Because it does say in the title that this other person said this.
00:02:15.000 But when I read it, he didn't say that.
00:02:17.000 So, he's labeled it Jihadi Baby.
00:02:20.000 So, we just want to find out how does a baby become a Jihadi. 0.63
00:02:22.000 And hold on a second.
00:02:23.000 Even, you can't have a baby Jihadi. 0.97
00:02:26.000 But the term Jihadi.
00:02:28.000 Yeah?
00:02:29.000 Do you even know what Jihadi is? 0.95
00:02:31.000 Do you even know what it is?
00:02:32.000 And in your context, it's a terrorist.
00:02:35.000 Yeah? 0.98
00:02:36.000 Now, this baby is a terrorist. 0.98
00:02:37.000 So, we're going to go and find out. 0.82
00:02:38.000 We're going to go to the Metro office and find out how does a baby become a Jihadi. 0.97
00:02:44.000 And why was you using it?
00:02:45.000 Are you trying to dehumanize babies now?
00:02:47.000 Now, Muslim adults. 0.76
00:02:48.000 Okay, yes. 1.00
00:02:49.000 You can attack and kill them. 1.00
00:02:50.000 It's okay. 1.00
00:02:51.000 For the babies as well.
00:02:52.000 Not even the babies.
00:02:53.000 Don't even have sympathy for the babies.
00:02:54.000 I've done a bit of research on him.
00:02:56.000 I'm just going to go and find out.
00:02:57.000 I want to speak to him.
00:02:58.000 Nothing aggressive.
00:02:59.000 I'm not Tony Robinson.
00:03:00.000 I'm not here to threaten people.
00:03:01.000 We're going to have a nice discussion if we can find him.
00:03:02.000 If not, we're going to ask some questions.
00:03:03.000 Because we can't turn a blind eye to these things.
00:03:05.000 If you turn a blind eye, it will get worse and worse and worse.
00:03:08.000 And then you will have like what happened in Nazi Germany.
00:03:11.000 The Nuremberg Roads where the Jews were dehumanized.
00:03:14.000 Let's find out.
00:03:21.000 Hello, Jim.
00:03:47.000 Hi.
00:03:48.000 Is this where Metro...
00:03:49.000 this is where metro is yes okay yeah have an appointment sir uh no i wanted to see daniel
00:03:53.560 bins i do uh well daniel he's a journalist for the metro yeah have you an appointment this is
00:03:59.240 no i tried to get in contact uh by email i tried to call them right but they didn't answer well
00:04:05.320 didn't answer the phone or didn't answer the email they didn't answer the phone and i emailed them
00:04:08.920 as well they didn't answer i tried to ask a question regarding an article that was published
00:04:12.920 about i think yesterday i think it was yesterday yeah right and what is the nature of the uh basically
00:04:18.120 um it's it's about the mother girl who's traveling to the bedroom yeah the baby that died yes yes
00:04:24.280 it's providing that okay so is there any problem well i'll tell you what the situation is uh nobody
00:04:29.560 comes down to see anybody without an appointment oh okay so and that's uh i'll tell you where that
00:04:34.920 comes from from uh charlie hudu in paris four or five years ago oh when they slaughtered uh 12 people
00:04:41.320 okay uh so ever since then we've taken all the signs down same for the daddy telegraph same for the
00:04:46.760 son all the other newspapers and they always they will have a rule now sorry they have a rule where
00:04:52.840 they don't see anybody yeah unless there's an appointment so what we can do now is give you
00:04:57.400 another number for you to ring for you to begin this process again okay because clearly they have
00:05:03.720 a telephone number they also have emails and uh they should be responding yeah so okay
00:05:10.120 i just wanted to ask him some questions regarding um you know this article that he's written where
00:05:35.480 it's talking about um jihadi baby so i just wanted to ask you how a baby becomes a jihadi
00:05:41.560 because i was very very curious how a baby and it's a baby that's died becomes a jihadi yeah okay i
00:05:47.960 don't know if you guys know do you guys know uh do you know they're not they wouldn't answer that
00:05:52.200 do you do you believe a baby can become a jihadi i'm so i'm very curious they wouldn't answer that
00:05:57.240 question do you believe that look it's uh we wouldn't be prepared to get into that conversation
00:06:02.200 yeah that's why i wanted that's conversation between you okay so let's get to the point now
00:06:09.240 because i don't want to be veering off now if you would not lean on the counter that would help
00:06:13.160 thank you no because it just looks bad so we like to present ourselves properly so are you kidding me
00:06:18.760 yeah i'm not kidding you i found it very bizarre okay well you're a guest here i can't leave it you're a
00:06:24.120 guest here no i just want you to behave the way we expect our guests to behave so just a minute
00:06:30.760 let's just focus on nothing you need what what you need well that maybe i find that very disrespectful
00:06:37.640 i find that very disrespectful yes now now listen my friends if you want cooperation i'm happy to give
00:06:45.880 it to you if you want cooperation that's fine this is nobly gentleman and there may be some reason for
00:06:51.400 that oh no god this is just arrogance that's what that is okay so don't i'm an arrogant please
00:06:56.360 thank you now let's just focus on what you need um at this moment of time i've literally done this
00:07:03.720 he's talking to me and i've done this i'm just like my my elbow is literally literally there
00:07:09.240 i'm listening then he has a go at me for having my elbow there okay i assume the best about the
00:07:14.440 Charlie Hebdo thing he meant i don't know why he had to bring that up here so my elbow was literally
00:07:18.440 like this i swear to god i'm not even like this i'm literally my elbow is down i'm listening to him
00:07:23.160 like okay i understand so so then i turn around and i see an elderly man he's got his hand like this
00:07:29.080 yeah he's got his hand like this yeah i said okay what about him yeah and he said it's elderly no
00:07:34.760 problem no problem valid point valid point elderly man no problem then i see him you can see on camera
00:07:39.640 after this you can see very clearly he's got his own hand on there anyways anyways this is i don't
00:07:46.680 want to be petty i don't want to be petty anyways yeah i just wanna let you guys know exactly where
00:07:50.760 my elbow was and that caused me to be an arrogant man do we have a contact number for the metro yeah
00:07:58.360 just give me the contact that's what i need for me
00:08:12.040 your elbow i caught i caught you
00:08:28.280 i can write to here if you want um instead of email sort of general email which they'll pick up which
00:08:35.480 daniel will be able to pick up they won't give you daniel's email only person that can give you that will be
00:08:39.800 daniel okay yeah so that's that give them a call and you may be able to get in touch with him at
00:08:45.480 some time later today yeah but it's a very busy day i'm sure you can imagine because we've got this
00:08:50.360 brexit vote this evening so most of our journalists are actually down at parliament waiting for the
00:08:54.920 results to come through this evening if you seem to ask that question yeah maybe every day but maybe not
00:09:00.120 today sorry about
00:09:13.800 so basically guys we went in it was quite interesting actually um went in uh to speak to daniel he
00:09:27.800 wasn't here and funnily enough uh maybe it was a valid reason maybe that he said that this charlie
00:09:33.960 hebdo attacks happened and therefore they can't have any journalists coming down i don't know if he said that
00:09:39.000 because of the way i look or it was a genuine concern but i'll assume the best uh so i went there
00:09:43.960 he said that if i can contact them so we're going to get in contact with daniel and ask him some
00:09:47.880 questions of how a baby becomes a jihadi a dead baby how a dead baby is a jihadi baby inshallah
00:09:54.520 and inshallah you can respond if not we will come and try to visit him again we've tweeted him on twitter
00:09:58.840 please do the same on twitter or wherever he is email him at the screen you can see here the
00:10:03.480 description box and ask him the question how does a baby become a jihadi