Ali Dawah - ALI DAWAH VS APUSSS - FULL ＂DEBATE＂

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00:00:17.660 Before I start, I want to praise Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala,

00:00:21.640 the most merciful, the most just, all praises, glory and gratitude belong to Him.

00:00:24.800 So we're going to start off now and want to make a few things clear.

00:00:28.500 So we're just on the same point, inshallah, is that firstly,

00:00:33.540 I'm not going to be muting because that would be unfair.

00:00:38.040 If I'm not mistaken, you can correct me that he did this kind of with Daniel Hakika Chu.

00:00:43.540 He might have his reasons, whatever, but I'm not going to mute.

00:00:46.600 We're going to listen to him as well, inshallah.

00:00:48.780 One thing that's really clear, I just want to make clear as well,

00:00:51.020 is that this is not a debate because my debate challenge with APOS was

00:00:56.280 that it's going to be face to face.

00:00:57.740 That's the condition that I've set.

00:00:59.660 We'll come to that later of why that didn't happen, etc.

00:01:02.140 We'll come to that later.

00:01:02.860 That's a whole different topic.

00:01:04.300 This is a challenge of a mubahala, which is an open curse.

00:01:08.780 So because this is exactly the thing that I challenged APOS to,

00:01:13.820 he agreed on, we're going to start off with that.

00:01:17.040 That is my opening statement, if you want to say.

00:01:20.200 I'm going to pass it on to APOS.

00:01:21.720 I'm not going to interrupt him.

00:01:23.220 If there's anything that he would like to say before we start the mubahala,

00:01:26.680 he can talk, listen to you.

00:01:30.680 Sure, sure.

00:01:31.960 So I want to say, first off, I explained to everybody here already

00:01:35.220 what we were supposed to do initially was to have a debate.

00:01:38.460 I agreed to an online debate.

00:01:42.040 Ali Dawah insisted on a face-to-face debate,

00:01:44.320 insisted that we do it in America,

00:01:45.980 then said for some reason that he cannot come to America

00:01:48.240 because he can't take the vaccine and he's against vaccines and all that.

00:01:51.920 So we are supposed to have this little curse fest today

00:01:55.880 because apparently I actually know that Islam is true and I'm a liar

00:02:00.180 and we are supposed to expose that today, which I find very funny.

00:02:04.840 Now, I made a few conditions to Ali Dawah before I agreed to do this.

00:02:08.300 First off, I said I agreed to do a curse during our talks

00:02:13.640 only under the condition that you also agree to the debate conditions.

00:02:17.540 That's what we originally said.

00:02:19.080 So he would come to America, we would have a debate on Islam

00:02:22.460 and I would then also engage with him in this little curse fest.

00:02:26.300 Now, that didn't happen, but I still made a compromise and still said,

00:02:29.380 hey, you know what, I'm okay with it.

00:02:30.820 I will do the whole childish curse thing

00:02:34.420 where we ask the imaginary guy for curses and all that.

00:02:38.760 But I also said as a condition, since I make a compromise,

00:02:42.320 I have three conditions and one of them is that I ask you five questions

00:02:46.160 and you must answer them directly.

00:02:48.780 That is what I said.

00:02:50.200 So I would like to do that before we go on with the curse.

00:02:54.360 But first off, I want to ask Ali Dawah a very simple question.

00:02:58.320 Just because I'm curious, this is not part of the questions.

00:03:01.680 I'm just curious and I'm sure everybody else is also curious

00:03:03.720 who is not familiar with Islamic culture and all the childish nonsense

00:03:07.600 and superstition surrounding Islam.

00:03:09.880 What exactly does Ali Dawah expect from this little curse fest?

00:03:15.100 What exactly does he think will happen?

00:03:17.460 What exactly will that prove to him?

00:03:20.820 What does he think the outcome of this will be?

00:03:23.300 Can I talk?

00:03:26.040 Sure, yeah.

00:03:26.660 Okay, good.

00:03:27.640 Okay, so like I said before, we're going to come to why the debate didn't happen

00:03:31.960 after the curse.

00:03:33.960 Now, let's make something very clear.

00:03:37.140 Alhamdulillah, every chapter of the Qur'an starts with Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem.

00:03:42.380 Do you know that, Apus?

00:03:46.080 No, it doesn't.

00:03:47.640 Yes, except which chapter?

00:03:49.700 Except chapter 9, which is Tawbah.

00:03:51.740 Surah Tawbah, good.

00:03:52.820 Yeah.

00:03:53.300 So, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala talks about mercy.

00:03:55.120 Are you trying to test my knowledge here?

00:03:56.260 No, we have to, of course.

00:03:57.880 That's a different issue.

00:03:58.740 We're going to come.

00:03:59.460 So, every single chapter of the Qur'an starts with

00:04:02.080 Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem, except Surah Tawbah.

00:04:05.960 So, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala talks about Allah's mercy

00:04:08.140 and talks about many ways, etc., turning back to Him, etc.

00:04:12.120 So, when somebody persists on disbelief,

00:04:15.420 now disbelief, there are disbelievers who Allah talks in Surah Mumtahina,

00:04:19.460 those who do not fight you and kick you out of your households,

00:04:21.740 Allah does not forbid you from being kind and just to them.

00:04:24.340 So, a disbeliever, you do not put them into the category of,

00:04:27.520 general category.

00:04:28.640 There are those who do not fight you

00:04:30.300 and want to kick you out of your houses, etc., yeah?

00:04:33.260 So, therefore, when you tell somebody that you are lying,

00:04:38.720 when somebody has done, Fareed has done 50 videos

00:04:40.900 and you ignore them.

00:04:42.060 So, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says,

00:04:43.140 okay, if you, after evidence is brought forth,

00:04:46.080 you persist on disbelieving,

00:04:48.280 then it's very simple.

00:04:49.140 We are so certain and sure of our religion,

00:04:52.100 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says,

00:04:53.560 in Surah Al-Imran,

00:04:55.040 verse 61,

00:04:56.460 that you bring your children,

00:04:58.060 we bring our children,

00:04:58.820 you bring your family,

00:04:59.620 we bring our family,

00:05:00.640 and we do an open curse.

00:05:02.640 Now, the reason we're doing this is because,

00:05:04.920 from my perspective, just to clarify,

00:05:06.840 is because Islamophobia,

00:05:08.540 when somebody is an Islamophobe,

00:05:10.180 yeah,

00:05:10.480 like, for example,

00:05:11.200 you have ISIS.

00:05:12.460 ISIS, when they come and speak

00:05:14.640 and say certain things,

00:05:16.200 therefore, soldiers take action

00:05:17.560 and kill innocent non-Muslims on the road.

00:05:19.640 And the same thing happens

00:05:20.440 with the Islamophobia industry.

00:05:21.580 When they utter certain things

00:05:22.920 and you have individuals

00:05:24.280 like the one who carried out

00:05:25.180 the New Zealand Christchurch attack,

00:05:26.880 you have people who take matters

00:05:28.660 into their own hands

00:05:29.400 and see Islam and the Muslims

00:05:30.980 as their enemies

00:05:31.660 and take the matters in their own hands

00:05:33.280 by massacring 51 people.

00:05:36.420 So therefore,

00:05:37.320 when somebody like Apus,

00:05:38.620 who has done videos

00:05:39.440 where his following is like this,

00:05:41.860 you know,

00:05:42.340 general people as well,

00:05:43.240 but also those who have a anti-hate,

00:05:45.880 they have a hate towards Islam,

00:05:47.700 they take the matters in their own hands.

00:05:50.160 My wife,

00:05:50.760 when she's walking down the road,

00:05:51.800 when her hijab is ripped off,

00:05:53.420 when I am walking down the road

00:05:54.780 with a beard or a foe

00:05:55.660 and somebody tries to run me over,

00:05:57.920 and I'm not saying this happened to me,

00:05:58.860 I'm saying these things that follow,

00:06:00.640 this is a person who is outright,

00:06:03.380 directly or indirectly,

00:06:04.600 calling for the dehumanization of Muslims,

00:06:07.840 especially somebody like Apus,

00:06:09.820 who has done a video

00:06:10.620 mocking the death of pilgrims,

00:06:13.820 pilgrims who have no weapons.

00:06:15.620 In the treaty of Hudaybiyah,

00:06:16.620 when they were going to Mecca,

00:06:18.220 they had no arms.

00:06:20.280 Innocent individuals

00:06:21.120 who are going to do pilgrimage

00:06:22.420 and this individual here,

00:06:25.240 Apus,

00:06:26.060 mocks the death of these individuals.

00:06:28.300 You have dehumanized Muslims

00:06:29.720 to a certain level

00:06:30.540 where individuals who watch your video,

00:06:32.720 I believe the individual

00:06:33.720 who carried out the Christchurch attack,

00:06:35.320 if he was to watch your video,

00:06:36.800 would he say,

00:06:37.560 hmm,

00:06:38.200 I changed my mind about Muslims

00:06:39.660 or hmm,

00:06:40.840 I think I should carry extra bullets.

00:06:42.760 That is the reason

00:06:43.680 why I'm doing the open curse

00:06:45.300 because you are an individual

00:06:46.620 who I believe indirectly

00:06:48.080 have caused the life

00:06:49.580 of innocent Muslims.

00:06:50.720 I'm not saying directly,

00:06:51.420 you do not go and say,

00:06:52.380 go out and kill Muslims.

00:06:53.580 So that is the reason

00:06:54.440 why we're doing the curse.

00:06:56.520 Just to clarify.

00:06:57.540 Does that make sense?

00:06:58.880 Sure, sure.

00:06:59.540 Thank you for the preaching session.

00:07:01.260 It's okay.

00:07:01.780 I just want to ask you...

00:07:03.000 Are you okay?

00:07:03.480 No, I want to ask you

00:07:05.160 something in return to that

00:07:08.760 just so I can give a response

00:07:10.300 to that as well.

00:07:11.680 I don't know what you're going to say,

00:07:12.340 but...

00:07:12.620 I'm sure you have watched

00:07:14.000 many of my videos.

00:07:16.260 You've posted about me

00:07:17.280 for weeks now

00:07:18.080 where you post about

00:07:19.700 all the stuff

00:07:20.380 that I talk about in my videos.

00:07:21.840 Are you aware

00:07:22.380 that I posted many videos

00:07:24.160 including one that is dedicated

00:07:25.680 in which I explain

00:07:27.600 that I do not hate Muslims,

00:07:29.080 that I find it wrong

00:07:29.700 to hate Muslims

00:07:30.480 and that I condemn

00:07:31.900 violence and discrimination

00:07:33.840 against people.

00:07:34.980 Are you aware of that?

00:07:36.700 Can I answer?

00:07:37.900 Sure.

00:07:38.440 Yeah, I'm just asking

00:07:39.120 so I don't want...

00:07:39.860 Oh, you cut me off.

00:07:41.460 And it's the interview.

00:07:43.160 So,

00:07:43.800 I confronted many people.

00:07:45.760 I'm not someone

00:07:46.200 that's in my bedroom.

00:07:47.040 I don't stay in my bedroom

00:07:47.740 like a keyboard warrior.

00:07:49.220 Let me just answer my question.

00:07:50.280 That's the one issue

00:07:50.840 that I had with you.

00:07:51.880 You're in your little bedroom

00:07:52.800 face to face

00:07:53.720 because Tommy Robinson,

00:07:54.980 Britain first,

00:07:55.680 Paul Golding,

00:07:56.480 Avi Yemeni,

00:07:57.600 Lauren Southern,

00:07:58.460 the list goes on.

00:07:59.200 I can't face to face.

00:08:00.400 Yeah?

00:08:00.660 I don't sit in my bedroom

00:08:01.640 and look like Tommy Robinson.

00:08:02.720 Yeah?

00:08:03.120 These individuals say the same thing.

00:08:04.400 You know what they say to me?

00:08:05.400 Ali,

00:08:06.100 I've got an issue with Islam.

00:08:07.240 I haven't got an issue

00:08:07.640 with the Muslims.

00:08:08.600 When I'm like,

00:08:09.100 hold on a second, mate.

00:08:10.500 Andrus Brevik,

00:08:11.300 who carried out

00:08:12.340 another massacre.

00:08:13.900 Yeah?

00:08:14.880 I think it was Sweden

00:08:15.960 if I'm not mistaken.

00:08:16.640 Yeah?

00:08:17.040 In that country,

00:08:17.980 in his manifesto,

00:08:19.080 if I'm not mistaken,

00:08:19.720 he also mentioned

00:08:20.620 Ayan Hirsi.

00:08:22.160 Yeah?

00:08:22.440 And if I'm not mistaken,

00:08:23.400 Tommy Robinson was also mentioned

00:08:24.420 along those lines.

00:08:25.560 When these people,

00:08:26.440 and also my,

00:08:27.680 I want to say my local mosque

00:08:28.740 in Finsbury Park,

00:08:29.820 where my in-laws stay,

00:08:31.220 my in-laws,

00:08:32.460 a man drove a van

00:08:33.700 into Muslims.

00:08:35.300 Yeah?

00:08:35.860 This man was inspired

00:08:36.820 by Tommy Robinson.

00:08:37.480 Now you go to Tommy Robinson,

00:08:38.540 which is now

00:08:39.140 classed as one of

00:08:40.440 20 terrorists in the UK.

00:08:41.940 By name,

00:08:42.420 it's been officially announced

00:08:43.140 by the police

00:08:43.860 terror unit.

00:08:45.640 He says the same thing.

00:08:46.620 He says,

00:08:46.960 look, man,

00:08:47.280 I always say Muslims

00:08:48.320 are my friends.

00:08:49.160 I joke with Muslims.

00:08:50.380 This, that, that.

00:08:51.220 Man,

00:08:51.420 you are the same scumbag

00:08:52.860 when I confronted you.

00:08:54.380 You couldn't even bring

00:08:54.980 one verse.

00:08:55.600 This Tommy Robinson,

00:08:56.180 by the way.

00:08:56.800 Yeah?

00:08:57.320 So, I say the same thing

00:08:58.700 and he says exactly

00:08:59.440 what you said.

00:09:00.380 Ali, I do videos.

00:09:01.560 I clarify.

00:09:02.480 I'm not a hate preacher.

00:09:03.880 But that guy driving

00:09:04.740 the van didn't say,

00:09:06.000 Tommy was telling me

00:09:07.240 Muslims.

00:09:07.740 Okay, he went directly

00:09:09.400 to kill innocent people

00:09:10.440 and one person died.

00:09:11.960 So, you have blood

00:09:13.180 on your hands

00:09:13.880 indirectly or directly.

00:09:16.560 Can you answer the question?

00:09:18.260 Well, that's a good question.

00:09:19.580 Can you answer the question?

00:09:21.340 You never answered the question.

00:09:22.260 I did.

00:09:22.640 I did.

00:09:23.200 No, are you aware

00:09:24.120 that I made such videos

00:09:24.960 and that I said such things

00:09:25.840 very often?

00:09:26.040 I just repeated

00:09:26.940 and I said I'm aware.

00:09:28.280 I'm completely against

00:09:28.300 hating Muslims.

00:09:29.020 Okay, okay, good.

00:09:29.800 Yes, I'm aware,

00:09:30.640 but I'm saying

00:09:31.020 that doesn't justify it

00:09:31.880 because Tommy Robinson

00:09:32.600 who's a hate preacher

00:09:33.320 who's a terrorist now,

00:09:34.420 labelled as a terrorist.

00:09:35.080 I understand.

00:09:35.360 Do you know

00:09:38.300 if I ever made a video

00:09:39.620 or if I ever said

00:09:41.260 that it is justifiable

00:09:42.540 or okay

00:09:43.260 to kill or punish

00:09:45.900 Muslims

00:09:46.720 or people who convert

00:09:47.660 to Islam?

00:09:49.260 Categorically,

00:09:49.860 you have not ever said

00:09:51.160 in any video

00:09:52.180 that you should go out

00:09:53.660 and hunt

00:09:54.160 or kill Muslims.

00:09:55.460 But again,

00:09:56.400 the problem,

00:09:56.920 if you allow me

00:09:57.300 to just elaborate,

00:09:58.400 a problem arises again.

00:09:59.500 That was not the question though.

00:10:01.040 My question was

00:10:01.720 did I ever say anywhere

00:10:03.160 that it is okay

00:10:04.800 or acceptable

00:10:05.540 or good

00:10:06.420 to kill

00:10:07.740 or to hurt

00:10:08.780 or to harm Muslims

00:10:09.860 or people who convert to Islam?

00:10:11.480 Yes, you didn't answer the question.

00:10:12.680 Okay, can you hear me?

00:10:13.960 Yes, I can.

00:10:15.360 Then how could you say

00:10:15.960 I didn't answer it?

00:10:16.520 I just answered it.

00:10:17.380 Because you said

00:10:17.880 hunt and this and that.

00:10:20.040 Oh no, no.

00:10:20.860 I said

00:10:21.180 I'm testing the mic

00:10:22.260 because I said

00:10:23.500 you did not ever say that.

00:10:26.380 Okay, sure.

00:10:27.020 Okay, now can I ask you

00:10:29.880 two more questions?

00:10:30.960 No, you can't ask me

00:10:31.480 no questions.

00:10:32.680 You're going somewhere else.

00:10:34.020 We made it clear

00:10:34.560 why we're doing this.

00:10:35.260 I'm responding to you.

00:10:37.340 I'm responding to the thing.

00:10:38.740 Did you or did you not

00:10:39.860 make a video

00:10:40.340 in which you said

00:10:41.180 that people who leave Islam

00:10:45.020 should be executed?

00:10:46.840 We're going to come to that.

00:10:47.640 Look, I'm telling you

00:10:48.380 you know what?

00:10:49.200 I would come to that.

00:10:50.120 What I'm saying now

00:10:50.760 is we have to do the Mubahala.

00:10:52.100 I have very categorically

00:10:53.300 and clearly said

00:10:54.240 that Islam has a law

00:10:56.160 and legislation

00:10:57.080 that applies capital punishment

00:10:58.760 for people like you.

00:11:00.200 But guess what?

00:11:00.600 I've got a present for you.

00:11:01.680 A present for you

00:11:02.240 you're going to love.

00:11:02.680 But we're going to come to that.

00:11:03.640 We're going to come to that.

00:11:04.200 Then let me quickly respond

00:11:05.520 to your preaching

00:11:06.060 because I didn't talk

00:11:07.160 as long as you did.

00:11:08.820 Okay, let me quickly respond

00:11:09.600 to your preaching.

00:11:10.140 So you preached lengthily

00:11:11.940 and said that people like me

00:11:13.320 because we talk about Islam

00:11:14.800 are somehow to be blamed

00:11:16.260 for indirect or direct violence

00:11:17.860 against Muslims.

00:11:20.420 But as it stands

00:11:21.900 I explicitly always oppose

00:11:24.600 hating and harm and violence

00:11:26.040 and I have never advocated for it.

00:11:28.200 On the other hand

00:11:28.700 Ali Dawah has never ever

00:11:30.440 made such a categorical

00:11:32.040 opposition or condemnation

00:11:34.180 of violence against people

00:11:35.640 for their beliefs and ideas

00:11:36.580 and all that.

00:11:37.320 On top of that

00:11:37.900 he did make a video

00:11:39.020 in which he explicitly

00:11:40.040 said that people like me

00:11:41.600 who leave their religion

00:11:42.500 should be executed

00:11:43.400 and that he's proud of that.

00:11:44.840 But I am the one

00:11:45.860 who is indirectly

00:11:46.860 responsible for

00:11:48.600 taking people's lives.

00:11:50.320 Okay, can I speak?

00:11:51.840 Can I speak?

00:11:52.560 Go ahead.

00:11:53.780 You're going to make me cry there.

00:11:54.840 I'll be honest.

00:11:55.320 I watched Titanic

00:11:55.940 but it wasn't that emotional

00:11:57.560 as what you just said there.

00:11:58.580 I'm going to start crying.

00:11:59.860 Can you pass me a tissue please?

00:12:01.540 I need a tissue right now.

00:12:02.420 You get that.

00:12:02.960 Okay.

00:12:03.020 So let's just get this right guys.

00:12:04.300 Yeah, a dramatic

00:12:04.800 Ali Dawah.

00:12:06.440 Please.

00:12:07.540 Do you see me crying?

00:12:08.600 Do you see me sad?

00:12:09.840 Anyways, anyways, anyways.

00:12:10.860 I'm pointing out your hypocrisy here.

00:12:11.720 Anyways, look.

00:12:12.420 I'll listen to you.

00:12:13.320 That's my turn.

00:12:14.040 Yeah.

00:12:14.780 Now, we're going to go

00:12:15.900 to the Mubahala.

00:12:16.760 This question that you asked

00:12:18.060 remind me.

00:12:19.820 We're going to come to it.

00:12:20.420 It's just I don't want to divert off.

00:12:21.660 What you said,

00:12:22.420 I'm going to make that

00:12:22.940 categorically clear

00:12:23.840 but I know you're diverting

00:12:25.260 so I need to get you

00:12:26.340 back on track.

00:12:27.620 Yeah?

00:12:27.960 Now, let's start off

00:12:29.180 with the Mubahala

00:12:29.740 and then we can slowly

00:12:32.000 go on to

00:12:32.760 Ali wants me

00:12:33.640 this, that

00:12:34.360 and all this kind of

00:12:35.200 horror movies.

00:12:36.120 Yeah?

00:12:36.260 You're probably watching

00:12:36.880 Paranormal Activity.

00:12:38.120 Yeah?

00:12:38.500 Okay.

00:12:39.100 So, and before we do that

00:12:40.640 I'll make a very

00:12:41.120 categorically clear.

00:12:42.100 I've been watching you

00:12:42.820 who says a postage

00:12:43.640 should be killed.

00:12:44.800 Innocent individuals

00:12:45.520 to be killed

00:12:46.160 be they a mortad

00:12:47.340 or not a mortad.

00:12:48.800 Category.

00:12:49.680 But we'll come to it.

00:12:50.260 We'll come to it.

00:12:51.140 That's just my statement.

00:12:52.380 Can you quickly say that?

00:12:53.000 Am I innocent according to you?

00:12:54.100 We'll come to that.

00:12:55.180 We're going to come to that.

00:12:56.060 It's a very quick answer.

00:12:57.080 Just say one word.

00:12:57.680 Am I innocent according to you?

00:12:58.720 We're going to come to that.

00:12:59.560 I've given you my word.

00:13:00.540 I promise you

00:13:01.440 we're going to come to that.

00:13:03.080 Just give me one answer.

00:13:04.180 Just give me one answer.

00:13:05.020 Am I innocent according to you?

00:13:06.380 Let's start the Mubahala.

00:13:06.640 Can you just give me

00:13:07.200 just one word?

00:13:08.400 I'm not giving you nothing.

00:13:09.640 Just one word.

00:13:10.340 am i innocent according to you no we know no so when you say innocent that doesn't mean anything

00:13:15.380 because i'm not innocent let me know when you're ready well i have to ask you the five questions

00:13:20.340 so do you agree again i can already show you i understand i understand i understand what i'm

00:13:26.340 saying is what i'm saying is okay i want to remind you naughty naughty do you agree once more that

00:13:32.180 you will answer five questions that i will ask you let me know when you're ready fine i have

00:13:36.900 the screenshot of you accepting the conditions anyway i'm ready okay good i'm okay thank you

00:13:41.380 thank you so now we're doing the curse fest everybody it's gonna be party time yeah okay so

00:13:50.180 this is in you're invoking it's a doah you can put your hands up or you can however you would like to

00:13:55.940 do it invoke the curse of god or you're close to the christian christian apology apology apologist now

00:14:02.900 or you can ask the father the son and the holy spirit it's up to you yeah maybe you get your

00:14:06.180 donations that go a bit up yeah well i'll ask allah yeah whoever if you want you can ask the

00:14:10.500 trinity the god of trinity because you're close to the christians yeah david will be happy i will

00:14:13.860 ask the arabian god of the car no problem okay so this time is yours i'm going to give you however

00:14:18.260 you like it's 31 let me just get one second one second okay you got it's 8 31 um you can go

00:14:26.660 and you have your time oh do you want me to go ahead right now with the pleasure

00:14:32.500 sure um since it has not been exactly how it should be done uh i will uh i would like to ask

00:14:40.260 uh allah the almost supposedly almighty god for um a curse that will be very specific i don't think

00:14:46.580 it's too much to ask he is almighty he can do whatever he wants uh let's do this so dear allah

00:14:54.660 who is the arabian god can you do this can you do this no i i can do this how about that how about

00:15:00.340 that like this okay this is how i pray to allah well you can pray however however you want anyways

00:15:06.020 like this yeah it doesn't wow he doesn't he's an ex-muslim and he prayed like this yeah no i pray like

00:15:09.940 this allah arabian god of the kaaba who took over the place of the polytheists and who sent his prophet

00:15:19.860 mopus dear allah i ask you if you are real and if islam is true and if i am lying about islam if i am

00:15:29.220 lying about islam if i am wrong deliberately then please right now take my life within the next 10

00:15:38.260 seconds within the next 10 seconds okay now that's good now guys did i stop you and did i that button

00:15:47.380 okay okay wait for 10 seconds okay let's wait 10 seconds are over no no i think there was two

00:15:52.980 more seconds there one second why does allah what guys check this out okay can i speak i i'm pretty

00:15:57.860 sure allah will be okay with this he doesn't have to he doesn't have to wait for us to finish okay

00:16:01.940 okay um everybody you're seeing this right you see the results i'm not dead i'm alive just let me know

00:16:09.060 when you finish i don't need to watch you let me know when you finish sure sure go ahead go ahead okay

00:16:12.260 all right good yeah sure now guys this is how he fell in my trap i got a surprise for you what is it

00:16:19.300 okay now this is where you're going to get a bit nervous you're going to need that drink

00:16:22.820 make sure you don't drink it because you're going to end up choking on it now just get to the point

00:16:28.180 do you not claim you're an ex-muslim yes do you not claim that you know about the mubahala

00:16:34.180 one second right i know where this is going okay let's not claim that you know everything about

00:16:39.140 islam do you not claim that you was a practicing muslim yes let's give that another tick we've got

00:16:45.940 two ticks so far not bad okay do you not claim you know more than 90 of the muslims yeah i'm not sure

00:16:53.780 about 90 it might be 95 but sure around making 99 yeah how about that i wouldn't say 99 no okay 95 is

00:17:02.500 okay i'm happy with that i'll be i'll be okay the higher it goes better for me so you said you are

00:17:07.460 more you know more about islam than 95 of muslims yeah yeah okay yeah maybe sure okay let's give that

00:17:13.700 another check now we got 1995 i don't know i have to think about this but sure yeah 99 now three ticks

00:17:18.420 are better than zero ticks now sure that's the next muslim who is practicing who knows more than 95

00:17:25.940 percent of the muslims wouldn't he know you guys ready wouldn't he know that mubahala cannot be done

00:17:36.580 with an atheist oh really yes because why oh one second one second do you not know a mubahala is ibadah

00:17:47.700 i mean sorry do you not know it's it is a dua yeah sure okay because because muhammad himself

00:17:54.580 offered it to people who believe in god instead we believe we pray to our to our god what is a dua

00:17:59.940 what is a dua you ask god right no what is the dua what is a dua what did what do we want to say

00:18:06.260 tell me tell me you don't know these stuff these issues just tell me just get to the point it's

00:18:11.460 ex-muslim more than 95 he doesn't know dua dua is what dua is ibadah okay i even gave it away

00:18:17.380 the accident speak english worship one second i'm going to say the dua invocation it's a form of

00:18:22.420 worship worship oh really i i never knew that asking the supernatural being for something is worship

00:18:29.060 who would have known that you can't do look look Allah talks about it in the quran is with the

00:18:35.460 christians and there's another verse which talks about the mushrikeen

00:18:39.060 you came here and you went with it like yeah i will do it no problem and now all along i was like

00:18:45.140 oh my gosh i'm waiting for this guy to come and say ali i'm an ex-muslim who used to be practicing

00:18:50.100 you can't do mubahala with an atheist who doesn't believe in forget being a muslim logically how are

00:18:55.140 you calling up to hello uh who's anybody who are you calling out to this is why i'm telling you're

00:19:01.620 absolute ignorant you're a five-star grade a ignoramus fool straight up now that is done

00:19:09.060 and we that was that was i couldn't believe i was expecting you to come and say ali you can't do

00:19:14.260 a mubahala and you know what you did you don't even know the word mubahala you just went and

00:19:17.380 searched it up anyways this is done this shows again it's the 17 year old boy after that girl

00:19:23.060 slapped you up the 17 year old boy absolutely humiliated you now again again april your track

00:19:28.020 record is crazy it's crazy you've been smashed up by everyone but anyways that shows how ignorant you

00:19:34.020 you don't even know what dua is and let alone you know mubahala cannot be done with an atheist are you

00:19:40.180 that jahil are you done are you done of course i'm done i'm done with you okay fine everybody everybody

00:19:47.940 everybody everybody do you see do you see the stupidity here that's going on a muslim comes out

00:19:55.940 and challenges me and challenges me to a mubahala a a a an invocation uh to allah to curse us uh under

00:20:05.620 the implication implication that i am a liar and that i know that islam is true which is why he challenges

00:20:11.460 me to ask allah to to curse me so he challenges me to i accept it i say fine okay let's see if i am

00:20:19.300 indeed a liar or not and then he's like ha ha ha ha see you are so ignorant you actually accepted my

00:20:24.580 challenge exactly exactly thank you i mean you ask me as somebody who is an alleged liar who actually

00:20:32.020 knows that islam is true to speak to allah and ask for his curses and i accept it despite knowing that

00:20:39.380 i don't believe in the supernatural and that i that i cannot engage in worship just to show to you how

00:20:44.420 idiotic it is to ask me to did you know ask allah for a curse and then he says that i am the ignorant

00:20:52.580 one yes did you know this is what we are dealing with this is the intellect that you know i shouldn't

00:20:58.100 challenge you to a debate i should challenge you to an iq test yeah i know i know after a 17 year old

00:21:02.100 guy we know we should debate you this is this is the embarrassing cringe-worthy quality of muslim

00:21:07.460 apologetics absolutely look any muslims that's watching this they know exactly what happened

00:21:13.300 i'm done with that we'll move into the next one yeah i'm done with that you said that you know

00:21:17.140 now can you come to your own part you said that you know okay this is my party you're ready for it

00:21:20.980 baba we're gonna do the after party in a minute yeah so did you did you say you know that you

00:21:25.860 can't do it with anything did you say you know that i know that i cannot ask allah for something

00:21:31.460 technically i just can't pretend okay what do you think what do you think okay did you say you know

00:21:36.100 that you could have not done it but you just done it is that what you said i know that i cannot i know

00:21:39.940 that a mubah is a communication to god i cannot do a dua either i cannot do a worship

00:21:45.620 either it is of course it is of god yeah communication yeah what is that if if i ask

00:21:51.220 allah doesn't that mean i'm trying to communicate to god in the quran about the caller that calls

00:21:55.220 upon me i respond to him yeah so don't get that twisted and what is that and what is that communication

00:22:00.740 not my friend communication open it open a dictionary dude what i'm saying is this did you

00:22:04.900 say you know that you couldn't yeah sure okay where's the evidence you said you know oh what's

00:22:11.380 the evidence i don't know i have to go i have to go into my uh into my brain and i need to go into

00:22:17.220 my brain and pick out the pick out the knowledge that i knew i can't do that which is which is why

00:22:22.660 i have to bring it out is this is this your logic is this your point is this how you're supposed to

00:22:27.380 argue in a debate what is this what you're going to going to do in a debate as well if you know how

00:22:31.780 ridiculous you look right now if you don't have a brain where do you go where do i where would i go

00:22:37.220 i don't know probably uh go uh back in time and search the invisible world for evidence that i

00:22:44.420 actually knew that i cannot do this just to prove to alida how how he was right or how he was wrong

00:22:51.380 you know what this tastes better in real life when watching a video how stupid you are but in real

00:22:55.860 life you know when it's like you know when you see something on tv but then you experience yourself

00:22:59.300 it's like damn like when i'm watching you i'm like bloody hell do you do you actually do you

00:23:04.100 actually think you have made a fantastic point and that you like that that you look like the smart

00:23:08.580 one here anyway do you think that do you think you made a fantastic point today that fantastic is

00:23:13.620 not the word it's is another word okay do you think you made a brilliant point today

00:23:20.740 delectable amazing come on oh you did you did everybody ali dawa today made a fantastic point

00:23:28.580 he asked me he challenged me to ask allah to curse me and i accepted it just to show to him how

00:23:34.820 ridiculous it is that an atheist like me asks allah for a curse yes and he says that that just exposes

00:23:41.140 how i and how ignorant you are you don't need to be a muslim as an atheist you could say to yourself

00:23:46.180 logically i don't believe in a god how can i go and ask for the curse of something i don't believe

00:23:49.540 you don't need to be a muslim but a little child you're not a 17 year old boy who smashed slapped

00:23:53.380 you up yeah go to them they will say you brother you know you don't you believe in god no i mean

00:23:57.540 how are you going on a platform to ask to invoke the curse of god yeah exactly that's exactly that's

00:24:02.100 the point that's why i'm saying how how childish and idiotic in fact in fact look i have been live

00:24:07.300 streaming this before we before we met and during that live stream i told my own audience how stupid

00:24:13.220 it is of you to ask me to do this challenge go back in our stream right now and you will see me

00:24:18.820 say that people people only see how idiotic this is hello it's stupid but i'm gonna do it anyways

00:24:25.380 i don't yeah to show how i don't believe it but i'm gonna do it anyways i was an ex-muslim

00:24:30.980 anyways do you know why i'm dressed up like this do you think i'm going to a wedding because

00:24:34.980 isn't that how you dress up all the time because you want to look i'm going i'm going to overcompensate

00:24:39.300 for yeah i'm going to your funeral that's why i'm just oh oh oh i'm dead i'm dead he killed me

00:24:47.220 he killed me with his brilliant words and his amazing vocabulary and his wonderful voice i love

00:24:52.740 don't we all love the voice don't we all love to hear al dawa don't we all love to hear him and we

00:24:58.660 are so proud of that aren't we okay let's do some quran yeah do you do some quran

00:25:03.860 can you come to your can you come to your dua part you said it might be a placebo effect like you

00:25:08.820 said it was working but it was a placebo effect it was working but it was a placebo effect yeah

00:25:13.620 okay you're proud of okay can you do you can you do your dua now now now now now now no i don't need

00:25:18.420 to there's you can't do it you don't understand that's stupid you cannot do it you're an atheist

00:25:22.660 you can do it dumbass you can do it you can't you can't two people have to do it you are not

00:25:28.500 qualified okay fine fine yes okay i did it i did it anyway i did it anyway exactly now you do it

00:25:35.060 since you challenged me to something now you should do it come on do it listen listen come

00:25:38.820 and let me stop you come and let me stop you do it come on come and let me stop you stop trying to

00:25:43.380 be muhammad hijab come on do it come on what kind of pusillanimity stability instability is this

00:25:52.660 can you ask allah to uh curse you if you are a liar you know what i'll do you know what i'll do

00:25:58.580 yeah i'll make a dua oh allah this man either guide him to islam or deal with him the way you deal

00:26:07.060 with him or silence him the way you befit i personally would want allah to deal with you but

00:26:14.420 oh allah there's enemies of islam who have come to he's come back to islam or accepted islam

00:26:20.020 guide him if he is not deserving of guidance or blames blames you uh um allah knew uh got

00:26:26.900 slapped by that girl allah guide him to islam or deal with him i mean that's all i can say

00:26:32.260 guys i have to tell you i have to give you a secret now i doubt what keeps referring i doubt what keeps

00:26:36.660 referring to a girl a few days ago who called me as a girl although privately he admitted to me that he

00:26:44.740 knows it's not a girl it's actually a guy but he keeps referring to her to him as a girl yes just

00:26:50.100 so he can make a point he's deliberately lying and i can demonstrate that on this question yeah

00:26:55.540 what happened there boy or girl it sounded like a girl to me boy or girl did you get did you haven't

00:27:02.100 no haven't your own people haven't your own people told you that this is 150 000 views 150 000 views

00:27:08.580 okay okay can i ask you something do you know do you know that that is some that that's that's

00:27:16.100 actually a guy have you been told that we're talking about well do you know that we're talking

00:27:19.620 about do you know it's actually a guy you know why you're nervous your anxiety do you know it's

00:27:23.140 actually a guy or i don't know if it's a girl or boy yeah okay do you know it's actually a guy

00:27:28.020 how do you know how do you know they're a girl how do you know i'm asking you do you know how do

00:27:32.660 How do you know the pronouns?

00:27:33.840 Do you know that it's actually a guy?

00:27:35.740 How do you know?

00:27:36.800 Do you know that it's actually a guy?

00:27:38.380 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:39.280 So he does.

00:27:40.400 He does.

00:27:40.840 And I can demonstrate to you that he doesn't.

00:27:42.440 But he's lying even to his fellow Muslims.

00:27:44.820 Let's go to chapter 49.

00:27:46.880 We talked about what?

00:27:48.340 I said, let's go back to, I'm reminding you that apparently I said what?

00:27:51.540 Apostasy.

00:27:51.960 Let's talk about that now because you're finished.

00:27:53.440 That's done.

00:27:54.420 I want to ask you five.

00:27:55.400 We need to come to my five questions.

00:27:56.800 Okay, we're not coming to five questions.

00:27:57.760 I have not agreed.

00:27:58.640 This is not a debate.

00:27:59.220 Excuse me.

00:28:00.000 Hey, hey, hey.

00:28:00.800 This is not a debate.

00:28:01.120 Did you agree or not?

00:28:02.840 Hey, did you agree or not?

00:28:04.940 Did you agree or not that I will ask you five questions and you will respond to them?

00:28:08.520 You agreed to that.

00:28:09.920 You explicitly agreed to that.

00:28:11.540 Okay, you speak now.

00:28:12.440 You explicitly agreed to that.

00:28:14.320 I have the message right here.

00:28:15.500 I showed it early before our stream.

00:28:17.020 I said, yes.

00:28:17.880 I said, yes, I will accept this under the condition that you accept three conditions.

00:28:22.200 The first one is I will ask you five questions and you will answer.

00:28:25.400 The second one is you will call me a positive prophet on the stream.

00:28:28.340 The third one is you will not mute me.

00:28:30.220 You accepted the five questions and you accepted the not muting.

00:28:35.160 You didn't accept the other one.

00:28:36.500 Is that true?

00:28:37.840 Okay.

00:28:38.240 Can I speak?

00:28:39.740 Just answer the question.

00:28:40.720 Is that true?

00:28:41.160 Why do you always have to give me an answer?

00:28:42.560 Is it true or not?

00:28:43.260 I'm asking if I can speak because I don't want to say he keeps cutting me.

00:28:46.180 Can I speak?

00:28:46.980 Just answer the question.

00:28:48.320 Well, of course, I'm going to answer the question.

00:28:49.420 I know you're getting irritated.

00:28:50.220 Go ahead.

00:28:50.880 Go ahead.

00:28:51.220 I know you.

00:28:52.300 Oh, yeah.

00:28:52.880 I know you.

00:28:53.340 My anxiety.

00:28:53.840 My anxiety.

00:28:55.040 My anxiety.

00:28:55.600 I can't speak English.

00:28:58.400 You can't speak Turkish properly.

00:28:59.440 You can't even speak Turkish properly.

00:29:00.760 What is this?

00:29:01.040 Yes.

00:29:01.320 Okay.

00:29:03.320 Did you or did you not accept the conditions?

00:29:04.880 Come on.

00:29:05.080 Just go on.

00:29:05.600 Get to the point.

00:29:06.240 Yep.

00:29:06.520 Just get to the point, man.

00:29:08.960 Okay.

00:29:09.320 What is this?

00:29:09.620 Now, guys, we'll translate that.

00:29:10.800 That's an all different story, yeah?

00:29:12.240 Okay.

00:29:12.900 He said to me, free conditions.

00:29:14.740 Now, guys, I think before we go into the whole apostasy thing, let's make it clear of the debate.

00:29:19.620 How did this whole debate even emerge?

00:29:22.080 Answer the question.

00:29:23.100 Answer the question.

00:29:23.620 He said to me, I have free conditions.

00:29:25.100 The first condition is that I will not be muted, if I'm not mistaken.

00:29:28.640 The second condition was that he's going to ask five questions.

00:29:31.700 The third condition is that he doesn't want to be called apos.

00:29:34.540 Is that correct, apos?

00:29:36.020 No, I didn't say that.

00:29:37.360 You did say that.

00:29:37.860 You said I want to be called by my name, not being called an apos.

00:29:40.980 Yeah.

00:29:41.340 I said my three conditions are five questions, that you refer to me only as a apostasy prophet on your title in the stream, and three, that you will not mute me.

00:29:49.940 Yes.

00:29:50.400 That's the three conditions.

00:29:51.620 Are you okay?

00:29:52.440 No, you didn't.

00:29:53.040 Are you okay?

00:29:53.540 I just said that.

00:29:54.140 No, you didn't.

00:29:54.560 You explicitly asked me for a specific title, which I didn't say.

00:29:57.740 That's what you mentioned.

00:29:58.840 That's not what I said.

00:29:59.900 Okay.

00:30:00.140 No problem.

00:30:00.460 Whatever.

00:30:00.840 Okay.

00:30:00.980 No problem.

00:30:01.680 Now, firstly, I said I have no right.

00:30:04.060 I mean, I have no reason to accept your condition.

00:30:07.360 Look, let's get something right, yeah?

00:30:08.660 Okay.

00:30:08.900 I've got nearly triple the followers you have.

00:30:11.420 I don't care.

00:30:12.320 You need me, bruv.

00:30:14.380 Look at my suit.

00:30:14.840 And yet you challenged me.

00:30:16.060 I didn't challenge you.

00:30:16.840 Bruv, you need me.

00:30:18.320 Remember this pen?

00:30:18.520 And you challenged me.

00:30:19.280 I didn't challenge you.

00:30:19.800 Did I challenge you to a debate?

00:30:21.400 Did I challenge you to a debate?

00:30:22.560 Remember this pen?

00:30:23.200 We're going to come to that.

00:30:23.640 Did I challenge you to a debate or did you challenge me?

00:30:25.320 We're going to come to that, yeah?

00:30:25.960 We're going to come to that.

00:30:27.060 Did I challenge you to a debate or did you challenge me?

00:30:28.840 You challenged me.

00:30:30.220 No, you didn't.

00:30:30.780 You challenged me.

00:30:31.440 No, no, no, no, no.

00:30:32.300 In the beginning, two years ago.

00:30:34.080 You even said to me, I initiated the offer.

00:30:36.940 That's what you just said.

00:30:38.200 Okay.

00:30:38.440 Did you not tell me that you would want to debate me?

00:30:41.200 This is two years ago.

00:30:41.960 Not recently.

00:30:42.560 Talk about two years ago.

00:30:44.220 Did you not keep challenging me to an online debate?

00:30:48.840 You first did.

00:30:49.880 I don't think I initiated that.

00:30:51.380 I am really sure.

00:30:52.220 I might have at some point said, yeah, sure.

00:30:54.740 Yes, I want to have this debate.

00:30:56.240 But it was you who initiated.

00:30:58.200 You on Twitter said, come to Speaker's Corner and this and this.

00:31:01.540 That was the first challenge.

00:31:02.840 Okay.

00:31:03.300 As far as I remember, you might be correct.

00:31:06.620 Yes.

00:31:06.880 Allah says in the Quran, speak the truth even if it's against yourself.

00:31:09.260 I'll speak the truth.

00:31:10.240 If you claim that, if either I challenge you or I've been challenged, regardless.

00:31:13.860 Did I not say to you, because I need to do another checklist here, yeah?

00:31:16.160 Did I not say to you, come to London.

00:31:19.420 I'll pay for your ticket.

00:31:20.500 I'll pay for your one-star hotel.

00:31:21.940 Okay.

00:31:22.340 And we will have a debate.

00:31:24.660 Yes.

00:31:25.280 Okay.

00:31:25.960 Did you say yes or no to that?

00:31:26.800 What did I say?

00:31:27.380 I said no to that.

00:31:28.560 Okay, good.

00:31:28.900 One second.

00:31:29.200 One second.

00:31:29.520 One second.

00:31:29.740 I need to get my notes out, yeah?

00:31:31.220 Hello?

00:31:31.700 Hello?

00:31:32.760 Yes.

00:31:33.160 Give me a minute.

00:31:33.780 Give me a second.

00:31:34.160 Yes.

00:31:34.760 Yes.

00:31:37.100 Give me a second.

00:31:38.420 Why?

00:31:38.660 What's going on?

00:31:41.520 Are you Googling?

00:31:44.020 Are you Googling?

00:31:45.080 Are you Googling?

00:31:45.640 I can't see you.

00:31:47.460 I can't see you.

00:31:48.240 Are you Googling?

00:31:48.740 What would I be Googling?

00:31:50.860 You're the Google mask.

00:31:51.820 You don't come out of your bedroom.

00:31:53.120 How can I?

00:31:53.760 Let me guess.

00:31:54.600 How do I win a Muslim in a debate?

00:31:56.760 I'm actually live streaming on my own channel right now.

00:31:58.800 How do I?

00:31:59.080 Yeah, that's not a problem.

00:31:59.860 How do I win?

00:32:00.240 By the way, put this up.

00:32:01.780 It shouldn't be unlisted.

00:32:02.860 Yeah, okay.

00:32:03.720 And don't call it an interview.

00:32:04.280 Oh, really?

00:32:05.060 Oh, really?

00:32:05.760 It shouldn't be unlisted.

00:32:06.700 That was the interview, you know, like Daniel Hakikachu.

00:32:10.420 Yeah?

00:32:11.080 You're having too many interviews.

00:32:11.920 You should be a reporter.

00:32:12.820 You should apply for journalism.

00:32:16.600 All right.

00:32:17.400 Let's see.

00:32:18.280 Come on, neighbors.

00:32:19.280 I can hear click, click.

00:32:20.900 I can hear click, click.

00:32:22.540 Okay.

00:32:23.020 Don't look at your computer.

00:32:24.220 Don't look at your computer.

00:32:25.320 Yeah, that's why I went face to face.

00:32:26.480 I want to look at you in the eyes.

00:32:28.500 Alidawa, I am live streaming on my own channel right now.

00:32:32.660 Why do you think?

00:32:33.640 That's fine.

00:32:34.200 That's fine.

00:32:34.640 No problem.

00:32:34.940 Do you think it's very interesting that you accuse me of looking something

00:32:37.680 and people can see me right on my screen here?

00:32:39.220 No problem.

00:32:39.920 No problem.

00:32:40.560 It's fine.

00:32:41.320 It's okay.

00:32:41.800 What a child, man.

00:32:42.680 Yes, yes.

00:32:43.160 No problem.

00:32:43.640 Anyway, so.

00:32:44.720 Okay, where were we?

00:32:45.520 I invited you to London.

00:32:46.960 Did you say yes or no?

00:32:49.540 No, I said no.

00:32:50.380 Okay, good.

00:32:50.980 So that's when no.

00:32:51.520 Okay.

00:32:52.440 Then some time went by.

00:32:53.800 You came back again.

00:32:54.540 Because your guys challenge everybody and you get smashed by everybody,

00:32:57.320 but you can't carry on challenging.

00:32:58.480 But consistency is key anyway.

00:32:59.620 So carry on.

00:33:00.540 So anyways, you said to me, online debate.

00:33:02.940 I said to you, no.

00:33:05.020 Face to face.

00:33:06.040 Did you say yes or no to a face to face?

00:33:10.440 Initially, I said no.

00:33:11.840 Good.

00:33:12.340 Okay.

00:33:12.860 Then after some pressure, you said yes, face to face.

00:33:16.220 Then you said audience.

00:33:17.740 Audience.

00:33:18.000 Did you say yes or no to an audience?

00:33:19.100 If we didn't talk about an audience, I initially said we meet face to face.

00:33:24.880 No audience.

00:33:26.060 Good.

00:33:26.520 So no audience.

00:33:27.540 Okay.

00:33:27.860 And that didn't happen after pressure.

00:33:29.140 That happened because I made arrangements with modern debate to do this.

00:33:32.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:32.760 Yeah.

00:33:33.160 Yeah.

00:33:33.360 That's what happened.

00:33:33.920 Yeah.

00:33:33.960 Okay.

00:33:34.280 Yeah.

00:33:34.500 I can prove that.

00:33:35.100 We believe you.

00:33:35.800 We believe you.

00:33:36.380 Okay.

00:33:36.720 So when it comes to, you're going to laugh a lot.

00:33:38.880 We're having fun.

00:33:39.680 Yeah.

00:33:39.800 This is after party.

00:33:40.800 I didn't know it was going to be this one.

00:33:42.040 Okay.

00:33:42.700 After that, we'll come to my backstory as well.

00:33:44.660 No, no.

00:33:44.860 We are.

00:33:45.100 We are.

00:33:45.280 We are.

00:33:45.380 So anyways, yeah, you're going to, that's right.

00:33:46.960 You're going to have to have your say on it.

00:33:48.240 So just to be fair.

00:33:48.820 Okay.

00:33:49.240 Now, so did you, when, when I said I'm going to stream on my channel, did you say yes or

00:33:54.800 no?

00:33:56.280 I said no, because modern day debate is the organizer.

00:33:59.120 So they should have exclusivity in terms of streaming live.

00:34:03.140 And afterwards we can publish it.

00:34:04.740 That's what I said.

00:34:05.180 No problem.

00:34:05.840 I've got four no's here.

00:34:10.280 Oh.

00:34:10.780 When someone says no, no, no, no.

00:34:14.500 It's a no.

00:34:15.840 So now the thing I'm asking is the following.

00:34:17.860 I'm asking for you to come.

00:34:19.340 I'm paying for your ticket and one star hotel to come.

00:34:21.280 You say no.

00:34:22.060 I say face to face.

00:34:23.240 You say no.

00:34:24.120 I say audience.

00:34:25.060 You say no.

00:34:25.900 I say, can I stream?

00:34:26.800 You say no.

00:34:28.660 Or the only word you know is no.

00:34:30.260 So then afterwards we agree that I come to America.

00:34:32.840 I travel all the way 13 hours to come there.

00:34:36.920 Yeah.

00:34:37.180 To do your intellectual burial.

00:34:38.760 Yeah.

00:34:39.320 So therefore when I came, I said, New York, California, or somewhere else.

00:34:45.100 One of these three.

00:34:45.740 Okay.

00:34:45.880 That's the only thing that I said.

00:34:47.500 Okay.

00:34:48.060 We agreed on.

00:34:49.500 I spoke to James and James was busy.

00:34:51.400 We agreed on California and I was looking for Sacramento.

00:34:55.200 I had no idea that the US is that strict on getting a jab.

00:35:00.360 Okay.

00:35:00.600 I don't want to mention the words.

00:35:01.460 They're going to bloody end up censoring it.

00:35:02.940 They were this strict.

00:35:04.180 My team in California, which I have screenshots of, said to me, you have to get vaccine.

00:35:08.320 And I thought to myself, no, I'm sure I can come and show that I don't have the virus.

00:35:12.600 They said, you are not getting in.

00:35:14.380 When I found that out, I came and I said, James, I cannot get in.

00:35:18.420 Is this true?

00:35:19.620 And which you guys confirmed.

00:35:21.040 No, you can't.

00:35:22.120 So I know you're looking for any excuse for it not to happen.

00:35:25.260 So I said, what is the closest country that you can come without an excuse?

00:35:30.100 Mexico.

00:35:30.660 That's the only place.

00:35:31.740 I know you're not going to come anywhere else.

00:35:33.340 I said, Mexico.

00:35:34.400 Did you say yes or no to Mexico?

00:35:36.900 I said, no.

00:35:37.960 Okay.

00:35:38.200 That's five no's.

00:35:39.180 So I'm going to give it to you now.

00:35:41.460 You can, if you want to explain your side, I have five no's.

00:35:44.920 Please tell me how these are yes.

00:35:47.540 Okay.

00:35:48.280 Apparently we are doing this instead of doing Alida was part of the agreed to Mubahala.

00:35:52.800 So he's not keeping up any of his agreements again, as usual.

00:35:57.280 I'm not surprised, but fine.

00:35:58.760 If you want to so badly go through with questions and answers, let's do this, dear Alida Dawa.

00:36:04.960 Please answer to me.

00:36:08.560 At the beginning of our debate talks that we are having, that we have had now, who initiated the debate?

00:36:15.460 Was it you or me?

00:36:18.500 Who initiated the debate?

00:36:19.640 Was it you or me?

00:36:21.460 I can't remember.

00:36:22.100 Well, either you or me.

00:36:24.080 Okay.

00:36:24.300 It was you.

00:36:25.120 No, we don't know.

00:36:25.860 We don't know.

00:36:26.760 Yeah, we do.

00:36:27.380 We do.

00:36:27.880 You even sent me the first message.

00:36:29.640 I can show that.

00:36:30.400 I already did show that to my audience before we started.

00:36:32.880 Is there a possibility that you did?

00:36:34.920 No, it's you.

00:36:36.040 Is there a chance?

00:36:36.640 There's no chance?

00:36:37.500 There's no chance that I did it.

00:36:38.740 There's no chance that you did.

00:36:39.700 In our current talks, it was most definitely you who did this.

00:36:43.340 So you even said that.

00:36:45.320 You said I initiated it.

00:36:46.960 So you initiated the offer.

00:36:49.080 You challenged me to a debate, right?

00:36:51.000 What did I say to you?

00:36:52.060 Did I not say I do online debates?

00:36:56.640 We can have an online debate hosted by Modern Day Debate.

00:36:59.660 Is that what I said as a response to your challenge?

00:37:02.140 Yeah.

00:37:02.400 That's what I said, right?

00:37:03.400 So you challenged me.

00:37:04.880 I said online, right?

00:37:07.400 Yeah.

00:37:08.100 After some time, I said to you, because you said, hey, you are scared to face me.

00:37:12.460 I said, oh, you think I'm scared to face you?

00:37:14.740 Okay.

00:37:14.880 Let's arrange a debate face-to-face in Texas, right?

00:37:18.380 First, you said no.

00:37:19.100 Did I or did I not do that?

00:37:20.800 Yes.

00:37:21.060 After you said no.

00:37:21.860 Okay.

00:37:22.400 You rejected that.

00:37:23.260 And you said it must be with audience.

00:37:25.360 After some time, I talked with Modern Day Debate and said, he said, hey, we have a debate in Texas arranged.

00:37:31.540 We can host you there.

00:37:32.720 And I said, hey, look, we have an audience.

00:37:34.940 We have face-to-face.

00:37:36.000 That's all the conditions that you asked for.

00:37:38.000 Come to Texas.

00:37:39.540 And what did you say?

00:37:40.420 You said yes, right?

00:37:41.640 No, no, no.

00:37:42.240 I didn't say yes.

00:37:43.080 You agreed to that.

00:37:43.720 No, no.

00:37:44.100 I said, I can't make it in January.

00:37:45.380 Remember?

00:37:45.880 Okay.

00:37:46.200 Fine.

00:37:46.560 Okay.

00:37:46.920 You agreed to it first.

00:37:47.520 Because of the marriage?

00:37:48.480 The marriage what?

00:37:49.060 You agreed to it first.

00:37:50.600 But what was the reason I couldn't come?

00:37:51.720 You said, I can't come in January.

00:37:53.320 I don't care.

00:37:53.620 Why couldn't I come?

00:37:56.040 Did I interrupt you earlier?

00:37:57.180 I'm sorry.

00:37:57.420 I'm sorry.

00:37:57.760 Marriage documented.

00:37:59.080 Okay.

00:37:59.500 Yeah.

00:38:00.020 You said you can't do January.

00:38:01.760 You would like to do May, right?

00:38:03.700 So what you then said is...

00:38:05.320 I didn't say May.

00:38:05.940 You said May.

00:38:07.000 Okay.

00:38:07.240 Fine.

00:38:07.520 Fine.

00:38:07.740 I correct.

00:38:08.560 James said, we have a date in May already.

00:38:10.880 And you said, okay, May works for me.

00:38:13.440 Then you asked me to do it in London.

00:38:16.400 I said, no, not London.

00:38:18.220 I will not come there.

00:38:19.200 You said, okay, I will come to your country and we will do it there.

00:38:22.680 Did you or did you not say that?

00:38:24.140 Yes.

00:38:25.040 Okay.

00:38:25.340 You did say that.

00:38:26.160 Yeah.

00:38:26.940 And you said, New York, California, or London.

00:38:32.020 I don't know why you...

00:38:32.960 I actually have the message here.

00:38:35.880 You said California, New York, and London.

00:38:37.160 Apparently, London is also here.

00:38:38.480 I don't know.

00:38:39.260 But that's what you said.

00:38:40.020 My mistake.

00:38:40.500 My mistake.

00:38:40.880 Yes.

00:38:43.180 Afterwards, curiously, for some reason, on December 10th, and I have the receipts here,

00:38:49.300 you told me specifically, if for some reason I cannot get into the US, we will do the debate

00:38:56.000 somewhere else.

00:38:57.080 Yeah.

00:38:57.420 Correct.

00:38:57.640 Right?

00:38:58.140 Correct.

00:38:58.340 And what did I say in response to you?

00:39:00.160 Did I agree to that?

00:39:01.660 Remind me.

00:39:02.380 I cannot remember.

00:39:03.640 I said I will not accept any other conditions except these.

00:39:08.000 Okay.

00:39:08.300 And mentions to you again these conditions.

00:39:09.620 That's correct.

00:39:10.180 That's correct.

00:39:10.700 Yep.

00:39:11.120 So you admit that I never agreed to such a condition.

00:39:15.020 I explicitly rejected that.

00:39:17.140 Yeah.

00:39:17.240 I explicitly said I will only accept these conditions here in America because it's you who insist on

00:39:22.120 face-to-face, not me.

00:39:23.400 I can do it online today if you want to.

00:39:25.800 Okay.

00:39:26.460 Okay.

00:39:26.700 I accept that.

00:39:27.860 That's correct.

00:39:28.620 Yep.

00:39:28.720 December 10th, you said, if anything happens, we will do it somewhere else and this will

00:39:32.960 not stop us.

00:39:33.760 You somehow said that on December 10th.

00:39:35.760 Then you said, I need to talk with some people.

00:39:38.540 I will get back to you whether we can do it in Texas or not, or somewhere else or not.

00:39:42.060 Then you got back a few days later and said, yes, we can do it.

00:39:44.640 What did you do in that meantime?

00:39:46.800 Why did you not try to find out whether you can enter America or not?

00:39:50.400 Okay.

00:39:50.860 Can I answer?

00:39:51.960 Sure.

00:39:52.440 Just give me the answer to that.

00:39:53.700 Yes.

00:39:54.020 So the answer to that is I did not even think that you cannot get in.

00:39:58.340 I didn't.

00:39:58.740 That even crossed my mind because I've traveled to Turkey, which I know you can't go because

00:40:02.560 of some, you've involved some terror organization that blow themselves up or something.

00:40:06.120 That's not true.

00:40:07.260 That's not true.

00:40:08.100 I actually cannot go to Turkey because there is a court order against me because I insulted

00:40:13.480 Islam, you're a beautiful religion.

00:40:14.800 Okay, but also you were involved in a terrorist organization and FBI came to your door?

00:40:17.520 I was never involved in a terrorist organization.

00:40:19.200 FBI didn't come to your door about this?

00:40:20.840 FBI did come to my door because somebody reported me and they asked me about that.

00:40:23.600 Well, they have a right to damn report you if you're a terrorist.

00:40:26.060 Come on, Danny.

00:40:26.980 Do you believe them?

00:40:27.520 They asked me about a false complaint.

00:40:33.180 They actually worked together with me.

00:40:34.260 I'm supposed to be a Muslim.

00:40:35.300 I am in contact with the FBI.

00:40:36.820 I was never part of a terrorist organization.

00:40:38.840 I'm supposed to be the Muslim.

00:40:38.900 Yeah, I'm the Muslim that's supposed to, you know, we are labeled with that, yeah?

00:40:42.080 Because that's what you think.

00:40:42.660 It's your guys who blow things up.

00:40:44.240 I don't.

00:40:44.920 You know, that's ironic, though.

00:40:45.820 The thing is, you blame us and you're somebody who was with a group of people planning on

00:40:49.220 blowing this up.

00:40:49.620 No, I wasn't.

00:40:50.760 I wasn't.

00:40:51.340 I wasn't.

00:40:52.320 I wasn't.

00:40:52.900 How ironic.

00:40:53.900 I wasn't.

00:40:54.400 How ironic, isn't that?

00:40:55.420 Stop changing.

00:40:56.020 I wasn't.

00:40:56.700 Stop changing the topic.

00:40:57.720 Why did you not?

00:40:59.300 Why did you not find?

00:41:01.040 Did you really?

00:41:02.920 Why did you need one day or two days to make sure if you can or cannot come, but you didn't

00:41:08.320 know that you need a vaccine to enter America?

00:41:10.480 Does that make sense?

00:41:11.340 I can't make sense of it.

00:41:12.320 No, no.

00:41:12.620 You can make sense of it.

00:41:13.240 It's very, well, you can't.

00:41:14.340 You're someone that doesn't believe in God, believe everything popped into existence.

00:41:17.240 So I don't blame you.

00:41:17.760 It doesn't make sense to you, yeah?

00:41:18.740 The reason is because I had to find out where we're doing it.

00:41:21.840 New York or California?

00:41:23.220 Okay.

00:41:23.620 I had to discuss which, because we want an audience.

00:41:25.720 This is from your side and our side as well.

00:41:28.040 So New York was good when Muhammad Ijab smashed David Wood, buried him there, his funeral was

00:41:31.700 there.

00:41:32.220 So that's why I was looking at that.

00:41:33.400 Allah praise for Muhammad, not to Muhammad, right?

00:41:37.920 Go ahead.

00:41:38.640 Sure.

00:41:38.940 Go ahead.

00:41:39.200 Do you have a joke?

00:41:39.760 I didn't get it.

00:41:40.860 Allah praise for Muhammad.

00:41:42.060 I've had dead jokes before you had it, but I have to give it to you.

00:41:44.960 Your dead jokes are on point.

00:41:46.620 You are the joke.

00:41:47.040 Go ahead.

00:41:47.480 So yeah, he was humiliated so badly.

00:41:49.960 He said, I wanted to walk off stage.

00:41:52.680 Damn.

00:41:53.400 That was such an amazing feeling.

00:41:55.080 Anyway.

00:41:55.440 I know.

00:41:55.660 Allah praise for Muhammad.

00:41:56.860 So that's why, basically, I was checking, where can we do it?

00:42:01.800 New York or California?

00:42:03.740 That's what I was looking at to tell James, James, New York is better because he said to

00:42:07.680 me, Ali, can you look at venues?

00:42:08.900 I'm busy.

00:42:09.960 I didn't even look at vaccines or the visa or anything like that, applying.

00:42:15.160 I was just looking at, where can we do it?

00:42:18.460 New York, California?

00:42:19.560 Where?

00:42:19.680 Because James was saying, Los Angeles.

00:42:21.360 Oh, New York is, he was saying like, they're liberal.

00:42:24.340 They're going to tell us, wear masks.

00:42:25.400 I want you guys to see your facial expressions.

00:42:26.660 Ask him.

00:42:27.180 That's what he said.

00:42:28.120 So does that make sense?

00:42:29.400 Probably that's a question.

00:42:30.680 That's a question.

00:42:31.560 I don't know why you always have to give me a novel to some simple question, but yeah,

00:42:35.300 sure.

00:42:36.080 Have you never heard of travel bans and vaccine requirements and all that since the beginning

00:42:42.920 of COVID?

00:42:43.420 I mean, wasn't it very clear to you that many countries demand that, even your own country

00:42:46.940 demands that I cannot come to the UK if I don't have a vaccine?

00:42:50.100 No.

00:42:51.480 Look, that's news to me.

00:42:52.740 So you're telling me that you cannot come into the UK without a vaccine?

00:42:55.840 Yes.

00:42:57.280 That's news to me.

00:42:58.340 I'll tell you something.

00:42:59.080 I went to Turkey.

00:42:59.960 I'm being honest with you.

00:43:00.700 I went to Turkey.

00:43:01.840 And when I went to Turkey, they said, you have to prove that you have no COVID when you

00:43:05.840 enter the country.

00:43:06.680 And I said, bro, that's calm.

00:43:07.840 I wasn't even thinking of going to Turkey.

00:43:09.280 So when I went in, I thought it's not that deep as people make it out to be like, you can't

00:43:12.400 go get a jab, et cetera.

00:43:13.680 And especially after what happened to some people that I know, even Mohammed Hijab, when

00:43:17.560 he developed certain blood clots, I don't want to get into this because they're going

00:43:19.800 to censor it.

00:43:20.560 Yeah.

00:43:20.740 When he got that, then to me, I was like, I firstly, I had it.

00:43:25.420 I had COVID and I got over it.

00:43:26.680 It wasn't that deep.

00:43:27.220 So I was thinking, why do I need that?

00:43:28.940 Anyways.

00:43:29.220 So when that happened to Hijab, I said, personally, look, people should take, I'm not telling

00:43:33.360 no one to take it, take it.

00:43:34.700 I prefer not to.

00:43:37.620 Well, you are against vaccinations in general, right?

00:43:39.820 You're anti-vax.

00:43:40.480 No, no, no, no.

00:43:40.720 I wouldn't, I wouldn't say that.

00:43:41.760 I would say personally, each individual, you have to, because at the end of the day, if,

00:43:45.960 if, for example, the, the, the, the, the people, like we live at a time where people,

00:43:50.440 if it's needed and it's going to protect, if they believe it's going to protect, that's

00:43:52.960 calm.

00:43:53.140 You should obey the law of the land.

00:43:54.900 It's as simple as that.

00:43:55.420 As Muslims, our contracts are very, very important.

00:43:58.140 So that's why I'm not telling anyone not to take.

00:44:00.620 I'm saying personally, me, me, I prefer not to.

00:44:03.220 Okay.

00:44:03.540 But you are personally against the vaccines, right?

00:44:05.600 No, I don't want to take it.

00:44:07.380 I'm telling you, I don't want to take it.

00:44:08.480 You keep telling me personally, personally.

00:44:10.600 I'm telling you, I don't want to.

00:44:11.940 Yeah.

00:44:12.180 That's, that's what I'm saying.

00:44:13.160 Personally.

00:44:13.680 That's, that's why I'm saying personally.

00:44:15.560 I believe no one should take it.

00:44:17.220 I never said that.

00:44:18.200 I never said that.

00:44:19.280 Okay.

00:44:19.500 Sorry.

00:44:19.820 Okay.

00:44:21.260 Aren't these your words?

00:44:25.420 Wait, last I remember, my friend Mohamed Hijab, whom I'm sure you remember well, took

00:44:29.980 the jab and was nearly dying due to blood clots.

00:44:32.460 And that wasn't my reason.

00:44:33.900 I've been staying away from it since I stay away from many vaccines.

00:44:37.720 So I haven't taken and don't want to take it.

00:44:40.580 Aren't those your words?

00:44:41.620 So you are personally against vaccines, right?

00:44:43.680 What's that got to do with people shouldn't take it?

00:44:45.060 I never said people shouldn't take it.

00:44:46.860 Okay.

00:44:47.140 I, yes, I don't want to.

00:44:48.560 My immune system.

00:44:49.280 Okay.

00:44:49.560 Have some raw, manufa honey, some black seed oil.

00:44:53.400 You're good to go.

00:44:53.960 Well, okay, fine.

00:44:55.560 That's very nice.

00:44:57.700 Can I ask you a very personal question for just a minute?

00:45:00.500 Do you also, what about kids?

00:45:02.440 Like when you have kids, do you also think my kids shouldn't have vaccine?

00:45:06.340 I'm just curious right now.

00:45:07.760 To be honest, as their parent who loves them, I would do what's best for them.

00:45:12.040 Okay, fine.

00:45:13.340 Including, okay, we'll get to that.

00:45:17.980 We'll get to that.

00:45:18.900 We'll get to that.

00:45:19.340 We're going to get to that.

00:45:20.540 We're getting to a lot of places today.

00:45:21.560 Now, now, after all of that, let me ask you a question.

00:45:25.900 I say, I say, I say we have an online debate.

00:45:29.240 You say, no, it has to be face to face.

00:45:31.120 It has to be face to face.

00:45:32.560 It has to be face to face.

00:45:33.720 And since you insist on that, you make the offer and say, okay, I will come to America.

00:45:37.060 You say it will happen.

00:45:38.700 I will come to America and all that.

00:45:40.800 And after everything is arranged and even publicly announced, you suddenly say, oh, I can't come to America because of vaccine.

00:45:47.080 Is that my fault or your fault?

00:45:48.880 To be honest, it's very clear.

00:45:50.120 Firstly, I wouldn't say in that very instance, it's anyone's fault.

00:45:53.060 If I say it's your fault, that would be unfair.

00:45:55.180 So I'm not going to say it's your fault.

00:45:56.500 Neither I'll say it's my fault.

00:45:57.300 So I have to be just in this matter.

00:45:58.360 What I would say is, though, for me to invite you and you're rejecting it, yeah, for me to say face to face and you reject it, for me to say audience and you reject it, for you live streaming, reject it.

00:46:07.820 We don't know that.

00:46:08.740 I said that all those times myself.

00:46:10.200 Another thing you reject, the Mexico thing, which you, again, you said that, you said, stipulated that before that you're not traveling anywhere else.

00:46:16.900 I'm assuming because I'm assuming that you have a criminal record of the robbery and that terrorist charge that you're scared if you leave America, they won't let you back in.

00:46:24.300 Maybe.

00:46:24.700 I'm assuming.

00:46:25.600 I'm not saying it's a fact.

00:46:26.260 It might be that you're scared to leave the country because to me, if you're so sure of yourself.

00:46:30.380 I have charges of terrorism, which is how I entered America and even became a citizen of America.

00:46:34.460 No, no.

00:46:34.900 Well, that's the thing.

00:46:35.660 I'm saying, for example, you know very well that you was involved with a group that blowed themselves up.

00:46:40.080 And you're the same guy who said you were taking antidepressants and that you said you was at a traffic light and you were concerned.

00:46:46.880 You said if the traffic light didn't turn green, you felt like running people over.

00:46:51.340 So I think the tendency is not coming.

00:46:52.720 It was a side effect of agitation, which is a response that is very common to antidepressants.

00:46:59.740 Do you not know what antidepressants are?

00:47:02.420 Have you never known people who take antidepressants or who have side effects to it?

00:47:05.420 I have, but I've never seen that kind of system.

00:47:08.920 It's quite normal.

00:47:10.420 It's quite normal.

00:47:10.940 You can have psychological reactions and side effects to medication.

00:47:14.100 I have never seen that you would want to run over innocent people.

00:47:17.400 I also didn't say I wanted to do that.

00:47:19.940 I said that's how I felt.

00:47:21.700 That's impulsive thinking.

00:47:22.940 I know you don't understand psychology, but people have intrusive thoughts as a result of mental problems.

00:47:29.960 It doesn't mean you want to run people over and kill people.

00:47:32.640 But it goes back to these conditions that you make.

00:47:35.000 When I asked you about the whole incest thing with your own adult child.

00:47:38.920 See, how did we even get here?

00:47:41.180 I'm asking you a very simple question.

00:47:42.520 Was it your fault or my fault?

00:47:43.720 No, it's a correlation.

00:47:44.960 Because you're saying all the time, I would have, but it's the same thing.

00:47:48.440 You said the same thing with the incest thing.

00:47:50.380 Yes, I believe that if there is no harm, there is no problem with an individual.

00:47:55.300 I was asking specifically you to have intimacy with their own adult child.

00:47:58.520 I didn't say anything about myself.

00:48:00.060 Yes, you did.

00:48:01.460 I didn't say anything about myself.

00:48:03.460 I said, if there was no harm, the wording here is very clear.

00:48:09.380 This is a hypothetical, which is not possible.

00:48:12.280 If there was no harm, it doesn't matter.

00:48:16.080 It doesn't matter what the harm is.

00:48:18.480 It's the hypothetical.

00:48:19.400 What's the harm?

00:48:19.960 It doesn't matter what the harm is.

00:48:21.200 That's not how this works.

00:48:22.720 Tell me the harm.

00:48:23.960 That's not how it works.

00:48:25.380 You don't believe.

00:48:25.940 You're the one who said, I don't believe in good and bad.

00:48:27.540 There's no hellfire.

00:48:28.540 It doesn't matter.

00:48:29.420 It doesn't matter.

00:48:29.940 You're making an allegation.

00:48:31.440 You're making an allegation, which is not true.

00:48:34.640 I say it is harmful.

00:48:37.620 It is not possible for there not to be harm.

00:48:40.780 If it was not harmful, there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.

00:48:43.680 But since it is harmful, it is wrong.

00:48:46.720 That's what I said.

00:48:48.340 Okay.

00:48:48.560 So that does not mean I would personally do it or find it okay to do it.

00:48:52.520 Okay.

00:48:53.080 Did you not go to the podcast with Armin or interview and he said to you, what is wrong

00:48:58.660 with incest?

00:49:00.220 Yes, he did.

00:49:00.720 You said, no, no, it's a harm.

00:49:02.300 He did this.

00:49:03.080 No, it's a harm.

00:49:04.060 And he's like, no, what's the harm?

00:49:05.220 What's the harm?

00:49:05.940 What's the harm?

00:49:06.180 And then he's like, objectively, is there any harm?

00:49:08.040 He's like, actually, no, there is no harm.

00:49:10.300 No, it wasn't.

00:49:11.000 That wasn't about incest in general.

00:49:12.500 It was about two consenting individuals who cannot procreate if there is any harm in

00:49:17.860 that.

00:49:18.080 Is there harm in that?

00:49:19.200 Can you demonstrate harm in that?

00:49:21.140 No, you can't.

00:49:22.040 I can't demonstrate harm in that either.

00:49:23.560 That doesn't have anything to do with justifying or glorifying incest.

00:49:28.280 That was a completely normal philosophical discussion.

00:49:30.920 Okay.

00:49:31.300 Apos, did you not say that if there's two consenting adults, you and let's say your grown up adult

00:49:39.360 child.

00:49:40.160 Okay.

00:49:40.360 I'm only mentioning this because that's your whole view.

00:49:43.480 I don't, I'm just giving an example.

00:49:44.840 I didn't say that.

00:49:45.940 As long as there's no harm.

00:49:47.220 Now, if I see the following, tell me, what would you think?

00:49:48.980 If I said, I would like to kill, I would like to execute babies, but because there's

00:49:55.700 harm, I'm not going to do it.

00:49:56.680 But I want to, because there's harm, I'm not going to do it.

00:50:00.660 What the hell does that say about me?

00:50:02.440 That doesn't make any sense.

00:50:03.900 That doesn't make any sense.

00:50:04.800 And it's also a false equivalence because I never said I would do it.

00:50:07.840 I was a false equivalence.

00:50:08.460 I spoke of a hypothetical and said there is harm in it.

00:50:12.780 No, no.

00:50:12.980 I'm saying if I say, if there is no harm to the baby, I would do, I would kill the baby.

00:50:19.360 False equivalence.

00:50:20.220 I never said I would do anything like that.

00:50:22.060 No, no, no.

00:50:22.340 You gave me an example.

00:50:23.260 I evaluated that as a third person.

00:50:25.480 The condition is the harm factor.

00:50:27.280 The condition is the harm factor.

00:50:28.220 You said if there is no harm.

00:50:29.720 I'm asking you, what is the harm?

00:50:32.020 I don't care what the harm is.

00:50:33.980 I am telling you, you are misrepresenting the position.

00:50:36.240 What's the harm?

00:50:36.460 I never said I would do anything.

00:50:38.660 Okay, what's the harm?

00:50:39.160 I said if two individuals were to do that and there was no harm, there would be nothing

00:50:43.520 wrong with it.

00:50:44.340 But that is not reality.

00:50:46.060 I clearly and explicitly said to you, but that is not reality, which means there is harm

00:50:50.800 in that.

00:50:51.380 That's what I tell you.

00:50:52.240 Are you telling me in America, incest doesn't happen?

00:50:55.340 Are you telling me a grown man?

00:50:56.540 Of course it happens.

00:50:57.260 Okay, a grown man and his child.

00:50:59.660 Okay, a grown man, yeah, A, let's call him A, and his son, grown adult who's 18 years

00:51:07.440 old.

00:51:07.880 They want to use protection and have intimacy.

00:51:10.240 Is there anything wrong with that?

00:51:12.000 I think probably it is, yes.

00:51:15.380 Okay, what's wrong with it?

00:51:17.120 Well, first off it is, wait, you said the child is what?

00:51:20.880 No, no, he's an adult too, consenting adult.

00:51:23.320 I think it is detrimental to society, I would say it is terrible, it is dumb, it is undesirable.

00:51:30.120 Why is it terrible?

00:51:30.700 You're an atheist, what are you talking about?

00:51:32.000 Because it normalizes a harmful concept, even if the case in and of itself does not cause

00:51:37.920 any direct harm.

00:51:39.120 Prove it.

00:51:39.300 It does not cause any direct harm.

00:51:39.940 You're talking about the harm factor.

00:51:40.940 You're talking about the harm factor.

00:51:41.700 Prove it.

00:51:43.140 I'm telling you that it doesn't cause any, I'm telling you it doesn't cause any direct

00:51:46.640 harm.

00:51:46.840 What do you want me to prove?

00:51:47.740 Thank you.

00:51:48.280 So it doesn't cause any direct harm.

00:51:49.680 No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, although the case in and of itself does not cause any

00:51:55.760 direct harm, it normalizes a specific practice, which is the extremity of society, which is

00:52:01.640 why it is detestable and undesirable.

00:52:03.740 So how?

00:52:04.320 The same thing with cannibalism, for example.

00:52:06.600 I'm sorry.

00:52:07.460 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:52:09.980 This will be very shocking to you to hear, I know.

00:52:11.820 But if I said, hey, I want to cut off my arm and I want you to eat this, you're allowed

00:52:17.500 to eat it.

00:52:18.300 I would still say, hey, that's a detestable, horrible practice because what you're doing

00:52:21.940 is you're normalizing.

00:52:23.440 What if you're consenting?

00:52:24.980 I would still say it's a detestable.

00:52:26.600 Why is it?

00:52:27.260 How?

00:52:27.740 Prove it.

00:52:28.000 What's the harm principle?

00:52:28.640 Prove it.

00:52:29.080 Prove it.

00:52:29.500 What do you mean?

00:52:29.880 Because you're normalizing a practice.

00:52:33.240 If you let me speak, God damn it.

00:52:34.260 Because you're normalizing a practice that has otherwise, if it is normalized, very detrimental,

00:52:40.980 very harmful consequences.

00:52:42.340 If you normalize a harmless form of incest, for example, it is a normalization of incest

00:52:49.600 in general or moving toward a normalization of incest, which in most cases is harmful

00:52:54.940 and undesirable.

00:52:56.260 Similarly, a case of cannibalism, which may be with consent, if you engage in it and say,

00:53:02.000 well, there is no harm in this, so we can do it, normalizes something that is extremely

00:53:06.080 detestable, extremely harmful, because people could end up eating each other or hunting for

00:53:11.160 it if they know that it is legal to eat human flesh.

00:53:14.340 Same thing.

00:53:15.200 Very similar.

00:53:15.660 We did say consent.

00:53:16.180 So that means you have an issue with homosexuality.

00:53:18.540 Two consented adults.

00:53:19.940 No, I don't.

00:53:20.300 Because a lot of men indulge in homosexuality.

00:53:23.100 I don't know why we're still talking about this, because I'm still supposed to ask you

00:53:27.000 about the...

00:53:27.400 Don't run away.

00:53:27.880 Don't run away.

00:53:28.280 We cannot...

00:53:28.960 We're not running away.

00:53:30.120 Procreation.

00:53:30.680 One second.

00:53:31.060 We are here because you are supposed to answer my question about why you didn't accept

00:53:35.000 the debate.

00:53:35.320 Because you're seeing two consented men who want to have intimacy with each other, you

00:53:39.000 believe it will have greater consequences on society, because if all of them did, there

00:53:42.100 would not be procreation.

00:53:43.980 Therefore, you are against homosexuality.

00:53:45.700 No, that's not how homosexuality works.

00:53:48.360 People do not engage in homosexuality.

00:53:49.700 You're lying.

00:53:50.360 Define homosexuality.

00:53:50.780 That's not how...

00:53:51.660 Define APM.

00:53:52.700 Define Friday.

00:53:53.280 Define Friday.

00:53:54.540 Define.

00:53:55.480 No, define.

00:53:55.980 People do not become homosexual or start engaging in homosexual interactions because

00:54:00.580 some people do it.

00:54:01.600 People have sexual preferences and desires.

00:54:04.260 That's not how it works.

00:54:05.020 Exactly.

00:54:05.840 And incest is one of the...

00:54:06.140 If you are secretly gay, that's not my problem.

00:54:10.300 But I will not engage in homosexual interactions because others do it.

00:54:13.600 I don't want to speak over you.

00:54:14.560 This is my point.

00:54:15.500 That is their sexual preference.

00:54:16.720 Incest.

00:54:17.420 A grown adult man and his grown adult child who use protection, there is no harm.

00:54:22.660 There is no harm.

00:54:24.040 That's not a sexual preference.

00:54:25.240 That's not how it works.

00:54:25.980 There is no harm.

00:54:26.780 And you cannot answer.

00:54:27.780 You know why?

00:54:28.400 Because you know...

00:54:29.360 Let me tell you something.

00:54:30.080 I just did.

00:54:30.880 Let me tell you something.

00:54:31.600 Let me answer.

00:54:31.980 You know one of my family members sent me your video.

00:54:35.360 And they were like, yeah, see this guy.

00:54:36.620 And I was like, do you know this guy's pro incest?

00:54:38.480 I swear to God, his mouth went like this.

00:54:40.560 No, he's not.

00:54:40.940 I said, yeah.

00:54:41.380 I said, watch this video.

00:54:42.560 He never sent me a video ever again in his life.

00:54:44.640 Well, you're also pro-terrorism.

00:54:46.020 No, exactly.

00:54:46.420 You're pro-terrorism.

00:54:48.260 Pro-terrorism.

00:54:48.920 Okay.

00:54:49.460 What a blow.

00:54:50.260 You hurt me.

00:54:51.120 Okay.

00:54:51.540 What about necrophilia?

00:54:52.620 My point is just because I say something about you and show people in certain footage,

00:54:56.660 that doesn't mean it's true.

00:54:57.720 You're talking nonsense.

00:54:59.000 If there is a dead corpse, let's suppose you pass away and somebody comes and wants to

00:55:03.100 rape your dead body.

00:55:04.080 Is that right or wrong?

00:55:05.200 Is that right or wrong?

00:55:06.020 Just come back to the...

00:55:07.520 Stop deflecting and going into a completely different territory.

00:55:10.260 Ali Dawah.

00:55:10.780 Ali Dawah.

00:55:11.340 Listen, listen.

00:55:12.120 If you pass away...

00:55:12.560 We are still at talking about a debate.

00:55:15.280 You are already not keeping up your agreement to answer my five questions.

00:55:19.580 It's a horrible thing.

00:55:20.040 So please stop deflecting.

00:55:21.640 Come back to the debate issue.

00:55:22.700 I'm not deflecting.

00:55:23.180 That's what we are.

00:55:24.200 Okay, no problem.

00:55:24.740 You deflected from the debate and the vaccine to incest, to mental health, now to having

00:55:31.960 sex with dead people.

00:55:32.740 What the hell is wrong with you?

00:55:33.560 No, no, no.

00:55:34.120 Come back to the topic.

00:55:34.900 What the hell is wrong with you?

00:55:35.680 You believe this, man.

00:55:36.660 Come back to the topic.

00:55:38.200 Come back to the topic.

00:55:39.000 Come on.

00:55:39.340 Okay.

00:55:39.900 What the hell is wrong with you?

00:55:41.000 I don't care.

00:55:41.840 I know you might have homosexual tendencies.

00:55:44.640 You might be interested in me.

00:55:45.980 You have been frantically tweeting about me.

00:55:47.840 I don't care about any of that.

00:55:49.040 Okay?

00:55:49.420 Let's get back to the vaccine issue.

00:55:51.200 Let's get back to the debate issue.

00:55:52.540 You cannot answer.

00:55:53.340 You know why?

00:55:53.820 You're ashamed.

00:55:54.920 And you are somebody who has a common question.

00:55:57.000 That's a morality.

00:55:58.160 You, somebody who, you have, you cannot bring any evidence to why incest is wrong, why necrophilia

00:56:03.180 is wrong.

00:56:03.740 You cannot bring evidence.

00:56:05.160 You, and you want to bring us morality.

00:56:07.600 My family who sent me that, you wanted to vomit when I showed you.

00:56:10.660 I'm hurting right now.

00:56:11.400 There's nothing wrong with this.

00:56:11.820 I'm hurting.

00:56:12.760 I'm hurting.

00:56:13.660 You are hurt.

00:56:14.100 I'm so ashamed.

00:56:15.140 You are humiliated.

00:56:16.540 Should I tell you something?

00:56:17.360 People are looking at you.

00:56:18.240 You're absolutely embarrassed, brother.

00:56:19.480 Yeah.

00:56:19.780 You got finished.

00:56:20.660 Sure, sure, sure.

00:56:21.460 I got finished.

00:56:22.460 You're finished.

00:56:22.800 So, Alidab, getting back to the topic.

00:56:24.960 Getting back to the topic.

00:56:26.400 We talked about the debate.

00:56:28.200 You deflected from the debate.

00:56:29.540 You agreed to answer my five questions.

00:56:33.220 You are not keeping up that agreement.

00:56:35.080 Obviously, you are breaking your agreement right now.

00:56:37.140 No, I didn't.

00:56:37.640 Aren't you?

00:56:38.040 I never stuck to it.

00:56:38.660 You know what?

00:56:38.900 Let me show you.

00:56:39.640 Let me show you the evidence.

00:56:40.280 No, you explicitly.

00:56:42.000 Is this you?

00:56:43.000 Is this you?

00:56:43.360 I can share my screen.

00:56:44.360 No, one second.

00:56:45.600 I can share my screen.

00:56:46.660 You explicitly agreed to it.

00:56:48.120 Share your screen.

00:56:48.540 You explicitly agreed to it.

00:56:49.780 Watch this.

00:56:50.280 Yeah.

00:56:50.720 Okay, sure.

00:56:52.860 Okay, one second.

00:56:54.980 I've got a screenshot here, guys.

00:56:56.360 And I'm going to show you guys as well.

00:56:59.360 Okay.

00:57:01.120 Okay.

00:57:01.560 So, there you go.

00:57:02.400 So, he goes to me.

00:57:03.280 Yeah, you have to say yes to all three of them.

00:57:06.840 That's how this goes.

00:57:07.780 And then we can meet tomorrow at 8 p.m.

00:57:09.920 Then I said, now I don't agree to none of them.

00:57:13.600 After you, I said, I agree to the five questions.

00:57:16.060 And you're not being muted.

00:57:17.540 And then you said, no, you have to agree to the third one that we don't call you a puss.

00:57:20.880 Yeah.

00:57:20.980 Because you're a little a puss.

00:57:21.840 Yeah.

00:57:22.040 And then I said, you know what?

00:57:23.240 I don't agree to none of them now.

00:57:25.220 I revoked it.

00:57:26.360 Yeah.

00:57:26.880 Been revoked.

00:57:28.000 And the evidence is there.

00:57:29.200 Okay.

00:57:29.720 So, let's go to another issue.

00:57:32.440 Yeah.

00:57:32.840 Which is.

00:57:34.600 Oh, yeah.

00:57:35.260 So, okay.

00:57:35.720 One-sidedly, you apparently said in the middle of it.

00:57:37.860 Is this contingent?

00:57:38.160 Now, I don't agree to one of them.

00:57:39.320 Okay.

00:57:39.460 Is this contingent?

00:57:39.900 So, you did agree to two conditions.

00:57:42.480 Do you know what contingent means now?

00:57:42.660 And then you just backed out of it, right?

00:57:44.020 Do you know what contingent means now?

00:57:45.240 I don't care about you.

00:57:46.020 I don't care about your dumb questions.

00:57:46.660 Do you know what contingent means?

00:57:47.460 No, I'm asking you.

00:57:47.840 I don't care about your dumb questions.

00:57:48.880 Do you want to get back to our actual agreement or not?

00:57:51.560 No, we want to agree.

00:57:52.240 When agreement is done.

00:57:52.960 Look, Mubahal is done.

00:57:53.680 So, you challenged me to a debate, agreed to have the debate in America.

00:58:02.440 You're finished.

00:58:03.780 You're finished, boy.

00:58:05.620 You're finished.

00:58:06.220 Now, contingency.

00:58:07.500 So, you agreed to, you offered a debate in America, and then you backed out of it due to your own mistake,

00:58:15.400 and you say that is nobody's fault.

00:58:17.760 It is your fault, isn't it?

00:58:19.120 Why do you challenge me to a debate, and then you don't go through with it?

00:58:21.760 Why do you not want to have a debate, Adi Dawah?

00:58:24.380 Why is it my fault that you want to do it in person, even your own audience?

00:58:28.700 Look, everybody, Muslim listeners, I said to him, make a poll to your own followers and ask them if an online debate should take place or not.

00:58:37.960 He didn't want to do it because he knows that even his own audience, and I have screenshots, tons of them, will say, do it, do it.

00:58:44.420 Please, Adi Dawah, you're embarrassing us.

00:58:46.180 I mean, I have messages here that say, you're embarrassing us, Muslims.

00:58:49.340 They want this to happen, but you are backing out of it and making dumb excuses.

00:58:53.980 Offering a face-to-face challenge in America, then backing out of it because you apparently didn't know that you need a vaccine.

00:58:59.300 This is all your fault.

00:59:00.740 Why will you not simply agree to an online debate?

00:59:03.380 You have wasted over an hour here with me.

00:59:06.720 No, I haven't.

00:59:07.220 But you cannot agree to a debate.

00:59:11.000 What is this about?

00:59:12.240 Mohammed Hijab did the same thing.

00:59:13.400 He said, I will not do an online debate.

00:59:14.980 Then he sat down with me for two hours.

00:59:16.640 What is wrong with you people?

00:59:18.200 What's wrong with an online debate?

00:59:19.500 You're too lethal, man.

00:59:20.660 Why will you not do an online debate?

00:59:21.900 Yeah, you know, like, if you've spoken, okay, thank you, yeah?

00:59:24.660 Why will you not do an online debate?

00:59:25.760 Let's just answer the question.

00:59:26.620 Start reflecting through different things.

00:59:27.420 One second, one second.

00:59:28.100 I'll let you speak.

00:59:28.720 I'll let you speak.

00:59:29.120 I'll try my best not to cut you because I don't want to make excuses.

00:59:31.240 They cut me.

00:59:31.680 They muted me.

00:59:32.440 I'm not like you muting me.

00:59:33.280 Yeah, fantastic.

00:59:33.400 We've been doing that the entire time.

00:59:35.240 Let's go through your reputation, yeah?

00:59:37.060 Have I ever, I've had face-to-face debates.

00:59:40.120 Have you ever had a face-to-face debate in your life?

00:59:42.380 No, I haven't.

00:59:43.160 Okay, let's add another note to that.

00:59:44.660 Bloody, there's too many of us.

00:59:45.360 I don't know where to get it.

00:59:45.860 Did you ever have moderated debates?

00:59:47.240 No.

00:59:47.860 No, no, I have.

00:59:48.220 Did you ever have moderated debates?

00:59:49.420 I had moderated debates, but not in a building.

00:59:50.520 No, you didn't.

00:59:51.080 Not in a building.

00:59:51.420 No, no, I have.

00:59:52.400 You've never had moderated debates.

00:59:53.640 Show me.

00:59:53.940 Not organized events.

00:59:55.440 No, I have, but not in that context.

00:59:56.880 When did you have a moderated debate?

00:59:58.420 Who was it?

00:59:58.920 No, no, no.

00:59:59.460 I did, but not in a closed place.

01:00:01.360 Okay, give me an example.

01:00:02.480 Give me an example.

01:00:03.300 For example, speaker's corner, somebody speaks, I speak.

01:00:05.720 They speak, I speak.

01:00:06.740 But not in the way, like you said, in a building.

01:00:08.360 Do you think that's what a moderated debate is?

01:00:10.540 No, no.

01:00:10.980 Somebody moderating it, but not in a building.

01:00:13.340 That's what I'm saying.

01:00:14.400 Yeah?

01:00:14.720 Okay.

01:00:14.880 That makes no sense.

01:00:16.200 Now, let me ask you something.

01:00:17.140 Have I ever been defeated in a debate the way you have and unlisted the video?

01:00:22.540 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:00:24.620 I had never, I never unlisted a debate video.

01:00:26.580 I never unlisted a debate video.

01:00:28.600 Mohammed Hijab.

01:00:29.640 I had a, I had a, I had a discussion with Daniel Kikicu, which, which escalated, in which

01:00:35.020 he said it wasn't a, it wasn't a debate.

01:00:37.540 He said it was, he himself said it was a discussion.

01:00:40.120 I later unlisted it because he attacked me.

01:00:42.180 It's not unlisted.

01:00:43.040 It's public right now.

01:00:44.100 It's public right now.

01:00:44.880 It's not unlisted.

01:00:45.820 Not now.

01:00:46.860 Is it still unlisted now?

01:00:48.320 It's not unlisted.

01:00:49.200 Now it's not unlisted.

01:00:50.140 So he put it back on.

01:00:50.460 I unlisted it for a time.

01:00:52.600 Why did you make unlisted?

01:00:53.940 Well, for several different reasons.

01:00:55.560 Number one, Daniel Kikicu said we would have a debate in the future because that was not

01:00:58.800 a debate, as he explicitly says on the stream.

01:01:01.260 Later, he turned away from that.

01:01:03.460 Secondly, because he personally insulted me and sent his whole army against me.

01:01:07.820 I said, hey, if you want to conduct yourself like that, I'm not up for that.

01:01:10.940 That's it.

01:01:11.500 And the third reason was, as I said, he said we would revisit a debate and he did not do

01:01:18.500 it because he wanted to stick to that.

01:01:20.100 And I said, hey, I will not give you free publicity.

01:01:22.240 I unlist this for now.

01:01:23.840 Later, I listed it again.

01:01:25.320 That's it.

01:01:26.060 And what exactly did he prove during that debate, during that discussion or debate,

01:01:29.580 whatever it is?

01:01:30.160 What do you think he did in that discussion?

01:01:34.600 If you call it a debate, okay, what do you think he did?

01:01:38.280 What was his great point against me, for example?

01:01:40.220 He made you accept the point of slavery?

01:01:42.820 I accepted that prior to him.

01:01:44.860 I accepted that prior to him.

01:01:46.580 I already said before the conversation with him.

01:01:48.760 Bro, look, we got smashed, yeah?

01:01:50.100 Now tell me, do I have any debate where I have...

01:01:52.540 Explain it to me.

01:01:53.540 Explain it to me.

01:01:54.380 No, since you make claims about how I got destroyed, explain it to me.

01:01:58.080 What was the point that destroyed me?

01:02:00.000 Listen to me.

01:02:00.520 There was none...

01:02:01.380 Explain it to me.

01:02:02.440 I'm explaining.

01:02:03.340 I don't care who there was.

01:02:05.340 Explain to me.

01:02:06.120 What was the point?

01:02:07.180 You got annihilated.

01:02:08.720 Okay, on what?

01:02:09.680 Can you give me any example of my debate, any face-to-face debate I had, that I had to

01:02:13.660 unlist the video?

01:02:16.520 I didn't have a debate where I unlisted the video.

01:02:18.800 Did I have any debate face-to-face?

01:02:20.000 I already explained it.

01:02:20.900 I'm asking about myself.

01:02:21.780 I have no idea.

01:02:22.640 I don't follow your debates.

01:02:23.000 I'm asking about myself.

01:02:24.080 I don't follow your videos the way you follow mine.

01:02:26.440 I'm not a fan of you.

01:02:27.160 You are a fan of mine.

01:02:27.860 Listen first.

01:02:28.440 Lauren Southern.

01:02:29.140 Answer my question.

01:02:30.000 Answer my question.

01:02:31.160 None of them uploaded the video, I had to upload it.

01:02:33.400 Bruv, have I ever been defeated by a 17-year-old boy?

01:02:36.600 I don't know.

01:02:37.060 I'm not a fan of you.

01:02:37.780 You're a fan of mine.

01:02:38.660 I don't follow your stuff.

01:02:39.480 We know who's a fan of you.

01:02:40.580 Answer my question.

01:02:41.400 Since you say I have been destroyed, which I don't care about, please tell me the points.

01:02:45.760 Tell me the arguments on which I have been destroyed.

01:02:47.780 Come on.

01:02:48.080 You know what?

01:02:48.420 Do you want to debate atheism and Islam?

01:02:50.240 Tell me the arguments.

01:02:51.280 Do you want to debate atheism and Islam?

01:02:52.080 Tell me the arguments.

01:02:52.920 Do you want to debate atheism and Islam?

01:02:53.960 Tell me the arguments which destroyed my position.

01:02:55.700 Do you want to debate atheism and Islam?

01:02:55.940 Sam, I will debate now the contingency argument right now.

01:02:58.920 Let's go.

01:02:59.840 No.

01:03:00.220 Let's go.

01:03:01.140 Is this contingent?

01:03:02.380 Do you know what it means?

01:03:02.860 Yes, it is.

01:03:03.420 Yes, it is.

01:03:04.120 It's contingent.

01:03:04.980 Okay.

01:03:05.260 It's dependent, yeah?

01:03:06.260 Relatively, according to the argument, yes, it is.

01:03:07.940 Is it dependent?

01:03:08.780 Yes, sure.

01:03:09.280 Can it be any other way?

01:03:11.020 It could be, yes.

01:03:12.100 Okay, good.

01:03:12.920 Okay, so it's independent.

01:03:13.880 It could be any other way.

01:03:14.560 It's contingent.

01:03:15.080 Okay.

01:03:15.580 Okay, go ahead.

01:03:16.720 Let's do this.

01:03:17.300 Okay, one second.

01:03:17.880 Do you accept that there is existence?

01:03:21.160 Yes.

01:03:21.800 Thank you.

01:03:22.520 Okay, there's three kinds of existence.

01:03:24.140 Yeah?

01:03:24.480 Okay.

01:03:25.160 There is impossible existence.

01:03:27.120 There is possible existence.

01:03:28.220 And there's necessary existence.

01:03:29.660 Impossible existence is a triangle circle.

01:03:31.600 Triangle circle, one second.

01:03:32.660 It's a triangle circle, yeah?

01:03:33.520 You're going to need to do that water.

01:03:34.660 I know you're getting nervous.

01:03:36.040 I know you're getting nervous.

01:03:37.160 You're going to get finished, boy.

01:03:38.000 Stop, just go with the point.

01:03:39.520 Man, I'm going to be your worst nightmare.

01:03:40.980 You're going to have nightmares about me all night.

01:03:41.900 Yeah, sure, sure.

01:03:42.700 Go ahead.

01:03:43.200 Yeah?

01:03:43.400 Go ahead.

01:03:43.680 Come on.

01:03:43.980 Okay.

01:03:44.760 A triangle circle is an impossible existence.

01:03:47.460 It cannot exist.

01:03:48.520 So we have two things left.

01:03:51.320 Possible existence and necessary existence.

01:03:53.900 Yeah.

01:03:54.160 That's correct.

01:03:54.740 Yeah, okay.

01:03:55.820 Now, do you know what contingent is?

01:03:58.380 Do you know the criteria for contingency?

01:04:00.120 What contingent thing is?

01:04:01.380 We just went through that.

01:04:02.460 Why do you...

01:04:02.840 Okay, let's go for it one more time.

01:04:03.760 Make your arguments.

01:04:04.720 Make your arguments.

01:04:05.500 No, no, what is it?

01:04:05.920 What is it?

01:04:06.200 Let's go for it again.

01:04:07.240 That's not how you make an argument.

01:04:08.360 You are supposed to make your argument instead of asking you questions.

01:04:10.200 No, no, no.

01:04:10.300 I'm asking you.

01:04:10.760 Do you know what contingent...

01:04:11.640 What's the criteria?

01:04:12.200 You're supposed to make your argument, not ask me questions.

01:04:14.240 Say, I don't know.

01:04:15.020 Just make your goddamn argument.

01:04:16.340 Say, I don't know.

01:04:17.000 I just told you the answer.

01:04:18.380 No, no, no.

01:04:18.800 I'm your teacher.

01:04:19.340 I just gave you the answer.

01:04:20.680 I'm your teacher.

01:04:21.280 I'm your teacher.

01:04:21.440 I'm your teacher.

01:04:21.460 I just gave you the answer.

01:04:22.280 Just make your argument.

01:04:22.960 Stop being a child.

01:04:23.660 I have to ask you.

01:04:24.280 I'm teaching a lesson.

01:04:24.960 You have to know.

01:04:25.360 I need to see if you're...

01:04:26.300 You're my student.

01:04:26.880 Okay?

01:04:27.240 You are so goddamn childish.

01:04:29.360 Make your point.

01:04:30.100 Stop asking questions.

01:04:31.140 Okay?

01:04:31.300 It cannot be any other way.

01:04:32.720 Okay?

01:04:33.240 It requires something else for its own existence.

01:04:35.800 Okay.

01:04:36.380 Can you have an infinite regress of dependent things?

01:04:41.620 It's not something we can know.

01:04:43.240 You could say...

01:04:43.860 You could argue that it is something that doesn't exist.

01:04:46.260 You could argue that it does exist.

01:04:47.360 People are actually split on that.

01:04:49.300 Even the guy himself who talked to me is split on the definition of infinite and on actual infinites.

01:04:55.240 And not actual infinites.

01:04:56.660 Do you know what that means?

01:04:57.600 You probably don't know what that means.

01:04:58.420 Actual infinite doesn't exist in the real world.

01:05:00.400 There is potential infinite.

01:05:01.440 But actual infinite doesn't exist in the real world.

01:05:03.340 If I had infinite amount of...

01:05:05.060 Do you think the 17-year-old debater from a few days ago agrees with you?

01:05:08.320 Listen, listen.

01:05:08.860 I don't know.

01:05:09.540 Do you think he agrees with you?

01:05:10.400 That's not an issue here.

01:05:11.080 I'm saying to you.

01:05:11.920 If I have infinite...

01:05:12.640 Why?

01:05:13.040 Listen, listen.

01:05:13.460 He says it can't exist.

01:05:15.360 I'm giving an analogy.

01:05:15.960 He says it can't exist.

01:05:16.940 Stop clicking.

01:05:17.320 I can hear you click.

01:05:18.160 I know you're going Google.

01:05:18.880 I'm not clicking.

01:05:19.340 Don't go on Google.

01:05:19.920 Don't try it.

01:05:20.400 He says it can't exist.

01:05:21.200 Give your hands in the air.

01:05:21.620 Get to your point.

01:05:22.420 Get to the argument.

01:05:23.000 Stop making dumb questions.

01:05:23.720 Please stop you.

01:05:24.280 Keep your hands.

01:05:25.100 Yeah, you don't want to go to Google.

01:05:26.120 Okay.

01:05:26.540 Now, I'm asking your question.

01:05:28.480 Get to your argument.

01:05:29.280 Come on.

01:05:29.460 I am getting to my argument.

01:05:30.340 Okay.

01:05:31.100 So, I'm saying to you that you can...

01:05:33.500 Can you have infinite in the real world?

01:05:35.740 No.

01:05:36.080 If I had infinite...

01:05:36.740 If there was infinite amount of apuses, may Allah protect us, and I slapped two, and

01:05:40.100 they...

01:05:40.420 And it died.

01:05:41.040 Okay.

01:05:41.540 How many apuses are there?

01:05:44.320 Keep making your arguments.

01:05:45.360 Come on.

01:05:45.800 No, I'm asking your question.

01:05:47.240 Make your argument.

01:05:48.180 That's my argument.

01:05:48.760 You don't ask questions.

01:05:51.100 You make an argument.

01:05:51.520 Infinite doesn't exist in the real world.

01:05:52.680 Have you never read an actual argument?

01:05:56.600 Infinite doesn't exist in the real world.

01:05:58.000 So, therefore, I'm telling you...

01:05:58.720 Have you never made an actual argument?

01:05:59.980 Make your argument.

01:06:00.660 Stop asking questions.

01:06:01.760 Okay.

01:06:02.120 Can there be an infinite...

01:06:04.060 Are you dumb?

01:06:05.520 You are asking me a question again.

01:06:08.020 Make your argument.

01:06:08.920 Stop asking me questions.

01:06:09.860 Come on.

01:06:10.080 I'm asking you questions.

01:06:10.500 This is tedious.

01:06:11.460 Can there be infinite amount of dependent things?

01:06:14.320 I don't know.

01:06:14.660 Make your argument.

01:06:15.440 Stop asking me questions.

01:06:16.240 This is not how it works.

01:06:16.840 Can there be an infinite amount of dependent things?

01:06:18.360 Could be.

01:06:18.880 I don't know.

01:06:19.740 No.

01:06:20.240 Dependent.

01:06:20.660 No.

01:06:20.960 No.

01:06:21.520 Dependent.

01:06:21.960 No.

01:06:22.440 Sorry.

01:06:22.740 Dependent.

01:06:23.100 No.

01:06:23.840 I just said no.

01:06:24.860 I misspoke.

01:06:25.560 I misspoke.

01:06:26.080 I said no.

01:06:26.920 Okay.

01:06:27.460 Dependent.

01:06:27.980 No.

01:06:28.560 Therefore, you require a necessary being for all those dependent things to fall back

01:06:33.900 on.

01:06:34.240 Now, what's the condition for a necessary being?

01:06:36.040 Do you know?

01:06:36.920 Go ahead.

01:06:37.700 You don't know.

01:06:38.160 No.

01:06:38.360 Say, I don't know.

01:06:39.640 Just go ahead and make your argument.

01:06:40.940 Say, Ali, I don't know.

01:06:43.420 Go ahead.

01:06:43.920 Make your argument.

01:06:44.820 Ali, teacher, please tell me.

01:06:46.520 Teacher, please tell me.

01:06:47.360 Now, let me tell you.

01:06:48.060 You're a bad student.

01:06:49.280 Yeah, you get great F.

01:06:49.720 I've never talked to a more normal person.

01:06:51.000 Make your goddamn arguments.

01:06:52.140 Come on.

01:06:52.600 Get to the point.

01:06:54.080 Fail.

01:06:54.600 You failed.

01:06:55.640 You're finished.

01:06:57.220 A necessary being is a being that is independent, self-sufficient, cannot be composed by parts

01:07:03.420 or cannot be any other way.

01:07:05.060 According to which principle?

01:07:06.540 According to what standard is that?

01:07:07.860 According to what standard is that the definition of a necessary being?

01:07:10.280 The logical principles.

01:07:11.920 We use our logic.

01:07:13.840 A logical principle under what standard, by what definition?

01:07:19.840 Is that the definition of a necessary being?

01:07:21.500 Explain it to me, please.

01:07:22.700 Okay, one second.

01:07:23.280 Explain it to me, please.

01:07:24.340 Why is that the definition of a necessary being?

01:07:26.240 Explain it to me.

01:07:26.600 Contingent things is what?

01:07:28.400 Dependent.

01:07:29.460 It requires something else for its own existence.

01:07:31.620 It's composed by parts and can be any other way.

01:07:33.560 So which follows that a necessary being has to be the opposite?

01:07:36.500 Because the necessary being is opposite of a dependent thing.

01:07:39.100 So now you tell me.

01:07:40.040 Can we have a sea without a seabed?

01:07:42.720 Give me the answer.

01:07:47.260 Wow.

01:07:47.700 Okay.

01:07:48.020 We need to do ABC here.

01:07:49.340 No, you can't.

01:07:49.800 Do you think I don't know the answer?

01:07:51.120 I'm telling you.

01:07:52.180 Use your brain.

01:07:52.480 I have been telling you for 10 minutes now to make your arguments.

01:07:55.140 Use your brain.

01:07:56.200 Use your brain.

01:07:57.320 How could you have sea without a seabed?

01:07:58.980 Just make your argument, man.

01:08:00.480 Stop talking.

01:08:01.280 Just make your argument.

01:08:02.060 Come on.

01:08:02.400 You're not even engaging.

01:08:03.560 You know why?

01:08:03.900 Because you know you got slapped up.

01:08:05.940 You look like you're going to cry.

01:08:07.260 Okay.

01:08:07.840 I doubt it.

01:08:08.120 You look like you're going to cry.

01:08:08.820 Are you done with the arguments?

01:08:10.340 Are you done with the arguments?

01:08:11.700 Are you done with the arguments?

01:08:13.500 You have.

01:08:13.840 Yes, I'm done with the argument.

01:08:14.800 Can you rebuke it?

01:08:15.880 Rebuke it.

01:08:16.000 Okay.

01:08:16.380 Okay.

01:08:16.700 Of course I can rebuke it.

01:08:18.160 Yeah, sure.

01:08:18.400 Go on.

01:08:18.600 Based on what exactly is God the necessary being?

01:08:22.780 Explain it to me.

01:08:26.660 Again, King Cream in here.

01:08:27.960 Don't be jealous.

01:08:29.500 Based on what exactly is God the necessary being?

01:08:31.920 MashaAllah.

01:08:32.440 Sorry?

01:08:33.420 Based on what is God the necessary being?

01:08:36.000 Click, click, click.

01:08:37.760 Once again, I said to you, we have dependent things.

01:08:41.480 We require something that's independent.

01:08:42.820 Based on what is God the necessary being?

01:08:45.160 Answer my question.

01:08:45.520 No, no, no.

01:08:46.020 I never said it.

01:08:46.580 Wait, wait.

01:08:46.880 One second.

01:08:47.280 I didn't go to God yet.

01:08:48.360 I'm trying to move you from atheism to deism.

01:08:50.760 I haven't even gone to that yet.

01:08:51.980 I didn't say that.

01:08:52.520 Did I say anything about God?

01:08:54.140 I didn't say anything about God.

01:08:55.660 Yeah?

01:08:55.800 Okay.

01:08:55.980 So you keep clicking.

01:08:56.720 Your teacher is not going to help you.

01:08:58.120 Okay.

01:08:58.340 Yeah?

01:08:58.660 Okay.

01:08:58.880 You're finished.

01:08:59.660 You're finished.

01:09:01.000 Okay.

01:09:03.100 What is the necessary being?

01:09:04.960 The necessary being could be anything.

01:09:06.200 What is the necessary being?

01:09:07.080 Come on.

01:09:07.220 Make your argument.

01:09:08.000 Good.

01:09:08.400 So do you accept that there's a necessary being?

01:09:10.720 Depends on what you would define, what you mean by necessary being.

01:09:13.020 Okay.

01:09:13.200 Necessary being is a being that is independent.

01:09:14.160 It could be that existence itself is a necessary being.

01:09:16.100 It could be that energy is a necessary being.

01:09:17.620 No, no.

01:09:17.780 It's independent.

01:09:17.940 It's self-sufficient.

01:09:18.980 It's not composed of...

01:09:19.320 Okay.

01:09:19.660 I'm giving you a response to your stupid question.

01:09:23.000 A necessary being could be...

01:09:24.200 You got an answer.

01:09:25.440 You child.

01:09:26.620 A necessary being could be anything.

01:09:28.180 It could be energy.

01:09:29.420 It could be prior to the Big Bang, a perfect balance of energy.

01:09:34.500 By the way, you probably don't even know what the Big Bang is.

01:09:36.180 A perfect balance of energy.

01:09:37.720 It could be a multiverse.

01:09:40.720 It could be a multiverse which exists.

01:09:42.640 It could be a hierarchy of deities that is combined by a circle that forms a necessary

01:09:49.840 being.

01:09:50.340 What is a necessary being?

01:09:51.520 You need to define that.

01:09:52.560 In order to explain to me that a necessary being proves the existence of God, you need

01:09:57.260 to first answer to me why you think a necessary being must exist in all worlds and why you

01:10:02.960 think that fits the criteria of a God that you believe in.

01:10:06.000 But of course, you can't do that because you don't even know what you're talking about.

01:10:08.920 Because you can't even tell me why a necessary being has this definition.

01:10:12.260 You don't even know the name of the argument which you're proposing.

01:10:14.940 Are you finished?

01:10:16.940 Yes.

01:10:17.500 Because you are finished in a minute.

01:10:19.540 Listen.

01:10:20.600 Universe, multiverse, superverse, super Marioverse, energy, menegy, denegy, whatever you want

01:10:26.100 to call it.

01:10:27.000 They all are infinitely rely on the necessary beings.

01:10:31.860 False.

01:10:32.440 Yes.

01:10:32.760 Now one second.

01:10:33.320 Let me listen to you.

01:10:33.960 False.

01:10:34.280 Listen to me.

01:10:34.640 Okay.

01:10:34.780 I'll listen to you.

01:10:35.140 Listen to me.

01:10:35.580 Yeah.

01:10:35.960 Okay.

01:10:37.120 Just to be charitable, I'm having this to show how ignorant you are.

01:10:40.720 I don't even try to travel to the US.

01:10:42.180 Anyway, I don't want to go into the argument.

01:10:44.700 Let's just go into the argument.

01:10:45.580 Okay.

01:10:45.900 Oh, wow.

01:10:47.340 Wow.

01:10:47.720 Now.

01:10:48.120 I know.

01:10:48.800 Check this out now.

01:10:50.080 Does, okay.

01:10:50.700 One second.

01:10:50.860 Now he's waking up.

01:10:51.920 He doesn't want to do it.

01:10:52.660 Ad hominems.

01:10:53.200 Okay.

01:10:53.420 Does energy have consciousness?

01:10:57.900 As far as we know, not.

01:10:59.540 Does it have a will?

01:11:01.100 As far as we know, not.

01:11:02.760 No.

01:11:03.360 Does it have intelligence?

01:11:04.600 As far as we know, not.

01:11:08.580 No.

01:11:09.300 It was your finish, man.

01:11:10.320 My gosh.

01:11:10.800 This was amazing.

01:11:11.600 Okay.

01:11:12.140 Okay.

01:11:12.560 How does energy give rise to beings like us who have consciousness, who have will, and

01:11:18.640 who have intelligence?

01:11:19.440 Sorry?

01:11:19.780 I don't know.

01:11:20.480 I don't know.

01:11:20.860 And that's what Allah says in the Quran.

01:11:22.460 If you ask them.

01:11:23.540 You can't have a deserve.

01:11:24.340 You know what they will say?

01:11:25.440 Okay.

01:11:25.800 I don't know.

01:11:26.880 I don't know.

01:11:27.600 Okay.

01:11:27.720 Okay.

01:11:27.880 This is enough for me to believe.

01:11:29.140 Wallahi.

01:11:29.640 Look at you.

01:11:30.260 You're such a jahid.

01:11:31.040 You know what an atheist is?

01:11:31.960 It's like coming outside my door and saying, get out, get out, get out.

01:11:34.240 Okay.

01:11:34.660 Are you done?

01:11:35.400 Are you done?

01:11:36.560 I don't know.

01:11:37.020 Are you done?

01:11:37.760 Are you done?

01:11:39.000 So, you couldn't answer it.

01:11:40.140 Are you done?

01:11:40.820 Stop being verbose.

01:11:42.060 Are you done?

01:11:42.640 Are you done?

01:11:43.300 You ignorant.

01:11:43.520 Ignoramus.

01:11:44.120 Are you done?

01:11:44.660 You ignorant.

01:11:46.020 You just accepted.

01:11:46.720 Okay.

01:11:47.240 Where in your argument for a necessary being, where in your argument for a necessary being

01:11:53.120 is the condition for...

01:11:54.560 Who has intelligence, who has conscience and has a will.

01:11:56.460 Oh, my God.

01:11:56.880 I swear to God.

01:11:57.380 How many ministers have you got?

01:11:58.360 Ali.

01:11:59.160 Don't go anywhere.

01:12:00.200 Don't go anywhere.

01:12:00.700 Don't go anywhere.

01:12:00.780 Don't go anywhere.

01:12:02.780 Where in your argument, where in your argument, where in your argument is the requirement that

01:12:07.440 this is a conscious being?

01:12:08.760 Don't raise your voice at me.

01:12:10.640 Where in your argument is the, is the requirement that this is a conscious being?

01:12:13.800 You're intellectually trashed.

01:12:15.720 Adi Dawa.

01:12:16.140 You submit it.

01:12:16.680 Everybody sees what a dumb child you are.

01:12:18.460 Of course, but you're deluded, bro.

01:12:19.960 Engage with your argument.

01:12:20.980 I'm happy.

01:12:21.400 I'm happy.

01:12:21.860 You're giving me, you're giving me the argument.

01:12:24.240 Are you going to let me speak?

01:12:25.460 Okay, speak.

01:12:25.880 You're making an argument from contingency, and then you appeal to God with arguments that

01:12:32.500 are completely outside the argument in order to say that this is the necessary being.

01:12:36.340 So you're using completely different arguments to make your point.

01:12:39.480 Where exactly in your initial argument, was it a requirement for a necessary being to

01:12:45.220 be conscious, to have a person, to be a, a, a thing that moves, to have an intellect?

01:12:50.160 Where exactly was that?

01:12:52.300 And how exactly can you prove that that is necessary in order to bring life into existence?

01:12:58.700 Do you have research papers for that?

01:13:00.300 Go ahead.

01:13:00.640 Prove it to me.

01:13:01.120 Come on.

01:13:03.260 I know you are a stupid child.

01:13:04.700 Go ahead.

01:13:05.220 Engage with the argument instead of talking nonsense.

01:13:07.680 Come on.

01:13:09.020 Okay.

01:13:09.620 Go ahead.

01:13:10.640 Go ahead.

01:13:11.680 Go ahead.

01:13:12.400 Come on.

01:13:12.820 Okay.

01:13:13.860 Okay.

01:13:14.360 Okay.

01:13:14.480 Go ahead.

01:13:14.880 So the question you asked was.

01:13:16.540 Did you make notes?

01:13:17.580 Did I?

01:13:18.060 No, no, no.

01:13:18.420 I don't know.

01:13:18.960 It's for you.

01:13:19.300 For you.

01:13:20.400 The only note I have.

01:13:20.700 Come on.

01:13:20.960 Answer the question.

01:13:22.100 The F.

01:13:22.740 The F I want to give you.

01:13:23.520 That's the only note I have.

01:13:24.300 Answer the question.

01:13:25.160 Come on.

01:13:25.260 I'm asking the question.

01:13:25.940 Yeah?

01:13:26.560 Okay.

01:13:27.460 What was the question?

01:13:28.260 Ask again?

01:13:30.900 Sorry.

01:13:31.340 Ask again.

01:13:31.820 Ask again.

01:13:32.460 Ask again.

01:13:32.980 Ask again.

01:13:33.560 Where in your original argument was it required that it is a person and conscience?

01:13:39.420 Secondly, can you prove or can you present proper evidence that a person or a conscious

01:13:46.280 being is required for life or for consciousness to come into existence?

01:13:50.460 Okay, good.

01:13:51.220 Firstly, do you?

01:13:52.120 Go ahead.

01:13:52.500 Look, look.

01:13:52.880 I firstly never said that that is a personal being.

01:13:55.540 I'm telling you, I haven't even moved there yet.

01:13:58.400 Do you accept a necessary being?

01:14:00.240 If you say yes, from there, then I can prove to you why that is a personal God who has consciousness

01:14:05.980 and has a will, an erada.

01:14:08.420 I haven't even gone there yet.

01:14:09.740 I'm saying, do you accept a necessary being exist?

01:14:12.840 I just talked to you about how it could be energy and you asked me questions about energy,

01:14:17.120 about the quantities of energy.

01:14:19.340 No, no, no.

01:14:19.620 You know why that answers my question.

01:14:20.900 Let me tell you why.

01:14:21.420 You gave the issue of energy.

01:14:22.740 Okay.

01:14:23.340 Okay.

01:14:23.720 I have to mute you for a second.

01:14:25.740 You have no idea what you're talking about.

01:14:27.260 You have no idea what you're talking about.

01:14:28.400 You mute me.

01:14:28.600 Don't worry.

01:14:28.920 I've got it on my channel.

01:14:29.680 Don't worry about that.

01:14:30.560 Okay.

01:14:30.760 Okay.

01:14:30.900 You have no idea what you're talking about.

01:14:32.140 I just brought up energy.

01:14:34.600 You, as a response, said energy doesn't have a personality.

01:14:37.820 What did you say to me?

01:14:38.440 And then you say, I never said about personality.

01:14:40.380 One second, one second.

01:14:41.000 You said to me, how can this personal being have consciousness?

01:14:42.880 You're such an idiot.

01:14:43.700 Yeah.

01:14:44.060 Okay.

01:14:44.380 Yeah.

01:14:44.580 Go ahead.

01:14:44.700 I said to you, does energy have consciousness?

01:14:46.200 No.

01:14:46.520 Does it have a will?

01:14:47.200 No.

01:14:47.700 Does it have intelligence?

01:14:48.820 No.

01:14:49.480 Therefore, it cannot give rise to something like us who has intelligence, who has consciousness

01:14:54.340 and has a will.

01:14:54.780 Okay.

01:14:55.060 Because if it doesn't, let me finish.

01:14:56.520 If it doesn't have that innate properties that-

01:14:59.380 Do you let me finish every time?

01:15:00.580 No, you don't.

01:15:01.120 No, but I haven't finished.

01:15:01.740 Let me finish my point.

01:15:02.360 I'll listen to you.

01:15:03.180 Let me finish my point.

01:15:03.880 Okay.

01:15:04.040 Don't get angry.

01:15:04.840 It's not my fault.

01:15:05.340 Don't ignore this.

01:15:06.500 Don't blame me.

01:15:07.100 Don't get angry at me.

01:15:08.040 Yeah.

01:15:08.280 We totally see that right now.

01:15:09.740 We totally see that right now.

01:15:11.060 So let me finish.

01:15:11.820 So what I'm saying is, if you're telling me energy is a possibility, energy has no consciousness,

01:15:16.380 it has no will, and it has no intelligence.

01:15:18.440 So therefore, when I'm talking about a necessary being, it requires for him to have, there has

01:15:22.960 to be, he has to be the all-knowing.

01:15:24.500 He has to have some kind of an existence.

01:15:26.880 He has to exist, but not the way we exist.

01:15:28.700 Okay.

01:15:28.980 And he has to have a will to give rise to us.

01:15:32.200 You fool?

01:15:33.160 Are you done?

01:15:33.720 No, no.

01:15:34.240 Okay.

01:15:34.680 So you just said, you just said that you never made such a condition.

01:15:38.540 You just said that you never have such, never made such a condition, which is why I brought

01:15:43.000 up energy as a possible necessary existence upon which you said it can't be energy because

01:15:48.900 energy doesn't have a consciousness, doesn't have intellect, and doesn't have a will.

01:15:52.780 So it is part of your argument, and you used it in order to refute me, that energy cannot

01:15:59.120 be the necessary being because it doesn't have a personality, it doesn't have a will,

01:16:03.120 it doesn't have a consciousness.

01:16:03.800 And then you appeal to God because God has a consciousness, has a personality, has a being.

01:16:09.620 And your reasoning for that is that something without a personality, without consciousness,

01:16:14.800 cannot bring consciousness into existence.

01:16:16.340 You are a complete idiot.

01:16:17.680 You are a complete idiot.

01:16:20.300 Where was that requirement in your argument for a necessary being?

01:16:23.220 You are such a moron.

01:16:26.360 Thank you.

01:16:26.920 Thank you.

01:16:27.320 Thank you.

01:16:27.680 Okay.

01:16:28.180 Perfect presentation.

01:16:29.460 Everybody knows.

01:16:30.160 He said you are so brilliant.

01:16:31.200 Thank you.

01:16:31.440 So intelligent.

01:16:32.240 It's all right.

01:16:32.480 It's all right.

01:16:32.860 It's all right.

01:16:33.140 We're educating you.

01:16:33.900 No problem.

01:16:34.460 So let me get this right.

01:16:35.140 Sure.

01:16:35.420 Go ahead.

01:16:35.660 You are such an absolute moron.

01:16:38.780 He accepts a necessary being because you can't run out of it.

01:16:40.940 You had to accept a necessary being.

01:16:42.380 Okay.

01:16:42.920 Then you came and asked me the question.

01:16:43.760 I hypothesized with it.

01:16:45.240 One second.

01:16:45.680 No, no, no.

01:16:46.060 You first tried to escape it.

01:16:47.520 Yeah.

01:16:47.880 You know that you have no other way but to accept a necessary being.

01:16:51.440 No, I hypothesized.

01:16:52.760 That's how philosophy works.

01:16:54.120 Even your friends will tell you that.

01:16:55.280 You're getting slapped up, bro.

01:16:56.060 You're getting slapped up.

01:16:56.600 I'm hypothesizing with possibilities.

01:16:58.360 That's how it works.

01:16:58.800 Let me talk.

01:16:59.100 Let me talk.

01:16:59.520 Let me talk.

01:16:59.880 Okay.

01:17:00.040 I listen to you.

01:17:00.620 Okay.

01:17:01.300 People are watching.

01:17:02.160 Okay.

01:17:02.460 Alhamdulillah.

01:17:02.880 People are watching.

01:17:03.360 Now, we talked about necessary being.

01:17:05.820 I gave you the conditions for a necessary being.

01:17:07.540 And then you said to me, how is he personal?

01:17:09.800 How does it mean he has consciousness?

01:17:11.480 And then you mentioned energy.

01:17:13.500 I said to you, if you believe energy that has no consciousness, no will, no intelligence,

01:17:21.020 that can give rise to us.

01:17:22.360 So something that doesn't have the innate properties that we have, yeah, and that can give rise to us.

01:17:28.080 But a personal being, a necessary being, who is independent, self-sufficient, not composed of parts, cannot be any other way.

01:17:35.600 Him having consciousness and a will and a intelligence, knowledge, impossible.

01:17:41.440 You are a retard.

01:17:43.100 You are the stupidest guy I've made in my life.

01:17:45.820 Okay.

01:17:45.860 Do you have psychological issues?

01:17:47.400 Did you define, earlier you defined, and you're getting destroyed.

01:17:54.040 Bob, I'm having mercy on you.

01:17:55.800 Are you that dumb?

01:17:56.800 How could you go live?

01:17:57.540 It's like me, uploading a video where somebody knocked me out.

01:18:00.620 I'm just so dumb.

01:18:01.360 Check this video out.

01:18:02.320 Aledawa, earlier when you defined a necessary being, did you define this necessary being as a being that must have a consciousness and an intellectual?

01:18:09.980 No, I didn't.

01:18:10.920 No, you did not.

01:18:11.920 No, you did not.

01:18:12.440 Okay, okay, number one, number one, that is bad.

01:18:15.900 But then you try to refute, but then you try to refute the energy point by saying it can't be energy because it doesn't have a will.

01:18:25.480 Okay, fine.

01:18:26.980 Although that is completely stupid, it has nothing to do with the argument.

01:18:29.480 I accept that as a proposition and then ask you, can you show me, can you demonstrate to me that a will, a person, a personality is required in order to bring beings or conscious beings into existence?

01:18:43.380 Can you demonstrate that to me?

01:18:44.440 Then you say, no, no, no, no, no.

01:18:45.840 Let's get back to the argument.

01:18:47.160 I'm asking you a simple question.

01:18:48.420 Can you demonstrate that to me?

01:18:49.900 Can you demonstrate to me that you must have a conscious personal being in order to bring life into existence, in order for life to exist?

01:18:58.120 How can you do that based on what evidence?

01:19:00.720 You've asked me.

01:19:02.040 Listen to me carefully.

01:19:03.640 Because genuinely, bro, I don't even want to call you bro.

01:19:06.240 Stop with the insults.

01:19:07.240 Just give me the answer.

01:19:08.620 Apus.

01:19:09.120 I am.

01:19:09.500 I am.

01:19:09.780 I'm just saying you're looking stupid.

01:19:11.640 Listen to what I'm saying carefully.

01:19:13.200 You said, why can that not be energy?

01:19:15.320 I see it right here.

01:19:15.900 Everyone is laughing at you.

01:19:16.940 Listen to me.

01:19:17.420 You said, why can that not be energy?

01:19:19.860 Okay.

01:19:20.760 I want to give you an example.

01:19:21.940 Is there an empty glass cup?

01:19:23.720 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:24.380 I'm asking this simple question.

01:19:25.540 Okay.

01:19:25.940 You said to me, it can be energy.

01:19:27.700 Okay.

01:19:29.180 If it does not, if this does not have the properties, the properties to make a strawberry milkshake,

01:19:36.880 yeah, to say, to say, if it doesn't have those elements, it cannot give rise to it.

01:19:42.580 It doesn't have it innately.

01:19:44.680 You're telling me.

01:19:45.880 Do you know what energy is?

01:19:47.080 No, let me finish.

01:19:48.400 How do you think the Big Bang is explained?

01:19:50.400 How do you think the existence of the first thing is explained?

01:19:53.720 Listen to me.

01:19:54.500 Listen to me.

01:19:55.380 What do you think?

01:19:56.580 Do you think the Big Bang comes out of nothing?

01:19:59.000 Listen to me.

01:19:59.760 I'm saying to you, you said to me, it can be energy.

01:20:02.280 Look, even that scumbag, Rottenwood, refuted you.

01:20:04.840 Yeah.

01:20:05.140 You guys had a little debate.

01:20:06.200 He even, he refuted you.

01:20:07.620 Listen to me carefully.

01:20:08.500 You said it can be energy.

01:20:09.660 Okay.

01:20:09.860 I said to you, does energy have consciousness?

01:20:11.480 No, we never did.

01:20:12.200 You said no.

01:20:13.300 Does it have a will?

01:20:14.260 You said no.

01:20:15.260 Does it have intelligence?

01:20:16.220 You said no.

01:20:17.620 First of all, I said, as far as we, as far as we know.

01:20:20.140 I know you're cutting me because you're hurt.

01:20:21.280 Let me finish.

01:20:21.880 Yeah.

01:20:22.520 Energy that doesn't have these properties, characteristics we have gave rise to us.

01:20:28.080 Meaning it doesn't have it innately, but spontaneously we have consciousness and intelligence.

01:20:32.700 It develops.

01:20:33.120 One second.

01:20:33.760 Yeah, it develops.

01:20:34.260 But you are the same guy that says a necessary being cannot be, have existence, consciousness,

01:20:42.900 have a will and be.

01:20:44.940 When did I say that?

01:20:46.060 One second.

01:20:46.580 When did I say that?

01:20:48.100 When did I say that?

01:20:49.520 You did.

01:20:49.940 Because you're saying, how does that, how did it give rise to us?

01:20:52.640 How does that make sense?

01:20:53.280 That's what you're saying.

01:20:54.180 Are you dumb?

01:20:55.200 Are you stupid?

01:20:56.000 Because I'm asking you, how do you know this is God?

01:21:00.000 That means I say it cannot be a conscious being.

01:21:02.440 Are you completely stupid?

01:21:04.080 Wait, when did I say that?

01:21:05.040 Are you dumb, man?

01:21:06.120 Painting, painting.

01:21:06.960 I need to demonstrate.

01:21:07.760 I need to do ABC with ABC.

01:21:08.660 When did I ever say that?

01:21:09.740 Can you show me where I said that?

01:21:11.300 Can you tell me how you came to that conclusion?

01:21:13.060 Okay, guys.

01:21:13.960 No, you just made a claim.

01:21:16.260 How did I come to that conclusion?

01:21:18.360 Let me demonstrate it to you, yeah?

01:21:19.120 Yeah, I'm speaking.

01:21:19.860 How do you come to the conclusion?

01:21:20.560 Let me finish.

01:21:21.100 Let me finish.

01:21:21.840 When did I say, when did I say it can't be a personal being?

01:21:26.040 Okay, that's what you said.

01:21:28.020 No, I didn't.

01:21:28.640 When did I say that?

01:21:29.460 Okay, clarify.

01:21:29.860 I asked you how you can demonstrate that it is your God.

01:21:34.820 That's all I said.

01:21:35.800 I haven't even, when did I say to you, that is Allah?

01:21:39.780 When did I even mention God to you?

01:21:41.980 I said to you, is there a necessary being?

01:21:44.060 You said to me, it can be energy.

01:21:46.220 It can be this.

01:21:47.360 And they all negate what?

01:21:48.920 Because I said, it cannot be any other way.

01:21:50.760 It cannot be composed of parts.

01:21:52.060 Energy is composed of parts.

01:21:53.260 Multiverse is composed of parts.

01:21:54.500 It's dependent.

01:21:55.360 It's not independent.

01:21:56.440 Yeah, and then you brought forth to me a requirement that it must be a personal, willful being,

01:22:02.140 which is a requirement that you made up of thin air.

01:22:04.300 Listen, I listen to you, listen to me.

01:22:06.540 I'm teaching you here.

01:22:07.540 Just be humble and say, Ali, I don't know the contingency argument.

01:22:11.020 I'm learning.

01:22:11.840 Ali, I have actually read books about this and taken classes.

01:22:15.160 Did you go to university?

01:22:16.260 Shut up, Bob.

01:22:16.900 Did you go to university?

01:22:18.340 Bob, Jake, you messaged Jake and said,

01:22:20.280 Did you take a university class in psychology and philosophy?

01:22:23.140 I'm sorry for not engaging with the argument.

01:22:23.840 When you were going to Jake and saying,

01:22:25.380 Jake, you know, I'm sorry I didn't engage with the argument.

01:22:27.980 Now, I'm saying to you the following.

01:22:29.860 Let me speak.

01:22:30.420 Let me make my case.

01:22:31.380 Stop interrupting me.

01:22:32.640 Yeah?

01:22:32.880 I have actually read books about this stuff.

01:22:35.400 You know your fans.

01:22:35.720 Yeah, I'm getting smashed.

01:22:36.620 I'm getting smashed.

01:22:37.080 This is what your fans are doing.

01:22:38.980 Yeah.

01:22:39.220 That's what they're doing.

01:22:39.760 Sure.

01:22:40.200 They are laughing at you right now.

01:22:41.560 Look into my laugh chat.

01:22:43.400 It's full with laughter here right now.

01:22:44.960 Yes, yes, yes.

01:22:46.140 It's full with laughter.

01:22:47.140 Should I share my screen?

01:22:47.980 No problem.

01:22:48.260 No problem.

01:22:48.540 That's fine.

01:22:48.900 That's fine.

01:22:49.440 Let me ask you a simple question.

01:22:50.360 Okay.

01:22:50.460 Now, you said to me, I never mentioned God.

01:22:53.860 I never mentioned Allah.

01:22:55.320 I didn't mention none of that.

01:22:56.520 I'm saying necessary being.

01:22:58.000 When did I ever mention Allah?

01:22:59.400 When did I ever mention God?

01:23:00.520 I never.

01:23:01.640 I said, do you accept?

01:23:02.880 The point is, I said, even if there was a necessary being, how do you conclude that it's God?

01:23:07.280 A necessary being can be energy.

01:23:09.460 And I said, no, because it can be any other way.

01:23:13.500 It's composed of parts.

01:23:14.520 It's dependent.

01:23:15.400 It requires something else for its own existence.

01:23:17.600 Is that part of the argument for a necessary being?

01:23:19.620 It's not.

01:23:19.920 No, you're not understanding.

01:23:20.980 I'm telling you.

01:23:22.020 No, I'm understanding very clearly.

01:23:23.960 Is that part of the argument for a necessary being?

01:23:26.240 It's not.

01:23:26.620 That's why you don't let me talk.

01:23:27.260 It's not.

01:23:27.720 Your butt hurt.

01:23:28.560 Your butt hurt.

01:23:29.860 Sure.

01:23:30.080 Let me ask you a simple question.

01:23:31.240 Since you are so confident, Ali.

01:23:32.320 Can I speak now?

01:23:34.680 Can I speak now?

01:23:35.140 No, you didn't let me.

01:23:35.520 You cut me out.

01:23:35.860 Can I speak now?

01:23:36.380 Excuse me.

01:23:36.780 Excuse me.

01:23:37.100 You cut me out.

01:23:37.780 Let me.

01:23:38.100 I let you speak for the most of the time.

01:23:39.940 Can I speak now, please?

01:23:40.500 I didn't even finish my points.

01:23:41.880 Okay, sure.

01:23:42.420 Go ahead.

01:23:42.780 Go ahead.

01:23:43.080 Finish.

01:23:43.480 Finish.

01:23:43.740 Come on.

01:23:43.960 I never mentioned Allah or God.

01:23:46.260 I mentioned necessary being.

01:23:47.600 I said, do we accept as necessary being?

01:23:49.540 And then I said to you, the conditions for that.

01:23:52.040 You said to me, energy, multiverse.

01:23:54.620 And I said, no, it cannot be.

01:23:55.600 And I gave you my examples.

01:23:56.660 Then you came and said, how is that Allah?

01:23:58.160 How is that God?

01:23:58.760 I didn't even mention it.

01:24:00.180 Now, if you accept necessary being, then say to me, Ali, okay, necessary being, how

01:24:04.800 do you, how can you prove that is Allah?

01:24:06.200 Then I will say, okay.

01:24:10.160 Are you done?

01:24:11.180 Yes.

01:24:12.580 Apparently, you're stupid enough to remember that I very clearly said, assuming that it

01:24:16.420 is a necessary being, how would you conclude that this is Allah?

01:24:18.860 I'm not assuming.

01:24:19.340 So I actually did exactly what you now tell me I should have done.

01:24:25.260 And then you come back with such a response.

01:24:26.960 I mean, you are such a moron.

01:24:28.480 It's unbelievable.

01:24:29.860 But since we are, since you are so confident about this, and since people are seeing what

01:24:33.900 an idiot you are concerning theological discussions, I mean, go watch some debates, do something,

01:24:38.680 please.

01:24:39.680 But since you are so confident, let me ask you a few questions, Adedawa.

01:24:43.080 Since you want to be an educator and a teacher on these complex topics, where you don't even

01:24:48.420 understand the terms that you're talking about.

01:24:50.940 First question and second question.

01:24:53.340 First question is, how many books have you read about arguments for theism or atheism?

01:24:59.340 Second question, did you take any university class, which includes philosophy?

01:25:06.400 Go ahead.

01:25:07.480 It's got nothing to do with the discussion.

01:25:09.780 Please go.

01:25:10.240 Please go ahead and answer the question.

01:25:11.520 Zero.

01:25:11.840 You ask a lot of things that have nothing to do with our discussion.

01:25:17.340 I'm just asking something here.

01:25:18.420 Because you can't even answer.

01:25:19.280 You know what's bad.

01:25:19.820 Okay.

01:25:19.980 How many books have you read?

01:25:21.700 I just answered my question.

01:25:22.760 Come on.

01:25:22.960 Okay.

01:25:23.200 Okay.

01:25:23.460 I've read.

01:25:23.760 Okay.

01:25:23.980 No problem.

01:25:24.460 I've read.

01:25:25.100 Argument's sake.

01:25:25.620 No books.

01:25:26.200 And I went to no university.

01:25:27.340 Argument's sake.

01:25:28.040 Okay.

01:25:28.400 How many have you done?

01:25:29.560 Okay.

01:25:29.720 How many have you done?

01:25:30.420 That's not for arguments.

01:25:31.300 It's the reality.

01:25:32.320 It's the reality.

01:25:32.740 How many have you done?

01:25:33.560 It's the reality.

01:25:34.300 Okay.

01:25:34.480 Okay.

01:25:34.740 Okay.

01:25:34.980 Reality.

01:25:35.340 How many have you done?

01:25:35.840 I have read quite many books on theology and philosophy.

01:25:41.220 I have taken certain online certificates, online courses, inofficial courses.

01:25:46.280 And I also took undergraduate courses in two fields of philosophy.

01:25:52.620 Okay.

01:25:52.740 And you want to talk about how you are my teacher without having done anything.

01:25:56.720 Let me get this right.

01:25:57.520 I'm somebody, argument's sake, I read no books.

01:26:00.220 I have no university degrees.

01:26:01.640 It's not argument's sake.

01:26:02.440 It's reality.

01:26:03.140 I'm going to give it to Apos.

01:26:04.220 He's read many books.

01:26:06.560 Yeah, I have.

01:26:07.320 He's got teachers.

01:26:08.060 And he's getting smashed by someone like me.

01:26:10.780 I'm reading one right now.

01:26:12.320 I'm reading one right now.

01:26:13.220 It's Robin Laporteven, Arguing for Atheism.

01:26:15.880 Exactly.

01:26:16.200 An Introduction to the Philosophy of Religion.

01:26:18.320 Have you ever heard of something like this?

01:26:20.160 You're reading books.

01:26:21.280 I haven't.

01:26:21.900 Argument's sake, yeah?

01:26:22.740 Buy something like this.

01:26:23.680 You're reading smash by me.

01:26:24.200 Now let's go back to the topic.

01:26:24.440 Buy something like this and then try to argue.

01:26:26.560 So, now tell me.

01:26:27.900 Do you accept the necessary being now after you got refuted?

01:26:30.740 You're already done with this topic.

01:26:31.940 You have demonstrated what a complete idiot you are about this topic.

01:26:34.220 No, we haven't.

01:26:34.940 You're naughty, naughty.

01:26:35.880 We're done with this.

01:26:37.300 People are laughing at your ignorance right now.

01:26:38.600 Don't try, Apos.

01:26:39.760 Nah, we haven't finished.

01:26:41.400 We haven't finished.

01:26:42.120 You know what you should do?

01:26:43.700 You should take this section.

01:26:45.380 You should take this section and publish it and say, ignorant atheist destroyed by knowledgeable Muslim.

01:26:52.040 Publish that section, please.

01:26:53.240 It will be amazing.

01:26:54.300 It's going to be great.

01:26:55.760 It's going to be great.

01:26:56.540 No problem.

01:26:56.980 I've got no worry with that.

01:26:58.440 It's going to be great.

01:26:59.820 Publish it.

01:27:00.860 Say, ex-Muslim atheist destroyed on God.

01:27:03.280 No books.

01:27:03.980 Educated by Muslim.

01:27:05.020 Okay.

01:27:05.800 Somebody who's read books and apparently has teachers, yeah?

01:27:08.600 He's running away from a debate.

01:27:10.240 Again, do you accept the necessary being?

01:27:12.660 We already talked about that.

01:27:13.880 We already talked about that.

01:27:14.740 We're done with that.

01:27:15.500 Let's come to my questions.

01:27:17.780 Do you accept the necessary being?

01:27:18.980 We're already done with that.

01:27:19.820 Let's come to my questions.

01:27:20.660 Come on.

01:27:21.320 Let's come to my questions.

01:27:22.620 Let's come to my questions.

01:27:23.680 Come on.

01:27:24.260 Depends on how you define necessary being.

01:27:26.320 That's the reason why you cannot face the face.

01:27:28.040 Come on.

01:27:28.400 Let's come to my questions.

01:27:29.900 Adedawa.

01:27:30.660 Adedawa.

01:27:31.140 Bailing out again.

01:27:31.940 Where does the sun go at night?

01:27:35.320 Where does the sun go at night?

01:27:36.560 Nearly two hours.

01:27:37.940 Muhammad says in the Sahih Hadith that the sun goes somewhere at night.

01:27:41.500 Where does it go?

01:27:42.260 You're finished, Bob.

01:27:43.540 You are finished.

01:27:44.600 I cannot believe it.

01:27:45.240 You've left the debate.

01:27:46.040 You're like, I've read so many books and I have teacher's degrees.

01:27:48.740 Ali, you have none and I'm running away from debate.

01:27:50.780 You coward.

01:27:51.800 You're a miscellaneous.

01:27:52.040 You know what?

01:27:53.080 Sit down with Muhammad Hijab.

01:27:55.080 Sit down with Muhammad Hijab and review this conversation and let him clap for you.

01:27:58.520 What kind of instability is this?

01:27:59.280 You're running away from an argument we're having.

01:28:01.320 You coward.

01:28:02.000 You're showing me books of atheism and you're running away.

01:28:05.400 Okay.

01:28:05.620 Are you done?

01:28:06.180 Are you done?

01:28:06.700 Are you done with your answer?

01:28:08.620 Are you done with your answer?

01:28:09.500 We already talked about that.

01:28:10.340 I already gave you your answer.

01:28:11.380 No, no, you didn't.

01:28:11.740 You ran away.

01:28:12.680 You ran away.

01:28:13.780 Possibly.

01:28:14.320 Okay.

01:28:14.960 Possibly.

01:28:15.340 That's what I said.

01:28:16.200 Okay.

01:28:16.400 We're done with this.

01:28:17.120 We're done with this.

01:28:17.880 Okay.

01:28:18.080 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:28:19.440 We're done with this.

01:28:20.940 We are done with this.

01:28:22.180 We are done with this.

01:28:23.100 We are not having a debate.

01:28:25.080 We are not having a debate.

01:28:27.320 We are not having a debate.

01:28:28.780 I said to you, I will debate you on this topic.

01:28:30.740 Stop chatting nonsense, Bob.

01:28:31.560 we're not having a debate

01:28:33.360 we're not having a debate

01:28:35.880 people are messaging me

01:28:36.880 they're watching

01:28:37.420 they're laughing the head off at you

01:28:38.420 oh really

01:28:39.080 yeah I believe you

01:28:40.240 totally show me

01:28:40.720 do you accept a necessary being

01:28:41.460 you said possible

01:28:42.300 is it possible

01:28:43.200 is it possible

01:28:44.420 okay good

01:28:45.360 so therefore you accept

01:28:46.620 that there's a necessary being

01:28:47.580 okay good

01:28:48.400 now that means

01:28:49.840 that's a criteria

01:28:50.620 for us

01:28:51.440 that there is a creator

01:28:52.720 why

01:28:53.000 because if you accept

01:28:54.020 a necessary being

01:28:54.700 you need to acknowledge

01:28:55.720 that he has to have a will

01:28:56.940 possible

01:28:57.660 can a necessary being

01:28:58.580 I said possible

01:28:59.420 I didn't say yes

01:29:00.140 don't try those words

01:29:01.240 you're finished

01:29:01.880 the atheist community

01:29:02.960 are going to divorce you

01:29:03.740 free tala

01:29:04.360 you're finished

01:29:06.000 they're going to divorce you

01:29:07.140 they're laughing at you right now

01:29:08.500 come on

01:29:09.200 okay so

01:29:09.880 if you accept a necessary being

01:29:11.060 we're done with this

01:29:12.180 nobody is interested

01:29:13.200 in this conversation

01:29:13.940 come on

01:29:14.400 the necessary being

01:29:15.300 has to have intelligence

01:29:16.840 right

01:29:17.260 yes or no

01:29:18.020 no

01:29:18.340 why not

01:29:19.060 because it's not part of

01:29:20.960 a definition of a necessary being

01:29:22.320 very simple

01:29:22.820 excuse me

01:29:24.040 it's not part of the definition

01:29:25.760 of a necessary being

01:29:26.600 quite simple

01:29:27.060 we're making it personal now

01:29:28.680 okay

01:29:29.260 depending on what

01:29:31.220 is there intelligence

01:29:32.140 is there knowledge

01:29:32.720 in the universe

01:29:33.320 uh sure it is

01:29:35.420 yeah

01:29:35.580 okay

01:29:35.980 how does

01:29:37.480 a necessary being

01:29:39.200 give rise to

01:29:40.380 the dependent things

01:29:41.780 contingent things

01:29:42.680 but has no knowledge

01:29:43.900 how

01:29:44.340 it's something that we

01:29:46.380 uh

01:29:47.020 philosophize

01:29:48.060 and research

01:29:48.960 and learn

01:29:49.740 and further find out

01:29:50.660 how does it come into existence

01:29:52.140 according to you

01:29:52.760 do you have research papers

01:29:53.640 on this

01:29:54.100 what an answer

01:29:54.960 oh my

01:29:55.480 do you have research papers

01:29:56.180 on this

01:29:56.480 can you give me some evidence

01:29:57.260 you might as well say

01:29:59.100 I like banana

01:29:59.860 orange

01:30:00.360 and milkshake

01:30:01.220 what kind of answer is that

01:30:02.060 you don't know

01:30:02.600 what a research paper is right

01:30:03.620 what kind of a stupid answer is that

01:30:04.660 I'm asking you

01:30:05.720 it's a scientific answer actually

01:30:07.740 very simple

01:30:08.140 to be honest

01:30:09.640 April

01:30:10.320 I'm asking you yeah

01:30:11.400 how does

01:30:12.620 in the

01:30:13.460 what is

01:30:13.860 what is a research paper

01:30:15.040 I have never heard of such a thing

01:30:16.320 there is knowledge

01:30:17.020 is a research paper a banana

01:30:18.560 can you eat that

01:30:19.420 one second

01:30:19.760 how does an intelligence

01:30:20.800 look

01:30:21.040 there's knowledge in the universe

01:30:22.440 it's intelligence yeah

01:30:23.160 how does the necessary being

01:30:25.040 not have knowledge

01:30:25.660 I don't know

01:30:26.060 I don't know

01:30:26.800 how does it

01:30:27.780 how does it

01:30:28.360 again

01:30:28.620 I don't know

01:30:29.680 Allah talks about it in the Quran

01:30:30.560 I don't know

01:30:31.140 I don't know

01:30:31.360 I don't know

01:30:34.200 I don't know

01:30:34.620 how does it

01:30:35.540 show it to me

01:30:36.140 show it to me

01:30:36.940 how does it

01:30:37.500 how does it

01:30:38.400 how does it

01:30:39.240 come into existence

01:30:39.700 show it to me

01:30:40.280 give me research

01:30:40.920 come on

01:30:41.180 what do you mean show it to me

01:30:42.720 give me research

01:30:44.500 give me evidence

01:30:45.080 can you see your consciousness

01:30:45.880 dude

01:30:47.800 answer my question

01:30:49.400 show it to me

01:30:50.240 I'm answering it

01:30:50.540 how do you prove

01:30:51.360 your argument

01:30:51.860 I believe you have no brain

01:30:53.580 I can actually show you my consciousness in terms of hooking things to my brain and showing you

01:30:59.180 activity, brain activity when I'm thinking, when I'm dreaming. Yes, yes. When two people dream

01:31:05.860 about similar things, they actually have brain activity that is very similar to each other.

01:31:08.860 Have you studied neuroscientific research? What is brain activity? Where do you think consciousness

01:31:16.680 works? Excuse me. Excuse me. Consciousness is something where's your mind? It's in your brain. Excuse me. You're an empiricist. Yeah. Okay. I'm telling you. Can you touch consciousness? I cannot touch it. No. Can you see it? I cannot see it. No. But I can experience it. And I can track it and visually represent it. No, that's not how it works. It's idiotic. You cannot taste any other things. Can you taste it? Make your case, man. Make your case. Can you taste it? Make your case, Adedawa. Make your goddamn case. You are an idiot.

01:31:46.680 Come on. Make your case. I can smell your BS. Can you hear it? No. Therefore, it doesn't exist. Yes, it does. There you go. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Because we can hook up because we can hook up two people because we can hook up two people to machines and can track their brain activities during them having a dream, having anxiety, having certain feelings. We can actually track their brain activities. We can see when it works. We can see when it stops working. We can see when it turns off when it turns

01:32:16.660 We can track all these things due to 21st century science and neuroscience, due to psychological research and neuroscience, something that Adedawa knows nothing about.

01:32:27.660 You cannot touch. You cannot smell. You cannot hear consciousness. Oh, really? Can you do the same with energy, for example? Can you do the same with all the energy that you have in your environment? Can you touch it all? Can you see it all? Can you define it all? Can you smell it all? Can you lick it and taste it all?

01:32:45.120 No, no, no. But that's my point. It's like dark matter. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what can you do? You can put it under a specific screen and track it, you idiot. That's how it works. This is science. This is science. I am asking you to demonstrate to me how consciousness has to be there in order to bring it into existence.

01:33:08.120 You're an absolute ignorant. What kind of a teacher? And you're studying these books?

01:33:11.140 Alidawa. Engage with the actual argument. Okay. Engage with the actual argument. Come on. Respond to me. Respond to me.

01:33:18.060 If there's a necessary being and it's independent...

01:33:19.320 Dude, do you want to have a discussion or not? Let me finish. I'm having a discussion, yeah?

01:33:22.440 Do you want to have a discussion or not? You have been talking forever and cutting me off. Will you let me talk or not?

01:33:26.960 I don't see I cut you off. Everyone can see...

01:33:28.620 Will you let me talk or not? Everyone can see that you don't let me talk. Will you let me talk or not?

01:33:32.560 I know you talk. You asked me a question about the necessary being personal. And I'm telling you. So let me talk. If you're asking me a question, let me answer.

01:33:37.380 Sure. So a necessary being, if it's independent, it gave rise to these dependent things. Does that not require will?

01:33:43.920 Can you prove it? Can you show me how that exactly works? Can you demonstrate it?

01:33:47.600 Okay, yeah. Okay. So there's dependent things. There's many dependent things in our universe.

01:33:53.220 The independent necessary being has to have a will. It has to will it because they're dependent on what?

01:33:58.500 It can't be infinite amount of dependent things. They require the necessary being to give rise to it.

01:34:03.920 So the necessary being requires a will to will it.

01:34:08.600 The will has nothing to do with it being a necessary being. It is in no part, in no way part of the argument.

01:34:17.760 Well, what an answer.

01:34:18.600 The will of the originator is in no way part of the actual argument. Do you have somebody there who can actually help you with that? They will say the same thing. Whether that being has a will or not has nothing to do with the argument here at all.

01:34:35.340 You are talking about something you know nothing about. Open a book. Go to school. Stop driving your taxi. Go to college if you want to talk about these things. Educate yourself. Read a book. Open a book. Learn something about it. You're talking nonsense.

01:34:48.260 Whether a necessary being has a will or a consciousness or not has nothing to do at all with an argument from contingency or from a necessary being. That's not how it works at all.

01:34:59.820 And even your dear friends, your Sabor Ahmed or Mohamed Hijab. I could get William Lane Craig here. I could ask him to review this and he will laugh his ass off listening to your reasoning here.

01:35:09.380 Despite the fact that he agrees that there is a creator. You have no clue what you're talking about, you idiot. You have the IQ of a bird. Come to the actual discussion.

01:35:18.640 You are talking about things you know nothing about and embarrassing yourself while trying to humiliate me. And everybody is seeing it. People are laughing at you, man. You are so embarrassing. You are so damn embarrassing on this topic. You should stop it. Get back to Islam. Tell me where the sun goes at night. Tell me how Allah comes to the lowest heaven at night. Tell me how the sun and the moon chase each other all the time. Tell me how the moon will lose its light, which doesn't even have light.

01:35:45.980 Tell me why Mohamed said the sun goes at sunset to ask for permission to rise again. And one day it will not be given permission and go back to its resting place and rise from the west. Explain that to me. Where does the sun go? Talk about relevant things. Nobody cares about your idiotic, stupid understanding of theology. You are embarrassing yourself entirely. People are laughing at you. I know you're acting like you're completely cool right now. You're acting like you have really done something right now.

01:36:15.600 People are laughing at you, man. People are embarrassed of you. Muslims are watching and feel embarrassed with you. I have tons of messages of Muslims saying, Alidawa, please don't embarrass us. Please don't do this. I can prove it. I sent you messages yesterday. I sent Alidawa messages yesterday, at least 15 messages, 30 messages of Muslims saying, Alidawa, brother, please don't embarrass us. Please don't do this. You know this.

01:36:41.600 You know I told you this. You know I did that. And you know that you then turned off because you were uncomfortable by that. Isn't that right? Talk about things that you actually claim to know something about, like Islam, and answer to me where the sun goes at night. Come on. Let me know.

01:36:59.980 Finished?

01:37:00.300 Yeah, you are. Come on.

01:37:02.980 You let it all out. Ad hominem.

01:37:04.940 You are a dumb idiot. You have an IQ of 90 or 85 or something. I don't know. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. I am the one who's doing ad hominem. Come on. Answer the question. Where does the sun go at night?

01:37:14.420 Carry on.

01:37:15.140 Where does the sun go at night? Answer my question.

01:37:17.080 Nervousness, anxiety, embarrassment, humiliation.

01:37:20.560 I would say, in all honesty, I am frustrated by the fact that such an imbecile, like you, claims to have some knowledge.

01:37:28.620 Acceptance is a good step to recovery.

01:37:32.200 I accept that you are an imbecile, yes. Come on. Answer the question.

01:37:34.980 Pustilanimity, instability, yeah.

01:37:36.880 You can't even spell the word pusilanimous. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

01:37:39.860 I don't need to. I'm looking at it.

01:37:41.900 Oh, how intelligent. What a great comment.

01:37:45.340 You don't even know how to spell the word.

01:37:47.400 You want to brag about a word. You don't even know how to spell it.

01:37:49.580 Anyways, you're finished with the ad hominems.

01:37:51.300 How do you spell pusilanimous? Can you spell pusilanimous to us?

01:37:54.700 Let me get this right.

01:37:55.620 I've got the...

01:37:56.420 Yeah, of course. I am the one who says people should be killed for not believing in what I believe.

01:37:59.960 I listen to you. Let me finish, yeah? Okay.

01:38:01.460 Answer my question. Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:03.340 I listened to you. Let me finish.

01:38:04.920 Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:06.020 You had a tantrum. You went on a mad one.

01:38:07.900 Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:08.760 And I know when you get angry, you do this.

01:38:11.180 Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:12.380 What's this? Why do I keep doing this? I know you're uncomfortable.

01:38:15.180 Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:16.080 It's burning.

01:38:17.780 You don't even know what ad hominem means, which is what you're doing right now.

01:38:20.580 Come on.

01:38:20.840 And I love that.

01:38:21.920 Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:23.960 Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:25.300 That's why you're doing this. I know you. I know your body language.

01:38:27.100 Where does the sun go at night?

01:38:28.420 You start getting panicking. You start doing this.

01:38:30.220 Hey, do you know somebody named Elias?

01:38:32.600 Do you know Elias?

01:38:33.560 What does Elias mean?

01:38:35.100 Doesn't Elias mean my God is Yahweh?

01:38:38.340 Who is Yahweh?

01:38:39.340 Do you know about Yahweh?

01:38:40.140 He's become a Christian apologist.

01:38:41.220 The Bible?

01:38:43.720 Isn't Elias mentioned in the Quran?

01:38:45.540 Anyways, anyways.

01:38:46.360 Isn't Elias mentioned in the Quran?

01:38:47.880 I've listened to you. You've had your tantrum.

01:38:49.720 Can I speak?

01:38:50.060 Elias is mentioned in the Quran.

01:38:51.360 What does Elias mean?

01:38:52.080 It means Eliyahu.

01:38:53.320 I'm not talking to a Christian.

01:38:53.720 My God is Yahweh.

01:38:54.900 Who is Yahweh?

01:38:55.580 I'm talking to a fake ex-Muslim.

01:38:56.880 He doesn't know Mubahala.

01:38:57.980 You can't do Mubahala with an atheist.

01:38:59.340 You fool.

01:38:59.800 Oh yeah, I don't know Mubahala.

01:39:00.680 Anyways, anyway.

01:39:02.000 Where does the sun go at night?

01:39:03.180 I've listened to you. Let me talk.

01:39:04.260 Where does the sun go at night?

01:39:05.180 I'm not going to engage with your dumb arguments any further.

01:39:07.100 You made arguments.

01:39:07.960 I encourage you to engage with this argument.

01:39:11.060 Go ahead.

01:39:11.540 Where does the sun go at night?

01:39:12.560 Don't get angry.

01:39:13.500 Yeah?

01:39:14.100 Leave your bedroom and spend some time with your family.

01:39:15.120 As soon as I talk about something different, I will cut you off.

01:39:17.140 Leave your bedroom and spend some time with your family, you clown.

01:39:18.920 You're going to be depressed in your little house.

01:39:20.740 And you've got a keyboard.

01:39:22.160 Anyways, I said, and let me talk.

01:39:24.860 Okay.

01:39:25.660 Where does the sun go at night?

01:39:26.880 Let me speak, man.

01:39:27.760 Let me speak.

01:39:28.300 I know you are.

01:39:29.160 Don't talk about irrelevant things.

01:39:30.500 Answer my question.

01:39:31.180 I know, bruv.

01:39:31.440 People on Patreon are going to say, bruv, this guy is a liability to us.

01:39:35.140 Yeah, sure.

01:39:35.640 I'm seeing them right now.

01:39:36.340 This guy is the stupidest guy ever.

01:39:37.960 Anyway, shut the fuck up.

01:39:38.860 Where does the sun go at night?

01:39:39.940 That's my question.

01:39:40.780 Boy, you little boy, you're finished.

01:39:42.640 Where does the sun go at night?

01:39:43.900 Intellectually, I'm an Uber driver.

01:39:45.940 Alhamdulillah, I'm proud.

01:39:46.840 Earning a halal living.

01:39:47.900 Yeah?

01:39:48.280 Okay.

01:39:48.620 Maybe some of your followers are Uber drivers.

01:39:49.960 Yeah?

01:39:50.320 I'm an Uber driver who has IQ of a bird.

01:39:52.760 Okay.

01:39:53.120 I haven't got a degree, apparently.

01:39:54.560 I haven't read books.

01:39:55.460 But I smashed you.

01:39:57.040 Yeah.

01:39:57.260 You got smashed.

01:39:58.440 Where does the sun go at night?

01:39:59.700 You got smashed.

01:40:00.540 Mohammed says the sun goes to his resting place at night and comes back in the morning again.

01:40:04.600 I have to ask for permission.

01:40:05.620 Where does the sun go at night?

01:40:07.180 Have a will.

01:40:08.420 Where does the sun go at night?

01:40:09.540 That's my question.

01:40:10.740 Where does the sun go at night?

01:40:11.800 That's my question.

01:40:12.680 Would you marry off your little daughter at the age of six to a man who is 50 years old?

01:40:17.300 You're insecure.

01:40:18.160 I'm proud.

01:40:18.840 Proud.

01:40:19.040 Do you think this looks like insecure?

01:40:21.700 I'm talking to a pedophile worshiper.

01:40:23.760 What do you think?

01:40:24.260 Would you marry off your little daughter at the age of six to a perverted prophet at the age of 55?

01:40:31.560 Yes.

01:40:31.780 Would you do that?

01:40:32.860 Would you do that?

01:40:34.220 Now, does the necessary being come from...

01:40:35.820 Would you marry off your little daughter at the age of six to a man who is 55 years old?

01:40:40.540 Would you do that?

01:40:41.600 I'll smash you on that.

01:40:42.860 Would you do that?

01:40:43.260 I'm not going to let you go there.

01:40:44.260 Just answer my question.

01:40:45.520 Come on.

01:40:46.140 I don't care about your necessary being.

01:40:47.240 You have no clue what you're talking about.

01:40:48.360 Read a book about it.

01:40:49.920 Why are you quite scared?

01:40:50.500 Where does the sound go at night?

01:40:51.560 At least, at least, I don't agree that I will have intimacy with my own child.

01:40:56.120 I don't either.

01:40:57.600 I don't either.

01:40:58.000 At least, I don't believe that necrophilia is okay.

01:41:02.000 Demonstrate to me where did we agree that we would discuss your arguments today.

01:41:05.960 My own blood, my own child, my own family sent you a video to me.

01:41:09.180 When I said this to him, he wanted to vomit.

01:41:10.640 I said, this guy believes.

01:41:11.660 And I sent a video of Amin.

01:41:12.760 You saying there is nothing wrong with incest.

01:41:14.760 You said to me, if there is no harm, you will have intimacy with your own child, you disgusting person.

01:41:19.000 I never said that.

01:41:20.120 You are a filthy, disgusting person.

01:41:22.040 I never said that.

01:41:22.840 That's a lie.

01:41:23.980 I never said that.

01:41:24.740 That's a lie.

01:41:25.300 Actually, you can't look at you.

01:41:26.640 No, your prophet was a pedophile, a pervert.

01:41:28.180 Come on.

01:41:28.640 Is that true?

01:41:29.820 Where does the sun go at night?

01:41:31.000 If you don't want to talk normally, I will talk like this.

01:41:33.380 Where does the sun go at night?

01:41:35.120 I will slap you up.

01:41:35.820 We're going to meta-ethics.

01:41:36.900 Do you want to go to meta-ethics?

01:41:37.320 Where does the sun go at night?

01:41:38.820 I will slap you up, little boy.

01:41:40.520 You don't even know what meta-ethics...

01:41:42.060 What does meta-ethics mean?

01:41:43.220 You got smashed.

01:41:44.220 What is the etymology and the meaning of meta-ethics?

01:41:46.660 You got smashed, brother.

01:41:46.840 You got smashed.

01:41:47.940 What does meta-ethics mean?

01:41:49.140 You believe...

01:41:50.100 You should...

01:41:51.020 If I'm not saying you believe in the...

01:41:51.940 What does meta-ethics mean?

01:41:53.000 You believe in the error theory, which is what?

01:41:54.620 What is meta-ethics?

01:41:55.780 There is no good or there is no bad.

01:41:56.580 So stop chatting nonsense.

01:41:57.560 When did I ever say I believe in error theory?

01:41:59.640 When did I say I believe in error theory?

01:42:00.920 Listen, I don't know if you're going to go there.

01:42:01.940 Okay.

01:42:02.220 You make a lot of claims here.

01:42:03.400 You make a lot of claims.

01:42:04.640 You need to justify them.

01:42:05.460 Where did I ever say that?

01:42:06.200 Okay.

01:42:06.760 I know your position.

01:42:07.500 Okay.

01:42:07.960 I know your position.

01:42:08.220 No, you don't.

01:42:08.940 You just said I believe in error theory.

01:42:10.380 I never said that.

01:42:11.000 Where did I say that?

01:42:11.900 Listen, listen.

01:42:12.500 You said you do not believe in any good or bad.

01:42:13.880 I can go there and slap you up there as well.

01:42:15.120 That's not error.

01:42:16.140 That is not error theory.

01:42:17.320 No, no, no.

01:42:18.560 So another thing where you say you can educate me

01:42:21.600 and you have no idea what you're talking about.

01:42:22.960 There is no good.

01:42:23.300 Because you say...

01:42:24.080 There is no bad.

01:42:25.140 There is no good.

01:42:25.940 Is that necessarily error theory?

01:42:29.480 You fool.

01:42:30.300 You fool.

01:42:31.280 Okay.

01:42:31.800 Answer my question.

01:42:32.620 Answer my question.

01:42:33.440 Is that necessarily error theory?

01:42:35.260 You cannot come and say,

01:42:36.460 this is good.

01:42:37.220 This is bad.

01:42:37.980 You fool.

01:42:38.380 Even your friend David Wood said that to you.

01:42:40.120 Waste man.

01:42:40.460 He said to you,

01:42:41.000 how could you talk about the issue of Aisha's marriage

01:42:42.600 if you believe in that?

01:42:43.560 You retard.

01:42:44.620 You dumb.

01:42:45.080 Your own friend slap you up.

01:42:45.760 Can I ask you one question, Adi Dawo?

01:42:47.740 The thing that you had with him said to you...

01:42:48.760 Adi Dawo, can I ask you one question?

01:42:50.000 You can't mention Aisha's marriage to the prophet now anymore.

01:42:52.100 You fool.

01:42:52.860 Your own friend mocks you.

01:42:54.460 They call you apos.

01:42:55.260 They mock you apos.

01:42:56.480 And David Wood refuted you.

01:42:57.860 David Wood made a point for Islam.

01:42:59.960 He said,

01:43:00.160 how could you question Aisha's marriage

01:43:01.280 when you don't believe in that?

01:43:02.500 You fool.

01:43:02.940 Anyways.

01:43:03.720 Can the necessary being have a will?

01:43:05.560 Okay.

01:43:05.920 Since you made the argument,

01:43:07.940 since you made the claim,

01:43:10.000 if one says,

01:43:11.800 if somebody says there is no good and no evil,

01:43:14.200 does that mean they believe in error theory?

01:43:15.920 I'm done with this guy.

01:43:16.800 I'm done with that.

01:43:17.060 Oh yeah.

01:43:17.320 Well, you're a pussy.

01:43:18.140 You're running away right now.

01:43:19.220 Look at his face.

01:43:19.460 By your own words.

01:43:20.640 You call people pussy.

01:43:21.560 That's what you are.

01:43:22.600 Come on.

01:43:22.740 You can never actually discuss

01:43:27.400 the topic of Islam with me.

01:43:29.080 I don't care about you.

01:43:29.820 I rip up your code.

01:43:32.060 Muhammad was a pedophile

01:43:33.920 who married a little child

01:43:35.660 and penetrated her

01:43:37.200 when she was.

01:43:58.320 Oh, by the way,

01:43:59.220 talking about Quran,

01:44:00.140 do you know Surah Qaithar?

01:44:00.940 Do you know Surah Qaithar?

01:44:04.580 Can you recite Surah Qaithar?

01:44:06.520 Free lines.

01:44:07.240 Free lines.

01:44:07.760 A little child will know.

01:44:08.400 Do you know Surah Qaithar?

01:44:11.560 You coward.

01:44:12.800 You don't even know free verses of Quran.

01:44:14.480 You muted me, you idiot.

01:44:15.600 I'm trying to unmute myself.

01:44:16.580 What?

01:44:16.840 Okay.

01:44:17.340 Can you recite Surah Qaithar?

01:44:19.120 I'm not reciting anything.

01:44:21.140 Wasteman.

01:44:22.000 Wasteman.

01:44:22.160 I'm not reciting anything.

01:44:23.240 You're a waste man.

01:44:23.780 When did we agree to debate your topic?

01:44:25.900 You're a waste man.

01:44:26.120 Why do you not want to debate Islam?

01:44:27.200 You know what I call you?

01:44:28.220 A little yute.

01:44:30.020 You're a waste man.

01:44:30.980 Look, I'll open it for you.

01:44:31.960 You read it.

01:44:32.580 I don't care what...

01:44:33.380 I'll open it for you.

01:44:34.020 You read it.

01:44:34.280 I don't care what idiots like you call me.

01:44:35.300 You open it.

01:44:35.860 I'll read it.

01:44:36.420 Where does the sun go at night?

01:44:38.200 Does Allah come down

01:44:40.340 at the time of the night

01:44:41.840 to the lowest heaven

01:44:42.600 and say pray to me?

01:44:43.960 You're finished.

01:44:45.260 You're finished.

01:44:45.860 There we go.

01:44:46.520 Read this.

01:44:46.980 Read this.

01:44:47.880 Can you read it?

01:44:49.520 Read it.

01:44:49.880 Read it.

01:44:50.100 Read it.

01:44:51.180 Can you read it?

01:44:51.800 Can you bring it closer?

01:44:52.820 Where does the sun go at night?

01:44:54.140 Read it.

01:44:54.460 Read it.

01:44:54.660 I beg you.

01:44:55.080 Free lines.

01:44:55.560 Free lines.

01:44:56.160 Where does the sun go at night?

01:44:57.340 Okay, fine.

01:44:57.660 If he doesn't want to do it,

01:44:58.560 I will just do it myself here.

01:45:00.040 No, no.

01:45:00.280 Let me send it on Twitter.

01:45:01.080 I'm going to send it to you on Twitter.

01:45:02.020 Let me send it on Twitter.

01:45:02.760 One second.

01:45:03.420 If he doesn't want to engage with it,

01:45:04.520 I'll just do it here.

01:45:05.240 I'm going to send it on Twitter.

01:45:06.200 All right.

01:45:06.660 Sahih Bukhari 3199.

01:45:10.260 The prophet asked me at sunset,

01:45:11.940 do you know where the sun goes at the time of sunset?

01:45:14.560 I replied, Allah is an apostle no better.

01:45:17.160 He said, by the way, this is such an issue.

01:45:19.940 Fareed himself didn't want to respond to this argument.

01:45:22.980 He said, it goes and travels until it prostrates itself underneath the throne of Allah

01:45:27.660 and takes the permission to rise again.

01:45:29.880 And it is permitted.

01:45:31.040 And then it...

01:45:31.760 Okay, good.

01:45:32.420 So, guys, as you can see,

01:45:34.260 and I was going to travel to the US.

01:45:35.440 Well, alhamdulillah, Allah made it easy.

01:45:37.340 That I exposed this fool here.

01:45:38.980 Can you imagine?

01:45:39.820 I was going to go all the way there for this fool.

01:45:41.980 He ran away from the contingency argument.

01:45:43.960 He thought you can do Mubahala within 80s.

01:45:46.880 Okay?

01:45:47.600 This fool, this absolute ignoramus clown,

01:45:50.480 absolutely intellectually humiliated, guys.

01:45:53.000 Alhamdulillah, after Daniel smashed him,

01:45:56.560 hijab buried him,

01:45:58.200 Jake flipping intellectually brought him back and slapped him up again.

01:46:02.640 And then you had a little girl.

01:46:04.220 And then lastly, who did you have?

01:46:05.660 A 17-year-old boy, intelligent boy, mashaAllah.

01:46:07.960 And what did hijab say?

01:46:08.820 Hijab said, a smart, sharp, 16-year-old boy can deal with you.

01:46:13.500 And that's exactly what happened.

01:46:14.540 He was 17.

01:46:15.540 That's exactly what happened.

01:46:16.760 Brothers and sisters, wallahi, these people,

01:46:18.800 we deal with them like this.

01:46:19.880 Alhamdulillah.

01:46:20.460 You can see he couldn't engage with arguments.

01:46:22.620 Left, right, center.

01:46:23.540 He doesn't even know.

01:46:24.640 They're embarrassed by their own religion now.

01:46:27.100 Embarrassed by their own religion.

01:46:28.400 They can answer simple religions about their own religion.

01:46:31.500 They can't answer simple questions about their own religion.

01:46:34.940 Can't tell me why Muhammad made prophecies

01:46:36.960 that the world would end within a hundred years, but it didn't end.

01:46:39.920 Why Muhammad said, before this boy grows old, the end will come,

01:46:43.360 but it didn't happen.

01:46:44.600 Cannot tell me why Muhammad said,

01:46:48.560 I don't know, me and the Day of Judgment are like this,

01:46:50.680 but it didn't happen.

01:46:51.620 Cannot tell me why Muhammad said,

01:46:53.640 Allah comes down to the lowest heaven every night

01:46:56.420 and stays there until a certain time to listen to our prayers,

01:46:59.660 which does not work in a round earth as we know it right now.

01:47:03.500 Cannot tell me why Muhammad said,

01:47:05.140 the sun goes to a resting place at night.

01:47:07.060 Cannot tell me why Muhammad made prophecies

01:47:09.200 of Constantinople and of Rome being conquered,

01:47:12.680 and then the Day of Judgment being coming very soon.

01:47:15.060 Cannot tell me why Muhammad said,

01:47:16.900 that the Dajjal might be here now,

01:47:18.660 or that the Dajjal will be coming very soon,

01:47:21.380 and 2,000 years have passed.

01:47:22.940 They cannot tell any of these things.

01:47:24.480 They don't want to talk about these things

01:47:25.860 because they are embarrassed about their religion,

01:47:28.540 which is why this guy has to sit here and list insults

01:47:32.180 and discuss about theology when he doesn't even understand it.

01:47:35.200 I mean, have you listened to this guy's contingency argument?

01:47:38.540 It is the dumbest thing that I've ever heard.

01:47:40.520 He doesn't know what he's talking about.

01:47:42.540 He admits to never having read a book on this topic

01:47:45.260 and wants to educate people who actually talk about these things

01:47:47.820 and actually read about these things

01:47:49.280 and, you know, discuss about these things.

01:47:51.180 It is so stupid.

01:47:53.620 It's very clear from here why this guy did not want to have a debate,

01:47:58.100 which is why he made this setup.

01:48:00.580 He is not willing to have a debate,

01:48:02.220 but he's willing to sit here with me for two hours

01:48:04.600 and just insult me for no proper reason,

01:48:07.760 while also advocating for killing me and apostates like me

01:48:12.080 in his ideal Islamic state

01:48:13.880 and then saying that people like me have blood on our hands.

01:48:17.500 And even if I asked him today,

01:48:19.180 Ali Dawah, if you are brave enough, answer this question.

01:48:21.720 If you could turn the UK into an Islamic state

01:48:23.940 where people should be executed for apostasy,

01:48:26.720 would you do it, yes or no?

01:48:29.640 Are you finished the tantrum?

01:48:30.940 Yes, would you do it, yes or no?

01:48:32.080 Answer the question.

01:48:32.820 Okay, good.

01:48:33.960 If you could turn the UK into an Islamic state

01:48:36.180 where people are executed for apostasy,

01:48:37.580 would you do it, yes or no?

01:48:38.360 One second.

01:48:39.500 Okay, are you finished your tantrum?

01:48:41.660 Answer my question.

01:48:42.860 Answer my question.

01:48:43.260 I don't care.

01:48:43.680 Do this, do this.

01:48:44.320 Answer my question.

01:48:45.140 Come on.

01:48:45.280 I am, I am.

01:48:45.740 Look, breathe in through your mouth.

01:48:47.300 Answer my question.

01:48:48.240 Hold it five seconds.

01:48:49.220 Yes or no?

01:48:49.740 You have five seconds.

01:48:50.460 And then let it go from the nose.

01:48:51.480 Two.

01:48:51.680 Yeah?

01:48:52.140 Okay.

01:48:52.480 Three, four, five.

01:48:55.440 Okay, you have not answered the question.

01:48:56.520 Fantastic.

01:48:57.180 So another question that he doesn't want to answer.

01:48:59.400 Another question that he's too cowardly to answer.

01:49:01.340 He's too cowardly to take a vaccine to come to America

01:49:05.240 and says that I was scared of facing an idiot,

01:49:09.000 an imbecile like him.

01:49:10.760 Can you believe that?

01:49:12.200 Can you believe that?

01:49:12.880 He's scared of taking a vaccine

01:49:14.380 and wants to avoid the debate based on that.

01:49:17.300 He probably has the vaccine.

01:49:18.940 He probably just makes it up as an excuse

01:49:20.260 because he doesn't want to have a debate.

01:49:22.340 You got finished.

01:49:22.780 He follows a pedophile prophet.

01:49:24.540 You got finished.

01:49:25.260 Cannot discuss this.

01:49:26.080 You got finished.

01:49:26.640 As openly said, he is on record saying

01:49:28.900 he would marry his daughter off

01:49:30.920 to an old man if she is ready at the age of nine.

01:49:34.600 You're finished.

01:49:34.920 He actually said he would marry off his nine-year-old daughter

01:49:37.380 to an old man if it were possible.

01:49:40.040 He said that.

01:49:40.800 We have it on video.

01:49:41.500 We have it on record.

01:49:42.380 He did say that.

01:49:43.500 His friend Mohammed Hijab said that the Quran

01:49:45.460 actually allows child marriage

01:49:47.720 and having sex with five-year-olds.

01:49:50.100 This is Islam.

01:49:51.000 And he's too shy to admit this here right now.

01:49:54.000 He's too shy to admit these things

01:49:55.800 because his religion would bomb right here

01:49:58.480 while it is life.

01:50:00.700 Go ahead.

01:50:01.340 Go ahead.

01:50:01.900 You're a coward.

01:50:02.920 You're a coward.

01:50:03.640 Go ahead.

01:50:04.380 People have seen you today.

01:50:05.720 Fantastic.

01:50:06.240 That was better than a debate.

01:50:07.580 No, you can't.

01:50:08.300 Fuck off.

01:50:08.900 I don't care.

01:50:09.580 Get out of here.

01:50:10.640 I don't care.

01:50:11.400 You can leave.

01:50:12.300 Can I say something?

01:50:12.920 Can you hear me?

01:50:13.280 Can you hear me?

01:50:13.960 I can say stay away from Islam.

01:50:15.820 Stay away from dumb people like this guy.

01:50:17.200 Can you hear me?

01:50:17.640 Can I say something?

01:50:18.180 No, I can't.

01:50:18.680 I can't hear you.

01:50:19.660 Can I say last statements?

01:50:20.680 I can't hear you.

01:50:21.400 No.

01:50:21.860 I can't hear you.

01:50:22.420 One last statement?

01:50:23.280 Bye-bye.

01:50:24.060 One last statement?

01:50:26.080 Bro.

01:50:27.020 Bro.

01:50:27.380 La ilahe illallah.

01:50:28.400 Bro.

Ali Dawah - February 05, 2022

ALI DAWAH VS APUSSS - FULL ＂DEBATE＂ - HILARIOUS 🤣

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