Ali Dawah - May 04, 2025


ARAB CHRISTIANS DID'NT EXPECT THIS ANSWER


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

206.34534

Word Count

1,975

Sentence Count

3

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

In this episode, I speak with a Christian convert to Islam. We discuss the difference between Christianity and Islam, and the concept of God being divine and God being all-knowing, as well as what it means to be a Christian.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 ومن أحسن قولا من من دعا إلى الله وعمل صالحا وقال إنني من المسلمين
00:00:19.220 Just imagine the people back in the day when they would have to travel certain distances for months or even years
00:00:25.260 What is one thing that they would carry with them?
00:00:27.580 The Qur'an. Why? Because they did not have it on their mobile devices or their gadgets
00:00:32.540 Brothers and sisters, imagine you have an app, the Qur'ani app, which not only shows you how much rewards you get
00:00:39.260 But reminds you to read the Qur'an, gives you reminders
00:00:43.100 Download the Qur'ani app now and let it testify for you on your Muqiyama that you read it wherever you was
00:00:49.240 Yeah, so yeah, what's your take on, so yeah, what's your thing on Islam?
00:00:53.280 What's stopping you from accepting Islam?
00:00:55.660 What's stopping you from accepting Islam?
00:00:58.620 Yes
00:01:00.620 All right, so I'll be honest with you
00:01:02.620 I did look into it a couple of years back
00:01:04.620 I was 15 or something like that
00:01:07.580 I had problems with religion, the usual shit that happens
00:01:09.580 What problems? Like your faith, Christianity?
00:01:12.540 So yeah, Christian and a lot of stuff happened and I felt kind of separated
00:01:18.540 Separated from God, so I was a bit lost if that means
00:01:22.540 Yeah
00:01:27.500 And I felt a drag back to Christianity, back to Christ I would say
00:01:35.500 How? But tell me what is it?
00:01:37.500 Is it an emotional one or a logical one?
00:01:39.500 Logical
00:01:41.500 Okay, can you tell me logically how Jesus being divine God makes sense
00:01:46.460 Okay, so from what I took, so from certain things I saw in the Qur'an I believe
00:01:52.460 It said that Christ would come back to judge the world
00:01:54.460 But at the same time only God can judge
00:01:58.460 I don't think it's in the Qur'an but for example
00:02:03.420 We believe that Jesus will come and he will rule
00:02:05.420 And he will kill the Antichrist
00:02:06.460 But how does that make him God?
00:02:07.420 For example, I judge in my house
00:02:09.420 Does that make me God?
00:02:11.420 But only God can judge in the divine sense
00:02:15.420 No, no, no, not in the divine sense
00:02:17.420 Nowhere in the Qur'an of Islam does it say that
00:02:19.420 Jesus will come and judge in the divine sense
00:02:21.420 He will come and rule
00:02:25.420 We will follow him and there will be justice
00:02:28.380 But a ruler judges
00:02:29.420 I judge in my own house
00:02:31.420 So how does that make him God?
00:02:33.420 Like would you not accept that for example
00:02:35.420 God almighty has attributes?
00:02:37.420 Of course, attributes themselves
00:02:39.420 Attributes themselves, for example, you accept God exists
00:02:42.380 That means that God willed the universe to begin
00:02:45.420 Correct
00:02:46.380 That means he has a will
00:02:48.380 He willed the universe to begin
00:02:49.420 Okay, good
00:02:51.420 Number one, he exists, he has a will
00:02:52.420 Number two, do you accept that there is knowledge in the universe?
00:02:54.420 Knowledge in all sense
00:02:56.420 Knowledge in all sense
00:02:57.420 Like for example, the fact that we have knowledge
00:02:58.420 We have a knowledge of discussion here
00:02:59.420 Knowledge for example, information
00:03:01.420 This is information in the Qur'an, yeah?
00:03:03.420 In any book
00:03:04.420 For example, you are composed of DNA
00:03:06.420 DNA has information
00:03:07.420 Of course
00:03:08.420 Okay, good
00:03:09.420 Information requires intelligence
00:03:10.420 Yeah
00:03:11.420 So God almighty has to be the all-knowing
00:03:12.420 Yeah
00:03:13.420 Good
00:03:14.420 Would you accept that there is power
00:03:15.420 There is energy in the universe?
00:03:16.420 Sure
00:03:17.420 I think that means God has to be the all-powerful
00:03:19.420 Okay
00:03:20.420 So these are actually, for example
00:03:21.420 When I look at a painting
00:03:22.420 I know a lot about the painter
00:03:23.420 By looking at the painting
00:03:24.420 First
00:03:25.420 Okay, so I know for example
00:03:26.420 The painter exists
00:03:27.420 I know for example
00:03:28.420 That he willed the paint
00:03:29.420 I know number three is a good
00:03:30.420 What he does
00:03:31.420 Number three, I know he has
00:03:32.420 Intelligence
00:03:33.420 To do what he is doing
00:03:34.420 So
00:03:35.420 Now, how do you justify
00:03:36.420 Jesus as a human being
00:03:38.420 Being God
00:03:39.420 When God almighty
00:03:40.420 Is the opposite of a human being
00:03:42.420 He is the all-knowing
00:03:43.420 He is the all-powerful
00:03:44.420 He has no beginning and no end
00:03:45.420 Okay, he is the all-powerful
00:03:46.420 In the sense he has the ability
00:03:47.420 To make himself into a human
00:03:49.420 How?
00:03:50.420 How?
00:03:51.420 I don't think he was that
00:03:52.420 He is all-powerful
00:03:53.420 Okay, one second
00:03:54.420 All-powerful means he can do
00:03:55.420 Whatever he wills
00:03:56.420 Okay, can God lie?
00:03:57.420 That was a good one
00:04:00.420 That was a good one
00:04:02.420 That was a good one
00:04:03.420 Let me just give you a click
00:04:04.420 I'm not trying to catch you
00:04:05.420 No, no, I know
00:04:06.420 I'm trying to get you different
00:04:07.420 No, I know
00:04:08.420 But no, what I'm saying
00:04:09.420 If you were to will
00:04:10.420 Are you a Christian as well?
00:04:11.420 Yeah, okay
00:04:12.420 Like these are the two things
00:04:13.420 When I speak to Christians
00:04:14.420 We agree and I agree with you
00:04:15.420 God cannot lie
00:04:16.420 And God cannot die
00:04:17.420 So when they come
00:04:18.420 When Christians come and say to me
00:04:19.420 God is the all-powerful
00:04:20.420 He can do anything
00:04:21.420 What do you mean?
00:04:22.420 Can God become a tree?
00:04:23.420 No, because it doesn't be
00:04:24.420 His majesty
00:04:25.420 What I'm saying is if he wills it
00:04:26.420 If he truly wants to become a tree
00:04:28.420 No, because that's
00:04:29.420 No, no, no
00:04:30.420 But it goes back to
00:04:31.420 Can cease to exist
00:04:32.420 No, because it goes against his nature
00:04:34.420 God cannot die
00:04:35.420 God cannot cease to exist
00:04:36.420 So we accept that
00:04:37.420 You cannot come and say
00:04:38.420 God can do whatever he likes
00:04:40.420 There's things
00:04:41.420 You need to answer what a thing is
00:04:43.420 Just because I say for example
00:04:45.420 Okay, I have a triangle square
00:04:47.420 You can't have a triangle square
00:04:48.420 A triangle has three sides
00:04:49.420 A square has four sides
00:04:50.420 They're two distinct opposite things
00:04:52.420 So we cannot come and say
00:04:54.420 God is all-powerful
00:04:55.420 God is all-powerful
00:04:56.420 He can do whatever he likes
00:04:57.420 No, he cannot
00:04:58.420 Because it's not that
00:04:59.420 It goes against his ability
00:05:00.420 But it's degrading to him
00:05:01.420 And it's not a thing
00:05:02.420 So to say for example
00:05:03.420 Can God make a rock so big
00:05:05.420 He can't lift?
00:05:08.420 If he's all-powerful
00:05:09.420 Because if he makes a rock so big
00:05:11.420 He can't lift
00:05:12.420 Then he's not God
00:05:13.420 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:05:14.420 No, no, no, no
00:05:15.420 That's good, yeah, yeah, yeah
00:05:16.420 What I'm saying is that
00:05:17.420 These are things that
00:05:18.420 Because when people come and say
00:05:19.420 Yeah
00:05:20.420 We say
00:05:21.420 God does what
00:05:22.420 Befits his majesty
00:05:23.420 Now, Jesus was ignorant
00:05:24.420 In Mark chapter 13
00:05:26.420 I think it's Mark chapter 13 verse 32
00:05:28.420 Jesus
00:05:29.420 Do you believe Jesus is the all-knowing?
00:05:31.420 Yeah, I know he didn't know the time of
00:05:33.420 He didn't know the hour
00:05:34.420 They asked him
00:05:35.420 Who knows the hour?
00:05:36.420 He said, nobody knows the hour
00:05:37.420 Not the angels of heaven
00:05:38.420 He doesn't even mention the Holy Spirit
00:05:40.420 Which is even called to God
00:05:41.420 Except the Father
00:05:42.420 Yes?
00:05:43.420 So, Jesus is saying that
00:05:44.420 He does not know the hour
00:05:46.420 Yes?
00:05:46.920 So, to me
00:05:47.420 When they asked him
00:05:48.420 Like for example
00:05:49.420 A clear one
00:05:50.420 Do you know John chapter 17 verse 3?
00:05:52.420 No, I don't know
00:05:53.420 Okay, do you believe God can have another
00:05:55.420 God can have a God?
00:05:57.420 Can God have a God?
00:05:58.420 No
00:05:59.420 Okay, good
00:06:00.420 So, if you claim Jesus to be God
00:06:02.420 Then in John chapter 17 verse 3
00:06:04.420 Jesus clearly says that
00:06:06.420 So they may know
00:06:07.420 So they may have eternal life
00:06:09.420 They may know you
00:06:10.420 The only true God
00:06:12.420 Which means Jesus has a God
00:06:14.420 How can he be God?
00:06:16.420 The only thing us Muslims are saying
00:06:18.420 In the Quran is
00:06:19.420 Let us come to common terms between us and you
00:06:21.420 You're the people of the book
00:06:22.420 That we worship God alone
00:06:24.420 That's the only thing we're asking
00:06:25.420 I do worship God alone
00:06:27.420 No, but how?
00:06:28.420 You say that Jesus is God
00:06:29.420 You say the Holy Spirit is God
00:06:30.420 I believe Christ is an embodiment of God
00:06:34.420 It's the Trinity
00:06:35.420 I believe in the Trinity
00:06:36.420 Okay, good
00:06:37.420 But what I'm saying is that
00:06:38.420 Logically and rationally
00:06:39.420 What we just discussed
00:06:40.420 You just admitted and accepted
00:06:42.420 He did not know the hour
00:06:43.420 He said that he has a God
00:06:45.420 So how does that rationally make sense?
00:06:46.420 I'm going to be honest with you
00:06:47.420 It's something that does confuse you
00:06:48.420 I'll be honest
00:06:49.420 But I will bring something that I hear a lot of people say
00:06:52.420 No, no, I want to talk to you
00:06:53.420 I don't care about what other people say
00:06:54.420 Okay, okay, okay
00:06:55.420 If it doesn't make sense to you
00:06:56.420 It's not that it doesn't make sense
00:06:58.420 No, it doesn't make sense
00:06:59.420 No, I meant in the sense I don't know how to debate
00:07:00.420 No, no
00:07:01.420 I can debate Tawheed with you all day, all night
00:07:04.420 Okay
00:07:05.420 And it makes sense
00:07:06.420 And it is the truth because it's outside
00:07:08.420 It's objective truth
00:07:09.420 You get what I'm trying to say?
00:07:10.420 So what I'm saying is
00:07:11.420 Why do you believe in something that logically doesn't follow?
00:07:15.420 Like don't...
00:07:16.420 What's the reason?
00:07:17.420 Tell me a reason why you believe in the Trinity
00:07:20.420 Number two, the Bible
00:07:21.420 There's a whole question mark on the Bible
00:07:23.420 Do you want to say something?
00:07:25.420 Well, what I wanted to say is that
00:07:27.420 It's a religion, it's a faith
00:07:30.420 Not blind faith
00:07:31.420 It has logic and not
00:07:33.420 It doesn't have to be logical
00:07:34.420 I agree to a certain extent
00:07:36.420 But not blind logic
00:07:37.420 There has to be some certain things that are basic
00:07:39.420 Yeah
00:07:40.420 That you understand
00:07:41.420 We do have basic things, don't we?
00:07:42.420 No, no, no
00:07:43.420 For example
00:07:44.420 God is, for example
00:07:46.420 Natural disasters
00:07:47.420 Yeah
00:07:48.420 Children getting cancer
00:07:49.420 Yeah
00:07:50.420 These are things I don't understand
00:07:51.420 So everything does not have to be logical
00:07:53.420 What I'm saying is this though
00:07:54.420 Who God is
00:07:56.420 Has to be logical
00:07:57.420 Perhaps
00:07:58.420 It is logical
00:07:59.420 But we don't understand it
00:08:00.420 No, no, no
00:08:01.420 We might not see the full picture of it
00:08:02.420 One thing that is clear
00:08:03.420 This is why we believe
00:08:04.420 Everyone is born a Muslim
00:08:06.420 That's why
00:08:07.420 When I speak to you about
00:08:08.420 The oneness of God
00:08:09.420 We believe that is the fitrah
00:08:11.420 God has programmed you to know the truth
00:08:13.420 He has to
00:08:14.420 You need to know the basic principle
00:08:15.420 Which is what?
00:08:16.420 That God is one
00:08:17.420 He's not a man
00:08:19.420 And nowhere in the Bible
00:08:21.420 Jesus claims to be divine
00:08:22.420 So what I'm saying is
00:08:23.420 Logically
00:08:24.420 You accept
00:08:25.420 That God is one
00:08:26.420 Right
00:08:27.420 Do you accept that?
00:08:28.420 God cannot be a man
00:08:29.420 Yeah
00:08:30.420 Well he
00:08:31.420 He says he's the son of God
00:08:32.420 Son of God in what sense?
00:08:33.420 Because I am the father of one
00:08:34.420 No, no
00:08:35.420 I am the father of one
00:08:36.420 If you read a bit further down
00:08:38.420 It says the disciples
00:08:39.420 As I am in the father you are in me
00:08:40.420 Are they all gods now?
00:08:41.420 Are they all one now?
00:08:43.420 Sorry?
00:08:44.420 In the Bible it says
00:08:45.420 To his disciples
00:08:46.420 As I am in the father you are in me
00:08:47.420 There's a lot of times where he does
00:08:49.420 Clearly claim to be God
00:08:50.420 Where?
00:08:51.420 Show me one place he claims to be God
00:08:52.420 Um
00:08:53.420 Let me get the exact truth
00:08:54.420 I've got the Bible
00:08:55.420 You have it?
00:08:56.420 I don't even know what number it is
00:08:57.420 But I'm not gonna lie to you
00:08:58.420 Damn, marks and everything
00:08:59.420 It's actually somebody else's
00:09:01.420 Yeah
00:09:02.420 You can check
00:09:03.420 He says before Abraham was
00:09:04.420 I am
00:09:05.420 Right
00:09:06.420 How does that make him God?
00:09:07.420 So the
00:09:10.420 Rule
00:09:11.420 Sorry
00:09:12.420 It's a live stream
00:09:13.420 I don't know
00:09:14.420 No it's fine
00:09:15.420 It's fine
00:09:16.420 I'm not
00:09:17.420 I'm just sure
00:09:18.420 Just a quick question obviously
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