Ali Dawah - December 06, 2025


ARROGANT ATHEISTS GETS WRECKED - EMBRACING END


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Jummah Kutbahayah, a muslim atheist? Why does he not believe in God ? What does he think about evolution and the theory of evolution? What is the point of evolution if there is no God? And why does he believe that God exists?

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00:00:00.000 over and over again you're gonna get us clip you can't answer that's already done that's already
00:00:04.740 finished listen i'll be honest this you guys have to be the most irrational people i've 0.63
00:00:08.060 thought in my life can something come from nothing yes and that's why i would say yes
00:00:11.940 prove it okay prove that if you prove it if you prove it i'm gonna become an atheist
00:00:16.520 assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi barakatuh i'm so happy to be able to talk to you today
00:00:23.460 and mashallah my brother our sheikh ali hamuda is doing a great job waqf forever is a very very
00:00:31.700 beautiful cause because the reward of what you give is not just at the moment of giving but rather
00:00:42.500 it is prolonged for a very very long time and it lasts for as long as that waqf continues to generate 1.00
00:00:51.300 to generate some form of benefit so i highly recommend waqf forever as an ambassador of
00:00:58.100 abdullah aid i know the the partnership that we have is amazing and not many people understand the
00:01:06.500 concept of waqf yet the reward is far greater through the waqf so inshallah if you can support
00:01:13.000 waqf forever it will be really really amazing and very very rewarding
00:01:18.700 is that your actual name or is it like my my actual name my actual name is muhammad cubed
00:01:24.780 are you are you muslim yes yes my actual name is ralph are you muslim no i'm not what's your
00:01:30.540 religion ralph no your religion oh no no religion you don't have a religion atheist atheist okay i can
00:01:36.860 prove god exists in two minutes you can prove it or i can prove it i can prove i would love to
00:01:41.420 okay what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna can i can i use your gloves as an example of course do you
00:01:46.620 mind if i take them off no it's okay keep going all right turn it around okay do you agree that your
00:01:51.340 the your gloves have a specific shape i'd agree with that okay do you agree that it has specific
00:01:57.020 pattern on the inside yeah okay good does it have a purpose a purpose yes what's the purpose keep my
00:02:03.340 hands warm okay good does it have a designer yes okay good would you say yeah design i mean
00:02:09.580 someone that made it yeah someone okay good is your heart more complex in design or your gloves my
00:02:13.180 heart okay good more complex your heart is more complex yes good so if this has a purpose if this
00:02:18.220 has a pattern if this has a shape and it has a designer if your heart is more complex rationally
00:02:22.220 logically follows that someone created your heart does that rationally follow what's this okay wait
00:02:29.340 this isn't aquinas this is thomas paley's watchmaker theory yeah yeah i won't talk until until i'm
00:02:35.180 until i'm offered to talk no no no no so yeah so so so rationologically does that follow does it follow
00:02:42.300 i don't know if it does follow because the main the main argument against this is that obviously yes the
00:02:49.180 heart is way more and the whole design of nature is a lot more complex than this glove obviously this glove
00:02:54.540 has a designer made it for a purpose good so what's the purpose of your heart exactly the purpose of
00:03:01.260 my heart is to keep me alive okay good the purpose of nature can i say that who made your heart the
00:03:07.100 way it is so it gives you life evolution what do you mean by evolution is evolution is not a blind fear
00:03:11.500 we're both in the interview i want him to him to judge before we get just one second please
00:03:18.380 because you're a muslim so when you say evolution evolution is not a blind process evolution evolution
00:03:23.500 so it is a blind process it is a blind process but the thing with evolution is that it came across so
00:03:29.500 much time the point of evolution is that with that much time that all the random chances they kind of
00:03:37.260 no it doesn't make sense so what you're doing is you're saying that if you give it okay let me
00:03:41.660 let me let my brother go okay what you're using right now is a classic gtc argument the watchmaker
00:03:46.380 and the creator yeah if something so complex was made it must write a creator and that's the default
00:03:51.420 argument you can use that for anything yeah but exactly i'm going to use your logic get yours
00:03:56.140 if you're saying that something so complex was created then what creates that creator and exactly that
00:04:02.300 it goes back and back and then and then and then no okay please i promise i'll shut up in two
00:04:07.020 seconds the go-to argument after that is that god is so defiant and so naturally great that he
00:04:13.100 doesn't need a creator he defies the laws of physics and that right there is a complete void of your
00:04:17.660 argument that's not that's not my argument okay then i apologize perfect so let's so let's go back to
00:04:22.220 the basics okay firstly number one i believe that god almighty is necessary and he's independent so i'll use
00:04:27.340 the argument from contingency yes firstly the example that i gave you is an evidence that god exists
00:04:31.740 but i'll move to uh away i'll add an argument on top of that number one do you accept that there
00:04:37.180 are okay there are three tapes types of existence an impossible existence a possible existence and a
00:04:43.100 necessary existence yes so i'll give you examples of that i guess i'll accept that but i don't know
00:04:48.300 i'll give you examples number one an impossible existence is like a triangle square or a married
00:04:54.540 bachelor can't be possible good so so it's an impossible existence it doesn't exist i'm honestly willing to
00:04:59.900 learn here so we have two types of existence possible existence and necessary existence yes
00:05:05.900 possible existence is something that depends on something else for his existence
00:05:10.300 correct clear a a possible existence is something that depends on something else for his existence
00:05:16.140 like a ball moving from someone kicking it yes me me i depend on something you depend on something
00:05:21.660 you depend on your mother and father creating you no no they are my cause but i don't depend on them to
00:05:26.620 survive they cause me but i don't depend on them your existence i know no no i'm not even trying
00:05:31.580 to get deep but but but i don't depend on them yeah you're saying yeah but i'm saying when we're
00:05:35.900 talking about your examples right now we're talking about you they've created you they cause me yeah
00:05:39.980 but i don't depend on them you don't depend on them yeah my my regardless of dependence but like
00:05:44.220 my argument is on dependency not causality so well yeah that's what it is but your life is dependent on
00:05:51.020 them yes no no no right now because your life having no created i don't want to be the initial
00:05:56.460 the initial the initial my my my my initial creation is from them but i can be adopted by
00:06:02.460 other people yes thank you good you but let's just clarify this they still were dependent for your
00:06:09.420 existence yes initially but initially yeah yeah yeah going forward not okay so do you agree that our
00:06:15.820 planet earth is dependent yes yes okay good now is our universe dependent or independent
00:06:23.420 uh i don't have enough knowledge about this but i would say i would say from the best of my knowledge
00:06:28.940 which is limited it's independent as in the universe is the universe is independent did you say
00:06:35.020 yeah but that's okay okay good so when you say the universe is independent you agree that we need
00:06:39.740 that independent being you just ascribed it to the universe no i don't agree that we need an
00:06:45.580 independent being why do we say the universe is independent i i believe that we can exist like
00:06:50.700 uh spontaneously i don't think we need an independent being no one second you said the universe is
00:06:54.940 independent yes so we require sorry if you're saying god is the independent being why can't the
00:07:01.100 universe be the independent good good good before we come to that you said the universe is independent
00:07:05.660 so you agree that we what did i say there's two kinds of existence dependent dependent independent so good
00:07:11.260 So we said
00:07:12.120 I said is the universe
00:07:13.020 Dependent or independent
00:07:14.040 You said independent
00:07:14.700 That's good for me
00:07:15.840 Because you agreed that
00:07:16.820 We require an independent thing
00:07:19.200 You ascribed it to the universe
00:07:20.620 Correct?
00:07:21.540 Yes
00:07:21.800 But you're being
00:07:23.020 Very specific
00:07:23.940 On my definitions
00:07:25.260 When I am not
00:07:26.280 The most educated person
00:07:27.220 So I might say something wrong
00:07:28.760 No no no
00:07:29.160 But yeah
00:07:29.960 My point is
00:07:31.900 That I might say something wrong
00:07:33.200 Right now
00:07:33.720 And it's
00:07:34.300 It's not about being right or wrong
00:07:35.860 I just want to give clarity
00:07:36.420 I'm not here to make right or wrong
00:07:37.460 Or look smart
00:07:37.980 Or I'm not here to catch anyone
00:07:39.220 I'm here to have a discussion
00:07:40.060 And learn
00:07:40.360 So
00:07:40.860 Sorry
00:07:41.180 The argument I'm saying is the following
00:07:42.200 If you say the universe is independent
00:07:44.340 There's an issue with that
00:07:45.800 I will prove to you
00:07:46.440 The universe is not independent
00:07:47.400 Because number one
00:07:48.060 Anything that is composed of pieces
00:07:50.340 And can be any other way
00:07:52.400 Cannot be independent
00:07:53.560 Has to be dependent
00:07:54.220 You for example
00:07:55.240 I would love to hear more
00:07:55.860 For example
00:07:56.320 You are made out of pieces
00:07:57.640 Yes
00:07:58.500 Yes
00:07:58.820 Okay good
00:07:59.300 You can be any other way
00:08:00.240 You can have one arm missing
00:08:01.420 One leg missing
00:08:02.240 Yes
00:08:02.960 Good
00:08:03.100 One eye missing
00:08:03.800 Yes
00:08:04.120 Good
00:08:04.300 So anything that is composed of pieces
00:08:07.000 And can be any other way
00:08:08.840 Is dependent
00:08:10.040 On what
00:08:12.140 Sorry
00:08:12.520 No it's just
00:08:12.860 It's dependent
00:08:14.180 Dependent
00:08:14.940 Sorry
00:08:15.360 This is not
00:08:16.100 It meant to attack you at all
00:08:16.920 I'm just curious
00:08:17.420 Dependent on what
00:08:18.440 No no that's what I mean
00:08:19.780 You are dependent
00:08:21.080 On survival
00:08:22.280 Like food
00:08:22.720 Shelter etc
00:08:23.340 Okay
00:08:23.740 Once again this might be wrong
00:08:25.180 But I'm pretty sure
00:08:25.780 The definition of dependent
00:08:26.840 Leads to another now
00:08:28.200 Leads to another pronoun
00:08:29.240 Would you agree?
00:08:29.960 I can't just say I'm dependent
00:08:31.020 I'm dependent on something
00:08:32.260 So that's not at all an attack
00:08:34.400 It's me asking you why
00:08:35.480 No that's what I'm saying
00:08:36.400 I'm saying
00:08:37.060 The universe is composed of galaxies
00:08:38.640 Yes
00:08:39.320 So
00:08:39.740 Pieces
00:08:40.820 So anything that's composed of pieces
00:08:42.340 Has to be dependent
00:08:43.740 On what?
00:08:44.780 So that's where I ask you that
00:08:45.540 Itself
00:08:45.920 Look for example
00:08:46.620 What I'm saying is
00:08:47.680 That
00:08:48.180 For example
00:08:49.100 Sorry I'm so disrespectful
00:08:50.300 I do not mean to laugh
00:08:51.420 No no it's not disrespectful
00:08:52.020 I'm making an argument
00:08:52.920 Very simple
00:08:53.560 So the universe is composed of galaxies
00:08:55.700 Yes
00:08:56.260 Anything that's composed of galaxies
00:08:57.880 It depends
00:08:58.260 You can't have our universe
00:08:59.580 Without galaxies
00:09:00.460 It won't be a universe
00:09:01.180 Yes
00:09:01.520 So that means
00:09:02.640 In order for the universe to be a universe
00:09:04.140 It depends on our galaxies
00:09:05.820 The galaxies
00:09:06.940 Okay
00:09:08.320 Yeah that's where I disagree
00:09:09.820 But that's like saying
00:09:10.960 I'm dependent on my bones
00:09:12.340 Yeah
00:09:13.000 You are
00:09:14.020 Perfect analogy
00:09:14.900 I know
00:09:15.280 You are
00:09:15.680 You are
00:09:16.240 You are
00:09:17.120 You are dependent on your bones
00:09:17.640 I thought you were saying
00:09:18.260 I'm dependent on something
00:09:19.300 Yeah exactly
00:09:19.740 No but you depend on them
00:09:20.920 Okay
00:09:21.020 Now we might have got this wrong
00:09:22.540 I depend on them right now
00:09:23.600 But I'm not dependent on them
00:09:25.600 Now yeah
00:09:26.000 Initially
00:09:26.380 Perfectly
00:09:27.240 We might have got this wrong
00:09:28.360 How are you standing
00:09:30.460 I am not the result of my bones
00:09:32.380 No I never said that
00:09:33.260 How are you standing
00:09:34.120 Okay well then
00:09:34.760 If you're going to play that argument
00:09:35.700 Then we should also be
00:09:36.600 Dependent on ourselves
00:09:37.880 We should also be dependent 0.84
00:09:38.780 On the oxygen we breathe
00:09:39.740 To provide energy
00:09:40.620 I'm dependent on my bones
00:09:41.860 That's how I do
00:09:42.620 Exactly
00:09:42.980 By that logic
00:09:44.300 My friend
00:09:45.640 Do you depend on your heartbeat
00:09:46.860 To survive
00:09:47.420 Yes
00:09:47.840 Yes
00:09:48.980 So that means you're dependent
00:09:50.120 Yes
00:09:50.700 Thank you
00:09:51.520 That's my point
00:09:52.400 So you're dependent
00:09:53.040 On your heartbeat
00:09:53.640 To survive
00:09:54.100 Yes
00:09:54.600 That's a different kind of
00:09:55.660 Dependency
00:09:56.260 Dependency means
00:09:59.540 Look contingent means
00:10:01.460 Something that depends
00:10:03.120 On something else
00:10:04.000 For its existence
00:10:04.720 You require your heart
00:10:06.540 To beat
00:10:06.940 To exist
00:10:07.560 Okay yeah
00:10:08.040 That's what I'm saying
00:10:09.020 Yeah
00:10:09.360 Overcomplicate
00:10:10.560 Good
00:10:10.820 So
00:10:11.280 So
00:10:11.820 Good
00:10:12.280 So the universe
00:10:13.240 Depends on the galaxies
00:10:15.040 Within it to be a universe
00:10:16.100 Yes
00:10:16.440 Good
00:10:16.820 Otherwise
00:10:17.120 It doesn't
00:10:18.160 A universe
00:10:18.920 Consists of the galaxies
00:10:20.040 Without the galaxies
00:10:20.780 It wouldn't be a universe
00:10:21.820 I agree
00:10:22.900 Thank you
00:10:22.940 Thank you
00:10:23.680 So now
00:10:24.540 The question I'm asking
00:10:25.620 Is the following now
00:10:26.300 That proves that the universe
00:10:27.740 Is not independent
00:10:28.680 The universe is not independent
00:10:30.840 It is dependent
00:10:31.780 So if it's dependent
00:10:32.920 What does it depend on?
00:10:34.460 Can I just say
00:10:35.140 Your meaning of dependent
00:10:37.180 Has switched
00:10:38.360 In between the argument
00:10:39.560 Tell me how it switched please
00:10:40.380 Because originally
00:10:41.400 You were saying
00:10:42.180 Was dependent
00:10:43.580 On something higher
00:10:45.180 No no no
00:10:46.200 I said
00:10:47.140 The universe is composed
00:10:48.520 Of galaxies
00:10:49.100 Yes
00:10:49.520 Without those galaxies
00:10:50.240 There won't be a universe
00:10:50.860 Sorry
00:10:51.060 Let me just hear further
00:10:51.980 Before I say anything
00:10:52.980 I'd like to hear further
00:10:53.940 Okay good
00:10:54.700 So
00:10:55.120 So
00:10:56.020 If you
00:10:56.460 No no no
00:10:57.880 About God
00:10:58.880 God exists
00:10:59.500 Yeah
00:10:59.720 So just say with me please
00:11:01.300 Sorry
00:11:01.560 What's your religious stance
00:11:02.560 Just
00:11:02.880 Can we just
00:11:03.860 Can we just
00:11:04.180 Stick to this please
00:11:04.560 I'm Christian
00:11:04.820 But I'll re-support
00:11:05.840 Muslim people
00:11:06.560 Yeah we're just
00:11:07.040 Because I think
00:11:07.620 They're being really
00:11:08.380 He's atheists 1.00
00:11:09.400 We're just bringing
00:11:09.760 God exists to him
00:11:10.600 I would just like to
00:11:11.360 Clear this up right now
00:11:12.260 So so so
00:11:13.040 So therefore
00:11:13.600 The question is very simple
00:11:14.700 If the universe
00:11:15.780 Is now dependent
00:11:16.940 Not independent
00:11:17.540 Like you said
00:11:18.080 Which I've proven
00:11:18.620 What does it depend on
00:11:20.580 It's galaxies
00:11:21.400 As you said
00:11:22.580 It depends on
00:11:23.160 No no no
00:11:23.820 I would disagree with you
00:11:24.420 No no no
00:11:24.740 The universe holistically
00:11:26.400 As a whole
00:11:27.900 Depends on
00:11:29.360 Something either
00:11:30.380 Dependent
00:11:31.500 Or something independent
00:11:32.560 But you said
00:11:33.900 The universe is dependent
00:11:35.160 Because it's dependent
00:11:36.000 On its galaxies
00:11:36.720 Yes
00:11:37.220 And then you asked me
00:11:38.120 What's it dependent on
00:11:39.160 I'm saying
00:11:39.760 It's galaxies
00:11:40.320 Perfect
00:11:40.560 Because that's exactly
00:11:41.260 What you said
00:11:41.880 Perfect
00:11:42.160 Perfect
00:11:42.560 Perfect
00:11:43.560 That's exactly what you said
00:11:43.580 That's hard to the reason
00:11:44.660 Okay
00:11:44.900 Same perfect
00:11:45.900 Doesn't answer your question
00:11:46.780 With all your respect
00:11:47.380 If I show and go
00:11:48.960 Perfect perfect perfect
00:11:50.120 It doesn't answer your question
00:11:51.180 So now
00:11:51.880 What did you say
00:11:52.740 The universe is dependent on
00:11:53.660 In the example before
00:11:54.900 Anything that is composed of pieces
00:11:57.760 And can be any other way
00:11:59.840 Is dependent
00:12:01.240 Good
00:12:01.940 On a maker
00:12:02.620 On a maker
00:12:03.260 Listen listen
00:12:03.700 On a maker
00:12:04.160 Look look look
00:12:04.660 Thank you
00:12:05.860 On a maker is that what you're saying
00:12:06.900 Thank you
00:12:07.520 Can I just say
00:12:08.040 One piece
00:12:08.760 Can I say one thing
00:12:09.040 No no no
00:12:09.520 You said before
00:12:11.280 The universe was dependent
00:12:12.860 We asked
00:12:13.660 What's it dependent on
00:12:14.620 You said
00:12:15.220 It's dependent on its galaxies
00:12:16.380 No
00:12:16.720 It is dependent
00:12:17.540 Because it is composed of galaxies
00:12:19.400 Not it depends on galaxies
00:12:21.040 My friend my friend
00:12:24.200 The parts come before the whole
00:12:26.080 Correct
00:12:26.420 So the galaxies makes the universe
00:12:29.540 Correct
00:12:29.880 Good
00:12:30.400 So the part comes before the whole
00:12:32.220 So the question is the following
00:12:33.640 Anything that is made out of pieces
00:12:36.680 And can be any other way
00:12:38.520 Is dependent
00:12:39.340 The question I'm asking is the following
00:12:40.920 The universe
00:12:42.380 Is it dependent or independent
00:12:44.380 I mean sorry
00:12:45.320 The universe
00:12:46.240 We know it's dependent
00:12:47.060 Now
00:12:47.880 Does it
00:12:48.380 Depends on some
00:12:49.340 Yes
00:12:49.700 Exactly that's what I'm about to say
00:12:50.680 That is such a question
00:12:52.540 I just
00:12:53.940 I just
00:12:54.300 I just
00:12:54.680 I just proved it
00:12:55.540 I just proved it
00:12:56.680 So
00:12:57.080 So
00:12:57.540 So now
00:12:58.300 So now
00:12:58.720 So now
00:12:59.320 I'm sorry
00:13:00.760 Can I just say one thing
00:13:01.780 You asked us
00:13:02.760 Is the universe
00:13:03.380 At the beginning
00:13:03.860 You said is the universe
00:13:04.780 Dependent or independent
00:13:05.520 Yes
00:13:05.880 We said independent
00:13:06.740 Thank you
00:13:07.120 Then you proved it
00:13:08.820 By saying the universe
00:13:09.800 Is independent on its galaxies
00:13:11.240 That's right
00:13:11.980 Boy
00:13:12.480 And now you're saying
00:13:14.400 It's dependent on
00:13:15.540 Not the galaxies
00:13:16.380 Something else
00:13:17.140 You're twisting
00:13:18.200 Our definition of
00:13:19.400 Dependent on something else
00:13:20.380 You can disrespect as much as you want
00:13:21.840 And say we look like idiots
00:13:22.780 And now both
00:13:23.440 I'm sure
00:13:24.100 Firstly
00:13:25.200 I never said
00:13:25.940 I'm here to make you look like idiots
00:13:27.140 I know
00:13:27.540 You're
00:13:28.080 You're
00:13:28.400 You're
00:13:28.720 You're
00:13:29.320 You're
00:13:30.240 You're
00:13:30.520 You're
00:13:30.560 You're the one who
00:13:31.100 Every time
00:13:31.660 You're the one
00:13:32.520 Every time I make a point
00:13:33.700 You're
00:13:34.000 No sorry
00:13:34.680 I didn't see
00:13:35.000 I didn't see
00:13:35.280 Sorry
00:13:35.460 I've got an eye condition
00:13:36.660 Sorry
00:13:36.900 I can't see
00:13:37.280 Yeah
00:13:37.380 I'm sorry
00:13:37.740 So
00:13:37.980 That's fine
00:13:38.520 So
00:13:38.900 Anytime I'm making an argument
00:13:40.900 All I'm hearing is
00:13:41.680 You're like
00:13:41.900 I don't understand why you're doing that
00:13:43.500 I'm not here
00:13:43.840 Look
00:13:43.980 I'm not here
00:13:44.380 I'm sorry
00:13:49.400 Yeah
00:13:50.280 It's fine
00:13:50.940 It's fine
00:13:51.600 It's fine
00:13:52.120 It's fine
00:13:52.660 It's fine
00:13:53.500 Now what I'm saying is this
00:13:54.400 What I'm saying is this
00:13:55.220 Let's get back to the logical rational argument
00:13:56.660 Yeah
00:13:56.860 I said to you
00:13:58.000 Is the universe dependent or independent
00:13:59.540 You said independent
00:14:00.220 Yes
00:14:00.720 Good
00:14:01.140 That works for me
00:14:01.780 You know why
00:14:02.140 You acknowledge that we require something independent
00:14:05.240 You ascribed it to the universe
00:14:07.480 Are you listening
00:14:07.920 Yes
00:14:08.820 Are you listening
00:14:09.420 I repeat again
00:14:10.200 We are both listening
00:14:10.720 When you said the universe is independent
00:14:13.240 That's good for me
00:14:14.060 You know why
00:14:14.480 Because you acknowledge
00:14:15.980 That we require something independent
00:14:18.260 But you ascribed it to the universe
00:14:20.360 Okay
00:14:20.660 One second
00:14:21.580 What I'm trying to do is the following
00:14:23.320 I believe there is also another
00:14:25.240 An independent being
00:14:26.340 Because remember I said to you
00:14:27.320 There's two types of existence
00:14:28.320 Dependent and independent
00:14:29.760 So good
00:14:30.460 So when I prove to you
00:14:32.140 That the universe is composed of galaxies
00:14:34.640 That shows that the universe has to be dependent
00:14:38.320 The question I asked was the following
00:14:40.240 What does the universe depend on?
00:14:44.000 Does it depend on something that is also dependent
00:14:46.680 Or rationally
00:14:48.180 Which one makes more sense?
00:14:49.280 It depends on something that is independent
00:14:51.660 Or what if the universe is
00:14:54.320 There's dependent or independent?
00:14:55.320 Or what if the universe is independent itself?
00:14:58.140 I just
00:14:58.440 My friend
00:14:59.320 I just proved to you
00:15:00.380 Why the universe cannot be independent
00:15:01.540 I proved it by saying
00:15:02.680 It's dependent on things that are in
00:15:04.380 Within the universe
00:15:05.320 You're jumping from here to here
00:15:07.420 I'm expecting
00:15:07.900 You cannot have
00:15:08.920 It's called the fallacy of infinite regress
00:15:11.000 You cannot have a dependent thing
00:15:12.540 That depends on something else
00:15:13.580 So
00:15:14.080 It's called the fallacy of infinite regress
00:15:15.660 Simple question
00:15:16.620 If I was to give you 10 pounds
00:15:18.140 Yes
00:15:18.620 And I had to ask someone behind me
00:15:19.820 No no I want to hear this
00:15:21.080 And that went on forever
00:15:22.220 Would I be giving you 10 pounds?
00:15:24.540 Yes
00:15:24.900 No
00:15:25.280 Yes
00:15:25.820 Well you can't just say no when you ask me
00:15:27.780 I repeat again
00:15:28.640 I repeat again
00:15:29.660 Yes
00:15:30.000 If I was to give you
00:15:31.540 If I was to give you 10 pounds
00:15:33.180 And it goes back
00:15:33.980 Before I give it to you
00:15:35.220 I had to ask someone behind me
00:15:37.600 Can I give him the 10 pounds?
00:15:40.140 You are still giving me 10 pounds
00:15:41.600 Okay
00:15:43.020 I'm in a visual argument
00:15:43.980 I'm in a visual argument
00:15:45.600 Please please
00:15:46.000 I listen to you
00:15:46.560 No no no no no no no
00:15:48.480 Listen
00:15:48.800 I shut up and listen to you
00:15:49.900 I don't care
00:15:50.660 Look at my friend
00:15:51.440 My friend
00:15:51.740 I don't care where it's going to go
00:15:53.080 I'm not here for the cameras
00:15:53.860 If I was going to give you 10 pounds
00:15:56.780 Listen
00:15:57.100 You're listening to reply
00:15:58.500 Not listening to learn
00:15:59.140 I swear to God I'm listening
00:15:59.860 Good
00:16:00.100 If I was to give you 10 pounds
00:16:01.920 But the condition was
00:16:02.800 I have to ask someone behind me
00:16:04.720 If that chain went on forever
00:16:07.480 Would I give you the 10 pounds?
00:16:09.080 100%
00:16:09.680 Tell me how
00:16:10.120 Because you are still transacting the 10 pounds from me
00:16:13.580 Even if you have to ask someone for permission
00:16:15.120 It's still at the end of the day
00:16:16.380 You give me 10 pounds
00:16:17.560 I think you're not understanding
00:16:18.500 Sorry and that sounds aggressive
00:16:19.280 No no it's not aggressive
00:16:20.380 Let me just repeat again
00:16:21.220 I'm going to give you an iPhone
00:16:22.840 You can't just repeat an iPhone
00:16:24.340 Until I agree with you
00:16:25.740 I'm making a logical
00:16:27.520 I'm making a logical case
00:16:29.160 Please
00:16:29.900 Wait no no no
00:16:30.720 Josh
00:16:31.120 Josh
00:16:31.440 My friend
00:16:33.340 My friend
00:16:33.560 I've been trying to talk to you about
00:16:34.600 My friend
00:16:35.280 My friend
00:16:35.580 My friend
00:16:35.900 My friend
00:16:36.220 My friend
00:16:36.960 My friend
00:16:37.320 You're being irrational
00:16:40.080 If I was to give you this phone
00:16:42.300 Yes
00:16:42.880 And before I give it
00:16:44.020 I had to say
00:16:44.560 Do you give me
00:16:46.220 No no no no
00:16:47.600 One second
00:16:48.100 One second
00:16:49.100 One second
00:16:50.740 My friend
00:16:51.400 One second
00:16:52.120 If I have to ask him
00:16:54.280 And ask him
00:16:55.900 Free Gaza
00:17:00.520 Free Gaza
00:17:01.320 Free Sudan
00:17:02.160 Salah Pro Guide and Matt
00:17:03.680 Get it here
00:17:04.440 You need this
00:17:06.000 No no
00:17:07.340 Just one second
00:17:08.180 One second
00:17:08.560 Key 40
00:17:09.720 KIE 40
00:17:11.400 KIE 40
00:17:11.920 Are you guys ready to listen
00:17:12.520 Yes
00:17:12.820 Okay perfect
00:17:13.220 So
00:17:13.620 If I'm going to give you 10 pounds
00:17:15.160 But before I give you the 10 pounds
00:17:16.980 I have to ask someone behind me
00:17:19.680 Let me demonstrate
00:17:20.620 Do you give me permission
00:17:22.540 To give him 10 pounds
00:17:24.300 He says
00:17:25.500 I have to ask someone behind me
00:17:28.000 If this goes on forever
00:17:31.400 Would I be able to give you 10 pounds
00:17:33.720 Who's giving you 10 pounds
00:17:35.120 You
00:17:35.540 You
00:17:36.040 With the condition
00:17:37.000 With the condition
00:17:38.080 I ask someone behind me
00:17:40.400 And if this goes on forever
00:17:41.960 Would I ever get to give you 10 pounds
00:17:44.060 Listen carefully
00:17:44.740 I'm listening bro
00:17:45.800 If there is a
00:17:46.620 If there is an
00:17:49.140 Please let me write
00:17:49.740 I'll be up to 20 seconds
00:17:50.660 Please yes or no
00:17:51.620 Alright
00:17:51.960 No
00:17:52.620 Thank you
00:17:53.120 Give me 20 seconds
00:17:53.580 Wait no
00:17:54.100 I'm saying no
00:17:54.780 I'm saying no
00:17:55.820 As in that isn't your 10 pounds
00:17:57.160 Please give me 20 seconds
00:17:58.120 I said right
00:17:58.400 Yo dingus
00:17:59.560 Can I punch this guy right now
00:18:00.680 Who's held in court
00:18:02.720 Who's held in law
00:18:03.840 For punching me
00:18:04.840 No matter who I have to ask
00:18:06.540 No matter what conditions it is
00:18:08.000 You're arguing
00:18:09.340 You're arguing
00:18:10.280 You're arguing
00:18:10.380 You're arguing
00:18:11.040 You're arguing
00:18:11.500 You're arguing
00:18:12.080 Listen to me
00:18:12.500 Listen to me
00:18:12.920 You will never get to punch me
00:18:14.560 Look look
00:18:14.960 You will never get to punch me
00:18:16.140 My friend
00:18:16.980 My friend
00:18:17.660 You're not listening
00:18:18.880 Can I listen
00:18:19.480 Can I say something
00:18:20.380 No
00:18:20.940 Really
00:18:21.800 No
00:18:22.380 Very very very rarely
00:18:24.320 Okay
00:18:24.580 My brother can I say something
00:18:25.780 Are you guys
00:18:26.220 You have enough of the drink today
00:18:27.400 No
00:18:27.660 Okay
00:18:28.160 You will never get to punch me
00:18:30.080 Because if the condition
00:18:31.460 Is that you have to ask
00:18:32.640 Permission from someone
00:18:33.720 And that goes on forever
00:18:35.440 It's called the fallacy
00:18:36.520 Of infinite regress
00:18:37.540 My brother
00:18:37.900 It's not about fault
00:18:39.380 My friend
00:18:39.820 Your argument is based on infinity
00:18:41.660 Thank you
00:18:42.360 Your argument is based
00:18:43.700 Your argument is based
00:18:44.880 On the fact of infinite time
00:18:46.360 That you're going to have to
00:18:47.000 Keep asking the people
00:18:48.020 Thank you
00:18:48.500 That has nothing to do
00:18:49.940 With the things
00:18:50.520 That they can have
00:18:51.180 Please give me 20 seconds
00:18:52.860 I'll let someone
00:18:53.620 Stop me
00:18:54.200 I genuinely
00:18:56.000 Now
00:18:56.920 Now genuinely
00:18:57.660 I question your rational ideology
00:18:58.800 Boss
00:18:59.040 Please give me 20 seconds
00:19:00.060 Boss
00:19:00.560 Forget boss
00:19:01.520 My friend
00:19:02.500 I'm trying to be respectful here
00:19:03.680 I respect you
00:19:04.580 Did I say anything
00:19:05.920 This is reference to you
00:19:06.440 No you didn't at all
00:19:07.040 So you're not
00:19:07.660 You know what you're doing
00:19:08.620 You are too occupied
00:19:10.660 And focused about
00:19:11.600 You think I'm trying to
00:19:12.680 Catch you out
00:19:13.160 I'm not
00:19:13.620 I'm trying to have
00:19:14.200 A rational discussion
00:19:15.020 I completely
00:19:15.580 What are you saying
00:19:16.260 Let me tell you something
00:19:16.760 Are you guys
00:19:17.560 Have you gone to university
00:19:19.040 No I'm going to university
00:19:20.560 Okay good
00:19:21.000 My friend
00:19:21.620 Genuinely
00:19:22.340 I don't mean this
00:19:24.300 In a disrespectful way
00:19:24.980 Yes I completely
00:19:25.880 If you take this film
00:19:27.060 If you take this film
00:19:27.080 And show it to your
00:19:28.160 Classmates
00:19:28.960 Rationally and logically
00:19:30.180 They'll say
00:19:30.480 What on earth are you guys
00:19:31.260 Talking about
00:19:32.300 Jade look I'm telling you
00:19:33.620 Go to your teacher
00:19:34.300 It's called the fallacy
00:19:35.500 Of infinite regress
00:19:36.440 My friend
00:19:36.860 It's so simple
00:19:37.960 You will never give
00:19:39.520 The ten pounds
00:19:40.280 If there's an infinite
00:19:41.260 Regress of asking
00:19:42.200 People for permission
00:19:42.880 Can I ask
00:19:43.380 Can I have the relation
00:19:44.500 Can I ask the relation
00:19:45.660 Okay
00:19:46.020 I'm just going to say
00:19:47.800 Yes
00:19:48.260 When you approach us
00:19:49.260 Because you're talking
00:19:49.760 About us for being
00:19:50.720 Reliant on other people
00:19:52.040 And reliant on not
00:19:53.100 Good logic
00:19:53.800 When you approach us
00:19:55.120 You ask
00:19:55.920 Do you think
00:19:56.300 The universal independence
00:19:57.200 Do you think
00:19:57.540 As creator
00:19:57.940 Yes
00:19:58.280 That is
00:19:59.340 A GCSE
00:20:01.080 RS argument
00:20:02.040 I don't care
00:20:02.740 If it's GCSE
00:20:03.600 Or ABC
00:20:04.260 It's an argument
00:20:05.560 It's an argument
00:20:07.400 How does that
00:20:09.300 Make it wrong
00:20:09.980 Okay
00:20:10.500 This argument
00:20:11.400 Okay one second
00:20:12.660 The building is made
00:20:13.940 Of bricks
00:20:14.380 So it doesn't make sense
00:20:15.700 Listen listen
00:20:16.500 My friend
00:20:16.840 You have to defend
00:20:17.560 Your position
00:20:17.980 I can't come and say
00:20:19.000 Hey I'm not going to
00:20:19.780 Answer you
00:20:20.300 Because it's GCSE
00:20:21.500 I don't give a damn
00:20:22.380 If it's ABC
00:20:22.860 I'm sorry
00:20:23.840 I'm not trying to
00:20:24.540 No no no
00:20:25.320 One second
00:20:25.700 It's all good
00:20:26.200 Listen
00:20:26.480 Rationally and logically
00:20:28.000 The question is very simple
00:20:29.540 The universe
00:20:30.860 Is either dependent
00:20:32.540 Or independent
00:20:33.060 I proved it's dependent
00:20:33.980 What does it depend on
00:20:35.100 You didn't prove it's dependent
00:20:35.980 It did
00:20:36.220 You attacked
00:20:37.100 Okay no problem
00:20:37.700 You attacked
00:20:38.440 Okay
00:20:38.960 Where did the universe come from
00:20:41.000 Huh
00:20:41.280 Where did God come from
00:20:42.580 The big bag
00:20:43.140 The big bag
00:20:43.620 The big bag
00:20:44.100 God is independent
00:20:46.460 The universe
00:20:47.460 My argument
00:20:48.240 The universe is independent
00:20:49.460 Where's the evidence
00:20:49.980 What's the evidence
00:20:51.600 God is independent
00:20:52.300 Thank you
00:20:52.920 Perfect
00:20:53.640 Thank you
00:20:54.420 You know what
00:20:55.040 Because I told you
00:20:55.920 There are two types of existence
00:20:56.800 You told us
00:20:57.480 One second
00:20:57.920 One second
00:20:58.840 Did you guys not agree
00:21:00.240 That there is two types of existence
00:21:01.780 I agree
00:21:02.260 Dependent and independent
00:21:03.320 Good
00:21:03.920 You've talked about this
00:21:04.940 One second
00:21:05.620 One second
00:21:06.040 One second
00:21:06.320 One second
00:21:06.540 No no no
00:21:07.520 One second
00:21:07.880 Okay I'll talk to you
00:21:08.540 Dependent or independent
00:21:09.600 I've told you
00:21:10.600 Anything
00:21:11.260 That relies on something else
00:21:12.900 For its existence
00:21:14.200 Is dependent
00:21:14.700 Perfect
00:21:15.820 And I said to you
00:21:16.860 Anything that is made out of pieces
00:21:18.380 And can be any other way
00:21:19.800 Can the universe be any other way
00:21:21.400 Yes
00:21:23.000 Good
00:21:23.460 Can you have four extra galaxies
00:21:24.860 Yeah
00:21:25.940 Four minus galaxies
00:21:27.540 Yes
00:21:28.100 Perfect
00:21:28.540 Which means it is dependent
00:21:29.840 Which means it is dependent
00:21:29.860 That's quite a big jump
00:21:33.960 One second
00:21:34.320 Yeah
00:21:34.540 He agreed
00:21:35.620 Look I said to him
00:21:36.620 Can anything that can be any other way is dependent
00:21:40.660 He goes yeah
00:21:41.320 No
00:21:41.720 You said
00:21:42.260 You said
00:21:42.860 Does anything that consists of parts
00:21:44.620 Is that dependent
00:21:45.280 I said yes
00:21:46.160 Then you said
00:21:46.960 I never said
00:21:47.700 If anything could be any other way
00:21:49.220 Does that mean
00:21:49.660 Good
00:21:50.040 Okay now
00:21:50.600 Ask again
00:21:51.180 Can God be any other way
00:21:52.460 That's a question to you
00:21:53.300 No
00:21:53.520 Wait
00:21:54.000 No
00:21:54.300 No
00:21:54.640 Thank you
00:21:55.920 That's my point
00:21:56.500 No
00:21:57.060 Why not
00:21:57.540 Because it is necessary
00:21:58.360 Why not
00:21:58.820 Because it is necessary
00:21:59.860 The universe is necessary
00:22:00.660 Good
00:22:01.420 No it's not
00:22:02.240 Because the universe
00:22:03.000 What is it
00:22:03.240 What is it
00:22:04.040 One second
00:22:04.420 One second
00:22:05.100 You said
00:22:05.620 The universe is necessary
00:22:06.820 Yeah
00:22:07.020 Okay
00:22:07.540 Can there be less galaxies in the universe
00:22:09.440 Yes
00:22:09.760 So it is basically dependent
00:22:10.620 So it can't be necessary
00:22:11.960 Why can't God be necessary
00:22:12.720 Because it can be any other way
00:22:13.640 Thank you
00:22:14.420 Can God
00:22:14.920 Thank you
00:22:15.640 Now you understand
00:22:17.800 Can God have one less finger
00:22:19.160 God doesn't have a finger
00:22:20.620 There we go
00:22:21.520 Universe is more galaxy
00:22:22.660 Thank you
00:22:23.440 Do you see
00:22:23.760 The universe is composed of pieces
00:22:25.420 It can be any other way
00:22:26.420 God is composed of pieces
00:22:26.880 You know
00:22:27.160 No it's not
00:22:28.060 How
00:22:28.940 How
00:22:29.240 How can you prove it
00:22:30.700 Prove to me
00:22:31.900 Prove to me
00:22:32.520 Prove to me it's composed of pieces
00:22:33.040 Wait wait wait
00:22:34.680 You know what it is
00:22:36.440 Bro
00:22:36.600 We don't do this yet
00:22:37.280 You know
00:22:37.960 You know
00:22:38.300 You know
00:22:38.660 You know
00:22:39.340 You know
00:22:39.720 You know
00:22:40.320 You know
00:22:40.560 You know
00:22:41.160 You know why you're behaving like this
00:22:42.340 You know why you're doing this
00:22:42.980 Because you guys are too focused
00:22:44.840 Instead of following the truth
00:22:46.240 No no
00:22:46.780 Instead of the truth
00:22:47.400 You are too focused on
00:22:48.840 You think I'm trying to catch you out
00:22:50.220 No I promise
00:22:50.840 You do
00:22:51.100 And that's why you're discreet with
00:22:52.560 Most magical things
00:22:53.420 I'm saying
00:22:54.520 Can something come from nothing
00:22:55.480 Please
00:22:55.800 Please answer my question
00:22:56.680 And can I take talk
00:22:57.660 I've got a
00:22:58.180 I've got a debating channel
00:22:59.100 My uncle runs a debating channel
00:23:00.100 I will happily debate you then
00:23:01.020 No I'm debating now
00:23:01.740 No I will happily debate you then
00:23:03.240 You debate me now
00:23:03.700 Well
00:23:04.320 Can something come from nothing
00:23:05.180 I'm
00:23:05.660 Can something come from nothing
00:23:06.880 Can something come from nothing
00:23:08.440 Can the big bang
00:23:09.260 Can the big bang exist
00:23:10.460 Can something come from nothing
00:23:11.840 Which is what you're getting at
00:23:12.980 Yes
00:23:13.380 Yes
00:23:15.420 Something can come from nothing
00:23:17.340 Yes
00:23:18.800 When you're all about science
00:23:20.620 Do you know
00:23:21.360 Do you know what nothing is
00:23:22.740 Do you know what nothing is
00:23:24.240 What's the definition of nothing
00:23:25.380 Nothing
00:23:25.860 No
00:23:26.420 Nothing
00:23:27.340 No
00:23:27.680 The absence of something
00:23:28.780 Thank you
00:23:29.300 The absence of something
00:23:30.180 Now
00:23:30.380 How can the absence of something
00:23:31.900 So then where did it come from
00:23:32.740 One second
00:23:33.000 No no no
00:23:33.760 One second
00:23:34.740 One second
00:23:35.480 One second
00:23:36.220 One second
00:23:37.480 One second
00:23:37.840 One second
00:23:38.560 One second my friend
00:23:38.900 Can something come from nothing
00:23:40.620 You said
00:23:40.980 You said yes
00:23:41.820 Brother
00:23:42.520 Brother
00:23:42.760 Please don't get involved
00:23:43.700 I said can something come from nothing
00:23:45.960 You said what
00:23:46.560 Yes
00:23:47.040 Prove it to me please
00:23:48.200 Where did God come from then
00:23:50.240 Brother you're jumping the question
00:23:51.760 I'm asking you
00:23:52.420 No no no no
00:23:53.420 Answer this will come to
00:23:54.440 Who created the God
00:23:55.120 Now
00:23:55.540 I'm asking you a question
00:23:56.500 Can something come from nothing
00:23:57.540 Wait wait wait wait
00:23:58.200 Please please please
00:23:59.080 Just hear me out before
00:23:59.860 Like okay
00:24:00.540 Let's say I try and answer this
00:24:02.520 And I fail
00:24:03.120 Then you're
00:24:03.920 I don't care about fail
00:24:04.520 Just answer it
00:24:05.020 Wait please
00:24:05.740 Let's say I answer this and I fail
00:24:07.320 Your ultimate argument
00:24:08.300 Is going to be that God created
00:24:09.600 Where did God come from then
00:24:10.960 Don't worry about my argument
00:24:11.740 Answer the question
00:24:12.580 We'll come to that
00:24:13.240 Can something come from nothing
00:24:14.500 You said yes
00:24:14.980 Show me how
00:24:15.460 Can something come from nothing
00:24:17.440 Where did God come from then
00:24:18.320 I know this is going to sound so unclear
00:24:19.820 I'm going to
00:24:20.200 Come to God
00:24:20.660 I'm asking you
00:24:21.680 Can something come from nothing
00:24:22.460 He can't show you
00:24:23.320 How that's the point
00:24:24.260 Of something coming from nothing
00:24:25.260 It's irrational
00:24:26.260 If Einstein was here
00:24:27.180 He would run for his life
00:24:28.220 Einstein would say
00:24:30.000 Something could come from
00:24:30.600 Zero can equal one
00:24:32.000 Have you done maths
00:24:33.180 Have you done maths
00:24:34.920 Can zero equal one
00:24:36.180 Where did God come from
00:24:36.940 My friend
00:24:37.400 We will come to that
00:24:38.640 We will know
00:24:40.680 You're running out
00:24:42.060 You're running
00:24:43.040 You're running
00:24:44.000 You know why
00:24:44.560 Because you know
00:24:45.200 You're intellectually
00:24:45.880 You know you got
00:24:47.140 Intellectually destroyed
00:24:48.160 You got intellectually debunked
00:24:50.300 We're both going to
00:24:51.080 Shut up
00:24:51.320 Perfect
00:24:52.700 Good
00:24:53.080 No no no no
00:24:53.800 No no no no
00:24:55.020 No no no no
00:24:55.800 You said
00:24:56.900 You said
00:24:56.920 The universe can come from nothing
00:24:58.940 Talk about you
00:24:59.600 How
00:24:59.840 Not me
00:25:00.400 Talk about you
00:25:02.080 How
00:25:02.560 Talk about you
00:25:03.380 Where did God come from
00:25:04.120 No no no
00:25:04.520 I'm asking you
00:25:05.260 You said something can come from nothing
00:25:06.880 Prove it please
00:25:07.380 And we've tried to explain that
00:25:08.780 And we said
00:25:09.220 Okay give me an example
00:25:10.520 In order to debunk our thesis
00:25:12.640 You need to explain your thesis
00:25:14.580 You don't answer a question with another question
00:25:16.320 Where did
00:25:17.120 How could something come from nothing
00:25:18.180 The whole point is
00:25:19.260 How could something come from nothing
00:25:20.640 It's irrational
00:25:21.760 How could something come from nothing
00:25:23.480 Where did God come from
00:25:24.300 My friend
00:25:24.740 I'm asking you about the creation
00:25:26.520 You can't
00:25:26.800 You're
00:25:27.560 You keep asking
00:25:28.800 How can something come from nothing
00:25:32.800 How can something come from nothing
00:25:34.280 You can't
00:25:35.180 Look how many people are
00:25:35.940 How can something come from nothing
00:25:36.860 Can I just say
00:25:37.380 You can't answer your own
00:25:38.340 How can something come from nothing
00:25:39.620 You're asking me the same question
00:25:40.760 Over and over again
00:25:41.560 You're going to get us clipped
00:25:42.440 You can't answer
00:25:43.080 That's already done
00:25:44.720 That's already finished
00:25:45.720 Listen
00:25:46.120 I'll be honest
00:25:46.700 You guys have to be the most
00:25:47.820 Irrational people I've thought
00:25:48.860 In my life
00:25:49.320 Can you answer my question
00:25:50.360 No because you haven't
00:25:51.280 Answered my question
00:25:52.040 You can't answer my question
00:25:52.580 Listen my friend
00:25:53.180 Something cannot come from nothing
00:25:55.160 So if something cannot
00:25:56.360 One second
00:25:56.800 One second
00:25:57.180 One second
00:25:57.540 If something
00:25:58.440 cannot come from nothing, that means the universe was created by something, correct?
00:26:02.040 Where did that something come from? I repeat, good, perfect. Now, the universe began to exist.
00:26:07.960 It didn't come from nothing. We have four possibilities. It either came from nothing,
00:26:12.600 hear me out, the universe, the big bang, yeah? Okay, good. There's four possibilities.
00:26:17.960 The universe came from nothing. The universe popped by chance. The universe was created by
00:26:24.600 something that is created, or the universe was created by something that is uncreated.
00:26:31.320 Do you accept those four clauses? No, because, okay, first, exactly what I was going to say,
00:26:34.920 first two were the same. If it was created by chance or it was created by nothing,
00:26:37.960 either way there was nothing. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I repeat again,
00:26:42.760 either the universe came from nothing, either the universe was infinite, always there,
00:26:47.080 either the universe was created by something else that is created, or the universe was created by
00:26:52.120 something uncreated. Okay, so it's three. Four, four. So, let's go one by one.
00:26:57.320 I didn't hear that again. He's saying, he's saying, universe created from nothing,
00:27:00.120 universe was always there. What is there? Universe created by something that was created,
00:27:04.200 universe that was created by something uncreated. Okay, perfect, perfect.
00:27:07.480 First one. Now, the first one. Can the universe come from nothing?
00:27:12.200 What's your definition of nothing? Absence of something. Absence of something.
00:27:14.520 Okay, so absolutely, like genuinely nothing. No, no.
00:27:17.640 Yes. Then, well, this is separate. We're not the same people. We have different arguments.
00:27:21.640 No, no, no. What's yours? What's it?
00:27:24.360 When you talk about absolutely nothing. My friend, it's such an easy answer, man.
00:27:27.480 I know, but you have to- Are you kidding me?
00:27:29.080 Okay, okay, please. Let's not be disrespectful here.
00:27:30.840 I'm not being disrespectful. We have a crowd of 40 something plus people.
00:27:33.640 My friend, who cares about the crowd? Look, look, brother, brother,
00:27:36.440 I'm not here for these people. I don't give a damn about what they think.
00:27:39.480 When you're talking about nothing. I'm here for the truth.
00:27:40.760 Okay, created by nothing. Can something come from nothing?
00:27:42.760 Yes. And that's why I would say yes.
00:27:44.360 Prove it. Prove it. Okay, prove that.
00:27:46.120 If you prove it. Prove option four.
00:27:47.720 If you prove it, I'm going to become an atheist. Prove option four.
00:27:49.640 Prove option four. Can I say one thing?
00:27:51.640 Look, look, we're going to go from them one by one. He's jumping.
00:27:54.360 My friend. The first one is, can it come from nothing?
00:27:57.000 Let me say one to this.
00:27:58.840 Can, look, look. You said it can come from something.
00:28:01.160 My brother, my brother. Prove it.
00:28:02.200 I said it can come from nothing. Prove God comes from nothing.
00:28:04.840 And then, as soon as you answer that, I'll get on my knees and praise you a lot.
00:28:08.440 My brother, you've been talking about infinite regression, yes?
00:28:11.000 The infinite regression. Have you been talking about that, yes or no?
00:28:13.880 Yeah. Okay, so if you keep infinitely regressing, I could say...
00:28:18.440 So you're saying the universe came from something.
00:28:21.320 If you keep infinitely regressing, where did that came from?
00:28:24.440 I've just turned your whole argument against you.
00:28:26.280 No, you haven't, my friend. I have.
00:28:27.160 You know what's the fallacy of infinite regression?
00:28:29.000 Exactly. It's a fallacy. Exactly.
00:28:30.920 What exactly?
00:28:31.560 You just said it's a fallacy.
00:28:32.760 So, do you agree something can come from nothing?
00:28:34.600 Yes.
00:28:35.320 Okay, prove it.
00:28:36.440 What do you mean, prove it?
00:28:37.480 My friend, if you say...
00:28:38.600 Okay, where did the universe come from?
00:28:39.640 In your opinion, where did the universe come from?
00:28:41.640 I had four options. We're going through them one by one.
00:28:44.440 What's your option?
00:28:45.240 Look, look, the first one is that it came from nothing.
00:28:47.720 My brother, you're trying.
00:28:49.720 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:28:50.840 My friend, prove to me, you said, you said...
00:28:54.120 You're asking silly questions that you can't answer yourself.
00:28:56.920 My friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend.
00:29:00.040 Can you, can you, can you...
00:29:01.800 Where did God come from?
00:29:02.600 Can you guys go there?
00:29:03.640 My friend, my friend.
00:29:04.520 No one can answer it.
00:29:05.320 No, no, we can. I can. I can. I can.
00:29:07.800 You are afraid to answer this.
00:29:09.080 No one can answer it.
00:29:09.640 Because you know, you know it makes sense.
00:29:11.000 I can't answer it and you can't answer it.
00:29:12.600 I can, I can.
00:29:14.040 My friend, that's the reason why I gave you four options.
00:29:17.400 You're afraid to answer this.
00:29:19.080 Can something come from nothing?
00:29:20.040 It's unanswerable.
00:29:20.920 I'm saying I can't answer where the universe came from.
00:29:23.000 Good. Now, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:29:23.720 You can't answer where God came from.
00:29:24.360 Can it come from nothing?
00:29:26.520 Huh?
00:29:27.000 Yes.
00:29:27.880 Prove it.
00:29:28.600 Prove where God came from.
00:29:29.640 No.
00:29:30.120 Can God come from nothing?
00:29:31.240 Bruv, you're intellectually bankrupt.
00:29:32.200 Can God come from nothing?
00:29:33.240 Can I tell you something?
00:29:33.800 A five-year-old would know better than you.
00:29:35.640 My friend, he's probably more...
00:29:36.760 Look, he's a clever man.
00:29:39.640 From nothing.
00:29:40.280 Thank you, bro, man.
00:29:41.400 Look, forget this, bro.
00:29:42.520 Can something come from nothing?
00:29:43.640 Can something come from nothing?
00:29:44.840 Yes.
00:29:45.160 From nothing, something comes.
00:29:46.440 No, no, no.
00:29:47.080 Thank you, bro.
00:29:48.120 Bro, let's ask.
00:29:48.680 You know what?
00:29:49.160 Forget this guy.
00:29:49.640 Let's ask the crowd.
00:29:50.680 Bruv, can something come from nothing?
00:29:52.360 Can something come from nothing?
00:29:53.400 I hate those feelings.
00:29:54.440 Okay, let's speak to this.
00:29:55.160 Bruv, can something come from nothing?
00:29:56.840 No.
00:29:57.320 Bruv, look, I swear to God, dear.
00:29:59.400 I would ask everybody.
00:30:01.000 Look, look, look.
00:30:01.720 I'll ask him.
00:30:02.360 What's your name?
00:30:04.200 Brother, can something come from nothing?
00:30:05.800 Ah, no, never.
00:30:06.440 Thank you.
00:30:07.880 Bruv, it's simple.
00:30:08.840 No, no, no, no.
00:30:10.120 Brother, brother, brother, brother.
00:30:11.480 Well, I, I tell you, I swear to God, if I stop the five-year-old, they'll say no.
00:30:15.480 No.
00:30:16.040 Brother, it's a logic.
00:30:17.240 You know, zero.
00:30:18.440 Zero, can I call one?
00:30:19.400 It's something that started.
00:30:20.520 Thank you.
00:30:21.320 There has to be.
00:30:21.800 Bro, thank you.
00:30:22.600 Otherwise, you're going to go back.
00:30:23.400 Yeah, thank you.
00:30:24.120 No, not only that, not only that.
00:30:25.080 Bro, he can't answer.
00:30:26.120 Confirmation wise.
00:30:26.600 Thank you, thank you.
00:30:27.720 Okay, no problem.
00:30:28.520 Let's stop someone random.
00:30:29.400 Let's stop someone random.
00:30:30.360 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:30:31.160 Stop someone random.
00:30:32.040 You stop someone.
00:30:32.840 You stop someone.
00:30:33.640 Okay, you stop someone.
00:30:34.600 You stop someone.
00:30:35.240 Okay, stop someone.
00:30:35.960 Stop someone.
00:30:37.000 Okay, no, no, no.
00:30:37.640 One second, one second.
00:30:38.360 Stop anyone.
00:30:39.320 Anyone.
00:30:39.880 My brother.
00:30:40.440 Anyone.
00:30:40.840 Now, now you're arguing.
00:30:41.560 Anyone.
00:30:41.960 Thank you.
00:30:42.840 Thank you.
00:30:43.240 You're trying to embarrass me.
00:30:44.120 You're trying to embarrass me.
00:30:45.320 No, I'm not.
00:30:45.880 No, I'm not.
00:30:47.000 Don't try it.
00:30:47.720 Don't try it.
00:30:48.440 Bro, I'm going to stop someone.
00:30:49.960 You're trying to maybe stop someone and ask an irrational question.
00:30:51.960 Thank you.
00:30:52.840 And what are you going to say?
00:30:53.880 The whole point of the argument is an irrational question.
00:30:55.800 Look, let's stop.
00:30:55.880 I'm going to stop someone.
00:30:56.760 I'm going to stop someone.
00:30:57.960 I'm going to stop someone.
00:30:58.520 Come, come.
00:30:59.080 Let's stop someone.
00:30:59.640 Come, come, come, come.
00:31:01.160 No, no, I'll be here.
00:31:03.160 Let me, let me stop someone.
00:31:05.640 Excuse me, sir.
00:31:08.200 Let me see someone's English, yeah?
00:31:10.360 Can I ask you a question?
00:31:12.360 Do you speak English?
00:31:14.200 Can I ask you a question?
00:31:16.840 My friend, can I ask you a quick question?
00:31:18.120 Ah, no, I'm good, thanks.
00:31:19.080 Can I ask you a quick question?
00:31:20.360 Just a simple, logical question.
00:31:23.080 Watch this now, yeah?
00:31:23.800 Watch this, bro.
00:31:24.280 Just look.
00:31:24.840 Watch and see.
00:31:26.120 I'm going to stop someone random.
00:31:27.240 You're going to ask.
00:31:28.040 No, no, no.
00:31:28.440 You're going to ask.
00:31:29.080 You're going to ask.
00:31:30.440 No, I'm not.
00:31:30.840 You're going to ask.
00:31:31.240 Not even me.
00:31:32.600 Hello, can I ask you a quick question?
00:31:36.120 I'm going to stop somebody and we're going to ask them something so simple.
00:31:39.960 Can something come from nothing?
00:31:42.680 If they have rationality and logic, they'll say, no, it's simple.
00:31:46.520 And then I'm going to ask them where God came from.
00:31:49.000 My friend, I'm not even talking about God.
00:31:51.880 I'm saying, can something come from nothing?
00:31:53.960 What did God come from?
00:31:55.400 My friend, I'm not talking about God.
00:31:57.720 This whole time you've been avoiding my one of the time who's breaked your whole life.
00:32:02.120 My friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend,
00:32:05.960 I'm not even talking about God.
00:32:08.520 What are you talking about then?
00:32:08.760 I'm asking a very simple question.
00:32:11.080 Can something come from nothing?
00:32:12.680 Thank you.
00:32:14.280 Go to the mental hospital, bro. 0.94
00:32:15.480 It has to be.
00:32:15.800 Go to a mental hospital, bro. 0.95
00:32:16.920 Look, I'll stop someone.
00:32:18.280 My friend, can I ask you a quick question?
00:32:19.320 You just lost the whole argument.
00:32:20.280 Can I ask you a quick question?
00:32:22.440 Thank you.
00:32:22.920 Yes.
00:32:23.320 Brother, are you religious?
00:32:26.120 No.
00:32:26.520 Are you atheist or agnostic?
00:32:30.280 Nothing.
00:32:30.840 Simple question.
00:32:31.640 Simple question.
00:32:32.280 Simple question.
00:32:32.920 Can I ask it?
00:32:34.040 Can something come from nothing?
00:32:35.720 Yes.
00:32:36.920 Yes.
00:32:37.320 Yes.
00:32:37.720 Okay.
00:32:38.040 And that's my argument as well.
00:32:39.640 Perfect.
00:32:39.960 Can you prove that something comes from nothing?
00:32:41.160 He's asking, can I prove it?
00:32:42.440 But when I ask him, where does God come from?
00:32:45.320 He can't answer.
00:32:46.120 Perfect.
00:32:46.360 No problem.
00:32:46.920 Now, watch this.
00:32:48.120 You believe something can come from nothing, yeah?
00:32:49.800 Yes.
00:32:50.040 Okay.
00:32:50.360 Can you show me what that is, please?
00:32:52.680 What?
00:32:53.160 Can you demonstrate to me?
00:32:54.040 Tell me what is one thing that came from nothing.
00:32:56.440 Exactly.
00:32:56.840 He's asking you an impossible question.
00:32:58.680 What's it?
00:32:59.080 You're asking an impossible question.
00:33:00.440 My friend, my friend, my friend.
00:33:01.080 You're embarrassing.
00:33:01.400 My friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, how do you feel?
00:33:03.720 My friend, my friend, my friend, be quiet and let the man answer.
00:33:08.120 Sorry.
00:33:08.680 Have some respect.
00:33:09.480 He's asking you an impossible question.
00:33:10.120 I'm sorry.
00:33:10.200 Have some respect, man.
00:33:12.280 Can something come from nothing?
00:33:13.400 I have respect.
00:33:13.480 You don't.
00:33:14.120 We'll see.
00:33:15.080 You said yes.
00:33:16.520 Can you tell me what can come from nothing?
00:33:18.840 Every time I speak, it comes from basically nothing, right?
00:33:22.040 So it doesn't come from your tongue and you're talking, your vocal cords.
00:33:25.080 So your vocal cords are nothing.
00:33:28.280 I mean the idea to speak.
00:33:30.520 No, no, no.
00:33:31.320 Nothing is the absence of something.
00:33:34.280 Nothing means zero.
00:33:35.320 Can zero equal one?
00:33:37.560 No.
00:33:38.040 Thank you.
00:33:39.800 My brother, you're changing and changing the question to embarrass these people
00:33:43.960 by asking them an impossible question.
00:33:45.720 I thought so.
00:33:46.040 Thank you for your honesty.
00:33:46.840 Zero cannot equal one.
00:33:48.440 That's my whole point.
00:33:49.880 All I'm saying is this.
00:33:51.400 Zero cannot equal one.
00:33:52.920 Thank you.
00:33:53.960 Thank you.
00:33:54.920 Thank you very much.
00:33:55.960 Thank you, brother.
00:33:56.840 Is he shaking my hand, man?
00:33:57.560 What do you mean?
00:33:57.880 No, no.
00:33:58.600 Thank you.
00:33:59.080 Zero cannot equal one, man.
00:34:00.040 Go to school, bro.
00:34:01.560 Go.
00:34:01.720 I'll stop another person.
00:34:03.080 My friend, can I ask you a question?
00:34:04.280 He's asking impossible questions.
00:34:05.960 Good question.
00:34:06.760 Just, okay.
00:34:08.200 Can something come from nothing?
00:34:13.080 No, like absolute nothing.
00:34:14.440 Somethings.
00:34:16.200 In theory, no.
00:34:17.720 Thank you.
00:34:18.280 Can zero equal one?
00:34:20.360 I don't know.
00:34:20.840 It might be able to.
00:34:22.200 It might not be able to.
00:34:22.920 Zero.
00:34:23.960 Can it ever equal one?
00:34:25.480 Like zero plus zero plus zero could ever make one?
00:34:27.400 It's not what we're asking.
00:34:28.600 One second.
00:34:29.000 I'm asking.
00:34:29.320 I'm talking to him.
00:34:29.800 Can you, can you let the guy speak?
00:34:30.920 If you add something to it, yeah.
00:34:32.600 Thank you.
00:34:33.000 But if you don't?
00:34:34.760 Zero.
00:34:35.320 Thank you.
00:34:37.080 Thank you.
00:34:37.400 Can I ask you now?
00:34:37.960 Thank you.
00:34:38.360 What do you mean?
00:34:38.680 Thank you.
00:34:39.160 Thank you.
00:34:40.120 Hello.
00:34:40.440 Can I ask you a question?
00:34:41.720 Quick question.
00:34:42.920 Can I ask you a quick question?
00:34:44.520 What's your name, madam? 0.58
00:34:45.240 Irina.
00:34:46.040 Irina.
00:34:47.160 Can, do you think something can come from nothing?
00:34:51.000 Can something come from nothing?
00:34:52.120 Exactly.
00:34:52.520 Can you speak English?
00:34:55.400 He's saying.
00:34:55.880 No.
00:34:56.360 Okay.
00:34:56.840 Okay.
00:34:57.240 Okay.
00:34:57.640 Okay.
00:34:57.800 Sorry.
00:34:58.840 Sorry.
00:34:59.240 We're from Ukraine.
00:35:00.120 Assalamu alaikum.
00:35:01.320 Wa alaikum salam.
00:35:01.800 How are you doing, brother?
00:35:02.280 Are you a Muslim Christian?
00:35:03.880 Christian.
00:35:04.360 Christian.
00:35:04.760 Okay.
00:35:05.000 He's a Christian.
00:35:05.640 Can we go back to him?
00:35:06.440 Can something come from nothing?
00:35:10.120 Thank you.
00:35:11.480 Thank you.
00:35:12.040 My brother.
00:35:12.680 My friend, can something come from nothing?
00:35:14.840 Yeah.
00:35:15.960 Can something come from nothing?
00:35:17.320 Oh, nothing.
00:35:17.480 No, no.
00:35:17.880 Thank you, man.
00:35:18.600 My brother.
00:35:19.160 Thank you, man.
00:35:20.040 My brother, you're avoiding him now.
00:35:21.480 You're avoiding him now.
00:35:22.520 Look, look, look.
00:35:23.080 Let's see what he has to say.
00:35:23.880 Let's see what he has to say.
00:35:24.680 I want you to expand on what you mean.
00:35:25.880 Exactly.
00:35:26.120 Perfect.
00:35:26.440 Perfect.
00:35:26.840 Perfect.
00:35:27.480 Something.
00:35:27.880 Okay.
00:35:28.280 Nothing is the absence of anything.
00:35:31.320 Nothingness.
00:35:32.920 In that nothingness, can you get something?
00:35:36.120 Well, it depends.
00:35:38.120 I want more context in terms of what?
00:35:40.120 It's very simple.
00:35:41.320 The absolute nothingness.
00:35:43.240 Not atoms.
00:35:44.360 Nothing.
00:35:44.840 Zero.
00:35:45.720 Can you get something from that?
00:35:47.960 If there's completely nothing.
00:35:49.000 Yeah, it's completely nothing.
00:35:50.360 I want to know what you're trying to correlate to.
00:35:52.520 I'm not calling it nothing.
00:35:53.160 I'm just saying it's completely nothing.
00:35:54.120 Can you get something?
00:35:54.760 But you're going to use his answer in the context of a completely different question.
00:35:57.880 One second.
00:35:57.960 My friend, one second.
00:35:58.440 Very simple.
00:35:58.920 Yes.
00:35:59.240 In the absolute of nothingness, can you get something?
00:36:03.240 I need the context.
00:36:03.880 I need the context.
00:36:05.080 My friend, I just gave you the context.
00:36:06.520 No, you haven't.
00:36:10.280 Absolute nothingness.
00:36:14.040 Can you get something out of that?
00:36:16.360 If it's absolute nothingness, no.
00:36:18.200 Thank you.
00:36:20.280 That's not what I said.
00:36:21.000 What do you mean?
00:36:21.320 Thank you.
00:36:21.720 No, it's not.
00:36:22.360 It's not that.
00:36:22.680 Okay, good.
00:36:23.080 Good.
00:36:23.480 What's your name?
00:36:24.360 What's your name, brother?
00:36:24.920 Morgan.
00:36:25.320 Morgan.
00:36:25.880 Yeah.
00:36:26.360 Let me use the argument with you.
00:36:28.680 We say the universe began to exist.
00:36:30.520 Yeah, so that's where you're trying to get from.
00:36:31.880 Thank you.
00:36:32.440 Now, there's four possibilities.
00:36:33.640 That's the context.
00:36:34.120 Now, there's four possibilities.
00:36:35.080 That's the context.
00:36:35.720 That's the context.
00:36:35.800 That's the context.
00:36:35.880 That's the context.
00:36:36.040 That's the context.
00:36:36.440 Don't ask the question without context.
00:36:37.400 There's four possibilities.
00:36:38.920 It either came from nothing.
00:36:40.680 It either was always there.
00:36:41.880 Yeah.
00:36:42.440 It either was created by something else that's created, or it was created by something uncreated.
00:36:47.880 Does that make sense?
00:36:48.680 I believe there was something before.
00:36:51.080 There wasn't nothing.
00:36:52.040 So, so, so.
00:36:52.520 Good, good.
00:36:52.920 So, you believe that it was always there?
00:36:55.080 Infinite?
00:36:55.480 I would say it's infinite, but it was something there.
00:36:57.960 Okay.
00:36:58.200 Okay.
00:36:59.160 Either it came from nothing.
00:37:00.440 Either it was always there.
00:37:01.880 Either it was created by something created, or it was created by something uncreated.
00:37:05.080 It was always there.
00:37:06.680 Does that make sense?
00:37:07.080 Thank you much.
00:37:07.880 It was always there.
00:37:08.440 Yeah.
00:37:08.600 Completely wrong.
00:37:09.400 Yeah, yeah.
00:37:09.960 Go back to school, mate.
00:37:10.920 Go back to school.