Ali Dawah - June 03, 2021


ATHEIST GIRL PROVES GOD EXISTS & WINS AIRPODS


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10 minutes

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2,339

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240

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Misogyny

3

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8

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In this episode, we put atheists in the shoes of theists and challenged them to come up with the best argument for God. Georgia won the challenge and was given Airpods. Georgia's argument was so convincing that we awarded her with an Airpod.

Transcript

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00:00:00.080 I want to say a big thank you to Tropics Foods for giving one of the airpods to this experiment.
00:00:04.980 Guys, you better add some flavour in your life. Check out Tropics.
00:00:11.520 Okay guys, so basically yesterday we had a social experiment that we did
00:00:15.000 where we got atheists to put themselves in the shoes of theists 1.00
00:00:18.880 and give us the best argument for God.
00:00:21.140 So today, the challenge was that whoever wins will get airpods, right?
00:00:26.200 So our first winner is Georgia.
00:00:28.540 Georgia?
00:00:29.100 Yeah.
00:00:29.460 How are you doing?
00:00:30.220 I'm doing great.
00:00:30.960 That's good.
00:00:31.600 Georgia, you gave very good convincing arguments, yeah?
00:00:34.140 I was listening to it, I was going through it, and I found it really convincing.
00:00:38.600 So you said that on your way home you forced some other ideas?
00:00:42.800 Yeah, I did.
00:00:43.240 What was it?
00:00:44.260 I was talking about human evolution and how humans cannot evolve from simple nuclear fusion
00:00:49.580 between hydrogen and helium.
00:00:51.340 How could flesh, blood, skin, bones, everything be formed by just a single atom?
00:00:56.000 It doesn't seem physically possible.
00:00:57.340 As well as thinking about the fact that there must have been someone to put everyone onto
00:01:02.940 this earth, like the sea, the plants, the grass, everything, and not have just appeared
00:01:08.880 out of thin air.
00:01:10.120 I have never heard that argument, and that is, I think that's one of the best arguments
00:01:14.320 I've heard, because I talk to a lot of atheists, agnostics, that's what I do.
00:01:18.580 I'm a Muslim, so I call people to Islam, basically, give them, and that is, I'm going to listen to it, 1.00
00:01:23.680 I'm going to research that.
00:01:24.400 You've educated me something today.
00:01:26.280 I never saw it coming from that way.
00:01:28.220 So, you know, that's the reason why, because usually it was the normal AirPods, yeah?
00:01:32.540 These are the AirPods Pro, yeah?
00:01:34.120 Because of that argument, you deserve this AirPod Pro.
00:01:36.240 Thank you so much.
00:01:37.840 How do you feel?
00:01:38.380 I feel great.
00:01:39.320 This is amazing.
00:01:40.160 You really deserved it, because at the end of the day, you know, that argument in itself
00:01:42.620 was really good.
00:01:43.200 Now, what I wanted to ask you further is that, as an atheist, would you say you're still
00:01:48.960 an atheist, or the arguments you prove to us, or you put yourself in our shoes, how's
00:01:54.380 your stance on it now, thinking about it?
00:01:55.700 Because your arguments were quite convincing.
00:01:57.040 Did it not convince you?
00:01:58.280 I mean, in a way, I still believe in, like, obviously, science aspects, I'm quite a science
00:02:02.600 geek if you think about it, but, like, I still believe in, like, science aspects, but you've
00:02:07.000 also got, like, famous scientists out there that have believed in God, so it is possible
00:02:11.620 for there to be some sort of superior being that has brought us down onto this Earth,
00:02:16.020 that has created what we stand on today.
00:02:18.940 Even Charles Darwin, he believed in God.
00:02:21.340 He was a Christian.
00:02:23.300 So the thing is, what we're saying is, we don't believe, as Muslims, we don't believe 1.00
00:02:26.320 God to be a man.
00:02:28.320 We don't believe, we believe he's free from the creation.
00:02:31.620 He's not in the creation.
00:02:32.600 We don't believe he's a man.
00:02:33.760 Time and space.
00:02:34.700 Yeah, exactly.
00:02:35.320 So, because we believe there's nothing like him.
00:02:37.060 So the thing is, this concept, that the Christians do believe God is a man, but we believe
00:02:41.320 that goes against his very nature, because God is unlimited.
00:02:43.420 How could he be limited and come into a limited creation?
00:02:45.840 Yeah.
00:02:45.880 He's a, what's it called, trans, potent?
00:02:49.660 Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah, one of those, yeah.
00:02:51.160 So the thing is, you're very articulate and intelligent.
00:02:53.640 So, I would say, think about it, because at the end of the day, like you convinced us
00:02:58.280 with your argument, I think there is, you would agree that this whole universe cannot come
00:03:04.720 from nothing?
00:03:05.680 Yeah.
00:03:06.220 There has to be something.
00:03:07.280 There has to be a cause.
00:03:08.120 Yes, as I said.
00:03:09.260 So, yeah, so what we say is that that cause has to be God Almighty.
00:03:12.900 Yeah?
00:03:13.380 Yeah.
00:03:13.680 And he wants a relationship with you.
00:03:16.760 Like, for example, your mom and dad brought you to this age, right?
00:03:19.820 And imagine you turn around and say, nope, mom and dad, you did nothing for me.
00:03:23.580 And you totally deny them.
00:03:24.640 Yeah.
00:03:24.880 Yeah.
00:03:25.240 And even though you can say, yes, but I can see my mom and dad, I can speak to them.
00:03:27.980 Yeah.
00:03:28.100 But there are things, elements that we have in our life that we can't see.
00:03:30.880 Like, for example, gravity is something we can't see, we see the effects of.
00:03:33.580 Dark matter is something we cannot observe, but we see the effects of.
00:03:36.340 And so, has it convinced you to a point where you would say, you know, I would want to look
00:03:41.900 a bit more deep into it and maybe question my opinions as an atheist?
00:03:45.260 I have looked into it because I have had, I do have Muslim friends, I do have Christian
00:03:50.460 friends.
00:03:51.040 Yeah.
00:03:51.260 And I've always, like, kind of been pushed towards Islam more, only because of, like,
00:03:56.700 there's actually physical existing things.
00:03:58.440 For example, like the Kaaba.
00:03:59.720 Yeah.
00:03:59.800 And you have, like, the Quran as well that has never been translated because it doesn't
00:04:03.340 want to be translated wrong.
00:04:04.280 For example, like, the Bible, obviously I'm not being anything against them, but the
00:04:08.880 Bible has been translated in certain wrong ways, which has portrayed them to, like...
00:04:13.240 It's been corrupted.
00:04:14.160 Yeah.
00:04:14.360 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:14.760 Whereas, like, with the Quran, it's never been translated out of Arabic.
00:04:19.160 Yeah, it's been preserved in its original form.
00:04:21.440 So...
00:04:21.840 No, that's good.
00:04:23.420 And I hope that you can look into it further.
00:04:25.660 I was going to give you a Quran.
00:04:27.060 I don't know if you have one.
00:04:27.520 Do you have a Quran?
00:04:28.600 I do not have Quran.
00:04:29.460 Okay.
00:04:29.920 If you want, I can get you one.
00:04:31.920 Or if you have the time, try to get one and read it for yourself.
00:04:35.860 Yeah.
00:04:36.340 So, thank you for your time.
00:04:37.140 Thanks for taking part in it.
00:04:38.600 And as well as your argument is very convincing, it has had some effect on you.
00:04:42.760 And hopefully, you know, one day we might see you in the park as a Muslim, maybe.
00:04:45.880 Maybe, maybe.
00:04:47.260 Thank you.
00:04:47.400 Enjoy your AirPods.
00:04:48.200 Thank you.
00:04:48.560 And thank you for your time.
00:04:50.220 Thank you.
00:04:50.540 Thank you, Sister Georgia.
00:04:51.380 Thank you very much.
00:04:52.060 Take care.
00:04:52.440 It was very good.
00:04:53.680 It was one of the good ones.
00:04:56.160 The first place was a girl could... 1.00
00:04:58.020 What was her name?
00:04:58.960 Georgia.
00:04:59.300 I think her name was Georgia, yeah?
00:05:00.620 But you guys still won something.
00:05:02.740 AirPods, you won it.
00:05:04.280 So, firstly, before I give that to you, you guys put yourself in our shoe.
00:05:08.980 Yes.
00:05:09.260 Your arguments were quite convincing.
00:05:11.100 Did it make you think for a second, I'll hold on a second, actually, you know, maybe there
00:05:15.240 is something here.
00:05:16.000 Maybe, like, did it change your perception?
00:05:17.880 Like, as atheists?
00:05:20.440 Yeah, definitely, 100%.
00:05:21.760 Definitely, 100%.
00:05:22.520 Obviously, you made us put in your shoes, and we had to think about it.
00:05:26.380 It's like going back to school in RE.
00:05:27.700 So, yeah, we had to think about everything.
00:05:29.160 So, yeah, kind of changed your point of view.
00:05:31.860 Yeah.
00:05:32.460 So, okay.
00:05:33.680 So, the argument for, like, because you brought up some arguments.
00:05:36.580 I can't really remember specifically what it was.
00:05:38.940 But you were saying that, for example, all of this coming from nothing, et cetera.
00:05:41.820 So, would you still, like, would you say you're still atheist, or would you say you're...
00:05:46.720 I'm not going to say you need to drastically change your belief, yeah?
00:05:48.960 But would you say that you're more agnostic?
00:05:51.260 You can be honest, you know?
00:05:52.160 More knowledgeable.
00:05:53.140 More knowledgeable.
00:05:53.560 You made us think about it more.
00:05:54.500 Thinking about it, if you think...
00:05:56.240 Yeah, more knowledgeable, yeah.
00:05:57.720 You can't really come out of nothing, you know what I mean?
00:05:59.960 So, you would believe that the university didn't come from nothing?
00:06:02.480 Yeah.
00:06:02.540 They must be because...
00:06:03.280 Okay, that's good.
00:06:04.820 Any other...
00:06:05.600 Did you have...
00:06:05.860 Because we had one, Georgia, she was, like, on the way back home. 0.96
00:06:08.140 She was thinking of more arguments, like, she could have made for a fierce position.
00:06:12.000 Did you have any other...
00:06:13.160 Like, as you was going on, was you thinking, like, you know, actually, I could have made
00:06:15.540 a better case, or was it just, like...
00:06:17.740 I think what I said yesterday about the seed and how everything's very perfect positioned,
00:06:23.940 I've always stood by that, and that's always been my argument, so...
00:06:28.520 Okay, so are you an atheist?
00:06:30.580 Or would you say you're agnostic?
00:06:32.080 I don't know.
00:06:33.500 There's so many...
00:06:34.680 Some things you sit, you're like, that doesn't make sense.
00:06:37.100 Maybe someone could have created that, or...
00:06:39.920 Then some things like that, you know, how...
00:06:42.500 Another thing is, like, I don't understand, is how our...
00:06:45.240 Some of our DNA is linked with, like, cabbages and bananas.
00:06:49.360 Yeah, bananas.
00:06:50.100 It's very strange.
00:06:50.940 Like, some things, I'm like, that's not right.
00:06:53.060 Even the whole DNA thing, though, but if you think about it, like, the whole DNA, the
00:06:55.640 way it's structured, it's actually like a little factory, you know?
00:06:59.540 And, like, the way...
00:07:00.160 How you look, how I look, how you look.
00:07:02.520 And, like, if we look at, like, a programme, be it a computer, that's got, like, you know,
00:07:07.220 you know, it's got algorithms and the way it's structured, you know?
00:07:10.280 And the DNA is more complex than all of them.
00:07:13.360 Do you...
00:07:13.840 Would you...
00:07:14.300 And she said yesterday, everything's perfect.
00:07:16.240 So if there's one thing wrong, how can we make something wrong?
00:07:18.740 Everything is perfect.
00:07:19.880 Think about it now, there must be something there.
00:07:21.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:22.260 Definitely.
00:07:23.580 It's crazy.
00:07:24.380 Yes, it is, it is.
00:07:25.260 Okay, I'm not going to hold you guys longer.
00:07:26.480 So you won the AirPods, these ones, yeah?
00:07:30.120 Thank you for taking part.
00:07:31.060 I don't know how you're going to divide that, or sell it and share the money.
00:07:33.440 I don't know.
00:07:33.840 Or give one airport to him, you carry the other one.
00:07:36.020 Yeah, no problem.
00:07:36.720 Thank you very much for your time.
00:07:37.700 It was just thought-provoking, and we learned from each other.
00:07:40.960 Yeah, that's it.
00:07:41.820 Any last words?
00:07:43.060 Thank you very much.
00:07:43.580 Thank you very much.
00:07:44.200 No, no, thank you.
00:07:44.740 Thank you for coming.
00:07:45.660 And guys, hope you enjoyed it.
00:07:46.680 If you want part two, we can try part two.
00:07:48.820 Let us know.
00:07:50.240 Okay, guys.
00:07:50.820 So basically, we had three people who were going to win the AirPods, yeah?
00:07:54.620 Okay, we had the first winner was Georgia, and then second was Toby and Lauren, and third
00:08:04.560 was a girl called Rachel, but we're still a messenger on Instagram, we're still waiting
00:08:08.340 for it to get back to us.
00:08:09.460 But we had someone, what was your name?
00:08:12.500 Aydin.
00:08:13.120 Aydin, yes.
00:08:14.640 That's actually, that's like a Turkish name, Aydin.
00:08:16.940 It is, yeah, yeah.
00:08:17.860 Yeah, okay, so Aydin, we admired his effort, because I saw your effort, and I said, okay,
00:08:23.580 you know what, let's not leave it empty-handed.
00:08:25.800 So, the brother's going to get that, but in the meantime, what I wanted to do was, while
00:08:30.840 he goes and gets some, I'm going to give you that, is your arguments were good.
00:08:35.960 Yeah.
00:08:36.500 Was you self-convinced?
00:08:38.480 Actually, yeah, like the things you told me yesterday, I actually thought about them
00:08:42.060 while coming here, and they actually really made sense, because like, personally, I'm an
00:08:46.640 atheist, and...
00:08:48.480 Are you still an atheist?
00:08:50.020 Well, I'm not sure, yeah.
00:08:51.460 Okay.
00:08:51.740 But the points you made were really convincing to me.
00:08:54.220 Like, how I had to like, convince you, um, what was it?
00:08:58.800 Yeah.
00:09:00.040 Like you were saying that, for example, it cannot come from nothing.
00:09:03.160 Yeah.
00:09:03.940 And then, yeah, like the points really made sense.
00:09:07.920 So, even though you didn't win the airport, yeah, but when I watched the video, and your
00:09:12.620 argument for the proof of God was good, and I thought, it's for my own money.
00:09:16.640 Yeah.
00:09:16.900 And I thought, you know what?
00:09:17.840 The effort counts.
00:09:19.020 So, there's a 50 squeezy.
00:09:20.820 Let's show it to the British. 0.98
00:09:22.120 The queens.
00:09:22.640 You see the queen is there, guys.
00:09:24.160 Put respect on the queen.
00:09:24.980 Hold it.
00:09:25.840 Yes.
00:09:26.200 Like this.
00:09:26.520 As you can see, 50 pounds.
00:09:28.220 What do they call this on the roads?
00:09:29.960 Pinky.
00:09:30.460 A little pinky.
00:09:31.340 Yeah.
00:09:31.820 Okay.
00:09:32.620 All right.
00:09:33.040 It's a little pinky.
00:09:33.820 So, there you go.
00:09:34.600 Enjoy it.
00:09:35.340 I don't know what you're going to do with it, yeah?
00:09:37.140 Um.
00:09:38.400 Hopefully, not drugs.
00:09:39.620 It better not be drugs, bruv.
00:09:40.480 It's a halal money. 0.67
00:09:41.260 You don't want to go do you, Zofar Haram. 1.00
00:09:42.720 I'm joking.
00:09:43.100 No, I'm joking.
00:09:43.800 Toby, any last words?
00:09:45.680 Um.
00:09:47.120 Thank you for this.
00:09:47.980 No problem.
00:09:48.460 Thank you for having me back.
00:09:48.980 Thank you.
00:09:49.220 We're going to do another one, maybe with an iPhone.
00:09:51.540 All right.
00:09:51.860 Yeah.
00:09:52.100 Maybe come again and we can.
00:09:53.920 Yeah.
00:09:54.400 Thank you.
00:09:54.940 Toby, have a nice day and say bye-bye to your friend, the polar bear.
00:09:59.060 Take care.
00:09:59.800 All right, guys.
00:10:00.180 So, yesterday, we had a social experiment where we asked atheists to put their self in 0.67
00:10:05.700 a fierce position and give us the best argument for God.
00:10:08.300 So, we had Georgia who came, a young lady who won. 1.00
00:10:11.380 She gave good examples.
00:10:12.680 And then we had Toby and Lauren who came.
00:10:14.600 They won the AirPods.
00:10:15.760 They came second place.
00:10:17.500 And we had Rachel.
00:10:18.640 We got in contact with Rachel where we tried to.
00:10:20.520 She hasn't got back to us yet.
00:10:21.920 But she wins the last AirPods, which is the AirPods Pro.
00:10:25.860 So, yeah.
00:10:26.180 If she comes, we're going to give that.
00:10:27.040 And this young man, he gave good effort.
00:10:29.100 So, we thought we'd give him a little 50 pounds.
00:10:30.840 Let him enjoy it because the effort was there.
00:10:32.680 And we're going to wait for Rachel to come.
00:10:34.280 And that's it.
00:10:34.960 I hope you enjoyed it.
00:10:35.500 If you want part two of the social experiment, comment in the section below.