Ali Dawah - December 10, 2017


BRITAIN FIRST BREAKSDOWN WHEN CONFRONTED - ALI DAWAH


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Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

172.45901

Word count

1,578

Sentence count

197

Harmful content

Misogyny

9

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Toxicity

39

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Hate speech

15

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Summary

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In this episode, Ali and Daya speak to the men responsible for the attack at Finsbury Park Mosque, Paul Golding and Jodie Chamberlain. They ask them all the questions they have about why they do what they do and how they do it.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 So I'm here with the cameraman, this guy, hopefully, they're going to come.
00:00:07.000 So we're here, we're just waiting, it's 2pm, they run a bit late.
00:00:27.000 Northern and Piccadilly line.
00:00:31.000 I will quite easily smash that up. 0.95
00:00:34.000 Well, I'll just get it, I'll smash it against someone.
00:00:36.000 Why would you, why would you do that though?
00:00:38.000 Because I don't want it.
00:00:41.000 I did that one, this scene.
00:00:46.000 Yo, Ali, Ali, Ali, they noticed you.
00:00:48.000 She missed me.
00:00:49.000 She wants to shake your hand again.
00:01:02.000 She can shake my toe.
00:01:04.000 You guys are on Ali TV.
00:01:06.000 Oh, hi.
00:01:07.000 Hi.
00:01:08.000 Hi, Jaida.
00:01:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:11.000 So if you guys don't know, there's Paul Gordon.
00:01:15.000 There's Jaida. 0.81
00:01:16.000 They're upset, they're agitated.
00:01:17.000 Yeah, duh.
00:01:19.000 You see guys, when they're harassing Muslims in general, yeah, it's fine. 1.00
00:01:24.000 They're happy days, harassing Muslims. 1.00
00:01:26.000 But when the same is done to them, we're not even harassing them.
00:01:28.000 We're just here, just waiting for them.
00:01:29.000 Look at how they're panicking.
00:01:30.000 They're like, what are we going to do?
00:01:31.000 They're looking for another exit.
00:01:32.000 How's it feel?
00:01:33.000 How's it feel when you're going to people and sticking the camera in their face?
00:01:36.000 You know, we're not going to harass them.
00:01:37.000 We just want to have a decent conversation and ask them a few questions.
00:01:40.000 Because Paul Golding is being done for sexual harassment charges.
00:01:44.000 Jaida has been trying to bribe the lady, the Polish lady, who is pressing the charges.
00:01:50.000 Thomas Mayer, we know Joel Cox's killer, and he was the one who was shouting Britain first. 0.53
00:01:55.000 And John Broomfield is one of their members in Brighton.
00:01:59.000 And he was charged for plotting to blow up the Brighton mosque.
00:02:02.000 And he was caught with 170 pictures of indecent images of babies and children.
00:02:05.000 And not only that, one of their followers, I think a couple of days ago, tried to run a man over.
00:02:12.000 He claimed that he followed Britain first.
00:02:14.000 And basically, he tried to run over some Asian guy, yeah. 0.94
00:02:17.000 And before he beat his wife, and then he came out and said, I'm going to go and do something to these Muslims. 1.00
00:02:22.000 And he tried to run somebody over. 0.98
00:02:23.000 So this is all coming from them.
00:02:25.000 And you can see they have the same ideology, same thinking as ISIS.
00:02:28.000 Yeah, same thing.
00:02:29.000 Preach hate and innocent people get hurt.
00:02:31.000 And when they're confronted, Paul starts crying. Look at him.
00:02:39.000 I think they're getting a few more people to come to distract us or use the security.
00:02:42.000 And you never know, it might get physical.
00:02:44.000 It might get physical, but we're not here for that.
00:02:46.000 We're here to just ask some questions and get some answers.
00:02:48.000 Okay.
00:02:49.000 How are you doing, Dayda?
00:02:50.000 Night.
00:02:51.000 Night down.
00:02:52.000 Go away.
00:02:53.000 And also, John Greenville.
00:02:54.000 John Greenville.
00:02:55.000 John Greenville.
00:02:56.000 John Greenville.
00:02:57.000 John Greenville.
00:02:58.000 He won.
00:02:59.000 He won.
00:03:00.000 He won.
00:03:01.000 He won.
00:03:02.000 He won.
00:03:03.000 What do you want?
00:03:04.000 Go away.
00:03:05.000 Go away.
00:03:07.000 I'm not going to do that.
00:03:14.000 I'm not going to do that. 0.90
00:03:16.000 They don't have a whole life harassing Muslims. 0.98
00:03:18.000 People on the camera on the speed, yeah, look at this, Muslims. 1.00
00:03:21.000 But when you're challenged, you run away like a coward. 0.99
00:03:25.000 Because they don't like it.
00:03:26.000 This guy, I have no problem with this guy.
00:03:28.000 I have no problem, he's just doing his job.
00:03:30.000 So good.
00:03:31.000 Hi there, you okay?
00:03:32.000 Yeah, you?
00:03:33.000 Yeah, I'm good.
00:03:34.000 Oh, I'm with them.
00:03:35.000 For one family.
00:03:37.000 He's adopted them all.
00:03:38.000 I do get emotional sometimes.
00:03:40.000 In case you need a tissue.
00:03:42.000 They can't go out of the back.
00:03:44.000 Yeah, they can't.
00:03:45.000 This is the only way in and out.
00:03:46.000 That's what we call intelligence.
00:03:47.000 Oh, you asked a question, we gave you the answer, well done.
00:03:49.000 Thank you, thank you.
00:03:50.000 Can we ask more questions?
00:03:51.000 Yeah, of course you can.
00:03:52.000 Okay, what?
00:03:53.000 No.
00:03:54.000 Go on.
00:03:55.000 My problem with these guys is, you see, I call them non-violent extremists, yeah?
00:04:00.000 Because you see what ISIS does is they preach hate, and you have innocent people dying because
00:04:04.000 of them, they brainwash people.
00:04:05.000 These guys do the same thing. 1.00
00:04:06.000 They go out there, Islam is to take over, kill everybody. 1.00
00:04:09.000 I'm a Muslim, yeah? 1.00
00:04:10.000 This is my religion they're talking about.
00:04:11.000 My religion's been hijacked by ISIS and Britain first. 1.00
00:04:13.000 Yeah.
00:04:14.000 So I'm here to challenge you guys because of you guys, innocent people are dying. 0.94
00:04:17.000 Finsbury Park, you've got innocent Muslims run over. 0.98
00:04:19.000 Look what's happened to all those terrorist attacks.
00:04:21.000 Why do?
00:04:22.000 It's your time.
00:04:23.000 Oh, she looks like she's... 0.96
00:04:24.000 Is she crying?
00:04:25.000 Yeah.
00:04:26.000 Are you serious?
00:04:27.000 Yeah.
00:04:28.000 She's crying? 0.80
00:04:29.000 Yeah.
00:04:30.000 Are you serious?
00:04:31.000 Yeah.
00:04:32.000 She's crying? 0.80
00:04:33.000 Yeah, we are.
00:04:34.000 Are you serious?
00:04:35.000 She's actually crying?
00:04:36.000 Yeah.
00:04:37.000 What's she crying for?
00:04:38.000 Nah, nah, she's being dramatic, you know what she's doing? 1.00
00:04:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:41.000 Aw, she's... 1.00
00:04:42.000 She's playing, she's playing, bro.
00:04:43.000 She's playing.
00:04:44.000 Crying over what?
00:04:45.000 Because we won this big team?
00:04:46.000 Oh, yeah, no, she looks quite distressed, actually.
00:04:51.000 Aw, she's trying.
00:05:01.000 Ali, what are you saying?
00:05:02.000 So what happened, Ali?
00:05:03.000 No, basically, they're not coming out and Jayden got an Oscar for crying.
00:05:06.000 We'll just go into the bathroom and see if they're going to... 0.94
00:05:08.000 They're trying to come out of the bathroom.
00:05:16.000 Listen, I'm in the back here.
00:05:17.000 I'm just waiting if they were taking this exit.
00:05:19.000 But if you see them coming out from there...
00:05:21.000 Please come.
00:05:22.000 Huh?
00:05:23.000 This looks like a chopper.
00:05:24.000 You stay here.
00:05:25.000 Alright.
00:05:28.000 So Ali, what are we doing with?
00:05:30.000 We're waiting.
00:05:32.000 Good things come to make you wait.
00:05:33.000 Like this here.
00:05:41.000 Oh, sir.
00:05:46.000 Oh, yes.
00:05:47.000 Oh.
00:05:48.000 Where are you going?
00:05:50.000 Cool.
00:05:51.000 Pull up, go.
00:05:52.000 Pull up, go.
00:05:53.000 Go, go, go, go.
00:05:59.000 OK, get right over.
00:06:01.000 You need our man out of there.
00:06:02.000 Yeah.
00:06:03.000 Jayden, why didn't you answer our questions?
00:06:05.000 Don't get right over...
00:06:06.000 What happens?
00:06:07.000 Why didn't you answer our questions?
00:06:08.000 You're passing in a truck in the road, mate.
00:06:10.000 You've got to get out of the road.
00:06:12.000 You must get out of the road.
00:06:13.000 Ali, Ali, come.
00:06:15.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0.95
00:06:17.000 You see these cowards? 0.99
00:06:21.000 Ali, you see these cowards? 1.00
00:06:25.000 They're cowards. 1.00
00:06:27.000 They're cowards. 1.00
00:06:29.000 They're cowards. 1.00
00:06:31.000 They're cowards. 1.00
00:06:33.000 They're cowards. 1.00
00:06:35.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 1.00
00:06:37.000 You see?
00:06:41.000 They can't answer. 1.00
00:06:43.000 You're cowards. 1.00
00:06:45.000 You're cowards, guys. 1.00
00:06:47.000 You're cowards, Jada. 1.00
00:06:49.000 Look at Jada recording something. 1.00
00:06:51.000 Something, eh?
00:06:57.000 Jada, why don't you want to talk?
00:07:03.000 So as you can see, guys,
00:07:05.000 they didn't speak,
00:07:07.000 but I spoke volumes.
00:07:09.000 I spoke volumes.
00:07:11.000 We're just trying to say, look, stop the violence.
00:07:13.000 Because we're the ones who are getting hurt.
00:07:15.000 Not you, you just talk, talk, talk. 0.99
00:07:17.000 Somebody gets brainwashed, runs off of Muslims or non-Muslims. 0.95
00:07:19.000 Who's getting hurt? 0.93
00:07:21.000 We're getting hurt.
00:07:22.000 Innocent kids, why should they die?
00:07:23.000 Because of you?
00:07:24.000 Because you want some money in your pocket?
00:07:25.000 No.
00:07:26.000 We will put a stop to that,
00:07:27.000 and we will challenge you.
00:07:28.000 Jada, you're claiming things about my religion.
00:07:30.000 My religion's been hijacked by you,
00:07:32.000 and ISIS, and Tommy Robinson, and the rest.
00:07:34.000 And that upsets me, yeah?
00:07:35.000 Because you're going on behalf of my name,
00:07:37.000 my religion,
00:07:38.000 and says, this is what it teaches.
00:07:39.000 So this is the reason why I came here today,
00:07:41.000 just to have a little discussion.
00:07:42.000 You were here.
00:07:43.000 We were here for hours.
00:07:44.000 All we wanted was a discussion.
00:07:45.000 What did they do?
00:07:46.000 They wait.
00:07:47.000 She goes there, starts crying.
00:07:48.000 What are you crying for?
00:07:49.000 What are you crying for?
00:07:50.000 We're here to talk.
00:07:51.000 And then they run off in the back.
00:07:52.000 You said there are Muslims in the UK
00:07:53.000 that have perceived violent violence.
00:07:55.000 Is there Muslims? 0.99
00:07:56.000 Oh yeah, extremists. 0.98
00:07:57.000 Like I said to you,
00:07:58.000 extremists come in all different colours.
00:08:00.000 Like we had one today, yeah?
00:08:01.000 They're an extreme group.
00:08:02.000 I believe the British public are being,
00:08:04.000 there's a genuine concern, yeah?
00:08:06.000 The British public are a genuine concern.
00:08:07.000 What these guys are doing is,
00:08:09.000 there's a gap in the market, yeah?
00:08:10.000 So they're using the genuine concern of the public
00:08:13.000 to say, you know what?
00:08:14.000 Yes, this is what they teach,
00:08:15.000 and we're here to fight that.
00:08:16.000 No mate, you're an extremist as much as ISIS is. 1.00
00:08:19.000 That's the reason,
00:08:20.000 we're not just here for them.
00:08:21.000 I'm here to combat Islamic extremists as well, yeah? 0.66
00:08:24.000 If we could get hold of them,
00:08:25.000 because we don't know where they are,
00:08:26.000 we can track these guys down.
00:08:27.000 But them, we don't know where they are,
00:08:29.000 or they're locked up or whatever.
00:08:30.000 We're here to combat all kinds of extremism.
00:08:32.000 You're carrying the cross.
00:08:34.000 Yeah, I know a lot of Christian people,
00:08:35.000 lovely people, yeah?
00:08:36.000 They don't go around doing this, yeah?
00:08:38.000 So as you can see,
00:08:39.000 I'm a Muslim as well.
00:08:40.000 I don't go around doing what Islamic extremists do.
00:08:42.000 So do you see,
00:08:43.000 the British public,
00:08:44.000 Muslim and non-Muslim, 0.97
00:08:45.000 we're on one side.
00:08:46.000 The extremists, 0.98
00:08:47.000 Islamic extremists, 1.00
00:08:48.000 and these far-right Jews, 0.99
00:08:49.000 they're on the other side.
00:08:50.000 Thank you so much.
00:08:51.000 Can we shake my hand?
00:08:52.000 Yeah, of course, man.
00:08:53.000 You know what it is?
00:08:54.000 It's just like,
00:08:55.000 even if you look at Jews, 0.95
00:08:56.000 like, awful lot of Jews, 1.00
00:08:57.000 it's the same with them. 0.91
00:08:58.000 And the same is for Muslim women. 1.00
00:08:59.000 Muslim women wanted to shake my hand off me, sorry. 1.00
00:09:01.000 Yeah.
00:09:02.000 Because she was saying,
00:09:03.000 oh, it's because I'm a Kuffar.
00:09:04.000 Kuffar means,
00:09:05.000 because I'm a non-Muslim.
00:09:06.000 I'm just like,
00:09:07.000 what are you talking about?
00:09:08.000 Who the hell said it's got anything to do with that?