Ali Dawah - May 28, 2024


CAN MUSLIM WOMAN MARRY CHRISTIAN⧸JEW？ - MUSLIM RESPONDS


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

220.2895

Word Count

3,069

Sentence Count

362

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the differences between being a Christian and a Muslim, the differences in our belief system, and the difference between our beliefs and those of our parents. We also talk about what it means to be a Muslim and a Christian.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I generally do believe, like a lot of my faith just comes from my father because he's an orthodox Christian.
00:00:04.760 Okay, good.
00:00:05.360 But, um, no, because he says it, I'm not too sure of the verses, but I'm the way, the truth, and the life.
00:00:10.680 Nobody comes to the father.
00:00:11.740 Yeah.
00:00:12.520 We're saying, don't give the credit that belongs to God, to Jesus.
00:00:17.000 And I'll give you an example.
00:00:18.260 You have a father, you said, yeah?
00:00:19.580 You have a mother.
00:00:20.680 Good.
00:00:21.420 Imagine your mum and dad brought you to this age.
00:00:23.100 How old are you?
00:00:24.100 16.
00:00:24.600 You're 16.
00:00:25.560 Imagine you turn around and say, mum, dad, you've done F all for me.
00:00:30.000 Imagine, you've found nothing for me.
00:00:32.420 I'm going to go and thank Ali.
00:00:33.860 How would they feel?
00:00:35.560 Ashamed.
00:00:36.520 Ashamed?
00:00:37.440 Betrayed?
00:00:38.080 Yeah.
00:00:38.560 They'll say, what an ungrateful girl?
00:00:40.420 Yeah.
00:00:40.780 Good.
00:00:41.400 Now, what do you think the Christians are doing when, instead of giving the credit that belongs to God, you go and say, Jesus, thank you.
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00:01:21.020 Okay, as-salamu alaykum guys, I'm here with?
00:01:23.080 Taman.
00:01:23.640 Huh?
00:01:23.880 Taman.
00:01:24.420 Taman?
00:01:24.900 Yeah.
00:01:25.080 Where are you from?
00:01:25.700 Kurdish.
00:01:26.280 Oh, you're Kurdish.
00:01:26.800 Okay, and sister, what's your name?
00:01:27.720 Ilyana.
00:01:28.240 Ilyana, nice meeting you.
00:01:29.440 You are British?
00:01:30.980 Yeah, my father's Greek Cypriot.
00:01:32.700 Oh, Greek Cypriot.
00:01:33.300 Okay, okay, interesting.
00:01:34.360 All right, because there are Turkish Cypriots and there are Greek Cypriots, right?
00:01:36.580 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:36.700 Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:01:37.720 Okay, so, do you believe in God?
00:01:40.520 Yeah.
00:01:41.040 Okay, good.
00:01:41.540 So, are you a Christian?
00:01:42.820 Yeah, I'm Orthodox.
00:01:43.800 Okay, good.
00:01:44.740 Orthodox, what do you guys believe?
00:01:48.220 Do you believe in the Trinity?
00:01:49.380 Yeah.
00:01:50.020 Okay, all right, interesting.
00:01:50.980 Actually, you don't believe in the Trinity.
00:01:52.280 No, no, we don't believe in the Trinity.
00:01:53.040 But I'll tell you, there are similarities that we believe in.
00:01:54.760 So, what do you know about Islam?
00:01:58.200 To be honest, not much.
00:01:59.300 I'm not very educated.
00:02:00.100 Okay.
00:02:00.480 But I do describe it.
00:02:01.400 No problem, I'll tell you a bit about Islam.
00:02:02.500 So, for example, our belief system is very simple.
00:02:04.540 We believe that the Christians and the Jews, for example, there are the people in the book.
00:02:08.600 The people in the book, yeah.
00:02:09.000 Exactly, for example, we can marry from the Christians.
00:02:11.380 But the woman can't marry a...
00:02:12.680 Okay, so here it is.
00:02:14.340 A man, a Muslim man, is allowed to marry a Christian girl and a Jewish.
00:02:18.800 But a Christian woman...
00:02:19.940 A Muslim woman is not allowed, and I'll tell you why.
00:02:23.000 However, a Muslim man and a Muslim woman are both not allowed to marry idol worshippers.
00:02:28.160 So, those who worship idols.
00:02:29.540 Like a pagan.
00:02:30.160 Hinduism, yeah, a pagan.
00:02:31.280 Yeah, so that's what it is.
00:02:32.820 So, even I am not allowed to marry a pagan.
00:02:35.020 Yeah.
00:02:35.320 So, yeah.
00:02:35.800 The reason behind that is because, obviously, usually the man is the one that's dominant.
00:02:38.840 He's the leader.
00:02:39.280 However, he can coerce his wife to become a Christian.
00:02:43.400 However, for example, if I was to marry a Christian woman, I am not allowed to convert her to my religion.
00:02:49.380 Oh, I didn't.
00:02:50.060 Yeah, so that's why she's protected, because I can't force my religion down her throat.
00:02:53.600 However, a Muslim woman, as a Christian man, he might force her, if that makes sense, yeah?
00:02:59.340 Yeah.
00:02:59.440 Sorry, you'll get a lot of cameras here, yeah?
00:03:00.360 It's okay.
00:03:00.840 So, what Islam has done, sister, is come to connect us to God Almighty.
00:03:04.980 So, what Islam has come to do is the following.
00:03:07.180 We have many worldly things that we are occupied with.
00:03:09.400 Yeah.
00:03:09.580 TV, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Easter, Valentine's Day, all kinds of days.
00:03:15.800 So, what Islam has come to do, sister, is to protect us and to connect back to God.
00:03:20.580 So, we have that relationship.
00:03:21.500 Now, when it comes to the Trinity, sister, what Allah tells us in the Quran is the following.
00:03:25.680 Tell the people of the book, which is you, sister, Ilyana.
00:03:28.780 Ilyana.
00:03:29.420 Ilyana.
00:03:29.720 So, what it does is that, what I'm doing today is I'm enacting what the Quran tells me.
00:03:34.080 It's to come and tell the people of the book that we come to common terms between us and you, that we worship God alone.
00:03:39.660 So, what we say is the following, sister.
00:03:41.880 We do not believe that Jesus is God.
00:03:44.640 Do you believe Jesus is God?
00:03:46.700 Yeah.
00:03:47.340 Okay, good.
00:03:48.020 Now, let me tell you a few things about God and you tell me if this is true.
00:03:51.940 Do you accept that God has no beginning and end?
00:03:54.920 Yes.
00:03:55.420 Good.
00:03:55.940 Do you believe God is the all-knowing?
00:03:57.940 Yes.
00:03:58.560 The all-powerful?
00:03:59.680 Yeah.
00:04:00.300 Can God die?
00:04:01.420 No.
00:04:01.900 But I'm assuming you're going to ask me that's how God, how Jesus doesn't know the day or the hour.
00:04:05.300 Yeah.
00:04:05.580 So, the reason I'm saying that is you don't believe God can die.
00:04:09.540 You don't believe God can lie?
00:04:11.220 No.
00:04:11.700 Good.
00:04:12.220 So, we say there are certain things that we know about God, who he is.
00:04:15.200 Yeah.
00:04:15.540 Good.
00:04:15.940 So, what we say is the following.
00:04:17.180 The reason why we do not believe Jesus is God is, like you said before, is that he was a human being like me.
00:04:22.980 He ate food.
00:04:24.540 Now, we believe that God doesn't require food to eat.
00:04:27.140 We believe God doesn't need to sleep.
00:04:28.680 Mm-hmm.
00:04:29.140 We believe that God is the one and only majestic.
00:04:31.720 Mm-hmm.
00:04:31.900 So, this is the reason why we say Jesus cannot be God.
00:04:35.440 I personally believe that Jesus is God due to, like, um...
00:04:38.640 Is it because you've been told?
00:04:40.120 No.
00:04:40.300 Or is it because you believe?
00:04:41.180 Because...
00:04:41.300 I generally do believe.
00:04:42.760 Like, a lot of my faith does come from my father because, obviously, he's an orthodox Christian.
00:04:45.900 Okay, good.
00:04:46.500 But, um...
00:04:47.740 No, because he says it.
00:04:48.740 I'm not too sure of the verses, but I'm the way, the truth, and the life that happens here.
00:04:51.880 Nobody comes to the father.
00:04:52.900 Yeah.
00:04:53.320 Okay.
00:04:53.760 He doesn't say I'm the Alpha and Omega.
00:04:55.340 But, the point is this, sister.
00:04:56.860 If we took Islam, let's take all religions out of it.
00:05:00.380 No Islam, no Christianity.
00:05:01.580 We don't know any religions.
00:05:02.680 Mm-hmm.
00:05:02.920 And, me and you, we're like, okay.
00:05:06.140 Let's suppose we just popped up in an island.
00:05:07.940 Yeah.
00:05:08.240 Me and you.
00:05:09.060 And, I'm like, sister, I believe there's a power behind all of this.
00:05:12.660 Yeah.
00:05:12.820 We're an island.
00:05:13.680 We look around trees, the sea.
00:05:15.880 Yeah.
00:05:16.020 And, I'm like, you know what?
00:05:17.300 There's something bigger than us.
00:05:18.140 Yeah, there has to be a creator.
00:05:19.220 Good.
00:05:19.560 So, don't forget.
00:05:20.620 No Christianity, no Islam.
00:05:22.060 We don't know nothing about them.
00:05:24.680 If I said to you, okay, you know what?
00:05:26.720 Do you think it's rational, sister, that we believe that there's a God?
00:05:30.380 Yeah.
00:05:30.840 Imagine if I was like...
00:05:32.000 Imagine we're on this island.
00:05:33.500 We're not exposed to any religion.
00:05:34.880 Mm-hmm.
00:05:35.380 Would you not believe in God?
00:05:38.000 Like, imagine if we said, you know what?
00:05:39.140 Look, there's trees here.
00:05:41.360 There's the sea.
00:05:42.340 I think, yeah, I think that's the thing.
00:05:42.880 We believe in God.
00:05:43.380 Yeah, there's a creator.
00:05:44.320 Good.
00:05:44.700 So, if I came and said to you, okay, we believe in there has to be some kind of a God.
00:05:49.220 Yeah.
00:05:49.740 He must have put us here for a reason.
00:05:51.160 Yeah.
00:05:51.520 So, he must give us a purpose.
00:05:52.580 Okay, good.
00:05:53.360 He must be the all-knowing.
00:05:54.780 Yeah.
00:05:55.760 If I said to you, I think this God is a monkey.
00:06:00.240 Would you be like, there you go.
00:06:01.780 Your facial expression.
00:06:02.900 Okay.
00:06:03.480 If I said, no, this God has to be a man like me.
00:06:07.100 Would you be like...
00:06:09.160 Well, I think the belief that I believe is true is because...
00:06:12.660 Not Trinity.
00:06:13.240 Not Trinity.
00:06:13.660 No.
00:06:13.820 Let's pretend there is no Trinity.
00:06:16.120 There is no Islam.
00:06:16.960 Yeah.
00:06:17.140 You just on the island.
00:06:18.900 Yeah.
00:06:19.220 How God can't be a man.
00:06:20.480 Good.
00:06:20.740 Would you ever accept my premise that God is a human being?
00:06:24.780 If I said to you, I think God exists.
00:06:26.980 He's all-powerful.
00:06:28.020 And I think he's a man like me.
00:06:30.240 No, I wouldn't believe that.
00:06:31.320 Good.
00:06:31.560 Do you know what we call that in Islam?
00:06:33.620 Now, coming back to Islam.
00:06:34.780 It's called the fitrah.
00:06:36.180 Which means, do you know we say every person is born a Muslim?
00:06:39.260 Mm-hmm.
00:06:39.720 It's because if we take all religions aside, me and you would believe that God is one.
00:06:45.100 He's the all-powerful.
00:06:46.280 He's the all-knowing.
00:06:47.000 And we will never, ever say he is a man.
00:06:49.700 It's external confirmation that makes us say that.
00:06:52.100 No, I understand what you're saying.
00:06:53.720 Completely.
00:06:54.600 But I just...
00:06:56.280 The things like...
00:06:57.560 Because it says in the Bible, like, no one comes through the Father but through me.
00:07:01.420 Yes.
00:07:01.860 We accept that.
00:07:02.600 But you believe in textbook corruption of the Bible, don't you?
00:07:05.960 We do, but not us.
00:07:07.340 The Christian scholarship says that.
00:07:09.500 So if you reopen your Bible, and if you go to certain verses, it will tell you.
00:07:12.640 These verses do not belong in the earliest manuscripts.
00:07:15.420 So it's not us that says it.
00:07:16.400 The Christian scholars tell that the Bible has been corrupted.
00:07:18.720 This is the reason why the Quran was sent down.
00:07:21.060 And I'll ask you a question.
00:07:22.620 If God Almighty sent down a scripture, and that scripture got corrupted,
00:07:27.920 and imagine he sent a prophet, he sends a scripture to a nation, and that gets corrupted.
00:07:32.820 What will be the logical, rational thing to do?
00:07:35.660 What do you think God will do after?
00:07:37.120 Imagine.
00:07:37.740 I'll repeat again.
00:07:38.360 He sends a prophet with a book, and the book gets corrupted.
00:07:41.220 What do you think, logically and rationally, God will do next?
00:07:45.020 To rectify that.
00:07:47.180 What would he do?
00:07:48.360 I don't know.
00:07:49.260 Think about it.
00:07:49.880 So there's a book that's been corrupted.
00:07:51.880 Would he not send another prophet with another book?
00:07:55.180 Yeah.
00:07:55.900 But do you not believe that the Bible, and not the prophet?
00:07:59.120 Injil.
00:07:59.460 We believe the original Injil.
00:08:00.700 Yeah.
00:08:00.940 Yes.
00:08:01.240 But we don't believe the Bible is the Injil.
00:08:02.920 No?
00:08:03.320 So we say the Injil was sent by God Almighty to Jesus.
00:08:07.580 But the Bible that you have is not the Injil.
00:08:10.900 Because of the corruption.
00:08:13.660 People read Mark, Matthew, Luke, John.
00:08:15.020 Who are these people?
00:08:15.940 Who wrote it?
00:08:16.920 The Bible.
00:08:17.740 Sorry.
00:08:18.220 Sorry.
00:08:18.700 No.
00:08:19.340 They were disciples.
00:08:20.500 Exactly.
00:08:20.800 But we don't know anything about them.
00:08:22.060 But they walked with Jesus.
00:08:23.340 The thing is, if you do a bit of research, none of them did.
00:08:26.560 How do you know?
00:08:26.960 If you do some research, like for example, if you read New Jerome's commentary of the Bible,
00:08:32.300 he says, we don't know who John is.
00:08:34.200 Is it John the press fighter?
00:08:35.340 John the son of Zebedee?
00:08:36.300 Or John the apostle?
00:08:37.460 We don't know who these individuals were.
00:08:39.160 They were, they claim.
00:08:40.900 They say, according, look, it says, according to Matthew.
00:08:43.800 According to him.
00:08:44.440 So then they're all liars?
00:08:45.600 Not liars.
00:08:46.300 We don't know who they are.
00:08:47.280 They never met Jesus.
00:08:48.280 They never spoke with Jesus.
00:08:49.340 But they ripped down the miracles that he did in the book.
00:08:51.820 That's the thing.
00:08:52.320 How could you write something that you was never a witness of?
00:08:54.780 This is why we see this corruption.
00:08:56.340 Exactly.
00:08:56.760 So what we're seeing is, imagine I give a testimony.
00:08:58.800 And I'm like, this accident happened.
00:09:00.420 And you're like, okay, Ali, when did you see this?
00:09:02.360 I'm like, I didn't see it.
00:09:03.900 Somebody told me.
00:09:05.100 So you're not a first eyewitness.
00:09:06.840 I'm like, no.
00:09:07.720 According to you.
00:09:09.500 Imagine you're saying, according to, I'm talking about, but you're like, but then why is she not here?
00:09:13.860 The thing is, these things have not been reliable.
00:09:15.800 That's the reason why.
00:09:16.560 Is that not like saying how in the Quran, it denies that Jesus is God?
00:09:20.840 Is that like not saying, well, if the Quran came 600 years after Jesus, then why should I believe what's in the Quran over then what I believe through Jesus?
00:09:28.940 Perfect.
00:09:29.260 So what we say is the following, sister.
00:09:30.600 So we say that the Old Testament, the New Testament came hundreds, if not thousands years later.
00:09:36.940 Do you get it?
00:09:38.600 Yeah.
00:09:38.800 So then if I use the argument, then I would say the Jews had the Old Testament thousands of years before the New Testament came.
00:09:45.920 So why would the Jews follow the New Testament then?
00:09:48.360 According to that logic.
00:09:49.880 Because if you're saying the Quran came 600 years later.
00:09:52.520 Yeah.
00:09:52.840 Why would I trust it?
00:09:54.200 Yeah.
00:09:54.640 Then the argument will be used with Judaism when they will say, well, Christianity and the New Testament came hundreds and thousands years later.
00:10:00.980 But they don't, sorry, they don't believe in him.
00:10:03.000 Exactly.
00:10:03.540 Guess what?
00:10:03.880 The Jews believe what we believe closer.
00:10:05.740 When it comes to God Almighty, they say the same thing.
00:10:07.880 So imagine they believe that God is not a man.
00:10:09.880 But they not believe that Messiah was going to come and that he was going to be a man who was born of a virgin.
00:10:13.740 Like how you believe.
00:10:14.420 Exactly.
00:10:14.880 They deny it.
00:10:15.520 So check this out.
00:10:16.140 We as Muslims, we believe Jesus' miraculous birth, his mother, the miracles he's done, and we believe he's the Messiah and he's going to come back.
00:10:22.880 The Jews insult him.
00:10:24.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:24.760 So we as Muslims, we're saying we're the middle path, which is what?
00:10:27.900 The Jews degrade him.
00:10:29.400 The Christians excel him to a level of being God.
00:10:32.460 The Muslims come and say, can we meet in the middle and say, we don't insult him.
00:10:36.700 Exactly.
00:10:37.240 He was a mighty prophet.
00:10:38.740 So the difference between us and the Jews is we don't insult Jesus and no Muslim can be a Muslim if we don't believe in Jesus.
00:10:44.760 The difference between us and the Christians is we're saying don't give the credit that belongs to God to Jesus.
00:10:51.160 And I'll give you an example.
00:10:52.180 You have a father, you said, yeah?
00:10:53.940 You have a mother.
00:10:54.760 Good.
00:10:55.560 Imagine your mom and dad brought you to this age.
00:10:57.280 How old are you?
00:10:58.220 16.
00:10:58.760 You're 16.
00:10:59.720 Imagine you turn around and say, mom, dad, you've found effort for me.
00:11:04.480 Imagine.
00:11:05.200 You've found nothing for me.
00:11:06.620 I'm going to go and thank Ali.
00:11:08.060 How would they feel?
00:11:09.760 Ashamed.
00:11:10.680 Ashamed?
00:11:11.720 Betrayed?
00:11:12.240 Yeah.
00:11:12.720 They'll say, what an ungrateful girl?
00:11:14.580 Yeah.
00:11:14.920 Good.
00:11:15.600 Now, what do you think the Christians are doing when instead of giving the credit that belongs to God, you go and say, Jesus, thank you.
00:11:22.600 Instead of saying, thank you, God, the one who created Jesus, you are giving the credit to Jesus.
00:11:28.640 And guess what?
00:11:29.200 We believe that Jesus is God.
00:11:30.340 Good.
00:11:30.660 Because of his first direction as well.
00:11:31.620 But I know you don't believe that Jesus does.
00:11:32.620 But what did Jesus say?
00:11:33.660 Jesus always bigged up who?
00:11:35.800 The father.
00:11:36.380 Yeah.
00:11:36.640 He said, I and myself can do nothing.
00:11:39.480 As I seek, as I see, I judge.
00:11:41.400 And my judgment is just for I don't seek my will by the will of my father.
00:11:45.820 Why does he keep referring to the father?
00:11:47.440 Because that's the trinity and without the trinity.
00:11:49.660 If they were equal, why would he give credit to someone else?
00:11:53.940 So if, for example, me and you were equal, yeah, and somebody came and gave me and said, you know what, Ali, you're an amazing artist.
00:12:00.240 And I go, oh, don't say thank you to me.
00:12:01.320 I've learned it from her.
00:12:02.900 That means you were superior.
00:12:04.400 I've learned it from you, correct?
00:12:06.080 So then why is Jesus saying, my father, when they came and said, oh, good master.
00:12:10.440 Why don't call me good.
00:12:11.300 There is only one good.
00:12:12.080 That's God alone.
00:12:13.060 When he went to the mountain of Gethsemane and prayed like we Muslims pray.
00:12:16.320 We pray as Orthodox like that.
00:12:17.600 Good.
00:12:17.920 So who is he praying to if he's God?
00:12:19.880 The father.
00:12:20.980 Well, he is the father.
00:12:22.540 He is the father.
00:12:23.500 He's the son.
00:12:24.540 And the son is the father and the father is the spirit.
00:12:26.720 Do you get what you're trying to say?
00:12:27.440 Yeah.
00:12:27.620 So what I'm saying, my dear sister, is in a nutshell, I will say I don't want to hold you too much.
00:12:30.480 You're friends.
00:12:31.140 You guys need to go.
00:12:31.880 I don't want to hold you too much, my dear sister.
00:12:33.140 What I'm saying is the following.
00:12:34.440 If we put all religions aside, you, you know what I call the fitrah, you will believe that God is one and he's not a man.
00:12:41.100 Yeah, no, I completely understand that.
00:12:42.300 Exactly.
00:12:42.580 But I think as well, I think as well, Muhammad, like, because in the Quran, it also says that Jesus was sinless, correct?
00:12:51.140 Jesus was what?
00:12:51.780 Sinless.
00:12:52.220 Yeah, yeah, we believe all prophets are sinless.
00:12:54.160 I thought, what, Muhammad was sinless?
00:12:56.100 No, I'm saying, but Prophet Muhammad, when it comes to, for example, humanly things that he did, he made mistakes.
00:13:01.220 But in general, we believe all prophets, they cannot commit major sins.
00:13:04.960 All of them.
00:13:05.960 There's no discrimination with one or the other.
00:13:07.360 Are you Shia or Sunni?
00:13:08.420 I'm Sunni.
00:13:09.220 Oh, okay.
00:13:09.880 Yeah.
00:13:10.280 So, yeah.
00:13:11.200 Yeah.
00:13:11.400 But what I don't understand as well is how, and no disrespect, but how, um, how if, if God was all-knowing, yeah, then why would he let Muhammad marry six-year-olds?
00:13:24.860 Oh, good question.
00:13:25.300 You know, I can understand that in the time it was different, and, and, and that, but I just, I don't see how a 56-year-old man and a six-year-old, well, when she, when she, when she was nine, nine years old, yes.
00:13:40.000 I don't believe, I don't get how an all-knowing God would let a man of that age, when we know now scientifically that a nine-year-old girl and a 56-year-old man, it would clearly hurt the young girl because she's not as developed.
00:13:53.600 Okay, so what we do is, sister, with this instance, what happens is.