Ali Dawah - CHRISTIANS BIG SLIP UP ON JESUS (pbuh) - SPEAKERS CORNER

00:00:00.000 Come on Ali, come on bruv, high five, you're right, that's what we're talking about, say that again, say that again, you're saying, you're saying, okay, so how can God become a man?

00:00:09.240 Because you're, you're putting yourself

00:00:30.000 They said they killed Jesus, but they killed him not, right? The Jews says that they killed him, but they killed him not, but in another part of the Quran it says, blessed to see in the day he's born, blessed to see in the day I mortify him, kill him, and blessed to see the day I raise him up, so when Christians put them verses to you, it's like you guys sort of, and carry on your agenda, my question is, could you not say he ain't died? 0.65

00:00:59.180 And then your own Quran is saying, blessed is the day he's born, blessed is the day I kill him, mortify, the word, mortify, and the day I raise him up, so I'm just trying to say, why don't you guys face the truth, man?

00:01:14.580 So, I was with my brother, and he did not make me oppressive or ill-fated, now, this is where your argument is, so the argument of my friend is, the Quran says, Jesus did not die on the cross, but hold on a second, here it says, and peace be upon me the day I was born,

00:01:28.700 the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised, die again, so what my friend is saying, what's your name?

00:01:33.340 Joseph, Joseph, nice to meet you, my name's Ali, so what he's saying is that, look Ali, this doesn't make sense to me, first you claim he did not die, now another verse in the Quran it says he died, yeah, valid point, but a misunderstanding,

00:01:42.560 so what he's saying is, peace be upon me the day I was born, Jesus was born, yeah, the day I shall die.

00:01:50.040 Do you read Arabic, the word is moutify, moutify, I mean in the Greek moutify, and it's, moutify means kill, 0.98

00:01:59.020 no, no, no, no, no, it doesn't, no, sir.

00:02:00.940 Trace the word, trace the word, it's moutify, moutify, comes from the word death, kill,

00:02:06.140 I am not going to die.

00:02:08.140 I am not going to die.

00:02:10.140 I am not going to die.

00:02:12.140 Medical Maut.

00:02:14.140 He is talking about Maut when Allah takes your soul. 1.00

00:02:16.140 And when he does not return it. 0.93

00:02:18.140 That is when you are dead. 0.93

00:02:20.140 My understanding is mortify. 0.71

00:02:22.140 In the Quran, Allah takes your soul and he does not return it. 0.93

00:02:24.140 I am looking at this.

00:02:26.140 I can't see that word.

00:02:28.140 Now, it says peace be upon me the day I was born.

00:02:30.140 Your body Jesus was born.

00:02:32.140 The day I shall die.

00:02:34.140 Now you are taking that as Jesus dies.

00:02:36.140 We are saying no.

00:02:38.140 We believe Jesus is not dead till this day.

00:02:40.140 He is with God Almighty.

00:02:42.140 He is going to come back in his second coming.

00:02:44.140 And he is going to claim to the people of the book.

00:02:46.140 So you are taking that to the end?

00:02:48.140 No, no, no, no. Because here it is very clear.

00:02:50.140 Because otherwise you will contradict yourself.

00:02:52.140 Peace be upon me the day I was born.

00:02:54.140 The day I shall die.

00:02:56.140 In the future.

00:02:58.140 Meaning that Jesus is going to come back.

00:03:00.140 He is going to live. He is going to die.

00:03:02.140 And the day I shall be raised up again.

00:03:04.140 He lived. He died. And he raised up man.

00:03:06.140 Hallelujah. You are preaching the gospel man.

00:03:08.140 Yes.

00:03:09.140 From the Koran. 0.71

00:03:10.140 From the Koran. 0.71

00:03:11.140 He spoke. He spoke.

00:03:12.140 He spoke when he was in the cradle.

00:03:13.140 He was preaching the gospel from the Koran.

00:03:14.140 And he is going to speak again.

00:03:15.140 Yeah.

00:03:16.140 So if he was a miracle in the cradle.

00:03:18.140 If he was a miracle in the cradle.

00:03:19.140 Yeah.

00:03:20.140 And he spoke again.

00:03:21.140 It does not mean he spoke when he was in the adult age.

00:03:22.140 Because that is not a miracle.

00:03:23.140 I am an adult. I am speaking.

00:03:24.140 That is not a miracle.

00:03:25.140 So what is the miracle?

00:03:26.140 The miracle that he spoke from the grave.

00:03:28.140 Jesus says.

00:03:29.140 I understand.

00:03:30.140 I understand your point.

00:03:31.140 And where you are coming from.

00:03:32.140 But the point is.

00:03:33.140 It is not a miracle if he speaks when he stood up in Israel.

00:03:35.140 I completely understand and I agree with you.

00:03:37.140 But the thing is.

00:03:38.140 That was taken from the gospel of Thomas.

00:03:40.140 No.

00:03:41.140 Yes.

00:03:42.140 He is doing 200 years slayers and it's been proven a forgery.

00:03:44.140 Okay.

00:03:45.140 Okay.

00:03:46.140 So what I am saying to you is this.

00:03:47.140 That we believe.

00:03:48.140 Jesus did not die.

00:03:49.140 Neither he was crucified.

00:03:51.140 God saved him.

00:03:52.140 Yes.

00:03:53.140 From the ones that wanted to kill him.

00:03:54.140 Jesus is going to come back.

00:03:55.140 And tell the people of the book.

00:03:57.140 Yeah.

00:03:58.140 The Christians. 0.69

00:03:59.140 Our Christian.

00:04:00.140 Brothers and sisters in humanity.

00:04:01.140 That he never said he is God.

00:04:03.140 They are wrong. 1.00

00:04:04.140 He is going to kill pigs. 1.00

00:04:05.140 And he is going to kill crosses. 1.00

00:04:06.140 No, no, no. 0.98

00:04:07.140 The reason why he is going to break the cross.

00:04:08.140 Is to.

00:04:09.140 Because in the.

00:04:10.140 In the.

00:04:11.140 come on allie man you think you've been the god god of creation wants to have kids and live 0.74

00:04:19.740 for 40 years and then come on allie man

00:04:22.440 you think you've been the god god of creation wants to have kids and live for 40 years and

00:04:30.460 then come on allie man come on bro high five you're right come on that's what we're talking 0.98

00:04:34.980 You're saying that Jesus, he's going to come back, but he never died on the cross, but when he comes back, he's going to break crosses, kill pigs, and then he's going to find a wife, marry her, have some kids, and then die. 0.99

00:04:50.000 Good. Okay, listen, listen. Come here, come here. Don't run nowhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:04:53.980 It's almost funny, man. I could make a cartoon out of it.

00:04:55.980 Okay. Do you believe God is a man? Do you believe Jesus is God?

00:04:58.980 He became man, yes.

00:04:59.980 Do you believe he's God?

00:05:00.980 Yes.

00:05:01.980 Yes.

00:05:02.980 Okay, give me up, yeah?

00:05:03.980 A minute ago, you said, Ali, you laughed at me, and if I meant that, you should laugh at me. You know why?

00:05:09.980 You said that, Ali, are you telling me, this Jesus is going to come back, get married and die. God is going to get married and die. 1.00

00:05:17.980 That's our point to our Christian sisters and friends, brothers in humanity. 0.96

00:05:21.980 What we're trying to say is, let's come to common term that we worship God alone.

00:05:25.980 We do not believe Jesus was God. Why? Because Jesus was a, we believe in his miracles.

00:05:30.980 We believe in his miraculous birth. We love him. No Muslim can be a Muslim if we deny Jesus.

00:05:34.980 Why is it so different from other prophets?

00:05:35.980 Let me tell you something.

00:05:36.980 Him ya, Him ya, yeah?

00:05:37.980 Because he's got a specific mom.

00:05:38.980 Him ya, Him ya. Please, please.

00:05:39.980 The thing is, it gets diversion.

00:05:40.980 Speak from the greater one, that's it.

00:05:41.980 So, Him ya, Him ya, Him ya, Him ya, yeah?

00:05:43.980 Let's do a little trick.

00:05:44.980 So, Him ya, yeah? We believe Jesus was a mighty messenger, yeah?

00:05:47.980 I could, if I said to you guys, God came to earth, ate food. When we eat food, we have to go toilet, yeah?

00:05:53.980 Now, we believe in God. We say, God is worthy of my worship.

00:05:58.980 If I asked you guys to bow down to my iPad, would you do it?

00:06:01.980 No.

00:06:02.980 If I said bye then, say, thank you iPad for my food today.

00:06:04.980 Would you do it?

00:06:05.980 Would you do it, sister?

00:06:06.980 None of you would do it. Why?

00:06:08.980 Because you think it's an iPad, yeah?

00:06:10.980 Now, the reason we worship God five times a day, is because He's worthy of it, yeah?

00:06:14.980 So, let me give you an example. I'll give you an iPad.

00:06:17.980 Like, analogy, don't use it for legal and say, no, you said it's mine now.

00:06:22.980 You say it to me. No, thank you.

00:06:25.980 Say thank you, yeah?

00:06:26.980 You have thanked me for something I've done for you, yeah?

00:06:29.980 We believe that we thank God regardless.

00:06:32.980 He's worthy of worship, yeah?

00:06:34.980 Everything that I have, yeah?

00:06:36.980 Everything that He's done, even looking at the creation, it's like, it's magnificent.

00:06:39.980 Look at me. Imagine, look around you.

00:06:41.980 Perfect.

00:06:42.980 So, what we do is, we praise Him.

00:06:43.980 We do not believe He was a man. Why?

00:06:45.980 Because we believe man is weak.

00:06:47.980 God is not weak.

00:06:48.980 Man is not knowing, God is unknowing.

00:06:50.980 So, that's why when Jesus was asked by the Israelites,

00:06:54.980 When is the hour?

00:06:56.980 He said, I do not know.

00:06:57.980 Neither do the angels, except my Father.

00:06:59.980 Father in heaven.

00:07:00.980 Now, He's referred to us as Father, but we do not believe in that term.

00:07:03.980 We call Him God.

00:07:04.980 Even when some of His disciples came to Him and said,

00:07:06.980 Oh, good master, what must I do to get eternal life?

00:07:09.980 He said, why do you call me good?

00:07:10.980 There is only one good and that's God alone.

00:07:12.980 So, what we're trying to do is,

00:07:13.980 But you know that verse there?

00:07:15.980 You know that verse there, where He said to Him,

00:07:17.980 Why do you call me good?

00:07:18.980 Are you calling me God?

00:07:19.980 Because the man, He had not, He had not manifested Himself as God.

00:07:23.980 So, the man's coming, good rabbi, good rabbi.

00:07:25.980 Yeah.

00:07:26.980 So, Jesus is pointing out to Him,

00:07:27.980 Why are you calling me God?

00:07:28.980 Why are you calling me good?

00:07:29.980 No, no, but one second.

00:07:30.980 Right?

00:07:31.980 You don't know if I'm God.

00:07:32.980 Why are you calling me good? 0.99

00:07:33.980 Then you say to me, Ali, it's silly.

00:07:34.980 The fact that you're saying, 1.00

00:07:35.980 God is going to come down, get married and die. 0.99

00:07:37.980 Yes. 0.99

00:07:38.980 But this is the same thing.

00:07:39.980 Why is God coming back?

00:07:40.980 Why is God coming back?

00:07:41.980 Can I say?

00:07:42.980 You know what you said about the food?

00:07:43.980 About we eat and we go to the toilet?

00:07:44.980 Yes.

00:07:45.980 God does not do that, right?

00:07:46.980 Hold on.

00:07:47.980 In Genesis 22, God, Yahweh, presented Himself in front of Abraham with three men.

00:07:53.980 They sat down and had a meal.

00:07:55.980 With God?

00:07:56.980 God sat down and had a meal with Abraham.

00:07:59.980 Okay, is that worth your question?

00:08:00.980 Okay, I'm asking everyone a question.

00:08:01.980 God ate food with Abraham.

00:08:03.980 Okay, how can I worship a God that relies on food?

00:08:06.980 My brother, listen.

00:08:07.980 God can't eat a meal with Abraham, right? 0.96

00:08:11.980 Look, look, look, hear yourself.

00:08:13.980 God...

00:08:14.980 This is what the scriptures are saying.

00:08:15.980 It's not my opinion.

00:08:16.980 No, no, no, no.

00:08:17.980 But either the scriptures are right or the scriptures are wrong.

00:08:19.980 Look at what you're saying.

00:08:20.980 The scriptures are right.

00:08:21.980 God ate a meal.

00:08:24.980 With Abraham.

00:08:25.980 With Abraham.

00:08:26.980 With Abraham.

00:08:27.980 That's okay.

00:08:28.980 God ate a meal.

00:08:30.980 With Abraham.

00:08:31.980 With the person.

00:08:32.980 Yes.

00:08:33.980 Okay.

00:08:34.980 I find that troubling.

00:08:35.980 Yeah, you would find troubling because your friends...

00:08:36.980 No, no, no, no.

00:08:37.980 Let me ask you a question.

00:08:38.980 Hold on.

00:08:39.980 Let me say it and then you can say it.

00:08:41.980 The problem is you are thinking fleshly, right?

00:08:44.980 God is different dimensional.

00:08:46.980 Jesus appeared to his apostles in a locked room, right?

00:08:50.980 Then he said put the breakfast on.

00:08:51.980 Cook a fish.

00:08:52.980 They cooked the fish.

00:08:53.980 He ate.

00:08:54.980 And then he disappeared.

00:08:55.980 His dimension...

00:08:57.980 He can...

00:08:58.980 That food...

00:08:59.980 He doesn't have to go to the toilet.

00:09:00.980 His dimension...

00:09:01.980 Do you understand?

00:09:02.980 Yes.

00:09:03.980 You are not grasping the attributes of God.

00:09:05.980 Let's supposedly go with your theory.

00:09:07.980 If you are going to agree with that, then that means God can come in a man.

00:09:10.980 He can come and do anything.

00:09:11.980 According to that theory.

00:09:12.980 So let me ask you a question.

00:09:14.980 Why in a man?

00:09:15.980 Why in a man?

00:09:16.980 Well, God came in a tree in the Quran. 0.70

00:09:18.980 He spoke from a tree in the Quran.

00:09:20.980 Did he not?

00:09:21.980 It wasn't coming from the tree.

00:09:22.980 Give me the significance of why a man.

00:09:24.980 Oh, but the voice was in the tree.

00:09:26.980 No, we can't say the voice is in the tree.

00:09:27.980 We believe...

00:09:28.980 Right, the voice...

00:09:29.980 But the tree was manifest in God.

00:09:30.980 The Quran says...

00:09:31.980 Yes.

00:09:32.980 There is nothing like him.

00:09:35.980 Why not?

00:09:36.980 Why?

00:09:37.980 Because we are his creation.

00:09:38.980 Why?

00:09:39.980 We are his creation.

00:09:40.980 And you need to know the truth of Jesus Christ.

00:09:42.980 That's why a man.

00:09:43.980 Brother, can you just kindly allow...

00:09:45.980 Because the thing is...

00:09:46.980 We are going to different topics.

00:09:48.980 Did you not say to me and laugh at me...

00:09:50.980 The fact that God came down and got married.

00:09:52.980 Now you are saying...

00:09:53.980 God can't get married. 0.87

00:09:54.980 God can't get married. 0.99

00:09:55.980 He can't come here and die.

00:09:56.980 But God can have...

00:09:57.980 I am not saying he can't. 1.00

00:09:58.980 I am saying he is stupid. 1.00

00:09:59.980 Because that's... 1.00

00:10:00.980 He can't marry... 0.54

00:10:01.980 How is he going to marry his creation?

00:10:02.980 He created a creation.

00:10:04.980 Like this young lady... 1.00

00:10:05.980 Why are you standing there?

00:10:06.980 You need to come and stand here.

00:10:07.980 You are making my point.

00:10:08.980 Come and stand here with me.

00:10:09.980 Alright.

00:10:10.980 We need to...

00:10:11.980 Here, I am going to talk to you.

00:10:12.980 Come here.

00:10:13.980 You are going to stand there.

00:10:14.980 Then you need to talk to yourself.

00:10:15.980 You are making the point for me.

00:10:16.980 Yeah, I am making the point for you.

00:10:17.980 Because God cannot...

00:10:19.980 God cannot be a man. 0.92

00:10:20.980 God cannot...

00:10:21.980 No, no, you are saying that.

00:10:22.980 God cannot get married. 0.93

00:10:24.980 I am a man.

00:10:25.980 Okay.

00:10:26.980 I am going to make it very simple.

00:10:27.980 Are you limiting God?

00:10:28.980 Okay.

00:10:29.980 Has Allah not got the power to come and become a man or come as a man? 0.98

00:10:32.980 So can I say this then?

00:10:33.980 God is very powerful.

00:10:34.980 Right.

00:10:35.980 Can God become a chair?

00:10:36.980 Can God become a chair?

00:10:37.980 The reason is why would he?

00:10:39.980 Can he become a chair?

00:10:40.980 Why would he?

00:10:41.980 Okay, but...

00:10:42.980 But why would he though?

00:10:43.980 One second, one second.

00:10:44.980 Exactly.

00:10:45.980 So now the question is...

00:10:46.980 If we say...

00:10:47.980 Unless he is going to redeem all chairs.

00:10:49.980 If we say...

00:10:50.980 If we say...

00:10:51.980 If we say...

00:10:52.980 God is the most powerful.

00:10:53.980 Because it's to redeem you of your sins.

00:10:54.980 How would he show his power?

00:10:55.980 No.

00:10:56.980 By becoming a chair.

00:10:57.980 That shows...

00:10:58.980 That shows...

00:10:59.980 That...

00:11:00.980 It doesn't show his power.

00:11:01.980 It's nonsense.

00:11:02.980 God is logical.

00:11:03.980 What you're suggesting is illogical.

00:11:04.980 Allow me to finish.

00:11:05.980 I understand.

00:11:06.980 We can't say...

00:11:07.980 God.

00:11:08.980 Show me how powerful you are.

00:11:09.980 Become my trainers.

00:11:10.980 Let me wear it.

00:11:11.980 Get it.

00:11:12.980 No, because...

00:11:13.980 That doesn't show his power.

00:11:14.980 No, no, no, no.

00:11:15.980 Don't tempt the Lord.

00:11:16.980 What that does is...

00:11:17.980 No, no.

00:11:18.980 What that does is...

00:11:19.980 It shows that...

00:11:20.980 Just because...

00:11:21.980 You can't say to God...

00:11:22.980 Oh God.

00:11:23.980 If you can become whatever...

00:11:24.980 Even in your creation...

00:11:25.980 Or you become a sausage roll.

00:11:26.980 It doesn't show his power.

00:11:27.980 It shows his back of power.

00:11:28.980 We say...

00:11:29.980 God does what befits his majesty.

00:11:31.980 So I can't come and say...

00:11:32.980 God.

00:11:33.980 Why don't you become a tree?

00:11:34.980 Because...

00:11:35.980 God has made the tree.

00:11:36.980 Yes.

00:11:37.980 God is the most powerful.

00:11:38.980 Yes?

00:11:39.980 Yes.

00:11:40.980 Is he the all-knowing?

00:11:41.980 He's the all-knowing.

00:11:42.980 Okay.

00:11:43.980 I'm a man.

00:11:44.980 Am I the all-knowing?

00:11:45.980 No.

00:11:46.980 Am I the all-powerful?

00:11:47.980 No.

00:11:48.980 Okay.

00:11:49.980 So how can God become a man?

00:11:50.980 Because you're...

00:11:51.980 You're putting...

00:11:52.980 Yourself...

00:11:53.980 You're not assuming...

00:11:54.980 God's power...

00:11:55.980 Creational power... 1.00

00:11:56.980 And God's transcendent power...

00:11:57.980 To hurt him...

00:11:58.980 To become a man.

00:11:59.980 Do you understand?

00:12:00.980 We're talking about Christ...

00:12:02.980 The Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary...

00:12:04.980 And a holy thing was conceived.

00:12:06.980 That...

00:12:07.980 Christ existed before... 0.74

00:12:09.980 Christ created Mary. 0.76

00:12:11.980 Just to put it into your head.

00:12:12.980 He created his mother.

00:12:14.980 Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:12:15.980 Jesus existed before his birth...

00:12:17.980 Before his incarnation.

00:12:19.980 Does that make sense?

00:12:20.980 It does make sense.

00:12:21.980 God made his mother... 0.98

00:12:23.980 Absolutely.

00:12:24.980 His mother gave birth to him.

00:12:25.980 Yes.

00:12:26.980 Think about...

00:12:27.980 His fate...

00:12:30.980 How do you know...

00:12:31.980 He was betrayed...

00:12:33.980 Yeshua ...

00:12:34.980 He was separated...

00:12:37.980 He was rejected...

00:12:39.980 Him...

00:12:40.980 He marched...

00:12:42.980 He was betrayed.

00:12:43.980 Jesus was benefited... 0.76

00:12:45.980 ...

00:12:46.980 He asked...

00:12:48.980 To live...

00:12:50.980 He was unblocks...

00:12:52.980 One on earth...

00:12:54.980 Surah Al-Fatihah

Ali Dawah - April 22, 2019

CHRISTIANS BIG SLIP UP ON JESUS (pbuh) - SPEAKERS CORNER

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