Ali Dawah - June 21, 2026


CONFRONTING TOMMY FANS


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33 minutes

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6,762

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344

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10

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59

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119

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00:00:00.000 What's your views? 1.00
00:00:02.000 My views on immigration is, is we need to stop it at the moment. 0.81
00:00:05.000 We need to rebuild our country, we need to make some money, and we can talk about immigration in a few years time. 1.00
00:00:10.000 Shouldn't flood our nation with foreigners against our will for 30 years. 1.00
00:00:14.000 But this is England, and I'm an English man, and I'm proud of this man. 1.00
00:00:17.000 It's simple as that. There were those two homosexual men who adopted a, erm, a boy. 0.98
00:00:21.000 By look, by look, by look, you're not going to your churches, you blame us when it becomes... 0.70
00:00:25.000 Church is actually getting more people going back now, my brother's gone really Christian Paul again.
00:00:28.000 why you guys are becoming more christian because of us muslims
00:00:33.920 assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh ladies and gentlemen from all around the world
00:00:39.120 today is sunday july the 27th 2025 and we gathered here in south of gaza trip most of
00:00:45.840 anyone share our concerns about the ongoing crisis in gaza strip during the humanitarian crisis that
00:00:51.920 that Gaza and its people are undergoing,
00:00:54.580 food in general, and flour, bread especially,
00:00:57.880 is becoming luxurious and rare.
00:00:59.940 It's not available for the citizens.
00:01:02.000 So our mission here is to support these citizens
00:01:04.860 and to help their lives to be better
00:01:07.540 by giving them this bread.
00:01:09.560 On behalf of those citizens and those families,
00:01:12.680 we thank Watt Forever for this wonderful support.
00:01:15.520 It will be a reason for making the people happy.
00:01:18.400 Thank you for being a reason in this effort.
00:01:21.920 All right, so we have, inshallah appreciate it.
00:01:51.900 we have the far left there they didn't let us in we came here for the debate i didn't believe the
00:01:55.480 debate should go ahead but if it was going to go ahead that we should be there to represent
00:01:59.760 that was going to be there so we've got the communists here as you can see and then we had
00:02:05.200 the far left there they did not let us in they said no etc they don't want people to be there
00:02:10.380 they're like oh it's not worth it um why are you platform them i'm like you're right i'm saying
00:02:16.180 they shouldn't be platform if they're going to be platform they should be debated and so the
00:02:20.500 still gonna happen inshallah we're gonna go check let's go to the other side and check inshallah
00:02:26.580 what is going on there hello all right so so here i think we have some counterproductive
00:02:32.900 some communists here i think my dad's a communist
00:02:36.660 uh all right let's see let's see what we have huh
00:02:47.380 Less hate, more cake.
00:03:10.340 There you go, you need less hate and more hate.
00:03:22.660 Hello, how are you sir, you alright? Yes, yes. Are they letting us go through that side or they're not?
00:03:29.460 Who's on the other side?
00:03:30.340 are you guys the same protesters with the guys over there okay who are these guys in the middle
00:03:54.420 we're facing off against them yeah those guys are blocking the side entrance to the union
00:03:59.060 Can I ask you a quick question? You know, I've talked to Tommy Robinson myself in person because of his rhetoric.
00:04:09.060 Well, I'm sure you do. His selective outrage. He's more concerned about the culprit rather than the victim.
00:04:15.060 Like if it's a white man who's doing the act of filial or stabbing someone, he does not care about it.
00:04:21.060 No, because he's never cared about it. It's never been about being with children. It's always been about...
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00:04:46.660 He's thinking of a reason for hatred and victimization 0.98
00:04:49.860 on communities that he thinks they're definitely probably.
00:04:53.860 He's also shifting his targets over the years.
00:04:56.260 yes because actually it goes where the breath is yes
00:05:14.100 i mean he called himself a patriot he went there they were snapping him on his hand they said there's
00:05:17.140 a special place for the british in the hellfire and he did not say a single word and what he was
00:05:21.220 in the epstein files where they said he's cheap at any price so i think that makes sense i think
00:05:25.540 is more sickening for me that he's more concerned about the corporate life but you'll agree we
00:05:29.540 don't care about the color or whoever you are it's the act that's been done that's wrong 1.00
00:05:34.340 yeah and for him he's more concerned about was it a muslim but he's not concerned about it 0.83
00:05:39.060 he's not that was always just the excuse exactly which is more terrifying he doesn't even give a 0.71
00:05:43.220 credit for victims yeah yeah you look at the there's a list kicking around somewhere about
00:05:50.660 100 odd far-right pedophiles oh yeah none of them some of them is close friends and about yeah about
00:05:55.860 20 of them yeah yeah yeah you know and he's never been bothered by that that's that's that's that's
00:06:01.300 so concerning yes yes yes yes i mean i mean they are well let's be honest yeah well there's nothing
00:06:11.540 to do thank you i appreciate it thank you thank you thank you well let's see if we can go to the
00:06:16.420 Let's see if we can go to the other side.
00:06:46.420 So what is this? Is this the far eye? I think it was there, didn't he go? No, I think they are, I think this is them, I don't know, I think it was all the way there. How you doing, you alright? It's empty. Yeah, how you doing, you alright?
00:07:11.420 yeah it's good not bad how's it going you okay it's good to see you back down all right yeah
00:07:16.300 yeah we're just came checking out so yeah so is this is this the counter protest what is this
00:07:23.420 the counter protest oh okay i don't know i just came here yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no no i don't
00:07:36.700 I think we should. I don't think anyone should make death threats.
00:07:38.700 Is that your brother?
00:07:40.700 Oh, is that your brother?
00:07:42.700 Your biological brother?
00:07:44.700 Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
00:07:46.700 He was talking a lot.
00:07:48.700 Not much substance, sadly.
00:07:50.700 I'm in that.
00:07:52.700 I'm in this, I swear.
00:07:54.700 Yeah, Friday, Saturday, if you want to come.
00:07:56.700 No problem.
00:08:02.700 So, okay, I think we're in the midst.
00:08:04.700 I don't know where. So this is the, this is the, so there's no one here. No, no one is
00:08:13.060 that one. I think it's, I think that was, I think that was drunk. I don't know, I don't
00:08:22.520 know. I don't know.
00:08:34.700 Hello, my friend, are you guys a counter-protest?
00:08:37.700 Yeah, so what we're saying is, no matter who the speaker is, you know, the university
00:08:44.700 is known to have very controversial speakers in there.
00:08:47.700 What we're saying is, let's not silence him because of his views.
00:08:50.700 We can't say whether they're right or good, I'm not going to sit here and say he's the
00:08:54.700 best person in the world, you know what I mean?
00:08:56.700 We're just saying we can't silence somebody, because he's got different views to other
00:09:01.700 people.
00:09:02.700 Do you think Tommy Robinson would agree if Anjum Chowdhury was giving a speech yesterday?
00:09:07.420 Do you know Anjum Chowdhury?
00:09:08.940 No, I ain't got a clue.
00:09:09.740 Do you know Anjum Chowdhury?
00:09:10.780 I'm a Muslim.
00:09:12.860 So he's somebody who's on the extreme side of our religion. 0.96
00:09:15.660 More ISIS inclined, yes? 0.97
00:09:17.420 So they're extremely on that side.
00:09:19.340 So Tommy Robinson will be absolutely against him speaking.
00:09:23.100 Not only that, not only that I myself attended one of Tommy's events.
00:09:26.220 I was invited.
00:09:27.260 Freedom of speech.
00:09:28.300 We were physically attacked.
00:09:29.900 We were not allowed on.
00:09:31.020 so i agree with you there has to be consistency that if you are but the funny thing is
00:09:35.500 that when tommy had a march or an event we was uh invited seats were invited everyone but when we
00:09:41.420 went there they attacked us so don't think that's hypocrisy yeah i'm sorry for that that's not my
00:09:47.820 view i love everybody yeah but you know you know but you don't see what's your views listen i don't
00:09:55.420 agree with what he's done in the past you know what i mean but i think he's come back as a different
00:09:59.260 person he wants to do the right thing now that's my personal opinion if it's wrong i hold myself
00:10:05.580 in contact you know what i mean you know and i i've never i've never been supported in my life
00:10:10.140 yeah like i said i love everybody no matter what face you know i see good in everybody yeah i think
00:10:14.780 he has some valid concerns but i think he's the wrong person to lead that there are valid concerns
00:10:19.500 in this country with a lot of stuff etc i agree but the thing is he has no evidence for example
00:10:24.860 when he comes and says it's the migrants that are coming here. I agree that if there are 1.00
00:10:31.100 people coming from certain countries who their lifestyle is completely different to ours and 0.97
00:10:36.780 they are there and argument's sake, I'm not saying there has to be evidence, they're barbarians. 0.98
00:10:42.220 They cut each other's heads off. When they come here, they might think that's normal. It's not.
00:10:46.220 I agree. But I need data. I need data. So at the end of the day, I need staff to come and say,
00:10:50.860 hold on a second if we're having an influence of immigrants and these immigrants are bloody violent 1.00
00:10:56.220 and where they live they have never seen a woman dress up however they dress up we are and they 1.00
00:11:01.420 can't okay i agree that these kind of people if they they cannot assimilate because they can't
00:11:06.300 if then i can say you know he has a point firstly i don't see that what i see is selective outrage
00:11:11.580 for example if it's a pedophile if it's a white pedophile and we know many horrific cases one of
00:11:16.540 when I was in Scotland. 0.97
00:11:17.780 He does not say a word.
00:11:19.240 Okay, the key is this, why is he not concerned?
00:11:21.080 That angers me about him.
00:11:21.960 Okay, why does he do that though?
00:11:23.000 That's because, look, let me be,
00:11:24.500 the moment he finds out,
00:11:25.500 because I know his close friends,
00:11:26.480 Kayden Robertson and Lucy, who I used to work with him.
00:11:29.140 They told me that he used to get happy
00:11:30.760 when they used to be a terrorist attack.
00:11:32.320 Meaning, he is more concerned about the culprit
00:11:35.900 rather than the victim. 0.85
00:11:37.240 That to me is sickening. 1.00
00:11:38.400 Because to me, I hate if you're a pedophile, 1.00
00:11:40.320 if you're white, green, blue, yellow, 1.00
00:11:41.600 Muslim, not Muslim, whatever you are, 0.99
00:11:43.340 even the majority of pedophiles are white, middle-edged men. 0.98
00:11:45.700 I'm not saying every single one, but he is more concerned about who the culprit is rather than the victim. 0.94
00:11:53.700 Do you think that's sickening? 1.00
00:11:56.700 I think we've got an influx of people coming to this country that's undocumented. 1.00
00:12:02.700 Like you said, I can't talk on Tommy on his views. I can only talk on my own views.
00:12:10.700 What's your views? 1.00
00:12:12.700 My views on immigration is we need to stop it at the moment. 1.00
00:12:16.020 We need to rebuild our country, we need to make some money, 1.00
00:12:18.660 and we can talk about immigration in a few years' time. 0.82
00:12:21.980 At the moment, we haven't got the infrastructure,
00:12:24.180 we haven't got the money, we haven't got the homes,
00:12:25.980 because if you import more people, you need more homes. 0.98
00:12:29.500 We haven't got the homes, we haven't got the NHS to cope a bit,
00:12:32.020 and the police resources are so under-tied that,
00:12:34.460 you know, who's making money from the hotels?
00:12:36.180 They don't want to be in a hotel, do they?
00:12:37.380 They want to work. 0.96
00:12:38.940 The politicians always work. 1.00
00:12:40.940 Should have been here in the first place bro, should have flood our nation with foreigners against our will for 30 years, no, no hate to any individuals bro, but this is England and I'm an Englishman and I'm proud of this man, when we've said for years against immigration right, and they've completely ignored us and upped the numbers, the numbers are a piss take my friend, no hate to anybody of any colour, but as a white British man, why in the last 15-20 years have I felt like the most trendy thing to be as a white man in my own country, that makes me 1.00
00:13:10.920 feel like shit. And the same for a lot of us white people in this country. Slow immigration 1.00
00:13:15.060 down, deport loads of people, because if we don't, race is going to rise, and we're all 1.00
00:13:19.020 going to financially struggle and have all the same problems, except you and ethnic people 1.00
00:13:22.120 with colour, are probably going to be affected by race and abort, because the symptoms causing 0.95
00:13:25.680 it to rise massively. 0.76
00:13:27.680 I'm one of the mobsleders, right, born and bred here, and that's, I know, I understand
00:13:32.280 your anger and your, what you don't realise, or what a lot of people don't seem to realise
00:13:37.860 It's the billionaire's fault, but the billionaires are important, everyone.
00:13:42.860 No, no, but it's like...
00:13:43.860 In on Musk, the billionaire.
00:13:45.860 It is, isn't it?
00:13:47.860 And the politicians, it really is politicians, they are milking that fear, and they are making...
00:13:53.860 Hold on a minute, when I walk around Coventry's city centre, and I know for a fact that the demographic change has been rapid in that city centre,
00:14:00.860 and my little girl, me and my baby mum both agree, we don't want her walking around that city centre because we've built fair with it.
00:14:06.860 We shouldn't have to feel like that in our own country.
00:14:08.860 That's because of the information. 1.00
00:14:10.860 That is mass immigration. 1.00
00:14:12.860 It's a problem. 1.00
00:14:14.860 I believe, as an Englishman, you have every right.
00:14:18.860 I might be classed as British, whatever you want to call that.
00:14:20.860 Yeah, you're civically British.
00:14:22.860 Yeah, okay.
00:14:24.860 So I believe, as an Englishman, you have a right to,
00:14:26.860 if these things are happening,
00:14:28.860 I don't know, what would it be
00:14:30.860 that you say that you fear walking in Coventry?
00:14:32.860 Is there an actual fear, or do you think there is a potential fear?
00:14:34.860 Well, I'll be brutal with it. We're reporting those. The third world migrants, right, and down by that bloody transport we see, which, inside that building, has some of the most historical things on this planet to do with the car industry, the fucking penny barbings in there, which is the invention of bicycles. Outside, all you've got is these foreigners that have come over and sitting there getting drunk, drunk, being intimidating. You don't even want to walk through your own city centre anyway. What, because the government have decided against our will to support loads of people. Yet, when we complain about it, we're the racists and bad guys.
00:15:04.140 Okay. I mean, I think you have some genuine concerns. I don't want to label you anything
00:15:08.380 because I think there are some genuine concerns.
00:15:09.380 Nah, you debate. I know you're right.
00:15:10.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there are some genuine concerns in the British public. So,
00:15:13.380 would you say if you walked down those roads and those drunk druggies were white men, would 0.90
00:15:18.820 you still have the same concern? 0.87
00:15:20.460 Well, yeah, but that has always been a problem, right? And that is our own problem to deal
00:15:26.100 with. Every country has to deal with their own shitheads, right? That's just a fact, 1.00
00:15:30.140 isn't it?
00:15:31.140 Okay, good.
00:15:32.140 Okay, good. Perfect.
00:15:33.140 now when we're talking about shitheads okay here so the key here is that for example when 0.97
00:15:37.220 we look at tommy robinson tommy robinson is doing selective outrage so me as a muslim my 0.98
00:15:41.860 religion teaches me that anyone that's perpetrating out of violence or whatever it's child molestation
00:15:46.260 whatever they should be dealt with severely yeah yeah i i i i i i believe in capital punishment
00:15:52.180 yeah it's simple as that there were those two homosexual men who adopted a um yeah in public 0.60
00:15:58.100 in public i will i'll volunteer i'll volunteer yeah so the thing is the sentence is there however
00:16:02.020 However, when we look at Tommy Robertson on the far right, it's that...
00:16:05.020 Tommy's not far right.
00:16:06.020 Okay, okay, okay. Whatever you want to call him.
00:16:08.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:09.020 Why is it that when an attack happens,
00:16:11.020 so many times he's blamed to be a Muslim or a foreign and he found out it's not even inside him? 0.91
00:16:15.020 So he's more concerned that if the paedophile is a black, Asian, foreign, or Muslim, or Sikh, whatever, 0.69
00:16:21.020 but the moment he finds that it's a white middle-aged man, yes, he doesn't talk about it.
00:16:26.020 So does he really care about the victims?
00:16:28.020 Well, I can't talk for Tommy.
00:16:30.020 I can't talk for Tommy on what you've said there, but what I can say here is to say that we don't have outrage against our own one is outrageous, we have our own team cell to handle, yeah we do, I've got loads of protest videos on my channel, getting them taken out of houses, if we find out there's a pita pod in our area, I get a phone call, we do a protest, we make the police grudge back from out of there to protect the kids in the area, so we do call our own out, I don't know why Tommy does that, I'll do it
00:16:57.380 Good, so I've spoken to you, I've spoken to this young man, what's your name?
00:17:00.180 Aidan
00:17:01.180 Aidan
00:17:01.880 Aidan, yeah? Both of you seem like you oppose Tommy in that specific thing
00:17:05.880 You don't have selective errors, you're consistent
00:17:08.380 Some things that Tommy's done in the past, like sometimes with his journalism 1.00
00:17:11.380 I know you're a Muslim, you're not going to like what you're saying 0.99
00:17:13.380 But the way he looked into the grooming gang's thing, I thought it was great journalism 0.92
00:17:16.880 I would not blame him for that
00:17:17.880 I as a Muslim would never come and say, oh why did you...
00:17:21.880 The pro-Israel stuff at the minute
00:17:23.880 Yes
00:17:24.380 I, among with others, have turned us off Tommy a bit 1.00
00:17:26.880 Israel is a pedophile, a heathen for those... 1.00
00:17:29.380 I ain't a fan of the Jews. 1.00
00:17:30.180 Look, look, look, look. 1.00
00:17:31.180 I'm not a fan of Israel. 1.00
00:17:33.180 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:17:34.180 I'm talking about the state of Israel and I'm talking about Zionists. 0.99
00:17:36.180 Yeah, yeah, not a big fan. 1.00
00:17:37.180 I don't think it's bad.
00:17:38.180 Some England first.
00:17:39.180 That's... 0.99
00:17:40.180 For me, Palestine and Israel being not my feet. 0.97
00:17:42.180 That's... 0.97
00:17:43.180 Do you know what I mean?
00:17:44.180 I get what you want to try to...
00:17:45.180 That's another topic.
00:17:46.180 But have you seen... 0.86
00:17:47.180 I've never seen a single post from Tommy Robinson of a Zionist pedophile being caught. 0.96
00:17:52.180 And most of them return back to Israel because they have a right to return. 0.96
00:17:55.180 so israel has become a safe haven for pedophiles but there's our media because they're run by the 0.98
00:17:59.580 jews okay okay suppress that lot you know okay okay okay okay well that's a discussion and the 0.98
00:18:04.460 only one that's run by zionists is tommy robinson without disrespect yeah he's in mcf they say he's
00:18:08.540 cheap at any price okay so the key is this though you guys are both consistent you say whoever the
00:18:13.580 culprit is we deal with the culprit we don't care what color he is but we don't see that from him
00:18:18.220 and that what causes happens is when he keeps talking about the foreigner the foreigner the 0.75
00:18:21.580 foreigner you feel fear walking in commentary road because you're thinking one of these foreigners
00:18:26.700 is he is that what to be talking about he has to pay for his bill so he has to talk about yeah
00:18:51.580 I haven't seen pictures of his son in Rolex and private jets.
00:18:54.580 He has to find that lifestyle.
00:18:56.580 But you see what's happening, Tommy Robinson is here spewing his hate,
00:19:02.580 while people like you are seeing the foreigners as an enemy,
00:19:05.580 while his son is flying on private jets with Rolexes because of the money.
00:19:12.580 So while you are having a beef or fee of walking down your own country road,
00:19:17.580 he is up there. 0.99
00:19:19.580 He just came back from Edomar's father, who's a bit of a flippant sexual predator, who married 0.98
00:19:24.960 his own stepdaughter, I mean, yeah. 0.98
00:19:29.840 So Tommy's sitting with them and he has an audacity to talk about pedophiles, yes? 0.82
00:19:33.820 To me, I just see this as a hypocrisy.
00:19:36.400 See, this is where everyone gets me, they always drop to me the, oh, it's about women
00:19:41.200 and children thing, which it is for me, but that's never what I've stood there and portrayed.
00:19:45.580 I've portrayed the whole side of it, immigration is high, England belongs to the English, but I don't know what, but he's debating in there, is he not?
00:19:54.580 Why is he not allowed to be debating?
00:19:56.580 Well, the thing is, I didn't debate, I was supposed to attend.
00:19:59.580 Yeah, why are you debating? 0.90
00:20:01.580 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a midget, intellectual midget as well. 0.91
00:20:05.580 See, for me, when he is down to pay, I'll leave that speaker's corner. 0.75
00:20:08.580 Yeah, yeah, he's not ready to deal with that. The thing is, they didn't let us in, that's fine, I'm not going to be the customer, I don't really care, I'll be honest with you.
00:20:13.580 bro i've done it in the news today he's doing a fantastic job uh but again like to me it seems
00:20:17.340 like you guys don't really align with tommy me like i spoke to young people like i'm not saying
00:20:22.220 everything no because a lot for me you're consistent you care about the culprit i am
00:20:26.620 i'm a nationalist i'm my own boss i ain't been joining those silly little groups yeah i ain't
00:20:31.660 becoming one of the ones i because obviously with tommy it's all like they're like a little bit of
00:20:34.940 a click yeah yeah yeah yeah but i'm not going to completely stand tommy off some of the stuff
00:20:40.060 done good but there is things other things that are questionable isn't it like all of us you should
00:20:44.460 question everybody yeah yeah yeah all of us yeah do you think his words and his propaganda play a
00:20:50.940 role in people like you to fear mongering like do you don't you think sometimes there's something
00:20:56.140 brewing up and he wants a civil war i don't think tommy wants a civil war oh he does he's i mean
00:21:01.580 he said it the young men get prepared etc you know is is what's he calling for i know he's behind
00:21:07.980 Yeah, but this is what you've got to understand. When there is a counter-protest with Tommy having this debate in here,
00:21:12.980 as the discussion ends and we can no longer discuss, right, what he's doing in here,
00:21:16.980 that's when the violence begins, right? We never want to get to that.
00:21:19.980 So you're saying that we should talk about the discourse. We need to have the discourse.
00:21:22.980 I agree. I believe, to a certain extent, but I believe Tommy Robinson is a hypocrite to that. 0.98
00:21:26.980 Because if Anjum Chowdhury was speaking there, he would be protesting. 0.84
00:21:29.980 Yeah.
00:21:30.980 So that's funny though to him, because the thing is, he talks about freedom of speech.
00:21:33.980 Not only that, I went to his march, I was in freedom of protest, freedom of speech, I was invited and we got physically assaulted.
00:21:41.980 So you can see it's just a big fat lie, that he doesn't believe in freedom of speech.
00:21:46.480 Because if Anjum Chowdhury was there giving a talk, he would, you guys and the far right would be here protesting, why are you letting ISIS come off our street?
00:21:53.980 Chowdhury was being extreme.
00:21:54.980 Which he is, but that's the key, we believe Tommy's being extreme.
00:21:57.980 Yeah, yeah, but I don't think Tommy's as extreme on that side as what Chowdhury was. 0.76
00:22:01.980 I think Choudhury is more damaging to Islam than what Harvey is to the right of the politics. 0.70
00:22:06.980 We've had people like Andrews Breivik, who carried out the terrorist attack in Norway. 0.93
00:22:10.980 Yeah, but you know that, come on, Christian terrorism compared to Muslim terrorism is 248,000 since 2001. 1.00
00:22:16.980 No, no, no, you're just getting numbers right. If you look at in history, who's killed the most amount of people? 0.98
00:22:21.980 Christians are number one, and then it's atheism. Islam is fifth in the land. 1.00
00:22:24.980 I'm talking about, if we're going to see a pattern, since history goes back as far as it can, 1.00
00:22:31.980 the Christians have committed 1.00
00:22:33.280 mass amounts of atrocities 1.00
00:22:34.660 period
00:22:35.220 200
00:22:35.940 okay good
00:22:36.540 no no no
00:22:36.840 one second
00:22:37.060 so what I'm saying is that
00:22:38.520 Tommy Robinson has to be consistent
00:22:40.460 he's not
00:22:41.220 you get what I'm trying to say
00:22:42.240 he's not
00:22:42.640 when it comes to Andrew Traudry
00:22:43.940 he would be
00:22:44.360 and you said
00:22:44.700 he's not as extreme
00:22:45.580 he is
00:22:45.880 because Andrew's brother
00:22:46.660 carried that attack
00:22:47.300 and in his
00:22:47.820 in the document that he wrote
00:22:52.800 he said that he was inspired by Tommy
00:22:55.060 or something along those lines
00:22:56.040 okay
00:22:56.260 and then we have the guy
00:22:57.100 who ran over people
00:22:58.220 instead of Finsbury Park Mosque
00:22:59.980 yes
00:23:00.200 he said
00:23:01.120 he watched videos of Tommy Robinson.
00:23:02.640 So now, what's the difference between him and Anjum Chowdhury?
00:23:05.040 ISIS members watch Anjum Chowdhury and want to kill innocent people like the British men walking, what?
00:23:09.120 And then before we watch Tommy Robinson, we want to go and kill innocent people.
00:23:12.280 Well, both sides are bad, but you can't shut both sides down because of that. 0.57
00:23:16.080 Good, one second.
00:23:17.280 If what they're propagating is going to cause people to lose their life,
00:23:20.480 should they be allowed to platform or not?
00:23:23.440 It's a difficult balance here, isn't it?
00:23:25.280 Tommy would stop Anjum Chowdhury,
00:23:27.920 but for himself, he would say no.
00:23:30.080 Even, you know the guy who carried out 52 people in the mosque in New Zealand while he was recording it live?
00:23:34.080 Yeah, that's right. 0.96
00:23:35.080 Okay, okay. Him himself, yes, he had all the crusaders references written in.
00:23:40.080 He himself donated to a cause that Tom Robinson believed to.
00:23:45.080 So you see there's connections, that's the reason why I hear what they're saying.
00:23:48.080 That's like you said, that's like me saying when you speak, because I know you've got big fat.
00:23:52.080 Anyone in court that's listened to you and goes and does something tragic against a white man printed, is that your fault?
00:23:58.080 If I propagate hate towards the white men, yes.
00:24:01.480 I don't. I do not go into anybody and say harm a specific person.
00:24:05.080 What about your mate from Birmingham?
00:24:07.080 Not Better Call Khan, you know the lawyer one.
00:24:09.080 I'm not calling him the Pakistani Batman. 0.85
00:24:11.080 You know what I mean? 0.99
00:24:12.080 Who's that one?
00:24:13.080 The other one.
00:24:14.080 We did the speech in Birmingham, we're not here to take part, we're here to take over.
00:24:18.080 Who's that? I don't know who that is.
00:24:20.080 There's the two lads from Birmingham.
00:24:22.080 One of them thinks he's a lawyer, he's like Better Call Khan.
00:24:26.080 I know, I know what you're talking about
00:24:28.080 I know another one
00:24:29.080 My point with this is
00:24:30.080 Take over what? Why are we taking over, mate?
00:24:31.080 That's what he said in his speech and I feel like he regrets it
00:24:33.080 Because when everyone ever brings it up to him, it's like he regrets it
00:24:36.080 But do you not think he's Muslims, you hold responsibility to say, stop poking at us as well
00:24:40.080 100% 0.94
00:24:41.080 Have you not seen that white Muslim that's going around on TikTok going, we've took over your church? 1.00
00:24:45.080 That's a piss thing 1.00
00:24:46.080 That is a piss thing
00:24:47.080 I saw that video and I thought to myself 1.00
00:24:49.080 It's damaging that is to Islam 0.81
00:24:51.080 It's not just damaging Islam 1.00
00:24:53.080 Why do you find the need to go and say we're taking over?
00:24:56.080 Look, with all due respect, if Christians are not going to the church, don't blame us Muslims.
00:25:00.000 If we're more faithful to our faith.
00:25:01.360 However, for me to go and be like, oh, we'll talk over this church.
00:25:03.600 I think it's totally sympathetic.
00:25:04.720 It's insulting.
00:25:05.280 I'll be honest, it is insulting because at the end of the day,
00:25:07.360 look, there is a reality that you need to understand when it comes to your birth rate.
00:25:10.400 For example, you're not attending the church.
00:25:12.400 Yes, you don't have traditional values.
00:25:14.000 My argument with the birth rate is where I always have this argument with people that go, 0.89
00:25:17.280 we need to bring immigration in because the birth rate is dropping.
00:25:20.080 Well, that's where we need to have a part with the government. 1.00
00:25:21.760 You should put things in place to make our women want to go back home and have babies. 1.00
00:25:25.360 Well, that's fine, but who do you blame?
00:25:28.360 Who do you blame?
00:25:29.360 No, no, one second, but who do you blame?
00:25:30.360 People like Lauren Southern, who I confronted myself as well,
00:25:33.360 people were telling her, listen, you talk about this tradition,
00:25:35.360 go and have some babies.
00:25:36.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:25:37.360 You don't have your babies, why are you making us? 1.00
00:25:38.360 Even if we use propaganda for feminism, 1.00
00:25:40.360 we can counter propaganda to go back to the people.
00:25:42.360 But look, you're not going to your churches,
00:25:43.360 you blame us when it becomes more.
00:25:45.360 The church is actually getting more people going back now,
00:25:46.360 my brother's gone really Christian Paul again.
00:25:48.360 You know why?
00:25:49.360 You guys are becoming more Christian because of us Muslims. 0.99
00:25:51.360 Yeah, because it's a counter, 0.99
00:25:52.360 it's the best to educate Islam. 1.00
00:25:54.360 But then it's like, you don't really believe, you're like, hey, they're going to the wall. 0.99
00:25:56.840 I think, personally, though, the Abrahamic religions, and unfortunately, I think we're
00:25:59.800 always going to have a question, the Abrahamic religions have shown over time, they clash,
00:26:03.160 even forget Islam, look at Christianity, look at the island, Rutherford, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0.91
00:26:07.400 I think we have to be very careful of the balances with their religion. 0.97
00:26:11.720 So you seem like a sound guy, a lot of them have been done, but about the more extremist
00:26:15.240 ones that do want to have that mindset.
00:26:16.680 Well, well, well, well, well, we deal with that, I've had a difference from ISIS.
00:26:20.920 Good, that you have to challenge it.
00:26:22.200 Well, well, well, good. This is the reason I had a deference because I used to challenge Anjum Chowdhury's followers.
00:26:25.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:26.520 And they've actually actively given a deference. I had an Osmo woman from the police. Yes, why?
00:26:30.600 They see me as a disbeliever. That's how crazy they are. 0.94
00:26:32.920 Because it gets to the point where we go and negate the risk, all Muslims go. 1.00
00:26:35.800 Good, good. Okay, good. So that's what I'm saying. We do our bit, but when it comes to Tommy Robinson and the far right. 1.00
00:26:41.640 And his...
00:26:42.200 That's not far right.
00:26:42.920 And his...
00:26:43.880 Yeah, where everyone...
00:26:44.520 The far right don't like Tommy because he's lived Israel to be honest.
00:26:47.320 That's the real far right.
00:26:47.960 No, no, no. That's the far, far right.
00:26:50.520 That's the triple far right.
00:26:51.480 Oh, you call it ultra-right.
00:26:52.480 Ultra-right, yeah, okay.
00:26:53.480 So they're not happy with him.
00:26:54.480 So I would say, look, if everyone...
00:26:56.480 Tommy Robinson, you've never... 0.89
00:26:57.480 I've never seen him go and hunt a white paedophile. 0.98
00:26:59.480 Most paedophiles... 0.99
00:27:00.480 But his good mate does... 1.00
00:27:01.480 Who?
00:27:02.480 What's his name?
00:27:03.480 Germit goes and hunt something.
00:27:04.480 Germit?
00:27:05.480 Germit Singh goes and hunt something.
00:27:06.480 The Humpty Dumpty.
00:27:07.480 The one who came to our table.
00:27:08.480 He's doing good work.
00:27:09.480 Not a fantastic look.
00:27:10.480 As long as he's consistent.
00:27:11.480 Which, which, I have to kind of give it to him.
00:27:13.480 And I've got a concrete...
00:27:14.480 He's confronted...
00:27:15.480 He's confronted a seat guy.
00:27:16.480 He's got a seat guy.
00:27:17.480 Yeah?
00:27:18.480 I've never seen Tommy Robinson go and confront, for example, paedophilia, to us as Muslims, we're consistent morally.
00:27:26.480 Tommy's consistent strategically. What benefits him? Me, I don't care if a white girl is being abused.
00:27:33.480 I don't give a damn who the culprit is, brother. 0.99
00:27:37.480 I've got to say, you, maybe not you, but a lot of, what I feel online is a lot of the Muslims have done whites. 1.00
00:27:43.480 As soon as we bring up things like the grooming gang, which is a big problem, it's always 0.98
00:27:47.720 but there's white pedophiles. 0.67
00:27:49.720 That upsets me because we don't have our own pedophiles, we have our own team set up 0.98
00:27:53.240 to hold them.
00:27:54.240 You do.
00:27:55.240 I've got videos on my channel.
00:27:56.240 I've got friends.
00:27:57.240 He doesn't.
00:27:58.240 You do.
00:27:59.240 He doesn't.
00:28:00.240 But the reason that we have to change their names in the first place is because if they
00:28:01.240 get put into our community, we find out about it, most white people will call them out.
00:28:05.240 We do.
00:28:06.240 You do. 0.80
00:28:07.240 I think the Muslims need to own it and say, call out the grooming gang things a little 1.00
00:28:10.240 bit more. 1.00
00:28:11.240 Okay, all the mosques, look, Imams have come out, we've come out and condemned them, the key here is this though, when you call them Muslim, they are more in line with your worldview than ours, why? 1.00
00:28:23.240 They take drugs, they drink alcohol, they have sex aside in marriage, they go clubs, we as Muslims, it is not permissible for me to drink, I'm not allowed to shake a female's hand, if this woman said to me, can I shake her hand, I'll say no with my religion as a saying. 1.00
00:28:36.240 so how come how am i going to abuse a white woman or a girl or whatever when i'm not even 0.98
00:28:41.280 allowed to touch her hand so the clear that we as muslims if they were living under the sharia 0.97
00:28:45.920 they will be executed in a public square yeah we know how to deal with our problem but the thing 0.60
00:28:50.240 is this you that i want to you no no no no i'm not i'm kurdish from turkey okay so the issue is this
00:28:56.640 we can't even say that for example it's a pakistan issue it's not asian
00:28:59.520 Inherently with the gangs when it's come out, it is 85 to 90 percent.
00:29:02.520 Look, look, look, no, no, no, we need to look at, if you look at those numbers, that was done by Quilliam.
00:29:05.520 They looked at specific cases and specific years, and they, this is very dangerous.
00:29:09.520 They, what they're doing is they are inflating these numbers, and that's the reason why, I understand you, if you're an Englishman, you have genuine concerns.
00:29:15.520 And I don't want to put you in this category.
00:29:17.520 Oh, can I be real? I grew up in the hood.
00:29:19.520 I grew up in the hood.
00:29:20.520 When we were growing up younger, right?
00:29:22.520 Me too, come on.
00:29:23.520 And some of the stuff that we've got up to when we were younger, there were certain things that kept you safe. 1.00
00:29:28.520 Now, the racism went out the window with that, we used to say to our white girl mates, be careful around some of the Pakistanis lads, because they seem to be a bit dodgy, they're coming up in cars, trying to pick up the younger girls, so when all this came out with that, me and my mate were like... 1.00
00:29:41.840 Okay, so what we say is, the actions of these people, I don't believe they should be in prisons with hotbed, hot water and hot food, because that, look, I believe they should be dealt in a severe way, however, if you notice, what they're doing is they are going for vulnerable girls, 1.00
00:29:58.520 Now, yes, yes, yes. So the key here is that we should protect our daughters. And when I say our daughters, I'm not talking about Muslim or irrelevant. That's why Islam has protocols. We don't believe in dating before marriage. We don't believe in going and having a drink here and there.
00:30:15.940 Exactly. Well, that's the reason why we believe these things need to be fixed, because they're coming from homes that the parents are drunkard, they don't give a damn about the girl. What do you mean? And then you've got these scums who are taking advantage of these innocent young girls. We're seeing as a society, if we fix from top below, alcohol. I'm so sorry, it's a disease. 0.95
00:30:34.980 I agree. 1.00
00:30:35.980 And now if we look at who own these industries, are the Zionists, Pornhub, Pornhub, OnlyFans, 0.99
00:30:43.980 OnlyFans, all these industries, they are making your youth more degenerate, and you've got 0.97
00:30:48.980 this flipping clown here who's being funded by them, to make us have a civil war. 0.88
00:30:51.980 But this is where, so we restore Britain, the party that I'm going to vote for, that 0.96
00:30:55.980 I'm not going for, they are a lot more going back down to the traditional side and getting 0.98
00:30:59.980 I'd rather live under Christian rule than the left 0.62
00:31:05.980 Yeah yeah yeah
00:31:06.980 With all due respect, they're there and I'll be honest with them
00:31:08.980 Well actually, Islam is quite conservative in religion
00:31:10.980 Yes, yes
00:31:11.980 In reality, compared to right wing side, they're quite similar
00:31:14.980 I believe, look look, I believe the left is far dangerous to stand than left right
00:31:18.980 Yeah yeah yeah
00:31:19.980 The right, I don't know, I'm not gonna leave you a right 1.00
00:31:21.980 The right wants my body, they wanna kill me 0.98
00:31:24.980 The left wants my soul 0.99
00:31:25.980 I don't think that's necessary
00:31:27.980 when it comes down to
00:31:29.380 he wants a civil war
00:31:30.220 he wants people to
00:31:31.240 on the streets
00:31:31.740 while he has a private jet
00:31:32.800 with his son
00:31:33.260 us fighting each other
00:31:34.580 and the reason why I'm doing this
00:31:35.660 is because we should not
00:31:36.400 fight each other
00:31:36.820 you have as a
00:31:38.040 you as Englishman
00:31:39.220 have every right
00:31:40.120 to have concerns 1.00
00:31:40.940 about immigration 1.00
00:31:41.760 I do
00:31:42.980 because that can affect me
00:31:44.500 yes
00:31:45.120 I'll be honest with you
00:31:45.880 look
00:31:46.660 look
00:31:48.100 it can affect me
00:31:49.140 because at the end of the day
00:31:49.960 look I had a specific
00:31:51.180 instance with me
00:31:51.840 and my partner was out
00:31:52.680 and there was a person
00:31:53.740 who seemed like a migrant
00:31:55.160 yes
00:31:55.780 etc
00:31:56.680 he was
00:31:57.160 getting a little bit you know yeah so so that affects me he doesn't pick and say oh there's 0.94
00:32:02.540 another foreigner it's it's what he's intoxicated with and you get it and and yeah so i do agree
00:32:07.380 with you and i don't i don't want to put you in that category i believe you have a right and i 0.90
00:32:10.560 believe the gen genuine general british public have a concern and we have to talk about that
00:32:15.720 because the more we put it under the cup it's thinking and as muslims we need to come out and
00:32:19.540 say okay there are concerns and we need to deal with concern with statistics and facts yeah not
00:32:23.320 White man slots in cocaine with Zionist money.
00:32:25.320 I catch you. 0.98
00:32:26.320 And also, come and not make white man snap out.
00:32:29.320 Because white man, if you look into history,
00:32:31.320 when white man snapped out, when the girl goes, 0.99
00:32:33.320 we're dangerous people.
00:32:34.320 Yeah, yeah, you don't want to mess with them, trust me.
00:32:36.320 It's cold in his eyes.
00:32:37.320 Take the world over.
00:32:38.320 Have a good day.
00:32:39.320 Yes, yes, thank you.
00:32:40.320 Thank you.
00:32:41.320 Thank you.
00:32:42.320 Thank you.
00:32:43.320 No, no, I'm in London, Leicester Square.
00:32:46.320 Yeah, yeah.
00:32:47.320 If you want to come through.
00:32:48.320 I'm there most of the time.
00:32:49.320 Have a good day.
00:32:50.320 Thank you, thank you.
00:32:51.320 Well, there you go.
00:32:52.320 That was a nice discussion.
00:32:53.760 By the time we finish the conversation,
00:32:54.820 everyone's going home.
00:32:56.540 Everyone's going home.
00:32:57.100 It's a chat like that that's missing.
00:32:59.160 It's a chat like that that's missing.
00:33:01.440 I think we need to have these discussions.
00:33:03.860 Yeah, exactly.
00:33:04.980 Like, we've got on either side
00:33:06.180 and people are just going,
00:33:07.080 and actually, there's no education.
00:33:09.780 Yeah, exactly.
00:33:10.360 I think it's the rich
00:33:12.280 that's just trying to get people to fight.
00:33:13.680 Yeah, it's divisive.
00:33:14.420 It's like Elon Musk.
00:33:15.740 We've got to realise that.
00:33:16.420 It's really frustrating.
00:33:17.200 Yeah.
00:33:18.560 I mean, that's what we need more of.
00:33:20.440 because you know if people actually feel listened to then maybe they're receptive to actually hearing it
00:33:24.680 it's true it's true it's just we're listening we're listening to the wrong people yeah and sadly
00:33:29.480 that's it you know when you have people like sony robinson who's doing his hate yeah sorry sorry
00:33:33.080 yeah it's right it is it is it is we need to we need to have a dialogue yes