Ali Dawah - November 21, 2020
DAWAH TO TRANSHIJABI? - RIGHT OR WRONG?
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Summary
Jummah Kutbahayah Is it wrong to be gay? What does this mean in the world of Islam ? And is it wrong for us to be harsh towards someone who is carrying out the act of homosexuality?
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hijab interviewing trans hijabi was he right was he wrong from a juvenile when
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my clothes had holes in the and my afro was picky to the 90s
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Moschino and Versace no laces in Arachis new millennium
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assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends
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welcome back to my channel before I start I want to praise Allah
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the most merciful the most trust or praise His glory and gratitude belong to
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him so brothers and sisters I want to get straight into it hijab interviewing
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trans hijabi was he right was he wrong we're going to discuss this inshallah
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because there's some there was a YouTube made on video a YouTube video made there
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was tweets I'm going to discuss all of this from different brothers etc and I
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don't believe they're coming from a place of harm or evil etc and I'm good with the
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brothers you know but we just want to discuss so we can have a common
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understanding most of the time these things happen because of miscommunication
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misunderstanding and when you talk you're like ah I understand so and I had a
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telephone discussion as well with Ustad Farid may Allah bless him inshallah we had a
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nice discussion maybe we had some agree agree to disagree moments but we we said
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look I understand we understand both each other etc we talk about brothers now a
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couple of um years ago me and Musa had now went to Birmingham we was invited by a sister to go to
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the house uh obviously her mum was present uh dad wasn't there and that that her brother was gay he
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he said that he's homosexual and he had a boyfriend so obviously they didn't know what to do the mom's
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crying obviously he's upset um and um the daughter's upset because seeing her mum upset and that upset us all
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so we wanted to speak to him he came down when he saw us he ran back out ran back up now he left the
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world of Islam now the question is this now we might see the act of homosexuality as disgusting we
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might say you know what is absolutely wrong the question is the following just because you see
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something to be wrong to be disgusting to be evil to be a sin to be whatever does that mean that the
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person who's carrying out the act that we start being evil to them and harsh towards them and show our
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discourse would that work we need to have wisdom allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says in the quran that
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indeed if he was harsh with them they would have run away from you so allah saying don't be harsh
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when allah said musa alayhi salam to pharaon who claimed to be a god when allah told the prophet
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muhammad peace be upon him if he was harsh with who the quraish who are committing shirk billion times
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worse than homosexuality and homosexuality is wrong as well let's not say oh that's better it's wrong
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as well islamically we believe this to be wrong now in these instances two prophets one's been ordered
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to be speak you know in a nice tone to the mushriks and one has been sent to somebody who claims to be
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god one is worshipping idols one is claiming to be god to be an ilah and musa alayhi salam has been
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told to go and speak to him with words of wisdom and gentleness yes musa alayhi salam became a bit
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firm after realizing what he dealt with but that is not what we're seeing brothers and sisters
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so acknowledging that we need to understand that that is we our dawah is not limited to
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okay you can only give dawah to the mu'mins you know like these um uh super uh salafi uh uh
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miscar khawarij minded yeah their attitude towards the muslims only you give dawah only to the people
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close to you yeah i mean yeah yeah i hope bida this time you don't go near them etc this ajib weird
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uh thinking process so the question is this was it right or was it wrong for hijab let's get straight
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into it now brothers and sisters hijab is a brother to me it's close i talk to him yeah we talk to
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regular we do something we'll train together we talk we go eat together etc i have a principle in life
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if i have turned my back against certain family members because of islam um because of the truth
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of the hack i'm not going to hide that hack because somebody's my friend and if if i've done it with
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family members in the context where not that i've turned my back but like you know said to him this
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is wrong and i've been boycotted or etc whatever stuff i've been going through i don't care i want
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to make something great i used to work with a brother you guys know yeah and i have nothing but love
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for the brother yeah because i want to make that kind of mention this for a purpose
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and me ustad adnan rashid and many brothers for years advised the brother and advised in private
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and private and private why because it's important for us to advise in private it's very important
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and many years we tried to until we realized the damage that's been caused to the dawah
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and the youth and even certain actions causing certain people to leave islam
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was too much for us to turn a blind eye and i had a lot to lose we got besides losing a close
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brother and friendship and being kind of boycotted maybe they didn't mean to or whatever that's how i
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felt and there was other things that i lost which i can't get into yeah and it was at stake but i didn't
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care and i don't care because if it's the hack i don't care if you're my dad my granddad my great
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granddad the hack is the hack yeah speak the truth even if it's against yourself allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
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tells us so i want to make something clear muhammad hijab i'm not a yes man if i was a yes man i would
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have stayed with certain other brothers or worked with certain other individuals i'm not a yes man
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muhammad hijab if he's wrong i'll tell him he's wrong i'll like i will tell him i don't care if hijab
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gets angry or upset or that i don't care i want to make that clear i don't like tiptoe around hijab
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oh brother if he's wrong i will come and tell him you're wrong and there's been times where i've
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told him i'm sorry i mean you're wrong here you're absolutely wrong so the thing is and he's the same
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attitude with me yeah that's how we are but in this very instance i don't find what was wrong
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i don't understand a certain brother is tweeting twitter and he's making it seem like we are these
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american apologetics which we're like yeah homosexuals transgender yeah we love you nice just because
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hijab is polite to somebody how does that i don't get it so you can't be polite now you can't be
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reasonable you're talking to a 17 year old person who's become a transgender what do you want us to
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do insult him shut up you're discussing your evil you're finished you're going to the fire
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what do you want us to say that way it's done with wisdom and hikmah and because hijab is speaking
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to him to a certain tone he becomes wrong now oh you could you should have you should have been
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more harsh why can we not speak with respect in a civilized manner to someone and hijab after he
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did this discussion the very same person made a tweet saying i look stupid i wish i never went on
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there well i think that was the point of what hijab was doing in the context of yes he wanted to speak
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to him i don't think he wanted to make him look stupid but he wanted to show some contradicting
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statements so if hijab is doing that brothers and sisters what i'm trying to understand is the
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following i learned a lot from that the way hijab conducted himself the arguments that he used and
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so many people in the comment section were saying at least you're equipped with it you can't just brush
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it under the carpet just because it looks ir to you and ir doesn't mean that it is not something that
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should be addressed yeah you might not stomach it and not like it well okay that doesn't mean we have
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to stop our dawah just because you seem something ajib and oh in our country we never saw sorry we're
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not in your country yeah i mean we can't come and make it seem like someone's doing wrong because it
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looks wrong to you oh why are you speaking like imagine i'm speaking to someone who has intimacy with
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a piano but i'm not going to be like okay we don't talk to him yeah i just totally disregard him
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now regarding okay giving him platform i believe when the guy didn't have no shubhat he was not a threat
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he has no platform let's be real the guy doesn't have a platform so giving him a platform like what
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do we mean like if there is somebody who has doubts shubhat the guy is throwing doubt and you're
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giving a platform we understand this is somebody who's chose to change the agenda and it's all
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more emotional and this is how i feel and this is you can see that from his statements how is that
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person a threat i don't understand how was that person a threat no now if your issue is with the style
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of dawah but i'm so sorry you can't have a go at somebody publicly in the dawah scene you're going
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public because of his style oh you should have been more harsh you should not have him on there
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that's your opinion was it haram for him to have him on there was it haram no so then was it haram
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for him to speak to him in a decent way while dealing with his arguments no so then it's like me
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i'm going to go and say oh you i don't like your style of dawah it's it's not fair now another
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thing for example i watched um uh brother sajid's youtube as well um and i know he's coming from a
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place of and it's like a good place but one thing i disagreed was like yes hijab has made mistakes
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yeah with the whole uh yes hard interview et cetera mistake in the context of what we know
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the quran is preserved well we have no doubt somebody who's not qualified in the field
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like um he's not qualified that's not his area it's not his expertise yeah i can be an expert in
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uh i can i can be uh you know construction this doesn't mean i'm going to be an expert in the
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field of uh i don't know thermodynamics or whatever it might be yeah okay just because you have a field
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expertise here doesn't mean you're an expert everywhere so that was wrong in the context of i would say
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that specific thing should have not been done but hijab is interviewing people and he is kind of
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debunking their show behind and he's had different people in this podcast he's interviewing them yeah
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now to equate that and see a few mistakes for example certain things that he made and then add
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this into it is not fair because what you're doing is saying okay hijab was wrong here hijab was also
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wrong here and this trans hijabi thing it looks ill to me and it's wrong to me therefore
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add this to the list that's not fair that's not fair you might be writing the first and the second
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you can say that it was wrong here you should not have done that okay we understand you let's
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advise the brother in private is hijab that much of a liability no it's not so to go out doing a
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public video i believe it was unfair it was wrong and especially with people that we know you got my
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number brother call me let's talk it's not fair and then to add this trans hijabi thing which nothing
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was done haram and he was he dealt with it that so much so the very guy himself admitted that
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i was wrong you know i looked stupid so to me i don't understand why is that fair to now add that
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to the list and be like oh see hijab did it again that's not fair that's not fair to say oh hijab did
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it again because he didn't do it again so and i love these words for the sake of allah all of them
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yeah all of the mentions that i mentioned well i i have nothing but love but i'm seeing going out
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public what it does is it causes some kind of disunity now this disunity doesn't mean like you know
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some people say we're ikhwani muslimin yeah we work with everybody but if i was working with
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everybody i would not stop working with certain brothers yeah that debunk the very claim that i
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stop working with certain brothers shows that i'm not ikhwani i don't work with everybody yeah
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the point is this unnecessary disunity because a lot of people are saying come on was this needed
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yeah and how does it look at outside to the enemies of islam how does it do because now you're
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doing you're bringing back old things that were done and you're bringing it and adding this on top
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like hijab did something wrong with the issue of trans hijab you have a right to disagree and say
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i would have not you would have not or you would have have a different tone with them does not make
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hijab wrong so please brothers when like what i'm just saying is when we're doing these things look
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you might you have a right to disagree hundred percent i'm not saying you guys don't you dare no
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please contact me or whoever i'm just saying hijab aki that was wrong you know maybe you should not
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have done that let's discuss let's talk we're open we're not look we are open we make mistakes i've made
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mistakes people have advised me in private yeah i've changed those like things that i've seen
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but for people close to me nothing hurts me more in the context of if i'm doing outright battle
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but go out and refute me but if i'm not doing something that's outright battle then the thing
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is you've got my number you can contact me well like a lot of people call me all kinds of stuff
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yeah like it's jahil this that i've been called you know all kinds of hadiths been applied to me
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ali dawah ali needs dawah etc while i go through one and comes at other but people that are close
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to me i'm like brother you got my number for example yeah you could call me let's talk let's
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discuss you might be right you might have a point but to bring this and we're talking about hikmah
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and wisdom and then we're and then we're bringing it to the public but it doesn't need to be there
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because hijab is not a liability with certain context he's not so brothers and sisters what i'm just
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seeing is in a nutshell i believe what hijab did was right it's a growing problem
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this whole transgender thing is a growing massive problem that had to be dealt with brothers and
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sisters uh so that's the reason why i'm saying if you want us to just dig under the carpet until
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it starts to stink and smell and then we're like okay let's talk about it now well we've got a lot
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of poo to clean up now so the thing is brothers and sisters i'm just seeing uh and like i said before
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like brother sajid and brother farid and the rest like all i'm saying is look we know you're coming
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from a place of good but please talk to us because it doesn't show this unity and some issues going on
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etc with it's unneeded well like to an issue like this hijab has had discussions in the park with
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trans hijabis i mean transgender he spoke to them what's the difference he spoke to these people and
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he's debunked their points all he's done is the same thing with a muslim trans hijabi yeah okay and
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so what we're just saying is is to reach out to these people when we're doing the dawah and also
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to make them understand so they don't feel excommunicated and be like okay i'm gay trans
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jada this is how i'm going to be treated i'm leaving the fold of islam is that good should we
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get them to leave islam as well if we can keep them in the fold of islam we will and for people
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thinking no you have to be harsh it's better i'm so sorry bring me evidence from the quran and the sunnah
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that it is haram for us to dialogue with them um to talk to them in a decent manner yeah in a decent
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manner if we please bring me evidence yeah okay in a decent manner and um that it's that it's haram
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for us to have to stay as a muslim even though they're committing a major sin please if not then
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these issues in the native will tackle yeah i believe if hijab came and said to me i'm gonna i'm
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gonna finish off this if hijab came and said to me i'm gonna interview a guy who has intimacy with an
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animal with a dog yeah i would say look personally is it a growing problem nah not really i better not
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touch but if it's a growing problem where you're having a massive mass of people having intimacy
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with animals yeah i'm like well talk and debunking bro yeah do you get what i'm trying to say so the
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the thing is yes one thing is that we need it's important for us to speak to our elders as well
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i hope i've covered everything brothers and sisters and i think it's let's be fair inshallah in that
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context and i'm not saying brothers are not i know they come from a place of good
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but please with this stuff it should be out the public there's a lot of stuff that i disagree with
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hijab i speak to in private all the time i will carry on speaking the hijab in private if i believe
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he's done something wrong and the same with him if he believes i'm done something wrong till the point
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where i believe or he believes i'm a liability ali dawah is an outright misguided individual who needs
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to be publicly brothers and sisters this person is wrong ali dawah is wrong he's wrong but there's
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no such case there's no such case so inshallah let's assume the best thing that our brothers
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let's understand this is where we was coming from hope you guys understand because we we deal with it
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on a ground level we see the disruption it causes and these people are leaving islam because they're
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feeling unwanted that shouldn't be the case i'm so sorry if our kindness is going to keep them in islam
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while we speak the hack not yeah transgender yes great brilliant nobody said that so that's it
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brothers and sisters uh till next time assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh please do comment in the
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section below and give me your feedback if i'm wrong i might be wrong just i'm open to it uh