Ali Dawah - November 26, 2018


DINA TOKIO CROSSED THE LINE - SID & DINA


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

221.73518

Word Count

3,659

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the recent controversy surrounding the hijab worn by one of our sisters, Dina Tokyo, and her decision to take the hijab off, and the reaction of her brothers and sisters.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends
00:00:04.200 I hope you guys are doing well welcome to this video we're going to get straight into it we're
00:00:07.020 not going to waste time inshaAllah we are in Ghana in Africa we've come here with human
00:00:11.400 relief foundation because in Ramadan we raised some funds and alhamdulillah we went to a few
00:00:15.460 villages building mechanical water wells and inshaAllah we have a future project in 2019
00:00:19.920 to build a school masjid playground for the kids and a water well in a village that doesn't have
00:00:24.440 these resources that is something separate inshaAllah so that's one of the reasons we're
00:00:27.860 sitting on the floor alhamdulillah we'll put the link on the bottom of this video we will inshaAllah
00:00:30.640 we'll put it as well inshaAllah because we do want we're going to come to inshaAllah at the end of
00:00:34.040 the video so why we sat on the floor what's this video about yeah um so now as far as I know hijab
00:00:40.360 you got some messages yesterday a bombardment of messages yeah i got bombardment of messages i was
00:00:44.640 thinking it was usually our wi-fi doesn't work in Ghana a lot of the time yeah as i put it on i've
00:00:49.660 got my messages a lot of them were messages from uh dino tokyo's followers or fans or something like
00:00:55.080 that and they were sending me this article that just went up that she promoted which was an article
00:01:00.540 which said that um muslim women should be allowed to marry non-muslim men because of the equality
00:01:08.560 premise yeah okay so she she shared this she shared this she put on her website okay it was this written
00:01:14.360 by her it was written by someone else so i don't know who it was written by okay um that's where we
00:01:19.700 had the discussion you kind of checked up yeah so basically then i started getting a bombardment
00:01:23.080 of messages and i was quite surprised that a lot of sisters were sending me these messages so i was
00:01:26.160 thinking generally it's the brothers who act a bit nosy but it was actually sisters who were very
00:01:29.740 concerned yeah so i looked at it and i was a bit like i was a bit upset let me tell you why i was
00:01:34.900 upset because if you guys remember from last year the sister dino tokyo done a video where she said
00:01:40.200 that she shrugs with her hijab she hates wearing it but she wears it for the sake of allah me and
00:01:44.560 musa done a video which you can see on the screen and we we try to encourage her yeah we we try to
00:01:48.800 encourage her sister alhamdulillah you know you acknowledge that it's hard but for the sake of allah
00:01:52.320 you're wearing it we try to encourage her you know we've always tried to assume the best we
00:01:55.940 haven't been like the people who refuse who is harsh who says all kinds of stuff we never went
00:02:00.340 down that route you know and we don't want to we did that after that we say you know we assume the
00:02:05.000 best in our sister no problem then sister dino tokyo came and said that she's taking the hijab off even
00:02:09.760 though she said that we still said we assume the best in our sister she might be going through
00:02:13.180 something she just gave birth postnatal depression whatever it may be we assume the best in her
00:02:18.880 we assume the best in her so then afterwards then we did a video where we note we watched a
00:02:25.580 video of dino tokyo and her husband sid where in this video we caught our attention that sid was saying
00:02:32.160 very modest stuff very stuff that you wouldn't and dino was correcting him and we kind of had to go
00:02:37.420 at sid a bit by advising him and saying look your wife is going through something and you're turning
00:02:42.360 this into a joke and you're saying inappropriate things that she's keep correcting you on even then we
00:02:47.240 assumed the best in her and had advised sid now it's come to the point where we're thinking to
00:02:52.700 ourselves look we've assumed the best once we've assumed the best twice we've assumed the best three
00:02:56.060 times we've been kinder we're still kind we're not there's not an excuse to tell you in this video
00:03:00.100 we're not going to be kind but i think a line has been crossed and now it's unfair because it's unfair
00:03:06.240 on her followers it's unfair of the naive youngsters muslim youth who are watching her and now with she's
00:03:13.600 coming up with this thing where she's shared it from another sister saying oh um why can't a muslim
00:03:20.800 woman marry non-muslim men this is a line which has been crossed let me tell you something i want to
00:03:25.700 make it categorically clear i don't care what dino tokyo does i don't actually care one bit if she
00:03:31.220 decides to take off her head scarf if she decides to put on a head scarf or she decides to walk in the
00:03:36.780 street naked or if she decides to walk in the street like you know wearing a suit to me that's her
00:03:41.660 personal choice that's her relationship with god etc now the reason why i was quite upset and this i'm
00:03:47.340 not gonna lie to you this this move of hers actually really disappointed me from her yeah even though i
00:03:52.920 don't know who she is too much but i've been made aware of in recent times the reason why this really
00:03:58.160 disappointed me is because actually now she's making a theological case right or she's promoting
00:04:02.760 someone who's made a theological philosophical case so it's different between you doing something and
00:04:07.720 you believing in something and disseminating something and you're changing a narrative so
00:04:11.380 for me the line that's being crossed is like oh we all commit sins forget about it dino tokyo
00:04:16.940 she could be on the day of judgment you know i'm saying she goes to heaven and we go to the hellfire
00:04:20.980 yeah we could be doing more showing off than she does because at the end of the day you know i'm
00:04:24.720 saying we're doing dawah which means that we're trying to promote islam so all of that could be in
00:04:29.760 vain where she's not even doing dawah she's not she's never claimed to be a religious authority until now
00:04:33.700 yeah where she's actually now transmitting or she's promoting yeah a theological thing so let's
00:04:39.720 let's get to the crux of the matter because i don't want to waste time talking about dino tokyo i'm not
00:04:43.340 not to be rude to her but i i'm more i'm more concerned in this video here with what she actually
00:04:50.720 trying to say now so the the article i read it in this entirety from beginning to end was and it was an
00:04:58.160 article that was trying to legitimize women in islam marrying uh non-muslim men first and foremost
00:05:05.180 we have to make it very clear the ruling in islam is that even a man is not allowed to generally
00:05:09.500 speaking marry a non-muslim woman the only exception to that is in surah al-ma'idah in the beginning of
00:05:15.960 chapter 5 of the quran where it says that a man can a man can marry a jew or christian yeah a jew or
00:05:23.060 christian so that's the exception and even with that exception there are exceptions of that there
00:05:28.280 are conditions that have to be met which i think were alluded to in the article that she put forward
00:05:32.020 so is one of those things chastity the woman has to be a practicing christian a true christian so if
00:05:38.400 you go for example in britain where we live we know that a lot of women that say that they're christian
00:05:42.220 are not really christian so would they be eligible for marriage no they wouldn't yeah so there's so many
00:05:47.520 conditions that have to be met uh the mahar has to be paid all those things has to be put in place
00:05:51.720 a lot of scholars now have said it's not permissible even in the west for muslim men even if those
00:05:56.920 conditions are met to marry a christian or jewish woman for the messa that could create it could
00:06:02.080 create so for example if children are born in that family they're more likely to be so like for the
00:06:07.700 religion so even there's so many conditions let's suppose they can let's suppose they can i'm just
00:06:12.280 saying that is let's put that let's put the hukum in front of everyone so they can see that it's not a
00:06:17.600 simple thing number one the article argued that a woman can marry a non-muslim man now this has never
00:06:24.160 been said by anyone in islam and it's refuted by the quran there's two parts of the quran i want to
00:06:28.100 kind of mention here there's one in surah al-baqarah where it says that and don't let yeah the
00:06:34.620 disbelieve the believing women marry the uh basically the mushrikeen hata yu'minu
00:06:41.740 and he says that a slave a muslim slave is better than a non-muslim uh person in marriage even if
00:06:53.280 the person who's not muslim likes you this has not been abrogated as it relates to women the only
00:06:57.800 uh tahsis or uh what do you call it specification that's been made in regards to men which we
00:07:03.040 already discussed is mentioned in surah al-ma'idah so you can marry jews and christian that's one
00:07:07.720 number two in surah it says don't bring them back because there were more women that came
00:07:12.860 yeah from uh from mecca to medina who left them yeah so it says don't let them go back to their
00:07:18.780 to the men there because they're not halal for them and they're not they are not halal for them
00:07:26.440 and they're not for halal for them in other words there's clear injunctions in the quranic discourse
00:07:30.720 yeah that woman muslim woman is not allowed to marry anything but a muslim man for you to say
00:07:36.920 actually the equality premise overrides this is kufr it is kufr it is disbelief
00:07:43.100 no no no hold on let's be very clear this is kufr it's disbelief yeah so for someone to say
00:07:48.900 something like that it is disbelief now it does not mean that if someone does disbelief yes that
00:07:55.420 they become a disbeliever because we as muslims believe in the concept of that you have an excuse
00:08:02.400 with ignorance yeah so we would never say that dina tokyo or her husband or the sister who actually
00:08:09.080 wrote this article yeah look that's that's discussable that's arguable i haven't i haven't
00:08:12.880 seen what she believes anywhere else but i'm not saying dina tokyo or her husband are kufr we're not
00:08:18.620 saying that yeah but theoretically there's a difference between ta'seel al-hukum and tenzeel
00:08:24.200 al-hukum the actual theoretical stance of it islamically speaking is kufr just like someone
00:08:30.700 says that there's no five prayers a day so there's no five prayers a day in islam they have committed
00:08:34.960 kufr now they have to have iqamat al-hujjah which is what we're doing right now let's not be around
00:08:39.260 the bush what we're doing is we're hoping that this message gets to dina it's called iqamat al-hujjah
00:08:44.520 we've given her the verses in the quran there is no nesk there's no abrogation of those and there
00:08:49.520 is no scholar that has ever said what she's said and now she's given this girl who to be honest
00:08:53.960 with you has an untrained hand in philosophy theology and religion to make up a little blog
00:09:00.540 and i spoke to this very sister i messaged her because just to make the matters clear i spoke
00:09:06.000 to and i said sister the sister that wrote the article yeah okay i said do you have any evidence
00:09:10.680 from the quran and the sunnah of what you're saying she said no she's because this is my
00:09:14.380 subjective opinions yeah and i've got the message i can show i'm not i'm not gonna do that though yeah
00:09:18.180 and this sister had a very dangerous post where she's got two men kissing yeah and she's saying
00:09:24.160 basically that um i support lgbt whatever it is um love is love etc now she said that and saying like
00:09:31.060 she supports the act of homosexuality yes okay yes that's kufr as well yes it's very dangerous yeah
00:09:36.360 now we're not saying she was like oh what do you want me to do be harsh on the of the people
00:09:40.540 and said i never asked you to do that we never said go and be harsh we're seeing at least hold
00:09:44.680 the principle that you hate it in your heart the sin the sin yeah so i spoke to her and yeah
00:09:50.360 sadly she had very ill manners she was talking that she has a problem with a certain youtuber
00:09:53.960 and she was complaining of his ill manners and she goes i hate him yeah i said okay you hate him but
00:09:59.380 you're you're you're you're the way you're treating the way she was talking she's mocking me
00:10:03.440 etc i excused her yeah she has no evidence nothing it was just based on this is how she's not a
00:10:09.280 special is she a specialist no has she got qualifications at theology at all so why is
00:10:12.940 oh here's the thing though let's ali i don't understand why someone like dina tokyo yeah who
00:10:18.580 i would have thought is quite an educated person yeah because i've heard that she's an educated
00:10:22.060 person she she's an educated person she's a social influencer why is she sharing a blog or a vlog
00:10:28.280 or whatever it may have been it's a blog isn't it because it's written i'm not sure if she did
00:10:31.120 anything videographic on that yeah but why is she sharing that blog yeah with someone who's a
00:10:35.860 non-specialist yeah non-theologian non-scholar unless you agree with it no no no obviously she
00:10:42.440 agrees with me yeah totally that's that's no doubt she's taking it down now no no i would have thought
00:10:46.000 that she would have consulted some kind of some kind of scholarly resources here and that's the
00:10:50.400 thing man to be honest with you i'm going to be straightforward with you people like dina tokyo
00:10:54.400 whose claim to fame was what was it like hijab tutorials and makeup and these things
00:10:59.120 please ladies and gentlemen yeah and this goes for us as well everyone must know their lane yeah if
00:11:05.660 someone comes out as a sport critic don't expect from that sport critic to be able to guide you in
00:11:10.820 matters to do with religion or theology or philosophy or whatever yeah just because you have a following
00:11:15.760 it doesn't mean you have to give your opinions on everything that's as simple as that and don't don't
00:11:19.660 push your opinion especially if it's completely unjustified from a from a theological perspective
00:11:24.880 on the people yeah we're not going to accept that and you know what you're making was haram
00:11:28.440 and this is i'm very thankful that you brought that up because this is very thank you for bringing
00:11:32.280 that up yeah this issue of istihlal is is what makes kufr because why is it kufr yeah so someone
00:11:38.000 might ask you how why is it disbelief the quran it says in chapter number nine verse number 31
00:11:43.860 about the jews and the christians yeah it says they took their priests and the rabbis as gods
00:11:53.040 beside god now yeah adi ibn hatim who's one of the sahaba who became muslim he was exactly a christian
00:11:58.880 before he came to him the prophet he said how am i doing this he goes christians are not actually
00:12:03.060 taking their priests and their rabbis as god and jews are not taking their rabbis as god he said
00:12:06.800 did they not make halal while allah make haram yes or did not allah make haram did they not make
00:12:12.920 haram while allah made halal so this is called istihlal yeah basically when you know there's a
00:12:17.220 hukum there's a ruling and then you go against that ruling even though the ruling is very very clear
00:12:22.340 there is no room for interpretation in that particular ruling there are some rulings let's be frank that
00:12:27.380 there is room for interpretation there is scope for interpretation that has to be done by a qualified
00:12:31.840 person yeah no problem but here we're talking about some opinion that can never ever be had because
00:12:36.020 there's no way the text can justify it yeah okay you've got one minute 40 seconds all right so let
00:12:40.540 me just finish on by saying yeah this is why it's kofa we have to the thing is look i want to make one
00:12:45.020 final point because one of the things that the article writer wrote she wrote that we through reason
00:12:51.020 yeah through reason we we we can accept and reject laws basically is what she was saying this is by the
00:12:57.120 way look people need to understand the limits of reason from a philosophical perspective yeah the the limits
00:13:03.820 of reason are we use our reason to give certain people's authority for example i'll give you a
00:13:08.720 very clear example we we use our reason to go to the doctor we then ask the doctor to help us
00:13:13.940 understand what our problems are by giving them our for example our symptoms and then they give us
00:13:19.100 prescriptions yeah so we use our reason to go to the doctor we don't use our reason to know what the
00:13:25.240 doctor is going to prescribe for us yeah likewise we use our reason to arrive at islam yeah but we
00:13:30.400 don't use our reason to dictate or to reject the laws of islam exactly because that is the equivalent
00:13:35.960 of you saying i know more than the lawmaker and the prescribed thing the doctor gives you might not
00:13:40.060 make sense to you there and then exactly but that just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't
00:13:43.920 mean there is no wisdom behind it we say allah has a higher method because a doctor can make a
00:13:48.400 mistake but the all knowledgeable one can't make a mistake okay let me finish off by saying this then
00:13:52.280 i say look i think it's high time since since deena tokyo and her husband are starting to make
00:13:56.720 religious arguments here and the elephant in the room seems to be conservative islam orthodox islam
00:14:02.380 traditionalist islam scripturalist islam which we kind of you can say on a popular level represent
00:14:08.940 i invite both deena tokyo and sid to a public conversation where we can flesh out these matters
00:14:15.700 yeah talk about them publicly yeah and look if you don't want to have this conversation then that
00:14:20.360 defies the very premise of reason because you're not happy you're not happy to get your um to your
00:14:25.460 theological and philosophical arguments critiqued exactly we will talk we will talk you won't have
00:14:29.420 a discussion you know the reason why when i was speaking to the sister who wrote this blog
00:14:32.340 she's saying to me oh um are you i was just requesting i go sister you know you shouldn't
00:14:35.780 put this up she goes are you religiously blackmailing me and i was talking to you well are you religious
00:14:40.240 are you um blackmailing us with your post-colonial uh master's orders these are orders that have been
00:14:45.980 given to you and now you're blackmailing us and saying no this is the best way of life i'm very happy you
00:14:50.520 mentioned that the white the white man i'm not talking in general yeah his way of life is good
00:14:54.640 this is what you're doing with with and a sister dina as well you're pushing that in our throats
00:14:59.280 you're and you're blackmailing us and when we come with the religious guidance or advice we're
00:15:03.920 religiously blackmailing exactly so they they would say is intellect intellectual kind of um terrorism
00:15:09.040 that we're talking to them about yeah but you do that every day but here's the thing they don't
00:15:13.200 realize a lot of these people like deena tokyo etc that they're pushing a narrative as well
00:15:17.500 they're pushing as you mentioned correctly yeah they're pushing a european centric ideological
00:15:23.580 narrative of post-enlightenment era and that is a narrative of feminism of because feminism is a
00:15:29.100 western construct you've got 20 seconds and i've got to finish so what we're saying is that look i
00:15:33.060 don't feel like these people here a lot of them they don't know a the theology be the philosophy
00:15:38.000 a the theology of islam or be the philosophy of feminism liberalism etc so let's have that discussion
00:15:42.580 but just to finish off i would say that just one word the quran says once you've made sense of the
00:15:48.980 fact that god is one and that muhammad is the legislator of allah yeah then submit to the law
00:15:55.540 that's it and lastly brothers and sisters anyone that's watching this if you think you're going to
00:15:59.220 go and do a nikah with some dodgy imam on skype wherever if you're a sister if you're going to go
00:16:05.060 and do that your nikah is not valid you're committing so please don't listen to people who are not qualified be
00:16:10.100 me be anyone and inshallah go back to the people of knowledge as we always do may allah bless you
00:16:14.100 guys from ghana before we finish off get that there's going to be link at the bottom we're here
00:16:18.100 in ghana doing works let's use our platform to do good works we should not talk about these matters
00:16:23.060 let's do that the link's going to be at the link below inshallah let's make things happen
00:16:26.500 let's change people's lives in a good way assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh