Ali Dawah - November 26, 2018
DINA TOKIO CROSSED THE LINE - SID & DINA
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the recent controversy surrounding the hijab worn by one of our sisters, Dina Tokyo, and her decision to take the hijab off, and the reaction of her brothers and sisters.
Transcript
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Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends
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I hope you guys are doing well welcome to this video we're going to get straight into it we're
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not going to waste time inshaAllah we are in Ghana in Africa we've come here with human
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relief foundation because in Ramadan we raised some funds and alhamdulillah we went to a few
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villages building mechanical water wells and inshaAllah we have a future project in 2019
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to build a school masjid playground for the kids and a water well in a village that doesn't have
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these resources that is something separate inshaAllah so that's one of the reasons we're
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sitting on the floor alhamdulillah we'll put the link on the bottom of this video we will inshaAllah
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we'll put it as well inshaAllah because we do want we're going to come to inshaAllah at the end of
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the video so why we sat on the floor what's this video about yeah um so now as far as I know hijab
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you got some messages yesterday a bombardment of messages yeah i got bombardment of messages i was
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thinking it was usually our wi-fi doesn't work in Ghana a lot of the time yeah as i put it on i've
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got my messages a lot of them were messages from uh dino tokyo's followers or fans or something like
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that and they were sending me this article that just went up that she promoted which was an article
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which said that um muslim women should be allowed to marry non-muslim men because of the equality
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premise yeah okay so she she shared this she shared this she put on her website okay it was this written
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by her it was written by someone else so i don't know who it was written by okay um that's where we
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had the discussion you kind of checked up yeah so basically then i started getting a bombardment
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of messages and i was quite surprised that a lot of sisters were sending me these messages so i was
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thinking generally it's the brothers who act a bit nosy but it was actually sisters who were very
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concerned yeah so i looked at it and i was a bit like i was a bit upset let me tell you why i was
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upset because if you guys remember from last year the sister dino tokyo done a video where she said
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that she shrugs with her hijab she hates wearing it but she wears it for the sake of allah me and
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musa done a video which you can see on the screen and we we try to encourage her yeah we we try to
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encourage her sister alhamdulillah you know you acknowledge that it's hard but for the sake of allah
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you're wearing it we try to encourage her you know we've always tried to assume the best we
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haven't been like the people who refuse who is harsh who says all kinds of stuff we never went
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down that route you know and we don't want to we did that after that we say you know we assume the
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best in our sister no problem then sister dino tokyo came and said that she's taking the hijab off even
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though she said that we still said we assume the best in our sister she might be going through
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something she just gave birth postnatal depression whatever it may be we assume the best in her
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we assume the best in her so then afterwards then we did a video where we note we watched a
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video of dino tokyo and her husband sid where in this video we caught our attention that sid was saying
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very modest stuff very stuff that you wouldn't and dino was correcting him and we kind of had to go
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at sid a bit by advising him and saying look your wife is going through something and you're turning
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this into a joke and you're saying inappropriate things that she's keep correcting you on even then we
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assumed the best in her and had advised sid now it's come to the point where we're thinking to
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ourselves look we've assumed the best once we've assumed the best twice we've assumed the best three
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times we've been kinder we're still kind we're not there's not an excuse to tell you in this video
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we're not going to be kind but i think a line has been crossed and now it's unfair because it's unfair
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on her followers it's unfair of the naive youngsters muslim youth who are watching her and now with she's
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coming up with this thing where she's shared it from another sister saying oh um why can't a muslim
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woman marry non-muslim men this is a line which has been crossed let me tell you something i want to
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make it categorically clear i don't care what dino tokyo does i don't actually care one bit if she
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decides to take off her head scarf if she decides to put on a head scarf or she decides to walk in the
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street naked or if she decides to walk in the street like you know wearing a suit to me that's her
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personal choice that's her relationship with god etc now the reason why i was quite upset and this i'm
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not gonna lie to you this this move of hers actually really disappointed me from her yeah even though i
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don't know who she is too much but i've been made aware of in recent times the reason why this really
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disappointed me is because actually now she's making a theological case right or she's promoting
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someone who's made a theological philosophical case so it's different between you doing something and
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you believing in something and disseminating something and you're changing a narrative so
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for me the line that's being crossed is like oh we all commit sins forget about it dino tokyo
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she could be on the day of judgment you know i'm saying she goes to heaven and we go to the hellfire
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yeah we could be doing more showing off than she does because at the end of the day you know i'm
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saying we're doing dawah which means that we're trying to promote islam so all of that could be in
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vain where she's not even doing dawah she's not she's never claimed to be a religious authority until now
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yeah where she's actually now transmitting or she's promoting yeah a theological thing so let's
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let's get to the crux of the matter because i don't want to waste time talking about dino tokyo i'm not
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not to be rude to her but i i'm more i'm more concerned in this video here with what she actually
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trying to say now so the the article i read it in this entirety from beginning to end was and it was an
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article that was trying to legitimize women in islam marrying uh non-muslim men first and foremost
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we have to make it very clear the ruling in islam is that even a man is not allowed to generally
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speaking marry a non-muslim woman the only exception to that is in surah al-ma'idah in the beginning of
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chapter 5 of the quran where it says that a man can a man can marry a jew or christian yeah a jew or
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christian so that's the exception and even with that exception there are exceptions of that there
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are conditions that have to be met which i think were alluded to in the article that she put forward
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so is one of those things chastity the woman has to be a practicing christian a true christian so if
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you go for example in britain where we live we know that a lot of women that say that they're christian
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are not really christian so would they be eligible for marriage no they wouldn't yeah so there's so many
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conditions that have to be met uh the mahar has to be paid all those things has to be put in place
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a lot of scholars now have said it's not permissible even in the west for muslim men even if those
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conditions are met to marry a christian or jewish woman for the messa that could create it could
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create so for example if children are born in that family they're more likely to be so like for the
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religion so even there's so many conditions let's suppose they can let's suppose they can i'm just
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saying that is let's put that let's put the hukum in front of everyone so they can see that it's not a
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simple thing number one the article argued that a woman can marry a non-muslim man now this has never
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been said by anyone in islam and it's refuted by the quran there's two parts of the quran i want to
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kind of mention here there's one in surah al-baqarah where it says that and don't let yeah the
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disbelieve the believing women marry the uh basically the mushrikeen hata yu'minu
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and he says that a slave a muslim slave is better than a non-muslim uh person in marriage even if
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the person who's not muslim likes you this has not been abrogated as it relates to women the only
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uh tahsis or uh what do you call it specification that's been made in regards to men which we
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already discussed is mentioned in surah al-ma'idah so you can marry jews and christian that's one
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number two in surah it says don't bring them back because there were more women that came
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yeah from uh from mecca to medina who left them yeah so it says don't let them go back to their
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to the men there because they're not halal for them and they're not they are not halal for them
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and they're not for halal for them in other words there's clear injunctions in the quranic discourse
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yeah that woman muslim woman is not allowed to marry anything but a muslim man for you to say
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actually the equality premise overrides this is kufr it is kufr it is disbelief
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no no no hold on let's be very clear this is kufr it's disbelief yeah so for someone to say
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something like that it is disbelief now it does not mean that if someone does disbelief yes that
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they become a disbeliever because we as muslims believe in the concept of that you have an excuse
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with ignorance yeah so we would never say that dina tokyo or her husband or the sister who actually
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wrote this article yeah look that's that's discussable that's arguable i haven't i haven't
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seen what she believes anywhere else but i'm not saying dina tokyo or her husband are kufr we're not
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saying that yeah but theoretically there's a difference between ta'seel al-hukum and tenzeel
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al-hukum the actual theoretical stance of it islamically speaking is kufr just like someone
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says that there's no five prayers a day so there's no five prayers a day in islam they have committed
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kufr now they have to have iqamat al-hujjah which is what we're doing right now let's not be around
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the bush what we're doing is we're hoping that this message gets to dina it's called iqamat al-hujjah
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we've given her the verses in the quran there is no nesk there's no abrogation of those and there
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is no scholar that has ever said what she's said and now she's given this girl who to be honest
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with you has an untrained hand in philosophy theology and religion to make up a little blog
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and i spoke to this very sister i messaged her because just to make the matters clear i spoke
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to and i said sister the sister that wrote the article yeah okay i said do you have any evidence
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from the quran and the sunnah of what you're saying she said no she's because this is my
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subjective opinions yeah and i've got the message i can show i'm not i'm not gonna do that though yeah
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and this sister had a very dangerous post where she's got two men kissing yeah and she's saying
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basically that um i support lgbt whatever it is um love is love etc now she said that and saying like
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she supports the act of homosexuality yes okay yes that's kufr as well yes it's very dangerous yeah
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now we're not saying she was like oh what do you want me to do be harsh on the of the people
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and said i never asked you to do that we never said go and be harsh we're seeing at least hold
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the principle that you hate it in your heart the sin the sin yeah so i spoke to her and yeah
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sadly she had very ill manners she was talking that she has a problem with a certain youtuber
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and she was complaining of his ill manners and she goes i hate him yeah i said okay you hate him but
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you're you're you're you're the way you're treating the way she was talking she's mocking me
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etc i excused her yeah she has no evidence nothing it was just based on this is how she's not a
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special is she a specialist no has she got qualifications at theology at all so why is
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oh here's the thing though let's ali i don't understand why someone like dina tokyo yeah who
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i would have thought is quite an educated person yeah because i've heard that she's an educated
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person she she's an educated person she's a social influencer why is she sharing a blog or a vlog
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or whatever it may have been it's a blog isn't it because it's written i'm not sure if she did
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anything videographic on that yeah but why is she sharing that blog yeah with someone who's a
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non-specialist yeah non-theologian non-scholar unless you agree with it no no no obviously she
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agrees with me yeah totally that's that's no doubt she's taking it down now no no i would have thought
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that she would have consulted some kind of some kind of scholarly resources here and that's the
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thing man to be honest with you i'm going to be straightforward with you people like dina tokyo
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whose claim to fame was what was it like hijab tutorials and makeup and these things
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please ladies and gentlemen yeah and this goes for us as well everyone must know their lane yeah if
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someone comes out as a sport critic don't expect from that sport critic to be able to guide you in
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matters to do with religion or theology or philosophy or whatever yeah just because you have a following
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it doesn't mean you have to give your opinions on everything that's as simple as that and don't don't
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push your opinion especially if it's completely unjustified from a from a theological perspective
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on the people yeah we're not going to accept that and you know what you're making was haram
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and this is i'm very thankful that you brought that up because this is very thank you for bringing
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that up yeah this issue of istihlal is is what makes kufr because why is it kufr yeah so someone
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might ask you how why is it disbelief the quran it says in chapter number nine verse number 31
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about the jews and the christians yeah it says they took their priests and the rabbis as gods
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beside god now yeah adi ibn hatim who's one of the sahaba who became muslim he was exactly a christian
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before he came to him the prophet he said how am i doing this he goes christians are not actually
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taking their priests and their rabbis as god and jews are not taking their rabbis as god he said
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did they not make halal while allah make haram yes or did not allah make haram did they not make
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haram while allah made halal so this is called istihlal yeah basically when you know there's a
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hukum there's a ruling and then you go against that ruling even though the ruling is very very clear
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there is no room for interpretation in that particular ruling there are some rulings let's be frank that
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there is room for interpretation there is scope for interpretation that has to be done by a qualified
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person yeah no problem but here we're talking about some opinion that can never ever be had because
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there's no way the text can justify it yeah okay you've got one minute 40 seconds all right so let
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me just finish on by saying yeah this is why it's kofa we have to the thing is look i want to make one
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final point because one of the things that the article writer wrote she wrote that we through reason
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yeah through reason we we we can accept and reject laws basically is what she was saying this is by the
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way look people need to understand the limits of reason from a philosophical perspective yeah the the limits
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of reason are we use our reason to give certain people's authority for example i'll give you a
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very clear example we we use our reason to go to the doctor we then ask the doctor to help us
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understand what our problems are by giving them our for example our symptoms and then they give us
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prescriptions yeah so we use our reason to go to the doctor we don't use our reason to know what the
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doctor is going to prescribe for us yeah likewise we use our reason to arrive at islam yeah but we
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don't use our reason to dictate or to reject the laws of islam exactly because that is the equivalent
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of you saying i know more than the lawmaker and the prescribed thing the doctor gives you might not
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make sense to you there and then exactly but that just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't
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mean there is no wisdom behind it we say allah has a higher method because a doctor can make a
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mistake but the all knowledgeable one can't make a mistake okay let me finish off by saying this then
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i say look i think it's high time since since deena tokyo and her husband are starting to make
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religious arguments here and the elephant in the room seems to be conservative islam orthodox islam
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traditionalist islam scripturalist islam which we kind of you can say on a popular level represent
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i invite both deena tokyo and sid to a public conversation where we can flesh out these matters
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yeah talk about them publicly yeah and look if you don't want to have this conversation then that
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defies the very premise of reason because you're not happy you're not happy to get your um to your
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theological and philosophical arguments critiqued exactly we will talk we will talk you won't have
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a discussion you know the reason why when i was speaking to the sister who wrote this blog
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she's saying to me oh um are you i was just requesting i go sister you know you shouldn't
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put this up she goes are you religiously blackmailing me and i was talking to you well are you religious
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are you um blackmailing us with your post-colonial uh master's orders these are orders that have been
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given to you and now you're blackmailing us and saying no this is the best way of life i'm very happy you
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mentioned that the white the white man i'm not talking in general yeah his way of life is good
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this is what you're doing with with and a sister dina as well you're pushing that in our throats
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you're and you're blackmailing us and when we come with the religious guidance or advice we're
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religiously blackmailing exactly so they they would say is intellect intellectual kind of um terrorism
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that we're talking to them about yeah but you do that every day but here's the thing they don't
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realize a lot of these people like deena tokyo etc that they're pushing a narrative as well
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they're pushing as you mentioned correctly yeah they're pushing a european centric ideological
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narrative of post-enlightenment era and that is a narrative of feminism of because feminism is a
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western construct you've got 20 seconds and i've got to finish so what we're saying is that look i
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don't feel like these people here a lot of them they don't know a the theology be the philosophy
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a the theology of islam or be the philosophy of feminism liberalism etc so let's have that discussion
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but just to finish off i would say that just one word the quran says once you've made sense of the
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fact that god is one and that muhammad is the legislator of allah yeah then submit to the law
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that's it and lastly brothers and sisters anyone that's watching this if you think you're going to
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go and do a nikah with some dodgy imam on skype wherever if you're a sister if you're going to go
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and do that your nikah is not valid you're committing so please don't listen to people who are not qualified be
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me be anyone and inshallah go back to the people of knowledge as we always do may allah bless you
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guys from ghana before we finish off get that there's going to be link at the bottom we're here
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in ghana doing works let's use our platform to do good works we should not talk about these matters
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let's do that the link's going to be at the link below inshallah let's make things happen
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let's change people's lives in a good way assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh